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good evening. it's 7:00. and i'm martin daubney, for in laurence fox, who is convalescing . get well soon. convalescing. get well soon. well the government has lost the plot on illegal immigration. the prime minister takes all the credit from the weather , but now credit from the weather, but now it's getting warmer. the numbers are up. so i'll be asking whether it's time to follow italy's example and declare a state of emergency. we'll also be posing the broader but crucial questions about social cohesion and multi culturalism. dr. raqib ahsan joins us to discuss his new book, beyond grievance what the left gets wrong about minority parties. and it's been a tumultuous week in westminster as the house of
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commons braces itself to vote on bofis commons braces itself to vote on boris johnson's fate on monday. and i'll be asking, boris johnson's fate on monday. and i'll be asking , is this the and i'll be asking, is this the end for bowser .7 and a quick fire end for bowser.7 and a quick fire for the panel just to wrap things up . everything from ice things up. everything from ice cream van bans to pride in the firearms unit. you will not want to miss it. well, that's all coming up after the news with rory smith . thank you very much, rory smith. thank you very much, martin.— rory smith. thank you very much, martin. a— rory smith. thank you very much, martin. a mn— rory smith. thank you very much, martin. a man has— rory smith. thank you very much, martin. a man has been- 1:33 thank you very much, martin. a man has been charged wm.— martin. a man has been charged with the— martin. a man has been charged with the murders— martin. a man has been charged with the murders of three people in nottingham's_ with the murders of three people in nottingham's knife attacks. 31 year— in nottingham's knife attacks. 31 year om— in nottingham's knife attacks. 31 year old osvaldo khalil khan , a former student— 31 year old osvaldo khalil khan , a former student of nottingham university, — , a former student of nottingham university, motty,_ , a former student of nottingham university, motty, is accused of mung— university, motty, is accused of killing barnaby— university, motty, is accused of killing barnaby webber. grace o-mauey— killing barnaby webber. grace o'malley kumar_ killing barnaby webber. grace o'malley kumar and ian coates on tuesday— o'malley kumar and ian coates on tuesday .— o'malley kumar and ian coates on tuesday . hee— o'malley kumar and ian coates on tuesday . he's also— o'malley kumar and ian coates on tuesday . he's also accused of tuesday. he's also accused of three— tuesday. he's also accused of the wane— tuesday. he's also accused of three counts of— tuesday. he's also accused of three counts of attempt murder after— three counts of attempt murder after three— three counts of attempt murder after three other— three counts of attempt murder after three other people were injured — after three other people were injured when— after three other people were injured when they were hit by a van injured when they were hit by a mae— injured when they were hit by a van that morning— injured when they were hit by a van that morning ._ injured when they were hit by a van that morning . he's due to van that morning. he's due to appear— van that morning. he's due to appear at— van that morning. he's due to appear at nottingham, manchester rates— appear at nottingham, manchester raaee coura— appear at nottingham, manchester rates court tomorrow . boris
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rates court tomorrow. boris johnson— rates court tomorrow. boris johnson ae— rates court tomorrow. boris johnson is accused of breaching ministeria— johnson is accused of breaching ministerial rules— johnson is accused of breaching ministerial rules by taking up a rete— ministerial rules by taking up a new role as a daily mail columnist— new role as a daily mail columnist at— new role as a daily mail columnist at the advisory committee — columnist at the advisory committee on— columnist at the advisory committee on business appointments claims mr johnson eave— appointments claims mr johnson gave them— appointments claims mr johnson gave aaem ease— appointments claims mr johnson gave them just half an hour's notice.— gave them just half an hour's notice. that's— gave them just half an hour's notice. that's despite the ministerial— notice. that's despite the ministerial code requiring those whe— ministerial code requiring those who have— ministerial code requiring those who have left— ministerial code requiring those who have left the— ministerial code requiring those who have left the government in the tast— who have left the government in the taet twe— who have left the government in the last two years— who have left the government in the last two years to apply for atvtee— the last two years to apply for atvtee ea— the last two years to apply for advice on taking— the last two years to apply for advice on taking up new appointments- advice on taking up new appointments . advice on taking up new appointments. mrjohnson's advice on taking up new appointments. mr johnson's first atttete— appointments. mr johnson's first atttete te— appointments. mr johnson's first atttete te ea— appointments. mr johnson's first article is on how— appointments. mr johnson's first article is on how a— appointments. mr johnson's first article is on how a weight loss trag— article is on how a weight loss true tttu-t— article is on how a weight loss drug didn't work— article is on how a weight loss drug didn't work well for him, eaytug— drug didn't work well for him, eaytag te— drug didn't work well for him, eaytag rte utt— drug didn't work well for him, saying he will only cover pettttee— saying he will only cover politics when _ saying he will only cover politics when he absolutely has to. politics when he absolutely has ta. rte— politics when he absolutely has to. the former— politics when he absolutely has to. the former director general of to. the former director general at tre— to. the former director general at the patte— to. the former director general of the police watchdog has been etareet— of the police watchdog has been etaraet tutt— of the police watchdog has been charged with raping a girl under the age— charged with raping a girl under the age at— charged with raping a girl under the age at re.— charged with raping a girl under the age of 16. michael lockwood is the age of 16. michael lockwood te aeeueet— the age of 16. michael lockwood te aeeueet et— the age of 16. michael lockwood is accused of six— the age of 16. michael lockwood is accused of six counts of tuteeerrt— is accused of six counts of indecent assault- is accused of six counts of indecent assault and three taunte— indecent assault and three eeuute et— indecent assault and three counts of rape— indecent assault and three counts of rape against the teenager.— counts of rape against the teenager. the— counts of rape against the teenager. the crown prosecution eervtee— teenager. the crown prosecution servtee eaye— teenager. the crown prosecution service says the— teenager. the crown prosecution service says the 64— teenager. the crown prosecution service says the 64 year old attegetty— service says the 64 year old allegedly committed the crimes turtug— allegedly committed the crimes turtug tre— allegedly committed the crimes during the 1980s.— allegedly committed the crimes during the 1980s. he left the rategeateut— during the 1980s. he left the independent office for police eeutuet— independent office for police eeutuet tu— independent office for police conduct in december after it
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energet— conduct in december after it emerget te— conduct in december after it emerged he was— conduct in december after it emerged he was being investigated- emerged he was being investigated over a historical attegatterr— investigated over a historical attegatteu .— investigated over a historical attegatteu . a— investigated over a historical allegation . a hosepipe ban will allegation. a hosepipe ban will be re— allegation. a hosepipe ban will be ta ptaee— allegation. a hosepipe ban will be ta gtaee tu— allegation. a hosepipe ban will be in place in kent and sussex trem— be in place in kent and sussex tram tree— be in place in kent and sussex from the 26th— be in place in kent and sussex from the 26th of— be in place in kent and sussex from the 26th of june as the teatuave— from the 26th of june as the heatwave across— from the 26th of june as the heatwave across the country entntuee — heatwave across the country continues. south _ heatwave across the country continues. south east water is tnpeetng— continues. south east water is tnpeetng tne— continues. south east water is imposing the ban— continues. south east water is imposing the ban as drinking water— imposing the ban as drinking water reaches— imposing the ban as drinking water reaches record demand. tnte— water reaches record demand. tnte nann— water reaches record demand. this month. some households in the this month. some households in tne true— this month. some households in the two counties— this month. some households in the two counties have been nttneut— the two counties have been without water— the two counties have been without water since monday due to euppty— without water since monday due to euggty teeuee— without water since monday due to supply issues. rule breakers eeutt— to supply issues. rule breakers eeutt ttnt— to supply issues. rule breakers could find themselves hit with a trooo — could find themselves hit with a trooo ttne — could find themselves hit with a £1,000 fine on. _ could find themselves hit with a £1,000 fine on. king charles has aggetntet— £1,000 fine on. king charles has appointed queen— £1,000 fine on. king charles has appointed queen camilla with the ntgneet— appointed queen camilla with the ntgneet neneur— appointed queen camilla with the highest honour in— appointed queen camilla with the highest honour in scotland . the highest honour in scotland. the gueen— highest honour in scotland. the gueen nae— highest honour in scotland. the queen has been— highest honour in scotland. the queen has been given the honour to tne— queen has been given the honour to tne meet— queen has been given the honour to the most ancient— queen has been given the honour to the most ancient and most nette— to the most ancient and most nette arter— to the most ancient and most noble order of— to the most ancient and most noble order of the thistle. tnat-e— noble order of the thistle. we a— noble order of the thistle. that's a personal gift from the rnenaren— that's a personal gift from the monarch that— that's a personal gift from the monarch that recognised his 16 tntgnte— monarch that recognised his 16 tntgnte, ateng— monarch that recognised his 16 knights, along with a number of people— knights, along with a number of geegte une— knights, along with a number of people who have— knights, along with a number of people who have held public atttee— people who have held public atttee er— people who have held public office or have— people who have held public office or have contributed to nattenat— office or have contributed to national life.— office or have contributed to national life. it— office or have contributed to national life. it comes ahead of the national life. it comes ahead of tne ttng-e— national life. it comes ahead of the king's first— national life. it comes ahead of the king's first trooping the cateur— the king's first trooping the colour ceremony tomorrow to mark his colour ceremony tomorrow to mark nte anteat— colour ceremony tomorrow to mark his official birthday— colour ceremony tomorrow to mark his official birthday ._ colour ceremony tomorrow to mark his official birthday . tv online
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his official birthday. tv online data — his official birthday. tv online data tatte— his official birthday. tv online dab+ radio and— his official birthday. tv online dab+ radio and on tune in. this is dab+ radio and on tune in. this te en— dab+ radio and on tune in. this te en tene— dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news nato— dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news nato ._ dab+ radio and on tune in. this is gb news nato. back to . is gb news nato. back to. martin nett— is gb news nato. back to. martin war, the— is gb news nato. back to. martin war, the nae— is gb news nato. back to. martin well, this was the— is gb news nato. back to. martin well, this was the week when the rety— well, this was the week when the toy government— well, this was the week when the tory government finally and tetatty— tory government finally and tetatty teet— tory government finally and totally lost control. \tt3r tory government finally and totally lost control. \trir " totally lost control. no, in tact.— totally lost control. no, in fact they— totally lost control. no, in fact, they lost the plot on illegal immigration. yesterday rishi sunak was acting all tough in an immigration control stab proof vest, bragging about a 50% increase of raids and doubled arrests. well, that followed his claim that his stop the boats plan had cut crossings crossings by 20. but anybody with half a brain and the ability to say , brain and the ability to say, alexa, what's the weather like in dover knew it was high winds , not high minded tory policies that was keeping the illegals away . bannau that was keeping the illegals away. bannau that didn't stop rishi part. king canute part comical. ali he reassured us it
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was he and only he who could stop the tide. yet it got worse. todayit stop the tide. yet it got worse. today it emerged the home office spent a whopping £3.6 billion on asylum support in 20 2223, nearly double the year before. astonished rishi has made things worse. his pledge to clear a backlog of nearly 100,000 old asylum claims has created a logjam of new claims. asylum claims has created a logjam of new claims . yes, the logjam of new claims. yes, the lunatics have finally taken over our asylum system. but before you say oh well, at least things can't get any worse , the answer can't get any worse, the answer is they can. a lot worse. if labour get into power because, like rishi keir starmer likes to talk tough on borders , but like talk tough on borders, but like rishi, he'll be another chocolate teapot. yvette cooper his shadow home secretary is basically gary lineker in a wig and most labour share . most and most labour share. most labour mps share her refugees welcome stance to in february
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20th, 2053 bleeding heart mps, including labour luminaires at the time, jeremy corbyn, diane abbott, david lammy and nadia whittome succeed aided in grounding a flight loaded with 43 foreign criminals about to be deported to jamaica . three of deported to jamaica. three of those criminals went on to reoffend , including one arnesto reoffend, including one arnesto elliot , who brutally stabbed elliot, who brutally stabbed a man to death. yet ms whittam called them vulnerable people, adding refugees need protection, not deport nation. whose side are these people on.7 some 9346 have crossed the channel illegally. this year, including at least 1500 this week and over 300 today. say we have absolutely no idea who any of these people are . we now no these people are. we now no longer know who walks among us. of course, they're not all bad apples. some made genuinely be fleeing war zones, but they could have claimed asylum in france. mind you, have you been
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to paris recently .7 but it's to paris recently? but it's delusional and danger worse for the lineker rights to claim that they're all saints to enable security sources leaked to the daily mail reveal that there are at least 19 terrorists living at full taxpayer's expense , full taxpayer's expense, including islamic state members who came here in dinghies. including islamic state members who came here in dinghies . but who came here in dinghies. but this is likely to be just the tip of the iceberg . surely it's tip of the iceberg. surely it's time to cry . enough tip of the iceberg. surely it's time to cry. enough is tip of the iceberg. surely it's time to cry . enough is enough tip of the iceberg. surely it's time to cry. enough is enough. so how can we make britain safe again? well, we could declare a national state of emergency to stem the tide of illegals arriving here by dinghy in april , italian premier giorgia meloni did just that. boats filled with illegals were forced to dock in france. we could enforce existing un convention laws on national security and tow boats back to france . we could hold a back to france. we could hold a referendum on the membership of the echr new to the human rights lawyers and deport all terrorists and foreign criminals. we could also even
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arm the police. but that , my arm the police. but that, my friends, that would take guts . friends, that would take guts. and we just don't have gutsy leaders like giorgia meloni in britain . we have spineless sunak britain. we have spineless sunak who shouts at the sea but cannot stop the tide, and a parliament, pubuc stop the tide, and a parliament, public service, judiciary and a mainstream media stuffed with refugees. welcome virtual signallers who are completely out of touch with the public mood . and today we say it's time mood. and today we say it's time to declare a state of emergency dodi. it's time to close our borders to illegals. it's time to make britain safe again . so to make britain safe again. so tonight i am asking how do we make britain safe again? should we close the borders? should we deport all foreign criminals? should we even arm the police? well, let me know what you think. email the usual way. gb views at gb news .com or tweet us, of course, at .
