think tank policy the right wing think tank policy exchange, and its plans to decarbonise the grid by 2030 could cost you a whopping £116 billion. and this is why they want to move you on to smart metres to make you pay more. new damning revelations about the clapham chemical attacker and asylum seeker abdul ezedi have come to light. the supposed christian convert needed a chaperone in church as he wasn't deemed to be safe enough to be left alone following his conviction for sexual assault. so why did the church vouch for his asylum application? the outdated funding model of the pubuc outdated funding model of the public service broadcaster, the eu loving bbc, is set to consider a wealth tax to pay for its increasingly biased programming . but when will the programming. but when will the bbc get to grips with the free market and face the consequences of its decisions? i will be breaking my silence on the garrick club membership row, as four more old women resign from the men only members club . but the men only members club. but if you're concerned about this tradition of men only membership , why not for left wing

activists formerly of bbc, activists formerly of the bbc, jon has joined to work for jon sopel has joined to work for change from the inside. plus a farmer who was part of yesterday's demonstrations has dnven yesterday's demonstrations has driven all the way to westminster in his seven ton tractor to discuss the benefits of our farming industry. state of our farming industry. state of the starts now of the nation starts now. to be joined by my most theatrical panel barrister and former conservative mp jerry hayes, and the author and journalist michael crick. as always, i want to hear from you. it's a crucial part of the programme. email me mailmogg@gbnews.com. but now it's of the it's your favourite part of the day. the news with polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> jacob. thank you. good evening . first, let's update you evening. first, let's update you on the developments from the united states and baltimore in particular, where president biden has pledged full federal support to the city in the bndge support to the city in the bridge rescue operation there.

video footage captured the moment a freight ship stacked high with containers crashed into the francis scott key bridge at around 130 this morning, local time. that collision plunging cars and their drivers and construction workers into the water below with no warning at all. we now know that the vessel involved in today's crash was reported to have a structural issue in 2016, and was also involved in a separate accident when it hit a port wall in belgium. let's show you the scene live in baltimore right now, where six construction workers remain unaccounted for. the governor of maryland has been speaking to reporters in the last half hour. he says it's still very much an active search and rescue mission, and there is not a single resource that we will hold off on deploying. >> i have already authorised the deployment of everything from air, land and sea resources to make sure that this search and rescue operation is carried out

to its fullest intent was more now news here at home. >> a mini reshuffle has taken place in downing street today following the departure from government of james heappey and robert halfon. we've heard tonight that ngannou becomes minister for europe. leo docherty is minister for the armed forces . kevin hollinrake armed forces. kevin hollinrake moves to be minister for business trade , luke hall business and trade, luke hall takes education and alan mak becomes under—secretary of state in business and trade and the cabinet office. now the chemical attack suspect abdul ezedi was granted asylum in the uk by a judge despite concerns the sex offender was a liar with a criminal past. a range of previously confidential documents have shown today, for the first time, the lengths that a ezedi went to prove he was a christian convert. his body was pulled from the river thames last month amid a major manhunt after he was suspected of dousing his ex—girlfriend with a corrosive chemical. britain and china britain and the united states, rather have accused

china of carrying out a global campaign of malicious cyber attacks. it's an unprecedented move, with britain publicly blaming china for targeting the electoral commission yesterday and the email accounts of peers and the email accounts of peers and mps . british intelligence and mps. british intelligence services believe that chinese spies are likely to use hacked information to target critics of xi jinping's government. the united states charged seven of the alleged hackers yesterday . the alleged hackers yesterday. and finally, a former british museum curator has been ordered by the high court to return stolen artefacts within four weeks. doctor peter higgs , who weeks. doctor peter higgs, who was dismissed for misconduct, faces allegations of theft and damage to over 1800 historical items, accusations he denies. the courts also ordered mr higgs to disclose records from his ebay and paypal accounts , ebay and paypal accounts, following claims he listed hundreds of the stolen items for sale online. that's the news.

for the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts, scan the qr code on the screen right now or go to gb news. common alerts. >> as we've discussed in recent weeks, the matter of grid decarbonisation is becoming of increasing political importance as the two main political parties take different positions on the matter. under the labour party's plans, it proposes entirely to decarbonise the grid by 2030. just six years time . by 2030. in just six years time. in practice, this means drastically reducing our reliance on gas power and other sources of non—renewable energy. but how this is achievable is unclear because the grid currently operates with gas power stations used as a backup when the isn't blowing and when the wind isn't blowing and when the wind isn't blowing and when the wind isn't blowing and when the sun isn't shining. if the to be decarbonised the grid were to be decarbonised by 2030, what will do in by 2030, what will we do in these frequent instances when these frequent instances when the sun and wind cannot be relied upon ? the conservative relied upon? the conservative plan isn't much better, as it proposes decarbonising by 2035,

although this gives a little more time for the development of carbon capture and energy storage technology . the storage technology. the questions for the labour plan apply questions for the labour plan apply very much to the conservative plan to. that's why i believe we should abandon the policy indefinite postpone policy and indefinite postpone net zero. but exchange's net zero. but policy exchange's new report has cast even more doubt on the overall structure . doubt on the overall structure. the report has estimated that the conservative plan for 2035 would cost about £105 billion, which is clearly unaffordable, while the cost of living is high. as well as the tax burden at almost record levels. but more importantly, the labour plan is estimated to cost an additional £116 billion of your money over the next 11 years. about 15 billion a year more. and what is even more damning than this is that the report has said that even if labour could acquire the additional funds, which would be from you, by taxing you even more, the project unfeasible owing to project is unfeasible owing to supply chain constraints, lead times skills shortages. so times and skills shortages. so when the shadow climate change

