saturday good evening. tonight on the mage— good evening. tonight on the farage show— good evening. tonight on the farage show ,— good evening. tonight on the farage show , we— e: " g tonight on the farage show , we show you farage show, we show you elusive— farage show, we show you exclusive footage of people who leave— exclusive footage of people who have eessel— exclusive footage of people who have crossed the— exclusive footage of people who have crossed the english channel vie— have crossed the english channel vise eve— have crossed the english channel vise living— have crossed the english channel who are living in— have crossed the english channel who are living in a— have crossed the english channel who are living in a four star iieiel— who are living in a four star iieiel bui— who are living in a four star hotel, but they— who are living in a four star hotel, but they go off to work every— hotel, but they go off to work every luv— hotel, but they go off to work every luv eul— hotel, but they go off to work every day and earn cash for being— every day and earn cash for being in— every day and earn cash for being in u— every day and earn cash for being in a car— every day and earn cash for being in a car wash. cc being in a car wash. i'll ask ile— being in a car wash. i'll ask the question, just how widespread is this around the country? i'll also tell why country? i'll also tell you why harry meghan have proved harry and meghan have proved with their story today about being a fatal being involved in a near fatal collision on manhattan island. i'd exposed why they are i'd exposed to you why they are both complete and utter frauds and would ask the question, what is boris johnson's net zero policy about to do to the british car industry? but before all of that, let's get the news

with polly middlehurst . nigel, with polly middlehurst. nigel, thank you. good :: nigel, thank you. good evening. the 3: nigel, thank you. good evening. the top story— thank you. good evening. the top sievv lenieiii— thank you. good evening. the top story tonight from _ thank you. good evening. the top story tonight from the gb news evince— story tonight from the gb news room, prince harry— story tonight from the gb news room, prince harry claims he , room, prince harry claims he, his wife— room, prince harry claims he, his wife meghan,— room, prince harry claims he, his wife meghan, and her mother were involved— his wife meghan, and her mother were involved in— his wife meghan, and her mother were involved in a— his wife meghan, and her mother were involved in a near catastrophic— were involved in a near catastrophic car chase involving the catastrophic car chase involving iiie paparazzi— catastrophic car chase involving live paparazzi ia— catastrophic car chase involving the paparazzi in manhattan. a spokesperson— the paparazzi in manhattan. a spokesperson for— the paparazzi in manhattan. a spokesperson for the couple said the spokesperson for the couple said iiie iueileui— spokesperson for the couple said the incident happened after they aiieuiel— the incident happened after they aiieuiei au— the incident happened after they attended an award ceremony in new— attended an award ceremony in new veil— attended an award ceremony in new york lasi— attended an award ceremony in new york last night. the siaiemeui— new york last night. the statement said. the relentless pursui— statement said. the relentless pursuit lasting— statement said. the relentless pursuit lasting over two hours vesuliel— pursuit lasting over two hours vesuliei in— pursuit lasting over two hours resulted in multiple near collisions— resulted in multiple near collisions involving other drivers— collisions involving other drivers eu— collisions involving other drivers on the- collisions involving other drivers on the road and pedestrians— drivers on the road and pedestrians ,- drivers on the road and pedestrians , as well as two new pedestrians, as well as two new veil— pedestrians, as well as two new york police— pedestrians, as well as two new york police department officers . aal— york police department officers . ana ile— york police department officers . and the nypd,_ york police department officers . and the nypd, for its part, leas— . and the nypd, for its part, has sail— . and the nypd, for its part, has said they— . and the nypd, for its part, has said they assisted the duke ani— has said they assisted the duke and duchess— has said they assisted the duke and duchess and— has said they assisted the duke and duchess and that the couple auivel— and duchess and that the couple auivel ai— and duchess and that the couple arrived at their— and duchess and that the couple arrived at their destination viii — arrived at their destination viii ue — arrived at their destination with no reported collisions, iuiuvies— with no reported collisions, iaiuvies ev— with no reported collisions, injuries or arrests . new york injuries or arrests. new york ciiv— injuries or arrests. new york ciiv mayor— injuries or arrests. new york city mayor eric— injuries or arrests. new york city mayor eric adams said publis— city mayor eric adams said public saieiv— city mayor eric adams said public safety comes first and foremost— public safety comes first and foremost. press— public safety comes first and foremost. press paparazzi. /:::. foremost. press paparazzi. you luau.— foremost. press paparazzi. you knew. they— foremost. press paparazzi. you know, they want— foremost. press paparazzi. you know, they want to _ foremost. press paparazzi. you know, they want to get the right shot. they want to get the right

story. but public safety must always be at the forefront of my the briefing. i receive. you know, two of our officers could have been injured. and it would be horrific to lose an innocent bystander during the chase like this. and something to have happened to them as well . so happened to them as well. so i think we have to be extremely responsible. so i thought that was a bit reckless and irresponsible . well, the news irresponsible. well, the news leve— irresponsible. well, the news here ai— irresponsible. well, the news here at home,— irresponsible. well, the news here at home, one— irresponsible. well, the news here at home, one of- well, the news here at home, one of the world's lavaesi— here at home, one of the world's lavaesi eva— here at home, one of the world's largest car manufacture workers, is warning— largest car manufacture workers, is warning ii— largest car manufacture workers, is warning ii mav— largest car manufacture workers, is warning it may have to close uk is warning it may have to close ul iaeievies— is warning it may have to close uk factories, meaning thousands of uk factories, meaning thousands ei isi— uk factories, meaning thousands ei iei losses— uk factories, meaning thousands ei iei lesses ii— uk factories, meaning thousands of job losses if the— uk factories, meaning thousands of job losses if the government ieesu-i— of job losses if the government doesn't renegotiate the uk's sievi— doesn't renegotiate the uk's sievii deal.— doesn't renegotiate the uk's brexit deal. it's— doesn't renegotiate the uk's brexit deal. it's after stellantis,- brexit deal. it's after stellantis, which owns brands like— stellantis, which owns brands like vauxhall_ stellantis, which owns brands like vauxhall and citroen, said the like vauxhall and citroen, said iiie euueui— like vauxhall and citroen, said the current agreement will aiieei— the current agreement will aiieei iis— the current agreement will affect its export and manufacturing operations in the uk. manufacturing operations in the ul. ile— manufacturing operations in the uv. iiie company— manufacturing operations in the uk. the company says without cleavages— uk. the company says without changes ii— uk. the company says without changes it will— uk. the company says without changes it will struggle to make eleeivie— changes it will struggle to make electric vehicles— changes it will struggle to make electric vehicles at— changes it will struggle to make electric vehicles at ellesmere , electric vehicles at ellesmere, pavi— electric vehicles at ellesmere, ievi ani— electric vehicles at ellesmere, port and luton,_ electric vehicles at ellesmere, port and luton, the european auiemeiile— port and luton, the european automobile manufacturers association _ automobile manufacturers association is— automobile manufacturers association is requesting now a iiuee— association is requesting now a iiuee vea— association is requesting now a three year extension to phase in the three year extension to phase in live ieueiiev—

three year extension to phase in the tougher post— three year extension to phase in the tougher post brexit rules. ievmev— the tougher post brexit rules. former brexit— the tougher post brexit rules. former brexit negotiator lord ivesi— former brexit negotiator lord ivesi iell — former brexit negotiator lord frost told gb _ former brexit negotiator lord frost told gb news this will lesi— frost told gb news this will iesi ile— frost told gb news this will test the uk's— frost told gb news this will test the uk's eu— frost told gb news this will test the uk's eu relation. would it test the uk's eu relation. would ii nei— test the uk's eu relation. would ii uei le— test the uk's eu relation. would it not be sensible— test the uk's eu relation. would it not be sensible to reopen the enlive— it not be sensible to reopen the euiive ivaie— it not be sensible to reopen the entire trade agreement at this paviieulav— entire trade agreement at this particular issue— entire trade agreement at this particular issue was one of the lasi— particular issue was one of the lasi ia— particular issue was one of the lasi is be— particular issue was one of the last to be settled— particular issue was one of the last to be settled in 2020. the iuuusuv— last to be settled in 2020. the car industry was— last to be settled in 2020. the car industry was happy with it at the time, but obviously a lot's changed in the energy electric vehicle world since then. let's see if the government does decide they want to see if this problem can be fixed. well, it's a good test of whether our new warmer relationship with the eu can actually deliver anything labour wants to give local areas the power to build houses on green belt land on the condition it won't impact areas of natural beauty. sir won't impact areas of natural beauty . sir keir starmer told beauty. sir keir starmer told the beauty. sir keir starmer told iiie eviiisii — ear sir keir starmer told the british chambers of commerce that the british chambers of commerce iiiai increasing— the british chambers of commerce that increasing housing supply veuli— that increasing housing supply would ultimately lead to lower property— would ultimately lead to lower property prices- _ would ultimately lead to lower property prices. the party says it property prices. the party says i vanis— property prices. the party says i vauis ia— property prices. the party says it wants to restore—

property prices. the party says it wants to restore a target of building— it wants to restore a target of building 300,000 houses every vea— building 300,000 houses every veav ii— building 300,000 houses every veav i ii— building 300,000 houses every year ii i vies— building 300,000 houses every year if it wins the— building 300,000 houses every year if it wins the next general eleeiieu— year if it wins the next general eleeiieu .— year if it wins the next general election . and— year if it wins the next general election . and that comes as the election. and that comes as the prime— election. and that comes as the prime minister— election. and that comes as the prime minister was— election. and that comes as the prime minister was forced to area— prime minister was forced to drop plaus— prime minister was forced to leap plaps ia— prime minister was forced to drop plans for compulsory pausing— drop plans for compulsory housing targets after a backlash iam— housing targets after a backlash ivem repel— housing targets after a backlash from rebel backbench mps . you're from rebel backbench mps. you're up is— from rebel backbench mps. you're up is iaie— from rebel backbench mps. you're up is laie eu— from rebel backbench mps. you're up is laie an iv— from rebel backbench mps. you're up to date on tv online dab+ iealie— up to date on tv online dab+ iealie apl— up to date on tv online dab+ radio and the— up to date on tv online dab+ radio and the tune in app. this is es— radio and the tune in app. this is es nevs— radio and the tune in app. this is gb news, britain's news. channel there , channel- there , nearly all channel— there , nearly all men and nearly there, nearly all men and nearly all ei— there, nearly all men and nearly all of mem— there, nearly all men and nearly all of them are— there, nearly all men and nearly all of them are quite young men ail— all of them are quite young men and lie— all of them are quite young men and iiev sess— all of them are quite young men and they cross the— all of them are quite young men and they cross the english channel— and they cross the english channel in— and they cross the english channel in dinghies. "i; channel in dinghies. they pay criminal— channel in dinghies. they pay criminal traffickers to bring them into the united kingdom and we them up put them in we pick them up and put them in four star hotels. give them four star hotels. we give them free care, free dental free medical care, free dental care. we give them nearly £40 a week spending money. but that's not known for not enough. no, we've known for a many of these a long time that many of these people are working illegally in the economy for cash. at the same time as we're paying for

them to live here. the trouble is proving these things. well, this report from mark white, gb news home and security editor, proves a case in aldershot. albie absolutely conclusively . albie absolutely conclusively. have a look at this using the cover of a local park. we're secretly filming _ cover of a local park. we're secretly filming this- f f we're secretly filming this car wash in ile— secretly filming this car wash in the centre— secretly filming this car wash in the centre of— secretly filming this car wash in the centre of aldershot where ei— in the centre of aldershot where of live — in the centre of aldershot where some of the town's— in the centre of aldershot where some of the town's residents leave— some of the town's residents have isla— some of the town's residents have laid us— some of the town's residents have told us asylum seekers are veiling— have told us asylum seekers are working illegally— have told us asylum seekers are working illegally ._ have told us asylum seekers are working illegally . bikes we got working illegally. bikes we got piles— working illegally. bikes we got piles . — working illegally. bikes we got piles . yep.— working illegally. bikes we got piles . vep. i— working illegally. bikes we got bikes. yep, i think- working illegally. bikes we got bikes. /:;:i working illegally. bikes we got bikes. v/gizi bikes. yep, i think this is them. i think see the green bike over recent days those locals have filmed and photographed a group of young men as they cycle between the car wash and this hotel about a mile away . the hotel about a mile away. the hotel about a mile away. the hotel is currently closed- the hotel is currently closed to the publis— hotel is currently closed to the public as— hotel is currently closed to the public as is— hotel is currently closed to the public as it's now— hotel is currently closed to the public as it's now being used as asylum— public as it's now being used as asvlum seeel— public as it's now being used as asylum seeker accommodation filmed— asylum seeker accommodation filmed working— asylum seeker accommodation filmed working at the car wash. ills— filmed working at the car wash. iiais employee,— filmed working at the car wash. this employee, the residents say , is this employee, the residents say

