found more americans were leaving the catholic church at higher rating than any other religion. >> i feel that i can be spiritual anywhere. i don't necessarily have to go to a church. and i feel like that's the old school way of thinking. >> i think there has been a lot of bad news about the catholics, religion, about the priests in general. and i think people have turned around and walked way from that. >> we have a lot of young people that grew up in the catholic church, but they don't feel that they're getting the message. >> they feel they're not accepted. they feel they might be ostracized. they feel that like they don't belong to the church. >> reporter: we spoke with patrick egan, who left the catholic church as a teenager, only to come back in search of a community. he is now a leader at a local parish. does the catholic church feel different under pope francis? >> yes. francis is really trying to open the door to participation by people who have been traditionally outside of the

hierarchy. >> reporter: he blames strict adherence to ideology for the decline, but says that can change. what do you think it would change for the catholic church to be able to reconnect with americans? >> they need to meet americans where they are. we are a very secular society. and so if the church can figure out a way to help people understand how a spiritual journey and a faith community can really make one's life more rich and meaningful, that i think is also part of the story. >> and nikki battiste joins us now. nikki, so many of the people we spoke with thought that pope francis has been much more inclusive. what did you learn? >> reporter: the feeling is very much the same here in the u.s. pope francis has made a concerted effort to soften the message of the catholic church. it's a church that has angerered some of more conservative followers, but it's part of a plan to make all feel welcome. norah? >> we also asked him about those

conservative bishops. you'll hear than later. nikki battiste, thank you. now to tonight's other top story. clashes between police and pro-palestinian demonstrators are intensifying. protests at columbia university in new york are now in their eighth day, and today the speaker of the house was on campus, calling on the school's president to restore order. cbs' nancy chen has more on the growing nationwide tensions. >> let him go! >> reporter: this was the scene at the university of southern california after school security tried to stop students from setting up a protest encampment. hundreds of demonstrators surrounded a patrol car after campus police detained one student who was later released. >> free, free, free palestine! >> reporter: at the university of texas austin, police in riot gear and officers on horseback confronted about 200 students participating in a pro-palestinian rally. on the east coast, demonstrators set up an encampment on harvard yard in solidarity with student protesters at columbia

university, where house speaker mike johnson spoke late today and was met with both cheers and boos. >> i'm here today joining my colleagues and calling on president shafik to resign if she cannot immediately bring order to this chaos. >> i'm just standing on the sidewalk! >> reporter: this is day eight of the protest at columbia university. the school said it is making important progress with protesters, but has given students a deadline to dismantle their tents. the protesters say they will not leave until the school agrees to cut its business ties to israel. >> we need the administrators of these universities to get control of the situation. and if they can't, then we need the national guard, law enforcement, or someone to come in here and take control. >> are you calling for the national guard to come here? >> desperate times call for desperate measures. >> reporter: for now, new york governor kathy hochul says she has no plans to send in the guard. columbia announced today because of the unrest, there will be a remote option for upcoming final exams. graduation is set to take place on campus in three weeks.

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we turn now to the supreme court in a case that could have wide ranging implications for women's health care nationwide. at issue is the conflict between idaho's near total abortion ban and a federal law that requires hospitals to provide emergency medical treatment.

cbs' jan crawford was there for the oral arguments. >> reporter: the justices were sharply divided over biden administration arguments that federal law, which requires hospitals to provide necessary stabilizing treatment, including abortions, overrides idaho's near total ban which permits abortion to save a mother's life, but not when her health is at risk. >> idaho law says the doctor has to determine not that there is merely a serious medical condition, but that the person will die. >> reporter: liberal justices provided real-life examples of women who have been denied abortions in states with restrictive laws. >> her life is not in peril, but she is going to lose her reproductive organs. she is going to lose the ability to have children in the future, unless an abortion takes place. >> reporter: but some conservative justices noted that in idaho doctors can perform some abortions if they believe the woman is in danger of dying. raul labrador is idaho's attorney general. >> they continue to say that

this is putting women's lives in jeopardy, and it is not. >> reporter: idaho officials say the biden administration is trying to find a back doorway to broaden abortion access. >> there will be more abortions happening in hospitals because they will create an exception that will allow any type of abortion to happen in the state of idaho. >> reporter: but stacey seib, a high-risk pregnancy doctor in idaho says physicians are now afraid to perform abortions even if the state law may allow it over fears they could be prosecuted. >> we need to help take care of people at this point. >> and you know, you could face criminal prosecution. >> yes, yes, and jail time. >> reporter: and in the political world today, another state with a near total ban, arizona, is now poised to repeal it after three republicans joined with democrats in the arizona house. that will go to the arizona senate where there is support for the repeal, and then to the governor, who is expected to sign it. that would mean that in arizona, abortions again would be permitted up to 15 weeks.

