month of march. you're tuned into whether it's on radio or television, online or via your speaker . it's television, online or via your speaker. it's eamonn holmes and isabel webster. breakfast on gb news. good to have your company. >> here's what's leading the news this morning. church conversion criticism. home office sources accused the religion undermining the religion of undermining the asylum after the clapham asylum system after the clapham chemical was allowed to chemical attacker was allowed to remain in britain, despite lying and failing a christianity test. >> a double departure for rishi sunak.the >> a double departure for rishi sunak. the exit of two more ministers forces the prime minister into a mini reshuffle . minister into a mini reshuffle. >> yes, two well respected ministers have stood down, causing rishi sunak yet another headache. and their replacements aren't everyone's cup of tea. find out more with me very soon. >> the duke of sussex dragged into the diddy lawsuit. >> prince harry has been named in the rap star's legal

proceedings, alleging that sean diddy combs used his name to give his sex trafficking parties legitimacy . legitimacy. >> wales failed to secure a place at euro 2024 after losing their play off against poland in a heartbreaking penalty shootout i >> -- >> as hospitals give free vapes in a bid to help thousands quit smoking, we'll be asking should they be provided to smokers free on the nhs.7 that's our debate. later >> and are you being short changed in a new easter egg.7 shrinkflation. changed in a new easter egg? shrinkflation. some eggs cost 50% more this year, while others are just smaller and in the sport are penalties . sport are penalties. >> penalties. it's the only way to go, of course. heartbreak for wales. more about that very shortly. as they go out to poland, they won't be at the euros, least they get a euros, but at least they get a summer holiday. looking summer holiday. maybe. looking on side, england get on the bright side, england get a late draw against belgium in their kit. that's their tin tin kit. that's belgium and scotland news for

the against northern the first time against northern ireland hampden for years. ireland at hampden for 50 years. and someone's be very and someone's going to be very happy that there. happy about that there. >> got heavy rain and >> we've got heavy rain and showers in the forecast today, but some sunshine to find out. all the weather details coming up in the programme . up in the programme. soon. >> home office sources have said the church runs the risk of undermining the integrity of the asylum system, after it was revealed that the chemical attack attacker, abdul ezedi, was allowed to stay in britain by a judge who accepted he was a convert. despite concerns the sex offender was in fact telling lies. >> beggars belief. seeing these documents for the first time, immigration files published by the home office now show that ezedi was granted asylum after his application was backed by a baptist church minister. well we're joined now by broadcaster paula london and immigration

lawyer ivan sampson on this one. >> paula , what do you feel when >> paula, what do you feel when you hear this news today ? you hear this news today? >> i'm not surprised. it's despicable. i remember not so long ago, the guy in liverpool that tried to blow up the maternity hospital. he did that because he was upset, maternity hospital. he did that because he was upset , because because he was upset, because they didn't believe him when he pretended to be a convert . so pretended to be a convert. so many people are lying and they're used to judges believing them, having lawyers believing them, having lawyers believing them, lawyers often tell them them, or lawyers often tell them what to say. and it's just disgusting. something needs to change rapidly in this country because we have too many human rights lawyers. we have too many judges that all seem to judges that all they seem to care about the welfare of care about is the welfare of asylum seekers. do not care asylum seekers. they do not care about the safety of british people working taxpayers, british people. we come secondary and whatever asylum seekers stay, it needs to be taken as gospel. this has been going on for decades, decades ago we had lots of albanians pretending to be kosovan because there was a war in kosovo. so they all rocked up and then

people are lying about their sexuality, their country of origin , their age, their name. origin, their age, their name. they're lying. and then so many people are believing them. but it's the detriment to the safety of british people. and enough is enough now and enough is enough. we're having a day we're having 500 people a day now, via dinghy. this now, arriving via dinghy. this can increase to a thousand a day at some point. >> ivan, is it all their idea whether to be kosovan or christian? or is it people of your own profession who say, here's how you get through the door ? door? >> well, first i'll be interested to know whether paul has actually read the judgement, because it was unusual for the court to release the judgement. >> don't make excuses for these men again. you have blood on your hands. lawyers like you. i'm really. sick of you i'm really. i'm sick of you always sticking up for these people. the that tried people. even the man that tried to a maternity hospital. do to bomb a maternity hospital. do you not that's despicable? you not think that's despicable? and have excuses for him? >> i think i'll be very careful making live broadcast accusations. i don't to be accusations. i don't have to be very careful . very careful. >> you should be very careful. >> you should be very careful. >> let tell you about

>> well, let me tell you about the judgement, we want the judgement, because we want to what the what the to look at what the what the court's considered what the court's considered and what the courts consider is the evidence. that's court considers. that's what the court considers. a have heard a judge would have heard evidence ezedi and although evidence from ezedi and although he found that although found he found that although he found that some of it was not credible, on the whole, he found his evidence to be consistent. now, that's one part of the evidence. the other part is the evidence. the other part is the evidence provided by the church. letters confirm that he was a genuine convert . there's also genuine convert. there's also evidence, photographic evidence of ezedi giving out leaflets. and that's not evidence, for god's sake. >> that's a photograph. a lawyer should know that , that's also, should know that, that's also, also evidence, a letter from the church confirming that he was a true convert. >> i think he would have been he would have been cross—examined both by the home office and the judge. ezedi on on whether his evidence was credible. on the whole, found it was. now whole, they found it was. now i ask you, ivan, when i finished, when i found it, what i find difficult is the church minister

wasn't cross—examined because what and i've been in court where churches have provided letters and on the whole the, the judge will accept the letters as written. i think what we need to see is the minister's being brought to the court for them to be cross—examined on that evidence, because at the moment that's not happening. >> struck off as well. >> struck off as well. >> well, okay. listen, ivan, i'm just curious about whether you think that the judge judge's judgement this case was good, judgement in this case was good, given what we now know, what is now in the public domain, the fact that he'd had multiple applications rejected by the home office, he'd remained in this illegally . this country illegally. >> he was also convicted in this country not sexual country of not only sexual assault, but also of exposing himself. and he was put on the sex offenders register for life. and church had expressed and the church had expressed concerns that he had to be accompanied by a chaperone. when attending their premises. and yet still felt that yet the judge still felt that his human rights entitled him to remain in the uk. on the balance of all of that, do you still

think it was the correct judgement? >> well, i think the home office could have challenged that judgement, but if wanted to judgement, but if they wanted to and home office lawyers and the home office lawyers would have looked to that judgement to see and the and you could challenge on a point could only challenge on a point of not a point or not on of law, not a point or not on the long as the the facts. so as long as the judge's complied with judge's judgement complied with the law in terms of the what's called the evidential burden on the balance of probabilities, he found the judge, they found the judgement safe. the home office didn't challenge it, now, you asked me whether i found the judgement to be correct. well, look, i wasn't there at the hearing. i didn't hear the cross—examination. it's very difficult for me to really answer that question. >> but you're right, ivan, from the point of view, that if it's if it's a point of law, it's a point of law, and our opinions sort of don't really come into it. but i'm interested in paula's opinion right now. and here's what i think. >> i look at this and i'm a female. i worry about female safety in this country. he doesn't about female safety

safety in this country. he diesn't about female safety safety in this country. he di care. about female safety safety in this country. he di care. so about female safety safety in this country. he di care. so iabout female safety safety in this country. he di care. so i willit female safety safety in this country. he di care. so i will alwayse safety safety in this country. he di care. so i will always speakty . i care. so i will always speak up for ladies that are worried about but he about their safety. but he thinks, just a pound thinks, oh, it's just a pound note. >> e you're $— @ you're saying, paula, >> so what you're saying, paula, is sort of what thinking is sort of what i'm thinking this morning. headline in this morning. the headline in the telegraph is churches the daily telegraph is churches undermining asylum system, undermining the asylum system, so you could , you so you could you could, you could look at this as the asylum system undermining churches or the other way, the other way about. but my point is, what has your religion or whoever your god what's that got god is, what's that really got to do, whether you can live in this country or not? >> well, the reason is, is article two and article three of the european convention protects , your rights. that's a right to life and right not to face persecution and torture. so there's countries in the world where if you're an apostate, if you converted, then you ultimately could be sentenced to death. >> well , death. >> well, britain isn't one of them. britain isn't one of those countries. so what i'm trying to say, it's just a loophole. >> it's a loophole that's all it is. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> she's. you're here, paul is saying it's just a loophole,

ivan. >> well, it's the law . so are we >> well, it's the law. so are we going to send people who are converted ? converted? >> a lot of legal aid lawyers are getting rich because of that. and it's wrong . that. and it's wrong. >> well, if i'm not a legal aid lawyer and i don't represent a single asylum seeker on legal aid, so the point is, we've got to comply with the law . now, to comply with the law. now, i agree with paula that someone like ezedi is on the face of it. seems like, you know, he was a horrible person to do that. i understand that, and i understand that, and i understand the emotions, but we have to consider the law and work within the confines of the law. >> and the liverpool that had a quran in his bag, and he pretended to be christian when he was going to blow up the maternity hospital. >> well, as i've said, i think that the evidence of the church needs to tested. at the needs to be tested. at the moment, we're getting is moment, all we're getting is letters ministers. now, letters from ministers. now, that's enough . i think that's not good enough. i think that's not good enough. i think that minister should be that the minister should be compelled give compelled to come to give evidence in the court so they themselves be cross—examined themselves can be cross—examined . now, are you saying that people pretend to be

people don't pretend to be christians? no doubt there are people like that out there. but we have christian. >> i tell you, every day they're using god's name in vain. like this. it's disgust as well. for one thing, i thought brexit was supposed to put end to all of supposed to put an end to all of this, that you were look at this, that you were to look at these european conventions and say, doesn't suit us. say, well, that doesn't suit us. >> that's not for us. so will not that. not be applying that. >> don't why we can't >> i don't know why we can't commit . commit. >> there's laws quite strong about people who commit criminal, criminal, criminal offences. if you're convicted offences. so if you're convicted offences. so if you're convicted of criminal which of a criminal offence which carries sentence more than carries a sentence of more than 12 that's automatic 12 months, that's automatic deportation , then the problem is deportation, then the problem is the government has the law, but is not enforcing it. we should deport people who have committed, who have committed criminal offences. they should be deported because a human rights lawyer is not doing okay. >> we're going to be talking to government representatives throughout programme throughout the programme this morning thank morning on this. ivan, thank you very stating the very much indeed for stating the case your case and pleading your the argument against there. paula, final what should we final word. just what should we be away from this today be taking away from this today on news agenda as we report

on the news agenda as we report this today? what should we be saying behalf of the british saying on behalf of the british population, the british public out there, we need to stop taking everything at face value. >> there are some genuine asylum seekers coming over. a lot of people are coming over and they hate they're lying about hate us and they're lying about their age, their country of origin , their nationality. origin, their nationality. they're they they're pulling any trick they can to try to get their asylum. granted, they're safe in france. they're not facing persecution. they're not facing persecution. they can get asylum for free. they're coming over here because we've human lawyers we've got human rights lawyers that through hoops so that will jump through hoops so they get their asylum they can get their asylum granted, queue and granted, and skip the queue and get housing above. a get social housing above. a british people stop believing all the lies that these asylum seekers are telling people. >> you very much. thank >> thank you very much. thank you both very, very much indeed. you'll get people you'll certainly get people talking and gauge talking today and we'll gauge that reaction throughout the programme. paula london and ivan samson, there . samson, there. >> it is fascinating when you when you hear some of the concerns over his dishonesty. apparently his apparently the judge was his name o'hanlon was name is william o'hanlon was presented with evidence that included previously

included that he'd previously claimed be a shia muslim, but claimed to be a shia muslim, but had worshipped as a sunni muslim muslim for many years. there's an inconsistency about his original faith. then he said his brother was and killed when brother was shot and killed when the bombed his home the taliban bombed his home in afghanistan . but he previously afghanistan. but he previously claimed happened in claimed that had happened in a mosque. he mosque. then he said he was injured grenade injured in a taliban grenade blast a previous hearing was blast and a previous hearing was given gp note saying that he given a gp note saying that he had injuries. but then had shrapnel injuries. but then a decided that had very a judge decided that had very little weight and then he was unable. have unable. despite claiming to have converted to christianity. to explain testament explain what the old testament was. and he believed that jesus christ in it and was christ featured in it and was unable to mention or come up with any christian hymns. so there were serious questions about how authentic his his conversion was. what's sad about this story for me, and i'll be interested to know if anyone agrees in all of that is the way the church is being attacked, because i think if you look at the church, they will always take on the case. >> this is a branch of the church. this is a baptist. >> fine, but i just but it >> fine, but i think just but it could i mean, the archbishop could be i mean, the archbishop of canterbury would probably

have thing, let's have done the same thing, let's be because the christian be honest, because the christian message is the person the message is the person at the lowest ebb. >> most hated >> the person who's most hated in there to be taken in society is there to be taken mercy on. but point is, the mercy on. but the point is, the judge saw this flimsy evidence, saw his conviction. as far saw his conviction. and as far as concerned, i think this as i'm concerned, i think this is a failing the asylum is a failing of the asylum system of the church. system and not of the church. anyone disagree? let me anyone agree or disagree? let me know think about all of know what you think about all of that. gb views gb news is very nice, is nice, but the church is completely irrelevant now. >> and age it's >> in this day and age it's completely irrelevant and it shouldn't part anybody's shouldn't be part of anybody's system. going to shouldn't be part of anybody's syspersecuted going to shouldn't be part of anybody's syspersecuted in going to shouldn't be part of anybody's syspersecuted in syria going to shouldn't be part of anybody's syspersecuted in syria oring to be persecuted in syria or whatever, they're syria, whatever, they're not in syria, they're britain. they're in britain. that shouldn't apply. shouldn't apply at all, i just i look at this and on instagram yesterday, i saw this piece. it was interesting and it was a guy in the street and he was stopping people and he was saying, can we talk about the lord jesus christ? people flew by. what's your what's your view on jesus christ? do you believe in jesus christ? do you believe in jesus christ? everybody in this film absolutely freaked , panicked at absolutely freaked, panicked at the idea of having to justify jesus or talk about jesus.

>> i think that's sad as well. >> i think that's sad as well. >> anyway. well, it may well be sad, but i'm just trying to say reality. the relevance of all of this sort of thing. i mean, listen, you couldn't have had more religion. i was dipped in religion coming of my ears , religion coming out of my ears, basically. and, but and sad basically. and, but and the sad thing, the terribly sad thing is to watch churches closing down the churches that, you know, i know people who were married in, buned know people who were married in, buried in, you know, communion con, all sorts of things. and, and they're closed. i know they're closed. there just isn't they're closed. there just isn't the belief there anymore for them. so why are we making out that, you know, if you say hallelujah, save me, lord, that you get into this country . what you get into this country. what a lot of rubbish gb views that gb news. >> com let us know, right? we're talking about politics now . it talking about politics now. it was a double departure yesterday for the prime minister two ministers quitting on the same day minutes. frankly day within minutes. frankly armed forces minister james heappey most high heappey probably the most high profile well as the higher profile as well as the higher education minister, robert

halfon, that halfon, both announcing that they're standing down they're not only standing down as but won't run as as ministers but won't run as mps general election . mps at the general election. >> there you are. you see, this sort of story just leaves me dead. >> well, is it a knock? is it a blow to the confidence in their prime minister? >> is it they see themselves as a sinking ship and the story and they're going to. and they're jumping ship. but are they ? jumping ship. but who are they? nobody clue who they are. nobody has a clue who they are. anyway, go olivia utley anyway, let's go to olivia utley in studio in london. they're in our studio in london. they're at. tell us more . at. tell us more. >> thank you for that introduction , eamonn. well, introduction, eamonn. well, these were two very respected ministers. james heappey was a former is a former soldier. he's been the only armed forces minister since the last general election. he was actually praised by labour on his departing day . robert halfon is departing day. robert halfon is seen as a champion of blue collar conservative, he's the man who's kept the fuel duty low for so many years. he was called by david cameron the most

expensive backbencher. he also introduced t levels that are equivalent to a levels, which give more, vocational skills. so these were two experienced and well respected ministers . but as well respected ministers. but as you say eamonn, they have stood aside probably because they don't really want to go down with the ship. they've been in for parliament a long time now. they're expecting the conservatives the next conservatives to lose the next election. they are stepping conservatives to lose the next electi along they are stepping conservatives to lose the next electi along withey are stepping conservatives to lose the next electi along with glare stepping conservatives to lose the next electi along with 61 of stepping conservatives to lose the next electi along with 61 of their)ing aside along with 61 of their colleagues. more, more mps have are standing down in this election than in any election since 1997. now, rishi sunak is scrabbling to fill their positions . he's got ngannou in positions. he's got ngannou in alan mak, a couple of old ministers who are back on the front benches again, and he is also replaced. lee anderson with jonathan gullace . now jonathan jonathan gullace. now jonathan gullace is very much like lee anderson in his outlook. he's a red wall mp, he's very critical of the metropolitan metropolitan elite . he's used the phrase chai elite. he's used the phrase chai latte something like seven times in parliament, the only time

that the phrase has ever gone onto hansard. while he criticises the metropolitan elite, as he puts it now, will he garner the same sort of respect in the red wall as lee anderson ? that is what rishi anderson? that is what rishi sunakis anderson? that is what rishi sunak is hoping. but plenty of rishi sunaks colleagues are saying that the prime minister is now just scraping the barrel, and pretty much anyone who wants to be a minister at this point can have a go. it just shows what a low ebb the conservative party is at at the beginning of this election year. >> olivia, keep your views coming in. let us know what you think. abdul ezedi who we were talking about, there, the guy who committed suicide jumped off the bridge after beating, abusing the chemical attack on his partner. and kate says, work . can the english seek asylum if we're trying to get out of this country? we're under attack in our own country, our culture, our own country, our culture, our standards of living, our history are women are unsafe, children unsafe from predators

on the streets, high crime rate . on the streets, high crime rate. we're not even being tried. crime rates are not even being attempted to be solved. and the flag identity is a problem as well. where can we go if we want to get out of this country? where do you think? where do you think brits go? where do brits go? >> canada, costa del sol. >> canada, costa del sol. >> well, can they go there i don't know, yeah, probably for 90 days. >> 90 days or something like that. post—brexit. >> you can, you can pay >> i hear you can, you can pay money, you can basically buy a house, you know, like whatever it is, £300,000 something, it is, £300,000 or something, and you in, in and they'll take you in, in portugal spain, they'll take portugal and spain, they'll take you in thailand, and you in in thailand, china and thailand. and well, if you thailand. and as well, if you invest in the country . invest in the country. >> thanks. i'll stay here. thanks. >> my green and pleasant land . >> my green and pleasant land. eileen, the church should not be allowed to be involved in illegal migration. they should be looking the flock that be looking after the flock that are local communities as well. >> that's what i tend to think as well. it's funny, you know, we went to to convert we went to africa to convert people. know, as christians. people. you know, as christians. that's did. they went people. you know, as christians. thafrica did. they went people. you know, as christians. thafrica to did. they went people. you know, as christians. thafrica to convertd. they went people. you know, as christians. thafrica to convert people.nent to africa to convert people. now, of course, find it very

now, of course, i find it very strange that you've got a lot of african ministers, in british churches as it's now reversed. and of course , it's, we're and of course, it's, we're trying to get converts into this country, but the church and the idea of the church said, i'm not going to take any joy in saying this, but it is wrecked. >> it is. but oh, gosh, i mean, this i could talk a lot about this i could talk a lot about this topic, but i honestly think, what have we replaced it with? what have we as a society replaced christianity, which gave us so of our gave us so many of our fundamental outlook fundamental laws, our outlook on everything . we yesterday everything. we talked yesterday about volunteers. we about the lack of volunteers. we talk duty . we talk about talk about duty. we talk about doing the right thing. we talk about i honestly about fidelity. i honestly believe you know, whether believe we've, you know, whether you like or loathe christianity , you like or loathe christianity, losing it, i think, has been replaced some large way by replaced in some large way by narcissism. mobile phones, people filming themselves, talking , going talking about themselves, going out for themselves. i think it's i think really sad i think it's really sad personally, let's have a little look at what else is happening. news wise, six workers presumed dead after that bridge collapse