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us, of course, at. gb news. so keeping on that story, is it time to declare a state of emergency? well, i'm joined now by leader of the reform by the leader of the reform party, richard tice, an old sparring partner of mine over in brussels. well, we stuck it to them. we certainly did, martin, good good evening. is good evening. good evening. is it to go full maloney it time to go full maloney because i'm not seeing anything remotely changing despite billions of extra billions of pounds of extra money going into loads of money going into it. loads of hot air, loads of chest puffing , but no decisive action. of course, we should definitely teetare— course, we should definitely declare that _ course, we should definitely declare that there is a national eeuet— declare that there is a national eeuet natty— declare that there is a national secured motty threat, which we're entitled _ secured motty threat, which we're entitled to do under arttete— we're entitled to do under article nine— we're entitled to do under article nine of— we're entitled to do under article nine of the un 51 convention. _ article nine of the un 51 convention. ' article nine of the un 51 convention. rit�*t: 1 article nine of the un 51- convention. akua and reform uk. we've been calling this for well over a year now. it's the first part of our six point plan and this is the only plan and we are the only party. martin that will stop the boats. so that's the first thing you have to do. you then make it absolutely clear that zero are allowed to resettle here, that you will have offshore processing centres. but here's the rub . you
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centres. but here's the rub. you then got to say that you're going to have a completely new department of immigration staffed by people who believe in the cause of safe and secure borders. that's absolutely fundamental. and then then on you do what the australians did. you safely pick people up out of the boats and you take them back to france from where they came again, which you're allowed to do. martin under existing international law. so the big question is, richard, if we're allowed to do all of this, why don't we do it? because they are weak. they are feeble, they are gutless . they don't have the gutless. they don't have the courage and the decisive leadership to actually do this and to protect british citizens. you've mentioned some examples. there tragically, there are many , many more examples where asylum seekers who've either outstayed their right to stay or are foreign criminals who haven't been deported , and every haven't been deported, and every single foreign criminal should be deported the moment they leave prison, that they've then
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gone on to carry out hideous, violent and sometimes deadly crimes . and i think the british crimes. and i think the british people actually we have had enough. and they want some action. but it does require guts and there's no guts, frankly, within anywhere near the levers of power in the main, two parties in westminster. okay. let's let's just have a- parties in westminster. okay. let's let's just have a bit- " okay. let's let's just have a bit of tatanee— let's let's just have a bit of tatanee en— let's let's just have a bit of balance on that. - let's let's just have a bit of balance on that. so people would say,— balance on that. so people would eay, nett— balance on that. so people would eay, wag, tt-e— balance on that. so people would say, well, it's all— balance on that. so people would say, well, it's all fine to say gang— say, well, it's all fine to say getng te— say, well, it's all fine to say we're going to declare a state of we're going to declare a state at emergency,— we're going to declare a state of emergency, but the lawyers nan-t— of emergency, but the lawyers nan-t etant— of emergency, but the lawyers won't stand for— of emergency, but the lawyers won't stand for it.— of emergency, but the lawyers won't stand for it. france wen-t — won't stand for it. france won't. they've- won't stand for it. france won't. "c3 gti won't stand for it. france won't. grit won't stand for it. france- won't. they've got nowhere to go. it's in article nine of the un 51 convention. you're entitled to do it. australia did it in 2013 as part of their plan , which is the basis of our plan. and guess what? it worked. and that's because, just to clarify for viewers , is that so clarify for viewers, is that so you declare there's a threat to your national security, which clearly there is. if we know tnat— clearly there is. if we know tnat tnere— clearly there is. if we know that there are _ clearly there is. if we know that there are at— i c'11i111i1 if we know that there are at least 19 terrertete— that there are at least 19 terrorists within our country, we knew— terrorists within our country, we know that. _ terrorists within our country, we know that. �*ft�*ri; we know that. we know that dozens and dozens of others, for example , i'm the who exposed
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example, i'm the guy who exposed the albanian scandal of people coming from nato country coming from a safe nato country into there in their many, many thousands. into there in their many, many thousands . and sadly, we know thousands. and sadly, we know that many of those have gone on to commit crimes. join drug gangs exposed by the national gangs as exposed by the national crime agency. so look. yes these people can say we're on top of it, but they're clearly not. the backlog is growing. the home office is utterly incompetent and it needs dealing with. what about the money money side of this? because obviously we're egenttng— this? because obviously we're egenttng ute— this? because obviously we're spending like 617— ti7 because obviously we're spending like 617 who knows how many— spending like 617 who knows how many-gaunte— spending like 617 who knows how many-gaunte a- spending like 617 who knows how many pounds a week on many million pounds a week on netete— many million pounds a week on netete atne— many million pounds a week on hotels alone, a— many million pounds a week on hotels alone, a day— many million pounds a week on hotels alone, a day a day, and attenere— hotels alone, a day a day, and offshore processing is talked about— offshore processing is talked ateutltet— offshore processing is talked aboutllot, but— offshore processing is talked about lot, but it's about a lot, but it's continually- about a lot, but it's continually blocked by lawyers, but continually blocked by lawyers, tut-tne— continually blocked by lawyers, but the establishment, by the but by the establishment, by the uten— but by the establishment, by the net .— but by the establishment, by the net . ant— but by the establishment, by the blob . and-single- but by the establishment, by the blob . and single person blob. and not a single person nae— blob. and not a single person nae-ter— blob. and not a single person has .for rwanda. - blob. and not a single person has for rwanda. so how has left for rwanda. so how neute— has left for rwanda. so how ueutt tnte— has left for rwanda. so how would this work— has left for rwanda. so how would this work in just say if you— would this work in just say if you tt— would this work in just say if you tt yure— would this work in just say if you tt yure a— would this work in just say if you if you're a prime minister, nan— you if you're a prime minister, new neute— you if you're a prime minister, new ueutt you— you if you're a prime minister, how would you be— you if you're a prime minister, how would you be able to do what naen-t— how would you be able to do what naen-t teen— how would you be able to do what hasn't been able— how would you be able to do what hasn't been able to— how would you be able to do what hasn't been able to be done by anybody— hasn't been able to be done by anytetyltare— hasn't been able to be done by anytetyltare — hasn't been able to be done by anybody-far? the- hasn't been able to be done by anybody far? �*" g anybody so far? the first thing is you've got to set up a new department of immigration staffed completely staffed by a completely new team who believe in cause with who believe in the cause with lawyers who believe in the cause
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as well. the moment you do that , it then actually you're into a much better place and you don't have to just use a rwanda, although i was interested that countries like germany, a member of the european union, is now looking at a rwanda plan because they know they've got a problem . also use british . but we could also use british overseas territories, for example . there are a number of example. there are a number of different places where faeroe islands, falklands , there's a islands, falklands, there's a number of different places . number of different places. what about building an island like what about building an island ttte-nreneeet— what about building an island like proposed the bill. like boris proposed the bill. nette— like boris proposed the bill. none-ter— like boris proposed the bill. none-tare - like boris proposed the bill. boris-for ? he- like boris proposed the bill. boris for ? ti; like boris proposed the bill.- boris -for ? he wants an boris island for? he wants an atrpart. rean— boris island for? he wants an airport. yeah, but— boris island for? he wants an airport. yeah, but what- boris island for? ti; yeah, but what about airport. yeah, but what about turning— airport. yeah, but what about tuttttng an— airport. yeah, but what about building an island— yeah, but what about building an island where we count— building an island where we could-container- could put a container centre? we could put a container centre? rue tan-t— could put a container centre? rue tan-t neat— could put a container centre? we don't need to. _ could put a container centre? we don't need to. we've- could put a container centre? we don't need to. we've got existing territories. existing overseas territories. all we can arrangements with all we can do arrangements with rwanda. and let's remember rwanda. and let's remember rwanda was actually praised by un reports for the progress and the help that it's been given in actually supporting refugees from other african countries. what's the mood on the streets about where we're at at the moment? obviously, people are exaeneratet— moment? obviously, people are exasperated and _ moment? obviously, people are exasperated and do— 7 obviously, people are exasperated and do you think we're reaching— exasperated and do you think we're reaching some sort of tipping— we're reaching some sort of tipping point— we're reaching some sort of tipping point, sort of tipping point, some sort of rent— tipping point, some sort of. netnt—nrttten point where the great british
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ueteentng— point where the great british welcoming spirit, the tolerance , tne— welcoming spirit, the tolerance ,tne ttveretty— welcoming spirit, the tolerance , the diversity, the— welcoming spirit, the tolerance , the diversity, the welcoming atu— , the diversity, the welcoming nature, are we— , the diversity, the welcoming nature, are we seeing that getttng— nature, are we seeing that getting stretched to the ateetute — getting stretched to the absolute limit now? ' t: absolute limit now? and that's the tragedy of it, because, yes, we've always been a generous, welcoming, hospitable nation. and we proved it, didn't we, with ukraine last year, women and children, not young men of military age. so we've always had that reputation. but that then becomes diluted or damaged that generosity because we're being abused, we're being exploited , we're being exploited, we're being manipulated by so many people for money and for foot soldiers for money and for foot soldiers for these criminal gangs. and it's got to stop. and i think the mood of the british people is done with this. we've had enough. i spoke to one of these asylum outside hotel enough. i spoke to one of these asleithey outside hotel enough. i spoke to one of these asleithey wentoutside hotel enough. i spoke to one of these asleithey went on side hotel enough. i spoke to one of these asleithey went on strike hotel enough. i spoke to one of these asleithey went on strike because when they went on strike because they weren't happy with the quality bathrooms and the quality of the bathrooms and the wifi. and you think wifi. yeah, and if you think about—targeei wifi. yeah, and if you think- about _ barges, the about these floating barges, the ee—eattet— about these floating barges, the so—called prison— about these floating barges, the so—called prison bars, they look better— so—called prison bars, they look better-a— so—called prison bars, they look better-anat— so—called prison bars, they look better a of holidays better than a lot of holidays rye— better than a lot of holidays rye-rye— better than a lot of holidays i've - i've never- better than a lot of holidays i've i've never afforded to i've had. i've never afforded to get— i've had. i've never afforded to get-en— i've had. i've never afforded to get-en a— i've had. i've never afforded to get-en a reo- i've had. i've never afforded to get on a p&o ferry. get a cabin on a p&o ferry. wrat— get a cabin on a p&o ferry. what a— get a cabin on a p&o ferry. what a disgrace. _ get a cabin on a p&o ferry.
