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another possible engine fire, this one on the runway just before takeoff in charlotte. passengers safely deplaned back at the gate, and the exact cause is still under investigation, but aviation experts stress these two unrelated incidents should not worry travelers >> the majority of the commercial flights have two or more engines, and when you think of the few relatively few failures, it's an amazingly safe system. >> reporter: tom costello, nbc news we have a lot to cover in our second hour of "chris jansing reports. let's get right to it. ♪ at this hour, get out, why russia is now forcibly evacuating its citizens from occupied areas in southern ukraine. that's according to officials living there we'll have a live report from kyiv plus, thirsting for violence, that's how prosecutors
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described the proud boys on january 6th in their closing argument to jurors today former minnesota police officer kim potter now out of prison after serving time for the de deadly shooting of dawunte wright any minute now we're expecting to hear from pentagon officials after that high risk evacuation of the u.s. embassy in sudan what's left for the 16,000 americans still stranded inside that war-torn country. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments, and we start with the beginning of the end for the historic trial against five former proud boys members in washington, d.c., in connection with the attack on the capitol ryan reilly is outside the courthouse where closing arguments are underway ryan, take us inside that courtroom. what are both sides leaving jurors with? >> that's right, so the government spend the morning laying out the case for how the proud boys sort of formed after
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that -- or how this plan rather sort of formed, starting -- they started off their case immediately after donald trump made his infamous comments referencing the proud boys telling them to stand back and stand by in the heat of that 2020 campaign. then they take us after the election when there was a lot -- when a lot of this rhetoric about the stolen election was convincing the proud boys and millions of other americans about the false claims about the 2020 election. fast forward to december 19th when donald trump sent that we'll be wild tweet, and that's really when the crux of this conspiracy really comes together that's when there's a chat that's formed within the proud boys that's all about january 6th and what they're going to do on january 6th and the prosecutors alleged here that there was a plot to stop the peaceful transfer of power through any means necessary. so you have these five defendants who now will get their chance to make their case to the jury, but you know, the government had a pretty strong case to put together over these
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past, you know, three months now. this case originally began with opening arguments in january they had a little bit of tricks uptheir sleeve last week some of the online sleuths revealed new video evidence that showed one of these defendants, zachary real poin pointing what appeared to be pepper spray at officers that was something the fbi missed over their two-year course of investigation. online sleuths found that during the course of this trial that was something at the very last minute they were able to bring up, show on the stand, and the defendant zack real claimed that he could not recallwhethe or not he used pepper spray that day, not a definitive no for someone who's been very certain about a lot of his answers we'll see what the jury makes of that reasoning once they actually begin to take up this case after we see closing arguments for the rest of today, probably into tomorrow, and then the jury ultimately will likely get this case sometime on tuesday. >> ryan reilly, thank you so much appreciate it. now to the early morning release of former minnesota
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police officer kim potter, who shot and killed daunte wright back in 2021 she says she mistook her gun for a taser. nbc's jesse kirsch has been following this for us. jesse, what more do we know about kim potter's release it was 4:00 a.m. >> reporter: 4:00 a.m. local time, chris, 5:00 a.m. eastern we didn't know about this until after the fact, at least in part because officials were trying to preserve security both for potter and for everyone else at the prison facility. obviously this is a high profile case, and officials say that there was concern about threats against her and that there were concerns based on comments, threatening comments made about potter as well as concern about violent protests possibly unfolding outside the prison we haven't heard anything about that actually coming to fruition that was part of the secrecy around when exactly she would be released we did know it would come today at some point. that was the expectation we weren't given the specifics until after the fact we're told according to the state of minnesota that she will
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be going to minnesota to serve what's called supervised release. so the way it works in minnesota is you serve two-thirds of your prison sentence behind bars. the last third is under supervised release there's no parole board in the state of minnesota, officials say there's no credit for good behavior, so you're not getting out early off of good behavior or anything like that. so you serve two-thirds of your sentence she had been sentenced to two years. that is far less than what prosecutors were asking for. they were asking for around seven years, and the family of daunte wright did not agree with the sentence that was handed down by a judge. but here we are less than two years after this sentence came down in february of 2021 she is going -- or excuse me, in february of 2022 she is going to be serving this last third out in the open, but she is, again, under supervised release, which means that she has to be prepared to be checked up on. she could be facing drug and alcohol testing, and she cannot own a gun. those are some of the conditions that she must meet now, chris.
