donald trump's presidential bid hangsin donald trump's presidential bid hangs in the balance as he's ordered to pay his sexual abuse. accuser. $5 million in . good accuser. $5 million in. good morning. it's 6:00 on- w 55 m “in“ " good morning. it's 6:00 on wednesday, the 10th— morning. it's 6:00 on wednesday, the 10th of— morning. it's 6:00 on wednesday, the teth oh that.— morning. it's 6:00 on wednesday, the 10th of may. this is the ioth of may. this is breakfast— the 10th of may. this is breakfast on- the 10th of may. this is breakfast on gb news with eamonn hethee— breakfast on gb news with eamonn hethee ent— breakfast on gb news with eamonn holmes and isabel— breakfast on gb news with eamonn holmes and isabel webster. c: holmes and isabel webster. good to have— holmes and isabel webster. good to have yet— holmes and isabel webster. good to have you oh— holmes and isabel webster. good to have you on board.— holmes and isabel webster. good to have you on board. leading our news on this wednesday morning. a jury in new york has decided that donald trump did sexually abuse the writer e! jean carroll in the 1990s, but rejected the claim that he raped

her. reacting to the verdict, trump called it part of the biggest witch hunt of all time . biggest witch hunt of all time. the home secretary has warned the house of lords not to defy the house of lords not to defy the will of the british people as peers prepare to debate the illegal migration bill for the first time. her comments follow the ehtvet— first time. her comments follow the that et— first time. her comments follow the arrival of a— first time. her comments follow the arrival of a barge— �*" c her comments follow the arrival of a barge set to house— the arrival of a barge set to house asylum _ the arrival of a barge set to house asylum seekers in the uk . house asylum seekers in the uk. the— house asylum seekers in the uk. the government— house asylum seekers in the uk. the government was right to hand tethe— the government was right to hand hettee extre— the government was right to hand police extra powers,— the government was right to hand police extra powers, says the tethe— police extra powers, says the prime minister. _ police extra powers, says the prime minister. f prime minister. as the backlash continues to the arrest of anti—monarchy protesters. it comes as the mayor of london tells the police to conduct a review of coronation policing . review of coronation policing. and sir keir starmer has refused to tute— and sir keir starmer has refused to tute eut— and sir keir starmer has refused to tute out a— and sir keir starmer has refused to rule out a coalition with the theret— to rule out a coalition with the liberal democrats— to rule out a coalition with the liberal democrats if labour fail to wh— liberal democrats if labour fail to wh e— liberal democrats if labour fail to win a majority— liberal democrats if labour fail to win a majority at the next eteetteh— to win a majority at the next eteetteh .— to win a majority at the next election . despite major gains in election. despite major gains in the heat— election. despite major gains in the local elections, pollsters h— the local elections, pollsters are in doubt— the local elections, pollsters are in doubt that— the local elections, pollsters are in doubt that the party eeutt— are in doubt that the party could secure— are in doubt that the party could secure an- are in doubt that the party could secure an overall majority- — could secure an overall majority- se— could secure an overall majority. so why doesn't he just say,— majority. so why doesn't he just eat, yet— majority. so why doesn't he just eat, you thew,— majority. so why doesn't he just eat, you thew, ht— majority. so why doesn't he just say, you know, if needs be, i'll do say, you know, if needs be, i'll to what— say, you know, if needs be, i'll to what ht— say, you know, if needs be, i'll do what it takes— say, you know, if needs be, i'll do what it takes to— say, you know, if needs be, i'll do what it takes to get this eeetettet— do what it takes to get this socialist government in power. seen— socialist government in power. seeh te— socialist government in power. seen to het—

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abuse the magazine writer e.j. carroll in the 1990s. the former carroll in the 19905. the former oteetteht— carroll in the 19905. the former oteetoeht woe— carroll in the 19905. the former president was ordered- carroll in the 19905. the former president was ordered to- e hq the former president was ordered to pay her $5 president was ordered to pay her to httttoh— president was ordered to pay her to httttoh h— president was ordered to pay her $5 million in damages after the jury touht— $5 million in damages after the jury touht hte— $5 million in damages after the jury found his comments, calling the accusations— jury found his comments, calling the accusations a— jury found his comments, calling the accusations a hoax and a lie hermet— the accusations a hoax and a lie hohhet het— the accusations a hoax and a lie harmed her reputation. now, otter— harmed her reputation. now, otter the— harmed her reputation. now, after the verdict, donald trump toot— after the verdict, donald trump toot to— after the verdict, donald trump toot to he— after the verdict, donald trump took to his social— after the verdict, donald trump took to his social media and truth— took to his social media and truth social— took to his social media and truth social to— took to his social media and truth social to deny that he even knew the _ truth social to deny that he even knew the woman. i have otootutety— even knew the woman. i have otootutety ho— even knew the woman. i have absolutely no idea who this woman is. the verdict is a disgrace, a continuation of the greatest witch hunt of all time . well, you know, for not thouho — . well, you know, for not knowing her,— well, you know, for not knowing her, it's cost him a lot of knowing her, it's cost him a lot ot oey— knowing her, it's cost him a lot ot oey ht— knowing her, it's cost him a lot of money. at the _ knowing her, it's cost him a lot of money. at the end of the day, i of money. at the end of the day, . woe— of money. at the end of the day, . just— of money. at the end of the day, i was just looking.— of money. at the end of the day, i was just looking. they broke it i was just looking. they broke tt town— i was just looking. they broke tt down here— i was just looking. they broke it down here as— i was just looking. they broke it down here as to what it was, eut— it down here as to what it was, sexual assault— it down here as to what it was, sexual assault ._ it down here as to what it was, sexual assault . he— it down here as to what it was, sexual assault . he was fined sexual assault. he was fined tho— sexual assault. he was fined $2.7 httttoh— sexual assault. he was fined $2.7 million for— sexual assault. he was fined $2.7 million for the battery ohothet— $2.7 million for the battery another $2— $2.7 million for the battery another $2 million and defamation— another $2 million and defamation $280,000. that gives a defamation $280,000. that gives ototot— defamation $280,000. that gives ototot ot— defamation $280,000. that gives a total of practically $5 httttoh. — a total of practically $5 million. joining us now from los

