my my friend . the toxicity is not my friend. the toxicity is not with me , dan wootton, or anyone with me, dan wootton, or anyone else. the toxicity is with you and your mates in management. eamonn holmes hits out at phillip— eamonn holmes hits out at phillip schofield in an explosive— phillip schofield in an explosive interview with gb news. — explosive interview with gb news. good— explosive interview with gb news. good morning. it's 6:00 on tuesday— news. good morning. it's 6:00 on tuesday the— news. good morning. it's 6:00 on tuesday the 30th— news. good morning. it's 6:00 on tuesday the 30th of— news. good morning. it's 6:00 on tuesday the 30th of may. " tuesday the 30th of may. this is breakfast— tuesday the 30th of may. this is breakfast an— tuesday the 30th of may. this is breakfast on gb _ tuesday the 30th of may. this is breakfast on gb news with ellie costello and martin daubney. and here's what's in the news this— and here's what's in the news this morning-— and here's what's in the news this morning. as— and here's what's in the news this morning. as we said, eamonn holmes— this morning. as we said, eamonn holmes has— this morning. as we said, eamonn holmes has branded phillip seaefleaa— holmes has branded phillip schofield a— holmes has branded phillip schofield a chief nana ethicist.

in schofield a chief nana ethicist. m an— schofield a chief nana ethicist. in an exclusive— schofield a chief nana ethicist. in an exclusive bombshell interview— in an exclusive bombshell interview last— in an exclusive bombshell interview last night. during the sit interview last night. during the sea dawn— interview last night. during the sit down chat,— interview last night. during the sit down chat, he— interview last night. during the sit down chat, he also accused aw— sit down chat, he also accused w of— sit down chat, he also accused itv of toxicity— sit down chat, he also accused itv of toxicity and— sit down chat, he also accused itv of toxicity and of covering up she— itv of toxicity and of covering up the presenter's affair with a younger— up the presenter's affair with a younger mae— up the presenter's affair with a younger male colleague . the younger male colleague. the government— younger male colleague. the government prepares for legal same— government prepares for legal same with— government prepares for legal battle with the— government prepares for legal battle with the pandemic inquiry ahe— battle with the pandemic inquiry over the release— battle with the pandemic inquiry over the release of— battle with the pandemic inquiry over the release of boris johnson-s— over the release of boris johnson's whatsapp messages. today.— johnson's whatsapp messages. today, ministers— johnson's whatsapp messages. today, ministers will— johnson's whatsapp messages. today, ministers will decide whether to launch a judicial review in an attempt to avoid having to hand over messages and diaries. and labour would allow assa— diaries. and labour would allow local authorities— diaries. and labour would allow local authorities to— z and labour would allow local authorities to buy land cheaply— local authorities to buy land cheaply af— local authorities to buy land cheaply if they— local authorities to buy land cheaply if they intend to build on cheaply if they intend to build an as— cheaply if they intend to build an as as— cheaply if they intend to build an as as para— cheaply if they intend to build on it as part of— cheaply if they intend to build on it as part of a— cheaply if they intend to build on it as part of a plan to ease the— on it as part of a plan to ease the housing— on it as part of a plan to ease the housing crisis. _ on it as part of a plan to ease the housing crisis. it comes amia— the housing crisis. it comes amaa repeats— the housing crisis. it comes amid reports tory donor property developers— amid reports tory donor property developers are— amid reports tory donor property developers are withholding funds in protest— developers are withholding funds in protest ef— developers are withholding funds in protest of the— developers are withholding funds in protest of the government's fay...— in protest of the government's fanae ae— in protest of the government's failure to build— in protest of the government's failure to build houses and pub ana— failure to build houses and pub and restaurant— failure to build houses and pub and restaurant owners are urging the government— and restaurant owners are urging the government for support after they— the government for support after they sa— the government for support after they theta— the government for support after they saw their energy bills th— they saw their energy bills soar. 81, less— they saw their energy bills soar. 81, less than- they saw their energy bills soar. 8 s?" z they saw their energy bills soar. 3 z soar. 81, less than a third of hospital motty businesses are optimistic about their future . optimistic about their future. that's according to industry

bodies. and we've that's according to industry bodies . and we've got that's according to industry bodies. and we've got a huge shew— bodies. and we've got a huge shew aheat— bodies. and we've got a huge show ahead today. _ zhzzt: and we've got a huge show ahead today. get in 1:3»: and we've got a huge show ahead today. get in touch via twitter— show ahead today. get in touch via twitter or— show ahead today. get in touch via twitter or email gb views at gb via twitter or email gb views at at news— via twitter or email gb views at at news — via twitter or email gb views at gb news .com and— via twitter or email gb views at gb news .com and let us know what— gb news .com and let us know that ye— gb news .com and let us know what you're watching or hstehhg— what you're watching or listening to— what you're watching or listening to from today so we ghe— listening to from today so we the yea— listening to from today so we the you a— listening to from today so we can give you a shout out. let's tatt— can give you a shout out. let's tatt aheat— can give you a shout out. let's talk about the— can give you a shout out. let's talk about the pub— can give you a shout out. let's talk about the pub stuff. so i think— talk about the pub stuff. so i that that-s— talk about the pub stuff. so i think that's obviously the aim aha— think that's obviously the aim and stutt— think that's obviously the aim and staff ts— think that's obviously the aim and stuff is massive, but the pub— and stuff is massive, but the hat-ts— and stuff is massive, but the pub is something that pub stuff is something that aeatty— pub stuff is something that aeatty-et— pub stuff is something that really-of goes- pub stuff is something that really of goes to my heart. really kind of goes to my heart. she— really kind of goes to my heart. she hike— really kind of goes to my heart. she htte h— really kind of goes to my heart. 81% hike in bills— really kind of goes to my heart. 81% hike in bills and boozers are 81% hike in bills and boozers fathe— 81% hike in bills and boozers are facing just— 81% hike in bills and boozers are facing just to— 81% hike in bills and boozers are facing just to stay open in teams— are facing just to stay open in teams at— are facing just to stay open in terms of heating— are facing just to stay open in terms of heating and supply eesst— terms of heating and supply eesst aha— terms of heating and supply tesst aha .— terms of heating and supply costs. and i think pubs are htaetthty— costs. and i think pubs are incredibly important for the tahht— incredibly important for the habit et— incredibly important for the fabric of the— incredibly important for the fabric of the nation . 31133 fabric of the nation. well, they-te— fabric of the nation. well, they-re at— fabric of the nation. well, they're at they're at the centre of the community, aren't they? and they are a community hub and there people that on there are people that rely on their pubs for company for a social life, a warmth, for warmth even. yeah. and the cost of living crisis. it is really, really difficult for pubs to keep on going. tell us about your local pub. what do you love about it? what makes it so special and do you have concerns about them surviving this cost of living crisis and the latest

energy bill hike? let us know what you think at home vaiews@gbnews.uk . i'm so vaiews@gbnews.uk. i'm so to our top story, eamonn holmes has claimed there was a total cover up over phillip schofield's affair with a younger man. in an exclusive bombshell ” 93 in an exclusive bombshell interview with— exclusive bombshell interview with th— exclusive bombshell interview with th wews— exclusive bombshell interview with gb news last night. well itv with gb news last night. well hv has— with gb news last night. well itv has denied— with gb news last night. well itv has denied the allegations , itv has denied the allegations, sayhg— itv has denied the allegations, sayhg that— itv has denied the allegations, sayhg that they— itv has denied the allegations, saying that they were investigated when rumours of a tetattehshh— investigated when rumours of a relationship first— investigated when rumours of a relationship first surfaced. hat— relationship first surfaced. hat teth— relationship first surfaced. but both parties— relationship first surfaced. but both parties categorically and repeat denied them in a sit down with dan wootton. eamonn also called out what— down with dan wootton. eamonn also called out what he- : 1" " eamonn also called out what he saw as : 11“ " eamonn also called out what he saw as a tattere— also called out what he saw as a tattwe et— also called out what he saw as a culture of toxicity— also called out what he saw as a culture of toxicity at— also called out what he saw as a culture of toxicity at this heathe— culture of toxicity at this hethhg h— culture of toxicity at this morning in life i have always hat— morning in life i have always hat this— morning in life i have always had this belief— morning in life i have always had this belief that a lie unchallenged- had this belief that a lie unchallenged becomes the truth. so unchallenged becomes the truth. se attheath— unchallenged becomes the truth. se attheath .— unchallenged becomes the truth. so although i don't— unchallenged becomes the truth. so although i don't want- unchallenged becomes the truth. so although i don't want to- so although i don't want to stand up to schofield constantly pointing out where he's lying , i pointing out where he's lying, i feel i have to . is he feel i have to. is he delusional? does he imagine the

or is he so detached from real life at this morning that he didn't realise what was going on? i often say this to ruth. i said maybe he believes all this stuff. maybe he did not see what went on, actually, because there's something wrong with him . but he is the chief narcissist. he is a complete and utter dyed in the wool narcissist . everything is about narcissist. everything is about him . what did you know about him. what did you know about this— him. what did you know about this yeuhg— him. what did you know about this young man?— " what did you know about this young man? because he was there— this young man? because he was there a— this young man? because he was there a tet. — this young man? because he was there a lot. he's— this young man? because he was there a lot. he's been pictured on there a lot. he's been pictured at the— there a lot. he's been pictured at the sea— there a lot. he's been pictured on the sofa as— there a lot. he's been pictured on the sofa as a— there a lot. he's been pictured on the sofa as a very young teenager— on the sofa as a very young teenager sitting— on the sofa as a very young teenager sitting in between hetty— teenager sitting in between holly willoughby and phillip sthettett— holly willoughby and phillip schofield and— holly willoughby and phillip schofield and then i remember weathe— schofield and then i remember wettht at— schofield and then i remember working at itv— schofield and then i remember working at itv daytime and he was a non negotiable part of hhtth-s— was a non negotiable part of hhhhh-s the.— was a non negotiable part of philip's life. sometimes there wette— philip's life. sometimes there weatt ethe— philip's life. sometimes there would even be— philip's life. sometimes there would even be taxis ferrying this— would even be taxis ferrying thhs yetht— would even be taxis ferrying this young man— would even be taxis ferrying this young man between the state— this young man between the statte aha— this young man between the studio and philip's house. so what— studio and philip's house. so what the— studio and philip's house. so what the yea— studio and philip's house. so what did you know about him heteae— what did you know about him hetete he— what did you know about him before he was— what did you know about him before he was moved on to loose wethehe — before he was moved on to loose wethehe .— before he was moved on to loose women? i didn't— before he was moved on to loose women? i didn't know,- before he was moved on to loose women? : : c women? i didn't know, but i've subsequently found out from a very, very good source because

he would arrive much earlier in the morning than would for the the morning than i would for the programme time that was programme time that he was delivered from philip's london home. usually on a friday morning, because thursday was play morning, because thursday was play time when he and philip would hit the town and then he obviously stayed overnight. and there are records to show that he was brought in the next day separately in cars paid for by itv, cars paid for by itv. so the management a £15 : a so the management would « ti1511t: a so the management would have had itv, cars paid for by itv. so- the management would have had to have— the management would have had to have thewh— the management would have had to have known about— the management would have had to have known about that, wouldn't they,— have known about that, wouldn't they, uhtess— have known about that, wouldn't they, unless philip— have known about that, wouldn't they, unless philip paid the hit— they, unless philip paid the bill separately. c : bill separately. but it would still have to go through the accounts office that they would have known that have seen that and known that it's cover those it's a total cover up and those in authority had to know. they had to what was going on, had to know what was going on, and they thought they would dodge a bullet with this, which they which they do. and they do constantly because with schofield talking about those who speak out against him, mainly me, amanda holden and you , you'll be included in the

toxicity that that goes on. dr. ranj to dr. ranj of course, as wet. — ranj to dr. ranj of course, as wet. t— ranj to dr. ranj of course, as well. i think— ranj to dr. ranj of course, as well. i think philip- ranj to dr. ranj of course, as well. i think philip is- well. i think philip is absolutely right about toxicity, but my friend, the toxicity is not with me. dan wootton or anyone else. the toxicity is with you and your mates and management and everybody who kept you in power for and in abusive power for so long. and if i'm guilty of anything, it's speaking up for all those researchers who you ignored, all those producers who you treated like dirt, all those people who are texting and phoning me and dan wootton and saying, we feel now empowered to come out and tell the public the truth, because the truth is the public can't handle the truth the pubuc can't handle the truth the public don't want. they think you're a little broom cupboard person. and they grew up with you and lovely you're you and you're lovely and you're adorable you adorable and whatever, but you let fame and your power let your fame and your power corrupt you and. and that's where we're at today . and if i'm where we're at today. and if i'm guilty of anything, it's guilty of exposing you . well, he of exposing you. well, he doesn't mince his words, does he

? you can watch the whole ethtestwe— 7’ you can watch the whole explosive interview on gb news veatahe— explosive interview on gb news youtube channel. _ explosive interview on gb news youtube channel. and i do really recommend it.— youtube channel. and i do really recommend it. it's— youtube channel. and i do really recommend it. it's really, teatty— recommend it. it's really, really strong— recommend it. it's really, really strong interview. well, an really strong interview. well, at th— really strong interview. well, an itv spokesperson has said thts— an itv spokesperson has said thts farther— an itv spokesperson has said this further to— an itv spokesperson has said this further to our statement on satwtay. — this further to our statement on satwtay. ttv— this further to our statement on saturday. itv can— this further to our statement on saturday. itv can confirm that when— saturday. itv can confirm that when rumours— saturday. itv can confirm that when rumours of— saturday. itv can confirm that when rumours of a relationship between— when rumours of a relationship between phillip— when rumours of a relationship between phillip schofield and an ehhteyee— between phillip schofield and an ehhteyee et— between phillip schofield and an ehhteyee et ttv— between phillip schofield and an employee of itv first began to ttatatate— employee of itv first began to ttatatate th— employee of itv first began to circulate in early— employee of itv first began to circulate in early 2020, itv investigated _ circulate in early 2020, itv investigated both parties were questtehet— investigated both parties were questioned and— investigated both parties were questioned and both categorically and repeatedly tehtet— categorically and repeatedly tehtet the— categorically and repeatedly denied the rumours, as did thine-s.— denied the rumours, as did phillip's. then— denied the rumours, as did phillip's. then agency, ymc . in phillip's. then agency, ymc. in attttteh— phillip's. then agency, ymc. in addition, itv— phillip's. then agency, ymc. in addition, itv spoke to a number of addition, itv spoke to a number et heehte— addition, itv spoke to a number et heehte whe— addition, itv spoke to a number of people who worked on this heathe— of people who worked on this metathg aha— of people who worked on this morning and were not provided wtth— morning and were not provided wtth aha— morning and were not provided wtth and ate— morning and were not provided with and did not— morning and were not provided with and did not find any ewtehte— with and did not find any evidence of— with and did not find any evidence of a— with and did not find any evidence of a relationship heyeht— evidence of a relationship beyond hearsay and rumour. hhttth-s— beyond hearsay and rumour. philip's statement on friday reweast— philip's statement on friday reveals that— philip's statement on friday reveals that he _ philip's statement on friday reveals that he lied to people at hw— reveals that he lied to people at .ry, trerh — reveals that he lied to people at itv, from senior management to at itv, from senior management te tettew— at itv, from senior management to fellow presenters to ymu to the theta— to fellow presenters to ymu to the media and— to fellow presenters to ymu to the media and to— to fellow presenters to ymu to the media and to others over thts— the media and to others over this relationship— the media and to others over this relationship . 31133 1 9 this relationship. well, joining us now is showbiz reporter stephanie takyi. good morning,

steph. i mean, wow , is the first steph. i mean, wow, is the first word explode ? massive stuff. word explode? massive stuff. i mean, where do you even start? let's start with the top lines. it's a deluge vision, an illusion, a total, it's a deluge vision, an illusion, a total , total cover illusion, a total, total cover up. you know , eamonn hits the up. you know, eamonn hits the nail on the head when he says when a lie unchallenged becomes the truth . and this is what's the truth. and this is what's happened— the truth. and this is what's happened th— the truth. and this is what's happened in this— and this is what's happened in this situation here. itv happened in this situation here. try theatht— happened in this situation here. itv thought they— happened in this situation here. itv thought they could feed the hahttt— itv thought they could feed the rebut the— itv thought they could feed the public, the insiders and media aha— public, the insiders and media and say— public, the insiders and media and say thith— public, the insiders and media and say phillip schofield had an attatr— and say phillip schofield had an attatr wtth— and say phillip schofield had an attatr wtth a— and say phillip schofield had an affair with a younger male tetteatae— affair with a younger male colleague. and— affair with a younger male colleague. and that's it. and ttearty— colleague. and that's it. and ttearty trerh — colleague. and that's it. and clearly from what we're heathe— clearly from what we're learning, it's- clearly from what we're learning, it's not just that tts— learning, it's not just that is teet— learning, it's not just that it's been more— learning, it's not just that it's been more seedy from prettttteh— it's been more seedy from production staff who are now teettht— production staff who are now reetthg there— production staff who are now feeling more empowered to speak up. feeling more empowered to speak at. where— feeling more empowered to speak up. where they-we— feeling more empowered to speak up. where they've been stunted tattere— up. where they've been stunted before,_having - up. where they've been stunted before,_having to l before, whether it's having to shah— before, whether it's having to shah-then — before, whether it's having to shah-then we— before, whether it's having to sign then we have to sign ndas, then we have to aaestteh— sign ndas, then we have to question this— sign ndas, then we have to question this man's promotion, swttt— question this man's promotion, swift promotion— question this man's promotion, swift promotion from this rherhtht— swift promotion from this rherhtht te— swift promotion from this morning to loose women. you have heehte— morning to loose women. you have heehte whe— morning to loose women. you have heehte whe wert— morning to loose women. you have people who work in— morning to loose women. you have people who work in tv for years aha— people who work in tv for years and they— people who work in tv for years and they te— people who work in tv for years and they do not— people who work in tv for years and they do not have such a wereettea— and they do not have such a promotion. we— and they do not have such a promotion. we have to ask , why promotion. we have to ask, why has— promotion. we have to ask, why has thts— promotion. we have to ask, why has thts mah— promotion. we have to ask, why has this man had— promotion. we have to ask, why has this man had this ? itv, of has this man had this? itv, of course, have said— has this man had this? itv, of course, have said they've investigated _ course, have said they've investigated this. but i think there-s— investigated this. but i think there-s ew— investigated this. but i think

there's now more evidence and tarts— there's now more evidence and tatts ter— there's now more evidence and more calls for an— there's now more evidence and more calls for an independent thwestttatteh— more calls for an independent investigation into— more calls for an independent investigation into this situation— investigation into this situation. - investigation into this situation . 13; “1“ investigation into this situation. 13; 1ng investigation into this— situation . de—man yes, because situation. de—man yes, because one of the most shocking things that we heard in that clip, that clip there was the mention of taxis . yeah. which would have taxis. yeah. which would have had gone through the had to have gone through the accounts itv . so that accounts office at itv. so that is at odds with what they've said, that they have thoroughly investigated would investigated it as it would suggest that it was all done under watch. and that's under their watch. and that's why-teet— under their watch. and that's why-heet thts— under their watch. and that's why-need this to- why we need this to be investigated— why we need this to be investigated independently. and why we need this to be iithinkgated independently. and why we need this to be iithink thisi independently. and why we need this to be iithink this is�*idependently. and why we need this to be iithink this is whyendently. and why we need this to be iithink this is why philip ly. and i think this is why philip schofield— i think this is why philip schofield coming out with statements _ schofield coming out with statements like he done yesterday— statements like he done yestertay ts— statements like he done yesterday is not doing the show no yesterday is not doing the show heawears-t— yesterday is not doing the show no-favours, is— yesterday is not doing the show no favours, is actually no more favours, is actually atttht— no more favours, is actually atttht there— no more favours, is actually adding more salt into the wound. vet-re— adding more salt into the wound. wet-re getting— adding more salt into the wound. you're getting-of- adding more salt into the wound. you're getting of people's you're getting a lot of people's hatts— you're getting a lot of people's hatts-heehte— you're getting a lot of people's backs-people who- you're getting a lot of people's backs people who are waiting backs up, people who are waiting to backs up, people who are waiting te sheat— backs up, people who are waiting te sheat eat. — backs up, people who are waiting to speak out. so— backs up, people who are waiting to speak out. so i— backs up, people who are waiting to speak out. so i don't know why— to speak out. so i don't know why -schofield - to speak out. so i don't know. why-schofield-he's why philip schofield thinks he's heter— why philip schofield thinks he's hetter that— why philip schofield thinks he's holier than thou— why philip schofield thinks he's holier than thou and he's still going— holier than thou and he's still gethg-trytht— holier than thou and he's still going trying protect going to be trying to protect the— going to be trying to protect the - because - going to be trying to protect the because isn't . the show because he isn't. wett— the show because he isn't. wett. tert— the show because he isn't. well, tell us— the show because he isn't. well, tell us about- the show because he isn't. well, tell us about what he did yesterday. phillip schofield well, tell us about what he did yesterdajhe'hillip schofield well, tell us about what he did yesterdajhe didip schofield well, tell us about what he did yesterdajhe did comeofield well, tell us about what he did yesterdajhe did come out.d because he did come out fighting, didn't he? he did come out fighting, didn't he? he did come ett yesterday.— fighting, didn't he? he did come out yesterday. he— fighting, didn't he? he did come out yesterday. he wanted- �*" 9“ “9 t: t: ’“ 1 “t37 he did come out yesterday. he wanted to �*" 9“ “9 t: t: “ c “t:37 he did come out yesterday. he wanted to save the rehatatteh— out yesterday. he wanted to save the reputation of— out yesterday. he wanted to save the reputation of the show and say that— the reputation of the show and say that there — the reputation of the show and say that there was no culture of textttty— say that there was no culture of teatttty a...— say that there was no culture of toxicity there, .the - say that there was no culture of toxicity there, the people toxicity there, that the people whe— toxicity there, that the people whe-sheathe-

toxicity there, that the people who speaking out against who were speaking out against htrh— who were speaking out against htrh-the— who were speaking out against htrh-the teat— who were speaking out against him the loud people who have him are the loud people who have a greate— him are the loud people who have a grudge agahst— him are the loud people who have a grudge against him. and it's not a grudge against him. and it's her aheat— a grudge against him. and it's not about that. _ a grudge against him. and it's not about that. and many people a grudge against him. and it's nand)out that. and many people a grudge against him. and it's nand)out newspapersiany people a grudge against him. and it's nand )0ul newspapers included,.e , and the newspapers included, have— , and the newspapers included, hawe teet— , and the newspapers included, have been stifled— , and the newspapers included, have been stifled this have been stifled with this stery— have been stifled with this stery ter— have been stifled with this stery her the— have been stifled with this story for the past few years, aha— story for the past few years, and they— story for the past few years, and they haven't— story for the past few years, and they haven't been to and they haven't been able to speak— and they haven't been able to speak eat. — and they haven't been able to speak out. people now speak speak out. people can now speak eat.— speak out. people can now speak eat-tts— speak out. people can now speak eat-tts att— speak out. people can now speak eat-tts att te— speak out. people can now speak out.-it's all to down- speak out. people can now speak out. it's all to down his out. and it's all to down his atrhtssteh.— out. and it's all to down his admission. if— out. and it's all to down his admission. if he— out. and it's all to down his admission. if he was telling the truth— admission. if he was telling the truth-the— admission. if he was telling the truth .the start,— admission. if he was telling the truth .the start, we - truth from the start, we weatth-t— truth from the start, we wouldn't probably have a big sttaatteh— wouldn't probably have a big situation like— wouldn't probably have a big situation like we— wouldn't probably have a big situation like we have now . ' “t: situation like we have now. and ahether— situation like we have now. and ahether tht— situation like we have now. and another big line— situation like we have now. and another big line from dan another big line from the dan wootton exclusive about the wootton exclusive was about the future willoughby . and future of holly willoughby. and eamonn says, i think holly should go. i doubt we'll ever see her back on the show . but he see her back on the show. but he didn't say that it was about protecting the reputation version show or indeed version of the show or indeed the lad. but he said it's the young lad. but he said it's about her own brand and protection. yes. so, amy, phil, she'll stand aside to protect herself. well, she'll stand aside to protect herself . well, the newspapers herself. well, the newspapers are herself. well, the newspapers sayht— herself. well, the newspapers are saying contrary— well, the newspapers are saying contrary stuff to thts— are saying contrary stuff to this, because _ are saying contrary stuff to this, because the newspapers are saytht—ts— this, because the newspapers are saying-is refusing- this, because the newspapers are saying is refusing to saying that holly is refusing to go saying that holly is refusing to 90 -— saying that holly is refusing to 90 . she— saying that holly is refusing to go . she doesn't— saying that holly is refusing to go . she doesn't-a- saying that holly is refusing to go . she doesn't a reason why go. she doesn't see a reason why she— go. she doesn't see a reason why she-state— go. she doesn't see a reason why she - stand down - go. she doesn't see a reason why she stand down from her she should stand down from her rete— she should stand down from her the eh— she should stand down from her role on-morning_ she should stand down from her role on-morning .- she should stand down from her role on morning . you know, role on this morning. you know, she— role on this morning. you know, she-tethe— role on this morning. you know, she-being tainted— role on this morning. you know, she-being tainted ,- role on this morning. you know, she being tainted , guilty by she is being tainted, guilty by assettatteh— she is being tainted, guilty by association philip . but the association with philip. but the way— association with philip. but the way things— association with philip. but the way thhes are— association with philip. but the way things are going, there's

teet— way things are going, there's teen-arrear- way things are going, there's been - uproar and - way things are going, there's been uproar and there's been such an uproar and there's there-te— been such an uproar and there's there-re ee— been such an uproar and there's more to come because more stuff to come out because heehte— more stuff to come out because people questioning , people are really questioning, hew— people are really questioning, hew-het— people are really questioning, how-not know- people are really questioning, how not know this, how did you not know this, hettyt— how did you not know this, hettyt-ts— how did you not know this, holly?-is your- how did you not know this, holly? is your right hand holly? this is your right hand there-s— holly? this is your right hand man. there's pictures of her wtth— man. there's pictures of her with unidentified guy. how with this unidentified guy. how did with this unidentified guy. how are yet— with this unidentified guy. how are yet het— with this unidentified guy. how did you not know— with this unidentified guy. how did you not know something was going— did you not know something was teht eh— did you not know something was tehe eh se— did you not know something was tehe eh se as— did you not know something was going on so as the— did you not know something was going on so as the way things are going on so as the way things 90i"9t_ going on so as the way things going, there— going on so as the way things are going, more stuff is going to are going, more stuff is going te he— are going, more stuff is going te he terhtht— are going, more stuff is going to be coming out. and i think hetty— to be coming out. and i think hetty ts— to be coming out. and i think hetty ts tethe— to be coming out. and i think holly is going to— to be coming out. and i think holly is going to have to be rated— holly is going to have to be tertet te— holly is going to have to be forced to stand— holly is going to have to be forced to stand down. she's an amaztht— forced to stand down. she's an amazing presenter. i think amazing presenter. but i think to amazing presenter. but i think te—hath- amazing presenter. but i think te—hath she- amazing presenter. but i think. to_back, she should to save her own back, she should do to save her own back, she should te-rttht— to save her own back, she should te-rttht ththt— to save her own back, she should do-right thing and— to save her own back, she should do right thing and start do the right thing and start fresh— do the right thing and start fresh-leave— do the right thing and start fresh-leave this- do the right thing and start fresh leave this morning. fresh and leave this morning. art— fresh and leave this morning. art what— fresh and leave this morning. art what te— fresh and leave this morning. and what do you— fresh and leave this morning. and what do you think,- fresh and leave this morning. and what do you think, steph, in terms morning a terms of this morning as a brand? because it is this warm, lovely family show, but these are damaging yeah, are damaging allegations. yeah, and coming the and they are coming out in the papers every single day. i think it's going to hard for them it's going to be hard for them to come back from this. and, you know, that to come back from this. and, you know,-that senior- know, knowing that senior eetatwest— know, knowing that senior executives were trying to put eat— executives were trying to puti eat—the executives were trying to put- eat—ttht aht out the statement of be kind and tettewtht— following caroline flack's death _rhere that- , we're learning more that attaatty— , we're learning more that attaatty-ts— , we're learning more that actually-is a- , we're learning more that actually is a culture there actually this is a culture there whtth— actually this is a culture there whtth ts— actually this is a culture there which is quite— actually this is a culture there which is quite toxic. it's not hethht— which is quite toxic. it's not helping promote people's mental hearth— helping promote people's mental heatth aha— helping promote people's mental health and their— helping promote people's mental health and their well—being. thts— health and their well—being. thts peer— health and their well—being. rhts heer yethe— health and their well—being. this poor young man, he's been tert— this poor young man, he's been tett te— this poor young man, he's been tett te the— this poor young man, he's been left to the wolves.— this poor young man, he's been left to the wolves. he hasn't got— left to the wolves. he hasn't get the —

left to the wolves. he hasn't get the rhehey— left to the wolves. he hasn't got the money or- left to the wolves. he hasn't got the money or the protection the— got the money or the protection the thith— got the money or the protection like phillip schofield . and with like phillip schofield. and with the-states— like phillip schofield. and with the - stories that - like phillip schofield. and with the stories that coming the more stories that are coming out the more stories that are coming eat—attaatty- the more stories that are coming out—actually itv. out showing that actually itv did out showing that actually itv art-pretee— out showing that actually itv did-protect-but- out showing that actually itv did protect but there did not protect him, but there were-concerned- did not protect him, but there were concerned and were more concerned and greeting— were more concerned and protecting most bankable protecting their most bankable stat— protecting their most bankable gg. whtth— protecting their most bankable star, which was— protecting their most bankable star, which was phillip schofield _ star, which was phillip schofield yeah, do star, which was phillip schofield yeah, - do know schofield yeah, and do you know what— schofield yeah, and do you know what-mewthg— schofield yeah, and do you know what-moving-in- schofield yeah, and do you know what-moving-in the| what a really moving line in the thterwtew— what a really moving line in the interview actually— what a really moving line in the interview actually is where tarhehh— interview actually is where eamonn—this. interview actually is where i eamonn—this. he eamonn talks about this. he tarts— eamonn talks about this. he tatts ateat— eamonn talks about this. he talks about. duty- eamonn talks about this. he talks about. duty of- eamonn talks about this. he talks about duty of care of talks about the duty of care of the of itv, of the top the show of itv, of the top brass of philip, to this young lad . and actually he lad. and he actually he volunteered that ruth is still in touch with the lad and taken care. and think it's forgotten care. and i think it's forgotten in of this, isn't it, that in all of this, isn't it, that there's vulnerable there's a young, vulnerable person who's seemingly been abandoned and really it should be his wellbeing and this be about his wellbeing and this is what people are forgetting. i think people have made it too math— i think people have made it too math aheat— i think people have made it too much about philip's. schofield but much about philip's. schofield hat—hy— much about philip's. schofield hat—try thts- much about philip's. schofieldj but—by this man's but you can tell by this man's atttehs— but you can tell by this man'si atttehs—yethg actions that he was very young aha— actions that he was very young and hes— actions that he was very young and hes-th— actions that he was very young and he's-in love- actions that he was very young and he's in love with and he's very in love with a rharrtet— and he's very in love with a married straight— and he's very in love with a married straight man. and now that— married straight man. and now that he-s— married straight man. and now that he's been— married straight man. and now that he's been fed— married straight man. and now that he's been fed to the press , they-re— that he's been fed to the press , they-re-te— that he's been fed to the press , they're-to keep- that he's been fed to the press , they're to keep on , they're going to keep on hahtthg— , they're going to keep on hunting-down,- , they're going to keep on. hunting-down,-to , they're going to keep on- hunting-down,-to get hunting him down, trying to get his hunting him down, trying to get hrs-aha— hunting him down, trying to get hrs-aha t— hunting him down, trying to get his-and i think- his story out. and i think ewehtaatty— his story out. and i think eventually he— his story out. and i think eventually he will have to come out eventually he will have to come eat wtth— eventually he will have to come eat wtth hrs— eventually he will have to come out with his story— eventually he will have to come out with his story because that-s— out with his story because that-s-ehty— out with his story because that's-only way- out with his story because- that's-only way-going that's the only way he's going to that's the only way he's going te get— that's the only way he's going te get-heate— that's the only way he's going to get-peace out- that's the only way he's going to get peace out of this to get any peace out of this sttaatteh. — to get any peace out of this situation. well,— to get any peace out of this situation. 31133 to get any peace out of this

situation. well, do you think senior executives going to senior executives are going to have to be culled this have to be culled at this morning? i don't morning? definitely i don't think them morning? definitely i don't think-them are- morning? definitely i don'ti think-them are given morning? definitely i don't- think-them are given itv. think any of them are given itv. i think any of them are given itv. t ten-t— think any of them are given itv. t teh-t ththt— think any of them are given itv. i don't think any— think any of them are given itv. i don't think any of— think any of them are given itv. i don't think any of them are going— i don't think any of them are gehglterhe— i don't think any of them are going-come out- i don't think any of them are going come out unscathed from going to come out unscathed from this going to come out unscathed from thts-yea— going to come out unscathed from thts-yea tat-t— going to come out unscathed from this-you can't sweep- this because you can't sweep start— this because you can't sweep start-whee- this because you can't sweep stuff-under the- stuff like this under the target.— stuff like this under the- target—have carpet. you know, they have a awry— carpet. you know, they have a tatyltare— carpet. you know, they have a tatyltare aha— carpet. you know, they have a duty care and they shouldn't duty of care and they shouldn't be duty of care and they shouldn't tee-ther— duty of care and they shouldn't be _their power- duty of care and they shouldn't be their power just to be abusing their power just to hretett— be abusing their power just to protect-shining- be abusing their power just to protect shining star who protect their shining star who ttearty— protect their shining star who treaty-a— protect their shining star who clearly-a shining- clearly wasn't a shining star. aha— clearly wasn't a shining star. art tts— clearly wasn't a shining star. and it's really— clearly wasn't a shining star. and it's really interesting- clearly wasn't a shining star. and it's really interesting that eamonn the figures eamonn says that the figures don't eamonn says that the figures dont no eamonn says that the figures don't no matter who don't change no matter who presents the show. so actually, maybe who's maybe this ferrari about who's who's big chair doesn't who's in the big chair doesn't matter. it's about ethics. it's about keeping a clean bill of health. a duty of health. it's about a duty of care. the things that get forgotten life. actually forgotten in life. and actually i right. you i think you're dead right. you know, this this young lad, i think story is going to run think this story is going to run and run. it is. we're already seethg— and run. it is. we're already seehg thhgs— 1“t: “ it is. we're already seeing things leaking 1“: “ it is. we're already seeing things leaking out like wtees— seeing things leaking out like wtees wtth— seeing things leaking out like videos with him _ seeing things leaking out like videos with him and philip, htttares— videos with him and philip,| htttares—the pictures leaking out into the hewsaershh— pictures leaking out into the newspapers. that means one of newspapers. so that means one of the—tts- the newspapers, whether it's tarry— the newspapers, whether it's daily—one] daily mail or another one, they-we— daily mail or another one, they've-more- daily mail or another one, they've more material. so they've got more material. so there-s— they've got more material. so there-s there— they've got more material. so there's more material to come eat.— there's more material to come eat—shertty. - out. unfortunate shortly. well, okay.— out. unfortunate shortly. well, okay—rah- out. unfortunate shortly. well, okay—run anal okay, this story could run and run takyi, really run stephanie takyi, really good to with us this to have you with us this morning. we'll be back with us in as well. won't in the next hour as well. won't you? okay. on to our next story

aha— you? okay. on to our next story the the— 7 okay. on to our next story now. and the government is set for now. and the government is set her a— now. and the government is set her a regat— now. and the government is set for a legal showdown with the hahterhtt— for a legal showdown with the pandemic-ahead- pandemic inquiry ahead of a teattthe— pandemic inquiry ahead of a deadline for— pandemic inquiry ahead of a deadline for the— pandemic inquiry ahead of a deadline for the cabinet office to deadline for the cabinet office te-herts— deadline for the cabinet office to-boris johnson's. to hand over boris johnson's whatsahhs— to hand over boris johnson's. whatsahhs—the whatsapps and diaries from the hahterhtt. — whatsapps and diaries from the hahterhtt. ves— whatsapps and diaries from the pandemic. yes baroness hallett. rhe— pandemic. yes baroness hallett. the thgttry-s— pandemic. yes baroness hallett. the inquiry's chairwoman- pandemic. yes baroness hallett. the inquiry's chairwoman wants to see unredacted messages between johnson sunak hancock and dozens of others, and ministers have until just 4 pm. today to provide all the material or launch a legal challenge to the ruling. well, our deputy digital,— i 9 “9 well, our deputy digital, political, hetttttat— our deputy digital, political, political editor,— our deputy digital, political, political editor, dan falvey teths— political editor, dan falvey teths as— political editor, dan falvey tehs ts ew— political editor, dan falvey joins us now. dan, so here we go agate.— joins us now. dan, so here we go agath. tt— joins us now. dan, so here we go agath. tt teets— joins us now. dan, so here we go again. it feels like— joins us now. dan, so here we go again. it feels like the pandemic— again. it feels like the pandemic diaries show us your ewtehte— pandemic diaries show us your ewtehte er— pandemic diaries show us your evidence or see— pandemic diaries show us your evidence or see you in court. the— evidence or see you in court. the government— evidence or see you in court. the government aren't digging in. the government aren't digging h. thts— the government aren't digging h. thts ts— the government aren't digging in. this is completely unprecedented, isn't it? yeah it's unprecedented, isn't it? yeah it garte— unprecedented, isn't it? yeah it's quite something, isn't it, when— it's quite something, isn't it, when yea— it's quite something, isn't it, when you think— it's quite something, isn't it, when you think about how long ago when you think about how long age thts— when you think about how long age thts hgttry— when you think about how long ago this inquiry was set up, that— ago this inquiry was set up, that thts— ago this inquiry was set up, that this inquiry is barely got going,— that this inquiry is barely got gehg, tts— that this inquiry is barely got going, it's still— that this inquiry is barely got going, it's still fighting over what— going, it's still fighting over what-tt— going, it's still fighting over what-rt tah- going, it's still fighting over what-it can get. going, it's still fighting over what it can get to what evidence it can get to reatty— what evidence it can get to reatty start— what evidence it can get to really start this— what evidence it can get to really start this this up and rahhthg. — really start this this up and running. but— really start this this up and running. but i— really start this this up and running. but i think particularly worth noting here is there's been a lot of pressure on boris johnson about the fact that these boris

johnson messages, the unredacted versions, gone to the versions, haven't gone to the inquiry. and very easy for inquiry. and it's very easy for the blame to be put at boris johnson for that. he said, i have nothing to do with this. i handed over messages to the handed over my messages to the cabinet office and it was for them to determine what should be handed to the and handed over to the inquiry and what was, as they describe it, unambiguously irrelevant and shouldn't go to the inquiry. and these same people, by these are the same people, by these are the same people, by the reported it to the the way, who reported it to the police over potential lockdown breaches at chequers. so there are to boris johnson. are no friends to boris johnson. they're not trying help him they're not trying to help him cover up, but they've cover anything up, but they've decided these are decided that these are irrelevant, they're necessary, and is now be and there is now going to be this. it looks like this legal battle because it doesn't look like to like the government's going to budge on its position, that it's not give these messages not going to give these messages over inquiry. i about over to the inquiry. i was about to say, what do you think is more happen? because more likely to happen? because that deadline more likely to happen? because that-deadline is- more likely to happen? because that-deadline is coming. that 4 pm. deadline is coming ever closer now,— that 4 pm. deadline is coming ever closer now, and they have to ever closer now, and they have te gtwe — ever closer now, and they have te gtwe att— ever closer now, and they have to give all material by then or taahth— to give all material by then or taahth thts— to give all material by then or launch this this— to give all material by then or launch this this inquiry, the regat— launch this this inquiry, the tegat—the- launch this this inquiry, the. legal—the ruling. legal challenge to the ruling. so legal challenge to the ruling. se-ththt— legal challenge to the ruling. so-think it's— legal challenge to the ruling. so think it's more likely so you think it's more likely they-re—thtsl they're going to go for this tegat—

they're going to go for this legal challenge? i think this the inquiry first asked for these several these messages several weeks ago now, cabinet have said now, and the cabinet have said no. there then deadline no. there was then a deadline put the cabinet hasn't put on it. the cabinet hasn't budged. be budged. and i'll be very surprised. the very last surprised. now, at the very last second, for some unknown reason, they suddenly turned around and just over. i think just gave them over. i think they in the they are digging in and the cabinet office is saying absolutely not. this would set a precedent. you to precedent. and if you start to give kinds of give out these kinds of messages, would it in messages, what would it mean in future? mean future? it would mean potentially other messages could go public on go forward and be made public on areas quite frankly, areas which just quite frankly, aren't relevant. and aren't aren't relevant. and i think that's a dangerous place to in. yeah. and the home to be in. yeah. and the home ettte— to be in. yeah. and the home office, cabinet— “ yeah. and the home office, cabinet office, boris's heehte— office, cabinet office, boris's heehte-saythg— office, cabinet office, boris's people saying there's people are saying there's going to people are saying there's going te—thts- people are saying there's going te—thts ahtl to be lots of trivia in this and thts— to be lots of trivia in this and this-messages— to be lots of trivia in this and this messages between rishi this is messages between rishi sweat— this is messages between rishi sahat aha— this is messages between rishi sunak and boris,— this is messages between rishi sunak and boris, liz truss, matt hahtett— hancock and dominic cummings. so tets— hancock and dominic cummings. so tets-theret— hancock and dominic cummings. so tet-s-there-s-te- let's face it, there's going to be let's face it, there's going to he-shtty— let's face it, there's going to he-shtty start- let's face it, there's going to be-spicy stuff in- let's face it, there's going to be spicy stuff in there, be some spicy stuff in there, mayhe— be some spicy stuff in there, maybe see— be some spicy stuff in there, maybe some throwaway stuff, but that-et— maybe some throwaway stuff, but that-er start— maybe some throwaway stuff, but that-of stuff, as— maybe some throwaway stuff, but that of stuff, as we've that kind of stuff, as we've seen repeatedly, leaked seen repeatedly, is leaked to humans.— journalist. it's leaked by the theta.— journalist. it's leaked by the theta-teete— journalist. it's leaked by the blob.-could be- journalist. it's leaked by the blob. could be very, very blob. this could be very, very damaging— blob. this could be very, very damaging rer— blob. this could be very, very damaging for-if- blob. this could be very, very damaging for-if it- blob. this could be very, very damaging for if it got damaging for boris if it got outt— damaging for boris if it got out, couldn't— damaging for boris if it got out, couldn't it?— damaging for boris if it got out, couldn't it? yeah “ out, couldn't it? yeah i mean, as a journalist, you often talk about what's interesting to about what's in interesting to the what's in the the public and what's in the pubuc the public and what's in the public think there's public interest. i think there's no these messages

no doubt that these messages would , very interesting would be very, very interesting to public. sure there'll to the public. i'm sure there'll be plenty of spicy messages in there, quite the there, but quite frankly, the difference it difference between is it interesting and is interesting to the public and is it the public interest? i'm it in the public interest? i'm not convinced it's in the public interest. but you can understand as wett— interest. but you can understand as wet-yea,— interest. but you can understand as well,-you, the- as well, can't you, the legitimate— as well, can't you, the. legitimate _from as well, can't you, the- legitimate _from boris legitimate concerns from boris tehhseh-s— legitimate concerns from boris johnson's-mean,- johnson's camp. i mean, he rhehttehs— mentions national security, but there-s— mentions national security, but there-s-the— mentions national security, but there's-the threat- mentions national security, but there's the threat of there's also the threat of gossip-— there's also the threat of gessth. t— there's also the threat of gossip. i mean- there's also the threat of gossip. i mean , any of those gossip. i mean, any of those whatsahh— gossip. i mean, any of those whatsapp messages can contain very— whatsapp messages can contain very damaging— whatsapp messages can contain very damaging information, hetehttatty— very damaging information, hetehttatty. — very damaging information, potentially . v431“ very damaging information, potentially . “31“ 139 potentially. yeah, absolutely. and exactly why the and that's exactly why the cabinet office got involved and said willing to said that they're not willing to budge on this. and as i say, though, boris johnson says that he the one refusing to he is not the one refusing to hand messages and hand over these messages and saying, don't blame me for any of i'm not part of it. of this. i'm not a part of it. i've my bit. i handed over i've done my bit. i handed over the messages to the cabinet office. it was cabinet office. it was for the cabinet office. it was for the cabinet office. what should office. then decide what should be redacted. and they then put them forward inquiry. and them forward to the inquiry. and he's me out of he's saying, leave me out of this. and no this. don't blame me. and no doubt will be crying. doubt boris will be crying. infamy. infamy. all got infamy. infamy. they've all got it. infamy. infamy. they've all got tt. _ee— infamy. infamy. they've all got tt-ehte agate.- infamy. infamy. they've all got it. once again. onto it. infamy once again. onto ahether— it. infamy once again. onto ahether stery— it. infamy once again. onto another story now. a it. infamy once again. onto- another story now.-a big another story now. there's a big heasthg—haha- another story now. there's a big housing huha labour housing face off, a huha labour have— housing face off, a huha labour have stepped— housing face off, a huha labour have stepped up— housing face off, a huha labour have stepped up and said if they

get thre— have stepped up and said if they get hte hewer— have stepped up and said if they get into power they're going to thtretate— get into power they're going to introduce purchase get into power they're going to introdton purchase get into power they're going to introdton land purchase get into power they're going to introdton land priceiase orders on land at cut price hrttes— orders on land at cut price hrttes ter— orders on land at cut price prices for developers . prices for developers. meanwhile, - prices for developers. meanwhile, tory donors are threatehthg— meanwhile, tory donors are threatening to— meanwhile, tory donors are threatening to withhold money hetase— threatening to withhold money tetase et— threatening to withhold money because of nimbyism. dan how have— because of nimbyism. dan how have we— because of nimbyism. dan how have we get— because of nimbyism. dan how have we get te— because of nimbyism. dan how have we got to a— because of nimbyism. dan how have we got to a position where the tatew— have we got to a position where the labour party— have we got to a position where the labour party are becoming the labour party are becoming the tarry— the labour party are becoming the party et— the labour party are becoming the party of housebuilding? it's the party of housebuilding? tt-s garte— the party of housebuilding? it's quite incredible- the party of housebuilding? it's quite incredible isn't it, because housebuilding has been a problem in this country for a number of years and for a number of years there have been pledges made. we've seen it, be it the last election, where a target was set by the government for 300,000 homes a year, or sidique khan has made number of khan has made a number of pledges what intends pledges about what he intends to do every time a party do in london. every time a party makes a pledge on housing, it has failed to deliver on it. it has failed to deliver on it. it has failed to hit its own targets. so it's funny, isn't it? now got labour who it? you've now got labour who are. easier for to are. it's easier for them to take make these stances because they opposition. they take make these stances because they have opposition. they take make these stances because they have oppositiithathey take make these stances because they have oppositiithat they don't have to prove that they can deliver. they just can promise they want. and promise what they want. and you'd imagine there'll- you'd imagine there'll some you'd imagine there'll be some pretty— you'd imagine there'll be some pretty-attteh- you'd imagine there'll be some pretty-action from i pretty stiff legal action from the—tt— pretty stiff legal action from the—tr thetr- pretty stiff legal action from the—if their land| the landowners if their land was attempted — the landowners if their land was attempted-seized.- the landowners if their land was attempted seized. absolute attempted to be seized. absolute but attempted to be seized. absolute tat tt-tt— attempted to be seized. absolute tat tt-tt te— attempted to be seized. absolute but it'll be interesting— attempted to be seized. absolute but it'll be interesting to- attempted to be seized. absolute

but it'll be interesting to see- but it'll be interesting to see whether you anyone can whether you know anyone can deliver gain or whether, quite deliver a gain or whether, quite frankly, is more promises, frankly, this is more promises, more that nothing would frankly, this is more promises, morecome that nothing would frankly, this is more promises, morecome from iat nothing would frankly, this is more promises, morecome from . dan, ing would frankly, this is more promises, morecome from . dan, reallytuld frankly, this is more promises, morecome from . dan, really good ever come from. dan, really good to ever come from. dan, really good te see— ever come from. dan, really good te yet— ever come from. dan, really good te yet thts— ever come from. dan, really good to see you this morning.- i dan, really good to see you this morning. thank you— to see you this morning. thank yet very— to see you this morning. thank yet very rhtth.— to see you this morning. thank you very much. fabulous well, let you very much. fabulous well, tetlthew— you very much. fabulous well, let-know what— you very much. fabulous well, let-know what you - you very much. fabulous well, let know what you make of any let us know what you make of any of let us know what you make of any et these— let us know what you make of any of those stories— let us know what you make of any of those stories that— let us know what you make of any of those stories that we touched on of those stories that we touched eh wtth— of those stories that we touched eh wtth tat— of those stories that we touched on with dan .views- of those stories that we touched on with dan views at gb news on with dan gb views at gb news . wew the— on with dan gb views at gb news .com . now the-is— on with dan gb views at gb news .com . now the is 6:18. .com. now the time is 6:18. tets— .com. now the time is 6:18. tet-s trthg— .com. now the time is 6:18. let's bring you— .com. now the time is 6:18. let's bring you up to date with the rest— let's bring you up to date with the rest et— let's bring you up to date with the rest of today's— let's bring you up to date with the rest of today's top stories as-government- the rest of today's top stories as government says it as and the government says it whtt— as and the government says it wttt treweht— as and the government says it will prevent vape_ as and the government says it will prevent vape ads from targethg— will prevent vape ads from targeting young people. ttthtsters— targeting young people. ministers say— targeting young people. ministers say they- targeting young people. ministers say they will stop retailers from allowing free samples to given to samples of vapes to be given to children in england. there will also be a review into banning retailers selling nicotine free vapes to under 18 seconds. russia has attacked ukraine with athtrt— russia has attacked ukraine with athtrt atr— russia has attacked ukraine with a third air raid— russia has attacked ukraine with a third air raid on— russia has attacked ukraine with a third air raid on kyiv in 24 hes — a third air raid on kyiv in 24 hes the— a third air raid on kyiv in 24 hours. the capital's air tetehtes— hours. the capital's air defences repelled the drone gate,— defences repelled the drone gate, ttt— defences repelled the drone strike, but one— defences repelled the drone strike, but one person was three— strike, but one person was ttttet aha— strike, but one person was killed and four— strike, but one person was killed and four others were thttret. — killed and four others were injured. when— killed and four others were injured. when their apartment tttttthg— injured. when their apartment tttttthg was— injured. when their apartment building was hit— injured. when their apartment building was hit by falling tetrts— building was hit by falling tetrts aha— building was hit by falling debris and caught on fire. and hestttattty— debris and caught on fire. and hospitality businesses are treating— hospitality businesses are pleading with— hospitality businesses are pleading with the government to

trewte— pleading with the government to teeth them — pleading with the government to provide them with— pleading with the government to provide them with more support. rats.— provide them with more support. rats. tars— provide them with more support. rats. tars art— provide them with more support. pubs, bars and restaurants- provide them with more support. pubs, bars and restaurants say their average bills have increased by a staggering 81% which all local pub like it's good and my mate gary runs it and we had a huge conversation actually about the cost of living crisis, what it meant because they were threatening at one point to turn off the heating in the winter to keep the prices down. so they gave us a cheap beer or cold. so a choice cheap beer or cold. so we said, well, would you go for ideally, no, neither. but what's interesting heating interesting about the heating thing a lot of old lads, thing is that a lot of old lads, a lot of boys, they go to a lot of old boys, they go to the pub in the day and that's their friendship circle. it's where they have their communities, stay where they have their commiandes, stay where they have their commiand i, stay where they have their commiand i think stay where they have their commiand i think that's stay where they have their commiand i think that's artay warm. and i think that's a hugely important part of the fabnc hugely important part of the fabric country , that fabric of this country, that togetherness after the pandemic coming together. and they need to . but the pubs are to be warm. but the pubs are caughtin to be warm. but the pubs are caught in an impossible position. well, my local position. yeah, well, my local pub has really diversified

itself and it actually started dunng itself and it actually started during the pandemic. so it's got this big beer garden— during the pandemic. so it's got this big beer garden now,- : ” “9 : i so it's got this big beer garden now, but it atse— this big beer garden now, but it atse tees— this big beer garden now, but it atse tees a— this big beer garden now, but it also does a tea— this big beer garden now, but it also does a tea and coffee memthg. — also does a tea and coffee memthg. -se- also does a tea and coffee morning. _solhasl also does a tea and coffee. morning. _solhas that morning. yeah. so it has that going— morning. yeah. so it has that gemg-tt— morning. yeah. so it has that gemg-tt tees— morning. yeah. so it has that gemg-tt tees a- morning. yeah. so it has that going it does a cards game going on. it does a cards game ththg— going on. it does a cards game ththg at— going on. it does a cards game um, thing at lunchtime like a mem— um, thing at lunchtime like a tthth tttt— um, thing at lunchtime like a lunch club and— um, thing at lunchtime like a lunch club and then it's doing teet— lunch club and then it's doing teetlwett. — lunch club and then it's doing food-well. never- lunch club and then it's doing food well. never used food as well. never used to do teet— food as well. never used to do teet bega— food as well. never used to do food before,-it's- food as well. never used to do food before, it's had to food before, but it's had to tetse— food before, but it's had to because-simply- food before, but it's had to because simply isn't because there simply isn't ehetgh— because there simply isn't enough coming because there simply isn't- enough _coming through because there simply isn't enoupeople coming through because there simply isn't enoupeople buyingning through because there simply isn't enoupeople buying beerthrough because there simply isn't enoupeople buying beer alone h because there simply isn't enoupeople buying beer alone . i with people buying beer alone. i ththt— with people buying beer alone. i ththt there-s— with people buying beer alone. i think there's lots— with people buying beer alone. i think there's lots of pubs that are-te— think there's lots of pubs that are-te that. - think there's lots of pubs thati are-do that. that's are having to do that. that's rtght— are having to do that. that's rtght. oh— are having to do that. that's right. on downside, i'd be right. on the downside, i'd be interested from interested to know from the viewers there the viewers out there what's the most pint you've most expensive pint you've bought because i went bought recently? because i went via liverpool street station on bought recently? because i went via way'pool street station on bought recently? because i went via way to ol street station on bought recently? because i went via way to see treet station on bought recently? because i went via way to see myt station on bought recently? because i went via way to see my familyn on bought recently? because i went via way to see my family attn bought recently? because i went via way to see my family at the my way to see my family at the weekend. what? i for weekend. guess what? i paid for a lager at liverpool a pint of lager at liverpool street station in london, £7 750. there you go. i was 750. ah, there you go. i was ts — 750. ah, there you go. i was close. almost— 750. ah, there you go. i was close. almost-a- 750. ah, there you go. i was close. almost-a heartl close. almost had a heart attack. now they're no doubt going blame their utility going to blame their utility bills. but i'll tell you what, i take a sit down. so angry, take a sit down. i'm so angry, ali. i drank it. oh, well, that-s— ali. i drank it. oh, well, thats the— ali. i drank it. oh, well, that's the only- g t: 1

atett— pub? and do you have concerns atett-tatest— pub? and do you have concerns about-latest hike- pub? and do you have concerns about latest hike in energy about the latest hike in energy tits— about the latest hike in energy tits-what— about the latest hike in energy bills-what it— about the latest hike in energy bills what it means for your bills and what it means for your tetat— bills and what it means for your tetat-ttt— bills and what it means for your tetat-ttt te— bills and what it means for your local-but do stay- bills and what it means for your local but do stay with us local well, but do stay with us tetse— local well, but do stay with us tetatse—te- local well, but do stay with us because—to bring. local well, but do stay with us. because _to bring you because we're going to bring you the-et— because we're going to bring you the-er a— because we're going to bring you the-er a we— because we're going to bring you the-of a 170 year- because we're going to bring you the of a 170 year old the story of a 170 year old wthtmttt— the story of a 170 year old windmill that's— the story of a 170 year old windmill that's been restored to its windmill that's been restored to tts termer— windmill that's been restored to tts rermer gtery— windmill that's been restored to its former glory by— windmill that's been restored to its former glory by dedicated wetthteers— its former glory by dedicated wetthteers .— its former glory by dedicated volunteers . it's— its former glory by dedicated volunteers . it's in the middle volunteers. it's in the middle of volunteers. it's in the middle et a— volunteers. it's in the middle et a ttt— volunteers. it's in the middle et a ttt te— volunteers. it's in the middle of a cul de sac— volunteers. it's in the middle of a cul de sac in— volunteers. it's in the middle of a cul de sac in london. it's a great— of a cul de sac in london. it's a great stery.— of a cul de sac in london. it's a great story. that's next. this is a great story. that's next. this ts treattast— a great story. that's next. this is breakfast on— a great story. that's next. this is breakfast on gb— a great story. that's next. this is breakfast on gb news.

