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it's 3 pm. >> it's patrick christys. it's gb news on the bbc scandal saga rolls on. should the bbc star name themselves .7 there's strong name themselves? there's strong views on either side of this. i'll be talking to tory mp michael fabricant. i'll also be talking to harvey proctor, who of to of course was victim to malicious false accusations . in malicious false accusations. in other news. yes. would you house an asylum seeker in your own home? a think tank has come out and said that maybe you should to take the pressure off the government thoughts on that? and talking asylum seekers as talking of asylum seekers as well, we are going to go live to the scene of a welsh town where they now blockading a they are now blockading a migrant hotel. it is fascinating stuff there to see a community kind of rising up against what they see as a massive intrusion in their local area. and finally , yes, the bbc rich list has been revealed. see who tops the list. see who's fallen down it, see who's got the taxpayer funded it's all go funded pay rises. it's all go here. patrick christys . gb news.
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here. patrick christys. gb news. yes. get those comments coming in gbviews@gbnews.com strong views on either side of this, but do you think that the bbc star in question should nato name themselves gb views gbnews.com. also, of course . gbnews.com. also, of course. would you an asylum seeker in your own home. but right now it's your headlines. >> very good afternoon. it is a minute past one here in the newsroom . the bbc's director newsroom. the bbc's director general has admitted he hasn't spoken to the presenter who's been suspended after being accused of paying a teenager for explicit images. in an interview with radio four, tim davie also said the corporation attempted to contact the young person's family just twice. just twice after their initial complaint. the bbc has paused its investigation while police look into possible criminal activity equity. now a lawyer for the young person who's now aged 20
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says nothing unlawful happened . says nothing unlawful happened. separately, the bbc's published details of its highest paid stars as part of its annual report. gary lineker remains the top paid presenter , taking home top paid presenter, taking home more than £1.35 million. so he balls the highest paid female presenter. she earns more than £980,000. ukraine's president says it's absurd not to set a time frame for his country's nato membership . world leaders nato membership. world leaders are currently discussing the alliance at a summit in lithuania . president zelenskyy lithuania. president zelenskyy says the uncertainty provides motivation for russia to continue its terror. well, the secretary—general jens stoltenberg, insists ukraine will be given security guarantees , as i also expect guarantees, as i also expect that allies will send a clear and positive message on the path forward towards membership for ukraine. >> i have proposed a package of three elements with more practical support, with the
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multi multi—year programme to ensure full interoperability between the ukrainian forces and the nato forces. this is move this will move ukraine closer to nato . nato. >> joe biden's former chief of staff, susan platt, told gb news the us will continue to back ukraine in its war against russia , but nato membership russia, but nato membership won't happen until the conflict is over . is over. >> the us has done everything they can in support of the war in ukraine against putin's army and will continue to do that . i and will continue to do that. i think there's time for everything and i think it's great that we now have really a pretty much of a brick wall by including finland and sweden. thank you to mr erdogan joining the nato alliance against russia i >> -- >> now, lam >> now, man's been found to have killed a nine year old girl by stabbing her in broad daylight as she played outside the shop where her mother was working. lilya valuta died from a single stab wound to the chest in boston last july.
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stab wound to the chest in boston last july . 23 year old boston last july. 23 year old devadas schabus was charged with her murder but has been deemed unfit to stand trial due to his mental health. he's expected to be given a hospital order. the only possible sentence mps are considering amendments to the illegal migration bill as the government attempts to get it through. the house of commons changes include limiting the detention periods of unaccompanied children and pregnant women and the legislation will no longer be used retrospectively against people already in the uk. the immigration minister, robert jenrick, told mps in the house he disagrees with many of the changes proposed , describing changes proposed, describing them as a wrecking ball in the draft legislation suffered a record 20 defeats in the house of lords . mortgage rates have of lords. mortgage rates have hit their highest level in 15 years, surpassing figures seen in the aftermath of last year's mini—budget. the average rate on a two year fixed deal is now 6.66. that's the highest level since the financial crash of
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2008. the bank of england has continued to raise its interest rate levels in an effort to bnng rate levels in an effort to bring down inflation. even however, the pace of wage growth has also risen again , prompting has also risen again, prompting fears of a further hike in interest rates next month. average weekly pay is 7.3% higher in the three months to may compared with last year matching the joint highest figures since records began 22 years ago. the office for national statistics also revealed unemployment rose unexpectedly over the 3:45% the european court of human rights has ruled two time olympic champion caster semenya has been discriminated against by world athletics. the 800 metre runner has a condition which means she produces a higher level of testosterone . now she was banned testosterone. now she was banned from competing after refusing to take that would lower her take drugs that would lower her testosterone levels . the court testosterone levels. the court ruled it violated her human rights and she's not been given sufficient safeguards following her complaint. finally, train
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fares could be reduced under a plan to encourage more competition on britain's railways. new research says allowing multiple operator hours to run services on the same line leads to better services , leads to better services, cheaper fares and newer trains on rail partners, which carried out the research. and they represent private train companies they're calling for open access to allow companies to compete for customers , like to compete for customers, like in many other european countries . as this is gb news more as it happens. . as this is gb news more as it happens . and now it's over to . patrick right? >> loads on today. right? >> loads on today . so we are >> loads on today. so we are going to be talking about whether or not you would house an asylum seeker your own an asylum seeker in your own home. that appears to be the latest order to latest scheme in order to take the government the pressure off the government and as far as and the taxpayer. so as far as i can is literally can see, that is literally making taxpayer pay twice. making the taxpayer pay twice. we'll about of
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we'll be talking about all of that where that and going to wales where there ongoing protests, there are ongoing protests, a blockade in fact over at migrant hotel there. but let's be honest, there really is only one place and that is the place to start. and that is the bbc scandal. the is bbc scandal. so the latest is that the director general the that the director general of the bbc admitted that he's not bbc has admitted that he's not yet the presenter over yet spoken to the presenter over alleged to have paid a young person for sexually explicit photos . tim davie also revealed photos. tim davie also revealed that no member of bbc management talked to the presenter about the allegations for almost two months after the first complaint was made , with a conversation was made, with a conversation only happening last thursday . only happening last thursday. there was also claims of them trying to contact the family just twice. once, apparently via email and once via a phone call. but the phone call never went through the microscope. i think now really is on whether or not the bbc have acted appropriately. let's go to our reporter mark white, who's outside side new broadcasting house for us. mark thank you very, very much . which quite a
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very, very much. which quite a lot to go at in the last couple of hours. just just whizz us through it. and the police have also asked the bbc to stop with their own investigation, haven't they? little round they? so do us a little round up, please . up, please. >> yeah. well scotland yard confirming that they have indeed asked the bbc to suspend their internal investigation for the time being while they scope out the evidence that they've been given to determine whether it meets the threshold for a formal criminal investigation . so until criminal investigation. so until they are finished, that process is the bbc cannot continue with its internal investigations . but its internal investigations. but tim davie, who should have been announcing the corporation , was announcing the corporation, was announcing the corporation, was announcing the corporation, was announcing the corporation's annual report, found himself instead answering question after question on this scandal that has currently rocked at the corporation . and they gave a corporation. and they gave a fascinating timeline, really into the events following these
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complaints. now, what they tell us is that on the 18th of may, the complainant is a family member turned up at the bbc at a building where they made a complaint about the behaviour of a bbc presenter. then on the 19th of may, the complainant contacted the bbc audience services and the allegations were referred to the bbc's corporate investigations team . corporate investigations team. now also in the 19, that team assessed that the allegation as very serious and said that the bbc maintained that the complaint that they received did not include an allegation of criminality . and still on the criminality. and still on the 19th, the investigate team then emailed the complainant stating how seriously the bbc takes such allegations and seeking some more information . but they say more information. but they say they got no response as nothing more was done in an effort, it
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seems, to contact the complainant until two and a half weeks later when a phone call was made telling a phone call to the complainant that. but that did not connect. and then again , nothing else happened. no other email, no phone call until the sun contact the family, contact the bbc. sorry, on the 6th of july, two, share the allegation actions and the fact that they were about to splash with that story the very next day. only at that point, patrick on the 6th of july did the bbc see then assign a senior manager to speak to the presenter concerned and now they've mounted somewhat of a defence in saying the reason the bbc presenter was not spoken to is because the initial allegations, although assessed as very serious, did not. it seems also contain an allegation of
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criminality. however if an analogous action is assessed as very serious as i think most people would wonder why a person at the centre of those allegations was not spoken to for almost two months. yeah, absolutely . absolutely. >> mark, look, thank you very, very much. that's mark white there, our reporter outside new broadcasting house. we will be going and forth to mark going back and forth to mark white throughout the course of the but the show for any updates, but lots points lots of different points of controversy around this at the moment. differences of moment. huge differences of opinion about whether or not the bbc presenter in question should either be named or name themselves for a variety of different reasons . and there's a different reasons. and there's a big discrepancy as to whether or not it is indeed the bbc or the sun that has more prove in sun that has more to prove in this particular situation to kind of pick through this quagmire. i'm joined now by the conservative mp, sir michael fabricant. michael, thank you very, very much. it's great to have on show . lots of have you on the show. lots of talk in the tabloids, more
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talk today in the tabloids, more than the broadsheets, as it were, about whether or not mps should use parliamentary privilege to name the bbc star in question. what would your view as an mp be on that ? view as an mp be on that? >> well, parliamentary privilege does have to be used responsibly and carefully . at present we've and carefully. at present we've got both the accused and denying it. i understand . and also the it. i understand. and also the accuser now saying it's all rubbish through a local lawyers. so i don't think we should be naming people until we know guilt because , you know, it's so guilt because, you know, it's so easy to damage someone's reputation. otherwise, we need to be very responsible. i think. >> okay. and a little bit later on, i'm going to be talking to harvey proctor, who, of course, had some devastating personal experiences having his name experiences with having his name dragged through the mud, horrific were horrific accusations that were completely so i'll be completely false. so i'll be keen to get his view. one thing that he took tweeted last night was about whether or not the
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individual in question here should reveal themselves . so get should reveal themselves. so get in front of the story, as it were, and have their version of events put forward. what would your view on that be? well you can say, of course, that the best form of defence is attack and if you've been wrongly accused, one argument, the one being put forward and it's perfectly reasonable argument being put forward by harvey proctor is to say , look, come proctor is to say, look, come out straight away , defend out straight away, defend yourself and put an end to it. >> on the other hand, if you're innocent and you've got i don't know, you've got wife, children, maybe you might feel, look, leave it to the police, let them deal with it and maybe clear the whole thing up very rapidly and we can move on from there . but we can move on from there. but what's so worrying? i think , what's so worrying? i think, with the bbc is they're saying , with the bbc is they're saying, and i quote the bbc have pledged to learn lessons and review the existing complaint procedure. and this follows on from that two month delay, which you and mark white were explaining . but,
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mark white were explaining. but, you know, this also follows on from jimmy savile and not quite the same thing, but phillip schofield on itv, you know , how schofield on itv, you know, how many lessons do they need to be before they're learned ? before they're learned? >> and there obviously is procedure . i'll come actually, procedure. i'll come actually, i'll return to the bbc internal protocol . tim davie was talking protocol. tim davie was talking earlier on. i want to focus on the sun, if that's all right. i wonder whether or not it is time to put up or shut up for the sun and whether or not if they do have absolute cast iron proof and there's talk of bank statements and all of this stuff, whether or not actually they should be fronting up with that. now >> well, if the sun has cast iron proof of someone's guilt, they've got nothing to lose by printing that person's name . printing that person's name. >> and it's in the public interest that they should. but if there's any doubt that is
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probably why they're not putting up and shutting up . up and shutting up. >> okay. yeah. interesting. interested and look, this is going to be these are ongoing discussions that will be had over the course of this day. and no doubt are happening at certain media offices as we speak at the moment. let's return to the then. return to the bbc then. now a couple of interesting things here. understand it here. so as i understand it anyway, it took around two months for them to contact the individual concerned . and senior individual concerned. and senior management at the bbc, be that senior manager at the bbc, tim davie says that he has still had no contact directly with the individual concerned in all of this. so there's that side of things. there's that delay, there's also, again, this notion that if they received a complaint that they deemed to be very, very serious and they are saying that they did deem it to be very, very serious , they be very, very serious, they tried to contact the family who turned up at the office by email
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. and one phone call that didn't connect. what do you make of that? is that enough ? is that that? is that enough? is that proper procedure? do you think? no i don't think it is. >> i don't think it's thorough. i don't think it's the sort of thing that normal, large commercial companies would do or not do. in this case. i think the bbc hasn't learned by its past experience and hasn't been vigorous enough . and if this vigorous enough. and if this individual is as high profile as is rumoured, you would think that tim davie, tim davie , the that tim davie, tim davie, the director general before suspending that person , that suspending that person, that chap would have called him into the office and asked him, you know , what's going on here? know, what's going on here? i want to know, as director general or as head of the bbc, precisely what's going on is there anything here that the bbc needs to be worried about from its reputation point of view? i'm quite sure that if a similar thing had happened in gb news,
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then angelo, the chief executive of gb news, would call the guy in straightaway and say, look, is there any truth to this ? i is there any truth to this? i just find this sort of rather distant and slow approach. not very professional in the hands of the bbc, particularly, as i say , we've had the phillip say, we've had the phillip schofield affair and of course the dreadful jimmy saville affair. no lessons at all seem to have been learned. it will be interesting to see how this pans out. >> it has got it has ebbed and flowed massively in the last 24 hours. this story from the initial allegations being put out there and made public to a statement by the individuals legal team. there is a big question mark and i will be discussing this a little bit later on in the show. the mum of the person involved in all of this has apparently said how how are their legal fees being paid, which i think will be looking at some possible. and that's a fair question to ask. >> by the way , this boy is
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>> by the way, this boy is supposed to have been a drug addict. he was supposed to be using money to buy drugs, which in itself is a separate issue. but how could he afford unless oh , just you know, and that's oh, just you know, and that's also a possibility . maybe the also a possibility. maybe the boy has a legal team working pro bono.in boy has a legal team working pro bono. in other words, for no fee, we don't know . there are so fee, we don't know. there are so many questions to be answered . many questions to be answered. >> there are so many questions to answered. we are >> there are so many questions to are nswered. we are >> there are so many questions to are goingzd. we are >> there are so many questions to are going to we are >> there are so many questions to are going to leave we are >> there are so many questions to are going to leave it we are >> there are so many questions to are going to leave it there re we are going to leave it there anyway. just want to anyway. i just just want to clarify something, though, and not that we're particularly in the misgender ing the business of misgender ing too here on gb news, too many people here on gb news, but they have always been referred to as they so far, or the young person . so we, we'll the young person. so we, we'll leave, we'll leave that at that. a minor point of clarification there, but thank very much, there, but thank you very much, sir. then sir. michael fabricant, then conservative mp. great to have your insights on the show your your insights on the show there. i said , a little bit there. like i said, a little bit later i'm going later on, i'm going to be talking to harvey proctor, who was through absolute was dragged through the absolute wringer with depraved allegations , which turned out, allegations, which turned out, of course, to be completely false . and i said yesterday on
