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like you. thank you. >> welcome to new lives -- welcome to the newshour. the federal reserve raised interest rate, it's 10th consecutive rate hike. chairman powell suggested they may pause future hikes if the economy continues to cool. during the press conference, powell was asked why he remained optimistic the ongoing rate increases would not tip the economy into a recession. he cited the state of the job market. >> it wasn't supposed to be possible for job openings to decline as much as they have declined with unemployment going up. there are no promises in this. it seems it is possible we will continue to have a cooling in the labor market without having the big increases in unemployment going with many prior episodes. it would be against history. >> to soar through the thinking

and the feds approach, i'm joined by david wessel, the director of the hutchins center on fiscal and monetary policy. good to see you. paul was asked why this increase when the economy does seem to be cooling. >> jay powell is determined not to let inflation continue to be at these levels. jay powell idolizes paul volcker, who broke the back of inflation. he is willing to take a recession if that is what it takes to bring inflation down. what was interesting, he admitted the fed staff thinks we will have a recession, 400 phd economist, he happens to disagree. >> it is the fastest series of rate increase since the 19 80's. inflation has become too moderate. still above the 2% goal they want to hit. are we going to see more increases ahead? >> we don't know. he signaled it may be the last

one for a while. he did not come it -- he did not commit. the incoming data, inflation cool off or not, and focus on l. if they see a lot of that, it may not raise rates again. >> inflation has been stubbornly high for two years. when you look at this particular economy, persistent price increases, help us understand why it has been so hard to stand out. >> we get inflation in large part when demand grows faster. and demand has remained very strong. consumer spending has been strong. partly because people have jobs. and a lot of companies have raised prices because they can. we are not quite done with the supply chain problems that marked the covid episode.

it is a surprise inflation has been so separate. that is why the fed has been so aggressive raising rates. >> why do you think powell is so optimistic he can avoid a recession? >> he knows if he said we would have a recession, everyone would panic. and i believe he hopes we won't have a recession, but we don't believe in his heart of hearts he thinks it is likely. >> there are other economic challenges. three bank failures in recent months. broader concerns about the fiscal sector. how does that complicate the fed's efforts? >> the fed knows it raises interest rates, it gets more expensive for people to borrow, they spend less money, get less demand. that is what the textbook says. suddenly, they have another factor. how much bankers are going to pull in their horns, how much they are going to raise the standards for living. how much of a credit crunch we will have. jay powell made clear a credit

crunch is like a rate increase. the bigger the credit crunch, the less they have to raise rates. they are watching carefully not to see these three banks, but what the rest of the banks are doing. it is serious for businesses that depend on these regional banks. >> there is a showdown over raising the debt limit creating a lot of uncertainty but leading to turmoil, even if we do not default. how could that impact future fed action? >> if you are the fed and looking towards a meeting in mid-june, you say we are not going to raise rates in the middle of a debt ceiling crisis. that may be the reason this is the last rate increase for a while. >> how should everyday consumers look at this data and information coming in? >> one thing jay powell made clear is we are not going to see rate cuts anytime soon. the financial markets have been

expecting rate cuts. i have not been making plans and expectations the fed will be cutting rates for the end of the year. >> we will wait and watch and welcome you back. thank you for being here. ♪ >> in the days other headlines, a man started shooting at a medical building in midtown atlanta this afternoon, killing one person and injuring four. all of the victims were women. the 24-year-old gunman remained at large. officers swarmed the scene and shut down traffic in the busy commercial area. a shelter-in-place advisory lifted several hours later. no word on the possible motive. police in texas have arrested two people for allegedly helping a mass shooter eluding manhunt after he killed five neighbors. his wife and her friend were jailed overnight.

