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violate my human rights and civil liberties with impunity -- i don't want to cuss on the air, man. but i think it's a clear indictment of the police culture -- organization. we need to be able to torture you and assure you without question. we want the narrative to be always between heroes and -- lives no matter what the circumstances are, no matter what you have said. and i think it's a load of crap. that is a polite way to say it. and i'm going to make this point to. for black officers around the united states, these -- silence of the if opp in the police officers union down there, in terms of any defense for these heinous acts, they defend all the other things that you see done -- but there is silence here. -- stop aligning yourself with
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that culture. quit internalizing it and do your job. we reflect the community that you came from, and do it with some integrity. you can do. it >> granted hansen, janai nelson, my great thanks for you for joining us tonight. that's all in for this week. alex wagner starts tonight. good evening,. alex >> thanks chris, thank you for joining us this evening. tyre nichols as 29 years. old his family and friends remember him as a great kid, and a beautiful soul. he was energetic an outgoing. he was even goofing. he had a four-year-old son. he worked the second ships, returning to his mother's house briefly at 7 pm for his late day lunch break. tyre nichols loved his mother. she said even had her name tattooed on his arm which made her proud. and he loved skateboarding, tyre nichols family says that he was pretty good. >> that was his passion, he's
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been skating since he was six years old. when he left around to 3:00, he was on his way to -- because my son every night and look at the sunset that was his passion owing to shelby farms and take pictures. >> that, is what's mother says tyree nichols was doing on january 7th. he was driving to shelby farms, to take in the sunset before coming back home for his mom's sesame seed chicken dinner. which was a meal that he loved. his mom said the tyree almost made it. he was less than 80 yards away from her house when he was stopped by five memphis police officers. who say they suspected him of reckless driving. -- footage from police body cameras and stationary cameras
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which capture the january 7th encounter. in order to understand what happened tyre nichols. with the police acting in the name of the state. what they did to this 20 nine-year-old. man we're going to play a portion of the newly released video. but before we do, i'd like to warn you that it's very difficult to watch. so, let's take a second. if you don't feel like up for watching us, or if you maybe have kids in the room with. you know you don't want to watch -- for ghana give you a moment before we play the footage. okay. this is some of what the memphis police released to the public this evening. >> get out of the [bleep] >> i don't do anything. >> all right, all right. [inaudible] >> get on the bully.
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get on the bleep. >> all right, i'm on the ground. >> get on the ground. >> i'll tase you. >> i'll tase you. [bleep] [bleep] [inaudible] [bleep] man, if you don't like. down >> i'm on the ground. [bleep] >> stop, i'm doing -- [bleep] >> the phrase, phrase. -- >> i'm just trying to go home he said. the police chase tyre nichols
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not afoot that, then they beat him. attorneys for nichols family described the footage of three minutes of a multi rated, unabashed, nonstop beating. we've compared to the 1991 video of los angeles police officers beating rodney gang. police at one point seem to kick him, and then whipping within objects. and while the still macron there, you can hear his very last words. >> watch, out. washout >> mom, [screaming] >> nichols ticket to the hospital in critical condition. he died three days later on january 10th. yesterday the five officers who stopped him were charged with second degree murder, aggravated assault, an aggravated kate happening amongst other charges. earlier today, tyre nichols
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mother, rowvaughn wells, asked for her reaction to the fact that her son cried out for her as he was beaten. ultimately to his death. by the police. >> my heart breaks for a mother to know that their child was holding them. and i wasn't there for. -- because i wasn't there for my son. i was showing someone that i had this really bad pain in my stomach, earlier, not knowing what had happened. but once i found out what happened, that was my son's pain i was feeling. and i didn't even know. for me to find out that my son was calling my name. and i was only feet away, and didn't even jerome.
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you have no clue how i feel right now. no clue. >> joining me now is rashad watching, temp of the racial justice -- caller changed any clouds, share the department of african american studies at princeton university, thank you both for joining me. tonight rashad, it's really as a human being and as the mother it's very, very difficult to watch this video. and i wonder how you how you think about this moment and what you make of it. and what your thoughts are when you're forced to watch that video? >> a new the video had to be just hadas, awful given how quickly we saw accountability, where we never see accountability that quickly. i also just continue to think about, are almost three years since a bad, breonna, and george, and all the work, all the move mid and energy that's
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happened that has forced saba revels of accountability on individuals. in different police departments, and has helped us -- district attorneys, and has helped us raise the specter of this issue. we can't keep having people fire tear there, or individual sort of pieces of accountability that don't get us to the systemic nature of policing. which is about control and safety. and part about -- every single day, is really deal with the fact that we need to reimagine public safety in the country. we need to deal with the incentive structures. at the root of what we're actually getting. there's incentive structures and systemic nature, and consistently time and time again protects, rewards, and makes this possible. and even when we have these collective moments, we'll get sort of someone fired. or someone going to jail.
