gb news. >> very good morning. it's 930 on thursday. the 25th of april. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with me. bev turner. and today, ben. leo. >> very good morning to you, too. labour's railway overhaul. they pledged to renationalise the railways if elected, calling it, quote, the biggest overhaul to our railways in a generation. >> and wales school stabbing. a teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after two teachers and a teenage student were stabbed at a school in carmarthenshire. lucy letby appeal britain's worst child serial killer, will ask senior judges for permission to bring an appeal against all her convictions . convictions. >> we'll bring you the latest on the ground. >> and gay footballers. why aren't there any .7 well, there's aren't there any.7 well, there's about to aren't there any? well, there's about to be some. >> yes, in germany next month to

mark international day against homophobia, there will be a mass coming out of gay footballers from the top flight, which we hope and people hope will inspire footballers this side of the channel. i mean, come on out as well. >> come on, it's been too long now. you are the last bastion, it seems, of homophobia. is it because of the terraces? should it even matter? let us know your thoughts at home. gb views. no, it's not that anymore. gbnews.com forward slash yours. say, i've been saying that for so long. we've got our brilliant comments board now, so we will watch. >> i'll be on there in a second. i'm quite involved in that. do you get involved? >> well, sometimes i just completely zone out presenting the show and look at it. so we both do that. so the chat room, then it's going to be a disaster, but it won't be. so stay with us until midday. first though, your very latest news headunes though, your very latest news headlines with sophia wenzler. >> bev thank you. good morning. it's 932. i'm sofia wenzler in the gb newsroom. scotland's coalition government is over as the snp and the scottish greens end their power sharing deal.

>> it comes after scotland's first minister humza yousaf called an emergency meeting of his cabinet later, the breakdown of the power sharing deal follows criticism of a decision to scrap the country's 2030 climate target and the manner in which a review into gender services was conducted . the end services was conducted. the end of the deal means the snp will now be forced to operate as a minority government . labour is minority government. labour is promising to renationalise railways if it wins the general election. the party says it will be the biggest overhaul in a generation and claims the taxpayer will not pay a penny in compensation costs . it would compensation costs. it would mean all networks would transfer to public ownership within labour's first firm. current government proposals would see the creation of a public sector body, which would award contracts to the private sector. but labour's plan goes further, promising to establish a publicly owned network led by rail industry experts . the rail industry experts. the system of grading schools with

one word judgements should stay. that's according to the department of education. it says it's committed to the process , it's committed to the process, despite calls for it to be scrapped following the death of a headteacher . scrapped following the death of a headteacher. here, scrapped following the death of a headteacher . here, the a headteacher. here, the government says grades such as outstanding or inadequate provide significant benefits and give parents a succinct summary of schools. the grading system came under scrutiny following the death of headteacher ruth perry , who took her own life perry, who took her own life after a report downgraded her school . her sister, julie school. her sister, julie walters, says the government's response is woefully inadequate . response is woefully inadequate. and for the latest story, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news .com/ alerts. now it's back to ben and . bev. it's back to ben and. bev. >> hello. very good morning to you.934 >> hello. very good morning to you. 934 with ben and bev on britain's newsroom. only on gb news, labour shouting a lot from the sidelines, aren't they big

policies on railways, 13,000 new police officers as well . police officers as well. >> and yeah, this this announcement this morning from louise hay that was saying she wants to call it rail britannia. >> i i'll tell you what i like that. yeah. why didn't they keep it. they've missed an open goal there. >> right. we're going to be discussing that as well this morning. but first of all, this shocking news from wales because a teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after two teachers and a teenage student were stabbed at amman valley school in wales. >> yeah. superintendent ross evans spoke to the media. >> i am aware that there is footage circulating on social media and i would ask that this is kindly removed to preserve the integrity of the ongoing investigation and to avoid further distress to those involved . this was a very involved. this was a very distressing incident and our thoughts are with the victim's . thoughts are with the victim's. >> so joining us now from ammanford, south wales is our gb news reporterjack ammanford, south wales is our gb news reporter jack carson. ammanford, south wales is our gb news reporterjack carson. good news reporter jack carson. good morning jack. any stabbings are always shocking, but i think when it's committed by a girl

andifs when it's committed by a girl and it's in a school and it's against a teacher, the reverberations there must be enormous . enormous. >> certainly this community, i think just trying to come to terms with exactly what has happened. i mean , one of the happened. i mean, one of the local councils here this morning saying that the county council spent so much money on new fencing to try and keep the pupils safe from the outside, in no real situation. do you ever imagine that actually the danger is inside the gates, that it's inside the school. but of course, we know that a teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder by the police. she remains in police custody as investigations here at the school do continue, the school is closed today, but support is still being offered to the community and we heard of just how distressing. of course, this incident was. reports of some students tried to climb the seven foot fences here to try and escape the incident, as well as students calling their parents on the phone, screaming down the phone that somebody has been stabbed. it's such a shock, of course, on the school playground and one of the teachers we know actually tried to grapple the alleged attacker

and disarm them during the incident. and we have also got the names of two of the teachers that were stabbed in the incident. thankfully, none of the injuries yesterday have been deemed by the police and by the medical teams that were treating them as life threatening, thankfully. but drama and welsh teacher fiona elias and also liz hopkin, who works with special educational needs students, they're both thought by colleagues. lucky to be alive is the word that's been used by some of the colleagues to describe them, but they are still, of course, recovering from those injuries, as well as that other teenager that was injured in the incident. this is a shock to the community. as one of the school governors, who's been a governor here for 34 years, but also this well, they've come out and said that it's actually a big concern for them about what the future will hold. they feel that discipline, they say, has gone from schools . they say, has gone from schools. times have changed, and they say a teacher's job now is very dangerous. it was 11:20 am. when the police were called to the school here, and it was only 320 that actually some of the

pupils started to be released from the lockdown. so the anguish from a lot of parents outside their school, outside the school here, just wanting to hug their children, to know that they're okay, must have been agonising . but of course, agonising. but of course, thankfully those injuries are non—life threatening and that the community here will start to come together to support each other as investigations here at the school continue to jack carson, thanks very much for that update . that update. >> let's just bring you some breaking news now. shoplifting offences recorded by police in england and wales have risen to the highest level since current data began in 2003. that's according to the office for national statistics. >> this comes as labour pledges to fund 13,000 more police officers should they win the next election, outlining plans to save money on other resources, including police kit and cars, to pay for more officers on the streets. well, joining us now is mike neville, former detective chief inspector. good morning, mike. thank you for joining inspector. good morning, mike. thank you forjoining us. first thank you for joining us. first of all, maybe your response to that latest news about record shoplifting doesn't really come

as a surprise to anybody. we've almost all seen it happening with our own eyes recently. why leaving? >> last night, somebody tried to snatch my phone outside charing cross police station. so, it's the thieving and whatever else has gone on everywhere but the shoplifting in particular has become more and more organised. more and more gangs. become more and more organised. more and more gangs . and the more and more gangs. and the ridiculous thing, of course, is that the vast majority of these offences are recorded on cctv, high quality cctv and the police do not have the means to do anything about it. and if anybody is listening, i'm working with a professor on on building a database that will match all these people, because i had the world record of matching a shoplifter to 43 different crimes, and if you match an offender to 43 crimes, it means they go to jail. and that's what needs to happen. the government have done away with one year sentences. they made shoplifting under £200, a sort of summary. only magistrates court offence. and of course the

criminals know this, so they targeting £199.95 and they know that if the 1% chance of getting caught, they won't go to jail and they'll carry on shoplifting. and that's why it keeps increasing . keeps increasing. >> mike i spent some time in san francisco late last year , and francisco late last year, and it's really starting to feel like that over here, where they decriminalised shoplifting undenl decriminalised shoplifting under, i think it was $900. and the consequence of that is just a crime ridden hellhole. why, if we have so much cctv of perpetrators in these cases, are cops not turning up and nicking these people ? these people? >> well, what you got to have is the police have got, firstly, the police have got, firstly, the office returns up, they've got no equipment to download the cctv . there's millions of cctv. there's millions of different systems. secondly, unlike fingerprints and dna, there's no national database of images . so if you go shoplifting images. so if you go shoplifting in, you know, bolton, burnley , in, you know, bolton, burnley, liverpool, they all sound very close. but they're all three different forces, so the images aren't shared and very few police forces have any system of managing these images. so if

they'll put a picture of a thief up and say, do you know this person the following week, that image is lost. and i've been advising police forces on this. but of course, there's too many police forces are too bothered about , rainbow cars police forces are too bothered about, rainbow cars and police forces are too bothered about , rainbow cars and wokerati about, rainbow cars and wokerati and not arresting criminals. and that's got to change. >> the thing is, mike, all these wrong'uns are wearing masks on their faces now. anyway, we've completely normalised the use of covering up your face. so you've got a teenager with a hoodie and a massive black mask on. no one's going to tell him to take it off. he's going to say he's scared of covid. so we've got a completely messed up system. it just doesn't work. you can have as many cctv cameras as you want, but it's not going to get the wrong as behind bars. >> well , i the wrong as behind bars. >> well, i disagree, but because i had the human super mechanised unit and worked with professor josh davis and greenwich university, we actually did tests on this. >> and humans can pick people out by their eyes, and i had several convictions on that . so several convictions on that. so the police could do more if we got the images , which they often

got the images, which they often don't do. so get the images, get them identified, get them arrested and put them in jail because that's what criminals understand. i know it's basic stuff, and people will call me a dinosaur, but maybe i'm an arrest thesaurus because that's what needs to be done. more arrests need to be made . arrests need to be made. >> okay, mike, arrest thesaurus. what do you think about i sound like a broken record, actually, because every time we talk about crime , i always go back to rudy crime, i always go back to rudy giuliani, his the former mayor of new york. the broken window theory, where if you tackle the very low level crime, the yobs, the shoplifting, and, you know, the shoplifting, and, you know, the louts on the streets , then the louts on the streets, then that in turn will sort out the more serious crime, you're absolutely right. because if you look at shoplifting, what happens there is that sort of drug addicts, they become, they think, well, i'm entitled to steal this now. and if anybody challenges them, like the shopkeeper or a security guard, it turns into violence. and then therefore, the what? what should be like a low level crime then turns into a really nasty violent crime. and what the government have allowed is this

criminality to creep through. and of course, everybody else then thinks, well, if my mates can go and steal things and have them for free, why shouldn't i? and it's a it's a sort of breakdown of society and the rules that we all play by. mike. >> we've got this awful story this morning of this pupil that appears to have stabbed two teachers and another student at this school in wales , it's also, this school in wales, it's also, it shouldn't be more shocking that it's a girl. maybe that's a bit sexist, but it is, because it is still more rare for girls to be stabbing other people. what's what's given rise to that sort of lack of fear of consequences in a school child? >> well, firstly, i don't think you should say a sexist, because we know that 95% of crime is committed by men or male, so there's no problem with that. and also, this is in a very rural area, which makes it even more shocking. but i think it's just endemic of the breakdown of discipline in society that who would ever have thought of taking a knife to school? i mean, the teacher. we taking a knife to school? i mean, the teacher . we talk, we mean, the teacher. we talk, we hear about toxic, masculinity.

