>> a very good afternoon to you. it's 3 pm. or welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news. and we're broadcasting live from the heart of westminster. all across the uk. on today's show, we'll get an update on that breaking story in south wales, a school is in lockdown following reports of a school stabbing. three people have been injured and one has been arrested. we'll have all the all the latest. elsewhere, three people have been arrested after five migrants died in the latest channel tragedy yesterday. and now it's emerged that french police stood by and simply allowed a dinghy crammed with a record 112 people to set sail for england and then the navy gave it an escort. the big question today is, is it time to pull the plug on the hundreds of millions of pounds we pay the french every year .7 next up, french every year? next up, after weeks of the metropolitan police being accused of soft soaping pro—palestine protests yesterday , riot police and yesterday, riot police and mounted cops steamed into a

saint george's day parade. and then they closed all the pubs in then they closed all the pubs in the area. i know because i was here. is this final proof of two tiered policing in britain and believe me, you will not want to miss this fantastic story. we'll meet the man who served in the special forces during the second world war. he's been celebrating his 102nd birthday in style. look at him. he looks younger than me. and that's all coming up in your next hour. i want to show always a delight to have your company, sir. yesterday we saw scenes of the saint george's day rally and the police tooled up. they got on their horses, they got their riot shields out . they got their riot shields out. they got their batons out. in a way, we would simply never, ever see on a pro—palestine march by the way, there's yet another one of those happening in about two hours time, right outside here. then they close all the pubs and

i'll be asking the question, is this now turning into a class war on the white working classes, i'll be joined by a barrister who thinks precisely that. barrister who thinks precisely that . get in touch with your that. get in touch with your views. do you think yesterday was a new low in policing? send your views, post your comments by visiting gbnews.com/yoursay. but before all of that, it's your headlines and it's sophia wenzler. >> thank you martin. good afternoon from the gb newsroom at 3:00. your headlines. three men have been arrested following the deaths of five migrants, including a young girl in the engush including a young girl in the english channel. yesterday, the national crime agency says they were arrested on suspicion of facilitating illegal immigration and entering the uk illegally. those detained include two sudanese men, aged 22 and 19, and a 22 year old south sudan national. it comes as figures from the home office show more than 400 migrants crossed the

channel yesterday . three people channel yesterday. three people have been injured in a reported stabbing at a secondary school. police say one person has been arrested after the incident at amman valley school. it's now in lockdown amid reports that a teacher is one of those who've been injured. parents are reporting a large police presence in the area with two helicopters at the scene. the prime minister expressed shock at the news and the home secretary says he's being kept informed to other news. now the deputy prime minister took aim at labour for failing to back the government's increased spending on defence standing in for rishi sunak, who's in germany, oliver dowden began today's pmqs with a joke aimed at the labour deputy's tax affairs, suggesting she might claim the house of commons as her main residence. on the matter of defence. however, mr dowden said labour had been silent on whether it backs investment in the armed forces. >> an increasingly dangerous world. the prime minister was

able to announce his plan for the biggest strengthening of defence spending in a generation , but it should come as no surprise that the party opposite refused to say whether they back it or not, because this comes from the right hon. lady who voted to scrap trident and install in downing street someone who wanted to change the army into a peace corps. there you have it. >> angela rayner hit back, though, saying that mr dowden had been obsessing over her living arrangements while the government quietly cuts funds for the army . for the army. >> princess is that we haven't cut the army to its smallest size since napoleon . and, mr size since napoleon. and, mr speaken size since napoleon. and, mr speaker, i read with interest that the right honourable gentleman has been urging his neighbour in number 10 to call an election because he's worried they might get wiped out. has he finally realised that when he stabbed boris johnson in the back to get his main into number 10, he was ditching their

biggest election winner for a pint size loser. >> meanwhile, the prime minister says britain will continue offering what he called unwavering support for ukraine as he appeared next to his german counterpart in berlin this afternoon . this afternoon. >> it is a war rages on our continent and new threats are rising around the world. and olaf, i want to congratulate you on your leadership in recognising the zeit and vendor and you taking the historic decision to increase germany's defence spending. and we stand here today together as the leading defence spenders in europe, unshakeable nato allies and the two largest military supporters of ukraine in europe. and together we will continue to provide unwavering support for our ukrainian friends. as you said , for as long as it takes. said, for as long as it takes. >> meanwhile, in the us, the senate voted overwhelmingly to pass a long awaited aid package for ukraine. israel and taiwan.

it's expected to be quickly signed by president biden, ending months of uncertainty over whether the united states would continue supporting kyiv. it comes after the bill passed the house of representatives on saturday in a show of bipartisan support, despite considerable resistance among some republicans. ukraine's president zelenskyy says it reinforces the us as a beacon of democracy. the former leader of the democratic unionist party, sir jeffrey donaldson, has been released on bail. northern ireland's longest serving mp was suspended from the dup following his arrest last month for what's being described as historical sex charges , including one count of charges, including one count of rape. his wife has also been charged with aiding and abetting in relation to the same investigation . in his investigation. in his resignation letter, he said he would be strenuously contesting the allegations . several the allegations. several military horses on the loose in central london this morning have now been contained. video posted to social media appeared to show

one of the animals covered in blood. at least four people were injured as the animals galloped their way through the busy city streets . westminster police say streets. westminster police say they'll now be transported by car . for the latest story, sign car. for the latest story, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now it's back to . martin. now it's back to. martin. >> thank you sophia. now we start with this afternoon's breaking news. and three people have been injured in a reported stabbing incident at a school in carmarthenshire in south—west wales. one person has been arrested and i'm joined now by our homeland security editor, mark white. mark, i believe you have an update for us on this story. >> yeah, just a word. now that's come out from the school, almond valley school in ammanford, saying that you will be aware of the incident that has taken place at the school today. the

family members of all the injured persons have been informed. it says we would look to reassure parents and the pubuc to reassure parents and the public that the incident is contained so that significant in that, of course, there are lots of worried parents. they were in the hundreds. i think they've reduced a bit now who were outside the school gates for some time, very concerned that their loved ones might have been caught up in this incident. but the school confirming to those parents that anyone who was directly caught up in this, their family members, have been informed . so if they haven't informed. so if they haven't been informed. the inference, of course, is that your loved ones are safe. but a worrying time, of course, for those parents and also for relatives and friends of members of staff. as the reports that we're getting is that two members of staff may have been injured and a third

person injured, we're told that one person has been arrested and is in police custody at this time. depher powys police say that they are not looking for anyone else in connection with this incident. we heard from one of the school governors as well, who was as well as confirming those reports that she had heard about two members of staff being injured. also saying that the school has rehearsed, quite , school has rehearsed, quite, frequently. lockdown procedures aside, reflection, of course, of the times we live in, we are more than aware of lockdown procedures in the likes of the us, where they have a very significant gun crime problem and mass school shootings . but and mass school shootings. but clearly, even here in the uk , clearly, even here in the uk, schools now alive to the potential threat out there and rehearse those lockdown procedures . well, martin, we're procedures. well, martin, we're told that the pupils are still being held in their classrooms at the moment. now, the reason

we understand that this is happening is because investigators are now going from classroom to classroom and speaking to those people. so it may be some time before those pupils are released and able to rejoin their families again. but a very significant and worrying incident that unfolded at this secondary school in ammanford with, we're told, two air ambulances that responded to the scene, along with multiple paramedic vehicles and other police resources that has now all been contained. the injured have been removed from the scene and one person is in custody . and one person is in custody. >> mark, what a harrowing story. welsh first minister vaughan gething has said. this is a deeply worrying incident and andrew rt davies, leader of the welsh conservatives, called it extremely concerning. mark white thank you very much for that full update with all the latest there from that wales school

stabbing. we'll of course have the regular updates on that very worrying incident throughout the show . but next to the news that show. but next to the news that three men have been arrested after five channel migrants, including a child, died yesterday , the national crime yesterday, the national crime agency has confirmed the men were arrested on suspicion of facilitating illegal immigration and entering the uk illegally, and entering the uk illegally, and the men were two sudanese nationals aged 22 and 19 and a south sudan national who is 22. well, yesterday's tragedy came at a time when there is increasing violence among migrants and people smugglers in northern france, and the uk is committed to giving france more than £670 million between 2018 and 2026, in a bid to tackle the migrant crisis. but 402 people crossed the channel yesterday alone. well, i'm joined now by peter allen, who's a journalist based in paris. peter, welcome to the show . incredibly to the show. incredibly concerning scenes yesterday and

reports emerging that, 50 people were on the dinghy, an extra 62 then rampaged onto the craft , then rampaged onto the craft, causing it to partially capsize. but the most concerning report we're hearing, peter, is that the french police simply stood by and did nothing, which of course asks the huge question why on earth are we sending millions and millions of pounds to france if nothing is happening to deter these people from coming over ? from coming over? >> well, quite. >> well, quite. >> martin, there's shock and anger here about what's happened. these incidents have become all too frequent. it was only in january that five migrants died off exactly the same beach near boulogne sur mer. but what was particularly horrific about yesterday is exactly as you say. there was a skirmish before hand on the beach. the picture i've got of what happened is that there were people , including women and people, including women and children, on the boat, and

suddenly a gang of young men ran down the beach to effectively want to take the place of the women and children and their husbands, for example. and that's where the real trouble started . and the police did what started. and the police did what they always do over here, which is throw a tear gas canisters out. what that's going to do to stop people jumping onto a boat, i don't know, it didn't work in this case. and on the contrary, there was some very serious violence on the beach. and then once the gang was in the water, the french police withdrew completely and left these young men to get on the boat. completely and left these young men to get on the boat . and then men to get on the boat. and then what did we have? potentially murders martin? i mean, i'm speaking as strongly as that because that's the word that's being used at the moment. these men were absolutely determined to make sure they had a place on that boat, and they didn't care who had to come off because they wanted that place . there's a wanted that place. there's a picture after this horrific

incidence, would you believe , of incidence, would you believe, of this boat sailing to britain with all these young men sitting on the side, punching the air, cheering about what's happened and saying, look, we've got our place, we're on the way to england. and would you believe it? they're being escorted by the french navy up until the line in the channel which the demarcation line between britain and french waters . and then the and french waters. and then the british authorities, take take them on and take them to england. i was speaking to the state prosecutor here yesterday evening, and he suggested that those responsible for this appalling tragedy might well be claiming asylum in britain today. that could be what happened has happened, although we have heard of these arrests now in britain, of course, as well, martin and peter, we are seeing pictures on screen now of that rescue mission of that dinghy coming over towards dover i >> -- >> and another astonishing point, peter, is that when the police intervened, when the

craft was still quite close to the shore , when this capsize the shore, when this capsize happened and the skirmish occurred, the next thing that happenedis occurred, the next thing that happened is that 48 migrants were returned to france. presumably those are the ones who've been shoved off this dinghy , but 58 simply refused to dinghy, but 58 simply refused to leave that dinghy despite what had happened. despite the fatalities. and then peter the french navy escorted them towards british waters . towards british waters. astonishing. when you think we're paying for this , it's we're paying for this, it's astonishing, martin, and it's utterly macabre . utterly macabre. >> can you imagine? it was so obviously a crime scene. you say, quite rightly, that people were taken off the boat and returned to bologna . among those returned to bologna. among those taken off were five dead people, including a young child, aged between 4 and 7. we don't know her full identity at the moment, but aged around that age, her father fell into the arms of, charity workers when he got to

the shore and said, i've not only just seen my daughter dying in front of me, but i've also seen men who've taken her place in the boat , travelling off to in the boat, travelling off to england with big smiles on their faces . can you believe a more faces. can you believe a more macabre, horrific situation? and as you say, they were travelling to england with the help of the french authorities and then the british authorities, treated just like normal people who wanted to get over no concern at all for the people they've left behind. the five dead people they've left behind, unbelievable scenes . martin. unbelievable scenes. martin. >> so, peter, the scene you're explaining there is not only horrific , but it paints a horrific, but it paints a picture of somebody who's potentially responsible, certainly in the eyes of the father of the girl who died responsible for that death, who simply sailed into britain , now

simply sailed into britain, now in custody, that the next question is then can that father give evidence, identify this person? can we can we take this case forward? this is an astonishing revelation, peter allen. >> it really is . the whole thing >> it really is. the whole thing is very, very complicated. martin over here there is a judicial inquiry into what's happened.a judicial inquiry into what's happened. a prosecutor in boulogne has opened an inquiry into manslaughter. boulogne has opened an inquiry into manslaughter . that's the into manslaughter. that's the charge at the moment. that can be changed. at the moment it's a charge of manslaughter against people unknown. that means that they will be trying to make arrests over here. there have been some arrests in connection with this incident, but we don't know at the moment whether their alleged, people have carried out manslaughter or there are people who helped launch the boat. we don't know that at the moment. these inquiries can take a very, very long time. anything up to two years sometimes. and they are often become incredibly complicated when they become

cross—channel inquiries. the british and the french don't have a great record of working together to bring criminals to justice. in this kind of a way, you would hope in a situation like this, when you're dealing with five deaths, things might be speeded up, cooperation might be speeded up, cooperation might be a lot better , but i wouldn't be a lot better, but i wouldn't hold my breath. we've got to see what's going to happen. but as i say, an inquiry has been launched over here, and you would hope that it will be in conjunction with the british martin, peter allen, incredible stuff, a manslaughter case has been launched in france and perhaps the people responsible for that are now in britain in custody here because they were simply waved across the channel by the french peter allen. incredible stuff. thank you so much for joining incredible stuff. thank you so much forjoining us on the show much for joining us on the show from paris today, ou. now it's the final week to see how your next holiday could be on us, with your chance to win a greek