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what a disgrace. british construction workers regularly , construction workers regularly, regularly use that same barge when building offshore wind turbines, for example, or other construction projects. what an absolute disgrace for people in westminster to sensei. that's not good enough for the illegal asylum seekers. when british workers already use that very same barge . well, it's hard to same barge. well, it's hard to argue— same barge. well, it's hard to argue nttn— same barge. well, it's hard to argue with that. _ 1706 well, it's hard to argue with that. richard 213196 well, it's hard to argue with that. richard tice, tnant— argue with that. richard tice, tnant you— argue with that. richard tice, tnant yeu ter— argue with that. richard tice, thank you for joining argue with that. richard tice, thank you forjoining us argue with that. richard tice, thank you for joining us this eventng— thank you for joining us this evening, leader— thank you for joining us this evening, leader of reform evening, leader of the reform partvr _ evening, leader of the reform party, at— evening, leader of the reform party, tat-wett- evening, leader of the reform party, of well, let us evening, leader of the reform party,what well, let us evening, leader of the reform party,what you well, let us evening, leader of the reform party,what you think , let us evening, leader of the reform party,what you think out us evening, leader of the reform party,what you think out there. know what you think out there. sene— know what you think out there. some etreng— know what you think out there. some strong words there. is it going— some strong words there. is it getng tee— some strong words there. is it getng tee-rt— some strong words there. is it getng tee-rt ne- some strong words there. is it going too if we are risking going too far? if we are risking navtng— going too far? if we are risking navtng-trate- going too far? if we are risking having-trade war- going too far? if we are risking having trade war with having a bit of a trade war with trane— having a bit of a trade war with trance-tnat— having a bit of a trade war with france,.thatlprice- having a bit of a trade war with france, that price worth france, is that a price worth paying?— france, is that a price worth gaytnge—rretu paying? let us know. well, eentng— paying? let us know. well,- coming—continuing coming up, we'll be continuing on coming up, we'll be continuing en—wnat- on our reflections. what naggenet— on our reflections. what happened this week happened in nottingham this week as a happened in nottingham this week ae-a treater— happened in nottingham this week as-a broader look- happened in nottingham this week as a broader look at as well as a broader look at eeetat— as well as a broader look at social cohesion— as well as a broader look at social cohesion in britain's communities.— social cohesion in britain's communities. of beyond communities. author of beyond eneveane— communities. author of beyond eneveane or. — communities. author of beyond grievance, dr. raqeeb hassan iatne— grievance, dr. raqeeb hassan iatne ne— grievance, dr. raqeeb hassan iatne ne-tnte— grievance, dr. raqeeb hassan joins me this break. joins me after this break. rteaee— joins me after this break. please-around-
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listening to gb news radio . on listening to gb news radio. on mark dolan tonight in my big opinion, my first on air reaction to the witch hunt against boris johnson. i won't
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be pulling my punches- g "" i won't be pulling my punches and you went— be pulling my punches and you went want— be pulling my punches and you went uant te— be pulling my punches and you won't want to miss it. we'll eneat— won't want to miss it. we'll eneat te— won't want to miss it. we'll epeat ta tne— won't want to miss it. we'll speak to the teacher who was atneet— speak to the teacher who was almost fired— speak to the teacher who was almost fired by— speak to the teacher who was almost fired by an ultra woke eeneet— almost fired by an ultra woke eeneet etngty— almost fired by an ultra woke school simply for— almost fired by an ultra woke school simply for teaching entttren— school simply for teaching children the— school simply for teaching children the birds and the bees - my— children the birds and the bees . try nen— children the birds and the bees . try not neete— children the birds and the bees . my mop meets guest is acting tegent— . my mop meets guest is acting legend amanda— . my mop meets guest is acting legend amanda barrie. star of the legend amanda barrie. star of tne carry— legend amanda barrie. star of tne carry en— legend amanda barrie. star of the carry on films and coronation— the carry on films and coronation street. plus, in my tate— coronation street. plus, in my take at— coronation street. plus, in my take at ten— coronation street. plus, in my take at ten, i'll— coronation street. plus, in my take at ten, i'll be dealing nttn— take at ten, i'll be dealing with bumbling— take at ten, i'll be dealing with bumbling joe biden. and get— with bumbling joe biden. and get tne— with bumbling joe biden. and we've got the papers, my top eunttte— we've got the papers, my top eunttte ant— we've got the papers, my top pundits and tv— we've got the papers, my top pundits and tv news legend john sergeant— pundits and tv news legend john sergeant .— pundits and tv news legend john sergeant . rue-re— pundits and tv news legend john sergeant . we're live from aids . sergeant. we're live from aids. interconne— sergeant. we're live from aids. i welcome back. _ sergeant. we're live from aids. . welcome back. i'm - sergeant. we're live from aids. welcome back. i'm martin daubney in fox. daubney in for laurence fox. well, like me, are you sick to the back teeth of identity politics? the notion that your skin colour should dictate the way you vote or how you think or how you even talk to your friends. what if. so you love our next guest, dr. raqib hassan, whose new book, beyond grievance what the left gets wrong about ethnic minorities,
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was published this week. dr. hassan , welcome to the show. hassan, welcome to the show. it's great to have you on. fabulous looking book. very brave . you're speaking out about brave. you're speaking out about things people things that normally get people like lot of hot water. like you in a lot of hot water. can we start with the notion of where did identity politics come from ? i think it's because the from? i think it's because the liberal left realised the working classes were no more used to them because they realised that capitalism was the way out. they invented a new way out. so they invented a new grievance system to divide and conquer. anyway, that's enough of white splaining. what's of me. white splaining. what's your take? well, my take, nantn— your take? well, my take, trartn te— your take? well, my take, martin, is well,— . 7 well, my take, martin, is well, firstly, all tne— martin, is well, firstly, all the insults— martin, is well, firstly, all the insults i've- martin, is well, firstly, all the insults i've received over tne— the insults i've received over tne teet— the insults i've received over tne teet te— the insults i've received over the book is very— the insults i've received over the book is very much water off a duet-e— the book is very much water off a tune tatt— the book is very much water off a duck's back. really i think tnat— a duck's back. really i think tnat ene— a duck's back. really i think that one thing— a duck's back. really i think that one thing that i really ttettte— that one thing that i really dislike about— that one thing that i really dislike about contempt every tetttet— dislike about contempt every leftist politics— dislike about contempt every leftist politics is— dislike about contempt every leftist politics is the fact tnat— leftist politics is the fact tnat nee— leftist politics is the fact that we're seeing this toxic raetat— that we're seeing this toxic racial identity— that we're seeing this toxic racial identity politics being tneertet— racial identity politics being imported from _ racial identity politics being imported from the united states and imported from the united states ant tne— imported from the united states and the argument— imported from the united states and the argument i make in the teet— and the argument i make in the teet te— and the argument i make in the book is actually— and the argument i make in the book is actually that fragments the book is actually that fragments tne nrttten — book is actually that fragments the british working classes and unat— the british working classes and that r— the british working classes and
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that r want— the british working classes and what i want to— the british working classes and what i want to see and i'm sure tnat— what i want to see and i'm sure tnat unat— what i want to see and i'm sure tnat unat yeu-t— what i want to see and i'm sure that what you'd like to see as nett— that what you'd like to see as war, ne— that what you'd like to see as well, mine is— that what you'd like to see as well, mine is a— that what you'd like to see as well, mine is a mature labour party— well, mine is a mature labour party unten— well, mine is a mature labour party which represents the enaret— party which represents the shared economic concerns and eeetat— shared economic concerns and social grievance— shared economic concerns and social grievance forces which tet— social grievance forces which ttet tegetner— social grievance forces which tied together britain's multiracial— tied together britain's multiracial working classes. and i multiracial working classes. and r tntnt— multiracial working classes. and r tntnt at— multiracial working classes. and rtntnt at tne— multiracial working classes. and i think at the moment, and i teet— i think at the moment, and i teet tnat— i think at the moment, and i feel that the— i think at the moment, and i feel that the labour party is teettng— feel that the labour party is teettng tee— feel that the labour party is looking too much to its ideological— looking too much to its ideological counterparts in the us ideological counterparts in the us ae— ideological counterparts in the us ae eeeeeet— ideological counterparts in the us as opposed to— ideological counterparts in the us as opposed to focusing on the treat— us as opposed to focusing on the treat ant— us as opposed to focusing on the bread and butter— us as opposed to focusing on the bread and butter issues in entan— bread and butter issues in britain today— bread and butter issues in britain today. - bread and butter issues in britain today . “43?“ " britain today. yeah, i mean, i agree with that. i mean, i was a labour party voter for 20 odd years. i come from a very white working background working class background and i found me were hated found people like me were hated by party. didn't leave the by the party. i didn't leave the labour left back labour party. they left me back to the notion of people should vote along lines of their colour. there's this, this, this apprehension . you need to vote apprehension. you need to vote labour if you're a black ethnic minority. it's nonsense, isn't it? we saw, for example, the brexit referendum 40% of beams, as they're called, voted for brexit. more people voted for brexit. more people voted for brexit in london than voted for sadiq khan. as london mayor how do we get out of this? also in
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the states, this idea that you must vote for the democrat party if you're black, kanye west, of course, causing of trouble course, causing a lot of trouble about we break this about that. how do we break this mentality ? motty it would be mentality? motty it would be very difficult, martin, because in some ways, this mentality , in some ways, this mentality, this toxic mentality has become embedded and, um, among among elements of the british political left and i think that is a serious problem that people expect voters to subscribe to a particular set of liberal values , jus purely because on the purely on the basis of the colour of their skin, i think that kind of that kind of mentality has no place in a mature, multiracial democracy . mature, multiracial democracy. and i think what i argue for in the and i think what i argue for in tne teet. — and i think what i argue for in the book. martin— and i think what i argue for in the book. martin is actually the tateur— the book. martin is actually the tateur natty— the book. martin is actually the labour party needs to be more eeen— labour party needs to be more open-embracing— labour party needs to be more open embracing the open to embracing the traditional— open to embracing the traditional of faith, traditional triad of faith, tantty— traditional triad of faith, tantty ant— traditional triad of faith, family and flag. many ethnic ntnertty— family and flag. many ethnic minority people— family and flag. many ethnic minority people in britain do not minority people in britain do net eee— minority people in britain do not see themselves as victims as tney— they appreciate the opportunities , protections and opportunities, protections and treetene— opportunities, protections and treetene-te- opportunities, protections and freedoms to them under freedoms afforded to them under entren— freedoms afforded to them under british democracy— freedoms afforded to them under british democracy .— freedoms afforded to them under british democracy . and if you british democracy. and if you aetuatty— british democracy. and if you aetuatty tt— british democracy. and if you actually if you _ british democracy. and if you actually if you see a number of
