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hello and thanks for being here. it's 10:00 eastern. this morning, news on multiple fronts in the special counsel probe into donald trump. nbc news confirms trump's attorneys met with the special counsel himself. as we learn another grand jury, this one in florida, will hear testimony this week, could a potential indictment be imminent? plus, two more for 2024. former governor chris christie jumping into the race today followed by former vp mike pence tomorrow. plus, some breaking news in ukraine, russia accused of targeting a critical dam, waters rising, hundreds of thousands in danger and a nuclear power plant in jeopardy. we'll go live to the region. later, royal drama. prince harry becoming the first royal to testify in court in more than 130 years. his testimony against the tabloids today in london.
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let's begin with new developments in special counsel investigation into former president donald trump. a grand jury in florida is now set to hear more testimony in this classified documents probe, it's unclear how these proceedings relate to the grand jury working in washington inspect as we're learning members of trump's legal team had a direct meeting yesterday with special counsel jack smith and other officials at the doj, this was all according to a person familiar with the matter and all of this marking a significant escalation in activity around this probe. let's bring in nbc news justice correspondent ken dilanian, chuck rosenberg. ken, tell us about this grand jury meeting in florida and what we know about the expected testimony? >> good morning, ana. we know a little about it.
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there could be a number of reasons for it, ranging from -- there was a witness who couldn't make it up to d.c., for convenience purposes they're taking the testimony in florida. they're bringing the whole case in the southern district of florida. if they did the latter they would have to read in all the testimony that's taken place in washington, d.c., they would have to have some fbi agent read transcripts to that grand jury in florida. it poses a bit of a logistical hurdle. we still believe there are things happening around this case, hearing testimony for a long time on this. this is halls and mirrors. it's a secret process. >> we do know the fbi found over 11,000 documents from the white house at mar-a-lago, this was in august when they did that search
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warrant, including more than a hundred containing classified markings. phil, your thoughts on this witness testimony in florida, at this stage in the investigation. >> i find this interesting from a political and legal perspective, from an intelligence perspective there's not a huge story here f the president had said last year for example that he accidentally had top-secret documents i think people in my place and the fbi would say that's fine, turn them over, as mike pence did, as president biden did, when documents were found in their house. the story here aren't the documents, but the story is telling federal prosecutors and investigators that you don't have them when you do. with fbi investigators nothing irritates them more than someone
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lying to them. >> i'm trying to understand, chuck, why there would be the grand jury in d.c. as well as a separate one in florida, why these different grand juries for a probe that you'd think trying to come together? >> as ken said, there are a couple of possible reasons, we don't know the actual reason it could be anything from the fact that there are separate crimes under investigation in florida, to allowing a witness to testify before that grand jury for his/her convenience. it's an unusual case, it's hard to say what the typical thing is. typically we use one grand jury in one place and if we bring charges we bring the charges in the place where the grand jury is sitting. i think this will be revealed. >> meantime, part of trump's legal team met with special counsel jack smith in
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washington, d.c., ken, this is part of your reporting. walk us through this meeting. >> i was there, so this trio of trump lawyers, two former federal prosecutors came in the building, they stayed for two hours, they left without commenting, we learned that special counsel jack smith was in the meeting, along with senior justice department career officials, absent from the meeting merrick garland and lisa demonaco. this meeting had all the appearances of a last-ditch appeal, we've seen this movie before, many times in federal investigations, where the lawyers unsatisfied with the reaction they're getting from the actual prosecutors investigating the case they try to go up the chain, go to the bosses at the justice department and complain about their conduct and appeal against the potential indictment against their client. no reason to believe that appeal
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reached any sympathetic ears at the justice department. >> chuck, that meeting yesterday follows a public request that we're hearing from trump's lawyers to try to mete over what they call prosecutorial misconduct. any evidence? >> no. if there was the appropriate place to bring that argument would be to a federal judge after indictment. and so ken's quite right. these types of meetings happen with some frequency. it's after charging decision has been made. it's not at all unusual, it's typical for the attorney general not to be present at a meeting like that, whether it involves a special counsel or not. i participated in many, many of these meetings when i was at the justice department and we listened. it's a courtesy meeting. it's rare for the department of
