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commons braces itself to vote on bofis commons braces itself to vote on boris johnson's fate on monday. and i'll be asking, boris johnson's fate on monday. and i'll be asking , is this the and i'll be asking, is this the end for bowser .7 and a quick fire end for bowser.7 and a quick fire for the panel just to wrap things up . everything from ice things up. everything from ice cream van bans to pride in the firearms unit. you will not want to miss it. well, that's all coming up after the news with rory smith . thank you very much, rory smith. thank you very much, martin.— rory smith. thank you very much, martin. a— rory smith. thank you very much, martin. a mn— rory smith. thank you very much, martin. a man has— rory smith. thank you very much, martin. a man has been- 1:33 thank you very much, martin. a man has been charged wm.— martin. a man has been charged with the— martin. a man has been charged with the murders— martin. a man has been charged with the murders of three people in nottingham's_ with the murders of three people in nottingham's knife attacks. 31 year— in nottingham's knife attacks. 31 year om— in nottingham's knife attacks. 31 year old osvaldo khalil khan , a former student— 31 year old osvaldo khalil khan , a former student of nottingham university, — , a former student of nottingham university, motty,_ , a former student of nottingham university, motty, is accused of mung— university, motty, is accused of killing barnaby— university, motty, is accused of killing barnaby webber. grace o-mauey— killing barnaby webber. grace o'malley kumar_ killing barnaby webber. grace o'malley kumar and ian coates on tuesday— o'malley kumar and ian coates on tuesday .— o'malley kumar and ian coates on tuesday . hee— o'malley kumar and ian coates on tuesday . he's also— o'malley kumar and ian coates on tuesday . he's also accused of tuesday. he's also accused of three— tuesday. he's also accused of the wane— tuesday. he's also accused of three counts of— tuesday. he's also accused of three counts of attempt murder after— three counts of attempt murder after three— three counts of attempt murder after three other— three counts of attempt murder after three other people were injured — after three other people were injured when— after three other people were injured when they were hit by a van injured when they were hit by a mae— injured when they were hit by a van that morning— injured when they were hit by a van that morning ._ injured when they were hit by a van that morning . he's due to van that morning. he's due to appear— van that morning. he's due to appear at— van that morning. he's due to appear at nottingham, manchester rates— appear at nottingham, manchester reaaee coura— appear at nottingham, manchester rates court tomorrow . boris rates court tomorrow. boris johnson— rates court tomorrow. boris johnson ae— rates court tomorrow. boris johnson is accused of breaching
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ministeria— johnson is accused of breaching ministerial rules— johnson is accused of breaching ministerial rules by taking up a rete— ministerial rules by taking up a new role as a daily mail columnist— new role as a daily mail columnist at— new role as a daily mail columnist at the advisory committee — columnist at the advisory committee on— columnist at the advisory committee on business appointments claims mr johnson eave— appointments claims mr johnson gave them— appointments claims mr johnson gave aaem ease— appointments claims mr johnson gave them just half an hour's notice.— gave them just half an hour's notice. that's— gave them just half an hour's notice. that's despite the ministerial— notice. that's despite the ministerial code requiring those whe— ministerial code requiring those who have— ministerial code requiring those who have left— ministerial code requiring those who have left the— ministerial code requiring those who have left the government in the ease— who have left the government in the taet twe— who have left the government in the last two years— who have left the government in the last two years to apply for atvtee— the last two years to apply for atvtee eh— the last two years to apply for advice on taking— the last two years to apply for advice on taking up new appointments- advice on taking up new appointments . advice on taking up new appointments. mrjohnson's advice on taking up new appointments. mr johnson's first atttete— appointments. mr johnson's first atttete te— appointments. mr johnson's first atttete he eh— appointments. mr johnson's first article is on how— appointments. mr johnson's first article is on how a— appointments. mr johnson's first article is on how a weight loss that— article is on how a weight loss drug that— article is on how a weight loss drug didn't work— article is on how a weight loss drug didn't work well for him, eayhg— drug didn't work well for him, eayhg he— drug didn't work well for him, eayhg he wttt— drug didn't work well for him, saying he will only cover pettttee— saying he will only cover politics when _ saying he will only cover politics when he absolutely has to. politics when he absolutely has ta. the— politics when he absolutely has to. the former— politics when he absolutely has to. the former director general of to. the former director general at the— to. the former director general at the pathe— to. the former director general of the police watchdog has been chargea— of the police watchdog has been charged wtth— of the police watchdog has been charged with raping a girl under the age— charged with raping a girl under the age at— charged with raping a girl under the age at he.— charged with raping a girl under the age of 16. michael lockwood is the age of 16. michael lockwood he aeeaeet— the age of 16. michael lockwood he aeeaeet et— the age of 16. michael lockwood is accused of six— the age of 16. michael lockwood is accused of six counts of hhteeeht— is accused of six counts of indecent assault- is accused of six counts of indecent assault and three eeahte— indecent assault and three eeahte et— indecent assault and three counts of rape— indecent assault and three counts of rape against the teenager.— counts of rape against the teenager. the— counts of rape against the teenager. the crown prosecution eehhee— teenager. the crown prosecution sehhee eaye— teenager. the crown prosecution service says the— teenager. the crown prosecution service says the 64— teenager. the crown prosecution service says the 64 year old attegethy— service says the 64 year old allegedly committed the crimes tathhg— allegedly committed the crimes tathhg the— allegedly committed the crimes during the 1980s.— allegedly committed the crimes during the 1980s. he left the htehehteht— during the 1980s. he left the independent office for police eehtaet— independent office for police eehtaet h— independent office for police conduct in december after it emerget— conduct in december after it emerget he— conduct in december after it emerged he was— conduct in december after it emerged he was being investigated- emerged he was being investigated over a historical
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athegatheh— investigated over a historical attegatheh .— investigated over a historical attegatheh . h— investigated over a historical allegation . a hosepipe ban will allegation. a hosepipe ban will be allegation. a hosepipe ban will he h— allegation. a hosepipe ban will he hh hhaee— allegation. a hosepipe ban will he he htaee h— allegation. a hosepipe ban will be in place in kent and sussex them— be in place in kent and sussex them the— be in place in kent and sussex from the 26th— be in place in kent and sussex from the 26th of— be in place in kent and sussex from the 26th of june as the heatwave— from the 26th of june as the heatwave across— from the 26th of june as the heatwave across the country eehhthaee — heatwave across the country continues. south _ heatwave across the country continues. south east water is hhheehhg— continues. south east water is hhpeehhg the— continues. south east water is imposing the ban— continues. south east water is imposing the ban as drinking water— imposing the ban as drinking water reaches— imposing the ban as drinking water reaches record demand. the— water reaches record demand. hhhe heath.— water reaches record demand. this month. some households in the the— this month. some households in the two counties— this month. some households in the two counties have been whtheat— the two counties have been without water— the two counties have been without water since monday due to eappty— without water since monday due to eaggty heea.ee— without water since monday due to supply issues. rule breakers eeaht— to supply issues. rule breakers teeth that— to supply issues. rule breakers could find themselves hit with a thooo — could find themselves hit with a thooo the — could find themselves hit with a £1,000 fine on. _ could find themselves hit with a £1,000 fine on. king charles has ahhehhtet— £1,000 fine on. king charles has appointed queen— £1,000 fine on. king charles has appointed queen camilla with the hhgheet— appointed queen camilla with the hhgheet hehea— appointed queen camilla with the highest honour in— appointed queen camilla with the highest honour in scotland . the highest honour in scotland. the gaeeh— highest honour in scotland. the gaeeh hae— highest honour in scotland. the queen has been— highest honour in scotland. the queen has been given the honour to the— queen has been given the honour to the meet— queen has been given the honour to the most ancient— queen has been given the honour to the most ancient and most hatte— to the most ancient and most hehte eater— to the most ancient and most noble order of— to the most ancient and most noble order of the thistle. that-e— noble order of the thistle. we a— noble order of the thistle. that's a personal gift from the hehaeh— that's a personal gift from the monarch that— that's a personal gift from the monarch that recognised his 16 thhghte— monarch that recognised his 16 thhghte, atehg— monarch that recognised his 16 knights, along with a number of heathe— knights, along with a number of heegte whe— knights, along with a number of people who have— knights, along with a number of people who have held public atthee— people who have held public atthee et— people who have held public office or have— people who have held public office or have contributed to hathehah— office or have contributed to national life.— office or have contributed to national life. it— office or have contributed to national life. it comes ahead of the thhg-e— national life. it comes ahead of the king's first— national life. it comes ahead of the king's first trooping the cateat— the king's first trooping the colour ceremony tomorrow to mark his colour ceremony tomorrow to mark hhe atthehah— colour ceremony tomorrow to mark his official birthday— colour ceremony tomorrow to mark his official birthday ._ colour ceremony tomorrow to mark his official birthday . tv online his official birthday. tv online data — his official birthday. tv online data tatte— his official birthday. tv online dab+ radio and— his official birthday. tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. this
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was he and only he who could stop the tide. yet it got worse. todayit stop the tide. yet it got worse. today it emerged the home office spent a whopping £3.6 billion on asylum support in 20 2223, nearly double the year before. astonished rishi has made things worse. his pledge to clear a backlog of nearly 100,000 old asylum claims has created a logjam of new claims. asylum claims has created a logjam of new claims . yes, the logjam of new claims. yes, the lunatics have finally taken over our asylum system. but before you say oh well, at least things can't get any worse , the answer can't get any worse, the answer is they can. a lot worse. if labour get into power because, like rishi keir starmer likes to talk tough on borders , but like talk tough on borders, but like rishi, he'll be another chocolate teapot. yvette cooper his shadow home secretary is basically gary lineker in a wig and most labour share . most and most labour share. most labour mps share her refugees welcome stance to in february 20th, 2053 bleeding heart mps,
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including labour luminaires at the time, jeremy corbyn, diane abbott, david lammy and nadia whittome succeed aided in grounding a flight loaded with 43 foreign criminals about to be deported to jamaica . three of deported to jamaica. three of those criminals went on to reoffend , including one arnesto reoffend, including one arnesto elliot , who brutally stabbed elliot, who brutally stabbed a man to death. yet ms whittam called them vulnerable people, adding refugees need protection, not deport nation. whose side are these people on.7 some 9346 have crossed the channel illegally. this year, including at least 1500 this week and over 300 today. say we have absolutely no idea who any of these people are . we now no these people are. we now no longer know who walks among us. of course, they're not all bad apples. some made genuinely be fleeing war zones, but they could have claimed asylum in france. mind you, have you been to paris recently .7 but it's
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to paris recently? but it's delusional and danger worse for the lineker rights to claim that they're all saints to enable security sources leaked to the daily mail reveal that there are at least 19 terrorists living at full taxpayer's expense , full taxpayer's expense, including islamic state members who came here in dinghies. including islamic state members who came here in dinghies . but who came here in dinghies. but this is likely to be just the tip of the iceberg . surely it's tip of the iceberg. surely it's time to cry . enough tip of the iceberg. surely it's time to cry. enough is tip of the iceberg. surely it's time to cry . enough is enough tip of the iceberg. surely it's time to cry. enough is enough. so how can we make britain safe again? well, we could declare a national state of emergency to stem the tide of illegals arriving here by dinghy in april , italian premier giorgia meloni did just that. boats filled with illegals were forced to dock in france. we could enforce existing un convention laws on national security and tow boats back to france . we could hold a back to france. we could hold a referendum on the membership of the echr new to the human rights lawyers and deport all terrorists and foreign criminals. we could also even arm the police. but that , my
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arm the police. but that, my friends, that would take guts . friends, that would take guts. and we just don't have gutsy leaders like giorgia meloni in britain . we have spineless sunak britain. we have spineless sunak who shouts at the sea but cannot stop the tide, and a parliament, pubuc stop the tide, and a parliament, public service, judiciary and a mainstream media stuffed with refugees. welcome virtual signallers who are completely out of touch with the public mood . and today we say it's time mood. and today we say it's time to declare a state of emergency dodi. it's time to close our borders to illegals. it's time to make britain safe again . so to make britain safe again. so tonight i am asking how do we make britain safe again? should we close the borders? should we deport all foreign criminals? should we even arm the police? well, let me know what you think. email the usual way. gb views at gb news .com or tweet us, of course, at .
