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>> stephen: hey, louis. spider sense. thank you. [cheers and applause] nice to see you. happy thursday. happy thursday. happy, happy, happy thursday. that's right, hey, everybody! thank you very much. thank you, thomas. thank you. boom! thank you very much. down here. that's pleasant. thank you, thank you very much. welcome. welcome, one and all in here, out there, all around the world to the "the late show." i'm your host, stephen colbert.

it can be hard to believe but i'm getting a little older. i'm 58. pretty good shape. pretty good shape. thank you very much. i think you're sexy too. but blood pressure's a little high. so my doctor's got me a strict regimen to lower my stress level. 8 hours of sleep, stay hydrated, and do not be president of the united states. evidently bit of a stressful job. that's why it's so important that the commander in chief stay healthy. so today joe biden had his annual physical. it was a clean bill of health, although his x-ray did reveal several classified documents. gotta look everywhere. you gotta look everywhere. next, colonoscopy. the presidential physical is pretty thorough. they do a colonoscopy, blood tests, and as part of the dental exam, biden pulls air force one with his teeth. physicians said they'd be checking out biden's eyes, hearing, and "anything else he may complain about." anything else he might complain

about? the man is 80. i hope you packed a lunch. "okay, mr. president. just to recap: your left knee tingles before it rains, how come the clock on my phone doesn't tick, they don't put real butter on the popcorn at the movies anymore, and the diner's charging twice what they used to for a nice plate of scrod." got it. now, here's the thing: we don't have the full results yet, but we do know that the president tested positive for "old af." because biden is the oldest president ever, setting a new record every morning. yes. every day he wakes up, a new record. that's impressive. there's a guy from the guinness book with a plaque that says "still alive." biden's age is just a number but it is important, because he's

expected to announce a re-election bid soon. so his advisers have a plan to keep him looking spry. reportedly, they want to focus on events that play up the president's vitality. which is why biden will be the keynote speaker at this year's shamble-palooza! sponsored by velcro shoes. to ease his load, biden will likely be getting some help on the campaign trail. one adviser says "if he runs in 2024, there will be a range of surrogates that show the diversity of the party, all across the ages, from maxwell frost to bernie sanders." yes, bernie sanders. because nothing says, "i'm not old," like trotting out a guy one year older. "ladies and gentlemen. ladies and gentlemen. no, listen! i'm telling you, i am here to urge you to vote for that limber young whippersnapper, joe biden! turn down the be-bop, joe.

stop doing the charleston, joe! there, i did your little speech. now, where's my soup?" but it might be hard to get voters to ignore the ravages of time. because according to cnn, voters bring up biden's age constantly in focus groups, using words like "brain dead," and "mush." come on. what are you doing? never say "mush" around an 80-year-old man! he'll just get hungry, and dinner's not till 3:00! but biden doesn't want anyone -- i'm just thinking about how much joe biden loves these jokes. that's what i'm thinking right now. but biden doesn't want anyone thinking he's too old for the job, which is why aides say his reaction to seeing news mentions of his age is to do a little jog in or out of his next public event, and that overall, "he doesn't want to be a grandpa. he wants to be a bro."

"okay, here we go. come on, let's go. here we go. here we go. okay. hey! hey. 'sup? 'sup, fam! i'm broseph biden! cap's on backwards, ya peep my vibe? let's buckle on our leather helmets, toss around the medicine ball, and go for a little jog! here we go. okay, come on. let's go. aw, heck, that pigeon's passing me. come here, ya rough necked ruffian!" now... speaking of health, ever since sam alito and the bench bunch overturned roe v. wade, republicans all across the country have been looking for ways to track and restrict abortion. it being private, that's not an easy task. but one thing they've been targeting is apps that help track menstrual cycles.

recently the virginia state senate passed a bipartisan bill to be able to access these apps which seems reasonable which is why it's being opposed by the governor. yesterday, youngkin blocked the bill that would ban police from seeking menstrual histories. that's a clear invasion of privacy. the only person who should know when someone is menstruating is that person and the woman she makes discreet eye contact with before exchanging a tampon, then going on to win the lacrosse game! i only know what i see in commercials. staffers for the governor claim he killed the bill because it threatened the ability of law enforcement to investigate crime. yes, oh, yes, there is a lot of menstrual crime in this country. you can see it all on the new hit cbs drama, "ncpms."