whoeteo— million. joining us now from los whoeteo the— million. joining us now from los angeles, the attorney . we'd love angeles, the attorney. we'd love to heat— angeles, the attorney. we'd love to heot whet— angeles, the attorney. we'd love to hear what you _ angeles, the attorney. we'd love to hear what you think, gloria whet.— to hear what you think, gloria hthet. hoot— to hear what you think, gloria allred. good morning to you . allred. good morning to you. hoot— allred. good morning to you. hoot hoththg— allred. good morning to you. good morning to— allred. good morning to you. good morning to you- allred. good morning to you. good morning to you .- allred. good morning to you. good morning to you . well, it good morning to you. well, it definitely is a victory for jean carroll . and she alleged that carroll. and she alleged that she was raped. and even though the jury did not find in this civil lawsuit that she was in fact, raped, instead finding that she was sexually abused . that she was sexually abused. and they also did find that she was defamed and they found in favour of her to the extent of $5 million in damages, as you have clearly stated, she was certainly helped by that access hollywood tape , which was played hollywood tape, which was played for the jury and played for donald trump in his deposition, his deposition testimony under oath before the trial. and he was asked about that by ms carroll's attorney. and he stood his ground on the access hollywood tape and didn't try to

get out from under it. basically affirmed that he believed that if you're a star, you know , you if you're a star, you know, you can grab a woman by her genital area. and of course , he used a area. and of course, he used a pejorative term for that. so he indicated, yes, he's a star faux pas. and i don't think that helped him with the jury. and then he didn't testify in front of the jury, which he didn't have to do, but that would have been a complete disaster if he had done that, because he can't help but lie. that's what he does. yeah. well, e jean carroll teeohhet— does. yeah. well, e jean carroll described the _ does. yeah. well, e jean carroll described the victory— : / well, e jean carroll described the victory as not for tutt— described the victory as not for just heu— described the victory as not for tuet heu hut— described the victory as not for just her, but for— described the victory as not for just her, but for every woman who— just her, but for every woman who hoe— just her, but for every woman who has suffered— just her, but for every woman who has suffered because she was not who has suffered because she was hot hettewet. — who has suffered because she was not believed. and— who has suffered because she was not believed. and that's really been— not believed. and that's really been - narrative. _ not believed. and that's really been narrative. he's been his narrative. he's ttehteeet— been his narrative. he's dismissed it.- been his narrative. he's dismissed it. he has destroyed her reputation— dismissed it. he has destroyed her reputation and the jury, whtoh— her reputation and the jury, whtoh we— her reputation and the jury, which was predominantly male , it which was predominantly male, it has which was predominantly male, it hoe to— which was predominantly male, it hoe to he— which was predominantly male, it hoe to he etho— which was predominantly male, it has to be said, came out and hunt— has to be said, came out and hunt h— has to be said, came out and hunt he he— has to be said, came out and found in her favour. has to be said, came out and found in her favour . yes “cit? found in her favour. yes yes, they— found in her favour. yes yes, they uto— found in her favour. yes yes, they the .— found in her favour. yes yes, they the . ht— found in her favour. yes yes, they did . it was— found in her favour. yes yes, they did . it was a- found in her favour. yes yes, they did. it was a nine member jury

they did. it was a nine member jury and they did have to reach a unanimous verdict. and they found in favour of ms carroll and against that, mr trump, now his attorney , he has taken to his attorney, he has taken to the airwaves and said in mr trump's defence, he can't get a fair trial in new york city . we fair trial in new york city. we do know that in the last election, new york went for biden , not for trump, who is biden, not for trump, who is a new yorker. by the way , mr new yorker. by the way, mr trump, at and but nonetheless , i trump, at and but nonetheless, i think the judge did everything possible to give mr trump former president trump a fair trial. but but he will appeal because that's what donald trump does. he's appealed so many times in so many civil lawsuits , and so many civil lawsuits, and that's what he does. and he goes all the way to the top and for example, when he challenged the election results, i think there was something like 40 or 60 lawsuits. he appealed everyone. and he lost every lawsuit . and

and he lost every lawsuit. and that's what he does. so good luck to him. we'll see what happens. and just just let's tott— happens. and just just let's totw ohout— happens. and just just let's talk about ms— happens. and just just let's talk about ms ms- and just just let's talk about ms ms carroll, about the— talk about ms ms carroll, about thte .— talk about ms ms carroll, about thte . h— talk about ms ms carroll, about thte . a big— talk about ms ms carroll, about thte . a big wh— talk about ms ms carroll, about this . a big win for— talk about ms ms carroll, about this . a big win for her, gloria, this. a big win for her, gloria, hut— this. a big win for her, gloria, hut why— this. a big win for her, gloria, but why would _ this. a big win for her, gloria, but why would she not have hettgotet— but why would she not have hettgotet o— but why would she not have instigated a prosecution , a instigated a prosecution, a ohmhot— instigated a prosecution, a criminal prosecution, as opposed to the— criminal prosecution, as opposed to thte owtt— criminal prosecution, as opposed to this civil prosecution .7 well, to this civil prosecution? well, thot-e— to this civil prosecution? well, thot-e o— to this civil prosecution? well, thot-e o tott— to this civil prosecution? well, that's a fair question. 't: to this civil prosecution? well, that's a fair question. ' t: that's a fair question. and the answer is because it was too late under the law. there's a different statute of limitations , meaning a different time penod , meaning a different time period during which a victim of a crime has to file a police report and then for their prosecution to proceed . and too prosecution to proceed. and too late for her to do it. she indicated in her testimony that she didn't want to call the police. there's no legal requirement that she does. and however, she was within the time penod however, she was within the time period to file a civil lawsuit.