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or to prison. but what we don't get, is the wholesale sort of changes, try the infrastructure of policing this is not about a bad apple here in there, it's about the very grown that policing is built. on, professor, there are movement in this video. the absolute depravity. of happens. here i agree with rashad, there's something about the system. and the ground upon which the seeds of poisonous policing at been planted. but there's something that is such an indictment of humanity. there are movements after they beat this man, affectedly to death. when you see the police officers bend down, tie their shoes. or ask each other if they found their glasses. or help each other with i wash, saline solid shin for the pepper spray that they mistakenly sprayed themselves with. and it shows a concern from
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each other's humanity, that's completely missing. when you talk about tyre nichols. their inability to see him as a human being. it's shocking. what do you think about our society when you see this? >> you know, just kind of generalized disregard. when it comes to black folk in this country. it's a part of our history, our president, and you combine that generalize disregard with a form of policing that presumes absolute authority, precisely because you represent organize state violence. so part of what we need to see, i think, alex, with regards to this horrific video footage. i don't think we about kyrie's mother, and about his side, i don't think about the loss, and public grief we need to see over, at over.
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with what the video fetch, think about the beginning of the encounter. when the police officer approaches the car and he snatches him out of the car. think about how he's talking to him talking at the level of violence in the voice and the inaction, that happens every single day. if communities of color, every single day. between black and brown folks, poor, folklore they are dehumanized. they need to ascend to the absolute authority of somebody who refuses to recognize that as a rights bearing citizen. and then that eventually elevates every now and then to someone dying. so, i want to say that at the heart of this, this generalize sense of disregard. that's a part of a former policing, organize state
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violence, that weather -- mother it's peter laying, whether it's black officers, or whether it's white police officers. when it comes to addressing people of color in communities of color, they don't give a blank about what the body that standing in front of. then those bodies are in -- >> that, point rashad, tyre nichols mother, rowvaughn wells, so that police attributed the use of force tour sons quote, superhuman energy. which made it difficult to put handcuffs on him. that's part of the dehumanization as well. the conversation they have amongst themselves, about how he was doing this, doing that. none of what has been borne out by the evidence we've seen thus far. or what officials appointed to. as probable cause. there's been none this far. and the idea to excuse away something that is morally repugnant, by blaming the
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victim, effectively superhuman energy, the recklessness. >> they're doing it because it works, alex, they're doing it because time and time again this is the playbook police unions, of prosecutors who don't hold police accountable, it's the playbook a mayor, city councils, this is why we are in this situation, there's no lone wolf here, this is part of the infrastructure, or actually getting more paying for. and until we actually holder elected officials accountable, to deal with this and they stop being afraid of the people that they're supposed to oversee, unsupervised, and hold accountable. then this will continue to happen time and time again. and i remember sitting in the obama white house, with the head of the fraternal order of police. and there was a meeting among civil rights leaders, in policing, in the head of the fraternal police said, all this talk of racial profiling is new to me. how do you even begin to have a conversation about reform, with
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someone that's literally gaslighting us about the very idea of something we know exists. we're not having a conversation with honest brokers. when movements are actually putting out, really clear demands, whether it's reform demands, or whether it's a bigger vision for public safety. we're not having a conversation with people who actually want to see any changes. they want to keep doing the same thing over and over again. and maybe glad a look more diversity, maybe we'll add more black and brown faces to the police forces. but as we, know regardless of the industry, it's the culture of the police. you can have more black bankers, but if they're still's -- don't care what the color of their skin. it's the police departments can be more diverse than ever, we can be less safe, and that's a result of failed practices time and time again. and not the infrastructure. the other thing, alex, that's important, is that we live in a
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large our culture. in a larger society where we condone, every single day on tv, we watch tv and entertainment shows, that are showing police beating, and harming black and brown people, and the next on the young black kid in the interrogation, room no face beating in, we don't call that hate, we call it entertainment. >> that's such an important point. we normalize violence against black and brown bodies. professor, the other thing that we've done from trying to reform a system that doesn't want to be reformed as we put a lot of the onus on the victims themselves. there's been a lot of talk about the top. the conversation that parents have to happen there young black children, or brown. children about how to behave when police stop. you and what is so chilling about this video. as you hear tyre nichols in a very calm voice, i'm just trying to get home. you guys are doing a lot right now. the police are acting in fury. and here is someone that's doing --
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running the playbook that any parent would have their child run. which is stay comment, don't be antagonistic, don't be aggressive, do it they. say and he died anyway. >> there is nothing about the top that could save my son if he runs into a cop who's having a bad day. there is nothing. there's nothing that could save him. there's nothing that he could do that could turn that c.o.p. down. we saw with tyre, he spoke calmly. okay. i'm on the ground. and what we heard him response to that, they don't just say something that echoes something that rashad said, and i want to put it in a phrase, diversify evil doesn't change the meaning of the no. diversifying evil, doesn't change the meaning of the. now you could put black faces in these institutions, that are
