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chief of staff recently, chief of staff to the defense secretary of the united states, if you had been the director of trade policy at the white house, again, recently, if you held that job -- if you had been national security adviser to the president of the united states, and recently, not in some past generation, but just within the past few years -- if you had been the chairman of the intelligence committee in the u.s. house of representatives, again, not a long time ago, but recently -- if you had been the attorney general of the united states, recently -- if you had had any of those jobs in the very recent past, you think that you kind of be a hot ticket, right? you think that you have options, you'd be moving in impressive circles, you know, maybe not for the whole rest of your life, the sort of impact of that high fluting job you have would eventually wear off. but at least while you are still only recently out of that

very impressive, very high-profile, very high and government job, you think you can kind of write your own ticket. and you think he could be moving in a kind of rarefied air. you would think -- alas, this week, all of those people i just mentioned, really, the guy who was attorney general of the united states, and that guy who was at the grand chief of staff, and the national security adviser, and the white house trained chief officer, all these guys, with these very high fluting jobs from the last republican administration, this week, all of them are speaking at the same event in miami. and event at a hotel owned by the former president. the event will include all those trump administration officials, as well as the former president's adults on, eric, the blond one, and his daughter in law, plus a whole lot of trump administration folks. and they will all be speaking at that same event alongside -- i will interrupt myself here

for a moment -- if you don't particularly here is something that is rabidly antisemitic, or if you are watching with your kids and you don't want them to have something like that, this is your chance to mute me for a moment, okay? i'll give you a chance to do that. okay. there it is. >> if you look what happened at the attacks of 9-1-1, again, all coming out of the same group of people that has done a very good job at hiding under the religion of judaism. they used judaism as a cover for what they're really doing. these people are so, so elusive and slippery and cunning, and capable. >> i am sure they helped engineer the takedown of hitler. things that i see, it just makes me shake my head, after what they programed us. >> this evil cabal has been causing all of the chaos on the planet. people are gonna learn a lot about world war ii and hitler

and the nazis. they're gonna learn about hitler, who was actually fighting the same people that were trying to take down today. >> hitler was fighting the same people that we are trying to take down today, the jews, the evil cabal, the jews hooded 9/11 and all the rest -- i can't believe they're going ahead with it. media matters, a watchdog and advocacy group, they've been reporting on this since february to see. we started reporting on it in march this year. so it's not the thing they could do this without people noticing. but apparently, they're going ahead with it. this week, at the trump hotel in miami it's gonna host an event that features a lots of trump administration officials and trump family relatives. and also, this guy, that guy who just heard, who says hitler was fighting the good fight, the same fight that we are all fighting now. in addition to everything you just heard him say, he also blames jewish people for all the presidential assassinations.

not just, like, jfk -- yes, he blames them for killing jfk. but all the way back, all the way back to lincoln. lincoln, he says, killed by the jews. also william mckinley, okay. >> they assassinate anybody who threatens their power. it doesn't matter if you are a u.s. president. they did it to mckinley. they did it to lincoln. people think it was john wilkes booth. this was a rothschild operation. >> that is who's gonna be speaking this week at the trump property, in miami. he speaks right before trump's acting attorney general of the united states, the ball guy there on the left. right before you get his remarks, you'll get remarks from the guy who says jews killed lincoln. and hitler had all the right enemies, and we have to finish the job for him. right before the second day of the conference, or the other day of the conference, right before laura trump, the former president's daughter-in-law

speaks, and also peter navarro, who is the white house trait chief, right? before they speak. the attendees at that event are gonna be treated to a speech by this other guy who says that the holocaust never happened, and it's actually the covid vaccine that killed way more people than the so-called holocaust. >> how many people are getting numb -- that the whole people being killed by the jab then were killed in the holocaust. >> more people killed by the jab men were killed in the holocaust. he's also a featured speaker at the trump hotel in miami this week. and lest you think he's just thinking hyperbolic about the covid vaccine there in a joking way, the way some of these people want to do, as i mentioned, media matters has been reporting on this planned event, and these featured speakers for months now leading up to this event. and they actually went through the eye burning trouble of looking at what else these featured speakers at the trump hotel are bringing to the table for this events.

