welcome on board and company. welcome on board and leading the this on leading the news this morning on this wednesday , the of this wednesday, the duke of sussex return to the high sussex will return to the high court today after blaming the tabloid for inciting tabloid press for inciting hatred. prince harry says he suffered— hatred. prince harry says he suffered paranoia _ : prince harry says he suffered paranoia due to alleged press— suffered paranoia due to alleged press intrusion,— suffered paranoia due to alleged press intrusion, losing friendships— press intrusion, losing friendships which impacted his teenage— friendships which impacted his teenage years— friendships which impacted his teenage yeere . — friendships which impacted his teenage years . org" friendships which impacted his teenage years . qc” ”d dod teenage years. over 40,000 people are being evacuated in ukraine after a dam collapse. president zelenskyy has said 80 towns and villages may be affected . the prime minister affected. the prime minister says it would mark a new low in the conflict if russia is found to be responsible . meanwhile, to be responsible. meanwhile, riem— to be responsible. meanwhile, we seek— to be responsible. meanwhile, rishi sunak has— meanwhile, rishi sunak has arrived in washington,— rishi sunak has arrived in washington, dc as he prepares to meet— washington, dc as he prepares to meet wttt— washington, dc as he prepares to meet wttt us— washington, dc as he prepares to meet with us president joe tttett— meet with us president joe etten. the— meet with us president joe biden. the pm— meet with us president joe biden. the pm will push for more tegttttten— biden. the pm will push for more tegtttttett en— biden. the pm will push for more regulation on artificial intelligence- regulation on artificial intelligence and for greater tuetneee— intelligence and for greater business links— intelligence and for greater business links with the united states— business links with the united states ent— business links with the united states and t— business links with the united states and a new— business links with the united states and a new wet loss drug ttmet— states and a new wet loss drug ttmet et— states and a new wet loss drug aimed at tackling— states and a new wet loss drug aimed at tackling growing eteetty— aimed at tackling growing eteetty tee— aimed at tackling growing obesity has been announced . obesity has been announced. tt-e— obesity has been announced. it's described— obesity has been announced. it's described as— obesity has been announced. it's described as a— obesity has been announced. it's described as a game- obesity has been announced. it's described as a game changer andifs it's described as a game changer and it's hoped it will cut nhs waiting times and ease the country's health crisis . and

country's health crisis. and hopes are high for- country's health crisis. and hopes are high for a- and hopes are high for a mini tetttttte— hopes are high for a mini heatwave this— hopes are high for a mini heatwave this week. ' tig heatwave this week. after very etmtttt— heatwave this week. after very similar weather patterns during the last few weeks, the weather is finally changing later this week. high humidity, high temperatures for many, but also the risk of thunderstorms by the weekend . and find out more in weekend. and find out more in the full forecast . with me . the full forecast. with me. prince harry is our top story today. and i'm sure will be for a today. and i'm sure will be for etew— today. and i'm sure will be for etew tate— today. and i'm sure will be for etew date to— today. and i'm sure will be for a few days to come.— : and i'm sure will be for a few days to come. second day for a few days to come. second day tot ttm — a few days to come. second day tot ttm tn— a few days to come. second day for him in the— a few days to come. second day for him in the high— a few days to come. second day for him in the high court during day one— for him in the high court during day one yesterday,— for him in the high court during day one yesterday, the duke said he experienced— day one yesterday, the duke said he experienced hostility from the trees— he experienced hostility from the press from _ he experienced hostility from the press from the day that he was born. well,— the press from the day that he was born. �*ftt�*ticc the press from the day that he was born. g was born. well, harry's accusing mirror group newspapers of hacking his voicemail when he was a teenager. and he said he believed stories written in their publications caused security concerns for him and

damaged his relationships. he also admitted under oath- i he also admitted under oath that his also admitted under oath that tte memett— also admitted under oath that his memoir spare or contradicted a his memoir spare or contradicted t etttm — his memoir spare or contradicted t etttm tn— his memoir spare or contradicted tetttn tn nte— his memoir spare or contradicted a claim in his witness statement . wett— a claim in his witness statement . wett. tet-e— a claim in his witness statement . well, let's speak— a claim in his witness statement . well, let's speak to- a claim in his witness statement . well, let's speak to royal and showbiz reporter kinsey schofield. good morning to you, kinsey. and of course, that admission was all in relation to his mother, diana. and what was said about paul burrell, who was described at the time as her rock , what was said in court. rock, what was said in court. well, i'm sure it was very interesting what was said in court . well, you know, what we court. well, you know, what we can do perhaps, is play a clip from paul burrell, who appeared on dan wootton last night responding to those comments by prince harry. paul burrell was, in case you don't remember , he in case you don't remember, he was the butler to diana and he will say things like that. he knew the boys. he was ii ct? c he knew the boys. he was almost ute— knew the boys. he was almost ttte t— knew the boys. he was almost like a second— knew the boys. he was almost like a second or— knew the boys. he was almost like a second or third or fourth tttnet— like a second or third or fourth tttnet te— like a second or third or fourth father to them— like a second or third or fourth father to them . _ like a second or third or fourth father to them . �*ftt�*ticc like a second or third or fourth father to them . �*ftt�*tiii 37�*” titi father to them. well, prince harry said that he was to faced and that that had got into the

papers through illegal means and essentially. paul burrell came out saying last night that what was being said in court was defamatory. let's take a listen. he complained in spare that he nut— he complained in spare that he net on— he complained in spare that he was put on camilla's pr alter ent— was put on camilla's pr alter and sacrificed— was put on camilla's pr alter and sacrificed while harry, ten-e— and sacrificed while harry, yen-re tetng— and sacrificed while harry, you're doing the same to me . you're doing the same to me. wntt— you're doing the same to me. that ten-te— you're doing the same to me. what you're doing to me is unforgivable_ what you're doing to me is unforgivable ._ what you're doing to me is unforgivable . well, you know the unforgivable. well, you know the tutt— unforgivable. well, you know the ttttn .— unforgivable. well, you know the ttttn . vet— unforgivable. well, you know the truth . you know— unforgivable. well, you know the truth . you know what i feel and truth. you know what i feel and tntnt— truth. you know what i feel and tntnt t— truth. you know what i feel and tntnt t tn— truth. you know what i feel and think i am not— truth. you know what i feel and think i am not a— truth. you know what i feel and think i am not a two faced i. tn— think i am not a two faced i. t-n net— think i am not a two faced i. t-n net tntt— think i am not a two faced i. i'm not that person . don't say i'm not that person. don't say tneee— i'm not that person. don't say tneee tntnge— i'm not that person. don't say these things in— i'm not that person. don't say these things in public. i've met— these things in public. i've tnet zo— these things in public. i've tried 20 years— these things in public. i've tried 20 years to get away from nntt— tried 20 years to get away from that nnnnenet— tried 20 years to get away from what happened to— tried 20 years to get away from what happened to me a long time ago what happened to me a long time tee .— what happened to me a long time tee . se— what happened to me a long time ago . so ntneet— what happened to me a long time ago . so kinsey cracks appearing ago. so kinsey cracks appearing in ago. so kinsey cracks appearing tn tnnee— ago. so kinsey cracks appearing in prince harry's— ago. so kinsey cracks appearing in prince harry's case. ’“ti“ in prince harry's case. then. tettet— in prince harry's case. then. tettet. tnte— in prince harry's case. then. isabel, this is— in prince harry's case. then. isabel, this is not— in prince harry's case. “ti“ isabel, this is not the only tnetne — isabel, this is not the only instance. he— isabel, this is not the only instance. he also talks about new— instance. he also talks about new tne— instance. he also talks about new tne nteee— instance. he also talks about how the press are— instance. he also talks about how the press are to blame for his how the press are to blame for nte break-up— how the press are to blame for his break—up with chelsea antes.— his break—up with chelsea nettee. ten.— his break—up with chelsea davies. now, if— his break—up with chelsea davies. now, if you read spare, vou— davies. now, if you read spare, you see— davies. now, if you read spare, yen tntt— davies. now, if you read spare, you see that he— davies. now, if you read spare, you see that he actually blames the you see that he actually blames tne oteen — you see that he actually blames tne oteen te— you see that he actually blames

the queen. he says— you see that he actually blames the queen. he says the queen teen-t— the queen. he says the queen ween-t tttte— the queen. he says the queen wasn't quite sure— the queen. he says the queen wasn't quite sure about chelsea . tnt— wasn't quite sure about chelsea . tnt tntt-e— wasn't quite sure about chelsea , and that's ultimately why they note— , and that's ultimately why they ttete up— , and that's ultimately why they ttete tn .— , and that's ultimately why they ttete tn . te— , and that's ultimately why they broke up . he also— , and that's ultimately why they broke up . he also talks about broke up. he also talks about a ten— broke up. he also talks about a eett tntne— broke up. he also talks about a cell phone and— broke up. he also talks about a cell phone and his— broke up. he also talks about a cell phone and his cell phone petenttettt— cell phone and his cell phone potentially being— cell phone and his cell phone potentially being hacked. but he tttn-t— potentially being hacked. but he tttn-t get— potentially being hacked. but he tttn-t get t— potentially being hacked. but he didn't get a cell— potentially being hacked. but he didn't get a cell phone until he tntvet— didn't get a cell phone until he tnttet tt— didn't get a cell phone until he arrived at eton— didn't get a cell phone until he arrived at eton ._ didn't get a cell phone until he arrived at eton . so there are arrived at eton. so there are a lot arrived at eton. so there are a tet et— arrived at eton. so there are a lot of stories— arrived at eton. so there are a lot of stories that— arrived at eton. so there are a lot of stories that aren't necessarily— lot of stories that aren't necessarily ,_ lot of stories that aren't necessarily , you know, copacetic necessarily, you know, copacetic tnen— necessarily, you know, copacetic tnen tt— necessarily, you know, copacetic tnen tt tonnes— necessarily, you know, copacetic when it comes to— necessarily, you know, copacetic when it comes to his charges tgttnet— when it comes to his charges tgttnet tne— when it comes to his charges against the mirror. and, of course, you know, the burden of treet— course, you know, the burden of not te— course, you know, the burden of not te en— course, you know, the burden of proof is on prince— course, you know, the burden of proof is on prince harry. ti proof is on prince harry. he is tne— proof is on prince harry. he is the ne— proof is on prince harry. he is the tnt— proof is on prince harry. he is the one who has— proof is on prince harry. he is the one who has to _ proof is on prince harry. he is the one who has to provide the evidence and it certainly seemed, at least from the mirror group's attorney yesterday , that group's attorney yesterday, that case by case article by article, they were trying to prove that actually he didn't have that evidence that many of these stories had been reported in other newspapers and that perhaps the prince was quite confused in his memories. and i think that people are— confused in his memories. and i think that people are now- think that people are now nttentng— think that people are now nttentng te— think that people are now watching to see if prince tent-e.— watching to see if prince tent-e. yet— watching to see if prince harry's, you know, barrister nonettttt— harry's, you know, barrister negetttty nee— harry's, you know, barrister

hopefully has something up his eeevet— hopefully has something up his eeevet ttgtt— hopefully has something up his sleeve. right. hopefully he's got tntn— sleeve. right. hopefully he's get tnte tent— sleeve. right. hopefully he's got this perry mason moment tnete— got this perry mason moment tnete ne— got this perry mason moment tnete ne nee— got this perry mason moment where he has this evidence teettee— where he has this evidence because harry— where he has this evidence because harry quite simply can't remember or doesn't know, etggeete— remember or doesn't know, etggeete yet— remember or doesn't know, suggests you ask someone else tnt— suggests you ask someone else and ne— suggests you ask someone else and ne ttet— suggests you ask someone else and he just does— suggests you ask someone else and he just does not have the etteneet — and he just does not have the evidence. the— and he just does not have the evidence. the evidence is not ttete— evidence. the evidence is not tnete. se— evidence. the evidence is not there. so hopefully his representatives do have eenetntng— representatives do have something coming , because something coming, because etnetntee— something coming, because otherwise this— something coming, because otherwise this does appear to be a pretty— otherwise this does appear to be a pretty nett— otherwise this does appear to be a pretty weak case. ti a pretty weak case. so kenzie, toes— a pretty weak case. so kenzie, toes tt— a pretty weak case. so kenzie, does it change your mind against harry or not.7 you are somewhat sceptical about his his memory and his his marriage and whatever. but he said there in court yesterday that that the press hated him from the day that he was born. and has he a point .7 amen you know and isabel point? amen you know and isabel .ne tetet— point? amen you know and isabel , we loved prince— point? amen you know and isabel , we loved prince harry.- “7 ' i“ you know and isabel , we loved prince harry. do you not— , we loved prince harry. do you not remember?— , we loved prince harry. do you not remember? he— , we loved prince harry. do you not remember? he was the ntnteene— not remember? he was the handsome he— not remember? he was the handsome he was the rebel tnnee. — handsome he was the rebel gttnee. te— handsome he was the rebel prince. he was— handsome he was the rebel prince. he was the hunky prince. he prince. he was the hunky prince. te tee—

prince. he was the hunky prince. te tne— prince. he was the hunky prince. te tne ne— prince. he was the hunky prince. he was the he was— prince. he was the hunky prince. he was the he was the dream. he tne— he was the he was the dream. he was the available _ he was the he was the dream. he was the available prince for a tntte— was the available prince for a tntte tnen— was the available prince for a while when we— was the available prince for a while when we lost prince tntne— while when we lost prince william, we— while when we lost prince william, we loved prince harry. we tetet— william, we loved prince harry. we tetet nte— william, we loved prince harry. we loved his cheekiness. tenentet— we loved his cheekiness. remember that video of him ettettng— remember that video of him ettettng nte— remember that video of him sticking his tongue out at photographer— sticking his tongue out at photographer shares with tnneeee— photographer shares with princess diana giggling in the teetgntnte— princess diana giggling in the background? absolutely adored background? we absolutely adored tttnee— background? we absolutely adored tttnee tent— background? we absolutely adored prince harry from _ background? we absolutely adored prince harry from the time he tern. ee— prince harry from the time he was born. so what a what a tntne— was born. so what a what a bizarre statement to make . bizarre statement to make. vent.— bizarre statement to make. vett- ant— bizarre statement to make. vett- ant t— bizarre statement to make. yeah. and i suppose- bizarre statement to make. yeah. and i suppose the other bits that raised eyebrows yesterday, one was making a political comment, which, of course, he's not a working member the royal family, but member of the royal family, but it's shocking to it's still quite shocking to hear thought the hear that he thought that the british was rock british government was at rock bottom and also a few comments to make about piers morgan saying he made him feel saying that he made him feel sick when sick to his stomach when he thought him possibly thought about him possibly listening mother. listening in on his mother. well, you know what i say well, you know what i would say ttett— well, you know what i would say ttett tent-e— well, you know what i would say about harry's opinion or endorsements- about harry's opinion or endorsements are that he etggeetet— endorsements are that he suggested that the americans nttentng— suggested that the americans tttentng nte— suggested that the americans watching his time magazine eneettt— watching his time magazine epeetet vete— watching his time magazine special vote for— watching his time magazine special vote for joe biden and special vote forjoe biden and get— special vote forjoe biden and now we've got a— special vote forjoe biden and now we've got a president in the wntte— now we've got a president in the we tetee— now we've got a president in the white house that— now we've got a president in the white house that can barely tie his white house that can barely tie nte enn— white house that can barely tie his own shoes.— white house that can barely tie his own shoes. so— white house that can barely tie his own shoes. so when it comes to tent-e— his own shoes. so when it comes to harry's endorsement, i really

ten-t— to harry's endorsement, i really tent-tent— to harry's endorsement, i really tent-tent tt— to harry's endorsement, i really don't-want it. and- to harry's endorsement, i really don't want it. and i'm don't think i want it. and i'm not— don't think i want it. and i'm not ttetentng— don't think i want it. and i'm not listening. but— don't think i want it. and i'm not listening. but but it is you cannot— not listening. but but it is you cannot nett— not listening. but but it is you cannot help but— not listening. but but it is you cannot help but think it's been a cannot help but think it's been t nenttte— cannot help but think it's been a horrible experience for him. i nettt— a horrible experience for him. i nettt never— a horrible experience for him. i would never want— a horrible experience for him. i would never want to feel this ttte— would never want to feel this ttte .— would never want to feel this ttte . need.— would never want to feel this vile , hated, but— would never want to feel this vile , hated, but i— would never want to feel this vile , hated, but i also vile, hated, but i also etnpetntee- vile, hated, but i also sympathise with chelsea recently had sympathise with chelsea recently ntt t— sympathise with chelsea recently net t tatt— sympathise with chelsea recently net t tttt ott— sympathise with chelsea recently had a baby. did she did he have her permission— had a baby. did she did he have her permission to— had a baby. did she did he have her permission to bring all of tnte— her permission to bring all of tnte etttt— her permission to bring all of this stuff up?— her permission to bring all of this stuff up? because is she tetng— this stuff up? because is she being hounded— this stuff up? because is she being hounded and haunted yet tgttn— being hounded and haunted yet tgttn tt— being hounded and haunted yet tgttn by ntn— being hounded and haunted yet again by him rehashing her youth and egentng— again by him rehashing her youth and egentng tt— again by him rehashing her youth and opening up these old wounds? they— and opening up these old wounds? tney tnet-te— and opening up these old wounds? they they've maintained a tnententt— they they've maintained a friendship over— they they've maintained a friendship over the years, neven-t— friendship over the years, haven't they? - friendship over the years, haven't they? ” haven't they? she was at their wedding . i hope that she was wedding. i hope that she was george clooney. isabel. so was george— george clooney. isabel. so was george cteenet — george clooney. isabel. so was george clooney. and- i”tidti "cat isabel. so was george clooney. and he'd never met— george clooney. and he'd never met tnen— george clooney. and he'd never met them before— george clooney. and he'd never met them before . _ george clooney. and he'd never met them before . stitg met them before. true story. ven— met them before. true story. very good point. very met them before. stitg «cl: d very good very good point. very good tent.— very good point. very good getnt. tntt— very good point. very good point. that was— very good point. very good point. that was a- «cl: d very good point. that was a good point and a point. that was a good point and t geot— point. that was a good point and tgeet gent.— point. that was a good point and a good point. piers— point. that was a good point and a good point. piers morgan made teetetttt— a good point. piers morgan made teetetttt. «meet.— a good point. piers morgan made yesterday. kinsey, i— a good point. piers morgan made yesterday. kinsey, i don't know if yesterday. kinsey, i don't know tt tot-te— yesterday. kinsey, i don't know tt yet-te eeen— yesterday. kinsey, i don't know if you've seen the— yesterday. kinsey, i don't know if you've seen the clip or not. wnen— if you've seen the clip or not. wnen ne— if you've seen the clip or not. wnen ne wee— if you've seen the clip or not. when he was doorstepped about when he was doorstepped at about all when he was doorstepped at about ttt—ne— when he was doorstepped at about ttt—ne ettt— when he was doorstepped at about ttt—ne ettt ne- all of this. and he said he nttn-t— all of this. and he said he hadn't seen— all of this. and he said he hadn't seen prince harry's teettnenw— hadn't seen prince harry's testimony or— hadn't seen prince harry's testimony or heard it, but he teete— testimony or heard it, but he looks forward— testimony or heard it, but he looks forward to— testimony or heard it, but he looks forward to reading about it. looks forward to reading about t. tttnee— looks forward to reading about it. prince harry's—

looks forward to reading about it. prince harry's war against tne— it. prince harry's war against tne nteee— it. prince harry's war against tne nteee .— it. prince harry's war against the press , protecting his the press, protecting his gnweew— the press, protecting his gnwtew tn— the press, protecting his privacy in his- the press, protecting his privacy in his next book, which i privacy in his next book, which t tnetgnt— privacy in his next book, which ttnetgnt we— privacy in his next book, which i thought was very clever. good, vett— i thought was very clever. good, very geot— i thought was very clever. good, very good .— i thought was very clever. good, very geet . tnent— i thought was very clever. good, very good . thank you, kinsey. very good. thank you, kinsey. tewetw— very good. thank you, kinsey. tewetw te— very good. thank you, kinsey. tewetw te eee— very good. thank you, kinsey. lovely to see you. _ very good. thank you, kinsey. lovely to see you. see more of you— lovely to see you. see more of you soon. thank— lovely to see you. see more of you soon. thank you very much, tnteet. — you soon. thank you very much, tnteet. etoe. — you soon. thank you very much, indeed. 6:08. and— you soon. thank you very much, indeed. 6:08. '“t: indeed. 6:08. and just a reminder, we will continue with our full coverage of prince harry's time in the high court. that's right here live on gb news. all week now , rishi sunak news. all week now, rishi sunak says yesterday's attack on a dam in southern ukraine would be a new low if it was to turn out to be the work of russians. the collapse of the dam has triggered floods and threatened drinking water supplies. with over 40,000 residents being evacuated. let's over 40,000 residents being evacuated . let's get more on evacuated. let's get more on we— evacuated. let's get more on we nw— evacuated. let's get more on this now from _ evacuated. let's get more on this now from mirka- i: let's get more on this now from mirka barbu , who this now from mirka barbu, who tett— this now from mirka barbu, who tett te— this now from mirka barbu, who can tell us the— this now from mirka barbu, who can tell us the effects of all of can tell us the effects of all et tnte. — can tell us the effects of all of this. much _ can tell us the effects of all of this. much of— can tell us the effects of all of this. much of this at beggars tettet— of this. much of this at beggars tettet. ee— of this. much of this at beggars belief. so much— of this. much of this at beggars belief. so much of— of this. much of this at beggars belief. so much of this such devastation _ belief. so much of this such devastation ._ belief. so much of this such devastation . and we're not even devastation. and we're not even eteee— devastation. and we're not even eteee te— devastation. and we're not even close to knowing— devastation. and we're not even close to knowing how many tetettttee— close to knowing how many fatalities there _ close to knowing how many fatalities there would have been as fatalities there would have been ee e teettt— fatalities there would have been ee e teettt et— fatalities there would have been as a result of this— fatalities there would have been as a result of this . i: as a result of this. good netntng. — as a result of this. good morning. indeed, we do not know

the number of civilians affected by this flood, but what we do know so far is that both under russian control inside of ukraine, also on the ukrainian army control side , hundreds of army control side, hundreds of people have been affected and dozens of at least 100 people throughout the night were coming from the russian controlled side to the ukrainian side. we've been also getting reports of people not being allowed to leave the russian control side and crossed the river unto the ukrainian side unless they have russian citizenship, russian passport and that's an obviously an unconfirmed information. but there are still several reports from human rights ngos in the area reporting this , saying that area reporting this, saying that people are not being allowed to evacuate from one side to another. so just explain that to me then. is that the suggestion tnen— me then. is that the suggestion tnen tnet— me then. is that the suggestion then that perhaps— “ti“ is that the suggestion then that perhaps some ukrainians— then that perhaps some ukrainians are being sent into tteete— ukrainians are being sent into russia, which— ukrainians are being sent into russia, which is— ukrainians are being sent into russia, which is what's similar to neggenet— russia, which is what's similar to happened around mariupol and

of to happened around mariupol and et tne — to happened around mariupol and of course, the international cnntnet— of course, the international criminal particularly criminal court, particularly tteet— criminal court, particularly tteet etett— criminal court, particularly upset about that in relation to war crimes and— upset about that in relation to war crimes and the disappearance of war crimes and the disappearance et entttten— war crimes and the disappearance et entttten .— war crimes and the disappearance et entttten . te— war crimes and the disappearance of children . is that— war crimes and the disappearance of children . is that what you're of children. is that what you're eewtng— of children. is that what you're eewtng 7— of children. is that what you're eewtng e teeettw— of children. is that what you're saying ? exactly _ of children. is that what you're saying ? exactly '. saying? exactly at the moment, russians are trying to evict the ukrainian citizens, ukrainian nationals to russia to actually control . what oh, dear. we're control. what oh, dear. we're having some problems with the line there. but truly shocking to teet— line there. but truly shocking to teen wet.— line there. but truly shocking to hear that. and— line there. but truly shocking to hear that. and we- i ”ti but truly shocking to hear that. and we know that tnete-e— to hear that. and we know that tnete-e teen— to hear that. and we know that there's been this— to hear that. and we know that there's been this ongoing netten — there's been this ongoing ptetten et— there's been this ongoing problem of trying to reunite, tetntte— problem of trying to reunite, reunite families— problem of trying to reunite, reunite families in ukraine when the reunite families in ukraine when tne tteetene— reunite families in ukraine when the russians effectively stole ntge— the russians effectively stole ntge ntnnetet— the russians effectively stole huge numbers of them and then just huge numbers of them and then ttet e— huge numbers of them and then ttet e nentttt— huge numbers of them and then just a handful have been tetttnet— just a handful have been returned-that- just a handful have been returned. that is returned. and if that is happening— returned. and if that is happening again, truly happening again, that is truly ttegte— happening again, that is truly tragic.-behind- happening again, that is truly tragic. behind and the tragic. whoever's behind and the ten — tragic. whoever's behind and the ten ent— tragic. whoever's behind and the ten ent wet— tragic. whoever's behind and the dam and you know— tragic. whoever's behind and the dam and you know that that is a war crime as such.— dam and you know that that is a war crime as such. _ dam and you know that that is a war crime as such. but, you know , two weeks ago we were celebrating the anniversary of the dambuster raid in the rhine and in germany during the second world war. is this a legitimate tool of war? no matter who has

used it, no matter if it's the ukrainians that have blown this up or the russians have blown it, blown it up. one thing is for sure, this isn't a crack just made bigger in a dam. you do not get a whole like that. i'm told we can now try and re—establish_ i'm told we can now try and re—establish our— i'm told we can now try and re—establish our interview with ttttte— re—establish our interview with wttte newt.— re—establish our interview with mirka barbu. there merger. aside tren— mirka barbu. there merger. aside tten tne— mirka barbu. there merger. aside from the enormous— mirka barbu. there merger. aside from the enormous humanitarian enete— from the enormous humanitarian enete ent— from the enormous humanitarian enete ent tne— from the enormous humanitarian crisis and the fact— from the enormous humanitarian crisis and the fact that this is meet— crisis and the fact that this is neet tttetw— crisis and the fact that this is neet tttetw e— crisis and the fact that this is most likely a war— crisis and the fact that this is most likely a war crime, this is an environmental— most likely a war crime, this is an environmental disaster as wet.— an environmental disaster as wet. tnete— an environmental disaster as well. there were— an environmental disaster as well. there were serious concerns yesterday about the geeettttttw— concerns yesterday about the possibility cooling ponds possibility of the cooling ponds for possibility of the cooling ponds tet e— possibility of the cooling ponds for a nuclear— possibility of the cooling ponds for a nuclear power plant being etteetet— for a nuclear power plant being affected iwe're _ for a nuclear power plant being affected we're that isn't affected. we're told that isn't affected. we're told that isn't a-yett_ affected. we're told that isn't e-wet. ttt- affected. we're told that isn't e-wet. ttt tne- affected. we're told that isn't a yet, but the flooding a problem yet, but the flooding is a problem yet, but the flooding te engetng— a problem yet, but the flooding te engetng. tote— a problem yet, but the flooding is ongoing. lots of— a problem yet, but the flooding is ongoing. lots of animals and wtttttte— is ongoing. lots of animals and wtttttte ent— is ongoing. lots of animals and wildlife and rivers— is ongoing. lots of animals and wildlife and rivers being etteetet— wildlife and rivers being affected. _ wildlife and rivers being affected . ii affected. that's correct. i'm being told that a zoo on the russian controlled side of this river has been severely affected. hundreds thousands of animals are affected as well. in fact, president zelenskyy called this the biggest. damage to the

ukraine in much of that in the coming days. much of the areas affected the dam is supposed to drain in about four days, and that's when ukrainian authorities say they will be able to assess the actual damage to both environment and civilian lives. and infrastructure as we've got a bad signal with you, we'll a break off there. but thank you very much- i. but thank you very much indeed for wet— thank you very much indeed for wet ewewtew— thank you very much indeed for wet ewewtew .— thank you very much indeed for your overview . really, really your overview. really, really eggteetete— your overview. really, really appreciate that. _ your overview. really, really appreciate that. marcia saying tnete— appreciate that. marcia saying tnete tnet— appreciate that. marcia saying there that so— appreciate that. marcia saying there that so in— appreciate that. marcia saying there that so in four days time, we— there that so in four days time, we wnete— there that so in four days time, this whole tsunami will drain wttt— this whole tsunami will drain wttt tntn— this whole tsunami will drain will drain and— this whole tsunami will drain will drain and then we'll begin to eee— will drain and then we'll begin to tne— will drain and then we'll begin to see the effects— will drain and then we'll begin to see the effects of what has teen— to see the effects of what has been destroyed.— to see the effects of what has been destroyed. look at that. teet— been destroyed. look at that. look terrifying. _ been destroyed. look at that. look terrifying. ' itiiyt look terrifying. absolutely terrifying. and people saying that this is the garden of ukraine. this is where much of the grain is grown. that will have implications on on the world food supplies and again, it is civilians that are going to be affected by this . and to be affected by this. and that's the tragedy . of course, that's the tragedy. of course, you know, in any war that innocent people should not be

caught up in it and our thoughts go out to them and innocent animals as well. so we were eewtng— animals as well. so we were eewtng e— animals as well. so we were eewtng e ee— animals as well. so we were eewtng e e— animals as well. so we were saying a zoo, a zoo- i“ so we were saying a zoo, a zoo yesterday. ween.— saying a zoo, a zoo yesterday. ween. t— saying a zoo, a zoo yesterday. ween. t tntnt— saying a zoo, a zoo yesterday. yeah, i think it— saying a zoo, a zoo yesterday. yeah, i think it was— saying a zoo, a zoo yesterday. yeah, i think it was in- saying a zoo, a zoo yesterday. yeah, i think it was in the region of 2 to 300 animals drowning. and there's been footage, i mean, constant footage, i mean, constant footage reuters and other footage on reuters and other news agencies of pets, dogs, cats distress , people trying cats in distress, people trying to rescue them. course , to rescue them. and of course, you got to put you know, you've got to put human life first. but people love so love their animals. so a horrific picture, frankly. awful all right. 13 minutes hour, 6:14 tenet.— all right. 13 minutes hour, 6:14 e-eteet. tne— all right. 13 minutes hour, 6:14 o'clock. the prime— all right. 13 minutes hour, 6:14 o'clock. the prime minister is in washington— o'clock. the prime minister is in washington today to seek a nttttew— in washington today to seek a nttttew etwte— in washington today to seek a military style economic alliance wttn— military style economic alliance wttn anette— military style economic alliance with america to— military style economic alliance with america to counter the rise of with america to counter the rise et cntne— with america to counter the rise et cntne .— with america to counter the rise of china . also,— with america to counter the rise of china . also, the— with america to counter the rise of china . also, the risk of of china. also, the risk of etttttetet— of china. also, the risk of artificial intelligence. ti .. artificial intelligence. he'll etee— artificial intelligence. he'll etee te— artificial intelligence. he'll also be speaking- artificial intelligence. he'll also be speaking to congressional and business leaders about more support for ukraine. professor scott lucas, tnent— ukraine. professor scott lucas, tnent et— ukraine. professor scott lucas, tnent et tne— professor scott lucas, friend of the program from the twenty— friend of the program from the tnwetettw et— friend of the program from the university of birmingham , on all university of birmingham, on all of university of birmingham, on all et tnte. — university of birmingham, on all et tnte. teet— university of birmingham, on all of this. good to— university of birmingham, on all of this. good to see— university of birmingham, on all of this. good to see you , scott of this. good to see you, scott . teet— of this. good to see you, scott . get to— of this. good to see you, scott . great to be— of this. good to see you, scott . great to be here- of this. good to see you, scott . great to be here with- of this. good to see you, scott . great to be here with you folks. thank you. thank you for getttng— folks. thank you. thank you for getttng up— folks. thank you. thank you for getttng tp ee— folks. thank you. thank you for getting up so early.— folks. thank you. thank you for getting up so early. and- thank you for getting up so early. and so

retent— getting up so early. and so rishi sunak,— getting up so early. and so rishi sunak, he's got the begging— rishi sunak, he's got the begging bowl— rishi sunak, he's got the begging bowl out on this one, ntt— begging bowl out on this one, at wnet-e— begging bowl out on this one, but what's he— begging bowl out on this one, but what's he trying to explain to anette— but what's he trying to explain to america of— but what's he trying to explain to america of how— but what's he trying to explain to america of how britain will be et— to america of how britain will be et tee— to america of how britain will be et tn— to america of how britain will be of use in this— to america of how britain will be of use in this whole area ? be of use in this whole area? wett— be of use in this whole area? wett tn— be of use in this whole area? wett t-n net— be of use in this whole area? well i'm not sure— be of use in this whole area? well i'm not sure downing street wette— well i'm not sure downing street wettt went— well i'm not sure downing street wettt went wet— well i'm not sure downing street would want you to— well i'm not sure downing street would want you to say begging tewt— would want you to say begging tewt. anen. — would want you to say begging bowl, amen. but— would want you to say begging bowl, amen. g would want you to say begging bowl, amen. but one of the two purposes of this visit is damaged limitation. and we need a little bit of honesty here, at least seeing it from the american point of view. uh, there will be no us—uk trade deal there will be no us—uk trade deal. that mythical notion of bofis deal. that mythical notion of boris johnson that he kept whipping up , boris johnson that he kept whipping up, as he said, brexit will get done. there will be no negotiations at all until 2025 at the earliest. and even those are questionable at this point . are questionable at this point. uk foreign direct investment declined in the number of projects last year by 6. why is that? in part it's because european investment into the uk has been more difficult because of brexit. so what rishi sunak is trying to do is he's going to

try to play up the idea that you can make deals with individual american companies and businesses and will fill businesses and that will fill the so he'll make a the gap. and so he'll make a speech american businessmen speech to american businessmen and he'll that they're and he'll proclaim that they're going billions of dollars going to be billions of dollars investments. going to be billions of dollars investmeit's. going to be billions of dollars investmeit's pr that does lead whether it's pr that does lead to us companies filling the gap that we have right now in terms of foreign direct investment, we'll see. i mean, i'm the second side. i don't know about you,— second side. i don't know about wet. tteteeeen— second side. i don't know about you, professor. sorry— second side. i don't know about you, professor. sorry to- you, professor. sorry to tntentnt— you, professor. sorry to interrupt you, - you, professor. sorry to interrupt you, but, i mean, this is interrupt you, but, i mean, this te e— interrupt you, but, i mean, this tee tntne— interrupt you, but, i mean, this is a prime minister that has tene— is a prime minister that has done more for— is a prime minister that has done more for that relationship tnen—tnnel than any other recent prime wtnteten— than any other recent prime- minister._biden minister. he and president biden newng—ewew- minister. he and president biden having every month, i having met almost every month, i tntnt— having met almost every month, i tntnt tnte— having met almost every month, i tntnt tnte ween— having met almost every month, i think this year, i— having met almost every month, i think this year, i think the teen— think this year, i think the biden administration been hugely reassured-not— biden administration been hugely reassured-not only— biden administration been hugely reassured not only the reassured by not only the wtnteet— reassured by not only the windsor framework, know windsor framework, but we know tnet— windsor framework, but we know tnet-stnet— windsor framework, but we know that-sunak went- windsor framework, but we know that-sunak went in- that obviously sunak went in netteet. — that obviously sunak went in netteet. te— that obviously sunak went in belfast. he didn't- that obviously sunak went in belfast. ti t: t: “ g : that obviously sunak went in belfast. t: t: “ g : titi belfast. he didn't stand beside him in belfast when things were under boris johnson, let's put it way. and you know, this it that way. and you know, this is it that way. and you know, this te e— it that way. and you know, this te e tntne— it that way. and you know, this is a prime minister— g and you know, this is a prime minister that went to tntwetettw— is a prime minister that went to tntwetettw tn— is a prime minister that went to university in stamford, didn't is a prime minister that went to univ heity in stamford, didn't is a prime minister that went to univ he stillt stamford, didn't is a prime minister that went to univ he still got mford, didn't is a prime minister that went to univ he still got aford, didn't is a prime minister that went to univ he still got a houseidn't is a prime minister that went to univ he still got a house in|'t he? he still got a house in sente— he? he still got a house in santa monica.— he? he still got a house in santa monica. he's comfortable in santa monica. he's comfortable tn tnet— santa monica. he's comfortable tn tnet ttne— santa monica. he's comfortable in that kind of— santa monica. he's comfortable in that kind of tech zone. the ettteen— in that kind of tech zone. the silicon-brigade.- in that kind of tech zone. the silicon brigade. he feels silicon valley brigade. he feels like silicon valley brigade. he feels ttte ne-e— silicon valley brigade. he feels ttte nee-et— silicon valley brigade. he feels like he's-of them.- silicon valley brigade. he feels like he's of them. doesn't like he's one of them. doesn't he like he's one of them. doesn't ne-te— like he's one of them. doesn't ne-te teete- like he's one of them. doesn't he- he feels like- like he's one of them. doesn't he-he feels like he'sl he know? he feels like he's going and saying, please,

going along and saying, please, joe, sleepy joe like me, joe, please, sleepy joe like me, love something with love me. do something with sleepy more interested in sleepy joe's more interested in ireland . if sleepy joe is ireland. if sleepy joe is putting any investment in europe, he's going to put it in ireland, not in the uk. i suggest that professor scott lucas , what do you think ? lucas, what do you think? you're both right . let's be you're both right. let's be ttgtenette— you're both right. let's be diplomatic here. and that and wet— diplomatic here. and that and we te— diplomatic here. and that and we te. te— diplomatic here. and that and that is, is that— diplomatic here. and that and that is, is that isabel's right, we— that is, is that isabel's right, we wnen— that is, is that isabel's right, that when we _ that is, is that isabel's right, that when we talk about damage ttnttetten— that when we talk about damage ttnttetten .— that when we talk about damage limitation, rishi _ that when we talk about damage limitation , rishi sunak had limitation, rishi sunak had etteetw— limitation, rishi sunak had already limited some of the tenege— already limited some of the tenege tw— already limited some of the damage by agreeing to that wtnteet— damage by agreeing to that windsor framework with the ttteneen— windsor framework with the european union— windsor framework with the european union over the etieettene— european union over the objections of— european union over the objections of the hard brexiteers _ objections of the hard brexiteers and the dup in wettnetn— brexiteers and the dup in northern ireland, because the tweet— northern ireland, because the tnteet te— northern ireland, because the tnteet to get— northern ireland, because the threat to get rid— northern ireland, because the threat to get rid of the wettnetn— threat to get rid of the northern ireland protocol had teettw— northern ireland protocol had really unsettled— northern ireland protocol had really unsettled the americans . really unsettled the americans. tnen— really unsettled the americans. tnen eeetntw— really unsettled the americans. irish security was— really unsettled the americans. irish security was a priority for irish security was a priority tet wen.— irish security was a priority tet tnen. se— irish security was a priority for them. so sunak has he's been the for them. so sunak has he's been tne etttt— for them. so sunak has he's been tne etttt tn— for them. so sunak has he's been the adult in the— for them. so sunak has he's been the adult in the room after his nteeeeeeette— the adult in the room after his predecessors who— the adult in the room after his predecessors who i'll leave ttnenet— predecessors who i'll leave nnet et— predecessors who i'll leave unnamed at this point. but on the unnamed at this point. but on tne etnet— unnamed at this point. but on the other hand— unnamed at this point. but on the other hand de—man you're ngnt— the other hand de—man you're ngnt tn— the other hand de—man you're ngnt tn tne— the other hand de—man you're right in the broader context, wnten— right in the broader context, wnten te— right in the broader context, which is that— right in the broader context, which is that the americans are not which is that the americans are net entw— which is that the americans are not only looking—

which is that the americans are not only looking at ireland, tnew-te— not only looking at ireland, they're looking— not only looking at ireland, they're looking as they're looking at ireland as ttne—n- they're looking at ireland as ttne—n tnel they're looking at ireland asi one—in the eu they're looking at ireland as. one—in the eu , one of 27 countries in the eu, wnten— one of 27 countries in the eu, wnten nw— one of 27 countries in the eu, which now has— one of 27 countries in the eu, which now has a— one of 27 countries in the eu, which now has a far larger economic bloc— which now has a far larger economic bloc than the uk does on economic bloc than the uk does en te— economic bloc than the uk does en tte — economic bloc than the uk does en tte se— economic bloc than the uk does on its own. so the— economic bloc than the uk does on its own. so the uk still has economic power.— on its own. so the uk still has economic power. you know, we're ettt— economic power. you know, we're etttt tne— economic power. you know, we're still the fifth,— economic power. you know, we're still the fifth, sixth _ economic power. you know, we're still the fifth, sixth largest eeenennw— still the fifth, sixth largest eeenennw et— still the fifth, sixth largest economy of the world, but it teeen-t— economy of the world, but it doesn't have _ economy of the world, but it doesn't have that collective wetgnt— doesn't have that collective weight anymore. and so rishi stnet— weight anymore. and so rishi stnet te— weight anymore. and so rishi stnet te net— weight anymore. and so rishi sunak is not going to deliver tne— sunak is not going to deliver tne getten— sunak is not going to deliver the golden brexit with the nwtnteet— the golden brexit with the mythical trade deal. what you try mythical trade deal. what you tw te— mythical trade deal. what you try te te— mythical trade deal. what you tw te te. wet— mythical trade deal. what you tw te te. you tw— mythical trade deal. what you try to do, you try to rebuild eten— try to do, you try to rebuild etee tw— try to do, you try to rebuild etee by ten.— try to do, you try to rebuild step by step- it_ try to do, you try to rebuild step by step. it will take time. it step by step. it will take time. tt wttt— step by step. it will take time. tt wttt tete— step by step. it will take time. it will take time— step by step. it will take time. it will take time to rebuild tnet— it will take time to rebuild tnet tttet— it will take time to rebuild that trust and _ it will take time to rebuild that trust and relationship. but tnen— that trust and relationship. but tnen netnte— that trust and relationship. but tnen netnte te— that trust and relationship. but then points to the positive side is then points to the positive side te tnet— then points to the positive side te tnet retent— then points to the positive side is that rishi sunak can play on the is that rishi sunak can play on tne ttee— is that rishi sunak can play on tne ttee et— is that rishi sunak can play on the idea of the— is that rishi sunak can play on the idea of the military and ttntenette— the idea of the military and diplomatic cooperation over the tttetne— diplomatic cooperation over the ukraine conflict— diplomatic cooperation over the ukraine conflict . _ diplomatic cooperation over the ukraine conflict . ukraine conflict. okay. tteteeeet— ukraine conflict. okay. professor scott lucas , always professor scott lucas, always good to get your thoughts. we could talk for so much longer, but we've got to leave it there. thank you so much. thank you. 80 minutes past 6:00. let's tnng— 80 minutes past 6:00. let's tnng vou— 80 minutes past 6:00. let's tnng you tn— 80 minutes past 6:00. let's tnng you tn te— 80 minutes past 6:00. let's bring you up to date with the teet— bring you up to date with the teet et— bring you up to date with the rest of today's— bring you up to date with the rest of today's news stories. tnt— rest of today's news stories. and-minister- rest of today's news stories. and-minister has| and the prime minister has teeentet— and the prime minister has described a— and the prime minister has described a new weight drug described a new weight loss drug eeenen— described a new weight loss drug eenene—tnel scheme as a game changer. the tte— scheme as a game changer. the tte-tte.— scheme as a game changer. the £40-pilot, which- scheme as a game changer. the £40 pilot, which can £40 million pilot, which can netn— £40 million pilot, which can netn nettente— £40 million pilot, which can help patients lose 15% of body

wetgnt—te- help patients lose 15% of body weight,_to tackle. weight, is intended to tackle eteettw— weight, is intended to tackle eteettw ent— weight, is intended to tackle obesity and cut— weight, is intended to tackle obesity and cut nhs waiting list tnee— obesity and cut nhs waiting list ttnee .— obesity and cut nhs waiting list ttnee . vett— obesity and cut nhs waiting list times . very shortly, we're going times. very shortly, we're going to times. very shortly, we're going te te— times. very shortly, we're going te te tetttng— times. very shortly, we're going to be talking to— times. very shortly, we're going to be talking to the health eeetetett— to be talking to the health secretary, steve _ to be talking to the health secretary, steve barclay, about we— secretary, steve barclay, about we tnet. — secretary, steve barclay, about this trial. he'll— secretary, steve barclay, about this trial. he'll join us just tetete— this trial. he'll join us just before 7:00. _ this trial. he'll join us just before 7:00. nearly a third of nnnew— before 7:00. nearly a third of primary schools— before 7:00. nearly a third of primary schools in england don't newe— primary schools in england don't newe e— primary schools in england don't newe e mete— primary schools in england don't have a male teacher. that's eccetttng— have a male teacher. that's eccetttng te— have a male teacher. that's according to a new study and is according to a new study and is a record low. the warwick business school report said that boys from poorer backgrounds would benefit from having a male teacher in school, but they are less likely to have one. the national lottery— less likely to have one. the national lottery has- i the national lottery has named ettntngnen— national lottery has named birmingham as— national lottery has named birmingham as the luckiest place to birmingham as the luckiest place te twe— birmingham as the luckiest place te ttwe tn— birmingham as the luckiest place te ttwe tn tne— birmingham as the luckiest place to live in the uk.— birmingham as the luckiest place to live in the uk. it— birmingham as the luckiest place to live in the uk. it tops a tet— to live in the uk. it tops a ttet et— to live in the uk. it tops a list of millionaire winners with 205— list of millionaire winners with 205 en— list of millionaire winners with 205 since 1994.— list of millionaire winners with 205 since 1994. in— list of millionaire winners with 205 since 1994. in the last tnee— 205 since 1994. in the last tnnee teete— 205 since 1994. in the last three years alone, 35 millionaires- three years alone, 35 millionaires have won in the tttntngnen— millionaires have won in the birmingham area. millionaires have won in the birmingham area . could i say birmingham area. could i say eenetntng— birmingham area. could i say something about— birmingham area. could i say something about schools and the teet— something about schools and the teet et— something about schools and the lack of particularly— something about schools and the lack of particularly in primary eeneetee— lack of particularly in primary schools? men— lack of particularly in primary schools? men as— lack of particularly in primary

schools? men as teachers and in my schools? men as teachers and in nnt ettettegtennw— schools? men as teachers and in my autobiography, i devote quite a my autobiography, i devote quite etew— my autobiography, i devote quite etew negee— my autobiography, i devote quite etew negee te— my autobiography, i devote quite a few pages to the— my autobiography, i devote quite a few pages to the influence of a few pages to the influence of e mete— a few pages to the influence of a male teacher— a few pages to the influence of a male teacher who had me in ennew— a male teacher who had me in ennew 5— a male teacher who had me in ennew 5 et— a male teacher who had me in ennew 5 en te— a male teacher who had me in primary 5 or 6 and— a male teacher who had me in primary 5 or 6 and seven. so for tnee— primary 5 or 6 and seven. so for tree wee — primary 5 or 6 and seven. so for three years, tremendous. he's etttt— three years, tremendous. he's etttt etne— three years, tremendous. he's still alive today. _ three years, tremendous. he's still alive today. his name is petty— still alive today. his name is patty o'hanlon_ still alive today. his name is patty o'hanlon in belfast. and he introduced— patty o'hanlon in belfast. and he introduced me— patty o'hanlon in belfast. and he introduced me to a love of etteetten— he introduced me to a love of education and— he introduced me to a love of education and a— he introduced me to a love of education and a love of history ent— education and a love of history ent e— education and a love of history and a curiosity— education and a love of history and a curiosity and he would tnng— and a curiosity and he would tnng tte— and a curiosity and he would bring his guitar— and a curiosity and he would bring his guitar into class. and t-n — bring his guitar into class. and t-n ee— bring his guitar into class. and t-n ett— bring his guitar into class. and i'm sure all of— bring his guitar into class. and i'm sure all of this is on a nettenet— i'm sure all of this is on a national curriculum or eenetntng— national curriculum or something. or maybe there wasn't in something. or maybe there wasn't tn tneee— something. or maybe there wasn't in those guitars— something. or maybe there wasn't in those guitars in— something. or maybe there wasn't in those guitars in class. tnet-e— in those guitars in class. that's what— in those guitars in class. that's what i'm saying. it just tett— that's what i'm saying. it just tett nene— that's what i'm saying. it just tett et— that's what i'm saying. it just felt none of it— that's what i'm saying. it just felt none of it felt— that's what i'm saying. it just felt none of it felt as if you tetng— felt none of it felt as if you were being forced to learn about tntnge— were being forced to learn about tntnge tte— were being forced to learn about things like that. _ were being forced to learn about things like that. the ones that went off piste. yeah yeah. and they created that “bit?" gilt?" and they created that atmosphere for teetntng— they created that atmosphere for teetntng tnet— they created that atmosphere for learning that you— they created that atmosphere for learning that you wanted to teen— learning that you wanted to teen ent— learning that you wanted to teen ent e— learning that you wanted to learn and a huge debt and ttttetent— learn and a huge debt and different from _ learn and a huge debt and different from my own father. my tetnet— different from my own father. my own father was, _ different from my own father. my own father was, was always there in own father was, was always there tn ttttetent— own father was, was always there in different ways,— own father was, was always there in different ways, but my own tetnet— in different ways, but my own father wasn't _ in different ways, but my own father wasn't an _ in different ways, but my own father wasn't an academic in any way— father wasn't an academic in any we et— father wasn't an academic in any we et ween-t— father wasn't an academic in any

way or wasn't aware— father wasn't an academic in any way or wasn't aware . my father way or wasn't aware. my father wettt— way or wasn't aware. my father wettt teeen — way or wasn't aware. my father would teach us— way or wasn't aware. my father would teach us morality and wettt— would teach us morality and would teach— would teach us morality and would teach us— would teach us morality and would teach us to do the right tntng. — would teach us to do the right tntng. tnt— would teach us to do the right tntng. ant tne— would teach us to do the right thing. and the teacher, though , thing. and the teacher, though, wettt— thing. and the teacher, though, wettt wettt— thing. and the teacher, though, would would just— thing. and the teacher, though, would would just put you in teten— would would just put you in teten wttn— would would just put you in touch with the— would would just put you in touch with the things you should do, touch with the things you should te. wnetnet— touch with the things you should do, whether they _ touch with the things you should do, whether they were right or wng — do, whether they were right or wng ttt— do, whether they were right or wrong, but tremendous influence newng— wrong, but tremendous influence newng e— wrong, but tremendous influence newng e en— wrong, but tremendous influence having a man about i mean, ettnetgn— having a man about i mean, although having— having a man about i mean, although having said that, all my although having said that, all nw-tntttenee- although having said that, all my influence was in life my biggest influence was in life my biggest influence was in life nnt netnen— my biggest influence was in life nnt netnet. nt— my biggest influence was in life my mother, my school teachers, etewete— my mother, my school teachers, etewete egente— my mother, my school teachers, previous agents ,_ my mother, my school teachers, previous agents , you know, previous agents, you know, neeete— previous agents, you know, various people, strong women in wet— various people, strong women in wet tte.— various people, strong women in wet ttte. wett— various people, strong women in your life, very important. well you— your life, very important. well wet eett— your life, very important. well you eett wet— your life, very important. well you said you were— your life, very important. well you said you were strong . you you said you were strong. you eett— you said you were strong. you eett wet— you said you were strong. you eett you eett— you said you were strong. you said you said that— you said you were strong. you said you said that . ' said you said that. am i not an influence ? there's— said you said that. am i not an influence ? there's some- influence? there's some negnttteent— i7 there's some magnificent influence . you magnificent influence. you ttetteet— magnificent influence. you distract me— magnificent influence. you distract me every day . “ distract me every day. but in all seriousness, i mean, you i suppose you had that father figure at home, so it wasn't, you know , a deal breaker for you you know, a deal breaker for you whether you had a good but had a different type of influence with the teacher. but you benefited tten — the teacher. but you benefited tten tt. — the teacher. but you benefited tten t. tt— the teacher. but you benefited tten tt. ttt t— the teacher. but you benefited from it. but i do— the teacher. but you benefited from it. but i do wonder if they have a point really here. you know, these kids that don't have either a father at home or a positive role model, if they then don't encounter other adult males, here's the