and that is because a new law was passed last thanksgiving in new york. and i am a new york lawyer as well as california lawyer as well as california lawyer for a new law was passed called the adult survivors act, which essentially revived old claims and allowed victims , claims and allowed victims, aduu claims and allowed victims, adult survivors of adult abuse, even from many years ago to file a lawsuit . she took advantage of a lawsuit. she took advantage of that , and a lawsuit. she took advantage of that, and that's how she a lawsuit. she took advantage of that , and that's how she got to that, and that's how she got to court into a trial in her case, she was also helped by the fact that she was able to call what we call two prior bad act witnesses . in other words, two witnesses. in other words, two other women who allege they had also been sexually abused by mr trump, that he had a common scheme plan designed , in other scheme plan designed, in other words, that he sexually abuses women. he grabs their breasts, he grabs other parts of their body without their consent ,

he grabs other parts of their body without their consent, and think that helped him. that's also going to be an argument that he makes on appeal that they should not have been allowed to testify . arnie. i allowed to testify. arnie. i mean, it seems to me as as allowed to testify. arnie. i- mean, it seems to me as as an oheewet— mean, it seems to me as as an oheewet h— mean, it seems to me as as an observer in another— mean, it seems to me as as an observer in another country that they— observer in another country that they ehoutt— observer in another country that they ehoutt he— observer in another country that they should be given damages as wett— they should be given damages as wett oe— they should be given damages as wett oe t— they should be given damages as wett oe t jean— they should be given damages as well as e jean carroll. but you know,— well as e jean carroll. but you know, thot-e— well as e jean carroll. but you know, that's just— well as e jean carroll. but you know, that's just my opinion . know, that's just my opinion. yuet— know, that's just my opinion. yuet give— know, that's just my opinion. yuet give ue— know, that's just my opinion. just give us some of the legal context,— just give us some of the legal oohtewt, hot— just give us some of the legal context, not just— just give us some of the legal context, not just this case. toute— context, not just this case. you've talked— context, not just this case. you've talked about the numerous teoot— you've talked about the numerous tegot ooeee— you've talked about the numerous legal cases that— you've talked about the numerous legal cases that trump has seen, but legal cases that trump has seen, hut-eohtewt— legal cases that trump has seen, but-contextlthis- but the context of this arraignment- but the context of this arraignment that recently but the context of this- arraignment that-recently has arraignment that he recently has had arraignment that he recently has hotltetottoh— arraignment that he recently has had-relation to— arraignment that he recently has had-relation to the— arraignment that he recently has had relation to the star at had in relation to the star at the— had in relation to the star at the tthho— had in relation to the star at the tthho ot— had in relation to the star at the timing of all— had in relation to the star at the timing of all of this as he-e— the timing of all of this as we ttyho— the timing of all of this as we ttyho to— the timing of all of this as he's trying to get the republican- he's trying to get the republican nomination . i mean, republican nomination. i mean, there-e— republican nomination. i mean, there-e-ot— republican nomination. i mean, there's-of talk— republican nomination. i mean, there's of talk about there's lots of talk about whether— there's lots of talk about whether that _ there's lots of talk about whether that affects his oottttee— whether that affects his politics. -want. whether that affects his politics. want to whether that affects his- politics.-want to ask politics. i don't want to ask you— politics. i don't want to ask you-thet— politics. i don't want to ask you-that, but- politics. i don't want to ask you that, but there are you about that, but there are theee—ohl you about that, but there are. theee—oh. wee. these other cases going on. yes. the— these other cases going on. yes. the-wort— these other cases going on. yes. the -wotw ctty— these other cases going on. yes. the york city prosecution, the new york city prosecution, whtoh— the new york city prosecution, whtoh-hohtty- the new york city prosecution, which rightly mentioned which you just rightly mentioned ,-hoe— which you just rightly mentioned ,-hoe heeh— which you just rightly mentioned , has been indicted , , where he has been indicted, he-e— , where he has been indicted, he-e otet— , where he has been indicted, he-e otet hot— , where he has been indicted, he's pled not guilty. 't: he's pled not guilty. and that that— he's pled not guilty. and that that tee— he's pled not guilty. and that that te— he's pled not guilty. and that that case is likely to come to trial next year. then he's also facing a big investigation by the special counsel of justice department in to an allegation

of obstruction of justice. hasn't been indicted yet. maybe it never will be, but likely in my opinion, will be for not turning over documents , top turning over documents, top secret documents , classified secret documents, classified documents , even after they were documents, even after they were subpoenaed. that's one case. and then , of course, there's the then, of course, there's the january 6th investigation into the insurrection in in washington , dc. that's a justice washington, dc. that's a justice department investigation by special counsel, and that is heating up as well. there's the case in georgia, which is a state case in which he is being investigated and may be indicted this summer for election interference in georgia. so he's interference in georgia. so he's in a world of hurt. he's got a lot going on. it may or may not affect him politically . right affect him politically. right now. he's ahead for the republican nomination for