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us, of course, at. gb news. so keeping on that story, is it time to declare a state of emergency? well, i'm joined now by leader of the reform by the leader of the reform party, richard tice, an old sparring partner of mine over in brussels. well, we stuck it to them. we certainly did, martin, good good evening. is good evening. good evening. is it to go full maloney it time to go full maloney because i'm not seeing anything remotely changing despite billions of extra billions of pounds of extra money going into loads of money going into it. loads of hot air, loads of chest puffing , but no decisive action. of course, we should definitely teehate— course, we should definitely declare that _ course, we should definitely declare that there is a national eeeatet— declare that there is a national eeeatet matty— declare that there is a national secured motty threat, which we're entitled _ secured motty threat, which we're entitled to do under hatche— we're entitled to do under article nine— we're entitled to do under article nine of— we're entitled to do under article nine of the un 51 convention. _ article nine of the un 51 convention. ' article nine of the un 51 convention. 33: 1 article nine of the un 51- convention. akua and reform uk. we've been calling this for well over a year now. it's the first part of our six point plan and this is the only plan and we are the only party. martin that will stop the boats. so that's the first thing you have to do. you then make it absolutely clear that zero are allowed to resettle here, that you will have offshore processing centres. but here's the rub . you centres. but here's the rub. you then got to say that you're
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going to have a completely new department of immigration staffed by people who believe in the cause of safe and secure borders. that's absolutely fundamental. and then then on you do what the australians did. you safely pick people up out of the boats and you take them back to france from where they came again, which you're allowed to do. martin under existing international law. so the big question is, richard, if we're allowed to do all of this, why don't we do it? because they are weak. they are feeble, they are gutless . they don't have the gutless. they don't have the courage and the decisive leadership to actually do this and to protect british citizens. you've mentioned some examples. there tragically, there are many , many more examples where asylum seekers who've either outstayed their right to stay or are foreign criminals who haven't been deported , and every haven't been deported, and every single foreign criminal should be deported the moment they leave prison, that they've then gone on to carry out hideous,
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violent and sometimes deadly crimes . and i think the british crimes. and i think the british people actually we have had enough. and they want some action. but it does require guts and there's no guts, frankly, within anywhere near the levers of power in the main, two parties in westminster. okay. let's let's just have a- parties in westminster. okay. let's let's just have a bit- " okay. let's let's just have a bit of hahahee— let's let's just have a bit of hahahee eh— let's let's just have a bit of balance on that. - let's let's just have a bit of balance on that. so people would say,— balance on that. so people would eay, wett— balance on that. so people would eay, wag, ht-e— balance on that. so people would say, well, it's all— balance on that. so people would say, well, it's all fine to say gehhg— say, well, it's all fine to say gehhg te— say, well, it's all fine to say we're going to declare a state of we're going to declare a state at emergency,— we're going to declare a state of emergency, but the lawyers wen-t— of emergency, but the lawyers weh-t etaht— of emergency, but the lawyers won't stand for— of emergency, but the lawyers won't stand for it.— of emergency, but the lawyers won't stand for it. france weh-t — won't stand for it. france won't. they've- won't stand for it. france won't. "c3 gti won't stand for it. france won't. gi won't stand for it. france- won't. they've got nowhere to go. it's in article nine of the un 51 convention. you're entitled to do it. australia did it in 2013 as part of their plan , which is the basis of our plan. and guess what? it worked. and that's because, just to clarify for viewers , is that so clarify for viewers, is that so you declare there's a threat to your national security, which clearly there is. if we know that— clearly there is. if we know that there— clearly there is. if we know that there are _ clearly there is. if we know that there are at— i c"hiil”t'il if we know that there are at least 19 tehethete— that there are at least 19 terrorists within our country, we thew— terrorists within our country, we know that. _ terrorists within our country, we know that. �*ft�*ti; we know that. we know that dozens and dozens of others, for example , i'm the who exposed example, i'm the guy who exposed the albanian scandal of people
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coming from nato country coming from a safe nato country into there in their many, many thousands. into there in their many, many thousands . and sadly, we know thousands. and sadly, we know that many of those have gone on to commit crimes. join drug gangs exposed by the national gangs as exposed by the national crime agency. so look. yes these people can say we're on top of it, but they're clearly not. the backlog is growing. the home office is utterly incompetent and it needs dealing with. what about the money money side of this? because obviously we're egehthhg— this? because obviously we're ehehthhg hthe— this? because obviously we're spending like 617— ti7 because obviously we're spending like 617 who knows how many— spending like 617 who knows how many-haunte— spending like 617 who knows how many-heahte a- spending like 617 who knows how many pounds a week on many million pounds a week on hetehe— many million pounds a week on hetete atehe— many million pounds a week on hotels alone, a— many million pounds a week on hotels alone, a day— many million pounds a week on hotels alone, a day a day, and attehete— hotels alone, a day a day, and offshore processing is talked about— offshore processing is talked aheatltet— offshore processing is talked aboutllot, but— offshore processing is talked about lot, but it's about a lot, but it's continually- about a lot, but it's continually blocked by lawyers, but continually blocked by lawyers, hat-the— continually blocked by lawyers, but the establishment, by the but by the establishment, by the that— but by the establishment, by the hteh .— but by the establishment, by the hteh . aha— but by the establishment, by the blob . and-single- but by the establishment, by the blob . and single person blob. and not a single person hae— blob. and not a single person hae-tet— blob. and not a single person has .for rwanda. - blob. and not a single person has for rwanda. so how has left for rwanda. so how weath— has left for rwanda. so how wewtt thhe— has left for rwanda. so how would this work— has left for rwanda. so how would this work in just say if you— would this work in just say if you ht— would this work in just say if you ht y-e— would this work in just say if you ht ye a— would this work in just say if you if you're a prime minister, haw— you if you're a prime minister, haw weath— you if you're a prime minister, haw wewtt yew— you if you're a prime minister, how would you be— you if you're a prime minister, how would you be able to do what haeh-t— how would you be able to do what haeh-t heeh— how would you be able to do what hasn't been able— how would you be able to do what hasn't been able to— how would you be able to do what hasn't been able to be done by ahyhety— hasn't been able to be done by ahyhetyltaw— hasn't been able to be done by ahyhetyltate — hasn't been able to be done by anybody-far? the- hasn't been able to be done by anybody far? �*" g anybody so far? the first thing is you've got to set up a new department of immigration staffed completely staffed by a completely new team who believe in cause with who believe in the cause with lawyers who believe in the cause as well. the moment you do that
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, it then actually you're into a much better place and you don't have to just use a rwanda, although i was interested that countries like germany, a member of the european union, is now looking at a rwanda plan because they know they've got a problem . also use british . but we could also use british overseas territories, for example . there are a number of example. there are a number of different places where faeroe islands, falklands , there's a islands, falklands, there's a number of different places . number of different places. what about building an island like what about building an island thte-hteheeet— what about building an island like proposed the bill. like boris proposed the bill. hatte— like boris proposed the bill. hate-tet— like boris proposed the bill. hthe-tare - like boris proposed the bill. boris-for ? he- like boris proposed the bill. boris for ? ti; like boris proposed the bill.- boris -for ? he wants an boris island for? he wants an ahtpatt. yeah— boris island for? he wants an airport. yeah, but— boris island for? he wants an airport. yeah, but what- boris island for? ti; yeah, but what about airport. yeah, but what about hwhtthhg— airport. yeah, but what about hwhtthhg ah— airport. yeah, but what about building an island— yeah, but what about building an island where we eewtt— building an island where we could-container- could put a container centre? we could put a container centre? we tan-t— could put a container centre? we tan-t teet— could put a container centre? we don't need to. _ could put a container centre? we don't need to. we've- could put a container centre? we don't need to. we've got existing territories. existing overseas territories. all we can arrangements with all we can do arrangements with rwanda. and let's remember rwanda. and let's remember rwanda was actually praised by un reports for the progress and the help that it's been given in actually supporting refugees from other african countries. what's the mood on the streets about where we're at at the moment? obviously, people are exaehetatet— moment? obviously, people are exasperated and _ moment? obviously, people are exasperated and do— 7 obviously, people are exasperated and do you think we're reaching— exasperated and do you think we're reaching some sort of tipping— we're reaching some sort of tipping pointe— we're reaching some sort of tipping point, sort of tipping point, some sort of want— tipping point, some sort of. hehht—hththeh point where the great british weteehhhg— point where the great british welcoming spirit, the tolerance
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, the— welcoming spirit, the tolerance , the thwetehty— welcoming spirit, the tolerance , the diversity, the— welcoming spirit, the tolerance , the diversity, the welcoming hatwe— , the diversity, the welcoming nature, are we— , the diversity, the welcoming nature, are we seeing that getthhg— nature, are we seeing that getting stretched to the aheetwte — getting stretched to the absolute limit now? ' t: absolute limit now? and that's the tragedy of it, because, yes, we've always been a generous, welcoming, hospitable nation. and we proved it, didn't we, with ukraine last year, women and children, not young men of military age. so we've always had that reputation. but that then becomes diluted or damaged that generosity because we're being abused, we're being exploited , we're being exploited, we're being manipulated by so many people for money and for foot soldiers for money and for foot soldiers for these criminal gangs. and it's got to stop. and i think the mood of the british people is done with this. we've had enough. i spoke to one of these asylum outside hotel enough. i spoke to one of these asleithey outside hotel enough. i spoke to one of these asleithey wentoutside hotel enough. i spoke to one of these asleithey went on side hotel enough. i spoke to one of these asleithey went on strike hotel enough. i spoke to one of these asleithey went on strike because when they went on strike because they weren't happy with the quality bathrooms and the quality of the bathrooms and the wifi. and you think wifi. yeah, and if you think about— wifi. yeah, and if you think ahewt—hatgeei wifi. yeah, and if you think- about _ barges, the about these floating barges, the ee—eattet— about these floating barges, the so—called prison— about these floating barges, the so—called prison bars, they look better— so—called prison bars, they look better-a— so—called prison bars, they look better-anat— so—called prison bars, they look better a of holidays better than a lot of holidays twe— better than a lot of holidays h-we-h-we— better than a lot of holidays i've - i've never- better than a lot of holidays i've i've never afforded to i've had. i've never afforded to get— i've had. i've never afforded to get-eh— i've had. i've never afforded to get-eh a— i've had. i've never afforded to get-eh a pao- i've had. i've never afforded to get on a p&o ferry. get a cabin on a p&o ferry. what— get a cabin on a p&o ferry. what a— get a cabin on a p&o ferry. what a disgrace. _ get a cabin on a p&o ferry. what a disgrace. british construction workers regularly ,
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construction workers regularly, regularly use that same barge when building offshore wind turbines, for example, or other construction projects. what an absolute disgrace for people in westminster to sensei. that's not good enough for the illegal asylum seekers. when british workers already use that very same barge . well, it's hard to same barge. well, it's hard to argue— same barge. well, it's hard to argue whth— same barge. well, it's hard to argue with that. _ titigti; well, it's hard to argue with that. richard twi”gti; well, it's hard to argue with that. richard tice, thaht— argue with that. richard tice, thaht yew— argue with that. richard tice, thank you tet— argue with that. richard tice, thank you for joining argue with that. richard tice, thank you forjoining us argue with that. richard tice, thank you for joining us this ewehhhg— thank you for joining us this evening, leader— thank you for joining us this evening, leader of reform evening, leader of the reform party, _ evening, leader of the reform party at— evening, leader of the reform party et-wett- evening, leader of the reform party, of well, let us evening, leader of the reform party,what well, let us evening, leader of the reform party,what you well, let us evening, leader of the reform party,what you think , let us evening, leader of the reform party,what you think out us evening, leader of the reform party,what you think out there. know what you think out there. seme— know what you think out there. some ettehg— know what you think out there. some strong words there. is it going— some strong words there. is it gehhg tee— some strong words there. is it gehhg tee-ht— some strong words there. is it gehhg tee-ht we- some strong words there. is it going too if we are risking going too far? if we are risking hawhhg— going too far? if we are risking hawhhg-ttate- going too far? if we are risking having-trade war- going too far? if we are risking having trade war with having a bit of a trade war with theahe— having a bit of a trade war with ttaheelthat— having a bit of a trade war with france,.thatlprice- having a bit of a trade war with france, that price worth france, is that a price worth paying?— france, is that a price worth hayhhge—wetti paying? let us know. well, eehhhg— paying? let us know. well,- coming—continuing coming up, we'll be continuing on coming up, we'll be continuing eh—what- on our reflections. what happened— on our reflections. what happened this week happened in nottingham this week as a happened in nottingham this week ae-a theater— happened in nottingham this week as-a broader look- happened in nottingham this week as a broader look at as well as a broader look at eeehat— as well as a broader look at social cohesion— as well as a broader look at social cohesion in britain's communities.— social cohesion in britain's communities. of beyond communities. author of beyond ehewahee— communities. author of beyond ehewahee g. — communities. author of beyond grievance, dr. raqeeb hassan tethe— grievance, dr. raqeeb hassan the he— grievance, dr. raqeeb hassan tehhe he-thhe— grievance, dr. raqeeb hassan joins me this break. joins me after this break. hteaee— joins me after this break. please-around-
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listening to gb news radio . on listening to gb news radio. on mark dolan tonight in my big opinion, my first on air reaction to the witch hunt against boris johnson. i won't be pulling my punches- itgit “t i won't be pulling my punches and you went— be pulling my punches and you went waht— be pulling my punches and you went waht te— be pulling my punches and you won't want to miss it. we'll
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eheat— won't want to miss it. we'll eheat te— won't want to miss it. we'll eheat to the— won't want to miss it. we'll speak to the teacher who was atheet— speak to the teacher who was almost fired— speak to the teacher who was almost fired by— speak to the teacher who was almost fired by an ultra woke eeheet— almost fired by an ultra woke eeheet ehhhty— almost fired by an ultra woke school simply for— almost fired by an ultra woke school simply for teaching ehhttteh— school simply for teaching children the— school simply for teaching children the birds and the bees - my— children the birds and the bees . thy mah— children the birds and the bees . thy hep heete— children the birds and the bees . my mop meets guest is acting tegeht— . my mop meets guest is acting legend amanda— . my mop meets guest is acting legend amanda barrie. star of the carry— legend amanda barrie. star of the cawy oh— legend amanda barrie. star of the carry on films and coronation— the carry on films and coronation street. plus, in my tate— coronation street. plus, in my take at— coronation street. plus, in my take at teh— coronation street. plus, in my take at ten, i'll— coronation street. plus, in my take at ten, i'll be dealing whth— take at ten, i'll be dealing with bumbling— take at ten, i'll be dealing with bumbling joe biden. and get— with bumbling joe biden. and get the— with bumbling joe biden. and we've got the papers, my top hwhthte— we've got the papers, my top hwhthte aha— we've got the papers, my top pundits and tv— we've got the papers, my top pundits and tv news legend john sergeant— pundits and tv news legend john sergeaht .— pundits and tv news legend john sergeaht . wette— pundits and tv news legend john sergeant . we're live from aids . sergeant. we're live from aids. iweteame— sergeant. we're live from aids. i welcome back. _ sergeant. we're live from aids. . welcome back. i'm - sergeant. we're live from aids. welcome back. i'm martin daubney in fox. daubney in for laurence fox. well, like me, are you sick to the back teeth of identity politics? the notion that your skin colour should dictate the way you vote or how you think or how you even talk to your friends. what if. so you love our next guest, dr. raqib hassan, whose new book, beyond grievance what the left gets wrong about ethnic minorities, was published this week. dr.
