is happening right now >> dominic, thank you very much. and that wraps up the hour for me you can always reach me on twitter and instagram at jdbalart and thank you for the privilege of your time an trdrea mitchell picks it up. the supreme court resets the countdown clock on their abortion pill decision keeping the nation guessing and raising new questions over what is going on behind the scenes also this hour the debt ceiling drama escalates as speak are speak are mccarthy rolls out a plan that slashes biden programs >> we just rolled it out yesterday. we want you to write stories like i'm teetering whether i can win or not and the whole world hangs in the balance and then i want you to write a story after it passes would the president sit down and negotiate.

and one thing democrats and republicans can agree on, the classified briefings for bind intelligence officials from them landed with a thud with the intel community unable to provide clearance absences oo that 21-year-old was able to leak top secrets to his chat group. >> certainly wasn't satisfied with any plans that they have for the future >> too many people with access to too much information without safe guards. and i was left with more questions than answers i'm andrea mitchell. with the legal future of the most widely used abortion pill still in limbo the supreme court has pushed back its self imposed deadline until midnight tomorrow on whether or not to extend the

stay on lower court rulings that will severely limit access to the pill if the court fails to act or denies the stay, every dose would be pulled off the market because the labels would be misbranded adding to the legal problems ahead and battles, the drug maker behind a generic version has filed its own lawsuit against the fda seeking to block the administration from co complying if the court rules against the pill and so let's bring in our panel. laura, what is happening inside the court? i know we can't predict any court decisions, but this 48 hour delay is unusual. >> i think someone is writing and the question is just who and what do they want to say we know that the justices are scheduled to meet behind closed doors tomorrow for one of their

private conferences. and it is probably likely that this might come up and some negotiations are taking place behind the scenes. we just don't know but remember here, normally you would just see sort of a single line, stay granted, stay denied. but the court might want to say a little bit more given the stakes here, given how much attention is on this and the ramifications here they may have a little something to say >> and the manufacturer of the generic drug also getting involved alleging it is denied due process. and is this a whole new element that i wasn't aware of but the doj says it would cease to be approved all together because the fda did not approve it until 2019. so take it back. considering how complicated this is, could this be the another reason for the high court to hear the case itself or push it to the next term >> i do think that it

complicates the situation for the justices because they are seeing that any potential ruling with respect to a stay -- remember, this is coming up in an unusual posture, it is not coming up on the merits, it is coming up on this issue of whether it can stem the stay in an appeal from the department of justice to the court of appeals in fifth circuit i do think that it complicates the situation. you know, again, it is hard to as laura said, we don't know it certainly suggests that there are five votes for continuing a stay pending appeal on the merits but i think as laura correctly said, there may be enough justices that may want to write something to signal to the fifth circuit the court below which way that they would like to see this go. this is such an unusual case though that you can imagine even the justices who struck down roe

v. wade thinking that it didn't follow the right path and they won't want to be in the business of either for generic drug or the fda-approved drug mifepristone that they don't want to be in the business of deciding this kind of record and they can wait until it comes back to them potentially on the merits >> and could that even mean having an argument next fall >> yes, absolutely but the good news of that would be to have a stay and thus, you know, show many women not having their health at risk because of what i think was an incredibly irresponsible decision by a strict judge who engaged judicial activism which is usually what the right accuses the left of except when the right is doing it.

this isis such an outrageous decision overturning approval for a drug widely used to be safe and so this is one where they really at the supreme court court were not to say this, they are opening the door to many, many, many challenges, to all sorts of drugs, this is just the first of many that they would be opening the door to. and that kind of argument tends to go very far in the supreme court where they want to incrementally act and not upset the apple cart >> so cecile, the basis of the argument says that the drug is not safe but the possible unintended consequence here is that patients would be forced to take actually a dose three times higher than what the fda says is needed if it goes back to the 2016 guidelines.