president for the next time. but there's going to be quite a bit. that's that he's going to have to face before even the primary happens. gloria, i mean, you tuet— happens. gloria, i mean, you tuet teottho— happens. gloria, i mean, you just reciting those— gloria, i mean, you just reciting those cases that are just reciting those cases that thet— just reciting those cases that thet uo— just reciting those cases that thet uo .— just reciting those cases that are lined up . i— just reciting those cases that are lined up . i mean, my limited are lined up. i mean, my limited eoehehee— are lined up. i mean, my limited experience, thankfully limited in experience, thankfully limited th e— experience, thankfully limited in a courtroom.— experience, thankfully limited in a courtroom. i've just found draining-— in a courtroom. i've just found twohhg. ._ in a courtroom. i've just found draining. i find— in a courtroom. i've just found draining. | find it— in a courtroom. i've just found draining. i find it an awful exrpeience- — draining. ! find it an awful experience. the- draining. i find it an awful experience. the fact that this woutt— experience. the fact that this man would contemplate running the hoet— man would contemplate running the most powerful— man would contemplate running the most powerful country in the worm— the most powerful country in the worth out— the most powerful country in the world and fighting— the most powerful country in the world and fighting all these court— world and fighting all these court cases, it— world and fighting all these court cases, it must be it must be court cases, it must be it must he ._ court cases, it must be it must he . ooh-t— court cases, it must be it must be i don't know— court cases, it must be it must be i don't know how he would the— be i don't know how he would the the— be i don't know how he would the the to— be i don't know how he would find time to just— be i don't know how he would find time to just not undertake the huhohet— find time to just not undertake the mundane things in his life. wewet— the mundane things in his life. wewet hht— the mundane things in his life. never mind be— the mundane things in his life. never mind be president. the mundane things in his life. never mind be president . rotten never mind be president. well, yes.— never mind be president. well, you you— never mind be president. well, you you coutu— never mind be president. well, you you out ety— never mind be president. well, yes, you could say that. - never mind be president. well, yes, you could say that. but on the other hand , he's actually the other hand, he's actually exploiting the fact that he is being invested , stated that he being invested, stated that he is being indicted , and that, in is being indicted, and that, in fact , he may face these other fact, he may face these other charges as well. and he is raising money. it's a big what

we call a grift. he is raising money. million of dollars, calling himself a victim. it's a witch hunt. and all of the other phrases that he uses time and again. and he's raising that after , you know, essentially, after, you know, essentially, for example , on the january 6th for example, on the january 6th case, based on the big lie that he really was elected, that biden is not the elected president, which absolutely he is . and by the way, his is. and by the way, his fundraising off of poor people who believe in him is being investigated also by the special counsel. there's always a possibility that he may end up being , you know, charged , being, you know, charged, charged for what he is doing based on what he should know is the big lie , because he's been the big lie, because he's been told that by a number of his own attorneys. as told that by a number of his own attorneys . as gloria, finally, attorneys. as gloria, finally, tuet— attorneys. as gloria, finally, tuet oe— attorneys. as gloria, finally, just one other— attorneys. as gloria, finally, just one other legal- as gloria, finally, just one other legal question, tuet— just one other legal question, tuet ewotoh— just one other legal question, tuet explain to— just one other legal question, just explain to us— just one other legal question, just explain to us in the uk whee— just explain to us in the uk where the— just explain to us in the uk where this is— just explain to us in the uk where this is not possible, how

in where this is not possible, how he the— where this is not possible, how he the etotee— where this is not possible, how in the states he— where this is not possible, how in the states he could still run for in the states he could still run to oteetteht— in the states he could still run for president from _ in the states he could still run for president from behind bars if for president from behind bars tt thet— for president from behind bars tt thot wee— for president from behind bars if that were to— for president from behind bars if that were to happen ? rotten if that were to happen? well, tooth— if that were to happen? well, tooth. o— if that were to happen? well, tooth. o ghett— if that were to happen? well, again, a great question. and the answer is in our history, in the united states, there is actually someone who was convicted of a felony who still ran for president of the united states. his name was eugene debs. and that was many years ago. he was in a jail cell serving time for the conviction of a felony . and the conviction of a felony. and still he could run for president of the united states . so we'll of the united states. so we'll have to see what happens if trump is convicted, i wouldn't be surprised if he would do the same. gloria, be surprised if he would do the same . gloria, thank you for your same. gloria, thank you for your your— same. gloria, thank you for your your hetoht. — same. gloria, thank you for your your insight. really— gloria, thank you for your your insight. really fascinating and otwoye— your insight. really fascinating oht otwoye very— your insight. really fascinating and always very good talking to you.— and always very good talking to you. hue-we— and always very good talking to you. we-we got— and always very good talking to you. we-we got to— and always very good talking to you. we've got to say goodbye to you— you. we've got to say goodbye to you there. — you. we've got to say goodbye to you there. who— you. we've got to say goodbye to you there. and thank you very much— you there. and thank you very much hteet— you there. and thank you very much indeed for— you there. and thank you very much indeed for all of that this hothhg. — much indeed for all of that this hothhg. ._ much indeed for all of that this morning. i appreciate it. thank you.— morning. i appreciate it. thank youloteoeute.— morning. i appreciate it. thank you. pleasure. and that's you. my pleasure. and that's etote— you. my pleasure. and that's. gloria—attorney gloria allred. she's an attorney out— gloria allred. she's an attorney the giving— gloria allred. she's an attorney the giving ue— gloria allred. she's an attorney and giving us the— gloria allred. she's an attorney and giving us the whole take on

oohott— and giving us the whole take on oohott humo— and giving us the whole take on donald trump. there was a ototute— donald trump. there was a ototute ot— donald trump. there was a picture of his— donald trump. there was a picture of his wife, melania there,— picture of his wife, melania there, who— picture of his wife, melania there, who we— picture of his wife, melania there, who we don't see too much of there, who we don't see too much ot theee— there, who we don't see too much ot theee toye— there, who we don't see too much of these days, but— there, who we don't see too much of these days, but that must be a of these days, but that must be e big— of these days, but that must be e big ettoh— of these days, but that must be o big ettoh oh— of these days, but that must be a big strain on her— of these days, but that must be a big strain on her for her huehoht— a big strain on her for her husband to— a big strain on her for her husband to be— a big strain on her for her husband to be accused and found guttty— husband to be accused and found outtty ot— husband to be accused and found outtty ot eeuot— husband to be accused and found guilty of sexual assault and the— guilty of sexual assault and thte toy— guilty of sexual assault and thte toy ohy— guilty of sexual assault and this by any normal measure, you woutt— this by any normal measure, you woutt thhw— this by any normal measure, you would think so. _ this by any normal measure, you would think so. but— this by any normal measure, you would think so. e would think so. but i mean, he has not been far from these sorts of allegations for the entirety of the time he's been in the public eye. i mean, those access hollywood tapes were around before became around before he became president. must be used to president. she must be used to heanng president. she must be used to hearing all of this sort of talk, especially if that is the way talks openly. so, you way he talks openly. so, you know, just doesn't know, maybe she just doesn't mind. as tom harwood mind. well, as tom harwood would say , stand by your man . what do say, stand by your man. what do you think of melania?— : what do you think of melania? would you etoht— you think of melania? would you etoht hy— you think of melania? would you etoht toy yout— you think of melania? would you stand by your man— you think of melania? would you stand by your man if your man oohott— stand by your man if your man was donald trump? all right. stand by your man if your man was donald trump? all right . \tt:::t was donald trump? all right. no . wot— was donald trump? all right. no . not even— was donald trump? all right. no . wot tot— was donald trump? all right. no . not even for a— was donald trump? all right. we was donald trump? all right. no . not even for a nanosecond. not even for a nanosecond, says isabel. there even for a nanosecond, says isabel . there you go . more isabel. there you go. more teoottoh— isabel. there you go. more teoottoh to— isabel. there you go. more

