gb news, it's 3 pm. is patrick christie's. >> it's gb news now our firearms officers right to hand their weapons that make us all weapons in does that make us all less safe.7 do they have your full strong on full support, strong views on either side? we'll be talking about their about that after one of their colleagues was, of course, charged in other charged with murder in other news, live in news, we are also live in lampedusa white. lampedusa with mark white. >> and on the italian island >> and i'm on the italian island of lampedusa, more of lampedusa, where more than 11,000 in of lampedusa, where more than 11,0(over in of lampedusa, where more than 11,0(over week. in of lampedusa, where more than 11,0(over week. of in of lampedusa, where more than 11,0(over week. of those just over a week. many of those will northwestern will end up in northwestern france, the

france, aiming to cross to the united france, aiming to cross to the unithey indeed. that's >> they will indeed. and that's why i'm asking whether or not britain take britain should now only take women other britain should now only take womeiwe're other britain should now only take womeiwe're going other britain should now only take womeiwe're going to other britain should now only take womeiwe're going to be other britain should now only take womeiwe're going to be talking news, we're going to be talking about the people about this as well. the people of in they of portland are up in arms. they are being are against the barge being housed been housed there. and they've been caused being caused all kinds of names, being one been one of them. they've been speaking to our reporter jeff moody their moody to come out in their own defence moody to come out in their own defefare moody to come out in their own def> good afternoon. it's a minute past three. let's get you up to date with the headlines from the gb newsroom. the met police says enough firearms officers have

now returned to duty to be able to meet its counter—terrorism responsibilities without military help. a significant number of counter—terrorism firearms officers had stepped back after a colleague was charged with murder over the shooting of chris kaba in south london last year. shooting of chris kaba in south london last year . the army had london last year. the army had been put on standby by in the event of a terror alert, but scotland yard has confirmed it now has sufficient personnel . now has sufficient personnel. >> it's vital that that they have support, but they're also safeguards in place. now there's been a review announced by the home secretary. we don't know the details of that review yet . the details of that review yet. there's also that live prosecute in that court case. so i want to i want as a politician to be careful about how i comment on these matters as you would as you would appreciate. but we obviously make sure we obviously need to make sure we have procedures place which have procedures in place which commands the confidence of both the police officers and the communities they serve . communities they serve. >> the mayor of greater manchester says the north shouldn't have to pay for the government's mismanagement of

hs2. sunak is refusing to hs2. rishi sunak is refusing to guarantee the manchester leg will be completed with a decision expected to be announced before the tory party conference in the city next week. andy burnham says curtailing the project represents the opposite of levelling up. but the prime minister insists he's committed to the long term tory pledge . to the long term tory pledge. >> this kind of speculation that people are making is not right. i mean we've got spades in the ground, getting on and ground, we're getting on and delivering, across north delivering, but across the north what is what we're also doing is connecting towns and connecting up all the towns and cities in the north—east to west. that's a really important part of how we will create jobs, drive growth across the region, all part of our plans to level up freeports are another good example of whether that's example of that, whether that's in or elsewhere, in teesside or elsewhere, attracting investment , new attracting new investment, new businesses coming in. all good examples of the government levelling up. >> the home secretary call >> the home secretary will call for amongst western for unity amongst western leaders to combat the global migration crisis. suella braverman will tell an audience in washington other countries can learn from the uk's innovative attempts to tackle

illegal migrants. she's questioning whether legal frameworks designed more than 50 years ago are still fit for purpose. the home secretary has already expressed her personal desire to leave the european court of human rights, which she holds responsible for the failure of the rwanda scheme . failure of the rwanda scheme. i'm serial killer lucy letby is facing a retrial on the attempted murder of a girl known only as child k. the former nurse was jailed for life for murdering seven babies and attempting to kill six others at attempting to kill six others at a hospital in chester. between 2015 and 2016, jurors were unable to reach a verdict on six further counts of attempted murder. a provisional date has been set for june murder. a provisional date has been set forjune next murder. a provisional date has been set for june next year for a million nhs appointments have been cancelled since december because of strikes in england. last week's industrial action by junior doctors and consultants means the country will reach the milestone shown in figures set to be announced today. another double strike is scheduled for next week . the organisation's next week. the organisation's

deputy chief executive, saffron cordery , has labelled it as cordery, has labelled it as damaging and demoralising . damaging and demoralising. meanwhile almost 400,000 patients in england waited 24 hours or more in a&e last year. the royal college of emergency medicine is calling the situation a matter of national shame. shadow health secretary wes streeting says 24 hours in a&e is no longerjust a documentary. however, the department of health and social care claims that improvements are being made through the nhs recovery plan . in experts have recovery plan. in experts have warned the government that it won't meet its manifesto pledge to end homelessness by next year . the kerslake commission says there are chronic and unresolved issues in the housing system, with a crisis pushing more people onto the streets . the people onto the streets. the number of people sleeping rough last autumn was 25% higher than at the same time three years ago. government, though , ago. the government, though, says it's spending £2 billion to end sleeping for good and end rough sleeping for good and a space capsule carrying soil from the surface of an asteroid

has been recovered by nasa. the sample was collected by the osiris—rex spacecraft before making the 1.2 billion mile journey to the back to the earth before parachuting through the atmosphere and landing in the desert in utah . scientists hope desert in utah. scientists hope it will shed light on the formation of the solar system and the origin of life on earth . this is gb news on tv , on . this is gb news on tv, on digital radio, and on your smart speaken digital radio, and on your smart speaker, too. now it's back over to . patrick to. patrick >> i have massive sympathy for our brave counter—terror firearms officers who have handed their weapons in after a colleague was charged with murder. it's an incredibly strong statement, but given that it's an active case, that is about the only statement that can be made on the specific circumstances that led up to that murder charge. what i can say , though, is that i think say, though, is that i think this devastate this will have devastate consequences for our society and

our safety. one armed policing source told gb news, quote , source told gb news, quote, virtually everyone on armed response vehicles has asked for a period of reflection . and a period of reflection. and there were two cars out last night instead of 15. it'll be the same tonight. maybe armed officers from other forces have reportedly refused to cover even those we understand from the city of london police, as well as firearm arms instructors. and in fact , firearms instructors in fact, firearms instructors have handed their badges in as well. so training for new firearms officers may stop from next week. under the law, armed police officers have the right to discharge a firearm to make a lawful arrest, defend themselves from unlawful violence , and to from unlawful violence, and to protect others from harm if they have reasonable grounds for believing that there is an imminent danger to life . believing that there is an imminent danger to life. but believing that there is an imminent danger to life . but the imminent danger to life. but the european convention of human rights only allows the use of force , which is no more than force, which is no more than absolutely necessary . and that absolutely necessary. and that is the grey area that our incredibly brave firearms officers have to operate in. was

that split second decision you made under the most intense scenario imaginable ? quote, scenario imaginable? quote, absolutely necessary . me and all absolutely necessary. me and all of this, of course, is then analysed later on in the cold light of day, slowed down a bit like var in football if i was a firearms officer. now and a colleague had been charged with murder , i would hand my weapon murder, i would hand my weapon in. but i'm going to ask something of them. and i really do hope that this is taken in the right way. please please, please, please get back to work. please go back in. now, you've made your point and pick your guns up and carry on protecting the public because the overwhelming majority of us are incredibly grateful for what you do. cherish the role that you do. we cherish the role that you play do. we cherish the role that you play in keeping us safe and protected and we do support you. i understand that enough of you have already returned to work so that we don't need to draft in the that's latest, the army. that's the latest, apparently. clearly , a lot apparently. but clearly, a lot of you still downed weapons of you have still downed weapons . so the public not to blame . so the public are not to blame for charges being

for criminal charges being brought one your brought against one of your colleagues the way that colleagues or for the way that your management not your management may or may not treat to be treat you. we just want to be kept safe. and i can't sit here and dish it out to junior doctors and consultants who strike. and then people die in hospitals say that hospitals and not say that whilst every sympathy for whilst i have every sympathy for firearms officers, absolutely . i firearms officers, absolutely. i do think it's wrong that people may now die because there are almost none of you out there. is this not a green light for terrorists ? i'll just say it one terrorists? i'll just say it one more time to those heroes . i more time to those heroes. i completely understand what you're saying . i completely get you're saying. i completely get the point that you're making and most agree most people will probably agree with please, with it. but please, please, please pick your guns back up and take care of bad guys and take care of some bad guys for . us gbviews@gbnews.com. for. us gbviews@gbnews.com. strong views very much on either side of this. where are you at with it? i do want to hear from you. this is to you. this story is going to rumble on for days, possibly weeks and possibly months. actually. let's speak now to gb

news national reporter theo chikomba outside chikomba. he's outside new scotland for us for the scotland yard for us for the very latest on theo, what very latest on this. theo, what is latest there ? is the latest there? >> the military? yes well, a very good afternoon to you, patrick. it's been one of those stories which has been fast moving. understood over the moving. we understood over the weekend that a large number of counter—terrorism firearms fire officers had handed in their tickets , which is essentially tickets, which is essentially a licence which allows them to carry out their duties when it comes to firearms . but as you comes to firearms. but as you just alluded to just a few moments ago, they do have to make a decision in a split second. and what we do know is that last week a firearm officers, he was charged with murder over the fatal shooting of chris kaba in september 2022. and there have been questions today about whether there will be enough firearms officers. and of course, we did learn that the sas would be on hand to help police officers in the capital,

but they wouldn't have been on patrols essentially. they would have been there if they were needed, should there was a if there was an instance of a terrorist attack and of course, now we do understand this afternoon from the metropolitan police that there are enough firearms officers and they have returned to their armed duties for the metropolitan police to be able to meet its counter—terrorism responsibilities without military help . the force have military help. the force have confirmed this after noon. we have been speaking to the people in this area, particularly this is a busy part of london. of course , there's lots of tourists course, there's lots of tourists and many people who come from across the world and they are saying they do at large feel safe. there have been safe. but there have been slightly concerned about the reports not enough reports of not enough counter—terrorism officers on the streets. but even though now we do know that update that they are enough for now , the home are enough for now, the home secretary has launched a review into armed officers and of course supports them ,

course supports them, particularly those who have concerns about potentially ending up in the dock should they find themselves in a similar situation. but of course, there are still questions, though . how long will questions, though. how long will they have this amount of officers considering the numbers we've heard in the last couple of days? yeah, absolutely. >> theo , thank you very much. >> theo, thank you very much. theo chikomba there outside new scotland us. and he scotland yard for us. and he raises another great question to all which is that let's all of this, which is that let's just say now all our just say now that all of our existing firearms officers decide to go back work. okay, decide to go back to work. okay, brilliant . decide to go back to work. okay, brilliant. how decide to go back to work. okay, brilliant . how new recruits brilliant. how many new recruits are get if they are we going to get if they really that there a really think that there is a chance end chance that they're going to end up one for doing up in the dock one day for doing their job, then of course, the counter well, counter side to it is, well, nobody's law , are nobody's above the law, are they? now by norman they? i'm joined now by norman brennan, police brennan, who's a former police officer. is director officer. and is the director of the and order foundation. the law and order foundation. now, set up the protect now, he also set up the protect the protectors campaign. he's been incredibly vocal about this onune been incredibly vocal about this online and very , very grateful online and very, very grateful to have you on the show. norman i'm going to throw it over to you. really? and your you. really? and just get your initial , bearing in mind, initial views, bearing in mind, as you will understand, as i'm sure you will understand,

there an active case at play there is an active case at play here. so we do have to be a bit guarded about what we talk about, but it's concerning, i think, and think, for the ordinary man and woman so many woman on the street that so many firearms officers have decided to well hand their weapons in in firearms officers have decided tcway.. hand their weapons in in firearms officers have decided tcway. i'llnd their weapons in in firearms officers have decided tcway. i'll tell1eir weapons in in firearms officers have decided tcway. i'll tell you weapons in in firearms officers have decided tcway. i'll tell you what)ns in in firearms officers have decided tcway. i'll tell you what i'm n in a way. i'll tell you what i'm going to do, patrick. >> i'm going to throw it back at you and what i'm going to say is, you are a firearms police officer. you join the police service keep society safe. service to keep society safe. you've excelled as a young pc and want to be a firearm officer. you want to protect society . so you voluntarily go society. so you voluntarily go on and apply for the job they select the best of the best. you're given the best of the best protection training. and what you do is you then go out and you take on the most dangerous of criminals and on a particular occasion you face a situation where you honestly believe that your life or that of your colleague or the public is in imminent danger. and as a result, you have to make that

split second decision and you shoot someone , then shoot shoot someone, then shoot a terrorist and absolutely everything is fine. the whole world was watching it. everybody thinks you're a hero. shoot someone in a controversial situation . then suddenly it's situation. then suddenly it's a very lonely life and patrick, you be that police officer . you be that police officer. people shout for your they shout for your suspension. you're suspended by your bosses. they don't contact you. you're at home with your family for a yean home with your family for a year, 18 months. you're suspended . and then you have to suspended. and then you have to wait for that decision. it's like damacus sword. then you're told that you may or you will be facing a murder charge. that's another year. you will never be the same person again . your the same person again. your mental health will be broken and you will be broken. your family, your relationship may well break down. now, the caveat to that and let me tell you how not that

gungis and let me tell you how not that gung is the british police service, armed police service. they're isn't a country in the world that can match how resilient we are at shooting guns or discharging our weapons . this year, the police service attended 79,000 incidents where their firearm was required. they discharged their firearm on four occasions. you and i know and everyone else knows how dangerous the streets are in britain . if people are stabbing britain. if people are stabbing each other to death, they're shooting each other to death and guess who's called to deal with that ? it is police last that? it is the police last yean that? it is the police last year, patrick, to people were shot. the year before that one person was shot . so when i tell person was shot. so when i tell you, you put yourself in that police officer's position , that police officer's position, that officer may never return to work. and all he did i'm not talking about this situation. i'm being hypothetical or he or she did was discharge their firearm because they had an honest belief in their heart and vision that that person actually

was an ultimate danger to them or their colleagues or the public. you think about that, pat? no i hear that. >> i absolutely hear that. i would probably have my weapon in. and i think it's because if i volunteer to do a job that part of that job may well be that i have to pull the trigger in the line of duty in an incredibly intense situation . i incredibly intense situation. i would want cast iron guarantees. i wouldn't expect to be above the law. i would never expect to be above the law. i don't think anyone would . but but i would anyone would. but but i would expect in a close situation to be given the benefit of the doubt by my bosses and potentially by the authorities, etc. to is there a sense that that isn't happening ? let me that isn't happening? let me tell you what has changed in 2015. >> a chap called jermaine baker was in a vehicle trying to

spnng was in a vehicle trying to spring two very dangerous criminals that were in a prison van and that officer thought exactly the same of the scenario i've just given you that this man is armed most times police officers turn up. they have huge intelligence about how that particular person behaves, whether he's been involved in weapons and that particular officer made that split second decision. the particular person wasn't armed, although i understand . and an imitation gun understand. and an imitation gun or machine gun was found on the back seat . now, as a result of back seat. now, as a result of that, that was went to court or it certainly went to an inquest and it was a lawful killing. however, there after what the what the judge removed and what the law lords have removed is what is commonly known as honest belief. a police was always covered up until 2000 and think it was 2009 18. on the honest belief . and if that particular

belief. and if that particular officer had an honest belief, but it was later found out that it was a mistaken, honest belief that officer was protected and that officer was protected and thatis that officer was protected and that is what's caused this absolute chaos and why police officers saying, do you know what? now i don't have that protection anymore . i've got protection anymore. i've got a family, i've got a career , i've family, i've got a career, i've got a life. and i'm not going to throw it and that's throw it away. and that's why officers saying until we get officers are saying until we get that protection back, do you know else know what? let somebody else deal with it. let someone else take risk . we won't any further. >> so it's centres around the honest belief side of things, which i think most people would agree is something that should be there and will. we may be surprised to learn that that's gone. if it has, as you say, look, i'm going to ask you a question. i will be asking and have indeed asked, did different jobs, of course, but doctors , jobs, of course, but doctors, consultants, etcetera, when they go on strike, i always come and dish it out and go you dish it out and go look, you know, on no know, when you go on strike, no matter are, people will die conditions are, people will die as a result of that. and i just don't think that's kosher. so

i've about armed i've got to ask this about armed officers. what if there's a shooting a terror attack and shooting or a terror attack and we don't enough officers we don't have enough officers because they're strike? because they're on strike? ultimately, the ultimately, that will be the pubuc ultimately, that will be the public suffering, wouldn't it? and ? and is that fair? >> well, devil's advocate . no, >> well, devil's advocate. no, but i'm trying to give you what a police officer i was a police officer for 31 years. i was twice nearly murdered . and it's twice nearly murdered. and it's devastated my life. never been the same again. if had had a firearm that particular night, i may have able to save my may have been able to save my life. right . life. you're absolutely right. we're looking unique people we're looking at unique people and unfortunately, the criticism against is, i'm afraid, against police is, i'm afraid, as tiny as some people's views and i'm going put the cat and i'm going to put the cat amongst i'm not amongst the pigeon. i'm not talking let talking about this case. let me tell you why. i think some police charged and police officers are charged and it's they're good it's not because they're good evidence against them. it's often because there is a certain outcry in our communities. often because there is a certain outcry in our communities . and outcry in our communities. and what independent office of what the independent office of police corruption do and the crown prosecution they crown prosecution service, they dare not for it. if it's not sufficient evidence. what they do is they allow it to a jury and you know why they do that?