it's just as well the i think the deputy head was the one who got hold of the girl and disarmed her. so well done to him. what a brave man he was. but i just think in society as a whole , that the sort of rules whole, that the sort of rules that hold us all together are breaking down. whether it's taking a knife to the school or stealing things from the shop, these these are things that need to be addressed. >> mike, just very briefly, what do you make of labour's proposals for 13,000 more officers? they say they're going to get the money and fund it by centralising procurement. so why is one force paying £400 for a motorcycle helmet when another is paying £200? as an example, same with patrol cars. why is one force paying 27 grand, another paying 34? they'll have another paying 34? they'll have a centralised run procurement process, which will save about £360 million a year, and that will fund 13 new officers. good idea . idea. >> yeah, makes absolute sense because there's a thousand different uniforms, a thousand different uniforms, a thousand different cars get them all the same. and that will release some cash.i same. and that will release some cash. i think that's a good idea

i >> -- >> okay. brilliant. thank you. mike. mike neville, an arrest thesaurus. i think it's all downhill from now on this morning. that's brilliant. mike, thank you so much. i love that it shouldn't be anachronistic to want to arrest baddies, should it? and yet it kind of is. we've got house burglary not being investigated. yes. >> and thank you by mike. >> and thank you by mike. >> and, and i just think that i like the idea . >> and, and i just think that i like the idea. i like this labour idea. yeah i do, it seems commonsensical. >> i set off here this morning. there's a few labour policies i'm actually quite liking this morning, which i'm not sure what's happening, but. well, we better get used to it. >> right. up next, britain's most notorious serial killer child serial killer lucy letby, has bid to challenge her convictions at the court of appeal. and we'll be discussing that next with britain's newsroom on

gb news. >> 948 ben and bev with you on britain's newsroom. only on gb news now. child serial killer lucy letby. she's in court today to ask judges for permission to appeal criminal convictions after she was found guilty of murdering seven babies and the attempted murders of six others back in 2023. >> so gb news reporter sophie reaperis >> so gb news reporter sophie reaper is at the royal courts of justice this morning. sophie, what more can you tell us about this ? this? >> well, very good morning to you both . i think the short you both. i think the short answer to that, unfortunately, is not a lot . the legal is not a lot. the legal restrictions around this application to appeal are incredibly tight, and the reason for that is in just under six weeks time, lucy letby will be appearing at manchester crown court once again as she faces a retrial regarding child k. that was one of the children on the initial indictment whom the jury were unable to find a verdict on, and the prosecution are therefore retrying her on that one. that one case of attempted murder, and therefore today and this week so far, we've been

unable to report much on this because of those legal restrictions, were not able to say a lot because we can't risk prejudicing that jury that will sit in just under six weeks time. however, what we can tell you is the reason we are here at the royal courts of justice. this week is because of this application to appeal. now, after she was found guilty of those seven counts of murder and seven counts of attempted murder in august of last year, she, she and her legal team made the application to appeal against it. that's because you can't make the appeal. you have to go through the application process first of all. so they made that application in september of last yeah application in september of last year. it was initially denied in january of this year by a single judge. they then relaunched the bid to appeal. and that is why we are here this week. a panel of three judges have been heanng of three judges have been hearing the application to appeal and they will therefore make a judgement on whether or not the application is approved or denied. if it's approved, then we potentially could be

going through the appeal process. but if it's denied, then that would be the end of lucy lambie's attempt to appealing. she would therefore be spending essentially the rest of her life in prison, as she serves those 14 life orders that she was sentenced to last august i >> -- >> okay. thank you so much, sophie, now , how would you feel sophie, now, how would you feel if the government was searching through your bank accounts? how would you feel, ben. incriminated violated? really? they probably do already, don't they? >> well , the department for work >> well, the department for work and pensions could force banks, building societies and other organisations to repeatedly scan people's accounts . people's accounts. >> joining us in the studio now is director of big brother watch silkie carlo silky. just explain what's going on with this. it's the dwp , isn't it? they want to the dwp, isn't it? they want to probe benefit claimants, bank accounts and that also includes people receiving pension credit under the guise of what? looking for fraud? yes exactly. >> so the government, the government has smuggled to in basically unrelated bill, these sweeping powers to search all of

our bank accounts in order to find people that might be receiving any kind of welfare payments in search of not only welfare fraud, but error as well, including the state's own errors. so there's no serious crime threshold. there's not even a crime threshold, but all of our bank accounts under these plans will be continuously and repeatedly scanned. it's absolutely mind blowing. unprecedented and it's the kind of thing that i think if the government were honest about what they were trying to achieve here, the public would be outraged about, why don't we know more about this? it's a very good question . the powers very good question. the powers have been. you would expect that normally there would be a standalone bill for something like this. and that the public would be engaged about it. instead, these powers have been hidden in another bill. the government is not seeking any press about it. and that's why i'm really glad that you're covering it, because really, the pubuc covering it, because really, the public need to know this affects every single one of us. and of course, it is, mostly the people that dwp really want to look at are people that are receiving

the welfare payments, but that's 10 million pensioners. it's millions and millions of carers , millions and millions of carers, people with long term illness and disabilities. >> but silky, the dwp say that this is going to save hundreds of millions in fraudulent payments . and also there'll be payments. and also there'll be a lot of viewers watching this who say if you've got nothing to hide , what are you worried about hide, what are you worried about in terms of the money that it will save on the pr's own estimation, they'll save about 3% of their annual amount. >> that's lost to fraud and error. so they know that this isn't really going to solve the issues that they're facing. and let's be clear, obviously , the let's be clear, obviously, the government should be investigating fraud. and they already have powers to look at the bank accounts of suspects. but we have in this country the presumption of innocence and not any single one of us should have our bank account searched at our homes, looked at our phones looked at, or anything else unless we are suspected of doing something wrong. and what i'm really worried about is that in the digital world, the presumption of innocence is being stripped away and our lives are being intruded on all the time. >> what can people do if they're

outraged, as we are, by this stop bank spying ? stop bank spying? >> com is our campaign site. we've got a petition with with 166,000 signatures at the moment, and we really think people should be emailing their mps and shouting about this. >> this isn't the first time, is it? very quickly , hmrc, they it? very quickly, hmrc, they want to go after people's side hustles . if you're selling hustles. if you're selling things on etsy or ebay, they in january said that they're going to be able to get reports from those sites to also see, you know, how much money you've been earning there as well. so, yeah, i just think governments get out of our bank accounts. and as edward snowden once said, if people who say that, why are you worried about privacy if you've got nothing to hide, it's the equivalent of saying, why do you care about free speech if you've got nothing to say? absolutely doesn't make sense. silkie. carlo, big brother, watch. thank you very much. >> thanks so much. silky. right. lots more to come in the next few hours. stay with us. also, why are there no out footballers when many of them must be gay? i'm going to be talking about that and that might all be about to change. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb

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ben, leo and bev turner. >> good morning . thank you for >> good morning. thank you for joining us. so labour's railway overhaul. labour have pledged to renationalise the railways if elected, calling it the biggest overhaul to our railways in a generation . and boy do we need it. >> and failing to keep britain safe . the labour refused to say safe. the labour refused to say if they'll match the government's pledge on defence spending. can sir keir starmer be trusted to protect the uk and breast cancer awareness university of cambridge has released a landmark new study warning that breast cancer survivors are at significant risk of developing entirely new cancers somewhere else in the body. >> we're going to be joined by karol sikora . karol sikora. >> britain's underage drinkers a shocking report this morning carried out by the world health organisation. they say that the uk is the worst in the world for childhood drinking. are parents to blame?

and that is a really shocking story. actually, the revelations show that over half of 13 year olds in the uk have had at one point a good solid drinking session , and they're inspired by session, and they're inspired by the way the data shows they're inspired by middle class parents having frequent, you know, wine sessions in the evening. >> the very fact that we're using the phrase childhood drinking makes my blood run slightly cold. my 13 year old hasn't had those sorts of drinks. it's definitely it's of course, it's parentally related, not a glass of wine at dinner. what? my 13 year old. yeah. no, no , no, but this is the thing, no, no, but this is the thing, right? we especially when we were a little bit more european, a bit more than we are now, this idea, wasn't it, that we would have a european drinking culture and that we might water down the wine for the children at the table? we don't do that. all we do is still get absolutely hammered on the weekend. >> can you guess who's more prone to drinking? underage boys or girls, i would reckon girls. >> it's girls . >> it's girls. >> it's girls. >> 57% of girls as opposed to i think it's about 50% of boys. >> why is that? lots to talk about this morning. get in touch with us to let us know your

thoughts. gbnews.com forward slash. your say is the place to let us know first though, the very latest news with sophia wenzler . wenzler. >> bev. thank you. good morning. it's 10:02. >> bev. thank you. good morning. it's10:02. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . the scottish in the gb newsroom. the scottish greens have accused the snp of an act of political cowardice in ending the power sharing deal. it comes after scotland's first minister humza yousaf, called an emergency meeting of his cabinet. later, the breakdown of the power sharing deal follows criticism of a decision to scrap the country's 2030 climate target and the manner in which a review into gender services was conducted . the end of the deal conducted. the end of the deal means the snp will now be forced to operate as a minority government. labour is promising to renationalise the railways if it wins the next general election. the party says it will be the biggest overhaul in a generation and claims the taxpayer will not pay a penny in

compensation costs. it would mean all networks would transfer to public ownership within labour's first time. current government proposals would see the creation of a public sector body, which would award contracts to the private sector. but labour's plan goes further, promising to establish a publicly owned network led by rail industry experts. the systems of grading schools with one word judgements should stay. that's according to the department of education. it says it's committed to the process, despite calls for it to be scrapped following the death of a headteacher. the government says grades such as outstanding or inadequate provide significant benefits and give parents a succinct summary of schools. the grading system came under scrutiny following the death of headteacher ruth perry, who took her own life after a report downgraded her school. her sister, julie walters, says the government's response is woefully inadequate . now to some woefully inadequate. now to some breaking news that's just coming

in. the number of shoplifting offences recorded by police in england and wales has risen to the highest level in 20 years. over 430,000 offences were logged by forces last year. that's up more than a third on the year before. it's the highest figure since current records began, according to the office for national statistics, which described the latest increase as notable . while it increase as notable. while it comes after major retailers raised concerns about the rising cost of theft , a stabbing at a cost of theft, a stabbing at a school in wales yesterday was reportedly halted when a heroic teacher intervened, placing the attacker in an arm lock. amman valley school was put into lockdown yesterday when a student allegedly attacked two teachers and a pupil. their injuries are not life threatening . darryl campbell, threatening. darryl campbell, a teacher and chairman of a local rugby club, reportedly disarmed the alleged attacker, putting her in an arm lock until emergency services arrived . the emergency services arrived. the school will remain closed today while forensic teams investigate it. the suspect remains in

custody . the government is custody. the government is accusing labour of failing to keep britain safe after the party declined to support an increase in defence spending. the prime minister says £75 billion of new funding will show our enemies that we are resolute and determined, but shadow financial secretary james murray says the government hasn't laid out a clear plan. while the size of britain's army has actually been reduced, the government haven't set out their spending plans up to 2030. >> so if the government want to pubush >> so if the government want to publish their spending plans for 2030 and explain how they're going to get there, then we'll look at them, of course. and actually, i think that, you know, at the moment people are keen as well to judge the government by their record because they have been in power for 14 years. you know, we know that over £15 billion has been wasted on mismanaged defence procurement since 2010. we know how much the army has been reduced. you know, people i think will look at the government's record over the last 14 years when considering how much they can trust any of

the promises they're making now. but uk defence procurement minister james cartlidge says it's been a positive week for the armed forces . the armed forces. >> well, i'm pleased to say, in january we actually had the largest number of applications to join the army for six years. so actually we do have a huge amount of interest because of the mission and what's happening in the world. lots more people wanting to join the armed forces. and i've had the pleasure to set out a radical new reform of our procurement system. it's called the integrated procurement model. it will get rid of a lot of the bureaucracy and i do believe we'll lead to better procurement. but of course, to do that you also need the funding. so we've got the 2.5. so i think it's a really big positive week for the british armed forces. and i think that is the single most important thing, sending that positive message to those who serve on the front line . the front line. >> and for the latest story, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now it's back to ben and . bev.