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>> continuing coverage live from thursday the 2nd of may at midnight on . gb news. midnight on. gb news. >> welcome back. it's 324. i'm martin daubney and this is gb news. now let's get more on rishi sunaks visit to berlin, announcing more security cooperation with germany. and of course, it follows yesterday's announcement on a huge increase in uk defence spending. the prime minister said the uk and germany will provide unwavering support for ukraine and urged other european countries to stand against russian aggression. well, i'm joined now in our studio in westminster by our political editor, christopher hope. chris, welcome always a delight. so yesterday we got the numbers 75 billion, in additional funding today for a strengthening of the alliance with the germans, rishi sunak calling it a new chapter. the biggest strengthening of our national defence in a generation

and an historic warming to the germans. >> that's right. and one of the big, big, big press conferences for the pm to do with the chancellor of germany , i think chancellor of germany, i think it was him almost reclaiming the right to be the foreign affairs spokesman for this country. he's succeeded that , hasn't he, to succeeded that, hasn't he, to david cameron in recent months. his last trip overseas was to egypt. his last trip overseas was to egypt- l his last trip overseas was to egypt. i think for the cop, the cop climate a summit which i went to with with the prime minister, not egypt, the middle east, with the prime minister, but it's clear that he is. he was out there. he was on the front foot. he was quizzed in the questions after, how can you spend all this money on the defence? can you keep cutting taxes? he said, yes. he said, this is a funded plan. i'll cut the civil service headcount to make this country safer. i mean, it's kind of the tory mps are cooing with delight, liking , cooing with delight, liking, like having their tummies tickled like big, big pussycats overin tickled like big, big pussycats over in house the pump. they are delighted with this. labour hasn't got an answer so far. earlier, emily thornberry, who's the shadow attorney general? she

was quizzed by this very fact for our breakfast programme . for our breakfast programme. here's what she had to say. >> said several weeks ago that we wanted to move towards spending 2.5% on defence and indeed when we were in power last, that was about the amount of money that we were spending. but we will do it as as circumstances allow. we will be looking with some interest at whether or not the government produces any details in relation to this, because, you know, the prime minister yesterday essentially committed to spending another £75 billion on defence by 2030. so they produced this 22 page document and not a single line of it was on where the money was coming from. now, hopefully it'll come in the near future, just like we're hoping that they're going to give us the details on the £46 billion that it's going to cost them to get rid of national insurance. they haven't given us any details on that either. i mean, as we get closer to an election, we're going to get more and more of this, you know, and i know that your programme will hold the government to account in the way that you hold us to account, and that if

people want to say they want to spend money, they need to tell us where the money is going to come from, because in the end, it's the public that needs to spend to pay for it. >> well, she's changed her tune because 12 days ago it was labour saying , we will because 12 days ago it was labour saying, we will commit 2.5% gdp to defence. that's what rishi sunak did yesterday. now she's saying that's we won't do that. >> well, the difference is labouris >> well, the difference is labour is saying when it's affordable because they're very nervous about spending money that they haven't got, and they can be accused of being profligate with our money if they become the government. rishi sunak says his plan is costed and he's set the set the costs out and the terms out. and that means he can say, look, here are my workings . where are here are my workings. where are labour workings? labour is saying, wait till you have a spending review on defence in the first year of a labour government and then we'll work it out. so you have got a clear dividing line, martin. if the election vote, tory will guarantee getting to 2.5% by 2030. and here are workings . 2030. and here are workings. labour can't say that. and that's a problem for labour at the moment. i think because it's funny because emily thornberry there was like saying, well this

is uncosted they can't afford it. >> that sounds like what normally the conservatives say. well, you know, the other way around. >> she, she attacked the tory party over their plans to get rid of the national insurance, saying it's 46 billion. to be fair to the tory party, were they here, they would say, well, that's an ambition. at some point in the next few parliaments. it's not really a set in stone thing. this is a set in stone thing. this is a set spending plan for the next 5 or 6 years from the pm and it has, i think, caught labour napping slightly. it hasn't gone as far as 3% of gdp, just 2.5, which grant shapps is calling for the defence secretary. as recently as last month, in a daily mail. so but it is it is showing clear ambition . when showing clear ambition. when bofis showing clear ambition. when boris johnson announced it in 2022, there was no idea of how to get there. differences. here's a plan of action and sad news. >> we must mark the passing of frank field, kwasi multi—generational labour luminaire. what i was struck by today chris, everywhere you looked in from the telegraph , looked in from the telegraph, the express, you know, the true blue tory media, everybody

saying kind words about frank field . field. >> yeah. he reached across the divide in a way that few politicians can do. he's a kind of politician. you can imagine , of politician. you can imagine, a statue going up for him in his birkenhead seat. the representative for 40 years died age 81, minister under tony blair's government . age 81, minister under tony blair's government. he was urged to think the unthinkable, famously by tony blair on welfare reform. the labour didn't quite like what they came up with. i mean , he was up with. i mean, he was basically a true free thinker , basically a true free thinker, he didn't like food banks. he fought very hard for getting more money for the poor. he thought he worked hard on the food bank agenda . yeah, i food bank agenda. yeah, i certainly a few times when i was at the telegraph , a truly great at the telegraph, a truly great man, respected across the board and much missed and lots and lots of anecdotes across the board today of members of the pubuc board today of members of the public who said that they approached him on a train or in the streets, both in, in birkenhead or in london, on his way down here. >> and all of them said that he always took the time to chat to

them about politics, was convivial, was always impeccably dressed , even in his final years dressed, even in his final years when he was clearly ill but sadly missed. irrespective of your political stripes and very quietly spoken, he was elevated the house of lords in 2020, he had just had a burning desire, i think, to help those less fortunate than than us, and he did all he could to help them . did all he could to help them. and he's widely respected across the divide. and you heard the remarks from speaker of house of commons oliver dowden, standing in for rishi sunak at pmqs, and also from the deputy leader, angela rayner. hugely missed character, and i think this is the kind of politician which most mps should aspire to be. >> chris, thank you very much for joining us and frank field, forjoining us and frank field, rest in peace now. there's lots more still to come between now and 4:00, and i'll bring you a wonderful story about the second world war hero who celebrated his 102nd birthday in style. i take it from me , he looks take it from me, he looks younger than me. but first, it's time for your latest news headlines. and it's ray addison .

headlines. and it's ray addison. thanks, martin. it's 330. our top stories this afternoon. >> three men have been arrested following the deaths of five migrants, including a young girl in the english channel yesterday. >> the national crime agency says they were arrested on suspicion of facilitating illegal immigration and entering the uk illegally. now those detained include two sudanese men aged 22 and 19, and a 22 year old south sudan national. >> it comes as figures from the home office show that more than 400 migrants crossed the channel yesterday . yesterday. >> three people have been injured in a reported stabbing at a secondary school in the south of wales. >> police say one person has been arrested after the incident at amman valley school. wales air ambulance provided three critical care teams and two air ambulances. >> the school says the families of the injured have been informed. the deputy prime minister took aim at labour

today for failing to back the government's increased spending on defence, standing in for the prime minister. >> at today's pmqs, oliver dowden said the party had been silent on whether it backs investment in the armed forces . investment in the armed forces. but labour's deputy leader angela rayner says the government has been quietly cutting funds for the army . cutting funds for the army. >> princess is that we haven't cut the army to its smallest size since napoleon . and mr size since napoleon. and mr speaken size since napoleon. and mr speaker, i read with interest that the right honourable gentleman has been urging his neighbour in number 10 to call an election because he's worried they might get wiped out. has he finally realised that when he stabbed boris johnson in the back to get his men into number 10, he was ditching their biggest election winner for a pint size loser ? pint size loser? >> okay, for the latest stories, why not sign up for gb news alerts by scanning the qr code? it's on the right hand side of your screen, right now. or go to

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>> gb news is britain's election channel. and from thursday, the 2nd of may, the people decide, as the country has the polls in as the country has the polls in a rush of elections. we'll take you through the night as the first results come in, and we'll pick up at breakfast with the very best guests and analysis. >> and on the weekend , the >> and on the weekend, the results won't stop and neither will we. >> we'll explore what it all means for you as we look ahead to the general election . to the general election. >> continuing coverage live from thursday the 2nd of may at midnight on . gb news. midnight on. gb news. >> welcome back. your time is 337. i'm martin daubney and this is gb news is former dup leader sir jeffrey donaldson has appeared in court charged with rape and a number of other

historical sex offences. sir jeffrey made his way through a media scrum when he arrived at newry magistrates court earlier and his wife, lady eleanor donaldson, also appeared in court to face charges in relation to the same police investigation. well, i'm joined now by gb news northern ireland reporter dougie beattie . dougie, reporter dougie beattie. dougie, welcome to the show. and what's the latest ? the latest? >> well good afternoon martin. welcome to newry courthouse. and i must say, i've been a member of the media in northern ireland for decades, and this was one of the biggest news days i have seen. and that's because the jeffrey donaldson was such a big political animal here. i mean, if you take a look at his cv, i mean, he he ran the campaigns for enoch powell back in the 80s. he was the longest serving mp in northern ireland. and he is also one of the co signatories of theresa may's government, the confidence and supply arrangements. so he's

been right at the forefront of politics. so you can imagine at the end of march when he's arrested with these allegations, the media were here in their droves, as was the security presence . sirjeffrey had droves, as was the security presence . sir jeffrey had to droves, as was the security presence . sirjeffrey had to run presence. sirjeffrey had to run the gauntlet through them , as the gauntlet through them, as did his co—accused, lady eleanor donaldson . they both appeared in donaldson. they both appeared in the dock to prison officers flanking either side of them while they heard the charges being read out. now, there was 15 charges between the two of them, 11 of those going to jeffrey donaldson, one of rape, one of gross indecency and nine of sexual assault. his wife had four charges of aiding and abetting , and that was over a 21 abetting, and that was over a 21 year period . now they've both year period. now they've both been released on bail. the court will sit again here on the 22nd of may, but on the way out of, the court here behind us by that stage, a large crowd of people had gathered around and they

mixed in with the media, and the police had a serious time trying to push not only those crowds back, but ourselves as he and his wife both come under massive insults. so the court will sit again on the 22nd of may, and there it will hear further evidence. although it is not expected sir jeffrey or his wife will appear on that date. >> okay. thank you. dougie donnelly, live there from newry magistrates court now let's bnng magistrates court now let's bring you some breaking news on the reported school stabbing in southwest wales. and pupils are being released from amman valley school, which has been in lockdown following an incident in which three people were injured at about 11:00 this morning. many of the parents who had gathered outside the school tearfully hugged their children after they walked out of the school from 3:20 pm. and one person has been arrested . now person has been arrested. now moving on. a man who served in

the special forces during the second world war, a celebrated his 102nd birthday in style at a five star hotel in london, and heianed five star hotel in london, and he invited gb news along to share his wonderful day. i'm martin daubney on gb news,

welcome back. your time is 344. i'm martin daubney , and this is gb martin daubney, and this is gb news. now, a reminder of the news i broke a few minutes ago. and pupils are being released from amman valley school, which has been in lockdown following an incident in which three people were injured at about 11:00 this morning. and one person has been arrested. now the last surviving member of a special forces regiments during world war ii has fulfilled his dream to dine at the ritz hotel in london as he celebrated his 102nd birthday in style. chelsea pensioner john morris volunteered for the

pensionerjohn morris volunteered for the raiding support regiment and took part in the allied invasion of italy. well, cameron walken went along to meet him. >> it's not glamorous. to meet him. >> it's not glamorous . we >> it's not glamorous. we thought it was actually when you're young . you're young. >> john morris is the last surviving member of his sas regiment from the second world war. before joining the special forces , his service began in forces, his service began in kent, shooting down german bombers targeting london. >> the only thing i shot down, actually, was a chimney kitchen chimney, actually, by mistake, nobody had any breakfast that morning. i wasn't very popular. >> john was one of the last people to receive a 100th birthday card from queen elizabeth ii. >> all birthday cards from the children from christ church school celebrating his 102nd birthday this week. >> local school children made him cards thanking him for his

bravery. i think kids should know more about the sacrifice their forefathers made, not me. >> i'm no hero, but they, like they were the raf boys had died and people like that. they don't realise that they don't know much about it. they don't even know who hitler was. half of them. >> john, who's now a chelsea pensioner, kindly agreed to share his wartime memories. in 1943, he was sent to north africa with the royal artillery and past special forces selection , taking part in the selection, taking part in the allied invasion of italy . allied invasion of italy. >> 75,000 british and colonial troops were killed in italy as the germans fought back very well . well. >> ultimately, the allies were successful, but a much more powerful natural threat was not far away. mount vesuvius, famous for destroying the roman town of pompeii in ad 79, erupted and i woke up in the morning. >> i heard this rumble, looked outside and this wall of lava coming down. so never go on a