. is ei— this employee, the residents say , is one of those— this employee, the residents say , is one of those asylum seekers , is one of those asylum seekers . as lev— , is one of those asylum seekers , as iiaev claim— , is one of those asylum seekers , as they claim is— , is one of those asylum seekers , as they claim is this young man,— , as they claim is this young man, another— , as they claim is this young man, another who can clearly be cleaning— man, another who can clearly be seen cleaning the— man, another who can clearly be seen cleaning the inside of cars alone— seen cleaning the inside of cars aleup viii— seen cleaning the inside of cars along with this— seen cleaning the inside of cars along with this third man who lev— along with this third man who iiev also— along with this third man who iiaev alse sav— along with this third man who they also say is— along with this third man who they also say is an asylum seele— they also say is an asylum seeker here— they also say is an asylum seeker here all— they also say is an asylum seeker here all three are gelling— seeker here all three are peiiipp eu— seeker here all three are getting on their bikes at the epi— getting on their bikes at the eel ei— getting on their bikes at the end of a— getting on their bikes at the end of a shift— getting on their bikes at the end of a shift before being filmed— end of a shift before being filmed again,— end of a shift before being filmed again, arriving back at the filmed again, arriving back at live leiel— filmed again, arriving back at live hotel .— filmed again, arriving back at the hotel . why— filmed again, arriving back at the hotel . why is he doing what? the hotel. why is he doing what? weave— the hotel. why is he doing what? where have— the hotel. why is he doing what? where have vau— the hotel. why is he doing what? where have you come— the hotel. why is he doing what? where have you come from?- the hotel. why is he doing what? where have you come from? suddenly, two of the men decide to souveni— suddenly, two of the men decide to confront the _ suddenly, two of the men decide to confront the locals who've been — to confront the locals who've been filming— to confront the locals who've been filming them all day. what do been filming them all day. what up vau— been filming them all day. what up you up— been filming them all day. what up you up in— been filming them all day. what do you do in the— been filming them all day. what do you do in the daytime? what do you do in the daytime? what do you do in the daytime? what do you do? you work in you work. you work. you have a job? no, no job. you work. you have a job? no, no iep. comparing— you work. you have a job? no, no job. comparing images,- you work. you have a job? no, no job. comparing images, the- v4:::. v4:::. , no, no job. comparing images, the man leve— job. comparing images, the man here in— job. comparing images, the man here in ile— job. comparing images, the man here in the hoodie_ job. comparing images, the man here in the hoodie is very clearly— here in the hoodie is very clearly p..— here in the hoodie is very clearly the same man pictured veiling— clearly the same man pictured veiling ai— clearly the same man pictured working at the— clearly the same man pictured working at the car wash. it; working at the car wash. he is. vie-ve— working at the car wash. he is. were lulu.— working at the car wash. he is. were lulu. au— working at the car wash. he is. we're told, an iraqi national and the other asylum seeker confronting local residents is also one of the car wash workers . as we arrived to film the car,

wash ourselves , both men were wash ourselves, both men were back at work. the man in the white cap is this man who confronted those outside the hotel now. and here's the iraqi asylum seeker with the jet washer. clearly, the same man outside the hotel in the hoodie . we decided to confront them with our evidence . excuse me, with our evidence. excuse me, sir. excuse me, sir, can you speak to us? can you tell us we're from gb news? are you an asylum seeker ? these boys are . asylum seeker? these boys are. are you an asylum seeker ? his are you an asylum seeker? his boss. sorry. you've been filmed going into. you've been filmed going into. you've been filmed going into. you've been filmed going into the asylum seeker hotel . but going into the asylum seeker hotel. but you're from iraq, is that right? yeah. yeah it is currently illegal for an asylum seeker to work as the state provides their accommodation, food and even a small weekly allowance . time for a chat with allowance. time for a chat with the manager here. so you're the

manager ? yes. yeah. did you know manager? yes. yeah. did you know that this man was an asylum seeker? no,i that this man was an asylum seeker? no, i didn't know. you didn't know? did you not ask for any proof of his former and his sort of immigration status? i'm going to bring it next week. you sail— going to bring it next week. you sail male— going to bring it next week. you said that? yeah— going to bring it next week. you said that? yeah _ going to bring it next week. you said that? yeah so— going to bring it next week. you said that? yeah viii; going to bring it next week. you said that? yeah 34:3; said that? yeah so what are you going to do now knowing that this man's an asylum seeker is not allowed to work anymore? so if i didn't know, do you �* so if i didn't know, do you know liai— if i didn't know, do you know lieu-ailer- if i didn't know, do you know that other people that that there are other people that we've - here who - that there are other people that we've here who are also we've filmed here who are also asylum— we've filmed here who are also asylum seekers?— we've filmed here who are also asylum seekers? i— we've filmed here who are also asylum seekers? i don't know aieui— asylum seekers? i don't know aieui iiis. — asylum seekers? i don't know about this. will— asylum seekers? i don't know about this. kill a about this. will you also be taking action to ensure that they of course, straight they don't? of course, straight away.— they don't? of course, straight avvav—isl they don't? of course, straight. avav—is iusl away, immediately. this is just one car wash in one town. but we've been told of many such instances of asylum seekers working illegally in the black economy . and clearly the inland economy. and clearly the inland revenue never sees any of the money they earn. we've passed on our evidence to the home office. mark white, gb news aldershot right. well there we are absolutely bang to rights and a

great piece of work from mark white and his team and i know this makes people who are out there working and paying their taxes very, very angry indeed and as i think it should. but let me ask you, is this- let me ask you, is this widespread— let me ask you, is this widespread farage@gbnews.uk? is this widespread farage@gbnews.uk? is iiis happening— widespread farage@gbnews.uk? is iiis happening in— widespread farage@gbnews.uk? is this happening in your area? and it this happening in your area? and i soull— this happening in your area? and i could .— this happening in your area? and i could . vau— this happening in your area? and it could , you know,— this happening in your area? and it could , you know, not just car it could, you know, not just car vvasesii— it could, you know, not just car vvasesii ii— it could, you know, not just car washes, it could— it could, you know, not just car washes, it could be— it could, you know, not just car washes, it could be delivery livers.— washes, it could be delivery ivivevs ii— washes, it could be delivery drivers, it could— washes, it could be delivery drivers, it could be many , many drivers, it could be many, many allev— drivers, it could be many, many eiiaev seeeis— drivers, it could be many, many other sectors as— drivers, it could be many, many other sectors as well. i wonder vial— other sectors as well. i wonder viai lie— other sectors as well. i wonder what the home— other sectors as well. i wonder what the home office are aeiuallv— what the home office are actually going— what the home office are actually going to do about this, ieause— actually going to do about this, ieause i— actually going to do about this, because i know— actually going to do about this, because i know that mark white and because i know that mark white aii lie— because i know that mark white and lie ieam — because i know that mark white and the team have— because i know that mark white and the team have written to iieii. — and the team have written to iieii. iiavl— and the team have written to them. mark joins— and the team have written to them. mark joins me now. mark, iiis— them. mark joins me now. mark, iiis is— them. mark joins me now. mark, iiis is i— them. mark joins me now. mark, iiis is i male— them. mark joins me now. mark, this is i mean, clearly border levee— this is i mean, clearly border levee iave— this is i mean, clearly border force have done— this is i mean, clearly border force have done their stuff. iiis— force have done their stuff. iiis is— force have done their stuff. iiis is iav— force have done their stuff. this is now completely a home office— this is now completely a home office responsibility, although . ei— office responsibility, although , of course, the— office responsibility, although , of course, the running of the ieiels— , of course, the running of the ieiels is— , of course, the running of the hotels is then— , of course, the running of the hotels is then contracted out to a ei— hotels is then contracted out to a series of companies, isn't it? it a series of companies, isn't it? ii is.— a series of companies, isn't it? ii is. ves— a series of companies, isn't it? it is, yes. companies— a series of companies, isn't it? it is, yes. companies are- it is, yes. companies are contracted to negotiate with hotel groups and chains to see if they would like to hand over the hotel effectively for a yean the hotel effectively for a year, 18 months. and they're

guaranteed full occupancy. many hotel chains who've been struggling for business, pre pandemic pandemic and even now have decided to take that money offer takes these hotels out of commission for a long time, deprives the community of that and also leads to some tensions in these communities. but if i'm one of those firms,— in these communities. but if i'm one of those firms, a— " , " e but if i'm one of those firms, a serco, eleaispiiips— one of those firms, a serco, clearsprings, whatever it is, ail— clearsprings, whatever it is, anal i-ve— clearsprings, whatever it is, and ive pai— clearsprings, whatever it is, and i've got the— clearsprings, whatever it is, and i've got the contract for iiis— and i've got the contract for iiis ieiel— and i've got the contract for iiis ieiel i— and i've got the contract for this hotel, i then- and i've got the contract for this hotel, i then provide the sail— this hotel, i then provide the siaii iav— this hotel, i then provide the staff for this— this hotel, i then provide the staff for this hotel, surely iieve-s— staff for this hotel, surely iieve-s a— staff for this hotel, surely there's a responsibility arnie on there's a responsibility arnie ei iiese— there's a responsibility arnie on these companies that are maliip— on these companies that are maliip vasi— on these companies that are making vast amounts of money to male— making vast amounts of money to male lie— making vast amounts of money to make sure the people in those ieiels— make sure the people in those ieiels ae— make sure the people in those hotels are not— make sure the people in those hotels are not acting illegally . i— hotels are not acting illegally . i iiiil— hotels are not acting illegally . i think that's— hotels are not acting illegally . i think that's a— hotels are not acting illegally . i think that's a very- hotels are not acting illegally . i think that's a very good point. actually i was remarking to my team when we were filming this particular hotel in aldershot that the security personnel there contracted out by the home office were very exercised about us being there and filming , ensuring that we and filming, ensuring that we were not doing anything that would be in any way a threat to

the asylum seekers there. but that same level of curiosity did not seem to extend to where the asylum seekers were heading on their bikes. each day and then coming back at the end of clearly what was a full shift. now, in terms of what the home office are doing, this falls under the remit of immigration enforcement. and to be fair to them, they're doing a lot. nigel last year they carried out some 4000 raids on business premises is where they had information that people were working illegally and we're told from senior sources that actually arnie a significant on an increasing proportion of those illegal workers are asylum seekers and that should be no surprise either , because the surprise either, because the fact is the number of asylum seekers coming here is growing significantly each year. 46,000 almost came across last year and this year already we've got that 7000 mark. that figure has just

been passed today 250 odd were told from our producer down in kent came across in small boats today. so that'll be adding to the strain already on the asylum system. it'll be putting more people out there in communities across england and wales. people out there in communities across england and wales . and across england and wales. and some of those at least according to our sources, will find their way despite being given these allowances and hotel and food accommodation, i suspect i suspect markets rather a lot. but, you know, we can't prove liai— but, you know, we can't prove iiai iiis— but, you know, we can't prove iiai iiis ve— but, you know, we can't prove that this we have— but, you know, we can't prove that this we have proved. but i iiiil— that this we have proved. but i iiiil ve— that this we have proved. but i think we need— that this we have proved. but i think we need to— that this we have proved. but i think we need to dig deeper. if the think we need to dig deeper. if iie heme— think we need to dig deeper. if the home office— think we need to dig deeper. if the home office give out these iupe— the home office give out these huge contracts— the home office give out these huge contracts worth hundreds of millions— huge contracts worth hundreds of millions ei— huge contracts worth hundreds of millions of pounds— huge contracts worth hundreds of millions of pounds to these eeiiapiies— millions of pounds to these companies as— millions of pounds to these companies as those companies, it seems-me , should— seems to me, should be responsible— seems to me, should be responsible making sure that responsible for making sure that the responsible for making sure that lie people— responsible for making sure that lie peeple ii— responsible for making sure that the people in those hotels are not the people in those hotels are ill veiling— the people in those hotels are not working and— the people in those hotels are not working and acting illegally.— not working and acting illegally. have you a illegally. have you had a- response _office to response from the home office to this response from the home office to iiis—iiev-ve- response from the home office to this—they've said. this directly? yeah they've said liai— this directly? yeah they've said iiai-iale— this directly? yeah they've said iiai-iale-veiv- that they take this very seriously— that they take this veryi seriously—it seriously indeed, that it deprives— seriously indeed, that it deprives these people in the uk of a— deprives these people in the uk of a lap. — deprives these people in the uk of a job. clearly— deprives these people in the uk of a job. up deprives these people in the uk of a job. clearly these people are not also contributing to society . there are conservative

society. there are conservative estimate , sir nigel, of 1.2 estimate, sir nigel, of 1.2 million people working in the black economy of the illegal economy in the uk and a proportion of those growing all the time are asylum seekers. that's 1.2 the time are asylum seekers. that's1.2 million people who are not contributing to tax or indeed to national insurance. that's many billions of pounds that would actually be of benefit to this country that instead filters its way back, usually to the families of these individuals back in their home countries. well,i individuals back in their home countries. well, i can't say i lile— countries. well, i can't say i lile lie— countries. well, i can't say i lile iie story— clip. well, i can't say i like the story because iizv. well, i can't say i like the story because it vii::v. well, i can't say i like the story because it drives me ieilevs— like the story because it drives me bonkers as— like the story because it drives me bonkers as i'm— like the story because it drives me bonkers as i'm sure it will. iiaiv— me bonkers as i'm sure it will. iiaiv ei— me bonkers as i'm sure it will. many of eau— me bonkers as i'm sure it will. many of our viewers and lisieievs— many of our viewers and listeners who— many of our viewers and listeners who are paying their iaes — listeners who are paying their iaes pui— listeners who are paying their taxes. but well— listeners who are paying their taxes. but well done, great piece— taxes. but well done, great piece ei— taxes. but well done, great piece of work.— taxes. but well done, great piece of work. you've exposed vie— piece of work. you've exposed iie ivuii— piece of work. you've exposed the truth here. _ piece of work. you've exposed the truth here. keep it up. mark wile.— the truth here. keep it up. mark vviiie. iiail— the truth here. keep it up. mark white, thank you. _ the truth here. keep it up. mark white, thank you. well, i'm ieiiei— white, thank you. well, i'm ieiiei iav— white, thank you. well, i'm joined now down the line by tony smili— joined now down the line by tony smpp, vie— joined now down the line by tony smith, the former— joined now down the line by tony smith, the former director general— smith, the former director general ei— smith, the former director general of uk— smith, the former director general of uk border force and maiapiip— general of uk border force and now managing director forte now managing director of forte eleial— now managing director of forte global,-course- now managing director of forte global,-course ,- now managing director of forte global, course , advise global, who, of course, advise on paler— global, who, of course, advise on border borders— global, who, of course, advise on border borders and security . on border borders and security. tony,— on border borders and security. ieiv. iiail— on border borders and security. ieiv. iiail vau— on border borders and security. tony, thank you for coming back on tony, thank you for coming back

