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narrator: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. and by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. announcer: and now, "bbc news". christian: hello, i'n fraser, and this is the context. >> the situation was imaginatively crazy. if aid is going to come to us in this way, we don't want it. >> some began violently pushing and even trampling other gazans to death, looting the humanitarian supplies. >> so desperate for food, for freshwater or any supplies, they risked their lives to get any food, any supplies.
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>> no excuses. the truth is, aid flowing to gaza is nowhere nearly enough. ♪ christian: also on the program tonight, rishi sunak says forces in britain are trying to tear the country apart. steps from downing street tonight, the prime minister promised he would lead the fight against the poison that is dividing us. was the botched aisle election a free and fair election or did it quantify the nature of the political debate? also, despite the threats in moscow, an extraordinary turnout for the funeral of the opposition leader alexei navalny, and washington will airdrop humanitarian aid into the gaza strip. that is where we are going to start. there is growi international pressure for a full investigation tonight into what
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went wrong in gaza yesterday, as the aid convoy arrived. the israeli army has acknowledged that its soldiers opened fire at one point, but said most of the deaths were caused by a crush of lorries running people over. bbc verify has spent the day piecing together more details of what happened. this report contains some distressing images. >> shots cracked through the night. people start to move, then run to get away. in this section of the crowd, there is panic. as casualties streamed into local hospitals, the testimony of witnesses. >> the situation was unimaginably crazy. if aid is going to come to us in this way, we don't want it. we don't want to live on the blood of our children. >> the israelis say that at 4:48
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a.m., the convoy left from here under israeli tank escort and began to move towards the crowds waiting for food. the army supplied drone footage, but there is no way of telling the sequence of the images, because there is no timestamp. at 4:45, israel says people began to swarm the trucks. bodies can be seen lying on the ground, and others can be seen crawling away. this person looks as though they are dragging themselves using their upper body. we don't see what exactly caused these casualties. in its first statement, idf said that people were trampled rushing the trucks, and shots were fired by soldiers who felt threatened by the crowd. this time, seen withdrawing from the scene. later, the military blamed people in the crowd for
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the chaos. >> some began violently pushing and even trampling other gazans to death, looting the humanitarian supplies. the unfortunate incident resulted in dozens of gazans killed and injured. the israel defense forces operate according to the rules of engagement and international law. no idf strike was conducted towards the aid convoy. >> a doctor we spoke to in gaza said the dead and wounded he saw were all gunshot victims. >> [speaking another language] >> today, aid was dropped by
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jordan's air force into northern gaza. the hungry rushed towards the food, but nearly five months into this conflict, there is no operation to deliver aid on the scale that is needed, in a place where 85% of the population is displaced. >> people are so desperate for food, freshwater, for any supplies, they risk their lives in getting any food, any supplies to support their children, to support themselves. >> how many were shot, how many trampled in a desperate crush? it is not early enough to say -- it is too early to say. but the gazans wait for more aid. christian: a strong statement
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tonight from lord david cameron, the deaths of people in gaza waiting for an aid convoy yesterday were horrific. this must not happen again. the foreign secretary ss it in a wider context -- we cannot separate what happened yesterday from the inadequate aid supplies. in february, only half the number of trucks crossed into gaza then did in january, this is unacceptable. israel has an obligation to ensure more humanitarian aid reaches the people of gaza. he went on to say there are a series of bottlenecks that need addressing. the white house spokesperson john kirby has said in the last few minutes, they are trying to find alternative routes into gaza and will begin these age drops very shortly. the first age drop will be food -- aid drop will be food, he said, and aid drops will begin
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in the coming days. our next guest has worked in hostage negotiations for over 20 years and is back from does he -- dozens of meetings in the israeli parliament, the nested, and has his finger on the pulse of what is happening at the moment. in light of what has been reported there and the difficulties getting aid in and news tonight that seven hostages have been killed in the israeli bombardment, what did you ascertain from the israelis in the knesset? that is where we really need to start. >> thank you, christian. understandably and regrettably, israel and the political leadership is in a very traumatized situation. the feeling that i got right across the party divides was the need to finish the job, go into rafa, move north and allow the displaced people in the north to
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return to their homes. that means removing hezbollah from the south of lebanon. i n't think that's a very helpful atmosphere, especially in light of what we have just witnessed. i think we will see more horrific incidents like this unless we have an immediate cease-fire and somehow return to proper inclusive negotiations. christian: in my mind, oliver, the things that are converging at theoment. the deadline for robin on will be around -- ramadan will be around march 10, the calls for an investigation into this horrific incident yesterday in northern gaza, and the pressure from the families of the hostages. did you get any sense within the knesset that things have to change within the coming days? is there any talk of the coming deadline joe biden has spoken about? oliver: no. biden is speaking a language that is not nissen --