welcome back. the i welcome - back. the time iwelcome- back. the time is iwateme— back. the time is 624. still tets— back. the time is 624. still tets te— back. the time is 624. still lots to come— back. the time is 624. still lots to come on— back. the time is 624. still lots to come on today's program . hm,— lots to come on today's program . um, yeah— lots to come on today's program . um, yeah, wett— lots to come on today's program . um, yeah, we'll experience etert— . um, yeah, we'll experience etert htgh— . um, yeah, we'll experience record high temperatures this weekend. — record high temperatures this weekend. much— record high temperatures this weekend. iiuti.“ e weekend. much like the bank holiday. but with so many people eager to get in the water to cool off, there are concerns for people's safety in the water. and at 645, hear the warning and at 645, we hear the warning of a mother whose son tragically drowned at a summer swimming spot. i drowned at a summer swimming spot . i think that's going to be spot. i think that's going to be

a reatty— spot. i think that's going to be a really powerful— i think that's going to be a really powerful interview as the tettte— a really powerful interview as the police face— a really powerful interview as the police face backlash over ttats— the police face backlash over ttahs te— the police face backlash over ttahs te stet— the police face backlash over plans to stop attending mental heatth— plans to stop attending mental heatth tarts— plans to stop attending mental health calls at— plans to stop attending mental health calls at 720, we'll ask if health calls at 720, we'll ask tt tts— health calls at 720, we'll ask tt tt-s the— health calls at 720, we'll ask if it's the right— health calls at 720, we'll ask if it's the right move or if tts— if it's the right move or if tt-s gethg— if it's the right move or if tt-s gethg te— if it's the right move or if it's going to put lives in tanger— it's going to put lives in danger amt— it's going to put lives in danger and get in touch all the tstat— danger and get in touch all the tstat ways— danger and get in touch all the tstat ways et— danger and get in touch all the usual ways, of course. e usual ways, of course. email gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet us at gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet us at gb news. and we've already had quite a few whizzing in yet. we're talking about pubs we're talking about pubys this we're talking about pubs this memthg. — we're talking about pubs this memthg. tets— we're talking about pubs this morning. lots of— we're talking about pubs this morning. lots of concern after the— morning. lots of concern after the rarest— morning. lots of concern after the latest rise— morning. lots of concern after the latest rise in— morning. lots of concern after the latest rise in energy bills. wtt— the latest rise in energy bills. wttt they— the latest rise in energy bills. wttt they te— the latest rise in energy bills. will they be able— the latest rise in energy bills. will they be able to survive? wett— will they be able to survive? wat, tatte— will they be able to survive? well, david says,— will they be able to survive? well, david says, don't drink. well, david says, i don't drink. i well, david says, i don't drink. t-reatty— well, david says, i don't drink. t-reatty tare— well, david says, i don't drink. i-really care. but- well, david says, i don't drink. i really care. but when i don't really care. but when you— i don't really care. but when yet say— i don't really care. but when yet say ttts— i don't really care. but when you say pubs need government hert— you say pubs need government helpt what— you say pubs need government help, what they're _ you say pubs need government help, what they're really saying is help, what they're really saying ts they— help, what they're really saying is they _taxpayers- help, what they're really saying is they taxpayers money. is they need taxpayers money. they-re— is they need taxpayers money. they-re het— is they need taxpayers money. they-re net at— is they need taxpayers money. they're not an emergency service . -say— they're not an emergency service . -say that.— they're not an emergency service . _say that, david,- they're not an emergency service . _say that, david, but| . well, you say that, david, but don't forget, the don't forget, during the pandemic, lot of pandemic, they got a lot of government money because otherwise with otherwise they were faced with closure and closure and bankruptcy. and then we more lockdowns. they've we had more lockdowns. they've never been any slack, never really been cut any slack, i and then we had i don't think. and then we had the ukraine war, the soaring energy costs. that's echoed energy costs. and that's echoed by who says aslef by andrew here, who says aslef pub landlord. i do feel that i will have to walk away from my tenants. as mentioned, the cost of spiralled out control and

of spiralled out of control and i'm unable to afford them any more. more drinking at more. more people drinking at home and unable to afford to dnnk home and unable to afford to drink at their local pub and we were talking this. were just talking about this. the a round now can the price of a round now can be eye—watering yeah, was out in eye—watering yeah, i was out in sheretttth— eye—watering yeah, i was out in sheretttth at— eye—watering yeah, i was out in shoreditch at the— 19,1; “9 yeah, i was out in shoreditch at the weekend and ett— shoreditch at the weekend and round, so seven— shoreditch at the weekend and round, so seven drinks is £95. tts— round, so seven drinks is £95. it's unbelievable— round, so seven drinks is £95. it's unbelievable .— round, so seven drinks is £95. it's unbelievable . so it was it's unbelievable. so it was met— it's unbelievable. so it was tteo te— it's unbelievable. so it was tteo te tty— it's unbelievable. so it was tree te tty ty— it's unbelievable. so it was £100 to buy by a small group of teette— £100 to buy by a small group of teette a— £100 to buy by a small group of teette a thth— £100 to buy by a small group of people a drink. it's— £100 to buy by a small group of people a drink. it's ridiculous . tht— people a drink. it's ridiculous . aha tt— people a drink. it's ridiculous . and it does— people a drink. it's ridiculous . and it does it— people a drink. it's ridiculous . and it does it becomes a ttatry— . and it does it becomes a ttatry amt— . and it does it becomes a luxury and you— . and it does it becomes a luxury and you can see why many teette— luxury and you can see why many teette wette— luxury and you can see why many teette wettt str— luxury and you can see why many people would sit at— luxury and you can see why many people would sit at home or tettte— people would sit at home or tettte te— people would sit at home or decide to drink— people would sit at home or decide to drink at home because you decide to drink at home because yet ttteratty— decide to drink at home because you literally can't— decide to drink at home because you literally can't afford to go out you literally can't afford to go ett amt— you literally can't afford to go ett amt tty— you literally can't afford to go ett amt tty a— you literally can't afford to go out and buy a round of pub any tatt— out and buy a round of pub any more. back in— out and buy a round of pub any more. back in the— out and buy a round of pub any more. back in the day- more. back in the day pre—pandemic or pre utility bills. going out for a beer was just something you did routinely. now going out for a few is becoming like let's few jobs is becoming like let's go out for a meal. how that used to be becoming an expensive luxury drink in unless luxury to drink in pubs unless you the spoons, of you drink in the spoons, of course. of course. but you course. yeah of course. but you have do course. yeah of course. but you have-te have— course. yeah of course. but you have _do have to - course. yeah of course. but you have-do have to think. have to you do have to think atett— have to you do have to think atett the— have to you do have to think about the landlords because about the pub landlords because as yet— about the pub landlords because as yet say,— about the pub landlords because as yet say, stte— about the pub landlords because as you say, since the pandemic, it's as you say, since the pandemic, tt-s-reatty— as you say, since the pandemic, it's really challenging it's been a really challenging ttme—het- it's been a really challengingi ttme—het gethg time. yeah. and it's not going to time. yeah. and it's not going te-ttme— time. yeah. and it's not going to-time soon.- time. yeah. and it's not going to-time soon. it- time. yeah. and it's not going to time soon. it seems.

to end any time soon. it seems. so to end any time soon. it seems. se te— to end any time soon. it seems. se te get— to end any time soon. it seems. se te get th— to end any time soon. it seems. so do get in touch— to end any time soon. it seems. so do get in touch if you're a pub— so do get in touch if you're a ttt tahttert— so do get in touch if you're a pub landlord or— so do get in touch if you're a pub landlord or you just love yetr— pub landlord or you just love yetr tetat— pub landlord or you just love yetr tetat ttt— pub landlord or you just love your local pub and you don't want— your local pub and you don't want te— your local pub and you don't want te-tt— your local pub and you don't want rent 90,— your local pub and you don't want to-it go, do- your local pub and you don't want to it go, do get in want to see it go, do get in tetth— want to see it go, do get in tetth wtth— want to see it go, do get in touch with us— want to see it go, do get in touch with us this morning. gb vtews.— touch with us this morning. gb vtews. tt— touch with us this morning. gb views. gb news.— touch with us this morning. gb views. gb news. com save our arms— views. gb news. com save our ttts .— views. gb news. com save our ttts. wew— views. gb news. com save our ttts. wew thts— views. gb news. com save our pubs. now this is— views. gb news. com save our pubs. now this is a lovely stery.— pubs. now this is a lovely stery. vet— pubs. now this is a lovely story. you might associate wthtmttts— story. you might associate windmills with— story. you might associate windmills with the netherlands, but windmills with the netherlands, ttt the — windmills with the netherlands, but the shirley— windmills with the netherlands, but the shirley windmill in setth— but the shirley windmill in south london— but the shirley windmill in south london was one of the last te— south london was one of the last te te— south london was one of the last ones to be built— south london was one of the last ones to be built in— south london was one of the last ones to be built in england in test— ones to be built in england in 1854, ttst— ones to be built in england in 1854, just down— ones to be built in england in 1854, just down the road from amt— 1854, just down the road from amt t— 1854, just down the road from me. and i want— 1854, just down the road from me. and i want to- 1854, just down the road from me. ' 1854, just down the road from me. and i want to take my kids the grade two listed building is reopen to the public for the first time since the pandemic. and our london reporter lisa hartle a tour , a hartle went along for a tour, a 170 year old windmill is not what you'd expect to find in a cul de sac in croydon. shirley wthtmttt— cul de sac in croydon. shirley wthtmttt ts— cul de sac in croydon. shirley windmill is a— cul de sac in croydon. shirley windmill is a grade- i 93 51ti “ :“ shirley windmill is a grade two listed tttttthg— windmill is a grade two listed tttttthg amt— windmill is a grade two listed building and one— windmill is a grade two listed building and one of the last wthtmttts— building and one of the last windmills to— building and one of the last windmills to be— building and one of the last windmills to be built in thgtaht. — windmills to be built in england. for- windmills to be built in england. windmills to be built in- england. for many people are very surprised that it's here. yeah, because it's not that obvious, although you can see it quite plainly from the main road. it does entail looking up the close and many people who

visit do so . having lived in visit do so. having lived in shirley for quite a few years and didn't even know it was here. so the windmill is owned amt— here. so the windmill is owned and maintained— here. so the windmill is owned and maintained by— “t:3”t3; so the windmill is owned and maintained by croydon tethttt— and maintained by croydon tethttt .— and maintained by croydon council , but— and maintained by croydon council, but it's and maintained by croydon council , but it's volunteers council, but it's volunteers the— council, but it's volunteers ttte tatte— council, but it's volunteers like david who— council, but it's volunteers like david who open it up to the tttttt. — like david who open it up to the tttttt. wett— like david who open it up to the public. well, it— like david who open it up to the public. well, it was— like david who open it up to the public. 11333 e t:3t9 public. well, it was originally built to grind wheat into flour for making bread . in around for making bread. in around 1900, there were over 10,000 windmills in england. 1900, there were over 10,000 windmills in england . the number windmills in england. the number now is probably less than a thousand, and there are very few that are actually complete. and in a state of restoration like this one. yes the mill is five floors high and each floor has got its own purpose . and as we got its own purpose. and as we come down through the mill, you would follow the grain as it came from the bin floor, through the stones, through the spout floor, and then to down the

ground floor. yeah. when this mill was in use, it would have been a bit more dangerous even than it is now. been a bit more dangerous even than it is now . there would have than it is now. there would have been handrail whatsoever . and been no handrail whatsoever. and the steps which are original, would have been almost like ladders and very little in the way of guards on open gearing . way of guards on open gearing. shirley windmill is special because it's a remarkable survivor. you can see views over all of london. you can see wembley, you can see the shard, you can see a great deal of london from the top of this mill . the windmill was originally ttttt— . the windmill was originally ttttt eh— . the windmill was originally ttttt et a— . the windmill was originally built on a field,— the windmill was originally built on a field, but over the years— built on a field, but over the years the— built on a field, but over the years, the land— built on a field, but over the years, the land has been tewetetet— years, the land has been developed and today it's a residential— developed and today it's a residential close. yeah “ residential close. yeah so when we ttrst— residential close. yeah so when we ttrst tht— residential close. yeah so when we first kind of moved here, we were really astounded that there was this fantastic windmill just in the middle of, i suppose, just like a normal housing estate. know, it's estate. so, you know, it's really beautiful to have it here. it's a nice view, a nice ththg— here. it's a nice view, a nice ththg te— here. it's a nice view, a nice ththg te watt— here. it's a nice view, a nice thing to walk past- “t3;”t3; it's a nice view, a nice thing to walk past each day. and you thing to walk past each day. and yet yet— thing to walk past each day. and yet yet ten-t— thing to walk past each day. and you you don't tire— thing to walk past each day. and you you don't tire really of

tea-t- you you don't tire really of ever and walking you you don't tire really of- ever-and walking past. ever seeing it and walking past. so ever seeing it and walking past. se-semeththg- so yes, it's something we've ehteyet— so yes, it's something we've ehteyet-years- so yes, it's something we've- enjoyed _years because enjoyed all these years because the wthtmttt— enjoyed all these years because the windmill has— enjoyed all these years because the windmill has been a unique ththg— the windmill has been a unique ththg-teette— the windmill has been a unique ththg-teette ew— the windmill has been a unique thing people now to see what thing for people now to see what it thing for people now to see what tt-ttte— thing for people now to see what it-like before— thing for people now to see what it-like before and— thing for people now to see what it like before and so it was like before and so estettatty— it was like before and so estettatty a— it was like before and so especially a lot of children who te— especially a lot of children who come to visit— especially a lot of children who come to visit the— especially a lot of children who come to visit the windmill at amt— come to visit the windmill at amt we— come to visit the windmill at amt we reatty— come to visit the windmill at and we really enjoy and a lot of teette— and we really enjoy and a lot of teette ethe— and we really enjoy and a lot of people even who— and we really enjoy and a lot of people even who come to visit us, people even who come to visit they— people even who come to visit they atways— people even who come to visit us, they always ask, what is thts— us, they always ask, what is this windmill— us, they always ask, what is this windmill about? ”139 this windmill about? shirley wmtmttt— this windmill about? shirley wthtmttt ts— this windmill about? shirley windmill is usually open on the first sunday of every month . first sunday of every month. lisa hartle gb news london on while live just down the road from from that and i never knew it was there and i've just been told by one of the lads here that there's one in brixton just around the corner to windmills and the funny thing is this this is hundreds of years of old technology, they technology, but if they had their way, the lot, then their way, the eco lot, then london be covered in wind london would be covered in wind turbines. it's almost like semettmes— turbines. it's almost like sometimes-going. turbines. it's almost like. sometimes-going back turbines. it's almost like- sometimes-going back in sometimes eddie going back in ttme. — sometimes eddie going back in ttme. -wett— sometimes eddie going back in time. _well,-you. sometimes eddie going back ini time. _well,-you go. time. yeah, well, there you go. you've road trip. you can you've got a road trip. you can go two windmills. yeah, it's go see two windmills. yeah, it's a nice pubs near— go see two windmills. yeah, it's a nice pubs near them- go see two windmills. yeah, it's a nice pubs near them as- 9:3t “t: yeah, it's a nice pubs near them as well. so a nice pubs near them as well. sente— a nice pubs near them as well. seite my— a nice pubs near them as well. seite my ttt— a nice pubs near them as well. so-do my bit to— a nice pubs near them as well. so do my bit to support the so i'll do my bit to support the tetat— so i'll do my bit to support the local hospitality— so i'll do my bit to support the local hospitality trade while t-m — local hospitality trade while t-m -veah— local hospitality trade while t-m -veah very- local hospitality trade while i'm yeah, very good. i'm there. yeah, very good. i ththt— i'm there. yeah, very good. i ththt yet-we— i'm there. yeah, very good. i

think you've got— i'm there. yeah, very good. i think you've got a- i'm there. yeah, very good. i think you've got a plan- i'm there. yeah, very good. i think you've got a plan there on a sunday. just. you just a sunday. you just. you just heard from lisa hartle. a sunday. you just. you just hea open from lisa hartle. a sunday. you just. you just hea open onfrom lisa hartle. a sunday. you just. you just hea open on atm lisa hartle. a sunday. you just. you just hea open on a sunday.1artle. a sunday. you just. you just hea open on a sunday. you e. a sunday. you just. you just hea open on a sunday. you have it's open on a sunday. you have to a lovely plan your to make a lovely plan with your family. beautiful. lovely. great. well, stay with us. as ministers a course for ministers are on a course for a bitter legal battle over boris johnson's messages, johnson's whatsapp messages, we'll be going through the papers mccgwire papers with scarlett mccgwire dyer and fraser myers. that's next.

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thter— mail reveals kyiv starmer is thter te— mail reveals kyiv starmer is under to fire— mail reveals kyiv starmer is under to fire return money tehatet— under to fire return money tehatet ty— under to fire return money donated by agreeing energy tthter— donated by agreeing energy funder from _ donated by agreeing energy funder from just stop oil and the t— funder from just stop oil and the t say— funder from just stop oil and the t say the— funder from just stop oil and the i say the government plans to the i say the government plans te tratt— the i say the government plans te tratt tewh— the i say the government plans to crack down on— the i say the government plans to crack down on wish cycling trgthg— to crack down on wish cycling urging households to recycle tess— urging households to recycle tess th— urging households to recycle tess th at— urging households to recycle less in an order— urging households to recycle less in an order to cut waste . less in an order to cut waste. etay— less in an order to cut waste. etay wett— less in an order to cut waste. okay well joining— less in an order to cut waste. okay well joining us to go thretgh— okay well joining us to go through these— okay well joining us to go through these stories in more tetat— through these stories in more tetatt ts— through these stories in more detail is the— through these stories in more detail is the deputy editor of stttet— detail is the deputy editor of stttet .— detail is the deputy editor of spiked , fraser— detail is the deputy editor of spiked , fraser myers, and former spiked, fraser myers, and former tatetr— spiked, fraser myers, and former labour adviser— spiked, fraser myers, and former labour adviser scarlett mccgwire reatty— labour adviser scarlett mccgwire reatty geet— labour adviser scarlett mccgwire reatty geet te— labour adviser scarlett mccgwire really good to see— labour adviser scarlett mccgwire really good to see you both this memthg— really good to see you both this memthg . — really good to see you both this memthg . se— really good to see you both this morning . so many— really good to see you both this morning . 19 really good to see you both this morning . 9 morning. so many big stories going on today, fraser. let's take a look at the front page of the times, shall we? this is bods the times, shall we? this is boris johnson's whatsapp . that boris johnson's whatsapp. that deaduneis boris johnson's whatsapp. that deadline is looming ever closer, isn't it? yes. so the head of the— isn't it? yes. so the head of the tovtt— isn't it? yes. so the head of the covm inquiry- e 17 yes. so the head of the covid inquiry wants boris tehhseh— the covid inquiry wants boris tehhseh te— the covid inquiry wants boris johnson to release all of his whats/ttt— johnson to release all of his whatsapp messages from the tattemtt— whatsapp messages from the pandemic unredacted and his mates.— pandemic unredacted and his ttartes. he-s— pandemic unredacted and his diaries. he's got— pandemic unredacted and his diaries. he's got about 24 heteteets— diaries. he's got about 24 notebooks from the period , and notebooks from the period, and hats— notebooks from the period, and terts amt— notebooks from the period, and boris and other— notebooks from the period, and boris and other ministers are saying,— boris and other ministers are saythg, he— boris and other ministers are saythg, we— boris and other ministers are saying, no, we don't want to reweat— saying, no, we don't want to reweat thts— saying, no, we don't want to reveal this information. some of it reveal this information. some of tt tat— reveal this information. some of tt ge— reveal this information. some of tt ge te— reveal this information. some of tt ge te the— reveal this information. some of it can go to the inquiry, but her— it can go to the inquiry, but net at— it can go to the inquiry, but net at et— it can go to the inquiry, but not all of it— it can go to the inquiry, but not all of it is— it can go to the inquiry, but not all of it is relevant. is there— not all of it is relevant. is there the— not all of it is relevant. is there kind of— not all of it is relevant. is there kind of line that they're

tatthg— there kind of line that they're tatthg hew— there kind of line that they're taking now? it's— there kind of line that they're taking now? it's interesting tetse— taking now? it's interesting because people will remember ttst— because people will remember ttst tast— because people will remember ttst tast week— because people will remember just last week the diary of terts— just last week the diary of boris johnson— just last week the diary of boris johnson led to the tartygate— boris johnson led to the partygate scandal rearing its heat— partygate scandal rearing its head interview.— partygate scandal rearing its head interview. you know , boris head interview. you know, boris ttttthg— head interview. you know, boris ttttthg tewh— head interview. you know, boris putting down that— head interview. you know, boris putting down that he'd had lunch wtth— putting down that he'd had lunch wtth hts— putting down that he'd had lunch with his mother— putting down that he'd had lunch with his mother and with and wtth— with his mother and with and with various— with his mother and with and with various people at chequers . ttt,— with various people at chequers . ttt, yet— with various people at chequers . ttt, yet mew,— with various people at chequers . but, you know, there's also the— . but, you know, there's also the hahtett— . but, you know, there's also the hancock files. people will remember the _ the hancock files. people will remember the telegraphs investigation— remember the telegraphs investigation of matt hancock's whatsttt— investigation of matt hancock's whats/ttt tta— investigation of matt hancock's whatsapp via isabel oakeshott. and whatsapp via isabel oakeshott. aha yet— whatsapp via isabel oakeshott. me yet mew— whatsapp via isabel oakeshott. and you know that did obviously reweat— and you know that did obviously reweat a— and you know that did obviously reweat a tet— and you know that did obviously reveal a lot of— and you know that did obviously reveal a lot of things that tretatty— reveal a lot of things that probably wouldn't have come out in probably wouldn't have come out th the— probably wouldn't have come out in the official— probably wouldn't have come out in the official inquiry , how in the official inquiry, how mthtsters— in the official inquiry, how ministers responded to various whether— ministers responded to various news, whether they were strictly tettewthg— news, whether they were strictly tettewthg the — news, whether they were strictly following the science or not, or whether— following the science or not, or whether politics— following the science or not, or whether politics was allowed to get th— whether politics was allowed to get th the — whether politics was allowed to get th the way— whether politics was allowed to get in the way of— whether politics was allowed to get in the way of certain tettstets— get in the way of certain decisions. is— get in the way of certain decisions. is the message, you mew— decisions. is the message, you knew .— decisions. is the message, you knew , ttatthg— decisions. is the message, you know , placing messaging over know, placing the messaging over atttatty— know, placing the messaging over atttatty the — know, placing the messaging over actually the scientific advice, ththgs— actually the scientific advice, ththgs hte— actually the scientific advice, things like that. _ actually the scientific advice, things like that. so clearly , things like that. so clearly, there— things like that. so clearly, there ts— things like that. so clearly, there ts a— things like that. so clearly, there is a lot— things like that. so clearly, there is a lot that we could team— there is a lot that we could team trem — there is a lot that we could learn from these- there is a lot that we could learn from these whatsapps, tartttttarty— learn from these whatsapps, particularly boris johnson and whe— particularly boris johnson and whe he— particularly boris johnson and whe he was— particularly boris johnson and who he was talking to. so it wette— who he was talking to. so it wetttla— who he was talking to. so it would-a shame- who he was talking to. so it would a shame if didn't

would be a shame if it didn't come out. wonder scholar okay come out. i wonder scholar okay , there— come out. i wonder scholar okay , there ts— come out. i wonder scholar okay , there ts ah— come out. i wonder scholar okay , there is an issue— come out. i wonder scholar okay , there is an issue of— come out. i wonder scholar okay , there is an issue of full trahstarehty— , there is an issue of full transparency ,_ , there is an issue of full transparency , but there's transparency, but there's also an transparency, but there's also at et— transparency, but there's also an issue of messages that aren't terttheht— an issue of messages that aren't terttheht te— an issue of messages that aren't pertinent to national interests. i pertinent to national interests. t mem— pertinent to national interests. i mean, on this— pertinent to national interests. i mean, on this ,_ pertinent to national interests. i mean, on this , on— pertinent to national interests. i mean, on this , on these- i mean, on this, on these groups, there's rishi sunak, liz truss , matt hancock, dominic truss, matt hancock, dominic cummings . truss, matt hancock, dominic cummings. now you're truss, matt hancock, dominic cummings . now you're not telling cummings. now you're not telling me. dominic cummings and boris didn't a few fruity didn't exchange a few fruity messages taken out of messages that may taken out of context. could cause great damage. are they really damage. but are they really relevant? do we need everything warts and to all, come out? so the problem is that if- t3tue7 so the problem is that if they if they-re— the problem is that if they if they-re gtweh— the problem is that if they if they-re gtweh a— the problem is that if they if they're given a choice of what to they're given a choice of what te gtwe— they're given a choice of what te gtwe taty— they're given a choice of what to give lady hallett yeah, then we ten-t— to give lady hallett yeah, then we don't trust— to give lady hallett yeah, then we don't trust them. i mean, what— we don't trust them. i mean, what we— we don't trust them. i mean, what we know— we don't trust them. i mean, what we know is— we don't trust them. i mean, what we know is ,- we don't trust them. i mean, what we know is , is, is that what we know is, is, is that that— what we know is, is, is that that as— what we know is, is, is that that as fraser— what we know is, is, is that that as fraser said last week, there— that as fraser said last week, there was— that as fraser said last week, there a— that as fraser said last week, there was a big— that as fraser said last week, there was a big thing about that.— there was a big thing about that. terts— there was a big thing about that. boris diaries had shown that— that. boris diaries had shown that atttatty— that. boris diaries had shown that actually he— that. boris diaries had shown that actually he ,_ that. boris diaries had shown that actually he , he might not that actually he, he might not hate— that actually he, he might not hate hat— that actually he, he might not have had parties— that actually he, he might not have had parties at chequers, ttt— have had parties at chequers, ttt he— have had parties at chequers, but he certainly— have had parties at chequers, but he certainly had gathered ththgs— but he certainly had gathered ththgs that— but he certainly had gathered things that we— but he certainly had gathered things that we were not allowed to things that we were not allowed te hate— things that we were not allowed te hawe amt— things that we were not allowed to have and actually instead of going— to have and actually instead of gang, tts— to have and actually instead of gang, tt-s a— to have and actually instead of going, it's a fair— to have and actually instead of going, it's a fair cop, they went— going, it's a fair cop, they went, thts— going, it's a fair cop, they went, this is— going, it's a fair cop, they went, this is a— going, it's a fair cop, they went, this is a stitch up. it shettt— went, this is a stitch up. it should never— went, this is a stitch up. it should never have happened. we shettt— should never have happened. we shettt heter— should never have happened. we should never have— should never have happened. we should never have known about it. should never have known about t. .yet— should never have known about tt-yet ththh— should never have known about it. .you think, well,- should never have known about it. you think, well, if he

it. and you think, well, if he ththts— it. and you think, well, if he thinks-shouldn't. thinks that that shouldn't shettth-t— thinks that that shouldn't shouldn't be— thinks that that shouldn't shouldn't be known, then what etse— shouldn't be known, then what else shouldn't— shouldn't be known, then what else shouldn't be— shouldn't be known, then what else shouldn't be and else shouldn't be known? and there— else shouldn't be known? and there ts— else shouldn't be known? and there ts the— else shouldn't be known? and there is the real— else shouldn't be known? and there is the real thing about trtst— there is the real thing about trtst ts— there is the real thing about trtst ts ts— there is the real thing about trust is, is of— there is the real thing about trust is, is of course, there gethg— trust is, is of course, there gethg te— trust is, is of course, there are going to be- trust is, is of course, there are going to be things in the whats/ttt— are going to be things in the whatsapp-have- are going to be things in the whatsapp have nothing to do whatsapp that have nothing to do with whatsapp that have nothing to do wtth tevtt. — whatsapp that have nothing to do with covm. and _ whatsapp that have nothing to do with covid. and frankly , we you with covid. and frankly, we you mew,— with covid. and frankly, we you mew, t— with covid. and frankly, we you know, i wouldn't— with covid. and frankly, we you know, i wouldn't like people to be know, i wouldn't like people to te atte— know, i wouldn't like people to te atte te— know, i wouldn't like people to be able to read— know, i wouldn't like people to be able to read my whatsapp messages, isn't— be able to read my whatsapp messages, isn't it? no, but but the tem— messages, isn't it? no, but but the tetht ts— messages, isn't it? no, but but the point is they've lost our trtst.— the point is they've lost our trtst. se— the point is they've lost our trtst. se tt— the point is they've lost our trust. so if they— the point is they've lost our trust. so if they had said, fair ehetgh— trust. so if they had said, fair ehetgh .— trust. so if they had said, fair ehetgh , that— trust. so if they had said, fair enough , that actually these enough, that actually these ttartes— enough, that actually these ttartes ttt— enough, that actually these diaries did show and instead it thts— diaries did show and instead it thts ts— diaries did show and instead it thts ts a— diaries did show and instead it was this is a complete stitch up,— was this is a complete stitch tt, they-re— was this is a complete stitch up, they're trying to get rid. thts— up, they're trying to get rid. thts ts— up, they're trying to get rid. this is remainers trying to get rid this is remainers trying to get rtt et— this is remainers trying to get rid of-brexiteers.- this is remainers trying to get rid of-brexiteers. i- this is remainers trying to get rid of brexiteers. i mean. rid of the brexiteers. i mean. wett— rid of the brexiteers. i mean. wett. hang— rid of the brexiteers. i mean. well, hang-hang- rid of the brexiteers. i mean. well, hang-hang on.- rid of the brexiteers. i mean. well, hang-hang on. i- rid of the brexiteers. i mean. well, hang hang on. i think well, hang on, hang on. i think maybe throwing to maybe fraser throwing back to you there is an you on this. yeah. there is an issue trust, isn't there? issue of trust, isn't there? because we've seen that journalists away. journalists leak stuff away. yeah, we've seen that the blob leaks stuff away and that adds fuel to the fire that this is, you know, a witchhunt against boris. and is it actually in the national interest or is it about causing maximum damage to boris? well, we don't know at the moment. it's the cabinet office that— moment. it's the cabinet office that tetttes— moment. it's the cabinet office that decides what— it's the cabinet office that decides what redact and that decides what to redact and what— that decides what to redact and what-regatt— that decides what to redact and what-redact. and- that decides what to redact and

what redact. and would what not to redact. and it would that— what not to redact. and it would seem that given— what not to redact. and it would seem that given that they handed tetats— seem that given that they handed over details about— seem that given that they handed over details about boris's gatherthgs— over details about boris's- gatherings—that gatherings to the police, that mayte— gatherings to the police, that mayte yet — gatherings to the police, that maybe you know— gatherings to the police, that maybe you know who knows what they-re— maybe you know who knows what they-re what— maybe you know who knows what they're what they're, you know, are they're what they're, you know, they— they're what they're, you know, they reatty— they're what they're, you know, are they really going to be temttetety— are they really going to be completely untransparent? are they— completely untransparent? are they gethg— completely untransparent? are they gethg te— completely untransparent? are they going to hide evidence? it seems unlikely,— they going to hide evidence? it seems unlikely, actually , seems unlikely, actually, estettatty— seems unlikely, actually, especially if— seems unlikely, actually, especially if they're if they're wtttthg — especially if they're if they're wtttthg te — especially if they're if they're willing to leak— especially if they're if they're willing to leak that. 1133 willing to leak that. well, i except— willing to leak that. well, i mean, except there was such a fuss made. i mean, you know, boris's pals are saying that oliver dowden , who's in charge oliver dowden, who's in charge of the cabinet office. right. i mean, you know, she'd sort of should apologise, should leave, should apologise, should leave, should be sacked. but i mean, that actually there is now pressure on the cabinet office not to do it. so what worries me is nothing is straightforward anymore and everything is everything is called a witch hunt, right ? everything is called a witch hunt, right? if it's bad for bods hunt, right? if it's bad for boris , it must be a witch hunt boris, it must be a witch hunt instead of the fact that actually, you know, boris , as we actually, you know, boris, as we all say, boris is boris and he plays fast and loose with the

rules. even if he makes them well, so did your old mate, tony blair. but let's. let's not get thre— blair. but let's. let's not get thte that— blair. but let's. let's not get into that too— blair. but let's. let's not get into that too much.- ” but let's. let's not get into that too much. let's move on into that too much. let's move en te— into that too much. let's move en te the— into that too much. let's move on to the next— into that too much. let's move on to the next story. now, one of on to the next story. now, one et yes— on to the next story. now, one er yes et— on to the next story. now, one of yours, of course,- on to the next story. now, one of yours, of course, is schofield.— of yours, of course, is schofield. schofield and our man, eamonn— schofield. schofield and our man, eamonn holmes normally sat in man, eamonn holmes normally sat th thts— man, eamonn holmes normally sat th thts that.— man, eamonn holmes normally sat in this chair. has— man, eamonn holmes normally sat in this chair. has really put the— in this chair. has really put the tat— in this chair. has really put the cat among— in this chair. has really put the cat among the pigeons . the cat among the pigeons. yeah.— the cat among the pigeons. veah. wett— the cat among the pigeons. veah. wett. t— the cat among the pigeons. yeah, well, i mean,- the cat among the pigeons. yeah, well, i mean, eamonn has been hinting about this for some time. and finally and dan wootton last night. well, it was aired last night, i think it was. it was recorded some time ago and, and i mean what eamonn has said is that his that phillip schofield had a relationship with a young runner who was 16 which is legal and that actually he was pretty messed up and that that eamonn's wife, ruth was like a surrogate mother to him and really tried to look after him. and the i mean, the other thing that that eamonn said, which which is equally shocking is just how

badly . phillip schofield and to badly. phillip schofield and to an extent holly actually. holly willoughby treated the backroom staff. i mean, they couldn't even be bothered to know their names and you think the difference here where, you know, you talk to everybody and eamonn and isabel when they're on, i mean, they might be stars, but actually there's an incredible friendliness and people know who they are. and you can take the piss out of them, particularly those sort of words. sorry. and you can on breakfast,- : sorry. and you can on breakfast, but point tatem — you can on breakfast, but point tatem yeah— you can on breakfast, but point taken. yeah but— you can on breakfast, but point taken. yeah but anyway, so this is taken. yeah but anyway, so this ts what— taken. yeah but anyway, so this ts what thts— taken. yeah but anyway, so this is what this and— taken. yeah but anyway, so this is what this and actually , i is what this and actually, i mean, so the— is what this and actually, i mean, so the sun has done it reatty— mean, so the sun has done it reatty ttg— mean, so the sun has done it reatty ttg ttt— mean, so the sun has done it really big but everybody's done tt. — really big but everybody's done t. t— really big but everybody's done t. t mem— really big but everybody's done it. i mean finally— really big but everybody's done it. i mean finally eamonn has said and we wonder whether he's even said everything he's got to say . yeah and one of the say. yeah and one of the thterestthg— say. yeah and one of the interesting things- “31“ and one of the interesting things i thought it reatty— interesting things i thought it was really important from that thtewtew— was really important from that interview was— was really important from that interview was that it implied that— interview was that it implied that my— interview was that it implied that my has— interview was that it implied that itv has a— interview was that it implied that itv has a level of temtttttty— that itv has a level of complicity, that there's a bit of complicity, that there's a bit et a— complicity, that there's a bit et a tt— complicity, that there's a bit of a cover up going on because tamem— of a cover up going on because eamonn revealed— of a cover up going on because eamonn revealed that the young lad eamonn revealed that the young tat was— eamonn revealed that the young tat gettthg—

eamonn revealed that the young lad was getting taxis from sthettett— lad was getting taxis from schofield house to itv the day aha,— schofield house to itv the day attet eh— schofield house to itv the day attet et a— schofield house to itv the day after, on a friday,— schofield house to itv the day after, on a friday, after play ttme— after, on a friday, after play the, se— after, on a friday, after play the, se te— after, on a friday, after play time, so to speak, on an on a thtrstay— time, so to speak, on an on a thursday evening.— time, so to speak, on an on a thursday evening. so now that stggests— thursday evening. so now that stggests a— thursday evening. so now that suggests a level— thursday evening. so now that suggests a level of knowledge on the tart— suggests a level of knowledge on the tart et— suggests a level of knowledge on the tart et tty-s— suggests a level of knowledge on the part of itv's higher ups mewtetge— the part of itv's higher ups knowledge that— the part of itv's higher ups knowledge that they were trewtetsty— knowledge that they were previously denying. i mean , it's previously denying. i mean, it's you— previously denying. i mean, it's yet mew,— previously denying. i mean, it's yet mew, tts— previously denying. i mean, it's you know, it's fascinating the the— you know, it's fascinating the ttht et— you know, it's fascinating the ttht et the— you know, it's fascinating the kind of the rumours about this stttt — kind of the rumours about this stttt reette— kind of the rumours about this stuff. people had— kind of the rumours about this stuff. people had known for a very— stuff. people had known for a very tehg— stuff. people had known for a very tehg ttme— stuff. people had known for a very long time. and it's been attte— very long time. and it's been gttte rtmy— very long time. and it's been quite funny, actually, all of us hawthg— quite funny, actually, all of us hawthg te— quite funny, actually, all of us hawthg te stt— quite funny, actually, all of us having to sit here— quite funny, actually, all of us having to sit here pretend having to sit here and pretend not having to sit here and pretend het-what— having to sit here and pretend het-what was- having to sit here and pretend not what was going on not to know what was going on thttt— not to know what was going on until schofield— not to know what was going on until schofield admitted it, het— until schofield admitted it, he-t-attett- he'd made an abject professional. it made for very strange— professional. it made for very strange-.- professional. it made for very strahge-. ttt- professional. it made for very strange -. but we . professional. it made for very. strange-. but we you strange television. but we you mew,— strange television. but we you mew-tett— strange television. but we you mew-tettltt- strange television. but we you mew-tettltt .- strange television. but we you know, kept up . um, and know, we kept it up. um, and yeah— know, we kept it up. um, and yeah, yet— know, we kept it up. um, and yeah, yet mew,— know, we kept it up. um, and yeah, you know, so it seems ttzarre— yeah, you know, so it seems bizarre that,— yeah, you know, so it seems bizarre that, you— yeah, you know, so it seems bizarre that, you know, itv tretehtthg— bizarre that, you know, itv pretending-to- bizarre that, you know, itv pretending to know what pretending not to know what was going— pretending not to know what was gethg eh— pretending not to know what was gethg ether-— pretending not to know what was gethg ehhew- we— pretending not to know what was going on now we have some going on and now we have some reat— going on and now we have some eat—they- real evidence that they knew exattty— real evidence that they knew exattty-was— real evidence that they knew exactly was what do real evidence that they knew- exactly-was-what do we exactly what was and what do we met— exactly what was and what do we ththt-hatteh— exactly what was and what do we think happen next? 11 think will happen next? do you think— think will happen next? do you think-wen— think will happen next? do you think-we'll have- think will happen next? do you think-we'll have to- think that we'll have to see? execs itv this morning execs at itv or this morning leave , or will we have to see a leave, or will we have to see a rebranding of this morning? i mean, where we go from here? mean, where do we go from here? yeah, think and i think yeah, i think and i think there-u— yeah, i think and i think there'll be— yeah, i think and i think there'll be more to come out in in-coming— there'll be more to come out in in-coming days,— there'll be more to come out in in coming days, you know.

in the coming days, you know. ves- — in the coming days, you know. yes. this— in the coming days, you know. yes. this is— in the coming days, you know. yes. this is-over- in the coming days, you know. yes. this is over by this is yes. this is not over by this is this— yes. this is not over by this is this-just— yes. this is not over by this is this just beginning . ': this is just the beginning. and there-s— this is just the beginning. and there-s going— this is just the beginning. and there's going-be— this is just the beginning. and there's going-be a- this is just the beginning. and there's going-be a lot- this is just the beginning. and there's going-be a lot a- this is just the beginning. and there's going be a lot a lot there's going to be a lot a lot of behind the scenes people like top executives whose names are not household names , who will not household names, who will have to step down because there's been a cover up and people have had to sign non—disclosure agreements. and just before we move on, i q and just before we move on, i just want— just before we move on, i just want to— just before we move on, i just want to say— just before we move on, i just i... to say you— just before we move on, i just want to say you can catch the fun— want to say you can catch the full interview— want to say you can catch the full interview on— want to say you can catch the full interview on our youtube channel— full interview on our youtube channel at— full interview on our youtube channel at gb— full interview on our youtube channel at gb news. but something— channel at gb news. but sonennng n— channel at gb news. but something i found really noncnng— something i found really touching in— something i found really touching in the interview, ali, nne— touching in the interview, ali, nne nann— touching in the interview, ali, was the fact that— touching in the interview, ali, was the fact that eamonn was talking— was the fact that eamonn was nnnng-nne— was the fact that eamonn was talking-the duty- was the fact that eamonn was talking the duty of care talking about the duty of care for talking about the duty of care non-ann— talking about the duty of care non-and non- talking about the duty of care for-and how ruth- talking about the duty of care for and how ruth is for the lad and how ruth is snennnng— for the lad and how ruth is stepping in— for the lad and how ruth is stepping in and— for the lad and how ruth is stepping in and acting as a surrogate— stepping in and acting as a surrogate mother, whereas pennene— surrogate mother, whereas pennene nv— surrogate mother, whereas perhaps itv didn't. this is a young— perhaps itv didn't. this is a young men— perhaps itv didn't. this is a young man with— perhaps itv didn't. this is a young man with at the centre of a young man with at the centre of e on— young man with at the centre of e on e— young man with at the centre of a of a whirlwind— young man with at the centre of a of a whirlwind and needs to be protected.— a of a whirlwind and needs to be protected. well— a of a whirlwind and needs to be protected. well that's vitally innenenn— protected. well that's vitally ingenennne— protected. well that's vitally important to remember that part of ne— important to remember that part of the narrative— important to remember that part of the narrative has been lost really— of the narrative has been lost neeuy .— of the narrative has been lost neeuy , neen-n— of the narrative has been lost really , hasn't it,— of the narrative has been lost really , hasn't it, in all of really, hasn't it, in all of ene— really, hasn't it, in all of ens, enn— really, hasn't it, in all of this, that this— really, hasn't it, in all of this, that this is a vulnerable young— this, that this is a vulnerable young teen— this, that this is a vulnerable young person that we're talking enem— young person that we're talking about nene. — young person that we're talking about here. and— young person that we're talking about here. ' t: young person that we're talking about here. q young person that we're talking about here. ' t: about here. and also the staff at this morning, those backroom staff scarlett, staff you talk about scarlett, i mean, they they currently don't know going to be in know if they're going to be in a job. they don't know what's

happening. the programme, and they're happening. the programme, and theyyou i on the front page like you and i on the front page of a newspaper. i mean, you've got to feel them as well. oh got to feel for them as well. oh yeah. i mean of it's yeah. no, i mean all of it's awful. and then, i mean yeetentoy— awful. and then, i mean yesterday the— and then, i mean yesterday the doctor who said, you— yesterday the doctor who said, you know, — yesterday the doctor who said, you know, tne— yesterday the doctor who said, you know, the atmosphere around dr. you know, the atmosphere around ton—nno— you know, the atmosphere around on—nno woe- you know, the atmosphere around dr._who was then- you know, the atmosphere around dr. who was then sort dr. ram singh, who was then sort of dr. ram singh, who was then sort ot eoeet— dr. ram singh, who was then sort ot eoeet-t— dr. ram singh, who was then sort of eased-i mean,— dr. ram singh, who was then sort of eased i mean, you're of eased out, i mean, you're tutt— of eased out, i mean, you're toot-ottonet— of eased out, i mean, you're just-allowedlsay- of eased out, i mean, you're just allowed say things . just not allowed to say things. i just not allowed to say things. . nonet— just not allowed to say things. i worked there— just not allowed to say things. i worked there for— just not allowed to say things. i worked there for six- just not allowed to say things. i worked there for six years on and off. there are many, and off. and there are many, many fans tastic people who work on show . and it's a shame on that show. and it's a shame that their livelihoods will be dragged into this. but that's the nature of celebrity hush the tories. move on? yeah, tories. shall we move on? yeah, well, you say , the tories. shall we move on? yeah, well,.you say , the story- tories. shall we move on? yeah, well,.you say , the story is. well, as you say, the story is going— well, as you say, the story is gotng to— well, as you say, the story is going to-rolling- well, as you say, the story is going to-rolling ,. well, as you say, the story is going to rolling, isn't going to keep on rolling, isn't it, going to keep on rolling, isn't g, to— going to keep on rolling, isn't g, to tne— going to keep on rolling, isn't it, for the next— going to keep on rolling, isn't it, for the next few at it, for the next few days at tent.— it, for the next few days at least. fraser— it, for the next few days at least. fraser let's have look least. fraser let's have a look at least. fraser let's have a look ttt-nett— least. fraser let's have a look at-mail, shall— least. fraser let's have a look at-mail, shall we?- least. fraser let's have a look at mail, shall we? this is at the mail, shall we? this is tnetn— at the mail, shall we? this is men-pogo— at the mail, shall we? this is tnetn-noge. tte- at the mail, shall we? this is their page. it's fury at their front page. it's fury at sir their front page. it's fury at stt tett— their front page. it's fury at sir keir starmer— their front page. it's fury at sir keir starmer being funded ad by-swp— sir keir starmer being funded ad tty-stop ott. — sir keir starmer being funded ad by-stop oil. well,- sir keir starmer being funded ad by stop oil. �*ft�*tzgc . by just stop oil. well, it's the same one of the same people who gives large amounts of money to just stop oil has given around £i.5 just stop oil has given around £1.5 million to labour. now i mean, let's be honest. the mail seems to be making a suggestion that because keir starmer made an announcement last week or it

was real last week that he's planning to block all north sea oil and developments under oil and gas developments under a labour is, you labour government, which is, you know, the explicit policy of just you look, let's just stop oil. you look, let's be honest, labour is into green issues, into climate issues, it's into climate change. don't think that change. i don't think that anyone should suggest they're being this being paid to take this position. however, is position. however, it is a slightly crazy position. you know, it going to. we are in know, it is going to. we are in the middle an energy crisis. the middle of an energy crisis. we're not going to buy. thankfully, we're not into buying russian oil and gas anymore . but many of the big anymore. but many of the big global oil producers are cutting back opec and places like that. we're not going to stop using oil . we're just going to be oil. we're just going to be importing more and that's going to cost us more. so it is a kind of mad position to take. i wonder if it matters. i mean, tn — wonder if it matters. i mean, tn lton— wonder if it matters. i mean, tn lton ot— wonder if it matters. i mean, i'm-fan of just— wonder if it matters. i mean, i'm fan of just stop oil. i i'm no fan of just stop oil. i tntnt— i'm no fan of just stop oil. i tntnt tt— i'm no fan of just stop oil. i think i'd like— i'm no fan of just stop oil. i think i'd like to— i'm no fan of just stop oil. i think i'd like to just stop tten— think i'd like to just stop tnen. note— think i'd like to just stop them. dale vince, the owner of tootnetto— them. dale vince, the owner of ecotricity, _the - ecotricity, i think the sex ttetote— ecotricity, i think the sex ttetote got— ecotricity, i think the sex pistols got right. never pistols got it right. never tenet— pistols got it right. never tenet tne— pistols got it right. never trust the hippy, but motty an ott— trust the hippy, but motty an even old even— trust the hippy, but motty an even old even i— trust the hippy, but motty an even old even i with my cynicism tntnte— even old even i with my cynicism tntnte toes— even old even i with my cynicism tntnte toee tt— even old even i with my cynicism thinks does it really— even old even i with my cynicism thinks does it really matter tnot— thinks does it really matter tnot ne— thinks does it really matter that he donates— thinks does it really matter that he donates to this lot and

he that he donates to this lot and ne tonotee— that he donates to this lot and he donates to _ that he donates to this lot and he donates to labour ? did people he donates to labour? did people reatty— he donates to labour? did people reatty ene— he donates to labour? did people reatty — he donates to labour? did people reatty t— he donates to labour? did people really care? i don't— he donates to labour? did people really care? t::::t c really care? i don't know. i, i read the story . and you think read the story. and you think the fury . i mean read the story. and you think the fury. i mean this is a manufacture story that they they get jacob rees—mogg to say it's terrible . they get various you terrible. they get various you know people who rent a quotes frankly you expect to say actually as far as i know, there is no pressure for the money to go back. yes it's a and i would be very wary. i mean , i was be very wary. i mean, i was looking up i mean, just who the tories take money from. i wouldn't i really wouldn't go there . but this. so this isn't there. but this. so this isn't somebody who's out there, you know, stopping the cars or whatever. just stop oil, do. this is somebody who gives money to one place and then and then they're also furious that this is a man who, you know, used to just truck drivers son who used to drive a truck and found that, you know, you can make a lot of money from from selling windmills scholar as somebody who's been, you know, a key

adviser to two in the blair years is this a classic. oh, bofisisin years is this a classic. oh, boris is in court. let's- oh, boris is in court. let's throw the— boris is in court. let's throw tnte ont— boris is in court. let's throw tnte out on— boris is in court. let's throw this out on the— boris is in court. let's throw this out on the front of the dotty— this out on the front of the dotty natty— this out on the front of the daily daily mail and we'll all be eoytng— daily daily mail and we'll all be eoytng tnot— daily daily mail and we'll all be saying that stop. iiex " be saying that stop. martin. i mean, are you a cynic? really? honestly a cynic? i mean, i just think there's going to be a lot more of the stuff like this coming out in the next year where but but i mean, what what this isn't even a scandal. i mean, that's what's so fun is, you know, there will be scandals. but this this is a totally manufactured story . i totally manufactured story. i think. i think one thing that is nonn— think. i think one thing that is non eoytng— think. i think one thing that is worth saying, though, is that otten— worth saying, though, is that otten ne— worth saying, though, is that often we kind— worth saying, though, is that often we kind of— worth saying, though, is that often we kind of talk about nenenotte— often we kind of talk about renewable energy and renewable energy— renewable energy and renewable energy eonnonotee— renewable energy and renewable energy companies as if they're eon— energy companies as if they're not ot— energy companies as if they're sort of charities.— energy companies as if they're sort of charities. yeah, it is a nentnten— sort of charities. yeah, it is a reminder that— sort of charities. yeah, it is a reminder that there is a tnetneee— reminder that there is a business behind kind all of this a business behind kind all of this o nnge— business behind kind all of this o nnge tnene-e— business behind kind all of this a huge there's a— business behind kind all of this a huge there's a huge amount of money— a huge there's a huge amount of money tn— a huge there's a huge amount of money tn tne— a huge there's a huge amount of money in the so—called energy tnnettton— money in the so—called energy tnnettton .— money in the so—called energy tnnettton . a— money in the so—called energy transition . a lot— money in the so—called energy transition . a lot of— money in the so—called energy transition . a lot of people are transition. a lot of people are going— transition. a lot of people are gotng to— transition. a lot of people are gotng to te— transition. a lot of people are gotng to be ten— transition. a lot of people are going to be very rich out of the.— going to be very rich out of tie ant— going to be very rich out of tie ant yon— going to be very rich out of this. and you know, whether it's in this. and you know, whether it's tn tne — this. and you know, whether it's in the interests— this. and you know, whether it's in the interests of— this. and you know, whether it's in the interests of the public is in the interests of the public to onotnen— in the interests of the public is another question entirely .

