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gb news. >> it's 9 pm. on patrick christys tonight , right.7 christys tonight, right.7 >> it seems to be full of what they termed a prospective immigrants , which are really, immigrants, which are really, like illegals . like illegals. >> britain's seaside towns treated as migrant dumping grounds also, but with enormous and enduring gratitude to have had the opportunity to serve the country. >> i love. >> i love. >> good riddance. theresa may
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and no one should be jailed for simply using or having on their record . should we legalise record. should we legalise cannabis? also >> assalamu alaikum, my dear friends. how are you ? friends. how are you? >> a labour shadow cabinet minister has spent tens of thousands of pounds and taxpayers to money learn arabic so she can speak to refugees. on my panel tonight it's the director of the popular conservatives. it's mark littlewood , ex bbc political littlewood, ex bbc political chief, john sergeant and apprentice finalist joanna jarjue. oh, and lock them up . jarjue. oh, and lock them up. get ready, britain, here we go. the french are laughing at us. next .
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next. >> good evening. i'm sam francis in the newsroom . a recap of the in the newsroom. a recap of the headunes in the newsroom. a recap of the headlines at nine. and we start with news from northern ireland, where families of alleged informers were killed by the informers who were killed by the ira say another step towards truth has been made today after a report into the activities of a report into the activities of a double agent was published. the investigation revealed. it's likely that more lives were lost than saved by the spy, codenamed stakeknife. he was working covertly for the british army inside the ira's internal security unit, and they're known for abductions, torture and murder . for abductions, torture and murder. well, for abductions, torture and murder . well, stakeknife for abductions, torture and murder. well, stakeknife is widely believed to have been a west belfast man who was 77 when he died last year. solicitor kevin winters, who represents a number of the victims families , number of the victims families, says the agent needs to be officially identified . officially identified. >> the decision not to name fred scappaticci as the agent stakeknife has been difficult for many to accept the legal and
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tactical rationale for doing so will be lost on many people, particularly the next of kin of those murdered . those murdered. >> george galloway says that he has hundreds of candidates ready to run in the next general election. the leader of the workers party was sworn into parliament on monday following his by—election win last week. speaking to neil oliver earlier, the mp said his success in rochdale was the last straw that broke the camel's back. >> the spread of candidates, challengers , new parties, challengers, new parties, independent candidates and so on is now proceeding like wildfire . is now proceeding like wildfire. >> if i tell you that i have now in my pocket, more than 300 prospective parliamentary candidates , all paying their own candidates, all paying their own election expenses by the way, because we can't pay them more than 300 workers party parliamentary candidate . imagine
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parliamentary candidate. imagine that. >> well, you can see that full interview with george galloway now on youtube and online on our website, gbnews.com. or of course, tune in on sunday live with neil oliver at 6:00. in other news, theresa may has criticised the coarsening political climate after revealing she will stand down at the next general election. she joins an exodus of conservative mps from the commons with almost 60 now planning to leave parliament, rishi sunak and other political figures have today praised the former prime minister for her dedicated pubuc minister for her dedicated public service . downing street public service. downing street says the prime minister does take concerns about the impact of pro—palestine protests extremely seriously, following claims that london has become a no go zone forjews. it's after no go zone for jews. it's after rishi sunak said extremists are trying to tear the country apart, writing in the telegraph, the government's counter extremism tsar said it was right to raise concerns. he also said
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ministers need to be willing to accept higher legal risk when tackling extremism . police have tackling extremism. police have confirmed tonight that broadcaster india willoughby's accusations of misgendering by the authorjk accusations of misgendering by the author jk rowling accusations of misgendering by the authorjk rowling does not meet criminal thresholds. willoughby, who is transgender, had reported the author to the police for an alleged hate crime after calling her a man on social media. the harry potter writer rejected the allegations, though, saying that it's not a crime to hold gender critical views. and finally, some remarkable news into us. in the last few hours, the police in nonh last few hours, the police in north yorkshire have arrested an 11 year old boy who was caught driving a bmw down the mi whilst towing a suspected stolen caravan. officers said that they were staggered when they found the boy driving on the motorway. he's now facing charges including theft, burglary and dangerous driving, but thankfully no injuries were reported . those are the reported. those are the headlines. more at 10:00. in the meantime , you can sign up to gb
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meantime, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the code there on your screen. or go to gb news .com/ alerts. but now it's back to . patrick. it's back to. patrick. >> our mps are playing roulette with our lives because they just can't be asked to do their jobs anymore. in france, they've been tackling extremism head on, strengthening their laws, expelling radical imams, closing extremist schools and mosques, cutting funding for islamist charities . they have the balls charities. they have the balls to confront the failures of multiculturalism . they ban the multiculturalism. they ban the veil in schools and in the civil service. they tried to force integration here. our civil service sends all staff emails about world hijab day , whilst about world hijab day, whilst a dodgy asylum seeker who doused a woman and child with acid was still on the loose. and a video emerged yesterday as well, showing, well, frankly, that they'd all just given up, didn't they? a civil servant out on the for stump george galloway, rishi sunak's solution is to change
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the definition of extremism, come up with a framework and try to appease people by getting jeremy hunt to open the budget with a statue for muslim war veterans . we have record levels veterans. we have record levels of mass migration that is ripping this country apart, socially crippling us financially . we have a housing financially. we have a housing crisis that requires something radical in order to sort it. we have record nhs waiting lists. we need new hospitals. what we've been given is pharmacists essentially doing gp appointments. we don't have enough schools. as it stands, 1 in 5 schools are full or have more children than they're supposed to. what are we doing about that ? nothing. jeremy hunt about that? nothing. jeremy hunt unveils a labour budget written by the obr. he designed a budget singularly around let's not do anything controversial instead of what will help people's lives or get votes. now, i found that baffling initially , but then baffling initially, but then last night i realised what's happening . they've stopped
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happening. they've stopped caring. they don't want to do what it takes to sort any of this stuff out, because all they're bothered about now is protecting their legacy. on the dinner party circuit. theresa may is the latest rat to jump off the sinking ship. she won't be running for re—election . she be running for re—election. she joins 58 other conservative mps. i think it is now. it might have gone up in the last few minutes for ex conservative mps. one former snp mp who now sits with the conservatives, and five conservative mps who have said that they won't stand for re—election in their current seat but might give it a go somewhere else. so i think i make that now. 69 mps in total from our ruling party basically are off sajid javid not content with getting his £1 million statue for muslim war veterans, said something unbelievable last night. he essentially endorsed sir keir starmer. he said if i woke up the day after the election and keir starmer was standing outside 10 downing
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street, i'm not going to be frightened, right? i would have beenif frightened, right? i would have been if it had been corbyn. there are actually very strong rumours about chancellor jeremy hunt not standing at the next election . he denies them. paul election. he denies them. paul scully mentions no go zones and issues a grovelling apology. and then he says he's quitting tory party donations have dropped by a third. they are down to 18% in the opinion polls , and about 60 the opinion polls, and about 60 of them have literally told us that they don't want to do their jobs anymore. they would rather that you and i live with massive societal problems and the constant threat of islamism. then work hard to sort it out. they are too afraid of protecting their reputations to do anything. the reality is, though, they haven't got a reputation to protect. let's get the thoughts of my panel this evening. i am joined by former bbc chief political correspondent is john sergeant, director, popular conservatives, it's mark littlewood and of course entrepreneur and
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apprentice finalist joanna jarjue. mark, i'll start with you on this. why can't they be asked anymore to keep us safe and sort this country out? >> well, you know, hang on a second, patrick. let's do a little bit of maths here. these people are public servants, you might argue, but they're not indentured slaves . right. this indentured slaves. right. this is. i think i've just done the maths here. this is about 1 in 5 conservative mps standing down at the moment. it will go a lot higher than that, by the way, but that seems to me about a natural rate of attrition. right. you'd probably expect people serve, don't know, people to serve, i don't know, 4 or terms and then step down. or 5 terms and then step down. it seems to me in theresa may's case, perfectly sensible. she wants something with wants to do something else with her life. she's, i think, performed pretty well in parliament since standing down as do you think they're going to >> do you think they're going to be to sort out be energised, mark, to sort out any the of things that any of the kind of things that we've got going on we've actually got going on right the time that right now? by the time that rishi extremism rishi sunak's extremism framework works itself through, how jews how many more hundreds of jews are be appallingly abused? >> no. you're right. listen, patrick, i share your disappointment the budget
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disappointment about the budget as mean , you know, as well. this i mean, you know, i'm a supporter of the conservative party, but sometimes you get the feeling that whilst the wheel is turning, the hamster dead . turning, the hamster is dead. and, doesn't seem to be and, there doesn't seem to be any, you know, imaginative thought. the budget was very, very small ball, a couple of baubles in it that i quite liked. but in terms of the overarching problems facing britain, fear the britain, i sometimes fear the government hasn't got a grip on them to speak of. >> john, i was wondering >> and john, i was wondering last may last night when theresa may became one to jump became the latest one to jump off. like i you know, off. and like i said, you know, by the this shows out, by the time this shows out, there'll probably few there'll probably be a few others actually, whether not others actually, whether or not we a general we should just have a general election. you know, it does seem we should just have a general eln. you know, it does seem we should just have a general el
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when sinking , when the ship starts sinking, that's when they basically dip. and see that , you and you just can see that, you know, there's a lot of greed. there's a lot of, you know, sleaze that seen. and now sleaze that we've seen. and now that that their success that they see that their success rate likely actually rate isn't likely to actually get to it has been get to what it has been previously, ready to previously, they're ready to basically and i'm not basically jump ship. and i'm not surprised theresa may at surprised about theresa may at the of the day, she's close the end of the day, she's close to retirement age , but also at to retirement age, but also at the same time, i think theresa may career has learnt a may in her career has learnt a lot of lessons after hostile lot of lessons after the hostile environment and even now i think the whole rwanda thing is probably quite a bit. probably triggered quite a bit. and obviously she's been quite outspoken about the outspoken about that in the house of commons about, you know, trafficking know, risks to trafficking victims things like that. so victims and things like that. so i think now she's probably just disgusted party that she disgusted at the party that she once loved. >> a lot of people, though, john, around, it's john, looking around, it's not just about the islamist threat. you know, we've housing you know, we've got a housing crisis something crisis that does need something radical whether it's the radical doing, whether it's the reform planning or reform of planning laws or whether having the whether it's someone having the bottle to just stand up and go, right, are building right, look, we are building this of houses every this amount of houses every single is single year. this is the schools, the things you schools, the things like, you know in primary schools now
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know, 1 in 5 primary schools now are at capacity or capacity know, 1 in 5 primary schools now awhere apacity or capacity know, 1 in 5 primary schools now awhereapacityikids capacity know, 1 in 5 primary schools now awhereapacity
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because there are lots of people who would love to come in and they would then have their heart set on going into government and doing some. >> there are real world consequences for this, mark, and you look at that budget and you think, you know what the nation needs, what people need. if we've chancellor whose we've got a chancellor whose main i suspect it main concern, as i suspect it is, was standing at that despatch and just not despatch box and just not not spooking let's not spooking the horses, let's not do let's just get do anything. let's just get through this. i don't want much controversy. that's actually controversy. that's not actually what the country needs. >> right. you >> no, you're right. and you mentioned in your in your remarks, and i know you remarks, patrick, and i know you did it slightly tongue in cheek, but i think only slightly tongue in cheek. the obr, the office for budget responsibility , now for budget responsibility, now effectively writes the budget. i don't to overstate that , don't want to overstate that, but it sets margins within which the chancellor operates about how much fiscal headroom he has. it's almost as if the obr is sort of washing out pocket money to jeremy hunt, and he's then deciding how to spend it . and deciding how to spend it. and although you can see the temptation want an temptation to want an
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independent watchdog rather than politicians marking their own homework, i'd like there to be much more discretion for the chancellor of the exchequer. were these forecasts, even if well , are often well intentioned, are often miles out by tens of billions of pounds? i think the responsibility should sit on the shoulders an elected shoulders of an elected politician , not a bureaucrat, politician, not a bureaucrat, no, but look at what happened last time. >> it was in hands of >> it was in the hands of somebody like kwasi kwarteng. and he did and this and look at what he did and this is why i the penalty for that. >> but he was sacked. >> but he was sacked. >> yeah, he was sacked. okay. so if goes wrong, the politician if it goes wrong, the politician goes, yeah, lost his job. goes, yeah, but he lost his job. all but i'm sure he's all right. but i'm sure he's absolutely fine. he's doing much better can't better than the people who can't afford at the afford their mortgages at the moment. is the same moment. but this is the same argument people when argument that people have when they bank of they talk about the bank of england saying bank of england saying the bank of england saying the bank of england much power and england has too much power and but should but the bank of england should be independent and should be separate government. be independent and should be separat that, you >> i'm not saying that, you know, the know, i'm not saying that the bank england is kind of above bank of england is kind of above being criticised, but at the same i would not put it same time, i would not put it and doesn't left or and it doesn't matter left or right. would not put in right. i would not put it in a politician's hands to be able to. yeah. >> i mean, problem is that
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>> i mean, the problem is that as the economy is as far as the economy is concerned, going to take concerned, it's going to take time. matter how time. it doesn't matter how clever are, words clever you are, what words you use. just an use. this is just after an extremely period, extremely difficult period, particularly because the particularly because of the pandemic. is equivalent pandemic. now this is equivalent to a war. it's a real sort of you throw all the money you can at it because nobody knows quite what do. so all sorts of what to do. so all sorts of mistakes are made. but the key thing a lot money was thing is a lot of money was spent and that has to be paid for. if you're young for. now, if you're a young person coming into politics, you can know that the can say, well, you know that the wheel will turn, the recession will end, we'll get back into on the front foot. we'll be able to do x, y, and z. the older people just think, oh, whatever happens , we've got 3 or 4 more years of austerity. yeah, not much fun. >> just final word on this. i started that monologue there by talking about the fact that the french are now laughing at us over that are over the way that we are handung over the way that we are handling these protests over the way that we're handling multiculturalism and the way that islamism in that we're handling islamism in this country. and from what i can see right fact, what this country. and from what i cancane right fact, what this country. and from what i cancan alliht fact, what this country. and from what i cancan all see, fact, what this country. and from what i cancan all see, i fact, what this country. and from what i cancan all see, i fa is what we can all see, i think, is people who fundamentally do not have to do that.