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false. and i said yesterday on this show that i thought in my personal view that the individual in question at the bbc should either be named or should name themselves . that was should name themselves. that was my view. that is my view. and i know that divides people . get in know that divides people. get in touch. gb views gbnews.com. that predominantly centred around the idea that other people were being dragged into this. harvey proctor spoke obe completely disagree with me that , disagree with me on that, completely with me. so completely disagree with me. so it interesting it could be a interesting conversation. then conversation. but he then came out the out and tweeted, if i were the bbc i would throw bbc presenter, i would throw a press to conference broadcast the truth and that is something that i'm going to be talking to him should this him about. should this individual be getting in front of they be of the story? should they be naming you get naming themselves? but you get loads this our loads more on this story on our website . go to gbnews.com it's website. go to gbnews.com it's the fastest growing national news website in the country. it's got all best analysis, it's got all the best analysis, big latest big opinion and the latest breaking news. and of course, we do as well actually still have our gb news campaign, which is to stop the uk becoming a cashless society . the campaign cashless society. the campaign is don't kill cash. it's
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doing enough in terms of the taxpayer amount of money, hotels in local communities, etcetera ? in local communities, etcetera? i'm asking straightforwardly, would you ever consider housing an asylum seeker in your own home? just quickly, they want to roll out that ukraine scheme for iraqis. iranian iraqis. afghanistan's iranian and syrians. key difference, though, for me with the ukrainian scheme to those the ukrainian scheme to those the ukrainian refugees are mostly women aren't they? talk women, aren't they? we'll talk about shortly . but about that very shortly. but first, it's your weather. >> temperature's rising . >> the temperature's rising. boxed solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news afternoon. weather on. gb news afternoon. >> i'm alex deakin with your latest forecast from the met office for gb news sunny spells again tomorrow and again you will be dodging the downpour. some very heavy showers around and a fairly cool breeze. it's low pressure that continues to dominate. this one's been tracking across the country. this weather front clearing away from in its from the south—east. but in its wake, still plenty of showers moving through for most on a fairly brisk breeze, but slow moving, heavy downpours across
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northern scotland bringing some torrential rain for a time . and torrential rain for a time. and more rain will push back across northern ireland into southern scotland and northern england through good through the night. but a good chunk wales will chunk of england and wales will actually and clear with actually turn dry and clear with temperatures to about temperatures dropping to about 1314 degrees. now, much of the midlands, eastern and southern england will start off with some sunshine tomorrow , but there sunshine tomorrow, but there will be a lot cloud will already be a lot of cloud and over northern and showery rain over northern england and southern scotland. it'll fairly wet in it'll stay fairly wet in northern scotland with an increasing breeze here more heavy showers developing and they'll develop elsewhere they'll also develop elsewhere for ireland's parts of for northern ireland's parts of england and wales, although perhaps a bit more scattered than so a better chance perhaps a bit more scattered th.seeing so a better chance perhaps a bit more scattered th.seeing somea better chance perhaps a bit more scattered th.seeing some lengthier1ance perhaps a bit more scattered th.seeing some lengthier dry:e of seeing some lengthier dry spells, better chance of seeing a sunshine. but a bit more sunshine. but still on side , especially in on the cool side, especially in the temperatures around the breeze, temperatures around or below average still , or a touch below average still, thursday's a similar story, but not as many showers and some areas may have a completely dry day on thursday. still 1 or 2 heavy ones, especially in eastern parts come the afternoon . but parts of wales, south—west england at least a bit
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england looking at least a bit dner england looking at least a bit drier thursday . drier on thursday. >> the temperatures rising , >> the temperatures rising, boxed solar proud sponsors of weather on gb news . news weather on gb news. news >> well, here is a question for you. would you house a channel migrant in your own home? that's what a new report is suggesting . patrick christys on gb news and we will be getting stuck right into that very shortly here on britain's
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gb news. >> well, i will have the very latest on the bbc presenter scandal and i will cross live to south wales as a row continues after 95 staff lost their jobs . after 95 staff lost their jobs. more than 200 migrants are set to move into a hotel where they used to work. the latest development is that the locals have barricaded entrance . have barricaded the entrance. they've got marquees going up. this presence at the this huge police presence at the scene well . i will be going scene as well. i will be going there. fascinating there. it's a fascinating example of i suspect plenty
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example of what i suspect plenty of other local communities maybe wish a little bit wish they'd done a little bit earlier on, but here is a question for you. same, same , question for you. same, same, but different. would you open your own doors let to channel your own doors to let to channel migrants at your home? migrants stay at your home? well, is something that well, that is something that policy thinktank are policy exchange thinktank are suggesting, of suggesting, along with, of course , other versions of asylum course, other versions of asylum seekers to reduce the annual £2.2 billion cost of keeping asylum seekers in hotels. so more than 13,000 migrants have now crossed the channel in small boats this year. and that's 1500 arriving since friday. we are now on course to match or indeed beat last year's record total . beat last year's record total. so i'm joined by dr. rakib hasan, who's a senior policy sorry, senior advisor at the policy exchange. easy for me to say. raqib. thank you very much. great have on the show. great to have you on the show. a few elements few different elements to this for they looking for me. they were looking at opening into the opening up, tapping into the goodwill of the british people and community spirit. and i understand that . but is the understand that. but is the goodwill of the british public and community spirit not already being the absolute being stretched to the absolute max eye—watering taxpayer max by the eye—watering taxpayer
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cost local hotels cost and the use of local hotels against of the local people? >> well, absolutely . >> well, absolutely. >> well, absolutely. >> and patrick, i'm really glad youianed >> and patrick, i'm really glad you invited me, because i think that report , which i that my report, which i personally authored , has been personally authored, has been misrepresented in a variety of ways . ways. >> well, actually, say in the report that far too long the traditional generosity of underprivileged, working class communities has been taken for granted . granted. >> and when it comes to the resettlement of asylum seekers, some people would say illegal economic migrants. >> so what actually suggest in the report is that wealthier, more privileged , liberal minded more privileged, liberal minded parts of the country see where housing costs may be high, but the people may well have the private resources to personally rehome migrants. >> we should explore that possibility because those parts of the country have traditionally more liberal attitudes. >> i'll be talking about one area, for example , would be area, for example, would be saint albans in hertfordshire , saint albans in hertfordshire, which is not too far away from my home town of luton. then my home town of luton. and then let's those let's explore those opportunities liz, because
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opportunities, liz, because the reality saying , the reality is, as i'm saying, the report my personal estimate when it comes to the one year cost of rehoming migrants in hotels is £22 billion. £2.2 billion. >> patrick that's three and a half times more than the uk government's budget for homelessness, which is 630 million for 2022, 23. it's also a larger amount than the entire pot of funding for levelling up round two of the levelling up fund, which is 2.1 billion. so what i'm arguing for actually is looking at ways how wealthier , looking at ways how wealthier, more liberal minded parts of the country can help out, or in a sense, some would say put their money where their mouth is, put their money where their mouth is. >> and this why h" hm.- >> and this is why one of the reasons find what you're reasons why i find what you're saying because saying so fascinating, because it is now putting it on those people you people all too often when you see kind refugees see these kind of refugees welcome of that welcome marches and all of that stuff, asked, well, stuff, and they're asked, well, would in your would you have someone in your own they go, oh, own home? and they go, oh, sorry, space. sorry, i haven't got the space. and classic. and you know, it's a classic. they clearly want somebody else to you to do it. so, so, so, so you
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think now think that people who now essentially have the dare essentially have the room, dare i well may i say it as well, may be elements church of elements of the church of england archbishop england and the archbishop of canterbury, who sits on quite large they be large estates. they should be really the ones now saying, look, you what, we look, i'll tell you what, we will government out and look, i'll tell you what, we wilwill government out and look, i'll tell you what, we wilwill help government out and look, i'll tell you what, we wilwill help the fernment out and look, i'll tell you what, we wilwill help the taxpayer out and we will help the taxpayer out and will actually house these and we will actually house these people . people. >> no, absolutely, because i think that for far too long, i think that for far too long, i think we saw the large think that we saw the large scale disorder in knowsley last february outside the four star suhes february outside the four star suites hotel . if anyone knows suites hotel. if anyone knows knowsley reasonably well, there's a severe shortage in sustain able, good quality social homes. so for then sustain able, good quality social homes . so for then the social homes. so for then the home office with very little nofice home office with very little notice to the council to relocate asylum seekers to a four star hotel. that's not a sustainable state of affairs. patrick i think that we need to look at our refugee and asylum policy very differently and i believe that as it stands and for far too long the traditional generosity which characterises working class communities across
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the uk has been taken for granted and taken advantage of. >> yeah, no indeed there is a key point of distinction though, isn't there, as well between the ukrainian rollout scheme and people from, say, iran , people from, say, iran, afghanistan, syria and iraq . afghanistan, syria and iraq. absolutely. and one of those differences is the gender of a lot of these people. let's be honest, ukraine to honest, 100 ukraine intended to be and children the be women and children and the other side of things disproportionately is not. and i wonder whether or not that's a key factor in actually blocking some of these kind of wealthy liberal elites from wanting people homes. people in their own homes. they go, don't go, i don't really i don't really young man . really want a young man. >> absolutely. and that a >> absolutely. and that was a point made in the report. point that i made in the report. and it's something i think we discussed our previous discussed in one of our previous conversations because discussed in one of our previous convewere»ns because discussed in one of our previous convewere such because discussed in one of our previous convewere such strongecause there were such strong restrictions on men leaving ukraine for to ukraine in order for them to help effort against help with the war effort against russia, it comes to the russia, when it comes to the homes for scheme in the homes for ukraine scheme in the uk, primarily involves uk, that primarily involves women and children and people understandably are more willing and open to rehoming women and more open to rehoming women and more open to rehoming women and children in even in their own private household . so what i own private household. so what i call for in this new report is a
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new annual cap being introduced for refugees, which is democratic , decided by the uk democratic, decided by the uk parliament. and under that cap, patrick, women and children , patrick, women and children, especially in conflict affected territories where they're at major threat of sexual violence, they're prioritised under that cap because i think that that would lead to a more streamlined asylum system, which is more welcome, which is more workable and we'll be able to galvanise voluntary spirit that way. >> yeah. look, rikki neave look. thank you very, very much for coming on and for explaining, i think more detail think in a lot more detail exactly of this exactly the context of this report akiba who report. it's dr. akiba sano, who is advisor at the is the senior advisor at the policy just very , very policy exchange. just very, very quickly, gbviews@gbnews.com i was asking you whether or not you would house an asylum seeker was asking you whether or not ytherould house an asylum seeker was asking you whether or not ythe shorthouse an asylum seeker was asking you whether or not ythe short answern asylum seeker was asking you whether or not ythe short answer isasylum seeker was asking you whether or not ythe short answer is no,um seeker was asking you whether or not ythe short answer is no, saysaeker . the short answer is no, says elizabeth. way . i wouldn't. elizabeth. no way. i wouldn't. and that's because they are mostly men. and that is from david. and that is the point thatis david. and that is the point that is going to be echoed, i think, throughout course of think, throughout the course of this to this show. loads more still to come now and 4:00 at the come between now and 4:00 at the bbc. presenter scandal rumbles come between now and 4:00 at the bb(i presenter scandal rumbles come between now and 4:00 at the bb(i willenter scandal rumbles
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>> the price of gold £1,498.73 per ounce. and the ftse 100 is at 7265 points. direct bullion sponsors the finance report on gb news for gold and silver investment . investment. >> yeah, well, look very shortly i'm hoping to have a chat with harvey proctor, who was, of course, falsely accused of absolutely depraved and awful things not so long ago . and it things not so long ago. and it shattered his reputation for a penod shattered his reputation for a period of time. anyway. he's got strong views on this. bbc presenter scandal yesterday i said that the individual involved should be named or they should name themselves or an mp should name themselves or an mp should them predominantly. should name themselves or an mp shoul basing them predominantly. should name themselves or an mp shoul basing thatn predominantly. should name themselves or an mp shoul basing that around minantly. should name themselves or an mp shoul basing that around the antly. i was basing that around the idea that other people were being dragged into this needlessly. i was also arguing about public interest about a public interest situation. there and i still back that harvey was very much against that. but what harvey was saying last night, and i hope we'll come on to say very, very is that
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very shortly anyway, is that actually the individual in question here should call a press conference themselves , press conference themselves, do what get in of what he did, and get in front of the story and set the record straight. and that is an interesting way of doing it. i want whether or not you want to know whether or not you think that that's something that should we should happen. but just while we wait two for harvey, wait a second or two for harvey, i return one of i just want to return to one of the big stories that we're talking is talking about today, which is about whether or not brits should to throw should be expected to throw their to asylum their doors open to asylum seekers in this country to help cut want seekers in this country to help cu emphasise want seekers in this country to help cu emphasise again want seekers in this country to help cu emphasise again exact ant to emphasise again the exact cost which is expected, by the way, rise to way, apparently to rise to somewhere of somewhere in the region of 11,000,000,000in the next couple of broke on the of years. it also broke on the day another story which is day of another story which is that the home office is apparently spending £1 apparently spending half £1 million on 5000 empty million a day on 5000 empty hotel rooms in preparation, a block booking these rooms in preparation to be moving people in. so as we currently speak now, apparently there are around 5000 empty hotel rooms which you and i and everyone we know are paying and i and everyone we know are paying order wait paying for in order to wait for them filled people them to be filled by people who potentially just crossed the engush potentially just crossed the english channel. so is this really should it ever really be on to the british taxpayer to
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then throw their own doors open to help the government out of a mess of their own creating? i am convinced living convinced that we are living ordinary british people are living the ongoing living with the ongoing nightmare political failures. nightmare of political failures. rmt ups and our house of lords are ultimately, as things stand, unable to get to grips with what's going on in the channel. and whilst they dither and delay, and whilst their pontificate about what's right , pontificate about what's right, what's wrong. et cetera. et cetera . then frankly, we are all cetera. then frankly, we are all here paying the price and we are all suffering. but as if by magic we've managed to actually pull up another guest on an equally important topic, which ties in. and that's what's been going on in wales now. we were talking yesterday, weren't we, about local welsh residents and i've been practising this fluently, essentially barricading outside a hotel to try to stop it being used as a migrant hotel. 95 people lost theirjobs migrant hotel. 95 people lost their jobs there by mark calculations, around 20,000 people in the uk have already lost their jobs as a result of asylum seeker hotels popping up,
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let alone , of course, the loss let alone, of course, the loss to various things like £300 million regeneration projects in places like scampton, for example. but let's just get an update now on a story that i covered yesterday, which is this claim, natalie hotel in south wales, 95 staff lost their job. protesters have started to erect marquees outside the hotel in stradey park . while organisers stradey park. while organisers say that they've been provided with they continue to with food as they continue to fight. this decision to house asylum seekers that i'm going to bnngin asylum seekers that i'm going to bring in now, local resident steve williams. you might remember it from yesterday, but it's get an it's always good to get an update. thank you very update. steve, thank you very much. great have you on the much. great to have you on the show. joining show. thank you for joining me again. understand again. so, yes, as i understand it, now marquees going it, there are now marquees going up. made up. there's food being made available essentially, are available. essentially, you are setting camp there. but this setting up camp there. but this is interesting point of is a really interesting point of distinction between the hotel at this ones , this site and some other ones, which is, again, steve, i think this is surrounded by private roads. is it? which means that actually in order to get access to this particular hotel, people