and i say this with the most utmost respect and experience. 45 years of law and order is because they fear public disorder on the streets. and if thatis disorder on the streets. and if that is the case, patrick, what a shame on our criminal justice system . and that is what the system. and that is what the british police service have to face. i'll leave you with face. and i'll leave you with this. i any of my colleagues risked our lives . and do you risked our lives. and do you know why we did that? we cared about the job. we cared about the community. to the community. we wanted to protect . and at times, we protect them. and at times, we risked lives . i protect them. and at times, we risked lives. i nearly protect them. and at times, we risked lives . i nearly lost risked our lives. i nearly lost mine twice. as i said , other mine twice. as i said, other officers we faced brutality officers had we faced brutality be ing stabbed, being shot and i tell you what, it breaks. some of us and police officers are not prepared to be broken without the proper support . but without the proper support. but that's all i've got to say. >> absolutely fair enough, >> it's absolutely fair enough, norman. appreciate norman. i really appreciate you coming on. i really appreciate you to go into you taking the time to go into so detail and being so much detail and being so upfront it it's upfront about it all. it's norman there, a norman brennan there, who's a former the former police officer and is the director law and order director of the law and order foundation. up the foundation. he also set up the protect protectors campaign protect the protectors campaign . others like it,

. that story and others like it, i think is going to rumble on this will have reaching this will have far reaching consequences for society for and our security. make sure you get in touch with your views. gb views rugby news.com. more on that story a little bit later on in the show . and you can get in the show. and you can get lots more right now on our website it's the website gbnews.com. it's the fastest growing national news site country . it's got site in the country. it's got the big opinion site in the country. it's got the of big opinion site in the country. it's got the of latest] opinion site in the country. it's got the of latest breaking site in the country. it's got the but latest breaking site in the country. it's got the but 11,000:est breaking site in the country. it's got the but 11,000 migrantsing site in the country. it's got the but 11,000 migrants have news. but 11,000 migrants have arrived on an italian island from north africa in the last week. our reporter mark white is in lampedusa on the scene on the case for us. he's having a look at the chaos for himself and we'll bring a bit of that to you. patrick christys gb news is britain's news .

sunday mornings from 9.30 on. gb news. >> it's 3:25. you're watching or listening to me patrick christys on gb news in a few moments time, i'll bring you a special report from portland, which is a town divided by arguments over whether should be whether migrants should be housed bibby stockholm housed on the bibby stockholm barge. home secretary suella braverman is set to call on western leaders, though , to western leaders, though, to collaborate tackle the global collaborate to tackle the global migrant crisis. it comes as the situation in continental europe becomes desperate, becomes increasingly desperate, with more than 11,000 north african migrants arriving or migrants arriving from north africa , really, it should say on africa, really, it should say on lampedusa . over the past ten lampedusa. over the past ten days, our home and security editor mark white, is in lampedusa for us right now. to

get a first hand look at this migrant chaos on the ground . migrant chaos on the ground. mark, what are you seeing and heanng mark, what are you seeing and hearing ? heanng? >> well, we're at the entrance to the port in lampedusa . you to the port in lampedusa. you can see the mediterranean behind me there. and actually we've got what are called the mistral winds, patrick, that are really quite significant out in the mediterranean there. and they are stopping most of these boats from coming towards lampedusa . from coming towards lampedusa. so some respite for the people of this island who've seen more than 11,000 migrants here over over the past week. and as we just reveal all the shot here, we can show you one of the migrant boats that came so close to getting into the harbour, but actually ran aground here on the rocks just out at the entrance to the port itself. now, this is a wooden migrant boat. we're told that most of the wooden migrant boats come from libya .

migrant boats come from libya. if we look inside the boat itself , you can see some of the itself, you can see some of the makeshift life jackets that they've got. they're just basic tyre inner tubes . they've got. they're just basic tyre inner tubes. i mean, this one's still got its air in it. so it just tells you that this boat ran aground really within recent weeks. but this out in the mediterranean, if this boat gets into difficulties and you're thrown into the water, it is it might be some good, but it's certainly not as good as a life jacket. let's take a round look around the other side of this boat now because you can see actually from this side just the damage that was caused to this boat as it smashed against the rocks at the entrance to the port itself here, a massive hole in the side of the boat. you can see through there probably to where the engine is, the engine that helped power that boat out across 200 plus miles from north

africa to lampedusa itself. and some of the life jackets and makeshift life jackets in there. and of course, just hanging from the side. i mean, it's always almost as if they've been planted there. but i can assure you that they've not they're just hanging out through the gapsin just hanging out through the gaps in the side of this boat itself . but an absolute wreck of itself. but an absolute wreck of a boat now smashed up, itself. but an absolute wreck of a boat now smashed up , never a boat now smashed up, never quite made it to the harbour, but obviously those that were on board this vessel were picked up by the italian coastguard and the ngos that work out here and taken to the main migrant camp just about a mile or two down the road . the road. >> mark what's that migrant camp like? are they detained within it? are they allowed to walk around lampedusa? and also as well, what are the locals like about all of this . about all of this. >> well, they're not really allowed to roam around the main

town in lampedusa , but they were town in lampedusa, but they were doing that when we had many thousands that were landing here because that camp, just like the island itself , because that camp, just like the island itself, was overwhelmed. we . see 11,000 came in the space we. see 11,000 came in the space of about a week or so now to lampedusa. at one point, the migrant camp, which is meant to hold no more than 400 people at a time , had 7000 in it at one a time, had 7000 in it at one point, according to the red cross official i spoke to a little earlier this afternoon, she said that she and her colleagues really struggled to care for those that were there . care for those that were there. there were scenes of disorder within the camp and we saw actually many of the migrants that were in the camp scaling the perimeter walls , going off the perimeter walls, going off down into lampard's musa, into the town itself , and down into lampard's musa, into the town itself, and wandering about the town . lots of police about the town. lots of police on the island because although we've got these mistral winds at

the moment , they are due to die the moment, they are due to die down by wednesday day. and just like we see in the channel so often, patrick, we know that when the winds die down, the boats then start coming again. >> and mark just just quickly, because we'll be returning to you in the next hour. but you mentioned earlier on there's a good chance that these mostly men are heading to france with a view of coming to britain . i view of coming to britain. i mean, is that is that the case? is the italian government really going to fly them off this island and plonk them in europe so they make that journey ? so they can make that journey? >> well, yeah , there are going >> well, yeah, there are going to be taken to europe. i mean, there's none of them as far as we are aware, that have been returned to tunisia, libya or wherever . other parts of north wherever. other parts of north africa they've come from. so they are being taken from here by ferry , about 400 a day when by ferry, about 400 a day when the ferries are operating. 400 on each ferry trip into to italy

proper . and on each ferry trip into to italy proper. and then from there , proper. and then from there, where they are meant to be disseminated throughout the european union. but we've got a row within the eu at the moment where france and germany are refusing to take italian originated migrants because they say the italian government is not being reciprocal in taking its share of other migrants who are coming into europe. so that's a row. but we know historically that all of those coming into southern europe, the vast majority, will try to head north to the more affluent countries in northern europe , countries in northern europe, and a proportion of those actually quite a significant proportion of those will head to the coast of north—west france with a view to getting to the uk. >> mark, excellent stuff . thank >> mark, excellent stuff. thank you very, very much. it's mark white there. he's on the ground in lampedusa for us, which is the kind of current epicentre of the kind of current epicentre of the migrant crisis. so i'll be interested to see when we go back to mark in the next hour where and also

where he pops up next. and also , i don't know about you, but i really do got his really do hope he's got his factor otherwise, really do hope he's got his factgoing otherwise, really do hope he's got his factgoing be otherwise, really do hope he's got his factgoing be othweeke, really do hope he's got his factgoing be othweek for it's going to be a long week for poor mark, more poor old mark, but loads more still we now and still to come as we now and 4:00, stockholm barge 4:00, the bibby stockholm barge is for now, but we will is empty for now, but we will find out why feelings are still running very, very high in portland. and i will be asking, is for say we are is it time for us to say we are only going to take women and children across the children who come across the channel? but right now your channel? but right now it's your headunes headlines with polly middlehurst i >> patrick thank you. the met police says enough firearms officers have returned to duty to be able to meet counter—terrorism response abilities without military help . a number of officers had stepped back after a colleague was charged with the murder over the shooting of chris kaba in south london last year. the shooting of chris kaba in south london last year . the south london last year. the mayor of greater manchester says the north shouldn't have to pay for the government's mismanagement of hs2. rishi sunakis mismanagement of hs2. rishi sunak is refusing to guarantee that the manchest leg will be completed with a decision expected to be announced before the tory party conference next

week and the home secretary will call for unity among western leaders to combat the global migration crisis . visiting the migration crisis. visiting the united states suella braverman will tell an audience in washington that other countries can learn from the uk's innovative attempts to tackle illegal migrants. she's questioning whether legal frameworks designed more than 50 years ago are still fit for purpose . those are the purpose. those are the headlines. more on all those stories by heading to our website . gbnews.com . direct website. gb news.com. direct bullion website. gbnews.com. direct bullion sponsors. >> the finance report on gb news for gold and silver investment . for gold and silver investment. and a quick snapshot of today's markets. >> the pound buying $1.2207 and ,1.1525. the price of gold is £1,574.94 an ounce. and the ftse

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of weather on. gb news. so the bibby stockholm barge is set to reopen to asylum seekers, possibly as early as this week after receiving the all clear from legionella bacteria . from legionella bacteria. >> our south—west of england. reporter jeff moody has been to portland and it's a really interesting kind of case study. this really because the community is tired, they're frustrated and as ever okay i don't know about you if you've raised any opposition to a migrant hotel in your town or whatever, people start calling you far right, don't they? they start saying , oh, you're a, start saying, oh, you're a, you're this, you're that, you're the other, all this name calling. and it's a little bit similar as well with the ulez stuff, it, if you're stuff, isn't it, if you're opposed to ulez, apparently. no, you're far right, which i find bizarre. the community bizarre. but yeah, the community has on each other. has been turning on each other. let's little look at let's just take a little look at another cruise ship docks in port and its passengers spilling out onto the streets to buy souvenirs . souvenirs. >> and this is what greets them when they arrive. a town that's

on its feet and marching on a town that's divided , a town town that's divided, a town that's angry . to rival protest that's angry. to rival protest groups. united in wanting the barge. gone. did divided in every other way possible . well, every other way possible. well, and they're turning on each other. dr. susan phoenix is from no to the barge . no to the barge. >> people were there doing their best for their community, they thought and suddenly they would get something really horrid written on to the facebook account that had no relation to anything or anybody. of anything or anybody. but of course, a good way course, it's a good way of shutting down arguments . so, oh, shutting down arguments. so, oh, you're a racist . oh, you're shutting down arguments. so, oh, you're a racist. oh, you're a. oh, you're this, that and the other. and people go, oh, oh, am i? and so they take a while to realise, no, they're so realise, no, they're not. so that bullying that local people are bullying each and they don't even each other and they don't even realise they're doing it, you know which is very sad . know, which is very sad. >> alex bailey headed up the no to the barge campaign. he's taken a step back because he says the online abuse has become unbearable , all deeply upsetting

i >> -- >> he it has affected me personally, emotionally , to be personally, emotionally, to be called things that . quite, quite called things that. quite, quite frankly, it's awful . frankly, it's awful. >> theresa churchill fears for her community. >> the division is growing deeper by the week . we're seeing deeper by the week. we're seeing different protests and groups coming into town and people being bused in there . then they being bused in there. then they disappear . being bused in there. then they disappear. go home, being bused in there. then they disappear . go home, away from disappear. go home, away from portland and leave the community even deeper. divided >> and that division is playing out on social media, cloning of people's facebook accounts , people's facebook accounts, malicious emails and texts. >> i'm really want to say i'm shocked and don't think there's another word for it . jeff. i am another word for it. jeff. i am shocked because why are people

behaving like this in a civilised society ? civilised society? >> we we're built for it. >> we we're not built for it. we're not built for the constant harassment, the constant, constant attacks on social media. >> gb news has repeatedly asked the stand up to racism campaign for comment. they have so far refused ofcom camera. they tell me i'm giving voice to racists. i'm only presenting one side of the story , but they won't tell the story, but they won't tell me their side. the story, but they won't tell me their side . the divisions, me their side. the divisions, the bitterness have been festering here for months and not a single migrant lives on the barge. the bibby stockholm at the centre of so much fear and hate remains empty. but that could change any day now . jeff could change any day now. jeff moody . gb news. moody. gb news. >> absolute classic, isn't it? absolute classic. are you you're a you're a. you're far right. you only tell one side of the story. all right. do you want to come on and give us your side? no. all well, there

no. okay all right. well, there you that's you go, then. anyway, that's that. yeah, massive that. but yeah, i have massive sympathy for anybody who's getting called names because they don't a they basically don't want a massive barge full people massive barge full of people rocking and rocking up in their area and potentially well. potentially ruining it as well. but to an update on a gb but now to an update on a gb news exclusive elusive. and a charity is being examined by the charity commission after it sent a bizarrely , you a delegation bizarrely, you won't believe this, but it is true to meet with taliban ministers in afghanistan over the summer . ministers in afghanistan over the summer. classic. ministers in afghanistan over the summer . classic. the the summer. classic. the regulatory probe comes after gb news investigates revealed that an nhs muslim chaplain working in south london had met with and praised senior taliban ministers whilst on a charity trip. yeah, i'm joining the studio right now for the latest with gb news investigates reporter charlie peters. charlie stellar peters. charlie more stellar work you exposing of work from you exposing all of this. latest? this. what is the latest? >> charity >> the latest the charity commission into commission are now looking into a into human a regulatory probe into human aid and advocacy, the charity that a delegation of to that sent a delegation of up to nine to kabul in nine sheikhs to kabul in afghanistan in july and august. >> earlier this year. >> earlier this year. >> they said it was just a fact finding mission that they were

there on a humanitaire trip to work out what was going on in kabul work out what was going on in kabul. gb news investigates kabul. but gb news investigates revealed that actually the ministers sorry, the sheikhs and the delegation had praised the ministers when they met with the foreign minister, amir khan muttaqi, who was of the muttaqi, who was head of the culture department before the us invaded in 2001. they they invaded in 2001. they said they were impressed it they were very impressed it they thought was thought that afghanistan was moving in the right direction and was very organised, and that it was very organised, understandably , when we raised understandably, when we raised this to the nhs , we had a lot of this to the nhs, we had a lot of concerns from some of our viewers we'd viewers and indeed people we'd spoken story, but spoken to about the story, but they offer us a comment they didn't offer us a comment at time. now it looks at the time. but now it looks that commission will that the charity commission will be to find what's that the charity commission will be going to find what's that the charity commission will be going on» find what's that the charity commission will be going on there what's that the charity commission will be going on there . what's been going on there. >> yeah, i rightly so. so >> yeah, i mean, rightly so. so as a result of your investigation bringing this to light, commission is light, the charity commission is now look at why now having a look at why somebody who works in nhs somebody who works in the nhs decided go and the decided to go and meet the taliban praise them. taliban and praise them. >> it's not a formal >> and it's not a formal investigation. the step investigation. it's the step before, them to before, but it allows them to make of regulatory make kind of a regulatory assessment and to have a further inquiry into what going on. inquiry into what was going on. and this isn't first time, and this isn't the first time,

in the watchdog has in fact, that the watchdog has intervened with this charity, in fact, that the watchdog has interveraid with this charity, in fact, that the watchdog has interveraid with advocacy. y, in fact, that the watchdog has interveraid with advocacy. it used human aid and advocacy. it used to just called human aid in to just be called human aid in 2013, there was an investigation and some of its funds were restricted . in 2019, were restricted. in 2019, they were not to send funds not allowed to send funds overseas after they were found to be working with group that to be working with a group that had money to people had sent some money to people unked had sent some money to people linked to al—qaeda. once they were informed of this by the police , that money stopped. were informed of this by the polso , that money stopped. were informed of this by the polso theyt money stopped. were informed of this by the polso they did)ney stopped. were informed of this by the polso they did)neyright3ed. were informed of this by the polso they did)ney right thing >> so they did the right thing when they were informed. >> is their third >> but now this is their third run the watchdog in the run in with the watchdog in the last ten years now. and this will be a very strange one, of course, because when people go will be a very strange one, of co ase, because when people go will be a very strange one, of co a hospitalrse when people go will be a very strange one, of co a hospital , e when people go will be a very strange one, of co a hospital , theyen people go will be a very strange one, of co a hospital , they don't)ple go will be a very strange one, of co a hospital , they don't expect to a hospital, they don't expect people who work there to have met the taliban, which of met with the taliban, which of course wasn't a fantastic thing on annual leave, took leave from his took leave from his job in the nhs to meet with the taliban and issue them praise. and of course , the taliban's record in course, the taliban's record in rule in the last two years is not fantastic. record and poverty of human poverty and all sorts of human rights abuses. >> mean, this idea that >> yeah. i mean, this idea that the a changed force the taliban is a changed force i think is just ridiculous personally. it's still it's still the taliban and, you know,

