buying an electric car agenda, buying an electric car won't save you from speeding tickets. as the noble lord, lord goldsmith, has just discovered, as he is banned from driving for 11 trivial speeding offences. but is this just the latest chapter of the war on the motorist? plus, last week , his motorist? plus, last week, his grace, the archbishop of canterbury, met the reverend fadi diab , the anglican cleric fadi diab, the anglican cleric from saint andrew's, ramallah in palestine , to discuss the war. palestine, to discuss the war. tonight, the reverend diab joins me live in the studio. state of the nation starts now. i'll also be joined by a cerebral panel this evening. author and journalist michael crick and new culture forum fellow and broadcaster emma webb . as always, i want to hear from you. it's a crucial part of the programme. email me mailmogg@gbnews.com. programme. email me mailmogg@gbnevitime 1. programme. email me mailmogg@gbnevitime of the it's your favourite time of the day. the news with polly middlehurst .

middlehurst. >> jacob thank you and good evening to you. well, in an exclusive interview tonight on gb news, the former us president donald trump has been speaking to gb news presenter nigel farage and he had a warning for nato. he said nato member countries needed stop countries needed to stop taking the united states protection for granted and that speaking plainly gets him results. >> if we don't pay our bills, are you going to protect us from russia? i said, you mean you're delinquent ? you're not paying delinquent? you're not paying the bills? yes. nope. i'm not going you . we're not going to pay you. we're not going to pay you. we're not going to pay you. we're not going to do it. we're going going to do it. we're not going to you if you're not to defend you if you're not paying to defend you if you're not paying we're not paying your bills, we're not going it's very going to defend you. it's very simple and hundreds of billions of dollars flowing in. of dollars came flowing in. >> donald trump speaking earlier on today. well the shadow chancellor tonight has been setting out labour's plans for the economy, saying it'll be a new chapter in britain's economic history at a meeting of finance ministers this evening, rachel reeves said the next government will face a challenge

similar to that faced by margaret thatcher in 1979. she said labour would build an economy on resilient foundations rooted in the global reality. >> we can no longer indulge complacency, a growth model reliant on geopolitical stability is a growth model resting on increasingly shallow foundations. resting on increasingly shallow foundations . the task, then, is foundations. the task, then, is to build for growth on strong foundations, broad based , foundations, broad based, inclusive, resilient and anchored in the realities of a fast changing world. let me be unambiguous there is no viable growth strategy today . growth strategy today. >> now, the first minister of wales delivered an emotional resignation speech today after facing questions in the senate for the final time for him. he says he's now looking forward to life on the backbenches . mark life on the backbenches. mark drakeford, stepping down drakeford, who is stepping down after five years in the job, spoke with feeling as he talked about how difficult the last

year him after the year had been for him after the sudden of his wife personally. >> the last 12 months has been the hardest and the saddest of my life and people will not see beyond the chamber. those small acts of kindness that happen every day from people in every part of this chamber that help someone to get through those very, very difficult times. >> drakeford bowing out from the senate today for the latest stories. do sign up for gb news alerts. scan that qr code on your screen right now or go to gbnews.com. slash alerts back now to . jacob. now to. jacob. >> good evening. if you were paying >> good evening. if you were paying attention to our previous program, and i expect you were on the very edge of your seat, it was extremely interesting. you would heard in our you would have heard in our world exclusive interview,

donald discussing donald trump discussing the misreporting of a speech he gave at a rally in ohio a few days ago . according to the headlines ago. according to the headlines in joe biden's re—election campaign , mr trump had ominously campaign, mr trump had ominously warned that there be warned that there would be a bloodbath if he were not re—elected, suggesting some kind of armed insurrection in. this wasn't true. it was fake news. he had, in fact, been referring to the prospects of american car manufacturers when faced with chinese competition. >> big monster car manufacturing plants that you're building in mexico right now, and you think you're going to get that, you're going to not hire americans and you're going to sell the cars to us? no we're going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you're not going to be able to sell those guys if i get elected. now, if i don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath for the whole . that's bloodbath for the whole. that's going to be the least of it. it's going to a bloodbath for it's going to be a bloodbath for the country . that'll be the the country. that'll be the least they're not

least of it. but they're not going sell cars . going to sell those cars. >> and you see, as the man >> and so, you see, as the man himself might say, fake so himself might say, fake news. so let's mr had to let's hear what mr trump had to say the reporting of the say about the reporting of the incident in his conversation with farage. here with nigel farage. here >> commonly used phrase when you're slaughtered you're getting slaughtered economically, when you're getting slaughtered socially, when you're getting slaughtered, and they use it all the time. and we have many examples and we put out all those examples. but that doesn't stop him. >> and the trump case here is not an isolated one. left wing media is too often extremely careless with the truth and with impartiality. despite grandiose claims to the contrary, the eu loving bbc has its own fact check department. bbc verify verification is all well and good. you might think they have a friendly and professional looking logo. the little green circle green, of course for party and they throw around terms like forensic but fact checking needs to be completely accurate and that the eu loving bbc it's not mistakes are sometimes made, especially with

the fast paced nature of media, but this is why a good outlet will issue corrections promptly. but let's have a look at a few bbc verify and bbc errors. earlier this month, it fact checked a report of israeli troops allegedly opening fire on an aid convoy in gaza to verify its report . it used the account its report. it used the account of an eyewitness. this eyewitness turned out to be a figure bankrolled by iran, with links to the islamic revolutionary guard corps staying on gaza. in october, the bbc prematurely reported an explosion at the al ahli hospital was the result of an israeli strike. while we still cannot say with absolute certainty what happened, the most probable cause of that explosion is now widely accepted to have been an errant missile fired from inside gaza and therefore by hamas. and this was before israeli troops invaded the enclave. so what is the point of a verification unit that employs 60 people, no less, at your expense? if the eu loving bbc is still prepared to