norah? >> that's a big development. jan crawford, thank you. president biden signed a bipartisan national security package into law today. the measure forces tiktok's china-based parent company to sell the video sharing app or be based in the u.s. that provision is expected to face legal challenges and disrupt the income of content creators. there are 170 million tiktok users in the u.s. alone. the law also provides $95 billion in long delayed aid to ukraine, israel, and taiwan. tonight, we're also taking you inside the iconic st. peter's basilica for a rare private tour. that's next.

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>> yes. and ahead of very important time, world children's day. >> for me, it is a great moment. >> yes, absolutely. father enzo forttunado is organizing the first world children's day. we visited michelangelo's pieta which shows mother mary holding jesus. far fortunato took us where no one gephardts to close, the masterpiece. this is 500 years old? it's going to make me cry. >> translator: he always says it's the women who save the world. >> oh, thank you for saying that. why is st. peter's basilica so special? >> because it's a house of the pope, but above all, it's the

inside the tomb of st. peter. >> one of the holiest treasures inside one of christianity's holiest sites. th there are new federal rules for airlines on everything from cash refunds to stopping hidden fees. what consumers need to know, next.

we have a consumer alert tonight about new rules aimed at protecting millions of americans who fly. one rule will require airlines to automatically provide refunds for things like cancelled and delayed flights, delayed baggage, returns, and failed in-flight wifi. the department of transportation will also require airlines to be more transparent about extra fees, clearly explaining all additional charges. and we'll have some final

thoughts from our exclusive interview with pope francis. that's next. finally tonight, a word about our first of its kind interview with the holy father, historic. and this is something i've dreamt about my whole career at cbs news. it took an entire team of dedicated journalists to make this happen.

today the pope told us that he hopes his legacy is to welcome everyone. and as one long-time follower told us, pope francis may not change the lyrics of the catholic church, but he is trying to change the tune. you can see much more of our interview in may on "60 minutes" and in a prime-time special. i'm norah o'donnell in rome. good night. this is cbs news flash. i'm shanelle kaul in new york. the supreme court will hear arguments today on former president donald trump's claim that he is immune from prosecution for anything that happened during his presidency. the case could decide if trump will go to trial for the criminal charges brought against him by the special counsel. an arizona grand jury grand jury wednesday indicted 18

people for trying to overturn trump's 2020 loss in the state. those indicted include mark meadows, trump's former chief of staff, and rudy giuliani. and mattel has unveiled a new barbie dollahon norring olympic gold medalist kristi yamaguchi. it will be released for asian american pacific islander heritage month in may. for more, download the cbs news app on your cell phone or connected tv. i'm shanelle kaul, cbs news, new york. your holiness, what an honor. >> tonight, our exclusive in-depth conversation with pope francis at the vatican. his message for the world as he pleads for peace ahead of the church's first world children's day. >> can you help negotiate peace? ♪ >> announcer: this is the "cbs

overnight news." >> thank you for being with us. i'm norah o'donnell overlooking the vatican, where just a few hours ago we interviewed the holy father, pope francis. the head of the catholic church shares his insight on the state of the world in his first extensive one-on-one interview with a u.s. television network. his holiness spoke to us about war, peace, famine, and climate change, all with the world's children in mind. our sit-down comes ahead of the vatican's first world children's day with a message that all kids are, quote, precious in god's eyes. we've been in rome and vatican city for a few days now speaking with people from around the world who have made the sacred pilgrimage to reconnect with their faith, pray at the sistine chapel, and have a chance to see pope francis. a reminder that people of all faiths turn to pope t pope for guidance on the world's most

