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and that's a function of capacity and very deep demand in this economy people are raring to get out and see the world. >> fridays are eat dinner out night at my house. i love to go out to eat. we just got this report from the labor department this week showing restaurant prices have outpaced grocery prices for the first time since inflation began rising in mid-2021 or so why do you think this is we only have 30 seconds. >> they know how much more an omlette costs to make last year and it's brutally difficult to get people to show up and work tables or the kitchen or short order cooks even for $15 an hour those menu costs, how much can you pass them down and tipflation at the tip counter. so it's brutally difficult to run a restaurant in this day and age. >> thanks for helping us make some sense of it and ending the show on a high note. thank you all for being with us
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today. see you back here monday, same time, same place, 10:00 a.m. eastern. until then, i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now good morning it's 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific any minute now attorney general merrick garland is expected to make a major announcement about charges against dozens of mexican drug cartels leaders and members. also the suspect in the biggest leak of military intelligence in decades appeared in court last hour what we're learning about how the suspected leaker got access to the classified documents. and breaking just moments anegotiation the legal battle over the abortion pill headed to the supreme court. and we are live in south florida where officials are assessing millions of dollars in damage from massive flooding after historic 26-inch rainfall. and we begin this hour with breaking news out of the
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department of justice. there you see the podium set up. two senior law enforcement officials tell nbc news that the doj will announce charges against more than two dozen mexican drug cartel members and leaders. more than two dozen. some of whom are already in custody. joining us now is nbc's gabe gutierrez, also with us is retired general barry mccaffrey who was, among other things, the director of the office of national drug control policy under president clinton as we await this press conference to begin. as soon as it does, we'll go right to it, but, gabe, what can we expect this morning >> reporter: as you said, according to two senior law enforcement officials, we're hearing that more than two dozen cartel members and leaders will now face charges, but it is unclear at this point, jose, how many of them are in custody. we understand several of them are. but this press conference will highlight the ongoing efforts that target the sinaloa and cjng
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cartels. that is one of the most brutal cartels that we've been speaking with with the dea for years. they have said that it is their number one priority at this point, jose. so again, as we await for the attorney general to come out, we understand that the doj and the dea are now charging more than two dozen cartel members, jose. >> general, give us an idea of just how global these cartels are. >> well, jose, that's the key. inside mexico, this vitally important country to us in every manner, economically, politically, people-to-people relationships are intense, they're vital to our labor force in the united states but 25% of the country is under control of the cartels and they
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remain a principal organized crime entity throughout the united states. they're brutal with the mexican population and increasingly present in every one of the major american cities and international. they're now flooding europe, africa, the middle east, russia with cocaine so it's a huge deal. i'm proud to see that the department of justice is moving so strongly against them >> general, there are multi-national institutions and also widespread in what they traffic in from fentanyl to cocaine to heroin to human smuggling, human exploitation it seems as if there is no crime that they're not involved with >> well, no question and they have got such enormous resources. they can overwhelm, you know, texas or arizona or new mexico or california border law enforcement agencies they can hire international legal firms and public relations
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firms. they corrupt legislative bodies throughout the world so they are not to be underestimated the president of mexico, this goofy policy of thugs not bullets has gotten out of control. so increasingly now he's turning to the mexican armed forces to enforce domestic law with some predictable challenges there it's one of the top concerns facing the united states, organized cartel crime in mexico and its impact upon the american people >> and, gabe, you were talking about those two -- not necessarily the largest, but the two most influential cartels, including tone, these are extremely, extraordinarily brutal and just criminal
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organizations. >> yeah, that's right, jose. many of our viewers might be familiar with el chapo well, when el chapo was taken into custody several years ago, in 2016, i believe, there was a vacuum of power. for years federal authorities have been going after el mencho. he is now known as the leader of cjng as you see there, for years the dea has been offering a $10 million reward for his capture some dea officials that i've spoken with have compared some of the tactics of cjng to isis in terms of their brutality. they are notorious for posting videos of murders in mexico online to strike fear into the hearts of their rival cartels. this is something the dea has been going after for quite some time i can tell you, jose, the u.s. is announcing a deal with mexico