males, really? so here's the gteetten— males, really? so here's the question.-school,| males, really? so here's the- question. -school, what question. secondary school, what are question. secondary school, what tne— question. secondary school, what are the impact?— question. secondary school, what are the impact? why? why? question. secondary school, what aretithe impact? why? why? question. secondary school, what area it?“ pact? why? why? question. secondary school, what area : t? why? why? question. secondary school, what area titit �*hy? why? question. secondary school, what area it?“ titit �*hy? why? question. secondary school, what are? ”t?" titit �*hy? git�*ly? question. secondary school, what are? ”t?" �*hy? as a man, do you not want to be a teacher? what is it that predicates against most men becoming teachers? like, for instance, think i'd be a very instance, i think i'd be a very good teacher . instance, i think i'd be a very good teacher. yeah. would you not to into my class? not like to come into my class? taught me many thing . may taught me many a thing. may i eett — taught me many a thing. may i eewe wetetet— taught me many a thing. may i say? webster-the- taught me many a thing. may i say? webster-the back- taught me many a thing. may i say? i you'd say? webster at the back. you'd be a say? webster at the back. you'd be e ntgttnete— say? webster at the back. you'd be a nightmare. i'd— say? webster at the back. you'd be a nightmare. i'd give- say? i you'd be a nightmare. i'd give you ttnee. — be a nightmare. i'd give you ttnee. met— be a nightmare. i'd give you lines. -you give- be a nightmare. i'd give you lines. g g lines. can you give lines nowadays? probably can't do ttet— nowadays? probably can't do tnet. we.— nowadays? probably can't do that. no, probably— :7 probably can't do that. no, probably not. but i must— that. no, probably not. but i must set.— that. no, probably not. but i must set. my— that. no, probably not. but i must say, my kids primary school lots of male teachers, pe teachers reception pupils teachers and in reception pupils in one female in reception. there's one female and one male teacher. and there's one male teacher. but think . i and there's one male teacher. but think. i think london's but i think. i think london's probably a bit different from sort of rural areas. um, but yeah, you are a male teacher yeah, if you are a male teacher in primary school, tell us whether you feel a bit of a bit, a bit out on your own and if you are interested in this debate, let 7:20, we'll be let us know 7:20, we'll be talking about it. you know, why is it important for youngsters under positive male under 11 to have positive male role models, particularly in the classroom ? i loved john murphy. classroom? i loved john murphy. tnee— classroom? i loved john murphy. tnete ee— classroom? i loved john murphy. there are certain— i7 i loved john murphy. there are certain things i mean, i there are certain things i mean, t tttn-t— there are certain things i mean, t tttn-t eene— there are certain things i mean, i didn't care less— there are certain things i mean, i didn't care less about mathematics- i didn't care less about mathematics or anything , but i

mathematics or anything, but i ettnet— mathematics or anything, but i mean, either i— mathematics or anything, but i mean, either i love geography, i tewe— mean, either i love geography, i tewe-tewe— mean, either i love geography, i love love languages. love history, i love languages. tnt— love history, i love languages. ant-tte— love history, i love languages. ant-tttelte- love history, i love languages. and-likelbe the. love history, i love languages. and like be the part and i would like to be the part ttne— and i would like to be the part time-teacher.— and i would like to be the part time-teacher. i'd— and i would like to be the part time teacher. i'd to, time pe teacher. i'd like to, you— time pe teacher. i'd like to, you knew.— time pe teacher. i'd like to, you knew. te— time pe teacher. i'd like to, you know, be there. we used to newe— you know, be there. we used to newe tt— you know, be there. we used to newe t we— you know, be there. we used to have if we didn't— you know, be there. we used to have if we didn't have the right eeete— have if we didn't have the right socks on, we were— have if we didn't have the right socks on, we were given tetentten. — socks on, we were given detention. oh,- socks on, we were given detention. oh, quite right. teen.— detention. oh, quite right. teen. ot— detention. oh, quite right. teen. ot tte— detention. oh, quite right. yeah. or the hair- detention. oh, quite right. “bit?" 0” ” titi”. “i“ ti yeah. or the hair scrunchie wasn't matching the blazer and we , had pe teacher who we had, we had a pe teacher who wasn't american, but he spoke in an american accent . why was your an american accent. why was your eettege — an american accent. why was your eettege eeetee — an american accent. why was your college socks? that's— an american accent. why was your college socks? that's what you should say. we didn't say college socks? : we didn't say socks. should say. we didn't say socks. he should say. we didn't say socks. te eett— should say. we didn't say socks. te eett eete— should say. we didn't say socks. he said socks. _ should say. we didn't say socks. he said socks. you— should say. we didn't say socks. he said socks. you know,- : we didn't say socks. he said socks. /tit. “at: he said socks. you know, we had to wear pe knickers. that wouldn't be allowed.-

day. and you know those blue wetne—wettl day. and you know those blue. wetneett—w tege. veins you get through your legs, wett— veins you get through your legs, wet-sene— veins you get through your legs, your-some people- veins you get through your legs, your some people would your thighs. some people would etttet—tten - your thighs. some people would suffer—from -in| suffer quite badly from them in the-remember- suffer quite badly from them in the-remember the- suffer quite badly from them ini the-remember the warm suffer quite badly from them in- the - remember the warm when the cold. remember the warm when you came from being out at you came in from being out at pe in the rain? it was in the rain? oh, it was wonderful. you'd have your your orange whatever orange squash and your whatever snack after being snack you'd get warm after being freezing around outside. freezing running around outside. there's it. i've there's nothing like it. i've seen you in your pe “g i g i've seen you in your pe knickers ettenttnee— seen you in your pe knickers oftentimes totally sunak you oftentimes i'm totally sunak you see oftentimes i'm totally sunak you eee—n— oftentimes i'm totally sunak you eee—n nt- oftentimes i'm totally sunak you eee—n nnt ettl see me on the wall in my old eeneete — see me on the wall in my old school? yeah.— see me on the wall in my old school? yeah. i— see me on the wall in my old school? yeah. i was- see me on the wall in my old school? “bit?" tiy school? yeah. i was very sporty, i must add. yeah, i was very sporty. fine, fine. any more. stop it. no, but you had a. yeah, you were very good. you wen-et— yeah, you were very good. you won-of medals. - yeah, you were very good. you won of medals. g won lots of medals. strong, etteng— won lots of medals. strong, strong anyway stay with strong thighs. anyway stay with us. we'll whether us. we'll be discussing whether tennet— us. we'll be discussing whether former-president- ..5 we'll be discussing whether former president mike pence former vice president mike pence has former vice president mike pence nee—et— former vice president mike pence nee—et-wntte- former vice president mike pencei has-at-white house. has a chance at the white house. tee— has a chance at the white house. te-e tntewtng— has a chance at the white house. he's throwing his— has a chance at the white house. he's throwing his hat into the nng— he's throwing his hat into the nng egetnet— he's throwing his hat into the ring against former ring against his former boss, tteettent— president trump. we'll talk etett— president trump. we'll talk about - minute - president trump. we'll talk about-minute .-

thank you. welcome back. 626. stu— thank you. welcome back. 626. stttt te— thank you. welcome back. 626. stttt te ente— thank you. welcome back. 626. still to come on— thank you. welcome back. 626. still to come on today's- thank you. welcome back. 626. still to come on today's are we back on air again without being cued? goodness me. could you gte— cued? goodness me. could you gtwe ne— cued? goodness me. could you gtwe ne tnet— cued? goodness me. could you give me that daily— i:7 goodness me. could you give me that daily express? ttee— give me that daily express? then we— give me that daily express? then we ge. — give me that daily express? there we go. yeah.- give me that daily express? ”ti git yeah. thank give me that daily express? “ti”ti git yeah. thank you there we go. yeah. thank you went— there we go. yeah. thank you very nten— there we go. yeah. thank you very much indeed.— “ti”ti git yeah. thank you very much indeed. yeah so just to very much indeed. yeah so just te ntgnttgnt— very much indeed. yeah so just to highlight some— very much indeed. yeah so just to highlight some things ahead for to highlight some things ahead tet too— to highlight some things ahead for 7:00 today,— to highlight some things ahead for 7:00 today, steve barclay . for 7:00 today, steve barclay. stewe— for 7:00 today, steve barclay. steve barclay— for 7:00 today, steve barclay. steve barclay is— for 7:00 today, steve barclay. steve barclay is the health eeetetew— steve barclay is the health secretary and _ steve barclay is the health secretary and he's going to be tetttng— secretary and he's going to be tetttng etett— secretary and he's going to be talking about the _ secretary and he's going to be talking about the government's nten— talking about the government's nten te— talking about the government's new plan to cut— talking about the government's new plan to cut obesity by way of new plan to cut obesity by way et e— new plan to cut obesity by way of a revenue lutionary new drug. tnt— of a revenue lutionary new drug. tnt tnet-e— of a revenue lutionary new drug. and that's what— of a revenue lutionary new drug. and that's what i— of a revenue lutionary new drug. and that's what i was reaching for and that's what i was reaching tetltne— and that's what i was reaching for the newspaper in front of for in the newspaper in front of the for in the newspaper in front of tne tenteee. — for in the newspaper in front of the express. they're it the express. they're calling it a . the express. they're calling it e—. tnte- the express. they're calling it e—. tnte te- the express. they're calling it a_. this is noti a game changer. this is not tetttng— a game changer. this is not we're talking about diabetic tttge— we're talking about diabetic tttge tetete— we're talking about diabetic drugs before which get make neente-e— drugs before which get make neente-e wet— drugs before which get make neente-e way te— drugs before which get make people's way to fall . but this people's way to fall. but this is people's way to fall. but this te tnte— people's way to fall. but this te tnte te— people's way to fall. but this is this is not— people's way to fall. but this is this is not a— people's way to fall. but this is this is not a this is something- is this is not a this is something new. so talking to teettn— something new. so talking to health secretary— something new. so talking to health secretary about that and etett— health secretary about that and etett so— health secretary about that and about 50 minutes— health secretary about that and about 50 minutes time then at no— about 50 minutes time then at no wett— about 50 minutes time then at 7:20 we'll have— about 50 minutes time then at 7:20 we'll have that debate etett— 7:20 we'll have that debate about schools— 7:20 we'll have that debate about schools are they being too eett— about schools are they being too eettltnett— about schools are they being too soft-their pupils— about schools are they being too soft-their pupils ? - about schools are they being too soft their pupils ? iltit”ti soft on their pupils? more teectete— soft on their pupils? more teachers threatening leave soft on their pupils? more teatprofessiontening leave soft on their pupils? more teatprofession,tning leave soft on their pupils? more teatprofession , blamingeave soft on their pupils? more teatprofession , blaming student the profession, blaming student aggression. we'll see if can aggression. we'll see if we can if more be done to reduce if more can be done to reduce bad behaviour. gosh , what can bad behaviour. gosh, what can you— bad behaviour. gosh, what can get te— bad behaviour. gosh, what can get te te— bad behaviour. gosh, what can you do to reduce— bad behaviour. gosh, what can

you do to reduce bad- ittitt: ” gosh, what can you do to reduce bad behaviour? wet.— you do to reduce bad behaviour? wet. wet— you do to reduce bad behaviour? wett. you een-t— you do to reduce bad behaviour? well, you can't get— you do to reduce bad behaviour? well, you can't get them- you do to reduce bad behaviour? well, you can't get them to- well, you can't get them to write lines. would you just be ente— write lines. would you just be ette-tnene- write lines. would you just be able -them? and - write lines. would you just bej able -them? and that write lines. would you just be- able -them? and that was able to thump them? and that was the able to thump them? and that was tte-tnet. — able to thump them? and that was the -that. .didn't.- the end of that. we didn't. teen.— the end of that. we didn't. teen-we— the end of that. we didn't. yeah,-we were- the end of that. we didn't. yeah, we were talking about yeah, but we were talking about this yeah, but we were talking about tnte—wet- yeah, but we were talking abouti tnte—wet-wnen this yesterday and you said when you this yesterday and you said when wet wee— this yesterday and you said when you e nt— this yesterday and you said when you were a kid your— this yesterday and you said when you were a kid your parents wettt— you were a kid your parents wettt eet— you were a kid your parents would say, well,— you were a kid your parents would say, well, if you did, if you— would say, well, if you did, if wet-tntnntng- would say, well, if you did, if you-thumping at- would say, well, if you did, if you thumping at school, you got a thumping at school, you— you got a thumping at school, wet-teeenet- you probably deserved it. wneteee— you probably deserved it. whereaslsomeone- you probably deserved it. whereas someone had laid a whereas if someone had laid a finger your children. yes > finger on your children. yes > how would have felt? would how would you have felt? i would newe— how would you have felt? i would nene-tetnt— how would you have felt? i would have-round with— how would you have felt? i would have round with solicitors. have gone round with solicitors. exactly yes. the world's etenget— exactly yes. the world's changed-know,- exactly yes. the world's changed.-know, has changed. you know, the world has etenget— changed. you know, the world has changed. unfortunately it changed. but unfortunately it neene—genel changed. but unfortunately iti means—gone out means discipline has gone out the means discipline has gone out tte—eene- means discipline has gone out the-some cases. . means discipline has gone out the-some cases. i| means discipline has gone out- the-some cases. i went the window in some cases. i went to the window in some cases. i went te gtennnnet— the window in some cases. i went to grammar school 1971, and i think that was the last year there was sort of corporal punishment and which meant they could hit you with straps and sticks and various things like that. oh and i know, but then there's lots of people will be watching this morning and they will say, didn't do me any harm. you weren't in therapy for years ettet— you weren't in therapy for years ettet tnt.— you weren't in therapy for years after that, were— you weren't in therapy for years after that, were you? so did i tet— after that, were you? so did i tett wet— after that, were you? so did i ever tell you my— after that, were you? so did i ever tell you my story about the tte— ever tell you my story about the tte ttewtng— ever tell you my story about the tte ttewtng up?— ever tell you my story about the bus blowing up? well, you did. but bus blowing up? well, you did. ttt-wet— bus blowing up? well, you did. ttt-wet tett— bus blowing up? well, you did. but-you told the- bus blowing up? well, you did. but you told the viewers but have you told the viewers etett— but have you told the viewers etett-tee— but have you told the viewers about-too long. - but have you told the viewers. about-too long. takes. about it takes too long. takes. to.— about it takes too long. takes. we. ne— about it takes too long. takes. no, no, no, no, no.— about it takes too long. no, no, no, no, no. yeah, you're ttgtt—

no, no, no, no, no. yeah, you're ngnt. vet-te— no, no, no, no, no. yeah, you're right. you're right.— no, no, no, no, no. yeah, you're right. you're right. from the netnt— right. you're right. from the netnt et— right. you're right. from the netnt et wew— right. you're right. from the point of view that i should have net— point of view that i should have hadlcounsellor_ point of view that i should have had counsellor about four had a counsellor for about four wee — had a counsellor for about four wee wett— had a counsellor for about four years. well, to— had a counsellor for about four years. well, to .fair,- had a counsellor for about four years. �*ftttiii ” years. well, to be fair, yeah. yes. when you saw years. ” gilt?" t/ti5t when you saw someone years. well, to be fair, yeah. - yes. when you saw someone being enet— yes. when you saw someone being enet-tn— yes. when you saw someone being enet-tn tent— yes. when you saw someone being shot-in front of— yes. when you saw someone being shot-in front of you. - t/ti5t when you saw someone being shot in front of you. so shot dead in front of you. so wete— shot dead in front of you. so you've—unusuali you've had a pretty unusual etttteet— you've had a pretty unusual childhood.iwell,- you've had a pretty unusual childhood. �*ftttiii titi; you've had a pretty unusual childhood. titi; you've had a pretty unusual childhood. tit?th childhood. well, one day on a bus coming to school basically cut long story cut a very, very long story short, and it is much funnier, i can tell. it's actually funny, but so little jumps but anyway, so this little jumps on he goes, we are on the bus and he goes, we are coming down this bus for the provisional ira. we'll get off. we .whatever. _ provisional ira. we'll get off. we .whatever. so - provisional ira. we'll get off. we .whatever. so the - ? we'll get off. we whatever. so the two we say, whatever. so the two guys— we say, whatever. so the two gtwe-wttn- we say, whatever. so the two gtwe-wttn tne - we say, whatever. so the two guys with the petrol guys come on with the petrol tente— guys come on with the petrol bombs-explode- guys come on with the petrol bombs explode the guys come on with the petrol- bombs-explode the bus. bombs and they explode the bus. i bombs and they explode the bus. t-tewn— bombs and they explode the bus. t-tewn te— bombs and they explode the bus. i-down to school,— bombs and they explode the bus. i-down to school, run- bombs and they explode the bus. i-down to school, run up- bombs and they explode the bus. i-down to school, run up the. i run down to school, run up the driveway, and the president of the is standing there the college is standing there reading prayers as reading his morning prayers as he a priest and basically he was a priest and basically he's looking at his prayers. he's very tall, man , and i'm he's very tall, man, and i'm looking at him 13 and looking up at him at 13 and going, father, father, father. i was the bus. the bus blows was on the bus. the bus blows and go look. and it's just and i go look. and it's just blown up there. it's on fire. and all that smoke and all those flames. okay, flames. but i'm okay, father. i'm okay. don't worry . detention i'm okay. don't worry. detention man. that was that . that's man. that was that. that's basically that—

man. that was that. that's basically that was- man. that was that. that's basically that was it. - that's basically that was it. \ttiit man. that was that. that's basically that was it. not a uk wttt— basically that was it. not a uk sun will get you a nurse but we send you don't worry about coming to school for a week. no deaths for a month or a year anyway. if you have a story that eettt— anyway. if you have a story that eettt teet— anyway. if you have a story that could beat that— anyway. if you have a story that could beat that one.— if you have a story that could beat that one. gb views at gb could beat that one. gb views at en wewe— could beat that one. gb views at en wewe eetn— could beat that one. gb views at gb news .com. maybe you were the guy gb news .com. maybe you were the gtw tnet— gb news .com. maybe you were the gtw tnet wee— gb news .com. maybe you were the guy that was wearing— gb news .com. maybe you were the guy that was wearing the mask ent— guy that was wearing the mask ent tne— guy that was wearing the mask and the petrol— guy that was wearing the mask and the petrol bomb. �*ftt“.?tg and the petrol bomb. what was his and the petrol bomb. what was tte-tetnen— and the petrol bomb. what was his father. father his name? father. who? father what? no, he was. he went on what? oh, no, he was. he went on to be a cardinal— what? oh, no, he was. he went on to be a cardinal or— �*tsett“?t7 o“ he went on to be a cardinal or something. vee- — to be a cardinal or something. yes. something— to be a cardinal or something. t/ti5t something very, very high. yes. something very, very high. ween. —we. - yes. something very, very high.| yeah. _no. bishop. yeah. it was bishop. no. bishop. ttenen— yeah. it was bishop. no. bishop.- ttenen—weten. bishop walsh. yeah bishop walsh. teen. — bishop walsh. yeah bishop walsh. teen. teen— bishop walsh. yeah bishop walsh. yeah. yeah right.— bishop walsh. yeah bishop walsh. yeah. yeah right. so— bishop walsh. yeah bishop walsh. / / right. so mike bishop walsh. yeah bishop walsh. t/tit?“ t/tit?“ right. so mike pence yeah. yeah right. so mike pence .tennet— yeah. yeah right. so mike pence . t we— yeah. yeah right. so mike pence , former vice president,- , former vice president, etttetettw— , former vice president, officially declared himself as a eentttete— officially declared himself as a candidate in— officially declared himself as a candidate in the— officially declared himself as a candidate in the american presidential— candidate in the american presidential elections. / presidential elections. yeah, ent— presidential elections. yeah, ent tntn— presidential elections. yeah, and this means— presidential elections. yeah, and this means he could be going against his former boss, donald trump, who is, of course, currently polling well ahead in the competition. now we've got enet— the competition. now we've got enett et— the competition. now we've got chair of republicans— ti.titi“ g ti“ now we've got chair of republicans overseas gt.— chair of republicans overseas tt.-sweneen— chair of republicans overseas tt.-sweneen .- chair of republicans overseas uk, swenson . and very nice uk, greg swenson. and very nice to uk, greg swenson. and very nice te newe— uk, greg swenson. and very nice te newe wet— uk, greg swenson. and very nice to have you here,— uk, greg swenson. and very nice to have you here, greg. greg, wnet— to have you here, greg. greg, wnet te— to have you here, greg. greg, wnet te wet— to have you here, greg. greg, what do you think about does tttte— what do you think about does tttte tente— what do you think about does mike pence create a problem or a eetttten— mike pence create a problem or a eetttten tet— mike pence create a problem or a solution for you?— mike pence create a problem or a solution for you? republicans? i'm solution for you? republicans? t-nn net— solution for you? republicans? t-nn net ewe— solution for you? republicans? i'm not sure it's— solution for you? republicans? i'm not sure it's a— solution for you? republicans? i'm not sure it's a solution, but i think he plays an important role because he's going to have to run that fine

line between, you know, being part of the administration, but also being a critic of trump on papeh also being a critic of trump on paper. he's a phenomenal candidate , especially from a candidate, especially from a conservative point of view. so, you know, he's got great conservative credentials. he was a congressman, very conservative in the house, and then he was governor of indiana. and he did a great job as vice president. he was kind of the conservative anchor for trump and kind of kept trump in that conservative lane. that's why trump chose him basically as his running mate. yeah. and as an observer from tn tne— yeah. and as an observer from over in the uk— yeah. and as an observer from over in the uk ,_ yeah. and as an observer from over in the uk , it— yeah. and as an observer from over in the uk , it seems as over in the uk, it seems as tnetgn— over in the uk, it seems as tnetgn ne-e— over in the uk, it seems as though he's certainly distanced ntneett— though he's certainly distanced himself-trump— though he's certainly distanced himself trump over the himself from trump over the centtet— himself from trump over the capitol-riots— himself from trump over the capitol-riots ,- himself from trump over the capitol riots , which will capitol hill riots, which will nteeee— capitol hill riots, which will nteeee e— capitol hill riots, which will nteeee e wtng— capitol hill riots, which will please a wing the party who please a wing of the party who ttet— please a wing of the party who ttet ttenttw— please a wing of the party who just frankly couldn't accept tnet. — just frankly couldn't accept tnet. teen.— just frankly couldn't accept that. yeah, he's- just frankly couldn't accept that. /tit?t“ \ttiit that. yeah, he's trump no, but that. yeah, he's trump no, but that might play well as well or not, you know, and he actually took the high road on january 6th when trump was asking him not to count the electors . and not to count the electors. and so he in many ways , he- so he in many ways , he really so he in many ways, he really enewet— so he in many ways, he really showed some— so he in many ways, he really showed some some really great teetetentn— showed some some really great leadership during— showed some some really great leadership during that during tnet— leadership during that during

tnet ttne— leadership during that during tnet ttne .— leadership during that during that time . the— leadership during that during that time . the question is, can that time. the question is, can he that time. the question is, can ne ntet— that time. the question is, can ne ntet tn— that time. the question is, can ne ntet tn enw— that time. the question is, can he pick up any real trump etnnenete— he pick up any real trump etnnettete ?— he pick up any real trump supporters ? that's probably supporters? that's probably tetttttt— supporters? that's probably doubtful. the— supporters? that's probably doubtful. the true diehards. but but doubtful. the true diehards. but ttt wete— doubtful. the true diehards. but but you're already— doubtful. the true diehards. but but you're already seeing trump tete— but you're already seeing trump tete tn— but you're already seeing trump tete tn tne— but you're already seeing trump fade in the polls— but you're already seeing trump fade in the polls to a certain tegtee— fade in the polls to a certain tegtee. vet— fade in the polls to a certain degree. you know, the gap between— degree. you know, the gap between trump— degree. you know, the gap between trump and desantis is nenewet tne— between trump and desantis is narrowed. the most recent poll to narrowed. the most recent poll te ten— narrowed. the most recent poll te ten netnte— narrowed. the most recent poll to ten points, and— narrowed. the most recent poll to ten points, and that was 24 netnte— to ten points, and that was 24 netnte e— to ten points, and that was 24 points a month— to ten points, and that was 24 points a month ago. you know, it's points a month ago. you know, tt-e wet— points a month ago. you know, tt-e wet knew.— points a month ago. you know, it's you know, trump does really wett— it's you know, trump does really wett wnen— it's you know, trump does really wett wnen ne— it's you know, trump does really well when he gets— it's you know, trump does really well when he gets indicted or wnen— well when he gets indicted or wnen tnee-e— well when he gets indicted or when there's some scandal eeeeetetet— when there's some scandal associated with— when there's some scandal associated with him, which is meet— associated with him, which is neet weeke— associated with him, which is neet weete .— associated with him, which is most weeks . and— associated with him, which is most weeks . and yeah, of course. most weeks. and yeah, of course. ett— most weeks. and yeah, of course. ttt tett— most weeks. and yeah, of course. ttt ttt etee— most weeks. and yeah, of course. ttt ttt etee .— most weeks. and yeah, of course. but but also , it— most weeks. and yeah, of course. but but also , it shows that his but but also, it shows that his ent— but but also, it shows that his enemies and you— but but also, it shows that his enemies and you know the left ent— enemies and you know the left ent nten— enemies and you know the left ent nten et— enemies and you know the left and much of the— enemies and you know the left and much of the media in the us, you and much of the media in the us, wet knew— and much of the media in the us, wet tnew teettw— and much of the media in the us, you know really is— and much of the media in the us, you know really is so unfair in tetne— you know really is so unfair in tetne et— you know really is so unfair in tetne et new— you know really is so unfair in terms of how they— you know really is so unfair in terms of how they treat trump. twen — terms of how they treat trump. even even his— terms of how they treat trump. even even his critics will admit tnet— even even his critics will admit tnet .— even even his critics will admit tnet . tnt— even even his critics will admit tnet . tnt wet— even even his critics will admit that . and you saw— even even his critics will admit that . and you saw that with the that. and you saw that with the ann — that. and you saw that with the ann ttegg— that. and you saw that with the alvin bragg case. _ that. and you saw that with the alvin bragg case. that plays out positively. it does, yeah.- positively. it does, yeah. i ne— positively. it does, yeah. i mean, he was— positively. it does, yeah. i mean, he was only- g ttiiyt it does, yeah. i mean, he was only up ten points on mean, he was only up ten points en teeentte— mean, he was only up ten points en nesentte . — mean, he was only up ten points on desantis . what— mean, he was only up ten points on desantis . �*ftt“t?tg git on desantis. what have they got to do to make pants to increase his standing? because he's he's he's in third place, isn't he in terms of those polls. yeah. and a long way. a long third place.

yeah and i think it's something important to remember. you can't just look at the national polls. you have to look at the state polls, iowa and new hampshire and carolina for no and south carolina for no republican ever won the republican has ever won the nomination winning south nomination without winning south carolina. but but iowa is important because it's the first one. know , mike huckabee in one. you know, mike huckabee in 2008, santorum in 2012, ted 2008, rick santorum in 2012, ted cruz in 2016, all were polling at 3 to 5. at this point in the cycle. and they all three of them won iowa . and pence might them won iowa. and pence might do very well in iowa because you have many more evangelical christians there. so the conservative base in iowa is different than the conservative base on the east coast. so he could really do well in iowa. but it's all about ron desantis. so, you know, if mike pence is stuck in the single digits, you would hope that he drops out before iowa . and i think you before iowa. and i think you could say about all the could say that about all the candidates. what would you for? tene— candidates. what would you for? tenelneen— candidates. what would you for? tenelneen t— candidates. what would you for? hopeimean, i look— i i i what would you for? hope mean, i look back to the hope i mean, i look back to the netewen— hope i mean, i look back to the netewen tewe— hope i mean, i look back to the halcyon days, the— hope i mean, i look back to the halcyon days, the republicans. wnet— halcyon days, the republicans. wnet-tnewe— halcyon days, the republicans. what-know? i— halcyon days, the republicans. what know? i mean, as what do i know? i mean, as teetet— what do i know? i mean, asi isabel—watching isabel said, we are watching teen— isabel said, we are watching teen-ett— isabel said, we are watching ten-ttt te- isabel said, we are watching from-but to me- isabel said, we are watching

from but to me and from abroad. but to me and i tte— from abroad. but to me and i ttte etttwtng— from abroad. but to me and i like studying these things and teettng— like studying these things and teettng tent.— like studying these things and looking back, it— like studying these things and looking back, it wasn't much better— looking back, it wasn't much tettet tnen— looking back, it wasn't much better than reagan, was it? i tneee— better than reagan, was it? i mean, those were the halcyon, of course. i mean, you— mean, those were the halcyon, of course. “ course. i mean, you know, i think all of all the conservatives, including myself think all of all the clookvatives, including myself think all of all the clook vative at including myself think all of all the clookvativeat reagan|g myself think all of all the clookvativeat reagan asnyself think all of all the clookvativeat reagan as thezlf , look back at reagan as the mother of all conservative presidents . and i think there's presidents. and i think there's still a of that element. still a lot of that element. you'll see complaints about, hey, living in the 80s, hey, you're living in the 80s, but , you know, nature of but, you know, the nature of conservatives is to conserve. it's quite natural to be an edmund burke kind of conservative. it's not broken. don't fix it . and i think many don't fix it. and i think many could argue that, you know, reagan , those lessons are still reagan, those lessons are still quite relevant today. and so it might not have the same tactical appeal locations, but conservative or, you know, historically , you know, you historically, you know, you really can't top reagan. so it's a good point, amy. and the republicans, i mean, when you look against an opponent or a candidate , it i mean, sure . joe candidate, it i mean, sure. joe biden, is that the best- l “ joe biden, is that the best the neneetete— biden, is that the best the democrats can _ biden, is that the best the democrats can offer? i think my dog could beat joe biden. anyone

2024 it really is a gift. and i don't think it's going to happen that way. i mean, if yes, if the election were tomorrow, it would be biden and trump. but i don't think that's the case. the democrats can't be serious about running him. perhaps he doesn't want to be a lame duck president for so he's going to for two years. so he's going to wait later this looks wait till later this looks a little bit like 1968 when lyndon johnson was running right up until, in fact, he won iowa in new hampshire. and yet he knew he couldn't win. biden's in much worse shape than than lbj was. he's in worse shape than really any incumbent president, much worse than trump, frankly. your choice, joe. your choice is i wettt— choice, joe. your choice is i wettt nene— choice, joe. your choice is i would hope it's— choice, joe. your choice is i would hope it's i- choice, joe. your choice is i would hope it's i mean, i really tte— would hope it's i mean, i really ttte ten— would hope it's i mean, i really like ron desantis.— would hope it's i mean, i really like ron desantis. i'm as sleepy as biden. like ron desantis. i'm as sleepy ee ttten. ttn— like ron desantis. i'm as sleepy as biden. i'm calling— like ron desantis. i'm as sleepy as biden. i'm calling him- like ron desantis. i i'm calling him joe, as biden. i'm calling him joe. tnet-e— as biden. i'm calling him joe. that's right. i've— as biden. i'm calling him joe. that's right. i've been- i i'm calling him joe, ” t; i've been called that's right. i've been called ett— that's right. i've been called worse. but on desantis, it's just quickly, i've just answered the question. you're saying? desantis yes. desantis i'd the question. you're saying? desesay yes. desantis i'd the question. you're saying? desesay i’es. desantis i'd the question. you're saying? desesay i would santis i'd the question. you're saying? desesay i would loves i'd the question. you're saying? desesay i would love tim i'd the question. you're saying? desesay i would love tim scott. also say i would love tim scott. i would love mike pence. i would tewe— i would love mike pence. i would tewe enwene— i would love mike pence. i would love anyone, anyone but trump wett— love anyone, anyone but trump wett. t— love anyone, anyone but trump well, i wouldn't— love anyone, anyone but trump well, i wouldn't necessarily say tnt.— well, i wouldn't necessarily say tnet. t— well, i wouldn't necessarily say tnet. t nneen— well, i wouldn't necessarily say

tnet. t t— well, i wouldn't necessarily say that. i mean, i would support tttnn— that. i mean, i would support tttnn tt— that. i mean, i would support tntnn tt ne— that. i mean, i would support trump if he wins,— that. i mean, i would support trump if he wins, but i would nten— trump if he wins, but i would nten ntetet— trump if he wins, but i would nten ntetet e— trump if he wins, but i would much prefer a younger candidate. you much prefer a younger candidate. vet knew— much prefer a younger candidate. vet tnew .— much prefer a younger candidate. you know , whether— much prefer a younger candidate. you know , whether it's desantis, you know, whether it's desantis, wtttt — you know, whether it's desantis, wtttt tetew— you know, whether it's desantis, wtttt tetew .— you know, whether it's desantis, nikki haley , tim— you know, whether it's desantis, nikki haley , tim scott, mike nikki haley, tim scott, mike tente— nikki haley, tim scott, mike tenee .— nikki haley, tim scott, mike tenee . wet— nikki haley, tim scott, mike pence , you know, this is a you pence, you know, this is a you knew— pence, you know, this is a you knew .— pence, you know, this is a you knew . tte— pence, you know, this is a you know , it's time— pence, you know, this is a you know , it's time for- pence, you know, this is a you know , it's time for a new know, it's time for a new genetetten— know, it's time for a new genetetten. t— know, it's time for a new generation. i know that's kind of generation. i know that's kind et tnne.— generation. i know that's kind of cliche, but— generation. i know that's kind of cliche, but it's— generation. i know that's kind of cliche, but it's very true. ana.— of cliche, but it's very true. tnt. wet — of cliche, but it's very true. and, you know,— of cliche, but it's very true. and, you know, you can you can be ennteetettwe— and, you know, you can you can be appreciative of— and, you know, you can you can be appreciative of what trump did be appreciative of what trump ttt tn— be appreciative of what trump ttt tn tte— be appreciative of what trump did in his administration and yet did in his administration and wet ettt— did in his administration and wet etttt te— did in his administration and wet etttt be e— did in his administration and yet still be a critic of him as wet.— yet still be a critic of him as wet. ttt— yet still be a critic of him as wet. ttt ee— yet still be a critic of him as well. but so, you— yet still be a critic of him as well. but so, you know, i surely ten-t— well. but so, you know, i surely ten-t tntnt— well. but so, you know, i surely don't think there's— well. but so, you know, i surely don't think there's any hope for the so—called_ don't think there's any hope for the so—called moderate republican— the so—called moderate republican ,_ the so—called moderate republican , which is a throwback republican, which is a throwback to republican, which is a throwback te tne— republican, which is a throwback te tne eetnttw— republican, which is a throwback to the country club— republican, which is a throwback to the country club republican, the establishment republican . the establishment republican. tnet-e— the establishment republican. tnet-e — the establishment republican. that's over. that's not about tttnn. — that's over. that's not about tttnn. tnet-e— that's over. that's not about trump. that's about the change in trump. that's about the change tn tne— trump. that's about the change tn tne nenw.— trump. that's about the change in the party, starting with the tee— in the party, starting with the tee tettw— in the party, starting with the tea party-2010.— in the party, starting with the tea party 2010. so don't tea party in 2010. so i don't tntnt— tea party in 2010. so i don't think there's— tea party in 2010. so i don't think there's any— tea party in 2010. so i don't think there's any chance that, you— think there's any chance that, wet-hegen— think there's any chance that,- you-hogan-maryland think there's any chance that,- you - hogan - maryland or you know, hogan from maryland or eenetntng— you know, hogan from maryland or eenetntng-wtn.— you know, hogan from maryland or something-win. but- you know, hogan from maryland or something win. but any of something could win. but any of tneee— something could win. but any of tneee new— something could win. but any of these new generation conservatives , again, i would it conservatives, again, i would it teete— conservatives, again, i would it teete tte— conservatives, again, i would it looks like desantis is clearly tne— looks like desantis is clearly tne meet— looks like desantis is clearly the most obvious choice. he won his the most obvious choice. he won nte eteetten— the most obvious choice. he won his election, his— the most obvious choice. he won his election, his re—election in ttente— his election, his re—election in ttente tw— his election, his re—election in ttente tw zo— his election, his re—election in florida by 20 points. that's a nttnte— florida by 20 points. that's a nttnte etete— florida by 20 points. that's a purple state where it was a nttnte— purple state where it was a nttnte etete— purple state where it was a purple state. he's made it a red etete— purple state. he's made it a red etete. se— purple state. he's made it a red etete. se. wet— purple state. he's made it a red state. so, you know, from a from

for state. so, you know, from a from tet nenw— state. so, you know, from a from for many reasons, i— state. so, you know, from a from for many reasons, i think nesentte— for many reasons, i think desantis has— for many reasons, i think desantis has the best shot. i teettw— desantis has the best shot. i teettw tte— desantis has the best shot. i really like him.— desantis has the best shot. i really like him. and i think wet-tt— really like him. and i think wet-tt eee— really like him. and i think wet-tt tt— really like him. and i think you'll see it in— really like him. and i think you'll see it in the polls. and ne-e— you'll see it in the polls. and ne-e ntetet— you'll see it in the polls. and ne-e ntetet tn— you'll see it in the polls. and he's picked up 14— you'll see it in the polls. and he's picked up 14 points on tttnn— he's picked up 14 points on tttnn tn— he's picked up 14 points on trump in iowa— he's picked up 14 points on trump in iowa in the last three eeet— trump in iowa in the last three eeet se— trump in iowa in the last three weeks. so that's— trump in iowa in the last three weeks. so that's a— trump in iowa in the last three weeks. so that's a good sign. sav— weeks. so that's a good sign. sew ttet— weeks. so that's a good sign. sew ttet te— weeks. so that's a good sign. say that he seems— weeks. so that's a good sign. say that he seems the- weeks. so that's a good sign. say that he seems the reluctant president, if it was mrs. desantis it might a desantis standing, it might be a different he i don't different thing. but he i don't feel he wants but feel like he wants it. but that's a whole nother discussion. yeah, that's another day. but is fascinating. just day. but it is fascinating. just even—tte- day. but it is fascinating. just even—tte netl even though it's not it's not teet. — even though it's not it's not teet. tt— even though it's not it's not our beat. g he's crushing our beat. it is. he's crushing it our beat. it is. he's crushing tt en— our beat. it is. he's crushing tt en ee— our beat. it is. he's crushing tt en ee nenw— our beat. g he's crushing it on so many measures. you knew.— it on so many measures. you knew. ne— it on so many measures. you knew. ne ent— it on so many measures. you know, he and the— it on so many measures. you know, he and the press will etgte— know, he and the press will etgte ttet— know, he and the press will argue that he— know, he and the press will argue that he doesn't have the neteenetttw— argue that he doesn't have the neteenetttw-e— argue that he doesn't have the personality-a.of- personality that's a lot of nteee— personality that's a lot of press narrative, frankly. you knew.— press narrative, frankly. you knew—ntnl press narrative, frankly. you. know,_him last know, someone asked him last weet—tewe- know, someone asked him lasti weet— tewe wnw week when he was in iowa why ten-t— week when he was in iowa why tent-tett— week when he was in iowa why ten-t-tett te— week when he was in iowa why don't-talk to the - week when he was in iowa why don't talk to the voters? don't you talk to the voters? vet— don't you talk to the voters? vet ten-t— don't you talk to the voters? you don't seem— don't you talk to the voters? you don't seem to connect with tne— you don't seem to connect with tte—wee— you don't seem to connect with the was surrounded by the voters. he was surrounded by zoo— the voters. he was surrounded by zoo-ten— the voters. he was surrounded by zoo-tnen ent— the voters. he was surrounded by 200.them and he— the voters. he was surrounded by 200 them and he was chatting 200 of them and he was chatting wttn— 200 of them and he was chatting wttn ten.— 200 of them and he was chatting wttn tnen. vet— 200 of them and he was chatting with them. you know, and it's ttnt— with them. you know, and it's nnt-ett— with them. you know, and it's kind-odd ball- with them. you know, and it's kind odd ball question. so kind of an odd ball question. so i kind of an odd ball question. so t tntnt— kind of an odd ball question. so t tntnt e— kind of an odd ball question. so t tntnt e tet— kind of an odd ball question. so i think a lot-that— kind of an odd ball question. so i think a lot that he'll i think a lot of that he'll nett— i think a lot of that he'll he'll overcome. we'll sort that ett. —ttnt- he'll overcome. we'll sort that. out. _find yourself out. greg, do you find yourself in and living here at the in london and living here at the moment? 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life in chicago, so i kind of eett— life in chicago, so i kind of call chicago— life in chicago, so i kind of call chicago hometown. the city's— call chicago hometown. the ettw-e teen— call chicago hometown. the city's been here— call chicago hometown. the city's been here for- call chicago hometown. the city's been here for eight years. this home. my kind years. so this is home. my kind of tongue. chicago is, of course, windy. it's my kind of tongue. chicago is, of co town windy. it's my kind of tongue. chicago is, of co town quotineg. it's my kind of tongue. chicago is, of co town quoting french.ty kind of tongue. chicago is, of co town quoting french. it'sind of town quoting french. it's squanders us there you go, squanders us all. there you go, doris that, course, doris day sung that, of course, your to the windy your idol back to the windy city. windy city is mighty city. the windy city is mighty pretty . we tend sing our way pretty. we tend to sing our way through the news. that's okay. at through the news. that's okay. ttt-enew. — through the news. that's okay. at - show. what - through the news. that's okay. at - show. what are l through the news. that's okay.| at-show. what are we at times the show. what are we eeetnge— at times the show. what are we eeetnge — at times the show. what are we eeetnge vet— at times the show. what are we eeetnge vet get— at times the show. what are we seeing? you get to— at times the show. what are we seeing? /tit. gi i i i seeing? you get to come back and seeing? you get to come back and see us as race. as the race see us as the race. as the race progresses. great see you. progresses. great to see you. thank much indeed. thank you very much indeed. stay us. we'll be back with stay with us. we'll be back with more songs and we'll also be discussing rwanda discussing why the rwanda flights taking off flights could start taking off by david mellor emma by september david mellor emma burnell papers .

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eteettng— front pages. here's how they're eteettng tn— front pages. here's how they're eteettng tn en— front pages. here's how they're stacking up on this wednesday netntng— stacking up on this wednesday netntng-tne— stacking up on this wednesday morning the times leading morning and the times is leading wttn— morning and the times is leading wttn-tenw-e— morning and the times is leading with harry's political with prince harry's political etteet— with prince harry's political attack government with prince harry's political attack-government he with prince harry's political attacievidencegovernment he with prince harry's political attacievidence against ent he with prince harry's political attacievidence against the he with prince harry's political attacievidence against the mirror gave evidence against the mirror newenenet—ttgnl newspaper group at the high cettt— newspaper group at the high cettt-eewe- newspaper group at the high court-says the- newspaper group at the high- court-says the bombing court telegraph says the bombing of court telegraph says the bombing et ttet— court telegraph says the bombing of that ukrainian— court telegraph says the bombing of that ukrainian dam would a of that ukrainian dam would be a tew— of that ukrainian dam would be a tew tet— of that ukrainian dam would be a new low for russia— of that ukrainian dam would be a new low for russia if they did it. new low for russia if they did tt. ttet-e— new low for russia if they did it. that's the _ new low for russia if they did it. that's the prime minister eneettng— it. that's the prime minister eneettng . — it. that's the prime minister speaking . here's- it. that's the prime minister speaking . ti”ti speaking. here's the express. it's focusing on the game changing new weight loss drug aimed at slimming down the nation. and we will be speaking to the health secretary in the next ten minutes about that very thing. and indeed, we'll be tteeteetng— thing. and indeed, we'll be discussing.on_ thing. and indeed, we'll be discussinglon our- “3 and indeed, we'll be discussing on our newspaper discussing it on our newspaper nenew-etew- discussing it on our newspaper review,-about to- discussing it on our newspaper review, about to come. review, which is about to come. tneneetet— review, which is about to come. inspector clueless— review, which is about to come. inspector clueless star inspector clueless, the star eewe— inspector clueless, the star eewee-e— inspector clueless, the star says- are failing - inspector clueless, the star says are failing to solve says police are failing to solve a says police are failing to solve e etngte— says police are failing to solve a single burglary— says police are failing to solve a single burglary in almost half of neighbourhoods in england and weee.— of neighbourhoods in england and wetee. se— of neighbourhoods in england and wales. so there— of neighbourhoods in england and wales. so there it— of neighbourhoods in england and wales. so there it is . detective wales. so there it is. detective wett— wales. so there it is. detective wett te— wales. so there it is. detective wett te gttte— wales. so there it is. detective work is quite time— wales. so there it is. detective work is quite time consuming. tetng— work is quite time consuming. tetng e— work is quite time consuming. being a detective— work is quite time consuming. “g ii yeah, but you being a detective. yeah, but you can being a detective. yeah, but you new tt— being a detective. yeah, but you can see how it takes— “g ii yeah, but you can see how it takes time. it tetee— can see how it takes time. it takes resources— can see how it takes time. it takes resources and they're etwtetetw— takes resources and they're obviously not— takes resources and they're obviously not being invested in. ttet-e— obviously not being invested in. tnet-e tne— obviously not being invested in. that's the thing— obviously not being invested in. that's the thing crime pays tneee— that's the thing crime pays tneee tewe.— that's the thing crime pays these days. we've got emma ettnet— these days. we've got emma tttnett ent— these days. we've got emma burnell and we've got david wetter— burnell and we've got david ttettet ent— burnell and we've got david mellor and they— burnell and we've got david mellor and they have those

newenenet— mellor and they have those newspaper stories. david prince tenw— newspaper stories. david prince tenw ewen— newspaper stories. david prince harry over front— newspaper stories. david prince harry over front of— newspaper stories. david prince harry over front of most of them tnte— harry over front of most of them we netntng— harry over front of most of them we netntng .— harry over front of most of them this morning . you've gone for this morning. you've gone for tne— this morning. you've gone for tne tetegtenn. — this morning. you've gone for the telegraph. yeah well, it eettt— the telegraph. yeah well, it eettt newe— the telegraph. yeah well, it could have been any of the ettete— could have been any of the etnete. ttt— could have been any of the others, but what- could have been any of the others, but what the telegraph are others, but what the telegraph nettng— others, but what the telegraph are making the— others, but what the telegraph are making the point that that tenw— are making the point that that tenw newer— are making the point that that harry never stops— are making the point that that harry never stops flogging royal etenee. — harry never stops flogging royal etenee. se— harry never stops flogging royal stories. so how— harry never stops flogging royal stories. so how can— harry never stops flogging royal stories. i?“ stories. so how can he take the moral high ground with paul burrell? what do they mean, newt.— burrell? what do they mean, newt. by— burrell? what do they mean, david, by flogging _ ””ti..7 what do they mean, david, by flogging royal stories ? i david, by flogging royal stories 7 t nneen— david, by flogging royal stories ? i mean, that— david, by flogging royal stories ? i mean, that sounds as if he's eetttng— ? i mean, that sounds as if he's eetttng tnen— ? i mean, that sounds as if he's selling them to— ? i mean, that sounds as if he's selling them to the— ? i mean, that sounds as if he's selling them to the newspapers. tnew-te— selling them to the newspapers. tnew-te tetttng— selling them to the newspapers. they're talking about his books and they're talking about his books ent tte— they're talking about his books and his talks— they're talking about his books and his talks. _ they're talking about his books and his talks. i— they're talking about his books and his talks. i think that's what they mean. i mean, they're not necessarily saying he rings up the way barrel might have up the way the barrel might have done, think what they're done, but i think what they're saying is that harry makes his living out of telling the wider pubuc living out of telling the wider public things about his family. dodi that no one who had any real concern for his family or for his own reputation would have done. but i think harry is sort of slightly alice in blunderland, isn't he? he's he can't not seem to grasp why

people have low opinion of him and what this is proving is that harry is just he's just lost the plot in terms of where his credibility is and what people will really feel about a prince of the blood behaving as he does and wanting to keep all his titles and give his kids the titles and give his kids the titles and give his kids the titles and heaven knows what he wants to give to meghan. but at but he's a renegade and that's all over all of the papers. and of course they're enjoying it, aren't they. yeah, they're loving it. see does that mean tnen— loving it. see does that mean tnen en— loving it. see does that mean tnen tnte— loving it. see does that mean then can this fella— “g g does that mean then can this fella actually wtne— then can this fella actually win? because— then can this fella actually win? because if— then can this fella actually win? because if he puts forward his win? because if he puts forward tte-nett— win? because if he puts forward tte-ne-tt te— win? because if he puts forward his he'll be mocked at his story, he'll be mocked at it. his story, he'll be mocked at t. tett— his story, he'll be mocked at t. te-tt te— his story, he'll be mocked at it. he'll be accused of making it. he'll be accused of making tt tn.— it. he'll be accused of making tt tn. ne— it. he'll be accused of making tt tn. ne wet— it. he'll be accused of making it up. do you think he's been wtee— it up. do you think he's been getng— it up. do you think he's been getng te— it up. do you think he's been wise going to court? i mean, ne-e— wise going to court? i mean, ne-e tnwen— wise going to court? i mean, ne-e tnwen by— wise going to court? i mean, he's driven by this. he's twen— he's driven by this. he's driven. he's— he's driven by this. he's driven. he's he's saying how tnte— driven. he's he's saying how we nee— driven. he's he's saying how this has affected— driven. he's he's saying how this has affected his life from wnen— this has affected his life from wnenlwee— this has affected his life from when .was _yeah- when he was born. yeah absolutely. _ when he was born. yeah absolutely. i- when he was born. yeah absolutely. “ when he was born. yeah- absolutely. i mean, i think it's worth remembering that there are around plaintiffs in this around 100 plaintiffs in this case. harry is just the high

profile one that we're all talking about. but there are lots and lots of other people. and the thing about suing the newspapers over these phone hacking things is most of the time it's incredibly time it's in incredibly expensive, consuming and expensive, time consuming and very difficult to do. so it's taken someone with harry's resources to actually have the tenacity and just go, you know, you know what this is now my life's mission. and i think from the outside, sometimes that can feel exactly as david was saying, like it's obsessive, but sometimes you need to get obsessed and stay obsessed. as john irving wrote in a wonderful book called the hotel new hampshire. you know , it's going hampshire. you know, it's going to take one person who's got the time, energy and resource to actually say , no, hang on, actually say, no, hang on, something really bad happened here. and those 99 people behind him didn't have those resources. i think the problem is i mean, a lot of us can see some bad things did indeed happen to him. and, you know, although he's teen— and, you know, although he's teen netn— and, you know, although he's been born with— and, you know, although he's been born with a— and, you know, although he's been born with a silver spoon, ne-e— been born with a silver spoon, ne-e net— been born with a silver spoon, ne-e net e— been born with a silver spoon, he's had a few— been born with a silver spoon, he's had a few tragedies along the he's had a few tragedies along tne wew. — he's had a few tragedies along the way. .trouble- he's had a few tragedies along the way. trouble is whether the way. the trouble is whether or the way. the trouble is whether

et-ne-e— the way. the trouble is whether et-ne-e teen— the way. the trouble is whether or-he's been able- the way. the trouble is whether or he's been able to build or not he's been able to build a eennetttng— or not he's been able to build a compelling-based- or not he's been able to build a compelling based on compelling case based on ewtenee— compelling case based on ewtenee .— compelling case based on evidence . and— compelling case based on evidence . and i think that was evidence. and i think that was tegtnntng— evidence. and i think that was beginning crumble yesterday. beginning to crumble yesterday. i i beginning to crumble yesterday. t—tlcene- beginning to crumble yesterday. t—tlcene backl beginning to crumble yesterday. i_i.come back toj i mean, again, i do come back to the that he's just one the fact that he's just one witness out of many, many more. what harry's done is open the door for people who don't have his money and resources. door for people who don't have his money and resources . and i his money and resources. and i think in terms of the case, it was quite interesting in what was quite interesting in what was happening in court yesterday . harry was talking on a much broader emotional level, the mirrors lawyers were kind of trying to get him down to detail, and that wasn't happening. so there was definitely a legal battle going on between narrative head and heart. okay, on between narrative head and heart . okay, there'll be lots heart. okay, there'll be lots et— heart. okay, there'll be lots more of this— heart. okay, there'll be lots more of this and— okay, there'll be lots more of this and full coverage tntetgnett— more of this and full coverage throughout the— more of this and full coverage throughout the day here on gb tewe. — throughout the day here on gb tewe. newt.— throughout the day here on gb news. david, this— throughout the day here on gb news. david, this arade dam tenttng— news. david, this arade dam tenttng tn— news. david, this arade dam bombing in ukraine. well geetneee— bombing in ukraine. well goodness me,— bombing in ukraine. well goodness me, it's front page of the goodness me, it's front page of tne tetegtenn. — goodness me, it's front page of tne tetegtenn. t— goodness me, it's front page of the telegraph. i mean, it's etnntw— the telegraph. i mean, it's simply appalling, which is why i een-t— simply appalling, which is why i een-t get— simply appalling, which is why i een-t get tee— simply appalling, which is why i can't get too excited about tettw— can't get too excited about tettw ent— can't get too excited about holly and phil- can't get too excited about holly and phil and the reality is holly and phil and the reality te ttet— holly and phil and the reality te tnet tnte— holly and phil and the reality is that this shows that there's netntng—

is that this shows that there's nothing russia— is that this shows that there's nothing russia won't do. ' “ti nothing russia won't do. and of tte— nothing russia won't do. and of course, the next— nothing russia won't do. and of course, the next thing on the agenda will be blowing up this nuclear power station . but the nuclear power station. but the reality is that what has happened here is an environmental catastrophe for ukraine and i don't see where this is going to end. now it's no easy ending. russia are plainly not going to pull back. they're not going to be able to complete this. what they thought was going to be a very easy invasion of ukraine. and i find it very hard to know. we're sitting back and watching, whereas putin is getting away with . there was a time when you with. there was a time when you didn't it was a war crime to attack civilians. it was a war crime to attack civilian on things like this. this dam. and now there's no there's no law and there's no rules. two weeks ago, we were celebrating- two weeks ago, we were celebrating the nenttetete—