who was in that? gary cole? gary cole was in that? good to see him getting work. this february 24th will mark one year since vladimir putin thought he could take ukraine in three days. and a year later, he's losing just as hard as ever. in fact, a new estimate says that since the war started, russia has likely lost more than half its tanks. i assume that means destroyed, because it's gotta be hard to lose a tank. "dammit, vasily! was it level f or level g?" it's not just military supplies that are dwindling, because we learned yesterday that due to economic sanctions from the west, russia's viagra supply has been cut off. so even the tanks they still do have look like this. wow. they did a slide.

the tanks have a slide. russia's got a plan, though. the kremlin is now scrambling to commission generic erection pills. in fact, the government says they already have one in development. warning... is potato. of course, there's plenty of crises right here at home. on february 3rd, there was a horrific train derailment in east palestine, ohio, that is potentially one of the worst environmental disasters in the nation's history. when this norfolk southern freight train derailed, it spilled 1.1 million pounds of something called vinyl chloride, an incredibly toxic carcinogen, which is also highly explosive. so, as a safety measure, norfolk southern did what they call a "controlled burn." and this is what they call "control." even worse, there were other dangerous chemicals in the spill, but norfolk southern didn't release the full list until over a week later,

on sunday, february 12. they released the list on the super bowl! they were clearly trying to bury it. the only list of dangerous chemicals you want to read during the super bowl is on the side of your doritos bag. that's what makes the ranch so cool! five days after the derailment, people were told it was safe to go home, despite residents complaining of trouble breathing, noxious smells, nausea, and headaches. ohio officials are trying to get folks to come back home, reassuring residents the air is safe to breathe. "yes, pay no attention to your lying lungs. the tingling means the air is working." in response to this devastation, the folks over at norfolk southern offered $25,000. to the town. that's the whole town. east palestine, ohio, has about 5,000 residents. that's 5 bucks per person. "tell you what, sorry for

turning your town into a lifeless hellscape. you know what might help? a footlong at subway." there you go. sensing that maybe not enough, norfolk southern is now offering residents $1,000 inconvenience checks. really? you call this an "inconvenience"? that's like giving survivors of the titanic a reimbursement for dampness. norfolk southern, i think i speak for everyone when i say, "norfolk you." we've got a great show for you tonight. my guests are the reverend al sharpton and actress jessica williams. but when we come back, congressman george santos will be here answering my very tough questions. stick around. ♪ ♪ >> announcer: "the late show with stephen colbert," sponsored by

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go get 'em. folks, if you watch the show, or my last show or followed my career, you know that i am a roman catholic. and lent is right around the corner. and as a catholic, you're supposed to give up something that's kind of a daily treat, which means this year i may have to give up talking about new york representative george santos. [applause] because it feels like every day we learn a new outrageous lie. from the congressman. he falsely claimed to have jewish ancestry, said he was a star volleyball player at the college he never attended, claimed he had a role on "hannah montana," and was a producer on the disastrous spider-man musical. and now there are also new legal concerns like the fact that his campaign has $365,000 in unexplained expenses, and that he was once charged with

stealing puppies from amish dog breeders. now, listen. i know that sounds really bad but it's important to remember, it is. you may be asking, steve, is george santos sorry about any of this? well, the answer may confuse you. >> are you sorry? >> i've said i was sorry many times. i've behaved as if i'm sorry. when you ask, "oh, you have not shown remorse" o "you don't seem to look sorry." i don't know what looking sorry looks like. >> stephen: evidently, "looking sorry" is not one of the classes they teach at imaginary volleyball university. well, given... [applause] given his growing mountain of lies, ongoing investigations, and flagging republican support, who knows how long he can stay in office?

here to tell us how long he can stay in office: new york congressman george santos. congressman. congressman santos, thanks for joining us again. >> it's great to be back on your show, hannah montana! >> stephen: i'm not -- okay. congressman, i'm surprised you agreed to be here since you tweeted out how upset you were with people impersonating you on late night shows. >> of course i'm upset! do you know how hard it is o turn on the tv and see an actor playing george santos who is not only more believable than you are, but also way more attractive? >> stephen: that must be hard. now, sir, since we last talked, you were essentially forced to step down from all your committee assignments. what have you been doing with your time? >> oh, so much. i gave the state of the union address, shot down those spy balloons, performed the super bowl halftime show, where i

revealed that i'm pregnant! >> stephen: mazel tov? >> what's that? i don't speak jewish. >> stephen: well, to that point, you've admitted to fabricating some of your backstory. but you never seem to show enough remorse about it. >> oh, come on, stephen. what does sorry even look like? is it this? or this? or maybe this? lll-l-l-l-l-la. >> stephen: it's not those. congressman, i want to ask you a question about your personal life. >> which one? >> stephen: exactly. yesterday the house was asked to investigate your seven-year marriage to a brazilian woman under the suspicion that it was just a sham for her to get her a green card. >> well, as we say in volleyball: that's a yellow card! >> stephen: really?