secretary and famous bacon sandwich eater ed miliband doubled down on the plan earlier this month , he was ignoring this month, he was ignoring reality. this news coincided reality. this news has coincided with the fact that ofcom has announced plans to remove the current electricity price cap system and replace it with a variable cap. ofgem, of course not ofcom. in other words , not ofcom. in other words, everything you've been told about smart metres is not true even when they work, which apparently 4 million of them do not. while you were led to believe that they were there to help you manage your money, in reality they are being introduced to implement a surge pricing system to cost you more. so instead of the grid doing what it ought to providing what it ought to do, providing greater supply demand greater supply when demand increases, instead it will push pnces increases, instead it will push prices up to reduce demand and why will it do this? because when the grid is decarbonised, we will not be able to meet peak demand we'll relying demand because we'll be relying on solar wind, which are on solar and wind, which are unreliable. uk's energy infrastructure is being engulfed by the net zero utopia, but the role of the government is to make people's lives easier and

more affordable. and only when we break free from this fantasy world will we be able to provide cheap energy as united states, india and china as ever. let india and china do as ever. let me know your thoughts. mailmogg@gbnews.com well, i'm very pleased now to be joined by bob ward policy and communications director of the grantham research institute on climate change and the environment at the london school of economics . thank you very of economics. thank you very much for coming in. hello. these plans just aren't realistic, are they? there isn't £116 billion around at the moment, and if there were, we should be spending it on defence when we've got a threat from russia and china and iran. >> well , these numbers are >> well, these numbers are investments mostly paid for by the private sector that will generate jobs and growth . and we generate jobs and growth. and we have a great problem with a lack of investment in this country. but let's remember why we're doing it. these investments will reduce our dependence on fossil fuels . and fossil fuels are fuels. and fossil fuels are costing us huge amounts. the entity energy price guarantee

and the other policies that you introduced as energy minister to protect consumers, rightly against the surging price of natural gas costs. the british taxpayer £78 billion, £78 billion of british taxpayer subsidy that went directly into the pockets of energy companies you clawed half back through. that was a half back through the windfall tax. >> that was a self—inflicted cost because we haven't had fracking to get cheap gas out of the ground in the uk, we decided that we would have this mad environmentalist that environmentalist policy. that means maximising our means we weren't maximising our fossil and we fossil fuel resources, and we therefore allowed ourselves to become dependent russia. become dependent on russia. that was predictable series was entirely predictable series of policy mistakes made because of policy mistakes made because of the green obsession. >> well, maximising the, oil and gas in the north sea is actually in law. so it is part of government policy , which is not government policy, which is not not the truth is, fracking is great opportunity . great opportunity. >> and we get fracked gas from

the united states instead of doing it ourselves, which would be much cheaper and more environmentally friendly. >> i mean, you fracking >> i mean, you know, fracking around country , people have around the country, people have made views known. but the made their, views known. but the important thing is that any oil and gas that we produce in the in the uk, either in the north sea or online, is sold on international markets. the oil and gas that we the gas that we were buying during the cost of living crisis included british gas. so it doesn't reduce our bill does. >> of course it does because pricing is set at the margin. so if supply is increased even when demand increases, that supply means that the overall price is lower. that's just the basics of supply and demand. >> no i'm sorry jacob, you misunderstand the impact of the war for the invasion of ukraine by russia drastically reduced the amount of gas. there's nowhere near enough gas in the uk to restore all those levels of supply. it's just not true. >> are set by total supply and

total demand. if we increase our supply that has effect on international prices, it does is lower for everybody. >> we have a minuscule amount of gas. it makes no difference. of course it makes a difference. >> there's a simple misunderstanding, a simple misunderstanding, a simple misunderstanding of economics, particularly with gas, which either has to be transported or burnt off. >> so why didn't we reduce the price of gas during the cost of living crisis? jacob. >> the price of gas came down as supply came on. no it didn't. >> the price went up. you had to protect consumers by spending £78 billion to supply came on. >> extra supply on >> extra supply came on from texas. qatar. texas. it came on from qatar. increased supply saw the price come down. they have lots of gas , but we don't have anywhere near that. >> we do. in fact, it no, we really don't. >> the fundamental point you're missing and all the people who've made this argument are missing, is that all pricing is set the margin. so if set at the margin. so if i understand how it works , jacob, understand how it works, jacob, if have a cubic foot extra if you have a cubic foot extra of gas, price comes down. if of gas, the price comes down. if you have a cubic foot too

little, the price goes up. therefore, marginal is therefore, marginal supply is crucially to any crucially important to any pricing mechanism. >> it is. however, if you use supply by 38 billion tons and you replace it with 300 million tons, you do not restore the level of pricing. >> yes, but if we had simply not had been fracking, we would have had been fracking, we would have had a much higher base to start with. >> we don't we really don't have that much. and even if you could persuade your your constituents that you're happy to have them have it fracked in their back garden, they would it won't make any difference. it there's no economist tell you that economist who will tell you that we have enough to produce. >> made a global price >> it has made a global price difference in the united states where fracking both where their fracking has both reduced their and reduced their emissions and reduced their emissions and reduced of energy . okay. >> tell us, tell me how much you think the global price of gas has been reduced by british gas over the past two years, at a time when we've had to subsidise british, we haven't been british. consumers have been subsidised by £78 billion, and

market forces have worked because places like the us and qatar have brought on masses of new supply, we are still prices have come down. indeed indeed we've increased. you increase supply by. >> we started producers. we're not a big where are we getting this £116 billion. >> okay. so let's talk about investment . so remember this is investment. so remember this is an investment is a new labour word for spending. no no no investment spent investment is something that you're the charleton get it charleton will people get it is investment is honest word. >> it's a dishonest word because investment is when you put money investment is when you put money in the bank and get interest on it. it's not if you spend money. >> let me give you an example of an investment. investment an investment. an investment could be something like spending money gas boilers money on replacing gas boilers with pumps. with heat pumps. >> heat . >> the heat. >> the heat. >> hold on. let me let me explain. it's an investment because the return is you do not then play. i watering prices for natural gas. natural gas prices come right down. that's an investment because you save money spending 30 save money, you're spending £13,000. >> rather than £3,000.