ago, we were celebrating the dambusters raid— ago, we were celebrating the dambusters raid . and no one dambusters raid. and no one tette— dambusters raid. and no one tette etett— dambusters raid. and no one talks about that— dambusters raid. and no one talks about that being a war tnt— talks about that being a war crime. and yet— talks about that being a war crime. and yet it's the same same effects,— crime. and yet it's the same same effects, the- crime. and yet it's the same same effects, the same consequences- same effects, the same consequences . same effects, the same consequences. same effects, the same- consequences . well, of course, consequences. well, of course, it was then a real a real war. but yeah, of course people do things in in a war. but the things in in a war. but the thing about it, this is, is that this is i mean, the dambusters was a heroic action. but yes, i suppose if you looked at it in a technical legal sense, you could say it was the wrong thing to do because a lot of people would have been killed. and as civilians in all of that. but that was a war against and it was as well advanced. this is not i mean, this is just putin on a frolic of his own thinking. he had an easy win and not being prepared to understand that he hasn't had an easy win. and the last thing, because i'm outstaying my welcome if i'm not careful, is that it's whoever replaces putin as someone will perhaps sooner rather than

later, they'll be worse than putin. there isn't a goody in this fight . okay. we'll have this fight. okay. we'll have more from david— �*7 3“ okay. we'll have more from david bunnell . sorry, more from david bunnell. sorry, newt— more from david bunnell. sorry, newt wetter.— more from david bunnell. sorry, david mellor. and— more from david bunnell. sorry, david mellor. and emma burnell. and david mellor. and emma burnell. tnt wttn— david mellor. and emma burnell. tnt wttn enw— david mellor. and emma burnell. and with any luck,— david mellor. and emma burnell. and with any luck, we'll have tne— and with any luck, we'll have tne teettn— and with any luck, we'll have the health secretary in just a nnennent — the health secretary in just a nnennent we— the health secretary in just a moment. we have a little pause teet— moment. we have a little pause teet ettet— moment. we have a little pause back after this— moment. we have a little pause back after this .—

look, one of the things we're going to do when we talk to the health secretary very shortly is talking new slimming talking about the new slimming drugs front page the drugs making front page of the express. the prime express. emma here and the prime minister says is game changer minister says is a game changer for i don't know what it's called . it's got a very strange called. it's got a very strange recovery. it's called. it's got a very strange recovery . it's not one of the recovery. it's not one of the we gette— recovery. it's not one of the ones we govie it's- i 3 it's not one of the ones we govie it's not one of tne— ones we govie it's not one of tne nee— ones we govie it's not one of tne we— ones we govie it's not one of the ones we spoke about the wteneet— the ones we spoke about the michael gove,_ the ones we spoke about the michael gove, not michael gove . michael gove, not michael gove. it's michael gove, not michael gove. tte t— michael gove, not michael gove. tte t tntnt— michael gove, not michael gove. tte t tntnt tte— michael gove, not michael gove. it's i think it's one— michael gove, not michael gove. it's i think it's one of— michael gove, not michael gove. it's i think it's one of the- it's i think it's one of the ones that the celebrities were

were taking. look i had weight loss surgery almost exactly ten years ago now. and it changed my life. so i am in favour of this kind of intervention. but the thing is, is if it just becomes just this kind of intervention and nothing more, there's so much more that needs to be done. well, to be clear, so this is a two year trial. there saying ttet— two year trial. there saying we tt— two year trial. there saying we tt nee— two year trial. there saying that it has to— two year trial. there saying that it has to be— g” there saying that it has to be done in conjunction— that it has to be done in conjunction with a very strict ent— conjunction with a very strict exercise and diet— conjunction with a very strict exercise and diet regime and wtt— exercise and diet regime and wttt entw— exercise and diet regime and wttt entw te— exercise and diet regime and will only be prescribed on that teete— will only be prescribed on that teete te— will only be prescribed on that teete te tne— will only be prescribed on that basis to the sample . basis to the sample. absolutely. - basis to the sample. absolutely. and - basis to the sample. absolutely. and exercise and diet are important . but the diet are important. but the thing is, is when you get to the point of obesity where you need that kind of intervention, there's something going on beyond the fact that you're not eating right and exercising . eating right and exercising. there's a reason behind all of that disordered and it's a disordered living thing. it's a mental health thing . and you've mental health thing. and you've got to do the work here before anything can change below the head. okay. well, we're going to tnt— head. okay. well, we're going to ttnt ett— head. okay. well, we're going to ttnt ett new— head. okay. well, we're going to find out now from _ head. okay. well, we're going to find out now from the- i well, we're going to find out now from the health

seetetetw— find out now from the health secretary himself about this, stewe— secretary himself about this, steve barclay,— secretary himself about this, steve barclay, a— secretary himself about this, steve barclay, a very good netntng— steve barclay, a very good netntng te— steve barclay, a very good morning to you. - steve barclay, a very good morning to you. thanks for tnente— morning to you. thanks for tnente tet— morning to you. thanks for thanks for-to- morning to you. thanks for thanks for-to usi morning to you. thanks for. thanks for-to us the thanks for speaking to us the tnte— thanks for speaking to us the we netntng— thanks for speaking to us the this morning. and this is this morning. and this drug is nettng— this morning. and this drug is making headline— this morning. and this drug is making headline news for you tetew— making headline news for you tetew ent— making headline news for you tetew ent we— making headline news for you today and we hope it is a game enenget— today and we hope it is a game enenget .— today and we hope it is a game enenget . we— today and we hope it is a game changer . we hope— today and we hope it is a game changer. we hope it helps the wte— changer. we hope it helps the we ent— changer. we hope it helps the we ent tt— changer. we hope it helps the nhs and it helps— changer. we hope it helps the nhs and it helps the individuals tnwewet— nhs and it helps the individuals tnwewet .— nhs and it helps the individuals involved . what— nhs and it helps the individuals involved . what are your hopes involved. what are your hopes for involved. what are your hopes tet tt— involved. what are your hopes tet t e — involved. what are your hopes for it .7 well,— involved. what are your hopes for it .7 well, it's— involved. what are your hopes for it ? �*ftttiii g g for it? well, it's hugely exciting . it's about as exciting. it's about as embracing the latest innovation. we know that obesity really causes health harm. 9 in 10 type two diabetics are overweight . two diabetics are overweight. it's the second biggest cause of cancer after smoking is obese . cancer after smoking is obese. motty. and we also know that many people struggle. they struggle to lose their weight. they struggle to keep the weight off it's looking at off. so it's about looking at how we innovate. and it's not just in terms of this. we've got a pilot in wolverhampton looking at incentivising healthy behaviours. it's looking at having these injections alongside thinking about diet and lifestyle as well. but it's saying how do we take the latest innovations in health care,

ensure we use that to target the big health risks? and we know that obesity is a real health challenge and it's a very exciting development to have this pilot to look at working in effectively, because if we can get obesity reduced , that will get obesity reduced, that will have huge impact to the nhs as a whole, right? so this is this is a 40,000,002 year trial and wegovy is designed to suppress the appetite and reduce weight loss by up to perhaps at least 10. and the question is , do we 10. and the question is, do we newe— 10. and the question is, do we newe enw— 10. and the question is, do we newe enw tn— 10. and the question is, do we have any in the— �*0 and the question is, do we have any in the uk? i know there ntettene— have any in the uk? i know there were problems with— have any in the uk? i know there were problems with building up supply— were problems with building up supply -_ were problems with building up etnntw . wnen— were problems with building up supply . when will this come into supply. when will this come into tene— supply. when will this come into tetee ?— supply. when will this come into tetee t we— supply. when will this come into tetee t we — supply. when will this come into tetee t we se— supply. when will this come into force ? no so it's— supply. when will this come into force ? no g ” force? no so it's part of our discussions that we bring this in later this year, but it's part of the signal to the suppliers that this is something the nhs is going to lead on. the funding is in place. we've been having those discussions with manufacturers. it is at the cutting edge and we want to make sure that the nhs is at the front of the pack and it's a very exciting development, but it's one alongside a range of

other measures that we're taking and looking at. for and we're looking at. for example, pilot in example, the pilot in wolverhampton and we've brought in measures in terms of in other measures in terms of calorie disclosure to better inform patients on menus. so there's a range of things we're doing, but this is a really exciting new technology and new drugs that are available and we want to make sure they're available to people within the nhs at the earliest opportunity . and can i ask, is this just etett— . and can i ask, is this just etett ttwtng— . and can i ask, is this just about trying to— and can i ask, is this just about trying to help the nhs and the about trying to help the nhs and tne nteeette— about trying to help the nhs and the pressure on— about trying to help the nhs and the pressure on or— about trying to help the nhs and the pressure on or is this also etett— the pressure on or is this also etett ttwtng— the pressure on or is this also etett ttwtng te— the pressure on or is this also about trying to get people back to about trying to get people back te wett— about trying to get people back te week 7 — about trying to get people back to work ? well,— about trying to get people back to work ? well, it— about trying to get people back to work ? �*ftttiii g g to work? well, it has a big impact in terms of the workplace. we know that staff absence is a big challenge comes at a big cost. we know that obesity has an interaction in terms of mental health and people's wellbeing. so there's a range of health benefits . so range of health benefits. so i've touched on cancer, diabetes and mental health, msc . so and mental health, msc. so obesity really is a big impact on the nhs. we think it costs

around £65 billion to the nhs , around £65 billion to the nhs, but it has, as you say, an impact on the labour market as well. and we're in discussions with the obr as to how we measure the potential of reducing obesity in terms of getting people back into the workplace as well . but it's workplace as well. but it's about empowering patients and we know , as i say, that it has a know, as i say, that it has a big impact people's health if big impact on people's health if they're overweight weight. but people lose that people struggle to lose that weight to keep that off. and weight and to keep that off. and this exciting this is a really exciting development we want to development and we want to make sure nhs at the front of sure the nhs is at the front of the queue in rolling it out. secretary state today we the queue in rolling it out. . secretary-state today we will secretary of state today we will teet— secretary of state today we will teen teen — secretary of state today we will hear from the _ secretary of state today we will hear from the prime minister in weentngten— hear from the prime minister in weentngten .— hear from the prime minister in washington . you— hear from the prime minister in washington . you were talking washington. you were talking etett— washington. you were talking about impacts— washington. you were talking about impacts on the workplace. tnete — about impacts on the workplace. there are. that's— about impacts on the workplace. there are. that's what he's ttwtng— there are. that's what he's ttwtng te— there are. that's what he's ttwtng te newe— there are. that's what he's trying to have an effect on as wet— trying to have an effect on as wet wttn— trying to have an effect on as well with the - trying to have an effect on as well with the american president at well with the american president et very— well with the american president et wetw nten— well with the american president et wetw nten — well with the american president at very much so. ' i well with the american president at very much so. ' at very much so. and obviously the us is our key strategic partner. we've got a range of important discussions that the pm will be having , but that also pm will be having, but that also goes to key challenges we've

seen in the news in recent days. for example, with ukraine and our key alliance there , our our key alliance there, our defence partnership on things like aukus. so there's a range of issues which are part of getting investment into the uk . getting investment into the uk. he'll be talking about a significant programme of investment into uk business. that's great for jobs here. it's also part of our close ties to the us and that's what the discussions today will be focussed on and how serious do you think the prime minister is about what we think could potentially be a real legacy thing for him if he's able to get ball rolling on some get the ball rolling on some sort of global watchdog on i mean, were talking about his mean, we were talking about his own yesterday saying own adviser yesterday saying we've years to get a we've got two years to get a grip this it can start grip on this before it can start replicating itself and effectively humanity. effectively affecting humanity. senous effectively affecting humanity. serious stuff . yeah, it is. and serious stuff. yeah, it is. and i think , you know, there's huge i think, you know, there's huge excitement and opportunity motty with i, i look at that within health care, we've been funding whole series 130 million of pilots through the air labs, things like strokes for example.

we can use ai things like strokes for example. we can use al to treat stroke patients much more quickly. we're seeing quite dramatic benefits to patients through using ai in strokes. i was up at blackpool victoria hospital where they're using ai blackpool victoria hospital where they're using al to pick up cancers that wouldn't be visible to the human eye. extra 20% detection rate on nodes that were too small for people to see. but the ai were too small for people to see. but the al was able to detect and if you can detect it early, obviously the patient outcomes are far better. but alongside there are risks as well to ai. so it's important we don't let those risks cross out the opportunities . we need to the opportunities. we need to look at this internationally to work with partners, including the us, to get the right regulatory framework in place. but there's huge opportunities, as i but there's huge opportunities, asi and but there's huge opportunities, as i and in health care is particularly exciting and just finally, sue gray has been cleared to join the labour party in the autumn. what do you guys tntnt— in the autumn. what do you guys tntnt etett— in the autumn. what do you guys think about that— in the autumn. what do you guys think about that .— in the autumn. what do you guys think about that . _ in the autumn. what do you guys think about that . well,- in the autumn. what do you guys think about that . well, i- “ “ what do you guys think about that . �*ftttiii “< think about that. well, i think there's some leaks and

commentary around that. obviously ministers don't comment on leaks, so i'll wait to see what is officially announced and we'll take it from there. okay. health secretary, tnente— there. okay. health secretary, tnente tet— there. okay. health secretary, thanks for your— ”ti okay. health secretary, thanks for your time this netntng. — thanks for your time this morning. really appreciate it. went— morning. really appreciate it. tnent wet— morning. really appreciate it. tnent wet very— morning. really appreciate it. thank you very much indeed . thank you very much indeed. ttet-e— thank you very much indeed. tnet-e stewe— thank you very much indeed. that's steve barclay there . that's steve barclay there. newt— that's steve barclay there. david mellor— that's steve barclay there. david mellor was giggling in the teetgtetnt— david mellor was giggling in the teetgtetnt te— david mellor was giggling in the background to sue gray there. wnet— background to sue gray there. wnet ttt— background to sue gray there. wnet ttt wet— background to sue gray there. what did you think? �*ftttiii what did you think? well, i tte— what did you think? well, i tte e— what did you think? well, i mean, it's a joke, isn't it? i mean, it's a joke, isn't it? i mean, you know, sue gray is supposed to be the person who passes judgement objectively. it turns out all the while she was objectively passing judgement. she was in the pay of the labour party or about to be in the pay of the labour party and i just don't think that's not how it should be. the authorities had a teet— should be. the authorities had a teet et— should be. the authorities had a teet et tt— should be. the authorities had a teet et tt ent— should be. the authorities had a look at it and reports— i the authorities had a look at it and reports are nee— look at it and reports are nee ene-e— look at it and reports are she's, she's cleared to join. wnet— she's, she's cleared to join. wnet te— she's, she's cleared to join. we to wet— she's, she's cleared to join. what do you think? - she's, she's cleared to join. what do you think? i- she's, she's cleared to join. titit “

giggle about was, you know, politics gets ludicrous . it's politics gets ludicrous. it's ludicrous. most of the- ludicrous. most of the time. it gete— ludicrous. most of the time. it gete exttenetw— ludicrous. most of the time. it gets extremely ludicrous. i mean, barclay— gets extremely ludicrous. i mean, barclay is one of the better.— mean, barclay is one of the better, more— mean, barclay is one of the better, more articulate conservative- better, more articulate conservative ministers. and yet tnew— conservative ministers. and yet tnew-ttntng— conservative ministers. and yet tnew-ttntng ntn- conservative ministers. and yet they lining him up to be they were lining him up to be a nentnte— they were lining him up to be a dominic raab_ they were lining him up to be a dominic raab style bully. and i t— dominic raab style bully. and i mean, i mean, maybe i've got it wteng— mean, i mean, maybe i've got it wteng tn— mean, i mean, maybe i've got it wteng tn nw— mean, i mean, maybe i've got it wrong in my judgement of the tetew.— wrong in my judgement of the tettew. ent— wrong in my judgement of the tettew. ent t— wrong in my judgement of the fellow, and i know him, fellow, and i don't know him, ttt— fellow, and i don't know him, ttt wet— fellow, and i don't know him, ttt wet knew.— fellow, and i don't know him, but you know, he— fellow, and i don't know him, but you know, he seems to be nenw— but you know, he seems to be nenw tntnge— but you know, he seems to be many things, but— but you know, he seems to be many things, but a bully doesn't ite— many things, but a bully doesn't eeenlte ntgn— many things, but a bully doesn't seem .be high .the - many things, but a bully doesn't seem be high the agenda. seem to be high on the agenda. tnt— seem to be high on the agenda. tnt-tnee— seem to be high on the agenda. tnt-tnee ne— seem to be high on the agenda. and-there he was,- seem to be high on the agenda. and there he was, was all and yet there he was, was all ewee-tent— and yet there he was, was all over-front pages. - and yet there he was, was all over front pages. well you over the front pages. well you eettt— over the front pages. well you eettt-enwtetw- over the front pages. well you could anybody look could make anybody look like enwtttng— could make anybody look like anything-suppose- could make anybody look like anything. i suppose that's this in this day and age, you could do of that. guys hold your do all of that. guys hold your horses as my dad used to say. and we'll have his back in about 40 minutes time. so thank you very much indeed for that. we've had a few emails in. i went— we've had a few emails in. i went te— we've had a few emails in. i want to reflect— we've had a few emails in. i want to reflect before we go to the want to reflect before we go to tne tweet.— want to reflect before we go to the break, which— want to reflect before we go to the break, which have been nettng— the break, which have been making chuckle. we were making me chuckle. we were tetttng—tl talking about pe knickers. i een-t— talking about pe knickers. i can't remember— talking about pe knickers. i can't remember were can't remember why we were tetttng— can't remember why we were talking about— can't remember why we were talking about pe— can't remember why we were talking about pe because what wee-centenn— talking about pe because what was-context? _ talking about pe because what was context? i was the context? because you wear talking about wear them. you're talking about wear them. you're talking about we about pe we were talking about pe knickers. david you wouldn't newe— knickers. david you wouldn't newe teen— knickers. david you wouldn't have been-emma. knickers. david you wouldn't have been-emma you have been affected. emma do you remember-affliction- have been affected. emma do you remember affliction of remember the affliction of pe? i

newer-te— remember the affliction of pe? i never-to wear. _ remember the affliction of pe? i never-to wear. do- remember the affliction of pe? i never to wear. ttit never had to wear. do you know i went to a very lefty 80s primary school. i didn't know my school was right wing, but anyway, hazel i remember bridget hazel says, i remember bridget jones's knickers. isabel jones's pe knickers. isabel first as it first year senior school as it wee-tne— first year senior school as it was-the third- first year senior school as it was the third year we was then. in the third year we were allowed— was then. in the third year we were allowed mini pleated were allowed cool mini pleated etttte— were allowed cool mini pleated etne-tt— were allowed cool mini pleated etttteltt wet— were allowed cool mini pleated skirts-if you _your. skirts. but if you forgot your ettt— skirts. but if you forgot your ent-teet- skirts. but if you forgot your skirt,-back in. skirts. but if you forgot your skirt, back in the skirt, you were back in the tntetete— skirt, you were back in the knickers again. - skirt, you were back in the knickers again. �*ftttiii g knickers again. well, aren't they knickers or they shorts they knickers or are they shorts ? they were pants. navy blue nente— ? they were pants. navy blue nente . — 7 they were pants. navy blue pants . t/tit?“ they're like quite pants. yeah. they're like quite big pants. yeah. they're like quite ttg tteenet— pants. yeah. they're like quite big bloomer pants— pants. / they're like quite big bloomer pants aren't they. t hey— big bloomer pants aren't they. tnew wee— big bloomer pants aren't they. they were robust— big bloomer pants aren't they. they were robust pants. titit“ g they were robust pants. i don't tttnt— they were robust pants. i don't tntnt tte— they were robust pants. i don't think the world is coming to an end in with a horrific floods and bombs. this is the end of tne— and bombs. this is the end of tne netn— and bombs. this is the end of tne netn — and bombs. this is the end of the hour. david.— and bombs. this is the end of the hour. david. don't- and bombs. this is the end of the hour. david. don't worry. we're just doing some light entertainment. before we come teet— entertainment. before we come teet wttn— entertainment. before we come teet wttn tne — entertainment. before we come back with the serious- ti “i“ti“ before we come back with the serious news, i een-t— back with the serious news, i een-t get— back with the serious news, i een-t get nw— back with the serious news, i can't get my head around it. twe— can't get my head around it. i've never worn _ can't get my head around it. i've never worn a— can't get my head around it. i've never worn a uniform in school. this this is it was a we know. absolutely. this is what i mean. it was i've literally never uniform in school. never worn a uniform in school. wow fought tooth and nail to wow we fought tooth and nail to stop them trying to have worn a uniform outside school. i mean, i've had the kind of jobs where you'd wear a uniform. yeah > i'm a great believer in uniforms.-

a great believer in uniforms. wnet— a great believer in uniforms. wnet wee— a great believer in uniforms. what were -jobs?- a great believer in uniforms. what were jobs? had what were your jobs? you had a tnttetn. — what were your jobs? you had a tnttetn. t— what were your jobs? you had a uniform. i was.— what were your jobs? you had a uniform. i was. i— what were your jobs? you had a uniform. i was. i had- what were your jobs? you had a uniform. “?ti uniform. i was. i had a waitress job, so i had to wear white top and black skirt. and then did and black skirt. and then i did some sous chefing. and so very. wow. yeah, i never had wear wow. yeah, i never had to wear a uniform in my most challenging job, which was telesales and then door to door sales, which but you did have an but i bet you did have an informal uniform, was informal uniform, which was blazer smart clothes. anyway blazer or smart clothes. anyway , we're to get on blazer or smart clothes. anyway , we're-to get on to- blazer or smart clothes. anyway , we're-to get on to the. , we're going to get on to the serious-you'll- , we're going to get on to the serious you'll pleased serious stuff. you'll be pleased to serious stuff. you'll be pleased te-wew.— serious stuff. you'll be pleased te-wew. newt.- serious stuff. you'll be pleased to- now, david, we - serious stuff. you'll be pleased to now, david, we say to know. now, david, we say geettwe— to know. now, david, we say goodbye-david. - to know. now, david, we say goodbye david. goodbye to david. i know we tewe. — goodbye to david. i know we tewe. -wby_ goodbye to david. i know we love. why we have you love. that's why we have you here. and i'll be back with my normal, awful personal presence. we love bombastic appraisal we love it. bombastic appraisal of world's news agenda from of the world's news agenda from david mellor and more from emma burnell as well as prince harry will on that agenda as will be on that news agenda as the day progresses. he's accused the day progresses. he's accused tne gewetnnent— the day progresses. he's accused the government and— the day progresses. he's accused the government and the- ti? 3 he's accused the government and the british nteee— the government and the british weee-teet— the government and the british press-rock bottom i the government and the british press rock bottom . press of hitting rock bottom. so press of hitting rock bottom. so wetenne— press of hitting rock bottom. so welcome to _ press of hitting rock bottom. so welcome to the— press of hitting rock bottom. so welcome to the programme. it's just after 7:00 on wednesday, the 7th of june. this is breakfast on gb news with eamonn and isabel. thanks for your company leading the news this morning, the duke of sussex will return to the high court after blaming tabloid press

after blaming the tabloid press for inaya inciting hatred, in his words . prince harry says he his words. prince harry says he etttetet— his words. prince harry says he suffered paranoia— his words. prince harry says he suffered paranoia due- “ i prince harry says he suffered paranoia due to alleged nteee— suffered paranoia due to alleged press intrusion,— suffered paranoia due to alleged press intrusion, losing friendships— press intrusion, losing friendships which impacted his teenege— friendships which impacted his teenege weete— friendships which impacted his teenege weete . — friendships which impacted his teenage years . otti” ”0 000 teenage years. over 40,000 people are being evacuated in ukraine after a major dam collapse. president zelenskyy has said 80 towns and villages may be affected and the prime minister has said it would mark a new low in the conflict if russia is found to have been responsible. well, meanwhile , responsible. well, meanwhile, rishi sunak has arrived in washington , dc as he prepares to washington, dc as he prepares to meet with joe biden, the prime minister will push for more regulation on artificial intelligence and greater business links with the united states . and a new weight loss states. and a new weight loss drug aimed at tackling growing obesity has been announced by the government. earlier, the health secretary steve barclay, told us it an exciting told us it was an exciting development. it's told us it was an exciting development . it's a very development. it's a very eetttng— i it's a very exciting development, but it's one alongside— exciting development, but it's one alongside a— exciting development, but it's one alongside a range of other measures that— one alongside a range of other measures that we're taking . this measures that we're taking. this is measures that we're taking. this te e— measures that we're taking. this te e teettw—

measures that we're taking. this is a really exciting— measures that we're taking. this is a really exciting new teetnetegw— is a really exciting new technology, new drugs that are ewetette— technology, new drugs that are available, and— technology, new drugs that are available, and we— technology, new drugs that are available, and we want to make tnew-te — available, and we want to make sure they're available to people wttntn— sure they're available to people wttntn tne— sure they're available to people within the nhs— sure they're available to people within the nhs at— sure they're available to people within the nhs at the earliest ennentnttw— within the nhs at the earliest ennetttnttw .— within the nhs at the earliest opportunity . and there's going opportunity. and there's going to opportunity. and there's going te te— opportunity. and there's going te be e— opportunity. and there's going te be e ntnt — opportunity. and there's going to be a mini heatwave this week ent— to be a mini heatwave this week ent we— to be a mini heatwave this week and we promised,— to be a mini heatwave this week and we promised, well, we are tetng— and we promised, well, we are tetng enett. — and we promised, well, we are being spoilt. very— and we promised, well, we are being spoilt. «tiy “ti.ti and we promised, well, we are being spoilt. tiy “ ti.ti “i“«t being spoilt. very nice sunny weather for most of the country andifs weather for most of the country and it's going up, up, up after very similar weather patterns dunng very similar weather patterns during the last few weeks, the weather is finally changing later this week . high humidity, later this week. high humidity, ntgnet— later this week. high humidity, higher temperatures— high humidity, higher temperatures for many, but higher temperatures for many, ttt etee— higher temperatures for many, ttt etee tne— higher temperatures for many, but also the risk— higher temperatures for many, but also the risk of thunderstorms by the weekend but also the risk of— thunderstorms by the weekend . thunderstorms by the weekend. ttnt— thunderstorms by the weekend. ttnt ett— thunderstorms by the weekend. find out more— thunderstorms by the weekend. find out more in— thunderstorms by the weekend. find out more in the full teteeeet— find out more in the full forecast with— find out more in the full forecast with me . forecast with me. i so_ forecast with me. l so prince- forecast with me.| . so prince harry forecast with me. so prince harry is our top story. of course, story. he appeared, of course, in yesterday and will in court yesterday and will return to the witness box in the high court this morning. during day duke said he'd

day one, the duke said he'd experienced hostility from the press from the day he was born . press from the day he was born. well, has accused the mirror well, he has accused the mirror group— well, he has accused the mirror group newspapers— well, he has accused the mirror group newspapers of hacking his weteenete— group newspapers of hacking his voicemails when— group newspapers of hacking his voicemails when he was a teeneget— voicemails when he was a teeneget .— voicemails when he was a teeneget. te— voicemails when he was a teenager. he said he believed etenee— teenager. he said he believed stories written— teenager. he said he believed stories written in— teenager. he said he believed stories written in their publications- stories written in their publications caused security concerns for him and damaged his neteenet— concerns for him and damaged his personal relations— concerns for him and damaged his personal relations ships. ' “ti personal relations ships. and he etne— personal relations ships. and he also admitted— personal relations ships. and he also admitted under oath that his memoir spare , contradicted his memoir spare, contradicted a claim in his own witness statement. okay. claim in his own witness statement . okay. did he walk statement. okay. did he walk ntneett— statement. okay. did he walk himself into _ statement. okay. did he walk himself into trouble?- okay. did he walk himself into trouble? let's find out himself into trouble? let's find ett new— himself into trouble? let's find ett tten — himself into trouble? let's find out now from showbiz reporter stennente— out now from showbiz reporter stephanie takyi. _ out now from showbiz reporter stephanie takyi. good morning, tenn— stephanie takyi. good morning, tenn . — stephanie takyi. good morning, teenn . tnt— stephanie takyi. good morning, eamonn . and this— stephanie takyi. good morning, eamonn . '“ti stephanie takyi. good morning, eamonn . ' i good eamonn. and this one. good netntng— eamonn. and this one. good netntng. tew— eamonn. and this one. good morning. how do— eamonn. and this one. good morning. how do you- eamonn. ' “ti good morning. how do you think he has energet— morning. how do you think he has enetget ettet— morning. how do you think he has emerged after round one? \tit morning. how do you think he has emerged after round one? \ttiit emerged after round one? not so geet. tenenn— emerged after round one? not so good. eamonn. clearly- emerged after round one? \ttiit gi eamonn. clearly there's no good. eamonn. clearly there's no tewe— good. eamonn. clearly there's no tewe teet— good. eamonn. clearly there's no love lost between— gi eamonn. clearly there's no love lost between prince harry ent— love lost between prince harry ent tne— love lost between prince harry ent tne nnee— love lost between prince harry and the press. yes, but i think tete— and the press. yes, but i think he's forgotten— and the press. yes, but i think he's forgotten that he's eettettw— he's forgotten that he's actually in— he's forgotten that he's actually in a- he's forgotten that he's actually in a court of law and he actually in a court of law and ne neete— actually in a court of law and ne neete te— actually in a court of law and he needs to provide evidence wttn— he needs to provide evidence wttn e— he needs to provide evidence with a statement. he's saying, wette— with a statement. he's saying, wete-etew— with a statement. he's saying,i we're-about-big we're talking about a bid, a big nette— we're talking about a bid, a big nette group— we're talking about a bid, a big media group such— we're talking about a bid, a big media group such as the mirror, any— media group such as the mirror, enw etew— media group such as the mirror, enw etetw ttet— media group such as the mirror, any story that gets— media group such as the mirror, any story that gets published in any story that gets published in e—te— any story that gets published in e—te tnetetgntw- a newspaper is thoroughly eneetet. — a newspaper is thoroughly checked. they— a newspaper is thoroughly checked. they would have gone tntetgn— checked. they would have gone through editorial— checked. they would have gone through editorial processes . through editorial processes. thty— through editorial processes. tnew wettt— through editorial processes. they would have had their

sources. .when- they would have had their sources. when you're going up sources. so when you're going up egetnet— sources. so when you're going up egetnet e— sources. so when you're going up egetnet e ntg— sources. so when you're going up against a big media outlet such as against a big media outlet such ee tne— against a big media outlet such ee tne ettnet— against a big media outlet such as the mirror ,_ against a big media outlet such as the mirror , they will have as the mirror, they will have ttet— as the mirror, they will have their lawyers _ as the mirror, they will have their lawyers and they will have ttet— their lawyers and they will have their-something- their lawyers and they will have their something which their evidence, something which tnnee — their evidence, something which prince _ lacking . prince harry is clearly lacking . ttt— prince harry is clearly lacking . ttt wnet— prince harry is clearly lacking . ttt wnet t— prince harry is clearly lacking . but what i take— prince harry is clearly lacking . but what i take from this eettt— . but what i take from this eettt t— . but what i take from this court case, i don't think it's etett— court case, i don't think it's about winning— court case, i don't think it's about winning for prince harry, eettettt— about winning for prince harry, actually.ithink_ about winning for prince harry, actually. think this is just actually. i think this is just an actually. i think this is just en engetng— actually. i think this is just an ongoing saga to his netflix teetnentetw— an ongoing saga to his netflix teetnentetw .— an ongoing saga to his netflix documentary . and to spare, it's documentary. and to spare, it's ttet— documentary. and to spare, it's ttet ntn— documentary. and to spare, it's ttet ntn ttwtng— documentary. and to spare, it's ttet ntn ttwtng te— documentary. and to spare, it's just him trying to get his wentette— just him trying to get his vendetta against the tabloids . vendetta against the tabloids. tete— vendetta against the tabloids. te-e ttwtng— vendetta against the tabloids. te-e ttwtng te— vendetta against the tabloids. he's trying to make an example of he's trying to make an example et tne— he's trying to make an example of the tabloids- he's trying to make an example of the tabloids making them of the tabloids by making them the of the tabloids by making them tne nee— of the tabloids by making them the news like— of the tabloids by making them the news like they've done with ntn— the news like they've done with ntn tet— the news like they've done with ntn tet ee— the news like they've done with him for so many— the news like they've done with him for so many years, if not teeetee— him for so many years, if not teeetee. vet— him for so many years, if not decades. you know what they were teteet — decades. you know what they were raised eyebrows— decades. you know what they were raised eyebrows yesterday raised eyebrows there yesterday teetee— because not only was he etteettng— because not only was he attacking the _ because not only was he attacking the tabloids, he attacking the tabloids, but he entteteet— attacking the tabloids, but he criticised the _ attacking the tabloids, but he criticised the government, which attacking the tabloids, but he crisomething government, which attacking the tabloids, but he cri something gov royals. it, which attacking the tabloids, but he crisomething govroyals. which attacking the tabloids, but he crisomething gov royals. g5tich is something the royals. it's a massive taboo _ is something the royals. it's a massive taboo .okay. - is something the royals. it's a massive taboo okay. he's massive taboo now. okay. he's not working royal. he's still not a working royal. he's still a king. and he said a son of the king. and he said the british were at the british government were at rock bottom. well, i think this is-reflection_ rock bottom. well, i think this is-reflection of- rock bottom. well, i think this is-reflection of how- is just a reflection of how tnnee— is just a reflection of how prince _feels- is just a reflection of how prince feels about this prince harry feels about this eetnttw— prince harry feels about this eetnttw ent— prince harry feels about this country and all— prince harry feels about this country and all the establishments that are there. ttt— establishments that are there. ttt eeetn.— establishments that are there. but clearly, his— establishments that are there. but clearly, his will not be but clearly, his dad will not be nteeeet— but clearly, his dad will not be nteeeet .— but clearly, his dad will not be pleased . that's— but clearly, his dad will not be pleased . that's was just pleased. that's what i was just etett— pleased. that's what i was just etew-eew— pleased. that's what i was just about-say. clearly- pleased. that's what i was just about say. clearly not about to say. clearly he's not etett— about to say. clearly he's not etett-etttt- about to say. clearly he's not about - stuff with - about to say. clearly he's not about stuff with his about to say. clearly he's not- about-stuff with his dad about mending stuff with his dad teetee— about mending stuff with his dad teeeteeitet— about mending stuff with his dad because dad closely

because his dad is closely associated— because his dad is closely associated with- because his dad is closely associated with the government. so associated with the government. se-ntn — associated with the government. se-ntn getttng— associated with the government. so-him getting his- associated with the government. so him getting his kind of so it's him getting his kind of tte-oz— so it's him getting his kind of tom wetn— so it's him getting his kind of £0.02 worth and— so it's him getting his kind of £0.02 worth and then making tneee— £0.02 worth and then making tneee eneen— £0.02 worth and then making those cheap shots when he can. ttt— those cheap shots when he can. ttt tte— those cheap shots when he can. ttt tt-e gttte— those cheap shots when he can. but it's quite sad— those cheap shots when he can. but it's quite sad to see teetee— but it's quite sad to see because he— but it's quite sad to see because he talks about wanting nnweew— because he talks about wanting nnweew ent— because he talks about wanting nnweew ent ne— because he talks about wanting privacy and he wants the tettette— privacy and he wants the tabloids to— privacy and he wants the tabloids to stop being invasive in tabloids to stop being invasive tn tte— tabloids to stop being invasive tn nte tte.— tabloids to stop being invasive in his life. but— tabloids to stop being invasive in his life. but by- tabloids to stop being invasive in his life. but by doing this, wete— in his life. but by doing this, wet-e ttet— in his life. but by doing this, you're just giving us a field day— you're just giving us a field tew ent— you're just giving us a field day and creating more opportunities for us to dig and mete— opportunities for us to dig and nete e— opportunities for us to dig and make a mockery— opportunities for us to dig and make a mockery of you and your tentw. — make a mockery of you and your tentw. tnt— make a mockery of you and your family. and game— make a mockery of you and your family. and game set- make a mockery of you and your family. ' “ti 3 ?“ti make a mockery of you and your family. “ti 3 ?“ti i“?tgi“ family. and game set and match to piers morgan. yesterday, when asked about had seen harry's asked about had he seen harry's testimony and he says he looks forward to reading about harry's obsession with privacy in his new book. you know, and i thought i thought it was an interesting thing. and it is this dilemma and it is this dichotomy. and it is this idea that you're saying that actually he can go to court and everybody seems to win the newspapers will win the publicity. the lawyers , win the publicity. the lawyers, the lawyers wins. harry wins because he's setting up what his rule and life is , what his rule and life is, what his journey is . what will netflix journey is. what will netflix documentary be be about his new

book be about the war against the press? and in this day and age, there's going to be a lot of people agreeing with him about the toxicity of media. yeah, he can't you know, we ennt— yeah, he can't you know, we ennt tenw— yeah, he can't you know, we cannot deny that— yeah, he can't you know, we cannot deny that the media can be tewe. — cannot deny that the media can be tewe. ttt— cannot deny that the media can be toxic. but the _ cannot deny that the media can be toxic. but the thing what tenw— be toxic. but the thing what new tete— be toxic. but the thing what harry fails to— be toxic. but the thing what harry fails to understand, the ewe— harry fails to understand, the tewet ent— harry fails to understand, the tewet ent tne— harry fails to understand, the royal and the media's have a tew— royal and the media's have a ten eneetet— royal and the media's have a very special relationship. there teen-t— very special relationship. there neen-t-ene— very special relationship. there hasn't-one royal- very special relationship. there hasn't one royal family hasn't been one royal family nnennett— hasn't been one royal family nnennett wne— hasn't been one royal family member who says who can't say tnew— member who says who can't say tnew newen-t— member who says who can't say they haven't had— member who says who can't say they haven't had their day with they haven't had their day with tne nette— they haven't had their day with the media and— they haven't had their day with the media and they've had negettwe— the media and they've had negative express negative eewetege ett— negative express negative coverage out but the negative express negative- coverage out-but the main coverage out there. but the main tntng— coverage out there. but the main tntng etett— coverage out there. but the main thing about what— coverage out there. but the main thing about what the royals do tew— thing about what the royals do wen-te— thing about what the royals do wetw-te tnew— thing about what the royals do very-is they don't- thing about what the royals do very is they don't complain very well is they don't complain ent— very well is they don't complain ent tnew— very well is they don't complain ent tnew ten-t— very well is they don't complain and they don't explain. and it eeene-tenw-e— and they don't explain. and it seems harry's always seems like harry's always missed ttet.— seems like harry's always missed ttet-knew— seems like harry's always missed ttet-knew .— seems like harry's always missed that.-know , his— seems like harry's always missed that. know , his father, king that. you know, his father, king enwee.— that. you know, his father, king enwee-.— that. you know, his father, king cnettee.-. wet- that. you know, his father, king charles, , you know, that. you know, his father, king. charles,-, you know, on charles, he's been, you know, on the charles, he's been, you know, on tne eeweee— charles, he's been, you know, on tne tet— charles, he's been, you know, on the covers for many— charles, he's been, you know, on the covers for many scandals. it teen-t— the covers for many scandals. it neen-t etennet— the covers for many scandals. it hasn't stopped king charles, you knew.— hasn't stopped king charles, you knew. eetttng— hasn't stopped king charles, you know, courting the— hasn't stopped king charles, you know, courting the media when tete— know, courting the media when ne-e teetw— know, courting the media when ne-e teetw te. — know, courting the media when he's ready to. and— know, courting the media when he's ready to. and i think ttet-e— he's ready to. and i think that's where— he's ready to. and i think that's where harry misses all that's where harry misses it all the that's where harry misses it all tne ttne— that's where harry misses it all tne ttne . — that's where harry misses it all the time . we've— that's where harry misses it all the time . we've got- that's where harry misses it all the time . �*vtttti git ti. the time. we've got a clip of paul burrell speaking dan wootton last night because one of the people that the prince took aim at was him in relation took aim at was him in relation to his mum having his phone

hacked. and i believe that one of the things that harry had said was that paul burrell was two faced. and last night, paul burrell that's burrell was saying that's defamatory we a listen. defamatory. we have a listen. yes land in spare that he was but— yes land in spare that he was ntt en— yes land in spare that he was put on camilla's— t/ti5t land in spare that he was put on camilla's pr altar and eeetttteet— put on camilla's pr altar and eeetttteet .— put on camilla's pr altar and sacrificed . well,— put on camilla's pr altar and sacrificed . well, harry, you're sacrificed. well, harry, you're tetng— sacrificed. well, harry, you're tetng tne— sacrificed. well, harry, you're doing the same— sacrificed. well, harry, you're doing the same to me. what wete— doing the same to me. what wet-e tetng— doing the same to me. what wet-e tetng te— doing the same to me. what you're doing to me is unforgivable- you're doing to me is unforgivable . you know the truth unforgivable. you know the truth . vet— unforgivable. you know the truth . vet knew— unforgivable. you know the truth . you know what— unforgivable. you know the truth . you know what i— unforgivable. you know the truth . you know what i feel and think i . you know what i feel and think t en— . you know what i feel and think t enn net— . you know what i feel and think t enn net e— . you know what i feel and think t enn net e twe— . you know what i feel and think i am not a two faced . i am not i am not a two faced. i am not ttet— i am not a two faced. i am not we neeen— i am not a two faced. i am not we neeen .— i am not a two faced. i am not that person . don't— i am not a two faced. i am not that person . don't say these that person. don't say these tntnge— that person. don't say these tntnge tn— that person. don't say these things in public.— that person. don't say these things in public. i've tried 20 weete— things in public. i've tried 20 weete te— things in public. i've tried 20 weete te get— things in public. i've tried 20 years to get away from what nennenet— years to get away from what nennenet te— years to get away from what happened to me— years to get away from what happened to me a long time ago . happened to me a long time ago. oh, happened to me a long time ago. on. ent— happened to me a long time ago. on. ent then— happened to me a long time ago. on. ent tnen. wet— happened to me a long time ago. oh, and then, you know,- happened to me a long time ago. oh, and then, you know, these arguments just go on and on and round and round. and this one person's opinion against another person's opinion against another person's opinion against another person's opinion . but it person's opinion against another person's opinion. but it is person's opinion against another person's opinion . but it is what person's opinion. but it is what harry feels and it's despite what paul burrell would like to paint himself as , you've got paint himself as, you've got harry stepping out and saying, this guy's not what he seems. yeah. and he clearly has a

neteenet— yeah. and he clearly has a personal vendetta- t/tit?“ and he clearly has a personal vendetta against paul ttnett— personal vendetta against paul ttnett. vet— personal vendetta against paul burrell. you know, like this is tenw-e— burrell. you know, like this is now harry's moment to name and enene— now harry's moment to name and enene neente— now harry's moment to name and shame people all,— now harry's moment to name and shame people all, you know, like you shame people all, you know, like wet tettet— shame people all, you know, like you talked about— shame people all, you know, like you talked about piers morgan nttttng— you talked about piers morgan nttttng tne— you talked about piers morgan putting the james hewitt scandal out putting the james hewitt scandal ett tnee.— putting the james hewitt scandal out there, being _ putting the james hewitt scandal out there, being person who out there, being the person who wee-et— out there, being the person who wee-et ntentng— out there, being the person who was of pushing that out was kind of pushing that out tnee.— was kind of pushing that out tnete. tnt— was kind of pushing that out there. and when— was kind of pushing that out there. and when comes to paul there. and when it comes to paul ttnett— there. and when it comes to paul tweet—teen- burrell, it's always been quite controversial— burrell, it's always been quite controversial with the controversial with him and the etenee— controversial with him and the etettee ne— controversial with him and the stories he-sold_ controversial with him and the stories he-sold in- controversial with him and the stories he sold in past stories he has sold in the past in stories he has sold in the past tn newenenete— stories he has sold in the past in newspapers and, you know, ten— in newspapers and, you know, tten wnet— in newspapers and, you know, tten wnet twe— in newspapers and, you know, from what i've heard in court in newspapers and, you know, fromwaslt i've heard in court in newspapers and, you know, fromwas actually ard in court in newspapers and, you know, fromwas actually when court in newspapers and, you know, fromwas actually when harry and that was actually when harry and wtttten — that was actually when harry and william started— that was actually when harry and william started to— that was actually when harry and william started to fall out ttet— william started to fall out their views— william started to fall out their views on _ william started to fall out their views on paul burrell and new— their views on paul burrell and new ttet— their views on paul burrell and how that situation _ their views on paul burrell and how that situation was handled . how that situation was handled. i how that situation was handled. tttet— how that situation was handled. tttet tntnt— how that situation was handled. i just think the- how that situation was handled. i just think the whole— how that situation was handled. i just think the whole thing- how that situation was handled. i just think the whole thing is so sad, isn't it, that at the end of the day, he's damaged and he's estranged from his family. he's the whole thing he's paranoid. the whole thing is, you know, sort of a bit of a plague both. our scene is plague on both. our scene is a royal disaster.— plague on both. our scene is a royal disaster. what— d our scene is a royal disaster. what we're eeetng— royal disaster. what we're eeetng te— royal disaster. what we're eeetng te e— royal disaster. what we're seeing is a royal who's traumatised.- seeing is a royal who's traumatised. and i think it nenee-te— traumatised. and i think it. comes-to-wanting traumatised. and i think it- comes-to-wanting to comes down to harry wanting to eenge— comes down to harry wanting to ewenge—teetn- comes down to harry wanting to avenge—death as. comes down to harry wanting toi avenge—death as sad avenge his mother's death as sad it avenge his mother's death as sad tt te— avenge his mother's death as sad tt te ee— avenge his mother's death as sad tt te ee tt— avenge his mother's death as sad tt te ee tt te— avenge his mother's death as sad it is as it is, he's— avenge his mother's death as sad it is as it is, he's clearly not tt— it is as it is, he's clearly not tt. tnt— it is as it is, he's clearly not over it. and he— it is as it is, he's clearly not over it. and he wants someone to tete— over it. and he wants someone to tete tne— over it. and he wants someone to take the blame— over it. and he wants someone to take the blame for— over it. and he wants someone to take the blame for it. 3tit“ take the blame for it. ron to tetew— take the blame for it. ron to tetew ttt— take the blame for it. ron to today full coverage here on gb news. stephanie, thank you very

nten. — news. stephanie, thank you very nten. tnent— news. stephanie, thank you very much. thank you,— \ stephanie, thank you very much. .. now the much. thank you, bill. now the ttne— much. thank you, bill. now the prime minister— much. thank you, bill. now the prime minister is— much. thank you, bill. now the prime minister is in— much. .. now the prime minister is in washington tetew.— prime minister is in washington tetew. tete— prime minister is in washington today. he's seeking a military etwte— today. he's seeking a military style economic— today. he's seeking a military style economic alliance with the us style economic alliance with the ts te— style economic alliance with the us te tw— style economic alliance with the ts te ttw ent— style economic alliance with the us to try and counter the rise of us to try and counter the rise et tntne— us to try and counter the rise et cntne ent— us to try and counter the rise of china and also— us to try and counter the rise of china and also the risk of i knew— of china and also the risk of i knew nett— of china and also the risk of i know he'll also— of china and also the risk of i know he'll also speak to congressional- know he'll also speak to congressional and business teetete— congressional and business leaders about— congressional and business leaders about more support for tttetne. — leaders about more support for tttetne. tnt— leaders about more support for ukraine. and joining- leaders about more support for ukraine. ' “ti “ “g ..5 ukraine. and joining us now to discuss it all is deputy political editor tom harwood. good morning to you, tom. so tete— good morning to you, tom. so ne-e ttewn— good morning to you, tom. so he's flown overnight. he's tetenet— he's flown overnight. he's touched down— he's flown overnight. he's touched down in dc. he feels he nee— touched down in dc. he feels he nee en— touched down in dc. he feels he has an affiliation— touched down in dc. he feels he has an affiliation with the etetee.— has an affiliation with the states. - still - has an affiliation with the states. still got house states. he's still got a house even-t— states. he's still got a house over-i believe- states. he's still got a house over-i believe he- over there. i believe he teeenttw— over there. i believe he recently made - over there. i believe he recently made a huge donation to a recently made a huge donation to eeettege— recently made a huge donation to eeettege. t— recently made a huge donation to a college. i think— recently made a huge donation to a college. i think-of- a college. i think kind of tewtng—ee- a college. i think kind ofi tewtng—ee tnew a college. i think kind of- laying_as they like laying the ground as they like to laying the ground as they like te-tet— laying the ground as they like te-tet ee— laying the ground as they like to .for some sort- laying the ground as they like to for some sort of to say, for some sort of ttetneee— to say, for some sort of business negotiations. do you tntnt— business negotiations. do you ttnt-wnet- business negotiations. do you think what needs to business negotiations. do you- think-what needs to be think he can do what needs to be tenet— think he can do what needs to be tenet cen— think he can do what needs to be done? can-drum _ think he can do what needs to be done? can-drum up- think he can do what needs to be done? can drum up some done? can he drum up some tnteteet— done? can he drum up some tnteteet tn— done? can he drum up some interest in.plc?- done? can he drum up some interest in plc? well that's interest in uk plc? well that's eettetntw— interest in uk plc? well that's eettetntw-te- interest in uk plc? well that's certainly-be his- certainly seems to be his tewtng— certainly seems to be his driving-today.- certainly seems to be his driving-today. i certainly seems to be his. driving-today. and certainly seems to be his- driving-today. and of driving mission today. and of etne—ttet- driving mission today. and of ewee—ttet e- driving mission today. and of course,_just a onel course, this is not just a one day visit. this two days of day visit. this is two days of meeting all sorts of people, congressional leaders , committee congressional leaders, committee chairs. today, business leaders tomorrow in a roundtable , and tomorrow in a roundtable, and also then the president of the united states in the white house as well. and it does seem that

perhaps there are three big themes to this trip. the thing that we've been briefed most about, of course , is this about, of course, is this seeking a closer economic relations chip with the united states , the prime minister will states, the prime minister will be trumpeting £14 billion of investment announced just today by us companies in the uk and specifically highlighting the different regions whereby this investment is being placed, but also the prime minister will highlight how about 1.5 million brits work for american companies? about 1.3 million americans work for british companies . this is an incredibly companies. this is an incredibly close economic relationship, a relationship that has surpassed $1 trillion in value and pushing forward with economic cooperation will be a very key argument. perhaps pushing ideas like friendshoring . that's like friendshoring. that's that's when instead of onshoring jobs as as as economies move

away from countries like china and russia , you share with your and russia, you share with your friends us and ideological allies that closer economic relationship . but also, of relationship. but also, of course a i is going to be on the table. this is something that the prime minister has been speaking about. he wants the united kingdom to be this world leader stuff is leader in how this stuff is regulated . and we saw that the regulated. and we saw that the prime minister's own adviser was saying there's only two saying perhaps there's only two years to get some years this world has to get some sort regulatory structure in sort of regulatory structure in place before it all runs ahead of us. i smell a legacy ennentnttw— i smell a legacy opportunity here for rishi sunak if opportunity here for rishi sunak tt-te— opportunity here for rishi sunak tt-te eeen— opportunity here for rishi sunak tt-te te— opportunity here for rishi sunak if-be seen to be- opportunity here for rishi sunak if be seen to be the if he can be seen to be the neeen— if he can be seen to be the neeen ttet— if he can be seen to be the person that can— if he can be seen to be the person that can bring about an tett— person that can bring about an iaea equivalent.— person that can bring about an iaea equivalent. when it comes to n.— iaea equivalent. when it comes te ., ttet-e— iaea equivalent. when it comes te ., tnet-e tne— iaea equivalent. when it comes to i, that's the sort— iaea equivalent. when it comes to i, that's the sort of thing ttet— to i, that's the sort of thing we wtt— to i, that's the sort of thing that will make— to i, that's the sort of thing that will make the history neete. — that will make the history neete. tt— that will make the history books. n ai— that will make the history books. if ai is— that will make the history books. if ai is as big a threat as books. if ai is as big a threat ee ett— books. if ai is as big a threat as we're all being told day ettet— as we're all being told day ettet tew— as we're all being told day after day in. _ as we're all being told day after day in. xeeccq ' “ti as we're all being told day after day in. >e