ben and. bev. >> hello. welcome back. it's 1006. you're with ben and bev on britain's newsroom, only on gb news. >> so the labour party are planning to renationalise the railways in what they're calling the biggest overhaul of our railways in a generation. >> the party's pledging to transfer rail networks to public ownership within five years if elected. and they say their plan will not cost the taxpayer a pennyin will not cost the taxpayer a penny in compensation costs. >> how can that be possible? let us know what you think. we've been asking your thoughts about labour's plans this morning. >> i think it should be a standardised version and you're not always clear on the shore of the fares. >> i'm not sure. now it might be, but then can we afford it? >> and they can't get any worse. >> and they can't get any worse. >> definitely should nationalise the railways and all the rest of the railways and all the rest of the utility companies, and the government can we do that ? government can we do that? >> oh, she was. she was spicy, wasn't she? >> i love what i love the

british public. they always know what the problem is, don't they . what the problem is, don't they. gb news political correspondent katherine forsterjoins us now katherine forster joins us now with the latest . catherine, we with the latest. catherine, we were saying many times this morning it's easy to shout from the sidelines as labour are doing about different policies, railways and defence and, you know, whatever else. how are they going to implement this practically if and when they get into power ? into power? >> yes. good morning. well, that isindeed >> yes. good morning. well, that is indeed the question . and is indeed the question. and we've had this 26 page, quite detailed document and the speech by the shadow transport secretary, louise haigh , this secretary, louise haigh, this morning outlining how labour plans , if they come into plans, if they come into government, as likely they will, basically to take back control of the railways, the passenger services , when the contracts services, when the contracts end, those contracts expire , the end, those contracts expire, the government will not renew them. that's how they can say that. that's how they can say that. that's not going to cost a penny in compensation. they hope to do that by 2030. | in compensation. they hope to do that by 2030. i think all but two of the contracts are up for,

tender by then. what we don't know, however, is what the cost will be going forward in that they're saying they're going to not buy the rolling stock outright, but lease it. so that, of course, is going to run into many billions. but labour's argument is fundamentally that privatised, privatised of the railways hasn't worked. and i'm just going to read you a quote, unlike most privatisations that of the railways has never been publicly accepted because its failings have remained all too obvious . now failings have remained all too obvious. now louise hay quoted that and then said actually , that and then said actually, that's the words of the current defence secretary, former transport secretary grant shapps. they say labour says it's already costing taxpayers £4 billion a year to prop up the railways . the cost of strikes 25 railways. the cost of strikes 25 billion a day says that fares have gone up twice as fast as wages. so they're saying that

the railways are a symbol of national decline. they have big plans . of course, some of the plans. of course, some of the detail specifically around money not yet clear, but they're confident this is going to be popular. and i think we're seeing a return of boldness in politics over the last few days. this is a big announcement for the labour party. we've had loads of criticism of labour and the conservatives being really not much to pick between them. but, you know, we had this big, bold announcement from the prime minister on tuesday as well, about 2.5% defence spending. the government have also got the rwanda bill through parliament. they made the big announcement on welfare reform. so over the last few days, we're suddenly seeing quite a lot of policies coming forward , both by labour coming forward, both by labour and the conservatives and the dividing lines for the next election and suddenly becoming a whole lot clearer. >> okay. thank you. catherine. foster there. now, let's discuss this further with former labour

adviser and associate editor of labour uncut, kevin maher. good morning, kevin . good morning. morning, kevin. good morning. good morning. i think what catherine says there is quite heartening actually, because this idea that we're suddenly seeing water between the two parties and some bold policy ideas, i think the british pubuc ideas, i think the british public will be breathing a sigh of relief that they can start to see a difference between the two major parties. but on this issue of transport, do you think this privatisation has worked and why will nationalising them provide a better service for us? >> i think on pretty much any metric you look at, certainly, the satisfaction of customers who use the railways, privatisation has been a disaster. it's been a disaster, really, because the numbers of people using the railways over the last 30 years has just grown exponentially , and our kit and exponentially, and our kit and our infrastructure just hasn't kept pace . i mean, it's kept pace. i mean, it's a different issue, but this is partly what hs2 was about as well. and the trouble is that the train operating companies that that that are under or under licence operate the services, don't cohere. there's no coordination effectively

across a national network. so if you get a train, for example, that breaks down on a certain line and a certain company, you know, in the olden days of british rail, know, in the olden days of british rail , they weren't british rail, they weren't great. but but under the old days of british rail, it would have shunted it to the next station. they can't do that with different train operating companies, different liabilities, different insurance schemes and all the rest of it. so the big flaw in privatisation has been a lack of coordination, the breaking up of a network and what labour is saying today effectively, is that we need to there are two options. we either carry on with this absolute shambles or we go a different way and have a greater state involvement . now they're keen involvement. now they're keen not to say this is nationalisation and i think it's fair to say this is not an ideological move. this is simply a case of the travelling public has just had enough . has just had enough. >> but kevin, i look, i'm no fan of these train operating companies . i of these train operating companies. i paid of these train operating companies . i paid something companies. i paid something north of £90 this morning to get from , just outside brighton on from, just outside brighton on the south coast to london, and, you know, i was lucky to get that train. normally it's cancelled or they skip my stop because they're running late.

so, look, i'm no fan. however isn't part of the problem. our infrastructure, which is down to network rail. how would labour sort out our absolutely crippled infrastructure problems? >> i think you've got to you've got to start somewhere. i mean, the fact, the fact is that what we've got doesn't work. the status quo is, in that sense, is not an option. and frankly , if not an option. and frankly, if i was if i was advising the conservative party, i'd be i'd be saying, you take a look at what labour's doing and jump in ahead of them because there's no other option here either. the state takes a bigger role, a bigger controlling strategic role in the railways, or we carry on with inexorable decline. i mean, i had a conversation, recently with, with, you know, with a very middle class barrister in a pinstripe suit who's trying to get to manchester. it was late for court, and the striking thing about, about the failure of, of the railways is that it affects everybody in society. it affects everybody in society. it affects rich people , it affects affects rich people, it affects students, it affects poor people, all people, young people, all people, young people, everybody workers. and it's one of these issues that actually when you start talking to people, as you often do, waiting for a late train, everybody comes up with

basically the same solution that we need to nationalise the railways, take greater control of them. so i think as a retail offer , in politics, this is this offer, in politics, this is this is actually a pretty smart move by labour. and as i say, if the conservatives were smart, they would have jumped in ahead of it and said it's just not tenable because, you know, mps as well. for example, you know, they sense this first hand as well. moving around the country, you know, and it's one of these rare issues where mps actually are in the same lot as pretty much all the same lot as pretty much all the rest of us. and i think i think there's been a kind of groundswell of opinion, particularly in the labour party, but way beyond it that actually the only other option, if we don't carry on with this absolute disaster , is to absolute disaster, is to renationalise the railways in all but name, but certainly have all but name, but certainly have a more strategic central control from the government. there will be people , of course, listening be people, of course, listening to this, kevin, who are just going, oh, this is going to be more labour spending loads of money. >> we're all going to be paying for these new trains and new services via our tax payments. how can labour reassure the pubuc how can labour reassure the public that isn't what this is going to look like. it can't be

beyond the wit of man to also make this somehow profitable . make this somehow profitable. >> that's absolutely. i mean, as i say, the number of passengers that we've seen grow from from the mid 1990s, it's grown by 40. so, so , so there's got to be so, so, so there's got to be a model in here somewhere. yeah. it actually makes money. and we've, we seem to have had a sort of extraordinary situation where the state is propping up these private companies and has been all the way through privatisation , i think 4 or £5 privatisation, i think 4 or £5 billion a year every single yean billion a year every single year, just to kind of keep the things going. so, so what we've got just doesn't work. and i think, i think the only other option, as i say, is to take the government to take a bigger commanding role. and what happens, of course, is that the train operating companies operate under licence. and as those licences expire, what labour are saying is it won't renew them and it will take state control of them, which we've seen even under this government, with several lines already over the last ten years or so. it's not in that sense. it's not a lurch into the unknown. it's an extension, frankly, of what this government's already been doing, which is, as i say, if they were smart, they would have jumped in ahead of labour on this one, okay. >> kevin maher, associate editor

of labour uncut, thanks very much. sorry, beth. jumping in there. no >> oh, i wanted to see what the viewers at home have been saying, but we've got time for a break. that means we get to read them at our leisure, so keep them at our leisure, so keep them coming. gbnews.com forward slash your say still to come . slash your say still to come. >> is england the worst country in the world for underage drinking ? it is. world health drinking? it is. world health organisation says so. yes. so does the nation have a problem with alcohol bev do you i know you like a glass of wine. >> well i like a drink, but luckily my kids don't. and that's what this story is about. so don't go anywhere.

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sitting so close to me. we have. who's to say i'm not sitting so close to bev? >> you know what it's just to do with the director? i'm going to blame the director. we've got a slightly different one today. oh, you've got these different shots. you could have said because you like me. >> that's why you're sitting so close . close. >> we are friends. we like it. we? it's all fine. you know , we? it's all fine. you know, andrew and i, sometimes there's a little more gap between us, literally and metaphorically. right now. moving on swiftly because andrew's one of andrew's best mates, is here. carole malone's in the corner. she'll tell him what i was saying about him, not me. >> i was to tell them i'll tell them now. but we both noticed you were sitting really cosy before. we just said, look how close those two are. it's incredible. well, he's my pal . incredible. well, he's my pal. >> well, we get on well. better. and also scarlett mccgwire is here. good morning scarlet, thank you so much for joining us. right, ladies, do you want to talk about rishi sunak, said that he would put britain's defence industry on a war footing. and this was yesterday. biggest boost to military spending, carol. yeah, and of course, labour are saying they wouldn't necessarily match that. this is incredible because this remember the poll just a week

ago and we talked about it on here saying that, you know, more people trusted starmer on defence than than the tories . defence than than the tories. >> and here he is, saying he won't commit to this spending. and this is a guy who spent most of his life actually criticising everything that the armed forces for , stand which which is bad for, stand which which is bad news. i mean, i think this will shock people that he's not backing this. this is much needed money. you know, it's only you know, i think russia has increased their spending by i think they spent 6.9% of gdp. we spent a piddling 2. and all this is going to do is knock it up this is going to do is knock it ”p by this is going to do is knock it up by 0.5 of a percent, and he's going to spend 75 billion over the next few years, between now and 20, 2030, i think. so i think it's much needed and i think it's much needed and i think people need to feel protected. i think they feel money is being wasted on other things. and i'm just sorry he didn't do it in the budget. i think that's a shame. and it seems that , you know, he's seems that, you know, he's having a week where he's being tough on everything. he's being tough on everything. he's being tough on everything. he's being tough on rwanda, he's being tough on rwanda, he's being tough on rwanda, he's being tough on this. he could have done this in the budget . yeah. done this in the budget. yeah. had a bigger bounce.