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>> jesse kirsch, thank you for that. now to nbc's courtney kube joining us from the pentagon big question officials are being asked this hour is what exactly is being done to get those 16,000 americans still in sudan to safety, and is this a role as it was for the folks at the embassy potentially a military operation? >> reporter: so at this point there is no effort, and frankly, the officials i'm talking to here say there's really no incentive at this point to try to do a large scale evacuation you mentioned there's 16,000 americans. many of them are dual nationals who are there in sudan the number who have actually registered that they are interested in leaving the country, though, is much smaller. it's maybe in the 100s was a it's a fraction of the 16,000. the officials here at the pentagon and state department and biden administration, are continuing to say it's simply
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too dangerous, the large scale evacuation of americans from sudan. but the u.s., we literally just heard from national security adviser jake sullivan at the white house briefing saying that they are providing some sort of effort to actively facilitate the exit of americans. now, i made a couple of calls trying to figure out exactly what that means. there's two things they're doing. number one, they have put some drones overhead to help with any convoy that might go to the port of sudan, which is a place where some people have been able to leave the country from as of now, the number of convoys that they've been able to actually monitor from overhead is extremely small in addition to that, they have some u.s. naval assets, some ships not far away, if there needs to be a large scale evacuation of americans. the reality at this point is there is no effort underway to get the rest of those americans out. >> courtney kube, thank you for that update. appreciate it. we're continuing to wait to see
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what more the pentagon may have to say mea meantime, major maufs aoves areg reported on russia's invasion of ukraine ahead of a potential ukrainian counteroffensive nbc's ellison barber joins us now with more from kwoyiv. what can you tell us about these reports that russian troops are forcibly evacuating people from kherson? >> reporter: yeah, so a ukrainian official from this region said that this was happening and that the forcible evacuations, that's a term that he used, began on sunday nbc news has not independently verified these claims, but the white house is acknowledging that they are aware of these reports and also reminding people that this is a pattern we have seen with russia throughout the course of this war listen >> this isn't evacuating citizens this is forcibly moving them and relocating them. we're seeing some similar reports. we still have to get a little
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bit more context on this, but that is absolutely not unusual for the russians to do to move in, to claim that they're looking after the safety and security of civilians, ukrainians that live in these towns, when really they're just forcing them out >> reporter: right, so remember, this forcible deportation of children specifically is exactly what president vladimir putin has been caused of doing that's why last month the international criminal court issued an arrest warrant for him as well as another top ukrainian official, so these sorts of allegations, be it adults, children, this region or other regions are not new new, but th there is speculation because of the location where this is happening, perhaps russian forces are trying to pull people back in anticipation of ukraine's expected spring offensive. meanwhile, the bloodiest fighting is still happening in the east, the city of bakhmut where there's just been this back and forth inch by inch fight between russian and ukrainian forces
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there were reports, claims by russia's wagner group that they had surrounded that city ukrainian forces have since pushed back on that releasing in part this video and other video from the region showing how decimated it is, but they say to try and counter what they consider a disinformation campaign by russia to lower morale by saying that bakhmut has fallen that being said, what's happening in bakhmut, it's not a city that necessarily has massive strategic value, but we have heard from ukrainian commanders in this area that part of the strategy at this point is to sort of keep russian forces tied up in this area hoping that they deplete their troops, they deplete their resources, and that way presumably it makes the anticipated counteroffensive in the south a little bit easier for ukrainian forces because russia has had to just spend so much physical power over in bakhmut trying to take that city in that constant attritional back and forth chris. >> ellison barber, thank you.