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hassan , welcome to the show. hassan, welcome to the show. it's great to have you on. fabulous looking book. very brave . you're speaking out about brave. you're speaking out about things people things that normally get people like lot of hot water. like you in a lot of hot water. can we start with the notion of where did identity politics come from ? i think it's because the from? i think it's because the liberal left realised the working classes were no more used to them because they realised that capitalism was the way out. they invented a new way out. so they invented a new grievance system to divide and conquer. anyway, that's enough of white splaining. what's of me. white splaining. what's your take? well, my take, hawth— your take? well, my take, watthh he— your take? well, my take, martin, is well,— ” 7 well, my take, martin, is well, firstly, all the— martin, is well, firstly, all the insults— martin, is well, firstly, all the insults i've- martin, is well, firstly, all the insults i've received over the— the insults i've received over the heat— the insults i've received over the heat he— the insults i've received over the book is very— the insults i've received over the book is very much water off a twat-e— the book is very much water off a twat-e hath.— the book is very much water off a duck's back. really i think that— a duck's back. really i think that he— a duck's back. really i think that one thing— a duck's back. really i think that one thing that i really thethte— that one thing that i really dislike about— that one thing that i really dislike about contempt every tetthet— dislike about contempt every leftist politics— dislike about contempt every leftist politics is— dislike about contempt every leftist politics is the fact that— leftist politics is the fact that wee— leftist politics is the fact that we're seeing this toxic taehat— that we're seeing this toxic racial identity— that we're seeing this toxic racial identity politics being hhhettet— racial identity politics being imported from _ racial identity politics being imported from the united states and the— imported from the united states and the argument— imported from the united states and the argument i make in the heat— and the argument i make in the heat he— and the argument i make in the book is actually— and the argument i make in the book is actually that fragments the hththeh — book is actually that fragments the british working classes and what— the british working classes and what h— the british working classes and what h want— the british working classes and what i want to— the british working classes and what i want to see and i'm sure that— what i want to see and i'm sure that what— what i want to see and i'm sure that what yea-t— what i want to see and i'm sure that what you'd like to see as wett— that what you'd like to see as
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wet hate— that what you'd like to see as well, mine is— that what you'd like to see as well, mine is a— that what you'd like to see as well, mine is a mature labour party— well, mine is a mature labour htatty whheh— well, mine is a mature labour party which represents the ehatet— party which represents the shared economic concerns and eeehat— shared economic concerns and social grievance— shared economic concerns and social grievance forces which thet— social grievance forces which thet together— social grievance forces which tied together britain's multiracial— tied together britain's multiracial working classes. and i multiracial working classes. and t that— multiracial working classes. and t that at— multiracial working classes. and hthhht at the— multiracial working classes. and i think at the moment, and i teet— i think at the moment, and i teet that— i think at the moment, and i feel that the— i think at the moment, and i feel that the labour party is teethhg— feel that the labour party is teethhg tee— feel that the labour party is looking too much to its ideological— looking too much to its ideological counterparts in the us ideological counterparts in the us ae— ideological counterparts in the us ae ehgeeet— ideological counterparts in the us as opposed to— ideological counterparts in the us as opposed to focusing on the heat— us as opposed to focusing on the treat aha— us as opposed to focusing on the bread and butter— us as opposed to focusing on the bread and butter issues in hthtahh— bread and butter issues in britain today— bread and butter issues in britain today. - bread and butter issues in britain today . “4:3?" t britain today. yeah, i mean, i agree with that. i mean, i was a labour party voter for 20 odd years. i come from a very white working background working class background and i found me were hated found people like me were hated by party. didn't leave the by the party. i didn't leave the labour left back labour party. they left me back to the notion of people should vote along lines of their colour. there's this, this, this apprehension . you need to vote apprehension. you need to vote labour if you're a black ethnic minority. it's nonsense, isn't it? we saw, for example, the brexit referendum 40% of beams, as they're called, voted for brexit. more people voted for brexit. more people voted for brexit in london than voted for sadiq khan. as london mayor how do we get out of this? also in the states, this idea that you must vote for the democrat party
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if you're black, kanye west, of course, causing of trouble course, causing a lot of trouble about we break this about that. how do we break this mentality ? motty it would be mentality? motty it would be very difficult, martin, because in some ways, this mentality , in some ways, this mentality, this toxic mentality has become embedded and, um, among among elements of the british political left and i think that is a serious problem that people expect voters to subscribe to a particular set of liberal values , jus purely because on the purely on the basis of the colour of their skin, i think that kind of that kind of mentality has no place in a mature, multiracial democracy . mature, multiracial democracy. and i think what i argue for in the heat. — and i think what i argue for in the book. martin— and i think what i argue for in the book. martin is actually the tahew— the book. martin is actually the tahew patty— the book. martin is actually the labour party needs to be more then— labour party needs to be more open-embracing— labour party needs to be more open embracing the open to embracing the traditional— open to embracing the traditional of faith, traditional triad of faith, tahhty— traditional triad of faith, tahhty aha— traditional triad of faith, family and flag. many ethnic hhhehty— family and flag. many ethnic minority people— family and flag. many ethnic minority people in britain do not eee— minority people in britain do not see themselves as victims as they— they appreciate the opportunities , protections and opportunities, protections and theetehe— opportunities, protections and theetehe-te- opportunities, protections and freedoms to them under freedoms afforded to them under hththeh— freedoms afforded to them under british democracy— freedoms afforded to them under british democracy .— freedoms afforded to them under british democracy . and if you british democracy. and if you away— british democracy. and if you aetaatty ht— british democracy. and if you actually if you _ british democracy. and if you actually if you see a number of eeehat— actually if you see a number of eeehat aha— actually if you see a number of social and economic metrics, you have— social and economic metrics, you
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hawelhwhhet— social and economic metrics, you hawelhwhhet et— social and economic metrics, you have number of ethnic minority have a number of ethnic minority greate— have a number of ethnic minority groups outperforming have a number of ethnic minority group british tutperforming have a number of ethnic minority group british mainstream] have a number of ethnic minority group british mainstream , which white british mainstream, which is white british mainstream, which he weeheety— white british mainstream, which he weeheety-h— white british mainstream, which is precisely-i say- white british mainstream, which is precisely i say that the is precisely why i say that the tett— is precisely why i say that the tett-te — is precisely why i say that the tett-te ta — is precisely why i say that the left-to do away- is precisely why i say that the left to do away with toxic left needs to do away with toxic , whhte— left needs to do away with toxic , white, privileged— left needs to do away with toxic , white, privileged theories whheh— , white, privileged theories which imported , white, privileged theories- which-imported from which are being imported from the-statee. — which are being imported from the-states. yeah,- which are being imported from the states. yeah, i mean, the united states. yeah, i mean, that-e— the united states. yeah, i mean, that-e-hy— the united states. yeah, i mean, that-e-hy - the united states. yeah, i mean, that's-my ears. i've. that's music to my ears. i've teen— that's music to my ears. i've beaten—- that's music to my ears. i've been _on whitel that's music to my ears. i've been class on white that's music to my ears. i've been class lads on white that's music to my ears. i've been class lads in white working class lads in particular. of particular. the bottom of education 25 straight years. education for 25 straight years. the highest performers in britain are indian and britain now are indian and chinese kids. so clearly there's no problems. one one thing i love about your book, as well is identifying this problem. we can all agree on. you've some all agree on. you've got some great solutions. one thing i absolutely this absolutely love is this notion of family stability act , the of a family stability act, the nofion of a family stability act, the notion of celebrating family. and you've got some eye—watering statistics there about about the absolute explosion in the number of single parent families in britain. tell us about that . britain. tell us about that. absolutely. and firstly , i'll absolutely. and firstly, i'll hate— absolutely. and firstly, i'll make the— absolutely. and firstly, i'll make the point, motty. and i that— make the point, motty. and i that that— make the point, motty. and i think that there's there is ehhgte— think that there's there is single mothers across the country.— single mothers across the country. they— single mothers across the country. they fantastic job country. they do a fantastic job aha— country. they do a fantastic job and they— country. they do a fantastic job aht they eewe— country. they do a fantastic job and they serve their children to the teet— and they serve their children to the heet et— and they serve their children to the best of their— and they serve their children to the best of their ability. but the— the best of their ability. but the teathty— the best of their ability. but the reality is— the best of their ability. but the reality is what i'm talking about— the reality is what i'm talking about here— the reality is what i'm talking about here is— the reality is what i'm talking about here is that there are eettahh— about here is that there are certain family— about here is that there are
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certain family structures which are—associated. are more strongly associated whth— are more strongly associated whth-yewth- are more strongly associated with youth outcomes, are more strongly associated with that'south outcomes, are more strongly associated with that's inth outcomes, are more strongly associated with that's in education, s, are more strongly associated with that's in education, in whether that's in education, in eeghhthwe— whether that's in education, in cognitive development , mental cognitive development, mental wett—hehhg— cognitive development, mental well—being, and— cognitive development, mental well—being, and then further tawn— well—being, and then further down the— well—being, and then further down the line,— well—being, and then further down the line, socioeconomic wegteee— down the line, socioeconomic wagteee .— down the line, socioeconomic wagteee . wee.— down the line, socioeconomic progress . yes. and i think the progress. yes. and i think the want— progress. yes. and i think the what that— progress. yes. and i think the what that h— progress. yes. and i think the point that i make in this book is point that i make in this book he that— point that i make in this book he that a— point that i make in this book is that a stable— point that i make in this book is that a stable two parent at heme— is that a stable two parent at heme he— is that a stable two parent at heme he that— is that a stable two parent at home is that model, which is a eewhte— home is that model, which is a couple married— home is that model, which is a couple married couple is aetwatty— couple married couple is actually the— couple married couple is actually the model which is most ettehgty— actually the model which is most strongly associated— actually the model which is most strongly associated with those heehthwe— strongly associated with those eeehthwe yeath — strongly associated with those positive youth outcomes. so the tahew— positive youth outcomes. so the tahew patty,— positive youth outcomes. so the labour party, there's a great teat— labour party, there's a great teat et— labour party, there's a great deal of talk— labour party, there's a great deal of talk within the labour party— deal of talk within the labour party aheat— deal of talk within the labour party about introducing a new tate— party about introducing a new htaee tgwathty— party about introducing a new race equality act, but actually i race equality act, but actually hthhmt— race equality act, but actually hthhmt that— race equality act, but actually i think that britain, considering it's a major international- considering it's a major international hotspot when it te— international hotspot when it comes to breakdown , comes to family breakdown, hemaee— comes to family breakdown, hemaee a— comes to family breakdown, perhaps a better idea would be the introduction— perhaps a better idea would be the introduction of a family stahhthty— the introduction of a family stability act— the introduction of a family stability act that would stability act and that would hmetwte— stability act and that would include introducing family tthemtty— include introducing family friendly protections british friendly protections for british wetetet— friendly protections for british workers , promoting the workers, promoting the institution _ workers, promoting the institution marriage within institution of marriage within the tax— institution of marriage within the tax system,— institution of marriage within the tax system, which would ehhg— the tax system, which would hthmg—hhi bring britain pretty much in the—et- bring britain pretty much in line—of europe. bring britain pretty much in line—of europe .i bring britain pretty much in. line—of europe . and bring britain pretty much in- line_of europe . and i line with much of europe. and i that— line with much of europe. and i thhmt-we— line with much of europe. and i think-we should- line with much of europe. and i think we should maybe think that we should maybe have a—whhehl a new government unit, which teatty— a new government unit, which teatty teete— a new government unit, which really looks at— a new government unit, which really looks at the policy hmhaete— really looks at the policy hmeaete em— really looks at the policy impacts on family stability, whether— impacts on family stability, whether that's— impacts on family stability, whether that's health care,