you and i have spoken in the past, about past, charlie, about a concerning undercurrents, i think, in this country how many people support the people appear to support the taliban, which i find remarkable, whether it's that you've got these kind of radical hate preachers that come over to the and again, you the country and again, you managed that managed to expose some of that and the concerning thing for me was was not that they over was was not that they were over here, which was bad enough. it was many wanted go was how many people wanted to go and them. was how many people wanted to go and think them. was how many people wanted to go and think the 1em. was how many people wanted to go and think the same concern is >> i think the same concern is being expressed here by many people to about being expressed here by many pe0|story to about being expressed here by many pe0|story . to about this story. >> and seniors within in >> and indeed, seniors within in saint george's, the hospital in tooting in south london, where suleiman ghani works, many spoke to anonymously , saying that to me anonymously, saying that they extremely concerned by they were extremely concerned by his the senior his presence and that the senior management not enough management had not done enough to interfere with the situation. >> look , charlie, thank >> yeah, look, charlie, thank you very charlie peters you very much. charlie peters there. investigates. you very much. charlie peters there.again, investigates. you very much. charlie peters there.again, i investigates. you very much. charlie peters there.again, i think stigates. you very much. charlie peters there.again, i think it gates. you very much. charlie peters there.again, i think it should yeah. again, i think it should be very concerning. the be very, very concerning. the sheer level of undercurrent of support for the taliban that there genuinely to be there genuinely appears to be in this not something this country. it's not something to laughed all. it is to be laughed at at all. it is very, serious . charlie, very, very serious. charlie, thank talking thank you. right. well talking

of things that definitely shouldn't be laughed it's shouldn't be laughed at, it's conference lib conference season and the lib dems their annual get dems are having their annual get together in bournemouth, aren't they ? but their leader , ed they? but has their leader, ed davey, got that sinking feeling ? 0h, davey, got that sinking feeling ? oh, there he goes into the dnnk ? oh, there he goes into the drink patrick christys here on gb by the way, gb news. oh by the way, apparently you're not really allowed the eu at allowed to talk about the eu at lib dem conference. that's a shame because we're going to britain's news. channel

>> welcome back. it's 347. you are watching or listening to me. patrick christys on gb news now at 4:00 we will debate whether so many counter—terrorism officers stepped officers should have stepped back duties after an back from armed duties after an armed policeman was charged with murder. big debate that let's murder. a big debate that let's head to bournemouth now, though, where the liberal are where the liberal democrats are meeting annual meeting for their annual conference eu is conference rejoining the eu is expected to be a key pledge from the party. they've even come up with a very special song about it, which we'll hear more about in a moment. but yesterday the liberal democrats made a splash as its leader was jokingly tipped into the sea whilst kayaking. well that sort of choppy waters does sir ed davey face when trying to topple the tories. but our deputy political editor tom harwood can tell us he's in bournemouth and he joins me now. tom, what's on the agenda at lib dem party conference? >> yeah , that's what i said. >> yeah, that's what i said. >> yeah, that's what i said. >> gosh. patrick so very much this of course is one of these party conference. is that actually mean something when it comes to policy for the party?

yes it's a bit of a democratic bunfight on the floor of the conference hall where at the moment the lib dems are debating whether or not to scrap national housing targets. that's an active debate. alive within the party. and it's honestly quite interesting to see various people , mps going at each other people, mps going at each other from within the same party in a pubuc from within the same party in a public debate like this. but of course, the party is not just about these debates that are happening on the floor. it's also about what is happening elsewhere. there been there elsewhere. there have been there have been photo as you have been photo ops as you alluded to there with ed davey getting a little bit wet, tipped into the water from his kayak by one of his prospective parliamentary candidates . but parliamentary candidates. but also, lots of stuff also, of course, lots of stuff going on in the evenings, not least the lib dem glee club , least the lib dem glee club, which i'm sure we might talk about . about in a moment. >> about that right >> let's talk about that right now. oh, no. oh, no. we've got to we've got to do the serious stuff first. where are they on the eu ? the eu? >> where are the liberal democrats on the eu? well, if you were to listen to layla moran at a fringe event, their

shadow foreign affairs spokes man, if you were to listen to her at a fringe event over the weekend and you'd have thought that lib wanted to that the lib dems wanted to rejoin the eu, you'd have thought that's their thought that that's their policy. listen to ed policy. but if you listen to ed davey to broad casters davey speaking to broad casters later on, you'd think , hang on, later on, you'd think, hang on, maybe that's not their policy at all. official line from the all. the official line from the liberal democrats seems to be we want the uk at the heart of europe . but then if you ask what europe. but then if you ask what does being at heart of does being at the heart of europe mean? does mean europe mean? does that mean being does mean being in the eu? does that mean joining the euro? they're a little reticent to answer. so i think strategic ambiguity is the line on the eu, not least because the lib dems have a new strategy going after lots of tory seats that means going after lots of brexit voting seats, particularly down in the south west of england. so a lot of ambiguity actually when it comes that policy, although comes to that policy, although if listen mps behind the if you listen to mps behind the scenes, if you listen to the fringe events where perhaps they're lipped and they're more loose lipped and not official party line , not on the official party line, rejoin of the game . rejoin is the name of the game. >> i'd hate that strategic

>> yeah, i'd hate that strategic ambiguity that another way of phrasing that may well be lies to the public and hope they like you and then do whatever you want. we go. talk to want. but there we go. talk to me lib dem club me about lib dem glee club because understand because i understand that they've rewritten the they've even rewritten the lyrics lions on a shirt lyrics to three lions on a shirt in order to make it, well, pro—eu . i don't know what's pro—eu. i don't know what's going on. this is one of the highlights of liberal democrat party conference every year the lib dem glee club, which yes, is a real group , rewrite the words a real group, rewrite the words to songs and they'll be performing them at the end of the conference. >> but yes, three lions is one of the star attractions. this yeah of the star attractions. this year. the lyrics have been to changed two gold stars on the flag for freedom still gleaming glory, flag for freedom still gleaming glory , years of peace keep us glory, years of peace keep us all campaigning doesn't quite right . i know that was then, but right. i know that was then, but we'll be there again. so turning perhaps a very patriotic english song into something far more european. but there's some more. there's an ode to liz truss in this in this songbook from the

lib dem glee club. they've reworded the words to let it be by the beatles. it goes like this when i find myself in times of trouble. graham brady comes to me pass me the dressing. let us be, let . us be, let. >> oh, yeah, i got. i got it. okay well, look, tom, it certainly sounds like you're having a great time. one more very quick one with you, tom. how people are bothered how many people are bothered to turn conference? turn up to lib dem conference? >> do you know what i was talking to someone who was a representative or actually, i won't say the group. i don't want to put put them in any sort of public position. but i was talking to someone who was involved in another conference involved in another conference in the same venue last year who was surprised that not so much of the conference venue was being used. as with this other conference, perhaps you'd think that a national political party would fill out every corridor and every nook and every cranny. not so , although i have to say not so, although i have to say the conference floor, the debating floor does seem fairly

alive. so swings and roundabouts i >> interesting stuff there. tom, thank you very much. and enjoy the club everything the glee club and everything that bournemouth has to offer. that tom harwood that is, of course, tom harwood there. political editor that is, of course, tom harwood th

now . how can i possibly inevitable review is underway now. how can i possibly , at this now. how can i possibly, at this time of day, make a joke about that bloke's tackle ? no, i can't that bloke's tackle? no, i can't . okay. all right. well, the army has been stood down after firearms officers have returned to met police counter terrorism duties. were they right to hand their weapons back in? that's when i come back. patrick christys gb news, britain's news . channel a brighter outlook with boxt solar are proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hi there. today's showers will ease during the rest of the day. clear spells expected overnight , but it will stay overnight, but it will stay breezy. however, not as windy as we're expecting things to turn dunng we're expecting things to turn during the middle of the week. this pressure this area of low pressure doesn't much over the doesn't look like much over the next day or so. storm agnes, but it soon deepens as it approaches the swathe of very the uk and a swathe of very strong winds, gales widely are

expected around the middle of the week. before that monday night, clear spells for most of us, still rather breezy in the west and the northwest , but most west and the northwest, but most places dry through the hours of darkness, the cloud thickening in the south and the west. by the end of the night, temperatures generally not far from average for the time of yeah from average for the time of year. looking low year. we're looking at the low double figures generally, but we start off tuesday with some showers getting going from the word go into the south and then the midlands east anglia and the midlands and east anglia and the midlands and east anglia and the south east. they do clear through morning rumble of through the morning rumble of thunder the thunder is possible as the showers in places showers turn livelier in places , the spell of persistent rain moves through northern ireland dunng moves through northern ireland during western during the morning into western scotland, showers scotland, clearing to showers later and for many there will be some sunny spells by the afternoon. in between the showers it's a blustery showers. but it's a blustery afternoon, making feel afternoon, making it feel on the cool quite warm in cool side. still quite warm in the nevertheless the southeast. nevertheless that's all out of the way. by the start wednesday . the start of wednesday. actually, wednesday off actually, wednesday starts off fine of fine for most of us. plenty of early sunshine , light winds early sunshine, light winds dunng early sunshine, light winds during morning, but storm during the morning, but storm agnes a swathe of very

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gb news. >> it's 4 pm. it's patrick christys. it's gb news. big debate coming your way. our firearms officers right hand firearms officers right to hand their of their weapons in after one of their weapons in after one of their charged their colleagues was charged with you their colleagues was charged witover you their colleagues was charged witover of you their colleagues was charged witover of should you their colleagues was charged witover of should they on over all of that? should they now to work to protect now get back to work to protect us? loads go us? the public loads to go out there debate your way

there big debate coming your way in just a i'm also going in just a tick. i'm also going to this story to be talking about this story very live in very much so. we are live in lampedusa, which is now the epicentre migrant epicentre of europe's migrant crisis. epicentre of europe's migrant crithousands young of thousands of young african men lampedusa men who've landed in lampedusa are they coming our is are they coming our way? is it time for britain to now say, we're to take women we're only going to take women and this we're only going to take women and for this we're only going to take women and for yes, this we're only going to take women and for yes, that's this one for you. yes, that's right. hs2. the rails, isn't one for you. yes, that's right. hsiwouldn't the rails, isn't one for you. yes, that's right. hsiwouldn't ite rails, isn't one for you. yes, that's right. hsiwouldn't it beails, isn't one for you. yes, that's right. hsiwouldn't it be cheaper: it? wouldn't it be cheaper to move as move manchester to birmingham as opposed train that can go to to get a train that can go to manchester? and what about all the had the people who've had things under compulsory purchase orders? giant orders? because this giant failed orders? because this giant fail> thank you. well, the top story today, the army which was on the on standby to help the metropolitan police been metropolitan police has been stood down. that's after a significant number of counter—terrorism firearm officers stepped back from their

dufies officers stepped back from their duties after a colleague was charged with the murder on the shooting of chris kaba in south london last year. the force saying enough officers have now returned to armed duties to meet their counter—terrorism responsibilities without military help , law and order military help, law and order foundation director norman brennan says the criminal justice system is broken. >> i'm not talking about this case. let me tell you why. i think some police officers are charged. it's not because there's good evidence against them. it's often because there is a certain outcry in our communities. and what the independent office of police corruption do and the crown prosecution service , they dare prosecution service, they dare not for it. if it's not sufficient evidence, what they do is they allow it to a jury. and do you know why they do that? and i say this with the most respect and most utmost respect and experience. 45 years of law and order is because they fear pubuc order is because they fear public disorder on the streets when brennan now the greater manchester mayor, says the north shouldn't have to pay for the government's missed management

of hs2 , rishi sunak is refusing of hs2, rishi sunak is refusing to guarantee that the manchester leg of the line will be completed , with a decision completed, with a decision expected to be announced before tory party conference next week. >> andy burnham, though, says curtailing the project represents the opposite of levelling up. but the prime minister insists he's committed to the long term tory pledge . to the long term tory pledge. >> this kind of speculation that people are making is not right. i mean we've got spades in the ground. we're getting on and delivering, but across the north what also doing what we're also doing is connecting all the towns and connecting up all the towns and cities in the north—east to west. that's a really important part of how we will create jobs, drive growth across the region, all part of our plans to level up freeports are another good example of that, whether that's in elsewhere , in teesside or elsewhere, attracting investment, attracting new investment, new businesses coming in, all good examples the government examples of the government levelling up. >> the home secretary will call for unity among western leaders to combat the global migration crisis, visiting the united states today, suella suella braverman will tell an audience

in washington that other countries may be able to learn from the uk's innovative attempts to tackle illegal migrants . she's questioning migrants. she's questioning whether legal framework is designed more than 50 years ago are still fit for purpose. she's expressed her personal desire to leave the european court of human rights, which she holds responsible for the failure of the rwanda scheme . the serial the rwanda scheme. the serial killer, lucy letby, is facing a retrial on the attempted murder of a girl known only as child k . the former nurse was jailed for life for murdering seven babies and attempting to kill six others at a hospital in chester . between 2015 and 2016, chester. between 2015 and 2016, jurors were unable to reach a verdict on six further counts of attempted murder . a provisional attempted murder. a provisional date has then been set forward now for june next year , 1 now for june next year, 1 million nhs appointments have been cancelled since december because of strikes in england last week's industrial action by junior doctors and consultants

means the country will reach the milestone in figures set to be announced today . another double announced today. another double strike scheduled for next week. the organisations deputy chief executive saffron cordery has labelled it damaging and demoralising . meanwhile, almost demoralising. meanwhile, almost 400,000 patients in england waited 24 hours or more in a&e . waited 24 hours or more in a&e. last year. the royal college of emergency medicine is calling the situation a matter of national shame . shadow health national shame. shadow health secretary wes streeting says 24 hours in a&e is no longerjust a documentary, but the department of health and social care claims improvements are being made through nhs recovery plan. through the nhs recovery plan. expert are warning the government won't meet its manifesto pledge to end homelessness by next year . the homelessness by next year. the kerslake commission says there are chronic and unresolved issues in the housing system, with a crisis pushing more people onto the streets . the people onto the streets. the number of people sleeping rough last autumn was 25% higher than the same period three years ago. the government says it is

spending £2 billion to end rough sleeping for good . a spacex sleeping for good. a spacex capsule carrying soil from the surface of an asteroid has been recovered by nasa. the sample was collected by rac rex spacecraft before making . the spacecraft before making. the 1.2 billion mile journey to be parachute ated through the earth's atmosphere and landing in the desert in utah . earth's atmosphere and landing in the desert in utah. in the united states, scientists hope it will shed light on the formation of the solar system and perhaps the origin of life on earth. you're with gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio, and now on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel . on news channel. on >> i'm going to start this hour with the debate on the most controversial story of the day. it's our top story this hour. it's our top story this hour. it's the uk's largest police force has stood down. a plan to use soldiers to cover firearms

dufiesin use soldiers to cover firearms duties in the capital to the met. police says enough armed officers have now returned to cover counter terrorism duties. now, dozens of met officers, i mean, apparently potentially hundreds, actually had handed their weapons in after one of their weapons in after one of their colleagues was charged with murder last week, armed officers from other forces had refused to cover their duties , refused to cover their duties, as did training officers. and it left the met facing a major crisis in tackling any firearms offences. deeply controversial story. this whether or not you support them. do you think that was right ? support them. do you think that was right? even if you do support them , should more of support them, should more of them now go back to work to keep us safe? it's not the public. maybe have suffer maybe you should have to suffer as all of this. as a result of all of this. there course, also the there is, of course, also the very real fact that everybody's equal before the law. okay so sometimes people have to take the consequences of their actions, even if that's unfortunate . strong views either unfortunate. strong views either side of this gb views the gbnews.com or go to the inbox shortly. but let's speak now to former met police officer leroy logan, who is the former

chairman black police chairman of the black police association , and stephen association, and stephen roberts, who's the former director professional director of professional standards the met. of standards at the met. both of you, very much. standards at the met. both of ydon't very much. standards at the met. both of ydon't to very much. standards at the met. both of ydon't to veyoumch. standards at the met. both of ydon't to veyou this, i don't need to remind you this, but anyway . but i'm going to do it anyway. the circumstances around the exact circumstances around this story involve an active court case. so we'll try and steer clear of too many specifics. if we can. but leroy, i'll start you . the i'll start with you. the overarching sentiment of whether or not these armed officers should just get back to work to protect the public. where are you that? well let me first you on that? well let me first say i welcome the officers going back to work , because i know back to work, because i know that they're doing a very tough job in very challenging circumstances. >> i was never firearms officer, but i've had to deploy them on various settings in hackney and other boroughs in central london. >> so, i mean, let me first put that loud and clear, but i think this issue reminds me of what happenedin this issue reminds me of what happened in 2011 when mark duggan was shot by met officers