reaction to that— there you go. more reaction to that throughout the program— reaction to that throughout the program .— reaction to that throughout the program . tet— reaction to that throughout the program . tet ue— reaction to that throughout the program . let us know what you program. let us know what you thhh— program. let us know what you think, gbviews@gbnews.uk . or you think, gbviews@gbnews.uk. or you can think, gbviews@gbnews.uk. or you eet— think, gbviews@gbnews.uk. or you get h— think, gbviews@gbnews.uk. or you get to touch— think, gbviews@gbnews.uk. or you can get in touch on— think, gbviews@gbnews.uk. or you can get in touch on the twitter eohete— can get in touch on the twitter eohete ot— can get in touch on the twitter eohete ot eh— can get in touch on the twitter sphere at gb news. the time for teet— sphere at gb news. the time for toet oootooohhg— sphere at gb news. the time for fast approaching a— sphere at gb news. the time for fast approaching a 6:15. \t©"�*w" fast approaching a 6:15. now, the home— fast approaching a 6:15. now, the home secretary has written in the telegraph today and warned the house of lords not to defy the will of the british people peers. debate people as peers. debate the illegal migration for the illegal migration bill for the first time now, her comments follow arrival of a barge , a follow the arrival of a barge, a huge barge set to highs. hundreds of asylum seekers . hundreds of asylum seekers. yohhg— hundreds of asylum seekers. yohhg ue— hundreds of asylum seekers. yohhg ue how— hundreds of asylum seekers. joining us now for more is oottttoot— joining us now for more is political analyst leon emirali . political analyst leon emirali. so political analyst leon emirali. so where— political analyst leon emirali. so where to— political analyst leon emirali. so where do we— political analyst leon emirali. so where do we where do we get wtth— so where do we where do we get wtth thte— so where do we where do we get now with this this— so where do we where do we get now with this this legislation? aho— now with this this legislation? the how— now with this this legislation? and how obstructive are you exoeothg— and how obstructive are you exoeothg the— and how obstructive are you expecting the house of lords to be, expecting the house of lords to he, ht— expecting the house of lords to he, tt ot— expecting the house of lords to he, h at otte— expecting the house of lords to be, if at all? well,— expecting the house of lords to be, if at all? well, i think they-te— be, if at all? well, i think they-we gohg— be, if at all? well, i think they're going to be very frustrating,— they're going to be very frustrating, more than obstructive. - frustrating, more than obstructive. they can't necessarily— obstructive. they can't necessarily stop this legislation - necessarily stop this legislation from passing, but they—tot- they can delay it for potentially - they can delay it for potentially to a year. potentially up to a year. there-e— potentially up to a year. there-e o— potentially up to a year. there's a lib— potentially up to a year. there's a lib dem peer , brian there's a lib dem peer, brian hotttoh— there's a lib dem peer, brian hotttoh who— there's a lib dem peer, brian paddick, who has— there's a lib dem peer, brian paddick, who has actually sought to guoeh— paddick, who has actually sought to guoeh the— paddick, who has actually sought to quash the legislation euthety— to quash the legislation entirely, which would be very, very— entirely, which would be very, wety so— entirely, which would be very, very rare. so i'm— entirely, which would be very, very rare. g very rare. so i'm not expecting that to happen. but we could see

a number of cross—party peers effectively condemning this policy and looking to frustrate the government on what is a central point of their policy agenda and what is her argument, because she's saying this is the will of the people and obviously they have a mandate from the 2019 they said 2019 election where they said they to get back control they wanted to get back control of their borders. but i believe that— of their borders. but i believe that eoeottto— of their borders. but i believe that specific-was- of their borders. but i believe that specific-was in- that specific line was in tetottoh— that specific line was in relation to _ that specific line was in relation to european union relation to the european union out— relation to the european union and-movement- relation to the european union and-movement of- relation to the european union and movement of people, and the free movement of people, not and the free movement of people, hot—tttegot- not necessarily about illegal htgtottoh. —o- not necessarily about illegal- migration._a mandate migration. so is there a mandate theee — migration. so is there a mandate theee wheth— migration. so is there a mandate theee uott. ._ migration. so is there a mandate there? well, i think— migration. so is there a mandate there? it�*t�*iticc "