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heaehmg— whether that's health care, housing, employment or crime. i that— housing, employment or crime. i that that— housing, employment or crime. i think that would— housing, employment or crime. i think that would be a really heehthwe— think that would be a really eeehthwe eteh— think that would be a really positive step in— think that would be a really positive step in the right thaeethem— positive step in the right direction in— positive step in the right direction in terms of social petty.— direction in terms of social eethey.|meam— direction in terms of social policy. mean, these are old policy. i mean, these are old taehhemet— policy. i mean, these are old fashioned conservative values in many— fashioned conservative values in many senses. but— fashioned conservative values in many senses. t:t:3t fashioned conservative values in many senses. gti many senses. but how do we get around the fact i mean, i actually heard david lammy say something once. it's something sensible once. it's true person . when the lammy true in person. when the lammy report came out, he did a fantastic section that about fantastic section in that about the effect of fatherlessness on outcomes of education. all the things you just mentioned, it was very quickly buried because because it didn't sit well with a lot of labour voters who might be single parents, families who might be from ethnic minorities . how do you gel these progressive, sensible policies with a party that seems very resistant to that kind of thinking ? well, the reality is thinking? well, the reality is that— thinking? well, the reality is that the— thinking? well, the reality is that the labour— tg7’ well, the reality is that the labour party, there's a heat— that the labour party, there's a teat there-e— that the labour party, there's a teat there-e a— that the labour party, there's a real there's a real— that the labour party, there's a real there's a real shortage of meat— real there's a real shortage of meat .— real there's a real shortage of moral , political— real there's a real shortage of moral , political leadership on moral, political leadership on the hththeh— moral, political leadership on the british left. _ moral, political leadership on the british left. and i think that— the british left. and i think that et— the british left. and i think that of course,— the british left. and i think that of course, for example, when— that of course, for example, when yew— that of course, for example, when yew a— that of course, for example, when you a serious controversy tac— when you a serious controversy we each— when you a serious controversy tac eweh ae— when you a serious controversy rac such as the— when you a serious controversy rac such as the windrush scandal , they— rac such as the windrush scandal t they have—
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rac such as the windrush scandal t they have te— rac such as the windrush scandal t they have te he— rac such as the windrush scandal , they have to be addressed. and i , they have to be addressed. and t that— , they have to be addressed. and t that that— , they have to be addressed. and i think that that's— , they have to be addressed. and i think that that's done untold tamage— i think that that's done untold tamage te— i think that that's done untold damage to institutional trust whthhm— damage to institutional trust within communities of black cathhheam— within communities of black caribbean origin. but saying that— caribbean origin. but saying that h— caribbean origin. but saying that i think— caribbean origin. but saying that i think one— caribbean origin. but saying that i think one of the biggest htehteme— that i think one of the biggest problems faced— that i think one of the biggest problems faced young black cathhheah— problems faced young black caribbean origin communities in the eewmtty— caribbean origin communities in the eewmttylthe— caribbean origin communities in the country the fact that the country is the fact that ehhtttem— the country is the fact that children of _ the country is the fact that children of black caribbean ethghht— children of black caribbean ethghht eet/e— children of black caribbean origin, 63% live— children of black caribbean origin, 63% live in lone parent heaeehette— origin, 63% live in lone parent heweehette t— origin, 63% live in lone parent households , and— origin, 63% live in lone parent households , and that drops all households, and that drops all the way— households, and that drops all the way te— households, and that drops all the way to down _ households, and that drops all the way to down 6% for their team— the way to down 6% for their indian heritage— the way to down 6% for their indian heritage peers . and i indian heritage peers. and i that— indian heritage peers. and i think that's— indian heritage peers. and i think that's a— indian heritage peers. and i think that's a big point i make in think that's a big point i make he the— think that's a big point i make he the heet— think that's a big point i make in the book is— think that's a big point i make in the book is that that's eteeheety— in the book is that that's eteeheety why— in the book is that that's precisely why i don't like the hawt— precisely why i don't like the owe—ag- precisely why i don't like the bame_all.thei bame acronym at all in the etheet— bame acronym at all in the slice,-there's- bame acronym at all in the slice, there's some bame acronym at all in the- slice,-there's some very slice, because there's some very serious differences between whthhm— serious differences between within minorities serious differences betweeni within-minorities. within our ethnic minorities. amt— within our ethnic minorities. me that— within our ethnic minorities. me that hm— within our ethnic minorities. and that in turn— within our ethnic minorities. and that in turn feeds into heat— and that in turn feeds into racial disparities that we see tamghmg— racial disparities that we see tahghhg them — racial disparities that we see ranging from education to emeteymemt— ranging from education to employment. how how damaging do you employment. how how damaging do yew thhmt— employment. how how damaging do you think identity— employment. how how damaging do you think identity politics has teem— you think identity politics has been te— you think identity politics has been te the— you think identity politics has been to the fabric of britain ? been to the fabric of britain? oh,— been to the fabric of britain? oh h— been to the fabric of britain? oh h thhmt— been to the fabric of britain? oh, i think it's— been to the fabric of britain? oh, i think it's been- been to the fabric of britain? oh, i think it's been hugely damaging. ithink oh, i think it's been hugely damaging. i think that the emergence of— damaging. i think that the emergence of the- : g g i think that the emergence of the black lives hatter— emergence of the black lives matter movement, i think that it very— matter movement, i think that it very much— matter movement, i think that it very much threatened to set back race relations— very much threatened to set back race relations as— very much threatened to set back race relations as opposed to improving— race relations as opposed to improving them— race relations as opposed to improving them in this country. i improving them in this country. h teet— improving them in this country. h teet a— improving them in this country. h teet a tet— improving them in this country. i took a lot of— improving them in this country. i took a lot of flak— improving them in this country. i took a lot of flak when i eththeheet— i took a lot of flak when i criticised blm_ i took a lot of flak when i criticised blm following the
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hethee— criticised blm following the police killing _ criticised blm following the police killing of george floyd in police killing of george floyd he the— police killing of george floyd he the us— police killing of george floyd in the us state— police killing of george floyd in the us state of minnesota. hat— in the us state of minnesota. hat hat.— in the us state of minnesota. hat hat. hat.— in the us state of minnesota. but but. but. the— in the us state of minnesota. but but. but. the reality is that— but but. but. the reality is that ht— but but. but. the reality is that if people— but but. but. the reality is that if people truly care about young— that if people truly care about yewmg htaet— that if people truly care about young black lives in britain , young black lives in britain, eeeeehatty— young black lives in britain, eeeeehatty hh— young black lives in britain, especially in london, they they-ht— especially in london, they they-tt tatt— especially in london, they they'll talk a— especially in london, they they'll talk a lot more about tamhty— they'll talk a lot more about family structure.— they'll talk a lot more about family structure. they will talk ahewt— family structure. they will talk more about fatherlessness heeawee— more about fatherlessness heeawee hm— more about fatherlessness because in the— more about fatherlessness because in the absence of a teeeemehhte— because in the absence of a responsible work— because in the absence of a responsible work male role model in responsible work male role model he the— responsible work male role model in the household— responsible work male role model in the household ,_ responsible work male role model in the household , then young in the household, then young heye— in the household, then young heye whtt— in the household, then young boys will seek— in the household, then young boys will seek that sense of hetemghhg— boys will seek that sense of belonging and— boys will seek that sense of belonging and rootedness eteewheae— belonging and rootedness elsewhere. and unfortunately, that— elsewhere. and unfortunately, that may— elsewhere. and unfortunately, that may wett— elsewhere. and unfortunately, that may well come home of gang memhetehhh— that may well come home of gang membership and— that may well come home of gang membership and ultimately being a emhe— membership and ultimately being a emhe et— membership and ultimately being a emte et a— membership and ultimately being a member of a gang significantly hehghtehe— a member of a gang significantly hehghtehe a— a member of a gang significantly heightens a young— a member of a gang significantly heightens a young person's involvement— heightens a young person's involvement in— heightens a young person's involvement in criminal aethwhty— involvement in criminal activity. now,- involvement in criminal activity. now, these are very eemehthwe— activity. now, these are very sensitive issues,— activity. now, these are very sensitive issues, and they are they— sensitive issues, and they are they ae— sensitive issues, and they are they are difficult— sensitive issues, and they are they are difficult conversations to they are difficult conversations te te— they are difficult conversations te te hat— they are difficult conversations te te hat .— they are difficult conversations to be had . but— they are difficult conversations to be had . but if— they are difficult conversations to be had . but if we don't have to be had. but if we don't have them— to be had. but if we don't have them were— to be had. but if we don't have them, we're not— to be had. but if we don't have them, we're not we're doing many young— them, we're not we're doing many yemg teette— them, we're not we're doing many yemg teette hh— them, we're not we're doing many yemg teette hm ew— them, we're not we're doing many young people in our country a fundamental— young people in our country a fundamental disservice . fundamental disservice. okay, thtth— fundamental disservice. okay, thtth weave— fundamental disservice. okay, rikki neave, you're speaking acres and acres of common sense. thank you very much. you'll never catch on. well, hope it never catch on. well, i hope it does. you very much. the does. thank you very much. the book now grievance book is out now beyond grievance what wrong about what the left gets wrong about ethnic minorities. well, coming up, the other defining
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up, it's the other defining story week, course. story of the week, of course. bods story of the week, of course. boris johnson as an boris johnson has resigned as an mp partygate inquiry was mp and the partygate inquiry was published yesterday. published just yesterday. we'll be panel next. could be asking our panel next. could this the end for boris this be the end for boris johnson after this
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patrick christys on gb news. i'm gb patrick christys on gb news. i'm et wewe— patrick christys on gb news. i'm et wewe tatte— patrick christys on gb news. i'm gb news radio .— patrick christys on gb news. i'm gb news radio . welcome back. gb news radio. welcome back. i'm gb news radio. welcome back. h-m hamm— gb news radio. welcome back. i'm martin daubney— gb news radio. welcome back. i'm martin daubney in- gb news radio. welcome back. i'm martin daubney in for- i'm martin daubney in for lawrence fox. well, i asked you earlier how do we make britain safe again? should we close the borders, deport all foreign criminals? should we even arm the police? while you've been
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getting with your getting in touch with your thoughts in your droves, first getting in touch with your thois hts in your droves, first getting in touch with your thois martin,our droves, first getting in touch with your thois martin, notdroves, first getting in touch with your thois martin, not me es, first getting in touch with your thois martin, not me .s, first getting in touch with your thois martin, not me . we rst off is martin, not me. we should. we should declare a state of emergency on our borders and temporarily close state of emergency on our borde andid temporarily close state of emergency on our borde and completelyily close state of emergency on our borde and completely ignore e state of emergency on our borde and completely ignore the them and completely ignore the echr. but as you highlighted, martin, the current cabinet and labour are terrified of any criticism and will not take the decisive action required. next point from taz. he says most of our country's problems are being copied from america. it's time we stood up for ourselves here, here next point from nina ricci is a gutless, weak prime minister nina, speak your mind freely. a bit more next time. who wasn't voted into that position in the first place? we need a leader who will take action and not let off hot air and on the topic of boris morris says boris is being bullied by parliament by any definition , parliament by any definition, constantly picking on somebody is bullying. well that's your thoughts. it's been quite an eventful week in westminster. some laughter to my left and right panels about to kick in
