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[buzzer] dangnabbit. geico. fifteen minutes could save you...well, you know. >> good morning. i'm richard lui in for chris jansing. back to business. federal workers are going back to their jobs because the government is back open after a 16-day shutdown. here you see vilsack greeting workers on their first day back. he told nbc news he's excited to have people back at work. >> back open. the national monuments, we saw park rangers taking down the signs and declaring the mall open for business and taking off the signs. another first. the first tour. a group of very excited discovery middle school kids from minnesota among the first to get into the lincoln memorial. >> last night there was a lot of cheering when we heard that it was going to be very close and that it could potentially be open today so when we came down for breakfast at 6 clk a.m. this
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morning and we gave them the official word they were so excited. >> i never will forget the line of officers here in front of the memorial keeping folks from coming up. so it was -- it was an experience. >> now we're expecting to hear from president obama in 30 minutes. he signed it just hours before he asked congress to stop governing from crisis to crisis. >> there is a lot of work ahead of us including our need to earn back the trust of the american people that's been lost over the last few weeks and we can begin to do that by addressing the real issues that they care about. >> okay. so that deal funds the government until january 15th. it raises the debt ceiling until february 7th and it asks the house and senate to have the budget report by december 13th and it allows treasury to use extraordinary measures and adds
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income verification to obama care. the house republicans got nothing in the deal after picking this fight to try and defund obama care. >> do people realize that they don't work the way they want it to. >> it all depends where you're living. >> i'm going to say that i don't think anybody believes that when you stand and fight on principle that you lose. >> i would hope that we learn from the past and employ different strategies and tactics that would be more successful in the future? >> is it short-term damage? is it long-term damage? >> we'll see. >> i want to bring in our company, roll calls, politics and editor. clarence paige, columnist for the chicago tribune. >> i want to start with some of the reflections that speaker boehner had in a radio interview yesterday afternoon. take a listen. >> we fought the good fight. we just didn't win. >> we fought the good fight. there's just no reason for our
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members to vote no today. >> fought the good fight here. let's look forward. did republicans learn anything new from this might be the question here, schirra? >> i don't know if they did learn anything new from this. i think if they looked back they'd be hard pressed to say what they would have done differently in this situation, especially given the makeup of the caucus and john boehner, too, i think going forward if he hasn't already he'll have serious thoughts about whether he wants to stay on with what looks like not such a fun job as being speaker of the house. >> nobody wants that job, it looks like. let's get a democratic view. it's senator chuck schumer's take. >> i think the tea party and ted cruz have peaked. first, they have so alienated the parties. the tactics of the tea party. i'm going to hurt innocent people unless i get my way. this was the first time that it was in the spotlight that the american people saw it, they didn't like it. the republican party has learned
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a lesson here. >> some of them have learned a lesson. ted cruz and mike leigh voting against that deal. will voters as we saw some of the pictures of the voters go back into the public parks and into these mono ups, will this result in a backlash for the tea party? >> before we talk about 2014, we talk about january and february, as we said. we've only got a reprieve right now. this debate resumes and new deadlines are coming up. what's interesting to me, richard, is how the spin, if you will, conventional wisdom about john boehner said yesterday. it was poor boehner can't keep control of this caucus and today the new york times saying, boehner let the right wing just play out until the end of her
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rope and find out for themselves to go in to something like this with no strategy. they came out losing on every count. >> isn't january or february the time when we're looking at lawmakers starting to gear up their campaigns and if this fight continues as it did in this past month it doesn't portend bell. >> chuck schumer were saying the tea party have peaked and this is a wake-up call on both sides and now that the hot stove has been touched we see that certainly house members in the safe districts got little reason to listen outside of their own echo chamber and there are other folks that did make a dense. >> that hot stove is warm in some corner. matt salmon is ready to give up