this sounds crazy. >> it is, andrea and if we sitting on this panel can't even figure it out, can you imagine what women in america are thinking, that every day that their futures are being held by the supreme court? this case should have never been brought. obviously it was taken by a judge in amarillo, they judge shopped this to someone with known anti-abortion sentiments, someone with no medical or scientific training who has issued this opinion that somehow this drug even though it was approved for decades was improperly approved. i think this is why you are seeing now today the american medical association, the head of ama, writing a scathing editorial and of course not just the ama, but a dozen medical organizations saying this is completely irresponsible, allowing a judge without any

training to take a safe effective medication off the market for political reasons >> laura, cecile, andrew, just want to point out that according to the wires now the senate judiciary chairman is asking the chief justice to come and testify about supreme court ethics we'll have to get reporting on this but this is obviously raising the whole stakes on the clarence thomas controversy to a very high level indeed. thank you all very much. i hope, laura, this is not a real midnight deadline for you, for all of us, waiting for the court. and lawmakers meanwhile this both houses of congress from both sides of the aisle left classified briefings on the pentagon documents leak completely frustrated, angry in fact about how a 21-year-old international guards man had access to top secret

information. and the la of solutions and explanations they claim at least from the biden administration. >> i'm not sure at least in the time i was in there, i certainly wasn't satisfied with any plans that they have in place to prevent it from happening in the future so takes problem and the damage is already real. >> there are a whole host of questions here senator rubio and i have made a request from the intel side. we want thorough review of all these activities and clearly there will be some changes. >> and ken today laniae delanis joining me now and they are angry and they wrote a letter with ten questions that they wanted ans answered they had been happy in the past up until the mar-a-lago documents that weren't shared and now they have been shared,

but it took months and months to get it from doj. so just a lot of tension here. >> i spoke to an aide that it is believed that people may have died result of the leaks ukrainian soldiers for example >> that is the first i've heard that sgla . >> exactly and more questions to be asked but they are taking it seriously and they are not happy with the answers or lacks answers and it may be just because the pentagon themselves doesn't have answers to the questions of for example how were the documents printed out, wasn't it logged, did anyone else fail do their job. there is a pretty big investigation going on jack teixeria that may not be the only person who faces some kind of accountability. >> and yesterday we spoke to jeremy bash who was the pentagon chief of staff and he said that there is really no way with the millions of people in the military to do bag checks or,

you know, spot check people when they are leaving ft. hood which is bigger than some american states >> yeah, i spoke to the former top counterintelligence official in the government who said the same thing we can't search everybody. but there were reports that people were searched coming out of pentagon yesterday. at the end of the day, this is a matter of trust. but there are questions about whether for example people who hold top secret security clearances thoo ashould allow te government to monitor their private social media a big step but one that people are talking about. >> ken, thank you for your reporting on this. joining me now is congressman who is chair of the problem solvers caucus and this is a problem to solve >> true. >> this leak story is growing by

leaps and bounds every day there are more likes and a wider impact, the administration trying to down play it, but foreign leaders and foreign officials are telling me that they have really major concerns, they have really upset by what they see as sloppiness >> i think that you are seeing bipartisan outrage which i think is the right reaction. whether why we're trying to get to the bottom of how this could happen, how that airmen can get to the documents and print them and leave the facility with those documents. when i go to the skiff and a security space, you can't leave with the documents what we see on the intelligence committee or it is compartmentalized in a secure area and you don't walk out with it and there is no reason why and this is what we need better answers on but the bottom line is it is

worthy of a deep investigation to up and get to the bottom of what happened and prevent it from what happened again >> a couple things have been raised to we really have a major o overclassification problem and to we have to revisited post-9/11 commission reforms that eliminated a lot of barriers to intel sharing that would perhaps compartmentalize some of these documents so that the guy in cape cod doesn't need to know what the foreign leader of egypt or korea is saying. >> and that is part of the question who has access to what and why do you need it and in this case specifically, trying to understand that, though we know this has been an issue in other administrations now and we've got to get to the bottom of that and put in reforms if necessary those are the kind of questions that we have for the intelligence committee, the kind of questions that we're asking we're getting interest answers to it will take time. but the bottom line is this, we know this was unacceptable if as you pointed out, it is

these -- the intelligence is critical for our allies. it could be a matter of life and death in instances and so we have to be very careful. >> let's turn to the debt limit, as though you don't have enough problems, but you are the problem solvers caucus so you released a one page outline, a proposed framework to temporarily suspend the debt ceiling. wouldn't that just kick the can down the road and have it come up again right as we get into the heart of the presidential primary campaign >> it actually says first let's take the debt ceiling issue off the table, suspend it so it is not a factor, we won't default because putting the united states at risk is totally unacceptable it not only gives our enemies fodder but it puts peoples' savings and the pensions and economy at risk. and then it says let's start an independent commission that would look at everything dealing on long term fiscal