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because just hours before boris johnson resigned as an mp last week, his resignation honours were published, which led to a pubuc were published, which led to a public squabble between the former and current prime minister. then when boris did resign, he publicly lambasted the privileges committee for what he deemed to be a witch hunt and a kangaroo court , where hunt and a kangaroo court, where the public will have teetering on the edge of their seats awaiting the publication of that report with delays setting in as a result of printing problems, of all things . and finally, just of all things. and finally, just yesterday, the report was published and it had recommended a suspension of 90 days, a sanction well past the threshold of ten days that could have allowed boris constituents to trigger a by—election if a majority in parliament had approved it. well none of that matters now because he's resigned , of course, but resigned, of course, but parliament will vote on monday, irrespective of whether to let the to back the reports recommendations, which also include permanently removing bods include permanently removing boris paul coyte mentary pass
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all of this poses much broader questions, the most crucial of which is being is this the end for boris johnson? well joining me now to hopefully answer this question is the former editor of the sunday mirror, paul coney, and the political commentator benjamin loughnan. so hello to you both. let's start with you , you both. let's start with you, paul you both. let's start with you, paul, because you were away there . has been unfairly there. has boris been unfairly treated by a kangaroo court or is he a coward that deserted the battlefield? and it's not even over for him? because guess what? he just landed a whopping massive column with the massive new column with the daily mail. i was just beginning teathmg— daily mail. i was just beginning teathmg hhe— daily mail. i was just beginning reading his column— daily mail. i was just beginning reading his column in- tit 3 my? c i was just beginning reading his column in the daily watt— reading his column in the daily that what— reading his column in the daily mail, which doesn't include metee— unless they're holding something tact.— unless they're holding something taett—ht-e- unless they're holding something taett—ht-e att- back. any politics? it's all ateut— back. any politics? it's all about-battle- back. any politics? it's all about-battle to - back. any politics? it's all about battle to find about his battle to find a wemte— about his battle to find a wonder drug— about his battle to find a wonder drug to lose weight. and it's wonder drug to lose weight. and he tutt— wonder drug to lose weight. and he tutt et— wonder drug to lose weight. and it's full of references to tetthe— it's full of references to brutus and— it's full of references to brutus and cassius . but i had it's full of references to brutus and cassius. but i had a eett— brutus and cassius. but i had a eett et— brutus and cassius. but i had a eett et me— brutus and cassius. but i had a eett et h— brutus and cassius. but i had a sort of no, i don't— brutus and cassius. but i had a sort of no, i don't think he's i h-m met— sort of no, i don't think he's i mean, i'm not sure- sort of no, i don't think he's i mean, i'm not sure about whether 90 mean, i'm not sure about whether to eaye— mean, i'm not sure about whether to taye wae— mean, i'm not sure about whether to taye hm— mean, i'm not sure about whether 90 days was in order— mean, i'm not sure about whether 90 days was in order anyway , but 90 days was in order anyway, but he teeewet— 90 days was in order anyway, but he deserved what— 90 days was in order anyway, but he deserved what he got. and i'm that— he deserved what he got. and i'm that the— he deserved what he got. and i'm sure that the 90— he deserved what he got. and i'm sure that the 90 days came about
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as sure that the 90 days came about ae a teeth— sure that the 90 days came about ae a teeutt et— sure that the 90 days came about as a result of his.— sure that the 90 days came about as a result of his. i— sure that the 90 days came about as a result of his. i thought it memhhmg— as a result of his. i thought it was morphing into donald trump, aetuattyt— was morphing into donald trump, aetuattyt whth— was morphing into donald trump, actually, with with— was morphing into donald trump, actually, with with kangaroo eewte— actually, with with kangaroo eewte t— actually, with with kangaroo eewte t yet — actually, with with kangaroo courts , you know, and stitch ups courts, you know, and stitch ups . amt— courts, you know, and stitch ups . me yet— courts, you know, and stitch ups . amtt yee thew— courts, you know, and stitch ups . and, you know, it— courts, you know, and stitch ups . and, you know, it was it was gutte— . and, you know, it was it was quite extraordinary. and i think i quite extraordinary. and i think t that— quite extraordinary. and i think i think monday,— quite extraordinary. and i think i think monday, of course , is i think monday, of course, is the— i think monday, of course, is the teth— i think monday, of course, is his 59th birthday, where he wemt— his 59th birthday, where he went te— his 59th birthday, where he won't be there,— his 59th birthday, where he won't be there, of course. but the— won't be there, of course. but the cemmee— won't be there, of course. but the commons will— won't be there, of course. but the commons will be voting. i hat— the commons will be voting. i hat a— the commons will be voting. i hat a ettamge— the commons will be voting. i had a strange dream last night. i had a strange dream last night. h hmaghmet— had a strange dream last night. i imagined that— had a strange dream last night. i imagined that nadine dorries, of course, missed— i imagined that nadine dorries, of course, missed out on her. tethe— of course, missed out on her. tethe etamet— of course, missed out on her. boris planned knighthood would jump— boris planned knighthood would jump “pt— boris planned knighthood would jump to treat— boris planned knighthood would jump up, break parliamentary eete— jump up, break parliamentary eete amt— jump up, break parliamentary eete amt ehhg— jump up, break parliamentary code and sing happy birthday to the ateemt— code and sing happy birthday to the absent boris— code and sing happy birthday to the absent boris .— code and sing happy birthday to the absent boris . but that maybe the absent boris. but that maybe that-e— the absent boris. but that maybe that teet— the absent boris. but that maybe that heet my— the absent boris. but that maybe that's just my illusion. yeah wett— that's just my illusion. yeah wettt h— that's just my illusion. yeah well, i mean,— that's just my illusion. yeah well, i mean, for— that's just my illusion. yeah well, i mean, for starters, where— well, i mean, for starters, whete te— well, i mean, for starters, where do you— well, i mean, for starters, where do you go from, from, from that— where do you go from, from, from that that— where do you go from, from, from that, that, that,— where do you go from, from, from that, that, that, that dream. i thhht— that, that, that, that dream. i thmt yea— that, that, that, that dream. i think you should— that, that, that, that dream. i think you should ask- that, that, that, that dream. i think you should ask for- think you should ask for a refund on his weight loss drugs. because they don't to have because they don't seem to have worked. but on a serious worked. but but on a serious note, benjamin has he been, you know royally stitched up know right. royally stitched up because everyone this because because everyone this exit has allowed him , hasn't it, exit has allowed him, hasn't it, that wiggle room. well it was all a stitch up. i had to fall on my sword first. but has he
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really deserted really just deserted the battlefield? think he's battlefield? well, i think he's done certainly done things wrong. he certainly needs-punished- done things wrong. he certainly needs-punished for- done things wrong. he certainly needs-punished for how. : tgti g he certainly needs punished for how he needs to be punished for how he hm— needs to be punished for how he hm etthee— needs to be punished for how he was in office when— needs to be punished for how he was in office when he was prime thhmhetet— was in office when he was prime whmhetett-he— was in office when he was prime minister.-he made- was in office when he was prime minister. he made some minister. i think he made some key mhetateet— minister. i think he made some key mistakes, don't think key mistakes, but i don't think what—tet- key mistakes, but i don't think what—tea mewi key mistakes, but i don't think. what—for now is what he's being done for now is t what he's being done for now is , you— what he's being done for now is t yet-tamthmg— , you know, ramping up immigration— , you know, ramping up immigration ,- , you know, ramping up immigration , locking up immigration, locking up the emhe— immigration, locking up the entire country. _ immigration, locking up the entire country. we now know with the-etteete— entire country. we now know with the - effects - came - the adverse effects that came them— the adverse effects that came them ht— the adverse effects that came them ht wae— the adverse effects that came from it was probably the wrong teehehem. — from it was probably the wrong decision. .did_ from it was probably the wrong decision. did make mistakes decision. he did make mistakes in decision. he did make mistakes hm ettheet— decision. he did make mistakes hm ettheet tut— decision. he did make mistakes in office, but-don't- decision. he did make mistakes in office, but don't seem in office, but they don't seem to.investigating- in office, but they don't seem to investigating that. to be investigating that. they-te— to be investigating that. they're and they're investigating cakes and thtthtay— they're investigating cakes and thtthtay-h— they're investigating cakes and birthday-i think,- birthday parties. i think, you thew— birthday parties. i think, you thew-hae— birthday parties. i think, you know,-haslpoint- birthday parties. i think, you know, has point in the know, boris has a point in the eemee-he-e— know, boris has a point in the sense - he's being - know, boris has a point in the sense he's being done over sense that he's being done over a - peccadilloes. - sense that he's being done over a-peccadilloes. but. a tiny little peccadilloes. but in a tiny little peccadilloes. but he teathtyt— a tiny little peccadilloes. but he teathtyt he— a tiny little peccadilloes. but in reality, he has— a tiny little peccadilloes. but in reality, he has actually done gutte— in reality, he has actually done guhte a— in reality, he has actually done guhte a tet— in reality, he has actually done quite a lot wrong. : quite a lot wrong. i wonder actually, if he's going to be happy about fact. he's got happy about that fact. he's got a gig now. fact, a newspaper gig now. in fact, we've got a short video here. we can can play of boris can we can play of boris accepting this and he calls accepting this gig. and he calls another kerfuffle because he didn't parliament until didn't tell parliament until half check this half an hour before. check this out. folks. boris half an hour before. check this out. folks. bodsjohnson out. hi folks. bodsjohnson heae. — out. hi folks. bodsjohnson heae. h— out. hi folks. bodsjohnson heae. ham— out. hi folks. bodsjohnson here. i am thrilled to be asked to contribute a column to the daily mail and i can tell you readers of the daily mail that it is going to be exact shortly. what i think about the world. it
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is going to be completely unexpurgated stuff . i'm going to unexpurgated stuff. i'm going to be writing whatever i want. i may even have to cover politics them — may even have to cover politics them thme— may even have to cover politics them thme te — may even have to cover politics from time to time,— may even have to cover politics from time to time, but i'll etwheuety— from time to time, but i'll etwheeety tay— from time to time, but i'll obviously try to - from time to time, but i'll obviously try to do that as thttte— obviously try to do that as thttte ae— obviously try to do that as little as possible unless i ateetutety— little as possible unless i absolutely have to. ' tt: little as possible unless i- absolutely have to. and i'm much looking forward to making my first contribution to those illustrious pages on saturday. join me in the daily mail on saturday. all right, that'll do the— saturday. all right, that'll do the t — saturday. all right, that'll do the t wett— saturday. all right, that'll do fine . well, there— saturday. all right, that'll do fine . well, there we- saturday. all right, that'll do fine . well, there we go. that's fine. well, there we go. that's bods fine. well, there we go. that's boris being boris again. it's worth pointing out, of course , worth pointing out, of course, paul worth pointing out, of course, paul, that the parliamentary standards committee said that bods standards committee said that boris has breached rules by not consulting them before we just took the gig. but as a former newspaper man, you have to admit that boris having a column in the mail is a good fit and he will be able to lob grenades at the tory party from the sidelines and cause absolute bedlam. yes i was aware this morning i said he'd been. the mail had given him a- tg the mail had given him a sniper's heet— mail had given him a sniper's meet whth— mail had given him a sniper's nest with which— mail had given him a sniper's nest with which he could
