are very welcome to breakfast. you are joining eamonn holmes and isabel webster and happy saint george's day. >> the rwanda bill passes through parliament. the historic, far reaching legislation set to become law after eight hours of debate last night. so when will the flights take off and happy saint george's day to you all. >> we'll be looking at the meaning and the celebrations behind england's patron saint throughout the show the president, the porn star and the payments. >> donald trump's hush money trial against stormy daniels has begun with allegations he tried to corrupt the 2016 election and

in the sport this morning, nottingham forest still seem to think the world's against them and now want the audio of the contentious refereeing decisions released. >> leeds united back in the automatic promotion. places to head back to the premier league and a four time world champion in him, considers retirement morning. >> whilst it is the middle of spring, it's not necessarily going to feel it with a bit of a cool feel for some of us and a bit of rain at times. two i'll have more details coming up. >> so after five months of deadlock, the rwanda bill has finally passed through parliament. it's poised to become law after peers ended their standoff over the controversial policy. >> while the showdown comes after the prime minister declared that enough is enough and said mps and peers will sit through the night to get the bill passed.

>> so it now designates rwanda as a safe country and will allow the government to deport asylum seekers to there. >> let's get some analysis this morning from the political commentator benedict spence, who joins us in the studio. good morning to you, benedict. it was a late night, perhaps not late, as late as some people feared it might be a slog. nevertheless, for the government, what happens now.7 are for the government, what happens now? are we going to see these flights taking off? >> well, i suppose that's the key thing. this is not a straightforward case of the government's passing this law, and everything's hunky dory and the flights can just take off. there will be legal challenges. we've seen that before. we saw that initially when all the way back when priti patel first floated this policy and there were talks about getting flights off the ground, actually there's been legal challenge after legal challenge, including, of course, the supreme court ruling the policy unlawful. so there is still, i think , a little bit of still, i think, a little bit of way to go. rishi sunak himself said that the other day. he said that this between sorry yesterday, between 10 to 12 weeks. he anticipates until they expect flights to get off the ground so he will miss his spnng ground so he will miss his spring deadline, unless he's

also going to pass a law to change when spring is. but nonetheless, this is movement of a sort. this has been sort of struck by deadlock for so long. it has become emblematic of the government's inability to pass key legislation. so i think it will be a relief to everybody that they have actually managed to get something passed the house of lords. >> so as it stands, benedict, we are ready to go. rwanda is ready to receive. yes. >> well, we are ready to go in the sense that we obviously have the sense that we obviously have the people that we want to send, but we do not necessarily have the carriers yet. this is going to be the next the next issue is getting flights on a regular bafis getting flights on a regular basis and getting people to agree to actually take people and the government obviously has decided it doesn't want to purchase planes of its own for this purpose. it wants to use commercially available services. that's going to be a bit tricky because actually nobody really wants to be tarred with the brush of a very controversial immigration policy such as this that has caused quite so much concern . you know, the labour concern. you know, the labour party referring to it as an expensive gimmick in various corners. people have called it an abuse of human rights,

racist. what have you. so that's the sort of thing that actually an airline might not want to associate itself with. >> but i suppose if the money is right and well, i'll tell you, i wouldn't like to be on a scheduled airline going to rwanda with goodness knows how many migrants on it. what sort of security would it take, say they decided on board? you know what, we don't want to go here from a personal perspective, this has always been something that i've not quite understood. >> other countries do have specialised aircraft to deport people. i don't know why. for some reason, we've decided that this isn't a thing that we want to pursue, but that is the choice that they've decided to make. it, i suppose, is played into one of the many things that has played into this policy. being held up has been that difficulty, rishi sunak will live or die by this ultimately. >> yeah. but the united nations have said that the flight carriers actually stand the chance of being sued for breach of international law if they do take these flights, just use military aircraft. there's a dilemma for them . and we have dilemma for them. and we have nigel farage yesterday saying, mark my words , we will not see mark my words, we will not see a single person being exported or

extradited, not even the correct word. what's the word? i'm looking for this morning? >> we don't even know. >> we don't even know. >> deported. there we go. sorry, it's taking me a while. this morning. it's very early, to rwanda. because even though there is this sort of amendment of section 39 that ministers are allowed to ignore it, there's now human rights legislation that has been built in to our legal system here, which means there'll just be legal challenge after legal challenge . after legal challenge. >> as i say, it's going to be a long slog. and i think actually even rishi sunak, 10 to 12 week timeline is a little ambitious. i think that that's probably the best case scenario, after which time we will have already had the local elections. who knows if rishi sunak will even be in a position to be pushing forward this this policy? a lot of people seem to think that if it doesn't go very well for him, there may even be a leadership challenge, i, i must admit, i'm thinking the way nigel farage thinks. i mean, it just. you just cannot imagine this going ahead. now, what about our friends at the european court of human rights? will they be rearing up about this? >> i think that they'll be looking at this very carefully , looking at this very carefully, obviously, but there's also a

lot of interest from other countries who have floated the idea of pursuing similar policies , denmark being one. so policies, denmark being one. so it's not simply a case of little old britain deciding that it's going to take on the echr alone. should that come to it, there are going to be other interested parties who have had major issues with the massive influxes of illegal migrants claiming refuge there that they can't do anything with. i mean, in denmark's case, it decided it was going to recognise parts of syria safe, even though it doesn't recognise the syrian government. in a desperate bid to try to send people back. so there are all kinds of legal obstacles that lots of countries in europe are facing. so whilst there are, as you say, legal mechanisms against this, i think there is an increasing sort of fervour and increasing mood for some solution to be found because this isn't sustainable. >> and even labour have talked about offshoring, haven't they, in some way. and we've got a yvette cooper on the programme, the shadow home secretary, a little bit later on, we can ask her whether they'd be jettisoning this legislation as soon as they get in, or whether or not if it works as a deterrent, if the flights do go off, they might actually decide, maybe we will keep it. it'll be

interesting how she plays it this morning. i mean, she was in fact the one, i think yesterday who described it as an expensive gimmick and i suppose half £1 billion for a scheme that will only cover 1% of asylum seekers, she said. >> yes, which is very much a query that i and a lot of other people have. but i suppose the alternative is what i would imagine a much more expensive scheme. what are you going to build? permanent detention centres in the uk? are you going to purchase those uk government flights to send people? there are no cheap options to solving this. as much as people say, just invest in speeding up processing people, that doesn't necessarily solve it. if you're just saying approve, approve, approve or denied. but we have no way of getting rid of you. i mean, we've got the home secretary visiting italy this week to see if they can, stem the flow of migrants at source, yeah. how do you think he'll get on? >> not well, not well. the italian government giorgia meloni, who has been sort of, you know, pilloried across europe as being this sort of far right firebrand has summarily failed to stem the tide of migrants into italy in the first place. in fact, a lot of the electorate in italy consider her now not right wing enough, not

hardline enough. the problem is that in italy in particular, they don't necessarily have the resources to stem people from coming across the mediterranean in the numbers that they are , to in the numbers that they are, to do that, you would have to have a lot more control in tripoli, in libya . you'd actually have to in libya. you'd actually have to probably have boots on the ground there. and nobody wants to do that. the italian government has been able to strike up a unique, arrangement with albania, but that's because they have a unique relationship andifs they have a unique relationship and it's not actually in italy's interests. once migrants land, there to keep them there, it's also not in the interests of the migrants themselves. there's a reason that italy is having a demographic crisis far worse than we have young people leave because there are no jobs. the same reason happens when migrants get to italy and they see that there are no jobs. so they move north and italy does not want to keep a hold of these people. >> why would it just just a final thought. i always think it's worth remembering what a small percentage of net migration these illegal crossings are. i think it was 30,000 last year, with three quarters of a million people coming into this country. most of those legally. i think the figures 672,000 of those, sorry, 634,000 of those were students

that the government have said, come on in. and, you know, all this legislation for 30,000, but thousands and thousands of these people coming in and never leaving , i think that's the leaving, i think that's the great big sort of smoke and mirrors about all of this. >> is that the government has made a big song and dance about illegal migration, which, let's be clear, you cannot take yourself seriously as a government if you can't police your own borders. but yes, actually the pressures that are being put on the system, on services, on the economy is not from illegal migrants. it's very much from legal migration. yeah. >> the size of a city of glasgow every year. >> yes. you can't sustain that if you don't build a city the size of glasgow every year, with all of its accompanying infrastructure and obviously we're not doing that. >> benedict, appreciate your thoughts. thank you very much indeed. benedict spence there, so what do you think? we want your views this morning. get in touch with us. the rwanda flights, will they take off? will they be successful? what do you think about using scheduled aircraft to carry the migrants to rwanda? and would you buy a seat on board a plane like that?

gbnews.com forward slash your say, please have it now . say, please have it now. >> of course it is april the 23rd. that means it is saint george's day. and communities across the country are gathering to celebrate england's patron saint. >> well, red crosses are flying against white backgrounds. knights are dusting off their chainmail. yet some are asking who is saint george? and why should you celebrate him? >> well, our east midlands reporter will hollis has the story come rain or shine . story come rain or shine. >> colin, from carlton in nottingham, will celebrate saint george's day. he's been decorating his home with the saint george's cross for 30 years. it matches because 23rd of april is saint george's day and we've been forgotten about and we've been forgotten about and we've been forgotten about and we've got to show our identity and show our patriotism . in the city centre, size matters. england's biggest flag covers nottingham's council house. it appears every year many welcome it. some are

indifferent. >> i think it's amazing, i do, i think it's absolutely amazing andifs think it's absolutely amazing and it's proud for something in our country. >> i think it's really good to see it up there. it's good to see it up there. it's good to see a celebration of, of england. the country. >> it's a flag. it's. yes. yeah i didn't even realise it was there for me. >> the red cross against white is saint george's emblem and the nation's flag. saint george has been celebrated as england's patron saint since the 14th century, but long before english knights wore the red cross over their armour while riding into battle , his story was being told battle, his story was being told in other parts of the world. legend states that george was a dragon slaying knight . history dragon slaying knight. history traces him to modern day turkey, a roman soldier who died defending christianity . in defending christianity. in london, the royal society of saint george, a patriotic but non—political group, paraded

with hundreds of cadets at the weekend . nick hewer is chairman. weekend. nick hewer is chairman. >> a lot of our fundamental beliefs and things that we hold dear are being undermined. so i think it's important we come together and celebrate him as a unifying factor. >> here at the cenotaph , >> here at the cenotaph, england's fallen heroes are honoured alongside the patron saint, laying a wreath ahead of the 80th anniversary of the normandy landings. d—day veteran henry rice, a proud englishman aged 98. >> we were taught all all this and it was so proud to just be english, saint george . yeah, english, saint george. yeah, he's a great guy and he patriotism is sometimes criticised. >> english history isn't perfect , but a community of all cultures can cherish saint george. back in carlton. colin's raising a different flag with a traditional anglo—saxon dragon . traditional anglo—saxon dragon. >> i present george, they have a great day. >> will hollis gb news in

nottingham . nottingham. >> well, are you going to have a great day? let us know what you're doing to commemorate and mark saint george's day. joining us now, royal historian and columnist martin whittock martin, just just a bit, i don't understand is saint george never actually set foot in england ? so actually set foot in england? so how does he then become the patron saint of england ? patron saint of england? >> that's a very good question, the original george , according the original george, according to tradition, was a cappadocian greek who lived in what is now central turkey. there was no turkey at the time, completely different, it was a greek speaking area. cappadocia and greek, who was martyred for his faith. according to tradition, under the roman emperor diocletian and according to tradition, martyred in what we now call central israel, in an 11th century source. he's then given the idea of the role of fighting a dragon. but in libya, so you've got what is now turkey. you've got what is now israel, you've got what is now

libya. what's going on here? he became a very, very popular military saint because he was a roman soldier and because he died for his faith. and it particularly took off from the 11th and 12th century onwards, following the crusades. this idea of martial christianity in the early medieval period. he's then in 1222, he's given his first role as having an official day set aside for him in this country. and he's then picked up again by warrior kings , edward again by warrior kings, edward the third and henry the fifth. in the 14th and 15th century. but his roots go back to this quite extraordinary story of martyrdom in the late roman empire. but he caught people's imagination. he patron saint in georgia, in the caucasus of moscow, in russia, of bosnia, herzegovina , and of course, of herzegovina, and of course, of england. so he is internationally popular as this heroic soldier who died for his

faith. but, as you say, a quite extraordinary route that got to that point in 1222, when the engush that point in 1222, when the english kings began to think he is our patron saint, english kings began to think he is our patron saint , this is our patron saint, this country. before that, the patron saint was much more inclined to be edward the confessor, who was a late anglo saxon king, but he did not have a particular reputation as a warrior, and so he gets replaced by george from the 13th century onward. and a spoiler alert, of course, because sir andrew never got to scotland either. so in distinction to the welsh saint david and the irish saint patrick, who were all associated with their countries, saint george and saint andrew didn't actually get to the countries which celebrate them. >> okay, so do you think that might be part of the reason, then, that we don't embrace our national day in the same way as, say, our irish counterparts charts? or do you think it is

more to do with, as some people claim, that the saint george's flag has been claimed by political parties, football fans, you know, a lot of people sort of shy away from it now. >> i think it's due to a cocktail of reasons, until the reformation in 16th century, he was incredibly popular, incredibly popular. there were saint george's day ridings when people went out on horseback, dressed up as saint george . huge dressed up as saint george. huge amount of stuff going on. and then he crashed and burned, in 1547, 1548, during the protestant reformation, because he was a saint and catholic saints were out. he then comes back a bit under queen elizabeth, but not very big at all. and he never really comes back into favour again until the 19th century, when suddenly there's a burst of interest in saint george. he hits a peak again in the 1930s, and after the second world war, he just kind of fizzles out again. and i think part of the problem is that he isn't actually directly associated with the country . you associated with the country. you know, as somebody who actually was here, i think that's part of it. i think it's also because

people feel or have felt that he's been kind of annexed by a particular part of the political spectrum, though that shouldn't stop him being celebrated by everybody. and i think it also is because over the years, engush is because over the years, english people have not felt under pressure in the in the uk in the way in which at times maybe scots, irish and welsh people have who've kind of rallied around their saint. but he's an ideal saint for a complicated , multicultural complicated, multicultural country. cappadocian greek , country. cappadocian greek, executed in the middle east, whose legend then takes him to nonh whose legend then takes him to north africa. well, what's not to like about somebody that speaks about all of this and then dies for his christian faith? i think he does speak to a complicated multicultural country. yes. there we go . country. yes. there we go. >> a diversity candidate if ever there was one. i'm not sure if that will increase his popularity or not. martin whittock , royal historian and whittock, royal historian and columnist. thanks for joining us.thank columnist. thanks for joining us. thank you. martin, lots of you getting in touch on gbnews.com/yoursay this morning, john andrews, happy saint george's day, stewart mac, happy saint george's day. be proud.

have a great day . lots of people have a great day. lots of people saying how they'll be celebrating buying red roses just as soon as the florists open. people saying that they've got their flags flying. and we should point out stephen and ellie are out and about today for us on gb news at saint george's day parade, where where is that? >> dartford? there in dartford , >> dartford? there in dartford, so look forward to seeing them live from there shortly, in other news, the prime minister today is set to visit germany, where he will announce a £500 million aid package, a military aid package to ukraine. it's the largest provision of munitions so far. some 400 vehicles, 60 boats, 1600 strike and air defence missiles and 4 million rounds of ammunition in the package. >> a former parliamentary researcher and another man have been charged with spying for china after an investigation by counter—terrorism police, 29 year old christopher cash and christopher berry, who's 32, have been charged under the

official secrets act and both will appear at westminster magistrates court on friday. the met police say the allegations are extremely serious as children as young as three coerced into sexual abuse acts online, according to the to a report by the internet watchdog foundation. >> the organisation said opportunistic internet predators were directing children remotely and often recording them without their knowledge . their knowledge. >> the miserable condition of our roads has been revealed again. new data from the rac has vehicle breakdowns risen by 9% last year due to potholes. that is despite the government promising over £8 billion in extra funding to fix potholes over the next decade. it's estimated the cost of bringing pothole plagued local roads in england wales up to scratch has been, tabled at £163 england wales up to scratch has been, tabled at £16.3 billion.