>> we had mark francois on patrick's show. the other night. and he was saying that actually credit to the prime minister and jeremy hunt for doing this because although they maybe made a mistake by not doing it in the budget, they've listened to their mps, they've listened to people and they've reacted off the bat. >> now they know that security is, you know, protecting your citizens is the most important . citizens is the most important. >> scott. >> scott. >> hold on. >> hold on. >> let's let's let's get this straight. >> so they've they've announced it because this is what this government does. it announces things and then you then you work out. so sort of before 2030 it might happen. work out. so sort of before 2030 it might happen . and what it might happen. and what they've said to pay for it is they're going to sack 70,000 civil servants, which will not good. which what's wrong with that? hold on. which will i'm not saying that which will not pay not saying that which will not pay for it. it will not come anywhere close . and what anywhere close. and what labour's saying is, is, of course, we want i mean, you know, at the moment the, the army is smaller than it was in napoleonic times, right. of course we want to do it, to do it, but actually we have to do it, but actually we have to do it properly. but scarlett starmer has not said he's going

to do it, that that's the point. he said look, what he said is of course i want to do it, but i want to do it properly and i want to do it properly and i want to do it properly and i want to do. when we get in, we have to look at the books because nobody will. >> scarlett. how can we trust sir keir starmer on defence, when he was the man who wanted to put jeremy corbyn in number 10, and jeremy corbyn wanted to get rid of trident nuclear deterrent ? deterrent? >> this look, this is really, really no, no no , ben. really no, no no, ben. >> really boring. that's because because starmer has said on everything this is a, this is a very, very different labour party. >> everything he's done shows it's a very different labour party. and he began with his war on anti—semitism. right. and he and he he's thrown and he's thrown out a lot of people in the labour party for anti—semitism, thrown out enough people. and he's well, that might be riddled with well, that's what you say. well, it is unlike any other party. but what i'm saying is, is this is what he's is that everything that starmer says it has to be? yes, we can pay for it. right >> and what he's saying this is so you're so wrong on this.

everything we say we're going to pay everything we say we're going to pay for it. 28 billion on green issues. they couldn't pay for that. issues. they couldn't pay for that . they had to drop it that. they had to drop it humiliatingly. they had to drop it. his his defence secretary yesterday, emily thornberry, was asked what labour's defence policy. emily thornberry is not the defence. she was stuttering like a fish out of water. >> she was not what she was saying, what she was saying is that actually you have to, you have to, you have to find the money. you have to do a review. you have to see, i mean, at the moment we are spending money. thatis moment we are spending money. that is ridiculous . so we have that is ridiculous. so we have we have aircraft carriers that we have aircraft carriers that we don't even have enough people to staff. right. that actually and the whole problem and particularly in the last 14 years, but actually the last 30 is defence procurement is hopeless. >> do everything goes over spending this money on. >> no, i'm saying of course we should be spending the money. of course. know what i'm saying is we've got to find out how how we're going to spend the money, where we're going to spend the money. >> carol makes a great point. labour for the past six months have been coming out of the woodwork with all these grand policies. £28 billion for this

deranged net zero that is not funded. and the moment the moment dropped, scarlett one second dropped 28 billion. >> so let's not argue about 28 billion. >> and please let's not argue about 28 billion. do not think it's joking. >> do you not think it's a bit politically naive of starmer? it's an open goal here just to say yes we'll match. of course we'll match the tories. and no, because as soon as he says it they say how are you going to pay they say how are you going to pay for it? >> every policy labour comes up with is paid for. it is not. thatis with is paid for. it is not. that is absolute tosh. >> carol there. >> carol there. >> and they're ridiculed within days. >> this is this is absolute rubbish. everything that's why they come up with so few policies. oh is because we're reading different things. >> they're coming up with policies all the time. >> and then within two days you to name to name me a policy and i'll get off here. >> i'm going to go to on google and i'll bring six back in in the next half. >> i'm back. i mean, i know because i mean, i spend a lot of time with labour people and they spend their whole time saying, we can't do this because we've got to work out how we're going to pay for it. so what they're saying on defence is, of course, we want 2.5. kia has been

talking about 2.5% for ages. he absolutely agrees. but actually it's not good enough to do headlines. this is what this government, this government, this government does headlines and doddie weir deliver opposing everything. >> the armed forces stand for rubbish for you to say that he now is saying, oh, of course you want it to be two. but no, it isn't. he's saying it. he's saying it because it's politically expedient, because he knows that's what the. >> no, it's because he believes in it actually. because he believes and said dickie thank you. >> dickie saying ministry of defence procurement i spent 24 years in the military. the mod have a habit of buying the most expensive rather than the best when it comes to anything that's the problem. >> it always goes over it. i mean, i mean, procurement is really difficult. i mean, you know that if you know anything , know that if you know anything, you know, hs2, blah, blah, blah, blah. but actually the worst is the ministry of defence. they love the toys, but they can't pay love the toys, but they can't pay for them. >> scarlett, i'll say again, i know you said he's changed. sir keir starmer wanted jeremy corbyn in number 10. this is a man who wanted to get rid of our nuclear deterrent. trident. he also called hamas. our friends.

well, look, you did, jeremy corbyn did. i know, but look so, so keir was under jeremy corbyn. >> he was in the shadow cabinet and there's this thing called called called collective responsibility. and it's exactly it's actually it's one of that's that sounds like he hasn't sir keir starmer hasn't got much , keir starmer hasn't got much, hasn't got much integrity. >> then if he if he's just parroting the party line regardless of the morals of the leader he wants, that's what happensin leader he wants, that's what happens in cabinet. >> there's one of the reasons suella braverman got sacked because she could not do, responsibility. i mean, actually, he . actually, he. >> but corbyn to the hilt when before coco gauff. he backed him to the hilt and he was. >> he was in the. i know he didn't back him to the hilt because i knew keir i knew keir, it was really difficult and he decided that he would fight from the inside. right. no, that's what he did. he supported jeremy corbyn. carol, i do know rather more about this than you do. well, you seem to read it in the papers a little bit. >> what's the word, what's the word when someone is a bit, is a bit entranced by somebody. you

seem the keir starmer enthralled to him because don't call him mr flip—flop for nothing. every policy he puts out, he changes his mind on. and it's uncosted. >> it's never uncosted. it is never uncosted you ask any , you never uncosted you ask any, you ask any member of the shadow cabinet. rachel reeves will not allow any policy to go out that is not costed . is not costed. >> she's a she's a genius at finance. okay. >> anyway, thank you ladies. i think we have run out of time for that first, first debate, we will see you both in the next houn will see you both in the next hour. first, though, your morning's news with sofia. >> bev. thank you. from the gb news room at 1028. your headlines. former post office headlines. former post office head of partnerships angela van der borgund has said she is truly sorry for the devastation caused to wrongly convicted subpostmasters. she told the post office horizon it inquiry this morning that she hopes her

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us. >> good morning. 1035. is it thursday? i've had a short week. it's been about to say it's friday. fri day. >> friday. >> then it's not. >> then it's not. >> it's thursday, isn't it? you're back on tomorrow, though, right? >> yes. you're not inaya. no. good for you. any plans? possibly. >> we can talk about them after the show. because you probably do the news now, right? shoplifting. britain's newsroom is still here tomorrow. ben will be here tomorrow. right? shoplifting offences in england and wales have risen to the highest level since current data began. >> yes , according to the office >> yes, according to the office of national statistics, police recorded shoplifting offences in england and wales have jumped by a staggering 37. and it comes as major retailers raised concerns about the rising costs of thefts. >> so gb news is home security editor mark white joins us now. mark, you've been looking at these figures hot off the press, not in a complete shock, but what's the detail? >> well, it's up 37% to 430,000 offences. now these are offences recorded by the police. but retailers actually estimate that

there are about 6 million shoplifting incidents each year at retail stores right across the land. they say it is an epidemic of shoplifting, where often organised gangs now are coming in and stealing goods and really knowing that the likelihood of the police being called is limited and they feel they've got carte blanche to go and do that. >> mark, i have no science behind this assumption or observation, but is there anything in the facts that we see so many of these big shoplifting incident from america where people go into shops in california, fill black bags full of goods and they just walk out because the public and the store staff don't want to intervene. are we seeing sort of a social contagion here with it, maybe? >> yeah, definitely a trend. i would describe it as, you know, in the same way that we saw a trend towards the theft of mobile phones, when more and more people started walking around their streets with their heads down in their phones,

criminals clearly realised then it was very to easy go up, snatch, especially if they're on the back of a moped or whatever. and that became a became a real phenomenon in the same way, now there are much more organised in terms of what they're doing in retail stores. so they will often go in in groups, steal items and then leave. but it's look, the, the numbers who are going in on groups are probably the minority. the vast majority of thefts from shops and stores are individuals , but they still are individuals, but they still have that same mindset that it's unlikely the police will be called. if they are called, then because the theft is now really deau because the theft is now really dealt with as a summary offence under £200. in other words, it can be dealt with at a magistrates court. you're just given a fixed penalty notice, of which many people never pay the fixed penalty notice in the first place. people just take that risk. that's the calculation that it can go in the, you know, the consequences

are limited for them. >> it's a the government need this like a hole in the head at the moment, don't they. this reflects so badly on this current administration for so many reasons. >> i think to be fair to the government, they have been listening to the real concerns that retailers have had about what, as they say, they claim is an epidemic of shoplifting in stores across the country. so they have put an amendment through to the crime bill, which is due to come through. they hope by the summer , which will hope by the summer, which will put more money into ensuring that they are doing more, to try to get a grip of this epidemic of shoplifting. that will include the likes of facial recognition vans in some streets. i know that that great, that that'll help when everyone's wearing a mask and there's terrible success rate. you know, it's happening to some extent as well . there's a system extent as well. there's a system called operation pegasus in which some of the big retailers like marks and spencer's, boots

and primark are plugged in to criminal policing databases, facial recognition databases to highlight potential non shoplifters coming into the store. and then what? but clearly civil liberties groups say that this is orwellian. the vast majority of the public law abiding citizens are being trolled in terms of their data , trolled in terms of their data, rather than actually the police just respond to these crimes and deaung just respond to these crimes and dealing with them as retailers would like. >> yeah. thank you mark. and but also , guys, it's not just about also, guys, it's not just about facial recognition and tech solving all our problems. when you look at the footage we've just shown there of all those scallies just completely lawless who are those young people? why have they not got anything better to do? why do they feel they can behave in that way? why have they? why do they think that money just comes so easily? >> i'll tell you why they think they can. >> all those social problems are not going to be fixed by facial recognition. >> no, i'll tell you why. they feel emboldened to behave like

thatis feel emboldened to behave like that is because people i think this is part of the problem. people passers by, shop workers just won't want to get involved anymore. who's going to want to stop a shoplifter? who's nicking 100 quid's worth of groceries or a steak when potentially they're going to get stabbed , or even going to get stabbed, or even they're going to get done themselves by the police for intervening, or maybe get charged for assault. you just wouldn't bother you just. >> but why are they doing it in the first place? when you see those footage? they're all young people predominantly, who just feel they can just behave with impunity. i should say just that's been years in the making. >> as part of this amendment to the law, there will be a specific offence of assault of a retail worker, which can carry a six month terms in jail, but that depends really on the police turning up and dealing with it. they're still only turning up to a fraction of the assaults on retail workers . assaults on retail workers. >> all right, mark, thank you so much. right. moving on. breast cancer survivors are at significant risk of developing entirely new cancers somewhere else in the body, researchers have warned. >> yeah. so experts at the university of cambridge found that women who survived breast cancer have double the risk of cancer have double the risk of cancer in their other breast,

and they're at an 87% increased risk of endometrial cancer. >> so joining us now is oncologist and former chief of the who's cancer program, professor karol sikora . carol, professor karol sikora. carol, great to see you. i think the assumption always was that if you had one cancer, you were more likely to develop another cancer in the future. so how is this different ? this different? >> i think this is a very large study which gives it credibility . 600,000 nearly women in england from the national health service database, and they looked for second cancers years after for 25 years on. it was published yesterday in the lancet. published yesterday in the lancet . and what's interesting, lancet. and what's interesting, as you say, 87% of the younger women, women under 50 that had breast cancer developed another cancer somewhere else, the incidence was 87% higher in someone that had had breast cancen someone that had had breast cancer, which is amazing. endometrial cancer was one ovarian another. and surprisingly, a relatively rare form of leukaemia called chronic myeloid leukaemia was also

increased. >> and what does this mean for doctors like you? and then secondly , also what does it mean secondly, also what does it mean to patients? >> so it means that people that have breast cancer should really be followed up more avidly than we thought. you know, what's when i started a long time ago in oncology, we followed everybody for ten years, just yearly follow up women liked it. they were reassured. men also get breast cancer by the way, but it's relatively rare compared to women. the patients liked it because they felt reassured. we've cut back on that. reassured. we've cut back on that . people get three or maybe that. people get three or maybe five years follow up, and then if they have a problem, they have a telephone number they can phone, it means that if we're going to look for these second cancers, we should be a bit more aggressive with the follow up investigations and so on. why it's happening. we don't know. that's the wonder of epidemiology. like this. they look at large numbers. they find an observation . but no one knows an observation. but no one knows why. one can theorise that's all one can do. >> and carol, various, data and

studies have shown that cancer, all forms of cancer, amongst particularly young people, has really rocketed in recent years . really rocketed in recent years. what's behind that, if anything? >> again, we have no idea. it's very good data, not just from britain but europe , from north britain but europe, from north america. people under 50 are having a higher incidence of relatively rare types of cancer pancreatic cancer, non—hodgkin's lymphoma . and the rates have lymphoma. and the rates have doubled. melanoma, the skin cancer that's can be lethal if it's not caught early. the reason for this age shift and the aggressiveness of young people's cancer is not known. one theory that came out just last week in a scientific journal was that the people that get young people's cancers tend to have an early ageing process, so their cells behave like older person's cells, and that makes them more at risk from getting cancen them more at risk from getting cancer. but like all these things, you can make up lots of theories and we really don't know the facts . so we have to know the facts. so we have to get to the bottom of it.