he himself was captured hours earlier north of houston. the announcement brought an end to the four-day search. >> bottom line is we have this man in custody. he was caught hiding in a closet underneath some laundry. >> he was charged with five counts of first-degree murder. investigators in oklahoma say a convicted rapist fatally shot six people then took his own life. the bodies were found monday at a home near the town of henrietta about 90 miles east of oklahoma city. police said jesse mcfadden killed his wife and five teenagers, then himself. he was facing trial on charges of soliciting images of child sex abuse. in serbia, a 13-year-old boy shot dead aid of his fellow students and a guard at a school today. police arrested the shooter after he called them when the attack ended. he planned it for a month, but

they offered no motive. no guns are widely available in the region after the balkan wars in the 1990's. mass shootings are increasingly rare. a court convicted a dissident journalist whose arrest sparked international outrage two years ago. -- was living in exile when officials used a bomb hoax to divert his commercial flight to minsk. he was sentenced to eight years in prison on charges of inciting riots and plotting a coup. his messaging channel had been used to coordinate protests. the military rulers in myanmar began releasing more than 2100 political prisoners. the regime said they are being freed as a humanitarian gesture on the most important buddhist holy day of the year and reunited with their families. thousands of other political prisoners remain in jail. the u.n. humanitarian chief appealing to the warring factions in sudan to let humanitarian agencies work in safety.

martin griffiths visited sudan where thousands of refugees are camped. he told the news conference the situation is desperate. >> we need supplies. six traps of theirs, which were looted despite assurances of safety and security. it is a volatile environment. >> the fighting in sudan has killed at least 550 people and forced hundreds of thousands to flee. authorities in rwanda say at least 129 people are dead in a flood disaster and worn it will get worse. torrential rain struck the western and northern parts of the country last weekend affected neighboring uganda. it sent streams flowing down roads and dredged people's homes.

mudslides have hampered rescue efforts. for the second time in less than a week, iran has ceased an oil tiger -- oil tanker. a navy drone showed iranian high-speed boats surrounding the panama flagship. it follows reports u.s. authorities ordered the recent seizure of a ship carrying iranian oil off southeast asia. back in this country, the cdc reports the rate of overdose deaths linked to the fentanyl more than triple over five years. new numbers show the rate for every 100,000 people jumped from 5.7 deaths in 2016 to more than 21 in 2021. the deaths from heroin and oxycodone fell during that same period. the federal trade commission accused facebook of failing to protect children's privacy. the agency charged that the social media giant violated a 2020 order that put users of the messenger kids app at risk. it proposed a ban on facebook

profiting from data on minors. the company called the announcement a political stunt. on wall street, stocks lost ground amid doubts inflation will let the federal reserve begin lowering interest rates this year. the dow jones industrial average lost 270 points to close at 33,000 414. the nasdaq fell 55 points. s&p 500 slipped nearly 29. the rock and roll hall of fame announced its class of 2023. missy elliott made history as the first female hip-hop artist to be inducted. she is joined by willie nelson, cheryl croak, and the late george michael. the induction ceremony will be november 3 in new york. communities on the u.s.-mexico border prepare for the end of a covid era immigration rule. the families of americans detained abroad criticized the biden administration.

an art historian brings attention to women who have been overlooked. plus much more. >> this is the pbs newshour, from weta studios in washington and in the west from the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. >> moscow woke to a dramatic image. an apparent drone exploding over the kremlin, the heart of russian power. the russian president's press service accused ukraine of a failed attach a nation -- assassination attempt. kyiv denies involvement. you have been reporting on this all day. what do we know at this hour about what happened? >> moscow says two drones flew over the kremlin after about 2:00 in the morning. cameras filmed two explosions about 15 minutes apart. you see the drone highlighted and the explosion 15 minutes apart.

analysts say what we are watching is a small drone probably unarmed, exploded or brought down by russian air defense. against russian president vladimirpt putin, even though he was not in the kremlin at the time. the ukrainian president visiting finland denied any involvement. >> we don't attack vladimir putin or moscow. we are defending our villages and cities. we don't have enough weapons for this. and we did not attack putin. we live in to tribunal. >> u.s. officials are working on what they think actually happened. one official said regardless of the origin, the u.s. was not

given any warning. we heard u.s. skepticism of russia's claims from secretary of state antony blinken talking to the washington post david ignatius. >> i have seen the reports. i can't in any way validate them. we simply don't know. i would take anything coming out of the kremlin with a very large shaker assault. >> some skepticism over russia. what we heard from russian pro-war bloggers today is this was not going to change the war. that seemed to indicate it wasn't any kind of dramatic or preclude to any escalation. >> that is dramatic video. anyone examining it, talking to sources. what do they believe happened? >> some believe this could have been a russian false flag.