volcanic island where i am, because it's very dangerous . because it's very dangerous. >> that year, allied forces landed on the beaches of normandy, known as d—day. the operation led to the liberation of western europe and was one of the most famous and widely praised successes of the war. far away in italy, john and his comrades were branded with a less than flattering nickname turned into a popular wartime song, laura dunn 3d days. >> we did the north african landing , we >> we did the north african landing, we did the battle of britain, and we did the italian landing. we did the yugoslavia , landing. we did the yugoslavia, albania, and they called us d—day dodgers away, lady day, george was out in italy

i >> -- >> john celebrated his 102nd in style. first, a party with the chelsea pensioners, followed by a champagne lunch organised by friend and irish guards and bassador frederick crum. >> the reds always had a wonderful relationship with the chelsea pensioners. we celebrate in style and he's never been to the ritz so that will be worthy of the 102nd birthday, right? john that's right. >> cameron walker gb news. >> cameron walker gb news. >> the magnificent thought of the very best of british. and i'm joined in the studio now by gb news senior political commentator nigel lawson and the writer, columnist and journalist emma woolf. welcome both of you to the show. let's start with that story there. emma warms the cockles. john morris 102. whatever that bloke's drinking, i'd like a pint of beer. looks younger than me. >> he does. >> he does. >> and isn't it great to agree? >> and isn't it great to agree? >> someone over 100 in such? >> someone over 100 in such? >> i mean, mentally so sharp. physically in great shape. >> what? what i think when i see

people like that is i think what a shame that our young people now don't have that same drive. i mean, they were young, they were teenagers , these young men, were teenagers, these young men, when they went down, same as my father when they went to war, went to fight for our country, and they had a purpose and they had a mission and they had a motivation and i think the problem with young people is that they don't have any of that. they don't have any direction, they don't have any sense of discipline or , you sense of discipline or, you know, i mean, look at john morris and look at the life that he's led. >> and talking of legendary life's nigel, let's reflect, if we can, upon the sad passing of frank field, a labour luminaire across many decades and a man you knew . you knew. >> yeah, we were friends for years. >> and i mean, frank was sort of bubbung >> and i mean, frank was sort of bubbling with new ideas, tony blair brought him in to think the unthinkable on welfare. >> and boy, did he think the unthinkable. >> and he'd come up with a with a load of different ideas . a load of different ideas. >> i mean, some not all of them were wonderful. >> i remember him telling me one day about, how to deal with

neighbours from hell, and his idea was to house them under motorway bridges and you kind of looked at him and said, frank, are you sure that's going to work? >> actually, anderson idea. >> actually, anderson idea. >> yes, exactly. no. >> yes, exactly. no. >> when it came to actually. >> when it came to actually. >> right or left, frank could be either side. he was a brexiteer , either side. he was a brexiteer, so although he was labour through and through , he could through and through, he could still see the other side of the coin and many, many anecdotes are struck by today. >> emma, irrespective of where he looked and the depths of the daily telegraph comments and daily telegraph comments and daily mail comments. so many people, true blue conservatives, said they met frank either up north in birkenhead or in london, or on trains or just travelling about, and they stopped and they shook his hand and spoke to him, and he always took time to speak to people about politics across the spectrum. >> it's been just, you know, what a wonderful man. and you know, we shall not see his like no one has had a bad word to say about frank field, have they? and i think nigel puts his finger on it. exactly. it's that ability to see, to see both sides, but also to, to, to take the to take the other point of

view, and to be genuinely a conviction politician. and sadly, i think we're lacking we're lacking those john morris and frank field made of the right stuff. >> yeah . now let's move on to >> yeah. now let's move on to another debate. let's start with you , nigel. two tier policing you, nigel. two tier policing conversation. we talk about a lot. yesterday came to a head on saint george's day . the police saint george's day. the police very differently attired. you can see on your screens there they were in full riot gear and they were in full riot gear and they later appeared on horseback. they went into the crowd. these lads were on a saint george's day rally. they later on close all of the pubs across westminster after i think four arrests and it's making people say, nigel, you don't see this sort of policing at the pro—palestine protests. in fact, there's one of those due to kick off in about two hours time. have we got two tier policing and did yesterday's policing proved that. >> no we haven't, i mean i watched that demo from my window in the house of commons and what

you could see is this was before the trouble started. what you could see is that there was an undercurrent where there might be trouble. so what the police were doing, they were preparing for it. they weren't in riot gear at that point. they were carrying their helmets, but they weren't in full riot gear, the demonstrators had agreed a place not far from here, richmond terrace. so a couple of minutes walk from here had agreed a place where they would gather . place where they would gather. they then tried to break out of that, and through the police cordon . and that's when the cordon. and that's when the violence started. that's not two tier policing. what the police did was what they would do with any group who did the same thing. >> emma, i've been on the protests of both sides. i've been on on the armistice day one where it kicked off. i've been on the pro—palestine marches where it kicks off. well, they threw they threw stuff at me , threw they threw stuff at me, and the police was soft soaping. they were standing aside and they didn't have any riot gear drawn. do you think we are witnessing two tiered policing? >> yes, i do, and i think it's everybody in london is specifically is aware of this . i

specifically is aware of this. i don't understand why it needs to be incendiary that we would celebrate as english as the english. we would celebrate saint george's day. i don't know why we need to feel apologetic about that. it's not racist or xenophobic in any way. the world celebrates , though, wasn't it? celebrates, though, wasn't it? >> i mean, it's not the event that absolutely. you're right. celebrate sir george's day. absolutely vie the kind of people who were doing it were , people who were doing it were, were there to cause some violence . violence. >> but but you're reading into that. some of them are proud engush that. some of them are proud english people that it's. >> i didn't mean all of them. yeah, you're absolutely right. >> yeah. and it's inflames it when the police, as you say, they're sort of expecting unrest and it sets the scene for something that's going to be violent, could they not be proud? english people wanting to celebrate saint george's day, the same way that the welsh celebrates saint david's, the same way that the scottish fly, the saltire? we don't object to that. >> and emma, after i left the studio yesterday and there were a load of them in the pubs around here, the pubs were shut, as i said earlier, at 7:30. one

thing they specifically mentioned to me, nigel, was that they saw the police statement go out where the metropolitan police called them far right, and that specifically got their shackles up. so why are you calling us far right? we are patriots. we're here to do a saint george's rally. the police using that kind of language was inflammatory. that's what they said . what do you reckon that. said. what do you reckon that. >> well, i mean, not all of them were far right. and as i'm just saying to emma that some of them were there to absolutely celebrate saint george's day , celebrate saint george's day, had, you know, any of them were far right. tommy robinson was there. you you can't get much brighter than tommy robinson. he came to address that address, that crowd. so, yes, i think that crowd. so, yes, i think that it was perfectly reasonable to think we are dealing with a number of far right people. doesn't make all of them far. right. >> okay. thank you gents. we'll see you in the next hour . now see you in the next hour. now pupils are being released from amman valley school in south—west wales. it's been in lockdown of course, since following an incident in which three people were injured at

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gb news. >> hey. very good afternoon to you. it's 4 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster all across the uk . on today's show, pupils the uk. on today's show, pupils are being released from a school in south wales which had been in lockdown following reports of a stabbing there. three people have been injured and one arrested , and three people have arrested, and three people have been arrested after five migrants died in the latest channel tragedy yesterday. and it's emerged french police stood by and simply allowed a dinghy crammed with a record 112 asylum seekers to set sail for england . seekers to set sail for england. and is it time to pull the plug on the hundreds of millions of pounds we pay the french and tough talk on security from rishi sunak. he's in berlin talking up a partnership with germany to provide unwavering

support for ukraine. but can the uk really afford this multi—billion pound rise in defence spending? and that's all coming up in your next hour. welcome to the show, as always. a delight to have your company shortly we'll be talking about the rwanda bill. is it the silver bullet to end the chaos, end the arrivals. well, since it came in okay, it hasn't been passed in law yet since it was voted through. we've seen a record amount come over, including another tragedy . is including another tragedy. is this really the answer or is it a multi—billion pound white elephant? get in touch the usual ways. send your views and post your comments by visiting gbnews.com. forward slash your say get stuck in and i'll read out the best. so long as you keep them well, not too fruity. but before all that , it's time but before all that, it's time for your latest news headlines. and it's ray addison. thanks,

martin. coming up to 4:02, our top stories this hour. pupils are being released after three people were injured in a reported stabbing at a secondary school in the south of wales. >> amman valley school has been in lockdown since 11 am. >> police say one person has been arrested. >> wales air ambulance provided three critical care teams and two air ambulances. three critical care teams and two air ambulances . parents two air ambulances. parents gathered outside the school. they could be seen tearfully hugging their children as they emerged . emerged. >> three men have been arrested following the deaths of five migrants, including a young girl in the english channel yesterday. >> the national crime agency says they were arrested on suspicion of facilitating illegal immigration and entering the uk illegally. >> those detained include two sudanese men, aged 22 and 19, and a 22 year old south sudan national. >> it comes as figures from the home office show that more than 400 migrants crossed the channel

yesterday. >> the prime minister insists his defence spending pledge is fully funded , though he declined fully funded, though he declined to rule out cuts in other areas . to rule out cuts in other areas. >> the government has committed to reaching 2.5% of gdp by 2030 and is encouraging other members of the nato alliance to match that amount. speaking in berlin next to his german counterpart, rishi sunak said rising conflicts around the world are making defence spending more urgent . urgent. >> it is a war rages on our continent and new threats are rising around the world. and olaf, i want to congratulate you on your leadership in recognising the zeit and vendor and you taking the historic decision to increase germany's defence spending. and we stand here today together as the leading defence spenders in europe , unshakeable nato allies europe, unshakeable nato allies and the two largest military supporters of ukraine in europe. and together we will continue to provide unwavering support for our ukrainian friends. as you

said , for as long as it takes. said, for as long as it takes. >> the deputy prime minister says he's confident that the government will keep its election manifesto promise to ban no fault evictions. >> but but there was some uncertainty at today's pmqs over when the long promised ban might take effect . take effect. >> so after community secretary michael gove said it would be up to the house of lords to decide the rate of progress, labour's deputy leader angela rayner, says the government has made empty promises for 14 years. >> they failed renters, they failed leaseholders and they failed leaseholders and they failed mortgage holders. but mr speaker , i read with interest speaker, i read with interest that the right honourable gentleman has been urging his neighbour in number 10 to call an election because he's worried they might get wiped out. has he finally realised that when he stabbed boris johnson in the back to get his main into number 10, he was ditching their biggest election winner for a pint size loser.

>> the former leader of the democratic unionist party, sir jeffrey donaldson, has been released on bail. northern ireland's longest serving mp was suspended from the dup following his arrest last month for what's been described as historical sex charges , including one count of rape. >> his wife has also been charged with aiding and abetting in relation to the same investigation. in his resignation letter, he said he would be strenuously contesting the allegations . the allegations. >> the government is set to face a high court challenge against its xl bully ban campaign group don't ban me, license me has been given permission to bring legal action against the department for environment and rural affairs, the large bulldog type american breed was added to the banned list in october last yean the banned list in october last year, following a series of attacks. campaigners argue that the ban is unlawful and irrational, but government lawyers say the challenge should be dismissed . several military

be dismissed. several military horses on the loose in central london this morning have now been contained . been contained. >> video posted to social media appeared to show one of the animals covered in blood. >> at least four people were injured as they galloped their way through the busy city streets. >> westminster police says they'll now be transported to receive veterinary care for the latest stories , sign up to gb latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. >> com slash alerts now back to . martin. >> thank you ray. now we start with this afternoon's breaking news and pupils have started to leave a school in carmarthenshire in southwest wales, after a reported stabbing incident earlier this morning. the school was in lockdown for a number of hours and three people were injured and one person has been arrested. i'm joined now by

our home and security editor mark white. mark astonishing how to think that at home time at pick up time today, those pupils running into their parents arms, having been through this incredible ordeal. >> yes. and those pupils are now being allowed out of the school, having been locked down for a number of hours and interviewed by police at the scene as they go by police at the scene as they 9° ' by police at the scene as they go , as he went classroom to go, as he went classroom to classroom to speak to them about the incident, to gain any information that they might have about what unfolded at the amman valley school earlier today . we valley school earlier today. we know that three people were injured. one person has been arrested. we are expecting an update from depher powys police , update from depher powys police, a senior officer who will be reading a statement not taking any questions, we're told, but reading a statement outside the school at 530 today to give us

an indication, hopefully, of what the exact facts are, beyond the statement that three people have been injured . we have had have been injured. we have had reports and, karen davis , who's reports and, karen davis, who's one of the school governors, has been quoted as saying that she's been quoted as saying that she's been told two teachers were injured in this incident. the third person who was injured. we have no details on them, but one of the injured, we understand was flown some 70 miles to hospital to the university of wales hospital in cardiff for treatment, the incident itself is has been contained, police are investigating what, was behind this incident. are investigating what, was behind this incident . but behind this incident. but clearly, as you said, a great deal of concern amongst those parents, martin, because hundreds of parents were outside the school gates not knowing if their child had been caught up

in the incident for quite some time afterwards until we got a, a statement that really came through from the school, about an hour and a half ago that said, all of those , who were said, all of those, who were injured, the parents of those pupils have been informed that their loved ones were caught up in this. so if you hadn't been notified by the police, then you could assume that your child was not caught up in this incident. >> thank you, mark white. i'll tell you what. if i was one of those parents, i think i'd hug my child and not let go of him all night. well, thank you mate. well of course, bring you regular updates from that very worrying incident throughout the show. but now to the news that three men have been arrested after five migrants, including a child, tragically died yesterday and the national crime agency has confirmed the men were arrested on suspicion of facilitating illegal immigration and entering the uk illegally. the men were two sudanese nationals aged 22 and 19, and

also a south sudan national who is aged 22. now. of course , the is aged 22. now. of course, the tragedy in the channel happened just hours after the rwanda bill cleared parliament and priti patel, who negotiated the deal with rwanda two long years ago, is adamant that the plan will work. she said it is important to recognise that other countries are looking to copy our partnership with eu nations, taking an interest in the plans i put forward because of the positive difference that they can make. she also , and i'm can make. she also, and i'm joined now in the studio by our political editor, chris hope , political editor, chris hope, and also the conservative mp for torbay, kevin foster. and also the conservative mp for torbay, kevin foster . welcome to torbay, kevin foster. welcome to you both, gents. chris, let's start with you. so rwanda was meant to be the silver bullet. it was meant to put a stop to this hasn't been passed into law yet. it has been voted through . yet. it has been voted through. but since it has been voted through, if anything , we've seen through, if anything, we've seen the floodgates open and yet another tragedy.