you say it like mario? you say that? congressman, listen. i understand your confusion. because you now claim to be married to a man -- but the thing is, you've never been seen with that man, and you don't wear a wedding ring. so what exactly is your marital status? >> oh, stephen! stephen, stephen. how dare you ask me that on my wedding day? >> stephen: who are you marrying now? >> i don't know. i just wanted to register so i can get this air fryer. these things are bulky. see? they're bulky to steal. >> stephen: congressman, at this point, even some republicans are backing away from you. aren't you worried about facing some sort of house ethics investigation? >> bring on the ethics investigation. they won't find anything. >> stephen: really? no wrongdoing? >> no. no "ethics."

>> stephen: okay. well, i believe that. there you go. i believe that. especially considering the criminal charge that you stole puppies from an amish dog breeder. >> oh, more lies from the amish media! i never stole any puppies. >> stephen: but there is clear evidence. there are multiple checks with your name on them to the amish dog breeder. how can you claim to be innocent? >> oh, i have two little eyewitnesses right here! that's right. whose gonna testify for me? stolen puppy number one? or stolen puppy number two? >> stephen: those are very adorable. >> you want 'em? you can have them for $365,000. i'll even throw in an air fryer! >> stephen: i don't need an air fryer. >> no. i mean, give me the money or

i'll throw them in the air fryer. >> stephen: okay, i'm sorry i ever asked you on. and i don't see how you could possibly bounce back from all of this controversy. >> easy, stephen. with a big musical number from my broadway show, "spiderman: turn off the dark." hit it! >> stephen: don't hit it, louis. >> still hit it, louis! [singing to the tune of "oklahoma"] oooooooooooo-spider man where the lights go turning off the dark!" >> stephen: representative santos, everyone! we'll be right back with the reverend al sharpton. ♪ music playing ♪ ♪♪ ♪ two m miles an hohour so eveverybody seeees you ♪ ♪ t two miles a an hour soso everybodydy sees yoyou♪ ♪ siri vo: f for 102 mililes, cocontinue strtraight. ♪ letet's ride ♪ ♪ two mililes an hourur so everyrybody sees s you ♪ ♪ twowo miles an n hour so e everybody s sees you u♪

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it's been a long time. you are talking in that quote, that quote about momentary victories and ongoing battles. the difference between the two. you just came back from florida, from an event down there protesting the attempts to ban black history from classrooms in florida. do you have a message for desantis and others who are trying to control that curriculum? >> reverend sharpton: i think that if we are to have the country or to become the nation that it proposes to be, we need to know everybody's history and we need to celebrate everybody's history and not censor it. what the government is trying to do, governor desantis, he is trying to use a cultural war to run for president, us against them. i'm going to do this to the lgbtq community. i'm going to do this with women's rights. i'm going to fly migrants out of florida to martha's vineyard. i'm going to decide what makes

whites uncomfortable and black history rather than saying the more we learn about the truth about all of us, it brings us all together. it is supposed to be the united states. he thinks because his mentor and political daddy, donald trump, used race to go into politics. don't forget donald trump started with birtherrism. obama was not one of us. he is trying to use the race wedge so baby trump, that you call desantis, is trying to use black history month to run for president. some of us are saying that our history is too important to us to let that happen. [applause] >> stephen: are you surprised? again, talking about momentary victories and ongoing battles, are you surprised that in this case, critical race theory, or

crt, as it's abbreviated, is just being used as sort of a catch-all for anything that people don't like on the farthest right reaches of the republican party? everything gets dumped in there, it's used as a byword for divisiveness. are you surprised that it's being used as quite such a cudgel? >> reverend sharpton: i'm not as surprised as i am trying to make sure we dramatize that's what's happening. that's why we did that march yesterday, the rallies, i think the surprise i think they have is that many people of different communities are now beginning to come together. i remember when george floyd happened and i went to do the funeral and work with the family on some of the rallies and marches. i went to some rallies, there were more whites than blacks, saying that this is wrong. i remember there was a white 17-year-old young man in a place called beebe, arkansas, killed

by police, his family called me and attorney ben crump to come in. the lawyer for the family. i preached at his funeral, they don't put that on right wing news. i won't call their name because i don't advertise on your platform my adversaries. >> stephen: no free rides. >> reverend sharpton: no free rides. you and i are going to have to talk about me coming out after congressman santos. but that's another time. i think people are coming together more than they would have ever felt, which is why joe biden beat trump. not because of a democrat. people don't want the division. people around america don't agree with me on everything that they agree we all need to talk and deal with these issues. i think that they overplayed their hands in terms of this divisiveness. trump was president for four years. and it was always playing this polarization.