spout mistruths like this to you, the license payer, without bothering to check its sources, like any jobbing scribbler on a local daily courier, would be expected to do . but let's expected to do. but let's continue. in february, bbc one ran a lunchtime report on the sentencing of a murderer in oxford . several experienced oxford. several experienced journalists faced the camera and detailed an horrific incident that involved both the killing of an innocent man and the torture and death of an animal. had, you know, nothing else of this would have this case, the bbc would have had believe that adult had you believe that an adult human female had committed this wicked and referred to the wicked crime and referred to the killer solely as a woman, despite the fact that he was born biologically male? this cavalier attitude to truth is not just limited to the bbc, of course. indeed, it gets worse because they've tacked justin webb for calling somebody who was biologically a man a man. this approach to matters this approach to truth matters because it becomes the self confirmation of virtue confirmation of the virtue signaller. if i'm a good, worthy leftie and i believe it, so it must be true. this then becomes my truth and in turn devalues

real facts and encourages wild conspiracy theories. the pieties of the left then create the monster it purports to despise . monster it purports to despise. for when people are deprived of truth, they will believe anything as ever. let me know your thoughts. mail margaret gb news. com i'm joined now by my very distinguished cerebral panel author and journalist michael crick, a new culture forum broadcaster , forum fellow and broadcaster, emma webb, michael, you are a very experienced journalist and actually a very meticulous one. very interestingly, in your career, you've defended right wing and left wing figures when you've thought truth was on their side, joe biden's office putting out fake news when he's president on a presidential candidate? it's pretty bad, isn't it? >> actually, i think you can interpret the trump, words there as there's going to be a bloodbath, literally, in terms of there being blood. if he didn't mean that, he should make it very clear that he should have made that clear, that he

should have been somebody as experienced donald trump experienced as donald trump should not be using that kind of language when it can be interpreted in the way he does. in the speech, he also in the same speech, he also lauded the january 6th protesters as hostages , so there protesters as hostages, so there is there is the psychological link there between the protesters on january the 6th who stormed the capitol. and then this talk of a bloodbath, it was irresponsible language. you wouldn't use it, but because you would know it was irresponsible. by using irresponsible. and by him using it, i think there is the implied threat. there is the ambiguity. >> about what the us car >> talking about what the us car industry and 100% tariff and what was happening to it because of probably . of china, probably. >> but i think there was a hint in his of something in his language of something worse don't people? worse than that, don't people? i mean, is a man who has mean, this is a man who has condoned really happened on condoned really what happened on january the 6th, which was a violent it was an violent occasion. it was an insurrection, we and he , an insurrection, and we and he, an experienced politician, shouldn't use language like that i >> -- >> i'm surprised you take this line, because it seems to me that trump's enemies actually

make him able to get away with all sorts of things, things that may be true because they overstate, because there's a sort of there's a madness about trump that makes people always believe the worst . those who believe the worst. those who oppose him, they can't understand that anybody would support him. >> and there's also an element about trump. if him teasing his enemies, you know, he will he will he will deliberately go further, i think, than he believes sometimes just to fire them up and get them, get them, get them in a in a frenzy. so there are elements there . but i there are elements there. but i do think that that was irresponsible language. and it's andifs irresponsible language. and it's and it's ambiguous. and i'll come on to other things later. anna. >> i mean, it seems to me that actually the left wing media believes what it believes and when it doesn't fit its narrative, it's pretty cavalier about the truth . about the truth. >> it's a sort of cognitive distortion. it's disingenuous to read into those words some kind of implication that ignores the context of what he was saying was clearly talking about a

bloodbath in the car manufacturing industry . manufacturing industry. >> when you look, you say that. then he did say that, yes, he did. >> he could have said there'll be an industrial bloodbath or a financial or an economic bloodbath. that's what jacob would have because he's would have done, because he's a responsible politician. donald trump. >> didn't because he's >> trump didn't because he's donald trump. >> we've just seen him doing an interview with nigel farage. donald is known for the donald trump is known for the way uses language. way that he uses language. he has very way of has a very particular way of speaking, interrupt fit that speaking, to interrupt fit that into what he said is just i think it's justice ingenuous. i'm not accusing you of it. you seem like you are very committed and very passionate about your interpretation of what he said , interpretation of what he said, but i just think it's a sort of intentionally sophistic way of, way of trying to twist his words out of context. and if anything , out of context. and if anything, actually, i think it's a miscalculation on the part of anyone who's being consciously disingenuous, because all it does to the narrative of does is add to the narrative of those people who do support him, who think that he's being unfairly maligned. >> i think that's absolutely

right . and that in right. and that in inadvertently, the left build up donald trump by attacking him for things that he hasn't said , for things that he hasn't said, rather than concentrating on what he has said. >> and it's exactly the same with their attempts to the with their attempts to use the law to prevent him from running, which was then, as everybody knew it would be inevitably overturned by a higher court , overturned by a higher court, and all that does is add credence to those who believe that donald trump is being persecuted , and if anything, persecuted, and if anything, that just inflames the situation because people feel that that firstly that the that there is there is a system out to get them that is trying to prevent them that is trying to prevent them from being able to democratically express themselves in wanting donald trump to be president again. and then when donald trump talks about things like the, the, the mail in ballots , it it just adds mail in ballots, it it just adds further credence to, to those arguments and makes it look even more like he's being very convincing. >> and to come on to the bit