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that's why you choose vmware. with flexible multi-cloud services that enable digital innovation and enterprise control, vmware helps you keep your cloud options open. right now, former president donald trump, as you know, is under indictment in new york as the target of several other investigations and facing a civil case starting this week, but -- and this is from our new poll, but most republican voters say no big deal. in fact, that poll found that 68% of republicans think the investigations into trump are politically motivated attempts to stop him. nbc's vaughn hillyard is in the trump stronghold staten island new york talking to voters there. what are you hearing, vaughn >> reporter: chris, the folks that we've talked to here over the last couple of hours are very much reflective of these new nbc news polls here
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nationally when you're talking about this potential donald trump versus joe biden matchup, it's much like the fact of having the dodgers and the astros go head to head. the most likely to get to the world series and yet unfavorable by the large greater national majority but when you go to their divisions, the republican party and the democratic party, right now they are the two front runners clearly. and when you look nationally at the numbers, you've got 70% of americans saying they don't want joe biden to run 50% of democrats say they don't want joe biden to run. then on the republican side, you've got 60% of americans saying they don't want donald trump to run and for both of these men, age is a major factor as to why. but when it comes down to it, the folks end up going to their corners. take a listen to some of the folks we talk to. >> do you like donald trump or >> ron desantis. >> ron desantis. why not trump? >> i don't know. i'm tired of him. >> tired of him. >> it's enough already i voted for him last time, but
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he lost so i want a younger guy. >> you're a registered democrat, so unlikely to vote for trump? >> i'm not sure because i don't like biden's age. >> that would make you more likely to vote for donald trump if you were facing him >> maybe >> joe biden is looking to announce his re-election this week >> yes, of course, right, yes. we're all informed, right? >> him or donald trump >> oh, i wouldn't vote for an old man. he's too old, no >> joe biden is too old? >> yes >> what about trump? >> what about him? >> would you vote for donald trump? >> yes, yes, i would now that i think about it >> this is a weird variable at play here, chris, is that you're dealing with an electorate that is looking for somebody younger, yet the reality is is that donald trump in our polling among republicans is up by 16 percentage points over ron desantis, and for joe biden he is the clear cut favorite. in our poll 96% of one-time
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bernie sanders, elizabeth warren primary voters said they would sure vote for joe biden in a general election against donald trump. the realities of a primary battle may lead to another donald trump/joe biden matchup, the extent of the age for both men, does that become an increasing variable of concern that is the question we'll be following here in these months ahead, chris. >> vaughn hillyard, thank you for that in staten island the new polls today pointing to a biden/trump rematch in 2024 rem remind us that the conventional wisdom and sources tell us president biden would be very happy with that. he and his team think former president trump is beatable in a general election but if that's what they want, who and what do they fear? joining me now former white house communications director, jennifer palmieri, and former ohio republican governor john kasich, both are msnbc political analysts when i hear that guy governor talking about how old the candidates are, it makes you and i look positively youthful,
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they're about the only two. >> well, we are, we are, chris >> having said that, there's nothing you can do, right? there's nothing you can do about your age, so -- >> oh, yeah, yeah, yes, there is. >> there is? >> there's a lot you can do about your age. >> tell us. >> it doesn't matter how old you are, it's what your ideas are. willie nelson packs them in because he's got something new he likes to do same thing with dylan. it's about do you have new ideas that generate excitement, capture people's imagination so yeah, abge is a factor, but ideas can belie your age, make you look a lot -- make you look like you're with it, so the question for biden is what is his next agenda? what does he really want to do not based on what a bunch of pollsters tell him what does he really want to do that get people pumped up and excited. apparently when he was in ireland, he painted a picture that people found hopeful. he has to do those kinds of
