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diagnosis and what the cancer diagnosis and what with him and catherine coming at the same time, so it's great that he's on the mend . that he's on the mend. >> we'll be happy to be out and about and everyone you know, seeing that he's in good in good health. >> it's good news for him, i suppose, and it's quite favourable news for the nation, isuppose. i suppose. >> the families of three men murdered in the reading terror attack are calling for urgent change. after a coroner ruled their deaths were probably avoidable . friends james avoidable. friends james furlong, doctor david wales and joseph ritchie—bennett were fatally stabbed in june 2020 when libyan refugee kyrees saadallah targeted them in a town centre park. the coroner said failings by the home office and the local nhs community mental health team contributed to their deaths. james furlong's father, gary, said he has very little confidence that an attack like this will not happen again .
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like this will not happen again. humza yousaf says he will not resign as scotland's first minister, ahead of a crucial test of his leadership next week . he says that as a minority government, his party will need to make some concessions as it negotiates with other parties. it's after the collapse of the snp's power sharing deal with the greens yesterday. but humza yousaf says he'll fight on. >> i fully intend to, not just win that vote, but i intend to fight to make sure that the government stays, not just the government stays, not just the government continues to deliver on the priorities of the people , on the priorities of the people, like, for example, investing in affordable housing. so there's all that political game playing happening from the opposition. it will not be taking part. it will be getting, of course, on with the job. and when the vote comes, i fully intend to win. >> the foreign office has summoned the russian ambassador after a british man was allegedly recruited as a russian spy. 20 year old dylan earl has been charged with conducting hostile activity in the uk to benefit russia . he's accused of
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benefit russia. he's accused of masterminding an arson plot on london businesses . masterminding an arson plot on london businesses. four masterminding an arson plot on london businesses . four other london businesses. four other men were also charged in connection with the same investigation . those are the top investigation. those are the top stories. and for all the latest do sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. common alerts. now, though, it's back to . patrick. to. patrick. >> you've all heard of the evil hook handed hate cleric abu hamza, the terrorist scumbag allowed to prowl the streets of london, preach at mosques and live in a £1 million council flat? well meet at rangzieb ahmed. so this guy was osama bin laden's top operative in europe. he was convicted of directing terrorism. he was jailed in 2008 for plotting mass murder and was caught with a book of terror contacts written in invisible ink and a rucksack that contained traces of explosives. it's emerged that this guy has
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received almost £1 million in legal aid, reportedly, and could. now. are you ready ? yep. could. now. are you ready? yep. he could be a free man by june because he's taken part in a de—radicalisation class and now he's up for parole . do we he's up for parole. do we remember how deradicalisation classes have gone in the past ? classes have gone in the past? what the usman khan managed to convince everyone that he was no longer a rabid jihadi. he stabbed two young people to death. in the wake of that , death. in the wake of that, convicted terrorists who'd been released were made to sit lie detector tests. can we guess what happened? four of them were immediately sent back to prison because shock, horror , they because shock, horror, they hadnt because shock, horror, they hadn't really been de—radicalised. should we just take a little look at some of ahmed's back catalogue? well, according to reports, he was arrested in indian kashmir. allegedly fighting for the group harkat ul mujahideen. in jail , harkat ul mujahideen. in jail, he was reportedly sent money by syed omar sheikh. the british extremist who went on to murder the journalist daniel pearl.
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after spending seven years in an indian jail without charge , he indian jail without charge, he was eventually set free in may 2001. now he was born in rochdale, but split his life between lancashire and pakistan. his brother said that he used to keep a kitchen knife under his pillow, and essentially described him as behaving like a complete lunatic. he apparently went back to pakistan to quote further his career as an international terrorist . he was international terrorist. he was eventually sent to prison in britain, and in 2021, a previous parole attempt was dismissed after he falsely accused prison guards of being racist. after they ordered him to obey covid social distancing rules. in 2020, a damages claim he brought against m15 and m16 for colluding in his torture by pakistani intelligence was thrown out in 2019. he moaned when his mp3 player was confiscated, despite apparently it being against sharia law. he tried to get a £45 a week job in a prison based call centre. pfison a prison based call centre. prison bosses have also blocked his bid as well for working in
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the old cafe area, so he apparently was furious that he was denied a job baking cakes and pizzas for inmates. as recently as september 2022, he was deemed to be too dangerous for release. but now he's gone through a de—radicalisation programme and maybe he's okay. now, if anybody from the parole board thinks that osama bin laden's main man in europe will ever be safe to walk the streets, then i think they need to be sent for a head scan. now a lot of these jihadi lunatics seem to be desperate to meet their maker, don't they? why don't we just help them get there? in some cases, when it comes to some fanatical islamists , i think we should be islamists, i think we should be more in favour of execution instead of parole . let's get the instead of parole. let's get the thoughts on my panel this evening. i am joined by, ex bbc anditv evening. i am joined by, ex bbc and itv political chief john sergeant. i've got apprentice finalist and entrepreneurjoana finalist and entrepreneur joana jaflue finalist and entrepreneur joana jarjue and of course the journalist and broadcaster alex armstrong. alex, i'll start with
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you on this. i mean, this guy surely will never be safe to walk the streets. >> no, i don't think anyone believes the de—radicalisation programmes actually work, do they?i programmes actually work, do they? i mean, you've shown evidence of that, patrick, that people go on to recommit crimes, even if they've gone through prison, which is meant to be a deterrent and quite frankly , i deterrent and quite frankly, i hope the parole board make the right decision and leave him where he is. if i had it my way, patrick, i would have him deported from the country. i don't think i'd go as far as executions , if i'm being honest executions, if i'm being honest with you, for bad speech. let's put it that way. for, for, you know, extremist speech. but i would say to people who come to this country and are born here and want to go to somewhere where their views are going to be, perhaps socialised and respected, they should they should be left out of the country. >> john, i've just got in my notes here. you think it's quite difficult. is this a legal position? you can't just say he's because he's horrible. we can't have him around. i mean, he did want to kill us, john, but it's not. >> we don't decide these things on the basis of what do we think about this guy as he is a nice
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man, a good man, a bad man? no, he's obviously a dreadful man. all sorts of ways. his record shows that. but he was born in rochdale. he's gone through a system and you've got to make sure that system is allowed to continue . for if you say, well, continue. for if you say, well, now what we do, just take one look at this guy and say , no, look at this guy and say, no, don't like him, don't like his. he could be locked up indefinitely. like what he's done. no but you've got to have some process, that's all. if the parole board believes they did last time, it wasn't that long ago when they said no, he shouldn't be released. i agree with you. i'm as sceptical as everyone about this. do you de—radicalisation plan? oh, yeah. what does that mean? you say over and over again , i'm not say over and over again, i'm not that keen on on, you know, islam gone off the old jihad stuff. yeah. you know, i've gone off. i'm. i feel better now about, you know, the, the king and being here. no you can't do that. and the parole board have got a very difficult job. but they've got to decide. they've got to decide. look, okay. stay in. but what you can't do, we found this with internment in northern ireland. i was a reporter in northern ireland. internment was brought in and the whole thing turned out to be
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a bit of a shambles. nobody knew how long they'd be kept. it went on for a long time. it seemed unfair. it built up recruits for the ira in those years. this would bring up more recruits . would bring up more recruits. you've got to say, look, we are protecting our values , however protecting our values, however much it may cost. whatever the difficulties are, we've got to believe in the law. we've got to believe in the law. we've got to believe in the law. we've got to believe in a system otherwise , believe in a system otherwise, it's a council of despair. >> joanna de—radicalisation, doesit >> joanna de—radicalisation, does it work , i don't believe in does it work, i don't believe in de—radicalisation, but i believe in rehabilitation. so i think that when it comes to criminals across the board, i think that people can be rehabilitated. if you've been a thief in the past, maybe you've grown up in a really bad area. whatever your life circumstances , maybe you life circumstances, maybe you can be shown that you can be a better person that can integrate into society. whereas where i draw the line, is anybody who's, actually been proven to have been involved in terrorism, never mind somebody who was basically, you know , al qaeda's basically, you know, al qaeda's best mate, osama bin laden's best mate, osama bin laden's best mate. that's a completely different kettle of fish, paedophiles, rapists, people like that. i just think that you
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should keep them well, well, well away from from society. and i don't think those type of people can change their minds, whereas with other people that are criminals, i think that you can rehabilitate them. and in a lot of cases, actually prison makes people worse. criminals. yeah. >> i mean, you had mitzi on this show . i think you had >> i mean, you had mitzi on this show. i think you had him on a couple of weeks ago. and it seems like the young man's learned from his experience, and he's apologised, and hopefully he'll be a better person from his experience in prison and he has been rehabilitated. i agree with you and john. i don't think you can rehabilitate ideological. sort of. i'm stuck in my ways. these are really extreme views. >> i mean, why should we have to live with this is the thing. so it's all very well and good saying, oh, you know, maybe we should give this guy a chance. but if we give this guy a chance, other people might die. >> no, i don't think it's so much giving him a chance. i mean, what, you have a chance of. and what's the point of presumably releasing someone into the outside world is you follow them, you find out who they're getting in touch with, you find out what what lines of what al—qaeda supporters are there. who are they going to? what are they doing? never
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forget that. you know, someone may appear to be released, but of course, someone like him is always there. always keep an eye on him. they're still a risk , on him. they're still a risk, you know, look at that attack that you showed a clip of, you know, on the, on the bridge. >> it can still happen. but what i will say, actually, is that where i draw the line in terms of deradicalisation is children. so i do believe that in the case of, for example, shamima begum, i think that's a completely different case. but this is a grown man that was actively planning things himself rather than, you know, shamima begum . than, you know, shamima begum. >> so you'd so you'd, you'd keep this guy locked up. yeah. but you'd let shamima begum walk the streets. >> i wouldn't let her walk the streets. i think that she should still be behind bars, but i think that it's. you've got a higher likelihood of actually de—radicalizing her in the sense that she was radicalised as a small vulnerable. well not small, but she was a teenager as a child, basically, and groomed in that situation. you've got a much stronger argument for shamima than what you've got with this guy. >> yeah. there's another point about this. of course, the prison authorities usually like to give somebody some hope so they can control these prisoners. if you say , look,
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prisoners. if you say, look, whatever happens, you're not going to see the light of day . going to see the light of day. this is it now, forever. it does mean that the prison authorities can't then say, look, you play your cards right. we'll do this. >> it's a question of whether or not you would have faith , alex, not you would have faith, alex, that he will be properly monitored. on the outside. there was a case of the stratum attacker. that guy was basically under 24 hour surveillance. and what happened was he managed to run into, i think it was a boot or something like that, and just grab a knife. and i think nobody died apart from he was shot in the end, of course. but, you know , there's a question of know, there's a question of whether or not the authorities can ever actually keep them safe. so yeah, no, i think we all understand that we haven't got the resources in this country to monitor every single person that we release from prison , despite whether they're prison, despite whether they're dangerous or not or radicals or whatever it is. >> what really worries me is the prison system is seeing a massive rise in people leaving prison as extremists, so they might go in for petty crimes, but they are now being radicalised by people like this man inside prisons, and they're coming out and committing those terrorist offences . so how do we terrorist offences. so how do we deal with this in the prison system? i don't have an answer