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justice to change their collective opinion. you can hear something in the presentation from the defense attorneys which makes you go back and look more critically at a piece of your case and tighten it up, so often, not always the government can benefit from one of these meetings simply by listening to what the weakness is in the case. >> the former president has been posting a whole bunch on truth social. it follows that meeting at the doj in which right after that he posted in all caps, quote, how can doj possibly charge me, who did nothing wrong, when no other presidents were charged, when joe biden won't be charged -- what do you make of that reaction, the timing after this meeting? >> i find it interesting from a legal and a political perspective from the legal piece, note the team and the
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president aren't saying he didn't do anything. they're talking about procedural issues. the evidence is there, you don't have to know anything about the intent. the documents are there. they say top secret. the fact the team and the president are saying i didn't do that. on the political side the barr's statements speaking in may showed that many in the republican conservative sort of group including those who advised the president aren't going to be with him this time. they might have been in the claims that the election wasn't properly conducted in 2020 but he's losing with them when it appears he's on the wrong side of national security. >> we'll see what happens. thank you, gentlemen. appreciate the conversation today. some breaking news out of ukraine, more than 1300 people have been evacuated by rescue
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workers after a major dam and power station in southern ukraine was destroyed. ukraine is blaming russia for the destruction, while russia accused ukraine of sabotaging the dam. we do know tens of thousands of people live within the flood zone. officials have warned water would reach the critical levels that could cause major flooding within hours. molly hunter is joining us now from kyiv. molly, what's the latest on the conditions near that dam? >> reporter: critical levels, these are low-lying villages next to this power station for water and agricultural. some new numbers, 24 settlements or villages have been flooded so far. president zelenskyy said 80 are
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at risk in these crucial hours. you mentioned 1300, police are saying as they rye to evacuate ukrainian civilians they are getting actively shelled. this morning, a major disaster unfolding in southern ukraine, drone video showing the river gushing through a critical dam and hydroelectric power plant. this video shot from the banks showing huge chunks of the dam destroyed. ukraine blames russia for blowing up the strategic dam overnight which is under russian control in the kherson region. president zelenskyy calling it a terrorist attack, while russian state media accuses ukraine with attacking the dam with no evidence. ukrainian civilians on the west bank and russian troops on the east. it's one of six dams on the dnipro river. the iaea confirms the power
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plant has adequate supply of water at least for now. >> the level of water which will help for a minimum one month. >> reporter: he estimates by tonight some 3,000 civilians will be without clean drinking water. your three biggest fears in the next 24 hours, what are they? >> fresh water supply and i would say power supply for people around dnipro. >> reporter: ukraine's hydropower company an explosion inside caused the destruction. the strategic fears surrounding this dam date back months. back in may "the new york times" reporting the water levels reached 30-year highs, back in october, president zelenskyy warning that russia had mined
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the dam and this morning, he says 80 settlements, that's tens of thousands of people are in the rapid flood zone. now, president zelensky has also called this a war crime but these are civilians who have survived months of russian occupation the area of kherson now faced with catastrophic flooding. >> thank you so much for bringing us this report. we're back in just 60 seconds. a stampede of new candidates joining the 2024 gop field. does a growing race help trump? the new clues emerging as officials investigate the private plane crash that caused fighter jets to scramble. also calls for justice after the fatal shooting of a florida mother, why the woman accused of shooting her has not been arrested. and holding court. prince harry is the first member of the royal family to appear as a witness in court in more than a century, what we're learning
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from the network america relies on. welcome back. the battle for the 2024 republican nomination is gaining new contenders this week, starting just hours from now, when former new jersey governor chris christie is expected to announce his bid in manchester, new hampshiring, this evening. meantime, former vice president mike pence has officially filed paperwork now ahead of his bid launching tomorrow. do either one of them stand a chance against their former boss, former ally, donald trump? steve kornacki, who and what do republican voters want? >> they still the candidate they put you. in 2016 and 2020 and that's
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donald trump. a monmouth poll taken a week ago, it was open ended. you tell us who do you want to be your candidate in 2024? donald trump leading the way at 43%. most notably that's a big gain for trump, this same poll asked this question back in december, he was trailing ron desantis in december, remember, republicans were coming off a rough midterm election, lot of people were pointing the finger at donald trump and his claims about the 2020 election. desantis was re-elected in a monstrous landslide in florida. donald trump has pulled far ahead. desantis a distant second. the man getting in today, chris christie, you don't even see his name on this list, he's not registering in the most recent poll that's significant because the republican national committee has announced its