>> day two of donald trump in court in new york is the second day of what's been called one of the most high profile criminal cases in american history. >> yes, the court's already heard prosecutors claim that the former president orchestrated a criminal conspiracy to corrupt the 2016 election, and that his alleged cover up of a hush money payment to a porn star did break the law. >> okay, let's now go to former nevada republican party chairwoman amy tarkanian on this. amy, very nice to see you again. and, amy, want to be here? yeah. what i didn't realise was he's got to turn up in court every day, and he he makes a point of the political politicisation of this because as when he's in court, he's not on the campaign trail for , for on the campaign trail for, for the election. any sympathy with him on that front? >> no, not at all. because of the other scenarios that he's also having to deal with, those are not criminal cases. those

are not criminal cases. those are civil cases. and he still made the decision even though it wasn't mandatory for him to show up , you know, occasionally. and up, you know, occasionally. and i think he benefited from that. and he knows that, every time he showed up, he was able to gain sympathy from his base and actually capitalise , from actually capitalise, from sending out mass fundraising emails on a regular basis. so, you know, he still has his, some free time where he can go campaign. i know that he attempted to host a rally over the weekend and i believe north carolina, but due to bad weather, he had to back out. but he's he's still campaigning. you better believe it. and even though he has a gag order, which he has a tough time following, he, from what i understand, behaved today inside the courtroom. but as soon as he stepped outside the courtroom , stepped outside the courtroom, he had addressed to the media and continued to open his mouth and continued to open his mouth and complain once again. >> i mean , think of the savings >> i mean, think of the savings to his campaign funds instead of

having to put up these expensive rallies, he just goes to court, sits in the same chair every day for week after week, and has wall to wall coverage. so, you know, it's got to be a win for him in that respect. can you just explain to us? because a lot of this and amy and i have talked about this in the past, if it was happening in britain, it just i mean, it just wouldn't be happening in britain, put it that way. but can you explain the role of these catch and kill defences? now this all comes down to stories that could perhaps ruin his reputation, trump is arguing it's normal to try and catch stories like this in relation to, say this porn star. he wanted to protect his family. he wanted to protect his reputation. but the prosecution is saying actually, that was about him not, being damaged on the electoral trail. how normal are these catch and kill stories for politicians in the united states ? have you encountered states? have you encountered them because you're an experienced politician ? experienced politician? >> no, i have not experienced them. i will say, though, that there are, you know, sometimes members of the media who who do try to dig up some dirt or to,

try to dig up some dirt or to, try to dig up some dirt or to, try to create controversy when there is none, that's pretty normal. but the catch and kill scenario today the prosecution laid out, the fact that this certain case was abnormal and you actually had the former ceo and publisher of the national enquirer who was involved in this catch and kill scheme, as a witness today . and the fact that witness today. and the fact that they said that, you know, it's only the cover that matters. it's not necessarily the stories on the inside. and then if you look at every cover during that time leading up to the election, it's trashing his opponent. hillary clinton. it's putting him on a pedestal, and if you look at the amounts and i believe that they displayed the amounts that were actually given to the doorman , who claimed, to the doorman, who claimed, that the president had an illegitimate child, which we now know was was a lie , but he was know was was a lie, but he was still paid hush money and given an nda to sign, along with

former playboy model karen mcdougal, who was paid $150,000. and from what i understand , this and from what i understand, this was triple, if not more. the amount of what a regular, scenario would actually pay out, in, in such a case. and so that's where the prosecution is going to lay out this, hard evidence of the pattern that unfolded, because there is , the unfolded, because there is, the line of credit that michael cohen took out on his home in order to pay back stormy daniels . there is the ledger, the accounting books that shows that they were claiming that it had to do with, with, you know, law work. and that's not the case, there's also now another former executive of president trump who took copious notes from what i understand, and his name was , understand, and his name was, allen weisselberg. and he's claiming that, the way that they

decided to pay michael cohen his reimbursement, they actually moved it, bumped and bumped it up from 130,000 to 420,000 and put it in the ledger under all different kinds of categories to even evade taxes. so, you know, there's hard evidence. and i think he's going to find himself in a lot of hot water. >> amy tarkanian, thank you. always good to hear from you and get your views. we've got to leave it there. thank you very much indeed for your time. >> thank you. thank you. adrian porter's emailed in. he's a gb news member. if trump's found guilty, he shouldn't be allowed to stand as president and shouldn't be allowed to pardon himself either. but it is the united states of america. so there you go. i think that is just for us. hard to get our head around, isn't it? it just wouldn't happen in this country. not only does the pardoning system not exist, let us know your thoughts on all of this. well, also for us, we have some very exciting news to share with you this morning, gb breakfast news has been nominated for a tric award. the best news program category is the

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next. we've got paul, and he's got the stories making the sports headlines. nottingham forest back in their back page of the mail today saying they're threatening to sue. well, they threatened to sue everybody, but they're threatening to sue sky, over a gary neville was on there and he was talking to jamie carragher and he was saying how ridiculous the forest action was. and it was said it was. it was. and it was said it was. it was like a mafia, type action. and they've taken exception to this now. >> it is. i mean, to cut a long story short, and for those that are not aware, there were three penalty decisions that nottingham forest say they

should have had against everton. >> did you see them. >> did you see them. >> yeah, i thought one of them. yes. the other two could have gone one. >> one were the other. and you see them going one way or the other every every match, every single week we see this. >> you know, and i'm not saying that. oh it's this is a disgrace about var. what i'm saying is that every week we see decisions which could go one way or the other and side with the referee. the last one i think yes, was a penalty. but again we see it all the time don't we. so big deal. so they've they've was the social media post questioning the integrity of the supposed luton fan stuart attwell on var which i think is appalling. i think to actually go on there and say, well, we said that he shouldn't be, he shouldn't be on var because he's a luton fan and luton have got a vested interest until nottingham forest do, because they're in the relegation zone as well. i just think it's ridiculous and i think it's ridiculous and i think what they're doing at the moment, amy, is that they're doubung moment, amy, is that they're doubling down on this, whereas now they're getting flack and they're saying we're going to stick with it. and now they're saying, well, we're doing it for

the good of the integrity of the premier league. i'm going to say one thing and one thing only about this and that is there is no conspiracy against any team in the premier league. i also think that john f kennedy was killed by lee harvey oswald and nobody else as well. but i have these thoughts. i just think everybody seems to think there's a conspiracy against them. everybody wants us, everybody wants us out. there's no such thing. well, forest may well be in the championship, next year , in the championship, next year, and the championship title is really hotting up. tell us what's going on there. well done. leeds last night. yeah. >> middlesbrough three. leeds four, they're back in the automatic promotion places now . automatic promotion places now. after beating middlesbrough there michael carrick side i mean this is how things are looking and it's always really tight in the championship so much. you know we look at the premier league all the time. but the championship leicester are top. they've played 43. they're 91 points. then we've got leeds who have played one game more on 90 and then the other one. then we've got ipswich played 43 and they're on 89 and then we've got

southampton, west brom and norwich as well. so it's so tight. yeah, so it's like this. so it's the top two that will go straight to the premier league and the other four will play in the play offs. oh so only a few games tonight in the premier league. >> you've got arsenal against chelsea. that will be an interesting one. and you've got some footage here of the olympic ship . yes ship. ship. yes ship. >> i thought, you know, i thought it'd be nice. i thought it'd be nice to show the ship where the olympic flame. i can tell you a little bit about the ship. do we do do we have the beautiful ship? there it is. i think it looks like the jolly roger booze cruise heading into athens. but oh, no, it's much classier than that, this is the ship that will be taking the olympic torch. see, they lit the flame outside the parthenon of the acropolis. i think the acropolis is the mountain and the parthenon is the. is the old building on the top building? yeah, yeah, yeah. so that was lit at the weekend. the flame is handed over to paris on friday to the games organisers. so that

is the port of piraeus, which is near athens. if anybody's taken a cruise from athens, that's where you would go from. and they'll be off to the port of marseille, a three masted ship called the belem. the belem. and then it will go for 68 day tour around france. and the colonies. so they even go off to all the french colonies . so surely french colonies. so surely they're going to have to go in they're going to have to go in the plane and then take the flame on the plane? >> well, it's got a bit of travelling to do. it has got a lot of stress. >> and that's a merchant trade ship from 1896, by the way. >> yeah. under 100 days to the start of the games in paris, it could be worse. i've spent many , could be worse. i've spent many, many years, many times at the crucible theatre for the world snooker championships, although they did knock it down and rebuild it. but there's a, there's a player from iran who says that the crucible stinks. yeah, it's really smelly. >> it's apparently very smelly. well, did you find it smelly when you were there?

>> not when i was there. >> not when i was there. >> no, not when you were there. when were you last at the crucible? >> well, you see, when i was there, it was all sponsored by benson and hedges cigarettes. so it was just smelt of smoke. well, apparently. >> apparently it still smells of old fags. that's that's the that's the thing. wherever you 90, that's the thing. wherever you go, it's the. oh, that's you go like that and that's the smell of alex higgins. benson and hedges from 1977. it's all in the drapes. it's everywhere. so he says it smells. i mean, it's a theatre after all. it's not a purpose built sports venue, but it's the crucible. that's where the world championships are held. so it's always there. he says. this hossein vafaei says it smells really bad. the practice room is like a garage. the tournament should move elsewhere. and by the way, one quick, one. today is a anniversary from the crucible. this day in 1983. what did cliff thorburn do? eamonn he got the first televised 147. yes, sir. he >> yes, yes he did. thank you. >> yes, yes he did. thank you. >> i remember it that this day in 1983, the grinder. i think it

means something different these days. oh, oh . days. oh, oh. >> anyway, let's let's move on to the news papers. >> moving swiftly on. still to come. we're going through the front pages of the papers. we've got andy williams and scarlett mccgwire for that. in making the news. don't go anywhere . holac

what's making the news? and what's got our columnists talking today? scarlett mccgwire andy williams, who say good morning to both of them. morning. and, guys, what do you think ? i want to begin with the think? i want to begin with the rwanda bill? do you think i mean, the prime minister says we're now 10 to 12 weeks away from flights. what do you think, scarlet ? scarlet? >> where do you begin? with rwanda, bill? i mean, if it's not going to work, that that what how many people are going

to be sent? over a few hundred. we have thousands coming in. so they know the odds are that that it's not going to work, well, the plan was never to send all of them over. >> the idea was you know, within days, now they're going to start detaining people, earmarking those people for the flights that will go off in the next few weeks. and that will hopefully bubble through a few flights every month. as rishi sunak has said. and that will be the deterrent. >> but if you think of what these people have been through to get here, the fact that there's a lottery of whether they go to rwanda is pretty low. what's also interesting is, is this is the hill that rishi wants to die on. and yet if you if you know friends of mine who are out canvassing say that people go, well, we don't want to spend millions sending people to spend millions sending people to rwanda, we just don't want them coming. it's you should be stopping the boats . and this stopping the boats. and this isn't going to work. and so they're very, very angry. >> and then so what would labour's plan be then to stop

the boats, to do much more upstream to, to actually to, to look at what's going on in france. >> that's what they've been doing. >> well, they haven't had good money after good money, but it hasn't worked. so. >> so french don't want to keep them. no. >> well of course if i was french i wouldn't want to keep them either. why keep people in my country that i don't want and don't want to be there? but actually, that's what you have to do. and the other thing you have to do is it has to be. i mean, i noticed that i think michael tomlinson, the immigration minister, said this is a global problem. and actually we've got to sort it out globally. i mean, suddenly we have all these vietnamese people coming. yeah. why what is happening? we have to go to vietnam and find out what the problem is. >> vietnamese figures really high. just. yeah. >> yeah. i mean, that's it's massive. i mean, i don't know enough about vietnam to know why suddenly people are desperate to come, that it's but it's i mean, it's very, very strange . it's very, very strange. >> do you think about it at all,

andy? it was sort of an interesting evening of ping pong back and forth. lots of questions as well about the role of the lords in all of this, whether it needs reform. absolutely yes. >> rishi sunak has been saying labour are the people who have been blocking us in the house of lords, and there's absolutely no doubt there were many peers who were trying to stall and stall and stall this legislation even as late as 1:00 this morning. but it's worth bearing in mind, you know, the conservatives do have almost 300 peers in there, and there's been lots of conservative voices who've been very sceptical, sceptical about this legislation as well. i think rishi sunak might have created a really serious political problem for himself here. he set a really high bar for success. he's not said bring down the number of people crossing the channel. he's not said, let's get numbers under control, he has said. and he said it again yesterday. success is when the boats are being stopped. there's no sign that that's going to happen. in fact year on year the numbers are up. >> the optics, which is why he'll not hold a general

election before the first plane flies out. but if a first plane flew out and it had 200 migrants on board, that's got to augur well for him, hasn't it, at the polls? >> well, it's better than nothing. but but if you look at the figures that came out yesterday, we're 24% up year on year to date . in terms of small year to date. in terms of small boat arrivals, there have been 6200 people already who've arrived in small boats since the 1st of january. so if 200 people go to rwanda on planes, my maths isn't quick enough to work that out off the top of my head, but it's a very small percentage. well, nigel farage says he predicts not a single person will be deported at all because of human rights legislation that's come in through the echr. >> i mean, he might be right. >> i mean, he might be right. >> he might be right. my sense is based on the sort of detail that was set out yesterday, that there will be, planes that leave with people on them. they seem to have, airports set up and judges ready to sort of fast track approval. so i think, you know, in some sense it's an

achievement to get this legislation through. but to scarlet's point , i don't think scarlet's point, i don't think it truly comes even close to tackling the scale of the problem. and as i said, he set a very, very high bar for himself. only 8% of people, according to yougov, think that the government is handling this issue well, can i just and i made this point earlier on in the hour, but just a bit of a bugbear of mine is that i always want to flag net migration figures in all of this, three quarters of a million people came into this country last yeah came into this country last year. 30,000 of those illegally, half £1 billion being spent on this policy, which will affect 1% of those 30,000, the vast majority are coming in legally with the government say so into our universities, which are institutions in crisis. british students are being priced out by these lucrative foreign students . 643,000 students came into the uk legally last year. and people are saying, this is why all of our services , his and all of our our services, his and all of our infrastructure is creaking, but you can't have it.