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for that, but i hope there's someone smart enough out there that does more prisons. yeah, yeah, that's not a bad idea, john.i yeah, that's not a bad idea, john. i agree with you. >> more prisons i agree. yeah. >> more prisons i agree. yeah. >> yeah. well we're going to need it. i mean, he has another aspect of life where it's not it's not kept up with rapid population growth, has it. you can't not have more prison support, more people. but anyway, there we go. look now. still to come. thank you very much. good start, by the way. still to come. we do talk about humza yousaf. yes. his reign as first minister of scotland is hanging by a thread. i think that's been quite generous actually. but next we will discuss the good news that king charles is returning to public facing duties. so the mail on sunday's editor at large, charlotte griffiths. she joins me live in the studio. and we're also going to be talking to a former butler as well, just trying to get that personal thing. what will the king really be feeling like at the moment? make sure you stay tuned to patrick christys
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welcome back to patrick christys
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tonight on gb news now, buckingham palace have announced that the king will return to pubuc that the king will return to public facing duties this week. shall we have a quick look through the statement? shall we? so buckingham palace gave the update on the king's return to pubuc update on the king's return to public facing duties in that statement today , they said it is statement today, they said it is too early to say for how much longer his treatment will continue. it added that doctors were very encouraged, though, by the progress made so far. they remain positive about the king's continued recovery. the type of cancer has not been publicly disclosed, but the king's medical team are sufficiently pleased with the progress made so far that the king is now able to resume a number of public facing duties. so he's going to be going to a cancer treatment centre. he's also going to be welcoming envoys from japan as well, at the request of rishi sunak and a few other bits and bobs as well. joining me now to discuss this is charlotte griffiths, the editor at large at the mail on sunday. charlotte thank you very, very much. so what did you make from reading this statement then? i mean, it's i suppose it's broadly good
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news. >> i think it's broadly good news. >> it's obviously intended to be a huge boost to our confidence and happiness and faith in the royal family. and it's not that i think it's covering anything up . i just think it stops short up. i just think it stops short of saying he's in remission because he's not yet in remission, and the treatment will be ongoing . so, you know, will be ongoing. so, you know, in some ways it's really positive. he's obviously well enough to go to events in june. so they're planning for an event, you know, in two months time. and i think we can look positively at that as, you know, encouraging. >> and i think one of them's particularly keen on is ascot. is that right. >> yeah . i revealed on sunday >> yeah. i revealed on sunday that he's going to ask it because see, you can never keep an aristo away from the season. the season is june, which is when all these swanky events happen. so one of the first things that, you know, came to me was that he was going to go to royal ascot, and that's when i started thinking, okay, well, if he's going to go to royal ascot, he's probably going to do some more serious things, such as trooping of the colour. we don't know yet, but maybe he'll don't know yet, but maybe he'll do d—day celebrations, but he was determined to go to alaska
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because it was his mother's favourite event and she never, ever missed a single one until actually the very end of her life in her whole reign. so he, i think to honour his mum's memory, is determined to go, you know, and it's a big event. it lasts all day and it takes five days. so, let's see how many days. so, let's see how many days he attends. >> do you think there's a way of keeping him quite protected ? keeping him quite protected? isn't there? really there? >> yeah. so the guidance i was getting was that it's the absolutely perfect event for where he's at now, because he kind of has to do a bubble covid style arrangement . and in royal style arrangement. and in royal ascot, there's a huge big glass box where everyone can see him. but of course, because of the glass, he's not going to be inhaung glass, he's not going to be inhaling an entire racecourse's worth of germ's while his immune system is compromised. so that's perfect. and then the other thing about it is he goes on this carriage ride, which is an open top carriage ride, and he can wave at everyone and, you know, be in the spirit of this incredibly glamorous royal event, but without breathing in, basically breathing in the germs of everyone . yeah, it's a good event. >> and the other way of reading this, which which is the truth,
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okay, is that he is now living with cancer, right? you mentioned there you say anywhere that he's in remission. yeah. because it doesn't sound like he is. and so this is a man who is not getting any younger, who is living with cancer, which i think is still concerning to people. isn't it really ? people. isn't it really? >> i think it's concerning. i think probably we're all wanting them to say by the way, he's going to be in remission. he's got exactly this long, you know, left, but you just can't you can't predict that , but i think, can't predict that, but i think, you know, i think he's itching to get back to events and he's got that really strong mental attitude that's , you know, not attitude that's, you know, not everybody does have when they're going through cancer. and he's just determined to get out there. and he probably doesn't know how long he's got left. could be years. who knows. but he's you know he's determined to just live his life and keep going. and he knows what his mother always told him , which is mother always told him, which is that you have to be seen to be believed. if you're a member of the royal family and in the void of seeing royals , we know what of seeing royals, we know what happens. conspiracy theories develop and we all start getting paranoid. and the number of people that must have asked you have asked me, is it true he's
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only got x amount of time to live? and actually, by being out and about, i think that will stop all that sort of mad speculation. >> yeah. and it's potentially a busy summer, isn't it really? because we've got the anniversary of the coronation as well , i anniversary of the coronation as well, i think. and so, would you expect him to, to be doing something for that? they've said that he might be, for example . that he might be, for example. so, i mean, presumably he's going to be doing, you know, a fair bit about that. i would have thought. yeah. >> well, the year on from the coronation, i think a lot of this is actually brought on by the fact it's coming up to a year since the coronation. i think that's kind of the impetus behind that , behind all this. behind that, behind all this. and that's why he released his photo, which was also to celebrate 19 years that he's been married to camilla quite a long time . yes, so i think all long time. yes, so i think all of this is about that. all of this is about how he started his reign. and then he had to do a hard stop just when he was getting going. and now he's done his thing and he wants to just get going again and start being king. you know, i think fundamentally good news for britain as well. >> this is the thing because , >> this is the thing because, you know, whichever way you dress this up, at the end of the day, he's a human being. okay and he obviously had a quite big
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scare, big health scare came on top of a on top of a few other family health scares as well. so it all was on top at the same time. and you know, for him to now be having undergone treatment and still be going through treatment, but be able to kind of go out and about, i think gives a lot of hope for a lot of people, especially at this time. we've got a lot of nhs waiting lists at record levels and all of that. i think it can give a lot of hope to a lot of people. >> yeah, and that's exactly why he's going next week to, to a cancer hospital to meet other cancer hospital to meet other cancer patients, patients and give them hope because, you know, he's not looking too frail. i mean, i know people that have had cancer and treatment made them very frail very quickly. but he's not he looks fine in that picture he released today. he's lost a little bit of weight, but he's certainly looking pretty sort of sturdy, to be honest, so he may as well get out there, offer some hope to people and say, look, i'm one of you. i'm going through this as well. >> and also soft power, soft diplomacy , which is one thing diplomacy, which is one thing that i think the royal family does absolutely perfectly . if does absolutely perfectly. if he's meeting the leaders of japan as well at the request of rishi sunak, i think that bodes
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incredibly well, really . and incredibly well, really. and that's again great for britain on the world stage. i think even some of the royal family's biggest detractors can't really deny that they are a great tool when it comes to britain's power. so that would be good. one thing that really stood out to me, though, with this, was announcing that he's going to do, by the sounds of it, a raft of public appearances and public engagements. i looked at it and i thought , you know, i really i thought, you know, i really hope that this not my king brigade and the republicans just leave him alone for this, because at the end of the day, they are looking at an older man who is still got cancer and they shouldn't be going out and about and shouting at him, i don't think, yeah, i totally agree. >> i think he'll be protected to some extent by the fact that the kind of events he's going to are things like royal ascot, you know, he's going to be in the royal enclosure as members only, other events, you know, maybe they'll show up at this cancer event next week, but i really hope they do leave him alone. they absolutely have to. i mean, this is a man who is overcoming the personal challenge of going through cancer treatment and then to fall at the final hurdle by being abused out in public
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would just be horrendous. so yeah, i kind of i hear you on that. but i do think they'll be careful to find events where you know he won't. random members of the public won't just be able to bowl up to him and hold placards. >> be confident though, you know they must be confident because if he was to make this announcement and if he was to go to 1 or 2 things and then retreat again , i don't think retreat again, i don't think you'd make an announcement like the one that you made today, unless you were pretty confident that he was, you know, on the other side of this thing and that it was going to be a way of managing this going forward. >> yeah, i totally agree. i mean, they are announcing basically about two events at a time. so we know the next two, and then we'll probably find out another two. but that's his aides being cautious. i honestly think charles, if you let him out he'd go to everything. he'd probably turn up at glastonbury if you let him. he's itching to go out. so. so they must be really confident. and he is obviously instilling in his aides this confidence by saying to them, i just want to get cracking and it's, it's actually the aides, from what i gather and what i've conversations i've had is them that are sort of saying, oh, hold, hold on, hold on. probably predicting the same thing as you. what if what if he
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does a couple of things and then he has to row back. but i just don't think charles thinks that'll happen. i think he thinks he can keep going all summer and just finally as well . summer and just finally as well. >> i wonder if this takes the heat off kate a little bit , >> i wonder if this takes the heat off kate a little bit, i think so, i mean, it's certainly something we're like leaving alone at the moment because just. >> kate strategy is totally different to charles. it's charles has always been pretty open. he's issued these q and a's to the press every once in a while. and actually he's played it really well. whereas kate's situation has developed so fast. and, you know, she had the photo shop gate. so i just think it's the whole strategy is slightly different there. so, you know, i think it does take the heat off kate and probably that's half the reason he's doing it. >> yeah, i think so. i mean , it >> yeah, i think so. i mean, it is leadership. it is leadership. he is leading the family. he's doing it as best as he can. and obviously we do all look for him. and, you know, taking that statement at face value, it is a massive step in the right direction. so charlotte thank you very, very much. great to have you on the show and have your insights and wisdom there. charlotte griffiths, editor at
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large at the mail on sunday. look coming up, we will speak to the man who suggested to his priest that christine should rise up and take a stand. this was over islamist attacks. he was over islamist attacks. he was rewarded with a visit from two police officers and a mental health volunteer for his trouble , so i'm looking forward to chatting to him. but next, former snp councillor austin shendan former snp councillor austin sheridan voted for humza yousaf. is he regretting it now? the first minister has reduced the
