showing her support in the court showing her support in defence of assange and the freedom of the press. and finally , i'll be joined by finally, i'll be joined by doctorjohn finally, i'll be joined by doctor john campbell to look finally, i'll be joined by doctorjohn campbell to look at doctor john campbell to look at whether white fibrous clots, which are being found by coroners , are actually an coroners, are actually an indication that we may be facing a new disease in this country. all of that in the company of my panellist , friend, presenter, panellist, friend, presenter, commentator tanya buxton. but first, an update on the latest news from tatiana sanchez . news from tatiana sanchez. >> neil, thank you very much and good evening to your top stories from the gb news room. lee anderson has been suspended from the tory party. it comes after the tory party. it comes after the former deputy chair said the london given the london mayor had given the capital away and was controlled by islamists. the prime minister was under pressure to react after sadiq khan said his deafening silence was condoning racism. a spokesperson for the party's chief whip says the mp was suspended for refusing to

apologise for his comments. in a statement, anderson said i fully accept they had no option but to suspend the whip in the circumstance . however, i'll circumstance. however, i'll continue to support the government's efforts to call out extremism in all its forms, be that anti—semitism or islamophobia . the uk has islamophobia. the uk has reaffirmed its commitment to ukraine as the country's war with russia enters its third yean with russia enters its third year, £245 million has been promised to boost critical stockpiles of ammunition . the stockpiles of ammunition. the defence secretary says he's proud that since the invasion , proud that since the invasion, the uk has trained 60,000 ukrainian troops , adding that no ukrainian troops, adding that no one has done as much for kyiv than the uk. grant shapps says the west will keep going for as long as it takes to fight russian aggression. >> this is a package which will help to provide some of the artillery that's required, particularly front line, particularly on the front line, where russia has really boosted their production levels . so it's their production levels. so it's massively important now that we stop putin. it's going to cost

us more. if he came further, not least , of course, us more. if he came further, not least, of course, being terrible for the our ukrainian friends. but it would also be disastrous for the rest of the west . for the rest of the west. >> shadow defence secretary john healey says the war in ukraine is a global fight. >> i think first to recognise that this isn't just putin fighting on the battlefield in ukraine. this is a diplomatic , ukraine. this is a diplomatic, economic and industry struggle against wider russian aggression and we've got to have a broader uk plan to help defend ukraine and defeat putin. so that does mean tightening sanctions, as you say, closing supply chain loopholes and looking to seize the direct the russian assets that have been stolen to reconstructing ukraine. it also means ramping up our military support . support. >> meanwhile, the king and queen have praised ukrainians for their true valour. king charles also says he's greatly encouraged by the efforts of the uk and its allies in supporting

kyiv at a time of suffering in need of . although he focuses need of. although he focuses show me the monarch was paying his respects at a ukrainian cathedral in central london, where crowds later gathered to show their support for the country and its people . the country and its people. the commemorations began with an interfaith prayer and similar service have been held across the country . the body of russian the country. the body of russian opposition leader alexei navalny has been handed over to his mother. he unexpectedly died in prison nine days ago. his death certificate suggested it was of natural causes . his spokeswoman natural causes. his spokeswoman says it's still not clear whether authorities will allow relatives to hold a funeral. the way his family wants and the way he deserves is junior. doctors in england have walked out for the 10th time since march last year over a pay dispute, the british medical association has asked for a 35% pay rise, which the government says is unreasonable. more than 1.3

million appointments and operations have already been cancelled or rescheduled since industrial action began. the health secretary, victoria atkins, is calling for the strikes to end , saying she wants strikes to end, saying she wants to see doctors treating patients not on picket lines . not on picket lines. >> i want for this to be resolved . i've come to these resolved. i've come to these negotiations with nothing but good intentions and a genuine desire to find a reasonable solution for our junior doctors, but also, importantly, for patients and the public and the taxpayer. so i still want to try and achieve that, but i can only do that if the junior doctors committee plays their part. walking out of negotiations in november was not reasonable. they know that i want to go further. in addition to the up to 10.3% that they have already received into their bank accounts , and thousands of cards accounts, and thousands of cards of support have been sent to king charles following his cancer diagnosis. >> this, the monarch laughed as he read one of them, which had a disgruntled dog on the front, saying at least you don't have

to wear a cone. around 7000 cards sent from around cards have been sent from around the world good wishes, the world offering good wishes, with one child writing never give up, be brave, don't push your limits. others shared their own experiences of cancer, urging the king to stay positive . for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com family hurts now back to . neil. family hurts now back to. neil. >> in the aftermath of the engush >> in the aftermath of the english civil war and the execution of king charles, the first self—appointed scourge of government corruption, oliver cromwell stood in parliament and told the mps sitting there, mps who had been squatting in place for 12 years by then, it's not fit that you should sit here any longer. you've sat here too long for any good you've been doing lately in the name of god, go so doing, he put them out and locked the doors behind them .