>> both ways, isabel. i mean, you've got cities like manchester, glasgow, belfast who are having huge growth in their their infrastructure because the money that these students are spending, the flats that they're investing in, all that sort of thing. so they can't have it both ways. they're getting something from these students. >> but more than that is these students are keeping the university and you say they're pricing out the british. i mean, the universities cannot live on the universities cannot live on the money that they get. they absolutely depend on foreign students to i mean, you know, we do have to do something about the universities. but at the moment, you have you have foreign students and they pay foreign students and they pay for the courses because £9,000, it's okay for history but honest conversation and say if we want to keep universities in this country, it means we're going to have 634,000 foreigners every year coming into this country. >> and the vast majority of those people staying, 30,000 people coming illegally is a drop in the ocean. in comparison

i >> -- >> well, i agree with you, but i wouldn't and i also wouldn't just pick on students. i mean, i mean, actually a lot of thousand care workers, 23,000 nurses. yeah, yeah. and, and what are we saying to the care workers? well, we want you, but you can't bnng well, we want you, but you can't bring your families, because you don't earn enough money because we're not going to give you enough money. i mean, it it's i mean, it seems to be that what we want is we want certain people to do certain jobs , and people to do certain jobs, and then we'd like you to go home. i mean, you know, we can't be that picky. >> oh, my friend jill dando was murdered 25 years ago , and i murdered 25 years ago, and i called into the petrol station, one of the last places that she called into, this morning, i was just thinking of this , but, just thinking of this, but, andy, mirror have gone. they've gone really big on this today. about six pages on this. and they're saying a man wanted for questioning bears a striking resemblance to a serbian secret service assassin . service assassin. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i mean, firstly, it's unbelievable that a quarter of a

century on this murder, this awful murder remains unsolved. when it happened in broad daylight on a monday morning in the middle of london. excuse me. they've been long standing rumours that, this might be some sort of hit man. and actually, i don't know if anyone's watched the really quite good netflix documentary, on this . everything documentary, on this. everything about this murder points to it being a professional hit job. and so there is a story today that actually there is a suspect who bears a striking resemblance to the person in the sort of e—fit image who was a serbian assassin. so maybe it's a significant breakthrough in the case, but actually, interestingly, the i've forgotten the name of the guy who went down for it, but his . who went down for it, but his. >> barry. george. >> barry. george. >> barry. george. yeah. >> barry. george. yeah. so. >> barry. george. yeah. so. but but his defence was that actually really it was a serbian hitman and all of us sort of thought. why would a serbian hitman go forjill dando, who hitman go for jill dando, who did present crimewatch? >> yeah , i always thought that

>> yeah, i always thought that that put her in a vulnerable spot. personally absolutely. >> and i think she did sort of fundraising for for, kosovan charities as well. so there are links . links. >> i mean, the thing is, no matter what she did, no one ever came out and said, this is why she's died or this is why she was a target. so the thing is, there was no clue. there was no indication why. jill. >> yeah, i mean, and that's why when he said, oh, i think it was a serbian hitman, you thought, come on. but actually, i mean, and there's a whole generation, probably including some people in our newsroom who don't really appreciate what a big starjill dando was. >> i mean, her resemblance to princess diana. also, they almost on a on a par , weren't almost on a on a par, weren't they? the two of them, the absolute nation's sweethearts. and as you say, eamonn, a dear, dear friend of yours and her brother was as a dear friend of mine, but it's just. yeah, it's unbelievable. it's 25 years ago, right? >> to another tv presenter for the sun has gone big on this and it's on the front pages of the times and the mirror there as well. and that is, bbc presenter

huw edwards, so andy, it's saying here, no thanks, no pay off yet. the mum who complained still gets no answers. >> yeah . i mean, still gets no answers. >> yeah. i mean, i think we there's an investigation ongoing within the bbc and i think we probably have to be a little bit careful about what we say. well, we don't have all the facts at hand, but i just think it's a very sad end to an exceptional, career. one of bbc's the bbc's greatest broadcasters. he was there for 40 years. all these iconic moments and i completely understand. you know, i work in communications from a pr perspective. if you're writing that statement at the bbc, you can't eulogise somebody who is still on under investigation where we don't know all the facts, but it's a real i think it's just sad that his career should come. yeah. >> and you know what? presenting the 10:00 news or the 1:00 or whatever, it was really didn't demonstrate the full gambit of his talent. i mean, when it comes to listening to him commentate on those national events , honestly, he was second events, honestly, he was second to none at that. and that's why

i think it was such a shock, really, when he did become the centre of this storm, i can tell you what we'll do now. >> i'm going to take a break because we've got the minister of state for illegal migration, and we're going to cross to him after we come back from this. please don't go away.

>> welcome back. we're going through making the news with the political commentator andy williams and the former labour adviser, scarlett mccgwire, let's look at this exclusive in the guardian. the met police chief has done a sit down interview with them, and he stood up for his sergeant who had that interaction with gideon falter at that rally over the weekend. scarlett, what do you make of that? because there are lots of people who are very critical of the language that this officer used, calling him openly jewish. >> i mean, i think there was no question that the way it was deau question that the way it was dealt with was clumsy. but what

what mark rowley is saying is that when he talked to the policeman, is that the actually what if you watch the whole 13 minutes, which i have not done of the thing that actually what the policeman is saying is, is look , you know, maybe it be look, you know, maybe it be better if you cross somewhere else that it would be, you know, that this is this is a demo and you don't want to go straight through it , you don't want to go straight through it, and that actually what he was trying to do was, was he was trying to do crowd control, and he was and he was also protecting the man involved as well. yeah. and i mean, it's, you know, it's a bit like so when that guy, when, you know, when that guy, when, you know, when there was a campaign against anti—semitism, march , i against anti—semitism, march, i mean, they asked tommy robinson to stay away and tommy robinson was arrested for not staying away. so, so because they felt that he would be provocative and he'd give the wrong impression. and i mean, the whole thing is, is sort of very, very controversial. i mean, this is a

this is a man who when margaret hodge was asked to, to be a patron for the campaign for anti—semitism, i mean, he turned her down because she was labour. i mean, this is a very, very political organisation , asian. political organisation, asian. and i mean, i do think it was it was dealt with badly. i think there is absolutely no question that that that what was said to him was , was wrong, and that it him was, was wrong, and that it was actually really unfortunate. it was that bit of the march because of course, there are i mean, there's a whole jewish contingent on those marches. >> yeah. but i mean, was this a set up and was this fakery by activists, as he seems to be implying in this interview? he said officers at other protests had been set up by activists using fakery to undermine the forces. he's saying that this is a set up by gideon falter, and if so, that's pretty controversial. >> well, i think it speaks to the complexity of what the metropolitan police have to deal with. you know, we've all there are many reasons why it's a very imperfect organisation . and i imperfect organisation. and i think they've got a lot of flak, rightly so, for all sorts of

things. however, these marches have been a nightmare to police. you're not just dealing with large groups of people and in some cases very angry people, but people who are actively trying to make a political case against the other side . and against the other side. and there's a religious dimension. there's a racial dimension , there's a racial dimension, there's a cultural dimension. >> it's only have it as a venn diagram right in the middle is the met commissioner. i wouldn't want to be in that venn diagram. >> andy and scarlett, are you both english? yes >> well, i'm scots, irish, i mean, i my name is maguire . mean, i my name is maguire. >> you don't you don't identify as english. you weren't born in england. >> i identify as british. yes. i was born in england . was born in england. >> but you don't identify as english, well, i, i do. >> you've summed it up. the labour inability to own the national identity. >> look , look, i had a scots >> look, look, i had a scots mother and an irish father and an irish. you were born in england and i was born in england. and and i support the engush england. and and i support the english football team, which is fine. and i do think that that

that the special things about the english like, the sense of humour is different from the, from the celts, but, you know, i mean , it's sort of it's, i mean, mean, it's sort of it's, i mean, i think that most english, lots of english people were a conglomerate of all of them. yes yes, but you won't be celebrating saint george's day today. >> i think the problem with saint george's, it's really interesting . i'm on gb news interesting. i'm on gb news every saint george's day, always by accident , always by accident, by accident, always by accident, and always, i'm told to celebrate it . saint patrick's celebrate it. saint patrick's day, saint andrew's day and david's day . they're real. the david's day. they're real. the thing is, saint george's day . thing is, saint george's day. lots of you don't have to be laboun lots of you don't have to be labour. i mean, there are lots of lots of english people who who do not celebrate. >> well, okay, well, everybody hold that thought . that's very hold that thought. that's very interesting. from scarlet, we'll return to that. but right now we've got michael tomlinson. michael is the minister of state for illegal migration. and he joins us on the morning after the night before when the rwanda bill got passed and came

through. michael, when will we see things happening on that front ? front? >> well, as you know, i'm keen to see things happening as, as soon as possible. the prime minister set out and made it very clear that it's going to take 10 to 12 weeks for the first flight to actually take off and to get off the ground. but you're right, last night was a momentous occasion. we were told that the bill would never pass, that we would never get it through, and the prime minister was determined to ensure that we got the bill through. and we did that last night. and shortly after midnight, i found myself standing at the bar of the house of lords and listening to the final speeches there, where they confirmed that the bill was actually going to go through. it's a landmark moment and an important moment for this rwanda scheme. >> so you might have won the battle , but have you won the battle, but have you won the war? lots of people calling this legislation a significant threat to the rule of law. the united nafions to the rule of law. the united nations have said the flights taking off could break international law. what i'm trying to say is there's going to be no end of legal challenges to be no end of legal challenges to this and big question marks

about whether or not any of these deportees will ever make it to rwanda . it to rwanda. >> well, you're right to characterise it as a battle because it was it was a significant battle in the house of commons. we saw the labour lords trying to block it at every step. we saw labour in the house of commons yesterday voting against it as well, and you're also right to say that there are now challenges that are inevitably going to come our way. but our assessment is that, yes, it does comply with international law. our assessment is that we have drafted it in a clear and unambiguous way, such as the courts are going to have to listen to what parliament and the act of parliament says. and we are determined to see those planes take off. and, you know, because we've discussed it before, my impatience to make sure that these planes take off andifs sure that these planes take off and it's important, important for this reason, because we need to see that deterrent in place. we need to see that people who come here illegally , people who come here illegally, people who are smuggled over by the evil criminals , smuggling gangs, that criminals, smuggling gangs, that you are not going to be able to stay here, that you are going to

be removed quickly to rwanda , be removed quickly to rwanda, and that will be the deterrent that's put in place to ensure that's put in place to ensure that the small boats stop coming. i mean, frankly, we've seen more interest from the from the labour party in stopping the flights. we are determined to stop the boats . stop the boats. >> let's do eventually take off. michael, would it be your intention to put these migrants on, regular scheduled flights as opposed to chartered aircraft ? opposed to chartered aircraft? >> well, i mean, you'll forgive me . i'm not >> well, i mean, you'll forgive me. i'm not going to >> well, i mean, you'll forgive me . i'm not going to get into me. i'm not going to get into too much of the detail there . too much of the detail there. and just let me explain why i understand the interest. and i understand the interest. and i understand your your question. i want to ensure that there are going to be regular flights. that's what i want to see. but there are those, as has been hinted at before, who are determined to ensure that this policy does not work. those in the labour party and others as well, who are determined to set up whatever challenges, whether that's legal, whatever obstacles they're determined to throw that in the way of this scheme. and

so i'm just going to be a little bit cautious, if you like, not reveal every detail that's going to happen. but you are right. we do want to have a regular rhythm. we do want to have regular flights, but it's going to take 10 to 12 weeks before we get that first flight off the ground. >> still at a loss as to why the prime minister's decided to spend or expend so much political capital on this bill, andrew mitchell, who we had on yesterday morning, he wrote just two years ago for the conservative home website that this was a nonsense policy. the prime minister, as we know when he was chancellor, was lukewarm about it. the sorry, the home secretary now called it dot, dot, dot, although he claims he doesn't remember saying that. and suella braverman yesterday, former home secretary saying that it won't work . so why is mr that it won't work. so why is mr sunak so committed to it? >> well, it's really important that we have that deterrent piece in place. we've seen small boat crossings. we we've seen evil criminal smuggling gangs and it should be us. we are in control of our borders. it shouldn't be those who are

paying shouldn't be those who are paying to come here illegally. and that's why we need the deterrent effect up and in place. and you're right, it hasn't been easy to get the bill through the house of commons. but don't forget that the eyes of the world are watching this scheme. we are not the only country. this is not just the united kingdom. this is not just france. it's not just a european issue, but it's a global issue as well. and you'll see that the eyes of the world are watching this scheme. there are other countries who are interested to see how this scheme works, because we are looking at a global problem. there are over 100, there are over 100 million people on the move around the world. and that means that there needs to be a global solution. you would have heard from the home secretary his speech over in new york. this is a global issue, and that's why we've started that global conversation. and that's why this scheme, this rwanda scheme is so important. that's why the prime minister was determined to get it through parliament, and he succeeded in doing just that. >> well, now that it is through michael, because of the house of lords intervention, do you

believe you have got a better bill or a worse bill than originally intended ? originally intended? >> well, i mean, it's almost exactly the same as the bill that was introduced. there were there were minor tweaks and changes, if you like. but that's that's inevitable. that's part of the process. my frustration , of the process. my frustration, if you like, is that we saw it was being held up in the house of lords, and there's no doubt that that's keir starmer directing his troops, directing the labour lords to block it. there's no doubt about that. and the amendments fell into two categories really . there were categories really. there were those that were designed to undermine the whole purpose of the bill. and there are those that were simply unnecessary. and by midnight last night, we were down to two amendments that in my view, were and in the government's view, were simply unnecessary. they didn't need to be there on the face of the bill that the primacy of the house of commons prevailed in the end. and that was right. there were significant majorities. i mean, you'll have seen the numbers, majorities of 60, 65, 70 coming

through. and that shows the prime minister's determination to get the bill through. and now to get the bill through. and now to get the planes off the ground, just lastly, i want to ask you about china. i know the case is active in the case of these two people who have been charged with espionage offences , charged with espionage offences, but incredibly serious and worrying, not least in the context of two cyber attacks by the chinese in march and a foreign secretary with a number of private business associations. still, with that country. what to do with the problem? like china ? is it time problem? like china? is it time to call it out as the threat that it to call it out as the threat thatitis to call it out as the threat that it is ? thatitis? >> well, there is no doubt that this is a serious moment. you've seen the announcement from the cps yesterday. you're right. there is a limited amount that i can say. there's nothing that i would want to say or people should say , in fact, that would should say, in fact, that would prejudice a trial. you'd expect me to say that i'm a former law officer, and in my role as the solicitor general, i superintended the work of the cps.so superintended the work of the cps. so they've done their work, and we now need to let the court

and we now need to let the court and the legal process work its work its way through as well. so i'm afraid there's nothing more that i i'm afraid there's nothing more thati can i'm afraid there's nothing more that i can say about that. >> no, but my question wasn't just about those two individuals. it was about the wider threat that the country poses and the prime minister's reluctance to call it out as a threat, calling it a challenge of an epoch. and, you know, summoning the ambassador isn't exactly going to cut it. i think iain duncan smith said. it was like, an elephant giving birth to a mouse and an snp mp, saying it was like turning up to a gunfight with a wooden spoon . gunfight with a wooden spoon. >> well, i don't think that's right. i think the prime minister is right to characterise it in the way that he has. these are serious international and global issues , international and global issues, and i think the prime minister is right to be cautious. i'm certainly cautious in the language and careful in the language and careful in the language that i use, but there's no doubt that there is a challenge there, and it's one that we're determined to take and face head on. well thank you very much indeed for your time today. >> i know it's a busy day for you. appreciate listening to what you had to say. thank you very much.

>> thank you very much indeed. thanks. >> thank you, thank you. well, if you are just tuning in our top stories this morning, is that the rwanda bill passed through parliament last night, a historic and far reaching piece of legislation now set to become law after eight hours of debate. but we're asking this morning when will those first flights take off? >> happy saint george's day if you're english, we'll be looking at the meaning and celebration behind england's patron saint, the president, the porn star and the president, the porn star and the payments . the payments. >> donald trump's hush money trial against stormy daniels has begun with allegations that he tried to corrupt the 2016 election and in the sport this morning, nottingham forest still seem to think the world's against them and now want the audio of the contentious refereeing decisions released. >> leeds are back in the automatic promotion places after beating middlesbrough three nil last night for and england's national day, will play the game that everybody's talking about. what's that? >> what? what game? >> what? what game? >> well, everybody's talking about it. what, what name that

famous sporting george. oh we're gonna play if you think you're up for it by george . up for it by george. >> yes. >> yes. >> morning. whilst it is the middle of spring, it's not necessarily going to feel it with a bit of a cool feel for some of us. and a bit of rain at times. two i'll have more details coming up. >> after five months of deadlock, the rwanda bills finally passed through parliament. we've just been talking to a minister there about it. it will become law in 10 to 12 weeks time, after peers ended their stand off over the controversial policy vie. >> yes. the showdown comes after the prime minister declared that enoughis the prime minister declared that enough is enough, and said mps and peers will sit through the night to get the bill passed. and that's exactly what happens. and that's exactly what happens. and it now designates rwanda as a safe country, in spite of the supreme court ruling that it wasn't and will allow the government to deport asylum seekers there.