, and there was this suggestion that if the officer went to court, they would be a mass returning of their firearms. so this is something that they've done before, and that's what will create a perception that the police are self—serving , the police are self—serving, firearms officers are being unprofessional , willing to put unprofessional, willing to put their loyalty to their colleagues than serving the needs of the public. and the last thing we want is uniform military officers patrolling the streets of london like . the 70s, streets of london like. the 70s, 80s and 90 of northern ireland. and we can't we can't afford that. so i would like to think that. so i would like to think that they had their points put across. let them put their reviews through. the commissioner and the home secretary and hopefully they'll deal with the issues they have concerns about all right. >> i'll come back to you on

that. so the stance, they're just kind of summarising is you've made your point. get back to work, basically. stephen roberts , i'll bring you in now roberts, i'll bring you in now is the former director the is the former director of the professional standards at the met. they should met. do you think they should all back to work or all be going back to work now or where this ? where are you on this? >> well, i was a former firearms officer for about 15 years, so i know exactly the way that these officers are feeling now. >> i was lucky . officers are feeling now. >> i was lucky. guns officers are feeling now. >> i was lucky . guns weren't officers are feeling now. >> i was lucky. guns weren't as prevalent then as they are now. criminals weren't as willing to actually use guns as much then as they are now. but i personally was involved in more than one situation where i came within a whisker of firing my weapon and i would have been shooting at somebody who was actually, as it turned out, innocent . but actually, as it turned out, innocent. but i think what this highlights is not just the strength feeling of those strength of feeling of those armed officers, but the urgent, very urgent need for a completely overhaul, a complete overhaul of the legal framework

within which they work. if we as a society, what want police officers to protect us from armed criminals? we have to accept that they will be held to accept that they will be held to a slightly different standard than ordinary members of the pubuc than ordinary members of the public right up until now, that's not been the case. >> right? so let's just drill down on that with you then. so what would that mean? stephen to be held to a slightly different standard if you're a firearms officer, it would mean that as now every case should be properly investigated independently , ideally, and independently, ideally, and that's what happens now . that's what happens now. >> it would mean that officers who fired their weapons and indeed the chain of command that ran a firearms situation were personally accountable for the quality of their decisions . but quality of their decisions. but i think what it would mean would be a requirement for a level of gross negligence before there was a criminal charge, as there has been in this situation. and

it might well be the case that you need a new criminal charge with new evidence criteria to actually fit the work that we as actually fit the work that we as a society want police officers to do sometimes. >> okay, leroy , what would your >> okay, leroy, what would your view on that . be view on that. be >> well, i'm not too sure what exactly steve is referring to around this gross negligence piece. >> i think that needs to be really scoped out fully . really scoped out fully. >> but remember, these officers know what they signed up to. steve must have known that when he got selected and he went through the rigorous training and isco risk and rewards issue because they know the risks and obviously if they get it wrong , obviously if they get it wrong, one of the risks is you're going to be investigated dated and you might go to court. um, might have to go to court. um, lots of officers. there's no lack of officers joining 19 and those armed officers because it's kudos. you know they looked

up to by other officers . they up to by other officers. they have all the trappings . and so have all the trappings. and so the risk and reward is , well, the risk and reward is, well, you know, if it goes wrong, you are liable to the law, just like the members of the public. and i can hear people screaming at the at the screen when steve was saying there should be a double standard and you cannot allow that. >> we have to have a similar um, could could could yeah. >> put people to court. >> put people to court. >> could could i ask you leroy, i'll sit with you on this for the moment and is if there is i'm not necessarily saying that's what's happening in this case. but if there a case. right. but if there is a perception firearms perception amongst firearms officers that maybe there are cultural issues at play and maybe some pressure. et cetera. from some people not to appear as though the crown prosecution service is racist or anything like that, and that that may be maybe could influence decision making about whether or not something goes to court. making about whether or not something goes to court . would something goes to court. would that be a problem? do you think,

that be a problem? do you think, that exists? do you think that sometimes is societal or cultural pressure plays a role in the way that armed officers are are judged or tried or things like that ? things like that? >> no, i don't. >> and i would really think that that if it was a case for that, it would have been in 2011. because remember , after the because remember, after the duggan shooting, we had the uprising in tottenham right across the met in different towns and cities across the country. so if you would think there would be some sort of pressure on the iopc or the ipcc as it was then , and the cps, it as it was then, and the cps, it would have been then. so i don't believe that's the case now . and believe that's the case now. and i understand that there's issues around how long the office for police conduct carry out the investigation and the cps deliberating whether they're going to charge and understand all of that . but i think there all of that. but i think there needs to be a real

accountability and transparency around all of these processes and practises because the officers know what they signed up to. and lastly, i would say is the political interference piece, because the home secretary is interfering in this issue , which could actually issue, which could actually influence a jury when it comes to the old bailey case around the killing of chris kaba. so and we never saw that in 2011 with theresa may when she was home secretary. she went she didn't go into that political interference into the these issues around firearms . ofsted issues around firearms. ofsted and i don't know why they're doing that now because that has a detrimental impact on the whole jurisprudence piece. so they've got to be very wise on on this. and the commissioner really needs to understand that it could give the wrong perception that, you know, all of a sudden the plight of the officer, firearms officers is wrong. >> all right, stephen, is this actually part is this the culmination now of a bigger,

more long running thing where not necessarily just firearms officers, but officers in general who feel as though maybe they are not supported from above when they are making decisions in the line of duty that can have real world consequences . i mean, you consequences. i mean, you mentioned yourself, stephen, that you i think i'm right in saying nearly shot an innocent person. right. so, i mean, would you have felt that you would have had support from your superiors then? then then i think i probably would be honest. >> i don't think there's a general feeling that more junior officers are not supported by the senior ranks. i do think there's a morale problem because, let's be honest, the met has taken quite a beating and in some areas deservedly so over recent months, you know, nobody can excuse some of the misbehaviour that's been going on. and, you know, it's being fixed and needs to be fixed. fixed and it needs to be fixed. but coming back to the firearms officers , i think this is the officers, i think this is the

culmination of many years of that sense of a lack of support that, uh, that sense that they could go to work each day and not only put their lives on the line , but find that they're not line, but find that they're not going home because they're going they're charged with they're going to be charged with murder . now, they're going to be charged with murder. now, when i was a firearms officer, my wife was very unhappy about it. i carried on. i felt it was my duty. very unhappy about it. i carried on. i felt it was my duty . and on. i felt it was my duty. and she accepted that. i don't think that would be the situation nowadays . it's not just the nowadays. it's not just the firearms officers themselves that we've got to think of here. if we want a reliable and sustainable supply of firearms officers, we need to carry their families with us as well, because their families will put pressure on them to go back to ordinary duty and all of a sudden, society will find itself rather less protected than it used to be. it is ultimately a political question. i'm not comfortable with the home secretary interfering in operational matters. that's not her role . her role is to do what her role. her role is to do what she's doing at the moment, which is saying, look , we need to have

is saying, look, we need to have a at we need to a look at this. we need to review legal framework under review the legal framework under which work, which these officers work, because the way things are is simply sustainable . all we simply not sustainable. all we know sustainable know it's not sustainable because even officers from some provincial forces have declined to come down and help the met. uh, yeah . uh, yeah. >> i mean, that's, that's, that's something. yeah i mean, that's something. yeah i mean, that's something. yeah i mean, that's something that we can't get around and leroy now there may well be a bit of the old, i would call it, you know , for would call it, you know, for want of a better phrase, a touch of the gary lineker's about it. you know, when stands you know, when somebody stands down and people people go into support for them and all that support for them and all of that kind yeah. right. kind of thing. yeah. all right. maybe that there may well also just genuine underlying just be the genuine underlying issue that a lot of firearms officers at the moment are deeply and that if deeply concerned and that if they ever actually do have to pull the trigger, they will find themselves in the dock. and ultimately , we you know, that ultimately, we you know, that makes me , as a civilian, feel makes me, as a civilian, feel quite uncomfortable , uh, because quite uncomfortable, uh, because on the off chance that i might be involved in a situation that involves a terrorist or something that, i don't

something like that, i don't really want an officer walking around the street a around the street with a gun who's who's double who's questioning themselves. want questioning themselves. i want them them but is them. i want them to act. but is that unfair of me as a civilian? i know. what you i don't know. leroy, what do you think ? think? >> it's a very complex issue. and um, it's just like if a doctor is seen to be gross negligent around the surgery or any form of other medical work they're doing , it's tough. and they're doing, it's tough. and i take the point that there's families involved , but like families involved, but like everything , it's just like everything, it's just like a wider policing issue. police thing is, is tougher now than it was 20, 30 years ago. and because of not just the types of criminals encountered on the streets, there's all the way in which they can approach you through social media and cybercrime and all these sorts of things. so we need to keep evolving and reviewing. and i think it's important that we do the review and ensure that the

officers feel that their concerns are being aired. but we cannot allow it to just be seen in response to just one incident because we've had a long time waiting for a decision from the iopc and the cps and now we have it.then iopc and the cps and now we have it. then we start seeing officers being, i believe, unprofessional all in the way they've dealt with this . i know they've dealt with this. i know they've dealt with this. i know the federation has a lot to do with it. >> and so you so you do think you think that the handing in you do think that the handing in of their their weapons and their cards was was unprofessional . cards was was unprofessional. yeah. you think that was. yeah. because yeah. >> because that's their it's just like a general duty officer saying okay i'm going to hand in my appointment and i'm not going to, um. okay all right. for traffic offences or anything like that. okay. we cannot do that. >> all right. well, stephen, you don't think it was unprofessional ? unprofessional? >> i think it was entirely. understand i think the professionality of it or not is

beside the point . this is the beside the point. this is the way that officers who we ask to risk their lives on a daily bafis risk their lives on a daily basis feel that has to be dealt with. and it has to be dealt with. and it has to be dealt with in a sustainable way so that they will carry on protecting us. >> yeah. look, both of you agree there hit aired, but there have to be hit aired, but there's a professional and a reasonable way . reasonable way. >> understandable. yes. okay but we'll call it the professional way of dealing with it. >> thank you very much, both of you. great stuff. that's former >> thank you very much, both of you. police stuff. that's former >> thank you very much, both of you. police officerhat's former >> thank you very much, both of you. police officer leroyformer >> thank you very much, both of you. police officer leroy logan, met police officer leroy logan, who's chair the who's the former chair of the black association and black police association, and stephen roberts, who's the former director of the professional standards at the met. of coming in on met. load of emails coming in on this. the false this. patrick, i have the false backing with the firearms officers, says steve. it's mostly that mostly people saying that they actually back them, handing their weapons in fine . handing their weapons in fine. but then of course, are we less safe on the streets ? gb views or safe on the streets? gb views or gbnews.com. get more emails gbnews.com. i'll get more emails in loads in after the break, but loads more our more on this story on our website. is the website. gbnews.com is the fastest national news fastest growing national news site country. got fastest growing national news site best country. got fastest growing national news site best analysisy. got fastest growing national news site best analysis , got fastest growing national news site best analysis , big got fastest growing national news site best analysis , big opinion the best analysis, big opinion and breaking news and the latest breaking news

now, 11,000 migrants have arrived on the small italian island lampedusa from north island of lampedusa from north africa in the last week. our reporter mark white is in lampedusa to see the chaos for himself. i'm patrick christys on gb news. we'll be going to lampedusa in just a.

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me. patrick christys on gb news in a few minutes, there's the latest on hs2. is rishi sunak about to pull the plug on the controversial project ? it controversial project? it certainly looks like he might, but home secretary suella braverman call on braverman is set to call on western collaborate western leaders to collaborate to tackle the global migrant crisis . it to tackle the global migrant crisis. it comes as the situation becomes situation in europe becomes increasingly desperate with increasingly desperate, with more 11,000 migrants more than 11,000 migrants arriving italian island arriving on the italian island of lampedusa from north africa over the past ten days, our home security editor mark white, is in lampedusa . for us, at the in lampedusa. for us, at the epicentre of all of this. mark, thank you very much. so what is the latest over there where you are then . are then. >> well, we're now down in the port of lampedusa , so we're port of lampedusa, so we're expecting a thunderstorm here actually within the next hour or so, according to the forecast . so, according to the forecast. and in the meantime , i'll and in the meantime, i'll continue to show you the area around here. you remember our last hour we showed you that one boat that had smashed into the rocks on the entrance to the

port. well, this time we can actually show you dozens of migrant boats that are here in the port of lampedusa. i'll just get out of the way there . you get out of the way there. you can see those boats. they're all just piled up and abandoned here. they're brought in by the coastguard and other rescue boats over recent months. and in one of these boats piled high with those inner tubes and those makeshift life jackets we were showing you before , which are showing you before, which are just not ideal. showing you before, which are just not ideal . well, there are just not ideal. well, there are some something, i suppose, if you get into trouble. but that's the whole makeshift nature of this migration flow coming across from north africa. run by the people smugglers. they put these boats out to sea . there these boats out to sea. there are very flimsy and for the most part just not sea worthy at all. now, some of them look like sort

of old fishing boats , others of old fishing boats, others look pretty familiar to gb news viewers. they're off the same type of inflatable vessel or small boat that gets picked up from the english channel on a daily basis. when the weather is good and you can see on this boat , just like they do in the boat, just like they do in the uk, the border officials here mark it with spray paint, atm two, three, five, dash two three. so that means that's the 235th boat of 2023 to have crossed. now that's a number in itself, but as i was looking at these boats last night, there was one boat i saw with . 975 was one boat i saw with. 975 spray painted on it. so just shy of a thousand and probably other boats that would have a higher number than that. this has been the most overwhelming as far as

the most overwhelming as far as the island of lampedusa is concerned. the most overwhelming crisis that they've had to deal with in recent weeks , red cross with in recent weeks, red cross official told me a couple of hours ago that since the 1st of june, they have had 62,000 migrants who have crossed from nonh migrants who have crossed from north africa in into lampedusa. that the situation in on the engush that the situation in on the english channel. but it's not divorced from the situation on the english channel because we know that historically a proportion , a significant proportion, a significant proportion, a significant proportion of those migrants who enter europe's southern borders through island communities like lampedusa, through the canary islands, through some of the greek islands and up then into mainland europe , will head north mainland europe, will head north to the more affluent towns and cities in in northern european

countries . and a proportion of countries. and a proportion of those will head to north western france with a view to trying to get across to the united kingdom. patrick yeah, i know indeed. >> mark and what's the mood like on the ground there? we've been seeing some really interesting footage coming out that appears to show a bit of unrest between some of the locals and some of the people who've just arrived there. cases of public there. some cases of public indecency , etcetera. what's it indecency, etcetera. what's it like on the ground there in terms of that ? terms of that? >> well, it has calmed down because of these mistral winds, which have been blowing for the last few days . and they have all last few days. and they have all but stopped the small boat crossings from north africa. so that's allowed the authorities to manage to get rid of a lot of the migrants from from the camp here in the island and put them on ferries to italy , to the

on ferries to italy, to the mainland. and from there, at some point, there will be headed into other european countries . into other european countries. but what we had about a week ago, you're right, because of the very significant numbers that were arriving that that red cross camp is only meant to handle 400 people well on the busiest that day, there were 7000 people in that camp and they were literally climbing the walls . they were they were walls. they were they were scaling those perimeter walls around the camp to get out of the camp and to wander down into the camp and to wander down into the main town. there were clashes with police officers , as clashes with police officers, as we saw last night. actually additional police officers , additional police officers, reinforcements being brought into lampedusa , arriving at the into lampedusa, arriving at the airport there because they know that when the winds die down, patrick, just like we see in the channel patrick, just like we see in the channel, the boats will return in numbers days. >> yeah, absolutely. mark, thank

you very much. mark white there, our home security editor. and it's amazing, it? rock it's amazing, isn't it? rock steady . that internet connection steady. that internet connection is lampedusa. it'd be is there from lampedusa. it'd be great just do a whole thing great to just do a whole thing from anyway, loads more great to just do a whole thing fromto anyway, loads more great to just do a whole thing fromto abetween ads more great to just do a whole thing fromto abetween now �*nore great to just do a whole thing fromto abetween now and still to come between now and 5:00 scrap hs2 5:00 rishi sunak could scrap hs2 despite warnings senior despite warnings from senior tories, but it turns out that sir keir starmer hasn't always been fan of the project been a big fan of the project ehheh been a big fan of the project either. but right now, as he had last . last with polly middlehurst. patrick, thank you. >> the top story, the met police says enough firearms officers have returned to duty to be able to meet counter—terrorism responsibilities without military help. a number of officers had stepped back after a colleague was charged with murder over the shooting of chris kaba in south london last year. chris kaba in south london last year . in chris kaba in south london last year. in other chris kaba in south london last year . in other news, the greater year. in other news, the greater manchester mayor says the north shouldn't have to pay for the government's mismanagement of hs2. rishi sunak is refusing to guarantee that the manchester leg of the line will be completed . and with a decision