health because i believe that we can do both. and they will come back with recommendations at the end of the 2024 for a vote up or down in february 2025 so it gives a long runway to allow for this commission to come back with serious recommendations and consider everything and we believe that is the best way forward. what we can't do is play political games with the full faith and credit of our country. >> and i know you have to go for some official travel, but the treasury won't go along with that, the markets won't go along with that, that is a band aid >> it says for 18 months or so, we're actually not playing games every week and risking the summer and weeks literally putting the debt and paying our bills at risk and going off a fiscal cliff and so the commission can come

back and look at every aspect of what we need to do we think it is responsible we have 64 members of congress behind it, it says let's stop playing games and let's sit at the table and actually work out our budget and our long term fiscal health. those are the questions we should be having, not playing games with the debt ceiling which is not something that we should ever mess around with >> okay, thank you very much to be continued for sure and as we heard congress is getting ready for the fight over the debt ceiling debate one more time we'll have more on that coming up

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speaker mccarthy's standoff appears to be heading nowhere. the speaker introducing a bill that would raise the borrowing cap by about $1.5 trillion it also cuts the president's student debt forgiveness plan, claws back pandemic aid and drastically slacks other programs to not even keep pace with inflation it is not clear whether mccarthy has the votes to pass it, but it would also likely need democrats to get it over the finish line and chuck schumer says it won't pass the senate. and xgarrett haake pressed the speaker on that. >> chuck schumer won't put anything that you pass on deck

>> no? what did you have, 32 democrats over here, so they are not for a clean debt ceiling if you look, the pandemic it over it passed the house, the senate, the president signed it, so why wouldn't we save the taxpayers money. >> president biden dismissed the proposal in remarks in maryland. >> maga officials are pushing for more tax giveaways to the wealthiest i want to make sure that the trump tax cut that he passed in his last term, only term, for -- i didn't mean it that way. >> joining me now is nbc news correspondent garrett haake. this is obviously a big test for the speaker. republicans can afford about four defections.

does he have the votes to pass we know it has no future in the senate so i guess the point is just to make a political point >> yeah, i think that is mostly right. no, he doesn't have the votes to pass it as we stand here, but that is not the goal they will try to put it on the floor next week, but even as votes were breaking up today, we saw groups of republican lawmakers huddling off the floor to go over some of the finer points including some of the language about work requirements for example for things like medicaid that could be one of the sticking points. as folks start to think about this package that we'll be discussing in the next week, the people who were behind mccarthy and the speakership fight are not likely his problem here. he far right has given the most maga aligned membership what they want in this bill the people who he has to worry about are the more moderate members who may have won in places like new york state or swing districts elsewhere in the country who don't want to necessarily walk the plank on a bill that makes some of the

spending cutsthat you see on the screen here for a bill that won't become law and that is the other key thing to understand. this bill won't become law it is for the probably even intended if you gave kevin mccarthy truth sear rrum to bec law. he wants to make president biden refusing to edge gauge with him in any kind of negotiations appear likes unreasonable member of this duo. and do that, to put the ball into president biden's court, he has to prove that he can pass this, which we'll find out next week >> garrett haake, fun and games up there, thank you very much. joining us now, washington bureau chief susan page, doug

hyde and jerome daniels. welcome all. and what is the game plan here as garrett laid out, it is to have a baseline to go into negotiations and say, you know, i've shown you i mean, what is krours and of course the biden plan is a clean sdet kreelging which is other republican and democratic speakers have been able to pass. >> a whole lot of politics you start with the republican internal politics where it started with the freedom caucus saying that kevin mccarthy couldn't do anything on his own and has given to a lot of those members. he actually did do this, this is not regular order one issue at a time meanwhile he has a problem for moderates who we often hear about the moderates flex their models but usually having worked in the house, they don't know where the gym is much less how to flex their muscles. so this is a testing point and then if they pass that, we get into the more external

politics of republicans versus democrats the usual game >> and of course there is the markets. and as this gets closer and closer to a deadline and i don't think that any of us think that the problem solvers will be able to kick it down -- kick the can town the oweddown the road for have a commission, that is what budget committees are supposed to do. >> and commissions in washington are a way to delay taking action i think what might hope involving the markets is a t.a.r.p. like experience you remember when the bank bailout went down in 2008 and the markets tanked and it forced congress to do action that it did not want to do it may take something like that, a near death experience like that, to get the debt ceiling debate finished in a way that protects our good faith and credit >> and eugene, republicans today also passed a transgender sports ban for schools. this is red meat for the base,