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welcome back to patrick christys. tonight, will humza yousaf be the first minister this time next week? yousaf was defiant today. so here is his reaction when asked if he intended to resign. >> no, i fully intend to. not just win that vote, but i intend to fight to make sure that the government stays, not just the government stays, not just the government continues to deliver on the priorities of the people , on the priorities of the people, like, for example, investing in affordable housing. so there's all that political game playing happening from the opposition. it will not be taking part. it will be getting, of course, on with the job. and when the vote comes, i fully intend to win . comes, i fully intend to win. >> well, we'll see about that, won't we? the vote next week could not be tighter. so in a nutshell, humza needs all of the snp people. plus his former leadership rival and snp defector ash regan to vote for him to survive. so any less than
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that and it looks a lot like he'll be toast. so alba, the other party, one of the other parties there, insiders have said that, her demands could include the scottish government ditching their gender recognition reforms completely, which would be significant, really, for humza yousaf to do that, wouldn't it? and raise serious questions about whether or not he was only ever doing that for political gain, which is ironic given the way it's panned out. but to discuss this now, i am joined by former snp councillor austin sheridan. austin, thank you very much. great to have you on the show. now i understand that you voted for humza yousaf. i'm just going to ask, you know, when you voted for him when he was transport minister, who was fined for driving without the correct insurance when he was health minister? 1 in 7 scots on nhs waiting list. he missed the vote on gay marriage. there was the old ferry disaster , crime has old ferry disaster, crime has risen. when he was justice minister. why did you vote for it ? it? >> well, first of all, humza yousaf did vote in favour of equal marriage, just to make the
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viewers aware of that, but the reason i voted for humza yousaf is because he promised to continue the snp , on continue the snp, on a progressive agenda. and he stood on a commitment to maintaining the bute house agreement, which i was in favour of, so lots of members of the snp were persuaded by those arguments. and it turns out that that the majority of those who voted in favour of humza yousaf becoming leader and they voted for him . leader and they voted for him. and based on those principles and what i find very concerning, is that if you look at the arithmetic of the scottish parliament and is that it seemed to me that the green party are the only viable party that the snp can can work with, because we certainly can't work with the conservative party, we can't work with labour because they fight for the same ground. that the snp do. and, you know, and electoral contests and the
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liberal democrats under the leadership of alex cole—hamilton, are very much anti snp. and so all that will leave you with would be the green party, or the backwards thinking , green party, or the backwards thinking, party of alex salmond, which is the alba party. you know , and the other candidates, know, and the other candidates, which i feel, you know, have expressed racism, have expressed homophobia, have expressed transphobia . and that's transphobia. and that's certainly not not a party that a member like myself would feel comfortable working with. >> so he's toast then ? >> so he's toast then? >> so he's toast then? >> i don't think he's toast. i think that what he has to do is i mean , my understanding from i mean, my understanding from today's interview, which i must admit, right, if we're being honest, it was, i believe that humza yousaf has made a massive political misjudgement. if he felt that the greens were going to be, you know, okay, you know, with how this was dealt with, but but certainly up until the conference for a further humza yousaf, i would certainly be refocusing my efforts on speaking to the scottish greens and trying to build up a
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constructive working relationship, because what i do know, is that members like myself who are committed to a progressive agenda, certainly won't accept working with alex salmond's alba party. and if humza yousaf does win the confidence vote, from the support of alex salmond's alba party, he may win that vote. but there will certainly be lots of snp members who will not accept that, and they will find that intolerable . and i'm one of intolerable. and i'm one of those members who would find working with alba intolerable. what i would also question as well is who exactly was advising humza yousaf and you know, you know, to take this measure and there's been speculation , you there's been speculation, you know, that stephen flynn, the westminster leader, you know, i'm understanding is that he was in holyrood, and wednesday speaking to msps and i would be really interested to know exactly what he was discussing with them. and, you know , and if with them. and, you know, and if you know what's being done has beenin you know what's being done has been in humza yousaf best interest, because i don't
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believe that he's been advised properly, and he's certainly found himself in a terrible position . position. >> i've got i've got to be honest here. i mean, i rattled off a few things there before. i actually just wonder if he's always been a dud. i mean, there's a case to say this guy's failed upwards really, in everything since he's been since he's been first minister, he's reportedly overseen the contraction of the scottish economy, missed a&e targets, nhs waiting lists which have increased apparently 9.5% on the year before he took over. he's waited a load of money. 134 grand on nine independence papers, a rise in violent and sexual offences and more than 12,400 train cancellations. i mean, you might care about the progressive stuff. i think most people care more about that stuff. don't they? >> well, i think that this is the point as well. you know, as an african—american attempt, you know, to say that, you know, to say that the green party , right, say that the green party, right, you know, are to blame for all the shortfalls , that that would the shortfalls, that that would be deeply mistaken. i mean, i mean, i mean, clearly , you know, mean, i mean, clearly, you know, there's been mistakes in the part of the snp as well. and this is just me being honest and
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being very frank. right. there's no point in, you know, investing things up. but in terms of humza's leadership , you know, i humza's leadership, you know, i mean, he he took over the snp in very difficult circumstances . very difficult circumstances. and you know, i believe that, you know, the overall and, you know, he's faced a number of challenges that he inherited, i believe , you know, that he has believe, you know, that he has deau believe, you know, that he has dealt with them to the best of his ability. and, you know, and for myself , i mean, i've known for myself, i mean, i've known humza since i was 15 years old. i'm 31 years old now. humza is not much older than me . and not much older than me. and humza, you know, you know, for almost half his life he's known me for half of my life. and i know that he's a genuine straight up guy and i know that he genuinely cares and he believes in public service. however, i think that what's happened, over the past few days has been a clear, you know , a has been a clear, you know, a clear error of political judgement . i clear error of political judgement. i think that to deny that. >> but it's another era, is it not? is it not? >> and i think that now he has to focus on on fixing those errors, because if not, if he
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doesn't fix those errors, he will be facing a revolt within his own party. and unfortunately , if he decides to do a deal with alex salmond's alba party , with alex salmond's alba party, i'll be one of those people who will be calling for his resignation . resignation. >> yeah, i mean, it's another it's another error of judgement , it's another error of judgement, though, isn't it? i mean, going to qatar. a couple of months after hamas invaded israel was an error of judgement . an error of judgement. >> well, as i say , when it comes >> well, as i say, when it comes to the middle east, you know, there are a whole range of issues there, right? and if it comes to having diplomatic relations, you know, if it comes to speaking to people on both sides , then then i'm all for sides, then then i'm all for that. and but if we're talking about the current circumstances, he's dealt with the bute house agreement and if the agreement had to end. right. i mean, if people wanted the agreement to end, not necessarily right . you end, not necessarily right. you know, the worst thing in the world. i think the problem with how it's how he's went about it and how he's dealt with it, because the scottish green party will have a debate. we are due to let their members vote on the
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future of that agreement. and if humza yousaf felt that the snp were going to withdraw from that agreement , it were going to withdraw from that agreement, it may have were going to withdraw from that agreement , it may have been agreement, it may have been a more sensible course of action to have allowed snp members, you know, the rank and file members, to actually have a say, but the fact that he decided to pull the rug out from under and the two leaders of the green party , you leaders of the green party, you know, patrick harvie and lorna slater, and they actually said that they were going to put their leadership of their party on the line in order to save this agreement. so the fact that he's done that, no wonder, no wonder that, you know, the green party feel deeply aggrieved by what's happened. and i must admit, you know, and, you know, as somebody who was a massive champion humza yousaf and you know that and i, i still hope that he can save his leadership, but if, you know, if he doesn't recognise that that's an error of judgement, then that is a major problem. but then i would also, you know , and yeah, i also, you know, and yeah, i mean, what, what entrances to
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that because that must have been people advising him , you know, people advising him, you know, that have been giving them, you know, some pretty good advice. well what leadership are you going in to bat for here though? >> i mean, you know, this guy's hate crime stuff. he had more reports apparently , about reports apparently, about himself than j.k. rowling in the first few days. he's police scotland have been crippled over this, and they've got to investigate every single one. i mean, that's it's ridiculous what he's done there. the labour party have now overtaken the snp in scotland for the first time in scotland for the first time in quite a while. independence looks dead in the water. i mean, why are you still going over the top for this guy? >> well, i mean, it's very interesting. i mean , every interesting. i mean, every single party in the scottish parliament, you know, back the nafion parliament, you know, back the nation apart from the conservatives, let's put things in perspective that it's not just not just the snp. >> every single political party backed that apart from the tories in terms of independence, independence, poland, i mean, despite maybe, you know , you despite maybe, you know, you know, ups and downs in snp, poland, independence, poland, you know, has been consistent, as i'm still sitting, you know, almost 5050 and that's not
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changed. so, so despite and you know, and any snp poland and independence and the scottish national party and you know are both very separate things. but what i do recognise and what i do think that we're doing is that you focus on, you know, as good governance, and in to order win independence, we need to, we need to ensure that the leading pro—independence party, which is the scottish national party and, you know, can govern. >> what's he done right, austin? come on, let's round this off. what's he done? right >> what's he done right, well , >> what's he done right, well, he's done lots of things, right. >> i mean, i mean, for example, you know , giving free travel to you know, giving free travel to under 22, for example . and, you under 22, for example. and, you know, i think was a fantastic policy . and then just today, you policy. and then just today, you know, he has announced £80 million, you know, back into affordable housing. and so even despite everything that has happened, you know, the we are looking at what he's doing today and he's still pursuing progressive policies. but what
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the test is for members like me is will he continue to pursue those those but those are unpopular, though. >> this is why he's in such a difficult place. he's got he's got rid of the green stuff. he got rid of the green stuff. he got rid of the green stuff. he got rid of the right. >> and does it deliver alex salmond's alba party? yeah, i'm afraid for members like me, it's game over. and that is my stark message to him. >> all right. okay, look , can i >> all right. okay, look, can i i'm. i'm from the north of england. i'm renowned for being a little bit tight. i won't use the old lazy scottish stereotype, but if you wanted to put a tenner on it, is he still first minister this time next week ? week? >> i hope he will be. and i hope he will do the right thing. i think he will. the green party, and i hope we'll get a working relationship. >> she's gonna. all right, so we'd have to give it to the greens. you'd have to give in to the greens and do do all of do give in to all of their demands. you'd have to reverse ferry. you'd have to reverse ferry. you'd have to completely reverse ferry . ferry. >> that's not about giving in, what it's about is compromise. you know, the scottish parliament and, you know, there's no party that has a majority. and so what you have to look at is the facts on the
