genesys, we're behind every customer smile. captioning made possible by johnson & johnson, committed to improving health for everyone, everywhere. [tet >> pauley: good morning. and happy easter. i'm jane pauley. and this is "sunday morning." it's a question of justice for all, some 3,000 people have been exonerated of wrongful convictions since 1989, the year a national registry began keeping count. it's estimated hundreds,

maybe thousands, more innocent people remain behind bars, victims of mistaken eye witnesses, inaccurate forensic science, and racial bias, among other reasons. erin moriarty examines new efforts to right these wrongs. >> this is a picture of me. >> reporter: in 1987, a faulty medical opinion sent joyce watkins and her boyfriend to prison for life. joyce never gave up hope that their names would one day be cleared. >> i just hadn me. it was instilled in me to never give up. >> reporter: coming up on "sunday morning," a story of redemption, how an unlikely partnership is giving back lives to the wrongfully convicted. >> pauley: billy crystal is back on broadway. he'll explain to our tracy smith just how he has grown into his latest role. ♪♪ ♪ oscar, oscar ♪

>> reporter: you might have heard billy crystal sing on stage before, but not like he does in this... ♪ but i never thought i'd get there until now ♪ >> there is an electric feeling. when i sing that young duet when i'm 28, i feel like i'm 28. >> reporter: now, when you get off stage, do you still feel 28? >> no. i feel like 97. >> pauley: on this easter sunday morning, bells are ringing for our seth doane. [bell ringing] >> reporter: the sounds coming from this part of the italian countrysid have not changed much in a thousand years. >> to remove it, you have to smash the mold, outside and inside. so you cannot duplicate it. >> reporter: every bell here is one-of-a-kind? >> absolutely. >> reporter: we'll ring in easter ahead on "sunday

morning." [bell ringing] >> pauley: ben tracy tells us about a new legal push to make the fossil fuel industry the next big tobacco. dr. jon lapook talks with author delia ephron about her real-life love story. david martin asks if u.s. military aid for ukraine is enough to make a difference. ed o'keefe visits a soaring, sacred space welcoming visitors for a rare look inside. david pogue meets a man who stumbled among treasure in the trash. plus steve hartman's commentary for the holiday and more. it is april 17th, 2022. and we'll be right back. ♪♪ [trumpet] ♪♪

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boyfriend, charlie dunn, were wrongfully convicted of a terrible crime: the murder of joyce's 4-year-old great niece, brandi. >> it scared us. it took us from our families, him from his kids, took us from everything we worked for. >> reporter: charlie dunn died in prison, but last december, in a national tennessee courtroom, 74-year-old joyce watkins finally heard the words she had prayed for from the davidson county district attorney general glenn funk. >> i want to say both to the watkins' family and charlie dunn, i believe they are innocent. >> i've been trying to get this done for a long time. >> reporter: how long? >> it took about 30 years. >> reporter: exonerations are rare, and hano ane might neved

ao lly on oppit those o end the just to seek convictions. our job is to seek to do justice. >> reporter: district attorney general glenn funk says he is part of a growing number of prosecutors who believe they have to do more to uncover wrongful convictions and to prevent future ones. >> the goals have to be not only righting any past wrong, then it is also how did we get it wrong? because we can't make that same mistake again going forward. >> reporter: in 2015, funk set up a conviction review unit and to show how serious he was, in 2020, funk hired a life-long defense attorney to run it, sunny eaton. >> i think it would be fair to say that glenn and i probably have more heated debates than he would have with anyone else in the office, but i

wouldn't be doing my job if that wasn't the case. >> reporter: but there was little debate bow the case of joyce watkins brought to them. >> you need to spend all of two minutes with joyce to realize there is no way this woman committed the crime she was convicted of doing. it is not consistent with anything we know about charlie or his family, either. >> reporter: it began on june 26, 1987, when a relative asked her to get her great niece, brandi, who had been staying with a family member in connecticut for two months. almost immediately she said she knew something was wrong with the child and called brandi's mother. >> i said, i'm fixin' to take her to the hospital. she said, joyce, we're on the way. >> reporter: but when her mother hadn't arrived,

joyce took her niece to the emergency room. the 4-year-old was suffering from head and vachvaginal injuries. she died a day later. joyce, did you ever occur to you that you would be accused of her death? >> no. >> reporter: but that questioned you? >> yes. they asked me what happened to her, but i told them i didn't know. i couldn't tell them what i didn't know because i didn't know. >> reporter: the medical examiner had mistakenly concluded that the child's injuries occurred when she was at joyce's house. >> once that opinion came out, everybody got laser focused on joyce and charley. but they kept meeting with a lawyer saying come to the house, take whatever evidence you want, but it just didn't matter. >> reporter: when you heard at the hearing last