meaning the kremlin launched the drone itself, brought the drone down itself, in order to preclude some kind of escalation in ukraine, or to add to the narrative putin has been saying it is ukraine attacking russia. others say it is unlikely. because it revealed the vulnerability of russia's air defense. the fact the drone actually got over the kremlin and was not exploded until it was actually inside the kremlin complex. they point out there were multiple drone crashes in recent days around moscow. likely by independent people acting on ukraine's behalf, or by ukraine itself. they have drones that fit this description, both ukrainian made and chinese made. a russian studies analyst at the think tank says this could have been kyiv sending a signal. >> if it was a ukrainian drone

strike dedicated to the russian military and government that ukraine can strike into russia, it may have been a symbolic attack to demonstrate that next time or the time after that, a ukrainian drone can carry a lot more bombs, more munitions, can be a lot more precise. >> kyiv denies involvement. the u.s. reiterated it neither encourages or enables ukraine to attack in russia. what kyiv doesn't deny, including to me last week by ukraine's military intelligence chief is the idea it uses ukrainian weapons to attack inside russia. we have seen an uptick of those attacks, derailment of trains along russia's supply lines into ukraine. we have also seen an explosion of a fuel storage depot. u.s. officials call these shaping operations to degrade russian supply lines ahead of ukraine's expected counteroffensive. >> we now have comments from

volodymyr zelenskyy commenting on the recent u.s. intelligence leaks. especially the ones that revealed ukrainian military information. what did he have to say? >> we spoke to two senior officials about documents that really detailed a lot of information about ukraine's military. and they both downplayed the documents and suggested they had no impact on ukraine or the bilateral relationship. a zielinski did not. he gave an interview to the washington post. he was very critical, he did not receive any information before hand and said "it is unprofitable for us. it is not beneficial to the reputation of the white house. i believe it is not beneficial to the reputation of the united states." the documents reveal ukrainian air defense shortages, details of the units about to launch the counteroffensive of russia, they

also revealed the u.s. told kyiv not to attack moscow on the one-year anniversary of the full school invasion and that the u.s. spies on senior staff and asked if he was angry about u.s. spine. he indicated airing his private feelings were not worth the potential diplomatic harm. the secretary of state antony blinken, the defense department, joint chiefs of staff reached out to their counterparts as the leaks the news and frankly, both sides were quite surprised, u.s. officials taking it back and caught off guard. >> the ripple effects still being felt. thank you for your reporting. the biden administration rushing to prepare for an increase in migrants at the southern border as the pandemic air deportation policy is set to end in a matter

of days. an additional 1500 u.s. troops are being sent to the u.s.-mexico border next week to help with administrative tasks as local communities brace for the change. more on how one border city is preparing. >> el paso, texas is a critical stop of migrants seeking asylum from mexico and south and central america. or than 5000 migrants are in customs and border patrol custody already with more arriving every day. el paso's mayor declared a humanitarian state of emergency ahead of the end of title 42. a policy that is allowed for the immediate expulsion of millions of migrants. joining us is -- bishop mark sykes. thank you for joining us. your church helps provide shelter for migrants that are seeking asylum at the u.s.-mexico border. how is your diocese preparing

for the end of title 42? >> we are meeting with all of the people involved in the process from the local counties and city officials to border enforcement agencies, ngos, and others. we are trying to come together with meetings to begin to address this constantly changing situation. >> i talked to immigration lawyers and advocates who said the biden administration reached out about two days ago to organizations on the ground about how to plan for the lifting of title 42. do you feel as though you are receiving adequate guidance or assistance from federal authorities? >> we have been concerned for quite a while that it seems to have been a fairly well-kept secret whatever was being planned. it certainly would have been helpful to know earlier.