locked the doors behind them. that was april, the 20 1653, 371 years ago. but i say the time has come again that the day is long overdue. in fact, to be rid of the whole rotten lot of them. really. the only question is whether we the people should pay for their taxes home one last time or just put them out on the streets and let them get on with it. people ask me, what's the solution to the problem, though? i'll tell you where that solution is not to be found . and solution is not to be found. and that's general election that's the next general election or any other. our democracy has been gelded and the uni party is in control instead. as far as i'm concerned, to still be thinking a change of ruling party in that poisoned palace of westminster make westminster will make any difference . is root of all difference. is the root of all evil switching colours or just leaving them as they are will change creatures change nothing. the creatures that have evolved to thrive there, climb greasy pole, there, to climb the greasy pole, to power , have also made it to power, have also made it a place from which no good can come. my honest opinion is you can't build anything clean for decent when decent people. when your foundation is a muck heap and the palace of westminster is

stacked to the rafters with, well, muck . the fifth labour of well, muck. the fifth labour of hercules was the clearing out of the mountains of muck from the augean stables , and the hero had augean stables, and the hero had to divert two rivers to flush out the filth of years . that's out the filth of years. that's where we are now, with no option but clean and start but to flush, clean and start over we need these over. we don't need these politicians , dear god, save us politicians, dear god, save us from the mass of them. we need a torrent of truth to get rid. last week we were treated to yet another sickening spectacle . in another sickening spectacle. in that place, the mother of parliaments made a. the so—called opposition labour party, leaning on the speaker of the former labour mp sir the house. former labour mp sir lindsay hoyle, to give wriggle room to labour mps reluctant to back an snp call for an unconditional ceasefire to stop the horror in gaza without getting lost in the procedural minutiae of what happened. it looked to me like more of what we've been supposed to get used to in recent years, which is to say corrupt political parties long since adrift from any honest mooring, any sort of care for people here. the people are

supposedly oath bound to serve or care for regular human beings anywhere, are making up the rules as they go along to ensure they keep their handlers happy. those handlers being banks and big business, pure and simple . big business, pure and simple. as always, the threats are not just here at home in france. the government seeks to make it illegal to challenge the safety and efficacy of medical treatments promoted or mandate by that government. the wording of the bill, dubbed article pfizer by critics, is as slippery as a person might expect it from slimy politicians . no explicit mention of the medical products pushed as vaccines , no mention of big vaccines, no mention of big pharma just making it criminal to convince or encourage people to convince or encourage people to refuse so—called reasonable medical treatment. but the shadows of big pharma are unmistakeable in the vision of those paying attention who have seen it all before . if the bill seen it all before. if the bill gets the signature of the french president, it will make the new crime punishable by up to three years in jail. a fine of

,45,000. despite the truth of harms caused now harms caused being glaring now so glaring that even the mainstream media ignore mainstream media can't ignore them longer after them any longer and study after study making plain the damage done by the experiment . gene done by the experiment. gene therapies we had to watch uk prime minister rishi sunak describe those products as unequivocally safe one moment and then the next acknowledge the government's scheme set up to compensate the thousands killed or injured over and over. it's the same all those politicians care about is their puppet masters. bottom line to hell with the health and well—being of the people. they are notionally elected to serve. what matters ? all that matters what matters? all that matters is safeguarding the profits of the corporations the transnational corporations that are the destination of anyone following the money and as always, what slithers into law in one domain will surely slime its way onto the statute books of the rest, so that what's happening in france might soon happen elsewhere , and then soon happen elsewhere, and then everywhere . all of this has its everywhere. all of this has its roots. in 2016, when pesky people in britain voted for

brexit, and then on the other side of the atlantic, more pesky people voted for donald trump . people voted for donald trump. those happenings were what you might call glitches in the matrix. dangerously off script for the powerful not supposed to happen for the first time, and you can be damn sure the powers that be were instantly determined. it would be the last time the democratic will of the people in the uk and in the us define the intentions of those that thought they had shaped the world in their image, and so had it all under control. it was an almighty shock to their system and so bloody mindedly they set about quickly finishing the job of rigging the game in their favour . i of rigging the game in their favour. i say everything of rigging the game in their favour . i say everything since favour. i say everything since from the so—called pandemic onwards has been the punishment beating we were seen to deserve . beating we were seen to deserve. co—director of the foundation for freedom online, mike benz, recently alleged that all of seven months before the us elections in 2020, intel science agencies there in collaborate with big tech platforms all

around the world set in place the means to censor anyone online, questioning the safety of mail in ballots. that process by which people vote in advance . by which people vote in advance. i say again, mike benz's research seemed to show that seven months before the last us election, the us is establishment aka the intelligence military industrial complex , was demonstrably complex, was demonstrably worried people might be suspicious about a biden election win, seemed to have benefited in disproportionate volume from mail in votes . and volume from mail in votes. and so, he says, tech platforms around the world were tweaked so that at a stroke, tens of millions of posts online casting doubt on the legitimacy of mail in ballots could be censored into oblivion . benz insists the into oblivion. benz insists the us establishment set about writing it into law , that writing it into law, that elections were as much a part of the critical infrastructure of that nation as the power grid, so that anyone asking questions about the legitimacy of the system in place to make

elections happen was potentially guilty of nothing less than a cyber attack , which would mean cyber attack, which would mean that in the united states, a person posting on social media that they don't trust mail in ballots is open to conviction of cyber terrorism . just by saying cyber terrorism. just by saying as much online. let me say again, they and by they i mean the establishment, again, they and by they i mean the establishment , those that the establishment, those that collectively have their hands on the levers of power are as busy as little bees. and what they're busy doing is making up the rules as they go along in open defiance of the will of the people. they are everywhere in the world health organisation . the world health organisation. they are pushing through changes to the pandemic preparedness treaty to give unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats the power to insist member states like the uk do what they say in relation to climate, disease and much else besides, and not what we, the people say via our elected governments. one world government writ large mandated medical procedure . anyone medical procedure. anyone submission to lockdowns demanded