completed. and with a decision expected to be announced before tory party conference next week and the home secretary will call for unity among western leaders to combat the global migration crisis . visiting the united crisis. visiting the united states today, suella braverman will tell an audience in washington that other countries could learn from the uk's innovative attempts to tackle illegal migrants. she's questioning whether legal frameworks designed more than 50 years ago are still fit for purpose. those and more stories on our website gbnews.com . on our website gbnews.com. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. solar proud sponsors of weather on. gb news. hi solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. hi there. on. gb news. hi there. >> today's showers will ease dunng >> today's showers will ease during the rest of the day . during the rest of the day. clear spells expected overnight, but it will stay breezy. however, not as windy as we're expecting things to turn during the middle of the week. this

area pressure doesn't area of low pressure doesn't look the next day look like much over the next day or agnes, but it soon or so. storm agnes, but it soon deepens as it approaches the uk and a swathe of very strong winds, gales widely are expected around the middle of the week. before that monday night, clear spells for most of us, still rather breezy in the west and the northwest , but most places the northwest, but most places dry through the hours of darkness, the cloud thickening in the south and the west. by the end of the night, temperatures generally far temperatures generally not far from average for the of from average for the time of yeah from average for the time of year. at the low year. we're looking at the low double figures generally, but we start off tuesday with some showers getting going from the word go into the south and then the midlands east anglia and the south they do clear south east. they do clear through morning a rumble of through the morning a rumble of thunder possible the thunder is possible as the showers in places. thunder is possible as the shov spell in places. thunder is possible as the shov spell of in places. thunder is possible as the shov spell of persistent places. thunder is possible as the shov spell of persistent rain:es. the spell of persistent rain moves through northern ireland dunng moves through northern ireland during the morning into western scotland, clearing to showers later there will be later and for many there will be some spells by the some sunny spells by the afternoon in between the showers. blustery showers. but it's a blustery afternoon, the afternoon, making it feel on the cool . still quite warm in cool side. still quite warm in the nevertheless as

the southeast. nevertheless as that's all out of the way by the start actually, start of wednesday, actually, wednesday fine for wednesday starts off fine for most of early most of us. plenty of early sunshine , light winds the sunshine, light winds during the morning , but storm agnes brings morning, but storm agnes brings a swathe of very wet weather and very strong winds in during the afternoon. early evening afternoon. and early evening could disruption in the could cause disruption in the west . west. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar proud sponsors of weather on . on. gb news. >> well, rishi sunak has refused to confirm that the hs2 plans are greater high speed rail link from manchester to london will go ahead. the prime minister has been warned by senior tories not to scrap or delay the lack of hsz to scrap or delay the lack of hs2 from birmingham to manchester. >> this kind of speculation that people are making is not right. i mean, we've got spades in the ground. we're getting on and delivering. but across the north, what also is north, what we're also doing is connecting all the towns and

connecting up all the towns and cities in the north—east to west. that's a really important part of how we will create jobs, drive growth across the region, all of our plans to level all part of our plans to level up freeports are another good example of that, whether that's in elsewhere, in teesside or elsewhere, attracting new investment, new businesses in, all good businesses coming in, all good examples government examples of the government levelling up. >> okay . a bit interesting that >> okay. a bit interesting that the cynic in me would say that tory party conference is in manchester for in what is it now a week and maybe wouldn't want to enrage mancunians any more than potentially he already has with me now is gb news political editor christopher hayes. so rishi sunak was denying speculation of something but wouldn't say what he was denying or what the speculation was. the speculation was wrong, he told reporters today on a visit on a levelling up visit to hertfordshire. >> so it was about levelling up andifs >> so it was about levelling up and it's not gone very far. >> arguably, the most important bit of levelling up is getting people to levelling up places that is, that is hs2 and it's a

complete up because the government is now faced with trying to decide the future of this important link after birmingham to manchester or not. >> five days out from the party conference in manchester. yeah, five days out for the party conference in manchester. >> is what is the >> look, what is what is the speculation then? >> speculation that the >> the speculation is that the leg, the northern leg north of birmingham won't go ahead. okay. that's a speculation. right. and there's from the noises there's pressure from the noises off former prime former pm's david cameron. boris johnson and others are saying don't do it. it's important because they they it was part of their legacy when they left office. but he's facing the problems of rising costs of concrete and construction costs going up and they think can we afford it now politically how much of a vote loser loser is it if he quits on hsz loser loser is it if he quits on hs2 or goes ahead with it? either way, it kind of matters to the red wall. that group of mps, which boris johnson did so well to try and prevent , well to try and prevent, persuade to vote tory for the first time 2019. they're the

first time in 2019. they're the ones who matter. >> right. i'm just >> okay. all right. i'm just trying to figure out whether or not if not he would gain more votes if he stopped it. >> you're really cynical, patrick, aren't you? >> the is, that >> well, the thing is, is that hsz >> well, the thing is, is that hs2 seen bit of hs2 was always seen as a bit of a elephant, expensive a white elephant, an expensive white elephant. but the annoying thing is rishi is we've thing is rishi sunak is we've already so much money on already spent so much money on it stops now is just it that that stops now is just completely dead money, isn't it? >> it's spent heavily. but if you look at almost a drone route from here, from london, where we are now to birmingham, it's going to happen to birmingham, but where it starts to but also where it starts to start old common or to start at old oak common or to start at old oak common or to start in london at start actually in london at euston not. the question. >> ridiculous . but also >> ridiculous. but also there's the it going the whole point of is it going to level the exact to level up or have the exact opposite effect dragging opposite effect of dragging more people to london? >> it should. it's meant to link. that is the of link. that is the risk, of course. that's why would course. that's why some would say and might let's say and why he might say, let's start hull start building links from hull to manchester to liverpool , to manchester to liverpool, which is what people in manchester to hull and liverpool are really crying out for. yes, because it's really slow. i'm from there. i know how slow it is. >> is. exactly. so, >> yeah, exactly. so, so we should people

should do that thing that people like you have saying like you have been saying that they and have been saying. >> not link birmingham, not make it more people to it easier for more people to actually and actually leave those areas and come in london. come and work in london. >> what some will say . >> that's what some will say. >> that's what some will say. >> patrick you couldn't possibly have an opinion of course. >> anyway, christopher, thank you christopher you very much. christopher hope they're always you very much. christopher hope the drag always you very much. christopher hope the drag a always you very much. christopher hope the drag a route. ays you very much. christopher hope the drag a route. he's try drag him down a route. he's not going down. so not comfortable going down. so our here go our political editor here we go now shackleton, who's now with len shackleton, who's a rail expert at the institute of economic affairs. thank you very much. sure you were you were much. i'm sure you were you were listening all of listening intently to all of that. hs2 one of the worst that. is hs2 one of the worst infrastructure projects known to man ? man? >> i think it certainly is. >> i think it certainly is. >> patrick there's a long list of massive government failures. white elephants, you know, things like concorde and all those kinds of things which billions were spent on to very little outcome. and of course in the rail kind of setup, we're only just now seeing crossrail formally crossrail. now the elizabeth line , of course, that elizabeth line, of course, that took years and years and years, far more expense than originally

anticipated . and so, you know, anticipated. and so, you know, it's an entry in a long list of very bad projects . very bad projects. >> okay. so if he quits now , is >> okay. so if he quits now, is that better or worse for the taxpayer, given that we've already spent a load of money and people have had things under compulsory purchase orders as well in places like manchester? well that's just wasting isn't it. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> it eml- 5 crazy what's >> i mean it is crazy what's gone on. of course this is, this is where this was started under gordon brown . of course this gordon brown. of course this was, it's something was, you know, it's something which is wasn't an original a conservative thing, but they latched onto it. and as you say, it's a lot to do with this red wall business. but yeah, economists would say, look, bygones are bygones . we could bygones are bygones. we could stop now rather than incur the costs which we're going to incur , just drop it. but of course, that's politically very unlikely. i think , you know, unlikely. i think, you know, you've got 29,000 people working on this thing at the moment.

you've ordered 54 mega trains for it . there's all sorts of for it. there's all sorts of committed to it, which, you know , politically at this stage of the government's life, i just don't think he has a bottle to close it down. >> no, indeed . len, thank you >> no, indeed. len, thank you very, very much . this is going very, very much. this is going to be fascinating . it's got the to be fascinating. it's got the political side of it. they've got their conference in manchester. already manchester. there's already going to be doctor going to be a doctor strike there consult strike. there and a consult strike. i actually think there is a train strike taking during that strike taking place during that as protest in as well. and protest in manchester is. >> yeah , there is. >> yeah, yeah, there is. >> yeah, yeah, there is. >> of course there is. you know, and on top that, then on top and on top of that, then on top of that he's he biffs the of that that he's he biffs the hsz of that that he's he biffs the hs2 lakes manchester whilst of that that he's he biffs the hs2 laiini manchester whilst of that that he's he biffs the hs2 laiin manchesterter whilst of that that he's he biffs the hs2 laiin manchester there'llst they're in manchester there'll be look , thank you be riots. but look, thank you very much less len shackleton there expert at the there is a rail expert at the institute affairs. institute of economic affairs. now says that it's now labour says that it's committed building hs2 to in committed to building hs2 to in full. however, sir keir starmer has appeared reluctant to declare that he would ensure it reaches manchester, where if he wins the next election . yeah, wins the next election. yeah, no, me neither. but but this is

what he said back in 2015. >> i oppose hs2, hs2 on cost and on merit . on merit. >> it will not achieve its stated objectives . we have had stated objectives. we have had plans , amended plans and further plans, amended plans and further amended plans for use. the only sensible plan is to abandon the project altogether . either this project altogether. either this plan is far from being an improvement point on the other plans . it is the worst of the plans. it is the worst of the lot . lot. >> there's always a receipt, isn't there ? there's always the isn't there? there's always the receipt. so stop sir keir starmer there. back in 2015 saying hs2 is the worst rail plan possible and that it should be abandoned anyway . moving on, be abandoned anyway. moving on, convicted rapists could be forced to serve their full sentence as part of what's been branded a gear change on crime that will show voters the real rishi sunak. so no more will sentence you to this and you'll be out in half for rapists ,

be out in half for rapists, apparently. patrick christys gb news britain's news .

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sunakis in the last week. but rishi sunak is reportedly planning to force convicted rapists to serve their full prison sentences . so their full prison sentences. so none of this will be out in half the time business. that's part of a wider crackdown on crime. under the proposal, people convicted of the most serious sexual will barred sexual offences will be barred from . but will it from early release. but will it give victims seeking convictions more faith in the justice system? joining me now is women's rights activist aisha ali khan. aisha, thank you very, very much. do you think that rapists and other sex offenders should be made to serve their absolute full sentence ? absolute full sentence? >> absolutely . i absolutely >> absolutely. i absolutely agree with this. and i cannot believe that this is something thatis believe that this is something that is even up for debate. and we've had numerous incidents of people who've been convicted of sexual crimes like rape. and so on who've been released. and then they've gone on to reoffend again, often within months of release . but i do think that the release. but i do think that the proposals by rishi sunak , i

proposals by rishi sunak, i mean, there's a really, really strong whiff of political point scoring coming off here this is something that we as campaigners have been talking about for years, that the conviction rate of for rape and sexual violence offences in this country is so, so pitifully low . so it's quite so pitifully low. so it's quite you know, it's quite shameful, actually, that rishi sunak is using this as some kind of political football just before the general election is about to be called. >> i do. i do hear you on that. i hear on that. genuinely i do hear you on that. genuinely and it's same. could be said and it's the same. could be said for a lot of issues, i suppose the pushback against that would be, well, at least something's being i being done. yeah, all right. i mean, for mean, they're doing it for votes, least something is votes, but at least something is being it'll be being done. i suppose it'll be the counter that. i suppose the counter to that. i suppose the counter to that. i suppose the thing, as the other thing, aisha, is, as you've there you've rightly alluded to, there , you know, my on it is, , you know, my take on it is, well, build well, we need to build more prisons. actually, because prisons. but actually, because we prosecute that many we don't prosecute that many rapists to begin with , keeping rapists to begin with, keeping them in there their full them in there for their full term time wouldn't actually have that of an impact the that much of an impact on the prison it prison system, would it? it

would of justice. >> absolutely. i mean, you've made a really good point. you've pointed that we've got the pointed out that we've got the incredibly low rates of people convicted of sexual violence . convicted of sexual violence. and i've just been on the end. violence against women . org .uk violence against women. org .uk website and i've just to pull up some of the latest statistics so march 23rd, so that's this year , end of march this year there were 191, 195,315 195315. offences recorded reported sorry, and actually the convictions from that huge number, the 200,000 people who were basically sexually assaulted and we managed to convict only 1685 of that's not even 1. and these convictions would would have taken ages like we're talking months, we're talking years for the whole

matter from being reported initially to getting right through to trial. so i mean the whole process is deeply traumatising for victims of sexual violence. the whole legal process or judicial process. it's really, really unfair. and many victims just then give up. they refuse to come forward again and give evidence in court. i think we need to change the mindset of people from top to bottom. we're talking from the police officers that record these offences from officers in these offences from officers in the court. when you actually go to court dealing with having to give evidence , this is something give evidence, this is something that systematically we need to address that's why i'm address and that's why i'm really annoyed that somebody like rishi sunak is using this to basically points to get to basically score points to get votes and then these are promises that in the past, when they've made promises in the run up to the general election, they abandoned these promises after. and that's what the biggest concern for me as well. and that's what the biggest conyeah for me as well. and that's what the biggest conyeah . for me as well. and that's what the biggest conyeah . okay.e as well. and that's what the biggest conyeah . okay. i as well. and that's what the biggest conyeah . okay. i mean, l. and that's what the biggest conyeah . okay. i mean, has has >> yeah. okay. i mean, has has the labour party said that

they're going to do well ? >> well well 7_ >> well well , ? >> well well , to be perfectly >> well well, to be perfectly honest, i've not been on top of what the labour party have suggested, but this is something that bought up as a labour that i've bought up as a labour member myself repeatedly for everybody to deal with . everybody to deal with. >> sorry, sorry to cut across you . i've just got in my >> sorry, sorry to cut across you. i've just got in my ear that we've got a little bit of breaking news, but thank you very, it's shawali breaking news, but thank you very, there it's shawali breaking news, but thank you very, there is it's shawali breaking news, but thank you very, there is women'sali breaking news, but thank you very, there is women's rights khan. there is a women's rights activist . so other news, activist. so in other news, brave news. the metropolitan police has said it has received a number of allegations of sexual assault in london following news reports about comedian russell brand at the met. police has issued this statement following an investigation by channel four's dispatches and the sunday times. the met has received a number of allegations of sexual offences in london. we have also received a number of allegations of sexual offences committed elsewhere in the and elsewhere in the country and will these. the will investigate these. the offences are all non—recent and officers will be offering specialist support to all of the women who have made allegations.