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things >> i do think, jen, he can look more youthful and more energetic when he's in front of a crowd. he likes that, you know, he'll grab the microphone and start, you know, stalking the stage but if you're sitting in that room right now with a team that's getting ready, we believe any day now to announce. >> tomorrow possibly. >> tomorrow possibly, what's the plan what's the plan when you look at the poll numbers and, again, when you look at the fact he's already the oldest president we've ever had and he's running for re-election? >> right, and the poll numbers -- they're not what you want to go into a reelect with in normal times. >> that is an understatement. >> but these are not normal times, right the electorate is still feeling very uncertain, very crabby, very anxious about the economy so -- and the country is very divided, so biden comes into this looking at the race with those two perspectives but on the other hand of it, if there were someone -- if there was a democrat out there who thought they could beat joe biden in a primary and thought
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they could do better than joe biden in a general election, they would be running, and they are not. and so i think what governor kasich said is a good point that, you know, when you have new ideas, that energizes the base, particularly young people when we get to '24, but for now there's a lot to run on about what biden's already accomplished and is implementing from semiconductor plans, new one in your home state of ohio, governor kasich's home state of ohio the infrastructure bill, they have a lot that they can be running on and pushing out now to get people to focus on, hope the economy gets better. if the economy doesn't get better, you know, even if they're running against trump, that's -- you know, that's a different conversation. >> but knowing what we know now, governor, do you agree with a lot of folks and i think many of the major players that trump may be the weakest against joe biden? and if that's the case, and i'm talking about a general
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election, obviously. who would be the toughest? is it another maga style republican but somebody who doesn't have the baggage of donald trump, or is it many in the lane of chris christie, chris sununu >> john kasich. >> john kasich. >> been there done that, john kasich. >> with all the changes we're seeing in the media today, who knows. everything's upside down today in the media world look, the first thing we have to think about, and i know jennifer would agree with this, probably gets frustrated at times people aren't watching this all the time, i might be for biden, i might be for trump because people are not riveted to this stuff every day. so we have a very long way to go i don't think the message of this negativity that comes out of trump works we've got the evidence we had him losing the election we lost all his special elections, we being republicans, i'm an american first. lost those elections the last midterm was poor. i mean, they're basically putting out a message that's not
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giving people an answer to the issues, the problems, things like what are you going to do about inflation? what are you going to do about health care? what are you going to do about prescription drugs who do i think is possible, there's a lot of people out there now, but you know, look at young chris sununu in hon attacked trump today said he's a four-time loser. he's an interesting guy, the media seems to like him. governor youngkin is in virginia, younger, a successful businessman. i don't want to count anybody out. if you can get a spark and capture the media's attention, you can rise you can become, you know, you can become a contender as they say in the boxing world. >> yeah, there were people who thought jimmy carter could never be president, bill clinton could never be president, barack obama could definitely not beat hillary clinton. look, we've learned that the president is set to tap julie chavez rodriguez to head up his campaign she takes a lot of the boxes that are traditional to joe biden.
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do you know her? what do you know of er what does her selection tell us about this campaign, what it's going to look like >> yeah, i worked with her both for president obama and hillary clinton's campaign, so i know her well she was a deputy campaign manager for president biden's election in 2022 so she's a good pick in that she comes from field, right? organizing it doesn't matter whether you're doing it digitally or whether you're knocking on doors, organizing is the same concept that is what she has been -- that is what she is reared in professionally, her family, her grandfather cesar chavez, that's her family background as well. she also understands policy, communication. she's been at the white house now. great working relationship with jen o'malley dylan who ran the campaign in '20 will remain at the white house, anita dunn, political strategist at the white house, julie, a good trifecta of women. >> there's no point at which
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you're going to wish you were out there with them instead of right here with me, right? >> i love my afternoons with chris, did you see that reaction from me, wow, yeah. >> i know it's all about me. i need a little reinforcement today, it's been a little crazy. jennifer palmieri, thank you, governor john kasich stay with us, we are going to talk to you in a little bit. right now president biden is taking some time at the white house to honor some of our nation's best teachers this is a live look, the 2023 teacher of the year is speaking now. president biden alongside his education secretary, miguel cardona honoring the finalists from all across the country who were nominated for that very high honor this has been a long road through. i mean, it's always tough to be a teacher, but through the pandemic, they're heroes to say the least, so congrats to her. the three tennessee lawmakers who were reinstated after being expelled for protesting for gun reform set to visit the white house any moment now as well. we've got a preview next plus, speaking of tennessee,