but it will be vetoed if it got through the senate meanwhile they are not doing anything about guns or a lot of other issues >> i don't think that it will get picked up in the democratically held senate and you're right, president biden has already made it clear that he would veto that. and this is red meat, something that they know that won't be passed, something that republicans have been doing for months and months, years now, trying to find -- you talk to democrats and also lgbtq activists and advocates, they would say this is using transpeople as both a cudgel and also a boogeyman of america talking about it, looking at them as so different they point you to how gay people were villainized for years and this is another layer of that, right? and this was a concern that folks had after things that

narrowly went through and everyone is kind of used to it, like what is the next thing. and most importantly, i think that they are worried about the numbers, these vast numbers, disproceed portioe portionate n people who either kill he themselves or are scared living in this country as folks try to pass bills like this and so it will be interesting how the politics plays out in general elections. people don't topically have gone to the ballots in strong ways against transgender people, that is something republicans are try doing but it doesn't seem like it will try to work. so how they do that as it moves forward in a presidential when they hang the republican party as extremists and this issue in particular >> and sue san, i don't know if you have a take on how it plays

in a general election. unlike other cultural issues like ron desantis is trying to play up in florida, this issue, i'm not sure it has the constituency >> and we know how powerful the abortion issue will be in the next election in a way that is not helpful for republicans. and the debate over transgender people is something that is still developing in this country. people are trying to if i out what they think, what is the right thing to do. but our attitudes toward people of different sexual orientations or differences along those lines has changed in fundamental ways. remember how gay marriage was a big issue that helped elect george w. bush that is totally flipped now. the country is in favor of gay marriage that debate is over. this debate i think is still going on >> another civil rights issue that is just beginning to emerge in general political conversation at least.

a quick question to you, doug, about the senate judiciary committee wanting to talk to the chief justice of the supreme court basically about clarence thomas, about the ethics issue does it have legs? >> certainly politically it will have legs. it is a conversation we've been talking about clarence thomas specifically for a long time the chief justice has been invited, doesn't mean that he has been compelled and it doesn't mean that he will show up i think that it is unlikely that he does. but i think it will be something we will all focus on and what are the actual ethics rules or lack thereof within the supreme court? are there other members who have gone on similar trips? there are eight other justices that we may have similar justices about >> a big loophole for those kind of trips if you know the person i think the real issue will come down to the house, purchase of the house by the family home, the renovation, the mother still

living there and that is a requirement for disclosure >> and the ambiguity around what rules govern supreme court justices and of course political actions of his wife, also the subject of ferocious discussion. >> to be continued also. >> and this just has the problem solvers all over it. >> thank you great to see you all survivor stories inside ukraine. the top prosecutor in ukraine in d.c. to tell congress about the evil he joins us next with downy infusions, let the scent set the mood. feel the difference with downy. asking the right question can greatly impact your future. - are, are you qualified to do this?

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violence is escalating and courtney kube is joining me now. there has been failed cease fires day after day, persistent violence and so that clearly led to this decision >> and we saw a u.s. convoy that came under attack earlier this week and that seemed to push the buttons here that have encouraged the pentagon to move these troops forward so according to a number of defense official, they will be stations them in east africa we doo don't have a lot of details, but the military will be preparing for every possible scenario. americans like you mentioned who

may be there stuck sheltering in place as this violence continues day after day in khartoum and beyond the u.s. military is preparing for multiple scenarios at this point according to the defense officials. most likely scenario is that they would use what is a marine air ground combat aviation element. these are marines who i'm sure you remember this after the attack in benghazi, they set up the quick reaction forces based around the region. one known as crisis response and they have the ability to quickly react in cases like this where americans are in danger and need to be evacuated out of a hostile environment. most likely those will be the forces that will be brought in we know that there are several hundred marines that are already in gentthere to provide a groun

element and logistics forces it is all developing but so far the troops would come out of jabudi >> thank you so much obviously a very dangerous situation. meanwhile in ukraine, top crimes prosecutor has told the u.s. lawmakers that russian forces are using rape and information chur to sow fear in ukrainians and testifying, he said take there are nearly 80,000 cases of war crimes since moscow invaded and also testifying with her back to the camera to protect her identity, a 57-year-old woman describing what the russian military did when they came for her in january.