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ground. and the only political party that i can see that would be willing to work constructively with the snp would be the green party. the tories are not interested. labour are not interested, the liberals are not interested. and alex salmond's alba party are not. >> i wonder if the a racist or homophobic and transphobic and thatis homophobic and transphobic and that is certainly not a political party that i would want to be associated with. okay, well, the alba party not here to defend themselves, but austin, thank you very, very much. austin sheridan there, former snp councillor. well, look. yeah, what's your takeaway from that? i think it's, i think it's a struggle for humza , isn't it's a struggle for humza, isn't it? look, coming up at ten, following today's news about king charles, are the anti—monarchists finally going to give it a rest? i will ask my brilliant panel how long humza yousaf has left as well. and we just had a staunch defence of him now from austin sheridan, who's fighting the good fight for him. but next, but next. but next we meet the man accosted by police for speaking out against islamist terrorism. we've got a video clip of what happened to
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tick. welcome back to patrick christys tonight on gb news now. young father of three. john joe hooper was overheard this week telling his local priest in a private conversation, saying that christians needed to rise up and take a stand. so the day after a bishop was reportedly stabbed in a sydney church by a teenage islamist. okay, so that's the context here. not even 24 hours later, two sussex police officers and a senior nhs mental health worker decided to pay mr hooper a visit. and, well , hooper a visit. and, well, here's the footage. >> people have raised concerns . >> people have raised concerns. what concerns about your views, whether is that you've got concerns about what's going on in australia? >> yeah. so i'm an orthodox christian now. you've turned up at my house because i went and see my priest . so because i've see my priest. so because i've questioned about the church not
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acting on the behalf of christians, you're now turning up here with mental health nurses, assuming that i'm some right wing nutter. >> well, i'm very pleased to say that john joe hooper joins me now. john, thank you very much, so go on then. just tell us a little bit more about what happened then. so you what were you do you were talking to your priest and you said something about rising up, did you? and then you, the police at the door go on. >> no. well, what happened was i went to the priest just to speak like spiritual advice, purely what it was for a half hour with him spoke about what's going on. christians in like lebanon, palestine, pakistan , nigeria, palestine, pakistan, nigeria, like all over. it is happening. yeah conversation was had along them lines said you need to take a stand. spoke about the lgb in the church as well. i'm allowed to speak about that with the brief. i just said to him, what's your opinion? you want to talk about it? next thing you know, please turn up . know, please turn up. >> i mean, you are right that
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christians all over the world are being persecuted in some cases executed. actually and that does appear to be very little outrage or media coverage about that, which is remarkable when you see the way that certain other groups of people are treated as well. so why did the police come then? come on. so. so what what was it that you said that they were particularly concerned about? and who tipped them off as well ? them off as well? >> taking a stand? that's why that's the specific reason they turned up is because i said christians should rise up and take a stand. just be counted in her. i didn't call for violence. and i'm surprised you didn't play and i'm surprised you didn't play the rest of the footage, because a good six minutes on twitter and i know why you won't play twitter and i know why you won't play it. so anyone wants to go and look, they can find it because we haven't got the time. >> is there a particular bit of that footage that you want to just tell us all about now? because you're more than welcome to know. >> well, it's the fact, our hate reaches into the country preaching the killing of homosexuals and god knows what else that goes on. and then you turn up on my door because i spoke to the priest in
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confidence. yeah. and it wasn't the priest. the police said that it was someone's overheard the conversation , so i don't know conversation, so i don't know what to believe. >> well, so conceivable. he's taking it at face value, which might be a bit tricky. i suppose you say that someone's overheard the conversation that they've decided to take. i mean, you make a good point, which is that we can hear every single week. i play we can hear every single week. i play quite regularly on this show, clips of certain things that maybe go on in certain mosques for example, or certain things that you hear at speakers corner , which i would argue are, corner, which i would argue are, well, i mean , borderline well, i mean, borderline illegal, actually, you don't really see the police turning up there, do you? so why do you think that they knocked on your door ? door? >> it's easier to be biased against christians than it is any other religion. we all know this . i any other religion. we all know this. i don't need to say it live on air. you yourself know everyone in the country knows it's okay to persecute christians , disrespect christians, disrespect christianity, aren't disrespect other religion. but stop . it's
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other religion. but stop. it's getting silly. now. >> when you said things like taking a stand like you said there, you know you're not calling for violence. you're not calling for violence. you're not calling for violence. you're not calling for any kind of, yeah, violent action, i suppose. and you made that . you made that you made that. you made that clear to the police. from what i gather, from what i've seen in the clip, how have they left it with you, then? i mean, are you on some kind of watch list now? >> no. well i've got 22 minutes. a journalist came from another newspaper. it's online. i'm not sure. i think it might have been the mail. they see the full 22 minutes and even they didn't write it up in a newspaper for me. the police specifically said there was no violence in it. you can even see him saying that on the twitter videos as well. i had to post it. i had no choice to. who would believe you ? god's to. who would believe you? god's honest truth? who would believe you?i honest truth? who would believe you? i went to see my priest the other day, had a conversation about faith, and the next thing you know, i've got police and mental health nurses telling me that he would believe it if it wasn't filmed . wasn't filmed. >> yeah, well that's true. yeah i mean, just just understand. what do you think it says about
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britain, though? seriously? i mean, we've got we've got huge amounts of problems going on. i think i did a report yesterday. got crimes like shoplifting at an all time high, for goodness sake. you've got all of this stuff, you know, and you know, here we are in a christian country. you're having a conversation with the priest and the police and the mental health workers at your door. i mean, it's bonkers really, isn't it ? it's bonkers really, isn't it? >> i don't think it was a priest. i reckon it is what they said. but the only person that i gave my name to was priest. the police officers were fine, to be fair , they were quite nice. they fair, they were quite nice. they didn't hardly do any of the talking. it was the nurse that done most of the talking, and it's coercive behaviour. if you listen to the footage, it's passive aggressive questioning , passive aggressive questioning, trying to coerce the situation. i've had no repercussions from the police or anything like that. i've made the complaint to the complete the fleet. i'm trying to complain to a group called pals are saying to the patient and liaison, but i'm not getting nowhere with that. i had no choice but to put this out there. i've been a nervous wreck today. look, i've gone pale as a ghost. now i feel sick doing this. >> that's an important. it's an
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important thing. so it's cut across. but i think that's a really important point to get across actually, because this affects people . right? i mean, affects people. right? i mean, this affects when police knock on your door and a mental health worker turns up and all of that stuff, it does have an impact on you, right? you'd have to be a, you, right? you'd have to be a, you know, really unhinged if that didn't affect you in some way , shape or form. you way, shape or form. you mentioned there that you think is quite coercive behaviour. i'm inclined to agree with that, you know, and i do feel for you, i do, i do hope that i do hope that you're all right. i mean, are you still quite worked up about it all or are you getting overit about it all or are you getting over it now? >> well , it over it now? >> well, it depends now. it all depends on what? whoever sees this. >> because this is going to be broadcast to millions. again. it's been seen millions of times already. but i don't know, it's like the quiet before the storm, if you know what i mean. i know i've put my head above the parapet and i'm expecting arrows to come my way because this this is going to offend a lot of people that are in charge in this country .
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people that are in charge in this country. right. >> well, let's well, let's have it right. >> i haven't been so i don't want to interrupt you. i really don't want to sound abrupt, but i've been contacted by none of the proper mainstream media, the bbc, the sky news. and if i know if this has been seen, millions and they're talking about it in america, let's put out a statement on twitter, because they're confusing it, saying, i posted on social media, i didn't . so there's already people that are using it for their own agendas i get that. so this is more to just clear up the point. this is about christian. yeah i'm getting messages from guys in lebanon. so well look look look john joe i, i wish i wish we could i'm fast approaching the end of the hour right. >> i would love to continue to talk to you more, but what i will say is you are, i think, echoing the views of, of a lot of people, which is that you see, christians persecuted all over the world and there doesn't appear to be too much front footedness from a lot of christian figures about this isn't just about the christians though, man, this is happening . though, man, this is happening. >> this is the english working class are getting it as well. this needs to be spoken about.
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it's not fair. all right, have a nice night. >> john. joe, sorry to cut you off, but thank you very much. he's gone anyway. john. joe hoopen he's gone anyway. john. joe hooper, that right? look a sussex police spokesman says sussex police spokesman says sussex police spokesman says sussex police were made aware of concerns , and i'll read the full concerns, and i'll read the full extent of their reply when i come back. look, you stay tuned. all right . all right. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello again. good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. it's going to be another cold night tonight, and rain will spread into the south and east through this weekend , and east through this weekend, with the best of the dry weather around the north and west once again, much as it has been throughout this week. but to the south we've got low pressure arriving and some weather fronts through this evening, so some heavy rain for many southern counties of england through this evening, as well as southern areas of wales by tomorrow morning , there's going to be a morning, there's going to be a lot of cloud around. it will be a milder night across the south, however, in the north, with cloud clearing and turning much dner, cloud clearing and turning much drier , it's going to be another drier, it's going to be another cold start on saturday morning.
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gb news. >> it's 10 pm. on patrick christys tonight. >> we need. and benefit greatly from those who extend the hand of friendship to us. especially in a time of need. >> all the anti—monarchists are finally going to give it a rest and know i fully intend to not
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just win that vote. >> but i intend to fight to make sure that the government stays, not just the government continues to deliver on the priorities of the people. >> useless , useless. p45 is in >> useless, useless. p45 is in the post with my experience, i think rwanda is safer than than london. >> i feel safe walking around in kigali. i expose the real reason that rwanda is actually a deterrent . deterrent. >> the irish people keep saying no to illegal immigrants. >> the irish people keep saying no to illegal immigrants . on my no to illegal immigrants. on my panel this evening i am joined by ex bbc and itv political chief john sergeant, apprentice finalist and entrepreneurjoana finalist and entrepreneur joana jaflue finalist and entrepreneur joana jarjue jew and journalist alex armstrong. oh yes, and can you work out what is going on . here? work out what is going on. here? get ready britain, here we go.
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the king's on the mend. humza yousafs gone round the bend. next . next. >> here are the headlines from the gb newsroom. i'm tamsin roberts as the prime minister has welcomed the news. king charles is returning to public facing duties following the positive effect of his cancer treatment. a palace spokesperson says king charles is greatly encouraged to be resuming some pubuc encouraged to be resuming some public facing duties and very grateful to his medical team. he's been receiving outpatient care since february for an undisclosed form of cancer. rishi sunak posted on x that it was brilliant news to end the week. these well—wishers outside buckingham palace agree. >> yeah, it's great news. it was sad to hear about the cancer diagnosis and what with him and catherine coming at the same time , so it's great that he's on time, so it's great that he's on the mend .
