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at this hour, extreme weather, yet another community in shock their lives and homes in pieces after a deadly tornado ripped through the area the latest from oklahoma plus, how russia accidentally bombed one of its own cities just miles from the ukrainian border looming legal troubles, charges federal prosecutors have considered against hunter biden as his father gears up for his official reelection announcement. also, debt limit show down, why neither party can get on the same page on the best way of keeping the u.s. from defaulting on its debt. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments we begin with new reporting taking us inside the federal investigation into the president's son, hunter biden. nbc's ken dilanian is following it for us. what's the latest? >> reporter: nbc news is reporting that the justice
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department is considering four separate charges against the president's son, two sn misdemeanors for failing to file taxes, one count of lying on a gun application. we're also reporting that the fbi and irs have been finished with their investigation for more than a year and there's growing frustration within the fbi, for example, as to why nothing is moving on this case, and now there's a whistleblower who has come forward, raising questions as to whether there's been political interference at levels of the biden administration >> ken dilanian, thank you for that i want to go to capitol hill where kevin mccarthy is scrambling to get skeptical republicans behind his plan to raise the debt limit garrett haake is on capitol hill at this point, how confident or not is mccarthy that he can get to 218 >> mccarthy and his team have been projecting confidence all
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week they just rolled out this debt limit plan the other day they're hoping to get it on the floor early next week. that will be the tell. as lawmakers were getting ready to leave town yesterday afternoon. we noticed several meetings and huddles, conversations among members trying to figure out if there was language that needed to be tweaked particularly on things like work requirements for some federal entitlements like medicaidm these are sticky issues. some of these republicans who won biden districts in 2022 don't necessarily want to be saddled with on a bill that's not going to become law. chuck schumer and the democratic senate are not going to vote on the bill it's never going to get to joe biden's desk this is meant to be a messaging bill, a starting point for negotiations mccarthy very much wants to get started with joe biden that's the message that he has to sell to some of the skeptics in his conference. whether you like this or not, he will likely say you've got to vote for it because we've got to get started talking. whether that message is enough to carry the day, we'll find out
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next week whether this vote passes or fails or if they push it off, chris. either one will tell us a good deal about kind of the control mccarthy has on his conference and how close we might get to stumbling over the debt limit. >> have a good weekend, i have a feeling it's going to be a very busy week next week for both of us garrett, thank you for that. i want to go now to nbc's ellison barber who has more on the military mess in russia from kyiv first, what's the kremlin saying about how you bomb your own city, and there are a lot of influential russian military bloggers have they picked up on this? >> yeah, i mean, look. the simple answer to your question is russia's ministry of defense says we did this and it was an accident. video that was captured shows the moment this strike happens you see something hitting what we are told is an apartment building along the side of the road, and quickly after you see the subsequent explosion, local officials there, they're saying
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an apartment building was hit. three people have been injured this city, belgrade is close to the border with ukrainement initially, the online chatter was about whether or not ukraine carried out this strike. there have been some drone attacks on infrastructure in this city in the past. in the past, russia has said those were covert attacks carried out by ukraine, but in this instance, russia's ministry of defense says that was not the case at all. they say this attack was an accident and that a russian war plane had what is being described in state media as a, quote, accidental discharge of aviation ammunition. the aircraft reportedly involved in this is said to be an su 34, which is one of russia's most advanced aircrafts some military bloggers in russia have been suggesting this idea that possibly russia was trying to test some new munitions they had in the category of gliding munition, and there was some sort of malfunction with the gps