is another question entirely. nett— is another question entirely. nett. tott— is another question entirely. well, hold on.— is another question entirely. well, hold on. you- is another question entirely. well, hold on. you know, we're talking about people who made millions from covid and you know that it's always struck me as that it's always struck me as that it's always struck me as that it seems perfectly okay. you know, manufacturing ppe that can never be used and making these millions. i mean, this guy just understood about renewables . i mean, i'm i've just had solar panels put on my house. i mean, the solar panel people are making a fortune. that's fine. lots of people make business. why not? and i am hoping to because dale may have benefited from a lots of government grants and subsidies. early doors. snon— and subsidies. early doors. smart cookie. _ and subsidies. early doors. smart cookie. he- m: t: early doors. smart cookie. he got ahead cw: : early doors. smart cookie. he got ahead of the smart cookie. he got ahead of tne tune.— smart cookie. he got ahead of the curve. that's— smart cookie. he got ahead of the curve. that's a— smart cookie. he got ahead of the curve. that's a separate stony.— the curve. that's a separate eton. snontt— the curve. that's a separate story. should we- the curve. that's a separate story. should we do one quick one on on the— story. should we do one quick one on on the labour tackling tne— one on on the labour tackling tne nonetng— one on on the labour tackling the housing crisis. we talked about— about this earlier. astonishing ettnotton— about this earlier. astonishing situation-donors- about this earlier. astonishing situation donors threatened situation tory donors threatened to nttnnott— situation tory donors threatened to withhold funds— situation tory donors threatened to withhold funds because of ttnnvten— to withhold funds because of nimbyism-now- to withhold funds because of nimbyism now starmer is nimbyism and now starmer is eteootng— nimbyism and now starmer is etepptng tn— nimbyism and now starmer is stepping in saying we're going to-tont.— stepping in saying we're going to-land. sounds- stepping in saying we're going to-land. sounds a- stepping in saying we're going to land. sounds a little to seize land. sounds a little bit to seize land. sounds a little ttt gntog— to seize land. sounds a little ttt gntog ten— to seize land. sounds a little bit gulag ish, right? �*ft�*tzgc bit gulag ish, right? well, i tntnt— bit gulag ish, right? well, i tntnt t— bit gulag ish, right? well, i think i think— bit gulag ish, right? well, i think i think it it's the use it or lose it there is a real problem . i mean we need more

problem. i mean we need more houses everybody agrees that we need more houses and the question is where. but what developers do is they buy up the land and then they sit on it and they sit on it waiting to make a big a profit. i mean, you know, at least making a profit from renewables, you're actually doing something . developers just doing something. developers just sit on it waiting for it. and what starmer is saying is, is no. and i think it's already true in scotland that they've started doing this. i mean , i started doing this. i mean, i just you know, it is immoral that somebody can sit on land when we are absolutely desperate as a country for more housing. and so , i mean, it's right. it and so, i mean, it's right. it will be done slowly, but actually , it's basically saying actually, it's basically saying to developers as and i have to say, there's nothing new about this policy. i think ed miliband had it basically saying to developers , watch it. you know, developers, watch it. you know, you're going to have to change it. going to to it. you're going to have to start building. yeah, it is fascinating thing, isn't it, fraser, that we have the labour party now as the party of home building? well, if it's about,

you— building? well, if it's about, you know,— building? well, if it's about, you know, social— : "g? well, if it's about, you know, social housing, then tnot-e— you know, social housing, then tnot-e probably— you know, social housing, then that's probably always been been the that's probably always been been tne ooee— that's probably always been been tne t— that's probably always been been the case. i mean,— that's probably always been been the case. i mean, what's interesting— the case. i mean, what's interesting here is that a lot of interesting here is that a lot ot oonnntones— interesting here is that a lot of companies can't get netntsston— of companies can't get permission to- of companies can't get permission to use their land . permission to use their land. ant— permission to use their land. ant-tte— permission to use their land. and _the that's- permission to use their land. and the that's the and so that's the that's the knot— and so that's the that's the ttnt-not- and so that's the that's the kind-butlyou. and so that's the that's the kind-butlyou ifi and so that's the that's the. kind-butlyou if the kind of irony. but if you if the government— kind of irony. but if you if the government purchases at the moment— government purchases at the moment .— government purchases at the moment , tt— government purchases at the moment, if the— government purchases at the moment , if the government moment, if the government pononoses— moment, if the government pnnonoses—yool moment, if the government. purchases—you have moment, if the government- purchases _you have to purchases your land, you have to tney— purchases your land, you have to tney nove— purchases your land, you have to tney note to— purchases your land, you have to they have to treat— purchases your land, you have to they have to treat it— purchases your land, you have to they have to treat it as if it's teen— they have to treat it as if it's been gtven— they have to treat it as if it's been given permission. so people are been given permission. so people one-noto— been given permission. so people one-nott-ont- are being paid hundreds and nontnets— are being paid hundreds and hundreds-times- are being paid hundreds and hundreds times the amount of hundreds of times the amount of the hundreds of times the amount of tte—ot— hundreds of times the amount of tne—ot tnetn- hundreds of times the amount of the—of their land. the actual value of their land unten— the actual value of their land onten tne— the actual value of their land under the current— the actual value of their land under the current compulsory nononose— under the current compulsory purchase order— under the current compulsory purchase order regime. so oteony— purchase order regime. so oteony-nos- purchase order regime. so clearly-has to- purchase order regime. so clearly has to change. but clearly that has to change. but i clearly that has to change. but t nonto— clearly that has to change. but i would rather— clearly that has to change. but i would rather just give the butters— i would rather just give the builders permission to build, let builders permission to build, tet-get— builders permission to build, tet-get on— builders permission to build, let-get on with- builders permission to build, let get on with let's let them get on with it. let's note— let them get on with it. let's note noose— let them get on with it. let's make house building easier for everyone. probably make house building easier for. everyone. _probably be everyone. that would probably be a everyone. that would probably be o—nnt- a preferable solution. but i otso— a preferable solution. but i otso ognee— a preferable solution. but i also agree. you— a preferable solution. but i also agree. you know, desperate ttmes— also agree. you know, desperate ttnes oott— also agree. you know, desperate times call for— also agree. you know, desperate times call for desperate measures and- times call for desperate measures and so it's good to see some movement on— measures and so it's good to see some movement on this excellent. nett— some movement on this excellent. nett. tnosen— some movement on this excellent. well, fraser and— some movement on this excellent. well, fraser and _a _ well, fraser and scott, a fantastic day. fantastic start to the day. thank much. i think thank you very much. and i think we agree we need more we can all agree we need more houses, are sky high and houses, rents are sky high and who to even buy who can afford to even buy a house? the housing crisis , house? the housing crisis, tnot-s— house? the housing crisis, tnot-s ton— house? the housing crisis, that's for sure. _ , the housing crisis, that's for sure. thank you very noon— that's for sure. thank you very noon-yon. — that's for sure. thank you very noon-yon. tt- that's for sure. thank you very much,-you. it was- that's for sure. thank you very much, you. it was great. much, both of you. it was great. oneens. — much, both of you. it was great. cheers. thanks.— much, both of you. it was great. cheers. thanks. right now, the

ttme— cheers. thanks. right now, the ttne ts— cheers. thanks. right now, the ttne ts eeo. — cheers. thanks. right now, the time is 649. bring you up time is 649. let's bring you up to tote— time is 649. let's bring you up to tote nttn— time is 649. let's bring you up to date with today's top stones. — to date with today's top stories. and- to date with today's top stories. ' w to date with today's top stories. and ministers be stories. and ministers could be locked in a legal with locked in a legal battle with the inquiry the the covid i9 inquiry over the release whatsapp messages and release of whatsapp messages and diaries belonging to boris johnson. argue the johnson. they argue the government no obligation to government has no obligation to disclose so—called unambiguously irrelevant material . the royal irrelevant material. the royal college of psychic— irrelevant material. the royal college of psychic the- the royal college of psychic the tories soys— college of psychic the tories soys tnene-s— college of psychic the tories says there's not— college of psychic the tories says there's not enough time to put says there's not enough time to out o— says there's not enough time to out o ne— says there's not enough time to put a new system— says there's not enough time to put a new system in place to nnoteot— put a new system in place to protect vulnerable people. after the protect vulnerable people. after tne net-s— protect vulnerable people. after the met's police— protect vulnerable people. after the met's police announced they nonto— the met's police announced they nontt no— the met's police announced they would no longer— the met's police announced they would no longer attend mental neottn— would no longer attend mental health incidents— would no longer attend mental health incidents after 31st of august— health incidents after 31st of august unless— health incidents after 31st of august unless there is a threat to tte.— august unless there is a threat to ttte. tne— august unless there is a threat to life. the move— august unless there is a threat to life. the move is designed to nee— to life. the move is designed to tnee on— to life. the move is designed to free up officers— to life. the move is designed to free up officers to _ to life. the move is designed to free up officers to spend more ttne— free up officers to spend more ttne on— free up officers to spend more time on their— free up officers to spend more time on their core— free up officers to spend more time on their core roles. free up officers to spend more time on their core roles . and time on their core roles. and tne— time on their core roles. and tne nntttsn— time on their core roles. and the british retail— time on their core roles. and the british retail consortium soys— the british retail consortium soys toot— the british retail consortium says food inflation fell to nono— says food inflation fell to tsnto tn— says food inflation fell to 15.4% in the _ says food inflation fell to 15.4% in the year to may, and tnot-s— 15.4% in the year to may, and tnot-s tonn— 15.4% in the year to may, and that's down from _ 15.4% in the year to may, and that's down from 15.7% in april. tte— that's down from 15.7% in april. the ttgones— that's down from 15.7% in april. the figures still— that's down from 15.7% in april. the figures still remain- that's down from 15.7% in april. the figures still remain high, with £23 spent for every £20 spent a year ago . now, with

spent a year ago. now, with the hot weather set to continue this weekend, many will be eager to go for a swim to cool down. but people are being warned- people are being warned of the tongen— people are being warned of the tongen ot— people are being warned of the danger of jumping into cold ote — danger of jumping into cold ote ano— danger of jumping into cold water. and one— danger of jumping into cold water. and one of- danger of jumping into cold water. ' th water. and one of those raising awareness is debbie turnbull, who lost her son christopher to drowning in 2006 and his campaign for water safety ever since. she's set up a non profit organisation called river and sea sense and i'm very pleased to say that she joins us now. good morning to you, debbie. tteottn— good morning to you, debbie. tteottn, neottn— good morning to you, debbie. really, really good to see you tnts— really, really good to see you tnts nonntng— really, really good to see you this morning. so— really, really good to see you this morning. so if we can just ston— this morning. so if we can just ston tn— this morning. so if we can just ston tn totttng— this morning. so if we can just start by talking about your son, onntstonnen— start by talking about your son, christopher and— start by talking about your son, christopher and tell us what noppenet— christopher and tell us what nonnenet to— christopher and tell us what happened to him . yes happened to him. yes i just want to often— happened to him. yes i just want to otten mn— happened to him. yes i just want to offer my most sincere condolences to the families who have lost their their children this weekend . and always. but this weekend. and always. but yes, chris went into a waterfall

. he went to a place called capel curig in the conway valley , and he fell into to the waterfall on august the 14th, 17 years ago . yeah. what makes your years ago. yeah. what makes your ston— years ago. yeah. what makes your ston so— years ago. yeah. what makes your story so personal?— years ago. yeah. what makes your story so personal? i— gift? 3 yeah. what makes your story so personal? i think every nonent— story so personal? i think every nonent oon— story so personal? i think every parent can relate— story so personal? i think every parent can relate to this. i t— parent can relate to this. i t jump— parent can relate to this. i mean, i jump in- parent can relate to this. i mean, i jump in rivers with my ott— mean, i jump in rivers with my ott tne— mean, i jump in rivers with my son all the time— mean, i jump in rivers with my son all the time and the thing neonte— son all the time and the thing people otten— son all the time and the thing people often don't realise is being,— people often don't realise is being, ot— people often don't realise is debbie, of course, is that even tnongn— debbie, of course, is that even tnongn tt— debbie, of course, is that even tnongn tt oon— debbie, of course, is that even though it can be— debbie, of course, is that even though it can be incredibly hot nnen— though it can be incredibly hot nnen tne— though it can be incredibly hot when the sunshine is out, the note— when the sunshine is out, the noten te— when the sunshine is out, the water can be very— when the sunshine is out, the water can be very cold, cold. ant— water can be very cold, cold. no tnot-s— water can be very cold, cold. and that's when _ water can be very cold, cold. and that's when kids can get no— and that's when kids can get into trouble,— and that's when kids can get into trouble, isn't it? exactly ne— into trouble, isn't it? exactly no tostoottn— into trouble, isn't it? exactly we basically when— into trouble, isn't it? exactly we basically when chris- into trouble, isn't it? exactly we basically when chris went into the water, it had been a really hot summer, just like we're having at the moment. and the water would come down from the water would come down from the mountains and created a huge whirlpool . and he fell into the whirlpool. and he fell into the middle of it, which is called the boil . and basically , the boil. and basically, unfortunately , he was forced unfortunately, he was forced down into a cave underneath the water fall and he got his foot

stuck in a tree and a tree root in the cave . um, it was in the cave. um, it was devastating. and i, i, i feel the pain of the families at the moment who've lost their children. of moment who've lost their children . of course, you, you children. of course, you, you nttt— children. of course, you, you nttt teet— children. of course, you, you will feel all— children. of course, you, you will feel all that— ”c: w of course, you, you will feel all that pain for tnen. — will feel all that pain for tnen. non— will feel all that pain for them. you will- will feel all that pain for them. you will know exactly how tnot— them. you will know exactly how tnot teets— them. you will know exactly how that feels. debbie— them. you will know exactly how that feels. debbie how much of tnts— that feels. debbie how much of tnts ts— that feels. debbie how much of tnts ts ooont— that feels. debbie how much of this is about education and oeonte— this is about education and people knowing the dangers of oont— people knowing the dangers of oott ote— people knowing the dangers of cold water, especially on a hot day?— cold water, especially on a hot summer's day? i— cold water, especially on a hot summer's day? i mean , i don't summer's day? i mean, i don't know— summer's day? i mean, i don't know non— summer's day? i mean, i don't know non non— summer's day? i mean, i don't know how you have the strength to to— know how you have the strength to to not— know how you have the strength to to nnot non— know how you have the strength to do what you do— know how you have the strength to do what you do and to set up nonn— to do what you do and to set up noon nont— to do what you do and to set up your profit organisation, but oteontn— your profit organisation, but oteontn tt— your profit organisation, but oteontn tt ts— your profit organisation, but clearly it is that need for etnootton— clearly it is that need for education that- clearly it is that need for education that that drives you . education that that drives you. it education that that drives you. tt ts— education that that drives you. tt ts . — education that that drives you. tt ts . gm,— education that that drives you. tt ts . um. tne— education that that drives you. it is . :f: it is. um, i've educated over 550,000 children since the loss of my son and basically early education is absolutely vital at the moment. learning to swim is not enough . and as we know,

not enough. and as we know, we're having difficulties with pool closures and all that kind of thing. so we've got to educate our children . but it's educate our children. but it's also extremely vital to educate parents as well , because parents parents as well, because parents need to be telling their children of the dangers of open water, which is what i'm working on at the moment. okay debbie, now, as a parent myself, you know, a parent likes to be the party pooper on a hot day. but what kind of basic bits- party pooper on a hot day. but what kind of basic bits of- what kind of basic bits of information— what kind of basic bits of information would you recommend to nonents— information would you recommend to parents listening— information would you recommend to parents listening in now? they— to parents listening in now? tnen oon— to parents listening in now? tnen se— to parents listening in now? they can use to— to parents listening in now? they can use to keep their ontttnen— they can use to keep their children safe— they can use to keep their children safe this bank holiday and children safe this bank holiday ont tnnongn— children safe this bank holiday and through the— children safe this bank holiday and through the future of the on,— and through the future of the summer? um, you need to be aware of summer? um, you need to be aware ot nnot-s— summer? um, you need to be aware of what's called _ summer? um, you need to be aware of what's called cold— summer? um, you need to be aware of what's called cold water snoot, — of what's called cold water shock, which _ of what's called cold water shock, which attributed to the toss— shock, which attributed to the toss ot— shock, which attributed to the toss ot ny— shock, which attributed to the loss of my son. _ shock, which attributed to the loss of my son. 'w: loss of my son. and that is basically when you jump into ice cold water and your body goes into shock, basically , and very into shock, basically, and very soon your body will lose consciousness . us without going consciousness. us without going into all the detail, um , it can into all the detail, um, it can be extremely quick and no matter how strong you are, the fight

can be over quite quickly. tombstone mining is what people do when they jump into water without any education or advice , which means basically they're not doing what's called cold delirium with the kit and with an instructor there. and i know of a young boy that unfortunately hit the rock with his heel when he went in a number of years ago , and he number of years ago, and he became completely paralysed because he hit it completely this disorientated his spine and these these things happen so quickly. and the temperature of the water that day when chris john was actually four degrees, which is the temperature of your fridge at home. and this is what people don't realise and it can all be over in seconds . sounds all be over in seconds. sounds okay. all be over in seconds. sounds oton. denote— all be over in seconds. sounds okay. debbie turnbull- all be over in seconds. sounds okay. debbie turnbull ,- w sounds okay. debbie turnbull , founder okay. debbie turnbull, founder of okay. debbie turnbull, founder ot tnen— okay. debbie turnbull, founder ot ttnen ont— okay. debbie turnbull, founder of river and sea— okay. debbie turnbull, founder of river and sea sense , of river and sea sense, tnsntnng— of river and sea sense, inspiring advice and well done for inspiring advice and well done ton tottng— inspiring advice and well done for taking what— inspiring advice and well done for taking what happened to you and for taking what happened to you ont tetng— for taking what happened to you ont tetng so— for taking what happened to you and being so positive and helping— and being so positive and helping others— and being so positive and helping others with the rest of

non— helping others with the rest of non tntnne— helping others with the rest of your future. moving forward. tnont— your future. moving forward. tnontnon— your future. moving forward. thank you for— your future. moving forward. thank you for joining your future. moving forward. thank you forjoining us your future. moving forward. thank you for joining us today. neon.— thank you for joining us today. yeah, wonderful. _ thank you for joining us today. yeah, wonderful. thank- thank you for joining us today. yeah, wonderful. thank you so much. thank you, debbie. i mean, the she does is just the work she does is just amazing. don't how she amazing. i don't know how she does it. i that really does it. i find that really nontng. — does it. i find that really moving. ifind_ does it. i find that really moving.ifind i- : e i find that really moving. find i find it chokes moving. i find i find it chokes ne— moving. i find i find it chokes me no— moving. i find i find it chokes me up because— moving. i find i find it chokes me up because that could be ononens ttt.— me up because that could be anyone's kid. it— me up because that could be anyone's kid. it really could. so,— anyone's kid. it really could. so, neon— anyone's kid. it really could. so, neon, peonte— anyone's kid. it really could. so, yeah, people do not. she's oonptetetn—tni so, yeah, people do not. she's completely in the completely right. debbie in the sense that people do not understand dangers. understand the dangers. it's a hot day. you're jumping in in a lake or a river. you wouldn't think the dangers that poses, think the dangers that it poses, but so do check that but it does. so do check that out. and sea sense. that's out. river and sea sense. that's the that's organisation . the that's the organisation. okay. coming up, we'll have more on—exntosne- on eamonn holmes's explosive tntennten— on eamonn holmes's explosive tntenten—os- on eamonn holmes's explosive tntennten—os ne| interview with gb news as he ototns— interview with gb news as he ototns-nos— interview with gb news as he claims-was a- interview with gb news as he claims was a total cover claims there was a total cover up claims there was a total cover on ononnt— claims there was a total cover up around philip— claims there was a total cover up around philip schofield. but tnot— up around philip schofield. but first, rachael— up around philip schofield. but first, rachael-has- up around philip schofield. but first, rachael-has your. first, rachael eyers has your tuesday forecast. this tuesday morning forecast. this is breakfast on gb news good morning, my name is- cl \ good morning, my name is rachel clo \ good morning, my name is rachel ayers and morning, my name is rachel ayers ont eotoe— morning, my name is rachel ayers ont eotoe to— morning, my name is rachel ayers and welcome to your latest gb tens— and welcome to your latest gb news weather— and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast brought to you by— news weather forecast brought to non tn tne — news weather forecast brought to non tn tne net— news weather forecast brought to you by the met office. so it was a you by the met office. so it was o-tong— you by the met office. so it was a-long weekend- you by the met office. so it was a-long weekend for- you by the met office. so it was a long weekend for many a fine, long weekend for many nttn— a fine, long weekend for many nttn ntentn— a fine, long weekend for many nttn ptentn ot— a fine, long weekend for many with plenty of sunshine around. is with plenty of sunshine around. ts-gotng— with plenty of sunshine around. ts-gotng to— with plenty of sunshine around. is going to change much , is that going to change much, tnongn— is that going to change much, tnongn-to- is that going to change much, though,-to the- is that going to change much, though, to the end of though, as we go to the end of may?— though, as we go to the end of none-ts— though, as we go to the end of none-ts tne- though, as we go to the end of may? is the answer . may? well, no is the answer. nttn— may? well, no is the answer. nttn ntgn— may? well, no is the answer. with high pressure still

nenotntng— with high pressure still remaining the dominant feature of remaining the dominant feature ot tne— remaining the dominant feature ot tne nt— remaining the dominant feature of the uk weather at the moment, it of the uk weather at the moment, tt toes— of the uk weather at the moment, tt toes neon— of the uk weather at the moment, it does mean we've— of the uk weather at the moment, it does mean we've got some nonneostenn— it does mean we've got some northeasterly winds down east ont— northeasterly winds down east ont ooost— northeasterly winds down east ont ooost so— northeasterly winds down east and coast. so a— northeasterly winds down east and coast. so a little cooler tene— and coast. so a little cooler ten to— and coast. so a little cooler here to start— and coast. so a little cooler here to start the— and coast. so a little cooler here to start the day on tuesday . if here to start the day on tuesday . tt non— here to start the day on tuesday . tt non oe— here to start the day on tuesday . tt non tn— here to start the day on tuesday . if you are in that— here to start the day on tuesday . if you are in that fresh tneee— . if you are in that fresh breeze and— . if you are in that fresh breeze and as- . if you are in that fresh breeze and as well, if you're unten— breeze and as well, if you're nnten-ot— breeze and as well, if you're under-of those- breeze and as well, if you're under of those clearer skies under any of those clearer skies tonnen— under any of those clearer skies tnntnen nest— under any of those clearer skies further west as— under any of those clearer skies further west as temperatures ntt— further west as temperatures nttt none— further west as temperatures will have dropped lower will have dropped a little lower tene— will have dropped a little lower nee—not— will have dropped a little lower nene—nntltne- here last night. but in the wag,— here last night. but in the west, tnot-s— here last night. but in the west, that's where we will see tne— west, that's where we will see tne test— west, that's where we will see tne test ot— west, that's where we will see the best of the— west, that's where we will see the best of the sunshine through toon— the best of the sunshine through toton-os— the best of the sunshine through toton-os tne— the best of the sunshine through today, as the highest today, as well as the highest temperatures— today, as well as the highest temperatures in— today, as well as the highest temperatures in all of these tengtnn— temperatures in all of these tengtnn sonny— temperatures in all of these lengthy sunny spells with highs in lengthy sunny spells with highs tn tne— lengthy sunny spells with highs tn tne ton— lengthy sunny spells with highs tn tne ton to— lengthy sunny spells with highs in the low to mid— lengthy sunny spells with highs in the low to mid 20s through toon— in the low to mid 20s through toton .— in the low to mid 20s through toton . ton,— in the low to mid 20s through toton . ton, os— in the low to mid 20s through today . now, as we go into this today. now, as we go into this enentng— today. now, as we go into this enentng, ne— today. now, as we go into this evening, we will— today. now, as we go into this evening, we will start to see tnot— evening, we will start to see tnot otont— evening, we will start to see that cloud that's— evening, we will start to see that cloud that's in the east inst— that cloud that's in the east inst onsntng— that cloud that's in the east just pushing further west tnnongn— just pushing further west through tonight. and it's going to none— through tonight. and it's going to move more bodily westwards tnon— to move more bodily westwards tnon nnot— to move more bodily westwards than what we've— to move more bodily westwards than what we've seen of late. so noon— than what we've seen of late. so noon ot— than what we've seen of late. so much of england— than what we've seen of late. so much of england and wales will be unten— much of england and wales will be under cloud— much of england and wales will be under cloud cover by the ston— be under cloud cover by the ston ot— be under cloud cover by the start of wednesday morning. so a ntgnt— start of wednesday morning. so a ntgnt tn— start of wednesday morning. so a warmer night in general, but tnene— warmer night in general, but tnene nttt— warmer night in general, but there will be— warmer night in general, but there will be some clearer skies across northern— there will be some clearer skies across northern ireland and esten— across northern ireland and western scotland . so we could western scotland. so we could inst— western scotland. so we could tnst see— western scotland. so we could just see temperatures dropping just see temperatures dropping tnst o— just see temperatures dropping tnst o ttttte— just see temperatures dropping just a little bit— just see temperatures dropping just a little bit lower here. so

a just a little bit lower here. so ootontten— just a little bit lower here. so a cloudier start— just a little bit lower here. so a cloudier start to— just a little bit lower here. so a cloudier start to the day on netneston— a cloudier start to the day on wednesday for— a cloudier start to the day on wednesday for some than of late. ant— wednesday for some than of late. ant tnts— wednesday for some than of late. ant tnts toes— wednesday for some than of late. and this does mean— wednesday for some than of late. and this does mean that it will tote— and this does mean that it will tote o— and this does mean that it will tote o ttttte— and this does mean that it will take a little longer for that otont— take a little longer for that otont to— take a little longer for that cloud to push— take a little longer for that cloud to push its way back tononts— cloud to push its way back towards-north- cloud to push its way back towards north sea. but that towards the north sea. but that nttt— towards the north sea. but that nttt ston— towards the north sea. but that nttt ston to— towards the north sea. but that will start to happen as we get going— will start to happen as we get gotng tnnongn— will start to happen as we get going through the morning. but it going through the morning. but tt—tt-tt— going through the morning. but tt—tt-tt te— going through the morning. but tt—tt-tt te o- going through the morning. but it it'll be a slightly it does mean it'll be a slightly otontten— it does mean it'll be a slightly otontten ton— it does mean it'll be a slightly cloudier day for— it does mean it'll be a slightly cloudier day for western parts of cloudier day for western parts ot—tngtont- cloudier day for western parts of england throughout of wales and england throughout the of wales and england throughout tne ton— of wales and england throughout the day wednesday. best of the day on wednesday. best of the day on wednesday. best of the sunshine,— the day on wednesday. best of the sunshine, though, will otnons— the sunshine, though, will otnons te — the sunshine, though, will otnons te tn— the sunshine, though, will always be in the west with that ooot— always be in the west with that ooot nontn — always be in the west with that cool north easterly breeze still nenststtng— cool north easterly breeze still oenststtng ton— cool north easterly breeze still persisting for eastern coast. so otnons— persisting for eastern coast. so otnons teettng— persisting for eastern coast. so always feeling cooler here and tnot— always feeling cooler here and tnot eost— always feeling cooler here and that east west— always feeling cooler here and that east west split is going to oonttnne—tne- that east west split is going to continue the much that east west split is going to. continue _the much of continue throughout the much of the continue throughout the much of tne nest— continue throughout the much of tne nest ot— continue throughout the much of the rest of this— continue throughout the much of the rest of this week, though , the rest of this week, though, ntgns— the rest of this week, though, ntgns nttt— the rest of this week, though, highs will still— the rest of this week, though, highs will still get into the ton— highs will still get into the ton zes— highs will still get into the low 20s, especially across the nest— low 20s, especially across the nest .—

my my friend. the toxicity is not with me. dan wootton or anyone etse.— with me. dan wootton or anyone etse. tne— with me. dan wootton or anyone else. the toxicity— with me. dan wootton or anyone else. the toxicity is— dan wootton or anyone else. the toxicity is with you ont— else. the toxicity is with you ont nonn— else. the toxicity is with you and your mates— else. the toxicity is with you and your mates and management. tonnn— and your mates and management. tonnn hotnes— and your mates and management. eamonn holmes hits— and your mates and management. eamonn holmes hits out— and your mates and management. eamonn holmes hits out at- eamonn holmes hits out at phillip schofield in an explosive interview with gb news news. good morning. it's 7:00 on tuesday. news. good morning. it's 7:00 on tneston. tne— news. good morning. it's 7:00 on tuesday. the 30th— news. good morning. it's 7:00 on tuesday. the 30th of— news. good morning. it's 7:00 on tuesday. the 30th of may.- \ c: th it's 7:00 on tuesday. the 30th of may. this is tuesday. the 30th of may. this ts nneottost— tuesday. the 30th of may. this is breakfast on— tuesday. the 30th of may. this is breakfast on gb— tuesday. the 30th of may. this is breakfast on gb news with tttte— is breakfast on gb news with ellie costello— is breakfast on gb news with ellie costello and myself. nontn— ellie costello and myself. martin daubney. here's what's teottng— martin daubney. here's what's teottng tne— martin daubney. here's what's leading the news— martin daubney. here's what's leading the news this morning . leading the news this morning. tonnn— leading the news this morning. eamonn holmes— leading the news this morning. eamonn holmes has— leading the news this morning. eamonn holmes has branded phillip schofield a chief narcissist in an exclusive bombshell interview with gb news. during the sit down chat with dan wootton, he also accused itv , itv of toxicity and accused itv, itv of toxicity and of covering up the presenter's affair with a younger male colleague. and affair with a younger male colleague . and the government is colleague. and the government is neottng— colleague. and the government is neottng ton— colleague. and the government is neottng ton o— colleague. and the government is heading for a legal— cg and the government is heading for a legal battle with the heading for a legal battle with tne nontento— heading for a legal battle with the pandemic inquiry over the eeotse— the pandemic inquiry over the eeotse ot— the pandemic inquiry over the release of boris— the pandemic inquiry over the release of boris johnson's nnotsann— release of boris johnson's whatsapp messages . today at

whatsapp messages. today at neoo,— whatsapp messages. today at 4:00, ministers— whatsapp messages. today at 4:00, ministers will decide nnetnen— 4:00, ministers will decide nnetnen to— 4:00, ministers will decide whether to launch a judicial tn— whether to launch a judicial tn on— whether to launch a judicial review in an attempt to avoid nontng— review in an attempt to avoid nontng to— review in an attempt to avoid having to hand— review in an attempt to avoid having to hand over messages and onones— having to hand over messages and ttontes . — having to hand over messages and diaries. labour— having to hand over messages and diaries. labour would- having to hand over messages and diaries . : diaries. labour would allow local authorities ses to buy land cheaply if they intend to build on it . land cheaply if they intend to build on it. it's part of a plan to ease the housing crisis. it comes amid reports tory donor property developers are withholding funds in protest at the government's failure to build houses and pub and restaurant owners are urging the government for support after they saw their energy bills store soar by a staggering 81. less than a third of hospitality tnstnesses— less than a third of hospitality businesses are— less than a third of hospitality businesses are optimistic about tnen— businesses are optimistic about tnetn tntnne,— businesses are optimistic about their future, according to tntnstn— their future, according to industry bodies . and do keep industry bodies. and do keep getttng— industry bodies. and do keep getttng tn— industry bodies. and do keep getting in touch— industry bodies. and do keep getting in touch with us this nonntng— getting in touch with us this nonntng on— getting in touch with us this morning on any— getting in touch with us this morning on any of the stories tnot— morning on any of the stories tnot nete— morning on any of the stories that we're talking about. clo that we're talking about. gb vtens— that we're talking about. gb vtens ot— that we're talking about. gb vtens ot on— that we're talking about. gb views at gb news— that we're talking about. gb views at gb news .com.- that we're talking about. gb views at gb news .com. lots of you getting in touch about your local pub, alan and marilyn say the most expensive pint of lager they had was in the lake district year. £7 for district last year. £7 for a pint of lager , £8 for a glass of

pint of lager, £8 for a glass of wine. yeah because we put a call out wine. yeah because we put a call ont eontten— wine. yeah because we put a call ont eontten ton— wine. yeah because we put a call out earlier for britain's— out earlier for britain's nntotest— out earlier for britain's priciest pint- out earlier for britain's priciest pint .- out earlier for britain's priciest pint . we often hear priciest pint. we often hear ooont— priciest pint. we often hear otont, non— priciest pint. we often hear about, you know, what's the cheapest— about, you know, what's the cheapest, what's— about, you know, what's the cheapest, what's the price? us i ot— cheapest, what's the price? us i was at liverpool— cheapest, what's the price? us i was at liverpool street at the neetentt— was at liverpool street at the weekend, £7.50.— was at liverpool street at the weekend, £7.50. but check this ont— weekend, £7.50. but check this ont. inst— weekend, £7.50. but check this ont. tnst tn— weekend, £7.50. but check this ont. tnst tn tn— weekend, £7.50. but check this out. just in in coventry. i'm going— out. just in in coventry. i'm gotng to— out. just in in coventry. i'm gotng to o— out. just in in coventry. i'm gotng to o sno— out. just in in coventry. i'm going to a spa in- out. just in in coventry. i'm going to a spa in kettering and i going to a spa in kettering and ttnst— going to a spa in kettering and t tnst nonnt— going to a spa in kettering and i just found out— going to a spa in kettering and i just found out it— going to a spa in kettering and i just found out it charges anno— i just found out it charges £9.90 ton— i just found out it charges £9.90 ton o— i just found out it charges £9.90 for a pint of beer. what is £9.90 for a pint of beer. what ts tte— £9.90 for a pint of beer. what ts tte nnot— £9.90 for a pint of beer. what is it? what do— £9.90 for a pint of beer. what is it? what do you— £9.90 for a pint of beer. what is it? what do you get for £9? ttne— is it? what do you get for £9? ttne nnote— is it? what do you get for £9? nine what? pint— is it? what do you get for £9? nine what? pint of wine? like son — nine what? pint of wine? like sam allardyce. _ nine what? pint of wine? like sam allardyce. that seems to be the sam allardyce. that seems to be tne nontt-s— sam allardyce. that seems to be the world's most— sam allardyce. that seems to be the world's most expense . lviv the world's most expense. lviv ntnt. — the world's most expense. lviv otnt. atnost— the world's most expense. lviv otnt. atnost o— the world's most expense. lviv pint. almost a tenner for a ntnt. — pint. almost a tenner for a otnt. att. — pint. almost a tenner for a otnt. at. t— pint. almost a tenner for a pint. ali. ithink- pint. almost a tenner for a pint. ali. i think that's pint. ali. 1 think that's nnototn— pint. ali. i think that's onototn . — pint. ali. i think that's probably - i- pint. ali. i think that's probably . ”c; pint. ali. i think that's- probably . i think you're not probably. i think you're not wrong there. yeah £9.90 is the most expensive pint that i've ever seen. but that was in dubun ever seen. but that was in dublin and it's euros so it's not yeah not quite the not quite. yeah not quite the same. in i can't same. andy in dorset i can't afford to drink in my local pub anymore. instead i take a 15 minute journey poole minute train journey to poole and the wetherspoons. and i use the wetherspoons. there it's a lot cheaper. i think there's a lot of people who are having to change their drinking and go elsewhere who are having to change their dridrink and go elsewhere who are having to change their dridrink at and go elsewhere who are having to change their dridrink at home. igo elsewhere who are having to change their dridrink at home. i totally where or drink at home. i totally agree. or drink at home. i totally gee ant— or drink at home. i totally gee ant t— or drink at home. i totally agree. and i go— or drink at home. i totally agree. and i go and- : ” i totally agree. and i go and do my snonptng— agree. and i go and do my

snoootng eo— agree. and i go and do my shopping near a wetherspoons tostootn— shopping near a wetherspoons basically intentional. yes, i get— basically intentional. yes, i get ott— basically intentional. yes, i get ott my— basically intentional. yes, i can get all my shopping and a ten— can get all my shopping and a ten teens— can get all my shopping and a few beers for— can get all my shopping and a few beers for the— can get all my shopping and a few beers for the same price as if i few beers for the same price as tt t go— few beers for the same price as if i go elsewhere.— few beers for the same price as if i go elsewhere. so i'm kind of if i go elsewhere. so i'm kind ot oonton— if i go elsewhere. so i'm kind of carbon neutral. _ if i go elsewhere. so i'm kind of carbon neutral. very good. ont— of carbon neutral. very good. on tne— of carbon neutral. very good. on tne got— of carbon neutral. very good. on tne got o— of carbon neutral. very good. but i've got a few pints on ooont— but i've got a few pints on toont. t— but i've got a few pints on board. i think— but i've got a few pints on board. i think it- but i've got a few pints on board. i think it makes sense. ton-ne— board. i think it makes sense. tonne got— board. i think it makes sense. tonne got tt— board. i think it makes sense. you've got it all— board. i think it makes sense. you've got it all worked- board. i think it makes sense. you've got it all worked out, haven't you? maria says it's not just pubs who face closure. small that supply just pubs who face closure. smallare that supply just pubs who face closure. smallare closing supply just pubs who face closure. smallare closing up.tply just pubs who face closure. smallare closing up. it's a them are also closing up. it's a great point. maria wholesalers and local grocers butchers and local grocers and butchers rely for bread and rely on pubs for bread and butter for when pubs butter turnover for when pubs suffer. does trickle down to suffer. it does trickle down to all the related small businesses. okay, so keep those stories coming . stories coming. in to our top story now and eamonn holmes has claimed there was a total cover up over philip schofield's affair with a much younger man in exclusive interview with gb news and itv has denied the allegations , saying that they allegations, saying that they investigated when rumours of a relationship first surfaced. but both parties categorically

ont— but both parties categorically and repeatedly— but both parties categorically and repeatedly denied them . w and repeatedly denied them. in a sit and repeatedly denied them. in a stt tonn— and repeatedly denied them. in a sit down interview— and repeatedly denied them. in a sit down interview with- and repeatedly denied them. in a sit down interview with dan wootton, eamonn holmes also called out what he saw as a culture of toxicity. at this morning . let's take a listen. in morning. let's take a listen. in life, i have always had this belief that a lie unchallenged becomes the truth. so although i ton-t— becomes the truth. so although i ton-t nont— becomes the truth. so although i ton-t nont to— becomes the truth. so although i don't want to stand— becomes the truth. so although i don't want to stand up— becomes the truth. so although i don't want to stand up to- don't want to stand up to sonottett— don't want to stand up to schofield constantly pointing out schofield constantly pointing ontnnene— schofield constantly pointing out where he's— schofield constantly pointing out where he's lying , i feel out where he's lying, i feel i none— out where he's lying, i feel i none to— out where he's lying, i feel i none to .— out where he's lying, i feel i none to . ts— out where he's lying, i feel i have to . is he— out where he's lying, i feel i have to . is he delusional? does have to. is he delusional? does he have to. is he delusional? does ne tnogtnet— have to. is he delusional? does he imagined the— have to. is he delusional? does he imagined the or is he so tetoonet— he imagined the or is he so detached from _ he imagined the or is he so detached from real life at this nonntng— detached from real life at this nonntng tnot— detached from real life at this morning that he— detached from real life at this morning that he didn't realise nnot— morning that he didn't realise nnot os— morning that he didn't realise nnot gotng— morning that he didn't realise what was going on? i often say tnts— what was going on? i often say tnts to— what was going on? i often say tnts to tnn— what was going on? i often say this to ruth. i— what was going on? i often say this to ruth. i said— what was going on? i often say this to ruth. i said maybe he tettenes— this to ruth. i said maybe he believes all— this to ruth. i said maybe he believes all this— this to ruth. i said maybe he believes all this stuff. maybe he believes all this stuff. maybe ne ttt— believes all this stuff. maybe ne ttt not— believes all this stuff. maybe he did not see— believes all this stuff. maybe he did not see what went on ootnottn— he did not see what went on actually, because _ he did not see what went on actually, because there's sonetntng— actually, because there's something wrong with him . but he something wrong with him. but he is something wrong with him. but he ts tne— something wrong with him. but he ts tne ontet— something wrong with him. but he is the chief nana— something wrong with him. but he is the chief nana ethicist. he is the chief nana ethicist. he ts o— is the chief nana ethicist. he ts o oonntete— is the chief nana ethicist. he is a complete and uttered dyed in is a complete and uttered dyed tn tne— is a complete and uttered dyed tn tne noot— is a complete and uttered dyed in the wool narcissist. tnentntng— in the wool narcissist. everything is- in the wool narcissist. everything is about him. what did everything is about him. what ttt non— everything is about him. what ttt non tnon— everything is about him. what did you know about this young e — did you know about this young man ? because— did you know about this young man ? because he- did you know about this young man ? f man? because he was there a lot. he's been pictured on the sofa

as a very young teenager sitting in between holly willoughby and phillip schofield . and then phillip schofield. and then i remember working at itv daytime and he was a non—negotiable part of philip's life. sometimes there would even be taxis ferrying this young man between the studio and philip's house. so what did you know about him before he was moved on to loose women? i didn't know, but i've subsequently found out from a very, very good source because he would arrive much earlier in the morning than i would for the programme that he was delivered from philip's london home. usually on a friday morning, teoonse— usually on a friday morning, because thursday was playtime nnen— because thursday was playtime nnen ne— because thursday was playtime nnen ne ont— because thursday was playtime when he and philip would hit the tonn— when he and philip would hit the tonn ont— when he and philip would hit the tonn ont tnen— when he and philip would hit the town and then he— when he and philip would hit the town and then he obviously stoned— town and then he obviously stayed overnight and there are neoonts— stayed overnight and there are neoonts to— stayed overnight and there are records to show— stayed overnight and there are records to show that he was tnongnt— records to show that he was tnongnt tn— records to show that he was brought in the— records to show that he was brought in the next day senonoten— brought in the next day separately in- brought in the next day separately in cars paid for by no.— separately in cars paid for by ttt, os— separately in cars paid for by ttt, noto— separately in cars paid for by itv, cars paid for— separately in cars paid for by itv, cars paid for by itv. so tte— itv, cars paid for by itv. so the management— itv, cars paid for by itv. so the management would have had to have known about that, wouldn't they, the

they, unless philip paid the bill separately . but it would bill separately. but it would stttt— bill separately. but it would stttt none— bill separately. but it would still have to— bill separately. but it would still have to go— cc but it would still have to go through the accounts—they . still have to go through the- accounts_they would accounts office that they would none — accounts office that they would have seen that— accounts office that they would have seen that and known that it's have seen that and known that tt-sltotot— have seen that and known that it'sltotal cover— have seen that and known that it'sltotal cover up.- have seen that and known that it's total cover up. those in it's a total cover up. those in ontnonttn— it's a total cover up. those in ontnonttn not— it's a total cover up. those in authority had to— it's a total cover up. those in authority had to know. they had to know— authority had to know. they had to know-gotng- authority had to know. they had to know-going on- authority had to know. they had to know going on and to know what was going on and tnen— to know what was going on and tnen tnongnt— to know what was going on and they thought they— to know what was going on and they thought they would dodge a tnttet— they thought they would dodge a tnttet nttn— they thought they would dodge a bullet with this, _ they thought they would dodge a bullet with this, which they nnton— bullet with this, which they nnot-ant- bullet with this, which they which _and they i bullet with this, which they which and they do which they do. and they do oonstontn— which they do. and they do constantly because with schofield _ constantly because with schofield talking about it, tnose— schofield talking about it, tnose nno— schofield talking about it, those who speak out against him, notnn— those who speak out against him, notnn ne— those who speak out against him, mainly me, amanda holden and you,— mainly me, amanda holden and non, non-tt— mainly me, amanda holden and non, non-tt te— mainly me, amanda holden and you, you'll be included in the toxtottn— you, you'll be included in the toxtottn tnot— you, you'll be included in the toxicity that that— you, you'll be included in the toxicity that that goes on. dr. toni— toxicity that that goes on. dr. tont to — toxicity that that goes on. dr. tont to on. — toxicity that that goes on. dr. ton- to on. nont— toxicity that that goes on. dr. ranj to dr. ranj of course as nett— ranj to dr. ranj of course as net. t— ranj to dr. ranj of course as well. i think— ranj to dr. ranj of course as well. i think philip is absolutely- well. i think philip is absolutely right about toxic notn— absolutely right about toxic notn ont— absolutely right about toxic notn tnt my— absolutely right about toxic motty but my friend , the motty but my friend, the toxtottn— motty but my friend, the toxtottn ts— motty but my friend, the toxicity is not— motty but my friend, the toxicity is not with me , dan toxicity is not with me, dan nootton— toxicity is not with me, dan nootton on— toxicity is not with me, dan wootton or anyone else . the wootton or anyone else. the toxtottn— wootton or anyone else. the toxtottn ts— wootton or anyone else. the toxicity is with— wootton or anyone else. the toxicity is with you and your notes— toxicity is with you and your notes tn— toxicity is with you and your mates in management and enentotn— mates in management and everybody nno— mates in management and everybody who kept you in power and everybody who kept you in power ont tn— everybody who kept you in power and in abusive— everybody who kept you in power and in abusive power for so tong.— and in abusive power for so tong. ant— and in abusive power for so tong. ant tt— and in abusive power for so long. and if i'm— and in abusive power for so long. and if i'm guilty of onntntng,— long. and if i'm guilty of anything, it's— long. and if i'm guilty of anything, it's speaking up for all anything, it's speaking up for ott tnose— anything, it's speaking up for all those research hours who you tgnonett— all those research hours who you tgnonet, ott— all those research hours who you ignored, all those— all those research hours who you ignored, all those producers who you ignored, all those producers who non tneotet— ignored, all those producers who you treated like— ignored, all those producers who you treated like dirt, all those neonte— you treated like dirt, all those neoote nno— you treated like dirt, all those neoote nno oe— you treated like dirt, all those people who are texting and pbonin9_ people who are texting and pboning ne— people who are texting and phoning me and dan wootton and

sontng,— phoning me and dan wootton and sayingn ne— phoning me and dan wootton and sontng, ne teet— phoning me and dan wootton and saying, we feel now— phoning me and dan wootton and saying, we feel now empowered to ont— saying, we feel now empowered to ont ont— saying, we feel now empowered to come out and tell— saying, we feel now empowered to come out and tell the public the tnntn— come out and tell the public the truth because— come out and tell the public the truth because the— come out and tell the public the truth because the truth is the nnttto— truth because the truth is the nnttto oon-t— truth because the truth is the public can't handle the truth the public can't handle the truth tne nnttto— public can't handle the truth the public don't— public can't handle the truth the public don't want. they tntnt— the public don't want. they tntnt none— the public don't want. they think you're little broom think you're a little broom onntoont— think you're a little broom cupboard person. they grew cupboard person. and they grew up cupboard person. and they grew no nttn— cupboard person. and they grew no nttn non— cupboard person. and they grew up with you .you're - up with you and you're lovely ont— and you're adorable and nnotenen— and you're adorable and. whatever, _your and you're adorable and- whatever, _your fame whatever, but you let your fame ont— whatever, but you let your fame one-none— whatever, but you let your fame and-power corrupt- whatever, but you let your fame and power corrupt you and and your power corrupt you and tnot-s— and your power corrupt you and tnot-s nnene — and your power corrupt you and that's where we're— and your power corrupt you and that's where we're at today . and that's where we're at today. and if that's where we're at today. and tt tn— that's where we're at today. and tt tn gntttn— that's where we're at today. and tt tn gntttn ot— that's where we're at today. and if i'm guilty of anything, it's gntttn— if i'm guilty of anything, it's gntttn ot— if i'm guilty of anything, it's guilty of exposing you . and then guilty of exposing you. and then itv spokesperson— guilty of exposing you. and then itv spokesperson has said tnnnen— itv spokesperson has said tnntnen to— itv spokesperson has said further to our— itv spokesperson has said further to our statement on sotnnton— further to our statement on saturday that— further to our statement on saturday that itv can confirm tnot— saturday that itv can confirm tnot nnen— saturday that itv can confirm that when rumours of a relationship— that when rumours of a relationship between phillip sonottett— relationship between phillip schofield and _ relationship between phillip schofield and an employee of itv ttnst— schofield and an employee of itv ttnst tegon— schofield and an employee of itv ttnst tegon to— schofield and an employee of itv first began to circulate in eontt— first began to circulate in eonn ooze,— first began to circulate in early 2020, itv investigated notn— early 2020, itv investigated notn oontes— early 2020, itv investigated both parties were questioned and notn— both parties were questioned and both categorically— both parties were questioned and both categorically and neneotetn— both categorically and repeatedly denied the rumours , repeatedly denied the rumours, as repeatedly denied the rumours, os ttt— repeatedly denied the rumours, as did philip's— repeatedly denied the rumours, as did philip's then agency ntnenn. — as did philip's then agency ntnenn. tn— as did philip's then agency wiremu. w c:: . as did philip's then agency wiremu. w . wiremu. in addition, itv spoke to a number of people who worked on this morning and were not provided with and did not find any evidence of a relationship beyond hearsay and rumour.

philip's statement on friday reveals that he lied to people at itv from senior management to fellow presenters to wiremu , to fellow presenters to wiremu, to the media and to others over this relationship . well, joining this relationship. well, joining us now is showbiz— well, joining us now is showbiz reporter stennonte— us now is showbiz reporter stephanie takyi _ us now is showbiz reporter stephanie takyi . good morning to stephanie takyi. good morning to you,— stephanie takyi. good morning to non, stennonte— stephanie takyi. good morning to non, steononte .— stephanie takyi. good morning to non, steononte . t— stephanie takyi. good morning to you, stephanie . i mean, this is you, stephanie. i mean, this is an you, stephanie. i mean, this is on exntostne— you, stephanie. i mean, this is an explosive live— you, stephanie. i mean, this is an explosive live interview, tsn-t— an explosive live interview, tsn-t tte— an explosive live interview, isn't it? what— an explosive live interview, isn't it? what do you make of to — isn't it? what do you make of to ton— isn't it? what do you make of it? you know,— isn't it? what do you make of it? you know, i— isn't it? what do you make of it? you know, i think- isn't it? what do you make of- it? you know, i think now people are saying, oh, this story, why doesit are saying, oh, this story, why does it keep on going on and on? because there's more stuff that's coming out. and i don't think it's sufficient for itv to say we don't investigate back in 2020. we are now in 2023. there's more evidence come out like what eamonn is saying in the interview about the taxis, the interview about the taxis, the production staff not being able to speak out. and i think itv now have to do another investigation or it has to be an independent investigation, because what they've done is not enough. what they've tried to do is sweep it underneath the carpet. and what's coming out is

more damaging stories. if they want to protect the brand of this morning and say they're not a toxic culture, they do have to investigate all these things that people are saying , that people are saying, including eamonn holmes and one of the really punchy lines from eamonn. and there are many you can eamonn. and there are many you oneot— eamonn. and there are many you oneotlont— eamonn. and there are many you can checklout on— eamonn. and there are many you can checklout on our- and there are many you can check out on our youtube can check it out on our youtube ononnet— can check it out on our youtube ononnet ot— can check it out on our youtube ononnet ot on— can check it out on our youtube channel at gb news. it's a tetnston— channel at gb news. it's a delusion, an— channel at gb news. it's a delusion, an illusion, a total no. ant— delusion, an illusion, a total cover up. and then he talks ooont— cover up. and then he talks otont tne— cover up. and then he talks about the future— cover up. and then he talks about the future of hollywood, nnton— about the future of hollywood, nnton ot— about the future of hollywood, which of course— about the future of hollywood, which of course is— about the future of hollywood, which of course is big topic. which of course is a big topic. ant— which of course is a big topic. and-unequivocal.- which of course is a big topic. and unequivocal. he said and he's unequivocal. he said tnot— and he's unequivocal. he said tnot t— and he's unequivocal. he said tnot t ton-t— and he's unequivocal. he said that i don't-we- and he's unequivocal. he said that i don't we will ever that i don't think we will ever see-ogotn— that i don't think we will ever see-ogotn on— that i don't think we will ever see-again on that- that i don't think we will ever see again on that sofa, but see her again on that sofa, but not— see her again on that sofa, but not ooont— see her again on that sofa, but not about protecting the show, not about protecting the show, not ooont— not about protecting the show, not about protecting the show, not about protecting this young lad:— not about protecting this young tot, ont— not about protecting this young lad, but protecting, he says , lad, but protecting, he says, nen— lad, but protecting, he says, nen on— lad, but protecting, he says, her own brand.— lad, but protecting, he says, her own brand. well martin, tnot-s— her own brand. well martin, tnot-s nnot— her own brand. well martin, that's what i— her own brand. well martin, that's what i feel like it's teen— that's what i feel like it's been happening here. i think a lot been happening here. i think a tot ot— been happening here. i think a tot ot ooonte— been happening here. i think a lot of people have been trying to cover their own backs. from phillip schofield, from holly, trying to still maintain a relationship this morning . relationship with this morning. and even this boy and viewers even this boy involved. it seems like people have totally forgotten about him and his welfare. and that's the big question here. it's not about his relationship with

phillip. it's about how was he protected and why was he ousted from this morning onto loose women the way he was ? so all women the way he was? so all these kind of questions that are coming up from both the public and within the media, they need to be answered. there needs to be that duty of care. you know, there's been too many lives lost, as caroline flack , lost, such as caroline flack, where just left them to where itv has just left them to rot to the walls and they haven't actually dealt with it effectively. stephanie, haven't actually dealt with it effectively . stephanie, what do effectively. stephanie, what do you effectively. stephanie, what do non onettot— effectively. stephanie, what do you predict that— effectively. stephanie, what do you predict that will— tz;�*"�*"t:i;tt.c ocean stephanie, what do you predict that will happen nttn— you predict that will happen nttn tnts— you predict that will happen with this morning ? because it is with this morning? because it is tnts— with this morning? because it is tnts tontn— with this morning? because it is this family show— with this morning? because it is this family show .— with this morning? because it is this family show. it's warm, tts— this family show. it's warm, tt-s neont— this family show. it's warm, it's meant to— this family show. it's warm, it's meant to be— this family show. it's warm, it's meant to be this welcoming, sone— it's meant to be this welcoming, sote ntooe— it's meant to be this welcoming, sote ntooe ton— it's meant to be this welcoming, safe place for people to tune in enen— safe place for people to tune in enen stngte— safe place for people to tune in every single morning. and we had safe place for people to tune in everanjigle morning. and we had safe place for people to tune in everanj singhiorning. and we had safe place for people to tune in everanj singh speakingnd we had safe place for people to tune in everanj singh speaking out/e had dr. ranj singh speaking out nestenton— dr. ranj singh speaking out nestenton .— dr. ranj singh speaking out yesterday . we've eamonn yesterday. we've got eamonn hotnes— yesterday. we've got eamonn notnes—tt- yesterday. we've got eamonn notnes—tt ts| holmes today. i mean, it is tonogtng— holmes today. i mean, it is tonogtng tnts— holmes today. i mean, it is damaging this brand. and what it's damaging this brand. and what tt-s snnnoset— damaging this brand. and what tt-s snoooset to— damaging this brand. and what it's supposed to stand for. nten-ne— it's supposed to stand for. tnen-ne-to- it's supposed to stand for. they're to losing it's supposed to stand for.- they're _to i losing money they're going to be losing money by they're going to be losing money tn-tnen-ne— they're going to be losing money by-they've already- they're going to be losing moneyj by-they've already had by the day. they've already had adverts , users are pulling adverts, users who are pulling out. having guests who out. they're having guests who don't appear on the show don't want to appear on the show . how can you go on like . so how long can you go on like this? so eventually the bosses are going have take are going to have to either take the air and rebrand it the show off air and rebrand it as a new format with new

presenters because a presenters, because this is a storm which is going to continue going, at least for another few weeks there's going be weeks and there's going to be more damage stuff that's more damage and stuff that's coming i think maybe last coming out. i think maybe last week phillip out his week when phillip put out his statement, they probably thought the go on as normal, the show could go on as normal, but normal. but he can't go on as normal. there's going be more damage there's going to be more damage damaging revelations. so i think for to have for now, they're going to have to show off air. to pull that show off air. yeah, stephanie, great point. ant— yeah, stephanie, great point. ant onotnen— yeah, stephanie, great point. and another huge moment. the stoot— and another huge moment. the stoot-onen— and another huge moment. the stoot-onen tn— and another huge moment. the stock-open in a- and another huge moment. the stock open in a think stock markets open in a i think in stock markets open in a i think tn-nonn-s— stock markets open in a i think in-hour's time- stock markets open in a i think in-hour's time and. in about an hour's time and neonte— in about an hour's time and neoote oe— in about an hour's time and people are going to be keeping a nen— people are going to be keeping a nen-ene— people are going to be keeping a very-eye on— people are going to be keeping a very-eye on tne— people are going to be keeping a very-eye on the itv- people are going to be keeping a very eye on the itv share very close eye on the itv share onoe— very close eye on the itv share onoe teoonse— very close eye on the itv share price because, of— very close eye on the itv share price because, of course, if the snes— price because, of course, if the snes ston— price because, of course, if the shares start plummet, then price because, of course, if the shartreallyt plummet, then price because, of course, if the share really willzilummet, then price because, of course, if the share really will be �*nmet, then price because, of course, if the share really will be forced then price because, of course, if the share really will be forced tozn price because, of course, if the share really will be forced to do they really will be forced to do sonetntng— they really will be forced to do sonetntng-non- they really will be forced to do something you, stephanie something. thank you, stephanie tonn— something. thank you, stephanie takyit--_ something. thank you, stephanie totnt-. onon— something. thank you, stephanie takyi, . okay. moving on takyi, for that. okay. moving on onlo— takyi, for that. okay. moving on onlo next— takyi, for that. okay. moving on now-our next story. - takyi, for that. okay. moving on now our next story. the now to our next story. the gonennnent— now to our next story. the government - a l now to our next story. the. government-a legal government is set for a legal snontonn— government is set for a legal showdown .the - government is set for a legal showdown the pandemic showdown with the pandemic tngntn— showdown with the pandemic tngntn-ot— showdown with the pandemic tngntn-ot o- showdown with the pandemic inquiry. of a deadline for inquiry. ahead of a deadline for the inquiry. ahead of a deadline for tne oottnet— inquiry. ahead of a deadline for the cabinet office— inquiry. ahead of a deadline for the cabinet office to hand over nons— the cabinet office to hand over boris johnson's— the cabinet office to hand over boris johnson's whatsapps and tones— boris johnson's whatsapps and diaries- pandemic- boris johnson's whatsapps and diaries pandemic. diaries from the pandemic. nett— diaries from the pandemic. well, baroness— diaries from the pandemic. well, baroness hallett- diaries from the pandemic. well, baroness hallett the inquiries chairwoman wants to see unriddle acted messages between johnson sunak hancock and dozens of others. yeah, ministers have just until 4 pm.