host ed in the uk for i the sort of global regulatory structure for al , the monitoring of it, for al, the monitoring of it, perhaps a cern like institution , cern, of course doing all sorts of particle physics based in switzerland. the prime minister wants something similar for al based in london. whether or not the us decides to agree that's a that's another question. but of course, third on the list as well, and perhaps what will be leading some the what will be leading some of the headunes what will be leading some of the headlines statements headlines and joint statements is ukraine, which has is of course ukraine, which has blown up again into the headlines. and just as the prime minister was flying over to the united states yesterday . okay, united states yesterday. okay, tom, thank you very- .i,“ titi i okay, tom, thank you very much indeed . tnt— tom, thank you very much indeed . tnt tne— tom, thank you very much indeed .tnt tne ttne— tom, thank you very much indeed . and the time 7:13— tom, thank you very much indeed . and the time 7:13 o'clock. wnetewet— . and the time 7:13 o'clock. wherever you're _ . and the time 7:13 o'clock. wherever you're watching from, whatever you're doing this morning , share it with us. let morning, share it with us. let us know and we'll bring you the rest of today's top stories. here they are. and we'll start with that story tom was referring to there. the prime tttntetet— referring to there. the prime minister saying— referring to there. the prime minister saying the- ”ti�*7ti”” “g ”ti the prime minister saying the destruction of minister saying the destruction et tne — minister saying the destruction et tne ten— minister saying the destruction et tne ten tn— minister saying the destruction of the dam in ukraine would mark a of the dam in ukraine would mark e tew— of the dam in ukraine would mark e tew tn— of the dam in ukraine would mark a new low in the— of the dam in ukraine would mark a new low in the conflict if tteete— a new low in the conflict if tteete te— a new low in the conflict if russia is found— a new low in the conflict if russia is found to be responsible. - russia is found to be responsible. sunak russia is found to be- responsible. _sunak said responsible. rishi sunak said

the responsible. rishi sunak said tte—nnentw- responsible. rishi sunak said the—priority is- responsible. rishi sunak said the priority is the the immediate priority is the humanitarian— the immediate priority is the humanitarian response. thousand of humanitarian response. thousand et neente— humanitarian response. thousand et neente newe— humanitarian response. thousand of people have been evacuated en— of people have been evacuated tne— of people have been evacuated since the dam— of people have been evacuated since the dam in— of people have been evacuated since the dam in russian held tttetne— since the dam in russian held ukraine collapsed . 37�*” ukraine collapsed. the prime minister has described formed a new weight loss drug scheme as a game changer. it's a £40 million pilot. it can help patients lose 15% of body weight. it's intended to tackle obesity and cut nhs waiting lists. intended to tackle obesity and cut nhs waiting lists . the cut nhs waiting lists. the health secretary, steve barclay , told us just half an hour ago on the programme that it will be available to patients as soon as possible. it's a very exciting development, but it's one alongside a range of other measures that we are taking and we're looking at. for example, the we're looking at. for example, tne nttet— we're looking at. for example, tne nttet tn— “t; for example, the pilot in wolverhampton, we've brought— the pilot in wolverhampton, we've brought in other measures in we've brought in other measures tn teene— we've brought in other measures tn tetne et— we've brought in other measures in terms of calorie— we've brought in other measures in terms of calorie disclosure to in terms of calorie disclosure te tettet— in terms of calorie disclosure to better inform _ in terms of calorie disclosure to better inform patients on menus. so there's a range of tntnge— menus. so there's a range of tntnge wette— menus. so there's a range of things we're doing, but this is a things we're doing, but this is e teettw— things we're doing, but this is a really exciting— things we're doing, but this is a really exciting new technology,- a really exciting new technology, new drugs that are ewetette— technology, new drugs that are available and— technology, new drugs that are available and we— technology, new drugs that are available and we want to make tnew-te — available and we want to make sure they're available to people wttntn— sure they're available to people wttntn tne— sure they're available to people within the nhs— sure they're available to people within the nhs at— sure they're available to people within the nhs at the earliest ennentnttw— within the nhs at the earliest ennetttnttw .— within the nhs at the earliest

ennetttnttw . we— within the nhs at the earliest opportunity . we nearly a third opportunity. we nearly a third of opportunity. we nearly a third et nnnetw— opportunity. we nearly a third of primary schools in england ten-t— of primary schools in england ten-t newe— of primary schools in england ten-t newe e— of primary schools in england don't have a male teacher. twetteng— don't have a male teacher. twetteng e— don't have a male teacher. kwarteng a new— don't have a male teacher. kwarteng a new record- don't have a male teacher. kwarteng a new record low, according to a new study from the warwick business school. boys from poorer backgrounds are said to benefit more from having a male teacher in school, but are less likely to have . one are less likely to have. one it's an interesting one. i think a good teacher is— it's an interesting one. i think a good teacher is a— it's an interesting one. i think a good teacher is a good- a good teacher is a good teeenen— a good teacher is a good teacher. whether it's a man or a ttt— teacher. whether it's a man or a ttt t— teacher. whether it's a man or a woman. but i do— teacher. whether it's a man or a woman. but i do get that whole tntng— woman. but i do get that whole tntng ttet— woman. but i do get that whole tntng tnet wetng— woman. but i do get that whole thing that young boys will miss ttteetten— thing that young boys will miss direction and— thing that young boys will miss direction and being able to look up direction and being able to look tn ent— direction and being able to look tn ent teeneet— direction and being able to look up and respect men . i mean, you up and respect men. i mean, you ntet— up and respect men. i mean, you ntet newe— up and respect men. i mean, you ntet newe net— up and respect men. i mean, you must have had male teachers as wet— must have had male teachers as wet et— must have had male teachers as well at school.— must have had male teachers as well at school. did— must have had male teachers as well at school. did you get on better— well at school. did you get on tettet wttn— well at school. did you get on better with them _ well at school. did you get on better with them than the female e — better with them than the female ? ttnt— better with them than the female neee ttnt trying— better with them than the female ones ? i'm trying to— better with them than the female ones ? “t; ones? i'm trying to think at primary school age i changed school eight. i probably did newe— school eight. i probably did tewe-mete— school eight. i probably did have-male teachers. school eight. i probably did- have-male teachers younger have some male teachers younger tewn—tenenteti down the school. don't remember any down the school. don't remember enw—etgnt- down the school. don't remember enw—etgnt tnwette.| any of them from eight upwards. i a any of them from eight upwards. t-e gttte— any of them from eight upwards. i-a girls school- any of them from eight upwards. i-a girls school and- any of them from eight upwards. i a girls school and the i was at a girls school and the entw— i was at a girls school and the only-teachers— i was at a girls school and the only-teachers were- i was at a girls school and the only teachers were the only male teachers were the ntet— only male teachers were the music teachers— only male teachers were the music teachers and they were a bit music teachers and they were a ttt ett. — music teachers and they were a ttt ett. tee.— music teachers and they were a bit odd. yes, they— music teachers and they were a bit odd. t/ti5t tttti”ti“ g music teachers and they were a bit odd. t/ti5t g ”tit?t. bit odd. yes, they weren't real male role models to put it

politely. in fact, one of them ett— politely. in fact, one of them ett wttn— politely. in fact, one of them ran off with a— gilegt in fact, one of them ran off with a student a few weete— ran off with a student a few weete teten— ran off with a student a few years later, so— ran off with a student a few years later, so it— ran off with a student a few years later, so it probably says it years later, so it probably says tt ett. — years later, so it probably says tt ett. wet.— years later, so it probably says it all. well, i— years later, so it probably says it all. well, i had- years later, so it probably says it all. well, i had a- years later, so it probably says it all. �*ftttiii “?ti i“.5tti. it all. well, i had a music teacher and his name was teacher and his his name was elvis obe . we called him elvis elvis obe. we called him elvis teetee— elvis obe. we called him elvis teetee t— elvis obe. we called him elvis because i thought— it 05 we called him elvis because i thought this was you tetng— because i thought this was you tetng ttet.— because i thought this was you being black, slicked back hair ent— being black, slicked back hair and whatever— being black, slicked back hair and whatever it— being black, slicked back hair and whatever it is. g and whatever it is. but gosh, i bet you're holy fathers didn't approve of a man who was he was replicating the he was man himself. he was a holy father. oh, really ? father kevin oh, really? father kevin mcmullan who sadly died just a few weeks ago . but he called few weeks ago. but he called himself elvis holy father elvis. we called him elvis. we called him we called him elvis. we called ntn ttwe. — we called him elvis. we called him elvis. and oh, these stories. but you know , but, but stories. but you know, but, but teachers, when you think about it in your life, they they are. and i used to be very good at impersonating teachers. and they stay with you impersonating teachers. and they etew wttn wet tet— impersonating teachers. and they stay with you for your— “g i and they stay with you for your whole ttte — stay with you for your whole ttte .— stay with you for your whole ttte . tnt — stay with you for your whole ttte . tnt tt— stay with you for your whole life . and if they're good, life. and if they're good, nenettttw— life. and if they're good, bopefully you - life. and if they're good, hopefully you name your top tnnee— hopefully you name your top three teachers. _ hopefully you name your top three teachers. i- hopefully you name your top three teachers. i think you should give them a shout out. well, my well, that's a difficult- well, my well, that's a difficult one,- well, my well, that's a difficult one, but probably, ntetettw— difficult one, but probably, probably paddy o'hanlon, primary seneet— probably paddy o'hanlon, primary seneet wee— probably paddy o'hanlon, primary school was amazing and mary

tetgtten— school was amazing and mary tetgnten. nw— school was amazing and mary loughran, my geography teacher at loughran, my geography teacher et t—tewet— loughran, my geography teacher at a—level, maria— loughran, my geography teacher at a—level, maria maloney, geography— at a—level, maria maloney, geography teacher as well , and geography teacher as well, and eetetttne— geography teacher as well, and geraldine pettigrew, my english teeenet— geraldine pettigrew, my english teeenet .— geraldine pettigrew, my english teacher . gosh,— geraldine pettigrew, my english teacher . gosh, i— geraldine pettigrew, my english teacher . gosh, i could go on for teacher. gosh, i could go on for egee— teacher. gosh, i could go on for egee. wett— teacher. gosh, i could go on for egee. wett. wet— teacher. gosh, i could go on for ages. well, you know, this is gttte— ages. well, you know, this is gttte e— ages. well, you know, this is gttte e ne— ages. well, you know, this is quite a nice idea— ages. well, you know, this is quite a nice idea if you have a teeenet— quite a nice idea if you have a teeenet ttet— quite a nice idea if you have a teacher that really, you know, you— teacher that really, you know, wet tntnt— teacher that really, you know, wet tntnt et— teacher that really, you know, you think of sometimes and teettw— you think of sometimes and teettw ttet— you think of sometimes and really just tribute your love to eeneettng — really just tribute your love to eeneettng .— really just tribute your love to schooling , name— really just tribute your love to schooling , name them. i “ schooling, name them. send in your— schooling, name them. send in wet enette— schooling, name them. send in your emails this morning and we'll do a little shout out. we'll give them a little shout out. mine for me was miss ray. she really changed french for me up until about 13. wasn't interested. teacher was interested. the teacher was awful. tore awful. miss ray came in, tore up the rule did it totally the rule book, did it totally differently, she had me differently, and she had me eating of hand. and eating out of her hand. and within years, i could speak within two years, i could speak french. and i still love to french. and i still love to french this day. well, it's tnteteettng— french this day. well, it's interesting that- french this day. well, it's interesting that it. - i ti? well, it's interesting that it. /tit. i interesting that it. you call tet— interesting that it. you call net ttee— interesting that it. you call her miss and— interesting that it. you call her miss and you that her miss and you have that title, ray i would be i title, ray and i would be i mean, i've met, met, passed teachers recently. you know even you as a grown man i would you know as a grown man i would have i have to call them have and i have to call them miss miss. absolutely mister have and i have to call them miwhatever.t. absolutely mister have and i have to call them miwhatever. absolutely mister have and i have to call them miwhatever. buttolutely mister have and i have to call them miwhatever. but apparentlyter have and i have to call them miwhatever. but apparently it's or whatever. but apparently it's not the thing in schools anymore. we're going to talk

about very, anymore. we're going to talk abou shortly. very, anymore. we're going to talk abou shortly. and very, anymore. we're going to talk abou shortly. and you very, anymore. we're going to talk abou shortly. and you know, y, anymore. we're going to talk abou shortly. and you know, is very shortly. and you know, is how you address as a teacher. you know, should you be calling them by their first name? jim mary abdul , whatever it them by their first name? jim mary abdul, whatever it is. this my son's teacher is called, mr satterthwaite_ this my son's teacher is called, mr satterthwaite ,_ this my son's teacher is called, mr satterthwaite , good morning mr satterthwaite, good morning to mr satterthwaite, good morning te wet.— mr satterthwaite, good morning te wet. tt— mr satterthwaite, good morning te wet. tt wet-e— mr satterthwaite, good morning to you. if you're watching the ttte. — to you. if you're watching the ttte. ten-t— to you. if you're watching the kids. can't say— to you. if you're watching the kids. can't say it.- to you. if you're watching the kids. can't say it. no- to you. if you're watching the kids. tilt?“ g g \ttiit > so kids. can't say it. no > so tnew-tt— kids. can't say it. no > so tnew-tt eett— kids. can't say it. no > so they'll call him - kids. can't say it. no > so they'll call him mr- kids. can't say it. no > so they'll call him mr s.- kids. tilt?“ g g \ttiit > so they'll call him mr s. but i tntnt— they'll call him mr s. but i tntnt ttet— they'll call him mr s. but i think that that's not formal enetgn. — think that that's not formal enetgn. tne— think that that's not formal enough. the high mr s mr satterthwaite well, what enough. the high mr s mr satterthwaite well, what does it neen— satterthwaite well, what does it ttt— satterthwaite well, what does it mean? it.” 3 �*t.:ntt satterthwaite well, what does it mean? it.” 3 �*vttt' satterthwaite well, what does it mean? 3 mean? mr satterthwaite that name come from? i don't know. it's quite tricky when you're- quite tricky when you're trying to quite tricky when you're trying te enet— quite tricky when you're trying to email him. _ quite tricky when you're trying to email him. mr— quite tricky when you're trying to email him. it.” i. quite tricky when you're trying to email him. it.” ii titit to email him. mr s will do. wonderful. okay. so we're asking you wonderful. okay. so we're asking wet tne— wonderful. okay. so we're asking you the question,— wonderful. okay. so we're asking you the question, are— i so we're asking you the question, are schools tetng— you the question, are schools being-lenient?- you the question, are schools being lenient? and the being too lenient? and does the eett— being too lenient? and does the eett-teee— being too lenient? and does the sort-does this— being too lenient? and does the sort-does this lead- being too lenient? and does the sort does this lead if sort of does this lead if tnew-te— sort of does this lead if they're being- sort of does this lead if they're being lenient, does that teet— they're being lenient, does that teet te— they're being lenient, does that teet te tet— they're being lenient, does that lead to bad behaviour? does it teet— lead to bad behaviour? does it teet te— lead to bad behaviour? does it lead to aggressive students? neee— lead to aggressive students? neee-te— lead to aggressive students? does to students does it lead to students tntnttng— does it lead to students thinking they- does it lead to students thinking they can get off with tnen— thinking they can get off with more than they— thinking they can get off with more than they should getting more than they should be getting off more than they should be getting ett-tnete-e— more than they should be getting ett-tnete-e e— more than they should be getting off-there's a new- off with? and there's a new tenet— off with? and there's a new tenet-tetew— off with? and there's a new report today that says report out today that says ettentten— report out today that says attention span— report out today that says attention span is at an all time tew— attention span is at an all time tew wttn— attention span is at an all time tew wttn ttte— attention span is at an all time low with kids since covid. let us low with kids since covid. let te tnew— low with kids since covid. let te tnew wnet— low with kids since covid. let us know what you— low with kids since covid. let us know what you think .

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you're offered nothing , what do you're offered nothing, what do they say? half of nothing. still netntng. — they say? half of nothing. still netntng. vet— they say? half of nothing. still nothing. you know,— they say? half of nothing. still nothing. you know, it's- 7 half of nothing. still nothing. /tit. ti nothing. you know, it's i'd rather i don't want to know what they were offered over the past 20 years. i want to know what tnew-te— 20 years. i want to know what tnew-te tetng— $70 «ttit?”5 i want to know what they're being offered now. ttet-e— they're being offered now. tnet-e tt— they're being offered now. that's it. so— they're being offered now. that's it. so stop and keep your tnetgnte— that's it. so stop and keep your thoughts coming— that's it. so stop and keep your thoughts coming in. lots of you. teen— thoughts coming in. lots of you. teen very— thoughts coming in. lots of you. been very amusing this morning and talking about and we've been talking about school and we've been talking about schthad an art teacher that would we had an art teacher that would hit on the bottom hit you on the bottom with a table tennis bat that had your initials chalked onto it. so everyone knew that you had been punished. julia when punished. and julia said, when i was school form of was in primary school form of abuse, well, it abuse, isn't it? well, it wetttn-t— abuse, isn't it? well, it wouldn't be— g 7 well, it wouldn't be allowed when i abuse, isn't it? well, it- wouldn't be allowed when i was in wouldn't be allowed when i was tn-eeneet.— wouldn't be allowed when i was tn-eeneet. t— wouldn't be allowed when i was in-school, i was- wouldn't be allowed when i was in school, i was talking in primary school, i was talking in primary school, i was talking tn teee— in primary school, i was talking in class, primary— in primary school, i was talking in class, primary school, this te. — in class, primary school, this te. -teecnet- in class, primary school, thisi is. _teacher whacked in class, primary school, this- is. _teacher whacked my is. and my teacher whacked my hand that was in the hand with a cane that was in the late yeah. that went on late 505. oh, yeah. that went on till late 505. oh, yeah. that went on tttt tne — late 505. oh, yeah. that went on tttt tne eettw— late 505. oh, yeah. that went on till the early-i— late 505. oh, yeah. that went on till the early-i would- 505 oh, yeah. that went on till the early i would have till the early 70s. i would have tnetgnt— till the early 70s. i would have tnetgnt tee— till the early 70s. i would have thought lee in— till the early 70s. i would have thought lee in portsmouth, my tntent— thought lee in portsmouth, my infant school— thought lee in portsmouth, my infant school grammar school, infant school to grammar school, etettet— started with predominantly tente— started with predominantly tenete ent— started with predominantly female and finished predominantly male. interesting so predominantly male. interesting se teeteettw— predominantly male. interesting so basically we're— predominantly male. interesting so basically we're saying more mete— so basically we're saying more male teachers— so basically we're saying more male teachers than female teeenete— male teachers than female teeenete et— male teachers than female teachers or vice— male teachers than female teachers or vice versa. they're net— teachers or vice versa. they're net eewtng—

teachers or vice versa. they're not saying they're— teachers or vice versa. they're not saying they're far more tente— not saying they're far more female teachers and men aren't ettteetet— female teachers and men aren't ettteetet te — female teachers and men aren't attracted to the _ female teachers and men aren't attracted to the profession . is attracted to the profession. is it attracted to the profession. is tt netetnet— attracted to the profession. is it maternal to _ attracted to the profession. is it maternal to paternal figures eeentngtw— it maternal to paternal figures seemingly needed at different nette— seemingly needed at different nente et— seemingly needed at different nente et wett— seemingly needed at different parts of your life— seemingly needed at different parts of your life now? unfortunately, i'm not smart enetgn— unfortunately, i'm not smart enetgn te— unfortunately, i'm not smart enough to even— unfortunately, i'm not smart enough to even understand what enough to even understade what you enough to even understand what wet wett— enough to even understand what you mean. well, like you become a you mean. well, like you become e teenegen — you mean. well, like you become eteenegen ne— you mean. well, like you become a teenager. do you— you mean. well, like you become a teenager. jtit i a teenager. do you need more men in secondary school? and when you're young little, you you're young and little, you need sort of nurturing, need that sort of nurturing, loving, model loving, maternal role model all to debated just a moment, to be debated in just a moment, but those thoughts coming but keep those thoughts coming in news .com . let's in gb views gb news .com. let's get into a children's— “ cit . cit \ titit?“ let's get into a children's attention ent— get into a children's attention ent tne— get into a children's attention and the classroom we hear has worsened since— and the classroom we hear has worsened since the pandemic and a worsened since the pandemic and ettttn— worsened since the pandemic and ettttn et— worsened since the pandemic and a fifth of secondary— worsened since the pandemic and a fifth of secondary school teeenete— a fifth of secondary school teachers say— a fifth of secondary school teachers say they're unlikely to be teachers say they're unlikely to te tn— teachers say they're unlikely to te tn tne — teachers say they're unlikely to be in the profession in five weete— be in the profession in five weete ttne— be in the profession in five years time and— be in the profession in five years time and a fifth in tent— years time and a fifth in decimal is— years time and a fifth in decimal is don't ask me that. tte— decimal is don't ask me that. we tnnenet— decimal is don't ask me that. tt-e tnnenet .— decimal is don't ask me that. it's imperial, isn't it? and teetnet— it's imperial, isn't it? and decimal off— it's imperial, isn't it? and decimal off a— it's imperial, isn't it? and decimal off a fifth would be 0.2. — decimal off a fifth would be 0.2. se— decimal off a fifth would be 0.2. so 2020.— decimal off a fifth would be 0.2. so 2020. yeah.- decimal off a fifth would be 0.2. $7070 t/tint“ .. git decimal off a fifth would be 0.2. $7070 t/tint“ .. 3tit 0.2. so 2020. yeah. i'll go with that. right. what is causing tnte— that. right. what is causing tnte enete— that. right. what is causing this crisis in— that. right. what is causing this crisis in the— right. what is causing this crisis in the classroom? tnt— this crisis in the classroom? tnt ee— this crisis in the classroom? tnt et— this crisis in the classroom? and are our schools too soft on

ntntee — and are our schools too soft on ntntee tetnet— and are our schools too soft on pupils? i i and are our schools too soft on pupils? i n“ti i pupils? former teacher and head of policy at the centre for education and youth batus ramaiah says schools are under resourced , forced to function resourced, forced to function proper only. meanwhile, head teacher and chairman of the campaign for real education, chris mcgovern, says schools are facing a breakdown in discipline . let's start with you, chris. wnet-e— . let's start with you, chris. wnet-e tne— let's start with you, chris. what's the picture you're netntng— what's the picture you're netnttng e — what's the picture you're painting ? jittticc “ “ti”; painting? well, look in any school, someone's in control and it helps if it's the teacher. but we're getting reports, aren't we? now? frequently that too often children are taking over and we talk about attention span and that's to some extent due to people, children using mobile phones and so forth. there was a book a few years ago by eminent scientists called baroness greenfield. she entitled the book mind change . entitled the book mind change. we talk a lot about climate change. we're not talking enough, perhaps, about the impact of the technology on young brains . so, you know, when young brains. so, you know, when i was head teacher, we banned young brains. so, you know, when i weusezad teacher, we banned young brains. so, you know, when i weuse ofi teacher, we banned young brains. so, you know, when i weuse of mobile r, we banned young brains. so, you know, when i weuse of mobile phones nned young brains. so, you know, when i weuse of mobile phones ined young brains. so, you know, when i weuse of mobile phones in the the use of mobile phones in the classroom unless they were supervised by the by the head

teacher . there are anecdotally, teacher. there are anecdotally, quite serious reports about a breakdown of order in our classrooms. and let me tell you, i've taught for 35 years, i've taught five year olds, i've taught five year olds, i've taught year olds, one thing taught five year olds, i've taugichildren olds, one thing taught five year olds, i've taugichildren crave one thing taught five year olds, i've taugichildren crave iste thing taught five year olds, i've taugichildren crave is order.tg most children crave is order. they want discipline. they want order them. but too order protects them. but too often, these days, a few individual children who are troublemakers can take over the classroom. not in all schools, but in some bars. what do you tntnte— but in some bars. what do you tntnte wett— but in some bars. what do you think? well i— but in some bars. what do you think? well i think- “ what do you think? well i think while it's tew— think? well i think while it's new eeew— think? well i think while it's new eeew te— think? well i think while it's new eeew te eew— think? well i think while it's very easy to say schools are too eett.— very easy to say schools are too eett. t— very easy to say schools are too eett. t tntnt— very easy to say schools are too soft, i think the- very easy to say schools are too soft, i think the reality is tnet— soft, i think the reality is we tne— soft, i think the reality is that the world - soft, i think the reality is that the world that young people eneene — that the world that young people enenene te— that the world that young people experience is hard. ' “ti that the world that young people experience is hard. ' i g experience is hard. and it's getten— experience is hard. and it's gotten harder in the last year. let's look the facts in let's just look at the facts in the last year, the number of children growing up in food poverty doubled. we have poverty has doubled. we now have 4 people going 4 million young people going into hungry every single into school hungry every single day. talk about day. let's also talk about mental health. the number of young people referred to mental health 2021 also health services in 2021 also doubled . and the fact is that if doubled. and the fact is that if you're into hungry, you're going into school hungry, if have a mental health if you have a mental health disorder, then very disorder, then it's very difficult for you be a model difficult for you to be a model student. that's reason student. and that's the reason why seeing increase

why we're seeing this increase in behaviour, in challenging behaviour, presenting you presenting in schools. but, you know, maybe not just the symptoms. we talk about symptoms. maybe we talk about and just talk about too and maybe we just talk about too much, but maybe we if you look at every fault that every child, that every person that every teacher could have, we teacher could possibly have, we wouldn't get anything done. why couldn't we just on with wouldn't get anything done. why couldn't we just-on with it. couldn't we just get on with it 7 wet— couldn't we just get on with it 7 wet. wette— couldn't we just get on with it ? well, we're talking- couldn't we just get on with it 7 “i ? well, we're talking about a big systemic problem here, eamonn. and when it comes to solving these big systemic problems, we shouldn't be talking symptoms . we talking about symptoms. we should about causes. talking about symptoms. we shotthat about causes. talking about symptoms. we shotthat involves about causes. talking about symptoms. we shotthat involves investmentes. talking about symptoms. we shotthat involves investment and and that involves investment and looking problems in the looking at these problems in the round. that's why need to round. and that's why we need to be about poverty and be talking about poverty and mental health in our schools. yeah, know, chris yeah, but you know, chris mcgovern point. and i want mcgovern has a point. and i want to go mcgovern has a point. and i want te ge teet— mcgovern has a point. and i want te ge teet te— mcgovern has a point. and i want te ge teet te wet— mcgovern has a point. and i want to go back to you on— mcgovern has a point. and i want to go back to you on this- to go back to you on this because, you— to go back to you on this because, you know, we talk about eneene-tnnee- because, you know, we talk about screens-impact it- because, you know, we talk about screens impact it has on screens and the impact it has on ettentten— screens and the impact it has on ettentten enen.— screens and the impact it has on attention span, but— screens and the impact it has on attention span, but we also know tnet— attention span, but we also know ttet—tne- that screens are one of the causes of mental health netene.— causes of mental health problems. surely have to be problems. surely we have to be tewtng— problems. surely we have to be newng e— problems. surely we have to be newng e nete— problems. surely we have to be having a more conversation having a more adult conversation etett— having a more adult conversation etett nenewtng— having a more adult conversation about removing—our. about removing screens for our wetngetete— about removing screens for our youngsters—brainsl youngsters whilst their brains are-developing- youngsters whilst their brains are developing not only are still developing not only to tnntewe— are still developing not only to improve discipline order in improve discipline and order in classrooms,-the- improve discipline and order in classrooms, the mental classrooms, but for the mental neettn— classrooms, but for the mental health benefits— classrooms, but for the mental health benefits of— classrooms, but for the mental health benefits of the children tee. — health benefits of the children tee. tnne— health benefits of the children

too. chris it's— health benefits of the children too. chris it's true— health benefits of the children too. chris it's true that i tntnt— too. chris it's true that i tntnt tne— too. chris it's true that i think the issues with apologies. tntn— think the issues with apologies. cttte. ge— think the issues with apologies. cntte. ge eteet— think the issues with apologies. chris, go ahead. okay.- think the issues with apologies. chris, go ahead. okay. look i have some sympathy for what batus is saying. and i took over a batus is saying. and i took over etettng— batus is saying. and i took over a failing school— batus is saying. and i took over a failing school after— batus is saying. and i took over a failing school after i- “3 and i took over a failing school after i retired ent— a failing school after i retired ent tne— a failing school after i retired and the first— a failing school after i retired and the first thing we had to do te— and the first thing we had to do te teet— and the first thing we had to do was to feed the— and the first thing we had to do was to feed the children, give tnen — was to feed the children, give them breakfast— was to feed the children, give them breakfast give them breakfast and give them a eeneet— them breakfast and give them a school uniform,— them breakfast and give them a school uniform, you know, and tnee— school uniform, you know, and tnete-eenete— school uniform, you know, and there serious social there are serious social ntettene— there are serious social problems some there are serious social problems-some schools. problems in some of our schools. ttt— problems in some of our schools. ttt ttttnetetw— problems in some of our schools. but ultimately ,_ problems in some of our schools. but ultimately , the— problems in some of our schools. but ultimately , the children but ultimately, the children themselves,— but ultimately, the children themselves, they want good or tnew— themselves, they want good or tnew went— themselves, they want good or they want what— themselves, they want good or they want what makes a good teeenet— they want what makes a good teacher-makes- they want what makes a good teacher-makes a- they want what makes a good teacher makes a children teacher also makes a children teen — teacher also makes a children teen se— teacher also makes a children learn. so children— teacher also makes a children learn. so children don't misbehave_ learn. so children don't misbehave if- learn. so children don't misbehave if they're well taught . tnt— misbehave if they're well taught . tnt tewtng— misbehave if they're well taught . and having taught for so long nweett— . and having taught for so long nweett. twe— . and having taught for so long myself, i've seen— . and having taught for so long myself, i've seen this time and ttne— myself, i've seen this time and ttne egetn— myself, i've seen this time and time again. you— myself, i've seen this time and time again. you get good teeentng— time again. you get good teaching people, children teaching and people, children are teaching and people, childreni ene—tent are making progress. you tend not are making progress. you tend net-ntettene- are making progress. you tend net-ntettene .- are making progress. you tend not problems , but there's not to get problems, but there's some fundamental things we some very fundamental things we all some very fundamental things we ett-et— some very fundamental things we ett-et ntee— some very fundamental things we all-of miss. and— some very fundamental things we all of miss. and you can't all sort of miss. and you can't ttet—teet- all sort of miss. and you can't ttet—tett et- all sort of miss. and you can't just lack of funding just blame the lack of funding we've increased— just blame the lack of funding we've increased expenditure on etteetten— we've increased expenditure on etteetten tn— we've increased expenditure on etteetten tn tn— we've increased expenditure on education in in real terms since the education in in real terms since tne teste— education in in real terms since tne ttee by— education in in real terms since the 1950s by about— education in in real terms since the 1950s by about 900. you can go the 1950s by about 900. you can ge te— the 1950s by about 900. you can ge te neet— the 1950s by about 900. you can go to poor countries— the 1950s by about 900. you can go to poor countries like vtetnen — go to poor countries like vietnam is— go to poor countries like vietnam is a— go to poor countries like vietnam is a good example, a tew— vietnam is a good example, a very successful— vietnam is a good example, a very successful educationally, ttt— very successful educationally, ttt tew— very successful educationally, ttt wetw neet— very successful educationally, ttt wetw neen .— very successful educationally, but very poor. so— very successful educationally, but very poor. so we mustn't ttet— but very poor. so we mustn't ttet ttene— but very poor. so we mustn't just blame 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just blame poverty. we there's no excuse for— just blame poverty. we there's no excuse for poor— just blame poverty. we there's no excuse for poor teaching . we no excuse for poor teaching. we tne— no excuse for poor teaching. we can raise the standards for ewetwtetw— can raise the standards for ewetwtetw tt— can raise the standards for everybody if we - can raise the standards for everybody if we teach well, that teettng— everybody if we teach well, that means looking at— everybody if we teach well, that means looking at the curriculum. tnt— means looking at the curriculum. tnt tnet— means looking at the curriculum. and that means— means looking at the curriculum. and that means by— means looking at the curriculum. and that means by the way, understanding— and that means by the way, understanding that the majority of understanding that the majority et etett— understanding that the majority of staff. schools _ understanding that the majority of staff schools are not even of staff in schools are not even teeetete— of staff in schools are not even teeenete. we— of staff in schools are not even teachers. we have— of staff in schools are not even teachers. we have 275 classroom eeetetente. — teachers. we have 275 classroom assistants. we— teachers. we have 275 classroom assistants. we don't— teachers. we have 275 classroom assistants. we don't need so nenw— assistants. we don't need so nenw .— assistants. we don't need so nenw . we— assistants. we don't need so many . we need— assistants. we don't need so many . we need to change the way many. we need to change the way we teeen. — many. we need to change the way we teeen. ee— many. we need to change the way we teach. go back— many. we need to change the way we teach. go back to— many. we need to change the way we teach. go back to what we wettt— we teach. go back to what we wettt eett— we teach. go back to what we would call our— we teach. go back to what we would call our traditional nettete— would call our traditional methods. they're not very methods. but they're not very ttettttenet— methods. but they're not veryi traditional—which methods. but they're not veryi trehighlyll_which methods. but they're not very tre'highly successful. which methods. but they're not very tre'highly successful. there �*iich methods. but they're not very tre'highly successful. there are is highly successful. there are wewe—ntetteni is highly successful. there are. ways—problem. we ways of solving the problem. we ntetn-t— ways of solving the problem. we mustn't-depressed- ways of solving the problem. we mustn't depressed about mustn't just get depressed about t. — mustn't just get depressed about t. tnt— mustn't just get depressed about t. tnt tnee— mustn't just get depressed about it. and there is— mustn't just get depressed about it. and there is a— mustn't just get depressed about it. and there is a point- mustn't just get depressed about it. and there is a point in that, isn't there? was that actually what you're calling for is you know, is almost parenting, you know, providing food, providing mental support . children in school support. children are in school to learn for an education. well, i think we all know at this point that schools can't do everything by themselves. the number of pressures, the- “td the number of pressures, the number of number of pressures, the number et tenente— number of pressures, the number et tenente en— number of pressures, the number of demands on schools has been tneteeetng— of demands on schools has been tneteeetngltne— of demands on schools has been increasing-the last— of demands on schools has been increasing the last decade. increasing in the last decade. tnt— increasing in the last decade. tnt-eene— increasing in the last decade. and-same time,- increasing in the last decade. and same time, they've and at the same time, they've etee— and at the same time, they've tee—tnet- and at the same time, they'vei also _their funding and at the same time, they've also but their funding and at the same time, they've also but i their funding and at the same time, they've also but i actuallyfunding reduced. but i actually eenntetetw— reduced. but i actually completely with chris completely agree with chris nene.— completely agree with chris nene. wnet-e— completely agree with chris here. what's really missing in our here. what's really missing in etn—tetge- here. what's really missing in bur—large supplyi our schools is a large supply of ntgn— our schools is a large supply of high _teachers. - our schools is a large supply of high teachers. have high quality teachers. we have a teettttnent— high quality teachers. we have a recruitment and— high quality teachers. we have a recruitment and retention crisis in recruitment and retention crisis tn-teeentng— recruitment and retention crisis in teaching profession at in the teaching profession at tne— in the teaching profession at

tte-.— in the teaching profession at tte-.itnew- in the teaching profession at- the-.-know-since the moment. we know that since netene— the moment. we know that since netene cowe— the moment. we know that since before covm to _ the moment. we know that since before covid to this year, the ntnnett— before covid to this year, the ntnnett et— before covid to this year, the number of vacancies in teaching has number of vacancies in teaching nee-wew— number of vacancies in teaching nee-wewlwe- number of vacancies in teaching has-now,.we want. has doubled. now, if we want ntgn— has doubled. now, if we want ntgn gtetttw— has doubled. now, if we want high quality professionals in the high quality professionals in tte-te— high quality professionals in the _to.able. high quality professionals in the _to.able to| high quality professionals in- the _to.able to deal the classroom to be able to deal wttn— the classroom to be able to deal with-challenging— the classroom to be able to deal with challenging behaviour with the challenging behaviour ttet-e— with the challenging behaviour that's-presented,- with the challenging behaviour that's presented, the that's being presented, then the eewetnnent— that's being presented, then the government invest government needs to invest in ewetenntng— government needs to invest in overcoming recruitment overcoming that recruitment tetentten— overcoming that recruitment retention _and - overcoming that recruitment retention and that's overcoming that recruitment retent to and that's overcoming that recruitment retent to involve and that's overcoming that recruitment retent to involve improvingit's going to involve improving teeenet— going to involve improving teeenet new. — going to involve improving teacher pay. \ttif.t�*ttt' going to involve improving teacher pay. ttitttt going to involve improving teacher pay. \ttif.t�*ttt' going to involve improving teacher pay. ttitttt teacher pay. now i want to ask both of you, both of you as former teachers, the report out today talks about the lack of primary school teachers who are men. nearly a third of primary school teachers have no male classroom teachers and can that have a negative and adverse effect or not? chris, first of all. oh, it has a negative etteet. — all. oh, it has a negative effect. look,— all. oh, it has a negative effect. look, i— oh, it has a negative effect. look, i spent the second nett— effect. look, i spent the second nett et— effect. look, i spent the second nett et nw— effect. look, i spent the second half of my career— effect. look, i spent the second half of my career as a primary eeneet— half of my career as a primary school teacher,— half of my career as a primary school teacher, so— half of my career as a primary school teacher, so i'm one of tneee— school teacher, so i'm one of those exceptions,— school teacher, so i'm one of those exceptions, i suppose, and eettettw— those exceptions, i suppose, and eettettw enent— those exceptions, i suppose, and actually spent quite a bit of ttne— actually spent quite a bit of ttne tn— actually spent quite a bit of time in private— actually spent quite a bit of time in private sector, in the nnwete— time in private sector, in the private sector,— time in private sector, in the private sector, in— time in private sector, in the private sector, in the posh eeteete— private sector, in the posh schools.-plenty| private sector, in the posh. schools-plenty of schools. there are plenty of nete— schools. there are plenty of male teachers— schools. there are plenty of male teachers in- schools. there are plenty of male teachers in what call male teachers in what we call prep— male teachers in what we call nten eeteete— male teachers in what we call prep schools-real- prep schools. it's a real neten.— prep schools. it's a real problem. though, prep schools. it's a real- problem.-though, in prep schools. it's a real- problem. _though, in the problem. i think, though, in the etete— problem. i think, though, in the

state-particularly- state sector, particularly teetee— state sector, particularly- teeetee—tnew state sector, particularly- becal male _they state sector, particularly- becalmale role _they state sector, particularly becalmale role models they state sector, particularly becalmale role models andj need male role models and tnew-te— need male role models and tnew-te net— need male role models and they're not getting them. and tettewe— they're not getting them. and tettewe tt— they're not getting them. and believe it or— they're not getting them. and believe it or not,— they're not getting them. and believe it or not, girls do tend to believe it or not, girls do tend te tentnete— believe it or not, girls do tend to dominate in— believe it or not, girls do tend to dominate in primary school. tetntene— to dominate in primary school. tetntene-et- to dominate in primary school. hermione of harry potter hermione granger of harry potter is hermione granger of harry potter te-ent— hermione granger of harry potter te-ent wett— hermione granger of harry potter te-ent wett tn— hermione granger of harry potter is and well in primary is alive and well in primary eeteete— is alive and well in primary schools. girls— is alive and well in primary schools. girls do- is alive and well in primary schools. girls do dominate. we neet—tete— schools. girls do dominate. we need—role models. schools. girls do dominate. wei need—role models in need more male role models in eeteete— need more male role models in eeneete. ttt— need more male role models in eeneete. ttt e— need more male role models in schools, but a lot— need more male role models in schools, but a lot men are schools, but a lot of men are but— schools, but a lot of men are ntt ett— schools, but a lot of men are ntt en. t— schools, but a lot of men are put off. i think- schools, but a lot of men are put off. i think they think, you knew.— put off. i think they think, you knew. tne — put off. i think they think, you know, the obsession with neetenntte— know, the obsession with paedophilia and so forth, which etwtetetw— paedophilia and so forth, which obviously—issue. obviously is a is a big issue tee.— obviously is a is a big issue tee. t— obviously is a is a big issue tee. t tntnt— obviously is a is a big issue too. i think they— obviously is a is a big issue too. i think they feel tainted by too. i think they feel tainted tw-tnte— too. i think they feel tainted tw-tnte e— too. i think they feel tainted by into a primary school. by going into a primary school. why— by going into a primary school. wnw-went— by going into a primary school. wnw-went te— by going into a primary school. why want to teach young why do you want to teach young enttttene— why do you want to teach young children?.there's_ why do you want to teach young children? there's problem children? so there's a problem tnee.— children? so there's a problem tnee-tet— children? so there's a problem there.-let me— children? so there's a problem there.-let me tell- children? so there's a problem there. let me tell you there. but let me tell you eenetntng— there. but let me tell you something teaching. there. but let me tell you something-teaching. a something about teaching. it's a wentetttt— wonderful energising, marvellous nteteeeten—nenl wonderful energising, marvellous nteeeetennnent— jni profession. we need more men in teeentng—nete- profession. we need more men in. teeentng—nete-tn teaching and we need more men in nttnetw— teaching and we need more men in nnnetw eeneet. — teaching and we need more men in primary school. batus so i think the problem of there not being enough at primary enough male teachers at primary school case a school has been the case for a while. buti school has been the case for a while. but i think it's also not ttet— while. but i think it's also not ttet etett— while. but i think it's also not just about gender. _ but i think it's also not just about gender. there are etee— just about gender. there are also demographic groups also other demographic groups tnet— also other demographic groups ttet—tnl that are underrepresented in teeettng— that are underrepresented in teaching, people that are underrepresented in| teaciarei,_people that are underrepresented in teaciarei, bame people that are underrepresented in teaciarei, bame backgrounds who are from bame backgrounds like who are from bame backgrounds tte-tnt— who are from bame backgrounds like-andlyou're- like myself. and if you're teeentng— like myself. and if you're teaching-an- like myself. and if you're teaching an inner city school teaching in an inner city school ent— teaching in an inner city school ent wetng— teaching in an inner city school ent wetng neente— teaching in an inner city school and young people there who are ttegtenttw— and young people there who are frequently-bame- and young people there who are frequently bame backgrounds frequently from bame backgrounds tneneewee— themselves only see white people as themselves only see white people ee-tnen— themselves only see white people ee-tnen-teet- as teachers, then they lack eteet— as teachers, then they lack clear aspirational role models. tnt— clear aspirational role models. tnt t— clear aspirational role models. tnt t tntnt— clear aspirational role models. and i think we— clear aspirational role models. and i think we need to be

teettng— and i think we need to be looking wider— and i think we need to be looking wider than the gender |went— looking wider than the gender issue. iwantlask- looking wider than the gender issue. iwant. ask the- looking wider than the gender issue. looking wider than the gender. issue. iwant. ask the both of issue. i want to ask the both of you another question . you again another question. batus and chris, you batus teacher and chris, you think about this as well, a teacher who influenced you had a lifelong influence on you and why . he was going first. pass why. he was going first. pass goes first. i can honestly- 3tit “g �*7 pass goes first. i can honestly , i goes first. i can honestly, i tntnt— goes first. i can honestly, i tntnt t— goes first. i can honestly, i tntnt t en— goes first. i can honestly, i think i can honestly say in the ettw— think i can honestly say in the ettw et— think i can honestly say in the city of birmingham, getting tetwweet— city of birmingham, getting tetwweet t— city of birmingham, getting ladywood i had good teachers in my ladywood i had good teachers in nw ttet— ladywood i had good teachers in nw ttet twe— ladywood i had good teachers in my first two years,— ladywood i had good teachers in my first two years, a series of ten — my first two years, a series of ten en— my first two years, a series of them can barely— my first two years, a series of them can barely remember them, but them can barely remember them, ttt-wete— them can barely remember them, ttt-wete tetw— them can barely remember them, but-were very good.- them can barely remember them, but were very good. they but they were very good. they tetgnt— but they were very good. they tetgnt ne— but they were very good. they tetgnt me te— but they were very good. they taught me to read. i think my the foundation— taught me to read. i think my the foundation teachers, the enee-tne— the foundation teachers, the ones-the first- the foundation teachers, the ones the first two ones i had in the first two weee— ones i had in the first two years, were the- ones i had in the first two years, were the most important. ones i had in the first two yeari were the most important. ones i had in the first two yeari think the most important. ones i had in the first two yeari think theynost important. ones i had in the first two yeari think they probably)rtant. ones i had in the first two yeari think they probably stillt. and i think they probably still are and i think they probably still ene—etew.- and i think they probably still. are—okay. batus are for everybody. okay. batus yeah, compelling to hear. chris, that we both also came yeah, compelling to hear. - chris, that we both also came up in chris, that we both also came up tn ttnne— chris, that we both also came up tn ettw— chris, that we both also came up in inner city birmingham. i'm going— in inner city birmingham. i'm getng-ett— in inner city birmingham. i'm getng-ett te- in inner city birmingham. i'm getng-ett te nw- in inner city birmingham. i'm going out to my former going to shout out to my former teene— going to shout out to my former drama teacher— going to shout out to my former drama teacher chris hope who ween— drama teacher chris hope who ween .— drama teacher chris hope who ween . tnttet— drama teacher chris hope who yeah , imbued an— drama teacher chris hope who yeah , imbued an absolute love of yeah, imbued an absolute love of the yeah, imbued an absolute love of tne ette— yeah, imbued an absolute love of tne ette ent— yeah, imbued an absolute love of tne ette ent e— yeah, imbued an absolute love of the arts and a love— yeah, imbued an absolute love of the arts and a love of knowledge ent— the arts and a love of knowledge ent ntetettw— the arts and a love of knowledge and probably inspired me to enten— and probably inspired me to enter profession, myself and enter the profession, myself and this enter the profession, myself and tnteltne— enter the profession, myself and this-the first- enter the profession, myself and this-the first time— enter the profession, myself and this the first time i've got this is the first time i've got a this is the first time i've got e centen— this is the first time i've got e eeneen te— this is the first time i've got a chance to tell— this is the first time i've got a chance to tell him that. so nenettttw— a chance to tell him that. so nenettttw nete— a chance to tell him that. so hopefully he's watching. cj“ hopefully he's watching. oh, gteet— hopefully he's watching. oh, gteetlwent— hopefully he's watching. oh, great. .want to _ hopefully he's watching. oh, great. .want to do -

hopefully he's watching. oh, great-want to do more. hopefully he's watching. oh, great. want to do more of great. we want to do more of that morning. people at that this morning. people at home that this morning. people at nene-teen— that this morning. people at home-been emailing. that this morning. people at home-been emailing send home have been emailing in. send us home have been emailing in. send _tewt— home have been emailing in. send us_your teachers- us the names of your teachers tnet— us the names of your teachers tnet wet— us the names of your teachers tnet wet went— us the names of your teachers that you want to _ us the names of your teachers that you want to celebrate teetee— that you want to celebrate because we need more teachers, nene—tne- more positivity around the nteteeeten.— more positivity around the profession. apparently five weete— profession. apparently five years will years time, a huge number will not years time, a huge number will net-tne— years time, a huge number will not-the profession- not be in the profession enwnetele- not be in the profession anymore. a shame. and we anymore. it's a shame. and we nentettettw— anymore. it's a shame. and we particularly-more- anymore. it's a shame. and we. particularly-more-both particularly need more men, both of particularly need more men, both et wet— particularly need more men, both et wet-ett— particularly need more men, both of you-out male- of you shouting out male teeetene— of you shouting out male teachers thank you so teachers there. thank you so nten— teachers there. thank you so much—razi much for that debate. raz teneten— much for that debate. raz. ramaiah-mcgovern, ramaiah and chris mcgovern, tnent—wet. - ramaiah and chris mcgovern,| thank—you. thank ramaiah and chris mcgovern,- thank _you. thank you thank you. thank you. thank you new— thank you. thank you. thank you new ntet.— thank you. thank you. thank you very much. class dismissed. but do you know what's funny? we were about subjects that were talking about subjects that people do like, but i've just realised in a very divisive, divisive was p, you know divisive subject was p, you know , people so you either liked it or you were somewhere in between or you were somewhere in between or you were somewhere in between or you absolutely detested it and it caused terrible stress . and it caused terrible stress. i've never understood this at all i've never understood this at ett teetee— i've never understood this at all because sport— i've never understood this at all because sport was my life at eeneet— all because sport was my life at eeneet ent— all because sport was my life at school and to— all because sport was my life at school and to this— all because sport was my life at school and to this day some of my school and to this day some of nw teet— school and to this day some of my best friends— school and to this day some of my best friends are the netball teen— my best friends are the netball teen teen — my best friends are the netball team from school— my best friends are the netball team from school and it was ewetwtntng. — team from school and it was ewetwtntng. t— team from school and it was everything. i loved sport and tnet— everything. i loved sport and we wee— everything. i loved sport and we nw— everything. i loved sport and that was my and— everything. i loved sport and that was my and i say to this day,— that was my and i say to this tew. eeneet— that was my and i say to this day, school was— that was my and i say to this day, school was my happiest tnee.— day, school was my happiest tnee-nw— day, school was my happiest times.-my son- day, school was my happiest times. my son interested times. but my son not interested in times. but my son not interested tn enen— times. but my son not interested tn enett ent— times. but my son not interested tn enett ent t— times. but my son not interested in sport and i don't— times. but my son not interested in sport and i don't really understand— in sport and i don't really understand how to bring him up wttnett— understand how to bring him up wttnett-tnt— understand how to bring him up without-and it's- understand how to bring him up without and it's trying to without that. and it's trying to

get-enetnt. - without that. and it's trying to get-around. he- without that. and it's trying to get around. he just get my head around. he just teeen-t— get my head around. he justi doesn't—football, doesn't want to play football, teeen-t— doesn't want to play football,j teeen-t—te doesn't want, doesn't want to eneee — doesn't want, doesn't want to eneee e— doesn't want, doesn't want to eneee e tett— doesn't want, doesn't want to chase a ball around and yeah, it's chase a ball around and yeah, tt-e ttnnw— chase a ball around and yeah, tt-e ttnnw new— chase a ball around and yeah, it's funny how-can- chase a ball around and yeah, it's funny how can be so it's funny how sport can be so ttttetent— it's funny how sport can be so different—and- it's funny how sport can be so different—and i- it's funny how sport can be so different and i find different for people and i find as different for people and i find ee wett— different for people and i find ee wett. t— different for people and i find as well, i mean,— different for people and i find as well, i mean, i— different for people and i find as well, i mean, i was okay at neet— as well, i mean, i was okay at neet enene— as well, i mean, i was okay at neet enette .— as well, i mean, i was okay at most sports , but— as well, i mean, i was okay at most sports , but in dividual most sports, but in dividual enene— most sports, but in dividual enene tte— most sports, but in dividual sports like cross— most sports, but in dividual sports like cross country ttnntng— sports like cross country ttnntng. t— sports like cross country running, i hated that. /tit. running, i hated that. you see, i running, i hated that. you see, t tewet— running, i hated that. you see, t tewet ttet. — running, i hated that. you see, i loved that. oh— running, i hated that. you see, i loved that. oh i_ running, i hated that. you see, i loved that. oh i hated individual sports . i was a team individual sports. i was a team player. individual sports. i was a team ntewen ween— individual sports. i was a team ntewen ween — individual sports. i was a team ntewen ween we.— individual sports. i was a team player. yeah no, i never liked teams. yeah, player. yeah no, i never liked teams . yeah, but player. yeah \ttit c i yeah, but there's too teams. yeah, but there's too nten— teams. yeah, but there's too much pressure— teams. yeah, but there's too much pressure . _ teams. yeah, but there's too much pressure . i- yeah, but there's too much pressure . ti ti much pressure. i did a lot of swimming and the nerves i had before swimming galas . i mean, i before swimming galas. i mean, i could be ill for days. before swimming galas. i mean, i could be ill for days . worrying could be ill for days. worrying about swimming galas. yeah . all about swimming galas. yeah. all i remember is runners— about swimming galas. yeah. all i remember is runners or- “g 3 yeah. all i remember is runners or gutties or i remember is runners or gutties et wnten— i remember is runners or gutties et wnten wee— i remember is runners or gutties or which were white and stay in ttewn— or which were white and stay in ttewn tnetgn— or which were white and stay in brown through cross country ttnntng— brown through cross country ttnntng ent. — brown through cross country running and. but i always remember the teacher shouted in your ear all the way home, all the way. and you would that would stay with me. because i do think it gives you stamina and it can give you stamina, not just from a physical point of view. it can give you stamina from a mental point of view. you've got great stamina. i can

wet— you've got great stamina. i can wet ee e teng— you've got great stamina. i can see you as a long distance runner. i'm not one for stamina or or middle distance. or sprinter or middle distance. more distance. but we can more middle distance. but we can tett— more middle distance. but we can tett-eeneettng— more middle distance. but we can talk-schooling.day,- talk about schooling all day, tnetgn— talk about schooling all day, thougb_bappyi though it does make happy memories both. now, i memories for us both. now, i do newe— memories for us both. now, i do newe te— memories for us both. now, i do newe te eew— memories for us both. now, i do have to say, though, that phrase nennteet— have to say, though, that phrase nennteet tewe— have to say, though, that phrase nennteet tewe et— have to say, though, that phrase happiest days of your life. tteetttetw— happiest days of your life. absolutely absolutely. happiest days of your life. absc i utely absolutely. happiest days of your life. absci was' absolutely. happiest days of your life. absci was a absolutely. happiest days of your life. absci was a bit absolutely. happiest days of your life. absci was a bit lostisolutely. happiest days of your life. absci was a bit lost whenzly. happiest days of your life. absci was a bit lost when iy. happiest days of your life. absci was a bit lost when i left and i was a bit lost when i left eeteet— and i was a bit lost when i left eeneet. t— and i was a bit lost when i left school. i thought,— and i was a bit lost when i left school. i thought, you know, wnet— school. i thought, you know, wnet-te— school. i thought, you know, what-do now?- school. i thought, you know, what do now? and but but it what do i do now? and but but it tt— what do i do now? and but but it tt net— what do i do now? and but but it tt net nte— what do i do now? and but but it was it had his faults, it has tettte. — was it had his faults, it has faults. _taught. was it had his faults, it has faults. taught by was it had his faults, it has. faults. _taught by a faults. and i was taught by a lot faults. and i was taught by a tet et— faults. and i was taught by a lot of priests— faults. and i was taught by a lot of priests as— faults. and i was taught by a lot of priests as well and which wnten— lot of priests as well and which was which was— lot of priests as well and which was which was a— lot of priests as well and which was which was a great blessing to was which was a great blessing te te— was which was a great blessing te te tetgnt— was which was a great blessing te te tetgnt by— was which was a great blessing to be taught by men who were so entttttet. — to be taught by men who were so spiritual. actually— to be taught by men who were so spiritual. actually and now i do ee— spiritual. actually and now i do t.— spiritual. actually and now i do t. t— spiritual. actually and now i do t. t te— spiritual. actually and now i do miss it. i do miss— spiritual. actually and now i do miss it. i do miss it. it's so tewtng— miss it. i do miss it. it's so newng eett— miss it. i do miss it. it's so having said that,- miss it. i do miss it. it's so having said that, i still have ntgntnetee— having said that, i still have nightmares about not having ttw— nightmares about not having exams. my latin- nightmares about not having exams. iii; “ exams. my latin homework and things like that. but there we go. right. stay with us. stop us reminiscing. could it all reminiscing. we could do it all day, but we'll be discussing rwanda. that was suella braverman dream, wasn't it? these first apparently these first flights, apparently they could be taking off by september. emma september. david mellor emma burnell with their views in the papers in a minute.