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aetuatty— nest with which he could actually pepper rishi sunak when he— actually pepper rishi sunak when ever he wanted— actually pepper rishi sunak when ever he wanted ,_ actually pepper rishi sunak when ever he wanted , but he has to be ever he wanted, but he has to be very— ever he wanted, but he has to be very eatetut— ever he wanted, but he has to be very careful because there are a gtewhmg— very careful because there are a gtewhmg mutmte— very careful because there are a growing number of— very careful because there are a growing number of tory mps, even tethe— growing number of tory mps, even tethe atmhtete— growing number of tory mps, even boris admirers ,_ growing number of tory mps, even boris admirers , who— growing number of tory mps, even boris admirers , who are now boris admirers, who are now ththmg— boris admirers, who are now ththmg et— boris admirers, who are now ththmg et the— boris admirers, who are now tiring of the damage he is doing to tiring of the damage he is doing te the— tiring of the damage he is doing te the hay— tiring of the damage he is doing te the hety patty— tiring of the damage he is doing to the tory party and even there was a recent in— to the tory party and even there was a recent in the— to the tory party and even there was a recent in the last few taye— was a recent in the last few taye a— was a recent in the last few taye a etety— was a recent in the last few days a study done which eeggeetet— days a study done which suggested that about 40 or 50% of suggested that about 40 or 50% et hey— suggested that about 40 or 50% et hety patty— suggested that about 40 or 50% of tory party members now feel he he— of tory party members now feel he he gehmg— of tory party members now feel he he gehmg tee— of tory party members now feel he is going too far— of tory party members now feel he is going too far with his attache— he is going too far with his attaetet h— he is going too far with his attacks. i mean— he is going too far with his attacks. i mean , funnily enough, attacks. i mean, funnily enough, i'm attacks. i mean, funnily enough, h-m the— attacks. i mean, funnily enough, i'm the co—author_ attacks. i mean, funnily enough, i'm the co—author of a book that eut— i'm the co—author of a book that eet tate— i'm the co—author of a book that came out late last— i'm the co—author of a book that came out late last year on boris cathet— came out late last year on boris eattet tethe— came out late last year on boris called boris johnson media cheathem— called boris johnson media creation media— called boris johnson media creation media clown and media caeuatty— creation media clown and media caeuatty t— creation media clown and media casualty , which— creation media clown and media casualty , which i— creation media clown and media casualty , which i predicted it casualty, which i predicted it eme— casualty, which i predicted it eht up— casualty, which i predicted it eat up whthmg— casualty, which i predicted it end up writing a— casualty, which i predicted it end up writing a daily mail eemmt— end up writing a daily mail eemmt t— end up writing a daily mail column . but— end up writing a daily mail column. but of— end up writing a daily mail column . but of course, paul column. but of course, paul tatte— column. but of course, paul taete he— column. but of course, paul taete he very— column. but of course, paul dacre is very close to him . and dacre is very close to him. and tetay-e— dacre is very close to him. and tetay-e tahty— dacre is very close to him. and today's daily mail— dacre is very close to him. and today's daily mail, dacre is very close to him. and today's daily mail , for example, today's daily mail, for example, is today's daily mail, for example, he eage— today's daily mail, for example, he page atte— today's daily mail, for example, he page attet page— today's daily mail, for example, is page after page after page of a eeppett— is page after page after page of a eeppett wghmg— is page after page after page of a support urging boris us want to a support urging boris us want te tthmg— a support urging boris us want to bring benjamin . c
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to bring benjamin. it's absolutely— to bring benjamin. it's absolutely true- to bring benjamin. it's absolutely true that littlejohn did a column today saying it wasn't a kangaroo court, it was a lynch mob. you thought a lynch mob. and you thought that's fruity even for the that's a bit fruity even for the mail. and now, of course, they were for an were paving the way for an announcement they knew was coming. but this is classic boris, isn't it? he'll be able to be floral. he'll be able to be it will be be mischievous. and it will be whether you like him or not. it'll be an unmissable read. yeah, i think he's found his eatthhg— yeah, i think he's found his calling here.— yeah, i think he's found his calling here. you know, he's mmh— calling here. you know, he's much better— calling here. you know, he's much better as— calling here. you know, he's much better as a- calling here. you know, he's much better as a columnist than as much better as a columnist than ae-tthmhetet— much better as a columnist than as minister certainly. i as prime minister certainly. i that— as prime minister certainly. i think-definitely- think that's definitely true. far think that's definitely true. tat—thhe l think that's definitely true. i far—this. i've far better suited to this. i've atwaye— far better suited to this. i've atwaye-ateut— far better suited to this. i've always about boris, he's a always said about boris, he's a thagheetheham— always said about boris, he's a diagnostician genius, diagnostician of genius, but a temhtte— diagnostician of genius, but a terrible doctor.— diagnostician of genius, but a terrible doctor. can terrible doctor. he can say, what-e— terrible doctor. he can say,| what-e—pehmt terrible doctor. he can say,- what's_point out what's wrong, he can point out the-tut— what's wrong, he can point out the-tut he- what's wrong, he can point out the-but he doesn't. what's wrong, he can point out the the but he doesn't what's wrong, he can point out the the solutions. ie doesn't what's wrong, he can point out the the solutions. so ioesn't what's wrong, he can point out the the solutions. so iesn't what's wrong, he can point out the the solutions. so i think have the solutions. so i think he—et- have the solutions. so i think he—et ptaee- have the solutions. so i think he—et ptaee hh| he was a bit out of place in wemte— he was a bit out of place in wemtet tem— he was a bit out of place in number ten because he there number ten because he got there and number ten because he got there amt-theat— number ten because he got there and-didn't know- number ten because he got there and didn't know what to and then he didn't know what to do and then he didn't know what to te-ht-e— and then he didn't know what to te-ht-e-he- and then he didn't know what to do-it's-he wanted. do with it. it's what he wanted the-thme— do with it. it's what he wanted the-thme te— do with it. it's what he wanted the-time to be- do with it. it's what he wanted the time to be prime the whole time to be prime whmhetet— the whole time to be prime minister and— the whole time to be prime minister and once he got it, he etteethwet— minister and once he got it, he etteethwet he— minister and once he got it, he effective. he did— minister and once he got it, he effective. he did nothing of any wate— effective. he did nothing of any watuet—mueh- value. so i think he's much tettet— value. so i think he's much better-mail- value. so i think he's much better-mail thani value. so i think he's much. better-mail than in better off in the mail than in wemte— better off in the mail than in wemtet hot — better off in the mail than in number 10. think do you number 10. do you think do you that— number 10. do you think do you thhmt-tatthmg— number 10. do you think do you think talking about this think i'm talking about this the— think i'm talking about this kind-lazarus— think i'm talking about this kind lazarus style comeback , kind of lazarus style comeback, you— kind of lazarus style comeback, yep thew— kind of lazarus style comeback, yep knew a— kind of lazarus style comeback, you know, a churchillian return to you know, a churchillian return te the— you know, a churchillian return to the battlefield _ you know, a churchillian return to the battlefield is a mewepapet— to the battlefield is a newspaper column, a an effective
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and newspaper column, a an effective amt tetuet— newspaper column, a an effective amt tetuet amt— newspaper column, a an effective and robust and clever way of teephhg— and robust and clever way of teephmg teephhg— and robust and clever way of keeping keeping himself relevant , or keeping keeping himself relevant t et he— keeping keeping himself relevant t et he ht— keeping keeping himself relevant tet he ht teet— keeping keeping himself relevant , or is it just simply over for tethe— , or is it just simply over for boris politically? ctit t tt:i”ti; boris politically? can there te— boris politically? can there te a— boris politically? can there ever be a comeback? it boris politically? can there- ever be a comeback? it certainly hetpet— ever be a comeback? it certainly hetpet hhm — ever be a comeback? it certainly helped him secure,— ever be a comeback? it certainly helped him secure, first- ii7 it certainly helped him secure, first of all, the wayett— helped him secure, first of all, the thayett the— helped him secure, first of all, the mayor, the london mayor hete— the mayor, the london mayor he the— the mayor, the london mayor tetet amt et— the mayor, the london mayor role. and of course, it played a part— role. and of course, it played a pat hm— role. and of course, it played a part he hhm — role. and of course, it played a part in him becoming prime whmhetett— part in him becoming prime minister. let's— part in him becoming prime minister. let's not forget that, that— minister. let's not forget that, that tethe— minister. let's not forget that, that boris, although he won the zet— that boris, although he won the 2019 election,— that boris, although he won the 2019 election, he— that boris, although he won the 2019 election, he he was ahehmtet— 2019 election, he he was anointed prime minister by the hey— anointed prime minister by the hety patty— anointed prime minister by the tory party membership and mps. but tory party membership and mps. tut tethe— tory party membership and mps. tut tethe he— tory party membership and mps. but boris is dangerous and he teeewee— but boris is dangerous and he teeewee he— but boris is dangerous and he deserves he deserves to depart the peththeat— deserves he deserves to depart the political stage for good. tut— the political stage for good. tut ht— the political stage for good. but it somewhat has known boris for but it somewhat has known boris tea ever— but it somewhat has known boris tea ze— but it somewhat has known boris for over 25 years— but it somewhat has known boris for over 25 years and a few encounters with— for over 25 years and a few encounters with him. i think he ethtt— encounters with him. i think he still harbours— encounters with him. i think he still harbours those those churchillian— still harbours those those churchillian come back ambitions and churchillian come back ambitions amt h— churchillian come back ambitions amt h weuttm-t— churchillian come back ambitions and i wouldn't totally rule it eut— and i wouldn't totally rule it eutt h— and i wouldn't totally rule it eutt t that— and i wouldn't totally rule it out. i think it's— and i wouldn't totally rule it out. i think it's becoming hmeteaehmgty— out. i think it's becoming increasingly unlikely. but it tut— increasingly unlikely. but it tut ht— increasingly unlikely. but it but it could— increasingly unlikely. but it but it could happen . but the way but it could happen. but the way the math— but it could happen. but the way the math have— but it could happen. but the way the mail have handled it has
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teem— the mail have handled it has teem very— the mail have handled it has been very clever.— the mail have handled it has been very clever. yeah, because gehtthmg— been very clever. yeah, because gehtthmg at— been very clever. yeah, because quitting at half— been very clever. yeah, because quitting at half an— been very clever. yeah, because quitting at half an hour's methee— quitting at half an hour's methee et— quitting at half an hour's notice or notifying the advisory t wett— notice or notifying the advisory t wett ht— notice or notifying the advisory t wett ht ht— notice or notifying the advisory , well it it creates— notice or notifying the advisory , well it it creates a huge pr memett— , well it it creates a huge pr moment, isn't— , well it it creates a huge pr moment, isn't it?— , well it it creates a huge pr moment, isn't it? >t
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break welcome back . break welcome back. i'm martin daubney, in for the legendary laurence fox. well, figures for last year show british police forces spent a whopping 66 grand on rainbow themed merchandise, including flags, selfie frames , including flags, selfie frames, whistles, key rings , shoelaces, whistles, key rings, shoelaces, pens and lip balm. the list goes on for pride, of course , lest we on for pride, of course, lest we forget the pride macarena too. as you can see here, absolute disgrace. well, this week, essex police even threw a pride in our kids event at their hq again on your tuppence resplendent with a drag queen, of course, which isn't at all creepy, is it ? all isn't at all creepy, is it? all the while only 6% of burglaries get solved in blighty. 30,000
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muggings went unsolved last year alone. meanwhile, cops have recorded over 120,000 non crime hate incidents such as people getting offended over being misgendered or using the wrong pronouns. well that's good to see. they've got their priorities in order, isn't it? so tonight we wanted to ask, is it time we kick this pc pride nonsense out of the force? well if let's go to the panel. so what do you reckon? let's start with you, benjamin . i just get with you, benjamin. i just get sick of it every year. it almost feels like pride is compulsory . feels like pride is compulsory. now, if you're against it, you're you're an immediate homophobe. but isn't the issue is that at its heart, pride is a political movement. it is a political movement. it is a political movement- c {5 it is a political movement and a peththeat— political movement and a political movement and a political movement has any place whthhm— political movement has any place whthhh the— political movement has any place within the police,— political movement has any place within the police, the police eheutt— within the police, the police should impartial. should should be impartial. they should be should be impartial. they should te eee— should be impartial. they should be seen as being— should be impartial. they should be seen as being a— should be impartial. they should be seen as being a force which is be seen as being a force which he-gewem— be seen as being a force which he-gewem amt- be seen as being a force which is-govern and to- is there to govern and to pteteett — is there to govern and to pteteett wet— is there to govern and to protect. not going out and whethe— protect. not going out and virtue signalling about social ht-e— virtue signalling about social issues. it's not— virtue signalling about social issues. it's not their place. hheee— issues. it's not their place. those police _ issues. it's not their place. those police officers can do it in those police officers can do it he theta— those police officers can do it in their private— those police officers can do it in their private time if they want— in their private time if they want tet — in their private time if they want tet tut— in their private time if they want to, but not- in their private time if they want to, but not in uniform .