in baltimore yesterday, a cargo ship colliding with the francis scott key bridge, which there was a result of that. the coastguard and maryland state police have said that active search and rescue operations have been suspended until weather conditions improve satisfaction with the nhs has fallen to a record low. >> only 1 in 4 people say they're happy with the service. experts claim that the public feel like they're stuck in a toxic relationship with the nhs. the annual report by the king's fund and the nuffield trust think tanks found that public confidence in the health service is at lowest since polling is at its lowest since polling beganin is at its lowest since polling began in 1983. >> a former british museum curator has been ordered by the high court to return stolen artefacts within four weeks. his doctor, peter higgs . he artefacts within four weeks. his doctor, peter higgs. he was dismissed for misconduct. he faces allegations of theft and damage, for over 1800 historical items. these are accusations

that the doctor denies. the court also ordered mr higgs to disclose records from his ebay and paypal accounts, following claims he listed hundreds of these stolen items for sale . these stolen items for sale. online. well, you know, we're talking about, you know, where brits want to go if they want to escape, the way this country is going , where they would seek going, where they would seek asylum, where would they be allowed into a lot of people head away for easter. so many people head away for easter , i people head away for easter, i never do. what a nightmare. being stuck in going anywhere in these when it's school holidays . these when it's school holidays. >> pretty grim. yeah, only 18.5 million drivers are going to be on the roads on saturday. will either be one of them over the bank holiday. do you know what i've been contemplating a little trip up to scotland and looking at the train versus the plane versus driving. and my

conclusion i'm not sure i'm conclusion is, i'm not sure i'm going to it at all anyway, going to do it at all anyway, let's thoughts this let's get the thoughts this morning travel expert simon morning of travel expert simon calder. he can tell us about statistics. 2.3 million people expected travel over the expected to travel over the weekend. good to see you, simon. are you one of those? what's it going to be like out there? >> not going to >> i'm certainly not going to try travel anywhere. it's try and travel anywhere. it's going to be pretty horrible. yes. let tell you about, yes. let me tell you about, record numbers of passengers at the airports. i'm talking to bristol, to newcastle , to bristol, to newcastle, to edinburgh airport, they say. yep, it's going to be our busiest easter ever. incredibly busy. of course , at the other busy. of course, at the other major airports, including london heathrow , gatwick, stansted, heathrow, gatwick, stansted, luton and manchester airport, and on the roads it's going to be absolutely horrible and the rac has predicted exactly when you are likely to be finding the worst congestion. it's going to be well, thursday is going to be absolutely horrible. that's because you've got a large number of people all setting

off, at the end of the school, terms for an awful lot of people. and they are merging. well, they're trying to with all the, commuters and normal weekday traffic that's also going to, rumble on into the weekend. you basically don't want to be anywhere near the western side of the m25 . that's western side of the m25. that's anywhere around from the, gatwick. turn off the m23 all the way around to the m1, turn off, that's going to be pretty grim. and then some absolute cute spots to avoid particularly good friday, going to be on the m5 heading south from bristol towards taunton. an awful lot of people of course, will be setting off, to go to the west country , from the midlands, from country, from the midlands, from the north of england, and also , the north of england, and also, looking more widely further north, the m6 is going to be very tricky, particularly at that place, north of preston, where everybody turns off to go

to the lovely lake district. so wherever you are going, the advice is set off early , or set advice is set off early, or set off late, my friend, i know you will, echo what i'm about to say here. >> just respect for people who have to work in the airline industry and whatever it is on the ground or in the air. and we didn't even mention trains because i'm not even sure trains are running. i think there is going to be disruption again. there would be disruption even if they were running. but, we what's the what's the latest on trains that you're hearing ? trains that you're hearing? >> well, yeah. i'm speaking to you from manchester. i was 40 minutes late coming up. nobody, apparently there's a swan on the line, so, yeah, things getting, not not getting any easier. but we do know, it that there will not be any avanti west coast trains running on any day from good friday through to easter monday on the crucial stretch between milton keynes central and london euston. they're doing and london euston. they're doing

a lot of work on the line and thatis a lot of work on the line and that is one of the key , lines, that is one of the key, lines, of course, going in and out. and that might well be by getting up to scotland is proving so tricky. lots of pressure on the east coast main line from anglo—scottish travellers and also the midland main line going up from london, saint pancras to sheffield as people try and find a diversion route. east anglia it's now pretty traditional that, on any bank holiday weekend you're not going to be able to travel without a bus replacement service between norwich, ipswich, colchester or southend and i hate a bus replacement service. >> nothing worse. >> nothing worse. >> many other many other parts of, the uk there are hundreds of network rail projects. they say , network rail projects. they say, yeah, we do this work because there aren't that many other people travelling . people travelling. >> but, that hasn't put us all off. >> exactly. you're really selling it, simon? >> no, i'm quite right. sound advice mate . thank you very much advice mate. thank you very much indeed, simon. really appreciate it. and have a good easter, mate. >> maybe it'll be good weather

to stay at home. no, no, no. hold on. oh, yeah, the thing about easter is we'll. i intend to stay home and watch boxsets or whatever the heck is just turned into a couch potato. so basically, this morning, if you would like to recommend on any channel, i watched a thing on netflix. the trouble is, there's so many series starring, netflix. the trouble is, there's so many series starring , not so so many series starring, not so many famous people that you can't remember what they're called or what station they were on or whatever, but i did watch a guy ritchie production called gentleman . yeah, and you rated gentleman. yeah, and you rated it superb. yeah, superb. really good. i'd recommend that one to you folks. if you've got anything you'd like to recommend back to us, let us know. gb views or gbnews.com. happy easter. here's the weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello there! welcome to your latest gb news weather. low pressure continues to dominate

the weather pattern through today. further spells of rain, heavy showers , blustery winds heavy showers, blustery winds over the next few days as well. so looking at the bigger picture, we do have rain across northern and western parts of the morning. some the uk this morning. some localised flooding possible across northern across parts of northern ireland, in particular as the heavy from overnight slowly heavy rain from overnight slowly clears. spells clears. some bright spells developing as we move into the afternoon. but this trigger afternoon. but this will trigger some thundery showers with some heavy thundery showers with some heavy thundery showers with some possible with brisk some hail possible with brisk southerly winds. it will feel quite chilly in the south and the west here. highs 11 or 12 the west here. highs of 11 or 12 celsius any brighter skies we celsius in any brighter skies we could see highs of 13 or 14 in a few sheltered spots into the evening time. further heavy showers pushed northwards across the country, these merging into some longer spells of rain and then during the early hours, this batch wet weather moves this batch of wet weather moves into central southern parts of england wales be heavy england and wales could be heavy at so cloudy night here at times, so a cloudy night here but skies across but clearing skies across northern ireland and scotland. a touch of frost and some fog here as temperatures fall close to, if not freezing. so if not below freezing. so a north—south split to start

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next. wales against poland. we've got to start there this morning . big to start there this morning. big commiserations to you. if you're welsh or you were behind them . i welsh or you were behind them. i think everybody was neutral. was behind wales last year. yeah i think so. poland are there poland. >> poland. are now in the euros. it was it was a one off game. i mean there was the, there was the two play offs. so wales got through the first one where they won four one and then they had to go which was against finland and had to play and and then had to play poland. and i saying i don't think it's i was saying i don't think it's going to be that easy. and it obviously wasn't, it was nil. nil went all way to nil went all the way to penalties. it it's penalties. it kind of it's memories and you memories of 1973. and do you remember there was yan thomashefsky who was the famous goalkeeper. do you remember of poland and england were playing poland and england were playing poland back in 73. >> him a fool was a brian clough. >> was brian clough called him? yeah. called him clown, didn't yeah. called him a clown, didn't he, he out he, klein. and he turned out to be goalkeeper, whereas be a great goalkeeper, whereas the was chesney the clown was, was chesney because made some great saves because he made some great saves yesterday and wales just

couldn't score. and also poland, they didn't one shot on they didn't have one shot on goalin they didn't have one shot on goal in the whole game. so it goes to penalties and i know you're how do you feel about penalties. you're a little unsure because i think it's an incredibly exciting way it's incredibly exciting way to it's great you win but great if you win but it's heartbreaking you isn't heartbreaking if you lose isn't it? i see, i can see why they >> i can see, i can see why they do it. but, i'm very against it. in the fa cup, i do genuinely believe replays are needed in the fa cup because smaller the fa cup because the smaller teams draw the bigger. teams need to draw the bigger. i agree, with that. agree, i agree with that. >> but eventually, yeah, to actually tie . yeah, you actually end the tie. yeah, you know there's all these different ways and is it a lottery? ways and oh is it a lottery? it's and you see it's not a lottery. and you see the people take it's got to the way people take it's got to be as a skill. be seen as a skill. >> you've got to be able to do that 100. >> it's not only football skill but mental skill as well. and dan unfortunately the dan james was unfortunately the player and chesney dan james was unfortunately the player saved and chesney dan james was unfortunately the player saved it. and chesney dan james was unfortunately the player saved it. and! chesney dan james was unfortunately the player saved it. and there iney dan james was unfortunately the player saved it. and there we chesney saved it. and there we are. wales are out now and so they won't be the euros they won't be at the euros in they won't be at the euros in the and poland be, the summer and poland will be, the, the other game i obviously want to mention is my own team, northern ireland and against scotland, scotland. northern ireland and against scowe're scotland. northern ireland and against scowe're sc(a.and.

northern ireland and against scowe're sc(a wee bit of a dip >> we're on a wee bit of a dip in form. it has to be said, but, you know, a very credible outfit . scotland. yeah. and for to northern ireland win one nil conor bradley, you know he's doing so well for liverpool, i think i think it's a really strong win for northern ireland. >> it's a huge win. >> it's a huge win. >> and also it's great when you've got a player only a friendly though, you know it doesn't matter though does it? a game's a game. you know they're doesn't matter though does it? a gangoing game. you know they're doesn't matter though does it? a gangoing ga|wantou know they're doesn't matter though does it? a gangoing ga|want to. know they're not going to want to. >> like the home >> it's like the home internationals we to have. internationals we used to have. >> you used love the home >> you used to love the home internationals and it more internationals and it was more important though those days, important though in those days, even can look back and even though we can look back and think, oh, wouldn't be great think, oh, wouldn't it be great to those again? the most to have those again? the most important thing about the home internationals day internationals back in the day is was like there'd is because it was like there'd be games live on tv. not all of them england scotland them were the england scotland game was, which was always the one ended and they always one that ended and they always started. was usually started. whether he was usually a england, northern a member of england, northern ireland. george ireland. and you remember george best the out of best knocking the ball out of peter were you there peter shilton's. were you there that goal that day? yeah and the goal wasn't wasn't given. >> and then england won with an offside goal. i think it was

from francis lee. yeah, i think it was, but it was sun was shining. it was amazing. it was amazing in amazing to see george best in action banks i mean action and gordon banks i mean these it was. these big it was. >> yeah. yeah. >> yeah. yeah. >> turn up at windsor park >> to turn up at windsor park and see these big names. yeah. that were playing for england. i mean was, it was a big thing. mean it was, it was a big thing. no i love that. no i love, love that. >> but we should mention england as england belgium >> but we should mention england as night.|gland belgium >> but we should mention england as night.|glancthat belgium >> but we should mention england as night.|glancthat was3elgium last night. yeah that was a friendly well. and belgium friendly as well. and belgium were tin tin kit you were wearing the tin tin kit you know. are you aware about look see that. and i don't see look at that. and i don't know if this is actually true and is that inspired by and is that it is inspired by tintin well because tintin because why. well because of herge. >> herge's of herge. » herge-s >> herge's adventures of tintin. >> herge's adventures of tintin. >> and was what tintin wore i >> -- >> who are you with? >> who are you with? >> us. oh, yeah. absolutely. i know all about tintin . know all about tintin. >> and you know that phrase, do you? that hershey's adventures of tintin? no, i that of tintin? no, no, i find that really of tintin? no, no, i find that reaidid you tintin creepy? i >> did you find tintin creepy? i just did stupid hair. >> stupid dog. >> stupid dog. >> stupid dog. >> stupid dog, stupid spinach. >> belgians for you all over that is. >> i'll tell you that i've ever sat down and said 10/10 on at 6:00. >> i'd better watch ten. ten.

>> i'd better watch ten. ten. >> no. not really. never, never. >> no. not really. never, never. >> but in belgium, i'll tell you what. everybody would watch it. >> their finest export and who? >> their finest export and who? >> and a famous pop band got their name from who ? in tintin. their name from who? in tintin. >> oh, captain haddock. no, it wasn't you, remember? >> you remember that great band, captain haddock was the captain haddock. >> it was captain. >> it was captain. >> it was the thompson twins. they were the two twins with the bowler hats . so thompson twins bowler hats. so thompson twins were named after the thompson twins in tintin. gosh did you know that? >> well, you didn't know that. >> well, you didn't know that. >> but why is the kit called the tintin kit? >> because if we have >> well, because if we have another at kit, that's another look at the kit, that's how. that's how tintin would dress. had the light blue dress. he had the light blue jumper with the brown trousers and the white socks on, but. >> and the red hair. >> and the red hair. >> so it is. yeah, yeah. so it's dedicated. i mean, it would have be nice if they probably had the hairstyle and walked out with, hairstyle and walked outwith, with little white dogs, then it might give it or captain might give it away or captain haddock would have been might give it away or captain hadchut would have been might give it away or captain hadchut but would have been might give it away or captain hadchut but that's ld have been might give it away or captain haddc but but that's that's e been might give it away or captain haddc but but that's that's why. en good. but but that's that's why. but anyway there were but anyway england, there were

goods. was good and goods. there was good stuff and bad stuff, who made bad stuff, copy. manu who made his manchester his debut? manchester united player. going he is player. he is going to be. he is a act. he's. i'm sure he's a class act. he's. i'm sure he's going to go to the euros. he reminds me of peters, reminds me of martin peters, 1966. had never played a game for until a couple of for england until a couple of months before made his months before they made his debut. he got himself into debut. then he got himself into the the final. the team, scored in the final. so i think is going to so i think kobe manu is going to be a star at the euros. >> should go? >> should he go? >> should he go? >> you're mentioning the belgium kit and there's a number kit there and there's a number of kits you want to hire. >> yeah, there is, there is for the euros. now there's been some controversy and some interest about obviously about different kits. obviously the we know about the england one we know about england we. the saint england don't we. and the saint george's the george's flag. there was the controversy that. is controversy about that. that is obviously the not the england flag that is the three lions. but what can you do . but there but what can you do. but there we are. so there's that one, the other, the other things that there's been a few controversies about. we've got another shirt here. this is probably here. i think this is probably the germany one. have we got the german there we are, german one. there we are, there's german one. we there's the german one. we talked about yesterday. talked about that yesterday. >> colour. is the >> it's a colour. is your is the

pink. >> e“ e’— w the pink that >> yeah. that's the pink that some people are a bit some people are unhappy. a bit happy about belgian shirt happy about the belgian shirt which just talked about, which we just talked about, the tintin shirt do very tintin shirt which i do very much but in france there's much like. but in france there's been. >> see, i don't like that. >> see, i don't like that. >> do you know the away >> do you know it's the away shirt? of city. shirt? no it reminds me of city. yeah, they don't have yeah, but it's. they don't have the brown trousers. you should remind of tintin. remind you of tintin. >> no, can't, i can't, i >> no, ijust can't, i can't, i can't look at that. it just reminds me of city. why reminds me of man city. so why can't that? can't i like that? >> okay. >> okay. >> oh, well, i like it. it's okay. >> all right. >> all right. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> what about. have you heard my heart? >> i know you wouldn't like it. >> i know you wouldn't like it. >> i know i understand that. what about france, then? >> what about them? >> what about them? >> their emblem. >> well, france, their emblem. let's a look. have a let's have a look. let's have a look it was looking. the look at how it was looking. the emblem. the france emblem is a small cock mate. no, a small male chicken. i think you'll find a small chicken. find it's a small male chicken. >> that's cock. >> that's a cock. >> okay, well , they've increased >> okay, well, they've increased the size that and it's now the size of that and it's now much larger than it used to be. look at the size of that male chicken on that shirt . chicken on that shirt. >> it's massive. >> it's massive. >> it's massive. >> it is massive. and i think

they've over if i don't want to, you know, make a pun but they've overegged the size of the of the, of the male chicken on the shirt. look at the size of that. >> i wonder why i wonder why they see that as being really important . important. >> i don't know, but they they obviously find it very important and a controversy. so that's the change is the size of the emblem okay. on the france shirt. >> that'll be interesting to see. >> that's very interesting to see shirts changed. and see how shirts have changed. and they're looking for they're always looking for something twiddle with. something to twiddle with. >> will be let's do this. >> and like i know it's it shows this this whatever. but anyway, did i navigate my way through the very good, very good. >> okay, go find some more and we'll see you. >> let's see what i can do. yeah, i'll have a look for you. >> okay. thanks very much. >> okay. thanks very much. >> right. still to come. >> all right. still to come. we're through papers we're going through the papers this joined by this morning. we're joined by norman renee norman baker and renee hoenderkamp. they normally have a a ding dong, so stay

a bit of a ding dong, so stay

>> stories. making the news this morning. we do that in the company of norman baker and renee hoenderkamp . very good to renee hoenderkamp. very good to see you both. and, we're talking about this guy, what's his name? >> abdul ezedi . >> abdul ezedi. >> abdul ezedi. >> ezedi. >> ezedi. >> and, we're talking about high, he's committed suicide. and how he was applying to be a british citizen and how big norman religion was playing a part in him being accepted or not accepted , we've had a good not accepted, we've had a good debate on this this morning, norman, i have to say to you people. people just don't see why so far. they don't see why his religion, his religious beliefs , has got anything to do beliefs, has got anything to do with staying in this country. well, i totally agree with that . well, i totally agree with that. >> i mean, i think if >> look, i mean, i think if people come here they commit people come here and they commit horrendous as horrendous acts of violence, as this has, then this particular person has, then they forfeit their right to be here, in my view. i mean, they can't really apply refugee can't really apply for refugee status behaved in status if they've behaved in

that way. but secondly, on the on religious point, i mean , on the religious point, i mean, the fact first of all, i don't believe he's converted to christianity on the christianity based on the questions has been questions which has been answered but even answered in the paper. but even if had , that's guarantee if he had, that's no guarantee he's an acceptable he's going to be an acceptable citizen. i'm sorry, there are christians, people who say they're the they're christians around the world quite world who behave quite abominably . absolutely. so abominably. absolutely. so there's no not there's no there's no that's not a pass. many branches of christianity. >> i mean, why is this not the church of england? we're talking about this a baptist church about? this is a baptist church that it. yes. well that endorsed it. yes. well i mean, look, i mean, it's no it's no guarantee of good behaviour to to yourself christian. >> so it's completely irrelevant in the, in the application he's made. >> i think it should be completely irrelevant in all asylum i don't asylum applications. i don't think you're christian think whether you're christian or, you know, or, or sikh or, you know, muslim or, or sikh or, you know, muslim or, or sikh or should come into it. or anything should come into it. i think more importantly with this he'd actually been this guy is he'd actually been turned already. yes. and turned down already. yes. and this was a third attempt at this was like a third attempt at convincing judge that he ought convincing a judge that he ought to be here. so it was blatantly , to be here. so it was blatantly, blatantly just a con really, for him to get his british

citizenship. and i think we need to question our entire system of how we're assessing people for their status. we accept more people who get off the boats or come in legitimately than any other country in europe, and we have to ask why? and it's because we take this kind of thing into account. people saying that they're gay into account, into account. and account, trans into account. and i'm , there's too many. i'm sorry, there's too many. >> but our immigration lawyer today was saying , say, wherever today was saying, say, wherever this guy came from and say, christianity was deemed to be a crime in that country, and he couldn't then go back there. of course, the point was the point that you were making was this guy had many religions before he actually came to this country and said, oh yeah, christianity suits me. >> yeah. did only think >> yeah. why did he only think of on the third attempt? of it on the third attempt? >> because going to stop >> because it's going to stop him. why was it a third him. well why was it a third attempt is the point. >> there should be an >> i mean, there should be an assessment and there assessment carried out and there should right of appeal, and should be a right of appeal, and that's the of it. that's the end of it. >> but where do where does this get sorted? >> obviously we had the