an vie— tony, thank you for coming back on the programme.— tony, thank you for coming back on the programme. so it's all very— on the programme. so it's all very easy.— on the programme. so it's all very easyv veallv. — on the programme. so it's all very easy, really. you get in a linem— very easy, really. you get in a iiipiv. ve-ue— very easy, really. you get in a dinghy, you're picked up, put in a ieiel— dinghy, you're picked up, put in a ieiel .— dinghy, you're picked up, put in a ieiel . give— dinghy, you're picked up, put in a hotel , give it— dinghy, you're picked up, put in a hotel, give it everything you peel.— a hotel, give it everything you need. iivee— a hotel, give it everything you need, three square meals a day, leiial— need, three square meals a day, leiial eave— need, three square meals a day, leiial .— need, three square meals a day, dental care , you— need, three square meals a day, dental care , you name it, and dental care, you name it, and you— dental care, you name it, and you iusi— dental care, you name it, and you iusi pe— dental care, you name it, and you iusi pa eli— dental care, you name it, and you just go off and work in the ilael— you just go off and work in the black economy.— you just go off and work in the black economy. my question is to mail— black economy. my question is to mail a— black economy. my question is to mail a memeii— black economy. my question is to mark a moment ago. i'm going to put mark a moment ago. i'm going to pui vie— mark a moment ago. i'm going to pui iie same— mark a moment ago. i'm going to put the same one— mark a moment ago. i'm going to put the same one to— mark a moment ago. i'm going to put the same one to you. is vviiisi— put the same one to you. is viilsi iiis— put the same one to you. is whilst this goes— put the same one to you. is whilst this goes from border levee— whilst this goes from border ievee ve— whilst this goes from border force to home— whilst this goes from border force to home office, surely iiese— force to home office, surely those private _ force to home office, surely those private companies running iiese— those private companies running those contracts— those private companies running those contracts should be held aeeeuiiaile— those contracts should be held accountable for— those contracts should be held accountable for this . accountable for this. so the pesiiiei— accountable for this. so the position with them, nigel, is that they are providing accommodation for people who claim to be destitute on arrival and as you say, you know, significant amounts of money are involved in those contracts . involved in those contracts. they're not detention centres, iiev— they're not detention centres, iiev ae— they're not detention centres, iiev free— they're not detention centres, they are free to— they're not detention centres, they are free to come and go faeri— they are free to come and go ivem ieiel— they are free to come and go ivem ieiel .— they are free to come and go from hotel. is— they are free to come and go from hotel . is the from hotel. is the responsibility regarding employment rests with the empievev— employment rests with the empievev .— employment rests with the employer . and— employment rests with the employer . and i think the employer. and i think the maiaevp— employer. and i think the manager that— employer. and i think the manager that you interviewed iieve— manager that you interviewed iieve mav— manager that you interviewed there may have— manager that you interviewed there may have a— manager that you interviewed there may have a few more auesiieis— there may have a few more auesiieis ve— there may have a few more questions to answer. if immigration- questions to answer. if immigration enforcement go back

iieve— immigration enforcement go back iieve ieause— immigration enforcement go back there because he— immigration enforcement go back there because he has a legal iuiv— there because he has a legal dutvv uipel— there because he has a legal dutvv uipel ve— there because he has a legal duty, nigel, to check the credentials _ duty, nigel, to check the credentials of- duty, nigel, to check the credentials of all his credentials of all of his workforce.— credentials of all of his workforce. they're workforce. and if they're legally— workforce. and if they're legally allowed to work, as you lieu— legally allowed to work, as you lievv. asvlum — legally allowed to work, as you know, asylum seekers work know, asylum seekers can work ailer— know, asylum seekers can work aiiev-iie— know, asylum seekers can work aiiev-iie ul- know, asylum seekers can work after-the uk, then. know, asylum seekers can work after the uk, then he after a year in the uk, then he ias— after a year in the uk, then he ias ve— after a year in the uk, then he ias ie leep— after a year in the uk, then he has to keep copies— after a year in the uk, then he has to keep copies of those ieeumeiis— has to keep copies of those documents-he's- has to keep copies of those documents he's liable to documents and he's liable to a fine— documents and he's liable to a fine ei— documents and he's liable to a fine of £20,000— documents and he's liable to a fine of £20,000 for each illegal vvevevl— fine of £20,000 for each illegal vvevevl liai— fine of £20,000 for each illegal worker that he _ fine of £20,000 for each illegal worker that he employs . so worker that he employs. so iieve-s— worker that he employs. so there's quite— worker that he employs. so there's quite a— worker that he employs. so there's quite a lot of money liai— there's quite a lot of money iiai vveuli— there's quite a lot of money that would going into the that would be going into the eveeue-vu— that would be going into the revenue -you can- that would be going into the revenue you can rest revenue and you can rest assured, as mark said, immigration- assured, as mark said, immigration enforcement teams are immigration enforcement teams ave—speali are out and about as we speak all eve— are out and about as we speak all vie— are out and about as we speak all over the country. they do lapel— all over the country. they do iavpei places— all over the country. they do target places like this they target places like this and they do target places like this and they ie iii— target places like this and they ie iiii peeple— target places like this and they do find people that they are aile— able to remove. nigel because it's able to remove. nigel because ii-s—ie— able to remove. nigel because ii-s—ie iii- able to remove. nigel because it's—to find illegal. it's quite hard to find illegal immipvaiis.— it's quite hard to find illegal immigrants. there immigrants. so there is there is a lei— immigrants. so there is there is a lei peiip— immigrants. so there is there is a lei peiip ei— immigrants. so there is there is a lot going on behind the scenes on a lot going on behind the scenes as all— a lot going on behind the scenes as all iiis— a lot going on behind the scenes as all iiis. i— a lot going on behind the scenes on all this. i can— a lot going on behind the scenes on all this. i can understand why— on all this. i can understand viv-ave— on all this. i can understand viv-ave apply- on all this. i can understand why are angry that, you why people are angry that, you lieu.— why people are angry that, you lieu—eul- why people are angry that, youi lieu—eui ail know, people are going out and veiling— know, people are going out and veiling-easi— know, people are going out and working cash when they working for cash when they sieuiii-i— working for cash when they shouldn't-and- working for cash when they shouldn't and there's shouldn't be, and there's not musi— shouldn't be, and there's not muei ve— shouldn't be, and there's not much we can do— shouldn't be, and there's not much we can do with the asylum seele— much we can do with the asylum seeker because _ much we can do with the asylum seeker because you— much we can do with the asylum seeker because you take them to eeuee— seeker because you take them to eeuvi-eiieiee— seeker because you take them to court - offence of - seeker because you take them to court offence of illegal court for an offence of illegal veiling. — court for an offence of illegal working. well,— court for an offence of illegal working. well, they're asylum. iiev-ve— working. well, they're asylum. iiviepeviei. — working. well, they're asylum. thideported. they've no be deported. they've got no meiev— be deported. they've got no meiev le— be deported. they've got no meiev ie pe— be deported. they've got no money to be fined really. so iieve-s— money to be fined really. so there's-much— money to be fined really. so there's much sanction there's not much sanction apaiisi— there's not much sanction apaiisi-iui- there's not much sanction against but there against them. but there are sipiiiieaii— against them. but there are significant sanctions place significant sanctions in place ail— significant sanctions in place and available— significant sanctions in place and available against those emplevevs— and available against those emplevevs .— and available against those emplevevs . se— and available against those employers . so would and available against those employers. so would an

employers. so would if an emplevevs— employers. so would if an employers watching your show, nigel— employers watching your show, uipel vie— employers watching your show, uipel vie ae— employers watching your show, nigel, who are not copying ieeumeiis— nigel, who are not copying documents and— nigel, who are not copying documents and checking documents iieveupilv— documents and checking documents iieveupilv. nei— documents and checking documents thoroughly, not just— documents and checking documents thoroughly, not just of albania evevvieiv— thoroughly, not just of albania evevvieiv iiev— thoroughly, not just of albania everybody they are obliged, iieiuiiip— everybody they are obliged, including british people to keep eeersi— including british people to keep reeersi ail— including british people to keep records and to— including british people to keep records and to satisfy themselves- records and to satisfy themselves if they don't do vial.— themselves if they don't do iiai. nigel— themselves if they don't do that. nigel then they will feel the that. nigel then they will feel iie ieree — that. nigel then they will feel iie ieree ei— that. nigel then they will feel the force of the— that. nigel then they will feel the force of the law. and i iiiil— the force of the law. and i iiiil liai— the force of the law. and i think that poor— the force of the law. and i think that poor chap down in aliersiei— think that poor chap down in aldershot may— think that poor chap down in aldershot may well feel the race— aldershot may well feel the ieree ei— aldershot may well feel the force of the _ aldershot may well feel the force of the law.— aldershot may well feel the force of the law. well, if immigration— force of the law. well, if immigration enforcement go back iiere—siev- immigration enforcement go back there—show that- there and he can't show that ie-s— there and he can't show that ie-s-iie— there and he can't show that he's-the checks- there and he can't show that he's the checks on these he's done the checks on these peeple— he's done the checks on these peepie-iei-i— he's done the checks on these people don't think he'll people and i don't think he'll be aile— people and i don't think he'll be able ve— people and i don't think he'll be able to do— people and i don't think he'll be able to do that. from what i saw from. well,— be able to do that. from what i saw from. well, i— be able to do that. from what i saw from. well, i hope you know, i saw from. well, i hope you know, i-iiai— saw from. well, i hope you know, i-iiai lees— saw from. well, i hope you know, i-that does happen,- saw from. well, i hope you know, i that does happen, tony. i hope that does happen, tony. veu— i hope that does happen, tony. veu lieu— i hope that does happen, tony. veu lievv. im— i hope that does happen, tony. you know, i'm encouraged- i hope that does happen, tony. you know, i'm encouraged to hear both yourself me both mark and yourself tell me that immigration enforcement that the immigration enforcement teams active and teams are incredibly active and busy. but the scale busy. good good. but the scale of just gets bigger of the problem just gets bigger and bigger and bigger. we've crossed number 7000 today crossed the number 7000 today that have crossed the channel, i'm on good authority that i'm told, on good authority that the reason it's not more is they're having trouble accessing outboard motors at this present moment in time. but money talks and i'm sure they'll find a way around it. and the prime

minister has pledged to stop. the boats are we any closer, in your opinion , to stopping the your opinion, to stopping the boats ? well, you know as well as boats? well, you know as well as i boats? well, you know as well as i ele.— boats? well, you know as well as i ele. uipel— boats? well, you know as well as i ele. uipel lie— , well, you know as well as i do, nigel, the problem is the eipeiip— i do, nigel, the problem is the eipeiip legal— i do, nigel, the problem is the ongoing legal debates. you know .vveve gei— ongoing legal debates. you know .vveve pei a— ongoing legal debates. you know .vveve per a new— ongoing legal debates. you know , we've got a new law now in the lads — , we've got a new law now in the lads vie-ve— , we've got a new law now in the lads vie-ve gei— , we've got a new law now in the lords. we've got the— , we've got a new law now in the lords. we've got the court of appeal— lords. we've got the court of appeal ievv— lords. we've got the court of appeal now still— lords. we've got the court of appeal now still waiting on iieir— appeal now still waiting on their judgement on appeal now still waiting on theirjudgement on rwanda . the theirjudgement on rwanda. the key theirjudgement on rwanda. the lev re— theirjudgement on rwanda. the lev ie all— theirjudgement on rwanda. the lev ie all ei— theirjudgement on rwanda. the key to all of this— theirjudgement on rwanda. the key to all of this is removals ail— key to all of this is removals and we're not— key to all of this is removals and we're not really removing aivieiv— and we're not really removing aivieiv .— and we're not really removing aivieiv . i— and we're not really removing aivieiv . r sav— and we're not really removing anybody . i say that perhaps we anybody. i say that perhaps we are anybody. i say that perhaps we rerieviip— anybody. i say that perhaps we are removing albanians for example.— are removing albanians for example. veu— are removing albanians for example, you look at the removal figures— example, you look at the removal iipures .— example, you look at the removal iipures . iiev— example, you look at the removal figures , they are— example, you look at the removal figures , they are able to figures, they are able to iieiiiiv— figures, they are able to identify and— figures, they are able to identify and send them back, but sill— identify and send them back, but siill gei— identify and send them back, but we've still got a— identify and send them back, but we've still got a problem where riesi— we've still got a problem where riesi ei— we've still got a problem where most of those— we've still got a problem where most of those people coming off of most of those people coming off ei iiese— most of those people coming off of those boats— most of those people coming off of those boats will— most of those people coming off of those boats will go into to lie— of those boats will go into to lie ul— of those boats will go into to the uk. they'll— of those boats will go into to the uk. they'll be served with ieiiees— the uk. they'll be served with ieiiees saving— the uk. they'll be served with notices saying you're not admissible,— notices saying you're not admissible, but they will then go admissible, but they will then are inve— admissible, but they will then are iiie-svsieri— admissible, but they will then go into system where until go into this system where until we go into this system where until vve-lepal— go into this system where until we legal authorities in the we have legal authorities in the easier— we have legal authorities in the ierier ieree— we have legal authorities in the border force and— we have legal authorities in the border force and immigration eierieerieii— border force and immigration enforcement actually arrest enforcement to actually arrest iieri — enforcement to actually arrest them -remove _ enforcement to actually arrest them remove them from the them and remove them from the ierriierv—ei- territory without fear of judicial— territory without fear of judicial intervention, without purine— judicial intervention, without puiiiip lie— judicial intervention, without putting the home secretary in eeiieripi— putting the home secretary in eeiieripi ei— putting the home secretary in contempt of court, and without you— contempt of court, and without you demonstrating and you guys demonstrating and sieving— you guys demonstrating and showing pictures. nigel, of

