gb news. good afternoon . it's 3 pm. it's good afternoon. it's 3 pm. it's patrick— good afternoon. it's 3 pm. it's patrick christys_ good afternoon. it's 3 pm. it's patrick christys and— good afternoon. it's 3 pm. it's patrick christys and it- c: it's 3 pm. it's patrick christys and it is gb news. — patrick christys and it is gb news. here-s— patrick christys and it is gb news. here's what's on the menu this— news. here's what's on the menu this hour.— news. here's what's on the menu this hour. could— news. here's what's on the menu this hour. could the— news. here's what's on the menu this hour. could the civil service— this hour. could the civil service genuinely be about to strike— service genuinely be about to strike if— service genuinely be about to strike it titty— service genuinely be about to strike if they are— service genuinely be about to strike if they are asked to impismsnt— strike if they are asked to implement the rwanda scheme .7 implement the rwanda scheme? titers— implement the rwanda scheme? titers is— implement the rwanda scheme? iters is t— implement the rwanda scheme? itsis is a piti— implement the rwanda scheme? there is a plan in— implement the rwanda scheme? there is a plan in place pstsntistty— there is a plan in place potentially if- there is a plan in place potentially if they're all wetting— potentially if they're all working from - potentially if they're all working from home, why don't we put a— working from home, why don't we put a chemist— working from home, why don't we put a channel migrant in one of titti— put a channel migrant in one of their spare— put a channel migrant in one of their spare rooms— put a channel migrant in one of their spare rooms and see if titty— their spare rooms and see if they get— their spare rooms and see if they get eh— their spare rooms and see if they get on board with the honeye— they get on board with the policy? -there's- they get on board with the policy? there's also going policy? then there's also going to policy? then there's also going te-es— policy? then there's also going te-es-e— policy? then there's also going te-es-e-tiehsl to be this as well, a big trans showdown.— to be this as well, a big trans showdown. kathleen stock is

giving—sht- showdown. kathleen stock is giving and quotes, giving her quotes and quotes, controversial— giving her quotes and quotes, controversial-at- giving her quotes and quotes, controversial at the oxford controversial talk at the oxford tihieh— controversial talk at the oxford uhieh teeth— controversial talk at the oxford uhieh tetey .— controversial talk at the oxford union today . she— controversial talk at the oxford union today . she is expected to union today. she is expected to wait— union today. she is expected to wait a— union today. she is expected to walk a gauntlet— union today. she is expected to walk a gauntlet of— union today. she is expected to walk a gauntlet of hatred. what on earth— walk a gauntlet of hatred. what on earth is— walk a gauntlet of hatred. what on earth is going— walk a gauntlet of hatred. what on earth is going on there? tie-ii— on earth is going on there? tie-ii he— on earth is going on there? tie-ii he at— on earth is going on there? we'll be at scene. and we'll be at the scene. and whet-s— we'll be at the scene. and whats-ves- we'll be at the scene. and what's-yes, thei what's up, boris? yes, the teetiihe— what's up, boris? yes, the deadline-boris- what's up, boris? yes, the deadline boris johnson's deadline for boris johnson's iihetshhh— deadline for boris johnson's iihetshhh-te- deadline for boris johnson's whatsapp-to be. deadline for boris johnson's- whatsapp-to be handed whatsapp messages to be handed ever—whets- over has been extended. what's teeth— over has been extended. what's really going— over has been extended. what's really going eh— over has been extended. what's really going on here? it's all got— really going on here? it's all getliittie— really going on here? it's all gotllittle bit— really going on here? it's all got little bit weird. why are got a little bit weird. why are they— got a little bit weird. why are they se— got a little bit weird. why are they so reluctant— got a little bit weird. why are they so reluctant to hand over whatsapp—is- they so reluctant to hand over whatsapp—is it- they so reluctant to hand over whatsapp is it very whatsapp messages? is it very mush— whatsapp messages? is it very much hust— whatsapp messages? is it very much iust e— whatsapp messages? is it very much just a privacy issue or or teen-t— much just a privacy issue or or teeth-i co— much just a privacy issue or or are-and co trying- much just a privacy issue or or are and co trying to hide are sunak and co trying to hide somethihee— are sunak and co trying to hide something? and— are sunak and co trying to hide something? and finally, £0.08 athenian— something? and finally, £0.08 albanian mike— something? and finally, £0.08 albanian mike patients, some of them— albanian mike patients, some of whom came across— albanian mike patients, some of whom came across the channel have— whom came across the channel have eiteety— whom came across the channel have already been— whom came across the channel have already been jailed for a tetei— have already been jailed for a tetei et— have already been jailed for a tetei et iso— have already been jailed for a total of 130 years— have already been jailed for a total of 130 years so far this year.— total of 130 years so far this year. what— total of 130 years so far this year. what is— total of 130 years so far this year. what is going on? is this another— year. what is going on? is this another example— year. what is going on? is this another example of us risking hithe— another example of us risking public health— another example of us risking public health and safety through lax public health and safety through ihx hotter— public health and safety through lax border policy? it's going to be lax border policy? it's going to he a— lax border policy? it's going to he a tie— lax border policy? it's going to he a big heur— lax border policy? it's going to he a big heui .— lax border policy? it's going to be a big hour . yeah gb views. be a big hour. yeah gb views. a gb be a big hour. yeah gb views. a eh news— be a big hour. yeah gb views. a eh news sem— be a big hour. yeah gb views. a gb news .com loads to go out today.— gb news .com loads to go out tetey. ethy— gb news .com loads to go out tetey. otey how— gb news .com loads to go out today. okay how do you respond today. okay how do you respond to the— today. okay how do you respond to the accusations— today. okay how do you respond to the accusations that

hetehtieiiy— to the accusations that potentially home office civil servants— potentially home office civil servants could— potentially home office civil servants could strike back if they— servants could strike back if they ee— servants could strike back if they are asked— servants could strike back if they are asked to implement the twentie— they are asked to implement the twehte petieye— they are asked to implement the rwanda policy? gb views agb news.com. but— rwanda policy? gb views agb news.com. but now it's your heetiihes— news.com. but now it's your headlines with— news.com. but now it's your headlines with .— news.com. but now it's your headlines with . aaron 0: headlines with. aaron good tttetheeh — headlines with. aaron good afternoon. it's— headlines with. aaron good afternoon. it's a— headlines with. aaron good afternoon. it's a minute past three. let's get the headlines from the gb newsroom downing street is rejecting claims of a cover up as the covid 19 inquiry extended the deadline for the government to hand over boris johnson's unredacted whatsapp messages as the cabinet office now has until thursday to turn over the evidence after officials claimed they don't possess all of what's been demanded. its previously argued the material was irrelevant . the material was irrelevant. labour's deputy leader, angela rayner says the delaying tactics show this is a government with much to hide . but the prime much to hide. but the prime minister has defended their approach. the government's handed over tens and tens of thousands of documents in a spirit of candour and transparency because it is important that we learn the lessons of covid with regard to

the particular question, at the moment, we're carefully considering next steps, but the government is confident in its position. meanwhile, government is confident in its position . meanwhile, the prime position. meanwhile, the prime minister— position. meanwhile, the prime minister witt— position. meanwhile, the prime minister will meet— c iii" meanwhile, the prime minister will meet president joe hiteh— minister will meet president joe hiteh h— minister will meet president joe biden in washington next week to discuss— biden in washington next week to tiseuss hate, — biden in washington next week to discuss trade, climate action sht— discuss trade, climate action the the— discuss trade, climate action end the wee— discuss trade, climate action and the war in— discuss trade, climate action and the war in ukraine. i g and the war in ukraine. downing street.— and the war in ukraine. downing street, though, says the uk is not pursuing a full trade agreement with the united states . eamonn holmes says holly willoughby should follow philip's schofield out of the door of this morning and has predicted she won't return to the programme. schofield resigned from the broadcaster and was dropped by his agency after admitting to an affair with a young male colleague on the programme in a gb news exclusive, holmes says he believes executives at itv knew about and covered up the affair to protect philip holly willoughby and the brand . the willoughby and the brand. the show has been plagued by allegations of toxicity. lehmann also spoke to us about the moment philip came out as gay and began to feel ill. there was

and began to feel ill. there was a certain and began to feel ill. there was eeeiteih the— and began to feel ill. there was a certain line being— e�*i: g ”iii; a there was a certain line being padded here.— a certain line being padded here. i— a certain line being padded heie. iiest— a certain line being padded here. i just decided at this point,— here. i just decided at this point, het— here. i just decided at this point, not sure— here. i just decided at this point, not sure .- here. i just decided at this point, not sure . i'm just point, not sure. i'm just beginning— point, not sure. i'm just beginning te— point, not sure. i'm just beginning to feel bad vibes eheet— beginning to feel bad vibes eheet this. — beginning to feel bad vibes about this. i— beginning to feel bad vibes about this. i think i'm not seyihe— about this. i think i'm not saying anything so i don't say ehythihe— saying anything so i don't say ehythihe h— saying anything so i don't say anything in the— saying anything so i don't say anything in the opener. saying anything so i don't say anything in the opener . ruth anything in the opener. ruth seys— anything in the opener. ruth seys-she— anything in the opener. ruth seys-she hes- anything in the opener. ruth says-she has to- anything in the opener. ruth. says-she has to .then says what she has to say. then it gees— says what she has to say. then it gees te— says what she has to say. then it goes to those— says what she has to say. then it goes to those two and their eheteeetephet— it goes to those two and their choreographed way, knowing her teeits. — choreographed way, knowing her teetts—seie- faults. they are. i'm sure they-ve—teil faults. they are. i'm sure- they've _for days. they've rehearsed it for days. so they've rehearsed it for days. see-hes— they've rehearsed it for days. see-hes teen— they've rehearsed it for days. so - has been planned - they've rehearsed it for days. so-has been planned for. so this has been planned for some. planned for some some. it's been planned for some time and it then materialises . time and it then materialises. obviously, all is not what it seems because _ obviously, all is not what it seems because he has obviously tene— seems because he has obviously tehe e— seems because he has obviously tehe e teet— seems because he has obviously done a deal with— seems because he has obviously done a deal with the newspaper to give— done a deal with the newspaper to the e— done a deal with the newspaper to give a version— done a deal with the newspaper to give a version of— done a deal with the newspaper to give a version of what the hewshehei— to give a version of what the newspaper knew— to give a version of what the newspaper knew in a statement eeiiieh— newspaper knew in a statement eettieh iiv— newspaper knew in a statement earlier, itv confirmed it's in ihvestieetet— earlier, itv confirmed it's in investigated rumours of a relationship— investigated rumours of a relationship between schofield and relationship between schofield eht e— relationship between schofield eht e teiiew— relationship between schofield and a fellow employee and that teth— and a fellow employee and that heth heities— and a fellow employee and that both parties categorically and tepeetetiy— both parties categorically and repeatedly denied the rumours, as repeatedly denied the rumours, es tit— repeatedly denied the rumours, as did schofield's_ repeatedly denied the rumours, as did schofield's agent at the time— as did schofield's agent at the time . — as did schofield's agent at the time . the— as did schofield's agent at the time . the former— as did schofield's agent at the time . chin time. the former president of ukraine has told gb news their counter—offensive against russian forces will begin within days , if not hours after yet days, if not hours after yet another attack on kyiv .

another attack on kyiv. ukrainian authorities say more than 20 drones were intercepted , but at least one person has been killed . it is the third been killed. it is the third time russia has struck the ukrainian capital within 24 hours. and petro poroshenko says ukraine will hit back imminently . he would start , if not within . he would start, if not within hours , but definitely within hours, but definitely within days. but russia should know thet— days. but russia should know thet this— days. but russia should know thet this is— days. but russia should know that this is not— days. but russia should know that this is not a— : but russia should know that this is not a second world tier.— that this is not a second world tier. this— that this is not a second world tier. this is— that this is not a second world war. this is the— that this is not a second world war. this is the modern war. and itessie— war. this is the modern war. and itessie sheeti— war. this is the modern war. and russia should understand that titteihe— russia should understand that titteihe eh— russia should understand that ukraine can launch their it's het— ukraine can launch their it's hot e— ukraine can launch their it's not a counter— ukraine can launch their it's not a counter effect . this is not a counter effect. this is our offensive— not a counter effect. this is our offensive operation that it sheeti— our offensive operation that it sheeit steit— our offensive operation that it should start any— our offensive operation that it should start any moment at any piece— should start any moment at any piece .— should start any moment at any piece . — should start any moment at any piece . h— should start any moment at any piece . h hete— should start any moment at any place . a rare drone- should start any moment at any place . ' "5th; " place. a rare drone attack in moscow has damaged several buildings in the russian caphal buildings in the russian capital. the kremlin claims it shot down all eight drones and has described it as a terrorist

strike. president putin says the attack was on civilian targets . attack was on civilian targets. the prime minister says plans to restrict the marketing of vapes will prevent what he calls the unacceptable targeting of young people. minister say they will close a legal loophole allowing retailers to give free samples to children in england. they'll also consider banning nicotine free vapes being sold to under 18 seconds. the director of the uk's largest e—cigarette and vaping retailer, doug mutter, says it's a welcome step but tough action and policing is needed. tough action and policing is needed . we want actually to push needed. we want actually to push further and ask for tough sanctions to follow up the statement where we bring in fines of up to £10,000 per instance because the fines are not happening. this loophole heets— not happening. this loophole needs closed— not happening. this loophole needs closed out— not happening. this loophole needs closed out and- " g this loophole needs closed out and we need to step— needs closed out and we need to step these— needs closed out and we need to stop these products— needs closed out and we need to stop these products being accessible— stop these products being accessible to _ stop these products being accessible to children . accessible to children. this is gb accessible to children. this is he news— accessible to children. this is gb news we'll— accessible to children. this is gb news we'll bring you more as it happens. but now it's over to

. patrick home . patrick- . home office . patrick— . home office civil . patrick home office civil servants could . home office civil servants eeeit shite— . home office civil servants could strike if— . home office civil servants could strike if they— home office civil servants could strike if they have to ihhieheht— could strike if they have to implement the— could strike if they have to implement the rwanda plan. surety— implement the rwanda plan. surely-pretence- implement the rwanda plan. surely pretence that the surely any pretence that the civi— surely any pretence that the civil service _ surely any pretence that the civil service is— surely any pretence that the civil service is apolitical and ihheitiei— civil service is apolitical and impartial would— civil service is apolitical and impartial would be shattered . impartial would be shattered. the— impartial would be shattered. the hist— impartial would be shattered. the hieh sey— impartial would be shattered. the blob say they believe it to be the blob say they believe it to he ehiewtei. — the blob say they believe it to be unlawful. well. well, that's eute— be unlawful. well. well, that's cute-the— be unlawful. well. well, that's cute-the high- be unlawful. well. well, that's cute the high court cute because the high court teesh-t— cute because the high court teesh-t-is.— cute because the high court doesn't-is. and- cute because the high court doesn't is. and that's doesn't think it is. and that's whet— doesn't think it is. and that's whet teeiiy— doesn't think it is. and that's what really matters. public what really matters. the public ten-t— what really matters. the public tent-think— what really matters. the public don't-think so- what really matters. the public don't think so either. don't seem to think so either. they-ve—vetet- don't seem to think so either. they've—voted for. they've repeatedly voted for teeter— they've repeatedly voted for greater immigration controls , greater immigration controls, tough— greater immigration controls, teeeh petieies— greater immigration controls, tough policies on illegal hietetieh— tough policies on illegal hietetieh .— tough policies on illegal migration , and polling on the migration, and polling on the tweete— migration, and polling on the rwanda scheme— migration, and polling on the rwanda scheme reveals this 47% of rwanda scheme reveals this 47% et the— rwanda scheme reveals this 47% et the petite— rwanda scheme reveals this 47% of the public supported the tweete— of the public supported the rwanda asylum plan compared to just rwanda asylum plan compared to test hete— rwanda asylum plan compared to test we whe— rwanda asylum plan compared to just 26% who opposed it, and 48% thought— just 26% who opposed it, and 48% thought it— just 26% who opposed it, and 48% thought it would _ just 26% who opposed it, and 48% thought it would be— just 26% who opposed it, and 48% thought it would be effective in tetehihe— thought it would be effective in deterring people _ thought it would be effective in deterring people smugglers from trying— deterring people smugglers from trying te— deterring people smugglers from trying to get— deterring people smugglers from trying to get asylum seekers to hete— trying to get asylum seekers to cross. 40% did— trying to get asylum seekers to cross. 40% did not. so hesieeiiy— cross. 40% did not. so basically, more people support it ent— basically, more people support it end thiht— basically, more people support it and think it— basically, more people support it and think it will work. basically, more people support it and think it will work . then

it and think it will work. then ten-t— it and think it will work. then teh-t the— it and think it will work. then don't the public— it and think it will work. then don't the public and commercial services— don't the public and commercial services union— don't the public and commercial services union has,— don't the public and commercial services union has, believe it or het— services union has, believe it or not, apparently only joined ieeei— or not, apparently only joined teeet eetieh— or not, apparently only joined legal action against the rwanda plan-— legal action against the rwanda hieh. thei— legal action against the rwanda plan. their head— legal action against the rwanda plan. their head of bargaining, heet— plan. their head of bargaining, paul o'connor,— plan. their head of bargaining, paul o'connor, said there will be paul o'connor, said there will he he— paul o'connor, said there will be no stomach— paul o'connor, said there will be no stomach amongst our memehrs— be no stomach amongst our memehrs ter— be no stomach amongst our members for implementing the tweete— members for implementing the itwemte teet— members for implementing the rwanda deal and— members for implementing the rwanda deal and illegal mieretiem— rwanda deal and illegal migration bill. well, suck it up or get— migration bill. well, suck it up or get another— migration bill. well, suck it up or get another job then. i've got— or get another job then. i've got em— or get another job then. i've get em itee— or get another job then. i've get em itee .— or get another job then. i've get em itee . it— or get another job then. i've got an idea . a lot of these got an idea. a lot of these shit— got an idea. a lot of these civil servants— got an idea. a lot of these civil servants are working from heme,— civil servants are working from home epperemtty— civil servants are working from home, apparently so why not put the theme— home, apparently so why not put the channel migrants in their stere— the channel migrants in their shere teem— the channel migrants in their spare room? soon come spare room? they'd soon come remi— spare room? they'd soon come remit-twentie- spare room? they'd soon come round rwanda idea, then, round to the rwanda idea, then, weritm-t— round to the rwanda idea, then, wouldn't absolutely wouldn't they? it's absolutely tetierees— wouldn't they? it's absolutely ludicrous that— wouldn't they? it's absolutely ludicrous that appear to have ludicrous that we appear to have a ludicrous that we appear to have e civi— ludicrous that we appear to have a civil service— ludicrous that we appear to have a civil service that— ludicrous that we appear to have a civil service that is content to teemeh— a civil service that is content to launch coordinated attempts to launch coordinated attempts to trime— to launch coordinated attempts to bring term— to launch coordinated attempts to bring down government ministers— to bring down government ministers leak— to bring down government ministers leak often completely tehrieetet— ministers leak often completely fabricated information to the press— fabricated information to the press emi— fabricated information to the press emt mew— fabricated information to the press and now actively not imptememt— press and now actively not implement government policy. they— implement government policy. they get— implement government policy. they get e— implement government policy. they get e vete— implement government policy. they get a vote at the general eieetiem— they get a vote at the general election like _ they get a vote at the general election like everybody else. they— election like everybody else. they-their- election like everybody else. they _their voice l election like everybody else.- they _their voice heard they can make their voice heard thet— they can make their voice heard thet-het— they can make their voice heard thet-hut this— they can make their voice heard that-but this is— they can make their voice heard that but this is very that way. but this is very sinister— that way. but this is very sinister in— that way. but this is very sinister in my— that way. but this is very sinister in my view . what's sinister in my view. what's going— sinister in my view. what's going te— sinister in my view. what's going to happen now is that they will going to happen now is that they with tree— going to happen now is that they will drag their— going to happen now is that they will drag their feet— going to happen now is that they will drag their feet and block the—es-esi will drag their feet and block- the—es-es they the rwanda plan as much as they pessihiy— the rwanda plan as much as they pessihty-iieit— the rwanda plan as much as they possibly-wait for— the rwanda plan as much as they possibly wait for the next possibly can. wait for the next pemerei— possibly can. wait for the next general election.— possibly can. wait for the next general election. hope labour gets— general election. hope labour gets-emi— general election. hope labour gets-and-reverses- general election. hope labour gets and reverses it. gets in and then reverses it. the— gets in and then reverses it. the chit— gets in and then reverses it. the civil service— gets in and then reverses it. the civil service is paid by the

texpeyer— the civil service is paid by the texpeyer te— the civil service is paid by the taxpayer to facilitate government policy and if they tom-t— government policy and if they tent is— government policy and if they don't do that,— government policy and if they don't do that, then they sheeitm-t— don't do that, then they shouldn't be— don't do that, then they shouldn't be paid. if they go on strike,— shouldn't be paid. if they go on strike, them— shouldn't be paid. if they go on strike, then it— shouldn't be paid. if they go on strike, then it will— shouldn't be paid. if they go on strike, then it will be the worst— strike, then it will be the worst thing— strike, then it will be the worst thing they ever do because eweemrye — worst thing they ever do because eweemrye whe — worst thing they ever do because everyone who bangs about the everyone who bangs on about the hist— everyone who bangs on about the thet-he— everyone who bangs on about the thet-he prem— everyone who bangs on about the blob be proven right. blob will be proven right. tight.— blob will be proven right. tight-he- blob will be proven right. tight-he e- blob will be proven right. right. be a woke civil right. it will be a woke civil service— right. it will be a woke civil sewiee seep— right. it will be a woke civil sewiee seep .— right. it will be a woke civil service coup . well, that's what service coup. well, that's what i service coup. well, that's what i thirt— service coup. well, that's what i think i— service coup. well, that's what i think i want— service coup. well, that's what i think i want to— service coup. well, that's what i think i want to hear from you. rew— i think i want to hear from you. her em— i think i want to hear from you. her emeti— i think i want to hear from you. you can email me— i think i want to hear from you. you can email me gb views. gb wews— you can email me gb views. gb wews amt— you can email me gb views. gb news .com. and i— you can email me gb views. gb news .com. and i hope to hear trem— news .com. and i hope to hear trem yew— news .com. and i hope to hear trem yew em— news .com. and i hope to hear from you on that.— news .com. and i hope to hear from you on that. i— news .com. and i hope to hear from you on that. i am joined how,— from you on that. i am joined though— from you on that. i am joined thewph, hy— from you on that. i am joined now, though, by our deputy petitieei— now, though, by our deputy political editor— now, though, by our deputy political editor tom harwood for a political editor tom harwood for e hit— political editor tom harwood for e hit me— political editor tom harwood for e hit em— political editor tom harwood for a bit more on this.— political editor tom harwood for a bit more on this. and tom, themt— a bit more on this. and tom, them-very,— a bit more on this. and tom, thank very, much. thank you very, very much. i meeh-this— thank you very, very much. i mean, this serious, ali, be mean, can this serious, ali, be true,— mean, can this serious, ali, be the, tem— mean, can this serious, ali, be true, tom, that— mean, can this serious, ali, be true, tom, that the— mean, can this serious, ali, be true, tom, that the civil service— true, tom, that the civil service .the - true, tom, that the civil service the home office service or the home office tiwisiem— service or the home office tiwisieh et— service or the home office division of it,— service or the home office division of it, at- service or the home office division of it, at least, is considering— division of it, at least, is considering strike action over hewihe— considering strike action over hewime te— considering strike action over having to implement a government peiiey— having to implement a government peiiey e— having to implement a government peiiey swep— having to implement a government policy ? well, that— having to implement a government policy ? well, that seems to be policy? well, that seems to be the — policy? well, that seems to be the case. patrick. _ policy? well, that seems to be the case. f 'r: policy? well, that seems to be the case. rtx< 'r: c policy? well, that seems to be the case. f r: c c the case. patrick. and it isn't all that extraordinary to many people who work in the building behind me. many conservative mps

feel like the civil service just has not been willing to implement the policy that they decide. and we've spoken to many cabinet ministers and indeed former cabinet ministers over the last 5 or 6 years who have said something similar, not that the entire civil service is working against the government, but that there are pockets within it that simply are raising autant to implementing government policy. and frankly , government policy. and frankly, the power of the civil service has grown in recent years due to the turnover in government. what one senior insider was telling me very recently was that the civil service tend to sit on their own plan plans, hoping that a new minister will come along. and then when that new minister comes along, they'll put in front of that new minister. then the plans that they wanted all along saying, well, should really look like well, we should really look like we're something, we should well, we should really look like we this. something, we should well, we should really look like we this. the ething, we should well, we should really look like we this. the factig, we should well, we should really look like we this. the fact thate should well, we should really look like we this. the fact that we've ld do this. and the fact that we've had government turnover

had so much government turnover over new cabinet over so many new cabinet ministers, not enough longevity in these posts in recent years , in these posts in recent years, has really expanded that power of those within the civil service who some claim to have their own agenda . now, tom, their own agenda. now, tom, look, i their own agenda. now, tom, test, r em— their own agenda. now, tom, look, i am obviously- " 3: now, tom, look, i am obviously going to be teewsime— look, i am obviously going to be teewsime eh— look, i am obviously going to be focusing on this— look, i am obviously going to be focusing on this issue throughout- focusing on this issue throughout the course of the shew,— throughout the course of the show which — throughout the course of the show, which is— throughout the course of the show, which is that it would eppeer— show, which is that it would eppeer thet— show, which is that it would appear that the— show, which is that it would appear that the civil service petemtieiiy— appear that the civil service potentially has— appear that the civil service potentially has given up any pretense— potentially has given up any pretence pretty— potentially has given up any pretence pretty much of being impertiei— pretence pretty much of being impertiei .— pretence pretty much of being impartial . and— pretence pretty much of being impartial . and the idea that impartial. and the idea that peepie— impartial. and the idea that peepie-eeii— impartial. and the idea that people-call it- impartial. and the idea that people call it the blob are people who call it the blob are timi— people who call it the blob are some kind ridiculous some kind of ridiculous eemspireey— conspiracy theories may well eetweiiy— conspiracy theories may well actually indeed— conspiracy theories may well actually indeed be true. tom, test— actually indeed be true. tom, test hetere— actually indeed be true. tom, just before ireturn- actually indeed be true. tom, just before return to this, i just before i return to this, i wmtersteht— just before i return to this, i understand that— just before i return to this, i understand that there is a tittie— understand that there is a iittie hit— understand that there is a little bit of— understand that there is a little bit of breaking news, is thet— little bit of breaking news, is thet right,— little bit of breaking news, is that right,-you- little bit of breaking news, is that right, you want to that right, that you want to give— that right, that you want to give-mowe— that right, that you want to give-now? what- that right, that you want to give now? what it ? that right, that you want to- give.now? what-it ? i'm not give us now? what is it? i'm not exeetiy— give us now? what is it? i'm not sure exactly what breaking news you're referring to. patrick there. give me a steer. no , there. give me a steer. no, we'll go back to i c no, we'll go back to i believe there was something— we'll go back to i believe there was something about oliver pewteh— was something about oliver pewteh .— was something about oliver pewteh , het— was something about oliver dowden , but go back to it, dowden, but we'll go back to it, tom— dowden, but we'll go back to it, temlthet-s— dowden, but we'll go back to it, tom,.that's okay— dowden, but we'll go back to it, tom, that's okay you. and tom, if that's okay for you. and yeeh— tom, if that's okay for you. and yeeh, tether,— tom, if that's okay for you. and yeah, patrick,ican. - tom, if that's okay for you. and yeah, patrick, can. er?" yeah, patrick, i can. i can tell you— yeah, patrick, i can. i can tell you thet— yeah, patrick, i can. i can tell you that not. not exactly breaking news, but a greater

level of understanding with regard to been going on regard to what's been going on with this row between the cabinet and indeed the cabinet office and indeed the covid inquiry and boris johnson. now i understand that this phone call that had been planned between rishi sunak and boris johnson to smooth over some of those concerns around whether it's diaries and whatsapps ending up in the press or in the hands of the police or indeed irrelevant issues to the covid inquiry ending up in the hands of the covid inquiry that phone call that had been planned was cancelled by oliver dowden. and i understand that the reason why this phone call was cancelled by by oliver dowden is that oliver dowden feels aggrieved. the deputy prime minister feels aggrieved that there was briefing against him in the press. people around boris johnson seem to believe that mr dowden was responsible for

allowing some of these leaks that have ended up in the hands of the press and indeed the police . and he has taken against police. and he has taken against what he perceives as that kind of briefing. it really is not any sort of exaggerate ation to suggest there is a really brewing if indeed bubbling over war of words. now and indeed actions between many within the conservative party , those around conservative party, those around bods conservative party, those around boris johnson and indeed those around oliver dowden . look, tom, around oliver dowden. look, tom, thank you around oliver dowden. look, tom, themt yew emi— around oliver dowden. look, tom, thank you and sorry— around oliver dowden. look, tom, thank you and sorry for— thank you and sorry for springing— thank you and sorry for springing that on you. tom herweet— springing that on you. tom harwood there,— springing that on you. tom harwood there, our deputy petitieei— harwood there, our deputy political editor— harwood there, our deputy political editor is outside the herse— political editor is outside the house et— political editor is outside the house of commons. both of those stories— house of commons. both of those stories were— house of commons. both of those stories we're going— house of commons. both of those stories we're going to be doing a stories we're going to be doing e tet— stories we're going to be doing e iet em— stories we're going to be doing a lot on because— stories we're going to be doing a lot on because when it comes to the— a lot on because when it comes to the chit— a lot on because when it comes to the civil service,— a lot on because when it comes to the civil service, apparently threetemime— to the civil service, apparently threatening-go— to the civil service, apparently threatening go strike over threatening to go on strike over imptememtimp— implementing the rwanda plan, i tom-t— implementing the rwanda plan, i tent-think— implementing the rwanda plan, i don't-think that's- implementing the rwanda plan, i don't think that's their don't really think that's their top.— don't really think that's their tsp-i— don't really think that's their tsp-i-it- don't really think that's their tsp-i-it ewitel job. in fact, i know it quite iitereiiy— job. in fact, i know it quite iitereiiy is— job. in fact, i know it quite literally is not— job. in fact, i know it quite literally is not their job, is it? literally is not their job, is he amt— literally is not their job, is it? and that— literally is not their job, is it? and that-a- literally is not their job, is it? and that a massive it? and that is a massive concern and— it? and that is a massive concern and should be a huge concern-people.- concern and should be a huge concern people. would not concern for people. would it not be concern for people. would it not he-weeeihe— concern for people. would it not he-weeeime the- concern for people. would it noti be _wagging the-but be the tail wagging the dog, but that be the tail wagging the dog, but thet ether— be the tail wagging the dog, but thet ether hie— be the tail wagging the dog, but that other big topic and we're teepime— that other big topic and we're weeping-eyes— that other big topic and we're keeping eyes ears very,

keeping our eyes and ears very, very—et- keeping our eyes and ears very, very—et this- very closely looking at this pertiewier— very closely looking at this particular situation. now which is—whetsitpp- particular situation. now which- is_whatsapp messages is about these whatsapp messages and is about these whatsapp messages emt-teetiime— is about these whatsapp messages and-deadline.the- and the deadline for the whetsrtpp— and the deadline for the whatsapp whether or whatsapp messages and whether or not whatsapp messages and whether or met—hmrittem- not boris johnson's unridden messepes—eeimel not boris johnson's unridden messages—going be messages are indeed going to be sent— messages are indeed going to be sent-or— messages are indeed going to be sent-of course— messages are indeed going to be sent-of course ,_ messages are indeed going to be sent-of course , to- messages are indeed going to be sent of course , to the sent over. of course, to the community— sent over. of course, to the community committee there anyway , pimpe— community committee there anyway , teimime me— community committee there anyway ejoining me very— community committee there anyway , joining me very shortly is the tireeter— , joining me very shortly is the tireeter et— , joining me very shortly is the director of the— , joining me very shortly is the director of the centre for iiteretieh— director of the centre for migration and- director of the centre for migration and economic prosperity— migration and economic prosperity and former mep stephem— prosperity and former mep stephen wolf,— prosperity and former mep stephen wolf, who i'm hoping going— stephen wolf, who i'm hoping pomp te— stephen wolf, who i'm hoping we're going to be talking to in test— we're going to be talking to in test e— we're going to be talking to in test e metter— we're going to be talking to in just a matter of— we're going to be talking to in just a matter of moments. and thet— just a matter of moments. and thet is— just a matter of moments. and thet is pomp— just a matter of moments. and thet is going te— just a matter of moments. and that is going to be about whether— that is going to be about whether or— that is going to be about whether or not- that is going to be about whether or not the civil service are whether or not the civil service wett— whether or not the civil service are well within— whether or not the civil service are well within their rights or otherwise— are well within their rights or otherwise to— are well within their rights or otherwise to decide to drag their—strikel otherwise to decide to drag- their_ strike over their feet and go on strike over this— their feet and go on strike over this itwemte— their feet and go on strike over this rwanda plan.— their feet and go on strike over this rwanda plan. i'm going to go to— this rwanda plan. i'm going to go to the— this rwanda plan. i'm going to go to the inbox_ this rwanda plan. i'm going to go to the inbox now. stephen seys— go to the inbox now. stephen seys its— go to the inbox now. stephen says it's disgusting . civil says it's disgusting. civil sewemts— says it's disgusting. civil servants should have no poiitieei— servants should have no. political—are servants should have no. politiito _are servants should have no. politiito serve _are servants should have no politiito serve the are servants should have no politiito serve the government there to serve the government emi— there to serve the government emt-pwhiie— there to serve the government and-public-hunts. there to serve the government and public hunts and and the public witch hunts and enti— and the public witch hunts and emti-opihiom.— and the public witch hunts and anti-opinion. pc- anti public opinion. pc snowflake— anti public opinion. pc snowflake lefty says stephen. so stepheh— snowflake lefty says stephen. so stephem is— snowflake lefty says stephen. so stephen is certainly not his worts— stephen is certainly not his words there. _ stephen is certainly not his words there. if— stephen is certainly not his words there. if it's true that the— words there. if it's true that the chit— words there. if it's true that the civil service— words there. if it's true that the civil service will go on strike,— the civil service will go on strike, seys— the civil service will go on strike, says derek, then i can't why— strike, says derek, then i can't why we— strike, says derek, then i can't see why we can't— strike, says derek, then i can't see why we can't have a closer toot— see why we can't have a closer toot et— see why we can't have a closer toot et the— see why we can't have a closer look at the ringleaders. and this— look at the ringleaders. and this is— look at the ringleaders. and this is e— look at the ringleaders. and this is e hie— look at the ringleaders. and this is a big question , isn't this is a big question, isn't it? this is a big question, isn't

to which— this is a big question, isn't it? which is— this is a big question, isn't it? which is that if the civil service— it? which is that if the civil service is— it? which is that if the civil service is paid— it? which is that if the civil service is paid by the taxpayer to imptememt— service is paid by the taxpayer to implement government policy and-government— to implement government policy and government policy and that government policy eetweiiy— and that government policy actually-more- and that government policy actually more popular actually is a lot more popular when— actually is a lot more popular when-to— actually is a lot more popular when to deporting when it comes to deporting peopie— when it comes to deporting people rwanda, actually, people to rwanda, then actually, trehtiy—they- frankly, we really are they doing— frankly, we really are they toime-ioh. - frankly, we really are they doing-job. and- frankly, we really are they doing job. and if not, doing their job. and if not, showti— doing their job. and if not, showit they— doing their job. and if not, should they not face the consequences- should they not face the consequences of that? loads of iews— consequences of that? loads of eomime— consequences of that? loads of eomime im— consequences of that? loads of views coming in on this gb views at views coming in on this gb views et sp— views coming in on this gb views et eh wews— views coming in on this gb views at gb news .com.— views coming in on this gb views at gb news .com. you get loads more-story— at gb news .com. you get loads more-story om- at gb news .com. you get loads more-story on our- more on that story on our website— more on that story on our website _which. more on that story on our website which is more on that story on our. website-which is gb website as well, which is gb wews— website as well, which is gb wews-where— website as well, which is gb news-where you- website as well, which is gb news where you will find news .com where you will find all news .com where you will find eii ot— news .com where you will find eii ot the— news .com where you will find all of the best— news .com where you will find all of the best analysis opinion emi— all of the best analysis opinion emmewst-— all of the best analysis opinion and-news like- all of the best analysis opinion and-news like the- all of the best analysis opinion and news like the news and breaking news like the news thet—test- and breaking news like the news that—just deliveredj that tom harwood just delivered you-potentieiiy- that tom harwood just delivered you potentially major you there of potentially major meiot— you there of potentially major metor—the- major factions within the conservative _ major factions within the conservative party. but prime minister— conservative party. but prime minister rishi _ conservative party. but prime minister rishi sunak also minister rishi sunak is also facing— minister rishi sunak is also teeime e— minister rishi sunak is also teeime e is— minister rishi sunak is also facing a is backing sorry, a temimist— facing a is backing sorry, a feminist academic who has been tereetet— feminist academic who has been terpetet hy— feminist academic who has been targeted by trans— feminist academic who has been targeted by trans rights eetiwists— targeted by trans rights activists to _ targeted by trans rights activists to speak at the oxford timiom— activists to speak at the oxford whiom totey. — activists to speak at the oxford union today. professor kathleen stoch— union today. professor kathleen stoet epit— union today. professor kathleen stoet quit her— union today. professor kathleen stock quit her job— union today. professor kathleen stock quit her job as a lecturer at stock quit her job as a lecturer et the— stock quit her job as a lecturer at the university— stock quit her job as a lecturer at the university of sussex in 202i— at the university of sussex in zozi etter— at the university of sussex in 2021 after she— at the university of sussex in 2021 after she was abused for her— 2021 after she was abused for her vies— 2021 after she was abused for her .— 2021 after she was abused for her , e— 2021 after she was abused for her views , a protest and then, her views, a protest and then, of course, a counter protest trom— of course, a counter protest mom peopte— of course, a counter protest from people supporting stock are expeetet— from people supporting stock are expeetet to— from people supporting stock are expected to take— from people supporting stock are expected to take place in in the meet— expected to take place in in the next hour.— expected to take place in in the next hour. joining— expected to take place in in the next hour. joining me now is heiem— next hour. joining me now is heiem joyce,— next hour. joining me now is helen joyce, who— next hour. joining me now is helen joyce, who is the author

of helen joyce, who is the author ot the— helen joyce, who is the author ot the pooh— helen joyce, who is the author of the book trans— helen joyce, who is the author of the book trans when ideology heets— of the book trans when ideology iieets iteeiity— of the book trans when ideology iieets iteeiity .— of the book trans when ideology meets reality . helen, thank you meets reality. helen, thank you very,— meets reality. helen, thank you very, very— meets reality. helen, thank you very, very mesh.— meets reality. helen, thank you very, very much. it's great to heve— very, very much. it's great to heve you— very, very much. it's great to heve you oh— very, very much. it's great to have you on the— very, very much. it's great to have you on the show. and i emot— have you on the show. and i cannot believe _ have you on the show. and i cannot believe that it is deemed to he— cannot believe that it is deemed to he es— cannot believe that it is deemed to be as controversial as it is thet— to be as controversial as it is thet e— to be as controversial as it is thet e wome— to be as controversial as it is that a woman who says that women are women would— that a woman who says that women are women would even be called to he— are women would even be called to he hemet— are women would even be called to be banned from _ are women would even be called to be banned from talking at a university.— to be banned from talking at a university. events— to be banned from talking at a university. events somewhere where— university. events somewhere where freedom _ university. events somewhere where freedom of speech and epessiom— where freedom of speech and expression and _ where freedom of speech and expression and academic tiseowrse— expression and academic discourse is— expression and academic discourse is supposed to have top— discourse is supposed to have top priority.— discourse is supposed to have top priority. your— discourse is supposed to have top priority. your views ? i top priority. your views? i eompteteiy— top priority. your views? i completely agree with you. i too heve— completely agree with you. i too heve written — completely agree with you. i too have written a _ completely agree with you. i too have written a book— completely agree with you. i too have written a book about these issues. as kathleen has, and i too— issues. as kathleen has, and i too heve— issues. as kathleen has, and i too have been— as kathleen has, and i too have been called things like and too have been called things like emt hetetwi— too have been called things like and hateful and— too have been called things like and hateful and bigot and transphobic_ and hateful and bigot and transphobic for pointing out thet— transphobic for pointing out thet-ere— transphobic for pointing out that-are two- transphobic for pointing out that are two sexes and that there are two sexes and thet— that there are two sexes and thet-eemot— that there are two sexes and that cannot literally change that sex cannot literally change everyhoty— that sex cannot literally change everyhoty thew— that sex cannot literally change everybody knew this until about five everybody knew this until about tive minutes— everybody knew this until about five minutes ago,— everybody knew this until about five minutes ago, and now it's heome— five minutes ago, and now it's become suddenly— five minutes ago, and now it's become suddenly unsayable on campuses where— become suddenly unsayable on campuses where the slogan trans women are women— campuses where the slogan trans women are women has somehow memeeet— women are women has somehow memeeet to— women are women has somehow managed to freeze— women are women has somehow managed to freeze the what are meemt— managed to freeze the what are meemt to— managed to freeze the what are meemt to he— managed to freeze the what are meant to be the— managed to freeze the what are meant to be the brightest and pest— meant to be the brightest and test mimos— meant to be the brightest and best minds of— meant to be the brightest and best minds of our youthful eemeretioh— best minds of our youthful generation . _ best minds of our youthful generation . 3 cc; best minds of our youthful generation . g cit; generation. but alongside that

is the way in which they are not willing to allow anyone to say anything that is outside their orthodoxy . so okay, they can orthodoxy. so okay, they can disagree if they want , orthodoxy. so okay, they can disagree if they want, but orthodoxy. so okay, they can disagree if they want , but they disagree if they want, but they have to allow people to say what they think, surely. yeah. no, indeed. now i just want you to expieih— indeed. now i just want you to explain, because— indeed. now i just want you to explain, because we— 3: now i just want you to explain, because we are going to be explain, because we are going to he-timeers— explain, because we are going to be-fingers crossed- explain, because we are going to be fingers crossed anyway, be going fingers crossed anyway, at be going fingers crossed anyway, et-to— be going fingers crossed anyway, et-to you,— be going fingers crossed anyway, at-to you, kathleen- be going fingers crossed anyway, at to you, kathleen stock, at lviv to you, kathleen stock, at lviv to you, kathleen stock, elieter— at lviv to you, kathleen stock, elieter oh— at lviv to you, kathleen stock, elieter on im— at lviv to you, kathleen stock, a.later on in the- at lviv to you, kathleen stock, a later on in the show a bit later on in the show eromt— a bit later on in the show eromt the— a bit later on in the show around the 5— a bit later on in the show around the 5 pm. mark, we'll around the 5 p.m. mark, we'll heve— around the 5 p.m. mark, we'll heve e— around the 5 pm. mark, we'll heve e-wp— around the 5 pm. mark, we'll have a _up before - around the 5 pm. mark, we'll have a up before it have a build up before it heeewse— have a build up before it because we're- have a build up before it because we're expecting protests tests— because we're expecting protests tests there— because we're expecting protests tests there .well. _ because we're expecting protests tests there well. ' r: because we're expecting protests tests there well. r: g because we're expecting protests test'rsfirtlzre well. r: g because we're expecting protests test�*tehtl well. r: g because we're expecting protests test f l ' r: g because we're expecting protests test f ' t: g til" because we're expecting protests test f : ' the fact that over the weekend there held up there was a banner held up saying trans kids, i had saying arm trans kids, i had kelly j. keen that yesterday. kelly j. keen on that yesterday. we've seen all sorts of absolute madness, people being called fascists, terfs, transphobes for just very basic views just having very basic views designed far as i can tell, designed as far as i can tell, around biological, scientific and facts and with a and logical facts and with a fervent desire to protect women's rights right at the very heart of them. what is actually going on today? just explain the situation to our viewers and listeners. please basically, tethteem— listeners. please basically, kathleen has— listeners. please basically, kathleen has been- c basically, kathleen has been asked to come and kathleen has been asked to come emt speet— kathleen has been asked to come emt speet to— kathleen has been asked to come and speak to one— kathleen has been asked to come and speak to one of— kathleen has been asked to come and speak to one of the oxford soeieties. — and speak to one of the oxford societies. it's— and speak to one of the oxford societies. it's that— and speak to one of the oxford societies. it's that simple. hwmtrets— societies. it's that simple. hundreds of— societies. it's that simple.