>> because obviously we had the immigration this morning immigration lawyer this morning saying a point of saying that this was a point of law. you know, it's got law. so you know, it's got nothing to do with, the government's position of government's position on all of this, that this, even though they say that they're than ever. they're tougher than ever. >> a european law. >> but it's a european law. >> but it's a european law. >> is this the echr at fault? because we were out of the because if we were out of the echr, presumably we would have human this human rights laws in this country would country which would protect those protected. those kind of protected. >> look, mean, it's like >> well, look, i mean, it's like it's religion or your sexuality. it's that you it's perfectly true that if you are coming from a country which makes it illegal to be a christian to be gay, christian or illegal to be gay, or it happens be, or whatever it happens to be, then is a consideration to then that is a consideration to be taken into account. you be taken into account. but, you know, complying with human know, even complying with human rights you don't rights legislation, you don't have appeals. yeah. have three appeals. yeah. you just yeah. let's just don't. yeah. let's talk about it. >> oh, yeah. here's the one. front page, front page of the mirror. traitors brits fighting for putin. i thought this was a really interesting story. explain this one to us. norman. >> well , i explain this one to us. norman. >> well, i mean, these are two people who appear rather unsavoury characters, if i may say so, who are fighting for the russians. one of them is, a former national front member and

a convicted thug, as is described by the by the mirror. the other has been jailed for terrorism offences after spending four months helping the russians in 2015. i mean, i just don't think people should be in anybody else's army at all. they should be in the british army or not in any army, and they shouldn't be allowed to be mercenaries. >> joining us now, minister of state. let me guess, for science research and innovation, he is andrew griffith. yes. >> good morning to you , >> good morning to you, minister. i don't know how much of discussion of the papers of our discussion of the papers you've to hear so far you've been able to hear so far this morning. but obviously, hot topic clapham chemical topic is the clapham chemical attacker. ezedi and it attacker. abdul ezedi and it begs one question. why on earth was he able to appeal three times? and in this third appeal, was the judge granting him asylum, even though he was a convicted sex offender and had two cases thrown out ? two previous cases thrown out? >> well, you raise a very >> well, look, you raise a very good question. >> and you know, what we can't have is a system driven by credulous clerics and lefty lawyers, which is precisely why this government is taking

forward legislation that will ensure that people like ezedi should never be in this country in the first place. >> he arrived here illegally. we don't think anybody who arrives here illegally should be able to stay. that's why we're just a busload of votes away from being able to get through the house of lords. our plan that will make it illegal, that will allow us to return people like ezedi have them out of this country, protect people . and that protect people. and that legislation has been opposed. a regret by labour each and every time we've brought it forward. >> that legislation not yet in place. i suppose the question remains how many other people like abdul ezedi remain at large in given these in this country, given these massive loopholes that have been enabung massive loopholes that have been enabling people to stay enabling people like him to stay in country, the in this country, costing the taxpayers fortune ? taxpayers a fortune? >> yeah, and that's why the prime minister's made it. it's one of our absolute five priority things. we will the prime minister has been clear. we will start those returns

later this spring. we will get that legislation through and we will do everything that it takes to protect the public and to remove people who come here illegally. there's no reason for people to do that. france is a safe country. it's a fellow g7 member. and if people arrive here illegally, they need to understand that they will not be allowed to stay, they will not be granted asylum. and they will ultimately be removed. >> andrew, what about people removing themselves from you, removing themselves from you, removing themselves from you, removing themselves the removing themselves from the conservative party to more, today it's just not a good look. what would you like to say to youn what would you like to say to your, your . well, there they your, your. well, there they are, colleagues, but they're also former colleagues as well. now declared today. what would you that front . you say on that front. >> well, look to two colleagues who've given great service to this country, to this party, both very long standing members of parliament. you know, understandably, people from time to time will decide that the

right thing for their next chapter, their families, having given that long service, is to move on and do other things. that's not unusual at this point in the parliament, what i, my colleagues are focused on is the economy . the plan is working, economy. the plan is working, inflation is falling . we're inflation is falling. we're starting to see the benefits of that. starting to see the benefits of that . people should be able to that. people should be able to look forward to interest rates falling over time, and that's what this government is focused on. so, so of course in common at large, any law, any large, any large organisation, you're going to see people , at going to see people, at different points in their careers. >> it's because it's a sinking ship, isn't it? i mean, the 60 mps saying they're not going to stand again. they know that a lot of them just frankly can't win in their constituencies. >> no, i look, i absolutely think that the conservatives can win the election. there's important things. it's been a difficult number of years. no one foresaw the covid pandemic. nobody saw russia's invasion of

ukraine. so it's been difficult for everybody in the country. i understand that , people, you understand that, people, you know, have had their frustrations , but the answers to frustrations, but the answers to those frustrations are all conservative. if you're worried about your train service, not being reliable, the answer isn't to repeal every single law. trade union law passed since the 19705. if trade union law passed since the 1970s. if you're worried about your interest rates being too high, it's not to have the hundreds of billions of unfunded spending promises from labour. so i understand where people are. they've been they've been grumpy. we're focusing on delivering our plan. and that's, i think, the way the british people are being grumpy, that the right answer is conservative, you know, are the answers all conservative? >> you've been 14 years in power. you look at the waiting list. one of rishi sunak five pledges was to cut the waiting list. the king's fund and nuffield trust today saying the pubuc nuffield trust today saying the public think they're in toxic public think they're in a toxic relationship health relationship with the health service. 4 saying that they service. 1 in 4 saying that they have lost faith in it and that

confidence is the lowest on record . record. >> yeah, and look, those those numbers, you know, should be of concern to every body , they're concern to every body, they're worse in labour wales, in laboun worse in labour wales, in labour, wales , the confidence in labour, wales, the confidence in the nhs was significantly lower. but those numbers aren't good for anybody, don't get me wrong. but for the last four consecutive months, waiting lists have fallen. the longest waits in particular those over two years, those over 18 months have now almost been eliminated. there are record resources going into the nhs despite the strikes. we continue to make forward progress and of course we come off the back of a pandemic which did did , you pandemic which did did, you know, put huge challenge and strain on our health care system. >> well, what do you do, andrew? and i'm sorry we don't spend more time in this fascinating area , in science, research and area, in science, research and innovation that you do . michelle innovation that you do. michelle donelan, who's appeared on the programme a good few times

talking about, the area she is the secretary of state for all of this. now she's going to be speaking at the national natural history museum today. now you're going to be talking about the digital ization of historic specimens . looking at that, how specimens. looking at that, how does that help us today ? does that help us today? >> well, the uk and the natural history museum in particular has got this unparalleled resource, 137 million specimens gathered from the victorian era onwards. and if you like, that's a record of what's happened to nature , of what's happened to nature, some of how things have been impacted by climate , how disease impacted by climate, how disease or potentially disease carrying , or potentially disease carrying, creatures like mosquitoes have moved around over time. and so the digitisation of that fantastic resource is one of the programs that we've announced today. another is one of the world's most sensitive

microscopes that can see what's going on in individual atoms and molecules in real time, that will help us understand new materials . it could help materials. it could help potentially find new drugs , potentially find new drugs, discover, you know what? why particular ailments and diseases happen. so, you know, science is incredibly important, and it impacts on all of our day to day lives because it's how we live better quality, healthier lives going forward. one of the things we should all be really proud of as a country is that the uk is one of the world's superpowers in science, you know, we make a massive contribution and that in turn creates jobs up and down the uk. that that microscope that i talked about, you the uk. that that microscope that i talked about , you know, that i talked about, you know, that's up in liverpool. so this isn't just, you know, academic sciences in the south—east of england. this is spread across the uk benefiting the whole uk benefiting everybody, massively everybody, science is massively important . security, national important. security, national security, defence, massively important . i security, defence, massively important. i just want to ask you about grant shapps yesterday he was talking about the defence budget. he admitted that the

figures were misleading, but he's called a cheat. and he's been called a cheat. and this morning, lieutenant general sir bob mcgowan saying we can't afford enough ammunition to protect britain. should we be concerned ? concerned? >> well, i think everybody is concerned about defence, no more so than this government. that's why we've put unprecedented resources as well as providing the second largest amount of military aid and support to ukraine, which is the nearest hot war on our on our, you know, in, in the continent of europe. so, you know, of course, everybody should be concerned and this government is committed to increasing the levels that we spend on defence, picture or not, time that has that has that has to be balanced with the affordability of doing that. >> andrew. appreciate it. got to leave it there. >> thank you very much indeed. that's, andrew griffith. have a good day today at the natural history museum. he is the

minister of state for science, research and innovation in the studio. norman and renee studio. norman baker and renee hoenderkamp norman. any hoenderkamp there. norman. any observations the observations about what the minister about those minister was saying about those various ? we've got various subjects? we've got about 40s? >> mean, you asked. he >> well, i mean, you asked. he was asked a question about apples answered about pears. apples and answered about pears. it's of it. i mean, it's the reality of it. i mean, you know, he was asked about the specific case about this chemical attacker and gave a wide on small boats, wide answer on on small boats, which are not relevant at all to the question in. so i think ministers ought answer the ministers ought to answer the question they're given to question which they're given to be frank and what be perfectly frank and what about about two, the about what about the two, the two that are jumping ship? >> i think he put up >> look, i think he put up a very valiant defence of them, didn't he? but actually, to be fair, we know that they think they can't win their seats and they're just going before the humiliation comes. >> okay. thank you much >> okay. thank you very much indeed. both see you again indeed. both will see you again indeed. both will see you again in 40 minutes time. right now we're going see greg dewhurst i >> -- >>a >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar , the sponsors of weather solar, the sponsors of weather on gb news.

>> hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather. low pressure continues to dominate the weather pattern through today. further spells of rain, heavy showers, blustery winds over the next few days as well. so looking at the bigger picture, we do have rain across northern and western parts of the this morning. some the uk this morning. some localised flooding possible the uk this morning. some localisparts oding possible the uk this morning. some localisparts ofing possible the uk this morning. some localisparts of northernile the uk this morning. some localisparts of northern ireland across parts of northern ireland in particular heavy rain in particular as the heavy rain from slowly clears . from overnight slowly clears. some bright spells developing as from overnight slowly clears. sormove ght spells developing as from overnight slowly clears. sormove into pells developing as from overnight slowly clears. sormove into thes developing as from overnight slowly clears. sormove into the afternoon,1g as from overnight slowly clears. sormove into the afternoon, buts we move into the afternoon, but this will trigger heavy this will trigger some heavy thundery showers some hail thundery showers with some hail possible with brisk southerly winds. it will quite chilly winds. it will feel quite chilly in the south and the west. here. highs of 11 or 12 celsius in any brighter skies we could see highs of 13 or 14 in a few sheltered spots into the evening time. further heavy showers pushed northwards across the country, these merging into some longer spells of rain and then dunng longer spells of rain and then during the early hours, this batch of weather into batch of wet weather moves into central, southern parts of england and wales could be heavy at so a cloudy night here at times, so a cloudy night here but clearing skies across northern ireland and scotland. a

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gb news. >> church conversion criticism. home office sources accused the christianity religion of undermining the asylum system . undermining the asylum system. >> that's after the clapham chemical attacker was allowed to

remain in this country. despite lying and failing his christianity test. >> double departure for rishi sunak.the >> double departure for rishi sunak. the exit of two more tory ministers, forcing the prime minister into a pre—easter reshuffle . reshuffle. >> yes, another big headache for rishi sunak as two experienced ministers decide that they don't want to go down with the ship. find out more with me very soon. >> the duke of sussex dragged into the diddy lawsuit. >> prince harry has been named in the rap star's legal proceedings, alleging that sean diddy combs used his name to give sex trafficking parties little intimacy. >> wales failed to secure a place at euro 2024 after losing their play off final against poland in a heartbreak penalty shootout. worst way to go hospitals give free vapes in a

bid to help thousands quit smoking. >> we'll be asking should they be provided to smokers free on the nhs? one minute they're very bad for us, the next minute you can pick them up free. that's our debate. later at. >> and are we being short changed in a new easter egg shnnk changed in a new easter egg shrink flation. some easter eggs are costing 50% more, whilst others are smaller and in the sport. >> this morning. sport. >> this morning . penalties great >> this morning. penalties great if you win. heartbreaking if you lose. wales will not be at the euros this summer after going out on spot kicks to poland last night. jude bellingham scored with the last kick of the game after most of wembley had headed home the rain. after england home in the rain. after england drew with belgium and drew two two with belgium and northern scotland drew two two with belgium and nchampden scotland drew two two with belgium and nchampden park scotland drew two two with belgium and nchampden park for scotland drew two two with belgium and nchampden park for sc(firstd at hampden park for the first time in years. time in 50 years. >> there we've got heavy rain and showers in the forecast today, but some sunshine to find out all the weather details coming up in the programme .

soon. >> well, very good morning to you. welcome to breakfast on this wednesday , the 27th of this wednesday, the 27th of march or tuned into breakfast with eamonn holmes and isabel webster. >> migration hitting the headunes >> migration hitting the headlines today. home office sources have churches run sources have said churches run the undermining the the risk of undermining the integrity of the asylum system. this is after it was revealed that the chemical attacker abdul ezedi , was allowed to stay in ezedi, was allowed to stay in britain by a judge who accepted he was a christian convert, despite concerns over him lying and lying quite a lot. >> yes, immigration files have been published now by the home office. they show how ezedi was granted asylum after his application was backed by a baptist church minister. and there were lots of concerns in those papers that have been released about his honesty, not least his previous accounts of his own religion. he was a shia then he became a sunni. his brother was at home by the brother was shot at home by the taliban. he was shot at taliban. then he was shot at a mosque. he'd suffered from

shrapnel. then a gp said that they weren't concerns, they weren't genuine concerns, and unable to and he was also unable to identify what the old testament was. he thought jesus appeared in and couldn't name any in it and couldn't name any hymns. but perhaps worst of all, he was a convicted sex offender and was on the sex offenders register for life. how on earth did this person remain in this country to commit a chemical attack ? attack? >> gb news viewer and contributor paula london was on the programme an hour ago. she joins us again. paula, i do have to say you were very critical about this whole situation. you're very angry about this whole situation and you're totally in tune with our viewers and this morning who and listeners this morning who just sort of feel this is a joke. what what is this system that these migrants can sort of you come to this country and it seems to be lawyers are saying to them, well, how can you stay? oh, sign up to be a christian. that would be a good idea. >> it'sjust that would be a good idea. >> it's just awful. >> it's just awful. >> it's just awful. >> i feel like when i was 12 years of age, someone tried to

grab me off my bike into a car. so i feel like this resonates for me. i know what it's like to be young girls scared, so i will always up for young girls always speak up for young girls and women and it's just heartbreaking what's happening and don't seem to and people just don't seem to care they just care more care and they just care more about us and say, these asylum seekers, and they care about british people and that will never sit right with me. i'm a true christian. i pray every day to god, and god has answered some of my prayers and helps me. so people use his name in so when people use his name in vain, that really upsets me as well. and i just don't know what's going to happen to this country things country at the moment if things are getting and worse, and are getting worse and worse, and i like what's going to i feel like what's going to happen, we're going to end up being sweden, where being like sweden, where the police on tv and say, police had to go on tv and say, i'm really sorry, ladies, we can no longer keep you safe. there's been attacks been so many sexual attacks and they've huge you're they've had a huge what you're talking want talking about. i don't want things to get as bad. >> what you're talking about is this guy getting around the system, do have to say, system, and i do have to say, and say this and i'm going to say this out loud, are obviously people loud, there are obviously people within or

within the immigration system or within the immigration system or within the immigration system or within the legal profession, lobbying of this, who lobbying on behalf of this, who are lying, cheating, are actually lying, cheating, making false claims here for things that just are not true . things that just are not true. and certainly if i was on a panel and certainly if i was on a panel, i could not care less what religion anyone was. i don't see what that has got to don't see what that has got to do with whether you would make a great british citizen or not. >> agreed. i think what's very important when people are going to france to get their asylum granted they're only 20% likely to get the right to remain using the same story that they'll use here. >> e- e about more e more likely >> they're about 60% more likely to asylum granted for to get their asylum granted for some reason, we've got a lot of human rights lawyers that care about money than safety in france. of the lawyers france. a lot of the lawyers aren't like that so much, because they've had way more terror attacks than had . terror attacks than we've had. and i don't want things to get as here, where some lawyers as bad here, where some lawyers change need change their tune. we need to act before things worse , act now before things get worse, because presumably falls because presumably france falls under of the under the jurisdiction of the echn under the jurisdiction of the echr, the european convention of human rights, which is what's cited the whole time here in this country.

>> can't rid of them >> we can't get rid of them because of this wretched echr. but sounds we have a but it sounds like we have a problem so that, know, problem so that, you know, should be levelled at the government and, you know, we spoke the minister just a few spoke to the minister just a few minutes said, don't minutes ago who said, don't worry, we're going to change the rules minute anyone rules any minute now. anyone with, of well, as soon with, any sort of well, as soon as they touch the shore, they'll be deported. the new plan. be deported. is the new plan. once gets past . do you think once it gets past. do you think that's work with with that's going to work with with the situation that we're the legal situation that we're facing, need of a facing, we need more of a backbone in this country. >> to be a >> we're supposed to be a sovereign country. our laws are supposed to be. you know, that's it. basically, we look at it. basically, if we look at france, if we look at france, sorry, if we look at poland, they're in the echr echr. just ignore the echr. they just ignore the rulings because care about rulings because they care about national security more. and if you look at france about two months ago, they decided to ignore echr ruling because they are supposed to be advisory and they deported someone because he was a national security threat in country. we're just not in this country. we're just not doing it. and i hope it doesn't happen. but i feel like something is going to something tragic is going to happen country before

happen in this country before people and i'll always happen in this country before peopleup and i'll always happen in this country before peopleup before and i'll always happen in this country before peopleup before this i'll always happen in this country before peopleup before this happensys happen in this country before peopleup before this happens to speak up before this happens to see can have change. we see if we can have change. we don't have to go with what the echr say. we can it. echr say. we can ignore it. >> people are very >> a lot of people are very anti—lawyer one, aiden anti—lawyer on this one, aiden saying we're talking about corrupt citizens making so corrupt citizens here making so much easy money on this one. valerie says, i would be interested to know how many asylum seekers would actually convert to christianity after after they've got their citizenship, after they've been given leave to remain. and that's an interesting point, isn't it ? isn't it? >> we've got to remember, you know , even m15 have admitted know, even m15 have admitted that some of these people arriving via dinghy are on our terror watch list. and let's also remember that 90% of islamic extremists, these people, they're devout muslims, they're not going to convert to christianity. hardly any . and if christianity. hardly any. and if anyone believes them, they're just living in cloud cuckoo land. there's no way. there's no way. >> they're a way. >> they're a final word >> they're just a final word from you, paula, because, paula, because said that because i know you said that you're christian. you pray you're a christian. you pray every and i was just every day. and i was just looking up what? the archbishop

of because, of canterbury. because, of course, baptist course, he's not a baptist who were involved in this case, but he top faith leaders the he and top faith leaders in the country a letter to the country wrote a letter to the times the times newspaper saying the illegal bill the illegal migration bill that the government forward government are pushing forward falls obligation falls short of our obligation towards most vulnerable . it towards the most vulnerable. it fails to seek to meet the basic test of an evidence based and workable policy, and we need an alternative approach that reflects our country's history, values and responsibilities . values and responsibilities. cities. so how do you balance that? because is there not a risk if you throw out all of these cases that actually really genuine asylum seekers could well sent back to countries well be sent back to countries where they could face persecution or worse? >> well, they could go back to france and not facing persecution so they're persecution there. so they're just making up all of these stories and we just need to wake up. feel sorry for a lot of up. i feel sorry for a lot of priests, a lot of great priests in this country, but they get a lot of pressure from bishops. that's problem. the that's the problem. it's the bishops. priests bishops. it's not the priests and local church. and the local church. >> paula, fascinating >> okay, paula, fascinating listening today . as listening to you today. as i say, you speak and represent so

many people out there. thank you for your time. thank you. you're welcome. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> now, more bad news for the prime minister a bit of a sinking ship happening for him. a double departure of ministers yesterday in quick succession, the forces minister, james the armed forces minister, james heappey, regular on this program and the higher education minister, robert halfon, is also very senior in a lot of the crossbench select committees announced that he's stepping down from the government, so this move has forced rishi sunak into a reshuffle. >> mini reshuffle on the day parliament breaks for the easter recess. so, does it end here? let's go to olivia utley. our political correspondent on this one. what do you think, olivia? doesit one. what do you think, olivia? does it end here? >> well, this is a really big headache for the prime minister. both robert halfon and heappey were very experienced ministers. they were well respected ministers. the shadow defence secretary actually praised the labour shadow defence secretary