today to provide all the material or launch a legal challenge to the ruling. our head of digital news,- d th our head of digital news, dan totnen— head of digital news, dan notnen, totns— head of digital news, dan falvey, joins us now. dan, so tene— falvey, joins us now. dan, so nene ne— falvey, joins us now. dan, so nene no go— falvey, joins us now. dan, so nene we go ogotn— falvey, joins us now. dan, so here we go again . it feels like here we go again. it feels like tne— here we go again. it feels like the pandemic— here we go again. it feels like the pandemic diaries round two, exoent— the pandemic diaries round two, erent tnts— the pandemic diaries round two, except this time— the pandemic diaries round two, except this time it's not nonooot— except this time it's not hancock in— except this time it's not hancock in the dock. it's boris. toot.— hancock in the dock. it's boris. yeah, absolutely— hancock in the dock. it's boris. yeah, absolutely .— hancock in the dock. it's boris. yeah, absolutely . and- hancock in the dock. it's boris. yeah, absolutely. and boris johnson, i think is kind of standing by a bit like, why am i the centre of all of this? because what's happened? boris johnson has handed over his text messages and his diaries to the cabinet office and it is the cabinet office and it is the cabinet office and it is the cabinet office that has then gone through them and decided what should be handed over to the covid and kyrees. they've gone and these gone through it and said these bits bits bits are relevant, these bits aren't. so he's getting an awful lot of flak in the press for this. and i think he's saying, hold on minute, this is hold on a minute, this is nothing do me. i've done nothing to do with me. i've done my it's up for the my bit. it's up for the government and the covid inquiry to work amongst themselves to work out amongst themselves what isn't relevant. what is and isn't relevant. don't blame me. it's interesting, 1:th c it's interesting, though, isn't it? neoonse— interesting, though, isn't it? because.does_ interesting, though, isn't it? because does the because it does raise the gnestton— because it does raise the gnestton ot— because it does raise the question of where is the line of pntnoon— privacy for politician actions? i privacy for politician actions? t-snontt— privacy for politician actions?

t-snontt-te- privacy for politician actions? i-should-be able| privacy for politician actions?l i-should-be able or i mean, should they be able or stone— i mean, should they be able or snontt tnen— i mean, should they be able or should they be— i mean, should they be able or should they be expected to hand ott— should they be expected to hand ott ot— should they be expected to hand over all of-private- over all of their private nnessoesg— over all of their private messages7-nl over all of their private. messages?-, that's over all of their private- messages?-, that's what's messages? i mean, that's what's tetng— messages? i mean, that's what's tetng osteo— messages? i mean, that's what's being asked for— messages? i mean, that's what's being asked for here, that being asked for here, is that a tott— being asked for here, is that a ton-ant— being asked for here, is that a tall-and-thinkl tall order? and do you think tnot— tall order? and do you think tnot ts— tall order? and do you think that is dangerous precedent? that is a dangerous precedent? nnot-s— that is a dangerous precedent? tnot-s exootn— that is a dangerous precedent? that's exactly-the- that's exactly what the government worried about. government are worried about. they're worried that if they are allowed for this, that allowed to do it for this, that it that all it means in future that all messages and all diaries could be handed you know, be handed over. and, you know, there's all sorts in there's going to be all sorts in there. there's going to be some very i'm sure. there. there's going to be some very you i'm sure. there. there's going to be some very you know, i'm sure. there. there's going to be some very you know, i'm m sure. there. there's going to be some very you know, i'm beingz. but, you know, i'm being slightly facetious, but who knows? boris johnson could have rishi ask, what did he rishi sunak can ask, what did he think about on tv last think about what was on tv last night? completely night? it's completely irrelevant, thing. night? it's completely irreltthat's thing. night? it's completely irreltthat's the thing. night? it's completely irreltthat's the kind thing. night? it's completely irreltthat's the kind of thing. night? it's completely irreltthat's the kind of stuffi. and that's the kind of stuff that government doesn't want that the government doesn't want to have to go into the public domain. sees as domain. it just sees as completely the remit of completely outside the remit of this covid inquiry. i this covid inquiry. and i suppose, cabinet suppose, dan, both the cabinet office you like, team office and if you like, team bods office and if you like, team boris very concerned boris will be very concerned about this tittle tattle being dragged in. and there's second dragged in. and there's a second essoge— dragged in. and there's a second nessoge—tnot- dragged in. and there's a second message _that is- message as well, and that is nons— message as well, and that is nonts t— message as well, and that is boris, i think— message as well, and that is boris, i think would like to teen—ontnotel boris, i think would like to keep—private to| boris, i think would like to- keep_private to sell keep his diaries private to sell tnen. — keep his diaries private to sell tnen. t— keep his diaries private to sell tnen. t neon— keep his diaries private to sell them. i mean, you'd he'd them. i mean, you'd think he'd try them. i mean, you'd think he'd tn-testsetten- them. i mean, you'd think he'd try-bestseller out. them. i mean, you'd think he'd try bestseller out of try and get a bestseller out of t. — try and get a bestseller out of it. absolutely.— try and get a bestseller out of it. absolutely. i— try and get a bestseller out of it. absolutely. i mean,- try and get a bestseller out of it. absolutely. i mean, boris johnson is known for enjoying writing. know he's

writing. we know that he's written books the and written books in the past. and there's that these there's no doubt that these diaries in the hope diaries were kept in the hope that he can one day make them public. only would public. the only thing i would say the defence of baroness say in the defence of baroness hallett the covid is hallett and the covid inquiry is that been information that there have been information which tried get out which they've tried to get out of the government they've of the government that they've only got. so for only recently got. so for example, the information about what saying what the government was saying and what ministers were saying to around and when it to each other around and when it came the sarah everard and came to the sarah everard and around response around the police response to that, the government originally withheld wasn't withheld that and said it wasn't relevant said it relevant and the inquiry said it was much relevant to what was very much relevant to what happened with the public and the was very much relevant to what hapjpeople'ith the public and the was very much relevant to what hapjpeople responded.lic and the way people responded. and they've only very recently got that. say, hold on, we that. so they say, hold on, we can't that. so they say, hold on, we cant you that. so they say, hold on, we can't you to make can't trust you to make a decision as to relevant decision as to what's relevant because we're having to fight decision as to what's relevant becteveryie're having to fight decision as to what's relevant bectevery step having to fight decision as to what's relevant bectevery step of/ing to fight decision as to what's relevant bectevery step of/ing way ght decision as to what's relevant bectevery step of/ing way here. you every step of the way here. we need make that decision as we need to make that decision as to what's relevant to our inquiry. and that's entirely tnen— inquiry. and that's entirely tnetn—tnot- their point, right? that ministers— their point, right? that- ministers—given ministers shouldn't be given a onotoe— ministers shouldn't be given a onotoe-to— ministers shouldn't be given a choice _to _over.i choice of what to hand over. tnot-s— choice of what to hand over. that's that's— choice of what to hand over. that's that's up— choice of what to hand over. that's that's up to their discretion.— that's that's up to their discretion. whilst we have that's that's up to their disc on on. whilst we have that's that's up to their- discon to .whilst we have that's that's up to their discon to ask whilst we have that's that's up to their discon to ask youilst we have that's that's up to their discon to ask you about have that's that's up to their discon to ask you about another you on to ask you about another big you on to ask you about another ttg ston— you on to ask you about another ttg ston toon— you on to ask you about another ttg ston toton on— you on to ask you about another big story today on the front page— big story today on the front ooge ot— big story today on the front ooge ot tne— big story today on the front page of the guardian, which is totonn-s— page of the guardian, which is totonn-s-to— page of the guardian, which is labour's to councils labour's plans to let councils buy— labour's plans to let councils tnn-oneonn— labour's plans to let councils tnn-oneonn tn- labour's plans to let councils buy cheaply in order to buy land cheaply in order to none— buy land cheaply in order to tackle _crisis. i buy land cheaply in order toi tackle _crisis. tell

tackle the housing crisis. tell us tackle the housing crisis. tell ns o ttt— tackle the housing crisis. tell ns o ttt none— tackle the housing crisis. tell us a bit more about this. “tilt? us a bit more about this. yes, so tnene-s— us a bit more about this. yes, so there's such— us a bit more about this. yes, so there's such a— us a bit more about this. yes, so there's such a thing. it's called that's called hope value and that's when you've got what the property land is currently property the land is currently worth. then what think worth. but then what you think it be worth if you were to it will be worth if you were to put properties top of it. and put properties on top of it. and what labour's proposal to let what labour's proposal is to let local purchase local councils purchase this land without having to put on top that so—called hope value and it hopes that this will help free land for much free up much more land for much more has more housebuilding. this has to be that parties are be said that both parties are looking at ways to try to help improve getting more people on the ladder. the the property ladder. the conservatives about conservatives are talking about making it easier for people to get mortgages helping that. get mortgages helping with that. but look, but labour are saying, look, unless improve supply, unless you improve supply, you're going there you're never going to get there in the first but we have in the first place. but we have heard this before. we've heard all this before. we've heard all this before. we've heard from labour and heard policies from labour and from about how from the conservatives about how they're to help improve they're going to help improve they're going to help improve the number we've the number of houses. we've heard targets. khan, the heard targets. sadiq khan, the london mayor, load london mayor, given a load of targets for london and nationally, conservative nationally, the conservative government of government set a target of 300,000 a year, which was 300,000 homes a year, which was a and it's now 300,000 homes a year, which was a kind and it's now 300,000 homes a year, which was a kind of and it's now 300,000 homes a year, which was a kind of loweredtnd it's now 300,000 homes a year, which was a kind of lowered down; now 300,000 homes a year, which was a kind of lowered down to ow 300,000 homes a year, which was a kind of lowered down to an been kind of lowered down to an aspiration. so when you a aspiration. so when you hear a policy housebuilding, that policy on housebuilding, that has bit of a pinch of has to be a bit of a pinch of salt with it, it may sound good

in principle, but will anyone actually it? it's an actually deliver on it? it's an astonishing state _ actually deliver on it? it's an astonishing state of- f :tic c?’ it's an astonishing state of affairs, dant— astonishing state of affairs, non tnot— astonishing state of affairs, to... tnot, non— astonishing state of affairs, dan, that, you know, 20% of tory tonons—nnonenni donors, £60 million are property tenetonens— developers and yet they face ttnnttsn — developers and yet they face nimbyism tories. and nimbyism from the tories. and now-come labour- nimbyism from the tories. and now come labour with sort now here come labour with a sort of now here come labour with a sort ot sootottst— now here come labour with a sort of socialist style— now here come labour with a sort of socialist style land buying sonee— of socialist style land buying sonee .— of socialist style land buying sonee . ane— of socialist style land buying scheme . are the— of socialist style land buying scheme . are the labour party scheme. are the labour party teoontng— scheme. are the labour party teoontng tne— scheme. are the labour party becoming the party of housebuilding? �*ct�*tz;cc c housebuilding? well, it's amazing. it's something. amazing. it's quite something. is it because, you know, it was margaret thatcher out margaret thatcher who set out that wanted every that they wanted every every person own person should be able to own their own home and now it seems to be a mantra that that labour have have pinched from them. dan very much dan obe, thank you very much for totntng— dan obe, thank you very much for totntng-nonntng.- joining us this morning. anneotote— joining us this morning. appreciate now time joining us this morning.- appreciate.now-time is appreciate it. now the time is ttt. — appreciate it. now the time is ttt. _tnng— appreciate it. now the time is ttt. _tntngnon- appreciate it. now the time is 7:17. .bring you up- appreciate it. now the time is 7:17. .bring you up to. appreciate it. now the time is. 7:17. .bring you up to date 7:17. let's bring you up to date with the of today's top with the rest of today's top stories. and the government says it will prevent vape ads from targeting young people. ministers they will stop ministers say they will stop netottens— ministers say they will stop retailers allowing free retailers from allowing free sonntes— retailers from allowing free sonptes ot— retailers from allowing free samples of vapes to be given to ontnnen— samples of vapes to be given to ontttnen tn— samples of vapes to be given to children in england. there will otso— children in england. there will otso te— children in england. there will otso te o— children in england. there will also be a review— children in england. there will also be a review into banning netottens— also be a review into banning retailers selling— also be a review into banning retailers selling nicotine free nones— retailers selling nicotine free notes to— retailers selling nicotine free vapes to.under- retailers selling nicotine free vapes to under 18 year olds vapes to all under 18 year olds . tnssto— vapes to all under 18 year olds . ttnssto nos— vapes to all under 18 year olds . russia has attacked ukraine nttn— . russia has attacked ukraine nttn o— . russia has attacked ukraine nttn o tnno— . russia has attacked ukraine with a third air— . russia has attacked ukraine with a third air raid on kyiv in 24 with a third air raid on kyiv in 2a nonns —

with a third air raid on kyiv in 24 hours. the— with a third air raid on kyiv in 24 hours. {cit with a third air raid on kyiv in 24 hours. ” 24 hours. the capital's air defences repelled the drone strike, but one person was killed and four others were injured when their apartment building was hit by falling debns building was hit by falling debris and caught on fire. and hospitality businesses are pleading with the government to provide them with more support. pubs , bars and restaurants say pubs, bars and restaurants say tnen— pubs, bars and restaurants say tnetn oneoeg— pubs, bars and restaurants say their average bills have increased— their average bills have increased by— their average bills have increased by .- their average bills have increased by . a staggering 81% increased by. a staggering 81% nett— increased by. a staggering 81% wet nee— increased by. a staggering 81% well, we've all— increased by. a staggering 81% well, we've all been tightening our well, we've all been tightening tetts— well, we've all been tightening our belts recently— well, we've all been tightening our belts recently as prices and nongoge— our belts recently as prices and mortgage payments rise and this nontn-s— mortgage payments rise and this nontn-s snoo— mortgage payments rise and this month's shop price— mortgage payments rise and this month's shop price index shows netott— month's shop price index shows retail inflation— month's shop price index shows retail inflation is— month's shop price index shows retail inflation is at a new ntgn— retail inflation is at a new ntgn ot— retail inflation is at a new ntgn on 9. — retail inflation is at a new high of 9. but- retail inflation is at a new high of 9. : high of 9. but despite interest rates rising, new research shows many high street banks are not passing on returns to savers, with some customers being shortchanged by hundreds of pounds. well, head of financial ononsts— pounds. well, head of financial ononsts ot— pounds. well, head of financial ononsts ot aj— pounds. well, head of financial analysis at aj bell— pounds. well, head of financial

analysis at aj bell ,_ w:~;: well, head of financial analysis at aj bell, danni nenson— analysis at aj bell, danni hewson joins— analysis at aj bell, danni hewson joins us now. so danny, tett— hewson joins us now. so danny, tett ns— hewson joins us now. so danny, tett ns ooont— hewson joins us now. so danny, tell us about how— hewson joins us now. so danny, tell us about how once again savers are being— tell us about how once again savers are being shafted . t/tzic w savers are being shafted. yeah, tnos— savers are being shafted. yeah, twas ever thus, _ savers are being shafted. yeah, twas ever thus, i'm— savers are being shafted. yeah, twas ever thus, i'm afraid. we obviously have seen interest rates steadily increasing over the last year or so , up to 4.5. the last year or so, up to 4.5. but if you have a regular account , you're probably getting account, you're probably getting very , very little. in fact, in very, very little. in fact, in some cases around 0.1. so making no money on your money whatsoever, if you shop around and this is what this latest survey by the consumer group which has found you can find much better deals , particularly much better deals, particularly if you are prepared to lock your money away for 1 to 5 years. thenin money away for 1 to 5 years. then in some cases, i think first directors launching a one year fix rate savings account with a rate of 4.60, but that is only if you have an account with them . a lot of these banks that them. a lot of these banks that are offering the better deals

aren't the high street names that we all know and love. these days are the challenger banks. these are some of the banks that you might not have heard of. but it is really worth taking a look around shopping around, deciding where you can get the most for your money. yeah, really, really good— your money. yeah, really, really good otntoe— your money. yeah, really, really good advice there,— ” ”wig yeah, really, really good advice there, danny. onenott— good advice there, danny. overall inflation in shops rose , nttn-t— overall inflation in shops rose , tttn-t tte— overall inflation in shops rose , didn't it? 9%_ overall inflation in shops rose , didn't it? 9% between april ont— , didn't it? 9% between april ont non— , didn't it? 9% between april ont non tnot— , didn't it? 9% between april and may that is— , didn't it? 9% between april and may that is an all time ntgn. — and may that is an all time ntgn. tt— and may that is an all time ntgn. tt ts— and may that is an all time high. it is an— and may that is an all time high. it is an all- and may that is an all time high. c c w gw high. it is an all time high. and i'm one of these people that shops around, so i must admit i was standing in an awful lot of supermarket shopping queues over the weekend and at every single till point, no matter which shop it was, whether it was a discounter or something more high end, everybody was talking about food price inflation. every body was complaining about the fact that the amount that they were paying this week was more than they were paying last week. now, there is a tiny glimmer of hope in these figures from the british retail

consortium because although over all the price at shops has gone up to a record high, fresh food pnces up to a record high, fresh food prices have started to come down. in. on the flip side, ambient food prices. so things like coffee, chocolate, the things that you get on those shelves that don't have to be refrigerated, those prices have gone up once again . and so gone up once again. and so clearly there is a bit of a split here. we know we keep heanng split here. we know we keep hearing that commodity prices are coming down and we should start to see that soon in the pnces start to see that soon in the prices that we are paying at supermarkets. but there is also a lag. you have to remember that 12 months ago, if farmers were paying 12 months ago, if farmers were paying for fertiliser at record prices, then that's the stuff that you are paying for at the moment . so yeah, it is a real moment. so yeah, it is a real mixed picture. clearly still an awful lot more pain to come for consumers and hopefully a glimmer of hope at the end. danny houston, really, really good— danny houston, really, really good to— danny houston, really, really goot to tott— danny houston, really, really good to talk to— danny houston, really, really good to talk to you this nonntng. — good to talk to you this morning. thank you very much. not— morning. thank you very much. not tnons— morning. thank you very much. not tnons ne— morning. thank you very much. god knows we all— morning. thank you very much. god knows we all need a bit of

none— god knows we all need a bit of tone on— god knows we all need a bit of we on on— god knows we all need a bit of hope on our bills— god knows we all need a bit of hope on our bills at the moment onnnon. — hope on our bills at the moment onnnon. ston— hope on our bills at the moment anyway. stay with— hope on our bills at the moment anyway. stay with us- hope on our bills at the moment anyway. ct; f anyway. stay with us because we'll be asking if police are right attending right to stop attending mental health. if they're health. call outs or if they're putting lives at risk. that's next. stay with us on .

gb news. good morning. welcome back. the ttne— good morning. welcome back. the ttne ts— good morning. welcome back. the ttne ts no.— good morning. welcome back. the time is 725. still— good morning. welcome back. the time is 725. still lots— good morning. welcome back. the time is 725. still lots to— c: th welcome back. the time is 725. still lots to come on toton-s— time is 725. still lots to come on today's program . / cc on today's program. yeah, we'll tntng— on today's program. yeah, we'll bring you the story of one of the last windmills built in england that's been lovingly restored to its former glory by dedicated volunteers was in the middle of a london borough of all places. and at 845, we'll be speaking to a pub landlord about how the excessive cost of energy and food is crippling the hospitality industry . yeah, and hospitality industry. yeah, and that's one that's really got us going this morning because you know, pub landlords, god bless them, vital to nation. they've had a terrible, terrible time since pandemic. now had a terrible, terrible time since pandemic . now they're since the pandemic. now they're getting utility getting squeezed on utility costs that on to costs and the pattern that on to customers we to save customers and we need to save the british pub you can the great british pub you can get in touch with us on that or any of our topics this morning by emailing gb views at gb news .com or of course, course. .com or of course, of course. tweet at gb news. lots of you tweet us at gb news. lots of you are doing tweet us at gb news. lots of you totng inst— tweet us at gb news. lots of you are doing just that. _ ct; clo \n lots of you are doing just that. francesca sons.— are doing just that. francesca sons. tts— are doing just that. francesca says. it's always— are doing just that. francesca says. it's always been cheaper to ontnn— says. it's always been cheaper to on ot— says. it's always been cheaper to drink at home,— says. it's always been cheaper to drink at home, so have one at none— to drink at home, so have one at none ont— to drink at home, so have one at none ont one— to drink at home, so have one at

home and one in— to drink at home, so have one at home and one in the pub to sootottse— home and one in the pub to socialise. duh,— home and one in the pub to socialise. duh, she says. w socialise. duh, she says. colin in nottingham, my home city, a sad news both our local pubs have been knocked down. they used hub for the elderly used to be a hub for the elderly to meet up and socialise and we'll talk about that. pubs are more than just a place to get a been more than just a place to get a beer. it's not the same as drinking home. the old boys drinking at home. the old boys meet, chat, they keep each meet, they chat, they keep each other company, they stay warm. some are so, important. some pubs are so, so important. andy says people don't realise tnot— andy says people don't realise tnot-nnt— andy says people don't realise that pub landlords are self that most pub landlords are self enptonet. — that most pub landlords are self employed- att— that most pub landlords are self employed. all overheads come out of employed. all overheads come out ot nnot-s— employed. all overheads come out ot nnot-s tetng— employed. all overheads come out of what's being sold— employed. all overheads come out of what's being sold over the non— of what's being sold over the ton tenonon— of what's being sold over the bar tenancy agreements are sky ntgn. — bar tenancy agreements are sky ntgn. tne— bar tenancy agreements are sky ntgn. tne onoe— bar tenancy agreements are sky high. the price of— bar tenancy agreements are sky high. the price of beer goes up tntoe— high. the price of beer goes up tntoe o— high. the price of beer goes up tntoe o neon— high. the price of beer goes up twice a year and— high. the price of beer goes up twice a year and if— high. the price of beer goes up twice a year and if you don't do toot— twice a year and if you don't do toot non— twice a year and if you don't do toot non oe— twice a year and if you don't do food you are likely— twice a year and if you don't do food you are likely to go under . tne— food you are likely to go under . tne nnts— food you are likely to go under . tne onts oe— food you are likely to go under . the pubs are no— food you are likely to go under . the pubs are no longer pubs, tnen-ne—settl they're restaurants that sell teen.— they're restaurants that sell teen- — they're restaurants that sell teen- ant— they're restaurants that sell been. and joe- they're restaurants that sell beer. ' th they're restaurants that sell- beer.- and joe adding one beer. yeah and joe adding one final point. it's not just beer. we asked about britain's priciest pints. we had one at nine and a half quid. you've made my 99, 90 made my made my eyes. 99, 90 made my eyes. water joe says. my wife and i recently visited a local pub soft drinks only as we were driving and a straight pint of coke and a pint of lime cordial with ice or lemon. that's an

with no ice or lemon. that's an important point. guess how much fiver? £9. £9 for two pints of soft drinks. suffice to say, joe said they only had one. can't blame you, mate. yeah well, keep those views coming in on on the pub story or anything that we're discussing morning. gb discussing this morning. gb views at gb news .com . and now views at gb news .com. and now to on— views at gb news .com. and now to our debates. views at gb news .com. and now to our debates . the metropolitan to our debates. the metropolitan police has announced it will stop attending mental health calls unless there is an immediate threat to life. yes, the commissioner of c yes, the commissioner of britain's tongest— the commissioner of britain's tongest nottoe— the commissioner of britain's largest police force says the move is an attempt to free up resources, with— move is an attempt to free up resources, with officers often tetng— resources, with officers often being diverted— resources, with officers often being diverted from fighting onne— being diverted from fighting . ont— being diverted from fighting crime. but the— being diverted from fighting crime . but the president of the crime. but the president of the tnot— crime. but the president of the ttonot oottege— crime. but the president of the royal college of— crime. but the president of the royal college of psychical tnsts— royal college of psychical tnsts sons— royal college of psychical trysts says there's now not enongn— trysts says there's now not enongn ttne— trysts says there's now not enough time to— trysts says there's now not enough time to put a new system in enough time to put a new system tn ntooe— enough time to put a new system tn ntooe . — enough time to put a new system tn ntooe . tes.— enough time to put a new system in place . yes, but— enough time to put a new system in place . yes, but is— enough time to put a new system in place . yes, but is it- enough time to put a new system in place. “tit: enough time to put a new system in place . “tit: c c. in place. yes, but is it up to the police to respond to the mental health incidents or not? well, joining us now is ivana poku , a postnatal depression poku, a postnatal depression survivor , and she says this

survivor, and she says this change will add to the stigma around mental health. and it's up to the police to respond. well, meanwhile, uk policing expen— well, meanwhile, uk policing ennen ont— well, meanwhile, uk policing expert and former police officer ottnen— expert and former police officer oliver lawrence— expert and former police officer oliver lawrence says this new nonon— oliver lawrence says this new oonon nttt— oliver lawrence says this new policy will save— oliver lawrence says this new policy will save lives . so good policy will save lives. so good nonntng— policy will save lives. so good nonntng to— policy will save lives. so good morning to both— policy will save lives. so good morning to both of you. really neotn— morning to both of you. really neotn goon— morning to both of you. really neotn goot to— morning to both of you. really really good to have you with us. nono— really good to have you with us. tnono tets— really good to have you with us. ivana, let's start— really good to have you with us. ivana, let's start with you, snott— ivana, let's start with you, snott nee— ivana, let's start with you, shall we? why— ivana, let's start with you, shall we? why do you think that nottoe— shall we? why do you think that oottoe snontt— shall we? why do you think that police should should be able to nontte— police should should be able to handle mental— police should should be able to handle mental health crises and nentot— handle mental health crises and mental health— handle mental health crises and mental health situations so as someone who survived post—natal tennesston— someone who survived post—natal tennesston ont— someone who survived post—natal depression and knows and understands— depression and knows and understands how it feels to be in understands how it feels to be tn tnot— understands how it feels to be in that position,— understands how it feels to be in that position, where you feel tnot— in that position, where you feel tnot non— in that position, where you feel tnot non tnon— in that position, where you feel that you know something is not ntgn— that you know something is not right, something— that you know something is not right, something can happen, tnen— right, something can happen, tnen tts— right, something can happen, tnen tt-s nen— right, something can happen, then it's very it's— right, something can happen, then it's very it's amazing to none— then it's very it's amazing to none tnot— then it's very it's amazing to have that option,— then it's very it's amazing to have that option, you know, teoonse— have that option, you know, because when _ have that option, you know, because when you're really stnnggttng— because when you're really struggling, you— because when you're really struggling, you don't have often the struggling, you don't have often tne ttne— struggling, you don't have often tne ttne to— struggling, you don't have often the time to think,— struggling, you don't have often the time to think, who should i oott— the time to think, who should i oott on— the time to think, who should i oott on nnot— the time to think, who should i call or what should i do? 'w: call or what should i do? and tne— call or what should i do? and the nnntn— call or what should i do? and the number 999,— call or what should i do? and the number 999, it's somehow it's engraved in our brains . and it's engraved in our brains. and when we call the police, we have

the reason for that. yeah. and sometimes you don't even know when the situation is severe that, you know, it's a life threatening some sometimes it's just hard to say. threatening some sometimes it's just hard to say . even for, just hard to say. even for, like, loved ones who are with you in the in the situation and they sometimes they can't estimate like how severe the situation is. so often there is not enough time to think , oh, is not enough time to think, oh, is this a mental health issue? is it not? is it life threatening? is it not? you just need to, you know, do something. you need to act and you know, like i said, like there is a reason why people call police in particular. okay and they feel they don't have they don't help. they do help. okay. let's put this to oliver lawrence now, oliver, data out yesterday . oliver, data out yesterday. there are 27,000 covid calls oliver, data out yesterday. - there are 27,000 covid calls per neon— there are 27,000 covid calls per neon to— there are 27,000 covid calls per neon to tne— there are 27,000 covid calls per year to the metropolitan police otone— year to the metropolitan police otone ton— year to the metropolitan police alone for mental— year to the metropolitan police alone for mental health issues. ant— alone for mental health issues. ant ot— alone for mental health issues. ant ot tne— alone for mental health issues. and at the same— alone for mental health issues. and at the same time, data

neteoset— and at the same time, data released yesterday, 30,000 nnsotnet— released yesterday, 30,000 unsolved muggings only 6% of tnngtontes— unsolved muggings only 6% of burglaries solved— unsolved muggings only 6% of burglaries solved . why is the burglaries solved. why is the nottoe— burglaries solved. why is the police service— burglaries solved. why is the police service a— burglaries solved. why is the police service a police service or police service a police service on ts— police service a police service on ts tt— police service a police service on ts tt no— police service a police service or is it now morphing into a sootot— or is it now morphing into a social service?— or is it now morphing into a social service? yeah, it's an tnonettttn— social service? yeah, it's an incredibly important announcement yesterday by sir nont— announcement yesterday by sir nont tonten— announcement yesterday by sir mark rowley, an— announcement yesterday by sir mark rowley, an incredibly bold teotston— mark rowley, an incredibly bold teotston ont— mark rowley, an incredibly bold decision and one— mark rowley, an incredibly bold decision and one that i'm in ton— decision and one that i'm in ton ot. — decision and one that i'm in favour of. and— decision and one that i'm in favour of. and i— decision and one that i'm in favour of. 'w: decision and one that i'm in favour of. ' w: w< decision and one that i'm in favour of. ' w: favour of. and i think a lot of the general public will be, you know, mental health issues are very complex in their know, mental health issues are policing in its very essence , policing in its very essence, isn't really trained or equipped to deal with the complexities of mental health issues , albeit mental health issues, albeit they are there for the life threatening deal threatening matters and to deal with those to bring those with those and to bring those incidents to sort of a incidents back to sort of a normal people to be normal arena for people to be able with a mental able to deal with in a mental health and care facility. but ultimate is ultimate ultimate policing is ultimate aim to fight crime and aim here is to fight crime and to support public. and that's what what we expect what our that's what we expect of police, is to be able to of our police, is to be able to respond those incidents of respond to those incidents of crime and not spend hours and hours hospitals looking hours inside hospitals looking after when they could after people when they could be on crime. on the streets fighting crime. well, put to well, ivana, let's put that to non.— well, ivana, let's put that to non—non- well, ivana, let's put that to non-non notneni well, ivana, let's put that to. you-you ratherlyou you. wouldn't you rather if you ootttng— you. wouldn't you rather if you were calling police in a were calling the police in a nentot— were calling the police in a mental health— were calling the police in a mental health crisis, wouldn't

you— mental health crisis, wouldn't non-notnen— mental health crisis, wouldn't non-notnen te- you actually rather be with someone equipped, who you actually rather be with- someone _equipped, who is someone who is equipped, who is tnotnete—tel someone who is equipped, who is to tne e—tel someone who is equipped, who is tra the phone _ be i someone who is equipped, who is tra the phone to _ be i someone who is equipped, who is tra the phone to someone be someone who is equipped, who is tra the phone to someone from the on the phone to someone from the neottn— on the phone to someone from the neottn senntoe— on the phone to someone from the health service on— on the phone to someone from the health service on the— on the phone to someone from the health service on the one hand, yes,— health service on the one hand, nes t— health service on the one hand, nes, t gee — health service on the one hand, nes, t gee tnt— health service on the one hand, yes, i agree. but like- health service on the one hand, yes, i agree. c : yes, i agree. but like you said at the beginning, there is not enough time or we are not prepared to, you know, be there yet where, you know, we can be confident to call and know who to call and trust that will be handled . so i think it's the handled. so i think it's the matter of time. if we need more time to prepare for this, because when we when the police with drones completely, then it's extremely dangerous , i it's extremely dangerous, i think. and it can cause more harm than good. yeah oliver, put in that harm than good. yeah oliver, put tn tnot toot— harm than good. yeah oliver, put in that back to— harm than good. yeah oliver, put in that back to you.— harm than good. yeah oliver, put in that back to you. the- cwcw 3: “cc w oliver, put in that back to you. the royal oottege— in that back to you. the royal oottege ot— in that back to you. the royal college of psychiatrists are sontng— college of psychiatrists are sontng tne— college of psychiatrists are saying the problem is putting a nosttton— saying the problem is putting a new position in— saying the problem is putting a new position in place where the nottoe— new position in place where the oottoe oent— new position in place where the police aren't required will take nnttt— police aren't required will take nnttt ot— police aren't required will take until at least— police aren't required will take until at least september. if tnen— until at least september. if tnen ston— until at least september. if they start today— until at least september. if they start today . and the they start today. and the tnnong— they start today. and the funding, the— they start today. and the funding, the allocation isn't tnene— funding, the allocation isn't tnene. t— funding, the allocation isn't there. i know— funding, the allocation isn't there. i know from some of the non— there. i know from some of the nont tne— there. i know from some of the nont tne-tn— there. i know from some of the work i've-in-past- there. i know from some of the work i've in past with work i've done in the past with tesnenote— work i've done in the past with desperate _who've - desperate fathers who've deliberately _ desperate fathers who've deliberately tried get deliberately tried to get themselves— deliberately tried to get themselves sectioned by

oonnttttng— themselves sectioned by committing crime because they committing a crime because they oon-t— committing a crime because they oon-t-nentot— committing a crime because they can't mental health help can't get the mental health help tnen— can't get the mental health help tnen neeo— can't get the mental health help they need. however, should it tott— they need. however, should it tott upon— they need. however, should it tott upon tne— they need. however, should it fall upon the police to step in, or fall upon the police to step in, on ts— fall upon the police to step in, on ts tnts— fall upon the police to step in, on ts tnts o— fall upon the police to step in, or is this a case— fall upon the police to step in, or is this a case of— fall upon the police to step in, or is this a case of the government- or is this a case of the government and ministers just nottnnttng— government and ministers just not funding mental health where it's not funding mental health where tt-s negntnet— not funding mental health where it's required to— not funding mental health where it's required to allow the nottoe—t- it's required to allow thei police—i think it's required to allow the- police—i think this police to police? i think this is a discussion that we've been having years now. you having for many years now. you know, the lack of investment in social services and mental social care services and mental health has health services, policing has tragically fix tragically been a band aid fix for a lot of these issues over many, many years because, you know, numbers. know, we're there in numbers. we're able to support in in a variety different variety of different settings, but fundamental but equally fundamental a decision. there's time decision. there's no good time for by putting in for this. and by putting in applying pressure and applying this pressure and giving allows other giving a date allows other government to plan government departments to plan and put things in place to be able to support people with really issues which able to support people with really aren't issues which able to support people with really aren't capable,jes which able to support people with really aren't capable, aren't ich police aren't capable, aren't able to deal in sort of the able to deal with in sort of the depths people need depths that people really need and expect to be supported . i and expect to be supported. i mean, of honour, that will be non— mean, of honour, that will be your concern, won't it? i mean, non— your concern, won't it? i mean, non tott— your concern, won't it? i mean, non tott ooont— your concern, won't it? i mean, you talk about your own battle nttn — you talk about your own battle with post—natal— you talk about your own battle with post—natal depression and otstet— with post—natal depression and onstet nnen— with post—natal depression and ofsted when you— with post—natal depression and ofsted when you have those very, nen— ofsted when you have those very, nen oont— ofsted when you have those very, very dark thoughts— ofsted when you have those very, very dark thoughts .— ofsted when you have those very, very dark thoughts . time is of very dark thoughts. time is of the very dark thoughts. time is of tne essenoe— very dark thoughts. time is of

the essence, isn't— very dark thoughts. time is of the essence, isn't so your the essence, isn't it? so your concern - be that - the essence, isn't it? so your concern-be that if- the essence, isn't it? so your concern be that if mental concern would be that if mental neottn— concern would be that if mental neottn-onen-t— concern would be that if mental health aren't funded health providers aren't funded nett— health providers aren't funded nett enongn— health providers aren't funded well enough, they might not be otte— well enough, they might not be otte to— well enough, they might not be able to respond— well enough, they might not be able to respond at— well enough, they might not be able to respond at the speed nnton— able to respond at the speed nnton ts— able to respond at the speed which is required ? tooctzccg which is required? exactly. absolutely yeah. at the moment, even when the police says we can't help the people, you know, we don't we can't give adequate support . but i don't agree with support. but i don't agree with that because sometimes the people just need to know they have someone, you know, to call and to, you know , speak to so and to, you know, speak to so that sometimes that's all they need. and so maybe it's the attitude as well. sorry to be born, oliver punensis to use. you're a former copper , so you're a former copper, so non-ne— you're a former copper, so you've seen the- you're a former copper, so you've seen the role of the nottoe— you've seen the role of the police officer— you've seen the role of the police officer change immensely tnon— police officer change immensely tnon one— police officer change immensely tnon ot— police officer change immensely from one of enforcing crime to oottng— from one of enforcing crime to oottng os— from one of enforcing crime to oottng os o— from one of enforcing crime to now acting as a de facto social senne,— now acting as a de facto social senntoe, not— now acting as a de facto social senntoe, not tnst— now acting as a de facto social service, not just in— now acting as a de facto social service, not just in mental neottn— service, not just in mental neottn tnt— service, not just in mental health, but also- service, not just in mental health, but also missing persons. what's the attitude of nottoe— persons. what's the attitude of police towards— persons. what's the attitude of police towards this? because tnen-ne— police towards this? because tnen-ne otten— police towards this? because they're often criticised for spenttng— they're often criticised for spenttng too— they're often criticised for spending too much time behind tests— spending too much time behind tests-sontng— spending too much time behind desks, solving muggings, not desks, not solving muggings, not sontng— desks, not solving muggings, not solving robberies,— desks, not solving muggings, not solving robberies, all the nottoe— solving robberies, all the pottoetnst— solving robberies, all the police just wanted to get back to tostos— police just wanted to get back to basics and— police just wanted to get back to basics and be— police just wanted to get back to basics and be bobbies on the neot— to basics and be bobbies on the teot ogotn. — to basics and be bobbies on the teot ogotn. t—

to basics and be bobbies on the beat again. ithink— to basics and be bobbies on the beat again. i think the most important point is police officers very officers are very caring individuals and they will never walk somebody who's clearly walk past somebody who's clearly in needs their in distress and needs their support. fundamentally, that's that's of that's that's the makeup of a police really police officer really supporting. equally they supporting. but equally they join because they want to make a difference. they join because they want to find bad people they do want to find bad people wanting do us harm, wanting to do us harm, committing crime. and in essence, a public, that's committing crime. and in esserwe a public, that's committing crime. and in esserwe expectjblic, that's committing crime. and in esserwe expectjblthem.t's committing crime. and in esserwe expectjblthem. we don't what we expect of them. we don't expect police officers to be expect our police officers to be sitting in hospitals for hours upon outside. sitting in hospitals for hours upon people outside. sitting in hospitals for hours upon people dialling e. sitting in hospitals for hours upon people dialling 999 there are people dialling 999 wanting to police wanting to speak to police because they've become the victim crime. we expect victim of a crime. we expect them to respond in a timely manner, investigate offences that people have victims that people have become victims to those to and ultimately hold those accountable. well, and whilst spending sitting spending hours and hours sitting inside on sale inside hospitals or on sale watches is taking them away from really what we expect of core policing duties, whereas bannau you that this is just you would say that this is just as important work as fighting crime ? yeah, absolutely. maybe crime? yeah, absolutely. maybe the solution would be i know it's easier said than done, but maybe changing the structure or, you know, like the manager meant on the other side of the, you

know, like the police force, so to speak. so maybe the management or to allocation of the sources and stuff like that. i know it's not easy, of course, but this could be a way forward . okay. ivana poku and oliver okay. ivana poku and oliver lawrence, an excellent debate . i lawrence, an excellent debate. i tntnt— lawrence, an excellent debate. i tntnt ne— lawrence, an excellent debate. i think we covered _ lawrence, an excellent debate. i think we covered all topics off tnene— think we covered all topics off tnene. tnont— think we covered all topics off there. thank you— think we covered all topics off there. thank you for joining think we covered all topics off there. thank you forjoining us there. thank you for joining us tnts— there. thank you for joining us tnts nonntng.— there. thank you for joining us this morning. much appreciated. tnont— this morning. much appreciated. ttont non.— this morning. much appreciated. tnont non. ton.— this morning. much appreciated. thank you. now, stay— this morning. much appreciated. thank you. now, stay with- this morning. much appreciated. thank you. now, stay with us. as ministers plan to ban retailers in from giving children in england from giving children free vapes and of course, we'll also be going through the papers with scarlett mccgwire and fraser myers. that's right after tns— fraser myers. that's right after tnts. ston— fraser myers. that's right after this. stick with— fraser myers. that's right after this. stick with us. _ fraser myers. that's right after this. stick with us. gb - mantis that's right after this. stick with us. gb news. tne— this. stick with us. gb news. tne neonte-s— this. stick with us. gb news. tne neonte-s .—

channel good morning. welcome back. the time is joining us time is 740. and joining us go through the papers morning through the papers this morning is spite, is deputy editor of spite, fraser myers and the former labour adviser scarlett maguire. really, really good to see you both with scarlett. start both with scarlett. let's start with story that we were just with the story that we were just debating. actually it is a really complex one, isn't it? it's over the met who it's this alarm over the met who are vowing to quit mental health role. yeah i mean, i actually tntnt— role. yeah i mean, i actually tntnt tne— role. yeah i mean, i actually think the met— role. yeah i mean, i actually think the met are— t/tzic w i mean, i actually think the met are completely ntgnt— think the met are completely ntgnt on— think the met are completely ntgnt on tnts— think the met are completely right on this is— think the met are completely right on this is that they oonnot— right on this is that they oonnot te— right on this is that they cannot be a— right on this is that they cannot be a sticking plaster for sootetn— cannot be a sticking plaster for sootetn tnt— cannot be a sticking plaster for society but but— cannot be a sticking plaster for society but but what is so tennttte— society but but what is so terrible al— society but but what is so terrible al is— society but but what is so terrible al is we've had

government— terrible al is we've had government announcement after gonennnent— government announcement after government announcement after government announcement saying gotng— government announcement saying gotng to— government announcement saying gotng to tote— government announcement saying we're going to take mental neottn— we're going to take mental health seriously. we understand it's absolutely— health seriously. we understand it's absolutely a— health seriously. we understand it's absolutely a serious as nnnstoot— it's absolutely a serious as physical health— it's absolutely a serious as physical health and nothing nonsens— physical health and nothing nonnens. ant,— physical health and nothing happens. and, you know, in the nneontnnet— happens. and, you know, in the meantime, there— happens. and, you know, in the meantime, there are these people are meantime, there are these people tttenottn— meantime, there are these people are literally crying— meantime, there are these people are literally crying out for neto— are literally crying out for help nno— are literally crying out for help who desperately need it. ant— help who desperately need it. ant nnot— help who desperately need it. ant nnot to— help who desperately need it. and what do you— help who desperately need it. and what do you do ? and i mean, and what do you do? and i mean, i and what do you do? and i mean, t nos— and what do you do? and i mean, t ont— and what do you do? and i mean, t ont nttn— and what do you do? and i mean, i was out with a— and what do you do? and i mean, i was out with a friend of mine tost— i was out with a friend of mine tost ntgnt— i was out with a friend of mine last night whose _ i was out with a friend of mine last night whose son has been seottonet,— last night whose son has been sectioned, and— last night whose son has been sectioned, and i— last night whose son has been sectioned, and i said, so what? nnot— sectioned, and i said, so what? nnot nonto— sectioned, and i said, so what? what would you— sectioned, and i said, so what? what would you do if you had to ntng— what would you do if you had to ntng ogotne— what would you do if you had to ntng ogotne ant— what would you do if you had to ring again? and he— what would you do if you had to ring again? and he went, i don't tnon— ring again? and he went, i don't tnonlsnnnose— ring again? and he went, i don't know.isuppose.ring- ring again? and he went, i don't know. suppose ring 999 and know. i suppose i'd ring 999 and sonetntng— know. i suppose i'd ring 999 and something would— know. i suppose i'd ring 999 and something would happen. and it is something would happen. and it ts tennttte— something would happen. and it is terrible. and— something would happen. and it is terrible. and i'm— something would happen. and it is terrible. and i'm on the ooont— is terrible. and i'm on the toont ot— is terrible. and i'm on the toont ot o— is terrible. and i'm on the board of a tiny— is terrible. and i'm on the board of a tiny little north tonton— board of a tiny little north london charity— board of a tiny little north london charity called open door for london charity called open door ton nonng— london charity called open door ton nonng neonte— london charity called open door for young people with mental neottn— for young people with mental health problems. there's a four nontn— health problems. there's a four nontn notttng— health problems. there's a four month waiting list you know, and tetten— month waiting list you know, and we're better than— month waiting list you know, and we're better than the nhs, ntgnte— we're better than the nhs, ntgnte t— we're better than the nhs, right? i mean,— we're better than the nhs, right? i mean, we're a charity. oon— right? i mean, we're a charity. oon t— right? i mean, we're a charity. oon t gntottn— right? i mean, we're a charity. can i quickly say— right? i mean, we're a charity. can i quickly say not a private. tte-ne— can i quickly say not a private. tte-ne tetten— can i quickly say not a private. we're better. that's what's so tenttte. — we're better. that's what's so terrible. and _ we're better. that's what's so terrible. and i— we're better. that's what's so terrible. and i keep on going at ooont— terrible. and i keep on going at board meetings,— terrible. and i keep on going at board meetings, but for months, you board meetings, but for months, non tnon— board meetings, but for months, non tnon, tt— board meetings, but for months, you know, if you're— board meetings, but for months, you know, if you're 17, 18 is forever. and _ you know, if you're 17, 18 is forever. and what happens when none— forever. and what happens when none tn— forever. and what happens when none tn ontsts— forever. and what happens when you're in crisis .— forever. and what happens when you're in crisis . so— forever. and what happens when you're in crisis . so yes, i

you're in crisis. so yes, i tntnt— you're in crisis. so yes, i tntnt t— you're in crisis. so yes, i think i mean,- you're in crisis. so yes, i think i mean, i- you're in crisis. so yes, i think i mean, i think somebody not— think i mean, i think somebody not to— think i mean, i think somebody not to to— think i mean, i think somebody had to do something. and mark otntonstn— had to do something. and mark obviously decided— had to do something. and mark obviously decided to do sonetntng. — obviously decided to do something. and he's talked about it. something. and he's talked about t. nnt— something. and he's talked about t. on tnt— something. and he's talked about it. but but what— something. and he's talked about it. but but what are we going to none— it. but but what are we going to have instead?— it. but but what are we going to have instead? yeah. �*ct�*tzi;cc have instead? yeah. well, tnosen— have instead? yeah. well, tnosen tne— have instead? yeah. well, fraser, the reality is that we've now got 27,000 calls a year to the metropolitan police alone for mental health issues. meanwhile 30,000 unsolved muggings, 6% of burglaries get solved. the question is basic should the police be a social service or an emergency service? well, that's the thing. you ton-t— well, that's the thing. you ton-t nont— well, that's the thing. you don't want the _ well, that's the thing. you don't want the police to be tnnnet— don't want the police to be tnnnet tnto — don't want the police to be turned into social workers. you do turned into social workers. you to nont— turned into social workers. you to nont tnen— turned into social workers. you do want them out— turned into social workers. you do want them out on the streets . ton — do want them out on the streets . ton _tnen — do want them out on the streets . you them stopping crime . you want them stopping crime sontng— . you want them stopping crime sotntng ontnne— . you want them stopping crime solving crime, deterring crime, tnot— solving crime, deterring crime, tnot nnt— solving crime, deterring crime, tnot ttnt ot— solving crime, deterring crime, that kind of thing. and there is a that kind of thing. and there is o tnot— that kind of thing. and there is a sense that that— that kind of thing. and there is a sense that that is just not nonnentng. — a sense that that is just not happening. now, obviously, oeonte— happening. now, obviously, pebble-need— happening. now, obviously, people need help if they're people do need help if they're in people do need help if they're tn — people do need help if they're in crisis. there— people do need help if they're in crisis. there is— people do need help if they're in crisis. there is a suggestion nac— in crisis. there is a suggestion tnot, non— in crisis. there is a suggestion tnot, non tnon— in crisis. there is a suggestion that, you know, if— in crisis. there is a suggestion that, you know, if there's the nst— that, you know, if there's thei risk _escalation, risk of violence or escalation, tne— risk of violence or escalation, tne nottoe — risk of violence or escalation, the police - still - risk of violence or escalation, the police still intervene the police will still intervene .—tnot-s— the police will still intervene .—tnot-s tne- the police will still intervene ._that's the right. . and that's that's the right tntng— . and that's that's the right tntnglto— . and that's that's the right thing do because a social thing to do because a social nonent— thing to do because a social nonent oon-t— thing to do because a social worker can't actually stop a ntotent— worker can't actually stop a violent-either. - worker can't actually stop a violent either. you know, violent person either. you know, tnen-ne— violent person either. you know, tbey're.equibbed_ violent person either. you know, they're equipped to deal they're not equipped to deal nttn— they're not equipped to deal nttn-ant— they're not equipped to deal with _and who - they're not equipped to deal with and who do you call? with that. and who do you call? tnot-s— with that. and who do you call? tnot-s tnot-s— with that. and who do you call? that's that's the _ with that. and who do you call? that's that's the real question nene.— that's that's the real question nene. t—

that's that's the real question here. i wouldn't— that's that's the real question here. i wouldn't want to call a nononetto— here. i wouldn't want to call a paramedic either,— here. i wouldn't want to call a paramedic either, because that nonto— paramedic either, because that nontt te— paramedic either, because that would be that— paramedic either, because that would be that would feel like a nose— would be that would feel like a noste ot— would be that would feel like a waste of their— would be that would feel like a waste of their time to and these nnt— waste of their time to and these ttnt ot— waste of their time to and these kind of precious— waste of their time to and these kind of precious resource is so we kind of precious resource is so ne-tnst— kind of precious resource is so ne-tnst nonen-t- kind of precious resource is so we just haven't quite we don't we just haven't quite ttgnnet— we don't we just haven't quite ttgnnet ont— we don't we just haven't quite figured out how— we don't we just haven't quite figured out how we deal with nentot— figured out how we deal with nentot-on- figured out how we deal with mental-an issue.. figured out how we deal with. mental-an issue. yeah, mental health as an issue. yeah, tnene-s—otso- there's also there's also onotnen— there's also there's also onotnen-t- there's also there's also another i mean, there's also there's also another-i mean, role another thing. i mean, the role of another thing. i mean, the role ot nentot— another thing. i mean, the role of mental-the— another thing. i mean, the role of mental the definition of of mental or the definition of nentot— of mental or the definition of mental-expands- mental health expands continually.— mental health expands continually. that's another continually. and that's another nonn—nonges- continually. and that's another worry ranges from, worry because it ranges from, non— worry because it ranges from, non-tntngs— worry because it ranges from,| non-tntngs-nen you know, things that are very serious, things— you know, things that are very serious, things clearly serious, things that clearly neonne— serious, things that clearly require psychiatric treatment, nosstttn— require psychiatric treatment, possibly sectioning. and then tnene-s— possibly sectioning. and then there's,-know_ possibly sectioning. and then there's,-know ,- possibly sectioning. and then there's, know , times when there's, you know, times when neonte— there's, you know, times when neoote oe— there's, you know, times when neoote o— there's, you know, times when people are a bit— there's, you know, times when people are a bit sad, a bit anxious,lbit_ people are a bit sad, a bit anxious, bit depressed. and anxious, a bit depressed. and tn— anxious, a bit depressed. and tn-sontng— anxious, a bit depressed. and tn-sontng tne— anxious, a bit depressed. and i'm saying the police are i'm not saying the police are tetng— i'm not saying the police are tetng oottet— i'm not saying the police are being called on— i'm not saying the police are being called on those people, in.— being called on those people, tic-nnen,— being called on those people, but,-know,.what- being called on those people, but, know, what extent but, you know, to what extent are resources being diverted tnon—neontei from away from the people who neeo— from away from the people who neoo—tonneni from away from the people who. need—banner of need it most under the banner of nentot— need it most under the banner of mental health? _ need it most under the banner of mental health? i— need it most under the banner of mental health? w need it most under the banner of mental health? f mental health? i mean, scarlet, the royal college of psychiatrists has responded to this today, essentially saying that there isn't enough time now to a new in place to get a new system in place that we're talking about it ending of august. ending at the end of august. they're saying it's not possible to plug those gaps in that time. and concerned the and they're concerned about the risk what it risk to life, about what it means for the people. as you say, 17 year olds who are in

say, the 17 year olds who are in dire straits. and it's a four month wait, know, to get month wait, you know, to get help through a charity. yeah, it's difficult. no, no. it's very difficult. no, no. i mean it's very difficult. no, no. i neon-tntnt- it's very difficult. no, no. i mean-think it's. mean, i think i think it's neottn— mean, i think i think it's really terrible- mean, i think i think it's really terrible . i think for a really terrible. i think for a lot really terrible. i think for a tot ot— really terrible. i think for a tot ot neonte— really terrible. i think for a lot of people who are living nttn— lot of people who are living nttn ont— lot of people who are living nttn ont t— lot of people who are living with and i agree— lot of people who are living with and i agree with fraser, totttng— with and i agree with fraser, we're talking here about the series ones and— we're talking here about the series ones and i mean, a friend of series ones and i mean, a friend ot ne— series ones and i mean, a friend ot .— series ones and i mean, a friend ot , non— series ones and i mean, a friend of mine , you know,— series ones and i mean, a friend of mine , you know, her son in of mine, you know, her son in ms— of mine, you know, her son in nts ses— of mine, you know, her son in nts ses nttt— of mine, you know, her son in his 30s will come— of mine, you know, her son in his 30s will come into the her ont— his 30s will come into the her ont nen— his 30s will come into the her and her husband's bedroom at 4 ont— and her husband's bedroom at 4 ont go— and her husband's bedroom at 4 ont go non— and her husband's bedroom at 4 am. and go you are terrible nonents— a.m. and go you are terrible nonents, non— a.m. and go you are terrible parents, you are— am. and go you are terrible parents, you are awful. i mean, tnts— parents, you are awful. i mean, tnts ts— parents, you are awful. i mean, tnts ts nnot— parents, you are awful. i mean, this is what people living with nttn— this is what people living with nttn nttn— this is what people living with with, with people with serious nentot— with, with people with serious mental health _ with, with people with serious mental health problems have . mental health problems have. they— mental health problems have. tnen ton-t— mental health problems have. tnen ton-t ot— mental health problems have. they don't of course they don't oott— they don't of course they don't oott tne — they don't of course they don't call the police. _ they don't of course they don't call the police. i— they don't of course they don't call the police. i mean, by the ttne— call the police. i mean, by the ttne non— call the police. i mean, by the ttne non oott— call the police. i mean, by the time you call the— call the police. i mean, by the time you call the police, you're teettng— time you call the police, you're feeling absolutely— time you call the police, you're feeling absolutely desperate . feeling absolutely desperate. ant— feeling absolutely desperate. ant t— feeling absolutely desperate. and i presume— feeling absolutely desperate. and i presume that what the met are and i presume that what the met sontng— and i presume that what the met sontng ts— and i presume that what the met are saying is you've— and i presume that what the met are saying is you've got to sotne— are saying is you've got to sotne tns— are saying is you've got to solve this. i— are saying is you've got to solve this. i mean, i absolutely ognee— solve this. i mean, i absolutely ognee nttn— solve this. i mean, i absolutely agree with the— solve this. i mean, i absolutely agree with the royal college of nsnontotntsts— agree with the royal college of psychiatrists .— agree with the royal college of psychiatrists . that probably psychiatrists. that probably tsn-t— psychiatrists. that probably tsn-tenongn— psychiatrists. that probably isn't enough time. but on the otnen— isn't enough time. but on the otnen nont,— isn't enough time. but on the otnen nont, t— isn't enough time. but on the other hand, i presume these totts— other hand, i presume these totts none— other hand, i presume these talks have been— other hand, i presume these talks have been going on and on ont— talks have been going on and on ont on— talks have been going on and on ont ant— talks have been going on and on and on. and five,— talks have been going on and on and on. and five, finally, he onooteot— and on. and five, finally, he onootet. ne— and on. and five, finally, he cracked. he said— and on. and five, finally, he cracked. he said no , no more. cracked. he said no, no more. ton— cracked. he said no, no more. ton tnon— cracked. he said no, no more. ton tnon, ne— cracked. he said no, no more.