the investigate action is being carried out by detectives in the met's central specialist crime command , led by detective command, led by detective superintendent andy furphy , superintendent andy furphy, superintendent andy furphy, superintendent furphy said we continue to encourage anyone who believes they may have been a victim of a sexual offence, no matter how long ago it was to contact us. we understand it can feel like a difficult step to take and i want to reassure that we have a team of specialist officers available to advise and support . but there have been no support. but there have been no arrests and enquiries continue . arrests and enquiries continue. so i'll just give you a little bit of a recap as to breaking news. in bit of a recap as to breaking news of in bit of a recap as to breaking news of us. in bit of a recap as to breaking news of us. just in bit of a recap as to breaking news of us. just a in bit of a recap as to breaking news of us. just a few in bit of a recap as to breaking news of us. just a few moments front of us. just a few moments ago . so which is that the ago. so which is that the metropolitan police police have issued a statement saying that they have now received more allegations in relation to comedian russell brand. it follows that a documentary on channel 4 dispatches, of course, grabbed all the headlines. channel 4 dispatches, of course, grabbed all the headlines . and grabbed all the headlines. and it was international news that investigation by the sunday

times as well, investigation by the sunday times as well , that went out times as well, that went out there. now, russell brand has so far denied every single allegation of serious sexual assault and rape that was put to him. clearly now, the metropolitan police, after they issued a plea for anyone to come forward. so in the wake of that documentary and the reports that came in the news, the met came out in the news, the met police basically kind of went on a of a fishing expedition, a bit of a fishing expedition, didn't they? they put out a statement , look, anyone statement saying, look, anyone come about come forward, not just about russell brand, just in general, even it's non—recent what even if it's non—recent what they believe to be a sexual offence. clearly there was quite a bit of response to that, as we are hearing . there was one are now hearing. there was one very afterwards . and now very shortly afterwards. and now and i'll just read this quote for again , the metropolitan and i'll just read this quote for hasain , the metropolitan and i'll just read this quote for hasain , ite metropolitan and i'll just read this quote for hasain , it hasatropolitan and i'll just read this quote for hasain , it has received n police has said it has received a number allegations of a number of allegations of sexual assault in london following news reports about comedian russell brand. the met police says it as well that there are other complaints , there are other complaints, apparently allegations elsewhere in the country and will

investigate those the offences are all non—recent and officers will be offering specialist support to all of the women who've made those allegations as there's a bit more to that story as well because the superintendent in charge says we continue to encourage anyone who believes been believes they may have been a victim offence no victim of sexual offence no matter was to matter how long ago it was to contact us. so that the contact us. so that is the breaking news the police contact us. so that is the bre.launching; the police contact us. so that is the bre.launching a the police contact us. so that is the bre.launching a russell police contact us. so that is the bre.launching a russell brand are launching a russell brand investigation. patrick christys gb news, britain's news channel. >> the temperatures rising. boxt solar the proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hi there. today's showers will ease during the rest of the day. clear spells expected overnight, but it will stay breezy. however not as windy as we're expecting things to turn dunng we're expecting things to turn during the middle of the week . during the middle of the week. this area of low pressure doesn't much over the doesn't look like much over the next so. storm agnes , but next day or so. storm agnes, but it as it approaches it soon deepens as it approaches the uk and a swathe of very strong winds . gales widely are strong winds. gales widely are expected around the middle of the week before that monday

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gb news. >> it's 5 pm. it's patrick christie's gb news that big breaking news last couple breaking news in the last couple of minutes is that the metropolitan police have released a statement confirming saying allegations the numerous allegations in the russell brand saga. these are non—recent. they're from london and country . and elsewhere in the country. they urging people they are urging other people to come forward if they have any allegations come forward if they have any allegatio indeed else, no brand or indeed anybody else, no matter took place. will incident took place. we will have coming have more on this in the coming moments. though, have more on this in the coming mo be nts. though, have more on this in the coming mo be discussing though, have more on this in the coming mo be discussing we'llyugh, have more on this in the coming molive discussing we'llyugh, have more on this in the coming molive incussing we'llyugh, have more on this in the coming molive in lampedusa we'llyugh, have more on this in the coming molive in lampedusa withllyugh, have more on this in the coming molive in lampedusa with mark, be live in lampedusa with mark white, who's on the scene after 11,000 migrants

11,000 illegal migrants entered europe few europe that way in the last few days. all to days. are they all going to make their britain? so, their way to britain? and if so, this having, this is what we're having, this debate only debate because should we only accept and children? debate because should we only accept britain and children? debate because should we only accept britain now children? debate because should we only accept britain now childlook, should britain now say, look, we've men, should britain now say, look, we'are men, should britain now say, look, we'are going men, should britain now say, look, we'are going to men, should britain now say, look, we'are going to take men, should britain now say, look, we'are going to take women should britain now say, look, we'ichildren. oing to take women should britain now say, look, we'ichildren. oing thavea women and children. we'll have a debate hour. yeah, debate on that this hour. yeah, this again, this other big story, again, of course, firearms officers quote on now, understand on strike now, we understand that the army has been stood down. firearms down. so enough firearms officers their officers have picked their weapons back up, basically. and now streets. weapons back up, basically. and now obviously streets. weapons back up, basically. and now obviously stilltreets. weapons back up, basically. and now obviously still going to there's obviously still going to be , isn't be a reduced service, isn't there? and i'm just asking whether or not people are in support whether or not people are in supp> well, let's bring you some more details on that breaking news you've hearing news you've been hearing from patrick within the last 15 minutes or so that the metropolitan have launched confirmed they have launched an investigation confirmed they have launched an investigatoffences confirmed they have launched an investigat offences following of sexual offences following

reports brand . reports against russell brand. the received the force says it has received a number allegations number of allegations, non—recent against number of allegations, non comedian against number of allegations, noncomedian in against number of allegations, noncomedian in london against number of allegations, noncomedian in london and1st number of allegations, noncomedian in london and in the comedian in london and in other the country. it other parts of the country. it follows 4 the sunday times. channel 4 and the sunday times. the it the metropolitan police says it will offer specialist support to all women who've made allegations all women who've made alle other|s come any other victims to come forward. russell brand denies all the claims against him. we'll also in news we'll also in the news today, the was standby we'll also in the news today, th think >> let me tell you why. i think some are some police officers are charged. it's not because there's against charged. it's not because there'slt's against charged. it's not because there'slt's often against charged. it's not because there'slt's often because ainst them. it's often because there is our is a certain outcry in our communities. the communities. and what the independent office of police corruption do and the crown prosecution corruption do and the crown prosecutio if not not for it. if it's not sufficient evidence what sufficient evidence, what they do it to jury. sufficient evidence, what they do do it to jury. sufficient evidence, what they do do you it to jury. sufficient evidence, what they do do you knowt to jury. sufficient evidence, what they do do you know why jury. sufficient evidence, what they do do you know why they '. that and do you know why they do that ? most ? and i say this with the most utmost experience. utmost respect and experience. 45 and order is 45 years of law and order is because public because they fear public disorder streets disorder on the streets. >> manchester mayor >> the greater manchester mayor says shouldn't to >> the greater manchester mayor saysfor shouldn't to >> the greater manchester mayor saysfor the shouldn't to >> the greater manchester mayor saysfor the government's to pay for the government's mismanagement . rishi mismanagement of hs2. rishi sunak to guarantee sunak is refusing to guarantee that the manchester leg of the line completed , with line will be completed, with a decision be decision expected to be announced before tory party

announced before the tory party conference next week. andy burnham curtailing the burnham says curtailing the project represents the opposite of levelling up. but the prime minister insists he's committed to the long term tory pledge . to the long term tory pledge. >> this kind of speculation that people are making is not right. i mean we've got spades in the ground, we're getting on and delivering, but across the north what doing is what we're also doing is connecting towns and connecting up all the towns and cities in the north—east to west. that's a really important part of how we will create jobs , drive growth across the region , all part of our plans to level up free ports are another good example of whether that's example of that. whether that's in teesside or elsewhere, attracting new investment, new businesses coming in, all good examples the government examples of the government levelling up. >> the home secretary is to call for unity among western leaders to combat the global migration crisis. visiting the united states suella braverman will tell an audience in washington that other countries could learn from the uk's innovative attempts to tackle illegal migrants . she's questioning migrants. she's questioning whether legal frameworks

designed more than 50 years ago are still fit for purpose. the home secretary has expressed her personal desire to leave the european court of human rights, which she holds responsible for the failure of the rwanda scheme . 1 million nhs appointments have been cancelled since december because of strikes in england last week's industrial action by junior doctors and consultants means the country will reach the milestone in figures set to be announced today. figures set to be announced today . double strike is today. double strike is scheduled for next week. the organisation's deputy chief executive, saffron cordery , has executive, saffron cordery, has labelled it damaging and demoralising , saying the serial demoralising, saying the serial killer lucy letby is facing a retrial on the attempted murder of a girl known only as child k . the former nurse was jailed for life for murdering seven babies and attempting to kill six others at a hospital in chester . between 2015 and 2016, chester. between 2015 and 2016, jurors were unable to reach a verdict on six further counts of attempted murder . a provisional attempted murder. a provisional date has been set forjune next

year. date has been set forjune next year . meanwhile, almost 400,000 year. meanwhile, almost 400,000 patients in england waited 24 hours or more in a&e last year. the royal college of emergency medicine is calling the situation a matter of national shame. shadow health secretary wes streeting says 24 hours in a&e is no longerjust a documentary , but the department documentary, but the department of and social care claims of health and social care claims improvements made improvements are being made through the nhs recovery plan. experts are warning the government won't meet its manifesto pledge to end homelessness by next year. the kerslake commission says there are chronic and unresolved issues in the housing system , issues in the housing system, with the crisis pushing more people onto the streets. the number of people sleeping rough last autumn was 25% higher than the same time three years ago. the government says it's spending £2 billion to end rough sleeping for good . and lastly, a sleeping for good. and lastly, a space capsule carrying soil from the surface of an asteroid has been recovered by nasa. the sample was collected by the rac

rex spacecraft before making the 1.2 billion mile journey to be parachuted through the earth's atmosphere and land in the desert in utah. in the united states. scientists are hoping the findings inside the capsule will shed light on the formation of the solar system and perhaps on the origin of earth itself. if you, with gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news this is britain's news . by saying play gb news this is britain's news. channel >> welcome back. we start with the huge story. i broke a few moments ago. the metropolitan police has received a number of sex offence allegations following news reports about russell brand, the comedian and actor has strongly denied accusations made by four women in an investigation by the sunday times. the times and channel four's dispatches . let's channel four's dispatches. let's speak now to our home security editor , mark white, who, despite editor, mark white, who, despite

being in lampedusa for us, is, of course, across all of the domestic well. domestic news as well. mark, thank much . what's the thank you very much. what's the latest brand latest in terms of russell brand and met then . and the met then. >> well, there's no doubt patrick, this is a very significant development . and now significant development. and now a formal invest allegation into russell brand has begun because you'll remember, of course, the original allegations centred around claims made to channel four's dispatches programme , the four's dispatches programme, the times and the sunday times newspaper was related to four women who made allegations of sexual offences and rape in both l.a sexual offences and rape in both la and in london. between 20 he 2006 and 2013. and then in just a few days after that allegation, the met alerted us to the fact that another person, a woman , had come forward a woman, had come forward alleging a sexual assault that had taken place in soho in

central london in 2003, and that that allegation, separate from the allegations in that dispatches programme and in the newspapers since then. now, it seems a host of other women have come forward judging from what the metropolitan police are saying. they are saying that they have received a number of allegations , ones relating to allegations, ones relating to the non—recent sexual offences that have taken place in london, but they also say they've also received a number of allegations relating to offences that have taken place outside side of london. now this investigation is being conducted by the met's central specialist crime command and the detective superintend are andy harvey is the man in charge of that investigation. now he has said this afternoon

we continue to encourage anyone who believes they may have been a victim of a sexual offence, no matter how long ago that it was to contact us. he goes on to say, we understand and it can feel like a difficult step to take. and i want to reassure that we have a team of specialist officers available to advise and to support and indeed the met police say that they are offering advice and support to those women who have so far come forward and made these allegations that now form the bafis allegations that now form the basis of a formal investigation into russell brand. >> absolutely . well, mark, thank >> absolutely. well, mark, thank you very much. that is, of course, the breaking news that the now launched an the police have now launched an investigation into russell brand. we'll be going back to mark in just a tick because, mark, as you could see, there was the italian was in lampedusa as the italian island , where 11,000 also island, where 11,000 also illegal migrants have landed in the last few days. massive

connotations this and consequences for europe as a whole . and obviously great whole. and obviously great britain as well. which leads me on to this. the illegal immigration problem is going to get worse , not better. the get worse, not better. the hordes of african men arriving in lampedusa are heading our way and we can add them to the hundreds of thousands of men from the middle east, from albania and india, who are also on their way now. i think it might be time to say this. we will now only take women and children. there was a reason why people were so willing to accommodate ukrainian refugees. they were women and children. their men had stayed to fight for their country and they presumably have every intention of returning there. one day. the british public are not racist. they are not far right. they are not unwelcoming . they are not not unwelcoming. they are not mean and nasty. but they don't like being lied to , having their like being lied to, having their generosity abused , taxpayer's generosity abused, taxpayer's money wasted and the country used and abused. the home office said that in 2022, 87% of

channel migrants were men , 87. channel migrants were men, 87. we are seeing entire former military bases, entire hotels now only being used to accommodate male migrants. we are hearing talk of possibly getting involved in some kind of migrant quota system with the eu. you only have to look at what's going on in lampedusa to recognise again , they would recognise that again, they would basically men , wouldn't basically all be men, wouldn't they?i basically all be men, wouldn't they? i think that refugee asylum and human rights charities actually do a huge disservice to genuine refugees by encouraging every single tom, dick and harry, for want of a better phrase, to come over here. we end up using places and resources on economic grifters instead of those who actually are in need. so when there is a genuine humanitarian crisis , genuine humanitarian crisis, we're less likely to be able to react as we would like to. now, i do not think that we would be seeing protests outside migrant hotels if the locals could see

that it was full of women and children and people wouldn't be worried about public safety, they wouldn't worried. so they wouldn't be worried. so much about whether local much about whether their local hotel is going to play host to a terrorist or a rapist. we could draw a line in the sand right now as a country and say , hey, now as a country and say, hey, women and children only. we have taken more than our fair share of men. some people will say, well, this will encourage more women and children to make the dangerous across the dangerous journey across the channel. doesn't have to channel. but it doesn't have to be we very be that way. we could very easily a quota system of easily have a quota system of women children that we could women and children that we could absorb britain without them absorb into britain without them having to break into the country via a dinghy. britain is not a land of milk and honey for a legal economic male migrants on the take and anyone who claims to care about refugees or asylum seekers should fully support a women and children only policy. >> those are my views. >> those are my views. >> i want to hear from you gb

views. gbnews.com would you back that? maybe you just want fewer asylum seekers and refugees and illegal migrants? full stop. maybe you would be a lot more inclined to be more accommodating if knew it was accommodating if you knew it was just women children. but for just women and children. but for more , i can return more on this story, i can return to security editor to our home and security editor mark in lampedusa mark white, who is in lampedusa for us, as we've been seeing rather far, rather a lot of mark. so far, this show, as should of this show, as it should be, of course, huge course, mark. so, yes, huge issues there at in issues there at play in lampedusa at the moment. you know, a precursor , a sign of know, a precursor, a sign of things for mainland things to come for mainland europe . there is the of europe. there is the issue, of course, it mostly being men, course, of it mostly being men, isn't well . isn't there, as well. >> well, yeah, that's a very pertinent point you make about men, because as speaking just a couple or so hours ago, 2—1 of the red cross officials here in lampedusa, they confirmed to me that of the 62,000 migrants who have crossed the mediterranean and ended up in lampedusa since the 1st of june seven, 36% of those were men, 10% were women ,

those were men, 10% were women, and about 14% were classed as minors were children. but 76% of those crossing were young men from whom the central african republics . and they are bracing republics. and they are bracing now for a surge in boats again to arrive by wednesday when the weather conditions that are a bit windy at the moment start to subside. i'm going to get out of the way, patrick, and just let subside. i'm going to get out of the see patrick, and just let subside. i'm going to get out of the see thisrick, and just let subside. i'm going to get out of the see this is