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system none of that has been confirmed by russia, but there are discussions going on online about what exactly happened here, how exactly did something like this happen again, three people have reportedly been injured. all of the people living this that apartment building have been evacuated and russia's ministry of defense says this was a strike and attack from one of their own war planes but that it was unintentional all of this comes on the heels in the last 24 hours about ukraine and its role in nato you had the secretary general of nato in kyiv yesterday saying very clearly that he thinks that ukraine's rightful place was in the nato block moving forward, but he said, and he reiterated this again today first, you feel like this war must be won. there's a meeting taking place in ramstein in germany, you have the 50 plus members of the ukrainian defense contract block group meeting and discussing plans moving forward, ammunition
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providing more supplies, more weapons, more tanks to ukraine but they're also talking about nato and what the future looks like for that block and for this country. i want you to listen to a little of what the u.s. secretary general had to say listen. >> who thought that our unity would fracture, but russia's cruel war of choice has only brought us closer together putin's war of choice is not the result of nato enlargement putin's war is a cause of nato's enlargement. >> reporter: so as all of this talk has been happening, we've heard from the spokesperson for russian president vladimir putin twice in the last 24 hours, yesterday where he answered a question saying that he felt like these comments suggested -- or he said at the time, rather, that the choice for ukraine for one of the key factors for this war here on russia's part, having to do with nato
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expansion, feeling that that is still one of the main goals. today, when he was asked specifically about all of this back and forth, he said essentially these comments show in their view that president putin made the right decision in launching this war, what they call a special military operation saying this proves in their view that nato is an aggressive block and that it threatens the security of russia chris. >> ellison barber, thank you for that. severe spring weather is sweeping across the country, now heading east, but leaving towns devastated in its wake nbc's priscilla thompson is in heart hit cole, oklahoma, what are you seeing there >> so much damage and devastation on the ground here in oklahoma. i'll give you a quick look at some of what we're seeing. you see this house here. the entire side wall of this home completely fallen out as a result of this tornado you can also see the roof here
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completely gone, and the couple that lives here, the woman actually told me that she was sheltering underneath this bar area, holding her husband's hand as she experienced all of this around them, and they are so grateful today to have made it out of this situation, and that is what we're hearing from so many people here as they are grappling with this devastation. i spoke to the woman who lives just behind this home, and she talked about hearing the sirens and beginning to realize that this tornado was bearing down on them and she was able to run into a storm shelter that she had in her backyard, and that's where they hid when they came out, the entire house was completely gone. and i want to play a little bit of some of what we're hearing from other people here about how uncommon all of this is and just what this experience has been like for them. take a listen. >> we opened the screen door, and then it tore it out of our hands and shattered. we grabbed the dogs and ran to
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our shelter. this long dirt is where our house was. >> this was the house? >> yes, ma'am. this end was my bedroom. there's a huge rock that it moved. >> that was your back porch? >> that was my back porch. and i have the best built deck in the world. >> and people today are continuing to return to their homes and try to clean out and save what they can as the governor here has issued a state of emergency to try to get materials in, emergency materials to help restore power to the thousands of people who are still without power, as residents here continue to think about what they're going to do about temporary and ultimately permanent housing and of course how and whether they will rebuild. back to you. >> priscilla thompson, thank you for that. president biden's 2024 rose garden strategy on full display this hour. we've got a preview of his remarks as we learn new detail about his reelection plansn i just 60 seconds.