>> joining us now, political commentator benedict spence . commentator benedict spence. benedict, you've heard the government reaction to this today , what sort of shape do you today, what sort of shape do you think this bill is in? >> well, i mean, i think it's come through in about as ragged a way as it can. i think it's been chewed up. it's been spat out several times. it's gone back to mps five times. they'll be delighted that they've got it through. but now comes the next phase. you know, it's far from done. it's the end of the beginning, if you like. now come more legal challenges. there's already the precedent, of course, of the supreme uk supreme court saying that rwanda is not necessarily safe, saying that the bill is unlawful. we are obviously going to have more challenges from the over the echr again, over whether or not it's safe. that was one of the main amendments, actually, that the lords were putting to the government over this, that they eventually backed down on was a desire to have an independent panel to sort of adjudicate and monitor, to say whether or not rwanda is a safe country, that i think is going to be key to all of this, whether or not you can determine that an east african country meets the standards of, let's be clear, just western european countries, which is

always going to be very difficult to do. and as rishi sunak himself said, 10 to 12 weeks is what he imagined. so not the spring. we will not be seeing flights taking off imminently. there is still a bit of a way to go and my word, i'm sure a lot of lawyers will be working around the clock on their cases that they'll be bringing against this. >> do you think that i mean, this is the right hill for the prime minister to die on, if you like. and when you think of the percentage of net migration that this this creates, i think it's this this creates, i think it's this effect. >> i tell you what, it's a cunous >> i tell you what, it's a curious one because something that has been sort of floated, in, in, on, in on the conservative backbenchers for some time about the idea of a referendum on membership of the echr which is not a sensible thing, i think, to have at this moment. but it does raise a very valuable question, which is in a post—brexit britain, actually, how much control does the british government still have overits british government still have over its own borders, over its own ability to pass legislation, to create laws? i think this is a very serious thing. well, we have three quarters of a million people coming to this country. >> the vast majority of those legally, that the government has the ability to stop, but they don't. and it's only this 30,000

that would arguably be affected by the echr. | that would arguably be affected by the echr. i mean, we've spoken to yvette cooper on this program. in fact, she's coming on again very shortly. she says you can't pull out of the echr because the good friday agreement, i mean, this is a separate issue on mass migration. >> that's legal. it's a justified one, but it's a separate one to whether or not the u.k. can actually face down international conventions, courts and actually make the valid point, which is that legislate often does not stay relevant in perpetuity. actually, situations change, laws change, the world changes. this is post—second world war legislation, which i think everybody would have said at the time was entirely justified because of what was happening across the continent of europe. we no longer live in that same world. so is it actually fit for purpose? i think a lot of people would justifiably argue no, but actually, with a few months to go towards the general election with no real scope for what an alternative to the echr in the uk would look like, is it this in fact the moment to be pushing this? perhaps they should have been doing this five years ago. maybe that would have been sensible rather than just as we're about to hit the general election and their polling is at an all time low to go. do you

know what? we're going to throw up another major constitutional spanner and just see how it goes. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> okay. benedict spence, thanks very much indeed. thank you, though the motion failed a scottish conservative debate on repealing the hate crime act exposed fundamental concerns with the law . with the law. >> last week, scotland reporter tony mcguire has been speaking to people who have received such complaints against them. >> welcome to scotland, home of humza yousafs hate crime law aka the clps charter clip a delightfully scottish word for a grass, a snitch or , in the grass, a snitch or, in the context of russell findlay's opening gambit during the hate crime debate at holyrood last week. >> reporting your friends , >> reporting your friends, family and neighbours to the police for alleged hate crimes. the snp responded by doubling down on the new law's ability to protect vulnerable victims. >> i am confident that we have robust legislation that will protect those who are vulnerable to harm, but other victims that are emerging in the wake of this new legislation as the bill moved through parliament, concerned rows of police inundated with vexatious complaints targeting individuals

who had committed no crimes. >> the first fortnight of the new law gave rise to nearly 9000 complaints. >> the vast majority, at least 95, have been deemed to not be crimes. >> false reporting is nothing new. a social post from scottish conservative murdo fraser was flagged by a trans rights activist in november. >> police decided that no crime had been committed, but nevertheless that was recorded as a non—crime hate incident. >> an alba westminster leader, neale hanvey, says he too has been targeted under pre—existing legislation. >> i've been the victim of at least one of those complaints . least one of those complaints. it's and, you know, that's taken up the time of police officers. >> thick skin can be expected of an elected officials. but what about the public? 74 year old morag mcdougall? brown says she was reported to police by a neighbour, and the experience has taken its toll. >> i hate to think that anybody

vie like me or similar to my age would ever have to go through this because i really don't think i will ever get over it. it's a danger to scotland. it affects us. it affects our freedom of speech . it's freedom of speech. it's a gagging order in spite of everything. >> morag is full of praise for the attending officers for swiftly concluding she was no hate monster. the swiftly concluding she was no hate monster . the scottish hate monster. the scottish government now acknowledges the greater issue of misreporting. >> we must send a strong message to those making vexatious complaints to stop doing so. >> complaints dropped 75% in the second week, but logging non—crime hate crime incidents still concerns many, even on the snp backbenches. >> is it not even more insidious , actually, that you can have a black mark in your name without even knowing about it? >> tony maguire gb news.

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showery outbreaks across parts of the southwest otherwise lots of the southwest otherwise lots of places having a dry day, particularly across northern england , northern ireland and england, northern ireland and scotland. lots of sunshine and blue skies here. a bit of a west east split in our temperatures in the east. pretty cool at times. temperatures just about getting into double figures, milder or warmer further west with lots of places in the mid, possibly even high teens. any drizzly rain across parts of the southeast will clear away as we go through this evening, leaving a largely dry night and largely clear skies. two as a result, with the clear skies and some cold air making its way across the country , we are going to see the country, we are going to see temperatures taking a bit of a dip, so there will be a bit of frost around first thing tomorrow morning, particularly where we have some lengthy clear skies and away from eastern parts, which are going to be a bit blustery as we go into tomorrow. so watch out for some blustery winds in the east, and also some fairly frequent showers, which could turn a bit heavy across parts of east anglia and perhaps towards kent. elsewhere. again, lots of fine sunny weather around. just 1 or 2 showers to watch out for, but

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next. >> so we want to wish you a very happy birthday to prince louis.

>> i think, really, in many ways, everybody's favourite royal child. he's just a little bit of a monster, isn't he? prince louis is turning six today. very happy birthday to you . and how appropriate as it you. and how appropriate as it is, saint george's day, a national day that is called louis. well, i know his brother had already stolen the name. >> anyway, the royal fans will be disappointed as william and kate haven't released a celebratory photo of their youngest child yet. we're going to . we're going to find out how to. we're going to find out how disappointing that is to our royal reporter, miss kinsey schofield. morning. were you expecting this kinsey or what? what do you think? >> well, first of all, i have to tell you that over the weekend i went on a whale watching trip where i met two gb news mega fans and they said that they loved having an alternative in the uk, that it was such a breath of fresh air. and they said, how is eamonn in real life? and i said, more gorgeous than you could ever imagine. i said, what a beautiful man. >> were they english or were they american or mad ?

they american or mad? >> they were english, yes. and they said, oh, we can't wait to get home. and to see you on the tv. i said, i gb news, i gb news it's the answer. so congratulations on your nomination again this year. >> thank you. well, you are part of that team. >> so you are very much did you see any whales? >> oh, i would not believe how many whales i when i'm not whales watching, i'm whales watching . yes. i saw so many fin watching. yes. i saw so many fin whales i was thrilled. but yeah . okay. >> back to the whales is. >> back to the whales is. >> yes, i do think that people might be a little disappointed, but at the same time, isabel, i'm sure you'll agree with me here. i don't think it's unfair if the prince and princess of whales decide to set new boundanes whales decide to set new boundaries after what they experienced at the beginning of 2024, i think that they were disappointed in the online speculation about what was going on and how some of those conspiracy theories translated on to mainstream media, and i think that that was frustrating for them, and they just might be setting some new rules that we're going to have to abide by. >> yeah. so what would normally

happen for every birthday of the whales? as children, they would pubush whales? as children, they would publish a picture we sent out under embargo the day before, which means everybody had it ready to go in the morning bulletins. and yesterday we didn't get anything. we're being told we won't get a picture, which, you know, as you say, are we being almost punished for all these conspiracy theories in the treatment of the princess of wales ? and is that just fair wales? and is that just fair enough, as you say ? enough, as you say? >> i mean, that's what i don't. i we did hear from sources last month that they did intend to release a photo of louis. that obviously hasn't happened, but i think one of the reasons that maybe they didn't do it is because catherine is usually the photographer and, you know , she photographer and, you know, she was criticised so heavily over the photoshopped photo and it just might not be a priority that, you know, this this time around. what we do know is typically the princess of wales stays up all night the night before to bake them cake. she jokes that she makes way more cake than the family can even consume , but that's a tradition consume, but that's a tradition that she really enjoys, and she

loves the look on their faces when they wake up the next morning. and there's that. you know, the sugar rush is waiting, ready to go, and like you said, louis, everyone's favourite royal. of course you're going to roll out the red carpet for this guy because he is just fun on wheels. >> he's just the best. i just >> he's just the best. ijust adore him. he's just so sweet, yeah, i've got soft spot for little for little louis, but anyway, from our favourite , i anyway, from our favourite, i suppose you could say to our least favourite, you've got some meghan news for us this morning. >> that's right. you know, she was making a name for herself, really, in america by being a podcaster prior to a jam maker. but limonada is apparently putting her new podcast on hold until next year at the earliest, because they're afraid that her new lifestyle brand , american new lifestyle brand, american riviera orchard, and her new netflix series could conflict with the promotion that they'd really like to go into this new podcasting venture for, there is, i would suspect, not a lot

of money on the line here, or there would be pressure and bigger expectations for meghan to execute this. we saw that with spotify. there was, you know, a countdown clock. and when they only got 13 episodes out of the sussexes, they gave them the chop, so there are sources that are telling the daily mail and eating confidential that meghan has a list of very high profile guests scheduled to participate in her new podcast. but does she? very high profile guests usually have their diaries filled months in advance. meghan should know she used to be one. >> ouch. >> ouch. >> i believe she's got the title executive producer on this, which doesn't really impress me because every streaming series you see kinsey and it has a big star in it. they are an executive producer, and the six other actors that are there are executive producers. so it seems to me it comes with the territory . territory. >> yes. but i would say that dunng >> yes. but i would say that during the last series, there

were 17 producers and executive producers. so i expect she's probably going to have less cooksin probably going to have less cooks in the kitchen. yeah, because i think that that complicated, that was one of the reasons why it took them so long to get content out, because too many people had a say in that final product , let's talk about final product, let's talk about rebel wilson, shall we? first of all, she caused problems in the big showbiz divorce of the moment. and now royal allegations. >> yes. so rebel has said that. can i still have a hard time saying the word orgy? but in rebel wilson's new book, rebel rising, she says that she got thrown a last minute invitation to a tech billion hours party, and the person that invited her was 15th or 20th in line to the british royal throne. he said, we need more girls. you should come to this big party. you know , it's high profile. you're going to have a great time, she

said. somebody, she goes to the party, somebody enters the room with a tray . she thought it was with a tray. she thought it was candy rebel. i can relate to you here. she got excited and one of here. she got excited and one of her friends was like, no, that is an illegal substance. that is an illegal substance. you do not want to go there. and he said, this is usually around the time that the orgy starts. not my favourite word. and i apologise to my grandmother in case she's watching this. now to, get. rebel says at this point she understands what the windsor meant by they needed more girls. to her credit, she exits . she to her credit, she exits. she does not want to see where the night's going to take. everybody else. but now a big question mark over who this individual could be, right? well, let me help you . that creating more help you. that creating more trouble. >> i googled the line of succession in 2014, which is the time she was talking about, and between 15 and 20, in line to the throne, we had zara tindall, mia tindall, david arm strong—jones mia tindall, david armstrong—jones who's viscount arm strong—jones who's viscount linley, armstrong—jones who's viscount linley, charles armstrong—jones, linley, charles arm strong—jones, who linley, charles armstrong—jones, who was 14 at the time,

margarita armstrong—jones , who margarita armstrong—jones, who was 11. and lady sarah chatto , was 11. and lady sarah chatto, obviously we don't know if she was necessarily talking about any of those and we haven't asked for them to respond to this, but those are who were between 15 and 20 in line to the throne at that time. >> kinsey schofield and prayers to their publicists . to their publicists. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> thanks, kenzie. really appreciate your time and staying up for us. much appreciated. thank you. we'll leave it there. happy saint george's day. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you , of course, kinsey >> thank you, of course, kinsey is talking about orgies there and prisoners. i never thought of this. men's prisons used to only be staffed by men. so the prison warders were men. but now no more. really? yeah. they're women now . and the question is, women now. and the question is, why are so many female guards having sex in jail with prisoners ? that's the question. prisoners? that's the question. a double page spread in the mail today. a double page spread in the mail today . and one officer had today. and one officer had a baby with her inmate lover, they have no time to see who is. they

have no time to see who is. they have the time to see who's vulnerable. the prisoners with the women. one woman sneaked into her lover's cell on christmas day. another had an inmate cell number tattooed on her thigh . as the number of her thigh. as the number of officers having illicit relationships with convicts jumps by 50, that's not right, is it? >> i'd say stop having female officers. >> that's what i would say right how. >> now. >> add that to the long list of things that are wrong. >> yeah. and i suppose the reason it's there is that they haven't got enough, manpower, recruitment, literally manpower to man male prisons. so, a really bad situation there. and let us know your view. gbnews.com/yoursay paul coyte with his say on the sports news on all things george related. >> yes. >> yes. >> after this famous george's birthdays, he's going to talk about after this.

all right, let's. let's get the latest on nottingham forest . latest on nottingham forest. they are kicking up a stink. why are they doing that? paul coyte are they doing that? paul coyte are these three penalty decisions that weren't given against everton ? against everton? >> which nottingham forest are now saying that everybody's against them and the premier league is against them, and that the var, stuart attwell, being a luton fan, was obviously deciding against them. it's nonsense. it's like they're doubung nonsense. it's like they're doubling down on this, but everybody is against them now. oh yeah. well the thing is they're going to go yeah everybody's having a cup. well yes you're right. they want the var audio now to be released, which probably will be because they do that every month anyway. and they're still considering their options. what options do they have quite frankly. so now they have quite frankly. so now the premier league have come back and said well we're very unhappy with what you're saying. and there's a chance that then they can get fined. but i think, can you imagine if they come back and they get more points, take points. never gonna happen. i mean, that's never going to happen, but they just need to just try. and there's no agenda,

okay. >> it was the laureus sports awards last night. i wasn't asked to host those. no, i wasn't i wasn't either. >> no no i wasn't either. so obviously they don't really don't really count. but you know why. it's because they're in madrid. who won? what, sportsman of the year novak djokovic , not of the year novak djokovic, not really. sportswoman of the year , really. sportswoman of the year, was it tana bonmati, the ballon d'or , footballer team of the d'or, footballer team of the year was spain's women's football team. are you underwhelmed so far with the with the laureus awards ? how are with the laureus awards? how are you feeling about my laureus award? >> the spain women's football team? >> that seems a bit late to be awarding them. >> yeah, i suppose . yeah yeah >> yeah, i suppose. yeah yeah yeah. come the breakthrough of the year was jude bellingham, which is great because you know he's playing in madrid. fantastic footballer. yeah. comeback of the year i don't know what they usually do a comeback of the year but or whether that's just done especially for simone biles. but there we are the laureus sporting awards and there's novak. they're going up to pick up his awards. very illustrious european football award .

european football award. >> so here we are. we're on saint george's day. yes, sir, it is tuesday, april 23rd. yes. and you have to mark saint george's day. you are doing what i'm very excited because it's famous sporting george's . sporting george's. >> and i have a feeling that this is probably going to take the country by storm as we do this. okay, so i have a list of five, and i've even brought are they english sporting? they are. well, not necessarily me okay. but they are sporting george's okay. so they might not be english. a couple are. so i will describe the sporting george to you. and you have to tell me who you. and you have to tell me who you think the sporting george is. are you ready? >> could be a george or george . >> could be a george or george. >> could be a george or george. >> no, no they're all george okay. they are george. don't worry. there's no george okay i've i've avoided favourite name. exactly. shall we go with number one? yes. i feel like frank muir. there we go. the first one. eamon's favourite footballer of all time. who is that? >> oh, georgie boy. best, george. >> best number one for northern ireland. >> there he is. and there's george. okay, so northern ireland, but his name's george and he's wearing red and white.