actually praised his performance in the role as armed forces minister on his departure, which just goes to show how respected they were across the whole board. it seems as though both of these two ministers are choosing to stand down now because they are standing down as mps at the general election . as mps at the general election. why? probably because both of them would be likely to lose their seats at that election. and of course, they are not alone. more conservative mps are standing down in 2024 than at any time since 1997, before the blair landslide. i expect that this isn't the end of the ministerial resignations that we're going to see over the next few months. there are lots of conservative mps who are in much more precarious positions than either halfon or heappey, with very small majorities . indeed, very small majorities. indeed, even a number of cabinet ministers penny mordaunt , for ministers penny mordaunt, for example, looks set to lose her seat in portsmouth if the polls keep going as they are. i think

we can expect to see a whole slew of cabinet possibly resignations, but certainly resignations, but certainly resignations among the ministerial ranks before we actually get to the general election . rishi sunak would be election. rishi sunak would be very lucky to avoid more more days like yesterday. >> thank you very much indeed. we will leave it there, prince harry, just look at the front page of the sun today. he's making headlines there. he's been named in a us court documents relating to the rapper p diddy, whose real name is sean combs. >> the court documents filed in the us mention guests were drawn to combs alleged sex trafficking parties because of his so—called access to celebrities and international dignitary dignitaries, which included the likes of prince harry. >> let's go to royal and showbiz reporter kinsey schofield on this one. so harry's been named. what will this mean for him and his wife ? his wife? >> well, i have to be honest

with you. it looks like prince harry is being thrown under the bus here. and you know i am. i'm willing to criticise prince harry when it's appropriate. if you want to talk about his african parks i've got african parks charity. i've got all but in this particular all day. but in this particular case, seems the accuser case, it seems like the accuser here, who is a producer named rodney little rod jones, who filed this $30 million lawsuit in february , is trying to get in february, is trying to get attention by dropping some of these bigger names, like prince harry's, into this document nation, trying to say that prince harry gave p diddy credibility. now, the only time prince harry and p diddy are photographed together is in two thousand and seven at an event honounng thousand and seven at an event honouring princess diana. the last time i can find sean combs talking about prince harry is in 2011 during a grammy norton interview where he's joking and he clearly has no relationship with him. there's no proof that prince harry has nurtured any type of relationship with sean diddy combs, and as somebody that's worked for diddy , i can

that's worked for diddy, i can assure you that he doesn't need prince harry when it comes to, you know, any any sort of cool points. over the years, i've, i've never seen him have to name drop . he was always diddy. drop. he was always diddy. >> rewind a minute there . you >> rewind a minute there. you worked for him or with him. >> yeah i threw a party for him for ciroc vodka at and you know, l, for ciroc vodka at and you know, i, i never had any issues with him. i'm very lucky in that regard. i don't have anything negative to say about him. obviously, these accusations are appalling , but obviously, these accusations are appalling, but i'm a good girl, so he probably knew not to do anything like that around me, but you know, this is all over the news here. he is accused of sex trafficking in multiple sex assault lawsuits with raids on multiple houses on monday by homeland security, with them seizing electronics and interviewing for jane seizing electronics and interviewing forjane doe's and interviewing for jane doe's and one john doe , the new york one john doe, the new york prosecutors in connection with sex trafficking and a racketeering investigation so

similar to r kelly, and very serious allegations , it's serious allegations, it's interesting you were talking about the picture that prince harry was photographed next to, p diddy. i think prince william's also in that picture. and interesting that he's managed to completely avoid being mentioned in all this just as well , being mentioned in all this just as well, given being mentioned in all this just as well , given what's being mentioned in all this just as well, given what's going on for him at the moment. but i wonder why, this particular claimant has gone after or named decided to pick on on prince william , prince harry. william, prince harry. >> sorry, i think i think it's because prince harry and meghan markle are headline grabbers all over the world, and it was in its, you know, you just it's guaranteed press. it's going to guaranteed press. it's going to guarantee that you end up on the cover of the sun. and i think ultimately this accuser is looking for a payday . and i'm looking for a payday. and i'm not saying that p diddy is innocent. i don't know what the truth is here, but i can tell you based on past experience with his ex—girlfriend cassie , with his ex—girlfriend cassie, he settled that. i believe it

was just one day after that court filing when it came to a 2017 chef that alleged that p diddy was inappropriate with her, he settled that two years later. so he has a history of settling these cases, you know, blow this up and you could potentially get a great payday. so of course, you're going to want this splashed across all the newspapers. and prince harry is a great way to do that. >> well, i think it's great talking to you, having worked with him, having known, knowing how pronounced i how his name is pronounced as i was this morning was pronouncing it this morning and told i was wrong, and it's speu and told i was wrong, and it's spelt combs as in a comb through your hair. it should be pronounced if it was an island, it would be combs. but here the young folk say what? >> isabel? comb? >> isabel? comb? >> so i checked with the youngsters in the newsroom. they were like combs. but maybe were all like combs. but maybe they're young really know they're too young to really know about as well. about diddy as well. >> stupid you'd stupid, >> stupid? you'd be stupid, i say. young be. say. young could be. >> also, kinsey , how good you >> also, kinsey, how good of you to the memo that we're all to get the memo that we're all in purple today.

>> i did, i was happy when i when i logged on to and that when i logged on to and saw that i did get that memo. thank i did i did get that memo. thank you very much. i did i did get that memo. thank youwell much. i did i did get that memo. thank youwell purple is an easter >> well purple is an easter colour for lent and she is a good girl. >> so she knows these things and therefore you know it. >> good. kinsey, good >> yeah, very good. kinsey, good talking very talking to you. thank you very much indeed. you , right. much indeed. thank you, right. still of reaction coming in still lots of reaction coming in about migration and what people have to become have got to do to become resident in this country, let's get the weather update with the time. 7:16. greg. good morning . time. 7:16. greg. good morning. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather. low pressure continues to dominate the weather pattern through today. further spells of rain, heavy showers , blustery winds heavy showers, blustery winds over the next few days as well. so looking at the bigger picture, we do have rain across northern and western parts of the uk this morning. some localised possible

the uk this morning. some localisparts possible the uk this morning. some localisparts of possible the uk this morning. some localisparts of northernile across parts of northern ireland, particular as the ireland, in particular as the heavy rain from overnight slowly clears. some spells clears. some bright spells developing as we move into the afternoon. but this trigger afternoon. but this will trigger some thundery with some heavy thundery showers with some heavy thundery showers with some with brisk some hail possible with brisk southerly winds. it will feel quite chilly in the south and the west here. highs of 11 or 12 celsius in any brighter skies we could see highs of 13 or 14 in a few sheltered spots into the evening time. further heavy showers pushed northwards across the country, these merging into some longer spells of rain and then during the early hours, this batch of wet weather moves into central southern parts of england could be heavy england and wales could be heavy at , so cloudy night here at times, so a cloudy night here but clearing skies across northern ireland and scotland. a touch frost and some fog here touch of frost and some fog here as temperatures fall close to, if not below freezing. so north—south split to start thursday. and windy weather thursday. wet and windy weather across wales and across parts of wales and england. brighter skies northern ireland and then ireland and scotland and then these weather systems slowly push northwards as go through push northwards as we go through the day. further wet and windy weather pushing central

weather pushing into central southern england. gales along some at times to some southern coasts at times to the best of the dry weather, holding on across northern scotland and for most temperatures around 13. temperatures around 12 or 13. see you soon. >> and that warm feeling inside from boxt boiler as sponsors of weather on gb news. >> i'm loving your opinions on migration today. you see, the thing is that most of us see things very simple. yes no. right? wrong. black, white, grey, whatever . somewhere in grey, whatever. somewhere in between. and a lot of you are just saying , look, what are we just saying, look, what are we debating this for? it's simple. this is simon. just passed a law to either reduce or remove the right of appeal. if you enter illegally and force it through parliament. now, i'm not saying that's right . parliament. now, i'm not saying that's right. i'm just saying that's right. i'm just saying that i think people find it really difficult to understand the political shenanigans that goes on and why things i often think, you know, politicians get a bad name, but i don't think

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i >> -- >> we're talking all things vapes. now. new research has found that giving free vapes to smokers in a&e has actually helped. almost 1 in 4 quit smoking entirely after six months. >> okay, so what should the nhs do? should the nhs provide free vapes? the shops are everywhere in every town high street. they just pop up . incredible. what do just pop up. incredible. what do you think of this at home? please let us know this morning. do you know how to get in touch? and earlier we took to the high street to see what people thought . and here's what they said. >> now. not for free. ijust think that's a bit a bit silly. in all honesty. i think you're a

grown adult. you make your own choices anyway . do you know what choices anyway. do you know what i mean? i understand people go through what they go through, but at the end of the day, it's a purchase. so if you're a grown adult, that's your responsibility. >> so free. not necessarily i for people who are completely attached to them. yes it will definitely cut down the majority of people who are smoking. yes, because i'm a smoker myself and i do vape. but when people are around you and they're smoking, it's like , what's the point of it's like, what's the point of vaping? because there's one person standing next to me with a cigarette in their hand. >> i wouldn't give anybody a smoking anything. so making it simple, too simple for people. i mean, we smoked, obviously we're at that where people smoked at that age where people smoked and given it up now 20 and we've given it up now 20 years. it wasn't easy, but we done it. what about booze? let's have some free booze. you know. >> well, we were, just looking at the high street there, and there was a timpsons in the

background, and there's a man that needs highlighted who gives, you know, jobs and careers to people who have served prison sentences, gets them rehabilitate and very charitable man. very good. the way he runs his business, he gives so much money to charity. but i just thought i'd throw that in. but anyway, it's now vapes everywhere. >> let's get the views of the director of research for the adam smith institute, max marlowe professor of marlowe and professor of vascular surgery, sherif vascular surgery, doctor sherif sultan . i to start with sultan. and i want to start with you, professor, because this is a medical look 1 you, professor, because this is a medical look1 in you, professor, because this is a medical look 1 in 4 a medical matter. look 1 in 4 people have been able quit people have been able to quit smoking result of this smoking as a result of this scheme. that's got to be a good thing. are vapes actually thing. but are vapes actually good if they're not, good for us? and if they're not, what a&e doing handing what nerfs a&e doing handing them ? them out? >> promotion of vaping as a harm reduction tool is totally misguided. we are witnessing a troubling conversion of a public health objectives and corporate interests smoke free england by 2030 have been done through consultation with a couple of,

big firms . and they said that big firms. and they said that they need england to be smoke free by 2030. but if you look at the british american tobacco or philip morris international strategy, we have the same exactly. by 2030, they need to stop , smokers from using stop, smokers from using cigarettes and use their new, e—cigarettes so you could see there is conversion between pubuc there is conversion between public health objective and corporate interests subsiding vaping products with tax payer money is something never happened. and if it happened, you have a problem because you might have a near general election and there's some money coming somewhere. it doesn't make sense, right? it doesn't make sense, right? it doesn't make sense. doctor just before make sense. doctorjust before we bring in max, can you tell me i'm lucky enough? >> i'm blessed that i'm not a smoker. isabel's not a smoker ehhen smoker. isabel's not a smoker either. and i don't feel any desire to have a vape or to have nicotine or whatever. thankfully. thank god, but what what comes first? do these

things. but having nicotine or having a vape, does it make us want more ? or are we born with a want more? or are we born with a desire for these things? >> that's a very good question . >> that's a very good question. and to be very clear that if you start vaping, it's a full fledged way for full smoking. it's not going to stop you from smoking . it'sjust a it's not going to stop you from smoking . it's just a vape. smoking. it's just a vape. you're going to smoke. everybody knows that the problem is that the lobbying and trying to show that vaping is much more safer doesn't have any scientific evidence. the world health organisation said. it's not true. and it's a trap. this is from the director general, and we said that it's a body of lies. what they're saying about vaping, that's the only big international institute that haven't been penetrated by the lobbying group about vaping. and that's why the lack of giant tobacco are trying to target the w.h.o.

tobacco are trying to target the who. and pull it down. we are witnessing a criminal act by trying to provide vaping in accident emergency for patients coming in with a problem , they coming in with a problem, they will block the lung. we have no idea what's the long term effect. we know that there is 515 times more incidence of cancer because of the formaldehyde in vaping. i know that it's less 7000 product than smoking, but still , we don't smoking, but still, we don't have long term effect and we know about the formaldehyde and the vitamin e and all the other stuff . so do not tell me that stuff. so do not tell me that it's safe. it is not safe . and it's safe. it is not safe. and we have to tell people it's not safe. >> well, that's putting max marlowe into fits of giggles there. >> yeah, max. i mean, look, it was on the front of the times last week. we spoke to government minister about the concerns vapes that concerns about these vapes that have these flavours in have got all these flavours in and being used by children, and are being used by children, and are being used by children, and don't know the impact on and we don't know the impact on their lungs. i mean, their growing lungs. i mean, just is just replacing something that is unknown in terms of its harms, fully understood with something

that we know the harms with, is surely not a good health policy. >> well, sorry, i seem to >> well, i'm sorry, i seem to have fallen through , alice? have fallen through, alice? alice's looking glass here, look, let's see. and let's get the facts right on this. who is supporting the evidence on the safety of vapes and health organisation? >> yes , the largest >> apparently, yes, the largest funder for the fctc is china tobacco. so the largest tobacco company in the world, the world health organisation say that these vapes are not good for us. yes, but chris whitty, action on smoking health, king's college london the department for health and social care , you know the and social care, you know the european commission, that's not sorry . sorry. >> i've seen, i've seen professor chris whitty talking about the concerns of not knowing the long term impact of vapes on, on young children. he's i've seen him say those words himself. yes, indeed. >> and you know, he's right about with children and it is illegal for children to vape. they should not be vaping, you know, but it is he is he is cmo of a department which is pulling ahead with a policy which is

world leading. let's see. smoking kills 60,000 people a yeah smoking kills 60,000 people a year. vaping does not. there is no clinical evidence whatsoever to suppose okay. it is a to suppose that, okay. it is a it a tide and it is a tried it is a tide and it is a tried and tested way of getting people off smoking. that is the most important thing. and what we're heanng important thing. and what we're hearing from professor charleton is, you know , it has no peer is, you know, it has no peer reviewed real evidence in the wider medical community, and as he should know , max, i'm sure he should know, max, i'm sure with cigarettes started out in your big hollywood stars , your big hollywood stars, promoting it and whatever, saying how healthy it was and how great it was. >> i'm sure as we know , it took >> i'm sure as we know, it took years. it took 30 odd years or so before anybody started linking the dots together. are we not talking about the same conditions for vapes ? conditions for vapes? >> i mean, maybe we are. i can't tell the future. however what we do know now is that vaping is much safer than smoking and the big public health enemy. it takes me back to my i mean, you basically agreed with my initial question, which was, is it really right to roll out a

health policy that is replacing something which is known to be harmful, which something is unknown in, in terms of its harmfulness? >> surely you should >> i mean, surely you should only rolling something >> i mean, surely you should only known; something >> i mean, surely you should only known; be something >> i mean, surely you should only known; be safe,:hing >> i mean, surely you should only known; be safe, totg that is known to be safe, to replace something that known replace something that is known to be harmful? >> well, we've had e—cigarettes for years you for over 15 years now, and, you know, term. know, that's quite long. term. we health outcomes of we know the health outcomes of these it it is much, much safer these. it it is much, much safer than smoking. so you can either do a cost benefit analysis, which really here. which is really important here. and this a lot and we do this a lot in economics, wherein can say economics, wherein we can say the people vaping in the the cost of people vaping in the immediate and long term is low. and, know, and the benefit and, you know, and the benefit is high and that's inverse is very high and that's inverse for you know, let's for smoking. so, you know, let's do cost benefit on that. and do the cost benefit on that. and we our public health we have our public health outcome it's world leading. outcome and it's world leading. it's praised, know it's been praised, you know across board. and i really across the board. and i really and you know, you know the professor can shake his head. i've citation of his i've seen no citation of his work anywhere. want, work anywhere. i don't want, especially if you are talking about doesn't exist . about stuff that doesn't exist. >> you are working in an organisation that's taking money from the tobacco industry. you are consultancy report are writing a consultancy report and lobbying tactics from your

organisation . so how could you organisation. so how could you tell me that you're the least transparent and organisation in the whole uk? as per democracy online? so what are you talking about? do you tell me that i'm wrong? i'm telling you what the w.h.o, w.h.o. is wrong? i'm telling you what the who, who. is telling you. w.h.o, who. is telling you. the truth even is being paid. she's telling you it's bad. the fda have already totally cancelled anything regarding e—cigarettes. so i don't understand . the only country on understand. the only country on earth decided to go with, this on a taxpayer money. it doesn't make sense . make sense. >> gentlemen, we got to leave it there. >> thank you both very, very much indeed. our viewers and listeners will get in touch and tell us what they think. is it a good thing, latest research, wherever that is, saying that 1 in 4 people are, come off smoking because of, using vapes, do you believe it? do you not believe it. is it too early to judge that sort of thing? let us know. we'll go paul coyte. he's got the sport. it's about kids. and it's about mrs. he'll tell

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we got paul. he's got the sport. and, football last night. heartbreak for wales. >> yeah, it is heartbreak. is it going out on penalties against poland? it was never going to be an easy game. it really wasn't, but it was the play off for the euros. and whoever won was winner takes all. whoever won the game will be off to the euros in the summer, nil nil, poland, i mean, poland didn't even a shot on goal. even get a shot on goal. >> to be fair, even with the whatsisname play, lewandowski and lewandowski was playing. >> mean they wales >> yeah i mean they wales defended well you know they kept him poland seemed to him back. but poland seemed to have of the possession. but have most of the possession. but i mean that doesn't mean anything it. if you're anything does it. if you're not scoring thing. scoring doesn't mean a thing. >> is a basically >> well this is a basically a cup game isn't yeah. cup game isn't it. yeah. >> that's it. yeah >> that's it. yeah >> it didn't cup game. >> it didn't cup game. >> no replay went to penalties a heartbreaking heartbreak for.