hundreds of people come and speet— hundreds of people come and speet to— hundreds of people come and speak to these— hundreds of people come and speak to these societies of all sorts— speak to these societies of all sorts ot— speak to these societies of all sorts of views,— speak to these societies of all sorts of views, all— speak to these societies of all sorts of views, all across the potitieet— sorts of views, all across the political spectrum, much more eohroversitet— political spectrum, much more controversial. people have been estee— controversial. people have been estet to— controversial. people have been estet to speet— controversial. people have been asked to speak in— controversial. people have been asked to speak in the past and not reset— asked to speak in the past and not faced this,— asked to speak in the past and not faced this, but— asked to speak in the past and not faced this, but we've really seen a hardening— not faced this, but we've really seen a hardening of views on empws— seen a hardening of views on empws emt— seen a hardening of views on campus and among young people repertime— campus and among young people reeertime tree— campus and among young people regarding free speech and repertime— regarding free speech and regarding what you should do when— regarding what you should do when you— regarding what you should do when you disagree with people's lmemy— when you disagree with people's views. .many more— when you disagree with people's views. many more young views. as many more young people mow-thet— views. as many more young people now-that-should- views. as many more young people now-that-should not- now think that you should not not etiow— now think that you should not not allow someone to speak. if their— not allow someone to speak. if their vies— not allow someone to speak. if their views are _ not allow someone to speak. if their views are hateful and of their— their views are hateful and of course their definition of hetetwi— course their definition of hateful views— course their definition of hateful views includes thinking thet— hateful views includes thinking thetthere— hateful views includes thinking that there .two _ hateful views includes thinking that there two sexes and that there are two sexes and thet— that there are two sexes and thet thet-s— that there are two sexes and that that's actually meaningful when— that that's actually meaningful when-organising- that that's actually meaningful when organising things when you're organising things iite— when you're organising things rite—mow,- when you're organising things like know, kathleen like sport, you know, kathleen got howmtet— like sport, you know, kathleen got hounded out— like sport, you know, kathleen got hounded out of her job at susse— got hounded out of her job at sussex university— got hounded out of her job at sussex university by people protestimg. — sussex university by people protestimg. i— sussex university by people protesting. i visited her there yeers ego— protesting. i visited her there some years ago and she asked me not to— some years ago and she asked me not to speet— some years ago and she asked me not to speet to— some years ago and she asked me not to speak to her— some years ago and she asked me not to speak to her about emythimg— not to speak to her about emythimg. om— not to speak to her about anything. on the way from the thin— anything. on the way from the train station _ anything. on the way from the train station to— anything. on the way from the train station to her office, and she— train station to her office, and she weitet— train station to her office, and she waited until— train station to her office, and she waited until the door was eioset— she waited until the door was etoset-spote. - she waited until the door was- closed-spoke. -was closed before we spoke. that was the-time— closed before we spoke. that was the-time wet— closed before we spoke. that was the-time we'd met- closed before we spoke. that was the time we'd met because the first time we'd met because she— the first time we'd met because she-too— the first time we'd met because she .too afraid _ the first time we'd met because she-too afraid of- the first time we'd met because she too afraid of what she was too afraid of what peopte— she was too afraid of what people and people would hear her say and meemwes- i— people would hear her say and mean. was, i think, 2018. mean. that was, i think, 2018. so mean. that was, i think, 2018. so-hes— mean. that was, i think, 2018. so-hes teem— mean. that was, i think, 2018. so has been going on a long so this has been going on a long time. — so this has been going on a long time. tem— so this has been going on a long time. yeah, indeed.— so this has been going on a long time. yeah, indeed. i've- so this has been going on a long time. “iii?" 33 c. 3 time. yeah, indeed. i've used the phrase trans mafia at times

and i am not in any way referring to the vast majority of the trans community as far as i can gather, many of whom appear regularly on show, appear regularly on this show, who as as i can tell, have who as far as i can tell, have absolutely interest absolutely no interest whatsoever entering women's whatsoever in entering women's spaces really forcing spaces or really forcing everybody to believe what everybody else to believe what they believe. for the vast majority the i just majority of the time. i just want to get on with their lives, really, possibly really, and could quite possibly do kind of bucha. do without this kind of bucha. but do think that there is but i do think that there is something called the trans mafia, is a very vocal mafia, which is a very vocal group very people who group of very angry people who actually, think , pose actually, i think, pose a physical threat to people like yourself. and physical threat to people like yourself . and they're not mostly yourself. and they're not mostly tens— yourself. and they're not mostly tems i— yourself. and they're not mostly tems i meem— yourself. and they're not mostly trans. i mean, i— yourself. and they're not mostly trans. i mean, i call— and they're not mostly trans. i mean, i call them the sex denialist_ trans. i mean, i call them the sex denialist lobby because there— sex denialist lobby because there ee— sex denialist lobby because there are people who literally wept— there are people who literally went to— there are people who literally went to deny— there are people who literally want to deny the— there are people who literally want to deny the fact that human beings— want to deny the fact that human heimgs ee— want to deny the fact that human beings are mammals. i mean, they-re— beings are mammals. i mean, they-re es— beings are mammals. i mean, they-re es het— beings are mammals. i mean, they're as bad as,— beings are mammals. i mean, they're as bad as, you know, the emti—siee— they're as bad as, you know, the anti—science creationists who ere—they-re- are, you know, they're like retigiows— are, you know, they're likei religious _their religious extremists in their -met- religious extremists in theiri views. - mad _they views. it's so mad what they think.— views. it's so mad what they think. amt— views. it's so mad what they think. and they— views. it's so mad what they think. and they think it in such an intolerant— think. and they think it in such an intolerant way— think. and they think it in such an intolerant way that i think they-re— an intolerant way that i think they-re e— an intolerant way that i think they're a massive threat. it's etso— they're a massive threat. it's etso e— they're a massive threat. it's also a movement— they're a massive threat. it's also a movement that is very ettreetive— also a movement that is very attractive to _ also a movement that is very attractive to young men who tom-t— attractive to young men who don't actually— attractive to young men who

don't actually have any pertiewter— don't actually have any particular ideological commitment to it, but who just tite— commitment to it, but who just iite e— commitment to it, but who just iite e hit— commitment to it, but who just iite e hit ot— commitment to it, but who just like a bit of aggro.— commitment to it, but who just like a bit of aggro. so they're the— like a bit of aggro. so they're the peopte— like a bit of aggro. so they're the peopte who— like a bit of aggro. so they're the people who like to turn up with— the people who like to turn up with mests— the people who like to turn up with masks like— the people who like to turn up with masks like kelly j. keane's tetts— with masks like kelly j. keane's tetts tor— with masks like kelly j. keane's talks for example,— with masks like kelly j. keane's talks for example, because they iite— talks for example, because they hike to — talks for example, because they like to .where _ talks for example, because they like to where trouble is. like to be where the trouble is. oh,— like to be where the trouble is. eh otey. — like to be where the trouble is. oh, otey. wow— like to be where the trouble is. oh, okay. now look,- like to be where the trouble is. oh, okay. \ttiii�*tt" like to be where the trouble is. oh, okay. krirri oh, okay. now look, why is this so important? what would you say to people who say, look, you know, we really to know, what do we really need to be having a row over this? do we really prime minister really need the prime minister rishi wading in, saying rishi sunak wading in, saying it's important, you know, is it's so important, you know, is this issue that frankly this a fringe issue that frankly doesn't affect most people's lives ? well, since everyone has lives? well, since everyone has a lives? well, since everyone has c , well, since everyone has a sex, everyone needs some of their— a sex, everyone needs some of their rights— a sex, everyone needs some of their rights to— a sex, everyone needs some of their rights to be— a sex, everyone needs some of their rights to be based on their— their rights to be based on their se— their rights to be based on their sex and— their rights to be based on their sex and in- their rights to be based on their sex and in particular, women and children do. so you sent— women and children do. so you sent heve— women and children do. so you can't have women's sports if you tom-t— can't have women's sports if you eomt-thet— can't have women's sports if you don't-that female- can't have women's sports if you don't-that female is- don't know that female is a meemimgtwt— don't know that female is a meaningful category. you can't heve— meaningful category. you can't heve temete— meaningful category. you can't have female _crisis. have female only rape crisis centres, prisons,— have female only rape crisis centres, prisons, other vulnerable _ vulnerable spaces like that. showers— vulnerable spaces like that. showers-the _ vulnerable spaces like that. showers-the - if - vulnerable spaces like that. showers the if you vulnerable spaces like that.- showerslthe-if you teach showers at the gym. if you teach ehittrem— showers at the gym. if you teach children that— showers at the gym. if you teach children that sex— showers at the gym. if you teach children that sex isn't real and thet— children that sex isn't real and thet se— children that sex isn't real and thet is— children that sex isn't real and thet is e— children that sex isn't real and that sex is a spectrum, a sigmitieemt— that sex is a spectrum, a significant number of them will stert— significant number of them will start-experience— significant number of them will start experience gender start to experience gender tysphorie— start to experience genderj dysphoria _will dysphoria and will go will heome— dysphoria and will go will. become _will become mentally ill and will them— become mentally ill and will then-towards— become mentally ill and will then towards irreversible then go towards irreversible ehemges— then go towards irreversible ehehges to— then go towards irreversible changes to their body that could teet— changes to their body that could teet to— changes to their body that could lead to sterility. _ changes to their body that could lead to sterility. so 100% of us

etteetet— lead to sterility. so 100% of us are affected by— lead to sterility. so 100% of us are affected by this and free speech— are affected by this and free speech affects— are affected by this and free speech affects 100% of us. if you— speech affects 100% of us. if you tom-t— speech affects 100% of us. if you don't stand— speech affects 100% of us. if you don't stand up for people seyimg— you don't stand up for people seyimg-thet— you don't stand up for people seyimg-thet you- you don't stand up for people saying that you don't saying things that you don't persometty— saying things that you don't personally agree with, when personally agree with, then when they— personally agree with, then when they-you, — personally agree with, then when they-yow,-hevei they come for you, you will have no eiiies. — they come for you, you will have no eiiies. very.— they come for you, you will have no allies. very, very— they come for you, you will have no allies. rig rig no allies. very, very well put. thank you, helen. always a pleasure. helen joyce is the author trans when author of the book trans when ideology meets reality and something that helen was alluding apparently alluding to there apparently 1 in 10 people now, 1 in 10 young people now are walking around believing they've born believing that they've been born into and that into the wrong body and that their isn't real, etcetera. their sex isn't real, etcetera. so is no way anyone can so there is no way anyone can tell that for the entirety of tell me that for the entirety of human history, 1 in 10 of us have been wandering around deeply conflicted deeply confused and conflicted about that were being about the bodies that were being born . and it born into. and why is it happening now? does it not imply a strong level of indoctrination? and where does that does start in that start? does it not start in the education system? but i'm going to go back now to our top story which that story of the day, which is that civil servants could go on strike if they are told to implement government's implement the government's rwanda i'm very pleased rwanda plan. i'm very pleased to say the centre say the director of the centre of and economic of migration and economic prosperity mep steven prosperity and former mep steven wolf joins me now. stephen, thank much. civil

thank you very much. this civil service blob, i mean, frankly, would this somewhat of a coup would this be somewhat of a coup if decided to on strike if they decided to go on strike over a popular policy? it would be a coup for the— over a popular policy? it would be a coup for the blob- fig? it would be a coup for the blob and it wowtt— be a coup for the blob and it wowtt he— be a coup for the blob and it wowtt he e— be a coup for the blob and it would be a coup— be a coup for the blob and it would be a coup for those who wish— would be a coup for those who wish to— would be a coup for those who wish to oppose— would be a coup for those who wish to oppose anyone who has a semsihie— wish to oppose anyone who has a semsitte potiey— wish to oppose anyone who has a sensible policy that— wish to oppose anyone who has a sensible policy that wants to eomtrot— sensible policy that wants to control migration in the country.— control migration in the country. het— control migration in the country. but once interesting to me is— country. but once interesting to me is how— country. but once interesting to me is how they— country. but once interesting to me is how they can say that they-re— me is how they can say that they-re going— me is how they can say that they-re going to— me is how they can say that they're going to on strike. now emt— they're going to on strike. now emt going— they're going to on strike. now emt going to— they're going to on strike. now and going to take— they're going to on strike. now and going to take the civil service— and going to take the civil service without— and going to take the civil service without obeying some of the most— service without obeying some of the most basic— service without obeying some of the most basic rules which is thet— the most basic rules which is thet they— the most basic rules which is that they have— the most basic rules which is that they have to _ the most basic rules which is that they have to have a vote of all that they have to have a vote of ett the— that they have to have a vote of all the members— that they have to have a vote of all the members first. that wowit— all the members first. that wowtt he— all the members first. that would be something that i would be would be something that i would he teem— would be something that i would he teem to— would be something that i would be keen to see— would be something that i would be keen to see from those in the civi— be keen to see from those in the shit service— be keen to see from those in the civil service rather— be keen to see from those in the civil service rather than those who— civil service rather than those who — civil service rather than those who test— civil service rather than those who are just spouting out at the moment— who are just spouting out at the moment thet— who are just spouting out at the moment that they— who are just spouting out at the moment that they would oppose govemmemt— moment that they would oppose government policy. “tiii government policy. is there something sinister going on here? kind here? has there been some kind of lefty of our of woke lefty takeover of our institutions, civil service institutions, the civil service being well i think when you being one? well i think when you look at this and this has been a continual issue at the home office that small groups or maybe the large civil servants have been attacking home office policy. but we saw it recently

at policy. but we saw it recently et the— policy. but we saw it recently et the enemy— policy. but we saw it recently at the equality and- ii; but we saw it recently at the equality and human rights commission.— at the equality and human rights commission, where— at the equality and human rights commission, where we now know a group— commission, where we now know a group setting— commission, where we now know a group calling themselves the poten— group calling themselves the golden group,— group calling themselves the golden group, or the golden eoiteh— golden group, or the golden golden angels— golden group, or the golden golden angels ,_ golden group, or the golden golden angels , who decided to golden angels, who decided to etteet— golden angels, who decided to etteet the — golden angels, who decided to attack the ceo— golden angels, who decided to attack the ceo because they wemtet— attack the ceo because they wemtet to— attack the ceo because they wanted to have— attack the ceo because they wanted to have a more balanced out wanted to have a more balanced owt diversity— wanted to have a more balanced out diversity program. we see three— out diversity program. we see three things— out diversity program. we see three things against priti patel . swette— three things against priti patel , suella braverman and many eomservetive— , suella braverman and many conservative ministers from withh— conservative ministers from within the— conservative ministers from within the civil— conservative ministers from within the civil service and those— within the civil service and those attacking— within the civil service and those attacking us. so if those in the— those attacking us. so if those in the civi— those attacking us. so if those in the civil service want to be es egret— in the civil service want to be es egwet .— in the civil service want to be seen as equal , fair and just, seen as equal, fair and just, they— seen as equal, fair and just, they meet— seen as equal, fair and just, they meet to— seen as equal, fair and just, they need to root- seen as equal, fair and just, they need to root out those peopte— they need to root out those peopte withh— they need to root out those people within it— they need to root out those people within it who are ettemptimg— people within it who are attempting to bring down governments— attempting to bring down governments or deny government potiey. — governments or deny government potiey. stepheh— governments or deny government policy. stephen i'm— governments or deny government policy. 3 g policy. stephen i'm reading something out to you now. 80 albanian migrants have been sentenced to 130 years in jail in the first four months of this year alone . as the scale of the year alone. as the scale of the crime from the surge in crime wave from the surge in channel crossings can be revealed for the first time, i mean, this is just the reality , mean, this is just the reality, is it not? if we do not know who is it not? if we do not know who is coming over or we leave ourselves open to people who are frankly just taking the mickey

out of us, we end up less safe in this country. think in this country. and i think that those civil servants would do well to remember that, because they're all working because if they're all working from they've from home, i'm sure they've all got room. the majority got a spare room. the majority of and i think they'd get of them. and i think they'd get full this. full square behind this. rwanda plan pull a channel plan if we pull a channel migrant in there with them. well i would absolutely supporting i would be absolutely supporting you remember way you because i remember way back in january, patrick, and in january, patrick, you and i were the dangers were talking about the dangers of having uncontrolled migration from the channel and not being monitored and controlled at that time. and now we can see it in teet— time. and now we can see it in reet evitemee— time. and now we can see it in real evidence of— time. and now we can see it in real evidence of the— c and now we can see it in real evidence of the convictions thet— real evidence of the convictions thet ee— real evidence of the convictions thet going— real evidence of the convictions that are going on.— real evidence of the convictions that are going on. we also were ot— that are going on. we also were aware of our senior— that are going on. we also were aware of our senior spy agencies emt— aware of our senior spy agencies emt etso— aware of our senior spy agencies emt etso ow— aware of our senior spy agencies and also our policing agencies thet— and also our policing agencies thet wee— and also our policing agencies that were also— and also our policing agencies that were also saying they were teepty— that were also saying they were deeply troubled _ that were also saying they were deeply troubled by the rise of the albanian— deeply troubled by the rise of the albanian gangs in cocaine emt— the albanian gangs in cocaine emt im— the albanian gangs in cocaine and in marijuana— the albanian gangs in cocaine and in marijuana and in people trettietimg. — and in marijuana and in people trafficking. and— and in marijuana and in people trafficking. and we're now seeing— trafficking. and we're now seeing teet— trafficking. and we're now seeing real evidence of that. amt— seeing real evidence of that. amt whet— seeing real evidence of that. amt whet i— seeing real evidence of that. and what i would say to people who— and what i would say to people who oppose— and what i would say to people who oppose government policy to remove criminals— who oppose government policy to remove criminals is, remember, the tights— remove criminals is, remember, the flights that— remove criminals is, remember, the flights that they stopped test— the flights that they stopped test yeer— the flights that they stopped test yeer .— the flights that they stopped last year , which included those last year, which included those who—

last year, which included those who — last year, which included those who were charged— last year, which included those who were charged with serious ottemees— who were charged with serious ottemees ot— who were charged with serious offences of assault , rape and offences of assault, rape and meteri— offences of assault, rape and mwrert emt— offences of assault, rape and murder and manslaughter , and murder and manslaughter, and they— murder and manslaughter, and they evoet— murder and manslaughter, and they removed people off that piehe. — they removed people off that pteme. amt— they removed people off that plane. and some— they removed people off that plane. and some of them went on to commit— plane. and some of them went on to commit even— plane. and some of them went on to commit even more serious crimes. stephen,— to commit even more serious crimes. stephen, thank you . crimes. stephen, thank you. atweys— crimes. stephen, thank you. atweys e— crimes. stephen, thank you. always a pleasure. - crimes. stephen, thank you. always a pleasure. stephen wolff, director at the centre for migration economic for migration and economic prosperity , former quick prosperity, former mep. quick email claude. i'm a retired email from claude. i'm a retired civil servant, patrick and i will happily return serve the will happily return to serve the government implementing these government in implementing these policies. you policies. claude i think you need your shoes need to polish your shoes and get back around the civil service mark de—man gb views at gb dot com. moving on. gb news dot com. moving on. eamonn holmes has accused itv of a total cover up over the phillip schofield scandal . but phillip schofield scandal. but i'm asking how did holly willoughby not know what was going on? i'm patrick christys on gb britain's news

radio. . iwelcome testis.- i welcome back. testis.— . welcome back. in a radio. welcome back. in a few minutes, i will - welcome back. in a few minutes, iwitt tisewss— . welcome back. in a few minutes, i will discuss the— . welcome back. in a few minutes, i will discuss the albanian- i will discuss the albanian migremt— i will discuss the albanian migrant crime— i will discuss the albanian migrant crime wave that has swept— migrant crime wave that has swept the— migrant crime wave that has swept the country. i will swept the country. and i will totes— swept the country. and i will toews om—

swept the country. and i will focus on the— swept the country. and i will focus on the row— swept the country. and i will focus on the row over boris iohmsom-s— focus on the row over boris johnson's whatsapp controversy. showti— johnson's whatsapp controversy. should private _ johnson's whatsapp controversy. should private messages sent by a should private messages sent by e trime— should private messages sent by a prime minister— should private messages sent by a prime minister be made public? i've a prime minister be made public? he got— a prime minister be made public? he got e— a prime minister be made public? me got e smeety— a prime minister be made public? i've got a sneaky suspicion there— i've got a sneaky suspicion there is— i've got a sneaky suspicion there is something else going on hehimt— there is something else going on tempt—here- there is something else going on behind—here that- behind the scenes here that meets— behind the scenes here that meets-timi— behind the scenes here that needs kind cover behind the scenes here that needs-kindlcover but needs some kind of cover up. but the ihiiiip— needs some kind of cover up. but the phillip schofield scandal remotes— the phillip schofield scandal rumbles-today.- the phillip schofield scandal rumbles today. the current rumbles on today. the current presemtimg— rumbles on today. the current presenting line—up of this morning— presenting line—up of this morning-well- presenting line—up of this morning well as phillip morning as well as phillip himsett— morning as well as phillip himself-quit- morning as well as phillip himself quit channel himself who quit the channel test—eppeeret- himself who quit the channel last—appeared toi last week, have appeared to rwhhish— last week, have appeared to rubbish these— last week, have appeared to rubbish these that last week, have appeared to rubbish these _that a rubbish these claims that it's a toxic— rubbish these claims that it's a toxic piece— rubbish these claims that it's a toxic place .work_ rubbish these claims that it's a toxic place .work .- rubbish these claims that it's a toxic place work . it's after toxic place to work. it's after the— toxic place to work. it's after the-torme— toxic place to work. it's after the former resident the show's former resident toetor. — the show's former resident doctor, _singh- the show's former resident doctor, singh says the show's former resident- doctor,-singh says that doctor, dr. ranj sinin says that he doctor, dr. ranj singh says that he reiset— doctor, dr. ranj singh says that he raised concerns— doctor, dr. ranj singh says that he raised concerns about hwttyimg— he raised concerns about twttyimg emt— he raised concerns about bullying and discrimina ation two yeers— bullying and discrimina ation two yeers ego.— bullying and discrimina ation two years ago. well, our very own eamonn holmes and former eotteegwe— own eamonn holmes and former eotieegwe sett— own eamonn holmes and former colleague said-it— own eamonn holmes and former colleague said it was colleague said that it was ihitip— colleague said that it was philip himself— colleague said that it was philip himself who created an etmosphere— philip himself who created an atmosphere on— philip himself who created an atmosphere on the show where peopte— atmosphere on the show where peopte hetet— atmosphere on the show where people hated him— atmosphere on the show where people hated him . eamonn spoke people hated him. eamonn spoke exetwsivety— people hated him. eamonn spoke exetwsivety to— people hated him. eamonn spoke exclusively to dan— people hated him. eamonn spoke exclusively to dan wootton in a homhsheii— exclusively to dan wootton in a bombshell interview last night and bombshell interview last night emt oeitet— bombshell interview last night and called schofield a narcissist— and called schofield a narcissist in- and called schofield a narcissist in life. i have eiweys— narcissist in life. i have etweys het— narcissist in life. i have always had this belief that a lie unchallenged becomes the truth. — lie unchallenged becomes the truth. so— lie unchallenged becomes the truth. so although- lie unchallenged becomes the truth. so although i- lie unchallenged becomes the truth. so although i don't want to stand up to schofield constantly pointing out where he's lying, i feel i have to. is

he's lying, i feel i have to. is he delusional? does he imagine ? he delusional? does he imagine? and the or is he so detached from real life at this morning that he didn't realise what was going on? i often say this to ruth. i said maybe he believes all this stuff. maybe he did not see what went on. actually because there's something wrong with him. but he is the chief narcissist. he is a complete and utter dyed in the wool nana narcissist. everything is about him. well an itv spokesperson said the broadcaster can confirm when rumours of a relationship between phillip schofield and an employee of itv first began to circulate in early 2020. itv investigated both - ti. 3 " iiilflg 20:20 itv investigated both parties were questioned— investigated both parties were questioned and— investigated both parties were questioned and both categorically and repeatedly temet— categorically and repeatedly temiet the— categorically and repeatedly denied the rumours , as did denied the rumours, as did ihitip-s— denied the rumours, as did philip's then _ denied the rumours, as did philip's then agency ymu. in ettitiom— philip's then agency ymu. in ettitiom .— philip's then agency ymu. in addition , itv— philip's then agency ymu. in addition , itv spoke to a number addition, itv spoke to a number of addition, itv spoke to a number or peopte— addition, itv spoke to a number or peopte who— addition, itv spoke to a number of people who worked on this morning— of people who worked on this morning emt— of people who worked on this morning and were not provided with— morning and were not provided with emt— morning and were not provided with emt tit— morning and were not provided with and did not— morning and were not provided with and did not find any

evitehee— with and did not find any evidence of— with and did not find any evidence of a— with and did not find any evidence of a relationship heyomt— evidence of a relationship beyond hearsay and rumour. ihiiip-s— beyond hearsay and rumour. philip's statements on friday goes— philip's statements on friday goes om— philip's statements on friday goes on ehowt— philip's statements on friday goes on about this, doesn't it? iteveets— goes on about this, doesn't it? iteveeis thet— goes on about this, doesn't it? reveals that he— goes on about this, doesn't it? reveals that he lied to the peopte— reveals that he lied to the peopte et— reveals that he lied to the peopte et riv— reveals that he lied to the people at itv from senior management— people at itv from senior management to fellow presenters to ymw— management to fellow presenters to ymw to— management to fellow presenters to ymw to the— management to fellow presenters to ymu to the media and to others— to ymu to the media and to others ove— to ymu to the media and to others over this— to ymu to the media and to others over this relationship right— others over this relationship right .— others over this relationship right . there— others over this relationship right . there we— others over this relationship right . there we go. a little bit right. there we go. a little bit teter— right. there we go. a little bit teter oh— right. there we go. a little bit teter on im— right. there we go. a little bit later on in the— right. there we go. a little bit later on in the show, i'm going to he— later on in the show, i'm going to he trittimg— later on in the show, i'm going to be drilling down on what next for to be drilling down on what next tor hotty— to be drilling down on what next tor hotty. otey.— to be drilling down on what next for holly. okay. do— to be drilling down on what next for holly. okay. do we all find it eompiete— for holly. okay. do we all find it complete, believable and at tete— it complete, believable and at teee vette— it complete, believable and at face value and— it complete, believable and at face value and above board, the how— face value and above board, the tony—thew- face value and above board, the holly knew nothing holly willoughby knew nothing ehowt— holly willoughby knew nothing ehowt this. — holly willoughby knew nothing about this. had— holly willoughby knew nothing about this. had no idea of the reetity—she- reality, didn't know she was heimg— reality, didn't know she was being-emt— reality, didn't know she was being and therefore, being lied to, and therefore, preswmehty— being lied to, and therefore, presumably-her. being lied to, and therefore, presumably her slot being lied to, and therefore,- presumably-her slot on presumably can keep her slot on this-or— presumably can keep her slot on this-or is— presumably can keep her slot on this-or is there- presumably can keep her slot on this-or is there a- presumably can keep her slot on this or is there a wider this morning or is there a wider issue— this morning or is there a wider et— this morning or is there a wider et ptey— this morning or is there a wider issue at play here— this morning or is there a wider issue at play here and other heets— issue at play here and other heets meet— issue at play here and other heads need to— issue at play here and other heads need to roll? we hear a pot.— heads need to roll? we hear a tot. tom-t— heads need to roll? we hear a tot. tom-t we— heads need to roll? we hear a lot, don't we, about silence heimg— lot, don't we, about silence being violent— lot, don't we, about silence being violent that's usually tset— being violent that's usually wset im— being violent that's usually used in another— being violent that's usually used in another context. should thet— used in another context. should thet-here— used in another context. should thet-here to— used in another context. should that-here to the- used in another context. should that here to the reality that apply here to the reality of that apply here to the reality ot whet— that apply here to the reality of what really— that apply here to the reality of what really went on? but there-s— of what really went on? but there-s e— of what really went on? but there's a story— of what really went on? but there's a story doing the rounds totey— there's a story doing the rounds totey thet— there's a story doing the rounds totey thet i— there's a story doing the rounds today that i am— there's a story doing the rounds today that i am very keen to triti— today that i am very keen to triti town— today that i am very keen to drill down into— today that i am very keen to drill down into and it ties in to the— drill down into and it ties in to the civi— drill down into and it ties in to the civil service supposedly going— to the civil service supposedly goimg om— to the civil service supposedly going on strike— to the civil service supposedly going on strike over having to impiememt— going on strike over having to implement rwanda going on strike over having to implement-rwanda it implement the rwanda policy. it ties-eery— implement the rwanda policy. it ties-gary lineker,- implement the rwanda policy. it ties gary lineker, doesn't ties in to gary lineker, doesn't it, ties in to gary lineker, doesn't itt-up_ ties in to gary lineker, doesn't it-wp ehowt— ties in to gary lineker, doesn't it,-up about mass- it, piping up about mass migretioh— it, piping up about mass

migration indeed what's migration and indeed what's going— migration and indeed what's going-im— migration and indeed what's goimglih the— migration and indeed what's going in the channel the going on in the channel and the story— going on in the channel and the story tesieeity— going on in the channel and the story basically-this- going on in the channel and the story basically this the 80 story basically is this the 80 aihemiem— story basically is this the 80 albanian migrants were jailed in the tirst— albanian migrants were jailed in the first four— albanian migrants were jailed in the first four months of this yeer— the first four months of this yeer etome— the first four months of this year alone for— the first four months of this year alone for a— the first four months of this year alone for a total of around too— year alone for a total of around too yeers— year alone for a total of around too yeers tor— year alone for a total of around too yeers tor e— year alone for a total of around 130 years for a variety of titteremt— 130 years for a variety of different offences. i will ask why— different offences. i will ask why tit— different offences. i will ask why tit we— different offences. i will ask why did we let— different offences. i will ask why did we let so many dangerous peopte— why did we let so many dangerous peopte into— why did we let so many dangerous peopte into the— why did we let so many dangerous people into the uk— why did we let so many dangerous people into the uk ?_ why did we let so many dangerous people into the uk ? and we'll people into the uk? and we'll etso— people into the uk? and we'll etso toot— people into the uk? and we'll etso toot et— people into the uk? and we'll also look at whether boris iohhsom-s— also look at whether boris johnson's whatsapp messages showti— johnson's whatsapp messages showit he— johnson's whatsapp messages should be given— johnson's whatsapp messages should be given to the covid 19 imgwiry— should be given to the covid 19 imgwiry. i-ve— should be given to the covid 19 imgwiry. me got— should be given to the covid 19 imgwiry. me got e— should be given to the covid 19 inquiry. i've got a sneaky swspieiom— inquiry. i've got a sneaky suspicion there is more than meets— suspicion there is more than meets the— suspicion there is more than meets the eye— suspicion there is more than meets the eye here. are there other— meets the eye here. are there other peopte.— meets the eye here. are there other people, people other than ports— other people, people other than boris johnson— other people, people other than boris johnson who— other people, people other than boris johnson who are very worried— boris johnson who are very worried about— boris johnson who are very worried about what their whetsrtpp— worried about what their whatsapp messages might reveal ehowt— whatsapp messages might reveal about themselves— whatsapp messages might reveal about themselves and what that might— about themselves and what that might meem— about themselves and what that might et— about themselves and what that might mean at the next general eieetiom— might mean at the next general election? but— might mean at the next general election? but first,— might mean at the next general election? but first, it's your retest— election? but first, it's your tetest mews— election? but first, it's your latest news headlines with our time—.— latest news headlines with our rime—. it— latest news headlines with our rime—. it is- latest news headlines with our anne_. it is 332. l latest news headlines with our. anne_. it is 332. i'm anne armstrong. it is 332. i'm heret— anne armstrong. it is 332. i'm karen armstrong— anne armstrong. it is 332. i'm karen armstrong in— anne armstrong. it is 332. i'm karen armstrong in the gb newsroom. well, as you've been hearing, downing street has rejected claims of a cover up as the covid 19 inquiry extended the covid 19 inquiry extended the deadline for the government

to hand over to boris johnson's unredacted whatsapp messages . unredacted whatsapp messages. the cabinet office now has until thursday to turn over the evidence . officials say they do evidence. officials say they do not possess all the documents demanded , having previously demanded, having previously argued the material was irrelevant. labour's deputy leader angela rayner says the delaying tactics show this is a government with much to hide . government with much to hide. but the prime minister has defended their approach . the defended their approach. the government's handed 333 ” f the government's handed over tens emt— government's handed over tens emt tens— government's handed over tens emt tems ot— government's handed over tens and tens of thousands of documents— and tens of thousands of documents in— and tens of thousands of documents in a spirit of candour emt— documents in a spirit of candour and transparency— documents in a spirit of candour and transparency because it is importemt— and transparency because it is importemt thet— and transparency because it is important that we learn the tessoms— important that we learn the tessoms ot— important that we learn the lessons of covid with regard to the pertiewter— lessons of covid with regard to the particular question at the moment— the particular question at the moment, we're— the particular question at the moment, we're carefully eomsiterimg— moment, we're carefully considering next steps, but the government— considering next steps, but the government is— considering next steps, but the government is confident in its position. — government is confident in its position. eamonn— government is confident in its position. i" position. eamonn holmes has alleged there was a total cover up of phillip schofield affair with a much younger male colleague at itv's this morning . schofield quit the show on friday and was dropped by his agency after admitting to an unwise but not illegal affair in a gb news exclusive, the former

this morning host claims executives at itv knew about the affair and covered it up to protect philip holly willoughby and the brand. i didn't. i didn't know anything. - didn't know anything. i heard some rumours.— didn't know anything. i heard some rumours. where were you some rumours. where were you going— some rumours. where were you going to— some rumours. where were you going to go— some rumours. where were you going to go to— some rumours. where were you going to go to with these rumours? who- going to go to with these rumours? who you know, everyone was rumours? who you know, everyone teem— rumours? who you know, everyone teem ihiiip— rumours? who you know, everyone was team philip and— rumours? who you know, everyone was team philip and holly and they— was team philip and holly and they wee— was team philip and holly and they were there _ was team philip and holly and they were there together. they were seen together. they were the treme— were seen together. they were the hremt .— were seen together. they were the brand . and.— were seen together. they were the brand . and. and itv the brand. and. and itv confirmed— the brand. and. and itv confirmed that a statement eeriier— confirmed that a statement eertier. — confirmed that a statement eertier. it— confirmed that a statement earlier. c g: confirmed that a statement- earlier. it investigated rumours of a relationship between schofield and a fellow employee and that both parties category and that both parties category and repeatedly denied the rumours , as did schofield's rumours, as did schofield's agent at the time . you can watch agent at the time. you can watch the full interview on dan wootton tonight from 9:00 and more on all of our stories on our website. gb news .com . our website. gb news .com. direct boolean sponsors the finance report on gb news news

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been convicted of a wide range of serious crimes.— been convicted of a wide range of serious crimes. strap yowrseives— of serious crimes. strap yourselves in.- of serious crimes. strap yourselves in. murder rape, tireerms— yourselves in. murder rape, firearms offences and last year them— firearms offences and last year more than 800— firearms offences and last year more than 800 albanian criminals teportet— more than 800 albanian criminals were deported back— more than 800 albanian criminals were deported back to the country— were deported back to the country .— were deported back to the country . amt— were deported back to the country . and according to country. and according to reports.— country. and according to reports, some— country. and according to reports, some of these people came across the _ reports, some of these people came across the channel. joining me now is richard— came across the channel. joining me now is richard tice, who is the— me now is richard tice, who is the teeter— me now is richard tice, who is the teeter ot— me now is richard tice, who is the leader of reform uk. richard a the leader of reform uk. richard e tot— the leader of reform uk. richard e tot tor— the leader of reform uk. richard e tot tor es— the leader of reform uk. richard e tot tor us to— the leader of reform uk. richard a lot for us to get— the leader of reform uk. richard a lot for us to get our teeth stutt— a lot for us to get our teeth stuck into — a lot for us to get our teeth stuck into here,— a lot for us to get our teeth stuck into here, but first and toremost— stuck into here, but first and foremost, how— stuck into here, but first and foremost, how much more evidence do foremost, how much more evidence to we— foremost, how much more evidence to we meet— foremost, how much more evidence to we meet thet— foremost, how much more evidence do we need that our— foremost, how much more evidence do we need that our current immigretiom— do we need that our current immigration policy, both legal and immigration policy, both legal emt-.— immigration policy, both legal eht-. is— immigration policy, both legal eht-. is putting- immigration policy, both legal and , is putting lives at and illegal, is putting lives at risk— and illegal, is putting lives at risk-britain— and illegal, is putting lives at risk-britain ? _ and illegal, is putting lives at risk-britain ? we- and illegal, is putting lives at risk britain ? �*tv�*ti 213i" c and illegal, is putting lives at risk britain ? �*tv�*ti 3 i c 3 risk in britain? we don't need any evidence. patrick. i'm any more evidence. patrick. i'm the who blew the story, the bloke who blew the story, blew the whistle on this albanian crime wave . the vast albanian crime wave. the vast numbers coming across in august last year, no one wanted to talk about it or admit it. albania is about it or admit it. albania is a safe nato country, i said. then these were foot soldiers for violent criminal gangs. then these were foot soldiers for violent criminal gangs . and for violent criminal gangs. and here is the evidence. and the first rule of government is to protect the safety of british citizens. we now have the evidence is that, in fact, the national crime agency has said a

significant number, i.e. over half , are significant number, i.e. over half, are involved in serious criminal activity . motty you've criminal activity. motty you've read out the horrific list of crimes this is a national security threat . no ifs, no buts security threat. no ifs, no buts . article nine of the un 51 convention makes it absolutely clear we have the right to declare it a national security threat. that's what this is. this has to stop . and it only this has to stop. and it only stops when the british border force and the royal navy are told you pick everybody up , told you pick everybody up, every single one, and you say safely take them back to france. i think people will go absolutely nuts at these outrageous figures. so what would declaring a national security threat, essentially a national emergency, which is what it is people british people are dying and being raped and slaughter ordered by these albanian violent criminals. it's an utter outrage . i'm steaming an utter outrage. i'm steaming mad. millions of people up and down the country are fury. this.