>> i was fascinated by those remarks from priti patel because there's a battle for the right of the party going on, priti patel is saying i'm backing, i'm more of a moderate person for any future leadership contest. if there is going to be one. she is almost defining herself against suella braverman , who against suella braverman, who was making the very point you're making. she thinks it's not going to work. along with robert jenrick, the former immigration minister who quit over the idea of individual challenges. and that's why you've got this scepticism in the party, whether it's going to work, the hope is that it will work for the government's point of view. it's not law yet. martin the king signs off probably tomorrow when that happens, that triggers all sorts of things happening behind the scenes. kevin foster might know more of this, but you'll have letters going out to those who can be. they are told they're going to go on the first flights out to rwanda, if it was really going to work, though, i think forget those who've been here for 13 months, you need to say the next people arriving here are going to rwanda. start stopping. the arrivals don't deal with the kind of those who are here already. earlier, we spoke to labour's jenny chapman,

frontbencher and a cabinet office, and said we said to her will labour axe this even if it works ? and she has something works? and she has something very interesting to say. earlier on pmqs live if it did, as a main , major, major leap of main, major, major leap of a thought experiment, then we might be having a different conversation. >> but there's absolutely no evidence that this is going to work because we're up against the people traffickers and the people smugglers and the newsflash is they lie to people. they take their money, they put them in boats. they make them risk their lives . they're lying risk their lives. they're lying to people. and that is not going to people. and that is not going to stop because we spend half £1 billion spending a really small number of people to rwanda. when you've got hundreds of thousands coming . coming. >> okay, let's bring in kevin now . so kevin foster, you're now. so kevin foster, you're obviously an advocate of the rwanda bill. you think it's going to work. tell us why , when going to work. tell us why, when we have only 150 watertight cases earmarked to leave the

country, that will make any difference when over 400 arrived in a single day yesterday . in a single day yesterday. >> well, the core part of the rwanda plan is, is breaking the bafis rwanda plan is, is breaking the basis of the people smugglers business model, which is the idea that you've left a safe and democratic country. you've come here even if you we turn down your claim, we can't return you to the third country you've left. and also because of the either domestic policies or the situation in your own country. >> so for example, someone like syria, we can't return you there. >> so to break that model where then the people will argue to you, well, that means you'll end up staying in britain regardless of the decision. actually we can say, well, if it was safe to you we're looking for, we can meet that by working with a third country, rwanda. you can be transferred there. there are specialists in resettlement of refugees and it breaks that link between playing as people smuggler and then remaining here in the uk. and in terms of the impact, when we first announced it, we did see a drop. well this is the core now is about the weather. operationalising this

plan. and then as part of wider measures to tackle the overall problem next, the fangs are going to be bad from the lawyers from the echr. >> the ngos, the home office, the charities, the archbishops , the charities, the archbishops, the charities, the archbishops, the church. they'll all be out to try and stop this getting off the ground, as we learned through brexit. and i hate to bnng through brexit. and i hate to bring that up, but i think the historical hangover is similar. are you confident that despite the entire weight of the establishment going out to try and derail rwanda, it will go ahead? >> well, i think the difference compared to the brexit is, is we have a clear and decisive majority in the house of commons backing this and deal with the problems going back five years ago, was that every time the government tried to get a deal through or to try to actually agree, for us to leave , people agree, for us to leave, people would not agree to it. this time around, there's a decisive majority and a clear will of the elected house of parliament to get on with this and i think many people across the country wanting to see a solution implemented to this problem. and we know across europe, others

are looking at the rwanda plan because they face exactly the same challenge. what do we do with people who we can't return to the third country that was safe and democratic. they've left. we can't, for whatever reason, return them to the their own country, i.e. because they just won't accept enforced removals. well how do we break that? and that's where bringing in something like the rwanda plan makes that difference. >> how soon can you get the regular rhythm of flights taking off? kevin foster, because your former home office minister in charge of migration, again, i suspect the government will give a timescale that's slightly longer than they expect it to be, because it is not in july. >> it's not a it's not a simple process from the as we talk about actually bringing people into detention at the moment, you give someone a notice that they're being considered for rwanda. you need to bring them into immigration detention for very obvious reasons. you then need to work the case. any final objections to their to their removal, and then actually the physical process of getting them onto a plane is not as simple. and if people think that someone's just going to walk onto the plane, that's certainly not the experience we've had on removals flights. but it can be done and i hope, i'm sure it

will be done. >> okay, let's move on to defence, of course. chris rishi sunakin defence, of course. chris rishi sunak in berlin after yesterday's warsaw flying visit, £75 billion announced yesterday, 2.5% gdp moving forward today, a new chapter with germany promised the big question is will this woo the electorate? >> well, you're seeing the prime here doing a one, two, three on getting on the electoral front front foot. last friday, he announced plans to deal with people who shouldn't be claiming benefits cutting, cutting, getting back to work, you should be at work. in the government's view, monday you heard the rwanda plan being set out. and tuesday that was yesterday . tuesday that was yesterday. there's a huge number of amount of money being spent on defence. labour so far hasn't got an answer on defence because they're going to wait for their spending review. and he's saying evenin spending review. and he's saying even in terms in berlin, the press conference with olaf scholz next to him, i will cut taxes and do this. it's quite it's quite a change. i think , in it's quite a change. i think, in a rather sunak being in a crouch, i think against all the critics, he's now punching his way out of his paper bag, probably because we've got this

local election results next week in a mayoralty elections , which in a mayoralty elections, which could be awkward for the tories. he's got some fight left in him. let's has to be said. >> earlier on, emily thornberry wasn't quite so forgiving. let's see what she had to say . see what she had to say. >> said several weeks ago that we wanted to move towards spending 2.5% on defence and indeed, when we were in power last, that was about the amount of money that we were spending. but we will do it as as circumstances allow. we will be looking with some interest at whether or not the government produces any details in relation to this, because, you know , the to this, because, you know, the prime minister yesterday essentially committed to spending another £75 billion on defence by 2030. so they produced this 22 page document and not a single line of it was on where the money was coming from. now, hopefully it'll come in the near future, just like we're hoping that they're going to give us the details on the £46 billion that it's going to cost them to get rid of national insurance. they haven't given us any details on that either. i

mean, as we get closer to an election, we're going to get more and more of this, you know, and i know that your program will hold the government to account in the way that you hold us to account, and that if people want to say they want to spend money, they need to tell us where the money is going to come from, because in the end, it's the public that needs to spend to pay for it. >> so there you go. kevin foster. fair to say emily thornberry a little bit, angry there, shall we say. she's saying you've got to hold you to account. where's the money coming from? so, kevin, where is the money coming from? >> well, i find it interesting getting a lecture on defence from someone who's so keen to make jeremy corbyn prime minister, in fact, was one of his closest lieutenants in the labour party. but parking that particular observation, you know, we will clearly set out our fiscal plans, but 2.5% and the core is can we afford not to spend this? we're seeing rising threats in the east. we're seeing what's happening in china, we're seeing russia, we're seeing russia and the war in ukraine. and, you know, we are facing a situation similar to the 1930s, where countries had to start looking at the threats that were there at that

time. people argued, we can't afford to increase defence and we know what came next. >> is the pm overstating it? he says that in that speech yesterday, he wants to put the uk defence on a war footing. we're not on the brink of war, he said. nor do we seek it. i mean, this is these are language which is extraordinary. you wouldn't expect this even a few years ago. >> well, you know, a few years ago we hadn't had one country in europe attack another country in europe. and this type of peace between nations in europe that existed since may 1945. so yes, we haven't we wouldn't have used that type of language a few years back because we didn't have the type of situation we have the type of situation we have in ukraine, now, today, a few years ago. and that is what is changing this scenario is, you know, we have seen an aggressor prepared to attack another country and seeks to conquer it. and we have to be very clear to our allies that we will stand with them, because the surest way to secure the peace is to prepare for war. >> well , let's see if rishi >> well, let's see if rishi sunak talking tough on the world stage , lands with the electorate stage, lands with the electorate back here in blighty. kevin foster , thanks for joining us. foster, thanks for joining us. and also chris hope. always a pleasure. thanks, gents. now moving on. the shadow attorney.

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news. now, the share of british electricity generated by burning coal and gas fell to a record low of just 2.4% earlier this month. the share of power coming from fossil fuels hit the new low at lunchtime last monday, and lasted for an entire hour. well, i'm joined now by angela knight, who's the former ceo of energy uk. angela, welcome to the show . always a pleasure. so the show. always a pleasure. so does this spell the end for fossil fuels or was this a good day when actually the wind was blowing and the sun was out ? blowing and the sun was out? >> and i suspect the demand was also quite low , so if one puts also quite low, so if one puts the whole thing into context, you know, it's impossible to build quite so many wind farms as we've built in this country over this last short few years, and particularly some of those that are offshore without us having , a that are offshore without us having, a steady that are offshore without us having , a steady increase that are offshore without us having, a steady increase in the amount of electricity we generate from renewables. so

actually, that's a good thing. and i'm glad to see that it's happening on the other side of the equation, though, because most renewables are intermittent, we can debate what nuclear is, but most renewables are intermittent . that means are intermittent. that means that there's got to be an equivalent amount of backup or battery storage or some such available for when the wind doesn't blow and the sun doesn't shine and it's cold and we're all at home and we've put the heating on. so yeah, there is a balance to be had . and whilst balance to be had. and whilst i think it is a good thing that there's this attention on renewables , what worries me is renewables, what worries me is there's nothing like the attention that needs to be there, both on replacing our old nuclear, but also ensuring that we've got gas fired power stations and gas available because we will need those and we'll need them for a long penod we'll need them for a long period of time to come. >> and angela, it's very, very important to point out, is it

not, that the figure referred to here? is the mains power taken not the total power taken to power industry can't run cement mills or brickworks off of mains electricity. that's a completely different thing. so that's a key point. being able to plug in is completely different to being able to fire up for industry, and the facts remain , do they and the facts remain, do they not, angela, that even now we're running at what, 70% reliance on gas. so this is this, cherry picking of stats here. >> there's a lot of cherry picking on stats goes on everything and energy to my mind off on far more than anything else because people have this sort of emotional link with the environmental agenda. and so they'll see the environment piece as being absolutely right up at the top, and they'll just plug up at the top, and they'll just plug it and plug it regardless. there's another thing about this statistic as well. in front of us, it is for a half hour

period. it's not, you know, the normal day is 24 hours. we shouldn't detract though from the point that actually we've got more renewable power . and got more renewable power. and that's a good thing. at the same time, we should not detract from the point that we need long time power, reliable, produced by fossil fuels in this country and also by nuclear. and that's why i said earlier that unfortunately, the focus is only on one part of the whole story, and nobody talks much really about the fact that you have to take the electricity from one part of the country to another part of the country to another part of the country. it's the national grid and the national grid was built to have a few large power stations dotted aboutin large power stations dotted about in appropriate geographic positions. now it's taking on huge number of small, electric , huge number of small, electric, small power plant electricity produced from renewables . and produced from renewables. and the consequence of that is that we have to rebuild the grid. so

we're talking about billions and billions of pounds of, investment required in the grid alone , as well as much more on alone, as well as much more on nuclear. we've got to retain and make sure that our gas is modern andifs make sure that our gas is modern and it's upgraded , where and it's upgraded, where necessary. and this is going to cost a lot of money. so, yes, cherry picking statistics might be good fun, but it doesn't give the whole answer to something thatis the whole answer to something that is very important for all of us in this country and for business. and unfortunately, there's never been a proper debate of who pays, how much and for what. and angela, briefly, if we could, you've hit a key point there because all of the additional grid that's extra costs and green energy, proponents like to say all the time, well, it's the cheapest form of energy there is because of course, the wind and the sun is free. >> but the cost of building turbines, the cost of building solar panels , the cost of solar panels, the cost of building the grid to get it to our houses , that all adds up. our houses, that all adds up. how cheap actually is green energy compared to more traditional forms? >> well, you see, i don't think