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any minute now president biden is expected to take to the podium in the white house rose garden talking about healthy communities and new actions related to the environment as he gets ready to formally announce his reelection campaign next week. i'm joined by nbc white house correspondent, mike memoli, peter baker is chief white house correspondent for the "new york times" and an msnbc political analyst. all three of us familiar with the white house running a little behind we don't even have a shot up from the rose garden we're keeping an eye on it right now. we have seen the president in the rose garden already this week, and both times, mike, the focus has been on executive actions he's taking to keep the focus on priorities like child care or the environment. is this just a little glimpse of what's to come when he's officially running again >> well, chris, they don't call it a rose garden strategy for nothing, right, so we're going
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to hear the president today on the eve of earth day talking about what he considers some of his important accomplishments while in office. some of the climate provisions of the inflation reduction act he's also going to be taking executive actions to create the office of environmental justice. this is an important concept for this president who has put racial equity at the forefront of his agenda, in recognition of the fact that communities of color tend to be those who have to live, 75% more likely, in fact, to live near facilities that produce hazardous waste the president calling on his administration to put this issue at the forefront of their agenda as well. but we are going to see him do what we're going to see him do a lot in the coming year, which is to use congressional republicans as sort of his temporary foil until the republican nomination race is settled. as karine jean-pierre put it, the president is going to be talking about the difference between his agenda and what we have seen in the congressional republicans budget proposal, which as she put it rather
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bluntly would put more smog in the air and give children asthma the cuts they're proposing across the board would lead to just that. another example of how this white house is going to be running against congressional republicans until president biden knows whohe's running against until next november. >> i think it's applicable, something you wrote, not mike, peter. in the times a couple of weeks ago about a possible biden-trump rematch. to the extent that the remainder of mr. biden's term is a split screen between the 45th and 46th presidents, white house officials are willing to live with less air time if it means their president is focusing on manufacturing, health care and climate change while the other one is seen focusing on pretrial motions, hostile witnesses and records of hush money paid to a porn star. that contrast, is the feeling at the white house that even with his low approval ratings right
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now that is the central path to victory? >> yeah, chris, you got it exactly right. this is a president whose approval rating is in the low 40% range. that's not a recipe for success in the second term as the president likes to say all the time, don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative, and he means donald trump, and kevin mccarthy and the house republicans. his argument is basically going to be, the other side is absorbed by this drama, by all of these indictments that may or may not come, by the court dates, civil trials and so forth, and i'm the guy who's focusing on what you devoters want in terms of things like climate change, health care, inflation and other issues that may mean he doesn't get as much air time because obviously being booked and finger printed in a new york courthouse is a little more dramatic than some of this stuff, but that's a comparison they're willing to live with. they think a lot of voters will be happy with a little less drama and remind themselves why
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they like biden in 2020. >> we have the rose garden shot up now peter on the republican side, i want to talk about governor ron desantis and his priorities. if you look at the last week or so, the headlines talk about his fight with disney, establishing the lowest threshold in the country for the death penalty. the legislature's expansion of the don't say gay law, and the fact, highly criticized that he was out of state while florida was dealing with gas shortages here's what kellyanne conway said yesterday about that. >> he's wasted five and a half months i think we're going to look back at the period of time between november and may, six months, larry, and say what in the world happened desantis and trump flipped places in the polls. he spends way too much time on the culture wars and that begins with disney but includes many other things woke is important, but eweyou c' have that as a replacement for a bold, growth centric economic plan. >> woke is important, but for republicans, like ron desantis who seem to believe the culture wars are the pathway to victory,
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is there some evidence now that might suggest maybe not? >> that's a good question, obviously. what ron desantis's strategy is that nobody is going to get to the right of him, certainly on social issues anyway, and that therefore he is going to be the last person standing if and when trump self-destructs or can't run because he's just weighed down by too many legal issues. at the moment, he's not doing as well in the polls as he had been doing, as kellyanne conway correctly pointed out. trump has gotten a boost, oddly enough, from his indictment in manhattan. that's not where things are going to end up. they're basically presenting him as trump without the issues. you know, a younger, 44-year-old trump who does a lot of things that trump voters might want him to do but without the baggage. >> peter baker, mike memoli and it looks like a beautiful day in the rose garden. we'll keep our eye on that, and when president biden comes out, thank you both for being with