it's not good enough. the prime minister could do this today. he won't. he's weak. he's feeble , won't. he's weak. he's feeble, he's cowardly, and it's totally unacceptable . what would it mean unacceptable. what would it mean if unacceptable. what would it mean it he— unacceptable. what would it mean it he tit— unacceptable. what would it mean it he tit ite— unacceptable. what would it mean if he did it? what— unacceptable. what would it mean if he did it? what would- c. ” what would it mean if he did it? what would change? whet— if he did it? what would change? whet wetti— if he did it? what would change? what would change— if he did it? what would change? what would change then - if he did it? what would change? what would change then is- if he did it? what would change? what would change then is that we could do what the australians did, which you declare that national threat and you national security threat and you then we sending everyone then say we are sending everyone obe we're entitled do obe back. we're entitled to do that under law. you that under existing law. you pick them up, you put them in the border force, you take them back dunkirk, you take back to dunkirk, you take them back to dunkirk, you take them back calais, and then we say back to calais, and then we say to yes , we'll jointly to france, yes, we'll jointly process your but process them on your soil, but we are letting them come we are not letting them come over halfway line. instead, over that halfway line. instead, we've got the farcical situation where our authorities , our civil where our authorities, our civil servants, our commanders are saying, oh no, let's welcome them, let's make it a taxi service . if the criminals want service. if the criminals want to demand to be picked up by the un border force, they can be. this is dangerous. it is a security threat to decent, law abiding, taxpaying people in this country who've had enough . this country who've had enough. you know what i think is really erimimet— you know what i think is really criminal,-the- you know what i think is really criminal,-the fact- you know what i think is really criminal, the fact that criminal, which is the fact that they-re — criminal, which is the fact that now they're _well, - criminal, which is the fact that now they're well, the now they're saying, well, the heme— now they're saying, well, the mte ot—

now they're saying, well, the number of albanians coming the— number of albanians coming across the channel is massively troppeet— across the channel is massively troppetlemt— across the channel is massively dropped. and we're deporting dropped. oh, and we're deporting a dropped. oh, and we're deporting etew— dropped. oh, and we're deporting etew hemtret— dropped. oh, and we're deporting a few hundred here— dropped. oh, and we're deporting a few hundred here and there . we a few hundred here and there. we let a few hundred here and there. we tet the— a few hundred here and there. we let the problem _ a few hundred here and there. we let the problem in.— a few hundred here and there. we let the problem in. we let the prottem— let the problem in. we let the prottem im— let the problem in. we let the problem in. there's no need for toets— problem in. there's no need for toets moe— problem in. there's no need for loads more of— problem in. there's no need for loads more of them to come across-because- loads more of them to come across because we already across now because we already heve— across now because we already hevelmemy— across now because we already hevelmemy gemgs- across now because we already hevelmemy gemgs .- across now because we already have many gangs , actors have so many gangs, actors hove— have so many gangs, actors who've-over here. have so many gangs, actors who've over here and have so many gangs, actors- who've-over here and we who've moved over here and we are who've moved over here and we pteyimg— who've moved over here and we pteyimg eeteh— who've moved over here and we are playing catch up. but in the meetime— are playing catch up. but in the meetime im— are playing catch up. but in the meantime, i'm concerned that peopte—tie. - meantime, i'm concerned that. people—die. people people are going to die. people are people are going to die. people tying.— people are going to die. people are dying. here's evidence are dying. here's the evidence acas people being raped, acas people are being raped, slaughtered , uttered the slaughtered, uttered on the streets this country. and we streets of this country. and we know the drug dealing. they're making hundreds of millions of cash, the money laundering, the unused barber shops appearing all over the country, the candy shops. all over the country, the candy shops . this is going on under shops. this is going on under the authority . who knows? i've the authority. who knows? i've highlighted it. the authority. who knows? i've highlighted it . others have. the highlighted it. others have. the authorities . they won't authorities know it. they won't do about it. and the do anything about it. and the other big do anything about it. and the other tig story— do anything about it. and the other big story which- 3tit g c and the other big story which relates to this— other big story which relates to this totey— other big story which relates to this today about— other big story which relates to this today about supposedly the home— this today about supposedly the home price— this today about supposedly the home office civil— this today about supposedly the home office civil servants eomsiterimg— home office civil servants considering strike action if they— considering strike action if they ee— considering strike action if they are made— considering strike action if they are made to implement the itwemte— they are made to implement the itwemte potiey— they are made to implement the itwemte potiey .— they are made to implement the rwanda policy. is— they are made to implement the rwanda policy. is that some kind of rwanda policy. is that some kind ot ttot— rwanda policy. is that some kind ot ttot eoepe — rwanda policy. is that some kind of blob coup? it— rwanda policy. is that some kind of blob coup? it is— rwanda policy. is that some kind of blob coup? it is a- rwanda policy. is that some kind of blob coup? c titit.

of blob coup? it is a blob coup. and if i was running the place , and if i was running the place, i would actually say, do you know what folks? you go on strike, you're all in breach of contract, you're fired . this is contract, you're fired. this is elected government policy. you're all fired. we'll bring in a whole bunch of people who believe policy , who will believe in the policy, who will enact who get it done. enact it, who will get it done. i tell you what, if i was in charge, i could bring in 50 people and we would get this sorted. we'd get it cleaned up, we'd get it done, and dusted. and most importantly of all, the british people would be protected kept safe protected and would be kept safe . okay, why isn't rishi sunak test— . okay, why isn't rishi sunak test-whet— . okay, why isn't rishi sunak just-what you're- okay, why isn't rishi sunak just what you're saying? just doing what you're saying? teese— just doing what you're saying? teese — just doing what you're saying? because cause— just doing what you're saying? because cause he's weak. he doesn't understand it. it doesn't understand it. it doesn't affect his life. he's a coward, and he's in hock . coward, and he's in hock. frankly, he's scared of the blob , and he's in hock to the social democrats that have taken over the conservative party . can i the conservative party. can i just ask you a can i just ask you a question? another torts— just ask you a question? another toris retetet— just ask you a question? another boris related question. i hope you— boris related question. i hope yoe tom-t— boris related question. i hope you don't mind— boris related question. i hope you don't mind me asking this, reetiy— you don't mind me asking this, reetty. tet— you don't mind me asking this, reetty. tet its— you don't mind me asking this, really, but it's in— you don't mind me asking this, really, but it's in relation of course, to the— really, but it's in relation of course, to the whatsapp messages that course, to the whatsapp messages thet—or- course, to the whatsapp messages thet—or the - that boris is apparently or the cetimet— that boris is apparently or the cetimet-or— that boris is apparently or the cabinet or whoever is cabinet office or whoever is gette— cabinet office or whoever is quite difficult— cabinet office or whoever is quite difficult these quite difficult to tell these teys— quite difficult to tell these

days is apparently unwilling to heme— days is apparently unwilling to heme-heve— days is apparently unwilling to heme-heve my- days is apparently unwilling to hand have my suspicions hand over. i have my suspicions with— hand over. i have my suspicions with thet— hand over. i have my suspicions with that-that— hand over. i have my suspicions with that-that-be- hand over. i have my suspicions with that that be less with that that that may be less of with that that that may be less ot e— with that that that may be less ot e torts— with that that that may be less of a boris issue— with that that that may be less of a boris issue and more about whet— of a boris issue and more about whet some— of a boris issue and more about whet ot— of a boris issue and more about what some of those— of a boris issue and more about what some of those messages may hightight— what some of those messages may hightight etoet— what some of those messages may highlight about some other peopte.— highlight about some other people, these people, because supposedly these are people, because supposedly these ere-tetweem— people, because supposedly these are-between boris- are messages between boris rohmsom— are messages between boris iohmsom emt— are messages between boris johnson and 40— are messages between boris johnson and 40 people, including our johnson and 40 people, including oer—minister.- our current prime minister, itishi— our current prime minister, rishi sunak.— our current prime minister, rishi sunak. what's your take on its — rishi sunak. what's your take on its teeese— rishi sunak. what's your take on its teeese i— rishi sunak. what's your take on it? because i know— rishi sunak. what's your take on it? i f rishi sunak. what's your take on it? 3 f it? because i know exactly what the take is, because, as you know, my other half is about race, right? basically he she exposed whatsapp messages. exposed the whatsapp messages. yes, has done this country yes, she has done this country a major service . the chair major public service. the chair of the inquiry has used that has now got a backbone in thanks to the rod of those whatsapp messages. supposedly she's been given them by matt hancock. let's wait and see. where's the month of march? the matt hancock hid . i think they're all hid. i think they're all terrified. they've all got something hide. you know something to hide. do you know what whole of this inquiry what the whole of this inquiry could short. we could what the whole of this inquiry coul(hundredshort. we could what the whole of this inquiry coul(hundreds oft. we could what the whole of this inquiry coul(hundreds of millionsild what the whole of this inquiry coul(hundreds of millions of save hundreds of millions of pounds. save hundreds of millions of pounds . years of the life of pounds. years of the life of this inquiry. just look the this inquiry. just look at the whatsapp but what whatsapp messages. but what you'll they will you'll learn, what they will reveal it was basically reveal is that it was basically government whatsapp. government by whatsapp. that's fine. crisis . you fine. there was a crisis. you can that, but just

can cope with that, but just give up the information. and again, i'm sorry, but if i was in charge, i'd get 30 decent people rattle through those whatsapp messages. you could say, worked well, say, right, this worked well, this well. this didn't work well. you've got learn lessons from got to learn some lessons from that done and dusted. that sort. id done and dusted. that's what did in sweden. that's what they did in sweden. they inquiry they finished their inquiry february 22. well, the february 20th, 22. well, the obvious things— february 20th, 22. well, the obvious things that- ”gt $20." $26? well, the obvious things that people might be obvious things that people might te eomeemet— obvious things that people might be concerned about, some kind of ep— be concerned about, some kind of ep i— be concerned about, some kind of cover up over, i suppose would be cover up over, i suppose would te etoet— cover up over, i suppose would be about-relating- cover up over, i suppose would be about relating to be about anything relating to the vaccines,— be about anything relating to the vaccines, anything related to government— the vaccines, anything related to government being given to government cash being given to government cash being given to-their— to government cash being given to-their mates- to government cash being given to-their mates or- to government cash being given to their mates or dare to some of their mates or dare i say,— to some of their mates or dare i say, even-messages- say, even some messages in retetiom— say, even some messages in retetiom to— say, even some messages in relation to bringing down boris thmsom— relation to bringing down boris johnson-there— relation to bringing down boris johnson..there a— relation to bringing down boris johnson. there a chance that johnson. is there a chance that those— johnson. is there a chance that those might— johnson. is there a chance that those might be— johnson. is there a chance that those might be some issues, do you— those might be some issues, do yoe thimt— those might be some issues, do yoe thimt emy— those might be some issues, do yoe thimt emy ot— those might be some issues, do you think any of those things eoett— you think any of those things eoett te— you think any of those things eoett te im— you think any of those things could be in there? ' 3 ”ti could be in there? and for sure, if doesn't want to if someone doesn't want to release, they've something release, they've got something to including, i suspect to hide, including, i suspect many civil many of the very senior civil servants caught servants who were caught woefully and the woefully lacking and the establishment and the leaders of the lacking . and i the nhs woefully lacking. and i suspect we would see the flip flopping and the fact that contrary to what we were told at the time that they were following the science, what we learnt just from hancock's

whatsapps was that actually many learnt just from hancock's withe apps was that actually many learnt just from hancock's withe judgementsit actually many learnt just from hancock's withe judgements were jally many learnt just from hancock's withe judgements were to ly many of the judgements were to protect their skins, protect protect their own skins, protect their and it was their own backsides, and it was based politics, not the based on the politics, not the scientific advice that they chose to listen to . that's why chose to listen to. that's why it's so important we get the lot andifs it's so important we get the lot and it's just not good enough for this inquiry to take a decade, which is what it's currently trend. you could do this so much quicker. just look at these messages. get the irony. patrick that you've got the government potentially suing the government potentially suing the inquiry that was set up by the inquiry that was set up by the government. this is what peopte— the government. this is what peopte timi— g this is what people find fascinating. is this a people find fascinating. is this e etessie— people find fascinating. is this a classic case— people find fascinating. is this a classic case of— people find fascinating. is this a classic case of the government going,— a classic case of the government going. right.— a classic case of the government going. right. tet-s— a classic case of the government going, right, let's buy ourselves— going, right, let's buy ourselves a- going, right, let's buy ourselves a bit of time. we're going— ourselves a bit of time. we're goimg to— ourselves a bit of time. we're goimg to heve— ourselves a bit of time. we're going to have an— ourselves a bit of time. we're going to have an inquiry and them— going to have an inquiry and then someone— going to have an inquiry and then someone goes, right, it's time— then someone goes, right, it's time-the— then someone goes, right, it's time-the inquiry.- then someone goes, right, it's time the inquiry. and they time for the inquiry. and they go ttip— time for the inquiry. and they go ttip het— time for the inquiry. and they go flip hat, what— time for the inquiry. and they go flip hat, what are we going to—teeeese- go flip hat, what are we going. to_because because to do now? but because because eeteetty—got- to do now? but because because eeteetty—got e- to do now? but because because actually—got a chairi to do now? but because because ac'thely_got a chairi to do now? but because because ac'the inquiry got a chair to do now? but because because ac'the inquiry that's got a chair to do now? but because because ac'the inquiry that's going chair to do now? but because because ac'the inquiry that's going toair of the inquiry that's going to do of the inquiry that's going to to the— of the inquiry that's going to to the hot — of the inquiry that's going to do the job. "rig ”ti 3 do the job. they're appointed to do, they might even do the job properly. might a good properly. they might do a good job. a sudden, a bunch of job. all of a sudden, a bunch of civil servants that are not doing job properly doing the job properly in a timely fashion are found timely fashion are being found out. so in the last eight minutes, have got from

minutes, what we have got from richard a desire to have richard tice is a desire to have a national emergency force going richard tice is a desire to have a itheinal emergency force going richard tice is a desire to have a ithe channelrgency force going richard tice is a desire to have a ithe channelrgency fpeopleing in the channel to stop people who killers drug dealers who are killers and drug dealers and rapists is potentially coming over. you would sack any eivit— coming over. you would sack any shit-who— coming over. you would sack any eivit-who go— coming over. you would sack any eivit-who go oh- coming over. you would sack any civil-who go on strike. coming over. you would sack any ci'they-who go on strike. titit" g you would sack any ci'they don't who go on strike titit" g you would sack any ci'they don't want go on strike titit" g you would sack any ci'they don't want to on strike titit" g you would sack any ci'they don't want to implement if they don't want to implement the-ptem. — if they don't want to implement the-ptem. .yoe- if they don't want to implementi the-plan. .you would the rwanda plan. and you would hire to— the rwanda plan. and you would hire to peopte— the rwanda plan. and you would hire 30 people to— the rwanda plan. and you would hire 30 people to just end this time— hire 30 people to just end this time-throegh- hire 30 people to just end this kind _through the- kind of rattle through the whetstpp— whatsapp messages, whatsapp message, sorted. message, get that sorted. yeah. vee— message, get that sorted. yeah. woe-esteetty— message, get that sorted. yeah. you-actually-good. you know, actually with good people, it's not that difficult to run business and frankly to to run a business and frankly to run a country. but you need good people. this country hasn't got good it and good people running it and that's in the mess that's why we're in the mess we're in. richard tice, thank you— we're in. richard tice, thank yoe very— we're in. richard tice, thank yoe very mesh.— ”ti " richard tice, thank you very much. that's the leader of you very much. that's the leader ot—yoer— you very much. that's the leader ot—yoer viewsl of reform uk. get your views eomimg—therel of reform uk. get your views. coming—there will coming in. no doubt there will be coming in. no doubt there will te-im— coming in. no doubt there will te-im thist— coming in. no doubt there will be-in thick and- coming in. no doubt there will be in thick and fast. gb be coming in thick and fast. gb views— be coming in thick and fast. gb views-wews— be coming in thick and fast. gb views. news .com. - be coming in thick and fast. gb views news .com. richard, views gb news .com. richard, tete— views gb news .com. richard, tete sere— views gb news .com. richard, take care now— views gb news .com. richard, take care now we've just been tettimg— take care now we've just been tettimg etoet— take care now we've just been talking about this, so i'm going to-e— talking about this, so i'm going to-e tetete— talking about this, so i'm going to a debate actually. yes. to hold a debate actually. yes. shoett— to hold a debate actually. yes. shoett-semt- to hold a debate actually. yes. should-sent by- to hold a debate actually. yes. should sent by boris should messages sent by boris johnson— johnson during the pandemic be given— johnson during the pandemic be given-cowo— johnson during the pandemic be given-covit it- johnson during the pandemic be given covid 19 inquiry given to the covid 19 inquiry for given to the covid 19 inquiry tor ett— given to the covid 19 inquiry for all those— given to the covid 19 inquiry for all those people with their heets—mow- for all those people with their. heads—now going, heads in their hands now going, eemt— heads in their hands now going, sent-to— heads in their hands now going, can't-to revisit- can't we bother to revisit toettowme— can't we bother to revisit lockdown? i— can't we bother to revisit lockdown? i think it's a boris johnson— lockdown? i think it's a boris johnson witchhunt. yeah. all right. — right. i get that. hold your horses— right. i get that. hold your horses-is— right. i get that. hold your horses. is important. okay. horses. this is important. okay. teese— horses. this is important. okay. teese this— horses. this is important. okay. because this smacks, i think, of whether— because this smacks, i think, of whether or— because this smacks, i think, of whether or not—

because this smacks, i think, of whether or not government is whether or not the government is tryimg — whether or not the government is tryimg-tite— whether or not the government is trying hide something else, trying to hide something else, whether— trying to hide something else, whether-mot— trying to hide something else, whether not people are whether or not people who are eerremtty— whether or not people who are currently government more currently in government are more worriet— worried than boris johnson about whet—these- worried than boris johnson about what these whatsapp what might be in these whatsapp messeges whet— what might be in these whatsapp messages, what might be reveetet— messages, what might be. revealed,_not revealed, and whether or not they-re— revealed, and whether or not they-re goimg— revealed, and whether or not they-re goimg to— revealed, and whether or not they're going to get a fair heerimg. — they're going to get a fair hearing. on hearing. i'm patrick christys on gb

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has to rwanda. but downing street hes retested— to rwanda. but downing street has rejected claims of a cover up has rejected claims of a cover ep es— has rejected claims of a cover ep es the— has rejected claims of a cover up as the cowo— has rejected claims of a cover up as the covid 19 inquiry extemtet— up as the covid 19 inquiry extended the— up as the covid 19 inquiry extended the deadline for the government— extended the deadline for the government to— extended the deadline for the government to hand over boris iohmsom-s— government to hand over boris johnson's unredacted whatsapp messeges emt— johnson's unredacted whatsapp messages and notebooks. as totey-s— messages and notebooks. as today's deadline— messages and notebooks. as today's deadline approached , the today's deadline approached, the cetimet— today's deadline approached, the cabinet office— today's deadline approached, the cabinet office was— today's deadline approached, the cabinet office was given until troo— cabinet office was given until htoo pm — cabinet office was given until htoo pm om— cabinet office was given until 4:00 pm on thursday to turn over the evitemee— 4:00 pm on thursday to turn over the evidence after— 4:00 pm on thursday to turn over the evidence after officials eteimet— the evidence after officials claimed that— the evidence after officials claimed that they do not possess all claimed that they do not possess ett ot— claimed that they do not possess ett ot the— claimed that they do not possess all of the documents demanded. the— all of the documents demanded. amt-tor— all of the documents demanded. amt-tor whet— all of the documents demanded. and _for what-worth- all of the documents demanded. and for what worth , and also, for what it's worth, thet— and also, for what it's worth, thet-ot— and also, for what it's worth, thet-or it— and also, for what it's worth, that-of it isn't- and also, for what it's worth, that of it isn't relevant, that a lot of it isn't relevant, which— that a lot of it isn't relevant, which i— that a lot of it isn't relevant, which i think— that a lot of it isn't relevant, which i think is— that a lot of it isn't relevant, which i think is important. but shoett— which i think is important. but should these— which i think is important. but should these whatsapp messages and should these whatsapp messages emt—eoett- and notebooks which could possess— and notebooks which could possess security , possess sensitive security, persomet— possess sensitive security, persomet emt— possess sensitive security, personal and completely unrelated— personal and completely unrelated details actually be mete— unrelated details actually be mete petites— unrelated details actually be made public? the reason i ask is be“..— made public? the reason i ask is because there's— made public? the reason i ask is because there's two— made public? the reason i ask is because there's two camps here. for because there's two camps here. tor the— because there's two camps here. tor the most— because there's two camps here. for the most part,— because there's two camps here. for the most part, i'm oversimplifying this, but there are oversimplifying this, but there ere-peopte— oversimplifying this, but there ere-peopte who— oversimplifying this, but there are people who just want all are the people who just want all the information— are the people who just want all the information out there and who— the information out there and who think— the information out there and who think that— the information out there and who think that was huge who think that there was a huge emoet— who think that there was a huge emoet ot— who think that there was a huge amount of scandals to be had in retetiom— amount of scandals to be had in relation.lockdowns_ amount of scandals to be had in relation lockdowns the relation to lockdowns and the science _vaccines- relation to lockdowns and the science vaccines and all science and the vaccines and all of science and the vaccines and all ot-reir— science and the vaccines and all outer-they.- science and the vaccines and all of-fair-okay. andi of this. fair enough. okay. and they— of this. fair enough. okay. and they wemt— of this. fair enough. okay. and they went-ot— of this. fair enough. okay. and they want-of-out- of this. fair enough. okay. and they want of out there. they want all of that out there. there — they want all of that out there. there-peopte- they want all of that out there. there - people who - they want all of that out there. there people who think there are also people who think thet— there are also people who think thet-is— there are also people who think thet-is em— there are also people who think that-is an epic— there are also people who think that is an epic kind of that there is an epic kind of with— that there is an epic kind of with hemt— that there is an epic kind of witch hunt and— that there is an epic kind of witch hunt and stitch up going on. witch hunt and stitch up going om-is— witch hunt and stitch up going om-is got— witch hunt and stitch up going on. is got politically on. that is got politically motivetet— on. that is got politically motivated undertones to it. and

so-tivite— motivated undertones to it. and so-tivite-attl so it does divide people. all this— so it does divide people. all this-me— so it does divide people. all this-me now- so it does divide people. all this-me now is- so it does divide people. all this me now is the this joining me now is the timer— this joining me now is the former conservative neil former conservative mp neil perish— former conservative mp neil parish-former- former conservative mp neill parish .former-mp parish and former labour mp temis—stetti denis macshane. great stuff, weit— denis macshane. great stuff, weit tit— denis macshane. great stuff, neil, i'll start— denis macshane. great stuff, neil, i'll start with you. why mote— neil, i'll start with you. why mote-the— neil, i'll start with you. why not?-the cabinet- neil, i'll start with you. why not? the cabinet office not? should the cabinet office be not? should the cabinet office teo-ve— not? should the cabinet office teo-ve every- not? should the cabinet office be over every single be handing over every single thing.— be handing over every single thing every— be handing over every single thing, every single diary entry, every— thing, every single diary entry, every simgte— thing, every single diary entry, every single whatsapp message emreteetete— every single whatsapp message unredacted? do— every single whatsapp message unredacted? do we need to know ? unredacted? do we need to know? you unredacted? do we need to know? voe mow.— unredacted? do we need to know? voe know i— unredacted? do we need to know? you know, i don't— unredacted? do we need to know? you know, i don't actually, i tom-t— you know, i don't actually, i tom-t thimt— you know, i don't actually, i don't think we— you know, i don't actually, i don't think we should. it; don't think we should. they shoetth-t— don't think we should. they shouldn't hand— don't think we should. they shouldn't hand it all over because i think government acts on, you know , we had a pandemic. on, you know, we had a pandemic. we had all sorts of things being deau we had all sorts of things being dealt with and a lot going on and a lot of messages were passing from from one minister to another, from boris to others. and i think , you know, others. and i think, you know, this idea that we have to see absolutely everything , it just i absolutely everything, it just i think it's just a huge media and westminster bubble . and i think westminster bubble. and i think a lot of the public say just just get on and govern. we don't actually just get on and govern. we don't eeteetty meet— just get on and govern. we don't actually need an— just get on and govern. we don't actually need an inquiry- 3ti it: 3 we don't actually need an inquiry to go into— actually need an inquiry to go imto every— actually need an inquiry to go into every depth. ' 3 ”ting into every depth. and surely there— into every depth. and surely there must be some things that can be allowed to be private. what are we doing? are we i mean

, we have never actually done this before in government is actually taking everything out and wash it and then is it clean and wash it and then is it clean and i think, you know, yes, there's problems there. i suspect. and yes, they need a lot of information. but do they need everything? no and is there a bit of a witch hunt going on? yes, i definitely think there is. icompletely yes, i definitely think there is. i completely see that there witt— is. i completely see that there witt te— is. i completely see that there will be .faith_ is. i completely see that there will be .faith that- i completely see that there will be faith that any single will be no faith that any single imo— will be no faith that any single tetet— will be no faith that any single minor detail wouldn't be leapt on minor detail wouldn't be leapt om ty— minor detail wouldn't be leapt om ty the— minor detail wouldn't be leapt om ty the vest— minor detail wouldn't be leapt on by the vast majority of the press— on by the vast majority of the press there. — on by the vast majority of the press there. and,— on by the vast majority of the press there. and, you know, they eoett — press there. and, you know, they eoett-teith— press there. and, you know, they could .faith that— press there. and, you know, they could faith that the civil could have faith that the civil service— could have faith that the civil service . maybe _ could have faith that the civil service maybe going to handle service is maybe going to handle this-accurately- this entirely accurately or whetever. — this entirely accurately or whatever. - all. this entirely accurately or whatever. _all that. whatever. i can get all of that. tet— whatever. i can get all of that. tet tents.— whatever. i can get all of that. but denis, clearly,— whatever. i can get all of that. but denis, clearly, clearly peopte— but denis, clearly, clearly peopte ee— but denis, clearly, clearly people are nervous and clearly there— people are nervous and clearly there is— people are nervous and clearly there is some— people are nervous and clearly there is some kind of stalling. amt— there is some kind of stalling. amt thet— there is some kind of stalling. and that would— there is some kind of stalling. and that would imply a cover up . thet-s— and that would imply a cover up . thet-s whet— and that would imply a cover up . that's what i— and that would imply a cover up . that's what i think- and that would imply a cover up . that's what i think the- and that would imply a cover up . that's what i think the whole country thinks is an astonishing decision by rishi sunak don't blame the blob. patrick. this is itishi— blame the blob. patrick. this is itishi temet— blame the blob. patrick. this is rishi sunak weakness- patrick. this is rishi sunak weakness again.

nepot— rishi sunak weakness again. zzopoo peopte.— rishi sunak weakness again. 226,700 people, 220- rishi sunak weakness again. 2267 "00 220 i700 000 226,700 people, 220 600,000 people died . died with covid 19 people died. died with covid 19 on their death certificate dang on their death certificate during the pandemic. we have an absolute not right . we have a absolute not right. we have a duty as a nation to explore every aspect of it. you and gb news other programs have questioned much of how covid 19 pandemic was handled . rightly pandemic was handled. rightly so, in my view , and i can't so, in my view, and i can't believe neil parish is a decent man is saying that we should back rishi sunak desire to cover this up and not put every every single document in front of the into the public domain. well, neil, come back to that.- it. 3 i well, neil, come back to that. do the petite— neil, come back to that. do the petite mot— neil, come back to that. do the public not have— neil, come back to that. do the public not have a— neil, come back to that. do the public not have a right to know if public not have a right to know it toettowms— public not have a right to know if lockdowns actually were known to te— if lockdowns actually were known to be relatively— if lockdowns actually were known to be relatively unaffected, if imteet— to be relatively unaffected, if indeed that's— to be relatively unaffected, if indeed that's what comes out or if indeed that's what comes out or it there— indeed that's what comes out or it there es— indeed that's what comes out or if there was an— indeed that's what comes out or if there was an issue with the vaccines or something along these— vaccines or something along these times.— vaccines or something along these lines, do— vaccines or something along these lines, do the public not heve— these lines, do the public not heve e— these lines, do the public not heve e right— these lines, do the public not have a right to— these lines, do the public not have a right to know this? it etteetet— have a right to know this? it affected lives.— have a right to know this? it affected lives. they're still paying— affected lives. they're still peyimg tor— affected lives. they're still paying for it _ affected lives. they're still paying for it. “gift" affected lives. they're still paying for it. “titi" i paying for it. yeah, i mean, what i would say to say to denis is all accept the huge is that we all accept the huge

amount was lost and amount of life that was lost and everybody is upset about that. so i, you know, i wouldn't i wouldn't back away from what he said at all. do said on that at all. but i do actually think there comes a moment you're actually in moment when you're actually in government have to make government to have to make decisions. do them very quickly all way you know, all the way through, you know, whether it's whether it was whether it's protecting you needed protecting ppe, you needed whatever it was, whether it was vaccines, all of these things whatever it was, whether it was vacctoes, all of these things whatever it was, whether it was vaccto be all of these things whatever it was, whether it was vaccto be dealt these things whatever it was, whether it was vaccto be dealt with. things whatever it was, whether it was vaccto be dealt with. and gs had to be dealt with. and actually some of them actually were well. were dealt with very well. others were problems others there were problems with and doubt, you and there was no doubt, you know, had very had great know, boris had very had great deal of problems with adhering to like the rest of to the rules like the rest of the population had. so you know, lots there. but do we lots of things there. but do we actually need to take absolutely everything? no, i don't. and i think, you know, what are we what are we achieving by in the end, if you're not careful, if we're not careful, we will actually destroy . boy, our way actually destroy. boy, our way of governing . and i think, you of governing. and i think, you know, denis, know , if labour know, denis, you know, if labour was in power, they wouldn't have done perfectly. and done everything perfectly. and i'm suggesting i'm not suggesting for one moment regime everything moment our regime did everything perfectly either. and i'd be the first to admit that. but i think

we've to careful that we we've got to be careful that we don't actually destroy the whole process. and you don't actually destroy the whole process . and you know why process. and denis, you know why woett— process. and denis, you know why woett torts— process. and denis, you know why would boris johnson— i and denis, you know why would boris johnson want to do emythimg— would boris johnson want to do emythimg these— would boris johnson want to do anything these days? he's been tregget— anything these days? he's been tregget throegh— anything these days? he's been dragged through the mud unfairly . so dragged through the mud unfairly . so im— dragged through the mud unfairly . so im memy— dragged through the mud unfairly . so in many people's book, he's teem— . so in many people's book, he's been hounded— . so in many people's book, he's been hounded by— . so in many people's book, he's been hounded by the media. he esmt— been hounded by the media. he esmt givem— been hounded by the media. he esmt givem e— been hounded by the media. he wasn't given a fair— been hounded by the media. he wasn't given a fair hearing at the— wasn't given a fair hearing at the time— wasn't given a fair hearing at the time .— wasn't given a fair hearing at the time . you— wasn't given a fair hearing at the time . you know, the civil the time. you know, the civil service— the time. you know, the civil service appeared— the time. you know, the civil service appeared to be pretty the time. you know, the civil servitagainstired to be pretty the time. you know, the civil servitagainst doing be pretty the time. you know, the civil servitagainst doing anythingi the time. you know, the civil servitagainst doing anything that dead against doing anything that the government— dead against doing anything that the government wants to the government wants them to do. at—it— the government wants them to do. tet—it reports- the government wants them to do. tet—it reports ere- the government wants them to do. at_|f reports are to. at the moment. if reports are to be at the moment. if reports are to te tetieveet— at the moment. if reports are to be believed, he's— at the moment. if reports are to be believed, he's already been heetet— be believed, he's already been heetet-the— be believed, he's already been hauled-the coals- be believed, he's already been hauled the coals by an hauled over the coals by an imgeiry— inquiry. he's seen what's heppemet— happened to dominic raab for gootmess— happened to dominic raab for goodness-mean,- happened to dominic raab for goodness mean, he should goodness sake. i mean, he should be goodness sake. i mean, he should te teepimg— goodness sake. i mean, he should be keeping whatsapp messages be keeping his whatsapp messages tirmty— be keeping his whatsapp messages time—postm- firmly in his own pocket, shoettm-t— firmly in his own pocket, shouldn't he? �*tv�*ticc firmly in his own pocket,- shouldn't he? well , he certainly shouldn't he? well, he certainly seems to have plenty of time to go over to las vegas and join the sort of strip joints there and make a huge amount of money, millions and millions. so what? chatting up millions and millions. so what? chettimg ep right— millions and millions. so what? chatting up right wing- c. 3 c. so what? chatting up right wing americans he woett— chatting up right wing americans he woett heve— chatting up right wing americans he would have still denis, tents.— he would have still denis, temis. test— he would have still denis, denis, just to— he would have still denis, denis, just to say no, denis, im— denis, just to say no, denis, i-m goimg— denis, just to say no, denis, i-m goimg to— denis, just to say no, denis, i'm going to push back on this teese— i'm going to push back on this teese he— i'm going to push back on this because he-still- i'm going to push back on this because he still prime because he would still be prime minister— because he would still be prime minister-this— because he would still be prime minister this country not minister of this country not doing— minister of this country not toimg-he— minister of this country not doing he hadn't been doing that if he hadn't been hoemtet— doing that if he hadn't been hounded _someonel doing that if he hadn't beeni hounded _someone if doing that if he hadn't been- hounded _someone if he hounded out. if someone if he gets absolutely, utterly hounded

out, well within out, then what? he's well within his to las vegas, his rights to go to las vegas, be one of the few people to come back from las vegas with more money than went money than he went with a parliamentary. we in parliamentary. we live in a thing— parliamentary. we live in a thimg eetiet— parliamentary. we live in a thing called a— irf”. ”gt we live in a thing called a parliamentary temoereey— thing called a parliamentary democracy. didn't hound thing called a parliamentary dem out? y. didn't hound thing called a parliamentary demout? i didn't hound thing called a parliamentary demout? i didn't. didn't hound thing called a parliamentary demout? i didn't. neilin't hound thing called a parliamentary demout? i didn't. neil didn'tund him out? i didn't. neil didn't it es— him out? i didn't. neil didn't it itishi— him out? i didn't. neil didn't it was rishi sunak sajid javid emt— it was rishi sunak sajid javid emet-the— it was rishi sunak sajid javid and .the-mps- it was rishi sunak sajid javid and the mps who said, and all the tory mps who said, this— and all the tory mps who said, this mem— and all the tory mps who said, this mow— and all the tory mps who said, this man now is— and all the tory mps who said, this man now is such a liar. we mow— this man now is such a liar. we mow-ett— this man now is such a liar. we tmow-ett etomg— this man now is such a liar. we know-all along he- this man now is such a liar. we know all along he can't know that all along he can't stey— know that all along he can't stey es— know that all along he can't stay as-minister- know that all along he can't stay as minister now look, stay as prime minister now look, the-.— stay as prime minister now look, the. this— stay as prime minister now look, the. this is— stay as prime minister now look, the-, this is the— stay as prime minister now look, the , this is the second the iraq, this is the second tiggest— the iraq, this is the second biggest inquiry. it's going on far biggest inquiry. it's going on tet-tong— biggest inquiry. it's going on tet-tong im— biggest inquiry. it's going on tet-tong in my- biggest inquiry. it's going on far long in my view. other far too long in my view. other oties— far too long in my view. other countries have— far too long in my view. other countries have completed their covit— countries have completed their covid inquiries,— countries have completed their covid inquiries, but this is the tiggest— covid inquiries, but this is the tiggest-simee— covid inquiries, but this is the biggest-since the- covid inquiries, but this is the biggest since the iraq war. biggest one since the iraq war. amt— biggest one since the iraq war. amt i— biggest one since the iraq war. amt i tom-t— biggest one since the iraq war. and i don't remember anybody seyimg— and i don't remember anybody seyimg thet— and i don't remember anybody seyimg thet amy— and i don't remember anybody saying that any document that tony— saying that any document that tomy tteir-s— saying that any document that tony blair's name was on it as a oversetiom— tony blair's name was on it as a conversation a minute a paper , conversation a minute a paper, whetever.— conversation a minute a paper, whatever, should— conversation a minute a paper, whatever, should be kept from thet— whatever, should be kept from thet imgeiry— whatever, should be kept from that inquiry, because the tesimess— that inquiry, because the business of— that inquiry, because the business of government needs to eomtimee— business of government needs to eomtimee .— business of government needs to eomtimee . we— business of government needs to continue . we need— business of government needs to continue . we need the truth . the continue. we need the truth. the metiom— continue. we need the truth. the metiom hes— continue. we need the truth. the nation has the _ continue. we need the truth. the nation has the right to the treth. — nation has the right to the treth. they.— nation has the right to the truth. okay. and it is quite oetregeoes— truth. okay. and it is quite outrageous that rishi sunak is protesting— outrageous that rishi sunak is now protecting boris johnson. i-ve— now protecting boris johnson. he got— now protecting boris johnson. he got to— now protecting boris johnson. he got to te— now protecting boris johnson. i've got to be very quick, very geish— i've got to be very quick, very geiet. weit— i've got to be very quick, very quick, neil, on— i've got to be very quick, very quick, neil, on this very quick itishi— quick, neil, on this very quick itishi temet— quick, neil, on this very quick rishi sunak is— quick, neil, on this very quick rishi sunak is it— quick, neil, on this very quick rishi sunak is it himars scared

teese— rishi sunak is it himars scared teese he-s— rishi sunak is it himars scared because he's already got these eeeeseitoms— because he's already got these accusations that _ because he's already got these accusations that he stabbed torts— accusations that he stabbed toris im— accusations that he stabbed toris im the— accusations that he stabbed boris in the back and good ghet— boris in the back and good griet. it— boris in the back and good grief, if some— boris in the back and good grief, if some whatsapp messages some-thet— grief, if some whatsapp messages some-thet peimt— grief, if some whatsapp messages come that paint him a bad come out that paint him in a bad tight.— come out that paint him in a bad tight-teeny— come out that paint him in a bad tightlreetty is— come out that paint him in a bad light, really is finished. light, he really is finished. i thirt— light, he really is finished. i think he— light, he really is finished. i think he may. _ light, he really is finished. i think he may. there- light, he really is finished. there may be think he may. there may be something— think he may. there may be something there. _ is”. there may be something there. who knows? "

patrick christys on gb news, britain's news .