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have to have permission and they're not getting permission, are they ? are they? >> it's a row at the moment. it's under contestant who actually owns the property. it's clear that it's not shown on the stradey park hotels plot of land in they own and all the in which they own and all the rest it. and the hotel itself rest of it. and the hotel itself has been known as what's called the brynymor, which is a an old georgian townhouse house. now, it had a large estate , and that it had a large estate, and that has been split up into many areas. and the front area is not actually connected directly to the stradey park hotel. it is quite a small area and some of the local residents have allowed access to it just to support the economy realistically. and when it was a hotel . and that has it was a hotel. and that has obviously changed now from the hotel. >> yeah. so we currently have a situation where there is a 24 hour blockade taking place , hour blockade taking place, isn't there? and it's an incredibly wide age range of people who appear to be doing this blockade . isn't that right? this blockade. isn't that right? yeah it is. >> we've got teenagers up to the people in their 80s are prepared
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to do it. we have 20 hours, 24 hour shift coverage. there you know, belief is know, the general belief is there that people have got to make a stand on this occasion rather than regret that later days have that days that they didn't have that opportunity it. now we're opportunity to do it. now we're in it for the long haul. as you can from footage there. can see from the footage there. now, , the significant now, you know, the significant amount there at this amount of people there at this time. now, there was a few hundred people there yesterday . hundred people there yesterday. food has been brought there by a variety of businesses, some large businesses, some national businesses in in the uk have even supplied food. what soft drinks, hot food, you name it. and as you can see there, the gazebo is being set up that's been donated with a generator , been donated with a generator, has donated the amount of offer of support we've had from not just in the area, but the wider area of south wales has been absolutely astronomic . and it is absolutely astronomic. and it is it is pleasing to see the way in which the community has come together. and as i said, there were hundred people were several hundred people there yesterday supporting the hotel , the village, the
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hotel, the village, the community and the concerns that we have regards the activity of the home office and its agents. yeah, i know indeed. >> and i think this is a fascinating case study on what actually happens when people have had enough. all too often the office has been the home office has been plonking people kind of 5050 plonking people in kind of 5050 areas. okay. so areas where maidenhead's a good example, where, for example, it's theresa may's constituency as an mp, the council there has just gone lib dem . so i would argue you've got dem. so i would argue you've got a lot of kind of soft tories there. so whilst you've got a lot of local opposition to the idea holiday inn used idea of a holiday inn being used as hotel, not as a migrant hotel, it's not really enough and the people won't galvanise themselves quickly case that quickly enough. in the case that you guys have in order to actually block something from happening, moved in, happening, it'll be moved in, it'll then it's it'll be done, and then it's game for that area. they game over for that area. if they don't to happen, you're don't want it to happen, you're not removed not having them removed once they're whereas they're in there. okay whereas you all together you guys have all come together and why so important to and why is it so important to your community? because i am assuming that you've probably got pushback from got quite a bit of pushback from people area saying, people outside the area saying, oh, look, come on, your anti asylum seeker , you must be
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asylum seeker, you must be racist as me , we've had that. racist as me, we've had that. >> i think it's going to be par for the course. realistically, we're going to get those type of suggestions. i said yesterday that's not the case because some of the people that are supporting been mixed supporting us have been a mixed race got race marriages. they've got friends who different friends who are from different different ethnic backgrounds, etcetera. it's about the way in which the home office has done that. there is a need to support vulnerable people and said yesterday, we've got to be sensible about was sensible here about it was interesting hear the words of interesting to hear the words of your interview person your previous interview person being interviewed . dr. roe v being interviewed. dr. roe v wade it was quite interesting in his views relation to it and his views in relation to it and pleasing to hear that. now as a community we are concerned about what's going to be happening. nobody's telling us what's happening. we know who is happening. we don't know who is coming one of the coming here. and one of the common we're talking coming here. and one of the co people, we're talking coming here. and one of the co people, said we're talking coming here. and one of the co people, said ifne're talking coming here. and one of the co people, said if 2505 talking to people, they said if 250 aduu to people, they said if 250 adult turned up in the adult males turned up in the area and they were stay in there and were going to be living and they were going to be living there, the questions would be asked of asked about them irrespective of their race. their background and their race. when them when you know nothing about them and engaging with you and nobody's engaging with you and nobody's engaging with you and giving
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and helping you and giving advice and advice and guidance. and obviously seeing things on obviously we're seeing things on social media. people are concerned by that. they're doing their own fact checks in relation to it. and it is , you relation to it. and it is, you know , we're happy to support know, we're happy to support people. we are happy to support people. we are happy to support people. but this is totally the wrong place. as you can see from the footage there. now, the those houses are occupied. the hotel itself overlook a number of houses into their back gardens. they've got flimsy fencing there. as you walk around the village . now, around the village. now, a number of properties have put their own wood fencing up at the front of the properties to stop people looking in. this isn't because of the crowds of people that are there. they've said there's about what's that are there. they've said there'to about what's that are there. they've said there'to in out what's that are there. they've said there'to in the what's that are there. they've said there'to in the future . going to happen in the future. the amount cameras and the amount of ring cameras and obviously there are other companies available , but the companies available, but the amount of ring cameras that have been installed around the community is absolutely unbelievable . so ashley unbelievable. so ashley itself is an old mining town, had steel working area factories , car working area factories, car factories, etcetera. there's not many of those jobs about these
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days. many of those jobs about these days . and as your colleague said days. and as your colleague said about the working class area being targeted, disproportion shaun bailey, that is certainly the case here. this is a working class who's to class area who's trying to strive , hard to be able strive extreme, hard to be able to bring in income through the travelling economy or tourism economy and take a 2,025% of the beds of the area away in a top class hotel , all with the way class hotel, all with the way that they've done it with no, no suggestion of how there's going to be any improvement for the economy. there's obviously costs being incurred by a lot of lot of different agencies as the police is obviously an expensive prospect for them because i said we're in it for the long haul. officers are there 24 over seven. they've been drafted from normal policing duties. they've been brought from home. some of them home, them it is their own home, their own villages, family live own villages, their family live close they're finding it close by. they're finding it extremely difficult to be policed and policed in this. and i appreciate there's some footage that's but i know a that's been on, but i know a number the officers number of the officers and they are it. are extremely upset by it. >> puts it puts >> it puts it puts it puts everybody. yeah it puts it puts
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everybody. yeah it puts it puts everybody in a very difficult situation. and i think you're absolutely right to highlight something. this vital something. and this is vital that as much an issue that this is as much an issue about, i would argue, working class rights as it is about anything else actually. and working class areas being disproportionately targeted like yours in wales , like loads in yours in wales, like loads in the north of england , loads in the north of england, loads in the north of england, loads in the north of england. they're not dropping all of people not dropping all of these people down leafy surrey areas, down in the leafy surrey areas, are are plunking them are they? they are plunking them up north in places where they can people all sorts of can call people all sorts of names they don't want them. names if they don't want them. and make people unemployed. steve, and steve, thank you very much and good luck. be back back good luck. you'll be back back at the back at the picket line, as point soon, as it were, at some point soon, i imagine. williams, our i imagine. steve williams, our local resident who's taking part in here's in all of this. look, here's a question. question question. here's a question for you. is lineker worth £1.35 you. is gary lineker worth £1.35 million a year? that is what he's being paid by the bbc. we'll have a look at the bbc rich list when we come back. patrick christys on gb
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radio. >> okay, i'm going to get stuck right into this now on the bbc presenter scandal. the story, as we all know, broke last friday, and while the accused man has been suspended , he has still not been suspended, he has still not been suspended, he has still not been named . one of the big been named. one of the big questions now is should the person be publicly named? i'm very pleased to say that we are now joined by harvey proctor, who in 2015 was wrongly accused of being a whole host of incredibly nasty things. harvey, look, you very now look, thank you very much. now i understand that you think it is, quote, absurd that this individual should be named, which is something that i was asserting yesterday . and i asserting yesterday. and i completely get your your view on that. you do think that they that. but you do think that they should throw a press conference to out themselves , is that right ? >> well, thank you for inviting me on. >> yes . yes, i respect you, but >> yes. yes, i respect you, but you were wrong yesterday when you were wrong yesterday when you suggested that a member of parliament should use parliamentary privilege to name this person. >> he definitely should not.
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>> he definitely should not. >> it would be an abuse of parliamentary privilege. if anyone did . i parliamentary privilege. if anyone did. i think parliamentary privilege. if anyone did . i think that that no anyone did. i think that that no one should name this person if you remember tom watson went and used parliamentary privilege in parliament to disastrous consequences and started a moral panic which went everywhere. so what i do think is this following from my own personal experience , yes, i know that my experience, yes, i know that my experience, yes, i know that my experience is slightly different in that the allegations made against me were far worse than the ones that have been made against the bbc. presenter but what i think he should consider doing is what i did. fed up with tittle tattle smears and stains
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and allegations as being placed in the public arena by the metropolitan police, by the bbc, by the way , and other media, by the way, and other media, television and radio commentators. what he should consider doing is throw a press conference, as i did, and put all the facts in the public arena . if he is innocent . arena. if he is innocent. >> so that's interesting because you obviously had no problem doing that . so would you be doing that. so would you be surprised if he doesn't do that ? do you think that do you think that that would maybe pose. i am not i am not going to put any pressure on him to do anything . pressure on him to do anything. >> it is a matter for him . what >> it is a matter for him. what i do know is the pain and the aggravation and the horror that will be going through his mind
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and that of his family and would not wish to add any pain to that. it is a matter for him. but if he was seeking my advice, then i would suggest he throws a press conference at the earliest opportunity . opportunity. >> and what happened when you threw a press conference? you managed to put your side of it out there and get ahead of the story. and did it make things infinitely better ? infinitely better? >> i'm not sure i got ahead of the story. >> the story was well underway. yeah the metropolitan police had already said that my accuser was credible and true when he was incredible and untrue and the media would taking every drip, drip from the metropolitan police as gospel. after my press conference, there was a better balance and the media did not believe of the metropolitan
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police and certainly didn't believe of carl beech , my believe of carl beech, my accuser. i think that he should consider that he may not he may think that he will never be identified . i think in terms of identified. i think in terms of the media, he probably will be. but for him to take the initial lviv. okay. guess the narrative that will be my advice . that will be my advice. >> well, look, harvey, thank you.thank >> well, look, harvey, thank you. thank you very much. it is always a pleasure talking to you. i really enjoy our conversations . and certainly conversations. and certainly when this particular when it comes to this particular topic well, you're your topic as well, you're your insights as well as harvey proctor is the former conservative party mp. now it's a big day for the government's plans to tackle the migrant crisis. the illegal migration bill is being debated. are 10,000 seekers could be 10,000 asylum seekers could be given exemption from being deported to rwanda and people are potentially being urged to take some of them into their own homes. patrick christys on gb news business news channel. a
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brighter outlook with boxed solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news afternoon , i'm alex on. gb news afternoon, i'm alex deakin with your latest forecast from the met office for gb news sunny spells again tomorrow and again you will be dodging the downpour. >> some very heavy showers around and a fairly cool breeze. it's low pressure that continues to dominate. this one's been tracking across the country. this weather front clearing away from the south—east. but in its wake, still plenty of showers moving through for most on a fairly brisk breeze, but slow moving . heavy downpours across moving. heavy downpours across northern and bringing northern scotland and bringing some torrential rain for time some torrential rain for a time . some more rain will push back across ireland into across northern ireland into southern scotland and northern england night. but england through the night. but a good england and wales good chunk of england and wales will dry and clear will actually turn dry and clear with temperatures dropping to about degrees. now much of about 1314 degrees. now much of the midlands eastern and southern england will start off with some sunshine tomorrow, but there already be a lot of there will already be a lot of cloud and showery rain over northern england and southern
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scotland stay wet scotland. it'll stay fairly wet in scotland with an in northern scotland with an increasing here, more increasing breeze here, more heavy showers developing and they'll also develop elsewhere for northern ireland, parts of england and wales, although perhaps more scattered perhaps a bit more scattered than today. a better chance than today. so a better chance of some lengthier of seeing some lengthier dry spells, chance of seeing spells, better chance of seeing a bit more sunshine, but still on the cool side, especially in the around the breeze, temperatures around or average still, or a touch below average still, thursday similar story, but thursday is a similar story, but not as many showers and some areas may have a completely dry day on thursday. still 1 or 2 heavy ones, especially in eastern parts come the afternoon. but parts of wales , afternoon. but parts of wales, south—west england looking at least a bit on thursday . a least a bit drier on thursday. a brighter outlook with boxed solar proud sponsors of weather on .
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gb news. >> it's 4 pm. it's patrick christys. it's gb news. now the mother of the young person at the centre of this bbc scandal has asked the question who on earth is paying for their lawyers ? i happen to think lawyers? i happen to think that's fascinating question . that's a fascinating question. and having a look at that and are we having a look at that at hour? in other at the top of the hour? in other news, done the idea that news, we've done the idea that brits supposedly going to brits are supposedly going to throw doors open to asylum throw their doors open to asylum seekers. been to wales to seekers. we've been to wales to look locals barricading look at locals barricading migrant hotel there. now we're on 10,000 channel migrants, apparently being given an amnesty to remain in this country. is that another capitulation? but get a load of this. what's going on in your schools? okay apparently children are being taught things like critical race theory. they're being taught about racial differences . this is racial differences. this is doing more, in my view, to divide us than bring us together. i think it's together. and i think it's indoctrination. we're also going to be discussing this one as well. the bbc rich list is out, apparently. gary lineker is getting something like £1.3 million year. well maybe, just million a year. well maybe, just maybe, that's value for money.
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what do you think? gb views at gb views .com. patrick christys on gb news. let's go . yes. well on gb news. let's go. yes. well lawyers certainly aren't cheap, are they? so we'll be having a look into all of that in relation to the bbc scandal. do you think it's right that 10,000 channel migrants should be given an amnesty in order to help get this illegal migration bill through? is that a sign of yet another capitulation? gb views our gbnews.com. but now it's your headlines rory . your headlines with rory. >> thank you very much, patrick, the chairman of ofcom says he doubts the allegations involving an unnamed bbc presenter will become a matter for the media regulator. >> baron michael grid said the bbc's board must take full responsibility for the crisis. the bbc has paused its investigation while police look
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into possible criminal activity . obe, a lawyer for the young man who is now aged 20, says nothing unlawful happened . nothing unlawful happened. >> well, separately , the bbc has >> well, separately, the bbc has published details of its highest paid stars as part of its annual report . report. >> gary lineker remains the corporation's top paid presenter, taking home more than £1.35 million. zoe ball is the highest paid female presenter , highest paid female presenter, earning more than £980,000. salaries paid through the bbc's commercial arm or independent production companies do not have to be disclosed . covid. to be disclosed. covid. >> ukraine president says it's absurd not to set a time frame for his country's nato membership , where leaders are membership, where leaders are currently discussing the alliance at a summit in lithuania . lithuania. >> president zelenskyy says the uncertainty provides motivation for russia to continue its terror . terror. >> general secretary jens stoltenberg insists ukraine will
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be given security guarantees , as be given security guarantees, as i also expect that allies will send a clear and positive message on the path forward towards membership for ukraine. >> i have proposed a package of three elements with more practise able support with a multi—year programme to ensure full interoperability between the ukrainian forces and the nato forces. this was move. this will move ukraine closer to nato i >> -- >> joe biden's former chief of staff, susan platt, told gb news the us will continue to back ukraine in its war against russia , but nato membership russia, but nato membership won't happen until the conflict is over . is over. >> the us has done everything they can in support of the war in ukraine against putin's army and will continue to do that . i and will continue to do that. i think there's time for everything and i think it's great that we now have really a pretty much of a brick wall by including finland and sweden.