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less than an hour from now, president biden is set to meet at the white house with the tennessee three, the meeting with justin jones, just ten
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pearson and fwgloria johnson wi focus on banning assault weapons, on upholding many of what they say are the democratic values after they got shut down, two of them expelled, of course. nbc's alley allie raffa is wit from the white house what are we expecting to see and hear >> reporter: yeah, chris, it's pretty remarkable when you think of how much these lawmakers' lives have changed in the last few weeks, how much of what they went through as you just laid out has amplified their voices even more after what we saw go on in the tennessee state legislature. and now at the personal invitation of president biden, there as you said in less than an hour, set to meet with him, and according to karine jean-pierre talk about any sort of path toward meaningful gun reform that could possibly be achieved in the future state representative justin jones had a little bit more to say about what he hoens to get ou hopes to get out of this meeting when he spoke with our own
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andrea mitchell earlier today. take a listen to that. >> the fact that the president's meeting with us today, we have some ideas of things that we're going to lift up, like calling -- declaring mass shootings a public health emergency because we've had more mass shootings this year than days, and just to see what else we can do as allies because we need -- in a state like ours, we need support from the federal level. i'm going to say like tennessee we need to continue to stand with our allies whether in congress or at the white house and say let's do something together and let us lift up the moral issue of what is at stake with our children being massacred in schools. >> reporter: chris, we know that the state legislature adjourned on friday without any meaningful reform following the mass shooting in nashville last month. but tennessee governor bill lee has said that he'll call a special session when they do come back to discuss this issue, and that's what these lawmakers are hoping to get out of this meeting to put a further spotlight on this issue and call for some sort of reform, even at a state level, possibly a federal level in the wake of this of course we've seen president biden for years make this a
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topic of concern, put a l highlight on this, and we expect that to only continue through this meeting today, chris. >> allie raffa, thank you so much for that. tennessee republican governor bill lee is calling state lawmakers back to work and telling them they need to revisit the gun debate after lawmakers gavelled out their legislative session on friday without acting on gun control, despite growing calls after the mass shooting at nashville that killed six, including three children governor lee saying, quote, there is broad agreement that dangerous, unstable individuals who intend to do harm to themselves or others should not have access to weapons but this, of course, is the same legislative body that voted to expel lawmakers for protesting on the house floor for gun control. so how much progress is really possible, and what will it take to get it done back with me, someone who knows about the relationship between the governor's mansion and the state house, former republican governor of ohio john kasich so governor, i want to start with what you make of this move
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by governor lee to call lawmakers back to work and whether you think this ongoing public pressure in his state after that horrific shooting maybe might move things to get done, or is it just important to make the move even if nothing gets done? >> no, i think he's keeping the pressure on, and he deserves credit for this. i was talking to zack womp who actually ran for governor, served in the house with me, and he had told me about a week ago that bill lee was calling for a red flag law, and i said please tell him, you know, that he's doing the right thing. in fact, i will call governor lee if i can and look, there's a couple of things that they could do down there that make sense. one is the red flag law. you see somebody who you think is unstable who is in possession of a firearm, you go to a judge. you quickly have that gun taken away, it can be restored when that person is stabilized. who could be against that? we know that that would have been effective in a number of cases that we've seen across this country number two, how about a little