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the mend. >> we'll be happy to be out and about and everyone you know, seeing that he's in good in good health. >> it's good news for him, i suppose. and it's quite favourable news for the nation, isuppose. i suppose. >> the families of three men murdered in the reading terror attack are calling for urgent change. after a coroner ruled their deaths were probably avoidable . friends james avoidable. friends james furlong, doctor david wales and joseph richard bennett were fatally stabbed in june 2020 when libyan refugee kyrees saadallah targeted them in a town centre park . the coroner town centre park. the coroner said failings by the home office and the local nhs community mental health team contributed to their deaths. james furlong's father, gary, said he has very little confidence that an attack like this will not happen again . like this will not happen again. humza yousaf says he will not resign as scotland's first minister, ahead of a crucial test of his leadership next week . he says that as a minority
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government, his party will need to make some concessions as it negotiates with other parties . negotiates with other parties. it's after the collapse of the snp's power sharing deal with the greens yesterday, but humza yousaf says he'll fight on. >> i fully intend to not just win that vote, but i intend to fight to make sure that the government stays, not just the government stays, not just the government continues to deliver on the priorities of the people, like for example, investing in affordable housing. so there's all that political game playing happening from the opposition. it will not be taking part. it will be getting, of course, on with the job. and when the vote comes, i fully intend to win. >> the foreign office has summoned the russian ambassador after a british man was allegedly recruited as a russian spy. 20 year old dylan earl has been charged with conducting hostile activity in the uk to benefit russia. he's accused of masterminding an arson plot on london businesses. four other men were also charged in connection with the same investigation . well, those are investigation. well, those are the headlines. and for all the
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latest , do sign the headlines. and for all the latest, do sign up to gb news alerts. just scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now it's over to . patrick. to. patrick. >> well long live the king. i'll be honest, i had a message at around 7:30 am. tipping me off that we were going to get some news about the king, and i feared the worst. i actually thought there was a good chance that we were going to be doing a very different show this evening, but no good news. the statement came from the palace that king charles is well enough to resume public duties, but when you get an embargoed press release from the palace, they do often put a question and answer section at the bottom. and this is one that stood out for me. okay, so it said, does today's announcement mean his majesty's treatment for cancer has been successful or has finished? and the answer is this his majesty's treatment program will continue, but doctors are sufficiently pleased with the progress made so far that the king is now able
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to resume a number of public facing duties . there was another facing duties. there was another one. how much longer will his majesty's treatment continue? the answer was this. it's too early to say, but his majesty's medical team are very encouraged by the progress made so far, and remain positive about the king's continued recovery . so this is continued recovery. so this is a man who is living with cancer. he's not recovered. he may well not be recovered for some time . not be recovered for some time. and he's not out of the woods yet. look, here's the thing . the yet. look, here's the thing. the king has advertised now that he will be doing public engagements, and he's going to be going to a cancer treatment centre , for example. there'll be centre, for example. there'll be several public engagements in the coming weeks as well. and this got me thinking, really, because in recent times the anti—monarchists have been out in force, haven't they ? they've in force, haven't they? they've been trying to ruin the coronation. they're throwing eggs at royals in the wake of the queen's death. he shouted down with the crown at queen camilla as she attended a church service, knowing that her husband was being treated for cancer and so was princess katherine . now i know what the
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katherine. now i know what the not my king brigade will have taken from today's news. oh good, the king will be in public again. we can have another pop at him if they do that. i think they're disgusting. my message to them , not my king brigade, is to them, not my king brigade, is this. if you do that, you're going to be the scumbag shouting at an elderly man with cancer. okay you're the bad guys here, not him. get a life , get a job, not him. get a life, get a job, and wind your necks in, at least for a few months. a and i'm going to be talking now for a bit more on the king's health from professor lawrence young, professor of molecular oncology. look, thank you very, very much. from a health perspective, what do you make of today's announcement? well it suggests the king is making good progress. >> he must be feeling well enough to engage in more public facing duties. so it's a very positive development. >> how protected is he going to have to be the talk of him being in a covid style bubble if he goes to events like ascot? >> well , a lot of it goes to events like ascot? >> well, a lot of it depends on where he is in his therapy and what type of therapy he's
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receiving. so we it's difficult to speculate, but clearly if he's going to go out and about over the next few days and weeks, the medical team must be happy that he can mix with people. he'll just have to be careful . he'll be undergoing careful. he'll be undergoing regular blood tests and scans to make sure things are all okay, and they must be developing in the right direction . ian. but the right direction. ian. but this encouraging news today. but we'll just have to be careful . i we'll just have to be careful. i suspect most of it will be around him not overdoing it because he's likely to feel very, very tired. and even though he wants to get out and about and get back to business, i think his medical team will have to have to keep a close eye on him. >> yeah, i mean, this is , i >> yeah, i mean, this is, i suppose, one of the big things of it, isn't it, that he now is actually trying to push the envelope and get out there and go out and about? it seems very reassuring for us to hear from somebody like yourself that actually this is possibly not a case of, you know, the idea that the treatment is going to continue to have a worse impact on him. it is just more his own fatigue as a result of that treatment, which i suppose means that we're heading in the right direction with the king. >> yeah. and this is really important psychologically. i think anybody with any, any condition, but particularly with cancen condition, but particularly with cancer, if you're feeling well
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enough to start to get back to some degree of normality , vie it some degree of normality, vie it has a very important positive psychological impact and it does really help you get better. so it is a sort of positive reinforcing thing and it demonstrates to all of us who, you know, who, who have or know people who have cancer, that you can start to get back to some degree of normal, normal, normal life. and as i say, that helps in your recovery . in your recovery. >> and there were a couple of words that were omitted from this press release today. i can completely understand why they would be okay. well, it's like always in remission, for example. or obviously he's cured , which he's not. yet he is living with cancer , but that is living with cancer, but that is actually very doable nowadays , actually very doable nowadays, isn't it? >> yeah, it's common now. and you know, the cancer like the big c that is, is the end of your existence is things have changed our whole attitude to cancer has changed because we cancer has changed because we can manage it better. and even though in some people we can't cure it, we can keep it at bay. and so for some people, if they
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if they, if they can deal with it psychologically and they can live with cancer in the same way that people live with other chronic diseases that need ongoing treatment, like diabetes or arthritis. and so for some people, that is , you know, they people, that is, you know, they can live quite healthy lives, you know, into their 70s, 80s, 90s and live with cancer rather than die of cancer. >> this is massively more reassuring news than what a lot of people were fearing. when people first got wind that there was going to be some kind of announcement about the king today, professor lawrence young there, great to have you on the show. thank you very, very much. as professor lawrence young, who is a professor of molecular oncology , let's just get a final oncology, let's just get a final word on this tonight before i move on to some of the evening's other news with my panel. and this is from ingrid seward, who's the editor in chief of majesty magazine. ingrid. thank you very, very much. today is a good day for the king, a good day for britain. i'm sure you'll be hoping that those not my king, morons decide to give it a rest for a little while. because
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he is still dealing with an illness, isn't he ? illness, isn't he? >> he's still dealing with an illness, and he appears to be deaung illness, and he appears to be dealing extremely well. i think he he comes from the fact that he's extremely, strong and fit. i think i understand that that will help his treatment enormously. and i think as your professor was saying, it's the fatigue that can be a brutal thing when you're trying to lead a normal life with cancer. but i think that , it's going to really think that, it's going to really help him psychologically to get out there and people are going to be giving him, enormous support. i mean, i know , as you support. i mean, i know, as you say, there's an anti—monarchy brigade, but there's been an anti—model monarchy brigade since there's been a monarchy. so that is not such a big deal. it has always been there. i feel that, charles is going to get a lot of support from from the sort of joyous ness of people seeing him and, you know, wishing him well. and i think
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that that that's going to be immensely important to him. >> yeah, massively important to the royal family at the moment. to have a little bit of good news out there, isn't there as well, given everything that's been going on, this presumably will be a big boost for william and kate as well. >> absolutely . i mean, it's >> absolutely. i mean, it's a difficult time. it's a very busy time . but, i think a boost for time. but, i think a boost for william and kate, william's out and about. we don't know about kate, but i feel that that the king will definitely. it's a very busy time coming up with the anniversary of d—day and normandy, which i know he will be desperate to be a part of. then there's then there's the big royal season, the trooping the colour, the garter ceremony, royal ascot, and then he he is hosting the emperor and empress of japan at the end of june . so of japan at the end of june. so it's an absolutely packed month for someone that is presumably going to get very tired . going to get very tired. >> yes, indeed. i mean, if he gets through all of that, i think that will be absolutely massive, won't it? it's also , i
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massive, won't it? it's also, i believe as well his and camilla's is it 19 year wedding anniversary i think. is that is that right ? so he's got all that that right? so he's got all that to, to get through as well? i mean, she's actually been remarkable throughout all of this as well, hasn't she. so, you know, i think yeah. go on. >> i think camilla's been remarkable throughout the whole of their marriage. she's been a massive support to him. and i think that, you know , ever since think that, you know, ever since he first went into hospital and she's, you know, she kept going to visit him, something we're not really used to the royal family doing . and i think she's family doing. and i think she's probably the one that's holding him back to say , you know, him back to say, you know, charles, don't be silly. you know, you're not well, you can't do all these things. but he has been going to church every weekend, so he has been visible. he's not been actually hiding away, and i think that that he very much relies on her support in every aspect of his life. >> ingrid, look, thank you very, very much. pleasure to have you on at the top of the hour this
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evening. all the best. okay that's his ingrid seward tuc, editor in chief of majesty magazine. right okay, look, there's some other news in town today. onto another big story, which is mr humza yousaf. yes, that's right. and let's see what my panel make of that. i'm going to nip over there. now we've got bbc and itv political chief john sergeant, we've got apprentice finalist and entrepreneurjoana finalist and entrepreneur joana jarjue. and of course we also have journalist and broadcaster alex armstrong. right, john, i'll start with you. i hope you don't mind me saying you've been around the block a bit politically. it's something you should have finished. >> no he's not. no, i think that my guess would be it's only a guess, and in one week's time, he will still be first minister. now come on, let me tell you the argument. if you look at the scottish parliament, a majority are in favour of independence, right ? that's about the only right? that's about the only thing they can agree on. that's what they want . he has got what they want. he has got a very small majority that he's got to beat. he's got to get the greens back on board. if he can, or he's got to at least get ash regan , who is the alba msp who