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have the minerals to do that. and this is where the dinner party circuit in for me. party circuit comes in for me. if know they've only a if they know they've only got a few in office, let's few months left in office, let's not too not do anything too controversial. have controversial. let's just have a statue here £1 million statue over for here £1 million or something. let's a or something. let's have a tramp. >> t controversial, patrick. >> let's that. patrick. >> buts that. patrick. >> but it that. patrick. >> but it needs. patrick. >> but it needs someone with a bit bottle. all living bit of bottle. we're all living in this. >> but the strange here, >> but the strange thing here, and this as a member of and i say this as a member of the conservative is this, the conservative party, is this, isn't seems me isn't it? that seems to me a sensible strategy. if sensible electoral strategy. if you're government, you're the government, six months election you're the government, six mon15% election you're the government, six mon15% ahead election you're the government, six mon15% ahead in election you're the government, six mon15% ahead in the election you're the government, six mon15% ahead in the opinion)n and 15% ahead in the opinion polls , you would have thought if polls, you would have thought if you're at 18% in today's opinion polls , that the sensible polls, that the sensible electoral thing to even electoral thing to do, even putting aside the right thing for the country, would be to gamble a bit. that doesn't seem to so steady as to be much to lose, so steady as she is a pretty she goes is a pretty odd strategy. is what i'm saying. >> no, it's we're trapped is more the feeling of there's not much can much we can do. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> the more a feeling of >> and the more a feeling of just to cope just we need more time to cope with . this is what happens. with this. this is what happens. there are cycles, i think. >> i think you can't just beat the system. >> no. that's true. what are we going to borrow going to do? is borrow like crazy. it
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crazy. spend like crazy. it doesn't work. >> you can do >> the social stuff you can do the social stuff. and i think they don't to do that they don't want to do that because they're going because they know they're going to of office and they to be out of office and they don't any backlash don't want to get any backlash in the meantime. but anyway, look, up, pistols look, coming up, sex pistols legend lydon, a who legend john lydon, a man who clearly doesn't mind getting a bit britain's bit of backlash, calls britain's immigration crisis catastroph physically impact illegal laments the impact of illegal migration on britain's seaside resorts. rotten , resorts. is johnny rotten, right? plus, the shadow culture secretary has spent more than £20,000 of taxpayers money on arabic lessons so she can better communicate with her diverse constituency. after seven years of learning, it's thangam debbonaire at least fluent in the language, but it acts in our head to head with joe biden last night declaring that nobody should be sent to prison for using marijuana . should be using marijuana. should we be decriminalising it? over here i am joined medicinal am joined by the medicinal cannabis professor and a former prison going prison governor. they're going to see you in a to battle it out. see you in a sec
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i yes. -- yes. loads to go tonight. including this bizarre feminist for palestine movement who i think need a few home truths. but right now, it's time for our head to head. well, joe biden delivered a state of the union speech last night. and amongst taking aim at donald trump and ad libbing most of a feisty immigration exchange , the immigration exchange, the president told americans that he wants no one jailed for using or
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possessing marijuana . possessing marijuana. >> hinckley my cabinet to review the federal classification of marijuana and expunging thousands of convictions for the mere possession , because no one mere possession, because no one should be jailed for simply using or have it on their record i >>i -- >> i got about half of that, i'll be honest. but anyway, said something about marijuana. so biden is encouraging a more positive cannabis . positive outlook on cannabis. it's worth remembering that in 2022, biden pardoned thousands of convicted marijuana possession, and in 24 us states, the drug is legal for recreational use. it's called upon regulated to review whether cannabis should be reclassified with the us health department last year recommending its removal from america's most restrictive category list . well, restrictive category list. well, look, i thought, how is this going to affect us over here? everywhere you walk now, there seems to be the stench of cannabis. but according to a pew research survey from research centre survey from april 2023, so 59% of americans say marijuana should be legal
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and apparently 18.7% of americans use the drug, according to the office for national statistics. here, an estimated 7.6% of people aged between 16 and 59 in the uk. so 2.5 million of us reported using cannabis last year. that's a lie, obviously. i mean, the obvious, obviously that's complete rubbish anyway, right ? complete rubbish anyway, right? it's legal in more than 40 countries and the cannabis industry is projected to reach a revenue of $60.79 billion. so look, where are you on this? should we be legalising cannabis over here? i'm joined now by consultant neurologist and medical cannabis expert professor mark barnes and retired prison governor and author vanessa frake. both of you, thank you very much. and vanessa, should we legalise cannabis over here, do you think ? >> 7- >> no, i 7— >> no, i don't 7_ >> no, i don't i 7 >> no, i don't i don't think so. you know , you could look at it you know, you could look at it that it's pretty well legal as
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is . you know, if you caught in is. you know, if you caught in possession with cannabis, i think the fines something like £90, if that, you may get just a warning, you know, and for deaung warning, you know, and for dealing it, it's the prison sentence is something between six months and seven years maximum. you know, i don't i don't think that i think we've got much more to worry ourselves about than whether we should or should not. legalise cannabis. i also think that you know, i've seen prisoners coming into jail who have long terme side effects from, long terme use of cannabis raising, raging, raging from, you know, psychosis, depression , you know, psychosis, depression, anxiety, and in some cases even, even the onset of schizophrenia. so you know, i don't i don't actually agree with the whole let's legalise it and say, you know, away you go. it's all very well if it's if it's done in a controlled manner , you know, controlled manner, you know, it's in a sterile area, you
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know, people, people use it as medicinal. i accept that, but there are very vulnerable people in our society who get addicted very quickly and go from cannabis to harder drugs . cannabis to harder drugs. >> well, you've covered a lot there and i will come back to you. i'll bring in professor mark barnes, now consultant neurologist medical cannabis neurologist and medical cannabis expert massively expert. so all right, massively paraphrasing but it's paraphrasing here, but it's a gateway drug that can have massive health consequences , a massive health consequences, a quick answer to that is no, it's not a gateway drug. >> of course it can have health consequences . consequences. >> no. no drug, no medicine is entirely safe , you're quite entirely safe, you're quite right. it can cause psychosis in vulnerable people, particularly with high thc use . with high thc use. >> so it's not entirely safe. nothing is entirely safe . nothing is entirely safe. alcohol is not entirely safe. tobacco is not entirely safe. >> driving a car's not entirely safe , so i would eventually, safe, so i would eventually, agree that it should be legalised. but i say eventually,
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and i mean that because we in 2018, we legalised cannabis for medical purposes, which i think was a great step forward. but since then, over five years ago, we've only got 36,000 people on legal prescribed medical cannabis. you may say that sounds a big number, but when you compare it to estimated to be 1.8 million people who use cannabis daily for medical purposes , really that that purposes, really that that legalisation of the medical scene hasn't gone well at all. so what i want to see is the medical scene got right first. so people who need it for chronic conditions can get it for their chronic conditions without the need to go in the private sector and without the need to continue to get it from the market. the black market. >> okay. and mean, vanessa , >> okay. and i mean, vanessa, you're seeing all of the negatives when you were in prison. you want to just talk prison. do you want to just talk to us a little about some of to us a little bit about some of the that you saw that the things that you saw that were related? saw you were cannabis related? i saw you shaking there when, shaking your head there when, mark wasn't mark said that it wasn't a gateway . gateway drug. >> well, i think i think it is a
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gateway drug. certainly when you're when you have vulnerable people that that only people using it that that only get a high for so long and then look for something, you know, more and more and more and, you know, we've had people come into prison who are clean , who go out prison who are clean, who go out either on cannabis or worse . either on cannabis or worse. and, you know, i think, i think it's very naive to think that that it's not a gateway and people don't go on to, to use it. i have no problem with it being used in medical circumstances at all. i know, you know, like many illicit drugs , there are some benefits drugs, there are some benefits to it. that is not my issue . my to it. that is not my issue. my issue is, is by saying to everybody, particularly the vulnerable in our society, that, you know, crack on and use use it as, as and when. >> yeah . look, mark, i mean, you >> yeah. look, mark, i mean, you only have to go outside this office on my walk home and you just smell it everywhere. i mean , there's, i mean, cities stink of cannabis from end to end at the moment. right? so i mean, i
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suppose an argument would be if everybody who wants to do it is already doing it, why pay criminals to make it and bring it to you when essentially, i suppose the state could do that and we could tax it? >> well, that's that is a reasonable argument. it's estimated that the cannabis industry would create about 100,000 jobs. if you if you extrapolate from the states, it would raise several billion pounds worth of tax income. but more importantly, other than those economic arguments , is those economic arguments, is that you can provide the people who want to use cannabis perfectly, reasonably safe, regulated product. at the moment you can get adulterated product. it's quite a problem at the moment , it's quite a problem at the moment, going to the criminal black market, getting a adulterated product all adulterated product with all sorts of health consequences to that provide that so you can provide a cleaner , safer, regulated market cleaner, safer, regulated market that's a benefit to the economy . that's a benefit to the economy. so i can't see an issue with that. >> mark, i'm just going to stick with you on this now. so i can remember reading headlines when i was younger. i think mainly