by the who. lockdowns to deal with climate change. all of those and more are coming down the line . back in the uk, we got the line. back in the uk, we got the line. back in the uk, we got the news this week that the office for national statistics, our government's preferred source of official data, has changed how it calculates excess deaths. this is surely interesting to say the least, for years now, the ons figures for years now, the ons figures for excess deaths, which is to say the number of people dropping dead every day when they were not expected to, when all indications were that they were fit and well , have been were fit and well, have been alarmingly high or at least alarmingly high or at least alarming to anyone who doesn't have their eyes shut, fingers in their ears while saying la la la as loud as the lungs will let them, and for the vast majority of mps in that toxic hellhole of westminster, that does indeed mean you , month after month and mean you, month after month and year after year, since 2021, thousands more people have been dying every month. the young and fit, the otherwise healthy , fit, the otherwise healthy, middle aged, the fit and active

elderly then should have . up elderly then should have. up until now, the ons figures have made that brutally plain and yet, for reasons that make sense to the ons and by extension , the to the ons and by extension, the establishment, the means by which those totals are tallied , which those totals are tallied, the way that has served us for decades has all at once been changed and completely. doctor john campbell, who will be a guest later in the show, looked at the fresh figures this week. he showed how in week 21 of september 2023, by the current method , 1066 people died when method, 1066 people died when not expected to, while by the new method, the excess death toll changed to just 662, that for week 24 of last year, the old method made it 1172 deaths in excess of expectations. while under the new means it falls to 645, and that while the old method found that in week 32, 427 more people than expected dropped dead under the new technique , we learn that 89 technique, we learn that 89

people, fewer than might have been expected actually died. let us imagine how comforting this new method is for those wilfully deaf and blind mps. no more do they have to be pestered by an mp like andrew bridgen calling for debates and investigations into deaths . now they can into excess deaths. now they can say that ons data shows there's nothing at all to be worried about. make no mistake , despite about. make no mistake, despite the way the ons data now makes the way the ons data now makes the figures appear, all of the dead people are still dead . dead people are still dead. every single one of them. it's just that under the new counting regime , their deaths are no regime, their deaths are no longer deemed excessive. i'd like to be able to explain the changes to the way the deaths are being counted , but here's are being counted, but here's the relevant page on the ons website. and i'll confess that the unpicking of that kind of maths is as distant from me as truth is distant from the palace of westminster here's the thing the system , the system here, and the system, the system here, and the system, the system here, and the related systems around the west have been made rotten by a self—described elite that has

held onto power too long. the very notion of democracy that the people hold the power has been targeted by that self—described elite. as the fundamental threat to their authority . and so it's been authority. and so it's been carefully and deliberately dismantled right under our noses. well, of the people be damned. now the system is rigged. so that our will matters not a jot if we, the people, are to regain control role. and before any votes in any election might make a difference, we must clear the muck from the stables to those westminster. i refer to those in westminster. i refer them all once more to the fabled words of oliver cromwell. you've sat there too long in the name of god. or, if you prefer , in of god. or, if you prefer, in the name of all that's good, just go. i'm joined now by friend of the show, tanya buxton , commentator, show, tanya buxton, commentator, author tanya . are they making author tanya. are they making the rules up as they go along?

absolutely. >> and what you said , just go. >> and what you said, just go. just go. we are sick of them. we're sick of the corruption. we're sick of the corruption. we're sick of the corruption. we're sick of the way that they twist the truth . exactly what's twist the truth. exactly what's happening now . constant twisting happening now. constant twisting of the truth to the point that we're all hopeless. we feel hopeless , but we can't allow hopeless, but we can't allow that to carry on. because if we do, then there will be no change in one way, i think they're succeeding. they in plain sight lie to us. twist the rules, tell untruths , lie and convince us untruths, lie and convince us that we're going mad. we know that we're going mad. we know that they convinced us during lockdown when so many of us were screaming, this is going to hurt the children. this is going to hurt so many people. they made us feel like we were we were the bad guys. we were trying to kill our grandmothers when it was just see that if you just plain to see that if you lock people in houses, all this time, children can't mix with other children. this is what's going to happen. so of it going to happen. so much of it is they made that is lies. they made us feel that we have choice , that there's

we have no choice, that there's nothing we can do but there is. >> now this week or >> and now this week or thereabouts, there's a new study has come out. the biggest yet conducted. i think it's 100 conducted. i think it's100 million people in eight countries. and lo and behold, the conclusion has been drawn that the products pushed as vaccines caused deaths and harm and sadly, a lot of the same people that were in the business of shaming and silencing and censoring so—called anti—vaxxers, who were just people with questions, are now out there in the same space. so suddenly asking questions. it's sickening. >> it's so sickening. and when you question these people , in you question these people, in particular the journalists, because where were the journalists? they say, yes , but journalists? they say, yes, but but we, we were given a narrative , an agenda. we had to narrative, an agenda. we had to follow it. and i was like, but you're journalists. it's your job not to do that. what happened during that time? because i don't think they're all bad, sinister, corrupt, conflicted people. but just

somewhere along the line, they they lost themselves. >> and of course, in the case of juuan >> and of course, in the case of julian assange, which is live now, and that we're going to discuss in a moment, the journalists were shown what will happen journalists tell happen to journalists that tell the truth. that's what he did. he published. he published undeniably information . and undeniably true information. and for that a crimes being created, he is in prison for being a properjournalist . proper journalist. >> how can that be? properjournalist. >> how can that be? how proper journalist. >> how can that be? how can that be in britain? how can that be happening in the free world? >> we will consider answers to those questions after the break. juuan those questions after the break. julian assange has indeed launched his final appeal against us extradition , lawyers against us extradition, lawyers for the wikileaks founder have told london's high court he faces a flagrant denial of justice. i'll be joined by one of jennifer robinson. don't go anywhere .