>> rather than £3,000. >> you save the taxpayer £78 billion that you spent on a price guarantee point you as my investment manager because i go bankrupt within weeks. >> if you think spending £10,000 extra is an investment, >> if you think spending £10,000 extra is an investment , jacob, extra is an investment, jacob, you spent the £78 billion that went into the pocket of energy because we had this absurd obsession with green energy. when we've got plenty. >> it wasn't. it went to the oil and gas companies. >> jacob, if we hadn't closed down our coal powered electricity stations, we would have had that resource for energy. we would have had our own gas resources from fracking. and it's the green obsession that has put prices up . that has put prices up. >> so you you want to go back to the 1950s when we were my constituents , to be sure your constituents, to be sure your constituents, to be sure your constituents don't want i don't want climate change. and they don't want i don't want them both of which is done by coal. >> and we make no difference. 1% of emissions. >> thank you very much, bob, because we've got to end. >> coming up, defining proof has

emerged the bbc a emerged that the bbc is a socialist operation. wants to socialist operation. it wants to bnng socialist operation. it wants to bring wealth tax. plus, bring in a wealth tax. plus, don't forget a farmer driven don't forget a farmer has driven to westminster in his seven ton tractor to discuss the difficulties farmers

well, we've been discussing net zero fantasies. and your male mogs have been getting rid of hot air and coming through with good sense. colin says don't forget, labour's net zero plans are forecast to cost £190 billion, just like hs2 was for cost. cost a sum that's now multiplied exponentially . net multiplied exponentially. net zero is for the birds and is not a priority for the british people. mike. the ambition to achieve decarbonisation is all very well, but the time scale is unrealistic. and david jacob, why have we got to be carbon neutral? what's the point when china and india are still building more coal fired power stations? so a few weeks ago we

discussed the instance of false christian conversions of asylum seekers . one of the key examples seekers. one of the key examples of this was the case of abdul ezedl of this was the case of abdul ezedi, the clapham chemical attacker who had a history of sexual offences . well, now, sexual offences. well, now, revelations from court documents this afternoon show that ezedi had been forced to be effectively escorted in and out of church services because he was deemed unsafe in light of his sexual assault conviction. and it was eight months after this conviction that a reverend at the church signed a letter vouching for his conversion. it was submitted to his asylum heanng was submitted to his asylum hearing and it read, i hope that this information will of this information will be of assistance and support assistance and i would support his application to remain in this country. it appears this reverend has much to answer for. if ezedi was deemed so unsafe that he couldn't be left alone in church, made the in church, what made the reverend he was safe reverend think he was safe enough be granted asylum? enough to be granted asylum? well, is my well, with me now is my distinguished panel and theatrical jerry hayes distinguished panel and theamichael jerry hayes distinguished panel and thea michael crick arry hayes distinguished panel and theamichael crick .'ry hayes distinguished panel and theamichael crick . michael, this and michael crick. michael, this is a very odd story, isn't it, that the judge had this evidence before him and believed that in

spite of his criminal convictions, he was probably telling the truth? it's pretty naive, isn't it ? naive, isn't it? >> i think it reflects very badly on the judge and the reverend that vouched for him. i mean , i, i don't see any way of mean, i, i don't see any way of defending them, frankly. and so i'm not going to i mean, this man, was a menace to society , as man, was a menace to society, as we've seen many times over , and we've seen many times over, and there was an element of gullibility by both the church and the judicial system. and i think the people can people involved should be deeply, deeply ashamed of themselves and deeply ashamed of themselves and deeply worried as to why they were so gullible and indeed should be asking themselves, are they fit to carry on in the offices they now hold? >> do you think it shows deeper problems within the immigration service, this is service, or that this is something that happens very rarely, and that we get a disproportionate focus on errors when they have tragic consequences ? consequences? >> well, there are there is clearly a problem with people coming to this country and

seeking asylum and, and who are may be thinking may, may have come from countries where christians are persecuted and therefore may be, i think just given the numbers of conversions, you know, there are there are people exploiting the system and there's no conversion at all. >> jerry, do you worry when you get cases like this, there's always the temptation to go off in other direction. it's in the other direction. it's very hard to defend what's happened here. but this happened here. but will this lead people who have lead to people who have genuinely converted and genuinely converted and genuinely persecution if genuinely faced persecution if they being in more difficulties? >> it's up to the judges. i don't know too much about this case. >> what i've read in the papers, and i always think it's unwise to comment on that sort of thing, but can tell you as thing, but i can tell you as a generality, i have prosecuted a whole load of scams. whereas various vicars from various churches have been making money out . out of this. >> and this isn't new in its way, is it? because you go back 20 years, there were vicars who

were involved in false marriages and on. exactly. and that and so on. exactly. and that whenever there a system, whenever there is a system, there will who will seek there will people who will seek to get round it. absolutely. and that's hope we can rely that's where we hope we can rely on the judges, is why it on the judges, which is why it seems so, much of seems so, so, so much of a failure that the judge knew this man was a sex offender and then goes on to say, but i believe his conversion is genuine. >> i just it extraordinary. >> i just find it extraordinary. actually, i haven't read the papers. the newspapers papers. i've read the newspapers and i've listened to what was said here. so don't know said here. so i don't know exactly what's what's happened, but i do. >> but you're a criminal barrister, so see people in barrister, so you see people in this world. yes. and what reaction would you have had in these circumstances with your experience of the criminal law? >> i would have been surprised and just think, why did the judge make that decision? and we don't know why he might made that decision. decision. because we haven't got the full details. i don't think it's a breakdown of the criminal law . it may be a of the criminal law. it may be a breakdown in the clergy , not breakdown in the clergy, not this particular clergyman, but i've prosecuted so many cases