peeple— showing pictures. nigel, of- people—removed people actually being removed ireri— people actually being removed ireri-eeuiirv— people actually being removed ireri-eeuiirv .— people actually being removed from country , message from the country, that message is ier— from the country, that message is per peiip— from the country, that message is per peiip ie— from the country, that message is not going to get across to calais. —ie- is not going to get across to calais.—ie peii calais. it's not going to get across-migrants- calais. it's not going to get across migrants or the across to the migrants or the iuriai— across to the migrants or the human smugglers, is no, human smugglers, is it? no, iiere— human smugglers, is it? no, iiere-ie— human smugglers, is it? no, there no disincentives at there are no disincentives at all — there are no disincentives at all iiial— there are no disincentives at all. final thoughts,- there are no disincentives at all. citric �*" all. final thoughts, tony, if i can, while i've got you on. you mentioned albanians moment mentioned albanians a moment ago and the government having some limited sending limited success in sending people back to albania. but it seems we're actually seems that we're actually bribing people to go back to albania by giving them payments of up to £1,300 to go back to the country that they've left illegally. what on earth are we thinking ? well, i mean , illegally. what on earth are we thinking? well, i mean , i think thinking? well, i mean, i think the thinking behind the policy, nigel, is a cost benefit analysis. this of keeping serieieiv— analysis. this of keeping somebody in— analysis. this of keeping somebody in a- this of keeping somebody in a uk prison for an iieriiiaie— somebody in a uk prison for an inordinate period— somebody in a uk prison for an inordinate period of time and iiei— inordinate period of time and iiei ieperiiip— inordinate period of time and then deporting them at the end of then deporting them at the end ei iieir— then deporting them at the end of their sentence _ then deporting them at the end of their sentence or encouraging iieri — of their sentence or encouraging iieri ie— of their sentence or encouraging iieri ie leave— of their sentence or encouraging them to leave much earlier in ie— them to leave much earlier in iie preess— them to leave much earlier in iie pess se— them to leave much earlier in the process so that they are prepared.— the process so that they are deported. they're not they're nei— deported. they're not they're iei—prisei not using up valuable prison spe— not using up valuable prison space—eesiiipl not using up valuable prisoni space._costing us space. they're not costing us any— space. they're not costing us aiv-rieiev.— space. they're not costing us aiv-rieiev. iie- space. they're not costing us any money. the key to that, any more money. the key to that, iieupi— any more money. the key to that, iieupi. is— any more money. the key to that, though, is making— any more money. the key to that, though, is making sure they're preperlv— though, is making sure they're properly punished the first properly punished in the first place.— properly punished in the first| place._question. place. so that's the question. are— place. so that's the question. are iiev— place. so that's the question. are iiev preperlv— place. so that's the question. are they properly punished for vviaiever— are they properly punished for whatever-that- are they properly punished for

whatever that they've whatever offence that they've ieiee—peeple i whatever offence that they've. done? _ people say, done? i think most people say, vell— done? i think most people say, well-ie— done? i think most people say, veil-re ie- done? i think most people say, well, to be properly well, they need to be properly puiisiei. — punished. secondly, though, nigel— punished. secondly, though, nigel-vve— punished. secondly, though, nigel, we really punished. secondly, though, nigel,-we really is nigel, what we really must do is leep—iie— nigel, what we really must do is keep—the territory. i keep them out of the territory. if keep them out of the territory. ii-peiip— keep them out of the territory. ii-peiip ie— keep them out of the territory. if-going to deport- if you're going to deport serieieiv— if you're going to deport somebody-the- if you're going to deport somebody the territory, if you're going to deport- somebody-the territory, we somebody from the territory, we iiiperpriii— somebody from the territory, we fingerprint them,— somebody from the territory, we fingerprint them, photograph fingerprint them, we photograph iieri — fingerprint them, we photograph iierriuri— fingerprint them, we photograph thenturn-that's_ fingerprint them, we photograph thenturn that's why we need they turn up. that's why we need eierieerieii— they turn up. that's why we need enforcement teams.— they turn up. that's why we need enforcement teams. that's why we peei— enforcement teams. that's why we need raair— enforcement teams. that's why we need radar. that's— enforcement teams. that's why we need radar. that's why. because if need radar. that's why. because ii—iael.- need radar. that's why. because ii—iael. ve- need radar. that's why. because if_back, we cani if they're coming back, we can arresi— if they're coming back, we can arrest-fingerprint- arrest them. fingerprint them, iieiiiiv— arrest them. fingerprint them, identify—you've. identify immediately. you've alreaiv— already a previous deportee, and:— already a previous deportee, anal—sai- already a previous deportee,| and,_can then already a previous deportee,- and,_can then be and, you know, you can then be sieppei— and, you know, you can then be sieppei-eeriiip- and, you know, you can then be stopped coming back. what stopped from coming back. what worries me is i'm— stopped from coming back. what worries me is i'm hearing sieries— worries me is i'm hearing sieries liai— worries me is i'm hearing stories that some of them are perina— stories that some of them are peiiiip pael— stories that some of them are peiiiip pael ii— stories that some of them are getting back in again. and i bet liai— getting back in again. and i bet iiai iiai-s— getting back in again. and i bet that that's really— getting back in again. and i bet that that's really defeating the vviele— that that's really defeating the vviele-ei— that that's really defeating the vviele-ei lie— that that's really defeating the whole of the exercise, whole object of the exercise, isi-i— whole object of the exercise, isi-ilveai.— whole object of the exercise, isi-ilveai. — whole object of the exercise, isn't-yeah. come- whole object of the exercise,- isn't.yeah. come-britain isn't it? yeah. come to britain illegally, go to illegally, commit crime, go to prison and get £1,500 to go back to albania and come and do it again. i have to say, i understand your point about the cost benefit analysis , but cost benefit analysis, but morally it strikes me as being very wrong. tony smith i've no doubt we're going to speak to you again very, very soon and thank you joining us. the thank you for joining us. so the big story that broke this afternoon, quite extra ordinary. yes, it's of course , harry and yes, it's of course, harry and meghan. this amazing statement, they put out about what happened

after the award ceremony in new york last night. they were apparently chased for two hours around manhattan and involved in around manhattan and involved in a near fatal collision in a moment, we're going to expose why that whole thing is a complete pack of lies

radio show. se- radio show. so your reaction radio show.- so your reaction to radio show.— so your reaction to that lalie siev— so your reaction to that package sievviip — so your reaction to that package sievviip peeple— so your reaction to that package showing people who've crossed the showing people who've crossed iie ciaiiel— showing people who've crossed the channel working here illegally— the channel working here illegallve — the channel working here illegally ? osvz; . «vita; illegally? one viewer says yes and shame on the conservative party for still not stopping the illegal boat crossings from france , wasting £7 million a day france, wasting £7 million a day to keep migrants in hotels . to keep migrants in hotels. another says to me, let them work legally and pay into the system whilst waiting to be assessed. let me promise you something . if you do that, that something. if you do that, that is the nearest thing to an amnesty . and the numbers coming amnesty. and the numbers coming won't be 50,000 a year. there'll

be hundreds of thousands every single year. now this extraordinary statement broke this afternoon. uk time, a statement from the sussexes last night, the duke and duchess and mrs. ragland. that's meghan's mother, were involved in a near catastrophic car chase at the hands of a ring of highly aggressive paparazzi. this relentless pursuit lasting over two hours resulted in multiple near collisions involving other drivers on the road, pedestrians and two nypd officers as well. being a public figure comes with a level of interest from the public. it should never come at the cost of anyone's safety. this emanation of these images , this emanation of these images, given the ways in which they were obtained , encourages were obtained, encourages a highly intrusive practise that is dangerous to all involved . is dangerous to all involved. and i saw that and i thought, hmm , what you're really doing is hmm, what you're really doing is you're saying that the circumstances, the awful circumstances, the awful circumstances in paris in 97, in which diana died, were created on the island of manhattan last night. i think also what harry is saying ,

night. i think also what harry is saying, given he has a legal case going on at the moment, demanding that he gets protection 24 over seven is that he can't survive without the british taxpayer stumping up for him. well, i was sceptical about this from the very start, and here we had eric adams, the mayor of new york , responding. mayor of new york, responding. i would find it hard to believe that there was a two hour high speed chase that would be i find it hard to believe, but we will find out the exact duration of it. but if it's ten minutes, a vei— it. but if it's ten minutes, a rep riiiuie— it. but if it's ten minutes, a ten minute chase— . but if it's ten minutes, a ten minute chase is extremely iaipereus— ten minute chase is extremely iaipereus ii— ten minute chase is extremely dangerous in new york city . dangerous in new york city. vvell— dangerous in new york city. vvell ves— dangerous in new york city. well, yes. mayor adams, i would iii— well, yes. mayor adams, i would find ii— well, yes. mayor adams, i would find ii verv— well, yes. mayor adams, i would find it very hard— well, yes. mayor adams, i would find it very hard to— well, yes. mayor adams, i would find it very hard to believe to bizarrely.— find it very hard to believe to bizarrely, half— find it very hard to believe to bizarrely, half way through the se—eallei— bizarrely, half way through the so—called chase— bizarrely, half way through the so—called chase they got out of iiere— so—called chase they got out of iiere .— so—called chase they got out of there , blacked— so—called chase they got out of there , blacked out— so—called chase they got out of there , blacked out suv and got there, blacked out suv and got inve— there, blacked out suv and got iiie a— there, blacked out suv and got iiie a vellev— there, blacked out suv and got into a yellow new— there, blacked out suv and got into a yellow new york taxi vviere— into a yellow new york taxi viere iie — into a yellow new york taxi where the chase— into a yellow new york taxi where the chase continued. ' v: where the chase continued. and yet where the chase continued. and vei lir— where the chase continued. and vei iir sippi— where the chase continued. and vei iir sirpi .— where the chase continued. and yet mr singh , who— where the chase continued. and yet mr singh , who runs the taxi, yet mr singh, who runs the taxi, says, i don't think i would call it a chase. i never felt like i was in danger. it wasn't like a car chase in a movie. i think

they may well have overegged the pudding . i think this could be pudding. i think this could be the issue that gives them actually their ultimate comeuppance . let's see. well, comeuppance. let's see. well, let's find out how things would have operated on the ground in new york. and i'm joined now by former nypd detective bo dietl and significantly, of course, these days running bo dietl and associates . security and associates. security and investigation nation. so, bo, welcome to the program. let's begin the investigation . a two begin the investigation. a two hour high speed car chase on manhattan. how likely, in your view , may use the english term view, may use the english term rubbish? because i think this is rubbish? because i think this is rubbish and last night, matter of fact, i was doing for disney did all the security at the convention centre. we had lariasiiai— convention centre. we had kardashian there,- convention centre. we had kardashian there, we- i iii" vi.ii;".”ii; we had kardashian there, we had i iiv“ viii;“.”ii; we had kardashian there, we had all the iarieus— kardashian there, we had all the iarieus peeple— kardashian there, we had all the famous people there. we were iriipiip— famous people there. we were iriipiip vieri— famous people there. we were bringing them in— famous people there. we were bringing them in this, bringing them in and out. this, to bringing them in and out. this, ie me— bringing them in and out. this, ie rielvie— bringing them in and out. this, to melthe most— bringing them in and out. this, to me the most ridiculous to me is the most ridiculous seuiiiip— to me is the most ridiculous sounding thing— to me is the most ridiculous sounding thing in the world. i-ve— sounding thing in the world. i-ve —seeuriiv- i've been in the security iusiiess— i've been in the security business the business from retiring from the peliee— business from retiring from the police department for 38 years.

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riiieuleus— ? stevie wonder. i mean, this is riiieuleus .— ? stevie wonder. i mean, this is riiieuleus. i— ? stevie wonder. i mean, this is ridiculous. i never— ? stevie wonder. i mean, this is ridiculous . i never heard ridiculous. i never heard aivviiip— ridiculous. i never heard anything like— ridiculous. i never heard anything like this . anything like this. i mean, presumably— anything like this. i mean, presumailv .— anything like this. i mean, presumably , bo, if you were presumably, bo, if you were looking after a couple of high profile celebs all the time and if and if something threatening happened to them, i mean, you'd be on to the police department to come and help immediately, wouldn't you? exactly albie and what we wouldn't you? exactly albie and viai we use— wouldn't you? exactly albie and what we use is— wouldn't you? exactly albie and what we use is a— wouldn't you? exactly albie and what we use is a lot— wouldn't you? exactly albie and what we use is a lot of- 3“ 7 xiii” albie and what we use is a lot of retired ieieeiives— what we use is a lot of retired detectives and _ what we use is a lot of retired detectives and cops. and right away— detectives and cops. and right away veu— detectives and cops. and right away veu veuli— detectives and cops. and right away you would pull the cars veue— away you would pull the cars over. you'd signal— away you would pull the cars over. you'd signal or call on veur— over. you'd signal or call on veur sell— over. you'd signal or call on your cell phone.— over. you'd signal or call on your cell phone. you needed a less— your cell phone. you needed a me ei— your cell phone. you needed a me ei a— your cell phone. you needed a 1085 of a police— your cell phone. you needed a 1085 of a police car . when your cell phone. you needed a 1085 of a police car. when you mere.— 1085 of a police car. when you come there, you— 1085 of a police car. when you come there, you identify veurseli— come there, you identify yourself as— come there, you identify yourself as a— come there, you identify yourself as a retired guy. we're iaviip— yourself as a retired guy. we're having problems— yourself as a retired guy. we're having problems with these iiieis— having problems with these iiieis-leep— having problems with these idiots keep chasing us, idiots that keep chasing us, valimp—eepsl taking pictures. the cops will get taking pictures. the cops will per-ai— taking pictures. the cops will per-av liai- taking pictures. the cops will get-at that time.- taking pictures. the cops will get at that time. then get involved at that time. then viev— get involved at that time. then viev-iiev— get involved at that time. then viev-iiev vvem— get involved at that time. then they-they went-a- get involved at that time. then they they went a police they said they went to a police svaviem— they said they went to a police siaiiem ue— they said they went to a police station. no one— they said they went to a police station. no one helped them. no i station. no one helped them. no i-i-m— station. no one helped them. no i-i-m laughing-— station. no one helped them. no i i'm laughing. nigel and ijust. i'm laughing. nigel and ijust. i'm laughing. nigel and ileve— ijust. i'm laughing. nigel and ileve veu— ijust. i'm laughing. nigel and ileve veu ei— ijust. i'm laughing. nigel and i love you on sid— ijust. i'm laughing. nigel and i love you on sid also, you know i love you on sid also, you know i ie— i love you on sid also, you know i ie sil— i love you on sid also, you know i ie sii viii— i love you on sid also, you know i do sid with you— i love you on sid also, you know i do sid with you also in the memiip— i do sid with you also in the morning they're— i do sid with you also in the morning they're on 77 but i love pie.— morning they're on 77 but i love vie. veur— morning they're on 77 but i love vie. veur. veur— morning they're on 77 but i love the, your, your focus on this. i viiil— the, your, your focus on this. i viiil veu— the, your, your focus on this. i viiil veu are— the, your, your focus on this. i think you are dead right on this mine. — think you are dead right on this mine. iiis— think you are dead right on this limp. iiis is— think you are dead right on this thing. this is another made up sierv— thing. this is another made up sierv. are— thing. this is another made up sierv. are iiev— thing. this is another made up story. are they royal family sill— story. are they royal family siill lei-i— story. are they royal family still don't mean— story. are they royal family still don't mean what are they . still don't mean what are they. viiai— still don't mean what are they.