well, on the subject of a general election and after the tooth— general election and after the local-elections,- local council elections, ewetyhoty-e— local council elections, everybody's juggling the figures and everybody's juggling the figures out-ot— everybody's juggling the figures out-ot the— everybody's juggling the figures out-ot the why- everybody's juggling the figures and-at the way it- everybody's juggling the figures and at the way it could and looking at the way it could org-eet— and looking at the way it could protect oh— and looking at the way it could project oh oh— and looking at the way it could project oh on o— and looking at the way it could project on on a national stage. aho— project on on a national stage. hot wet— project on on a national stage. and keir starmer— project on on a national stage. and keir starmer when he's eoyhg— and keir starmer when he's eoyhg, hey,— and keir starmer when he's saying, hey, do_ and keir starmer when he's saying, hey, do you fancy would you— saying, hey, do you fancy would you woutt — saying, hey, do you fancy would you woutt you— saying, hey, do you fancy would you would you shack up with the lib you would you shack up with the no heme— you would you shack up with the no heme ht— you would you shack up with the no heme tt ht— you would you shack up with the lib dems if it meant getting power— lib dems if it meant getting power out— lib dems if it meant getting power one he— lib dems if it meant getting power and he blah blah blah, htoh— power and he blah blah blah, htoh htoh— power and he blah blah blah, blah blah blah— power and he blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah, but blah blah blah blah blah, but tuet— blah blah blah blah blah, but met—ott— blah blah blah blah blah, but tuet—ott the- blah blah blah blah blah, but just-all the time,- blah blah blah blah blah, but just all the time, why just dodges it all the time, why ooh-t—yeoh- just dodges it all the time, why ooh-t—yeoh h- just dodges it all the time, why can't—yeah, if it. can't they just say yeah, if it toot— can't they just say yeah, if it toot ha,— can't they just say yeah, if it took that, |'d_ can't they just say yeah, if it took that, i'd do— can't they just say yeah, if it took that, i'd do that? it�*t�*iticc took that, i'd do that? well, i thmw— took that, i'd do that? well, i mm the— took that, i'd do that? well, i think this is— took that, i'd do that? well, i think this is the question on everyone's lips. we all know that going that ultimately he is going to have to talk to the lib dems if the projections continue along the projections continue along the expect them to do. the way we expect them to do. but reason why he's but i think the reason why he's reluctant, is because if reluctant, eamonn is because if he he's to go he does say he's going to go into coalition with the lib dems, that means number of dems, that means a number of things impact things things that could impact things like brexit, that could impact things way which we things like the way in which we vote, system. so we vote, the voting system. so we know lib dems have got know the lib dems have got a number of conditions they number of conditions that they would towards the would probably put towards the labour they wanted labour party if they wanted to enter. so was leader of the enter. so if i was leader of the tohout— enter. so if i was leader of the tohout potty,— enter. so if i was leader of the labour party, |'d_ enter. so if i was leader of the labour party, i'd say,- ti;“ti.” so if i was leader of the labour party, i'd say, you ti;“.i” so if i was leader of the labour party, i'd say, you know what— labour party, i'd say, you know whot mtght— labour party, i'd say, you know what might might— labour party, i'd say, you know what might might come on the agenda.— what might might come on the ogehtolthte— what might might come on the agenda. this impact agenda. but this could impact a hue— agenda. but this could impact a number-things— agenda. but this could impact a number things that we're number of things that we're totthg—

number of things that we're totthg-omt- number of things that we're talking and therefore talking about and therefore it'd be talking about and therefore it'd toe-to.— talking about and therefore it'd toe-tolewem— talking about and therefore it'd toe-toleweh go- talking about and therefore it'd be to, even go there at be silly to, to even go there at the.— be silly to, to even go there at the. ot— be silly to, to even go there at the. ot-eotty— be silly to, to even go there at this, at early stage. but this, at this early stage. but what— this, at this early stage. but what-intend— this, at this early stage. but what-intend to- this, at this early stage. but what intend to we intend what we intend to win we intend to wh— what we intend to win we intend to wtm tug.— what we intend to win we intend to wtm htg. ue— what we intend to win we intend to win big. we intend to do whatever.— to win big. we intend to do whatever,-it's- to win big. we intend to do whatever, it's the whatever, whatever it's the ehtttheee— whatever, whatever it's the shiftinesslyou - whatever, whatever it's the shiftiness you not shiftiness of you know, not hewehg— shiftiness of you know, not answering anything . ti; answering anything. he looks a ttttto— answering anything. he looks a ttttto tott— answering anything. he looks a little bit shifty, doesn't it? and i think it's beginning to set play. we set that narrative in play. we had last week the sue gray debacle and the questions answered about who's being truthful and when that conversation first started. and again, see keir starmer again, we see keir starmer deflecting on these key questions. so he looks as though he can't be trusted by the public. and i think that's a worrying given his central worrying look given his central policy or central sort of personality position, is that he is trust worthy. he's not like the conservatives who went before him. i saw a comment oteoe— before him. i saw a comment oteoe tohg— before him. i saw a comment oteoe tohg the— ”ti; “ i saw a comment piece doing the rounds yesterday ewehhg— piece doing the rounds yesterday evening—actually- evening saying that actually the otoooetttoh— evening saying that actually the proposition liberal labour proposition of a liberal labour hoot— proposition of a liberal labour ooot ooutt— proposition of a liberal labour pact could actually play into the— pact could actually play into the-ot— pact could actually play into the-of rishi- pact could actually play into the of rishi sunak heading the hands of rishi sunak heading into the hands of rishi sunak heading hto-hewt— the hands of rishi sunak heading into-next election— the hands of rishi sunak heading into next election because into the next election because ooottttohe— into the next election because coalitions deemed to be so coalitions are deemed to be so ohootto— coalitions are deemed to be so ohootto out— coalitions are deemed to be so chaotic and-kind- coalitions are deemed to be so chaotic and kind of well, chaotic and such a kind of well, he mtght— chaotic and such a kind of well, he mtght meet— chaotic and such a kind of well, he might need to— chaotic and such a kind of well, he might need to have a cotton— he might need to have a coalition as— he might need to have a coalition as well. �*ftt�*ti;.. coalition as well. well, the problem is, i mean, no one's going to into coalition with going to go into coalition with the conservatives so i think that we're probably at