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the fight. >> i'll still make a prediction for you. president obama will postpone parts of this before this is true. >> i believe we will make changes to obama care. try to stop the bad from happening. >> do no harm is what he said. shira. we have to stop obama care from taking effect. sounds like the same sheet of music we've been hearing. >> it is the same message that republicans were talking about going into this entire pickal impasse, but what's changed slightly, you will hear in his words that he wasn't talking about defunding obama care although that's number one on his wish list and instead he was talking about postponing it and that's what republicans are talking about, and people will be sick of the broken web seat and the other parts of obama care and they're hoping public opinion will be in the first quarter of next year as a
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result. >> want to bring in senator bill nelson, a democrat from florida. we've been showing you pictures this morning of individuals going back to work, of people going back into parks and the sides coming down, vice president biden will be welcoming some of those employees as they come on back to work right now and you said regarding this entire thing and the short-term increase will kick the can down the road and while we see that progress at these monuments, that's what we still have going forward as we look towards january and february, isn't it? >> yes. cautiously optimistic. this is kick the can down the road in a more orderly way. it gives those of us on the budget committee to go to a conference committee. the house countries, by the way, are small in number. the house leaders -- us leaders -- leaders, met today, issued a saluteory statement and
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this is all of the way from what is a much higher level in the senate budget resolution and much lower level in the house resolution, but we can get to that number with certain assumptions. republicans want income tax return, reform. they want some tweaking of the entitlement programs. democrats obviously want some more revenue. you can produce revenue out of income tax reform and some of the tweaking of the entitle mme programs and there could be more right now in the divided
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partisan atmosphere. >> that's where cooler heads will prevail and you have your colleague senator ted cruz, let's say hello to that. we saw the house of represent ofsic thatting a courageous stand. that was a remarkable victory to see the house engage in a promile and courage. >> a profile and courage. senator, you mentioned some opportunities and what did you make of what ted cruise is saying and what he might say going forward? >> i like ted cruz personally. my wife and i just took him to dinner during the shutdown, but on this, ted is wrong, and i think the earlier interview you had with chuck schumer is correct. i think the the tea party has exposed themselves to the kind of tactics that they were using
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which was reckless and irresponsib irresponsible, and i believe as we go forward you all in the media like to use the word, get the adults in the room and i think we'll be able to do that. fortunately, the debt ceiling causing the government to default although the date is february 7th, i think that's off the table so what we've really got to concentrate on between now and december the 13th is to get a budget agreement that will then replace that sequester that takes us so low on the 13th. >> you sat down with ted cruz. what did you talk about? >> it was a social dinner. it is something that senators ought to do. we run back out to our states the minute we're out of session and we don't do enough of this personal, social gathering and my wife and i thoroughly enjoyed
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about ted and getting to know him and the conversation of his background, his family, likewise, he did with us. he happens to be my ranking republican on the committee i chair. the science and space subcommittee. i'm trying to get him to understand how important nasa is that you can't put the sequester in there, a billion and a half on nasa and do everything that little space agency wants to do. so i think it's building confidence in personal relationships. >> right. >> and then let's get to the tough, thorny policy matters. >> senator bill nelson, more denners needed. >> thank you for your time again. >> thanks. >> i want to bring back shira and clarence. clarence, to you first there. part of the deal when you're looking at the numbers that was coupled into that. >> they're calling the kentucky
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kickback. it's a $2.9 billion deal for the holmstead dam and that dam is a link to illinois and kentucky. is this a little bit of a sweetener for mcconnell's reelection and his con stitch wens? >> mcconnell certainly needs all of the sweetening he did goet, because he's been challenged from the right in his primary and in the general election, of course. he's a man that has pivotal figure and the sort of figure can make a difference next year or 2014. >> on the flip side here, shira, the senate majority leader harry reid praising mcconnell. he may not come out a winner on this if the praise continues. >> as soon as i saw harry reid
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say those things about mitch mcconnell. i thought, that would be in a future campaign ad probably one year from now and probably less in the kont -- >> it is interesting that harry reid aren't known to have a great bill fellson encountered this, thank you boeing for the perspective on the deal. >> capital tors. they started up with that video to show you how things are back at work. >> cory booker got a very encouraging message from president obama. he defeated steve lon gan to fill the senate seat left by frank lautenberg.