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regan, who is the alba msp who is obviously she's in favour of independence now . he is independence now. he is desperate, right? i'm not saying he has any position of strength. he's a desperate man. what will he do ? he'll get he'll make he do? he'll get he'll make desperate concessions because as on any other, in any other analysis of it. on any other, in any other analysis of it . yeah. who analysis of it. yeah. who benefits? by humza yousaf going . benefits? by humza yousaf going. well of course the people who benefit are the people like me who were dead against scottish independence. >> if he's willing to make any concession there, which right he's going to have to, then there was absolutely no point in doing what he's just done with the greens. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> no, i mean, he's obviously shooting himself in the foot left, right and centre. it's like that scooter footage where he sort of rolling, rolling and just falls off of it. what i mean, look, i would love to see humza yousaf go. i cannot stand him. but but he is political gold to the labour party and to the unionists. so i actually wonder why they've called this vote of no confidence. i'm glad that they're showing him for what he is, but he is gold. he will. he will lose a landslide to unionist parties and i don't mind whether it's labour, tories or liberal democrats who take over as as long as the unionist
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does. >> i don't think i've ever seen anyone fail upwards quite like humza yousaf. >> he was rishi sunak. he was well , rishi >> he was rishi sunak. he was well, rishi sunak actually actually, to his credit was a was successful in business before, wasn't he? >> humza yousaf has basically done now for when he was justice minister. crime went up and he got done for driving without the correct insurance. health minister he had to actually import a new position in his cabinet for the minister for nhs recovery when he became first minister, which doesn't say that he's done particularly well as as health minister and he's not actually done anything good, has he? and yet here he is, first minister. >> well, i think that obviously , >> well, i think that obviously, humza yousaf was put in this position because he was the continuity candidate after nicola sturgeon. and if you look at how much success the snp have had for so long in scotland, they were basically desperate to get nicola sturgeon 2.0 and they haven't been able to get that . haven't been able to get that. and i think that nicola sturgeon had her own specific usp in the sense of her charisma, and it kind of mirrors really what we've seen in the uk, with boris johnson starting the whole thing with rwanda , and then rishi with rwanda, and then rishi sunak has inherited it, not being able to make it land . and
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being able to make it land. and then you've got all the progressive policies with the snp that weren't landing. and then, humza yousaf hasn't been able to carry that on. >> this is a really interesting point because there's a lot of ultra progressive policy, well, progressive policies in scotland. they're great and it turns out they're just deeply unpopular. >> no quite so. but the green, the two green ministers have been amazingly powerful within the scottish government. and you think, well, hold on a moment. they're going to go from that position of power to zero. if it goes wrong. i mean, if you just think of it in terms of, okay, so the first minister goes, then what happens is the greens, who helped get rid of him. that's the whole point . where do they the whole point. where do they go? nothing very exciting. where does ash regan go? who is thrilled to bits to be negotiating for the first time? there she is with the first minister, asking for all sorts of deals to be made. he's only got to pick up a few of those, and with the greens, their position is not so powerful
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outside government. he can make a deal with him. i would have thought . now you a deal with him. i would have thought. now you may a deal with him. i would have thought . now you may say a deal with him. i would have thought. now you may say he's such a useless politician that he and that he's not going to be able to achieve that. all right. but look out from a distance from people like me who would love to see him fail, right? i'm a unionist. i don't want scotland to be independent. that's it. so for people like me, anything which would make that less likely is good. so i'm not i'm not arguing in terms of my own interest, but from their point of view, from the people who they have a majority for independence in the scottish parliament, you know, they must be happy for them to give that up just because they want to round, they want to do other things to happen anyway, don't they? >>i they? >> i mean, they might have a majority for it in scottish parliament. they're not getting a referendum anytime. >> and also, you know, he is deeply unpopular. he's got a —15% net popularity rating in favorability rating in scotland. so scottish people don't like him. they're not happy with these policies. so, you know, these policies. so, you know, the snp must also be asking themselves a bit like the tory party have been with rishi sunak . should we keep this guy
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because he's deeply unpopular and he's going to he's going to make us all lose. >> but they're not they're not going to succeed. they're not going to succeed. they're not going to succeed without him for the moment, for the moment. >> but this is the issue when you have a political party that's so focused on a single issue, like independence and like when we had the brexit party and things like that, once you get to a point where it's about to fail and the supreme court have said that they can't have a second referendum, then where do you go from that? then you put kate forbes being quite weak. >> i think kate forbes would would , would, would, would wipe would, would, would, would wipe the floor with, with all the other parties. >> she doesn't want gay marriage ehhen >> so it's like you have the progressive that. no, she actually no, she didn't she didn't say she would vote against it. >> yeah. but yeah but but there wasn't but there wasn't going to be a vote on it. and she was she was not going to say that everybody else had to vote against it either. i mean, the irony is that humza yousaf initially missed a vote on gay marriage because he said he had a commitment that he couldn't miss. and then alex salmond said, actually he came said, well, actually he came under religious, under very strong religious, though acts if, you know though she acts as if, you know her religion, her religion doesn't, you know, influence her decisions, but it does. >> so it's kind of if we don't go with the progressive peoples, people don't realise that go even further back with scottish nationalists are actually quite conservative people, believe it or not. >> i lived up there. i worked
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alongside a lot of them. they are actually quite deeply, naturally conservative with a small c, but my goodness, they can argue. >> and the idea that the scottish john, i mean, the idea that it would all be lovely. >> okay. all right, all right. >> okay. all right, all right. >> now look , look, look, coming >> now look, look, look, coming up, coming up at 1030. we are going to have the very first look at tomorrow's front pages. but next. okay. this is interesting. so rwandan businesswoman coco danchuk told me earlier today that the real reason rwanda can act as a deterrent is, well, you gonna have to tune in to find out. stay tuned.
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all right. welcome back. so the uk government's rwanda bill finally passed. apparently clearing the way for asylum seekers to be sent to the african country for processing. now, it seems the bill is already acting as somewhat of a deterrent, because here is what a couple of channel migrants had to say about it earlier this week. >> hello . >> hello. >> hello. >> i'm very stressed, he tells me. >> i don't know what to do . all >> i don't know what to do. all i can think about is this letter and rwanda . and rwanda. >> rwanda is not a safe place . >> rwanda is not a safe place. >> rwanda is not a safe place. >> does it make you regret coming to the uk? >> yeah, if you know, before i came here, you say that you know the sentiment in rwanda. i never come here. >> well, job done then, i suppose in that sense. but concerns have been raised about whether rwanda is a safe country to some people, to. i got an
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insight on that earlier today. so i spoke with coco danchuk, who runs a business in rwanda, and her husband, of course, the former mp simon danczuk. now listen closely to this because it's fascinating to hear about the country , but it also reveals the country, but it also reveals what the actual real deterrent is for people being sent to rwanda. so here we go . well, rwanda. so here we go. well, thank you very much, both of you, for joining thank you very much, both of you, forjoining us here in our westminster studio today. it's great to see you both again. i would just like to start by asking you if that's okay. you said that rwanda is safer than parts of the uk. said that rwanda is safer than parts of the uk . what do you parts of the uk. what do you mean by that? how is it safer? yes >> but with my experience, i think rwanda is safer than than london. i feel safe walking around in kigali, london. i feel safe walking around in kigali , walking around around in kigali, walking around in rwanda because it's very safe country and they take zero tolerance on crime . and you can tolerance on crime. and you can play tolerance on crime. and you can play stupid in rwanda. you get arrested immediately. so yeah. so my view. yeah. so, so you think anyone, anyone who commits
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a crime in rwanda is locked up straight away? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> they take zero tolerance in rwanda on crime. you can't play stupid. yeah, you have to follow the rules. you have to, you know, to be, like to go to do what they want to do. like if they set this certain rules, you have to follow them. that's what we do as citizens. so you can't play we do as citizens. so you can't play stupid. yeah. >> it's maybe a bit more law and order in rwanda certainly, than london. simon, there are reports that you're considering if you do decide to start a family in future, that you might move to rwanda or certainly spend a bit of time in rwanda, i suppose that implies that for you, it might be a better place to raise kids. maybe. >> oh yeah . no, there's no doubt >> oh yeah. no, there's no doubt about it. we already spend quite about it. we already spend quite a bit of time there as a business, in rwanda, that she manages remotely , and we'll manages remotely, and we'll continue to spend more time there and as you've pointed out, we ought to have a family and there'd be we'd be pleased to bnng there'd be we'd be pleased to bring the children up there, no doubt about that. with a family around us, it's a very safe place . i've two children from place. i've two children from a
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previous marriage. they've both been to rwanda. they've been around the country and enjoyed it , the older one has been on a it, the older one has been on a couple of occasions, so. yeah. no, it's very safe and it is somewhere you would want to bnng somewhere you would want to bring up children. i mean, it's interesting because certainly around a lot of major cities in the uk now, i know a huge amount of parents are very worried about when they send their children to school. >> by no means can everyone afford private school. in fact, most people can't afford private school. and you look at the state school system and sometimes you think, well, i wouldn't necessarily want to , wouldn't necessarily want to, you know, send my child there, but what kind of life , coco, do but what kind of life, coco, do you think that asylum seekers would actually have in rwanda ? would actually have in rwanda? >> i think they they will have a good life in rwanda , but they good life in rwanda, but they will have to work at it. so and especially for those who they can't go back where they came from , i think it's good for them from, i think it's good for them to live in that better life in rwanda. >> so yeah, you said they would have to work at it a bit. they have to work at it a bit. they have to work at it a bit. they have to work at it. >> it's not like here they they will live on the benefits. so they will have to work for for, it. so and then get, you know,
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money. too late for living . money. too late for living. yeah. but do you think they'll be safe presumably . be safe presumably. >> definitely. rwanda is very safe country and then like if they came from the dangerous country. so they will live in a better life in safe country, in beautiful country. yeah. >> and i suppose there's potentially a bit more of a social contract there between the asylum seekers. simon in rwanda you would have here, the idea is coco is saying that, you know, they can be safe, but they're going to have to get on with their life and not languish on benefits. >> yeah. and that's where the deterrent is, i think, because, you know, i'm a former mp and i've met many asylum seekers in rochdale when i, when i represented the town, they would present themselves at my surgery. and there's no doubt about it that some, illegal immigrants are coming here because of the welfare state, because of the welfare state, because it's easier. some are even coming here to commit crimes. now, if some of those people are saying this is where the deterrent comes in, if you get sent to rwanda, you don't have a strong welfare state. as corcos pointed out, you're going
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to have to work, you know, and that will be a deterrent to some people. and if you try and commit crimes in rwanda , they'll commit crimes in rwanda, they'll come down on you like a ton of bricks, and that will be a deterrent to some of the illegal immigrants coming into this country. so i think it will put people off coming in the small boats, no doubt about it. >> and so really the deterrent there is not just that it's very far away , it's the fact that you far away, it's the fact that you are actually going to have to work hard, abide by laws. you're not going to get an easy ride , not going to get an easy ride, but you can have everything that life has to offer you. if you do go there. i mean, how how do you feel when you hear people in this country saying , oh, rwanda this country saying, oh, rwanda is not a safe country. >> it bothers me , seriously, >> it bothers me, seriously, because i feel so bad about it, because i feel so bad about it, because some people , they say because some people, they say that and those people, they have never even been in the country. rwanda is beautiful home. it's beautiful country. it's very safe. it's well run. i mean, there's nothing, you know, to worry about it. but this beautiful home and it's beautiful home and it's beautiful countries, very safe . beautiful countries, very safe. >> and the rwanda is to be fair, the government have bent over