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thank you to mr erdogan joining the nato alliance against russia month been found to have killed a nine year old girl as she played outside the shop where her mother was working . her mother was working. >> lilia valutati died from a single stab wound to the chest in boston last july. >> 23 year old devadas skybus was charged with her murder but deemed unfit to stand trial due to his mental health. >> he's expected to be given a hospital order. the only possible sentence mps are considering amendments to the illegal migration bill as the government attempts to get it through the house of commons. >> these changes include limiting the detention periods of unaccompanied children and pregnant women , and the pregnant women, and the legislation will no longer be used retrospectively against people already here in the uk . people already here in the uk. >> well, immigration minister robert jenrick told mps he disagrees with many of the changes proposed, describing
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happens. now, though, news. we'll bring you more as it happens . now, though, back to news. we'll bring you more as it happens. now, though, back to . patrick >> we're going straight in with some big breaking news on the bbc. presenter alleged to have paid a young person for sexually explicit photographs . i'm going explicit photographs. i'm going to go straight to our reporter, mark white, who's outside new broadcasting house. mark, i understand that there are some new claims that have just emerged. what is it? yes bbc news now. >> reporter saying that a second young person has come forward and made allegations against the same presenter at the centre of these allegations . as it's been these allegations. as it's been reported that this person in their early 20s had been contacted and enormously by the presenter over a dating app . and
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presenter over a dating app. and now this young person has told bbc news that they then came under pressure to meet up with this individual. they said that when the young person hinted onune when the young person hinted online that they might name the presenter, they were then sent abusive and expletive filled messages pages. now we should add, according to bbc news , that add, according to bbc news, that this person is not connected to the person that made those allegations or didn't make the allegations, but whose family members made allegations . on the members made allegations. on the 18th of may about this presenter and the sending of explicit images and the payment allegedly of money to this individual . we of money to this individual. we should also add that this person at the centre of the initial allegations denies those
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allegations denies those allegations made by a family member describing them as rubbish. but this second allegation now is clearly very significant and it explains perhaps why earlier today on the world at one on bbc radio four, when the director general , tim when the director general, tim davie, was being interviewed, he was asked specifically if he knew of any other allegations that had been made against at this high profile bbc presenter tim davie avoided that question effectively by saying that it would be inappropriate to comment given that there is a metropolitan police scoping exercise underway to determine whether there should be a formal criminal investigation launched into those allegations as those initial allegations is now indeed.
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>> and this is this is just breaking . now. i'm just going to breaking. now. i'm just going to read a couple of i'm just going to read. we come back to me i'm going to read a couple of points here from this report which has just landed. now after the two who had first connected on the dating app, the conversation moved to other platforms at this stage, the presenter revealed his identity and told the young person not to tell anyone. this is according to the bbc's report . okay. later, the young person alluded online to having contact with a bbc presenter and implied that they would name him at some point . the presenter reacted by point. the presenter reacted by sending a number of threatening messages, which the bbc news has seen. messages, which the bbc news has seen . bbc news has been able to seen. bbc news has been able to verify that the messages were sent from a phone number below , sent from a phone number below, longing to the presenter. the bbc has also come out and said that the new allegations of menacing and bullying behaviour by the high profile presenter
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raise fresh questions about his conduct and bbc news has contacted the presenter directly and via his lawyer , but has and via his lawyer, but has received no response to the latest allegations. i'm just going to bring mark white back in now. mark our reporter who's outside side new broadcasting house for us. mark, thank you very much. yes. so essentially, yes, the bbc is saying this raises fresh questions about this individual's conduct and though the point of difference here, arguably between the initial allegations and these onesis initial allegations and these ones is the speed with which the bbc have reacted to this, they have come out straight away and said, bbc news has contacted the presenter directly and via his lawyer, but has as yet received no to latest no response to the latest allegations. and frankly, this story is not going away, is it? yeah i think we need to make the distinction here though. >> this is bbc news. independently investigating the story. just as we are and bbc corporate. we have heard nothing
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from bbc management about with regard to this bbc management who are now coming under some serious questioning with regard to the slow pace it seems, of that initial investigation into the allegations that were made. first of all, on the 18th of may that resulted in, first of all, an email being sent that got no reply. and then two and a half weeks passing before a phone call was made that didn't connect. and then no further phone calls were made until the sun came , contacted the bbc with sun came, contacted the bbc with the news that they were going to splash the allegations. the next again day. only at that point did bbc manm government speak to this presenter. so clearly some very serious questions for bbc management to answer on this and they have not. certainly according to that article , just according to that article, just reading it like you, patrick
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made any comment event thus far, but the bbc news independent of the management structure here, have reached out to the presenter directly asking for comment through either him or through the lawyers and has received nothing back at this stage but a significant and a serious development and allegation that's being made and it may well be that that also is included in this scoping exercise that the metropolitan police is carrying out, because specifically that this young person making this allegation talks about being quite fearful. now in response to the communications that this person received and the fact that those communications were abusive and expletive laden, there may well, in that sense then be an offence that has taken place , something
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that has taken place, something of course, for the police to consider in this scoping exercise that they're carrying out. but i think clear a very significant development in this case with bbc news, independent of the corporate structure here in investigating the story, like everyone else speaking to another young individual who has come forward and made completely separate allegations to those made on the 18th of may, let's just take a little bit of a step back again, just in terms of the previous allegations that had been doing the rounds now for the last few days, mark, tim davie, the bbc director—general gave an interview earlier on and ed, he confirmed, as i believe the police have confirmed , the police have confirmed, scotland yard have confirmed that they've asked the bbc to stop their internal investigation into that first raft of allegations. >> well , what the police do >> well, what the police do a scoping exercise. so just recap
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that for us, if that's . okay that for us, if that's. okay >> yes. so that is where they are at the moment in terms of being able to continue with the internal investigation into the allegations that were received. it doesn't stop them . of course, it doesn't stop them. of course, looking into their own internal structures about what they did more generally in dealing with complaints and saying that clearly , as far as flagging up, clearly, as far as flagging up, you know , allegations that are you know, allegations that are serious in nature further up the chain , then perhaps there are chain, then perhaps there are lessons to be learned a bit of an understatement, maybe that they need to then address it worth. i think just briefly going through, if we can, patrick, that timeline from the initial complaint that was made on the 18th of may, the complaint that a family member of the person at the centre of
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the allegations turned up, we were told at a bbc build thing where they made a complaint about the behaviour of a bbc presenter. now on the 19th of may, the complainant contacted bbc audience services again, reiterating that complaint and it was passed on to corporate investors . lviv services . the investors. lviv services. the investigations team carried out their own initial assessment . their own initial assessment. they assessed that that complaint was serious , but they complaint was serious, but they also maintained that there was no allegation of criminality, but they then emailed the complainant did not get a reply to their email. but then complainant did not get a reply to their email . but then after to their email. but then after that waited another two and a half weeks and takes us forward now to the 6th of june. on the 6th of june, the telephoned the
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complainant that call didn't connect and then they made no effort, it seems to contact either by email or telephone call to the complainant and till the sun contacted them on the 19th or i should say on the 6th of july, just the day before these allegations were splashed across the sun last friday. and it was at that point that they then spoke to the presenter at then spoke to the presenter at the centre of the allegations. mark thank you very, very much. >> that's mark white. there is outside new broadcasting house for us. any updates and excuse me is reasonable to expect that there may well be some very shortly we will go back to mark white if you are just joining us, just going to recap that us, i'm just going to recap that breaking line that emerged moments okay a young person moments ago. okay a young person has told bbc news they felt threatened by by the bbc presenter . threatened by by the bbc presenter. so this is a second young person who is coming
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forward with allegations about an as yet unnamed bbc presenter . they said that they felt threatened by the bbc presenter the individual is in their early 20s. they were first contacted anonymously by the presenter on anonymously by the presenter on a dating app. this is all according to bbc reports. they say they were put under pressure to meet up, but never did. when the young person hinted online that they might name the presenter, they were sent abuse lviv expletive filled messages as the young person who has spoken to bbc news and it's important to say , has no important to say, has no connection . they are saying to connection. they are saying to the person who's at the centre of the sun stories that have been dropping in recent days. they said that they had been scared by the power that the presenter had . they said that presenter had. they said that the threats made in the messages had frightened them and they remain scared. the new allegations of and i'm quoting
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now, menacing and bullying behaviour by the high profile presenter raise fresh questions about his conduct . apparently about his conduct. apparently the bbc presenter in question has been contacted both directly and via his lawyers, who at this moment in time are not understood either of them to have responded to those claims . have responded to those claims. what is interesting is that the bbc is saying that they have seen the messages which are described as threatening . and described as threatening. and that they have been able to verify that the messages were sent from a phone number belonging to the presenter and that the young person's initial onune that the young person's initial online posts has also been seen by bbc news. and so that is the latest. mark r humza yousaf editor who has been outside new broadcasting house for us. did say that tim davie, the director general of the bbc, who was giving an interview earlier on, was asked not any was asked whether or not any other allegations have been put against the unnamed bbc
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presenter and he kind of dodged that question . and here we are that question. and here we are now. that is the new line, now. so that is the new line, which that the bbc presenter which is that the bbc presenter centre abusive and menacing messages to a second young person . we'll have lots more on person. we'll have lots more on this story very, very shortly. we will get more for you right now actually on our website gbnews.com. it is the fastest growing national news website in the country. it's got the best analysis, opinion and all analysis, big opinion and all of the news as the latest breaking news as well. look, just as a little aside, we are, of course, still campaigning to stop the uk becoming a cashless society. the campaign is called don't kill cash very, popular. we've cash. very, very popular. we've got than 100 and sorry, got more than 100 and sorry, 205,000 of you signing that petition now. great stuff. the petition now. great stuff. the petition is on website as petition is on our website as gbnews.com forward slash cash. if got smartphone, use if you've got a smartphone, use it click qr that you it. click that qr code that you will your screens. right will see on your screens. right now watching on now if you're watching us on telly online, hope news telly or online, hope gb news with tell those with our campaign to tell those authorities to dodi not kill cash. look in the next few moments i will ask whether the government is right to change
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the illegal migration bill. what they do apparently, they want to do apparently, apparently give 10,000 apparently is give 10,000 channel migrants protection from being sent to rwanda. is that okay? they should that happen, is that a massive cop out? and of course, i will have much more for you on that breaking line. the bbc presenter in question sent abusive and menacing messages to a second young person. that's the very latest, but more after your weather . a but more after your weather. a brighter outlook with boxed solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news afternoon . on. gb news afternoon. >> i'm alex deakin with your latest forecast from the met office for gb news sunny spells again tomorrow and again you will be dodging the downpour. some very heavy showers around and a fairly cool breeze. it's low that continues to low pressure that continues to dominate. one's been dominate. this one's been tracking across the country. this front clearing away this weather front clearing away from south—east. but in its from the south—east. but in its wake, still plenty of showers moving through for most on a fairly brisk breeze, but slow
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moving . heavy downpours across moving. heavy downpours across northern and bringing northern scotland and bringing some torrential rain for a time . some more rain will push back across ireland across northern ireland into southern and northern southern scotland and northern england through the night. but a good of england and wales good chunk of england and wales will dry and clear will actually turn dry and clear with temperatures dropping to about now much of about 1314 degrees. now much of the midlands eastern and southern england will start off with some sunshine tomorrow, but there will already be a lot of cloud and showery over cloud and showery rain over northern england and southern scotland . it'll stay fairly wet scotland. it'll stay fairly wet in northern scotland with an increasing here, more increasing breeze here, more heavy showers developing and they'll also develop elsewhere for northern ireland, parts of england and wales, although perhaps more scattered perhaps a bit more scattered than today. so better chance than today. so a better chance of lengthier dry of seeing some lengthier dry spells, chance of seeing spells, better chance of seeing a bit more sunshine, but still on the cool side, especially in the temperatures the breeze, temperatures around or average . still, or a touch below average. still, thursday's story , but thursday's a similar story, but not as showers and some not as many showers and some areas may have a completely dry day on thursday. still 1 or 2 heavy ones, especially in eastern parts come the afternoon. but parts of wales ,
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afternoon. but parts of wales, south—west england looking at least bit drier thursday . a least a bit drier on thursday. a brighter outlook with boxed solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> well, the government is apparently thinking about giving apparently thinking about giving a total amnesty to 10,000 channel migrants to make sure they don't go to rwanda in a bid to get this illegal migration bill. unlike some flights to rwanda, it would seem off the ground. i'll be talking about all of that. i'll also be returning to the idea about all of that. i'll also be returningor) the idea about all of that. i'll also be returningor note idea about all of that. i'll also be returningor not you a about all of that. i'll also be returningor not you wouldt an whether or not you would take an asylum your own asylum seeker into your own home. will be having home. and we will be having a lot breaking lot more on that breaking news that press centre sent that the bbc press centre sent abusive menacing messages . abusive and menacing messages. as a second young person comes forward and we'll be talking to a lawyer on whether or not or indeed how someone might be paying indeed how someone might be paying for an individual's legal fees. more on this very shortly. patrick christys on gb news. britain's news
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tv, radio and online gb news. britain's news . tv, radio and online gb news. britain's news. channel a reminder of this hour's big breaking news. >> the bbc presenter alleged to have paid a young person for sexually explicit photos is now facing a claim from a second young person . the bbc is young person. the bbc is reporting that the presenter sent what have been called a number of threatening messages. it says that the young person felt threatened by the messages and quote, remains scared. i will be discussing that shortly. i will also be talking to a
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legal expert who is going to hopefully answer some questions that the mother of one of the young people involved in all of this floated in the press yesterday, which is how are the legal fees being paid ? and i legal fees being paid? and i think that is a fascinating question, which hopefully we will be able to get some idea of as this story rumbles on. but there is another story in town which i'm going to go to before we continue with that. the illegal migration is being illegal migration bill is being debated today. debated in the commons today. now i'm sure that a lot of you will be sick and tired of heanng will be sick and tired of hearing this, there an hearing this, but there is an important concession which i think of you think will get a lot of you quite it's the quite wound up. it's the centrepiece the government's centrepiece of the government's plans to tackle the migrant crisis. more crisis. as we all know, more than now than 13,000 migrants have now crossed channel this crossed the channel so far this yean crossed the channel so far this year, including 6600in the last four days alone. but the government a number of government has made a number of changes to the bill because rmps and our lords are frankly doing us all a great national disservice this and not sorting this out for us. now, they want to include supposedly an amnesty
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for more than 10,000 migrants who arrived before it becomes law . i am who arrived before it becomes law. i am joined by the uk immigration lawyer hardeep singh hijab. thank you very, very much . your reaction . to the a 10,000 . your reaction. to the a 10,000 person channel migrant amnesty as a way of trying to get this through the commons and the lords . lords. >> yeah, effectively, effectively as part of this legislation, what it was , it was legislation, what it was, it was to be anybody who's come after march 2023 and since then 10,000 people have come. >> so effectively they could have been sent back to rwanda. >> the new amendment that >> but the new amendment that said, well, this won't take place and it will be anybody coming after the law has passed. i mean , you know, disregarding i mean, you know, disregarding all of that , there's only 500 all of that, there's only 500 places in rwanda anyway. so sending 10,000 people to a place where there's only 500, it's a bit like saying i want to, you know, fit a size of a football ground into a two bedroom flat. and that's just not going to
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happen. so to tend to send 10,000 people to rwanda under the current capacity will take 22 years. so i think this is a bit of a smokescreen and a non—starter, really. but it's just something to show that they're conceding . rishi sunak they're conceding. rishi sunak wants to get this through. you know, it's one of the pledges that he's made. suella braverman wants to get this through the lords are having it in its lords are not having it in its current form. so they're going back and forth offering some concessions and rishi sunak hopes to get this through. finally yeah. >> and indeed could actually, i would imagine, lead to a surge because if they're saying that this won't actually come into force, if there's an amnesty that won't end until the point where this actually becomes law. i mean, if anyone in calais at the moment or dunkirk even cares about the possibility of being sent to rwanda, which i am becoming increasingly sceptical about, do , about, whether or not they do, then they're going be then they're going to be desperate get next desperate to get on the next possible they? possible boat, aren't they? to be of an amnesty ? be part of an amnesty? >> i think regardless of verandah policy or not, we saw
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this weekend there were a record number crossings this number of crossings this weekend, don't think the weekend, so i don't think the rwanda is acting rwanda policies is acting as much as a deterrent as maybe the government thinks it is. i don't think it's acting as a deterrent at all. and, you know, if something acts as a deterrent, you expect to numbers go you expect to see numbers go down, . so i think the down, not go up. so i think the government has to rethink its strategy. rwanda is strategy. the fear of rwanda is not stopping the migrants. it's definitely not stopping the people smugglers. they don't care whether you send people to rwanda, usa or timbuktu. rwanda, to the usa or timbuktu. they're not really worried about that. they're getting paid either way. so the government really have to rethink their strategy. and more importantly, they've got to stop making promises they can't keep promises which they can't keep because every time they bring out legislation, they out a bit of legislation, they raise the hopes of the british pubuc raise the hopes of the british public that they're public that perhaps they're doing something. and know doing something. and we know it's to happen. it's just not going to happen. >> this the >> well, yeah, but this is the thing, actually thing, though, and actually i am becoming annoyed, thing, though, and actually i am becomirwasn't annoyed, thing, though, and actually i am becomirwasn't sure annoyed, thing, though, and actually i am becomirwasn't sure was nnoyed, thing, though, and actually i am becomirwasn't sure was possible which i wasn't sure was possible given how enraged i normally am about this kind of story anyway. but increasingly annoyed but can be increasingly annoyed
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by this is now a political problem, right? this is now over a problem between the 650 odd mps that we've got and how many people are in the house of lords thatis people are in the house of lords that is affecting every single joe there on the joe bloggs out there on the street. because they can't street. and because they can't sort we are all in one way sort this, we are all in one way or another suffering . and it or another suffering. and it winds me right up that there is this and then now there's okay, well be this well it's going to be this concession supposedly, and i know is just the know that this is just the kind of really, of paper concession really, because weren't going to send because we weren't going to send 10,000 rwanda anyway. 10,000 people to rwanda anyway. but you a little you but then you make a little you move, little on move, you move a little inch on that. what's other that. and then what's the other concession goes forward? that. and then what's the other concthen n goes forward? that. and then what's the other concthen when goes forward? that. and then what's the other concthen when does forward? that. and then what's the other concthen when does fonof'd? that. and then what's the other concthen when does fonof this and then when does all of this come you know, there come in? and, you know, there was report out earlier on that was a report out earlier on that was a report out earlier on that was basically talking about whether know, whether or not, you know, people in suburbs a in your leafy suburbs with a mansion load of rooms mansion and a load of rooms should be making way to open their for asylum their own doors for asylum seekers. if seekers. i mean, it'd be nice if they that maybe try to they did that and maybe try to take off the take the burden off the taxpayer, shouldn't have taxpayer, but it shouldn't have come now just come to that. and it is now just just genuinely a problem that is taking westminster taking place in westminster because he's numpties get because he's numpties can't get their together get it their heads together and get it sorted affecting
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sorted and it's affecting the nafion sorted and it's affecting the nation anyway. hardship. i've ianed nation anyway. hardship. i've invited just rant at invited you on just to rant at you, i'm afraid, because we are invited you on just to rant at you ofm afraid, because we are invited you on just to rant at you of time,iid, because we are invited you on just to rant at you of time, butbecause we are invited you on just to rant at you of time, but thank.e we are invited you on just to rant at you of time, but thank you. are out of time, but thank you. that's he's that's all right. it's. he's used by hard. thank used to me by now. hard. thank you, care. all right you, mate. take care. all right . harjot bongo uk . harjot singh, bongo uk immigration. just reacting to that 10,000 migrant amnesty. apparently that's taking place. look, we will have more very shortly. quick recap this shortly. just quick recap this this huge breaking news regarding the bbc regarding the unnamed bbc presenter. a second individual regarding the unnamed bbc prescome a second individual regarding the unnamed bbc prescome forward|d individual regarding the unnamed bbc prescome forward and dividual regarding the unnamed bbc prescome forward and bbcual regarding the unnamed bbc prescome forward and bbc news has come forward and bbc news has come forward and bbc news has seen a number of what they are calling threatening messages as and they have contacted the unnamed bbc presenter in question. they are yet to hear anything, but it is now second allegations coming forward against this presenter. how long can this person remain unnamed? ihave can this person remain unnamed? i have got a legal expert on in just a tick when i come back to talk about that and who is maybe paying talk about that and who is maybe paying the legal fees of the first young person who came forward. but right now is your headunes forward. but right now is your headlines with rory .