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the perception of who's to blame for the shoudown in washington, but on "morning joe" booker says he sees the discourse in washington as a good opportunity. >> i think everybody feels this fatigue and trust raising with how things are which creates a great climate for change. before you can have great victory often you have to have great frustration. it is that simple sometimes. thanks. now let's take this puppy over to midas and get you some of the good 'ol midas touch. hey you know what? i'll drive! and i have no feet... i really didn't think this through. trust the midas touch. for brakes, tires, oil, everything. (whistling)
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>> in two weeks' time there was so much that my coworkers and i couldn't do it. it was illegal for us to do any work whatsoever and it is frustrating because you want to be productive. you can do so many loads of laundry. >> it feels great to be back to work. i'm planning on retiring for three years and i treated this as a pre-retirement lesson and found things i did like and
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mostly i wanteto work. >> federal employees heading back to work this morning after a government shutdown. agriculture department workers were greeted at the door there by secretary vilsack. disaster averted, now what? we paid a steep price for washingt washington, d.c.'s dysfunction. it took a $24 billion bite out of the u.s. economy. that's about 0.6 percentage points of the projected economic growth in the fourth quarter. >> my colleagues, do you think that your recklessness was worth $24 billion to our economy? this recklessness is a luxury the the american people cannot afford. >> one of the things i said throughout this process is we've got to get out of the habit of governing by crisis. >> let's bring in msnbc condition tributor and former
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biden chief economist jared bernstein. >> good to see you. this business does not like crisis. it does not like uncertainy and when we look at this short-term deal it looks like we've set up yet another double whammy. we've got the two deadlines january 15th and february 7th. >> so you certainly aren't going tobacco one of those folks who is banking in the sun light of the khum bia on capitol hill last night. >> take us through it, my friend. take us through it. >> i agree with you wholeheartedly. i thought nancy pelosi, by the way, just said it perfectly. if we were with an economy that was at 5% unemployment and humming along at 3% gdp growth, you know, in the heart of a strong recovery this would still be very bad, but it wouldn't be as bad as it is with an economy that is still trying to break out of the kind of doldrums that we've never quite left behind us from the great recession. so if we really shave half a point or so off of gdp growth this quarter, that means we are
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still trucking along at below trend growth and that's not going to bring the unemployment rate down, so yes, this definitely hurts the macro economy and the uncertainty doesn't hurt either. >> rather than the 2% they're saying now. the 24 billion lost, that's just the u.s. economy. can woe get that back or is it gone? >> that's a great question. maybe this has been somewhat underappreciated. i think we can probably get a bunch of that back because what happens is in a situation like the shutdown when lots of people are uncertain and their businesses are hurt. when it ends, oftentimes they've got untapped demand, untapped projects and things they were holding off and you get more growth in the next quarter so you gain some of it back. what worries me is what you started with a minute ago and two things that worry me. the first is that we shouldn't be inflicting any wounds on this economy, and the second thing is where you were a second ago where you said you still have the uncertainty out there
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another few months, so the problem is not that you'll gain back some of what you lost and the problem is that you have interest rates that are higher than it should be, and you have the threat of this happening again in a few months. >> we see the dow is down 85 points and we like the deal and giving everyone back right now and this is a counterintuitive perspective. an economist at pine ridge investments says it would have been better. they hammer out a long-term deal. what do you think about that one? >> i did write during this period that remember when congress failed to pass the t.a.r.p. and the dow crashed almost 800 points and that did focus congress' attention. so that was a market sell-off they do think was helpful in the longer run, but a default is much more cataclysmic than that. once you lose the full faith of
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the most reliable vetter as the president said, that's hard to get back. >> the safest investment in the world. thank you so much. >> thanks, richard. just hours after they voted to end the shutdown. they confirmed caroline kennedy as the next u.s. ambassador to japan. kennedy vowed to carry forward the legacy of her father, the late president john f. kennedy. japan is the fourth largest trading partner and home to 50,000 u.s. troops stationed there. building animatronics
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his road map is what we expect to hear and that starts in ten minutes and we'll go straight to that when it does happen. as we're waiting for that, reps unleashing fierce reaction at the deal and some members of his own party. john mccain on house gop members who wanted the shutdown and debt fight. >> the problem with their strategy was is that it was a fol's errand. we were not going defund obama care and that's why we had an election in 2012. it was a terrific mistake. we inflicted pain on the american people that was totally unnecessary and we cannot do this again. >> so again, as we wait for the president to speak we want to bring in gop congressman who called the shutdown tactic suicidal in the past. tom cole from oklahoma. good day to you. we had a busy day. what did the republican party here get from the shutdown and debt fight. you heard senator mcdane there. >> frankly, we kept our conference unified.