difficult issues, making our conversation with his holiness that much more important. >> oh my goodness, your holiness, what an honor. so wonderful to meet you. >> wonderful to meet you. >> love to meet you. thank you so much for doing this. we met pope francis today at casa santa marta, the guest house where the pope lives instead of the lavish papal palace. at 87 years old, he may have trouble walking, but he had no difficulty sitting down with us for an hour-long conversation. how's your health? >> translator: my health is good. >> in nearly every address, the pope often calls for peace. he condemned hamas' october 7th attack, but has also called on israel to use restraint. there are now pictures of starving children coming out of gaza. what about those that call that a genocide?

>> translator: genocide. every afternoon at 7:00 p.m., i call gaza to the parish. there are about 600 people there, and they tell me what's going on. it's very hard, very, very hard. food goes in, but they have to fight for it. it's very hard. >> i know you call for peace. you have called for a ceasefire in many of your sermons. can you help negotiate peace? >> i can pray. i do. i pray a lot. >> during world children's day, which is the end of may, the u.n. says over a million people will be facing famine in gaza. many of them children. what can be done? >> translator: not only gaza, we

should think about ukraine. those kids don't know how to smile. i tell them something, but they forgot how to smile. and this is very hard when a child forgets to smile. that's really very serious, very serious. >> do you have a message for vladimir putin when it comes to ukraine? >> translator: please, countries at war, all of them, stop the war. look to negotiate. look for peace. a negotiated peace is better than a war without end. >> his most holy father is considered one of the most influential people in the world, leading nearly 1.4 billion catholics.

he is the first pope from the americas, the first jesuit, and will host the vatican's first world children's day next month. i love that you take the kids in the popemobile with you and bring them up to apostolic palace when you say a prayer. why do you do that? >> translator: children always bear a message. they bear a message, and it is way for us to have a younger heart. >> francis is also the first pontiff to make climate change a priority. in 2015, to make an important point, images of the environment were projected on the saint peter's basilica, the dome designed in the mid 16th century by michelangelo. what do you say to the deniers of climate change? >> translator: there are people who are foolish, and foolish, even if you show them research, they don't believe it.

why? because they don't understand the situation or because of their interest. but climate change exists. >> his progressive style has made him popular worldwide with millions coming here to st. peter's square to catch a glimpse of the holy father. >> it has been inspirational, just being here, going into st. peter's basilica, going into the sistine chapel, just tears coming into our eyes because we're actually -- you can feel the spirit. >> sophia and erin came with their family from san diego, california. how did it make you feel when he came out the window? >> it made me feel good, like butterflies in my stomach. >> still, the number of catholics in america is dwindling. in the u.s., only 20% of adults

identify as catholic, and that's down from 24% in 2007. i wonder if you could speak to those who don't go to mass anymore or maybe don't see a place for themselves in the catholic church. >> translator: i would say there is always a place, always. if in this parish the priest doesn't seem welcoming, i understand. but go and look. there is always a place. do not run away from the church. the church is very big. it's more than a temple. it's more. you shouldn't run away from it. >> we also asked the pope about the migrant crisis, gay rights, women's role in the church, and whether he is thinking about retirement.

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this morning, we turn to the role of dating apps. about 30% of americans say they've used a dating at some point. many believe it's the safest place to find love. jim axelrod has this cautionary tale. >> my mom was actually very specific about wanting to do online dating. >> online dating felt safer. >> uh-huh. >> reporter: it's ironic. >> i know. >> reporter: ironic because after kelly gau's mom laura found a partner on the dating site match.com, she was scammed out of $1.5 million by someone posing falsely online as frank. did she show you her profile on match.com? >> she never did. i thought she could navigate that very well and would never put herself in any position where she would get hurt. >> reporter: laura was like millions of americans who have logged on to a dating app looking for love. but according to a pugh survey,

more than half the people using dating apps believe they've been approached by a scam account. take the profile picture of frank, who laura met on match.com. we tracked the stolen photo. it's actually of a doctor who lives in chile. how it is possible that romance scammers can create these fraudulent profiles on online dating sites? >> i mean, it's quite easy. they don't want friction on these apps. > reporter: katherine's nonprofit garba partners with match.com's parent company to provide users with background checks. but after a leadership change at match, the partnership broke down. cosmida says the entire injury shortchanges safety. >> we've talked to every online dating platform out there from the largest to the smallest. they all have similar thoughts and feelings around trust and safety. >> reporter: and what are those feelings? >> that trust and safety is not