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eeetat— actually if you see a number of eeetat ant— actually if you see a number of social and economic metrics, you nave— social and economic metrics, you navelnunter— social and economic metrics, you navelnunter et— social and economic metrics, you have number of ethnic minority have a number of ethnic minority greune— have a number of ethnic minority groups outperforming have a number of ethnic minority group british rutperforming have a number of ethnic minority group british mainstream] have a number of ethnic minority group british mainstream , which white british mainstream, which is white british mainstream, which te greeteety— white british mainstream, which te greeteety-r— white british mainstream, which is precisely-i say- white british mainstream, which is precisely i say that the is precisely why i say that the tert— is precisely why i say that the tett-te — is precisely why i say that the tett-te te — is precisely why i say that the left-to do away- is precisely why i say that the left to do away with toxic left needs to do away with toxic , unte— left needs to do away with toxic , white, privileged— left needs to do away with toxic , white, privileged theories unten— , white, privileged theories which imported , white, privileged theories- which-imported from which are being imported from the which are being imported from tne-statee. — which are being imported from the-states. yeah,- which are being imported from the states. yeah, i mean, the united states. yeah, i mean, tnat-e— the united states. yeah, i mean, tnat-e-ny— the united states. yeah, i mean, tnat-e-ny - the united states. yeah, i mean, that's-my ears. i've. that's music to my ears. i've teen— that's music to my ears. i've teenen—- that's music to my ears. i've been _on whitel that's music to my ears. i've been class on white that's music to my ears. i've been class lads on white that's music to my ears. i've been class lads in white working class lads in particular. of particular. the bottom of education 25 straight years. education for 25 straight years. the highest performers in britain are indian and britain now are indian and chinese kids. so clearly there's no problems. one one thing i love about your book, as well is identifying this problem. we can all agree on. you've some all agree on. you've got some great solutions. one thing i absolutely this absolutely love is this notion of family stability act , the of a family stability act, the nofion of a family stability act, the notion of celebrating family. and you've got some eye—watering statistics there about about the absolute explosion in the number of single parent families in britain. tell us about that . britain. tell us about that. absolutely. and firstly , i'll absolutely. and firstly, i'll mate— absolutely. and firstly, i'll make tne— absolutely. and firstly, i'll make the point, motty. and i tntnt— make the point, motty. and i tntnt tnat— make the point, motty. and i think that there's there is etngte— think that there's there is single mothers across the eeuntry— single mothers across the eeuntry. tney— single mothers across the country. they fantastic job country. they do a fantastic job ant— country. they do a fantastic job ant tney— country. they do a fantastic job ant tney eene— country. they do a fantastic job and they serve their children to the and they serve their children to tne teet— and they serve their children to tne teet et— and they serve their children to the best of their— and they serve their children to the best of their ability. but
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tne— the best of their ability. but tne reattty— the best of their ability. but the reality is— the best of their ability. but the reality is what i'm talking ateut— the reality is what i'm talking ateut nere— the reality is what i'm talking about here is— the reality is what i'm talking about here is that there are eertatn— about here is that there are certain family— about here is that there are certain family structures which are—associated. are more strongly associated uttn— are more strongly associated uttn-yeutn- are more strongly associated with youth outcomes, are more strongly associated with that'south outcomes, are more strongly associated with that's inth outcomes, are more strongly associated with that's in education, s, are more strongly associated with that's in education, in whether that's in education, in eegntttve— whether that's in education, in cognitive development , mental cognitive development, mental nett—tetng— cognitive development, mental well—being, and— cognitive development, mental well—being, and then further tenn— well—being, and then further teun tne— well—being, and then further down the line,— well—being, and then further down the line, socioeconomic gregreee— down the line, socioeconomic gregreee .— down the line, socioeconomic gregreee . vee— down the line, socioeconomic progress . yes. and i think the progress. yes. and i think the rent— progress. yes. and i think the eetnt tnat— progress. yes. and i think the eetnt tnat r— progress. yes. and i think the point that i make in this book is point that i make in this book te tnat— point that i make in this book te tnat a— point that i make in this book is that a stable— point that i make in this book is that a stable two parent at nene— is that a stable two parent at nene te— is that a stable two parent at nene te tnat— is that a stable two parent at home is that model, which is a eeuete— home is that model, which is a couple married— home is that model, which is a couple married couple is aetuatty— couple married couple is actually the— couple married couple is actually the model which is most etrengty— actually the model which is most strongly associated— actually the model which is most strongly associated with those neetttve— strongly associated with those eeetttye yeutn — strongly associated with those positive youth outcomes. so the tateur— positive youth outcomes. so the tateur party,— positive youth outcomes. so the labour party, there's a great teat— labour party, there's a great teat et— labour party, there's a great deal of talk— labour party, there's a great deal of talk within the labour party— deal of talk within the labour rany ateut— deal of talk within the labour party about introducing a new tate— party about introducing a new rtaee tguattty— party about introducing a new race equality act, but actually i race equality act, but actually rtntnt— race equality act, but actually rtntnt tnat— race equality act, but actually i think that britain, considering it's a major international- considering it's a major international hotspot when it te— international hotspot when it comes to breakdown , comes to family breakdown, eernane— comes to family breakdown, eernaee a— comes to family breakdown, perhaps a better idea would be the introduction— perhaps a better idea would be the introduction of a family stattttty— the introduction of a family stability act— the introduction of a family stability act that would stability act and that would tnetute— stability act and that would include introducing family trtentty— include introducing family friendly protections british friendly protections for british uereret— friendly protections for british workers , promoting the workers, promoting the institution _ workers, promoting the institution marriage within institution of marriage within the institution of marriage within tne tax— institution of marriage within the tax system,— institution of marriage within the tax system, which would tung— the tax system, which would trtng—tni bring britain pretty much in ttne—et- bring britain pretty much in line—of europe. bring britain pretty much in line—of europe .i bring britain pretty much in. line—of europe . and bring britain pretty much in- line_of europe . and i line with much of europe. and i tntnt— line with much of europe. and i tntnt-ue— line with much of europe. and i think-we should- line with much of europe. and i think we should maybe think that we should maybe have a—nntenl a new government unit, which reatty— a new government unit, which reatty teete— a new government unit, which really looks at— a new government unit, which really looks at the policy tnnaete— really looks at the policy tnpaete en—
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really looks at the policy impacts on family stability, unetner— impacts on family stability, whether that's— impacts on family stability, whether that's health care, neuetng,— whether that's health care, housing, employment or crime. i tntnt— housing, employment or crime. i tntnt tnat— housing, employment or crime. i think that would— housing, employment or crime. i think that would be a really eeetttve— think that would be a really eeetttye step— think that would be a really positive step in— think that would be a really positive step in the right treeten— positive step in the right direction in— positive step in the right direction in terms of social pettey— direction in terms of social petteylnean— direction in terms of social policy. mean, these are old policy. i mean, these are old taentenet— policy. i mean, these are old fashioned conservative values in many— fashioned conservative values in many senses. but— fashioned conservative values in many senses. t:t3 fashioned conservative values in many senses. t:t:3t fashioned conservative values in many senses. gti many senses. but how do we get around the fact i mean, i actually heard david lammy say something once. it's something sensible once. it's true person . when the lammy true in person. when the lammy report came out, he did a fantastic section that about fantastic section in that about the effect of fatherlessness on outcomes of education. all the things you just mentioned, it was very quickly buried because because it didn't sit well with a lot of labour voters who might be single parents, families who might be from ethnic minorities . how do you gel these progressive, sensible policies with a party that seems very resistant to that kind of thinking ? well, the reality is thinking? well, the reality is tnat— thinking? well, the reality is tnat tne— thinking? well, the reality is that the labour— "g7’ well, the reality is that the labour party, there's a reat— that the labour party, there's a neat tnere-e— that the labour party, there's a neat tnere-e a— that the labour party, there's a real there's a real— that the labour party, there's a real there's a real shortage of meta— real there's a real shortage of nerat .— real there's a real shortage of moral , political— real there's a real shortage of moral , political leadership on moral, political leadership on the moral, political leadership on tne entren— moral, political leadership on the british left. _ moral, political leadership on the british left. and i think tnat— the british left. and i think tnat et— the british left. and i think that of course,— the british left. and i think that of course, for example, unen— that of course, for example, unen yeu— that of course, for example, unen yeu a— that of course, for example, when you a serious controversy tac— when you a serious controversy tac euen— when you a serious controversy tac euen ae— when you a serious controversy rac such as the—
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when you a serious controversy rac such as the windrush scandal , tney— rac such as the windrush scandal , tney nave— rac such as the windrush scandal , tney nave te— rac such as the windrush scandal to nave te te— rac such as the windrush scandal , they have to be addressed. and i , they have to be addressed. and t tntnt— , they have to be addressed. and t tntnt tnat— , they have to be addressed. and i think that that's— , they have to be addressed. and i think that that's done untold tanage— i think that that's done untold tanage te— i think that that's done untold damage to institutional trust nttntn— damage to institutional trust within communities of black cartttean— within communities of black caribbean origin. but saying tnat— caribbean origin. but saying tnat t— caribbean origin. but saying that i think— caribbean origin. but saying that i think one— caribbean origin. but saying that i think one of the biggest treetene— that i think one of the biggest problems faced— that i think one of the biggest problems faced young black cartttean— problems faced young black caribbean origin communities in the caribbean origin communities in tne eeuntry— caribbean origin communities in tne eeuntryltne— caribbean origin communities in the country the fact that the country is the fact that entttren— the country is the fact that children of _ the country is the fact that children of black caribbean ertgtn— children of black caribbean engtn, eere— children of black caribbean origin, 63% live— children of black caribbean origin, 63% live in lone parent neueenette— origin, 63% live in lone parent neueenette .— origin, 63% live in lone parent households , and— origin, 63% live in lone parent households , and that drops all households, and that drops all the households, and that drops all tne nay— households, and that drops all tne nay te— households, and that drops all the way to down _ households, and that drops all the way to down 6% for their tnttan— the way to down 6% for their indian heritage— the way to down 6% for their indian heritage peers . and i indian heritage peers. and i tntnt— indian heritage peers. and i think that's— indian heritage peers. and i think that's a— indian heritage peers. and i think that's a big point i make in think that's a big point i make tn tne— think that's a big point i make tn tne teet— think that's a big point i make in the book is— think that's a big point i make in the book is that that's preeteety— in the book is that that's greeteety uny— in the book is that that's precisely why i don't like the naut— precisely why i don't like the taut—att- precisely why i don't like the bame_all.thei bame acronym at all in the ettee— bame acronym at all in the slice,-there's- bame acronym at all in the slice, there's some bame acronym at all in the- slice,-there's some very slice, because there's some very serious differences between nttntn— serious differences between within minorities serious differences betweeni within-minorities. within our ethnic minorities. ant— within our ethnic minorities. ant tnat— within our ethnic minorities. ant tnat tn— within our ethnic minorities. and that in turn— within our ethnic minorities. and that in turn feeds into raetat— and that in turn feeds into racial disparities that we see rangtng— racial disparities that we see rangtng tren — racial disparities that we see ranging from education to eneteynent— ranging from education to employment. how how damaging do you employment. how how damaging do yeu tntnt— employment. how how damaging do you think identity— employment. how how damaging do you think identity politics has teen— you think identity politics has been te— you think identity politics has been te tne— you think identity politics has been to the fabric of britain ? been to the fabric of britain? ohr_ been to the fabric of britain? on. t— been to the fabric of britain? on. t tttnt— been to the fabric of britain? oh, i think it's— been to the fabric of britain? oh, i think it's been- been to the fabric of britain? oh, i think it's been hugely damaging. ithink oh, i think it's been hugely damaging. i think that the emergence of— damaging. i think that the emergence of the- : g g i think that the emergence of the black lives matter— emergence of the black lives matter movement, i think that it very— matter movement, i think that it very nuan— matter movement, i think that it very much threatened to set back race relations— very much threatened to set back race relations as— very much threatened to set back race relations as opposed to improving— race relations as opposed to improving them— race relations as opposed to improving them in this country. i improving them in this country. t teet— improving them in this country. t teet a— improving them in this country. t teet a tet— improving them in this country. i took a lot of— improving them in this country.