viiav ar— still don't mean what are they. viiav iiev. — still don't mean what are they. what are they. oh— still don't mean what are they. what are they. oh they- still don't mean what are they. what are they. oh they want to be everything. they want to have it every single which way that loose. they want to keep the titles do work . loose. they want to keep the titles do work. i loose. they want to keep the titles do work . i just titles and do no work. i just wonder this is the wonder whether this is the incident that exposes to the world how frankly dishonour list they actually are . final quick they actually are. final quick thought bo what i've got you given that on the corner of every block there are cameras in new york, is it possible that anybody can get hold of that data so we can recreate it at some point? what really happened ? and well, the police cameras veue— ? and well, the police cameras veure nei— ? and well, the police cameras veure iev peiip— ? and well, the police cameras you're not going to— 7’ and well, the police cameras you're not going to get. but viev— you're not going to get. but viev alse— you're not going to get. but they also have— you're not going to get. but they also have other cameras viere— they also have other cameras viere viev— they also have other cameras where they have,— they also have other cameras where they have, what, the privave— where they have, what, the private businesses. but i think the private businesses. but i think vie peliee— private businesses. but i think vie peliee are— private businesses. but i think the police are investigating iiis— the police are investigating this because— the police are investigating this because it's of an this because it's kind of an embarrassment— this because it's kind of an embarrassment to mayor eric adams— embarrassment to mayor eric alams vial— embarrassment to mayor eric adams that it— embarrassment to mayor eric adams that it went down his adams that it went down in his eiiv. — adams that it went down in his eiiv. l— adams that it went down in his eiiv-i viiil— adams that it went down in his city. -i think that- adams that it went down in his city. i think that they city. and i think that they sieuli—iil city. and i think that they| should—it. and city. and i think that they- should_it. and they should investigate it. and they sieuli— should investigate it. and they sieuli-eui— should investigate it. and they should -out with - should investigate it. and they should out with their should come out with their findings— should come out with their findings and— should come out with their findings and again, whether viev-re— findings and again, whether they're-security. findings and again, whether they're security or they're hiding for security or iiev— they're hiding for security or viev eeuli— they're hiding for security or they could buy— they're hiding for security or they could buy a million they could buy a $12 million ieuse— they could buy a $12 million house-california- they could buy a $12 million house california , well, house out in california, well, you— house out in california, well, veu perver— house out in california, well, veu ievver pav— house out in california, well, veu ievver pay a— house out in california, well, you better pay a little bit more for you better pay a little bit more ier veur— you better pay a little bit more for your security— you better pay a little bit more for your security there. what's ier— for your security there. what'si ier—vviai for your security there. what's. ier—vviai is her name? she a queen. what is sie— her name? she a queen. what is sielieve— her name? she a queen. what is she-now? megan— her name? she a queen. what is she now? megan what's her. she by now? megan what's her. oh, she by now? megan what's her. 0h, me— she by now? megan what's her. 0h, sies— she by now? megan what's her.

oh, no, she's not— she by now? megan what's her. oh, no, she's not a— she by now? megan what's her. oh, no, she's not a queen.- she by now? megan what's her. oh, no, she's not a queen. no no, no, no, no. i can't have that. she's a duchess. maybe not. maybe not for much longer. bo , thank for joining bo diesel, thank you for joining us, your assessment. us, giving us your assessment. i got tell you, i love the got to tell you, i love the stevie wonder line. thank you very much indeed . thank you, my very much indeed. thank you, my friend.— very much indeed. thank you, my irieml eve— very much indeed. thank you, my iriemi. bye bye — very much indeed. thank you, my friend. bye bye. in— very much indeed. thank you, my friend. bye bye. in a— very much indeed. thank you, my friend. bye bye. in a moment, the renters reform bill has come before parliament today. there's been a pretty major announcement in the last 48 hours coming from sir keir starmer. it looks like housing, the cost of housing, the availability of housing could become one of the key issues for next year's

me. so anyway, headline is every night . me. so anyway, headline is every night. yep. it's me. so anyway, headline is every night . yep. it's housing. night. yep. it's housing. ueusimp— “ g“ yep. it's housing. housing housing. keir starmer is going— housing housing. keir starmer is seeing ie— housing housing. keir starmer is seeing ie iuili— housing housing. keir starmer is going to build on— housing housing. keir starmer is going to build on the green ieli. — going to build on the green ieli. ue— going to build on the green ieli. he is— going to build on the green belt. he is going to build the iemes— belt. he is going to build the iemes vve— belt. he is going to build the homes. we need— belt. he is going to build the homes. we need in this country. we iave— homes. we need in this country. we iave. ei— homes. we need in this country. we have, of course,— homes. we need in this country. we have, of course, the renters reermi— we have, of course, the renters reermi pill— we have, of course, the renters reform bill. that's— we have, of course, the renters reform bill. that's finally come ieiere— reform bill. that's finally come before parliament. gove's before parliament. mr gove's masierpieee— before parliament. mr gove's masterpiece-to- before parliament. mr gove's masterpiece. to me before parliament. mr gove's- masterpiece.-to me that masterpiece. it seems to me that will— masterpiece. it seems to me that will iusv— masterpiece. it seems to me that will just reduce— masterpiece. it seems to me that will just reduce the— masterpiece. it seems to me that will just reduce the amount of ieusimp— will just reduce the amount of housing stock— will just reduce the amount of housing stock available to the

remai— housing stock available to the rental sector. _ housing stock available to the rental sector. but— housing stock available to the rental sector. but whichever way you-property— rental sector. but whichever way veu-preperiv is- rental sector. but whichever way you property is becoming you cut it, property is becoming a lip.— you cut it, property is becoming a pig. pip— you cut it, property is becoming a big, big debate.— you cut it, property is becoming a big, big debate. nathan imerse— a big, big debate. nathan emerson-ceo- a big, big debate. nathan emerson ceo property mark, emerson is ceo of property mark, a preiessieial— emerson is ceo of property mark, a professional body— emerson is ceo of property mark, a professional body for the seeier— a professional body for the seeier .— a professional body for the sector . nathan— a professional body for the sector . nathan on the government sector. nathan on the government largel— sector. nathan on the government iarpei is— sector. nathan on the government iarpei is ie— sector. nathan on the government target is to build— sector. nathan on the government target is to build about 300,000 iemes— target is to build about 300,000 iemes a— target is to build about 300,000 iemes a vear— target is to build about 300,000 iemes a vear .— target is to build about 300,000 homes a year. we've not been maveiiip— homes a year. we've not been maieiiip liai— homes a year. we've not been matching that for— homes a year. we've not been matching that for the last few years— matching that for the last few veas iave— matching that for the last few years, have we?— matching that for the last few years, have we? _ matching that for the last few years, have we? �*flv�*ii; matching that for the last few years, have we? “ e years, have we? we haven't, and i think obviously we can take the covid out of the out of the equafion the covid out of the out of the equation there. but for a long time we've not been matching the targets. we've not been creating ing targets. we've not been creating iue-suppiv— targets. we've not been creating iue-suppiv-vve— targets. we've not been creating ing-supply-we need- 3 we've not been creating ing supply we need in ing the supply that we need in emer— ing the supply that we need in erierleaier— ing the supply that we need in order-cater for— ing the supply that we need in order-cater for the- ing the supply that we need in order cater for the obviously order to cater for the obviously the residents— order to cater for the obviously the residents of— order to cater for the obviously the residents of the united liipiem— the residents of the united liipiem . — the residents of the united kingdom . what- the residents of the united kingdom . v3iiv kingdom. what do you say the residents of the kingdom? residents of the united kingdom? what newbies? i mean, what about the newbies? i mean, if net migration is four cast to be £700,000 or more next thursday when it comes out? i worked it out. we'd need a new dwelling every two minutes just to cope with those that are coming in, let alone the shortage that we already have . shortage that we already have. but there are problems here, aren't there? because on the one hand, people say we must build

lots of houses, but on the other, the liberal democrats seem to pick up an awful lot of votes at the local elections by saying we will not build here. how earth i mean, do we how on earth i mean, how do we do never in my backyard. do this? never in my backyard. yeah. well, yeah. the reality is we yeah. well, yeah. the reality is ve iave— yeah. well, yeah. the reality is we iave ve— yeah. well, yeah. the reality is we have to make— yeah. well, yeah. the reality is we have to make sure- yeah. vivi“ the reality is we have to make sure that mere-s— we have to make sure that viere-s a— we have to make sure that there's a blend— we have to make sure that there's a blend and a mix and building— there's a blend and a mix and building new— there's a blend and a mix and building new homes obviously, is aeriieria— building new homes obviously, is a eriieria ve— building new homes obviously, is a criteria we need— building new homes obviously, is a criteria we need to do. but is— a criteria we need to do. but its vie— a criteria we need to do. but it's the prioritisation of land. were— it's the prioritisation of land. were mei— it's the prioritisation of land. we're not creating any more lami— we're not creating any more laml se— we're not creating any more land. so effectively we've got to land. so effectively we've got ie use— land. so effectively we've got ie vial— land. so effectively we've got to use what we've— land. so effectively we've got to use what we've got sparingly ami— to use what we've got sparingly and proportionate— to use what we've got sparingly and proportionate albie we've got and proportionate albie we've pei ie— and proportionate albie we've pei ie alse— and proportionate albie we've got to also build— and proportionate albie we've got to also build for the older resiiems— got to also build for the older residents that— got to also build for the older residents that we've got got an ageing— residents that we've got got an ageing population , we're not ageing population, we're not iuiliiip— ageing population, we're not building enough bungalows and so smaller. — building enough bungalows and so smaller. se— building enough bungalows and so smaller. so for— building enough bungalows and so smaller. so for the— building enough bungalows and so smaller. g “g smaller. so for the ageing population in smaller units, not necessarily smaller but more affordable because what we do have is larger houses which are effectively bottlenecked at the moment with , with older people moment with, with older people staying in them making staying in them and making conversions moving family conversions and moving family in. so we're not releasing some of in. so we're not releasing some ei vie— in. so we're not releasing some ei vie-ieuses— in. so we're not releasing some of the-houses as-soj of the larger houses as well. so to of the larger houses as well. so ie aevualiv— of the larger houses as well. so to actually build— of the larger houses as well. so to actually build the right mix of to actually build the right mix ei preperiies— to actually build the right mix of properties proposed

passionate— of properties proposed passionate to the locations is imperiam— passionate to the locations is imperiam .— passionate to the locations is important. but— passionate to the locations is important. but equally making use important. but equally making ei— important. but equally making use of brownfield sites probably as a prieriiv— use of brownfield sites probably as a priority arnie— use of brownfield sites probably as a priority arnie and refurbishing- as a priority arnie and refurbishing and utilising redundant— refurbishing and utilising redundant commercial buildings is a area— redundant commercial buildings is a great opportunity as well. ami— is a great opportunity as well. ail mv— is a great opportunity as well. lie mv verv— is a great opportunity as well. and my worry with initially peeple— and my worry with initially people thinking green belt is the people thinking green belt is iie aisvver— people thinking green belt is the answer . _ people thinking green belt is the answer. and- people thinking green belt is the answer . ' the answer. and certainly we've mentioned areas of outstanding natural beauty. it also provides natural beauty. it also provides natural wedges. it also provides green— natural wedges. it also provides green corridors— natural wedges. it also provides green corridors . _ natural wedges. it also provides green corridors . so— natural wedges. it also provides green corridors . so it- natural wedges. it also provides green corridors . so it has- 33 it also provides green corridors . e green corridors. so it has to be thought through very, very carefully. if we get rid of the green— carefully. if we get rid of the green pelv— carefully. if we get rid of the green belt around— i if we get rid of the green belt around london, london will sprawl— green belt around london, london will sprawl onto— green belt around london, london will sprawl onto the south coast ami— will sprawl onto the south coast and up— will sprawl onto the south coast and up revaris— will sprawl onto the south coast and up towards birmingham. iasieallv— and up towards birmingham. basically-been- and up towards birmingham. basically been talking basically we've been talking a lot basically we've been talking a lei aieui— basically we've been talking a lot about gove's— basically we've been talking a lot about gove's plans for laiileris— lot about gove's plans for landlords and— lot about gove's plans for landlords and making the point repeaveilv— landlords and making the point repeaveilv ei— landlords and making the point repeatedly on this program that mesv— repeatedly on this program that most landlords— repeatedly on this program that most landlords are not rich peeple— most landlords are not rich people- they've— most landlords are not rich people. they've inherited a flat or people. they've inherited a flat era small— people. they've inherited a flat or a small house— people. they've inherited a flat or a small house and they're remimp— or a small house and they're remiip iv— or a small house and they're renting it out— or a small house and they're renting it out as— or a small house and they're renting it out as a basically ier— renting it out as a basically income for their— renting it out as a basically income for their retirement. any sieels— income for their retirement. any sieels veiav— income for their retirement. any shocks today from _ income for their retirement. any shocks today from what michael eeve — shocks today from what michael eeve ias— shocks today from what michael eeve ias pui— shocks today from what michael gove has put before us? \viiv gove has put before us? no, i viiml— gove has put before us? no, i iiiml mesv— gove has put before us? no, i think most of— gove has put before us? no, i think most of it— gove has put before us? no, i think most of it has been gradually leaked out. we certainly section 21 g: 3 we certainly section 21 was a