i understand a lot of things have been in the works. but it has left us feeling as though we don't know what to prepare for. >> what are you hearing from el paso residents on the u.s. side of the border as well as on the mexico side as you prepare for more migrants to start crossing? >> we are a place that is very familiar with the passage of people across the border. we are a border community. by that, i mean everyone here has connections across the border. so the presence of immigrants coming through is just part of our dna in a certain way. so there is a general openness and empathy with those who are feeling forced to leave their homes and to come. i think people here are very

concerned about whether we can handle the numbers coming to us. there are concerns about whether that will have a negative impact on our community. even more than that, whether these people are going to be adequately cared for. >> the continued use of title 42 has been criticized by immigration advocates, the continued use of the biden administration because of the fact it allowed customs and border patrol to immediately expel migrants seeking asylum without due process. now the biden administration is about to finalize a new regulation that would make it extremely difficult, largely block migrants from seeking asylum if they travel through other countries to get to the u.s. do you think president biden made good on his promises to

institute a more humane immigration policy compared to his predecessor? >> i think the biden administration came in with great hopes and plans and i'm presuming that they still want to have a more human process. the concern about the numbers we are facing has left them choosing options that we really have concerns. we believe these policies will have long-term negative impact on the fundamental right of asylum supported international law and national law. we thought we had learned after world war ii when we turned away and boats of jewish people trying to find refuge in the united states that the nations, not just some nations, every nation has the responsibility to

accept these people at our doors. yes they have to comply with a certain process, prove their needs, but what is at risk right now is people who are fleeing to us will have no other place to go. sometimes they talk about these other nations that they passed through as being safe third countries. i don't know of a safe third country in central america. they are all facing significant problems. so i wonder where these people are going to turn. >> the president is sending an additional 1500 troops down to border communities like yours in el paso. do you think these extra troops are necessary? >> we are concerned about the mitarization of the situation. they're going to be very

attentive to make sure the administration sticks to what it said that these troops are not going to be involved in the military style enforcement, but rather surveillance and other things. >> thank you so much for your time. >> the fact our country is divided is not new. and in many respects, it can be traced back to the founding of a nation on the promise of freedom while dependent on slavery one black enslaved people could not participate in the democracy being created. judy woodruff examines how that foundational contradiction has evolved over time and what it means for our challenges today in the latest installment of america at a crossroads. >> from the ongoing push for

equality in schools, government, and in the community to the communities of color by white supremacist. in the killing of unarmed black man and women by police. america's historic division over race remains at the heart of so many conflicts we see today. at the lincoln memorial honoring a president who held our nation together as that division nearly tore it apart. i met theodore johnson, who has been wrestling with questions surrounding our history, his own place in it, and the precarious moment we find ourselves in today. >> a lot of people would argue this country is as divided now as it has been at any time since the civil war. do you see it that way? >> i don't. lincoln said the house divided

against the south cannot stand. talking about a nation hassling, but not close to that. we've got series issues we need to tackle. if we don't get it under control, it can spiral out of control and reach another point in history where the next essential threat is posed by the fact americans don't get along with one another. >> for years, johnson has been writing about race, history, politics, and democracy, including his 2021 book when the stars began to fall. >> thinking about 2026. >> the numerical foundation in washington is now working on a project examining the country as it approaches 250 years since the signing of the declaration of independence. >> we have come a long way. i'm a black man in america in 2023. while things are not perfect, i would much rather be here than a black man in america.

that is a story of national progress. but that progress was not inevitable. the progress was the result of people challenging the government, the progress was a result of protest, people giving their lives, energy, sweat, giving up their ability to live a peaceful life to fight for the right of future generations to have a better version of america than they had. >> johnson's writing and thinking on these big questions are heavily influenced by his personal history, starting with his maternal great-grandmother. raised during the jim crow era. >> we called him daddy joe. in this picture, he is at a fair. this is the 1950's. he's in farming gear, coveralls with his boots polished. behind him are two american flags angled over each shoulder.