and, yeah, i don't think he was being hyperbolic in his holocaust references there. this is what his self proclaimed official social media accounts are posting online. yes, those are stars of david on the foreheads. you get the point. also this one, with the jews as the puppets controlling the government in the media. and here, this is subtle. here he is posting hitler speeches, literally hitler speeches, explaining about how excited he is to have this footage of hitler, warning us about the jews. he has been hired as a featured speaker for the big trump hotel event in miami this week, alongside all of those trump family members and trump senior officials, and alongside a guy who says the jews did 9/11. the former president's adult son eric has been traveling the country, in particular, all -- a lot of trump family members

and trump administration officials had been part of this thing. but eric trump in particular has been traveling the country doing versions of this road show with these rabbit antisemites. and this week, that road show arrives at the trump family hotel at the doral hotel, on friday and saturday this week. this past friday, just three days ago, the former president himself made a surprise video appearance in budapest, hungary, at a cpac event. you remember the back? the conservative political action conference? they just held another cpac event in hungary because cpac now regularly wants to kiss the ring of the authoritarian right-wing leader of hungary, a man named viktor orban. history is great, right? the first cpac event with viktor orban was just august of last year. and that was an amazing thing, because orban last july i just given a speech where he railed

against reese mixing. he said, there should be no race mixing. and in his hungary, there would be no more race mixing. his anti misogynation speech was so alarming that one of his own top advisers resigned from the hungarian government saying, quote, the speech you delivered is a purely nazi taxed worthy of joseph garbles. orban did not apologize. he gave that speech in july. and then, in august, cpac invited him to speak to u.s. conservatives in dallas. they were ecstatic to give him a big standing ovation. and, now, cpac holds events in hungary every year, apparently, to continue to honor him. so, trump, just three days ago, spoke at the viktor orban cpac event on friday. and this friday, he will host the hitler was right guys at his hotel.

tonight, nbc news is verifying some of what are basically the worst fears about the apparent motivation behind the gun massacre that happened this weekend in allen, texas. we're also learning the identities of some of those who were killed on saturday, these two beautiful little girls, second grade and fourth grade, they were both killed on saturday in allen, texas. this family, the mother and the father were killed, and their three year old son was killed with him. they're six year old son survived alone. this young woman, 26 years old. she's an engineer. she was killed. this young man, 23 years old. it was working there as a security guard. he was killed. and there is so much that is disgusting and unsettling about these latest killings, including sort of what they

connect to. you might remember it was a year ago this week that a gun that motivated by white supremacist, racist ideology went to buffalo. he went to a supermarket in a black neighborhood and buffalo, and killed ten african americans in that market. that was a year ago this week. that killer claimed he did that, he massacred all those people in that supermarket. he said he did it because of the great replacement theory, which we've been hearing all about on the fox news channel. he said he did it because of the great replacement theory and because of white genocide, which you can hear all about on right-wing talk radio. he killed ten people and injured even more people than that. he got, in february of this year, he was sentenced to 11 life sentences. that buffalo attack, again, was a year ago this week. also, the connection to allen, texas. allen allen, texas is where this latest massacre was this weekend. allen, texas is where the

shooter was living from the el paso massacre. allen, texas is where the guy started his road trip to that walmart in el paso in 2019, where he shot and killed 23 people. almost all of whom were latino. again, the killer there, ranting that he did it because of the great replacement theory, popularized on the fox news channel in primetime. well, now, today, in allen, texas, we are learning more about the apparent motive in killing all these people this weekend. it is not a subtle thing. the gunman is believed to have recently posted this photo online. this picture and others like it appear to be him, appear to be pictures of himself from a couple of weeks ago. you see some of his nice fresh tattoos there. nbc also reports that he had along social media record online that included grants against jews, against women, against racial minority.