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backwards for us. they probably can't believe that we've not actually got any planes off the ground yet . yeah. no, absolutely. >> i think the rwandan government's been very helpful in many respects. and they do this already for the united nations. that's the irony of it. there are there are asylum seekers, in, libya that are sent to rwanda and looked after very well and dealt with. so while we can't do it from this country is just an absolute nonsense. >> no, absolutely. and no, i mean, it's obviously something that is, you know , is going to that is, you know, is going to be a massive, massive issue at the next election and just just one final one with you, coco, if i may. we're expecting planes to maybe take off at the end a bit later on this year. aren't we really? it would you would you be happy, do you think, to see to see people sent to rwanda? yeah, definitely. >> i think i think it's a great idea for both sides or first of all, it will put them off coming here in the second place. for those people who came in, who
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coming from the dangerous country, so they will have they will live a better life. i think it's very good. and i'll be happy. it's very good. and i'll be happy i it's very good. and i'll be happy. i will be pleased to see them in a beautiful home. yeah. which i come from. yeah. lovely. >> okay. well, look. thank you very, very much, both of you. it's an absolute pleasure to have you both back on my show as well. and, look, we'll have to stay in touch on this because you know, this has been a massive issue at the election. massive issue politically , as massive issue politically, as well. so yeah. thank you very much. both of you. great stuff . much. both of you. great stuff. thank you. yeah, yeah. look, thank you very much to coco and simon there. i thought that was the real crux of it, wasn't it? what is the major deterrent going to be for sending people to rwanda? okay. it's not going to rwanda? okay. it's not going to be that it's far away. it's the fact that when they are there, they cannot languish on benefits on a welfare state. they're going to have to crack on.and they're going to have to crack on. and let's be honest, that's the main reason they're coming here, isn't it? travelling through a load of safe european countries to get to us. why? because they get the easiest ride. look, coming up, the irish people keep saying no to illegal migrants. just have a look at
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this . but migrants. just have a look at this. but next, some huge stories around today. myself and my wonderful panel. we'll be showing you absolutely everything that the front pages have to offer us in a
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welcome back to patrick christys tonight. and it's time to bring you a first look at tomorrow's front pages . here we go. we front pages. here we go. we start with the times king returns to public life. that picture now of the king and queen camilla. doctors encouraged by his response to treatment . there is a theme treatment. there is a theme here, everybody. but we're going to try and liven it up. so the daily mail . yeah, there we go. daily mail. yeah, there we go. smiles that say the king is going back to work. all right at the sun. any guesses? yeah king is back in the saddle. good. he's on the mend. is set to return . d—day is in the diary. return. d—day is in the diary. so is ascot, we'll go to the telegraph. and that's the king again . there we go. the return
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again. there we go. the return of the king. public duties will resume on tuesday after doctors say they are pleased with his progress. camilla tominey. our very own here has got a little article at the bottom. it's more than a little article. it's a page lead. but the queen has been a rock for the king during his toughest test, as far as i'm aware, she will be on your screens this sunday as ever, lighting them up. so tune in for that, let's go to the daily express now. karen king joins cancer crusade. compassionate king charles is vowing to support fellow cancer sufferers. yep, i think that could be obviously a huge element to this, couldn't it as well? well, the daily star have done something completely different. curse of king tut's tomb cracked it may. egyptologists pinned the blame on nuclear leaks. the mysterious curse of the pharaohs, they say, which has claimed numerous lives, has finally been solved after mummy boffins pointed the finger of blame at leaking radiation . blame at leaking radiation. thank you very much to the daily star for putting a little bit of chlorine in that swimming pool there. right. so look, we're just going to i'm going to ask a
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question now, just about all of them. is it right, do you think, john, that the king's all over the front pages? >> i do, i can see that they they all do the same research. they know the extent to which people find a lot of the modern world very confusing and difficult to understand. here is a story, yes . a lot of people a story, yes. a lot of people sort of relax when they see a royal story because they think, oh, we know who the king is, we know who the queen is. we know about this. we know about the cancer thing. and it's and it's such an easy thing then for editors to think, well, now, come on now. we can't stop this. this is what people want. give it to them. >> joanna, what do you make of it? you know, should it be an automatic front page story when we all get a press release saying the king is all right? i mean , i just don't see why understand. >> obviously, if it's a big story and it's the diagnosis, obviously with kate, she was all over all the front pages here and globally. fine but to kind of say that he's going back to pubuc of say that he's going back to public life, we've seen him a bit anyway. he obviously went to the easter service. but one thing that i actually found a
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bit weird, that i think that people who are anti—monarchists will find weird, is that obviously they were talking about he's going to sit separately and then obviously that echoes when the queen was sitting separately during covid and everybody felt sorry for her. but then there were pictures of him then shaking hands with people in the public outside afterwards, which i found a bit odd. i think the most interesting thing for me, and i do wish them well, both him and princess catherine. but the most interesting thing about these stories to me is the whole pr element, and how the two houses between the king and queen and the prince and princess of wales have actually navigated through this. the king obviously has come out shining more apart from that little blip that just confused me. why are you shaking hands with people if you shaking hands with people if you sat by yourself, but obviously he's encouraging people, when it comes to the cancer sufferers and things like that. so he's come off. >> that is interesting. a marked difference, actually , in the difference, actually, in the navigation of the choppy waters that are pr between, between the king and the and the prince. >> well, obviously the king's
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got the best pr in the land, hasn't he. and so he should, you know, so the royal family should put the king first. he is the head of the household. at the end of the day, i'm sure william and kate have probably refreshed their team and kate have probably refreshed theirteam a and kate have probably refreshed their team a little bit since some of those , mistakes from, some of those, mistakes from, from before. but, you know, this is a good story. i think people love reading about the royals. i think people love the royal family and therefore they are always going to be on the front pages. i don't think that's ever going to change while i'm alive, i suspect, i do have to say the daily star. what has really got me though about the mummy boffins. i really love to know more about these mummy boffins. >> i don't want to know any more nuclear radiation leaking out of their tombs. >> i mean, theirtombs. >> i mean, what's their tombs. >> i mean, what's been going on there? >> i don't want to hear any more about it at all. >> could you just say the words mummy boffins to me? mummy boffin. >> lovely. very good. >> lovely. very good. >> i'll tell you what, though. no, i think what is interesting is that i think what they felt with kate's broadcast, they were worried about whether or not. yeah, how it would work. what would be the response. so do you remember at the time saying, oh, well, the royal family are in trouble now, aren't they? and i think that i think the response the public response and of course the media response, yeah, they were thrilled by it. i
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think it really sort of almost took them aback because they were thinking, this is awful. we've got to keep going . we've we've got to keep going. we've got to reduce monarchy and so on. instead, the public clearly thought, this is it, get behind them. yeah. and i think that the temptation then to say, right, so you think cancer bad. no. cancer can be very useful way of communicating with the public. and this is what they're saying . and this is what they're saying. >> and it's really good that they are communicating when we get. because before the criticism was we're not hearing enough. we can't then criticise them. but well, they are. but they're saying, look, he's going back to duty. so if he had started doing it and hadn't communicated the criticism well, why don't you tell us what we can see it. >> all right, all right. >> all right, all right. >> now look, something that certainly took quite a few people about you might have missed this, actually, but we're going to have a little look at this video. now, i'll show this to you. so this is what happened when mp and gb news presenter star jacob rees—mogg gave some starjacob rees—mogg gave some of his time up to go and talk to students in cardiff.
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okay, so jacob rees—mogg is somewhere in the middle of that melee. he's being surrounded by police and security officers. you've got the pro—palestine bngade you've got the pro—palestine brigade there and some of the people waving what appeared to be, you know, kind of union flags , so that was jacob in the flags, so that was jacob in the middle of all of that, getting shouted and accosted. alex. is thatis shouted and accosted. alex. is that is that free speech or is that, you know, intimidation of , that, you know, intimidation of, jacob rees—mogg? >> yeah, it's totally intimidating and aggressive , intimidating and aggressive, isn't it? and there's nothing about it that's going to achieve anything other than perhaps make jacob rees—mogg even more determined to, to not support their cause . they these people their cause. they these people do damage like this all the time. we were talking about other organisations that do this that have ruined causes like the green movement, which are some very sensible arguments, but has been destroyed by things like insulate britain gluing themselves to roads. well, insulate prison. well, insulate prison. >> that's right. yeah. >> that's right. yeah.
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>> i think we know a bit of we would need to know a bit more context because these people have demonstrating with their flags and things. do they expect rees—mogg to arrive? and if he suddenly does arrive, do you expect them to suddenly sort of stand still and clap him or, well, say how wonderful. i mean, yeah , he's done his his talks, yeah, he's done his his talks, he does the university tours and it's not the first time, by the way. >> i mean, jacob rees—mogg has been hounded and numerous. >> oh no. sure, sure. >>— >> oh no. sure, sure. >> i will just say he usually deals with it incredibly well. i think there's i just wonder i just wonder if in this in this day and age now, if there's a bit more of an increase threat as well. like i just feels to me as well. like i just feels to me as though things have got more intimidating. maybe if there are more people who might be it only takes one nutter there with a knife, doesn't it? i'll just say it. you know what i mean? yeah >> no, i can understand exactly. especially if you're a public figure and a politician. they are at increased risk. i will say that . it's not like it just say that. it's not like it just kind of goes to one side of politics, you know , angela politics, you know, angela rayner was getting it when she was doing a speech. somebody kind of shouting things at her.
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and it is just such a high emotive topic. and i do think it's a shame when somebody , you it's a shame when somebody, you know, goes too far as to actually, potentially intimidate actually, potentially intimidate a politician. so they do ruin it for the, for the, for the higher cost. but then also they're thinking, well, me banging on jacob rees—mogg's car and protesting against people dying in gaza. so that's how they kind of see, you know, if this was a female , make it okay. female, make it okay. >> by the way, you know, if this was a female mp, people would be saying, well, this is this is harassment. you shouldn't you shouldn't treat women like this. i think we've also got to bear in mind that it's been two mps that have been murdered in the last few years by, by extremists. and we've seen how these protesters behaved in some recent missiles at each other, attacking the police. it does take one person to do the wrong thing. >> it does. and i just i just remember as a student, if you show me those pictures, i just said, oh, it's quite routine. >> what were they up to? where were they? i wouldn't have thought, this is amazing . you thought, this is amazing. you know, it's a complete change of attitude. we're talking about years ago. there's always been
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demonstrations. >> that's a very, very good point because i almost feel as if when it is about climate change or palestine , they make change or palestine, they make it into a bigger thing, as if they're the only type of group that do it when it's more kind of like a left wing, cause i think that makes the left wing, isn't it? >> i think really it's probably. >> i think really it's probably. >> no, but i think it's made into a bigger issue. >> all right. okay. all right. coming up, coming up, coming up. the big climax of tonight's show, we will reveal who's today's greatest britain and union jackass. and the lengths some absolute idiots will go to in order to break the law. take a look at this. all right. if you can't quite figure out what's going on there, don't worry, because i'll tell you in just a couple of minutes
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welcome back to patrick christys. tonight. i have got a couple more front pages for you.
