indeed hoax? or is it the start of a slippery slope? and over in greece, they are going to let undocumented migrants work here in this country. we've got a shedload of vacancies and more and more people off sick . what and more people off sick. what do you reckon then? should we should we be doing the same in the uk? getting those migrants to work and help boost the economy, get them out of the hotels, into the workforce ? you hotels, into the workforce? you tell me. and northern leaders they are not having any of it. >> we're just not going to lie down and accept the way whitehall has always treated the north of england. we are fighting back. >> it's fighting back. talk >> it's fighting back. they talk there scrapping there about scrapping potentially part of potentially the northern part of hs2. what do you think about that? are they letting the north down? is it time to scrap the whole what about northern whole thing? what about northern powerhouse three? do powerhouse rail three? do we need that in the north? give me all your thoughts . but first, all your thoughts. but first, let's grab tonight's latest headunes let's grab tonight's latest

headlines as . michelle. headlines as. michelle. >> thank you. good evening. a 15 year old girl has died after being stabbed in croydon in south london. she was on her way to school. emergency services were called to wellesley road at 8.30 this morning. one eyewitness is describing seeing a bus driver and a passer by trying to resuscitate the teenage girl. she was a student at the old palace school for girls. a 17 year at the old palace school for girls. a17 year old at the old palace school for girls. a 17 year old boy at the old palace school for girls. a17 year old boy has been arrested. police say he was known to the victim . well, in known to the victim. well, in other news today, five labour mayors from across the country have met in leeds today to urge the prime minister to stay on track with hs2 . they warn that track with hs2. they warn that failure to deliver in full will leave vast swathes of the north with victor gao torian rail infrastructure unfit for purpose. rishi sunak faces a political backlash, though, over reports he's considered axing the section between birmingham and manchester amid soaring costs . london mayor sadiq khan

costs. london mayor sadiq khan says there are huge benefits to hs2 . hs2. >> i'm really pleased to have been invited by the cross—party transport for north to their board meeting this morning. we may be mayors from different regions, but we speak with one voice when we say we don't want cuts to high speed . two, we see cuts to high speed. two, we see the benefits of high speed. two in relation to economic growth, in relation to economic growth, in relation to increasing capacity, increasing connectivity, increasing in speed, and it means we can have the same sort of transport links that france has, that spain has, that france has, that spain has, that germany has. i'm worried that germany has. i'm worried that cutting high speed two will cause huge damage to london and the south—east >> sadiq khan now this company gb news, has suspended its presenter , dan wootton. it comes presenter, dan wootton. it comes after offensive comments were made by laurence fox during an interview on this channel last night . he interview on this channel last night. he made a series of derogatory remarks about journalist ava evans , who's a journalist ava evans, who's a political correspondent for the news website. presenter laurence fox has also been suspended with

immediate effect and taken off air. in a statement, gb news called the comments unacceptable and said it will be conducting a full investigation on and issuing a formal apology to ms evans. issuing a formal apology to ms evans . the uk's largest untapped evans. the uk's largest untapped oil and gas field , rosebank, in oil and gas field, rosebank, in scotland, has been approved for development. that's despite a row over climate damage. regulators say net zero considerations have been taken into account, but scotland's first minister, humza yousaf, says he's disappointed the project's been given the go ahead.the project's been given the go ahead. the uk government has welcomed the decision, saying it'll raise billions of pounds as the united nations has rejected . the home secretary's rejected. the home secretary's calls for international law on refugees to be changed. in a speech yesterday in washington in the united states, suella braverman suggested that the united nations 1951 refugee convention needed updating. she argued, fearing discrimination for being gay or a woman

shouldn't be enough to qualify for international refugee protection . lucy frazer, who's protection. lucy frazer, who's secretary of state for culture, media and sport, said the problem does need a global solution. >> it is, as the home secretary was saying, a global issue that needs a global solutions. the un has stated that since that by the end of 2022 there were 108 million people displaced . so we, million people displaced. so we, as you will know, as a government are working very carefully to make sure that we stop the boats coming over here through international solutions as the uks first drug consumption room, where users can take illegal drugs under medical supervision has been approved. >> the facility planned for glasgow's east end is backed by the scottish government as a new way to tackle the country's debilitating drugs deaths crisis. the £2.3 million pilot

will allow users to take their own illegal drugs in a hygienic environment, with medical staff on hand . now yellow weather on hand. now yellow weather warnings are in place for most of the uk from midday today. in fact, it went into place as storm agnes. the first storm of the season makes landfall in the united kingdom. the coast expected to be whipped by winds as high as 75 to 80. even miles an hour. the royal national lifeboat institution has issued a warning telling people to keep a warning telling people to keep a safe distance from water. and cliff edges as high waves pose a potential threat to life . so, potential threat to life. so, too, yellow rain warnings will also be in place in parts of scotland. the worst of the storm is expected to hit at around 9:00 tonight. whisky thought to be the oldest in the world, will be the oldest in the world, will be sold at auction for £10,000 per bottle while the tipple was found hidden behind the doors of

blair castle in scotland. and they found around 40 bottles believed to have been distilled almost 200 years ago. auction owners are saying the bottles will most likely have a more medicinal than whisky taste to the samples . if you can bear to the samples. if you can bear to open one at £10,000 a pop , open one at £10,000 a pop, you're with gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel . this is britain's news channel. >> thanks for that, polly . that >> thanks for that, polly. that last story about whisky. that's a drink i've never, ever been able to enjoy. i don't know if it's my unsophisticated palate, but i just it's not for me. and the first story there about that 15 year old little girl. can you imagine being those parents? you send your child off to school on the bus, you expect them. absolutely. to return home safely. what is the world coming to when you've got 17 year olds