>> we've got a bit of an awful news in the paper this morning that britain is worst. one of the worst in the world when it comes to underage drinking , comes to underage drinking, alcohol plays a role. does it not, in whether you've got a likelihood of developing cancer, how how worrying is it to you understanding what you do, knowing that children are drinking and starting drinking younger and younger? >> yeah. this is a report from w.h.o. released yesterday about underage drinking in 44 countries. and england and scotland came out top of the underage drinking. yeah i feel that maybe a bit of it's how the questions phrase . how did you questions phrase. how did you have a drink if you're under 13? i think most kids experiment with things, whether it's cigarettes, with drinking . i cigarettes, with drinking. i certainly had a drink when i was 12, i remember. so i'd been that positive category, but i never tookit positive category, but i never took it any further . and that's took it any further. and that's the difficulty of this sort of study. it's not so much whether the kid tried mummy's sherry bottle on the cabinet top, but whether they actually started taking it regularly . and what's

taking it regularly. and what's interesting about the study, it was girls rather than boys that were the more avid continual drinkers, underage . so it's very puzzling. >> yeah . really interesting. >> yeah. really interesting. okay. professor karol sikora, former chief of the who's cancer programme, thanks very much . programme, thanks very much. appreciate it. maybe maybe the data showing that young girls more than boys are drinking more is maybe something to do with social media. the increased pressure on image and body image and things like that. and it also thinking out loud. >> yeah, i have so many theories as to why that might be. but you know what i keep taking from all of these conversations that we have on here with doctors all the time, you've just got to take responsibility for your own health because no one's going to do it for you. that's all i keep thinking every time we talk to a doctor, i think we've got into very lazy lifestyle habits. eating too much, drinking too much, not moving enough. and then we think, well , the state, then we think, well, the state, then we think, well, the state, the nhs will look after me. it sort of won't anymore. we've just got to take good care of ourselves . ourselves. >> the government, when you live a life relying on the

government, a the government's not your friend and b the government's not there to look after you. once you recognise that life is a lot more liberating when you realise you're in control of your own health, your own destiny, your own finances , and you stop own finances, and you stop relying on the state, life gets a lot easier. let me tell you. >> right up next, i'm going to be joined by the creator of the national campaign for swifts. this is after tory peer lord goldsmith zac goldsmith blasted housing secretary michael gove yesterday for the government's behaviour regarding this very special urban bird. we're going to be talking to a very special woman about it in just a moment. this is britain's newsroom on .

gb news. very good morning. thank you for joining us. this is britain's newsroom on gb news. now, tory peer lord zac goldsmith has blasted housing secretary michael gove for the

government's distressing behaviour regarding little tiny birds, which are swifts. >> yes, not taylor swifts. we're talking about birds here. so the former environment, secretary is urging the government to make, quote, swift bricks compulsory in new housing developments . so in new housing developments. so swift bricks if you didn't know. i've learned this morning they are special types of bricks that you construct houses with where swifts, birds can nest safely . swifts, birds can nest safely. >> that's right. but goldsmith says that michael gove has gone silent on this issue. well, somebody who hasn't gone silent, luckily for the swifts, is hannah bourne—taylor. she is campaigning with zac goldsmith and she joins us now. good morning hannah. great to see you.thank morning hannah. great to see you. thank you so much for joining us. okay. so just explain to us this sounds like a really simple solution to a wildlife problem. what are swift bncks wildlife problem. what are swift bricks and where is the resistance coming from. >> so swift bricks are absolutely essential and urgently so. because without swift bricks there's no guaranteed nesting habitat for swifts or birds reliant on our walls anywhere in britain. and there never will be, because their nooks and crannies, their

natural nesting sites, are being blocked off inadvertently and unprecedentedly , and new builds unprecedentedly, and new builds don't have any opportunity for nesting habitat because of climate mitigation measures. so this is a case of a biodiversity measure that isn't a supplementary thing, like a hedgehog hole or a bee brick. this is absolutely essential . this is absolutely essential. they cannot breed unless they can nest. and what's worse about it is that it's really urgent. because if you look at the british trust of ornithology, estimates of their declines and population numbers, they've declined over 60% since 1995. the breeding population and their low baseline is really scary. so it's about 45,000 pairs right now in the uk. and by next year, the estimate is fewer than 40,000 pairs. so if we want to keep this species a species that has been here for 16 million years, we need to install this brick. it's pretty simple, can people add them retrospectively to their houses as well? >> hannah, if they want to, yes. >> hannah, if they want to, yes. >> you can retrofit swift

bricks, although it's a little bit harder and you can also externally add a wooden nest box instead, which is better than nothing for sure. and lots and lots of people are doing that. and if you don't know about it and want to just look me up and i'll help you. but this needs to be a national scale industry wide measure. otherwise we're going to lose these species . going to lose these species. >> you've been having to take some, brilliantly photographic, activities, some images. hannah to raise awareness. here you are, i think this is you . are, i think this is you. semi—naked. you appear to be wearing your pants if you're listening on the radio. no doubt. that's just made you turn on the tv, but your body is painted now as a swift. what kind of response are you getting when you go out and tell people your story ? your story? >> well, horribly. that was 18 months ago and gb news had me on at that day. actually live in the studio was brilliant. and since then i've done a whole naked thing again with zac goldsmith , who i'm very grateful goldsmith, who i'm very grateful to have this unprecedented alliance of, yeah , i get online

alliance of, yeah, i get online trolled, i get told horrible things like, i deserve to be gang raped. it's not very fun. the whole point, though, is that ineed the whole point, though, is that i need to keep this in the media because the government is carrying on saying no, even though natural england, all the ngo conservations, all the experts in the world, in even foreign environment ministers are stepping in saying, hey, go do this, do it now. we're going to lose these species. we've doneit to lose these species. we've done it before . it works in our done it before. it works in our country. just do it. it's really simple. the house builders haven't even objected. so there is really no barrier for the government not to act. and i don't understand. and unfortunately, neither does zac goldsmith and all the other politicians who are championing so is it just down to money then? >>i then? >> i mean, what is the objection? no >> what's it? there is no objection. that's the whole point. and no one knows why michael gove isn't in isn't green lighting it. we've gone through every stage. so i had a petition . it was the fastest petition. it was the fastest growing petition. government petition. of 2023. it then had a huge parliamentary debate , the huge parliamentary debate, the government said no. then zac goldsmith tabled an amendment. we got cross—party whip support.

the government said no. but michael gove graciously, graciously asked us to a meeting . so zac and i went to a meeting with the secretary of state. we had a really productive meeting. we both felt it's quantified by the fact that michael gove asked us to a second meeting, this time with the minister of housing. this happened in february, and the whole point of that meeting that michael gove set us was, okay, guys, you come to the meeting in february with the minister of housing and, members of the house builders federation . so the lobby groups, federation. so the lobby groups, house builders, and if they don't object, then that's really good news. you know, there's no real barrier. >> and so we are very happy to we're very happy to support your campaign . thank you so much for campaign. thank you so much for joining us this morning michael gove, if you're watching , just gove, if you're watching, just do something about it. sort it out. stopping you and actually labour might get on side with you eventually by the end of the yeah you eventually by the end of the year. who knows? hannah bourne—taylor, thank you so much for joining us. one of many forjoining us. one of many ladies who probably wouldn't have minded got naked with zac goldsmith. >> no comment. lots more to come. stay with us. here's your.

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thursday, the 25th of april. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with me, bev turner and ben leo. very good morning to you. >> labour's railway overhaul. they pledged to renationalise the railways if elected, calling it the biggest overhaul to our railways in a generation. >> and failing to keep britain safe. labour refused to say if they will match the government's pledge on defence spending. can starmer be trusted to protect the uk? in your opinion, and a group of top footballers are planning to come out as gay next month on the international day against homophobia. >> does football have a homophobia problem? some breaking news in the last houn some breaking news in the last hour, the scottish national party are cutting ties with the greens and their power sharing deal greens and their power sharing deal. so the deal was that if the snp got into power and they needed a majority, they'd team up with the greens in the process. but now , in the wake of process. but now, in the wake of humza yousafs row back on net

zero targets in scotland, the greens have said what are you doing? we don't want to be in bed with you anymore. so very, very interesting. and also sorry to interject, ben humza yousaf, as far as i'm concerned, what a massive hypocrite. and rishi sunak rowed back on the uk's net zero targets, pushing back the date for, petrol and diesel cars . he did a video calling .him horrific, and basically saying that the world would be consigned to burn. he's done the same thing in scotland just weeks after that video. >> so yeah, we're going to be talking about that and what that might mean, particularly for the people in scotland. let us know your thoughts this morning. gbnews.com/yoursay. first though, the very latest news headunes though, the very latest news headlines with sophia wenzler. >> bev, thank you from the gb newsroom at 11:00. your top story. the post offices former head of partnership says she's truly sorry for the devastation ian caused to wrongly convicted subpostmasters . the ongoing subpostmasters. the ongoing inquiry is examining governance, redress and how the post office

and others responded to the. it scandal. angela van der bogerd told the post office says she hopes her evidence will give all those wrongly convicted the answers they deserve . answers they deserve. >> saying sorry and no doesn't change what's happened. but i do want to say to everyone impacted by wrongful convictions and wrongful contract termination that i am truly, truly sorry for the devastation caused to you, your family and friends. i hope my evidence will assist this inquiry with getting to the answers you and so many others deserve . deserve. >> the scottish greens have accused the snp of an act of political cowardice in ending the power sharing deal . it political cowardice in ending the power sharing deal. it comes after scotland's first minister, humza yousaf , called an humza yousaf, called an emergency meeting of his cabinet. later, the breakdown of the power sharing deal follows criticism of a decision to scrap the country's 2030 climate target and the manner in which a review into gender services was conducted . the end of the deal

conducted. the end of the deal means the snp will now be forced to operate as a minority government . labour is promising government. labour is promising to renationalise the railway if it wins the next general election. the party says it will be the biggest overhaul in a generation and claims the taxpayer will not pay a penny in compensation costs . it would compensation costs. it would mean all networks would transfer to public ownership within labour's first term. current government proposals would see the creation of a public sector body, which would award contracts to the private sector. but labour's plans goes further , but labour's plans goes further, promising to establish a publicly owned network led by rail industry experts . the rail industry experts. the system of grading schools with one word judgements should stay. that's according to the department of education. it says it's committed to the process , it's committed to the process, despite calls for it to be scrapped following the death of a headteacher . scrapped following the death of a headteacher. here, scrapped following the death of a headteacher . here, the a headteacher. here, the government says grades such as outstanding or inadequate provide significant benefits and give parents a succinct summary of schools. the grading system

came under scrutiny following the death of headteacher ruth perry , who took her own life perry, who took her own life after a report downgraded her school . her sister, julie school. her sister, julie walters, says the government's response is woefully inadequate . response is woefully inadequate. a stabbing at a school in wales yesterday was reportedly halted when a heroic teacher intervened, placing the attacker intervened, placing the attacker in an arm lock. amman valley school was put into lockdown yesterday when a student allegedly attacked two teachers and a pupil. their injuries are not life threatening . darrell not life threatening. darrell campbell, a teacher and chairman of a local rugby club, reportedly disarmed the alleged attacker, putting her in an arm lock until emergency services arrived . the school will remain arrived. the school will remain closed today while forensic teams investigate it. the suspect remains in custody . the suspect remains in custody. the government is accusing labour of failing to keep britain safe after the party declined to support an increase in defence spending . the prime minister spending. the prime minister says £75 billion of new funding

will show our enemies that we are resolute and determined, but shadow financial secretary james murray says the government hasn't laid out a clear plan. while the size of britain's army has actually been reduced , it has actually been reduced, it government haven't set out their spending plans up to 2030. >> so if the government want to pubush >> so if the government want to publish their spending plans for 2030 and explain how they're going to get there, then we'll look at them, of course. and actually, i think that , you actually, i think that, you know, at the moment people are keen as well to judge the government by their record because they have been in power for 14 years. you know , we know for 14 years. you know, we know that over £15 billion has been wasted on mismanaged defence procurement since 2010. we know how much the army has been reduced . you know, people reduced. you know, people i think will look at the government's record over the last 14 years when considering how much they can trust any of the promises they are making now , the number of shoplifting offences recorded by police in england and wales has risen to the highest level in 20 years. >> over 430,000 offences were logged by forces last year.