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because my parents used to show them me now again, them to me every now and again, which know, that which was say, you know, that kind the daily kind of headline in the daily mail, which was my, my little timmy one of cannabis timmy had one puff of a cannabis cigarette, and now he's got paranoid yeah. cigarette, and now he's got parait>id yeah. cigarette, and now he's got parait>id that yeah. cigarette, and now he's got parait>id that bad yeah. cigarette, and now he's got parait>id that bad ? yeah. cigarette, and now he's got parait>id that bad ? can’eah. cigarette, and now he's got parait>id that bad ? can itah. cigarette, and now he's got parait>id that bad ? can it have can it be that bad? can it have that much of an impact on people ? >> 7 >> basically, that is, it can in some people , if you're some people, if you're vulnerable already, if you had a psychotic episode already, you've got a close family relative who's had psychosis or schizophrenia . then taking high schizophrenia. then taking high thc, particularly cannabis, can can trigger that. that is definitely there. but the risk of that is really very low. there was a very interesting study by a doctor called hickman in 2008. i think it was that showed you how to stop 10,000 young men and 29,000 young women from smoking cannabis to prevent one episode of psychosis . so one episode of psychosis. so yes, it's a risk. yes, people with psychosis shouldn't take it. but is it a big risk? no, it's not. >> yeah. and just a final word from you on this, vanessa. you know, in your experience as a prison governor. look, you must have people who'd have seen people who'd got
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themselves sucked into the criminal. talk about criminal. when we talk about gateway it's actually gateway drug, it's not actually just users. i think. i just the drug users. i think. i think lot people maybe think a lot of people maybe start dealing cannabis, and start out dealing cannabis, and then into the harness, then they go into the harness, then they go into the harness, then find themselves then they find themselves with longer prison sentences, etc. you have criminal you must have seen that criminal underworld there. it's nasty business. >> yeah, absolutely . you know, >> yeah, absolutely. you know, it always starts small. it starts , you know, with the starts, you know, with the occasional joint from, from from your mate. and then of course, your mate. and then of course, you want another one and then you've got no money to buy any, and then you go out nicking things and then you get, caught and then you end up in prison and then you end up in prison and then you end up in prison and then , you know, cannabis in, and then, you know, cannabis in, in worse. three, four in a jail is worse. three, four times what it's worth on the street. so you know, this this whole sort of episode just seems to snowball and snowball. and i'm thinking, well, why? why are we going to make this easier? >> look, both of you, >> yeah. look, both of you, thank much. really good thank you very much. really good stuff, enjoyed it. i was stuff, i enjoyed it. i was a consultant neurologist and medical expert. medical cannabis expert. professor barnes, and professor mark barnes, and retired and retired prison governor and author think we author vanessa frake. i think we very did get both sides of very much did get both sides of it didn't who do you
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it there, didn't we? who do you agree with? should marijuana laws relaxed even scrapped laws be relaxed or even scrapped here, think? in the uk, here, do you think? in the uk, dalton i used to think, dalton says i used to think, yes, but i'm worried it would be a real gateway i think a real gateway drug. i think more should be done more research should be done into effects of the brain of into the effects of the brain of young people use it before young people who use it before we legalising we consider it legalising it, loos personally sick loos says. personally i'm sick of the of on the of the smell of drugs on the street. needs more street. it needs more enforcement. is that side enforcement. there is that side of there? ollie says of it, isn't there? ollie says this a or question. of it, isn't there? ollie says this all a or question. of it, isn't there? ollie says this all for or question. of it, isn't there? ollie says this all for as or question. of it, isn't there? ollie says this all for as or freedom. of it, isn't there? ollie says this all for as or freedom as i am all for as much freedom as possible . but imagine if possible. but imagine if somebody turns up to stoned somebody turns up to work stoned and causes an incident that huns and causes an incident that hurts or worse, kills somebody who pays your compensation. yeah. series a good point. this right . well, i can safely say right. well, i can safely say this is the closest poll we have ever done here on patrick christys tonight, 47% of you think that marijuana laws should be relaxed or scrapped. 53% of you say it shouldn't. we're in an eu referendum territory here, people. so anyway, thank you for taking part in that. but coming up, feminists for palestine groups have been marching around the world tonight to mark international women's and international women's day, and
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we'll the latest on we'll bring you the latest on this pro—palestine lunacy . and i this pro—palestine lunacy. and i think just to add a bit of perspective on this, i will be joined later on by the israeli government spokesman, ellen levy, who's actually going to remind the world what hamas have done and continue to do to women in their area and, well, sex pistols legend john lydon calls britain's immigration crisis catastrophically disappointing and laments the impact of illegal migration on britain's seaside resorts. it's johnny rotten, right? but next, the shadow culture secretary has spent more than £20,000 of your money on arabic lessons. so apparently she can better communicate with a diverse constituency . after seven years, constituency. after seven years, seven years of learning is thangam debbonaire at least fluent in the language as she ever used it? patrick christys tonight on
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gb news. welcome back to patrick christys tonight. now, you're all probably familiar now with labour mp thangam debbonaire . labour mp thangam debbonaire. well, earlier this week, she slammed performances of rule britannia at last night of the proms. she said they were alienating all the tories. julie criticised debbonaire for having little pride in britain, and it turns out that she's been receiving arabic lessons okay, at the expense of the british taxpayer since she began classes in 2017. records revealed by the daily mail show that the
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taxpayers is you, me, everyone we know has paid £20,800 to allow debbonaire to communicate with middle eastern refugees in her constituency. last year alone, she spent £4,344 on arabic lessons. that's a huge surge from the £2,697 she had spent. it's not her spending, is it? it's us spending it anyway we'd spent by 2018. so while this is not against parliamentary rules, which i find remarkable, by the way , we find remarkable, by the way, we did put some questions to thangam debbonaire earlier on about her learning the language. okay. given that she's been learning arabic now for more than seven years, we asked her if she was fluent. how often has she actually used arabic in her everyday duties as a member of parliament? is there actually any evidence that she can provide if her effectively using arabic on public record ? she arabic on public record? she didn't reply. and maybe we should have asked her in arabic anyway to discuss this. now i'm
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joined by panellist, former joined by my panellist, former bbc political bbc chief political correspondent sergeant, correspondent john sergeant, director of popular conservatives mark littlewood, an entrepreneur and social commentator. jarjue , commentator. joanna jarjue, mark, i'll start with you on this. why the flipping heck is the taxpayer paying 20 grand for tangentyere debbonaire to be able to speak to refugees? >> yeah, it's a point. at >> yeah, it's a fair point. at first blush, isn't it? and i kind thought that. and then kind of thought that. and then i sort of read the story. and is it it's refugees ? is it because it's refugees? is that problem, patrick? that your problem, patrick? there's mp who's there's a conservative mp who's spent more on getting polish lessons. i think that's for his constituent . constituent. >> it's rather than that is he is polish. is already polish. >> believe so, but here's my >> i believe so, but here's my issue with it. not actually issue with it. it's not actually the, the principle of it. i the, the, the principle of it. i can understand you can argue whether this right side whether this is the right side of line, that an mp needs of the line, that an mp needs some assistance , but some linguistic assistance, but 20 grand. yeah, she should have a in arabic literature by a phd in arabic literature by now. i was looking through my mobile phone earlier. i won't read out the brand names, but you can get apps that teach you languages. £200 for a lifetime
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subscription, £200 for a lifetime subscription, 20 grand. this is absolutely extraordinary. so they should just use the cheaper version. but of course, as you rightly pointed out, patrick, when it's not their money, you don't see the sort of spending the same sort of spending constraint. yeah. >> it's same >> why. so it's the same question why are we paying for this? >> because it's needed. she's a pubuc >> because it's needed. she's a public servant. and also. well, yeah, but she's a public servant . and it's part of her job is . and it's part of herjob is she's got a certain amount of people in her constituency that may need service and may may need this service and may need to communicate clearly, need her to communicate clearly, then why she then i don't see why she shouldn't make that shouldn't kind of make that effort and use chat. >> gtp costs £9 a month. >> gtp costs £9 a month. >> well, look, i'm not saying that this shouldn't be any scrutiny when comes how that this shouldn't be any scrutirmoney, comes how that this shouldn't be any scrutirmoney, because; how that this shouldn't be any scrutirmoney, because even ow that this shouldn't be any scrutirmoney, because even 0\can't much money, because even i can't believe actually agree believe that i actually agree with but like with you for once. but like everything that you but everything that you said. but i can't believe spent she can't believe that it spent she spent that money, but at spent that much money, but at the time it needed . and the same time it is needed. and maybe dig deeper we'll maybe when we dig deeper we'll realise. not like she's realise. and it's not like she's the for this the one who's going for this wildly they're wildly expensive thing. they're clearly a similar program clearly on all a similar program because all, you know, because they're all, you know, not they're all at it.