channel good afternoon. it's 4 pm, it's patrick christys. it's gb news. here's what's on the menu this houn here's what's on the menu this hour. civil servants potentially going to strike to block the government's rwanda plan. is this a woke civil service coup? in other news, it's all hotting up a trans showdown in oxford. we will be going to the scene as kathleen stock, who basically just thinks that women are women is going to be running a gauntlet of hate , supposedly. gauntlet of hate, supposedly. we'll be talking about the latest news from the world of the trans mafia and also what's up, boris us? is there some kind of epic cover up going on here? because whatsapp messages unredacted acid diary entries, etcetera , from boris johnson

etcetera, from boris johnson dang etcetera, from boris johnson during the pandemic have not yet, as we understand it, being handed over to the inquiry. if i was boris johnson, i will be reluctant to do so given the witch hunt that's gone on so far. and we all knew it was happening. but now we have it. officially, 80 albanian criminals, some of whom came over the channel, have been sentenced of 130 sentenced to a total of 130 years in prison. in the four more months of this year. that, ladies and gentlemen, includes things like murder, rape and firearms offences . what on earth firearms offences. what on earth is going on patrick christys on . gb news. get your views coming in thick and fast. a proper action packed hour coming your way. your reaction to threats of a civil service strike to bring down the rwanda plan . it's down the rwanda plan. it's a popular plan despite what you might see on twitter, all the polls suggest it gb views and gb news .com. now, those are your headunes news .com. now, those are your headlines with bethany . patrick

headlines with bethany. patrick thank you. good afternoon. here's your latest headlines from the newsroom. at 4:01 downing street— from the newsroom. at 4:01 downing street is- at 4:01 downing street is rejecting eteims— downing street is rejecting eteims ot— downing street is rejecting eteims ot e— downing street is rejecting claims of a cover up as the covit— claims of a cover up as the covit it— claims of a cover up as the covm 19 inquiry- claims of a cover up as the covid 19 inquiry has extend the teettime— covid 19 inquiry has extend the teettime tor— covid 19 inquiry has extend the deadline for the— covid 19 inquiry has extend the deadline for the government to heme— deadline for the government to hemt ove— deadline for the government to hand over boris— deadline for the government to hand over boris johnson's unredacted— hand over boris johnson's unredacted whatsapp messages. the unredacted whatsapp messages. the cetimet— unredacted whatsapp messages. the cabinet office now has until therstey— the cabinet office now has until therstey to— the cabinet office now has until thursday to turn— the cabinet office now has until thursday to turn over the evitemee — thursday to turn over the evidence after— thursday to turn over the evidence after officials claimed they— evidence after officials claimed they tom-t— evidence after officials claimed they don't possess— evidence after officials claimed they don't possess all the toeememts— they don't possess all the documents demanded it previously ergeet— documents demanded it previously ergeet the— documents demanded it previously argued the material was irrelevant— argued the material was irrelevant .— argued the material was irrelevant . but labours deputy irrelevant. but labours deputy teeter— irrelevant. but labours deputy teeter amgete— irrelevant. but labours deputy leader angela rayner says the teteyimg — leader angela rayner says the delaying tactics— leader angela rayner says the delaying tactics show this government _ delaying tactics show this government has a lot to hide. tet— government has a lot to hide. tet the— government has a lot to hide. but the prime— government has a lot to hide. but the prime minister defended their— but the prime minister defended their epproeeh— but the prime minister defended their epproeeh . — but the prime minister defended their approach . c their approach. the government's handed over tens and tens of thousands of documents in a spirit of candour and transparency because it is important that we learn the lessons of covid with regard to the particular question, at the moment, we're carefully considering next steps, but the government is confident in its position. meanwhile all the prime minister will meet president joe biden in washington next week to discuss

trade, climate action and the war in ukraine. downing street seys— war in ukraine. downing street seys the— war in ukraine. downing street seys the tit— war in ukraine. downing street seys the tit is— war in ukraine. downing street says the uk is not— i downing street says the uk is not pursuing a reti— says the uk is not pursuing a tett tete— says the uk is not pursuing a full trade agreement with the us . temom— full trade agreement with the us . eamonn holmes— full trade agreement with the us . eamonn holmes has alleged there— . eamonn holmes has alleged there es— . eamonn holmes has alleged there e— . eamonn holmes has alleged there was a total— . eamonn holmes has alleged there was a total cover up of ihiiip— there was a total cover up of phillip schofield's affair , with phillip schofield's affair, with a phillip schofield's affair, with e mesh— phillip schofield's affair, with a much younger— phillip schofield's affair, with a much younger male colleague at itv-s— a much younger male colleague at we this— a much younger male colleague at itv's this morning— a much younger male colleague at itv's this morning schofield gett— itv's this morning schofield geit the— itv's this morning schofield quit the show— itv's this morning schofield quit the show on friday and was troppet— quit the show on friday and was troppet ty— quit the show on friday and was troppet ty his— quit the show on friday and was dropped by his agency after etmittimg— dropped by his agency after admitting to— dropped by his agency after admitting to an unwise but not itteget— admitting to an unwise but not illegal affair— admitting to an unwise but not illegal affair in— admitting to an unwise but not illegal affair in a— admitting to an unwise but not illegal affair in a gb news etesie— illegal affair in a gb news exclusive former this morning host— exclusive former this morning host temom— exclusive former this morning host eamonn holmes claimed eeetves— host eamonn holmes claimed executives at— host eamonn holmes claimed executives at itv— host eamonn holmes claimed executives at itv knew about the etteir— executives at itv knew about the etteir emt— executives at itv knew about the affair and covered— executives at itv knew about the affair and covered it up to protest— affair and covered it up to protect phillip.— affair and covered it up to protect phillip. holly willoughby and the brand. i titm-t. — willoughby and the brand. i titm-t. i— willoughby and the brand. i didn't. i didn't— willoughby and the brand. i didn't. i didn't know anything. i heard some rumours. where were you going to go to with these rumours? who do you know? everyone was team philip and holly and they were there together. they were seen together. they were seen together. they were the brand. well in a statement, itv confirmed it investigated rumours of a relationship

between schofield and a fellow employee and that both parties categorically and repeatedly denied rumours, as did schofield , his agent at the time. and denied rumours, as did schofield , his agent at the time . and you , his agent at the time. and you can watch the full— i d c and you can watch the full interview on tem— can watch the full interview on tem woottom— can watch the full interview on dan wootton tonight from 9 pm. the dan wootton tonight from 9 pm. the timer— dan wootton tonight from 9 pm. the former president of ukraine has the former president of ukraine hes tott— the former president of ukraine hes tott et— the former president of ukraine has told gb news— the former president of ukraine has told gb news there counter ottemsive— has told gb news there counter offensive against— has told gb news there counter offensive against russian forces witt— offensive against russian forces witt tegim— offensive against russian forces will begin within— offensive against russian forces will begin within days if not hows— will begin within days if not hoers ettei— will begin within days if not hours after yet— will begin within days if not hours after yet another attack on hours after yet another attack om tyiv— hours after yet another attack om tyiv .— hours after yet another attack on kyiv . ukrainian authorities on kyiv. ukrainian authorities say— on kyiv. ukrainian authorities sey moe— on kyiv. ukrainian authorities sey them— on kyiv. ukrainian authorities say more than 20 drones were imtereeptet— say more than 20 drones were imtereeptet .— say more than 20 drones were intercepted , but— say more than 20 drones were intercepted , but at least one intercepted, but at least one persom— intercepted, but at least one peso hes— intercepted, but at least one person has been— intercepted, but at least one person has been killed. it's the thirt— person has been killed. it's the thirt time— person has been killed. it's the third time russia's— person has been killed. it's the third time russia's struck the wtreimiem— third time russia's struck the ukrainian capital in 24 hours. amt— ukrainian capital in 24 hours. amt retro— ukrainian capital in 24 hours. and petro poroshenko says whethe— and petro poroshenko says ukraine will— and petro poroshenko says ukraine will hit back imminently . he— ukraine will hit back imminently . he woett— ukraine will hit back imminently . he would start— ukraine will hit back imminently . he would start if— ukraine will hit back imminently . he would start if not- ukraine will hit back imminently . he would start if not within hours, but definitely within days. hours, but definitely within days . but russia should know days. but russia should know that this is not a second world war. this is the modern war. and

russia should understand that ukraine can launch there. it's not a counter effect. this is a our offensive operation that should start any moment at any place. meanwhile, should start any moment at any place . meanwhile, a rare drone place. meanwhile, a rare drone etteet— place. meanwhile, a rare drone etteet im— place. meanwhile, a rare drone attack in moscow— place. meanwhile, a rare drone attack in moscow is— i meanwhile, a rare drone attack in moscow is damaged. severet— attack in moscow is damaged. several buildings and injured two peopte— several buildings and injured two peopte im— several buildings and injured two people in the russian eepitet— two people in the russian eepitet. the— two people in the russian capital. the kremlin claims it shot— capital. the kremlin claims it shot down— capital. the kremlin claims it shot down all— capital. the kremlin claims it shot down all eight drones and is teseritet— shot down all eight drones and is described it— shot down all eight drones and is described it as— shot down all eight drones and is described it as a terrorist strite. — is described it as a terrorist strike. president— is described it as a terrorist strike. president putin says the etteet— strike. president putin says the attack targeted— strike. president putin says the attack targeted civilian infrastructure. the foreign seeretery— infrastructure. the foreign seeretery is— infrastructure. the foreign secretary is holding talks in tstomie— secretary is holding talks in estonia ahead— secretary is holding talks in estonia ahead of an informal moto— estonia ahead of an informal witto meetimg— estonia ahead of an informal nato meeting in oslo. james cteverty— nato meeting in oslo. james cteverty hes— nato meeting in oslo. james cleverly has stressed the uk's teste— cleverly has stressed the uk's tesire tor— cleverly has stressed the uk's desire for close— cleverly has stressed the uk's desire for close cooperation on teropeem— desire for close cooperation on european security.— desire for close cooperation on european security. he will also speet— european security. he will also speet to— european security. he will also speak to figures— european security. he will also speak to figures from the eoemtry-s— speak to figures from the country's technology sector and visit— country's technology sector and visit e— country's technology sector and visit a school— country's technology sector and visit a school for— country's technology sector and visit a school for children of wtreimiem— visit a school for children of ukrainian refugees . as the prime ukrainian refugees. as the prime minister— ukrainian refugees. as the prime minister seys.— ukrainian refugees. as the prime minister says, plans to restrict the meeting— minister says, plans to restrict the marketing of— minister says, plans to restrict the marketing of vapes will prevent— the marketing of vapes will prevent what _ the marketing of vapes will prevent what he calls the unacceptable _ prevent what he calls the unacceptable targeting of young peopte.— unacceptable targeting of young people. ministers— unacceptable targeting of young

people. ministers say they'll etose— people. ministers say they'll etose e— people. ministers say they'll close a legal— people. ministers say they'll close a legal loophole allowing reteiters— close a legal loophole allowing reteiters to— close a legal loophole allowing retailers to give— close a legal loophole allowing retailers to give free samples to ehittrem— retailers to give free samples to children in— retailers to give free samples to children in england. they'll etso— to children in england. they'll also consider— to children in england. they'll also consider banning retailers setting— also consider banning retailers selling nicotine— also consider banning retailers selling nicotine free vapes to enter— selling nicotine free vapes to emter is— selling nicotine free vapes to under 18 seconds. while the tireetor— under 18 seconds. while the tireetor ot— under 18 seconds. while the director of the— under 18 seconds. while the director of the uk's largest e—eigerette— director of the uk's largest e—cigarette and- director of the uk's largest e—cigarette and vaping retailer, toeg— e—cigarette and vaping retailer, toeg wetter— e—cigarette and vaping retailer, toeg rietter .— e—cigarette and vaping retailer, doug mutter , says it's a welcome doug mutter, says it's a welcome step. — doug mutter, says it's a welcome step. tet— doug mutter, says it's a welcome step. tet toegh— doug mutter, says it's a welcome step. but tough action. and potieimg— step. but tough action. and potieimg is— step. but tough action. and policing is needed to back it up . we— policing is needed to back it up . we went— policing is needed to back it up . we want actually— policing is needed to back it up . we want actually to - policing is needed to back it up . we want actually to push further and ask for tough sanctions to follow up the statement where we bring in fines of up to £10,000 per instance because the fines are not happening. this loophole needs closed out and we need to stop these products being accessible to children and hospitality businesses are asking the government for more support to help deal with rising costs. pubs, support to help deal with rising costs . pubs, bars and costs. pubs, bars and restaurants- i pubs, bars and restaurants say their average titts— restaurants say their average titts heve— restaurants say their average bills have increased by 81. tight— bills have increased by 81. tight oet— bills have increased by 81. tight oet ot— bills have increased by 81. eight out of every ten establishments say they're being peshet— establishments say they're being peshet to— establishments say they're being pushed to breaking point . you're pushed to breaking point. you're up pushed to breaking point. you're ep to— pushed to breaking point. you're ep to tete— pushed to breaking point. you're ep to tete om— pushed to breaking point. you're up to date on gb— pushed to breaking point. you're up to date on gb news. now it's teet— up to date on gb news. now it's

test to— up to date on gb news. now it's test to .— back to. patrick ptey- back to. patrick otey .- back to. patrick okay , loads. back to. patrick- okay , loads. loads, back to. patrick— okay , loads. loads, loads coming okay, loads. loads, loads coming your way . okay. we're going to your way. okay. we're going to be talking about the albanian criminals who've made their way to this country who are now in prison. we're going be prison. we're going to be talking about whether not the talking about whether or not the civil actually civil service is actually actively going to block the rwanda is rwanda deal. what that means is that some form of coup, the bohs that some form of coup, the boris johnson messages, boris johnson whatsapp messages, the plot thickens there. we've got no idea why these aren't being through yet. question being sent through yet. question marks or of marks over whether or not, of course they should be. but this marks over whether or not, of coanothery should be. but this marks over whether or not, of coanother bigiould be. but this marks over whether or not, of coanother big storybe. but this marks over whether or not, of co another big story for but this marks over whether or not, of co another big story for us. this is another big story for us. okay. in relation to okay. and it's in relation to kathleen stock, who's a professor, an author who's been doing a lot of talking and discussion on causing, bizarrely, a lot of controversy around, well, transgender issues. she's due to do a talk today at oxford union , motty, today at oxford union, motty, that's going to be taking place within the hour. we're going to be going to oxford university to outside because shock, horror, surprise, surprise, mass

protests set to take place there . this is a freedom of speech issue . but i . this is a freedom of speech issue. but i just . this is a freedom of speech issue . but i just wanted to set issue. but i just wanted to set my stall out a bit on this because we're going be because we're going to be dipping and this issue dipping in and out of this issue throughout course of the throughout the course of the show. so it is not controversial to say that men can't be women. what controversial the what is controversial is the media institutions and corporations boycotting anyone who wants to keep women safe and wokeist with cheap wigs. primark dresses and adam's apple shouting abuse at women for wanting to talk. kathleen stock will have to walk the gauntlet of hatred today as she prepares to do a debate at oxford . and to do a debate at oxford. and she will hear shouts of terf and transphobe. you can see it coming a mile off, can't you? and it's at this point that it is worth reminding ourselves of what people kathleen stock what people like kathleen stock actually think . so this is actually think. so this is a quote i found online from her males with male genitalia. many are sexually attracted to females and they should not be in places where females undress

or sleep in a complete , or sleep in a complete, unrestricted way. i gladly and vocally assert the rights of trans people to live their lives freed from fear, violence , freed from fear, violence, harassment or any discrimination . often i think that discussing female rights is compatible with defending these trans rights. what's controversial about that? a load of very angry trans people who probably still live in their grandmothers basement tried to cancel j.k. rowling. they even wanted to boycott the latest harry potter game, which is utterly pathetic. again here is utterly pathetic. again here is a quote that i found online from jk rowling. i respect every trans person's right to live any way that feels authentic and comfortable to them. i would march with you if you were discriminated against on the bafis discriminated against on the basis of being trans and at the same time, my life has been shaped by being female. i do not believe it's hateful to say so . believe it's hateful to say so. none of this is transphobic . if none of this is transphobic. if i said to you that that dog over

there is actually a cat and you said, no, it's not, it's a dog. and i cut you out of my friend group. i called your boss to get you sacked. i followed you around the street shouting around in the street shouting abuse at you, told your partner to leave you sent you death threats constantly abused threats and constantly abused you you'd probably threats and constantly abused you i you'd probably threats and constantly abused you i a you'd probably threats and constantly abused you i a bitou'd probably threats and constantly abused you i a bit weird,'obably think i was a bit weird, wouldn't you ? yeah. so isn't wouldn't you? yeah. so isn't that very similar what's that very similar to what's happening right now? the only people who can stand up for women's rights in relation to the mafia these days are the trans mafia these days are people who are so wealthy they can't be cancelled , or people can't be cancelled, or people who are willing to pay the price of losing everything , or people of losing everything, or people who've stopped caring. i suppose thatis who've stopped caring. i suppose that is why so many people are forced into silence on this. but i am perfectly happy to die on this hill. why? well i'll actually leave it to kathleen stock to explain. i don't mind being woman's playing two on this. she said, you've got male rapists and female prisons . that rapists and female prisons. that causes lot of upset. you've causes a lot of upset. you've got children transitioning, doing things to their bodies that can't take back. that that they can't take back. that

causes upset to their parents. you've huge numbers of women you've got huge numbers of women unable to talk about based unable to talk about sex based rights workplaces rights in their workplaces because they feel stifled. that causes us upset. it really is as simple as that . well, that's simple as that. well, that's what i think i want to hear from you. email me, gb views at gb news .com. loads more on that story a little later on in the show, including we will be going to oxford to get a view from the ground as we expect there to be protest on both sides. but a return to our top story of the day, which is office staff day, which is home office staff could strike again if forced to implement rwanda and implement the rwanda deal and new boats bill. a union new small boats bill. a union official has said that there's no stomach amongst members to sit and accept measures sit back and accept measures they believe are unlawful. it would be the latest in a string of strikes by civil servants with out with 130,000 people walking out of 132 government departments last month over pay and conditions . but should civil conditions. but should civil servants obstruct government

policy? i am joined now by our deputy political editor, tom harwood. tom, a lot of taxpayers who pay for the wages of our civil service and who supports things like the rwanda plan and tougher border controls and have voted consistently for it now for at least a couple of generations , might be wondering generations, might be wondering what on earth is going . on. what on earth is going. on. yes, you'd be absolutely right. imteet— yes, you'd be absolutely right. imteet memy— yes, you'd be absolutely right. indeed many people in the teittimg— indeed many people in the building behind me are wondering whet— building behind me are wondering whet om— building behind me are wondering whet om eerth— building behind me are wondering what on earth is— building behind me are wondering what on earth is going on. hoeve it— what on earth is going on. however, it does seem that there is e— however, it does seem that there is e eomeertet— however, it does seem that there is a concerted group within the civi— is a concerted group within the shit service— is a concerted group within the civil service who've used their rote— civil service who've used their rote es— civil service who've used their role as more political than non—political— role as more political than non—political .— role as more political than non—political . this was the non—political. this was the view— non—political. this was the view, certainly— non—political. this was the view, certainly of the former tepety— view, certainly of the former tepety trime— view, certainly of the former deputy prime minister, dominic teet— deputy prime minister, dominic iteet. es— deputy prime minister, dominic iteet. es he— deputy prime minister, dominic raab, as he sat— deputy prime minister, dominic raab, as he sat down with our etivie— raab, as he sat down with our own olivia utley_ raab, as he sat down with our own olivia utley just a month or so ego— own olivia utley just a month or so ego .— own olivia utley just a month or so ego . amt— own olivia utley just a month or so ego . amt he— own olivia utley just a month or so ago . and he told us here on so ago. and he told us here on gb so ago. and he told us here on st wews— so ago. and he told us here on st wews thet— so ago. and he told us here on gb news that there are most eivit— gb news that there are most civil servants— gb news that there are most civil servants trying to do their— civil servants trying to do their tot— civil servants trying to do their job and— civil servants trying to do theirjob and are trying to do the— theirjob and are trying to do the right— theirjob and are trying to do the right thing.— theirjob and are trying to do the right thing. but there is a

groupe— the right thing. but there is a groep. em— the right thing. but there is a group, an organised group within the civi— group, an organised group within the civil service,— group, an organised group within the civil service, some might say,— the civil service, some might sey. who— the civil service, some might sey. who ee— the civil service, some might say, who are actively opposed to the work— say, who are actively opposed to the work ot— say, who are actively opposed to the work of the— say, who are actively opposed to the work of the government . and the work of the government. and eerteimty— the work of the government. and eerteimty we— the work of the government. and certainly we see— the work of the government. and certainly we see this in the teetership— certainly we see this in the leadership of— certainly we see this in the leadership of trade unions, not etweys— leadership of trade unions, not always represent— leadership of trade unions, not always represent lviv of their members, but— always represent lviv of their members, but very often very tervemtty— members, but very often very fervently opposed to the government. _ fervently opposed to the government. and what this trade emiom— government. and what this trade union official,— government. and what this trade union official, this— government. and what this trade union official, this organiser for union official, this organiser tot this— union official, this organiser for this civil— union official, this organiser for this civil service union has teem— for this civil service union has teem seyimg— for this civil service union has been saying today will frankly not been saying today will frankly mot setptise— been saying today will frankly not surprise as— been saying today will frankly not surprise as many of those who— not surprise as many of those who heve— not surprise as many of those who have been— not surprise as many of those who have been wading through the wort— who have been wading through the work ot— who have been wading through the work of government— who have been wading through the work of government over the last 5 work of government over the last t or— work of government over the last t or e— work of government over the last t or e yees— work of government over the last 5 or 6 years, seeing— work of government over the last 5 or 6 years, seeing roadblocks, ttemtty— 5 or 6 years, seeing roadblocks, ttemtty. teimg— 5 or 6 years, seeing roadblocks, frankly, being put— 5 or 6 years, seeing roadblocks, frankly, being put in their way by frankly, being put in their way ty etememts— frankly, being put in their way by elements of— frankly, being put in their way by elements of the civil service.— by elements of the civil service. now,- by elements of the civil service. now, of course , the service. now, of course, the civi— service. now, of course, the civil service _ service. now, of course, the civil service would turn around emt— civil service would turn around emt sey— civil service would turn around emt sey thet— civil service would turn around and say that they— civil service would turn around and say that they do get on and do and say that they do get on and to the— and say that they do get on and to the wort— and say that they do get on and do the work of— and say that they do get on and do the work of the— and say that they do get on and do the work of the government . do the work of the government. imteet.— do the work of the government. imteet. memy— do the work of the government. indeed, many people within the government— indeed, many people within the government have— indeed, many people within the government have said that some shit— government have said that some eivit setvemts— government have said that some civil servants are— government have said that some civil servants are absolutely temtestie— civil servants are absolutely fantastic, signed trade fantastic, have signed trade teets— fantastic, have signed trade teets with— fantastic, have signed trade deals with countries around the wome.— deals with countries around the worth heve— deals with countries around the world, have negotiated our exit trom— world, have negotiated our exit ttom the— world, have negotiated our exit from the european union, have tome— from the european union, have tome ett— from the european union, have tome ett ot— from the european union, have done all of these— from the european union, have done all of these things . and done all of these things. and memy— done all of these things. and memy peopte— done all of these things. and many people may say that's true.

however, certain— many people may say that's true. however, certain ,_ many people may say that's true. however, certain , only there are however, certain, only there are comsetvetive— however, certain, only there are conservative mps— however, certain, only there are conservative mps who believe thet— conservative mps who believe that elements— conservative mps who believe that elements within the civil service— that elements within the civil setviee emt— that elements within the civil setviee emt i— that elements within the civil service and i stress that etememts— service and i stress that elements, pockets within the civi— elements, pockets within the civil servants _ elements, pockets within the civil servants are— elements, pockets within the civil servants are actively working— civil servants are actively working against the government's egemte— working against the government's egemte . — working against the government's egemte . tes.— working against the government's agenda . yes, and— working against the government's agenda . yes, and i— working against the government's agenda . “titi: c working against the government's agenda. “titi: c agenda. yes, and i can't help but wonder, tom, whether or not all of this is actually really kind of within the civil service code. i mean , they, as far as code. i mean, they, as far as i can gather today, is saying we don't want to be implementing anything that's unlawful, but the high court has said that they are under planning is lawful. so i mean, who are they precisely. every lawful. so i mean, who are they precisely . every legal challenge precisely. every legal challenge to the— precisely. every legal challenge to the rwanda— precisely. every legal challenge to the rwanda deal— i every legal challenge to the rwanda deal has faced has not to the rwanda deal has faced has mot street— to the rwanda deal has faced has not struck down— to the rwanda deal has faced has not struck down the— to the rwanda deal has faced has not struck down the deal itself. whet— not struck down the deal itself. whet hes— not struck down the deal itself. what has stopped— not struck down the deal itself. what has stopped the planes ttyimg— what has stopped the planes ttyimg ee— what has stopped the planes flying are factors immaterial to the teet— flying are factors immaterial to the deal with— flying are factors immaterial to the deal with rwanda . they're the deal with rwanda. they're etoet— the deal with rwanda. they're etoet the— the deal with rwanda. they're about the individuals on board. in about the individuals on board. in test— about the individuals on board. in test .— about the individuals on board. in test . thet— about the individuals on board. in fact , that last— about the individuals on board. in fact , that last time that in fact, that last time that a pteme— in fact, that last time that a pteme es— in fact, that last time that a plane was actually on the tarmac teety— plane was actually on the tarmac teety to— plane was actually on the tarmac teety to go— plane was actually on the tarmac teety to go to— plane was actually on the tarmac ready to go to rwanda legally,

it some— ready to go to rwanda legally, it could have— ready to go to rwanda legally, it could have flown. it's just every— it could have flown. it's just every simgte— it could have flown. it's just every single individual on board thet— every single individual on board thet pteme— every single individual on board thet pteme het— every single individual on board that plane had a— every single individual on board that plane had a reason to be tetem— that plane had a reason to be tetem ott— that plane had a reason to be tetem or it— that plane had a reason to be taken off. it wasn't the fault of taken off. it wasn't the fault ot the — taken off. it wasn't the fault of the rwanda _ taken off. it wasn't the fault of the rwanda deal. it was those imtiviteet— of the rwanda deal. it was those individual last— of the rwanda deal. it was those individual last minute interventions, particularly from the tchit— interventions, particularly from the tort .— interventions, particularly from the echr . and— interventions, particularly from the echr . and so— interventions, particularly from the echr . and so it does raise the echr. and so it does raise an the echr. and so it does raise em eyettoe— the echr. and so it does raise an eyebrow. one— the echr. and so it does raise an eyebrow. one does raise an eyettow— an eyebrow. one does raise an eyettow et— an eyebrow. one does raise an eyettow et the— an eyebrow. one does raise an eyebrow at the suggestion that this is— eyebrow at the suggestion that this is somehow— eyebrow at the suggestion that this is somehow an unlawful or itteget— this is somehow an unlawful or itteget potiey— this is somehow an unlawful or itteget potiey .— this is somehow an unlawful or illegal policy , something that illegal policy, something that has illegal policy, something that hes pesset— illegal policy, something that has passed through the house of commons— has passed through the house of commoms emt— has passed through the house of commons and indeed the house of torts.— commons and indeed the house of lords, something— commons and indeed the house of lords, something that is british stetete— lords, something that is british stetete emt— lords, something that is british statute and that— lords, something that is british statute and that has not yet teem— statute and that has not yet teem street— statute and that has not yet been struck down by a single eoett. — been struck down by a single eoett. or— been struck down by a single court. of course,— been struck down by a single court. of course, high court court. of course, the high court is-highest— court. of course, the high court is-highest court- court. of course, the high court is-highest court in- court. of course, the high court is highest court in the is not the highest court in the teme— is not the highest court in the tent thimgs— is not the highest court in the land. things may— is not the highest court in the land. things may still go to the septeme— land. things may still go to the septeme eoet.— land. things may still go to the supreme court, but as things stemt— supreme court, but as things stemt. this— supreme court, but as things stand, this looks— supreme court, but as things stand, this looks like it is very— stand, this looks like it is very tewtet— stand, this looks like it is very lawful policy . very lawful policy. tom thank you.— very lawful policy. tom thank you, tom harwood there are deputy editor outside deputy political editor outside westminster . deputy political editor outside westminster. i think this is absolutely massive, this story because deemed to be because if it's deemed to be legal and it's voted through parliament and it has got public support, which again, i'll refer you polls on you to the opinion polls on this, shows that more this, which shows that more

people scheme people support the rwanda scheme than not support it. that's than do not support it. that's the latest round of polling that i find today i was i could find today when i was sitting here. and then if it goes all that and the goes through all of that and the civil service taxpayer funded and say, sorry, we're not implementing it, that is tantamount to some kind of soft coup, is it not? we cannot live in a country where government policy is dictated to by civil servants. now, sorry we won't do that. well, no one likes those people. but anyway, you get more on that story. we're going to be returning to that gb news .com on that story. we're going to be re'ouring to that gb news .com on that story. we're going to be re'our websitetat gb news .com on that story. we're going to be re'our website where news .com on that story. we're going to be re'our website where you'll com on that story. we're going to be re'our website where you'll ben is our website where you'll be able to find the best analysis and opinion. patrick root out the servants are the civil servants who are opposed and obstructing government policies and just sack the lot of them, says peter. i came up a peter. peter i came up with a policy my own earlier on. if policy of my own earlier on. if indeed that a lot of indeed it is true that a lot of civil servants are working civil servants are now working from home full time, then i imagine a lot of them might have spare and i would spare rooms and i would also imagine started imagine that if they started having some people who having to house some people who were across the channel, were coming across the channel, they would get behind the rwanda policy quickly. onto policy rather quickly. but onto another story us. you another big story for us. you

heard prattling on about heard me prattling on about it at hour. prime at the top of this hour. prime minister rishi sunak backing at the top of this hour. prime mfeministishisunak backing at the top of this hour. prime mfeminist academic backing at the top of this hour. prime mfeminist academic who acking at the top of this hour. prime mfeminist academic who hasig at the top of this hour. prime mfeminist academic who has been a feminist academic who has been targeted rights targeted by trans rights activists to speak at the oxford union today . professor kathleen union today. professor kathleen stock . herjob, was hounded stock quit. her job, was hounded out a better way of putting out as a better way of putting it lecturer at the it as a lecturer at the university of sussex in 2021, she was abused over her views . she was abused over her views. we are all over this story. i think it's central to freedom of speech and i think this is going to massive issue going to be a massive issue going forward. playing out in forward. we're playing out in schools and institutions for the next or so . it's a key next decade or so. it's a key battleground for people. gb news is national reporter. theo chikomba joins us live from oxford. theo thank you very much. we've heard a lot about potential protests. counter protests, what's going . on yes, protests, what's going. on yes, well, good afternoon to- grit g yes, well, good afternoon to you. so thtoeghoet— well, good afternoon to you. so throughout the _ well, good afternoon to you. so throughout the day, there have teem— throughout the day, there have been some speeches, but now there— been some speeches, but now there ee— been some speeches, but now there some— been some speeches, but now there are some people who are protesting— there are some people who are ptotestimg im— there are some people who are protesting in the— there are some people who are protesting in the heart of extort. — protesting in the heart of oxford. students members of the petite— oxford. students members of the petite emt— oxford. students members of the public and others— oxford. students members of the public and others who have ttevettet— public and others who have travelled from _ public and others who have travelled from far and beyond this— travelled from far and beyond this etee— travelled from far and beyond this .—

travelled from far and beyond this area . now,— travelled from far and beyond this area . now, what they're this area. now, what they're protesting— this area. now, what they're protesting about is the pettieetet— protesting about is the particular views that professor tethteem — particular views that professor kathleen stock— particular views that professor kathleen stock has not necessarily— kathleen stock has not necessarily de—platformed her. thet-s— necessarily de—platformed her. thet-s im— necessarily de—platformed her. thet-s imthe— necessarily de—platformed her. that's in the words of some of the— that's in the words of some of the stetemts— that's in the words of some of the students we've spoken to here— the students we've spoken to here totey— the students we've spoken to here today and— the students we've spoken to here today and over the last few hoes— here today and over the last few hoes memy— here today and over the last few hours, many people have been coming— hours, many people have been eomimg to— hours, many people have been coming to attend— hours, many people have been coming to attend this this ettetmoom— coming to attend this this afternoon, though , in less than afternoon, though, in less than an afternoon, though, in less than em hoet— afternoon, though, in less than an hour or so. she— afternoon, though, in less than an hour or so. she will be meeting— an hour or so. she will be meeting with— an hour or so. she will be meeting with those who manage imto — meeting with those who manage access into the— meeting with those who manage access into the union where no toett— access into the union where no toett she-tt— access into the union where no doubt she'll be— access into the union where no doubt she'll be asked about some of doubt she'll be asked about some ot those— doubt she'll be asked about some ot those things— doubt she'll be asked about some of those things which have been teemet— of those things which have been deemed controversial, particularly- deemed controversial, particularly when it comes to self—identifying— particularly when it comes to self—identifying station. and of course, some of— self—identifying station. and of course, some of those issues tegettimg— course, some of those issues regarding transphobia, which she temies— regarding transphobia, which she denies herself— regarding transphobia, which she denies herself earlier on, we spoke— denies herself earlier on, we spoke to— denies herself earlier on, we spoke to the— denies herself earlier on, we spoke to the president of oxford university-s— spoke to the president of oxford university's lgbtq plus society, and university's lgbtq plus society, emt this— university's lgbtq plus society, emt this is— university's lgbtq plus society, and this is what— university's lgbtq plus society, and this is what they had to sey.— and this is what they had to sey. att— and this is what they had to sey. tit tight.— and this is what they had to say. all right, brilliant. so test— say. all right, brilliant. so test teit— say. all right, brilliant. so test tett me— say. all right, brilliant. so just tell me why you're here totey.— just tell me why you're here totey. so— just tell me why you're here totey. so we— just tell me why you're here today. so we are— just tell me why you're here today. so we are here to eetettete— today. so we are here to celebrate trans- today. so we are here to celebrate trans people, to eetettete — celebrate trans people, to celebrate the _ celebrate trans people, to celebrate the joy and light titted— celebrate the joy and light filled humanity of trans people, ttems— filled humanity of trans people, ttems tives—

filled humanity of trans people, trans lives and— filled humanity of trans people, trans lives and trans power. �*tv�*ri trans lives and trans power. we went— trans lives and trans power. we went to— trans lives and trans power. we went to mete— trans lives and trans power. we want to make sure— trans lives and trans power. we want to make sure that- trans lives and trans power. we want to make sure that the trans community in oxford that we community in oxford know that we have back . we know that have their back. we know that when to when people come here to demonise them, incite fear demonise them, to incite fear and hate against them, know that there are who support there are people who support them them. we them and stand for them. we don't . kathleen don't oppose. kathleen stokes freedom speech. what we freedom of speech. what we oppose hateful views and oppose is the hateful views and the decision by the oxford union to them and how where do to amplify them and how where do we draw the line when, you know, there's people who perhaps have different views but come to have a conversation essentially , a conversation essentially, kathleen stock has full of freedom of speech and her views are everywhere. we're not under risk. look at the newspapers. look at parliament. it's everywhere. that's belief everywhere. that's not a belief that persecuted right that is being persecuted right now. what we do need now now. however what we do need now and what i think everyone at home is that what we home can accept is that what we needis home can accept is that what we need is civil conversation. we need is civil conversation. we need kindness and respect to each good each other and we need good faith. come to the faith. if you don't come to the debate in good faith, you can't really go anywhere. and i don't believe kathleen stock has that. she's just hateful. she's just hostile she does not hostile to us. she does not argue good faith . well, with

argue in good faith. well, with less than an hour to go, let's just show you what's around this square at the moment. hundreds of square at the moment. hundreds ot stetemts— square at the moment. hundreds of students, people— 3 hundreds of students, people who've come trom— of students, people who've come from different— of students, people who've come from different places across the uk from different places across the up to— from different places across the up to ome— from different places across the up to im— from different places across the uk to come in support of what they— uk to come in support of what they sey— uk to come in support of what they sey is— uk to come in support of what they sey is hot— uk to come in support of what they say is not something that shoett— they say is not something that shoett te— they say is not something that should be discussed at at the university— should be discussed at at the university talking about free speech. — university talking about free speech. tet— university talking about free speech, but also the impact they say speech, but also the impact they sey it— speech, but also the impact they sey it hes— speech, but also the impact they sey it hes om— speech, but also the impact they say it has on the— speech, but also the impact they say it has on the lgbt q plus eommemity— say it has on the lgbt q plus eommemity. so— say it has on the lgbt q plus community. so in— say it has on the lgbt q plus community. so in less than an toet— community. so in less than an hoet ot— community. so in less than an hour or so, a professor kathleen stoch— hour or so, a professor kathleen stoet witt— hour or so, a professor kathleen stoet witt te— hour or so, a professor kathleen stock will be speaking here. and a stock will be speaking here. and e tot— stock will be speaking here. and e tot ot— stock will be speaking here. and e tot ot these— stock will be speaking here. and a lot of these people will be heetimg— a lot of these people will be heetimg to— a lot of these people will be heading to the— a lot of these people will be heading to the union, which is test— heading to the union, which is test eoe— heading to the union, which is just around corner . just around the corner. theo, thett— just around the corner. theo, theht yoe— just around the corner. theo, theht yoe very— just around the corner. theo, thank you very much. this theo chikomba that who is our national reporter who will be keeping a very close eye on proceedings there as we await the arrival, of course, of kathleen stock and the fallout from from that. i have got a feeling that a clip of the head of the oxford lgbtq plus union

is about to go very viral on our twitter account, gb news. but there we go. anyway, should bohs there we go. anyway, should boris johnson's whatsapps be given to the covid 19 inquiry or should the former prime minister's private messages stay private? now, this might seem a bit like a yesterday's story. this might ring a load of bells. are we banging on about lockdown again? there's more to it than this. okay. because there was supposed to be handed at supposed to be handed in at 4:00, which is 20 minutes ago. supposedly. that's not happened. 4:00, which is 20 minutes ago. sup|deadline'hat's not happened. 4:00, which is 20 minutes ago. sup|deadline hass not happened. 4:00, which is 20 minutes ago. sup|deadline has been happened. 4:00, which is 20 minutes ago. sup|deadline has been extended. the deadline has been extended. it's in it's not just boris involved in this. there are messages this. okay there are messages between him. rishi sunak, dominic cummings , other people, dominic cummings, other people, key figures within the civil service as well . and i do service as well. and i do serious suspect that it is not simply a question of boris johnson being worried about what's in these messages, but other people and what that might mean for them when the next general election comes rolling around. i'm patrick christys on gb britain's

mornings on gb news the people's chemmet— mornings on gb news the people's channel. britain's— mornings on gb news the people's channel. britain's news . channel. britain's news. channel iweteome— channel. britain's news. channel |weteome teet— channel. britain's news. channel . welcome back. a— channel. britain's news. channel - welcome back. a little- channel. britain's news. channel i i a little later welcome back. a little later will welcome back. a little later this will look— welcome back. a little later this will look at- welcome back. a little later this will look at the - this hour, i will look at the massive albanian crime wave that is sweeping— massive albanian crime wave that is sweepimg eoss— massive albanian crime wave that is sweeping across the uk . and is sweeping across the uk. and of course, we'll— is sweeping across the uk. and of course, we'll be— is sweeping across the uk. and of course, we'll be talking etoet— of course, we'll be talking etoet the— of course, we'll be talking about the role— of course, we'll be talking about the role of our civil service— about the role of our civil setviee im— about the role of our civil service in blocking the rwanda ptem— service in blocking the rwanda ptem .— service in blocking the rwanda ptem . the— service in blocking the rwanda plan . the shocking story that plan. the shocking story that hightights— plan. the shocking story that highlights the _ plan. the shocking story that highlights the size of the attemiem— highlights the size of the albanian migrant crime wave, thoegh— albanian migrant crime wave, thoegh. thet— albanian migrant crime wave, though, that is— albanian migrant crime wave, though, that is in the uk , 80 though, that is in the uk, 80 attemiem— though, that is in the uk, 80 albanian migrants were jailed for albanian migrants were jailed tot e— albanian migrants were jailed tot e totet— albanian migrants were jailed for a total of— albanian migrants were jailed for a total of 130— albanian migrants were jailed for a total of 130 years. in the titst— for a total of 130 years. in the titst toet—

for a total of 130 years. in the first four months— for a total of 130 years. in the first four months of this year etome— first four months of this year etome they— first four months of this year alone. they have— first four months of this year alone. they have been convicted of alone. they have been convicted ot e— alone. they have been convicted ot e wite— alone. they have been convicted ot e wite temge— alone. they have been convicted of a wide range of— alone. they have been convicted of a wide range of serious crimes, including murder , rape crimes, including murder, rape emt— crimes, including murder, rape emt tireerms— crimes, including murder, rape and firearms offences. last yeer.— and firearms offences. last year, more than— and firearms offences. last year, more than 800 albanian etimimets— year, more than 800 albanian criminals were— year, more than 800 albanian criminals were deported back to the eoemtty. — criminals were deported back to the country. joining me is the totmet— the country. joining me is the former chief— the country. joining me is the former chief immigration officer at former chief immigration officer et wt— former chief immigration officer et gk totter— former chief immigration officer at uk border force . it's kevin at uk border force. it's kevin seemtets— at uk border force. it's kevin seemtets .— at uk border force. it's kevin saunders . and— at uk border force. it's kevin saunders . and kevin joins me saunders. and kevin joins me toot.— saunders. and kevin joins me now. look, kevin,— saunders. and kevin joins me now. look, kevin, i've got a eoepte— now. look, kevin, i've got a eoepte ot— now. look, kevin, i've got a couple of bits— now. look, kevin, i've got a couple of bits and bobs to ask you— couple of bits and bobs to ask yoe etoet— couple of bits and bobs to ask you about here. _ couple of bits and bobs to ask you about here. firstly firstly, titstty— you about here. firstly firstly, titstty. givem— you about here. firstly firstly, firstly, given that what we are heetimg— firstly, given that what we are heetimg thet— firstly, given that what we are hearing that the— firstly, given that what we are hearing that the civil service emt— hearing that the civil service and potentially— hearing that the civil service and potentially people who are in totter— and potentially people who are in border force— and potentially people who are in border force unions are considering— in border force unions are considering going on strike in otter— considering going on strike in otter to— considering going on strike in order to prevent— considering going on strike in order to prevent the rwanda sheme— order to prevent the rwanda scheme taking— order to prevent the rwanda scheme taking place, which could hetp— scheme taking place, which could hetp to— scheme taking place, which could hetp to teport— scheme taking place, which could help to deport people like these attemiem— help to deport people like these albanian criminals that we're tettimg— albanian criminals that we're talking about— albanian criminals that we're talking about now. how do you tespomt— talking about now. how do you tespomt to— talking about now. how do you respond to that?— talking about now. how do you respond to that? your former ehiet— respond to that? your former chief immigration officer aren't uk chief immigration officer aren't gk totter— chief immigration officer aren't uk border force.— chief immigration officer aren't uk border force. would you have ever seen anything— uk border force. would you have ever seen anything that ever seen anything like that in yoet— ever seen anything like that in yoet tey— ever seen anything like that in yoet tey e— ever seen anything like that in yoet tey e to.— ever seen anything like that in your day ? no, no.— ever seen anything like that in your day ? no, no. this is your day? no, no. this is etsotetety— your day? no, no. this is absolutely this- your day? no, no. this is absolutely this busting the civi— absolutely this busting the

civil service— absolutely this busting the civil service this does not get imvotvet— civil service this does not get imvotvet im— civil service this does not get involved in politics. that's for the politicians. it is the job of the civil service to follow the instructions of whichever government of the day is in power. and it's that simple . power. and it's that simple. well, okay. all right. and i is it— well, okay. all right. and i mean, is it any— kerrie. all right. and i mean, is it any shock to you to teeth— mean, is it any shock to you to teeth thet— mean, is it any shock to you to learn that we've— mean, is it any shock to you to learn that we've had murderers, tepists— learn that we've had murderers, tepists emt— learn that we've had murderers, rapists and firearms enthusiast eomimg— rapists and firearms enthusiast eomimg ove— rapists and firearms enthusiast coming over the— rapists and firearms enthusiast coming over the channel . kerrie. coming over the channel. well, no, no, no. nothing— coming over the channel. well, no, no, no. nothing nothing astonishes me anymore about what's coming over the channel i think it's good news that we're going to remove them . that going to remove them. that that's very good. i mean , it's that's very good. i mean, it's not so good that we're going to pay not so good that we're going to pay the albanian government up to £40 million to improve their prison batus but i suppose it's it it's a drop in the ocean. if we are actually getting rid of them, it costs about £57,000 to

keep somebody in prison. so it perhaps it's money well spent. yeah indeed. but what do you think— yeah indeed. but what do you thimt etoet— yeah indeed. but what do you thimt etoet .— yeah indeed. but what do you think about . we— yeah indeed. but what do you think about . we had- “titi" 33 but what do you think about . we had an exclusive think about. we had an exclusive hete— think about. we had an exclusive hete om— think about. we had an exclusive hete om et— think about. we had an exclusive here on gb news— think about. we had an exclusive here on gb news on dan wootton show— here on gb news on dan wootton show every— here on gb news on dan wootton show every might.— here on gb news on dan wootton show every night, monday to therstey.— show every night, monday to therstey. 9— show every night, monday to thursday, 9 to— show every night, monday to thursday, 9 to 11— show every night, monday to thursday, 9 to 11 pm. well worth— thursday, 9 to 11 pm. well worth e— thursday, 9 to 11 pm. well worth a watch— thursday, 9 to 11 pm. well worth a watch .— thursday, 9 to 11 pm. well worth a watch . and it was with worth a watch. and it was with the tether— worth a watch. and it was with the father of— worth a watch. and it was with the father of an— worth a watch. and it was with the father of an individual who was was set to _ the father of an individual who was was set to be— the father of an individual who was was set to be joining our etmet— was was set to be joining our etmet totes— was was set to be joining our armed forces who _ was was set to be joining our armed forces who was murdered on the streets— armed forces who was murdered on the streets ot— armed forces who was murdered on the streets of britain— armed forces who was murdered on the streets of britain by someone who - the streets of britain by someone who was convicted of a meteri— someone who was convicted of a metett ettoet— someone who was convicted of a murder abroad or— someone who was convicted of a murder abroad or drug dealing ettoet. — murder abroad or drug dealing abroad. rikki— murder abroad or drug dealing abroad. rikki neave acted by sevetet— abroad. rikki neave acted by several other— abroad. rikki neave acted by several other countries , lied several other countries, lied etoet— several other countries, lied etoet teimg— several other countries, lied about being a— several other countries, lied about being a child , was put about being a child, was put imto— about being a child, was put imto e— about being a child, was put into a school— about being a child, was put into a school in— about being a child, was put into a school in this country. he— into a school in this country. he het— into a school in this country. he had serious— into a school in this country. he had serious and serious wemimgs— he had serious and serious warnings about— he had serious and serious warnings about carrying a knife on warnings about carrying a knife om the— warnings about carrying a knife on the streets— warnings about carrying a knife on the streets of— warnings about carrying a knife on the streets of britain. went on the streets of britain. went om to— on the streets of britain. went om to meteri— on the streets of britain. went on to murder a— on the streets of britain. went on to murder a brit. and if that titm-t— on to murder a brit. and if that titm-t eete— on to murder a brit. and if that didn't wake us— on to murder a brit. and if that didn't wake us up,— on to murder a brit. and if that didn't wake us up, kevin, then i-m — didn't wake us up, kevin, then i-m mot— didn't wake us up, kevin, then i-m mot see— didn't wake us up, kevin, then i'm not sure what— didn't wake us up, kevin, then i'm not sure what will. but then totey.— i'm not sure what will. but then totey. mews— i'm not sure what will. but then today, news drops— i'm not sure what will. but then today, news drops the civil service— today, news drops the civil service apparently thinking etoet— service apparently thinking about striking— service apparently thinking about striking to block the itwemte— about striking to block the rwanda plan.— about striking to block the rwanda plan. i— about striking to block the rwanda plan. i mean, we are just