that's up more than a third on the year before. it's the highest figure since current records began, according to the office for national statistics, which described the latest increase as notable . it comes increase as notable. it comes after major retailers raised concerns about the rising cost of theft . torfaen for the latest of theft. torfaen for the latest stories , sign up to gb news stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash shirts. now it's back to ben and . bev. to ben and. bev. >> good morning. it's 1106 to ben and. bev. >> good morning. it's1106 with britain's newsroom on gb news with me bev turner and ben lee are sitting here instead of andrew pierce. >> good morning to you. now the labour party, they're planning to renationalise the railways and what they're calling the biggest overhaul in a generation. >> parties pledging to transfer rail networks to public ownership within five years if elected. >> and they say their plan will not cost the taxpayer a penny in compensation costs .

compensation costs. >> so gb news political editor current political correspondent. thank you. katherine forster joins us now. catherine you were sat there this morning listening to this announcement from louise haigh, the shadow transport minister. what's the what are the put the meat on the bones of this story for us, if you would. >> yes. well, we've had a return to boldness in politics over the last few days, haven't we? we've had all this criticism for ages that there's really nothing to pick between the conservatives and labour. but we've had this big announcement today from the labour party about effectively renationalising the railways, and we had the big announcement two days ago from the prime minister on putting defence spending up. so some very clear dividing lines. but fundamentally what labour are saying they're going to do if they get into power is take back control of the railways. and as the railway companies franchises end, they simply won't be renewed . and they the government

renewed. and they the government will take them over and now the private the freight stock won't be affected. of course, the track is already owned by the government. so we're talking about passenger services here. and they will lease the rolling stock from private companies. so although no, there won't be upfront costs because these contracts simply will end and won't be rolled over, there's obviously going to be big costs in getting this all up and running and leasing the rolling stock, and we don't know what those costs are at the moment. so but louise hay basically saying that some privatised of the railways has failed, she's saying fares are up twice as much as wages. that strikes cost £25 million a day. she says that the railways are a symbol of national decline. she also pointed out that taxpayers are already stumping up some £4 billion a year to support the railways, and their plans are

that they will have, you know, rather than all these different departments, different companies, different ticketing opfions companies, different ticketing options , it will all be simpler. options, it will all be simpler. it will all be seamless. the sort of tap in, tap out that you get on the london underground, automatic cheapest fares, etc. so a big, big announcement, but some questions of course, how it's going to be paid for now. the transport secretary, mark harper, speaking in the last hour or so, is unimpressed. as you would expect . he's saying you would expect. he's saying these are unfunded spending promises that labour do not have a plan to pay for it. and he's also pointed out that the labour party and angela rayner specifically, are planning to bnngin specifically, are planning to bring in big changes to laws about workers rights, and he's saying it will undermine and undo all the work they've done around the unions in trying to minimise strikes. and that that

is going to come back to bite people. should labour get into power. >> thank you. thank you. catherine. katherine forster there. now we are joined, very happy to say by conservative mp for the isle of wight, bob seely. with us now bob, this news this morning about the trains, there are a lot of people in our inbox here @gbnews saying good, the trains are an absolute mess. they need to go back into public ownership. >> okay. catherine is spot on. bev by the way, good morning. good morning, catherine. spot on in what? she says you're beginning to see a political divide between labour and conservatives. i absolutely welcome that. so in the last week , what have we done? week, what have we done? spending more on defence? we are ending the sicknote culture and we are actually having an outlying some really good conservative policies. and what labouris conservative policies. and what labour is doing is going back to nationalisation. so i'm very happy to see that divide because i think we are dealing with issues and the labour party are effectively pleasing their corporate and their union paymasters. i see no evidence that anything that they are saying about nationalisation is unked saying about nationalisation is linked to improving services or

making fares more affordable. but why ? but why? >> why now are we seeing this divide between the two parties? because the british people aren't stupid . they know this is aren't stupid. they know this is all in reaction. it's all retroactively looking at what people want in the run up to a leadership. it just demonstrates that there's no values underpinning the policies. >> i disagree with that. okay. when it comes to the sicknote culture, personally, i would have loved to see us do this a yean have loved to see us do this a year, two years ago, but sometimes policies take longer than we would want. look at the changes we're making to leaseholds the freeholds, the renters (reform) bill going through yesterday. we want to keep small landlords on side, but we need to make sure that tenants are protected and sometimes bills take longer to push through than we would like. and things take longer to get done. >> isn't it just all too little, too late? there's months until an election. conservative voters have been demanding these kind of conservative policies for a long, long time, and they've been ignored. and now and now you're facing down the barrel of a gun. only now is rishi sunak reacting to it. and it just seems far too little, too late. >> no, i think look, we're

reacting to events. and actually one of the things we did from 2010 up to effectively the covid was do everything we could to make work, pay. and that's why you have so many people in work and a much higher percentage compared to many other nations on earth and many other nations in the eu . since covid, we've in the eu. since covid, we've had this growth of a sick note culture. it's always been there, but it's never been in anything like the numbers . so what you're like the numbers. so what you're saying is, you're assuming that this problem has been there for decades. this problem has been there for decades . it hasn't, you know, decades. it hasn't, you know, and it certainly hasn't been the priority. so we are dealing with things as they happen. i would i would love to us have done be doing this a year ago. i'm glad we're doing it. >> what about the railways? i mean, labour are taking first first steps on this to, you know, i get the train from the south coast £90 this morning to get from the south coast to london. okay. i was lucky to get the train because it's normally cancelled. i get the last train at night to go home called the vomit express. it's nickname, the safety on those trains. there's people mugging each other when they're asleep. there's people begging . the there's people begging. the state of the trains is atrocious, and the tories have done nothing to try and actually sorry since privatisation train use in this country has gone up

leaps and bounds because they're people are forced to, not because they want to. they're forced to because because you've had you've had an ethic where there's a profit motive. >> so people wanting to sell tickets okay. so we've had more tickets okay. so we've had more tickets and actually greater variation in fares as well . variation in fares as well. okay. the one thing i'm not seeing from labour in any conceivable way is why this will improve services. >> well, maybe it will work, but then presumably it's because it will take away some of that profit motive. the profit motive means that the customer has been at the mercy of shareholders of these . these. >> i'm sorry, another customer is going to be at the mercy of union bosses and bureaucrats. sorry. i mean, if people the train firms worked really hard to attract people onto trains. it used to be back in the old days of british rail . forget days of british rail. forget about the british rail sandwiches. you if a route was too popular, they would just cut back services because the taxpayer was picking up the loss all the time. the train. a lot of the train firms now wash

their face on an annual basis, not for investment, but for the running costs on many of them. these they are profitable because you have a motive where you've got you've got the bosses actually trying to sell tickets and trying to get people on the on the trains in the first place. okay. and i don't see in any way how labour is going to improve that just by by saying we're going to nationalise stuff. >> okay. let's get your thoughts on defence. one thing that tory voters have appreciated in the last few days is this massive defence bonanza. i think it's like 70, 80 billion, 5 billion over the next couple of years and cutting back on the civil service to pay for, yeah, 70,000 civil servants. so james murray from labour, he said this a bit earlier . earlier. >> well, you're absolutely right that we want to get to 2.5. what we've said is that in order to set out the pathway of how we get there, we need to be in government, because, you know, it's right that the opposition doesn't know all of the details about defence, about all of the information that the ministry of defence and so on, which is why we've said that if we get in, we would initiate a strategic defence and security review to

establish a threat to work out what we need to invest in to keep the nation safe . and that keep the nation safe. and that alongside the spending review, seeing what financial situation , seeing what financial situation, what financial mess frankly, we would inherit if we did win the next general election, then we can set out our pathway to that 2.5. so it's a clear commitment to get to that 2.5, but it's being responsible as well about from a position of opposition as saying how what we would need to do to work out the route to get there. >> that's quite difficult to fault, isn't it, bob? >> well, let me translate what james murray was saying is vote for us and we'll decide what to do when we're in office. that's not a great way to present yourself in a democracy . they yourself in a democracy. they should be saying, we are going to commit to this, and this is how or not. and the problem is they're clearly not committing and simply buying time because they're going to have yet another defence review. we had one last year. we need to get on and make these changes. one last year. we need to get on and make these changes . and the and make these changes. and the other element of this is that the civil service grew massively after brexit and after covid. we are now going to shrink the

civil service down by 72,000 jobs, 70,000 jobs and the money that we will save will be going on defence. we'll be going on not only just buying hard kit, but understanding the nature of war, how conflict is changing and how we can best prepare ourselves for what may come because we are living in a more dangerous world. >> the prime minister hasn't said exactly how much cutting those 70,000 jobs will save, but granted, it seems to be a popular policy. >> we had silkie carlo in here. i can't let you go, bob, without asking you this from big brother watch. and she's outraged. and her organisation, who are concerned with civil liberties, are outraged about the fact that the government are slipping through this legislation to spy on bank accounts. department of work and pensions under the auspices of stopping benefit fraud , but allowing fraud, but allowing unprecedented state power to look at what we all spend. okay, it's a really valid point. >> and when it comes to government power , you we all government power, you we all should be suspicious myself as well. yeah i would just say that if you have people carrying out large scale fraud, the same

people who may be concerned, including silkie carlo, are going to be saying, why , oh why going to be saying, why, oh why aren't we doing more to stop this theft of public money, of taxpayers money from folks on the isle of wight and everywhere else in the country that the theft of public money into these fraudsters who are scamming all of us. >> i think the argument is bob silky's argument anyway, is that the money recouped will only be, i think, 1 or 2, 3. right. and of what? >> of the fraud of a very , very >> of the fraud of a very, very large amount of money, but but huge sums in exchange for that, you're having the potential theft if you're going to keep along that theme of civil liberties, which is it worth it? >> is the risk reward worth it ? >> is the risk reward worth it? many people say it's not, you know, we don't want i don't want the government snooping in our bank accounts. >> we don't. but if you're taking something from the british taxpayer, i think the government, if it has , if the government, if it has, if the dwp believes that you are engaging in fraud , i think they engaging in fraud, i think they have the right to check your bank because one one that's with this, that's the suspicion of, of offence though, bob. >> like the idea that innocent until proven guilty. sorry ben.

innocent is proven guilty is so important but fine . if you have important but fine. if you have suspicion, then have the rights to look into somebody's bank account . but not all of us. account. but not all of us. blanket permission. no, no. >> hold on, if you are. if this is a designed. this is this is absolutely designed to clamp down on benefit fraud, which is a unfortunately a problem in this country and errors of payments. >> so what's hypothetically what's not to stop the government saying i want to look in this person's bank account. they claim benefits. let's accidentally pay them one month's pension credit. and that gives us the green light to go and look in their bank, i think. >> okay, i think that sounds a little bit conspiratorial. we live in a we live in a free society, ben. and actually, one of the ways that you keep government in check is that backbench mps from all parties keep an eye on what government's doing. we have a free media that keeps an eye on what government's doing. there's any number of lawyers keeping an eye on what government is doing. everyone is all over government to make sure it doesn't do the wrong thing. but actually the dwp has the right and should have the right to go in to look

in people's bank accounts if they suspect there is significant fraud or indeed errors because it's public money and actually i accept that and i accept that argument because if not, if we're losing billions to fraud, you you two will be saying to me, what on earth are you doing about it to stop all this money going in fraud? because we want lower taxes, we want to get the economy going. we've got to pay for the defence and schools and hospitals. >> and so there has to be a way. i just don't know why. whenever there's a problem, it's civil liberties. that is the answer. every time we have a problem, we're going to solve it by stripping you of the civil liberty. >> good to see you, bob seely there, mp for the isle of wight. now still to come, a group of top german footballers are planning to come out as gay next month on the international day against homophobia. does it matter? do any of you care ? and matter? do any of you care? and might british players do the same? >> interesting. you're with britain's newsroom on gb news. stay with us. back in the tech.