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want to, but not in uniform. tamhty— want to, but not in uniform. ttamttyt h— want to, but not in uniform. frankly, i think— want to, but not in uniform. frankly, i think it's a disgrace amt— frankly, i think it's a disgrace and-massive- frankly, i think it's a disgrace and massive waste of and also a massive waste of taxpayer— and also a massive waste of taxpayer-hawt- and also a massive waste of. taxpayer- paul, surely taxpayer money. paul, surely this good inclusion and this is good for inclusion and diversity. i got a great diversity. i haven't got a great paettem — diversity. i haven't got a great ptettem-htt— diversity. i haven't got a great ptettem-htt h— diversity. i haven't got a great problem-it. i think- diversity. i haven't got a great problem-it. i think i- t: 3 i haven't got a great problem it. i think i think problem with it. i think i think it's problem with it. i think i think he tehmg— problem with it. i think i think it's being overdone. and that's them—whee- it's being overdone. and that's from -who's.thel from somebody who's on the theta— from somebody who's on the liberal—think- liberal left. but i think i that— liberal left. but i think i think sometimes it actually teete— think sometimes it actually looks looks— think sometimes it actually looks looks a— think sometimes it actually looks looks a little ridiculous. tut— looks looks a little ridiculous. tut the— looks looks a little ridiculous. but the principle— looks looks a little ridiculous. but the principle is fine. but if but the principle is fine. but ht yep— but the principle is fine. but ht yep ewtete— but the principle is fine. but if you overdo it,— but the principle is fine. but if you overdo it, it actually athematee— if you overdo it, it actually alienates people. i think you've got alienates people. i think you've get te— alienates people. i think you've get te emhe— alienates people. i think you've got to strike the _ alienates people. i think you've got to strike the right balance. seme— got to strike the right balance. seme tee— got to strike the right balance. some forces do— got to strike the right balance. some forces do ,_ got to strike the right balance. some forces do , some forces some forces do, some forces eem-t— some forces do, some forces tem-tt tut— some forces do, some forces don't. but it's— some forces do, some forces don't. but it's not- some forces do, some forces don't. but it's not a one size the— don't. but it's not a one size thte att— don't. but it's not a one size fits all scenario— don't. but it's not a one size fits all scenario . - don't. but it's not a one size fits all scenario . ”ti; fits all scenario. but we we're talking earlier, benjamin, about the kind of cancer of identity politics. and it basically makes you take sides . it's like we you take sides. it's like we don't like pride. then you're an outright transphobe, outright you're a transphobe, you're i just don't you're no. one. no, ijust don't want in wigs dancing want blokes in in wigs dancing the ymca. i'd rather you just crank skills and make people were rubbing my . yeah, were rubbing my. yeah, absolutely. they've - tg yeah, absolutely. they've got a job were rubbing my. yeah,- absolutely. they've got a job to do. absolutely. they've got a job to at they— absolutely. they've got a job to do. they should— absolutely. they've got a job to do. they should be doing their pet— do. they should be doing their tett—ht— do. they should be doing their tett—ht atee- job. but i think it also undermines- job. but i think it also undermines when undermines their authority when you undermines their authority when yep—emee- undermines their authority when yep—ettheet hh- undermines their authority when you—officer in full. you see a police officer in full mhtetm— you see a police officer in full emmem-amt- you see a police officer in full uniform and blowing uniform twerking and blowing whhettee— uniform twerking and blowing whistles-parade,- uniform twerking and blowing whistles parade, it doesn't whistles at a parade, it doesn't exaetty— whistles at a parade, it doesn't exaetty peep-eet— whistles at a parade, it doesn't exactly project image exactly project an image of ettemgth— exactly project an image of strength maturity. it looks strength and maturity. it looks a i strength and maturity. it looks a-h teet— strength and maturity. it looks
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a-h pet that- strength and maturity. it looks a-h pet that t- a bit silly. i just think, tamhty— a bit silly. i just think, frankly, the- a bit silly. i just think, frankly, the police should focus on frankly, the police should focus em—at- frankly, the police should focus em—at thel on their jobs because at the memet— on their jobs because at the moment—doing. on their jobs because at the. moment—doing their moment they're not doing their actuat— moment they're not doing their aetuat tett — moment they're not doing their actual job. they're just epehthmg— actual job. they're just spending on all spending too much time on all theee— spending too much time on all these sideshows_ spending too much time on all these sideshows . _ spending too much time on all these sideshows . tg these sideshows. but one thing you have to in mind is to a you have to bear in mind is to a degree, it's countering the damage done by the sort of scandals that louise casey report reveal . and also , you report reveal. and also, you know, someone was arguing the case earlier on for arming more policemen. well, let's not forget that both wayne cousins and david carrick were members , and david carrick were members, you know, of the armed police acas brigade , you know, so to acas brigade, you know, so to that extent , to that extent, that extent, to that extent, you've got to be very careful . you've got to be very careful. so i think trying to find that balance between, if you like, being a tolerant part of society and also being a efficient and competent police force is quite a tricky tightrope at the moment to walk. that's all public confidence isn't. but at an operation level though, yeah, i mean , if a if a police officer mean, if a if a police officer is favouring, say, i don't know
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, someone with xem pronouns or favouring, i mean, are they going to not taser a trans person if they're on a rampage ? person if they're on a rampage? i just think it kind of it gets it i just think it kind of it gets ht geee— i just think it kind of it gets it goes against— i just think it kind of it gets it goes against the notion of pethehmg— it goes against the notion of policing without— it goes against the notion of policing without fear or favour, whheh— policing without fear or favour, whheh heet— policing without fear or favour, which used-be— policing without fear or favour, which used-be at- policing without fear or favour, which used be at the very which used to be at the very heat— which used to be at the very heart et— which used to be at the very heart et the— which used to be at the very heart of the constabulary. and mew-takea— heart of the constabulary. and now-taken sides- heart of the constabulary. and now taken sides mahyar now they've taken sides mahyar heueht— now they've taken sides mahyar heueht-thete-e— now they've taken sides mahyar tousi,-there's now- now they've taken sides mahyar tousi, there's now the tousi, but also there's now the tea— tousi, but also there's now the htea that— tousi, but also there's now the htea that ht— tousi, but also there's now the idea that if-don't- tousi, but also there's now the idea that if don't go along idea that if you don't go along whth— idea that if you don't go along whth htt— idea that if you don't go along whth htt yep— idea that if you don't go along with it, you don't— idea that if you don't go along with it, you don't join in, yep-th— with it, you don't join in, yep-ht te— with it, you don't join in, you'll be sidelined within the tet — you'll be sidelined within the force. _coercion. force. so it's the coercion within, you know, you have force. so it's the coercion withinpolitical)w, you have force. so it's the coercion withinpolitical movements,i have force. so it's the coercion withinpolitical movements, it'sve these political movements, it's if part, you're if you don't take part, you're not club. okay, not part of the club. okay, we've got i think that's. martin where do you get the idea that, you if a trans if a you know, that if a trans if a trans person behaving in trans person were behaving in a publicly threatening way, that they tasered ? i they wouldn't be tasered? i don't see i don't see that would be don't see i don't see that would he the— don't see i don't see that would he the — don't see i don't see that would be the case. well,— don't see i don't see that would be the case. �*titttigc g: be the case. well, that's good for you. let's move on to the next that was feisty. if next debate. that was feisty. if like been enjoying like me, you've been enjoying the fans sort the hot weather, but fans sort of cool down with a mr. whippy. well, find well, you better not find yourself greenwich yourself anywhere near greenwich in south—east london the in south—east london because the local its mighty local council and its mighty wisdom has wisdom and killjoy spirit has proposed banning ice cream vans on king william walk by greenwich park and the royal
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observer tree. you know, the exact sort of place that you'd like to have an ice cream. the reasons being apparently the reasons are being apparently the ice cream vans cause unacceptable levels of nuisance. they clutter views of the local attractions and have a negative impact on air quality because they leave the motor running to power. the generator . well, i power. the generator. well, i know where i won't be going this summer. benjamin they're banning everything. yeah now they're banning ice cream vans during a heatwave. it's ridiculous. it's like cromwellian levels- like cromwellian levels of teetteyhmg— like cromwellian levels of destroying people's fun . you're destroying people's fun. you're not destroying people's fun. you're met attewet— destroying people's fun. you're not allowed to— destroying people's fun. you're not allowed to do— destroying people's fun. you're not allowed to do anything. you mhght— not allowed to do anything. you mhght emtey. — not allowed to do anything. you mhght emtey. wee— not allowed to do anything. you might enjoy. you have to sit at heme— might enjoy. you have to sit at hemet teet— might enjoy. you have to sit at home, lock yourself in a dark amt— home, lock yourself in a dark amt tay— home, lock yourself in a dark room and try not— home, lock yourself in a dark room and try not to breathe too much— room and try not to breathe too meet hm— room and try not to breathe too meet hm aee— room and try not to breathe too much in case you— room and try not to breathe too much in case you emit too much eatet— much in case you emit too much eaten-teet— much in case you emit too much carbon. just absolutely carbon. they just are absolutely temtete— carbon. they just are absolutely bonkers, these— carbon. they just are absolutely bonkers, these-is- carbon. they just are absolutely bonkers, these people. is that the-hawth— bonkers, these people. is that the paul? breathing the answer? paul? stop breathing and ice cream. and don't have an ice cream. frankly greenwich council are proving the a not very cool and b that they're a bunch of flakes . i like that. i like a nice ice cream pun, too. and classic mega michael is the next one. so now sweet viewers, some really
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troubling news broke earlier today from the pond. in fact, palace . can we join hands and palace. can we join hands and pray right . palace. can we join hands and pray right. come by our my lord come by your. i can sense your pain is real so much because guess what? so much meghan markle's podcast archetypes has been axed afterjust one season owing to the fact that the duchess's production companies low output of content, which is probably down to systemic racism of something like that anyhow, the x series was claimed to explore labels that try to hold women back , an issue that women back, an issue that clearly never happened to the multi—millionaire princess. so panel , are multi—millionaire princess. so panel, are you a surprised and saddened as me that meghan's had the royal heave let's start with you, benjamin. let's be completely honest. i didn't even know completely honest. i didn't even knew ehe— completely honest. i didn't even knew ehe hat— completely honest. i didn't even know she had a— completely honest. i didn't even know she had a podcast.- i i didn't even know she had a podcast. but aetuatty— know she had a podcast. but aeteatty ehe— know she had a podcast. but actually she didn't. she didn't eeate— actually she didn't. she didn't eeate amy— actually she didn't. she didn't create any podcasts. that was the— create any podcasts. that was the-they— create any podcasts. that was the-they signed- create any podcasts. that was the they signed her create any podcasts. that was. the-they signed her up. the problem. they signed her up. they— the problem. they signed her up. they patt— the problem. they signed her up. they pate-heate— the problem. they signed her up. they paid-loads of- the problem. they signed her up. they paid loads of money. the problem. they signed her up. theylpaid loads of money. the problem. they signed her up. theyl think loads of money. the problem. they signed her up. theyl think she)ads of money. the problem. they signed her up. theyl think she did; of money. the problem. they signed her up. theyl think she did about,ney. the problem. they signed her up. theyl think she did about, what, and i think she did about, what, two and i think she did about, what, twe epheetee— and i think she did about, what, two episodes-did. - and i think she did about, what, two episodes did. two episodes she did. i think ehe— two episodes she did. i think the the— two episodes she did. i think she did series, which she did one series, which i think 3 or 4, 3 or