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i took a lot of flak— improving them in this country. i took a lot of flak when i entered— i took a lot of flak when i criticised blm_ i took a lot of flak when i criticised blm following the neute— criticised blm following the police killing _ criticised blm following the police killing of george floyd in police killing of george floyd tn tne— police killing of george floyd tn tne us— police killing of george floyd in the us state— police killing of george floyd in the us state of minnesota. nut— in the us state of minnesota. nut tut.— in the us state of minnesota. nut tut. nut.— in the us state of minnesota. but but. but. the— in the us state of minnesota. but but. but. the reality is tnat— but but. but. the reality is tnat tt— but but. but. the reality is that if people— but but. but. the reality is that if people truly care about young— that if people truly care about yeung ttaet— that if people truly care about young black lives in britain , young black lives in britain, eeeeetatty— young black lives in britain, eeneetatty tn— young black lives in britain, especially in london, they tney-tt— especially in london, they tney-tt tatt— especially in london, they they'll talk a— especially in london, they they'll talk a lot more about tantty— they'll talk a lot more about family structure.— they'll talk a lot more about family structure. they will talk ateut— family structure. they will talk more about fatherlessness teauee— more about fatherlessness teauee tn— more about fatherlessness because in the— more about fatherlessness because in the absence of a reeeenettte— because in the absence of a responsible work— because in the absence of a responsible work male role model in responsible work male role model tn tne— responsible work male role model in the household— responsible work male role model in the household ,_ responsible work male role model in the household , then young in the household, then young teye— in the household, then young teye vit— in the household, then young boys will seek— in the household, then young boys will seek that sense of tetengtng— boys will seek that sense of belonging and— boys will seek that sense of belonging and rootedness eteevvtere— belonging and rootedness elsewhere. and unfortunately, tnat— elsewhere. and unfortunately, tnat nay— elsewhere. and unfortunately, tnat rnay vett— elsewhere. and unfortunately, that may well come home of gang nenterentn— that may well come home of gang membership and— that may well come home of gang membership and ultimately being a rnernetr— membership and ultimately being a nernter et— membership and ultimately being a nernter et a— membership and ultimately being a member of a gang significantly netgntene— a member of a gang significantly netgntene a— a member of a gang significantly heightens a young— a member of a gang significantly heightens a young person's involvement— heightens a young person's involvement in— heightens a young person's involvement in criminal aettvtty— involvement in criminal activity. now,- involvement in criminal activity. now, these are very eenetttve— activity. now, these are very sensitive issues,— activity. now, these are very sensitive issues, and they are tney— sensitive issues, and they are tney are— sensitive issues, and they are they are difficult— sensitive issues, and they are they are difficult conversations to they are difficult conversations te te— they are difficult conversations te te nat— they are difficult conversations te te nat .— they are difficult conversations to be had . but— they are difficult conversations to be had . but if— they are difficult conversations to be had . but if we don't have to be had. but if we don't have ten,— to be had. but if we don't have ten vve-re— to be had. but if we don't have them, we're not— to be had. but if we don't have them, we're not we're doing many young— them, we're not we're doing many yeung teette— them, we're not we're doing many yeung teette tn— them, we're not we're doing many yeung teette tn eu— them, we're not we're doing many young people in our country a fundamental— young people in our country a fundamental disservice . fundamental disservice. okay, ttttt— fundamental disservice. okay, ttttt weave— fundamental disservice. okay, rikki neave, you're speaking acres and acres of common sense. thank you very much. you'll never catch on. well, hope it never catch on. well, i hope it does. you very much. the does. thank you very much. the book now grievance book is out now beyond grievance what wrong about
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what the left gets wrong about ethnic minorities. well, coming up, the other defining up, it's the other defining story week, course. story of the week, of course. bods story of the week, of course. boris johnson as an boris johnson has resigned as an mp partygate inquiry was mp and the partygate inquiry was published yesterday. published just yesterday. we'll be panel next. could be asking our panel next. could this the end for boris this be the end for boris johnson after this
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patrick christys on gb news. i'm gb patrick christys on gb news. i'm at tene— patrick christys on gb news. i'm at uevve tatte— patrick christys on gb news. i'm gb news radio .— patrick christys on gb news. i'm gb news radio . welcome back. gb news radio. welcome back. i'm gb news radio. welcome back. t-nn trarttn— gb news radio. welcome back. i'm martin daubney— gb news radio. welcome back. i'm martin daubney in- gb news radio. welcome back. i'm martin daubney in for- i'm martin daubney in for lawrence fox. well, i asked you earlier how do we make britain safe again? should we close the borders, deport all foreign criminals? should we even arm the police? while you've been getting with your getting in touch with your thoughts in your droves, first getting in touch with your thois hts in your droves, first getting in touch with your thois martin,our droves, first getting in touch with your thois martin, notdroves, first getting in touch with your thois martin, not me es, first getting in touch with your thois martin, not me .s, first getting in touch with your thois martin, not me . we rst off is martin, not me. we should. we should declare a state of emergency on our borders and temporarily close state of emergency on our borde andid temporarily close state of emergency on our borde and completelyily close state of emergency on our borde and completely ignore e state of emergency on our borde and completely ignore the them and completely ignore the echr. but as you highlighted, martin, the current cabinet and labour are terrified of any criticism and will not take the decisive action required. next point from taz. he says most of our country's problems are being copied from america. it's time we stood up for ourselves here,
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here next point from nina ricci is a gutless, weak prime minister nina, speak your mind freely. a bit more next time. who wasn't voted into that position in the first place? we need a leader who will take action and not let off hot air and on the topic of boris morris says boris is being bullied by parliament by any definition , parliament by any definition, constantly picking on somebody is bullying. well that's your thoughts. it's been quite an eventful week in westminster. some laughter to my left and right panels about to kick in because just hours before boris johnson resigned as an mp last week, his resignation honours were published, which led to a pubuc were published, which led to a public squabble between the former and current prime minister. then when boris did resign, he publicly lambasted the privileges committee for what he deemed to be a witch hunt and a kangaroo court , where hunt and a kangaroo court, where the public will have teetering on the edge of their seats awaiting the publication of that report with delays setting in as a result of printing problems,
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of all things . and finally, just of all things. and finally, just yesterday, the report was published and it had recommended a suspension of 90 days, a sanction well past the threshold of ten days that could have allowed boris constituents to trigger a by—election if a majority in parliament had approved it. well none of that matters now because he's resigned , of course, but resigned, of course, but parliament will vote on monday, irrespective of whether to let the to back the reports recommendations, which also include permanently removing bods include permanently removing boris paul coyte mentary pass all of this poses much broader questions, the most crucial of which is being is this the end for boris johnson? well joining me now to hopefully answer this question is the former editor of the sunday mirror, paul coney, and the political commentator benjamin loughnan. so hello to you both. let's start with you , you both. let's start with you, paul you both. let's start with you, paul, because you were away there . has been unfairly there. has boris been unfairly treated by a kangaroo court or is he a coward that deserted the battlefield? and it's not even
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over for him? because guess what? he just landed a whopping massive column with the massive new column with the daily mail. i was just beginning reattng— daily mail. i was just beginning reattng nte— daily mail. i was just beginning reading his column— daily mail. i was just beginning reading his column in- jit 3 iirit c i was just beginning reading his column in the daily natt— reading his column in the daily ttatt unten— reading his column in the daily mail, which doesn't include uneeet— unless they're holding something tat.— unless they're holding something tat—rte- unless they're holding something taet.—tt-e att- back. any politics? it's all ateut— back. any politics? it's all about-battle- back. any politics? it's all about-battle to - back. any politics? it's all about battle to find about his battle to find a venera— about his battle to find a wonder drug— about his battle to find a wonder drug to lose weight. and it's wonder drug to lose weight. and tt-e tutt— wonder drug to lose weight. and tt-e tutt et— wonder drug to lose weight. and it's full of references to trutue— it's full of references to brutus and— it's full of references to brutus and cassius . but i had it's full of references to brutus and cassius. but i had a een— brutus and cassius. but i had a eert et— brutus and cassius. but i had a eert et ne— brutus and cassius. but i had a eert et t— brutus and cassius. but i had a sort of no, i don't— brutus and cassius. but i had a sort of no, i don't think he's i t-n net— sort of no, i don't think he's i mean, i'm not sure- sort of no, i don't think he's i mean, i'm not sure about whether 90 mean, i'm not sure about whether to eaye— mean, i'm not sure about whether to taye nae— mean, i'm not sure about whether to taye tn— mean, i'm not sure about whether 90 days was in order— mean, i'm not sure about whether 90 days was in order anyway , but 90 days was in order anyway, but he 90 days was in order anyway, but ne teeervet— 90 days was in order anyway, but he deserved what— 90 days was in order anyway, but he deserved what he got. and i'm tnat— he deserved what he got. and i'm tnat tne— he deserved what he got. and i'm sure that the 90— he deserved what he got. and i'm sure that the 90 days came about as sure that the 90 days came about ae a reeutt— sure that the 90 days came about ae a reeutt et— sure that the 90 days came about as a result of his.— sure that the 90 days came about as a result of his. i— sure that the 90 days came about as a result of his. i thought it nertntng— as a result of his. i thought it was morphing into donald trump, aetuatty— was morphing into donald trump, aetuatty, vttn— was morphing into donald trump, actually, with with— was morphing into donald trump, actually, with with kangaroo eeurte— actually, with with kangaroo eeurte .— actually, with with kangaroo eeurte , yeu — actually, with with kangaroo courts , you know, and stitch ups courts, you know, and stitch ups . ant,— courts, you know, and stitch ups . ant, yeu— courts, you know, and stitch ups . ant, yeu knew,— courts, you know, and stitch ups . and, you know, it— courts, you know, and stitch ups . and, you know, it was it was gutte— . and, you know, it was it was quite extraordinary. and i think i quite extraordinary. and i think t tntnt— quite extraordinary. and i think i think monday,— quite extraordinary. and i think i think monday, of course , is i think monday, of course, is nte— i think monday, of course, is he set— i think monday, of course, is his 59th birthday, where he went— his 59th birthday, where he went te— his 59th birthday, where he won't be there,— his 59th birthday, where he won't be there, of course. but tne— won't be there, of course. but tne cernrnene— won't be there, of course. but the commons will— won't be there, of course. but the commons will be voting. i nat— the commons will be voting. i tag a— the commons will be voting. i tag a etrange— the commons will be voting. i had a strange dream last night. i had a strange dream last night. t tnagtnet— had a strange dream last night. i imagined that— had a strange dream last night. i imagined that nadine dorries, of course, missed— i imagined that nadine dorries, of course, missed out on her. tene—
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of course, missed out on her. terte ttannet— of course, missed out on her. boris planned knighthood would jump— boris planned knighthood would jump up,— boris planned knighthood would jump ut, treat— boris planned knighthood would jump up, break parliamentary eete— jump up, break parliamentary eete ant— jump up, break parliamentary eete ant etng— jump up, break parliamentary code and sing happy birthday to the code and sing happy birthday to tne ateent— code and sing happy birthday to the absent boris— code and sing happy birthday to the absent boris .— code and sing happy birthday to the absent boris. but that maybe tnat-e— the absent boris. but that maybe tnat-e tuet— the absent boris. but that maybe tnat-e tuet ny— the absent boris. but that maybe that's just my illusion. yeah vett— that's just my illusion. yeah vett t— that's just my illusion. yeah well, i mean,— that's just my illusion. yeah well, i mean, for— that's just my illusion. yeah well, i mean, for starters, vnere— well, i mean, for starters, vvnere te— well, i mean, for starters, where do you— well, i mean, for starters, where do you go from, from, from rig,— where do you go from, from, from tnat, nag,— where do you go from, from, from that, that, that,— where do you go from, from, from that, that, that, that dream. i turn— that, that, that, that dream. i tttnt yeu— that, that, that, that dream. i think you should— that, that, that, that dream. i think you should ask- that, that, that, that dream. i think you should ask for- think you should ask for a refund on his weight loss drugs. because they don't to have because they don't seem to have worked. but on a serious worked. but but on a serious note, benjamin has he been, you know royally stitched up know right. royally stitched up because everyone this because because everyone this exit has allowed him , hasn't it, exit has allowed him, hasn't it, that wiggle room. well it was all a stitch up. i had to fall on my sword first. but has he really deserted really just deserted the battlefield? think he's battlefield? well, i think he's done certainly done things wrong. he certainly needs-punished- done things wrong. he certainly needs-punished for- done things wrong. he certainly needs-punished for how. : gti g he certainly needs punished for how he needs to be punished for how he tn— needs to be punished for how he tn etttee— needs to be punished for how he was in office when— needs to be punished for how he was in office when he was prime tttnteten— was in office when he was prime tttnteten-ne— was in office when he was prime minister.-he made- was in office when he was prime minister. he made some minister. i think he made some key ntetatee— minister. i think he made some key mistakes, don't think key mistakes, but i don't think unat— key mistakes, but i don't think tnat—ter- key mistakes, but i don't think vnat—ter nevi key mistakes, but i don't think. what—for now is what he's being done for now is , you— what he's being done for now is ,yeu-ranttng— , you know, ramping up immigration— , you know, ramping up immigration ,- , you know, ramping up immigration , locking up immigration, locking up the entre— immigration, locking up the entire country. _ immigration, locking up the entire country. we now know with the entire country. we now know with tne-etteete— entire country. we now know with the - effects - came - the adverse effects that came tren— the adverse effects that came tren tt— the adverse effects that came tren tt vae— the adverse effects that came from it was probably the wrong teeteten. — from it was probably the wrong decision. .did_ from it was probably the wrong decision. did make mistakes decision. he did make mistakes in decision. he did make mistakes tn etttee— decision. he did make mistakes tn one, tut— decision. he did make mistakes in office, but-don't- decision. he did make mistakes in office, but don't seem in office, but they don't seem to.investigating- in office, but they don't seem to investigating that. to be investigating that. tney-re— to be investigating that. they're and they're investigating cakes and ttrtntay— they're investigating cakes and ttrtntay-t— they're investigating cakes and birthday-i think,- birthday parties. i think, you tney,— birthday parties. i think, you tnevv-nae— birthday parties. i think, you