generating revenue enough for them to invest it in. >> reporter: cosmidas is one of several people who worked on security with match who told us dating apps don't ask a lot of background questions of new users. the idea she says is to keep signups easy and the numbers up for these subscription-based businesses. that's essential to boost revenue. so they don't do enough, in your view, to combat the fraudulent profiles that are being established? >> correct. >> reporter: in 2019, the federal trade commission filed a lawsuit alleging from 2013 to 2018 as many as 25 to 30% of match.com members who registered each day were using match.com to perpetrate scams. in a statement, match group told us we believe the ftc allegations have no merit. three former executives who were at match as recently as last year told us that fake accounts were a serious and persistent

problem for overmatched and underfunded trust and safety departments. the corporate offices that handle customer security. match told us it spends $125 million every year on trust and safety. >> prior to 2017, we didn't have a significant number of romance fraud complaints in the united states. >> reporter: what changed? the proliferation of dating sites. >> reporter: james barnacle is head of the financial crime section of the fbi. >> we think it's really important for the tech companies to step up and curtail the abuse of american citizens. >> reporter: after six months of asking for an interview -- >> mr. kim, how you? >> hi, how you? >> good. jim axelrod from cbs news. >> reporter: we final approached bernard kim, the ceo of match group, which operates at least a dozen dating platforms, including hinge, ok cupid, and tinder. >> look, we invest a tremendous

amount of capital and talent on trust and safety. >> reporter: we talked to several former match employees, including former high profile executives. it's funny you bring up trust and safety, because they said that it never gets adequate resources. >> i mean, if you look at our investment over the last several years, we've only increased the number of talented people, leadership that's focused in this area. it's existential to our business to remain safe. >> reporter: match told us they removed 96% of improper accounts within a day. and use both ai and human moderators to remove bad actors. we tracked down a former romance scammer in ghana and shared with him what the match ceo told us. how hard was it for you to set up a fake profile on the sites like match.com? >> for us it is easy. >> we shifted the way that we've addressed people that can come into our platforms. we're working really, really hard every single day to make

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it is earth week, and this morning we're taking a look at the expensive efforts to protect wildlife from the dangers of the nation's highways. here is connor knighton. >> reporter: interstate 90 is the longest interstate highway in the united states, spanning more than 3,000 miles, it connects seattle in the west to boston in the east. but it also serves as a massive concrete divide. for the animals who live to the north and south of the interstate, this road has absolutely wrecked their commute. is there a rush hour for the animals? >> yes. they tend to be nocturnal, or at dawn or ducks. >> reporter: patty with a wildlife biologist with the u.s. forest service. brian white works for the department of transportation. together, their two organizations have teamed up to develop a network of critter

crossings in washington. overpasses and underpasses designed to provide safe package for wildlife. te fact that you have one here and one here, is that because you've identified both of those areas as area that's an malls are likely to cross? >> yes, correct. >> reporter: the crossing project spans 15 miles of i-90 near the snoqualmie pass in washington flanked by large chunks of what's primarily national forest land, habitat for all sorts of creatures great and small. if they're protected on both sides, why does it matter if they're connected? >> because you lose genetic variability, and gradually you start getting localized extinction and populations get further and further apart and smaller. >> reporter: around the country, most animals see a busy highway and turn around. a brave few might try to cross, but they're at risk of getting run over. a wildlife crossing is supposed to make that cross far less treacherous. but there is no guarantee that if you build it. that will come. there is a wildlife corridor

sign back there. that helps, right? that's how the animals figure out? they look at that? this is the way to go. >> reporter: miles of fencing along the road funnel animals to crossing points. high concrete walls block headlights and dull the traffic noise. >> we want to mimic the habitat on either side, native plants and everything so that animals sort of don't even see the transition. >> reporter: it worked. in 2023, cameras captured animals using these crossings more than 5,000 times. including mule deer, elk, and coyotes. when this project started, was there some other example that you were looking at as a success story to model this after? >> well, banff, canada obviously comes to the top of the list. >> reporter: the section of the trans-canada highway that cuts through banff national park has been used as a model for crossings worldwide. banff's 38 undercrossings and 6 overcrossings have reduced wildlife collisions by 80%. back in the u.s., there are now around 1500 wildlife crossing