gradually leaked out. we- certainly section 21 was a major eemmiimem— certainly section 21 was a major commitment and— certainly section 21 was a major commitment and they are delivering— commitment and they are delivering on— commitment and they are delivering on that as as premised— delivering on that as as premisei . — delivering on that as as promised. ' 3 delivering on that as as promised . “v3 delivering on that as as promised . ' 3 i: promised. and so that will certainly be an area which will be a focus for landlords and it will be an area of now this is the no fault evictions, correct? so this is what's termed as a no fault eviction. it is the mechanism _ fault eviction. it is the mechanism that- vi. i“ it is the mechanism that as a landlord fault eviction. it is the- mechanism that as a landlord or an mechanism that as a landlord or am apem— mechanism that as a landlord or am apem ei— mechanism that as a landlord or an agent on behalf— mechanism that as a landlord or an agent on behalf of a lamilerrl— an agent on behalf of a landlord, you- an agent on behalf of a landlord, you would give the repair— landlord, you would give the veiam a— landlord, you would give the tenant a notice— landlord, you would give the tenant a notice period to quit. or tenant a notice period to quit. er-eiier— tenant a notice period to quit. or-other option- tenant a notice period to quit. or-other option is- tenant a notice period to quit. or other option is what's or the other option is what's called— or the other option is what's eallei—aiil or the other option is what's. called—and that called a section eight, and that is new— called a section eight, and that is vial— called a section eight, and that is now what the— called a section eight, and that is now what the mechanism that the government— is now what the mechanism that the government is— is now what the mechanism that the government is wanting us to use the government is wanting us to . iiev-re— the government is wanting us to use . they're broadening the use. they're broadening the seepe— use. they're broadening the seepe ei— use. they're broadening the scope of that— use. they're broadening the scope of that to— use. they're broadening the scope of that to try and incur amiseeiai— scope of that to try and incur antisocial behaviour or a lack of antisocial behaviour or a lack ei remai— antisocial behaviour or a lack of rental payment and to make vial— of rental payment and to make via a— of rental payment and to make via a musi— of rental payment and to make that a much more— of rental payment and to make that a much more robust tool. i ei— that a much more robust tool. i mean, of course there- that a much more robust tool. i mean, of course there are- that a much more robust tool. i mean, of course there are some rotten landlords out there, some really nasty mean , horrible, not really nasty mean, horrible, not all modern day rachman's , but all modern day rachman's, but there are some rotten but there are most infamous one ever. i think. but of course there were some rotten landlords and terrible problems getting deposits back all sorts of deposits back and all sorts of things go but things that go on. but ultimately , my fear and the

ultimately, my fear and the reason i keep covering this story is we have a shorter age of letting accommodation in university towns . rents in university towns. rents in london are up almost 20% in the last year, and everyone's telling me, nathan , that with telling me, nathan, that with this renters reform bill that we finally seen today, which as you say, has no shocks or surprise, is in it, a lot of people will say, you know what? the hell with it. we've borrowed money to buy this property. we're now making a loss on it. we're just going to sell this property and it leaves the rental sector. i mean, how big a crisis are we facing? we are seeing a lot of stress in system, probably stress in the system, probably no to housebuilding. no different to housebuilding. we built. we need more houses built. ueieuv— we need more houses built. ueieuv aruesg— we need more houses built. nobody argues-that- we need more houses built. nobody argues-that .. we need more houses built. i nobody argues-that . but we need more houses built. nobody argues that . but we nobody argues with that. but we need mix rental need more mix of rental properties and the current regime or criteria that sits there surrounding is causing angst amongst landlords and not creating the environment. need to get more into the sector to provide good standard homes of a decent standard for tenants that

actually genuinely want and need long term accommodation . often long term accommodation. often there isn't enough social housing to cater. we do need the private sector to support and you know, you look at the renters reform bill, the devil will be in the detail with that because there are areas in there which obviously we've had the headunes which obviously we've had the headlines from them. but it's now the scrutinisation - headlines from them. but it's now the scrutinisation of- 3 but it's now the scrutinisation of how lees— now the scrutinisation of how lees liai— now the scrutinisation of how does that come— now the scrutinisation of how does that come into practise? i'll does that come into practise? in vell— does that come into practise? in iell veu— does that come into practise? i'll tell you what,— does that come into practise? i'll tell you what, you're- does that come into practise? i'll tell you what, you're going to be very busy over the course of next couple years of the next couple of years because debate going to because this debate is going to run run. well, the other run and run. well, the other lelaie— run and run. well, the other lelaie liai— run and run. well, the other debate that i've— run and run. well, the other debate that i've been- “ vii“: “ well, the other debate that i've been talking aleui— debate that i've been talking aleui iiis— debate that i've been talking about this week— debate that i've been talking about this week my absolute about this week is my absolute disappointment— about this week is my absolute disappointm have— about this week is my absolute disappointm have not deregulated about this week is my absolute disapeu ntm have not deregulated about this week is my absolute disapeu rules,ive not deregulated about this week is my absolute disapeu rules, makingieregulated about this week is my absolute disapeu rules, making it'egulated about this week is my absolute disapeu rules, making it much:ed from eu rules, making it much easierlleir— from eu rules, making it much easier keir starmer if he easier for keir starmer if he vvamel— easier for keir starmer if he vvamellie.— easier for keir starmer if he wanted .t0,-us- easier for keir starmer if he wanted to, us back into wanted to to, take us back into eiieeiivelv— wanted to to, take us back into effectively single— wanted to to, take us back into effectively single market rules. ail— effectively single market rules. ail iere— effectively single market rules. and here .was_ effectively single market rules. and here was being and here he was being interviewed— and here he was being interviewed on and here he was being- interviewed-on today. interviewed earlier on today. ile— interviewed earlier on today. iie specific— interviewed earlier on today. the specific question- interviewed earlier on today. the specific question of- interviewed earlier on today. the specific question of the brexit deal, look , we're not brexit deal, look, we're not going to re—enter the eu . we do going to re—enter the eu. we do need to improve that deal. we need. so you could renegotiate. well all it comes up for renewal. and of course , we want renewal. and of course, we want a closer trading relationship.

yes, absolutely. do we want a closer trading relation ship? we want to ensure that vauxhall and many others can not just survive in this country , but thrive in in this country, but thrive in this because there are jobs bound up there. there'll be families watching this morning either are employed at vauxhall or similar places, deeply worried about what this means. so, yes, we need a better brexit deal so, yes, we need a better brexit deal. we will make brexit work that doesn't mean reversing the decision going back into the eu, but the deal we've got you know, it said to be oven ready. it it was said to be oven ready. it wasn't even half baked. so of course we've got to repair that along all other things along with all the other things that repair if and that we'll have to repair if and when we're privileged to come into government and because so few have been taken off few eu rules have been taken off the statute book, basically the statute book, but basically none substance, it would none of any substance, it would be very, very easy for keir starmer to sign us back up to single market rules. an 80 seat majority single market rules. an 80 seat maieriiv ail— single market rules. an 80 seat majority and they've— “gi an 80 seat majority and they've done ieiiiip— majority and they've done nothing with _ majority and they've done nothing with it. a final thought for nothing with it. a final thought fer-segmem.— nothing with it. a final thought for-segment. i've- nothing with it. a final thought for segment. i've been for this segment. i've been iellimp— for this segment. i've been iellimp-ier— for this segment. i've been telling-for the - for this segment. i've been telling for the two telling you for the last two eels — telling you for the last two eels ii— telling you for the last two eels ii veu— telling you for the last two weeks, if you want to, please veie — weeks, if you want to, please veielme— weeks, if you want to, please veielmeliie- weeks, if you want to, please vote me the annual vote for me for the annual ielevisiei— vote for me for the annual.

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vauxhall motors, in just a

so we're going for all electric ailer— so we're going for all electric cars after 2030. _ so we're going for all electric cars after 2030. that was boris reiisei. — cars after 2030. that was boris ieiisem rial— cars after 2030. that was boris johnson. that should be fairly straightforward _ johnson. that should be fairly straightforward and easy now, sieulli-i— straightforward and easy now, shouldn't it?— straightforward and easy now, shouldn't it? but— straightforward and easy now, shouldn't it? but the problem is, shouldn't it? but the problem is. ei— shouldn't it? but the problem is. ei eeurse— shouldn't it? but the problem is, of course, we— shouldn't it? but the problem is, of course, we don't manufacture - is, of course, we don't manufacture enough batteries in this manufacture enough batteries in iiis—lei- manufacture enough batteries in iiis—pei eie- this country. we've got one plam— this country. we've got one plant-running,- this country. we've got one plant running, another plant up and running, another periaps—vviieil plant up and running, another- perhaps_which means perhaps on the way, which means we perhaps on the way, which means ve-ie— perhaps on the way, which means ve-ie imperi— perhaps on the way, which means we-to import them.- perhaps on the way, which means we to import them. that we have to import them. that mei— we have to import them. that iiei leals— we have to import them. that then leads directly to technical prellems— then leads directly to technical problems-exports- then leads directly to technical problems exports to the problems with exports to the iurepeai— problems with exports to the european union— problems with exports to the european union due to something eallel— european union due to something eallel rules— european union due to something called rules of— european union due to something called rules of origin , which i called rules of origin, which i vvei-i— called rules of origin, which i vvei-i le— called rules of origin, which i vvei-v pe ime— called rules of origin, which i won't go into now, but what does the won't go into now, but what does iie ar— won't go into now, but what does iie iilusirv— won't go into now, but what does the car industry do?— won't go into now, but what does the car industry do? it matters seeooo— the car industry do? it matters sooeoo leis— the car industry do? it matters 800,000 jobs involved. well, you iearl— 800,000 jobs involved. well, you heard vauxhall— 800,000 jobs involved. well, you heard vauxhall mentioned by keir siarmer— heard vauxhall mentioned by keir siarmer a— heard vauxhall mentioned by keir starmer a moment— heard vauxhall mentioned by keir starmer a moment ago . tim tozer starmer a moment ago. tim tozer is ie— starmer a moment ago. tim tozer is iie iermer— starmer a moment ago. tim tozer is the former chairman and managing— is the former chairman and managing director lot of news iealiiies— managing director lot of news headlines today. _ managing director lot of news headlines today. tim you know aleui— headlines today. tim you know aleui lie— headlines today. tim you know about the car— headlines today. tim you know about the car sector, the prellems— about the car sector, the problems we— about the car sector, the problems we face. how do we get ime— problems we face. how do we get ime iiis— problems we face. how do we get into this mess?— problems we face. how do we get into this mess? well look, first of into this mess? well look, first ei ail— into this mess? well look, first ei all i— into this mess? well look, first ei all i is— into this mess? well look, first ei all i is a— into this mess? well look, first of all, it is a big— into this mess? well look, first of all, it is a big deal for stellantis. _ of all, it is a big deal for stellantis. i— of all, it is a big deal for stellantis. i mean, the who are the stellantis. i mean, the who are iie evmers— stellantis. i mean, the who are the owners of— stellantis. i mean, the who are the owners of vauxhall, they are the owners of vauxhall, they are iie evmers— the owners of vauxhall, they are iie ei— the owners of vauxhall, they are the owners of vauxhall. ' “v3 the owners of vauxhall. and mailer— the owners of vauxhall. and another range _ the owners of vauxhall. and another range of— the owners of vauxhall. and another range of brands, peugeot, citroen, etcetera. so they're company. they make peugeot, citroen, etcetera. so thmillion company. they make peugeot, citroen, etcetera. so thmillion cars ompany. they make peugeot, citroen, etcetera. so thmillion cars anpany. they make peugeot, citroen, etcetera. so thmillion cars a year, '. they make peugeot, citroen, etcetera. so thmillion cars a year, about make peugeot, citroen, etcetera. so thmillion cars a year, about ofake 6 million cars a year, about of which only 200,000,

approximately are are manufactured in the uk . but the manufactured in the uk. but the issue they're up against is that if you break all the bits and pieces that go into a car and then assess the value to avoid a 10% import duty into the eu, the value of the bits made in the uk and including the eu actually has to be above 45. and he's basically saying he can't do that. basically saying he can't do that . and that is principally that. and that is principally because there's no battery manufacturer close to ellesmere port or luton and so he's staring down the barrel of 10% imports taxes as they go into as they export into the eu. but that's because we're but that's because we're going for all eleeirie— that's because we're going for all electric cars. _ that's because we're going for all electric cars. if we were siieliil— all electric cars. if we were siieliip ii— all electric cars. if we were sticking if we _ all electric cars. if we were sticking if we were sticking viii— sticking if we were sticking with internal— sticking if we were sticking with internal combustion engine ve-iei le- with internal combustion engine cars, we not be facing cars, we would not be facing liai— cars, we would not be facing viav prellem— cars, we would not be facing that problem. and you know, i ieiieel— that problem. and you know, i noticed that— that problem. and you know, i noticed that in— that problem. and you know, i noticed that in germany in the eu.— noticed that in germany in the iu. iiev-ve— noticed that in germany in the eu, they've said,— noticed that in germany in the eu, they've said, well, hang on a second, we're— eu, they've said, well, hang on a second, we're going to keep imemal— a second, we're going to keep internal combustion engines, eleeirie— internal combustion engines, eleeirie. ii-s— internal combustion engines, electric. it's-if- internal combustion engines, electric. it's if you want electric. it's fine if you want to-go _ electric. it's fine if you want ie-pe ier— electric. it's fine if you want to-go for more- electric. it's fine if you want to go for more efficient to and go for more efficient fuel— to and go for more efficient iuel isi-i— to and go for more efficient fuel. isn't this— to and go for more efficient fuel. isn't this a—