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radio. >> welcome back. the us government says julian assange created a grave and imminent risk to agents overseas when his wikileaks website published classified us documents, they argue he went a considerable way beyond the role of a journalist in gathering information. assange's supporters say he's a hero who is being persecuted for exposing us wrongdoing . i'm exposing us wrongdoing. i'm joined by his lawyer, jennifer robinson, to examine the case further. thank so much for further. thank you so much for being jennifer. are we being here, jennifer. are we witnessing right before our eyes the creation of a new crime , the creation of a new crime, which is a publisher publishing the truth? >> well, that's exactly what juuan >> well, that's exactly what julian assange is being prosecuted for. we're seeing the it's the first in history it's the first time in history the is using the espionage the us is using the espionage act against a publisher. and even times, the even the new york times, the washington mainstream washington post, mainstream media saying media organisations are saying this criminalising public media organisations are saying this crjournalisticpublic media organisations are saying this crjournalistic practices interest, journalistic practices that we engage in all the time. so that's what he's being prosecuted for. journalism >> i'm one of many things that leaps out right away is if he is a publisher, is guilty of something by dint of having published about of the

published what about all of the mainstream publishers just in this country , the mainstream this country, the mainstream titles who also publish that information? are they next in line for extradition ? line for extradition? >> i think it's naive to think that this precedent won't be used against the rest of the media. julian is being prosecuted for engaging in journalistic we journalistic activity. we talk about new times about the new york times problem. cannot distinguish problem. you cannot distinguish between does between what julian assange does and rest of the media and what the rest of the media does. you've got does. and when you've got a president president trump president like president trump calling the of calling the media the enemy of the people, enough to the people, it's not enough to say well, he's something say that, well, he's something different the mainstream different to the mainstream media. will to them. media. this will apply to them. this this indictment is this is this this indictment is absolutely criminalising journalism absolutely criminalising journali you work with them for >> can you work with them for us? the extradition treaty , us? the extradition treaty, because, as i understand it, as a layperson, um, where there's the threat of death, you're not supposed to be extradited. and where it's on political motives . where it's on political motives. you're not supposed to be extradited. that's right. and yet that feels like, to a layperson, what is happening to

juuan layperson, what is happening to julian assange. >> that's exactly right. the us, uk treaty prohibits being extradited for a political offence. the offence. espionage is the typical so typical political offence. so the for any the very basis for any extradition from the extradition request from the united prohibits the kind united states prohibits the kind of requests made . and so of requests they've made. and so we it's unlawful. should we say it's unlawful. he should not the other not be extradited. the other very aspect of this very concerning aspect of this case is that facts on the case is that the facts on the indictment as charged could , indictment as charged could, once he's extradited to the united states , form the basis of united states, form the basis of new charges could attract new charges that could attract the penalty, the the death penalty, aiding the enemy, for example, or conspiracy enemy, conspiracy to aid the enemy, which under the which is a provision under the espionage act. if he is . so this espionage act. if he is. so this is this should be prohibited. and we heard in court this week, judges asking us counsel for the home secretary saying, well, if he's extradited, could he face the death penalty? they said, yes. and he said, well, is there any protection against it? they said no. and so there has been no assurance united no assurance from the united states protecting him against that potential exposure to the death that is not death penalty. and that is not permitted. tanya i said, you heard me say they're making up the rules as they go along. >> now jennifer is saying, >> now what? jennifer is saying, this just like that. you

this sounds just like that. you know, standing says know, the standing treaty says you this. you can't do you can't do this. you can't do that. well, we will. >> it's the extreme hypocrisy of it well. they're saying, it all as well. they're saying, and people are arguing and when people are arguing against him, they well, he against him, they say, well, he caused the death he could have caused the death he could have caused people that caused the death of people that were with the american were working with the american government. many government. whatever. how many deaths when he deaths did biden cause when he pulled of pulled the soldiers out of afghanistan left all the afghanistan and left all the people that were aiding the american then people that were aiding the ame many then people that were aiding the ame many deaths then people that were aiding the ame many deaths does then people that were aiding the ame many deaths does he then people that were aiding the ame many deaths does he cause? how many deaths does he cause? is he to go to jail for is he going to go to jail for the deaths that he caused? it's the deaths that he caused? it's the hypocrisy of it all that is unbelievable. but the main thing is, julian assange has is, is that julian assange has been prison, is in prison now been in prison, is in prison now for a journalist , a for being a journalist, a proper, true journalist, which we know has died in the free world. so it's of the utmost importance that he does not he needs to be freed now and without any charge at all, because all he did was do his job properly as a journalist, telling the truth. >> what is it? >> what is it? >> how is julian assange? >> how is julian assange? >> i mean, i know it was

reported that he wasn't fit to take part, not even by, you know, remote camera or whatever this has been going on for such an unimaginably long part portion of one man's life , this limbo. >> he's been under restrictions on his liberty since 2010. he's been he was in the embassy for seven and a half years, protecting himself against the risk of us extradition, which is exactly what happened the moment he was dragged there by he was dragged out of there by british was served british police. he was served with us extradition request with a us extradition request and than years now in and more than five years now in and more than five years now in a security prison, his a high security prison, his health deteriorated health has deteriorated significantly over this time, and medical and the accepted medical evidence british courts evidence in the british courts is extradited to is that if he's extradited to the states, the the united states, the oppressive conditions he oppressive prison conditions he will combined with his will face, combined with his depressive illness, autistic depressive illness, his autistic diagnosis will cause his suicide. so when you hear his wife say, this is a matter of life or death, death, if he's extradited , the prison extradited, the prison conditions he could could conditions he could face could could death. and could result in his death. and so you're sitting in so when you're sitting in belmarsh isolation , as belmarsh prison in isolation, as he down the prospect he is staring down the prospect act of extradition to those conditions , as it has a serious conditions, as it has a serious toll on your mental and physical