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mexico is now supposed to crack down on labs and smuggling in its country because many of the materials for the fentanyl trade come from china. in exchange for that, the u.s. will do more to stop the flow of guns into mexico so this is an ongoing negotiation between the two countries, which have a long history of tense discussions over the drug trade. but again, renewed push to go after cjng which dea says is responsible fortunes of meth and fentanyl flowing into the u.s. each month, jose. >> general, the entire national security staff of the mexican president was talking about fentanyl and these issues among other things what do you make of the cooperation or lack of it between mexico and the united states when it comes to issues like illegal drugs
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>> it's always difficult to understand it. just underscore the nature of the threat to the united states, we had over 107,000 americans died of drug overdose. two-thirds of them caused by opiates, primarily fentanyl. fentanyl is manufactured in mexico with ingredients, as gabe said, they come out of china the mexican president said, no, we don't have any of this in our country. so it's a policy of denial, of threats to the mexican people. we simply have to crack down on it we've got to force cooperation and we need to reinforce the border law enforcement agencies with federal money these local sheriffs in counties along the border can't even pay for, you know, the morpeople dyg
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out in the desert. they're also running human operations people coming from central america, venezuela so the mexican cartels are a principal threat to the united states and our security. >> indeed. as we see somebody coming out with papers, we don't know when this press conference is going to happen. it was supposed to happen about eight minutes ago. but i can tell you, general, and gabe gutierrez, i thank you very much should we listen in? let's listen in real quick >> we ask that you please share those wanted reward posters. they'll be updated today and throughout the week in both english and spanish. there will be a few of the fugitives in mandarin and this is the two-minute warning. >> okay. so with a two-minute warning, gabe gutierrez, and barry
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mccaffrey, i would ask you to stay with us we're going to take break. as a matter of fact, let's take a 60-second break. and when we come back, we'll come back to this and a whole lot more you're watching jose diaz-balart reports. -can't hear you, jerry. -sorry. uh, yeah, can we get a system where when someone's bike is in the shop, then we could borrow someone else's? -no! -no! or you can get a quote with america's number-one motorcycle insurer and maybe save some money while you're at it. all in favor of that. [ horn honking ] there's a lot of buttons and knobs in here.
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we are back, as we were just having this conversation, just literally a minute ago, as you can see there, the podium is set up at the department of justice. we're expecting attorney general merrick garland to come out any second now to talk about u.s. plans to target and continue targeting mexican drug cartels with us, gabe gutierrez and general barry mccaffrey. general, i think it's extraordinary to think about the influence and the impact that these cartels have not only in mexico but throughout the world. let's go to the attorney general.
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>> good morning. i'm joined today by deputy attorney general monaco, u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york williams, acting u.s. attorney for the northern district of illinois pass kwaul, u.s. attorney for the southern district of california grossman. fbi associate director turner and i.c.e. acting deputy director lechlightner. today the justice department is announcing significant enforcement actions against the largest, most violent and most prolific fentanyl trafficking operation in the world that operation is run by the sinaloa cartel and fueled by chinese precursor chemical and pharmaceutical companies the justice department is attacking every aspect of the cartel's operations. we have charge d suppliers in china who sell fentanyl precursors to the cartel
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a guatemalan based broker who purchases them on behalf of the cartel officers of the clandestine labs where the cartel manufactures fentanyl the weapons supplier who smuggles arms into mexico from the united states. leaders from the cartel's security forces who terrorize communities. money launderers who enail the cartel to fund their operations and the cartel's leaders known as the chipitos who are sons of the now imprisoned former head of the cartel known as el chapo. eight of those defendants are now in the custody of our international partners we will be seeking their extradition to the united states to face charges in federal court and we will be working closely with our partners and the government of mexico to seek the extradition of other defendants. the united states government is using every tool at its disposal to combat the fentanyl epidemic.