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waiting period something you can wait on before you get the gun or number three, making sure that when crimes are committed locally that the crime information, the data gets sent up to the database so we know who should be able to get a gun when they go to check the database to say should you get one or not, a lot of times that data is not there. maybe what governor lee needs to do, chris, is to maybe have a little bit of a group together and to drive some sort of c compromise on this, on some of these issues red flag laws should be a given. the other thing i would say is those young people who went to the grounds of the state house, the young people that went into the capitol, they need to be back again i don't know what the right time is, but the more people you can put on the grounds of the state house, the more people that can put pressure like that, the better chance of you have of passing something, absent anybody protesting, anybody being there, and i think it makes the job more difficult to
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get anything significant done. but give this man credit for what he's doing. >> you knew and found out as governor how difficult it can be to do it you ultimately used executive orders because the legislature wouldn't pass what you wanted them to pass i mean, is that where we are the same thing we saw with joe biden, right that he simply said i've gone as far as i can go. >> yeah, there's a limit to that, and look, everybody needs to understand, we're not talking about destroying the second amendment. we're talking about some reasonable provisions that are complementary to the second amendment. to say that somebody who is unstable ought to have access to a gun, i mean, there'd be 99 out of 100 people that would say no, but these legislators are listening to the loud voices in their communities, and they're not listening to the bulk of what people want so i don't think these are unreasonable suggestions nobody here is even talking about assault weapons right now, we're talking about some simple
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things that can be done in responsible to the terrible tragedy in nashville >> so there's so many tragedies, and we've been reporting on quite a few of them over the last couple of weeks, i'm sure you've heard about them, governor where people are shooting each other for no apparent reason. i don't know if you heard about this, but in florida prosecutors have called for an investigation. they say a homeowner fired shots into a couples' car who mistakemis mistakenly turned onto his property they were making a late night instacart delivery, just trying to make some money where are we now in this country where it's so common, your basketball rolls into somebody's, you know, yard. >> you ring the wrong doorbell, you know. >> you pull into somebody's driveway >> you know, chris, i faced this actually here, it's called stand your ground. when you feel threatened, you know, you then can take action and i thought the law was bad. i vetoed the law, the legislature overrode me, and you know, again there was not the support that i would have liked
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to have had with people saying, no, you can't do that, and so it's going to take those -- it's like everything else, chris. it's marching for civil rights it's marching for women's rights you know, giving women the right to vote. it was ending the vietnam war. you've got to have the public actively engaged in terms of bringing the heat, and if you can bring the heat and this stand your ground, you know, this is going to be litigated and litigated. i wish we didn't have stand your ground here, you know in the state of ohio or across the country. there's other ways to deal with the fact that when you feel threatened part of it is the castle doctrine, but they've expanded all that, and we're seeing terrible tragedies here. >> former governor john kasich, it's always good to have you on the program. thank you so much. now to a tragic story of how gun violence has forever changed one family multiple times over 12-year-old secret pierce died friday after being shot in the head by a stray bullet while she sat in a parked car. she lost her father more than a decade ago to gun violence after
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he was shot in the back twice. janet rice, her grandmother and caretaker and a crisis response specialist, by the way, in hartford, connecticut, was on the way to the hospital to help those in need after the shooting when she got a call and found out her granddaughter was one of the victims. she has now buried both her son and her granddaughter, both victims of gun violence. she told reporters, quote, i am angry, heartbroken, and numb we'll be right back.
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happening now, the trial for the suspect accused of carrying out the deadliest anti-semitic attack in our nation's history has begun. jury selection is ongoing in a courtroom in pittsburgh where more than four years ago a gunman went into the tree of life synagogue on the sabbath morning and fatally shot 11 worshippers from three congregations that shared the space. now the community is looking to turn that synagogue into a museum to honor the memory of those lost and educate others about the deadly danger of anti-s anti-semitism. i want to bring in the co-chair of remember, rebuild, renew, jeffrey solomon. thank you for being with us. i'm sure this is in many ways a challenging day for you and for members of the congregation. how's everybody doing, first of all? >> i think it's a difficult ta for the entire community the victims and their families,