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headlines with rory. >> thank you very much , patrick. >> thank you very much, patrick. >> thank you very much, patrick. >> well, as you've been hearing breaking news this hour, a second person has come forward to make a complaint against the bbc. presenter accused of paying for sexually explicit photos. the broadcaster says it spoke to a person in their early 20s who said they were sent a number of threatening messages. it comes after they were first contacted anonymously by the presenter on anonymously by the presenter on a dating app. the person was allegedly put under pressure to meet the bbc star, but never did . speaking to bbc news, the second young person who's not involved in the previous payments for photos allegation said they remain scared by the power. the presenter holds . power. the presenter holds. well, separately, the bbc has published details of its highest paid stars as part of its annual report. gary lineker remains the corporation's top paid presenter, taking home more . presenter, taking home more. than £1.35 million. zoe ball is
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the highest paid female presenter , earning more than presenter, earning more than £980,000. salaries paid through the bbc's commercial arm or through independent production companies do not have to be disclosed , paid . ukraine's disclosed, paid. ukraine's president says it's absurd not to set a time frame for his country's nato membership, where leaders are currently discussing the alliance at a summit in lithuania . the president, lithuania. the president, zelenskyy, says the uncertainty provides motivation for russia to continue its terror . a man to continue its terror. a man has been found to have killed a nine year old girl as she played outside the shop where her mother was working . lilia mother was working. lilia valutati died from a single stab wound to the chest in boston last july . 23 year old davidas last july. 23 year old davidas skybus was charged with her murder but deemed unfit to stand trial due to his mental health. he's expected to be given a hospital order. the only possible sentence that's you up
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to date, but you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website. that is gbnews.com. now, though, back to . now, though, back to. patrick right? >> more now on the bbc presenter alleged to have paid a young person for sexually explicit photos who is now facing a claim from a second young person in the bbc is reporting that the presenter sent what have been called a number of threatening messages. it says the young person felt threatened and still remains . so this is the remains scared. so this is the latest developments in a story that broke last friday. now, an initial complaint was made to the bbc by a member of the young person's family on may the 18th. a day later for a corporate investigations team assessed that complaint. it's assessed that complaint. it's assessed that the information did not include an allegation of criminality, but that it was serious. the team emailed the
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complainant but got no response . this is what they claim. two and a half weeks later, bbc investigators say that they rang the complainant, but that the call didn't connect . at then. call didn't connect. at then. last thursday , bbc investigators last thursday, bbc investigators finally spoke to the presenter following allegations in the sun . okay, so that prompted obviously this story to come out. it prompted a lot of calls for the individual to either be named or to name themselves . the named or to name themselves. the breaking news as of around half an hour ago is this a second young person has come forward . young person has come forward. the bbc has seen what it is calling threatening messages, and they have been able to verify that they come from the number from the presenter . and number from the presenter. and these are the claims , of course, these are the claims, of course, this is now you know, a drip, drip, drip. isn't it really? and isuppose drip, drip. isn't it really? and i suppose the question will be what next? i am joined now by the media lawyerjonathan coe. jonathan, thank you very much. great to have you on. so i
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initially wanted you on to talk about the claims by the mother of the first young person who was asking the question , who was asking the question, who could be paying their legal fees and i will start with that, if that's okay. how could this be working? because cause i would imagine lawyers, reputable lawyers certainly don't come cheap. your thoughts . cheap. your thoughts. >> it's a very good question. and i've looked up the times named the law firm and i've looked them up and they are generally seem to be not media lawyers, but lawyers who are concerned with the care of the individual . individual. >> the only thing i would say is that it may be a bit of a shocker, patrick, but there are lawyers out there who have a conscience. >> i mean, i'm a devout christian. >> i've always done pro bono work. >> i've done a lot of work for people caught up in the public eye who can't afford to pay me because they , you know, the
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because they, you know, the power of the to media wreck people's lives is very real. >> i mean, one of my clients is caroline flack . caroline flack. >> so i know from my own practise how serious these issues can be. >> so it may just be that that a lawyer with a conscience is just doing his best and isn't necessarily being paid . necessarily being paid. >> so the question may not arise i >> -- >> yes. no, that is interesting. and that's one of the reasons why i'm glad that i had you on, actually, because i think it will deemed beyond the will have been deemed beyond the realms possibility lot will have been deemed beyond the retpeople possibility lot will have been deemed beyond the retpeople that ibility lot will have been deemed beyond the retpeople that aility lot will have been deemed beyond the retpeople that a law lot will have been deemed beyond the retpeople that a law firm lot will have been deemed beyond the retpeople that a law firm has of people that a law firm has reputable as the one who's been named in the times would do anything for free. and you think there's a chance that they might be. >> so there's an old gag that goes, what's the difference between a cheap, cheap lawyer and a tooth fairy? answer there's no such thing as a cheap lawyer, actually there is a lawyer, but actually there is a small army of lawyers out there who give their time pro bono. >> they're there . solicitors and >> they're there. solicitors and barristers , so it is perfect
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barristers, so it is perfect possible that this is someone who recognises that this is a very important point, that there client is caught up in a slightly undignified battle between a murdoch newspaper and the bbc and the risk is that this person becomes collateral damage in this battle. >> so they may have just thought, well, someone needs to help and i'm prepared to do it. >> there are jonathan , as i as i >> there are jonathan, as i as i understand it anyway , no rules . understand it anyway, no rules. are there about anyone paying for somebody else's legal fees, though. so somebody somebody with with enough money to do so and some kind of interest in a story potentially could potentially be paying legal fees ? >> 7- >> that is ? >> that is absolutely right . >> that is absolutely right. there is nothing to stop person a paying the legal fees of person a, b. now they can either do it for legitimate charitable reasons. and strangely enough,
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such things do happen or they can do it for reasons to protect themselves. so you're quite right. another there are three possible parties this individual for some reason, is able to fund their own legal fees or possibly a member, a member of their family is doing so. a member, a member of their family is doing so . secondly, family is doing so. secondly, the lawyers doing it pro bono are free of charge. the third possibility is that someone either for fair reasons or foul, is paying the bills . is paying the bills. >> okay. right now, let's just shift things on briefly, if that's okay. jonathan on because i would quite like to pick your brains about these this latest breaking line actually, is breaking line actually, which is i'll just just read out i'll just i'll just read out what got here. and it's on i'll just i'll just read out th’bbc got here. and it's on i'll just i'll just read out th’bbc website.a. and it's on i'll just i'll just read out th’bbc website. bbcd it's on i'll just i'll just read out th’bbc website. bbc presenter the bbc website. bbc presenter sent menacing sent abusive and menacing messages young messages to a second young person. claiming that person. the bbc is claiming that they're seeing these messages. the involved feels the individual involved feels frightened, scared frightened, still remains scared to this day. this is a killer line for me here. bbc news, which is important to an important distinction between the bbc corporate and bbc, bbc news make that very clear. bbc
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news make that very clear. bbc news has contacted the presenter directly his lawyer, but directly and via his lawyer, but has received no response. the latest allegations? well, there contacting somebody who works for them right. contacting somebody who works for them right . and they have for them right. and they have not received any response yet. if you are if you were the lawyer for the individual in question, what would you be saying? because this just have a drip, drip, drip feel about it now, doesn't it ? now, doesn't it? >> if i was represent thing the individual in question i'd be probably drinking a lot of brandy and trying to think of a way of going abroad for a long period. i mean it must be every kind of nightmare. and is kind of nightmare. and it is also a situation i've been in. i mean, not quite as bad this, mean, not quite as bad as this, but i've certainly represented high profile individuals in this kind storm. so it's very kind of storm. so it's very difficult to say what they might be saying because it depends an awful lot on what they know or also what they're being told. i mean, i'm phillip schofield lawyer and it is very much in
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the public domain that i made a denial to the mail on sunday of a story concerning philip, which turned out to be an untrue denial . now, all of us who are denial. now, all of us who are conscientious lawyers are very keen . not to send out letters or keen. not to send out letters or emails or whatever with information that isn't true , information that isn't true, too. so i imagine that this lawyer is doing his best or her best to try and find out really what's going on. but the other point is that from the lawyers perspective, you may or may not be getting a response from from the client. we don't know whether the client's responding to telephone calls, emails or anything . so it's difficult to anything. so it's difficult to put your self in the shoes of the lawyer without knowing more detail about what what the situation is . situation is. >> i just want to one final one with you while i've got you, jonathan. if that's all right, because people in my position occasionally end up talking to people like you before, before
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we come on air, and then there's a big question mark, which i think rears its head again now about right to privacy versus pubuc about right to privacy versus public interest. does is a second allegation an shift? anything for you ? and this of anything for you? and this of course, centres around whether or not the individual in question should be named . question should be named. >> well, no, it doesn't because the same principles apply. >> well, no, it doesn't because the same principles apply . the the same principles apply. the bafic the same principles apply. the basic rule is that until allegations are proven rightly or wrongly, the law says that the individual's ambit of privacy allows them not to be the public subject of allegations unless and until there is a police investigation . and there's a there's an arrest and a charge. now the bbc is position is slightly different. perhaps because if
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they have seen these exchanges, then i think they're in a different position from the earlier one where i don't think they've seen all the evidence. they now actually have the evidence and they've seen it. i suspect they are going to have meetings with their lawyers on the basis of, well, now we have this information . now do we now this information. now do we now have to say who this individual is? jonathan i really appreciate this. >> thank you very much. it's been fascinating. and know been fascinating. and i know that viewers our that our viewers and our listeners have appreciated listeners will have appreciated that as jonathan code that as well as jonathan code there, media lawyer. there, who is a media lawyer. look now to look i'm going to go now to tweet mark is tweet to mark white, who is outside broadcasting outside new broadcasting house, us , ma, thank much us look, ma, thank you very much for yes. okay so for coming back on. yes. okay so the latest, please. there was a bit breaking news earlier on, bit of breaking news earlier on, wasn't it? yeah >> yeah. i mean, i think on the face of it, the new allegations as as reported by bbc news, seem to be pretty significant in this overall story . a young person . overall story. a young person. in their early 20 was reporting
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that they have or alleging that they had met at the presenter through a dating app that that dating app conversation moved on to other platforms at some stage. the presenter , according stage. the presenter, according to this young person, had then revealed their true identity later on after decline , winning later on after decline, winning an invitation to meet this presenter or that young person . presenter or that young person. according to bbc news , had according to bbc news, had posted on an online platform alluding to the fact that they had been in conversation and met at least online with a prominent bbc presenter , and that they bbc presenter, and that they might name this person. it was at that point, according to bbc news , that according to this news, that according to this young person, the presenter was
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sending abusive and threatening messages. now, here is a key point in what the bbc are reporting. i think they said that they have seen those messages and bbc news, they claim has been able to verify that the messages were sent from a phone number below longing to the presenter . they've also seen the presenter. they've also seen that young person's online post. so given that and you've got to take, of course, bbc news's reporting at face value, you would expect them to have done due diligence and to, you know, have absolutely made sure that they have checked out the story as best they can before putting these new explosive allegations out there. this is clearly a very significant development. >> yeah, mark, thank you very much. mark white, there, our reporter who's at the scene , a reporter who's at the scene, a new broadcasting house. look
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more on this as we get it. second, allegations gone in now . does it make even more . does it make it even more untenable that the identity of the embroil in all of the individual embroil in all of this hidden ? will this can remain hidden? will that change the state of play? loads more on this very, very shortly. patrick christys on gb news, britain's news .