accused of stabbing 15 year olds? we had didn't we, martin costa on our show on friday. do you remember his son? 16, was stabbed by a 17 year old. there's no winners in any of that. i don't know what we need to do to get through to kids to stop carrying knives. it will never end well. any ideas of how you stop this stuff? please get in touch. i'm all ears. but for now, i'm with you till seven. and alongside the columnist for now, i'm with you till seven. andmail gside the columnist for now, i'm with you till seven. andmail on de the columnist for now, i'm with you till seven. andmail on sunday,)lumnist for now, i'm with you till seven. andmail on sunday, peterist for the mail on sunday, peter hitchens joins me, as does the co—founder of novara media, hitchens joins me, as does the co—f0|bastani novara media, hitchens joins me, as does the co—f0|bastani . good| media, hitchens joins me, as does the co—f0|bastani . good evening, aaron bastani. good evening, gentlemen, to both of you . gentlemen, to both of you. aiden, you know the drill, don't you dewbs& co as well. you you, on dewbs& co as well. you can in touch with me with can get in touch with me with whatever your mind whatever is on your mind tonight. vaiews@gbnews.com is how get of me. or you how you get hold of me. or you can tweet me that's your can tweet me if that's your thing. ex me or whatever we call it these days at gb news. lots coming your way. i want to talk about the new oil field in just about the new oil field in just a second. i want to ask you about drug consumption about these drug consumption rooms. to that, rooms. what do you make to that, being to up basically being able to shoot up basically in supervised conditions? good idea. is it going stop drug

idea. is it going to stop drug addiction? is it going to help people encourage i people or encourage them? i don't you give your don't know. you give me your thoughts that. got that thoughts on that. we've got that coming more. but let's coming and lots more. but let's kick shall we, with the top kick off, shall we, with the top story. the uk's largest untapped oil been oil field, as you've just been heanng oil field, as you've just been hearing the headlines, it is hearing in the headlines, it is going be develop it. now, going to be develop it. now, this has caused a of this has caused a lot of controversy. a of controversy. there's a lot of people that are very angry about this, saying, you know, climate problems and all the rest of it. on the flip side, are other people arguing actually, it's for great the lots of for great the economy. lots of jobs and also, jobs will be created. and also, it's good to basically be self—sufficient when it comes to energy supply as opposed to being dependent on imports from countries that some might argue are not always the best places anyway. peter where are you on it? >> well, i don't see a problem if you find if you find oil which is exploitable as a reasonable price within your territory, then you do it. there are lots of arguments about what you do with the revenue and who gets revenue. but beyond gets the revenue. but beyond that, doesn't seem to me to that, it doesn't seem to me to be kind of difficulty. be any kind of difficulty. >> so you're problem from >> so you're not a problem from

peter aaron would peter side? aaron i would oppose it, what i would say is lots it, but what i would say is lots of the arguments in regards to this find being tapped revolve around security and that around energy security and that is completely misrepresents of how this works. >> rosebank oil field being >> rosebank oilfield being exploited will in no way help uk energy security or reduce the cost of energy if the average uk punter this is energy which will be available on a global market for a global price. be available on a global market for a global price . there will, for a global price. there will, of course, be taxes raised, which is a very valuable, important thing to say. but i do think in selling this kind of undertaking, politicians over state the case for drilling , do they? >> i think they probably do, yes. but it doesn't alter the fact that, as you as aaron rightly says, there will be tax revenue for this country . what revenue for this country. what this country does is the tax revenue is an interesting point. it's quite often argued, and i think with some strength that if we'd done what nonnay had done with original tax revenue with the original tax revenue from sea oil that we had from north sea oil that we had over that long period, instead of spending it all on basically on on helping make the make the

country more unemployed, then we would much off as a would be much better off as a country than we now. and country than we are now. and i would like to see some consideration that. no, consideration on that. but no, i think there is there's think i think there is there's an overstatement politicians an overstatement by politicians about security , which about energy security, which doesn't to me hold much doesn't seem to me to hold much water, that's probably being water, but that's probably being made to cover up for the fact that they're very, very that they're all very, very afraid the net zero people afraid of the net zero people who say, leave it who are going to say, leave it in the ground, which is by and large, their belief that large, the their belief that it's itself is based on it's that itself is based on this weird that the sky this weird fallacy that the sky above us divided that if above us is divided and that if britain behaves in this way, that all the other countries in the are that are the world that are that are pulling oil and coal and gas out of the ground, will all either follow our example or will be deeply by our minor deeply affected by our minor contribution keeping in contribution to keeping it in the ground, they won't be. contribution to keeping it in the and|nd, they won't be. contribution to keeping it in the and i d, they won't be. contribution to keeping it in the and i just they won't be. contribution to keeping it in the and i just wondery won't be. contribution to keeping it in the and i just wonder ifwon't be. contribution to keeping it in the and i just wonder if anyonee. >> and i just wonder if anyone at are you anywhere near at home, are you anywhere near shetland? think it's just west shetland? i think it's just west of there. you in of shetland there. are you in that how do you feel that area? how do you feel having this on your doorstep? because people, don't, because some people, they don't, you just showing you you know, i'm just showing you the actually. well the map actually. it's all well and kind of sitting in a

and good, kind of sitting in a remote distance saying, yeah, let's the drilling let's get the drilling commencing it's in your commencing. but if it's in your neighbourhood, backyard and neighbourhood, your backyard and you or not, just to you support it or not, just to give you a little bit of context here, they reckoned production will 2026 2027. in will begin 26 2026 2027. in terms of jobs , 1600 jobs perhaps terms of jobs, 1600 jobs perhaps at the peak with about 450 ongoing. when we talk about what we're going to do with this stuff once we've got it produced, do you think there is any merit to a suggestion that, you know what rather than creating this for export , why creating this for export, why don't we create this produce it for domestic use only? would you support that kind of thing? or is that market manipulation? is that anti—capital ism? >> well, you sound very sensible saying that, michelle. >> i'm a sensible individual and i would say it's better to keep it in the ground. >> i probably have quite fundamental disagreements with peter but peter around net zero, but i think that would be a much more interesting conversation because if you said, we import 50% if you said, look, we import 50% of gas every year, which we of our gas every year, which we do, obviously means

of our gas every year, which we do, we'renviously means of our gas every year, which we do, we're squsly means of our gas every year, which we do, we're so low means of our gas every year, which we do, we're so low at means of our gas every year, which we do, we're so low at theleans of our gas every year, which we do, we're so low at the behest that we're so low at the behest of volatile energy prices, as we saw last year, doesn't it make sense, given we are a massive producer of energy to, like you say, more of here. say, store much more of it here. that a sensible that would be a sensible conversation or indeed to say, well, look, this is going to raise money. we need raise lots of money. we need to exploit let's invest that exploit it and let's invest that into retrofitting homes to make them energy efficient re them more energy efficient or re research development research and development and post that post carbon technologies. that would very interesting . i would all be very interesting. i might agree with it, if might not agree with it, but if the government did that, i'd say, okay, that's not the worst thing what we thing to happen. but what we would i think instead is would have, i think instead is tax breaks for spivs handouts for business as allies, friends and cronies of the government, orjust and cronies of the government, or just fundamental the spending of it. and i think that to me is the real downside. let's say if there was 5 billion a year generated in tax from this, where would it go? i suspect the tories let's scrap tories would say, let's scrap inheritance so that is inheritance tax. so that is precisely why this kind of exploitation of resources is just completely off the table. >> is he being a bit cynical? do