that we're probably looking at this and it will be this this chaos and it will be chaos because fixed term chaos because the fixed term parliaments was parliaments act, which was implemented lib dems implemented when the lib dems went with went into coalition with the conservatives 2010,that's conservatives in 2010, that's been idea of been repealed. and the idea of that keep the government that was to keep the government in place for five years. so the country had stability. that's gone. if labour did enter in gone. so if labour did enter in coalition with lib dems, coalition with the lib dems, snp, might be, well snp, whoever it might be, well it definitely won't snp. so snp, whoever it might be, well it d rule :ely won't snp. so snp, whoever it might be, well it d rule thatvon't snp. so snp, whoever it might be, well it d rule that out. snp. so snp, whoever it might be, well it d rule that out. so'ynp. so snp, whoever it might be, well it d rule that out. so he. so snp, whoever it might be, well it d rule that out. so he says, did rule that out. so he says, hut— did rule that out. so he says, hut you— did rule that out. so he says, but you know, i think when power is there you do what you need to do. that could be chaotic do. but that could be chaotic for the country and we could see the collapse a the government collapse after a yean the government collapse after a year, six months back to the polls we've got that polls and we've got that instability that hopefully we were seen the were hoping that we've seen the back of. but it might not be the case. just want case. coalitions we just want to ask listening and watching ask you, listening and watching at what's view on a at home, what's your view on a coalition > do you it's coalition > do you think it's power— coalition > do you think it's power ehotet— . “tit“ > do you think it's power shared everything more power shared and everything more fair power shared and everything more tottltoee— power shared and everything more fair-does nothing— power shared and everything more fair does nothing ever get fair or does nothing ever get tomee— fair or does nothing ever get tome—yout- fair or does nothing ever get- done? _your thoughts. done? let us know your thoughts. get done? let us know your thoughts. eet-teoh. — done? let us know your thoughts. get-leon. leon,- get in touch leon. leon, thank you.— get in touch leon. leon, thank you—ht.— get in touch leon. leon, thank you—ht. thohw- get in touch leon. leon, thank you._it. thank youi you. appreciate it. thank you very—wou- you. appreciate it. thank you very—you eoeow very much indeed. you speak ogoh—you. - very much indeed. you speaki again _you. with very much indeed. you speak- again _you. with the again later. thank you. with the ttmo— again later. thank you. with the ttmo ot— again later. thank you. with the ttmo tot-tote— again later. thank you. with the time at let's bring you up time at 6.19, let's bring you up to with rest of today's to date with the rest of today's top stories. another phone hoowhg— top stories. another phone hacking trial— another phone hacking trial involving the duke

of hacking trial involving the duke ot sueee— hacking trial involving the duke of sussex-today. - hacking trial involving the duke of sussex today. prince of sussex begins today. prince homy— of sussex begins today. prince worry-emet— of sussex begins today. prince harry-enter the- of sussex begins today. prince harry enter the witness harry will enter the witness how. — harry will enter the witness too. what— harry will enter the witness too. what te— harry will enter the witness box. what is he— harry will enter the witness box. what is he back in london ogohe — box. what is he back in london ogohe ho.— box. what is he back in london again? no, he's— box. what is he back in london again? \tit “g box. what is he back in london again? \tit : “g again? no, he's attending next month. but it's getting underway. right and underway. all right. right and this underway. all right. right and thte ttme— underway. all right. right and this time suing— underway. all right. right and this time suing the— a : all right. right and this time suing the mirror group whet— this time suing the mirror group whot he-e— this time suing the mirror group over what he's calling unlawful htotmottoh— over what he's calling unlawful information gathering. the tohtott— information gathering. the tohtott te— information gathering. the tabloid is contesting the home.— tabloid is contesting the claims, arguing that some have heeh— claims, arguing that some have teem thought— claims, arguing that some have been brought too— claims, arguing that some have been brought too late . �*" been brought too late. the first baby— been brought too late. the first baby wtth— been brought too late. the first baby with dna from three people has been born in the uk following a special ivf procedure . the treatment aims to procedure. the treatment aims to prevent the passing on of defective genes from mothers by giving the baby dna from its mother, father and a female donor are bad news there. irish band wild youth has— : ye”ti; :ztet: stifti; irish band wild youth has failed to gummy— band wild youth has failed to guottty tot— band wild youth has failed to guottty tow the— band wild youth has failed to qualify for the eurovision final in qualify for the eurovision final to twemoot— qualify for the eurovision final to twemoot .— qualify for the eurovision final in liverpool . they were among in liverpool. they were among the the— in liverpool. they were among the the eete— in liverpool. they were among the five acts that— in liverpool. they were among the five acts that were knocked out h— the five acts that were knocked out to the — the five acts that were knocked out in the first— the five acts that were knocked out in the first live semi—final of out in the first live semi—final ot the— out in the first live semi—final ot the week. — out in the first live semi—final of the week. the— out in the first live semi—final of the week. the ten countries that— of the week. the ten countries that mote— of the week. the ten countries that mote tt— of the week. the ten countries that made it through include hottugot— that made it through include portugal, sweden and croatia. we ehoutt— portugal, sweden and croatia. we ehoutt ghe— portugal, sweden and croatia. we ehoutt gwe you— portugal, sweden and croatia. we should give you the other seven as should give you the other seven oe wett. — should give you the other seven oe wett. hut— should give you the other seven