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criteria for inclusion in its debates. you got to be at 1% in a couple polls. for christie that's his first challenge is to hit that 1% threshold in a couple of polls. that's one big question for christie. one thing christie and pence have in common, the same poll of republicans here, they both have the highest unfavorable score. pence, 35% of republicans view him unfavorably. look at the christie number here, just 27%. could christie still a have an impact on this race? i think the answer to that question is yes, one of the wild cards to keep an eye on if he makes that debate stage. remember this moment, the saturday night before the new hampshire primary in 2016, a critical moment for donald trump, he had just lost the iowa
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caucuses, marco rubio from florida was gaining in the polls in new hampshire, chris christie was going nowhere in the poll he turned his fire on marco rubio in that debate, it was a devastating attack that christie carried out on rubio in that debate. that certainly help elevate trump in new hampshire. he's the wild card. we haven't seen that. if christie could get on the debate stage it could be an interesting dynamic to watch. let's expand our conversation now, i want to bring in a couple of political insiders, christine todd whitman, co-chair of the forward party. and former white house press
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secretary robert gibbs. thank you both for being here. governor, you know former governor chris christie, you're familiar with his voters and supporters in your home state, your thoughts on christie jumping into the 2024 race? is he in it to win it or hurt trump in. >> he has nothing to lose by getting in it. he raises his profile nationally which is nowhere as you can see from that poll right now. he enjoys the battle and can certainly compete with trump. the problem for him is to get on the debate stage. he's got a record to run on, good and bad, people will look at that. but his numbers right now are not in a place i'd think it's going to be highly probable that he gets on the debate stage.
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he's done a lot of analysis and figures that it's worth his while to do this. i think with all the candidates in there, in fact they might make it easier for donald trump to win, of course getting on the debate stage, one thing donald trump absolutely commands is the internal political working of the national committee and the apparatus, he'll do everything he can to keep chris christie off the debate stage. >> christie's team has suggested he's planning to mix it up in the news cycle, he's facing on engaging trump. robert, trump hasn't been shied about how he feels about his former vice president and other republicans running for the nomination, how should democrats feel about these guys trying to take on trump in the primary? >> well, i think if you're a democrat or the biden campaign you got to sit back and watch, you got to see the dynamics of
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the primary, where they go, and then be nimble to react to what's aalmost assuredly going to be a race to the far right, you already see it now with ron desantis attacking trump from the right. mike pence and others are going to build coalitions in iowa and new hampshire that threaten donald trump. that debate stage are going to be policy issues that aren't shared by most of the countries. book bans and the like. if you're the democrats and the biden campaign you're just watching and you're responding to what seems to be and what we saw in 2022 to be outside of the main stream. >> to robert's point about this moving further and further to the right as we watch the primary race play out, governor, right now desantis is his closest competition, trump's closest and desantis is attacking trump's record on
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immigration, he's touting how he's sending national guards to the border. trying to portray trump weak on border security, can desantis out-you trump trump. >> i don't think so. he's made some very strange decisions i think as governor going after disney and he's going a bit too far on abortion, on book bans that i believe that's why you see his numbers have gone down, that even the most extreme of the republicans are getting uncomfortable with the kind of things they're seeing from him at this point. >> one republican who decided not to run is new hampshire chris sununu. let's listen to his thinking about this. >> i don't mind who gets into the field but given where the polls are right now, every candidate needs to understand the responsibility of getting out and getting out quickly if it's not working. if we do what we did in 2016 somebody wins this nomination
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with 35% of the party. >> it's donald trump. >> again, it's somebody who's in the past. >> governor whitman, you've broken away from the republican party as the co-chair of this new forward political party made up of republicans, democrats and independents. but do you agree that the more options voters have the better it is for trump's chances? >> i actually do and that's one of the reasons we're not focused at all on the presidential, we're build prg the ground up, our focus there are 5,000 elected offices across the country, 70% of those are uncontested. we think everybody should have a challenge and a choice and so we're focusing on those elections that make the most impact on your daily life, your mayor, your school board, your library commission and all we're asking and we'll support
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republicans, democrats independents as long as they agree to support the constitution, work across the aisle but most importantly to change the way to elect our candidates. that means open primaries and rank file. >> so, robert, you know, as this field expands also jumping into the 2024 race is political activist cornel west who's running for the people's party nomination a big name among progressive democrats. of course you probably remember what happened in 2016 when you had jill stein and gary johnson running some argued that hurt clinton. should president biden be worried about west sif phoning off votes from him? >> i think that the white house should be concerned about any