you think? >> he's just being political? he doesn't like the idea that inheritance would inheritance tax would be scrapped. he he derides scrapped. and so he he derides it as a misuse of the money, it seems to me, to be a perfectly possible use of the money. i quite why you should take take money away from people when they die after they've paid tax on it. several times already. i'm not is not sure why this is a particularly just activity and if you can spare them from it then then all well and good. lots from from lots of other things from from social to the terrible social care to the terrible state of our infrastructure which needs to be dealt with, which needs to be dealt with, which we could spend money on. it would be nice to have the money. fatuous seems money. but what is fatuous seems to is to imagine by to me, is to imagine that by keeping it the ground, we keeping it in the ground, we would do anything but harm to ourselves. >> yeah, see, and i think that's very reasonable. do you not what you're saying? >> i think look , fundamentally, >> i think look, fundamentally, we're moving away from fossil fuels the next 20 to 30 fuels over the next 20 to 30 years in a range of areas. and either we're for prepared that or not. so right now, the big problem and this is just sort of indisputable storage. that's indisputable is storage. that's the big problem. we can generate

lots of electricity and ever cheaper from things cheaper rates from things like wind, solar . cheaper rates from things like wind, solar. but cheaper rates from things like wind, solar . but the wind, from solar. but the problem is storage. once that is overcome, then my worry , overcome, then my worry, michelle, is actually that countries uk the countries like the uk and the united states, are united states, which are beholden oil gas, will be a beholden to oil gas, will be a step behind places like china who yes, have lots of coal being burnt right now, but also massive global market leaders in renewable technology because they will have in 20, 30 years because of decisions like this is cheaper energy than us. i think a fundamental political flaw over the last 30, 40 years is a lack of long term planning when it comes to energy industry, industrial policy and really what's this country going to look like and what kind of living standards, not just will we have, but our children and our grandchildren in. and so like i say, if there was a tory politician while this was being exploited saying, you know what, we're going to spend this on r&d for economy, we're for a post—carbon economy, we're going this in going to invest this in infrastructure, peter says, infrastructure, like peter says, i more sympathetic i might be more sympathetic pick. peter says, the one pick. and peter says, on the one

hand, 80s, if we'd hand, in the 80s, if only we'd had a nonnegian sovereign wealth fund, you fund, which i agree with, you can't that position and can't maintain that position and then same time, oh, then say at the same time, oh, well, we're having a smaller bonanza now, but let's instead spend know , scrapping spend it on, you know, scrapping inheritance tax. >> i'm not really saying >> well, i'm not really saying that. saying that you that. i'm just saying that you picked as picked on inheritance tax as a thing. and for political reasons, have thought reasons, i wouldn't have thought that's it's going to go that's how it's going to go anyway. be more anyway. i think probably be more expensive of expensive to get rid of inheritance tax than that. but there are some illusions here among the net zero people and one the idea that imposing net zero on our economy isn't to going be quite bad for people's standards of living for the for how cold they are in the winter, for how expensive life is for and employment, because it will be the other this wonderful thing. well, if only could thing. well, if only we could solve of electricity solve the problem of electricity storage, everything will be storage, then everything will be right. like, only we right. it's like, if only we could problem of could solve the problem of nuclear which nuclear fusion, which people have away now have been bashing away at now for always for decades. and it's always just edge of being solved just on the edge of being solved and never is. it's almost like saying if only we could solve the perpetual motion, the problem of perpetual motion, we worry about

we wouldn't have to worry about anything. trouble these anything. the trouble is, these are major, really major scientific problems which have not and we delude not been solved. and we delude ourselves. instance, was ourselves. for instance, i was in netherlands the other day in the netherlands the other day and i the joy of rushing and i had the joy of rushing past on an electric train, a coal fired power station, which was certainly producing was almost certainly producing power to charge electric cars in this country because we can't do it ourselves, because our own power grid is now so, so wind dependent that we have to constantly suck power in from countries on the continent to keep the place going. and the more wind dependent we are and the say, electric cars we the more, say, electric cars we have, the more dependent we are on electricity from on imported electricity from places like netherlands and places like the netherlands and also french nuclear also the french nuclear electricity, which environmental lists disapprove well, i'm pro—nuclear. >> don't worry, peter. good for you. on that. well you. we agree on that. well there you go. >> we end on a point of agreement. what do you make to it? fields, yes or no? it? all oil fields, yes or no? do support or are you do you support them or are you on other side saying, whoa on the other side saying, whoa there, it's about the there, tiger, it's all about the climate. pack it in and leave it on the ground. your thoughts on all that. i want to talk to

all of that. i want to talk to you. talk about digging the you. talk about digging up the land again, the row land to that. again, the row continue northern continue this time. the northern leaders together leaders coming together and giving to the giving very harsh words to the government if they dare to try and stop the northern leg of it. what do you what do you think? are we failing the northerners or

>> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> hi there. i'm michelle dewberry. i'm with you till 7:00 tonight. we've just been talking about oil drill for oil in this country. would you support that or not? get in touch. vaiews@gbnews.com is how you reach me tonight. i'm with you till seven. peter hitchens and our ambassador arnie alongside me till then. now let's talk the north, shall we? because a collective of prominent northern leaders have been speaking out today. i want to play you, andy benn, and perhaps the most prominent. let's to what prominent. let's listen to what he's saying. it's all about potentially scrapping thing. the northern element of the hs2 .