and dan james that and then it was dan james that missed final penalty. and missed the final penalty. and that so the well they that was it. so the well they were out. >> then you say that was it. at hampden park scotland who had a little bit of a wobble recently . little bit of a wobble recently. and you think they have a good chance going back on. of chance of going back on. of course my team northern ireland, great for them. one nil. great win for them. one nil. >> yeah i mean scotland they were doing great qualifying for the euros and i think it's wobbly phase. they haven't won in seven. yeah. now and going towards the euros and you're thinking you're a little worried for them. but northern ireland i mean let's give northern ireland credit first time. credit for first time. absolutely 50 years. it was may 1974 time. nor that you 1974 the last time. nor that you were a very, very small boy. >> boy wasn't. i was, >> very small boy wasn't. i was, i was 14 or 15 at the time. okay. i mean, this is when football was so magic to me. if you go back to the 70s. so who was playing? >> you tell me. scotland scotland. >> derek dougan for northern ireland. >> no, duggan wasn't playing . >> no, duggan wasn't playing. no. duggan. dave clements dave clements was playing. >> yeah. pat jennings big pat

was in goal. was george on no george wasn't playing. >> it was 74. he'd probably retired by then, hadn't he? or one of the many retirements on a night out that were. yeah. well that never stopped him did it? no, one nil. and no, but it was one nil. and playing for brian hamilton was playing for brian hamilton was playing mcilroy. it was. >> i've got to know sammy very, very well. lovely man. lovely man not only played for man who not only played for northern ireland managed northern ireland but managed them manchester as well. >> can't go wrong with you can he, playing >> can't go wrong with you can he, scotland playing >> can't go wrong with you can he, scotland just playing >> can't go wrong with you can he, scotland just to playing >> can't go wrong with you can he, scotland just to showilayinga for scotland just to show what a great result was, because great result this was, because if you go back to the 70s, they would have been good. i mean, they would been good they would have been good because no foreign because there were no foreign players were allowed to play in this you're either this country. so you're either all home country. so all from the home country. so everybody playing was dalglish playing. dalglish and law were playing. dalglish and law were playing front together. playing up front together. >> amazing. >> that's amazing. two generations. >> that's amazing. two gene know. ., >> that's amazing. two gene know. yeah tommy tommy >> i know. yeah tommy tommy hutchinson remember tommy hutchinson remember tommy hutchinson moustache . hutchinson with the moustache. billy captain. billy bremner was the captain. what what willie what a player. what a willie donachie . willie to donachie. willie donachie to play donachie. willie donachie to play play for play for man city play for manchester city , old manchester manchester city, old manchester city martin buchan city captain martin buchan was playing well. so one nil it playing as well. so one nil it was to northern ireland was

buchan the captain? no. billy bremner have been the bremner would have been the captain. the captain. so captain. was the captain. so buchan would have been a young buck a young buchan or a buck or a young buchan or a young buchan in those days. >> memories there, mister. >> great memories there, mister. great memories. >> andy murray oh >> absolutely. andy murray oh no. to mention no. i got to mention england have to mention england because obviously belgium obviously they played belgium friendly. it obviously they played belgium friertwo it obviously they played belgium friertwo two, it obviously they played belgium friertwo two, two it obviously they played belgium friertwo two, two one it obviously they played belgium friertwo two, two one down, some was two two, two one down, some pretty bad mistakes i've got to tell you england at the back . tell you by england at the back. it's up front. probably arguably the frontline on that. the best frontline on that. there's going to be almost in the world. i mean they're so good but at the back it was a little wobbly. yeah. mistake by the keeper. and then there was defensive errors, but , jude defensive errors, but, jude bellingham scored in lit with literally the last kick of the match to make it two two. >> okay. looking ahead to sport this weekend. and it's the oxford—cambridge boat race. yes. >> do we think do we class this as good sport ? what do you as good sport? what do you think? where do you stand with the boat races? >> i've never stood and watched it live. but do do i? >> do you care? that's what i'm

saying. do we care about the boat race? >> you rarely see someone slipping behind and then regaining, you know, up regaining, you know, back up into i think once you into the lead. i think once you get the lead, you stay there. get in the lead, you stay there. really? but, you know, it's tradition. it is tradition. it's it is traditional. yeah. i don't know. it a very expensive it must be a very expensive thing to, screen because you're going have so many going to have to have so many cameras along that river. going to have to have so many can four along that river. going to have to have so many can four and along that river. going to have to have so many can four and aalong that river. going to have to have so many canfour and a half| that river. going to have to have so many canfour and a half miles'iver. going to have to have so many canfour and a half miles around >> four and a half miles around the river. yeah. so i mean, i've seen it a few times off go, though. do go fast. though. they really do go fast. but whether the interest but it's whether the interest is still there. more still there. obviously more people are interested. eight years we're back 100 years ago we're going back 100 years ago we're going back 100 years then. was years because of then. it was the tv. but there the only sport on tv. but there is now. hundred years is problems now. hundred years ago there's no used to watch ago there's no tv used to watch tv back in the didn't they? tv back in the day, didn't they? where logie baird? where? where was logie baird? where? where was logie baird? where? where that? so anyway, it where was that? so anyway, it goes race goes back goes back. the race goes back over 100 years, but obviously televised for a little less than that. there are 2869 e coli that. but there are 2869 e coli per 100ml of water eamonn in the thames. 1000 is a safe reading , thames. 1000 is a safe reading, but quite frankly, if you do win

the boat race and you fall in the boat race and you fall in the water, yeah, you don't want to be jumping in the water in that tense water in a salt brine. >> isabel, you live near the thames or you did. and, did you ever go and see it? yeah we would watch it on the tv, and then when it got to our stretch of the thames, we'd run down because otherwise you'd be standing. >> you don't see an awful lot because they go past quickly. because they go past so quickly. but it's a real sport but you ask if it's a real sport and mean, certainly if you try and i mean, certainly if you try to go watch, it is thick to go and watch, it is thick with the side of thames, is with the side of the thames, is deep trying watch deep with people trying to watch and athleticism. lot of and the athleticism. a lot of these guys up at six foot five, six. i did rowing at school, but i wasn't any. i wasn't fit enough. you have be so enough. but you have to be so fit that would get the fit that they would get the balance right. >> it's a little more right on the balance bit, the the balance bit, but the physicality, are physicality, i mean, these are big, strong people. >> did a boat race, >> if they did a boat race, pedalo thing, me and eamonn may be get involved. you be able to get involved. you know, all the powers in the thighs racing. you know, they maybe go, but maybe we'd have a go, but i don't about you one. yeah, don't know about you one. yeah, but think don't know? but do you think i don't know? i know it's bad, but let's let's

be here. probably be honest here. it's probably the elephant the room when it the elephant in the room when it comes boat a lot of comes to the boat race. a lot of people only want to watch it because to if they because just to see if they sink, you know? no. >> bad? >> is that bad? >> is that bad? >> no. >> no. >> when 5mm m into each >> it's when they bump into each other i have no idea. other times who i have no idea. i cambridge, that i think cambridge, i think that you've got choice of two. you've got a choice of two. >> going for cambridge. >> i'm going for cambridge. >> i'm going for cambridge. >> i'll go for oxford. >> i think i'll go for oxford. >> i think i'll go for oxford. >> okay. go. >> okay. there you go. >> okay. there you go. >> we'll look. but it is >> we'll have a look. but it is on but they're saying on saturday. but they're saying they the water they mustn't jump in the water because they mustn't jump in the water becatspecial stations. have special cleaning stations. >> thank have special cleaning stations. >> very thank have special cleaning stations. >> very much thank have special cleaning stations. >> very much indeed. thank you very much indeed. >> in thames.

we have the former liberal democrat minister, norman baker. >> that's not what he's known for . for. >> the medical doctor renee hoenderkamp . hoenderkamp. >> you're an expert on trains. you know so much about so many things. and the good, the good lady doctor . and you're a gp. lady doctor. and you're a gp. and one of the stories we want to talk about. renee is the nhs. and this is reported in the

times in the telegraph and the front of a good few pages . what front of a good few pages. what are they saying? >> they're saying that faith in the nhs has dropped to an all time low, that only 1 in 4 people still actually have trust in it, and i'm actually surprised it's that high, to be honest with you. i really am , so honest with you. i really am, so only 24% people are now only 24% of people are now satisfied with the nhs, and i'm staggered that they could find that many people because i see on to day basis that on a day to day basis that nothing working . the gaps are nothing is working. the gaps are huge. just falling huge. patients are just falling through them and not being able to tell you one of the reasons it's working . it's not working. >> so a gp? yeah i >> right. so you're a gp? yeah i am, at moment people are am, and at the moment people are coming what? coming to see you. about what? >> bulk of my list at >> so the bulk of my list at the moment be and colds. right. >> why is that even allowed? i agree . oh good. that's good. so agree. oh good. that's good. so i was going to be i thought it was going to be controversial there. i think if you've cold you go to you've a cough or cold you go to your . that's it. you your chemist. that's it. you basically your chemist. your chemist. that's it. you basishouldn't your chemist. your chemist. that's it. you basishouldn't be)ur chemist. your chemist. that's it. you basishouldn't be allowed ist. your chemist. that's it. you basishouldn't be allowed ist see you shouldn't be allowed to see the doctor with a cough cold. the doctor with a cough or cold. >> agree with that as >> well, i agree with that as well. there's more well. but there's more than that. you look the fact

that. if you look at the fact that. if you look at the fact that social services element that the social services element of been of our society has been neglected, a whole lot neglected, there's a whole lot of on the nhs of pressure put on the nhs and people should be dealt with people who should be dealt with in different doesn't in different way. that doesn't help. have just help. i do think they have just been dealing with been very good at dealing with preventative medicine over the years, deal with years, and they deal with symptoms rather than causes. that's problem . and that's also a problem. and sometimes that the sometimes you argue that the drug too much drug companies got too much influence on the which influence on the nhs, which doesn't meaning doesn't help either. meaning what? meaning that they go what? well meaning that they go in and they want to in there and they want you to have pharmaceutical solution have a pharmaceutical solution to everything when it's not necessarily answer. necessarily the best answer. >> what do they >> but i think, what do they mean was a report mean by i mean this was a report done king's and the done by the king's fund and the nuffield they said nuffield trust, and they said that were using this that the public were using this phrase. were phrase. they felt they were in a toxic relationship . i actually toxic relationship. i actually wrote with nhs, wrote that down with the nhs, and implies mean, and that implies what i mean, that read that that the nhs is what i read that as, that they felt that they they had to use it. >> it was there , but it was it >> it was there, but it was it was abusive in a way and in a way is in that, you know, way it is in that, you know, people struggle people really struggle to navigate because says navigate it now because says they just can't get through to anybody. can't get their anybody. they can't get their appointments, forever . appointments, they wait forever. even minister that we even this, the minister that we had said waiting list had on who said the waiting list had on who said the waiting list had down. nonsense

had come down. that's a nonsense to means is they've to what that means is they've moved people off of that initial waiting onto the second waiting list. onto the second one, i think going to one, but i think going back to your point , eamonn about coughs your point, eamonn about coughs and colds, we are and colds, i think we are breeding now who breeding a society now who cannot deal with a second of discomfort, and they expect there to be a magic bullet in there to be a magic bullet in the form of a pill. they normally think that's antibiotics. i now don't do antibiotics. i now don't do antibiotics for colds where people demanding it. i send people are demanding it. i send them for a chest x ray instead, which arguably costs the nhs more. but since november i've only two people that only had two people that actually had an infection that needed antibiotics. it is a cold and it will get better, but people expect it to get better in three days. it's going to take two weeks and the cough that get can for last 6 to that you get can for last 6 to 8 weeks, right? we need to re—educate about re—educate people about self—care. >> em- 3 adults? because, >> and is that adults? because, i i think if you've i mean, i think if you've got a kids with coughs you kids with coughs and colds, you i view, i from my point of view, i always think, is strep a or always think, is it strep a or something going on? or, something hideous going on? or, you tonsillitis you know, tonsillitis needs treatment doesn't it? well, it doesn't really. >> no. the evidence says that >> no. so the evidence says that antibiotics tonsillitis will antibiotics for tonsillitis will reduce symptoms by 9 to 16

reduce the symptoms by 9 to 16 hours. it will get better on its own in most cases. >> you see, norman just raised something there which i hadn't thought of. >> and it is quite scary that you get, pharmaceutical reps or whatever coming in saying whatever coming in and saying drug reps, and they're saying, oh, use this one. this is great for cost schools. get this, whatever. >> yeah. or for anything. as a matter of fact, i mean , i have matter of fact, i mean, i have to tell you, i acupuncture to tell you, i use acupuncture every then, i find every now and then, and i find acupuncture and acupuncture extremely useful and non—invasive. and i'd much rather that, use something rather do that, use something like acupuncture. and i would use a don't know . use a drug i don't know. >> does hurt. >> does not hurt. >> does not hurt. >> you doesn't hurt at all. >> well, it hurts me tremendously. >> do you think about acupuncture? >> i think really >> i think it's really interesting. know it interesting. i don't know how it works, but for some works, but i think for some things really work and things it really does work and i'm it. you know, even i'm all for it. you know, even placebo, works, doesn't placebo, if it works, it doesn't matter. know? matter. you know? >> tell you what >> right. i'll tell you what else and our else doesn't work. and our our rivers and the sewage them. rivers and the sewage in them. and this is a scandal. i just think people should be locked up for this . and people who run for this. and people who run these utility companies, and they do it for money and they don't care about what happens to

the environment. it's absolutely ghastly. ghastly >> well, you said what i wanted to say, eamonn in many words, because we've got more than 4,000,000 hours, 4,000,000 hours of raw sewage discharged into our rivers and seas last year. it's a record . it's a worst it's a record. it's a worst record ever. worst year ever for these sorts of discharges . at these sorts of discharges. at these sorts of discharges. at the same time, you've got thames water suggested. the answer to this is put bills up 40. get people to pay for this. and ofwat apparently might go along with this . and thames water of with this. and thames water of course has also had a record of giving shareholders more money in order to keep them on board. >> and you hear that the boat race weekend, you're race this weekend, you're getting levels getting these dangerous levels of in the capital's river. >> look, the bottom line is this this water industry should never have privatised because if have been privatised because if you give an absolute monopoly on a key public service, so nationalise it again, you think, oh, they couldn't do that , they oh, they couldn't do that, they wouldn't be able to nationalise. well, they have to because well, they may have to because

thames back to thames water is back to go bankrupt. they to do bankrupt. so they may have to do that, get 25 years notice. >> if you read nationalised , if >> if you read nationalised, if they go bankrupt, they can't they go bankrupt, they can't they anything about it. they can't do anything about it. >> to deal it . >> they'll have to deal with it. but look, i mean over the last 30, been 30, 40 years since it's been private, happened, private, what's happened, they've giving money they've prioritised giving money to directors. they've to their directors. they've prioritised to the prioritised giving money to the shareholders . they've not shareholders. they've not invested should shareholders. they've not invesinvested should shareholders. they've not invesinvested in. should shareholders. they've not invesinvested in. that'siould shareholders. they've not invesinvested in. that's the! have invested in. that's the record water industry. have invested in. that's the rec well, i think that's a really interesting because the interesting point, because the headunes headlines in the paper today suggest happened suggest that this has happened because of global warming and hot weather, and that's actually not they're not what they're saying. they're saying think it's saying that they think it's because money has because not enough money has gone tanks. gone into building storm tanks. and other infrastructure to avoid things. we've avoid these things. but we've been masses of money to been given masses of money to the shareholders and the people running totally . running it totally. >> and it's absolute disgrace. but, you know, the really depressing thing about this is i don't what the don't know what the environmental agency does and the agency, but the environmental agency, but they don't seem to have any teeth. there seem to teeth. and there doesn't seem to be any. will a lot of people tut and ifs be any. will a lot of people tut and it's terrible , and say, oh, it's bad, terrible, terrible this? >> say they're a middle >> they say they're in a middle of investigation , the of a criminal investigation, the environment agency into

potentially illegal discharges. but the environment agency has been cut significantly in terms of its capacity. it's got far fewer people than it used to have 15 years ago. they can't do as they should do. as much as they should do. >> right. >> right. >> let's talk about prince harry i yesterday the headline and i saw yesterday the headline and all of this and involved some all of this and involved in some sex trafficking case. and my heart and i thought oh. but heart sank and i thought oh. but actually we've decided is a actually this we've decided is a non story. >> w- w— >> it's a non story. i mean essentially went to parties essentially he went to parties that hosted p used that p diddy hosted p diddy used his name to say look prince harry is coming. come to my party. i mean all of us who have worked in this industry have probably been to a party where there have been unsavoury people and our fault and we and it isn't our fault and we haven't done anything so haven't done anything wrong. so i know, i have a i think it's, you know, i have a lot bad things to say about lot of bad things to say about harry, this occasion, harry, but on this occasion, i think a non story. think this is a non story. >> an interesting story. >> here's an interesting story. the make, wealthier the bbc could make, wealthier people pay more for the licence fee . fee. >> well, it's a question of whether you believe in a flat tax effectively or whether you believe in a graduated tax, and

you that people who are you believe that people who are best able to bear the burden should more . that's the should pay more. that's the issue that, tim davie, the director has raised , director general, has raised, amongst other things, he also raised the fact raised the issue of the fact that has , at a third of that the bbc has, at a third of its income, removed in last its income, removed in the last 15 which i don't think is 15 years, which i don't think is very helpful, the shoot of a third of its removed third of its services removed and there to do and it should be there to do things that it really things that that it really should be there for, which is like journalism, know, like local journalism, you know, local news. >> yes. >> yes. >> they've cut radio >> they've cut local radio dramatically, is dramatically, which i think is a wrong answer. you know, if we're going to talk british soft going to talk about british soft power, what does, which power, what the bbc does, which has value abroad, has been has got a value abroad, has been to represent britain and they've been cut back on bbc world, they've merged with bbc world service it's not service in a way it's not a healthy organisation. no. >> norman and renee, we'll have more from them just after archewell state. for now, here's greg weather. greg with the weather. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news news. >> hello there. welcome to your

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headunes headlines this morning. christianity, conversion criticism. the home office accuses the church of undermining the asylum system . undermining the asylum system. >> that's after the clapham chemical attacker was allowed to remain in britain, despite lying and failing a christianity test. earlier. we spoke to a government minister about it. >> we can't have is a system dnven >> we can't have is a system driven by credulous clerics and lefty lawyers, which is precisely this government is precisely why this government is taking forward legislation that will ensure that people like ezedi should never be in this country in the first place. >> a double departure for rishi sunak.the >> a double departure for rishi sunak. the exit of two more tory ministers forces the prime minister into a mini reshuffle just before easter. >> the duke of sussex . is >> the duke of sussex. is dragged into the diddy lawsuit. prince harry has been named in the rap star's legal proceedings, alleging that sean diddy used his name to diddy combs used his name to give sex trafficking legitimacy. >> football , wales

legitimacy. >> football, wales failed to >> in football, wales failed to secure a place at euro 2024 after losing their play off against poland in a heartbreaking penalty shootout. more on that shortly. >> and as hospitals give free vapes in a bid to help thousands quit smoking, we've vapes in a bid to help thousands quit smoking , we've been vapes in a bid to help thousands quit smoking, we've been asking whether or not they should be provided free to smokers on the nhs . nhs. >> and are you being short changed in a new easter egg? shrinkflation? some easter eggs are costing 50% more this year, while others are smaller. tell us about it . us about it. >> and in sport. so there'll be no welcome in the hillsides and no welcome in the hillsides and no welcome in the hillsides and no welcome in the valleys. as wales , i nearly sang it as wales, i nearly sang it as poleaxed on penalties. young kobe menos probably played his way into the england euro squad as they draw with belgium , and as they draw with belgium, and a top golfer chugs beer at a top ice hockey event. >> there we've got heavy rain and showers in the forecast today, but some sunshine to find out all the weather details coming up in the programme .