health and where are we now as a as a western culture with rule of law, with notions like habeas corpus? >> you know, the idea that you are not to be destroyed or or in any way ruined or stripped of your life and property until you've faced a jury of your peers and cruel, unusual punishments and prohibitions against those. and yet, as a civilisation, we're watching in real time, round the clock that very thing happening to one publisher. that's all he is. he's a publisher. >> he's a publisher who's won journalism awards. the world over and been nominated for the nobel peace prize for the very same publications for which the us put him in prison. us want to put him in prison. for the rest of his life. face 175 years in prison. but it's not just breakdown. it's the not just the breakdown. it's the breakdown of the rule of law. we ran of abusive process ran a number of abusive process arguments this case, so arguments in this case, so i have been spied on the rest of julian's been julian's legal team has been spied privileged spied on legally privileged material seized. his material has been seized. his medical have been medical appointments have been spied plotted to spied on. the cia plotted to kidnap kill him . you can't kidnap and kill him. you can't make up what has happened in

this case. and yet it continues. as we saw earlier, espionage act prosecutions under the nixon administration thrown out for far abuse process than far less abuse of process than this. yet, in this era, this. and yet, in this era, under administration, under a biden administration, this prosecution continues despite these incredible incursions on civil liberties and indeed, legal privilege . and indeed, legal privilege. >> tonya, what does this say to you about our blessed british judicial system? what faith do you have? >> none at all. and look at look at our system and look at what we're saying about russia at the moment. are we not exactly the same now? then, if some you know somebody, he if he gets extradited if he extradited and even if he doesn't belmarsh top doesn't he's in belmarsh top security prison just for being a journalist . it's unbelievable journalist. it's unbelievable that this is happening in today's age. i mean, i don't understand hand why people aren't protesting more. i don't understand why the media isn't protesting more . this is we have protesting more. this is we have what has happened to our soul. what's happened to the fact that what's right must be right? what's going on in the world? >> you're right to ask questions

about the protest and the safety of our souls , but we have to go of our souls, but we have to go into a break at the moment. but jennhen into a break at the moment. but jennifer, you're going to stay, and we're going to continue this discussion birtles, discussion with jasmine birtles, who familiar to viewers who will be familiar to viewers of the show and who has been taking part the protest . what taking part in the protest. what does all mean for freedom does it all mean for the freedom of press? you're watching of the press? you're watching neil live on gb as

that they can go on week on and week out. >> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> welcome back . allegedly, >> welcome back. allegedly, juuan >> welcome back. allegedly, julian assange put lives at risk by releasing classified us documents, and she'd be extradited to face justice. a high court hearing has been told. but what is he really guilty of? and what does it all mean the rest us? joining mean for the rest of us? joining mean for the rest of us? joining me is staunch supporter of me now is staunch supporter of assange and all he stands for. and by so much so that she's been outside the royal courts of justice this week. jasmine birtles familiar face for anyone familiar this show, familiar with this show, i suppose to you

suppose i've got to ask you what, um, what that was like . what, um, what that was like. what you saw and what what the what you saw and what it was that you were a part of. >> there a good >> well, there were a good number of people considering the weather. it really cold. weather. it was really cold. windy there a lot weather. it was really cold. wi people there a lot weather. it was really cold. wi people standing re a lot weather. it was really cold. wi people standing there a lot of people standing there with their . um, really, you their umbrellas. um, really, you know, firmly supporting julian assange. there were quite a lot of speakers. we had people who were journalists. we had people from the national union of journalists. we had people who were about all sorts of were speaking about all sorts of human rights. it was it was a whole sort of human rights event, really. and people were coming was coming and going. so it was it was active. yeah >> um, we've seen in other contexts the very nature , the contexts the very nature, the very behaviour of protesting vilified, um, in this country. >> very much so. >> very much so. >> what does that tell us? >> what does that tell us? >> well, it's very worrying. you know, the idea the very idea that our government could suggest best that protest , suggest best that protest, peaceful protest should not be allowed is a total blow to democracy. and i'm pleased to see that on both sides of the fence, right and left, so—called

left and right, um, there have been complaints about this, so it's gone a bit quiet. but i was very concerned when there were these suggestions that we might not be allowed peacefully not be allowed to peacefully protest . protest. >> and think it's worthwhile >> and i think it's worthwhile considering. have you been a lifelong protester about issues? >> do you know i haven't , i >> do you know i haven't, i protest, protested against the iraq war. >> you know, that was a huge one. and i remember being furious for years afterwards that nothing it did nothing. you know, blair went on with, with what he was doing, but then nothing until 2020. and then i was protesting every single month i was out there angry against lockdown, against enforced vaccination , against enforced vaccination, against all the surveillance and authoritarianism that has crept or really been imposed on us in the last four years. i'm totally against it and i will continue . against it and i will continue. and i do think that it actually does make a difference. i think that when you have a lot of people , obviously the more the people, obviously the more the merrier, really. but when you do

have actually out on the have people actually out on the streets, even though it may not be covered mainstream media be covered by mainstream media and ours weren't for four years, pretty much they weren't covered. the powers that be know that it's there. they've got the helicopters going. they they know that there's a significant body of people that are willing to get off their sofas and actually go outside and complain and shout it is noticed. i think jennifer , from, from obviously jennifer, from, from obviously you're at the eye of the storm. >> um, how much does it matter to see when you turn up of a morning and there are people there who are , you know, there who are, you know, standing defence of freedom? standing in defence of freedom? >> think it makes a huge >> i think it makes a huge difference. strong difference. it sends a strong signal to the government and even to court people even to the court that people care these issues. and care about these issues. and certainly it's wonderful for juuan certainly it's wonderful for julian to see that kind of support the street for support out in the street for him. frankly, i hadn't seen him. and frankly, i hadn't seen a outside a protest like that outside court saw this court before. what we saw this week for julian, and court before. what we saw this week forjulian, and it court before. what we saw this week for julian, and it was really to show to see really heartening to show to see that kind of support on street. >> so the problem, sorry, one of the problems with with julian's case, it's going on