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now so we are going to start with the i, which is, toxic gas surge from us style chicken farms supplying uk supermarkets. so interesting for the i to go off on that particular one. we have also got the guardian which is sky mail of teacher shortage crisis in schools revealed. interesting though, that neither of them have decided to go off on the king, breaking the mould for all of the other national newspapers apart from the daily star, which decided to tell us all about radiation in the pyramids. so there we go. i am, as ever, joined by my fabulous panel we're going to with you through now to another important video that i saw last night. it was kicking off, kicking off in ireland . so where people in ireland. so where people in newtownmountkennedy and i have said that right rioted yesterday at a house earmarked to house asylum seekers and the police, it's fair to say got a bit sureity as well. we can have a
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look at this. okay, so look, that was just one of many scenes that took place there. the police were accused of essentially going house to house and looking for people. and, the irish have taken a radically different stand, to , radically different stand, to, alex, the issue of illegal immigration and migrant hotels than we have over here. >> yeah, they have, and they you know, the reason why people are behaving like this is no one's being consulted about it. they're just they're putting these centres in places where there's possibly small towns and villages. and in some cases, we even saw this in britain, where the migrants will outnumber the local population. there's no attempt at assimilation. it's very dangerous. in a lot of cases. we only saw a few few months ago the, the riots in in dubun months ago the, the riots in in dublin . and so we really do need dublin. and so we really do need to have a more honest conversation and a more public conversation, politicians to people as to why this is happening and what this long term solution is, because people think this is permanent.
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>> joanna. right. i worry that we're we're going to see stuff like that here, but we shouldn't because what do they think that they're going to achieve? >> that's my question. you know, when i see something like this. no. but it's like really they're doing it because obviously they love their their area. a lot of people say, i love my country. that's why i'm doing it. or i want my country back, etc, etc. so then what do you do? start burning bits of your country and start rioting? kicking off with the police ? who? your taxpayers the police? who? your taxpayers money. and it just reminds me of when people were , you know, when people were, you know, rioting and fighting with the police, scrapping at the cenotaph when they were, against the pro—palestine movement people on saint george's day the other day. i know that that wasn't as extensive as other riots that we've seen, but i just never understand. and i empathise with people in terms of their issues that they have, especially in local areas . but i especially in local areas. but i always think, what is this going to like change, john? >> i mean, like i said, yeah, the people of ireland have taken a much more strong stance, haven't they. i mean, well, we've had more trouble , more riots. >> i mean, no, i think what's interesting is that what you've
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got to try and do, if you can, is to make sure there aren't concentrate areas that, in a sense, in people's minds, that's where they live. once you do that, you are there's potentially danger because people then say, right, get them out , you know, set fire to that out, you know, set fire to that area. so it's very important. i know in, you know, if you go back a long time in liverpool, but always trouble between protestants and catholics and the local council just simply said when people came and said, can we live with other catholics or live with other protestants? and they said, no, just it's just in the order in which you apply. yeah. and they kept that rigidly. so you had these large areas. councillor states, people longing to collaborate and be together . but longing to collaborate and be together. but in longing to collaborate and be together . but in fact it was together. but in fact it was stopped, just spread out. >> all right. now we are we are going to have to rattle through this now, so no one likes a speed camera. do they really . speed camera. do they really. but nonetheless, we obviously can't condone this completely shameful display of downright blatant criminality , can .
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blatant criminality, can. we? eamonn that is being. let's keep if we can keep it on repeat, it'd be great. so yeah. good. the drone is, hovering over what appears to be a speed camera with what appears to be some kind of dustbin beneath it, right? i don't know whether it's a speed camera or ulez camera. again we do not condone this behaviour. it is criminality. and it must be condemned, that they're plonking it on the top of it there. it's a novel way of doing things. it attracted hundreds of thousands of views. this on social media, earlier on, i mean, yeah , i mean it's on, i mean, yeah, i mean it's it, it's novel, but obviously , it, it's novel, but obviously, john, we can't condone this kind of stuff, can we? >> we certainly can't condone it. and i can't reveal that i know what this is all about because when i was sent this, i asked the producer, what was that about ? so i'm the wrong that about? so i'm the wrong person. you can go puzzling over it, but i know the yourself of all. >> i know the answer. yeah yeah, yeah. john. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> no doubt far too much.
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>> no doubt far too much. >> john i far i far more , i far >> john i far i far more, i far more enjoy watching this form of protest against the establishment than i do, seeing people waving flags and attacking each other in the street. i mean, this is hilarious. i mean, we don't condone it, as you said, patrick, but it is funny, isn't it? people are getting very creative when it comes to protesting , for it's when i was protesting, for it's when i was growing up, when i was younger, there was a particular road where for ages we thought that there was a woman who was like, had a mobile speaker. >> and it turned out it was a hairdryer. she was just really angry that people were speeding down her cul de sac, and she was there, and people would slow down. you'd see them all breaking, right? okay, that's enough about that. again, i just want to emphasise, oh, okay. before we do that i want to emphasise don't do what you just saw on your screen there it is. criminal behaviour please for the love of god don't do it right. great britain, union jack has time . john. who's your has time. john. who's your greatest britain? >> my, my greatest britain is steve young. you don't know who he is. he's the guy that here. you can see him. he's right there receiving this trial dose of the anti anti cancer vaccine.
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and he's a decent guy because he knows how it may help others even if it may not help him okay good stuff joanna mine is a syrian refugee couple who are based in yorkshire . based in yorkshire. >> they came to the uk and started a cheese business and appeared in aldi's next big thing, where they were selected to for their cheese pastries to be listed in more than 1000 stores. so a positive refugee and a good business story. >> okay, yeah, mine's douglas ross , the leader of the ross, the leader of the conservatives up in scotland for starting to shove the knife into humza. useless. >> okay. all right. so today's greatest briton is douglas ross. yes there we go. obviously it was always going to be him wasn't it. right. okay. let's be quite quick about this now. union jacks time. >> john angela varne beau biden vandenberg. you know she's the woman . woman. >> i can't say this. >>— >> i can't say this. >> i can't say this. >> i felt like saying something another way of describing her name, but no, she's the post office woman who's been appearing before the inquiry. that's a second day. and throughout she said, i can't
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recall this, don't know that. and the whole business seems to be somebody a lawyer has presumably advised her. if you don't keep on saying this nonsense, you may go to prison , nonsense, you may go to prison, okay? but as for someone watching it, it's terrible. she's a jackass . all right. she's a jackass. all right. >> joanna, mine is, chris philp. he's definitely embarrassed himself as a union jackass this week. he didn't know the difference between the democratic republic of congo and rwanda . he was questioned on it rwanda. he was questioned on it on question time, and he just doesn't have a clue . doesn't have a clue. >> we do. right, do we? we're very quick, very quick. clip go on. just give it a go. go on. >> no, i think there's an exclusion on people from rwanda being sent to from rwanda. >> they're from congo, from congo and they're supposedly from congo. they're supposedly war in these people from rwanda. are they then going to be sent to rwanda if they came here on a crossing from . crossing from. >> yeah, there we go. right. >> yeah, there we go. right. >> very, very quick. mine's andrew neil for pushing more censorship despite being the man who says he's all about freedoms. >> okay . today's winner of the >> okay. today's winner of the union jack is chris philp mp for not knowing that congo was a
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different country to rwanda . i different country to rwanda. i mean good grief. right. thank you very much everybody. thoroughly enjoyed it . thank thoroughly enjoyed it. thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you to everyone who's watched this show as well. it's headliners next i will see you on monday at 9 pm. take it easy. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello again. good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. it's going to be another cold night tonight and rain will spread into the south and east through this weekend, with the best of the dry weather around the north and west once again. much as it has been throughout this week. but to the south we've got low pressure arriving and some weather fronts through this evening, so some heavy rain for many southern counties of england through this evening, as well as southern areas of wales by tomorrow morning, there's going to be a lot of cloud around, so it will be a milder night across the south. however, in the north, with cloud clearing and turning much drier, it's going to be another cold start on saturday morning. could be down as low as
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—4 or 5, so expect a frost really. for parts of scotland and northern ireland. but there will be, as today, lots of sunshine around , particularly sunshine around, particularly across the north and west. the best of the sunshine will be through the morning. cloud will bubble up into the afternoon, but across central areas, parts of wales and into the midlands are going to be quite a cloudy and cold feeling day. and into the southeast we'll start to see some showery outbreaks of rain, but in any sunshine it will start to feel that much milder, with highs of 14 or 15 degrees now on sunday. as i said, it is turning much wetter. this swathe of rain moves up to the north and east of the uk, bringing outbreaks of rain across many eastern areas but particularly across the southeast throughout the morning, that area of rain will push away to the east for sunday evening and into monday. then we pick up a southerly wind, which is going to pick up our temperatures closer to 19 degrees for tuesday. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather
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gb news. >> good evening. i'm tamsin roberts in the gb newsroom. here are the headlines. the prime minister has welcomed the news. king charles is returning to pubuc king charles is returning to public facing duties following the positive effect of his cancer treatment. a palace spokesperson says king charles is greatly encouraged to be resuming some public facing
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duties, and very grateful to his medical team. he's been receiving outpatient care since february for an undisclosed form of cancer. rishi sunak posted on x that it was brilliant news to end the week. these well—wishers outside buckingham palace agree. yeah it's great news. >> i mean, it was sad to hear about the cancer diagnosis and what with him and catherine coming at the same time. so it's great that he's on the mend. >> we'll be happy to be out and about and everyone , you know, about and everyone, you know, seeing that he's in good, in good health, it's good news for him, i suppose. >> and it's quite favourable news for the nation , i suppose news for the nation, i suppose the families of three men murdered in the reading terror attack are calling for urgent change, after a coroner ruled their deaths were probably avoidable. >> friends james furlong, doctor david wales and joseph ritchie—bennett were fatally stabbed in june 2020 when libyan
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refugee kyrees saadallah targeted them in a town centre park. the coroner said failings by the home office and the local nhs community mental health team contributed to their deaths . contributed to their deaths. james furlong's father, gary, said he has very little confidence that an attack like this will not happen again. humza yousaf says he will not resign as scotland's first minister, ahead of a crucial test of his leadership next week . he says that as a minority government, his party will need to make some concessions as it negotiates with other parties. it's after the collapse of the snp's power sharing deal with the greens yesterday. but humza yousaf says he'll fight on. >> i fully intend to not just win that vote, but i intend to fight to make sure that the government stays, not just the government stays, not just the government continues to deliver on the priorities of the people, like, for example, investing in affordable housing. so there's all that political game playing happening from the opposition .
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