about the bbc, if you set up a fact verification unit, you've got to be very, very accurate. you shouldn't put anything out until you are certain, i've had a thing from, their statistics program where i'd used facts from the eu and they said that that wasn't the right fact. well, that's a useful, not mine. and it seems to have a political angle to it. and the point i made about about the israel—palestine issue, again , israel—palestine issue, again, they went to a source that was fundamentally unreliable because cause that's what the bbc wants to believe. that's the bbc culture. yeah. >> i mean, the verification unit or that's what it's called, something like that. it does have an orwellian air about it. but i mean, fact checking is vital. and in a world where so much of our information comes from social media, we need to be able to verify whether the video is genuine, whether it's from where it says it's from , whether where it says it's from, whether it's whether it's fake, concocted. whatever i get the phrase now, and the same with

news, but you've got to make this happen. i don't mean that phrase, know, videos phrase, you know, the videos that but the it is that are. but but the it is unfortunate if you make mistakes, but we all make mistakes. one of the ones that's always haunted me. i have to confess is years ago, confess to you is 40 years ago, i that your father had gone i said that your father had gone to . when, course he to eton. when, of course he didn't. to charterhouse. didn't. he went to charterhouse. and me ever since and it's worried me ever since he have forgiven you. he would have forgiven you. i'm sure of mistruth. most of the rest of the family went to eton, but not him. now the. >> actually, we went to charterhouse for the best part of 200 years. >> right, right. well, >> right, right, right. well, anyway, another mistake. anyway, there's another mistake. no obviously anyway, there's another mistake. no got obviously anyway, there's another mistake. no got be. obviously anyway, there's another mistake. no got be. and)usly anyway, there's another mistake. no got be. and i,sly anyway, there's another mistake. no got be. and i, you you've got to be. and i, you know, have been concerned know, i have been concerned about bias on the left, know, i have been concerned about bias on the left , both know, i have been concerned about bias on the left, both in channel 4 and in the bbc. for quite a while. i don't think it's anything like as bad as it was there is occasionally bias there. partly it's the background of the people , you background of the people, you know, educated, know, university educated, london class. they london based middle class. they don't come from places like barrow and hartlepool, but but i think that the bias on in this station far , far worse. but station is far, far worse. but that's why. what other what

other television channel do you see a political leader interviewing his predecessor and then in reverse? >> that's because that's why we've got you on for balance. >> well, a lot of lifting you a lot more. and i'm only a centrist. i'm not that left wing. michael. >> you are the little leaven that leavens all the bread , but that leavens all the bread, but on bbc issue, it does seem on the bbc issue, it does seem to me that there is just a bbc view of the world and whether it's wing or right wing, it's left wing or right wing, they think right. they just think that's right. >> well, one the journalists >> well, one of the journalists who was face of bbc verified who was the face of bbc verified doing an introduction to what bbc verify used, the bbc verify is used, the orwellian terms miss truths. and i actually off back of this i actually off the back of this story went to have a listen to her podcast. she has a podcast about conspiracy theories, and it's so very, very clear that the bbc has a particular way of seeing the world. and what's so worrying about the bias is that it completely lacks any self—conscious looseness. it's not it's not aware of its bias. and i was looking back at an old, civitas report, the think tank where i used to work, and

they looked at bbc bias from 2005 to 2015. on the eu, just on the issue of the eu, and found that just under 3% of guests discussing the eu were on the side of leave. >> well, there we go . >> well, there we go. >> well, there we go. >> not many people believed in leave because we've got some responses in response to claims about bbc verify, the bbc said in a statement . we stand by our in a statement. we stand by our journalism and reject the allegations piece. the allegations in this piece. the bbc not allowed access into bbc is not allowed access into gaza, we a range of gaza, but we use a range of accounts from eyewitnesses and cross—reference these against official and footage, official statements and footage, including the idf. fact including from the idf. the fact that someone expressed an that someone has expressed an opinion social media doesn't opinion on social media doesn't automatically them automatically disqualify them from giving eyewitness testimony. simply to testimony. it is simply wrong to claim agenda on our part, and claim an agenda on our part, and ignores much of the journalism we done, including bbc we have done, including bbc verify accounts of the supernova festival and on the festival massacre and on the question of the reporting of the transgender murderer, spokesman said. the bbc style guide states we will generally use tum

we will generally use the tum and pronoun preferred by the person unless their person in question, unless their editorial reasons not to do so. in case, we consider it in this case, we consider it editorial only appropriate to include fact blake is include the fact that blake is a transgender woman and otherwise a man, and did so across our output. we accept that it should have been included in the report on the news at one. so thank you.the on the news at one. so thank you. the bbc has admitted a mistake. may hope for mistake. there may be hope for it thank you to my most it yet. thank you to my most cerebral coming cerebral panel coming up. another cost to to the green another cost to add to the green agenda. going to have agenda. you're going to have to fork out another billion to fork out another £60 billion to decarbonise but the decarbonise the grid, but the labour you to pay labour party wants you to pay even plus, be even more. plus, i'll be speaking to an anglican reverend from west bank from ramallah in the west bank about the

war. well, we've been discussing fake news and bob mail's mog to say. dear jacob, totalitarian states only flourish on the back of fake news in the west. left wing political regimes follow their

lead. the media are crucial in countering this brainwashing. so the bias of the bbc is appalling. and mark using the word bloodbath is a common for most of the democrats in the white house whereas your speaker on that issue. or is it just donald trump is bad because everybody tells him he is ? well, everybody tells him he is? well, sadly, i can't ask him because we need to talk about the electricity system. operator, which national which is part of the national grid, issued a new report grid, has issued a new report saying an additional £58 billion will need to be spent decarbonising the grid to reach net zero status by 2035. this is about £1,000 per adult in britain. in the united kingdom , britain. in the united kingdom, exposing the lack of affordability of the project, not least because the official commons committee report says the expects its goal the government expects its goal to decarbonise the power system to decarbonise the power system to require wait for it 275 to £375 billion of public and private investment , as well £375 billion of public and private investment, as well as 50 to £150 billion of investment in the electricity networks . but in the electricity networks. but this poses a serious problems