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>> i mean, you could you could go to uni and study arabic twice, three times for that. john. no the point about it is that we all know how awful most people here are about learning languages . i mean, they just languages. i mean, they just think, oh no, we don't need to bother with that. and yet, if you come across people, as i've come across people recently who've been in this country for a time, still can't speak a long time, still can't speak engush a long time, still can't speak english very well. and if you are an area which she are in an area which she represents , which is bristol represents, which is bristol west, and lots of west, there are lots and lots of people , particularly older people, particularly older people. they're migrants, people. yes, they're migrants, they're not born in this country. and you also are trying to get them to integrate into our society. so it's not that stupid to make sure that your mp , when you're trying to explain how the system works, can actually speak not perfect fluent arabic, because that's too that takes too long. she's she's not she's not a young person then. so she needs to work quite hard to get enough fluency to sort of almost say
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hello and all the rest of 20 grand. >> wait, wait a minute , wait >> wait, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. >> all right. the other thing is this. if you were if you were an mp and you you could mp and you offered, you could have of languages. have all sorts of languages. icelandic one of the icelandic was one of the languages were offering. languages they were offering. mandarin . so you mandarin was another. so you can just what language just apply for what the language thing idea that, oh, thing is. the idea that, oh, i know what i'll do, i'll have an app' know what i'll do, i'll have an app, then i'll suddenly be able to arabic. come on. to speak arabic. come on. >> no, it a bit of work. >> no, it takes a bit of work. >> no, it takes a bit of work. >> private tutor in. no, >> it's private tutor in. no, but so you >> it's private tutor in. no, but to so you >> it's private tutor in. no, but to learn so you >> it's private tutor in. no, but to learn a so you >> it's private tutor in. no, but to learn a language you >> it's private tutor in. no, but to learn a language which have to learn a language which is extremely difficult, everyone thinks, . in five thinks, oh, it's simple. in five days can speak french. no, days you can speak french. no, it takes a very, very long time for an older person. shouldn't the people in. >> is there an argument to say that the people who speak arabic dont? that the people who speak arabic don't? don't the people her don't? don't the people in her constituency should do more to learn english, not the other way around? i think that's right. >> but obviously, i mean, if it's 20 ahead learn to it's 20 grand ahead to learn to speak english, that's going to be of bill, right? be one hell of a bill, right? >> though. is there were 4 or 5 years. but not years. yeah, but you're not exaggerate this. she's had 72 hours may
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hours of tuition. now you may say, oh , there should have been say, oh, there should have been 72 hours of tuition . 72 hours of tuition. >> how much is it costing an houn >> no. yeah, but don't forget she's got to be a moment. you don't know where the teaching is taking it's taking place. whether it's in a palace. a palace. palace. in a palace. >> all right. >> all right. >> okay. but you can laugh about it. you know? okay. so how how good are your language? is. are you so are you worried because it's arabic? are you worried because it's arabic? is that what you know? i'm just thinking. >> i'm worried. i'm still watching. about all watching. i'm worried about all of i'm worried. i'm of it. right i'm worried. i'm worried that it's costing taxpayers now taxpayers £20,000. i'm now concerned rate concerned that the hourly rate might be bonkers. she's only had 72 hours lessons. i'm 72 hours of lessons. i'm worried, frankly , a lack of worried, frankly, a lack of integration. think i integration. and i think it's i think it's shocking . the whole think it's shocking. the whole thing, top to bottom is a bit of a i think. a shocker, i think. >> well, probably as the language, don't about language, you don't care about whether mps can whether or not your mps can communicate properly with all theirthink that's important . you >> i think that's important. you don't whether or not don't care about whether or not people clotheslines . people live in clotheslines. >> john. i'd like to see evidence she's actually
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evidence that she's actually learning this language and using those gb questions were fair. >> i mean, i'm i'm very proudly trilingual. english, trilingual. speak. english, american and australian all fluently. how much? it didn't cost me much at all. picked it up as i went along, but we really, honestly, we may think it's funny, but when you see how hopeless people are, particularly mps , at speaking particularly mps, at speaking anything apart from english, do it in a budget, but also do it within a budget. >> well, if you're going to learn it as well, you should probably learn you know, probably learn in, you know, reading, speaking . reading, writing, speaking. >> it's i want to see the works of literature. can produce of literature. she can produce all of it. >> i'm laughing, saying it's pointless. think it's pointless. i say, i think it's too expensive, i agree, too expensive. >> and i think there's some serious to answer. serious questions to answer. like, any evidence like, have you got any evidence that ever used this? that you've ever used this? but anyway, for anyway, coming up, feminists for palestine groups have been marching across the world. tonight to mark international women's bring you women's day, i will bring you the very latest on this pro—palestine lunacy. plus, as thousands of activists are using this international women's day as a, you know, ability to try
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to actually spread the word for palestine, etc, i sat down with israeli government spokesman ellen levy to discuss the hamas atrocities against women, both israeli and palestinian , and how israeli and palestinian, and how these are being conveniently and appallingly ignored. it's patrick christys tonight on
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gb news. the sex pistols johnny rotten has rocked the boat this week. when he told lbc's andrew marr that immigration has caused animosity in seaside towns across the country. shall we have a little listen ? have a little listen? >> britain today is so, so catastrophically disappointing, a lot of this tour that i'm doing, will be in seaside towns, and, i mean, they really indicate how run down britain has become. it seems to be full of what they termed a prospective immigrant arts,
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which are really like illegals , which are really like illegals, not being cared for properly, but then shouldn't have been, accepted in such vast numbers because it's created a real, real animosity. >> all right. well, i mean, immigration in seaside towns is continually hit the headlines in recent years. hotels in places like blackpool, morecambe, scarborough and skegness have all been inundated with migrants and many local authorities have been calling on the government to help with the increasing demands on services. joining me now to reflect on john lydon's comments is conservative mp is dame andrea jenkins. dame andrea, thank you very much. is he right to say that seaside towns have been essentially turned into illegal migrant dumping grounds ? dumping grounds? >> i'm first of all, patrick. >> i'm first of all, patrick. >> i'm first of all, patrick. >> i mean, i, sort of grew up and went to school in a seaside town of cleethorpes. >> so i understand his nostalgia for childhood. >> and i even took clifford to
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butlin's skegness, about three years ago, which was an interesting experience , so, i interesting experience, so, i mean, john's right on so many things, isn't he? patrick is interestingly, is sang about anarchy in the uk. well, that's become a reality . and it's become a reality. and it's interesting also that a former punk anti establishment musician is saying what the public is thinking , is saying what the public is thinking, what the labour parliamentary party can't say, so i mean, i've said this week as part of my what i would do in the budget, i would stop putting illegal migrants in hotels . what illegal migrants in hotels. what if we went abroad illegally? we wouldn't get put up a hotel. wouldn't get put up in a hotel. so i can understand the pain that people in these that local people in these seaside towns are going through. but i think john sandy was right about the woke brigade. he was right was right right about brexit. he was right about trump and maybe about trump and biden, and maybe he be a conservative mp he could be a conservative mp what do you think, patrick? >> well, i think he'd liven things up, wouldn't he would things up, wouldn't he? he would definitely up. but definitely liven things up. but i or not seaside i wonder whether or not seaside towns specifically towns are specifically vulnerable unfortunately vulnerable because unfortunately , just given way that the
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, just given the way that the economy's and by that economy's moved and by that i mean, you know, you get cheap flights abroad now, so the flights abroad now, etc. so the british seaside taken british seaside town has taken a bit a battering, i think, in bit of a battering, i think, in many whether not many regards, whether or not they now as fodder they are seen now just as fodder for people to be sent to you know, if need be put up in social housing or some of those old bed and breakfast. and, you know, there's a lot of elderly communities in seaside towns now that will recognise where that will not recognise where they grew up and spent their whole lives . whole lives. >> no, i agree, and i mean, if you look, though, the 2019 election, we actually got, a few conservative mps in these seaside towns and it's seen record investment, which is great. but you're right, it's, mass migration , i mean, what the mass migration, i mean, what the 700,000 net that we saw last year , it is resulting in year, it is resulting in a cultural divide, and we're seeing it across europe. but it's a knock on effect. and you're right, it's a knock on effect. and you're right , there's a lot of you're right, there's a lot of older people retire to the seaside or they live there all their lives, but i don't think
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it's just in seaside towns. i mean, i think, we're seeing it across the uk and people are sick of it . you know, the sick of it. you know, the british people want this solving. i mean, it's a knock on effect on things like gp appointments, you know, trying to get and waiting this to get in a&e and waiting this mass migration amount is just way too high and we've got to fix it. and, you know, the idea that labour would actually , fix that labour would actually, fix it if they got into government is a joke, i think, patrick, because what we saw recently with the pressure that starmer put on the speaker, he put pressure because, the diverse communities who many labour mps represent, he put pressure on from these communities, demonstrates that they certainly would not tackle it in my books. >> no . i mean, labour's comment >> no. i mean, labour's comment is that they're going to smash the gangs and they're going to do to process people do more to process these people more which i think many more quickly, which i think many people potentially people think is potentially rolling wicket for rolling the wicket there for some asylum seeker some kind of asylum seeker amnesty, i know, having
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amnesty, which i know, having spoken jenrick spoken to robert jenrick was actually advised to had civil actually advised to be had civil servants were advising government to just government ministers to just have an amnesty and be done with it, so it does beg the question, what would what happen if, what would what would happen if, if labour got in power northern towns and in place in the midlands have been disproportionately also disproportionately affected also by, these migrant hotels as well? i mean, it is not just about the south of england, it is northern and midlands towns and seaside towns, isn't it? >> i mean, also , i mean, you try >> i mean, also, i mean, you try getting a, on the m1 motorway , getting a, on the m1 motorway, you try getting a hotel in a service station. i decided to travel back with my dog, dogs in the car, and, clifford, one time after a late vote and i was shattered driving. i thought, it's not a good time driving. i phoned virtually every hotel from, you know, from watford, right up to nottingham. every one was full. they didn't have one was full. they didn't have one room. and these are places where they let you take pets and everything. so i think there must be housing them in there as well. that's worth looking into.
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but it's everywhere now . like but it's everywhere now. like i said, we could save money on the budget stopped doing this. budget if we stopped doing this. we should not be putting up people taxpayers money. people out of taxpayers money. >> now look, dame andrea, thank you very much. absolute you very, very much. absolute pleasure the pleasure to have you on the show. that dame andrea show. that is, dame andrea jenkyns, conservative mp, who's been chatting to us about john lydon's comments. it never ceases to amaze me how there's you get someone. right. who was you get someone. right. who was you know, in the sex pistols, a massive kind of outspoken rock and roller anarchist kind of quy- and roller anarchist kind of guy. you invite him on to a radio show and he says what he thinks , and everyone starts thinks, and everyone starts clutching their pearls, don't they ? oh my gosh, how dare he they? oh my gosh, how dare he say that? you think so? well, firstly , you know who you firstly, you know who you ianed firstly, you know who you invited on. secondly, if you just got out of that studio , just got out of that studio, maybe wandered around certain places and like places like skegness and like scarborough , like blackpool, you scarborough, like blackpool, you would not only would realise that he's not only bang money but the vast bang on the money but the vast majority actually majority of people actually support as well. support what he said as well. but i've got a big hour coming your yes, obviously i've your way. yes, obviously i've got tomorrow's newspaper got all of tomorrow's newspaper
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front they are front pages for you. they are hot press so don't miss hot off the press so don't miss that. but this is the big one for thousands of for me. thousands of pro—palestine activists are using international women's day to fly the black, red and green flag of palestine. now, earlier today, i sat down with the israeli government spokesman, alon levy, to discuss hamas atrocities against women and children. by the way, both israeli and palestinian, and how these are being conveniently and appallingly ignored. well, i cannot understand is the blind spot that liberal feminists seem to have to the appalling horrors that take place not just in palestine, not just in gaza , but palestine, not just in gaza, but right across the middle east. and frankly , ian levy puts a few and frankly, ian levy puts a few of those people back in their box. but yes , i will also be box. but yes, i will also be bringing you the latest on that and asking whether or not we should be locking up people who criminally damage artwork. criminally damage our artwork. i'll in a tick. i'll see you in a tick. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb news news.