case, i think it's been going on for long. for so long. >> a lot people, people >> a lot of people, people who are awake very are actually quite awake very interested democracy, etc. interested in democracy, etc. they've forgotten what it's about. they've forgotten what it's about . they have vague idea about. they have a vague idea that that he's somewhere he's he's in prison, you know , a lot he's in prison, you know, a lot of are like, oh, he of people are like, oh, is he still with the ecuadorian, um, place? you know, a lot of place? and, you know, a lot of people have forgotten what the issue was, and they have to be reminded. and so i think that's a bit of an issue really at the moment. know jennifer moment. they don't know jennifer , how much was made of the fact that as as the, the, the us that as was as the, the, the us was challenged about that. >> one they haven't been able >> no one they haven't been able to name anyone who was hurt on account of anything that was published. >> has that made any kind of dentin >> has that made any kind of dent in any of their armour? >> well, i think it's important to point out this is something that these are allegations that are about julian assange. are made about julian assange. all and about the all the time and about the wikileaks the wikileaks publications on the us's and own us's own case and their own affidavit evidence before this court. no evidence that court. there is no evidence that anyone physically anyone was physically harmed as anyone was physically harmed as a of these publications. anyone was physically harmed as a the of these publications. anyone was physically harmed as a the us hese publications. anyone was physically harmed as a the us governmentitions. anyone was physically harmed as a the us government case, even and the us government case, even in the in the arguments for the court, this week focussed on the

potential while potential risks for harm while completely ignoring the war crimes were revealed. the crimes that were revealed. the thousands civilians killed in thousands of civilians killed in iraq by americans was iraq by the americans that was revealed wikileaks , the revealed by wikileaks, the immense state criminality immense us state criminality that was revealed by wikileaks. so talking the so why are we talking about the capacity these publications capacity for these publications to when to cause harm when the publication themselves showed the caused by the united the harm caused by the united states? not talking the harm caused by the united statesthat not talking the harm caused by the united statesthat ? not talking the harm caused by the united statesthat ? and not talking the harm caused by the united statesthat ? and that )t talking the harm caused by the united statesthat ? and that waslking the harm caused by the united statesthat ? and that was a ng the harm caused by the united statesthat ? and that was a key about that? and that was a key part of argument this week. part of our argument this week. >> don't want to, do >> and they don't want to, do they? because really, essentially, been essentially, the cia has been embarrassed, massively embarrassed, massively embarrassed . they we've seen now embarrassed. they we've seen now in living colour what the cia has been doing. and they don't really care. i mean, i'm sure they don't really care about who's been harmed, who hasn't been harmed the whole thing is their embarrassment that it's been shown all the wicked things that they have done. um, and that they have done. um, and that i think it's rich revenge. they're out for revenge. it's not justice, it's just revenge. hence mike pompeo basically wanting to have him murdered. you know , and that's what i you know, and that's what i think would i mean, you've said

already what if he goes back to america ? that's essentially what america? that's essentially what will happen . he'll be murdered will happen. he'll be murdered in some way . in some way. >> tanya, we should just be ashamed of ourselves, really, shouldn't we? that this is happening here on our this is happening here on our this is happening is, is that >> the point is, is that thousands of people were murdered because american murdered because of american actions cia were behind actions, and the cia were behind most of it. why are the cia not being disbanded? why are they not up in front of not being drawn up in front of a court the people? that should court of the people? that should be for their be judging them for their behaviour allegedly behaviour that they've allegedly been our behalf? why? been doing on our behalf? why? and trying to do is and what they're trying to do is subterfuge, isn't it? don't look at what we've done. at what at what we've done. look at what this then they this guy's done. and then they made these other things this guy's done. and then they made julian these other things this guy's done. and then they made julian assange her things this guy's done. and then they made julian assange that�*nings this guy's done. and then they made julian assange that they about julian assange that they got press. it's so got into the press. it's so sinister. it's so sinister that we don't have truth anymore . and we don't have truth anymore. and that lying and harming people and going into wars, we shouldn't go into interfere owing us good guys. we are the barometer of democracy. we are the way people should be. we're not. we are. we have become the bad guys and we need to. we need to identify with that and we need to change and by

need to change it. and by allowing julian to go allowing allowing julian to go home, back to australia , home, to go back to australia, that's one step towards doing that's one step towards doing that. >> yeah , i know i'm not going to >> yeah, i know i'm not going to ask you to predict anything and pre—empt anything, but what what are the choices so to speak. >> what are the what are the range of outcomes that we might see? >> well , this is an application >> well, this is an application for permission to appeal . so the for permission to appeal. so the judges could grant permission . judges could grant permission. and then we'll be in the appeal process here in the british courts for however long. another year or two if we're unsuccessful , will the home unsuccessful, will the home secretary will order his extradition. there's no further domestic appeals, and we'll be then left to apply to the european of human rights. european court of human rights. we're that. we have we're prepared for that. we have an ready to and an application ready to go, and we have strong we believe we have strong grounds europe and that grounds to go to europe and that that court to that the european court ought to order measures to order provisional measures to stop being extradited. stop him from being extradited. would declared would you declared in that event, declared event, would your declared intention to appeal to the court intention to appeal to the court in europe, keep julian assange here, or would the extradition happen at the same time as you