for the labour party. this policy attempts to out green the tories by pledging to achieve a decarbonised grid by 2035 years earlier. so if current cost projections are already this high, what would it be under the labour party? well, i'm joined now by doctor paul dorfman, associate fellow of the science policy research unit the policy research unit at the university sussex , as well as university of sussex, as well as chairman of the nuclear consulting . professor, consulting group. professor, thank you very much for joining me. tell me, do you think this is affordable ? is affordable? >> well, about 87% of all new power generation capacity worldwide last year, 2023, was renewables . so all energy renewables. so all energy institutes, organisations worldwide say quite clearly that renewables will do the heavy lifting for net zero for the energy transition that we need to ameliorate the climate crisis. now the uk has vast wind resources . how to deploy that? resources. how to deploy that? well via the grid and in fact, according to the grid's own

numbers, it works out to be about 20 to £30 per household. >> but but we don't make indifference to the climate, do we? because we're only 1% of emissions and china is still increasing its emissions and america hasn't decreased them. so the point ? we just so what's the point? we just make the british poor? >> well , the ipcc, the >> well, the ipcc, the international panel on climate change says we need to cut by 2030 to have a hope of 1.5 to 2, to try to store all the worst of, of climate that we're seeing . so, as it were, every little helps and we need to be in the forefront of this. >> why we've done our bit, we've cut our emissions and other people haven't, and we're making our electricity, our electricity , $0.44 per kilowatt hour against $0.17 in the us. it makes fundamentally makes us fundamentally uncompetitive globally , we're uncompetitive globally, we're doing quite a lot. >> but in terms of those emissions, it's we're talking about those emissions generated in the uk rather than the emissions of the emissions emissions of the total emissions that uses. in other words

that the uk uses. in other words , production worldwide. so that number you quoted number that you just quoted vanes number that you just quoted varies quite considerably. the point about this is, is that we're facing a climate crisis. i mean , this is the reality. this mean, this is the reality. this is where we are. this is really what is happening. so anything that we can do , helps and that we can do, helps and there's no question about it. >> thank you . sorry to be very >> thank you. sorry to be very brief. we rather overran on the last segment. so thank you, doctor paul dorfman, one area that's been hit hard by the expansion of the grid is lincolnshire. and i'm delighted to be joined now by leader to be joined now by the leader of lincolnshire council, martin hill, hill, thank you very hill, mr hill, thank you very much for joining hill, mr hill, thank you very much forjoining me. the countryside of lincolnshire is going to be desecrated by these enormous s, the 164 foot pylons along 87 miles between grimsby and walpole in norfolk. surely people living in lincolnshire don't want this , we certainly don't want this, we certainly don't want this, we certainly don't want this, we certainly don't want it. and, we're talking about 420 pylons all the

way down lincolnshire coast, right next to lincolnshire wolds , which is, an area of outstanding natural beauty . so outstanding natural beauty. so also the power that's being will be generated by new wind turbine farm out in the north sea. we'll have to come ashore somehow. but our view, if this is inevitable, why not just lay the cable on the seabed and not have these pylons basically just covering the whole of the east coast of lincolnshire ? lincolnshire? >> it'll be even more expensive. is the problem, isn't it? and what we need is cheap energy. all economies grow on the back of cheap energy. so this green fanaticism just us, fanaticism is just making us, poor. poon >>i poon >> i think there needs to be an honest debate about the green agenda because, you know, all these extra costs which aren't mentioned when we set off on this programme, i think were, a sort of all coming, the chickens are coming to roost now. and, obviously the, you know, importing gas from abroad instead of using the gas that we

have under our feet in uk and nottinghamshire and lincolnshire, in my case is, would seem to be at least should be considered. and so not only do we are we getting huge costs, we're also getting huge disruption. and our understanding is this line of pylons is only the start. and there'll be further pylons, across the whole country , across the whole country, because the trouble is the, the net, the national grid is based on coal farm coal. coal power stations in, in the midlands. and obviously the power has got to get from the sea to the south—east, basically, which is where we're going to suffer. >> well, your democratically elected politician , what do your elected politician, what do your voters want ? voters want? >> the voters are certainly the there's been a lot of , people there's been a lot of, people against this, certainly around the areas which are affected and i think like a lot of the things which are green, i mean, i was the council we have pursued a

green agenda. we reduced our carbon emissions similar to the government, by doing government, 40, by doing sensible which are sensible things which are actually saving money as well. but i think in the future, as it becomes more and more intrusive when people realise some of the costs of this agenda, there needs to be a sensible debate on how we can in the future, find the power we need, at the same time protecting the environment in other ways. >> well, thank you very much , >> well, thank you very much, martin. my sister, my current sister, non—charter, lives in lincolnshire, so i'll have to ask her when she's next back on the yes, i'm aware of that. >> i do know know lincoln >> i do know you know lincoln quite well. >> good. thank you. >> good. thank you. >> well, you coming >> well, thank you for coming on. we're on the on. and while we're on the subject green fanaticism, i'd subject of green fanaticism, i'd be i didn't mention be remiss if i didn't mention cambridge university, which has decided it's going to decarbonise to the university, will halt funding from fossil fuel firms a campaign from fuel firms after a campaign from students criticised the £19 million it had received from oil giants like bp and shell. but the ethically conscious bureaucrats of cambridge don't seem be all that consistent. seem to be all that consistent. while money from oil giants is