nbc news also reporting that he posted a bunch of stuff online from white supremacist influencers, including the one who recently was apparently invited to mar-a-lago, to dine with the former president at his south florida home. there have also been reports that the gunman from allen, texas this weekend, he had a patch, that was on the tactical vest he was wearing when he carried out the shooting, a batch that had the initials, rwds, on it. it looks like this one. here's a path of a similar kind shown on the tactical vest of the man who was the leader of the proud boys, a pro trump right wing paramilitary group. until not that long ago, that proud boys leader had merch store that sold dispatch, rwds, stands for right wing death squad. again, that patch was apparently on that tactical vest of the color in texas this weekend. they sold hoodies with that

acronym on them. and also, these patches, you can see various proud boys showing off that patch, showing off that acronym that sort of shows the force in the streets, including in washington, d.c., right before january 6th. four leaders of the proud boys, that pro trump paramilitary group, we're of course convicted of seditious conspiracy at the end of last week for the roles in the january 6th attack on congress. one of those proud boys defendants, who was just convicted of sedition, he had not just a patch of the right-wing death squad acronym, like the allen, texas shooter had, he actually had the rwds right wing death squad tattoo on his arm. as you can see here. today, also in federal court in washington, d.c., we got a fairly heavy sentence handed down against yet another participant in the january 6th attack. he's 41 years old. he's a former petty officer,

first class and the u.s. navy. disturbingly, he carried top secret and compartmented information security clearances. he was already convicted and sentenced to three years in federal prison, on charges related to him possessing illegal weapons, unregistered silencers. that was just a few months ago. today, he got an additional four years on his sentence, for his participation in the january 6th attack. and in an fbi affidavit that prosecutors submitted to the court in support of their case, that affidavit spells out his communications with fbi confidential informants, his coworkers, and others. him, spelling out and explaining to people why he was at the capitol on january six with, he says, the proud boys. that affidavit also explains this man's very clear world view for what exactly was doing at that day, what he thought he was there to accomplish. it's from that fbi affidavit, quote, mr. speed stormed to the capitol on january 6th, 2021 to

disrupt the peaceful transfer of power to president biden, whom he believed rose to power through election fraud, and was, quote, operated by the jews. mr. speed was willing to act corruptly to achieve his goal and stop the certification in part because he felt so passionately that he needed to defend himself and the united states against the countries jews. he did not want the person he saw as a puppet officer jews to take power. mr. speed also thought that more violence was needed on january 6th to pressure congress to stop the certification. but that violence did not materialize because jews had lulled americans into support for non violence. mister speed's deeply held antisemitism was a core part of his motive on january six. he told our undercover informant that he believed that america, a christian country, was locked in a battle with the jews. and so, that's why he was there, with the proud boys.

and their right wing death squad patches. that's why he was there with them to attack the capitol, to stand up trump in power, because that was his guy, standing up for white christian america, standing up against the jews. that's all today. that's all this week. that's all at once. of course, i even mentioned, of course, all of this is happening while we are in the middle of the trial of the white power, great replacement theory, mass murder from the tree of life synagogue in pittsburgh. that trial is ongoing right now. and, of course, all of these things have the same smell, right? they don't just happen to be connected in the news right now. they're connected. the buffalo white supremacist mass murder, the el paso white supremacist mass murder, the pittsburgh synagogue white supremacist mass murder, now it appears the allen, texas white

supremacist mass murder. and in the nation recoiling and ashamed, and disgusted, there's also these apparent connections, right? between this bleeding, ragged right-wing mass violence, and the bleeding ragged right-wing edge of politics. the most mainstream possible electoral republican politics. the most mainstream, most successful right-wing media as well. but also, this former president and his family, and his former officials, and the way he's currently running for president again. they are inviting literal -- hitler was right -- outspoken antisemites, putting stars of david, jewish stars on the heads of their enemies, telling people that's who we need to be going after, just the way

hitler -- they're inviting people like that to their events, with the highest ranking for formal officials of the government. and it's all happening while that former president is running for president again. and it's happening amid this unrelenting wave of white supremacist motivated mass murder. are those two things separate? are those two things just very disturbing parallel tracks that will never meet, and that have never met? or is one of these things and anchor for the other? does the fact that both of these things are happening once in our country, frankly, accelerate them both? accelerate the racial radicalism and antisemitism as a political tool. and also, just accelerate the violence in this country. do they work together? and if so, how? and if they do work together, how do we stop it. joining us now is someone who is devoted her professional career to the study of justice