>> so that works okay. >> so that works okay. >> right. next one former world heavyweight boxer who fought muhammad ali and the rumble in the jungle has a grill named after him. who is it? >> george foreman. >> george foreman. >> yeah, george foreman is correct. was it the grill or was it the rumble in the jungle? >> obviously. i don't know the grill. >> there he is. there's george foreman there. i by the way, how do you think this is going so far? >> it's going good. >> it's going good. >> it's going well george. quiz okay. number three, 26 year old british formula one driver with mercedes came sixth in shanghai at the weekend. george, who ? at the weekend. george, who? who? george. r oh, wait. >> oh. what? we have to get an answer . answer. >> yeah, yeah, we'll have to sit her all day. i'll wait for a british show. yeah, he's english, can we put the picture up? so maybe that will help. there he is. no idea. >> i know that one, george russell. oh, of course i've never heard of him. >> it's george russell. okay, fine. right, here we go. number four. former arsenal player, successful manager who also managed graham george . let's

managed graham george. let's have a look. there he is. oh, look at those. he was a hard man, wasn't he? >> he was a hard man as a player and a manager. >> what do you think? that's suede. that coat there. that's not bad, is it? >> it looks lovely. >> it looks lovely. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> gorgeous george there. >> gorgeous george there. >> and finally, one more flamboyant cockney darts player. loved a bit of bling. world darts runner up 1980 and 1994. eamonn's got it on the tip of his tongue. who is it? barry. >> george? no no, that's the murderer. >> alleged murderer of jill dando. >> it's not i was it not? >> no . >> no. >> no. >> but boy george. exactly. boy george, boy george . george, boy george. >> barry. george. we can't tell me. isabel >> no, i don't know, i don't know, i don't know, maybe. >> george. bobby. george see? >> george. bobby. george see? >> there he is. look at that. >> there he is. look at that. >> i was just waiting for george north. >> of course, the acclaimed rugby wales star. my husband will be screaming at the tv. >> i'm sorry, but i can only fit five george north. >> maybe i'll do more sport, maybe some general celebrity. >> george's. i do like the name gorgeous george, gorgeous george, gorgeous george, no. >> and the song georgie.

georgie. they call him the belfast boy. they say georgie. georgie, keep your feet on the ground. yes, georgie. >> georgie, would you listen to the sound? georgie georgie, put a light on the name . a light on the name. >> play the game. dee dee dee dee. here we are back after the break. dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee.

>> and we've got andy williams, the political commentator and the political commentator and the former labour adviser, scarlett mccgwire. and they've got the newspapers in front of them. and the rwanda bill. andy, do you want to say anything on that? >> yeah . i mean, that? >> yeah. i mean, i that? >> yeah . i mean, i think, look, >> yeah. i mean, i think, look, it's passed. that's an achievement in one sense and rishi sunak. but the proof is going to be in, in the pudding. and really, i think this is going to be a policy failure in the sense that i don't think it will actually stop. i don't

think it will be the deterrent they believe it will be. and i don't think it's going to kerb the numbers in the way they think it will. and i think that will end in a political failure because rishi sunak has bet the house on this big time. >> well, meanwhile, scarlett, there is a tenfold increase in migrants from vietnam. i know why nobody seems to know. >> i mean, no one scours the newspapers. that that whether smuggling gangs are sort of pretending that when they come to vietnam , when they come to to vietnam, when they come to britain, they'll have a great life. i mean, it seems completely and utterly mad, and as far as those people that were killed, i was just looking it up in the lorries. >> yeah. in essex, i know 39 vietnamese migrants. >> yeah. they were. yeah. trans trafficked in from romania. they were economic migrants. >> well, i mean, i think, i think, i think most people leaving vietnam are economic migrants and, and, and there is

a real problem about people who think that they're going to have a better life here. i mean, there's a wonderful film called il capitano, which is italian. it means i'm captain about a senegalese guy and just how difficult it was for him to get to italy. and interestingly, i mean, it was done to say to the italians, look what these people suffer, but actually it's now being shown in senegal to say, don't go , don't go. this is don't go, don't go. this is what's going to happen to you. you're going to get to libya , you're going to get to libya, you're going to be jailed. you could die on the way, i mean, that's it's i mean, and it's those sort of things that are actually much, much better than actually much, much better than a rwanda bill. can i say one thing about when they say that they tried to stop the rwanda bill? the two main things that were holding it up was one was that the lords felt that you couldn't say rwanda is going to be a safe place in perpetuity, which seems a reasonable thing. and the other thing was that people who'd fought with us like, like afghans, shouldn't be

sent to rwanda. >> well, there's been a form of words that was allowed , was sort words that was allowed, was sort of approved by the lords. in the end, the only tweak, really that was made to the bill. so a sort of minor concession on on that. i don't know if any of you have been through calais in recent months. i went through it at the end of half time. we were driving back from holland and getting the eurotunnel through, and we stopped off at one of the supermarkets as we were about to before we embarked. everywhere we looked, groups of young men, all looked not much older than my son and all looked as though they were from sort of west africa , places like that, all africa, places like that, all dressed in dark clothes, trying to sort of find their way across and actively trying to get onto lorries. i mean, openly, not even hiding it. it was kind of like a and everywhere you look, tented camps, not just in these in the alleged jungle, but this whole area of calais . in the alleged jungle, but this whole area of calais. huge, huge problem and didn't look like it was getting any better , that's was getting any better, that's for sure. maybe this will change things. >> how old are you, andy?

>> how old are you, andy? >> a 32. >> a 32. >> 32. when would you regard yourself as being all i need to tread so carefully here, don't i? >> i think, what's interesting, i mean, i used to think 50 was the most ancient age you could ever reach until you get there. i don't, i don't, i don't, i don't feel old. and i also, i find it strange sometimes when people, sort of say, oh, you know, i'm in my i'm in my i have friends who say i'm in my 30s now and everything's going so fast. and before we know it, it's like, actually, no, like life is short. yes, but it also to me feels quite lovely and long. and i think it's worth just enjoying the time until you have kids and your time. well that's true, i don't have kids yet, so other responsibilities. >> but scarlet people's idea of what is old, the actual age that is old has got higher. >> yeah , well, i mean, for >> yeah, well, i mean, for a start, the older you are, i mean, andy goes 32. i'm quite to old be 32, a baby, frankly. i mean, and the older you are, you you the you then put being older

as, as above it. and whether because we tend to be much healthier. you know i remember people saying oh 50 the new 40 but but i mean, you know, i, i have a friend of mine who's 82, who's a, who's a, a documentary, executive producer . and when she executive producer. and when she was 80 and she brought out putin and the west , was 80 and she brought out putin and the west, some poor journalist said to her, well, obviously, you know, now that you're 80, this is your swan song. she was furious. yeah absolutely furious. i've already started work on the next one. i mean, she's doing israel palestine and has just been on a hostile environment course to get there. i mean, actually it does show or that that that this chronological age isn't much that actually it's , it's the that actually it's, it's the drive. i mean, she does make me feel completely exhausted and i am considerably younger. >> yeah, it is it is interesting though. you look at people and 80. n0 though. you look at people and 80. no problem to them at all. some people 55. they feel they're ready for the grave. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and i you know obviously to

some extent it's a bit of a lottery in that, in that respect. my, my partner's grandma came over the other weekend to show us how to do some very basic things in our garden. right. because we've just we've just got a garden for the first time, and she was going at it for 4 or 5 hours, she plays golf three times a week. she does yoga in her early 80s. wow. and she is amazing. i mean , my partner, who's in her mean, my partner, who's in her early 30s, was more knackered than than gillian was by the end of it. >> so they go so according to the study in berlin, pensioners believe old age now starts at 75, right. it's hard. i think my dad's turned 75. i have noticed he started to look a bit frail . he started to look a bit frail. and i'm starting to do that thing of feeling a bit protective . yeah. suddenly we protective. yeah. suddenly we start to feel like the generation that's worrying about them, rather than they're the generation worrying about us. he's probably watching and going to be in trouble for that. >> but, so 75 is now regarded as age as when you, when you get old. >> but i also think, i think the thing about retiring, i mean, i think that when people no longer

had to retire at 60 or 65, and i know some people are desperate to retire, a lot of friends of mine are retired, but actually the people who aren't retiring, they've got the energy and things like, i mean, you know, playing golf. not that i play at all, but but having a proper life , and it's, i mean, you life, and it's, i mean, you know, you know, that things like loneliness are, that are just, just age you and make you miserable and make you and shift work . work. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> well, poor old isabel, who sort of . sort of. >> i've aged exponentially since starting here. >> i think company is very important and, you know, interests. >> and you mentioned golf there, whether it's, football or, you know, bowls or whatever , it is know, bowls or whatever, it is all, all very, very important. alcohol's not doing people any good. and they started keeping figures in 2001. and since then there's a 33% jump in deaths from alcohol . and 10,048 people from alcohol. and 10,048 people died from alcohol specific causes last year.

>> yeah. and i think, look, i, i love a drink. i love a glass of wine. i think pub culture is a brilliant thing about britain on saint george's day. i'm sure that's going to be enjoyed more so than on an average tuesday. but it's just so sad to see this number of really avoidable deaths. and i think a lot of it is wrapped up in, i mean, loneliness is one thing, and i'm sure that was part of the cause of the pandemic. also, the societal factors around drinking, you know, i don't know what to do with it because our british society is more so, i think, than a lot of countries quite obsessed with the culture around drinking , well, there was around drinking, well, there was around drinking, well, there was a report last week about women and cancer linked to drinking even just one glass of alcohol a day, and that definitely stopped me in my tracks , you know? me in my tracks, you know? >> but what are you going to do? you're going to live forever and be miserable, you know, i mean, i but you can try to be healthy and then live a fuller, fuller life, you see. yeah. well, i

don't know. i mean, ireland is a country that has maybe some would say, to closer relationship with, with alcohol. but pubs and things scarlet pay a big factor in social ability social life community. absolutely there's so many other things. i mean, you could be dry as a stone and live till 110, or you might die at 75 and you've had a bloomin good life in good company, surrounded by good friends. >> look, i completely agree with you. i'm not sure for how much is the pub culture and how much is the pub culture and how much is the pub culture and how much is the drinking alone actually is, is that the pandemic sukh led to many, many more deaths and i mean i remember talking to alcohol concern and they said, you know, the problem isn't so much alcoholics. it's people in their 50s and 60s who've been drinking all their lives and actually it kills their liver. now, i, i mean, i did read the cancer thing like you did. and, you know, i've had it and i don't want it to come back. but

the thought of going without alcohol, i love it every day. no, no, no, nothing like every day. >> if you have a drink every day, you've got a huge risk as a as a woman. and i do like a glass of wine to unwind at the end of my day. but i'm now trying at least monday to thursday to be teetotal. >> i think that's that's very disciplined trying. >> yeah. yeah. well good. so far this week we're on tuesday. >> my thing is i don't i don't dnnk >> my thing is i don't i don't drink alone. which actually meant that i, i lost weight and drank very little during the pandemic. i only drank on zoom calls, but actually it's , it's calls, but actually it's, it's i mean i do i, i do understand and when you're socialising, you know, i had a friend round last night, i mean, of course we split a bottle of wine. i mean, that's, that's just that's just nice. >> let's finish by looking at, a flying dog, in liverpool , it's flying dog, in liverpool, it's known as bugsy siegel. let's see. have a look at that. this is the star reporting this one today. it's a giant seagull as big as a dog. >> it's in the front of the star

this morning. oh, no. >> well, apparently we don't have it. >> there you go. and on the front of the giant, there is an appeal that if you know of or have seen a bigger seagull than this, the news desk wants to hear from you. so there you go. doesn't look that big, but there's no scale, you know, a tougher seagull. i remember living in bristol where there was a huge seagull problem and i was a huge seagull problem and i was walking down the street, actually picked up a friend's baby from their nursery, and i felt something hit me in the back. >> and i thought someone had chucked something across the street and a seagull had picked up a joint of rotten pork . you up a joint of rotten pork. you couldn't make it up and had dropped it on me and my and left. the stench of it was awful . i had a baby with me and it was just i felt really, really attacked by this. >> you're lucky it didn't pick you up after all that. >> i mean, don't they? they they fly down and they take people's ice creams. >> well, they can do all those things, scarlet. andy, thank you both very much indeed. see you guys again in about 40 minutes. time.

>> for now, though, we're going to take a little look at the forecast. alex barker will tell you whether or not you need a brolly. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boiler dollars. sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello. very good morning to you. here's your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. many of us will see some decent sunshine today, although in the southeast here there is quite a bit of cloud and also some drizzly rain. this pushing in across eastern parts of england this morning. feeding into parts of east anglia and towards london and kent. as we head towards the afternoon, some showery outbreaks across parts of the southwest . otherwise lots of the southwest. otherwise lots of the southwest. otherwise lots of places having a dry day, particularly across northern england, northern ireland and scotland. lots of sunshine and blue skies here. a bit of a west east split in our temperatures in the east. pretty cool at times. temperatures just about getting into double figures, milder or warmer further west with lots of places in the mid, possibly even high teens. any drizzly rain across parts of the

southeast will clear away as we go through this evening, leaving a largely dry night and largely clear skies . two as a largely dry night and largely clear skies. two as a a largely dry night and largely clear skies . two as a result, clear skies. two as a result, with the clear skies and some cold air making its way across the country, we are going to see temperatures taking a bit of a dip, so there will be a bit of frost around first thing tomorrow morning, particularly where we have some lengthy clear skies and away from eastern parts, which are going to be a bit blustery as we go into tomorrow. so watch out for some blustery winds in the east, and also some fairly frequent showers, which could turn a bit heavy across parts of east anglia and perhaps towards kent. elsewhere. again, lots of fine sunny weather around. just 1 or 2 showers to watch out for, but plenty of blue skies yet again. temperatures a little bit lower for many of us, so really feeling a bit cool considering it's the middle of spring by. >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers sponsors of up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on .

the rwanda bill is passing through parliament. it is a historic, far reaching piece of legislation and set to become law after eight hours of debate last night . last night. >> it's been a five month wait, but finally the rwanda bill is law after battle with peers. but when will the first migrant flights take off? >> happy saint george's day. we'll be looking at the meaning and celebrations if you're engush and celebrations if you're english behind your patron saint. >> and there's a royal birthday today. >> yes, happy birthday to prince

louis. he turned six today. the youngest child of the prince and princess of wales, fourth in line to the throne, was born on this day in 2018. but there is something a little different about this year, so find out shortly . shortly. >> and in sport this morning in the championship, leeds united are back in the automatic promotion places after beating middlesbrough three nil last night with the world championship at the crucible, four time champion mark selby is questioning his future in the game and after the huge success of the saint george's day quiz, stop laughing, name the famous sporting george will play the new version , which is named the new version, which is named the famous celebrity george, who morning mustard is the middle of spring. >> it's not necessarily going to feel it with a bit of a cool feel it with a bit of a cool feel for some of us, and a bit of rain at times. two i'll have more details coming up. >> well, after months, five

months of deadlock, the rwanda bill has finally passed through parliament last night and it's poised to become law after peers ended their standoff over the controversial policy. >> the showdown comes after the prime minister declared that enoughis prime minister declared that enough is enough, and said mps and peers will sit through the night to get the bill passed. and that is exactly what happened. it designates rwanda as a safe country, and it will allow the government to deport asylum seekers straight to their. >> we're now joined by our political editor, christopher hope. never thought we'd see the day. so it's true it will be law. >> yeah. it's law, we'll go to the king shortly . that means it the king shortly. that means it is law. and then the battle with the court starts all over again. and morning. eamonn and isabel. yeah. big battle last night in the house of commons. five iterations of ping pong. the most since 2005. and some terrorism legislation . what that terrorism legislation. what that means is the commons were saying do one thing. the lords were saying no, and it went to and

fro like a battle with a grumpy teenager about eating their sprouts, until finally the lords gave in and they agreed to go ahead with and they folded on a key measure about guaranteeing the safety of rwanda. and so we have it that we have this safety of rwanda bill as passed into law. we have words from the prime minister today on the way to poland, he with some journalists, he says this will deter vulnerable migrants from making perilous crossings and break the business model of the criminal gangs who exploit them. and that's the point. what they want this to happen is to start flying people arriving here illegally straight away, or pretty much straight away, back to rwanda, thousands of miles away from where they started to show that these gangs, if you come to this country illegally, if you jump the queue to quote the prime minister, you are going a long way away from here and are already the hotels and the property and the er and the property. they'll be living in in rwanda are ready to receive them. but can they can of happen. we're told it's a 10 to 12 week wait by the prime minister. that's because each

one will face an individual legal battles about why they shouldn't be going there. so it's a big struggle going ahead. not until mid or late july will the first flights take off. and that clock is ticking. eamonn and isabel, the election we expect in november. so will there be a drum beat, a steady rhythm of flights taking off? we'll wait and see what's your analysis on why rishi sunak has gone so big on this and i asked the minister a little bit earlier on, because when you go through the list of detractors, really including him when he was chancellor and really, frankly, quite lukewarm to it, we've got the home secretary allegedly calling it back, dot, dot, dot, although he claims he can't remember saying that. >> you have andrew mitchell, who was on the program yesterday. he wrote on the conservative home website two years ago that he thought this was flimsy, had suella braverman, who was on yesterday, saying this isn't going to work, why has he decided to nail himself to the cross on this? i suppose ? cross on this? i suppose? >> it goes back to last january last year, wasn't it, when he came up with stop the boats as one of the five targets for his premiership. back then he was

three months into being prime minister. of course, he was against it. i think back in 2022 when he was chancellor, isabel on the grounds of cost, and he was concerned about the cost of it. but i think now he's now he's he recognises that if it is upsetting, it's a small number of people proportionally to the large numbers of legal migrants coming here every year , well coming here every year, well into the hundreds of thousands. it's typically 40 or 50,000 a year crossing the south coast . year crossing the south coast. but he recognises that that idea, that it shows that we can't control our borders. it betrays that reason why many voted for brexit back in 2016, and he's yeah, he has nailed himself to a cross on delivering this. he didn't say i'm going to reduce it by a third, which he has done because of the albania deal has done because of the albania deal. i'm going to stop the boats. and so he has to do this and make it work. the problem is he's lost control of his of this target, because the political future of this is now tied up in the courts, and the courts might string it out for as long as possible. ideally, what should happenis possible. ideally, what should happen is the government should

say the next 500 people arriving here. but in small boats you are going to rwanda. he can't say that because lots of people have arrived here already, sitting in hotels, waiting to be processed. he needs to be much more front footed, but he hasn't been so far. i would say some of the blame lies with him . he had 3 or blame lies with him. he had 3 or 4 days before easter when he could have whacked this through the house of commons, through the house of commons, through the house of lords. he didn't do that. he waited another month and time is running out before. before what looks like a labour election victory. if the polls are right and they will stop the scheme altogether . scheme altogether. >> lots of questions about whether they'll do that or not. we've got a yvette cooper coming on for labour to answer that very question a little bit later on. for now, christopher hope, thank you. >> april 23rd. it is today. and that means it is saint george's day. if you are english, communities across the country are gathered to celebrate england's patron saint. >> so red crosses are flying against white backgrounds. knights are dusting off their chainmail , yet some are still chainmail, yet some are still asking who is saint george and why should we celebrate him?