sought to pursue it into europe ? sought to pursue it into europe? if the european court orders provisional measures , the provisional measures, the british government an british government has an obugafion british government has an obligation to keep him here until time as the european until such time as the european court makes its decision. but why can't he be house arrest? why can't he be on house arrest? >> ultimate been >> i mean, ultimate he's been he's at a high he's been in prison at a high security prison, which he's doing for telling the doing time for telling the truth, which is mind blowing . truth, which is mind blowing. he's doing time for telling the truth, at least if he's going to do that, why are they not allowing him to be under house arrest? why does have be arrest? why does he have to be treated vicious treated like he's some vicious rapist, paedophile rapist, murderer, paedophile where he's in top security? why is he regarded as some sort of flight risk in the event of not actually being behind bars? >> applications have so >> our bail applications have so far been unsuccessful because of the history of him going to the ecuadorian embassy. this is the stated reasoning of the judges that gone to ecuadorian that he's gone to the ecuadorian embassy they say embassy to seek asylum. they say fled british justice. this case has gone on so long it's disproportionate to keep him in prison this long. he's got a wife and two little kids in this country. think that this country. um, i think that this justice will be served by

allowing him out of prison while we our remedies we exhaust our remedies available here. >> of course , you know, the >> of course, you know, the british government essentially is lapdog the american government. >> i mean, we know it. we see it over and over. and i do feel that this is an entirely political event. the british government is just behaving in the way that it thinks america wants to do or is being told by america that what they want them to do . and this i'm sure , is to do. and this i'm sure, is a worry for you, jen, that that you're concerned that there will be pressure on the judges here to just do essentially what what america, the cia wants them to do? >> well , i do? >> well, i certainly hope the british judges will show the independence that our system is famous for . and my concern is famous for. and my concern is that , you know, we have the that, you know, we have the australian government support . australian government support. my australian government support. my concern trying to get him australian government support. my conctor trying to get him australian government support. my concto gettrying to get him australian government support. my concto get him; to get him australian government support. my concto get him homeet him australian government support. my concto get him home torim out and to get him home to australia. the australian government is now with us and is raising with the raising this matter with the united i would like united states. and i would like to think that the united states will start to listen to australia. a special australia. we're in a special relationship australia. we're in a special relationshicitizen. we're in a australian citizen. we're in a

special relationship the special relationship with the united government united states. our government has this come to has said we want this to come to an end. we want him to come home. my hope is that america home. so my hope is that america will to listen . will start to listen. >> the world is watching . that's >> the world is watching. that's perhaps the most we can say. jack birtles, jennifer anderson and tanya. who's going to stay with me? thank you so much for your contributions evening. with me? thank you so much for your yus tributions evening. with me? thank you so much for your yus tribto ons evening. with me? thank you so much for youryustribto ons if evening. with me? thank you so much for your yus tribto ons if you ning. with me? thank you so much for your yus tribto ons if you will. keep us up to date, if you will. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> want another break? after which i'll be speaking to , uh, which i'll be speaking to, uh, doctor campbell to discuss doctor john campbell to discuss findings from recent autopsies, which may indicate we have a new. and so far unknown disease is amongst us. don't go away .

welcome back. now, doctor john welcome back. now, doctorjohn campbell , welcome back. now, doctorjohn campbell, who's welcome back. now, doctorjohn campbell , who's also welcome back. now, doctorjohn campbell, who's also a familiar face on this show, says the evidence is physical. it exists. you can see it, feel it, put it under a microscope . it's real.

under a microscope. it's real. he's referring to blood clots being found by coroner's morticians and those who look after the bodies of the dead doctor john campbell joins me now . hello john. doctor john campbell joins me now. hello john. thank you for making time . making time. >> always a pleasure, neal. thank you . thank you. >> what are we looking at? what are we seeing? and i think we have footage and imagery to give people a glimpse. >> it really is like something out of a low grade novel, neal, isn't it? you've got this new or apparently completely new pathology being found in dead bodies around the world, and we know that these have been found, these strange, mysterious, long, rubbery white clots have been found in bodies in the united kingdom. the united states, canada , the new zealand , canada, the new zealand, australia, now , i've actually australia, now, i've actually heard about these some time ago, but i didn't realise how abundant they were. and then i was interviewing major tom haviland, who's a data analyst

in the states, and he's actually reached out to 269 embalmers with an average of 15 years experience each are embalming about 100 bodies, a year on average per person . and in the average per person. and in the year 2023, 73% of these embalmed have observed these strange white straw rubbery clots. really quite incredible. and if you take into account the embalmers that didn't see any , embalmers that didn't see any, it was still in 20% of the dead bodies . and it seems to be bodies. and it seems to be pretty similar in the united states. and in the united kingdom. and we really don't know what these are . these are a know what these are. these are a new pathology . and as you said new pathology. and as you said in the introduction, this is real. it's not a bad story. these rubbery clots that can be aninch these rubbery clots that can be an inch long or can be up to 30in long, are there. and have been pulled out of the arterial systems and the venous systems of dead bodies and the some anecdotal reports of them being pulled out of living bodies by

surgeons as well. but we know for sure in about 20% of dead bodies. and these didn't occur pnor bodies. and these didn't occur prior to 2020. so previously it had never heard of , prior to 2020. so previously it had never heard of, um, in 2020, some people saw very small numbers, but then lots in 2021, 2022, 2023. >> as someone immersed in the medical world, the medical fraternal . party, do you get fraternal. party, do you get a sense that anyone, anywhere is putting sick consideration into all of the possible explanation lines for where something new has appeared in the last handful of years ? of years? >> not really. i don't really get that impression, neal. and in fact, the way that postmortems are done, well, firstly , there's pure firstly, there's pure post—mortems in the united post—mortems done in the united kingdom at the moment, and i believe in the united states. but way they're done, they but the way they're done, they take blocks and take out blocks of organs and don't analyse the don't really analyse the vascular system in that much detail. and one of the