it is because when the focus is just on green energy, has the price of the windmills come down? the answer is yes. has the price of the solar panels come down? and the answer is yes. but one unit of electricity from renewables also requires another unit of reliable backup. so one unit, therefore of renewable electricity from one power station, one renewable power station, one renewable power station, renewable , wind farm, station, renewable, wind farm, say, requires an equivalent of a reliable backup. therefore, whatever the cost is of a renewable, it's actually more than twice it because of that backup requirement . than twice it because of that backup requirement. but unless we're all prepared to say, oh well, no, it's okay, we'll only we'll only switch on the lights when the wind is blowing and industries say, well, i only do manufacturing when the wind is blowing , which of course manufacturing when the wind is blowing, which of course is a nonsense. and that ability to properly account for a renewable

backup and the transmission, the whole package , if you like, the whole package, if you like, the ability to do that. is there , ability to do that. is there, but it has been ducked, by, all political parties, in favour of just focusing on the one thing called carbon reduction. and let's decarbonise our electricity system. and you have to take people with you. it's no no use having the big vision thing unless people are with you on that. i mean, the current proposal to try and get to us net zero and cut out, just have electric cars and so on. i mean, the deadlines are ridiculous. they're impossible. and now we've got another deadline. apparently that's been reduced from 2035 to 2030. it simply can't be done. and actually it can't be done. and actually it can't be done from an engineering perspective. it can't be done from a financial perspective . and how much are perspective. and how much are people prepared to pay? because in the end, there's nobody else that's going to pay for all this except for us as consumers or us except for us as consumers or us as except for us as consumers or us as taxpayers . and most of that

as taxpayers. and most of that us is exactly the same people . us is exactly the same people. >> absolutely fascinating stuff. thanks for sharing your expertise . angela knight, who's expertise. angela knight, who's the former ceo of energy uk. fantastic. i really enjoyed that. now there's lots more still to come between now and 5:00 and i'll discuss very worrying claims of prison wars between muslim and white gangs. but first, it's time for your latest news headlines. and it's ray addison. thanks, martin. 4:32. now in the us, president biden has just signed a new aid package for ukraine into law. >> it ends months of uncertainty over whether the us would continue supporting kyiv, and comes after the bill passed the house of representatives on saturday in a show of bipartisan support. >> ukraine's president zelenskyy says it reinforces the us as a, quote, beacon of democracy . we quote, beacon of democracy. we have some breaking for news you

now. a man has been charged after a nine year old girl was kidnapped in knightsbridge in central london. >> 56 year old robert prussack was charged with multiple offences, including kidnap and sexual assault on a female under 13 years old. the child was reported missing on brompton roadin reported missing on brompton road in london on monday. this is a breaking story. we'll bring you more on this as we get it. >> our pupils are being released after three people were injured in a reported stabbing at a secondary school in the south of wales. a man valley school has beenin wales. a man valley school has been in lockdown since 11 am. >> police say one person has been arrested. wales air ambulance provided three critical care teams and two air ambulances . parents gathered ambulances. parents gathered outside the school could be seen tearfully hugging their children as they emerged . as they emerged. >> three men have been arrested following the deaths of five migrants, including a young girl in the english channel

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political commentator nigel nelson and the writer, columnist and journalist and great friend of the show, emma woolf. welcome to you both. nigel let's start with you. the labour party got to say, first of all, they were talking on part privatisation of the nhs. wes streeting talking tough on defence now, talking tough on defence now, talking tough on defence now, talking tough on law and order. starting tough on law and order. starting to feel a bit like 1997 but without dream , it is a bit, without dream, it is a bit, a lot of this is coming out of the new labour playbook, and i mean, good reason for that. i mean, tony blair won three elections on the basis of it. we flirted with the with left wing policies with the with left wing policies with jeremy corbyn, whatever you thought of that, the electorate absolutely rejected them in 2019. and now we're back to a more to a change to a more moderate labour party, which is left of centre still, but it is more moderate than the one that we saw a couple of years ago. >> i won't make any jokes about.

hopefully diane abbott won't be doing the maths on the police force numbers. but emma, on a serious point, this this does sound very much like a conservative party. it's a very centrist old fashioned labour party. tony blair could be in charge of this. my question is, i wonder how much blair is involved. i wonder i'm horrified to find myself absolutely behind this and absolutely agreeing with them. >> yes, we need more police on the streets. they're saying, take back our streets. i think the police in recent years, it's not about resourcing. i think they've become horribly sidetracked by the demos, by cybercrime, by hate crime, by all the other things they're not doing. they're not bothering about people, about low level crime, burglaries, shoplifting, muggings , all the things that muggings, all the things that actually affect people's everyday lives. when you look at the figures about these disparities of police procurement, it's scandalous in. so, for example, to extract data from a mobile phone in derbyshire costs over five grand in staffordshire it costs about £1,000, high performance police

vehicles. in merseyside you'll pay vehicles. in merseyside you'll pay £55,000 for a police high performance vehicle . in performance vehicle. in lancashire you'll pay £27,000. so literally the amount of thousands, well, millions. i think they will pay for extra police officers on the street if they get this. you know, if they get the keys to number 10. i think this policy absolutely makes sense. >> and i think people, irrespective of political stripes, nigel, they are crying out for just more stripes, nigel, they are crying out forjust more bobbies on the out for just more bobbies on the beat, more policing of how we remember it, where you had a community officer in your community officer in your community who you knew who you could trust. he wasn't going to arrest you for making a transphobic tweet, but would actually get stuff done. >> that's the point . and the >> that's the point. and the 13,000 police officers, they're talking about, their neighbourhood police, these are people who will be on the beat, who will live amongst their local communities, on top of that, you'll have, the rest of the police support officers . the police support officers. again, same thing in your neighbourhood, in your communities . so the idea is to communities. so the idea is to actually make police more

visible . yvette cooper keep visible. yvette cooper keep saying too many people don't see a police, police man or woman on the street from one week to the next. the point labour are talking about is they're going to change that. >> and it's that broken windows syndrome, isn't it? when you know the sense of lawlessness, the sense that the streets simply are not police. yeah, the sense that you can walk into a local shop and fill your rucksack with, with high value items. that's what gets, you know , that's what gets things know, that's what gets things run down. and people just committing crime with impunity. yeah. >> great. i want to move on to another topic now . it's caught another topic now. it's caught my eye today and that's a new report saying that the trans census data is, quote , totally census data is, quote, totally unreliable. this is michael biggs, an associate professor at oxford university, saying that people simply didn't understand the question and therefore the actual number of people who say they're trans might be massively off. >> yes, and it could be. and there are no decent statistics on this that the only one you've got are the number of people a

year who get gender recognition certificates , which allows them certificates, which allows them to change their gender on official documents , birth official documents, birth certificates, passports, things like that. so, if it's 250, there's 250 we know about there are other estimates that say there are up to 500,000 people who are trans in this country. that seems hugely high. somewhere along the line, there's this huge discrepancy and the figures are not being collected properly. >> emma, i think it'd be really interesting to know, and i hope i don't offend anyone by saying this. i'd be really interested to know how many people are gay in this country, because i think i've seen, you know, in my in, in my lifetime, i've seen many, many, many more people who are gay than previously. lots of people can feel more able to come out now. but this trans thing, what is the obsession ? thing, what is the obsession? what is our obsession? it's such a tiny minority of the entire population. we seem to have an obsession. it's dominates the political agenda in a way that other such , you know, kind of other such, you know, kind of niche issues, don't we? well, can't we agree , can't we agree can't we agree, can't we agree that no matter who you love, how

you dress, who you sleep with, how you feel, we respect you. why do we have to obsess about people happy with our lives? i'm about people's genitals. absolutely happy with that, about people mutilating their bodies in order to. why can't we just accept people and respect them? >> well, i think that's absolutely right. i think there's no reason why we shouldn't. and you're also right that the trans issue seems to be something we debate, probably over debate . what mps tell me is over debate. what mps tell me is it just doesn't come up on the doorstep . people are not that doorstep. people are not that concerned about it. and it seems to be the chattering classes, which i suppose we belong to which i suppose we belong to which which are talking about this far more than the rest of the population. we all care about the cost of living and things like that. >> they do. but we also belong to the common sense class and astonishing fact that leaps out of this is the highest percentage of trans people. if you believe the census data in britain is in newham and brent, do you know newham? brent? i used to live in brent. >> so you know full well that it's not i wouldn't think it's a trans hotbed, but it is a hotbed

of people whose first language isn't english. >> and this report says that people simply don't understand the question . so they're ticking the question. so they're ticking a box to say they're trans when they haven't got a clue what it means, in which case the question has got to be done differently and you're what we need to do is the reason for collecting this data is to make policy. >> what you must have is the integrity of the figures. therefore, this data is not being collected properly. >> and there's a suggestion that the questions will sort of, you know, were purposefully worded in a sort of slightly confusing way. were you born into the body thatis way. were you born into the body that is the same as the gender that is the same as the gender that you identify with? all of that you identify with? all of that kind of stuff, which , if that kind of stuff, which, if engushis that kind of stuff, which, if english is not your first language, could be very confusing. these kind of double negative gender ideology questions and as you say, emma woolf. >> and yet this data which by this reckoning, is flawed, is setting all sorts of policy and political agenda. emma woolf nigel nelson, thank you very much for joining nigel nelson, thank you very much forjoining us. always a much for joining us. always a pleasure. and we'll see you again in the next hour. still to come, a claim that violence between muslim and white gangs is rife in uk prisons. i'm

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welcome back. it's 450. i'm martin daubney, and this is gb news. now, on to a behind the scenes look at the british prison system. and a former inmate has told of the turf wars between extreme islamists and white supremacists. chris atkins has written a book in which he details the tactics that lags. use which include creating makeshift knives by sharpening toothbrushes and also throwing boiling water filled with sugar. he claims vulnerable young inmates are targeted for recruitment , with inmates are targeted for recruitment, with management unable to tackle this growing problem. well, joining me now is kevin hurley , the former city of kevin hurley, the former city of london police head of counter—terror . and welcome to

counter—terror. and welcome to the show, kevin. always a pleasure . how serious an issue pleasure. how serious an issue do you think that is? we talk all the time about prisons at breaking point and of the inmates gaining control to the point. yesterday we heard there could be riots like strangeways. how much of an issue is islamist extremism within this system ? extremism within this system? >> it's becoming very serious. >> it's becoming very serious. >> and the prison service really can't do too much about it. >> they're very short staffed. >> they're very short staffed. >> they're very short staffed. >> they don't actually have the equipment, and basically people . equipment, and basically people. >> will join these gangs for protection because the islamist gangs hold sway in some of the most serious category a prisons . most serious category a prisons. >> so if you want to survive and avoid having boiling water with sugarin avoid having boiling water with sugar in it designed to stick to your skin or end up getting stabbed with the equivalent of a knitting needle, you need to get some protection. >> and it's a big problem.

>> and it's a big problem. >> only maybe two prison officers on a wing with maybe 4050 prisoners. >> they can't really do much about it because most of the work of prison officer is done by chatting, persuading , aiding, by chatting, persuading, aiding, and so on. >> it's not about force and, and, and, pushing people around. >> it's about really cajoling, chatting, persuading , they've chatting, persuading, they've got a big problem themselves, and i suspect it won't be long before there's potentially a prison officer is killed in one of these situations because there have been some very serious assaults on them in the past . past. >> and, kevin, we hear all the time that our jails are so full that we're letting cons out early . we're putting we're less early. we're putting we're less likely to send them down in the first place. people leaving the prison service in numbers because, of course, the terrible working conditions, overcrowding . this is the perfect storm, isn't it, for this kind of extremism to take hold and a total inversion of the power

dynamic . yeah. i you know, we've dynamic. yeah. i you know, we've mishandled it in the past, and sometimes we thought the right thing to do was bring in, some imams who would help de—radicalize and in fact, some have been found in the past that actively, actively or actively encourage the extremist type behaviour. >> but it all comes down to they don't have the staff and they don't have the staff and they don't have the facilities to keep people separate . i would, keep people separate. i would, i mean, i would, wouldn't i? if i went to prison, it would be quite terrible for me as an ex—cop. but the thought of going into a category, a prison where not only you've got what you might call your standard gangsters, but gangsters all over the world, but these particular gangs ruling the roost must be quite terrifying, and you'd have no option but to join another gang often, you know, we follow the social trends in america. and of course, the prisons in america are run by extremist gangs of one form or another, whether they're white. skinhead type

extremists or at the other end , extremists or at the other end, black street gangs. and increasingly now in places like minneapolis, where there's large , muslim population, you're now getting , islamist , muslim population, you're now getting, islamist gangs developing within their federal penitentiary , sorry, their state penitentiary, sorry, their state penitentiary, sorry, their state penitentiary system . penitentiary system. >> okay. kevin hurley, thank you very much for joining >> okay. kevin hurley, thank you very much forjoining us. a very very much for joining us. a very concern thing, state of affairs and indeed, indeed , ian and indeed, indeed, ian aitchison conducted a 2016 review into extremism in british prisons. and, kevin, nothing really seems to have changed. the conclusion was muslims have won the power battle between prison gangs, says the hero of the london bridge attack. also, steve gallant, who we spoke to previously, kevin hurley, thanks for joining us on the show. always a pleasure to have your expert insight . our pupils are expert insight. our pupils are being released from a school in south—west wales , which was south—west wales, which was placed in lockdown after three people were injured in a reported stabbing this morning. one person has been arrested .