where people have actually been illegally bringing people into the country and doing these ceremonies for money, for money thatis ceremonies for money, for money that is wrong. that is wrong. >> i mean, i don't know, gerry, but would the judge in this case have been a criminal barrister by background or a or a sorry, a civil barrister by background because he would have been an immigration guy, right? >> mean, i would thought >> i mean, i would have thought that a while immigration that after a while immigration people would, get people would, would, would get to system and how it's to know the system and how it's worked. to know the system and how it's worbut suppose the other >> but i suppose the other concern that somebody gets concern is that somebody gets deported back to their home country something terrible country and something terrible happens to them. yeah. >> it is difficult , happens to them. yeah. >> it is difficult, but >> it is it is difficult, but let's go on to the eu loving bbc because its director general, tim davie, earlier today signalled the intent of the pubuc signalled the intent of the public service broadcaster to consider what is effectively a wealth tax for the television tax. the tax itself is set to increase by £10.50 from monday to £169.50, after a two year freeze. however, mr davie addressed a group of broadcasting chiefs today in

which he said that funding reform is necessary . and while reform is necessary. and while he's right that reform is necessary, implementing a so—called progressive system of the tax really the television tax is really showing how to touch the corporation is we've moved well past the days of forcing people to pay it compulsorily. it's to pay for it compulsorily. it's time feels the wrath of the free market and gets in line with other subscription and ad based services. well back to my pal gerry. the licence fee . the gerry. the licence fee. the television tax has passed its sell by date. surely >> pause there. your dad was an excellent chairman of the governance of the bbc because he believed in quality. no, no, no. >> in the 1980s. >> in the 1980s. >> in the 1980s. >> it's very different. >> it's very different. >> there is still impartiality, there is still quality . however, there is still quality. however, things are moving on. i don't i'm not part of this movement who believe they're terribly biased one way or the other. i don't think they are. i think they do their best sometimes they do their best sometimes they get it horribly wrong. but there are different platforms. there are different people who look media in different

look at their media in different ways. so i think in five years time, the bbc licence fee is going to be redundant. >> michael, i'm actually more sympathetic to the bbc, than because if your dad was vice chairman, wasn't he? >> not chairman. yeah vice chairman. >> he was chairman was vice chairman, but he was actually acting chairman for extended penods acting chairman for extended periods for various reasons. but we don't need to go into that. the for the bbc that the problem for the bbc is that the television tax licence fee has harmed it, its revenue has harmed it, that its revenue has harmed it, that its revenue has been, in real terms, pretty static for 20, 30 years, whereas other people, sky netflix, which didn't exist, have been able to grow their revenue into the trillions and become bigger than the bbc, and that if the bbc had freedom to raise revenue, it could be a world beating organisation . rather than organisation. rather than sinking into becoming a small national player. >> it could, but there's an element of risk in investments like that and we would be criticising. i mean , if the bbc criticising. i mean, if the bbc had invested in all sorts of

dramas that turned out to be flops, we would no doubt be discussing that so that that is one problem. i and i agree with gerry, that in the long term the licence fee won't survive, but i think that this is actually a very good proposal. in the interim, while we sort out what the future funding method is, 5 or 10 years, and it is unfair that middle class people, wealthy people and wealthy people , some of whom are middle people, some of whom are middle class, are paying are . the bbc class, are paying are. the bbc is probably watched by them more than it's watched by poor working class 100,000. the same amount doesn't take us. >> but then you then difficult one. >> well, first of all, should the bbc know people's income, which i think would be ridiculous and secondly, we can watch itv for free and thirdly, we can watch sky for a subscription that there's absolutely no reason to say that it should be done on a tax basis. i hardly ever watch the bbc. >> well, i think you probably watch it or listen to it more often than you might listen a

bit to radio four. >> i very rarely watch the bbc. >> i very rarely watch the bbc. >> well, the bbc still has very good listening and viewing figures. yeah it does, but they're declining an amazing range output and actually the range of output and actually the licence fee of 160, what is it, 69, 69 is extremely good value if you compare it, say, with what people are prepared to pay for football on sky or other or other channels that show football or netflix or netflix or now channel netflix i pay 5.99 a month. yes, but you're only getting you're only. you're only getting you're only. you're only getting you're only. you're only getting films for that, or you're only getting entertainment. you're not getting for that. getting the news for that. you're not you're getting you're not you're not getting sport gb news. sport free on gb news. >> a much better. oh. >> it's a much better. oh. >> it's a much better. oh. >> do you? i thought you weren't a channel. not a news channel. not >> we get polly middlehurst reading the i news reading the news. i get my news from polly. >> it is good value and >> but no, it is good value and i support broadly the bbc. it's got, you know, it can be wasteful from time to time. and in the long term, the licence fee won't survive. but this is, this is a fairer system. i suppose one way of doing it is