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welcome back. it's1122. ben and beth with you on britain's newsroom. only on gb news. also, carol maloney and scarlett mccgwire are back with us as well. hello, ladies. hello. returning let's get stuck into some of the stories doing the rounds today. some of the stories doing the rounds today . a big one from the rounds today. a big one from the last hour or so. so the s&p has ended its power sharing deal with the scottish greens over their climate strategy. it was called the bute house agreement. humza yousaf chiefs party has been accused of political cowardice and selling out the younger generations because, of course, they've rowed back on the scotland scottish net zero targets. >> yeah, he has , but what he's >> yeah, he has, but what he's doneis >> yeah, he has, but what he's done is quite childish. i think what he's done is he knows that the greens were going to withdraw from the coalition next week anyway, there was a there was going to be a big meeting and what he's done is actually told them to, to go away before they tell him to go away. so which means that it's interesting situation now that the snp now leads a minority government. i think they hold something like is it 69 seats in their majority? there's 129 seats. they hold 69 of them, so

that's going to make their life quite difficult now i think. but, he the deal this was the deal negotiated by sturgeon and who wanted to do it with the greens. and now we've seen the snp unravelling in the in the time that yusuf has been in charge. and this is just another nail in their coffin. i fear, scarlett humza yousaf in the days after rishi sunak rowed back on some of the uk's net zero targets, one being the ban on petrol and diesel cars , they on petrol and diesel cars, they pushed the date back to align with the eu. humza yousaf did a very massive virtue, signalling video saying that it was unforgivable that sunak would do this. he was, you know, destined to kill generations of people because of climate change. he's now done the same thing. is he the world's biggest hypocrite? >> well , i the world's biggest hypocrite? >> well, i mean, i think i think that nobody's going to believe anything that the snp say. i mean, what is the point that they were in coalition with the greens? they agreed to the green deal greens? they agreed to the green deal. and now and then they

pulled out of it, never quite giving a reason, actually , what giving a reason, actually, what what i think is that the greens should have learned from the coalition between the lib dems and, and the tories in 2010. is that actually when things go wrong, they blame the little party too. and that and that the greens will be blamed for all the snp woes and they should have got out a lot faster once, once they could see the snp unravelling because, i mean the, the snp are just going to lose. so much, that, that, that, that, that and the greens are going to be too associated with this. it'll be useful for labour don't you think though. >> oh, it's going to be great for labour. yeah, it's very good because now they're going to have the snp are going to have to cosy up to , to labour now as to cosy up to, to labour now as well. it's interesting. >> well no the snp will not cosy up to i mean i can tell you this is that there are there are people in scottish labour who would vote tory before snp. i mean the thing about power, it's power. >> skull . we all want power.

>> skull. we all want power. >> skull. we all want power. >> no, no it's no, it's about independence . and actually it's independence. and actually it's about the union and the scottish labour absolutely believe in the union and the snp don't and the greens don't. >> and it's interesting that a lot of the environmental groups have gone nuts today. friends of the earth called this the worst environmental decision ever. there's a group called the rainbow greens, which i had never heard of , it's a rainbow greens, which i had never heard of, it's a group of lgbt, members in the party, and they're the ones who wanted the greens to withdraw. they've been pushing. >> what do they call. sorry, the rainbow greens. they're called the rainbow greens. yes, yes. >> and, should we move on to this story from the telegraph today ? today? >> which about gillian keegan, education secretary, has said that she's going to stop using the phrase trans women are women, harold. what's she going to use instead ? to use instead? >> well, i don't know what she's going to say, but she was pushing this line. this is the line. the trans women are ones. there's always pushed by the trans activists . because what it trans activists. because what it doesisit trans activists. because what it does is it silences debate on this . and they try to silence

this. and they try to silence debate. but and of course, you know, gillian keegan was using this line for months and months and months ago. but now she says, and it's interesting . it says, and it's interesting. it comes on the heels of a acas report. she now says she's been educated by professionals, and she now it's crystal clear to her that, that what's been happening is an erosion of women's rights. and, i mean, it should have been screamingly obvious to her as a woman that that was the case. but anyway . that was the case. but anyway. but all of that said, and it sounds like i'm taking the mick out of it. but all of that said, i think it takes guts to say publicly that you've made a mistake. oh no, hang on, hang on, carol, sorry. >> you can't wes streeting has done the same thing . you can no done the same thing. you can no longer keep that position in light of the. she could she could have shut up, though. >> she could have said nothing and then just quietly changed. >> well, she's been in my she's been made to look a bit silly. scarlett, don't you think? same as wes streeting. the evidence was there in your face. you didn't need some in—depth report to show that the trans ideology that has been sweeping the uk has been a vast detriment to women's rights. well, you don't need experts to tell you that i

actually, i, i don't feel threatened by trans women . threatened by trans women. >> and i think it's really, really important and i, i think that that for too long trans women have been the butt of humour. they've been used that actually it's really hold on, carol, i'm allowed to say this. it's really, really important to remember that this is a tiny minority of, of the, of the public, very loud voice. the most actually most of them say nothing. most of them just want to live their lives that they were unhappy. what's going on in schools is completely different. i mean, what's going going on in schools is about young people in rebellion. and it's always been like that. and now they're choosing gender. but for most, for most , trans women, they just for most, trans women, they just want to be allowed to live their lives without being the butt of humour. and i just think gillian keegan never understands anything. >> no one would disagree with that. but i think i think the thing about the trans activist groups , they have infiltrated a groups, they have infiltrated a lot of our institutions, particularly the nhs , and they particularly the nhs, and they are, you know, people are angry

about this. and keegan has recognised that she's also under fire now because she published a guidance for schools in december last year saying that that things like pronouns should only be allowed , kids should only be be allowed, kids should only be allowed to use them in the most exceptional circumstances, and teaching unions and the transcripts are on her now like a rash, because they totally disagree with that. they want kids indoctrinated in schools that from a very early age. but but i think, you know, you're right. she should have known completely should have known. and that women's rights were being eroded. and maybe she's been told to do that. >> i've just i've just got an issue with these people talking after the fact and getting praise for it. after the fact and getting praise for it . ruth hunt, the praise for it. ruth hunt, the former ceo of stonewall, coming out in the sunday times, a weekend or two ago saying, well, you know, i advocated puberty blockers at the time , but i was blockers at the time, but i was listening to the experts. so, you know, that's my get out of jail free card. no, you are meant to be the cream of the crop of society. you're meant to be very intelligent people operating, you know, in a high performance environment . you're. performance environment. you're. gillian keegan is the education secretary. it should not take the cass review for you to realise what was going on was wrong. sorry >> yeah, very opinionated, but i

do think that we have to understand that there are the whole problem about trans is the polarisation. and on both ends it's terrible. i don't think jk rowling , i it's terrible. i don't think jk rowling, i mean, i think with her, i mean, i do find what she says really offensive. >> i find nothing offensive squad tell me one thing that was offensive and not true. >> i think she goes on and on on.she >> i think she goes on and on on. she does not go. she only goes. she does on and responds to attacks from. no, no, no, she she actually she actually begins it and she provokes it. and i and i actually think that what we need to do is we need to calm this debate down so that we actually can talk. we can talk really and we can say to the both sides, just shut up and let's, let's actually talk about this so that we can have a proper conversation about women in sport, where obviously trans women should not be allowed to be in women's sports . be in women's sports. >> i just want to take on jk rowling. she she never started any of this. in fact, if jk rowling hadn't been as rich and as influential as she is, she

would have been a broken, ruined woman by now. it's only because of her position she's been able to resist the death threats, the constant hate, the constant abuse that she gets, the vile abuse that she gets, the vile abuse to her and her family. she she drinks. she does not provoke. she simply said, you know, a woman is a woman. this she was talking about women . she she was talking about women. she was saying whatever, we know what she was doing. i feel a little bit the thing the trouble with this debate and i think where i share your view, ben, about the fact that there's so many people now suddenly flip flopping on this issue , is that flopping on this issue, is that everyone's been frightened about what other people think of them. >> everyone's been all these politicians have been frightened to say the wrong thing in case they step out of that small kind of overton window of what is acceptable to say. and it suddenly just feels like they all blow in the wind and suddenly the cast reports come out and now they can say what they say. oh, well, i felt this all along. i like the input of experts. i'm a little bit with you. i like the fact that we have a report that has been looked into, but six out of the seven clinics wouldn't even cooperate. oh no , that doesn't cooperate. oh no, that doesn't tell you what's going on with some of the trans industrial. and actually, look, it's completely you're absolutely right. >> i mean , and it is a gut thing

>> i mean, and it is a gut thing that puberty blockers are wrong because what are you doing ? because what are you doing? giving something to young people who, you know , we have no idea who, you know, we have no idea whether i mean, what what they need is, is a therapist right to listen and to find out what's real and what's not, why they hate themselves so much that they want to be a different genden they want to be a different gender. precisely. >> thank you so much, ladies. scarlett. carole malone, lovely to see you both now. still to come a lot more this morning. first though, your very latest news. sophia is waiting patiently for us. here she is . patiently for us. here she is. >> bev. thank you. it's 1132. >> bev. thank you. it's1132. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . your headlines. former newsroom. your headlines. former post office head of partnership angela van der borgudd has said she is truly sorry for the devastation caused to wrongly convicted subpostmasters. she told the post office horizon it inquiry this morning that she hopes her evidence will give all those wrongfully convicted the

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of votes. and now each issue they're going to hobble on as a minority government, limping on until that election will they be able to do so? will they be able to pass a budget if they can't pass a budget? could there be an early election in scotland ? early election in scotland? could humza yousaf be shown the door sooner than everyone thought ? yes. thought? yes. >> humza yousaf is saying that opposition parties , they must be opposition parties, they must be constructive with us. they must help us with our agenda. all of them are saying absolutely not. this is humiliating defeat for humza yousaf. >> tom, a question for you. where did it go wrong for the snp? was it the gender recognition bill maybe an issue that you and i probably differ on? >> well, i don't know. i think obviously that was something that was a little bit i think that was a little bit i think that was a little bit i think that was that was obviously something that was part of the agreement between the greens and the snp in to , order to sort of the snp in to, order to sort of build this coalition agreement. it got kiboshed by westminster and the snp are now sort of not putting it forward that, of course , created some friction course, created some friction between the snp and the greens, but i think much, much bigger than that was what happened last week, which is the snp formally

rowed back from their net zero strategy. they had what they were boasting was the most ambitious net zero strategy in the world, 75% clean energy by 2030. now they've ditched that target, perhaps because they've run into the realities of what it takes to deliver it. but obviously that's created much more friction as well. so it's not just the social issues. it's also the fact of sort of, hard economic policy and energy policy, all of these things they've been rubbing up against each other, not least there are some crucial snp seats up in and around aberdeen that rely on the oil and gas industry. the new snp leader in westminster, he's quite pro oil and gas did not sit nice with the greens. >> indeed they, they weren't happy, let's say. >> sounds like a cracking show. tune in from 12. >> we've got some breaking news. well it's a little distracted there. ooh so we're bringing you some pictures now donald trump is greeting the public on his journey into court, here we are. of course, this is about whether he is going to be able to,

effectively , be immune to this effectively, be immune to this election interference case, isn't it? this is what he's there for, obviously incredibly popular. still with the public, some of the public, in america, these pictures here live from new york as trump heads into court. >> and there were some quite damning polling data that was released last night. so donald trump is now more trusted than joe biden to stand up to the usa's foreign foes. joe biden to stand up to the usa's foreign foes . and usa's foreign foes. and nationally, he's been surging ahead , in the polls yet. so, ahead, in the polls yet. so, i mean, people like to make out online, especially that there's some close race where, you know, biden is a couple of points behind in actual fact, it looks like, according to the polling data, that donald trump, despite all the controversy, the criminal cases , the civil cases, criminal cases, the civil cases, the court action, it looks like he could still be on his way to getting a second time in the white house. >> that's right. okay. we're going to take a quick break now, emily and tom, we'll be back here from midday with more on that as well.