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we made the points we wanted to make, but i didn't support the government shutdown and this certainly worked to try to get the government back open and we succeeded in doing that. right now we moved on to what will be the important fight which is what are we going to do to reduce the deficit? what are we going to do to tack a long term, structural spending problem. >> which is what you were saying consistently, but if you didn't gain anything, didn't you lose in the end? >> i don't know if we won or lost. i'll leave it to the political pundits to make that decision, but i know we're on much firmer ground now. look, both sides don't like the sequester, but i think it's a bigger problem for democrats than republicans. there are common elements between the position and tom ryan in terms of entitlement reform and i think we can do things to offset one and the other and that's what the country wants to see us do, and i think it's more likely to happen now than two weeks ago.
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>> you're one of the cooler heads in the caucus here. you've watched as capitol hill has gone through this back and forth. look forward for me, how did the house gop feel? do you expect more of the same or will there be a new sense of bipartisanship here? >> well, i certainly don't expect more of the same. i'm not about to declare an era of sunshine and roses has broken out and i do think that we're back at the table with serious negotiators and people that have a lot of respect on both sides of the aisle and the rotunda and we can find some common ground and there's a lot we're not going to agree on and let's identify the areas that we do agree and go forward. i think that's what the country wants us to do. i think that's honestly what we have a chance to do and it's teechl f team for us to get down and get the job done. >> as you look past over the
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last month, roy blunt saying this quote, we managed to dwoid ourselves on something we were unified on. and the president had the worst august that anyone president could have had and we managed to change the topic. was that one of the objectives to delay the president's objectives here? >> no. i don't think it was meant to delay them at all. it was a sincere effort to deal with a very bad law and the rollout of obama care has demonstrated multiple flaws in the system, and i think we'll see more of that. was that a wise tactic? personally, i don't think so. i agree with my friend senator blunt whoi u i used to be deput with. folks had an opportunity to make their case and now it's time to get down and identify some things where we can agree on and get those things done for the american people. i think that's what happens going forward. >> congressman, let me get more perspectives from you and here
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were other statements made by your fellow republican lawmakers last night. >> we will continue to stand up for our values that we have all along. >> what does this mean for the future of the republican party? >> this means we're doing exactly the right thing. >> and we will continue to do that. >> we, indeed will continue to fight. we're not going anywhere. >> we took a charge at this and we fell short, but at the end of the day we lost the battle, but we'll win the war over obama care. >> as part of that under the deal the government remains funded, as you know through january 15th and we have the debt ceiling exit tended through february the 7th and that is what is coming up and you heard the statements from fellow republicans. what will you say to that faction of a faction that made this happen if they continue their current approach. what will you say to folks like ted cruz? >> i agree with them on the fight. we need to do anything we can to delay, slowdown, change, obama
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care and this was not my view the best tactic to do that and we have not changed it many times. that saved about $62 billion and we can continue down that road and quite frankly, i think the flaws of the system will become increasingly evident. so again, let's change where we can. let's find some common ground and then frankly, through my friends and this includes myself & would like to win some change, let's go win some elections. you are not like le to repeal the entire law. >> what would you say to ted cruz if he continues in the manner he's been acting over the last month? >> ted cruz, i've never met him. he's clearly a brilliant communicator and i'll let him draw whatever lessons he wants to draw from this, but in my view the tactic didn't succeed. we weren't unified in the senate
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and we more aappreciate in the house. frankly, they're not the majority there. it was never an achievable goal in the united states senate in my view. i live on my saturday of the rotunda. >> and on your saturday of the rotunda, congressman, speaker boehner, you're close to him. what does he have to do going forward here? was this the last time that he violates that so-called hastert rule, the majority of the majority this time around? >> first of all, i'm exceptionally proud of the speaker. he led a whale of a fight and no matter what your views on the fight he respects his unified and the sheer toughs than he showed and it strengthened his hand inside the conference going forward. i think he's actually in a stronger position to deliver his conference. he's been willing to do what's necessary on major things like
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sandy, violence against women and the fiscal cliff and at the end of the day we'll see if they'll do what's necessary and i've never seen a president do something that only a majority of his republicans and that's what he will take on the entitlement reform and only presidents can lead on entitlement and so far, sadly, whether it's simpson bowles or reforming medicare and medicaid system the president simply hasn't led. it's time to show he can lead and bring people together instead of divide them. >> tom cole who voted for that solution overnight and open up the government and thank you so much for your time today. >> as we continue to wait for the president to speak, we expect him to come to those microphones any minute right now. we heard it's 10:35 and we'll go straight to that. i want to bring in the center of american progress and diane ledger and justin safy. the associated press saying,