structures in 43 states. in wyoming, prong horn run across highway 191. in florida, panthers and alligators creep under i-75. they can be subtle. motorists may have no idea they're driving over a moose in montana or tunnels full of tortoises in utah. but it will be hard to miss this crossing. not far from los angeles, they're building the largest wildlife corridor in the country. >> i really wish it had been the smallest. i could have gotten years of my life back trying to help raise the money and the public support. >> reporter: beth pratt serves as regional executve director for the national wildlife federation in california. once it's completed in late 2025 or early 2026, the wildlife crossing will stretch for more than 200 feet across ten lanes of the 101 freeway, which can see up to 400,000 vehicles a day. >> i think that's a real miracle that over one of the busiest freeways in the world you're going to be driving under it and

a mountain lion, fox might be walking over or a fence lizard or a ground squirrel may have a family on top. that's a really hopeful project. and we do owe it to p-22. >> reporter: this is p-22, the celebrated mountain lion who roamed around l.a.'s griffith park. when he was younger, he somehow made it across two freeways only to end up a lonely hollywood bachelor, until his death in 2022. ♪ oh p-22, all of los angeles is going to miss you ♪ >> reporter: the crossing, which is estimated to cost $90 million will expand the dating pool. that's important for all sorts of critters, even ones who aren't as obviously charismatic. back underneath i-90, professor jason irwin and his team of central washington university students are focused on everything from toads to sala salamanders. >> it's fantastic. and it's really been fantastic to work on a project where they appreciate the little guy.

>> reporter: there are also human lives at stake. >> there are parts of the country where traffic safety means installing a new crosswalk at a busy intersection. there are other parts of the country where traffic safety means things like wildlife crossings. >> reporter: last year transportation secretary pete buttigieg announced a federal grant program awarding a total of $350 million to states looking to build crossings and improve safety. there are approximately one million collisions involving large wildlife on america's roads each year, resulting in some 200 human deaths. >> if you think about it that way and you think about how many accidents didn't happen, these crossings structures pay for themselves pretty fast. >> reporter: brian white has already seen a reduction in collisions where the crossings have been built. fewer road closures means faster commutes for everyone. >> this is showing the wildlife collision incidents that we had along the corridor. this is before we started work, before we had the fence up. this is what it looks like now.

>> reporter: even though the crossing construction in los angeles has meant occasional slowdowns and lane closures, pratt says the public has been able to stay focused on the benefits down the road. >> wildlife crossings are something it doesn't matter if you're a republican or a democrat or what political affiliation. people really support them. i think there is very few people who don't get upset when they see a dead animal on the side of the road. so i think that this is something that in a time where we

health officials are warning of a rash of measles cases popping up around the country. west virginia announced its first case of measles in a quarter century. and vermont confirms its first case since 2018. nicole sganga reports. >> reporter: the cdc is concerned that measles infections continue to rise in the united states. as of april 18th, 125 cases were reported in 17 states so far this year. the vast majority occurring in

people who are not vaccinated, or those whose vaccination status is not known. nearly half of all cases are children under 5. >> parents unfortunately are withholding their children, or delaying their children from being vaccinated against this disease. >> reporter: dr. william schaffner with vanderbilt university medical center says measles is the single most contagious virus we know. he warns there is a misconception among some parents that it causes only mild illness. >> it is an absolutely nasty infection, and i would not wish a single child to have to experience measles. >> reporter: health officials are warning of a possible exposure at the indianapolis children's museum during the solar eclipse after an infected person from out of state travelled there for the viewing. anyone exposed could show symptoms as late as april 29th based on the incubation period. symptoms are high fever, cough, runny nose, red-eyes, white