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yeah. terrible drivers are ruining britain's roads . and on ruining britain's roads. and on my panel tonight, i've got all of tomorrow's newspapers today with the director of popular conservatives , mark littlewood, conservatives, mark littlewood, ex bbc political chief, john sergeant, finalist sergeant, apprentice finalist joanna jarjue. and why is there so much controversy about this night on the dance floor is not a song with any evil in its heart. >> the whole intention of that song, like this venue, is to bnng song, like this venue, is to bring joy. >> yes. get ready britain, here we go. yes, i think it is time that feminists for palestine learnt a couple of home truths. next . couple of home truths. next. >> good evening from the gb newsroom. i'm sam francis . a newsroom. i'm sam francis. a quick look at the headlines. just after 10:00, northern ireland's first minister has apologised today to the families
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of alleged informers who were killed by the ira and says she's wholeheartedly committed to heaung wholeheartedly committed to healing the wounds of the past. it's after a major investigation found it's likely that more lives were lost than saved by a double agent during the troubles, codenamed stakeknife , troubles, codenamed stakeknife, he was working covertly for the british inside the ira's british army inside the ira's internal security unit. he's widely believed to have been a west belfast man who was 77 when he died last year. west belfast man who was 77 when he died last year . solicitor he died last year. solicitor kevin winters, who represents a number of the victims families, says the agent needs to be identified officially . identified officially. >> the decision not to name freddie scappaticci as the agent stakeknife has been difficult for many to accept the legal and tactical rationale for doing so will be lost on many people , will be lost on many people, particularly next of kin of those murdered . those murdered. >> george galloway has said today that he has hundreds of candidates who are ready to run in the next general election. the leader of the workers party of britain was sworn into
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parliament on monday of this week his by—election week following his by—election win last week. speaking to neil oliver gb news earlier, the oliver on gb news earlier, the mp said his success in rochdale was the straw that broke the camel's back. >> spread of candidates >> the spread of candidates challenges, new parties , challenges, new parties, independent candidates and so on is now proceeding like wildfire. if i tell you that i have now in my pocket more than 300 prospective parliamentary candidates, all paying their own election expenses , by the way, election expenses, by the way, because we can't pay them more than 300 workers party parliamentary candidates. imagine that george galloway there and that full interview is now available on youtube and onune now available on youtube and online on our website, gbnews.com >> or of course, you can tune in on tv or radio this sunday with neil oliver at 6:00 in the evening. police have raided a chain of funeral homes in east
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scanning the qr code on your screen or visit our website gb news .com/ alerts. now, though, it's to . patrick. it's back to. patrick. >> today is international women's day and i think we might now have reached peak lunacy when it comes to the pro—palestine brigade. we've already had queers for palestine. palestine doesn't want queers. in 2016, hamas executed one of their own top dogs. mahmoud issue.we reportedly for sleeping with a man, 25 year old ahmed abu maya. a gay man, was beheaded by thuggish homophobes in hebron. in the west bank, footage was uploaded to social media. the only pronouns for lgbt people in palestine are was slash were. last night i showed you footage of people attacking a kebab shop in bradford because the owner, who had a free palestine poster in his window, by the way, was selling coca—cola, which is
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apparently now some kind of zionist thing. but today on international women's day, we've got feminists for palestine . got feminists for palestine. they have been holding events in london and in bristol and a couple of other locations as well. they say as feminists, we are global movement to are part of a global movement to overcome the patriarchal, imperialist at imperialist capitalist system at the root of violence, trauma and existential threat facing humanity. the freedom of palestinians is intrinsic to our collective freedom against all forms of oppression. feminists forms of oppression. feminists for palestine are chickens for kfc, it's turkeys for christmas . kfc, it's turkeys for christmas. okay? it should be feminists against hamas. we have to remember how this latest situation started. now later in the show, i am playing you an interview that i've done with alon levy, the israeli government spokesman, who will tell you in graphic detail the sexual crimes committed by hamas on israelis, israeli hostages , on israelis, israeli hostages, but also against palestinian women as well . but this
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but also against palestinian women as well. but this is a short report from the campaign against anti—semitism . against anti—semitism. >> since the 7th of october, we have heard harrowing witness accounts of sexual violence and rape carried out by hamas against israeli women. reports of women being gang raped before being shot in the head of women's genitalia, being mutilated with knives and having their breasts cut off of their bodies being paraded around whilst men spit on them. despite these reports of the most grotesque incidences, many women's rights movements have shamefully remained silent. spoken too late, or denied the accounts entirely . accounts entirely. >> the metoo movement didn't comment about this for days. sisters uncut released a statement saying no people would ever accept being murdered, humiliated , dispossessed, humiliated, dispossessed, racially targeted, oppressed, cleansed, exiled and colonised without resisting. this means lasting peace will only be possible when palestinians are free. period i mean, is the gang rape of israeli women justified ?
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rape of israeli women justified? then movements like queers for palestine or today's feminists for palestine expose a gaping flaw in the logic of many people on the liberal left. they have a complete blind spot to the fact that many of the people they claim to be standing up for would imprison or kill or rape them, given half the chance . them, given half the chance. let's get the thoughts of my panel now. now, this evening i am joined by former bbc chief political correspondent john sergeant. i've got director of popular conservatives. it's mark littlewood. i also have entrepreneur, social commentator and finalist joanna and apprentice finalist joanna jarjue. now i just want to remind everybody as to stay remind everybody as well to stay tuned, because i am tuned, because shortly i am talking levy, the talking to ellen levy, the israeli government spokesperson, and think, a and that is, i think, quite a powerful , interview really, powerful, interview really, about the state of play over there . certainly when it comes there. certainly when it comes to women's rights. mark, you know, is this feminist for palestine thing, a bit of a turkeys for christmas situation ? turkeys for christmas situation? >> well, a bit. we've got to be a bit careful here, right? i mean haven't called mean they haven't called themselves feminist for hamas.
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you an independent you can support an independent palestine be against hamas. you can support an independent paleasne be against hamas. you can support an independent paleas you be against hamas. you can support an independent paleas you rightlyigainst hamas. you can support an independent paleas you rightly pointt hamas. you can support an independent paleas you rightly point out,nas. but as you rightly point out, patrick, there doesn't seem to be great deal of nuance in be a great deal of nuance in their approach . you're their approach. and you're you're to you're absolutely right to point out does seem to be this out there does seem to be this odd period of time, a reluctance to criticise the barbaric behaviour of hamas, not just on october the 7th, more generally. and that worries me a bit. i mean, you can call out israel if you think they've overreacted or the rest of it , but there seems the rest of it, but there seems to be a blind spot in some elements of the left when it comes to the horrific atrocities we've seen. i can't explain that. i don't know why it is, and i think we should keep pointing it out, but you can be in favour of an independent palestine and still horrified by the leadership. the hamas leadership. >> your views on >> and johnny, your views on this. i know you're very pro palestine, you? so how do palestine, aren't you? so how do you up the of women's you marry up the idea of women's rights and what goes on in palestine? >> well, i think that it's very easy to kind of criticise these feminists because of everything that happened on october 7th. but think that the situation
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but i think that the situation in palestine is an ongoing situation. right so i think for a lot of the people on the left, they did actually call out the horrific events that happened that, you know, that hamas attacks it happened. but attacks when it happened. but also seeing thousands and also we're seeing thousands and thousands and thousands of people dying . and i people continuously dying. and i think that in the context of about feminism , the palestinian about feminism, the palestinian women right this second, who have no access to menstrual hygiene products, who are being bombed they're giving bombed while they're giving birth, and billions of pounds in aid hamas, and they've spent aid to hamas, and they've spent that aid on building tunnels and so they can, you know, launch rockets into they could you could, you could have easily with that amount of money that they'd received, looked after every single woman in gaza, wasn't it said that the israeli government involved government was involved in building tunnels as well? building those tunnels as well? wasn't there like big dispute wasn't there like a big dispute about actually built the about who actually built the tunnels? hasn't tunnels? there was hasn't actually a lot of actually been confirmed a lot of those i think that we those things. so i think that we kind of have to be careful when it comes to but we're it comes to that. but we're talking you talking about the immediate, you know, happening.
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know, thing that's happening. and that's not kind and i think that that's not kind of not that's not of well, that's not that's not kind what hamas kind of saying that what hamas did october 7th isn't did on october 7th isn't horrific, but also two things can can be true the same can can be true at the same time. i'm disputing that time. i'm not disputing that hamas, you know, rape those hamas, did, you know, rape those victims those, those, victims and those, those, hostages. but also it can be true that palestinian women are going through an ongoing situation about 9000 people have died. people are giving birth with anaesthesia. that's what with no anaesthesia. that's what they're campaigning against. john, one of the things that the ellen levy goes on to discuss is how he knows first hand that hamas are using israeli female hostages as as sexual playthings and using them as bargaining chips. >> you know, if this feminist for palestine movement had anything about them, wouldn't they be calling for the release of the female hostages, do you think? >> well, some of them may be, but i think the mistake but i mean, i think the mistake is to imagine that you is to imagine that because you go demonstration, because go on a demonstration, because you're what's going go on a demonstration, because you'regaza, what's going go on a demonstration, because you'regaza, that what's going go on a demonstration, because you'regaza, that somehow going go on a demonstration, because you'regaza, that somehow you; on in gaza, that somehow you have now have a complete have now got to have a complete sort of ideological picture of.
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but on but what about what happened on october 7? we know that was horrendous. know that horrendous. we know that perfectly . we're reminded perfectly well. we're reminded of i enough. mean, of it, i think, enough. i mean, you may say, oh, we ought to be reminded of it maybe 4 or 5 hours a we should be hours a day. we should be reminded. israelis certainly reminded. the israelis certainly feel about it, feel very strongly about it, quite so. but you quite understandably so. but you must allow for people to must also allow for people to see what is happening in gaza now , where you've got 30,000 now, where you've got 30,000 people killed, most of them women and children. you may say, i could dispute whether it's exactly 30,000. all right. these are rough figures , and they're are rough figures, and they're horrified by that. >> now, why didn't more women's groups chant me two sisters uncut loads of them. where were they on the days that jewish women were being raped and jewish children were being raped? they kept silent on it. because they did. they did. they kept silence. just come out. >> hadn't had look. >> they hadn't had time to look. it only took about 24 hours for that take so the that event to take place. so the idea that you could suddenly whip days in some cases, never. but hold on a moment. if you're saying that people in britain
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didn't care about october the 7th, is a stupid thing to 7th, that is a stupid thing to say. they did. no, i'm saying if you're saying if you listen to me, john, if listen to me, me, john, if you listen to me, john, am saying a john, i am saying a straightforward fact, which is that a blind that women's groups have a blind spot a of the time when it spot a lot of the time when it comes israeli women being comes to israeli women being raped in way do not. raped in a way they do not. >> that's not fair. >> that's not fair. >> else? >> anyone else? >> anyone else? >> patrick? patrick, that's not fair. john said, it fair. because like john said, it basically short basically happened in a short amount time. and with amount of time. and even with this report, coming out this un report, it's coming out now . now. say that people now. now. so to say that people haven't out, there's haven't spoken out, there's a lot information that's kind haven't spoken out, there's a lotbeeniformation that's kind haven't spoken out, there's a lotbeen drip ation that's kind haven't spoken out, there's a lotbeen drip fed.1 that's kind haven't spoken out, there's a lotbeen drip fed. butit's kind of been drip fed. but unfortunately happened unfortunately what's happened is that look the two that when you look at the two situation two situations, situation to two situations, october seventh was horrific. but you know, quite quickly that was , to be fair, kind of was, to be fair, kind of overshadowed by so many things that just happening day that were just happening day after after the after day after day in the images. and doesn't make images. and that doesn't make october less serious. october 7th any less serious. it's the fact that we've it's just the fact that we've got to a point where we had a really bad palestine. >> joanna at, and hamas were allowed to carry what would allowed to carry on. what would women's like in that, women's rights be like in that, in free palestine, you think? >> but a free palestine doesn't
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necessarily people necessarily mean that people want necessarily in want hamas to necessarily be in charge . charge. >> there also the palestinian >> there is also the palestinian authority, is why authority, and this is why i have a problem with the fact that people and politicians means people, especially politicians internationally , politicians internationally, never try to take any type of diplomatic route. and i understand that it's, you know, very difficult to say, well, i'm going to negotiate with terrorists. at the end of terrorists. but at the end of the look at what's the day, look at what's happening russia. happening in ukraine and russia. we have these ongoing we just have these ongoing things. people die and things. 30,000 people die and people tried to people just never tried to actually the table actually get around the table to stop that. >> they have done. >> well, they have done. >> well, they have done. >> also, are you that >> but also, are you saying that we can't demonstrations in we can't see demonstrations in this when people are this country when people are very worked up by what they see and they're demonstrating, they're protesting people going into and shouting into a tesco's and shouting at israeli avocado . israeli avocado. >> so we've got people beating the living daylights out of kebab shop owners with, no, i won't hang on a moment. i don't know where been living know where you've been living actually, got actually, john, you've got people palestine flags people with pro palestine flags in their kebab shop windows in bradford, because they're bradford, who because they're selling coca cola, are now getting up .