northern element of the hs2. >> if they pull the plug , they >> if they pull the plug, they are kind of ripping the heart out of the economic development plan for greater manchester and parts of the north. so all opfions parts of the north. so all options would absolutely be on the table . and i go back to it. the table. and i go back to it. i've written to the prime minister. could be legal action then, but not to consult us, not even to let us kind of put the case. >> that's why i wonder, you might get a legal case because there's no consultation where all would definitely be all options would definitely be on table. on would be on the table. >> you know, some of you are saying, michelle, on your screen, it said three. >> well, yeah, what >> well, yeah, because what i want to ponder tonight is specifically that northern question is question, because there is another to hs2, which another element to hs2, which people do sometimes call hs3, which is it gets called a few different things, basically northern powerhouse rail, for example. essence of it example. but the essence of it is connecting the key northern cities. now. andy burnham there speaking very passionately aaron. and you know, the suggestion is based xl bully westminster are almost dictating to the north what is and isn't to the north what is and isn't

to going happen. this is quite a lot of speculation at the moment whether or not they were going to scrap this manchester leg, which would very bold move, which would be a very bold move, by way, because of course, by the way, because of course, the going to be in the conference is going to be in manchester, the tory conference imminently. but anyway, it imminently. but anyway, when it comes connecting imminently. but anyway, when it corr north, connecting imminently. but anyway, when it corr north, do connecting imminently. but anyway, when it corrnorth, do you connecting imminently. but anyway, when it corr north, do you think|necting imminently. but anyway, when it corr north, do you think there'sj the north, do you think there's an appetite for from an appetite for that from westminster help facilitate an appetite for that from wesior nster help facilitate an appetite for that from wesior not? help facilitate that or not? >> i think of this makes >> i think none of this makes any sense whatsoever. so you've had, talk of had, for instance, the talk of free amongst conservative free ports amongst conservative ministers, from ministers, particularly from rishi sunak, when he was chancellor they're chancellor so what they're seemingly proposing there for is a free port in liverpool . you a free port in liverpool. you have this wonderful new piece of infrastructure with lower labour regulation and standards, which i don't agree with, but that's their that's their agenda. they have a majority and you get your goods there and then all of a sudden the train networks in order to get it to other parts of country is going to be of the country is going to be second rate. think what second rate. and i think what your viewers and listeners have to think about is someone's to think about is if someone's an investor they're looking an investor and they're looking at or leeds or at liverpool or leeds or manchester, where are those cities more attractive to invest in than bilbao? leon in

marseille, places with high speed rail, very good labour markets, very smart, talented people willing to work hard. and i think that question of transfer port and high speed rail or just rail in particular connections is a huge one. and i think i really am very sympathetic to what andrea andrew, andy burnham and andrew burnham. yeah. andy burnham is saying because without this, manchester cannot be a premier league european city, which is what he wants. it to be. it's going to really struggle , like going to really struggle, like i said, compete with places said, to compete with places like or milan or bilbao like china in or milan or bilbao . understand why he's . so i can understand why he's so angry. i don't think courts are the way to go. i think we need to build a political consensus in this country across all parties about the to all parties about the need to build precisely this infrastructure. >> yeah, we touched this >> yeah, we touched upon this very a days as very briefly a few days ago as well. and one of my panellists was pointing out exactly my thoughts, which is if indeed these politicians are so passionate the north, why passionate about the north, why did all of the commencement of this hs2 start in the south? why was there so much focus on the

london and the southern elements ? why wasn't all of these projects start sited literally top down, literally north down? and by the way, there'll be loads of people getting in touch saying stop calling places like holland, manchester, north holland, manchester, the north michelle you michelle because a lot of you that the north, that is that is not the north, that is the midlands. i hear you. but what you to this? what do you make to this? >> i'm just completely >> oh, i'm just completely puzzled to why it should be puzzled as to why it should be high a form of high speed rail, a form of transport this country simply does need to look at a map. does not need to look at a map. the great britain , in terms of the great britain, in terms of population and square mileage is much, much smaller than france, where high speed rail has been reasonably successful, or spain or germany and its distances are much shorter. what this country needs and has not had since the government smashed it up in the 1960s is a decent low speed, medium speed rail system connecting everywhere in the country , up in the way that in country, up in the way that in the way that it used to be and ought to be ideal. in fact, rail transport is ideal for our very, very tight, narrow countryside

and are very close together cities and are are highly developed country and there's no point in trying to make trains run at 220, 240 miles an hour, which is, by the way, an immensely expensive part of the project, digging the enormous tunnels necessary, making the making the levels able , able to making the levels able, able to cope with it. it's a huge increase in spending. what we needis increase in spending. what we need is to restore what i call low speed one, that's to say a proper railway system connecting everywhere which this country has a simple point rail has not got a simple point rail where you whether you just believe in the environment, is a good thing because you think the country should be more beautiful and less smelly and less dirty, or whether you believe what erin believes, there's no question at all railways an immense all that railways are an immense superior of transport to superior form of transport to road not least of the road, not least because of the hugely reduced friction which they have , which enables to they have, which enables them to be more efficient and be so much more efficient and the way in which they can use electricity any source to the way in which they can use ele(them. any source to the way in which they can use ele(them. so any source to the way in which they can use ele(them. so i'mny source to the way in which they can use ele(them. so i'm alliource to the way in which they can use ele(them. so i'm all in rce to the way in which they can use ele(them. so i'm all in favour run them. so i'm all in favour of building railways, but not high railways. are high speed railways. these are political projects. they deliberately high deliberately the super high speed trains are earthbound

aircraft that they ignore turn their backs on the towns they pass. their backs on the towns they pass . they only go to major, pass. they only go to major, major cities . they they don't major cities. they they don't serve most people . they carve up serve most people. they carve up the landscape and they and they are so incredibly expensive. my own railway line , the western own railway line, the western line to oxford. billions spent on electrifying it. the trains are now no faster than they were in 1987. and we talk about the expanding cost. >> and i think actually there's so many different variations of how much that cost is. it depends what you factor in and all the rest of it. but it was certainly supposed to be about, i don't know, say, 33 billion people are now saying it's around 100. upwards of that 100. now, lot of these costs now, a lot of these costs increase. people will say it's due to people almost protesting and saying, well, it's not coming from my town, not coming through my village. so then to peter's point, then you're having to do a lot more tunnelling tunnelling of tunnelling and tunnelling is, of course, lot more expensive course, a lot more expensive of perhaps undoubtedly perhaps so when undoubtedly it's fantastically digging

fantastically expensive digging tunnels. it valid tunnels. but then is it valid for people to say yes , i want for people to say yes, i want this connectivity? yes i want my cities to be joined up, but not near me . you're not digging up near me. you're not digging up that beautiful bit of kind of gardening i've got over there. you've got to go underneath. is that valid or should you do that? >> we have the ghost of a fantastic national rail system still there . mostly itjust still there. mostly it just needs to be reconnected in a few cases, there might be some demolition necessary. the things which in my view, which have been in my view, probably deliberately built to stop rebuilt the old stop it being rebuilt to the old great central line which ran up from right up through from marylebone right up through the the country. most the centre of the country. most of it's still there, waiting to be reconnected. we don't need all had railway all this stuff. we had a railway system by by system which was ripped up by by in 1963, which could be put back and we should put it back and don't need to go at these speeds. the distance between between london and birmingham is 120 miles. these just aren't these distances don't justify why high speed rail. >> final word. >> final word. >> i, i entirely agree with