december just how wrong her medical evidence was, how did you feel about that? >> broken. broken. real heartbroken. >> reporter: joyce watkins believed the appellate courts would make it right, but the truth is without compelling new evidence, it is difficult to get an appeal, let alone win one. their appeals were all denied. >> my daddy was doing time, hard time, for something he didn't do. >> reporter: nathaniel dunn is charlie's oldest son. did you visit him while he was in prison? >> yes, ma'am. it hurt when i would see him, and it hurt when i left because he couldn't come home. >> reporter: charlie died of cancer in 2015. later that year, joyce watkins was granted parole

and released after 27 years in prison. what was your mission at that point? >> to prove our innocence. >> reporter: joyce, determined to clear charlie's name as well, was unable to do it on her own and turned to the innocence program. >> it is a really tough road to prove your innocent. >> reporter: jessica van dyke is the director. >> if you're on your own trying to do this, and trying to get medical experts to help you, and trying to get back in court and litigate an appellate process, doing that on your own is almost impossible. >> reporter: and it takes time, time that joyce didn't have. so her defense attorneys did something that was once unimaginable: they went to the district districtattorney's office that once put the couple behind bars and asked for a new look at the case. >> there is nothing controversial, nothing political, nothing adversarial about it.

if there is evidence these people are innocent and went to prison for something they didn't do, there doesn't need to be a fight about. we all need to be running to the courthouse to fix it as fast as we could. >> reporter: last weekend sunny eaton filed her report. the conclusion: they were wrongfully concluded. >> they were the only two people who sought help for this child. >> reporter: less than two months later, in front of a courtroom filled with joyce and charlie's family and friends, it was official. >> ms. watkins, this charge against you is dismissed. and to the family of charlie dunn, the charge against charlie dunn is dismissed. >> it was a happy day. it was a happy day. >> reporter: there are now conviction review units in 28 states, but the process does not always run smoothly. some state officials

fearing that reopening cases will clog courts oppose any efforts to make it easier. take what happened in st. louis, missouri. more than three years ago, the city's top prosecutor, kim gardner, found overwhelming evidence that lamar johnson, in prison for 27 years, was innocent of murder, but the missouri attorney general continues to defend his conviction. johnson remains in a maximum security missouri prison. >> what i'm struggling with...is trying to understand why i have not been heard. >> i do think it is offensive that some other court or attorney general would try to intervene and keep someone in prison who the district attorney had properly investigated and determined to be innocent. >> reporter: what about all of the d.a.s and

states attorneys who say we have to protect the integrity of convictions? >> not if we have it wrong. >> reporter: getting it wrong in the case of charlie dunn and joyce watkins caused them to lose everything. joyce will still need a ppardon from the governor to get any compensation, and so far there has been no justice for 4-year-old brandi. whoever killed her is still free. >> you never got to grieve, either, you never had the time to grieve the loss of brandi? >> no, i haven't. i'm going to go and visit her grave. good thing adding lysol laundry sanitizer kills 99.9% of bacteria that detergents can't. clean is good, sanitized is better. ♪♪

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>> pauley: church bells are ringing the world over this morning, especially in the italian town of agnone. seth doane has sent us a postcard. [bell ringing] >> reporter: easter sundays have been ringing in this way for centuries. [bell ringing] >> reporter: her of agnone, bells chime from 14 churches. this is molise, one of the lesser known regions of italy. but this otherwise obscure location is at the heart of a thousand-year-old tradition. it is home to the business

pasquale marinelli was born into, one of the oldest bell founderies on earth. it is not just work or heritage for pasquale, it's a love affair.[speaking fon language] >> reporter: i have a wife, but here i have a harem, he joked, adding, you have to love bells; they're cared for, car caressed and touched. bricks make up the base, and then layers of organic cement form the bell's shape, which is ultimately cast in bronze. these wax details will become a sort of stamp, personalizing the bell, but each one is already unique. the molds have to be cracked apart and destroyed as part of the process of removing the bronze. how do you feel when the bells in town ring?