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think was about 3 or 4, 3 or 4 episodes. i mean, what was she patt— episodes. i mean, what was she pate—te— episodes. i mean, what was she paht—te thhee- episodes. i mean, what was she paid—do this? it- episodes. i mean, what was she paid—do this? it wasi paid millions to do this? it was it paid millions to do this? it was ht-a— paid millions to do this? it was ht-a empha— paid millions to do this? it was ht-a etupht-te- it was a stupid idea to commission- it was a stupid idea to commission this in first commission this in the first ptaeet— commission this in the first ptaeet tut— commission this in the first place. but when _ commission this in the first place. but when she actually got the commission,— place. but when she actually got the commission, she should have place. but when she actually got the cttheiission, she should have place. but when she actually got the ctthe work. i, she should have place. but when she actually got the ctthe work. i she should have place. but when she actually got the ctthe work. i mean,ould have place. but when she actually got the ctthe work. i mean, itld have place. but when she actually got the ctthe work. i mean, it justave place. but when she actually got the ctoe work. i mean, it justave place. but when she actually got the ctoe wothownean, it just ave place. but when she actually got the ctoe wothownean, it jshe ve place. but when she actually got the t jt:3t e wothownean, it jshe ve place. but when she actually got the t jtit ithownean, it jshe ve place. but when she actually got the t jtit nean, it jshe ve place. but when she actually got the t jt:3t t
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twe— they're about to lay off about twe zoo— they're about to lay off about two 200 employees and some repeate— two 200 employees and some tepette ae— two 200 employees and some reports are suggesting that ehe-e— reports are suggesting that she's already— reports are suggesting that she's already in negotiation whth— she's already in negotiation with another— she's already in negotiation with another outlet . so yeah, so with another outlet. so yeah, so attheugh— with another outlet. so yeah, so attheugh hte— with another outlet. so yeah, so although it's quite— with another outlet. so yeah, so although it's quite the statement— although it's quite the statement says it was a joint teehehemt— statement says it was a joint decision, who _ statement says it was a joint decision, who knows ? but but i decision, who knows? but but i euepeet— decision, who knows? but but i eeepeet that— decision, who knows? but but i suspect that she— decision, who knows? but but i suspect that she has other plans whether— suspect that she has other plans now, whether whether she teeewee— now, whether whether she deserves the _ now, whether whether she deserves the accolades she's teem— deserves the accolades she's teem ghwem— deserves the accolades she's been given recently, which i that— been given recently, which i that he— been given recently, which i think is all— been given recently, which i think is all about pr spin for various sponsors— think is all about pr spin for various sponsors . so i'm not i'm various sponsors. so i'm not i'm met— various sponsors. so i'm not i'm met the— various sponsors. so i'm not i'm met the thggeet— various sponsors. so i'm not i'm not the biggest critic of meghan hatte— not the biggest critic of meghan watttet tut— not the biggest critic of meghan markle, but i'm— not the biggest critic of meghan markle, but i'm also not a cheerleader— markle, but i'm also not a cheerleader either because there-e— cheerleader either because thete-e a— cheerleader either because there's a lot— cheerleader either because there's a lot of— cheerleader either because there's a lot of hypocrisy hhwetwett — there's a lot of hypocrisy involved. t there's a lot of hypocrisy- involved. benjamin let's move on to you. so, i mean, is this just inevitable? is this actually faith in humanity restored ? and faith in humanity restored? and is has meghan's presence been toxic to the whole platform? spotify is his is she the embodiment of go woke go broke? i think one of the biggest enemies of— i think one of the biggest enemies of the- i think one of the biggest enemies of the woke movement is the market — enemies of the woke movement is the market. that's— enemies of the woke movement is the market. that's why they're all the market. that's why they're att—teeauee- the market. that's why they're all—because as. the market. that's why they're . all—because as soon the market. that's why they're allthey because as soon the market. that's why they're allthey have because as soon the market. that's why they're allthey have theirzcause as soon the market. that's why they're
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allthey have their organisationsi as they have their organisations amt— as they have their organisations amt theta— as they have their organisations and their plans— as they have their organisations and their plans and the things that— and their plans and the things that they— and their plans and the things that they te— and their plans and the things that they do and— and their plans and the things that they do and no one buys it the— that they do and no one buys it the tat— that they do and no one buys it the tat thght— that they do and no one buys it like bad light-saw- that they do and no one buys it like bad light saw got like bad light we saw got ateetutety— like bad light we saw got| absolutely—by like bad light we saw got- absolutely_by the absolutely demolished by the teyeett— absolutely demolished by the teyeett whem— absolutely demolished by the boycott when they attempted a ehmhtat— boycott when they attempted a ehmhtat thhmgt— boycott when they attempted a similar thing. know, the similar thing. you know, the ptettem — similar thing. you know, the ptettem he— similar thing. you know, the problem is when people can vote whth— problem is when people can vote whth theta— problem is when people can vote with their wallets— problem is when people can vote with their wallets ,_ problem is when people can vote with their wallets , they don't with their wallets, they don't wete — with their wallets, they don't wete lthe — with their wallets, they don't vote .the woke _ with their wallets, they don't vote the woke stuff. you vote for the woke stuff. you every—they- vote for the woke stuff. you every—they get| vote for the woke stuff. you - every _tbey got they every single time they go, they go every single time they go, they 90-i— every single time they go, they ge-h thttt— every single time they go, they ge-h thmt hte- every single time they go, they go-i think it's superb.l every single time they go, theyi go-i think it's superb. do go bust. i think it's superb. do you think then we're seeing a great do think great realignment? do you think this meghan's this do you think meghan's departure signifies departure actually signifies a great of hope rather than great moment of hope rather than a moment salvation? well, a moment of salvation? well, i think about to a moment of salvation? well, i think-about to revive- a moment of salvation? well, i think-about to revive her.. think it's about to revive her. tetuattyt— think it's about to revive her. actually. successful before she met— actually. successful before she even met prince— actually. successful before she even met prince website in even met prince harry website in a the— even met prince harry website in a the te— even met prince harry website in a bid to challenge— even met prince harry website in a bid to challenge gwyneth tatttew— a bid to challenge gwyneth hatttew t— a bid to challenge gwyneth paltrow . we'll— a bid to challenge gwyneth paltrow . we'll see how that paltrow. we'll see how that geee— paltrow. we'll see how that geee. otay— paltrow. we'll see how that goes. okay superb. t5t
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watt— johnson is going to have a daily that eemmt— johnson is going to have a daily that eemmt t— johnson is going to have a daily mail column . will— johnson is going to have a daily mail column . will he use it to mail column. will he use it to hetp— mail column. will he use it to hetp et— mail column. will he use it to help or hinder— mail column. will he use it to help or hinder rishi sunak plus , in help or hinder rishi sunak plus t he my— help or hinder rishi sunak plus t he my tate— help or hinder rishi sunak plus t hm my take at— help or hinder rishi sunak plus , in my take at ten, my thoughts atem— , in my take at ten, my thoughts atept ree— , in my take at ten, my thoughts about joe biden.— , in my take at ten, my thoughts about joe biden. it's a painful tmth— about joe biden. it's a painful tmth that— about joe biden. it's a painful truth that this— about joe biden. it's a painful truth that this man needs to be put eut— truth that this man needs to be put eet te— truth that this man needs to be put out to pasture.— truth that this man needs to be put out to pasture. america teeewee— put out to pasture. america deserves better. _ put out to pasture. america deserves better. the world teeewe— deserves better. the world deserve better.— deserves better. the world deserve better. a really busy ehew— deserve better. a really busy ehew t— deserve better. a really busy ehew t tete— deserve better. a really busy show . lots to— deserve better. a really busy show . lots to get through. but show. lots to get through. but thtett— show. lots to get through. but met the— show. lots to get through. but first, the weather— show. lots to get through. but first, the weather on gb news. hatte— first, the weather on gb news. hette thetet — first, the weather on gb news. hello there. i'm— first, the weather on gb news. hello there. i'm jonathan- hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here of your evening weather forecast for gb news provided by the met office. whilst high pressure has been with us throughout the past few days, low pressure that is days, it's low pressure that is increasingly becoming in charge. as the weekend. as we head into the weekend. it's currently out the it's currently out in the atlantic. steadily atlantic. it's steadily progressing in from the and progressing in from the west and we'll staying with us we'll be staying with us throughout weekend into throughout the weekend and into next well. it's already next week as well. it's already fringing into parts of the west and bringing these showers and bringing in these showers that to their that will start to feed their way throughout of way in throughout the rest of this and overnight could this evening and overnight could see there, see some heavy rain in there, particularly see some heavy rain in there, particulthrough the early hours ireland through the early hours of saturday morning . quite of saturday morning. quite persistent generally persistent rain generally further east, though, it will stay and clearer . and stay drier and clearer. and underneath clearer skies, underneath those clearer skies, temperatures dropping into
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temperatures dropping down into ten, 11 c. so a bit more comfortable for sleeping here. but further towards the west, around 15, 16 c. so still quite muqqy around 15, 16 c. so still quite muggy out there. first thing on saturday, those showers then continuing to push their way north and westwards. so a sprinkling perhaps for parts of northwest western northwest england, western scotland. and see the scotland. and we might see the odd across southern odd one push across southern areas england as well. areas of england as well. generally tending generally eastern areas tending to stay drier. and again , we'll to stay drier. and again, we'll see a bit of wispy cloud push its way and that its way through. and with that cloud temperatures perhaps a little compared recent little lower compared to recent days, but still feeling very warm. of 24, 25 c into warm. highs of 24, 25 c into saturday night. again, continuing to see those showers t continuing to see those showers , particularly across western areas. so western scotland, northwest england, parts of northern ireland still seeing a few through as we few flittering through as we head the daytime, though, head into the daytime, though, those showers will be turning more widespread and there is a thunderstorm warning in force for of england and wales for parts of england and wales throughout the these throughout the day. these thunderstorms are going to be hit miss, though not hit and miss, though not everywhere to one, everywhere is going to see one, but where you do see them, they
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are going to be potential really bringing heavy downpours of rain, even some rain, hail and even some lightning well. this area of lightning as well. this area of low pressure is staying with us. then head into monday and then as we head into monday and tuesday thunderstorms tuesday, further thunderstorms and are likely and heavy showers are likely throughout days as well. throughout those days as well. so keep up to date with the so do keep up to date with the forecast because is quite forecast because it is quite a showery picture cards. showery picture on the cards. enjoy your evening . enjoy the rest of your evening. bye bye .
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