unethical , while money from oil giants is unethical, more than £2 million in funding from a chinese state owned military aerospace company doesn't seem be problem at doesn't seem to be a problem at all. well, i'm joined now by my panel all. well, i'm joined now by my panel, michael crick and emma webb . emma, you were at oxford? webb. emma, you were at oxford? no, michael was at oxford. emma, you were cambridge. do you you were at cambridge. do you want your old university? >> i do not, and actually, i think this news coming straight after , we saw a i think it was a after, we saw a i think it was a student, somebody slashing a painting of balfour. i think that this can only, irritate student activists who might take it upon themselves to try and bully the university city into taking up their activist demands. no, i think that this not just the cambridge story, but the other stories that you just discussed. i think this is a historic act of self—harm. there are people living in this country who living on their country who are living on their overdrafts, afford to overdrafts, who can't afford to feed children, who can't feed their children, who can't keep over their heads. keep a roof over their heads. this is taxpayer money that's

going to spent on what i going to be spent on what i think is, frankly, a scam. i think is, frankly, a scam. i think net zero is unachievable. and i think you're absolutely right to point out that we have reduced our carbon emissions, and i think it's reasonable to try and have a cleaner energy system, but it's not reasonable to have this ideological commitment to net zero, particularly when it's nonsensical as countries like china and america are definitely not pulling their weight. >> michael, i know you don't agree with that. go on fire up in favour of net zero. and would you take donations from bp and shell? >> well, on the latter , i >> well, on the latter, i remember discussing this issue when i was on the governing body of another university and it's thcky of another university and it's tricky because sometimes these companies bp and shell are actually doing huge amounts of research into alternatives to oil and gas and, and carbon emissions and, and we need that kind of research, obviously , i kind of research, obviously, i am totally committed to net

zero. i think we should do we should work as hard as we possibly can to achieve net zero. britain has done a brilliant job so far and is setting an example to the world. we can't just say, oh well, we're never going to achieve it by 20, the target by 2030 or 2050. give up 2050. so let's give up altogether. try as altogether. we should try as hard can. and if we say, hard as we can. and if we say, all right, well, we're giving up.and all right, well, we're giving up. and the americans under trump it will get would get worse. they say they're giving up.then worse. they say they're giving up. then the rest of the world say, well, won't bother say, oh, well, we won't bother ehhen say, oh, well, we won't bother either. weather will either. and the weather will continue worse. continue to get worse. hurricanes and floods, islands will disappear, that hurricanes and have as you and floods have increased as you know, even the ipcc says that. well, severity of the well, the severity of the weather throughout the world. are saying that weather are you saying that the weather conditions we are weather always changes. ipcc has been clear >> but the ipcc has been clear temperature. been temperature. there's been no increase in this increase in height in this country, actually country, and we've actually got fewer fires than we had fewer forest fires than we had 40 years ago. fewer forest fires than we had 40 what ago. fewer forest fires than we had 40 what about the huge >> what about the huge temperatures ? not in this temperatures? not in this country, europe, country, throughout europe, throughout parts throughout africa, large parts of africa can't grow food anymore. that will then, of

anymore. and that will then, of course, lead to even further mass migration , which you are mass migration, which you are very concerned about. we're all concerned about. all right . i concerned about. all right. i think, you know, you're always going about the importance of going on about the importance of inheritance tax and leaving something children. i something to your children. i don't world you leave to your children may not be very good. >> i don't want constituents >> i don't want my constituents to and poor. that's the to be cold and poor. that's the long short of it. you long and short of it. thank you to after the break, to my panel. after the break, we'll discussing we'll be discussing another aspect green agenda aspect of the green agenda the war the motorist, which has war on the motorist, which has gone after of its own, the gone after one of its own, the environmentalist gone after one of its own, the environimayoralt gone after one of its own, the environimayoral candidate london mayoral candidate lord goldsmith , we'll be goldsmith zac plus, we'll be exploring the small but fascinating community fascinating anglican community in palestine

well, we've been talking about the national grid and cambridge refusing money from bp and shell. and the male mugs have been storming in. graham says give the people two tariffs. green and fossils. no subsidies. let them choose their

credentials and pay accordingly. that's a very good idea. we'd all go for fossil fuels, mike, other than michael, jacob, to pursue an h2 economy would certainly reduce the need for armies of pylons saving billions wherever one would look e.g. to use our existing yellow pipe gas network. now, i agree, i'm interested in hydrogen and paula. paula, a very special message from paula . hi jacob, message from paula. hi jacob, please would you say hello and good to dearest dad . good evening to my dearest dad. hello dearest dad, david from whitstable, such a fan whitstable, as he is such a fan of yours and this would make his day. thank you much. well, day. thank you so much. well, dad. i hope i've made dad. david, i hope i've made your day thank for your day and thank you for watching people's channel. watching the people's channel. speaking agenda, speaking of the green agenda, there's another agenda also run by the eco zealots, which is the war on the motorist. and make no mistake, driving an electric car will not see you exempt from this one man who knows this tyranny. one man who knows this tyranny. one man who knows this all too well is former london mayoral candidate zac goldsmith, now been goldsmith, who has now been banned a whole banned from driving for a whole year after trivial speeding year after 11 trivial speeding offences. while i obviously offences. and while i obviously don't advocate speeding, some of these were patently

these offences were patently absurd, such as when he drove at 28 miles an hour in a 20 zone and 48 in a 40. what's even more bizarre is the pompous , puffed bizarre is the pompous, puffed up magistrate cared to mention that motorists who break speed limits emitted more harmful emissions. who, who, who even in hybhd emissions. who, who, who even in hybrid and electric cars. as if that had anything to do with the matter . well, that had anything to do with the matter. well, i'm joined now by my cerebral panel. emma my most cerebral panel. emma webb and michael craig. michael mocking the judiciary. >> you'll some pompous magistrate. >> and i'm. if i were in the house of commons, i wouldn't be allowed to. but i am allowed to. when i'm not in the commons. i mean, what seems to me so fundamentally is that the fundamentally unfair is that the system of catching motorists has changed. but the penalties haven't. so there's a haven't. so there's been a massive in the number massive increase in the number of penalties issued when this point system started , it was point system started, it was that you had to be pulled over by a policeman and policeman only pulled you over if you'd done something pretty silly. so the chance of getting 12 points in years meant were