peter's critique of beeching's axe and the mistakes of politicians in the 1960s. >> what i would say, however, is quickly, why are building quickly, why are we building high is because it high speed rail is because it does things. it does allow does two things. it does allow to us move more quickly between one and another. but it one city and another. but it also more capacity on also allows more capacity on existing the question also allows more capacity on exiifing the question also allows more capacity on exi if we're the question also allows more capacity on exi if we're to the question also allows more capacity on exi if we're to goinge question also allows more capacity on exi if we're to going build stion also allows more capacity on exi if we're to going build more is, if we're to going build more lines, they be fast or lines, should they be fast or slow? i think it makes sense for them to be fast. but there's probably interesting them to be fast. but there's probablground interesting them to be fast. but there's probablground interesipeter and middle ground between peter and i on this. >> well, there you go. let me know thoughts. you know your thoughts. are you a real user? do you want more rail? and if you do, do you want it faster? does it matter it to be faster? does it matter to you when it comes to the speed is it more just about speed or is it more just about the connectivity and capacity in your in touch. let me your mind? get in touch. let me know after break. i've got know after the break. i've got an interesting one for you. we're have, we're going to now have, it seems, ever drug seems, our first ever drug consumption room where people can in there legally be can go in there and legally be injecting with heroin injecting themselves with heroin for you support for example. do you support that? addicts that? will it help drug addicts or will it actually encourage them? you tell me that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers >> proud sponsors of weather on

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picks it up. yeah, she says no doubt there's a simple explanation when you're listening . listening. >> hello there. i'm michelle dewberry and i'm with you till 7:00 tonight. the columnist for the mail on sunday, peter hitchens, alongside me , as is hitchens, alongside me, as is the co—founder media, the co—founder of novara media, aaron bastani . now let's talk

aaron bastani. now let's talk drugs. scott rutland is to open the uk's first ever so—called drug consumer option room. this is all about basically apparently trying to minimise those drug deaths and keep people safe whilst using illegal drugs. i am just going to if i can, while i'm talking to you, bnng can, while i'm talking to you, bring a picture up of what these drug rooms would look like. they have been approved now by authorities in glasgow . it is authorities in glasgow. it is backed the scottish backed by the scottish government . but i've got to say government. but i've got to say it's quite a nice looking facility. you can see i'll now describe it if you're listening and you've nice and you go, you've got a nice reception you've got an reception area, you've got an interview room, you've got an aftercare room, you've got what they call a recover room, a room that they call enjoy ejecting. and then another console waiting room , peter hitchens , what do room, peter hitchens, what do you make to this? >> well, it's the deliberately condoning the breaking of the criminal law by the state. >> and this is what governments have been doing and the police have been doing and the police have been doing for a very long

time. the issue of drugs, they simply well, we're simply say, well, we're not enforcing our laws anymore and we know this. now there we know this. but now the there are as are other developments, such as the of drugs at the supposed testing of drugs at festivals, which are which which the police allow. and now this is the message it sends is quite simple , that the government has simple, that the government has no intention whatever of trying to interdict the use drugs by to interdict the use of drugs by people. it will concentrate on the fucile and proven in effectual attempt to interdict these supply of drugs which never works if you do nothing about demand. and the problem will worse. but what annoys will get worse. but what annoys me about this is the way that the situation is the current situation is depicted a regime of brutal depicted as a regime of brutal prohibition, where people who take illegal drugs are constantly persecuted by the police and their lives are made miseries by the law. this isn't the case. it hasn't been the case for decades in most of this country, including scotland, there has been effective decriminalisation of the use of drugs the reason for drugs and that is the reason for the catastrophe in scotland and indeedin the catastrophe in scotland and indeed in the rest of the country. the large numbers of

people taking these disastrous substances and ruining their lives, those of their families and those their neighbours. and those of their neighbours. and it won't anything other and it won't do anything other than when we first than continue when we first began to experience heroin in this back in the 1960s, this country back in the 1960s, hardly anybody used it. now, after 60 years of this kind of liberal policy, many, many thousands people it. what thousands of people use it. what do it will just do you expect? it will just continue do continue that process. do you support these rooms scotland support these rooms in scotland has a huge problem. >> glasgow in particular, but they have a huge problem and i think it is important to be open minded with regards to solutions. have solutions. when you have a problem scale. so problem on that scale. so i think scotland is very much the drug death capital of europe. i think problem is think it's its problem is basically per head basis, basically on a per head basis, four worse nonnay who four times worse than nonnay who are think with regards are second. i think with regards to peter there is to what peter said there is a conservative argument, say against decriminalisation of against the decriminalisation of cannabis. we are cannabis. you could say we are where we are. some people use it, people don't. most of where we are. some people use it, timepeople don't. most of where we are. some people use it, time andwle don't. most of where we are. some people use it, time and i) don't. most of where we are. some people use it, time and i) don"backst of the time and i don't back decriminalisation on that basis. i think it's very different with regards this in scotland regards to this in scotland because huge problem because there is a huge problem and small c conservative and so a small c conservative approach well , look, let's approach of, well, look, let's not do anything dramatic here.