saying anybody who pays, you know, the higher rate of tax, for instance, has to pay a higher rate licence. i mean, higher rate of licence. i mean, there already a means test in there is already a means test in that jerry isn't quite that people, jerry isn't quite in this category over the age of 75. they get it for free. >> absolutely monstrous. it's like should pay more like saying you should pay more for milk because for a pint of milk because you've got an income above x. this is rank socialism . you just this is rank socialism. you just you described it as a tax. you just described it as a tax. >> therefore you should think >> so therefore you should think it's fair. i you know, and it's fair. i mean, you know, and actually this is a model in a way for one way the next way for what one way the next labour government might raise a bit more money. compulsory tax from , from the council tax with from, from the council tax with extra votes. >> so jacob, are you >> so jacob, what are you saying? are you saying yes, we shouldn't have. >> i'm saying the bbc should go for adverts subscription , for adverts subscription, product placement, the works. yes. and so in other words, chasing audiences, chasing what it does anyway. surely gb news player is a brilliant service and people should pay for it. >> why? >> why? >> well, because otherwise it's a tax netflix . a tax netflix. >> but netflix i mean, gosh,

what do we pay £60 a month? something like that. >> i don't, i pay 5.99 for 599. ihave >> i don't, i pay 5.99 for 599. i have the minimum payment should be prosecuted. i think it's 699 now, isn't it? >> but anyway , 65.99 thank you >> but anyway, 65.99 thank you to my panel coming up. >> i will finally be breaking my silence on the question of the garrick club and its men only membership as four old women resign as members . plus, a resign as members. plus, a farmer has driven to westminster in his to debate the in his tractor to debate the pros cons of free trade with pros and cons of free trade with me. i only hope he doesn't me. i can only hope he doesn't take me for a ride. boom boom.

well, you've been firing in your mailbox. we've been discussing abdul ezedi and the bbc on the bbc, brian says. when will the bbc, brian says. when will the bbc be made responsible for its decisions? well, jacob, that's down to you and your colleagues . down to you and your colleagues. and on ezedi, alison says, will the that this horrific the lady that this horrific person attacked have any recourse the church as recourse against the church as

it the church who it was the church who authenticated and is authenticated him? and that is small. c c for church because i'm not entirely sure which church it is. it's not holy mother, and it's not the anglican church. now it's time to break my silence on the garrick club affair . as you may garrick club affair. as you may have guessed, i am in fact a member of the garrick club, which has been in the news recently, mainly for the fact that its membership list has been exposed, many being been exposed, with many being criticised for their membership of a men's only club. but some news from morning seems to news from this morning seems to refute seems, at least refute this seems, at least according the picture, that according to the picture, that four old women resigned four old women have resigned from club, possibly possibly from the club, possibly possibly under from the lord from the club, possibly possibly underjustice, from the lord from the club, possibly possibly underjustice, ladyn the lord from the club, possibly possibly underjustice, lady sukh lord from the club, possibly possibly underjustice, lady sukh padda, chief justice, lady sukh padda, who has shown the leftie tendencies of baroness hale , tendencies of baroness hale, formerly president of the supreme court, by raising the dread words of diversity and inclusion relation garrick inclusion in relation to garrick club membership, a surprisingly political intervention from a senior judge. political intervention from a seniorjudge. anyway, political intervention from a senior judge. anyway, joking apart for a moment, the whole debacle has posed a serious societal question about whether such spaces should exist at all. personally, i think they should .

personally, i think they should. i enjoy being a member of the garrick, but some, like the left wing activist john sopel, formerly the bbc, have taken formerly of the bbc, have taken the brave and bold decision to join the club and to reform join the club and work to reform it inside. joined it from the inside. i'm joined now my panel barrister and now by my panel barrister and garrick club member gerry hayes. you can tell from the tide that he's wearing. he's regularly in the garrick, probably more often than courtroom and the journalist the author journalist wicked. the author and journalist sue michael crick. michael, it seems to me that the club's people belong to isn't a really important matter, that if they like the society, the club, that's up to them. >> but if you take the case of the what you described as the four old women and by the by the way, you're going to be in trouble on two fronts, from that, from the feminist movement and from the legal authorities. i hope, the judges are required to show independence, to not show bias or favour when it comes to important issues like this and the, you know, the united states, for instance,

cracked down on, senior figures belonging to clubs that excluded black people many years ago. and i think that this is it's quite right that those judges should it's quite political in that case. >> in which case should the lord chief justice have intervened because she's meant to be political? >> if they maintain their membership, they're membership, because they're because showing that because they are showing that they to go, if they were they favour to go, if they were at all male schools to reunion of school. well, you could of their school. well, you could say that they went to those schools as a result of decisions made by their parents. >> if they belong to >> what if they belong to a rugby that meets twice rugby team that meets twice a year for a rugby reunion? >> it's been accepted that we have that the sexes are separated in sport like rugby. so we don't yet have mixed rugby teams of a club for 40 years. >> that has not allowed women in suddenly that's different. i just don't see the logic of that. >> i think actually they going back to the school's point, if they sent their own children to a male only or a girls only school , i

a male only or a girls only school, i think a male only or a girls only school , i think that would be school, i think that would be questionable. but i don't think it's as questionable as an institution like the like the garrick club. >> if the lord chief justice belongs to the women's institute, should resign? institute, should she resign? >> probably. okay. >> probably. okay. >> it's an extreme view >> it's quite an extreme view that michael's giving us. well, of course it is. >> it's totally nonsense. and he. and knows it's totally. he. and he knows it's totally. he knows it. yeah. of course he doesn't know. >> it's nonsense. >> it's nonsense. >> end of the day, the >> at the end of the day, the women's our own women's institute need our own spaces , and women their own spaces, and women need their own spaces. forget, there are spaces. don't forget, there are nine female only in nine female only clubs in london. is there a clamouring to go and join from men ? of course go and join from men? of course there is. >> i suppose the argument is that men go in there and network and stitch things up. but they don't, do they? >> they don't. oh, i wish we could. no. oh no, it'd be so good, wouldn't it, if we could. but this is the whole thing women are saying, certain women saying, oh, we're missing out in networking. if you are were eligible the garrick and you eligible for the garrick and you were a networker, you wouldn't get in. if you were trying to do career opportunities, you wouldn't get in. they just