i try to understand, he chuckled. are they mine?[speaking foreign language] >> reporter: yes, yes, i wonder if some of my ancestors made that bell, he told us, and i get excited because i know everything that goes into it. [bell ringing] >> reporter: we asked him to take us up one of those towers to hear this bell made by his great grandfather. pasquale couldn't help but chime in, playing another one made by his father and uncle.[speaking foreign language] >> reporter: everything is handed down, pasquale's older brother told us. for how many generations?[speakn language] >> reporter: i'm 26, he said. my son is 27. over the years, they've developed some prominent clients, including popes. each bell is blessed by a priest.[speaking foreign language] >> reporter: easter is tied to bells because the

sound of bells is a sound of joy, a sound of resurrection, armando said. >> basically the bells communicated events. >> reporter: important moments have been marked with bells for centuries, the guide explains. >> first holy communion. someone got married, someone died. the died is a very low tone and has big intervals. bong, bong. [bell ringing] >> reporter: and, of course, they tell time. >> the first ringtone will give the hour. the second ringtone will give you the quarter past. so 2:15 would be bong, bong, ding. 11:45 sucks. [laughter] >> reporter: he has brought tour groups to this found dery and museum

for 15 years. he is sure to note the damaged ones. >> this cannot be fixed. >> reporter: once a bell is cracked, it can never ring properly again, but has to be melted down and refashioned. >> this bell was hit by lightning. >> reporter: they showed us the most dynamic step, in which they heat up the bronze, a mixture of copper and tin, and then ppour it into bell-shaped molds. there was excitement in the air.[speaking foreign language] >> reporter: now we hope to hear these bells ring at easter, the joy, the hallelujah 6789. hallelujah. >> the joy, the hallelujah. >> reporter: and finally the most emotional moment, what they call the "rotura," or breaking. for as many years that they've done this, the work itself, it seems, never gets old.[speaking foreign

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>> pauley: the biden administration promised some $800 million in additional aid and weaponry to ukraine this past week, but will it get there in tl it david martin takes a closer look. >> reporter: from javelin antitank missiles to body armor, the u.s. military has shipped some 10 million pounds of weapons and equipment bound for ukraine, but is it enough? >> it still does not feel like we are all in to win. >> reporter: retired general ben hodges, a former commander of the u.s. army in europe says u.s. support for ukraine is just too cautious. >> we have exaggerated the potential for a so-called wrld war iii to the point that we're making policy decisions based on exaggerated fear. >> reporter: fear of

provoking a man who has thousands of nuclear weapons at his command and is willing to deliberately bomb civilians in an attempt to achieve something he might call victory. >> the whole reason they transition to this medieval approach of smashing cities, because at some point someone will say, for the love of god, please stop killing these civilians, let's get to a settlement. >> reporter: last week, russia again warned the u.s. weapon shipments could bring unpredictable consequences, but that didn't stop the biden administration from ratcheting up its support for ukraine with 18 howitzers and 40,000 artillery ships. >> it is a standard artillery piece. >> reporter: richard hooker served with the 82nd airborne. how long will 40,000 rounds last? >> i would say weeks, not months. >> reporter: the howitzers also includes

200 armored personnel carriers. >> it would be helpful, but i wouldn't characterize it as a game-changer. >> i used to think given these atrocity and the depth of the actions of russia that the west would become involved, but clearly the west has made a decision that they're not going to go in there with direct force. >> reporter: retired general phillip breedlove is the former commander of u.s. and nato forces in europe. the biden administration says it has spent more than $2.5 eillion on equipment for the ukrainian military. isn't that enough? >> i don't think that the amount of money, nor the amount of tons of equipment that we provided is the measure of merit. the real measure of merit is: when are these weapons in the hands of the ukrainian military so they can destroy russian equipment, so they can kill russian soldiers, because that is what will

end this war. >> reporter: breedlove says western aid has failed to save the city of mariupol from russia's seize tactics. >> forces in mariupol are surrendering because they didn't have enough food and bullets, very basic things. we need to make sure that those things are delivered to the front where the fighting is going on. have done it in the past,o tha a haven't we? remember the berlin air lift? >> that was in 1948, when josefstalin threw up a barricade. >> i don't think that should be off consideration for here. >> reporter: if u.s. spy flights fly into ukrainian ar space, aren't they liable to be attacked by russian aircraft? >> surely they are. we took the same risks in the berlin air lift,

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handle the loss of her sister, and then the death of her husband, when she got mail. she talks about love, loss, and more by dr. jon lapook. >> good girl. come on. >> reporter: author delia ephron knows a thing or two about romantic story lines, and lately she has been living one. if you were to summarize what happened to you over the last few years and pitch it to a movie studio, what do you think the response would be? >> i think they would buy it. >> reporter: and she would know. >> do you think we should meet? >> reporter: she and her sister nora co-wrote the 1998 classic rom com, "you've got mail." >> oh, my gosh. >> suddenly love lands on me. it is so amazing to fall in love. and how lucky that i got