problems. she is kathleen belew. she's associate professor of history at northwestern university. she's author of the seminal book, bring the war home: the white power movement and paramilitary america. professor kathleen belew, i really appreciate you making the time with us tonight. thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> so, you can probably tell from that, right? from that wind up that i am disturbed -- i am unnerved, at least, by these two parallel tracks, by what we see happening with incredible racial and anti-semitic radicalism, adjacent to very mainstream electoral politics, and to the kind of mass violence that we are seeing. as somebody who's an expert and studies these matters, should we see these things as paulo, or are they lines that are in a second? >> i don't think we can anyone say that this is a jason. i think that at least, the republican party and so far as

it is represented by donald trump has fully embraced many of these elements. the fact that this kind of speech is not only sort of weaved through, but invited in. and we can see that in the invitation of people like nick fuentes to dinner at mar-a-lago, the invitation of holocaust denial into the main, sort of, welcome of the candidate. and the one that was the most concerning for me, as someone who studies this kind of violence, was the staging of, and the content of that press conference, announcing that the kickoff of this campaign in waco, texas. kickoff ofnow, many people knowe branch davidians siege in waco as part of a general anti government instability. but to people in the far-right, to people in neo-nazi groups, white power groups, militant right groups, it is a call directly to the chain of events

that leads to the oklahoma city bombing, a major act of mass casualty domestic terrorism. it is a direct call to that kind of violence. it's not just about speech. it's direct and bloody. and it has real tolls, like we see in allen, el paso, and buffalo, and in pittsburgh. and as more and more of these communities are impacted, that toll just grows and grows. >> what is the effect -- or what can we learn at least from history or from previous sort of contention with white power movements, as you documented it? what can we expect to be the effect of the justice department prosecuting seditious conspiracy charges against groups like the proud boys and the oath keepers. i was also struck by reading the prosecutions court filings, reading those fbi affidavits, that 41-year-old man who was sentenced today, who they went

out of their way to make sure that it was on the record, and part of the description for why he was sentenced the way he was, that he was motivated by antisemitism, and the fact of the idea of the war between christians and jews was driving his actions. how does the justice department, the legal system, and their intervention in this -- how does that reflect the future behavior of movements like this? >> so, there's two things to consider. one is what it responsible and socially appropriate response to act to violence that target in many ways the very nature of what it is to be an american? and i mean, they target vulnerable communities. they target people of color. they target jewish communities. a target woman. they target trans, story hour at the library, it goes on, and on, and on like this. they are also targeting institutions and elections, and the sanctity of state houses. it goes on and on like this.

there has to be a real legal outcome, when these things happen. and january 6th was such a stunning event, it is absolutely appropriate to seek seditious conspiracy charges and to get those convictions. however, the flipside is, the few people that are facing those charges are only one very small, and usually public facing part of a groundswell that is broad and energized and incredibly angry, a groundswell that is motivated by the idea that they are under attack. and we see that, for instance, in their embrace of people who might not have been welcome in this movement just a few years ago. the broader base of people is a function of that sense of emergency. when that is all in place, a decisive conviction will also have blowback effects. and other acts of violence

coming along in its wake >> what kathleen, i wanted to ask you one last question about this young man, who is the apparent shooter from allen, texas, he appears to be a latino. and there's been a lot of discussion about the fact that he is identifying himself as per reporting, essentially with the nazi movement, and then neo-nazi movement, and advancing white supremacist and antisemitic views, as a man who appears to be latino himself, how do you describe that as a dynamic here, somebody who studied the white power movement? >> so, i think this is relatively new, and it is critically important to understand, because this claim to a neo-nazi set of ideas by someone who might be classified as latino in many ways settings is true, not just for the allen gunman, but for many other people, including other people in the proud boys, and we don't know yet whether the gunman was part of proud boys.