62,000 since the 1st of june. and you know, the fishing boats here in the harbour mixing with the sightseeing boats and mixing with all of the yachts and the other pleasure craft that people have here, it is a popular tourist destination that has really suffered and been blighted by the migrant crisis that has targeted this island , that has targeted this island, in particular because of its close proximity to north africa. it's not unique to lampedusa , it's not unique to lampedusa, though, we should add. it is also so affecting other islands that are part of greece, that are part of spain , that are also are part of spain, that are also in the mediterranean and relatively easy for those coming from north africa to access this. and you're right, patrick, that you know, those who land here and eventually make it to mainland europe and then many of

them had north and to northwest france to the shores there overlooking the uk with a view to trying to get on the small boats, having crossed the med terranean to get on to the small boats there to make that relatively short crossing across the english channel to the united kingdom . united kingdom. >> mark, thank you very much . >> mark, thank you very much. mark white there, our home security editor who's out in lampedusa us. we're going security editor who's out in lanaedusa us. we're going security editor who's out in lanaedusaof us. we're going security editor who's out in lanaedusaof ajs. we're going security editor who's out in lanaedusaof a lotwe're going security editor who's out in lanaedusaof a lot from going security editor who's out in lanaedusaof a lot from mark| get a heck of a lot from mark white whilst there, white whilst he's over there, really, absolute really, because it is absolute carnage. what's been taking place days. i'm really place in recent days. i'm really looking to just seeing looking forward to just seeing a bit of the reality of the bit more of the reality of the migrant crisis from the ground, but closer to home, the ministry of defence has been told that soldiers won't be needed to cover counter—terrorism duties in the capital. this, of course, comes after the metropolitan police saying that enough of its armed officers have now returned to full duties for it to be able to full duties for it to be able to tackle gun crime. look, scotland yard faced a major crisis after dozens of officers,

potentially even hundreds , potentially even hundreds, actually handed their weapons in after one of their colleagues was charged with murder last week. that in itself caused pubuc week. that in itself caused public outrage. armed officers from other forces had refused to cover their duties, as did training officers. and this meant that the army was put on standby. i'm joined now by shabnam chaudhry, who's a former detective superintendent with the met police. shabnam thank you very, very much. was it wrong for officers to hand their weapons . in weapons. in >> i think they've collectively come to a position where they've had enough in terms of the support or the lack of support that they've had from the leadership of the organisation . leadership of the organisation. >> ian, as i understand it, leadership of the organisation. >> ian, as i understand it , this >> ian, as i understand it, this followed from the charging of the officer and this is been going on for months. i've spoken to a significant number of firearms officers over the weekend actually who have given a number of reasons. look, i think the big point here is most of those officers, it would appeah

of those officers, it would appear, are now back on duty, which means there will still be those officers who have decided not to go back at this stage. and they're taking and they're probably taking some time to reflect whether or time out to reflect whether or not is worth them taking the not it is worth them taking the risk. >> and whether or they feel >> and whether or not they feel that it has the impact that it has on them, the toll it takes on their families. >> and maybe this is a good time for actually step down for them to actually step down from that and find new from that role and find new opportunities that create less risk . but what opportunities that create less risk. but what i opportunities that create less risk . but what i would say is risk. but what i would say is this regardless of all of those issues, the fact is every officer , it will be subject to officer, it will be subject to scrutiny and accountability and no one is above the law. >> no, no one. no one is above the law. but there is i mean, clearly amongst armed clearly a sense amongst armed officers that they could just do their job officers that they could just do theirjob in their minds under their job in their minds under extremely difficult , split extremely difficult, split second situations. and i'm not necessarily just talking about this most recent case, which is, of course, an active case. and i don't want to get into any hot water there, general, water there, but in general, they feel as though they obviously feel as though

there a good chance they there is a good chance that they will see will do their job as they see fit under extreme circumstances will do their job as they see fit underthemselvescumstances will do their job as they see fit underthemselves up1stances will do their job as they see fit underthemselves up forinces will do their job as they see fit underthemselves up for a:es and find themselves up for a murder case, which if you've got a wife and kids or a husband and kids or just life generally kids orjust a life generally it's too much to ask of them, isn't it? do they do they get enough support, do you think generally? >> well, i think the support from the leadership is clearly lacking. that's something that they're obviously the really upset and anxious about it. but what you have to remember is that for firearms officers, they have significant training . the have significant training. the training is rigorous. half of those officers actually go forward with that training, don't actually get through. that's how challenging and difficult that training is. that includes psychological training, all sorts of different types of testing for those particular officers. they would have been made aware of their legal legal clarity on what it is that they can and what it is that they can't do. however when you're in a very difficult, can't do. however when you're in a very difficult , fast moving, a very difficult, fast moving, spontaneous situation , often you

spontaneous situation, often you will make a decision that sometimes could be really good or sometimes it hasn't worked out the bottom line. those officers will know that. but what their argument is, is and this isn't to me , from what i've this isn't to me, from what i've been speaking to those officers , this is more about those officers not feeling that they're getting the back up from they're getting the back up from the senior leadership, that they are working to now suella bravman has initiated this review . rishi sunak bravman has initiated this review. rishi sunak has put fully supported it. the met commissioner is saying that they want legal protection and rishi sunak saying legal clarity. there's a big difference between both of those legal protection would mean that they might have to change legislation in which the bottom with that also the bottom line with that also for me is there's a threshold to be met for anybody . be met for anybody. >> you know what? >> you know what? >> yeah. i mean, having having having bit of digging having done a bit of digging into what the is, into what the law is, as i understand it, there is unfortunately a significantly grey area, which is that according to the convention on human rights , it has to be human rights, it has to be absolutely necessary for you to

fire a shot. and then when you slow something down, it's a little bit like kind of deadly vr in football, isn't it? when you slow something down and you replay it over and over again and you take emotion out of and you take the emotion out of it take the situation and you take the emotion out of it of take the situation and you take the emotion out of it of it take the situation and you take the emotion out of it of it and ke the situation and you take the emotion out of it of it and you1e situation and you take the emotion out of it of it and you1e si do tion and you take the emotion out of it of it and you1e si do kind of out of it and you you do kind of steel frame imagery, all of a sudden becomes easy sudden it becomes very easy to make a case. well, it wasn't absolutely necessary for you to do that, but actually practically being there under those circumstances at that specific moment in time , the specific moment in time, the situation could felt situation could have felt very different. i'm not sure different. and i'm just not sure how ever get legal clarity on how we ever get legal clarity on on that, because that is that is just a kind of you're dealing with human beings at the end of the but we're going have the day. but we're going to have to but i'm sure to park it there. but i'm sure i'll to you again because to park it there. but i'm sure i'll is to you again because to park it there. but i'm sure i'll is this you again because to park it there. but i'm sure i'll is this isu again because to park it there. but i'm sure i'll is this is tongain because to park it there. but i'm sure i'll is this is to goingecause to park it there. but i'm sure i'll is this is to going rumble this is this is to going rumble on, isn't it? sheldon on, isn't it? but sheldon chaudhry there, thank you very much. he's a former detective superintendent much. he's a former detective superi|.:endent much. he's a former detective superi|. yeah,|t much. he's a former detective superi|. yeah, it's divided police. yeah, it's divided people. issue , whether or people. this issue, whether or not you think that the firearms officers i think officers were right, i think they withdraw they were right to withdraw their guns. i think they their guns. i also think they are right to back are now right to go back to work. there go . but work. so there we go. but it's conference season . yes, that's conference season. yes, that's right. lib dems are

right. and the lib dems are having their annual get together right. and the lib dems are ha bournemouth.jal get together right. and the lib dems are ha bournemouth. don'tt together right. and the lib dems are ha bournemouth. don't worry,her in bournemouth. don't worry, it's exciting than it it's more exciting than it sounds the. but their leader, ed davey, has he got that sinking feeling? and believe it or not, the democrats, the liberal democrats, they are doing best to try to make doing their best to try to make sure that nobody mentions the european okay which is a european union. okay which is a shame because when we come back, we're talk about how we're going to talk about how the democrats feel the liberal democrats feel about the liberal democrats feel about the i'm the european union. oh, and i'm also not also going to ask whether or not britain take women britain should only take women and refugees and everyone and child refugees and everyone else can go somewhere else. patrick christys gb news britain news .

britain's news. channel >> welcome back. you're watching and listening to me. patrick christys on gb news. in a few moments time, i will ask whether it's moments time, i will ask whether wsfime moments time, i will ask whether it's time for us to stop admitting male channel migrants. just and only give just stop it and only give sanctuary and children. sanctuary to women and children. it would cut down the numbers and we would that we and we would guarantee that we were those most in need. were taking those most in need. in my view. but sadly, people who radically oppose that. if the lib dems isn't it and they are gathering for their conference in bournemouth or bournemouth and they will be making the uk's housing crisis a top part of their agenda, which many will find a little many critics will find a little bit because they regularly bit rich because they regularly campaign against new developments at election time . developments at election time. let's have a little listen to what party leader ed davey had to say. >> the argument for investing in social housing is to make sure that people can afford housing, but also it frees up the private

rental sector. in my area, we're really struggling because of national government policies. we're having to put people into temporary accommodation, sometimes very expensive temporary accommodation, and that means the private rental sector is just full up. we have a different approach . we don't a different approach. we don't have the developer approach of the tories . we have a community the tories. we have a community led that's using things led approach that's using things like neighbourhood plans. led approach that's using things like neighbourhood plans . and like neighbourhood plans. and let you a study of let me take you to a study of how effective the liberal democrat is, where democrat approach is, where neighbourhood plans have been tried. we've seen a big increase in the number of houses built, but been right but there have been the right houses right places. houses in the right places. they've they've they've been affordable, they've been . and here's the been sustainable. and here's the crucial had the crucial thing they've had the infrastructure, the social infrastructure, the social infrastructure to build the right communities, things like gp premises and like community schools, water schools, things like water infrastructure and what people object to about housing developments is that the conservative approach the developer led approach, has meant built meant that you haven't built communities, you've built soulless estates and i don't think that's the right. i don't think that's the right. i don't think people want that .

think people want that. >> oh, sorry, sir. ed davey there is talking to our deputy political editor, tom harwood, who joins me now. tom goss, thank you very much for riveting stuff. that from ed davey . stuff. that from ed davey. >> same you for snoring. >> same you for snoring. >> probably the most >> that was probably the most dull my entire interview. dull 30s in my entire interview. i do encourage people to look out on youtube where there's proper ding dong that goes on, where i challenged the guy, but no , for some bizarre no, for some bizarre reason, we've most boring 30s we've chosen the most boring 30s to the great british to show the great british viewing public. >> worry, sure got >> don't worry, i'm sure it got livelier got livelier. i'm sure it got livelier. i'm sure it got livelier than that. but anyway , livelier than that. but anyway, i was going to ask if you could count the number of people i was going to ask if you could count th socksiber of people i was going to ask if you could count th socks and of people i was going to ask if you could count th socks and sandals,e i was going to ask if you could count th socks and sandals, but wearing socks and sandals, but you'd need an you'd need. you'd need an abacus, wouldn't so abacus, wouldn't you? okay, so what's it like there? they don't want us to talk about how they feel about the european union. want us to talk about how they fe

foreign affairs spokesman, layla moran, oxfordshire mp. she moran, an oxfordshire mp. she said that we should rejoin in the eu but the party leadership won't say that in sort of a pubuc won't say that in sort of a public forum that was sort of an offhand comment on the side. the central line from the party is that uk should be at the that the uk should be at the heart of europe, whatever that means. that means. when you ask whether that means. when you ask whether that means , well, should in the means, well, should we be in the eu not, they quite eu or not, they can't quite seem to so it does seem that to answer. so it does seem that different said sort different things are said sort of perhaps evening, of perhaps in the evening, perhaps more loose lipped early than that are said on the central party playbook. but something very interesting happened just hour or so ago, happened just an hour or so ago, patrick, and that's that , of patrick, and that's that, of course, this is a democrat, internally democratic organisation, the liberal democrat leadership wanted to change their policy on housing, wanted to abolish the need for housing targets . but a group of housing targets. but a group of young lib dems managed to defeat the leadership of the former leader of the party, tim farron, besmirched them as thatcherites

. he said this amendment was the most free market thing to have ever appeared at a lib dem conference. but the young lib dems managed to defeat the leadership and now we're in this bizarre world where the liberal democrats theoretically at least, are in favour of higher housing targets than even the labour party. >> that is fantastic. that is fantastic because that completely flies in the face of what people at local elections voted for with the liberal democrats , doesn't it? because democrats, doesn't it? because people voted for the lib dems in large they were large part because they were blocking things like a new housing estate being built on the the of the golf course at the back of your house. and it looks the golf course at the back of yourthere. and it looks the golf course at the back of yourthe liberali it looks the golf course at the back of yourthe liberali it locdone like the liberal democrats done for at the back of for more houses at the back of your house. is that right? >> well, certainly that's what they're policy position is, no doubt their final manifesto might find some way to wriggle out of it. but of course , that out of it. but of course, that is precisely what has been voted for on the floor of the house and what particularly and what is particularly embarrassing for the liberal democrats that interviewed embarrassing for the liberal deidaveys that interviewed embarrassing for the liberal deidavey a that interviewed embarrassing for the liberal deidavey a little: interviewed embarrassing for the liberal deidavey a little bit nterviewed embarrassing for the liberal deidavey a little bit earlierrved embarrassing for the liberal deidavey a little bit earlier on ed davey a little bit earlier on before this motion passed, and

he squirmed on the issue of housing targets, saying that they were the wrong thing to do. well just voted for well his party's just voted for them. similarly that that tim farron , where he decried farron speech, where he decried it as a as a thatcher thing, as a free market thing, as right a free market thing, as a right wing thing. party's wing thing. well, his party's just voted for it. so it is a little bit embarrassing for the leadership liberal leadership of the liberal democrats by democrats to be defeated by their youth wing. but it is fairly , although i have fairly exciting, although i have a sneaking suspicion that by the time we get to an actual election manifesto, they'll have found way to water it down. found a way to water it down. >> oh , carnage in bournemouth. found a way to water it down. >> ohyou rnage in bournemouth. found a way to water it down. >> ohyou very,�* in bournemouth. found a way to water it down. >> oh you very, very ournemouth. found a way to water it down. >> ohyou very, very much.1outh. found a way to water it down. >> ohyou very, very much. tomi. thank you very, very much. tom harwood there a man who never squirms deputy political squirms, our deputy political edhoh squirms, our deputy political editor. still to editor. right. okay still to come, between and 6:00, come, between now and 6:00, after arrived on after 11,000 migrants arrived on an italian island from north africa in just a week, i will ask, is it time for us here in britain to stop admitting male asylum seekers , draw a line asylum seekers, draw a line under it, draw a line in the sand, saying no from now on, it's women and children. only we're going to have a debate on that. as your headlines that. but now, as your headlines have middlehurst .

have polly middlehurst. >> patrick, thank you. the top stories within the last hour. the metropolitan police has launched an investigation after receiving a number of sex offence allegations against the comedian russell brand . the comedian russell brand. the force says the cases are not recent and no arrests have been made. it follows an investigation by channel 4 dispatches. the times and sunday times. the comedian denies all allegations against him. the army , which was on standby to army, which was on standby to help the metropol police, has been stood down after the force, said enough firearms officers have returned to duty to be able to meet counter—terrorism responsibilities. a significant number of officers had stepped back after a colleague was charged with murder over the shooting of chris kaba in south london last year and greater manchester mayor andy burnham says the north shouldn't have to pay says the north shouldn't have to pay for the government's mismanaged payment of hs2. the prime minister is refusing to

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i >> permanent basis by the way. good here. it's a great good to be here. it's a great day. first this evening. day. my first show this evening. it so what time and what's on it is so what time and what's on so i'm standing in for nigel at 7:00, course , he is taking 7:00, of course, he is taking some off. guess where he some time off. guess where he is? of course he's fishing down in south—west rumour has it in the south—west rumour has it he's actually caught something today. oh, really? clarify today. oh, really? we'll clarify that before the show starts. so so he's away and so i'm in charge. and there's just as you know, there's so much going on. we've obviously got to talk to mark white down in lampedusa. i want talk about what's the want to talk about what's the future. forward 12 months. future. look forward 12 months. what mean for borders what does this mean for borders across the eu, for the schengen zone? what does mean for us? zone? what does it mean for us? how many of thousands more how many tens of thousands more are going to come over the engush are going to come over the english channel? no one's talking about how is the mood of the country both here and across the country both here and across the eu in 12 months time? i think it's really significant . think it's really significant. and what that implication has for the general election for the prime minister for. so that's a key thing. catch up with the latest news on the police , the

latest news on the police, the armed officers. it seems that they are essentially going back to work, that crisis may be subsiding, but there are some serious questions on that haven't gone away , has it not haven't gone away, has it not gone away? and i've got an incredible guest. absolutely incredible guest. absolutely incredible guest. absolutely incredible guest. first time on gb news. so he was a an armed response officer . and so that is response officer. and so that is absolutely worth listening to. so that'll be very exciting . so that'll be very exciting. hs2, which is one of my big bugbears as has been with nigel, both of us been campaigning for yonks against the madness of hs2. it going to be derailed? hs2. is it going to be derailed? are they going make the worst are they going to make the worst decision should they decision of all or should they do thing? scrap do the right thing? just scrap the lot? >> patrick well, we'll >> patrick yeah, well, we'll have to wait and have to. we'll have to wait and see. is going to be see. but this is going to be great. to be on great. so you're going to be on seven eight and all week, seven until eight and all week, monday thursday. you seven until eight and all week, m0|ofiy thursday. you seven until eight and all week, m0|of course|ursday. you seven until eight and all week, m0|of course arsday. you seven until eight and all week, m0|of course a fan y. you seven until eight and all week, m0|of course a fan favourite 'ou seven until eight and all week, m0|of course a fan favourite on are of course a fan favourite on gb it's great that gb news, so it's great that we've locked gb news, so it's great that we'\down locked gb news, so it's great that we'\down which locked you down now, which is brilliant, just to kind brilliant, but just to kind of give little flavour give you a little bit of flavour of about what's to come, we are going be going to, we are going to be keeping richard in the studio because to little because i want to have a little bit discussion . i'm not bit of a discussion. i'm not sure much a debate it

sure how much of a debate it will a discussion anyway will be, but a discussion anyway about in about that migrant crisis in europe with richard was talking about. europe is, of course, about. so europe is, of course, becoming desperate becoming increasingly desperate . accept that . should we now only accept that women and children. okay more than 11,000 migrants have arrived on the italian island of lampedusa from the north africa area in the past ten days or so. the majority of them quite the vast majority of them quite clearly are young men. we have had in 2022, about 87% of arrivals across the channel were young men. so should we now say, look , we're fully young men, we look, we're fully young men, we will just take women and children? joining me now to discuss this is, of course, richard tice and former labour mp stephen pound. look, stephen, we just heard a fair bit from from richard i will from richard there. so i will start do you think start with you. do you think that only take women that we should only take women and children ? and children? >> absolutely not. the minute we start getting into categories of people can and who can't people who can and who can't come writing come in, we're writing the catalogue come in, we're writing the cat.we'rey the list, >> we're writing the price list, the people smugglers for their autumn . autumn menu. >> we can't possibly go get >> we can't possibly go and get down, down that look, down, go down that route. look, lampedusa is very, very different dover and it's a