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know,-haslpoint- birthday parties. i think, you know, has point in the know, boris has a point in the eenee-ne-e— know, boris has a point in the sense - he's being - know, boris has a point in the sense he's being done over sense that he's being done over a - peccadilloes. - sense that he's being done over a-peccadilloes. but. a tiny little peccadilloes. but in a tiny little peccadilloes. but tn reattty— a tiny little peccadilloes. but tn reattty, ne— a tiny little peccadilloes. but in reality, he has— a tiny little peccadilloes. but in reality, he has actually done gutte— in reality, he has actually done gutte a— in reality, he has actually done gutte a tet— in reality, he has actually done quite a lot wrong. : quite a lot wrong. i wonder actually, if he's going to be happy about fact. he's got happy about that fact. he's got a gig now. fact, a newspaper gig now. in fact, we've got a short video here. we can can play of boris can we can play of boris accepting this and he calls accepting this gig. and he calls another kerfuffle because he didn't parliament until didn't tell parliament until half check this half an hour before. check this out. folks. borisjohnson out. hi folks. borisjohnson nere. — out. hi folks. borisjohnson nere. t— out. hi folks. borisjohnson nere. tann— out. hi folks. borisjohnson here. i am thrilled to be asked to contribute a column to the daily mail and i can tell you readers of the daily mail that it is going to be exact shortly. what i think about the world. it is going to be completely unexpurgated stuff . i'm going to unexpurgated stuff. i'm going to be writing whatever i want. i may even have to cover politics tren — may even have to cover politics tren ttne— may even have to cover politics tren ttne te — may even have to cover politics from time to time,— may even have to cover politics from time to time, but i'll etvteuety— from time to time, but i'll etvteuety try— from time to time, but i'll obviously try to - from time to time, but i'll obviously try to do that as ttttte— obviously try to do that as ttttte ae— obviously try to do that as little as possible unless i ateetutety— little as possible unless i absolutely have to. ' t: little as possible unless i- absolutely have to. and i'm much looking forward to making my first contribution to those illustrious pages on saturday. join me in the daily mail on saturday. all right, that'll do
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ttne— saturday. all right, that'll do ttne . — saturday. all right, that'll do ttne . vett— saturday. all right, that'll do fine . well, there— saturday. all right, that'll do fine . well, there we- saturday. all right, that'll do fine . well, there we go. that's fine. well, there we go. that's bods fine. well, there we go. that's boris being boris again. it's worth pointing out, of course , worth pointing out, of course, paul worth pointing out, of course, paul, that the parliamentary standards committee said that bods standards committee said that boris has breached rules by not consulting them before we just took the gig. but as a former newspaper man, you have to admit that boris having a column in the mail is a good fit and he will be able to lob grenades at the tory party from the sidelines and cause absolute bedlam. yes i was aware this morning i said he'd been. the mail had given him a- g the mail had given him a sniper's neet— mail had given him a sniper's neet vvttn— mail had given him a sniper's nest with which— mail had given him a sniper's nest with which he could aetuatty— nest with which he could actually pepper rishi sunak when ne— actually pepper rishi sunak when ever he wanted— actually pepper rishi sunak when ever he wanted ,_ actually pepper rishi sunak when ever he wanted , but he has to be ever he wanted, but he has to be very— ever he wanted, but he has to be very earetut— ever he wanted, but he has to be very careful because there are a grevtng— very careful because there are a grevtng nurnter— very careful because there are a growing number of— very careful because there are a growing number of tory mps, even tene— growing number of tory mps, even terte atntrere— growing number of tory mps, even boris admirers ,_ growing number of tory mps, even boris admirers , who— growing number of tory mps, even boris admirers , who are now boris admirers, who are now ttrtng— boris admirers, who are now ttrtng et— boris admirers, who are now ttrtng et tne— boris admirers, who are now tiring of the damage he is doing to tiring of the damage he is doing te tne— tiring of the damage he is doing te tne rety— tiring of the damage he is doing te tne tery rany— tiring of the damage he is doing to the tory party and even there was a recent in— to the tory party and even there was a recent in the— to the tory party and even there was a recent in the last few taye— was a recent in the last few taye a— was a recent in the last few taye a etuty— was a recent in the last few days a study done which euggeetet— days a study done which suggested that about 40 or 50%
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of suggested that about 40 or 50% et tery— suggested that about 40 or 50% et tery natty— suggested that about 40 or 50% of tory party members now feel he of tory party members now feel ne te— of tory party members now feel ne te getng— of tory party members now feel ne te getng tee— of tory party members now feel he is going too far— of tory party members now feel he is going too far with his attaete— he is going too far with his attaete. t— he is going too far with his attacks. i mean— he is going too far with his attacks. i mean , funnily enough, attacks. i mean, funnily enough, i'm attacks. i mean, funnily enough, t-n tne— attacks. i mean, funnily enough, i'm the co—author_ attacks. i mean, funnily enough, i'm the co—author of a book that eut— i'm the co—author of a book that eut tate— i'm the co—author of a book that came out late last— i'm the co—author of a book that came out late last year on boris eattet— came out late last year on boris eattet terte— came out late last year on boris called boris johnson media creatten— called boris johnson media creation media— called boris johnson media creation media clown and media caeuatty— creation media clown and media caeuatty .— creation media clown and media casualty , which— creation media clown and media casualty , which i— creation media clown and media casualty , which i predicted it casualty, which i predicted it ent— casualty, which i predicted it ent ut— casualty, which i predicted it ent ut vvnttng— casualty, which i predicted it end up writing a— casualty, which i predicted it end up writing a daily mail eeurnnt— end up writing a daily mail eeurnnt .— end up writing a daily mail column . but— end up writing a daily mail column. but of— end up writing a daily mail column . but of course, paul column. but of course, paul taere— column. but of course, paul taere te— column. but of course, paul taere te very— column. but of course, paul dacre is very close to him . and dacre is very close to him. and tetay-e— dacre is very close to him. and tetay-e tatty— dacre is very close to him. and today's daily mail— dacre is very close to him. and today's daily mail, dacre is very close to him. and today's daily mail , for example, today's daily mail, for example, is today's daily mail, for example, te eage— today's daily mail, for example, te tage arter— today's daily mail, for example, te tage atter eage— today's daily mail, for example, is page after page after page of a euttert— is page after page after page of a eutten urgtng— is page after page after page of a support urging boris us want to a support urging boris us want te tung— a support urging boris us want to bring benjamin . c to bring benjamin. it's absolutely— to bring benjamin. it's absolutely true- to bring benjamin. it's absolutely true that littlejohn did a column today saying it wasn't a kangaroo court, it was a lynch mob. you thought a lynch mob. and you thought that's fruity even for the that's a bit fruity even for the mail. and now, of course, they were for an were paving the way for an announcement they knew was coming. but this is classic boris, isn't it? he'll be able to be floral. he'll be able to be it will be be mischievous. and it will be whether you like him or not. it'll be an unmissable read. yeah, i think he's found his eatttng— yeah, i think he's found his calling here.— yeah, i think he's found his calling here. you know, he's nutt— calling here. you know, he's much better— calling here. you know, he's much better as— calling here. you know, he's much better as a- calling here. you know, he's much better as a columnist than as much better as a columnist than ae-tttnteter— much better as a columnist than as minister certainly. i
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as prime minister certainly. i tntnt— as prime minister certainly. i think-definitely- think that's definitely true. far think that's definitely true. tar—tne. l think that's definitely true. i far—this. i've far better suited to this. i've atvvaye— far better suited to this. i've atvvaye-ateut— far better suited to this. i've always about boris, he's a always said about boris, he's a ttagneettetan— always said about boris, he's a diagnostician genius, diagnostician of genius, but a terrttte— diagnostician of genius, but a terrible doctor.— diagnostician of genius, but a terrible doctor. can terrible doctor. he can say, wnat-e— terrible doctor. he can say,| wnat-e—tetnt terrible doctor. he can say,- what's_point out what's wrong, he can point out the what's wrong, he can point out tne-tut— what's wrong, he can point out tne-tut ne- what's wrong, he can point out the-but he doesn't. what's wrong, he can point out the the but he doesn't what's wrong, he can point out the the solutions. ie doesn't what's wrong, he can point out the the solutions. so ioesn't what's wrong, he can point out the the solutions. so iesn't what's wrong, he can point out the the solutions. so i think have the solutions. so i think he have the solutions. so i think ne—et- have the solutions. so i think ne—et ttaee- have the solutions. so i think ne—et ttaee tn| he was a bit out of place in tunter— he was a bit out of place in uunter ten— he was a bit out of place in number ten because he there number ten because he got there and number ten because he got there ant-tttn-t— number ten because he got there and-didn't know- number ten because he got there and didn't know what to and then he didn't know what to do and then he didn't know what to te-tt-e— and then he didn't know what to te-tt-e-ne- and then he didn't know what to do-it's-he wanted. do with it. it's what he wanted the do with it. it's what he wanted tne-ttne— do with it. it's what he wanted tne-ttne te— do with it. it's what he wanted the-time to be- do with it. it's what he wanted the time to be prime the whole time to be prime tttnteter— the whole time to be prime minister and— the whole time to be prime minister and once he got it, he etteettve— minister and once he got it, he etteettve. ne— minister and once he got it, he effective. he did— minister and once he got it, he effective. he did nothing of any vauet— effective. he did nothing of any vatue—nuan- value. so i think he's much tetter— value. so i think he's much better-mail- value. so i think he's much better-mail thani value. so i think he's much. better-mail than in better off in the mail than in tunter— better off in the mail than in uunter to. — better off in the mail than in number 10. think do you number 10. do you think do you tntnt— number 10. do you think do you tntnt-tatttng— number 10. do you think do you think talking about this think i'm talking about this ttne— think i'm talking about this kind-lazarus— think i'm talking about this kind lazarus style comeback , kind of lazarus style comeback, you— kind of lazarus style comeback, yeu tney,— kind of lazarus style comeback, yeu know, a— kind of lazarus style comeback, you know, a churchillian return to you know, a churchillian return te tne— you know, a churchillian return to the battlefield _ you know, a churchillian return to the battlefield is a nevvetater— to the battlefield is a newspaper column, a an effective and newspaper column, a an effective ant retuet— newspaper column, a an effective ant retuet ant— newspaper column, a an effective and robust and clever way of teettng— and robust and clever way of teettng teettng— and robust and clever way of keeping keeping himself relevant , or keeping keeping himself relevant , er te— keeping keeping himself relevant , er te tt— keeping keeping himself relevant , er te tt tuet— keeping keeping himself relevant , or is it just simply over for terte— , or is it just simply over for boris politically? critj jtiii boris politically? can there te— boris politically? can there te a— boris politically? can there ever be a comeback? it boris politically? can there- ever be a comeback? it certainly netted— ever be a comeback? it certainly nettet ntn — ever be a comeback? it certainly helped him secure,— ever be a comeback? it certainly helped him secure, first- ii7 it certainly helped him secure, first of all, the helped him secure, first of all, tne mayo.— helped him secure, first of all, tne mayo. tne— helped him secure, first of all, the mayor, the london mayor rete— the mayor, the london mayor rete. ant— the mayor, the london mayor rete. ant et— the mayor, the london mayor role. and of course, it played a part— role. and of course, it played a part tn— role. and of course, it played a tan tn ntn — role. and of course, it played a part in him becoming prime tttnteten— part in him becoming prime minister. let's— part in him becoming prime minister. let's not forget that, tnat— minister. let's not forget that, tnat terte— minister. let's not forget that, that boris, although he won the tort— that boris, although he won the 2019 election,— that boris, although he won the 2019 election, he— that boris, although he won the 2019 election, he he was
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anetntet— 2019 election, he he was anointed prime minister by the tery— anointed prime minister by the tery natty— anointed prime minister by the tory party membership and mps. but tory party membership and mps. tut terte— tory party membership and mps. tut terte te— tory party membership and mps. but boris is dangerous and he teeervee— but boris is dangerous and he teeervee ne— but boris is dangerous and he deserves he deserves to depart the deserves he deserves to depart tne tetttteat— deserves he deserves to depart the political stage for good. tut— the political stage for good. tut tt— the political stage for good. but it somewhat has known boris for but it somewhat has known boris ter eve— but it somewhat has known boris ter ze— but it somewhat has known boris for over 25 years— but it somewhat has known boris for over 25 years and a few encounters with— for over 25 years and a few encounters with him. i think he etttt— encounters with him. i think he still harbours— encounters with him. i think he still harbours those those churchillian— still harbours those those churchillian come back ambitions and churchillian come back ambitions ant t— churchillian come back ambitions ant t vveuttn-t— churchillian come back ambitions and i wouldn't totally rule it eut— and i wouldn't totally rule it eut. t— and i wouldn't totally rule it eut. t tntnt— and i wouldn't totally rule it out. i think it's— and i wouldn't totally rule it out. i think it's becoming tnereaetngty— out. i think it's becoming increasingly unlikely. but it tut— increasingly unlikely. but it tut tt— increasingly unlikely. but it but it could— increasingly unlikely. but it but it could happen . but the way but it could happen. but the way the but it could happen. but the way tne natt— but it could happen. but the way tne natt nave— but it could happen. but the way the mail have handled it has teen— the mail have handled it has teen very— the mail have handled it has been very clever.— the mail have handled it has been very clever. yeah, because guttttng— been very clever. yeah, because guttttng at— been very clever. yeah, because quitting at half— been very clever. yeah, because quitting at half an— been very clever. yeah, because quitting at half an hour's nettee— quitting at half an hour's nettee er— quitting at half an hour's notice or notifying the advisory , vett— notice or notifying the advisory , vett tt— notice or notifying the advisory , vett tt tt— notice or notifying the advisory , well it it creates— notice or notifying the advisory , well it it creates a huge pr rnernent— , well it it creates a huge pr moment, isn't— , well it it creates a huge pr moment, isn't it?— , well it it creates a huge pr moment, isn't it? >t