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fundamentally corrupt at their core, it doesn't change the fundamental nature of the institution. this is what baldwin was writing about -- in 1987. and when he was trying to come to terms with all these poor, black babies being killed in atlanta, with a black mayor, black chief of police, and the city too busy. you're right, there's nothing i can do. as a parent to protect my child from organize state violence in that way. and don't put it on me, don't put it on us. in some sense. we need to name for what it is. we need to name it for what it is. >> i want to say, we're gonna talk about the police. but i want to remind everyone that this was a 20 nine-year-old man. who loved skateboarding. and he loved sunsets, and he was goofy, any loved his mother. and we should not forget his humanity. as we talk about the ways in which state sponsored violence has denied is. life or shabbat scent, president of color of change, -- african american studies at
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princeton university, thank you for spending this time with me. it's a hard night. and i'm thankful for your time and thoughts. i had, we'll get to what the nichols family attorney, ben crump, called the institutionalist police culture. -- and samuelson outweigh, founder of the mapping police violence database, they join me coming up next. up next. when it comes to reducing sugar in your family's diet, the more choices, the better. that's why america's beverage companies are working together to deliver more great tasting options with less sugar or no sugar at all. in fact, today, nearly 60% of beverages sold contain zero sugar. different sizes? check. clear calorie labels? just check. with so many options, it's easier than ever to find the balance that's right for you. more choices. less sugar. balanceus.org
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at the police department released tonight, featuring the night tyree nichols was arrested earlier this month. it's incredibly violent, it's very upsetting. if you like to turn away, now is the time to do so. this video is from a pool camera nearby, so it doesn't have sound. you can see while multiple officers are already out -- -- walks over and kicks him. in a way that someone might kick a football. then he backs up and kick some again. about 20 seconds after that, koepka they're officer pulls out what appears to be a baton. and starts hitting nichols. this is all happening while tyre nichols is restrained by multiple other officers there the officers seem to take terms holding tyre nichols. back they slugging him, they do
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it again, and again. until finally, tyre nichols collapses. the reason why i want to show you that video, is because of how zoom doubted. as you can see in that video is not just one officer, but the whole unit acting together. the official justification for that traffic stop that night was tyre nichols, was recklessly driving. the chief of the memphis police department has since said, the department has no truth that reckless driving took place. a unit those police officers and, was known as the street crimes operation to restore peace and our neighborhood unit. but it was known primarily by its acronym, scorpion unit. the 40 officer unit of the -- was launched in november of 2021. in response to the homicide rate that year. it focused on controlling with the department deemed to be hotspots of criminal activity. today, the family of tyre
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nichols call on the police department to disband the unit immediately. the chief of the memphis police ordered a review of that unit. but how much of this incident can be blamed on a single unit, and how different is that unit from how police act overall. joining us now is samuelson now a, founder of the mapping police violence database and the organization police score card, and radley felkel, -- rise of the warrior cough, the militarization of the americas police force. thank you for being with us. tonight i want to start with you, when we talk about this elite unit the scorpion unit do you think in many ways, it actually having a unit like that, leads to more police violence rather than the opposite of what it's intended to do? >>, so you see this having happening in cities across the country, new york city, they had this anti gun unit, the plainclothes unit that was disbanded and reinstated on
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mayor adams. so, there's this unit that are concentrations of oftentimes the officers that have some of the worst records in the entire -- they use forces of hirings, more likely to make complaints. more elected have lawsuits against them. in many cases, those are officers that are empowered to be in these units, that harassed community, sometimes on swat teams, that harass communities with militarized equipment. it's not just about anyone unit. you cannot blame this on anyone unit. or even those five officers individually. because this is a system, every single year the police kill more than 1100 people in this country. last, year it was the largest number of people killed by police according to our organization -- in public records request. articles from media, police statements. an information from state databases across the country. we found that nearly 1200 people were killed by police last year. more than three people every
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single day. and memphis police department, when you look over the past decade. memphis police department has had a rate of killing by the police slightly more than the national average. but there's police departments like albuquerque, like st. louis, that rates of police violence more than double that of memphis. so, there places across the country of hundreds of thousands of police departments that have the same or worse conduct them we're seeing in memphis. we can't just look at one case, were five officers in one unit. we need to look at the system as a whole. that continues year after year to kill more than 1100 people in this country. >> radley, to samuels point, when you talk about the system or the reforms some police departments are undertaking, they don't seem to be working, memphis according to the reporting, and the last two years instituted a number of reforms meant conch down on incidents like this.