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us. one american has now died in the intense fighting between rival military factions in sudan. we'll bring you the latest from the pentagon. plus, why the charges have been dropped against actor alec baldwin in the "wrrust" movie s shooting is everyone off the hook. and later in the show we'll talk autbo america's pothole problem and what is being done to fix it. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc it's lying dormant, waiting... and could reactivate. shingles strikes as a painful, blistering rash that can last for weeks. and it could wake at any time. think you're not at risk for shingles? it's time to wake up. because shingles could wake up in you. if you're over 50, talk to your doctor or pharmacist about shingles prevention. at pnc bank, you can find us in big cities and small towns across the us, where our focus is to always support
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in sudan, hopes for a holiday peace pact as the sudanese army says it has accepted a temporary truce to celebrate the last day of ramadan. the power struggle between rival military factions now one week old has killed more than 413 people as of this morning setting off a spiraling humanitarian crisis. right now, 70% of the hospitals in conflict zones are out of service. the few hospitals still open are overwhelmed by the injured the two warring generals are now under growing international pressure to stop the fighting, at least long enough to allow trapped civilians to escape. while those diplomatic discussions play out, the u.s. is preparing for the worst, deploying troops nearby in case they need to rescue americans caught in the cross fire meagan fitzgerald and courtney
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kube are we me what is the situation on the ground, and what is the status of diplomatic efforts to reach a truce? >> reporter: chris, this is absolutely a crisis situation. it is increasingly volatile situation that is rapidly deteriorating. i mean, keep in mind, we're talking about fighting that is taking place in civilian streets. incredibly scary moments for the civilians who have been expoese to this for a week now 400 people have been killed since saturday we know that more than 3,500 people have been injured these are people that many of them can't even get care because as you mentioned, the majority of the hospitals in the capital city aren't able to operate because they have been damaged they have been attacked. so as you mentioned, just a couple of hours ago, the head of the sudanese armed forces, the sudanese army agreeing to this cease fire, something that we have seen many offers over the last several days. he agreed to that. it's supposed to be 72 hours it's an opportunity, as you
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mentioned, for this majority muslim country to be able to reflect and enjoy the muslim after fasting for 30 days during the day during ramadan, and for people to get humanitarian aid, for people to get food and water, which we know in many cases is running out people are living without water, without electricity. according to the international refugee community that some 15,000 people have already tried to flee to get to chad, so this is something that we will continue to monitor. it's an agreement that has been made at this point, but we do have producers on the ground listening to make sure that this is adhered to. again, it's supposed to be 72 hours apiece. >> courtney, among the millions pinned down in the capital, u.s. diplomatic staff they're sheltering still at the embassy. what happens if there's no serious fire >> the u.s. is preparing, and the state department is
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preparing for the possibility of having to evacuate those roughly 70 or so personnel who were assigned to the embassy in khartoum u.s. military have started to pre-position nearby in djibouti, a large u.s. military installation that has infrastructure they could support if they needed to bring a large number of civilians out of sudan and bring them there. in addition to that, there are u.s. military -- there are u.s. military who are specifically trained for this kind of mission, even if it means going into it, they would call it contested or hostile environment. the u.s. military, the marine corps specifically set up these quick reaction forces after the attack on benghazi, the u.s. consulate in benghazi more than a decade ago they have been postured around the region they could go in and retrieve these americans, these personnel if necessary in addition to that, there are other special operations forces who are trained for these kinds of extremely difficult missions.
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that being said, not only is it that there's a contested environment, but the main airport in khartoum is literally the center of the fighting right now. it's not operating that adds another layer of difficulty, and just to give a sense of just how dangerous this is, we have been talking about how there was an american citizen we know was killed in the fighting in addition to that, there was a convoy carrying americans earlier this week that came under fire it's an extremely dire situation. it's not safe to move people around on the roads. all eyes right now are watching on exactly what meagan was just talking about, the cease fire. unfortunately they have not been holding. there is a hope that maybe during the muslim celebration that they will hold the cease fire as of now, we're hearing already today reports of firing, of air strikes, of artillery. all eyes are seeing if, in fact, it will hold long enough for civilians to get out >> courtney, meagan, thank you
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very much. president biden put on his sunglasses, it's such a beautiful day. he's there talking about healthy communities and new actions related to the environment let's listen >> look, your great leader, katherine, i really mean it. and just named one of the most influential people of the year in "time" magazine being a grandparent the second time around, that's the best of the jobs, right? look, congratulations to your granddaughter, she's going to be looking up to you for a long time, and i thank everyone for joining us here today. epa administrator reagan has done a hell of a -- heck of a job for us for a long time and i kid her all the time, had she been born in the united states instead of canada, she would be the president standing