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8 pm. on. gb news. >> yeah. just a reminder , of >> yeah. just a reminder, of course, of our top story there, which is that a second young person has now made allegations about as yet unnamed bbc presenter. these involve abusive and menacing messages. but we do have time to squeeze in one more story for you. the bbc has released its annual report, which reveals how much his biggest stars are paid. gary lineker has topped the list for a in a row, earning a sixth year in a row, earning 1.35 million in the last financial year. gb news is south—east of england. reporter ray allison can talk us through it yes, we have it now. ray. yes, we have finally you. sorry, my finally got to you. sorry, my good man. what's going on? >> it's down it's >> well, i mean, it's down it's down from the previous year. >> much. grand. down, >> not by much. 100 grand. down, down from 5.7 million to 5.6 for the top ten paid. >> and of course , in there, >> and of course, in there, number one, it's his sixth year in a row . gary number one, it's his sixth year in a row. gary lineker, match of the day present here and he's. on £1.35 million a year. a cool 1.35. he did actually take a
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voluntary pay cut in 2020. >> he was originally on 1.75 million a year cost of living crisis . crisis. >> yes, exactly. >> yes, exactly. >> we've all got to make cuts. >> we've all got to make cuts. >> zoe balls just below him. >> zoe balls just below him. >> she's on 985,000. >> she's on 985,000. >> of course, the radio one, rather, the radio two breakfast show now showing my age there. and i've been working out how many licence fees need to be sort of sold to pay for some of these salaries. >> of course, for gary, it's around 8500 for zoe , we're all around 8500 for zoe, we're all the way down to 6194. >> so rather, rather a lot, of course. and alan shearer, i can see on there as well . see on there as well. >> yeah, he's in the third slot. >> yeah, he's in the third slot. >> he's actually taken a five grand pay cut from from last yeah grand pay cut from from last year. he's on £450,000 a year. of course , mr lineker's pundit of course, mr lineker's pundit on match of the day 2830. license fee payers required . license fee payers required. £159 a pop and of course, you
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know, we've been hearing from tim davie, the director general. he he is actually on £528,000. so if he was in the top ten, if he was being paid as a presenter, he'd be in third place. >> he'd be in third place. >> he'd be in third place. >> third place. not bad . >> third place. not bad. >> third place. not bad. >> not bad. not bad. the bronze medal. not ray , thank you very, medal. not ray, thank you very, very much. it's allison very much. it's ray allison there through the bbc. there whizzing through the bbc. rich list. right. okay fast paced show, as i'm sure you're all aware , this was breaking all aware, this was breaking news. presenter alleged news. the bbc presenter alleged to paid a person for to have paid a young person for sexually is now sexually explicit photos is now facing a second claim. how much longer can that individual go unnamed? and what's round the corner? patrick christys on gb news business news channel. >> the temperature's rising . >> the temperature's rising. boxed solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news afternoon. weather on. gb news afternoon. >> i'm alex deakin with your latest forecast from the met office for gb news. sunny spells again tomorrow and again you will be dodging the downpour. some very heavy showers around and a fairly cool breeze. it's low pressure that continues to
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gb news. >> it's 5 pm. it's patrick christys. it's gb news. and it looks as though it's drip, drip, drip. at the bbc. yes. okay so there is a breaking news line about the as yet unnamed bbc presenter who is now facing allegations from a second young person , an this time over person, an this time over abusive and threatening messages . the bbc has said that they have seen those messages have contact outed the unnamed presenter and are yet to hear anything back more on this. but crucially, how much longer can their identity be kept a secret in other news, would you open your doors to an asylum seeker? a new policy is urging is urging the wealthy and the elite in the leafy parts of britain to house asylum seekers in their own
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home. do you think they'll do it? i don't. and as well the welsh are fighting back. there is an ongoing blockade . they're is an ongoing blockade. they're setting up camp quite literally . the local residents that is outside a site that's proposed to be used as a migrant hotel. this is a local community fighting back. we will be going there live very shortly. and we're also going to be discussing this as well. yes that's right. the satanist capital of britain has been revealed. it's a sleepy, small village. you wouldn't have thought it. it's like something out of hot fuzz . we'll be out of hot fuzz. we'll be talking about that. patrick christys . gb news. yeah in just christys. gb news. yeah in just a second. i'm going to take you to new broadcasting house. fresh allegations made against the same as yet unnamed bbc presenter. how much longer can this really go for ? on but right this really go for? on but right now it's your headlines. >> thank you very much, patrick.
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i'm rory smith in the gb newsroom . i'm a second person newsroom. i'm a second person has come forward to make a complaint against the bbc presenter accused of paying for sexually explicit photos . as the sexually explicit photos. as the broadcaster says it spoke to a person in their early 20s who claims they were sent a number of threatening messages. it's after they were alleged contacted by the presenter on a dating app before moving to other platforms. the person says they were put under pressure to meet the bbc star, but never did. speaking to the bbc, the second young person who was not involved in the previous payments for photos allegation said they remained scared by the power the presenter holds well, separately, the bbc has published details of its highest paid star as as part of its annual report . gary lineker annual report. gary lineker remains the corporation's top paid presenter, taking home more than £1.35 million. zoe ball is
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the highest paid female presenter , earning more than presenter, earning more than £980,000. salaries are paid through the bbc's commercial arm or through the independent production . companies don't have production. companies don't have to be disclosed . the nato chief to be disclosed. the nato chief has announced allies have agreed to three steps to bring ukraine closer to membership. jen stoltenberg says 11 nations will start training ukrainian pilots to fly f 16 jets. they've also removed the requirement for a membership action plan, making ukraine's path to becoming a nato country easier. well, in addition to this, they will create a ukraine nato council for consultation and decision making with the first meeting tomorrow. well joe biden's former chief of staff , tomorrow. well joe biden's former chief of staff, susan platt, told gb news the us will continue to back ukraine in its war against russia , but nato war against russia, but nato membership will not happen until the conflict is over . the conflict is over. >> us has done everything they can in support of the war in
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ukraine against putin's army and will continue to do that . i will continue to do that. i think there's time for everything and i think it's great that we now have really a pretty much of a brick wall by including finland and sweden. thank you to mr erdogan joining the nato alliance against russia i >> -- >>a >> a man's been found to have killed a nine year old girl as she played outside the shop where her mother was working . where her mother was working. lilia valuta died from a single stab wound to the chest in boston last july. 23 year old davida skybus was charged with a murder but deemed unfit to stand trial due to his mental health. he's expected to be given a hospital order. the only possible sentence is mps are considering amendments to the illegal migration bill as the government attempts to get it through the house of commons. changes include limiting the detention periods of unaccompanied children and pregnant women , and the pregnant women, and the legislation will no longer be
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used retrospectively against people already here in the uk . people already here in the uk. immigration minister robert jenrick told mps he disagrees with many of the changes proposed , describing them as proposed, describing them as a wrecking ball. the draft legislation suffered a record 20 defeats in the house of lords as mortgage rates have hit their highest level in 15 years, surpassed figures seen in the aftermath of last year's mini—budget. the average rate on a two year fixed deal is now 6.66, the highest level seen since the financial crisis of 2008. the bank of england raised its benchmark rate to 5% last month in an effort to bring down inflation. the european court of human rights has ruled that the two time olympic champion caster semenya was discriminated against by world athletics . the against by world athletics. the 800 metre runner has a condition which means she produces higher levels of testosterone. she was
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banned from competing after refusing to take drugs to lower her testosterone levels as well. the court ruled that this violates her human rights and she was not given sufficient safeguards. when she complained train fares could be reduced under a plan to encourage more competition in britain's railways . new research says railways. new research says allowing multiple operators to run services on the same line leads to better services, nutrients and cheaper fares. rail partners , which represents rail partners, which represents private train companies , is private train companies, is calling for open access to allow more companies to compete for customers, like in many other european countries . sgb news european countries. sgb news we'll bring you more as it happens. now, though, we'll bring you more as it happens . now, though, back to we'll bring you more as it happens. now, though, back to . patrick >> well, the presenter , bbc >> well, the presenter, bbc presenter at the centre of
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claims of inappropriate conduct is now facing a second set of allegations from a different young person. according to bbc news, the person is now in their early 20s and was subject out of threatening and abusive messages after initially making contact on a dating app . this on a dating app. this unquestionably moves the story forward and definitely raises serious questions now about whether or not this individual can continue to remain unnamed, whether or not the question of an mp using parliamentary privilege actually becomes more valid . and what indeed happens valid. and what indeed happens next and whether or not, as well, this is a moment where other people come forward. let's go now to mark white, who's outside new broadcasting house for us with the very latest mark. yes, this breaking news go on, patrick. >> there's no doubt these are explosive new allegations , ones explosive new allegations, ones that are being reported by bbc
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news at this hour. the first thing that i think we should stress is that they are completely separate to the previous allegations. it is a different person at the centre of these allegations, but they relate to a person who is in their early 20s, a person that said they met this bbc presenter on a dating app, said they met this bbc presenter on a dating app , that they came on a dating app, that they came under pressure for to meet this presenter but never did that . presenter but never did that. the conversations and interactions then moved on to other platforms arms and that at some point this person posting onune some point this person posting online even threatened to out this presenter to allude to the fact that they were speaking to a prominent bbc presenter and that they might well expose this person online. then the
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allegations go. according to bbc news, that this person says that they were contacted by multiple messages from this bbc presenter that can be described as as abusive, threatening and expletive laden and the bbc news and i think this is a key line out of what they are reporting . out of what they are reporting. they say that they have ended dependently, verified that the number depher that was used to send those messages to this person, making the allegations was from the number associated with this bbc presenter were no indeed. >> yes, absolutely. that's the very latest as we understand it. look, mark, thank you very, very much. it's mark white there. home security editor who is outside new broadcasting house. we'll be going back to mark for any updates. this story was broken or the story, i should
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say, not this specific one, but the story was broken by the sun last friday. now, today's paper quotes the mother of a young person who was involved in the initial allegation against the unnamed bbc presenter. initial allegation against the unnamed bbc presenter . and this unnamed bbc presenter. and this is the quote that really got me is the quote that really got me is that how did they afford and a lawyer since then , the story a lawyer since then, the story has moved on because we now have a second allegation. i'm joined now by the media lawyer, ian bloom. ian thank you very much. it's great to have you on the show. can i transport you for a second into the office of the unnamed bbc presenter and just ask, in light of a second allegation coming forward and in light of the fact that the bbc news have said that they have contacted the presenter and his lawyer and are yet to hear anything in response, what advice would you be giving that bbc star now .
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bbc star now. >> the first thing to say, good. good afternoon, patrick. the first thing to say is that he's clearly not my client, but i wouldn't presume to give anyone advice until i'd spoken to them at length and obtained a detailed statement to understand exactly what had happened and i don't know what has happened. none of us know what has happened.so none of us know what has happened. so the starting point is what what did happen? the second point is what do you want to achieve at the moment? the thunderclouds are rolling around your head. do you want to voluntarily speak and out yourself? do you want or do you need medical advice ? need medical advice? >> what is it that you want to achieve? >> you can't magic this away. this is developing into a major issue for yourself. for the bbc, and for your fellow presenters , and for your fellow presenters, some of whom have had to come out and say, it wasn't me . so out and say, it wasn't me. so it's a difficult thing to say . it's a difficult thing to say. what would i how would i advise
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a hypothetical client? because i don't know the facts . don't know the facts. >> no, absolutely. i do think you need to know them. >> i want to know them . and then >> i want to know them. and then you can make a reasoned judgement as to what's best out. >> no, indeed . and like you said >> no, indeed. and like you said there, that relationship will have to be based on one of honesty. if indeed you are going to manage to go forward. it does have a feel, ian and no doubt you will have been involved in a variety of different situations over the course of your esteemed career . it does have the feel , career. it does have the feel, it does have the feel of something that is quite possibly going to rumble on. you use the phrase thunderclouds gathering overhead, doesn't it ? overhead, doesn't it? >> it does. it does at the moment . but there is no evidence moment. but there is no evidence that's been put into the public domain either by the sun, which should have had it before it published or the family of the young person or the young person himself or his lawyer that we can see that any kind of crime
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has actually been committed. we don't know that at the moment. there's this there are these allegations ian's. and because they are still only allegations , is the presumption of innocence applies and this presenter still is entitled to a reasonable privacy . he can't be reasonable privacy. he can't be named he ought not be named and the problem is the pile on on social media is almost desperate for him to be named. and as you know as gb news will know, as other news organisations know , other news organisations know, his name is becoming more widely known in media circles . known in media circles. >> yeah, no indeed . and it is a >> yeah, no indeed. and it is a point that i was making yesterday and this was before we had then on the lawyer for the initial young person coming out and saying this is rubbish . then and saying this is rubbish. then we had a hit back from the
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mother and stepfather and now we've got this. so yesterday, 3 pm, i was saying, look, i do think that there is maybe a case for this individual to come out and either be named or name themselves primarily because loads of other people were getting roped into this. and it's of up and it's the talk of pubs up and down it's the talk down the country. it's the talk of tables around of family dining tables around the country, everything. and of family dining tables around the
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me, to my mind, it tips when the presenter is arrested and charged with an offence . until charged with an offence. until then , like it or not, the law is then, like it or not, the law is clear. the entitlement to privacy should hold you can't control, it seems to me. what's put out on social media. sadly, you can't even control some pubuchy you can't even control some publicity hungry mps who might decide to use the absolute privilege they have in to parliament let the name slip . parliament let the name slip. they did that in the ryan giggs case a few years ago. yeah to defy a super injunction, i regarded that as an abuse of parliamentary privilege and so did a lot of other lawyers . that did a lot of other lawyers. that shouldn't be happening because ultimately . we innocent ultimately. we innocent reputations of those who are innocent can be destroyed by false accusations . and we don't false accusations. and we don't yet know, however much we want
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to we don't yet know how much credibility these accusations, these allegations have got. there have been they've been made. they've been denied by the first young person. the second one claims to have been , as far one claims to have been, as far as we know. and this is breaking news for all of us, claims to have felt intimidated or threatened by messages . we threatened by messages. we haven't seen the messages. there was no contact, no contact . was no contact, no contact. there were no payments. there were no photographs and so on. so it's pre—emptive to talk about this presenter must now be named let the due process take its place. let the police and or the bbc investigate quickly and thoroughly and then . then and thoroughly and then. then and only then can there be some clarity . clarity. >> the bbc. what kind of duty of care do you think the bbc itself has to the public and to its other star staff? because to do
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things here, if a presenter has as the allegation in this case would appear by definition of who they are being in a position of power and celebrity, and therefore the power dynamic in this these allegations has made the individual as they claim, feel threatened and scared . and feel threatened and scared. and thatis feel threatened and scared. and that is a bbc employee who is allegedly having done that. also, of course , this idea now also, of course, this idea now that other bbc presenters are essentially being roped in and the turmoil and frankly, the ongoing nightmare and reputational damage for anyone who works at the bbc at the moment really? and at what point does the law start to come down where the bbc have have got to be putting the priorities of those people before the priorities of this unnamed presenter? is very grey presenter? is that a very grey area i've probably worded that area? i've probably worded that very i you very badly. i hope you understand what mean. there understand what i mean. there >> is the bbc does have >> well, it is the bbc does have a duty of care to its employees , those who are directly affected by this, those who are
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at the sharp end , starting with at the sharp end, starting with the presenter in question , but the presenter in question, but also the other high profile presenters as well . but it's got presenters as well. but it's got to balance that duty with its legal obligation not to invade the privacy. to which i've said he is, he is still entitled . at he is, he is still entitled. at some point , he is, he is still entitled. at some point, but he may decide to go public with a prepared statement . but if he doesn't , statement. but if he doesn't, and it is his choice, if he doesn't, the bbc isn't entitled at the moment to disclose his name. it is it may be limited in what it can do for the other presenters. it's a terribly unfortunate position that they find themselves in. and if even more want to come out and say, it wasn't me , then that will it wasn't me, then that will reduce the pool of potential presenters who are the one in question. yes and that itself add pressure to the to the actual presenter to say, okay, i