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a ban on chokeholds, de-escalation training, they were trying to implement this stuff that's supposed to stave off behavior like. this is what's the lesson were supposed to take from that? >> well, they were doing some reforms, they were also creating an elite police unit. that was given the name, the scorpion. we have a problem in police culture more generally but i think sam nailed it, when he said that these units or a concentration of the worst aspects of policing. i'm not gonna say that beyond these units you don't see it. but you do see, much higher incidence of them, ascension the nypd unit, that was the unit that killed abner -- we had a huge trial in baltimore with a gun crimes unit, surprisingly when you created a team of police officers and you tell them that their early, you tell them that their sort of pulaski of line of defense against crime, you
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want that have a name like scorpion a lot of these units have skull crossbones in other symbols of death as their motto, or logo. we shouldn't be, surprised when you see things like that. and the implication that they're above the law, where they get to bend the rules. we see things like this happen. it's changing police culture isn't an easy thing to do. we should at least not go out of her way to contribute to. it >> sounds, elizabeth you're understanding of the zelina not's are exempt from the narrative, or the discussion, or the lessons that other parts of the police department, the training they need to undergo, et cetera? >> it really depends on the police department, the thing with the united states is that they're 18,000 front lawn forsman agencies, -- the east have are on policies, practices, leadership, funding sources, et cetera. it could be that case in memphis, but it may be different a few miles away from this.
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and that's part of the problem. it's how to decentralize policing. it's part of the reason why we haven't seen much wholesale change with the system. because for everyone, tour, three departments -- investigation. they require to implement a variety of different reforms and changes. for every one of those police departments another police department that's moving in the opposite direction, it's doubling down on -- it's creating crimes, that are militarizing, and giving the more 30 to cause harm. i think the big picture problem is, is the system as the whole are, worsening individual officers but agencies police department of, year after year, continue to kill people, harm people, black people at rates much higher than what people. without any accountability, without any systemic changes. annapolis, even, every 2% of cases where police were killed by the police, you get an officer who charged. lesson 1% of officers are
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convicted, but even now that's not going through wholesale change in the system, those agencies those units are still in place. >> radley, i talk about the relative youth of the officers involved in the i think the officers charlie nichols death were hired from 2017 to 2020. and they were ranging from 24 to 32 years old. do you think that factors that all into this, is that a red herring? i know some folks, -- agent said that he'd seen younger and younger men recruited to these kind of elite specialize street crime units -- does that play a role in any of this? how do you see that affecting what unfolded on january 7th, if at all? >> you, know that these issues are limited to younger officers. but when you create one of these ali units they're supposed to be stacked with the best of the best in the department. a new staff out with guys who are 24, 25, 26 years old.