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getting beaten up. >> i mean, for goodness sake, everyone takes part in everyone who takes part in a march with all that. march agrees with all that. there are excesses going on, there are extremists behaviour that's very little to do. that's got very little to do. look, we have demonstrations look, can we have demonstrations in london? >> that's not what i'm talking pro—israel. >> i've been listening to you in bristol. you're having an argument about a completely different issue. >> but look, there seems >> but look, look, there seems to look, i think it is to be look, i think it is reasonable, as joanna and john are pointing out, can are pointing out, you can condemn without to condemn x without having to condemn x without having to condemn y. you know, you can't you can't say to somebody that, well, if you've condemned that, here's a list of a million other things condemn. but where i'm things to condemn. but where i'm rather you, patrick, feel rather with you, patrick, i feel just that there seems to just uneasy that there seems to be reticence or slowness in be a reticence or a slowness in calling it out on in an even handed fashion. i'll put it. i'll put it no more strongly than that. that seems to me to be there, and that it is that we don't hear enough. now, john, you're right. we don't need five hours a day to remind us of october the 7th. >> course, regularly and the >> of course, regularly and the israeli doing israeli government are doing this they're this very well. they're keeping this very well. they're keeping
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this alive. hostages this alive. the hostages families it all families are keeping it all alive. families are keeping it all auve.the families are keeping it all alive. the idea. what do you want them to do? we're being excluded from this or we're not the it's the problem is no, it's a question civil society, question of how civil society, what raising how what patrick is raising is how these society these civil society groups behave. these civil society groups beisorry. >> sorry. >> sorry. >> don't want p— >> sorry. >> don't want a ceasefire. >> hamas don't want a ceasefire. you understand this, both of you, you know, talks you, don't you? you know, talks have down a have just broken down a ceasefire hamas don't ceasefire because hamas don't want . want a ceasefire. >> well, they don't want the terms ceasefire because terms of the ceasefire because they is things they want, which is things like release hostages. they want, which is things like relethen hostages. they want, which is things like relethen israel.tages. they want, which is things like relethen israel doesn't want >> then israel doesn't want a ceasefire either. >> don't you that, too? >> why don't you say that, too? >> why don't you say that, too? >> fighting they >> they're fighting what they see correctly, their see quite correctly, as their lives. this you're lives. that is this hamas you're talking are . i mean, talking about. they are. i mean, you may say i disagree with them, and were on them, and they were wrong. on october be october 7th. they shouldn't be doing if you're saying doing this. but if you're saying about it, we're obviously what is going on. >> patrick, you know that israel, israel also don't want a ceasefire, right ? ceasefire, right? >> you that. >> you know that. >> you know that. >> so round of talks are going. >> so when hamas come out and say we don't want a ceasefire, right heck do we still right. why the heck do we still have out every single day have people out every single day of the week somewhere around the country? we've got country? i mean, we've got a clip later on. if someone has
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decided that cambridge university strip university is trying to strip out, living daylights out of out, the living daylights out of a of artwork, i mean, this a piece of artwork, i mean, this is what i don't understand. >> rather with you. look, >> i'm rather with you. look, it's incredibly complicated it's an incredibly complicated situation here, and i don't pretend to understand every nuance really don't. nuance of it, i really don't. but after october the 7th, surely you expect israel to take some pretty serious action to defend itself and end and hamas needs to be removed, essentially, of course. and that cannot be done without the loss of a lot of innocent life . we've done. >> similarly, when this is completely different, the trouble is that, in fact, from early on, there were lots of people i was certainly one of them who thought, this is all very well, but is it going to work? i don't know, be able to separate hamas people separate the hamas people from the ordinary civilians. what what the feeling among what will the feeling be among the ordinary? but they're endeavouring to so. won't endeavouring to do so. won't they hamas more they then support hamas more strongly ? that's what happens strongly? that's what happens when you bomb people. >> what i find interesting to do that, i, what i find seem that, what i, what i find seem to me would work. what i to me that it would work. what i find. i find. well i'll tell you, i you're fine. >> what i incredibly
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>> but what i find incredibly interesting is i go out and interesting is when i go out and about these marches and about into these marches and i ask people think about ask people what they think about hamas, actually a lot of hamas, that actually a lot of those people don't think hamas are a terror group. and so you talk there differentiating talk there about differentiating between hamas and ordinary citizens . and it's and it's and, citizens. and it's and it's and, you if in this country you know, if in this country it's difficult to do that, i wonder how difficult it is to do in gaza. but anyway, anyway, right , okay. look loads still to right, okay. look loads still to come. donald trump gives his colourful verdict on president biden's state of the union address medium address through the medium of snapchat filters. but next, look, follow really look, it's a follow on really from were talking about from what we were talking about there. thousands there. but thousands of pro—palestine use pro—palestine activists use international fly international women's day to fly that black, and green flag. that black, red and green flag. i sit down the israeli i did sit down with the israeli government spokesman, ellen levy, discuss hamas's levy, to discuss hamas's atrocities both atrocities against women, both israeli and palestinian, how israeli and palestinian, and how these conveniently and these are being conveniently and in cases, appallingly in many cases, appallingly ignored. christys ignored. patrick christys tonight .
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>> the renewal of a show sundays from 6 pm. on . gb news. from 6 pm. on. gb news. >> yes. welcome back. now look, thousands of pro—palestine protesters are taking advantage of international women's day . of international women's day. and i spoke earlier with israeli government spokesman alon levy to discuss hamas's barbaric acts done against women, how they've been ignored and i also wanted to get an update on some of the israeli hostages who are sadly still in those hamas tunnels as well . i still in those hamas tunnels as well. i asked him initially about what his reaction was for the feminist for palestine movement today. >> pretty pathetic to see people marching for hamas rapists and calling it liberation. i mean, what do they think the hamas terrorists who perpetrated the barbaric atrocities of october 7th are freedom rapists? we know that right now hamas is raping the hostages in the terror tunnels. that's what the un said in its special report about the sexual atrocities of october 7th, by the way, not only against women, against men as
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well. that's what the survivors of hamas captivity are telling us. >> us. >> yeah, i wanted to know what actually were some of the atrocities that have happened to the women. just just a disclaimer, obviously, you know , disclaimer, obviously, you know, this is distressing stuff, but i do think it is important to get it across. >> disturbing findings of the un special representative for sexual violence in conflict . she sexual violence in conflict. she found that on october 7th, hamas not only committed acts of rape, not only committed acts of rape, not only committed acts of rape, not only gang rape, but acts of necrophilia on two occasions raping the bodies of the victims it murdered. hamas used sexual violence in a clear, widespread and systematic manner on october 7th and is still subjecting the poor hostages we haven't heard a word from in over 150 days. >> the argument by a lot of these feminists for palestine movement is that this is a patriarchal war, okay? and israel is blocking aid in gaza sanitary products. they can't
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get in. apparently bring down hamas, so it can't do it again. >> and to bring back the hostages. now, the people who are currently denied doing the sexual atrocities, covering up the sex crimes of the hamas rapist regime , it's because they rapist regime, it's because they want to believe that hamas are their heroes. they want to believe that the terrorists who committed those barbarities are freedom fighters and fighting for liberation . for liberation. >> also, i wondered if it was fair to say that hamas doesn't actually treat their own female citizens that well is itself the very definition of violent patriarchy. >> i don't think they have very many women leaders. they systematically oppress all minorities in the gaza strip. certainly lgbt people , but also certainly lgbt people, but also women as well. this is a deeply conservative, deeply patriarchal society . society. >> yeah. and a lot of people here are, as we know , out on the here are, as we know, out on the streets, will have more of it tomorrow, won't we, saying, oh,
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look, come on, we need a ceasefire now. we need a ceasefire now. we need a ceasefire now. we need a ceasefire now . i just wanted to ceasefire now. i just wanted to know where we were up to in terms of hamas actually wanting a how a ceasefire and how the negotiations on, to negotiations are going on, to see a temporary pause in the fighting will enable us to fighting that will enable us to get out. get hostages out. >> although ultimately, this war will end with either the surrender the defeat of surrender or the defeat of hamas. we are not going to leave hamas. we are not going to leave hamas in power in the gaza strip when it is threatening to perpetrate the october 7th atrocities again and again . but atrocities again and again. but hamas has an opportunity right now to stop the fighting temporarily in order to let hostages out. and it doesn't want to do that. but it is plain that hamas is not interested in taking that opportunity for a pause in the fighting. hamas is determined to fight to the last man standing. >> yes, indeed. and look , >> yes, indeed. and look, tomorrow, despite what rishi sunak says and despite the police saying that they are going to continue to manage these protests, we're going to end up with more process, aren't
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we? we're going end up with we? we're going to end up with more coming out and more people coming out and saying, ceasefire now, saying, we need a ceasefire now, saying, we need a ceasefire now, saying the saying that clearly the only issue about ceasefire is that israel allowing israel aren't allowing a ceasefire despite hamas clearly not and as not wanting one either. and as it is international women's day again, i just wanted to yet again, i just wanted to yet again remind people of some of the atrocities that hamas have been committing against women. and just to think as well, about , all right, this in this context, it's hamas and it's in the gaza strip and it's all of that stuff. but really think about that part of the world and that region of the world, okay? and whether or not feminist groups do enough to call out the barbaric acts that take place against women in that region , against women in that region, really, with israel arguably being the kind of only exception when the hostages are 19 women, the survivors are telling us the most shocking stories about rape at gunpoint, about how hamas is dressing up the women as dolls
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and treating them as puppets on string. >> there was one hostage who came back and said that some of the women hostages are missing their periods , and she can only their periods, and she can only hope that it's the bodies defensive mechanism shutting itself down so they can't get pregnant. and not that they are already pregnant by their captors. that what we are captors. that is what we are talking about. >> it's worth bearing that in mind . i think tomorrow, if mind. i think tomorrow, if people are considering going on some of these marches and certainly the feminists for palestine well , palestine movements as well, that was ellen levy there. the spokesman for the israeli government . coming up, my top government. coming up, my top panel give us greatest panel give us their greatest britain and union jackass nominations. but next, tomorrow's pages . they are tomorrow's front pages. they are hot off the press with top reactions from my press pack. i have also just seen a story here which includes a video clip which includes a video clip which we will bring to you as well about meghan markle.