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certainly the congregation, the city of pittsburgh it's not an easy day, but it's a day that we knew would come, and it's an opportunity for us to i guess raise consciousness or really -- about where we're going with the tree of life going forward, so you know, i view these as really a chance for us to talk about the great things we're going to be doing going forward as well as honoring the memory of those who we lost. >> yeah, i do think it's remarkable how people under the worst of circumstances are able to find something positive to do, and i think remember rebuild renew is doing something truly remarkable, taking the side of this tragedy, they want to educate, they want to give people hope. talk about your mission for this space now. >> yeah, so, again, first and foremost, we want to honor the memories of the 11 victims and their families, and i think, you know, these were great people who were doing great things in the community to a person, and
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so we have to do something that really honors theirs legacy and their memory and part of what we're really focusing on is how do we actually bring together the communities across pittsburgh, the state of pennsylvania, the country, the world around this idea of ending anti-semitism for the benefit of everyone, and i think the big mission for us in addition to the memorializing the lives lost is really to foster a much more constructive dialogue around how we bring communities together to end all forms of identity-based hate we will focus on anti-semitism because that's what happened here, and it's the narrative of our people, but i think when you look at the things that we all have in common, regardless if you're jewish or not jewish, everybody has the capacity to understand what it's like to be an other or be persecuted in some way and so we should be tapping into that common feeling that we have, even if our own versions of persecution are slightly different, and really trying to
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form bonds with people who want to eradicate identity-based hate across the board. >> just last month the antidefamation league put out its yearly audit of anti-semitic incidents. they found a 36% increase from 2021 to 2022 that's the highest number on record since that group started tracking attacks in 1979 do you believe that opening up these dialogues, that having a place where people can come together, that it can start to have that kind of impact do you think there's just a profound lack of understanding out there that you can help to build something different? >> well, so in the days following the shootings, we saw a tremendous amount of support from other communities in pittsburgh i personally received so many calls from all over the world. if you know two things about me, you know that i'm jewish and i'm from pittsburgh, and so when people reached out with that kind of empathy to make sure that my family was okay and to make sure that i was okay, you know, it tells you that there
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is -- people want to be connected to this event and want to figure out ways to make it better in the tdays, weeks, and months following the shooting, the community around pittsburgh, the muslim community really reached out to the jewish community in such a supportive manner to tray to make things better. when you look at the coalition that we're putting together of funders and people that were involved, it's across all types of people who want to simply see a world that goes after ending anti-semitism, and other forms of identity-based hate so we have drawn a tremendous amount of energy from the idea that there's a lot of us out here that like to see that happen, and it's really an amazing thing if we can pull this off, and when we do pull this off, it will not only memorialize the lives of the 11 who we really feel compelled to honor but really build this sense of community with a purpose to ending anti-semitism for the benefit of even. >> i look forward to talking with you when that happens, i hope not only do you find that
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you have even more allies than you thought, but maybe you'll have some new allies that didn't exist before swr jerry solomon, thank you so much. a chaotic scene at disney land when a dragon burst into flames during a show what's being done to prevent it from happening again you're watching "chrisan jsing reports" only on msnbc and talk about some risks. with type 2 diabetes you have up to 4 times greater risk of stroke, heart attack, or death. even at your a1c goal, you're still at risk ...which if ignored could bring you here... ...may put you in one of those... ...or even worse. too much? that's the point. get real about your risks and do something about it. talk to your health care provider about ways to lower your risk of stroke, heart attack, or death. learn more at getrealaboutdiabetes.com subway keeps upping their game with the subway series. an all-star menu of delicious subs. like #8 the great garlic - rotisserie style chicken, bacon and garlic aioli. i've tasted greatness. great garlic though - tastes way better.