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have to say something now . it have to say something now. it doesn't have a duty of care to the public as such. too that's nebulous, it's too remote, it's too contingent . it has an too contingent. it has an obugafion too contingent. it has an obligation to be as balanced, as truthful, and all the rest of it. but as the major public service broadcaster in this country, you'd expect, but it doesn't have a duty to care as such we know it, as we define such as we know it, as we define it , that it would have to its it, that it would have to its own individual employees. >> ian, thank you very much. really fascinating stuff that massively appreciate it. it's ian bloom there, the media lawyer to a couple of lawyer reacting to a couple of different stories, of which different stories, one of which is breaking. i'll just is very much breaking. i'll just reiterate what this is. a young person bbc that person has told bbc news that they by bbc they felt threatened by the bbc presenter of a row presenter at the centre of a row over sexually over payment for sexually explicit just to explicit photos. look just to quickly i've spoken to quickly recap, i've spoken to two the last 20 two lawyers here in the last 20 minutes or asked them what minutes or so, asked them what they if this individual they would do if this individual was their client. they both was their client. now they both said absolutely vitally said it's absolutely vitally important know important that they know everything now and that that all everything now and that that all everything that there is to know now is said to them both of them then considered the idea that it
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is probably time , possibly time is probably time, possibly time to try to get ahead of this and have some kind of public statement or press conference and that i suspect, is a matter of time. loads more on this story on our website. gbnews.com it's the fastest growing national news website in the country right . because we do country right. because we do stories. exactly like this. i've got the best analysis , big got the best analysis, big opinion, all the latest breaking news later this hour, i will speak to a former bbc executive about this afternoon's big breaking news. in fact, will there more before now the there be more before now and the time them ? but first is time i get to them? but first is your weather a brighter outlook with boxed solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news afternoon of weather on. gb news afternoon , i'm alex deakin with your latest forecast from the met office for gb news sunny spells again tomorrow and again you will be dodging the downpour. >> some very heavy showers around and a fairly cool breeze. it's low pressure that continues to dominate. this one's been tracking across the country. this front clearing away
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this weather front clearing away from south—east. but in its from the south—east. but in its wake, still plenty of showers moving through for most on a fairly brisk breeze, but slow moving . heavy downpours across moving. heavy downpours across northern and bringing northern scotland and bringing some torrential rain for time some torrential rain for a time . some more rain will push back across northern into across northern ireland into southern scotland and northern england through the night. but a good england wales good chunk of england and wales will dry and clear will actually turn dry and clear with temperatures dropping to about now much of about 1314 degrees. now much of the midlands eastern and southern england will start off with some sunshine tomorrow, but there will already be a lot of cloud and showery rain over northern southern northern england and southern scotland . it will stay fairly scotland. it will stay fairly wet northern scotland with wet in northern scotland with an increasing here, more increasing breeze here, more heavy showers developing and they'll also develop elsewhere for northern ireland, of for northern ireland, parts of england and wales, although perhaps scattered perhaps a bit more scattered than today. so a better chance of some lengthier of seeing some lengthier dry spells, chance of seeing spells, better chance of seeing a more sunshine, but still a bit more sunshine, but still on cool side, especially in on the cool side, especially in the , temperatures around the breeze, temperatures around or touch below still, or a touch below average. still, thursday's story, but thursday's a similar story, but not as many showers as and some areas may have a completely dry
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day on thursday. still 1 or 2 heavy ones, especially in eastern parts come the afternoon. but parts of wales , afternoon. but parts of wales, south—west looking south—west england looking at least a bit on thursday . least a bit drier on thursday. >> a brighter outlook with boxed solar proud sponsors of weather on . gb news loads on solar proud sponsors of weather on. gb news loads on in just a few moments time, i will get more on the breaking news that the unnamed bbc presenter is facing allegations that he sent abusive and threatening messages to a second young person and just asking how much longer can this go on for, frankly. >> but here is the question for you. would you open your doors and channel migrant stay and let a channel migrant stay at your home? well that is one idea that's potentially being floated anyway by a think tank to reduce the £22 billion cost of keeping asylum seekers in hotels. would you open your doors to an asylum seeker
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this evening. gb news is the people's . channel surely a people's. channel surely a former bbc executive joins me on the latest breaking lines to come out of this bbc presenter scandal. >> but here's a question for you. would you open your doors and let's say channel migrants stay your home? that is what stay at your home? that is what a policy exchange think tank are loosely suggesting. they're talking more about those people with big houses in the leafy suburbs who pontificate about
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refugees. welcome. but to reduce the £22 billion cost of keeping asylum seekers in hotels, more than 13,000 migrants who now cross the channel in small boats this year, 1500 since friday. and let's be honest , it's and let's be honest, it's probably going to be another record year. let's the view record year. let's get the view now local government editor now of local government editor at home. it's harry at conservative home. it's harry phibbs. thank you very, phibbs. harry, thank you very, very much. essentially is it time for posh people who claim to love refugees to put up or shut up ? i think that's shut up? i think that's a perfectly reasonable question. >> but i do think that there are two different things that keep getting muddled up, aren't there, in terms of saying we should be. >> should we be tough should >> should we be tough or should we we should absolutely we be soft? we should absolutely be tough in saying be completely tough in saying that we're an independent nation and we have control of our borders and that there be no possibility any body under possibility of any body under any circumstances entering this country illegally, being able to stay. >> i think the rwanda scheme is a perfectly good one, but other people have got alternatives. >> they come them, >> they can come up with them, but that should be absolutely clear.
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>> the second point is, should we choose to allow in refugees to the to the greatest extent , to the to the greatest extent, that's practical and that's what we've done through through a proud history of it. >> and one practical point is to look at ways of doing that that keeps the costs down. and if people have got spare rooms and obviously a lot of ukraine have come, we hope, temporary , i'm come, we hope, temporary, i'm sure they will hope they'll be able to go back to ukraine soon. yeah that's harry. >> let me of managing. >> let me of managing. >> so they're two completely different points , aren't there? different points, aren't there? >> well yeah but there's also two completely different points about that about the kind of people that we're harry we're talking about. harry you know, we've got women and children genuinely fleeing a war zone from ukraine and zone coming from ukraine and we've got undocumented men in some cases claiming to be boys, frankly, fleeing france. in the other case, there was a world of difference between those two groups of people. no absolutely i >> -- >> and in terms of the people coming over from france, then when the answer is none of them
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, there shouldn't be a question of they staying in spare of are they staying in a spare room? staying room? are they staying in a hotel ? we need to be very the hotel? we need to be very the government be very government needs to be very clear needs to withdraw clear if it needs to withdraw from european convention on from the european convention on human it needs to put human rights, if it needs to put up rebels among some up with a rebels among some conservative mps in the commons , it needs to whatever it , it needs to do whatever it takes to be absolutely strong and clear that people who come to this country illegally will not allowed to stay. that not be allowed to stay. and that would, put people would, of course put the people smugglers it smugglers out of business. it would in practise, huge would in practise, be a huge deterrent . deterrent. >> people wouldn't be very likely to keep keep trying to come here if they knew that was to going be the reality. >> should absolutely >> so we should be absolutely tough but i think that tough on that. but i think that in terms looking at practical in terms of looking at practical ways, i mean, another point in the policy exchange thing was policy exchange report was helping genuine refugees to learn to speak english. >> i think it's perfectly reasonable to try and find ways to ease the rules on them being able to work . absolutely. able to work. absolutely. >> it's better for them as well as for the taxpayer . if people
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as for the taxpayer. if people are in spare rooms in a family home rather than hotels. so absolutely , let's let's be absolutely, let's let's be practical about helping genuine refugees . let's be absolutely refugees. let's be absolutely clear, absolutely tough about saying nobody is allowed to come to this country illegally. only people who we welcome as genuine refugees. >> do you know why? i think that the home office would never actually go for this or the government wouldn't is because if did decide to enact if they did decide to enact a policy that let anyone in who wanted to, anyone with enough room, anyone with a heart to allow channel migrants to stay in their spare room, they government would then be on the hook for the potential consequences of that and those consequences of that and those consequences could stem from a reality that we don't know who a lot of these people are or what their criminal history is , and their criminal history is, and they more than happy to they are more than happy to plonk a of people in plonk a load of these people in hotels, local communities, hotels, in local communities, but be on the hook but they would be on the hook for of for millions of pounds worth of compensation when it all kicks off somebody's off inside somebody's own front room . room. >> i mean , you shouldn't be
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>> i mean, you shouldn't be allowed to have you shouldn't be allowed to have you shouldn't be allowed to have someone in your spare room who's who's in the who's coming to country who's coming to the country illegally. way , think illegally. by the way, i think it's completely understandable. >> country. >> we're fantastic country. >> we're a fantastic country. we've got 8 billion of us on the planet. people planet. we've got lots of people in countries where they're enslaved or impoverished with awful regimes. i think it's entirely understandable that a huge number of people would like to live here. the reality is, of course, even the you know, the archbishop of canterbury or the, you know, the bbc or the labour party would would probably accept that can't fit accept that we can't fit everybody in. so therefore , it's everybody in. so therefore, it's a matter of how many people we can fit in and should they should should what should the priority be? and the priority should not to , be to anybody. should not to, be to anybody. just, just just turning up to the people smugglers coming over the people smugglers coming over the now. the channel now. >> . harry, thank you >> indeed. harry, thank you very much. that harry much. great stuff that harry phibbs there, who is, course, phibbs there, who is, of course, the editor at the local government editor at conservative home, really getting policy exchange getting to a policy exchange report wonderful dr. report by the wonderful dr. ricky hassan, who was on earlier. whole point
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ricky hassan, who was on earlier. report whole point ricky hassan, who was on earlier. report was whole point ricky hassan, who was on earlier. report was nhole fthat ricky hassan, who was on earlworkingrt was nhole fthat ricky hassan, who was on earlworking class nhole fthat ricky hassan, who was on earlworking class havee fthat the working class have absolutely suffered when the working class have alcomes.y suffered when the working class have alcomes to ;uffered when the working class have alcomes to the red when the working class have alcomes to the channel when the working class have alcomes to the channel migrant it comes to the channel migrant crisis. they're always plonking these in predominantly these hotels in predominantly working , sacking working class areas, sacking people working class jobs working class areas, sacking pe hotels working class jobs working class areas, sacking pe hotels in working class jobs working class areas, sacking pe hotels in order ng class jobs working class areas, sacking pe hotels in order to class jobs working class areas, sacking pe hotels in order to make jobs working class areas, sacking pe hotels in order to make way at hotels in order to make way for them. and you know what? at hotels in order to make way fo time n. and you know what? at hotels in order to make way fo time that|d you know what? at hotels in order to make way fo time that [josh] know what? at hotels in order to make way fo time that posh people what? at hotels in order to make way fo time that posh people in at? is time that posh people in massive houses with the eu flag outside their front door and the refugees brigade, refugees welcome brigade, as i call them, put their where call them, put their money where their is put or shut their mouth is put up or shut up. course they won't up. but of course they won't because want the of because they want the kind of stepford style illegal stepford wife style illegal immigrant, they? immigrant, don't they? one that's vetted, that's been completely vetted, one a woman and one that is probably a woman and her child ukraine. but then her child from ukraine. but then when they are confronted with the kind of the reality of the kind of people across the people who are coming across the channel channel, oh, no, sorry, i suddenly the room. suddenly don't have the room. well about it well stop banging on about it then. loads more still to then. write loads more still to come now 6:00. come between now and 6:00. there's latest on the there's the latest on the protest a hotel in south protest outside a hotel in south wales. here we go. i would argue that these some working that these are some working class have class heroes. 95 people have lost their jobs. 200 migrants lost theirjobs. 200 migrants are move they've are about to move in and they've said not. they've said absolutely not. they've barricaded themselves outside this . and guess what? this hotel. and guess what? they've learned the law and they've stuck to it. and they have forced the police into
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have now forced the police into to well, frankly , anyway, to well, frankly, anyway, guarding that hotel to make sure that nobody can come in or out of it. rory smith now, though, with headlines . with the headlines. >> thank you very much, patrick. a second person has come forward to make a complaint against the bbc presenter was accused of paying bbc presenter was accused of paying for sexually explicit photos. the broadcaster says it spoke to a person in their early 20s who claims they were sent a number of threatening messages by the host . the person says by the host. the person says they were put under pressure to meet the bbc star, but never did well. separate the bbc has published details of its highest paid stars as part of its annual report . gary paid stars as part of its annual report. gary lineker remains the corporation's top paid presenter, taking home more than £1.35 million in zoe ball is the highest paid female presenter , highest paid female presenter, earning more than £980,000 a
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romanian people smuggler has been jailed for 12 years and seven months for the manslaughter of 39 vietnamese migrants who were found dead in a container which had been transported from belgium to essex in 2019. 50 year old marius draghi fled the country after the bodies were discovered . that's the up to date. but you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website. thatis stories by visiting our website. that is gbnews.com . direct that is gbnews.com. direct bullion sponsors the finance report on gb news for gold and silver investment . silver investment. >> it . >> it. >> it. >> here's a quick snapshot of today's markets. the pound will buy you $1.2901 and ,1.1734. the price of gold is . at £1,496.26
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price of gold is. at £1,496.26 per ounce. and the ftse 100 has closed . at 7282 points. direct closed. at 7282 points. direct bullion sponsors the finance report on gb news investments that matter . that matter. >> well, the bbc presenter at the centre of claims of inappropriate conduct is now facing a second set of allegations from a different young person. according to bbc news, the person is in their early 20s and was the subject of threatening and abusive messages after initially making contact on a dating app . this is a on a dating app. this is a development to the initial story and is piling pressure on this idea , this question of whether idea, this question of whether or not the individual should now be named or would indeed name themselves. i'm joined now by a former bbc executive professor tim luckhurst. thank you very much . great to have you on. do much. great to have you on. do you think this individual should now come forward and name themselves ? themselves? >> i don't think there's the
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remotest possibility that they will. >> and given the nature of our current privacy law, i don't think that they can be obliged to do so or that they will be named by the bbc or by a newspaper either. i suspect, however , that there is a however, that there is a possibility that that a member of parliament might choose to use parliamentary privilege to identify the presenter in the house of commons. that's a possibility. it's something that some conservative mps have been hinting at. i wouldn't encourage it, but it's certainly a possibility parliamentary privilege would allow them to do that to face consequence that and to face no consequence . yeah, absolutely. that and to face no consequence . yel h, absolutely. that and to face no consequence . yel think.olutely. that and to face no consequence .yel think you're'. that and to face no consequence . yel think you're absolutely >> i think you're absolutely spot on about that. and think spot on about that. and i think that question of if this that it's a question of if this becomes a continuous drip, then i think an mp may well end up taking it upon themselves. as a former bbc executive, what did the bbc do about this? now >> well, the bbc is really in the firing line now and i think that's a great shame . the that's a great shame. the director general did a fairly good job of answering questions
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today, but that was before this second set of allegations emerged. the second set of allegations does tend to give some support to the suggestion that there is something seriously wrong going on, that this presenter has got some serious questions to answer. and the bbc will be under a great deal of pressure to get those answers and put them in the pubuc answers and put them in the public domain. and that's going to because at the to be difficult because at the moment bbc's own inquiry moment the bbc's own inquiry tree has stalled while the tree has been stalled while the police decide whether there is anything criminal that they need to investigate. so i know that the director general will be keen to get on and get answers inside the bbc, but at the moment he's waiting for the police make before police to make decisions before he can do that. >> yeah, indeed . and there is no >> yeah, indeed. and there is no question whatsoever that the director general is under a huge amount of pressure and the own internal policy at the bbc is now under the microscope as well