>> well, we're now joined by gb news, east midlands reporter will hollis in nottingham. nice flag behind you . flag behind you. >> yes. well, the story of saint george as our patron saint goes back to at least the 14th century and long before english knights were wearing the red cross of saint george as they rode into battle, saint george's story was being told in a different place. that's because, historically, saint george can be traced back to the roots of a roman soldier who was killed for defending his christian views in what was called cappadocia, modern day turkey. we, of course, know the story of saint george, a knight slaying a dragon to save a princess. and now when we talk about saint george , the dragon that english george, the dragon that english society is wrestling with is should we celebrate saint george, and if so, to what extent? now the royal society of saint george, which organises countless events for today, as

well as for the weekend before saint george's day, they say that too often patriotism is mistaken for nationalism. nationalism often serves to tear countries apart. patriotism, they say , brings countries they say, brings countries together. patriotism is often seen to be a flag that is flown by, they write of english politics. but i suppose today in nottingham, in one of england's most left leaning cities, it is nottingham that has the biggest engush nottingham that has the biggest english flag, the biggest saint george's cross. so i think that really does show that whatever side you fit onto, patriotism and being proud of the patron saint doesn't need to be a political issue come rain or shine. colin from carlton in nottingham, will celebrate saint george's day . he's been george's day. he's been decorating his home with the saint george's cross for 30 years. >> it matches because 23rd of

april is saint george's day and we've been forgotten about, and we've been forgotten about, and we've got to show our identity and show our patriotism in. >> in the city centre size matters. england's biggest flag covers nottingham's council house. it appears every year many welcome it. some are indifferent. >> i think it's amazing, i do, i think it's absolutely amazing andifs think it's absolutely amazing and it's proud for something in our country. i think it's really good to see it up there. >> it's good to see a celebration of, of england, the country. it's a flag . country. it's a flag. >> it's. yes. yeah. i didn't even realise it was there with me. >> the red cross against white is saint george's emblem and the nation's flag. saint george has been celebrated as england's patron saint since the 14th century, but long before english knights wore the red cross over their armour while riding into battle, his story was being told in other parts of the world.

legend states that george was a dragon slaying knight. history traces him to modern day turkey. a roman soldier who died defending christianity . he . in defending christianity. he. in london, the royal society of saint george, a patriotic but non—political group, paraded with hundreds of cadets at the weekend. nik dutt is chairman. >> a lot of our fundamental beliefs and things that we hold dear are being undermined. so i think it's important we come together and celebrate him as a unifying factor. >> here at the cenotaph, england's fallen heroes are honoured alongside the patron saint, laying a wreath ahead of the 80th anniversary of the normandy landings. d—day veteran henry rice, a proud englishman aged 98. >> we were taught all this and it was so proud just to be engush it was so proud just to be english saint george. yeah, he's a great guy and he patriotism is

sometimes criticised. >> english history isn't perfect, but a community of all cultures can cherish saint george back in carlton, colin's raising a different flag with a traditional anglo—saxon dragon. >> i present george. they have a great day. >> will hollis gb news in nottingham . well, here in nottingham. well, here in nottingham. well, here in nottingham there is going to be a saint george's day party at a local pub organised by the royal society of saint george , here society of saint george, here for radford, a part of nottingham. and if you do want to find out what is happening around the country for saint george's day, it might be a tuesday, but there are plenty of things happening. the best way to find out is just by checking on the royal society for saint george's website . george's website. >> excellent. well, excellent. you have yourself a good saint george's day, my friend. thank you. >> glad to see you got the memo on the outfit as well. i've done the same thing myself. happy

saint george's day. there you go. >> very good. >> very good. >> have a good day. and if you are planning something today , are planning something today, let us know. get in touch with us and our. send us a picture of anything you've prepared or what you're doing and have a good day. yeah of course. stephen and ellie after 9:00 we're going to be live to them in. where are they? dartford. they're in dartford. okay. so there's a bit of a, a thing going on there and we'll be, we'll be covering that live for you and indeed throughout the day here on gb news and send in wherever you are celebrating today to gbnews.com forward slash your say excellent. well the prime minister you heard earlier from christopher hope is set to visit germany . christopher hope is set to visit germany. he's going to announce £500 million military aid package to ukraine. that's the largest provision of munitions so far. 400 vehicles, 60 boats, 1600 strike and air defence missiles for million rounds of ammunition, all in the package . ammunition, all in the package. >> a former parliamentary researcher and another man have been charged with spying for

china after an investigation by counter—terrorism police. 29 year old christopher cash and christopher berry, who's 32, have been charged under the official secrets act. both will appear at westminster magistrates court on friday. metropolitan police say the allegations are very serious as children as young as three are being coerced into sexual abuse acts online, according to a report by the internet watchdog foundation . foundation. >> the organisation said opportunistic internet predators were directing children remotely and often recording them . and often recording them. >> vehicle breakdowns rose by 9% last year due to wait for it. potholes that's according to new data by the rac. despite the government promising over £8 billion in extra funding to fix potholes over 11 years, it's estimated the cost of bringing our roads up to scratch is 16.3 billion.

>> it's amazing how you actually nofice >> it's amazing how you actually notice when a road has been repaired. i was on the a3 the other day, came to the roundabout at wimbledon and suddenly went, let's go round this again because it was it was tarmac. it was resurfaced . and tarmac. it was resurfaced. and it's such a rarity to drive on a beautiful piece of tarmac. but £16.3 billion to get the rest of the country up to, to get that , the country up to, to get that, are we. >> so we just get used to the potholes. >> what we're also never happen hoping to get used to is a few more of these around the place. >> this is our tric award that we won last year and we have some very exciting news to share this morning, don't we? >> yeah, we've got a nomination again this year, so they thought we won it last year. so we must be good enough to be in again, for this. so best news program category. they're looking at here. and you can decide what it is. those are the gb news programs up for grabs up for. >> well it's just our program. and then there's eamonn up for best presenter. and then there's

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see. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello. very good morning to you . here's your latest gb news you. here's your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. many of us will see some decent sunshine today, although in the southeast here there is quite a bit of cloud and also some drizzly rain . this and also some drizzly rain. this pushing in across eastern parts of england this morning. feeding into parts of east anglia and towards london and kent. as we head towards the afternoon. some showery outbreaks across parts of the southwest otherwise lots of the southwest otherwise lots of places having a dry day, particularly across northern england, northern ireland and scotland. lots of sunshine and blue skies here. a bit of a west east split in our temperatures in the east. pretty cool at times. temperatures just about getting into double figures, milder or warmer further west with lots of places in the mid, possibly even high teens. any drizzly rain across parts of the southeast will clear away as we go through this evening, leaving a largely dry night and largely clear skies. two as a result,

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happy birthday to prince louis. the youngest of the whales is turning six today, and a lot of us were hoping cameron walker to see a brand new photograph of the young prince, as is tradition, but not so this year. >> yeah, it very much is tradition. we would usually get a photograph of the royal the night before the birthday, so the papers can have it for the front pages the next day. that has not happened. for the first time ever since prince louis was born . i think we have to take born. i think we have to take a step back here. remember, it is very unprecedented times. the princess of wales is still going through preventative chemotherapy. the last photograph kensington palace released of their family was on mother's day, which clearly was then killed by photo agencies because of the apparent manipulation of the image. so it wouldn't surprise me if they're a little bit spooked and the prince and princess of wales is slightly more cautious when it comes to releasing photographs. and to be honest, do they really need the added stress of everyone you know, minutely looking at a new photograph of their youngest child on his birthday? i think the answer to

thatis birthday? i think the answer to that is probably no. >> it's disappointing, though, because he's got a lot of affection in the nation's heart because he is the cheeky chappy. we all think of him famously alongside his very famous great grandmother, the queen. look at him there. >> yeah , actually a little bit >> yeah, actually a little bit cheeky there. >> but he, you know, he's the wayward son in the best possible way, possibly because he's just so little. i always like to see the progress over the years. so i'm disappointed myself. but yeah, get over it. >> and queen camilla last month told a passer by in the isle of man that prince louis is quite a handful. as you can see from that image, there some people speculating that he was holding his nose in that image because of horse manure. i suspect he had just sneezed. that was at horseguards parade during trooping the colour last year. but of course, i think the most famous images of the late queen's platinum jubilee putting his hand over his ears because of the noise from the aircraft flying over buckingham palace. there was also videos of him having a little bit of a tantrum in the royal box, which the princess of wales very calmly i, deau princess of wales very calmly i, dealt with or. yeah. >> what was she whispering to

him? if you want those chocolates at bed time, keep smiling . sit still. smiling. sit still. >> i know, and that's it. but i think it shows that prince louis is a normal five year old at the time. now, six year old child. this is him during the coronation celebrations, they all volunteered the waleses at a local scout group in slough and prince louis almost tipped over a digger that he was driving with with his father as well. so it's these little moments which i think the public love about the royal children. >> i actually also think that it really demonstrates just how angeuc really demonstrates just how angelic george and charlotte are as a mum of children , the same as a mum of children, the same sort of age, i always think, how would my kids behave in that situation? and george and charlotte always surpass expectations . they don't put expectations. they don't put a foot wrong, and louis is just a bit more normal, i think, and relatable. >> but yeah, he's also younger. >> but yeah, he's also younger. >> he's a lot younger. yeah, but even at that time, george was seemed quite sensible , okay, so seemed quite sensible, okay, so we just have to wait then until we just have to wait then until we clap eyes on the on the littlest royal there, the queen was out and about yesterday toasting her father's regiment, looking very splendid herself.

>> she was the royal lancers. she wore a outfit which was actually modelled on the lancers uniform. it was made by fiona clare, the designer, but very poignant for her majesty , poignant for her majesty, because the royal lancers was her father's regiment during world war ii. that's his tunic. it is. so she got to see his his his tunic from the wartime. and he was actually quite badly injured during world war ii. in 1942 he was in an armoured vehicle which was attacked by the germans. his comrades were killed in that attack . he was killed in that attack. he was taken as a prisoner of war and was in a prison in a prisoner was in a prison in a prisoner was a prisoner of war until 1945 early 1945, where he managed to escape . he was given a military escape. he was given a military cross medal as well, so i think the queen is very proud of her father. the links to the military history her own family has and of course, as the queen and wife of his majesty the king. it's something which really runs true. she delivered a speech as well yesterday to the regiment, where she joked about their capacity to drink beer as well . so it's a very

beer as well. so it's a very good mood yesterday, i think, and we understand she's very much looking forward to royal ascot. >> the king hinting, desperate to go. we don't know whether he will be able to, but it sounds as though the noises are. he's doing well with his treatment and we talked about kate still receiving her preventative chemo . the king still of course undergoing his cancer treatment. >> absolutely. royal sources have told me that the fact that we saw the king on easter sunday, we should see that as an indication that his treatment is moving in the right direction. but of course, it's all done on doctor's advice as to whether or not he will be attending certain engagements in the future. >> okay, cameron, thanks very much indeed for that round up there. still to come, but got paul coyte. he's here with the sports news and the celebrity george quiz on this saint george's day. after this.

i just want to make you aware. big premier league match tonight. paul will tell you who it is and who may benefit arsenal versus chelsea tonight. >> so it's a huge game. but chelsea. yes cole palmer who is the big star of chelsea at the moment, 21 year old you know joint top scorer in the premier league. looks like he might not be playing, which arsenal fans will be rejoicing. >> is that illness or apparently illness? >> yeah. apparent illness, but often with illness , that means often with illness, that means there's probably a chance that he will play maurizio pochettino said yesterday that we are not just the cole palmer side, we are chelsea football club, but it'd be so much better with him playing. but it's arsenal win this tonight. >> they will go three points clear correct. >> yeah yeah yeah yeah. so they're looking so you know they're looking so you know they're just grinding it out. you know we're getting towards the edge like cliff thorburn again. but we're getting there. and then they've then it's the nonh and then they've then it's the north london derby on sundays. is it away. so. yeah. what time. >> what time is that. >> what time is that.