we are on a wednesday morning. nice to have you with us. we're going— nice to have you with us. we're getng te— nice to have you with us. we're getng te enew— nice to have you with us. we're getng te enew wet— nice to have you with us. we're going to show you what the front pages— going to show you what the front negee et— going to show you what the front negee et tne— going to show you what the front pages of the papers are tegtnntng— pages of the papers are beginning with the times prince nenw— beginning with the times prince nenw ntetttet— beginning with the times prince harry pictured on— beginning with the times prince harry pictured on most of the nenete— harry pictured on most of the nenete. nee— harry pictured on most of the nenete. nee te— harry pictured on most of the papers, has to be— harry pictured on most of the papers, has to be said, although eettettw— papers, has to be said, although eettettw net— papers, has to be said, although actually not the— papers, has to be said, although actually not the times this netntng. — actually not the times this morning. but— actually not the times this morning. but his- actually not the times this

morning. “ g i morning. but his political attack on the government as he gives evidence against the mirror group their mirror newspaper group is their top very unusual for top liner. very unusual for a royal do but is royal to do so. but what is pictured there that dam in pictured there is that dam in ukraine on telegraph, which is quite their quite reversed. ofsted their teet— quite reversed. ofsted their teet te— quite reversed. ofsted their lead is about— quite reversed. ofsted their lead is about the- ti. ”ii i ofsted their lead is about the dam, but their ntettte— lead is about the dam, but their ntettte te— lead is about the dam, but their picture is about— lead is about the dam, but their picture is about harry and it's eewtng— picture is about harry and it's eewtng. tet-e— picture is about harry and it's saying, let's talk— picture is about harry and it's saying, let's talk about this tttetnten— saying, let's talk about this ukrainian dam— saying, let's talk about this ukrainian dam and it would be a tew— ukrainian dam and it would be a tew tt— ukrainian dam and it would be a new low if russia— ukrainian dam and it would be a new low if russia was responsible - new low if russia was responsible for it. iii “g new low if russia was- responsible for it. according to our own prime minister for the express, focusing on that game changing new weight loss drug that we've been talking about this morning, including with the health himself, it's health secretary himself, it's aimed slimming the aimed at slimming down the nation, nhs waiting nation, reducing nhs waiting times possibly getting times and possibly getting people to work. bad stat in people back to work. bad stat in the let's look at the the star. let's look at the headline. it says inspector clueless and it says police not able to solve a single burglary in almost half the neighbourhoods in england and wales. why is that not? well, why sort of why is that? yeah. let's ask emma and david with that one. that is the headline in that one. that is the headline tn tne— that one. that is the headline tn tne sten —

that one. that is the headline in the star. david— that one. that is the headline in the star. david and- that is the headline in the star. jnt ti “ti in the star. david and why the ineptitude or the lack of interest in solving burglary? why is burglar ellery not important to our police services ? well, maybe it's important. they— ? well, maybe it's important. tnew ttet— ? well, maybe it's important. tnew ttet ten-t— 7 well, maybe it's important. they just don't know how to deal wttn— they just don't know how to deal wttn t.— they just don't know how to deal wttn tt. teet— they just don't know how to deal with it. look you— they just don't know how to deal with it. look you know, i used to with it. look you know, i used te tntnt— with it. look you know, i used te tntnt tne— with it. look you know, i used to think the police were the meet— to think the police were the most wonderful— to think the police were the most wonderful things by father was an inspector— most wonderful things by father was an inspector in the special eenetetttetw— was an inspector in the special eenetetttetw .— was an inspector in the special constabulary. i— was an inspector in the special constabulary. i was brought up in constabulary. i was brought up tn e— constabulary. i was brought up tn e netee— constabulary. i was brought up in a house just— constabulary. i was brought up in a house just near the police neteee— in a house just near the police neteee .— in a house just near the police neteee . t— in a house just near the police houses . i really— in a house just near the police houses . i really admired those houses. i really admired those . wew. tt— houses. i really admired those men . now, if you— houses. i really admired those men . now, if you said to me, do men. now, if you said to me, do i men. now, if you said to me, do ttttet— men. now, if you said to me, do ttttet tne— men. now, if you said to me, do i trust the british— men. now, if you said to me, do i trust the british police , i i trust the british police, i wettt— i trust the british police, i wettt newe— i trust the british police, i would have to— i trust the british police, i would have to say, do you know? i would have to say, do you know? t ten-t. — would have to say, do you know? t ten-t. t— would have to say, do you know? i don't. i think— would have to say, do you know? i don't. ithink |— would have to say, do you know? i don't. i think i maybe i'm idon't. i think i maybe i'm unusual, but— i don't. i think i maybe i'm unusual, but i— i don't. i think i maybe i'm unusual, but i think there are an unusual, but i think there are en ewttt— unusual, but i think there are en ewttt tet— unusual, but i think there are an awful lot of— unusual, but i think there are an awful lot of people who now teet— an awful lot of people who now teet tnet— an awful lot of people who now teet tnet tne— an awful lot of people who now feel that the police are far more obsessed— feel that the police are far more obsessed with politically eteet— more obsessed with politically correct crimes— more obsessed with politically correct crimes and far too ttttte— correct crimes and far too little concerned about the crimes that _ little concerned about the crimes that really matter to neente— crimes that really matter to people robberies, burglaries and so people robberies, burglaries and ee etew.— people robberies, burglaries and ee otew. te— people robberies, burglaries and so on. okay. is that— people robberies, burglaries and so on. ti.ti7 so on. okay. is that the police? is that their fault or is that society's fault? and i said this to someone yesterday. we were talking about schools and what's

been taught in schools. and we go been taught in schools. and we 9° , been taught in schools. and we go , oh, everybody seems to go, oh, everybody seems to complain about this. why can't this tide be turned? why can't these things be turned around and saying to the police force , and saying to the police force, you know, do the right thing , you know, do the right thing, thing? well, i think that that tegtttee— thing? well, i think that that tegtttee e— thing? well, i think that that requires a number— “if” well, i think that that requires a number of things to nennen— requires a number of things to nennen .— requires a number of things to nennen . tne— requires a number of things to happen . the first— requires a number of things to happen . the first is it requires happen. the first is it requires the awareness.— happen. the first is it requires the awareness. you know, we have 40, the awareness. you know, we have to. tt— the awareness. you know, we have to. tz netee— the awareness. you know, we have 40, 42 police forces— the awareness. you know, we have 40, 42 police forces in this netntt— 40, 42 police forces in this eetnttw. tnew— 40, 42 police forces in this country. they sort of run by eenntttee— country. they sort of run by committee and— country. they sort of run by committee and it's very tnnettent— committee and it's very important the- committee and it's very important the police and it's tetw— important the police and it's new tnnettent— important the police and it's very important that the police tntetetent— very important that the police understand. and— very important that the police understand. and each force is etweet— understand. and each force is etweet tt— understand. and each force is advised it is— understand. and each force is advised it is the— understand. and each force is advised it is the general desire of advised it is the general desire et tne— advised it is the general desire et tne cntet— advised it is the general desire of the chief constable is to nete— of the chief constable is to nete e— of the chief constable is to make a real— of the chief constable is to make a real impact on serious ttne— make a real impact on serious tnet— make a real impact on serious crime that the— make a real impact on serious crime that the public care etett. — crime that the public care etett. tnt— crime that the public care about. and then, you know, we newe — about. and then, you know, we newe te — about. and then, you know, we newe te newe— about. and then, you know, we have to have of— about. and then, you know, we have to have of some consistency in have to have of some consistency tn teene— have to have of some consistency tn tetne et— have to have of some consistency in terms of what— have to have of some consistency in terms of what the— have to have of some consistency in terms of what the home office are in terms of what the home office tegttnng— in terms of what the home office are requiring the— in terms of what the home office are requiring the police to do . are requiring the police to do. tnt— are requiring the police to do. and unfortunately, we haven't teen— and unfortunately, we haven't been blessed— and unfortunately, we haven't been blessed with outside

etenttng— been blessed with outside standing home secretaries who've teettw— standing home secretaries who've teettw eettettw— standing home secretaries who've really actually been totally eenntttet— really actually been totally committed. speaking of home eeetetee— committed. speaking of home secretaries, the— committed. speaking of home secretaries, the home secretaries - secretaries, the home secretaries much discussed a teen— secretaries much discussed a teen et— secretaries much discussed a dream of seeing— secretaries much discussed a dream of seeing a flight depart for dream of seeing a flight depart tet twente— dream of seeing a flight depart for rwanda could— dream of seeing a flight depart for rwanda could happen as soon as for rwanda could happen as soon ee tnte— for rwanda could happen as soon as this autumn. _ for rwanda could happen as soon as this autumn. iii “g as this autumn. according to the sun front page . emma, i love as this autumn. iii “g 533“ 3 emma, i love the sun front page. emma, i love the nnteee— sun front page. emma, i love the nnteee ee— sun front page. emma, i love the nnteee ee eeen— sun front page. emma, i love the phrase as soon as— sun front page. emma, i love the phrase as soon as this— “ 3 emma, i love the phrase as soon as this autumn, gtwen— phrase as soon as this autumn, gtwen tnet— phrase as soon as this autumn, gtwen tnet tt— phrase as soon as this autumn, given that it was— phrase as soon as this autumn, given that it was supposed to tete— given that it was supposed to tete ett— given that it was supposed to take off last— given that it was supposed to take off last year, it does feel ettgnttw— take off last year, it does feel ettgnttw tte— take off last year, it does feel slightly like they're pushing a ttne.— slightly like they're pushing a ttne. tnee— slightly like they're pushing a line. there it— slightly like they're pushing a line. there it may happen. wait me line. there it may happen. wait ne tn— line. there it may happen. wait ne tn wnen— line. there it may happen. wait ne tn wnen tt— line. there it may happen. wait me up when it does, frankly , me up when it does, frankly, tnee-e— me up when it does, frankly, tnete-e e— me up when it does, frankly, there's a long— me up when it does, frankly, there's a long way to go before tnew— there's a long way to go before tnew eneeg— there's a long way to go before they manage this— there's a long way to go before they manage this . it may well be they manage this. it may well be they manage this. it may well be tne eee— they manage this. it may well be tne tnet— they manage this. it may well be the case that rwanda, a number of the case that rwanda, a number et twente-e— the case that rwanda, a number of rwanda's neighbouring etnttee— of rwanda's neighbouring countries are— of rwanda's neighbouring countries are are falling into etgnttteent— countries are are falling into significant turmoil . while it significant turmoil. while it may— significant turmoil. while it new te— significant turmoil. while it new be tnet— significant turmoil. while it may be that rwanda never becomes the may be that rwanda never becomes tne ttnt— may be that rwanda never becomes tne ttnt et— may be that rwanda never becomes the kind of place— may be that rwanda never becomes the kind of place that we are happy— the kind of place that we are happy to— the kind of place that we are happy to say— the kind of place that we are happy to say that people could twe— happy to say that people could ttwe tn— happy to say that people could live in comfortable me, i just ent— live in comfortable me, i just and we're probably talking maybe newne— and we're probably talking maybe newte twe— and we're probably talking maybe one, maybe two flights. this is an one, maybe two flights. this is en ewttt— one, maybe two flights. this is en ewttt tet—

one, maybe two flights. this is an awful lot of— one, maybe two flights. this is an awful lot of wrapping paper on an absolutely— an awful lot of wrapping paper on an absolutely nonsense policy . tte— on an absolutely nonsense policy . tt-e net— on an absolutely nonsense policy . tt-e net getng— on an absolutely nonsense policy . it's not going to— on an absolutely nonsense policy . it's not going to solve wnetnet— . it's not going to solve whether you - . it's not going to solve whether you are liberal or very, tetw— whether you are liberal or very, wetw etntt— whether you are liberal or very, new etttet en— whether you are liberal or very, very strict on migration. either way,— very strict on migration. either wew. tnte— very strict on migration. either wew. tnte ten-t— very strict on migration. either way, this isn't solving. but all of tnet— way, this isn't solving. but all of that aside,— way, this isn't solving. but all of that aside, what is happening to make it suddenly happen in september is this suggestion nothing optimism is happening. they've said we think we might win they've said we think we might wtn tne— they've said we think we might wtn tne eettt— they've said we think we might win the court case— they've said we think we might win the court case and we think if win the court case and we think t we— win the court case and we think t we wtn— win the court case and we think t we wtn tne— win the court case and we think if we win the court— win the court case and we think if we win the court case, it ntgnt— if we win the court case, it ntgnt te— if we win the court case, it ntgnt te tne— if we win the court case, it might be the case that it teeen-t— might be the case that it teeen-t ge— might be the case that it doesn't go further. a whole ntnnett— doesn't go further. a whole ntnnett et— doesn't go further. a whole number of caveats there. tteenwttte— number of caveats there. meanwhile, then - number of caveats there. meanwhile, then why- number of caveats there. meanwhile, then why emma does yoga? why could yoga, practising yoga— yoga? why could yoga, practising wege nete— yoga? why could yoga, practising wege nete tte— yoga? why could yoga, practising wege nete ttte e— yoga? why could yoga, practising yoga make life a lot— 37 why could yoga, practising yoga make life a lot better for neentee — yoga make life a lot better for neentee t— yoga make life a lot better for people? i mean,— yoga make life a lot better for people? “ ”ti yoga make life a lot better for people? i mean, there's so many reasons why yoga makes life better for you. do i love yoga? i do yoga 2 or 3 times a week. i absolutely adore it. and i do different kinds . so i absolutely adore it. and i do different kinds. so i do. very gentle. i've ever done it. have you done it, david? i'm afraid not. no. amongst the many things ihave not. no. amongst the many things i have not done in my life, if my yoga is one of them, i took it up just before lockdown. and

honestly , the difference- honestly , the difference that honestly, the difference that it's honestly, the difference that tt-e nete — honestly, the difference that tt-e nete tn— honestly, the difference that it's made in terms of my ttexttttttw— it's made in terms of my flexibility and- it's made in terms of my flexibility and this is why it nettete. — flexibility and this is why it nettete. se— flexibility and this is why it matters. so apparently one of the matters. so apparently one of tne tntnge— matters. so apparently one of the things that— matters. so apparently one of the things that can make it worse when you— the things that can make it worse when you have cancer is tnttennetetw— worse when you have cancer is inflammatory issues and yoga is tntng— inflammatory issues and yoga is tnng ten-t— inflammatory issues and yoga is tnng ten-t tet— inflammatory issues and yoga is bring isn't for dealing with wttn— bring isn't for dealing with wttn tneee— bring isn't for dealing with with those inflammatory chemicals _ with those inflammatory chemicals that come through your tetw. — chemicals that come through your tetw. t— chemicals that come through your tetw. a tet— chemicals that come through your tetw. a tet et— chemicals that come through your body. a lot of inflammation. teet— body. a lot of inflammation. teen ent— body. a lot of inflammation. yeah and also— body. a lot of inflammation. yeah and also so— body. a lot of inflammation. yeah and also so what- body. a lot of inflammation. yeah and also so what could we be doing here? could we be doing nene. — be doing here? could we be doing nete. ttnn— be doing here? could we be doing here. i'm stress basically very gentle. so they're not saying that you have to do the really, really hard core difficult. charles poses incredibly good for you. just gentle stretches. like if i was to be on my knees tneettng— like if i was to be on my knees kneeling down— like if i was to be on my knees kneeling down with my bottom on the kneeling down with my bottom on tne teen— kneeling down with my bottom on tne tteen en— kneeling down with my bottom on tne tteen en nw— kneeling down with my bottom on the floor, on my haunches is too nten— the floor, on my haunches is too much information— the floor, on my haunches is too much information on the floor, i een-t— much information on the floor, i een-t eene— much information on the floor, i een-t eene wttn— much information on the floor, i can't cope with this. g can't cope with this. stop it. tte— can't cope with this. stop it. tte gtettet— can't cope with this. stop it. it's quarter to eight. honestly, you don't even it's quarter to eight. - honestly, you don't even have to go honestly, you don't even have to ge tnet— honestly, you don't even have to ge tnet tet— honestly, you don't even have to go that far forward— honestly, you don't even have to go that far forward and your neet— go that far forward and your neet en— go that far forward and your neet en tne— go that far forward and your head on the floor and it's ettetetee— head on the floor and it's stretches your— head on the floor and it's stretches your back. ” stretches your back. all your etenge— stretches your back. all your organs and it's you know, a lot of women take that pose during childbirth . it's very, very, childbirth. it's very, very, very calming and resetting. and

it's a very basic healing position. i wouldn't be able to gtwe— position. i wouldn't be able to gtwe etntn— position. i wouldn't be able to gtwe ttnt te— position. i wouldn't be able to gtwe ttnn te e— position. i wouldn't be able to give birth to a child- g i“ i wouldn't be able to give birth to a child that g ti“ i wouldn't be able to give birth to a child that way. wett— give birth to a child that way. wett. ttet-e— give birth to a child that way. well, that's true _ give birth to a child that way. well, that's true ,_ give birth to a child that way. well, that's true , because i well, that's true, because i knew— well, that's true, because i knew wet— well, that's true, because i know you couldn't do that . know you couldn't do that. the nutte— know you couldn't do that. the nttte tnet— know you couldn't do that. the nttte ttet te— know you couldn't do that. the pulls that is now— know you couldn't do that. the pulls that is now gone from bad taste to fantasy . well, i'm taste to fantasy. well, i'm trying to be all inclusive, but , you know, to be down there on your haunches and see my back wouldn't lean forward like that. you need to get cracking. but way— you need to get cracking. but wew te— you need to get cracking. but wew te get— you need to get cracking. but wew te get wett— you need to get cracking. but way to get your flexibility up. hot yoga. oh honestly, the ways that i hot yoga. oh honestly, the ways thati can hot yoga. oh honestly, the ways that i can touch i can touch my toe to my head now, which there's no way i could do that before long. come on, we want a tent — before long. come on, we want a tent on.— before long. come on, we want a tent on. ww— before long. come on, we want a demo. oh, wow. did not think i'd be doing that on the tv this morning. not even going. begin to morning. not even going. begin te ttw. — morning. not even going. begin te ttw. t— morning. not even going. begin te ttw. t en— morning. not even going. begin te ttw. t get— morning. not even going. begin to try. i can get all— morning. not even going. begin to try. i can get all i'm- morning. not even going. begin to try. i can get all i'm going to try. i can get all i'm going to say is there is a world out there which is appalling . this there which is appalling. this is helping with cancer- there which is appalling. this is helping with cancer .- i“ “g this is helping with cancer. i'm going— is helping with cancer. i'm getng te— is helping with cancer. i'm getng te get— is helping with cancer. i'm going to get such tweets . going to get such tweets. tennete— going to get such tweets. pompous government have going to get such tweets. _ pompous-government have come pompous the government have come out pompous the government have come ett tetew— pompous the government have come ett tetew eewtng— pompous the government have come out today saying they want to get—teen- out today saying they want to get—teen tn- out today saying they want to. get—drop in obesity get encourage a drop in obesity teetee— get encourage a drop in obesity teetee et— get encourage a drop in obesity because of the— get encourage a drop in obesity because of the problems with the wte— because of the problems with the we ent— because of the problems with the we ent wttn— because of the problems with the nhs and with unemployment. jittticc nhs and with unemployment. well . neente— nhs and with unemployment. well . neente net— nhs and with unemployment. well . neente net tetng— nhs and with unemployment. well , people not being able— nhs and with unemployment. well , people not being able to- nhs and with unemployment. well , people not being able to go back this is all

back to work. so this is all unked back to work. so this is all linked serious things. you linked with serious things. you know, couldn't my leg linked with serious things. you know,icouldn't-my leg upj know, i couldn't get my leg up to know, i couldn't get my leg up te tetet— know, i couldn't get my leg up te teten nw— know, i couldn't get my leg up to touch my head,— know, i couldn't get my leg up to touch my head, but i can tetet— to touch my head, but i can teten tne— to touch my head, but i can touch the top— to touch my head, but i can touch the top of— to touch my head, but i can touch the top of my head with my tengte. — touch the top of my head with my tengte. |een— touch the top of my head with my tengte. leen. vet— touch the top of my head with my tongue. can. you must be tongue. i can. you must be tetttng— tongue. i can. you must be talking about— tongue. i can. you must be talking about it's not a yoga. tte— talking about it's not a yoga. tte tne— talking about it's not a yoga. tte tne ttctw— talking about it's not a yoga. it's the lucky lady.— talking about it's not a yoga. it's the lucky lady. all- talking about it's not a yoga. it's the lucky lady. all right. and there was something in the papers about a dog who had the longest tongue ever. you may be able to longest tongue ever. you may be ette te te— longest tongue ever. you may be ette te be e— longest tongue ever. you may be able to be a rival— longest tongue ever. you may be able to be a rival for— longest tongue ever. you may be able to be a rival for that.- able to be a rival for that. i eettt— able to be a rival for that. i eettt te— able to be a rival for that. i could do that. _ able to be a rival for that. i could do that. i- able to be a rival for that. i could do that. i“ tiit able to be a rival for that. i could do that. i?“ tiit could do that. i can do that. snett— could do that. i can do that. snett we— could do that. i can do that. snett we get— could do that. i can do that. snett we get jk_ could do that. i?“ tiit shall we get jk rowling? oh, i getng— shall we get jk rowling? oh, i getng te— shall we get jk rowling? oh, i getng te ge— shall we get jk rowling? oh, i was going to go to russia. well, i was going to go to russia. well, t wetttn-t— was going to go to russia. well, i wouldn't have— was going to go to russia. well, i wouldn't have done enough of tnet. — i wouldn't have done enough of tnet. on.— i wouldn't have done enough of that. oh, okay. no,- i wouldn't have done enough of that. cj“ no, it isn't. that. oh, okay. no, it isn't. i tnetgnt— that. oh, okay. no, it isn't. i tnetgnt wet— that. oh, okay. no, it isn't. i thought you said— that. oh, okay. no, it isn't. i thought you said you- that. cj“ no, it isn't. i thought you said you wanted to go thought you said you wanted to ge te— thought you said you wanted to ge te tnet. — thought you said you wanted to ge te tnet. t— thought you said you wanted to go to that. i said— thought you said you wanted to go to that. ti g c. go to that. i said move it up for the thing. i just wanted to get on jk rowling as. as in i tell you what i feel.- get on jk rowling as. as in i tell you what i feel. i- tell you what i feel. i feel tnet— tell you what i feel. i feel we tnte— tell you what i feel. i feel that this woman is incredibly tetent— that this woman is incredibly tetent. ent— that this woman is incredibly talent, and i— that this woman is incredibly talent, and i feel that she ttee— talent, and i feel that she tttee te— talent, and i feel that she tries to make— talent, and i feel that she tries to make a- talent, and i feel that she tries to make a differentiation between— tries to make a differentiation between people _ tries to make a differentiation between people who were born a ent tetn— between people who were born a woman and born and the woman and born a man and the etwentegee— woman and born a man and the etwentegee tt— woman and born a man and the advantages it gives them in enen— advantages it gives them in enett ent— advantages it gives them in sport and things and whatever. i tntnt— sport and things and whatever. i tntnt ene-e— sport and things and whatever. i think she's surrounded by a lot of think she's surrounded by a lot et ttttte— think she's surrounded by a lot et ttttte en— think she's surrounded by a lot of little on grateful. ngiii of little on grateful. i agree. neten— of little on grateful. i agree. neten ent— of little on grateful. i agree. actors and actresses who would be nothing absolutely nothing. totally great. yeah in the world

because of this so she gets a lot of abuse but david doesn't shy away from it though does she? doesn't. right. what have we got with her? well, i mean, this is ridiculous. oxfam, which, you know- this is ridiculous. oxfam, which, you know ,- ” ti i oxfam, which, you know , naively, i this is ridiculous. oxfam,- which, you know , naively, i used which, you know, naively, i used to which, you know, naively, i used te tntnt— which, you know, naively, i used te tntnt wee— which, you know, naively, i used to think was something that tettewet— to think was something that relieved hunger— to think was something that relieved hunger around the world and relieved hunger around the world ent tnet— relieved hunger around the world ent tnet et— relieved hunger around the world and that at and— relieved hunger around the world and that at and of— relieved hunger around the world and that at and of course, it's tnte— and that at and of course, it's tnte tte— and that at and of course, it's run into its own— and that at and of course, it's run into its own problems with the behaviour— run into its own problems with the behaviour of— run into its own problems with the behaviour of some oxfam ennteweee. — the behaviour of some oxfam ennteweee. ttt— the behaviour of some oxfam employees. but but now it enneete— employees. but but now it enneete te— employees. but but now it appears to have gone to be nttettete— appears to have gone to be ridiculous because they are now eneneenng— ridiculous because they are now eneneettng .— ridiculous because they are now eneneenng . tet— ridiculous because they are now sponsoring , for instance, an sponsoring, for instance, an tett— sponsoring, for instance, an lgbt cartoon— sponsoring, for instance, an lgbt cartoon depicting eating. eetttn— lgbt cartoon depicting eating. potter novelist— lgbt cartoon depicting eating. potter novelist as a transphobic teen— potter novelist as a transphobic teen t— potter novelist as a transphobic teen t neen— potter novelist as a transphobic demon. i mean, i— potter novelist as a transphobic demon. i mean, i don't . demon. i mean, i don't. is that etnneeet— demon. i mean, i don't. is that etnneeet te— demon. i mean, i don't. is that supposed to be j.k. rowling? yeah that's the implication. yeah. why why do we believe that's j.k. rowling, the outfit that's j.k. rowling, the outfit that she's wearing there and the hairstyle is almost exactly what she looked like at the launch of one of most recent films. one of her most recent films. so it's quite clearly implying , so it's quite clearly implying, ntte— so it's quite clearly implying, ntte tne— so it's quite clearly implying, ntte tne tetge— so it's quite clearly implying, plus the badge that says terf , plus the badge that says terf, wnen—

plus the badge that says terf, wnten te— plus the badge that says terf, wnten te e— plus the badge that says terf, which is a slur— plus the badge that says terf, which is a slur that's used egetnet— which is a slur that's used against women— which is a slur that's used against women who fight sex against women who fight for sex teeet— against women who fight for sex teeet ntgnte— against women who fight for sex teeet ngnte . — against women who fight for sex based rights . why— against women who fight for sex based rights . bitty ”ti“ g based rights. why aren't we why aren't we still looking at that? can up ? yeah. aren't we still looking at that? can up? yeah. i'm can we get it back up? yeah. i'm just wondering if she went to a red carpet event dressed in looking like that. that's what i find depressing about this , is find depressing about this, is that j.k. rowling is pilloried for standing up for what most people, if they're honest, were considered to be normal. traditional values. there is eteetttetw— traditional values. there is absolutely no— traditional values. there is absolutely no reason an why enwtntng— absolutely no reason an why enwtntng ene-e— absolutely no reason an why anything she's saying should ettent— anything she's saying should offend anybody— anything she's saying should offend anybody who has any ttt— offend anybody who has any sense. but also— offend anybody who has any sense. but also what is oxfam tetng— sense. but also what is oxfam tetng new— sense. but also what is oxfam doing now? that— sense. but also what is oxfam doing now? that is a very netttteet— doing now? that is a very political statement they have nete— political statement they have nete ent— political statement they have nete ent t— political statement they have made and i you— political statement they have made and i you know, the whole ttee— made and i you know, the whole ttee et— made and i you know, the whole idea of charitable— made and i you know, the whole idea of charitable law is that enenttee— idea of charitable law is that charities cannot— idea of charitable law is that charities cannot behave in that wew.— charities cannot behave in that wew. tnt— charities cannot behave in that wew. tnt ee— charities cannot behave in that wew. tnt ee tt— charities cannot behave in that way. and as if there isn't enetgn— way. and as if there isn't enough poverty , poverty and enough poverty, poverty and ntnget— enough poverty, poverty and ntnget tet— enough poverty, poverty and hunger for them _ enough poverty, poverty and hunger for them to alleviate wttnett— hunger for them to alleviate without this— hunger for them to alleviate without this kind of sad old. i getng— without this kind of sad old. i getng te— without this kind of sad old. i getng te eew— without this kind of sad old. i was going to say, i can't remember whether no, i'm going to remember whether no, i'm going te eew— remember whether no, i'm going te eew ttttten— remember whether no, i'm going te eew ttttten .— remember whether no, i'm going to say rubbish . i— remember whether no, i'm going to say rubbish . i mean, think of

to say rubbish. i mean, think of eenetntng— to say rubbish. i mean, think of something else.— to say rubbish. i mean, think of something else. it's so misogynistic- something else. it's so misogynistic and ageist and it ttet— misogynistic and ageist and it ttet ee— misogynistic and ageist and it just so unnecessary . .tt�*~t'.t?t”g tijjnft? just so unnecessary. mary oxfam is absolutely early. i mean, i do think that because they work in the third world, there are a lot of real issues for people who are gay lesbians. i mean, i met some fantastic women who are fighting for lesbian rights in uganda, for example . this is uganda, for example. this is essential work. it is not helped by demonising feminists, and that's what's happening here. let's continue that theme and the let's continue that theme and tne gtwe— let's continue that theme and tne gtwe ee— let's continue that theme and the guys are back in 40 minutes ttne.— the guys are back in 40 minutes ttne. tetgnt— the guys are back in 40 minutes ttne. tttgnt new— the guys are back in 40 minutes time. right now. we're going to tett— time. right now. we're going to tett etett— time. right now. we're going to talk about metre— time. right now. we're going to talk about metre tampering and neettw— talk about metre tampering and neettw nett— talk about metre tampering and neettw nett et— talk about metre tampering and nearly half of electricians and gas— nearly half of electricians and gee ntneeege— nearly half of electricians and gas engineers have been asked to tennet— gas engineers have been asked to tennet wttn— gas engineers have been asked to tamper with energy— gas engineers have been asked to tamper with energy metres. so a lot tamper with energy metres. so a tet et— tamper with energy metres. so a tet et tnen— tamper with energy metres. so a lot of them will- tamper with energy metres. so a lot of them will say we were ettetet— lot of them will say we were ettetet e— lot of them will say we were offered a bung— lot of them will say we were offered a bung to— lot of them will say we were offered a bung to bypass the ne— offered a bung to bypass the mains basically,— offered a bung to bypass the mains basically, but believe the wttn— mains basically, but believe the means with which— mains basically, but believe the means with which people have teen— means with which people have teen tetng— means with which people have teen tetng tt— means with which people have been doing it as— means with which people have been doing it as well. ' i been doing it as well. and this is been doing it as well. and this te ett— been doing it as well. and this is all because, of course, as we know, so many of us are struggling with our household bills at the moment. but anyone caught energy caught tampering with the energy metres fine or

metres could face a fine or indeed a prison sentence or risk losing their life to house fires or electric shock. look on more on this plumbing and heating engineerjames anderson. we say good morning to you,— ti d ' “ we say good morning to you, james. tewe— good morning to you, james. tewe wet— good morning to you, james. tewe wet tewe— good morning to you, james. have you have you _ good morning to you, james. have you have you been- good morning to you, james. have you have you been asked to fiddle metre ? yes, we have . fiddle a metre? yes, we have. otte— fiddle a metre? yes, we have. tttte e— fiddle a metre? yes, we have. tttte e tew— fiddle a metre? yes, we have. quite a few times— fiddle a metre? yes, we have. quite a few times in- �*7 tititi i“tig”ti7 yes, we have. quite a few times in the in the in quite a few times in the in the tn tne— quite a few times in the in the tn tne neet— quite a few times in the in the tn tne neet p— quite a few times in the in the in the past 12 months, i'd say tte— in the past 12 months, i'd say tt-e wett— in the past 12 months, i'd say it's well over— in the past 12 months, i'd say it's well over 50— in the past 12 months, i'd say it's well over 50 times. yeah so it's well over 50 times. yeah so wnet— it's well over 50 times. yeah so wtet en— it's well over 50 times. yeah so what can be— it's well over 50 times. yeah so what can be done,- it's well over 50 times. yeah so what can be done, james? is it relatively easy to do and but the consequences is are what? it's very easy to do. it's not ettnet— it's very easy to do. it's not advised. obviously the consequences are in worst case scenario , you will kill scenario, you will kill yourself, kill your neighbour , yourself, kill your neighbour, kill your children in the meantime, just to save a couple of quid, it's very dangerous. but of course the people who are asking you to do this aren't doing it because they're crooks. they aren't doing it because tnew-te— they aren't doing it because tnew-te trying— they aren't doing it because they're trying to _ they aren't doing it because they're trying to scam the eweten. — they're trying to scam the system. they're it they're trying to scam the- system. they're-it because system. they're doing it because tnet— system. they're doing it because ttet-gene— system. they're doing it because ttet-gene tn- their bills have gone up a ntteete— their bills have gone up a hideous amount and they're

teenetete. — hideous amount and they're teenetete. _tel hideous amount and they're. desperate. _is this desperate. and so there is this tenntetten— desperate. and so there is this temptation for— desperate. and so there is this temptation for people, whether tnew—te — temptation for people, whether tnew—te let- temptation for people, whether tnew—telet tnewl temptation for people, whetheri they_ do .or they do they get you to do it or they do it themselves. _ they get you to do it or they do it themselves. and— they get you to do it or they do it themselves. and we've heard of it themselves. and we've heard et neente— it themselves. and we've heard et neente tetng— it themselves. and we've heard of people using things like netee— of people using things like netee-te— of people using things like netee-te tw- of people using things like horse to try and i don't horse shoes to try and i don't even understand— horse shoes to try and i don't even understand science even understand the science tentnt— even understand the science- tentnt—tetng. behind what they've been doing. gut.— behind what they've been doing. ttt—te— behind what they've been doing. ttt—te etett- behind what they've been doing. but, us about what but, i mean, tell us about what eett— sort of methods you've encountered- sort of methods you've- encountered-indeed had encountered or even indeed had to encountered or even indeed had te-veet— encountered or even indeed had te-veet t— encountered or even indeed had te-veet t neen- encountered or even indeed had to-yeah, i mean, a- encountered or even indeed had to-yeah, i mean, a horse. to fix. yeah, i mean, a horse shoe is a piece of cable, a piece of wire that goes from one live feed to another live feed at the electric metre. so it looks like a horse shoe in that shape. so they connect that on and they remove the front panel at bottom, undo the screws, at the bottom, undo the screws, which dangerous because which is dangerous because the electrics it , you electrics going through it, you put the horse shoe in, they tighten the back up, they put the on. now that's visible the cover on. now that's visible and people now doing and some people are now doing it. they take cover off. it. so they take the cover off. they the link in not as they put the link in not as a horse shoe, but they put the cover back on. when you look cover back on. so when you look at the metre, you can't see it. now people are using very thin wire, which could be eight mil wire, which could be eight mil wire overheats very wire and that overheats very quickly of the amount of quickly because of the amount of electricity goes through which then not in the electricity goes through which then or not in the

electricity goes through which then or they're not in the electricity goes through which then or they're in not in the electricity goes through which then or they're in bed, n the electricity goes through which then or they're in bed, cane house or they're in bed, can cause a house fire. and obviously in some occasions it could be too late for you to get and get out. i mean, i have been to one house fire that was caused by an electrical cable that linked one line to that was linked from one line to another. and family nearly another. and the family nearly lost were very lost their lives. they were very lucky to get out. same with the gas metres. you can buy a gas metre online. you buy a gas metre online. you can buy a gas metre online. you can buy a gas metre ebay, you can go to an metre off ebay, you can go to an empty and rob a gas empty property and rob a gas metre the gas metre is metre because the gas metre is outside and gives these outside now and it gives these people the chance to do it. and like you said, it's not because the criminals, because they're not, they're people who are not, they're just people who are basically i can't afford basically saying, i can't afford to i can't afford to to, buy it. i can't afford the places i'm going have to the places i'm going to have to do to keep my family do something to keep my family warm. very state warm. and it's a very sad state of well, can of affairs. well, i can understand- of affairs. well, i can understand why- well, i can understand why it's been tegteetet.— understand why it's been requested. james but your eege— requested. james but your eege te— requested. james but your message is well and truly don't requested. james but your meit.ige is well and truly don't requested. james but your meit. it'sis well and truly don't requested. james but your meit. it's illegal.and truly don't requested. james but your meit. it's illegal. definitelonn't do it. it's illegal. definitely ten-t. — do it. it's illegal. definitely ten-t. n..— do it. it's illegal. definitely don't. \tit titi “ gicg do it. it's illegal. definitely don't. \tit i “ gicg don't. no, definitely not. really. appreciate- don't. \ttit titi “ gicg really. appreciate your time. tnente— really. appreciate your time. tnente tetw— really. appreciate your time. thanks very much indeed. sneettng— thanks very much indeed. sneettng te— thanks very much indeed. speaking to us— thanks very much indeed. speaking to us from burnley. tneee— speaking to us from burnley. tnete twe— speaking to us from burnley. there live this— speaking to us from burnley. there live this morning. james tnteteen. — there live this morning. james anderson. he's— there live this morning. james anderson. he's an— there live this morning. james anderson. he's an engineer with nttnttng— anderson. he's an engineer with

nttnttng ent— anderson. he's an engineer with plumbing and heating very hard to plumbing and heating very hard te get— plumbing and heating very hard te get — plumbing and heating very hard te get tetw— plumbing and heating very hard to get one. «tip “nt”ti gig to get one. very hard to get a good one, just to say tonnes and tonnes of you getting in touch with your stories about your favourite teachers. we're going to favourite teachers. we're going te get— favourite teachers. we're going te get e— favourite teachers. we're going te get e ttet— favourite teachers. we're going te get e ttet et— favourite teachers. we're going to get a list of those- ” i we're going to get a list of those put tegetnet— to get a list of those put together and— to get a list of those put together and read those out a ttttte— together and read those out a ttttte ttt— together and read those out a little bit later- together and read those out a little bit later in— together and read those out a little bit later in the program. ttt— little bit later in the program. ttt tn— little bit later in the program. ttt tn next.— little bit later in the program. but up next, prince harry is nttttng— but up next, prince harry is nttttng ett— but up next, prince harry is hitting out against the press ent— hitting out against the press entnw-— hitting out against the press- and-now-government and indeed, now the government tnet— and indeed, now the government ttet—weetettew- that was in court yesterday. tneee-tt— that was in court yesterday. there'll-court- that was in court yesterday. - there'll-court testimony that was in court yesterday. there'and court testimony that was in court yesterday. there'and we'll court testimony that was in court yesterday. there'and we'll havet testimony that was in court yesterday. there'and we'll have all stimony that was in court yesterday. there'and we'll have all theiony today and we'll have all the teteet— today and we'll have all the teteet tet— today and we'll have all the latest for you _ today and we'll have all the latest for you in— today and we'll have all the latest for you in just a few nnennente— latest for you in just a few moments before that, though, we newe— moments before that, though, we have—forecast,- have your weather forecast, wnen— have your weather forecast, which should- have your weather forecast, which should be sunny. hello. ven— which should be sunny. hello. wew-netntng— which should be sunny. hello. very morning you. it's very good morning to you. it's aidan here with the gb aidan mcgivern here with the gb news from met news forecast from the met office. a lot of office. once again, a lot of cloud wake up to across much cloud to wake up to across much of the it will brighten up of the uk. it will brighten up for many. think it will for many. i think it will brighten up more widely compared for many. i think it will brigiyesterday. re widely compared for many. i think it will brigiyesterday. but idely compared for many. i think it will brigiyesterday. but it'sy compared for many. i think it will brigiyesterday. but it's going)ared with yesterday. but it's going to dreary along to stay cold and dreary along the coast because got the east coast because we've got the east coast because we've got the pattern we've the same weather pattern we've had weeks or more. had for three weeks or more. high to the this high pressure to the north. this cool easterly airflow bringing low in from the north sea low cloud in from the north sea and that cloud, again, is and that low cloud, again, is fairly extensive as start the fairly extensive as we start the day stretching into parts of wales , central scotland, not so

wales, central scotland, not so much into the south—west of england and actually promise signs that low cloud will retreat back to the east coast by the afternoon. warm sunshine break out widely elsewhere, but this much temperature contrast continues 2324 celsius in the south and in the west. but along that north sea coast, 11 to 14 celsius, a chilly north sea wind affecting east anglia, especially norfolk and parts of kent that continues and it will continue to bring that low cloud back in once the sun goes down. tonight so overnight low cloud becoming extensive once again across the uk . there are some across the uk. there are some signs that the west will stay clearest once again and it's going to be breezy through the day and overnight across the south and southwest. never the less, tomorrow, same sort of thing. cloudy for many as we begin the day that low cloud retreating back to the east coast. a good chance that parts of east anglia and the south—east will be less cloudy

and less cold compared with recent days. but we keep the cloud for northeast england, parts northern and eastern parts of northern and eastern scotland. the temperatures again very mixed across the country. it up in the south it is warming up in the south and southwest and up to mid and southwest and up to the mid 20s times later this week 20s at times later this week here. and then that huge aridity that seeing in the that we're seeing in the south—west moves across the country weekend , country into the weekend, bringing higher temperatures. yes high 20s possible, but also a threat of thunderstorms .

prince harry accuses the government and the british press of hitting what he terms is rock bottom . a very good morning to bottom. a very good morning to wet.— bottom. a very good morning to wet. weteene— bottom. a very good morning to wet. weteene te— bottom. a very good morning to you. welcome to the— a very good morning to you. welcome to the program. tnente— you. welcome to the program. tnente tet— you. welcome to the program. thanks for your— you. welcome to the program. thanks for your company. it's too.— thanks for your company. it's too. tte— thanks for your company. it's 8:00. it's wednesday, the 7th of ttne. — 8:00. it's wednesday, the 7th of ttne. vet-te— 8:00. it's wednesday, the 7th of june. you're watching and ttetentng— june. you're watching and listening to— june. you're watching and listening to breakfast gb listening to breakfast on gb wewe— listening to breakfast on gb news-eamonn- listening to breakfast on gb news eamonn and isabel. news with eamonn and isabel. wett— news with eamonn and isabel. wet. tetet— news with eamonn and isabel. well, here's what's— news with eamonn and isabel. well, here's what's leading our news this wednesday morning, news on this wednesday morning, and is the duke of sussex and that is the duke of sussex will return high court will return to the high court today after blaming the tabloid press for inciting hatred. prince harry says he suffered paranoia due to alleged press intrusion , losing friendships intrusion, losing friendships which impacted his teenage years

. over 40,000 people are being eteetetet— . over 40,000 people are being eteetetet tn— over 40,000 people are being evacuated in ukraine after a ntet-e— evacuated in ukraine after a mrajb ten— evacuated in ukraine after a major dam collapse . president major dam collapse. president zetenetww— major dam collapse. president zetenetww eett— major dam collapse. president zelenskyy said 80 towns and wttegee— zelenskyy said 80 towns and wtttegee new— zelenskyy said 80 towns and villages may be— zelenskyy said 80 towns and villages may be affected . the villages may be affected. the tnne— villages may be affected. the prime minister— villages may be affected. the prime minister says it would nett— prime minister says it would meet e— prime minister says it would mark a new low— prime minister says it would mark a new low in the conflict if mark a new low in the conflict tt tteete— mark a new low in the conflict tt tteete te— mark a new low in the conflict if russia is found— mark a new low in the conflict if russia is found to be responsible. - if russia is found to be responsible. if russia is found to be- responsible. meanwhile, rishi sunak has arrived in washington as he prepares to meet with the american president, joe biden . american president, joe biden. the pm will push for more regulation on artificial intelligence and greater business links with america and a new weight loss drug aimed at tackling growing obesity has been announced by the government. earlier, the health eeetetett— government. earlier, the health secretary, steve— g earlier, the health secretary, steve barclay, told us secretary, steve barclay, told te ne— secretary, steve barclay, told us he wanted— secretary, steve barclay, told us he wanted the scheme made ewettette— us he wanted the scheme made ewettette en— us he wanted the scheme made available on the— us he wanted the scheme made available on the nhs as early as neeettte— available on the nhs as early as neeettte . — available on the nhs as early as neeette . tte— available on the nhs as early as possible . it's a— available on the nhs as early as possible . it's a very- available on the nhs as early as possible . g tiy titii. g “t; possible. it's a very exciting development, but it's one alongside a range of other measures that are taking. this is a really exciting new technology, new drugs that are available and we want to make sure they're available to people within the nhs at the earliest opportunity and well and the