in three years meant you were quite a bad, irresponsible driver. just sort of driver. now just sort of pootling along a little bit above the limit. poor isaac got caughtin above the limit. poor isaac got caught in temporary speed limits, which are a monstrosity , limits, which are a monstrosity, and then suddenly you find you've lost your licence for a yean you've lost your licence for a year, which is a huge imposition you've lost your licence for a yit's which is a huge imposition you've lost your licence for a yit's whi(noty a huge imposition you've lost your licence for a y it's whi(not fair. jge imposition . it's just not fair. >> you described the >> well, you described the offences as trivial, but the one you just mentioned, him being done at 28 miles an hour when the limit is 20, that is more than you know. it's 40% above the limit. >> that is not trivial, but 20 is a silly limit. well i think if you were hit by a car driving at 20 miles an hour, you might survive. >> if you were hit by a car driving at 28 miles an hour, you probably wouldn't. and that's and so safety concerns. >> but that's a good >> but that's a very good argument outside a argument for 20 outside a school. terrible argument school. it's a terrible argument for on the for safety for 20 on the cromwell road, which just to cromwell road, which is just to annoy by the mayor annoy the motorist by the mayor of london. >> well, think that overall >> well, i think that overall lower limits because after all, if electric cars are seen if your electric cars are seen to be exempt. and so it gets so complicated, i do think 20 mile an hour limits are a good idea

on the whole. >> so michael crick wants us to go back to having red flag in front of car. typical. so front of your car. typical. so socialist. he wants red socialist. he wants the red flag out. this is really a war out. emma this is really a war on the motorist and it's become too onerous and losing your licence for relatively trivial offences is surely disproportionate. >> we've just been talking about net zero, and i think motorists do feel that they are besieged on all sides. there are so many ways in which motorists are being caught out and tripped up, and then actually, it's not entirely reasonable . now, of entirely reasonable. now, of course, know, you shouldn't entirely reasonable. now, of course,that's now, you shouldn't entirely reasonable. now, of course,that's fair you shouldn't entirely reasonable. now, of course,that's fair enough. uldn't speed. that's fair enough. nobody's advocating for that. but what you need is a reasonable application of the law . you need common sense to law. you need common sense to rule the day , essentially. and rule the day, essentially. and i and i think that motorists are , and i think that motorists are, are will feel and i think quite rightly, that they are being targeted because, particularly with ulez as one example of this. but there are other measures that have recently been brought in. there is also the

recent news of, of private companies that have been issuing, 35,000. i think it is 35. i think that's the correct number, parking tickets a day, costing people billions. >> well, it makes a lot of money for the dvla, but we can move on to more of that subject because the powers of councils have been expanded. many as 10 expanded. so as many as 10 million households now face the tyranny more fines for tyranny of more fines for traffic offences, very minor ones, 85 highway authorities will now have the powers to fine motorists if they are caught stopping in yellow boxes or making illegal u—turns and such other trivial misdemeanours. but there to another there seems to be yet another case of more proof that the war on the motorist is merely a money making especially money making scheme, especially considering councils considering many of our councils are bankrupt and are practically bankrupt and desperate for more of your money. emma, do you money. well, emma, do you want to on that point? to continue on that point? >> well, i think that it's perfectly illustrates that it's mounting that that as i said, i described it as motorists feeling as if they're besieged on all sides. now, i can't drive. i will at some point learn to drive, but i'm sure

that be many in that there'll be many people in my who feel my position who will feel dissuade added. and think that dissuade added. and i think that that's the intention is. that's what the intention is. ulez good example of this. ulez is a good example of this. low neighbourhoods ulez is a good example of this. low example, ourhoods ulez is a good example of this. low example, and oods another example, and particularly if you need to drive for your trade, all of the restrictions and incentives and disincentives towards electric vehicles. this is adding extra costs for people, particularly tradesmen or taxi drivers. people feel as if drivers , i people feel as if drivers, i believe, feel as if they are being persecuted and i think it's wrong because the people who are affected most by this are working class people. >> well, i do think need to >> well, i do think we need to do more to get people out of their cars and onto public transport. and i mean, i've been done for yellow boxes. they're blooming impossible to understand. and, know, you understand. and, you know, you get all of and get stuck and all of that. and it feels unjust. and the fact that the money goes the that the money goes to the council and councils are council and our councils are stretched of, you know, stretched is sort of, you know, a compensation given. but, you know, people are driving cars that are a lot, lot bigger than they were only 20 years ago. we

need to people of their need to get people out of their cars, buses and onto their, cars, onto buses and onto their, like cars because like going in cars because because we achieve net because we need to achieve net zero north east somerset, in zero in north east somerset, in my well that's my constituency. well that's impractical. well, i'm not saying that we obviously you do it much more in london, which is what we're talking about here and less in rural areas. isn't there a fundamental and of course, with the decline of our bus doesn't help, bus system that doesn't help, but there a fundamental but isn't there a fundamental principle but isn't there a fundamental priryoue but isn't there a fundamental priryou say it feels unfair that >> you say it feels unfair that as a motorist you are guilty until prove yourself until you prove yourself innocent , until you prove yourself innocent, and that turns justice on head? innocent, and that turns justice on well,ad? innocent, and that turns justice on well, it? innocent, and that turns justice on well, it is , yeah, it is, but >> well, it is, yeah, it is, but you can imagine what the legal system would be like if it was the other way round. but that's a terrible argument. i know it is, be unjust for the is, but don't be unjust for the sake of convenience. are sake of convenience. what are you we don't punish you saying? that we don't punish people all for these? people at all for any of these? >> no, if it's, then people >> no, no. if it's, then people would ignore the. >> don't treat motorists >> you don't treat motorists like they're a piggy bank. and that's happening. and you that's what's happening. and you can reason why we can say, oh, the reason why we should do this is because of net zero. just ideology. should do this is because of net zero. just just ideology. should do this is because of net zero. just an just ideology. should do this is because of net zero. just an ideological)gy. that's just an ideological point. net as point. you're using net zero as if an axiom.