undertakers, as was talking to on this, he'd actually got a body that had been post—mortem autopsied, came back into his facility. he was trying to embalm this body because relatives wanted viewings. and as he was taking , he was trying as he was taking, he was trying to um, he was looking at the body and he couldn't get the embalming fluid around the body . embalming fluid around the body. and he pulled out a 30 inch clot from the femoral artery in the leg. really is quite leg. it really is quite incredible. the question, of incredible. the big question, of course when these clots course, is when did these clots form ? were they forming or form? were they forming or starting to form in the months, weeks , hours before death? is it weeks, hours before death? is it a very death phenomena? a a very death phenomena? is it a post—mortem only phenomena? it does appear that there are some cases where this occurs. these occurred in life, but either way it doesn't matter . for i've it doesn't matter. for i've talked to about 20 doctors around the world now , including around the world now, including 3 or 4 medical professors , a 3 or 4 medical professors, a couple of pathologists , and many couple of pathologists, and many doctors and physicians and surgeons . and they'd never heard surgeons. and they'd never heard of this . this does appear to be of this. this does appear to be a genuinely new pathology . a genuinely new pathology. >> john, bear with me. while i

involved tanya , who's in the involved tanya, who's in the studio with me . what do you studio with me. what do you think, tanya? you look at a sudden emergence of a new medical phenomenon . medical phenomenon. >> global global phenomenon , >> global global phenomenon, phenomenon, and what have you would you like to speculate? well what have we done differently globally that we haven't done before? >> 2020, 2021? we all know what it is. we all know what it could well be. and yet we are restricted from saying out loud what we truly believe it to be because we don't live in a free world anymore. what's the big thing that we've done different? we all know it. >> john. john, how is it? how doesit >> john. john, how is it? how does it feel to be operating in a world where, uh , speculating a world where, uh, speculating about things that appear quite obvious is somehow forbidden ground ? and, you know, this is ground? and, you know, this is this is the new reality for the likes of us. >> it's rather frustrating. i mean , in the 1950s and early mean, in the 1950s and early 1960s, austin bradford hill and richard doll believed that lung cancer might be caused by

cigarette smoking. and in 1965, austin bradford hill came out with a set of criteria where we can adjudicate these sorts of things and we have these criteria . we have the criteria. we have the pathologists, we have the histologists, we have the cytologists . we could analyse cytologists. we could analyse this properly, we could use these bradford hill criteria . is these bradford hill criteria. is there a correlation? how big is that correlation? is there consistency between different countries. are there other possible explanations. does a particular cause, um follow a particular cause, um follow a particular cause, um follow a particular cause . is that is the particular cause. is that is the is the effect come after the cause and not the other way around ? and this is this is around? and this is this is clean and effective . something clean and effective. something is this temporal correlation . is is this temporal correlation. is there a biological gradient . are there a biological gradient. are there a biological gradient. are there plausible mechanisms . is there plausible mechanisms. is there plausible mechanisms. is there coherence? is there experimental evidence. is there analogy and potentially is there reversibility ? we know all these reversibility? we know all these things we could do all these things we could do all these things work out. what the heck is going on here? and it really seems strange that this isn't all over the medical literature as a new pathology .

as a brand new pathology. >> tonya you know, we do know that , you know, >> tonya you know, we do know that, you know, billions of people around world in people around the world had in the a new the last few years, a new medical product introduced to their yes and yet we're their bodies. yes and yet we're not, it would appear , from what not, it would appear, from what john that no john is saying, that that no serious consideration being serious consideration is being made emergence a made about the emergence of a new symptom, a new post mortem symptom, because we are we are run and governed by big pharma, and big pharma have a lot of money to make, and they don't want to actually this want us to actually have this open and honest conversation about what is suddenly appearing in our bodies, in the bodies of our children, the bodies of our parents. and while i have you, john, the new way of calculating excess deaths , uh, to which excess deaths, uh, to which i referred, are just a quick answer. what? how much of a surprise was that for you ? surprise was that for you? >> not much of a surprise , neil. >> not much of a surprise, neil. it's, uh. it's good to know that so people died in so many fewer people died in 2023 than we thought had. you know, i thought had bit of know, i thought we had a bit of a a minute. so it's a problem for a minute. so it's all a relief. i mean, it all quite a relief. i mean, it just beggars credulity, doesn't it? don't like the it? you know, we don't like the figures. are being figures. politicians are being embarrassed. hayhoe, you

embarrassed. so hayhoe, you change these deaths change the way that these deaths are being tame. >> john. credulity well and truly thank you so truly troubled. thank you so much for being with me, if only briefly john. afraid that's briefly, john. i'm afraid that's really all it is. all i have time for this week. uh, a big thank you to all of my guests, especially you, tonia. thank you for staying with me the end . for staying with me to the end. and a big you to all my and a big thank you to all my guests. the guests. next up, it's the saturday five and i will see you next on neil oliver live . next week on neil oliver live. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers is sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello. good evening. welcome to your latest gb. news, weather and greg dewhurst. we'll see some frost and fog forming through tonight, but we do have some rain moving into some heavy rain moving into southern parts of england and wales as we go through sunday and courtesy of and into monday. courtesy of this area low pressure. met this area of low pressure. met office already out for office warnings already out for this part of the world through into monday morning. this evening, though , plenty of dry

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