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the prc government must stop the unchecked flow of fentanyl precursor chemicals that are coming out of china. earlier this morning the treasury department announced sanctions against two chinese companies and five related individuals for their roles in the sale of fentanyl precursor chemicals from china to the sinaloa cartel four of those individuals are defendants in this case. before we provide further details on these actions against the sinaloa cartel, i want to explain why we took them families and communities across our country are being devastated by the fentanyl epidemic from august 2021 to august 2022, 107,735 people died of drug overdoses in the united states two-thirds of those deaths involved synthetic opioids, primarily fentanyl between 2019 and 2021, fatal
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overdoses in america increased by over 94% with an estimated 196 americans dying every day from fentanyl poisoning. these statistics are horrifying. but they do not begin to capture the reality of the loss that so many families carry with them every day because of the fentanyl epidemic. many of us have heard the stories of those who have lost loved ones to fentanyl poisoning. in the face of unimaginable pain, those families have shown extraordinary bravery in sharing their stories. we are grateful to them. we know that nothing can repair the harm they have suffered or bring back the loved ones that they have lost, but all of usa the justice department are committed to honoring their loved ones' memories and we are doing everything in our power and using every
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authority we have to bring those responsible to justice as outlined in an indictment unsealed today in the southern district of new york, the sinaloa cartel is largely responsible for the surge of fentanyl into the united states over the last eight years. that surge is the result of a complex and comprehensive fentanyl manufacturing and trafficking network orchestrated by the cartel and depicted on the screens above. first, a cartel associate brokers the sale and shipment of fentanyl precursor chemicals, principally from china, to clandestine labs in mexico where the fentanyl is manufactured those labs are guarded by cartel security forces who brutalized and terrorized mexican communities. from the labs, cartel traffickers move fire dep department -- fentanyl into the united states where it is sold wholesale to other
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organizations. before resale, those organizations often mix fentanyl powder into other drugs such as cocaine and heroin they also often sell fentanyl pills as counterfeit prescription pain medications. as a result, many americans are unaware that they are purchasing and being poisoned by fentanyl finally, money launderers working with the cartel ensure that the profits from these deadly sales get back to the cartel the charges unsealed today demonstrate the comprehensive approach the justice department is taking to disrupt the entire fentanyl trafficking ecosystem the 23 defendants we have charged in this indictment represent each stage of the movement, manufacturing and sale of deadly fentanyl from start to finish as alleged in the indictment, two of the defendants, ivan guzman salazar and jesus alfredo
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guzman salazar are leaders in the cartel alongside ovidio salazar lopez who will be charged in a separate indictment also unsealed for his real in his trafficking activities for the cartel the indictments describe in detail how the sinaloa cartel operates without respect for human rights, for human life, or the rule of law. for example, two of the defendants tested the potency of the cartel's fentanyl on individuals who were tied down they had experimented with a man they had been ordered to shoot instead they injected her with fentanyl until she overdosed and died after an addict died testing a batch of the fentanyl, one of the defendants sent the batch to the united states anyway as described in the indictment, the chipitos security forces attack law enforcement, intimidate civilians, destroy
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unsupportive businesses, and capture contested territory. they often torture and kill their victims. they have fed some of their victims dead and alive to tigers belonging to the chipitos. in another example, we allege that four defendants were responsible for capturing, torturing and killing mexican law enforcement officers one of the officers was tortured for two hours before he was shot by ivan guzman salazar u.s. attorney williams, acting u.s. attorney pascual and u.s. attorney grossman will explain other court filings unsealed today in the southern district of new york and the northern district of illinois related to the sinaloa cartel a separate indictment charmging one of the leaders of the cartel's security forces is also be unsealed in the district of columbia the cases we are announcing
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today exemplify the comprehensive approach the justice department is taking to disrupt and hold accountable those who bear significant responsibility for the fentanyl epidemic and all of the agencies represented here today exemplify the whole of government commitment the united states is making to that effort. the entire justice department from the dea to the fbi to our litigating divisions and across all 94 of our u.s. attorneys' offices is working to keep fentanyl out of our communities and hold accountable the cartels and their members and associates who put it there 2022, the dea together with our federal, state and local law enforcement partners seized more than 50.6 million fentanyl-laced fake prescription pills. that is more than double the amount seized in 2021. the dea has also seized more than 10,000 pounds of fentanyl
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powder together, these seizures represent more than 379 million potentially deadly doses of fentanyl that much fentanyl could kill every single american. we are also putting our resources to work to combat the public health challenges of addiction and substance abuse by supporting prevention and treatment programs the cases we are announcing today represent an enormous amount of work from across the department i particularly want to recognize the dea and fbi agents who do difficult and dangerous work every day alongside our local partners to disrupt drug trafficking. and i want to recognize the department's criminal division, including its office of international affairs and its narcotics and dangerous drug section as well as the u.s. attorney's offices for the southern district of new york, the northern district of illinois and the southern district of california for their
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extraordinary effort on these cases. we are also grateful for the support of our colleagues at the department of state, department of treasury, and department of homeland security. and i want to express our gratitude to the many mexican service members and law enforcement officers who have bravely put their lives on the line to combat the cartels in their country. >> we're hearing attorney general merrick garland recapping pretty extraordinary bit of information that he has been giving us this morning right here live on msnbc this is such an important issue, you know i want to bring back gabe gutierrez and retired general barry mccaffrey. general, so much here and on so many different levels, from going after chinese pharmaceutical companies that are providing the law materials for fentanyl, to people in guatemala that are using that to