one person has been arrested. i'm martin daubney on gb news on britain's news channel here's your weather with aidan mcgivern i >> -- >>a >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hi there and welcome to the latest update from the met office for gb news. the odd shower towards the south today, but otherwise it's fine with sunny spells, especially for much of scotland and northern ireland where we've got an area of high pressure towards the northwest of the uk. however, we've still got this northerly breeze bringing cool conditions countrywide and it's going to feel especially cool on the nonh feel especially cool on the north sea coast. any showers in the south will disappear into the south will disappear into the evening, but there'll be further showers into the north and east of scotland, northeast england and 1 or 2 developing across wales and western england. now where we avoid the showers , where we get some clear showers, where we get some clear spells, temperatures will fall away at such a frost first thing on thursday. a chilly start

especially for parts of scotland, northern ireland, central england . however, central england. however, despite the chill, plenty of sunshine first thing and we keep the largely fine and sunny weather for western scotland , weather for western scotland, northwest england, for example. elsewhere, a bit more cloud compared with today and a few more showers developing, particularly for parts of england and wales, eastern scotland. still, that cool breeze for the north sea coast. 8 or 9 celsius at best for some nonh 8 or 9 celsius at best for some north sea areas, but otherwise highs elsewhere into the double figures. now friday starts off frosty, a chilly start in the east of england in particular, but otherwise a few showers and some sunny spells expected. more unsettled weather arrives from the south through the weekend. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers spotty hours of weather on

gb news. >> very good afternoon to you. it's 5 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news. broadcasting live from the heart of westminster all across the uk. breaking news in the last couple of minutes. and a teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder following the stabbing at amman valley school in wales . we'll valley school in wales. we'll bnng valley school in wales. we'll bring you more details on that soon. and after weeks of the metropolitan police being accused of soft soaping, pro palestine protests yesterday, riot police have mounted. cops steamed into a saint george's day parade . it's his final proof day parade. it's his final proof that we got two tiered policing in britain and believe me, you will not want to miss out on this corker of a story. we'll meet the man who served in the special forces during the second world war. he's been celebrating his 102nd birthday in style.

look at him. he looks younger than me. that's all. coming up in your next hour. than me. that's all. coming up in your next hour . thanks for in your next hour. thanks for joining me on the show. always a delight to have your company. i've been joined in the studio by stephen barrett . you know him by stephen barrett. you know him as a regular on the show and experts on matters of the law. i'll be having a conversation with him about the two tier policing situation in britain. have we got it? what's going on yesterday? undeniably the police operated in a very, very different way than you will have seen on any of the pro—palestine marches i've been on both sets of those marches. i've seen it first hand. it is very different up close and personal. why is this happening? what can be done about it? let me know your opinions . as ever. send your opinions. as ever. send your views in by getting on to gb news. com forward slash your say. get in touch and i'll read some comments out before the end of the show. but before all of that, it's time for your

headlines. and it's ray addison. thanks, martin. good afternoon. it's 5:02. i'm ray addison in the gb news room , and we start the gb news room, and we start with some breaking news. >> a teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after two teachers and a teenage student were stabbed at a school in wales. the suspect remains in custody. pupils were released after three people were injured in that stabbing at amman valley school in south wales. the school has been in lockdown since 11 am. >> wales air ambulance provided three critical care teams and parents gathered outside the school. >> they could be seen tearfully hugging their children as they emerged . emerged. >> three men have been arrested following the deaths of five migrants, including a young girl , while trying to cross the channel yesterday, the national crime agency says there were

they were arrested on suspicion of facilitating illegal immigration and entering the uk illegally. those detained include two sudanese men aged 22 and 19, and a 22 year old. south sudan national. >> it comes as figures from the home office show that more than 400 migrants crossed the channel yesterday . a man has been yesterday. a man has been charged after a nine year old girl was kidnapped in knightsbridge in central london. 56 year old robert prussack was charged with multiple offences including kidnap and sexual assault on a female under 13 years old. the child was reported missing on brompton roadin reported missing on brompton road in london on monday. >> now the prime minister insists his defence spending pledge is fully funded, though he declined to rule out cuts in other areas. >> the government has committed to reaching 2.5% of gdp by 2030 and is encouraging other members of the nato alliance to match that amount. speaking in berlin

next to his german counterpart, rishi sunak said that rising conflicts around the world are making defence spending more urgent. >> it is a war rages on our continent and new threats are rising around the world. and olaf, i want to congratulate you on your leadership in recognising the zeit and vendor and you taking the historic decision to increase germany's defence spending . and we stand defence spending. and we stand here today together as the leading defence spenders in europe, unshakeable nato allies and the two largest military supporters of ukraine in europe. and together we will continue to provide unwavering support for our ukrainian friends. as you said , for as long as it takes. said, for as long as it takes. >> the deputy pm says he's confident the government will keep its election manifesto promise to ban no fault evictions. >> but there was some uncertainty at today's pmqs over when the long promised ban might take effect . that's after

take effect. that's after communities secretary michael gove said it would be up to the house of lords to decide the rate of progress. labour's deputy leader, angela rayner, says the government has made empty promises after 14 years. >> they failed renters, they failed leaseholders and they failed leaseholders and they failed mortgage holders. but mr speaken failed mortgage holders. but mr speaker, i read with interest that the right honourable gentleman has been urging his neighbour in number 10 to call an election because he's worried they might get wiped out. has he finally realised that when he stabbed boris johnson in the back to get his main into number 10, he was ditching their biggest election winner for a pint size loser. >> the head of tiktok says the social media app isn't going anywhere after president biden signed a law that could see it bannedin signed a law that could see it banned in the united states after growing concerns over the potential for the chinese government to influence the app's algorithm and content. >> the new law would force its chinese owner to sell the app or

face a ban. the ceo of the app, which is used by 170 million americans, says he expects to win a legal challenge staying in the us, and president biden has signed a new aid package for ukraine into law. a short while ago. today ends months of uncertainty over whether the us would continue supporting kyiv, and comes after the bill passed the house of representatives on saturday in a show of bipartisan support. ukraine's president zelenskyy says it reinforces the us as a, quote, beacon of democracy. the government is set to face a high court challenge against its xl bully ban. campaign group don't ban me licensed me has been given permission to bring legal action against the department for environment and rural affairs. the large bulldog type american breed was added to a banned list in october last year following a series of attacks. campaigners argue that the ban is unlawful and irrational.

argue that the ban is unlawful and irrational . however, and irrational. however, government lawyers say the challenge should be dismissed . challenge should be dismissed. several military horses on the loose in central london this morning have now been contained . morning have now been contained. video posted to social media appeared to show one of the animals covered in blood. at least four people were injured as they galloped their way through the busy city streets. westminster police says they will now be transported for care . well, for the latest stories sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code that's on your screen, or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now back to . martin. >> thank you ryan. we start with this afternoon's breaking news and a teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after two teachers and a teenage student were stabbed at amman valley school in wales. and let's cross now. live to gb news. reporter peter jack carson, who is outside amman valley school.

jack, a dramatic case. what's the latest ? the latest? >> yeah, well, just in the last few moments, martin, we've had that updated statement from the police which said that just after 11:20 am. they were called to amman valley school. this morning after reports of an incident . and now we can confirm incident. and now we can confirm that a teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder. the police confirming that three people were injured in this incident and taken to hospital, they say with stab wounds and the families of all of those members involved have been have been informed of the injuries , of informed of the injuries, of course, that they've sustained. we know from a statement from the welsh ambulance service that critical care was delivered here on site. there was air ambulances, there was a big emergency response immediately and people around here in this area say this is a very unlikely event. area say this is a very unlikely event . when they saw those

event. when they saw those emergency services turned up new, of course, something serious was happening. the police said they're working with the school and agencies to ensure that the appropriate support is available to those students who may well have witnessed what has been described, as well by some witnesses, as horrifying as an incident. the police say this is a very distressing incident and their thoughts are with the victims and their family and everything. everybody impacted by what has happened. we understand that it is two teachers and a teenage pupil that have been taken to hospital with those stab wounds and as i said, a one teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder. now, throughout the day, we've been heanng throughout the day, we've been hearing different, differing reports. but again, that confirmation from the police that it was two teachers and one student that had been stabbed and the forensic officers have been seen, at the site of the school here. it's attached to a leisure centre. it's a busy part of, of this town here, but of course, now completely closed

off the head girl who wasn't actually here, was working from home today, said that she got a message from one of her friends that was studying for a psychology exam to say they'd received a message, to say it was code red, and the school was in lockdown. so it was a pretty instant response to when that incident was was called to the police around 1120 this morning. we are expecting a statement from superintendent ross evans from superintendent ross evans from who's the carmarthenshire , from who's the carmarthenshire, commander shortly, at around half past five. and we'll bring you the latest once he's spoken here. >> thank you. jack carson live outside amman valley school. shocking story of that school stabbing a teenage girl now held on suspicion of attempted murder. now, let's talk about the events in central london yesterday and asked the question on do we have two tier policing in the country ? well, gb news in the country? well, gb news viewers can see footage on your screen now that was posted on social media by the metropolitan police yesterday afternoon , and

police yesterday afternoon, and the met said at the time that officers were already dealing with disorder an hour before the saint george's day event was due to start, and they added when they tried to get the group of people to turn around, they reacted by violently forcing their way through. well i'm joined in the studio by the barrister and writer stephen barrett . stephen, welcome to the barrett. stephen, welcome to the studio. it's a delight to have your company. studio. it's a delight to have your company . we've been having your company. we've been having this conversation now for many, many weeks , mainly since october many weeks, mainly since october the 7th. i've been on these protests. i've been on protests on both sides. i've seen up close and personal, and there is absolutely a feeling that the police get tooled up and are ready to go on one type of protest and on the other they stand back and observe is that justified? >> well, i think i think we have to say yes now. >> and, baroness fox said it earlier . earlier. >> she used the phrase differential treatment. >> i quite like that. if you if two tier policing offends you, then use differential treatment.

>> but there is something going on because when we get violent and aggressive protests in a certain way, then the metro politan police commissioner will go on the television and be what i call performatively powerless. he will deny that he has any legal powers. he will look in his legal cupboard and he will find it bare. >> and he will. he will pull a sad face and tell us, oh, well, i would do something if i could, but all of a sudden i can't. >> and yet when, when this protest happens, all the legal powers in the world were suddenly given to him. >> and i want your viewers to know martin. it's been it's been ever since the blair government. well, actually , margaret well, actually, margaret thatcher started giving them extra powers that they've been handed powers like sweeties by every successive prime minister we've ever had. they have a massive bag. i mean , this is massive bag. i mean, this is like the world's biggest, halloween , halloween basket. halloween, halloween basket. they have just endless sweeties to use and to turn around and pretend they don't have them. is, is i mean, it's absurd. and that's why i called him out and

i wrote my article saying, giving the example of some of the powers that they have, i think, i think we, we see the point where we have to say that it's pushing at the boundaries of plausibility that that they don't know about these powers, given that they suddenly find them when they find a group, they don't like, and then they suddenly lose them when they find a group they do like. and how notable. >> i mean, just how notable that this all tracks along modern identity politics and that certain groups who are clearly considered at the bottom of the pyramid in identity politics, i.e. white working class men, are more than, you know, piled in on. >> but certain groups who are elevated in that what i that that rather odd political structure there, i get the benefit of it and i think , you benefit of it and i think, you know, that isn't that isn't free, that isn't fair that is not the rule of law. >> now, we've contacted the metropolitan police for comment throughout the day. they haven't got back to us yet, but of course they will deny these allegations strongly. and they would say, and i've talked to

them myself, i've implored them , them myself, i've implored them, steven, to arrest men at the pro—palestine marchers who were projecting those images onto big band. projecting those images onto big band . they didn't want to do band. they didn't want to do anything about that. i implored them to arrest man with full face balaclavas on at those marches, and they definitely didn't want to get involved. and there were no signs of horses or riot shields. but then they would say that the people on saint george's day were looking for trouble. they would say that, wouldn't they? but i spoke with a bunch of them yesterday who said that wasn't the case. what are they meant to do? are they in a bind? >> no, they are meant to police us all in exactly the same way . us all in exactly the same way. they are supposed to be free and fair and impartial in the application of their powers, and they've lost impartiality vie because they focus instead on things called like community coherence and pleasing certain people . people. >> and one of the great things i get to do in public life is i get to do in public life is i get to do in public life is i get to remain impartial, because i don't mind who i upset. >> now that is a sort of licence

to upset everybody. so i'm not not terribly lucky in that regard. but the minute you want to please people, the minute you want some people to like you, then you're not going to apply rules in a consistent way. and that's where the metropolitan police has gone. i always say that, you know, it's the road. the road to hell is paved with good intentions. so, you know , good intentions. so, you know, they want they see groups and they want they see groups and they want they see groups and they want to please them. and they want to please them. and they want to please them. and they want them to not feel punished. they want to feel them, not to feel victimised. they want them to feel that we are the good guys . and as are the good guys. and as a result, unfortunately, they're just not applying the law. and when you do that, things don't work. >> and as oppose the problem, they've they've had endless reports of their own where they've referred to themselves as institutionally, systemically racist. are they wearing such a hair shirt of that burden that they're almost going out of their way now to prove their the opposite thing? >> well, this is what happens. you see, they get people human. we're only we're all only human. so humans feel shame and then they feel guilty and then they want to make up for it. and in order to make up for it, they'll