point. you're using net zero as if i an axiom. point. you're using net zero as if i thinkxiom. point. you're using net zero as if i think actually at times >> i think actually at times when our are falling when our councils are falling apart and do basic sorry, apart and can't do basic sorry, that's they're incompetent. >> it's not because they're incompetent. >> most councils more >> most councils are more competent government competent than the government that belong to, not that you used to belong to, not more than central more competent than central government. wildly government. and it's wildly inefficient their of inefficient in their use of pubuc inefficient in their use of public we finish , public money. before we finish, i'm going to give one point before finish, that is before we finish, and that is that the if the offence is worth prosecuting through the courts, it's worth prosecuting. >> if it's not worth prosecuting through the it's not through the courts, it's not worth that's worth prosecuting. and that's the fundamental inversion of our justice system. >> i agree that's not >> well, i agree that's not satisfactory agreement for michael for at least half . you michael for at least half. you cut me off, i cheated. >> isn't this what you started with, trump being tired of what you say out of context? >> oh, i'm sorry , i've taken >> oh, i'm sorry, i've taken i've taken michael out of context. >> coming up, i'll be speaking to one of the very few anglican christian clerics in ramallah, palestine. thank you. sorry about . patrick christys about that. patrick christys tonight , 9 to about that. patrick christys tonight, 9 to 11 pm. muslim prayers at train stations . are

prayers at train stations. are we becoming a secular society? trump hints that he'll deport prince harry if he becomes president. nigel farage will join us live for behind the scenes reaction to his interview with the big man, james bond. is it good that the new bond is a straight white male, a labour government, trans kids at schools, asylum seekers getting a monthly allowance, 20 mile an houn a monthly allowance, 20 mile an hour, zones everywhere and an obsession with identity politics is what's happening in wales , is what's happening in wales, paving the way for keir starmer in downing street. don't miss patrick christys tonight, nine till 11 pm. be

i >> welcome back. last week, his grace. the archbishop of canterbury held a meeting with the anglican cleric of saint andrew's church in ramallah, palestine, in which the two discussed the war in gaza. the archbishop published a statement following meeting, he following the meeting, which he expressed regret for expressed sorrow and regret for the misery and suffering in gaza

and bank. meeting and the west bank. this meeting illuminates the little known fact is not only fact that there is not only a palestine christian minority , palestine christian minority, but smaller but also an even smaller palestine minority . palestine anglican minority. roughly 7000 people in the diocese jerusalem in total, diocese of jerusalem in total, about 47,000 palestinians are christian, making up about 2% of the total population. sometimes amidst the current conflict, it's easy to forget that the west bank is the home of the birthplace of our lord and saviour jesus christ in bethlehem. well, i'm joined now by the reverend doctor father diab of saint andrew's anglican church ramallah, palestine . church in ramallah, palestine. thank you so much for coming in. and it's very appropriate that you've come from the west bank and is in the west and bethlehem is in the west bank. is the feast of bank. and today is the feast of saint so the holy family saint joseph. so the holy family very much in our thoughts today and your community must feel very, besieged at the moment. it must be very hard to to minister them. >> thank you for having me. i thank you for. right. the palestinian community in general and the palestinian christian

community in particular, do face existential level, threat and really hard , time during these, really hard, time during these, these six months. but of course, this is not like, you know , a this is not like, you know, a six month, hardship. it's a long history of subjugation, long history of subjugation, long history of subjugation, long history of oppression , long history of oppression, long history of oppression, long history of oppression, long history of military occupation. and that's why i think, it's this is this is a tough cycle in that history of pain and suffering . and as we as, as you suffering. and as we as, as you mentioned , as we celebrate the mentioned, as we celebrate the holy family , we continue to care holy family, we continue to care very much about our families , very much about our families, our, our parents, our children and, and what the future is bringing for them. >> and i was looking up saint porphyrius, who was the bishop of gaza in, what about the fifth century and that he had great difficulties in dealing with the

pagans, who were very opposed to him at that time. pagans, who were very opposed to him at that time . do you feel a him at that time. do you feel a link to the early days of the church in your ministry to having to cope with so much difficulty and yet finding in your flock such faith? >> well, i think we before even the fifth century, i think we need to go a little bit back , need to go a little bit back, we, relate very much to the, person and minister of jesus who himself suffered under colonial structure of the roman empire . structure of the roman empire. and we understand very much how the first disciples themselves were persecuted . and then they were persecuted. and then they scattered around, and actually in the in the first four, five centuries, the christian communities , continued to, be be communities, continued to, be be persecuted for their faith. but they maintained strong faith

and, and the love of god through jesus christ and it is very similar today as we maintain in our faith as we continue to live the love of god in jesus christ as we continue to witness in christ. of course we continue to face hardships like, political hardships, economic hardships, social hardships, cultural hardships. and that is why to be a christian in the holy land, in such a situation is not easy. >> indeed. and this week , palm >> indeed. and this week, palm sunday comes on sunday. the grand entry into jerusalem of christ. and then, of course , all christ. and then, of course, all that happens in the following week. it's a time both of trial, but with great hope at the end of it. does your flock have that great hope, or are you in an almost perpetual lent? >> well, i think you know , one >> well, i think you know, one of the bishops in jerusalem on