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legitimate third-party candidate that has ballot access in the most important states. whether it's somebody like cornel west who i don't think is going to find a huge following we know there's a party out there, the group, the no labels group that's looking to potentially run somebody, if they're in contested states pulling people away from voting for the democrat all that does is help the republican nominee and presumably donald trump, the key is, do they have ballot access? you can run for the nomination the question is whether or not your name is going to appear on this sort of ballot of seven, eight states that are truly important and will decide this race from an electoral college standpoint, i also think that the biden campaign will spend a lot of time, a lot of energy and most importantly a lot of money convincing voters that might see some appeal in cornel west
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understand, the likelihood he's going to be president is zero, if not zero and support joe biden and his re-election in order to get things done on the issues they care most about. >> robert gibbs and former governor christine todd whitman for joining us. new details about the plane crash that caused fighter jets to scramble. scramble. power e*trade's award-winning trading app makes trading easier. with its customizable options chain, easy-to-use tools and paper trading to help sharpen your skills, you can stay on top of the market from wherever you are. e*trade from morgan stanley. power e*trade's easy-to-use tools make complex trading less complicated. custom scans help you find new trading opportunities, while an earnings tool helps you plan your trades and stay on top of the market. e*trade from morgan stanley.
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never issued a mayday? tom costello has more. tom? >> reporter: both the ntsb and the faa say the pilot of that plane failed to respond for most of the plane's duration. nobody on the board radioed a mayday, lot of aviation experts suggesting that everyone onboard may have derived of lack of oxygen and what went wrong happened very early in the flight. it took merely four hours for investigators to hike through a dense forest where that private jet went down in virginia killing everyone on board. >> the wreckage is destroyed, meaning that it's no longer distinguishable as an aircraft, still there are several pieces that might be able to assist our fact-finding stage.
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>> reporter: her father john rumpel who owns the plane, she was a devoted mom, rumpel and his wife adopted her when she was 40 because she reminded them of their late daughter. investigators must now unravel the mystery, did the plane quickly lose oxygen in a similar decompression event killed payne stewart and five others in 1999. that has to be a leading investigative theory. >> when a person at ground level the pressure allows them to breathe. the higher you go the less pressure there is and so your lungs without that pressure you cannot breathe. >> reporter: lack of oxygen
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would lead to hypoxia. it may have happened soon after takeoff just 15 minutes into flight the pilot stopped responding to air traffic controllers. the plane continued north to long island before doing an u-turn heading back to tennessee. still failing to respond to controllers. six fighter jets were scrambled along the east coast. as the plane approached restrict td d.c. airspace, two f-16s were authorized to go supersonic. the fighter jets would see the private pilot was slumped over. ran out of fuel and crashed. the ntsb said the plane was not required to have any black boxes but that doesn't mean it didn't have any. the ntsb is going to look at
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whether avionics systems that will tell investigators what went wrong with this flight. turning now to capitol hill where a fight brewing between house republicans and the fbi has reached a new pitch. oversight chairman james comer said he'll start hearings on thursday to hold director christopher wray in contempt of congress, hasn't given them enough information about a document reportedly describing an allegation that president biden took a bribe while he was vice president. the fbi saying they've been cooperative. the bureau calling the escalation to a contempt vote unwarranted. nbc capitol hill correspondent ali vitali. a contempt vote is serious, what do we know about this document
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and is it surprising that republicans are targeting wray since after all he was appointed by trump? >> reporter: yeah, that's a good point, but we've seen republicans in part led by the former president continuing to cast dispersions over the doj and other law enforcement agencies, that's only escalated when we saw the fbi search the former president's mar-a-lago home for classified documents last summer and the head of the oversight committee james comer continue to push for more information into allegations about hunter biden and by proxy the president himself. what's important here, the document in question that could trigger this contempt vote later this week which is one that comer asked for last month and he was briefed on yesterday by fbi officials along with his democratic counterpart the ranking member on this committee jamie raskin, a tale of two briefings, both of them were in same way, they came away with
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wildly different versions of what was at hand here. comer saying this briefing made clear to him that this document was important and proved some kind of wrongdoing by the president. raskin didn't think this was part of any kind of problem. that's important for them going forward. what we're seeing now, comer start to say because he couldn't take this document with him, is why he's moving forward on contempt charges here. we just spoke with the speaker of the house, we'll move on the full floor vote on contempt as soon as it moves out of committee. we could see the full house move on next week. >> sorry for my mic being open. we had a little typo on the graphic. i didn't want to distract from what you were saying.