to. >> reporter: but before luck came grief. delia lost nora in 2012 and her husband jerome kass just three years later, both to forms of cancer. >> every time i came home, he wasn't there to shmooze about everything in the world, and yet he was everywhere, wasn't he? >> reporter: delia coped with her grief by writing about it in a 2016 "new york times" editorial about disconnecting her late husband's land line. >> i absolutely hate verizon. i spent four ho four hours with them on a recent morning and i was disconnected three times. >> reporter: she got an e-mail from dr. peter rutter, who reminded them they had gone on a date 50 years ago. >> he said nora had set us up. i just couldn't believe it. it is like she was reaching down to me. >> reporter: what was it

about the verizon article that made you reach out to delia? >> she was single. >> reporter: but you remembered her all these years -- >> of course. who forgets an ephron girl. >> reporter: soon delia and peter were an item. at the same time at weill cornell, her blood tests were being monitored by dr. gail roboz. it was a cautionary measure because of nora's leukemia. >> every six months i would go into the doctor and she would take my blood, and she would say something like she is the most boring blood i've seen all day and send me off. >> reporter: delia's results continued to be boring for eight years, but then... >> in march of 2017, she comes in, she has a blood test, and she was almost getting ready to get up and go. and something flashed on the review of the blood smear. and i went to take a look, and all of a sudden there

is acute leukemia. >> reporter: when you saw that, what was your reaction. do you remember? >> i think i wanted to run away. the shock of this, i've got to tell you, is a gut punch for us and it is a gut punch to the patient. >> reporter: i spoke with dr. robos, and she said when she realized you had leukemia and she needed to tell you that, she wanted to run away. >> oh, myoodness. oh, my goodness. oh! oh, my god. >> reporter: delia writes about the diagnosis in her new memoir, "left untended." >> says he is sitting there, the left of the results come in, the results that leave no doubt that i have leukemia. i don't remember her telling me. i only remember suddenly knowing it. >> she is going from feeling fine to this awful news coming in the

hospital, catheter in her arm, chemotherapy, it is absolutely an unbelievable sort of 180 in one's life. >> reporter: but that 180 was, for delia and peter, a reason to take the next step. >> peter and i were having breakfast on sunday, and i was making french toast, and he suddenly stands up and says, will you marry me? it was so sweet. and i said yes. >> to have and to hold, to love and to cherish -- >> and we got married in the hospital, in the dining room, on the 14th floor, with jusfriends. and you were there. >> reporter: yes, i was there. as delia's long-time friend, capturing the whole thing on video. >> there i had the hospital band on my wrist and the flowers in my other hand -- >> and the wedding band on the other? >> exactly. it was just sort of a kind

of amazing disconnect. and yet at the same time, it was very loving. >> reporter: with her new husband by her side, delia tackled chemotherapy and then a stem cell transplant. you go to see your transplant doctor, and what does he say to you? >> he says basically i have a 20% chance of survival. and i said, but we just fell in love. i don't know why i said that because obviously it was absolutely irrelevant, but i guess in my head i wanted him to know this mattered. >> reporter: she says love is what kept her going. but the transplant took its toll and she was having trouble breathing. so she said to dr. roboz -- >> please come and see me. i just want out. i can't take it anymore. and she was calling in people and asking for that end of life conversation, so i was mentally scrambling for what would be a way to handle this.

and she said -- this is so brilliant. she said, give me 48 hours. and if i get somewhere, give me another 48. so she gave me hope and an end game in one sentence. sentence. >> i didn't want her to give up. >> reporter: 48 hours later, he breathing began to improve. today, four years later, there is no evidence of leukemia on any test. and she is still very much in love. >> when something like this happens, where everything fits in some way that is just extraordinary, it just makes you wonder about life.

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>> pauley: it is a dumpster diver's fantasy:

hundreds of artworks, possibly worth millions, discovered in the trash. they're now on display and on sale, with david pogue, let's dive in. >> reporter: jared whipple is a state order and a mechanic in connecticut. in 2017, he got a call from a contractor buddy who had been hired to clean out an old barn. >> he said, jared, nobody has been in there in, like, 40 years. >> reporter: when jared and his friend, george martin, arrived at the barn, they found... >> a giant dumpster jam-packed with art, from front to back. >> every piece is thick, plastic, with dust and dirt. >> reporter: but as they unwrapped the paintings, something clicked. >> i was, like, man, this stuff, who is this guy. >> reporter: were there signatures -- >> there are signatures on every one. s. hines.