christmas day said, christmas in jerusalem is like good friday. how sad the city was then. and i continue to describe even though, the christian community will never lose hope, but it's going through, a deep despair, dang going through, a deep despair, during these very times, they're very distressed psychologically depressed, economically , you depressed, economically, you know, struggling, as you know, for now , six months, their for now, six months, their permits of work were revoked, they can't move from one place to place. lots of restrictions. a lot of uncertainties about the future, a lot of fear. so there is this, you know, walking the via dolorosa. these, these times, but deep in our faith, deepin times, but deep in our faith, deep in our hearts, we know that

the resurrection means that, god has the final word, not the human power . human power. >> but you're so important as a leader of the faithful , it >> but you're so important as a leader of the faithful, it must be a great pressure on you to have to cope with so many difficulties. and also that trying to keep the hope for people that there will be better days with all these difficulties that are going on. >> of course , of course. i mean, >> of course, of course. i mean, we at the end, we are human beings. there, there there are times when we feel weak. there are times when we as clergy, as leaders of the community, we feel weak. we feel abandoned. we feel weak. we feel abandoned. we feel , you know, feel weak. we feel abandoned. we feel, you know, angry, which is which is normal . and that's why which is normal. and that's why ikeep which is normal. and that's why i keep saying to myself and my, you know, colleagues and community, it is this face that christ walks with us through these trials. it is this fake faith that christ wouldn't abandon his flock, his faithful community, that keeps us moving.

but also it is , you know, but also it is, you know, brothers and sisters in christ around the world who continue to encourage, sustain , support, encourage, sustain, support, reach out. i think both, the, the concrete faith in the love of god in jesus christ, who himself walked through the via dolorosa , continues to walk in dolorosa, continues to walk in the pain of his community. but also it's the christian community at large that doesn't forget those in pain. >> well, thank you very much for your amazing witness and for joining me this evening. your amazing witness and for joining me this evening . thank joining me this evening. thank you. that's all from me. up next is patrick christys patrick. what have you got on your bill of fare this evening ? of fare this evening? >> so network rail have decided to remove this controversial ramadan message from their concourse. this story is absolutely bonkers. we have the inside track on it. nigel farage joins us for the behind the scenes goss from the president trump interview. we look at labour's record in wales as well

and beyond. is it right that he's a straight white man? >> well, always talking about bondis >> well, always talking about bond is interesting, >> well, always talking about bond is interesting , that's all bond is interesting, that's all coming up after the weather. i'll be back tomorrow at 8:00. i'm jacob rees—mogg. this has been state of the nation. oh, and somerset. and the weather in somerset. fantastic. glorious, wonderful . fantastic. glorious, wonderful. perfect >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hi there and welcome to the latest gb news forecast from the met office. cloud will thicken for many of us over the next 24 hours, turning damp, but the rain does ease later on. now we're going to see weather system approach from the southwest associated with an area of low pressure that's forming at the moment, and that's going to push a finger of rain into much of wales southwest england, and then overnight, northern ireland, southern, eventually central scotland, as well as parts of the midlands and east anglia.

now the far southeast, likely to stay mainly dry. ten celsius here and the far northwest of scotland also dry, with clear spells. touch of frost as we start off wednesday, that's the best place for any bright weather first thing. elsewhere, a lot of cloud cover, those spells of rain continuing through the morning, turning heavy for a time across parts of wales northern england wales and northern england before the rain before eventually the rain fragments pulls away. it fragments and pulls away. but it does tend to stay damp across this central swathe of the uk. a few showers elsewhere, but actually western scotland, northern brightening northern ireland brightening up nicely . feeling fresh here but nicely. feeling fresh here but feeling south—east, feeling warm in the south—east, where will be some where there will be some afternoon sunshine highs afternoon sunshine and highs of 18 is a very 18 celsius. thursday is a very different day. we start the day with outbreaks of heavy rain across the north—west, strong winds moving in as well, across the north—west, strong winds moving in as well , the winds moving in as well, the rain spreading across northern ireland and scotland during the morning early afternoon, morning and early afternoon, thickening england morning and early afternoon, thiciwales. england morning and early afternoon, thiciwales. but england morning and early afternoon, thiciwales. but rain england morning and early afternoon, thiciwales. but rain notland and wales. but the rain not arriving here until much later on friday. a return to sunny spells and blustery showers. the heaviest downpours towards the

northwest along with gusty winds. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers spot hours of weather on

gb news. >> it's 11:00. you're with gp >> it's11:00. you're with gp news. i'm polly middlehurst and we begin this bulletin with some breaking news coming to us concerning the princess of wales. we understand an investigation has reportedly had to be launched at the london clinic over claims that staff there tried to access the princess of wales's private medical records. the mirror newspaper has reported that at least one member of staff tried to access kate's notes while she was a patient at the private hospital in central london in january . of hospital in central london in january. of course, we hospital in central london in january . of course, we know january. of course, we know princess catherine was admitted to the hospital for planned abdominal surgery at the beginning of this year , and has

beginning of this year, and has been recovering at home ever since. she was seen out with her husband, the prince of wales, at a farm shop in windsor at the weekend. but that investigation has been launched at the london clinic after one member of staff reportedly tried to access her private medical records. we'll ang private medical records. we'll bring you more on that, of course, as that story develops throughout the week . throughout the rest of the week. now, in other news tonight, former president donald trump former us president donald trump has hinted could deport has hinted he could deport prince he wins the us prince harry if he wins the us election. in an exclusive interview with nigel farage tonight, he said the duke of sussex won't be getting special privileges if he lied on his visa about drug use, if they know something about the drugs and if he lied, i'll have to take appropriate action, appropriate action? >> yeah, which might mean not staying in america. >> you'll have to tell me. you just have to tell me. you would. you would have thought they would have known this a long time ago. you would. but i thought they were very disrespectful family, to disrespectful to the family, to the family. i'm a fan the royal family. i'm a big fan of concept the royal