do they'll do almost anything. and clearly the metropolitan police in particular have been very heavily shamed, quite rightly. but but nonetheless, they have been quite heavily shamed in the past. and then they try and make up for it. and what we end up with is unequal policing. and i do question how much longer the british people will tolerate unequal policing, because it is so contra to everything that we believe. i mean, i had cause to read the peelian principles and robert peelian principles and robert peel believed in equal policing and you know that the only reason we have a police force is to have equal policing. and i belong to one of these identity groups myself . i'm openly groups myself. i'm openly bisexual, so i don't want special treatment either. we all want equal treatment . that is want equal treatment. that is what will work. >> yeah. now the police, they maintain and they will repeat that there was a set route for the march, given they they claim that the group went outside of the agreed limits when they blocked the limit , they, the blocked the limit, they, the saint george's rallied, forced their way through. the police will say they were operating within the framework. they gave

out that would be what they say. and they say the same thing on the pro—palestine protest. there's an agreed route and if you break it, they are entitled to enforce that. that's what they would say , but they don't. they would say, but they don't. >> you see, i don't, unfortunately for the metropolitan police, i don't have the memory of a goldfish. and we have seen the pro—palestine marches go off the route. we saw an impromptu, what was it, al—quds demonstration . was it, al—quds demonstration. you know, we've seen the most outrageous of behaviour. completely ignored. we saw an order put in place, the face coverings could not be worn and then face coverings worn and nothing done by officers on it. so i'm afraid. and i do think this is the this is the poison of our age, that we live with this argument where there's two stage. martin, the first thing the authorities say is it's not happening. and then without missing a beat, once you catch them out, they turn round and 90, them out, they turn round and go, oh, well, anyway, it's a good thing. and actually, what we need to go back to is when they do that, we need to turn around and go, go old fashioned and say, well, hang on a second. your first statement was a lie.

and actually that's not right. and actually that's not right. and i want to live in a truthful society based on the rule of law. i don't like this sort of shallow. it's very narcissistic. it's very vain. they, you know, the metropolitan police care much more about how they're coming across than they do seem to care about solving crime. and that's not helpful for what we're all trying to achieve. >> okay. steven barrett, thank you very much for joining us >> okay. steven barrett, thank you very much forjoining us and you very much for joining us and giving us your expert insight as even giving us your expert insight as ever. thank you very much . now ever. thank you very much. now moving on. it's the final week to see how your next holiday could be on us here @gbnews. with your chance to win a greek cruise for two £10,000 in cash and luxury travel gifts, it's a prize worth over £20,000, and it could be yours. don't miss out and here's all the details that you need to enter. >> it's the final week to see how you can win our biggest prize yet. there's an incredible £10,000 in tax free cash to spend. however you like. plus, courtesy of variety cruises, a bespoke seven night small boat cruise for two worth £10,000 with flights, meals, excursions and drinks included , your next and drinks included, your next houday and drinks included, your next holiday could be on us. choose

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>> gb news is britain's election channel and from thursday, the 2nd of may, the people decide , 2nd of may, the people decide, as the country has the polls in as the country has the polls in a rush of elections . we'll take a rush of elections. we'll take you through the night as the first results come in. and we'll pick up at breakfast with the very best guests and analysis. >> and on the weekend, the results won't stop and neither will we. >> we'll explore what it all means for you as we look ahead to the general election, continuing coverage live from thursday the 2nd of may at midnight on . gb news. midnight on. gb news. >> welcome back. your time is 523. i'm martin daubney and this is gb news. now, a development on the rwanda bill which passed through parliament. if you recall earlier in the week, because ryanair ceo michael o'leary has stepped in and offered to help the government with some of those flights, an astonishing development. and i'm joined in our studio by our political editor , christopher

political editor, christopher hope to discuss this. chris, we've been saying for weeks and weeks and weeks, months and months, no commercial airline wants the reputational risk. the raf won't even get involved . raf won't even get involved. even the airfields themselves are too afraid to put themselves forward because of the protests. and now is this just a stunt ? and now is this just a stunt? >> well, the issue of reputational risk is one pushed out by the scheme's critics. but in truth, the government doesn't know. no one wants to get involved yet. and in fact, rishi sunak said that an airline is standing ready, an airfield is standing ready, an airfield is standing ready. i think the ryanair ceo, michael o'leary, been around. i've known him from way back when, in the early part of the century, when i was covering with business for the telegraph, he said, yeah, we'll happily take them. if you've got some space in winter, they've got a huge boeing fleet . got a huge boeing fleet. ryanair. why can't we just, you know, if it will get some money from the government to use the spare capacity. he says if it was a winter schedule and we had spare aircraft sitting around, if the air government were looking for additional deportation flights or any other flights, we would happily quote for the business. he's saying that because tomorrow the

quoting starts when we expect the king to give us legal assent . royal assent to this bill passed on monday. after much gnashing of teeth. and the peers, they'll they'll be open for bids for try and do it. here's michael o'leary saying there's some money to be made. i wonder whether if this is a start of a turning point on this policy. we heard from jenny chapman, baroness chapman, saying that labour could reverse its it's saying we're going to axe the scheme if 10,000 people take off, but yeah, it's interesting. it is. >> it could be quite the lifeline. i don't think any of us saw that coming. i still feel like it's a bit of a curve ball. i've been taken somewhat by surprise. but let's talk about rishi sunak second day of his transcontinental attempt to woo our european allies. yesterday it was poland in warsaw . today, it was poland in warsaw. today, berlin, germany, a new alliance after yesterday's £75 billion rollout. rishi sunak do you think he starts to look like? well, it's starting look pretty prime ministerial. >> he's showing his election fangs. martin to go back to three three working days. 123 assault on labour started with

getting the people who should be at work back into work. the government would say get them off benefits into work. that was friday. next working day monday, he said his rwanda plan with how we'll get the planes off, off, off, off the off the ground when they're cleared by the lords yesterday. huge hike in in labourin yesterday. huge hike in in labour in in in defence spending. labour itself has been left reeling . we heard earlier left reeling. we heard earlier though from emily thornberry. she's a shadow attorney general , she's a shadow attorney general, said several weeks ago that we wanted to move towards spending 2.5% on defence and indeed when we were in power last, that was about the amount of money that we were spending. >> but we will do it as as circumstances allow , we'll be circumstances allow, we'll be looking with some interest at whether or not the government produces any details in relation to this, because , you know, the to this, because, you know, the prime minister yesterday essentially committed to spending another £75 billion on defence by 2030. so they produced this 22 page document and not a single line of it was on where the money was coming from. now, hopefully it'll come

in the near future, just like we're hoping that they're going to give us the details on the £46 billion that it's going to cost them to get rid of national insurance. they haven't given us any details on that either. i mean, as we get closer to an election, we're going to get more and more of this, you know, and i know that your program will hold the government to account in the way that you hold us to account, and that if people want to say they want to spend money, they need to tell us where the money is going to come from, because in the end, it's the public that needs to spend to pay for it. >> well, that was emily thornberry earlier seeing a bit rattled, i think. is this because 12 days ago, chris, the labour party said that they would commit to an 4% two gdp. now the tories have done it first and she's changed her tune. >> they said when we can afford it. as the tory government said back in 2022, two prime ministers go boris johnson. the position has been one. we can afford it. we'll get the 2.5% by 2030. the difference is rishi sunak has found out how he thinks he can afford it by

cutting civil service jobs. labour can't do that. they'll save money on the civil service job cuts. the government says labour can't do it because they can't risk offending the public and public and commercial services union, which represent pubuc services union, which represent public service service sector workers. and that's the problem. that's why i think there's a problem here for the labour party. they are going to have to sit with being weak on defence going into the election campaign and the only firm those plans up after the election, if they win power with a big strategy document. so i think the tories have had a quite a good few days. >> it does actually feel for the first time, perhaps in quite some time. chris that the labour party are having to be the ones responding to what the conservatives are doing. as you keep saying, rishi sunak seems to be in the in the foetal position, taking quite a battering. wes streeting taking a lead on the part. privatisation of the nhs. this, this looks like maybe they're getting on a front foot last. >> yeah. and it needs to. it's self—preservation. he's got a difficult week next week, the back end of it with the local elections , the mayoral elections elections, the mayoral elections in some of our biggest cities,

the tories are trailing way behind in the polls. he's come out fighting probably just in time. he wants to lead this party into the next election. and a past few days has shown me why, how he'll do it. >> do you think it will work? because elections aren't won and lost on defence policy, on foreign policy, it's the pounds and the pence in the pocket and it's on things like immigration. could ryanair be the curve ball none of us saw coming? >> well it could be if they can. i think that foreign affairs definitely is not an election winner really. although it can damage the government as it did with iraq war in 2005 and the labour administration. but i think it's keeping us safe . and think it's keeping us safe. and that's what the tories can almost try and say will guarantee it. labour can't guarantee it. labour can't guarantee it. labour can't guarantee it. and that is called an election. dividing line. >> i wonder if it would be enough. when will the next poll be out, do you think? when can we expect to see a poll that will reflect all of this? because they're desperate for an upfick because they're desperate for an uptick the weekend? >> probably, i think i mean, whether anyone outside of our really informed viewers on gb

news or enough of them are watching it. i mean, it takes a while for this stuff to sink through, but they should really be driving home this message that we will keep you safe. labour can't say that yet, because they're not going to say how they're going to get to 2.5% of spending on gdp. superb stuff. >> always a pleasure to have you in the studio, chris. hope, our political editor. i'm still reeling about the ryanair thing. maybe that's just me. there's lots more still to come between now and 6:00, and we're expecting an update from the school in wales where a teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after two teachers and a teenage pupil were stabbed there earlier today. but first, it's time for your latest news headlines and it's ray addison . it's ray addison. >> thanks, martin. it's 530. and as we've been hearing, a teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after two teenage teachers and a teenage student were stabbed at a school in wales. the suspect remains in custody . a man valley remains in custody. a man valley school was put into lockdown

shortly after 11 am. after three people were injured. emergency services responded, including wales air ambulance . including wales air ambulance. pupils have now been released to their worried parents, who were gathered outside of the school gates . three men have been gates. three men have been arrested following the deaths of five migrants, including a young girl, as they attempted to cross the channel yesterday. those detained include two sudanese men, aged 22 and 19, and a 22 year old south sudan national. it comes as figures from the home office show that more than 400 migrants crossed the channel yesterday . a man has been yesterday. a man has been charged after a nine year old girl was kidnapped in knightsbridge in central london. 56 year old robert prussack was charged with multiple offences including kidnap and sexual assault. the child was reported missing on brompton road in london on monday. >> the deputy prime minister says he's confident the

government will keep its promise to reform housing laws, including banning no fault evictions and leaseholds . evictions and leaseholds. >> but there was some uncertainty at today's pmqs over the effectiveness of the reforms. labour's deputy leader said the leasehold ban wouldn't apply said the leasehold ban wouldn't apply to the majority of people , apply to the majority of people, with ground rents now capped instead of being cut altogether . instead of being cut altogether. angela rayner said the government had made empty promises . the head of tiktok promises. the head of tiktok says the social media app isn't going anywhere after president biden signed a law that could see it banned in the us . it's see it banned in the us. it's after growing concerns over the potential for the chinese government to influence its algorithm and content. the new law would force tiktok's chinese owner to sell or face a ban . for owner to sell or face a ban. for the latest news headlines, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. common shirts.