you know, we get— cracked. he said no, no more. you know, we get blamed for not totng— you know, we get blamed for not doing burglaries.— you know, we get blamed for not doing burglaries. we cannot we oonnot— doing burglaries. we cannot we oonnot to— doing burglaries. we cannot we cannot do this. _ doing burglaries. we cannot we cannot do this. and our people are cannot do this. and our people not— cannot do this. and our people are not trained— cannot do this. and our people are not trained .— cannot do this. and our people are not trained . and i mean, are not trained. and i mean, tnot-s— are not trained. and i mean, tnot-s tnot-s— are not trained. and i mean, that's that's the _ are not trained. and i mean, that's that's the other thing. ana— that's that's the other thing. ant, non— that's that's the other thing. and, you know,— that's that's the other thing. and, you know, we don't have enongn— and, you know, we don't have enough social— and, you know, we don't have enough social workers and we ton-t— enough social workers and we ton-t none— enough social workers and we don't have enough places to put pebble-— don't have enough places to put oeopte. ant— don't have enough places to put people. and this,— don't have enough places to put people. and this, you know, we ootnottn— people. and this, you know, we ootnottn tnts— people. and this, you know, we actually this is— people. and this, you know, we actually this is a— people. and this, you know, we actually this is a really serious problem that that all we do serious problem that that all we to ts— serious problem that that all we to ts tott— serious problem that that all we do is talk about. _ serious problem that that all we do is talk about. / th do is talk about. yeah. moving on to your next story now, fraser , front page of the fraser, front page of the express cost of living crisis. we're getting shafted on interest rates, on mortgages as when they go up, we're expected to pay more. but the express is saying we're getting ripped off again. this time . savers yeah , again. this time. savers yeah, you're again. this time. savers yeah, none tetng— again. this time. savers yeah, you're being shafted- d w w c savers yeah, you're being shafted from both ends— you're being shafted from both ends because— you're being shafted from both ends because you're feeling the sgneee— ends because you're feeling the sgneee tnon — ends because you're feeling the squeeze from your— ends because you're feeling the squeeze from your mortgage , squeeze from your mortgage, going— squeeze from your mortgage, gotng-nose- squeeze from your mortgage, going base interest going up with base interest notes— going up with base interest notes non— going up with base interest rates, you know, up at 4.5% now. nnt— rates, you know, up at 4.5% now. on oe— rates, you know, up at 4.5% now. on tne— rates, you know, up at 4.5% now. but are the interest— rates, you know, up at 4.5% now. but are the interest rates going up but are the interest rates going no ont— but are the interest rates going no ont nonn— but are the interest rates going up and your savings account? aosotntetn— up and your savings account? absolutely not. _ up and your savings account? absolutely not. i— up and your savings account? absolutely not. i mean, the eoness— absolutely not. i mean, the eoness nos— absolutely not. i mean, the express has highlighted some ntgn— express has highlighted some ntgn stneet— express has highlighted some high street savings accounts nnton— high street savings accounts nnton oe— high street savings accounts which are extraordinary virgin nonon— which are extraordinary virgin nonen enenton— which are extraordinary virgin money everyday saver is offering tntenest— money everyday saver is offering interest rates— money everyday saver is offering interest rates of— money everyday saver is offering interest rates of just 0.25.

non— interest rates of just 0.25. non oon— interest rates of just 0.25. non tnen— interest rates of just 0.25. how can they do- interest rates of just 0.25. how can they do that- interest rates of just 0.25. how can they do that when the base rate has gone through the roof? it's the same thing like when petrol, when petrol prices go up, they go straight away and they don't. they take a very tong— they don't. they take a very tong ttne— they don't. they take a very tong ttne to— they don't. they take a very long time to come- : w c they take a very long time to come down again. tts— long time to come down again. tt-s neon— long time to come down again. tt-s neon tts— long time to come down again. tt-s neon, tt-s o— long time to come down again. it's yeah, it's a similar thing. tntng— it's yeah, it's a similar thing. tntng ot— it's yeah, it's a similar thing. thing at work.— it's yeah, it's a similar thing. thing at work. you know, banks ton-t— thing at work. you know, banks nont—no— thing at work. you know, banks ton-t—no tnen- don't have to put up their sontngs— don't have to put up their sontngs-ont- don't have to put up their savings but it's, you savings rate, but it's, you tnon— savings rate, but it's, you know, tne— savings rate, but it's, you know, the interest rate is more of know, the interest rate is more ot-onoe.— know, the interest rate is more ot-onoe. ton- know, the interest rate is more of price. now what's of a guide price. now what's nnot-s— of a guide price. now what's what's interesting is that you of a guide price. now what's wha sortiteresting is that you of a guide price. now what's wha sort of resting is that you of a guide price. now what's wha sort of shopg is that you of a guide price. now what's wha sort of shop aroundt you of a guide price. now what's wha sort of shop around andi of a guide price. now what's wha sort of shop around and get can sort of shop around and get tetten— can sort of shop around and get neten-nnt— can sort of shop around and get better-but even- can sort of shop around and get better-but even if- can sort of shop around and get better but even if you better deals. but even if you get— better deals. but even if you get o— better deals. but even if you get o goon— better deals. but even if you get a good deal,— better deals. but even if you get a good deal, you know, you get a good deal, you know, you get ooont— get a good deal, you know, you get ooont o— get a good deal, you know, you get ooont s on— get a good deal, you know, you get about 3 or interest get about 3 or 4% interest notes — get about 3 or 4% interest notes on— get about 3 or 4% interest rates. of because of rates. of course, because of tnttotton— rates. of course, because of inflation, you're _ rates. of course, because of inflation, you're still losing nnonen — money. so, you know, unfortunately , we need people to unfortunately, we need people to . sontng— unfortunately, we need people to . sontng ts— unfortunately, we need people to save . saving is a— unfortunately, we need people to save . saving is a good thing, a save. saving is a good thing, a goon— save. saving is a good thing, a good noott— save. saving is a good thing, a goot not to— save. saving is a good thing, a good habit to get— save. saving is a good thing, a good habit to get people into for good habit to get people into ton tnen— good habit to get people into for their futures, _ good habit to get people into for their futures, for them to neooe— for their futures, for them to become financially independent. but unfortunately— become financially independent. but unfortunately , at the but unfortunately, at the moment— but unfortunately, at the moment, while inflation is this ntgn— moment, while inflation is this ntgn tts— moment, while inflation is this ntgn tt-s o— moment, while inflation is this high, tt-s o ott— moment, while inflation is this high, it's a bit of— moment, while inflation is this high, it's a bit of a mug's gone.— high, it's a bit of a mug's gone. ton— high, it's a bit of a mug's game. you are— high, it's a bit of a mug's game. you are literally losing nonen— game. you are literally losing nonen nonng— game. you are literally losing money having it— game. you are literally losing money having it sit in your snostttstng— money having it sit in your subsidising banks . subsidising the banks. aotnottn— subsidising the banks. actually,-you- subsidising the banks. actually,-you are.| subsidising the banks. - actually,-you are. you're actually, yeah you are. you're putting them and they putting money into them and they can it they i mean, can use it as they want. i mean, it's terrible isn't it? scarlett go to it's terrible isn't it? - scarlett-go to different scarlett let's go to different ston— scarlett let's go to different ston no— scarlett let's go to different ston tn— scarlett let's go to different story now in the— scarlett let's go to different story now in the guardian. it's

gntte— story now in the guardian. it's quite remarkable— story now in the guardian. it's quite remarkable this has been noooentng. — quite remarkable this has been happening. shops are now happening. but shops are now tootng— happening. but shops are now tootng-ton— happening. but shops are now facing-for-out. happening. but shops are nowi facing-for-out free facing a ban for giving out free nooe— facing a ban for giving out free nooe testens— facing a ban for giving out free vape testers to _ facing a ban for giving out free vape testers to children. well oosstotn— vape testers to children. well oosstotn, ttne— vape testers to children. well possibly, like you , i had no possibly, like you, i had no nteo— possibly, like you, i had no tteo tnot— possibly, like you, i had no idea that they— possibly, like you, i had no idea that they were giving out nee— idea that they were giving out tnee nooes— idea that they were giving out tnee nooes to — idea that they were giving out free vapes to children . w free vapes to children. i mean, we free vapes to children. i mean, no nootng— free vapes to children. i mean, no nootng ts— free vapes to children. i mean, we vaping is not good for you, right? it's better than smoking and it was a way to wean people off smoking. but obviously the vape people realised that by putting these wonderful flavours in, they , they could attract in, they, they could attract children and i mean is , it's children and i mean is, it's a gateway drug. i mean obviously to cigarettes as also on the way back. but i mean it is appalling that that free vapes are given out to children so that they can and under 15 year olds. i don't i've forgotten how many under 15 year olds used to smoke. i mean i assume it's now very, very low, but it is now coming up with vaping and the is , it's with vaping and the is, it's i mean, it's really, really scary. and of course we should step in and say no , absolutely no. and

and say no, absolutely no. and actually we should , we should actually we should, we should ban marketing for vaping children. absolutely. i mean, there's no question it's bad for you. let's get it now. you know , i mean it's like when, when you go, you know, why buy a sort of soft drugs illegal and smoke and cigarettes illegal and they go well we can't do anything about it now. but vaping is still at the beginning. we actually can we can say we do not want anybody under 16 or 18 or whatever. i wonder if that to be allowed to vape. i wonder if that works. i remember i'm snontng— that works. i remember i'm snontng nn— that works. i remember i'm snontng nnn oge— i remember i'm showing my age here. when i was a showing my age here. when i was o ttt— showing my age here. when i was o no tnene— showing my age here. when i was a kid there was— showing my age here. when i was a kid there was a— showing my age here. when i was a kid there was a poster in my sonoot— a kid there was a poster in my sonoot nttn— a kid there was a poster in my school with this— a kid there was a poster in my school with this character oottet— school with this character called nicotine and nicotine. nos— called nicotine and nicotine. nos tnts— called nicotine and nicotine. was this bad— called nicotine and nicotine. was this bad guy that gave otggtes— was this bad guy that gave otggtes to— was this bad guy that gave ciggies to kids— was this bad guy that gave ciggies to kids and got them nonen.— ciggies to kids and got them nootet. t— ciggies to kids and got them hooked. i wonder you're into none— hooked. i wonder you're into none o— hooked. i wonder you're into none o nee— hooked. i wonder you're into you're a free marketeer, fraser. is you're a free marketeer, fraser. ts—o- you're a free marketeer, fraser. ts—o nen- you're a free marketeer, fraser. ts—o ol you're a free marketeer, fraser.l is vaping becoming a new a new soonets- tt— is vaping becoming a new a new scare-is it entirely- scare story, or is it entirely tnooonoonote— scare story, or is it entirely inappropriate for children to be on tnese— inappropriate for children to be on these things?— inappropriate for children to be on these things? _ inappropriate for children to be on these things? �*ct�*tzi;cc �*" on these things? well, first of all, you know, you should crack down on the sale of these things to children or certainly the giveaway these things to giveaway of these things to children. i think that's entirely yeah , entirely appropriate. but yeah, you not as high as

you know, it's not as high as smoking rates anything like smoking rates or anything like that anything like we saw in that or anything like we saw in the past. you know, most, most the past. you know, most, most the vast majority young the past. you know, most, most the vas are ajority young the past. you know, most, most the vas are ajoritaking)ung the past. you know, most, most the vas are ajori taking upg the past. you know, most, most the vas are ajori taking up smoking people are not taking up smoking and not taking up vaping and they're not taking up vaping ehhen and they're not taking up vaping either. they're is a worry that you can kind of go too far with these regulations. you know , you these regulations. you know, you brought up the flavours right ? brought up the flavours right? but flavours are really important to vaping because it has to taste of something and most people don't like it if it tastes of tobacco and you do want to wean people off smoking and onto vaping and it's and onto the vaping and it's nowhere near as, you know, damaging should we ban damaging as should we ban marketing on children though. marketing on on children though. i mean the bright colours those ttnonesoent— i mean the bright colours those fluorescent colours, those tonetn— fluorescent colours, those tonetn-t- fluorescent colours, those lovely-i mean- fluorescent colours, those lovely i mean you fluorescent colours, those- lovely-i mean you can see lovely smells i mean you can see why— lovely smells i mean you can see nnn tt— lovely smells i mean you can see nnn tt nonto— lovely smells i mean you can see nnn tt nontt oe— lovely smells i mean you can see why it would be attractive to a teenogen— why it would be attractive to a teenogen. t— why it would be attractive to a teenager. i can— why it would be attractive to a teenager. i can take to be that way— teenager. i can take to be that nonlnett. — teenager. i can take to be that nonlnett. t— teenager. i can take to be that way-well. i think- teenager. i can take to be that way well. i think it's way as well. i think it's nontetet— way as well. i think it's marketed quite broadly actually. you marketed quite broadly actually. ton tnon— marketed quite broadly actually. ton tnon. tots— marketed quite broadly actually. you know, lots of— marketed quite broadly actually. you know, lots of adults- marketed quite broadly actually. you know, lots of adults quite like those sweet, sweet tastes . like those sweet, sweet tastes. what people don't like is the sort tobacco flavoured vapes sort of tobacco flavoured vapes . and if they and if we restricted it to those tobacco flavours, then think you'd flavours, then i think you'd have fewer people have a lot fewer people switching from cigarettes.

switching over from cigarettes. what's interesting is they tntttottn— what's interesting is they initially came— what's interesting is they initially came as a as a initially came out as a as a ootnnon— initially came out as a as a ootnnon ott— initially came out as a as a pathway off of— initially came out as a as a pathway off of cigarettes. and ot— pathway off of cigarettes. and now, of _they've - now, of course, they've been stogget— now, of course, they've been slagged pathway in a slagged off as a pathway in a gotenon— slagged off as a pathway in a gotenonlont— slagged off as a pathway in a gateway and campaigners are gateway in and campaigners are ongntng— gateway in and campaigners are ongntng ton— gateway in and campaigners are ongntng ton tne— gateway in and campaigners are arguing for the same treatment . arguing for the same treatment. so arguing for the same treatment. so ototn— arguing for the same treatment. so plain packaging and that nonntote— so plain packaging and that horrible green— so plain packaging and that horrible green colour behind. nnt— horrible green colour behind. nntltne— horrible green colour behind. but-the moment- horrible green colour behind. but the moment is true. as but at the moment it is true. as you— but at the moment it is true. as non-nnen— but at the moment it is true. as non-nnen non— but at the moment it is true. as you _when you - into i you know, when you walk into a nensogents— you know, when you walk into a nesogets non — you know, when you walk into a newsagents, you hit by a newsagents, you are hit by a non— newsagents, you are hit by a nott ot— newsagents, you are hit by a nott ot tts— newsagents, you are hit by a wall of it's like _ newsagents, you are hit by a wall of it's like toys and sweets— wall of it's like toys and sweets and _ wall of it's like toys and sweets and they're cheap enough as sweets and they're cheap enough os nett. — sweets and they're cheap enough os nett. t— sweets and they're cheap enough as well. i mean— sweets and they're cheap enough as well. i mean ithink- sweets and they're cheap enough as well. w w sweets and they're cheap enough as well. y?” w as well. i mean i think £4 in the you just you can grab the shops, you just you can grab one at till. so one quite easily at the till. so yeah, it's interesting. let us know what you think at home. you're definitely have an opinion gb at gb opinion on that. gb views at gb news. made.com. is time for news. made.com. that is time for fraser scarlett. i'm afraid fraser and scarlett. i'm afraid you're back with us once more. i believe we are one last rodeo . believe we are one last rodeo. thank much. fraser and thank you very much. fraser and scott very thank you very much. fraser and scott—very much.- scott, thank you very much. onon— scott, thank you very much. onon-on— scott, thank you very much. enon-on non.- scott, thank you very much. okay, on now. you scott, thank you very much. - okay,-on now. you might okay, moving on now. you might ossootote— okay, moving on now. you might associate windmills with the netherlands,— associate windmills with the netherlands, shirley netherlands, but the shirley ntntnttt— netherlands, but the shirley windmill in— netherlands, but the shirley windmill in south london was one of windmill in south london was one ot tne— windmill in south london was one ot tne tost— windmill in south london was one of the last ones— windmill in south london was one of the last ones to— windmill in south london was one of the last ones to be built in tngtont— of the last ones to be built in england .1854. _ of the last ones to be built in england 1854. england in 1854. fabulous story this the grade two listed building is reopening to the pubuc building is reopening to the public for the first time since the pandemic and our london reporter hartle went along

reporter lisa hartle went along for a private tour , a 170 year for a private tour, a 170 year old windmill is not what you'd expect to find in a cul de sac in croydon. shirley windmill is a in croydon. shirley windmill is o gote— in croydon. shirley windmill is o gnote tno— in croydon. shirley windmill is a grade two listed— w : w shirley windmill is a grade two listed building and one a grade two listed building and ot— a grade two listed building and ot tne— a grade two listed building and one of the last— a grade two listed building and one of the last windmills to be tnttt— one of the last windmills to be nnttt tn— one of the last windmills to be built in england.— one of the last windmills to be built in england. _ one of the last windmills to be built in england. for many oeoote— built in england. for many people are very surprised that it's here because it's not that obvious, although you can see it quite plainly from the main road . it does entail looking up the close and many people who visit do so . having lived close and many people who visit do so. having lived in close and many people who visit do so . having lived in shirley do so. having lived in shirley for quite a few years and didn't even know it was here, the windmill is owned and maintained by croydon council, but its volunteers like david, who open it up to the public. well, it was originally built to grind wheat into the flour for making bread in around 1900, there were over 10,000 windmills in england and the number now is probably less than 1000. and there are very few that are actually

complete . and in a state of complete. and in a state of restoration like this one, yes, the mill is five floors high and each floor has got its own purpose. and as we come down through the mill, you would follow the grain as it came from the bin floor through the stones , through the spout floor, and then down to the ground floor. yeah. when this mill was in use, it would have been a bit more dangerous even than it is now. there would have been no handrails whatsoever. the steps which are original would have been almost like ladders and very little in the way of guards on open gearing. shirley windmill is special because it's a remarkable survivor and you can see views over all of london. you can see wembley, you can see the shard, you can see me a great deal of london from

the top of this mill. the windmill was cc the windmill was originally built the top of this mill. the- windmill was originally built on a windmill was originally built on o nag,— windmill was originally built on o nag, ont— windmill was originally built on a field, but over— windmill was originally built on a field, but over the years, the tone— a field, but over the years, the tone nos— a field, but over the years, the land has been— a field, but over the years, the land has been developed and toton— land has been developed and toton tts— land has been developed and toton tt-s o— land has been developed and today it's a residential close. teon. — today it's a residential close. teon. so— today it's a residential close. yeah. so when— today it's a residential close. yeah. so when we first kind of nonet— yeah. so when we first kind of nonet nee— yeah. so when we first kind of moved here, we— yeah. so when we first kind of moved here, we were really ostonntet— moved here, we were really astounded that— moved here, we were really astounded that there was this tontostto— astounded that there was this fantastic windmill just in the note— fantastic windmill just in the ntttte g,— fantastic windmill just in the ntttte on t— fantastic windmill just in the middle of, i suppose just like a nonnnot— middle of, i suppose just like a normal-estate- middle of, i suppose just like a normal-estate ,- middle of, i suppose just like a normal estate , right? normal housing estate, right? so, normal housing estate, right? so.-tnon.— normal housing estate, right? soltnon. tts— normal housing estate, right? so,-know, it's really- so, you know, it's really beautiful to it here. it's beautiful to have it here. it's a nice view, a nice thing to walk past each day. and you you don't walk past each day. and you you ton-t ttne— walk past each day. and you you don't tire really— walk past each day. and you you don't tire really of— walk past each day. and you you don't tire really of ever- and you you don't tire really of ever seeing it don't tire really of ever seeing tt ont— don't tire really of ever seeing it and walking— don't tire really of ever seeing it and walking _so - don't tire really of ever seeing it and walking so yes, it and walking past. so yes, tts— it and walking past. so yes, it's something— it and walking past. so yes, it's something we've enjoyed all tnese— it's something we've enjoyed all these _windmill- it's something we've enjoyed all these windmill has these years at the windmill has teen— these years at the windmill has teen-tntng— these years at the windmill has been _thing for- these years at the windmill has been thing for people been a unique thing for people to— been a unique thing for people to-nnot— been a unique thing for people now to .whatlwas- been a unique thing for people now to what was like now to see what it was like oetone— now to see what it was like oetone . — now to see what it was like before . and— now to see what it was like before . and so- now to see what it was like before . ' w: f before. and so especially a lot of children come to visit the windmill and we really enjoy and a lot of people even who come to visit us, they always ask, what is this windmill about? shirley windmill is usually— is this windmill about? shirley windmill is usually open- w: cc �* shirley windmill is usually open on the tnst— windmill is usually open on the ttnst snnton— windmill is usually open on the first sunday of— windmill is usually open on the first sunday of every month . first sunday of every month. ttso— first sunday of every month. ttso nontte— first sunday of every month. lisa hartle gb— first sunday of every month. lisa hartle gb news london. c1w lisa hartle gb news london. oh, it's lisa hartle gb news london. oh, tts o— lisa hartle gb news london. oh, tts o tonetn— lisa hartle gb news london. oh, tts o tonetn ston— lisa hartle gb news london. oh, it's a lovely story .— lisa hartle gb news london. oh, it's a lovely story . well,- lisa hartle gb news london. oh, it's a lovely story . well, do- it's a lovely story. well, do stay with us because coming up, we'll have more on eamonn holmes's explosive interview

with gb news as he claims there was a toxic culture surrounding philip schofield . but first, philip schofield. but first, rachel airs— philip schofield. but first, rachel airs has— philip schofield. but first, rachel airs has your- c f ti;c: but first, rachel airs has your tuesday neotnen— rachel airs has your tuesday weather forecast _ rachel airs has your tuesday weather forecast good morning. my weather forecast good morning. ttn nonne— weather forecast good morning. ttn ts— weather forecast good morning. my name is rachel— weather forecast good morning. my name is rachel ayres- weather forecast good morning. my name is rachel ayres and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast brought to you by the met office . so it was a by the met office. so it was a fine, long weekend for many with plenty of sunshine around. is that going to change much, though, as we go to the end of may? no is the answer . may? well, no is the answer. with high pressure still remaining the dominant feature of uk weather at the moment, of the uk weather at the moment, it does mean we've got some northeasterly down east northeasterly winds down east and coast. so a little cooler here to start the day on tuesday . if you are in that fresh breeze and as well, if you're under of those clearer skies under any of those clearer skies further as temperatures further west as temperatures will a little lower will have dropped a little lower here night. but in the west here last night. but in the west , that's where we will see the best of the sunshine through today, well the highest today, as well as the highest temperatures in all of these lengthy sunny spells with highs in the low to mid 20s through today.

in the low to mid 20s through today . now, as we go into this today. now, as we go into this evening, we will start to see that cloud that's in the east just pushing further west through tonight. and it's going to move more bodily westwards than what we've seen of late . so than what we've seen of late. so much of england and wales will be under cloud cover by the start of wednesday morning. so a warmer night in general, start of wednesday morning. so a warmer night in general , though, warmer night in general, though, there will be some clearer skies across northern ireland and western scotland. so we could just see temperatures dropping just see temperatures dropping just a little bit lower here there. so a cloudier start to there. so a cloudier start to the day on wednesday for some than of late. and this does mean that it will take a little longer for that cloud to push its way towards the north its way back towards the north sea. but that will start to happen as we going through happen as we get going through the it does mean the morning. but it does mean it'll cloudier day it'll be a slightly cloudier day for western parts and for western parts of wales and england throughout the day on wednesday. best of the sunshine, though, will always be in the west with that cool north easterly breeze still persisting for eastern coast. so always feeling cooler here and that east west split is going to continue throughout the much of

the of this week though, the rest of this week though, highs will still get into the low 20s , especially across the low 20s, especially across the west . but low 20s, especially across the west. but this low 20s, especially across the west . but this is low 20s, especially across the west. but this is boston or at least a part of it anyway. what we voted for has c what we voted for has backfired. /titc we voted for has backfired. you ton-t— we voted for has backfired. you ton-t see— we voted for has backfired. you ton-t nnonn— we voted for has backfired. you don't see many locals- we voted for has backfired. you don't see many locals about anymore. do you feel as though non-ne— anymore. do you feel as though none got— anymore. do you feel as though none got nnot— anymore. do you feel as though you've got what you— cwg witti; do you feel as though you've got what you asked for? no.— you've got what you asked for? to. not— you've got what you asked for? to. not ot— you've got what you asked for? no, not at all. from _ you've got what you asked for? no, not at all. from my- you've got what you asked for? mt from my point you've got what you asked for? \ttilt from my point of no, not at all. from my point of nten— no, not at all. from my point of nes.— no, not at all. from my point of nes. tnon— no, not at all. from my point of view, yes. from a— \ttilt from my point of view, yes. from a business point of view, yes. from a business point ot nten— view, yes. from a business point ot tnts— view, yes. from a business point of view, this was— view, yes. from a business point of view, this was a— view, yes. from a business point of view, this was a campaign to tnst— of view, this was a campaign to tnst to— of view, this was a campaign to tnst to get— of view, this was a campaign to tnst to get o— of view, this was a campaign to just to get a referendum, just to get— just to get a referendum, just to get referendum. �*iftt�*ti; : to get a referendum. we need oeoote— to get a referendum. we need people like nigel to grab it. come on, lead the country, they tell election days what tell us on election days what they hear, but they they want us to hear, but they never actually mean it. never actually really mean it. we're to be gb news we're proud to be gb news britain's news .

my my friend . the toxicity is not my friend. the toxicity is not with me, dan wootton, or anyone else . the toxicity is with you else. the toxicity is with you and your mates in management. eamonn holmes hits out at phillip schofield in an explosive interview with gb news as. good explosive interview with gb news as . good morning. it's 8:00 on as. good morning. it's 8:00 on tneston— as. good morning. it's 8:00 on tneston tne — as. good morning. it's 8:00 on tuesday, the 30th— good morning. it's 8:00 on tuesday, the 30th of may. this is tuesday, the 30th of may. this ts nneottost— tuesday, the 30th of may. this is breakfast on— tuesday, the 30th of may. this is breakfast on gb news with

tttte— is breakfast on gb news with ellie costello— is breakfast on gb news with ellie costello and martin oononen— ellie costello and martin oononen . — ellie costello and martin daubney . and- ellie costello and martin daubney . . wti;ti; daubney. and here's what's leading the news this morning, as we just discussed, eamonn holmes has branded phillip schofield a chief narcissist in an exclusive bombshell interview last night with dan wootton dunng last night with dan wootton during the sit down chat. he also accused itv of toxicity and of covering up the presenter's affair with a much younger male colleague. the affair with a much younger male colleague . the government is colleague. the government is neottng— colleague. the government is neottng ton— colleague. the government is heading for legal— fg the government is heading for legal battle with the pandemic— heading for legal battle with the pandemic inquiry over the eeotse— the pandemic inquiry over the eeotse ot— the pandemic inquiry over the release of boris— the pandemic inquiry over the release of boris johnson's nnotsaoo— release of boris johnson's whatsapp messages today . whatsapp messages today. tttntstens— whatsapp messages today. ministers will— whatsapp messages today. ministers will decide whether to tonnon — ministers will decide whether to tonnon o— ministers will decide whether to launch a judicial— ministers will decide whether to launch a judicial review in an ottenot— launch a judicial review in an ottenot to— launch a judicial review in an attempt to avoid— launch a judicial review in an attempt to avoid having to hand over messages and diaries . 'wt: over messages and diaries. and totonn— over messages and diaries. and totonn nonto— over messages and diaries. and labour would allow— over messages and diaries. and labour would allow local authorities to buy land cheaply if they intend to build on it as part of a plan to ease the housing crisis. it comes amid reports that tory donor property developers are withholding funds in protest of the government's failure to build houses and pub and restaurant owners are urging

the government for support after they saw their energy bills soan they saw their energy bills soar. 81, less than a third of nosottotttn— 81, less than a third of hospitality businesses are ootnot— hospitality businesses are optimal about— hospitality businesses are optimal about their future. tnot-s— optimal about their future. that's according to industry oootes— that's according to industry oootes .— that's according to industry bodies . and— that's according to industry bodies . and you can get in touch bodies. and you can get in touch via bodies. and you can get in touch nto tnttten— bodies. and you can get in touch nto tnttten on— bodies. and you can get in touch via twitter or email— bodies. and you can get in touch via twitter or email gb views. at on— via twitter or email gb views. at on tons— via twitter or email gb views. at gb news .com— via twitter or email gb views. at gb news .com and- via twitter or email gb views. at gb news .com and let- via twitter or email gb views. at gb news .com and let us know where you're watching and listen to. so we can give you a shout out. as we've had a load in so far, we got going about pubs. yes, of you talking about yes, lots of you talking about tne— yes, lots of you talking about tne onoe— yes, lots of you talking about tne ontoelo— yes, lots of you talking about the price-a pint— yes, lots of you talking about the price a pint near you. the price of a pint near you. nonn— the price of a pint near you. oonn-anne— the price of a pint near you. barry-annie have- the price of a pint near you. barry annie have been in barry and annie have been in tonon.— barry and annie have been in tonon. ooot— barry and annie have been in touch. good morning to you. and say touch. good morning to you. and son-nent— touch. good morning to you. and son-nent to— touch. good morning to you. and son-nent to o— touch. good morning to you. and say-went to a local- touch. good morning to you. and say went to a local pub in say they went to a local pub in tne— say they went to a local pub in tne ne— say they went to a local pub in the new forest. _ say they went to a local pub in the new forest. they half the new forest. they had half a otnt— the new forest. they had half a otnt-o— the new forest. they had half a otnt-o snott- the new forest. they had half a pint-a small glass- the new forest. they had half a pint a small glass of pint of coke, a small glass of nnne— pint of coke, a small glass of neonn— pint of coke, a small glass of wine, nearly fainted when the oonnott— wine, nearly fainted when the barmaid asked— wine, nearly fainted when the barmaid asked for £60. 50. so as sonetntn— barmaid asked for £60. 50. so as sonetotn nno— barmaid asked for £60. 50. so as somebody who likes— barmaid asked for £60. 50. so as somebody who likes to think of myself as professionally tied, that makes that hurts me to think about , that makes that hurts me to think about, let alone to pay. listen to this . branchless. listen to this. branchless. brian. my local village pubs don't display individual drink pnces don't display individual drink prices anymore unless paying in a single transaction in cash for

one point, you haven't a clue just how pricey it is until you tap your card and then you find out the real pain could be dangerous. yes. yes, john says stnote— dangerous. yes. yes, john says stnote soe— dangerous. yes. yes, john says simple answer don't- :3 yes. yes, john says simple answer don't drink in onos— simple answer don't drink in onos ont— simple answer don't drink in pubs and brew— simple answer don't drink in pubs and brew your own or oostotn— pubs and brew your own or abstain completely. well, john, do abstain completely. well, john, to non— abstain completely. well, john, to non neottn— abstain completely. well, john, do you really want to see the ent— do you really want to see the ent ot— do you really want to see the ent ot o— do you really want to see the end of a great— do you really want to see the end of a great british pub? no, ton-t— end of a great british pub? no, ton-t tntnt— end of a great british pub? no, don't think so— end of a great british pub? no, don't think so .— end of a great british pub? no, don't think so . no, i end of a great british pub? no, don't think so. no, i a end of a great british pub? no, don't think so . no, i a great don't think so. no, i a great toss— don't think so. no, i a great toss to— don't think so. no, i a great toss to nonn— don't think so. no, i a great loss to many communities. ' loss to many communities. a ntot— loss to many communities. a nttot oont— loss to many communities. a nttot oont ot— loss to many communities. a vital part of the— loss to many communities. a vital part of the beating heartbeat of britain, a community hub where we stay sane. we stay safe , we stay sane. we stay safe, we stay together. i just can't sing the praises of pubs. yeah and a final one from lee- praises of pubs. yeah and a final one from lee in- final one from lee in middlesbrough, who said at the tons— middlesbrough, who said at the darts championships in leeds, oooonenttn— darts championships in leeds, apparently charging £16 a pint. and apparently charging £16 a pint. ant tt— apparently charging £16 a pint. ant tt tnot-s— apparently charging £16 a pint. and if that's true, _ apparently charging £16 a pint. and if that's true, that is the most— and if that's true, that is the most expensive _ and if that's true, that is the most expensive pint i've ever neont— most expensive pint i've ever tent on— most expensive pint i've ever heard of. what— most expensive pint i've ever heard of. what about you? tnot-s— heard of. what about you? tnot-s o— heard of. what about you? that's a bull's— heard of. what about you? that's a bull's eye- heard of. what about you? that's a bull's eye in- heard of. what about you? that's a bull's eye in the wrong place. yeah. keep those views oontng— place. yeah. keep those views oontng tn.— place. yeah. keep those views oontng tn. on— place. yeah. keep those views coming in. gb views- f yeah. keep those views coming in. gb views gb news onon— coming in. gb views gb news onon .— coming in. gb views gb news onon . — coming in. gb views gb news .com. okay . and— coming in. gb views gb news .com. okay . ' wt: t coming in. gb views gb news .com. okay . . t cctitq .com. okay. and to our top story now, eamonn holmes has claimed there was a total cover up over

phillip schofield's affair with a younger man in an exclusive live interview with gb news last night. well, itv has denied the ottegottons— night. well, itv has denied the allegations, saying— w gwc well, itv has denied the allegations, saying that they tnnesttgote — allegations, saying that they investigate covid when rumours of investigate covid when rumours ot o— investigate covid when rumours of a relationship— investigate covid when rumours of a relationship first surfaced,— of a relationship first surfaced, but that both parties is categorically— surfaced, but that both parties is categorically and repeatedly tenet— is categorically and repeatedly denied them. _ is categorically and repeatedly denied them. t/tic w is categorically and repeatedly denied them. / cwt: c c denied them. yeah, and it's sit down with dan wootton eamonn also called out what he saw as a culture of toxic motty at this morning in life. i have always had this belief that a lie unchallenged becomes the truth . unchallenged becomes the truth. and so, although i don't want to stone— and so, although i don't want to stont no— and so, although i don't want to stont no to— and so, although i don't want to stand up to schofield constantly ootnttng— stand up to schofield constantly ootnttng ont— stand up to schofield constantly pointing out where he's lying , i pointing out where he's lying, i teet— pointing out where he's lying, i teet t— pointing out where he's lying, i teet t none— pointing out where he's lying, i feel i have to.— pointing out where he's lying, i feel i have to. is— pointing out where he's lying, i feel i have to. is he delusional?- feel i have to. is he delusional? does he imagined feel i have to. is he— delusional? does he imagined the or delusional? does he imagined the on ts— delusional? does he imagined the on ts ne— delusional? does he imagined the on ts ne so— delusional? does he imagined the or is he so detached— delusional? does he imagined the or is he so detached from real ttne— or is he so detached from real ttte ot— or is he so detached from real ttte ot tnts— or is he so detached from real life at this morning that he nttn-t— life at this morning that he didn't realise— life at this morning that he didn't realise what was going on— didn't realise what was going on t— didn't realise what was going on t otten— didn't realise what was going on? i often say— didn't realise what was going on? i often say this to ruth. i sont— on? i often say this to ruth. i sott nonne— on? i often say this to ruth. i said maybe he— on? i often say this to ruth. i said maybe he believes all this stntt. — said maybe he believes all this stntt. nonne— said maybe he believes all this stuff. maybe he— said maybe he believes all this stuff. maybe he did not see what nent— stuff. maybe he did not see what nent on— stuff. maybe he did not see what went on actually,— stuff. maybe he did not see what went on actually, because tnene-s— went on actually, because there's something wrong with him . nnt— there's something wrong with him . nnt ne— there's something wrong with him . nnt ne ts—

there's something wrong with him on ne ts tne— there's something wrong with him . but he is the chief nana tnstst— . but he is the chief nana tnstst ne— . but he is the chief nana insist he is— . but he is the chief nana insist he is a— . but he is the chief nana insist he is a complete and ntten— insist he is a complete and ntten onet— insist he is a complete and utter dyed in— insist he is a complete and utter dyed in the wool narcissist _ utter dyed in the wool narcissist .— utter dyed in the wool narcissist . everything is about narcissist. everything is about ntn— narcissist. everything is about ntn. nnot— narcissist. everything is about him. what did— narcissist. everything is about him. what did you know about tnts— him. what did you know about no nonng— him. what did you know about this young man? _ him. what did you know about this young man? f this young man? because he was there a lot. he's been pictured on the sofa as a very young teenager sitting in between holly willoughby and phillip schofield field. and then i remember working at itv daytime , and he was a non—negotiable part of philip's life. sometimes there would even be taxis, ferry seeing this young man between the studio and philip's house. so what did you know about him before he was moved on to loose women? ididn't before he was moved on to loose women? i didn't know, but i've snosegnenttn— women? i didn't know, but i've subsequently found— r i didn't know, but i've subsequently found out from a nen,— subsequently found out from a nen, nen— subsequently found out from a nen, nen goon— subsequently found out from a very, very good source because he very, very good source because ne nonto— very, very good source because he would arrive— very, very good source because he would arrive much earlier in the he would arrive much earlier in tne nonntng— he would arrive much earlier in the morning than— he would arrive much earlier in the morning than i would for the onognonne— the morning than i would for the onognonne tnot— the morning than i would for the programme that he was delivered tnon— programme that he was delivered tnon nnttto-s— programme that he was delivered from philip's london home. nsnottn— from philip's london home. nsnottn on— from philip's london home. nsnottn on o— from philip's london home. usually on a friday morning, oeoonse— usually on a friday morning, because thursday was playtime ttne— because thursday was playtime ttne nnen— because thursday was playtime ttne nnen ne— because thursday was playtime time when he and— because thursday was playtime time when he and phillip would hit time when he and phillip would no tne— time when he and phillip would no tne tonn— time when he and phillip would hit the town and—

time when he and phillip would hit the town and then he oontonstn— hit the town and then he obviously stayed overnight . obviously stayed overnight. ntgnt.— obviously stayed overnight. tttgnt. ant— obviously stayed overnight. right. and there are records to snon— right. and there are records to snon tnot— right. and there are records to snon tnot ne— right. and there are records to show that he was— right. and there are records to show that he was brought in the next— show that he was brought in the next ton— show that he was brought in the next day separately in cars paid for next day separately in cars paid ton by— next day separately in cars paid ton tn ttt— next day separately in cars paid ton by ttt os— next day separately in cars paid for by itv cars paid for by itv. so for by itv cars paid for by itv. so tne— for by itv cars paid for by itv. so the management— for by itv cars paid for by itv. so the management would - for by itv cars paid for by itv. so the management would have had to have known about that, wouldn't philip to have known about that, woulthe philip to have known about that, woulthe separately�*iilip to have known about that, woulthe separately. but to have known about that, woulthe separately . but it paid the bill separately. but it would still have to go- t: cc but it would still have to go through the would still have to go through tne-otttoe— would still have to go through the-office that- would still have to go through the office that they would still have to go through the have office that they would still have to go through the have seen:e that they would still have to go through the have seen that at they would still have to go through the have seen that and ey would still have to go through the have seen that and known would have seen that and known tnot— would have seen that and known tnot tts— would have seen that and known tnot tt-s o— would have seen that and known that it's a total— would have seen that and known that it's a total cover up. tnose— that it's a total cover up. tnose tn— that it's a total cover up. those in authority had to know. they— those in authority had to know. tnen not— those in authority had to know. tnen not to— those in authority had to know. they had to know— those in authority had to know. they had to know what going they had to know what was going on ont— they had to know what was going on ont tnen— they had to know what was going on and they thought they would tonge— on and they thought they would totge o— on and they thought they would totge o onttet— on and they thought they would dodge a bullet with this, which tnen—to. — dodge a bullet with this, which tnen—to. ant- dodge a bullet with this, which they—do. and they. they which they do. and they do oonstonttn— they which they do. and they do constantly-with - constantly because with schofield _ constantly because with schofield talking about it, tnose— schofield talking about it, tnose nno— schofield talking about it, those who speak out against him, nontn— those who speak out against him, notntn ne— those who speak out against him, mainly me, amanda holden and you,— mainly me, amanda holden and non, non-tt— mainly me, amanda holden and non, non-tt oe— mainly me, amanda holden and you, you'll be included in the toxtottn— you, you'll be included in the toxtottn tnot— you, you'll be included in the toxicity that that— you, you'll be included in the toxicity that that goes on. dr. toxicity that that goes on. dr. to on. — toxicity that that goes on. dr. to on. toni— toxicity that that goes on. dr. to on. tont ot— toxicity that that goes on. dr. to dr. ranj of course as well. i tntnt— to dr. ranj of course as well. i tntnt tnttto— to dr. ranj of course as well. i think philip is— to dr. ranj of course as well. i think philip is absolutely right ooont— think philip is absolutely right ooont tono— think philip is absolutely right about toxic city.— think philip is absolutely right about toxic city. but my friend , tne — about toxic city. but my friend , tne toxtottn— about toxic city. but my friend , the toxicity is— about toxic city. but my friend , the toxicity is not with me , , the toxicity is not with me, oon— , the toxicity is not with me, dan wootton _ , the toxicity is not with me, dan wootton or— , the toxicity is not with me, dan wootton or anyone else. the toxtottn— dan wootton or anyone else. the toxtottn ts— dan wootton or anyone else. the toxicity is with— dan wootton or anyone else. the toxicity is with you— dan wootton or anyone else. the toxicity is with you and your notes— toxicity is with you and your notes ont— toxicity is with you and your mates and management and enenootn— mates and management and enenootn nno— mates and management and everybody who kept you in power

and everybody who kept you in power ont tn— everybody who kept you in power and in abusive— everybody who kept you in power and in abusive power for so tong.— and in abusive power for so tong. ant— and in abusive power for so tong. ant tt— and in abusive power for so long. and if i'm— and in abusive power for so long. and if i'm guilty of onntntng,— long. and if i'm guilty of anything, it's— long. and if i'm guilty of anything, it's speaking up for all anything, it's speaking up for ott tnose— anything, it's speaking up for all those researchers who you tgnonet— all those researchers who you tgnonet .— all those researchers who you tgnonet , ott— all those researchers who you ignored , all those producers who ignored, all those producers who you ignored, all those producers who non tneotet— ignored, all those producers who you treated like— ignored, all those producers who you treated like dirt, all those oeoote— you treated like dirt, all those oeoote nno— you treated like dirt, all those oeoote nno oe— you treated like dirt, all those people who are texting and onontng— people who are texting and onontng ne— people who are texting and phoning me and dan wootton and sontng,— phoning me and dan wootton and sayingn ne— phoning me and dan wootton and sontng, ne teet— phoning me and dan wootton and saying, we feel now— phoning me and dan wootton and saying, we feel now empowered to ont— saying, we feel now empowered to ont ont— saying, we feel now empowered to come out and tell— saying, we feel now empowered to come out and tell the public the tntn— come out and tell the public the truth, because— come out and tell the public the truth, because the— come out and tell the public the truth, because the truth is the onotto— truth, because the truth is the onotto oon-t— truth, because the truth is the public can't handle the truth. tne— public can't handle the truth. tne onotto— public can't handle the truth. the public don't— public can't handle the truth. the public don't want. they tntnt— the public don't want. they tntnt none— the public don't want. they think you're a— the public don't want. they think you're a little broom onoooont— think you're a little broom cupboard person and they grew up nttn— cupboard person and they grew up nttn non— cupboard person and they grew up nttn non ont— cupboard person and they grew up with you and your— cupboard person and they grew up with you and your lovely and none— with you and your lovely and you're adorable— with you and your lovely and you're adorable and whatever, ont—tone- you're adorable and whatever,i ont—tone-nonn but you let your fame and your oonen— but you let your fame and your oonen oonnot. — but you let your fame and your power corrupt. you— but you let your fame and your power corrupt. you and that's nnene— power corrupt. you and that's where we're at— power corrupt. you and that's where we're at today. and if i'm gntttn— where we're at today. and if i'm gntttn ot— where we're at today. and if i'm guilty of anything,— where we're at today. and if i'm guilty of anything, it's guilty of guilty of anything, it's guilty on eooostng— guilty of anything, it's guilty on enoostng non— guilty of anything, it's guilty of exposing you . �*ctt�*ti;cc of exposing you. well, he doesn't hold back , does he? it doesn't hold back, does he? it is an explosive interview. and you can watch the whole thing on our youtube channel at gb news as well. an itv spokesperson has said that further to our statement on saturday, itv can confirm that when rumours of a relationship between phillip schofield and an employee of itv first began to circulate in

early 2020, itv investigated both parties were questioned and both parties were questioned and both categorically and repeatedly denied the rumours , repeatedly denied the rumours, as did philip's then agency ymu. in addition , itv spoke to in addition, itv spoke to a number of people who worked on this morning and were not provided with and did not find any evidence of a relationship beyond hearsay and rumour. philip's statement on friday reveals that he lied to people at itv, from senior management to fellow presenters to ymu to the media and to others over this relationship . well, what an this relationship. well, what an exotostne— this relationship. well, what an explosive bombshell.- well, what an explosive bombshell. now. teoonen— explosive bombshell. now. tteoonen ton— explosive bombshell. now. reporter ray addison joins us tnon — reporter ray addison joins us now from television centre in nest— now from television centre in nest tonton— now from television centre in west london, where this morning is west london, where this morning ts tnon. — west london, where this morning ts tnon. ooot— west london, where this morning is from. good morning, ray. no notn— is from. good morning, ray. no nottn on— is from. good morning, ray. no more holly or philip today, but the more holly or philip today, but tne snon— more holly or philip today, but tne snon ot— more holly or philip today, but the show at least— more holly or philip today, but the show at least for now, rolls toesn-t— the show at least for now, rolls toesn-t tt— the show at least for now, rolls on, doesn't it ?_ the show at least for now, rolls on, doesn't it ? well, that's on, doesn't it? well, that's nen— on, doesn't it? well, that's nen nnon— on, doesn't it? well, that's very much the _ on, doesn't it? well, that's very much the question. c: very much the question. good nonntng— very much the question. good nonntng to— very much the question. good nonntng to non— very much the question. good morning to you both. itv executives will no doubt be in crisis talks today, wondering

how much longer can this morning go on, especially considering the revelations in the exclusive interview between eamonn holmes and dan wootton on gb news last night, of course. eamonn holmes saying that in his opinion, itv must have known what was going on. as we just heard, revealing details of these so—called thursday playtimes where phillip schofield would party on thursdays and then on the friday morning this this young man, this young runner, would be delivered back to the this morning set. and itv, of course, admitting, though, that they were warned of this affair three years ago, but say they launched an investigation and they found no evidence of that , raising the no evidence of that, raising the question from many was that a case of an incompetent investigation or or something perhaps worse? was there perhaps a deliberate cover up? eamonn of course. demand adding that itv now release the records of that thorough investigation to show

just how thorough it actually was . now, we also heard that was. now, we also heard that eamonn was accusing schofield of being responsible for a toxic culture at this morning . and of culture at this morning. and of course, now we have to ask , is course, now we have to ask, is the this morning brand tarnished, too, just too far ? tarnished, too, just too far? eamonn saying he doesn't believe holly willoughby will actually return to the couch in order to protect her own brand . really protect her own brand. really interesting. ray.— protect her own brand. really interesting. ray. very- f : really interesting. ray. very good to non— interesting. ray. very good to non gtntng— interesting. ray. very good to see you giving us the latest tntst— see you giving us the latest tntst tn— see you giving us the latest twist in this— see you giving us the latest twist in this controversy. thank you— twist in this controversy. thank non nen— twist in this controversy. thank non nen nnon— twist in this controversy. thank non nen nnon .— twist in this controversy. thank you very much . yeah. you very much. yeah. let's speak to— you very much. yeah. let's speak now to the assistant showbiz editor of the mirror, daniel bird. good morning to you , bird. good morning to you, daniel. so eamonn was absolutely not pulling his punches whatsoever. he called it a delusion, an illusion , a total delusion, an illusion, a total cover up. he thinks that holly should go and the press office at itv, he called the minister of lies . what do you make about of lies. what do you make about all that ? yes. so, eamonn , like all that? yes. so, eamonn, like you— all that? yes. so, eamonn, like non sont— all that? yes. so, eamonn, like non an, ttt— all that? yes. so, eamonn, like you said, did not— all that? yes. so, eamonn, like you said, did not hold- cwcc7 yes. so, eamonn, like you said, did not hold back. and tnts— you said, did not hold back. and this information— you said, did not hold back. and this information is— you said, did not hold back. and this information is what people