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of an abundance of caution after a real fire broke out at disney land's fantasmic show this weekend. the packed crowd gasped, multiple people yelling, oh, my god, as a massive mechanical dragon, you see it here, went up in flames. you could actually see that fire raging from across the park all the way from the top of splash mountain several disney cast members were treated for smoke inhalation, although no guests or firefighters were injured, and again, disney has temporarily suspended similar fire effects globally as a precaution as they investigate. right now postal workers are sounding the alarm about a scary rise in attacks on mail carriers robbed, beaten, even held at gunpoint nbc's aaron gilchrist has more >> fear enveloping postal workers across the country. >> i just got held up. >> reporter: caught on camera, neighborhood mail carriers targeted by robbers, many like this one near boston held up at
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gunpoint, near houston a mailman forced to put his hands in the air when a thief charged at him with a weapon. in milwaukee postal employee andre cross shot to death on his route investigators believe over a package. the crime wave perhaps worse in chicago, police there issuing an alert after a string of postal worker robberies more than two dozen since the beginning of the year. >> mail carriers are very frightened, more so than ever because of the ongoing armed robberies. we've never seen anything like this before. >> reporter: patrick gibbons is a usps mail handler in chicago and says the growing number of assaults is all he and his colleagues can talk about. >> the postal workers i work with, they love what they do they enjoy what they do. they love to serve the community. they're very scared, very ner nervous. >> reporter: the postal service wouldn't immediately provide data but acknowledging to nbc news over the past several years its employees and the mail have increasingly been marks for criminals. their targeting a master key that will open any one of these collection boxes and almost any
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locked mailbox on a carrier's route, so for criminals that means quick, easy access to your mail case in point, the blue box being dumped several months ago near philly, and the suspect using a stolen key in an oakland apartment building >> makes it easy to grab checks to wash and it's just the perfect opportunity for crime. it gives you access to all of the mailboxes within a certain zip code, not only the blue collection boxes, but the cluster boxes that mail is delivered to as well >> reporter: marlon barber is on the postal inspection service police force and a union rep in chicago. he believes crooks have simply realized mail carriers can be easy targets. >> in 2020, our agency grounded us so we were not able to do carrier protection patrols anymore, and since then postal crime waves against carriers have skyrocketed. >> reporter: the postal service telling nbc news it's been working to harden collection boxes and to enhance key technology nationwide. it plans to implement more
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bed, bath and beyond has officially gone bankrupt filing for chapter 11 on sunday the home goods retailer saying they plan to wind down their entire business. now the question on everyone's mind is does this mean the age of brick and mortar retailers is done nbc news business and data reporter brian cheung joins me now. let's start with bed, bath and beyond, what does this bankruptcy mean? >> what it means is their 360 or so locations are going to start liqu liquidating. the big date is wednesday. that's date that those 20% mailer coupons, which i have a
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stack of at home, those coupons will no longer work because of the fact that bed, bath and beyond is going to be doing their heavy diskcounting on whatever is on the shelves as part of efforts to clean out their stores for people looking for a good deal on maybe some bath towels, that could be a good time to check out bed, bath and beyond. >> everyone talks about amazon, how easy it is to get almost anything you can get at bed, bath and beyond, the 20% off coupons didn't work. is that just something for a headline, the death of brick and mortar or is that what we're seeing here, another nail in the coffin >> look, this is not the only brand to go under when we think about toys"r"us going bankrupt, sears also going bankrupt. there are a few other names. >> party city, david's bridal. >> we could keep going, right? the big story there is that these kind of specialty retailers, which for the record had legacies built on them, right? bed, bath and beyond is a household name so are the other names we just talked about, but att the end o the day, it's not just e-commerce because you can go
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online and hit a few buttons, but it's also the prevalence of big box retail people who are in a pinch, they still want to get to a place in 15 or 20 minutes to get what they need. but they're not going to bed, bath and beyond, they're going to target, walmart, that's a big part of the story as well. >> convenience for sure, thank you very much. we've all heard of the northern lights, but sightings overnight may have people asking if they should change the name check out these stunning pictures taken over riverton, wyoming, about a thousand miles further south than you typically see the aurora borealis. similar displays were seen across a huge portion of the u.s. from washington, d.c., to arkansas, even in the texas panhandle. experts say a powerful geomagnetic storm is what caused the northern lights to travel so far south. that is spectacular. and that's going to do it for us this hour. don't miss joe scarborough's special tonight. he traveled to ireland 25 years
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after the good friday agreement to talk with president biden, with bill clinton, hillary clinton, and many more people. that's tonight 8:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. it is also streaming on peacock. make sure to join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern, our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" right now ♪ good to be with you, i'm katy tur seven days ago fox news paid one of the biggest defamation settlements in history, stopping the dominion lawsuit from going to trial more than $787 million to settle claims dominion made that fox was lying about the 2020 election and amplifying false claims that the voting machine company rigged votes for joe biden. in discovery we learned some fox news hosts and executives knew the election was not stolen and that some of their

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