petting— rwanda plan. i mean, we are just putting ourselves— rwanda plan. i mean, we are just putting ourselves under threat, are putting ourselves under threat, we mote — putting ourselves under threat, are we not? we— putting ourselves under threat, are we not? we are- putting ourselves under threat, are we not? �*tv�*ri ”rfi; 33 putting ourselves under threat, are we not? �*tv�*ri fi”ri; 33 �*tv�*ri are we not? we are indeed. we are. we are completely. patrick. completely agree with yoe.— patrick. completely agree with yoe. the— patrick. completely agree with yoe. the civi— patrick. completely agree with you. the civil service should mot— you. the civil service should mot te— you. the civil service should not be involved— you. the civil service should not be involved in any strike eetiom. — not be involved in any strike action. against— not be involved in any strike action. gtf not be involved in any strike action. gf action. against what julia elected government is doing. and that's a fundamental rule. it's no ifs. there's no buts . if no ifs. there's no buts. if civil servants don't like what the government's doing, then they resign. it's that simple . they resign. it's that simple. oh, okay. all right . and when it oh, okay. all right. and when it to— oh, okay. all right. and when it to the— 0" all right. and when it comes to the albanian contingent . they-ve— comes to the albanian contingent . they-ve got— comes to the albanian contingent .they-ve got e— comes to the albanian contingent .they-ve got e tot— comes to the albanian contingent , they've got a lot of headlines totey.— , they've got a lot of headlines totey. acts— , they've got a lot of headlines today. acas albanians imprisoned for today. acas albanians imprisoned tot e— today. acas albanians imprisoned tot e totet— today. acas albanians imprisoned tot e totet ot— today. acas albanians imprisoned for a total of 130— today. acas albanians imprisoned for a total of 130 years in the test— for a total of 130 years in the test toet— for a total of 130 years in the last four months— for a total of 130 years in the last four months alone in what is it.— last four months alone in what is it. to— last four months alone in what is it. to yoe— last four months alone in what is it, do you think,— last four months alone in what is it, do you think, about espeets— is it, do you think, about espeets ot— is it, do you think, about aspects of those particular gemgse— aspects of those particular gemgse voe— aspects of those particular gangs? you know, is it unfair for gangs? you know, is it unfair tot to— gangs? you know, is it unfair tot to simgte— gangs? you know, is it unfair for to single out— gangs? you know, is it unfair for to single out albanians ? for to single out albanians? go.— for to single out albanians? to. its— for to single out albanians? to. its hot— for to single out albanians? no, it's not unfair— for to single out albanians? no, it's not unfair at- for to single out albanians? no, it's not unfair at all. - no, it's not unfair at all. i mean, goodness gracious , we've mean, goodness gracious, we've seen that albanians have now virtually taken over the running of drugs in the uk. they've

taken over from the vietnamese ice and the chinese and that isn't coming from border force , isn't coming from border force, that's coming from the police for goodness sake. so we know that the albanians are criminals. they are being brought here to run cannabis farms, prostitution , you name farms, prostitution, you name it, they're into it . so it is we it, they're into it. so it is we should be removing them. if someone. kevin, should be removing them. if someone . kevin, kevin, just to someone. kevin, kevin, just to imtettept— someone. kevin, kevin, just to imtettept. it— someone. kevin, kevin, just to interrupt, if someone- kevin, kevin, just to interrupt, if someone from totter— interrupt, if someone from tottet rotte— interrupt, if someone from border force ,_ interrupt, if someone from border force , if- interrupt, if someone from border force , if someone from border force, if someone from totter— border force, if someone from tottet rotte— border force, if someone from border force goes— border force, if someone from border force goes on strike over the implementation of the rwanda sheme— the implementation of the rwanda sheme whet— the implementation of the rwanda scheme, what would you have done to them— scheme, what would you have done to them i — scheme, what would you have done to them i wett— scheme, what would you have done to them ? well ,_ scheme, what would you have done to them 7 well, i'll— scheme, what would you have done to them 7 well, i'll i— scheme, what would you have done to them ? kerrie. .. to them? well, i'll i personally couldn't have done anything to them because there is a procedure that has to go that has to be gone through. but i am astonished that that we are we are putting up with people going on strike over rwanda. that is

just not on. i'm sorry, patrick. it's not on people shouldn't be doing it. they can go on strike over pay. they can go on strike over pay. they can go on strike over conditions . that's fine, over conditions. that's fine, but not over political things. okay kevin, thank you. always appreciate it. is— okay kevin, thank you. always appreciate it. is kevin- i always appreciate it. is kevin saunders there.— appreciate it. is kevin saunders there. the— appreciate it. is kevin saunders there, the former— appreciate it. is kevin saunders there, the former head of border totter— there, the former head of border toteee rest— there, the former head of border toteee rest e— there, the former head of border force? just a quick— there, the former head of border force? just a quick reminder , force? just a quick reminder, those— force? just a quick reminder, those opinion— force? just a quick reminder, those opinion polls that i've got— those opinion polls that i've got here— those opinion polls that i've got here im— those opinion polls that i've got here in front— those opinion polls that i've got here in front of me, 48% of peopte— got here in front of me, 48% of people sumo“— got here in front of me, 48% of people support the rwanda scheme eompetet— people support the rwanda scheme eompetet to— people support the rwanda scheme eompetet to how— people support the rwanda scheme compared to 40% who do not. and peopte— compared to 40% who do not. and more people think— compared to 40% who do not. and more people think it— compared to 40% who do not. and more people think it will work them— more people think it will work them womt — more people think it will work than won't. so— more people think it will work than won't. so you go, i'm going to toss— than won't. so you go, i'm going to cross now live— than won't. so you go, i'm going to cross now live to— than won't. so you go, i'm going to cross now live to oxford teese— to cross now live to oxford because there's— to cross now live to oxford because there's a trans gender showtowm— because there's a trans gender showdown taking _ because there's a trans gender showdown taking place at the momemt — showdown taking place at the moment. kathleen stock controversy _ moment. kathleen stock controversy .— moment. kathleen stock controversy . she has been asked controversy. she has been asked to teth— controversy. she has been asked to tett et— controversy. she has been asked to tett et the— controversy. she has been asked to talk at the oxford union. t hev— to talk at the oxford union. they heve— to talk at the oxford union. they heve e— to talk at the oxford union. they have a series of debates there.— they have a series of debates there. she-s— they have a series of debates there. she's going to be talking she— there. she's going to be talking she hes— there. she's going to be talking now. she has views such as men eemt— now. she has views such as men eem-t te— now. she has views such as men eem-t te eetet— now. she has views such as men eem-t te geiet .— now. she has views such as men can't be quiet , riots. �*tv�*ri now. she has views such as men can't be quiet , riots. �*frtti c. can't be quiet, riots. we will not— can't be quiet, riots. we will not ptey— can't be quiet, riots. we will not play nice . these- can't be quiet, riots. �*frtti c. i titi; these are not play nice. these are protesters— not play nice. these are protesters now- i titi; these are protesters now who don't think

thet— protesters now who don't think that something— protesters now who don't think that something stocks should be ettowet— that something stocks should be ettowet to— that something stocks should be allowed to source— that something stocks should be allowed to source as far as we're aware. let's just listen in to— we're aware. let's just listen in to some— we're aware. let's just listen in to some of— we're aware. let's just listen in to some of the- we're aware. let's just listen in to some of the shrieking sevitte— in to some of the shrieking sevilla was— in to some of the shrieking sevilla was a— in to some of the shrieking sevilla was a riot . �*tv�*ri in to some of the shrieking sevilla was a riot . �*frtti c. in to some of the shrieking sevilla was a riot . �*frtti cc sevilla was a riot. we will not play sevilla was a riot. we will not play nice fighting for our lives . we will not be quiet . so what . we will not be quiet. so what was the riot ? we will not play was the riot? we will not play nice fighting for our lives. was the riot? we will not play nice fighting for our lives . us nice fighting for our lives. us a chant. isn't it amazing that a stem— a chant. isn't it amazing that a ehemt with— a chant. isn't it amazing that a chant with such— a chant. isn't it amazing that a chant with such few— ri�*fi’x isn't it amazing that a chant with such few lyrics rij�*fiic isn't it amazing that a chant with such few lyrics needs to te— chant with such few lyrics needs to te teet— chant with such few lyrics needs to be read off— chant with such few lyrics needs to be read off a— chant with such few lyrics needs to be read off a phone? it's remarkable,— to be read off a phone? it's remarkable, isn't it? that. but we are. we are— remarkable, isn't it? that. but we are. we are going to be going to this— we are. we are going to be going to this throughout— we are. we are going to be going to this throughout the course of the tey— to this throughout the course of the tey es— to this throughout the course of the day as kathleen stock is controversially _ the day as kathleen stock is controversially going to be tettimg— controversially going to be talking here.— controversially going to be talking here. can we just get teet— talking here. can we just get test the— talking here. can we just get test the i— talking here. can we just get back in? i-be- talking here. can we just get back in? i be interested back in? i might be interested to-this— back in? i might be interested to-this particular.- to see what this particular. they— to see what this particular. they to.— to see what this particular. otey to. we— to see what this particular. okay no, we can't we'll not hear twesi —sistet.- okay no, we can't we'll not hear kwasi _sister. okay.- kwasi pete, your sister. okay. veet.— kwasi pete, your sister. okay. veeh. i— kwasi pete, your sister. okay. veeh. i es— kwasi pete, your sister. okay. yeah, i was rather— kwasi pete, your sister. okay. yeah, i was rather predictable. tpotogies— yeah, i was rather predictable. apologies about— yeah, i was rather predictable. apologies about all of the bad temgeege— apologies about all of the bad temgeege there— apologies about all of the bad language there .— apologies about all of the bad language there . sorry. sorry language there. sorry. sorry etoet— language there. sorry. sorry etoet thet.— language there. sorry. sorry about that. genuinely, for emytoty— about that. genuinely, for emytoty who— about that. genuinely, for anybody who is offended by what you anybody who is offended by what yoe test— anybody who is offended by what yoe rest heeti— anybody who is offended by what you just heard from oxford

there.— you just heard from oxford there. sorry.— you just heard from oxford there. sorry. sorry sorry. itight. — there. sorry. sorry sorry. itight. ptey— there. sorry. sorry sorry. right. okay. we will not be going— right. okay. we will not be goimg teet— right. okay. we will not be going back there anytime soon. of going back there anytime soon. or oese— going back there anytime soon. or we— going back there anytime soon. of course we will— going back there anytime soon. of course we will you of course we will play you etitet— of course we will play you edited versions— of course we will play you edited versions of what we hear, but edited versions of what we hear, tet—tovety- but they seem like a lovely tenth.— but they seem like a lovely temeh. wow.— but they seem like a lovely bunch. now. there's lots more stitt— bunch. now. there's lots more still- between - bunch. now. there's lots more still-between now. bunch. now. there's lots more still between now and still to come between now and stoo— still to come between now and stop-tettoet— still to come between now and 5:00 _fallout from - still to come between now and 5:00 fallout from the 5:00 as the fallout from the ihittips— 5:00 as the fallout from the phillips-scandal. 5:00 as the fallout from the - phillips-scandal keeps 5:00 as the fallout from the phicoming scandal keeps 5:00 as the fallout from the phicoming , scandal keeps 5:00 as the fallout from the phicoming , i scandal keeps 5:00 as the fallout from the phicoming , i will scandal keeps 5:00 as the fallout from the phicoming , i will ask,dal keeps 5:00 as the fallout from the phicoming , i will ask, didkeeps 5:00 as the fallout from the phicoming , i will ask, did holly on coming, i will ask, did holly wittoeghty— on coming, i will ask, did holly willoughby really— on coming, i will ask, did holly willoughby really not know that he es— willoughby really not know that he im— willoughby really not know that he was in relationship with he was in a relationship with a young— he was in a relationship with a young-colleague?- he was in a relationship with a young colleague? but first, young male colleague? but first, and young male colleague? but first, emt mot— young male colleague? but first, and not before— young male colleague? but first, and not before-it- young male colleague? but first, and not before-it is- young male colleague? but first, and not before it is your and not before time. it is your heettimes— and not before time. it is your headlines with— and not before time. it is your headlines with bethany halsey . headlines with bethany halsey. thems— headlines with bethany halsey. thanks, patrick.— headlines with bethany halsey. thanks, patrick. here's- headlines with bethany halsey. thanks, patrick. here's your latest from the newsroom. downing street has denied claims of a cover up over the release of a cover up over the release of former prime minister boris johnson's whatsapp messages to the covid inquiry. the inquiry has now extended the deadline for the government to hand over the unredacted messages to thursday. the cabinet office previously argued the material was irrelevant, but labours deputy leader angela rayner says the delaying tactics show the government has a lot to hide . government has a lot to hide. russia's president has blamed

ukraine for a rare drone strike on moscow, saying it was an attempt to scare and provoke him. the kremlin claims it shot down all eight drones, which targeted civilian infrastructure , describing the strikes as terrorist activity. several buildings were damaged and at least two people were injured . least two people were injured. while ukraine has denied responsibility for that attack in moscow, while dealing with the fallout of russia's latest strikes on its capital, kyiv. it's the third time russia has struck the city in 24 hours with ukraine's military claiming to have intercepted more than 20 drones at least one person has been killed . and the prime been killed. and the prime minister says plans to restrict the marketing of vapes will prevent what he called the unacceptable targeting of young people. ministers say they'll close a legal loophole allowing retailers to give free samples to children in england. they'll

also consider banning retailers selling nicotine free vapes to under 18 seconds. and you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website at gb news. .com. now it's back to . patrick okay. patrick- i okay. welcome hettiet— l okay. welcome back. patrick okay. welcome back. just want - okay. welcome back. just want to teitetete— - okay. welcome back. just want to reiterate i apology _ - okay. welcome back. just want to reiterate-apology .— . okay. welcome back. just want to reiterate-apology . if- to reiterate an apology. if emyome— to reiterate an apology. if anyone-hear- to reiterate an apology. if anyone hear any to reiterate an apology. if- anyone-hear any-language anyone did hear any bad language eettiet—it— anyone did hear any bad language eettiet—it is- anyone did hear any bad language earlier—it is the- earlier from oxford, it is the wett— earlier from oxford, it is the wett its— earlier from oxford, it is the well, it's outside— earlier from oxford, it is the well, it's outside the union where— well, it's outside the union where kathleen— well, it's outside the union where kathleen stock is going to be where kathleen stock is going to te tethimg— where kathleen stock is going to be talking. kathleen stock is a ptotessot— be talking. kathleen stock is a ptotessot et— be talking. kathleen stock is a professor at very— be talking. kathleen stock is a professor at very outspoken when it omes— professor at very outspoken when it to— professor at very outspoken when it comes to trans— professor at very outspoken when it comes to trans issues. and there— it comes to trans issues. and there is— it comes to trans issues. and there is e— it comes to trans issues. and there is a protest— it comes to trans issues. and there is a protest taking place. we there is a protest taking place. we otvioesty— there is a protest taking place. we obviously-to- there is a protest taking place. we obviously to that we obviously cut live to that protest. — we obviously cut live to that protest. _some- we obviously cut live to that protest. some bad protest. there was some bad temgeege.— protest. there was some bad language-like- language. i would like to totmetty— language. i would like to formally apologise now. think formally apologise now. i think it eeeght— formally apologise now. i think it caught everyone by surprise, titm-t— it caught everyone by surprise, titm-tlwe— it caught everyone by surprise, didn't-we will— it caught everyone by surprise, didn't-we will be- it caught everyone by surprise, didn't we will be going in didn't it? we will be going in emt— didn't it? we will be going in emet-thet— didn't it? we will be going in and that particular and out of that particular protest.— and out of that particular protest, though, although ptotetty— protest, though, although probably time probably at a more time epptoptiete— probably at a more time appropriate will probably at a more time ap|givingte will probably at a more time ap|giving you will probably at a more time ap|giving you the will probably at a more time ap|giving you the latest. will probably at a more time ap|giving you the latest. what.l be giving you the latest. what i think— be giving you the latest. what i thimt witt— be giving you the latest. what i thimt witt te— be giving you the latest. what i think will be fascinating thing

in think will be fascinating thing im etoet— think will be fascinating thing in about-hour's- think will be fascinating thing in about hour's time as in about half an hour's time as tethteem— in about half an hour's time as tethteem-es— in about half an hour's time as kathleen as understand in about half an hour's time as. ka'hasan-as.understand in about half an hour's time as ka'has presumably understand in about half an hour's time as ka'has presumably got understand in about half an hour's time as ka'has presumably got to derstand in about half an hour's time as ka'has presumably got to walkind it, has presumably got to walk thtoegh— it, has presumably got to walk through-protest- it, has presumably got to walk through protest in order through that protest in order test— through that protest in order test-emt— through that protest in order just-and talk- through that protest in order just and talk and voice just to go and talk and voice het— just to go and talk and voice het vies— just to go and talk and voice her views there. _ just to go and talk and voice her views there. now, these vies— her views there. now, these views-things- her views there. now, these views things like black views include things like black emt— views include things like black men and men and women and women , men and men and women and women .—teepty— , which is now deeply controversial- , which is now deeply controversial today's day , which is now deeply- controversialltoday's day and controversial in today's day and ege. — controversial in today's day and ege. .egeim— controversial in today's day and ege-egeim emt— controversial in today's day and ege-egeim emt i- controversial in today's day and age. again and i think age. and again and i think eeteetty— age. and again and i think actually personally , in light of actually personally, in light of whet— actually personally, in light of whet we— actually personally, in light of whet we test— actually personally, in light of what we just heard there, if you were unfortunate— what we just heard there, if you were unfortunate enough to have heett— were unfortunate enough to have heett some— were unfortunate enough to have heett ot— were unfortunate enough to have heard some of the— were unfortunate enough to have heard some of the blabbering tetimg— heard some of the blabbering taking-earlier- heard some of the blabbering taking earlier on, who are taking place earlier on, who are the—teety- the good guys here really ptotetty— the good guys here really probably—call. the good guys here really- probably_call them probably can't even call them thet.— probably can't even call them thet-who- probably can't even call them that,-who are- probably can't even call them that,-who are the. that, can you? who are the good guys— that, can you? who are the good geys hetet— that, can you? who are the good guys here? they're— that, can you? who are the good guys here? they're really where is the— guys here? they're really where is the aggression— guys here? they're really where is the aggression and the anger eomimg— is the aggression and the anger coming—thet.- is the aggression and the anger coming that, think, is the aggression and the anger coworth that, think, is the aggression and the anger coworth bearing that, think, is the aggression and the anger coworth bearing inthat, think, is the aggression and the anger coworth bearing in mind. think, is the aggression and the anger coworth bearing in mind. phil's is worth bearing in mind. phil's teem— is worth bearing in mind. phil's teem-et— is worth bearing in mind. phil's teemlet et— is worth bearing in mind. phil's been-at gb views- is worth bearing in mind. phil's been at gb views at gb news been on at gb views at gb news dot been on at gb views at gb news tot — been on at gb views at gb news tot wise— been on at gb views at gb news dot com. nice to— been on at gb views at gb news dot com. nice to see— been on at gb views at gb news dot com. nice to see the brains of dot com. nice to see the brains ot-et— dot com. nice to see the brains ot-et extort— dot com. nice to see the brains of at oxford university of britain at oxford university on of britain at oxford university om-show— of britain at oxford university om-show amt— of britain at oxford university on show and goes says he on your show and he goes says he tettet—etteety- better say they've already got tots— better say they've already got tots emt— better say they've already got jobs and another— better say they've already got jobs and another broadcaster there— jobs and another broadcaster there-behaviour. jobs and another broadcaster there behaviour of there we go the behaviour of ot— there we go the behaviour of some of these— there we go the behaviour of some of these protesters is tisgestimg. — some of these protesters is disgusting. they represent everything— disgusting. they represent everything that's wrong with this.— everything that's wrong with this—eoemttyl everything that's wrong with this. country, all this. once great country, all teese— this. once great country, all- because—sensible because a woman has a sensible opimiom— because a woman has a sensible opimiom etoet— because a woman has a sensible opinion about absolutely disgraceful.— opinion about absolutely disgraceful. and that is from etem— disgraceful. and that is from etem im— disgraceful. and that is from adam in cumbria. there's a lot of adam in cumbria. there's a lot ot this— adam in cumbria. there's a lot ot this coming— adam in cumbria. there's a lot of this coming on— adam in cumbria. there's a lot of this coming on time to tetttoze— of this coming on time to bulldoze oxford university and

itewitt— bulldoze oxford university and itewitt. the— bulldoze oxford university and rewild, the space, says richard us. rewild, the space, says richard us. strong— rewild, the space, says richard us. strong richard but, us. strong views. richard but, you— us. strong views. richard but, yoe-its— us. strong views. richard but, yoe-its hert— us. strong views. richard but, you-it's hard not- us. strong views. richard but, you it's hard not to you know, it's hard not to tisegtee— you know, it's hard not to disagree with— you know, it's hard not to disagree with you and things tite— disagree with you and things tite this. — disagree with you and things tite this. i— disagree with you and things like this. i also— disagree with you and things like this. i also couldn't help tet— like this. i also couldn't help but has but notice, as indeed mickey has poimtet— but notice, as indeed mickey has poimtet-the— but notice, as indeed mickey has pointed the socialist pointed out, that the socialist workers— pointed out, that the socialist workers-appears- pointed out, that the socialist workers appears to have workers party appears to have a tether— workers party appears to have a tether tetge — workers party appears to have a rather large presence in oxford totey—they-te- today and they are they're ttyimg— today and they are they're trying-freedom i today and they are they're trying freedom of today and they are they're- trying-freedom of speech trying to deny freedom of speech egem— trying to deny freedom of speech egeim—tey- trying to deny freedom of speech egeim—tey .- trying to deny freedom of speech egeim—tey . voetl again, says mickey key. your vies— again, says mickey key. your eomimg— again, says mickey key. your views coming in.— again, says mickey key. your views coming in. but there is a lot views coming in. but there is a tot ot— views coming in. but there is a lot of interest— views coming in. but there is a lot of interest in— views coming in. but there is a lot of interest in the inbox for ot— lot of interest in the inbox for some of our major stories of the day,— some of our major stories of the dew whith— some of our major stories of the day, which sends— some of our major stories of the day, which sends her around the thet— day, which sends her around the news that the _ day, which sends her around the news that the civil— day, which sends her around the news that the civil service at the— news that the civil service at the home— news that the civil service at the home office— news that the civil service at the home office may well go on strike— the home office may well go on strike it— the home office may well go on strike it they— the home office may well go on strike if they are— the home office may well go on strike if they are forced to emeet— strike if they are forced to emeet the — strike if they are forced to enact the rwanda policy . that enact the rwanda policy. that hes— enact the rwanda policy. that hes eset— enact the rwanda policy. that hes set e— enact the rwanda policy. that has caused a lot— enact the rwanda policy. that has caused a lot of controversy. a hege— has caused a lot of controversy. a hege emoet— has caused a lot of controversy. a huge amount of— has caused a lot of controversy. a huge amount of people seem to be a huge amount of people seem to te gettimg— a huge amount of people seem to te gettimg e— a huge amount of people seem to te gettimg e tot— a huge amount of people seem to be getting a lot flak saying be getting a lot of flak saying you— be getting a lot of flak saying yoe-eeti— be getting a lot of flak saying yoe-eett it— be getting a lot of flak saying you-call it the - be getting a lot of flak saying you call it the blob, can you can't call it the blob, can yoee— you can't call it the blob, can yoee ism-t— you can't call it the blob, can you? isn't that— you can't call it the blob, can you? isn't that just lazy? and i emtetstemt— you? isn't that just lazy? and i understand what— you? isn't that just lazy? and i understand what you mean. it tite— understand what you mean. it seems like one— understand what you mean. it seems like one of— understand what you mean. it seems like one of those terms thet-s— seems like one of those terms thet-s-oet— seems like one of those terms that's-out-isn'tl that's lobbed out there, isn't it? that's lobbed out there, isn't iti-trem— that's lobbed out there, isn't it?-drain-swamp,. that's lobbed out there, isn't it? drain swamp, but it? like drain the swamp, but them— it? like drain the swamp, but them-heve— it? like drain the swamp, but then-have to— it? like drain the swamp, but then have to look things then you have to look at things in the— then you have to look at things in the roent— then you have to look at things in the round or— then you have to look at things in the round or a— then you have to look at things in the round or a repeated pettetm— in the round or a repeated pettetm ot— in the round or a repeated pattern of leaking a of it pattern of leaking a lot of it tetse— pattern of leaking a lot of it tetse es— pattern of leaking a lot of it false as government ministers teimg— false as government ministers teimg-tetote- false as government ministers being before inquiries being hauled before inquiries oetet— being hauled before inquiries oetet im— being hauled before inquiries oetet im the— being hauled before inquiries outed in the case of dominic teet— outed in the case of dominic iteet es— outed in the case of dominic iteet es wett—

outed in the case of dominic raab as well .— outed in the case of dominic raab as well . and then you look raab as well. and then you look at raab as well. and then you look et the— raab as well. and then you look et the trip.— raab as well. and then you look et the trip. trip.— raab as well. and then you look at the drip, drip, drip of information— at the drip, drip, drip of information coming out now and them— information coming out now and them tespite— information coming out now and then despite the— information coming out now and then despite the fact that the oetts— then despite the fact that the oetts es us.— then despite the fact that the courts, as us, have decided that the itwemte— courts, as us, have decided that the rwanda scheme is completely teget— the rwanda scheme is completely teget thet— the rwanda scheme is completely legal, that public— the rwanda scheme is completely legal, that public again legal, that public opinion again is-tevoet— legal, that public opinion again is-tevoet ot— legal, that public opinion again is-favour of the- legal, that public opinion again is favour of the rwanda is more in favour of the rwanda sheme— is more in favour of the rwanda sheme them— is more in favour of the rwanda scheme than people oppose scheme than people who oppose it, scheme than people who oppose it—the- it, and then it falls onto the shoettet— it, and then it falls onto the shoulder of— it, and then it falls onto the shoulder of the _ it, and then it falls onto the shoulder of the civil service to go, shoulder of the civil service to go. wett — shoulder of the civil service to go. wett we — shoulder of the civil service to go, well, we tried— shoulder of the civil service to go, well, we tried everything etse.— go, well, we tried everything etse. we— go, well, we tried everything else. we possibly go, well, we tried everything. else. we possibly-let's else. we possibly can. now let's test—ism-tl just not work on it. and isn't thet— just not work on it. and isn't that fascinating?— just not work on it. and isn't that fascinating? i personally tetieve— that fascinating? i personally believe that— that fascinating? i personally believe that it's— that fascinating? i personally believe that it's because of a very— believe that it's because of a very straightforward reason, whith— which is that they know that there-s— which is that they know that there's-election. there's a general election eomimg— there's a general election coming—e- there's a general electioni eomimg—e yeet there's a general election. eomimg—e yeet ot coming up in about a year or time.— coming up in about a year or 50's time. and— coming up in about a year or so's time. and if— coming up in about a year or so's time. and if they drag their— so's time. and if they drag their feet— so's time. and if they drag their feet long— so's time. and if they drag their feet long enough and they hope— their feet long enough and they hope that— their feet long enough and they hope that-get- their feet long enough and they hope that get then hope that labour get in, then they— hope that labour get in, then they wen-h— hope that labour get in, then they weh-h-he- hope that labour get in, then they won't to bother they won't have to bother working— they won't have to bother working anyway. but these working on it anyway. but these heehhe— working on it anyway. but these peopte—funded. i working on it anyway. but these people funded. we people are taxpayer funded. we pay—i- people are taxpayer funded. we hey—h eehh- people are taxpayer funded. wei hey—h eehh hehh pay their wages and i can't help but heet— pay their wages and i can't help but heeh egeh— pay their wages and i can't help but feel again as— pay their wages and i can't help but feel again as though that we sheme— but feel again as though that we eheuhe he— but feel again as though that we should be withdrawing those wages— should be withdrawing those wages-week- should be withdrawing those. wages _worklmaybe wages until they work or maybe try wages until they work or maybe thy—form — wages until they work or maybe thy—form eh- wages until they work or maybe try—form of direct. try some more form of direct action.— try some more form of direct action-_the- try some more form of directi action._the civil action. how many of the civil servants— action. how many of the civil servants h— action. how many of the civil servants in question live anywhere— servants in question live anywhere near an asylum seeker heheh— anywhere near an asylum seeker heee-many— anywhere near an asylum seeker heheh-hehy eh— anywhere near an asylum seeker hotel? many of civil hotel? how many of the civil servants— hotel.7 how many of the civil servants—have. hotel? how many of the civili servants—have lost servants in question have lost hevee— servants in question have lost heee-e— servants in question have lost loved-a result- servants in question have lost loved-a result of- servants in question have lost loved a result of the loved ones as a result of the behaviour— loved ones as a result of the behaviour of— loved ones as a result of the behaviour of some the people behaviour of some of the people whe— behaviour of some of the people who-ceme— behaviour of some of the people who-come over— behaviour of some of the people who-come over the- behaviour of some of the people who come over the channel who have come over the channel ahe— who have come over the channel eee-ehewee— who have come over the channel and-allowed to— who have come over the channel and-allowed to stay- who have come over the channel and allowed to stay who and been allowed to stay and who have—doingl have abused our system by doing ehhee— have abused our system by doing ehhee-eheuh— have abused our system by doing things-about their- things like lying about their

heee,— things like lying about their ages, etcetera,— things like lying about their ages, etcetera, that's one thing that— ages, etcetera, that's one thing that h— ages, etcetera, that's one thing that h heme— ages, etcetera, that's one thing that i would be— ages, etcetera, that's one thing that i would be inclined to knew.— that i would be inclined to know-indeed- that i would be inclined to know.-indeed it- that i would be inclined to know. indeed it is true know. and if indeed it is true that— know. and if indeed it is true thet-eh— know. and if indeed it is true thee-eh the— know. and if indeed it is true that of the members of the that a lot of the members of the chu— that a lot of the members of the chit-ere— that a lot of the members of the civil-are working- that a lot of the members of the civil are working from civil service are working from heme,— civil service are working from heme—wml civil service are working from . home,_will have home, presumably they will have a home, presumably they will have e—ehe— home, presumably they will have e—ehe-eherel a spare room and in that spare perhaps— a spare room and in that spare room, perhaps instead of the taxpayer— room, perhaps instead of the taxpayer having— room, perhaps instead of the taxpayer having to pay £6 hhheh— taxpayer having to pay £6 million _for. taxpayer having to pay £6. million _for these million a day or so for these asylum— million a day or so for these asylum seeker— million a day or so for these asylum seeker hotels, would it not asylum seeker hotels, would it hoe—he— asylum seeker hotels, would it hot—he okay- asylum seeker hotels, would it hot—he eheylhuh| not potentially be okay to put them — not potentially be okay to put them h— not potentially be okay to put them he he— not potentially be okay to put them in one of— not potentially be okay to put them in one of their rooms and how— them in one of their rooms and hew quhehh— them in one of their rooms and see how quickly they come around to see how quickly they come around he—eehhe— see how quickly they come around t0—99tfing people- see how quickly they come around to getting people on to the idea of getting people on a to the idea of getting people on e-ee— to the idea of getting people on e-he hweheee— to the idea of getting people on a-to rwanda? i- to the idea of getting people on a to rwanda? i think what a plane to rwanda? i think what eee— a plane to rwanda? i think what else-fascinating— a plane to rwanda? i think what else fascinating well, else is fascinating as well, eehehhhg— else is fascinating as well, something that— else is fascinating as well, something that going else is fascinating as well, something that-going be something that we're going to be returning— something that we're going to be returning-with- something that we're going to be returning with guest, returning to short with a guest, fingere— returning to short with a guest, fingers crossed,— returning to short with a guest, fingers crossed, going to be fingers crossed, is going to be about—cover- about this alleged cover up eehhe— about this alleged cover up taking-the- about this alleged cover up taking the moment in taking place at the moment in reheheh— taking place at the moment in relation-boris— taking place at the moment in relation borisjohnson's relation to boris johnson's unredacted— relation to boris johnson's unredacted whatsapp messages. now:— unredacted whatsapp messages. heve—heehhe- now, i'm not really blaming hehe— now, i'm not really blaming boris johnson— now, i'm not really blaming boris johnson for this at i boris johnson for this at all. i eee-h— boris johnson for this at all. i eehh really— boris johnson for this at all. i don't really think— boris johnson for this at all. i don't really think that's necessarily— don't really think that's. necessarily-what don't really think that's- necessarily-what is necessarily his fault. what is heeehehhg— necessarily his fault. what is fascinating-that. necessarily his fault. what is fascinating that if fascinating for me is that if peopte— fascinating for me is that if heehhe-h— fascinating for me is that if people in possession of people are in possession of heee— people are in possession of. these—eee these whatsapp messages and goverhhehheh— these whatsapp messages and governmental and governmental diaries and unredacted— governmental diaries and unredacted information, who else is unredacted information, who else he wehhee— unredacted information, who else is worried about— unredacted information, who else is worried about what this might her— is worried about what this might mean for their— is worried about what this might mean for their future? could it be mean for their future? could it he he— mean for their future? could it he hhehh — mean for their future? could it be one rishi sunak himself again with— be one rishi sunak himself again whh—eehhe- be one rishi sunak himself again with—coming uh,- with the election coming up, whee— with the election coming up, what wm— with the election coming up, what will all— with the election coming up, what will all of— with the election coming up, what will all of this information- what will all of this information reveal? dare i say it, information reveal? dare i say he, eheuh— information reveal? dare i say it, about rishi's_ information reveal? dare i say it, about rishi's role in boris jehheeh-e— it, about rishi's role in boris johnson's demise and how would

aa— johnson's demise and how would that phy— johnson's demise and how would that play eee— johnson's demise and how would that play out with— johnson's demise and how would that play out with the general huhhe— that play out with the general huhhe a— that play out with the general huhhe a eh— that play out with the general public at an election? so watch the— public at an election? so watch the space— public at an election? so watch this space .that. _ public at an election? so watch this space that. but in other this space on that. but in other news, eamonn holmes the news, eamonn holmes has the how— news, eamonn holmes has the holly willoughby— news, eamonn holmes has the holly willoughby follow holly willoughby should follow hhhhh-e— holly willoughby should follow philip's schofield out of the deer— philip's schofield out of the deer ee— philip's schofield out of the door aslscandal- philip's schofield out of the- door aslscandal-signs door as a scandal shows no signs of door as a scandal shows no signs eh-ewey.— door as a scandal shows no signs ef-ewey. rh— door as a scandal shows no signs of-away. i'm patrick- of going away. i'm patrick chewe— of going away. i'm patrick chhehye eh— of going away. i'm patrick christys on gb— of going away. i'm patrick christys on gb news britain's

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it. anyway, what we voted for has backfired. you don't see many— has backfired. you don't see many heele— has backfired. you don't see many locals about- f ”cc you don't see many locals about anymore. thzh many locals about anymore. do you— many locals about anymore. do you aa— many locals about anymore. do you feet as— many locals about anymore. do you feel as though— many locals about anymore. do you feel as though you've got what you asked for? no, not at all. from what you asked for? no, not at eh. hem hy— what you asked for? no, not at all. from my point— what you asked for? no, not at all. from my point of- : 7:37 no, not at all. from my point of view, yes. hem — all. from my point of view, yes. hem e— all. from my point of view, yes. from a business— all. from my point of view, yes. from a business point— all. from my point of view, yes. from a business point of- all. from my point of view, yes. from a business point of view, this was a campaign to just to get a referendum, to get get a referendum, just to get a referendum. we need people like hheeh— referendum. we need people like hhgeh ee— referendum. we need people like hhgeh he grah— referendum. we need people like hhgeh he ghee h. — referendum. we need people like nigel to grab it. come- hz;�*7:i;”h:i;: we need people like nigel to grab it. lead nigel to grab it. come on. lead the eeumm — nigel to grab it. come on. lead the country. they— nigel to grab it. come on. lead the country. they tell- nigel to grab it. come on. lead the country. they tell us- nigel to grab it. lead the country. "cam as the country. they tell us at elections what they want us to heat elections what they want us to hear. but they never actually really. mean it. we're proud really. we mean it. we're proud to news brazier itn's news to be gb news brazier itn's news . channel well, another day, memer— . channel well, another day, another puzzle _ " well, another day, another puzzle piece unturned in the phillip— another puzzle piece unturned in the phillip schofield jigsaw , the phillip schofield jigsaw, the phillip schofield jigsaw, the reel— the phillip schofield jigsaw, the real life— the phillip schofield jigsaw, the real life itv drama continues— the real life itv drama continues to- the real life itv drama continues to unfold today with gb continues to unfold today with he newe— continues to unfold today with gb news eamonn— continues to unfold today with gb news eamonn holmes saying hehy— gb news eamonn holmes saying hehy mhheughhy— gb news eamonn holmes saying holly willoughby should follow her co—presenter_ holly willoughby should follow her co—presenter out out the deer. — her co—presenter out out the deer. she-e— her co—presenter out out the door. she's due— her co—presenter out out the door. she's due to- her co—presenter out out the door. 2:1; her co—presenter out out the door. 2.2; door. she's due to return to this morning's sofa after half term, having taken an early break. when schofield left the show . now he quit the channel. show. now he quit the channel. as we all know, last week after admitting an affair with a younger male colleague. the

show's former resident doctor, dr. ranj singh, says he raised concerns about bullying and discrimination two years ago. well eamonn holmes, who you will be able to hear more from this evening on dan wootton show. nine ioii. evening on dan wootton show. nine 1011. by the way, do not miss that. and former colleague of said that was of philip said that it was philip himself created an philip himself who created an atmosphere on the show where people hated him . and eamonn people hated him. and eamonn spoke exclusively to dan wootton last calling schofield last night, calling schofield a narcissist in life. i have always narcissist in life. i have eheeye hee— narcissist in life. i have always had this- ”h22. " l ”2; i have always had this belief ”h“22. “ l ”2; i have always had this belief that a lie unchallenged becomes the hem.— lie unchallenged becomes the hmh. se— lie unchallenged becomes the truth. so although i don't want to truth. so although i don't want he sheme— truth. so although i don't want he sheme uh— truth. so although i don't want he sheme he he— truth. so although i don't want to stand up to schofield eehehemhh— to stand up to schofield constantly pointing out where hee— constantly pointing out where he-e hme.— constantly pointing out where he-e hme. .— constantly pointing out where he's lying, i feel— constantly pointing out where he's lying, i feel i have to. is he's lying, i feel i have to. is he delusional?— he's lying, i feel i have to. is he delusional? does he imagine ? he delusional? does he imagine? hme— he delusional? does he imagine? me me— he delusional? does he imagine? hme hhe eh— he delusional? does he imagine? hme hhe e h— he delusional? does he imagine? and the or is he— he delusional? does he imagine? and the or is he so— he delusional? does he imagine? and the or is he so detached hem— and the or is he so detached hem heeh— and the or is he so detached from real life— and the or is he so detached from real life at— and the or is he so detached from real life at this morning hheh— from real life at this morning hheh he— from real life at this morning that he didn't— from real life at this morning that he didn't realise what was going— that he didn't realise what was gemg em— that he didn't realise what was gemg em vehem— that he didn't realise what was going on? when i— that he didn't realise what was going on? when i often say this to going on? when i often say this he hum.— going on? when i often say this he huhh h— going on? when i often say this he huhh h eete— going on? when i often say this to ruth, i said maybe he hehevee— to ruth, i said maybe he believes all— to ruth, i said maybe he believes all this stuff. maybe he the— believes all this stuff. maybe he he meh— believes all this stuff. maybe he did not see— believes all this stuff. maybe he did not see what went on. hehuehh— he did not see what went on. actually because— he did not see what went on. actually because there's

eemehhhe— actually because there's something wrong with him. but he is something wrong with him. but he he he— something wrong with him. but he he hhe ehheh— something wrong with him. but he is the chief narcissist. he is a eemhhehe— is the chief narcissist. he is a eemehehe eme— is the chief narcissist. he is a complete and utter dyed in the heet— complete and utter dyed in the weeh heme— complete and utter dyed in the wool nana narcissist. everything is wool nana narcissist. everything he eheuh— wool nana narcissist. everything he eheuh hhm— wool nana narcissist. everything he eheuh hhm . — wool nana narcissist. everything is about him . well,- wool nana narcissist. everything is about him . �*fh�*2;22 is about him. well, we spoke to people outside itv's television centre in west london to see what they think about this saga, what they think about this saga, what he's done, and that's it. they should let him, you know, eemhhmue— they should let him, you know, continue with— they should let him, you know, continue with his— they should let him, you know, continue with his life. there's a continue with his life. there's e heh— continue with his life. there's e heh eh— continue with his life. there's a heh eh eeeehe— continue with his life. there's a lot of people like him. i'm wondering— a lot of people like him. i'm wondering ht— a lot of people like him. i'm wondering if it's— a lot of people like him. i'm wondering if it's got something to do with his brother that's brought him down. really but and i've got no objection about him having a boy friend or whatever here in holly were very close. like they used families used to go on holidays together, didn't they? so for her not to know what's going on, it doesn't ring true to me. i would just say i think eamonn holmes as well is in the wrong because he's saying that he knew that this stuff was going on when he left this

morning. and he's only now hehhhhg— morning. and he's only now talking about— morning. and he's only now talking about it— 2 and he's only now talking about it when “2 and he's only now talking about it when phillip sehehhehe— talking about it when phillip schofield was— talking about it when phillip schofield was left. he should schofield was left. so he should heve— schofield was left. so he should have heuehh— schofield was left. so he should have brought it— schofield was left. so he should have brought it up. ' 2 �*" have brought it up. and if this morning were not listening to him had concerns with him and he had concerns with itv top should have top management, he should have gone it. and i think gone public with it. and i think it's just. court it's the it's just. the court it's the pot the kettle black pot calling the kettle black because say because why didn't you say something before? why are you not something before? why are you heh emh— something before? why are you not only telling _ something before? why are you not only telling people- “2 ”2;7 why are you not only telling people now when evemheey-e— not only telling people now when everybody's-phillip- everybody's on the phillip sehehhehe— everybody's on the phillip schofield train, but i schofield bashing train, but i hem-h— schofield bashing train, but i hemt-h— schofield bashing train, but i don't-i think- schofield bashing train, but i. don't-i think-what don't know. i think that what phillip schofield was wrong phillip schofield did was wrong and that he resigned. and it's good that he resigned. and think that itv should just and i think that itv should just be about and we be honest about it and say, we made a mistake and we're going to do best change to do our best to change and we're to do this type we're not going to do this type of i couldn't of stuff anymore. i couldn't care to be perfectly care less, to be perfectly honest. i think there's far more hmhehemh— honest. i think there's far more important things— honest. i think there's far more important things to— i think there's far more important things to be thinking etem— important things to be thinking eheuh eme— important things to be thinking about and worrying about in the heme— about and worrying about in the. world _whether about and worrying about in the. wshow_whether about and worrying about in the. wshow is _whether about and worrying about in the wshow is going whether about and worrying about in the wshow is going to whether about and worrying about in the wshow is going to get whether about and worrying about in the wshow is going to get cancelled r a show is going to get cancelled or a show is going to get cancelled eh-hheh— a show is going to get cancelled eh-hheh guy-e— a show is going to get cancelled or-that guy's right- a show is going to get cancelled or-that guy's right in- a show is going to get cancelled or-that guy's right in a. or not. that guy's right in a lot of senses, by the way, at the there, just want to the end there, i just want to reiterate, i couldn't give a toss about this morning whether or continues, whether or or not it continues, whether or not have anyone. koko the not they have anyone. koko the clown it or not they have anyone. koko the clown _it or anyone . clown presenting it or anyone he— clown presenting it or anyone hhhe-h— clown presenting it or anyone he. heh— clown presenting it or anyone like-i just don't- clown presenting it or anyone like i just don't care. like this. i just don't care. huh— like this. i just don't care.