everything around him told them this country did not appreciate them, that they did not belong, and they instilled in their children a faith in america, a faith in hard work. a belief that if you work hard enough, maybe this country will not treat you fairly. you will make more progress, more of a way for yourself for your families in previous generations. >> that promise of progress materialized in his parents, the first and their families to complete college in north carolina and settled there to work for ibm. >> i grew up like the cosby kids, in raleigh, north carolina in the suburbs lc surrounded by white neighbors. i had no excuse for not doing well here. so it is incumbent upon me to carry that optimism and face forward. >> johnson attended hampton university. the historically black college

in virginia. he studied mathematics. looking for purpose afterwards, he joined the navy where he would go on to serve for 20 years, rising to the rank of commander. while in the navy, he worked in national security in the obama white house and as a speechwriter at the pentagon for the joint chiefs of staff. but the questions of his place in this country and his children's became -- became unavoidable. the 2012 death of trayvon martin , a 17-year-old boy shot to death in florida for simply walking down the street was a turning point. >> that concern that began in 2012 only accelerated as the years went by because of the increased number of the very public deaths of black men and women often caught on camera at the hands of police officers. they make their way into social media at the same time my sons

are coming-of-age and they are coming to me with these videos asking why this continues to happen. i'm sorry. i did not have a good answer for them. i could only tell them about the history of our country, the work people have done to ensure that these things happen less frequently. i almost did not have an option personally. except to change my career. except to leave the military and begin thinking about these issues more seriously. >> johnson's return to school studying law and policy and earning his doctoral degree writing about the history of civil rights and the black vote in america. now a columnist at the washington post, he continues to explore the contradictions he's experienced, reconciling his family history with his own. the promise of america now with

the reality that often falls short. >> this ability to hold a love of country at the same time as a critique of the country together, played out on a football field for my family one friday evening. one of my sons was playing football, i am a retired navy guy, standing at attention during the national anthem. there were parents around who did not like the fact i was kneeling, it was audible and clear. the flag the team carries out had sort of tumbled to the ground and i ran down and picked it up and posted it back up and the same folks who were making remarks about my kid kneeling stepped into the aisle to thank me for posting the flag up, for respecting the flag. in that moment, my family was still recognizing a pride in country through my sort of standing attention and a reckoning the country needs,

especially around the question of race my son was protesting. that seems to be a common strain t stjuno fbuora lote of amer mi, especially black americans who have served in every war the country has ever had and yet returned from war to a nation that did not treat them as full citizens, did not treat them as equal. >> you have written about trying to understand why many white americans are having difficulty with what is happening in our country, demographic changes, the fact more minorities are serving in roles of leadership in our country. what are you finding out as you try and understand that? >> here's how i think about it. when you were raised in a country that tells you you are the descendants of a remarkable set of men that created a new country on the idea of quality,

liberty, justice, and democracy. you're very proud of that heritage. suddenly people come along and that story is not complete. we were part of that story two. not only are they insisting to be part of that story, but through demographics, elections, economics, they are requiring more power they did not have in earlier versions of america. this is a status loss, it feels very much like any other kind of loss. like losing money or any sort of physical security. it doesn't mean they hold racial hatred or that they despise other folks, but it means that sense of loss will often cause some kind of backlash to ensure their stability of identity, history, and heritage is not interrupted. >> at the lincoln memorial, a reminder of the country's willingness to tear itself apart over these questions. i asked johnson how he sees us getting through this moment. >> i think the pursuit is more

important than arriving there. i don't know we will ever get to a place where the ideals laid out in our declaration and the constitution have been fully achieved. perhaps i read that america might be the most unachievable project. it may not be possible for us to live in a democracy this large, this diverse where we are created equal. not pursuing that is the death of the american idea, what the country could be. when we give up the going together in the hyper-partisan, the culture war stuff is breaking up our ability to go together. not only will we never get there, we won't be in the same journey together anymore. the political violence is likely to follow and the dream, the potential of the american experiment perhaps lost. >> the view of one man who sees the progress made and who hopes it will continue.