certainly, he was wearing patches that as you mentioned, were sold by proud boys. but there was a direct linkage between something like right wing death squad, and the slogan that comes with it, which is pinochet was right to latin american ideas about whiteness. so, pinochet is the infamous argentinian dictator who dealt with his political enemies, often, many of the enemies were characterized as racial others, by simply throwing them out of helicopters over the ocean. the proud boys were wearing shorts that set pinochet was right. right wing death squad, way back, even before the last round of presidential debates, long before january six. so, these things were implicated. and the other thing to understand -- and this has a long history. it's complex. although it here just quickly. people can read more about this. ideas about whiteness and what counts as white and who might be under the umbrella of being included in nazism are very,

very different from country to country. one of the striking things in the allen, texas shooter's purported social media are images of people who in the united states would present as latino, wearing nazi paraphernalia, not just shooters, groups and groups of people, wearing nazi uniform, wearing nazi symbols, and really taking on this ideology is their own. latin america, there's often a different racial hierarchy. whiteness has to do with a larger amount of spanish heritage, and a smaller amount of indigenous or african heritage. and all of these ideas are socially constructed. so, this is difficult. but the outcome is not difficult to understand. the outcome is anti-american targeted violence at communities of color, jewish communities, other sort of racial enemy communities, and institutions of democratic governance.

>> kathleen belew, associate professor of history northwestern university. kathleen, thank you for your time and your expertise tonight. i appreciate you being here. >> thank you for having me, rachel. >> pinochet is chilean, not argentinian, slip of the tongue there. but other than that, we'll be right back. stay with us. ay with us keep being you... and ask your healthcare provider about the number one prescribed h-i-v treatment, biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for h-i-v in many people whether you're 18 or 80. with one small pill, biktarvy fights h-i-v to help you get to undetectable—and stay there whether you're just starting or replacing your current treatment. research shows that taking h-i-v treatment as prescribed and getting to and staying undetectable prevents transmitting h-i-v through sex. serious side effects can occur, including kidney problems and kidney failure. rare, life-threatening side effects include a buildup of lactic acid and liver problems. do not take biktarvy if you take dofetilide or rifampin. tell your healthcare provider about all the medicines and supplements you take, if you are pregnant or breastfeeding, or if you have kidney or liver problems, including hepatitis.

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who have been adjudicated, mentally ill, to get access to firearms. that was the first priority with the new republican congress and the new republican president. that's one way to address the mental health crisis. given that history, it is rich to hear any republican elected official parrot this line about, after a mass shooting, oh, we're gonna tackle the mental health crisis. it is particularly rich coming from texas governor greg abbott. april last year, governor abbott took a look at the budget of the state agency in texas that specifically tasked with overseeing mental health services in that state. last april, governor abbott slashed their budget by more than $200 million. less than a month later, when a gunman killed 18 boys and girls and two teachers in an elementary school in uvalde, texas. governor abbott attributed that gun massacre in uvalde to the mental health challenge. he said, as a reaction to the

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this has been a busy day in this part of the news. you will see what i mean here. today, the judge overseeing the hush money criminal case in new york city against donald trump has now banned the former president from posting any evidence from the trial on social media. the judge's new order today also limits trump to viewing any sensitive evidence in the trial, only in the presence of his lawyers. he's not allowed to look at it alone. he must have chaperones. meanwhile, in the state of georgia, where fulton county prosecutor fani willis has been considering potential criminal charges, relating to trump's efforts to overturn the results of the last election, where fani willis has told law enforcement in georgia to be ready for, quote, significant public reaction to her anticipated future actions in the case. in georgia, they're republican governor of that state has now signed into law a bill that would allow republican

legislators in georgia, effectively, to remove prosecutors who take actions they don't like. republican governor brian kemp signed that bill on friday. legislators could start removing it was to remove prosecutors as soon as october this year. and, like i said, busy day all in this one sector of the news, this afternoon, writer and journalist e. jean carroll today left the manhattan federal courthouse to applause and cheers, after closing arguments in her civil lawsuit against the former president. miss carroll says trump raped her in new york city in the mid 90s. she says he then defamed her by calling her accusation, a hoax, and ally. during this two weeks civil trial, e. jean carroll testified on her own behalf. she said at the outset, simply, quote, i'm here because donald trump raped me. and when i wrote about it, he said it didn't happen. he lied and shattered my reputation, and i'm here to try and get my life back. in the end, trump himself chose