huh-ee— like this. i just don't care. but-do think- like this. i just don't care. but-do think is. but what i do think is fascinating- but what i do think is fascinating is that things fascinating is that if things werelwhhehy— fascinating is that if things were .widely-as. fascinating is that if things. were .widely-as they were as widely known as they were-mere— were as widely known as they were .there are - were as widely known as they were there are rooms to be were and there are rooms to be a lot were and there are rooms to be a heh mee— were and there are rooms to be a heh hhhhge— were and there are rooms to be a lot more things coming out about this lot more things coming out about hhhe gehme— lot more things coming out about this going forward,— lot more things coming out about this going forward, the who knew wheh— this going forward, the who knew wheh whem — this going forward, the who knew what when game _ this going forward, the who knew what when game begins doesn't it and what when game begins doesn't it me me— what when game begins doesn't it me hheh h— what when game begins doesn't it and that i really— what when game begins doesn't it and that i really do— what when game begins doesn't it and that i really do think eehuehh— and that i really do think actually has— and that i really do think actually has a- and that i really do think actually has a massive massive hemme— actually has a massive massive heehmg ehewhhz— actually has a massive massive bearing showbiz journalist heheeee— bearing showbiz journalist rebecca twomey joins me now . and rebecca twomey joins me now. and this rebecca twomey joins me now. and hhhe he— rebecca twomey joins me now. and hhhe he wheh— rebecca twomey joins me now. and hhhe he wheh h— rebecca twomey joins me now. and this is what i want— rebecca twomey joins me now. and this is what i want to— rebecca twomey joins me now. and this is what i want to talk eheuh. — this is what i want to talk eheuh. h— this is what i want to talk about. i mean,- this is what i want to talk about. i mean, look, did holly hmewe— about. i mean, look, did holly knew he— about. i mean, look, did holly know? did holly— about. i mean, look, did holly know? did holly know about the eheyhhme— know? did holly know about the playtime around— know? did holly know about the playtime around at phillip scheme.— playtime around at phillip schofield, allegedly on a hhheeeye— schofield, allegedly on a thursday? i— schofield, allegedly on a thursday? i mean, if she did hmew— thursday? i mean, if she did hmew eheuh— thursday? i mean, if she did know about playtime on a mmemt.— know about playtime on a thursday, does— know about playtime on a thursday, does she not have to go thursday, does she not have to 90 ? — thursday, does she not have to ge e h— thursday, does she not have to ge e h heve— thursday, does she not have to ge e h heve he— thursday, does she not have to go ? i have to feel- thursday, does she not have to go ? i have to feel the- thursday, does she not have to go ? go? i have to feel the need here to step in to defend holly because not all the facts are clear at the moment. we're not 100% sure what— clear at the moment. we're not 100% sure what she— clear at the moment. we're not 100% sure what she was- 2 we're not 100% sure what she was privy to. we 100% sure what she was privy to. he knew— 100% sure what she was privy to. we know already— 100% sure what she was privy to. we know already that phillip sehehhehe— we know already that phillip schofield lied _ we know already that phillip schofield lied to his lawyers, to schofield lied to his lawyers, he eehehm— schofield lied to his lawyers, to certain newspapers , so we to certain newspapers, so we knew— to certain newspapers, so we knew hheh— to certain newspapers, so we knew hheh he— to certain newspapers, so we know that he has— to certain newspapers, so we know that he has a habit of hiding— know that he has a habit of hhehhg eh— know that he has a habit of hiding or concealing the truth. veheme— hiding or concealing the truth. theme-he— hiding or concealing the truth. whether-he hid- hiding or concealing the truth. whether-he hid that- hiding or concealing the truth. i whether-he hid that from whether or not he hid that from holly, we still don't really know. maybe she was privy to some information. also some information. and we also don't steps holly took

don't know what steps holly took herself. was she compliant? did she herself. was she compliant? did ehe-eh— herself. was she compliant? did ehe-eh-ehe- she enable it or did she eehuehh— she enable it or did she actually-to- she enable it or did she actually to bosses she enable it or did she- actually.to-bosses and actually go to her bosses and make— actually go to her bosses and make e— actually go to her bosses and make a complaint herself? we hem-h— make a complaint herself? we don't actually— make a complaint herself? we don't actually-of- make a complaint herself? we don't actually of the don't actually know any of the heee— don't actually know any of the heehe ee— don't actually know any of the facts, so i don't _ don't actually know any of the facts, so don't think it's facts, so i don't think it's heh— facts, so i don't think it's heh-hhhe— facts, so i don't think it's fair-this point- facts, so i don't think it's fair this point time to fair at this point in time to hehmh— fair at this point in time to hehmh-eh— fair at this point in time to point-at holly- fair at this point in time to point at holly when really point aim at holly when really wheh— point aim at holly when really wheh we— point aim at holly when really what we should— point aim at holly when really what we should be looking is what we should be looking at is hhhhhhh-e— what we should be looking at is| phillip's_whether, what we should be looking at is phil know, whether, what we should be looking at is philknow, phillip whether, what we should be looking at is philknow, phillip is whether, what we should be looking at is philknow, phillip is the whether, what we should be looking at is philknow, phillip is the person', you know, phillip is the person hheh— you know, phillip is the person heh-heh— you know, phillip is the person that. left the _ you know, phillip is the person that left the show. but who that he's left the show. but who ehee— that he's left the show. but who ehee wee— that he's left the show. but who else was responsible for facilitating _ else was responsible for facilitating because facilitating this? because heehhw— facilitating this? because heehhw-wehe- facilitating this? because really were lot of really there were a lot of eeeehe— really there were a lot of people-sound- really there were a lot of people sound like they really there were a lot of- people-sound like they knew people who sound like they knew but people who sound like they knew hwh them-h— people who sound like they knew but didn't have— people who sound like they knew but didn't have the— people who sound like they knew but didn't have the capabilities or, but didn't have the capabilities ee—eeewhhwl or, you know, the job security to or, you know, the job security he-eheeh— or, you know, the job security he-eheeh ewh. - or, you know, the job security to - speak out. you . or, you know, the job security to speak out. you have to actually speak out. you have to actually speak out. you have he ememeeh— to actually speak out. you have to remember, this— to actually speak out. you have to remember, this is tv a lot of eeeehe— to remember, this is tv a lot of eeeehe wew— to remember, this is tv a lot of eeeehe wew em— to remember, this is tv a lot of people work on short contracts eme— people work on short contracts and .freelancers. - people work on short contracts and freelancers. so were and are freelancers. so were eeeehe— and are freelancers. so were people out? people always able to speak out? and people always able to speak out? ame—wew- people always able to speak out? ame—wew weel and holly herself as well was wehehhw— and holly herself as well was probably tfiling— and holly herself as well was probably trying to protect her heh.— probably trying to protect her heh-ehe— probably trying to protect her heh-ehe-hwhhel probably trying to protect heri heh-ehe-hwhme he job. perhaps she was trying to be job. perhaps she was trying to he-hheme. — job. perhaps she was trying to be-friend. she- job. perhaps she was trying to be friend. she didn't be a good friend. she didn't hmew— be a good friend. she didn't knew-eh— be a good friend. she didn't know-of the- be a good friend. she didn't know of the facts. i think know many of the facts. i think at know many of the facts. i think eh—hh— know many of the facts. i think eh—hh heee- know many of the facts. i think at_it does seem. know many of the facts. i think. at_it does seem quite at the moment it does seem quite emeh— at the moment it does seem quite wmehlhmeeh— at the moment it does seem quite unfair-target holly— at the moment it does seem quite unfair target holly and sort unfair to target holly and sort of unfair to target holly and sort eh ehmeeh— unfair to target holly and sort of almost attack— unfair to target holly and sort of almost attack holly for eemehhhme— of almost attack holly for something we're not really something that we're not really sure about right now when the mh— sure about right now when the mehm-hhe— sure about right now when the main the behaviour main culprit of the behaviour hheh-e— main culprit of the behaviour hheh-e wew— main culprit of the behaviour that's, you know,— main culprit of the behaviour that's, you know, all these accusations— that's, you know, all these accusations coming is. accusations are coming in is. do accusations are coming in is. he wew— accusations are coming in is. he you hemeehhw— accusations are coming in is. i do you honestly-though, do you honestly think, though, just seriously, if just seriously, seriously, if holly know holly willoughby didn't know about we can about it, from what we can gather, one of the only gather, she's one of the only people building who people in that building who didn't it. and

didn't know about it. and some elements her involve elements of her job involve interviewing government ministers and potentially even a prime she's prime minister. and surely she's not that if she not capable of doing that if she can't not capable of doing that if she cant on not capable of doing that if she can't on under can't see what's going on under her nose well, i take your her nose? well, i take your point on that and sort of the response ability that that holly and phil have on that show is actually a massive, massive responsibility to people to communicate, particularly in the pandemic, communicating pandemic, to be communicating vital information and vital information to people and to to to be holding politicians to account well . but to be holding politicians to account well. but really, account as well. but really, i hhhmh— account as well. but really, i hhhmh h— account as well. but really, i think i think- account as well. but really, i think i think one— account as well. but really, i think i think one of- 22 but really, i think i think one of the eweehheme— think i think one of the questions in— think i think one of the questions in this situation, when.— questions in this situation, torfaen,-not- questions in this situation, torfaen, not here to torfaen, and i'm not here to eeh— torfaen, and i'm not here to eehh eh— torfaen, and i'm not here to eehh eh ewew— torfaen, and i'm not here to sort of sway one— torfaen, and i'm not here to sort of sway one way or the ehhee— sort of sway one way or the ehhee-heehhw— sort of sway one way or the other, really does someone's other, but really does someone's hehewhew— other, but really does someone's behaviour-screen— other, but really does someone's behaviour screen it's behaviour off screen if it's heeeh— behaviour off screen if it's heoeh. heee— behaviour off screen if it's legal, does it— behaviour off screen if it's legal, does it affect what a broadcaster— legal, does it affect what a broadcaster they are ? and it's broadcaster they are? and it's hehe— broadcaster they are? and it's hehe eh— broadcaster they are? and it's lots of things— broadcaster they are? and it's lots of things because it's not hhhe— lots of things because it's not hhhe hehwoehe— lots of things because it's not like partygate, it's not boris tehmeeh— like partygate, it's not boris tehmeem whe— like partygate, it's not boris johnson who was, you know, mehhhe— johnson who was, you know, mmhe—we- johnson who was, you know, mmhe—we ehewl johnson who was, you know,| making—us stay at making the rest of us stay at heme— making the rest of us stay at heme-meh— making the rest of us stay at heme-heh hue- making the rest of us stay at home-not hug or- making the rest of us stay at home not hug or our home and not hug or see our hemhhhee— home and not hug or see our families while- home and not hug or see our families while going to have a party-— families while going to have a pew-eemhe- families while going to have a eemw.-eewhem he- families while going to have a party. gayford is just party. phillips gayford is just a if party. phillips gayford is just e—h hee- a tv presenter, and if he's having— a tv presenter, and if he's having-ill— a tv presenter, and if he's having ill advised affair having an ill advised affair hheh— having an ill advised affair hheh-ewme- having an ill advised affair that-aware of- having an ill advised affair that aware of at the that we're aware of at the memeh— that we're aware of at the moment,.don't- that we're aware of at the moment, don't know what the moment, we don't know what the hehe—eeh- moment, we don't know what the hehe—em emel facts are going to come out and wheh— facts are going to come out and wheh-hehehe— facts are going to come out and what-reports are- facts are going to come out and what reports are going to what other reports are going to eewh huh— what other reports are going to surface. but does— what other reports are going to surface. but does affect surface. but does that affect hhm— surface. but does that affect hhm ee— surface. but does that affect hhm ee e— surface. but does that affect him as a broadcaster and does it

eheeh— him as a broadcaster and does it eheeh ee— him as a broadcaster and does it eheeh ee e— him as a broadcaster and does it affect as a broadcaster? and if hheh-e— affect as a broadcaster? and if hheh-e-eeehhw- affect as a broadcaster? and if that's-really, is- affect as a broadcaster? and if that's-really, is it. that's the case, really, is it eeh— that's the case, really, is it eehh eh— that's the case, really, is it eehh eh-we- that's the case, really, is it sort of-we be- that's the case, really, is it sort of we be the jury that's the case, really, is it- sort of-we be the jury on sort of should we be the jury on hheh— sort of should we be the jury on hheh eh— sort of should we be the jury on hheh eh hehhw-e— sort of should we be the jury on that on holly's yeah. that on holly's career? yeah. ohew. — that on holly's career? yeah. ohew. h— that on holly's career? yeah. okay. i understand— that on holly's career? yeah. okay. i understand your- that on holly's career? yeah. okay. i understand your point. i think there are certain aspects of this that may well be more troubling than anything that bofis troubling than anything that boris johnson has ever done, as far i can gather. but we'll far as i can gather. but we'll have to wait and see how time unfolds there. let's move it on further the chain. really. further up the chain. really. there be lot of very there must be a lot of very nervous people higher up the chain itv. looking at chain at itv. now, looking at this have we covered this thinking, have we covered ourselves in glory here? i mean, from what eamonn holmes was saying, this chap was getting a taxi paid for by itv from phillip schofield's house to the studios. the word that keeps coming up about this individual was troubled, troubled, troubled . i mean, at the very least, there appears to be a rampant abuse of power and some form of cover up going on here in a way that could well be deeply mentally damaging to a vulnerable individual. i mean, that's catastrophic . that's

that's catastrophic. that's terrifying. and that's something that terrifying. and that's something hheh hhe— terrifying. and that's something that the moment— terrifying. and that's something that the moment that- ”we “2 and that's something that the moment that we're not ehee— that the moment that we're not eheee eh— that the moment that we're not eheee eh hhh— that the moment that we're not clear of all the— that the moment that we're not clear of all the facts , it's not clear of all the facts, it's not eeehhw— clear of all the facts, it's not really something— clear of all the facts, it's not really something i think at the memeh— really something i think at the moment we can— really something i think at the moment we can debate with, you knew.— moment we can debate with, you knew. e— moment we can debate with, you knew. e heee— moment we can debate with, you knew. e hwee eh— moment we can debate with, you know, a huge of authority. we knew— know, a huge of authority. we knew hheee-e— know, a huge of authority. we know there's reports, we know hheee-e— know there's reports, we know hheee-e heee— know there's reports, we know there's been rumours. this is eemehhhe— there's been rumours. this is- something._known something. journalist have known ehewh— something. journalist have known hem—vew- something. journalist have known about—you know,| about for a long time. you know, it's about for a long time. you know, hh-e-eehhe— about for a long time. you know, hh-e-eehhe-weeee- it's been going on for years, hhhe— it's been going on for years, hhhe ehe— it's been going on for years, this and .just_ it's been going on for years, this and just stuff we this and it's just stuff we heweh-h— this and it's just stuff we haven't-able- this and it's just stuff we haven't able to report on. haven't been able to report on. huh— haven't been able to report on. huh heath.— haven't been able to report on. but really, when— haven't been able to report on. but really, when you're talking the— but really, when you're talking heh—eh— but really, when you're talking heh—eh ehwee- but really, when you're talking just—an abuse of. just then about an abuse of pee— just then about an abuse of power,-another- just then about an abuse of power, another very power, that's another very key pari— power, that's another very key pehlhhhe— power, that's another very key part-this, because- power, that's another very key part this, because philip is part of this, because philip is a_senior person. part of this, because philip isi a_senior person in part of this, because philip is. a_senior person in a a much more senior person in a wew— a much more senior person in a wew pewemwh— a much more senior person in a very powerful position. and wheh-e— very powerful position. and wheh-e-eeme- very powerful position. and what's come into question what's got to come into question here— what's got to come into question here he— what's got to come into question here he the— what's got to come into question here he the he— what's got to come into question here is, did he abuse that peehhhehe— position? because that is eemehhhhe— position? because that is something and something that is immoral and hate— something that is immoral and hheh-e—wehhl that's not someone we want on our screens delivering vital, hmpehehh— our screens delivering vital, important information to us. so the important information to us. so hhe—he- important information to us. so hhe—he wheh-el the abuse of power is what's eeehhw— the abuse of power is what's really—because. really interesting, because hheee-e— really interesting, because there's some— really interesting, because there's some conversations as wehh— there's some conversations as wehh-hhew.- there's some conversations as well-know, fears. well about you know, fears higher— well about you know, fears hhehee—eewhei higher up that there could pehehhhhhw— higher up that there could- potentially-homophobia potentially be some homophobia eewhe— potentially be some homophobia eewhhewe-h- potentially be some homophobia around-know, with- around it if, you know, with hhhhhp-e— around it if, you know, with. philip's—because, philip's relationship, because, you— philip's relationship, because, wew—hme- philip's relationship, because, wew—hme eh- philip's relationship, because, you _time of thatj you know, at the time of that eehhhehehhp— you know, at the time of that. relationship—actually relationship, he hadn't actually eeme-e— relationship, he hadn't actually eeme-e eeh— relationship, he hadn't actually come .as gay. and - relationship, he hadn't actually come as gay. and if you just come out as gay. and if you just hhhhh— come out as gay. and if you just heh heh— come out as gay. and if you just think about in— come out as gay. and if you just think about in the— come out as gay. and if you just think about in the era, if think about in the metoo era, if you— think about in the metoo era, if wew hhp— think about in the metoo era, if wew hhp hhe— think about in the metoo era, if you flip the dynamic and you hhhhh— you flip the dynamic and you hhhhh hh— you flip the dynamic and you think if this— you flip the dynamic and you think if this was- you flip the dynamic and you think if this was an older and ether— think if this was an older and eheee ow.— think if this was an older and eheee ow. wew— think if this was an older and older guy, you know, his 50s older guy, you know, in his 50s ehe— older guy, you know, in his 50s ehelwee— older guy, you know, in his 50s ehelwee e— older guy, you know, in his 50s andlwas a maybe— older guy, you know, in his 50s and was a maybe a younger

and it was a maybe a younger impressionable— and it was a maybe a younger impressionable female at 18, i hhhhh— impressionable female at 18, i hhhhh-he— impressionable female at 18, i think-be having- impressionable female at 18, i think be having slightly think we'd be having a slightly ehheeehh— think we'd be having a slightly different—feelsl different conversation. it feels he— different conversation. it feels heh-ee— different conversation. it feels that-so-threadsl different conversation. it feelsi that-so-threads to that there's so many threads to hhhe— that there's so many threads to hhhe hhhe— that there's so many threads to hhhe hhhe ehew— that there's so many threads to this this story right now where peephe—whheh- this this story right now where people which way people aren't sure which way he— people aren't sure which way hey—eel they should they should go. heeewee— they should they should go. because.philip_ they should they should go. because philip and this because if philip and this individual- because if philip and this individual had to have because if philip and this individual had _to have 20 individual had gone to have a 20 wem— individual had gone to have a 20 year-relationship— year long relationship and hhhhhp—e- year long relationship and philip—a gav- year long relationship and. philip—a gay man, year long relationship and- philip_a gay man, it philip was out as a gay man, it wewhe— philip was out as a gay man, it wewhe hh— philip was out as a gay man, it would it-feel_ philip was out as a gay man, it would it-feel less- philip was out as a gay man, it would it feel less sort of would it would feel less sort of ehheeehhhe— would it would feel less sort of clandestine and— would it would feel less sort of clandestine and less of clandestine and less sort of ememh— clandestine and less sort of wheemhlh-e— clandestine and less sort of uncomfy i'd inclined to uncomfy, i'd be inclined to heee— uncomfy, i'd be inclined to agree whhh— uncomfy, i'd be inclined to agree with you— uncomfy, i'd be inclined to agree with you had in my view, hhhhhp— agree with you had in my view, philip schofield— agree with you had in my view, philip schofield not used his eemhe— philip schofield not used his eemhe-e— philip schofield not used his coming-a mask- philip schofield not used his coming a mask for a coming out as a mask for a massive controversy. ' massive controversy. and i the eeheeh— massive controversy. and i the actual, know, the person who actual, you know, the person who i most for of i feel most sorry for in all of this and did at the time and i this and i did at the time and i do now. it's his wife and his and his children because this is this absolute staggering. this is absolute staggering. and, know, from what and, you know, she's, from what i maintained a i can gather, maintained a dignified look, dignified silence. look, rebecca, you very much. rebecca, thank you very much. always pleasure. rebecca told always a pleasure. rebecca told me journalist at so me that showbiz journalist at so an said the an itv spokesman said the broadcaster can confirm when rumours a relationship rumours of a relationship between philip's schofield and rumours of a relationship betemployee p's schofield and rumours of a relationship betemployee of; schofield and rumours of a relationship betemployee of itviofield and rumours of a relationship betemployee of itv first.d and rumours of a relationship betemployee of itv first began an employee of itv first began to circulate in early 2020. itv investigated. both parties were questioned and both categorically and repeatedly denied the rumours, as did philip's then agency ymu. in

addition , itv spoke to a number addition, itv spoke to a number of people who worked on this morning and were not provided with and did not find any evidence of a relationship beyond hearsay rumour. beyond hearsay and rumour. philip's statement on friday reveals he lied to people reveals that he lied to people at itv from senior management to fellow to emu . it's fellow presenters to emu. it's like fellow presenters to emu. it's uke and fellow presenters to emu. it's like and conditions. like the terms and conditions. this it to media and this isn't it to the media and the others over relationship . the others over relationship. good. okay right. anyway, okay, so very much a shift in tone now people , yesterday i brought you people, yesterday i brought you the huge news that you have raised more than £50,000 for the mental health charity mind . can mental health charity mind. can i just say a massive thank you again ? this happened live on again? this happened live on air. we hit that 50,000 mark. i'm doing it ahead of my appearance on stage with a group of male strippers called the dreamboys. there's now less than a month to go until the big night on wednesday, june the 28th. i cannot wait for it to be oven 28th. i cannot wait for it to be over. i'm going to get my kit off on stage with the dreamboys. i'm not dancer and i haven't i'm not a dancer and i haven't got great so it's kind

got a great body, so it's kind of double humiliating. also apparently there's quite a big gb contingent so gb news contingent going. so now all get see all of my colleagues get to see it, will you because we it, but so will you because we will be, of course, videoing it and putting it out on national television. is exactly television. it is not exactly the kind exposure that i or the kind of exposure that i or indeedi the kind of exposure that i or indeed i suspect of my indeed i suspect any of my viewers when it comes to viewers wanted when it comes to my television career. you're my television career. but you're getting and yeah, thank getting it at and yeah, thank you. you still donate by you. so you can still donate by the way, i'm doing three routines night. of routines on the night. one of them a solo. you lucky them will be a solo. you lucky people. i met the lads a couple of weeks ago, learnt the moves. i'll be in bromley in kent in just four time and just under four weeks time and we raising money for the we are raising money for the mental health charity at mental health charity mind at the unfortunately the moment. unfortunately there's it there's a huge backlog when it comes to people able comes to people being able to access on the access mental health care on the nhs. of course still nhs. although of course still do try mental health care on try to get mental health care on the nhs. not discouraging anyone, but services like mind can gap and help cut can bridge that gap and help cut down times help down on waiting times and help people getting the help that they need. and that link is just giving .com forward slash fundraising forward slash challenge christie's. and since fundraising forward slash ccameige christie's. and since fundraising forward slash ccame off christie's. and since fundraising forward slash ccame off airistie's. and since fundraising forward slash ccame off air yesterdayi since fundraising forward slash ccame off air yesterday so nce i came off air yesterday so without me even rattling the can

like this another three and a bit grand has been raised because we've now raised almost £54,000. i reckon we're going to hit 60. i reckon we're going to hit 60. i reckon we're going to hit 60. i reckon we're going to hit 60. thank you very much. just giving.com/fundraising, forward slash challenge. christie's please, please, please, please. let's please, please, please. let's save some lives . but just save some lives. but just a little teaser as to what i've got coming in the next hour. trans rights activists are protesting in oxford right now before giving before caitlyn starts giving a speech. before caitlyn starts giving a speech . fingers we'll speech. fingers crossed, we'll actually go to that actually be able to go to that at point. i'm patrick at some point. i'm patrick christys on gb news, britain's news .

channel good evening . it's 5 pm. it's good evening. it's 5 pm. it's patrick christys. it's gb news. a big hour. yes, it's all build ing to this crescendo in oxford where there is a big trans showdown going on. tempers are flaring , protests are in full flaring, protests are in full swing as kathleen stock is due to talk oxford. she thinks that women are women and men are men . and you can't go around saying things like that. these days, can they're in arms, can you? they're up in arms, that anyway we're also that lot. anyway we're also going talking this. going to be talking about this. are service going to are these civil service going to go on strike stop the rwanda go on strike to stop the rwanda deal? absolutely deal? this is absolutely outrageous. some are outrageous. some people are calling woke blob coup. calling this a woke blob coup. in other news, we're going to be talking as well, of course, about the albanian crime wave thatis about the albanian crime wave that is sweeping the streets of britain. 80 albanian criminals jailed in the first four months

of this year for a total of 130 years for crimes including murder, rape and firearms offences. caroline age doesn't want to talk about that, does he 7 want to talk about that, does he ? and finally, we're also going to be mentioning this s what's whatsapp? boris yes, very strange stuff taking place at the there a deadline the moment. there was a deadline today unredacted whatsapp today for unredacted whatsapp messages boris johnson messages between boris johnson and around 40 other people to be handed to the inquiry. as handed over to the inquiry. as we understand it, that deadline was missed. why i suspect it's not just boris johnson who's worried of this. what worried about all of this. what really is going on behind the scenes in downing street. patrick christys on gb news is . patrick christys on gb news is. get those emails coming in thick and fast . gb views and gb news and fast. gb views and gb news dot com civil service blob. if they go on strike. what does this really mean for our democracy? are they serious ? democracy? are they serious? going to block the rwanda deal by deliberately not working on it? that is an absolute shocker. i want your views on all of that. and what you think is

that. and what do you think is going with the boris johnson going on with the boris johnson whatsapp you think whatsapp messages? do you think this part of a big boris this is part of a big boris johnson witch hunt? is there more meets here? more than meets the eye here? i suspect that rishi sunak is a little worried about the little bit worried about the content of some those content of some of those messages as gb views a gb messages as well. gb views a gb news dot com. but right now, though, it's time for your headunes though, it's time for your headlines bethany . patrick headlines with bethany. patrick thank you. good evening. here's wew— thank you. good evening. here's wew hep— thank you. good evening. here's wew hep eheehee— thank you. good evening. here's your top stories from _ good evening. here's your top stories from the gb wewe— your top stories from the gb news room at— your top stories from the gb news room at 5:00. downing sheeh— news room at 5:00. downing eheeh hee— news room at 5:00. downing street has denied claims of a pp— street has denied claims of a cover up over the— street has denied claims of a cover up over the release of hme— cover up over the release of hme hhme— cover up over the release of former prime minister boris hehheeh-e— former prime minister boris johnson's whatsapp messages to the johnson's whatsapp messages to hhe-hhewhw— johnson's whatsapp messages to hhe-hhewhw .— johnson's whatsapp messages to hhe-hhewhw . hhe- johnson's whatsapp messages to the inquiry. the inquiry the covid inquiry. the inquiry hee— the covid inquiry. the inquiry hee ew— the covid inquiry. the inquiry has now extended the deadline for has now extended the deadline he he— has now extended the deadline for the government to hand over the unredacted— for the government to hand over the unredacted messages to hhweehw— the unredacted messages to thursday. the— the unredacted messages to thursday. the cabinet office peewhewehw— thursday. the cabinet office previously argued the material was irrelevant,— previously argued the material was irrelevant, but labours pepwhw— was irrelevant, but labours pepwhw heater— was irrelevant, but labours deputy leader angela rayner says the deputy leader angela rayner says hhe eehwhhe— deputy leader angela rayner says the delaying tactics show the eewemmehh— the delaying tactics show the government has— the delaying tactics show the government has a lot to hide. whhhe— government has a lot to hide. whhhe hhe— government has a lot to hide. while the prime— government has a lot to hide. while the prime minister has defended— while the prime minister has defended their— while the prime minister has defended their approach , the defended their approach, the government's— defended their approach, the government's handed over tens ehe— government's handed over tens ehe hehe— government's handed over tens and hem eh— government's handed over tens and tens of thousands of documents— and tens of thousands of documents in— and tens of thousands of documents in a spirit of candour

ehe— documents in a spirit of candour and transparency— documents in a spirit of candour and transparency because it is hmpehehh— and transparency because it is hmpehhhh hheh— and transparency because it is important that we learn the heeeehe— important that we learn the heeeehe eh— important that we learn the lessons of covid with regard to the lessons of covid with regard to hhe pehhewhe— lessons of covid with regard to the particular question, at the memeh— the particular question, at the moment, we're— the particular question, at the moment, we're carefully eeheheeehhe— moment, we're carefully considering next steps. the pewemmehh— considering next steps. the government is— considering next steps. the government is confident in its position. meanwhile rishi sunak will meet with president joe biden in washington next week to discuss trade climate action and the war in ukraine. downer street says the _ the war in ukraine. downer street says the uk- the war in ukraine. downer street says the uk is- “ downer street says the uk is not pwewhhe— street says the uk is not pwewhho e— street says the uk is not pursuing a full trade agreement whhh— pursuing a full trade agreement whhh hhe— pursuing a full trade agreement whhh hhe us— pursuing a full trade agreement whhh hhe us .— pursuing a full trade agreement with the us . russia's president with the us. russia's president hee— with the us. russia's president he hhmee— with the us. russia's president has blamed ukraine for a rare hehe— has blamed ukraine for a rare hehe ehhhe— has blamed ukraine for a rare drone strike on— has blamed ukraine for a rare drone strike on moscow, saying it drone strike on moscow, saying hh wee— drone strike on moscow, saying hh eh— drone strike on moscow, saying it was an attempt— drone strike on moscow, saying it was an attempt to scare and peewehe— it was an attempt to scare and peewehe hhm— it was an attempt to scare and provoke him. the— it was an attempt to scare and provoke him. the kremlin claims it provoke him. the kremlin claims hh eheh— provoke him. the kremlin claims hh eheh eewh— provoke him. the kremlin claims it shot down all— provoke him. the kremlin claims it shot down all eight drones, whheh— it shot down all eight drones, which targeted— it shot down all eight drones, which targeted civilian infrastructure, describing the ehhhee— infrastructure, describing the ehhhee ee— infrastructure, describing the strikes as terrorist activity. seweeeh— strikes as terrorist activity. several buildings were damaged and several buildings were damaged ehe eh— several buildings were damaged ehe eh heeeh— several buildings were damaged and at least two— several buildings were damaged and at least two people were hep-wee— and at least two people were injured while— and at least two people were injured while speaking in hehephe— injured while speaking in estonia. ahead of a nato meehhe— estonia. ahead of a nato meeting, the— estonia. ahead of a nato meeting, the foreign secretary james— meeting, the foreign secretary hmee eheh.— meeting, the foreign secretary james cleverly, has supported whehhe-e— james cleverly, has supported ukraine's right— james cleverly, has supported ukraine's right to defend itself .hheh— ukraine's right to defend itself , that ukraine— ukraine's right to defend itself , that ukraine does have the hephhhmehe— , that ukraine does have the legitimate right— , that ukraine does have the legitimate right to defend hheeh— legitimate right to defend hheeh hh— legitimate right to defend itself if it— legitimate right to defend itself if it has— legitimate right to defend itself if it has the legitimate whhh— itself if it has the legitimate

hehh he— itself if it has the legitimate hehh he he— itself if it has the legitimate right to do so— itself if it has the legitimate right to do so within its own heeeeee. — right to do so within its own heeeeee. oh— right to do so within its own borders. of course- right to do so within its own borders. cj�*" 222. right to do so within its own borders. 222. right to do so within its own borders. cj�*" 222. 2 right to do so within its own borders. 222. e 2 borders. of course. but it does also have the right to project force beyond its borders to undermine russia's ability to project force into ukraine itself. so well, ukraine has eemee— so well, ukraine has denied responsibility for the ehheeh— denied responsibility for the ehheeh hh— denied responsibility for the attack in moscow while dealing whhh— attack in moscow while dealing whhh hhe— attack in moscow while dealing with the fallout- attack in moscow while dealing with the fallout of russia's heheeh— with the fallout of russia's latest strikes _ with the fallout of russia's latest strikes on its capital, hwhw— latest strikes on its capital, hwhw .— latest strikes on its capital, hwhw . — latest strikes on its capital, hwhw . heh— latest strikes on its capital, kyiv . four people- latest strikes on its capital, kyiv . latest strikes on its capital, kyiv. “ kyiv. four people have been killed and at least 34 injured, including two children. it's the third time russia's struck the city in the past 24 hours with ukraine's military claiming to have intercepted more than 20 drones. the former president of ukraine, petro poroshenko, told gb news the country's counter—offensive will begin within days . it would start if within days. it would start if heh— within days. it would start if heh whhh— within days. it would start if not within hours— within days. it would start if not within hours ,_ “ 2 it would start if not within hours , but definitely not within hours, but definitely whhh— not within hours, but definitely whhhhh eewe— not within hours, but definitely whhhhh eewe .— not within hours, but definitely within days. but— not within hours, but definitely within days . but russia should within days. but russia should hhew—

within days. but russia should knew he— within days. but russia should know that this— within days. but russia should know that this is— within days. but russia should know that this is not a second wett— know that this is not a second weehe wee. — know that this is not a second world war. this— know that this is not a second world war. this is— know that this is not a second world war. this is the modern hhe— world war. this is the modern war. and russia— world war. this is the modern war. and russia should understand— war. and russia should understand that ukraine can hewheh— understand that ukraine can launch there. _ understand that ukraine can launch there. it's not a counter eheeh. — launch there. it's not a counter eheeh. hhhe— launch there. it's not a counter effect. this is— launch there. it's not a counter effect. this is our— launch there. it's not a counter effect. this is our offensive epeeehheh— effect. this is our offensive operation that— effect. this is our offensive operation that should start any memeh— operation that should start any memeh eh— operation that should start any memeh eh ehw— operation that should start any moment at any place. the prime whhhehee— moment at any place. the prime whhhehee eewe— moment at any place. the prime minister says plans— moment at any place. the prime minister says plans to restrict the marketing— minister says plans to restrict the marketing of— minister says plans to restrict the marketing of vapes will peewehh— the marketing of vapes will prevent what _ the marketing of vapes will prevent what he called the unacceptable _ prevent what he called the unacceptable targeting of young peephe— unacceptable targeting of young peephe . — unacceptable targeting of young people . ministers— unacceptable targeting of young people . ii “ 2 people. ministers say they'll close a legal loophole allowing retailers to give free samples to children in england. they'll also consider banning retailers selling nicotine free vapes to under 18 seconds. the director of the uk's largest e—cigarette and vaping retailer, doug mutter , says it's a welcome step. but tough action and policing is needed to back it up . we want needed to back it up. we want actually to push— needed to back it up. we want actually to push further- 22 2 e l. we want actually to push further and ask for actually to push further and ask her heweh— actually to push further and ask for tough sanctions to follow up the statement— for tough sanctions to follow up the statement where we bring in thee— the statement where we bring in he eh— the statement where we bring in he eh ep— the statement where we bring in he eh up he— the statement where we bring in fines of up to £10,000 per hhehehee—

fines of up to £10,000 per instance because the fines are heh— instance because the fines are heh happening-— instance because the fines are not happening. this loophole heede— not happening. this loophole needs closed— not happening. this loophole needs closed out— not happening. this loophole needs closed out and we need to ehep— needs closed out and we need to ehep hheee— needs closed out and we need to stop these products— needs closed out and we need to stop these products being accessible— stop these products being accessible to _ stop these products being accessible to children . ““ accessible to children. eamonn hehmee— accessible to children. eamonn hehmee hee— accessible to children. eamonn holmes has alleged there was a total cover up of philip schofield's affair with a much younger male colleague at itv's this morning school field quit the show on friday and was dropped by his agency after admitting to an unwise but not illegal affair in a gb news exclusive former this morning host eamonn holmes claimed executives at itv knew about the affair and covered it up to protect philip holly willoughby and the brand . and i didn't. and the brand. and i didn't. i eheh-h— and the brand. and i didn't. i eheh-h hhew— and the brand. and i didn't. i didn't know anything. - 2“2 2 and i didn't. i didn't know anything. i heard some rumours.— didn't know anything. i heard some rumours. where were you some rumours. where were you eehe— some rumours. where were you eehe he— some rumours. where were you going he 90— some rumours. where were you going he pe he— some rumours. where were you going to go to with these rumours? who- going to go to with these rumours? who you know, everyone was rumours? who you know, everyone heem— rumours? who you know, everyone heem hhhhhp— rumours? who you know, everyone was team philip and holly , and was team philip and holly, and hey— was team philip and holly, and hey wee— was team philip and holly, and they were there— was team philip and holly, and they were there together. they were seen together . they were were seen together. they were the were seen together. they were hhe hehe— were seen together. they were hhe hehe .— were seen together. they were the brand . well,— were seen together. they were the brand . well, in a statement, the brand. well, in a statement, itv confirmed— the brand. well, in a statement, itv confirmed it— the brand. well, in a statement, itv confirmed it investigated rumours of a relationship hehweeh— rumours of a relationship between schofield and a fellow

emphewee— between schofield and a fellow emphewee ehe— between schofield and a fellow employee and that both parties eehepeheehhw— employee and that both parties categorically and— employee and that both parties categorically and repeatedly eemee— categorically and repeatedly denied rumours, as did schofield egem— denied rumours, as did schofield eeehh eh— denied rumours, as did schofield epehh eh hhe— denied rumours, as did schofield agent at the time— denied rumours, as did schofield agent at the time . ' 2 denied rumours, as did schofield agent at the time . ' “2 22 agent at the time. and you can weheh— agent at the time. and you can watch the full interview on dan wootton tonight from 9 pm. you're up to date on gb news. now it's back to . now it's back to. patrick welcome back. now, now it's back to. patrick- . welcome back. now, prime whhhehee— . welcome back. now, prime minister-sunak- . welcome back. now, prime minister-sunak is- welcome back. now, prime minister sunak is backing minister rishi sunak is backing a minister rishi sunak is backing e hemhhheh— minister rishi sunak is backing a feminist academic has been a feminist academic who has been heeeehee— a feminist academic who has been heeeehee hw— a feminist academic who has been heeeehee by hehe— a feminist academic who has been targeted by trans rights eehhwhehe— targeted by trans rights activists speak at the oxford activists to speak at the oxford whheh— activists to speak at the oxford whheh hehw— activists to speak at the oxford whheh heeew .— activists to speak at the oxford union today . we've been building union today. we've been building up he— union today. we've been building up he hhhe— union today. we've been building up to this throughout the course of up to this throughout the course eh hhe— up to this throughout the course eh hhe ehew. — up to this throughout the course of the show. professor kathleen sheeh— of the show. professor kathleen eheh-hee— of the show. professor kathleen sheeh-hee tep— of the show. professor kathleen stock-her job as- of the show. professor kathleen stock-her job as a- of the show. professor kathleen stock her job as a lecturer stock quit her job as a lecturer at stock quit her job as a lecturer eh hhe— stock quit her job as a lecturer at the university— stock quit her job as a lecturer at the university of sussex in zom— at the university of sussex in zozh ehee— at the university of sussex in 2021 after abused raised 2021 after she was abused raised hee— 2021 after she was abused raised over her views.— 2021 after she was abused raised over her views. okay so this has peeved— over her views. okay so this has peewee he— over her views. okay so this has peewee he he— over her views. okay so this has peewee he he e— over her views. okay so this has proved to be a deeply controversial- proved to be a deeply controversial discussion that's eheh— controversial discussion that's eheeh he — controversial discussion that's about to take— controversial discussion that's about to take place in oxford. hheee— about to take place in oxford. hheee heve— about to take place in oxford. there have been— about to take place in oxford. there have been protests taking pheee— there have been protests taking pheee. we— there have been protests taking place. we through— there have been protests taking place. we through to those a hhhe— place. we through to those a hhhhhe hhh— place. we through to those a little bit earlier- place. we through to those a little bit earlier on. my epeheohee— little bit earlier on. my apologies that are unable to apologies that we are unable to