spots in the mouth, and a rash that starts on the hairline and face and spreads. >> the measles virus can get down into your chest and cause pneumonia. even more seriously, it can get into your brain and cause inflammation. >> reporter: doctors say the best way to avoid infection is to get vaccinated. nicole sganga, cbs news, washington. and that's the "overnight news" for this thursday. reporting from the nation's capital, i'm olivia gazis. this is cbs news flash. i'm shanelle kaul in new york. the supreme court will hear arguments today on former president donald trump's claim that he is immune from prosecution for anything that happened during his presidency. the case could decide if trump will go to trial for the criminal charges brought against him by the special counsel. an arizona grand jury grand jury wednesday indicted 18 people for trying to overturn

trump's 2020 loss in the state. those indicted include mark meadows, trump's former chief of staff, and rudy giuliani. and mattel has unveiled a new barbie doll honoring olympic gold medalist kristi yamaguchi. it will be released for asian american pacific islander heritage month in may. for more, download the cbs news app on your cell phone or connected tv. i'm shanelle kaul, cbs news, new york. your holiness, buongiorno, what an honor. >> tonight, our exclusive in-depth conversation with pope francis at the vatican. his message for the world as he pleads for peace ahead of the church's first world children's day. >> can you help negotiate peace? ♪

>> announcer: this is the "cbs overnight news." >> thank you for being with us. i'm norah o'donnell overlooking the vatican, where just a few hours ago we interviewed the holy father, pope francis. the head of the catholic church shares his insight on the state of the world in his first extensive one-on-one interview with a u.s. television network. his holiness spoke to us about war, peace, famine, and climate change, all with the world's children in mind. our sit-down comes ahead of the vatican's first world children's day with a message that all kids are, quote, precious in god's eyes. we've been in rome and vatican city for a few days now speaking with people from around the world who have made the sacred pilgrimage to reconnect with their faith, pray at the sistine chapel, and have a chance to see pope francis. a reminder that people of all faiths turn to pope francis for guide dance on the world's most difficult issues, making our

conversation with his holiness that much more important. >> oh my goodness, your holiness, buongiorno, what an honor. so wonderful to meet you. >> wonderful to meet you. >> love to meet you. thank you so much for doing this. we met pope francis today at casa santa marta, the guest house where the pontiff lives instead of the lavish papal palace. at 87 years old, he may have trouble walking, but he had no difficulty sitting down with us for an hour-long conversation. how's your health? >> translator: my health is good. >> in nearly every address, the pope often calls for peace. he condemned hamas' october 7th attack, but has also called on israel to use restraint. there are now pictures of starving children coming out of gaza. what about those that call that a genocide?

>> translator: genocide. every afternoon at 7:00 p.m., i call gaza to the parish. there are about 600 people there, and they tell me what's going on. it's very hard, very, very hard. food goes in, but they have to fight for it. it's very hard. >> i know you call for peace. you have called for a ceasefire in many of your sermons. can you help negotiate peace? >> i can pray. i do. i pray a lot. >> during world children's day, which is the end of may, the u.n. says over a million people will be facing famine in gaza. many of them children. what can be done? >> translator: not only gaza, we

should think about ukraine. those kids don't know how to smile. i tell them something, but they forgot how to smile. and this is very hard when a child forgets to smile. that's really very serious, very serious. >> do you have a message for vladimir putin when it comes to ukraine? >> translator: please, countries at war, all of them, stop the war. look to negotiate. look for peace. a negotiated peace is better than a war without end. >> his most holy father is considered one of the most influential people in the world, leading nearly 1.4 billion catholics.

he is the first pope from the americas, the first jesuit, and will host the vatican's first world children's day next month. i love that you take the kids in the popemobile with you and bring them up to apostolic palace when you say a prayer. why do you do that? >> translator: children always bear a message. they bear a message, and it is way for us to have a younger heart. >> francis is also the first pontiff to make climate change a priority. in 2015, to make an important point, images of the environment were projected on the saint peter's basilica, the dome designed in the mid 16th century by michelangelo. what do you say to the deniers of climate change? >> translator: there are people who are foolish, and foolish, even if you show them research, they don't believe it.