good morning. at 1142, with britain's newsroom on gb news. with me, bev turner and ben leo sitting here for andrew. >> peace. good. right now, a group of top footballers are planning to come out as gay next month. the group has made plans to publicly declare their sexual orientation on the 17th of may, which is the international day against homophobia. >> that's right, german news outlets are reporting that all of the player's clubs are aware of the player's clubs are aware of the player's clubs are aware of the planned proposal . so of the planned proposal. so joining us live from sunningdale is award winning football journalist harry harris. good morning harry. good morning. good to see you. some people are getting in touch with the program this morning and saying, why does this matter? we don't care anymore. we live in enlightened times. it's not the 1960s. nobody cares if footballers are gay. >> yeah, well, you know, a few might, but, you can see why, footballers , particularly in footballers, particularly in this country, are fearful of coming out as gay.

this country, are fearful of coming out as gay . and i'm sure coming out as gay. and i'm sure there's quite a few of them who are gay. >> but, you know, they will suffer a deluge of social media abuse. >> they would have to face the stigma and the fear of what the fans reactions would be. >> you know, the taunts from the fans, opposing fans in particular, all that kind of reaction , is so negative, even reaction, is so negative, even in an era where we have so much inclusion, but not enough in my view. but we have some, is a deterrent for anyone to come out as gay here. >> harry, do our football authorities need to do more to stamp out homophobia? maybe in the same way they currently do with racism , well, football with racism, well, football authorities, we've gone down that track before. you know, who actually runs the game? who's really dictating, say, the premier league, for example . premier league, for example. well, exactly, you pointing question, you know , they're not question, you know, they're not running the game. they're just, you know, out for their own needs within the 20 clubs, which

actually run the premier league. so these kind of issues , we're so these kind of issues, we're talking about a government football regulator that's the kind of thing we really need in football. >> sorry to interject my point being they still take the knee for black lives matter, which you know, is a campaign that, wants to defund the police, bnng wants to defund the police, bring down the west is against capitalism. they still do that. so they've got the will and the means to keep that campaign going, under the guise of stopping racism. of course, we all want that. why can't we do it with homophobia , which some it with homophobia, which some would argue is a more pressing issue? well because even with racism taking a knee, a lot of people think that's a total waste of time. >> now, you know, it really isn't . there's no one really isn't. there's no one really running the game. the fa, the premier league, they're both at each other's throats, i mean, what what we need is, someone to actually implement some positive policies, and it's really just down to individual clubs that are doing it . are doing it. >> it is fascinating, harry, that football remains the last bastion, doesn't it really, of

homophobia . i mean, we live in, homophobia. i mean, we live in, as i say, very enlightened times. you just don't even raise an eyebrow anymore about somebody's sexual ity. and yet football does still feel like the one place that players are frightened to come out. is it? is it? why is that ? is it? why is that? >> well, you're absolutely right. well, i'll give you a little exclusive. you know, i was, researching my book, about racism in particular. and i spoke to the, west ham owner and chairman, david sullivan, and this is why some people are enlightened, i asked him about thomas hasselberger, who, of course, was the first came out gay in this country, a german international footballer, and, asked him , you know, did he know asked him, you know, did he know he was gay before he signed him? and he said , yes. i invited him and he said, yes. i invited him to my home for a party, and i asked him outright why he didn't have a girlfriend, and he confessed to me that he was gay. you know, i have liberal views. he could see i had liberal views. i was comfortable with it. i knew he was gay and i

signed it. but that isn't a universal policy within football. it'sjust universal policy within football. it's just david sullivan was very much like alan sugan sullivan was very much like alan sugar. he's very gruff, but he's very direct. but he has some great views about the game , and great views about the game, and people like that in fact, should be running the game. but at the moment no one's running the game, so asking for these kind of policies is just, you know, sky in the pie in the sky. >> i'm thinking of other sports as well , like >> i'm thinking of other sports as well, like olympic >> i'm thinking of other sports as well , like olympic sports, as well, like olympic sports, maybe where there weren't athletes out for many years as being gay. tom daley came out as gay. mark foster , the swimmer, gay. mark foster, the swimmer, also came out as gay, it feels like in those sports it did take a very long time. they were worried about brands dropping them, maybe, but we just don't live in that age anymore. i don't think nike, adidas is any of the sports brands would be. >> i think it would be a benefit would be exactly. from a marketing perspective . marketing perspective. >> well, you look at david beckham and his allegiance or sometimes not allegiance when he goes out to qatar, but whatever

it is, you know, he had some support for what we're talking about and it wasn't detrimental to his brand at all. no, i think you you think we're in an enlightened age, but in football it's still the dark ages . it's still the dark ages. >> extraordinary. well, this is happening in germany, harry, isn't it? and it may, who knows? start a domino effect of other professional leagues around the world, having making these players come out in the same way. harry harris award winning. >> i wouldn't count on it in this country, though. >> no, you might be right. this country, though. >> no, you might be right . well, >> no, you might be right. well, i thought i thought it would, but having spoken to you, you know a lot more about football than i do, harry. let me tell you, you might be right. thank you. >> thanks, harry. it is such a shame because i personally know of many backroom staff at premier league clubs, even some players who are gay. the staff, the clubs, the people who work in the clubs have no problem with it . why should they? with it. why should they? i think the issue is the terraces. i live in brighton. i've seen quite a few brighton hove albion games. of course the city with a big gay demographic, they call it the gay capital of europe and the chance from fans to brighton fans at brighton games are,

quite frankly, disgusting homophobic chanting pretty much week in, week out. so i think that's where the issue is. it's the fear from the terraces. >> amazing, right? let us know all of your thoughts this morning. you have been getting in touch. we have been reading them. we haven't read that many out , so far. them. we haven't read that many out, so far. but we aren't. we aren't quite done with you yet. we're here until midday. don't go anywhere with britain's newsroom on .

gb news. >> 1151 you're with ben gb news. >> 1151you're with ben and bev on britain's newsroom. lots of your emails come in, and we are now going to get to them. we promise. we've been meaning to all show , so let's get stuck in. all show, so let's get stuck in. >> that's right. patricia has said. who cares if they're gay, straight, trans or whatever? it's really not important. not worthy of any discussion. this is about footballers the german football league are going to have a load of gay players come out on one day on anti—homophobia day , and we were anti—homophobia day, and we were just discussing whether that might happen here as well, danny

said the same thing if a footballer wants to come out, surely that's their choice . they surely that's their choice. they should feel free to do so if they want to. nothing to do with me what their choices are. i certainly don't see why it's newsworthy. >> yes , on railways, labour, of >> yes, on railways, labour, of course, planning to renationalise the railways, they say. frederick says the last time the railways were in public ownership, you were held to ransom by the unions and the government did nothing. and on football, avril says, why do people have to shout it from the rooftops? we don't need to know about your sex life. i don't think they're quite shouting it from the rooftops. i think it's just, the they want the ability to just be there, what some would call i don't like the tum, but their authentic self without maybe getting abused from the terraces. >> yeah, nick has got in touch saying it's humza useless. and his court of gestures . this is his court of gestures. this is about the collapse of the collaboration between them and the green party . this guy has the green party. this guy has more skin in the game. i can't read that out. carry on, on labour alley, you say? good morning, ali. our labour being a bit coy about where all this money is going to come from

because of their plan to roll out ulez across the country , and out ulez across the country, and they know how many voters are very anti. you >> and a lot of you are getting in touch with this story that silkie carlo from big brother watch came in to talk about earlier, which is about the government just surreptitious getting in legislation under the auspices of being able to look at people who would benefit, cheats, bank accounts, but being able to look at all of your bank accounts , danny has said accounts, danny has said targeting benefits claimants first because they're not an asset contributing tax. so looking for any reason to lessen the payments. self—employed in small businesses next than everybody else, on breast cancen everybody else, on breast cancer, dickie says my late wife survived breast cancer the day after getting her five year all clear. she was diagnosed with a highly aggressive bladder cancen highly aggressive bladder cancer. wow. i'm sorry to hear that. and she passed away eight weeks later. >> sorry to hear that. and margaret said about the benefits, bank account story. it starts off with people on benefits. it's nothing to do with fraud. the real aim is to have access to all bank accounts. the question is, though, why ? and jennifer said though, why? and jennifer said the biggest fraudsters are the elites. how about looking into

how they accumulate so much money in a short period of time? mps have been caught out many times , but not one of them seems times, but not one of them seems to get prosecuted. >> more billionaires made in the post covid months than at any time before. what does that say? >> one rule for them and another for us, she says. it is a big club . club. >> all right. thank you for watching. it's been a pleasure. thank you for all your comments. thank you for all your comments. thank you for your company. and yeah, here's good afternoon, britain with tom and emily. >> is today the day that numbered the days of humza yousaf as first minister of scotland ? with his coalition scotland? with his coalition deal now in tatters, he limps on as a minority prime minister. how long will he last? >> yes. and after the triple stabbing in a school in wales, we're asking what on earth is going on? should there be security at our schools made mandatory? why are children stabbing each other? >> all that to come here on. good afternoon britain. don't go anywhere . anywhere. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb

views. >> hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. it should brighten up for many northern areas through the rest of the day, but it will remain fairly cloudy in the southeast. that's because a weather front has been pushing along the southeast through out this morning . that's bringing the morning. that's bringing the cloudier skies. it's fairly weak feature by the time we get to this afternoon, but it will continue to bring quite a lot of cloud around to many southern areas of england and the southeast. that's where we could see some drizzly rain, particularly along the coast. elsewhere it should stay dry through this afternoon and there will be a good deal of sunshine for north and western areas northern ireland, western scotland , northwestern wales as scotland, northwestern wales as well seeing highs of 15 or 16 degrees in the sheltered sunshine. not bad at all, but if you are exposed to this northerly wind along the east coast, you're certainly going to nofice coast, you're certainly going to notice a chill in the air and there will be quite a bit more cloud around these areas as we lead into tonight as well. that cloud will continue to pull in off the north sea, keeping the skies a little cloudier all

along the east coast. we'll continue to see some cloud, mainly across parts of wales. southern england too , but across southern england too, but across the north—west clear skies will lead to another very chilly start . we could be down as low start. we could be down as low as minus four rurally, so a bit of a patchy frost is expected for western areas throughout wednesday. it will be a chilly start but quite a bright start. there'll be more in the way of sunshine. still, much of the sunshine. still, much of the sunshine will be restricted to western areas of the country and the far north, while the east still have this onshore wind, bringing in more in the way of cloud and the risk of showers and that chillier feel. so temperatures closer to 8 or 9 in the east and closer to 15 in the west. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

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april. >> scottish government collapsed . humza yousafs power sharing agreement has fallen apart, leaving the snp limping on alone. the first minister says the move is an act of leadership. the scottish greens say it's political cowardice. >> full steam ahead. labour say they'll renationalise the railways if they get into power. but do you trust keir starmer to run the trains on time , and run the trains on time, and should the army still be using horses ? horses? >> we'll debate this as two household cavalry horses remain in a serious condition after they bolted through central london yesterday, and england is apparently the worst in the world for underage drinking . world for underage drinking. >> that's according to a new study from the world health organisation. but just what is it actually measuring? and how seriously should we be taking these findings?

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