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here, jennifer granholm, you're doing a great job. the chair of the white house consulate and environmental quality, where's brenda. there she is, brenda members of congress who work on this issue every day, and champions of environmental justice, let's get something straight none of this would happen without you guys, and that's a fact none of this would happen without you. look, stand up and i want the war hero, she's not going to be able to stand up because she's in a wheelchair, but everybody else, please stand up. [ applause ] and i also want to mention a member who can't be here today, congressman, an old
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friend, don mckeechum, fought for everything we're talking about today. i want to thank advocates, community leaders, members of the white house, environmental council, many of who have been working on this issue for a long time, and persuading those in power to pay attention to make this a priority. what you do matters. it matters a great deal. i ask all of you on the council to stand up and be recognized. some couldn't be here today. [ applause ] i mean it, thank you. thank you, thank you, thank you. earth day is tomorrow. a chance to reflect on the national wonders of our nation and our planet but we have to do a great deal more than just reflect we have to commit ourselves to action will we step up to our ambitions? will we stand together to meet the great challenges we have
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will we preserve our planet for future generations history is going to judge us by how we answer these questions. that's not hyperbole, that's a fac fact today i hope the answer is loud and clear. yes, we're determined to strengthen ambitions and actions, and yes, we will include communities that have been denied basic security, basic dignity, having clean air, clean water and clean energy jobs, and environmental justice. and fol folks, like you, environmental issues have been close to my heart for a long time one of the first people to introduce a climate bill, i did back in 1986 it's because i grew up in delaware, somebody knows where claymont, delaware is. oh, all right. well, i grew up in delaware, just on the pennsylvania line.
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at the time i was growing up there in an area called brookfield apartments, there were more oil refineries in that neck of the woods, in that southeast corner of pennsylvania than in houston, texas, and i went to school about a mile up the road on a thing called the philadelphia pike. mom used to drive us up because it was a very busy highway and drop us off. and on those days early on when there would be the first frost, you'd turn on the windshield wipers, not a joke, there would be an oil slick on the window, literally an oil slick on the front windshield, and how many folks across the country have had similar experiences. you know, we know public health impacts of toxins of air and water. there's real effects i think it's one of the reasons why i had childhood asthma so many people in the area, we had one of the highest cancer rates in the nation in that part of delaware for the longest
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time that's why when i was running for president i made it a priority to meet with environmental justice laeeaders i remember one conversation we had in the summer of 2020, those stories are unforgettable. people living near factories, seeing the paint on their cars literally peel off because the air was so corrosive imagine being a parent scared to death about what the air and rain was going to do to your kids landfills and garbage centers located right in the middle of communities. drinking water contaminated by radon and arsenic. this kind of inequity and injustice goes against everything we stand for as a nation, but it continues to exist. so when i was elected president with kamala, we voted to take action in the most ambitious climate agenda in american history, and that's exactly what we did with your support [ applause ] on day one of my presidency, we reentered the
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paris agreement because the united states should lead the world in fighting the climate crisis yesterday, i convened a major economic forum on zoom comprised of the world's leading emitters to accelerate progress and help poorer countries and communities deal with the impacts of climate change. and i announced and i'm going to ask congress for $500 million to protect the amazon deforestation and get other countries to do the same it's an irreplaceable resource that the whole planet depends on i signed an executive order directing my administration to take sweeping action to tackle the climate crisis we set a historic goal to direct 40%, excuse me, direct 40% of the overall benefits of all federal investment in climate change to clean air, clean
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water, clean transit, and more to communities that are disproportionately impacted by environmental degradation. with your support, we're living up to that pledge through our just 40 initiative we passed the bipartisan infrastructure law to modernize our roads, bridges, ports, airports, and so much more replacing every single lead pipe in america because we think everyone should be able to turn on a faucet at home or the 400,000 schools and drink clean water. school districts across the country electrify their school buses so kids don't have to breathe polluted air from diesel exhaust. across appalachian and the great plains, we plug in so called orphan wells which emit methane which is more dangerous and toxic than anything else that comes out of the ground. more dangerous gases poisoning air and water in rural communities.