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and support for their country, making you a target for rough, robust policing. my question is this are the british police now anti—british ? jade has this. anti—british? jade has this. there's an undercurrent at every pro—hamas march, yet nothing is ever done. it's two tier policing and most people know that well, somebody who isn't afraid to talk about that. in fact , she monstered it last fact, she monstered it last night is michelle dewberry , who night is michelle dewberry, who joins me now, of course, dewbs& co six till seven. michelle always a pleasure. what's on your menu tonight, martin? >> well, yeah, of course. you know, you imagine if your kids, your grandkids are at school and your grandkids are at school and you get that call to say that that school is in lockdown. i mean, it must be absolutely terrifying. so i want to look at what on earth is going on when it comes to young people and some of their behaviour. it comes to young people and some of their behaviour . we hear some of their behaviour. we hear about things like stabbings and knife crimes all the time. but what is the answer to it all and anyone out there? have you got a simple answer? if you do, can you tell me it please? because i'm at a loss as to how on earth

we fix all this. but i also want to ask. there's been a committee taking place today, looking at arms sales over to israel . arms sales over to israel. should this still be happening? should this still be happening? should it be paused? fascinating to hear everybody's views on that. well, i can tell you now, my panel completely disagree . i my panel completely disagree. i also want to ask as well whether or not council should essentially, martin, be selling the family silver to help clear up their debts. the family silver to help clear up their debts . and if i've got up their debts. and if i've got time, i want to squeeze it in. should serving politicians be presenting shows on radio and television? do you think they should? >> well, it's obviously a topic close to our home, i think. well why not? so long as they don't present news, those are the regulations, michelle, about that school in wales. can you imagine picking your kid up at home time as normal with them, having go through what they've been through today? michelle, i don't think i'd ever let my kid go well, but you know what i find interesting? >> and obviously i don't condone breaking of the rules, but if i got a call to say that my child was at school nurse or wherever , was at school nurse or wherever, and there was an incident and there was in lockdown, i would be straight at those doors and i'd be doing everything that i possibly could to get in and get my child out of there. it must

be absolutely terrifying . be absolutely terrifying. >> okay, that's all dewbs& co 6 or 7 michelle dewberry. thank you so much forjoining us on the show. now, a man who served in the special forces during the second world war, a celebrated his 102nd birthday in style at a five star hotel in london. and heianed five star hotel in london. and he invited gb news along to share his special day's

welcome back. it's five 3039. i'm martin daubney on gb news now . the last surviving member now. the last surviving member of a special forces regiment dunng of a special forces regiment during world war ii has fulfilled his lifelong dream to dine at the ritz hotel in london. as he celebrated his 102nd birthday in style . chelsea 102nd birthday in style. chelsea pensioner john morris volunteered for the pensionerjohn morris volunteered for the raiding support regiment and took part in the allied invasion of italy, and cameron walker went along to meet him . meet him. >> war is not glamorous.

meet him. >> war is not glamorous . we >> war is not glamorous. we thought it was actually when you're young . you're young. >> john morris is the last surviving member of his sas regiment from the second world war. before joining the special forces, his service began in kent, shooting down german bombers targeting london. >> the only thing i shot down, actually was a chimney kitchen chimney. accidentally by mistake. nobody had any breakfast that morning. i wasn't very popular. >> john was one of the last people to receive a 100th birthday card from queen elizabeth ii . elizabeth ii. >> all birthday cards from the children from christ church school celebrating his 102nd birthday this week . birthday this week. >> local school children made him cards thanking him for his bravery. >> i think kids should know more about the sacrifice their forefathers made . not me. i'm no forefathers made. not me. i'm no hero, but they , like they were

hero, but they, like they were the raf boys who died and people like that . they don't realise like that. they don't realise that they don't know much about it. they don't even know who hitler was. half of them. >> john, who's now a chelsea pensioner, kindly agreed to share his wartime memories. in 1943 he was sent to north africa with the royal artillery and past special forces selection, taking part in the allied invasion of italy . invasion of italy. >> 75,000 british and colonial troops were killed in italy as the germans fought back very well . well. >> ultimately, the allies were successful, but a much more powerful natural threat was not far away. mount vesuvius, famous for destroying the roman town of pompeii in ad 79, erupted . pompeii in ad 79, erupted. >> ad i woke up in the morning, i heard this rumble, looked outside and this wall of lava coming down. so never go on a volcanic island where i am, because it's very dangerous. >> that year, allied forces landed on the beaches of

normandy, known as d—day. landed on the beaches of normandy, known as d—day . the normandy, known as d—day. the operation led to the liberation of western europe and was one of the most famous and widely praised successes of the war. far away in italy , john and his far away in italy, john and his comrades were branded with a less than flattering nickname , less than flattering nickname, turned into a popular wartime song. >> already done three days we did the north african landing , did the north african landing, we did the battle of britain , we did the battle of britain, and we did the italian landing. we did the yugoslav savoia, albania, and they called us d—day dodgers for, well, a dictator charges out into late i >> -- >> john celebrated his 102nd in

style. first, a party with the chelsea pensioners , followed by chelsea pensioners, followed by a champagne lunch organised by friend and irish guards ambassador frederick crum. the ritz always had a wonderful relationship with the chelsea pensioners. >> we celebrate in style and he's never been to the ritz, so that will be worthy of the 102nd birthday, right? john that's right. >> cameron walker gb news. >> cameron walker gb news. >> fantastic stuff. and happy birthday, john morris. the very best of british. now i'm going to talk to you about deep fakes and why they could play a crucial role in the next general election . i'm martin daubney on

welcome back 546. we're on the final furlong . i'm martin final furlong. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. could deep fakes play a crucial role in the next general election ? in the next general election? well, rishi sunak and sir keir starmer have already been

victims of deep fakes. but what are they? and how dangerous could they be? well, joining me now in the studio is the broadcaster and lawyer andrew eborn, and i'm rejoined by gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson to find out how big a deal this could be. andrew let's start with you. so in a nutshell, what are deep fakes and why should we be concerned? and who's been probed? oh, i'll tell you what everybody should be terrified about deep fakes. >> because basically i can make you do, say, dance whatever i want you to do. >> all as a result of artificial intelligence. >> and what's happening is that 2 billion people are going to the polls this year. >> and at the same time, ai is going to have the biggest influence on elections ever. and you might remember, we had , good you might remember, we had, good old, rishi who was pulling a pint and they did that fake pint. >> they made it look as though he wasn't pulling it properly. i put up a couple of images there. the one on the left makes it look really dodgy. look at the girl's eyes. >> and she's sort of saying, well, hang about. >> what on earth are you doing?

>> what on earth are you doing? >> so the one on the left is the fight. the one on the left is it makes him look like an incompetent pineapple, which, of course would decimate his votes. he would, in my eyes anyway. and the one on the right is the original. so all of these things i always say question everything. it's a diseased information age, and you have to work on that sort of basis, especially i will influence basically what's going to happen. and it's been rolled out in other countries too. tell us about some others. >> so slovakia, basically the elections there might have been the first swung by deepfakes, a pro—kremlin populist one in power there. >> and what happened days before the election, a video emerged. >> an audio as well, with him sort of saying how he's going to rig the election and all the people suddenly say, well, hang on, if he's going to rig the election, we're going to vote against him. >> so he lost. >>— >> so he lost. >> they had that in different things in indonesia. >> they had an avatar of a previous person endorsing one of the candidates, and they have all these audio recordings as well. >> so fake audios are going all over the place at the moment. and we've had a few in this country as well. so tell us about a case you mentioned of a politician speaking in a foreign language, obviously designed to try and appeal to people of that ethnic persuasion, but it was a

fake. who was it? >> so the number of people say it was basically in india, they had that with a different elections there. and the member of the party was turning around, and he's spoken all the different dialects, and people were incredibly impressed that he could do that, because he could appeal to that. but also in new york, the mayor there was basically phoning lots of people up, and he was speaking mandarin , he was speaking french and all the different peoples, whatever language they wanted on that sort of basis. >> and he openly admitted, well , >> and he openly admitted, well, of course i'm using this. >> i'm trying to appeal to the people. so i'm using technology to do that. >> well, it sounds like a very 21st way, 21st century and persuasive way to get votes. and i believe andrew, you've actually made yourself into several multilingual political genii. why don't we start with you, andrew, as an englishman, which, of course you are . which, of course you are. >> hello, i'm andrew eborn. we're living in a diseased information age. there's never been a more important time to question everything. so join me , question everything. so join me, andrew eborn for andrew eban's fake or fact . fake or fact. >> so that's the genuine andrew.

now here is the italian andrew eborn salvation. andrew eborn viviamo in un era malata delle informazioni non e stato un aumento piu importante per tutto un via me andrew eborn, per il programma di andrew eborn fake or fact , i'm gonna say mamma or fact, i'm gonna say mamma miai i'm convinced. but that's not all. we're just getting warmed up. let's look at the chinese. andrew eborn . was born . chinese. andrew eborn. was born. >> shin bet . >> shin bet. >> shin bet. >> so , andrew. now, on the one >> so, andrew. now, on the one hand, we're having a laugh. yes. it's a very fun thing, but, nigel nelson, i want to bring you in because this will start to be increasingly deployed , to be increasingly deployed, both in ways to appeal by pretending to be multilingual, but also in ways to attack. we've already seen attacks on,

on on labour mps and indeed on rishi sunak. matt hancock had the worst pint on the planet. rishi sunak followed. people do believe these things, don't they? that could be a problem. >> that's the danger and i think that what we've just seen there is great fun. that's fine, the real problem is what happens when the russians start doing it. so russian foreign policy since the cold war has been to destabilise the west by planting fake news disinformation. this takes it to a whole new level, what they used to do was, was so—called auto generated bikini bots. so it was , stolen pictures bots. so it was, stolen pictures of scantily clad young women pumping out messages every ten minutes. used in 2016 for donald trump's election. they kept repeating his tweets, so amplifying everything that happened. amplifying everything that happened . but also they can happened. but also they can plant conspiracy theories, covid and conspiracy theories as an example. they can divide people by pretending to be on different sides. and so it goes on. this

takes it even further and is much more serious because it's much more serious because it's much more serious because it's much more believable. >> and andrew has this actually, provably affected elections already? oh, absolutely. >> i gave those examples in argentina. it worked. and that sort of basis in slovakia it sort of basis in slovakia it sort of basis in slovakia it sort of morad tahbaz. and what's interesting, i did one take on that just this afternoon, and it's a really brilliant software. lazar vukovic and dmitri kibkalo and what they've done, you can basically dub into several languages automatically. >> so you imagine how powerful that is. >> and things are only going to get better and better on that sort of basis. so it will happen. i always say question everything. we're living in a diseased information age where if it's too good to be true, it definitely is. >> and nigel, we've already seen, you know , chinese seen, you know, chinese interference. you know, tiktok is being talked about today as a way of affecting british politics. as you said , the politics. as you said, the russians. so exterior hostile actors could also compromise this sort of technology. >> that's where it becomes really dangerous at the moment, if political parties wanted to use it, the answer is they should say so, some news websites in this country use it,

but they actually tell you they're using ai but they actually tell you they're using al to generate some content. the big danger is if a hostile power wants to get what wants to use this stuff, and we just won't know where it's coming from , andrew, should it's coming from, andrew, should we be concerned or will it be obvious to spot. no, it won't be obvious to spot. no, it won't be obvious to spot at all. and it's got better and better. >> the audio fakes. this is why you fool everybody. because we're living, as i say, in an age when fact is stranger than fiction . you know, you get all fiction. you know, you get all sorts of videos released, all sorts of videos released, all sorts of videos released, all sorts of scandals coming out. most of those will be false now, and i guarantee we're going to get far more of these fake videos every single day. i'm seeing more and more of them. >> superb. thank you very much. andrew eborn and nigel nelson. the concept of deep fakes. how concerned should we be now? earlier in the show, we spoke about an incident yesterday afternoon when the metropolitan police officers clashed with people who were at a saint george's day march, where the last few minutes the metropolitan police has told us that the police officers did not close down any pubs. they told

us that they engaged with licensed premises in the westminster area, as is common as part of such an event, and one pub chose to close voluntary . i was in the area, that's not quite what i saw, but look, the police have just repeated that there was a voluntary closure on saint george's day. there had been a number of arrests at a pub further up towards trafalgar square, and so a voluntary they are saying the last few minutes the met have told us that they did not close down any pubs. they engaged with licensed premises in the westminster area, as is common, and one pub chose to close voluntarily . chose to close voluntarily. well, that's it from me, but dewbs& co is up next. don't forget from breakfast at 6 am. it's stephen and ellie and then it's stephen and ellie and then it's britain's newsroom at 930 with andrew and bev. and then tom and emily with good afternoon britain from midday . afternoon britain from midday. i'll be back at 3:00. that'll be my mush on your screens there. and i'm martin daubney and this is gb news. but now it's time

for your weather with aidan mcgivern. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar for sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hi there and welcome to the latest update from the met office for gb news. the odd shower towards the south today, but otherwise it's fine with sunny spells, especially for much of scotland and northern ireland where we've got an area of high pressure towards the northwest of the uk. however, we've still got this northerly breeze bringing cool conditions countrywide and it's going to feel especially cool on the nonh feel especially cool on the north sea coast. feel especially cool on the north sea coast . any showers in north sea coast. any showers in the south will disappear into the south will disappear into the evening, but there'll be further showers into the north and east of scotland, northeast england and 1 or 2 developing across wales and western england . now where we avoid the showers, where we get some clear spells , temperatures will fall spells, temperatures will fall away at such a frost first thing

on thursday , a chilly start on thursday, a chilly start especially for parts of scotland, northern ireland, central england. however, despite the chill, plenty of sunshine first thing and we keep the largely fine and sunny weather for western scotland , weather for western scotland, northwest england, for example. elsewhere, a bit more cloud compared with today and a few more showers developing, particularly for parts of england and wales, eastern scotland. still, that cool breeze for the north sea coast. 8 or 9 celsius at best for some nonh 8 or 9 celsius at best for some north sea areas, but otherwise highs elsewhere into the double figures. now friday starts off frosty, a chilly start in the east of england in particular, but otherwise a few showers and some sunny spells expected. more unsettled weather arrives from the south through the weekend. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

attempted murder and multiple people hurt . attempted murder and multiple people hurt. i'm asking you, how on earth do we stop this kind of stuff? also, should we still be exporting arms to israel? i'm asking off the back of a parliamentary committee session today, which looked at exactly that question, and many councils right now are in an absolute mess, let's face it. but i'm asking you, is the answer then essentially selling off their family jewels , their assets? is family jewels, their assets? is it common sense that or a bit of short terms thinking? and ofcom has today updated its guidelines about whether or not politicians should be able to present tv and radio programmes, should they or

. not. i've got all that to come