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>> stephen: hey, everybody. it's the reverend al sharpton. subject of the new documentary "loudmouth." you mentioned speaking at george floyd's funeral. you also spoke at tyre nichols,

alton sterling, eric garner, daunte wright, and those of us who are not intimately involved, don't know the families, who are not there can look at this and feel inured to the horror of it after awhile. how do you stay connected to any kind of hopeful message that you can bring to those who are in pain? some sort of way to, in a fresh way, to soothe the battered souls of those who suffer because of this kind of brutality? how do you keep that eulogy honest? >> reverend sharpton: you know, it is hard. because you say to ourself, here we go again. and you say to yourself, what can i say? the answer becomes, that you need to go and encourage them to give meaning. you can't give the life back of their loved one but you can say,

we need to fight to make sure this does not continue to happen. these families didn't ask to become public figures. i chose what i do. i love what i do and i feel i was called to do it. they didn't. so i tell my daughters all the time, i ask god in my prayer, i am very much -- don't look at me like that. you should be praying too. >> stephen: every day. >> reverend sharpton: all right. all day every day. i say why does this keep happening? one day a minister said to me god answered your prayer. he said what's that? he sent god asked, i should be asking you why does it keep happening? when are you going to stop it? god is not going to come down and stop us from doing these things. we have to do it. that's what gives me the strength to go to these funerals and say we need to look at this and fight to stop this and these families have helped us to do that. so george floyd happened. people marched all over the

world. we couldn't get the george floyd federal act through, justice and policing act, through the senate. got it through the house of representatives. but president biden signed an executive order, which is what lincoln did with the emancipation proclamation. there is some incremental steps. being that i grew up being trained by people in the civil rights movement, it took from the bus boycott of rosa parks and martin luther king in '55 to '64 to get the civil rights act. this is not something is going to happen overnight. look at how long gays had to fight to get respected for lgbtq rights. so if you're looking for a quick dash and a hashtag, you shouldn't be in the movement. you should be in it for the long run. [applause] >> stephen: let's get into this documentary about you.

called "loudmouth." do you like that title? >> reverend sharpton: i'll be honest. the president of motown records came to me and said there's a young white director named josh alexander who i have talked to. i believe he is sincere. wants to do a documentary on you. he said john legend, the entertainer, said he would be the executive producer. they want to study how media has treated you from when you started in your teen years in the '80s to all the way to now that you're in a different kind of place in the american psyche. he said three things i want to tell you before you agree. i said "okay, what is that?" he said "one, you have no editorial control, no right to put in or take out anything." two, the director, young white guy from san francisco, josh alexander, he's going to direct it. you can't choose a different director. three, we're going to call it "loudmouth." i said i can live with the first two.

let me think about the other. i called him the next day and i said you know what, many of the civil rights guys before me, martin luther king and others, came from the south where you could do a rally, pass out flyers. i was born and raised in brooklyn, new york. we had to compete with broadway lights, times square, broadway plays. something happening all the time. you had to be loud in new york. you had to do outrageous stuff to get attention. then once you got the attention, then you could focus on the issue. you had to know how to deal with it in a way that you could lead the change so yeah, call it "loudmouth" so people can understand why i was loud. people would talk about, i remember him in track suits and loud. that's how we were able to get a lot of the issues down and i wore tracksuit because a lot of times we would march. we would end up getting arrested. i wasn't going to wear my good suit to jail. [applause]

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>> stephen: that's the one. the light's on. welcome back, everybody. you know my next guest from "2 dope queens," the "fantastic beasts" series, and "love life." she now stars in the apple tv+ series, "shrinking." please welcome back to "the late show," jessica williams. ♪ ♪ so lovely to see you. oh, my god, you look fantastic. >> jessica: thank you so much. i love coming out to a little sugar ray. >> stephen: i feel underdressed. you look so lovely. >> jessica: i appreciate that. thank you so much. thank you. it did take a lot of time to get in the dress. >> stephen: you had to be lowered into it? >> jessica: i had to make sure i

was moisturized so my mom didn't get mad at me from home. >> stephen: so you are dewy af. >> jessica: yes. dewy af, as they say. nice to see you, fellow former correspondent. >> stephen: do you miss that? >> jessica: no, it's hard. >> stephen: thinking about the news all the time. >> jessica: especially when i was there we were watching the news 24/7. i started that show and i was 22. it was felt like i was in grad school. >> stephen: that's what i didn't realize when i first met you over there. such a self-possessed and mature performer, i didn't know you are that young. >> jessica: yeah. i don't think "the daily show" really knew i was that young. >> stephen: youngest performer ever hired over there. >> jessica: that's right, yeah. >> stephen: okay. but that is the past. that is the past. you are now playing gabby, a therapist on the apple tv+ show "shrinking," fantastic cast.