none— this information is what people none teen— this information is what people have been saying— this information is what people have been saying for a couple of tons— have been saying for a couple of tons no— have been saying for a couple of tons so— have been saying for a couple of days now. so itv— have been saying for a couple of days now. so itv have said that nnen— days now. so itv have said that nnen-oonno— days now. so itv have said that when-carried-an- when they carried out an investigation,— when they carried out an investigation, an came investigation, an nothing came tnon— investigation, an nothing came non-nnt— investigation, an nothing came tnonlnnt os— investigation, an nothing came from but as philip he from it. but as philip said, he ottegettn— from it. but as philip said, he allegedly believes there was no toxtottn. — allegedly believes there was no toxicity. personally toxicity. but i personally tettene— toxicity. but i personally believe that— toxicity. but i personally believe that if 5 or 6 people sontng— believe that if 5 or 6 people are saying there— believe that if 5 or 6 people are saying there are, there is, tnen— are saying there are, there is, tnen-oe— are saying there are, there is, tnen-oe nnong- are saying there are, there is, tnen-oe nnong . - are saying there are, there is, they-be wrong . i- are saying there are, there is, they be wrong . w are saying there are, there is,- they-be wrong . i mean, and they can't be wrong. i mean, and tnot— they can't be wrong. i mean, and tnot ts— they can't be wrong. i mean, and that is what is so damaging, isn't because this is show isn't it? because this is a show thatis isn't it? because this is a show that is meant to be family friendly. it's meant to be warm and inclusive. and we've had those ranj those allegations from dr. ranj singh we've singh yesterday. we've got eamonn dan eamonn holmes speaking to dan wootton night . i eamonn holmes speaking to dan wootton night. i mean, eamonn holmes speaking to dan wootton night . i mean, the wootton last night. i mean, the question is how long can this morning go for ? on so, yes , so morning go for? on so, yes, so obviously this morning said last week that it would be returning today. but i believe that was too— today. but i believe that was too premature.— today. but i believe that was too premature. i— : but i believe that was too premature. i think people are too premature. i think people tnntng— too premature. i think people tnntng tn— too premature. i think people are tuning in just for the drama notnen— are tuning in just for the drama notnen-tne— are tuning in just for the drama rather-the stories- are tuning in just for the drama rather the stories that rather than the stories that tnts— rather than the stories that tnts-snons. - rather than the stories that. this-shows. .think this morning shows. so i think it this morning shows. so i think tt snontn— this morning shows. so i think tt snontt oe— this morning shows. so i think it should be taken off air until a-investigation_ it should be taken off air until a investigation been a full investigation has been gone— a full investigation has been gone tnnongn— a full investigation has been gone through. well, and we're enoeottng— gone through. well, and we're expecting more— gone through. well, and we're expecting more bombshells to keep_ expecting more bombshells to teeo oontng— expecting more bombshells to keep coming out— expecting more bombshells to keep coming out . c1wti; keep coming out. one of the interesting things that eamonn talks about was the lack of duty of care. this young man, we must forget, mustn't forget, of course, young, vulnerable man

course, a young, vulnerable man is there. and indeed , ruth is out there. and indeed, ruth evans wife has now become the surrogate key carer. this is terrible for itv top brass, isn't it? beyond the show, do you think the management it needs a sevilla sorting out? yes yes, i completely agree. so tenn— yes, i completely agree. so tentn bygon— yes, i completely agree. so kevin lygo, the— yes, i completely agree. so kevin lygo, the director of itv, sont— kevin lygo, the director of itv, sott on— kevin lygo, the director of itv, said an investigation was oonntet— said an investigation was oonntet ont— said an investigation was carried out and nothing was onnsnet— carried out and nothing was brushed under— carried out and nothing was brushed under the covers like oeoote— brushed under the covers like oeoote none— brushed under the covers like people have alleged in recent tons. — people have alleged in recent tons. nnt— people have alleged in recent tons. on t— people have alleged in recent days. but i think— people have alleged in recent days. but i think management neets— days. but i think management neets to— days. but i think management needs to have— days. but i think management needs to have a— days. but i think management needs to have a full re—evaluation of this situation ont— re—evaluation of this situation ont tntng— re—evaluation of this situation ont ontng tn— re—evaluation of this situation and bring in external bodies. non— and bring in external bodies. non — and bring in external bodies. non nonet— and bring in external bodies. wow daniel, what- and bring in external bodies. wow 1 w t:tit and bring in external bodies. wow 1cw t:tit and bring in external bodies. wow 1 t:tit : tic wow daniel, what do you predict will happen with holly willoughby next? eamonn holmes says to dan wootton that he doesn't think that she will reappear on this morning, but he says it's because as of her wanting to protect her own brand, which is brand willoughby , what do you think ? yes. so , what do you think? yes. so i completely agree— , what do you think? yes. so i completely agree with- t:tit woe/7 yes. so i completely agree with eamonn. in neoent— completely agree with eamonn. in neoent neos — completely agree with eamonn. in recent years, we've— completely agree with eamonn. in recent years, we've sort of seen notn— recent years, we've sort of seen nottn ttstonoe— recent years, we've sort of seen holly distance herself from tnttto— holly distance herself from

nntttto on— holly distance herself from phillip on screen as well as off ste-s— phillip on screen as well as off screen. she's gone— phillip on screen as well as off screen. she's gone into complete onennttne — screen. she's gone into complete overdrive. she's— screen. she's gone into complete overdrive. she's changed her sootot— overdrive. she's changed her social media— overdrive. she's changed her social media bios to say she's a onesenten— social media bios to say she's a presenter, columnist and a businesswoman. so i think over the businesswoman. so i think over tne next— businesswoman. so i think over tne next ten— businesswoman. so i think over the next few months, we will stontn— the next few months, we will stontn ston— the next few months, we will slowly start to _ the next few months, we will slowly start to see her gnotnottn— slowly start to see her gradually phase out from this nonntng— gradually phase out from this nonntng ont— gradually phase out from this morning and potentially dancing on. — morning and potentially dancing on. ant— morning and potentially dancing on. ant nene— morning and potentially dancing on.. and we've just- morning and potentially dancing on . . w on ice. and we've just seen the stock market's opening . that stock market's opening. that would be a key indicator, won't it? because if advertisers are pulling their money from itv this morning, that will have an impact itv share price. impact on the itv share price. you'd expect if that starts happening, then there'll be a crisis. talks over there, itv, then yes. so over the weekend we tnot— then yes. so over the weekend we saw that advertisers— w pit; so over the weekend we saw that advertisers had ottegettn— saw that advertisers had allegedly started pulling out of tens— allegedly started pulling out of teots nttn— allegedly started pulling out of deals with itv— allegedly started pulling out of deals with itv and i think that nos— deals with itv and i think that nos teen— deals with itv and i think that nos teen o— deals with itv and i think that has been a crucial— deals with itv and i think that has been a crucial part of the tntnne— has been a crucial part of the tntnne ot— has been a crucial part of the future of this— has been a crucial part of the future of this morning. if like you— future of this morning. if like non sont— future of this morning. if like non an, tnen— future of this morning. if like you said, they start pulling out ont— you said, they start pulling out more and more— you said, they start pulling out more and more this morning, oontt— more and more this morning, oontt stontn— more and more this morning, could slowly gradually phase could slowly and gradually phase out could slowly and gradually phase ont ot— could slowly and gradually phase ont ot on— could slowly and gradually phase out of our screens. _ could slowly and gradually phase out of our screens. . w out of our screens. and i mean, what is potentially also as damaging as what we're hearing about this young man is also behaviour in the back rooms as of this morning and behaviour

towards junior members of staff . yes. so we've heard that oeoote— . yes. so we've heard that people weren't— yes. so we've heard that people weren't treated properly . tnen— people weren't treated properly . tnen — people weren't treated properly . they were told _ people weren't treated properly . they were told not to speak to oenotn— . they were told not to speak to certain presenters,— . they were told not to speak to certain presenters, but oontonstn— certain presenters, but obviously we- certain presenters, but obviously we can't be sure of tnot.— obviously we can't be sure of tnot. nnt— obviously we can't be sure of tnot. nnt tt— obviously we can't be sure of that. but if so— obviously we can't be sure of that. but if so many people are oontng— that. but if so many people are oontng ont— that. but if so many people are coming out-saying- that. but if so many people are coming out saying it, we coming out and saying it, we oon-t— coming out and saying it, we oon-t ott— coming out and saying it, we oon-t ott oe— coming out and saying it, we can't all be wrong. has to can't all be wrong. there has to be can't all be wrong. there has to toe sonetntng— can't all be wrong. there has to be something that's gone on. nett— be something that's gone on. net. oontet— be something that's gone on. well, daniel bird— be something that's gone on. well, daniel bird ,_ be something that's gone on. well, daniel bird, assistant showbiz editor at mirror , showbiz editor at the mirror, thank much for your thank you very much for your input going input today. this story is going to run and run and run. thank you. yeah thank you. now, the gonennnent— you. yeah thank you. now, the gonennnent ts— you. yeah thank you. now, the government is set— you. yeah thank you. now, the government is set for- you. yeah thank you. now, the government is set for a- t/tic w now, the government is set for a legal snontonn— government is set for a legal showdown with _ government is set for a legal showdown with the pandemic tngntn— showdown with the pandemic tngntn oneoe— showdown with the pandemic inquiry ahead of— showdown with the pandemic inquiry ahead of a deadline for the inquiry ahead of a deadline for tne oootnet— inquiry ahead of a deadline for the cabinet office— inquiry ahead of a deadline for the cabinet office to hand over nons— the cabinet office to hand over boris johnson's— the cabinet office to hand over boris johnson's whatsapps and tones— boris johnson's whatsapps and ttontestnon— boris johnson's whatsapps and diaries from the _ boris johnson's whatsapps and diaries from the pandemic baroness hallett. wt:c ”g baroness hallett. the inquiry's chairwoman wants to see unredacted messages between bods unredacted messages between boris johnson . rishi sunak matt boris johnson. rishi sunak matt hancock and dozens of others, including dominic cummings. well, let's cross now to our oottttoot— well, let's cross now to our political editor— well, let's cross now to our political editor darren nooottnen— political editor darren mccaffrey, who's in westminster for mccaffrey, who's in westminster ton — mccaffrey, who's in westminster ton ooot— mccaffrey, who's in westminster for us. good morning to you, oonen— for us. good morning to you, oonen so— for us. good morning to you, darren. so ministers have until 4 darren. so ministers have until a on.— darren. so ministers have until a on. toton— darren. so ministers have until a on. toton to— darren. so ministers have until

4 pm. today to provide all of 4 p.m. today to provide all of tnot— 4 p.m. today to provide all of that material— 4 p.m. today to provide all of that material or— 4 pm. today to provide all of that material or launch a legal onottenge— that material or launch a legal onottenge to— that material or launch a legal challenge to the— that material or launch a legal challenge to the ruling. and tnot— challenge to the ruling. and that deadline. _ challenge to the ruling. and that deadline. it's moving ever otosen— that deadline. it's moving ever otosen .— that deadline. it's moving ever otosen , tsn-t— that deadline. it's moving ever closer , isn't it— that deadline. it's moving ever closer , isn't it ?_ that deadline. it's moving ever closer , isn't it ? it— that deadline. it's moving ever closer , isn't it? it is, indeed. closer, isn't it? it is, indeed. ant— closer, isn't it? it is, indeed. ant tt— closer, isn't it? it is, indeed. ant tt toots— closer, isn't it? it is, indeed. and it looks like— closer, isn't it? it is, indeed. and it looks like at- closer, isn't it? it is, indeed. and it looks like at the- closer, isn't it? it is, indeed. and it looks like at the moment, ellie, the government are not going to move on that deadline, that they are not going to hand over unredacted whatsapp over those unredacted whatsapp messages. now, this all relates baa,— messages. now, this all relates ooon-non— messages. now, this all relates ooon-non son— messages. now, this all relates back,.you say, .the - messages. now, this all relates back,.you say,.the big- back, as you say, to the big oono— back, as you say, to the big oont-tnot- back, as you say, to the big covid-that is- back, as you say, to the big covid that is due to covid inquiry that is due to onooentn—nextl properly start in the next oonote— properly start in the next oonote ot— properly start in the next couple of being led by couple of weeks being led by baroness hallett. she is looking tnto— baroness hallett. she is looking tnto nnot— baroness hallett. she is looking into what potentially might have oonset— into what potentially might have oonset tne— into what potentially might have caused the pandemic, how it was teott— caused the pandemic, how it was teott nttn— caused the pandemic, how it was teott nttn tn— caused the pandemic, how it was dealt with in britain, whether oottttoot— dealt with in britain, whether political decisions were made tnot—oost- political decisions were madei that—cost lives, that may well have cost lives, nnetnen— that may well have cost lives, whether lockdowns were too stntngent— whether lockdowns were too stringent lenient, stringent or too lenient, nnetnen— stringent or too lenient, whether they - stringent or too lenient, whether they came the right whether they came at the right ttne— whether they came at the right ttne on— whether they came at the right ttne on not. — whether they came at the right time or not. and— whether they came at the right time or not. and her argument, nontn— time or not. and her argument, tnonttn .— time or not. and her argument, tnonttn , ts— time or not. and her argument, frankly , is that— time or not. and her argument, frankly , is that she cannot do frankly, is that she cannot do tnot— frankly, is that she cannot do tnot too— frankly, is that she cannot do tnot too onooentn— frankly, is that she cannot do that job properly unless she's got-information- that job properly unless she's got information on in got all the information on in nont— got all the information on in tnont ot— got all the information on in tnont ot nen— got all the information on in front of her at— got all the information on in front of her at the moment . and front of her at the moment. and the front of her at the moment. and tne-onnoe— front of her at the moment. and the-office are- front of her at the moment. and the office are saying , the cabinet office are saying, tott— the cabinet office are saying, not on— the cabinet office are saying, not on o— the cabinet office are saying, hold on a second— the cabinet office are saying, hold on a second here. we do not tnnt— hold on a second here. we do not tntnt tnot— hold on a second here. we do not think that that— hold on a second here. we do not think that that is— hold on a second here. we do not think that that is lots of these messages-entries- think that that is lots of these messages entries from messages are dire entries from nons— messages are dire entries from oonts totnson— messages are dire entries from boris johnson. indeed, boris johnson. and indeed, as you— boris johnson. and indeed, as non-tozens- boris johnson. and indeed, as non-tozens ot- boris johnson. and indeed, as you dozens of other you say, from dozens of other ntntstens— you say, from dozens of other ntntstens ts— you say, from dozens of other ministers is relevant to the

tngntn.— ministers is relevant to the tngntn. ant— ministers is relevant to the tngntn. ant so— ministers is relevant to the inquiry. and so you've got this tnsste— inquiry. and so you've got this tnsste nttn— inquiry. and so you've got this tussle with baroness hallett sontng— tussle with baroness hallett sontng sne-s— tussle with baroness hallett saying she's prepared to ootenttottn— saying she's prepared to potentially take this to court if potentially take this to court tt tne — potentially take this to court if the government is not oneoonet— if the government is not oneoonet to— if the government is not prepared to kyiv which is quite extnoonttnon— prepared to kyiv which is quite extraordinary given the fact tnot— extraordinary given the fact tnot tts— extraordinary given the fact that it's the _ extraordinary given the fact that it's the government who set up that it's the government who set no-tngntn— that it's the government who set no-tngntn tn— that it's the government who set no-tngntn tn tne— that it's the government who set up inquiry in the first up the inquiry in the first otooe— up the inquiry in the first otooe. ton— up the inquiry in the first place. now ministers, many place. now for ministers, many of place. now for ministers, many ot-oentnt— place. now for ministers, many of-behind-scenes- place. now for ministers, many of behind scenes are of them behind the scenes are gntte— of them behind the scenes are onne—ooont- of them behind the scenes are quite-about this- of them behind the scenes are quite-about this ,. quite concerned about this, ostte— quite concerned about this,| ostte—nons aside from supporting boris tonnson— aside from supporting boris johnson tnen— aside from supporting boris johnson, they feel that this oontt— johnson, they feel that this oontt set— johnson, they feel that this oontt set o— johnson, they feel that this could set a very- johnson, they feel that this could set a very bad precedent, nnon— could set a very bad precedent, nnton ntgnt— could set a very bad precedent, which might well— could set a very bad precedent, which might well stop ministers communication,— which might well stop ministers communication, communicating in the communication, communicating in tne tntnne— communication, communicating in tne tntnne n,— communication, communicating in tne tntnne to, non— communication, communicating in the future if, you know, for exonote— the future if, you know, for example, certain whatsapp messages potentially could end up messages potentially could end no tn— messages potentially could end no tn o— messages potentially could end no tn o onotto— messages potentially could end up in a public inquiry in the tntnne— up in a public inquiry in the future. would— up in a public inquiry in the future. would you then be likely to sent— future. would you then be likely to send them?— future. would you then be likely to send them? and i think also tnon— to send them? and i think also tnon tne— to send them? and i think also from the governments point of nten— from the governments point of tnen-ne— from the governments point of view, they're in— from the governments point of view, they're in a— from the governments point of view, they're in a really, neottn— view, they're in a really, really difficult position here. now:— really difficult position here. now,_himself| really difficult position here. i now,_himself has now, boris johnson himself has sott— now, boris johnson himself has stt-tott— now, boris johnson himself has sott-nott on— now, boris johnson himself has said,-hold on, this- now, boris johnson himself has said, hold on, this is not said, well, hold on, this is not my— said, well, hold on, this is not nnn teotston— said, well, hold on, this is not my decision. this— said, well, hold on, this is not my decision. this is up to the oootnet— my decision. this is up to the cabinet_obviously| cabinet office. and obviously tnts—ttoni this is related to those diary entntes— this is related to those diary entries-that- this is related to those diary entries-that are. this is related to those diary entries that are now entries we know that are now oetng— entries we know that are now being investigated by police being investigated by the police ononnt— being investigated by the police around potential— being investigated by the police around potential breaking around potential rule breaking ntstts— around potential rule breaking ntstts to— around potential rule breaking visits to chequers and downing stneet— visits to chequers and downing street. something the former visits to chequers and downing street.ministering the former visits to chequers and downing street.minister hasthe former visits to chequers and downing street.minister has deniedier visits to chequers and downing street.minister has denied is, as prime minister has denied is, as you— prime minister has denied is, as non son— prime minister has denied is, as non son, ott— prime minister has denied is, as non son, ott nen— prime minister has denied is, as

you say, all very tricky for ntstt— you say, all very tricky for rishi sunak— you say, all very tricky for rishi sunak having make these teotstons— rishi sunak having make these decisions, not— rishi sunak having make these decisions, not least of all, oeoonse— decisions, not least of all, oeoonse tt— decisions, not least of all, because if you _ decisions, not least of all, because if you listen to the oooosttton— because if you listen to the oooosttton .— because if you listen to the opposition , they claim that he's opposition, they claim that he's too neot— opposition, they claim that he's too neot to— opposition, they claim that he's too weak to stand— opposition, they claim that he's too weak to stand up to boris tonnson. — too weak to stand up to boris tonnson. ant— too weak to stand up to boris johnson. and in— too weak to stand up to boris johnson. and in the end, that's the johnson. and in the end, that's tne eoso— johnson. and in the end, that's the reason these— johnson. and in the end, that's the reason these messages have not-nontet— the reason these messages have not-handed over- the reason these messages have not-handed over. - the reason these messages have not handed over. not been handed over. okay. oonen— not been handed over. okay. darren mccaffrey, thank you for that update from westminster. all eyes now on 4 pm. that's the deadline for now. the times just gone. the deadline for now. the times tnst gone. stt. — the deadline for now. the times just gone. 8:17. let's— the deadline for now. the times just gone. 8:17. let's bring- :: the times just gone. 8:17. let's bring you up just gone. 8:17. let's bring you no to— just gone. 8:17. let's bring you no to tote— just gone. 8:17. let's bring you up to date with— just gone. 8:17. let's bring you up to date with the rest of toton-s— up to date with the rest of toton-s too— up to date with the rest of today's top stories and the gonennnent— today's top stories and the government says it will prevent nooe— government says it will prevent nooe ots— government says it will prevent nooe ots tnon— government says it will prevent vape ads from targeting young oeoote— vape ads from targeting young oeoote . — vape ads from targeting young people . ministers- vape ads from targeting young people . it. w cc people. ministers say they will drop stop retailers from giving free samples of vapes to children in england as concerns about minors trying e—cigarettes increase. there will also be a review into banning retailers selling nicotine free vapes to under 18 year olds. selling nicotine free vapes to under 18 year olds . the kremlin under 18 year olds. the kremlin claims several drones have hit buildings in moscow this morning . the russian air defence neoonettn— the russian air defence reportedly managed to shoot down ot— reportedly managed to shoot down ot tne— reportedly managed to shoot down some of the unmanned aerial nettotes— some of the unmanned aerial vehicles. moscow— some of the unmanned aerial vehicles. moscow accused ukraine to te— vehicles. moscow accused ukraine

to toe tentnt— vehicles. moscow accused ukraine to be behind the— vehicles. moscow accused ukraine to be behind the attack, but tntn— to be behind the attack, but tntn nos— to be behind the attack, but tntn nos net— to be behind the attack, but kyiv has yet to— to be behind the attack, but kyiv has yet to comment on the tnottent— kyiv has yet to comment on the tnottent .— kyiv has yet to comment on the tnottent . ant— kyiv has yet to comment on the incident . and hospitality incident. and hospitality businesses— incident. and hospitality businesses are pleading with the gonennnent— businesses are pleading with the gonennnent to— businesses are pleading with the government to provide them with snooon— government to provide them with snooon. — government to provide them with more support. cw: more support. pubs, bars and restaurants say their average bills have increased by . bills have increased by. a staggering 81% i'll i'll just share one view on that story, richard said. pubs are an tnoonont— richard said. pubs are an tnoonont oon— richard said. pubs are an important part of- m: t: pubs are an important part of our culture to neto— important part of our culture to neto tnen— important part of our culture to help them thrive— important part of our culture to help them thrive .— important part of our culture to help them thrive . vat should be help them thrive. vat should be sonoooet— help them thrive. vat should be sonoooet on— help them thrive. vat should be sonoooet on ott— help them thrive. vat should be scrapped on all food and drink sennet— scrapped on all food and drink senet on— scrapped on all food and drink served on licenced premises and tnsteot— served on licenced premises and instead lumped— served on licenced premises and instead lumped on— served on licenced premises and instead lumped on alcohol that's sott— instead lumped on alcohol that's sott tn— instead lumped on alcohol that's sott tn snoos— instead lumped on alcohol that's sold in shops at— instead lumped on alcohol that's sold in shops at pocket money onoes— sold in shops at pocket money ontoes to— sold in shops at pocket money prices to deter— sold in shops at pocket money prices to deter people from nootng— prices to deter people from boozing alone— prices to deter people from boozing alone at home. superb tteo— boozing alone at home. superb tteo by— boozing alone at home. superb idea by richard get in touch with the government. that's a common sense policy let's have a bit more of it. richard topman great comment. yeah let us know what you think. keep your views oontng— what you think. keep your views oontng tn— what you think. keep your views oontng tn on— what you think. keep your views coming in on that— what you think. keep your views coming in on that story- keep your views coming in on that story or any of coming in on that story or any ot tne— coming in on that story or any of the stories— coming in on that story or any of the stories that— coming in on that story or any of the stories that we're totttng— of the stories that we're talking-today. - of the stories that we're talking today. gb of the stories that we're - talking-today. gb views at talking about today. gb views at gb talking about today. gb views at to tens— talking about today. gb views at to tens — talking about today. gb views at gb news .com. and— talking about today. gb views at gb news .com. wt: talking about today. gb views at

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here we go. so, so , lampard, here we go. so, so, lampard, a bit of a disaster at chelsea has to be sad, but they . yes, to be to be sad, but they. yes, to be fair, they've acted swiftly . fair, they've acted swiftly. well, have they acted swiftly? well, have they acted swiftly? i mean, mauricio _ well, have they acted swiftly? i mean, mauricio pochettino has nonet tn.— mean, mauricio pochettino has now moved in. but the thing is , now moved in. but the thing is, i now moved in. but the thing is, t nonen-t— now moved in. but the thing is, i haven't there's— now moved in. but the thing is, i haven't there's been no ototnne— i haven't there's been no ototnne net.— i haven't there's been no picture yet. you know, we nsnottn— picture yet. you know, we nsnottn non— picture yet. you know, we usually you would get the ototnne— usually you would get the ototnne ot— usually you would get the picture of the— usually you would get the picture of the manager holding the picture of the manager holding tne-neon— picture of the manager holding the-mean, can- picture of the manager holding the mean, can they not the shirt. i mean, can they not do the shirt. i mean, can they not to sonetntng— the shirt. i mean, can they not do something a— the shirt. i mean, can they not do something a different, do something a bit different, notttng— do something a bit different, notttng tne— do something a bit different, holding the holding the holding the scarf, holding the sntne—tne- holding the scarf, holding thei shirt?_the-old shirt? it's always the same old ototnne.— shirt? it's always the same oldi picture—pochettino picture. but mauricio pochettino has picture. but mauricio pochettino nosno—n- picture. but mauricio pochettino nosno—n .- picture. but mauricio pochettino nosno—n . tntsi has been brought in now. this nos— has been brought in now. this nos-tne— has been brought in now. this has-the rumour.- has been brought in now. this has-the rumour. i- has been brought in now. this has the rumour. i mean, has been the rumour. i mean, enenootn-s— has been the rumour. i mean, everybody's talking everybody's been talking about for everybody's been talking about ton-tnot— everybody's been talking about for-thatllooked- everybody's been talking about for that looked like for months that it looked like he for months that it looked like ne—to— for months that it looked like ne—to oe- for months that it looked like ne—to oe tne- for months that it looked like he-to be the guy.| for months that it looked like. he-to be the guy. but he was going to be the guy. but it's he was going to be the guy. but ifs—and— he was going to be the guy. but ifs—and on.- it's dragged on and on. apparently— it's dragged on and on. apparently he has now signed the deal— apparently he has now signed the deal .— apparently he has now signed the deal . sm— apparently he has now signed the deal . sdll we— apparently he has now signed the deal . still, we haven't heard deal. still, we haven't heard daem— deal. still, we haven't heard from lam— deal. still, we haven't heard from lam ,— deal. still, we haven't heard from him , but— deal. still, we haven't heard from him , but begins in july. from him, but it begins in july. so from him, but it begins in july. sa july— from him, but it begins in july. sa duly-drea— from him, but it begins in july. so july-firstlthe- from him, but it begins in july. so july first the date of so july the first is the date of it so july the first is the date of la deal— so july the first is the date of la deal lee— so july the first is the date of it that he .then - so july the first is the date of it that he then take over it that he will then take over at it that he will then take over al-se— it that he will then take over aa-se yea- it that he will then take overi aa-se yea-dds it that he will then take over. at-so you-it's an at chelsea. so you know, it's an laaeaeedad— at chelsea. so you know, it's an interesting one,— at chelsea. so you know, it's an interesting one, especially for spare— interesting one, especially for spare-was— interesting one, especially for spurs-was about- interesting one, especially for. spurs-was about-say, spurs fans. i was about to say, how are they feeling .7 i know how are they feeling? i know it's a tricky one. and- "dz; ”ail; "lg? i know it's a tricky one. and it's like dae— it's a tricky one. and it's like dae yea— it's a tricky one. and it's like dae you lead,— it's a tricky one. and it's like the you know, everybody's using the you know, everybody's using ale—dalfaleadi the you know, everybody's using the—girlfriend ori the analogy of the girlfriend or whatever— the analogy of the girlfriend or whatever and— the analogy of the girlfriend or whatever and goes off with whatever and then goes off with someone-dal— whatever and then goes off with someone - but then - whatever and then goes off with someone but then again, someone else. but then again, lad— someone else. but then again, lad lea-e— someone else. but then again, lad lede le— someone else. but then again, but let's be honest here. spurs eaeled—

but let's be honest here. spurs sacked mauricio— but let's be honest here. spurs sacked mauricio pochettino. it waea-l— sacked mauricio pochettino. it waeal gelled— sacked mauricio pochettino. it wasn't going very well at the end— wasn't going very well at the end ef— wasn't going very well at the end of de— wasn't going very well at the end of the tenure, which is not a wad— end of the tenure, which is not a wad deal— end of the tenure, which is not award deal l— end of the tenure, which is not a word that i use— end of the tenure, which is not a word that i use very often, dal— a word that i use very often, lad-whal— a word that i use very often, lad-weal ll— a word that i use very often, but-what it was. - a word that i use very often,i but-what it was. .just but that's what it was. so just at but that's what it was. so just al-lae— but that's what it was. so just aa-lae was— but that's what it was. so just at-he was fired.- but that's what it was. so just at he was fired. now he at the end he was fired. now he weal— at the end he was fired. now he weal le— at the end he was fired. now he weal la lade— at the end he was fired. now he went to paris and— at the end he was fired. now he went to paris and human limited success never won— went to paris and human limited success never won the champions league. — success never won the champions league. .dea-a— success never won the champions league. .dea-a ada— league. you don't win the eaampleae— league. you don't win the champions there. league. you don't win the- champions-there. they're champions league there. they're not champions league there. they're eel—and- champions league there. they're eel—and dea- champions league there. they'rei not—and then he's not happy with you and then he's came-and— not happy with you and then he's come-and.does-overj come back and he does live over here.— come back and he does live over here-ille— come back and he does live over lee-llde duel— come back and he does live over here..it's just at— come back and he does live over here..it's just at the- come back and he does live over here. it's just at the moment here. so it's just at the moment ef— here. so it's just at the moment of where— here. so it's just at the moment now of where he's— here. so it's just at the moment now of where he's going to go and— now of where he's going to go and spare— now of where he's going to go and spare ae— now of where he's going to go and spurs are looking for a nanaend— and spurs are looking for a manager now. many, many spurs lane— manager now. many, many spurs lane-desperate— manager now. many, many spurs fans-desperate for— manager now. many, many spurs fans desperate for the good fans are desperate for the good dnee—ledel fans are desperate for the goodi nnen—lean ge times. back under him. let's go bad— times. back under him. let's go back-mauricio— times. back under him. let's go back mauricio pochettino. but back to mauricio pochettino. but tnene— back to mauricio pochettino. but nene-ne— back to mauricio pochettino. but tnene-ne call— back to mauricio pochettino. but there - no call from - back to mauricio pochettino. but there no call from spurs there was no call from spurs anal— there was no call from spurs anal nent— there was no call from spurs anal nent le— there was no call from spurs that went to mauricio and it eeeed— that went to mauricio and it seed by— that went to mauricio and it seemed by all— that went to mauricio and it seemed by all intents and purposes— seemed by all intents and purposes that— seemed by all intents and purposes that he would have been happy— purposes that he would have been happy to— purposes that he would have been hdppy to go— purposes that he would have been happy to 90 back_ purposes that he would have been happy to 90 back to_ purposes that he would have been happy to go back to spurs. but the happy to go back to spurs. but ane call— happy to go back to spurs. but the call didn't— happy to go back to spurs. but the call didn't come. so you cant— the call didn't come. so you ean-a-nln — the call didn't come. so you ean-a-nln le- the call didn't come. so you can't-him to now- the call didn't come. so you can't him to now go . the call didn't come. so you- can't-him to now go . well, can't blame him to now go. well, in can't blame him to now go. well, ln anal— can't blame him to now go. well, ln anal ease— can't blame him to now go. well, in that case, i'll— can't blame him to now go. well, in that case, i'll go— can't blame him to now go. well, in that case, i'll go where i am wanted— in that case, i'll go where i am wanted chelsea— in that case, i'll go where i am wanted chelsea want me now. it's the wanted chelsea want me now. it's tne-ade— wanted chelsea want me now. it's tne-nale ae— wanted chelsea want me now. it's the-rule as well. - wanted chelsea want me now. it's the-rule as well. as- the unwritten rule as well. as far ae— the unwritten rule as well. as far as different— the unwritten rule as well. as far as different clubs are concerned ,_ far as different clubs are concerned , that don't go to concerned, that you don't go to a-neeaaee— concerned, that you don't go to a-because what's- concerned, that you don't go to a because what's your a rival because what's your legacy— a rival because what's your legacy-ae— a rival because what's your legacy-to.like?. a rival because what's your legacy to like? so a rival because what's your. legacy-to.like? so he legacy going to be like? so he eealdn-l— legacy going to be like? so he couldn't-to— legacy going to be like? so he couldn't to arsenal. chelsea couldn't go to arsenal. chelsea is couldn't go to arsenal. chelsea le probably— couldn't go to arsenal. chelsea is probably next— couldn't go to arsenal. chelsea is probably next on that list. a lot is probably next on that list. a led an— is probably next on that list. a led of spare— is probably next on that list. a lot of spurs fans— is probably next on that list. a lot of spurs fans very unhappy

anall— lot of spurs fans very unhappy about n.— lot of spurs fans very unhappy about n. nad— lot of spurs fans very unhappy about it. but as— lot of spurs fans very unhappy about it. but as a— lot of spurs fans very unhappy about it. but as a spurs fan, i cant— about it. but as a spurs fan, i and blame— about it. but as a spurs fan, i can't blame him— about it. but as a spurs fan, i can't blame him .— about it. but as a spurs fan, i can't blame him . well, brian can't blame him. well, brian cleadn— can't blame him. well, brian cleagn nent— can't blame him. well, brian clough went for— can't blame him. well, brian clough went for him. well but you— clough went for him. well but you cant— clough went for him. well but you can't blame— clough went for him. well but you can't blame him. so brian cleadn— you can't blame him. so brian cleagn nent— you can't blame him. so brian clough went from _ you can't blame him. so brian clough went from derby to forest and ladl— clough went from derby to forest and leak anal— clough went from derby to forest and look what he— clough went from derby to forest and look what he did at forest. soldon't— and look what he did at forest. soldon't nay— and look what he did at forest. soldon't buy that— and look what he did at forest. soldon't buy that thing- and look what he did at forest. so don't buy that thing about so i don't buy that thing about going it's about the going to a rival. it's about the club. but look, a two year deal. yes. not a bad little squeeze. lampard the lampard frank lampard, out the trapdoor. where's he going go trapdoor. where's he going to go next? it seems like he's next? well, it seems like he's got the. reverse midas got the. the reverse midas touch. totally > totally. it's walled.— touch. totally > totally. it's walled-lasa— touch. totally > totally. it's worked.-just been- touch. totally > totally. it's. worked.-just been-for worked. it's just been awful for nn— worked. it's just been awful for nn-nenlen— worked. it's just been awful for him. premier league club him. so no premier league club is, him. so no premier league club le, lea-e— him. so no premier league club le, lede ne— him. so no premier league club is, let's be honest,— him. so no premier league club is, let's be honest, is going to nave— is, let's be honest, is going to nave nann— is, let's be honest, is going to have frank-as- is, let's be honest, is going to have frank as their have frank lampard as their nanaend— have frank lampard as their manager unless— have frank lampard as their manager unless then drops manager unless he then drops down— manager unless he then dropsi dawn—anazlng down, does something amazing somewhere else. _ down, does something amazing somewhere else. i— down, does something amazing somewhere else. i mean, if yea-e— somewhere else. i mean, if yea-e a— somewhere else. i mean, if yea-e a nann— somewhere else. i mean, if you're a frank, you'd think, well—le- you're a frank, you'd think,| well—n ane well, maybe punditry is the answer-yeah,- well, maybe punditry is thei answer-yeah, yeah, well, maybe punditry is the- answer-yeah, yeah, yeah, answer for me. yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. answer for me. yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah . should have a word yeah. should we have a word about wednesday ? about sheffield wednesday? yeah. sheffield wednesday. now into—all! into the championship. so all the into the championship. so all nne play— into the championship. so all nne play ene— into the championship. so all the play offs have been great. annee— the play offs have been great. nnnee play— the play offs have been great. three play offs.— the play offs have been great. three play offs. three of them dwe— three play offs. three of them are. two .them _ three play offs. three of them are. two them went to are. two of them went to penaldee— are. two of them went to penalties. this- are. two of them went to penalties. this one was lnenally— penalties. this one was literally _from literally 30s away from nenaldee. — literally 30s away from penalties. so.- literally 30s away from penalties. so. and also it was. it penalties. so. and also it was. n wa— penalties. so. and also it was. n pean— penalties. so. and also it was. it was dean windass son. oh, lean— it was dean windass son. oh, nice. josh windass. and dean is landle— nice. josh windass. and dean is famous nen— nice. josh windass. and dean is famous for his— nice. josh windass. and dean is famous for his goal for hull .

famous for his goal for hull. anal— famous for his goal for hull. nnal wel— famous for his goal for hull. that took them— famous for his goal for hull. that took them up back in two aneweand— that took them up back in two thousand and— that took them up back in two thousand and seven. there we thousand and seven. so there we are-faded— thousand and seven. so there we are,-father, like— thousand and seven. so there we are,-father, like-and- are, like father, like son. and so lean— are, like father, like son. and so now josh has— are, like father, like son. and so now josh has done it. 30s to go so now josh has done it. 30s to 90 -— so now josh has done it. 30s to do . se— so now josh has done it. 30s to go . so new— so now josh has done it. 30s to go . so new ge— so now josh has done it. 30s to 90 - so they 90 oh— so now josh has done it. 30s to go . so they go on and i do feel go. so they go on and i do feel sorry— go. so they go on and i do feel eeny nen— go. so they go on and i do feel sorry for barnsley_ go. so they go on and i do feel sorry for barnsley because nannelew— sorry for barnsley because barnsley were _ sorry for barnsley because barnsley were beaten there, had a player— barnsley were beaten there, had a player eenr— barnsley were beaten there, had a player sent off,— barnsley were beaten there, had a player sent off, was, a player sent off, which was, you— a player sent off, which was, yew lnew — a player sent off, which was, you know, .was- a player sent off, which was, you know,-was ,- a player sent off, which was, you know, was , you know, you know, that was, you know, denareanle— you know, that was, you know, debateable should debateable whether he should nave — debateable whether he should nave _eenr— debateable whether he should have - sent off. _ debateable whether he should have sent off. also have been sent off. also a penalw— have been sent off. also a penalrw anar— have been sent off. also a penalty that they probably enewld— penalty that they probably should have— penalty that they probably should have had. like should have had. but it's like rwlnd— should have had. but it's like tryihglwork_ should have had. but it's like trying work what's worse. trying to work out what's worse. is trying to work out what's worse. re-re— trying to work out what's worse. re-re de— trying to work out what's worse. re-re do ear— trying to work out what's worse. re-re do and en- is it worse to go out on penaldee— is it worse to go out on penalties in— is it worse to go out on penalties in a- is it worse to go out on penalties in a play off final or is penalties in a play off final or re dr— penalties in a play off final or n n een— penalties in a play off final or is it even worse— penalties in a play off final or is it even worse to— penalties in a play off final or is it even worse to go out with ane— is it even worse to go out with we laer— is it even worse to go out with we laer nel— is it even worse to go out with the last kick of— is it even worse to go out with the last kick of the game before it the last kick of the game before lr geee— the last kick of the game before lr deee ree— the last kick of the game before it goes to? well,— the last kick of the game before it goes to? well, i— the last kick of the game before it goes to? well, i quite like rnar. — it goes to? well, i quite like dad —a- it goes to? well, i quite like dad —a gamel it goes to? well, i quite like- that. _a game where that. i quite like a game where it doesn't go to penalty. oh, i do like do it in the old fashioned way. it's almost queensberry rules because you play penalties all the time. play for penalties all the time. it's fans. it's exhausting for fans. well done to the owls. got a of done to the owls. got a bit of tennis for us. yeah, we do. i mean, we can talk- yeah, we do. i mean, we can talk about tennis and— mean, we can talk about tennis and-rrenen— mean, we can talk about tennis and-french open.- mean, we can talk about tennis and french open. well, cam and the french open. well, cam weerne— and the french open. well, cam warden—enr- norrie's, the last, last brit erandlnd— norrie's, the last, last brit standing this— norrie's, the last, last brit standing this like day two standing this is like day two and— standing this is like day two and ne— standing this is like day two and the last— standing this is like day two and the last one— standing this is like day two and the last one that we've got. standing this is like day two anlbecauset one that we've got. standing this is like day two anlbecause we're that we've got. standing this is like day two anlbecause we're not we've got. standing this is like day two anlbecause we're not verye got. standing this is like day two anlbecause we're not very good so because we're not very good on day— so because we're not very good on clay generally,— so because we're not very good on clay generally, so came rnrewgnewr— on clay generally, so came throughout a— on clay generally, so came throughout a tough five setter adalner— throughout a tough five setteri adalner—ralre against frenchman benoit paire in against frenchman benoit paire ln—eer— against frenchman benoit paire ln—eer wn- against frenchman benoit paire

in _set won .andl against frenchman benoit pairei in _set won .and it in the second set won all and it waelall— in the second set won all and it waelall nw— in the second set won all and it was-all now norrie- in the second set won all and it was all now norrie hit was 30 all now norrie hit a rerenand— was 30 all now norrie hit a forehand and— was 30 all now norrie hit a forehand and he- was 30 all now norrie hit a forehand and he grunted as many renne— forehand and he grunted as many rennre players— forehand and he grunted as many tennis players do.— forehand and he grunted as many tennis players do. so as he's hit tennis players do. so as he's nlr ane— tennis players do. so as he's nlr rne ball— tennis players do. so as he's hit the ball like— tennis players do. so as he's hit the ball like this. that was . was— hit the ball like this. that was . was anar— hit the ball like this. that was . was that an— hit the ball like this. that was . , well hit the ball like this. that was . a" l::r7’ well, . was that an impression? well, it was a tribute. yeah,— . was that an impression? well, it was a tribute. yeah, it- , 7 well, it was a tribute. yeah, it was a allure.— it was a tribute. yeah, it was a rnnwre. were— it was a tribute. yeah, it was a tribute. more than— it was a tribute. yeah, it was a tribute. more than an impression.- tribute. more than an impression. so the umpire then called— impression. so the umpire then called dr— impression. so the umpire then called n and— impression. so the umpire then called it and gave— impression. so the umpire then called it and gave and took a nonr— called it and gave and took a pernr away— called it and gave and took a pernr away rer— called it and gave and took a point away for what they would call— point away for what they would call hindrance,— point away for what they would call hindrance, because he's eawnd— call hindrance, because he's eawrne anar— call hindrance, because he's saying that the— call hindrance, because he's saying that the grunt sounded like saying that the grunt sounded llle ne— saying that the grunt sounded llle ne wae— saying that the grunt sounded like he was going. yes as he was nlrdnd— like he was going. yes as he was nlrdnd ane— like he was going. yes as he was hitting the ball.— like he was going. yes as he was hitting the ball. so— like he was going. yes as he was hitting the ball. so tom jones, it hitting the ball. so tom jones, n wae— hitting the ball. so tom jones, n llnd— hitting the ball. so tom jones, it was kind of— hitting the ball. so tom jones, it was kind of like— hitting the ball. so tom jones, it was kind of like that. it was well— it was kind of like that. it was well rnar-e— it was kind of like that. it was well, that's how— it was kind of like that. it was well, that's how i— it was kind of like that. it was well, that's how i came over. so anyway,— well, that's how i came over. so anyway, ea.— well, that's how i came over. so anyway, so. norrie— well, that's how i came over. so anyway, so. norrie so the umpire rnen— anyway, so. norrie so the umpire rnen eard— anyway, so. norrie so the umpire rnen eald dr— anyway, so. norrie so the umpire then said it was— anyway, so. norrie so the umpire then said it was in— anyway, so. norrie so the umpire then said it was in celebration and— then said it was in celebration and warne— then said it was in celebration and norrie just— then said it was in celebration and norrie just said, well, i iner— and norrie just said, well, i just erwnred. — and norrie just said, well, i just grunted. no. and the umpire rnen— just grunted. no. and the umpire rnen cane— just grunted. no. and the umpire then came back— just grunted. no. and the umpire then came back and said, you erwnred— then came back and said, you never grunted .— then came back and said, you never grunted . you never grunted never grunted. you never grunted defere— never grunted. you never grunted nerere .— never grunted. you never grunted nerere . n— never grunted. you never grunted before . it sounded— never grunted. you never grunted before . it sounded like you were before. it sounded like you were eawnd— before. it sounded like you were sayihgr wean— before. it sounded like you were sayihgr wean .— before. it sounded like you were saying, yeah , and— before. it sounded like you were saying, yeah , and i may be saying, yeah, and i may be wand— saying, yeah, and i may be wne nar— saying, yeah, and i may be wrong, but he— saying, yeah, and i may be wrong, but he took the point ewe,— wrong, but he took the point awaw nar— wrong, but he took the point away, but almost inspired cam to earn— away, but almost inspired cam to earn en— away, but almost inspired cam to carry on ahyhe_ away, but almost inspired cam to carry on anyone in— away, but almost inspired cam to carry on anyone in five sets. so ne-e— carry on anyone in five sets. so ne-e eer— carry on anyone in five sets. so he's got another— carry on anyone in five sets. so he's got another french player to he's got another french player re play,— he's got another french player re play, when— he's got another french player to play, which is— he's got another french player to play, which is louis lucas peddle— to play, which is louis lucas reallle dre— to play, which is louis lucas pouille are they— to play, which is louis lucas pouille are they going to start analwerne— pouille are they going to start analwerne ane— pouille are they going to start analysing the grunts of tennis

playeree — analysing the grunts of tennis players? madness- analysing the grunts of tennis players? e players? madness lies that way. it really is. i mean,— players? madness lies that way. it really is. i mean, there's- it really is. i mean, there's eene-rnar- it really is. i mean, there's some _that-sol it really is. i mean, there's- some _that-so loud , some grunters that are so loud, nar— some grunters that are so loud, bar-dd— some grunters that are so loud, bar-dd rnew- some grunters that are so loud, but-did they say- but it's like, did they say something?— but it's like, did they say something? were but it's like, did they say something? _were doing something? what were they doing dunne— something? what were they doing dwrlne—nean- something? what were they doing during—mean, it's- during the grunt? i mean, it's aneelwre—on- during the grunt? i mean, it's absolute _oh, it'sl during the grunt? i mean, it's- absolute _oh, it's mean. absolute madness. oh, it's mean. i absolute madness. oh, it's mean. rrnlnl— absolute madness. oh, it's mean. rrnlnl r— absolute madness. oh, it's mean. rrnlnl r rnlnl— absolute madness. oh, it's mean. i think i think it's— absolute madness. oh, it's mean. i think i think it's mean.- absolute madness. o" i think i think it's mean. but ne-e— i think i think it's mean. but ne-e iner— i think i think it's mean. but ne-e erer eenna— i think i think it's mean. but he's just gonna have to watch his he's just gonna have to watch nle-nar— he's just gonna have to watch nle-nar dr— he's just gonna have to watch his-but it worked. he's just gonna have to watch his-but it worked ini he's just gonna have to watch. his-but it worked in his his grunts. but it worked in his favour. really? because he did well. he looking good? do well. and is he looking good? do well. and is he looking good? do we high hopes? he's looking we have high hopes? he's looking okay, we have high hopes? he's looking okay-claw— we have high hopes? he's looking okay-claw re. — we have high hopes? he's looking okay-claw re. re— we have high hopes? he's looking okay,-clay is. it's going- we have high hopes? he's looking okay,-clay is. it's going to- okay, but clay is. it's going to be dlrdewlr— okay, but clay is. it's going to be difficult to— okay, but clay is. it's going to be difficult to go— okay, but clay is. it's going to be difficult to go all the way. we-we— be difficult to go all the way. we-we-wewal— be difficult to go all the way. we've novak djokovic, we've got novak djokovic, of course. - novak- we've got novak djokovic, of course. novak playing course. now, novak was playing weelerdaw— course. now, novak was playing yesterday. controversy yesterday. little controversy wlrn—rwleel with him. there's no rules and— with him. there's no rules around politicising anything you with him. there's no rules arotori politicising anything you with him. there's no rules arotor do liticising anything you with him. there's no rules arotor do on :ising anything you with him. there's no rules arotor do on a;ing anything you with him. there's no rules arotor do on a tennisything you with him. there's no rules arotor do on a tennis court| you with him. there's no rules arotor do on a tennis court when say or do on a tennis court when it say or do on a tennis court when n eernee— say or do on a tennis court when n re— say or do on a tennis court when it comes to grand— say or do on a tennis court when it comes to grand slams. so what he it comes to grand slams. so what ne-wae— it comes to grand slams. so what ne-wae you— it comes to grand slams. so what he .was, you know,— it comes to grand slams. so what he was, you know, when they he did was, you know, when they enen — he did was, you know, when they enen elen — he did was, you know, when they enen elen rne— he did was, you know, when they often sign the camera they often sign the camera and they leek—we- often sign the camera and they look—the camera,i look up and sign the camera, well— look up and sign the camera, well-ne— look up and sign the camera, well,-he wrote- look up and sign the camera, well, he wrote was, is this well, what he wrote was, is this den-r— well, what he wrote was, is this isn't politically— well, what he wrote was, is this isn't politically inspired. keeewe— isn't politically inspired. keeewe le— isn't politically inspired. kosovo is the- isn't politically inspired. kosovo is the heart of serbia. slen— kosovo is the heart of serbia. sren rne— kosovo is the heart of serbia. stop the violence— kosovo is the heart of serbia. stop the violence . because of stop the violence. because of eenr— stop the violence. because of recent tension— stop the violence. because of recent tension in— stop the violence. because of recent tension in kosovo . we recent tension in kosovo. we knew— recent tension in kosovo. we knew aneur— recent tension in kosovo. we know about serbia and kosovo , know about serbia and kosovo, the recognised— know about serbia and kosovo, the recognised as— know about serbia and kosovo, the recognised as an independent erare— the recognised as an independent erare and— the recognised as an independent state around the— the recognised as an independent state around the world. and arran— state around the world. and anan-sernla- state around the world. and apart serbia, who still see apart from serbia, who still see it's apart from serbia, who still see we were.— apart from serbia, who still see it's theirs. and _ apart from serbia, who still see it's theirs. and anyway, novak plelewe— it's theirs. and anyway, novak djokovic wrote _ it's theirs. and anyway, novak djokovic wrote that on the camera. and _ djokovic wrote that on the camera. and it's- djokovic wrote that on the camera. 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it's not. it's not because we rnar— it's not. it's not because we saw that ukraine's- c it's not because we saw that ukraine's marta keewww— saw that ukraine's marta kostyuk, who— saw that ukraine's marta kostyuk, who played aryna sanalenla— kostyuk, who played aryna sabalenka ,_ kostyuk, who played aryna sabalenka , who's the number sabalenka, who's the number rnree— sabalenka, who's the number rnree-new— sabalenka, who's the number three now, happened three seed now, this happened a couple— three seed now, this happened a couple-add.— three seed now, this happened a eewnle-aee. and- three seed now, this happened a couple-ago. and i- three seed now, this happened a couple ago. and i think couple of days ago. and i think probably— couple of days ago. and i think we've probably got footage of ne— we've probably got footage of rnle—lnl this now. sabalenka won in erralenr— this now. sabalenka won in straight sets— this now. sabalenka won in straight sets .— this now. sabalenka won in straight sets . now, this is this straight sets. now, this is this is straight sets. now, this is this le de— straight sets. now, this is this re we end— straight sets. now, this is this le we end er— straight sets. now, this is this is the end of the— straight sets. now, this is this is the end of the game now. this is the end of the game now. this le—nernallw- is the end of the game now. this le—nernallw you- is the end. and normally you would— is the end. and normally you would eer— is the end. and normally you would get the— is the end. and normally you would get the two players would enale— would get the two players would enale nande— would get the two players would shake hands so— would get the two players would shake hands so sabalenka and weed,— shake hands so sabalenka and keewwl, wne-e— shake hands so sabalenka and kostyuk, who's from ukraine now? keene— kostyuk, who's from ukraine now? keene vea— kostyuk, who's from ukraine now? keene wen-ene— kostyuk, who's from ukraine now? kostic you-she-right. kostic you see, she walks right pael— kostic you see, she walks right paer walle— kostic you see, she walks right past walks right— kostic you see, she walks right past walks right past. she shook nande— past walks right past. she shook nande wlrn— past walks right past. she shook hands with the— past walks right past. she shook hands with the umpire . and now, hands with the umpire. and now, for-reasons , what- hands with the umpire. and now, for reasons , what she's for obvious reasons, what she's done,— for obvious reasons, what she's done, ene-e— for obvious reasons, what she's done, ene-e nw— for obvious reasons, what she's done, she's now this is sabalenka.— done, she's now this is sabalenka. she's doing almost llle— sabalenka. she's doing almost llle a— sabalenka. she's doing almost like a sarcastic— sabalenka. she's doing almost like a sarcastic bow because the erewd— like a sarcastic bow because the crowd are booing.— like a sarcastic bow because the crowd are booing. she assumes rnew-re— crowd are booing. she assumes anew-re eeerne— crowd are booing. she assumes they're booing her. but they were actually— they're booing her. but they were actually booing marta keewwl— were actually booing marta kostyuk from _ were actually booing marta kostyuk from ukraine for not enallne— kostyuk from ukraine for not shaking hands— kostyuk from ukraine for not shaking hands with a tennis player— shaking hands with a tennis player nen — shaking hands with a tennis player from belarus, which you eewld— player from belarus, which you could understand. ' r: player from belarus, which you could understand. r: could understand. and the needed— could understand. and the political reason there being, of course, that belarus allowed putin to take his, of course, tanksin putin to take his, of course, tanks in and put them there in the early stages of the war. the reason russians and belarusians_ the reason russians and belarusians have been banned

fren— belarusians have been banned nen olynpree— belarusians have been banned from olympics and all this is going— from olympics and all this is eerne en— from olympics and all this is eerne se— from olympics and all this is going on. so she's thought, well— going on. so she's thought, well yew— going on. so she's thought, well, you know— going on. so she's thought, well, you know what, our eennere— well, you know what, our countries are— well, you know what, our countries are at- well, you know what, our countries are at war, basically, and— countries are at war, basically, and r— countries are at war, basically, and r wu— countries are at war, basically, and r wlll iner— countries are at war, basically, and i will just i'll— countries are at war, basically, and i will just i'll play aealner— and i will just i'll play aearner yee- and i will just i'll play against you, but i won't shake nande— against you, but i won't shake nande wlrn— against you, but i won't shake hands with you. _ against you, but i won't shake hands with you. that's fair enewen. — hands with you. that's fair enewen. r— hands with you. that's fair enough. i agree- hands with you. that's fair enough. i agree . i personally enough. i agree. i personally rnlnl— enough. i agree. i personally rnlnl dre— enough. i agree. i personally think it's fair— enough. i agree. i personally think it's fair enough. the erewd— think it's fair enough. the crowd-like- think it's fair enough. the crowd-likeithel think it's fair enough. the- crowd-likeithe crowd crowd didn't like it. the crowd leeed— crowd didn't like it. the crowd neeed-r— crowd didn't like it. the crowd eeeed-r iner— crowd didn't like it. the crowd booed. i just think, well, booed. and i just think, well, wnar— booed. and i just think, well, what-thinking?- booed. and i just think, well, what thinking? you know, what are you thinking? you know, rnere-e— there's bigger things. and the faer— there's bigger things. and the rad-ene— there's bigger things. and the fact-she-shake- fact that she didn't shake nande— fact that she didn't shake hands, sabalenka fact that she didn't shake hands,-sabalenka just hands, but sabalenka just just reel— hands, but sabalenka just just reelland— hands, but sabalenka just just tookland then— hands, but sabalenka just just took and then realised she took it and then realised she eard— took it and then realised she eald, are— took it and then realised she said, are they— took it and then realised she said, are they booing and said, are they booing me? and it's said, are they booing me? and we aerwally— said, are they booing me? and it's actually no— said, are they booing me? and it's actually no they're not. rney-re— it's actually no they're not. they're - booing - it's actually no they're not. - they're-booing costume, they're actually booing costume, wnlen— which i think is unfortunate. rne— which i think is unfortunate. rne wnele— which i think is unfortunate. the whole-just- which i think is unfortunate. the whole-just looks. which i think is unfortunate. the whole-just looks soj the whole thing just looks so awkward, i mean, the awkward, isn't it? i mean, the fact just ignore each other fact they just ignore each other at the end there, which is very, very rare to see at the end of a sports game, but then that's sarcastic. bowed to the crowd. sports game, but then that's sarcasexactly. very the crowd. sports game, but then that's sarcasexactly. very awkward.. sports game, but then that's sarcasexactly. very awkward. i yeah, exactly. very awkward. i rnlnl— yeah, exactly. very awkward. i rnlnl rne— yeah, exactly. very awkward. i think the reason _ yeah, exactly. very awkward. i think the reason like- “43?“ lilykirfiiccg very awkward. i think the reason like i say, the reason she did— think the reason like i say, the reason she did that because reason she did that is because ene— reason she did that is because ene-rney— reason she did that is because ene _rney - reason she did that is because she they were booing she thought they were booing ner. — she thought they were booing ner. _eeeane- she thought they were booingi her._became clear she thought they were booing. her. _became clear as her. and then it became clear as the her. and then it became clear as rne—r— her. and then it became clear as rne—r rnlnl- her. and then it became clear as the—i think she's- the reason. and i think she's ene-e— the reason. and i think she's ene-e een— the reason. and i think she's ene-e een er— the reason. and i think she's she's sort of understanding it and— she's sort of understanding it and-eewld- she's sort of understanding it and-could also- she's sort of understanding it and could also said no, and cost you could also said no, rnle— and cost you could also said no, we re— and cost you could also said no, we re ner— and cost you could also said no, this is not something i will do. vea— this is not something i will do. wen knew,— this is not something i will do. wen lnew r— this is not something i will do. you know, i will— this is not something i will do. you know, i will play against men,— you know, i will play against rnen, nar— you know, i will play against rnen, ear r— you know, i will play against them, but i won't shake hands, when— them, but i won't shake hands, which—betweenj which is no animosity between us. which is no animosity between wee—w— which is no animosity between wee—w er- which is no animosity between us._no, of course.�*

which is no animosity betweenj us._no, of course. us. i'm sorry. no, of course. nottingham forest— us. i'm sorry. no, of course. nottingham forest and- nottingham forest and spurs, rney-re— nottingham forest and spurs, they're shaking— nottingham forest and spurs, they're shaking hands. we can they're shaking hands. if we can doimy_ they're shaking hands. if we can delrly eeedneee— they're shaking hands. if we can do.my goodness ,_ they're shaking hands. if we can do my goodness , sport, we do it. my goodness, sport, we leve— do it. my goodness, sport, we lewe re— do it. my goodness, sport, we lewe re eee— do it. my goodness, sport, we love to see you. _ do it. my goodness, sport, we love to see you. lovely to see you well. thanks for taking you as well. thanks for taking us the world of sport. us through the world of sport. always a pleasure. now, still to come, always a pleasure. now, still to apparenrly— ”c: now, still to come, apparently adding dark eneeelare— come, apparently adding dark chocolate-diet- chocolate to your diet can lnnrewe— chocolate to your diet can improve memory. we're improve your memory. we're dndlne—wel improve your memory. we'rei dndlne—we ee finding out more when we go rnrewen— finding out more when we go rnrewen-nanere- finding out more when we go through papers with scarlett through the papers with scarlett waewlre— through the papers with scarlett waddle—were.- through the papers with scarlett maguire myers. and maguire and fraser myers. and rnar-e— maguire and fraser myers. and rnar-e dena— maguire and fraser myers. and rnar-e nen-en— maguire and fraser myers. and that's right-on gb- maguire and fraser myers. and that's right on gb news, that's right next on gb news, ane— that's right next on gb news, rne-.—

channel welcome i channel- welcome back. |cnannel- welcome back. and |cnannel— welcome back. and it's just eenlne— welcome back. and it's just eenrne up— welcome back. and it's just eenrne up re— welcome back. and it's just coming up to 836 today at the trend— coming up to 836 today at the rrenr paeee— coming up to 836 today at the front pages and— coming up to 836 today at the front pages and the times leads wran— front pages and the times leads with ministers— front pages and the times leads with ministers legal wrangle nene— with ministers legal wrangle over boris johnson's whatsapp enare— over boris johnson's whatsapp enare ae— over boris johnson's whatsapp enare ae nan— over boris johnson's whatsapp chats as part of— over boris johnson's whatsapp chats as part of the covid 19 newly— chats as part of the covid 19 newly and— chats as part of the covid 19 newly and ne— chats as part of the covid 19 inquiry and the metro says the elewee— inquiry and the metro says the elewee are— inquiry and the metro says the gloves are off,— inquiry and the metro says the gloves are off, as— inquiry and the metro says the gloves are off, as eamonn holmes labele— gloves are off, as eamonn holmes laeele rnlllln— gloves are off, as eamonn holmes labels phillip schofield a delusional— labels phillip schofield a delusional liar amid a toxic ewlrwre— delusional liar amid a toxic ewlrwre ar— delusional liar amid a toxic culture at this— delusional liar amid a toxic culture at this morning. that, of culture at this morning. that, er le— culture at this morning. that, of course, is following on from ane— of course, is following on from we de— of course, is following on from we en wewe— of course, is following on from the gb news exclusive interview wlrn— the gb news exclusive interview wlrn pan— the gb news exclusive interview with dan wootton— the gb news exclusive interview with dan wootton . ill? c with dan wootton. the mail reweael— with dan wootton. the mail reveals keir starmer is under fire to return money donated by a green energy funder of just stop oil and the i say the eewernnenr— stop oil and the i say the government plans- o c and the i say the government plans to crack down on government plans to crack down en wren— government plans to crack down en wren eyelrne— government plans to crack down on wish cycling urging households— on wish cycling urging households to recycle less in erder— households to recycle less in erder re— households to recycle less in erder re ear— households to recycle less in order to cut waste . venice " lg order to cut waste. well joining us now to go through all of those stories in more detail is the deputy editor of spiked, fraser myers , and former labour fraser myers, and former labour adviser scarlett maguire.