hhhe— apologies that we are unable to bring wee— apologies that we are unable to bring you-bf— apologies that we are unable to bring you-of what- apologies that we are unable to bring you of what was being bring you more of what was being eehe— bring you more of what was being eehe-heh— bring you more of what was being eehe-heh hheh— bring you more of what was being said-but that-just- said there, but that was just heee— said there, but that was just because everyone was swearing all_unfortunately,| all the time and unfortunately, hhhe—mew.- all the time and unfortunately, this show. believe this is a family show. believe it this is a family show. believe hh—eh— this is a family show. believe hh—eh wewe- this is a family show. believe it-gb news is- it or not. so gb news is hehheheh— it or not. so gb news is national reporter. theo chikomba hehe— national reporter. theo chikomba hehe-hem — national reporter. theo chikomba joins-from oxford.- joins us live from oxford. hepehhhw— joins us live from oxford. hopefully-no- joins us live from oxford.- hopefully-no swearing. hopefully there's no swearing. hhee— hopefully there's no swearing. hhee hhehh— hopefully there's no swearing. theo thank what's the theo thank you. what's the heheeh—eee- theo thank you. what's the latest—are ?- theo thank you. what's the| latest—are ? well theo thank you. what's the- latest_are ? well the latest where you are? well the heheeh— latest where you are? well the heheeh he— latest where you are? well the heheeh he ew— latest where you are? well the latest is now hundreds of eheehhe— latest is now hundreds of students are— latest is now hundreds of students are outside the student meh— students are outside the student where— students are outside the student union where professor kathleen sheeh— union where professor kathleen sheeh whhh— union where professor kathleen sheeh whhh he— union where professor kathleen stock will be speaking or peehepe— stock will be speaking or peehepe hee— stock will be speaking or perhaps has already started. �*" perhaps has already started. if we push— perhaps has already started. if we heh heh— perhaps has already started. if we just look over— perhaps has already started. if we just look over my- perhaps has already started. if we just look over my right- we just look over my right shoulder, hundreds of students are already here and they are chanting various things and they they're going to be here for the duration of this time. and as you can see, people are very passionate about this . and what passionate about this. and what they hope is that people can learn about what they want to achieve from this. so at the moment , they're going to be here moment, they're going to be here for some time. so it's extremely busy music, chanting and so much more . we are kindly joined by more. we are kindly joined by one of those people who shared a very passionate speech just

earlier on. so chrissy , thank earlier on. so chrissy, thank you so much for your time . if you so much for your time. if you so much for your time. if you just look look towards me and just tell me why you're here today and what you hope people can take from this . yeah, i'm can take from this. yeah, i'm here hehw— can take from this. yeah, i'm here today because- can take from this. yeah, i'm here today because it's- 22“ yeah, i'm here today because it's oxford hehe— here today because it's oxford hehe hhee— here today because it's oxford trans pride and— here today because it's oxford trans pride and it's a celebration- trans pride and it's a celebration of trans joy. we heve— celebration of trans joy. we hewe ee— celebration of trans joy. we have so much— celebration of trans joy. we have so much bad news about hehe— have so much bad news about hehe peephe— have so much bad news about trans people, scaremongering, heee— trans people, scaremongering, heee.— trans people, scaremongering, heee. hheoehee— trans people, scaremongering, fear , ignorance, hate . ' 2 e fear, ignorance, hate. and it's a celebration of trans joy, really. and what have you sort of made about what's happening here, particularly with the professor who's come here to be part of a debate when you when you listen to that phrase itself, a debate about trans existence, trans rights, if we were to talk about black people and debate your existence, how would you feel if you know, people frame it as the trans gender issue, the trans gender debate , the trans question . as debate, the trans question. as i say, if we were to ask that of black people or jewish people,

there would be outrage . and i am there would be outrage. and i am employed by a tiny church in oxford, saint columba's united reformed church, and i'm their outreach and development worker with transgender, intersex and non—binary people . in a six week non—binary people. in a six week penod non—binary people. in a six week period last year , i had three period last year, i had three young trans suicides and that explains some of the emotions, some of the anger that you can feel in this today. there is there is joy, but there's also a rage and an anger. if people die of natural causes , that's very of natural causes, that's very easy to accept in some ways in comparison to when we lose someone to suicide, when you lose somebody to suicide, the rage that you feel at the injustice is so deep. where do you take it ? injustice is so deep. where do you take it? and so a day like today, yes , we're celebrating today, yes, we're celebrating trans joy , but we're also trans joy, but we're also expressing some of the laments, some of the grief that we feel at the way that people are debating our existence , debating debating our existence, debating our rights . now, obviously, our rights. now, obviously, eeeemheee—

our rights. now, obviously, academics have— 2 2 2“: now, obviously, academics have their own whewpehhhe. — academics have their own viewpoints. they write research pepeee— viewpoints. they write research pepeee. hhew— viewpoints. they write research pepeee. hhew ee— viewpoints. they write research papers. they do all sorts of eheh— papers. they do all sorts of eheh eemhe— papers. they do all sorts of stuff during their time at universitv-_ stuff during their time at university. do— stuff during their time at university. do you think they ehhhh— university. do you think they ehhhh heve— university. do you think they ehhhh hewe e— university. do you think they still have a place to, you know, heve— still have a place to, you know, hewe eh— still have a place to, you know, have an opportunity to share eh— have an opportunity to share some of these— have an opportunity to share some of these views regardless of some of these views regardless eh whehhee— some of these views regardless of whether people _ some of these views regardless of whether people agree with hhem — of whether people agree with hhem ee— of whether people agree with them or not? _ of whether people agree with them or not? ' 222 “22“ them or not? absolutely. yeah. i don't think this is about being wrong. it's not about opposing freedom of speech. it's about it's about a dialogue. it's about a conversation and it's about a conversation and it's about listening to one another. and kathleen stock is part i think she was a founding member of lgb alliance . lgb dropped the of lgb alliance. lgb dropped the t, and yet she says she doesn't hate trans people . it's not very hate trans people. it's not very convincing, i'm afraid. if you set up a charity called lgb alliance, drop the t. i think most women are not opposed to trans people . i've got hundreds trans people. i've got hundreds of trans women friends of cisgender women friends, female friends , and i think it's a very friends, and i think it's a very small minority making a lot of

noise. the oxford union is a profit making organisation . it profit making organisation. it loves control , profit making organisation. it loves control, courting controversy . i think it's a very controversy. i think it's a very provocate kyiv thing to bring somebody in when there are probably in the region of nearly a thousand trans gender insects and non—binary students in oxford , they're under exam oxford, they're under exam pressure at the moment . but oxford, they're under exam pressure at the moment. but and for a young person to feel their existence is being debated, that they might not be able to go to they might not be able to go to the toilet. i mean, that's pretty brutal for a young person . and i think the university has been very thoughtless . acas been very thoughtless. acas i think we can uphold freedom of speech. think we can uphold freedom of speech . i come from a church speech. i come from a church background where we talk about blessing and cursing and you can blessing and cursing and you can bless people with your words or you can curse people with your words . and i think a lot of the words. and i think a lot of the anti—trans rhetoric, arguments, even the academic ones, they cause a lot of pain. they cause

a lot of damage and real damage in young people. and i think the university needs to balance freedom of speech with the pastoral care of their students. and i'm not sure they've got it right at the moment. and i'm not sure they've got it right at the moment . chrissy, right at the moment. chrissy, thank you so much for your time. well, as you heard there, this is well, as you heard there, this he eemehhhhe— well, as you heard there, this is something many people in this eemmehhhw— is something many people in this eemmehhhw eew— is something many people in this community say is— is something many people in this community say is important and heede— community say is important and heeee he— community say is important and heeee he he— community say is important and needs to be highlighted, peehheehehw— needs to be highlighted, particularly when it comes to eeeemheee— particularly when it comes to academics and— particularly when it comes to academics and what they say, peehheeheehw— academics and what they say, peehhepheehw hh— academics and what they say, particularly in their research as particularly in their research ee wehh. — particularly in their research ee wehh. ee— particularly in their research as well. so many of those people whee— as well. so many of those people who've come here— as well. so many of those people who've come here this afternoon whhh— who've come here this afternoon whhh he— who've come here this afternoon whhh he heee— who've come here this afternoon will be here during— who've come here this afternoon will be here during the duration of will be here during the duration eh hhe— will be here during the duration of the professor.— will be here during the duration of the professor. kathleen as ehe— of the professor. kathleen as ehe hhee— of the professor. kathleen as she takes part— of the professor. kathleen as she takes part in— of the professor. kathleen as she takes part in a debate hhehee— she takes part in a debate hhehee hhe— she takes part in a debate inside the student union. okay hheeh— inside the student union. okay hhehh vou— inside the student union. okay them you wew— inside the student union. okay thank you very much,- inside the student union. okay thank you very much, theo chikomba. our national reporter in oxford. well, i'm very pleased to say that joining me live in the studio is campaigner for dialogue. katie john went thank you so much. great to have you in. thank you. thank you so much. now can just read you much. now can i just read you a couple of things before we couple of things here before we pick on interview? pick up on our interview? so this is kathleen stock has this is what kathleen stock has had say . you've got male

had to say. you've got male rapists and female prisons that causes a lot upset . you've causes a lot of upset. you've got children transitioning, doing to bodies doing things to their bodies that take back, that that they can't take back, that causes their parents. causes upset to their parents. you've got huge numbers of women unable to talk about sex based rights in their workplaces because feel stifled. that because they feel stifled. that causes that is not really causes upset. that is not really a discussion about the existence of trans people as that individual was talking about there. that's more about women's safety and children's safety, is it not? yes. and those are all heehhhmehe— it not? yes. and those are all legitimate concerns- . “227 “22. and those are all legitimate concerns and . “2.7 “22. and those are all legitimate concerns and those are sex based— legitimate concerns and those are sex based concerns. ' “2 are sex based concerns. and hehhheeh— are sex based concerns. and kathleen herself has said she's not trying to kind of erase trans people. i've spoken to her eheeew— trans people. i've spoken to her eheeew hhhe— trans people. i've spoken to her already this morning— i've spoken to her already this morning and she eeheeeee— already this morning and she gendered me— already this morning and she gendered me as— already this morning and she gendered me as she i didn't eeheehhw— gendered me as she i didn't actually request— gendered me as she i didn't actually request any particular pepehem . heh— actually request any particular pronouns , but she was very pronouns, but she was very courteous. and- pronouns, but she was very courteous. and i- pronouns, but she was very courteous. '“2 pronouns, but she was very courteous. and i think it's entirely possible to have a discussion about things and still concerned about safety. still be concerned about safety. same with sport. be concerned about fairness in sport, be concerned about safety in prisons and women's spaces and the protection of children, and then have to overlay. and

then you have to overlay. and now how does gender intersect then you have to overlay. and now that? when nder intersect then you have to overlay. and now that? when her intersect then you have to overlay. and now that? when i lookitersect then you have to overlay. and now that? when i look at �*sect then you have to overlay. and now that? when i look at the with that? when i look at the eheehehe— with that? when i look at the absolute hysteria _ .“2.7 when i look at the absolute hysteria that's come out absolute hysteria that's come eeh-heeh— absolute hysteria that's come eeh-heeh eh- absolute hysteria that's come out back of people like out off the back of people like j-k- — out off the back of people like j-k- _th— out off the back of people like j.k. _for example,- j.k. rowling, for example, eewhhe— j.k. rowling, for example, eehe-hhhe.- j.k. rowling, for example, eewhhe-hhhe. h- j.k. rowling, for example, saying like, i would saying things like, i would eheh— saying things like, i would gladly .vocally- saying things like, i would gladly vocally assert the gladly and vocally assert the ehehhe— gladly and vocally assert the the ef— gladly and vocally assert the rights of trans— gladly and vocally assert the rights of trans-to- gladly and vocally assert the rights of trans to live rights of trans people to live hheh— rights of trans people to live hheh-hee — rights of trans people to live their-free from - rights of trans people to live their free from fear, their lives free from fear, whehehee — their lives free from fear, violence, harassment or any discrimination,— discrimination, etcetera, eheeheee— etcetera, etcetera. basically heee— etcetera, etcetera. basically eeee eh — etcetera, etcetera. basically eeee eh he — etcetera, etcetera. basically eeee eh he eew— etcetera, etcetera. basically goes on to say that she would even march-them- goes on to say that she would even march them if indeed even march with them if indeed she even march with them if indeed ehe-hheh— even march with them if indeed she .that-were- even march with them if indeed she that were being she felt that they were being discriminated— discriminated against. but fundamentally believes that fundamentally, she believes that her fundamentally, she believes that hee—ehepee- fundamentally, she believes that hee—ehepee hw- her life has been shaped by hehe— her life has been shaped by being heh— her life has been shaped by being born female . and the being born female. and the heehheeh— being born female. and the backlash of— being born female. and the backlash of that was that she's a backlash of that was that she's e hehephehe. — backlash of that was that she's a transphobe. she's a terf, ehe-e— a transphobe. she's a terf, ehe-e e. — a transphobe. she's a terf, she's a. she's— a transphobe. she's a terf, she's a. she's got death hheehe. — she's a. she's got death threats. and— she's a. she's got death threats. and then for give me. heh— threats. and then for give me. heh h— threats. and then for give me. heh h eheh-h— threats. and then for give me. but i don't see— threats. and then for give me. but i don't see the hyperbole on the but i don't see the hyperbole on hhe ehhee— but i don't see the hyperbole on the other side— but i don't see the hyperbole on the other side where people who heeheehhw— the other side where people who basically shout— the other side where people who basically shout similar stuff at hehe— basically shout similar stuff at hehe peephe. — basically shout similar stuff at hehe peephe. h— basically shout similar stuff at trans people. i mean, am i mheehhe— trans people. i mean, am i missing something here? . missing something here? is it i hhhhh— missing something here? is it i hhhhh hh— missing something here? is it i hhhhh h h— missing something here? is it i think if i occupy— missing something here? is it i think if i occupy kind of the centre ground of dialogue and of debate around this and being one of rare people are of the rare people who are willing to debate because five years many on the trans years back, many on the trans organisational said hashtag organisational side said hashtag no rights are not up no debate. our rights are not up for discussion. _ no debate. our rights are not up for discussion. .as- no debate. our rights are not up for discussion. .as the- for discussion. and as the contributor there from oxford

was you wouldn't contributor there from oxford was a you wouldn't contributor there from oxford was a debate you wouldn't contributor there from oxford was a debate about wouldn't contributor there from oxford was a debate about blackin't have a debate about black people's rights to exist, but obviously exist as trans obviously we do exist as trans people. already so in people. we already exist. so in that there isn't that respect there isn't a debate existence, debate about our existence, isn't debate about our isn't a debate about our intersection with the rights and spaces society. yes and spaces of society. yes and that's what's going to happen. but i if go back to but i mean, if you go back to j.k. rowling and what she said and people over the last, and other people over the last, say, 3 5 years, you will find say, 3 to 5 years, you will find they what i would call , you they made what i would call, you know, questions know, reasonable questions because was and this is where i put my hand in the air, not necessarily me, but i do think people on my side. and anyway, people on my side. and anyway, people are trans, we kind of people who are trans, we kind of came down hard on even those questions. and instead of giving them the space to say, you know what, how would this work out? why is it like this in prison? how we negotiate space and how do we negotiate space and society and the way we kind of came down hard on jk rowling now, meant and ding now, this meant and then ding ding, after first round of ding, after that first round of fighting, come out, doubled fighting, they come out, doubled down hard knock you down twice as hard knock you obviously then people weren't straight death threats straight away with death threats and all this stuff and well,

and all of this stuff and well, there's discussion there. there's no discussion there. and think that's what a lot of and i think that's what a lot of peephe— and i think that's what a lot of peephe ee— and i think that's what a lot of people are concerned about. can i people are concerned about. can h eeh— people are concerned about. can h eeh e— people are concerned about. can i ask a question— people are concerned about. can i ask a question now about about memeh—hehe- mental health? we heard from eheheew— mental health? we heard from eheheew-eewhhe- mental health? we heard from chrissy saying they had to chrissy there saying they had to hheeh— chrissy there saying they had to eeeh whhh— chrissy there saying they had to eeeh whhh e— chrissy there saying they had to deal with a few— chrissy there saying they had to deal with a few recent trans eeheheee— deal with a few recent trans suicides and— deal with a few recent trans suicides and this is one of the big— suicides and this is one of the big hhhhee— suicides and this is one of the big things that— suicides and this is one of the big things that usually comes out big things that usually comes eeh hheh— big things that usually comes eeh hheh ehe— big things that usually comes out that and it— big things that usually comes out that and it is— big things that usually comes out that and it is used as an exemphe— out that and it is used as an example often— out that and it is used as an example often of— out that and it is used as an example often of how trans peephe— example often of how trans peephe ee— example often of how trans people are discriminated against or people are discriminated against eh eheeee— people are discriminated against eh eheeee .— people are discriminated against or abused . and— people are discriminated against or abused . and their their lives or abused. and their their lives are or abused. and their their lives heoheehhw— or abused. and their their lives are tragically ended too soon. is are tragically ended too soon. he hh— are tragically ended too soon. he hh heh— are tragically ended too soon. is it not reasonable to suspect hheh— is it not reasonable to suspect hheh hhehe— is it not reasonable to suspect that there may— is it not reasonable to suspect that there may be— is it not reasonable to suspect that there may be some pee—exhehhhe— that there may be some pre—existing mental health eh— pre—existing mental health issues at play— pre—existing mental health issues at play there? is it all heee— issues at play there? is it all heee hhew— issues at play there? is it all because they are— issues at play there? is it all because they are trans and they are because they are trans and they hhhe— because they are trans and they are killing themselves because of are killing themselves because eh hhe— are killing themselves because eh hhe wew— are killing themselves because eh hhe wew hhe— are killing themselves because of the way the society is heehhhe— of the way the society is treating them - of the way the society is treating them ? �*fh�*2;.. of the way the society is- treating them ? well, that's the treating them? well, that's the kind of thing they don't put on the suicide death certificate. i'm someone who survived suicide, but not because i was trans. it was a socioeconomic matter at the time. yes, i'm also a person, which also a bipolar person, which means tend have slightly means i tend to have slightly exaggerated responses to things in fact in life. so the very fact that i can my bipolar and can tone down my bipolar and hold a debate with is hold a debate with anyone is quite amazing anyway. but no, but being, yes,

but the point being, yes, we know for a fact now, particularly amongst the kind of the younger people coming into gender identity clinics, that there are many other things going on besides that. there's a huge amounts of neurodiversity and autistic spectrum, something like 26. there's like 26. wow. there's a additional cohort oddity. i hate the word comorbidity because it's got the word morbid in it. but the additional kind of basket of other things going on includes mental health, includes neurodiversity, include moods, challenges and questions over everything from sexuality to faith . and what i think is a faith. and what i think is a dilemma is we don't have a safe to space question things. there isn't level of isn't the same level of psychiatric, psychological and therapeutic support to question that i had when i came out. 17 years, you're going to get hate hem— years, you're going to get hate hem hhe— years, you're going to get hate from the trans— years, you're going to get hate from the trans community for eewhhe— from the trans community for eewhho hhhe. — from the trans community for saying this. i'm— from the trans community for saying this. 22.. “2 . saying this. i'm getting it at the moment twitter. so the moment through twitter. so who so who's more hateful? well, i'm getting it from both ehee.— well, i'm getting it from both eheee. — well, i'm getting it from both eheee. heh-h— well, i'm getting it from both sides. don't get— well, i'm getting it from both sides. don't get me- well, i'm getting it from both sides. j2“ . 22;. 2 well, i'm getting it from both sides. j“ . 22;. 2 22;. sides. don't get me wrong. i get hate from both sides. and being able to step back from both

sides, i'm also able to observe the degree to which both sides are using the same language of each so both sides each other. so today, both sides are particular kind are seeing one particular kind of thread where both sides called each other cult. well, called each other a cult. well, glad thought . i glad you said cult thought. i ehehehehee— glad you said cult thought. i enunciated one— glad you said cult thought. enunciated one correctly. i don't need i don't need another one. go grief. okay. all right. heh-e— one. go grief. okay. all right. heh-e 90— one. go grief. okay. all right. heh-e 9° beeh— one. go grief. okay. all right. let's go back over— one. go grief. okay. all right. let's go back over my- one. go grief. okay. all right. let's go back over my bloopers reel. i haven't said that one yet. it's the first time for ewewhhhho. — yet. it's the first time for everything. all- «2. it's the first time for everything. 2 2“. yet. it's the first time for- everything. all right. but also, the both sides have called each others. both sides have called each sides others. both sides have called each called sides others. both sides have called each called each sides others. both sides have called each called each other sides others. both sides have called each called each other narrow have called each other narrow minded. okay. you know, and both sides have called each other extreme, right wing, when actually the majority of the debate in uk at least, is debate in the uk at least, is actually on the left. i think in america it's slightly different. there's from there's a lot more coming from the conservative christian right. majority the conservative christian rigthe majority the conservative christian rigthe discussing ority the conservative christian rigthe discussing itity the conservative christian rigthe discussing it are of the people discussing it are mostly voters. you know, mostly labour voters. you know, other don't care other voters probably don't care because ourselves because we're tearing ourselves apart over it. yeah, indeed. hheeh— apart over it. yeah, indeed. hhehh wee— apart over it. yeah, indeed. hhehh wee wew.— apart over it. yeah, indeed. thank you very, very- . yeah, indeed. thank you very, very much. i hehe— thank you very, very much. i hehe hhhe— thank you very, very much. i found this enlightening and epiewehhe— found this enlightening and enjoyable. really appreciate enjoyable. i really appreciate weh— enjoyable. i really appreciate your-appreciate- your time. i appreciate you eemhe— your time. i appreciate you coming hopefully your time. i appreciate you- coming-hopefully-talk coming in. hopefully we'll talk eeehh— coming in. hopefully we'll talk eheh—he- coming in. hopefully we'll talk eheh—he hehhei again very, very soon. as katie hhh— again very, very soon. as katie hehe-hhehe— again very, very soon. as katie john-there, who's- john went there, who's a eempehohee— john went there, who's a campaigner dialogue. and campaigner for dialogue. and

hhhe— campaigner for dialogue. and hhhe-eemee.— campaigner for dialogue. and this-course, .this - campaigner for dialogue. and this course, this big, this is, of course, of this big, controversial, _ this is, of course, of this big, controversial, controversial ewehh— controversial, controversial ewehhhehhhe— controversial, controversial event taking place in oxford at the event taking place in oxford at hhe-wheee— event taking place in oxford at the where kathleen stock the moment where kathleen stock peeheeeee— the moment where kathleen stock peeheeeee-sheeh— the moment where kathleen stock professor-stock is- professor kathleen stock is hhhe— professor kathleen stock is hehhhhe—hewi talking possibly right now. heheehhw— talking possibly right now. actually and _ talking possibly right now. actually and been talking possibly right now. - actually and-been seen actually and this has been seen peeheehe— actually and this has been seen peeheehe eh— actually and this has been seen protests on both— actually and this has been seen protests on both sides of the he — protests on both sides of the he heh— protests on both sides of the he heh hh— protests on both sides of the fence. but in other news, civil eewehhe— fence. but in other news, civil servants could— fence. but in other news, civil servants could go— fence. but in other news, civil servants could go on strike if he— servants could go on strike if hhew ee— servants could go on strike if they are forced— servants could go on strike if they are forced to implement the oeeemhh-eh— they are forced to implement the government's rwanda plan . and government's rwanda plan. and whe— government's rwanda plan. and whe ee— government's rwanda plan. and whe he hhew— government's rwanda plan. and who do they think— government's rwanda plan. and who do they think they are? and ehee— who do they think they are? and ehee .— who do they think they are? and ehee . whe— who do they think they are? and also , who better— who do they think they are? and also , who better to talk to this also, who better to talk to this eheeh— also, who better to talk to this eheeh hheh— also, who better to talk to this about than the— also, who better to talk to this about than the man you are going to about than the man you are going he eee— about than the man you are going he eh— about than the man you are going he eh weh— about than the man you are going to see on your screens in lo see on your screens in a mehhee— lo see on your screens in a mehhee eh— to see on your screens in a matter of moments ? it's jacob matter of moments? it's jacob heee—heee.— matter of moments? it's jacob heee—heee. hm— matter of moments? it's jacob rees—mogg. i'm patrick christys on rees—mogg. i'm patrick christys eh eh— rees—mogg. i'm patrick christys eh eh wewe— rees—mogg. i'm patrick christys on gb news, britain's news

i've completely derailed the conversation. _ i've completely derailed the conversation. “ conversation. join me monday to thursday at 8 pm. on . gb news. thursday at 8 pm. on. gb news. massive story this. okay are we whhheeehhe— massive story this. okay are we whhheeehhe e— massive story this. okay are we witnessing a civil— massive story this. okay are we witnessing a civil service coup hheh— witnessing a civil service coup hheh hehhhw— witnessing a civil service coup hheh hehhhw .— witnessing a civil service coup that frankly , i— witnessing a civil service coup that frankly , i think is that frankly, i think is massively— that frankly, i think is massively anti—democratic ? civil massively anti—democratic? civil eewehhe— massively anti—democratic? civil servants could— massively anti—democratic? civil servants could actually go on ehhhe— servants could actually go on ehhhe h— servants could actually go on strike if that- servants could actually go on strike if that forced to do hheh— strike if that forced to do hheh reh — strike if that forced to do their job and— strike if that forced to do theirjob and implement the eeemmeh-e— theirjob and implement the government's rwanda plan . who on government's rwanda plan. who on eemh— government's rwanda plan. who on eehh ee— government's rwanda plan. who on eehh he he— government's rwanda plan. who on earth do they think— government's rwanda plan. who on earth do they think they are? hhehe— earth do they think they are? hheh-e hhe— earth do they think they are? that's the question that i'm going— that's the question that i'm going he— that's the question that i'm going he he— that's the question that i'm going to be putting to jacob heee—heee.— going to be putting to jacob rees—mogg, home office staff eeehe— rees—mogg, home office staff eeehe ehhhe— rees—mogg, home office staff could strike again if forced to hmphemehh— could strike again if forced to implement this— could strike again if forced to implement this bill. a union ehheheh— implement this bill. a union official says— implement this bill. a union official says there's no official says this. there's no ehemeeh— official says this. there's no stomach amongst our members to sit stomach amongst our members to ehh-ehe— stomach amongst our members to ehh-ehe eeeeph— stomach amongst our members to sit and accept measures sit back and accept measures hhew— sit back and accept measures hhew hehhewe— sit back and accept measures they believe . be _ sit back and accept measures they believe be unlawful. they believe to be unlawful. wew.— they believe to be unlawful. war, hhehe— they believe to be unlawful. well, that's cute, mate. i'm eheh— well, that's cute, mate. i'm afraid because _ well, that's cute, mate. i'm afraid because the high court eeeeh-h— afraid because the high court eeeeh-h-hh-e— afraid because the high court doesn't it's unlawful. in doesn't think it's unlawful. in heh.— doesn't think it's unlawful. in heh-ee— doesn't think it's unlawful. in fact,-do think- doesn't think it's unlawful. in fact,-do think it- doesn't think it's unlawful. in fact, do think it is fact, they do think it is hewhh— fact, they do think it is lawful. wouldn't fact, they do think it is lawful..wouldn't first lawful. it wouldn't be the first hhme — lawful. it wouldn't be the first time - servants - lawful. it wouldn't be the first time servants have time that civil servants have wehee— time that civil servants have wehhee—hehl time that civil servants have- walked_but should walked out, would it? but should he— walked out, would it? but should hhew he— walked out, would it? but should hhew he ephe— walked out, would it? but should hhew he ehhe he— walked out, would it? but should they be able to obstruct government— they be able to obstruct government let's they be able to obstruct- government-let's bring government policy? let's bring reeeh—rehheei jacob in, shall we? i'm joined hw— jacob in, shall we? i'm joined thwewe— jacob in, shall we? i'm joined now by news, very own and

now by gb news, very own and eeheewehhwe— now by gb news, very own and conservative mp— now by gb news, very own and conservative mp rees—mogg. conservative mp jacob rees—mogg. jacobe— conservative mp jacob rees—mogg. heh—meeh.- jacob, thank you very much. hheeh— jacob, thank you very much. eheh—eh- jacob, thank you very much. . great—on-show. great to have you on the show. is great to have you on the show. he hhhe— great to have you on the show. is this nothing— great to have you on the show. is this nothing short of a eppehhhhe— is this nothing short of a appalling civil service coup ? appalling civil service coup? weh— appalling civil service coup? wehh hh— appalling civil service coup? well it seems— appalling civil service coup? well it seems to— appalling civil service coup? well it seems to me that you eee-h— well it seems to me that you eeh-h 90— well it seems to me that you eeh-h 90 ep— well it seems to me that you can't go on strike— well it seems to me that you can't go on strike as a civil eewehh— can't go on strike as a civil eewehh h— can't go on strike as a civil servant if you _ can't go on strike as a civil servant if you don't like government— servant if you don't like government policy. /2:2. servant if you don't like- government policy. you have to resign— government policy. you have to resign and that any civil servant who claims to strike on the basis of opposition to government policy who doesn't resign should be fired, that this is not it like going on strike over pay or conditions or anything like this. it's a fundamental opposition to the whole basis of our constitution that has an apolitical civil service that carries out the lawful instructions of the elected government. any home office civil servant who fails to do that should be fired and presumably have their generous pension stripped off them as well. jacob well, it should be a eheehphhhew— well. jacob well, it should be a disciplinary matter,— jacob well, it should be a disciplinary matter, absolutely . they— disciplinary matter, absolutely . they should— disciplinary matter, absolutely . they should lose- disciplinary matter, absolutely . they should lose benefits that they get from their employment for doing it. this is really very important that the whole

bafis very important that the whole basis of our apolitical civil service is it carries out the instructions of the elected government. if it fails to do that, then our constitution doesn't operate properly . so doesn't operate properly. so it's a fundamental threat to our democratic system . it's very democratic system. it's very serious and a civil servant who does this or proposes this should not be part of the civil service. and if they don't like the policy, they should resign and stand for elective office opposing it, not try and obstruct it in an unconscious manner. ah, the conservative party and the people who have voted consistently for controlled immigration and a reduction of illegal immigration and the latest polling data which as far as i can gather, shows that around 48% of people support the rwanda plan are all of these people now at war with our civil service well, we'll have to see whether they actually vote for a strike. there are some hard left members of the civil service union who are like the train drivers union

that they want to bring down the elected government . that is elected government. that is their aim. i hope that that is not true across the civil service at large and that civil servants will disassociate themselves with this hard left union that doesn't keir starmer if indeed this takes place, have to actually come out against this kind of strike action because good grief. i mean, this is the because good grief. i mean, this he hhe hhhe— because good grief. i mean, this is the fabric of— because good grief. i mean, this is the fabric of our— 2 22 22 i mean, this is the fabric of our democracy, heh-h— is the fabric of our democracy, heh-h hhe— is the fabric of our democracy, isn't it? civil— is the fabric of our democracy, isn't it? civil servants are here— isn't it? civil servants are here he— isn't it? civil servants are there to facilitate the work of oeweehmehh— there to facilitate the work of government and _ there to facilitate the work of government and a democratically eheehee— government and a democratically elected government and keir sheme— elected government and keir starmer could— elected government and keir starmer could find himself on the starmer could find himself on hhe wehe— starmer could find himself on the wrong side— starmer could find himself on the wrong side of— starmer could find himself on the wrong side of this if he eeeeh-h— the wrong side of this if he doesn't oppose— the wrong side of this if he doesn't oppose this behaviour. weh— doesn't oppose this behaviour. wehh h— doesn't oppose this behaviour. wehh h eeehh— doesn't oppose this behaviour. well i doubt he- doesn't oppose this behaviour. well i doubt he would because hhee-e— well i doubt he would because hheee-e e— well i doubt he would because hheee-e e heh— well i doubt he would because there's a lot of— well i doubt he would because there's a lot of left wingers in he— there's a lot of left wingers in hhe ehwhh— there's a lot of left wingers in the civil service— there's a lot of left wingers in the civil service and not a hheeh— the civil service and not a eeeeh hheeh— the civil service and not a great deal of— the civil service and not a great deal of right wing erie ehe— great deal of right wing erie ehe-mhe— great deal of right wing erie and-mind sir- great deal of right wing erie and mind sir keir tried and bear in mind sir keir tried to and bear in mind sir keir tried he ehoeee— and bear in mind sir keir tried he eheeee see— and bear in mind sir keir tried to engage sue gray whilst she hh— to engage sue gray whilst she hh eehhwe— to engage sue gray whilst she was in active service civil eewehh— was in active service civil servant investigating boris rehheeh. — servant investigating boris johnson. and— servant investigating boris johnson. “2 servant investigating boris johnson. ““2 servant investigating boris johnson. and we have to think that his approach to the civil service is pretty irresponsible. is the civil service actively corrupt at. i blame the union. i

mean, as a minister i worked with many excellent civil servants who, regardless of their political opinions , were their political opinions, were very happy to carry out government policy . that is our government policy. that is our tradition. going back to the northcote—trevelyan reforms , and northcote—trevelyan reforms, and that's the basis of our constitutional settlement between government and the between the government and the civil service. if they won't carry out the norms of the constitution , then then we will constitution, then then we will have to move in a more australian or american direction with more politicised civil with a more politicised civil service that will become the only option . okay, just talk me only option. okay, just talk me hheeeeh— only option. okay, just talk me hheeeeh hheh— only option. okay, just talk me through that then. _ :“ okay, just talk me through that then. our viewers ehe— through that then. our viewers ehe eee— through that then. our viewers and our listeners— through that then. our viewers and our listeners through that. heee— because if people are sitting here— because if people are sitting heee—hey- because if people are sitting here—day that. because if people are sittingi here—day that the here now on the day that the hehe — here now on the day that the news broke that— here now on the day that the news broke that 80 album, an hhehe— news broke that 80 album, an hehe hhhz— news broke that 80 album, an indie ulez criminals, some of whem— indie ulez criminals, some of whom .murderer- indie ulez criminals, some of whom murderer gangs, drug whom are murderer gangs, drug hheehee— whom are murderer gangs, drug eeheeeme-- dealers, firearm arms traffickers, - dealers, firearm arms traffickers, rapists , some of traffickers, rapists, some of whem — traffickers, rapists, some of whem ehee— traffickers, rapists, some of whom also crossed the channel whheh— whom also crossed the channel whheh eh— whom also crossed the channel which of course— whom also crossed the channel which of course the rwanda eehee— which of course the rwanda eehee he— which of course the rwanda scheme is designed to try to ehep— scheme is designed to try to ehep peephe— scheme is designed to try to stop people from crossing the ehemeh— stop people from crossing the channel-have- stop people from crossing the channel have been channel like this have been eehheheee— channel like this have been sentenced-a— channel like this have been sentenced a grand total of sentenced to a grand total of he— sentenced to a grand total of he wehe— sentenced to a grand total of he weeee h— sentenced to a grand total of 130 years in the— sentenced to a grand total of 130 years in the first four memhe— 130 years in the first four months-this- 130 years in the first four months this year alone. okay. months of this year alone. okay. so months of this year alone. okay. sewe—e— months of this year alone. okay. so_were waking- months of this year alone. okay. so_were waking up. so people are were waking up to this so people are were waking up to hhhe-hehw— so people are were waking up to hhhe-heeew ehe— so people are were waking up to this today and they're also this news today and they're also

hehe— this news today and they're also now being confronted with a ehhehheh— now being confronted with a situation where _ now being confronted with a situation where the civil sewhee— situation where the civil service appears to not want to ehep— service appears to not want to ehep — eheh. - service appears to not want to stop _ stuff. what. stop any of that stuff. what wehe— stop any of that stuff. what would alternatives be? what stop any of that stuff. what wouldthe alternatives be? what stop any of that stuff. what wouldthe conservative be? what could the conservative government - could the conservative government get their could the conservative- government-get their ideas government do to get their ideas and government do to get their ideas ehe-hheh— government do to get their ideas and _their planes- government do to get their ideas and their planes off and crucially, their planes off the and crucially, their planes off hhe hheehe— and crucially, their planes off hhe ground e — and crucially, their planes off the ground ? �*th2;.. and crucially, their planes off the ground ? 3222. :“ and crucially, their planes off the ground ? �*th2;.. :“ ' 2 the ground? well, in america, when a new government comes in, great swathes of the civil service are reappointed on a political basis . they political basis. they republicans appoint republicans to carry out their policy. they don't have a tradition of an apolitical civil service as our system has served us well in recent decades . but if the civil recent decades. but if the civil service won't go along with it, we will have to look at a more politicised civil service that will simply become inevitable and i think many people across the country see many of our viewers will be absolutely appalled that the civil service no longer wants to do their job. they don't want to go into work. they don't want to go into work. they don't want to go into work. they don't want to do the job when in work. and when they are in work. and they've to trade union that they've got to trade union that seems to want to get the pay for doing return. well, i doing nothing in return. well, i did float earlier. jacob- 22 “2 “2 :“ well, i did float earlier. jacob about he— did float earlier. jacob about hhe heee— did float earlier. jacob about the idea that— did float earlier. jacob about the idea that if- did float earlier. jacob about the idea that if they're all weehhhe— the idea that if they're all working-home,- the idea that if they're all working home, lot of

the idea that if they're all- working-home,llot of them working from home, a lot of them whhh— working from home, a lot of them whhh-e— working from home, a lot of them whhh-e epeee— working from home, a lot of them will-a spare room.- working from home, a lot of them will a spare room. and will have a spare room. and i here— will have a spare room. and i here eew— will have a spare room. and i here eew-h— will have a spare room. and i dare say-if they- will have a spare room. and i dare say if they were asked dare say that if they were asked to accommodate— dare say that if they were asked to accommodate a— dare say that if they were asked to accommodate a channel meemh.— to accommodate a channelj mheeeph—hhe migrant, their views on the hwehee— migrant, their views on the hwehee pehhew— migrant, their views on the rwanda policy change rwanda policy would change hhhe— rwanda policy would change rather quickly.— rwanda policy would change rather quickly. but just in herme— rather quickly. but just ini heme—eheh terms of another big story for us terms of another big story for ee-reeeh.— terms of another big story for ee-reeeh. h— terms of another big story for us-jacob, if that's- terms of another big story for us jacob, if that's okay, us today, jacob, if that's okay, eheh— us today, jacob, if that's okay, can stock talking— us today, jacob, if that's okay, can stock talking at oxford whheh— can stock talking at oxford whheh ehe— can stock talking at oxford union and this— can stock talking at oxford union and this caused a huge union and this has caused a huge emem— union and this has caused a huge emeehh—heeee- amount of controversy based eehe— amount of controversy based emehe-hheh- amount of controversy based around-that she- amount of controversy based around that she thinks amount of controversy based arou women that she thinks amount of controversy based arou women that sheand �*iks amount of controversy based arou women that sheand men are that women are women and men are men-heee— that women are women and men are men-hheee eewe— that women are women and men are men-hheee eewe wee- that women are women and men are men these days you can't men which these days you can't go eehe— men which these days you can't go eehe eewhhe— men which these days you can't go around saying stuff like that whhheeh— go around saying stuff like that whhheeh hhe— go around saying stuff like that without the, as— go around saying stuff like that without the, as i— go around saying stuff like that without the, as i them, without the, as i call them, hehe— without the, as i call them, hehe meth— without the, as i call them, trans mafia getting involved. why— trans mafia getting involved. why—hhhe- trans mafia getting involved. why—hhhe he- trans mafia getting involved.- why_this is causing why do you think this is causing so _controversy?_ why do you think this is causing so _controversy?.you. so much controversy? do you eeppeh— so much controversy? do you support what support kathleen stockholm? what wehe— support kathleen stockholm? what weehe—hheee— support kathleen stockholm? what would those people support kathleen stockholm? what wou|are those people support kathleen stockholm? what wou|are there those people support kathleen stockholm? what wou|are there shouting people support kathleen stockholm? what wou|are there shouting and ple who are there shouting and eweeehhe— who are there shouting and eweeehhe eh— who are there shouting and swearing at her? 3222. .. 2 who are there shouting and swearing at her? �*th2;.. .. 2 swearing at her? well, i used to be an officer of the oxford union when i was a student, and i'm a trustee of its parent charity. so i fully support the invitation to her and her right to go. and i actually agree with her views, which i don't think are particularly controversial. i think there's only a small number people get very number of people who get very exercised about this who will be protesting. it's quite right that should go express that she should go and express her reasonable okay. and her reasonable views. okay. and just just finally, jacob, on this , how much do you think it

this, how much do you think it could undermine just the very fabnc could undermine just the very fabric of society if indeed we've spoken about some kind of infiltration in the civil service what about infiltration in service what about infiltration hh eee— service what about infiltration in our education— 2.2; what about infiltration in our education system ? is the in our education system? is the eeehhhw— in our education system? is the eeehhhw hhe— in our education system? is the reality the sad— in our education system? is the reality the sad reality that hehwe— reality the sad reality that hehe eee— reality the sad reality that before our very— reality the sad reality that before our very noses as our key hhehhhhhehe— before our very noses as our key institutions and— before our very noses as our key institutions and the— before our very noses as our key institutions and the key ways in whheh— institutions and the key ways in whheh hhhe— institutions and the key ways in which this country— institutions and the key ways in which this country functions heve— which this country functions hewe heee— which this country functions have been infiltrated by people whhh— have been infiltrated by people whhh e— have been infiltrated by people with a radical— have been infiltrated by people with a radical woke , left wing with a radical woke, left wing hheeheew— with a radical woke, left wing heeeheew .— with a radical woke, left wing heeeheew . hhe— with a radical woke, left wing ideology . and we are now seeing ideology. and we are now seeing the ideology. and we are now seeing hhe hehhheh— ideology. and we are now seeing the fruition of— ideology. and we are now seeing the fruition of that— ideology. and we are now seeing the fruition of that . 2 the fruition of that. actually, i the fruition of that. actually, h hhhhh— the fruition of that. actually, h hhhhh we— the fruition of that. actually, i think we can be a bit more cheerful that oxford university has behaved very well over this as supported free speech, which has a large number of people at the university have spoken out in favour of this stock. actually going to give her talk . there are a few random ne'er do wells at the oxford university student union, which is a very second rate body that nobody takes much notice of that have complaining. but other have been complaining. but other than that, it's been actually a victory for freedom of speech.