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we're delivering clean water, clean sanitation to millions of families, and we're cleaning up toxic pollution, including brown fields at super fund sites which have been a blight on communities for decades. the vice president wanted to be here today, but she's in florida, announcing investments we're making in infrastructure in coastal areas vulnerable to storms, but together we passed the inflation reduction act, which makes the most significant investment in dealing with climate change ever anywhere in the history of the world, literally, not figuratively. $370 billion investment which will reduce annual carbon emissions by 1 billion tons in 2030 and folks, for example, offer working families a thousand dollars a year in savings providing rebates to buy new efficient pay appliances, weathe their homes, energy efficient
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ovens, and so much more. provides tax credits for electric vehicles, new and used, we convinced the auto companies on this lawn out here, a year and a half ago to move to all electric vehicles in the near term it's a gigantic game changer and that's not all the inflation reduction act also is the most significant law in u.s. history when it comes to environmental justice. here's just one example. air pollution around ports folks who live near ports know air pollution can be extreme because all trucks and all the vehicles moving goods in and out of ports and on the backs of ships are polluting the air significantly. the inflation reduction act includes investments in adopting clean, heavy duty trucks and clean port equipment and folks, it's going to make a real difference for families who live near those ports. we're investing in air quality
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sensors in communities, so people can know what the risk is and how safe the air is. red line communities are literally hotter because there's more pavement, fewer trees, so we're planting millions of new trees to cool down our city streets, and we're also making major investments in clean energy in disadvantaged communities to lower energy costs and create good paying jobs brenda was recently in houston where we're building a solar farm on the site of a former landfill right in the middle of a neighborhood another example, what's good for the environment is also good for jobs, brenda thank you. and these are the kinds of projects we're funding all across the country, in urban, rural and suburban and tribal communities. and then last year, jill and i reignited the cancer moon shot, to end cancer as we know it. it's a whole government effort,
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one of our top priorities to better understand and prevent environmental exposures. if we do that, we know we can save and extend millions of lives. look, this is about people's health it's about the health of our communities. it's only about the future of our planet just since i've become president, i have flown over literally thousands of acres of land, burned flat by wildfire because of environmental changes. more acreage burned to the ground that i have witnessed from helicopters in the last 19 months than are in the entire state of maryland. the entire state of maryland burned to the ground i've seen too many communities turned to rubble by storms that are growing more frequent and ferocious, and it's an existential threat to our nation and literally to the world i wish i could say that everyone saw it that way. but just this past week we heard speaker mccarthy and the -- this
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is not your father's republican party. and the maga republicans in congress want to repeal climate provisions in the inflation reduction act. they would rather threaten to default on the u.s. economy or get rid of some $30 billion in taxpayer subsidies rather than get rid of $30 billion taxpayer subsidies to an oil industry that made $200 billion last year imagine making that choice imagine seeing all of this happen the wildfires, the storms, the floods, and doing nothing about it nothing about it imagine taking all of these -- >> on the eve of earth day, presidential joe biden in the rose garden calling on americans to commit to action on the environment and preserve our planet to quote him, he says his administration has taken sweeping action in that regard i want to bring in nbc news white house correspondent mike memoli, back with us again
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obviously this is a message that appeals to the base. it's also a message that appeals very strongly to young voters, which we have seen in the last couple of elections come out very strong, and we just heard him, what we were talking about earlier, mike, drawing that contrast between what the administration believes in and has done with the maga republicans as he calls them. >> >> rethat's right and the political backdrop is important. when you think about a president seeking a second term, there's the question, is this campaign going to be a referendum on the incumbent's record or a choice between the republican and democratic candidate covering obama's reelection campaign, this is a choice, not a referendum how much time did we hear the president detailing item by item, policy by policy what his administration has accomplished so far in dealing with the climate crisis as he puts it this sets up a twist on the traditional framing of an election as a choice versus a
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referendum he has a very strong record to run on, that he's going to run on his record but that the record is only further accented by the fact that it's going to ultimately come down to a choice he's using congressional republicans as that foil, saying they would support continuing to provide tax subsidies for oil companies, and repeal some of his accomplishments and that frames the choice for voters about which side are you on. that rose garden strategy, a lot of what we're just seeing in the last few minutes is what we're seeing the president do in the coming months on a range of issues, especially as this fiscal battle with congressional republicans heats up over the debt ceiling in the coming weeks. >> mike memoli, thank you so much we'll continue to listen to the president, and get back to you if he does in the meantime, is actor alec baldwin in the clear we'll talk to someone who predicted this would happen from the very start u're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc n flings for the first time the other day... and forgot where she was.