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all right. welcome back. it's time to bring you tomorrow's news tonight. now in our press pack. let's do it . let's start pack. let's do it. let's start with the front page of the eye. its budget falls flat as tories lose votes to reform. it's the latest round of opinion polling which appears to have reform on 13% 20% of the public support. the 2024 budget, 39% oppose it. so that's the latest from the eye. let's go to the daily express. queen camilla to the rescue . as king and kate rescue. as king and kate recover, the queen is ready to take on even more royal duties as the king and kate continue to recover. i do believe she's off on a little holiday at some point there, which i think is probably fair enough. the mirror oh great spice girls exclusive. it's tough for geri. we have all reached out to her. mel b's anguish at pal's family strife just amaze me how much media attention this story's getting. but anyway, the daily mail boosted defence spending now for former defence secretaries back
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the mail's campaign. look, mark francois actually did say at the budget as well, you know, is putin going to have to be in warsaw before we decide that we're going to actually spend what we on the mirror, what we spend on the mirror, keep it on the screen at the moment, because we've moment, though, because we've got we've got the, meghan markle, online markle, meghan, the worst online abuse attacking women, abuse is women attacking women, she she it's not she says. and she says it's not catty, it's cruel. and i do believe, well, i'll introduce my panel again. i have got john sergeant, of course, former bbc, political bigwig. i've also, of course, got the director of pubuc course, got the director of public services, mark littlewood, and entrepreneur and social commentator joanna jarjue. focus a little bit jarjue. let's focus a little bit on this story. now, meghan markle says that she was cyber bullied pregnant with bullied while pregnant with archie she takes archie and lilibet as she takes centre stage at a star studded international day panel, international women's day panel, while harry watches on from the front row. i believe i'm right in saying have a little in saying we might have a little clip this, i think. yeah, clip of this, i think. yeah, there we go. oh, any second now. >> the bulk of the bullying and abuse that i was experiencing in
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social media and online was when i was pregnant with archie and with lili, and with a newborn, with lili, and with a newborn, with each of them , and you just with each of them, and you just think about that, and you , it's think about that, and you, it's really wrap your head around why people would be so hateful. it's not catty . it's cruel why you not catty. it's cruel why you would do that. and certainly when you're pregnant or you have a newborn, we all, as moms, you know, it's such a tender and sacred time , john. sacred time, john. >> well, i mean, she's saying that she's actually once again talking about herself, isn't she? she says women attacking other women. and then she says, and when i was in this position, all these people were being horrid to me. they're being horrid to me. they're being horrid because of her behaviour and done . and the and what she's done. and the whole sort of meghan saga doesn't fill me with, oh, isn't she, isn't she lovely? now, i'm not saying i would send abusive messages to her because that wouldn't character , but i wouldn't be my character, but i can't say i've got an enormous amount of sympathy for him. >> going kick off, >> joanna's going to kick off, not on. not go on. >> i mean, was pregnant and
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>> i mean, she was pregnant and i actually think that a lot of the press are the ones who fuelled talking about how fuelled this, talking about how she's stomach too she's touching her stomach too much, how many times do you walk down the street and you see a fully pregnant cradling fully pregnant woman cradling her bump? but when it's her bump? but then when it's kate, oh. tenderly kate, it's oh. kate tenderly rubs the? honestly, rubs her. what the? honestly, i just think women just think, and i think women should know better to be going after and know now after someone. and we know now from things she's from the things that she's divulged to it was when divulged to us that it was when she heavily pregnant that she was heavily pregnant that she was heavily pregnant that she had that, those suicidal thoughts. even thoughts. so it makes it even more cruel. >> arguments, though, that >> any arguments, though, that women use against meghan women can use against meghan that you're, that you're going to though people to accept, though lots of people . look, i some people like . look, i think some people like me, didn't like her, but all me, men didn't like her, but all sort of women also thought she was terrible. >> and don't like people are entitled opinion on meghan. >> i'm not saying that everybody has meghan, it gets has to love meghan, but it gets to where get a life like to a point where get a life like for be going online for you to be going online and going pregnant woman going after a pregnant woman just unnecessarily. >> of of course it >> yeah, of course, of course it is. wants nobody would is. nobody wants nobody would justify horrific online abuse. whatever you think of the personality. but okay, we only
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saw the short clip there. i might have to watch her full two hour lecture. i guess , but what hour lecture. i guess, but what insight did she have? why does she the bulk, presumably she think the bulk, presumably meaning the majority of online abuse, while she was abuse, was while she was pregnant? well, she's got any insight explain that no . why insight to explain that no. why is attacking women the is women attacking women the worst of abuse? why not men worst form of abuse? why not men attacking women? because it doesn't, she doesn't really seem to reach any meaningful conclusions women . conclusions as women. >> i haven't had a baby yet, but i can empathise with how difficult it is. so i think as a woman you would just expect that some women would just be like, you know what, leave her alone at moment, princess kate at the moment, princess kate is ill everybody's leave ill and everybody's like, leave her alone , ill. but when her alone, she's ill. but when she's pregnant, let's take your example , jana. example, jana. >> if you become pregnant, i can't imagine people sending abusive messages you. i'm abusive messages to you. i'm sorry, it's very, very unlikely. >> i literally witnessed it. i'm on twitter, even the media. on twitter, even in the media. >> pregnant. >> pregnant. >> yet, though. till >> yet, though. you wait till you're pregnant. and then just then a note to me saying then send me a note to me saying you're quite right. when i'm pregnant, had much pregnant, i haven't had much
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horrendous all of horrendous abuse. all sorts of people are being rather nice to me, right? >> i mean, but and i am as >> i mean, but but and i am as regular viewers and listeners to this show. no, not exactly this show. well, no, not exactly one stand up for meghan one to stand up for meghan markle, did get markle, but she she did get abuse while was pregnant. abuse while she was pregnant. i mean, happen. whether mean, that did happen. whether or at the extent to or not it's at the extent to which she's saying it was or what level of effect it what genuine level of effect it had her, don't know. but had on her, i don't know. but i mean, there was there was abuse. but think for me, it was the but i think for me, it was the idea prince harry's sitting idea that prince harry's sitting on watching from the front on and watching from the front row yeah row as well. yeah >> bless, bless. >> bless, bless. >> i it goes to john's >> but i think it goes to john's point well. all of these point as well. all of these stories seem about her. if stories seem to be about her. if she was genuinely talking about the picture abuse that the wider picture of abuse that young or pregnant women receive onune young or pregnant women receive online and adducing evidence of other characters who would receive this or, you know, aggregating together how horrific anti—women abuses on twitter . i get it, but it's twitter. i get it, but it's always all about her. it's narcissistic, it's totally narcissistic. >> whatever you want to see, totally narcissistic, see whatever you want to see. >> she literally talked about the wider problem, and then
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she's on panel and then she's on a panel and then related it back to her. she related it back to her. she related it back to her. she related it all about her. i've done these types of panels. they ask you your own ask you about your own experience . you just want to experience. you just want to hate on leave it alone. hate on her. leave it alone. >> let's let alone let's wish this on. >> let's ignore her. i would. >> let's ignore her. i would. >> okay? all right. well. so, look, this is. we're not going to about the palestine to talk about the palestine angle this because we've done angle to this because we've done angle to this because we've done a lot of that tonight. a heck of a lot of that tonight. i'm going to talk it's i'm going to talk about it's just of nursery just the latest kind of nursery involving. vandalism involving. well, it's vandalism isn't look at isn't it? we just have a look at this. right. so as you just saw an activist associated with a palestine group violently attacked a portrait of former prime minister lord balfour. well, palestine action said that they decided to take action over they decided to take action over the 1917 balfour declaration and balfour issued a statement promising to help create a national home for the jewish people in palestine. let's not a bit of , you know, we've had bit of, you know, we've had enough, i think, of the actual
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palestine that was justified. we are this kind of are seeing this kind of behaviour when it comes to behaviour more when it comes to actually vandalising artwork, etc. this should we etc. my point is this should we lock him up? >> do you need to lock him up? i don't know, this is criminal damage. i don't know whether we can identify the person who's done don't know how done it. i don't know how valuable painting is. valuable that painting is. probably of probably many, many thousands of pounds. should be charged pounds. so you should be charged with . and with criminal damage. and you should bill the should face a bill for the restoration of the picture, or for the cost of what it was worth prior to your actions. that's what should be faced. not a sort of oh, now i see you were making an interesting point here. you can complain about balfour else you want balfour or anybody else you want to about take to complain about when you take it that do you need to it to that level. do you need to lock him up? i'm totally lock him up? i'm not totally sure that the sort of sure that that's the sort of offence jail but offence you go to jail for, but you fine you should definitely be fine for cost of what you've for the full cost of what you've done. >> prosecute. >> you prosecute. >> you prosecute. >> not that you >> i'm not sure that you shouldn't i mean, i really shouldn't lock. i mean, i really do think this appalling do think this is appalling behaviour. completely behaviour. it's completely unnecessary. it does for unnecessary. it does nothing for your cause. it really is something. demonstrating your cause. it really is sonstreets demonstrating your cause. it really is son streets is demonstrating your cause. it really is son streets is onefonstrating your cause. it really is son streets is one thing.iting your cause. it really is sonstreets is one thing. going the streets is one thing. going to gallery and criminal to an art gallery and criminal damage for sure. no, but i think
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it's just it's just very , very it's just it's just very, very poor behaviour. >> also draw >> they want to also draw attention to the history. and i think that that's a bit, you know, of the context that a lot of how did of people miss. and how did we even to place? you even get to this place? you know, start on october know, it didn't start on october 7th. some people say it did. and other the other side other people on the other side of argument can't around. of the argument can't go around. >> go around. >> you can't go around. >> you can't go around. >> it's a engaging >> but it's a it's a engaging criminal activity. >> want them to do, >> what do you want them to do, go and stroke his portrait on the side? the other side? >> send out a press >> he should send out a press release. a poster. you release. design a poster. you can't can't around. you can't you can't go around. you can't you can't go around. you can't go around destroying works of an of art because it's an interesting get your argument. >> shouldn't rebellion criminal? same thing. >> it's criminal. it's criminal activity. >> w ma wm e be i mean, that >> that would be i mean, that was my kind my was actually my kind of my point, which is like, is it point, which is that like, is it all right extinction all right if extinction rebellion i don't rebellion do i mean, i don't think think they should be think i think they should be prosecuted that as but prosecuted for that as well. but what do think they should be prosecuted? >> i don't think that they should prosecuted. it's not should be prosecuted. it's not the like. should be prosecuted. it's not tiprefer like. should be prosecuted. it's not tiprefer calmly like. should be prosecuted. it's not tiprefer calmly and. i prefer just walk calmly and peacefully the street. so peacefully in the street. so it's really. but at the it's never really. but at the end of the they've also end of the day, they've also drawn it, which drawn attention to it, which is what want a protest.
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what you want from a protest. we're now. we're talking about it now. a lot people won't have known lot of people won't have known about the balfour agreement. >> so, but you want >> so, but you also want people to and idea to agree with you and the idea that, because that, aren't i clever because i've managed paint over i've managed to throw paint over a work of art? don't you agree with me? think i could with me? do you think i could agree with all sorts of things? but that. but not that. >> yeah, you're not going to get the with that the moderates on side with that sort you might sort of behaviour. you might appeal the gallery. appeal to the gallery. you'll get retweets likes get lots of retweets and likes on if you're trying to on twitter. if you're trying to make this point to the moderates who say, i'm quite sure who say, i'm not quite sure which fall, this sort of which way to fall, this sort of behaviour turnoff. behaviour is a complete turnoff. >> switch >> complete switch off. >> complete switch off. >> that just we're >> i worry that we're just we're seeing every day something seeing it's every day something like arrest, it's a like this arrest, it's a criminal activity under english law. >> i asked him, saw this, and i just kind of scrolled past because i thought it was another. so i was like, oh, okay. it'sjust another. so i was like, oh, okay. it's just another it's another friday type of thing. so it losing its effect because it is losing its effect because you just the same thing over you just do the same thing over and again. and over again. >> friday >> another typical friday out in an just the way it an art gallery, just the way it is days. is these days. >> i know i'm doing later. >> yeah, i know i'm doing later. don't know you anyway. don't know about you anyway. right. more of right. look, coming up, more of tomorrow's front pages tomorrow's newspaper front pages for got tonight's for you. and we've got tonight's greatest union
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greatest britain and union jackass. donald trump jackass. but next, donald trump gives his colourful verdict on president biden's state of the union address through the medium of snapchat filters. don't miss it
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okay. welcome back. it's time to return to the liveliest pay per view. you'll get anywhere on telly with more of your front pages. the times we've lost faith in justice a stab victims mothers. in an emotional interview, parents accused police and the cps of failing them over the nottingham killings. gosh, yes. emma webber there has been on the show. sinead o'malley kumar. they want a public inquiry into the decision not to prosecute valdo calocane for murder . yeah. let's calocane for murder. yeah. let's go to the telegraph. yusuf in raw over £250,000 gaza cash. the first minister of scotland overruled officials advice on funding whilst his family was
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stuck in the war zone. humza yousaf has been accused of a conflict of interest, giving 250 grand, apparently to gaza . we go grand, apparently to gaza. we go to the sun now. £148 million winner kicks out hubby for blowing millions. that's celotto, says the sun lotto winner gillian bayford has kicked out her husband after he squandered millions from her share of the £148 million fortune. can i just say if i'd have come into £148 million, i would have been dead in a week. so, you know, there's that. the guardian ten of elective operations done in private hospitals , more lives lost than hospitals, more lives lost than saved by a british spy in the ira. so there we go. the guardian leading on those things. now, we are a little bit pressed for time , but i'm joined pressed for time, but i'm joined again by my press pack. it is former bbc chief political correspondent , john sergeant. correspondent, john sergeant. i've director popular i've got director of popular conservatives littlewood , conservatives mark littlewood, an entrepreneur and social commentator now commentator joanna jarjue. now the state of britain's roads.