we're googling and googling, and nothing is coming up. then a small painting from 1961 that as frances matt hines. here we go, we have a name. mr. google, where we at. >> reporter: mr. google revealed in 1980, artist frances hines had wrapped washington square arts in fabric. >> at that point, it's like this guy is famous. why is it in the dumpster? >> jared became consumed by the mystery of frances hines. >> i was obsessed with the research, every day. whether i'm at work, whether i'm home. >> reporter: the first breakthrough was an old book he found on ebay. >> and it was a treasure trove. it was a biography. it was hits family and friends. >> reporter: it turns out hines was born in 1920, grew up in cleveland, served in world

war ii, and became an illustrator for department store ads. frances hines had his 15 minutes of fame in 1980. peter hastings is a plush sher. publisher. >> he stands distinctly as the only artist to ever wrap a building in new york. >> reporter: almost every piece of hines' artwork involves -- >> tension. >> and all of the energy occurs within that tension. >> reporter: but then frances hines disappeared. >> frances really retired to his studio, essentially. he cared about one thing: creating every day. >> i just love the process of making art. >> so he would create all of this art in new york and then truck it to the barn because that was his storage facility, and just

keep filling it and filling it and filling it. and just forgetting about it. >> reporter: hines died in 2016 at age96, but iard was determined to resurrect his reputation. he began calling new york art galleries. >> i got so many doors shut in my face. >> reporter: is this a ssnob thing? finally he met peter hasting, who agreed to help. >> i was blown away by the originality i saw. >> reporter: is there a value to these paintings? >> the millions of dollars once all is said and done. >> reporter: in may, they will distribute them in south port, connecticut. by agreement with the hines' family, most of the art belongs to jared whipple. do you feel like the art

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>> pauley: it's a new tactic in the increasingly urgent battle again climate change. here is ben tracy. >> reporter: if climate change were a disaster film, it would likely be accused of being too over the top. wildfires reducing entire swamping cities, droughts

draining lakes and withering fields, and raging oceans redrawing the very maps of our coast. and now many cities and states are asking: who is going to pay for all of this? >> this is real. we're on the frontline of climate change right here in charleston. >> reporter: john tecklenburg is the mayor of charleston, south carolina. the city has been battered by an endless parade of floods due to sea level rise. some desperate homeowners have resorted to raising their homes by several feet. >> in the next 50 years, we'll see another two to three of sea level rise. >> reporter: so the city is raising large parts of its existing sea wall, and the army corps of engineers says charleston should build another eight miles of wall. the city expects an estimated $3 billion in

climate change-related costs.nosets >> youavto lorr: underneath one of the rocks are the fossil fuel countries, whose carbon emissions from coal, oil and gas, study after study have shown are major contributors to climate change. charleston is more than two dozen cities, counties, and states that are suing these companies, including exxon-mobil, shell, chevron, b.p., and philips. >> i feel if you contributed to the problem, you should considerate to the solution. >> reporter: so in some ways it is a bit of a money grab? >> well, to the extent they participated in what created this need, it is a money grab because there is some responsibility for what happened. >> reporter: the suits are modeled after the big tobacco cases of the 1990s. >> this innocent-looking product kills. >> reporter: and accused the companies and industry groups of making false and

misleading claims about climate change. >> i'm suing exxon-mobil because they lied to us. >> no court is going to have a hard time understanding that. >> reporter: william tong is attorney general of connecticut, he is suing exxon-mobil under the state's protection laws. he says internal company arch, ne b eon and mobile shows there was a problem since t the 1980s. >> shows at the level of our carbon dioxide rises the tonight will rise. >> reporter: and the suit also cites this 1988 internal draft mem memo from an exxon spokesperson. >> this is a strategy document from exxon-mobil that basically says, let's lie. let's say the science is not clear.

let's downplay the fact of climate change. >> reporter: tong points to ads that look like editorials from exxon-mobil, as well as executive's own words. >> but scientific evidence remains inconclusive as to whether human activities affect the global climate. >> reporter: some of the memos acknowledge uncertainty about this. does that strengthen the company's argument this is not settled science? >> no, it doesn't. bcause they knew with a fair degree of certain there could be catastrophic effects from the continued use of fossil fuel. the facts that scientists have questions about their data is unremarkablement that's what scientists do. >> reporter: you're argument is even if they didn't know everything, they knew enough? >> that's right. >> reporter: exxon-mobil is named in all 24 of the lawsuits and says these claims are baseless and without merit. they accused more than 40 companies -- >> the doubling of the co2

to the atmosphere will produce a tremendous greening of planet earth. >> reporter: some part of this video backed by the coal industry, promoting the benefits of pumping more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. >> as more and more scientists are confirming our world is deficient in carbon dioxide. >> reporter: we reached out to several of the companies. some responded, writing they're working to combat climate change. in addition, exxon-mobil and shell said these lawsuits do nothing to advance that goal. >> fighting climate change requires policy-making, not lawsuits. >> reporter: phil goldberg is with a group helping the fossil fuel industry push back against these lawsuits. >> the attorneys in some of the cases would say what they're doing is trying to hold some of meas companies liable for deception. >> it is not a position of who knew what and where. the federal government had the same information that