different to dover and it's a long, long way south of sicily . long, long way south of sicily. and it's pretty analogous to the situation in australia, if you remember, , remember, where immigrants, principally from and principally from vietnam and other on an other places were placed on an island were processed island and they were processed and cases they and in many cases they were returned. we need to returned. the thing we need to do is we need to do firstly is we need to actually stop being so pussyfooting about ageing, taking people's age. i used to deal with at least a thousand immigration year , at immigration cases a year, at least a thousand immigration cases year. a huge percentage cases a year. a huge percentage were with thick beards, you were men with thick beards, you know, muscular blokes in their 20s who actually, i'm 14, 20s who say, actually, i'm 14, i'm 12, i'm 13. we need to actually stop messing around and actually stop messing around and actually for bone density actually go for bone density analysis, dental analysis and sort that aspect out. the second thing is europe has actually got to get together and process the people from eritrea, from mali , people from eritrea, from mali, from togo, from libya, from nonh from togo, from libya, from north africa , from the sahel north africa, from the sahel area, can do that in area, which they can do that in the position to do it the perfect position to do it yourself. you nowhere near italy. all right. you can deal with it. and you. well should. >> all right, richard, are you shaking your head there? go on. i am. >> 9 mean, stephen's >> well, i mean, stephen's partly right, but he's

dramatically wrong. of course. what to do, actually, what we've got to do, actually, is got to stop boats . is we've got to stop the boats. we've got to them coming is we've got to stop the boats. we've the to them coming is we've got to stop the boats. we've the channelhem coming is we've got to stop the boats. we've the channel and coming is we've got to stop the boats. we've the channel and we'veg is we've got to stop the boats. we've the channel and we've got across the channel and we've got to across to stop them coming across the med . otherwise, this crisis is med. otherwise, this crisis is to going and look, to going grow and grow. look, stephen, we know what genuine refugees look like, who left ukraine and they were all women and weren't they? and children, weren't they? stephen that was clear war stephen that was a clear war zone. we know that the vast majority now of people coming across english channel are across the english channel are economic migrants. across the english channel are economic migrants . sadly, across the english channel are economic migrants. sadly, some of have got ill of them actually have got ill intent. some of them are part of gangs are looking gangs who are looking to basically involved in drug basically get involved in drug deaung basically get involved in drug dealing laundering. so dealing and money laundering. so i think there are serious questions to have questions we've got to have a proper discussion about this and be prepared actually debate be prepared to actually debate the unsayable . the unsayable. >> stephen, stephen, my take on it would be this. if it's if it's women and children, okay, there's of them. it there's still enough of them. it gives us more space just for them. they are the most vulnerable and i don't think you're protests you're going to get protests outside migrant really outside of migrant hotel really , if people know it's full of women children . women and children. >> stephen well,

women and children. >> stephen well , let's let's get >> stephen well, let's let's get a couple of things straight. >> is actually >> i mean, richard is actually right more often he is right more often than he is wrong, me no wrong, sadly. and it gives me no pleasure to say that. but he's actually wrong on this particular one. a lot the particular one. a lot of the people from ukraine people from came from ukraine were elderly were men. they were elderly people . they were were people. they were men who were injured. who injured. there were people who had health had psychiatric and health problems. ludicrous. and problems. it's ludicrous. and it's actually to say that it's actually facile to say that it's actually facile to say that it women and children it was only women and children who ukraine. who came from ukraine. i deal every day with a large number of people who from ukraine, people who come from ukraine, mostly through mostly organised through my church community. church and my local community. believe not all believe you me, it's not all women and children. the second thing is turning back the boats is the easiest thing in the world say . is the easiest thing in the world say. it's hardest world to say. it's the hardest thing world to do. the thing in the world to do. the royal navy will not ever, ever turn back an rhib or any other boatin turn back an rhib or any other boat in the channel. the law of the sea applies and anyone who spent five minutes on the organ will tell you that that is an unbreakable, inviolable law . unbreakable, inviolable law. >> okay, now, richard, know >> okay, now, richard, i know that are in favour that you are in favour of turning boats. i do turning back the boats. i do wonder is an element of wonder if there is an element of truth that, is just truth to that, which is just that would need someone to that you would need someone to agree to turn boats back. agree to turn the boats back. richard and do think they richard and do you think they would mean, people we

would? i mean, people seem we know what works because australia and the australia did it and the international crystal clear. >> i've read the treaties you're entitled to do it. you're entitled to do it. you're entitled to do it. you're entitled to safely pick up and take back to where people came from under to clear international treaties . and international treaties. and until someone does that and until someone does that and until we show that leadership , until we show that leadership, patrick, this will not stop . and patrick, this will not stop. and i think we need to show that leadership because i think that's what the eu leaders need to otherwise crisis to do. otherwise this crisis gets and worse. gets worse and worse. >> no, indeed. all right . >> yeah, no, indeed. all right. well, thank well, look, both of you, thank you much . it's you very, very much. it's a fascinating discussion and one that was going rear fascinating discussion and one théhead was going rear fascinating discussion and one théhead wabecause rear fascinating discussion and one théhead wabecause it'sear fascinating discussion and one the head wa because it's not its head again because it's not going away soon. stephen going away anytime soon. stephen pound going away anytime soon. stephen pourand tice, who i'm you. and richard tice, who i'm very say. now is our very pleased to say. now is our new a member of new signing. he's a member of this parish be lighting this parish and will be lighting up your television screens 7 to 8 pm. every single day this week. apart from friday, when, of course, he's got a well—deserved . now. well—deserved rest. now. stay tuned army was tuned for that. but the army was banned from bristol university's freshers fair. yes. defence secretary grant shapps says the decision absurd and decision is absurd and indefensible. look, we talk a lot about woke students. we talk a lot snowflakes , don't

a lot about snowflakes, don't we? they've banned we? seriously, they've banned the army university that the army from a university that university would not exist if it wasn't our military heroes. wasn't for our military heroes. patrick christys news, patrick christys gb news, britain's .

the people's. channel >> coming up, i'm going to be having a chat about whether or not it's right for a university to ban the british armed forces from their campus during

freshers week. is this just, you know, yet again student snowflakes? but before that, michelle dewberry is here to tell us what's coming up on her show . show. >> i never went to university. show. >> ihaver went to university. show. >> ihaverweever university. show. >> ihaver weever askedrsity. show. >> ihaver weever asked rsity do and have you ever asked me do i regret that? i do . look some and have you ever asked me do i regthe that? i do . look some and have you ever asked me do i regthe antics do . look some and have you ever asked me do i regthe antics in) . look some and have you ever asked me do i regthe antics in freshers some and have you ever asked me do i regthe antics in freshers weekie of the antics in freshers week and think fun. that's and think it looks fun. that's probably worst probably one of my worst regrets, , that missed probably one of my worst regrets all , that missed probably one of my worst regrets all those , that missed probably one of my worst regrets all those .that missed out on all those. >> but what you're regretting there missing out on freshers there is missing out on freshers week, itself. week, not uni itself. >> i think you need >> yeah. i don't think you need was quite for me anyway. coming up programme i've all up on my programme i've got all the you would the usual stuff that you would expect, but also want to look expect, but also i want to look at this you know the buy now, pay at this you know the buy now, pay whether or not pay later stuff. whether or not it's that kind of just an essential service or is it exploitation? the labour party are saying that they want a lot more robust regulation on should you be subject, for example , to you be subject, for example, to credit checks? you draw credit checks? where do you draw the line with that? who is to dictate who can buy something that currently that they can't currently afford? it's of afford? it's a bit of an interesting one. >> yeah, no, i think it is another another little topic. >> it's not just that. yes not just just just spend a whole hourjust doing one i've all of doing one topic. i've got all of the stuff coming up.

the lampedusa stuff coming up. the , you know, army versus the armed, you know, army versus the police who would want the armed police who would want to an armed police officer in to be an armed police officer in this country . to be an armed police officer in this country. so you're making these split second these very split second decisions you could find decisions and you could find yourself, you know, away from yourself, you know, away from your the of your your family for the rest of your life because made life because you made a judgement wasn't quite fair. >> not a huge amount of money as well. >> e! e an inheritance m an inheritance well. >> of course, an inheritance well. >> of course, an inherwant�* tax, of course, as well. want to get stuck one well. get stuck into that one as well. alex dean and jim schneider alongside . alongside me. >> it's to great. >> it's going to be great. michelle follows michelle dewberry follows this show , but i've show in the next hour, but i've just got time for another top topic sure is going to topic that i'm sure is going to get defence secretary get you going. defence secretary grant bristol grant shapps has slammed bristol university students union's decision to ban the army from their freshers fair, calling it absurd . the officers training absurd. the officers training corps says it provides military training for students was prevented from having a stall at the event because the group would compete apparently with their affiliated organisations . their affiliated organisations. says it's all a little bit bizarre, isn't it, really, when you think about the fact that universities and society as we know it frankly would not exist

if it wasn't for the brave work that our armed forces heroes and heroines do. i think bristol university is notoriously woke. the area is of course, notorious woke as well. do you think it's really right that a bunch of students, you know , the kind of students, you know, the kind of greasy unwashed , cannabis greasy unwashed, cannabis smoking lunatics that sometimes run student unions can get together and go, wow, look , you together and go, wow, look, you know, we don't want this. i bet you i bet you my bottom dollar that there is a pro—palestine stall at that freshers week. you can take that to the bank. i would love to turn up there and see some of the weird and wonderful and wacky that see some of the weird and wondywill and wacky that see some of the weird and wondywill be d wacky that see some of the weird and wondywill be at vacky that see some of the weird and wondywill be at that' that see some of the weird and wondywill be at that freshers 1at there will be at that freshers week. the actual british week. but no, the actual british army been banned said it army has been banned said it would compete with other affiliated organisations . what affiliated organisations. what are those affiliated organisations? combat veteran trevor colt i believe, joins me now. he does. trevor, good stuff. what do you make of the fact that bristol university don't want people like you there ? >> well 7- >> well , 7_ >> well , first 5mm ? >> well , first of all, i must >> well, first of all, i must always start off by saying thank you very much for having me on

your always your wonderful show. it's always good to be of team. good to be part of the gb team. but this and but i've looked at this and we've seen this is a common trait . every couple of years trait. every couple of years we're from we're seeing the same thing from universities, these are the universities, but these are the from the bedrock where we actually get most of our officers from across the armed forces. >> you know, they might not be the intelligent ones, but do we really have to take universities not serious tonight because let's be honest, let's look at bristol university. bristol university have just went from 250 million to half £1 billion in debt. >> so clearly , the people making >> so clearly, the people making the decisions that that university are not the brightest people anyway . people anyway. >> so i'm going against the army is something is something it shouldn't be allowed at the end of the day, bristol university rely on £25 million a year of government funding. so maybe if the government starts the the government starts to put the screws stop getting the government starts to put the screvifunding, stop getting the government starts to put the screvifunding, mayp getting the government starts to put the screvifunding, may startting their funding, they may start falling in line. >> patrick yeah , 100. >> patrick yeah, 100. >> patrick yeah, 100. >> do think a massive >> do you think it's a massive disrespect though, that we've got a younger generation of people through who

people coming through who clearly triotic clearly feel so unpaid triotic and, you know, anti—military that they're willing to bear a few from, from a from a freshers fair ? fair? >> it's disgusting . patrick you >> it's disgusting. patrick you know what the one thing which makes us so sort of anger inside is these freshmen and these universities are actually, you eating the freedom which has been granted to them from the soldiers themselves. >> so you know, it's hypocritical . hypocritical. >> patrick yeah, i couldn't agree more. trevor honestly, i couldn't agree more. and i'll tell you what, very much doubt tell you what, i very much doubt that be the first in that they would be the first in line if world war three kicked off. think they behind him, off. i think they behind him, behind like you probably behind people like you probably they'd blooming they'd be they'd be blooming glad military glad for our military then wouldn't . wouldn't they. >> exactly patrick but you know what we can use this wokeism against them. >> if the army recruiting >> maybe if the army recruiting stands identified an lgbt stands identified as an lgbt stand, then maybe we would be able to do that at universities. yeah maybe. >> maybe. i think you've seen you've seen a way in there . you've seen a way in there. trevor ashley that would a trevor ashley that would be a good of doing it. trevor good way of doing it. trevor it's i'm it's always a pleasure. i'm sorry and but

sorry it's short and sweet, but we've see we've got to go. i'll see you again friend trevor we've got to go. i'll see you againm friend trevor we've got to go. i'll see you againm c friend trevor we've got to go. i'll see you againm c now friend trevor we've got to go. i'll see you againm c now bristol trevor we've got to go. i'll see you againm c now bristol university cole. m c now bristol university students union spokesperson has said bristol students union welcome fair is an event run and curated by bristol students union to help build peer led communities whilst at university. it's primarily an opportunity for our 350 plus affiliate student groups to attract new student members. and we also host approximately 90 commercial stalls. we assess requests made by unaffiliated groups on a case by case basis , groups on a case by case basis, considering a number of factors which have been communicated to the otc, including the groups like the otc, offer an experience such as making friends, developing leadership skills and adventure activities . as i write , i would imagine . as i write, i would imagine that's rather similar to anyway , which is very similar to and therefore in direct competition with affiliated student with our affiliated student groups. so they clearly , from my groups. so they clearly, from my take on that, is that they think that having armed forces that by having the armed forces there as some kind of recruitment tool , that would recruitment tool, that would stop joining the venture

stop people joining the venture scouts. so there we are. anyway, look, thank you very, very much. for everybody who's been watching who's been watching and who's been listening, dewberry is listening, michelle dewberry is next fantastic then next with a fantastic show. then after that, sure tune after that, make sure you tune to in richard tice. who's in for nigel farage as well. he's a great signing for us here at gb news. he's one of the news. i know he's one of the most popular guests that i've ever my show, so you get ever had on my show, so you get to for to see him uninterrupted for an hour on. i'll see you hour later on. i'll see you tomorrow three. take it easy. tomorrow at three. take it easy. >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers, proud sponsors up. boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. of weather on. gb news. >> hi there . today's showers >> hi there. today's showers will ease during the rest of the day. clear spells expected overnight, but it will stay breezy. however, not as windy as we're expecting things to turn dunng we're expecting things to turn during the middle of the week. this area of pressure this area of low pressure doesn't like much over the doesn't look like much over the next but next day or so. storm agnes, but it soon deepens as it approaches the uk and a swathe of very strong winds, gales widely are expected around the middle of the week. before that monday

night, clear spells for most of us, still rather breezy in the west and the north—west, but most places dry through the hours of darkness. the cloud thickening in the south and the west. by the end of the night, temperatures not far temperatures generally not far from average for the time of yeah from average for the time of year. we're at the low year. we're looking at the low double figures generally , but we double figures generally, but we start off tuesday with some showers getting going from the word the south and then word go into the south and then the anglia and the midlands, east anglia and the midlands, east anglia and the do clear the south east, they do clear through the morning of a rumble of is possible as the of thunder is possible as the showers livelier places showers turn livelier in places as of persistent rain as a spell of persistent rain moves through northern ireland dunng moves through northern ireland during morning into western during the morning into western scotland, showers scotland, clearing to showers later there will be later and for many there will be some sunny spells by the afternoon in between the showers. blustery showers. but it's a blustery afternoon , making it feel on the afternoon, making it feel on the cool quite in afternoon, making it feel on the cooisoutheast. quite in afternoon, making it feel on the cooisoutheast. nevertheless�*n the southeast. nevertheless that's all out of the way. by the start of wednesday. actually, off the start of wednesday. actufory, off the start of wednesday. actufor most off the start of wednesday. actufor most of off the start of wednesday. actufor most of us. off the start of wednesday. actufor most of us. plenty off fine for most of us. plenty of early sunshine , light winds early sunshine, light winds dunng early sunshine, light winds during morning, but storm during the morning, but storm agnes brings a swathe of very wet weather very strong wet weather and very strong winds in during the afternoon. and early evening cause

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exploitation of the poor or an essential service. the labour party want to see much more regulation of the sector. do you agree with that ? and lampedusa? agree with that? and lampedusa? do you even know where that is? it is an italian island with a population of about 6000. well they have seen that population pretty much double because double that number of people arrived in small boats in just a few days . what is going on? but few days. what is going on? but crucially , how on earth does it crucially, how on earth does it affect us all here in the uk? is mass population shift now the future or not? and inheritance tax? there is more talk about this again. yes, of course, about it being scrapped . should about it being scrapped. should it be? you tell me. we've got it all to come and more. but