for the pbs newshour, i'm judy woodruff. >> families of americans detained abroad turning up the pressure on the biden administration to bring loved ones home. outside the white house, these 20 families gathered, calling for president biden to meet with them and use all tools necessary to bring those loved ones home. this weekend at the white house correspondents dinner, president biden spoke directly to some of those families. >> across government, experts working day and night to bring our fellow americans home. my commitment is to bring them home. >> among those at today's demonstration, a family of three americans held in iran. joining me here in the studio

are the daughters of two of those men. welcome. thank you for being here. your families have been fighting for your father's release, for many others release for five years, you have been speaking with officials and giving interviews. why this demonstration outside the white house? >> we have been speaking out for five years. with every day, it becomes more evident how crucial it is for the president and the american government to bring our loved ones home. we don't know what tomorrow brings. for example, our father was caught in the fire in the riots just a few months ago. he very nearly died. whenever we can come together and get our voices heard and perhaps have the chance to speak

with president biden, that is what we are trying to do. >> when is the last time you spoke to your dad? >> recently. we were lucky enough to talk to him. there has been -- spoke to him. it really just shows the pressure we are under and that time is of essence. they have to be home as soon as possible. >> when is the last time you talked to your dad? >> i spoke to him yesterday. but i think he really cherished every phone call you get, because you never know when the next one will come. he's not doing well. six years that he's there. still haven't seen signs of them coming home. my father is 67 years old, a history of cancer, has

contracted covid three times. his mental and physical health is at risk every single day he's there. >> you and the other family members are urging president biden to use every tool at his disposal. the white house are working around the clock. they imposed new sanctions on an iranian intelligence group on four senior officials. what tool do you want them to use you don't see them using now? >> i don't think we are i position to know that frankly. i thinkn itht is great they hae imposed sanctions. it is a great way to deter hostage taking in the future. deterrents are not bringing our father's home. they really need to work on deterring this from happening but bringing home americans who are currently being held. >> how much of an update do you get from officials? do you know about any specific negotiations or proposed deal to

help your father? >> everything we know is everything the public knows. we continuously keep told their priority, the end of the day the administration has been in place for 27 months and we are hearing the same thing. the easiest first step is for president biden to meet the families and give loved ones hope that he took the first step to believe that they actually are a priority. and furthermore to see the actions and notch the words. >> we have reported on this before. the family of the wall street journal reported detained in russia since late march, his family received a call from president biden. what is your understanding of why that has not happened? >> i honestly don't understand why the president has not called us, why he will not speak with us. he should give us the same

opportunity. a few weeks ago, he put his life at risk calling from a phone to a news reporter here begging for president biden to speak to our families. still he has not. i don't understand why. three daughters begging for our president to talk to us to bring our dads home. i would like to see that happen. i would like the chance to speak with him. >> i would equally agree with her. no idea what we have asked countless times. i was actually with her when we had a fortuitousoment 44 days ago, we had enough time for him to hand him a letter asking him to meet with us. we didn't know the messages were not getting to him. now we know that he directly knows from our families he's asking for the meeting. 44 days have gone by and we are

wondering why, what it will take for him to give us time to meet with us. how much their lives are at risk every day that they are there. >> now already handed to him. >> does it feel to you -- a number of americans detained in a number of countries overseas, does it feel in any way those who are detained in iran are being seen differently by the administration? an incredibly complicated political situation, nuclear talks. do you feel your families are being treated in some way? >> i don't know if we are being treated differently. i will say the administration has been able to get individuals who are being held hostage out of russia. as russia is currently in a war. i cannot see a situation more complicated than that one. i don't understand how our

situations are any more complicated than that. >> the white house will say a meeting doesn't matter that much. we have heard before secretary blinken says he carries a card in his pocket with the names of detained americans listed on it that they are working around the clock. regardless of whether they have time for a call or meeting. help us understand why a face-to-face meeting is so important. >> i know the president is an apathetic man. he believes the family has to be whole. i want to tell him we need our family to be whole again. i want to sit down and tell him how scared we are. tell him about our family our dad, how much they need him. sentiments are nice, it is a priority they carry a card. we need action. >> given how complicated it is, the lead hostage negotiator said this is very complicated. iran is very difficult to deal with.

do you think a face-to-face meeting would shake something loose for some reason? >> i think so. i think president biden is a man of compassion. meaning for us and hearing our stories, the opportunity to see the faces of families suffering. he knows the pain when you lose a member of your family. i think seeing our father's name on a piece of paper and being able to connect it back to our faces it makes it a more real situation. we heard firsthand yesterday from trevor reed's father how much it meant to them when they met with president biden and how much it gave hope to their loved ones in prison. we saw their loved ones come home shortly after that. >> we want to thank all three of you. your father and families, thank you for being here to talk to us. >> thank you so much.