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quote, obama and his democratic allies were the decisive winners in the fight here. how do you see it it? ? >> i find it hard to believe that anyone can say there's any winner at all here. the american people disapprove of president obama's job of handling the crisis. they disapprove of the democrats in congress handling this crisis and they disapprove the republicans handling this crisis. everyone will try to size up who won and who lost, but at the same time, clearly, clearly, the strategy to defund obama care didn't work so i will say that that was one lesson learned but at the same time i don't think anyone should be declaring themselves the winners when the government was shut down for as many days as it was. >> but if you didn't get anything that you wanted and you were part of the faction of the gop that said we needed to get something out of this, if you didn't get anything out of it, don't you lose? >> maybe in washington that's what the definition of losing
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is. at the same time, the democrats and nancy pelosi and the democrats in the senate and the house voted to support sequester-level funding. okay. so that is something that the republicans fought hard for a couple of years ago and they did achieve out of this battle. >> danniella, what's your perspective? who comes out the winner and who comes out the loser on this deal? >> i'm going sort of agree and i'll say i don't think anyone won here. the american people lost. the shutdown cost $24 billion. who lost more than anybody else, obviously john boehner and the tea party caucus of the house. the whole goal was to defund obama care and it shifted to other things and we ended up exactly where we could have been two weeks ago if they had just put the clean cr bill on the house to begin with. when you look at approval ratings, yes, everyone was upset with with everyone. the republicans' approval ratings went through the floor.
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i think we can say the american people are the definite losers. the people who aren't going to get back pay and not the furloughed workers and the people who were line cooks at the smithsonian, those are the real losers here. >> how do democrats separate themselves from what you just discussed and that is that everyone is upset with congress saying congress is broken here. >> there are degreeses about who people blame for this. nobody comes out smelling like a rose here, but i think people understood and they could see that john boehner was playing politics with this because he was more concerned about his speakership than keeping the government open. he could have done what he did yesterday two weeks ago and people could have stayed on the job. we wouldn't have lost $24 billion for a party that's supposed to be the fiscally conservative party. it's outrageous they let this happen. >>y want to play a sound bite on
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"morning je." one thing they crave is approval. we know we have to start doing things differently and there are a lot of good people of good will who i think are ready to do that. >> so does it sound like tea party republicans are ready to do things differently? what do you think some. >> well, look, i think there's a division in this country. there's a division in this country between not just members of congress, but of voters and americans who support obama care, those who oppose it and those who support unlimited race to the national debt. those who want higher taxes and those who want lower taxes and a division amongst the country, but i will say that i hope that senator mccane's message carries through and hopefully that's one positive of this whole experience where parties can now come together and maybe do something to address some of these long-term, fiscal issues otherwise we'll have three and four-month extensions.
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>> and the change is for them to break through that and separate their message from what right now is the headline. i want to remind folks that are with us. president obama is about to come to the state dining room and we help him to be there any moment and he'll be laying out his plan forward and from what we understand the items he'll be looking at as he looks to map out a way for ward. >> he mentioned, then the shutdown was solved and that he would be immigration resumed and he could be laying out his perpective on the context? some last several weeks are all solved right now and the entire episode has been bad in his perspective for the country. so again, president obama coming to the microphones and the state
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dining room and we're watching that deus at this moment. back to our strategists and let's go back here to talk about, danniella, this issue. now that the government is funded through january 15th, we have the debt ceiling extended until february 7th. what is the win-win scenario for both sides as they work towards those dates and a beg deal? do we expect's grand bargain of sorts? >> well, old leak to be opportunity, mim, and having to go through this or, and the mott rat caucus of the republican party will stand up to the city party folks and say there are things that we want, there are things that democrats want why don't we actually sit down, work
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together and see if there is some common ground because there is some there and come up with a big deal so we don't have to go through this another six weeks or another two months. >> just en, what's the win-win? >> i have to agree with that and that's what ooechl hopeful for. i'm hopeful that there is a possible grand bargain in the works. people may say that's a long shot, but i do believe that after the pain that we've seen the last few weeks that that will be the way to put the country on a fiscally stable path. both parties will have to give. harry reid will have to give and an ella talk about this role through the entire process. he was not going to negotiate. but did he take a backseat to this entire process? >> i think he learned the lesson of 2011 and sometimes again, you
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can't negotiate with people when their terms are completely unreasonable, and i think that republicans underestimated help. they thought he was going to cave or give up his position and he held firm and i think that's why we came to the conclusion that we did that is satisfactory for most democrats and i will say again, the sequester levels that democrats approve is nothing that anyone is happy about, but they understand the word compromise and that was their compromise and they weren't going to do anymore. i think the president did do, not negotiating the fill, faith and credit. >> is this approach that the president has taken, is this the approach that will work with the 113th congress for the remaining months that it has? >> well, i think that clearly, he took this approach. i probably thank he and his advisers think that the approach