>> translator: and then they took me to the torture chamber and kept me there for five days. this was terrible. i was beaten forced me to undress cutting my body with a knife and threatening to rape and kill me. >> and joining me now is the prosecutor general of ukraine. we just heard from that survivor, her testimony. rape has been used as a weapon of war it is a war crime under international conventions. will there ever be accountability for what is happening to the people of ukraine? >> we strongly stand united with our partners, united states and other countries of civilized world to ensure full account ability for all war crimes committed by russians on un

ukrainian land including sexual violence and rape. it was first time that the survivors of this crime testified before u.s. congress in committee hearings which were held yesterday and it is important for american members of congress and for american nation to hear, to see them at the firsthand survivors and witnesses of war crimes, committed. we are currently investigating more than 170 incidents of sexual violence where the victims and survivors are not only women but also men, not only girls but also boys and we are committed to prosecute all of these cases, self these cases are already brought to ukrainian force with one person already convicted for these crimes >> and you are getting help.

you did visit with the attorney general. are you getting enough help from the u.s. because he is sending lawyers to kyiv to be on hand at the embassy full-time. and he was this kyiv this march i think. he was there last summer is that cooperation working for you? >> you know, i'm grateful for merrick garland and the doj and all of our partners here for unprecedented level of support sending the officer of the doj to the embassy of the united states and kyiv will help us to have a direct contact with all institutions with regard to the investigation and prosecution of war crimes and in addition, the attorney general announced deployment of prosecutor to the international center of the other crimes offing aof offof aggression in the make which

will investigate crimes of putin and his surrounding. if crime of aggression would not have been committed, there would not be 80,000 incidents of war crimes including those with victims and survivors of which were testifying yesterday before u.s. congress. >> do you think that vladimir putin will ever be held to account? there is an arrest warrant issued by the international criminal court, by the hague but what is the likelihood that he would ever stand trial? >> you know, our traask is to prepare everything, prepare cases and collect evidence and prepare strong cases against top leaders of russia who initiated the war of aggression and who are orchestrating all types of war crimes against ukrainians. we have no time to think about whether it will happen or not that putin may appear at the i6ic

krcht and the hague. but history says that our top kriz advis advisers were young prosecutors. and they told me they never imagined had they started this war that war criminals will appear before the tribunal but this happened. and so we need to do our job and history will help us to hold putin accountable for all the war crimes committed >> more broadly, do you worry that as the war continues, and into its send year now, that war of attrition will work against ukraine, that russia can outlast you and that you will begin to lose european support? >> you know, everything here in united states shows that support is wider, broader and i'm very

optimistic about the support that will be long lasting as much as we will need it. and we'll know that to receive -- to ensure the matter of justice for all victims and survivors of war crimes, we will need more time even after war will be ended we believe with our victory, we will need more time to find everyone and hold them accountable but we stand together and i'm very optimistic. my meetings yesterday at the hill, my meetings with members of congress and senate, shows that all of our partners are committed to stand with us we actually when discussing yesterday the resolutions which we'll hhavebi camera oig and bipartisan support, there is a resolution of creation of special international tribunal against crime of aggression. and it is important to discuss the global address, the risks

which we face because of the activity of the wagner group there is a resolution to name wagner group as international terrorism organization because it is -- it is working it is active in different countries. in africa, even in caribbean now earning illegal money which they use, you know, in order to fight against ukraine on the battlefield and also representatives of the wagner group, they commit a lot of other war crimes against our prisoner support and civilians on the occupied territory. and this response against the wagner group should be global and i believe united states will be standing with us in order to put an end to the activity of this international terrorism organization >> andre, thank you so much about. >> thank you

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simple car mixup and the 18-year-old seen practicing her routine here is in a hospital and instead of preparing for her final competition after having her spleen removed >> it is extremely tough she's one of the best athletes in this entire all star cheerleading world she's amazing. she's a fighter. she's going to come sout and be good, but it's just unfortunate that this happened and it kind of -- it took away her opportunity to compete at the world championships. and in missouri, the man who shot ralph yarl, the black teenager who just rang his doorbell pleading not guilty in court yesterday. nbc news correspondent maggie vespa joins us from liberty, missouri bring us up to speed on these new details we're learning from the kansas city shooting and the one in texas >> sure, andrea, we'll start here at the kansas city area we're in liberty because that's the courthouse where andrew lester pleaded not guilty

yesterday. he spoke very softly he walked with a cane. the judge ordered him among other things to turn over all weapons to law enforcement as a condition of his $200,000 bond, which he posted earlier this week, and lester said he would comply with all of those orders. to be clear, his not guilty plea doesn't mean that he denies shooting 16-year-old ralph yarl one week ago today, when yarl rang his doorbell. andrew lester says that the reason he shot the black teenager, at least according to court documents, he told detectives that he thought he was acting in self-defense he told detectives in those documents that he saw a black male about 6 feet tall ring the doorbell, and then he says -- and this is key -- jiggle the door handle. he thought someone was trying to break in he said he was quote, scared to death and that's why he fired. yarl's family says absolutely not. this is a 16-year-old boy looking to pick up his younger brothers the criminal case moving forward gradually. then down to texas, another major shooting we're following, where seemingly just a teenager