soon. >> okay. big talking point for us this morning. besides easter eggs and shrinkflation. i remember easter eggs used to be so thick you would break your teeth on them. or maybe i was so young that my teeth were falling out anyway at that stage. but i mean, things like, you know, i used to remember getting cadbury's dairy milk or what was the other brand, dairy box. there was another one and the chocolate was so thick. mars bar stuff you couldn't eat. it was absolutely so thick boom, your teeth would break on it. gone are the days though, with shrinkflation and with that and just chocolate bars getting thinner and thinner. >> we are having a big discussion as well. this morning about asylum seekers, specifically chemical specifically this chemical attacker who was a convicted sex offender. we can speak to the labour shadow minister in all of this. speaking to jim mcmahon,

labour's shadow local government minister, to get his take in all of this, is this a failing of the asylum system of the church of the echr? what would labour have done differently ? have done differently? >> well, the fact is that the asylum system is in absolute chaos. we're seeing too many people who are on the backlog list for their asylum applications to be processed. we have seen the sheer number of people who are on that list being distributed around communities in temporary accommodation, that's accommodation, in hotels. that's causing terms of causing a huge issue in terms of community and also community cohesion and also local and frankly , local economies. and frankly, all of that as a result of a government that's completely lost control of our asylum system. >> right. so what would you do to make sure that this wouldn't happen again? because we know you are voting against the legislation is legislation the government is bringing would mean bringing in, which would mean instant deportation for anyone crossing channel illegally . crossing the channel illegally. how can you reassure our viewers this morning that there wouldn't be any more abdullah zaydis under a labour government? >> most important >> well, the most important thing is you have a robust

thing is that you have a robust system in place actually system in place to actually administer application that administer the application that are if you have are coming in. if you have a system that's completely overwhelmed over overwhelmed, where you have over 100,000 the backlog 100,000 people on the backlog waiting and the only thing waiting list and the only thing that can is to try and that you can do is to try and skim through them, to try and reduce down for political reduce it down for political reasons. need do is reasons. what we need to do is to have a proper system in place of reviewing applications, to have a proper system in place of rev sure g applications, to have a proper system in place of rev sure g they're ations, to have a proper system in place of rev sure g they're bona;, to have a proper system in place of re'ande g they're bona;, to have a proper system in place of re'and make they're bona;, to have a proper system in place of re'and make sure�*re bona;, to have a proper system in place of re'and make sure that)na;, to have a proper system in place of re'and make sure that those fide, and make sure that those who seeking asylum are who are seeking asylum are genuine asylum seekers, that they're support and the they're given support and the rest of it, when they are allowed to be here, but where they're not, because for whatever reason, they don't meet the standard. we don't think that they're to be in the that they're safe to be in the country, that we take action. that's public would that's what the public would expect. isn't what that's what the public would expec seeing isn't what that's what the public would expec seeing isrthe'hat that's what the public would expec seeing isrthe current we're seeing under the current government. we're seeing absolute gimmick after gimmick headune absolute gimmick after gimmick headline the headline after headline. but the result that my community, result is that in my community, the local hotel is still being used because the government have lost control. >> what feeling you, >> what i'm feeling from you, jim, that you're basically jim, is that you're basically looking a department which jim, is that you're basically lookfeel a department which jim, is that you're basically lookfeel isa department which jim, is that you're basically lookfeel is woefully nent which you feel is woefully understaffed , and therefore understaffed, and therefore they're not able to carry out they're not able to carry out the procedures properly. so it doesn't really matter in terms

of whether people believe in labour or not. you're actually looking at the people who have to staff and decide on these things . and obviously you feel things. and obviously you feel there's shortcoming . there's a shortcoming. >> the fact is that the government are accountable. they set the departmental budget, they set the legislation that they set the legislation that the department to follow , the department has to follow, and they give leadership. and what office civil what the home office civil servants will looking at with servants will be looking at with this is a government this government is a government that busy preoccupied that is so busy and preoccupied with headlines and with chasing headlines and flights that they're flights to rwanda that they're not with the underlying not dealing with the underlying pressures the system pressures that are in the system to deal with it. and to actually deal with it. and when have backlog when you have that backlog waiting impacting on local waiting list impacting on local communities of communities where the use of temporary accommodation, when you are genuine you have people who are genuine asylum who are fleeing asylum seekers, who are fleeing persecution, are left persecution, who are being left in limbo , that not a fair in limbo, that is not a fair system for anybody. and the buck stops secretary, stops with the home secretary, who stop using gimmicks who needs to stop using gimmicks and actually forward and actually come forward with a plan that can work, except you are stopping trying to stop are stopping or trying to stop or against legislation or voting against legislation that says would that the government says would deal problem. deal with this problem. >> just come back to your >> and i just come back to your point about way you would

point about the way you would tackle if labour was in tackle this if labour was in power. you're saying need power. you're saying you need more you need proper more staff. you need proper time to cases. are to assess these cases. well, are you saying then that this case wasn't properly because wasn't assessed properly because the point of the judge is using a point of law? why i'm asking law? and that's why i'm asking you legislation, you about legislation, the government's of government's role in all of this. they're saying that there was presented court was evidence presented in court that was a converted that he was a converted christian, though was christian, even though he was convicted offender, that christian, even though he was convi

could easily, for instance, have a centres, offshore a processing centres, offshore so forced to so that people aren't forced to pay so that people aren't forced to pay criminal gangs to bring them across the channel into the country illegally. but they're not they're paying not doing that. they're paying millions on millions of pounds to the on rwanda flights. what for a gimmick? it's not going to fundamentally the system. fundamentally change the system. it's going to deal with a it's not going to deal with a backlog. and know backlog. and they know that they're just trying desperately to line the to crawl over the line to the next election. just hoping that they're found out. well, they're not found out. well, they're not found out. well, they found because they are found out because people know ultimately, that the local the road is local hotel down the road is full of asylum full to the brink of asylum seekers of the backlog seekers because of the backlog of process that of asylum process that the government reigned over. government have reigned over. and know see it and they know that they see it in their communities. and so whatever say in their communities. and so whate'the say in their communities. and so whate'the rwanda say in their communities. and so whate'the rwanda flights, say in their communities. and so whate'the rwanda flights, about about the rwanda flights, about what's wrong , what's right and what's wrong, the evidence doesn't support that being taken where that action is being taken where it's and i love, i love when >> and jim, i love, i love when people tell it as it is. and this is the truth that doesn't get coverage in mainstream media. i've told this story a few times, on the on the programme, belfast went back to belfast a month ago, where i'm from, and 17 hotels, 1718 houses and, call in hotels . when i say

and, call in hotels. when i say hotels, they're eating establishments as well with you know, 20 rooms attached and whatever it happens to be, 17 of them bought out by the government to house migrants just around belfast. not a word . just around belfast. not a word. not a word about this going on. people just see that their local facilities disappear and the bill has to be paid. whether anybody says or not, the bill has to be paid to house these people. >> i mean, to be clear, when we talk about these people, a significant number of people who are currently in temporary accommodation when their application is then assessed will allowed leave to remain will be allowed leave to remain because they will be genuine asylum seekers. so we need to separate system the separate out the system from the individuals. i'm sure the individuals. i'm sure the individuals in single, individuals who are in single, accommodation, hotel rooms, sharing sometimes with sharing a room, sometimes with people know or would people they don't know or would prefer that not be the prefer for that not to be the system. this is a result of a government failure, but we can't ignore the community impact. it's significant a it's a significant impact when a hotel provided for hotel that provided jobs for local people, is a venue in local people, that is a venue in my community, for christians and for for other for weddings and for other events. absolutely.

events. yeah, absolutely. taken out economy. was out of the economy. and i was i was belfast yesterday, you was in belfast yesterday, you know, a wonderful place, a beautiful, part the uk where beautiful, part of the uk where tourism they need tourism is thriving, they need the the local economy the hotel for the local economy and tourism , but because the and for tourism, but because the government hasn't got a grip of the system, i'm afraid the asylum system, i'm afraid they're to give the they're forced then to give the hotels the government hotels over to the government and other contractors and serco and other contractors for use. in the end, we've for this use. in the end, we've got to repair system because got to repair a system because the people, i believe, the british people, i believe, are compassionate and caring. and people genuinely need and when people genuinely need help flee help and support to flee persecution, they will stand absolutely side. but absolutely by their side. but they don't want the system to be abused, and they want the government to on side government to be on the side of what's it's what's right. and frankly, it's the that failed on the government that failed on this agenda. >> okay, jim, you're talking >> okay, jim, so you're talking about resourcing these about staffing, resourcing these departments. very much departments. thank you very much indeed. listeners indeed. and viewers, listeners have your say views or gb news. >> com we're going to get the views now of father david palmer. good morning to you. look the characterisation of this i don't know how much it worries you. there's a feeling in this country that people are on their knees, to avoid becoming deportees. they are

praying so that they are staying here in the uk. are you being used ? used? >> and, well, i think one of the problems is we keep referring to the church as if it's a sort of, monolithic organisation. >> there's a big difference. so the catholic church, for example, we have a informal process to become a christian. a course can last like 7 or 8 months to rcia. another little independent baptist church might set itself up last week and bapfise set itself up last week and baptise someone in a shopping centre. and i think there's a bit of a myth. i think the home office should be able to make a sort of distinction, really, if they had been religious literacy, and that's what we're talking about, really, and we have a guy here who failed the bafic have a guy here who failed the basic christianity test, and then because some independent baptist minister said, oh, he's a good bloke. the judge ruled in, in his favour. and i think that's just, well, i don't think the faults of the church, i think the fault is the home

office and the church isn't a department of the state would be my point. father it's interesting. i just want to be very clear about what what you're saying here. the newspaper headlines are saying churches are undermining the asylum system. you don't believe that that is the case? >> well, i don't think it's the church's job to be, asylum control. you know, we have people paid to do that , and, you people paid to do that, and, you know, we do get genuine converts . i mean, that's one of the myths going on, you know, the idea that all converts are fakes.i idea that all converts are fakes. i can testify from my own experience, that's not true. but at the same time, of course, we get frauds. but ultimately, the church isn't the body that's been formed and paid by the government to enforce border control. that's not our role. and i think the home office to try and shift the blame. i think just passing the buck is the church being used because a lot of these asylum seekers can claim if they're christians, they would be persecuted when if

they would be persecuted when if they to their they were sent back to their country of origin. >> it's a sort of form of >> so it's a sort of form of defence if they convert . defence if they convert. >> yeah, i'm certainly. and of course that's if they course that's true. if they really do convert, some of them will persecuted. they go will get persecuted. if they go back their country, but what back to their country, but what i'm saying, i suppose, is if the church in catholic church so in the catholic church, seven month church, we have a seven month process somebody that wants church, we have a seven month pribecome somebody that wants church, we have a seven month pribecome aomebody that wants church, we have a seven month pribecome a catholic, that wants church, we have a seven month pribecome a catholic, if at wants church, we have a seven month pribecome a catholic, if theyints to become a catholic, if they come to the whole process over seven months and they come to mass every and they come to mass every week and they come to all the course at the end of it, unless very good unless you've got a very good reason say they're blatantly reason to say they're blatantly faking . and that's can't faking it. and that's i can't see people's souls , that see in people's souls, that that's not the responsibility of the of the church is to spread the of the church is to spread the gospel. it's the responsibility of the state to decide whether someone's, you know, to stay in the country. yeah >> and also, father, the catholic diaspora, around the country , you go to any i'm country, you go to any i'm a catholic, you go to a catholic church, particularly in big cities like london or i mean, evenin cities like london or i mean, even in cheltenham or various places like this. and so much of

the congregation is obviously not indigenous. it's obviously not indigenous. it's obviously not from england, say, for instance. and that's understandable because these are people who are catholics in brazil, in poland , in various brazil, in poland, in various things, and they need somewhere to worship and usually their sense of worship is much greater than, a lot, a lot of people here where the numbers are falling off and dying off, and those people have to be catered for and taken seriously. absolutely >> i mean, i have a parish in nottingham and we're full of, indians from kerala, from catholics from nigeria. i mean, it's a hugely multicultural, community. i would say one of the most effective multicultural communities that you're going to find. everyone is together with, with a joint cause. now, obviously, you 1 or 2 people could slip in. that's possible , could slip in. that's possible, and we don't take passports at the door of the church, but the vast majority of people there are working in our hospitals. they're working in our schools,

that genuine catholics that they're genuine catholics who are coming together to worship from all over the world. and the kind and that's the kind of integration that we want, actually, as a society. so i yeah, i think a good yeah, i think that's a good thing, not a bad thing. >> father, we'll leave there. >> father, we'll leave it there. thank you much indeed for thank you very much indeed for your this morning. thank your time this morning. thank your time this morning. thank you . you. >> on to prince harry. now, he's been named bombshell been named in a bombshell us court to the court document relating to the rapper diddy. court document relating to the rapper diddy . real names sean rapper p diddy. real names sean combs. >> okay, these documents in the court, they mention guests were drawn to combs alleged sex trafficking parties because of his access to celebrities and people like prince harry. royal commentator angela levin is with us now . angela, i'm looking at us now. angela, i'm looking at this and i think this is so not a story. >> i agree with you. yeah i mean, as harry's biographer and seeing the big change in him after he got married and how awful he's been to the royal family, i'm very quick to sort of carry on saying how naughty a

spiteful he's been this time. i think it's absolutely not true, it's ridiculous really . it was it's ridiculous really. it was a concert to celebrate what would have been his mother's 30th, 36th birthday. and he went along there with a girlfriend and he was there and obviously he was very grateful for this. who wouldn't do something like that ? wouldn't do something like that? and that's the only time he's seen diddy. so i think to put him into the problems that will be, found in, in, in very shortly is ridiculous. >> you just said something which sort of hit me quite soberly there, would have been her 36th birthday, so she was dead before she hit 40? yes >> gosh. yeah. so, so young. >> gosh. yeah. so, so young. >> it was. he was very upset when he got to the same age and he realised that, you know, what he realised that, you know, what he had in common with her was the age and how terrible. because he realised he was young

and how terrible it was that she'd lost her life after that. and indeed, it's true . and indeed, it's true. >> we should be clear prince harry isn't being accused of anything in this, in these court documents, because, you know, there's a lot of clickbait out there. i mean, just look at the front of the sun there. harry named in p diddy sex traffic case, and your heart a case, and your heart skips a beat and you think, oh, what have we got here? what's he done now, actually he's he's now, but actually he's he's being as dignitary being named as a dignitary or equivalent a celebrity being named as a dignitary or equi people a celebrity being named as a dignitary or equi people could a celebrity being named as a dignitary or equi people could rub:elebrity being named as a dignitary or equi people could rub shoulders that people could rub shoulders with these unsavoury parties. >> he was named that he would encourage people to come because of is. yeah, but that of who he is. yeah, but that doesn't mean he's done anything. and hasn't done anything . and he hasn't done anything. he's be accused he's not going to be accused of anything. think that , you anything. and i think that, you know, we've had our go at him all the time . and i don't think all the time. and i don't think that's really fair to have him on the front and, you know, attack him or insinuate that he was responsible. yeah, what else have you got? that's that's in your head, royal circle wise . your head, royal circle wise. >> well, camilla, queen camilla,

tomorrow she's going off to give all the money, maundy thursday. >> oh, yes. yes. >>— >> oh, yes. yes. >> and she's got a she'll have a red purse and a white purse. it's the first time this was one of the queen's most favourite things to do. >> so this is holy thursday. >> so this is holy thursday. >> this is holy thursday, before holy friday. really yes. and you have to give the same number of people as the age of the monarch . so she will be giving 75 men, 75 women, money in these little purses. and it's a very, very , purses. and it's a very, very, important job. and king charles can't do it. he would always the monarch does it. and there she is going to do it for him. and it'll be very quiet. and she's very good with old people. she spent a lot of covid talking to people who were old and on their own. zoom. yeah, very kind. and so that's, very good.

>> and the good news, of course, is we will, we've been told, see the king with her majesty the queen at the easter service on sunday. do you think that will go some way to reassuring people who might feel unsettled in the wake of the difficult news we've had recently? wake of the difficult news we've hac i �*ecently? wake of the difficult news we've haci thinkly? wake of the difficult news we've haci think it’ wake of the difficult news we've haci think it will. i think it's >> i think it will. i think it's a very important day. and if he can manage there and if he smiles he's i think it smiles and he's okay, i think it will a difference. but will make a huge difference. but then expect too then they mustn't expect too much there's only going much because there's only going to be a few royals. he's going to be a few royals. he's going to lead them, but we don't know how many will be. there won't be very you have to take very many. and you have to take it carefully. a man of that age, he to be very careful. and he needs to be very careful. and it's meeting people it's particularly meeting people and being close to people. so he will be people who stand on will be the people who stand on either side, will have to be right back. so he's got plenty of suppose the concern is of i suppose the concern is medically catching something while he's undergoing treatments. yes i mean, you're much more your body is easier to accept any, any jam that's wandering around. so that's what he really must look after. but

he really must look after. but he is so bored he can't bear it. he's never in his life. he is so bored he can't bear it. he's never in his life . life, he's never in his life. life, been so much at home and not being able to go out and meet people. his life is meeting people, talking to people of all types, all ages. but he can't do that. and it's very, very frustrating. >> and reports that he's very emotional at the moment. he's really heartbroken for catherine, for all that she's having to go through, heartbroken to go to his grandchildren. of course, not being able to fulfil this role he's been waiting so long to do. >> also for william, >> yes, also for william, because, you know, he can understand the pressure that he's under and what's expected of him . it's very, very of him. it's very, very difficult for the senior royals. meanwhile camilla, just to end on a nice note, is that she has these book clubs and she got somebody to look into how good reading is . and they said that reading is. and they said that if anybody reads any child reads , it makes them much more relaxed, gives them confidence

and they can feel part of an association if they do. the results came out last night, and i think that's really interesting because you wonder, you know, people stop reading really. they just want two lines in tiktok and that's it. you know, if they if you do read a bit, it helps a lot of your body not just gives you a story. >> yeah. she loves reading doesn't she's an avid reader. and she was hosting this event at clarence house last night. joanna lumley and others, all big readers. yes. sort of celebrating and things. celebrating novels and things. do think that will do you think that will inspire people do you think that will inspire peowell, think it would >> well, i think it would inspire the people are inspire the people who are there. to one of them. it there. i went to one of them. it was absolutely wonderful. all my favourite authors there, favourite authors were there, like, who? actually, no. she pointed see her? oh, pointed me out. see her? oh, she's doing the burglary. some people clap, some people laughed. i thought, oh god, you know, but that was very nice of them to invite me. but she loves that. she loves getting people together topic and then together on a topic and then actually talking about it. and her father taught her that the

main thing in life is to learn to read. and that's what she's done. and i think it's a wonderful thing to take up. okay >> well, angela, thank you very much indeed. lovely, lovely. listening thank you very listening to you. thank you very much. see you again soon. much. we'll see you again soon. yes. you. yes. thank you. >> right. is it going to be a lovely day weather wise? greg dewhurst forecast? dewhurst has your forecast? >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather. low pressure continues to dominate the weather pattern through today. further spells of rain, heavy showers , blustery winds heavy showers, blustery winds over the next few days as well. so looking at the bigger picture, we do have rain across northern and western parts of the uk this morning. some localised flooding possible across parts of northern ireland, particular as the ireland, in particular as the heavy rain from slowly heavy rain from overnight slowly clears bright spells clears some bright spells developing as we move into the afternoon. will trigger afternoon. but this will trigger some thundery showers with some heavy thundery showers with some heavy thundery showers with some possible with brisk some hail possible with brisk southerly winds. it will feel quite chilly in the south and

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spend £415 million on easter eggs this year, chocolatiers like joe are having a busy time. >> this year is definitely busier than last year and previous years before that, which is fantastic , people which is fantastic, people really seem to be, wanting to appreciate good quality chocolate and finding more independence to support. >> however, for the industry as a whole, the impact of inflated costs across the board cannot be overstated , with consumer overstated, with consumer watchdog, which reporting a 12.6% rise in easter chocolate this year . this year. >> well, obviously, as we all know, last year there was a massive energy crisis, i mean, our energy bills went up five times the amount that they were before, which was ridiculous, this year we're facing a particular, difficult time with cocoa, which is obviously the main ingredient within the chocolate, that's gone up significantly over the last yeah significantly over the last year. this time last year, it was 2800, roughly dollars per ton , it's just peaked this week

ton, it's just peaked this week at $8,800 per ton, but will inflated prices put us off our easter chocolate ? easter chocolate? >> between 80 to 90 million easter eggs were expected to be sold in the uk this year. for the average child, it works out at more than eight eggs each. thatis at more than eight eggs each. that is a lot of chocolate in birmingham. increased costs are causing a dilemma for some. >> i've literally been thinking about this today. i don't >> i've literally been thinking about this today . i don't know about this today. i don't know where to go big because i've got a toddler or whether to give him something healthy and not give him any eggs all. is that mean? >> oh, i love chocolate, don't get me wrong, but probably get me wrong, but i'll probably just pack of magic stars just buy a pack of magic stars or something like the easter egg. >> usually i'd buy more, but because of living because of the cost of living and everything going i've and everything going up, i've had reduce what get for people. >> despite some price concerns, the easter bunny will still be busy weekend , leaving eggs busy this weekend, leaving eggs for across the country. for millions across the country. jack gb birmingham jack carson gb news birmingham to bite those chocolate ears off. >> i did find the most beautiful easter eggs. terry's orange

eggs. not not not not chocolate orange. not the chocolate orange that they do. they do like cadbury's mini eggs, but they're do they orange. terry's absolutely delicious, we've got artisan chocolatier, which means she's a posh egg maker. that's lisa green lisa. very good morning. good to see you. good morning. good to see you. good morning. lisa, i don't know where where to begin with, certainly. things are smaller, or or they're more or they're or they're more expensive or maybe both. >> i think it's a question of both. i mean, as we know, food pnces both. i mean, as we know, food prices have gone up and that has obviously affected the price of cocoa, which has gone up by about 12% over the past year. in addition to that, most i would say 70% of the world's cocoa production comes from west africa , where there has been africa, where there has been a famine which basically has reduced the availability, a lot. so the challenge for especially

artisan chocolate makers is to maintain standards and have a high quality product that people are willing to pay for, high, high quality. >> and how much could they be willing to pay? what's the most expensive egg? >> well, the most expensive egg i've seen this year, is £375 and it weighs about five kilograms. okay, so that's a very. >> what about your most expensive egg? what are people shelling out for eliza green egg or eliza green egg? >> they pay, just under £30. but for that they get a hand—painted 999 for that they get a hand—painted egg with, gold flakes on it, which is real gold. so it's good inflation proof product and hand—painted salted mini eggs. so it's a very bespoke product . yeah. >> so it's individual. >> so it's individual. >> it's, yeah. you're not going to go out and get that in any supermarket. >> no it is. yeah. no yeah. >> no it is. yeah. no yeah. >> so the thing is, is about what do you do now as a parent of young kids, i used to a lot of young kids, i used to a lot

of people don't show their eggs until easter sunday, but in our house, my dad, we used to have them up over the fireplace and whatever. and they were there for a couple of weeks before. >> of course, my children are listening because they're going on school run we speak, on the school run as we speak, so we wait to see what the easter bunny brings, easter easter bunny brings, on easter monday, but the easter bunny morning. but the easter bunny is usually generous, usually quite generous, and there's usually quite a few, so we'll have to see what the easter bunny does. of easter bunny does. and of course, that related to good course, that is related to good behaviour. children, in case you're listening, but, you know, we talking little bit we were talking a little bit about some of the more high street chains, perhaps the street chains, perhaps of the other chocolates. got other chocolates. we've got a tony's chocolonely here. >> you. that's a >> i'll tell you. that's a disgrace. that was in a box, right? that's in a box. no tin foil all. no wrapping. foil on it at all. no wrapping. it's better than this day it's not better than this day and age for the planet. no, i think the whole thing is you disrobe. it's like a striptease, isn't it? you take the foil off the egg. that's all part of the ugliness of it all. >> mom, and then we've got a lindt . which is. are they lindt. which is. are they belgian or swiss? >> they're swiss . they were