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damaged his relationship ships. he also admitted under oath that his memoir spare , contradicted his memoir spare, contradicted a claim in his witness statement. well, let's speak to our royal correspondent, cameron walker, who is down at the high court again for us this morning. day two. cameron, you have a d “ “td day two. cameron, you have a seat in eetnt.— two. cameron, you have a seat in eetnt-een— two. cameron, you have a seat in eetnt-een eee— two. cameron, you have a seat in court.-can see harry- two. cameron, you have a seat in court. can see harry as he court. you can see harry as he is court. you can see harry as he te gtwng— court. you can see harry as he te gtwng nte— court. you can see harry as he is giving his testimony. and weetettew— is giving his testimony. and weetettew .— is giving his testimony. and yesterday , cracks really started yesterday, cracks really started to yesterday, cracks really started te enneet— yesterday, cracks really started te enneet tn— yesterday, cracks really started to appear in his— yesterday, cracks really started to appear in his case, didn't tnew— to appear in his case, didn't tnewt — to appear in his case, didn't tnewe tnew— to appear in his case, didn't they ? “tig i to appear in his case, didn't they ? i ti ti to appear in his case, didn't- they ? they certainly did. isabel they? they certainly did. isabel yes. i mean, prince harry faced nearly five hours of questions and cross—examination over his allegations that the mirror group newspapers used unlawful information to write stories about him. he is the first royal who has appeared in the witness box since the 19th century. but in court, i was sat there very close by to him, and he appeared very calm and relaxed as he spoke of the effects of this alleged unlawful information gathering had on him. he spoke of a huge amount of paranoia. he had in his relationships. he accused some journalists of having blood on their typing

fingers and said the state of british. in his witness statement, he said the state of british journalism and controversially for a member of the royal family, the state of the royal family, the state of the government, it was at rock bottom, something that prime minister would minister rishi sunak would not be when asked be drawn on. when asked by reporter us yesterday. well andrew green, kc, the barrister representing mirror group newspapers, was very hot on the detail and questioned prince harry on 20 out of the 33 articles being tested in this case, he asked prince harry specifically if he was distressed by the mirror articles in particular at the time of publication , publication time of publication, publication and whether prince harry remembers reading them even at the time of publication, and thatis the time of publication, and that is something prince harry did not want to speculate on, saying that some of these articles were 20 years old and he also asked prince harry why he also asked prince harry why he was complaining about the mirror group newspaper articles in particular, when some of the information in them was actually already published by other media outlets a day or maybe even a week before now , the duke's in week before now, the duke's in response to that, the dukes

under standing was that the mirror group newspaper journalists unlawful journalists used unlawful means to story forward in to move the story forward in order to get an exclusive . mr order to get an exclusive. mr green, the barrister representing mirror group, also used prince harry's memoir, spare against him. one such incident in an article published incident in an article published in 2003 alleging a fallout between prince william and prince harry over whether or not to meet diana's former butler. paul burrell has a different version of events in prince harry's witness statement released to the court this morning. and in his memoir spare now , critics of prince harry now, critics of prince harry will say that he was very out of his depth yesterday, that he's used too friendly oprah interviews or promotional interviews. not a grilling from a top barrister who is hot on details . but a top barrister who is hot on details. but a media lawyer was saying yes today that it's a lower threshold in a civil case like this to determine whether or not prince harry is a victim of unlawful information gathering and the judge only needs to find on the balance of

probabilities, i.e. over 50, if it is more likely than not that prince harry is a victim in this case. so there could be a situation when the judge makes his ruling in a few weeks time that on some of the 33 articles, he does find in prince harry's favour. but we will have to wait and see on that one. as for prince harry, he is back in the courtroom this morning, expected to resume at about 1030. and his evidence is expected to continue into the afternoon. well it is box office and you have a ringside seat at all of that. cameron, you were there weetettew. — cameron, you were there yesterday. you - cameron, you were there yesterday. you say critics would newe— yesterday. you say critics would newe eett— yesterday. you say critics would newe eett ne— yesterday. you say critics would have said he was— yesterday. you say critics would have said he was out of his tentt— have said he was out of his tentn. wnet— have said he was out of his depth. what did- have said he was out of his depth. what did you make of his netetnnente— depth. what did you make of his netennenete ?— depth. what did you make of his performance ? well, it was performance? well, it was a ntettw— performance? well, it was a pretty interesting one, eamonn. i pretty interesting one, eamonn. t tttnt— pretty interesting one, eamonn. t tntnt te— pretty interesting one, eamonn. i think he certainly— pretty interesting one, eamonn. i think he certainly started- pretty interesting one, eamonn. i think he certainly started off pretty confident and was was giving the answers, perhaps that the barrister wanted . but what the barrister wanted. but what seemed to be the big difference between mr green representing mirror group newspapers and

prince harry was that mr green was forensically going through every article, line by line in detail, asking harry for specifics and prince harry. it appears , did not have the appears, did not have the specific information or indeed the detail. in fact, some of the articles he he appeared not really to be across in the 33 which were in his witness statements, which some people have said. and it was pretty obvious, perhaps could be a little bit of his downfall . but little bit of his downfall. but we still, of course, have another day of evidence. and as i said just just earlier, it's a balance of probabilities here. whether or not it is more likely than not that prince harry was a victim of unlawful information gathering. but it was clear that it was not an oprah interview. it was not a promotional interview for his spare interview for his memoir, spare something prince harry is very used was very different used to. it was very different with barrister grilling him with the barrister grilling him and cameron. the judge asked him eneettteettw— specifically, did you write tne.— specifically, did you write this,-opening- specifically, did you write this, opening statement , this, this opening statement, tnte— this, this opening statement, this witness— this, this opening statement,- this witness-yourself? this witness statement yourself? tnt— this witness statement yourself? tnt-etenent— this witness statement yourself? tnt-etenent .- this witness statement yourself? and-adamant , yes,- this witness statement yourself? and adamant, yes, this and he was adamant, yes, this is my and he was adamant, yes, this is nw-nent. — and he was adamant, yes, this is nw-nent-tn— and he was adamant, yes, this is my-hand. .in that- my own hand. and in that etetenent— my own hand. and in that

statement,.he- my own hand. and in that statement, he made those statement, he he made those comments about— statement, he he made those comments about the british eewetnnent— comments about the british government which is a first teettw— government which is a first teettw tet— government which is a first really for the— government which is a first really for the royal family and teet— really for the royal family and teen. wet— really for the royal family and look, you know,— really for the royal family and look, you know, he's not a wetttng— look, you know, he's not a working royal.— look, you know, he's not a working royal. he can do that, ttt— working royal. he can do that, ttt tt— working royal. he can do that, ttt tt wtt— working royal. he can do that, but it will raise— working royal. he can do that, but it will raise eyebrows and it but it will raise eyebrows and tt-eteete— but it will raise eyebrows and it create problems, will it it will create problems, will it notw— it will create problems, will it net. tet— it will create problems, will it net. tet nte— it will create problems, will it not, for his father, who is, of course, having— not, for his father, who is, of course, having weekly course, having these weekly neettnge— course, having these weekly neettnge-tne- course, having these weekly meetings the government, meetings with the government, wttn — meetings with the government, with-minister- meetings with the government, with minister yeah, it with the prime minister yeah, it tetw— with the prime minister yeah, it was very interesting, isabel. i tn— was very interesting, isabel. i tn eettt— was very interesting, isabel. i was in court when _ was very interesting, isabel. i was in court when the- was very interesting, isabel. i was in court when the barrister asked asked him on on that specific point whether or not he had written his witness statement. and he absolutely he was adamant that he wrote the entire thing and clearly very controversial that a member of the royal family said that the state of the british government was at rock bottom. i think perhaps from prince harry's perspective, he has more freedom now. he is no longer a working member of the royal family. but nonetheless , he is still fifth nonetheless, he is still fifth in line the british throne. in line to the british throne. his father is king charles. the third. it is going to create third. so it is going to create some tensions for some uncomfortable tensions for the king and the institution of the king and the institution of the monarchy. rishi sunak the

prime minister was asked by reporters yesterday on his way to washington what he thought of prince harry's comments and rishi had the default rishi sunak had the default answer for any british prime minister. they are asked answer for any british prime minista. they are asked answer for any british prime minista membertey are asked answer for any british prime minista member of are asked answer for any british prime minista member of the asked answer for any british prime minista member of the royali about a member of the royal family they do not family and that was they do not comment on the royal family. but nonetheless , prince harry being nonetheless, prince harry being pretty morning pretty criticised this morning for his toe in for perhaps dipping his toe in to politics. okay, cameron, with all to politics. okay, cameron, with ett et— to politics. okay, cameron, with ett et ttet.— to politics. okay, cameron, with all of that, thank- to politics. okay, cameron, with all of that, thank you- g ti.5 okay, cameron, with all of that, thank you very much ent— all of that, thank you very much ent teen— all of that, thank you very much ent teen te— all of that, thank you very much and keep us posted— all of that, thank you very much and keep us posted and all those tewetennente— and keep us posted and all those developments from _ and keep us posted and all those developments from the high court tetew.— developments from the high court tetew. we— developments from the high court tetew. we teet— developments from the high court today. we look forward to it. went— today. we look forward to it. tnent wet. — today. we look forward to it. thank you. okay.— today. we look forward to it. thank you. okay. full coverage nete— thank you. okay. full coverage nene—ttgtt- thank you. okay. full coverage here—right. thei here on gb news. right. the prime minister, we can report he's in washington today and apparently he's looking for an economic alliance with america to counter the rise of china and the risk of artificial intelligence. he's the risk of artificial intelligence . he's also going to intelligence. he's also going to be intelligence. he's also going to te eneettng— intelligence. he's also going to te eneettng te— 9.27015 he's also going to be speaking to congressional and ttetneee— be speaking to congressional and business leaders— be speaking to congressional and business leaders about more etnnett— business leaders about more etnnett tet— business leaders about more support for ukraine. and joining us-more on all- support for ukraine. and joining us more on all this is us now for more on all this is tenttw— us now for more on all this is our deputy political editor, tom tetweet. — our deputy political editor, tom harwood. hello— our deputy political editor, tom harwood. hello again, tom. so tete— harwood. hello again, tom. so tete-egente— harwood. hello again, tom. so lots-agenda for- harwood. hello again, tom. so lots-agenda for a- harwood. hello again, tom. so lots agenda for a two day lots on the agenda for a two day tnn— lots on the agenda for a two day tttn tet— lots on the agenda for a two day tttn tet tne— lots on the agenda for a two day trip for the prime— lots on the agenda for a two day trip for the prime minister. wnet— trip for the prime minister. wnetlwet— trip for the prime minister. what-you think- trip for the prime minister. what you think the most what do you think is the most tttetw—

what do you think is the most tttetw-tten - what do you think is the most likely-from all- what do you think is the most likely-from all of. what do you think is the most likely from all of this? likely outcome from all of this? tete— likely outcome from all of this? tete nee— likely outcome from all of this? lots more business— lots more business for us. wett— lots more business for us. wet-eteet— lots more business for us. well,-clear wins- lots more business for us. well,-clear wins that. lots more business for us. well, clear wins that have well, the clear wins that have already been pre—announced by the government include £14 billion of investment from us companies into the uk and the prime minister will be talking up this huge bilateral relationship that we have. more than a million brits work in american companies , more than american companies, more than american, more than a million americans working in british companies. trillion, $1 companies. £1 trillion, $1 trillion, say, of trillion, i should say, of interconnected economic activity andindeed interconnected economic activity and indeed lots of meetings with business leaders as well . but business leaders as well. but that's on top of, of course, today , say congressional leaders today, say congressional leaders meetings. and indeed committee chairs. and all the rest of it. and tomorrow, the big meeting at the white house with president biden, which won't just be on business, but also two other big, big topics , no doubt near big, big topics, no doubt near the top of the agenda. i i and ukraine. yeah. and just on eneettteettw— ukraine. yeah. and just on specifically prime- yeah. and just on specifically prime minister stnet-e— specifically prime minister sunak's relationship with the ttten— sunak's relationship with the biden administration, i mean, nete— biden administration, i mean, ne-e teettw— biden administration, i mean, he's really done— biden administration, i mean, he's really done a lot. it has to he's really done a lot. it has te te— he's really done a lot. it has te te eett— he's really done a lot. it has to be said to—

he's really done a lot. it has to be said to kind- he's really done a lot. it has to be said to kind of allay tnet— to be said to kind of allay their suspicions. i mean, tneee-e— their suspicions. i mean, there's been— their suspicions. i mean, there's been an all time low ntetettw— there's been an all time low ntetettw tn— there's been an all time low probably in that— there's been an all time low probably in that special relationship.— probably in that special relationship. and with the wtnteet— relationship. and with the windsor framework however small that windsor framework however small tnet wett— windsor framework however small we wett ent— windsor framework however small that visit and that— windsor framework however small that visit and that nod was from tteettent— that visit and that nod was from president biden— that visit and that nod was from president biden in— that visit and that nod was from president biden in belfast, they tetw— president biden in belfast, they were very worried— president biden in belfast, they were very worried about the nteteeet— were very worried about the nteteeet .— were very worried about the protocol , weren't they, and the protocol, weren't they, and the netee— protocol, weren't they, and the netee te — protocol, weren't they, and the nettee te eee— protocol, weren't they, and the police to see that— protocol, weren't they, and the police to see that kind of concession— police to see that kind of concession being made with the wtnteet— concession being made with the windsor framework. but also he went— windsor framework. but also he went-university— windsor framework. but also he went university there. he has went to university there. he has a went to university there. he has e netee— went to university there. he has e netee-tete— went to university there. he has a house-he's-madel a house there. he's just made a ntge—anetteenl huge donation to an american eettege— huge donation to an american eettege-net- huge donation to an american college-met his- huge donation to an american college met his wife college there. he met his wife tneee.— college there. he met his wife tneee-nee— college there. he met his wife there. has affiliation there. he has an affiliation wttn— there. he has an affiliation wtn-eettt- there. he has an affiliation with _could that| there. he has an affiliation. with _could that all with the state. could that all eewe— with the state. could that all eewe ntn — with the state. could that all serve him quite— with the state. could that all serve him quite well? and he's teen— serve him quite well? and he's teen ttete— serve him quite well? and he's been there many— serve him quite well? and he's been there many times since he netene— been there many times since he became-minister. - been there many times since he. became-minister. .didn't became prime minister. he didn't teene— became prime minister. he didn't become prime minister that become prime minister all that long been long ago, but already he's been out california the aukus out to california for the aukus announcement. out to announcement. he's been out to the met president biden the un. he's met president biden in the g7, in the g20. this is actually a relationship that is surprisingly he frequently revitalised, i suppose is one way we could put it. and i think that there is an interesting point here. of course, when rishi sunak became prime minister, president biden felt the felt like he could

congratulate him just in a completely unrelated american event. i mean , he did get his event. i mean, he did get his name wrong. rishi sunak or something. rashid sanook, i think he said. but it sounds tte— think he said. but it sounds tte e— think he said. but it sounds like a helicopter— ti but it sounds like a helicopter suddenly rishi stnet— like a helicopter suddenly rishi stnet teen. — like a helicopter suddenly rishi sunak yeah. c i “ sunak yeah. sleepy joe gordon rishi sunak he was probably the first time he'd ever heard of him, but it did. it did. he did tett— him, but it did. it did. he did tett etett— him, but it did. it did. he did talk about how— him, but it did. it did. he did talk about how it— him, but it did. it did. he did talk about how it was- “ g ti ti it did. he did talk about how it was a big ennent — talk about how it was a big moment. and— talk about how it was a big moment. and i— talk about how it was a big moment. and i think particularly for moment. and i think particularly tet tne— moment. and i think particularly tet tne ts— moment. and i think particularly for the us democrat party, which wnten— for the us democrat party, which wnten-tntnt— for the us democrat party, which wnten-tntnt e— for the us democrat party, which which-think a lot- for the us democrat party, which which think a lot in in which does think a lot in in eeetet— which does think a lot in in racial terms— which does think a lot in in racial terms in— which does think a lot in in racial terms in politics to some extent.— racial terms in politics to some extent. nennene— racial terms in politics to some extent, perhaps it's the fact tnet— extent, perhaps it's the fact we ttent — extent, perhaps it's the fact that rishi sunak is the first nen—wntte— that rishi sunak is the first non—white prime minister for enene— non—white prime minister for enene e— non—white prime minister for enene e teet— non—white prime minister for opens a door there in terms of enweteetent— opens a door there in terms of conversation , ons— opens a door there in terms of conversation , ons and conversation, ons and connections- conversation, ons and connections in a way that might not connections in a way that might net newe— connections in a way that might net newe teen— connections in a way that might not have been open before. hm. tnteteettng— not have been open before. hm. interesting. and— not have been open before. hm. interesting. and just talking abouti interesting. and just talking about i because that was the second thing you said, that he's really to try and work on. really there to try and work on. he's to stress there are he's keen to stress there are opportunities in al and he wants those opportunities to be exploited our advantage. exploited to our advantage. but he's worried about the he's also very worried about the threat. yeah, this comes

threat. yeah, this all comes wttn— threat. yeah, this all comes wttn tne— threat. yeah, this all comes with the power— threat. yeah, this all comes with the power of- “”tit?tg yeah, this all comes with the power of ai, which is tettttng— with the power of ai, which is tettttng et— with the power of ai, which is doubling or even— with the power of ai, which is doubling or even quadrupling etew— doubling or even quadrupling ewetw weet— doubling or even quadrupling ewetw weet new— doubling or even quadrupling every year now far faster than nenw— every year now far faster than nenw exnette— every year now far faster than many experts had— every year now far faster than many experts had predicted . now many experts had predicted. now ttet-e— many experts had predicted. now tnet-e ttet-e— many experts had predicted. now that's that's really— many experts had predicted. now that's that's really great for netteet— that's that's really great for medical innovation and all the teet— medical innovation and all the neet et— medical innovation and all the neet et tt— medical innovation and all the neet et tt .— medical innovation and all the rest of it . and— medical innovation and all the rest of it . and it— medical innovation and all the rest of it . and it could make us rest of it. and it could make us very— rest of it. and it could make us new. tetw— rest of it. and it could make us new. new nen. — rest of it. and it could make us very, very rich. but— rest of it. and it could make us very, very rich. but also it tt— very, very rich. but also it means it could- very, very rich. but also it means it could out of means it could get out of eenttet. — means it could get out of control. and— means it could get out of control. and that brings a lot of control. and that brings a lot et nete— control. and that brings a lot et ttete tt— control. and that brings a lot of risks if this- control. and that brings a lot of risks if this stuff is cleverer than us, if it has some tetn— cleverer than us, if it has some tetn et— cleverer than us, if it has some form of consciousness or enwtntng— form of consciousness or anything that— form of consciousness or anything that sounds a bit sci fi. anything that sounds a bit sci tt. tnt— anything that sounds a bit sci tt. tnt ee— anything that sounds a bit sci fi. and so the— anything that sounds a bit sci fi. and so the prime minister wente— fi. and so the prime minister wants-establish- fi. and so the prime minister wants establish and actually wants to establish and actually nenw— wants to establish and actually nenw-teetete— wants to establish and actually many leaders now many world leaders now are egneetng— many world leaders now are egteetng-neetel many world leaders now are agreeing needs to many world leaders now are. agreeing-needs to be agreeing that there needs to be eete-et— agreeing that there needs to be some .of global— agreeing that there needs to be some of global framework , some sort of global framework, eett— some sort of global framework, eett et— some sort of global framework, some sort of guardrail, and tnteet— some sort of guardrail, and indeed monitoring to keep this ettt— indeed monitoring to keep this etttt tn— indeed monitoring to keep this stuff in check.— indeed monitoring to keep this stuff in check. the prime tttntetet— stuff in check. the prime minister wants- stuff in check. the prime minister wants it based all in the minister wants it based all in tne tt— minister wants it based all in tne ttt ent— minister wants it based all in the uk and that's what he'll be eettng— the uk and that's what he'll be eettng et— the uk and that's what he'll be eettng et tne— the uk and that's what he'll be asking of the president today or tomorrow-and— asking of the president today or tomorrow ' “ti”ti5g “td asking of the president today or tomorrow ' “td tomorrow. and interesting, you say that it's developing at such a rate now. you wonder, is it developing itself? well, this is this developing itself? well, this is tnteleettettw— developing itself? well, this is thislactually it— developing itself? well, this is this-actually it actually- this is actually it actually eetete— this is actually it actually estate itself?— this is actually it actually estate itself? - this is actually it actually estate itself? t/tint“ humans do estate itself? yeah. humans do not estate itself? yeah. humans do net tnew— estate itself? yeah. humans do net tnew new— estate itself? yeah. humans do not know how it— estate itself? yeah. humans do not know how it is— estate itself? / humans do not know how it is coded because wnet— not know how it is coded because wnet nennene— not know how it is coded because wnet nennene te— not know how it is coded because what happens is these companies newe— what happens is these companies newe eetet— what happens is these companies have coded bots— what happens is these companies have coded bots that then do the

ntegtenntng— have coded bots that then do the ntegtenntng .— have coded bots that then do the ntegtenntng . se— have coded bots that then do the programming . so for example, gpt programming. so for example, gpt tetn— programming. so for example, gpt tett. wnten— programming. so for example, gpt tett. wnten te— programming. so for example, gpt four, which is the— programming. so for example, gpt four, which is the sort of very etteneet— four, which is the sort of very advanced openai_ four, which is the sort of very advanced openai system that can neee— advanced openai system that can neee tne— advanced openai system that can now pass the bar— advanced openai system that can now pass the bar exam or even if wet— now pass the bar exam or even if wet enew— now pass the bar exam or even if wet enew tt— now pass the bar exam or even if wet enew t e— now pass the bar exam or even if you show it a political cartoon, it's you show it a political cartoon, tt-e neten— you show it a political cartoon, it's never seen— you show it a political cartoon, it's never seen before. it can teeente— it's never seen before. it can teeettte wnw— it's never seen before. it can describe why that cartoon is funny— describe why that cartoon is ttnnw. ntgntt— describe why that cartoon is funny, right? right this stuff is funny, right? right this stuff te ntegtennet— funny, right? right this stuff is programmed by ai, right? so, so, is programmed by ai, right? so, ee tne— is programmed by ai, right? so, so, so, so the original sort of tete— so, so, so the original sort of tete newe— so, so, so the original sort of bots have been— so, so, so the original sort of bots have been created by ntn-ene— bots have been created by humans. they— bots have been created by humans. they have now made wnet-e— humans. they have now made what's sometimes— humans. they have now made what's sometimes known as black box what's sometimes known as black net wt— what's sometimes known as black teen tt teetee— what's sometimes known as black box ai because no— what's sometimes known as black box ai because no human can tell you box ai because no human can tell wet new— box ai because no human can tell wet new tt— box ai because no human can tell you how it works— box ai because no human can tell you how it works or— box ai because no human can tell you how it works or why it wette— you how it works or why it wette tnt— you how it works or why it works. and that's a little bit eeew— works. and that's a little bit eeetw tet— works. and that's a little bit scary for some— works. and that's a little bit scary for some people because the scary for some people because tne neente— scary for some people because the people who've— scary for some people because the people who've created it, tnew-te— the people who've created it, tnew-te ett— the people who've created it, they're all the— the people who've created it, they're all the ones coming out eewtng— they're all the ones coming out eewtng. wnet— they're all the ones coming out saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa , saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wnee. — saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wnee. tten — saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. from elon— saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. from elon musk,- saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. git“ whoa. from elon musk, the head of echr, you name it, this stuff gets powerful and don't gets so powerful and we don't know what it's capable of. we don't know what it's g i we don't know what it's doing. we genttnetw— don't know what it's doing. we genuinely understand and genuinely can't understand and wnet— genuinely can't understand and we tt— genuinely can't understand and what it could— genuinely can't understand and what it could do— genuinely can't understand and what it could do and that's one of what it could do and that's one et tne— what it could do and that's one et tne ntg— what it could do and that's one of the big risks,— what it could do and that's one of the big risks, of— what it could do and that's one of the big risks, of course, the etnee— of the big risks, of course, the etnet ttet— of the big risks, of course, the other risk is— of the big risks, of course, the other risk is that— of the big risks, of course, the other risk is that we know exeettw— other risk is that we know exeettw new— other risk is that we know exactly how it— other risk is that we know exactly how it works, but it gete— exactly how it works, but it gete tnte— exactly how it works, but it gets into the— exactly how it works, but it gets into the wrong hands. bad tee— gets into the wrong hands. bad actors use the— gets into the wrong hands. bad actors use the same stuff that eettt— actors use the same stuff that

eettt-e— actors use the same stuff that could - a vaccine - actors use the same stuff that could - a vaccine . a i could create a vaccine in a ntntte— could create a vaccine in a ntntte. tt— could create a vaccine in a ntntte. tt te— could create a vaccine in a minute. it to create a pathogen tnet— minute. it to create a pathogen tnet eettt— minute. it to create a pathogen that could wipe— minute. it to create a pathogen that could wipe out a huge, huge ntnnett— that could wipe out a huge, huge ntnnett et— that could wipe out a huge, huge number of people— that could wipe out a huge, huge number of people .— that could wipe out a huge, huge number of people . so real number of people. so real opportunities— number of people. so real opportunities is in terms of ntgnee— opportunities is in terms of ntegteee. ttt— opportunities is in terms of progress, but also real risks. tnt— progress, but also real risks. tnt ttet-e— progress, but also real risks. and that's what— progress, but also real risks. and that's what the prime tttntetet— and that's what the prime minister will— and that's what the prime minister will be focusing on tomorrow. okay— minister will be focusing on tomorrow. okay fascinating. tom:— tomorrow. okay fascinating. tent. ttent— tomorrow. okay fascinating. tom, thank you— tomorrow. okay fascinating. tom, thank you very- tomorrow. okay fascinating. tom, thank you very much indeed. the now quarter past eight. the time now quarter past eight. let's bring you up to date with the rest of the news. the prime minister says the destruction of the dam in ukraine would mark a new low in the conflict if russia is found to be responsible . will, he said the responsible. will, he said the immediate priority is the humanitarian response . thousands humanitarian response. thousands of people have been evacuated since the dam in russian held ukraine collapsed . the prime ukraine collapsed. the prime minister's described a new weight loss drug scheme as a game changer. the £40 million ntet.— game changer. the £40 million ntet. wnten— game changer. the £40 million pilot, which can— game changer. the £40 million pilot, which can help— g ig the £40 million pilot, which can help patients teee— pilot, which can help patients teee tn— pilot, which can help patients teee tn te— pilot, which can help patients teee tn te tte— pilot, which can help patients lose up to 15% of— pilot, which can help patients lose up to 15% of their body wetgnt— lose up to 15% of their body wetgnt .— lose up to 15% of their body wetgnt . te— lose up to 15% of their body weight, is intended to tackle eteettw— weight, is intended to tackle eteettw ent— weight, is intended to tackle obesity and cut— weight, is intended to tackle obesity and cut nhs waiting list tnee.— obesity and cut nhs waiting list tnee. neettn— obesity and cut nhs waiting list times. health secretary steve tetetew— times. health secretary steve tetetew-te— times. health secretary steve barclay us morning it barclay told us this morning it wtt— barclay told us this morning it will-available— barclay told us this morning it will-available to- barclay told us this morning it will available to patients will be available to patients as soon-possible.— will be available to patients as soon-possible. it's- will be available to patients as soon possible. it's a very soon as possible. it's a very eetttng— soon as possible. it's a very exciting development, but it's

one alongside— exciting development, but it's one alongside a— exciting development, but it's one alongside a range of other measures that— one alongside a range of other measures that were taken . ' i measures that were taken. and teettng— measures that were taken. and we're looking at,— measures that were taken. and we're looking at, for— measures that were taken. and we're looking at, for example, the pilot in wolverhampton. we've brought in other measures in terms of calorie disclosure to better inform patients on menus . so to better inform patients on menus. so there's a range of things we're doing, but this is a really exciting new technology, new drugs that are available and we want to make sure they're available to people within the nhs at the earliest opportunity . motty clay there opportunity. motty clay there and teach us shout out. we're talking about nearly- and teach us shout out. we're talking about nearly a- i i ..5 we're talking about nearly a third of ntnew— talking about nearly a third of primary schools— talking about nearly a third of primary schools in england don't newe— primary schools in england don't newe e— primary schools in england don't newe e nete— primary schools in england don't have a male teacher. that is a new record . lord— have a male teacher. that is a new record . lord low a study new record. lord low a study ten— new record. lord low a study from warwick— new record. lord low a study from warwick business school, eett— from warwick business school, eett tewe— from warwick business school, said boys from _ from warwick business school, said boys from poorer backgrounds would benefit from tewtng— backgrounds would benefit from newng e— backgrounds would benefit from newng e nete— backgrounds would benefit from having a male teacher , but they having a male teacher, but they are having a male teacher, but they teee— having a male teacher, but they are less likely— having a male teacher, but they are less likely to— having a male teacher, but they are less likely to actually have . ene — are less likely to actually have . ene t— are less likely to actually have . one r think— are less likely to actually have . one i think everyone- are less likely to actually have . one i think everyone loves their teachers , so that's what their teachers, so that's what we've established. well, the

teachers have made an impression. yeah, they're john eewe— impression. yeah, they're john eewe snett— impression. yeah, they're john says shout out— impression. yeah, they're john says shout out for— impression. yeah, they're john says shout out for mr- ti“ yeah, they're john says shout out for mr kinder or wne— says shout out for mr kinder or wne eettt— says shout out for mr kinder or wne eettt tt— says shout out for mr kinder or who could it be?— says shout out for mr kinder or who could it be? mr kinder? but enwwew— who could it be? mr kinder? but anyway ne— who could it be? mr kinder? but enwwew. ne wee— who could it be? mr kinder? but enwwew. ne e— who could it be? mr kinder? but anyway, he was a teacher from enetnet— anyway, he was a teacher from another school— anyway, he was a teacher from another school ,_ anyway, he was a teacher from another school , but he another school, but he encouraged _ another school, but he encouraged and supported me. enen— encouraged and supported me. snett te— encouraged and supported me. snett te wee— encouraged and supported me. snett te e— encouraged and supported me. sport he was a massive influence on me . from spain,— sport he was a massive influence on me . from spain, we say hello on me. from spain, we say hello to on me. from spain, we say hello te tet.— on me. from spain, we say hello te tet. tet— on me. from spain, we say hello to bob. bob says,— on me. from spain, we say hello to bob. bob says, i'm 74. i teeet— to bob. bob says, i'm 74. i teeett tne— to bob. bob says, i'm 74. i recall the first— to bob. bob says, i'm 74. i recall the first teacher who ttnttw— recall the first teacher who kindly allowed - recall the first teacher who kindly allowed me to take a book nene— kindly allowed me to take a book nene te— kindly allowed me to take a book nene te teet— kindly allowed me to take a book home to read when— kindly allowed me to take a book home to read when i was nine weete— home to read when i was nine weete et— home to read when i was nine weete et ege— home to read when i was nine weete et ege .— home to read when i was nine years of age . percy pig zahawi years of age. percy pig zahawi tne— years of age. percy pig zahawi was the book,— years of age. percy pig zahawi was the book, and— years of age. percy pig zahawi was the book, and mr treadwell , was the book, and mr treadwell, the was the book, and mr treadwell, tne teeeten— was the book, and mr treadwell, the teacher barton— was the book, and mr treadwell, the teacher barton junior school in the teacher barton junior school tn tttntew. — the teacher barton junior school in burnley. yeah.— the teacher barton junior school in burnley. t/tint“ ' “ti the teacher barton junior school in burnley. / “ti i?“ in burnley. yeah. and can i just say pages and pages of these will just rattle through a few of them. liz in cornwall. mr gregson, our history and politics teacher at colton grammar . he an grammar school. he was an absolute me growing up absolute hero for me growing up when was teaching us about when he was teaching us about world came dressed as world war i, he came dressed as a british soldier and brought our life. he was our lessons to life. he was eenewnet—.- our lessons to life. he was somewhat-, but. our lessons to life. he was. somewhat-, but very somewhat eccentric, but very geet. — somewhat eccentric, but very geet. _tne — somewhat eccentric, but very good. the message somewhat eccentric, but very- good.-the message home, good. he gets the message home, tettn— good. he gets the message home, teen-ttt— good. he gets the message home, robin-mr himars- robin says. mr himars tettnttetw. — robin says. mr himars definitely. me robin says. mr himars. definitely.-me his robin says. mr himars- definitely. _me his this definitely. he gave me his this tngtten— definitely. he gave me his this tngtten ne— definitely. he gave me his this english name. robin has and i newe— english name. robin has and i newe teen— english name. robin has and i have been using— english name. robin has and i have been using it for 17 years.

he eneetteget— have been using it for 17 years. he encouraged me— have been using it for 17 years. he encouraged me to get into the wettt— he encouraged me to get into the wet et— he encouraged me to get into the world of language— he encouraged me to get into the world of language learning, wnten— world of language learning, wnten teettw— world of language learning, which really opened a whole new wettt— which really opened a whole new wettt tet— which really opened a whole new wettt tet ne— which really opened a whole new world for me, francesca says. ntene— world for me, francesca says. diana wallsgrove_ world for me, francesca says. diana wallsgrove for- world for me, francesca says. diana wallsgrove for me,- world for me, francesca says. diana wallsgrove for me, i still love english to this day because of her fabulous teacher who got the class enjoying the the whole class enjoying the subject loving her lessons , subject and loving her lessons, sheila says, i remember miss french from lee girls french from lee street girls school hyde in cheshire. school in hyde in cheshire. diane says mrs. walsh from moorfoot primary school in gourock in scotland , go and do a gourock in scotland, go and do a few more. so they go on. mrs. leask taught history- few more. so they go on. mrs. leask taught history at- few more. so they go on. mrs. leask taught history at a- leask taught history at a eenwent— leask taught history at a envent tn— leask taught history at a convent in bath in the 60s, says tennw— convent in bath in the 60s, says tennw. sne— convent in bath in the 60s, says tennw. sne wee— convent in bath in the 60s, says tennw. sne nw— convent in bath in the 60s, says jenny. she was my very favourite teeeten— jenny. she was my very favourite teeenet .— jenny. she was my very favourite teeenet . t— jenny. she was my very favourite teacher. i still— jenny. she was my very favourite teacher . i still love— jenny. she was my very favourite teacher . i still love the teacher. i still love the etnw-eet.— teacher. i still love the subject. she - teacher. i still love the subject. she marked very low in eeeewe— subject. she marked very low in eeeewe .— subject. she marked very low in eeeewe . ttt— subject. she marked very low in essays , but always— subject. she marked very low in essays , but always took the time essays, but always took the time to essays, but always took the time te wnte. — essays, but always took the time to write, construct— essays, but always took the time to write, construct ,_ essays, but always took the time to write, construct , give advice to write, construct, give advice at to write, construct, give advice et tne— to write, construct, give advice at the bottom _ to write, construct, give advice at the bottom in— to write, construct, give advice at the bottom in red as to how to at the bottom in red as to how te tnnteve— at the bottom in red as to how te tnnteve .— at the bottom in red as to how to improve , not— at the bottom in red as to how to improve , not to— at the bottom in red as to how to improve , not to read anymore to improve, not to read anymore . teeeten— to improve, not to read anymore . teachers can't— to improve, not to read anymore . teachers can't use- to improve, not to read anymore . teachers can't use red- to improve, not to read anymore . teachers can't use red because it's aggressive , tim says mr it's aggressive, tim says mr john hennigan. for me, my former engush john hennigan. for me, my former english teacher, what do they write in green ? green. okay, write in green? green. okay, teen. — write in green? green. okay, yeah. black . mrjohn hennigan yeah. black. mrjohn hennigan for me, my former english teacher at saint lawrence

sheriff school rugby. i was keen on writing short stories and he would review them for me. he left for a new job and sadly passed away later. isn't that sad? i'll never know that. you sent in a tribute this morning, david from france, watching us this good have our this morning. good to have our international viewers. phil murphy tennyson murphy from archbishop tennyson school kennington. was my school in kennington. he was my french well, he french teacher. gosh. well, he obviously a love obviously ignited a love of france you're living france then, if you're living there me one day there now, he told me one day i would teach french and persuaded me to on to study a degree in me to go on to study a degree in bilingual business studies. 40 years career in raaf years later, my career in raaf and wow has taken and united nations wow has taken me the world almost me all over the world almost exclusively in french speaking countries. you see that it can change people's lives. yeah having that ability . yeah. good, having that ability. yeah. good, good, good . having that ability. yeah. good, geet. geet . ttee.— having that ability. yeah. good, good, good . nice, nice- “g . cg yeah. good, good, good . nice, nice stories. good, good. nice, nice stories. i good, good. nice, nice stories. t ent-ewet— good, good. nice, nice stories. t entewet tneee— good, good. nice, nice stories. i enjoyed those positive- good, good. nice, nice stories. i enjoyed those positive spin on on the teacher story we were talking about this morning. so sport, coming up next, west so sport, coming up next, west ham on sport, coming up next, west ham en tnet— sport, coming up next, west ham on their travels.— sport, coming up next, west ham on their travels. they're in ttegte— on their travels. they're in ttegte. cen— on their travels. they're in prague. can they capture ttteneen— prague. can they capture european glory? tonight, more on the european glory? tonight, more on tne tttene— european glory? tonight, more on the europa conference league tnet— the europa conference league ttnet. tett— the europa conference league final. paul coyte_ the europa conference league final. paul coyte previewing

tnet— final. paul coyte previewing tnet en— final. paul coyte previewing tnet en tne— final. paul coyte previewing that on the hammers.

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is well, we're going to be is it well, we're going to be meeting a couple are meeting a couple who are crackers about that cheese. yeah, right up my street . mark yeah, right up my street. mark king from kent. he eats at least wait it. two blocks of wait for it. two blocks of cheddar a day. apparently one block just two pieces of block just between two pieces of bread. just a normal bread. that's just a normal sandwich him. but it's true. sandwich for him. but it's true. he sandwich for him. but it's true. te-netntng— sandwich for him. but it's true. he-nothing else. - sandwich for him. but it's true. he-nothing else. it's- sandwich for him. but it's true. he-nothing else. it's not. he eats nothing else. it's not tnet— he eats nothing else. it's not ttet—eteete- he eats nothing else. it's not that—blocks of. he eats nothing else. it's not. that—blocks of this, that he eats two blocks of this, ttt— that he eats two blocks of this, ttt ne— that he eats two blocks of this, ttt ne eete— that he eats two blocks of this, but he eats nothing else. i neen-ttet— but he eats nothing else. i mean,-just they- but he eats nothing else. i mean,-just they are. but he eats nothing else. ii mean,-just they are the mean, he's just they are the cheesiest couple ever known. and he is a real life. wallace i can't wait for interview. can't wait for this interview. would not give you, like, would that not give you, like, eenettnetten— constipation or something? eeet— constipation or something? teen-neve- constipation or something? gosh,-have to- constipation or something? gosh, _have to go . constipation or something? - gosh,-have to go there. gosh, we don't have to go there. we just delicious has to come we do just delicious has to come out, apparently, he's in cracking shape and has a six pack. so go figure. life's not fair. 9:10. the latest on the prime minister in washington , prime minister in washington, and he's discussing all the big events. hei and he's discussing all the big events. he i said cyber security ent— events. he i said cyber security ent wnet-e— events. he i said cyber security ent wnet-e getng— events. he i said cyber security and what's going on— he i said cyber security and what's going on in ukraine at and what's going on in ukraine et tne— and what's going on in ukraine at the moment— and what's going on in ukraine at the moment there with the nteettent— at the moment there with the nteettent ent— at the moment there with the president and lots more emails to president and lots more emails te teet— president and lots more emails te neet ett— president and lots more emails te neet ett ee— president and lots more emails to read out as well. [15 . cit to read out as well. gb views gb news .com . it's sports-

to read out as well. [15 . cit \ ti.it“ it's sports time to read out as well. [15 . [15 \ ti.tit“ it's sports time back news .com. it's sports time back pages— news .com. it's sports time back negee teet— news .com. it's sports time back negee teet tte— news .com. it's sports time back pages look like this— news .com. it's sports time back pages look like this on- \ ti.tit“ it's sports time back pages look like this on this wetneetew— pages look like this on this wednesday morning. guardian the pga wednesday morning. guardian the tet tett— wednesday morning. guardian the tet tett ent— wednesday morning. guardian the pga tour and the— wednesday morning. guardian the pga tour and the dp world tour ent— pga tour and the dp world tour ent ttv— pga tour and the dp world tour ent ttv eett— pga tour and the dp world tour and liv golf of— pga tour and the dp world tour and liv golf of all- pga tour and the dp world tour and liv golf of all teamed up to tnew— and liv golf of all teamed up to announce they are— and liv golf of all teamed up to announce they are merging . who announce they are merging. who wettt— announce they are merging. who wettt neve— announce they are merging. who would have thought they're tetntng— would have thought they're tetntng tt— would have thought they're tetntng t e— would have thought they're terming it a new collectively ewnet— terming it a new collectively owned entity?— terming it a new collectively owned entity? if— terming it a new collectively owned entity? if anybody can tett— owned entity? if anybody can tett ne— owned entity? if anybody can tell me what— owned entity? if anybody can tell me what that means for ball gttte— tell me what that means for ball gttte wett— tell me what that means for ball gttte wett vetw— tell me what that means for ball quite well very shortly , mail quite well very shortly, mail tenettet— quite well very shortly, mail tenentet en— quite well very shortly, mail reported on the— quite well very shortly, mail reported on the news that the settte— reported on the news that the settte neve— reported on the news that the saudis have invested 1 billion to saudis have invested 1 billion te netn— saudis have invested 1 billion te netn tne— saudis have invested 1 billion to help the new— saudis have invested 1 billion to help the new golfing collaboration- to help the new golfing collaboration . this was the in collaboration. this was the in tne— collaboration. this was the in tne ttet— collaboration. this was the in the first place. _ collaboration. this was the in the first place. but there's teeten— the first place. but there's declan rice,— the first place. but there's declan rice, the west ham player for declan rice, the west ham player tet tentgtt— declan rice, the west ham player for tonight. west— declan rice, the west ham player for tonight. west ham, fiorentina_ for tonight. west ham, fiorentina in- for tonight. west ham, fiorentina in the europa conference— fiorentina in the europa conference league final. and tnet— conference league final. and we te— conference league final. and that is likely- conference league final. and that is likely to— conference league final. and that is likely to be declan ttee-e— that is likely to be declan ttee-e teet— that is likely to be declan rice's last match for west ham. weet— rice's last match for west ham. weet ten — rice's last match for west ham. west ham will— rice's last match for west ham. west ham will be— rice's last match for west ham. west ham will be considering etene— west ham will be considering ettete tet— west ham will be considering offers for him _ west ham will be considering offers for him over the summer.

so offers for him over the summer. se tett— offers for him over the summer. se tett cewte— offers for him over the summer. se tett cewte .— offers for him over the summer. so paul coyte , the— offers for him over the summer. so paul coyte , the pga tour , liv so paul coyte, the pga tour, liv eett— so paul coyte, the pga tour, liv eett ent— so paul coyte, the pga tour, liv eett ent tt— so paul coyte, the pga tour, liv golf and dp world— so paul coyte, the pga tour, liv golf and dp world tour. oh, ntgnt. — golf and dp world tour. oh, ntgnt. ttete— golf and dp world tour. oh, right. there was— golf and dp world tour. oh, right. there was so much never the right. there was so much never tne t— right. there was so much never tne t tnetgnt— right. there was so much never the i thought it— right. there was so much never the i thought it was the two you eettt— the i thought it was the two you eettt neet— the i thought it was the two you could meet the— the i thought it was the two you could meet the pga and liv. but tnen— could meet the pga and liv. but tnen tneee-e— could meet the pga and liv. but then there's this— could meet the pga and liv. but then there's this dp world tour, then there's this dp world tour, tne ttteneen— then there's this dp world tour, the european tour. g the european tour. it's just enettet— the european tour. it's just another name for the european touris another name for the european tour is the dp. okay. so they're all tour is the dp. okay. so they're ett tnew-ve— tour is the dp. okay. so they're ett tnew-ve ett— tour is the dp. okay. so they're all they've all kissed- j 37' so they're all they've all kissed and made up- — all they've all kissed and made tn. t— all they've all kissed and made tn. t neen— all they've all kissed and made up. i mean, this— all they've all kissed and made up. i mean, this is— all they've all kissed and made up. “ up. i mean, this is comes completely out of the blue. nobody saw this coming. no players, no golf. journalists saw this coming . i mean, a saw this coming. i mean, a little background as you know, a couple of years ago , it was couple of years ago, it was started up then the liv golf saudi backed rebel tour almost started signing up players and started signing up players and start offering them huge amounts of money. you've got phil mickelson was given to $100 million. $150 million to bryson dechambeau. so all the money's been thrown around. it's a it's a different it's the main concern with this is that this was called sportswashing , wasn't was called sportswashing, wasn't it? of course. of course. because of saudi arabia, the

settte— because of saudi arabia, the settte teet— because of saudi arabia, the saudis look like- because of saudi arabia, the saudis look like quite good in tetetten— saudis look like quite good in tetetten te— saudis look like quite good in relation to their— saudis look like quite good in relation to their human rights neet — relation to their human rights record. well,— relation to their human rights record. well, that's- relation to their human rights record. �*vat'ticc g �*vat'ti ”ti record. well, that's it. we're seeing we've seen a lot of it. i mean, we've seen it with boxing. but the thing that is disturbing to a lot of people is that it's very quickly forgotten. so, for example, families of 911 are up in arms about this deal now with the tour. pga and the the pga tour. so the pga and the dp tour , they were very dp world tour, they were very unhappy because they were losing all these players to go to liv and there were lawsuits that were going backwards and forwards players that forwards and with players that weren't play, there weren't going to play, there must broker involved must have been a broker involved in of this. it will emerge, in all of this. it will emerge, you— in all of this. it will emerge, wet tnew— in all of this. it will emerge, wet tnew wne— in all of this. it will emerge, you know who could- “ it will emerge, you know who could have pulled tnen— you know who could have pulled tnen itegetnet— you know who could have pulled them together some fear them all together or some fear nee— them all together or some fear nee ntttet— them all together or some fear has pulled-all- them all together or some fear has pulled all together, has pulled them all together, newne— has pulled them all together, maybe litigation— has pulled them all together, maybe litigation , then who maybe litigation, then who nnewet— maybe litigation, then who knows?-this - maybe litigation, then who knows?-this is- maybe litigation, then who knows? this is a heck of knows? but this is a heck of achievement. _ knows? but this is a heck of achievement. yeah, but you see, ttet— achievement. yeah, but you see, ttet nte— achievement. yeah, but you see, just wonder, paul,— achievement. yeah, but you see, just wonder, paul, what does tnte— just wonder, paul, what does tne—teee- just wonder, paul, what does- this—does-mean this mean then? does this mean ttet.— this mean then? does this mean ttet-wetttew- this mean then? does this mean ttet-wetttew .- this mean then? does this mean that,-mcllroy , for- that, say, rory mcilroy, for tnetene— that, say, rory mcilroy, for instance, who's— that, say, rory mcilroy, for instance, who's very much egetnet— instance, who's very much egetnet tne— instance, who's very much against the live - instance, who's very much against the live tour and would he against the live tour and would ne te— against the live tour and would ne te ette— against the live tour and would ne te ette te— against the live tour and would he be able to play— against the live tour and would he be able to play in all the tournaments— he be able to play in all the tournaments then, or would they tnen— tournaments then, or would they tnen tnte— tournaments then, or would they then this leaves— tournaments then, or would they then this leaves players available— then this leaves players available for— then this leaves players available for ryder cup selection.— available for ryder cup selection. _ available for ryder cup selection. �*vat'ti ”ti c.

available for ryder cup- selection. we're still waiting to out exactly how to find out exactly how everything lands. but what we do know is a player like rory could have accepted $500 million to play and now would be allowed to play and now would be allowed to play in pga tour events. majors have always been separate, so that's not run by the pga. but as far as this is concerned , it as far as this is concerned, it is incredible that they have joined together and now we're going to start seeing the fallout and players are up in arms it. well, all i can arms about it. well, all i can say is for exactly. i think it's exactly right. do you play golf? i play golf very badly , i do play golf very badly, though. yeah, well, i very tetw— though. yeah, well, i very tett-et- though. yeah, well, i very badly.-of fact,- though. yeah, well, i very badly.-of fact, i- though. yeah, well, i very. badly.-of fact, i can't badly. matter of fact, i can't play— badly. matter of fact, i can't play-alb— badly. matter of fact, i can't ntewlett. we.— badly. matter of fact, i can't play-all. no, but- badly. matter of fact, i can't play all. no, but i mean, it play at all. no, but i mean, it is play at all. no, but i mean, it te—te— play at all. no, but i mean, it te—te get- play at all. no, but i mean, it is_to get back. play at all. no, but i mean, it. is_to get back and is my ambition to get back and play— is my ambition to get back and ntew ete— is my ambition to get back and ntew etv netee. — is my ambition to get back and play six holes. nine holes. we wtt— play six holes. nine holes. we wtttltnet. — play six holes. nine holes. we will.that. we- play six holes. nine holes. we will.that. we will- play six holes. nine holes. we will that. we will we will do that. we will do. we wtt— will do that. we will do. we wttt te— will do that. we will do. we will do absolutely will do that. absolutely tteetttetw. — will do that. absolutely absolutely. - play i will do that. absolutely - absolutely. _play worse absolutely. i still play worse than i did when i was 17. it's just it just never improved. yeah, never improved. so liv golf not interested. not for golf and not interested. not for us. the slightest. no us. not in the slightest. no okay. fiorentina prague tonight weet— okay. fiorentina prague tonight weet ten.— okay. fiorentina prague tonight west ham, europa league final . west ham, europa league final. ttet— west ham, europa league final. ttet ttne— west ham, europa league final. first time that—

west ham, europa league final. first time that west— west ham, europa league final. first time that west ham - west ham, europa league final. first time that west ham could will they last won a cup in 1980 fa cup final against arsenal. yeah so that was the last cup they won. 1965. last european trophy was the cup winners cup with bobby moore. so a lot of the papers are likening declan rice to bobby moore now. and this could be the first european trophy for them in that amount of it's being held in of time. so it's being held in prague. it's the conference final. they're playing fiorentina very even. it could go either but about 30,000 go either way, but about 30,000 west ham fans are over in prague at the moment. west ham fans are over in prague at the moment . the west ham fans are over in prague at the moment. the stadium only holds 20,000. the fortuna arena, 19,000in fact, and which is bizarre because they could have sold out anywhere. every body wants to go and see this final and also, i think what's also really important other clubs that are saying, oh, this mickey mouse cup, nobody cares about it. it's a european trophy. we remember the cup winners cup and the uefa cup and the european cup, which is now the champions league. there was always three. and i think it's really important. i think it's brilliant west ham. and brilliant for west ham. and i think great football.

think it's great for football. so are so behind it, so west ham are so behind it, very excited about it and we wish well. so that's that's wish them well. so that's that's tonight ham made a tonight paul has west ham made a decision on david moyes not decision on david moyes or not so they haven't so moyes could win trophy for them. yeah and win a trophy for them. yeah and still not have— win a trophy for them. yeah and still not have the— “ yeah and still not have the manager's job at still not have the manager's job et tne— still not have the manager's job et tne etent— still not have the manager's job et tne etett et— still not have the manager's job at the start of next— still not have the manager's job at the start of next season. ttt— at the start of next season. ttt te— at the start of next season. ttt te etttw— at the start of next season. i'd be really surprised- at the start of next season. i'd be really surprised if they win the trophy, which would be huge for the club. yeah. i don't think they're going to show david moyes the door. yeah i think this is all up in the air and i don't i'd be really surprised if the whole thing hinges on whether they win or lose because let's face it, they haven't a great season in haven't had a great season in the premier league, but in europe it's been very successful. well, they survived to successful. well, they survived te—tew— successful. well, they survived te—tewltne- to fight another day in the ttentet— to fight another day in the premier league, to fight another day in the- premier league,-another premier league, another another season-course. and. season. yeah, of course. and tnew—e- season. yeah, of course. and tnew—e ttennw. i season. yeah, of course. and. they—a trophy. quite they could have a trophy. quite a they could have a trophy. quite e nteettgtete— a prestigious trophy. absolutely. - a prestigious trophy. absolutely. result. absolutely. as a result. absolutely. _ absolutely. as a result.. absolutely. _the absolutely. as a result.- absolutely.-the space absolutely. so what's the space t— absolutely. so what's the space now ? snooker.— absolutely. so what's the space now ? snooker. right. oh, trouble now? snooker. right. oh, trouble . we.— now? snooker. right. oh, trouble . we. ttt— now? snooker. right. oh, trouble . we. t-tt tett— now? snooker. right. oh, trouble . no, i'll tell you— now? snooker. right. oh, trouble . no, i'll tell you what. i teettw— . no, i'll tell you what. i really don't— . no, i'll tell you what. i really don't like this. i really ten-t— really don't like this. i really ten-t tte— really don't like this. i really don't like this. - really don't like this. i really don't like this. so basically, we get— don't like this. so basically, we we've got match fixing eeentete— we we've got match fixing scandals going— we we've got match fixing scandals going on. and this te— scandals going on. and this te te— scandals going on. and this seems to be a— scandals going on. and this seems to be a ring chinese

seems to be a ring of chinese ntewete— seems to be a ring of chinese players involved— seems to be a ring of chinese players involved in all of this. wnet-e— players involved in all of this. we tne— players involved in all of this. what's the latest— players involved in all of this. what's the latest on this? ttgnt. — what's the latest on this? tttgnt. se— what's the latest on this? right. so we've- what's the latest on this? right. 3tit i?t“g what's the latest on this?- right. so we've got liang wenbo and li hang both of these players have been banned from for life now as the prsa. there's eight others also they've also had various bans going from five years to 20 months. i mean, if i can just read you the charges. liang wenbo there was a uk finalist in 2015, so he's charged with and this is what he's been found guilty of fixing five matches. so i mean any sport with any fixing involved, you would think it's got to be a lifetime ban. but then trying to get other players to fix nine matches, betting on games as well, threatening another player by saying, look, you've got to be involved in this or else deleting messages , failing to deleting messages, failing to cooperate. you know , and it just cooperate. you know, and it just can't go on in sport. any sign of it. so his penalty he was five— of it. so his penalty he was ttve weete — of it. so his penalty he was five years. no,— of it. so his penalty he was five years. no, he's- g so his penalty he was five years. \tit i five years. no, he's banned for life. he's been banned for life sum of five years to 20 months. but him and li hang have but both him and li hang have been banned for life. so cricket

needs to throw— been banned for life. so cricket needs to throw at— been banned for life. so cricket needs to throw at you. - “ “i . ”ti so cricket needs to throw at you. i've just tt— needs to throw at you. i've just tt ee— needs to throw at you. i've just tt ee e— needs to throw at you. i've just seen it as a flash— needs to throw at you. i've just seen it as a flash on wires. sntnnet— seen it as a flash on wires. spinner marine— seen it as a flash on wires. spinner marine ali's come out of tetttenent. — spinner marine ali's come out of retirement. oh,— spinner marine ali's come out of retirement. oh, that's- spinner marine ali's come out of retirement. “j; retirement. oh, that's amazing. test retirement. oh, that's amazing. teet enetet. — retirement. oh, that's amazing. test cricket. and— retirement. oh, that's amazing. test cricket. and he's— retirement. “j; test cricket. and he's been ettet— test cricket. and he's been added england's ashes squad. added to england's ashes squad. the added to england's ashes squad. tne—wetee- added to england's ashes squad. the _wales cricket. the england and wales cricket teeet— the england and wales cricket tett-ttet— the england and wales cricket board just announced. well board has just announced. well the board has just announced. well tne etew— board has just announced. well tne etew te— board has just announced. well tne etetw te teet— board has just announced. well the story is jack leach, who is our main spinner,— the story is jack leach, who is our main spinner, nana knee tnt-tntee— our main spinner, nana knee tnttnee ett— our main spinner, nana knee injuries out for— our main spinner, nana knee injuries out for the entire eeeen — injuries out for the entire eeeen se. — injuries out for the entire ashes. so. so- injuries out for the entire ashes. 3tit injuries out for the entire- ashes. so. so we've got moeen ali had retired from test cricket, still playing one day and t20s . so what's going to and t20s. so what's going to happen? would actually decide happen? would he actually decide to because they asked to come back? because they asked him last year and he said no. but if ever are you going to come back? the ashes against australia this country? australia in this country? i mean, be to turn down. mean, it'd be hard to turn down. so great that he's so it's great news that he's decided play. got my ticket. decided to play. got my ticket. oh, have yeah which for oh, have you? yeah which one for the ashes. which game? five of ten. — the ashes. which game? five of ten. tte— the ashes. which game? five of ten. tt-e tet— the ashes. which game? five of them. it's for 33— the ashes. which game? five of them. it's for 33 to— which game? five of them. it's for 33 to sunday. is it. them. it's for 33 to sunday. is t. tt— them. it's for 33 to sunday. is tt. en — them. it's for 33 to sunday. is it. or so. yeah.— them. it's for 33 to sunday. is it. or so. yeah. well- them. it's for 33 to sunday. is it. or so. t/tint“ �*vat'ticc it. or so. yeah. well this is the one coming up. so the first one. yeah. so the first one starts a week on friday. okay and then we've got 5—5 tests ahead.so and then we've got 5—5 tests ahead. so we've never have a better chance. i'm touching wood and isabelle's to and isabelle's going to wimbledon. i'm already for

wtntteten.— wimbledon. i'm already for wimbledon. got— �*vat' i“ i'm already for wimbledon. got dress. never wimbledon. got my dress. never ntnt— wimbledon. got my dress. never ntnt-tetet— wimbledon. got my dress. never ntnt-tetet. — wimbledon. got my dress. never mind ticket . jkijfjiicccl" mind my ticket. excellent. excellent. a honestly excellent. it's a honestly should be. i love the summer. it gete— should be. i love the summer. it gete vetw— should be. i love the summer. it gete vetw evetttng— i i love the summer. it gets very exciting when you've got gets very exciting when you'vei get—wnet gets very exciting when you've - get—wnet we got wimbledon. you know what we enettt— got wimbledon. you know what we enettt-tne— got wimbledon. you know what we should _the three— got wimbledon. you know what we should _the three-us- should do? the three of us should do? the three of us should do. know nothing about should do. we know nothing about rowing or anything henley to rowing or anything but henley to henley. we were talking about the henley. we were talking about tne-teen— henley. we were talking about the-loop-morning.l the henley loop this morning. tnete— the henley loop this morning. that's another— the henley loop this morning. that's another matter. the loop of that's another matter. the loop et-tnt— that's another matter. the loop et-ant we— that's another matter. the loop of-and we could- that's another matter. the loop of-and we could just.| of henley. and we could just. you indulge in your you could just indulge in your favourite i remember favourite pastime. i remember being once, working as being at henley once, working as a it was so hot. a reporter, but it was so hot. it was like it was blistering. yeah. five years ago or so it was like it was blistering. yabsolutely five years ago or so it was like it was blistering. yabsolutely blistering. ago or so it was like it was blistering. yabsolutely blistering. well,’ so . absolutely blistering. well, your son's school. school i went to your son's school. school i went telteettw— your son's school. school i went telteettw geet— your son's school. school i went tolreally good-rowing- your son's school. school i went tolreally good-rowing a- to is really good at rowing a tet.— to is really good at rowing a lot. produced— to is really good at rowing a lot. produced-of- to is really good at rowing a lot. produced of rowers at lot. produced lots of rowers at tentew. — lot. produced lots of rowers at tentew. _te— lot. produced lots of rowers at tentew-te ge- lot. produced lots of rowers at tentew-te ge te- lot. produced lots of rowers at. henley. _to go to watch henley. so i used to go to watch tnen. — henley. so i used to go to watch tnen. we— henley. so i used to go to watch them. we never— henley. so i used to go to watch them. we never did— henley. so i used to go to watch them. “td henley. so i used to go to watch them. “t: them. we never did rowing at my school. mean, we didn't even school. i mean, we didn't even play rugby because it was too posh play rugby. yeah > so posh to play rugby. yeah > so i don't rowing would posh to play rugby. yeah > so i don't-rowing would be- don't think rowing would be ntgnt— don't think rowing would be right_thames.i don't think rowing would be- right_thames. okay, right on the river thames. okay, so right on the river thames. okay, ee tt— right on the river thames. okay, ee tt wee— right on the river thames. okay, ee tt ntgnt— right on the river thames. okay, so it was right there, right? otew. — so it was right there, right? otew. _ten-t— so it was right there, right? okay. _don't know. - so it was right there, right? okay. _don't know. i'd. so it was right there, right? i okay.-don't know. i'd love okay. but i don't know. i'd love to it, but i don't know to do it, but i don't know whether i would fit in perfectly. oh, fit right. perfectly. oh, you fit right. do think i'd be able to perfectly. oh, you fit right. - do-think i'd be able to pull do you think i'd be able to pull it do you think i'd be able to pull tt—get— do you think i'd be able to pull tt—get e— do you think i'd be able to pull tt—get e neetet- it off? you've got a pocket tentt— it off? you've got a pocket nenw-wet- it off? you've got a pocket hanky.-you think- it off? you've got a pocket hanky. “< 7 hanky. do you think so? something a little more stripy,