made an innocent mistake, payton washington as you said in the intensive care unit. her father telling us that she was shot while wearing her cheerleading uniform this after he says she just tried to mistakenly get into the wrong car in a grocery store parking lot. she was driving with friends she got out of the friend's car, told her friends good-bye. got into what she thought was her own car. and the suspect, pedro telles rodriguez got out of the car shooting payton and another one of her friends she's in critical but stable condition. rodriguez is charged with deadly conduct in the state of texas. that is a third degree felony. everybody kind of painting a picture of who news teenagers are, who both by the way, miraculously survived these shootings. we're hearing that payton was getting ready to train for that world competition. her dad said now instead of training and competing with her friends, she's in the hospital fighting for her life.

andrea. >> maggie vespa, thank you so much two terrible cases. and the big fail, will the latest spacex rocket attempting to break earth's orbit instead ending up in what the company calls rapid scheduled disassembly, what happened that's next on "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. .. and forgot where she was. [buzz] you can always spot a first timer. you need to deliver oxi new apps fastreze.

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the most powerful rocket ever built has exploded in the air less than four minutes into

flight the explosion happened during this morning's unmanned test flight of the spacex star ship rocket, which will eventually carry nasa astronauts to the moon thankfully, of course, no one on the ground was hurt. tom costello covers space is and aviation for nbc news. tom, so sp spacex they say this test flight is still a major milestone. what did elon musk say give me that quote again. >> listen, you have to -- we all take great -- we all take great delight in the rocket terminology, rocket scientists and what they call this. this wasn't an explosion this was a rapid unscheduled disassembly before separation. that's what spacex said. >> i would call that a euphemism. >> right we've all had those mornings, right, a rapid unscheduled disassembly. >> i feel disassembled today >> well, listen, the bottom line is you're right, this was an explosion four minutes into launch, and elon musk is saying, well, it could have been worse,

which is true. he's suggesting we should be taking the success where there is success they got off the pad they got four minutes into flight all of that's good because you don't want to have an explosion on the pad per se, right then you wouldn't have the pad to come back to. so what they now got to figure out is why did this rocket completely dissemble why did it not stay intact now, this is a -- as you mentioned, the biggest rocket, most powerful ever built it's also the most complicated, 33 engines, and as it was going up, i actually -- and i'm no rocket scientist i thought, that doesn't look quite right. something looked a little strange, and in fact, we now believe that several of those engines were not properly firing they've got to do a diagnostic, figure out what's going on elon musk is saying they'd like to try again in a few months they need to try again because this is a critical rocket for nasa to use to take astronauts to the moon and maybe someday to mars. >> wow, not good news. >> it's not good news. listen, as i said earlier on our sister network news now, spacex

and nasa have both had a lot of rocket failures. that's how you learn, right? and you can't argue with success and spacex has had an awful lot of success. >> thank you, tom, as always >> appreciate that >> you bet and let's talk about the time line another time, the time line for getting to the moon >> i think that's in question now. they had wanted to land on the moon in 2025 i think that's in doubt because of this. at the earliest, late '25. we'll see. >> we'll be waiting. and thanks, that does it for us for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." remember to follow the show online on facebook and twitter @mitchellreports "chris jansing reports" starts right now. ♪ >> good day. i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. in the haunting and heartbreaking words of andrew gillis, his daughter kaylin shot

and killed while riding in a car. quote, i would have never dreamed in a million years this would happen that is what's happening now in america. just two devastating new examples, young victims doing everyday things, playing basketball in the driveway or sitting on a bench, then shot. both of them among the 99 shootings across america on tuesday and wednesday alone. ch plus, earlier today, house republicans considered passing a bill that would ban transgender athletes from competing against women. what it means for athletes and for politics in 2023. and the spacex starship, the most powerful rocket ever built explodes and crashes to earth just four minutes into its maiden flight. so why was everyone cheering we'll explain coming up. but we start with new additions to the unrelenting depravity of senseless shootings plaguing this country. the ones we told you about yesterday sparked by innocent mistakes the ones today targeting people fo