>> 230 sunday afternoon. will you be at that. i will you see. look, i'm very calm about the whole thing. >> yeah, yeah. gotcha, gotcha. it's saint george's dacoity and back by popular demand is another george quiz. >> last time we had famous sporting stars with the name george . this time famous george. this time famous celebrities. >> are you up for this? >> are you up for this? >> we are so up for this. >> we are so up for this. >> okay. >> okay. >> number one for saint george's day. famous george's film star. who is the doppelganger for eamonn holmes? george clooney. there very honestly. look at that. >> no, no, that's a picture of me. >> not one of george, is it? >> not one of george, is it? >> it's. i can never tell the difference between the two. look at that wry smile. >> great to present the breakfast with george clooney. >> you know, when i met, when i met george clooney, i thought, there goes the quiz. >> yes. >> yes. >> yeah, well, he was a really lovely guy. the odd thing is i bumped into him in a corridor and he was drinking a cup of coffee. >> you know, the way he does in the advert for espresso. >> do you know his father was a newsreader? was he? yeah good. >> rosemary clooney was his. his aunfie? >> rosemary clooney was his. his auntie? yeah. was his aunt . auntie? yeah. was his aunt.

yeah. yeah, yeah. and you know what? he's i'm going to play famous eamonn's with him. >> what are the chances? there you go. >> right. next one. youngest beatle who recorded my sweet lord. very mystical. who? which george is that? >> i can't. »- >> i can't. >> oh, come on, george harrison. >> oh, come on, george harrison. >> george harrison is correct. >> george harrison is correct. >> yes, there's george, there we are. the early george there from 64. okay, another. we'll go for another musical. george i forgot my bell because robert robinson used to do this on on what was it, the school program. no. yeah. yes oh. >> just off the top of the floor of the form, was it? no >> no. asked a family used to do that. family after family. there we go. >> another new squad. i already know the answer. okay. new school. george. george. michael no, i haven't even. i haven't even come. you said another one. you could have. wait there. >> another musical. george, who was the lead singer of culture club. >> oh, george boy george. no. come on. >> the pressure is getting to the both his boy george. did you say boy george? okay. right, right. fourth 1/41 president of the united states . now you've the united states. now you've got to get this right. >> george w bush . >> george w bush. >> george w bush. >> it's correct. answer 1981 to

1989. there's george bush there because i because i introduced the 42nd president of the united states in belfast. >> did you clinton. >> did you clinton. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yes . clinton. >> yes. clinton. >> yes. clinton. >> i thought you were going to say. and did george bush was he drinking coffee at the time and said, no, no, no, no. what claimant you look just like me. >> clinton said to me, could i say you're doing a mighty fine job? yes. and i said, it's you, mr president, who's doing the mighty fine job here. >> nice. we sort of like, bonded. >> and did you say god bless america straight after that as well? >> no, he got rugby tackled. it was all very. that's true. right. >> final one. cheeky ukulele playing entertainer from lancashire who was the uk's highest paid entertainer in the 30s and 40s. >> who was it? when i'm cleaning and cleaning la la la la. >> which was. george, george, don't ask me this one. >> oh, george. >> oh, george. >> george . come on. eamonn for >> george. come on. eamonn for george. for formby. formby? >> yes, george. formby. there he is.look >> yes, george. formby. there he is. look proper saint george. george formby. there. look at him. entertain the troops. >> is george isn't a name in

vogue though, nowadays, is it? >> oh, it is again. >> oh, it is again. >> no it is. there's lots of george's back in again. yeah, yeah, george is back in again. >> probably helped by prince george, plenty of george's. not many pools, not many. eamonn's not many. stevens. you don't get many. dave's loads of isabel's. yeah there's a few isabel's as well. >> yeah, there's my granddaughters, isabella. yeah. they've just. yeah, it's back in. goes back in. so tell me this. are you doing anything for saint george's day today? >> well, i'll just be english all day. i'm going to spend the whole day being english. >> you may meet up in the pub at lunchtime. okay, let's do that. >> will you be celebrating saint george's day today? because you keep saying celebrate the english. everybody's dead for everybody. anybody's day. okay, fine. >> i'm all for that pint of light and bitter. >> why? >> why? >> here's the question, viewers and listeners. why are you not off today? why is it not a national holiday? i just find it scandalous . why do why is there scandalous. why do why is there not a petition? why is there not a demand that today is a public houdayin a demand that today is a public holiday in england. good weird. >> these are weird. these are weird. >> well, i've got my outfit on. i'm sorry that you didn't decide

to wear one. i wore green on engush to wear one. i wore green on english day in tribute to your country. >> this is your want to be irish? >> expected you to do the same for me today. >> but i can't wear red. i'd get so much hassle. >> you didn't even try. you didn't even try. >> just me flying the flag over here. we're going to take a quick break. after that, we're going through the papers. and then very shortly after that, we have yvette cooper

us. joining us through the newspapers. now we say hello. welcome back to scarlett mccgwire and andy williams, mps demand a review of carer's allowance after 34,000 of them were fined last year. now to get a carer. is an achievement in itself. these people are never paid the rate that they they deserve. what's going on here, scarlet?

>> actually, this is worse than what you're saying is these carers are people who basically they they look after their mother, their, their, their husband, their whatever, and they, they're allowed to work for to earn £150 a week to get a carer's allowance of £81. that's all they're allowed . yeah, yeah. all they're allowed. yeah, yeah. and they save the country millions. >> so they're dressing these people, they're giving them medication when they're looking after them, and they get their 100 and whatever it is, and then they go, no, but the £151 they're allowed to work out side they're allowed to work out side the side. >> that's right. so these are, these are people who are looking after normally relatives, you know, and they're saving the state, saving fortune. and then what happens is that if they earn a pound over £150 a week, they lose the lot , right? and they lose the lot, right? and then if they don't tell people because they often don't know all the things, they then owe

thousands and thousands. so you've got 34,000 carers were fined last week , last year for fined last week, last year for earning more than £150 a week. i mean, it is absolutely appalling, right? it is. and these people are being are being fined thousands of pounds to come out of what, you know. and actually they're doing us an incredible favour because they're looking after, you know, they're looking after, you know, they're looking after, you know, they're looking it's like a var system as well. >> you know one one millimetre off side and that's that's it. it goes against, you know, we should we should cherish these people instead of penalising them. >> we really we really, really should . should. >> here we are, saint george's day. and a lot of people could be going to a pub. so there's a pub, i think in east london now and, its profits are on the up . and, its profits are on the up. it's called the black dog. why is it profits on the up ? is it profits on the up? >> because taylor swift, who has probably the most excitable, dedicated, active fan base in

the world, taylor swift fans have been listening to her new album . i don't know if anyone album. i don't know if anyone else here has. and there is a song called the black dog, which is about a pub in vauxhall that her then boyfriend went into and her then boyfriend went into and he walked into the pub and she was tracking it on her phone on her sort of fine friends app and she sung she's, she's written this new song all about her heartbreak. so taylor swift fans have descended on this pub in vauxhall and the landlord's been pretty canny and started charging for merchandise, putting the price of the pints up. it's been rammed full of taylor swift fans. >> so sorry, was she basically stalking her? >> so i think so. i haven't listened to the album, but my understanding is that this entire and there's 31 tracks on this album, right? and it's all about her british ex—boyfriend and their break—up and st giles' or tom hiddleston? >> no, neither was a lot of boyfriends, hasn't she? >> well, this is the guy. i think his actor and they were together for six years and it's

all been very, acrimonious. together for six years and it's all been very, acrimonious . and all been very, acrimonious. and she had, you know, this app. fine friends , where you can see fine friends, where you can see where you're, you know, friends and family are she still had it on and she was sort of presumably crying under a duvet looking at where he was going. and there he was, walking into this quiet london boozer in vauxhall. >> and why is that a crime? no, allegedly to meet up with somebody else or something, i understand. >> i don't know, i think it was just her sort of, oh, i can see him going off and living his life. and anyway, now it's a shnne life. and anyway, now it's a shrine for taylor swift fans. >> a shrine, not a crime. >> okay, well, we'll have to go and check it out at the black dog in vauxhall and very good that he's turned that into a money making scheme. >> absolutely good on him. >> absolutely good on him. >> airline prices, scarlet budget flights can be more expensive. >> this is an incredible story , >> this is an incredible story, isn't it? is that actually, as we all know, if we try and fly ryanair or easyjet is that you get a price and then everything costs more . but but it's almost costs more. but but it's almost impossible. i mean, unless you

only travel with a tiny little bag that goes under the seat that you will have to pay more, you have to pay more for taking a cabin bag, let alone putting putting luggage in the hold. and actually, what they say is by the time you've paid for everything, and then if you want a seat , if you everything, and then if you want a seat, if you want to everything, and then if you want a seat , if you want to sit next a seat, if you want to sit next to your friend, then you have to pay to your friend, then you have to pay extra for the seat. all of that , you pay extra for the seat. all of that, you might as well fly british airways. i mean, it is incredible . and i mean british incredible. and i mean british airways, i do have to say, you know , used to be great. i mean, know, used to be great. i mean, now you don't get food. i mean, british airways is like flying. >> it's a budget airline. >> it's a budget airline. >> easyjet and charges premium prices. >> i was saying two weeks ago i was going to glasgow and it one way ticket, a one way ticket business class was £650 to glasgow. yes, for british airways it was actually from glasgow to london. that way round, but belfast as well. i keep on saying this. the price we have to charge. we were

talking. they're going to naples for £120 or whatever with british airways you could not get a flight to get in you from belfast to london for £120. no way. sort of. two 5280 something. >> but if you, if you fly with british airways to say istanbul or jordan, british airways to say istanbul orjordan, i mean, i was going to fly to istanbul. it was incredibly expensive. but but somebody else was paying and then they then they don't do because it's only four hours, no entertainment, no food, no nice, no nice seats. so i just swapped a turkish airlines, which were half the price and did food . half the price and did food. >> i got a very good airline, turkish airlines as well . turkish airlines as well. >> guys, can i interrupt and just bring our audience up to date reports coming from a french newspaper, la voix du nord, which says five migrants have died in the channel, we're heanng have died in the channel, we're hearing that a police operation is underway. and of course, all of this, the timing of this, just hours after the rwanda bill, the flagship rwanda bill, finally passed through the

commons very late last night. and this really highlights, doesn't it , the extraordinary doesn't it, the extraordinary lengths that people go to risking their own lives to get into this country, and highlights the urgency to try and deal with this problem? i just want to get some reaction from you on the panel. first of all, to you, andy. i mean, we've had this at another loss of life earlier in the year. will the rwanda bill finally put an end, do you think , to these sorts of do you think, to these sorts of terrible tragedies? >> well, i think as he said, it shows the extraordinary lengths people go to. and actually what this says to me is that forget the narrative most people who are in these small boats coming across the channel, they're not doing it just because they fancy earning a bit more money. these are people who are risking their lives, in most cases, to seek a better life. now, whether you agree or disagree, whether they should be allowed here, the human cost is huge, and i just think it's very, very sad. and i don't think the rwanda bill is the solution . i mean, again, the solution. i mean, again, look at the numbers. 24% rise in the number of people coming across in small boats. so far

this year, and five very sad loss of life overnight. >> well we'll keep a close eye on those developments. we've got mark white who is going to be bringing us up to date on that situation. and we also have the shadow home secretary yvette cooper on this programme in the next few minutes, you can give her response to those chilling reports from the channel of five migrant deaths just overnight since the rwanda bill was passed . okay, let's carry on with the pay per . okay, let's carry on with the pay per view and we can talk about the trump trial, shall we? and both of you, i'm sure, will have views on this finally getting underway. front of the ft this morning. and scarlett , ft this morning. and scarlett, your thoughts in all of this, your thoughts in all of this, you know, this is the president, the payments, the porn star. it's i mean, seriously, you know , ten years ago, you you would have said you couldn't make it up. >> that that a former president of the united states is being accused of, not just giving hush

money to a porn star. so that he she wouldn't talk about their affair, which obviously she has now started talking about their affair, but actually then push pushed it in as a business case so that so that nobody found out about it . looking at it, so that so that nobody found out about it. looking at it, i mean, obviously one doesn't know quite what is going to happen in the trial and what his defence is, but she is loving it. i mean, she is coming out and saying, this is what happened and i'm not the only one it happened to. and the strangest thing is, is the people really , really the people really, really backing donald trump are the evangelicals. i mean , who evangelicals. i mean, who believe in in i mean, this is, you know, trump who's on his third marriage, but the evangelicals who who actually believe in constancy. yeah that's a hard one to fathom, andy. >> i think it's worth reiterating. this is, you know, he's been on trial in civil cases before. this is a criminal

trial. if he's convicted , he trial. if he's convicted, he literally could go to jail, perhaps for many years . he's perhaps for many years. he's a former president of the united states. and he might be what, six, seven months away from coming president again? i mean, it's just surreal. >> so we could have a situation whereby in november, he wins the election in the united states of america from behind bars. yeah. >> and it's not beyond the bounds of power in january next year would involve him having to pardon himself before he could go from a jail room to the white house >> yet another. but it might not happen. he may well not be convicted. he says he is innocent of all of this. and it's a witch hunt. >> guys, i've got to say goodbye to you because we're going to we're going to cross a big political interview with yvette cooper after this short break. so thanks very much indeed. thank you. thank you. see you

>> well, just to bring you up to date on that breaking news this morning, we are getting reports coming into us from a french newspaper that five migrants attempting to cross the channel have died, and that a police operation is underway. and this, of course, just hours after the rwanda bill has become legislation. let's get the thoughts and reactions this morning of the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper . first secretary, yvette cooper. first of all, your thoughts on this developing story. >> good morning isabel. good morning eamonn well, this is more news of tragic lives being lost . it shows how dangerous lost. it shows how dangerous these boat crossings are . they these boat crossings are. they put lives at risk and they are undermining our border security. and criminal gangs are making huge profits from these dangerous boats and from putting lives at risk in this way. and that's why we urgently need proper action to tackle these

dangerous boat crossings. >> is the rwanda bill shadow home secretary proper action? >> well, the problem with the rwanda scheme is that it's an extortionately expensive gimmick thatis extortionately expensive gimmick that is costing around half £1 billion for a plan, which is to send just around 300 asylum seekers to rwanda . and that is seekers to rwanda. and that is less than 1% of people arriving in this country. there is no plan at all for the 99. it ends up being around £2 million per asylum seeker and we should be putting that money, frankly, into our border security instead into our border security instead into going after these criminal gangs who are making profits from , effectively a trade in from, effectively a trade in people. we should be smashing those criminal gang networks instead with that investment . so instead with that investment. so can i go on? >> where would the rwanda bill go under a prospective labour government ? if you got into government? if you got into power, what would you do with it

? >> 7- >> so we 7_ >> so we won't ? >> so we won't do the 7 >> so we won't do the rwanda scheme . instead, what we will do scheme. instead, what we will do is replace it with a new plan to boost border security and to fix the chaos that the tories have left in the asylum system. so that must include new cross border police, british police and investigators working right across europe, not just along the french coast, but actually working right across europe to go after the criminal gangs. we have to stop the boats reaching the french coast in the first place, actually tackle some of the roots of the problems. and that's not happening at the moment. we would also have new security agreements and new counter—terror style powers to be able to go after those gangs , be able to go after those gangs, and we need a new fast track asylum system for safe countries with a proper new returns and enforcement unit, because part of the problem at the moment is there's no enforcement of the existing rules and so you end up with we've had a drop of nearly 50% in the number of return ons

under the conservatives. well, that's just the system not working . we've got to reverse that. >> you haven't mentioned plans though to offshore migrants. correct me if i'm wrong, but thatis correct me if i'm wrong, but that is part of the spectrum of opfions that is part of the spectrum of options that you are keeping at your fingertips , are you not? your fingertips, are you not? and i just wonder if it does turn out that this rwanda bill is a success, that it does act as a deterrent. would you then keep the bill after all this taxpayers money, as you see it, has been spent ? has been spent? >> well, the problem with the scheme and bear in mind this is there was announced two years ago, they told us they were implementing this two years ago, and they have just kept writing checks to rwanda. so with every step along the way, they simply write more checks. the first thing that they're going to do now that this latest piece of legislation has been passed. and bearin legislation has been passed. and bear in mind, this is the third concert of law on channel crossings in the last two years. but the first thing they're going to now do is write another £50 million check for rwanda. even though they're more

currently more home secretaries than asylum seekers have been sent to kigali. they're going to write that check. and at every stage they're going to keep writing the checks. so that's why no, we won't do the rwanda scheme because we think we shouldn't be continually writing checks to the rwandan government. we should be using that money instead to strengthen our border security in the uk. >> is offshoring migrants still part of your possible plan to tackle the issue of illegal crossings ? crossings? >> so there are different forms of offshoring and different ways of offshoring and different ways of doing things. we've always said that we would look at anything that works, for and example, the ukraine scheme, that was a form of offshore decision making where people had visas before they came to the country. we also had the old dubun country. we also had the old dublin scheme, in which people were returned to other parts of europe and had their asylum decisions taken there instead . decisions taken there instead. so there have been different forms of offshoring. i think the important thing, though, is you

have to make sure you've got something that's workable, something that's workable, something that's workable, something that's actually going to deliver change and actually tackle these dangerous boat crossings , rather than something crossings, rather than something that's just really about chasing headlines. even the former immigration minister has said all the conservatives are trying to do is get symbolic flights off before a general election . off before a general election. well, that's not a serious plan when so much is at stake here. >> and shadow home secretary, you've got a serious plan. you believe for rural areas. and in the two minutes that we've got remaining here, the problem and the worry you have and you'll be talking about this today is the crime rate, which is surging at a much quicker rate in rural areas than urban areas . areas than urban areas. >> yeah. rural crime has reported going up much more quickly than in urban areas. and yet nothing is being done . and yet nothing is being done. and that's why we're setting out a new rural crime strategy that we will work with communities and police forces across the country on. it has to include additional