>> how many women artists can you name? that was a question that katie hessel, then a 21-year-old art history major asked herself. the results were disappointing. so she sat out to learn and teach herself and others. the result is out now. the story of art without men. jeffrey brown has a look for the arts and culture series. >> if you want to explore the history of western art, you cannot do better men come to new york's metropolitan museum of art. that is what we did. >> you proposed this room when we talked about doing this interview. i see why. >> it is an extraordinary work, the horse fair from 1882. just the scale of it is

extraordinary. not only just among the works, but a fact a woman patent this in the 1850's. >> one painting by one woman. part of a much larger little-known history laid out in her new book the story of art without men. it happens that she is an artist i'm familiar with, but only by chance. in 2020, we visited her 19th-century home, a small museum outside of paris. as part of a story on france's efforts to preserve lesser-known cultural institutions falling into disrepair. in our lifetime, she achieved no small renowned, but it did not last and she never made it into the mainstream art history books. certainly not the classic hessel studied in school, the story of art. first published in 1950 and reprinted for decades since. >> this is a book many people study as the bible of hard hit

art history. >> i love it because it is for everyone. the fact he writes in such beautiful prose anyone can understand. terms such as the renaissance, you can look it up. he does not include any woman artists. he includes one in his 16th edition. which is crazy. the fact i love the book growing up. if he was going to leave out women, i would leave out men. >> we are gathering today explain -- >> scheepers created an instrument -- instagram many women artists. many don't have an opportunity to grow as artist without being able to draw live models. gained some exposure but were soon forgotten. her book continues such stories. you might know of artemisia genta lenski from the 1600s given major exhibition and

coverage, including on our program. what about earlier still? katerina van hammes and >> >>. a fantastic artist working in the 15 50's. she made the remarkable worth called self-portrait of bernadino county. her and her teacher. we realized it is her painting the picture and her teacher painting her. >> they were tribute to her contemporary friends halls, fetching higher prices. >> the museum we are sitting in right now, they brought a work in 1917 for $200,000 under the impression it was by jock louis divvied. we have covered all of these artworks. >> are women not in these classic texts because historians did not know of them, or because they knew of them but did not

value them enough? >> this is the ultimate question i want to ask my predecessors from 100 years ago. what happened to these women's artists? i don't really know. it was not ignorance or purposeful. >> the bulk of his history offers art from the 1800s and after. different periods, countries of origin, artistic styles, and kinds of art, including quilting often dismissed as craft. >> i don't agree we should dismiss certain art forms and create a hierarchy. it is with the academies really did. painting sculptures at the top and embroidering craft like decorative arts is at the bottom. >> this is a room of images of women, some by women. >> including this fantastic work. >> she used this painting from

1900 to make a broader case, that we might even rethink the meaning of modern art. >> it means the participation of women artists. women artists no longer under completely men, and decide what they want to make. >> making this in definition of modernity. not only in the picture, but making the picture. >> an element of modernity, it is radical. we are seeing that perspective for the very first time. >> her rewriting of the canon brings us up through the 20th century 10 now, with lesser and better-known names. she's careful to credit decades of scholarship and also cites the important activism of women such as the guerrilla girls, whose famous 1989 poster asked do women have to be naked to get into the met museum? more work by women is on the walls. >> one of the current special exhibitions is by the

contemporary british painter cecily brown, who appears in one of her final sections. >> the contemporary art world is filled with extraordinary women artists. >> a woman artists price goes average for just 10 sent of a male artists. we are still at such a hindrance. so much is happening right now. the gender pay gap is hopefully improving. it comes with every angle of society. that is why we want to achieve the sense of equality. his progress happening? i would like to think so. >> a continuing story. the story of art with and without men. for the pbs newshour, i'm jeffrey brown at the metropolitan museum of art in new york. >> quality through art. that is the newshour for tonight. join us tomorrow for a story of

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