>> they're swiss. they were swiss. i'm not sure if chocolate is. >> yeah. and i noticed you have belgian milk. yes but not belgian milk. yes but not belgian chocolate. cocoa in your eggsis belgian chocolate. cocoa in your eggs is that. what's the difference there? belgian milk special? no, it's not the milk. >> it's the quality of the cocoa. so if i use, chocolate for a chocolatier , there's a for a chocolatier, there's a guarantee that it will have a certain percentage of cocoa powder in it. unlike chocolates that you can buy in some supermarkets. and you can make little cupcakes or little chocolates in plastic trays, they don't actually have the legal amount of cocoa in them. so milk has a bit less than dark. yeah, but when you're an artisan , you can tailor your artisan, you can tailor your product according to whether you want it darker and stronger or creamier and less and what do you prefer? i prefer milk, yeah , you prefer? i prefer milk, yeah, interesting. but a lot of it's quite interesting to look at the, the class aspect generally people in the uk prefer milk people in the uk prefer milk

people in the upper echelons of society prefer dark. >> okay. yeah well, that's not as nice. >> i have to say. milk. i'm with you. i'm with you on that one. easter eggs originate from europe in the early 19th century. so that means 18 something and other, france and germany took the lead in this. and the first cadbury easter eggs were made in 1875. >> and easter egg sales fell by 600,000 amid a consumer backlash over the rising cost of them. and shrinkflation. we're interested to know at home, will you be buying fewer easter eggs this year because they're so darned expensive and also, which one's your favourite? let us know your favourite type. dark, milky, high end high street. you tell us your favourite. we'll read some of those out without. >> will take break and then >> we will take a break and then we'll be talking and a we'll be talking and taking a look what's making the news look at what's making the news with hoenderkamp and with renee hoenderkamp and norman next

on titchmarsh's pants have been censored. >> this is in north korea. >> this is in north korea. >> you're not allowed to look at alan titchmarsh pants on the tv program. remember? he's 74 years of age. and norman baker renee hunter camp here to look at stories. making the news. norman, why are tichy's pants titch here? >> well, because obviously his jeans rather than his pants. actually, his jeans are a symbol of western imperialism. according to denim. yes, according to our north korean leader, kim jong un. and therefore he's been has had him blurred out . and the last time blurred out. and the last time i remember having someone having having trousers blurred out was actually elvis presley back in not that i was there at the time, back in the 50s for being for gyrating too much. i don't

think alan titchmarsh was gyrating, but nevertheless he was decadent . the other was decadent. the other surprising me, surprising thing to me, actually, north korean actually, is the north korean television bbc production. >> yeah, yeah, i didn't know they into gardening in they were into gardening in nonh north korea. >> is. they're obviously not >> it is. they're obviously not into because picture into jeans, because the picture that the papers that you'll see in the papers today has this fuzz, just today just has this fuzz, just this which sort of this blur which we sort of associate with criminals. >> yeah. yes. >> yeah. yes. >> it's like some sort of criminal activity going on down there. >> and there has been a ban on this sort of thing, this decadence, since 1990, in north korea. right there we go. let's talk about pensions. renee front page of the, i don't know what that stands for anyway . from that stands for anyway. from page that stands for anyway. from page somewhere other state pension age may rise. why why would it be rising? >> so it has to rise. eamonn because we are an ageing population and our pension pot is one of the biggest outlays that we have of, you know, taxpayers money. and actually i looked back at this and in 1906 when they introduced the pension or that government introduced the pension, the liberal government, liberal

government, the liberal government, the liberal government , let me forget government, let me not forget that average life expectancy that the average life expectancy was 51 and you were not allowed to collect. were not allowed to collect. you were not allowed to collect. you were not allowed to collect. you were not allowed to collect your pension until you were 70. not many people you were 70. so not many people collected it. now we've got a life expectancy of 84, 83, 84. and we're collecting it at 66. and we're collecting it at 66. and people are complaining it has to go up. otherwise it is just an unaffordable ponzi scheme that cannot be satisfied. >> but everything's gone up as well. and people who thought that they would have a bit more leisure time, they'd be able to afford bus or whatever it afford a bus tour or whatever it happens to be, and now look at every single penny counts for them . them. >> yeah, no, i agree, and i mean, norman and i actually argued a little bit over the triple because i our triple lock because i think our pensioners thrown under the pensioners are thrown under the bus. pension is of bus. our state pension is one of the lowest europe, but being the lowest in europe, but being a what we like to a realist, what we would like to do what we can afford to do, do and what we can afford to do, unless people suddenly start having children , we having lots more children, we can't do. >> well, what was your argument in, in this discussion? >> well, i think that pensioners have been relatively well looked after compared to other elements

have been relatively well looked aft societypared to other elements have been relatively well looked aft society ,3red to other elements have been relatively well looked aft society , mainly other elements have been relatively well looked aft society , mainly because ments have been relatively well looked aft society , mainly because theys of society, mainly because they vote. and governments have been very careful not to alienate pensioners. and the winter fuel allowance example, is allowance for example, is claimable people who claimable by people who don't need people who are living need it, people who are living ex—pats in the south of spain can claim the winter fuel allowance . we need to be allowance. we need to be rational about these things. we can't afford everything and that sort be, in my sort of thing should be, in my view, stopped. >> norman, not >> so norman, i'm not disagreeing with but i'm disagreeing with you, but i'm just a case as somebody just putting a case as somebody who's pension age , who's approaching pension age, my mortgage has gone up hugely. it's trebled in what i have to repay , every month now. so at repay, every month now. so at times we may have thought, you know, i've got a bit of extra cash or something. this might be okay. don't have any extra cash. so many people. >> i'm sure that's the case for some people, but, i mean, you can find people all through society who've got mortgage problems and other problems making mean, making ends meet. i mean, i speak a pensioner myself speak as a pensioner myself these i'm so i've seen these days. i'm 66, so i've seen that the sharp end talking to my

friends. >> so but also the case i put to you, norman, because norman said that should be means that pensions should be means tested, think an tested, which i think is an outrageous idea, is that i don't have i only will have a state pension. i don't have a private have had pension. i don't have a. private have had one, pension. i never have had one, i've paid get i've probably paid in. you get an nhs pension ? no, i'm not in an nhs pension? no, i'm not in the pension. oh, right, so the nhs pension. oh, right, so all i have is a state to rely on. but if it was means. means tested, i probably wouldn't get that and yet i've that either. and yet i've probably more tax than most probably paid more tax than most across my life, so it doesn't seem particularly when seem particularly fair. and when you that way. so the you look at it that way. so the only fair way that people only fair way is that people carry working longer. carry on working longer. >> mean, to be clear, i >> well, i mean, to be clear, i mean, what is absolutely clear to me is that things like the winter should winter fuel allowance should be means there's pension. >> i don't disagree that. >> i don't disagree with that. >> i don't disagree with that. >> yeah. hum >> yeah. hum >> we're going pause when we >> we're going to pause when we come we're to talk come back. we're going to talk about of british gas, about the head of british gas, his pay package. he'll not need a

okay. so, £8 million, is due this year . okay. so, £8 million, is due this year. he's the head of centrica, which was british gas , centrica, which was british gas, norman, what do you think? >> another unsuccessful privatisations. when i think about it, chris o'shea, his name is britain's luckiest man. £8.2 million. he's being paid this year or last year, in fact, which is £22,465 per day , which which is £22,465 per day, which is about the same as a newly qualified nurse. gets in a year, so there you are. you take your choice, which is worth more as a nurse over a year, or him for one day. it's outrageous, of course. and it's made up from three elements £800,000 salary at 1.4 million in bonuses, no doubt, for looking after a shareholders and then the rest of it is linked to the share price of centrica . price of centrica. >> yeah, i mean, i wouldn't mind this pay packet if this guy ran the company so well that bills

for the everyday working person were almost non—existent because he was that brilliant then fine, he was that brilliant then fine, he deserves every penny. but whilst bills are as high as they've ever been, people are struggling to put food on their table . bill. and this man will table. bill. and this man will be, as norman rightly says , be, as norman rightly says, making big payouts by his company to shareholders was then. this is absolutely outrageous . outrageous. >> renee, the mail are reporting today, there's an opinion piece by sarah vine is how the chinese view to british people, how do they view british people ? they view british people? >> well, i think sarah vine rightly summarised it nicely . rightly summarised it nicely. you know, she says that they view us as a nation of soft bellied layabouts who are absolutely addicted to obviously their fast clothes and everything else. they supply us. our phones , tiktok and our phones, tiktok and everything else. whilst they don't that way at all. don't live that way at all. okay, so we have outsourced all of our manufacturing to them, so everybody expects now that they can order everything today and it arrives by amazon tomorrow, always from china usually. and

we're slowly sleepwalking into a situation where everything is controlled by china from our electric cars, which we discovered last week. they could just switch off to, not be reliant on our own fuel. so that's all coming from abroad as well . so i that's all coming from abroad as well. so i think sarah vine and i don't often agree with sarah vine, he's actually right. we have slept walked into the situation where we are absolutely reliant on the chinese. walked off. chinese. we slept, walked off. >> led by our now >> we've been led by our now foreign secretary, david cameron. >> i think both. i think >> i think it's both. i think because everybody raising >> i think it's both. i think becalabouterybody raising >> i think it's both. i think becal about howdy raising >> i think it's both. i think becal about how dangerousiising >> i think it's both. i think becal about how dangerous this; flags about how dangerous this is bit from china , but is and this bit from china, but nobody does anything about it until got the point until we've got to the point where so we almost where we're so reliant we almost can't way out . can't see a way out. >> what is the david cameron tried to stop me and tim loughton, actually, from meeting the dalai lama in private , the dalai lama in private, because it might upset the chinese when we were ministers. crikey. it was outrageous. >> so did you meet the dalai lama? >> we did meet the dalai lama, but not on that particular occasion. we did. but it occasion. but we did. but it cost a ferrari and government at

the loughton, the time. and tim loughton, i wrote cameron wrote a letter to cameron afterwards complained afterwards and complained about this. palmed off on this. we got palmed off on william hague, the foreign secretary the time, who was secretary at the time, who was actually was quite sympathetic, i david i think, rather than david cameron. know, we have cameron. but, you know, we have gone too far with the gone far too far with the chinese we have. and the story in paper we haven't talked in the paper we haven't talked about today, it's in the news anyway. silver anyway. is this this, silver intervention taxi intervention of this flying taxi , this taxi, which is a car and then produces wings within two minutes and takes off. and it's already been successfully test flown, that's just been sold to the chinese . the chinese are the chinese. the chinese are controlling huge amounts of natural resources in africa. it's a new imperialism. actually, they're controlling east african countries, very disadvantageous deals where they can't afford to pay back the chinese. it's going to come and say, well, we'll take over your port. this is happening all the time. and the chinese are in fact, becoming very, very powerful in the world. they're going america. and going to overtake america. and what actually, is what worries me, actually, is the that chinese the fact that the chinese leadership deeply leadership is deeply, deeply under aquatic, the chinese population is under deep

control, and they don't respect human rights at all. >> the economy is going to take over the united states. they've got an ageing population, really high unemployment, and do high unemployment, and they do have a lot economic problems have a lot of economic problems post they do have shut post pandemic. they do have shut down so many of their cities. >> they do have those, but they've also huge control they've also got huge control over their population, which is pretty compliant. see pretty compliant. if you see chinese in they chinese people in london, they will at lights and not will stop at lights and not cross the when it says red, cross the road when it says red, even though there's traffic. even though there's no traffic. yeah. british people, in yeah. whereas british people, in my sensibly make a my view, quite sensibly make a judgement. there's no traffic across road, right. across the road, right, right. >> those cars. >> it's those flying cars. i can't get my head around. >> sounds horrendous. >> sounds horrendous. >> can see the technology >> i can see the technology working. understand how working. i can understand how the but then the technology works. but then the technology works. but then the that any mistake at all the idea that any mistake at all in dad and collisions or if in your dad and collisions or if you're a drone, this is a thing, they would be drones . they would be drones. >> no, no, you cannot run into a drone, mightn't you? >> oh yeah, of course, but you can actually get enough space on a road to have a runway to take off. >> well, some of them are, some of them are vertical takeoff

that have been developed. >> i mean it'll be controlled by ai. know, i can't cope ai. i don't know, i can't cope with it. let's with the with it. let's stick with the stuff. can get my head around stuff. i can get my head around this is football. got kicked this is a football. got kicked over a garden fence. a dad went to and retrieve it, and he's to try and retrieve it, and he's being sued his neighbours. being sued by his neighbours. >> this is a very >> yeah, this is a very unfortunate neighbour dispute. and who's now and this is a man who's now facing, £19,000 of facing, well, £19,000 of damages, been awarded damages, which he's been awarded against run up against him. he said he'd run up against him. he said he'd run up a £40,000 legal bill, the court has yet decided whether he has not yet decided whether he should neighbour's bill should pay the neighbour's bill as have to do as well. he might have to do that. he's thinking of that. and he's thinking of appealing. have more appealing. so he must have more money than sense. >> did he get the ball back? >> did he get the ball back? >> they don't say that. actually. very good question. >> they say that he gets >> they say that when he gets the ball back, the mums. but you know, they've clearly been not very to other. >> well i think the sad thing about just that, isn't about this is just that, isn't it? whenever see a neighbour it? whenever you see a neighbour dispute, hedge or a dispute, be it over a hedge or a ball, think to yourself as ball, you think to yourself as a reasonable person, how on earth did this actually get to the court in first place? where court in the first place? where was somebody around? where was somebody going around? where were around were the women going around saying, can we talk about saying, look, can we talk about this? football.

this? it's my son's football. yes. kick it in yes. he shouldn't kick it in your we're sorry. it your garden. we're sorry. it won't happen again. please. >> a bit sense there. >> yeah. a bit of sense there. >> yeah. a bit of sense there. >> maybe has a few times. >> cherry on the cake. >> cherry on the cake. >> but the report on this, i mean, who knows? i do know i mean, who knows? i do know i mean, i can remember as a youngster playing in the street and what few cars there were in the street in those but the street in those days. but when i of we to when i think of how we used to kick ball and it would hit kick the ball and it would hit the side panelling somebody's the side panelling of somebody's car obviously car or whatever, and obviously dent things, mean, i'm dent and do things, i mean, i'm it seemed to be i was just prone in our back garden to smashing windows. god. you what? windows. oh, god. you know what? we we had the goals in we had the we had the goals in a certain position and obviously you didn't always score and the ball would our back window ball would hit our back window and that was it. and then that was it. >> nip over the >> and did you also nip over the fence nick someone's fence and nick someone's apples from trees? fence and nick someone's apples frorand trees? fence and nick someone's apples frorand myrees? fence and nick someone's apples frorand my brother brian did. he >> and my brother brian did. he was. but i used to wind him up to him to do but that to get him to do it. but that was part and parcel of it. was all part and parcel of it. >> yeah, i think live and let live, i think, is the answer here really. i mean, this is outrageously people's behalf. >> i remember as a child when >> i do remember as a child when i sprayed neighbour's washing i sprayed my neighbour's washing on on a hot, sunny day

on the line on a hot, sunny day with hose, and i remember with the hose, and i remember her being at the front door with a wet dress, screaming at my mum. oh, she likes a very sunny day. it will dry. >> it's okay. oh my goodness. so you bad you must have been bad neighbours have neighbours then. that must have been on the cake. been the cherry on the cake. >> it just was too tempting. >> it just was too tempting. >> okay. >> okay, okay. >> okay, okay. >> well, that's. 30s, >> well, that's. we're 30s, before we say goodbye to you, so thank you very much indeed. both of you, for, going through the papers this morning and being with papers this morning and being witithanks the chocolate. >> thanks for the chocolate. >> thanks for the chocolate. >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> take some chocolate with you. we've been unhealthy. we've just been very unhealthy. breakfast update the viewers that we've been much that we've been very much enjoying these hand—painted, salted caramel pink. do you salted caramel pink. oh, do you want go on? you sample one want to go on? you sample one live no, i don't want to live or. no, i don't want to wrap my teeth. go on then. do you have another one, these are your favourite. >> you prefer. >> or did you prefer. >> or did you prefer. >> no, no, i prefer, i prefer the ones that box. oh, sorry. >> right. pass norman, the other box. >> right. >> right. >> this is. it's the chilly ones for me. lovely. is greg with the weather? >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather gb news.

weather on gb news. >> there. welcome to your >> hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather. low pressure continues to dominate the weather pattern through today. further spells of rain, heavy showers , blustery winds heavy showers, blustery winds over the next few days as well. so looking at the bigger picture, we do have rain across northern and western parts of the morning. some the uk this morning. some localised flooding possible across northern across parts of northern ireland, particular as the ireland, in particular as the heavy from overnight slowly heavy rain from overnight slowly clears. spells clears. some bright spells developing move into the developing as we move into the afternoon. will trigger afternoon. but this will trigger some with some heavy thundery showers with some heavy thundery showers with some possible with brisk some hail possible with brisk southerly winds. it will feel quite chilly in the south and the west . here. quite chilly in the south and the west. here. highs of 11 or 12 celsius in any brighter skies we could see highs of 13 or 14 in a few sheltered spots into the evening time. further heavy showers pushed northwards across the country, these merging into some longer spells of rain and then during the early hours, this batch wet weather moves this batch of wet weather moves into central southern of into central southern parts of england be heavy england and wales could be heavy at times. so a cloudy night here but clearing skies across northern ireland and scotland. a touch frost and some fog here

touch of frost and some fog here as temperatures fall close to, if below freezing. so if not below freezing. so north—south split start north—south split to start thursday. windy weather thursday. wet and windy weather across parts of wales and england. brighter skies northern ireland and scotland. and then these weather systems slowly push northwards as we go through the further wet and windy the day. further wet and windy weather into central weather pushing into central southern england. gales along some coasts , at times some southern coasts, at times to the best of the drier weather, holding across weather, holding on across northern scotland, and for most temperatures 12 or 13. temperatures around 12 or 13. see you soon! >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar for sponsors of weather on

good morning. welcome to the program. it is 9:00 on wednesday, the 27th of march. you're tuned into breakfast with eamonn and isabel. >> and if you've had your breakfast, tell us what you had. was nice? was it having was it nice? was it worth having more more people say they

more and more people say they skipped their breakfast in the morning. as a meal morning. they see it as a meal that they don't need fasting. >> it okay? >> does it work okay? >> does it work okay? >> leading our news for you this morning. this what we've got. morning. this is what we've got. christianity conversion criticism. office criticism. the home office sources accuse the church of undermining the asylum system . undermining the asylum system. >> that's after the clapham chemical attacker was allowed to remain in britain, despite lying and failing christianity test. and failing a christianity test. earlier, we spoke to the minister of state for science, research and innovation. >> we can't have his a system dnven >> we can't have his a system driven by credulous clerics and lefty lawyers, which is precisely why this government is taking forward legislation that will ensure that people like ezedi should never be in this country. in the first place. >> on the political front , will >> on the political front, will this case highlights how there is really an industry now that's sprung up challenging these carefully made home office decisions from immigration lawyers and charities now to the church hall, willing to go into bat for asylum seekers . thank

bat for asylum seekers. thank you mark. also on the political front, double departure for sunak. front, double departure for sunak . the exit of two more sunak. the exit of two more ministers forces him into him and he reshuffled just before easter . easter. >> the duke of sussex has been dragged into the diddy lawsuit . dragged into the diddy lawsuit. prince harry has been named in the rap star's legal proceedings, alleging that sean diddy combs used his name to give trafficking parties give his sex trafficking parties legitimacy . legitimacy. >> waleses failed to secure a place at euro 2024 after a heartbreaking loss in their play off final against poland last night . night. >> and are we being shortchanged in a new easter egg? shrinkflation? some easter eggs are costing 50% more this year, whilst others are smaller . whilst others are smaller. >> hello there, we've got heavy rain and showers in the forecast today but some sunshine to find out. all the weather details coming up in the programme .