doesn't wash because as i doesn't really wash because as i just mentioned in glasgow in particular, but scotland is a nation, is the drugs death capital of europe. >> i'm not saying let's not do anything dramatic. i'm saying let's start again enforcing the very severe criminal laws which are statute books of this are on the statute books of this country against the possession of i think in the of these drugs. i think in the case of class a, drugs, the maximum prison sentence for possession is ten years. and i doubt very much whether that sentence or anything remotely resembling has applied resembling has been applied anywhere united kingdom anywhere in the united kingdom for years. don't for the past 30 years. we don't do it . we for the past 30 years. we don't do it. we don't for the past 30 years. we don't do it . we don't enforce the law. do it. we don't enforce the law. as a result, more people take the drugs. if think that the drugs. if you think that fewer people will take drugs as a result of this policy, then i'm deluded. more i'm afraid you're deluded. more people and the people will take drugs and the tragedies which follow drug tragedies which follow from drug taking has taking will increase. this has been the history of the past six decades. sure . decades. yeah, sure. >> yeah. michelle, to >> yeah. sorry, michelle, to pinch your job for a moment. but here's the thing. obviously, something is something quite unique is happening in scotland, peter. >> been tried lots >> no, it's been tried in lots of other places. >> no, it's been tried in lots of (no, ' places. >> no, it's been tried in lots of (no, but|ces. >> no, it's been tried in lots of (no, but that's switzerland, >> no, but that's switzerland, for instance. but is

for instance. but this is precisely point. so precisely the point. so scotland, glasgow, dundee, have a and what a particular issue. and what you're the laws on you're saying about the laws on the statute book being the statute book not being applied, is the case for applied, that is the case for the of so there's the whole of the uk. so there's clearly quite unique clearly something quite unique happening relatively happening in scotland relatively unique so unique happening in scotland. so surely you're not just going to have a uniform sort approach have a uniform sort of approach to say, hang on, is to say, well, hang on, why is the as glasgow when it the same as glasgow when it comes from heroin? comes to death from heroin? because clearly so because it clearly isn't. so i would have thought you'd have a bit more of nuance new case. bit more of a nuance new case. >> take another example. in >> so take another example. in no in country is there no case in this country is there is a drought a result is there a drought as a result of excess of rain. in no case of an excess of rain. in no case in this country or anywhere else to two more die of drugs to two more people die of drugs because are easily because drugs are more easily available there's less available and there's less action discourage or action taken to discourage or prohibit or deter them from taking them. if you have a policy which fails to policy which which fails to deter, discourage and prohibit you get more drug takers you will get more drug takers and the reason for and whatever the reason is for the higher of deaths in the higher level of deaths in scotland, isn't the ferocious scotland, it isn't the ferocious enforcement law against enforcement of the law against possession of class a drugs because there no such because there is no such ferocious enforcement there ferocious enforcement and there has pretty much has not been within pretty much living . it's fantasy

living memory. so it's a fantasy to imagine that actually setting up a publicly funded and this is remember, this is this is from law abiding people publicly law abiding people a publicly funded centre where people can openly take illegal drugs in front of employees of the government that that is going to send a message saying don't take these drugs. we disapprove of this, and we think it's this, it's bad and we think it's wrong. not going to wrong. no, it is not going to send message. send that message. >> point is, and i am open to >> my point is, and i am open to it working. my point is they it not working. my point is they should try it because obviously the state of, well, should the state of, well, why should they the state of, well, why should the�* it's completely the state of, well, why should the�*it's completely and utterly >> it's completely and utterly unreasonable. >> it's completely and utterly unre.theiable. >> it's completely and utterly unre.the with what what with the with the with what what possible is there, possible connection is there, peter? unless it the peter? unless unless it were the case it is not, that there case which it is not, that there had been severe enforcement of the laws against drug possession in which now in scotland which this would now undermine past ten undermine for the past ten years, unless that had been the case, it possibly be case, how could it possibly be suggested weakening suggested that weakening the enforcement further was enforcement still further was going make drugs, make your going to make drugs, make your problem smaller? >> your argument also the question, could possibly question, how could it possibly long i wanted to ask long to. no, i, i wanted to ask a question, which is your point is that we have a problem with rising use of drugs in this

country over the last 50 to 60 years because because a lack years because because of a lack of of what is on the of application of what is on the statute by law enforcement, then why so much worse in why is it so much worse in glasgow if it's mono? cause i don't if the thing that is don't know if the thing that is causing don't know causing i absolutely don't know why the law. why application of the law. >> aaron i absolutely know >> aaron i absolutely don't know why much worse, but i do why it's so much worse, but i do know it's not so much worse know why it's not so much worse andits know why it's not so much worse and it's not much worse and it's not so much worse because law has been because the law has been enforced, it hasn't enforced, because it hasn't been. we can also do is been. what we can also do is point countries and the point to other countries and the experience civilised experience of other civilised democratic law, governance countries such as japan and south korea, where our enforcement drug enforcement of laws against drug possession accompanied possession has been accompanied by much lower drug use and this is something we do do not do is something we do we do not do in this country. we ignore this evidence. we have nothing to do with. pay attention to it. with. we pay no attention to it. we a parliamentary we just had a parliamentary committee. the home affairs committee, reporting on drugs in this despite fact this country, despite the fact that others wrote to them that i and others wrote to them and said, will you please look into this? they didn't even look. not interested into this? they didn't even look. therelot interested into this? they didn't even look. there is interested into this? they didn't even look. there is such'ested into this? they didn't even look. there is such asted into this? they didn't even look. there is such a huge because there is such a huge drug decriminalisation lobby in this wants this country that nobody wants to evidence which to know any evidence which suggests they suggests it's a mistake. they don't want know. and so the

don't want to know. and so the mistake continues. un prevented and this is another stage serial episode of this mistake . episode of this mistake. >> sandra has been in touch saying this will never stop drug use in scotland. i am a scot and i'm a retired nhs employee , she i'm a retired nhs employee, she says. 30 odd years ago they thought that issuing methadone would solve the drug problem. it was never a solution. in fact, actually, she says , people just actually, she says, people just use that as a free top up and they continued with their other drug use. what is the answer then ? sandra we're sitting here then? sandra we're sitting here pontificating , why is this drug pontificating, why is this drug use so much worse in places like glasgow? do you know the answer? do you know what it is in glasgow that is specifically turning ? also, it seems turning turning? also, it seems turning more people to drugs. just to give you a little bit of context as well, the rate of drug poisoning deaths in scotland was 2.7 times as high as the uk average . so, i mean, this is average. so, i mean, this is clearly an issue . and what we're clearly an issue. and what we're trying to debate is what is the solution to it? these drug

rooms, just to be absolutely clear, was saying, this clear, as aaron was saying, this is a pilot. they're going to is a pilot. so they're going to be this and looking to see be doing this and looking to see whether or not it does indeed make will i make any difference. will it? i don't you tell me after don't know. you tell me after the break. i've got one for you that i want to talk about. migrants in greece. are now migrants in greece. they are now going putting their going to be putting their so—called illegal to so—called illegal migrants to work. loads job work. we've got loads of job vacancies people vacancies here currently, people are hotels . are languishing in hotels. should getting them into should we be getting them into the ? you me .