the energy companies had going back to the 1960s, '70s, and 80s. the question is what are we going to do about it today? >> reporter: richard lazarus teaches environmental law at harvard. >> cities and counties and states will be the ones left with the problem when the federal government doesn't step up to the plate. >> reporter: he says even if the cities and states prove the fossil fuel companies deceived the public about climate change, it doesn't necessarily mean they'll win. >> they have a good job of showing that the oil and gas companies engaged in fraudulent behavior. the challenge is to prove that their fraudulent behavior is what prevented the united states from passing the laws to reduce the greenhouse gas emissions. >> reporter: so far they have filed a series of motions slowing down the cases. charleston, south carolina, is bracing for a long and uncertain legal battle. if you're not successful with this lawsuit, what

does that mean? >> we're going to find a way to fund the improvements that we need. >> reporter: but i have bet you have heard the phrase "hope is not a strategy." >> hope spring eternal, right? >> reporter: but in the meantime, the water keeps rising. [sounds of water flowing]

>> pauley: it happened this past week, our "sunday morning" cameraman, efrain robles, became a united nations citizen. 33 years after arriving in this country from mexico with his mother. efrain says he is really proud. w're even prouder. ♪♪

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♪♪ ♪ a song and a dance ♪ ♪♪ >> pauley: it's a new musical based on an old movie, with one important thing inmon: billy crystal. tracy smith catches up with him on broadway. >> here he comes... >> are you going to say america's new funny man? >> no. >> ...mr. saturday night. >> reporter: when the film "mr. saturday night" hit the big screen in 1972, it seemed to have everything. >> buddy young, jr.!

>> reporter: it was billy crystal as the abrasive stand-up comedian buddy young, jr. >> last night i come home and i found my what have smooching and kissing with my best friend. so i said, lenny, i have to, but you? >> reporter: and a top-notch cast as his long-suffering family. >> and my daughter is no genius, either. don't get me started on her. [laughter] >> it's a joke. just a joke. >> reporter: it was crystal's first shot at directing, and he played buddy from a young star to a washed-up has-been. for billy crystal, the film was a personal victory, but a hit, it was not. you know, we talked about "mr. saturday night," and i asked you was it a hiccup or a career killer. and you said, oh, i thought it was a career killer. >> i did. this was, i thought, for me, my best work, and the fact that it didn't perform as well at the box office as we wand wa, u- youw,i,

basically. >> reporter: and what made it sting even more, crystal says, was that it came on the heels of some pretty huge career milestones. like 1989's when harry met sallyment. >> men and women can't be friends because the sex part always gets in the way. >> reporter: and 1991 "city slickers," which was a whole new level of box office success. but even though the buddy young, jr. story didn't shine as brightly, billy crystal never gave up on it. >> you g get up and put it back together again. >> reporter: if it is like getting punched in the face, what is it about this guy? >> because i thought there was something else to be said with him, more to do with him. and what we learned from

the film that didn't work as well as it could we found works in the show. ♪ unbelievable ♪ ♪ that's my last best chance, kid ♪ ♪ and don't i know it ♪ >> reporter: the show is "mr. saturday night, the, yocan sometimes say aife ways been a fight♪>> rte diffce is b msho tst. when he played buddy on film, he was only 43 and needed hours of makeup to play a 73-year-old. >> so it was a disaster. i mean, just my skin, it was exhausting. now i just show up and they have to make me look younger now. i'm actually older now than i was in the movie originally. ♪ my opening act was once

eddie fisher ♪ >> reporter: of course, bringing a movie to broadway isn't an entirely new idea. in 2001, mel brooks turned "the producers," into broadway gold. a few years later, billy, who by then had his own broadway show, the tony-winning "700 sundays" got a call from his old friend, mel. >> when i was finishing "700 sundays," mel brooks called me. billy will you come and play in the "producers." i said, mel, i love you, and i've been waiting for this call my whole life, but i don't want to be the fifth person playing it -- and he said, you won't, you'll be the 12th. and he said, th there are

these people who asked me can it be musical? that was in 2005. >> reporter: and now, more than 800 sundays later, here we are. at its heart, the show is about a man getting one last shot at greatness, and his fear of fading away. >> it is every comedian's worst nightmare, to wake up one day and not be funny and not be relevant and not be needed or thought about. >> reporter: is that your worst nightmare? >> i think it is everyone's who works. how do you stay funny? how do you stay with it? how do you stay on the surfboard. what's the sense in talking to you. >> okay, all right. >> reporter: he does have some help. in the film, david paymer played his long suffering brother, stan. ♪ just like we began ♪ >> reporter: now paymer is back on brow board for the broadway run. >> we're two old slippers.