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work. so if i was in i hope they can work the democrats, the wes in the senate and if they are aren't, and come 2014 or even 2016 or we'll continue to have these if we can't reach an agreement for the bipartisan basis. >> we are waiting if the president to come to the microphone and we expect that any moment as he reflects on the deal over the last several weeks. we have responses from several lawmakers. i want to go to patty murray and what she said. >> chairman ryan knows i'm not going vote for his budget. i know he not going to find line we were helicoptering after the
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budget meeting this morning. she said we're talking together and bell else? on felt that the senate was able to work together and he felt encouraged. do you expect that to continue there on the hill? >> i do. i do. especially on the senate where it seems like there are more adults in the senate than there are in the highways. . the democrat democrats will not point out what the democrats will do and you figure out something in the middle where both sides are giving and it's not just the democrats who keep giving and giving. so i definitely do, i'm being optimistic today and i do think that some sort of grand bargain will be reached. >> justin, you were probably watching mitch mcconnell. does he come out the winner? he was key to this. would that be your perspective? >> who with defshs credit in the
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shutdown. >> was he essential to the process then? how about that? did he help grease the wheels to get this done? >> absolutely he was, and i'm glad that he was tiebl do that with harry reid. there was a report that harry reid didn't want vice president biden because of his good relationship with senators and mitch mcconnell. i would give harry reid credit for his ability to work with mitch mcconnell and for them to work together. you on is maybe this is the some of the. a success. we'll be coming very shortly for the president to come to the microfons and we'll take a quick break. we'll be right back. ♪
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we expect president obama to come to the deus to make comments there in the state dining room about the agreement to reopen the government. we are also expected to hear from him about his map going forward for his administration. again, any moment right now expect him to come to the microphones. i want to bring in msnbc news senior political editor mark murray when has been watching this. 24 hours, a lot happened in that amount of time and i want to go to first read and what you wrote. you said all pain and no pain for gop. more unity for democrats. talk about that. >> well, you know, you ended up seeing what 16 days of a government shutdown ended up having on the republican party. look no further than our nbc/wall street journal poll that the favorability rating hit an all-time low and the health care law became more popular and democrats looked stronger heading into 2014 than they have been in a long time and that was a result for the republican party. for the democratic party, yes, their numbers also went down
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although not as much as the republicans and what we did see was so much more unity for the party and this was a party fraying a bit in the debates over syria, in the debate who would end up leading the federal reserve when the front-runner was larry summers. >> right. >> and you ended up seeing every single democrat vote for the legislation last night and that's a significant thing. >> you also wrote here in first read that president obama appears to be in a stronger position after the last several weeks. what about moderate republicans? what happens to them as the house caucus for the republicans try to be productive, try to be efficient moving forward in the coming months? >> i think everyone's looking to see if moderate republicans and remember, i'm not sure there are as many moderate republicans as there were for ten years ago, and whether these folks try to take control of their party. we have seen that in the united states senate and you've seen people like john mccain and susan collins speak out, one,
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against the tea party and in favor of compromise and you didn't see that as much. there are moderate republicans like king of new york. they did so not in a way in a way that they were able to mobilize other folks. going forward for this next debate over the budget and the next debate over government operations and the leadership has more control over the tea party caucus. >> mark murray, our senior political editor and i appreciate your perspective. >> we'll check the news feed this morning for you. there's word this morning that nsa had a role in the drone program. the documents leaked by edward snowden shows a close collaboration with the nsa and the cia. the report suggests successful drone attacks could not have been done without information from the agency. two prominent departures are coming from the nsa, and director keithal exandriner and
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the deputy are expected to leave in the coming months. >> lon snowden said he met with edward who has temporary asylum there upon arrival at the airport, they asked snowden what advice he gave to his son? >> to stay. to stay. but that's my advice. that's not necessarily what my son will do. he is comfortable. he's happy, and he is absolutely committed to what he has done. >> lon says he doesn't see his son coming home until there are major changes in the united states. some of the worst brushfires in australia's history are burning out of coknow troll around sydney. the fires have forced evacuations and blanketed sydney with smoke so thick some highways this to be closed. at least 30 homes have been destroyed and flames are threatening hundreds more. >> yesterday we showed you the salute seen around the world. corporal josh hargus saluting his commander from his hospital bed after receiving the purple
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heart for injuries he suffered in afghanistan. doctors thought he was unconscious at that time, and he fought through restraints to salute. >> it moves me to tears. i mean -- it's -- i think that's why it's gotten so much attention because it's moving people. i mean -- it's just such an amazing thing that he's done and that he did. i'm very fortunate that he's here. you know, i'm fortunate that he's still alive and that we still have to get to get our life together. >> he and taylor are expecting a baby this spring. mark cuban is off the hook. he failed to prove cuban had insider shares. after that verdict cuban said it's not like winning a championship like he did with the dallas mavericks because he didn't do anything wrong. is a daily game of "what if's".