like is a hat. and you'll be like amy is a hat. and you'll be tnete— like amy is a hat. and you'll be tnete. — like amy is a hat. and you'll be tnete. t— like amy is a hat. and you'll be there. a jaunty hat, panama angle, a little panama. okay. that for and that that worked for me. and that could out. i think i've could be a day out. i think i've only is a beautiful place. yeah, it's really, really nice. ttnn— yeah, it's really, really nice. ttnt ettntteet— yeah, it's really, really nice. i'm surprised you— yeah, it's really, really nice. i'm surprised you don't- yeah, it's really, really nice. i'm surprised you don't row. you bnng i'm surprised you don't row. you bring sandwiches. okay. okay bring the sandwiches. okay. okay i'll bring the bubbles. lovely thanks, friend. you thanks, my friend. thank you vetw— thanks, my friend. thank you ven—te- thanks, my friend. thank you vetw—te eee- thanks, my friend. thank you vetw—te wet| very much. good to see you tetene.— very much. good to see you tetene-wet— very much. good to see you before.-you at- very much. good to see you before. you at the ashes. before. see you at the ashes. teet— before. see you at the ashes. look forward _ before. see you at the ashes. look forward to— before. see you at the ashes. look forward to it. or if you went—tnl look forward to it. or if you. went—tn. t-tt work out when you go in, i'll okay— work out when you go in, i'll see. okay, man.— work out when you go in, i'll see. i“t?t“ we're work out when you go in, i'll see. we're going work out when you go in, i'll see. jcij

next your front pages of your newspapers stack up like . next your front pages of your newspapers stack up like this- newspapers stack up like this tnte— newspapers stack up like this this morning. _ newspapers stack up like this this morning. i “g newspapers stack up like this this morning. i “j; this morning. times leading with prince harry's political attack on the government as he gives evidence against mirror newspaper group at the high court . and the photograph of court. and the photograph of that which has been breached in ukraine. yeah, and that's the teet— ukraine. yeah, and that's the teet etew— ukraine. yeah, and that's the teet etew tet— ukraine. yeah, and that's the lead story for the _ yeah, and that's the lead story for the telegraph. ttetentng— lead story for the telegraph. teeetttng te— lead story for the telegraph. according to rishi sunak , according to rishi sunak, tnew-te— according to rishi sunak, tnew-te eewtng— according to rishi sunak, they're saying this will be a tew— they're saying this will be a tew tt— they're saying this will be a new low if russia is found to neve— new low if russia is found to neve teen— new low if russia is found to have been responsible for that. okay— have been responsible for that. otew. tetet— have been responsible for that. okay, here's the— have been responsible for that. okay, here's the express- okay, here's the express focusing on the game changing you weight loss drug aimed at slimming down the country . and slimming down the country. and the star says police are failing to solve a single burglary in almost half of neighbourhoods in

england and wales. i'm glad i keep david mellor giggling . do keep david mellor giggling. do you know what it makes me jnt ti i titi “i do you know what it makes me laugh tnet— you know what it makes me laugh ttet-wet— you know what it makes me laugh ttet-wet tetgn- you know what it makes me laugh that you laugh, david that it makes you laugh, david teetee— that it makes you laugh, david because david,— that it makes you laugh, david because david, imagine if you're wentetttt— because david, imagine if you're wonderful-you've- because david, imagine if you're wonderful you've got wonderful because you've got a tteeettw— wonderful because you've got a treasury-antiques— wonderful because you've got a treasury antiques and things treasury of antiques and things in treasury of antiques and things tn wett— treasury of antiques and things tn wett nene.— treasury of antiques and things in your home, but— treasury of antiques and things in your home, but if you were tttgtet— in your home, but if you were tttgtet ent— in your home, but if you were burgled and didn't even burgled and they didn't even tnveettgete— burgled and they didn't even tnveettgete .— burgled and they didn't even investigate , don't want investigate, don't want to be. ttt— investigate, don't want to be. ttt tte— investigate, don't want to be. ttt tne netnt— investigate, don't want to be. but the point is— investigate, don't want to be. but the point is ever- investigate, don't want to be. but the point is ever since i've been this show and other been on this show and other programmes, i've always made it clear you know , the police clear that, you know, the police are not doing a very a very good job. or as brendan behan once said, there's no situation. so terrible that a policeman can't make it worse. yeah , what is make it worse. yeah, what is nettng— make it worse. yeah, what is nettng tt— make it worse. yeah, what is making it worse— make it worse. yeah, what is making it worse for- g yeah, what is making it worse for the police, do making it worse for the police, te wet— making it worse for the police, te wet tntntt — making it worse for the police, do you think? �*vat'ticc do you think? well, i think that there is first of all, i think there is first of all, i think the police have been too much interested in what i would call social non crimes. you know , social non crimes. you know, policing tweets, not the streets. exactly. policing tweets, not the streets. exactly . well, policing tweets, not the streets. exactly. well, that's a good one. why did you do that? just came up with it. well wett— just came up with it. well wett. wet-te— just came up with it. well well, you're right.- just came up with it. well well, you're right. big- just came up with it. well well, you're right. big bucks, isabel. yeah i'm surprised it's worth coming on this show. these odd moments of astonished

dad these odd moments of astonished tet ee— these odd moments of astonished tet ee nten— these odd moments of astonished tet ee nten . — these odd moments of astonished dad so much . sadly,— these odd moments of astonished dad so much . i titti dad so much. sadly, i'm old enough to be your dad. it gives me no pleasure to say that . oh, me no pleasure to say that. oh, anyway, that was entertaining. but anyway, that was entertaining. ttt wet— anyway, that was entertaining. ttt wet te— anyway, that was entertaining. but you do want— anyway, that was entertaining. but you do want to talk about the but you do want to talk about tne etnw. — but you do want to talk about the army. this— but you do want to talk about the army. this is— but you do want to talk about the army. “ g the army. this is from page of the army. this is from page of the times. yes it's interesting. and it's in 1 or 2 other papers as and it's in 1 or 2 other papers ee wett. — and it's in 1 or 2 other papers ee wett. tnte— and it's in 1 or 2 other papers as well. this is— and it's in 1 or 2 other papers as well. this is based on some evttenee— as well. this is based on some evttenee gtven— as well. this is based on some evidence given by— as well. this is based on some evidence given by a military ntetetten— evidence given by a military historian at— evidence given by a military historian at king's college , historian at king's college, centtttge.— historian at king's college, cambridge, simon anglim, to the tetenee— cambridge, simon anglim, to the defence select— cambridge, simon anglim, to the defence select committee , where defence select committee, where he defence select committee, where ne eewe— defence select committee, where ne eewe tnet— defence select committee, where he says that despite the increase piece - he says that despite the increase piece in defence enenttng— increase piece in defence enenttng tn— increase piece in defence spending in britain is not in a neettten— spending in britain is not in a position where— spending in britain is not in a position where we could fight an eteet— position where we could fight an etteet tvtv— position where we could fight an effect lviv military— position where we could fight an effect lviv military campaign . effect lviv military campaign. he eewe— effect lviv military campaign. he says reducing— effect lviv military campaign. he says reducing the number of netn— he says reducing the number of nette— he says reducing the number of main battle tanks— he says reducing the number of main battle tanks from 287 248 and main battle tanks from 287 248 ent enttnttng— main battle tanks from 287 248 and shrinking the— main battle tanks from 287 248 and shrinking the size of the etnw— and shrinking the size of the etnw te— and shrinking the size of the army to 73,000 _ and shrinking the size of the army to 73,000 means that we eettt— army to 73,000 means that we eettt ntt— army to 73,000 means that we eettt ntt tn— army to 73,000 means that we could put in only— army to 73,000 means that we could put in only into battle entw— could put in only into battle entw ene— could put in only into battle only one under—strength division nete— only one under—strength division nete tn— only one under—strength division nete tn et— only one under—strength division nete tn et twe— only one under—strength division made up of two brigades, whereas ttetent— made up of two brigades, whereas

tetent eettt— made up of two brigades, whereas poland could put— made up of two brigades, whereas poland could put in— made up of two brigades, whereas poland could put in four ttvtetene— poland could put in four divisions and— poland could put in four divisions and turkey five. now, i divisions and turkey five. now, t neteenettw— divisions and turkey five. now, i personally don't— divisions and turkey five. now, i personally don't want to spend my i personally don't want to spend nw tte— i personally don't want to spend nw ttte tetttng— i personally don't want to spend my life talking about the next ttt— my life talking about the next war, but there _ my life talking about the next war, but there is— my life talking about the next war, but there is a level of nttttetw— war, but there is a level of military preparedness s that we enettt— military preparedness s that we enettt te— military preparedness s that we should be able— military preparedness s that we should be able .— military preparedness s that we should be able . to to accomplish should be able. to to accomplish ent— should be able. to to accomplish ent tneee-e— should be able. to to accomplish and there's plenty— should be able. to to accomplish and there's plenty of evidence tnt— and there's plenty of evidence around now that— and there's plenty of evidence around now that we can't do tnet. — around now that we can't do tnet. ttt— around now that we can't do that. but the— around now that we can't do that. jnt ti that. but the problem, david, is, is a this increase in cyber attacks and this week we've just seen it with boots the bbc ba but that can be you know talk about al and all of this we're having to ramp up our defences in that department, but also the cost of crisis. we've cost of living crisis. we've already .taxes- cost of living crisis. we've already .taxes that, - i c . “g ti.”5 we've already taxes that, you already got taxes that, you tnew— already got taxes that, you knew—et- already got taxes that, youi know,_or high. already got taxes that, you- know,_or high. how know, a generation or high. how are know, a generation or high. how ene-getng— know, a generation or high. how ene-getng-tet- know, a generation or high. how are-going-for all- know, a generation or high. how are-going-for all of. are we going to pay for all of tnte— are we going to pay for all of tnte- — are we going to pay for all of tnte- tte— are we going to pay for all of this- it's-good. this now? it's a very good question. you are on for this now? it's a very good- question. you are on for poland are question. you are on for poland newtng— question. you are on for poland newtng tet— question. you are on for poland newtng tet tt— i ti“ you are on for poland are paying for it because it is are paying for it because it is e-gteetten. — are paying for it because it is a-question. it's- are paying for it because it is a question. tti”g a good question. it's very difficult give satisfactory difficult to give a satisfactory answer. as answer. but you know, but as eamonn , poland eamonn has just said, poland are paying but and there's paying for it. but and there's no doubt about it. look . paying for it. but and there's no doubt about it. look. i'm sadly old enough to have been the minister, foreign office minister responsible for russia and the soviet union when it was

the soviet union in those days, although , you know, these old although, you know, these old boys in the kremlin were quite menacing. they were they were predictable . now you've got predictable. now you've got unpredictable people , all like unpredictable people, all like putin at the helm . but if putin putin at the helm. but if putin goes, he's not going to be replaced by anyone better . goes, he's not going to be replaced by anyone better. he's going to be replaced by some of these extraordinary people who emerge, including , indeed, a emerge, including, indeed, a whole lot of journalists who now, you know, they go on the nightly news in russia and make all kinds of extreme attacks on the uk. that was never allowed in the days of the soviet union. fantasy land to dream of, you tnew— fantasy land to dream of, you knew. wevetnw— fantasy land to dream of, you know, navalny being installed in the know, navalny being installed in tne-tentt— know, navalny being installed in the-hamid karzai- know, navalny being installed in the hamid karzai was the way that hamid karzai was put the way that hamid karzai was ntt tn— the way that hamid karzai was ntt tn by— the way that hamid karzai was ntt tn by tne— the way that hamid karzai was put in by the west in afghanistan, or we've learnt, neven-t— afghanistan, or we've learnt, neven-t we— afghanistan, or we've learnt, haven't we, that— afghanistan, or we've learnt, haven't we, that don't? haven't we, that we don't? teen. — haven't we, that we don't? teen. egtne— haven't we, that we don't? yeah, regime-is- haven't we, that we don't? yeah, regime-is noti haven't we, that we don't? - yeah, regime-is not what yeah, regime change is not what we but know, people we do. but you know, people always putin's, you know, always say putin's, you know, could be, could worse, but could be, could be worse, but there options . there are there are options. there are opfions there are options. there are options russia. navalny is a options in russia. navalny is a hero. but unfortunately , you hero. but unfortunately, you tnew— hero. but unfortunately, you knew. ne— hero. but unfortunately, you knew. ne te— hero. but unfortunately, you know, he is he— but unfortunately, you know, he is he he's locked up

ent— know, he is he he's locked up ent ett— know, he is he he's locked up and all sorts— know, he is he he's locked up and all sorts of— know, he is he he's locked up and all sorts of problems . and all sorts of problems. but i tntnt— and all sorts of problems. but i tntnt wette— and all sorts of problems. but i think we're going— and all sorts of problems. but i think we're going to go to the guardian now in the interests of time . page two. emma we love to time. page two. emma we love to talk about what people are paid. give us an indication of what the fiercely ice bigwigs of britain's big companies are being paid . yeah, it's quite being paid. yeah, it's quite extraordinary— being paid. yeah, it's quite extraordinary .— being paid. yeah, it's quite extraordinary . two- “g ti yeah, it's quite extraordinary . two of the extraordinary. two of the evenntee— extraordinary. two of the examples given in the guardian , examples given in the guardian, tne— examples given in the guardian, tne ettet— examples given in the guardian, one, the chief executive of the wettenet— one, the chief executive of the national grid— one, the chief executive of the national grid is— one, the chief executive of the national grid is earning over £7 ntttten— national grid is earning over £7 ntttten tnte— national grid is earning over £7 million this year. _ national grid is earning over £7 million this year. globsec 7 ntttten. — million this year. globsec 7 million. the- million this year. globsec 7 million. the chief executive of setnetttw-e— million. the chief executive of setnetttw-e new— million. the chief executive of sainsbury's pay has gone up by 36. sainsbury's pay has gone up by at. tnt— sainsbury's pay has gone up by at. tnt wet— sainsbury's pay has gone up by et tnt wet ttet— sainsbury's pay has gone up by 36. and you just think when we are 36. and you just think when we etttggttng— 36. and you just think when we are struggling and the two tntnge— are struggling and the two tntnge tnet— are struggling and the two things that people talk about wnen— things that people talk about wnen we— things that people talk about when we talk— things that people talk about when we talk about this cost of ttvtng— when we talk about this cost of ttvtng eetete— when we talk about this cost of living crisis are— when we talk about this cost of living crisis are energy bills ent— living crisis are energy bills ent teet— living crisis are energy bills and food and— living crisis are energy bills and food and you just think tnete— and food and you just think there could— and food and you just think there could i— and food and you just think there could i mean , i'm i don't there could i mean, i'm i don't tntnt— there could i mean, i'm i don't tntnt we— there could i mean, i'm i don't think we should— there could i mean, i'm i don't think we should have sort of, you— think we should have sort of, wet tnew— think we should have sort of, wet tnew. new— think we should have sort of, you know, pay caps particularly, but you know, pay caps particularly, ttt wet— you know, pay caps particularly, ttt wet ttet— you know, pay caps particularly, but you just think,— you know, pay caps particularly, but you just think, how are you getttng— but you just think, how are you getttng ewew— but you just think, how are you getting away with— but you just think, how are you getting away with that when so nenw— getting away with that when so nenw et— getting away with that when so nenw et wett— getting away with that when so many of your customers are just

teenetete— many of your customers are just teenetete .— many of your customers are just desperate , struggling and not desperate, struggling and not ttet— desperate, struggling and not ttet wett— desperate, struggling and not just your customers ? actually, just your customers? actually, the just your customers? actually, tne neente — just your customers? actually, tne neente wne— just your customers? actually, the people who we actually meet at the people who we actually meet et setnetttw-e.— the people who we actually meet at sainsbury's, the— the people who we actually meet at sainsbury's, the workers who are at sainsbury's, the workers who eteettng— at sainsbury's, the workers who are stocking the— at sainsbury's, the workers who are stocking the shelves and wetttng— are stocking the shelves and wetttng vetw— are stocking the shelves and working very long, very hard, vetw— working very long, very hard, vetw ttttte— working very long, very hard, very little money next to netntng— very little money next to netntng . — very little money next to nothing . ntnttilcg very little money next to nothing . >t

appalling, you know, because it's the disparity. yeah. you know , it's the disparity. yeah. you knew . nw— it's the disparity. yeah. you know , my life— it's the disparity. yeah. you know , my life is- it's the disparity. yeah. you know , my life is all- g ti cg yeah. you know , my life is all in the know, my life is all in the neet.— know, my life is all in the neet. ee— know, my life is all in the neet. ee wet— know, my life is all in the past, as you know, i have no nteeent— past, as you know, i have no present future— past, as you know, i have no present future .— past, as you know, i have no present future . you're this is present future. you're this is wet— present future. you're this is wettnteeent. — present future. you're this is your present. g your present. but but it i my first job in government 40 years ago sadly was was running the electricity the government's relations with the electricity boards. i was then astonished how little these guys got paid . how little these guys got paid. so where do they get the 7 million from something somebody somewhere took over and thought, we've got to ramp these people up to no benefit at all to the public? yeah, yeah, yeah . public? yeah, yeah, yeah. ttet-e— public? yeah, yeah, yeah. that's the way it is. do you like cheese? yes, i do. what's wett— like cheese? yes, i do. what's your favourite? _ c i7 yes, i do. what's your favourite? ii c i7 yes, i do. what's yourfavourite? ii and c i7 yes, i do. what's your favourite? ii and you your favourite? cheddar. and you and your favourite? cheddar. and you ent t— your favourite? cheddar. and you ent t neve— your favourite? cheddar. and you ent t neve get— your favourite? ii and you and i have got wonderful double entne— and i have got wonderful double entne te— and i have got wonderful double entne te nteve— and i have got wonderful double chins to prove it.— and i have got wonderful double chins to prove it. you got a tettte— chins to prove it. you got a double chin— chins to prove it. you got a double chin down cheese is all enett— double chin down cheese is all about double— double chin down cheese is all about double chin. but which. wnten— about double chin. but which. wnten te— about double chin. but which. wnten te wett— about double chin. but which. which is your favourite bit of enettett— which is your favourite bit of cheddar? yes— which is your favourite bit of cheddar? yes i— which is your favourite bit of cheddar? yes i don't mind a bit cheddar? yes i don't mide a bit of cheddar? yes i don't mind a bit et enetten— cheddar? yes i don't mind a bit of cheddar, but— cheddar? yes i don't mind a bit of cheddar, but i— cheddar? yes i don't mind a bit of cheddar, but i have to admit tnte— of cheddar, but i have to admit tnte te— of cheddar, but i have to admit this is terrible— of cheddar, but i have to admit this is terrible. _ of cheddar, but i have to admit this is terrible. i— of cheddar, but i have to admit this is terrible . c this is terrible. i like a lot of french cheese . yes, well, of french cheese. yes, well, that's of french cheese. yes, well, tnet-e etew. — of french cheese. yes, well, that's okay. what about you, emma cheese fan? i love cheese. i mean, obviously ration it,

i mean, obviously i ration it, ttt— i mean, obviously i ration it, ttt teetee— i mean, obviously i ration it, but because i— i mean, obviously i ration it, but because i don't drink milk ent— but because i don't drink milk ent ntt— but because i don't drink milk ent ntt ntt— but because i don't drink milk and put milk in— but because i don't drink milk and put milk in my coffee, wete— and put milk in my coffee, you're allowed— and put milk in my coffee, you're allowed a certain amount you're allowed a certain amouth of you're allowed a certain amount et tetw— you're allowed a certain amount et tettw e— you're allowed a certain amount et tettw e tew— you're allowed a certain amount et tettw e tew en— you're allowed a certain amount of dairy a day on slimming wettt— of dairy a day on slimming wettt. se— of dairy a day on slimming wettt. se t— of dairy a day on slimming world. so i have- of dairy a day on slimming world. so i have lots of world. so i have two lots of neeee— world. so i have two lots of neeee evetw— world. so i have two lots of cheese every what type? cheese every day. what type? i tte— cheese every day. what type? i like philadelphia— cheese every day. what type? i like philadelphia . i love a good like philadelphia. i love a good enettet— like philadelphia. i love a good enettet .— like philadelphia. i love a good enettet . tne— like philadelphia. i love a good cheddar. the halloumi is my teet— cheddar. the halloumi is my tteet. sten— cheddar. the halloumi is my tteet. sten. — cheddar. the halloumi is my treat. stop. /tit. ”ti “g cheddar. the halloumi is my treat. stop. /tit. “g treat. stop. you're making me hungry . don't talk about hungry. don't talk about halloumi. it's the saltiness of. oh, it's just. it makes me sick . squeaky— oh, it's just. it makes me sick . squeaky, gelatinous- 0“ g it makes me sick . squeaky, gelatinous . \jz¢j 0“ g it makes me sick . squeaky, gelatinous . \t0 . squeaky, gelatinous. no, no, no, . squeaky, gelatinous. no, no, t— . squeaky, gelatinous. no, no, t tte— . squeaky, gelatinous. no, no, no, no. i like that . i like that no, no. i like that. i like that cheese that's got the apricots in it or the. oh, no, that's an abomination. can't be putting ttttt— abomination. can't be putting ttttt tn— abomination. can't be putting fruit in cheese. _ abomination. can't be putting fruit in cheese. you— “ can't be putting fruit in cheese. you can have it wttn— fruit in cheese. you can have it wttn tt— fruit in cheese. you can have it wttn tt en— fruit in cheese. you can have it with it on-side. - fruit in cheese. you can have it with it on-side. but- fruit in cheese. you can have it with it on side. with it on the side. but no. is tnet— with it on the side. but no. is that wensleydale yeah. i've had that wensleydale. yeah. i've had wensleydale currently— that wensleydale. yeah. i've had wensleydale currently in- i t/tint“ i've had wensleydale currently in the wtnte— wensleydale currently in the wtnte . — wensleydale currently in the wtnte . tee.— wensleydale currently in the winds . yes, yes.- wensleydale currently in the winds . t/ti5t gti5 c “g winds. yes, yes. but failing that, things we know about amazing standard old ulster cheddaris amazing standard old ulster cheddar is fine for me now , on cheddar is fine for me now, on the subject of cheese guys you're very welcome to watch this because this is interesting. this is the story about a man that eats cheese, cheese and nothing but cheese. and isabel says he's got a six pack. what? a beer. cheese and been pack. what? a beer. cheese and beer. no. six pack of abdominal

nnteeeet— beer. no. six pack of abdominal muscles . let's— beer. no. six pack of abdominal muscles . let's speak— \t0 six pack of abdominal muscles . let's speak to tracy. muscles. let's speak to tracy. i wnet— muscles. let's speak to tracy. i can see what first— muscles. let's speak to tracy. i can see what first attracted you to can see what first attracted you te wett— can see what first attracted you to your husband,— can see what first attracted you to your husband, mark, 26 years ege. — to your husband, mark, 26 years ege. tt— to your husband, mark, 26 years ege. tt wee— to your husband, mark, 26 years ege. tt tne— to your husband, mark, 26 years ago. it was the abs. tell us all enett— ago. it was the abs. tell us all etett t.— ago. it was the abs. tell us all etett tt. — ago. it was the abs. tell us all about it. good— ago. it was the abs. tell us all about it. ii “g ago. it was the abs. tell us all about it. ii “3 how are about it. good morning. how are you guys— about it. good morning. how are wet gtwe t — about it. good morning. how are wet guys? ttt— about it. good morning. how are wet guys? ttt tne— about it. good morning. how are you guys ? all the better for you guys? all the better for seeing you too, nick is hungry. so, mark, what's is that breakfast— so, mark, what's is that breakfast you've got in front of you? — breakfast you've got in front of you? ttet-e— breakfast you've got in front of you? that's just— breakfast you've got in front of you? that's just my- breakfast you've got in front of you? c you? that's just my little snack me starter. oh, my word. what? ttt— me starter. oh, my word. what? ttt tteten— me starter. oh, my word. what? but listen, mate— me starter. oh, my word. what? but listen, mate ,_ me starter. oh, my word. what? but listen, mate , no— oh, my word. what? but listen, mate , no one can but listen, mate, no one can tnte— but listen, mate, no one can answer this for— but listen, mate, no one can answer this for me . but listen, mate, no one can answer this for me. is but listen, mate, no one can answer this for me . is that all answer this for me. is that all tnett— answer this for me. is that all tnett tte— answer this for me. is that all tnett tt-e getng— answer this for me. is that all that? it's going to— answer this for me. is that all that? it's going to be today? cneeee— that? it's going to be today? cneeee et— that? it's going to be today? cheese or will— that? it's going to be today? cheese or will there be eenetntng— cheese or will there be something else with the cheese ? something else with the cheese? no, something else with the cheese? te. tettnttetw— something else with the cheese? no, definitely something- something else with the cheese? no, definitely something else. yeah. a bit of bacon or something? - yeah. a bit of bacon or something? “g yeah. a bit of bacon or- something? something healthy yeah. a bit of bacon or— something? something healthy . something? something healthy. so this started— something? something healthy. so this started actually- something? something healthy. so this started actually ,- something? “g so this started actually , i've so this started actually, i've tene— so this started actually, i've tene tnte— so this started actually, i've done this crazy— so this started actually, i've done this crazy tiktok and i had so done this crazy tiktok and i had ee t— done this crazy tiktok and i had ee t net— done this crazy tiktok and i had ee t net enz— done this crazy tiktok and i had so i had 4.2 million views and ttete— so i had 4.2 million views and 30,000 followers— so i had 4.2 million views and 30,000 followers overnight and evetwene — 30,000 followers overnight and everyone was disgusted by the neeee— everyone was disgusted by the tee eewtng— everyone was disgusted by the cheese, saying he's going to neve— cheese, saying he's going to neve e— cheese, saying he's going to neve e neett— cheese, saying he's going to have a heart attack, he's going to have a heart attack, he's going te tte— have a heart attack, he's going te tte .— have a heart attack, he's going te tte . tnt— have a heart attack, he's going te tte . tnt te— have a heart attack, he's going to die . and to me,— have a heart attack, he's going to die . and to me, because i've to die. and to me, because i've nete— to die. and to me, because i've nete tnte— to die. and to me, because i've made this sandwich for 27 or 8 weete—

made this sandwich for 27 or 8 weete ent— made this sandwich for 27 or 8 weete ent ttn— made this sandwich for 27 or 8 years and i'm thinking to nweett— years and i'm thinking to nweett. wnw— years and i'm thinking to myself, why are they saying that wete— myself, why are they saying that wete e— myself, why are they saying that you're a cheese— myself, why are they saying that you're a cheese enabler? look at ttnn— you're a cheese enabler? look at ntn wetttng— you're a cheese enabler? look at him walking around the supermarket, eating it like a snack. supermarket, eating it like a snack . and apparently you like snack. and apparently you like a piece of bread with a hole chunk, a whole packet of cheddar cheese on it. and then another piece of bread on top of it. and thatis piece of bread on top of it. and that is your normal sandwich. are we looking we're about to see this in all its glory. i know gonna have. yeah. know you're gonna have. yeah. you gotta have-cheese. know you're gonna have. yeah. you gotta have-cheese on you gotta have decent cheese on a you gotta have decent cheese on e—veen— you gotta have decent cheese on e—veen - you gotta have decent cheese on e—veen tnt- you gotta have decent cheese on e—veen tnt a sandwich. yeah. yeah and so, wet.— a sandwich. yeah. yeah and so, wet. wnet— a sandwich. yeah. yeah and so, wet. wtet te— a sandwich. yeah. yeah and so, mark, what is the appeal? why do you. why do you lick— mark, what is the appeal? why do you. why do you lick your- 7 why do you. why do you lick your lips? do you. why do you lick your lips? te wet— you. why do you lick your lips? te wet tntnt— you. why do you lick your lips? do you think you're a cheese etttett— do you think you're a cheese addict? then— do you think you're a cheese addict? then you're addicted to it addict? then you're addicted to t . — addict? then you're addicted to t . tn.— addict? then you're addicted to t. g... ween.— addict? then you're addicted to t. g... ween. t— addict? then you're addicted to it. um, yeah, i think- addict? then you're addicted to it. um, yeah, i think i- addict? then you're addicted to it. um, yeah, i think i am addicted to it, but it just started when i was a child on that. and my parents used to just put like, cheese and that on the table quite, you know, quite a bit. and onions and different things. and used different things. and i used to just of my just clear the lot. none of my brothers would touch brothers or anyone would touch it. and then i've it. hardly. and since then i've just carried on eating it. and i mean , it doesn't sound- just carried on eating it. and i. mean , it doesn't sound-been mean, it doesn't sound i've been tetng— mean, it doesn't sound i've been tetng tneee— mean, it doesn't sound i've been doing these sandwiches. i was tte— doing these sandwiches. i was tte 2t— doing these sandwiches. i was tte zt wnen— doing these sandwiches. i was like 21 when i— doing these sandwiches. i was like 21 when i went— doing these sandwiches. i was like 21 when i went with mark and i continued doing these

sandwiches didn't think sandwiches and didn't think anything of it. and all of a ettten— anything of it. and all of a ettten tte— anything of it. and all of a sudden it's gone— “g g and all of a sudden it's gone viral. ' ”ti sudden it's gone viral. are you are sudden it's gone viral. are you wet— sudden it's gone viral. are you wet e— sudden it's gone viral. are you are you a cheeser? do you do you like cheese? cheese then as well? tracy no, i have it straight through . oh, now on the straight through. oh, now on the gteetten— straight through. oh, now on the gteetten et— straight through. oh, now on the question of being— g“ 3 oh, now on the question of being straight tnetgn— question of being straight through, what— question of being straight through, what does it what way teee— through, what does it what way teee tt— through, what does it what way does it affect— through, what does it what way does it affect you? g does it affect you? mark it is netnt— does it affect you? mark it is bound to play havoc with your intestine system . i'll tell you, intestine system. i'll tell you, evetwtetw— intestine system. i'll tell you, evetwtetw teene— 5g i'll tell you, everybody keeps saying that to tnt— everybody keeps saying that to me. and that's— everybody keeps saying that to me. and that's about like, you tnew— me. and that's about like, you knew. te— me. and that's about like, you knew. te t— me. and that's about like, you know, do i have— me. and that's about like, you know, do i have problems and i neve— know, do i have problems and i neve ne— know, do i have problems and i have no problems— know, do i have problems and i have no problems whatsoever. i ten-t— have no problems whatsoever. i ten-t teenn— have no problems whatsoever. i ten-t teenn t— have no problems whatsoever. i don't dream. i don't . ' don't dream. i don't. another big— don't dream. i don't. another ttg ene— don't dream. i don't. another big one was the dreaming. people think he dreamed. but i do. and ihave think he dreamed. but i do. and i have nightmares and i don't eat cheese. oh, my goodness. you guys— eat cheese. oh, my goodness. you gtwe ee— eat cheese. oh, my goodness. you guys are scientific— i oh, my goodness. you guys are scientific marvels . guys are scientific marvels. vet-te— guys are scientific marvels. you're defying— guys are scientific marvels. you're defying all doctors. and ennetenttw— you're defying all doctors. and ennetenttw wet-e— you're defying all doctors. and apparently you're a picture of neettn— apparently you're a picture of neettn. tnt— apparently you're a picture of health. and indeed, you have a six health. and indeed, you have a etv neet.— health. and indeed, you have a six pack. would— health. and indeed, you have a six pack. would you care to demonstrate— six pack. would you care to demonstrate this and show us the evttenee— demonstrate this and show us the evttenee tnte— demonstrate this and show us the evidence this morning? it's ttennet— evidence this morning? it's dropped again. g i evidence this morning? it's dropped again. i “nt”ti dropped again. it's rock hard. i'm telling you , it sounds a

i'm telling you, it sounds a bit. crikey , not bad . can i ask bit. crikey, not bad. can i ask gteetten?— bit. crikey, not bad. can i ask one question? yes,— g crikey, not bad. can i ask one question? yes, david mellor wente— one question? yes, david mellor wente te— one question? yes, david mellor wants to interject. _ one question? yes, david mellor wants to interject. “ wants to interject. branston ttete— wants to interject. branston ttctte .— wants to interject. branston pickle . oh, sorry. pickle on pickle. oh, sorry. pickle on your cheese. yeah you've got to have branston pickle on your cheese to go on my cheese ? it's cheese to go on my cheese? it's most favourite is disgust- i titit ti“ i7 it's most favourite is disgust and it's most favourite is disgust and tt-e ttetntte— most favourite is disgust and it's marmite pepper and mayonnaise. _ it's marmite pepper and mayonnaise. oh gosh, that's tnteneettng— mayonnaise. oh gosh, that's tnteteettng. — mayonnaise. oh gosh, that's interesting. do— mayonnaise. oh gosh, that's interesting. jtit interesting. do you ever have anything sweet? mayonnaise is tevetw. — anything sweet? mayonnaise is lovely. we did film last year and even all the guys that were filming with us because we'd made so many sandwiches, they actually were eating them and said how delicious they were and what's the most unusual combination ? i mean, what did combination? i mean, what did you combination? i mean, what did wet by?— combination? i mean, what did wet by? enwtntng— i 7 i mean, what did you try? anything perverse like a sweetness with— you try? anything perverse like a sweetness with it ? a sweetness with it? um, no, no. ttet— a sweetness with it? um, no, no. ttet ne— a sweetness with it? um, no, no. ttet ne .— a sweetness with it? um, no, no. just no , he's not one for just no, he's not one for puddings, like , he's not a sweet puddings, like, he's not a sweet person. no , i would put pudding person. no, i would put pudding tetene— person. no, i would put pudding tetene tne— person. no, i would put pudding before the food— person. no, i would put pudding before the food .— no, i would put pudding before the food . yeah. no, i am before the food. yeah. no, i am a before the food. yeah. no, i am e n— before the food. yeah. no, i am a cheese aholic. _ before the food. yeah. no, i am a cheese aholic. i— before the food. yeah. no, i am a cheese aholic. i“ a cheese aholic. i can totally relate. i do like, a bit of, um,

cheese with cranberry in that in it. oh , right. okay. so you were it. oh, right. okay. so you were talking about wensleydale with apricot in and you like cheese . apricot in and you like cheese. what the cheeses do you what are the cheeses do you like? mainly cheddar and like? is it mainly cheddar and those ones? because were those ones? because we were talking about talking a moment ago about halloumi the squeak. halloumi and it's the squeak. it's the salt, it's the warmth , it's the salt, it's the warmth, it's the barbecue flavours. if you've cooked it on the barbecue, i mean, it's a diverse cheese. i love halloumi. halloumi is lovely . so my halloumi is lovely. so my tetgntet-e— halloumi is lovely. so my daughter's like- halloumi is lovely. so my daughter's like right into tettetnt — daughter's like right into halloumi as— daughter's like right into halloumi as well. she's sort of tettewtng— halloumi as well. she's sort of following after— halloumi as well. she's sort of following after me— halloumi as well. she's sort of following after me trying all the different— following after me trying all the different cheeses . yeah, i the different cheeses. yeah, i tte— the different cheeses. yeah, i tte ett— the different cheeses. yeah, i tte ett tne— the different cheeses. yeah, i like all the strong, strong the ntgnne— like all the strong, strong the ntgnne . — like all the strong, strong the ntgnne . t— like all the strong, strong the pilgrims. i love— like all the strong, strong the pilgrims. i love a- like all the strong, strong the pilgrims . “

it depends how i'm feeling. but like. yeah, mean, i'll quite like. yeah, i mean, i'll quite easily this lot. let's easily clear this lot. let's have a look at the- i let's have a look at the width so we get— have a look at the width so we get e— have a look at the width so we can get a sense— have a look at the width so we can get a sense the scale. can get a sense of the scale. ttete— can get a sense of the scale. ttee-te— can get a sense of the scale. there-to-hands. i can get a sense of the scale. i there-to-hands. can can get a sense of the scale. . there-to-hands. can i there next to your hands. can i say not actually a there next to your hands. can i say-not actually a blockj say they're not actually a block of say they're not actually a block et eneeeet— say they're not actually a block of cheese? is— say they're not actually a block of cheese? is that— say they're not actually a block of cheese? is that big ? is of cheese? is that very big? is it of cheese? is that very big? is tt teettwt — of cheese? is that very big? is it really? that's— of cheese? is that very big? is it really? “.gi it really? that's huge. that would last my family four would last my family of four more . more than a more than a week. more than a week. more than a week. more than a weet. se— more than a week. more than a week. so really?— more than a week. more than a week. so really? yeah- ”ti ’“nt“ more than a week. so really? yeah yeah. but i week. so really? yeah yeah. but t neen— week. so really? yeah yeah. but t ttn— week. so really? yeah yeah. but i mean, i'm toast— week. so really? yeah yeah. but i mean, i'm toast the other day ent— i mean, i'm toast the other day ent tt— i mean, i'm toast the other day ent tt teet— i mean, i'm toast the other day and it took two— i mean, i'm toast the other day and it took two packs. just the eeteee— and it took two packs. just the cheese on toast. how much bread ? imean, cheese on toast. how much bread ? i mean, won't that just eenntetetw— 7 i mean, won't that just completely what bread has to be eetttetgn— completely what bread has to be eetttetgn et— completely what bread has to be sourdough or something to put the sourdough or something to put tne etee— sourdough or something to put tne ettee et— sourdough or something to put the slice of bread— sourdough or something to put the slice of bread in the middle ? the slice of bread in the middle t tnte— the slice of bread in the middle t ttte te— the slice of bread in the middle .7 this is brilliant. - the slice of bread in the middle ? “5 you're the slice of bread in the middle ? “ you're my ? this is brilliant. you're my kind ? this is brilliant. you're my ttnt et— ? this is brilliant. you're my ttnt et nen— ? “ you're my kind of man. absolutely love my neeee— kind of man. absolutely love my cheese as well. _ kind of man. absolutely love my cheese as well. you— kind of man. absolutely love my cheese as well. you are the king ent— cheese as well. you are the king ent neeee— cheese as well. you are the king and cheese queen.— cheese as well. you are the king and cheese queen. i— cheese as well. you are the king and cheese queen. i see what wetve— and cheese queen. i see what wetve tene— and cheese queen. i see what you've done with— and cheese queen. i see what you've done with your t shirts. you've done with yourt shirts. tnete— you've done with yourt shirts. tnete tee.— you've done with yourt shirts. there yes. tracy— you've done with yourt shirts. there yes. tracy and mark in ttettetene. — there yes. tracy and mark in ttettetene. t— there yes. tracy and mark in maidstone. i thought you might be ttvtng— maidstone. i thought you might be ttvtng tn— maidstone. i thought you might be living in cheddar valley be living in the cheddar valley or be living in the cheddar valley e—ten— be living in the cheddar valley e—ten tn- be living in the cheddar valley or down in somerset, be living in the cheddar valley or maybe down in somerset, be living in the cheddar valley or maybe that'an in somerset, be living in the cheddar valley or maybe that's where)merset, be living in the cheddar valley or maybe that's where you'llet, but maybe that's where you'll ent—. — but maybe that's where you'll ent—. ttent- but maybe that's where you'll end_. thank you.| but maybe that's where you'll- end_. thank you. thank end up moving. thank you. thank you both very much indeed. and tracy, they're very much- tracy, they're very much the enentee— tracy, they're very much the enettet .— tracy, they're very much the enettet . vetw— tracy, they're very much the enabler , very much making all

enabler, very much making all tnte— enabler, very much making all we nennen.— enabler, very much making all this happen. and— enabler, very much making all this happen. and working in the tteten— this happen. and working in the kitchen, feeding— this happen. and working in the kitchen, feeding marks , kitchen, feeding marks, addiction— kitchen, feeding marks, addiction there. �*7 kitchen, feeding marks,- addiction there. so if you could only eat one food, you know, on mass, would it be cheese? no. ice cream. ice cream. emma burnell fried chicken. fried chicken. imean, burnell fried chicken. fried chicken. i mean, i can't, but i eettt— chicken. i mean, i can't, but i eettt ttve— chicken. i mean, i can't, but i eettt ttve en— chicken. i mean, i can't, but i could live on it. _ chicken. i mean, i can't, but i could live on it. david- i“ i i mean, i can't, but i could live on it. jnt ti �*jttvt'ticc i“ i i mean, i can't, but i could live on it. j ti �*jttvt'ticc could live on it. david well, yeah, i like ice cream, but am i permitted why doesn't he permitted to say why doesn't he make own sandwiches? right. make his own sandwiches? right. good point . i didn't make the good point. i didn't make the feminist comment this morning. i knew men , men, and i consider knew men, men, and i consider myself a new man. you know, i get in myself a new man. you know, i get tn tne— myself a new man. you know, i get in the kitchen— myself a new man. you know, i get in the kitchen as— i“?“ you know, i get in the kitchen as much as tennw— get in the kitchen as much as tennw ent— get in the kitchen as much as tennw ent we— get in the kitchen as much as penny and we and i and i enjoy neettng— penny and we and i and i enjoy eeettng .— penny and we and i and i enjoy cooking , actually. _ penny and we and i and i enjoy cooking , actually. well, cooking, actually. well, eenetntw— cooking, actually. well, certainly when it comes to nettng— certainly when it comes to nettng e— certainly when it comes to making a sandwich, i mean, god , making a sandwich, i mean, god, tnete— making a sandwich, i mean, god, tnet-e net— making a sandwich, i mean, god, that's not difficult,— making a sandwich, i mean, god, that's not difficult, is it? centetntw— that's not difficult, is it? certainly not. - that's not difficult, is it? certainly not. �*jttvt'ticc that's not difficult, is it?- certainly not. well, some people can getit certainly not. well, some people can get it very wrong, but cheese with tomato. i like cheese with tomato. i like cheese and tomatoes sandwich. i think that's nice. what would you have company your you have a company in your cheese? red onion marmalade? tee.— cheese? red onion marmalade? tee- my— cheese? red onion marmalade? tee- ttw ntn— cheese? red onion marmalade? tee- ttw ent- cheese? red onion marmalade? yes.- my mum and dad- i7 red onion marmalade? t/ti5t my mum and dad both yes. yeah my mum and dad both nete— yes. yeah my mum and dad both make excellent,— t/ti5t / my mum and dad both make excellent, excellent enttnewe.— make excellent, excellent enttnewe. se— make excellent, excellent chutneys. so really nice entnew.— chutneys. so really nice chutney. well- chutneys. so really nice chutney. well there we go. from eeteee— chutney. well there we go. from eeteee te—

chutney. well there we go. from cheese to prince— chutney. well there we go. i “ti.ti he's cheese to prince harry. he's going to be talking- cheese to prince harry. he's going to be talking a- i “ti.ti he's going to be talking a bit more in going to be talking a bit more tn tne— going to be talking a bit more tn tne ntgn— going to be talking a bit more in the high court— going to be talking a bit more in the high court today. we have our cameras prized— in the high court today. we have our cameras prized on it for you ent— our cameras prized on it for you ent wettt— our cameras prized on it for you ent we-tt neve— our cameras prized on it for you and we'll have full— our cameras prized on it for you and we'll have full coverage tntetgnett— and we'll have full coverage throughout the— and we'll have full coverage throughout the day and all the tetette— throughout the day and all the tetette tn— throughout the day and all the details in just— throughout the day and all the details in just a— throughout the day and all the details in just a minute. tette— details in just a minute. tette. wetv— details in just a minute. hello. very good- details in just a minute. hello. very good morning to you. it's aidan mcgivern here with the gb news forecast from the met once again, a lot of met office. once again, a lot of cloud up to across much cloud to wake up to across much of the uk. it will brighten up for many. i it will for many. i think it will brighten up more compared brighten up more widely compared with it's going with yesterday, but it's going to and dreary along to stay cold and dreary along the east coast because we've got the east coast because we've got the same weather we've the same weather pattern we've had weeks or more. had for three weeks or more. high to the north. this high pressure to the north. this cool easterly airflow bringing low cloud in from the north sea and that low cloud, again, is fairly extent lviv as we start the day stretching into parts of wales central scotland, not so much into the south—west of england and actually promising signs that low cloud will retreat back to the east coast by the afternoon . warm sunshine by the afternoon. warm sunshine breaking out widely elsewhere. but this must temperature contrast continues 2324 celsius

in the south and in the west. but along that north sea coast, 11 to 14 celsius, a chilly north sea wind affecting east anglia, especially norfolk and parts of kent that continues and it will continue to bring that low cloud back in once the sun goes down tonight. so overnight, low cloud becoming extensive once again across the uk . there are some across the uk. there are some signs that the west will stay clearest once again and it's going to be breezy through the day and overnight across the south and southwest. never the us tomorrow, same sort of thing. cloudy for many as we begin the day that low cloud retreating back to the east coast . a good back to the east coast. a good chance that parts of east anglia and the south—east will be less cloudy and less cold compared with recent days. but we keep the cloud for north—east england, parts of northern and eastern scotland . temperatures eastern scotland. temperatures again very mixed across the country. up the country. it is warming up in the south southwest up to the south and southwest up to the mid 20s at times later this week here. and then that huge acidity

that we're seeing in the south—west moves across the country into the weekend, bringing temperatures , us bringing higher temperatures, us high possible , but also high 20s, possible, but also a threat of thunderstorms . coming threat of thunderstorms. coming up. brace yourself for day two of harry's high court testimony as we continue our exclusive coverage of his assault on the british free press . expect more british free press. expect more tentetette— british free press. expect more bombshells like - british free press. expect more bombshells like this- g ”titi 37'”ti5t5t expect more bombshells like this using our nenw— bombshells like this using our tenw tne— bombshells like this using our harry the first— bombshells like this using our harry the first who may have come from a voicemail . �*jttvt'ticc come from a voicemail. well, ttet-e— come from a voicemail. well, then new— come from a voicemail. well, that's how i've— come from a voicemail. well, that's how i've always seen him . i've never smoked a joint in that pub or in my father's house. so join me. samantha wette— house. so join me. samantha ttettte .— house. so join me. samantha ttettte . tetw— house. so join me. samantha markle , lady colin- so join me. samantha markle , lady colin campbell and markle, lady colin campbell and jim markle, lady colin campbell and in tevtteen— markle, lady colin campbell and jim davidson for— markle, lady colin campbell and jim davidson for harry's evttenee— jim davidson for harry's evttenee .— jim davidson for harry's evidence . the- jim davidson for harry's evidence . the verdict day two evidence. the verdict day two eentng— evidence. the verdict day two eentng tn— evidence. the verdict day two eentng tn en— evidence. the verdict day two coming up on dan wootton tentgtt— coming up on dan wootton tentgnt. 9— coming up on dan wootton tentgnt. t nn— coming up on dan wootton tonight, 9 pm. to 11 pm, only on tonight, 9 pm. to 11 pm, only

gb news. prince i gb news.| prince harry igb tewe.- prince harry accuses igb tewe. — prince harry accuses the gevetnnent— prince harry accuses the government and the press of nttttng— government and the press of nttttng teet— government and the press of hitting rock bottom . hitting rock bottom. hello tnete— hitting rock bottom. hello tnete. wetv— hitting rock bottom. hello there. very good morning to you. just after 9:00, it is wednesday, the 7th of june. you're tuned into breakfast and gb news eamonn holmes, isabel webster here and leading the

news this morning, the duke of sussex will return to the high court today after blaming the tabloid press for insight . tabloid press for insight. hatred. prince harry says he etttetet— hatred. prince harry says he suffered paranoia due to alleged nteee— suffered paranoia due to alleged press intrusion,— suffered paranoia due to alleged press intrusion, losing friendships— press intrusion, losing friendships which impacted his teenege— friendships which impacted his teenege weete— friendships which impacted his teenege weete . — friendships which impacted his teenage years . qtti” friendships which impacted his teenage years . qc” ”0 000 teenage years. over 40,000 people are being evacuated in ukraine after the dam collapse. president zelenskyy has said 80 towns and villages may be affected. the prime minister says it would mark a new low if russia was found to be responsible bill. meanwhile rishi sunak has arrived in washington, dc as he prepares to meet with the us president, joe biden. the pm will push for more tegttetten— biden. the pm will push for more tegttetten en— biden. the pm will push for more regulation on artificial— regulation on artificial intelligence- regulation on artificial intelligence as well as to try ent— intelligence as well as to try ent get— intelligence as well as to try and get greater— intelligence as well as to try and get greater business links wttn— and get greater business links wttt-ts— and get greater business links wttt-ts ent— and get greater business links with-us and a— and get greater business links with us and a new weight with the us and a new weight teee— with the us and a new weight teee tetg— with the us and a new weight loss drug aimed— with the us and a new weight loss drug aimed at tackling eteettw— loss drug aimed at tackling eteettw nee— loss drug aimed at tackling obesity has been announced by the government. _ obesity has been announced by the government. ?”. obesity has been announced by the government. earlier, the health secretary, steve barclay, told us on this very programme that the scheme should be made available on the nhs as early as

possible. it's a very exciting development, but it's one alongside a range of other measures that we're taking . measures that we're taking. this is a really exciting new teetnetegw— this is a really exciting new technology, new— this is a really exciting new technology, new drugs that are evettette— technology, new drugs that are available and— technology, new drugs that are available and we— technology, new drugs that are available and we want to make tnew-te — available and we want to make sure they're available to people wttntn— sure they're available to people wttntn tne— sure they're available to people within the nhs— sure they're available to people within the nhs at— sure they're available to people within the nhs at the earliest ennentnttw— within the nhs at the earliest ennetttnttw .— within the nhs at the earliest ennetttnttw . we— within the nhs at the earliest opportunity . we . opportunity. we. wett— opportunity. we. well it- opportunity. we. well it is- opportunity. we. well it is our top story ennentnttw. we.— well it is our top story today. tttnce— well it is our top story today. tttnce tetw— well it is our top story today. tttnce harry te— well it is our top story today. prince harry is to— well it is our top story today. prince harry is to appear- well it is our top story today. prince harry is to appear for his second day at the high court this morning during day one, the duke said he'd experienced hostility from the press from the day he was born. he accused mirror the day he was born. he accused tttnet enetn— the day he was born. he accused mirror group newspapers- he accused mirror group newspapers of neettng— mirror group newspapers of neettng nte— mirror group newspapers of hacking his voicemails when he e teeneget— hacking his voicemails when he was a teenager .— hacking his voicemails when he was a teenager. he said he tettevet— was a teenager. he said he believed stories— was a teenager. he said he believed stories written in tnetn— believed stories written in their publications caused eeettttw— their publications caused security concerns for him and teneget— security concerns for him and teneget nte— security concerns for him and damaged his relationships. tetw— damaged his relationships. harry etee— damaged his relationships. harry also admitted- damaged his relationships. harry also admitted under oath that his memoir, spare, had

contradicted a claim in his witness statement. a royal reporter , cameron- a royal reporter , cameron walker, reporter, cameron walker, ettette— reporter, cameron walker, ettette .— reporter, cameron walker, outside . and— reporter, cameron walker, outside . and cameron, you're outside. and cameron, you're teetw— outside. and cameron, you're teetw te— outside. and cameron, you're teetw te ge— outside. and cameron, you're teetw te ge .— outside. and cameron, you're ready to go . prince harry will ready to go. prince harry will enneet— ready to go. prince harry will enneet tn— ready to go. prince harry will enneet tn tnet— ready to go. prince harry will appear in that box at about what ttne— appear in that box at about what ttne .— appear in that box at about what ttne . en— appear in that box at about what ttne . en tew— appear in that box at about what time . on day two,— appear in that box at about what time . on day two, we reckon time. on day two, we reckon enett— time. on day two, we reckon etett tett.— time. on day two, we reckon about 1030, eamonn. but of course , yesterday he faced course, yesterday he faced nearly five hours of questions and cross—examinations from the barrister representing mirror group newspapers, becoming the first royal to be in the witness box. first senior royal since the 19th century. in the courtroom itself yesterday, he appeared pretty calm, pretty relaxed as he spoke of the effects of the alleged unlawful information gathering and what that had on him. he said he had a huge amount of paranoia in his relationships and claims that some journalists have blood on their typing fingers. he also spoke of the state of british journalism in his witness statement. and quite controversially, for a member of the royal family the state of the royal family the state of the british government and that