we carried these guys in our heart for a long time. >> reporter: if there was no david ■paymer, do you think you could pull this off? >> not the way i want to. >> reporter: what billy crystal wants is doing the job right. and he is giving the toughest job to himself: he sings in no fewer than eight numbers. of course, we've heard his singing voice before. ♪ it is a wonderful night for oscar, oscar, oscar ♪ pie>> reporter: as oscar host, he would often start the show with a song. >> i would do the medleys, and that was a great thrill to do that with the orchestra. but this is different. >> reporter: different, indeed. mr. saturday night opens april 27th, and billy crystal will do seven shows a week, a tough schedule, even for younger players. he trained for this like an athlete. in rehearsals --

>> it is trying to get rid of it as quick as you get it. >> reporter: -- and at home. >> i know the yankees are looking for a short stop. yeah, you drag your butt home after a show. but you wake up,p the, and the first thing you do is, you go, bup, bup, bup, i'm here. i want to make sure you're not too hoarse or tired or anything. listen, it is the ultimate challenge, and right now i feel really strong and ready to do it. ♪ but i never thought i'd get there until now ♪ >> there is an electric feeling. when i sing that young duet when i'm 28, i feel like i'm 28. >> reporter: now, when you get off stage, do you still feel 28? >> no. i feel 97. >> reporter: you would never know it.

♪ unbelievable ♪ ♪♪ >> reporter: billy crystal is light on his feet, and his timing seems just right. >> so far it is working. it's working and thrilling. it's, like, crazy good. i almost giggle sometimes because i feel like i plant my feet, i get my body right, and i get there, and little 5' 7" me hit the big notes. >> reporter: and seeing him up on stage in a role that he loves, it is hard not to smile with him growing up in a little red house, on the edge of a forest in norway, there were three things my family encouraged:

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>> pauley: in a city filled with inspiring monuments, one washington, d.c. landmark has long been something of a mystery, until now. ed o'keefe offers us a

tour. ♪♪ >> reporter: its spires leap nearly 300 feet into the sky. at their pinnacle, a call to the heavens. it matches other monuments around the nation's capital. but for decades, it has posed something of a mystery for the millions who stream by on d.c.'s beltway, some even comparing it to the land of oz. >> when church members hear that, what do they think of that? >> we smile (laughing). but it is one of the reasons we have this open house. we won't get everybody who comes around the corner on the beltway, but i hope others will see it as much, much more than oz. >> reporter: they are two of the 12 apostles, the highest ranking elders of the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints. they traveled from utah to bring us inside the

church's hallowed washington, d.c. temple, a place normally of limits to all but to members of the faith. >> sometimes we're accused of what are the secret things you're doing in the temple. they're not secret; they're sacred. so we don't speak of them casually or lightly because to us they're so fundamental and so important to how we live. >> reporter: the temple has been under renovation since 2018, so non-members are temporarily allowed in for cross-examination. and now so are "sunday morning's" cameras, ahead of of a public open house that begins later this month. are we walking into another realm? >> yes, symbolically. >> reporter: the ap poapostles and their wives, cathy and susan, ushered across this entry bridge. >> we're leaving the world and entering a more heavenly place, where we learn about god. >> and we have a song that children sing when they're young, "i love to see the temple, i'm going there

some day. to feel the holy spirit, to listen and to pray." >> reporter: surprisingly, there is no soaring cathedral-like space inside. most of the rooms are windowless, hushed and intimate. one room that does wow is the baptistry. >> how warm is the water? >> it is warm. >> reporter: they bapbaptismal isn't for the living, but to anoint the church's long deceased ancestors. how do they know that is something that that ancestor wants? >> they don't, they plain don't know. but they can hope. >> it is, in a sense, a free will offering to that person who can choose to accept it or not. >> reporter: baptism of the dead is just one practice that makes thetandut established in y atnear00ears ago, the latter-day saints were persecuted for their beliefs. like most religious

institutions, the church has faced criticism on issues of race, sexuality, and gender. but its growing diversity across six continents suggests their message is being received. while their holy scriptures are known as the book of mormons, today they emphasize what they share with other christian faiths: a reverence for christ. >> a man and a woman kneel at this alter, and they're sealed together. not just until death do you part, but for this life and all of eternity. >> reporter: and that, in many ways, is one of the biggest differences between members of latter-day saints and other denominations, is that it doesn't end at death? >> we believe that families can be together forever. >> reporter: we ended our tour near the top of

the temple, in a room for quiet contemplation. >> this is the celestial room. this is a representation of our heavenly home. this is a place of light, of peace. ♪♪ >> reporter: a place of light and peace. a statement in this world and a declaration of faith to the next. there is still mystery in the washington, d.c. temple, but in the coming weeks, if you're curious, the doors will be open wide. ♪♪ ♪ ♪ we believe there's an innovator in all of us. ♪ ♪ that's why we build technology that makes it possible for every business...