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>> all good. we're learning that the lawyers for gop megadonor have agreed to meet on his relationship with clarence thomas. >> reporter: continuing to push forward on concerns that they have about the supreme court's code of ethics or in the senate's mind lack thereof, we've seen the chairman of the judiciary committee durbin ask for more information from that megadonor. in part because of deals he had that were undisclosed with sitting supreme court justice clarence thomas, now crow's attorneys are responding to the judiciary committee saying they'll be in dialogue with them over this. they're saying there are some concerns about the senate's role here in governing these ethics reform, nevertheless, it's another step forward. >> ali, keep us posted.
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thank you so much. up next, prince harry becomes the first royal to testify in court in 130 years. his lawsuit against a british newspaper group and is it good or bad for the royal family? plus, we're live in france as protesters march against pension reform and even briefly occupy the 2024 summer olympics headquarters in paris. ics headquarters in paris. when e ulcerative colitis keeps flaring, put it in check with rinvoq, a once-daily pill. when uc got unpredictable, i got rapid symptom relief with rinvoq. and left bathroom urgency behind. check. when uc got in my way, i got lasting, steroid-free remission with rinvoq. check. and when my gastro saw damage, rinvoq helped visibly repair the colon lining. check. rapid symptom relief. lasting, steroid-free remission. and a chance to visibly repair the colon lining. check. check. and check. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tb. serious infections and blood clots, some fatal;
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this morning, prince harry becoming the first british royal to testify in court many more than a century. there he is walking into court this morning and harry is among a group of more than 100 people suing the mir more newspaper group accusing them of phone hacking and using other illegal methods to get stories. see if we can get a glimpse of him getting out of the car, there he is.
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joining us is megafitzgerald. good to have you here. so, harry took the witness stand, megan, what did he say today? >> reporter: ana, it's truly incredible. to answer your question, i mean, he's been pushing back on the attorney that's cross examining him, how does he know that the information in the articles that are in question here were obtained unlawfully, he pushes it back on the attorney saying the question for the journalist who wrote it. what we're seeing is really extraordinary. the fact that, the mantra of the royal family, never complain, never explain. the morning when prince harry was sworn in he was referred as your royal highness.