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they haven't been in the department for more than five years. we need to question how malik those units really are. the other thing, that we know that we need to think, about is a police officers who train these guys, as soon as they, gabba feel training officers tend to be sort of the cops, koch they tend to be guys, not particular desired position, and but in particularly crap departments, we've seen this in the l.a. sheriff's department for example. people are reputed to those positions, those training positions, they tend to be -- a lot of disciplinary and -- problems of their. owen because there's this effort to indoctrinate the recruits early on. -- sort of the rare fame oriented koch. you take that, they get this kind of training and immediately put them in one of these units, and tell them there early, they have some kind of special privileges. and on the other department, the officers need to follow, it
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is a recipe for disaster, again, i don't want to suggest that the only problems in policing are in these units. but i do think that we see a particular concentration of those problems. >> samuelson outweigh, -- police scorecard and radley balko, author of rise of the warrior, cop killer tries asian america's police force. guys, thank you both for your time tonight. tonight president biden has weighed in on the violet footage of tyre nichols beating. like so many, i was outraged and deeply pained to see the horrific video of the bidding that resulted in tyre nichols's death. it's another painful reminder of the profound fear, trauma, pain in the exhaustion that black and brown americans experience every single day. will have reaction coming up next from a member of the memphis city council. stay with us. ay with us
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reacting tonight to the body cam footage released by city officials showing the violent confrontation that led to the death have tyre nichols. within minutes of the video being published, our reporters on the grounds of protesters heading to the police headquarters and memphis. they were chanting, no justice, no peaceful holding signs with tyre nichols name on. it in another part of the city, protesters were seen blocking highways that intersections
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including the arkansas memphis. bridge the were also seeing peaceful protests elsewhere in the country. washington, new york, boston, seattle. the white house held a meeting this afternoon with mayors of more than 15 cities to coordinate support, as metropolitan centers braced for public outcry. the nichols family, officials in memphis, and the white house have all called for peaceful demonstrations and thus far, that's exactly what we're seeing. joining us now is memphis city councilman, rhonda logan, miss, logan thanks for making the time. we really appreciate you being here. can you give us a sense of what the discussion has been among local officials, about the death of tyre nichols, in the decision to release the video? >> absolutely, thank you for having. us first and foremost, i want to extend the condolences to tyre nichols and his family. and our prayers go out to them. i'd legislatively --
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the importance of swift action in times of looking at a policies and units -- are concerned that we take a deeper dive into police reform. >> can i ask you about our proposal here that band crump, one of the attorneys has suggested called tyre's law, which is effectively saying that police officers have a duty to intervene when they see a crime being committed, even if those crimes are being committed by their fellow officers. is it something you think that officials can get behind? >> absolutely, most certainly looking at this that's the one thing that resonated with everyone, the fact that, that officers, personnel stood around and did not help, did not do anything to do escalate the situation, or to help mr.
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nichols, who was clearly, in distress under duress. they just said, around and did nothing as though they didn't know what to do. , so some up here not to know what to do, others just -- indifferent. and that was the part that was really disheartening. the fact that you have been under oath, to protect and serve the citizens of. memphis and that did not happen. >> the decision to release this video, on a friday evening, was made because schools were out, businesses were closed, as opposed to another day of the week, or another time. what was your reaction to this video when you first saw it? >> emotions were raw, extremely raw. they spans the gamut, span the spectrum, it was deeply disturbed when i heard that mr. nichols call for his mother.
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when i heard him ask or say, what did i. do and then i became outraged when i saw the officer standing around doing. nothing when i saw them punch, i'm and repeatedly kick, and really beaten. and he was not fighting back, he was almost helpless,, so i became outraged. because at that point, they have nine, ten officers on the scene. and no one went to his aid. >> what do you think people, what is your suggestion to your constituents, what should they do with their outreach when they see this video? >> i don't legislative body, i think it's incumbent upon us an imperative that at this time we peel the layers back in pd.
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in peel the layers back on our lives, ordinances, in training and recruiting, we did convene a public safety task task force in 2020. to look at that. recruiting, hiring, training, and retaining public safety officers. we wanted to make, certainly took a deep, dive we took six months to really look into. and i was really again, how it rage because of the work that happened diana, the work that was being done, we have a new police chief, we have a new dna, and as i, said that really as an elective body, we've been working toward making certain that the -- people center. that the officers are trained, that we are, community policing and we're putting funds behind those efforts. and to see this, see those
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officers just coming in and total disregard for the work that's been done. look bothered me, was the fact that they were new to the force. and they were they were young and it made me really war was the supervision, how are they allowed to to be this elite or specialized task force. and new to the, force i kind of that on the more than a city of when this well enough to be enough for such as this. so, that's gonna be something that really took a deep dive. and how effective these types of police. are when they're not when they're not new to the. forest >> is a lot of questions outstanding in all. that is we just learned that two deputies pending the outcome of administrative investigation since this video has been. really the investigations
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continue. -- rhonda low-level thank you for your time. coming, up we're gonna talk to the lawyer for the nichols family, antonio romanucci, that's next.