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weekend of easter and passover, we have thoughts on war and peace and war. from yale university chaplain sharon kugler in new haven, and to begin, los angeles rabbi steve leader. >> during passover, our festival of freedom, we celebrate two kinds of freedom: freedom from and freedom to. we reminder ourselves that freedom from slavery is an imperative to use that freedom to liberate others who remain oppressed. god granted us free will. human suffering is there for a human problem, not a god problem. we cannot only pray for freedom and peace, we have to work for them. there are more slaves in the world now than in any other time in history. their anguish is in the clothes we wear, our coffee, our phones, and in many even sadder ways. there are billions more people shackled by poverty, addiction,

depression, anxiety, abuse, loneliness, and, of course, this cruel and senseless war in ukraine. the religious question, the spiritual question, the easter and passover question is: what shall we, who are among the freest and most fortunate humans whoever lived do with our freedom and good fortunate? let's not congratulate ourselves until we use them to liberate our brothers and sisters in ukraine and everywhere from the pharaohs of today. >> we have been living with a deep burden of global unrest, uncertainty, grief and fear that is starting to feel brutally defiant in its staying power. our spirits are suffering under the stress of it all. and now here we are gathered in this imperfect way across these many screens, longing for connection, for reasons to hope, longing for multiple kinds of peace.

what can we do thousands of miles away from a new war, a new invasion, to bring peace? let us pray for peace, peace in ukraine, where people are fleeing, hiding, or losing their very lives in defense of their home, their way of life. peace in all places, where aggression, poverty, ignorance, and violence oppresses and destroys our human family. pipeace in our aching hearts, so we can be part of the kind of healing that is restorative. peace in our minds to create a more just world. peace in the light. peace in the dark. peace in the big. peace in the small. peace in the weak. peace in the strong. may you be shalom, may you be salom, may you be chante, may you bring and be peace.

>> pauley: appearance are deceptive, and this morning steve hartman has proof. >> 46-year-old vaughn smith of gaithersburg, maryland, was reluct reluctant o even do this story. >> it's not like oh, yeah, i'm the best. >> and fact most people didn't know you had this skill? >> correct. i was just a guy cleaning the carpets. >> although carpet cleaner by trait, his real gift is for words. he is defined as a person who can speak at least 11 languages. as someone who took four

years of french in high school and only remembers one word, the idea that anyone could speak 11 languages is unfathomed. but vaughn doesn't just know 11. as the washington, d.c. post just verified, he is fluent in or has a basic grasp of all these languages. >> spanish, portuguese, estonian. >> and welsh, norwegian, japanese, hebrew, and even american sign language.[speakinn language] >> vaughn studies mostly with apps and books, up loading new words and phrases with almost fiberoptic speed. so far he has learned about 40 languages.[speaking fon language] >> do people immediately like you more when you speak their language? >> most of the time, yes. >> is that part of the draw for you? >> yes. >> although never diagnosed, vaughn suspects, and his mother sandra agrees, that he is

probably autistic. >> oh, yes, that was a problem. he had lack of prticipation, lack of communication. >> not able to suppresses exprey feelings properly. >> but over the years, vaughn has learned when you make the effort to speak to someone in their native tongue, people are so grateful, friendships often follow. >> it is about being able to connect to people. >> and you don't need to know any languages to understand the importance of that.[speaking foreign language] [laughter] >> pauley: tomorrow, the nuclear option, as in nuclear energy. and next week here on "sunday morning," the money issue. we add it all up. and now streaming, here comes the sun. >> if you can't see us, hear us on our sunday

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pauley. "face the nation" is just ahead. please join us when our trumpet sounds again next sunday mor ngngngngngng. ♪♪ [trumpet] ♪♪ >> brennan: i'm margaret brennan in washington. and this holiday weekend on "face the nation." russia responds to the ukrainians sinking a key battleship with a powerful barage of missile fire in the west, while president zelenskyy says the situation in mariupol is as severe as possible just inhumane. we'll talk with dimitri, and get analysis from the former commander of the u.s. army in europe, ben rogers. plus, delaware democratic senator chris coons will be here to talk about his fight to get more covid aid included in a relief bill that is stalled in congress. and what impact will the war in ukraine have on the world's food supy.