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now the question is, what comes next legally in the "rust" movie set shooting new mexico prosecutors announced they're dropping all charges against actor alec baldwin in the fatal shooting of cinematographer halyna hutchins. prosecutors point to new facts that have surfaced in recent days shaq brewster is following this for us i also want to bring in criminal defense attorney and msnbc legal analyst, danny cevallos, who we should mention has been predicting this would happen from the very start. all right, danny, i want to talk about the new evidence they say they have. it really is something that alec baldwin has been talking about from the beginning i want to play something to remind folks of it. >> i didn't pull the trigger. >> you never pulled the trigger. >> i would never point a gun at someone and pull the trigger that was the training i had. >> now a source close to the investigation tells nbc that the
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prop gun had been modified, how is that the game changer or at least a game changer >> because it means the firearm didn't operate the way the prosecution said they believed it operated for the last year and a half and by the way, this is not what i consider new evidence. newly discovered evidence is a witness that comes out of the woodwork this is a firearm that the state had exclusive possession and custody of since the shooting for a year and a half. and here we are a year and a half in, and there's new evidence emerging about how a firearm operates you know, the empire state building down the street here was built in about a year and a month, and they took a year and a half and they still aren't entirely sure how this firearm operates they have had access to experts. they could have sent it to anyone they wanted to to examine it, and now here we are today, they have new information. it's made worse by the fact that they issued a statement, well, we might get more information, and we might charge baldwin again. as colonel sherman potter used
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to say, horse feathers they're not going to charge baldwin. i don't want to dare them to do it they might take me up on the dare this has been amateur hour and only supported by their statements. >> how i don't want to suggest that justice isn't equal, however, in a high profile case, and this has been high profile from the minute that gun was fired, how do you get to this point what do you think happened here? >> we have a word for it it's called tunnel vision. sometimes prosecutors get tunnel vision now, i'm a defense attorney, so that i can that with a block of salt i often say that prosecutors have tunnel vision when maybe they don't, in fairness. but this is a classic example. i expect prosecutors everywhere are as disappointed as i am in this prosecution you look no further than the state's own statements they issued where they said, and i'm paraphrasing, something to calling out baldwin and his legal team, the fancy pants from
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l.a. and hollywood types they made it obvious from the outset that this was a high profile trophy they wanted on their wall, and another piece of evidence in that direction is the fact that the first assistant director who arguably bore some responsibility for this tragedy, they gave him a deal right off the bat, why, and this is what i would have said in my closing, the reason they gave that person a deal is they had their eye on the real target, which is always alec baldwin from day one. >> shaq, where does this go from here, what about the charges against the armorer, hannah gutierrez-reed. >> next up is a status hearing taking place in two hours, just under two hours, that's where the charges or charge against alec baldwin will formally be dismissed. i guess clearly that's against alec baldwin, as far as hannah gutierrez-reed, the armorer, the weapons supervisor, the person who handed the weapon
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before before handing it, the involuntary manslaughter against her, that charge is still in place. prosecutors and her attorneys yesterday confirming as much i want to read a bit of the statement we heard from her attorneys that said this is all about the truth. her attorneys writing, the truth about what will happen will come out and questions that we have long sought answers for will be answered we expect at the end of this process that hannah will also been exonerated. meanwhile, there's truly a split screen moment happening because as this legal back and forth is taking place and as that hearing will be happening later this afternoon, we're learning from sources on the set of the rust production in montana now that alec baldwin is there, he's on set, he will be filming today, the day started with about 75 members of cast and crew there, it started with a speech that it started with a safety briefing this time around. truly a split screen moment that the movie and production of rust is still going forward as the legal process is still underway.