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listened to in the wider israeli society. the trauma of december and october is still deeply felt. even people who realize there is need for change are still traumatized, and do see the immediate action as a military one. they don't see the need to have an immediate cease-fire. we are alarmed, and rightly so, about what happened yesterday, because it was all in the open air. but we forget that practically every day of this war, 100 people or more have died. we saw the figures coming from america, that 25,000 of those were women and children. i think what we want more than anything, what israel needs now are real, critical friends who will put their arms around the country and say look, enough is
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enough. you cannot go on, because no one can see with the nsequences of these present actions will be. my fear, it will take a long, long time to get to a stage where we can have a sustainable stability in the whole of the region. christian: what about your conversations in the arab world? there is another party to this. hamas needs to release these hostages. they have been through an extremely traumatic period of time, some of them have been killed in the fighting that has ensued. what pressure is being brought to bear on hamas? oliver: it's very difficult. i got the sense that arab governments have a real problem, because since the horrors of the bombing in gaza are seen, there is a surge in support of hamas, right across the arab world. it would be difficult to see how
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they can put pressure. i think in a situation like this, i really feel for the families of those killed tonight, but also, we've got to realize the two .3 million people in gaza, in life changing conditions every day. the only way to solve this is have proper negotiations, negotiations that are aimed at finding at, not just getting all the hostages that are still alive back safely and also the protection of the people in gaza, but a pathway or process that will give us real security for both peoples in the region and will give us stability, durable stability and peace. that is what is desperately needed. that doesn't come through military pressure, it comes through negotiation. i think that's where all the
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pressure should be, on both sides. now is the time to enter into serious negotiation and reach beyond the immediate war and the causes of that immediate war, and find permanent peace in the region for both countries. christian: and i understand you are staging a one-day conference in cairo the next week. the u.s., u.k., egypt, they are all attending. the second is tonight, there are new air drops in the country. i have seen air drops while i have been in gaza, and it is not the answer to all the problems that are there. quite far from it, because logistically, it is very difficult to get food to those who need it. the difficulty, as you know, oliver, there is no one on the ground, the gaza police, looking after the aid convoys coming in. the agencies do not want to send their staff in and truck drivers , you can understand why they
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don't want to risk their lives after what we saw yesterday unfolding in northern gaza. what can be done to get sufficient aid to the people who need it? oliver: i think really and truly, the pressure should be put on israel to observe its duties under its national and provide -- processing should be used. there are means of getting aid in without the air drops. that is a most unsuitable way. what i was told in talks with some of the u.n. people in jerusalem, who showed this video footage, the crime families trying to get a hold of this aid and charge starving people extraordinary prices for what we were told was a bag of wheat, nearly $1000. we have to find a way, as you rightly said, the police are removed.
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it is the best and only way, christian, i keep coming back, a permanent cease-fire and negotiations to end this conflict once and for all. we cannot go on in this cycle. this is the fifth war i have witnessed in 20 years. i will say, nothing like the previous wars, or nothing like the scale of the present one. christian: the report from the hamas led to health ministry tonight, 10 children -- the 10th child in gaza has died from starvation. oliver, we are grateful for you coming on the program tonight. around the world and across the u.k., you are watching bbc news. let's have a look at some of the headlines today -- the metropolitan police say three people have been injured after a shooting in south london. officers were chasing a moped when the shotgun was fired from
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it. two people suffered injuries and are being treated in hospital. a third person was injured by the moped.none of the injuries are life-threatening. and the men who murdered his ex-girlfriend and her new boyfriend was told he will never be released again. this was in may of last year. the government spending watchdog says that the u.k. will pay at least 370 pounds to rwanda -- 370 million pounds to rwanda over a five-year period. labor says the new figures are a national scandal. you are alive with bbc news. thousands of people have gathered on the streets of
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moscow, defying a heavy police presence, to pay their last respects to russia's main opposition leader, alexei navalny. the crowds chanted his name as his funeral service was held, two weeks after he died in prison. his mother was among the mourners and allowed into the cemetery to see him buried, but his wife decided not to travel to russia. our russia editor steve rosenberg sent this report from moscow. >> they came to stay -- say goodbye to the men who had given them hope, but died in prison. by the church, they wanted to pay their last respects. >> he was our hope. i feel like i am burying my own son. >> he is the only person i could trust, and i was dreaming of him to become our president, really,
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and it is a huge tragedy for me and my people. [applause] >> the kremlin had called mr. navalny an extremeist, and a criminal, but listen to the reaction when his coffin arrived. now, the whole street was watching and chanting the name of putin's fiercest opponent, navalny. the climate of fear that has descended on russia seemed to clear for a time, despite all the police were here. note to war. >> note to war -- no to war, they chanted.