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this morning, testimony in a london court, the first member of british royal family to appear as a witness in court. for the prince it's personal, he's one of four celebrities taking on mirror group newspaper one of several tabloid media outlets that he and his wife megan accuse of invading their privacy. harry telling the court these articles were incredibly invasive. harry has expressed outrage of growing up in a media spotlight where nothing was out of bounds. something he spoke about in his netflix docu-series. >> no one knows the full truth. we know the full truth. >> reporter: the prince's attorney alleging that the intrusion by mirror journalists sowed the seeds of discord between prince harry and his brother. harry's mother princess diana
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was also a mirror group target, alleging her phone had also been hacked in the '90s. but legal victory is far from certain in this case. many royal watchers believe harry is taking a huge gamble sitting through a tough cross-examination, today getting frustrated when pressed by the opposing lawyer, but it's a risk he's willing to take in a quest to change the media landscape. >> reporter: ana the judge confirmed for us today that prince harry will continue testifying until the end of the day and pick up tomorrow morning first thing. >> megan, thank you for that reporting. the fight against the press is something that harry takes in a very personal way, he's talked
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about his struggles after his mother's death, how it's impacted his marriage, here are some of the specific allegations he's laid out in this case, the mirror hacked his phones, intercepted voicemails, used private investigators to use unlawful means to track himself, his wife megan and associates for different stories, he seems to want this public fight. >> yes, this is something that he's chosen, this is the first time that a member of the royal family has been in a court for a hundred years. the first time that a member of a royal family has been cross-examined ever. it's something that he's chosen. it's deeply personable. they relate to his mother being in tears when she visited him on his 12th birthday, 1996. this is about justice for his mother but it's also aimed
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particularly at the mirror group and the mirror group's former editor is piers morgan who's had it in for megan markle. >> the last time a member of the royal family testified in court, 1881, he testified as a witness in a slander case that centered on a card game gone wrong. very vastly different from the type of content we're talking about in this particular case. more than 130 years ago. why is what -- >> what's so interesting. >> -- to provide testimony in. >> exactly, so unusual. it's unusual because they keep silent. they keep their side of the story to themselves. the difference between the last time a royal was in court and now is that then the press was
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really clamped down on, there was no way a scandal could really get out. it's the opposite now, it feels this sense of harry being in this kind of mission that he wants to make the press accountable. here he's once again putting himself on the stand to be grilled, to be cross-examined and not doing a terribly good job up against a whip smart attorney. he's doing it to defend his privacy, but what he is doing is opening himself up again. but time will tell whether it pays off or not. >> thank you so much for discussing this. i appreciate your insights and your perspective. big news in the world of golf this morning the pga tour and liv just announced that they
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let's take you to florida now. there are growing calls for the arrest of a woman accused of shooting and killing her name in front of her children. owens children were playing near their home when an unidentified white woman began yelling at them to get them off of her property, reportedly calling them racial slurs. when her mom, owens, later went to speak to that woman, their neighbor, that woman allegedly shot her through the door and she died from her injuries. the neighbor has not been arrested. our lindsey reiser is following this for us. this is so sad. the women's children were watching when the mom was shot. the lawyer representing the family, benjamin crump has called it an unjustified
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shooting. what happened. >> we know what ben crump led up to this, and he describes the neighbor as a 58-year-old white woman and the kids leave behind a tablet, and she grabs it. one of the kids goes to her house to try and retrieve it, and that's when according to ben crump she throws something at or toward them and hits one of the kids and they say it was a pair of skates. the mother goes to talk to the neighbor and that's when the shooter -- now we know that's the shooter, and she is telling the police her version of events, it's a heated exchange and threats were made and owens' mother said that door never hoped and she shot through the door killing her. the woman has not been arrested
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or charged with anything, and the 9-year-old son next to her, and two of the four kids may have witnessed this. and owens friends and family say she was a cheer mom, and this was unjustified. >> she wanted to know why this happened. she knocked on susan's door. a closed, locked door. the door never opened. my daughter, my grandchildren's mother was shot and killed with her 9-year-old son standing next to her. she had no weapon. she posed no imminent threat to anybody. >> police say there was an
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right now protesters are turning out across france for a 14th day of national protests against the government's plans to raise the retirement age from 62 to 64. some 52 marches and rallies are planned across the country with
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protesters briefly occupying the summer olympics headquarters. joining us from paris is matt bradley. we see the people behind you, and this measure to raise the retirement age is set to go into effect. >> reporter: the protesters are waiting for thursday and that's when when they expect the new legislation and they hope that will reverse a decision already made and set into law. those french people that reached 62 years of age will have to work another two years, to 64, before they can qualify before a full government pension, but the protests persists and that's because they hope they will be able to reverse that law, and they are putting macron and the government in their crosshairs. these protesters represent a wide swath of leftist groups,
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political parties and also trade unions. if you look here, each of these balloons here, each of these speakers and parties and all of these individual groups are represented here and they are some of the most important trade unions in france, a country where trade unions are still extremely powerful, and they are still bringing out the numbers on the street. there's a lot of hope here with this exuberant party atmosphere that the reversal will happen. >> thank you for your reporting. that will do it for us today. thank you for joining us. i will see you back here tomorrow, same time, same place. until then, i'm reporting from new york, ana krau

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