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>> again, we're waiting for president obama to make comments very, very shortly about what has happened over the last 24 hours and that is the re-opening of the united states government. as we wait for him i want to bring back mark murray, our senior political editor and one of the comments that he made mark, here, over the last 48 hours is what he'd like to do once the deal was done. the deal is done. is he going to be focusing on items such as immigration which he said consistently is so important for him and if it is how he expects to get that done based on the polarization that we've seen within the last several weeks. >> i want to be surprised as he lays out some of the budget battles and what he and democrats are looking for in the month ahead before the government runs out of funding in the beginning of next year, but the biggest part of his speech is something that he hinted at in his remarks last night and that is restoring
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faith in government and yes, when you look at the polling and the democrats seem to be the side that ended up winning and didn't lose as badly as the republican party. remember democrats are in control of the white house and the senate. the democrats are the ones that want to see the government work and when you look at the institution of democracy and when you look at the institution of the u.s. government in washington, d.c., it is not funking very well and when it does function it's the high wire, last-minute type of deals that's not making anyone happy and that's what he'll end up talking about is a way of how do we actually make the u.s. government work for people and in both the interest of the democratic party and the republican party. >> also here, mark, they're setting the table for 2014. we finished 2013 with a very acrimonyious end. how the president might be part of that conversation in terms of who gets elected where. of course, the midterms were on everyone's mind. the democrats would be in a much
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better position than they were a month ago and it showed that democrats have a pretty high advantage when it comes to a generic ballot that they would pick up some seats if the election were held today according to most observers. the good news for republicans. the election is still a year away and there is the thought and i think i'm one of the ones who agrees with this that this issue might not be front and center of voters' minds 12 months from now. of course, if you end up having another high wire shutdown act. another type of endangerment of possible default that could end up damaging the republicans and could damage everyone's institution of the federal government, but republicans do have some time and time can sometimes heal a lot of wounds. >> the tea party movement now, what? three years old? where does this leave the tea party effect in 2014 as we finish out the year. >> it has a tremendous effect of the republican party.
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whether it's kansas senator pat roberts and senate minority leader and today it looks liked that cochran, the senator from tennessee will get the primary challenge and they're republican-leaning red states. if they end up beating establishment republican, the politics that you see are reflected in what we see over the past two weeks and a much more partisan and much more bitterly fought republicans and those are some of the remarks the president will talk about today. >> senior political editor mark murray. we continue to wait for the president for comments coming out of the white house. that does it for us on "jansing & company." i'm richard lui. thomas roberts is up next. >> hi. we are just a few moments away. hi, everybody. i am thomas roberts. topping our agenda today, the republicans and the agony of retreat. a lot of hand wringing and soul
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searching after tea party conservatives drove the country nearly to the point of self-governed catastrophe, but have they learned their lesson or are they gearing up for round two. for now the u.s. government is up and running. the employees have returned for the first time in 16 days. it could mean another crisis in a matter of weeks. uncle sam's bankroll stacked and only until january. the debt ceiling got a leg up, but only until february. >> one thing that politicians crave is approval. look at the disapproval that we have. we know we've got to start doing things differently. >> after the shutdown that cost the u.s. economy an estimated $24 billion. what was the takeaway? for one, senator ted cruz, tea party republican and face of the shutdown. he was outside of the capital, clearly not the look of a man defeated. >> if senate republican his united and supported house

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