great creators and great cast. jason segel, harrison ford. that sounds like it would be a fun group of people to hang with. is it? >> jessica: yeah, it was a blast. i signed on because the show was created by bill lawrence and i was a big fan of "scrubs." it was sort of a no-brainer and i was a fan of jason's in the day after i said it was -- i said i was doing it, harrison ford. >> stephen: you made the difference. you joined and harrison goes, i'm in. >> jessica: from that raunchy podcast. jessica williams. >> stephen: that was a spooky harrison ford. >> jessica: i haven't done it in a while. >> stephen: there is a fair amount of improvisation. they want you to experiment. did you have fun improvising with harrison ford and jason segel? >> jessica: i had a blast. i play gabby, one of the three people at this private practice. she definitely balances out the

two gentlemen. she is sort of the bright light that adds a little bit more spirit. to be able to improvise in those parameters, especially with those two, i felt very free. and then for me, i just took me a while to get used to harrison ford's face in general. >> stephen: because he is harrison ford. >> jessica: yeah, totally. i realized i have known about him since i was born basically. my mom was like, your name is jessica. you know who harrison ford is? >> stephen: you are an american. of course you know who harrison ford is. >> jessica: it did take me a minute to be like "oh, wow. that's him. that's harrison ford." >> stephen: we have a scene. this is you and a car, anything i need to know before we dropped the needle? >> jessica: they asked me what songs i would like to sing with harrison ford and this is one of them. >> yeah, i'm excxcited to see y. comeme by thehe office anand thn we'll gogo over to t the apartm. all riright, see you thehen.

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my list was "one-week" by the bare naked ladies. i know, that song. "fat lip." "ocean avenue" by yellow card and "drive me crazy" by britney spears and then i think "butterfly" but i think crazy town? so i had a few. >> stephen: who picked this? >> jessica: that was the one he agreed to do, harrison. >> stephen: did he already know it? >> jessica: no. i think he liked it enough and i think everybody was surprised that he knew every word when he showed up to set. he's a really hard worker. he's harrison ford. >> stephen: you play a therapist. are you a fan of therapy? >> jessica: yeah, i love therapy. i've had the same therapist for maybe eight, nine years, here in new york. i moved out here to do "the daily show" and i've had her ever since and i figure my brain is always going and i try to treat it like a car. i want to do the maintenance while we go as opposed if the car breaks down when i try to fix it. it's a lot more expensive.

so i just try. [applause] thank you. also that was when the reasons why i wanted to do "shrinking" because i wanted, with gabby, i wanted her to be the kind of therapist people wanted to seek out and find. i think she's really colorful, very expressive. >> stephen: is she based at all on your therapist? >> jessica: no, not at all. i don't know that much about my therapist. i wish i did. i'm always trying to deduce what her life is secretly. sometimes she will let it slip every now and then. she will be like yeah, i used to be in a girl band way back when. i'm like, what? you used to be a drummer? one time here a few years ago i ran into her at an olive oil shop and i completely like, disassociated from my body. she freaked out too. it was a nightmare. >> stephen: that is worse than seeing your teacher at the grocery store. >> jessica: 100%. she knows my traumas, my fears, my triumphs. everything.

we are both there with a little bit of olive oil. going, "uh-oh." >> stephen: do you think that you would be a good therapist? >> jessica: i think i would be a great therapist. i love to be -- >> stephen: what do you think that says about you? >> jessica: that i am power-hungry a little bit. >> stephen: a good therapist trait? power-hungry therapy? >> jessica: i love to mettle. i like micromanaging and getting people to kiss and whoo-hoo together in my game. >> stephen: i would tell my patients about that. before i brought them in. i'm gonna micromanage you. >> jessica: i like being in everybody's business. people are fascinating. >> stephen: jessica, lovely to see you. >> jessica: thank you. >> stephen: "shrinking" is currently streaming on apple tv+. it's jessica williams, everybody. we'll be right back.

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