misunderstand the whole thing. >> people do try try to network in these clubs. i've seen it happen and they are very much looked askance at. they are not the sort of people who want to come off it. >> you mean if you network subtly, that's allowed ? no no no subtly, that's allowed? no no no no no no no no no. [10 [10 [10 [10 [10 ho. no no no no no no. >> it just isn't what these clubs about. most clubs clubs are about. and most clubs specifically prohibit business papers. discussion of papers. the discussion of business particularly papers. the discussion of bus garrick particularly papers. the discussion of bus garrick . particularly papers. the discussion of bus garrick . yes, particularly papers. the discussion of bus garrick . yes, but:icularly papers. the discussion of bus garrick . yes, but butarly papers. the discussion of bus garrick . yes, but but other the garrick. yes, but but other other of the clubs. yes. >> but you know, networking involves getting know people involves getting to know people doesn't you may not discuss business at all on the premises or bring out your papers, but the very fact that you get to know each other, that can prove useful times. >> join the garrick. you don't need to know now. >> i mean, if you take one of these judges, for instance, supposing one of these judges had had to sit in court on a case involving sexual discrimination or alleged sexual discrimination, a civil case, or maybe a criminal case, the fact that they had belonged to the garrick club would undermine their authority and

independence. a judge , i'll independence. as a judge, i'll tell you, as a matter of law. >> and it would cost you 100 guineas. now, the and that is the sex clubs, including the same sex clubs, including women, same sex clubs are excluded from the equalities act. >> well they shouldn't be. well they are , but that's the law. they are, but that's the law. we're not here judging. yes, but that's undermined because if you were the party in that case, a woman. let's go back. in that case, chief justice, you would feel aggrieved whether it was the law or this lady has become lord chief justice intervening, because that seems me because that seems to me a political intervention , and she political intervention, and she should be above politics and saying she's wants diversity and inclusion is a political statement that is a political slogan of the left. well, occasionally judges do make political judgements like that, but that's very dangerous because it undermines the perceived independence there was. >> i now think the lord chief justice is an old leftie. >> if, if, if a club , if a club >> if, if, if a club, if a club is wrong, if a club defends itself to let people defend her, she said she's in favour of

diversity, inclusion, left wing buzzwords. >> no, no, they're not. >> no, no, they're not. >> that is the if you like the mission statement . god, it's an mission statement. god, it's an awful well there you go. that's no, no, no. but of course she's in favour of those things. she's not saying judges , you shouldn't not saying judges, you shouldn't be at the garrick club membership. >> i mean, her statement was quite hostile. fi harrison. according to the telegraph report , being sensitive, the report, being too sensitive, the lord justice is making it lord chief justice is making it clear that members of the judiciary should be seen to be independent. >> they are not just be independent, they should be seen to be anti male club. >> she doesn't seem to be independent. she seems to have a left wing accent. >> it's not a left wing act. there are many. excuse me. >> we're about the all women's bar association. excellent. >> what about it? now now the mayor of london, sadiq khan, with clean air scheme, has with his clean air scheme, has a new vigilante of whom he ought to cautious. he's .

to be cautious. he's. he's fine . to be cautious. he's. he's fine. well, dinner. dinner, dinner, dinner. batman as you probably realise, new tactics are being employed in north cheam , where employed in north cheam, where the anti ulez protesters are assumed to have once again taken matters into their own hands and have placed bat boxes on lampposts to prevent ulez cameras installed. now, cameras being installed. now, bats and their roosts are legally protected in britain and it can be an offence to disturb or destroy any places used by the animals for feeding or resting, to obstruct access resting, or to obstruct access to a roost, even if it's not being used. thus this means that if it's a bat box versus a ulez camera , the bats have it. well, camera, the bats have it. well, now back to my sometimes batty panel now back to my sometimes batty panel. oh it's rubbish gerry, it's rubbish because there are no bats. >> if there were bats, no, but it doesn't matter. >> it doesn't matter whether they're using them or not. it's if may use them. the law on if they may use them. the law on bats is they are. >> they may use them. >> they may use them. >> yeah. there are too >> yeah. i think there are too many bats in the belfry in this.

>> bats in the belfry. >> bats in the belfry. >> what say is >> well, if what you say is true, jacob, and i doubt it. i mean, surely there has to be a bat before you. before you apply this but if it is batty, this law. but if it is batty, this law. but if it is batty, this law. but if it is batty, this law. and no. and it's probably passed by one of your governments you're governments that you're a supporter it's eu regulation supporter of, it's eu regulation that still got. that we've still got. >> comes from the habitats >> it comes from the habitats directive, i think, from directive, i think, not from business in any case. >> one protesters are >> well, one one protesters are going to use this all over the place, they? place, aren't they? >> seriously, i >> and i mean, seriously, i think quite thing think it's quite a good thing because these ridiculous regulations are stopping developments the developments up and down the country. a complete country. there is a complete racket of bat experts going out to charge to look for bats to charge developers, and even people with relatively small planning applications to show there are or there aren't bats and having to put up bat boxes if their roost is moved . and perhaps this roost is moved. and perhaps this will make people realise this. you can use it to oppose any tell you about newts. >> and i don't mean fink—nottle newts. the fact of the matter is epping town hall, years and years and years ago had to be moved, although because of a