why? because they don't understand the situation or because of their interest. but climate change exists. >> his progressive style has made him popular worldwide with millions coming here to st. peter's square to catch a glimpse of the holy father. >> has been emotional. just being here, going into st. peter's basilica, going into the sistine chapel, just tears coming into our eyes because we're actually -- you can feel the spirit. >> sophia and aaron came with their family from san diego, california. how did it make you feel when he came out the window? >> it made me feel good, like butterflies in my stomach. >> still, the number of catholics in america is dwindling. in the u.s., only 20% of adults identify as catholic, and that's

down from 24% in 2007. i wonder if you could speak to those who don't go to mass anymore or maybe don't see a place for themselves in the catholic church. >> translator: i would say there is always a place, always. if in this parish the priest doesn't seem welcoming, i understand. but go and look. there is always a place. do not run away from the church. the church is very big. it's more than a temple. it's more. you shouldn't run away from it. >> we also asked the pope about the migrant crisis, gay rights, women's role in the church, and whether he is thinking about retirement.

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♪ >> announcer: this is the "cbs overnight news." >> for our interview with pope francis, we also wanted to take a pulse of the catholic church back home in the u.s., so we asked catholics in cities across the country about their relationship with the church, how they feel about this pope, and what message they want to hear from him.

>> i would describe the pope as transformative. he is one-of-a-kind papacy. >> i think he has done a great job talking about the marginalized, the poor, the care for the environment. >> we support him. he is our guide. >> reporter: like the church he leads, americans' opinions of pope francis are diverse. >> he's got some things i agree with, some things maybe i don't agree with. >> we always need popes that challenge our way of thinking. and i think he is doing that. >> reporter: while a majority of american catholics view francis favorably, many we spoke with thought the church needed to evolve. 83% of u.s. catholics want the church to allow the use of contraception. and more than half think the church should recognize gay marriage. >> i think they do need to bring women into the church. >> they need to ordain women as priests, and they need to allow priests to marry. >> everything changes, and sometimes i think the church needs to change too. >> reporter: a recent survey found more americans were leaving the catholic church at

higher rates than any other religion. >> i feel that i can be spiritual anywhere. i don't necessarily have to go to a church. and i feel like that's the old school way of thinking. >> i think there has been a lot of bad news about the catholics, religion, about the priests in general. and i think people have turned around and walked way from that. >> we have a lot of young people that grew up in the catholic church, but they don't feel that they're getting the message. >> they feel they're not accepted. they feel they might be ostracized. they feel that like they don't belong to the church. >> reporter: we spoke with patrick egan, who left the catholic church as a teenager, only to come back in search of a community. he is now a leader at a local parish. does the catholic church feel different under pope francis? >> yes. francis is really trying to open the door to participation by people who have been traditionally outside of the hierarchy. >> reporter: he blames strict adherence to ideology for the

decline, but says that can change. what do you think it would take for the catholic church to be able to reconnect with americans? >> they need to meet americans where they are. we are a very secular society. and so if the church can figure out a way to help people understand how a spiritual journey and a faith community can really make one's life more rich and meaningful, that i think is also part of the story. >> and nikki battiste joins us now. nikki, so many of the people we spoke with thought that pope francis has been much more inclusive. what did you learn? >> reporter: the feeling is very much the same here in the u.s. pope francis has made a concerted effort to soften the message of the catholic church. it's an approach that has angered some of the more conservative followers, but it's part of a plan to make all feel welcome. norah? >> we also asked him about those conservative bishops. you'll hear than later.

nikki battiste, thank you. now to tonight's other top story. clashes between police and pro-palestinian demonstrators are intensifying. protests at columbia university in new york are now in their eighth day, and today the speaker of the house was on campus, calling on the school's president to restore order. cbs' nancy chen has more on the growing nationwide tensions. >> let him go! >> reporter: this was the scene at the university of southern california after school security tried to stop students from setting up a protest encampment. hundreds of demonstrators surrounded a patrol car after campus police detained one student who was later released. >> free, free, free palestine! >> reporter: at the university of texas austin, police in riot gear and officers on horseback confronted about 200 students participating in a pro-palestinian rally. on the east coast, demonstrators set up an encampment on harvard yard in solidarity with student protesters at columbia university, where house speaker mike johnson spoke late today