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mr. navalny's death, first and foremost, a family tragedy. when the service was over, the coffin was carried back to the hearse. then, from his supporters, a spontaneous show of respect for the men who had challenged the kremlin. with carnations and roses, they sent him on his final journey. and the crowds followed. as they walked towards the cemetery, they chanted the kind of antigovernment slogans unheard on russian streets for two years. >> freedom to political prisoners, and russia will be free. >> the authorities did not want alexei navalny's funeral to become a public event, of a man who was a vocal opponent of the emlin. but that is what it is turning into.
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>> one tribute today came in a message from mr. navalny's wife, yulia. she said farewell by posting, i don't know how to live without you, but i will try my best to make you up there happy for me, and proud. alexei navalny was laid to rest. a band played music from terminator two and the sinnott -- sinatra classic "my way ." 's way had been to challenge the kremlin, and he had lost. steve rosenberg, moscow. christian: --met alexei navalny back in 2011. your reflections on what you witnessed in moscow today? >> good evening. it is an astonishing sight of today's atmosphere of repression in russia, to see thousands of brave russians out in the
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streets, when it has been proven in the past that protests, kgb infiltrators can in plain get into the crowd and antagonize the population in order to spur more hard-line actions from the police and authorities. my principal reaction is one of deep sadness, for the mother and father, brother and husband. they have lost their other halves, etc. russia does not have another navalny. there is not another one waiting in the wings right now. christian: that is an interesting point you made. i asked earlier in the week who was going to carry the mantle? not only oppose vladimir putin, but lift the lid on the corruption that surrounds the kremlin. who is capable of fulfilling that role? >> it is a good question.
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you are right to point out that aspect, because that is exactly how vladimir putin, how navalny came into the public eye. what all russians agree on is not on the war, they are split on that, but that russia is a corrupt country. in terms of who else, so many have been killed and exiled. there is certainly nobody inside russia, that will be far too risky of a prospect, running against alexei -- vladimir putin and the so-called elections. there is his widow, and there have been discussions of her carrying on hit the mantle -- carrying on the mantle in the wake of his death. he was against ed, i have to say, but what has happened may change her mind.
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christian: and she said sanctions were not working, and the parliament has to get to the people who are the real opposition in russia. despite of the intimidation and pressure that is there, perhaps there is more antigovernment feeling than we suppose in the west. >> it depends. it's a complex picture. russia is a museum of contradictory truths and if you take the war, for example, we know that war is unpopular, especially if you will send your son or husband to war. we also know a great mass of the russian population is broadly behind the war in many cases. russia is not a frustrated democracy trying to get out, only held back by blatt amir putin. they have been indoctrinated and imbibed with historical revisionism and state run tv which tells the truth. the funeral was not shown on television that day whatsoever.
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christian: thank you for joining us this evening. the british prime minister rishi sunak has made a direct appeal tonight to the country to come together and "beat the poison" that he believes is tearing the country apart. it is unusual for the prime minister to speak from the podium, but he was concerned by a shocking raise of -- some candidates claimed they faced intimidation's from certain sections of the community. looking at a response, rishi sunak was right to advocate unity and to condemn the unacceptable and intimidatory behavior we have seen. but why now, and why in that format? we heard from rishi sunak earlier in the day, when he responded to the rochdale
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election result, the campaign was very divisive. a couple of hours later, he decided he had not given a full enough response and as a result, the election of george galloway, a former labor mp now representing the workers party of britain. he took aim at george gallow himself, describing the victory as beyond alarming and talking about extremists threatening democracy, really strong rhetoric, forces trying to tear us apart and people trying to hijack protests. some tough rhetoric from rishi sunak, but there was a bit more of an attempt to reach out as well. we did not hear a repeat of his phrase mob rule, which he said was threatening democracy. he was careful to reference both anti-muslim hatred, in his
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words, and antisemitism. he also mentioned islamist extremism at far right extremism as to sides of the same coin. i think also, he did find himself in an uncomfortable position, taking aim at a newly elected, democratically elected -- christian: in response, george galloway said i despise the prime minister and the skins are under you. nothing given in return. >> he sees this as a huge two fingers up to the main party, and whether that plays out in the general election, we will have to see, but it is a big victory for a fringe party, if you like, for independent candidates to, considering an independent candidate came in second in the rochdale election. but it is interesting that rishi sunak has, upon reflection, decided the election of george
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galloway, it prompted him to make this bigs to -- big speech on extremism. christian: we are going to a short break on the others, and narrator: funding for this presentation of this program is provided by.. man: bdo. accountants and advisors. narrator: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. and by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ announcer: "usa today" calls it, "arguably the best bargain in streaming." that's because the free pbs app lets you watch the best of pbs anytime, anywhere.
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