soon. >> home office sources have said churches run the risk of undermining the integrity of the asylum system , after it was asylum system, after it was revealed that chemical attacker abdul ezedi was allowed to stay in the uk by a judge who accepted he was a christian convert. despite concerns that he also was a sex offender and a liar . liar. >> immigration files that have now been published by the home office show that ezedi was granted asylum after his application was backed by a baptist church minister. well let's go to our home and security editor mark white. >> mark, tell us more . >> mark, tell us more. >> mark, tell us more. >> well, abdul ezedi came to the uk in the back of a lorry eight years ago, and after repeated applications for asylum , he was applications for asylum, he was turned down not once but twice by the home office . he was also by the home office. he was also a convicted sex offender during his time here in the uk, for a sex attack, a sex assault and also for indecent exposure. but

dunng also for indecent exposure. but during that time he converted to christianity. he got the help of a baptist minister, reverend roy merrin, from the grange road baptist church in jarrow, near newcastle, to testify on his behalf. when this appeal was put before an immigration judge at a heanng before an immigration judge at a hearing in newcastle, in 2020. and that judge decided on the strength of the evidence that was put down by this now retired reverend , that he would indeed reverend, that he would indeed grant ezedi asylum. now, this followed, the fact , as i say, followed, the fact, as i say, not just that the home office had carefully considered not once, but twice the asylum applications and turned them down, but also the baptist church themselves . on hearing church themselves. on hearing that ezedi had convictions for sexual offences put in safeguarding procedures to ensure that he wouldn't be

alone. and unaccompanied when he was in, the church itself . so was in, the church itself. so they had some serious concerns. despite that, this minister went in to bat for ezedi attending multiple hearings and testifying on his behalf that he was sincere, that he had converted to christianity and that his life would be in danger. and in backing up that, particular claim, they had various photographs showing ezedi who was being baptised and also handing out christian leaflets in the local community around jarrow as well. and the judge was persuaded by that, and he was persuaded by that, and he was persuaded by that, and he was persuaded by that, despite the fact that ezedi had been shown to be a liar on multiple occasions, he'd claimed, for instance, that his brother, had been shot and killed in afghanistan, only to change that in later evidence to having been killed in a bomb attack . in later evidence to having been killed in a bomb attack. he'd originally claimed that he was a shia muslim , only to later say

shia muslim, only to later say he was, in fact a sunni muslim. he claimed that his family would be in danger because of his conversion to christianity, but failed to give any indication as to how his family would ever have known that he had converted to christianity, in the first place. so a lot of really serious, and remaining unanswered questions. in this particular case. but i think from the home office's point of view, it highlights a real concern of people, do gooders, they would suggest, who are in a position of trust and authority in the community, who are going in the community, who are going in to bat for asylum seekers to ensure that despite the home office turning down applications at appeal before an independent judge, these people can have real sway on whether someone gets to remain in the country. >> okay, mark, thank you very much indeed. and on the subject of the church, eileen, good morning, eileen, and so many of

you having so much to say on this. the church, eileen says, should not allowed be should not be allowed to be involved issues. involved in migration issues. they looking after they should be looking after their own flock, the flock that is at their local church , is at their local church, instead of worrying about other things. is a complicated situation. >> all religions are a menace. religion has been responsible for more wars and bloodshed than any other single cause throughout history , and valerie throughout history, and valerie says interested to says i would be interested to know how many asylum seekers would convert to christianity after they've been given leave to remain exactly questioning whether their motives to find jesus is to do with staying in the country. >> let's talk about the nhs dissatisfaction with it has fallen to a record low. only 1 in 4 of you saying you are satisfied with the service you are getting. >> these are the findings in the annual report by the think tanks, the king's fund and the nuffield trust. they found pubuc nuffield trust. they found public confidence in the health service is at its lowest since polling began in 1983. and they said the public felt like they were in a toxic relationship

with the nhs. with the n hs. >> with the nhs. >> a northwest of england reporter, sophie reaper sophy, joins us now to tell us more. good morning, sophy . good morning, sophy. >> very good morning to you both. well this isn't anything new. unfortunately public satisfaction in the nhs has been in the decline for some years now. however, you are absolutely right in saying that this is the lowest level it has ever reached since records began. now, this data coming from the british social attitudes poll, where they asked people if they were satisfied or not, and as you say, less than a quarter of the people they asked said they were happy with the service. they have been receiving. and that is five percentage points down from the previous year. so not only is this decline happening, this decline is happening rapidly. now, that's not to say that people are not in support of the idea of the nhs. 91% of people said they still believe the nhs should exist as a free service, and 82% of people said they still believe that it should be

paid for by the taxpayer. however when we look at this data today showing that less than a quarter of people are happy, it goes to show that people are not happy with what their money is paying for. the top three things that people had gnpes top three things that people had gripes about, 71% said they were unhappy with waiting times for appointments, whether that be with their gp or at the hospital itself. second up, 54% of people said they were unhappy with the number of staff shortages and then in third place, 47% of people said that the government were not spending enough money on the nhs. i'm here in manchester this morning and i've been speaking to people in the street asking them whether or not they're satisfied with the nhs, this what they had nhs, and this is what they had to me. new data come out to tell me. new data come out today, which shows that public satisfaction the nhs is at satisfaction in the nhs is at its all time lowest. would you say you are satisfied with the service the nhs provides once you get there? >> yes, but it's actually getting through the gp to

getting through the gp to getting to the nhs. i think that a lot of money is wasted talking to people that work or have worked within the nhs. the amount of waste is phenomenal, so i think they need to look at the management, it needs to start at the top. so i the government could throw more money at it, whichever government is in power. yes, i agree , however, are they agree, however, are they spending that money wisely? >> thankfully don't use it a >> thankfully i don't use it a lot, but i'm currently on the waiting list for one of the hospitals in manchester for 12 andifs hospitals in manchester for 12 and it's a 52 week wait, so no, because sometimes your illness goes while you're waiting for the for the for the appointment. >> we should make it like a more accessible thing. >> i i'm satisfied because there's a lot of hard working nurses, doctors, surgeons like you see the care they give you. and plus , i had three of my and plus, i had three of my children here and the care i received was perfect . received was perfect. >> a bit of a mixed bag. there

clearly that lady at the end, she's part of that 24% of people who are satisfied. but there are that 76% who are still saying they're not happy with the service they have been received . service they have been received. now, that third point there, it's in terms of the government thatis it's in terms of the government that is going to be really crucial as we approach this general election year to see how the parties use the nhs as that bargaining chip to try and gain people's votes. >> sophie, thanks very much indeed , and it's time now for indeed, and it's time now for our spring giveaway. we've got just a couple of days to get involved. it closes on good friday. lots on offer. there are spnng friday. lots on offer. there are spring gadgets, garden gadgets , spring gadgets, garden gadgets, there's a shopping spree and how much cash? >> the big thing, the big thing is you can keep all the rest of you all £12,345 out of a go if it was allowed. but i'm not. >> it's the final week to see how you could win big. you could win an amazing £12,345 in tax

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heard her going, i can't believe it in wings. guess what's happened. >> same dresses. now i, i this is not, anything that we plan. i'm very sorry. i was getting ready this morning. getting the kids ready for school. >> i think yours is a slightly different, darker colour. >> have you on the >> i did, i did have you on the radio, both of i'm sorry radio, both of you. i'm sorry i didn't turn the tv on this morning. i should have checked, shouldn't i? >> and amy's got a very nice. got purple tie. yes. it's got a purple tie. yes. it's easter the colour. easter amy. that's the colour. it colour. it is the colour. >> colour of brilliant, >> the colour of brilliant, brilliant priests will be wearing, heathen. wearing, you heathen. >> maybe easter sunday. >> yeah, maybe easter sunday. >> yeah, maybe easter sunday. >> like you've got some >> i like to see you've got some chocolate there, though. that's. have have some. chocolate there, though. that's. ha\so have some. chocolate there, though. that's. ha\so what have some. chocolate there, though. that's. ha\so what have you e. chocolate there, though. that's. ha\so what have you got us? >> so what have you got for us? >> so what have you got for us? >> amazing show >> we've got an amazing show this we've got an this morning. we've got an exclusive interview with esther ghey, the mother of, the deceased, young, girl deceased, poor young, trans girl , brianna, so she says some very interesting things about tech and phones and the impact that has on their life. we've got feargal sharkey talking about the waters. we've got the actor james the waters. >> he's a big campaigner and mr motivator. him? he's motivator. remember him? he's still strong. he's talking

still going strong. he's talking about why you can say to someone, you're fat, oh, is he coming in? >> yeah. you were about to eat that chocolate. >> reached for the chocolate >> i reached for the chocolate in truck at that point. in your truck at that point. >> they do look nice. yeah, that's quite lively . yeah. and that's quite lively. yeah. and of course, this abdul ezedi scandal well. how big scandal as well. how big a problem is this? if people are being undergoing a fake conversion to hang its head in shame over this man because he should have been deported. >> they going into this >> but they kept going into this tribunal saying, church, there's >> but they kept going into this triimanysaying, church, there's >> but they kept going into this triimany bitsig, church, there's >> but they kept going into this triimany bits of church, there's >> but they kept going into this triimany bits of church there's >> but they kept going into this triimany bits of church youre's >> but they kept going into this triimany bits of church you know, so many bits of church you know, this is the baptist church. >> we have the catholic church on this saying it takes on this morning saying it takes nine for us to accept nine months for us to accept somebody convert, whereas somebody as a convert, whereas this baptist did it in a shopping centre, bums on seats and talking christianity, and talking of christianity, gesture opposed to gesture eggs as opposed to easter eggs. >> what's a gesture? egg? well, that's how they're being sold in one particular shop. we're sending down there. sending somebody down there. gesture not an easter egg. because you know what? secular rather, represented any rather, this represented any other bar christianity. other religion bar christianity. >> be an outcry. we >> there'd be an outcry. we would be, we would be all, this is wonderful, this is is wonderful, and this is

tradition this is culture, tradition and this is culture, and we should pay respect all and we should pay respect to all of this. and we should pay respect to all of tbut you're christian, >> but if you're christian, nobody >> but if you're christian, notwell, there's nothing >> well, there's nothing particularly christian about an egg. >> no, it's a symbol of resurrection, of new life. yes right. okay. >> that's what about. >> that's what it's about. >> that's what it's about. >> m&s chocolate kitten . yeah. >> that i bought the egg is very traditional and in orthodox they painted the eggs too. so no it's a very traditional part of easter. >> all right. fair enough. >> all right. fair enough. >> isn't it about the rock that was from the anyway. was rolled from the anyway. yeah. boulder. thank you . yeah. the boulder. thank you. >> well, but it's new life. new life. >> it's new life. >> it's a new life. >>— >> it's a new life. >> a sunday school for you. >> a sunday school for you. >> right. we'll educating >> right. we'll be educating ourselves easter matters. ourselves on why easter matters. it it's important. ourselves on why easter matters. itlove it's important. ourselves on why easter matters. itlove easter it's important. ourselves on why easter matters. itlove easter bigger mportant. ourselves on why easter matters. itlove easter bigger thantant. i love easter bigger than christmas the christian christmas in the christian calendar. house. sometimes calendar. in my house. sometimes we levin. we love angela levin. >> she's to be here after >> she's going to be here after the break, talking all things royal the news. royal letter making the news. prince the front prince harry is on the front page prince harry is on the front page of the sun today. find out why after this. >> 2020 for a battleground year, the year the nation decides as the year the nation decides as the parties gear up their

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channel. >> prince harry, all over the front of the sun newspaper. this morning. you, like me, might have skipped a beat when you saw the headline. harry named in p.diddy sex traffic case. but angela levin is here for once, perhaps to stick up for the prince because he's not done anything wrong. >> no he hasn't. i mean, i'm quite ready give him quite ready to give him a telling because i wrote his telling off because i wrote his biography. i feel i'm entitled to do but this is not to do that. but this is not really a story, he went to , to,

really a story, he went to, to, listen to a concert for his put on for his late mother. she'd been alive . she would have been been alive. she would have been 36 years old, and he went there and enjoyed the concert. but he had never gone to anything else. he'd never gone to a party, not met a man again. and so i think it's really unfair to actually attack him, to see his name in a headune attack him, to see his name in a headline linked to a sex traffic case is alarming, andrew. well, yeah, that's the thing you do . yeah, that's the thing you do. and i think it's really not fair. so i'm sticking up for him. well there you go. >> you and meghan on the same side. and you can talk about prince philip for us this morning. the late prince philip. he'd been remembered in an interesting way. >> yes. very interesting way. they put a statue without permission up in cambridge, cambridge to celebrate 35 years of him being working as a senior person at cambridge. >> sounds good and so far so

good. >> the council have said that it's the worst piece of art they've ever seen, and if you look at it, he doesn't have a face you wouldn't recognise him, he just doesn't have a face. now they're going to take it down. it went up in 2014. >> well , why it went up in 2014. >> well, why has it taken ten years if it hadn't got permission, why has it been allowed to stand? >> because you cannot listen. and until they say you now must take it down, you don't have to listen in the first round. it's a bit like boxing . a bit like boxing. >> well, the fact that it doesn't have a face, i mean , doesn't have a face, i mean, perhaps as long as you read a plaque or something that tells you it's paying tribute to his contribution to the royal family, does it need to be torn down? >> well , they decided they >> well, they decided they wanted to do this. it cost 150, £15,000, £115,000 to put up in bronze. but the artist, i think they know who it is. but he's denied it, so no one will say that they actually did it . yeah,

that they actually did it. yeah, they got the money and left it, but i've never seen anything so hideous myself. actually, it's a great shame. >> so would there be no, no statue to replace it? well no, not at the moment. >> but i think that people should say that he should have a statue. a remarkable man , highly respected. >> in what ways? >> in what ways? >> in what ways? >> i mean, i always thought he looked the part. he acted the part, but he was very indiscreet, off camera and on camera , sometimes camera, i miss it. >> i think some of that was left over from his very, very difficult childhood , and he had difficult childhood, and he had to make an impact wherever he went . went. >> his mother was fascinating. yeah. tell us about a nun. she was. she was a nun. she became a nun.and was. she was a nun. she became a nun. and there were there were big questions with her, mental state of mind. >> because in that time, i think if somebody was so devout as she wanted to be. and so, careful of what she said and what she did, they would put them into a place where they put people with very, very bad mental health issues,

and it took a long time to get her out. now, when you look at it, you think that's absolutely appalling. but prince philip, he was sleeping on couches and was just sleeping on couches and members of the family, he had no family at all. his father wasn't interested in went off. so the fact that he had an incredibly satisfied life with the queen, is extraordinary . is extraordinary. >> i was thinking of him at the weekend. i was on a walk with with the family, and we saw a group of schoolgirls out with their backpacks and their compasses and their maps, clearly embarking on their duke of edinburgh hadn't of edinburgh awards. hadn't slept looking slept all weekend. looking pretty to said, slept all weekend. looking pretthat to said, slept all weekend. looking pretthat legacy to said, slept all weekend. looking pretthat legacy carries said, but that legacy carries on children down the children up and down the country, out about, enjoying country, out and about, enjoying british countryside, testing themselves to the limit things he believed in. and that he really believed in. and that goes on, you know, after he's gone. >> yes. i mean, it is brilliant. he's actually made a life for so many young people who come from poor homes, who actually don't get involved in groups and learn how to work together with people . and now, of course, the new

duke of edinburgh is in charge of that. and it's doing very well. and i think for children to learn sport and to learn how to learn sport and to learn how to work together and the importance of actually being healthy , he. it's all from him. healthy, he. it's all from him. >> where did he where did he crash his range rover sandringham? no. yes. yeah. so he said to me, he said to me, oh, a lot of people talking about this climate warming, this, this climate change thing going on. bloody marvellous. and i says, well why sir, i said the gross we're getting at sandringham, so much more gross as a result. >> are typical him. i think that's it. he's a wonderful reader and this is one of the things that aligned him with queen camilla. because he didn't like her. he wouldn't have anything to do with her at the beginning because she wasn't a virgin. he was a big fan of diana's, wasn't he as well? >> yes. >> yes. >> and they started to talk >> yes. >> an books started to talk >> yes. >> an books and ted to talk >> yes. >> an books and ted treally about books and that really broke difference between him broke the difference between him not having a relationship with her them getting on

her and them getting on extremely well because they both loved reading such a lot. >> you know, you can tell you're an author, angela, because you've been a really good flag bearer today for books for and reading. it's great to hear sort of not very trendy anymore, but a good weekend think about a good weekend to think about it. a good weekend to think about h. good a good weekend to think about it. good weekend for reading. it. a good weekend for reading. you hands you can always get our hands on your harry autobiography you can always get our hands on yo biographyiarry autobiography you can always get our hands on yo biography if'ry autobiography you can always get our hands on yo biography if we iutobiography you can always get our hands on yo biography if we want.igraphy or biography if we want. >> yeah, or camilla's or camilla's, of course. what about that very good, andrew. >> but unfortunately , we got to >> but unfortunately, we got to say goodbye to you now, angela. thank you very much indeed. lovely talking to you throughout the morning. the program this morning. appreciateyou. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> that's it from us for this week. have a wonderful easter. whatever breakfast whatever you're doing. breakfast we'll tomorrow we'll be back though tomorrow from next is, of from 6:00. and up next it is, of course, britain's newsroom with andrew bev in our matching. andrew and bevin our matching. >> you're for the >> whatever you're doing for the rest the day, have good rest of the day, have a good one. bye bye bye. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar , sponsors of weather on . solar, sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello there. welcome to your

latest gb news weather. low pressure continues to dominate the weather pattern through today. further spells of rain, heavy showers , blustery winds heavy showers, blustery winds over the next few days as well. so looking at the bigger picture , we do have rain across northern and western parts of the uk this morning. some localised possible localised flooding possible across northern localised flooding possible across in northern localised flooding possible across in particularern localised flooding possible across in particular as the ireland, in particular as the heavy rain from overnight slowly clears. some bright spells developing move into the developing as we move into the afternoon. this will trigger afternoon. but this will trigger some showers with some heavy thundery showers with some heavy thundery showers with some possible with brisk some hail possible with brisk southerly winds. it will feel quite chilly in the south and the west. here. highs of 11 or 12 celsius in any brighter skies we could see highs of 13 or 14 in a few sheltered spots into the evening time. further heavy showers pushed northwards across the country, these merging into some longer spells of rain and then during the early hours, this batch of wet weather moves into central southern parts of england be heavy england and wales could be heavy at so a cloudy night here at times. so a cloudy night here but clearing skies across northern ireland and scotland. a touch frost and some fog here touch of frost and some fog here as temperatures fall close to, touch of frost and some fog here asnotnperatures fall close to,

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gb news. >> good morning. 930 on wednesday, the 27th of march. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> so this morning, speaking exclusively to britain's newsroom, mother of murdered transgender teen brianna ghey jai told us that she believes

child safe phones would have saved her daughter's life. it feels like such a waste of life and if i can make things better for all the young people , then, for all the young people, then, then i'll keep working in order to do that. >> don't miss that interview. very powerful . and the home very powerful. and the home office has accused the church of undermining the asylum system system after accepting the clapham chemical attacker, abdul ezedi faith conversion was genuine, even though he failed a christianity test and he was a convicted sexual offender, and britain's sewage scandal sewage has spilt to a record high last yean >> this needs sorting out. we're going to be talking to two prominent campaigners, actor james murray and former pop star feargal sharkey. this morning . feargal sharkey. this morning. >> murray, of course, is in the crown and the conservatives, well, they're in crisis. rishi sunak another little mini reshuffle after the departure of two government ministers. another they're on the

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