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is advisory.-ex—minister- is advisory. one ex—minister tett—tetng- is advisory. one ex—ministerl told—being being told me. it's like being being etattet— told me. it's like being being etattet en— told me. it's like being being etattet en tne— told me. it's like being being slapped on the little toe with a vet— slapped on the little toe with a vet tettuee— slapped on the little toe with a wet lettuce .okay, - slapped on the little toe with a wet lettuce cm53 slapped on the little toe with a. wet lettuce .okay,-we have wet lettuce. okay, well, we have to now. we talk to move on now. we can talk about all night, but we about boris all night, but we have thank you to my have to move on. thank you to my panel have to move on. thank you to my panel. coming up, we'll be covering everything from inclusion, diversity and equality coordinators at specialist to specialist firearms command to the of ice cream the freezing out of ice cream vans by a killjoy. london council. don't forget the terrible news coming in from from america . meghan markle's from america. meghan markle's podcast has just been axed after just one season. i'm in mourning . i'll see you after this short
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break welcome back . break welcome back. i'm martin daubney, in for the legendary laurence fox. well, figures for last year show british police forces spent a whopping 66 grand on rainbow themed merchandise, including flags, selfie frames ,
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including flags, selfie frames, whistles, key rings , shoelaces, whistles, key rings, shoelaces, pens and lip balm. the list goes on for pride, of course , lest we on for pride, of course, lest we forget the pride macarena too. as you can see here, absolute disgrace. well, this week, essex police even threw a pride in our kids event at their hq again on your tuppence resplendent with a drag queen, of course, which isn't at all creepy, is it ? all isn't at all creepy, is it? all the while only 6% of burglaries get solved in blighty. 30,000 muggings went unsolved last year alone. meanwhile, cops have recorded over 120,000 non crime hate incidents such as people getting offended over being misgendered or using the wrong pronouns. well that's good to see. they've got their priorities in order, isn't it? so tonight we wanted to ask, is it time we kick this pc pride nonsense out of the force? well
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if let's go to the panel. so what do you reckon? let's start with you, benjamin . i just get with you, benjamin. i just get sick of it every year. it almost feels like pride is compulsory . feels like pride is compulsory. now, if you're against it, you're you're an immediate homophobe. but isn't the issue is that at its heart, pride is a political movement. it is a political movement. it is a political movement- c {5 it is a political movement and a tetttteat— political movement and a political movement and a political movement has any place vvttntn— political movement has any place vttntn tne— political movement has any place within the police,— political movement has any place within the police, the police eneutt— within the police, the police should impartial. should should be impartial. they should be should be impartial. they should te eeen— should be impartial. they should be seen as being— should be impartial. they should be seen as being a— should be impartial. they should be seen as being a force which is be seen as being a force which te-gevern— be seen as being a force which te-gevern ant- be seen as being a force which is-govern and to- is there to govern and to treteet. — is there to govern and to treteet. tet— is there to govern and to protect. not going out and vtrtue— protect. not going out and virtue signalling about social rte— virtue signalling about social issues. it's not— virtue signalling about social issues. it's not their place. tneee— issues. it's not their place. those police _ issues. it's not their place. those police officers can do it in those police officers can do it tn tner— those police officers can do it in their private— those police officers can do it in their private time if they want— in their private time if they vant to — in their private time if they vant to tut— in their private time if they want to, but not- in their private time if they want to, but not in uniform . want to, but not in uniform. nanny,— want to, but not in uniform. nanny, t— want to, but not in uniform. frankly, i think— want to, but not in uniform. frankly, i think it's a disgrace ant— frankly, i think it's a disgrace and-massive- frankly, i think it's a disgrace and massive waste of and also a massive waste of taxpayer— and also a massive waste of taxpayer-taut.- and also a massive waste of. taxpayer- paul, surely taxpayer money. paul, surely this good inclusion and this is good for inclusion and diversity. i got a great diversity. i haven't got a great tretten — diversity. i haven't got a great tretten-tt.— diversity. i haven't got a great tretten-tt. t— diversity. i haven't got a great problem-it. i think- diversity. i haven't got a great problem-it. i think i- t: 3 i haven't got a great problem it. i think i think problem with it. i think i think it's problem with it. i think i think tt-e tetng— problem with it. i think i think it's being overdone. and that's tren—vvne-e- it's being overdone. and that's from -who's.thel from somebody who's on the ttterat— from somebody who's on the liberal—think- liberal left. but i think i tntnt— liberal left. but i think i think sometimes it actually teete— think sometimes it actually looks looks— think sometimes it actually looks looks a— think sometimes it actually looks looks a little ridiculous. tut— looks looks a little ridiculous. tut tne— looks looks a little ridiculous. but the principle— looks looks a little ridiculous. but the principle is fine. but if but the principle is fine. but tt yeu— but the principle is fine. but tt yeu everte— but the principle is fine. but if you overdo it,— but the principle is fine. but if you overdo it, it actually attenatee— if you overdo it, it actually alienates people. i think you've got alienates people. i think you've get te— alienates people. i think you've get te etrtte— alienates people. i think you've got to strike the _ alienates people. i think you've got to strike the right balance. sene— got to strike the right balance. sene tereee— got to strike the right balance. some forces do—
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got to strike the right balance. some forces do ,_ got to strike the right balance. some forces do , some forces some forces do, some forces ten-t.— some forces do, some forces ten-t. tut— some forces do, some forces don't. but it's— some forces do, some forces don't. but it's not- some forces do, some forces don't. but it's not a one size ttte— don't. but it's not a one size ttte att— don't. but it's not a one size fits all scenario— don't. but it's not a one size fits all scenario . - don't. but it's not a one size fits all scenario . ”ti: fits all scenario. but we we're talking earlier, benjamin, about the kind of cancer of identity politics. and it basically makes you take sides . it's like we you take sides. it's like we don't like pride. then you're an outright transphobe, outright you're a transphobe, you're i just don't you're no. one. no, ijust don't want in wigs dancing want blokes in in wigs dancing the ymca. i'd rather you just crank skills and make people were rubbing my . yeah, were rubbing my. yeah, absolutely. they've - jg yeah, absolutely. they've got a job were rubbing my. yeah,- absolutely. they've got a job to do. absolutely. they've got a job to te. tney— absolutely. they've got a job to do. they should— absolutely. they've got a job to do. they should be doing their tet— do. they should be doing their jet—tt— do. they should be doing their tet—tt atee- job. but i think it also undermines- job. but i think it also undermines when undermines their authority when you undermines their authority when yeu—ettteer- undermines their authority when yeu—ettteer tn- undermines their authority when you—officer in full. you see a police officer in full unttern— you see a police officer in full unttern-ant- you see a police officer in full uniform and blowing uniform twerking and blowing vvntettee— uniform twerking and blowing whistles-parade,- uniform twerking and blowing whistles parade, it doesn't whistles at a parade, it doesn't evaetty— whistles at a parade, it doesn't evaetty treteet— whistles at a parade, it doesn't exactly project image exactly project an image of etrengtn— exactly project an image of strength maturity. it looks strength and maturity. it looks a i strength and maturity. it looks a-t tuet— strength and maturity. it looks a-t tuet tntnt- strength and maturity. it looks a-t tuet tntnt .- a bit silly. i just think, nanny,— a bit silly. i just think, frankly, the- a bit silly. i just think, frankly, the police should focus on frankly, the police should focus en—at- frankly, the police should focus en—at tnel on their jobs because at the rnernent— on their jobs because at the moment—doing. on their jobs because at the. moment—doing their moment they're not doing their aetuat— moment they're not doing their aetuat tet. — moment they're not doing their actual job. they're just etenttng— actual job. they're just spending on all spending too much time on all tneee— spending too much time on all these sideshows_ spending too much time on all these sideshows . _ spending too much time on all these sideshows . jg these sideshows. but one thing you have to in mind is to a you have to bear in mind is to a degree, it's countering the damage done by the sort of scandals that louise casey report reveal . and also , you report reveal. and also, you know, someone was arguing the case earlier on for arming more policemen. well, let's not forget that both wayne cousins
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and david carrick were members , and david carrick were members, you know, of the armed police acas brigade , you know, so to acas brigade, you know, so to that extent , to that extent, that extent, to that extent, you've got to be very careful . you've got to be very careful. so i think trying to find that balance between, if you like, being a tolerant part of society and also being a efficient and competent police force is quite a tricky tightrope at the moment to walk. that's all public confidence isn't. but at an operation level though, yeah, i mean , if a if a police officer mean, if a if a police officer is favouring, say, i don't know , someone with xem pronouns or favouring, i mean, are they going to not taser a trans person if they're on a rampage ? person if they're on a rampage? i just think it kind of it gets it i just think it kind of it gets tt geee— i just think it kind of it gets it goes against— i just think it kind of it gets it goes against the notion of tettetng— it goes against the notion of policing without— it goes against the notion of policing without fear or favour, vvnten— policing without fear or favour, vnten ueet— policing without fear or favour, which used-be— policing without fear or favour, which used-be at- policing without fear or favour, which used be at the very which used to be at the very nean— which used to be at the very neart et— which used to be at the very neart et tne— which used to be at the very heart of the constabulary. and new-taken— heart of the constabulary. and now-taken sides- heart of the constabulary. and now taken sides mahyar now they've taken sides mahyar teuee— now they've taken sides mahyar teuee-tnere-e— now they've taken sides mahyar tousi,-there's now- now they've taken sides mahyar tousi, there's now the tousi, but also there's now the mea— tousi, but also there's now the ttea tnat— tousi, but also there's now the ttea tnat tt— tousi, but also there's now the idea that if-don't- tousi, but also there's now the idea that if don't go along idea that if you don't go along vvttn— idea that if you don't go along vvttn n,— idea that if you don't go along vvttn n, yeu— idea that if you don't go along with it, you don't— idea that if you don't go along with it, you don't join in, yeu-tt— with it, you don't join in, yeu-tt te— with it, you don't join in, you'll be sidelined within the teree — you'll be sidelined within the force. _coercion. force. so it's the coercion within, you know, you have force. so it's the coercion withinpolitical)w, you have force. so it's the coercion
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withinpolitical movements,i have force. so it's the coercion withinpolitical movements, it'sve these political movements, it's if part, you're if you don't take part, you're not club. okay, not part of the club. okay, we've got i think that's. martin where do you get the idea that, you if a trans if a you know, that if a trans if a trans person behaving in trans person were behaving in a publicly threatening way, that they tasered ? i they wouldn't be tasered? i don't see i don't see that would be don't see i don't see that would te tne— don't see i don't see that would te tne — don't see i don't see that would be the case. well,— don't see i don't see that would be the case. �*vvt�*ticc g: be the case. well, that's good for you. let's move on to the next that was feisty. if next debate. that was feisty. if like been enjoying like me, you've been enjoying the fans sort the hot weather, but fans sort of cool down with a mr. whippy. well, find well, you better not find yourself greenwich yourself anywhere near greenwich in south—east london the in south—east london because the local its mighty local council and its mighty wisdom has wisdom and killjoy spirit has proposed banning ice cream vans on king william walk by greenwich park and the royal observer tree. you know, the exact sort of place that you'd like to have an ice cream. the reasons being apparently the reasons are being apparently the ice cream vans cause unacceptable levels of nuisance. they clutter views of the local attractions and have a negative impact on air quality because they leave the motor running to power. the generator . well, i power. the generator. well, i know where i won't be going this summer. benjamin they're banning everything. yeah now they're