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earlier, today before the release of that footage, nichols's family and their attorney reacted to the news that all five officers involved in his death were charged with second degree murder. those attorneys also called for the city of memphis to disband the scorpion unit. an elite police unit, that those officers were a part of. joining us now is one of those attorneys. antonio ruminate you, mister romanucci thank you for making time. tonight i know it's been a very, very busy day today. let's start with some of the new news we have the two additional officers have been released of duty, since the release of the video. i'll read the statement from the shelby county sheriff. having watched the videotape, for the first time tonight, i have concerns over two deputies, who appeared on the scene following the physical confrontation billene between police and tyre nichols. i've had launched an internal investigation into -- determine what occurred. and if any policies were violated. both of these deputies have been relieved of duty pending
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the outcome of the investigation. are you surprised, that we are still, that officials are still in the process of figuring out who was involved in all this? given the fact that they've had the video for at least a little while now? >> so,, look first of all i'm not surprised that there are more officers being relieved of their duties. i will not be at all surprised when more charges come, more criminal charges come against police officers, am i surprised it's taking this long, i've been around long enough that i've had to wait six months, i year, two years or not at all for charges to come. so, the fact that at least the administrative part of it is coming, i think that we know what's coming next. they'll be looked at criminally also. these officers, who fail to render aid, who did not intervene, they should be looked that administratively and also criminally. >> it seems like that's part of the. issue obviously, there was a
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central issue of what happened to tyre nichols. but the by standing, on, looking the by, standing on the part of police officers. a first responders, i mean that speaks to another part of the cancer is culture that's affected this part of law enforcement. and again, first response. to what degree is that something that people are focusing on? i know there's a lot of attempted systemic reforms of the law enforcement. but this part of it and the ability to stand by as a fellow officer effectively leads to death. civilian, seems like a very big problem in law enforcement. >> well, really what it is is the paradox of law enforcement. they're there to provide protection, served the right thing, to be there for citizens when they're needed for safety purposes. but when you see them act in this contra indicated away, it does create confusion, it causes mistrust. that's why we have this
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imbalance between community and police because they're doing the exact opposite of what we're told are supposed to do. the end in scorpion, supposed to be for neighborhood, this east coast before community. it's supposed to have a feel good sound to it, but instead as we've, heard scorpion really has a very deep staying, and they caused a death here. a very needless death. >> you've been dealing with the fact, i wonder if you can give us a sense of how they're managing this moment, i'm just staggered by the strength of tyre nichols mother, to speak of the death of the sun, publicly and in such eloquent terms -- when he was sent here for purpose and perhaps awakening the country are further alerting the country as to the horrific abuses that occurred on the part of the state sanctioned --
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state awakening the country to that violence. on the part of police, that potentially is a mission, if he was indeed on a mission here. how are they grappling with the fact that all of the country -- was effectively the execution of the sum. ? >> he rate such a good point, the words of the mom, or that he was here for the assignment. it's so profound. it's incredible. i've watched the bell curve of the emotion, now since the beginning of until today. and i believe the only way to think, he'll amongst themselves. within themselves. snow that tyree was here for an assignment from got -- let's make this an assignment for our country. let's let washington hear us. let's rejuvenate --
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reforming act. let's get a vote, so we can have uniformity, amongst the states so that we can then not have this disparity in policing from state to state. let's all follow in play by example. >> antonio romanucci, attorney for the tyre nichols family. i cannot imagine what the conversations are like right now. but for all of us on the outside, but we send our condolences, and our absolute deepest, sympathies to this family in this time for having to live through what is unthinkable. mr. maroney g, thank you for joining us. >> i promised to convey that, thank you, alex. >> thank. you will be right back. ll be right back
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officers to be indicted on charges including second degree murder, kidnapping, and official misconduct. the charges came just 16 days after tyre nichols's death. a kind of rapid action happen mostly, probably, because of the newly elected shelby district a county -- who ran on a platform different -- address racial profiling and de-escalation training tactics. and the memphis chief of police has also spoken out about reforms, including on a national scale. the kind of timeline we have seen in the tyre nichols case is not the norm when it comes to police violence against black americans, especially when it comes to these killings that have been caught on video. in the 2014 you're killing of 17-year-old laquan mcdonald in chicago -- captured on dash cam video, it took nearly 14 months for the police officer who killed him to be charged. in 2019 it again took four months for a texas police officer to be charged in the killing of 44-year-old

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