so have some confidence in at least some of our institutions. they're not all rotten . i will they're not all rotten. i will do. and sorry, jacob,- they're not all rotten. i will do. and sorry, jacob, i- “25 ”2; iwill do. and sorry, jacob, i just eemhheee— do. and sorry, jacob, i just reminded of— do. and sorry, jacob, i just reminded of this. any update as to reminded of this. any update as he wheh— reminded of this. any update as he wheh eh— reminded of this. any update as to what on earth— reminded of this. any update as to what on earth is— reminded of this. any update as to what on earth is going on whhh— to what on earth is going on whhh hehe— to what on earth is going on with boris johnson and the whehehpp— with boris johnson and the whatsapp messages and them not hehe— whatsapp messages and them not hehe eem— whatsapp messages and them not being sent through— whatsapp messages and them not being sent through and all of hhhee— being sent through and all of he he— being sent through and all of he he wee— being sent through and all of this? do you know what's heppehhho— this? do you know what's happening there ? i don't i'm not happening there? i don't i'm not ehwheew— happening there? i don't i'm not sure anybody else— happening there? i don't i'm not sure anybody else does either. it sure anybody else does either. hh seeme— sure anybody else does either. hh he— sure anybody else does either. it seems to be— sure anybody else does either. it seems to be a— sure anybody else does either. it seems to be a faintly- sure anybody else does either. it seems to be a faintly chaotic situation between the cabinet office and this endless inquiry . well, luckily, i enjoy eewehhhhe— . well, luckily, i enjoy revelling in— well, luckily, i enjoy revelling in chaos. jacob, as you— revelling in chaos. jacob, as wee ee— revelling in chaos. jacob, as wee hehh. — revelling in chaos. jacob, as you can tell. so— revelling in chaos. jacob, as you can tell. so thank you very meeh. — you can tell. so thank you very meeh. h— you can tell. so thank you very meeh. h heeh— you can tell. so thank you very much. i look forward to seeing you— much. i look forward to seeing wee eh— much. i look forward to seeing wee eh hhe— much. i look forward to seeing you on the telly— much. i look forward to seeing you on the telly later. jacob heee—heee.— you on the telly later. jacob rees—mogg, the— you on the telly later. jacob rees—mogg, the conservative mp and rees—mogg, the conservative mp ehe-newe— rees—mogg, the conservative mp ehe-wewelweew— rees—mogg, the conservative mp and . news-very own - rees—mogg, the conservative mp and news very own right. and gb news is very own right. chew.— and gb news is very own right. chew-eheh— and gb news is very own right. ohewleheew eh— and gb news is very own right. okay,-story on .way- and gb news is very own right. okay, story on way a okay, big story on the way a hhhe— okay, big story on the way a little later— okay, big story on the way a little later this- okay, big story on the way a little later this hour as it eeeee— little later this hour as it emereee-e— little later this hour as it emerges-a top- little later this hour as it emerges a top cabinet emerges that a top cabinet ehheheh— emerges that a top cabinet official who- emerges that a top cabinet official who gave boris rehheeh-e— official who gave boris johnson's diaries to the police ehe— johnson's diaries to the police ehe privileged— johnson's diaries to the police and privileged committee has a eheee— and privileged committee has a eheee hmhhw— and privileged committee has a close family link— and privileged committee has a close family link to the committee's— close family link to the committee's chair. harriet hermeh— committee's chair. harriet harman. this— committee's chair. harriet harman. this news i am reading hr— harman. this news i am reading hr hhe— harman. this news i am reading now for the first— harman. this news i am reading now for the first time, let's reet— now for the first time, let's reee hheh— now for the first time, let's read that again.— now for the first time, let's read that again. big story on he— read that again. big story on hhe wew— read that again. big story on hhe wew heher— read that again. big story on the way later this hour, it's

emerged— the way later this hour, it's emerged that— the way later this hour, it's emerged that a— the way later this hour, it's emerged that a top cabinet ehheheh— emerged that a top cabinet official who- emerged that a top cabinet official who gave boris rehheeh-e— official who gave boris johnson's diaries to the police ehe— johnson's diaries to the police ehe hhe— johnson's diaries to the police and the privileged committee has and the privileged committee has e eheee— and the privileged committee has eeheee hmhhw— and the privileged committee has a close family link— and the privileged committee has a close family link to the committee's— a close family link to the committee's chair. harriet hermen— committee's chair. harriet harman, let— committee's chair. harriet harman, let that sink in. i will wee— harman, let that sink in. i will wee hr— harman, let that sink in. i will see you for more— harman, let that sink in. i will see you for more on that. the ehher— see you for more on that. the ehher ehee— see you for more on that. the other side of— see you for more on that. the other side of the— see you for more on that. the other side of the headlines with hehhehw— other side of the headlines with hehhehw hheew— other side of the headlines with hehhehw hheew .— other side of the headlines with bethany elsey . patrick, thank bethany elsey. patrick, thank wee. — bethany elsey. patrick, thank wee. here-e— bethany elsey. patrick, thank you. here's your— bethany elsey. patrick, thank you. 222; 2 bethany elsey. patrick, thank you. 2 you. here's your latest from the gb newsroom at 5:30. downing street has denied claims of a cover up over the release of former prime minister boris johnson's whatsapp messages to the covid inquiry. the inquiry has now extended the deadline for the government to hand over the unredacted messages to thursday. the cabinet office previously argued the material was irrelevant . but labours was irrelevant. but labours deputy leader angela rayner says the delaying tactics show the government has a lot to hide . government has a lot to hide. russia's president has blamed ukraine for a rare drone strike on moscow, saying it was an attempt to scare and provoke

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that matter . us look, just that matter. us look, just a remhheer— that matter. us look, just a remhheer er— that matter. us look, just a reminder of what— that matter. us look, just a reminder of what i- look, just a reminder of what i inform you of. reminder of what i inform you eh hehe— reminder of what i inform you eh hehre we— reminder of what i inform you of. before we heard from bethany hhere— of. before we heard from bethany hhere. whheh— of. before we heard from bethany there, which is— of. before we heard from bethany there, which is an— of. before we heard from bethany there, which is an astonishing rewehehhep— there, which is an astonishing revelation. if— there, which is an astonishing revelation. if true, we'll be oehhhhe— revelation. if true, we'll be eehhhho he— revelation. if true, we'll be getting to grips— revelation. if true, we'll be getting to grips with it with the getting to grips with it with hhe ehep— getting to grips with it with hhe ehep whe — getting to grips with it with the chap who actually got hold of the chap who actually got hold er hhhe— the chap who actually got hold of this exclusive— the chap who actually got hold of this exclusive christine heehh — of this exclusive christine heehh hem — of this exclusive christine koski from the- of this exclusive christine koski from the express in just a mere— koski from the express in just a mehher er— koski from the express in just a matter of moments, which epperephhw— matter of moments, which apparently, apparently is that the individual- apparently, apparently is that the individual who handed boris rehheeh-e— the individual who handed boris johnson's personal diaries over to johnson's personal diaries over he he— johnson's personal diaries over he hhe pehhee— johnson's personal diaries over to the police and— johnson's personal diaries over to the police and to the cabinet hhehee— to the police and to the cabinet hhhee he— to the police and to the cabinet office is indeed- to the police and to the cabinet office is indeed close friends whhh— office is indeed close friends with harriet— office is indeed close friends with harriet harman . that is the with harriet harman. that is the hheeh— with harriet harman. that is the heheeh hheh— with harriet harman. that is the latest that we're _ with harriet harman. that is the latest that we're getting here. why— latest that we're getting here. whw eh — latest that we're getting here. whw eh eerhh— latest that we're getting here. why on earth does this imply eehehh— why on earth does this imply more detail on— why on earth does this imply more detail on that? but i'm hehhhhe— more detail on that? but i'm hehhhhe your— more detail on that? but i'm telling you, that's the kind of eherw— telling you, that's the kind of eherw hheh— telling you, that's the kind of story that will— telling you, that's the kind of story that will find its way ehhe — story that will find its way ehhe hhe — story that will find its way onto the front— story that will find its way onto the front pages tomorrow. heh— onto the front pages tomorrow. heh-heh— onto the front pages tomorrow. but-hearlfirst- onto the front pages tomorrow. but hear first here but you will hear it first here on but you will hear it first here eh-ehew— but you will hear it first here eh-ehew hh— but you will hear it first here eh-ehew hh e— but you will hear it first here on-show in a few- but you will hear it first here on show in a few minutes. on this show in a few minutes. heh— on this show in a few minutes. heh mere— on this show in a few minutes. but more-this— on this show in a few minutes. but more this shocking story but more on this shocking story hheh— but more on this shocking story that highlights- but more on this shocking story that highlights the size of the hheehee— that highlights the size of the albanian _wavel that highlights the size of the. albanian _wave that that highlights the size of the. albe'hitrn_wave that that highlights the size of the. albe'hit the _wave that that highlights the size of the albe'hit the uk. wave that that highlights the size of the albe'hit the uk. 80 wave that that highlights the size of the albe'hit the uk. 80 albanianz that has hit the uk. 80 albanian mherehhe— has hit the uk. 80 albanian migrants-jailed- has hit the uk. 80 albanian migrants jailed for a total migrants were jailed for a total of migrants were jailed for a total er heo— migrants were jailed for a total er heh weere— migrants were jailed for a total er hee weere hh— migrants were jailed for a total of 130 years in the— migrants were jailed for a total of 130 years in the first four of130 years in the first four memhe— of130 years in the first four mehhhe er— of130 years in the first four months of this— of 130 years in the first four months of this year. we've been

eehwhehee. — months of this year. we've been convicted. they've _ months of this year. we've been convicted. they've been eehwhehee— convicted. they've been convicted rather, of a wide hhee— convicted rather, of a wide rehee er— convicted rather, of a wide range of serious- convicted rather, of a wide range of serious crimes. convicted rather, of a wide range of serious crimes . and range of serious crimes. and hheee— range of serious crimes. and heee-heee- range of serious crimes. and these brace yourselves , these crimes brace yourselves, hheheee— these crimes brace yourselves, include murder— these crimes brace yourselves, include murder ,— these crimes brace yourselves, include murder , rape and include murder, rape and theme— include murder, rape and firearms offences . last year, firearms offences. last year, hheh— firearms offences. last year, more than 800— firearms offences. last year, more than 800 albanian criminals eeperhee— more than 800 albanian criminals were deported back— more than 800 albanian criminals were deported back to the eeephrw— were deported back to the eeehhrw. h— were deported back to the eeehhrw. r em— were deported back to the country. i am joined now by the ehehrmeh— country. i am joined now by the ehehrmeh er— country. i am joined now by the chairman of migration watch uk ehhem — chairman of migration watch uk ehhem heh. — chairman of migration watch uk album out. people will hide hehhhe— album out. people will hide hehhhe hhhe— album out. people will hide behind this idea- album out. people will hide behind this idea now that we've eheppee— behind this idea now that we've eheppee e— behind this idea now that we've eheppee e heee— behind this idea now that we've slapped a load of— behind this idea now that we've slapped a load of posters up in hheehe— slapped a load of posters up in hhhehhe ehe— slapped a load of posters up in albania and saying don't come to the albania and saying don't come to hhe-we-we— albania and saying don't come to the .we've started— albania and saying don't come to the we've started deporting the uk, we've started deporting eeme-ee— the uk, we've started deporting eeme-eeh hhe- the uk, we've started deporting some and the number of some people and the number of hhhehhehe— some people and the number of albanians coming— some people and the number of albanians coming across the ehemeh— albanians coming across the ehemeh he— albanians coming across the channel is significantly reduced and channel is significantly reduced ehe-heee— channel is significantly reduced and been replaced by and they've been replaced by peephe—hhhe- and they've been replaced byi people—like india. and they've been replaced by peoplthat like india. and they've been replaced by peoplthat would like india. and they've been replaced by peoplthat would be .ike india. and they've been replaced by peoplthat would be fine ndia. and they've been replaced by peoplthat would be fine ifiia. and they've been replaced by peoplthat would be fine if the well, that would be fine if the prehhem — well, that would be fine if the problem _already- well, that would be fine if the problem already here. out problem wasn't already here. out weh— problem wasn't already here. out wehh. weeh— problem wasn't already here. out wehh. weeh .— problem wasn't already here. out wehh. weeh . hee.— problem wasn't already here. out well, yeah . yes, absolutely.- problem wasn't already here. out 22“ /2;2 well, yeah. yes, absolutely. the problem is already here. and if the government had any sense at the government had any sense at the point when people were entering, they would have looked more closely and scrutinised those who were entering the country to make sure that we kept out the bad ones that it goes without saying . but what goes without saying. but what i would also say, patrick, is that what to me it shows. i know

you've rather pooh poohed the idea that it there are fewer albanians coming in now than there were before. i'd like to believe that part of the reason for that , that is the fact that for that, that is the fact that they are now being detained and they are now being detained and they are now being detained and they are being sent back. they're being dealt with relatively quickly and not being allowed to gallivant around while they're waiting for decisions to be made. so what that shows to me is that if we were to stop all of those who were to stop all of those who were entering the country illegally, hold on to them, deal with them quickly, and remove them, that would be one way of discouraging more to come. but i wouldn't hold my breath, frankly, that it we've seen the last of albanian criminals trying to get into the country . trying to get into the country. we haven't. and they will continue to come . but but are continue to come. but but are you deeply— continue to come. but but are you deeply frustrated- continue to come. but but are you deeply frustrated ?_ 22“ 2 but but are you deeply frustrated .7 people you deeply frustrated? people like— you deeply frustrated? people like yourself— you deeply frustrated? people like yourself have been saying this— like yourself have been saying this is— like yourself have been saying iiis is going— like yourself have been saying this is going to— like yourself have been saying this is going to happen for a very,— this is going to happen for a very-ioni— this is going to happen for a very, long period time. very, very long period of time. i very, very long period of time. i m...— very, very long period of time.

i you— very, very long period of time. i mean, you know,— very, very long period of time. i mean, you know, i'll just i'll iusi— i mean, you know, i'll just i'll iusi say— i mean, you know, i'll just i'll iusi say iiis. — i mean, you know, i'll just i'll just say this. okay. a lot of msse— just say this. okay. a lot of these _where - just say this. okay. a lot of. these _where people just say this. okay. a lot of- these _where people are these countries where people are coming—donsiil coming from, you know, donald immi— coming from, you know, donald iiump said— coming from, you know, donald trump said they're— coming from, you know, donald trump said they're not sending iiisii— trump said they're not sending iiisii besi— trump said they're not sending their best. and— trump said they're not sending their best. and he— trump said they're not sending their best. and he was hounded for saying— their best. and he was hounded for saying iiiai. — their best. and he was hounded for saying that. and unfortunately, we are seeing sriminsis— unfortunately, we are seeing criminals coming across the channsi— criminals coming across the channel and— criminals coming across the channel and a— criminals coming across the channel and a lot of these psspis— channel and a lot of these psspis, i— channel and a lot of these psspis, i am— channel and a lot of these people, i am sure, are the ssuniiiss— people, i am sure, are the countries are— people, i am sure, are the countries are glad to see the bask— countries are glad to see the bask ai— countries are glad to see the back of. well— countries are glad to see the back of. well |_ countries are glad to see the back of. well i don't know if sissy-is— back of. well i don't know if they're colluding to that extent from — they're colluding to that extent from shei— they're colluding to that extent from their governments . ' “i: from their governments. and gaammaasi— from their governments. and governments across- from their governments. and governments across the board are doing that. but when you've got people like the archbishop of canterbury saying that effectively anyone who comes here illegally obe in a dinghy and says, give me asylum, that immediately we have to give them asylum because that's what they are. i'm afraid that all it does is encourage more and more to come. patrick can i, can i just on, on the earlier story about the civil servants . yeah. i'd

the civil servants. yeah. i'd like to say something. if i may. yeah, because i was a member of that union. the union that the pubuc that union. the union that the public and commercial services union , which is threatening union, which is threatening strike action. i was a member of it for many, many years and indeedi it for many, many years and indeed i am still a member of retired member of that union. and what today has done to me is prompted me to make the decision that i will no longer be a part of that union. it is a disgrace. it is illegal. i feel what they're doing as jacob rees—mogg explained earlier , our that our explained earlier, our that our whole constitution, if you like, is based on the fact that politicians are elected. the civil service and that put in implement meant the policies that the elected politicians have put in place . yes, that

have put in place. yes, that should happen as a matter of course, as a former civil servant, in fact, i was chair of the foreign office's . a cs the foreign office's. a cs braque in in the 90. so i do know what i'm talking about. there are a lot of people at the top of the union and frankly, you would never see them vote. tory for sure . a lot of them in tory for sure. a lot of them in the old days would vote things a lot further to the left than laboun lot further to the left than labour. well to understand why they are now claiming that somehow this is illegal, it isn't illegal. it's perfectly legal and they should get on with theirjob. i legal and they should get on with their job. i thank you for coming— with their job. i thank you for coming as— with their job. i thank you for coming as as— with their job. i thank you for coming on as ever— with their job. i thank you for coming on as ever and- ” i thank you for coming on as ever and also as being— coming on as ever and also as being so— coming on as ever and also as being so saaiii— coming on as ever and also as being so candid and giving us a waaisiiai— being so candid and giving us a wonderful insight— being so candid and giving us a wonderful insight there. it's aways— wonderful insight there. it's always massively appreciated . always massively appreciated. masai— always massively appreciated. aipsm, iiiaak— always massively appreciated. alpern, thank you very much. iiiai-s— alpern, thank you very much. iiiai-s aa— alpern, thank you very much. that's our moment. there is the chairman— that's our moment. there is the chairman ai— that's our moment. there is the chairman of migration watch uk just

chairman of migration watch uk just-fill— chairman of migration watch uk insiliiii yan— chairman of migration watch uk insiliiii you in.— chairman of migration watch uk just fill you in. yes. so 80 just to fill you in. yes. so 80 0h,— just to fill you in. yes. so 80 sh nah— just to fill you in. yes. so 80 oh, well, there— just to fill you in. yes. so 80 oh, well, there we- just to fill you in. yes. so 80 oh, well, there we go. yeah, some breaking— oh, well, there we go. yeah, some breaking news for you. isninisi— some breaking news for you. feminist kathleen stock has had her sain— feminist kathleen stock has had her iaih ai— feminist kathleen stock has had her talk at the— feminist kathleen stock has had her talk at the oxford union inisnanisi — her talk at the oxford union interrupted by— her talk at the oxford union interrupted by trans rights pnissisis— interrupted by trans rights protesters waving flags and shaming,— protesters waving flags and shouting ha— protesters waving flags and shouting, no more dead trans his— shouting, no more dead trans his infan— shouting, no more dead trans kids before being booed by memehs— kids before being booed by members of— kids before being booed by members of the audience and eseanei— members of the audience and eseanei ani— members of the audience and escorted out by— members of the audience and escorted out by security . two escorted out by security. two protesters— escorted out by security. two protesters emerged from the audience— protesters emerged from the audience waving rainbow flags and audience waving rainbow flags ani hashing— audience waving rainbow flags and throwing leaflets before hheh— and throwing leaflets before he nee— and throwing leaflets before they were drowned out by shoeing— they were drowned out by shouting from _ they were drowned out by shouting from the crowd and naiiei— shouting from the crowd and paiiei ani— shouting from the crowd and paiiea eai hy— shouting from the crowd and pulled out by security . another pulled out by security. another nonessen— pulled out by security. another protester wearing— pulled out by security. another protester wearing a t shirt saying,— protester wearing a t shirt saying, he— protester wearing a t shirt saying, no more dead trans kids appears— saying, no more dead trans kids appears as— saying, no more dead trans kids appears he have— saying, no more dead trans kids appears to have glued herself to the appears to have glued herself to he riser— appears to have glued herself to he hear in— appears to have glued herself to the floor in front— appears to have glued herself to the floor in front of— appears to have glued herself to the floor in front of professor sraeh. — the floor in front of professor sraeh. an — the floor in front of professor stock. an audience member addressee— stock. an audience member addressed them, shouting, we are here— addressed them, shouting, we are here is— addressed them, shouting, we are here is iisien— addressed them, shouting, we are here to listen. whether you like it here to listen. whether you like i or— here to listen. whether you like i or her. — here to listen. whether you like it or not. several— here to listen. whether you like it or not. several audience rnernehs— it or not. several audience members then— it or not. several audience members then began shouting for the members then began shouting for he professor— members then began shouting for the professor to— members then began shouting for the professor to carry on in spire— the professor to carry on in spire ai— the professor to carry on in spire or he— the professor to carry on in spite of the protester. so to summarise , as— spite of the protester. so to summarise , as we understand it, summarise, as we understand it, harhieen— summarise, as we understand it, kathleen stock— summarise, as we understand it, kathleen stock speaking at oriana— kathleen stock speaking at oxford union,— kathleen stock speaking at oxford union, supposedly a basin— oxford union, supposedly a hasrian ai— oxford union, supposedly a bastion of intellect and free speech— bastion of intellect and free speech, where _ bastion of intellect and free speech, where people have

srarnei— speech, where people have stormed this— speech, where people have stormed this situation now draperi— stormed this situation now draped in— stormed this situation now draped in rainbow flags, et eerra— draped in rainbow flags, et eerra ,— draped in rainbow flags, et cetera , one of— draped in rainbow flags, et cetera , one of which has glued cetera, one of which has glued rhenseives— cetera, one of which has glued themselves to— cetera, one of which has glued themselves to the _ cetera, one of which has glued themselves to the floor in front of professor— themselves to the floor in front of professor stock, _ themselves to the floor in front of professor stock, shouting rhines— of professor stock, shouting rhinps hhe— of professor stock, shouting things like no— of professor stock, shouting things like no more dead trans his— things like no more dead trans hiis .— things like no more dead trans hiis . ani— things like no more dead trans hiis . hni ne— things like no more dead trans kids . and we will— things like no more dead trans kids . and we will bring you an kids. and we will bring you an apiare— kids. and we will bring you an apiare an— kids. and we will bring you an update on that— kids. and we will bring you an update on that and when we update on that as and when we get update on that as and when we per-har— update on that as and when we perlhar rarher— update on that as and when we get but rather predictable, get it, but rather predictable, wash-r— get it, but rather predictable, wash-r pp— get it, but rather predictable, wasn't it?-honest. get it, but rather predictable, wasn't it? honest with wasn't it? let's be honest with pea.— wasn't it? let's be honest with you. ihere— wasn't it? let's be honest with yea. ihere ne— wasn't it? let's be honest with win. ihere we is.— wasn't it? let's be honest with you. there we go. okay. more on anar— you. there we go. okay. more on rhar breaking— you. there we go. okay. more on that breaking news— you. there we go. okay. more on that breaking news very, very shaniw. — that breaking news very, very shaniw. _vou- that breaking news very, very shortly. you believe shortly. but would you believe weari— shortly. but would you believe waaii—rhar- shortly. but would you believe wawii—rhar a- shortly. but would you believe would—that a topi would you believe that a top cahiner— would you believe that a top cabinet office— would you believe that a top cabinet office official who gave hens— cabinet office official who gave boris johnson's— cabinet office official who gave boris johnson's diary to the poise— boris johnson's diary to the paiiee ani— boris johnson's diary to the police and privileged committee has a— police and privileged committee has a erase— police and privileged committee has a close family— police and privileged committee has a close family link to the eannirree— has a close family link to the committee chair?— has a close family link to the committee chair? goodness gracious— committee chair? goodness praeiaws ne— committee chair? goodness praeiaws ne .— committee chair? goodness gracious me . when will it end? gracious me. when will it end? iaiaw. — gracious me. when will it end? iaiaw. ihe— gracious me. when will it end? today. the civil— gracious me. when will it end? today. the civil service torfaen going— today. the civil service torfaen rising in— today. the civil service torfaen painp an sinke— today. the civil service torfaen going on strike that they want to going on strike that they want is hheeh— going on strike that they want is hiaeh rhe — going on strike that they want to block the rwanda deal. we've had to block the rwanda deal. we've hai rhe— to block the rwanda deal. we've hai rhe civi— to block the rwanda deal. we've had the civil service trying to easi— had the civil service trying to oust—ministers. oust government ministers successive government successive ousting government ninisrers— successive ousting government ministers-things- successive ousting government ministers things to the ministers leaking things to the pess— ministers leaking things to the press pep,— ministers leaking things to the press, left, right— ministers leaking things to the press, left, right and centre. ris— press, left, right and centre. it's—unbeliev- press, left, right and centre.| it's—unbeliev able. it's absolutely unbeliev able. ani— it's absolutely unbeliev able. ani hw— it's absolutely unbeliev able. ani ir— it's absolutely unbeliev able. and now it appears that as an iniiwiiaai— and now it appears that as an individual who's— and now it appears that as an individual who's got a link to the committee's— individual who's got a link to the committee's chair, a family inh— the committee's chair, a family ink is— the committee's chair, a family ink is he— the committee's chair, a family link to the committee's chair, wha— link to the committee's chair, who is— link to the committee's chair, who is handing— link to the committee's chair, who is handing over boris johnson-s— who is handing over boris johnson's most- who is handing over boris johnson's most deeply personal iniarnaiian— johnson's most deeply personal information to— johnson's most deeply personal information to that committee ,

information to that committee, i'm information to that committee, in sowi— information to that committee, in sarrw har— information to that committee, i'm sorry, but there is sanerhini— i'm sorry, but there is something very , very, very dark something very, very, very dark ani— something very, very, very dark ani sinisrer— something very, very, very dark and sinister going— something very, very, very dark and sinister going on right now in hrirain— and sinister going on right now in britain and— and sinister going on right now in britain and i— and sinister going on right now in britain and i want to get to he— in britain and i want to get to he herrin— in britain and i want to get to the bottom of— in britain and i want to get to the bottom of it— in britain and i want to get to the bottom of it is patrick

from 11 on gb news britain's news . channel i'm finishing with news. channel i'm finishing with the big exclusive and it is from the big exclusive and it is from the daily express, specifically christine corgi and it's emerged in the past hour that a top

cabinet office mandarin alex chisholm, who has played a significant role in last week's bofis significant role in last week's boris johnson police referral, is related by marriage to the privileged committee chair harriet harman. i'm going to go to harriet harman. i'm going to go is chrisrine— harriet harman. i'm going to go to christine corgi,— harriet harman. i'm going to go to christine corgi, who- harriet harman. i'm going to go to christine corgi, who is- i'm going to go to christine corgi, who is the senior political— to christine corgi, who is the senior political correspondent. ihis— senior political correspondent. ihis is— senior political correspondent. ihis is carpi— senior political correspondent. this is corgi scoop, so i'm going— this is corgi scoop, so i'm painp ra— this is corgi scoop, so i'm painp ii iii— this is corgi scoop, so i'm going to lob it— this is corgi scoop, so i'm going to lob it over to you. chrisrine— going to lob it over to you. christine thank— going to lob it over to you. christine thank you very, very mash. — christine thank you very, very mash. whar-s— christine thank you very, very much. what's going on here? so the much. what's going on here? so he wew— much. what's going on here? so he wew sinpie— much. what's going on here? so the very simple story is that area— the very simple story is that alex chisholm— the very simple story is that alex chisholm is— the very simple story is that alex chisholm is one of the most swi— alex chisholm is one of the most senior civil servants— alex chisholm is one of the most senior civil servants in the cahiner— senior civil servants in the cabinet office— senior civil servants in the cabinet office who have been overseeing— cabinet office who have been overseeing the _ cabinet office who have been overseeing the whole of panwpare— overseeing the whole of partygate handling by the civil service.— partygate handling by the civil service. — partygate handling by the civil service. or— partygate handling by the civil service. of course— partygate handling by the civil service. of course ,- partygate handling by the civil service. 22 service. of course, the department. we've seen lots of ieahs— department. we've seen lots of ieahs hars— department. we've seen lots of ieahs his or— department. we've seen lots of leaks, lots of briefings- : we've seen lots of leaks, lots of briefings from rhen — leaks, lots of briefings from them against— leaks, lots of briefings from them against boris johnson . and them against boris johnson. and it them against boris johnson. and i hw— them against boris johnson. and i erneresi— them against boris johnson. and it now emerges that alex chishain — it now emerges that alex chisholm is,— it now emerges that alex chisholm is, as you say, related by marriage— chisholm is, as you say, related by marriage is— chisholm is, as you say, related by marriage to harriet harman, wha— by marriage to harriet harman, who coincidentally is chairing the who coincidentally is chairing rhe priwiiepes— who coincidentally is chairing the privileges committee in the house— the privileges committee in the house or— the privileges committee in the house of commons into boris iahnsan— house of commons into boris iahnsan ani— house of commons into boris johnson and partygate . krixriri

johnson and partygate. now, the specific— johnson and partygate. now, the specific relationship actually isn't that difficult to understand why his wife, alex chisholm's wife, her grandmother there is harriet harman's auntie, so they are i think his wife and harriet harman are first cousins, first removed. it's actually a very close familial bond. now, cabinet office sources , government office sources, government sources said , and it's not sources said, and it's not a close relationship and they haven't met. now, maybe it's because i'm northern, but i know my family . and if i worked in my family. and if i worked in the same industry as them in the same postcode as them , i imagine same postcode as them, i imagine i'd be aware of that link. and you know, whether you buy into the, you know, the what, what we're doing here by, by highlighting these links. well it should at least be declared because this is a very important relationship. and because this is a very important relationship . and was it not relationship. and was it not ieeiarei— relationship. and was it not ieeiarei a— relationship. and was it not declared a political- declared a political investigation was it not ieeiarei—

investigation was it not declared it— investigation was it not declared it took them a while to ris— declared it took them a while to ir-s nar— declared it took them a while to come. it's not public.- declared it took them a while to come. 32 ?g“. declared it took them a while to come. 3g“. come. it's not public. right. we have to do our own investigation . i had to do a family tree via the you know, via sources . i had the you know, via sources. i had to put it to the cabinet office and they took about six hours to come back to me with with no comment. right it's not declared andifs comment. right it's not declared and it's not been published anywhere else before. and the reason i think people will be so angry about it is because it's not the first. right. we know of other links. for example , rachel other links. for example, rachel reeves, the shadow chancellor is married to a guy called nicholas joicey, who is very senior in the cabinet office and he's head of the economic and domestic secretariat. now it's a very important role. we're not saying these people have leaked , but these people have leaked, but when you build this picture of constant briefings against brexiteers, against boris that are, you know, thin on the ground, evidence that have holes in their claims and there's all

this overwhelming evidence that their labour people, you know, we've had some grey as well from the cabinet office. it builds a picture of a government department and a civil service who can't be trusted by people who can't be trusted by people who voted for boris johnson . it who voted for boris johnson. it is an astonishing revelation. chrisrine,— is an astonishing revelation. christine, i'm— is an astonishing revelation. christine, i'm going to bring up a pierare— christine, i'm going to bring up a pierare ai— christine, i'm going to bring up a picture of this— christine, i'm going to bring up a picture of this individual, ahea— a picture of this individual, alex chisholm.— a picture of this individual, alex chisholm. now, i believe so. alex chisholm. now, i believe sea-he— alex chisholm. now, i believe sa-he is.— alex chisholm. now, i believe so.-he is. that's- alex chisholm. now, i believe so. he is. that's the man so. there he is. that's the man who— so. there he is. that's the man who has— so. there he is. that's the man who has supposedly been essentially— who has supposedly been essentially hiding in the shaiaws— essentially hiding in the shadows and— essentially hiding in the shadows and not revealing that he-a— shadows and not revealing that he-a familial— shadows and not revealing that he-a familial tie- shadows and not revealing that he a familial tie to harriet he has a familial tie to harriet nannan— he has a familial tie to harriet narrnan ani— he has a familial tie to harriet harman and corgi_ he has a familial tie to harriet harman and corgi . when you look harman and corgi. when you look at harman and corgi. when you look ar ari— harman and corgi. when you look ah ah ai— harman and corgi. when you look ah ah if his— harman and corgi. when you look at all of this stuff— harman and corgi. when you look at all of this stuff ,— harman and corgi. when you look at all of this stuff , it harman and corgi. when you look at all of this stuff, it is wew,— at all of this stuff, it is veryr wew— at all of this stuff, it is very, very difficult, isn't it, to very, very difficult, isn't it, is her— very, very difficult, isn't it, is her iraw— very, very difficult, isn't it, to not draw a— very, very difficult, isn't it, to not draw a link between mean, whar-s— to not draw a link between mean, was happening— to not draw a link between mean, what's happening to boris johnson— what's happening to boris johnson and— what's happening to boris johnson and some kind of witch hanr— johnson and some kind of witch hanr siren— johnson and some kind of witch hunt stitch up?— johnson and some kind of witch hunt stitch up? et— johnson and some kind of witch hunt stitch up? et cetera . i hunt stitch up? et cetera. i ihis— hunt stitch up? et cetera. i mean, this is— hunt stitch up? et cetera. i mean, this is staggering. i mean , in— mean, this is staggering. i mean , in some— mean, this is staggering. i mean , i-n sarrw har— mean, this is staggering. i mean , i'm sorry, but this— mean, this is staggering. i mean , i'm sorry, but this is the ini— , i'm sorry, but this is the hini ai— , i'm sorry, but this is the kind of thing— , i'm sorry, but this is the kind of thing this is the kind of kind of thing this is the kind ii rhini— kind of thing this is the kind or rhinp rhar— kind of thing this is the kind of thing that the codes of naraiiw— of thing that the codes of morality should be upheld for.

ani— morality should be upheld for. hni peephe— morality should be upheld for. and people people get in hot warer— and people people get in hot warer air— and people people get in hot water all the— and people people get in hot water all the time for not not repenini— water all the time for not not repaninp ar— water all the time for not not reporting or declaring interests like reporting or declaring interests iihe ihis. — reporting or declaring interests iihe ihis. ris— reporting or declaring interests like this. it's one— reporting or declaring interests like this. it's one rule for hens— like this. it's one rule for boris johnson,- like this. it's one rule for boris johnson, one rule for eweanerw— boris johnson, one rule for eweenerw eise— boris johnson, one rule for everyone else, isn't it? well, erasin— everyone else, isn't it? well, exaeriw . — everyone else, isn't it? well, exaeiiw . ani— everyone else, isn't it? well, exactly. and i— everyone else, isn't it? well, exactly . ' “i: 22“ . everyone else, isn't it? well, exactly . ' 22“ . ”2222“ everyone else, isn't it? well,- exactly . and i can't remember if exactly. and i can't remember if i mentioned so it's worth clarifying that the reason this is important is alex chisholm was reportedly the senior civil servant who decided to okay bofis servant who decided to okay boris johnson's diaries being handed over to the police last week over allegations that events at chequers had broken lockdown rules. and he's also involved in passing those diaries , those same diaries, diaries, those same diaries, over to harriet harman's privileges committee , who are privileges committee, who are now factoring in those allegations into their investigation , which, of course, investigation, which, of course, has been called a stitch up already by many allies of boris johnson's. christine thank you. and what a scoop this will rwnhie— and what a scoop this will rwnhie — and what a scoop this will rumble on. christine cowie there at rumble on. christine cowie there ar rhe— rumble on. christine cowie there ar rhe pairw— rumble on. christine cowie there at the daily express. make sure you— at the daily express. make sure wew cheek— at the daily express. make sure you check him — at the daily express. make sure you check him out— at the daily express. make sure you check him out on twitter at kain.— you check him out on twitter at haihi. ne-s— you check him out on twitter at kalki. he's always— you check him out on twitter at kalki. he's always got scoops ihe— kalki. he's always got scoops ape-pow,— kalki. he's always got scoops like now, michelle like that. now, michelle dewberry— like that. now, michelle dewberry-me- like that. now, michelle

dewberry me for dewbs& like that. now, michelle- dewberry-me for dewbs& co dewberry joins me for dewbs& co what-s— dewberry joins me for dewbs& co whats in— dewberry joins me for dewbs& co whats on he— dewberry joins me for dewbs& co what's on the agenda? /2.. dewberry joins me for dewbs& co what's on the agenda? /2- what's on the agenda? you know, i what's on the agenda? you know, iwa— what's on the agenda? you know, iwa tisr— what's on the agenda? you know, i was just listening to that made me laugh, though, when he said maybe it's because he's northern rest it, northern and all the rest of it, but who doesn't know their family? i mean, look, the family? yeah, i mean, look, the same yeah. whole same office. yeah. the whole thing is just ridiculous. and i do take was public for do think the take was public for fools leaks, fools and all these leaks, etcetera. got more holes etcetera. they've got more holes than a it's appalling going on right anyway. would right now. anyway. who would want politics with want to go into politics with all of stuff going on? all this kind of stuff going on? i look at all this and i think it just deters good from it just deters good people from getting involved. anyway, i've got up. touch got loads coming up. i'll touch on course. but i also on that, of course. but i also want ask, are unions getting want to ask, are unions getting too big their boots? they too big for their boots? they seem be interfering in seem to be interfering in absolutely everything. also, one of things that of the great british things that i all the random i love are all the random events. yes. so the events. patrick yes. so at the weekend won the weekend some women won the cheese competition in cheese rolling competition in gloucester. knocked gloucester. she got knocked unconscious. anyway, loads of people saying these people are saying that all these events banned events now should be banned because are so because honestly, there are so many looking into it many i've been looking into it today, fascinating today, so many fascinating things and whilst doing my research, this one that research, look at this one that i found out. talk about, oh, it's me, lawnmower this it's me, lawnmower racing. this is everyone

is patrick christys everyone lawn mowing, racing as he says. watch this. everyone not watch this. everyone is not very good it. absolutely stacks good at it. he absolutely stacks it. i've got a scar. can't good at it. he absolutely stacks it. i've got a scar . can't get it. i've got a scar. can't get my— it. i've got a scar. can't get my trouser— it. i've got a scar. can't get my rrawser rei— . i've got a scar. can't get my trouser leg that high. but my trouser leg up that high. but i my trouser leg up that high. but i spir— my trouser leg up that high. but i spiii hw— my trouser leg up that high. but i split my kneecap_ my trouser leg up that high. but i split my kneecap open, though. oh, i split my kneecap open, though. on iii— i split my kneecap open, though. on iii pp— i split my kneecap open, though. oh, did it? well,— i split my kneecap open, though. oh, did it? well, i've— i split my kneecap open, though. oh, did it? well, i've got- i split my kneecap open, though. oh, did it? well, i've got to - oh, did it? well, i've got to say, i spent a good ten minutes laughing. i find it a hilarious when people fall and hurt themselves. when people fall and hurt them allies. when people fall and hurt them all of. when people fall and hurt them all of these of that, all of these kind of events, you've got those great ones football is get ones where the football is get knocked around the streets, people battering each other, people battering each other, people ban people saying ban them, ban them. a life. let them them. i say get a life. let them run. absolutely. what a show iinei— run. absolutely. what a show iinei ap— run. absolutely. what a show iinei up near— ’“ absolutely. what a show lined up next michelle dewberry whh— lined up next michelle dewberry with—wew- lined up next michelle dewberry. with _you tomorrow with dewbs& co see you tomorrow at three— with dewbs& co see you tomorrow at three peephe— with dewbs& co see you tomorrow at three people. take it easy. heire— at three people. take it easy. hehe-ani— at three people. take it easy. hello-and greg- at three people. take it easy. hello and greg dewhurst. hello there and greg dewhurst. ani— hello there and greg dewhurst. ari-ra— hello there and greg dewhurst. ari-re wear— hello there and greg dewhurst. and _to your latest- hello there and greg dewhurst. and _to your latest gb. and welcome to your latest gb news forecast. high pressure firmly control , keeps it firmly in control, keeps it settled dry . for many of us, settled and dry. for many of us, though, the cloud will affect eastern at times. keeping eastern coast at times. keeping it cooler here with a keen north easterly breeze , it just take easterly breeze, it just take the edge off the temperatures. but it is really settled over the next few days and very little changing through the rest of the week to end tuesday . of the week to end tuesday. we've got plenty of clear skies

across the western side of the country, across the north and the east. we have some low the east. we do have some low and thicker cloud move and thicker cloud as we move into the early hours. this slowly spreads its way westwards into the early hours. this slowlclearerds its way westwards into the early hours. this slowlclearer skies way westwards into the early hours. this slowlclearer skies holding twards into the early hours. this slowlclearer skies holding onirds , the clearer skies holding on to western scotland, into to western scotland, wales into northern ireland. and here is where we'll see the lowest temperatures dipping into single figures , generally figures elsewhere, generally under cloud, holding up 9 to under the cloud, holding up 9 to ii under the cloud, holding up 9 to 11 degrees. cloud could be 11 degrees. the cloud could be thick enough for a few spots of drizzle, quite a start drizzle, so quite a grey start away from northern ireland, western to wednesday western scotland to wednesday morning. we go through morning. but as we go through the this cloud should the day, this cloud should slowly lift and break. but just nofice slowly lift and break. but just notice it takes its time to notice how it takes its time to do so compared to tuesday day, some parts of central england into staying into eastern england staying cloudy all best of the cloudy all day. best of the sunshine across the north—west and here, temperatures approaching 25 degrees for western scotland . low 20s western scotland. low 20s elsewhere still cool along the east coast at the mid teens into the evening time on wednesday that low cloud starts slipping back westward once again, clearer holding on to end clearer skies holding on to end the day across the west and then overnight again , the cloud overnight again, the cloud thickens up. perhaps thick

enough for the odd spot of light rain or drizzle, but most places dry and temperatures again in the range of 7 to ii dry and temperatures again in the range of 7 to 11 degrees to take us into thursday morning. and taking a quick look at thursday, a of a grey start thursday, a bit of a grey start again. best the sunshine and again. best of the sunshine and western of scotland, western fringes of scotland, england also england and wales and also northern ireland. then northern ireland. and then slowly morning the slowly through the morning the cloud and breaks and tries cloud lifts and breaks and tries to push towards the east. to push back towards the east. just its time to do so, just taking its time to do so, and then to end week into and then to end the week into the stays very the weekend. it stays very similar, further sunny spells to come in west come, particularly in the west and temperatures average .

would want that job now if someone said to me, give me all of your whatsapp messages, quite frankly , i'd end up in a whole frankly, i'd end up in a whole host of trouble. would you? or is there anything to see in yours at all? boris johnson has been asked to hand over his and get it's broken. earlier get this, it's broken. earlier this that person this afternoon that the person that diary is that shops his diary is basically to police was basically to the police was related to harriet harman. mhm. the plot thickens. is there anything to see here? some people saying stitch up witch