to and go for more efficient fuel. isn't this a direct resulie— fuel. isn't this a direct result? now,- fuel. isn't this a direct result? now, some will say, ah, it's result? now, some will say, ah, is all— result? now, some will say, ah, it's all because— result? now, some will say, ah, it's all because of— result? now, some will say, ah, it's all because of brexit. but isi-i— it's all because of brexit. but isi-i-ei— it's all because of brexit. but isi-i-ei iiis- it's all because of brexit. but isn't of this current isn't the truth of this current lispuie — isn't the truth of this current dispute -actually- isn't the truth of this current dispute actually this mad dispute that actually this mad rusi— dispute that actually this mad rusi ier— dispute that actually this mad rusi ier nei— dispute that actually this mad rush for net zero— dispute that actually this mad rush for net zero was put in place— rush for net zero was put in place without _ rush for net zero was put in place without thought or plamiipe— place without thought or planning? that place without thought or- planning?-that programme planning? i mean, that programme to planning? i mean, that programme ie-iiai— planning? i mean, that programme ie-iiai ii— planning? i mean, that programme to-that it beyond— planning? i mean, that programme to that it beyond 2030? iii to say that it beyond 2030? no peirel— to say that it beyond 2030? no pelrel engine— to say that it beyond 2030? no petrol engine or— to say that it beyond 2030? no petrol engine or diesel engine car could be sold in the uk which was five years earlier than the eu had adopted was a piece of virtue signalling from our old friend boris. that's what it was all about. and the critical thing with the car industry is, i mean if you design a car and then wonder how long it's going to to take be built and come off the production line, it's about five years so government years and so the government actually, afraid to say, actually, i'm afraid to say, have not been awake on all of these risks that are now staring them asleep at the metaphorical wheel. i think asleep at the wheel. i think asleep at the wheel . so, for example, i mean, wheel. so, for example, i mean, bmw in oxford, where currently they make the electric mini. i mean, we know that that electric version in the next generation

of minis is going to be built in china and china is the dominant force in electric vehicles. i think even we could suggest that that the 10% import wall that the eu are putting around themselves is designed to protect the european car industry, the continental european activity from chinese imports, which i sort of half get . but imports, which i sort of half get. but you're right. i mean this, this but with chinese , this, this but with chinese, with with chinese access to the raw materials, given what they've done in africa, we can never compete in this market. they control 80% of cobalt. mere-s— they control 80% of cobalt. iiere-s ieer— they control 80% of cobalt. there's been some- they control 80% of cobalt. there's been some studies which have said that the amount of lithium that would be needed if the uk market was 100% pure ev you'd need another 15 lithium mines. now you're not going to get that. so the one thing the industry needs now is a delay and time with government support. and i don't necessarily mean financial support. government has to engage with strategically what needs to be

done to protect what your car industry in the uk extend by 2030 deadline. give us time to reiiiil— 2030 deadline. give us time to rethink strategically— $7030 3: give us time to rethink strategically what we sieull — rethink strategically what we sieull le. — rethink strategically what we sieull le. i— rethink strategically what we should do. i think absolutely liai— should do. i think absolutely that because— should do. i think absolutely that because if— should do. i think absolutely that because if you do not do mal— that because if you do not do iiai. veu— that because if you do not do vial veu are— that because if you do not do that, you are putting at risk lie— that, you are putting at risk the investments— that, you are putting at risk the investments made by existing plelal— the investments made by existing plelal auie— the investments made by existing global auto companies because iiev-re— global auto companies because iiev-re all— global auto companies because they're all global— global auto companies because they're all global now. ”v“ii; they're all global now. there's no car industry— they're all global now. there's no car industry that is british. it's all a global car industry in britain and they want to see something that they can get a return on investment out of this market. it's the way the world works and it's a bit troubling. the government need to up their game. tozer, thank you game. tim tozer, thank you for that clarity those points . that clarity on those points. isn't funny all the green is isn't it funny all the green is iiiil— isn't it funny all the green is think building— isn't it funny all the green is think building 15— isn't it funny all the green is think building 15 lithium mines is alseluielv— think building 15 lithium mines is absolutely great, but just to epei— is absolutely great, but just to epem ee— is absolutely great, but just to epem seal— is absolutely great, but just to open one coal mine up in cumbria for open one coal mine up in cumbria ier lie— open one coal mine up in cumbria ier iie lriiisi— open one coal mine up in cumbria for the british steel— open one coal mine up in cumbria for the british steel industry semeie— for the british steel industry semeie is— for the british steel industry somehow is an— for the british steel industry somehow is an act of environmental destruction. i can luiie— environmental destruction. i can luive lei— environmental destruction. i can never quite get my— environmental destruction. i can never quite get my head around it never quite get my head around ii ievv— never quite get my head around i .— never quite get my head around ii . nev.— never quite get my head around i . uev. ei— never quite get my head around it now . now, on the 17th of may, it now. now, on the 17th of may, iems.— it now. now, on the 17th of may, iezs. a— it now. now, on the 17th of may, iezs. a vvemai— it now. now, on the 17th of may, 1923, a woman called betty

rerlus— 1923, a woman called betty ierpus vas— 1923, a woman called betty fergus was born— 1923, a woman called betty fergus was born , and she lives fergus was born, and she lives ielav— fergus was born, and she lives ielav ii— fergus was born, and she lives today in broadway . today in broadway. worcestershire. betty, it is veur— worcestershire. betty, it is veur ioom— worcestershire. betty, it is your 100th birthday. i've been iell— your 100th birthday. i've been iell iv— your 100th birthday. i've been veil iv seei— your 100th birthday. i've been told by geoff marchant, family irieil— told by geoff marchant, family irieil .— told by geoff marchant, family irieil . liai— told by geoff marchant, family friend , that you've always been friend, that you've always been a iii— friend, that you've always been a iii ei— friend, that you've always been a iii ei a— friend, that you've always been a iii ei a lai— friend, that you've always been a bit of a fan of— friend, that you've always been a bit of a fan of mine, that you vvaiei— a bit of a fan of mine, that you vaiei iiis— a bit of a fan of mine, that you watch this show— a bit of a fan of mine, that you watch this show every single lav. — watch this show every single lav. se— watch this show every single day- so happy— watch this show every single day. so happy 100th birthday, ieiiv— day. so happy 100th birthday, ieiiv .— day. so happy 100th birthday, ievvv . please— day. so happy 100th birthday, betty . please enjoy the day . betty. please enjoy the day. laise— betty. please enjoy the day. laise a— betty. please enjoy the day. raise a glass.— betty. please enjoy the day. raise a glass. we're thinking of you raise a glass. we're thinking of veu ail— raise a glass. we're thinking of veu ail iiaml— raise a glass. we're thinking of you and thank you for your supperi— you and thank you for your supperi .— you and thank you for your supperi . elav— you and thank you for your support . okay it is time, support. okay it is time, i mill.— support. okay it is time, i iiiil. ievv— support. okay it is time, i think, now for— support. okay it is time, i think, now for us to move on to iamau— think, now for us to move on to iamau lile.— think, now for us to move on to bannau erg, the— think, now for us to move on to bannau erg, the farage. and the firs— bannau erg, the farage. and the iirsi up— bannau erg, the farage. and the iirsi up is— bannau erg, the farage. and the first up is kieran_ bannau erg, the farage. and the first up is kieran from hull. hi, first up is kieran from hull. ii. mv— first up is kieran from hull. ui. mv ame— first up is kieran from hull. hi, my name is— first up is kieran from hull. hi, my name is kieran and i want veur— hi, my name is kieran and i want veur epiiiei— hi, my name is kieran and i want veur epiiiei ei— hi, my name is kieran and i want your opinion on the— hi, my name is kieran and i want your opinion on the economic siaie— your opinion on the economic siaie ei— your opinion on the economic siaie ei lie— your opinion on the economic state of the world right now . state of the world right now. well— state of the world right now. well ii-s— state of the world right now. well is a— state of the world right now. well, it's a world living on leii— well, it's a world living on leii. i— well, it's a world living on debt. i mean,— well, it's a world living on debt. i mean, remember that in zoos— debt. i mean, remember that in zoos vve— debt. i mean, remember that in 2008 we finished— debt. i mean, remember that in 2008 we finished up with a sell— 2008 we finished up with a credit crunch,— 2008 we finished up with a credit crunch, a— 2008 we finished up with a credit crunch, a massive everevieil— credit crunch, a massive overextend of- credit crunch, a massive overextend of debt, and it pariieularlv— overextend of debt, and it particularly hit— overextend of debt, and it particularly hit in in the ieusiip— particularly hit in in the housing market in america with all seris— housing market in america with all seris ei— housing market in america with all sorts of very— housing market in america with all sorts of very odd bundled up meripape— all sorts of very odd bundled up mortgage products— all sorts of very odd bundled up mortgage products being sold to peeple— mortgage products being sold to peeple vie.— mortgage products being sold to people who, frankly, when tough limes— people who, frankly, when tough iimes iii—

people who, frankly, when tough times hit them,— people who, frankly, when tough times hit them, couldn't make the times hit them, couldn't make vie pavmepis— times hit them, couldn't make the payments. what i would say to the payments. what i would say ie veu— the payments. what i would say ie veu is— the payments. what i would say ie veu is liai— the payments. what i would say to you is that the— the payments. what i would say to you is that the world is more iileiiel— to you is that the world is more iileiiel ievv— to you is that the world is more indebted now. the— to you is that the world is more indebted now. the western world is more indebted— indebted now. the western world is more indebted now than it was at is more indebted now than it was ai lie— is more indebted now than it was ai iie lime— is more indebted now than it was ai iie iime ei— is more indebted now than it was at the time of the— is more indebted now than it was at the time of the crisis in zoos. — at the time of the crisis in zoos. ail— at the time of the crisis in 2008. and i'm— at the time of the crisis in 2008. and i'm talking national leii— 2008. and i'm talking national leiv. rusi— 2008. and i'm talking national debt. just look— 2008. and i'm talking national debt. just look at— 2008. and i'm talking national debt. just look at our national leii— debt. just look at our national leii. i— debt. just look at our national leii. i mean— debt. just look at our national debt. i mean, it's— debt. just look at our national debt. i mean, it's ballooning . debt. i mean, it's ballooning. ii-s— debt. i mean, it's ballooning. ii-s preiiv— debt. i mean, it's ballooning. it's pretty much— debt. i mean, it's ballooning. it's pretty much now at 100% of our annual gross— it's pretty much now at 100% of our annual gross domestic preluei— our annual gross domestic preluev. iie— our annual gross domestic product. the same can be said of eerperaie— product. the same can be said of eerperaie leii— product. the same can be said of corporate debt and— product. the same can be said of corporate debt and of personal leii— corporate debt and of personal leii. ail— corporate debt and of personal debt. and here's— corporate debt and of personal debt. and here's joe biden speiliip— debt. and here's joe biden spending money, borrowing money on spending money, borrowing money ei a level— spending money, borrowing money on a level that— spending money, borrowing money on a level that we— spending money, borrowing money on a level that we can't even ielieve— on a level that we can't even believe. there— on a level that we can't even believe. there are— on a level that we can't even believe. there are some that say we will— believe. there are some that say we will seme— believe. there are some that say we will come out— believe. there are some that say we will come out of— believe. there are some that say we will come out of covid. we will— we will come out of covid. we will seme— we will come out of covid. we will come out— we will come out of covid. we will come out of— we will come out of covid. we will come out of excessive debt viii — will come out of excessive debt viii a— will come out of excessive debt viii a verv— will come out of excessive debt viii a verv. verv— will come out of excessive debt with a very, very soft economic lailiip— with a very, very soft economic lailiip .— with a very, very soft economic lailiip . ail— with a very, very soft economic landing . and there won't be landing. and there won't be a recession in the— landing. and there won't be a recession in the latter part of iiis— recession in the latter part of is vear. — recession in the latter part of is vear. i— recession in the latter part of this year. i have— recession in the latter part of this year. i have to say, persepallv— this year. i have to say, personally, i- this year. i have to say, personally, i feel a bit more iearisi— personally, i feel a bit more bearish than— personally, i feel a bit more bearish than that. i just don't iiiil— bearish than that. i just don't iiiil veu— bearish than that. i just don't viiil veu am— bearish than that. i just don't think you can go— bearish than that. i just don't think you can go on creating iumv— think you can go on creating iumv meiev— think you can go on creating funny money indefinitely without at funny money indefinitely without ai seme— funny money indefinitely without ai peim— funny money indefinitely without at some point in— funny money indefinitely without at some point in time there being— at some point in time there being something of a reckoning. and being something of a reckoning. ail liais— being something of a reckoning. ail iiai-s viv— being something of a reckoning. and that's why on— being something of a reckoning. and that's why on this program, i-ve— and that's why on this program, be sail— and that's why on this program, be sail ie— and that's why on this program, i've said to you— and that's why on this 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investment— it's not my job to give you investment advice, i think gold ie— investment advice, i think gold ie a— investment advice, i think gold ie a verv— investment advice, i think gold can be a very safe— investment advice, i think gold can be a very safe haven in limes— can be a very safe haven in iimes lile— can be a very safe haven in times like this— can be a very safe haven in times like this ._ can be a very safe haven in times like this . and despite all times like this. and despite all the times like this. and despite all iie seepiies— times like this. and despite all iie seepiies .— times like this. and despite all the sceptics , i— times like this. and despite all the sceptics , i tell you what the sceptics, i tell you what lie— the sceptics, i tell you what iie veril— the sceptics, i tell you what the world of— the sceptics, i tell you what the world of crypto has not yet eeie— the world of crypto has not yet peie avav— the world of crypto has not yet peie avav. elav— the world of crypto has not yet gone away. okay let's go to iaria— gone away. okay let's go to iaria irem — gone away. okay let's go to daria from hull— gone away. okay let's go to daria from hull for the next luesiiei— daria from hull for the next luesiiei . — daria from hull for the next luesiiei. ii— daria from hull for the next question . hi, my- daria from hull for the next question . daria from hull for the next question. i question. hi, my name is daria and i would like to know why did your three main reasons why did your three main reasons why did you push for brexit in may? the uk leave the eu now ? number one, uk leave the eu now? number one, i uk leave the eu now? number one, i ielieve— uk leave the eu now? number one, i ielieve ii— uk leave the eu now? number one, i ielieve ii mv— uk leave the eu now? number one, i believe in my country.— i believe in my country. i ielieve— i believe in my country. i believe that— i believe in my country. i believe that it- i believe in my country. i believe that it should be independent,— believe that it should be independent, free and proud umier— independent, free and proud umier me.— independent, free and proud number two, i— independent, free and proud number two, i believe in lemeeraev— number two, i believe in lemeeraev .— number two, i believe in lemeeraev. i— number two, i believe in democracy . i think those that democracy. i think those that male— democracy. i think those that male eur— democracy. i think those that make our laws— democracy. i think those that make our laws should be subject to make our laws should be subject ie us— make our laws should be subject ie us being— make our laws should be subject to us being able— make our laws should be subject to us being able to— make our laws should be subject to us being able to get rid of iiem — to us being able to get rid of iiem ail— to us being able to get rid of them and elections and turfed iiem — them and elections and turfed iiem eul— them and elections and turfed iiem eui ail— them and elections and turfed them out and replace them with semeielv— them out and replace them with somebody else. _ them out and replace them with somebody else. and the third reason for wanting brexit, you lieu— reason for wanting brexit, you lievv. i— reason for wanting brexit, you lievv. i ame— reason for wanting brexit, you know, i came into— reason for wanting brexit, you know, i came into politics from iusiiess— know, i came into politics from iusiiess ail— know, i came into politics from iusiiess ail i— know, i came into politics from business and i it's— know, i came into politics from business and i it's funny , isn't business and i it's funny, isn't it? business and i it's funny, isn't i all— business and i it's funny, isn't i all lie— business and i it's funny, isn't it? all the people— business and i it's funny, isn't it? all the people involved with the it? all the people involved with iie irevii— it? all the people involved with the brexit debate— it? all the people involved with the brexit debate on either sile— the brexit debate on either sile. i— the brexit debate on either sile. i vvas— the brexit debate on either side, i was one— the brexit debate on either side, i was one of the few peiuiielv— side, i was one of the few genuinely involved with international- genuinely involved with international trade moving, iraliip— international trade moving, trading, commodities, all around the trading, commodities, all around iie pleie— trading, commodities, all around vie pleie ail— trading, commodities, all around iie pleie ail i— trading, commodities, all around the globe and i very much take