rural patrols, police patrols in neighbourhood police in rural areas and also stronger laws on things like agricultural crime where there's been this spate of organised crime tackling targeting farm vehicles for things like gps equipment . we things like gps equipment. we can't stand for this at the moment in rural communities, very often people just feel nothing is done when things go wrong. we can't stand for that and that's why we need this new action on rural crime. so our rural communities feel safe . rural communities feel safe. >> okay, we've got to leave it there, yvette, thank you very much indeed for your for your time this morning. that's yvette coopen time this morning. that's yvette cooper, the shadow home secretary, labour, saying they're going to concentrate on rural crime, it's rising far too quickly compared to urban crime rates. your views on that very, very well. >> yeah. lots of reflections coming up on the programme on, of course, today's date, the 23rd of april, it is saint george's day. stephen and ellie are at about at a parade. will be catching up with them. and we'll also be taking a look at

the rest of the day's news. so as the time turns 9:00 this morning, our top stories are these. >> five migrants have died after falling from a small boat off the french coast. mark white will have the latest to rwanda. >> bill passes through parliament. the historic far reaching legislation is set to become law after eight hours of debate last night. last night was a momentous occasion. >> we were told that the bill would never pass, that we'd never get it through, and the prime minister was determined to ensure that we got the bill through. and we did that last night. >> and if you are english, a happy saint george's day to you today, we'll be looking at the meaning and the celebrations behind england's saint and live from across the country, including stephen and ellie in dartford . dartford. >> yes, we're here in dartford

to celebrate saint george's day andifs to celebrate saint george's day and it's going to be a great day here with so many people getting involved. yes, at lunchtime there's going to be 700 schoolchildren from across the county parading behind a large model of a dragon . model of a dragon. >> and saint george will have all the latest here from dartford morning. >> whilst it is the middle of spring. it's not necessarily going to feel it with a bit of a cool feel for some of us, and a bit of rain at times too. i'll have more details coming up. >> did we start this hour with the breaking news this morning and we have been hearing that five migrants have died trying to cross the channel. let's get the very latest from our home and security editor, mark white. at the timing of this of course. incredibly poignant. just hours after the rwanda bill finally passed through the commons. >> yeah, not long at all after

that bill passed through parliament. so it happened, we're told, at 1:45 am. so really just a matter of an hour or so , after proceedings ended or so, after proceedings ended in parliament, this boat pushed off from a beach at wimereux, which is just north of berlin, further down the coast from calais. it got into difficulties as the migrants there were trying to push this boat offshore. it's unclear at this stage whether those migrants, got into difficulties as they were trying to clamber on the board or on the boat or were on the boat and then fell off it. those bits of detail will come a bit clearer , i think, as the bit clearer, i think, as the morning progresses. but the information we have, as confirmed by french authorities, is that at least five people have drowned as they try to make this crossing. others were rescued . one person, at least rescued. one person, at least has been taken to hospital in a

critical condition. and that search and rescue operation in the area, although it's pretty much concluded, for those who they believe were in the water is continuing because we have another, number of boats that have launched this morning. so three already, according to our sources, have left that same beach, wimereux beach, north of boulogne, another small boat left calais at first light this morning. and two other boats attempted to leave, dunkirk . one attempted to leave, dunkirk. one of the boats turned back quite quickly. another one is sitting off dunkirk at the moment, not making much progress, possibly with engine difficulties . so an with engine difficulties. so an indication that whatever the government might do or say the rwanda bill is intended to do in terms of a deterrent, the migrants are , for the moment at migrants are, for the moment at least, still coming. >> mark, thank you very much

indeed. and they will continue to come and come. and this is terribly, terribly sad. it has to be said. but you know what? no one cares less these poor people will have died. they'll have died in vain. they had a dream to come to this country. but we cannot solve the problems we cannot solve the problems of this world. we cannot have africa empty, come through europe, and then everyone deposit themselves in this country. it's not going to work. so is rwanda . is the rwanda bill so is rwanda. is the rwanda bill a feasible option , or is it too a feasible option, or is it too literally dead in the water, the prime minister reckons 1012 weeks time flights will be whatever form those flights will take, however big they will be, will leave , england, to go to will leave, england, to go to africa , what do you think? what africa, what do you think? what is your view on all of this? and just sadly, these these poor people who are dead, they are just some of many, many more who will die in that attempt to find

safety . safety. >> well, let's just reflect on that bill passing through parliament. it's poised to become law after peers ended their stand off over the controversial policy. and the slowdown comes after the prime minister declared that enough is enough and said mps and peers will sit through the night to get the bill passed. and that's what they did, right, chris hope with his view on all of this. so, chris, it's is it is it now law ? law? >> nearly law. eamonn. that's right. it goes to the king. king charles, he signs it off and then formally it becomes law. and then the clock starts clicking the ticking on this 10 to 12 week timetable to get the first flights off, towards the middle to the end of july, but the clock is ticking also on the whole plan you heard there from yvette cooper, some excellent questioning from you both of her on their plans to try and stop the small boats crossing. and what better reminder than these just dreadful tragedy overnight in the channel, because labour say they will axe the rwanda plan and even if it works. but i

thought her answer to isabel was fascinating, saying there we will look at anything that works. when asked about a different form of offshore processing , because something's processing, because something's got to be done. you've got to find a way of deterring and stopping these poor people spending thousands of pounds to people traffickers on the promise of a better life in the uk. they've got to be shown that if you come here illegally, you will be sent somewhere else. that's the idea of the plan . the that's the idea of the plan. the government has gone with rwanda and it hasn't worked so far, with two years in hundreds of thousands of pounds spent. but as of last night and shortly it will become law. it got through both the commons and the lords. >> christopher. thank you. we will leave it there. we will with the time at 9:06, we will indulge a bit more in whatever saint george's day celebrations are going on around the country. now. we've got stephen and ellie. they are out and about there in dartford today to celebrate england's patron saint, guy . celebrate england's patron saint, guy. so tell us, celebrate england's patron saint, guy . so tell us, waters, saint, guy. so tell us, waters, what is that lovely background behind you there? and happy

saint george's day . saint george's day. >> yeah. happy saint george's day and well you know what gb news. so we thought we'd start the day in a pub because that's always the best thing to do. look, dartford's really going to be celebrating today, along with gravesend actually nearby and thankfully the bull and vic, which actually is 300 years old. george the first was on the throne, which very fitting is fitting when this pub opened. and so as you can see, they've decked it out. it's all got everything ready to roll. the union jack flying in here. we've got the saint george's cross outside of course, so everything's just ready to go for what is going to be a huge day of celebration here. and why shouldn't we celebrate being english? >> so it all is ramping up to around lunchtime, when there's going to be 700 school children alongside community groups and charities. they're going to be parading behind a large model of saint george on his dragon. who's going to be leading that parade from the civic centre,

which is just down there along the high street which we are on now , all the way up to the now, all the way up to the bandstand, and we hear that it's going to be a real celebration with lots of music and morris dancers, morris dancers. yes. and the children have been busy making papier mache shields and papier mache dragons. so they're all going to be bringing them along on the parade as well, which would be great. >> and as you can tell, we've dressed for the occasion, of course, close to red, red and white as we could sort of manage in this sort of thing. so we're going to have a great day here. we're having a fantastic time. ellie's going to grab a drink in a minute, and then we're going to celebrate with the people of dartford all through the day here on gb news. >> good stuff. you've got the memo on the outfits, i love it. and whilst we've got you, we've been talking about the tric awards. of course we won last year didn't we, for our breakfast programme and eamonn nominated for best news presenter again this year and our breakfast programme also nominated again in the news category. so we thought we'd include you in our excitement and our sort of reflections on last year as well. whilst we've

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do you think old age is? what do you what would age would you say? old age? listen i thought 50 was. >> i think the spin i do think 50 is the turning point. i think 50. >> say you would say that at your age. but the interesting thing here is, is the older you get . yes. the older you say your get. yes. the older you say your old age down the road, your absolutely right. >> i'll be 65 this year and honestly, i feel well. >> i'm physically incapacitated at the minute, but mentally , at the minute, but mentally, whatever it is. yeah, absolutely. i think as if i'm 25. >> joe eamonn when my mum was 74, she used to refer to the older people that she'd say, that old girl down the road. i said, where do you think you are, maria? 74. yeah, i know, but i can still remember my grandma and she always just seemed old to me because she always, when she came to the house, kept her coat on and a hat on. they always had a hat. >> oh, my grand old eastender come from sort of six. >> yeah, yeah. false teeth they did. yeah. oh, god. now it's 75 is what pensioners consider officially in germany anyway, to be old age. and i think that's probably about fair enough. yeah. right. fair enough. >> yeah i think also the way we

look after and look towards old people, for instance, putting old people with old people i think is a bad idea, a terrible idea. i think you should be with your friends. i think you should be allowed to move into somewhere with people who are a circle. young people, grandchildren, you know, a complete variety of people because you're old. you're right. my mother was exactly the same. my mother was 94 when she died. right. and she's saying, i'm not going there. a lot of old people in there. yeah i know, it's so funny. >> i think you're, you know, if i'm off work for a week and i don't read the papers and that i don't, i come back and it's really hard for me to pull myself together. and i think when you're older, that's what happens if you're not stimulated. yeah, but but somebody who is old at 81 is the president of the united states. >> yeah, i mean he oh, hello. he could be 96. he's not the best example i know, but but but he's but it's great that older people run for a high office because they've got all that experience. but not in his case. >> i think personally there should be a cap on on running the country. you're right. probably and what age would we

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>> thank you very much. and happy saint george's day to you and all the listeners, all the viewers. >> what does it mean to you, nick? what are you going to do today? for instance, i'm attending an event in one in london for a society that celebrates saint george's day, but as a society , over the last but as a society, over the last few days, we've done a number of things, a number of the branches around the country have held events to celebrate saint george's day last saturday. we we laid a wreath at the tomb of the cenotaph and the tomb of the unknown warrior in westminster abbey , and we had a march past abbey, and we had a march past of 400 cadets so that was the main society celebration. >> and dare i say , that sort of >> and dare i say, that sort of passed under the radar, probably for most people . and they sound for most people. and they sound like exactly the sort of things we ought to be doing as a country today. eamonn's campaigning for us to have a bank holiday like the irish do. eamonn would come in on the 17th of march, head to toe, dressed in green, and doesn't understand why we english is so . in green, and doesn't understand why we english is so. i think it's self—deprecation, but he thinks it's just sort of well, what snobbery or reticence to.

>> it's very hard to explain to somebody who's irish who celebrates their national day why people in england don't have the same enthusiasm. that's the thing . thing. >> and i struggle with that. i absolutely agree, i think we should celebrate it. we should celebrate what unites us rather than what divides us. definitely. yeah. and i agree, i think and thanks to your channel, the cenotaph event was broadcast, and we've this year seemed to have a much bigger awareness of saint george's day. >> okay. you look at your society, for instance, what's your membership like? what's your membership like? what's your reach like at the moment? >> about 5000 members. yeah. and to be fair, based on not bad . to be fair, based on not bad. it's not bad. during the wars it was probably 50,000. hum, but over the last decade or so, there have been certain headwinds that certainly, patriotism has been conflated with nationalism as extreme, extreme organisations took the flag, took saint george, and

we're trying to fight to get that back. >> or with football, football fans.i >> or with football, football fans. i mean, that's where i see the flag most of the time during the flag most of the time during the world cups. >> but there is a concern. i've certainly gone to friends of mine who said, i'm national chairman of the royal society of saint george to take a step back. there's that concern about youh back. there's that concern about your, where you stand. i guess , your, where you stand. i guess, but it's made. it's made worse now as well because of the underlying trend, shall we say, in universities and schools to push a narrative that undermines all our history , what we've ever all our history, what we've ever done. now, yes, there are some bad things, but we've done good things. there's some great people inventors, playwrights , people inventors, playwrights, actors, artists, so on, so we should be celebrating. >> yeah. you see, i think you hit the nail on the head there. i think one of the great things the irish do is that they have music, they have dance, they have acting. and this and most of all, everything is oiled by

alcohol. absolutely >> we do that. >> we do that. >> so i suggest, yes, we might have some of that as well. >> a party day from, from start to finish or it can't be. and it's a great thing for, uniting families, families coming together and whatever. i think you've got to work on the social side of it all. >> oh, don't worry, we are. yeah, but i lived in the, in the uae for, 15 years. yeah. what they do on their national day is flags everywhere and go over the top. and i think we should do that. celebrate who we are, celebrate that history that the ideals, the traditions, a historian was telling us earlier that, saint george is so popular. >> he's also the patron saint of georgia and indeed russia, and another a number of other countries as well. so what is it about george that makes him such about george that makes him such a popular saint? >> this is dragon. >> this is dragon. >> well, wasn't that introduced later? >> that was introduced later? yes, it it's his image as, for valour, for courage , he was he valour, for courage, he was he was a martyr. so he was taken on

by, in about 1350 as our patron saint. but as you say, he's patron saint of many other countries. he's patron saint of the scouts as well . right, so the scouts as well. right, so we've had people in the studio yesterday and today who basically say they were born in england, but their parents were from, say, africa or their parents were from scotland or whatever, and they feel that they can't give the allegiance . they can't give the allegiance. i'm not really sure what they mean by that, but a lot of them are quite ashamed of the legacy that england has in the world. just briefly, what would you say about that? >> well, i disagree , my >> well, i disagree, my grandfather came from india back in the in the early 1900s. i was born here. i'm proud of this country. i'm proud of what we've achieved. yes there are things we need to learn from, but there are some great things there. as well, and it is disappointing when people come here, make their home here and then spend their home here and then spend their time degrading it. and i think that takes away for our youngeh think that takes away for our younger, the younger generation.

the foundations of who we are. and that makes it very difficult to build on. yeah >> well, look, you have a great day with your ceremony today. thanks for coming in today. happy saint george's day from us to you. and, for you watching and listening at home as well. >> and thank you to all of you who've been sending all your details about how you're going to be spending today, buying red roses, going to the pub to drink a pint , or roses, going to the pub to drink a pint, or indeed, just reflecting on the wonderful country that we are living in. thanks for your contributions. thanks for your contributions. thanks for your company this morning. we'll be back bright and early from 6:00 tomorrow. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello. very good morning to you. here's your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office . many of us will the met office. many of us will see some decent sunshine today, although in the southeast here there is quite a bit of cloud and also some drizzly rain . this

and also some drizzly rain. this pushing in across eastern parts of england this morning. feeding into parts of east anglia and towards london and kent. as we head towards the afternoon, some showery outbreaks across parts of the southwest. otherwise lots of the southwest. otherwise lots of places having a dry day, particularly across northern england, northern ireland and scotland. lots of sunshine and blue skies here, a bit of a west east split in our temperatures in the east. pretty cool at times. temperatures just about getting into double figures, milder or warmer further west with lots of places in the mid, possibly even high teens. any drizzly rain across parts of the southeast will clear away as we go through this evening, leaving a largely dry night and largely clear skies. two as a result, with the clear skies and some cold air making its way across the country, we are going to see temperatures taking a bit of a dip, so there will be a bit of frost around first thing tomorrow morning, particularly where we have some lengthy clear skies and away from eastern parts which are going to be a bit blustery as we go into tomorrow. so watch out for some blustery winds in the east, and also some fairly frequent

showers, which could turn a bit heavy across parts of east anglia and perhaps towards kent. elsewhere. again, lots of fine sunny weather around. just 1 or 2 showers to watch out for, but plenty of blue skies yet again. temperatures a little bit lower for many of us, so really feeling a bit cool considering it's the middle of spring by that warm feeling inside . that warm feeling inside. >> from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> morning, carole malone again . >> morning, carole malone again. hello huw edwards finally leaving the bbc. we're going to say how much he's been paid since he was taken off air. >> he's been on full salary. he gets 439 grand. yeah. highest paid newsreader on the bbc was he forced out. >> and when he's old, old. very good question for carole malone. >> hello. there's the pot calling the kettle.

black >> morning. 930 on tuesday, the 23rd of april, saint george's day. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and cheese. karen malone. >> a victory for rishi as his rwanda bill finally passes through parliament. but will these flights ever get off the ground? we will speak to reform uk leader richard tice for his reaction and channel migrant deaths. >> at least five have died trying to cross the english channel just hours after the rwanda bill passed. the irony of it all is china a threat to the uk? >> as police charge a parliamentary researcher with espionage? we'll talk to former tory leader iain duncan smith about his encounter with the chinese wolf warrior and happy saint george's day. >> red crosses will fly high as crowds gather across england to celebrate their patron saint. we'll be live with a knees up in dartford . dartford. >> we'd love to hear what you

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