fraser, let's start with you, shall we? the front page of the telegraph. and there's a trans row. yeah so the feminist endleeeener— / so the feminist philosopher kathleen stock is due— philosopher kathleen stock is due re— philosopher kathleen stock is due re eneal— philosopher kathleen stock is due to speak tonight at the extend— due to speak tonight at the oxford union.— due to speak tonight at the oxford union. this the invitation— oxford union. this the invitation of- oxford union. this the invitation of her had sparked an alnlenry— invitation of her had sparked an alnrenry rew— invitation of her had sparked an almighty row. the— invitation of her had sparked an almighty row. the universities leere— almighty row. the universities were eedery— almighty row. the universities lgbtq society had called for it to lgbtq society had called for it re re— lgbtq society had called for it re lee elepeed— lgbtq society had called for it to be stopped. the oxford dnwerelry— to be stopped. the oxford university student union, which is university student union, which re eenarare— university student union, which is separate from _ university student union, which is separate from the oxford unen— is separate from the oxford union debating— is separate from the oxford union debating society, had eeeendally— union debating society, had essentially threatened to ban the essentially threatened to ban we ended— essentially threatened to ban the oxford union from its rreeneer— the oxford union from its freshest fair, _ the oxford union from its freshest fair, which would have neanr— freshest fair, which would have meant depriving— freshest fair, which would have meant depriving it of its funds, wnlen— meant depriving it of its funds, wnlen le— meant depriving it of its funds, wnlen re an— meant depriving it of its funds, which is an extraordinary move . which is an extraordinary move. it which is an extraordinary move. n darne— which is an extraordinary move. n rwrne zoo— which is an extraordinary move. it turns 200 years— which is an extraordinary move. it turns 200 years old this year.— it turns 200 years old this year. rne— it turns 200 years old this year. the oxford union debating sedery— year. the oxford union debating seedery .— year. the oxford union debating seedery . and— year. the oxford union debating society . and all— year. the oxford union debating society . and all because they society. and all because they need— society. and all because they lnwred a— society. and all because they invited a feminist who believes rnar— invited a feminist who believes that biological— invited a feminist who believes that biological sex is real, rnar— that biological sex is real, rnar en— that biological sex is real, that men cannot become women, wnlen— that men cannot become women, wnlen le— that men cannot become women, wnlen re an— that men cannot become women, which is an extraordinary sign of which is an extraordinary sign er iner— which is an extraordinary sign er erer new— which is an extraordinary sign of just how kind— which is an extraordinary sign of just how kind of constricted eneeen— of just how kind of constricted eeeeen nae— of just how kind of constricted speech has become in recent yeare— speech has become in recent yeare .— speech has become in recent yeare. nave— speech has become in recent yeare. nawe yew— speech has become in recent years . have you cast speech has become in recent years. have you cast your mind naele— years. have you cast your mind naele a— years. have you cast your mind naele a few— years. have you cast your mind back? a few decades ago, erwdenre— back? a few decades ago, students were _ back? a few decades ago, students were arguing for no elarrern — students were arguing for no elarrern rer— students were arguing for no platform for fascists. and i remember when nick griffin was due remember when nick griffin was

dwe re— remember when nick griffin was due re appear— remember when nick griffin was dwe re appear ar— remember when nick griffin was due to appear at the oxford unen— due to appear at the oxford dnlen and— due to appear at the oxford union and he— due to appear at the oxford union and he was protested aealner— union and he was protested aealner n.— union and he was protested against it. fair— union and he was protested against it. fair enough. fair enewen— against it. fair enough. fair enewen re— against it. fair enough. fair enough to oppose that. of course . ear— enough to oppose that. of course . nwr needle— enough to oppose that. of course . but people were— enough to oppose that. of course . but people were saying, you knew,— . but people were saying, you knew, yee— . but people were saying, you know, you've got— . but people were saying, you know, you've got to keep these raedere— know, you've got to keep these fascists-campus. _ know, you've got to keep these fascists campus. it's no fascists off campus. now it's no elarrern — fascists off campus. now it's no elarrern _re- fascists off campus. now it's no platform _to give l platform for feminists to give you— platform for feminists to give yew a— platform for feminists to give yew a er— platform for feminists to give you a sense of just how far rnlnee— you a sense of just how far rnrnee nave— you a sense of just how far things have gone . that's why things have gone. that's why it's things have gone. that's why we rneenanr— things have gone. that's why it's important to— things have gone. that's why it's important to stand up for free— it's important to stand up for free eneeen— it's important to stand up for free speech everyone, free speech for everyone, essentially _ free speech for everyone, essentially ,_ free speech for everyone, essentially , don't give inch essentially, don't give an inch to essentially, don't give an inch re-eeneere— essentially, don't give an inch re-eeneere .— essentially, don't give an inch to censors . otherwise, you to the censors. otherwise, you knew,— to the censors. otherwise, you knew wne— to the censors. otherwise, you know, who knows— to the censors. otherwise, you know, who knows what could be neare— know, who knows what could be nexre wne — know, who knows what could be next? who knows— know, who knows what could be next? who knows other ideas next? who knows what other ideas are-re — next? who knows what other ideas are-re lee — next? who knows what other ideas are-re lee er— next? who knows what other ideas are-to be or people- next? who knows what other ideas are to be or people will are going to be or people will try are going to be or people will dry re— are going to be or people will try to silence. _ are going to be or people will try to silence. so— are going to be or people will try to silence. f try to silence. so scholar, turning to you, is this a case of the new feminist movement being anti women? because we certainly seeing people like kathleen stock and a very, very respected academic, you know, not some fly by night merchant being effectively silenced. she's only speaking out for what feminists believe in and feminists used to believe in and that sticking up for women's that is sticking up for women's rights. come suddenly she's rights. how come suddenly she's pubuc rights. how come suddenly she's public number one? no public enemy number one? no i mean, i'm a feminist, right? and i don't agree with her. however, more— and i don't agree with her. however, more importantly , i however, more importantly, i rnlnl— however, more importantly, i rnlnl ene— however, more importantly, i think she she— however, more importantly, i think she she should be given the think she she should be given rne dend— think she she should be given rne nenr re— think she she should be given

the right to speak. and i think we— the right to speak. and i think he wnele— the right to speak. and i think this whole thing— the right to speak. and i think this whole thing about free eneeen — this whole thing about free speech, which _ this whole thing about free speech, which is really rneenane— speech, which is really important, but people pick what rney— important, but people pick what rney rnlnl— important, but people pick what they think should— important, but people pick what they think should be free eneeen. — they think should be free eeeeen. se— they think should be free speech. so the- they think should be free speech. so the government eellewee— speech. so the government nellewee r— speech. so the government believes i mean, rishi sunak has ear— believes i mean, rishi sunak has ear and— believes i mean, rishi sunak has come out and said— believes i mean, rishi sunak has come out and said that kathleen sleek— come out and said that kathleen sreel enewld— come out and said that kathleen stock should be— come out and said that kathleen stock should be -to - come out and said that kathleen stock should be to speak, stock should be able to speak, and— stock should be able to speak, and-ne— stock should be able to speak, and-nle ne— stock should be able to speak, and his his government and yet he his his government nae— and yet he his his government nae banned— and yet he his his government nae learned a— and yet he his his government has banned a chemist, a eeeelallel— has banned a chemist, a specialist, a— has banned a chemist, a specialist, a specialist in in enenleal— specialist, a specialist in in chemical warfare from speaking to chemical warfare from speaking re ne— chemical warfare from speaking re we end— chemical warfare from speaking to his civil servants because ne-e— to his civil servants because he's tweeted _ to his civil servants because he's tweeted anti—government erad— he's tweeted anti—government erwn prevenr— he's tweeted anti—government stuff prevent actually has has prevenred— stuff prevent actually has has prevented two _ stuff prevent actually has has prevented two over 200 people fren— prevented two over 200 people nen epealrne— prevented two over 200 people from speaking at— prevented two over 200 people from speaking at universal stis. so from speaking at universal stis. se aerwally— from speaking at universal stis. so actually free _ from speaking at universal stis. so actually free free speech yee— so actually free free speech ye eer— so actually free free speech ye eer re— so actually free free speech you've got to have it you've got to you've got to have it you've got re nave— you've got to have it you've got re nave dr— you've got to have it you've got to have it both— you've got to have it you've got to have it both ways . free to have it both ways. free eneeen— to have it both ways. free eeeeen den-r— to have it both ways. free speech isn't just about what you llle— speech isn't just about what you he dew,— speech isn't just about what you he wew r— speech isn't just about what you like. now, i don't— speech isn't just about what you like. now, i don't agree with karnleen— like. now, i don't agree with kathleen stock. _ like. now, i don't agree with kathleen stock. i do agree she nae— kathleen stock. i do agree she nae rne— kathleen stock. i do agree she nae rne dend— kathleen stock. i do agree she has the right to— kathleen stock. i do agree she has the right to speak, and i rnlnl— has the right to speak, and i rnlnl rnar— has the right to speak, and i think that people who you don't agree— think that people who you don't aeree wlrn— think that people who you don't agree with also— think that people who you don't agree with also have the right to agree with also have the right re eneal. — agree with also have the right re eeeal. r— agree with also have the right to speak. i don't— agree with also have the right to speak. r:r:::r c c agree with also have the right to speak. c c to speak. i don't think it's a fair comparison, perhaps to compare kathleen stock to war, somebody who has attitudes towards damaging the uk via the

prevent mechanism. they could be on a terrorist wanted list . on a terrorist wanted list. it's slightly different and they eewld— it's slightly different and they eewld ar— it's slightly different and they eewld ar and— it's slightly different and they could at and a— it's slightly different and they could at and a lot of them are ner— could at and a lot of them are ner dend— could at and a lot of them are ner nenr le— could at and a lot of them are not right is there's— could at and a lot of them are not right is there's an awful lot not right is there's an awful ler er— not right is there's an awful ler er een— not right is there's an awful lot of self censorship in universities— lot of self censorship in universities both ways i mean the universities both ways i mean we een— universities both ways i mean the self censorship that you den-r— the self censorship that you don't invite— the self censorship that you don't invite people like karnleen— don't invite people like kathleen and julie bindel but rnere-e— kathleen and julie bindel but rnere-e alee— kathleen and julie bindel but there's also self— kathleen and julie bindel but there's also self censorship rnar— there's also self censorship rnar yew— there's also self censorship that you don't— there's also self censorship that you don't invite people who you that you don't invite people who yew rnlnl— that you don't invite people who yew rnlnl rne— that you don't invite people who you think the government won't ple— you think the government won't he can— you think the government won't he can r— you think the government won't he can r ael— you think the government won't like. can i ask you,— you think the government won't like. can i ask you, scholar, as arenlnler— like. can i ask you, scholar, as a feminist who— like. can i ask you, scholar, as a feminist who represents the padded— a feminist who represents the political left,— a feminist who represents the political left, when , how and political left, when, how and why— political left, when, how and wny dd— political left, when, how and wny drd rne— political left, when, how and why did the political left dedde— why did the political left dedde re— why did the political left decide to take- why did the political left decide to take the position of oen— decide to take the position of we er— decide to take the position of we er rne — decide to take the position of 0.2% of the population at most o.2% of the population at most ere— o.2% of the population at most ere er— o.2% of the population at most versus 51% of the— 0.2% of the population at most versus 51% of the population of wny— versus 51% of the population of wny e— versus 51% of the population of women? why ? and- versus 51% of the population of women? hilly 7’ r: versus 51% of the population of women? 7 r: r: r: women? why? and how did that happen? no i don't see that i'm against women. right. i mean, i aerwally— against women. right. i mean, i aerwally dnd— against women. right. i mean, i actually find it— against women. right. i mean, i actually find it really,— elgel right. i mean, i actually find it really, really errenewe— actually find it really, really offensive for— actually find it really, really offensive for people like you to say offensive for people like you to eay rn— offensive for people like you to eay r-n aearner— offensive for people like you to say i'm against women. no, i'm nen— say i'm against women. no, i'm ner. vee— say i'm against women. no, i'm ner. wee rn— say i'm against women. no, i'm not. yes, i'm asking. yes, you . not. yes, i'm asking. yes, you. rnar-e— not. yes, i'm asking. yes, you. rnar-e wnar— not. yes, i'm asking. yes, you. that's what you _ not. yes, i'm asking. yes, you. that's what you said. i am a tenner.— that's what you said. i am a tenner. r— that's what you said. i am a feminist. i have— that's what you said. i am a feminist. i have been a feminist all my— feminist. i have been a feminist all my lee.— feminist. i have been a feminist all my we r— feminist. i have been a feminist all my life. ijust— feminist. i have been a feminist all my life. i just don't view wane— all my life. i just don't view trans women— all my life. i just don't view trans women as— all my life. i just don't view trans women as threatening. i dre— trans women as threatening. i mean, it's really— trans women as threatening. i mean, it's really simple . i

mean, it's really simple. i den-r— mean, it's really simple. i don't think— mean, it's really simple. i don't think they're threatening, aerwally— don't think they're threatening, aerwally .— don't think they're threatening, aerwally . r— don't think they're threatening, actually . i think— don't think they're threatening, actually . i think that it's actually. i think that it's rernnle— actually. i think that it's terrible that— actually. i think that it's terrible that people who are anene— terrible that people who are anene ane— terrible that people who are among the most vulnerable people in among the most vulnerable people ln ear— among the most vulnerable people ln eedery— among the most vulnerable people in our society are— among the most vulnerable people in our society are held up to be part— in our society are held up to be nan er— in our society are held up to be pan el de— in our society are held up to be part of the bait,— in our society are held up to be part of the bait, the click bait for part of the bait, the click bait rer ewlrwre— part of the bait, the click bait for culture wars. _ part of the bait, the click bait for culture wars. that's what i really— for culture wars. that's what i really nlnd— for culture wars. that's what i really mind about— for culture wars. that's what i really mind about is most of rnen — really mind about is most of rnen need— really mind about is most of them most there— really mind about is most of them most there are extremists on them most there are extremists en redn— them most there are extremists en nern eldee— them most there are extremists on both sides, but— them most there are extremists on both sides, but most of the er— on both sides, but most of the women of men— on both sides, but most of the women of men who transitioned to iner— women of men who transitioned to leer wand— women of men who transitioned to erer wanr a— women of men who transitioned to women just want a quiet life to and— women just want a quiet life to and ne— women just want a quiet life to and be len— women just want a quiet life to and be left alone.— women just want a quiet life to and be left alone. and that's wnar— and be left alone. and that's wnar r— and be left alone. and that's what i think— and be left alone. and that's what i think is— and be left alone. and that's what i think is so— and be left alone. and that's what i think is so awful about all er— what i think is so awful about all er rnle. — what i think is so awful about all of this. okay. _ what i think is so awful about all of this. okay. f all of this. okay. scarlet, i rnlnl— all of this. okay. scarlet, i think we might have an issue with your mic. so we're going to go over to another one of fraser's stories whilst we just have a look at that you. so, have a look at that for you. so, fraser, this is a story in the times about testing ecstasy in depressed yes. so depressed people. yes. so the former chief— depressed people. yes. so the former chief scientific- 3: yes. so the former chief scientific adviser , sn— former chief scientific adviser , slr rarnel— former chief scientific adviser , sir patrick vallance, has said we enewld— , sir patrick vallance, has said we should think— , sir patrick vallance, has said we should think about using eeyenedelle— we should think about using psychedelic drugs to treat depreeelen— psychedelic drugs to treat depression, essentially . now, depression, essentially. now, we— depression, essentially. now, he ldea— depression, essentially. now, this idea has— depression, essentially. now, this idea has been around for a lene— this idea has been around for a lene nne.— this idea has been around for a lene nne. dele— this idea has been around for a long time. he's saying don't yet,— long time. he's saying don't ye, den-r— long time. he's saying don't yer, den-r elde— long time. he's saying don't yet, don't slip granny an eeeraey— yet, don't slip granny an ecstasy tablet- yet, don't slip granny an ecstasy tablet just yet. we need

to ecstasy tablet just yet. we need re de — ecstasy tablet just yet. we need re de nene— ecstasy tablet just yet. we need to do more kind— ecstasy tablet just yet. we need to do more kind of— ecstasy tablet just yet. we need to do more kind of clinical investigation— to do more kind of clinical investigation .— to do more kind of clinical investigation . but yeah, for a investigation. but yeah, for a lene— investigation. but yeah, for a lene rer— investigation. but yeah, for a lene er a— investigation. but yeah, for a lene er a lene— investigation. but yeah, for a long for a long time, people nave— long for a long time, people nave neen— long for a long time, people have been saying that potentially— have been saying that potentially whether it's lsd, eeeraey— potentially whether it's lsd, eeeraey .— potentially whether it's lsd, ecstasy , ketamine, even, they ecstasy, ketamine, even, they end— ecstasy, ketamine, even, they eewld nave— ecstasy, ketamine, even, they eewld nave a— ecstasy, ketamine, even, they could have a legitimate use in weary.— could have a legitimate use in rnerapy. nar— could have a legitimate use in therapy. but the— could have a legitimate use in therapy. but the research is made— therapy. but the research is made more difficult by the fact rnar— made more difficult by the fact rnar we— made more difficult by the fact rnar we nave— made more difficult by the fact that we have a— made more difficult by the fact that we have a war on drugs and by we— that we have a war on drugs and by we faer— that we have a war on drugs and by the fact that— that we have a war on drugs and by the fact that these drugs are llleeal — by the fact that these drugs are rlleeal wnar— by the fact that these drugs are illegal. what we— by the fact that these drugs are illegal. what we don't know at the illegal. what we don't know at we rnernenr— illegal. what we don't know at the moment, vallance is saying is, the moment, vallance is saying lelrnere— the moment, vallance is saying lelrnere an— the moment, vallance is saying is,.there an effect— the moment, vallance is saying is, there an effect after is, is there an effect after aller— is, is there an effect after are we— is, is there an effect after after the drugs- is, is there an effect after after the drugs wear off? eeeawee— after the drugs wear off? because obviously everyone will after the drugs wear off? belfamiliarviously everyone will after the drugs wear off? belfamiliar withrly everyone will after the drugs wear off? belfamiliar with if everyone will after the drugs wear off? belfamiliar with if people ie will after the drugs wear off? belfamiliar with if people get ill be familiar with if people get nen— be familiar with if people get nlen en— be familiar with if people get nren en an— be familiar with if people get high on an ecstasy tablet and men— high on an ecstasy tablet and rnen rney— high on an ecstasy tablet and then they have— high on an ecstasy tablet and then they have a— high on an ecstasy tablet and then they have a horrific comedown the - then they have a horrific comedown the next day, a lot of the comedown the next day, a lot of we nne.— comedown the next day, a lot of we dne. re— comedown the next day, a lot of we dne. re-a— comedown the next day, a lot of the time. is a longer term the time. is there a longer term net the time. is there a longer term ner nenedr— the time. is there a longer term net benefit potentially , and net benefit potentially, and made— net benefit potentially, and dare wnar— net benefit potentially, and that's what needs to be investigated— that's what needs to be investigated . l“ that's what needs to be investigated . " r:e investigated. this sounds somewhat strange, doesn't it, scholar ? i think your scholar? i think your microphone, you're with us. microphone, you're back with us. you're back in the land of the living. we have it before. living. we have heard it before. your mushrooms were living. we have heard it before. your prescribed|rooms were living. we have heard it before. your prescribed ketamine were living. we have heard it before. your prescribed ketamine quite 'e being prescribed ketamine quite recently suggested noted for recently was suggested noted for its analgesic properties but ecstasy to treat depression. doesit ecstasy to treat depression. does it have merit or is it just wacky? i think we have to see. i

rnar— wacky? i think we have to see. i mean, that instead— wacky? i think we have to see. i mean, that instead of— e7 i think we have to see. i mean, that instead of having elaeee— mean, that instead of having biases against— mean, that instead of having biases against it, say that if people— biases against it, say that if eeeele rnlnl— biases against it, say that if people think it— biases against it, say that if people think it can work , let's people think it can work, let's n— people think it can work, let's n dr— people think it can work, let's see if it does— people think it can work, let's see if it does work, because aerwally— see if it does work, because aerwally r— see if it does work, because actually, i mean,- see if it does work, because actually, i mean, depression , actually, i mean, depression, denreeelen— actually, i mean, depression, deereeelen le— actually, i mean, depression, deereeeren re a— actually, i mean, depression, depression is a terrible , depression is a terrible, rernnle— depression is a terrible, terrible illness. ' r: depression is a terrible, terrible illness. r: �*7 depression is a terrible, terrible illness. r: f terrible illness. and if ecstasy can sort of pull you out of it, that would be great. i mean, i have to say, i have— that would be great. i mean, i have to say, i have never- : gherelc i mean, i have to say, i have never taken eeedaey— have to say, i have never taken eeeraey ee— have to say, i have never taken eeeraey ee r— have to say, i have never taken ecstasy, so i don't— have to say, i have never taken ecstasy, so i don't even know aneur— ecstasy, so i don't even know deal we— ecstasy, so i don't even know deal we wne— ecstasy, so i don't even know about the ups and downs. i think edu— about the ups and downs. i think edll eer— about the ups and downs. i think we've still got a— about the ups and downs. i think we've still got a microphone gremlin with you. i don't know what it is. we'll get that enaneed— what it is. we'll get that enaneed rer— what it is. we'll get that changed for you. - c we'll get that changed for you. scarlet fraser, well— changed for you. scarlet fraser, we-ll nead— changed for you. scarlet fraser, well read re— changed for you. scarlet fraser, we'll head to another of we'll head to another one of year— we'll head to another one of year erenee— we'll head to another one of your stories, shall we? the end— your stories, shall we? the awl-le— your stories, shall we? the civil is institutional civil service is institutional rader— civil service is institutional rader-a— civil service is institutional racist-a union- civil service is institutional racist a union chief. racist claims. a union chief. wean. — racist claims. a union chief. wean. .nead— racist claims. a union chief. yeah. .head of— racist claims. a union chief. yeah. .head of-mainl racist claims. a union chief. . yeah. .head of-main civil yeah. the head of the main civil service has accused the service union has accused the civil service of being instituted they say instituted racist. they say they're promoting young, they're not promoting young, black non—white civil black or non—white civil servants the same rate as as servants as the same rate as as white servants. i mean , i white civil servants. i mean, i do find this interesting considering just how woke the civil service obviously is. you know, every day it seems as if you hear new story some you hear a new story about some kind unconscious kind of unconscious bias training that the service training that the civil service has put on. they have has been put on. they have training every letter on the

training for every letter on the lgbt alphabet . yeah, they lgbt alphabet. yeah, they recently did an asexual awareness week, and yet we're led to believe that these civil servants are still apparently biased, apparently racist phobic . et cetera. et cetera. you do wonder to what extent people invite these accusations upon themselves . i invite these accusations upon themselves. i mean, invite these accusations upon themselves . i mean, there was themselves. i mean, there was a very, very funny story in the united states where lots of university is after the george floyd moment, university is after the george floyd moment , declared floyd moment, declared themselves institutionally racist . and then donald trump's racist. and then donald trump's education chief said , okay, education chief said, okay, well, we're going to investigate you for racism. then you say you're racist. it's illegal. it's against civil rights law to discriminate against people. let's put you through the courts. and they said, no, no, no, no, no. we don't mean it like that. we don't mean it like that. we're not really you know, it's become kind of bit of a it's become kind of a bit of a fad to declare you fad to declare oneself, you know, biased to show know, racist or biased to show that you're not one of those racist third time dramatic drumroll roll with emotion. scarlett , i think drumroll roll with emotion. scarlett, i think you are back in scarlett, i think you are back n we— scarlett, i think you are back in the building— scarlett, i think you are back in the building .— scarlett, i think you are back in the building. great. scarlett, i think you are back in the building . great. what's in the building. great. what's year— in the building. great. what's year dale— in the building. great. what's year rale en— in the building. great. what's your take on is— in the building. great. what's your take on is it—

in the building. great. what's your take on is it is this true or your take on is it is this true er le— your take on is it is this true or is everything— your take on is it is this true or is everything just institutional racism? \r:::r institutional racism? no, i ane— institutional racism? no, i mean, the point- institutional racism? no, i mean, the point about it that mean, the point about it is that actually, you look at actually, if you if you look at the statistics , they're not very the statistics, they're not very good.i the statistics, they're not very good. i mean , what they're good. i mean, what they're saying is that if you're white, you stand twice as much. you're twice as likely to be promoted. and actually, so you do need to look at what what is happening . look at what what is happening. and, you know, it's and i think we've got a real problem about about this shying away from i mean , you know i remember mean, you know i remember midwives and people saying and you're more likely to die in childbirth actually if you're black . and they said, well, but black. and they said, well, but midwives don't go in to racially discriminate. of course they don't. i mean, most racism, frankly, is completely unconscious . so actually , you unconscious. so actually, you know, the midwives don't understand the particular thing , but i mean, they think black women are much tougher on pain or whatever. and i think i mean,

i think that when you've got a you know, in the civil service if you're twice as likely to be promoted , if you're white than promoted, if you're white than if you're black, there is a problem and they need look at problem and they need to look at it. you're not as it. but you're not twice as likely to be promoted if you're white working class, for example, class example, white working class boys least likely to go boys are the least likely to go to university any to university of any demographic. the lowest aenlevere— demographic. the lowest. achievers—from demographic. the lowest- achievers_from from achievers in education from from reeenden— achievers in education from from reeenden all— achievers in education from from reception all the— achievers in education from from reception all the way through. and— reception all the way through. and need— reception all the way through. and most likely— reception all the way through. and most likely to end up in jail-— and most likely to end up in jail- se— and most likely to end up in jail- se dre— and most likely to end up in jail. so it's not— and most likely to end up in jail. so it's not strictly true anar— jail. so it's not strictly true rnar yea-re— jail. so it's not strictly true that you're born - jail. so it's not strictly true that you're born white, you're nern— that you're born white, you're born privileged.— that you're born white, you're born privileged. that's actually not born privileged. that's actually ner wnar— born privileged. that's actually ner wnar r— born privileged. that's actually not what i said.— born privileged. that's actually not what i said. _ born privileged. that's actually not what i said. �*lfvlrel r: born privileged. that's actually not what i said. r: not what i said. what i said is that we need to look at statistics. and i think i completely agree. there's no question in about that. class matters . i mean, you know, you matters. i mean, you know, you it is great. we have a prime minister who's of an ethnic minority. but, you know , he did minority. but, you know, he did go he did go to a very, very expensive private school . so expensive private school. so i think and i think we do need to do something about white working class kids, actually. great scarlett will stay with you. snarl— scarlett will stay with you. snall wee— scarlett will stay with you. shall we? we _ scarlett will stay with you. shall we? we haven't had a eanene— shall we? we haven't had a eanene re— shall we? we haven't had a chance to get— shall we? we haven't had a chance to get through your erenee. — chance to get through your erenee. r—

chance to get through your stories. i know.— chance to get through your stories. i know. there's a great rn— stories. i know. there's a great n we— stories. i know. there's a great one in the times,— stories. i know. there's a great one in the times, which i quite llle— one in the times, which i quite llle rne— one in the times, which i quite like the sound— one in the times, which i quite like the sound-if— one in the times, which i quite like the sound if you add like the sound of. if you add darl— like the sound of. if you add dark chocolate— like the sound of. if you add dark chocolate to a bad diet, eeald— dark chocolate to a bad diet, eeald ne— dark chocolate to a bad diet, eeald be very— dark chocolate to a bad diet, could be very good for your rnernery — could be very good for your memory. yeah,— could be very good for your memory. / could be very good for your memory. l/rzzue“ memory. yeah, well, somebody whose by the whose memory is fading by the minute. i wish it was light chocolate as well. so there are food like dark chocolate , apple food like dark chocolate, apple berries that are that are good for your memory. however bad your diet is because is because. and that they do work . and and that they do work. and i think they're called flavourings or something. and the research at reading university shows that this helps. so obviously chocolate for breakfast, lunch and tea will all be better , and tea will all be better, right? absolutely. that's not renew.— right? absolutely. that's not tonight. that's— right? absolutely. that's not tonight. that's a— ” q7 absolutely. that's not tonight. that's a definition, pardon— tonight. that's a definition, pardon me— tonight. that's a definition, pardon the pun,— tonight. that's a definition, pardon the pun, of food for rneaenr.— pardon the pun, of food for rneaenr. d— pardon the pun, of food for thought. a bit— pardon the pun, of food for thought. a bit of a cheesy wann— thought. a bit of a cheesy martin moment there. sorry about the martin moment there. sorry about we ended— martin moment there. sorry about the technical gremlins, but we got the technical gremlins, but we eer re— the technical gremlins, but we eer re near— the technical gremlins, but we got to hear your— the technical gremlins, but we got to hear your your your enlnlene— got to hear your your your opinions all— got to hear your your your opinions all morning. thank you very— opinions all morning. thank you very nuan— opinions all morning. thank you very naen. okay.— opinions all morning. thank you very much. okay. scarlett weeewlre— very much. okay. scarlett mccgwire join _ very much. okay. scarlett mccgwire join us. and fraser layere— mccgwire join us. and fraser myers, tremendous . myers, tremendous. thank you very— myers, tremendous. thank you very much myers, tremendous. thank you very naen . okay.— myers, tremendous. thank you very much . okay. so- myers, tremendous. rrzrg rt. okay. so let's myers, tremendous. rtg rt.“ okay. so let's bring very much. okay. so let's bring us very much. okay. so let's bring ae up— very much. okay. so let's bring ae up re— very much. okay. so let's bring ae up re dare— very much. okay. so let's bring us up to date now— [in e“.rt.“ okay. so let's bring us up to date now with the next erery— us up to date now with the next erery and— us up to date now with the next erery and ne— us up to date now with the next story and it's this— us up to date now with the next story and it's this one. it's

got— story and it's this one. it's eer yea— story and it's this one. it's eer yea eerne— story and it's this one. it's got you going all morning on the gb got you going all morning on the en vlewe— got you going all morning on the gb views british— got you going all morning on the gb views british pub culture is redne— gb views british pub culture is being threatened— gb views british pub culture is being threatened the current being threatened by the current enerey—rne- being threatened by the current energy the average energy crisis with the average pub — energy crisis with the average pub _enerey- energy crisis with the average nae—energy ldllei pub seeing their energy bills eaee— pub seeing their energy bills earee ny— pub seeing their energy bills earee lay a— pub seeing their energy bills surge by a staggering 81% in the last surge by a staggering 81% in the laer year. — surge by a staggering 81% in the last year. yeah,— surge by a staggering 81% in the last year. yeah, well,- surge by a staggering 81% in the last year. l/rt;relt“ last year. yeah, well, pub owners like john allen are calling for the government to take to action help them with the enormous costs of operating their businesses. and john is joihihg— their businesses. and john is joihihg ae— their businesses. and john is joihihg ae llve— their businesses. and john is joining us live now- . and john is joining us live now from the plenald— joining us live now from the piebald inn— joining us live now from the piebald inn in— joining us live now from the piebald inn in north yorkshire. top piebald inn in north yorkshire. rep er— piebald inn in north yorkshire. rep el de— piebald inn in north yorkshire. top of the morning to you there, renn. — top of the morning to you there, renn. rn— top of the morning to you there, renn. r-n very.— top of the morning to you there, renn. r-n very. very— top of the morning to you there, john. i'm very, very fond of landlerde. — john. i'm very, very fond of landlords. i— john. i'm very, very fond of landlords. i also- john. i'm very, very fond of landlords. i also love a good pie— landlords. i also love a good are and— landlords. i also love a good we and r— landlords. i also love a good pie and i love— landlords. i also love a good pie and i love a— landlords. i also love a good pie and i love a yorkshire pint. nar— pie and i love a yorkshire pint. ear defere— pie and i love a yorkshire pint. but before we— pie and i love a yorkshire pint. but before we get— pie and i love a yorkshire pint. but before we get to the good bit— but before we get to the good be, red— but before we get to the good be, led ae— but before we get to the good bit, tell us about— but before we get to the good bit, tell us about the everyday erraeelee— bit, tell us about the everyday struggles financially that landlerde— struggles financially that landlords like yourselves are radne— landlords like yourselves are radne . — landlords like yourselves are raerne . well.— landlords like yourselves are facing . well, it's- landlords like yourselves are facing . �*lfvlrt;tt c t: facing. well, it's multifaceted. i mean, obviously the big one is the utilities . um, back before the utilities. um, back before the utilities. um, back before the price rises, we were paying just over £1,400 a month. that then took a hike to over £6,000 a month. we then had the government help, which brought it down to about £2,000. but

that finished in april, april 1st, and now we're back , um, 1st, and now we're back, um, payihg 1st, and now we're back, um, paying the £6,000 per month. and because we had to get a decent rate, we had to tie ourselves in for 12 months. we stuck with that now until, um, november. on top of that, obviously beer pnces top of that, obviously beer prices have gone up because the brewers have had to put prices up due to rising costs and transport costs. our food costs , we cook everything fresh so our meat, especially lamb and everything that we use in the pies, has gone up. we're just being hit from all quarters. everything's going up and yes, we've absorbed a lot of it and we've absorbed a lot of it and we've got to put a little bit on. but how much are people willing to pay? that's the problem we're finding. and what your problem we're finding. and what year eaeernerre— problem we're finding. and what your customers saying— problem we're finding. and what your customers saying to- �*7 “r: “q and what your customers saying to you, rneee— your customers saying to you, rneee rn— your customers saying to you, rneee r-n ee— your customers saying to you, those i'm sure you've had to put up those i'm sure you've had to put up year— those i'm sure you've had to put up year eaeee— those i'm sure you've had to put up year aneee a— those i'm sure you've had to put up your prices a little bit to deal— up your prices a little bit to deal wlrn— up your prices a little bit to deal with-of— up your prices a little bit to deal with of those those deal with all of those those eve-n— deal with all of those those ever-up costs. - deal with all of those those ever up costs. but how are ever going up costs. but how are consumer is responding to that . consumer is responding to that. well— consumer is responding to that. well. weer— consumer is responding to that.

well, most most— consumer is responding to that. well, most most people- consumer is responding to that. well, most most people are understanding . i mean, understanding. i mean, fortunately, we're very, very busy and hopefully will continue to be so. um, 1 or 2 areas. i mean, we have electric hook—ups for motorhomes and because obviously it's a say electric has gone up, we've had to charge more for those, but we've tried to soften the blow by introducing, um, a voucher scheme. so yes, you pay a little bit more, but you get a little bit more, but you get a little bit back as well to help you to come into the pub and spend money on either pies, meals or been money on either pies, meals or beer. but generally people are understanding, but you beer. but generally people are understanding , but you know, understanding, but you know, they're feeling the costs as well. but the whole pub industry is really, really up against it . i know locally of six pubs that have closed and won't be coming back, they've gone. so it's a sad time. um, and john, eevleaely— it's a sad time. um, and john, envreaely eaee— it's a sad time. um, and john, obviously pubs have- c errelr: c um, and john, obviously pubs have had a rernele— obviously pubs have had a terrible time— obviously pubs have had a terrible time since the aandenle. — terrible time since the pandemic. a- terrible time since the pandemic. a lot of government neney— pandemic. a lot of government money was given _ pandemic. a lot of government money was given out to the neearralrry— money was given out to the hospitality industry. i think deeervedly— hospitality industry. i think deservedly so.— hospitality industry. i think deservedly so. to keep you guys wellne— deservedly so. to keep you guys dellne ve— deservedly so. to keep you guys ticking over some— deservedly so. to keep you guys ticking over some people are eaylne— ticking over some people are eayrne well— ticking over some people are saying, well, we're not a bottomless _

saying, well, we're not a bottomless pit- saying, well, we're not a bottomless pit of money. even if year— bottomless pit of money. even if year alle— bottomless pit of money. even if year ldlle are— bottomless pit of money. even if your bills are going from £1,400 to your bills are going from £1,400 re an— your bills are going from £1,400 to an eye—watering— your bills are going from £1,400 to an eye—watering six grand a newn— to an eye—watering six grand a nenrn. nar— to an eye—watering six grand a month. but what— to an eye—watering six grand a month. but what about other ldeaee— month. but what about other ldeaee ene— month. but what about other ideas? one of— month. but what about other ideas? one of our viewers this nernlne— ideas? one of our viewers this morning, example, suggested, morning, for example, suggested, wnar— morning, for example, suggested, wnar-eardne— morning, for example, suggested, what-cutting vat- morning, for example, suggested, what cutting vat on stuff what about cutting vat on stuff in what about cutting vat on stuff ln-re— what about cutting vat on stuff ln-re neln— what about cutting vat on stuff ln-re neln yea— what about cutting vat on stuff in to help you guys? it in pubs to help you guys? it wen-r— in pubs to help you guys? it wen-r eeed— in pubs to help you guys? it won't cost the— in pubs to help you guys? it won't cost the taxpayer anyrnrne— won't cost the taxpayer anything. what about that, john? i wholeheartedly— anything. what about that, john? i wholeheartedly agree with dad — i wholeheartedly agree with rnar. r— i wholeheartedly agree with that. i mean,— i wholeheartedly agree with that. i mean, to- i wholeheartedly agree with that. t“ i wholeheartedly agree with- that. i mean, to me , the subsidy that. i mean, to me, the subsidy on the electric finished far too early, but some thing like cutting the vat, that was a tremendous help during the pandemic really, really was. and to do that again , even just to do that again, even just until we get where we can afford you know, have affordable utility costs will be absolute superb and i think should be done sooner rather than later . done sooner rather than later. john, what's your concern ? i john, what's your concern? i mean, you mentioned the six leeal— mean, you mentioned the six leeal eaee— mean, you mentioned the six local pubs that,— mean, you mentioned the six local pubs that, you know , have local pubs that, you know, have enur— local pubs that, you know, have enar dewn. — local pubs that, you know, have enar dewn. r— local pubs that, you know, have shut down. i mean,— local pubs that, you know, have shut down. i mean, are you werned— shut down. i mean, are you worried that— shut down. i mean, are you worried that you- shut down. i mean, are you worried that you could see the end— worried that you could see the end er— worried that you could see the end er year— worried that you could see the end of your industry? we are werned. — end of your industry? we are werned. we— end of your industry? we are worried. we are— end of your industry? we are worried. �*lsrlrt; trelt; : end of your industry? we are worried. : t worried. we are worried because, um, fortunately, i think when pubs and not just pubs, restaurants as well and 1 or 2 local hotels and bed and breakfasts have gone as well.

um, i think things are changing massively . i mean fortunately, massively. i mean fortunately, as i said, we've, we've got a very, very busy food trade and we've worked out that if we stay as busy as we have been since easter for the rest of the year, we should be okay. but there could be something else around the corner for what's going to hit you prices hit us next. you know, prices aren't coming down at all. um, so we are worried , um, and the, so we are worried, um, and the, the face of the whole sector is changing . um, but i just don't changing. um, but i just don't know where we go from here. we do need help. the whole industry needs help. and quickly . yeah, i needs help. and quickly. yeah, i mean, john, i think— needs help. and quickly. yeah, i mean, john, i think ,_ needs help. and quickly. yeah, i mean, john, i think , you- : “r: r:. rt yeah, i mean, john, i think , you know, mean, john, i think, you know, many.— mean, john, i think, you know, many. many— mean, john, i think, you know, many, many people listening weald— many, many people listening weald eene— many, many people listening would echo that— many, many people listening would echo that today. we've been— would echo that today. we've been eayrne— would echo that today. we've been saying morning that been saying all morning that eane— been saying all morning that pane are— been saying all morning that aaee ee— been saying all morning that pubs are so much more than a nlaee— pubs are so much more than a nlaee-a— pubs are so much more than a nlaee-a dnnl- pubs are so much more than a place-a drink or- pubs are so much more than a place a drink or get place to get a drink or get eenernlne— place to get a drink or get something-eat.- place to get a drink or get something eat. beating something to eat. the beating nean— something to eat. the beating nean er— something to eat. the beating heart of communities, people were where people were places where people eedallee— were places where people socialise, _ stay were places where people. socialise, _ stay in socialise, where they stay in reaen— socialise, where they stay in reaen-rney- socialise, where they stay in touch,-they stay- socialise, where they stay in touch, they stay warm. and touch, where they stay warm. and it's touch, where they stay warm. and lr-e-r-aer— touch, where they stay warm. and lr-e-r-aer aneur— touch, where they stay warm. and lr-e-r-aer aeear .— touch, where they stay warm. and it's-just about , you- touch, where they stay warm. and it's just about , you know, it's not just about, you know, eerdne— it's not just about, you know, gettihgldrihkr_ it's not just about, you know, gettingldrink, is— it's not just about, you know, getting drink, is it? it's getting a drink, is it? it's aneur— getting a drink, is it? it's about communities bonding regener— about communities bonding together. and— about communities bonding together. and pubs are the menar— together. and pubs are the mortar-holds- together. and pubs are the mortar holds the bricks mortar that holds the bricks of eennanldee— mortar that holds the bricks of

communities _theyi communities together on they aneelarely— communities together on they absolutely mean— communities together on they absolutely mean round where we were very— absolutely mean round where we are. we're very close- absolutely mean round where we are. we're very close to - absolutely mean round where we are. we're very close to the yorkshire coast, literally a two minute drive. and in north yorkshire there are a lot of villages and the centre of the community is the village pub. well you can drive through many, many villages which had a very successful pub a few years ago andifs successful pub a few years ago and it's gone. it's now either a house, um , it's a, it's whatever house, um, it's a, it's whatever , but it's not a pub anymore and it's no, there's nowhere for people to go and it's becoming a massive , massive problem. more massive, massive problem. more and more pubs closing every day and more pubs closing every day and don't really, don't know what the future holds . i mean, what the future holds. i mean, as i said, you know, we've we've lost quite a few pubs around here and there's1 lost quite a few pubs around here and there's 1 or 2 more to go . i know of talking to fellow go. i know of talking to fellow publicans, they're all saying the thing. just can't the same thing. they just can't sustain paying these massive costs for electricity and gas, etcetera as well as the rising costs of food, drink and everything else. i mean, the other thing, of course, which is

not mentioned, which has gone up, is staff costs and understandably, the minimum wage went up and we fully we pay well above the minimum wage because it's important to keep good people. but when the minimum wage goes up, all the all the wages go up. and that's a massive cost on top of everything else . and i everything else. and i understand what people need to earn money, but it's worrying. okay john allen, co—founder and landlerd— okay john allen, co—founder and landlerd er— okay john allen, co—founder and landlord of the— john allen, co—founder and landlord of the piebald in north evenne— landlord of the piebald in north yorkshire. get— landlord of the piebald in north yorkshire. get along there. nazer— yorkshire. get along there. nazer elaee— yorkshire. get along there. razor glass support that boozer . renn— razor glass support that boozer .renn were— razor glass support that boozer . john, we're right— razor glass support that boozer . john, we're right behind you and— . john, we're right behind you and eeed— . john, we're right behind you and good luck— . john, we're right behind you and good luck for— . john, we're right behind you and good luck for the future. wean. — and good luck for the future. wean. really.— and good luck for the future. yeah. really, really— and good luck for the future. yeah. really, really good- and good luck for the future. yeah. really, really good to hear from john. it is a very, very challenging time for the industry as he said, industry and as he said, uncertain times lay ahead, don't they? yeah, but let's raise a glass. the great british pub eenlne— glass. the great british pub eenlne-we-ll— g the great british pub coming we'll have more coming up. we'll have more on war— coming up. we'll have more on that explosive— coming up. we'll have more on that explosive holmes that explosive eamonn holmes lnrervlew— that explosive eamonn holmes interview with— that explosive eamonn holmes interview with gb— that explosive eamonn holmes interview with gb news as he darne— interview with gb news as he claims there— interview with gb news as he claims there was— interview with gb news as he claims there was a toxic culture and— claims there was a toxic culture ad rnllln— claims there was a toxic culture around philip schofield. but dren— around philip schofield. but first, rachel— around philip schofield. but first, rachel eyers- around philip schofield. but first, rachel eyers has your tuesday forecast . good morning. tuesday forecast. good morning. my tuesday forecast. good morning. rly nae— tuesday forecast. good morning. rly le— tuesday forecast. good morning. my name is rachel— : t good morning. my name is rachel eyers and weleee— my name is rachel eyers and vveleee re— my name is rachel eyers and welcome to our— my name is rachel eyers and welcome to our latest gbd news

wearner— welcome to our latest gbd news weather forecast— welcome to our latest gbd news weather forecast brought to you by we — weather forecast brought to you by we wer— weather forecast brought to you by we wed-se- weather forecast brought to you by the met-so it- weather forecast brought to you by the met so it was a by the met office. so it was a nne— by the met office. so it was a fine .— by the met office. so it was a fine . lene— by the met office. so it was a fine , long weekend for many with fine, long weekend for many with elenry— fine, long weekend for many with alenry er— fine, long weekend for many with plenty of sunshine— fine, long weekend for many with plenty of sunshine around. is rnar— plenty of sunshine around. is an eerne— plenty of sunshine around. is an eerne re— plenty of sunshine around. is that going to change much, rneaen— that going to change much, rneaen-ee- that going to change much, rneaen-ee re- that going to change much, though, go to the end of though, as we go to the end of maye— though, as we go to the end of may? well— though, as we go to the end of maya well ne— though, as we go to the end of may? well, no is— though, as we go to the end of may? well, no is the answer with nen— may? well, no is the answer with nren ereeeare— may? well, no is the answer with high pressure still— may? well, no is the answer with high pressure still remaining, the high pressure still remaining, rne-rearare- high pressure still remaining, the-feature of- high pressure still remaining, the feature of the uk the dominant feature of the uk wearner— the dominant feature of the uk wearner ar— the dominant feature of the uk weather at the— the dominant feature of the uk weather at the moment, it does eer— weather at the moment, it does mean we've got some northeasterly winds down east and— northeasterly winds down east and eaer— northeasterly winds down east and eeaerla— northeasterly winds down east and coast. a cooler and coast. so a little cooler nere— and coast. so a little cooler nere re— and coast. so a little cooler here to start— and coast. so a little cooler here to start the— and coast. so a little cooler here to start the day on raeeday. — here to start the day on raeeday. n— here to start the day on tuesday. if you are in that neen— tuesday. if you are in that fresh breeze _ tuesday. if you are in that fresh breeze and as well , if fresh breeze and as well, if yeare— fresh breeze and as well, if yeare-any- fresh breeze and as well, if yeare-any er- fresh breeze and as well, if you're any of those you're under any of those eeaerl— you're under any of those clearer skies— you're under any of those clearer skies west, clearer skies further west, as renaerararee— clearer skies further west, as temperatures will have dropped a unle— temperatures will have dropped a wee lever— temperatures will have dropped a little lower here _ temperatures will have dropped a little lower here last night. nar— little lower here last night. narlrne— little lower here last night. but-the west,— little lower here last night. but the west, that's where we but in the west, that's where we wlll— but in the west, that's where we wlll-rne— but in the west, that's where we wlll-rne eeer— but in the west, that's where we will-the best of— but in the west, that's where we will-the best of the- will see the best of the eanenlne— will see the best of the sunshine through today, as well as sunshine through today, as well ae rne— sunshine through today, as well ae rne nleneer— sunshine through today, as well as the highest temperatures in all-lenerny- as the highest temperatures in all lengthy sunny all of these lengthy sunny enelle— all of these lengthy sunny eaelle-nlene- all of these lengthy sunny spells-highs in- all of these lengthy sunny spells highs in the low to spells with highs in the low to nld— spells with highs in the low to nld zo— spells with highs in the low to mid 20 through— spells with highs in the low to mid 20 through today. now, as we go mid 20 through today. now, as we ee lnre— mid 20 through today. now, as we ee lnre rnle— mid 20 through today. now, as we go into this evening, we will erad— go into this evening, we will eran re— go into this evening, we will eran re eee— go into this evening, we will start to see that— go into this evening, we will start to see that cloud that's in start to see that cloud that's n we— start to see that cloud that's n we eaer— start to see that cloud that's in the east just— start to see that cloud that's in the east just pushing further weer— in the east just pushing further weer rnreaen— in the east just pushing further west through tonight . and it's west through tonight. and it's going— west through tonight. and it's eerne re— west through tonight. and it's eerne re ve— west through tonight. and it's going to move more bodily weerwarde— going to move more bodily westwards than— going to move more bodily westwards than what we've seen of westwards than what we've seen er lade— westwards than what we've seen er lare .— westwards than what we've seen er lare . se — westwards than what we've seen of late . so much— westwards than what we've seen of late . so much of— westwards than what we've seen of late . so much of england and

of late. so much of england and walee— of late. so much of england and walee wlll— of late. so much of england and walee wlll ne— of late. so much of england and wales will be under cloud cover by we— wales will be under cloud cover by we erad— wales will be under cloud cover by rne eran er— wales will be under cloud cover by the start of wednesday nernlne — by the start of wednesday nernrne se— by the start of wednesday morning. so a— by the start of wednesday morning. so a warmer night in general— morning. so a warmer night in eeneral ear— morning. so a warmer night in general, but there _ morning. so a warmer night in general, but there will be some eeaerl— general, but there will be some clearer skies— general, but there will be some clearer skies across northern rreland— clearer skies across northern rreland and— clearer skies across northern ireland and western scotland. so we eeald— ireland and western scotland. so we eeald r-aer— ireland and western scotland. so we could just see— ireland and western scotland. so we could just see temperatures dr0ppih9— we could just see temperatures dr0ppih9 r-aer— we could just see temperatures dr0ppih9 r-aer a— we could just see temperatures dropping just a little bit lower nee.— dropping just a little bit lower nere. se— dropping just a little bit lower nere. se a— dropping just a little bit lower here. so a cloudier start to the day— here. so a cloudier start to the day en— here. so a cloudier start to the day on wednesday— here. so a cloudier start to the day on wednesday for some than of day on wednesday for some than er lade— day on wednesday for some than er lare. and— day on wednesday for some than of late. and this— day on wednesday for some than of late. and this does mean that it of late. and this does mean that n wlll— of late. and this does mean that n wlll rave— of late. and this does mean that n wlll rale a— of late. and this does mean that it will take a little— of late. and this does mean that it will take a little longer for war— it will take a little longer for dad dead— it will take a little longer for that cloud to— it will take a little longer for that cloud to push its way back rewarde— that cloud to push its way back rewarde ane— that cloud to push its way back towards the north _ that cloud to push its way back towards the north sea. but that wlll— towards the north sea. but that wlll erad— towards the north sea. but that wlll eran re— towards the north sea. but that will start to happen as we get going— will start to happen as we get eerne rnreaen— will start to happen as we get going through the morning. but it going through the morning. but lr—lr-ll— going through the morning. but lr—lr-llla- going through the morning. but it_it'll.a slightly| it does mean it'll be a slightly eleadler— it does mean it'll be a slightly cloudier-for— it does mean it'll be a slightly cloudier for western parts cloudier day for western parts of cloudier day for western parts er walee— cloudier day for western parts er walee and— cloudier day for western parts of wales and england throughout the of wales and england throughout rne day— of wales and england throughout rne day en— of wales and england throughout the day on wednesday. best of the day on wednesday. best of the sunshine,— the day on wednesday. best of the sunshine, though, will alwaye— the sunshine, though, will alwayelln— the sunshine, though, will always-in the- the sunshine, though, will always in the west with that always be in the west with that eeel— always be in the west with that cool northeast— always be in the west with that cool northeast breeze still aereredne— cool northeast breeze still persisting for— cool northeast breeze still persisting for eastern coast. so alwaye— persisting for eastern coast. so alwaye-eeeler- persisting for eastern coast. so always-cooler here- persisting for eastern coast. so always cooler here and always feeling cooler here and anar— always feeling cooler here and anal-weer— always feeling cooler here and that-west split— always feeling cooler here and that-west split is- always feeling cooler here and that west split is going to that east west split is going to eendnae— that east west split is going to continue throughout the much of the continue throughout the much of we reel— continue throughout the much of we reer er— continue throughout the much of the rest of this— continue throughout the much of the rest of this week , though, the rest of this week, though, nene— the rest of this week, though, nene-edu— the rest of this week, though, highs-still get- the rest of this week, though, highs still get into the highs will still get into the lew— highs will still get into the lew nee— highs will still get into the low 20s, especially across the weer— low 20s, especially across the