hi there . dewbs& co me michelle hi there. dewbs& co me michelle dewberry tools seven columnist for the mail on sunday, peter hitchens alongside me, as is the co—founder of novara media. aaron bastani kenneth says here in the west country we'd be happy with a rail line and stations. how about levelling up us as well? steve says one thing i've never understood why don't we have double decker trains like what they do in holland ?

like what they do in holland? and that of course would increase capacity . see yet lots increase capacity. see yet lots of support in terms of opening up those tunnels in holland. there you go. well peter just answered your question. not enough. not very many tunnels in holland is no hills . lots of you holland is no hills. lots of you saying all of these people that are against the oil fields and the drilling, do they realise that so much of what they wear for example, is derived from things like oil on this drug things like oil on this drug thing ? jason says, what are you thing? jason says, what are you talking about? allowing people to take heroin? give me strength . jerry says they are now condoning the possession of illegal drugs to deborah says. i think it will help up. it could perhaps help take this off the street. what a sad world we live in, ian says. what about alcohol? that is one of the most horrible drugs there is. and booze plays a huge part in all sorts of crime. why is nobody focusing on that? lina says any society which legalises drug consumption is a failed society . we, gwilym i think that's how

you say your name. i have doubts about drug rooms. but my question is, why on earth is it so expensive into the millions? what is it? is it a five star drug den? you're asking tracey says, what about when one of these people dies because of what they're injecting? what then the government then? do we sue the government or interesting or what is interesting perspectives guys at perspectives from you guys at home? let's talk greece. they are put their are set to put their undocumented migrants to work on some massive infrastructure projects have there . they projects they have there. they reckon this is basically to reckon that this is basically to going tackle labour shortages and make productive people well out of the so—called illegal mine . that's their words, aaron. mine. that's their words, aaron. this is a conversation on that's to be had in this country. you've got god knows how many people now in hotels the cost there are about £8 million a day. those people can't work while they've been processed. i mean, you know, good luck getting with the getting processed with the backlogs it is. should backlogs the way it is. should they allowed to work in this country? >> my instinct says yes . the >> my instinct says yes. the example set by greece

example being set by greece here, though, give me pause here, though, does give me pause for concern. i think there should be working for the minimum wage maybe ten hours a week. there are, however , major week. there are, however, major downsides. if you had en mass, that's a bit random, why ten hours a week at minimum wage? >> well, you come up with that from well, let's say you have a small town and all of a sudden you have two 300 new workers arrive who are working 30, 40 hours that will have hours a week that will have a massive impact on the existing labour market and it will serve to push down. to push wages down. >> it's good that it >> so i think it's good that it keeps active. get to keeps them active. they get to earn some cash so they're not necessarily on necessarily so dependent on small handouts from the state. but i would worried but i would be worried about the downward compression on wages. so for in the example so for example, in the example of greece, they're looking to use them to build key infrastructure. i would be very angry if that kind of measure was adopted here and it was pushing down the wages of uk nationals who were day labourers or or whatever . so or electricians or whatever. so that would be my concern, pushing down wages of uk nationals. so i think try doing it a little bit would be a

sensible start , using them en sensible start, using them en masse for big infrastructure projects think that's projects. i think that's probably probably unwise. peter i wish, i thought it would make any difference either way. >> honestly, huge numbers of people i believe are already working illegally here probably came here saying that they were seeking asylum. our asylum system is so completely gummed up that it effectively doesn't really exist. it's just another gimmick idea. really exist. it's just another gimmick idea . it seems to me, gimmick idea. it seems to me, that has no has no future. we have completely failed in this country to cope with or make any sense of mass immigration. now, really , since the new labour era really, since the new labour era and every time it really comes up with a bright new idea, i think, well, how long will it take before that one goes down? the plumbing ? so i'm afraid i the plumbing? so i'm afraid i can't work up any enthusiasm for this tool. >> yeah, so we've got quite high numbers of vacancies this numbers of vacancies in this country. you've about country. you've got about a million you've got million vacancies, you've got 2.5, million in the uk 2.5, 8 million people in the uk that economically inactive that are economically inactive

due things like term due to things like long term sick. we spoke about that in a lot this is around the lot of this now is around the mental health situation . is mental health situation. is there a part of you that would be concerned , look, you know be concerned, look, you know what, you can get in this boat right, guys in france, listen up . you can get in this boat, you can get across the channel. and then when you get to the uk, you're going to get a four star hotel, an and you're going to be able to now go to work and earn even money. to yourself even more money. to top yourself up. part of you that up. is there a part of you that worries that hang a second. worries that hang on a second. when it comes to incentivise people, surely we people, because surely what we should do is should be trying to do is de—incentivize those crossings for reasons. would for a variety of reasons. would you worry that we're going to incentivise those crossings? >> the greeks >> well, that's what the greeks have and i think that's a have said, and i think that's a very and like very real possibility. and like i got two i say, you've got really two ways doing either you ways of doing this. either you pay ways of doing this. either you pay really decent wage, but pay a really decent wage, but that's going to incentivise them more you pay them more quite or you pay them a very low which going very low wage, which is going to compress of uk compress the wages of other uk based workers. like i say, based workers. so like i say, i think the middle ground is again, perhaps try it. i'm i'm sounding like the small c

conservative rather than conservative here rather than maybe it. but maybe peter perhaps try it. but i using it and adopting it i think using it and adopting it on scale that greece seems on the scale that greece seems to be doing seems like i say, unwise, particularly building an airport, key airport, you know, building key national in such national infrastructure in such a way. it's incredibly slapdash . i mean, it's not really something you'd associate with a european country. for european country. now, for instance, like kenya, instance, someone like kenya, the jomo kenyatta airport in nairobi was built by prison labour under the british, i believe, in the 50s and the 60s. it's very strange if all of a sudden a similar modus operandi . i'm not suggesting it's the same as prison labour, but a similar modus operandi was adopted to build infrastructure here in europe. i mean, this isn't this isn't how first world countries are meant to build infrastructure. so i'm very pessimistic about what they're doing. but i think having the right to work for a short amount of time think would probably of time i think would probably solve more problems than it creates. do you to creates. what do you think to that home? that at home? >> do you think that actually , >> do you think that actually, martin, he's got in touch saying, michel, what about why does work have to involve money?