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to act quickly in light of the fact that just until about an hour ago when the second raft of allegations came out, the to the talking point, if you allegations came out, the to the talking point , if you will, was, talking point, if you will, was, well, why did it take the bbc around two months to essentially get their backsides in gear when it came to this? well, now then this allegation comes out. one would assume that they were trying to make a virtue of trying to make a virtue out of how they're reacting how quickly they're reacting to it well, the one thing that i >> well, the one thing that i thought the bbc director—general was absolutely clear about in his statement today also one thing about which he was very clear was he to know clear was that he wanted to know why why it had taken so long for the original complaint to reach the original complaint to reach the level in the bbc at which it could be taken seriously . one could be taken seriously. one email and one telephone call in the course of seven weeks doesn't look to me like a sufficient response to what must have been a fairly serious allegation . and the director allegation. and the director general acknowledges that it was a serious allegation. he said in his question in his answer to
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questions today, that he wanted to know whether or not the bbc's procedure had red flagged this complaint early enough. i think it's fairly clear that it didn't. red flag it clear clearly early enough. it's now obviously the case that the bbc has got another serious complaint that it needs to look at and hopefully that will be red flagged very quickly. the director general will be able to get teeth it almost immediately. >> tim, thank you very much. great stuff. much appreciated. tim former bbc tim luckhurst is a former bbc executive professor tim luckhurst demoted there luckhurst and demoted him there . right. okay let's . how dare i? right. okay let's get to an update on a story that i covered extensively yesterday and on in the show, and earlier on in the show, because this is another developing story. in developing story. the hotel in italy in south wales where 95 staff have lost their jobs ahead of the arrival of more than 200 migrants. protesters have now migrants. so protesters have now started to erect marquees , which started to erect marquees, which you're looking now. if you're you're looking at now. if you're watching us on your telly or onune watching us on your telly or online stradey park online outside the stradey park hotel that hotel, organisers say that they've provided with food they've been provided with food as fight the as they continue to fight the decision house asylum decision to house asylum seekers. there i am joined now by morgan from the voice
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by dan morgan from the voice of wales you very wales group. dan, thank you very , much. it's great to have , very much. it's great to have you the dan, look , what you on the show. dan, look, what is what is going on there? this is what is going on there? this is now i mean, i've heard that they were trying to deliver beds to this hotel that's been blocked by the sheer volume of the public saying no to it. well what's the latest from the scene ? >> 7- >> yeah. so 7— >> yeah. so i 7 >> yeah. so i think ? >> yeah. so i think the biggest thing that they've got at the moment is the numbers. >> the numbers are there and they are able to hold the line, so to say. >> now, the interesting thing with is , as you with this example is, as you mentioned earlier on the land going into the hotel isn't owned by the hotel . so the police have by the hotel. so the police have to abide by the law and not let people trespass on to the land . people trespass on to the land. so it's a bit of a sticking point at the moment where we are. but all i can say regarding the protest , as are. but all i can say regarding the protest, as is that the numbers are growing . it's only numbers are growing. it's only getting bigger and what started off, as you see them boulders there in the video are just the boulders has now gone to tents,
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gazebos, marquees , generators, gazebos, marquees, generators, fridges, kettles as food, endless amounts of food . so and endless amounts of food. so and these people are staying there in 24 hour shifts. and you know, then there's a relief crew in then there's a relief crew in the morning. so they're very well organised. um, and yeah, they've got a real fight on their hands. look at some of those signs there. >> our community. how's our >> save our community. how's our homeless? first? are homeless? first? these are exactly , exactly the kind of exactly, exactly the kind of things that people up and down the saying. but the the country are saying. but the difference what's going difference between what's going on where you are and on there, where you are and what's going on in a variety of different is what's going on in a variety of diffeyou is what's going on in a variety of diffeyou have is what's going on in a variety of diffeyou have acted is what's going on in a variety of diffeyou have acted on is what's going on in a variety of diffeyou have acted on it is that you have acted on it quickly enough. right. and this actually be almost like a actually could be almost like a legal precedent whereby the sheer weight of public opinion and the effort that you're all going to would stop an asylum seeker hotel popping up in an area . is it not a shame that area. is it not a shame that it's come to this? oh it's the fact it's even come to this is unbelievable. >> it's totally ridiculous. and you know, the difference you've got in where you are, where they are now is this is still a
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community. it's still a small community. it's still a small community. everybody knows each other . everybody is you know, other. everybody is you know, they can contact each other whenever they want . um, whenever they want. um, throughout wales, the community spirit, so to say, has been totally destroyed by welsh labourin totally destroyed by welsh labour in bigger cities. these hotels are everywhere. cardiff is full of them, but, but there's no pushback because there's no pushback because there's no pushback because there's no community spirit left anymore . when you go to a small anymore. when you go to a small town of 400 people like furnace , where the hotel is and you're getting a thousand on the getting a thousand people on the streets , to a thousand. streets, close to a thousand. yesterday you know that that's community spirit. and that is what they really have on their side here. and you see the arrests that were happening. the police, you know , they don't police, you know, they don't really know the complications that they're getting themselves in this community will in because this community will fight for each other and they prepared to go the distance. we've seen a number of arrests yesterday. arrests at, yesterday. there was arrests at, um and it's just crazy. it's just crazy how, you know, it's even got to this point in the first place. and these people are seeing now first hand.
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exactly how the politicians, their representative , the their representative, the committee members are actually acting for them, which is they're not they're totally not now. how. >> now. >> and i think people are starting to get a bit of a taste of their own right. of their own medicine right. right the country. right up and down the country. right up and down the country. right witnessing right now, we are witnessing completely sites completely unsuitable sites being used in a very clandestine manner where people essentially wake up one morning to find out that their local hotel, which may well have been a major source of income for that local area, has been secretly essentially bought in a roundabout way, bought off anyway by the home office to be used. and those asylum seekers are in there and that is it. but what has happened in your area is that people have looked at the law, they've looked at the deeds particular hotel, deeds of this particular hotel, they've the registry, they've seen the land registry, they've seen the land registry, they've seen the land registry, they've seen that there's a private road now i private road there. now as i understand there is only one understand it, there is only one way that hotel. right way into that hotel. am i right in is through in saying that is through a bush, which is now the which the bush now has a police escort. doesit bush now has a police escort. does it ? does it? >> yeah, it's been coined as the
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most well protected bush in great britain right now . great britain right now. >> it's the way in and the way out of the hotel because the sheer volume of people on the main front entrance, it's impossible to get through . so impossible to get through. so that bush is the only in and out that bush is the only in and out that that the staff, the security that they've got there are able to use. now that was a big point. you know, the protesters were blocking that as well . they were linked. one of well. they were linked. one of them chained himself to a post allegedly, and, you know, so but then that is the lengths they're willing to go to. they're willing to go to. they're willing to go the distance to make sure that, you know , these make sure that, you know, these the fight they're not just going to lay down. you know, they're showing their politicians who haven't been there for them. they've said that they're against this, which is correct. they are against this. everybody is against this. but what they're not saying they they're not saying is that they want houses. so want to put them in houses. so they to give them priority they want to give them priority housing. know, the welsh housing. you know, the welsh government voted like 20 days housing. you know, the welsh govei|ment voted like 20 days housing. you know, the welsh govei think voted like 20 days housing. you know, the welsh govei think ,'oted like 20 days housing. you know, the welsh govei think , um, like 20 days housing. you know, the welsh govei think , um, against days housing. you know, the welsh govei think , um, against the s
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ago. i think, um, against the migration bill, you know, to, to make it illegal for anybody. if they cross, they can't gain asylum now, you know, they can't preach . wales being nation of preach. wales being a nation of sanctuary and then when it happens, complain because it's on you know, it on their doorstep, you know, it just seems like, you know, bit just seems like, you know, a bit hypocritical from the welsh labour government we have labour government that we have to be voting favour of this to be voting in favour of this constant constantly and then when it happens, then they're not happy about it. >> well, no, this is it. we are now living as ordinary people in the nightmare of . what 650 mps the nightmare of. what 650 mps and however many members of the house of lords and the mess that they have created by not being able to get their backsides in gear and deal with the situation and continue fighting and arguing it, it's all very arguing about it, it's all very well good for them arguing well and good for them arguing and chamber with and a nice cushy chamber with the taxpayer subsidised restaurants and bars around the corner there. well, whilst they can't pull their fingers and corner there. well, whilst they can itpull their fingers and corner there. well, whilst they can it sorted,eir fingers and corner there. well, whilst they can it sorted, people rs and corner there. well, whilst they can it sorted, people like and corner there. well, whilst they can it sorted, people like you d get it sorted, people like you and the local community around your area, they're having to take time off work to try to
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save their local community from this but look this absolute madness. but look down. very much and down. thank you very much and keep good work, my good keep up the good work, my good man, and i'll be to you man, and i'll be talking to you very doubt. it's dan very soon. no doubt. it's dan morgan the voice of morgan there from the voice of wales on. wales that's going to carry on. they not moving. they are they are not moving. and the home and at some point, the home office and the hotelier going office and the hotelier is going to decision to make, office and the hotelier is going to is decision to make, office and the hotelier is going to is whethern to make, office and the hotelier is going to is whether oro make, office and the hotelier is going to is whether or notake, office and the hotelier is going to is whether or not they which is whether or not they essentially take battering ram essentially take a battering ram to welsh people to essentially take a battering ram to them welsh people to essentially take a battering ram to them out welsh people to essentially take a battering ram to them out olesh people to essentially take a battering ram to them out of the people to essentially take a battering ram to them out of the way)le to essentially take a battering ram to them out of the way in to essentially take a battering ram to them out of the way in order get them out of the way in order to get a load asylum seekers to get a load of asylum seekers in. and i'm just not sure they're going do that. but they're going to do that. but yes, of this yes, the remainder of this afternoon's big breaking news, the centre afternoon's big breaking news, th
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online gb news britain on news channel the 12th a day to celebrate history, community and family here in northern ireland. >> join me arlene foster on me dougie beattie as we bring you live coverage of the july 12th celebrations from the beautiful city of belfast. >> i'm right across the united kingdom. it's all happening here on gb news, britain's news. channel >> more explosive allegations about an as yet unnamed bbc star are this time from a second young person who has come out to say that they have received threats , ring messages after threats, ring messages after they alluded that they might out they alluded that they might out
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the individual in question. i am joined now by pr and branding expert mark borkowski. mark, thank you very, very much. this very much has feel of very much has the feel of a drip, drip story if drip, drip, drip story to it. if you are representing the individual in question as yet unnamed, of course, what's your advice? do you think that no matter what happens now, there is any coming from this ? is any coming back from this? >> well , it is any coming back from this? >> well, it seems ridiculous to even begin to think of what sort of advice you'd give this individual. >> i mean, look, part of the issue, patrick, when you're deaung issue, patrick, when you're dealing with a crisis is you're hoping that your client tells you the full story . you the full story. >> and unfortunately, there are unfortunately, there are occasions where your client can't face the reality of the situation . situation. >> ocean and they hide back the truths . what i don't know enough truths. what i don't know enough about this because really the story is the story . story is the story. >> it's unfolding. >> it's unfolding. >> and if you look at the way the bbc are handling it and it just feels that there's a heavy
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touch of lawyers on this, the press conference today or the press conference today or the press briefing today with the director general, tim davie . he director general, tim davie. he said very little. it was it was excruciating in terms of that . excruciating in terms of that. >> i mean, he even admitted that he hadn't spoken to the person at the centre of this, which i would have thought he needs to do. >> and that suggested , again, >> and that suggested, again, that there was a certain amount of sort of protection. the bbc is deeply wounded. the reputation is shot. >> if there's any any positivity out of this , it's actually the out of this, it's actually the news organisation itself is actually breaking the story. >> i mean, to be fair, you would you would expect i mean , with you would expect i mean, with respect if gb news had beaten the bbc to this as well, he would have to start asking some serious questions about about the of newsgathering the quality of newsgathering because they're not having to look very far for four fs i suppose. so look in terms of in terms of the bbc's brand, right, and the licence fee, etcetera, what now does this actually have a material impact on that, do
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you think ? you think? >> well, of course it has. >> well, of course it has. >> i don't know about the licence fee, but in terms of, you know , the trust and the and you know, the trust and the and the epic look we've seen, you know, since saville , you know, know, since saville, you know, we've had the cliff richard issue, bashir. issue, we've had martin bashir. i issue, we've had martin bashir. | , issue, we've had martin bashir. i , you know, the bbc is i mean, you know, the bbc is deeply wounded and they're trying to with crisis trying to deal with this crisis with the baseball with with the baseball bat with everybody got machine guns >> it it's not good. >> it it's not good. >> and in fact , the director >> and in fact, the director general at that press conference admitted it. it wasn't good . and admitted it. it wasn't good. and the due process is they have in place don't seem to be they seem to be 20th century. they don't seem to be 21st century when social media and the world supposedly knows , you know, supposedly knows, you know, press reported that 1 in 6 people i don't know how they make this calculation in this country knows the story. but if thatis country knows the story. but if that is the case, sooner or later , there has to be later, there has to be a strategy from the person, the centre of this to actually think about how they're coming out. but at the moment, you know, there's no legalities that are questioned and it's , you know,
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questioned and it's, you know, we have to ask that question. is it interesting or is it, you know, is it of public interest? >> is this is this is it? look, mark, thank you very much. short and afraid that's and sweet, i'm afraid that's the nature it. mark nature of it. but as mark borkowski is a pr and brand expert, play expert, three issues at play here. question over here. there's question over legality. questions over legality. there's questions over morals. of course , as well. and morals. of course, as well. and there's questions over alleged threatening behaviour . there's questions over alleged threatening behaviour. i think everybody who thought and maybe hoped this story was going to go away is looking very, very silly now. dewbs& co next, the temperatures rising. >> boxed solar , the proud >> boxed solar, the proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> afternoon. i'm alex deakin with your latest forecast from the met office for gb news. sunny spells again tomorrow and again you will be dodging the downpour. some very heavy showers around and a fairly cool breeze. it's low pressure that continues to dominate. this one's tracking across the one's been tracking across the country . this weather front country. this weather front clearing away the clearing away from the south—east, but in its wake,
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still plenty of showers moving through for most on a fairly brisk breeze, but slow moving. heavy across northern heavy downpours across northern scotland bringing some torrential rain for a time. more rain will push back across northern ireland into southern scotland england scotland and northern england through the night. but a good chunk and will chunk of england and wales will actually dry and clear with actually turn dry and clear with temperatures about temperatures dropping to about 1314 now for much of 1314 degrees. now for much of the midlands eastern and southern england will start off with some sunshine tomorrow, but there will already be a lot of cloud and showery rain over northern england and southern scotland . it it'll stay fairly scotland. it it'll stay fairly wet northern scotland with an wet in northern scotland with an increasing here. more increasing breeze here. more heavy showers developing and they'll also develop elsewhere for northern ireland and parts of england and wales, although perhaps more scattered perhaps a bit more scattered than a better chance perhaps a bit more scattered th.seeing a better chance perhaps a bit more scattered th.seeing somea better chance perhaps a bit more scattered th.seeing some lengthier1ance perhaps a bit more scattered th.seeing some lengthier dry:e of seeing some lengthier dry spells, better chance of seeing a more but still spells, better chance of seeing a the|ore but still spells, better chance of seeing a the cool but still spells, better chance of seeing a the cool side but still spells, better chance of seeing a the cool side , but still spells, better chance of seeing a the cool side , especiallyl spells, better chance of seeing a the cool side , especially in on the cool side, especially in the temperatures around the breeze, temperatures around or touch average still , or a touch below average still, thursday's a similar story, but not as many showers and some areas may have a completely dry day on thursday. still 1 or 2
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heavy ones, especially in eastern parts come the afternoon . but parts of wales, south—west england looking at least a bit dner england looking at least a bit drier thursday . drier on thursday. >> the temperatures rising , >> the temperatures rising, boxed solar, proud sponsors of weather on .
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