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transport it into mexico general, what's your reaction to this >> well, the attorney general has pulled together such a comprehensive approach we have to remind ourselves of the integrity of the drug enforcement administration all of law enforcement is involved in it from county sheriff's departments to city police efforts but at the top of it is the dea and it is incredibly dangerous work the people they are confronting actually have power equivalent to a state government. in mexico, the drug cartels operate in battalion-sized units. they have anti-aircraft guns they have successfully confronted the mexican army and run them out of town in major
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battles. so this is not, you know, people pushing pot in downtown l.a. these people are a major threat to mexican sovereignty, never mind the security of the united states so i'm glad to see the attorney general facing up to it. it's going to require resources. and we have to stand behind our state and local law enforcement agencies on the border he also mentioned drug prevention and rehabilitation. we've gone soft on the drug issue. we're tolerant of it we are not anywhere near the capability and drug treatment that's required. you know, who knows, there's probably 18 million americans out of 330 million who have a chronic substance abuse problem. we've got to face up to that and deal with it they are a continuing source of crime, of workplace violence, of family destruction and we need a drug prevention
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message. a lot of these kids getting killed are poisoned by pills they have no idea fentanyl is involved but we've been way too tolerant of a drug culture in the united states which is growing. >> gabe, all of this to the advantage of these cartels in mexico, which as the general is pointing out, these aren't corner neighborhood drug pushers, these are multi-global corporations that are rooted in blood and violence and the destruction. just under the years, more than 100,000 mexicans have been killed. >> reporter: yeah, that's right, jose the attorney general mentioned that el chapo's funds are part of the sweeping indictment as you said, these charges range across the globe those companies that are involved in china, the treasury department announcing sanctions against some of those and also a broker in guatemala and arms
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dealers here in the u.s. but something i also found interesting, jose, and it speaks to the challenge of fighting illegal drug trafficking, according to the attorney general, only eight suspects are in custody at this time. some of these charges, they're still looking for some of those suspects and it can be very, very tough to do, not impossible, given the logistic challenges of this drug trade. but the breaking news of the charges against the sinaloa cartel some of the stats hard to hear, 196 americans dying from fentanyl overdoses in the u.s. each day, a huge problem. >> it is indeed. el chapo's sons are on the target of the united states. officially el chapo has 15 sons, official count so that family business has a
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lot of growth potential. gabe gutierrez and general mccaffrey, thank you very much general, please stay with us because up next we're going to talk about what we're learning about the suspected leaker of top secret intelligence documents. we'll tell you what just happened earlier today in court and a whole lot more please stay with us, you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. (vo) robots can predict breakdowns and order their own replacement parts. (foreman) nice work. (vo) and retailers can get ahead of the fashion trend of the day with a new line tomorrow. with a verizon private 5g network, you can get more agility and security. giving you more control of your business. we call this enterprise intelligence. from the network america relies on. you need to deliver new apps fast using the services you want in the clouds of your choice. with flexible multi-cloud services that enable digital innovation and enterprise control, vmware helps you innovate and grow. a mystery! jessie loves playing detective. but the real mystery was her irritated skin.
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weeks without anyone outside the group knowing about it the pentagon is now reviewing who has access to the nation's top secrets. >> we do have stringent guidelines in place for safeguarding classified and sensitive information. this was a deliberate criminal act, a violation of those guidelines if there are any areas where we need to tighten things up, we certainly will. >> with us to talk about this, kristen welker, ron allen in boston where teixeira made his first court appearance, david weinstein a former assistant district attorney and back with us msnbc military analyst, retired general barry mccaffrey. ron, what exactly happened this morning? >> reporter: very brief hearing, first appearance initial hearing in federal court the judge basically told teixeira what the charges were that he was facing
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unfortunately, a fire engine going by. >> we can hear you, ron. i thank you, though. i know that it's kind of loud there, but we can definitely hear you >> reporter: again, a very brief hearing. the judge explained the charges and splapd his rights to him and explained the next hearing for next wednesday there's a few details we learned about that were interesting. it appears the fbi had the help of another gamer who's referred to as user 1 who helped the fbi understand what was going on and track down teixeira. that individual told the fbi that these documents first started appearing around january as text messages and then they became photographs later as the time went by they appeared to be briefing papers or texts of briefings for top military officials the affidavit points to
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specifically the war in ukraine -- between ukraine and russia and documents, for example, describing troop movements on a particular day. so they were able to track him down and make a positive identification just yesterday using a driver's license picture of his in a photo lineup of other driver's licenses and this user 1 made the identification that's when the fbi went out and arrested him in that scene that we saw he appeared in court in a tan jail jumpsuit. there were several family members presenti and some emotional moments when they made eye contact with him they were sitting in the front row and trying to make eye contact at the beginning and end of the hearing he was handcuffed the whole time when it was over, the hand cuffs were put back on him and he was escorted out to another hearing. the next hearing is next wednesday.