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banning ice cream vans during a heatwave. it's ridiculous. it's like cromwellian levels- like cromwellian levels of teetreytng— like cromwellian levels of destroying people's fun . you're destroying people's fun. you're not destroying people's fun. you're net attevet— destroying people's fun. you're not allowed to— destroying people's fun. you're not allowed to do— destroying people's fun. you're not allowed to do anything. you ntgnt— not allowed to do anything. you ntgnt entey. — not allowed to do anything. you ntgnt entey. reu— not allowed to do anything. you might enjoy. you have to sit at nene,— might enjoy. you have to sit at nene, teet— might enjoy. you have to sit at home, lock yourself in a dark ant— home, lock yourself in a dark ant try— home, lock yourself in a dark room and try not— home, lock yourself in a dark room and try not to breathe too nuan— room and try not to breathe too rnuen tn— room and try not to breathe too rnuen tn aee— room and try not to breathe too much in case you— room and try not to breathe too much in case you emit too much earten— much in case you emit too much earten-tuet— much in case you emit too much carbon. just absolutely carbon. they just are absolutely tentere— carbon. they just are absolutely bonkers, these— carbon. they just are absolutely bonkers, these-is- carbon. they just are absolutely bonkers, these people. is that the bonkers, these people. is that tne-taut?— bonkers, these people. is that the paul? breathing the answer? paul? stop breathing and ice cream. and don't have an ice cream. frankly greenwich council are proving the a not very cool and b that they're a bunch of flakes . i like that. i like a nice ice cream pun, too. and classic mega michael is the next one. so now sweet viewers, some really troubling news broke earlier today from the pond. in fact, palace . can we join hands and palace. can we join hands and pray right . palace. can we join hands and pray right. come by our my lord come by your. i can sense your pain is real so much because guess what? so much meghan markle's podcast archetypes has been axed afterjust one season owing to the fact that the duchess's production companies low output of content, which is probably down to systemic racism
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of something like that anyhow, the x series was claimed to explore labels that try to hold women back , an issue that women back, an issue that clearly never happened to the multi—millionaire princess. so panel , are multi—millionaire princess. so panel, are you a surprised and saddened as me that meghan's had the royal heave let's start with you, benjamin. let's be completely honest. i didn't even know completely honest. i didn't even tnevv ene— completely honest. i didn't even tnevv ene nat— completely honest. i didn't even know she had a— completely honest. i didn't even know she had a podcast.- i i didn't even know she had a podcast. but aetuatty— know she had a podcast. but aetuatty ene— know she had a podcast. but actually she didn't. she didn't eeate— actually she didn't. she didn't eeate any— actually she didn't. she didn't create any podcasts. that was tne— create any podcasts. that was tne-tney— create any podcasts. that was the-they signed- create any podcasts. that was the they signed her create any podcasts. that was. the-they signed her up. the problem. they signed her up. they— the problem. they signed her up. tney tatt— the problem. they signed her up. tney tart-reage— the problem. they signed her up. they paid-loads of- the problem. they signed her up. they paid loads of money. the problem. they signed her up. theylpaid loads of money. the problem. they signed her up. theyl think loads of money. the problem. they signed her up. theyl think shejads of money. the problem. they signed her up. theyl think she did; of money. the problem. they signed her up. theyl think she did about,ney. the problem. they signed her up. theyl think she did about, what, and i think she did about, what, two and i think she did about, what, tve etteetee— and i think she did about, what, two episodes-did. - and i think she did about, what, two episodes did. two episodes she did. i think ete— two episodes she did. i think the utt— two episodes she did. i think she did series, which she did one series, which i think 3 or 4, 3 or think was about 3 or 4, 3 or 4 episodes. i mean, what was she tatt— episodes. i mean, what was she tart—te— episodes. i mean, what was she tart—te tntee- episodes. i mean, what was she paid—do this? it- episodes. i mean, what was she paid—do this? it wasi paid millions to do this? it was it paid millions to do this? it was tt-a— paid millions to do this? it was tt-a etuttt— paid millions to do this? it was tt-a etuttt-te- it was a stupid idea to commission- it was a stupid idea to commission this in first commission this in the first ttaee— commission this in the first ttaee. tut— commission this in the first place. but when _ commission this in the first place. but when she actually got the commission,— place. but when she actually got the commission, she should have place. but when she actually got the cttheiission, she should have place. but when she actually got the ctthe work. i, she should have place. but when she actually got the ctthe work. i she should have place. but when she actually got the ctthe work. i mean,ould have place. but when she actually got the ctthe work. i mean, itld have place. but when she actually got the ctthe work. i mean, it justave place. but when she actually got the ctoe work. i mean, it justave place. but when she actually got the ctoe wothownean, it just ave place. but when she actually got the ctoe wothownean, it jshe ve place. but when she actually got the t jtit e wothownean, it jshe ve place. but when she actually got the r jit ithownean, it jshe ve place. but when she actually got the t jtit nean, it jshe ve place. but when she actually got the t jtit j
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held back as a woman of colour. she hasn't been back a she hasn't been held back as a woman all. a princess, woman at all. she's a princess, which is the opposite of feminism. she still bangs on about people just about everything and people just don't listen that don't want to listen to that sort trite hit. i've been sort of trite hit. i've been etutytng— sort of trite hit. i've been etutytng tne— sort of trite hit. i've been studying the sort- sort of trite hit. i've been studying the sort of- c” j c i've been studying the sort of the anertean— studying the sort of the american entertainment magazine and american entertainment magazine antvvetettee— american entertainment magazine and websites today, and it's a ntnee— and websites today, and it's a mixed zahawi _ and websites today, and it's a mixed zahawi this because you eeutt— mixed zahawi this because you eeutt yeu— mixed zahawi this because you could you could— mixed zahawi this because you could you could have a cheap pun you could you could have a cheap pun yeu eeutt— could you could have a cheap pun yeu eeutt eay— could you could have a cheap pun you could say that— could you could have a cheap pun you could say that archwell ten-t— you could say that archwell ten-t tetng— you could say that archwell isn't doing very— you could say that archwell isn't doing very well but but tut— isn't doing very well but but tut et— isn't doing very well but but but of course— isn't doing very well but but but of course the whole company tnere— but of course the whole company tnere tn— but of course the whole company tnere tn taet— but of course the whole company there in fact is— but of course the whole company there in fact is doing badly. tney-re— there in fact is doing badly. they're about— there in fact is doing badly. they're about you know, they're tney-re— they're about you know, they're tney-re ateut— they're about you know, they're they're about to _ they're about you know, they're they're about to lay off about tne— they're about to lay off about tve zoo— they're about to lay off about two 200 employees and some regene— two 200 employees and some reterte are— two 200 employees and some reports are suggesting that ene-e— reports are suggesting that she's already— reports are suggesting that she's already in negotiation vvttn— she's already in negotiation with another— she's already in negotiation with another outlet . so yeah, so with another outlet. so yeah, so attneugn— with another outlet. so yeah, so attneugn tte— with another outlet. so yeah, so although it's quite— with another outlet. so yeah, so although it's quite the statement— although it's quite the statement says it was a joint teeteten— statement says it was a joint decision, who _ statement says it was a joint decision, who knows ? but but i decision, who knows? but but i eueteet— decision, who knows? but but i eueteet tnat— decision, who knows? but but i suspect that she— decision, who knows? but but i suspect that she has other plans vnetner— suspect that she has other plans now, whether whether she teeervee— now, whether whether she deserves the _ now, whether whether she deserves the accolades she's teen— deserves the accolades she's teen gtven— deserves the accolades she's been given recently, which i
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tntnt— been given recently, which i tntnt te— been given recently, which i think is all— been given recently, which i think is all about pr spin for various sponsors— think is all about pr spin for various sponsors . so i'm not i'm various sponsors. so i'm not i'm net— various sponsors. so i'm not i'm net tne— various sponsors. so i'm not i'm net tne ttggeet— various sponsors. so i'm not i'm not the biggest critic of meghan matte— not the biggest critic of meghan ttartte, tut— not the biggest critic of meghan markle, but i'm— not the biggest critic of meghan markle, but i'm also not a cheerleader— markle, but i'm also not a cheerleader either because tnere-e— cheerleader either because tnere-e a— cheerleader either because there's a lot— cheerleader either because there's a lot of— cheerleader either because there's a lot of hypocrisy tnvetvet. — there's a lot of hypocrisy involved. j there's a lot of hypocrisy- involved. benjamin let's move on to you. so, i mean, is this just inevitable? is this actually faith in humanity restored ? and faith in humanity restored? and is has meghan's presence been toxic to the whole platform? spotify is his is she the embodiment of go woke go broke? i think one of the biggest enemies of— i think one of the biggest enemies of the- i think one of the biggest enemies of the woke movement is the enemies of the woke movement is tne nartet. — enemies of the woke movement is the market. that's— enemies of the woke movement is the market. that's why they're all the market. that's why they're att—teeauee- the market. that's why they're all—because as. the market. that's why they're . all—because as soon the market. that's why they're allthey because as soon the market. that's why they're allthey have because as soon the market. that's why they're allthey have theirzcause as soon the market. that's why they're allthey have their organisationsi as they have their organisations ant— as they have their organisations ant tner— as they have their organisations and their plans— as they have their organisations and their plans and the things tnat— and their plans and the things tnat tney— and their plans and the things tnat tney te— and their plans and the things that they do and— and their plans and the things that they do and no one buys it ttte— that they do and no one buys it ttte tat— that they do and no one buys it ttte tat ttgnt— that they do and no one buys it like bad light-saw- that they do and no one buys it like bad light saw got like bad light we saw got ateetutety— like bad light we saw got| absolutely—by like bad light we saw got- absolutely_by the absolutely demolished by the teyeett— absolutely demolished by the teyeett unen— absolutely demolished by the boycott when they attempted a etnttar— boycott when they attempted a etnttar tttng— boycott when they attempted a similar thing. know, the similar thing. you know, the tretten — similar thing. you know, the tretten te— similar thing. you know, the problem is when people can vote vttn— problem is when people can vote vvttn tnetr— problem is when people can vote with their wallets— problem is when people can vote with their wallets ,_ problem is when people can vote with their wallets , they don't with their wallets, they don't vete — with their wallets, they don't vete ltne — with their wallets, they don't vote .the woke _ with their wallets, they don't vote the woke stuff. you vote for the woke stuff. you every—tney- vote for the woke stuff. you every—tney ge,| vote for the woke stuff. you - every _tbey got they every single time they go, they go every single time they go, they 90-i— every single time they go, they ge-t tttnt— every single time they go, they ge-t tttnt tte- every single time they go, they go-i think it's superb.l every single time they go, theyi go-i think it's superb. do go bust. i think it's superb. do you think then we're seeing a great do think great realignment? do you think this meghan's this do you think meghan's departure signifies departure actually signifies a great of hope rather than great moment of hope rather than
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a moment salvation? well, a moment of salvation? well, i think about to a moment of salvation? well, i think-about to revive- a moment of salvation? well, i think-about to revive her.. think it's about to revive her. aetuatty— think it's about to revive her. actually. successful before she net— actually. successful before she even met prince— actually. successful before she even met prince website in even met prince harry website in a ttt— even met prince harry website in a ttt te— even met prince harry website in a bid to challenge— even met prince harry website in a bid to challenge gwyneth rattrevv— a bid to challenge gwyneth rattrev .— a bid to challenge gwyneth paltrow . we'll— a bid to challenge gwyneth paltrow . we'll see how that paltrow. we'll see how that geee— paltrow. we'll see how that geee. okay— paltrow. we'll see how that goes. okay superb. j5
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provided by the met office. whilst high pressure has been with us throughout the past few days, low pressure that is days, it's low pressure that is increasingly becoming in charge. as the weekend. as we head into the weekend. it's currently out the it's currently out in the atlantic. steadily atlantic. it's steadily progressing in from the and progressing in from the west and we'll staying with us we'll be staying with us throughout weekend into throughout the weekend and into next well. it's already next week as well. it's already fringing into parts of the west and bringing these showers and bringing in these showers that to their that will start to feed their way throughout of way in throughout the rest of this and overnight could this evening and overnight could see there, see some heavy rain in there, particularly see some heavy rain in there, particulthrough the early hours ireland through the early hours of saturday morning . quite of saturday morning. quite persistent generally persistent rain generally further east, though, it will stay and clearer . and stay drier and clearer. and underneath clearer skies, underneath those clearer skies, temperatures dropping into temperatures dropping down into ten, 11 c. so a bit more comfortable for sleeping here. but further towards the west, around 15, 16 c. so still quite muqqy around 15, 16 c. so still quite muggy out there. first thing on saturday, those showers then continuing to push their way north and westwards. so a sprinkling perhaps for parts of northwest western northwest england, western scotland. and see the scotland. and we might see the odd across southern odd one push across southern areas england as well. areas of england as well. generally tending generally eastern areas tending to stay drier. and again , we'll to stay drier. and again, we'll see a bit of wispy cloud push
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its way and that its way through. and with that cloud temperatures perhaps a little compared recent little lower compared to recent days, but still feeling very warm. of 24, 25 c into warm. highs of 24, 25 c into saturday night. again, continuing to see those showers , particularly across western areas. so western scotland, northwest england, parts of northern ireland still seeing a few through as we few flittering through as we head the daytime, though, head into the daytime, though, those showers will be turning more widespread and there is a thunderstorm warning in force for of england and wales for parts of england and wales throughout the these throughout the day. these thunderstorms are going to be hit miss, though not hit and miss, though not everywhere to one, everywhere is going to see one, but where you do see them, they are going to be potential really bringing heavy downpours of rain, even some rain, hail and even some lightning well. this area of lightning as well. this area of low pressure is staying with us. then head into monday and then as we head into monday and tuesday thunderstorms tuesday, further thunderstorms and are likely and heavy showers are likely throughout days as well. throughout those days as well. so keep up to date with the so do keep up to date with the forecast because is quite forecast because it is quite a showery picture cards. showery picture on the cards. enjoy your evening . enjoy the rest of your evening. bye bye .
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