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okay, it's been back in the headunes okay, it's been back in the headlines today. average speeds on and major a—roads on motorways and major a—roads throughout the country have dropped to 57 miles an hour in 2023. this report comes as a new campaign has been launched by national highways to target drivers the middle lane drivers who hog the middle lane on motorways, as a new survey has revealed that 32% of drivers admit to hogging it. occasionally, 5% say they always do it . i find occasionally, 5% say they always do it. i find that remarkable, are you all drivers ? are you all drivers? >> i haven't driven a car for nearly 30 years. well, you haven't driven a car for 30 years. >> you don't drive. >> you don't drive. >> joanna, i live on uber. >> joanna, i live on uber. >> you live on uber. you do drive? yes. >> no, i certainly do. >> no, i certainly do. >> middle drivers. >> middle lane drivers. >> middle lane drivers. >> not all the time. but if i feel i've got and if i feel feel i've got to. and if i feel there's a bus about to stop on there's a bus about to stop on the lane, temptation the inner lane, the temptation to don't where to just say, i don't know where the whether bus is going to be the whether a bus is going to be in that lane. yeah. and if i, if i i've got to sit behind i do, i've got to sit behind them i've got to move out them or i've got to move out quickly . yeah. are quickly. yeah. so there are roads and for it. there roads and roads for it. there are times even on, you know, dual carriageways where the
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dual carriageways where it's the sensible thing to do is to, is to hog the middle lane. >> that winds me up more than middle lane. hoggers is when the motorways empty motorways completely empty at night you've lanes night and you've got four lanes of empty road and it's got 50 miles. are these not so smart motorways. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> well, what about this? it's just a thought. i'm a road just a thought. i'm not a road safety expert, conceded safety expert, having conceded that although i'm legally entitled drive, i've still entitled to drive, i've still got a driving licence. i haven't been disqualified, be been disqualified, but i'd be incompetent so. how about incompetent to do so. how about this, rather than having these 50 mile an limits have you 50 mile an hour limits have you have be doing at least 60 if have to be doing at least 60 if you're the middle right you're in the middle lane, right . if you're if you're only doing 52, you're breaking the law. you've got to be going at a clip of 60 miles an hour or faster or get out of the middle lane, see, now how you stop people now that's how you stop people being too just being too slow, not too just fast. yeah. >> now, we all agree that >> now, can we all agree that cyclists a menace ? yeah, absolutely. >> oh, yeah. >> oh, yeah. >> even when i was >> yeah. even when i was learning drive. absolutely. learning to drive. absolutely. >> had road against >> even i had road rage against cyclists slam dunk. >> unanimous view. yeah. >> unanimous view. yeah. >> gosh. right now look, >> oh, gosh. right now look, this story is just as a warning.
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it's of funny. not funny. it's kind of funny. not funny. all right. so pop star sophie ellis baxter has experienced somewhat of a resurgence in popularity in recent months with her hit track murder on the dance floor reaching the top of the charts. so on tuesday night, ellis baxter performed, though at the bataclan concert hall. so yeah, a parisian venue where, sadly 90 people were killed in a terrorist attack in 2015 before singing murder on the dance floor, the pop star took a moment to recognise the sensitivity surrounding the lyrics of the song. here we go, mademoiselle flore is not a song with any evil in its heart. >> the whole intention of that song, like this venue, is to bnng song, like this venue, is to bring joy . bring joy. >> to bakhmut today. >> to bakhmut today. >> he's not great, is it, though , i don't think. i think whoever booked the venue there , would he
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booked the venue there, would he go right, sophie, you've got you're doing, you're doing the man. you've got the apollo. you're off to berlin . bataclan. you're off to berlin. bataclan. what was that? the bataclan ? i'm what was that? the bataclan? i'm not sure. >> it's a pretty icky, isn't it ? >> it's a pretty icky, isn't it? it just doesn't feel right at all. it feels grim . it feels all. it feels grim. it feels grim, tacky and nasty. she's got a point. >> i mean, look, she's. i think she. to be fair, i'm a massive fan of sevilla. i think she's styled it out. and it's also definitely not her fault. right she doesn't book her venues. she doesn't book her own venues. yeah, someone to do yeah, she's got someone to do a bit about it though. >> don't go to. bit about it though. >> yeah,on't go to. bit about it though. >> yeah,on't don't 0 to. bit about it though. >> yeah,on't don't just go to >> yeah, you don't just go to any and just. any venue and just. >> i don't where this is. >> she might have said, i don't think this i'm not going to play this song in my set or something. >> she might have said something. >> at she said something. >> at least she said something. she's enough emotional she's got enough emotional intelligence to kind of acknowledge. totally >> i know this is totally inappropriate, but i'm going to do it anyway. that's basically what saying. what she's saying. >> she >> do you imagine if she had just it? yeah just opened up with it? yeah >> preamble. just. at the >> no preamble. just. but at the same probably felt same time, she probably felt obuged do same time, she probably felt obliged do that song because same time, she probably felt obligsong'sdo that song because same time, she probably felt obligsong's beenit song because same time, she probably felt obligsong's been going| because same time, she probably felt
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obligsong's been going| beciase that song's been going viral a lot on on tiktok. >> that's why the tours, a lot of people, but the people of people, but then the people who to see it who who were going to see it knew what the venue and knew knew what the venue was and knew what most famous for. what she's most famous for. >> true, felt >> so it's true, felt uncomfortable. absolutely. >> right. okay. oh, yes. i've got video for now. got another video for you now. the us presidential election starts ramp donald trump starts to ramp up. donald trump has found yet another way to poke his rival, joe biden poke fun at his rival, joe biden . he's taken instagram to . he's taken to instagram to play . he's taken to instagram to play filters on poor play snapchat, filters on poor old president biden to make him look even more ridiculous . look even more ridiculous. >> so we're going to buy american . we're going to buy american. we're going to buy american. we're going to buy american votes . so trade rules. american votes. so trade rules. why america has been the law since 1933, also caps and won't go into effect until 2025. and by the way, that law was written and the benefit expires in 2025, new electric grids that are able to weather major storms and not prevent those fire forest fires . prevent those fire forest fires. >> i mean, it's small little. >> i mean, it's small little. >> it's gone. we've lost mark.
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we've lost everyone. >> it's brilliant. >> it's brilliant. >> it's brilliant. >> it's absolutely brilliant . >> it's absolutely brilliant. all right, all right. >> we are pressed for time. now let's go straight into the greatest union jack greatest britain. union jack asks them could talk asks if any of them could talk after right, john, after that, right, john, let's be snappy. britain be snappy. greatest britain greatest britain. >> honorary one joe biden. >> honorary one joe biden. >> oh oh , what timing, i know. >> oh oh, what timing, i know. wait a moment, i know, and it's a slightly frivolous point, but he's giving an example to 81 year olds that you can plan for your future as if nothing's going to happen. >> okay . all right, all right. >> okay. all right, all right. what is your greatest present? >> my greatest britain is thangam debbonaire, mp for having the balls to talk about rule britannia and why it might be offensive to some people, which i think it is, because there are a lot of, people in there are a lot of, people in the commonwealth who fought in that war and think that that that war and i think that that song quite, offensive song could be quite, offensive to them. okay >> go on. mark. >>— >> go on. mark. >> well, mine's probably the most least popular of the most the least popular of the lot. actually going to go lot. i'm actually going to go for jeremy good. great, forjeremy hunt. good. great, because i i think in because, i mean, i think in presenting budget, his
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presenting the budget, his presentation great. it's presentation was great. it's obviously not really his budget. it's budget of the office it's the budget of the office for budget responsibility, essentially, rather than the government's . but he's government's budget. but he's basically pretty good star in somebody movie . good, somebody else's movie. good, good couple of quips, good couple of jokes. had a and is a very slick presenter. so he gets my vote for presentation , not my vote for presentation, not for substance. all right. >> now can i just say, whilst i love you all those are the three worst. >> have you ever had a median jack carson nominations i've ever had? >> gonna pick none of them. >> i'm gonna pick none of them. i'm not picking any of it. i'm not picking . not even today's not picking. not even today's greatest. britain's gb greatest. britain's at the gb news viewers. right . mainly news viewers. all right. mainly for putting up with that. all right. much right. so thank you very much everybody. now right okay. everybody. now all right okay. so union jackass . so let's go to union jackass. now i will pick one of these. >> come on. right. jeremy hunt, it's >> come on. right. jeremy hunt, wsfime >> come on. right. jeremy hunt, it's time was mentioned on it's time he was mentioned on this for allowing the this thing for allowing the overall tax burden to rise. >> okay, good, is the high >> okay, good, mine is the high court enforcement officers for evicting a stage four cancer sufferer from her own home. absolutely horrific. >> quick video of this. i think
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maybe a week. yeah. are we going? >> his criminal. >> his criminal. >> okay. thank you for your concern. >> i'm concerned for the lady in there, not for your ignorance . there, not for your ignorance. it's disgraceful. okay >> yeah. i mean, imagine if they responded that way to a burglary . go on, mark. >> and mine is for a collective, not for an individual. the pcs union, that's the main civil service union now balloting to go on strike. so they want 35 days annual leave. they want more time work. even though more time off work. even though their productivity been terrible. >> union jack has johanna's suggestion . the high court suggestion. the high court enforcement officers. scandalous. all right. thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you for wonderful you everybody for a wonderful week. on monday at week. i'll be back on monday at 9 headliners 9 pm. it's headliners next. what >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello again. good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. it should stay dry through this evening for many areas, but rain and showers will push up from the southwest
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to bring some showery outbreaks of for many this of rain. for many of us, this weekend, that's a result of weekend, that's as a result of this pressure system this low pressure system bringing these weather fronts into southwest this into the southwest through this evening. bring some evening. so that will bring some showery of rain for showery outbreaks of rain for parts and cornwall parts of devon and cornwall through this evening. elsewhere, though, should dry for though, it should be dry for much of the evening and through much of the evening and through much night. having said much of the night. having said that, will be quite that, but it will be quite cloudy will cloudy and breezy. that will limit just the far limit any frost to just the far northwest of scotland, but it will fairly chilly start to will be a fairly chilly start to the weekend, with that easterly breeze continuing . the. the wind breeze continuing. the. the wind will be quite strong, particularly over the high ground and northwestern areas throughout and further throughout saturday and further south. we'll see cloud thicken through the afternoon with some drizzly outbreaks of rain to come around lunchtime across central southeastern areas. central and southeastern areas. there will be some brighter weather through the afternoon, but that will allow some showers to those showers to break out. those showers could quite heavy across could turn quite heavy across parts of the southwest, so some very possible for very heavy rain is possible for parts of dartmoor, parts of south as well. that rain south wales as well. that rain will be much more widespread through particularly through sunday, particularly
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across eastern areas of england, as well as parts of scotland, where be some quite where there'll be some quite persistent heavy rain at persistent and heavy rain at times. could some times. so there could be some flooding issues by the end of the weekend. will be quite the weekend. there will be quite a cloud on sunday, a lot of cloud around on sunday, but brighter spells in the but some brighter spells in the southwest that rain slowly clears monday clears through monday to leave a much brighter day on much drier and brighter day on tuesday by that warm feeling inside. >> from boxt boiler as sponsors of weather on . gb news. of weather on. gb news. >> earlier on breakfast at that. >> earlier on breakfast at that. >> breaking news in the past few moments that theresa may, the former pm and of course maidenhead mps to stand down after 27 years. >> well, i'm learning it through you. i'm so disappointed to hear this . this. >> well, this is obviously a really significant
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