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jose. >> and apparently these are pictures of some of the family members of teixeira as they left the courtroom this morning kristen, do we know how -- this information being out there since january, do we know more about how authorities were able to find out about this and how they acted until yesterday when they arrested him? >> well, certainly as ron just said, part of the process was talking to that gamer. here's a little more what we know about teixeira. he was promoted last year to airman first class he worked in i.t. in the intelligence wing of the national guard now, it was "the washington post" who first reported that he shared this classified intelligence under the screen name of o.g. on a game platform called discord that's popular with video gamers and gun enthu enthusiasts. they describe the leaker as someone searching for companionship, not necessarily someone trying to expose government secrets those in the chat room with him
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say he really didn't consider himself to be a whistleblower. but again, someone who was trying to impress his friends. we're still trying to get a clear picture of exactly how authorities caught up with him but we do know he had a top-secret security clearance and that would have given him access to a computer network that stored top-secret information and would have given him the ability to read and print that information, so that's part of the process, jose. >> david, i know you studied all of the legal documents in this case what do you make of them so far? >> well, significant that he abused his top-secret clearance and violated the trust put in him by the government. relatively easy to prove charges. he had access to, possessed them, disseminated them and he's looking at ten years per count in the guidelines, it's at least in the ten, 11 year range so threw away his career away for
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no reason other than to prove who he was and what he could do. >> what is the relationship between this and like the espionage act? >> so having access to these documents and publishing these documents is an act of espionage so to speak because you're disseminating them to people who have no right to access them and you're subjecting the united states and our partners to high levels of threat based on what you've released. you're not really charged with an espionage violation but rather violating his security and disseminating these defense documents, which in and of itself is an act of espionage. >> general, last time we spoke, not just a little while ago but a couple of days ago, you called it and said exactly what it is how can an airman in the massachusetts air national guard have access to such sensitive information? >> well, that's the main question, isn't it clearly this young man has done serious damage to the ukrainian
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defense of their country, although i think tactically they can probably mitigate that damage he's told the russians how thoroughly we've penetrated their political and military systems. they'll now start turning off those sources of information so he's done major damage. but the bigger question, jose, we just looked into that air force one star in the pentagon saying we have stringent guidelines in place, that's nonsense we've had a series of releases of classified information, snowden, chelsea manning, you name it, where low-level people could download the history of u.s. diplomatic cables why would the massachusetts national guard have access to cia, nro satellite information, briefings for the chairman of the jcs. it's nonsense. there is no such thing as a computer network that cannot be
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penetrated given enough time and cleverness so we just have got to relook at a zero base analysis how do we handle classified information? who has access we used to have all this sensitive information behind the green door there were two-man control systems. there were personal reliability programs we've got to go back and look at how we're protecting the nation's secrets this is a major blow to u.s. credibility and national security >> and, you know, i'm just thinking how many hundreds of thousands, maybe a million people in our country have access through clearance to all kinds of sensitive information i'm just wondering, general, so this is -- it happens over and over again you're saying it's nonsense.