not to take the witness stand to rebut her, despite telling reporters in ireland last week that he would come to new york to confront her in the courtroom, he did no such thing. that means the only trump comments the jury would have seen throughout this entire trial is the video from his deposition in the case, which lawyers for miss carroll plate during closing arguments today. at one point, and the questioning, the former president mistook a photo of e. jean carroll for his ex-wife, marla maples. this, despite the fact that trump has staked his effective defense in his case, on the idea that e. jean carroll was not his time, his time, he thought that she looked enough like his wife, that he mistook the two of them in a photo. when attorney for miss e. jean carroll told the jury today, quote, he knows what he did. he knows that he sexually assaulted e. jean carroll. again, closing arguments wrapped today. the case will now go to the jury. they will begin their deliberations tomorrow morning. joining us now is my friend

lisa rubin, msnbc legal analyst, longtime colleague on this show. she's been covering the e. jean carroll civil suit. lisa, thanks for being here. it's nice to see you under the light instead of just in the office. >> it's weird, but good. yeah, it's weird but wonderful. >> what exactly is the jury going to decide tomorrow? they're going to be instructed by the judge, it's a civil case. >> that's right. >> they're being to -- their asked not to find guilty or innocent, but liable to earn liability. >> that's right, and they're going to be asked if trump was liable to damages he's liable for, compensating her for her losses, and also punitive damages. did he do something so egregious here that it's worth going above and beyond what she's lost, to send a message to him, and two others who might be thinking about this kind of behavior. >> bottom line, and the cold light of day, what is at stake here for trump, a finding by a jury of liability and some money. in terms of the amount of money,

i don't know what counts as a meaningful amount of money for trump. it's very hard for me to understand his financial circumstances. as, has been there a thing that happened in the course of the trial, that could give you the potential range of what it might be. >> yes and no. so, if carols lawyers presented a damages expert solely on reputational damages, the woman was a professor in marketing social media who said, then we pair campaign for reputation here would cost somewhere between 350,002 point $7 million. but that doesn't include the damage to e. jean carroll emotionally. and today, in closing, her lawyers talked about the loss of companionship in her life because of her trauma, she has engaged and avoided behavior. she doesn't banter. she just closes down emotionally. they compared her to a great closing of bodega, it is not capable of sustaining a relationship with a man, and therefore, they should consider that in damages as well.

>> the way that these cases were closed, well, it's not the prosecution and the defense, but that's effectively the way it works. i felt like there was some suspense, really, until late in the day yesterday, as to whether or not that was going to be an additional witness, whether or not trump was going to turn up. but it seemed to you that thick lace closed today, that trump's own attorneys basically had two plans, one for if he showed up, and one if he didn't. but they closed, they had to, because they mounted no effective defense. >> i think they never expected him to comment. i actually think they didn't want him to come. joe tacopina is closing today reiterated so many of the same things we saw from him in the opening. and one of those themes was, we don't have to mount a defense, because how do you prove a negative. this never happened. he said it never happened. i am even going to show you excerpts from his deposition where he says emphatically this never happened. and therefore, we're not putting on the defense, our sole defense is going to be by cross examining the witnesses, because we can't prove that something didn't happen didn't

happen. >> so, our sole defense is his assertion that it didn't happen, ignore this, whatever evidence the other side provided. >> and close all the evidence provided by the other side. >> do you think that this wasn't additionally traumatizing event for e. jean carroll, having been there in the courthouse this week? i mean, it's an active remark of bravery to bring this case, for accusations are accurate. was this case as painful as it seemed from the outside? >> look, i'm not a psychologist, right? and i don't have any degrees that would allow me to say whether this woman is telling the truth, but i believe that her story was true for her. you know, the emotion, and the intensity that she experienced all throughout the trial, including from the very opening, when she turned around and looked joe tacopina directly in the face, as if to say to him, how dare you say this about me while i'm sitting in this courtroom? it was profoundly affecting. and to see her break down, even today after the closing arguments were over, her lawyer, robbie catlin, a very emotional moment, between the two of them,

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