et cetera. you're pondering the question about why can't we get them doing the things that the councils haven't got time for cutting hedges , litter picking cutting hedges, litter picking ditch digging. but i mean , you'd ditch digging. but i mean, you'd have to pay people to do that, surely, paul says , why don't we surely, paul says, why don't we get them to allow them to work , get them to allow them to work, but then take some of that money to pay towards their contribution and their upkeep? i'm not sure how that would work. who's this again? people are saying like jan , she's are saying like jan, she's saying the same thing . you could saying the same thing. you could actually get people to work and take their i mean, even as i'm saying it, it doesn't feel right. >> these things are all based on the assumption that we have some real control over the people who arrive here, which i don't think we do. i how many, for we do. i mean, how many, for instance, the people crossing the channel, we think or claim to many are coming to know how many are coming across, but how are just across, but how many are just arriving without being arriving without ever being counted. we have the counted. and then we have the enormous problem of vast legal migration, which has been going

on since the blair era , and huge on since the blair era, and huge numbers of people are in the country. and yet somehow or other, we don't seem to be able to our our labour shortage to solve our our labour shortage problems . it's to solve our our labour shortage problems. it's fascinating problems. it's a fascinating story which we could story and one which we could spend evening discussing. story and one which we could sperwhat evening discussing. story and one which we could sperwhat seemsig discussing. story and one which we could sperwhat seems to iiscussing. story and one which we could sperwhat seems to mersing. story and one which we could sperwhat seems to mers be. story and one which we could sperwhat seems to mers be the but what seems to me to be the case beyond doubt is that in all aspects of everywhere we aspects of it, everywhere we have completely failed to do anything sensible at all, and we've lost control of it. and this doesn't seem to me to be any way of getting back control of says. of it, les says. >> michel , of it, les says. >> michel, you of it, les says. >> michel , you already know. >> michel, you already know. >> michel, you already know. >> we all that people work >> we all know that people work in, for example, car washes in the black economy. you know, i'm always suspicious nail always suspicious about nail bars . or do you see those nail bars. or do you see those nail bars. or do you see those nail bars you get a lot of for example, vietnamese or whatever, nail bars, and they really do do very cheap prices compared to some of the other places i often find wondering about the find myself wondering about the people at work. there that by people at work. there is that by choice? they here by choice? choice? are they here by choice? what is going on there? >> what one of our most >> what about one of our most flourishing industries, the hydroponic cannabis farms, which which probably which dot this country? probably the part of

the most effective part of british agriculture. don't british agriculture. i don't imagine run or imagine they're legally run or necessarily run by people who have come here legally. there's huge amounts of stuff going on in this country which is simply unsafe, supervised. there >> i mean, i'm just listening to what you guys have got to say. this has really got a lot of you talking. a lot of you are saying. wallace said, michel, i've got the solution. you've just been talking hs2 not just been talking about hs2 not being a time and to budget. being at a time and to budget. well, could use certain well, you could use certain people them people coming in to get them working some people say working on that. some people say make them work for the benefits that they receive and them that they receive and make them work. the problem. work. but this is the problem. we give benefits out to we do give benefits out to people, don't we? in this country without them having to people, don't we? in this cotany�* without them having to people, don't we? in this cotany workout them having to people, don't we? in this cotany work ?|t them having to people, don't we? in this cotany work ? who's| having to people, don't we? in this cotany work ? who's this? ng to do any work? who's this? barbara? just straight down the line? no, they should not be able to work. this is unfair and infuriating. she says , to infuriating. she says, to suggest, look, that's all i have got time for. aaron bastani , got time for. aaron bastani, thank you very much for your company . peter hitchens, thank company. peter hitchens, thank you as well for yours. very importantly , thank you for importantly, thank you for watching and for listening tonight. i appreciate it, as

always. do not go anywhere, richard tice. up next, nana , the richard tice. up next, nana, the temperature's rising . temperature's rising. >> boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey with your latest gb news weather forecast provided by the met office . storm agnes is met office. storm agnes is continuing to provide some quite blustery, very strong winds . blustery, very strong winds. those winds really peaking throughout this evening through the irish sea. still potential for 65, 75 mile an hour winds along some very exposed coastal areas and over hills . so do areas and over hills. so do continue to take care it will be accompanied by some heavy pulses of northern of rain pushing across northern england into scotland, england up into scotland, generally elsewhere across northern ireland, wales, southern england it southern half of england, it will second will turn drier into the second half night and the winds half of the night and the winds will slowly begin to ease out. but there's enough breeze around to the air and to really mix up the air and that prevent temperatures that will prevent temperatures from too much all. from dropping too much at all. so a relatively start to so a relatively mild start to thursday the strongest thursday whilst the strongest winds will be easing tomorrow, it still fairly breezy it will still be a fairly breezy day for many of us. but once the

rain across the far north clears off, a chunk of us should off, a good chunk of us should see largely dry day still with see a largely dry day still with a amount of cloud around a fair amount of cloud around some bright intervals trying to push before push their way through before this spread this rain begins to spread its way from west. later on, way in from the west. later on, temperatures around temperatures generally around 17 to on friday, we start to to 19 c on friday, we start to see area of high pressure, see this area of high pressure, want build way in from want to build its way in from the south. so low pressure is still on in the north still clinging on in the north and continue to and that will continue to provide winds at provide some gusty winds at times of scotland times for parts of scotland continuing to bring some showers as but once the rain in as well. but once the rain in the does clear its the far southeast does clear its way a good amount way off on friday, a good amount of wales and southern of england, wales and southern half of northern ireland as well should see a fairly fine day with in the with some sunny intervals in the mixture we'll be, mixture as well. we'll be, though relatively changeable as we the weekend. we head into the weekend. some showers and longer spells of rain us

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and a very very good evening . and a very very good evening. >> good wednesday evening to all of you. well, it's farage. it's 7:00 on gb news. we've got an action packed, busy, busy show ahead. first of all, the fallout from suella braverman's speech yesterday. the question i'm asking has multiculturalism failed? the home secretary seems to think so. the second thing we're going to be looking at, should we use russian state cash to fund the defence of ukraine? and joining me in the studio to discuss that will be bill browder . that will be well worth browder. that will be well worth listening to. and then also a huge new oil field has been approved. the rosebank oil field in the north sea. good news or bad news? we'll be debating that with someone from just oil. and you will not want to miss an unbelievable what the farage moment. you will need a pen and paper show. but paper later in the show. but first up, the news with first up, it's the news with polly middlehurst. >> richard, thank you and good

evening to you. well, we