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who's defending this >> well, we have an elaborate, well-funded structure with counterintelligence and computer security, cybersecurity. we understand that the principal threat we thought was china and to a lesser extent russia, the iranians and north koreans using cyber techniques to penetrate our systems. but increasingly over time we've found that the younger generation with their global chat networks and their distrust of government has been the principal source of this information. our state department ambassadors are fearful of sending a cable to washington with explicit comment on the state of politics in the global community because they know it might get leaked five years later so, again, i think part of the problem is we've opened the
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green door it's distributed intelligence. we've got to go back and have probably an outside agency go take a look at the department of defense and the state department is equally bad and say who are we granting access it's one thing to have a top-secret clearance it's another thing to have a top-secret compartmented clearance. but who needs access needs to be the guideline and we've lost control of it. >> yeah, just thinking of state and dod. a spy working for the castro regime inside washington, d.c., spent many years in prison, just released recently. david, members of this online group said that he was doing this to impress them what role did motivation likely play in charges for example he may be facing. >> not necessarily the charges but certainly enhancements under the guidelines for his abuse of his position of trust are going
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to add points to the guideline system the judge is going to are can. by doing this, these are the people who will testify perhaps and certainly if necessary that he knew exactly what he was doing. this was not a mistake it was, oh, i didn't realize they were classified and it becomes part of a much stronger case against him. >> kristen welker, ron allen, general mccaffrey, i thank you for being with us. up next, i'll expand on this massive leak of intelligence documents. i'll talk to congressman chris murphy it's a pleasure to see you we'll chat in just a couple of minutes. you're watching "jose do diaz-balart reports. - i'd like to speak to customer ser- - [phone operator] press one to speak to a customer service representative. (dial beep) i'm sorry, i didn't get that. (customer groans) - representative! - [phone operator] please try again, i'm sorry. - oh, buddy! come here. you need a hug. ohh, there you go. you also need consumer cellular.
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as we've been talking about, the man suspected of leaking highly classified defense department documents made his first court appearance this morning. 21-year-old jack teixeira was charged with possessing classified documents the massachusetts air national guardsman accused of posting the documents in a private chat room on social media platform discord. the attorney general garland addressed the case just moments ago. >> point you at what the secretary of defense has said. the department of defense is leading an important effort now to evaluate and review the national security implications and most important to conduct a review of the methods of access, accountability and control
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procedures that the department has so that something like this can never happen again on the more general question -- >> and with us now is congressman raja krishna morthi. i want to get your thoughts on the arrest of this suspected leaker >> i'm glad that he was arrested i'm glad that hopefully we're getting to the bottom of how this happened. but i've got to tell you that people like myself are waiting for the classified hearing next week at which we're going to ask pretty tough questions of the pentagon and others as to how this possibly could have happened you know, you send billions and billions of dollars collecting these secrets and preserving these secrets, so for a 21-year-old to access them, print them out and share them with his friends is just mystifying. >> so what are the top questions that you're going to be asking
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>> well, to me there are way too many people that have access to these secrets and classified documents. secondly, i think the manner in which they have access is just way too easy for them to share with others. you know, one of the reasons why there aren't too many members of congress who are tied up with a lot of these classified document scandals is that we are only allowed to view them in classified spaces. we're only allowed to view hard copies, not electronic versions, and we're required to turn them back in the moment that we're turn reading them. and yet here we have a 21-year-old national guardsman who has electronic access to all manner of subjects involving classified material. is it any wonder that he would be able to print them and upload them onto some random server
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somewhere. this is absolutely ridiculous. >> yeah. and i'm just thinking if he was able to do it in one server and eventually got caught, because apparently some of the people in that group put it on another group and that started disseminating. i'm wondering could there be other areas of the internet, other chats where this kind of stuff is happening and they have not leaking out yet? >> that's exactly right. i think that -- i'm hopeful that this is an isolated instance, but we can't just be confident about that and so that's why i think it's going to be super important for the counterintelligence folks at the fbi and doj as well as the pentagon to get to the bottom of exactly whether any other documents were leaked and how to mitigate any damage stemming from them, as well as the damage that came out of this initial leak >> and then of course there's
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the issue of how do you balance security with people's right to privacy. >> sure. you know, obviously in this particular instance, many of these secrets were collected on foreign targets and i think that, you know, i'm hopeful that the damage isn't as extensive as we feared. but certainly with regard to americans, i'm hopeful that we're not collecting on them in any way incidental to what's been collected on these foreigners and god forbid that material gets leaked as well and there could be further >> i want to ask you about something else in the news propublica reports harlan crowe bought property from supreme court justice clarence thomas back in 2014 for more than $133,000
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thomas didn't report it. even though a federal disclosure law requires an official to disclose details of most real estate sales over $1,000 are you and your colleagues at all having conversations about some form of congressional oversight or ethics reform for supreme court justices >> yes this comes up fairly often now i think the drum beat is louder and louder. first of all, even within the judiciary, it appears that there are different standards that apply to supreme court justices versus lower level judges. in this sense, which is the supreme court justices need to disclose when they receive gifts. in this case, justice thomas didn't even bother doing that. for lower level justices, they are -- judges, they are not even allowed to receive gifts above a certain amount and yet supreme court justices are.