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>> does this decision for alec baldwin have any influence on what happens with hannah gutierrez-reed >> it does and it doesn't. now the state is breathing a sigh of relief because they don't have the full might of alec baldwin's legal team, a raid against them. the case against the armorer was more viable than the case against baldwin. she had at least primary responsibility what i expect might happen is that quietly in a few months from now, she may quietly walk into the courthouse and plead guilty to a lesser offense that's a possibility rather than go to trial. but baldwin should never have been charged in this case, and the problem, and this is the thing that worries me is that if it took prosecutors in this case, they asked for hundreds of thousands of dollars additionally to prosecute the most important case arguably in their office for some time i imagine and they can't figure out how to inspect and test a firearm in a year and a half, what about all the other firearms cases involving nobodies who don't have access
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to money for legal defenses in that jurisdiction. what's going on with those firearms cases how are those guns being tested? well, we may never know, and that's the biggest fear, and that's why we have conviction review units nowadays, wrongful convictions a real thing the state here initially charged alec baldwin with a crime that was a five-year mandatory minimum. a few months later they're saying, oops, everyone go their separate ways, but in order to save face, they issue a statement saying, hey, we could still charge him if something magical shows up well, i don't see any magic anytime soon >> danny cevallos, who's been right all along, as we said, shaq brewster, good to see you as always, my friend, good to see you both. the jury that will decide the landmark january 6th sedition case got its instructions ahead of closing arguments that are now scheduled for monday morning nbc's ryan reilly is at the courthouse in d.c. three months of testimony, ryan, i don't need to tell you that.
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this trial against enrique tarrio and four other members is entering the final stretch i understand things got interesting in the last 24 hours. bring us up to speed. >> reporter: that's right. what's one more day when you consider a three-month long trial. closing arguments are set finally to begin on monday this week, we did see some interesting developments during testimony from two defendants. zachary reel, the head of the philadelphia proud boys chapter, who prosecutors at the last moment received evidence from online suggesting that he was holding a can of pepper spray that he had pointed toward officers that's something they didn't see during the course of this two-yearlong investigation it was a last-minute addition, so that was sort of some surprising new evidence that we had introduced there at the last moment he of course said he could not recall whether or not he used pepper spray that day, which judge for yourself whether or not that's a credible answer whether he used pepper spray on
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an officer on the day of january 6th but that's what the jury is going to be going back there with is evidence that appears to show him holding an item toward an officer's body warn camera footage, and saying he doesn't recall that moment the other testimony came from dom dominic frizolla, the individual from new york, seen breaking the window of the capitol during the first siege a please shield. he took the stand and made comments and went on a rant about the trial, called these fake charges, said this was a phony trial. tried to sneak in a few lines and got heated on the stand under questioning from prosecutors. after three months we have a situation where they're going to be back and deciding next week, as soon as they get this case probably late monday, more likely on tuesday, is when they'll start deliberations. >> in other words, ryan reilly, don't go anywhere. appreciate the update.
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selfie i'm talking about the image of god painting on the sistine chapel ceiling at the vatican, and this new idea is that michelangelo secretly portrayed himself as god with his arm reaching out to give life to adam it's getting a lot of attention after an art curator at the college of william and mary published the theory, and it's gaining theme with italian renaissance scholars as well who have long theorized about the famed italian, michelangelo, sculptor, painter, and genius it says a lot about his well known ego, and sense of humor. talk about a god complex that's going to do it for us this hour. joining us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern, right here on msnbc. happy earth day tomorrow our coverage continues with "katy tur reports" right now
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good to be with you. i'm katy tur abortion has been a huge loser for republicans from a failed red wave in the midterms to a string of special election wins in straight up red districts reproductive restriction is not what the majority of americans want, and that is according to the polls and ballot box what will the next decision do to the next election cycle we are hours away from the supreme court's self-imposed deadline to rule on mifepristone it's the court's first major abortion-related ruling since roe was overturned a group of conservative organizations want the abortion pill banned and a judge nominated by donald trump, and known for his anti-abortion views agreed with him. what will the nine justices of the supreme court decide will they kick it back down, lift the stay or keep the stay, or decide to take up t

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