the globe and i very much take iie view— the globe and i very much take the view that— the globe and i very much take the view that our— the globe and i very much take the view that our future. yes, of course , sovereign, putting of course, sovereign, putting peeple— of course, sovereign, putting our own people first, but our iuiure— our own people first, but our iuiure vill— our own people first, but our future will be— our own people first, but our future will be as— our own people first, but our future will be as a global iraliil— future will be as a global trading nation.- future will be as a global trading nation. europe is leeliiimp— trading nation. europe is declining in— trading nation. europe is declining in economic importance in ie— declining in economic importance in iie verll. — declining in economic importance in the world. there— declining in economic importance in the world. there are many eiier— in the world. there are many other countries— in the world. there are many other countries that are growing verv— other countries that are growing verv. verv— other countries that are growing verv. verv luiellv.— other countries that are growing very, very quickly. and i peiuiielv— very, very quickly. and i genuinely believe that we can be far ieiier— genuinely believe that we can be far ieiier eli— genuinely believe that we can be far better off with— genuinely believe that we can be far better off with brexit than iel— far better off with brexit than iiel ie — far better off with brexit than iiel ie a— far better off with brexit than tied to a sclerotic over iurleiel— tied to a sclerotic over burdened model from brussels . burdened model from brussels. ail— burdened model from brussels. ail liai— burdened model from brussels. ail iiai is— burdened model from brussels. and that is why— burdened model from brussels. and that is why my anger at the cemservaiive— and that is why my anger at the conservative party— and that is why my anger at the conservative party is as it is. they— conservative party is as it is. iiev iave— conservative party is as it is. iiev iave iel— conservative party is as it is. they have not got rid of excessive regulation in teeing it excessive regulation in teeing ii up— excessive regulation in teeing ii up ier— excessive regulation in teeing iv up ier leir— excessive regulation in teeing it up for keir starmer dumas as you— it up for keir starmer dumas as veu sa— it up for keir starmer dumas as veu iiis— it up for keir starmer dumas as you saw this morning on that bbc irealiasi— you saw this morning on that bbc breakfast interview— you saw this morning on that bbc breakfast interview to put a sirailii— breakfast interview to put a straight back— breakfast interview to put a straight back into single market rules— straight back into single market rules .— straight back into single market rules . iui— straight back into single market rules . iui i— straight back into single market rules , but i won't— straight back into single market rules , but i won't take it out rules, but i won't take it out on rules, but i won't take it out as vaeei— rules, but i won't take it out on jacob rees—mogg. that veulli-i— on jacob rees—mogg. that wouldn't be— on jacob rees—mogg. that wouldn't be right and i wouldn't be wouldn't be right and i wouldn't ie iair. — wouldn't be right and i wouldn't ie iair. ail— wouldn't be right and i wouldn't be fair. and jacob,— wouldn't be right and i wouldn't be fair. and jacob, what are we iailiil— be fair. and jacob, what are we valliip aieui— be fair. and jacob, what are we talking about today? what are we going— talking about today? what are we peiil ie— talking about today? what are we peiip ie ie— talking about today? what are we going to be talking about? vell— going to be talking about? viell. vvere— going to be talking about? well, we're going- going to be talking about? well, we're going to- going to be talking about? well, we're going to be talking about this attack on landlords that's going shrink the that's going to shrink the private rental sector. up until the 1980s, with margaret thatcher's reforms, the private rental getting rental sector was getting smaller and smaller. why? because people couldn't get

their properties back . if you their properties back. if you want to have choice for tenants, if have low rents, if you want to have low rents, you need a deep and active market, which means respecting the rights property and these the rights of property and these reforms that are being proposed are short sighted, bad policy are so short sighted, bad policy and answer to the and not the answer to the shortage of properties, which is the to build more homes the failure to build more homes . yeah, i mean, look, you know, iie— . yeah, i mean, look, you know, iie sale— . yeah, i mean, look, you know, iie sale ei— . yeah, i mean, look, you know, the sale of private— yeah, i mean, look, you know, the sale of private of council ieuses— the sale of private of council ieuses im— the sale of private of council houses in thatcher's time was imevaiive— houses in thatcher's time was imevaiive-verv- houses in thatcher's time was innovative very successful. innovative and very successful. i innovative and very successful. i-eeuil— innovative and very successful. i-eeuil-aili i mean, we could criticise and sav—seeial- i mean, we could criticise and| say—social housing say not enough social housing vvasm-— say not enough social housing was-ei-eiier- say not enough social housingi was-on -other- but was built on the other side, but it was built on the other side, but i was— was built on the other side, but i vasliell— was built on the other side, but it waslhell of— was built on the other side, but it waslhell of a— was built on the other side, but it was hell of a policy. but it was a hell of a policy. but vials— it was a hell of a policy. but what's happened— it was a hell of a policy. but what's happened michael gove? what's happened to michael gove? i what's happened to michael gove? i mean— what's happened to michael gove? i mean, michael— what's happened to michael gove? i mean, michael gove was a lealer— i mean, michael gove was a lealer vriier— i mean, michael gove was a leader writer times , a leader writer on the times, a eeiservaiive— leader writer on the times, a conservative thinker, one of the more intelligent— conservative thinker, one of the more intelligent people i've aivvavs— more intelligent people i've always thought— more intelligent people i've always thought in government. vviai-s— always thought in government. what's happened— always thought in government. what's happened . what's happened to him. it's mystifying— what's happened to him. it's mystifying because- what's happened to him. it's mystifying because today we've also the news that we're also had the news that we're doing incredibly well in reading statistics, thanks to statistics, which is thanks to the policies implemented by michael gove and nick gibb as the education minister and going for phonics, which was a really tough policy which the left hated. and michael took them on

and he won. and now he's adopting a policy that the labour party in the 1970s would have advocated. i can't understand it, but you're right. the reading figures were good. eur— the reading figures were good. our education— the reading figures were good. our education is— the reading figures were good. our education is better. that's it our education is better. that's ii mem— our education is better. that's ii irem me— our education is better. that's it from me. it's— our education is better. that's it from me. it'sjacob our education is better. that's it from me. it's jacob from our education is better. that's it from me. it'sjacob from now it from me. it's jacob from now amer— it from me. it's jacob from now aiier iie— it from me. it's jacob from now aiier lie all— it from me. it's jacob from now after the all important, whether . ielie— after the all important, whether . hello again.— after the all important, whether . hello again. it's— after the all important, whether . hello again. it's aidan- . hello again. it's aidan mcgivern here with the gb news forecast brought to you by the met office. cloudy and damp in the far north, but drier elsewhere. and there'll be some areas of broken cloud, but also some clear spells over the next 24 hours. high pressure firmly in charge, however, that high pressure is extending from the south—west. it's covering much of england and wales, whilst scotland and northern ireland sees weak features, some sees some weak features, some weather fronts introduce cloud and occasional outbreaks of mostly light rain . the rain mostly light rain. the rain focussed across northern scotland and through the night, especially the northwest highland be particularly highland will be particularly damp and there'll be some moderate outbreaks showery rain elsewhere across scotland, northern ireland, england and wales will dry with clear wales will be dry with clear spells. temperatures in some sheltered spots dipping the sheltered spots dipping into the single across

single figures coolest across eastern and southeastern england as we begin thursday, sunshine . as we begin thursday, sunshine. here, 1 or 2 showers possible towards the east coast of england . otherwise, lots of fine england. otherwise, lots of fine weather across england, wales into southern scotland. but for the scotland and the rest of scotland and northern thicker cloud northern ireland, thicker cloud and outbreaks of more persistent rain arriving into the west. by the end of the afternoon. feeling cool where this occurs. but across southern half of but across the southern half of england wales , actually england and wales, actually plenty spells highs plenty of sunny spells and highs of 19 to 21 celsius. then into thursday night, we keep the clear spells in the far south, but a lot of cloud elsewhere and the weak weather front across western scotland, northern ireland drifts into the rest of scotland before reaching northern england and north wales by the end of the night as a weakening feature. 1 or 2 showers breaking elsewhere showers breaking out elsewhere across england and wales ahead of otherwise lot of of that. but otherwise a lot of fine weather we begin friday, fine weather as we begin friday, a milder start for england and wales, cooler start for wales, but a cooler start for scotland northern ireland. wales, but a cooler start for scotscotland northern ireland. wales, but a cooler start for scotscotland and:hern ireland. wales, but a cooler start for scotscotland and northernind. but scotland and northern ireland sunshine on ireland sees more sunshine on on friday compared thursday . friday compared with thursday. plenty weather here

plenty of fine weather here before thicker arrives before thicker cloud arrives into northwest later into the far northwest later across and wales , the across england and wales, the front it moves south becomes front as it moves south becomes a showery feature and there'll be heavy downpours in be some heavy downpours in places on friday

saturday hello. saturday- . hello. good savurlav— . hello. good evening. it's saturday hello. good evening. it's me, - hello. good evening. it's me, vaeei rees-m099— jacob rees—mogg on state of the uaiiei— jacob rees—mogg on state of the uaiiei ieiipii. — jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation tonight. it's— jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation tonight. it's world nation tonight. it's a world iumel— nation tonight. it's a world turned upside— nation tonight. it's a world turned upside down. the conservative— turned upside down. the conservative party is pursuing seeialisi— conservative party is pursuing socialist housing— conservative party is pursuing socialist housing policies and the socialist housing policies and lie laieur— socialist housing policies and the labour party— socialist housing policies and the labour party is pursuing conservative— the labour party is pursuing conservative housing policies. vvie— conservative housing policies. vvie lievv— conservative housing policies. who knew michael gove was such a ielie— who knew michael gove was such a leiiie e— who knew michael gove was such a leiiie liveli— who knew michael gove was such a leftie 7 well, the _ who knew michael gove was such a leftie ? well, the opposition is leftie? well, the opposition is irevviil— leftie? well, the opposition is ireviip iere— leftie? well, the opposition is brewing here on— leftie? well, the opposition is brewing here on state of the uaiiei— brewing here on state of the uaiiei .— brewing here on state of the nation . have— brewing here on state of the nation . have you ever wondered nation. have you ever wondered the nation. have you ever wondered iie lesi— nation. have you ever wondered iie iesi wav— nation. have you ever wondered iie iesi vav ie— nation. have you ever wondered the best way to incentivise illegal— the best way to incentivise illegal migration? how about paying— illegal migration? how about paying imprisoned illegal miprams— paying imprisoned illegal migrants £1,500 to go back to aliaiia— migrants £1,500 to go back to aliaiia e— migrants £1,500 to go back to albania ? because that's albania? because that's preeiselv— albania? because that's precisely what his majesty's

eevemmem— precisely what his majesty's government has— precisely what his majesty's government has been