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so i think that that's one big discrepancy that needs to be addressed. just so you know, with regard to legislative branch officials and members of congress, you know, we're not allowed to receive gifts above, i believe it's $50. i forgot the exact flthreshold amount that's an issue we have to deal with i think people are going to question the integrity of the judgments and opinions that are rendered by justice thomas and others what did harlan crow or his associates get in return for these lavish gifts there might have been millions of dollars of os of cruises, ane things others with matters before the court went along on these trips.
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>> i thank you very much for being with us this morning appreciate your time >> thank you the justice department is officially taking the battle overhe t abortion pill to the supreme court. what happens next? we will talk about that in just a minute or two. you are watching "jose diaz-balart" reports on msnbc.
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appeal with the supreme court in the texas case that challenged the fda approval for a widely used abortion pill mifepristone. an appeals court upheld the drug's approval. it allowed new restrictions to stand. ron desantis signed a strict new abortion bill into law the law bans most abortions after six weeks, except in certain cases. laura jarrett joins with the latest now that the doj filed its appeal on the pill, what happens next there >> right now, the ball is in the supreme court's court, as you will we know the justices are there we know that they are working. they heard another case today. we could hear from them at any time now, jose if they do nothing -- what that would mean is in effect, the ruling from last week out of texas would go into affect at midnight central time, 1:00 a.m. eastern. what that would do is
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essentially in the words of the justice department unleash regulatory chaos the reason for that is, remember, the way this ruling was structured, essentially it takes uss us back to 2000. there were restrictions on this pill, including that you couldn't get it in the mail. you have to go to a doctor's office you have to have more clinical visits it gets rid of the generic version. all of those regulatory changes, the justice department and the pill manufacturer are saying would be very, very disruptive at the same time, you have a different federal court which has told the fda, do not make any changes to this drug maintain the status quo. if we find ourselves at 1:00 a.m. today -- rather, tomorrow morning, in which this order has gone into affect with two conflicting rulings, that the supreme court has not resolved, that would be a significant legal limbo for this drug, jose. >> meanwhile, as you and i were talking about, that florida six week abortion ban is a fait
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accompli >> we don't know what's going to happen obviously, in the florida legislature, it has passed desantis signed it it hasn't gone into affect yet as there's actually a trigger that is put into play when another decision comes to pass at the state supreme court that's a 15 week ban that's what's in play. the six week ban can't come into play until that's resolved >> laura jarrett, thank you so very much. great seeing you south florida, the fort lauderdale international airport just reopened after being forced to close because massive flooding, i'm talking about massive. the airport received nearly 26 inches of rain joining us from fort lauderdale, florida, is sam brock. sam brock, there's sun out today. there's still a mess out there >> reporter: it's a mess the sun is out you are looking at multiple
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neighborhoods, according to the mayor of fort lauderdale, every corner of the city that's been touched by this historic flooding -- they usually see three inches in april. what i'm watching is residents here playing around with drains. the street i'm on. see how that's swirling and it's going into pumps this street that i'm standing on was covered in two to three feet of water this morning when we were outside doing reports now it's almost clear. if you step over this way, look at this street there's all these homes down here there is a solid, what looks like, multiple feet of water just sitting there, pooling, standing a couple of these guys have been out here there's another drain over there. they are playing around with it and can't get it to work you have spot neighborhoods that have residents that haven't been able to get out of their home. or if they have, it was this morning. others are starting to get back to life. 600 plus folks have been displaced, according to the mayor. we expect the figures to be
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updated in the next 30 or 40 minutes. there's a 12:00 press conference scheduled. as far as the airport, that reopened at 9:00 this morning. the first flights were 10:00 around florida and an 11:00 flight to chicago. hopefully, folks are getting to their destinations there was a standstill for 36 hours as people were adjusting to historic levels of flooding >> sam brock in fort lauderdale, thank you very much. that wraps up the hour for me. i will see you tomorrow night on "nbc nightly news" saturday. reach me on twitter and insta g instagram. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," 21-year-old air national guardsman jac

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