crested newt, crested newts are far more dangerous than bats to planning permission. so i think it's a crested newt situation. perhaps, but the bats getting in the way of a lefty scheme of the mayor of london may make the lefties who are so avid for the habitats directive change their minds. well, i'm more worried about the right wing people who destroy, who commit criminal criminal damage against. >> oh yeah, well, i'm against rac. >> see this? this will be taken up >> see this? this will be taken ”p by >> see this? this will be taken up by the left and used it. use it for their protest. oh, yeah. indeed indeed. it for their protest. oh, yeah. indeedindeed.and it for their protest. oh, yeah. indeed indeed. and you know, where will it end? >> it'll, >> it'll, >> it'll, >> i can't think of any good examples off the top. i should have thought about. well, it'll it'll stop all the motorways being widened and everything of this. it would have stopped hs2 if government hadn't done so if the government hadn't done so , whole thing is, , and the whole thing is, i think whole thing about bats think the whole thing about bats has racket. has become a racket. >> to use sporting . >> if we're to use sporting. thank you to my panel coming up next. you've all been waiting for, i won't be getting into a farmer's tractor and debating

the benefits of cheap food importers imports for british consumers. >> patrick christys. tonight, nine till 11 pm. it's the border force interrogation that many think shames britain. >> we're the bosses , not you. >> we're the bosses, not you. all right, all right. >> tonight i speak to the israeli brothers and october 7th survivors who were on the receiving end. someone in an official job. >> treat me like this . i don't >> treat me like this. i don't feel safe in this country. plus, banned islamist group hizb ut—tahrir have been running rife in stoke on trent. >> the city's mp, jonathan gullis and jack brereton are live in the studio to say enough is enough. i will have another migrant crisis exclusive and you will get the first look at tomorrow's newspaper front pages. don't miss patrick christys tonight, 9 to 11 pm. be

i >> -- >> well. welcome back. we've been discussing the garrick and bat boxes. with a little help from batman , annie says on the from batman, annie says on the garrick . 100% agree with men garrick. 100% agree with men only and women only clubs. so no issue with the garrick club. i don't want men at my. why ehhen don't want men at my. why ehheni don't want men at my. why either. i did once go and address the why in east harptree . it's absolutely delightful and the most delicious puddings i had 3 or 4 of them. john says there are plenty of exclusive clubs based on gender, race and various likes and dislikes . various likes and dislikes. what's wrong with that? woke folk don't like it and bat boxes, bradley says. batty but brilliant. well, i think that's a very good line, but i think we do have to be serious about it. we need to ensure that people can get on with their ordinary life, and this is applying across the planning system where there really this of there really is this racket of experts charging a fortune to cause for sometimes cause delays for sometimes non—existent bats. but that's all until we move on to british

farmers who held a protest in westminster amount of yards away from where i'm sitting right now , with about 70 tractors trawling the streets around the palace of westminster , the palace of westminster, the farmers main gripe is what they call declining food standards. amidst a number of new post—brexit trade deals , which post—brexit trade deals, which they say has hurt their industry. but i believe this view is fundamentally misguided. the be british the priority ought to be british consumers, and so cheap food imports can only be a good thing as long as people know what they're buying and there's proper labelling . the uk spends proper labelling. the uk spends less proportion of salaries less as a proportion of salaries on food than most other developed nations. this is beneficial and our new trade deals continue to help consumers . the real threat to british farmers are the green regulations that attempt to turn agricultural land into wildlife , agricultural land into wildlife, which ultimately makes british farms uncompetitive. earlier today, i was joined by douglas turner, a british farmer who once again made the journey to westminster to discuss this important matter

i >> -- >> how are you, jacob? very nice to see you. see you. so you've come up from wiltshire? i have, yes. good journey. and your tractor? fantastic journey. it's farming. whether you didn't come on the m4, no, we're not allowed on the m4, no, we're not allowed on the m4 on these we would like to be, but, no. something to do with the rules and regulations. they're always. if you're just stop oil, you can actually sit on we can't go on there. but we can't go on there with tractors. there with the tractors. >> with the tractor. yes, indeed. one rule for them indeed. it's one rule for them and rule for everybody else. and one rule for everybody else. exactly. me about your exactly. so tell me about your campaign, we want a fairer deal for british farmers. what's happening the happening at the moment? the imports. happening at the moment? the imbrexit as well. that food of brexit as well. that food stuff can come in from other countries and we're not making it . the government, it. the government, unfortunately, are paying farmers grow wildflowers and farmers to grow wildflowers and wood trees. you can't eat that

though, so we don't need to be doing that all the time, and this makes it a problem. we want a fairer playing field. >> well, you see, i agree with your request for a fairer playing field. think farmers playing field. i think farmers have poorly treated, but have been poorly treated, but i don't agree you on imports. don't agree with you on imports. you what we're doing with you see what we're doing with our tariffs protecting our tariffs has been protecting irish, french and dutch farmers and not allowing people to buy things from our old friends such as australia and new zealand. and i think that's a mistake. yes, but i strongly agree with you on fair labelling , because you on fair labelling, because am i right in thinking that food can say made in england, made in great britain, made in the united and it's not united kingdom, and it's not comes another country. comes from another country. >> because it's packaged >> and because it's packaged here, though the here, it looks as though to the public, actually is home public, but it actually is home grown when it's not at all. and the problem is we don't home grow things. and if i must go back to this woodland park, farmers are too much money farmers are paid too much money to wood, trees put to grow wood, to have trees put in and each time we take in there and each time we take an of arable land out of an acre of arable land out of production in this country, in the amazon and places, they have