and was met with both cheers and boos. >> i'm here today joining my colleagues and calling on president shafik to resign if she cannot immediately bring order to this chaos. >> i'm just standing on the sidewalk! >> reporter: this is day eight of the protest at columbia university. the school said it is making important progress with protesters, but has given students a deadline to dismantle their tents. the protesters say they will not leave until the school agrees to cut its business ties to israel. >> we need the administrators of these universities to get control of the situation. and if they can't, then we need the national guard, law enforcement, or someone to come in here and take control. >> are you calling for the national guard to come here? >> desperate times call for desperate measures. >> reporter: for now, new york governor kathy hochul says she has no plans to send in the guard. columbia announced today because of the unrest, there will be a remote option for upcoming final exams. graduation is set to take place on campus in three weeks. norah?

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the oral arguments. >> reporter: the justices were sharply divided over biden administration arguments that federal law, which requires hospitals to provide necessary stabilizing treatment, including abortions, overrides idaho's near total ban which permits abortion to save a mother's life, but not when her health is at risk. >> idaho law says the doctor has to determine not that there is merely a serious medical condition, but that the person will die. >> reporter: liberal justices provided real-life examples of women who have been denied abortions in states with restrictive laws. >> her life is not in peril, but she is going to lose her reproductive organs. she is going to lose the ability to have children in the future, unless an abortion takes place. >> reporter: but some conservative justices noted that in idaho doctors can perform some abortions if they believe the woman is in danger of dying. raul labrador is idaho's attorney general. >> they continue to say that this is putting women's lives in jeopardy, and it is not.

>> reporter: idaho officials say the biden administration is trying to find a back doorway to broaden abortion access. >> there will be more abortions happening in hospitals because they will create an exception that will allow any type of abortion to happen in the state of idaho. >> reporter: but stacy seyb, a high-risk pregnancy doctor in idaho says physicians are now afraid to perform abortions even if the state law may allow it over fears they could be prosecuted. >> we need to help take care of people at this point. >> and you know, you could face criminal prosecution. >> yes, yes, and jail time. >> reporter: and in the political world today, another state with a near total ban, arizona, is now poised to repeal it after three republicans joined with democrats in the arizona house. that will go to the arizona senate where there is support for the repeal, and then to the governor, who is expected to sign it. that would mean that in arizona, abortions again would be permitted up to 15 weeks.

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>> yes. for me is a great moment. >> yes, absolutely. father enzo fortunato tells us 100,000 will come here. he is organizing the vatican's first world children's day. we visited michelangelo's pieta which shows mother mary holding jesus. >> oh, my gosh. father fortunato took us where no one gets to go, up close to the masterpiece. this is 500 years old? it's going to make me cry. >> translator: he always says it's the women who save the world. >> oh, thank you for saying that. why is st. peter's basilica so special? >> because it's a house of the pope, but above all, it's the inside the tomb of st. peter.

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interview with pope francis. that's next. finally tonight, a word about our first of its kind interview with the holy father. historic. and this is something i've dreamt about my whole career at cbs news. it took an entire team of dedicated journalists to make this happen. today the pope told us that he

hopes his legacy is to welcome everyone. and as one long-time follower told us, pope francis may not change the lyrics of the catholic church, but he is trying to change the tune. you can see much more of our interview in may on "60 minutes" and in a prime-time special. i'm norah o'donnell in rome. good night. this is cbs news flash. i'm shanelle kaul in new york. the supreme court will hear arguments today on former president donald trump's claim that he is immune from prosecution for anything that happened during his presidency. the case could decide if trump will go to trial for the criminal charges brought against him by the special counsel. an arizona grand jury grand jury wednesday indicted 18 people for trying to overturn

trump's 2020 loss in the state. those indicted include mark meadows, trump's former chief of staff, and rudy giuliani. and mattel has unveiled a new barbie doll honoring olympic gold medalist kristi yamaguchi. it will be released for asian american pacific islander heritage month in may. for more, download the cbs news app on your cell phone or connected tv. i'm shanelle kaul, cbs news, new york. it's thursday, april 25th, 2024. this is "cbs news mornings." is a president above the law? the nation's highest court taking up that issue today in a landmark case that could decide whether or not donald trump is immune from prosecution. [ chants ] tensions flare on college campuses across the country as o