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my my friend. the toxicity is not with me. dan wootton or anyone elee— with me. dan wootton or anyone elee. rne— with me. dan wootton or anyone else. the toxicity— with me. dan wootton or anyone else. the toxicity is— dan wootton or anyone else. the toxicity is with you and— else. the toxicity is with you and year— else. the toxicity is with you and your mates— else. the toxicity is with you and your mates in management.

lamene— and your mates in management. ranenn nelnee— and your mates in management. eamonn holmes hits— and your mates in management. eamonn holmes hits out- and your mates in management. eamonn holmes hits out at- eamonn holmes hits out at phillip schofield in an explosive live interview with gb news top of the morning. it's 9:00 on tuesday the 30th of may. rnle— 9:00 on tuesday the 30th of may. rnle le— 9:00 on tuesday the 30th of may. this is breakfast— 9:00 on tuesday the 30th of may. this is breakfast on— 9:00 on tuesday the 30th of may. this is breakfast on gb news wrn— this is breakfast on gb news wlrn rllle— this is breakfast on gb news with ellie costello and myself. wann— with ellie costello and myself. martin daubney.— with ellie costello and myself. martin daubney. here's what's leadlne— martin daubney. here's what's leadlne ane— martin daubney. here's what's leading the news— martin daubney. here's what's leading the news this morning . leading the news this morning. ranenn— leading the news this morning. eamonn holmes— leading the news this morning. eamonn holmes has— leading the news this morning. eamonn holmes has branded phillip schofield a chief narcissist . in an exclusive narcissist. in an exclusive bombshell interview with gb news dunng bombshell interview with gb news during the sit down chat with dan wootton. he also accused itv of toxicity and of covering up the presenter's affair with a younger male colleague . and the younger male colleague. and the government is heading— younger male colleague. and the government is heading for- government is heading for a leeal— government is heading for a leeal lawle— government is heading for a legal battle with the pandemic rndalry— legal battle with the pandemic rnearry ve— legal battle with the pandemic inquiry over the— legal battle with the pandemic inquiry over the release of nene— inquiry over the release of boris johnson's— inquiry over the release of boris johnson's whatsapp messages. today ministers will dedde— messages. today ministers will decide whether— messages. today ministers will decide whether to _ messages. today ministers will decide whether to launch a ladldal— decide whether to launch a judicial review— decide whether to launch a judicial review in an attempt to weld— judicial review in an attempt to aveld navlne— judicial review in an attempt to avoid having to— judicial review in an attempt to avoid having to hand over the eeeaeee and— avoid having to hand over the messages and diaries. and that's endeared— messages and diaries. and that's evaeeled ar— messages and diaries. and that's expected at 4:00— messages and diaries. and that's expected at 4:00 today. . expected at 4:00 today. labour weald— expected at 4:00 today. labour weald allev— expected at 4:00 today. labour would allow local authorities to buy land cheaply if they intend to build on it as part of a plan to build on it as part of a plan to ease the housing crisis. it

comes amid reports that tory donor property developers are withholding funds in protest of the government's failure to build houses. the government's failure to build houses . and pub and build houses. and pub and restaurant owners are urging the government for support after they saw energy bills soar by a staggering 81. less than a third of staggering 81. less than a third er neeprralrry— 33 “g 8 less than a third of hospitality businesses are eadnlede— of hospitality businesses are optimistic about their future, aeeerdlne— optimistic about their future, aeeerdlnere— optimistic about their future, according to industry bodies , according to industry bodies, and— according to industry bodies, and de— according to industry bodies, and de leea— according to industry bodies, and do keep on— according to industry bodies, and do keep on getting in touch. via and do keep on getting in touch. we wear— and do keep on getting in touch. we wear an— and do keep on getting in touch. via twitter gb news.— and do keep on getting in touch. via twitter gb news. or- and do keep on getting in touch. via twitter gb news. or you- and do keep on getting in touch. . life \ rt.el“ via twitter gb news. or you can email us gb views at gb news .com. lots of you getting in touch this morning. we had a debate earlier about whether police should be tasked with deaung police should be tasked with dealing with mental health emergencies . lots of you getting emergencies. lots of you getting in touch on that story. batus says no way should police deal with mental health. they are there for crime. they are not part time social workers. yeah 37,000 calls for mental health issues every year. and coppers are issues every year. and coppers relllne— issues every year. and coppers relllne ae— issues every year. and coppers are telling us they— ”g and coppers are telling us they don't want to are telling us they don't want re re— are telling us they don't want re be a— are telling us they don't want to be a social— are telling us they don't want to be a social service. they wand— to be a social service. they wanr re— to be a social service. they wanr re ee— to be a social service. they wanr re be a— to be a social service. they want to be a emergency service. and— want to be a emergency service. and even—

want to be a emergency service. and even areeee— want to be a emergency service. and gwen agrees, saying the sananrane— and gwen agrees, saying the samaritans might be a better bet rnan— samaritans might be a better bet rnan ane— samaritans might be a better bet than the police. _ samaritans might be a better bet than the police. l/rt;rel“ samaritans might be a better bet than the police. / samaritans might be a better bet than the police. l/rt;rel“ than the police. yeah, but, says , i think it's correct that police respond for mental police don't respond for mental health unless life health unless it's life threatening . and mel threatening. and mel in sunderland if someone has sunderland says if someone has mental issues, they mental health issues, they should be able to call a gp, but they can't. so they have to call they can't. so they have to call the police. help should be available from the right sector. mental health is not a police problem. we'll do keep your views coming in this morning. gb views .com . now to our views gb news .com. now to our top story . an eamonn holmes has top story. an eamonn holmes has claimed there was a total cover up over phillip schofield's affair with a younger man. in an exclusive interview with gb news anditv exclusive interview with gb news and itv has denied the allegations, saying that they investigated when rumours of a relationship first surfaced. but both parties categorically and— but both parties categorically and repeatedly— but both parties categorically and repeatedly denied them well in and repeatedly denied them well n a— and repeatedly denied them well ln a err— and repeatedly denied them well n a er dewn— and repeatedly denied them well in a sit down interview with dan weerren— in a sit down interview with dan wootton eamonn— in a sit down interview with dan wootton eamonn also called out wnar— wootton eamonn also called out wnar ne— wootton eamonn also called out wnar ne eaw— wootton eamonn also called out what he saw as— wootton eamonn also called out what he saw as a— wootton eamonn also called out what he saw as a culture of deadly— what he saw as a culture of ready ar— what he saw as a culture of

toxicity at this— what he saw as a culture of toxicity at this morning. let's dale— toxicity at this morning. let's dale a— toxicity at this morning. let's take a listen— toxicity at this morning. let's take a listen .— toxicity at this morning. let's take a listen . in— toxicity at this morning. let's take a listen . in life,- toxicity at this morning. let's take a listen . in life, i have take a listen. in life, i have always had this belief that a lie unchallenged becomes the truth. so although i don't want to truth. so although i don't want re erand— truth. so although i don't want re erand up— truth. so although i don't want re erand up re— so although i don't want to stand up to schofield eeneranrly— to stand up to schofield constantly pointing out where ne-e— constantly pointing out where ne-e lyrne— constantly pointing out where ne-e lyrne .— constantly pointing out where ne-e lyrne . r— constantly pointing out where he's lying , i feel— constantly pointing out where he's lying , i feel i have to. is he's lying, i feel i have to. is he's lying, i feel i have to. is he delusional?— he's lying, i feel i have to. is he delusional? does he imagine the he delusional? does he imagine rne er— he delusional? does he imagine rne er le— he delusional? does he imagine rne er re ne— he delusional? does he imagine the or is he so— he delusional? does he imagine the or is he so detached from real— the or is he so detached from real dre— the or is he so detached from real llre ar— the or is he so detached from real life at this— the or is he so detached from real life at this morning that he real life at this morning that ne dldn-r— real life at this morning that he didn't realise— real life at this morning that he didn't realise what was going on? he didn't realise what was going ene r— he didn't realise what was going ene r enen— he didn't realise what was going ene r enen eay— he didn't realise what was going on? i often say this— he didn't realise what was going on? i often say this to ruth. i eard— on? i often say this to ruth. i eald mayne— on? i often say this to ruth. i said maybe he— on? i often say this to ruth. i said maybe he believes all this erarl — said maybe he believes all this erarl mayne— said maybe he believes all this stuff. maybe he— said maybe he believes all this stuff. maybe he did not see what wenr— stuff. maybe he did not see what wenr en— stuff. maybe he did not see what went on, actually,— stuff. maybe he did not see what went on, actually, because rnere-e— went on, actually, because there's something wrong with him . ear— there's something wrong with him . ear ne— there's something wrong with him . ear ne le— there's something wrong with him an ne le de— there's something wrong with him . but he is the chief narcissist. - . but he is the chief narcissist. he is a complete . but he is the chief— narcissist. he is a complete and aner— narcissist. he is a complete and are dyed— narcissist. he is a complete and are dyed rn— narcissist. he is a complete and utter dyed in the— narcissist. he is a complete and utter dyed in the wool narcissist _ utter dyed in the wool narcissist .— utter dyed in the wool narcissist . everything is about narcissist. everything is about nn— narcissist. everything is about nln . — narcissist. everything is about nln . whar— narcissist. everything is about him. what did— narcissist. everything is about him . what did you- narcissist. everything is about him. what did you know about this young man? because he was there a lot. he's been pictured on the sofa as a very young teenager sitting in between holly willoughby and phillip schofield . and then i remember

schofield. and then i remember working at itv daytime , and he working at itv daytime, and he was a non—negotiable part of philip's life. sometimes there would even be taxis ferrying this young man between the studio and philip's house. so what did you know about him before he was moved on to loose women? i didn't know, but i've subsequently found out from a very, very good source because he would arrive much earlier in the morning than i would for the programme he was delivered programme that he was delivered from philip's london home. usually on a friday morning, eeaee— usually on a friday morning, because thursday was playtime wnen— because thursday was playtime wnen ne— because thursday was playtime wnen ne and— because thursday was playtime when he and phillip would hit the when he and phillip would hit rne dewn— when he and phillip would hit the town and— when he and phillip would hit the town and then he obviously erayed— the town and then he obviously stayed overnight— the town and then he obviously stayed overnight and there are reeered— stayed overnight and there are reede re— stayed overnight and there are records to show— stayed overnight and there are records to show that he was ereaenr— records to show that he was ereaenr rn— records to show that he was brought in the— records to show that he was brought in the next day eeeararely— brought in the next day separately in- brought in the next day separately in cars paid for by ne— separately in cars paid for by .w, eare— separately in cars paid for by .w, eard— separately in cars paid for by itv, cars paid for— separately in cars paid for by itv, cars paid for by itv. so we— itv, cars paid for by itv. so the management would have had to nave— the management would have had to nave-areal— the management would have had to have-about that,— the management would have had to have about that, wouldn't have known about that, wouldn't e...— have known about that, wouldn't rney. leee— have known about that, wouldn't they, unless philip— have known about that, wouldn't they, unless philip paid the ell— they, unless philip paid the bill separately.— they, unless philip paid the bill separately. would bill separately. but it would end— bill separately. but it would edll-ee— bill separately. but it would still-go through- bill separately. but it would still go through the still have to go through the- accounts—would accounts office that they would nave —lnewn- accounts office that they would have _ known that have seen that and known that it's have seen that and known that lr-elreral— have seen that and known that it'sltotal cover— have seen that and known that it'sltotal cover up— have seen that and known that

it's total cover up and those it's a total cover up and those in it's a total cover up and those ln aarnenry— it's a total cover up and those in authority had— it's a total cover up and those in authority had to know. they nad— in authority had to know. they nad re— in authority had to know. they nad re knew— in authority had to know. they had to know what— in authority had to know. they had to know what was going on. and— had to know what was going on. and-rneaenr— had to know what was going on. and .thought they- had to know what was going on. and thought they would and they thought they would dedee — and they thought they would dedee a— and they thought they would dodge a bullet— and they thought they would dodge a bullet with this, which rney—de. — dodge a bullet with this, which rney—de. and- dodge a bullet with this, which they—do. and they. dodge a bullet with this, which they do. and they do they which they do. and they do eeneranrly— they which they do. and they do constantly because with schofield _ constantly because with schofield talking about those wne— schofield talking about those wne eneal— schofield talking about those who speak out— schofield talking about those who speak out against him, namely— who speak out against him, nanely ne— who speak out against him, nanely ne .— who speak out against him, namely me , amanda holden and you namely me, amanda holden and you . yea-ll— namely me, amanda holden and you . yea-ll ee— namely me, amanda holden and you , you'll be included— namely me, amanda holden and you , you'll be included in— namely me, amanda holden and you , you'll be included in the deadly— , you'll be included in the toxicity that _ , you'll be included in the toxicity that goes on. l ?e“ toxicity that goes on. dr. ranj toxicity that goes on. dr. ranj e or. — toxicity that goes on. dr. ranj e or. lane— toxicity that goes on. dr. ranj to dr. ranj, of course, as well . ithink to dr. ranj, of course, as well . i think philip is i think philip is absolutely . i think philip is absolutely dend— . i think philip is absolutely nenr aneur— i think philip is absolutely right about toxicity, but my rnend— right about toxicity, but my friend said— right about toxicity, but my friend said the— right about toxicity, but my friend said the toxicity is not wran— friend said the toxicity is not wlrn nne— friend said the toxicity is not wlrn ean— friend said the toxicity is not with me, dan wootton or anyone elee— with me, dan wootton or anyone elee .— with me, dan wootton or anyone elee . rne— with me, dan wootton or anyone else . the toxicity— with me, dan wootton or anyone else . the toxicity is— with me, dan wootton or anyone else . the toxicity is with you else. the toxicity is with you and— else. the toxicity is with you and year— else. the toxicity is with you and your mates— else. the toxicity is with you and your mates in management and everyeedy— and your mates in management and everyeedy wne— and your mates in management and everyeedy wne leer— and your mates in management and everybody who kept you in power and n— everybody who kept you in power and in abusive— everybody who kept you in power and in abusive power for so long and— and in abusive power for so long and n— and in abusive power for so long and n rn— and in abusive power for so long and n r-n earlry— and in abusive power for so long and if i'm guilty of— and in abusive power for so long and if i'm guilty of anything, it's and if i'm guilty of anything, we eaealrne— and if i'm guilty of anything, we eeealrne bp— and if i'm guilty of anything, it's speaking up for all those researchers— it's speaking up for all those researchers who— it's speaking up for all those researchers who you ignored, all rneee— researchers who you ignored, all those producers— researchers who you ignored, all those producers who you treated like those producers who you treated llle dd.— those producers who you treated llle dln. all— those producers who you treated like dirt, all those— those producers who you treated like dirt, all those people who are like dirt, all those people who revdne— like dirt, all those people who are texting and— like dirt, all those people who are texting and phoning me and pan— are texting and phoning me and pan weerren— are texting and phoning me and dan wootton and— are texting and phoning me and dan wootton and saying, we feel enaewered— dan wootton and saying, we feel now empowered to— dan wootton and saying, we feel now empowered to come out and tell now empowered to come out and led me— now empowered to come out and led rne nande— now empowered to come out and tell the public the— now empowered to come out and tell the public the truth, eeaee— tell the public the truth, because the _ tell the public the truth, because the truth is the public ean-r— because the truth is the public and nandle— because the truth is the public can't handle the— because the truth is the public can't handle the truth the

nande— can't handle the truth the paella den-r— can't handle the truth the public don't want. they think yeare— public don't want. they think yeare a— public don't want. they think you're a little— public don't want. they think you're a little broom cupboard nereen— you're a little broom cupboard aeeen and— you're a little broom cupboard person. and they— you're a little broom cupboard person. and they grew up with you— person. and they grew up with yea-yeare— person. and they grew up with you-you're lovely- person. and they grew up with you you're lovely you're you and you're lovely and you're aderaele—nar- you and you're lovely and you're adorable—but youi adorable and whatever, but you let adorable and whatever, but you led—and— adorable and whatever, but you led—and year- adorable and whatever, but you let and your power let your fame and your power eerranr— let your fame and your power eerraar yea— let your fame and your power corrupt you and. _ let your fame and your power corrupt you and. and that's wnere— corrupt you and. and that's where we're at— corrupt you and. and that's where we're at today . and if i'm where we're at today. and if i'm eallry— where we're at today. and if i'm earlry er— where we're at today. and if i'm guilty of anything,— where we're at today. and if i'm guilty of anything, it's guilty of guilty of anything, it's guilty er eveeelne— guilty of anything, it's guilty er eveeerne yea— guilty of anything, it's guilty of exposing you . well an of exposing you. well an eveleelve— of exposing you. well an explosive interview there with gb explosive interview there with en wewe. — explosive interview there with gb news. and— explosive interview there with gb news. and in— explosive interview there with gb news. “r: t“ gb news. and in response to that, an itv spokesperson has said further to our statement on saturday, itv can confirm the when rumours of a relationship between phillip schofield and an employee of itv first began to circulate in early 2020. itv investigated both parties were questioned and both categorically and repeatedly denied the rumours , as did denied the rumours, as did philip's then agency , wiremu. in philip's then agency, wiremu. in addition , itv spoke to a number addition, itv spoke to a number of people who worked on this morning and were not provided with and did not find any evidence of a relationship beyond hearsay and rumour. philip's statement on friday reveals that he lied to people

at itv from senior management to fellow presenters to ymu to the media and to the others over this relationship . well, joining this relationship. well, joining us now is our reporter- well, joining us now is our reporter rae addleen— us now is our reporter rae addison, who's— us now is our reporter rae addison, who's outside television— addison, who's outside television centre in west lenden— television centre in west london, where - television centre in west london, where this morning is filmed— london, where this morning is filmed .— london, where this morning is filmed . good— london, where this morning is filmed . good morning to you, filmed. good morning to you, nae. — filmed. good morning to you, nae. ee— filmed. good morning to you, rae. so there's— filmed. good morning to you, rae. so there's going to be no rnlllln— rae. so there's going to be no enrllra reday— rae. so there's going to be no enrllra reday .— rae. so there's going to be no phillip today , no— rae. so there's going to be no phillip today , no holly. but the phillip today, no holly. but the enew— phillip today, no holly. but the enew deee— phillip today, no holly. but the enew deee ee— phillip today, no holly. but the enew deee ee .— phillip today, no holly. but the show does go . on l/rt;~er c: show does go. on yes. good morning to you both. itv senior management, no doubt in crisis talks today and wondering. yes , talks today and wondering. yes, the show will be going “r; yes, the show will be going ahead reday— the show will be going ahead reday .— the show will be going ahead reday . ear— the show will be going ahead today , but how— the show will be going ahead today , but how much longer will today, but how much longer will rnar— today, but how much longer will rnar ee— today, but how much longer will rnar lee dawne— today, but how much longer will that be taking place, especially ee— that be taking place, especially rneee— that be taking place, especially since these shocking revelations? - since these shocking revelations? eamonn holmes elaeve— revelations? eamonn holmes exclusive interview with gb news lviv exclusive interview with gb news lvlv laer— exclusive interview with gb news lvlv laer nlenr— exclusive interview with gb news lviv last night saying that in his lviv last night saying that in we enlnlen— lviv last night saying that in we opihibh .— lviv last night saying that in his opinion , itv— lviv last night saying that in his opinion , itv must have known his opinion, itv must have known wnar— his opinion, itv must have known wnar wae— his opinion, itv must have known wnar eerne— his opinion, itv must have known what was going on.— his opinion, itv must have known what was going on. of course . what was going on. of course. raenn— what was going on. of course. eamonn revealing— what was going on. of course. eamonn revealing details of rneee— eamonn revealing details of these so—called_ eamonn revealing details of these so—called thursday plates . dnee— these so—called thursday plates .dnee wnere— these so—called thursday plates , times where schofield would get , times where schofield would eer err— , times where schofield would eer err rer— , times where schofield would get off for the _ , times where schofield would get off for the weekend and go out get off for the weekend and go ear wlrn—

get off for the weekend and go out with this— get off for the weekend and go out with this his— get off for the weekend and go out with this his young male mend.— out with this his young male rnend. and— out with this his young male friend. and then— out with this his young male friend. and then this young man weald— friend. and then this young man weald rnen— friend. and then this young man would then be— friend. and then this young man would then be taken by taxi from senedeld-e— would then be taken by taxi from schofield's home.— would then be taken by taxi from schofield's home. the following nernlne— schofield's home. the following nernlne re— schofield's home. the following nernrne re rne— schofield's home. the following morning to the this morning eradlee.— morning to the this morning studios. now— morning to the this morning studios. now of— morning to the this morning studios. now of course, itv are eaylne— studios. now of course, itv are eayrne anar— studios. now of course, itv are eayrne rnar rney— studios. now of course, itv are saying that they were warned of this saying that they were warned of he arran— saying that they were warned of this affair three _ saying that they were warned of this affair three years ago, but rney— this affair three years ago, but they launched— this affair three years ago, but they launched an— this affair three years ago, but they launched an investigation, rney— they launched an investigation, rney eay— they launched an investigation, rney eay. and— they launched an investigation, they say, and they found no evldenee— they say, and they found no evidence of— they say, and they found no evidence of that— they say, and they found no evidence of that beyond rumour and— evidence of that beyond rumour and neareay.— evidence of that beyond rumour and hearsay. now— evidence of that beyond rumour and hearsay. now of course, that neee— and hearsay. now of course, that neee rne— and hearsay. now of course, that begs the question,— and hearsay. now of course, that begs the question, was that rneenaerenr— begs the question, was that incompetent investigation or or rr— incompetent investigation or or was it something— incompetent investigation or or was it something perhaps worse , was it something perhaps worse, a delleerare— was it something perhaps worse, a deliberate cover— was it something perhaps worse, a deliberate cover up and that's the a deliberate cover up and that's rne daeeden— a deliberate cover up and that's the question that's— a deliberate cover up and that's the question that's being asked rne— the question that's being asked across the nation— the question that's being asked across the nation today. now, of course, eamonn holmes is denandlne— course, eamonn holmes is demanding that the records of war— demanding that the records of that investigation be released to that investigation be released re ane— that investigation be released re rne paella. — that investigation be released to the public. so— that investigation be released to the public. so that we can r-aer— to the public. so that we can r-aer new— to the public. so that we can see just how thorough it was. he alee— see just how thorough it was. he alee eaye— see just how thorough it was. he alee eaye nle— see just how thorough it was. he also says his phone— see just how thorough it was. he also says his phone is overflowing - also says his phone is overflowing with messages from tenner— overflowing with messages from rerrner and— overflowing with messages from former and current— overflowing with messages from former and current itv staff people— former and current itv staff eeeale en— former and current itv staff eeeale en rnle— former and current itv staff people on this morning saying rnanl— people on this morning saying rnanl yea— people on this morning saying rnanl yea rer— people on this morning saying thank you for revealing these deale— thank you for revealing these details. thank— thank you for revealing these details. thank you for speaking ear.— details. thank you for speaking ear. rne— details. thank you for speaking ear. rne nle— details. thank you for speaking out. the big question of course, is out. the big question of course, re ane— out. the big question of course, re we we— out. the big question of course, is the this morning— out. the big question of course, is the this morning brand simply

r-aer— is the this morning brand simply r-aer re— is the this morning brand simply now just to tarnish— is the this morning brand simply now just to tarnish it, to eendnae— now just to tarnish it, to continue it?— now just to tarnish it, to continue it? eamonn holmes enlnlen— continue it? eamonn holmes opihioh nelly— continue it? eamonn holmes opinion holly willoughby will not opinion holly willoughby will ner ee— opinion holly willoughby will not be returning— opinion holly willoughby will not be returning to that sofa. wer— not be returning to that sofa. wer eve— not be returning to that sofa. not ever, because she wants to weed— not ever, because she wants to erereer ner— not ever, because she wants to protect her own— not ever, because she wants to protect her own brand. time will tell protect her own brand. time will rell . — protect her own brand. time will rell. lay— protect her own brand. time will tell . ray addison,— protect her own brand. time will tell . 3 r:r: protect her own brand. time will tell. 3e r:r: tell. ray addison, thank you for that update on what is shaping up to be the showbiz scandal of the year. thank you. well, let's speak now to the assistant showbiz editor at the mirror, daniel bird. good morning to you,— daniel bird. good morning to yea. dandel— daniel bird. good morning to yea. eanlel se— daniel bird. good morning to you, daniel. so is— daniel bird. good morning to you, daniel. so is this- le“ r: good morning to you, daniel. so is this morning. dew— you, daniel. so is this morning. wew re— you, daniel. so is this morning. now to tarnished _ you, daniel. so is this morning. now to tarnished of a brand to eendnae— now to tarnished of a brand to eendnae e — now to tarnished of a brand to eendnae e r— now to tarnished of a brand to continue ? i believe- now to tarnished of a brand to continue ? gilt? continue? i believe so, yes. i think that a statement on saturday and sunday saying the show would be back this week was far too premature because we know people are just going to be tuning find out what the tuning in to find out what the latest drama is with this morning than the life morning rather than the life changing they tell. changing stories that they tell. i have taken i think they should have taken a few to reconsider their few days to reconsider their thoughts. and daniel, another bombshell moment morning, bombshell moment this morning, of course, stock markets reopening bank holiday reopening after the bank holiday and pundits are keeping a close eye on itv shares expected to perhaps suffer as advertisers

pull out. what's your sense aneur— pull out. what's your sense aeear anar— pull out. what's your sense about that ? _ pull out. what's your sense about that ? yes.- pull out. what's your sense about that ? yes. so- what's your sense about that ? l/rt;~er about that? yes. so i think a lot of advertisers and people who have shares in itv are worried about the overall brand image because if you've got several claims of toxicity and an alleged affair that people just said was rumours and hearsay rather than a thorough investigation , you're not going investigation, you're not going to want to invest your money in a brand like that. and what next for holly willoughby ? do you for holly willoughby? do you think? i mean, eamonn- 37 do you think? i mean, eamonn holmes eaylne— think? i mean, eamonn holmes eayrne anar— think? i mean, eamonn holmes eayrne rnar ne— think? i mean, eamonn holmes saying that he doesn't think anar— saying that he doesn't think anal-dend— saying that he doesn't think rnar-eelne re- saying that he doesn't think that going to back. that she's going to be back. snee— that she's going to be back. sne-e eer— that she's going to be back. sne-e eer re— that she's going to be back. she's set to be— that she's going to be back. she's set to be back on the 5th of she's set to be back on the 5th ed junea— she's set to be back on the 5th ed junev ear— she's set to be back on the 5th of june, but he— she's set to be back on the 5th of june, but he says she's not going— of june, but he says she's not eernelee— of june, but he says she's not eernelee laev— of june, but he says she's not| going-be back-she going to be back because she wanre— going to be back because she wanre re— going to be back because she wants to-her- going to be back because she wants to - her own - going to be back because she wants to her own brand wants to protect her own brand and— wants to protect her own brand and brand.— wants to protect her own brand and brand. willoughby. what do you-7 _ and brand. willoughby. what do yea-e r— and brand. willoughby. what do yea-e r aeree— and brand. willoughby. what do you-? i agree with- and brand. willoughby. what do you-? i agree with him. and brand. willoughby. what do. you-? i agree with him and you think? i agree with him and i personally can't see her coming back. we've already seen her and philip have been wiped from social media from this morning. social media and holly has completely changed her social bios to say her social media bios to say she's presenter and she's a presenter and a businesswoman. if this was the case, she would have kept that she was friends with phillip schofield and he introduced her to social media. and daniel

finally— to social media. and daniel finauy .— to social media. and daniel finauy , as— to social media. and daniel finauy , as a— to social media. and daniel finally , as a showbiz- finally, as a showbiz journalist,- finally, as a showbiz journalist, are you expecting more sensational revelations to start— more sensational revelations to start coming— more sensational revelations to stat samtag aut— more sensational revelations to start coming out over the next tats— start coming out over the next tats 7— start coming out over the next tats ttas— start coming out over the next tays ates — start coming out over the next tays ates .— start coming out over the next days ? yes i don't- start coming out over the next days ? yes t::::t . days? yes i don't think this is the last we've heard of it. i certainly don't think it will be brushed under the carpet by friday. i think this is going to happen for the next few months like seen with another like we've seen with another similar last year. oh wow. similar story last year. oh wow. several months potentially- several months potentially still se come months potentially still se come then. is potentially still se come then. daniel,tially still se come then. daniel, thank;till se come then. daniel, thank you to come then. daniel, thank you very— to come then. daniel, thank you very mast.— to come then. daniel, thank you very much. really— to come then. daniel, thank you very much. really good to see you— very much. really good to see you-momma.— very much. really good to see you morning. now, the you this morning. now, the government— you this morning. now, the government is— you this morning. now, the government is-a- you this morning. now, the government is a legal government is set for a legal showdown— government is set for a legal showdown with _ government is set for a legal showdown with the pandemic inquiry— showdown with the pandemic inquiry atsat— showdown with the pandemic inquiry ahead of— showdown with the pandemic inquiry ahead of a deadline for the cattast— inquiry ahead of a deadline for the cabinet-hand- inquiry ahead of a deadline for the cabinet hand over the cabinet office to hand over tats— the cabinet office to hand over boris _whatsapps- the cabinet office to hand over boris whatsapps and boris johnson's whatsapps and states— boris johnson's whatsapps and ttattssttam— boris johnson's whatsapps and diaries from the _ boris johnson's whatsapps and diaries from the pandemic. baroness hallett.- diaries from the pandemic. baroness hallett. the- diaries from the pandemic. baroness hallett. the inquiry is chaired . woman wants to see chaired. woman wants to see unredacted messages between johnson sunak hancock and dozens of others, including dominic cummings. well, let's cross now to aa— cummings. well, let's cross now to our political— cummings. well, let's cross now to our political editor,— cc. 93 well, let's cross now to our political editor, darren ttscatttsy— to our political editor, darren ttscatttsy .— to our political editor, darren mccaffrey , who's— to our political editor, darren mccaffrey , who's in westminster mccaffrey, who's in westminster for mccaffrey, who's in westminster tat — mccaffrey, who's in westminster tat east— mccaffrey, who's in westminster for us. good morning to you. daren— for us. good morning to you. daen sa— for us. good morning to you. darren so we— for us. good morning to you. darren so we know that ministers nave— darren so we know that ministers nave nnttt— darren so we know that ministers have until 4:00— darren so we know that ministers have until 4:00 pm _ darren so we know that ministers have until 4:00 pm today to provide— have until 4:00 pm today to nravtte att— have until 4:00 pm today to provide all of— have until 4:00 pm today to provide all of that material or taansn—

provide all of that material or taansn a— provide all of that material or launch a legal— provide all of that material or launch a legal challenge to the runner— launch a legal challenge to the rattng ant— launch a legal challenge to the ruling and that— launch a legal challenge to the ruling and that deadline is getttng— ruling and that deadline is getttng ee— ruling and that deadline is getting ever closer, isn't it ? getting ever closer, isn't it? rean— getting ever closer, isn't it? vean tt— getting ever closer, isn't it? vean tt ts— getting ever closer, isn't it? yeah, it is indeed. g yeah, it is indeed. but no sign of the government are going to move on any of this. ellie, as you say, this relates to baroness hallett, who set up that covid inquiry set up, of course, by the government. but ultimately, who says that if she is to carry out the full scope of her inquiry looking into the pandemic in its totality , pandemic in its totality, including the political decisions made around things like lockdown, then she needs access to things like whatsapp , access to things like whatsapp, messages between boris johnson and other government ministers, as well access to diaries. as well as access to diaries. now on the diary situation , we now on the diary situation, we already know that the cabinet office some boris office have seen some of boris johnson's diaries and reported them to two police forces that are into alleged are looking into alleged lockdown. breaking meetings in chequers and downing street, something the former prime minister strenuously denies . but minister strenuously denies. but on this point about access to the whatsapp messages and two other diaries and the access by the inquiry, it must be said the

government are backing, if you like , boris johnson on all of like, boris johnson on all of this. says it's ultimately up this. he says it's ultimately up to the cabinet office but ministers this might set ministers feel this might set a bad precedent where frankly people do access to messages people do get access to messages that they some within the cabinet office would insist are not pertinent at all to the scope of the inquiry. baroness hallett says. that's my decision to make . whether she thinks it's to make. whether she thinks it's pertinent or not. where could this end? well, it could end as you say, in the courtroom, in legal wranglings, which is quite extraordinary , that you've got extraordinary, that you've got the heads of an inquiry set up by the government potentially taking very government taking the very government itself to court. we'll have to wait until 4 for wait until 4 pm. for confirmation. but it seems that's where we're heading. as for who was out for boris johnson, who was out running with his dog this morning as i say, he denies any wrongdoing with the covid meetings and chequers and downing street and also insists that it downing street and also insists thatitis downing street and also insists that it is up to the cabinet office to make these decisions, though notably his he has changed legal team a sign changed his legal team a sign that he's not terribly happy

with the way things are going at the moment . okay, darren, thank the moment. okay, darren, thank you the moment. okay, darren, thank you tar— the moment. okay, darren, thank you tar dnngtng— the moment. okay, darren, thank you for bringing us— the moment. okay, darren, thank you for bringing us up— okay, darren, thank you for bringing us up to speed tnere— you for bringing us up to speed tnere at— you for bringing us up to speed there at westminster. as you say,— there at westminster. as you say, canta— there at westminster. as you say, caatt de— there at westminster. as you say, could be extraordinary, eontt— say, could be extraordinary, could unprecedented. we'll could be unprecedented. we'll nave— could be unprecedented. we'll nave-nnttt— could be unprecedented. we'll nave-nnttt n- could be unprecedented. we'll have-until 4 pm.- could be unprecedented. we'll have until 4 pm. to have to wait until 4 pm. to tnt— have to wait until 4 pm. to ttnt ant— have to wait until 4 pm. to find out and— have to wait until 4 pm. to find out and right after us, of course, to the— find out and right after us, of course, to the point is coming up at— course, to the point is coming up at dso. — course, to the point is coming up at 930. andrew- course, to the point is coming up at 930. ' r: 37�* rzirrzrz; a�*r: up at 930. andrew pierce and dawn neesom are here to tell us all about it . loads and loads of all about it. loads and loads of red meat out there today. what's on the menu? well, eamonn holmes is interview extraordinary . is interview extraordinary. bombshell. bombshell. «that is is interview extraordinary. - bombshell. bombshell. that is so atten— bombshell. bombshell. that is so often i overused _ bombshell. bombshell. that is so often overused cliche . often an overused cliche. dantstett. — often an overused cliche. bombshell. but— often an overused cliche. bombshell. but that- often an overused cliche. bombshell. but that really was a bombshell interview. i'm talking cliches already. _ bombshell interview. i'm talking cliches already. we've— i'm talking cliches already. we've heard snat— cliches already. we've heard spat-an. - cliches already. we've heard spat-an. rt- cliches already. we've heard spot-on. it reallyl cliches already. we've heard. spot-on. it really was spot on, spot on. it really was extraordinary. and the pressure is going to continue at itv. you know, it's a taxi bit that got— you know, it's a taxi bit that get me— you know, it's a taxi bit that get yan— you know, it's a taxi bit that got me, you know , government, got me, you know, government, government— got me, you know, government, government are— got me, you know, government, government are the company paid for government are the company paid tar taxes?— government are the company paid tar taxese nan— government are the company paid for taxes? how could they not tnen— for taxes? how could they not know tatter— for taxes? how could they not know aattee — for taxes? how could they not know quite? well,- for taxes? how could they not know quite? �*ft�*rzgc c c know quite? well, it's just it happened under their watch. and if there was an inquiry into- if there was an inquiry into the retattansntn— if there was an inquiry into the relationship which found no evttense— relationship which found no evidence of— relationship which found no evidence of who did the evidence of it, who did the tnaatn— evidence of it, who did the inquiry-and- evidence of it, who did the inquiry-and they inquiry tell us and who did they speak— inquiry tell us and who did they speak tat— inquiry tell us and who did they speak to? because— inquiry tell us and who did they speak to? because there were a lot speak to? because there were a tat at— speak to? because there were a tat at rarnaars— speak to? because there were a lot of rumours, dawn, weren't tneree—sa-

lot of rumours, dawn, weren't. there?_so. about there? oh, very much so. about tne— there? oh, very much so. about tne tast— there? oh, very much so. about the fact phillip— there? oh, very much so. about the fact phillip schofield was navtng— the fact phillip schofield was having inappropriate having an inappropriate relationship— having an inappropriate relationship with a much younger rnernert— member of staff. not illegal, dat— member of staff. not illegal,| but—inappropriate but i would say inappropriate, but i would say inappropriate, tat—r— but i would say inappropriate, tat—r mean- but i would say inappropriate,| but—i mean, philip but very well. i mean, philip has himself. it was has said that himself. it was inappropriate. was ill inappropriate. it was ill conceived, but it was not illegal. so those people who illegal. so all those people who natsntng— illegal. so all those people who were watching this— 3 so all those people who were watching this morning can tnen— were watching this morning can men-aver— were watching this morning can then-over and- were watching this morning can then over and watch us then just come over and watch us tnsteat.— instead. well exactly. because, i_you— instead. well exactly. because, r-yea ere— instead. well exactly. because, i you were working i mean, if you were working closely someone and they closely with someone and they were an affair, obviously were having an affair, obviously there's nothing implied here. but you would, wouldn't it, darling ? but you would notice, darling? but you would notice, wouldn't you ? wouldn't you? you wouldn't you? wouldn't you? you would. yeah. so what else : " c it? : " c it? you would. yeah. so what else have you— would. yeah. so what else have you get— would. yeah. so what else have you get coming— would. yeah. so what else have you get eamtng an— would. yeah. so what else have you got coming up the show, you got coming up on the show, dense— you got coming up on the show, dense-tne— you got coming up on the show, boris? the whatsapp time? boris? in the whatsapp time? ntsetatety. — boris? in the whatsapp time? absolutely. - it's - boris? in the whatsapp time? absolutely. _it's basicallyl absolutely. well, it's basically hand your whatsapp. yeah. hand over your whatsapp. yeah. have your land. the have hand over your land. the labour land grab you like this one don't very excited one don't you. very excited about this . they've and we know about this. they've and we know we meet— about this. they've and we know we need more-built.- about this. they've and we know we need more-built. we. we need more houses built. we tnen— we need more houses built. we knew torv— we need more houses built. we know tory house— we need more houses built. we know tory house building eamamdes— know tory house building companies are- know tory house building companies are donating to companies are not donating to the companies are not donating to tne-anymore- companies are not donating to the-anymore but. the tory party anymore but tadaar—ta- the tory party anymore but. labour—to enable labour is just going to enable deat— labour is just going to enable local authorities— labour is just going to enable local authorities to land local authorities to buy land sat— local authorities to buy land sat-.— local authorities to buy land cut-, sometimes- local authorities to buy land cut , sometimes a 10th of cut price, sometimes a 10th of tne— cut price, sometimes a 10th of tne anee— cut price, sometimes a 10th of the price that's— cut price, sometimes a 10th of the price that's going to end up in the price that's going to end up tn tne— the price that's going to end up tn tne seasn— the price that's going to end up in the courts, isn't— the price that's going to end up in the courts, isn't it? socialist— in the courts, isn't it? socialist land grab, socialist rant,— socialist land grab, socialist rant-jeremy- socialist land grab, socialist land, jeremy corbyn would socialist land grab, socialist larproud. jeremy corbyn would

socialist land grab, socialist larproud. |eremy corbyn would socialist land grab, socialist larproud. /r:::r. ny corbyn would socialist land grab, socialist larproud. /r:::r. "arrirbyn would socialist land grab, socialist larproud. /r:::r. on would socialist land grab, socialist larproud. /r:::r. g tculd socialist land grab, socialist larproud. /r:::r. g c. be proud. you have to give up your share of berkshire, darling. that's what is. darling. that's what it is. andrew dawn it's a packed show. lots look forward to coming up at 930, but do stay with us because to speak to because we're about to speak to bake leith bake off star dame prue leith about amazing career as she about her amazing career as she takes the stage to her takes the stage to tell her story first ever live story in her first ever live show . that's .

next good morning. welcome back. the time has just gone 920 and i'm very excited about this next one because our next guest is the restaurateur and bake off star who is now swapping the tent for the festive all this summer. yeah, and of course, dame prue tettn— yeah, and of course, dame prue tettn nttt— yeah, and of course, dame prue leith will appear— yeah, and of course, dame prue leith will appear at the world's teattng— leith will appear at the world's leading literature— leith will appear at the world's leading literature event, the hay— leading literature event, the hay-,_ leading literature event, the h.y_, en— leading literature event, the h.y_, en tne- leading literature event, the hay-, on the 1st. leading literature event, the hay , on the 1st of hay festival, on the 1st of junea— hay festival, on the 1st of jane, ant— hay festival, on the 1st of june, and her— hay festival, on the 1st of june, and her first ever live eerermanset— june, and her first ever live performance where she promises tnat— performance where she promises tnat netntng— performance where she promises tnat netntng ts— performance where she promises that nothing is off— performance where she promises that nothing is off the menu. ant— that nothing is off the menu. ant sne— that nothing is off the menu. ant sne terns— that nothing is off the menu. and she joins us— that nothing is off the menu. and she joins us now to tell us . tren- de,— and she joins us now to tell us more . wow. so, prue, it's called more. wow. so, prue, it's called tetntng— more. wow. so, prue, it's called tetntng tn— more. wow. so, prue, it's called nothing in moderation . yeah. so nothing in moderation. yeah. so anat— nothing in moderation. yeah. so nnat san— nothing in moderation. yeah. so nnat ne— nothing in moderation. yeah. so what can we expect? what revelations _ what can we expect? what revelations can— what can we expect? what revelations can we expect to get . mett— revelations can we expect to get . nett .— revelations can we expect to get . nett. r— revelations can we expect to get . well , i mean,— revelations can we expect to get . well , i mean, just- revelations can we expect to get . well, i mean, just gallop through my life really . and i through my life really. and i mean and that i do that in the first half of the show and then in the second half i take questions from the audience and i promise them that i will

answer any question . so i had to answer any question. so i had to say, because i wrote an autobiography which which did tell all and so i don't think it would be fair to say i won't talk about anything. but to be honest, i mean, i don't think i've lived such an extra ordinary life. i mean, i've certainly had a long and wonderfully interesting one. and, um, and i've done an enormously lot of different things. i mean, think people mostly think i lviv i've done all my life is eat cake. but you know, i've done a lot of , oh, know, i've done a lot of, oh, no, you're being very, very humble. there you are very esteemet. — humble. there you are very esteemed. you— humble. there you are very esteemed. you are- humble. there you are very esteemed. you are a- there you are very esteemed. you are a broadcast or anrtten— esteemed. you are a broadcast or a water, a— esteemed. you are a broadcast or anrtter, a seen— esteemed. you are a broadcast or a writer, a cook, a— esteemed. you are a broadcast or a writer, a cook, a chef. you're a writer, a cook, a chef. you're a resaaraeartt— a writer, a cook, a chef. you're a restaurateur ,_ a writer, a cook, a chef. you're a restaurateur , a— a writer, a cook, a chef. you're a restaurateur , a writer, a a restaurateur, a writer, a nevettst— a restaurateur, a writer, a nevettst. r— a restaurateur, a writer, a novelist. i mean, you have reatty— novelist. i mean, you have reatty tene— novelist. i mean, you have really done it— novelist. i mean, you have really done it all. i can tmagtne— really done it all. i can imagine that- really done it all. i can imagine that this is going to be the imagine that this is going to be tne mest— imagine that this is going to be the most wonderful event. but nen— the most wonderful event. but tree are— the most wonderful event. but nen yea— the most wonderful event. but how are you feeling ? because how are you feeling? because tnts— how are you feeling? because tnts ts— how are you feeling? because this is actually— how are you feeling? because this is actually your first live eent— this is actually your first live event tsn-t— this is actually your first live event, isn't it— this is actually your first live event, isn't it? _ this is actually your first live event, isn't it ? wti“ c event, isn't it? well, no, it's not my first live event because i've gone all i went all over the uk and with this show , this the uk and with this show, this is my last of the show . so, you

is my last of the show. so, you know, this is your last chance to see me. um, and, and i've so i've, i've actually done 36 appearances from belfast to edinburgh to everywhere . and i edinburgh to everywhere. and i must say, it's been one of the best experiences of my life. i've absolutely loved it . and i've absolutely loved it. and it's so extraordinary because i got into it almost by mistake . i got into it almost by mistake. i mean, i met the producer at a lunch and he said he he does all joanne he's called live taylor and he does all joanna lumley's productions , both telly and film productions, both telly and film and also live. and so he just come back from a tour with joanna and he said, you should do one of these. and so that was four years ago. and so i brooded on it. and when i met him again , we said, well, why not do it? so am and the funny thing is that when i went to university , that when i went to university, i went, first of all to drama

school because i thought i'd be an actress and the reason i didn't go on with it and i'd swapped to doing other things and most of them unsuccessful, it has to be said, i, i had a go at everything before i had hit on food, but i. i was too frightened if i found the stage terrifying . but this time i terrifying. but this time i really loved it. oh, and after 36 really loved it. oh, and after as vems— really loved it. oh, and after 36 events, i'm— really loved it. oh, and after 36 events, i'm sure- ”cage : c oh, and after 36 events, i'm sure it's been adsetatetv— 36 events, i'm sure it's been absolutely brilliant. i need to ast— absolutely brilliant. i need to ask vea— absolutely brilliant. i need to ask vea adeat— absolutely brilliant. i need to ask you about your very special rete— ask you about your very special rete during— ask you about your very special role during the— ask you about your very special role during the coronation, and you— role during the coronation, and vea vertet— role during the coronation, and you worked closely with the duke of you worked closely with the duke et tttndargn— you worked closely with the duke of edinburgh to— you worked closely with the duke of edinburgh to taste that coronation— of edinburgh to taste that coronation quiche together . coronation quiche together. tes.— coronation quiche together. ves- ne.— coronation quiche together. yes we. ne— coronation quiche together. yes we. te te— coronation quiche together. yes. no, he he turned- coronation quiche together. yes. no, he he turned up. there was an event to publicise his the great big lunch or whatever it was called, the coronation, big lunch . and i was involved in big lunch. and i was involved in that. big lunch. and i was involved in that . and so they decided that i that. and so they decided that i should be the judge of the palace's quiche. well, i tell you what, if it had been utterly disgusting , what would i have disgusting, what would i have said? i would have to say it said? i would have had to say it was completely delicious , it was completely delicious, but it was completely delicious, but it

was delicious . it was completely delicious. it really was. it was a very good quiche. and unfortunately , all quiche. and unfortunately, all the photographs of me in every single newspaper was the same one which were taken by reuters or someone at and they were of me sniffing the quiche. you know, i've got my head. i always try to smell food. i've got my head down and i've got my head practically in the quiche and i look awful. so i didn't like that. well, i've actually got the photos in front of me and i can tell you now you don't look awful, but you do have your head down. you are not wrong. and tett— down. you are not wrong. and tett-tne— down. you are not wrong. and tett-tne next- down. you are not wrong. and tell-the next series. down. you are not wrong. andi tell-the next series of tell us about the next series of date— tell us about the next series of date ett— tell us about the next series of bake off, because— tell us about the next series of bake off, because that's coming up bake off, because that's coming at vert— bake off, because that's coming at very-seen— bake off, because that's coming at very-seen nev- bake off, because that's coming up very, soon now, isn't up very, very soon now, isn't tte — up very, very soon now, isn't tte tes.— up very, very soon now, isn't tte tes-were- up very, very soon now, isn't it? yes-we're we're. up very, very soon now, isn't it? “tit; �*ft�*rz; ”c: ”c: s up very, very soon now, isn't- it? yes-we're we're in the it? yes. yes. we're we're in the middle filming it now. um, middle of filming it now. um, come and then go straight come to hay and then go straight back set to do the back on to the set to do the next one. so yeah, it's going to be good. i think i'm not allowed to tell you anything about it, as but as always, the, as you know, but as always, the, the bakers just astonish you. you know, everybody always talks about that show as if it

belonged to paul and me and the presenter says, actually, it's always about the bakers. the bakers are year after year , they bakers are year after year, they just come up trumps because first of all, they're very good bakers . but first of all, they're very good bakers. but but first of all, they're very good bakers . but but they have such bakers. but but they have such personal parties and you get really fond of them. and i can quite understand why the audience is so addicted . okay, audience is so addicted. okay, dame prue leith,— audience is so addicted. okay, dame prue leith, it's- audience is so addicted. okay, dame prue leith, it's a- okay, dame prue leith, it's a pleasure to dame prue leith, it's a pleasure te nave— dame prue leith, it's a pleasure te nave vea— dame prue leith, it's a pleasure te nave vea en— dame prue leith, it's a pleasure to have you on the— dame prue leith, it's a pleasure to have you on the show. thank you— to have you on the show. thank vea verv— to have you on the show. thank vea verv mast.— to have you on the show. thank you very much. and the very best of you very much. and the very best et teet— you very much. and the very best et teet at— you very much. and the very best et teet at tne— you very much. and the very best of look at the hay— you very much. and the very best of look at the hay festival. mant— of look at the hay festival. tnant vea— of look at the hay festival. thank you for— of look at the hay festival. thank you for joining of look at the hay festival. thank you forjoining us of look at the hay festival. thank you for joining us this merntng. — thank you for joining us this merntng. tes.— thank you for joining us this morning. “tit; g: thank you for joining us this morning. “cit? d thank you for joining us this morning. 411733: t.

that interview last night with bombshell, bombshell. that's a caste.— bombshell, bombshell. that's a caste. ten-t— bombshell, bombshell. that's a cliche, isn't it? it— bombshell, bombshell. that's a cliche, isn't it? it is.— bombshell, bombshell. that's a cliche, isn't it? it is. but- bombshell, bombshell. rtc rt: c c7 it is. but but cliche, isn't it? it is. but but for cliche, isn't it? it is. but but ter tts— cliche, isn't it? it is. but but for once, it's true. - cliche, isn't it? it is. but but for once, it's true. and- rt: rt.r: c c7 it is. but but for once, it's true. and it was adsetatetv— for once, it's true. and it was adsetatetv a— for once, it's true. and it was absolutely a bombshell. we could be absolutely a bombshell. we could de going— absolutely a bombshell. we could de getng tnreagn— absolutely a bombshell. we could be going through that. also, dens— be going through that. also, boris johnson— be going through that. also, boris johnson under pressure ever-patte— boris johnson under pressure over public, covid boris johnson under pressure over-we've,-covidi boris johnson under pressure over �*ft�*r: gr1:r covid boris johnson under pressure over gr1:r “r?“r: 'id boris johnson under pressure over gr1:r boris johnson under pressure- over-we've got hand over your phone. we've got hand over your land with labour, hand over your phone with boris and hand over your reputation with one phillip schofield, esquire . lot of schofield, esquire. lot of handing what's not like handing over what's not to like a handing over. we'll see a lot of handing over. we'll see you at 930 .