to down two and a half acres. >> and it seems to me there's a really bad environmental ideology that is hampering british farming . but, as you british farming. but, as you rightly actually rightly say, not actually helping environment globally i >> -- >> no, not at all. and also for us, we have so much legislation that out all the from that comes out all the time from various government bodies, probably your good self as well. i know, and it hinders us. i don't know, and it hinders us. you know, we have the prime minister saying he's got our back. we have the other ministers saying that they've got our back as well in the farming, but the only reason they got our back is because they're pushing us out of farming. and we won't be farming in this country anymore. we cannot everything . we cannot import everything. we must able to have our home must be able to have our home grown because farm it grown stuff because we farm it better. farms it better better. nobody farms it better than us. >> noticed farmers in my >> i noticed that farmers in my constituency somerset that constituency in somerset that can compete fairly do really well. they have done all the right things, they've invested, they have added value by completing the production chain. they've set up farm shops. but that regulation and reward for

not farming is just a huge burden on the backs of farmers . burden on the backs of farmers. >> it's too much to be paid to actually have trees in there, and not to actually have food is and not to actually have food is a bad thing because if we import too much and they have a bad harvest in those countries, what's going to happen? they won't have food to come us, won't have food to come to us, andifs won't have food to come to us, and it's going to be very expensive for well. expensive for us as well. >> and other issue is >> and the other issue is environmental regulations. again, constituency, again, in my own constituency, dairy saying dairy farmers have been saying to regulations to me that the new regulations on pits are requiring on slurry pits are requiring them to make enormous investments with not necessarily any financial support from the government, which is going to put our dairy industry out of business. and have some of business. and we have some of the best dairy land in the world. >> well, exactly . well further >> well, exactly. well further down in cornwall in the year 2000, they used to have 1200 dairy farms. they've only got 400 now. they've lost 67% of it. so why is this happening? well it seems to me it's regulation. >> this comes back to my starting point. i think that british farmers can be globally competitive . and i think you can

competitive. and i think you can compete on price and quality , compete on price and quality, and that people will buy british food and they will need british food. i wouldn't have tariffs and barriers against imports. i would insist on fair labelling, say you know where it's coming from or you even know if it's been hormone treated. that should be a choice for consumers. it shouldn't be a choice for the state, but that you have your hands tied behind your back with regulation. yeah >> that's the thing. the >> and that's the thing. the problem we suffer most of the time that you have the time is that you have the townies city dwellers townies and the city dwellers making rules the making up the rules for the custodians countryside. custodians of the countryside. and farmer douglas. and that's the farmer douglas. >> very much. and >> thank you very much. and a safe journey back to your farm. thank very much, gordon. thank you very much, gordon. >> jacob, let's for drive. >> jacob, let's go for a drive. thank looking thank you. i've been looking forward to this. >> well, isn't it wonderful to see those cows? i think they're the most beautiful animals. and fundamentally tory. solid and reliable. that's all from me. up

next, it's patrick christys. patrick, what's on your bill of fare this evening? >> yes, i've got an electric show for you tonight, jacob, it's show for you tonight, jacob, wsfime show for you tonight, jacob, it's time to name and shame the immigration judges who are letting monsters walk free in britain. how many asylum seekers have committed sexual crimes? we have committed sexual crimes? we have a right to know. and i speak to the israelis who were hounded by border force . hounded by border force. >> well, that's going to be extremely interesting. i'm glad you're having an electric show. once to net zero, once we get to net zero, there'll no electricity even there'll be no electricity even for programs. that's all for our programs. and that's all coming after the weather. coming up. after the weather. i'll be back tomorrow at 8:00. i'm rees—mogg, and this i'm jacob rees—mogg, and this has state of nation and i'm jacob rees—mogg, and this has weatherate of nation and i'm jacob rees—mogg, and this has weather in of nation and i'm jacob rees—mogg, and this has weather in somerset. ion and i'm jacob rees—mogg, and this has weather in somerset. well, d the weather in somerset. well, i hear from and children hear from my wife and children who safely ensconced there. who are safely ensconced there. thatis who are safely ensconced there. that is absolutely ideal that is absolutely lovely. ideal for walking the dog daisy, who you've seen. and the sun will be shining beautifully as we prepare our easter prepare for our easter celebration. as >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar , the sponsors of weather solar, the sponsors of weather

on gb news. >> hi there, time to look at the met office forecast for gb news rain and snow across northern parts of the uk during the next 24 hours. showers moving in elsewhere, although interspersed by at least some brighter interludes. low pressure still well and truly in charge . that well and truly in charge. that low mainly sitting towards the south—west of the uk and it is sending a band of rain north dunng sending a band of rain north during the evening into northern ireland, where some wet weather could cause issues. rain warning in force as as central and in force, as well as central and northern parts of wales northern england, parts of wales and eventually that rain and then eventually that rain moves scotland, it moves into scotland, where it mixes with cold air to give some snow above 2300m. the far north stays dry but chilly , and stays dry but chilly, and further south some clear spells, although the next area of rain moves in by dawn to affect southwest england, wales , southwest england, wales, northern ireland as well. heavy downpours, gusty winds and then that rain well, it tends to turn to showers as it moves into central uk by the afternoon. further showers arrive later

from the southwest with gusty winds. hail and thunder. a lively afternoon, although with some pretty clouds in the sky. now in the far north, we're going to see wet and windy weather remain until thursday morning. and then thursday starts off bright across scotland and northern ireland. elsewhere england and wales, scotland and northern ireland. eiblustery england and wales, scotland and northern ireland. eiblustery startngland and wales, scotland and northern ireland. eiblustery start with|d and wales, scotland and northern ireland. eiblustery start with furthervales, a blustery start with further heavy rain to come, followed by showers and those showers developing fairly widely as we go easter weekend. i go into the easter weekend. i suspect good friday, saturday and day . mostly we're and easter day. mostly we're going to see sunny spells and showers before more prolonged rain on monday. >> looks things are heating >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

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