it was at rock bottom , something it was at rock bottom, something which rishi sunak the prime minister would not be drawn on yesterday when asked by journalists, well , andrew journalists, well, andrew greene, kc, who is representing the mirror group newspaper, he was very hot on detail. he was very hot on the detail. he forensically went through 20 of the 33 articles which are being tested in this case. he asked prince harry specifically what was distressing him at the time when he read those articles at the time of publication. and prince harry couldn't remember or would not and said he would be speculating if he was to say that he was that he was distressed, he had to stress caused by him when he read those articles at the time of publication, the barrister also asked why he was complaining about the mirror group newspaper articles specifically when some of the information in that article, in those articles were already in the public domain because they were published by other media organisations in the days or weeks before the mirror group newspaper article was published. now the duke responded to that by saying his

understanding was that mirror group journalists used group newspaper journalists used unlawful means to move the story forward and to get some kind of exclusive. the barrister representing mirror group newspaper also used harry's memoir, spare against him. one such incident was an article written in 2003 alleging a fall out or a disagreement between prince harry and his brother, prince harry and his brother, prince william, over whether or not to meet diana's former butler . paul not to meet diana's former butler. paul burrell had two different versions of the events . that's what the barrister put to prince harry. one version of events in prince harry's memoir and the in his witness and the other in his witness statement. it's all about a balance of probabilities , balance of probabilities, according to a media lawyer who was speaking last night, as to whether or not harry is going to win some of these claims or not. but clearly , it was a very tough but clearly, it was a very tough day for prince harry yesterday. it was not an oprah interview. it was not an oprah interview. it was not an oprah interview. it was not a walk in the park for he's expected in the for him. he's expected in the court behind me from 1030 to give and it's give more evidence. and it's expected into the expected to last into the afternoon. but what are you evneettng— afternoon. but what are you expecting, _you'rel afternoon. but what are you- expecting,-you're going

expecting, cameron? you're going to expecting, cameron? you're going te-te— expecting, cameron? you're going te-te wtt— expecting, cameron? you're going to-he will have- expecting, cameron? you're going to he will have gone to be there. he will have gone nene.— to be there. he will have gone home. reflected— to be there. he will have gone home. reflected on the statement weetettew. — home. reflected on the statement weetettew. tew— home. reflected on the statement weetettew. new-wet— home. reflected on the statement yesterday. how you think yesterday. how do you think nett— yesterday. how do you think he'll-feeling— yesterday. how do you think he'll feeling today? judging he'll be feeling today? judging by wnet— he'll be feeling today? judging by wnet wet— he'll be feeling today? judging by wnet wet eew— he'll be feeling today? judging by what you saw yesterday? did you by what you saw yesterday? did wet eee— by what you saw yesterday? did you see lconfident_ by what you saw yesterday? did you see confident man? did you you see a confident man? did you see you see a confident man? did you eeelengtw— you see a confident man? did you eeelengtw-wnet- you see a confident man? did you see angry what what did see an angry man? what what did you see an angry man? what what did wet eee— see an angry man? what what did wet ent— see an angry man? what what did you see and what— see an angry man? what what did you see and what are you evneettng— you see and what are you evneettng te— you see and what are you expecting to see today after a ntgnt— expecting to see today after a ntgnt et— expecting to see today after a night or reflection . �*jttvt'ticc night or reflection. well, i saw a night or reflection. well, i saw even— night or reflection. well, i saw a very confident man, even away from the cameras , at least at from the cameras, at least at the start of the day, eamonn. but i'm sure, as you can perhaps imagine, after nearly five hours of questioning, i think perhaps his his tolerance, perhaps was starting to wane. now, the judge told him and warned him just before proceedings wrapped up yesterday that he cannot discuss his evidence or witness statements with with anybody before he comes back to court today. and prince harry actually joked to the judge that, oh, not even speaking to my two children on facetime tonight. your honoun on facetime tonight. your honour, or your or my lord. so clearly he was still happy to joke around . but nonetheless, joke around. but nonetheless, i think it's still quite it was a

very tough day for prince harry yesterday. i think coming into it today, he's going to expect more of the tough questions from this barrister, mr andrew green, who is known glorious, apparently for having this kind of grilling to the complainant. so it'll be interesting to see how he continues to handle that and whether or not, any, if he's going to produce any credible, tangible evidence which is going to help him in this case. well, you will be in the courtroom. thank you very much , cameron. thank you very much, cameron. tnt— thank you very much, cameron. tnt-tntngtng- thank you very much, cameron. tnt-tntngtng te- thank you very much, cameron. and bringing us updates and he'll be bringing us updates nete— and he'll be bringing us updates nene en— and he'll be bringing us updates nene en et— and he'll be bringing us updates here on gb news.— and he'll be bringing us updates here on gb news. and indeed, you at here on gb news. and indeed, you et—eetteel here on gb news. and indeed, you etetee— eti at home throughout the course of the at home throughout the course of tne-wettt— at home throughout the course of the-we'll have- at home throughout the course of the-we'll have full- the day. and we'll have full. coverage _continues coverage as the trial continues ttve— coverage as the trial continues ttve en— coverage as the trial continues ttve en et— coverage as the trial continues live on gb news— coverage as the trial continues live on gb news all week . live on gb news all week. okay. so live on gb news all week. okay. se-tttne— live on gb news all week. okay. so-prime minister— live on gb news all week. okay. so prime minister is in so the prime minister is in washington today to speak at an economic alliance with america to counter the rise of china, we're told. and the risk of etttttetet— ”ti gitti and the risk of artificial intelligence . ti artificial intelligence. he's etee— artificial intelligence. he's etee getng— artificial intelligence. he's etee getng te— artificial intelligence. he's also going to be- artificial intelligence. he's also going to be speaking to congressional and business leaders about more support for ukraine. well, joining us now, assistant editor at the spectator , cindy us, with her spectator, cindy us, with her hopes on this one. and i'm just

not hopes on this one. and i'm just net ee— hopes on this one. and i'm just not sure northern— ti“ and i'm just not sure northern ireland is part— not sure northern ireland is net et— not sure northern ireland is net et tne— not sure northern ireland is part of the uk.— not sure northern ireland is part of the uk. |— not sure northern ireland is part of the uk. i would say that ttten— part of the uk. i would say that ttten. tt— part of the uk. i would say that ttten. tt nete— part of the uk. i would say that biden, if he's going to spend enew— biden, if he's going to spend new ne— biden, if he's going to spend money, he wants— biden, if he's going to spend money, he wants to get the green netnt— money, he wants to get the green netnt tnete— money, he wants to get the green pound there value— money, he wants to get the green pound there value for his money tnete— pound there value for his money tnete. — pound there value for his money tnete. tete— pound there value for his money there. he's going— pound there value for his money there. he's going to- pound there value for his money there. tidtit “td g pound there value for his money there. tigtit “tig g “ there. he's going to spend it in northern ireland, part of the uk of course, but i'm just not sure what the prime minister is looking for in return and where he's looking for more areas of investment in scotland , england investment in scotland, england and wales. i would say northern ireland has got the heads up on this. ithink ireland has got the heads up on this. i think it might be less enett— this. i think it might be less about investment— i think it might be less about investment that the us can do about investment that the us can te tnte— about investment that the us can te tnte tne— about investment that the us can te tnte tne tt— about investment that the us can do into the uk and— about investment that the us can do into the uk and more about wnet— do into the uk and more about we tne— do into the uk and more about we tne ts— do into the uk and more about what the us won't— do into the uk and more about what the us won't pull away from the what the us won't pull away from tne ttt.— what the us won't pull away from tne tt. se— what the us won't pull away from tne tt. se et— what the us won't pull away from the uk. so at the— what the us won't pull away from the uk. so at the moment there's a massive, massive— the uk. so at the moment there's a massive, massive row between the a massive, massive row between tne ttt.— a massive, massive row between tne tt. tne— a massive, massive row between tne tt. tne tt— a massive, massive row between the eu, the uk and— a massive, massive row between the eu, the uk and the us about tnte— the eu, the uk and the us about we gtgentte— the eu, the uk and the us about this gigantic subsidies package that this gigantic subsidies package we ttten— this gigantic subsidies package that biden has— this gigantic subsidies package that biden has brought in. $370 ttttten— that biden has brought in. $370 ttttten te— that biden has brought in. $370 billion is the- that biden has brought in. $370 billion is the largest probably ettetttee— billion is the largest probably subsidies package in american ntetetw— subsidies package in american ntetetw en— subsidies package in american history on renewable energy. now wnet— history on renewable energy. now we tnet— history on renewable energy. now what that means— history on renewable energy. now what that means is— history on renewable energy. now what that means is that green ennenteen— what that means is that green companies, car— what that means is that green

companies, car companies eeetng— companies, car companies eteettng twe— companies, car companies creating evs and all that sort of creating evs and all that sort et ettt— creating evs and all that sort of stuff, battery— creating evs and all that sort of stuff, battery makers, tnew-te— of stuff, battery makers, tnew-te ett— of stuff, battery makers, they're all trying to get a ettee— they're all trying to get a ettee et— they're all trying to get a slice of that— they're all trying to get a slice of that by getting to the us.— slice of that by getting to the us. teevtng— slice of that by getting to the us, leaving, they_ slice of that by getting to the us, leaving, they have to manufacture _ us, leaving, they have to manufacture in the us to get the tenettte. — manufacture in the us to get the benefits. exactly— manufacture in the us to get the benefits. >k(t?{.cggt ” tig“ or benefits. exactly right. or cenete— benefits. exactly right. or cenete et— benefits. exactly right. or canada or mexico,- benefits. >k(t?{.cggt ”tig“ or canada or mexico, but benefits. >tk(t?jf...gt ” cg“ or canada or mexico, but not in benefits. >k(t?jf...gt ” tig“. or canada or mexico, but not in the uk. — canada or mexico, but not in the uk. wet— canada or mexico, but not in the uk. net tn— canada or mexico, but not in the uk. net tn tne— canada or mexico, but not in the uk. not in the eu.— canada or mexico, but not in the uk. not in the eu. so companies tte— uk. not in the eu. so companies like volkswagen— uk. not in the eu. so companies like volkswagen want that to eten — like volkswagen want that to eten neente — like volkswagen want that to stop people crossing the tettete. — stop people crossing the borders. that's a trump legacy. i borders. that's a trump legacy. ttnnw— borders. that's a trump legacy. i think, because— borders. that's a trump legacy. i think, because of— borders. that's a trump legacy. i think, because of north tnetee— i think, because of north tnetee te— i think, because of north america is now they have their ttttte— america is now they have their own little trade— america is now they have their own little trade pact in north tnetee.— own little trade pact in north tnetee. se— own little trade pact in north america. so basically this tnent— america. so basically this current subsidies pact gives tnen — current subsidies pact gives them exemption for the eu and them an exemption for the eu and them an exemption for the eu and tne tt— them an exemption for the eu and tne ttt ee— them an exemption for the eu and the uk are worried— them an exemption for the eu and the uk are worried about is, wet.— the uk are worried about is, wet-nennene- the uk are worried about is, well, happens our own the uk are worried about is, well, makers?ens our own the uk are worried about is, well, makers? what our own the uk are worried about is, well, makers? what happens battery makers? what happens to our battery makers? what happens to ettneete-t ?— battery makers? what happens to our makers ? british car our own car makers? british car tnttettw— our own car makers? british car industry-already— our own car makers? british car industry already struggling . industry is already struggling. so industry is already struggling. se tt— industry is already struggling. se tt-tete— industry is already struggling. so if-take away- industry is already struggling. so if take away all this so if you take away all this investment,— so if you take away all this investment, what about our home gtewn— investment, what about our home gtewn eenetttttw— investment, what about our home grown capability in— investment, what about our home grown capability in the renewables_ grown capability in the renewables industry? so there's no renewables industry? so there's ne wew— renewables industry? so there's ne wew tnet— renewables industry? so there's no way that the _ renewables industry? so there's no way that the uk can compete wttn— no way that the uk can compete wttn ttvt— no way that the uk can compete with $370 billion- no way that the uk can compete with $370 billion of subsidies. so with $370 billion of subsidies. se ttent — with $370 billion of subsidies. so rishi sunak— with $370 billion of subsidies. so rishi sunak is— with $370 billion of subsidies. so rishi sunak is not going to try so rishi sunak is not going to ttw te— so rishi sunak is not going to ttw te te— so rishi sunak is not going to ttw te te tnet— so rishi sunak is not going to try to do that. he's going to go tne— try to do that. he's going to go tne ts— try to do that. he's going to go over the us and— try to do that. he's going to go over the us and say, please give us over the us and say, please give televenntten.— over the us and say, please give us exemption. anything that's us an exemption. anything that's eeetet— us an exemption. anything that's neete-ttt.— us an exemption. anything that's created-uk. let's- us an exemption. anything that's created uk. let's also created in the uk. let's also neve— created in the uk. let's also neve tnet— created in the uk. let's also have that subsidy as well. and we-te-e— have that subsidy as well. and we-he's-planning. have that subsidy as well. and we-he's-planning toi we know he's also planning to talk we've talked a talk about al. we've talked a

lot it this morning and lot about it this morning and i actually wanted to talk to you about a more about something a bit more frivolous allegedly about something a bit more frivolcinvolved allegedly about something a bit more frivolcinvolved in, allegedly about something a bit more frivolcinvolved in, and gedly about something a bit more frivolcinvolved in, and that/ about something a bit more frivolcinvolved in, and that is being involved in, and that is the i think the first pitch. now, i think it's downgraded because it's been downgraded because this american this is a big american tradition. come tradition. when people come into the , into washington, tradition. when people come into the go , into washington, tradition. when people come into the go to, into washington, tradition. when people come into the go to a nto washington, tradition. when people come into the go to a baseballington,and they go to a baseball game and they're asked to throw the first pitch. now been pitch. apparently, he's now been told not to that. told he's not going to do that. you confused and like you you look confused and like you don't know anything about it. joe sunak oh, joe biden no. rishi sunak oh, really? he was being asked. he's been do different been asked to do a different event news to event now. but this is news to you. it has been quite you. sorry. it has been quite widely sorry . widely reported, but i'm sorry. i thought you could. well, he is a cricket man,— i thought you could. well, he is a cricket man, isn't— i thought you could. well, he is a cricket man, isn't he?- ig ii well, he is a cricket man, isn't he? so eveettw—e- a cricket man, isn't he? soj exactly—a good exactly that he has a good ntentng— exactly that he has a good nttentng-ttt- exactly that he has a good pitching but guess pitching arm. but i guess i ten-t— pitching arm. but i guess i tent-wnet- pitching arm. but i guess i don't what position pitching arm. but i guess i don't-what position but don't know what position he but did don't know what position he but ttt-tnet— don't know what position he but ttt-ttet tnet— don't know what position he but did-that that run- don't know what position he but did that that run that don't know what position he but diddid that that run that don't know what position he but diddid the that that run that don't know what position he but diddid the other that run that don't know what position he but diddid the other day. run that don't know what position he but diddid the other day. 45, that don't know what position he but diddid the other day. 45, 453t he did the other day. 45, 45 ntnttee— he did the other day. 45, 45 minutes, ten— he did the other day. 45, 45 minutes, ten kilometres. he's eteettw— minutes, ten kilometres. he's eteettw gttte— minutes, ten kilometres. he's clearly quite fit.— minutes, ten kilometres. he's clearly quite fit. what else is he clearly quite fit. what else is ne tetng— clearly quite fit. what else is he being made— clearly quite fit. what else is he being made to do instead? i ttnt— he being made to do instead? i ttnt-ettt— he being made to do instead? i think-still getting- think he's still getting involved a baseball game, but involved in a baseball game, but involved in a baseball game, but in a less serious way. someone would be able to tell me in my ear, what's he today? big ear, what's he doing today? big finger of a uk us ear, what's he doing today? big finger-of a uk us friendly. finger kind of a uk us friendly teeetett— finger kind of a uk us friendly baseball game— finger kind of a uk us friendly baseball game that he's ettenttng— baseball game that he's attending rather than this big tnetgttet— attending rather than this big inaugural one. _ attending rather than this big inaugural one. ' titti”gt

inaugural one. apparently every previous american president and big international visitors get asked to do this . and so sunak asked to do this. and so sunak wtt— asked to do this. and so sunak wttt ett— asked to do this. and so sunak will sit there— asked to do this. and so sunak will sit there going,— i ctit and so sunak will sit there going, yeah, ween.— will sit there going, yeah, ween. net— will sit there going, yeah, yeah, not having a clue how tnew-te— yeah, not having a clue how they're scoring _ yeah, not having a clue how they're scoring . - yeah, not having a clue how they're scoring . t/tit?t“ he lived they're scoring. yeah. he lived in they're scoring. yeah. he lived tn tne— they're scoring. yeah. he lived tn tne etetee— they're scoring. yeah. he lived in the states . _ they're scoring. yeah. he lived in the states . he— they're scoring. / he lived in the states . ti .. “ in the states. he went to uni. they know how to play baseball. do i? i can play rounders. it's net— do i? i can play rounders. it's net tnet— do i? i can play rounders. it's not that different. jtit not that different. do you know new— not that different. do you know how they score? no. no- not that different. jtit i ”ti7 no. no no, no. how they score? no. no no, no. i've got home runs. i mean, i feel like you're— i've got home runs. i mean, i feel like you're talking- tigtit. i mean, i feel like you're talking to the wteng— feel like you're talking to the wteng neente— feel like you're talking to the wrong people here. amen. but no, no, wrong people here. amen. but no, ttt— wrong people here. amen. but no, ttt tte— wrong people here. amen. but no, no, no. but it's like.— wrong people here. amen. but no, no, no. but it's like. it's- wrong people here. amen. but no, no, no. . . . . no, no. but it's like. it's like most american sport. it's really just about eating. really? that's about. whereas that's what it's about. whereas british about drinking, british sports about drinking, isn't it? true . true. isn't it? yeah, true. true. ttet-e— isn't it? yeah, true. true. that's so true. it will be. but he'll have a hot dog- he'll have a hot dog and. but wet-te— he'll have a hot dog and. but wet-te ttgtt— he'll have a hot dog and. but you're right. isabel— he'll have a hot dog and. but you're right. isabel sunak is going to be trying to say, look, i'm an american friendly prime minister. know, minister. i went to, you know, stanford. stanford. i'm a silicon you know, ai, silicon valley, you know, on al, all this stuff. it's like, all of this stuff. it's like, you know, come on, biden. come on, i get all this in on, joe. i get all of this in a way that my predecessors might not have got that not have got or that my successors so successors might not get. so he's trying to really build that personal and think personal rapport. and i think it's fourth year

it's the fourth time this year they've already met it's they've already met and it's barely very, barely june. so he's very, very, very to say , we are your very keen to say, we are your best friends. yeah. and i also teet— best friends. yeah. and i also neet nete— best friends. yeah. and i also read he's made— best friends. yeah. and i also read he's made a— i yeah. and i also read he's made a personal and i yeah. and i also read large nade a personal and i yeah. and i also read large donation arsonal and i yeah. and i also read large donation to onal and i yeah. and i also read large donation to a al and i yeah. and i also read large donation to a college very large donation to a college in very large donation to a college tn tne— very large donation to a college tn tne etetee.— very large donation to a college in the states, which is interesting. - in the states, which is interesting. he still has a netee— interesting. he still has a netee tn— interesting. he still has a house in santa- interesting. he still has a house in santa monica. i think he house in santa monica. i think ne ntetettw— house in santa monica. i think he probably quite— house in santa monica. i think he probably quite i think once if he probably quite i think once tt—eteetten- he probably quite i think once if_election next. if he loses the election next weet.— if he loses the election next weet. wet— if he loses the election next year, you could— if he loses the election next year, you could actually see him eteteette— year, you could actually see him stateside and— year, you could actually see him stateside and i— year, you could actually see him stateside and i wouldn't be ettntteet— stateside and i wouldn't be surprised. yeah,— stateside and i wouldn't be surprised. yeah, possibly . surprised. yeah, possibly. i mean,.depends- surprised. yeah, possibly. i mean,.depends on- surprised. yeah, possibly. i mean,.depends on if- surprised. yeah, possibly. i mean, depends on if thinks mean, it depends on if he thinks he could. well, depends on if mean, it depends on if he thinks he lconservative depends on if mean, it depends on if he thinks he lconservative partytnds on if mean, it depends on if he thinks he lconservative party oustsn if the conservative party ousts him at point. think there at that point. i think there might probably. well, let's have an might probably. well, let's have enten—t— might probably. well, let's have enten—t ctntw- might probably. well, let's have an_from cindy very| an update more from cindy very enettt— an update more from cindy very enetttw. wette— an update more from cindy very shortly. we're going have an shortly. we're going to have an tntete— shortly. we're going to have an tntete en— shortly. we're going to have an tntete en tne— shortly. we're going to have an update on the news and how it enenee— update on the news and how it eneneelttte— update on the news and how it shapes-like-so- update on the news and how it shapes-like-so the. shapes up like this. so the ttne— shapes up like this. so the prime minister is also saying the destruction the in the destruction of the dam in ukraine mark new low in ukraine would mark a new low in the conflict of russia, found the conflict of russia, is found to responsible. rishi the conflict of russia, is found to responsible . rishi sunak to be responsible. rishi sunak eett— to be responsible. rishi sunak eett tne— to be responsible. rishi sunak said the immediate— rishi sunak said the immediate priority is the humanitarian response . the humanitarian response. tneteente— the humanitarian response. thousands of— the humanitarian response. thousands of people now being eveetetet— thousands of people now being evacuated since— thousands of people now being evacuated since the dam in tteeten— evacuated since the dam in russian held— evacuated since the dam in russian held ukraine collapsed and russian held ukraine collapsed ent ttt— russian held ukraine collapsed ent ttt we— russian held ukraine collapsed and but we have— russian held ukraine collapsed and but we have no idea as of yet— and but we have no idea as of wet tet— and but we have no idea as of wet tet tne— and but we have no idea as of yet for the number— and but we have no idea as of yet for the number of fatalities it's reckoned _ yet for the number of fatalities it's reckoned it's— yet for the number of fatalities it's reckoned it's going to take

enett— it's reckoned it's going to take etett t— it's reckoned it's going to take etett t et— it's reckoned it's going to take etett t en t— it's reckoned it's going to take about 4 or 5 days— it's reckoned it's going to take about 4 or 5 days for that . the about 4 or 5 days for that. the wetet— about 4 or 5 days for that. the wetet tnet— about 4 or 5 days for that. the water that was— about 4 or 5 days for that. the water that was being held to tevet— water that was being held to tevet ett. — water that was being held to level out. yeah— water that was being held to level out. yeah the prime tttntetet— level out. yeah the prime minister has— level out. yeah the prime minister has described a new wetgnt— minister has described a new wetgnt teee— minister has described a new weight loss drug— minister has described a new weight loss drug scheme as a gene— weight loss drug scheme as a gene enengen — weight loss drug scheme as a game changer. 17340 ..tit“ game changer. the £40 million pilot, which can help patients lose 15% of their body weight, is intended to tackle obesity and cut nhs waiting list times. health secretary steve barclay spoke to us this morning . he spoke to us this morning. he said it will be available to patients as soon as possible . patients as soon as possible. it's a very exciting development but it's a very exciting development ttt tte— it's a very exciting development ttt tt-e ene— it's a very exciting development but it's one alongside a range of but it's one alongside a range et ettet— but it's one alongside a range of other measures— but it's one alongside a range of other measures that were tettng— of other measures that were tettng .— of other measures that were tettng . tnt— of other measures that were taking . and we're looking at, taking. and we're looking at, for taking. and we're looking at, ten evennte— taking. and we're looking at, for example, the— taking. and we're looking at, for example, the pilot in wolverhampton. we've brought in ettet— wolverhampton. we've brought in other measures— wolverhampton. we've brought in other measures in— wolverhampton. we've brought in other measures in terms of eetete— other measures in terms of calorie disclosure to better tntetn— calorie disclosure to better inform patients— calorie disclosure to better inform patients on menus. so tneee-e— inform patients on menus. so tnete-e e— inform patients on menus. so tnete-e e venge— inform patients on menus. so there's a range of— inform patients on menus. so there's a range of things we're tetng.— there's a range of things we're tetng. ttt— there's a range of things we're doing, but this— there's a range of things we're doing, but this is— there's a range of things we're doing, but this is a really eetttng— doing, but this is a really exciting new— doing, but this is a really exciting new technology and new tttge— exciting new technology and new tttge tnet— exciting new technology and new tttge tnet ee— exciting new technology and new drugs that are available and we went— drugs that are available and we went te— drugs that are available and we went te nete— drugs that are available and we want to make sure— drugs that are available and we want to make sure they're evetette— want to make sure they're available to _ want to make sure they're available to people within the wtt— available to people within the we et— available to people within the we et tne— available to people within the nhs at the earliest opportunity . teettw— nhs at the earliest opportunity . teettw e— nhs at the earliest opportunity . nearly a third— nhs at the earliest opportunity . nearly a third of— nhs at the earliest opportunity . nearly a third of primary schools in england don't have a male teacher.

schools in england don't have a male teacher . a new record low . male teacher. a new record low. a new study from the warwick business school report said boys from poorer backgrounds would benefit from having a male teacher, but they are less likely to have . one okay, it's likely to have. one okay, it's not long likely to have. one okay, it's net teng new— likely to have. one okay, it's not long now till— likely to have. one okay, it's not long now till to- . jcij“ti okay, it's not long now till to the point comes on air with— not long now till to the point comes on air with bev turner and went— comes on air with bev turner and went teten— comes on air with bev turner and mark dolan today— comes on air with bev turner and mark dolan today and they are nete— mark dolan today and they are nene tn— mark dolan today and they are nene tn tne— mark dolan today and they are here in the studio— mark dolan today and they are here in the studio to tell us wnet-e— here in the studio to tell us what's coming— here in the studio to tell us what's coming up. what have you get—wet- what's coming up. what have you get—wet netn. i got? good morning to you both. eeet— got? good morning to you both. eeet netntng— got? good morning to you both. good morning-harry.- good morning. we're on harry. watch okay. yes. is this the day tnet— watch okay. yes. is this the day we tne— watch okay. yes. is this the day we tne-tett— watch okay. yes. is this the day that the -fall off- watch okay. yes. is this the day that the -fall off 7- watch okay. yes. is this the day that the -fall off .7 he's. that the wheels fall off? he's teen — that the wheels fall off? he's teen vetw— that the wheels fall off? he's been very brave— that the wheels fall off? he's been very brave taking on the tnten— been very brave taking on the british media.— been very brave taking on the british media. and i just wonder wnetnet— british media. and i just wonder wnetnet tnte— british media. and i just wonder whether this might be his ntnee. — whether this might be his prince. newsnight whether this might be his— prince. _newsnight moment. prince. andrew newsnight moment. teen. — prince. andrew newsnight moment. teen. teen— prince. andrew newsnight moment. teen. teen . t— prince. andrew newsnight moment. yeah. yeah. imean,— prince. andrew newsnight moment. yeah. / i mean, the press yeah. yeah. i mean, the press getng— yeah. yeah. i mean, the press getng te— yeah. yeah. i mean, the press are going to never— yeah. / i mean, the press are going to never forgive harry for are going to never forgive harry tet tnte— are going to never forgive harry tet tnte. tt— are going to never forgive harry for this. if he- are going to never forgive harry for this. if he had- are going to never forgive harry for this. if he had a bad relationship— for this. if he had a bad relationship with them before. tet-e— relationship with them before. tet-e ttet— relationship with them before. tet-e ttet eee— relationship with them before. let's just see what happens in the let's just see what happens in tne—getng- let's just see what happens in tne—getngltel the future. we're going to be tetttng— the future. we're going to be tetttng-tnet- the future. we're going to be talking that also talking about that and also teettng— talking about that and also- teettng—vtett looking forward to sunak's visit to_course , you'vei to america. of course, you've teen—nete- to america. of course, you've been—herelbitl been discussing it here a bit tnte— been discussing it here a bit we netntng— been discussing it here a bit this morning. we're going to be eneettng— this morning. we're going to be eneettng-tew— this morning. we're going to be speaking few experts about speaking to a few experts about new—

speaking to a few experts about. new—went how that might go, what we want to how that might go, what we want te — how that might go, what we want te eee-ntn.— how that might go, what we want to see-him, chance- how that might go, what we want to see him, chance for him to see from him, chance for him to see from him, chance for him te—wettt- to see from him, chance for him te—wettt etegel to see from him, chance for him. to_world stage and to appear on the world stage and newne— to appear on the world stage and newte even— to appear on the world stage and maybe even break— to appear on the world stage and maybe even break the ice with joe maybe even break the ice with tee etten— maybe even break the ice with joe biden about— maybe even break the ice with joe biden about that trade deal, wnen— joe biden about that trade deal, which—tremendous. which would be a tremendous neet—tnent— which would be a tremendous. post—brexit_like which would be a tremendous. pdo —brexit_like which would be a tremendous. pdo like oat—like which would be a tremendous. pdo like this—like which would be a tremendous. pdo like this story-like which would be a tremendous. pdo like this story about-like which would be a tremendous pdo like this story about the like i do like this story about the news that britain, it turns out, is a welcoming country to is a very welcoming country to ethnic minorities. a report ethnic minorities. a new report which won't hear on other which you won't hear on other networks. yes exactly. well, yes, mark, but you- “in; fixedly well, yes, mark, but you see, beverly, vou— yes, mark, but you see, beverly, you know,— yes, mark, but you see, beverly, you know, you-ve— yes, mark, but you see, beverly, you know, you've got all your sporting— you know, you've got all your sporting credentials and whatever.— sporting credentials and whatever. and do you know how baseball— whatever. and do you know how baseball scores— whatever. and do you know how baseball scores and how it 7 oo— baseball scores and how it scores .7 do you- baseball scores and how it scores .7 do you actually scores.7 do you actually understand— scores.7 do you actually understand it- scores.7 do you actually understand it .7 : understand it.7 but i used to cover basketball. i used to the nba, didn't i, for british tv. so baseball? no. no idea. i would have loved to have seen rishi that ball . but rishi sunak bowl. that ball. but as know, it wouldn't have as we know, it wouldn't have gone . these good gone well. but these are good cricketers. he's probably got a decent bowling. yeah, you decent throw bowling. yeah, you just potential just asking for potential embarrassment though, aren't you? that's but that's kind you? that's why. but that's kind of-of— you? that's why. but that's kind of-of-tradition,- you? that's why. but that's kind of-of-tradition, isn't- of part of the tradition, isn't it? of part of the tradition, isn't in and— of part of the tradition, isn't it? and everyone— of part of the tradition, isn't it? and everyone for it? and everyone gets mocked for doing— it? and everyone gets mocked for doing-and— it? and everyone gets mocked for doing-and-even- it? and everyone gets mocked forl doing-and-even.was doing it. and obama, even he was supposed— doing it. and obama, even he was supposed oo— doing it. and obama, even he was supposed so be— doing it. and obama, even he was supposed so be so— doing it. and obama, even he was supposed to be so easy on the spous— supposed to be so easy on the sports flow,— supposed to be so easy on the sports field, laughed sports field, was laughed at. so_whenl sports field, was laughed at. i so _when david so do you remember when david cameron, when he was prime minister the david

minister went on the david letterman show and letterman quizzed british quizzed him about british history and he was struggling . history and he was struggling. and it was it was pretty awkward,— and it was it was pretty awkward, i'll- and it was it was pretty awkward, i'll be honest. yeah wou— awkward, i'll be honest. yeah well,-remember,- awkward, i'll be honest. yeah well, remember, of well, if you remember, of course,_there'sl well, if you remember, of. course,_there's an course, last time, there's an moo— course, last time, there's an moo-spou- - course, last time, there's anj idea-show. ithink course, last time, there's an. idea-show. ithink so. idea for your show. i think so. vou— idea for your show. i think so. you have that. the idea for your show. i think so. you have-that. the last| you have to do that. the last time he you have to do that. the last time us was— you have to do that. the last time he was in— flip. p:p:ip the last time he was in america, “ix/i pipip the last time he was in america, biden got time he was in america, biden pop ups— time he was in america, biden goo pus-wrong.- time he was in america, biden got his-wrong. of- time he was in america, biden got his wrong. of course. got his name wrong. of course. a very— got his name wrong. of course. a very .uk. — got his name wrong. of course. a very .uk. whatever— got his name wrong. of course. a very .uk. whatever it was. see if very .uk. whatever it was. see pf-uoppouou— very .uk. whatever it was. see if - happened here - very .uk. whatever it was. see if happened here in if that happened here in reverse, you would be racist, correct? would yes. correct? you would be, yes. because can now because we are not we can now categorically we are the because we are not we can now categracist.y we are the because we are not we can now categracist country; are the because we are not we can now categracist country in re the because we are not we can now categracist country in the 1e least racist country in the world. the windrush report, poppg— world. the windrush report, goinglbe- world. the windrush report, we're going-be-tol world. the windrush report,- we're going-be-to an we're going to be talking to an expou— we're going to be talking to an export—hou- we're going to be talking to an- expert_how welcoming we're going to be talking to an- expare. _how welcoming we're going to be talking to an expare. okay how welcoming we're going to be talking to an expare. okay okay. )w welcoming we're going to be talking to an expare. okay okay. «c13 alcoming we're going to be talking to an expare. okay okay. «c13 3: g we are. okay okay. very good. thank— we are. okay okay. very good. thank you— we are. okay okay. very good. thank you so— we are. okay okay. very good. thank you so much.— we are. okay okay. «ii: 3: thank you so much. we'll have mopopu- upo— thank you so much. we'll have more-in the last- thank you so much. we'll have more-in the last 15- more for you in the last 15 minutes— more for you in the last 15 minutes program. stay minutes of the program. stay upsu— minutes of the program. stay uppu — minutes of the program. stay with us. we're— minutes of the program. stay with us. we're going to discuss the with us. we're going to discuss pus—pu- the ongoing evacuation in mouse.— the ongoing evacuation in- ukraine._calling ukraine. rishi sunak is calling it ukraine. rishi sunak is calling is o— ukraine. rishi sunak is calling is o usu— ukraine. rishi sunak is calling is o pou— ukraine. rishi sunak is calling it a new low for— ukraine. rishi sunak is calling it a new low for russia if they-po— it a new low for russia if. puoy-po—poou they're found to have been pospopspppo— they're found to have been rezone sible_ they're found to have been rezone of le— they're found to have been rezone of le world's largest of one of the world's largest poms— of one of the world's largest ooms .—

you you know, we're sitting here puking— you you know, we're sitting here puking po— you you know, we're sitting here talking to cindy. _ you you know, we're sitting here talking to cindy. flpix. you you know, we're sitting here talking to cindy. flpi.x. c p: talking to cindy. you cindy's the assistant editor of the spectator and friend of this program. and there's so many things news wise that we're going to talk about. and one of the things in terms of prince harry, both you, isabel and cindy, were talking about how in his statement yesterday he came out as being not of the real world. yeah give give us some examples. well, so the cross—examining lawyer said , cross—examining lawyer said, couldn't someone have spotted you walking down the street in

one of these pub trips that you say was hacked out instead of someone calling in to the papers and saying that you'd gone to the pub and prince harry said, i don't walk streets. yeah. don't walk down streets. yeah. and he also it's like a universal stage . but he also universal stage. but he also sud— universal stage. but he also said poo-u— universal stage. but he also said he'd never— universal stage. but he also said he'd never had- universal stage. but he also said he'd never had a- i ii 3 but he also said he'd never had a phone bill poops— said he'd never had a phone bill popopo pu— said he'd never had a phone bill before in ms— said he'd never had a phone bill before in his life,— said he'd never had a phone bill before in his life, let alone a phone— before in his life, let alone a phone contract— before in his life, let alone a phone contract .— before in his life, let alone a phone contract . and it was phone contract. and it was oupoys— phone contract. and it was always dealt— phone contract. and it was always dealt with by somebody else— always dealt with by somebody opso . — always dealt with by somebody opso . p— always dealt with by somebody opso . p moon.— always dealt with by somebody else . i mean, i— always dealt with by somebody else. i mean, i think- always dealt with by somebody else . i else. i mean, i think he's incredibly lucky that this this trial is not being televised or they're not clips out there, audio because i think audio or video, because i think he sounds like prince andrew right . sounds prince right now. he sounds like prince andrew so out of andrew right now. he's so out of touch. you know, fair touch. and, you know, to be fair , if you grow up in that environment, maybe you can't be blamed out touch , blamed for being out of touch, but saying like that. but just saying stuff like that. and know, and then obviously, you know, twitter and then obviously, you know, tw him and then obviously, you know, twhim walking down the and then obviously, you know, tw him walking down the street. of him walking down the street. he wasn't even, you know, telling the truth remembering telling the truth or remembering correctly. of telling the truth or remembering corrtruth of telling the truth or remembering corrtruth . of telling the truth or remembering corrtruth . and of telling the truth or remembering corrtruth . and you of telling the truth or remembering corrtruth . and you wonder how my the truth. and you wonder how my truth speaking my truth, my truth, my truth is i wasn't there. yeah. truth, my truth is i wasn't there. yeah . and how you one there. yeah. and how you one wouous— there. yeah. and how you one wouous pp— there. yeah. and how you one wonders if that— there. yeah. and how you one wonders if that has— ”pii; yeah. and how you one wonders if that has changed at all wonders if that has changed at on pu— wonders if that has changed at on in ms— wonders if that has changed at all in his transition to life in

america— all in his transition to life in america pu— all in his transition to life in america in montecito or whatever it america in montecito or whatever is is. — america in montecito or whatever is is. does— america in montecito or whatever is is. does ho— america in montecito or whatever it is. does he still— america in montecito or whatever it is. does he still live in wus— it is. does he still live in this protected _ it is. does he still live in this protected bubble in this ooswoo— this protected bubble in this ooswoo — this protected bubble in this castle? ' uiilcgp this protected bubble in this castle? ' .pixyp ' p: this protected bubble in this castle? p: castle? absolutely. and lovely million multi—million dollar house. you know him and meghan raking in so much money through each spotify contract. i don't think they understand how normal people live at all. and to be fair , they shouldn't have to. fair, they shouldn't have to. but if he doesn't want to be a member of the royal family, he wants to work for, for his living, needs to living, then he kind of needs to understand actually the understand that actually the scrutiny gets because scrutiny that he gets is because he's of a constitutional he's part of a constitutional monarchy. cindy, he's part of a constitutional monarchy . cindy, who up monarchy. cindy, who blew up wus— monarchy. cindy, who blew up pups oom— monarchy. cindy, who blew up pups sum up— monarchy. cindy, who blew up this dam in ukraine,- ”pay cindy, who blew up this dam in ukraine, if he were to this dam in ukraine, if he were po puss— this dam in ukraine, if he were po pposo your— this dam in ukraine, if he were to place your bet,— this dam in ukraine, if he were to place your bet, who would it poo— to place your bet, who would it be? p— to place your bet, who would it be? p woupu— to place your bet, who would it be? i would not— to place your bet, who would it be? i would not place i wouldn't puss— be? i would not place i wouldn't pposo my— be? i would not place i wouldn't pposo my pops. — be? i would not place i wouldn't place my bets. you— be? i would not place i wouldn't place my bets. flpi.x. cg" . place my bets. you don't think it's a safe bet to say russia is behind this? you could see, if it was, i'd be surprised why the americans and the uk are not saying that . you know, that's saying that. you know, that's woo-s— saying that. you know, that's shop-s whop— saying that. you know, that's that's what that's— pg you know, that's that's what that's what's making me that's what that's what's making pus-swoo— that's what that's what's making me _twice.-know,- that's what that's what's making me twice. know, john me think twice. you know, john wwpy— kirby from the american side, wishi— kirby from the american side, rishi-wow — kirby from the american side, rishi-from the- kirby from the american side, rishi from the uk side rishi sunak from the uk side hows— rishi sunak from the uk side have ou— rishi sunak from the uk side have all said— rishi sunak from the uk side have all said it's— rishi sunak from the uk side have all said it's inconclusive pow— have all said it's inconclusive pow-anu— have all said it's inconclusive pow-and p- have all said it's inconclusive lviv-and ijust- have all said it's inconclusive lviv and i just think lviv evidence. and i just think i lviv evidence. and i just think p oops-p— lviv evidence. and i just think p uou-p pm— lviv evidence. and i just think i don't i'm not— lviv evidence. and i just think i don't i'm not privy to the wou— i don't i'm not privy to the kind of— i don't i'm not privy to the kind of intelligence briefings

pupp— kind of intelligence briefings woo—pup- kind of intelligence briefings that—but surely. that they have, but surely they woupu— that they have, but surely they wow-.— that they have, but surely they woupu-. pup— that they have, but surely they would-. but why- that they have, but surely they would . but why are they would be sure. but why are they not would be sure. but why are they pop sure.— would be sure. but why are they not sure?ihave_ would be sure. but why are they not sure?ihave no— would be sure. but why are they not sure? have no idea. not sure? i have no idea. one pump— not sure? i have no idea. one pump-supe— not sure? i have no idea. one sump-supp po— not sure? i have no idea. one thing-sure it did- not sure? i have no idea. one thing sure it did not thing is for sure it did not just break of its own accord. it has been either mined or pompou— it has been either mined or pompou op— it has been either mined or pompou op .— it has been either mined or bombed or , you- it has been either mined or bombed or , you know, as you say, bombed or, you know, as you say, you— bombed or, you know, as you say, you woupu— bombed or, you know, as you say, you woupo you— bombed or, you know, as you say, you would you would pick up if it you would you would pick up if is ws— you would you would pick up if is o— you would you would pick up if it was a missile— you would you would pick up if it was a missile strike, a drone swwo. — it was a missile strike, a drone swwo. ous— it was a missile strike, a drone strike. but it— it was a missile strike, a drone strike. but it seems- it was a missile strike, a drone strike. c strike. but it seems to be that it has been mined. i would have imagined.— it has been mined. i would have pmopppou. yos— it has been mined. i would have imagined. yes, with— it has been mined. i would have imagined. yes, with that. - c ii “in: i would have imagined. yes, with that. but you— imagined. yes, with that. but you know.— imagined. yes, with that. but you know. so— imagined. yes, with that. but you know, so much to this, puougu— you know, so much to this, ppoupp. psu-p— you know, so much to this, though, isn't there something you know, so much to this, thounghetheriere something you know, so much to this, thounghether ore something you know, so much to this, thounghether ore so it's hing you know, so much to this, thounghether ore so it's hiiwar about whether or not it's a war sumo-v — about whether or not it's a war crime? because,— about whether or not it's a war crime? because, i— about whether or not it's a war crime? f i �*" about whether or not it's a war crime? f ii �*" crime? because, i mean, if this is actually fully done, as you say, possibly by ukraine, does that constitute a war that still constitute a war crime? because it still has implications for civilians, but on people , where are on your own people, where are these civilians being taken in these civilians being taken in these humanitarian rescues ? are these humanitarian rescues? are they being forcibly taken into russian territory against their will, we've as will, which we've seen as a modus operandi before, particularly around mariupol ? particularly around mariupol? and how it different from the and how is it different from the dambusters that we talking dambusters that we were talking about? know , celebrating, about? you know, celebrating, celebrating heroes ? that celebrating them as heroes? that wasn't a war crime , not to wasn't a war crime, not to condone what's happened? well, it probably would be f: 3“ well, it probably would be regarded as a war crime nowadays . ii

a war crime nowadays. i think in the context of fighting the, i think it probably wouldn't . think it probably wouldn't. it's very hard to know. i mean , it's very hard to know. i mean, pup— it's very hard to know. i mean, pup asso— it's very hard to know. i mean, pup opso pp— it's very hard to know. i mean, but also if you— it's very hard to know. i mean, but also if you just look at who spouus— but also if you just look at who spouus po— but also if you just look at who spouus po popu— but also if you just look at who stands to gain from this, it's swoop— stands to gain from this, it's swoop pupp— stands to gain from this, it's clear that russia— stands to gain from this, it's clear that russia stands gain clear that russia stands to gain mops—puss- clear that russia stands to gain mops—puss ou| clear that russia stands to gaini mops—puss on o more than ukraine. so just on a on o pups— more than ukraine. so just on a on a pure incentives calculus, pus— on a pure incentives calculus, pus-pupp— on a pure incentives calculus, it's-that russia- on a pure incentives calculus, it's that russia stands to it's clear that russia stands to gow— it's clear that russia stands to gown-pooouso— it's clear that russia stands to gain because what gain more, because what this does— gain more, because what this woos—unpro- gain more, because what thisi does—dnipro river does is widen the dnipro river sush— does is widen the dnipro river suou pupp— does is widen the dnipro river such that the— does is widen the dnipro river such that the ukraine counter—offensive, which had puss— counter—offensive, which had puss-stopped.- counter—offensive, which had just started, which just recently started, which wpu— just recently started, which pip-o..— just recently started, which will on european tanks and will rely on european tanks and punks.— will rely on european tanks and soups oops-p— will rely on european tanks and tanks, don't do— will rely on european tanks and tanks, don't do well in water. woo— tanks, don't do well in water. wos you — tanks, don't do well in water. woo you yeah— tanks, don't do well in water. not yet. yeah you— tanks, don't do well in water. \ppip «will “43?“ you know, tanks, don't do well in water. \pi.p «will fl you know, but not yet. yeah you know, but shops-s— not yet. yeah you know, but shops-s ou— not yet. yeah you know, but there's all these— \pi.p. «pii. fl you know, but there's all these horror stories pupp— there's all these horror stories woo haven-p— there's all these horror stories that haven't been— there's all these horror stories that haven't been talked about yet that haven't been talked about yop oo— that haven't been talked about yet are revealed— that haven't been talked about yet are revealed as to the omouu— yet are revealed as to the omouup op— yet are revealed as to the amount of civilian deaths we powwo— amount of civilian deaths we were talking about animals. we powwo— were talking about animals. we were talking about animals. we were talking about the zoo that was—goodness- were talking about the zoo that. was—goodness knows was submerged. goodness knows whop— was submerged. goodness knows who upo— was submerged. goodness knows what the - levels _ was submerged. goodness knows what the - levels are - what the flood levels are poowppp— what the flood levels are peaking today. “ci“ what the flood levels are peaking today. pi“ : peaking today. later on today, it hasn't even peaked yet. i mean, that flooding is continuing, so won't know continuing, so we won't know what, days until what, three, four days until really to see the scale of it. but the pictures that we've been showing it's it showing this morning, it's it looks tsunami. yeah. and looks like a tsunami. yeah. and there have been those nuclear fears as well, right? exactly. so upriver fears as well, right? exactly. so-uppwop ps- fears as well, right? exactly. so-upriver is a- fears as well, right? exactly. . so-upriver is a nuclear so 90 miles upriver is a nuclear pious— so 90 miles upriver is a nuclear pious-poops— so 90 miles upriver is a nuclear

plant-needs-water- so 90 miles upriver is a nuclear plant needs water in plant which needs the water in the plant which needs the water in pus-po— plant which needs the water in pus-so coop- plant which needs the water in the-to coolleven. the reservoir to cool it even when— the reservoir to cool it even when - switched - the reservoir to cool it even when switched so so the reservoir to cool it even- when-switched-so so is when it's switched off. so so is shops— when it's switched off. so so is therelnuclear_ when it's switched off. so so is there nuclear disaster about there a nuclear disaster about to there a nuclear disaster about po sows— there a nuclear disaster about po o— there a nuclear disaster about po ?iof_ there a nuclear disaster about to come ?-of-all- there a nuclear disaster about to come ? of all of to come? all of these all of wus— to come? all of these all of ups supposps— to come? all of these all of this suggests russia this suggests that russia did it, this suggests that russia did p,_wp.,- this suggests that russia didi p,_..p., woupu it, right? because why would uwopuo— it, right? because why would uwopuo-o— it, right? because why would ukraine-?-again,| it, right? because why would ukraine-?-again, i ukraine do that? but again, as i say,— ukraine do that? but again, as i say pus— ukraine do that? but again, as i say pp-s-wowu— ukraine do that? but again, as i say, it's-weird that- ukraine do that? but again, as i say, it's weird that the say, it's just weird that the whips— say, it's just weird that the white house— say, it's just weird that the white house rishi sunak have sow— white house rishi sunak have said pupp— white house rishi sunak have said that the— white house rishi sunak have said that the evidence is inconclusive _ said that the evidence is inconclusive at the moment. i woupu— inconclusive at the moment. i would hows— inconclusive at the moment. i would have thought that they had mush— would have thought that they had mush swougop— would have thought that they had much stronger intelligence to show— much stronger intelligence to| show—russians much stronger intelligence to. show _ russians . show that it was the russians. very— show that it was the russians. vopy ppooposwug— show that it was the russians. very interesting .— show that it was the russians. very interesting. obviously, it's just, you know, days after the whole sort of fight back really counter—offensive by the ukrainians. and we know that moscow very retaliated those moscow very retaliated to those sorts things. it could sorts of things. so it could have provocation . and who have been a provocation. and who knows? there's so much speculation. that story speculation. i'm sure that story is itself to us is going to reveal itself to us over the next few days. that's not even counting— over the next few days. that's not even counting in- over the next few days. that's not even counting in the- not even counting in the osopoppoop— ecological the whole environmental, all of this. vow.— environmental, all of this. voou. souuy— environmental, all of this. voou. souuy .— environmental, all of this. yeah, sandy , thanks- environmental, all of this. yeah, sandy , thanks very much. yeah, sandy, thanks very much. thank you. it was a pleasure to see-spun— thank you. it was a pleasure to see-again soon,— thank you. it was a pleasure to see again soon, sure. see you again soon, i'm sure. and— see you again soon, i'm sure. and with— see you again soon, i'm sure. woo woo pus— see you again soon, i'm sure. and with the time— see you again soon, i'm sure. and with the time at 9:26, we win— and with the time at 9:26, we win soy— and with the time at 9:26, we will say that's— and with the time at 9:26, we will say that's it— and with the time at 9:26, we will say that's it from us. wuss.— will say that's it from us. adios, amigos— will say that's it from us. adios, amigos .— will say that's it from us. adios, amigos . we'll- will say that's it from us. adios, amigos . we'll be back adios, amigos. we'll be back tomorrow morning from 6 am. but up next, it is bev and mark with to the point. have a good day .

to the point. have a good day. very good morning. prince harry had a five hours in court yesterday . it wasn't an oprah yesterday. it wasn't an oprah soft soap interview. he's got more today and was a bit of breaking news there as well. isn't there anything? well there is that's is a potential protest that's outside the court. we want to is a potential protest that's outsicwhat court. we want to is a potential protest that's outsicwhat that's we want to is a potential protest that's outsicwhat that's in ve want to is a potential protest that's outsicwhat that's in regardt to is a potential protest that's outsicwhat that's in regard to. know what that's in regard to. sup— know what that's in regard to. pup op— know what that's in regard to. but of-wherever- know what that's in regard to. but of wherever harry but of course, wherever harry goes.— but of course, wherever harry goes, - controversy l but of course, wherever harry goes, controversy . goes, he brings controversy. he is goes, he brings controversy. he ps-tupuop— goes, he brings controversy. he ps-tupuop pus- goes, he brings controversy. he is-turner the day. goes, he brings controversy. he is turner the day when is today bev turner the day when the is today bev turner the day when pus-pou— is today bev turner the day when pus-pow opp— is today bev turner the day when the _fall off for— the wheels fall off for swoops-s— the wheels fall off for britain's least happy millionaire- britain's least happy millionaire prince harry. it might— millionaire prince harry. it mppup po— millionaire prince harry. it might be, but— millionaire prince harry. it might be, but apparently we are the might be, but apparently we are we poppposp— might be, but apparently we are the happiest country to live in. if the happiest country to live in. pf you— the happiest country to live in. pf you opo— the happiest country to live in. if you are-immigrant- the happiest country to live in. if you are-immigrant ,- the happiest country to live in. if you are-immigrant , if- the happiest country to live in. if you are an immigrant, if you are a person of ethnic minority. so that is some good news. we got windrush report we're got the windrush report we're going be bringing all the going to be bringing you all the details as well. details on that as well. and some stories. what some interesting stories. what about ? we are caravans about caravans? we are caravans w p— about caravans? we are caravans w p woupu— about caravans? we are caravans now . i would love— about caravans? we are caravans now . i would love-have- f“ we are caravans now . i would love have one, now. i would love to have one, pup— now. i would love to have one, pup-poun— now. i would love to have one, but-dolan says- now. i would love to have one, but-dolan says no,- now. i would love to have one, but dolan says no, i love but mrs. dolan says no, i love poem— but mrs. dolan says no, i love them .—