as well. but first,— should give you the other seven as well. but first, three of a ooeethte— as well. but first, three of a ooeethte .— as well. but first, three of a possible . ten— as well. but first, three of a possible . ten rishi sunak has possible. ten rishi sunak has tetehtet— possible. ten rishi sunak has defended police— possible. ten rishi sunak has defended police powers used tuttmg— defended police powers used tutthg the— defended police powers used during the coronation, despite hoowtoeh— during the coronation, despite backlash over— during the coronation, despite backlash over the treatment of thoee— backlash over the treatment of thoee hoot— backlash over the treatment of those poor protesters were the heat— those poor protesters were the heat ot— those poor protesters were the peat ot the — those poor protesters were the peak of the fan— those poor protesters were the peak of the fan and they were omeetet.— peak of the fan and they were arrested. amen— peak of the fan and they were arrested. amen when their day eoottt— arrested. amen when their day eoottt . — arrested. amen when their day was spoilt . we— arrested. amen when their day was spoilt . �*ftt�*ti; ” . was spoilt. we know your views. they was spoilt. we know your views. they woutt— was spoilt. we know your views. they would have— was spoilt. we know your views. they would have had— was spoilt. �*ftt�*ti; ” . they would have had their deck ohotte— they would have had their deck ohotte out— they would have had their deck chairs and their— they would have had their deck chairs and their bunting all ready— chairs and their bunting all teoty to— chairs and their bunting all teoty to ett— chairs and their bunting all ready to sit there. and then there— ready to sit there. and then there we— ready to sit there. and then there was nasty— ready to sit there. and then there was nasty policemen took them — there was nasty policemen took them away— there was nasty policemen took them owoy out— there was nasty policemen took them away and spoilt a little ototeet. — them away and spoilt a little ototeet. t— them away and spoilt a little protest. i mean,— them away and spoilt a little protest. i mean, their little celebration— protest. i mean, their little celebration that— protest. i mean, their little celebration that was going on, the hew— celebration that was going on, the new public— celebration that was going on, the new public order act allows otttoete— the new public order act allows otttoete to— the new public order act allows officers to stop— the new public order act allows officers to stop and search ohyoe— officers to stop and search anyone suspicion of planning anyone on suspicion of planning to-ttetuottoh. — anyone on suspicion of planning to-disruption. so- anyone on suspicion of planning to disruption. to cause disruption. so let's sooth— to cause disruption. so let's speak former met police speak to former met police detective john taylor. those are raymond's views. what are your views on the first of all, arrest of specifically the six that hadn't done anything and didn't have anything, haven't done anything yet, arrest? hadn't done anything yet? yes. wee — hadn't done anything yet? yes. wee woe.— hadn't done anything yet? yes. wee woo. woo.— hadn't done anything yet? yes. yes yes. yes. very— hadn't done anything yet? yes. yes “tit: “tit: til: giftiteyg “g yes yes. yes. very interesting point. and then the apology

yes “tit: “tit: til: giftiteyg “g and then the apology from point. and then the apology from the metropolitan _ and then the apology from the metropolitan police . yes. the metropolitan police. yes. wee. — the metropolitan police. yes. wee. womhg— the metropolitan police. yes. yes. morning isabel. “g yes. morning isabel. morning, homom— yes. morning isabel. morning, tomom .— yes. morning isabel. morning, eamonn . i'm pretty similar in eamonn. i'm pretty similar in many ways, and it was nice to see commissioner riley come out and say it was unfortunate. that's his word. and i sort of agree with it because when you start to look at the new powers that are put in place, there are actually used very effectively and very correctly. and what a lot of people will be upset about, or especially the protesters, is that they weren't given the chance to protest . given the chance to protest. well, a lot were. and of course, the information came into the police that there may be some who were looking to disrupt far more than peacefully more than just peacefully demonstrate . so the powers are demonstrate. so the powers are put in place because the information came in about information that came in about possibly fake stewards that were carrying paint or rape alarms to cause that disruption. and that's exactly what the bill is meant to put to put in place to make sure this type of disruption that we've seen in the past on the m25 five at the grand national and all the other events, this is what we wanted

to stop. and that's exactly what the police did. and i think it was a very successful police operation except they're now operation, except they're now going have to go in hand going to have to go cap in hand and kiss everybody's feet and say we were very bad and we shouldn't have done that. and there seems to be this whole tohh— there seems to be this whole tohmloomootgh- there seems to be this whole john, campaign brewing to john, this campaign brewing to say john, this campaign brewing to eoy theee— john, this campaign brewing to eoy theee hoot— john, this campaign brewing to say these poor protesters , there say these poor protesters, there weeht— say these poor protesters, there weren't protesters,— say these poor protesters, there weren't protesters, these poor oetehtototy— weren't protesters, these poor celebratory people who'd come tuto— celebratory people who'd come hto tohtoh— celebratory people who'd come into london, what— celebratory people who'd come into london, what their views they— into london, what their views were. they have— into london, what their views were. they have a- into london, what their views were. ”g“ were. they have a right to express their because we express their views because we live in a free country and we believe in free speech. otherwise, xi otherwise, we'll be under xi jinping care. why do we care how they— jinping care. why do we care how they wee— jinping care. why do we care how they were treated?— “g tige”ti; why do we care how they were treated? because i tom-t— they were treated? because i tout-to— they were treated? because i tout-to twe— they were treated? because i don't-to live in- they were treated? because i don't-to live in a- don't want to live in a dictatorship. - don't want to live in a. dictatorship. -want don't want to live in a- dictatorship. -want your dictatorship. and i want your son was out against your son was sitting there in the crowd. if they have mace on a they had have spread mace on a hoe— they had have spread mace on a hoe ot— they had have spread mace on a hoe ow eet— they had have spread mace on a horse or set off— they had have spread mace on a horse or set off an— they had have spread mace on a horse or set off an alarm and a hoe— horse or set off an alarm and a horse trampled— horse or set off an alarm and a horse trampled into the crowd or whatever.— horse trampled into the crowd or whoteweu t— horse trampled into the crowd or whatever, i suspect— horse trampled into the crowd or whatever, i suspect your view woutt— whatever, i suspect your view woutt he.— whatever, i suspect your view woutt he. to— whatever, i suspect your view would be, do -free - whatever, i suspect your view would be, do free speech would be, do i want free speech outtottet— would be, do i want free speech outtottet-eoh— would be, do i want free speech curtailed-son can- would be, do i want free speech curtailed son can have a curtailed so my son can have a mee— curtailed so my son can have a toy— curtailed so my son can have a toy oute — curtailed so my son can have a nice day out? no.— curtailed so my son can have a nice day out? \tit you know curtailed so my son can have a nice day out? \ttiit you know what? nice day out? no. you know what? coutth-t— nice day out? no. you know what? coutth-t ome— nice day out? no. you know what? couldn't care less— nice day out? no. you know what? couldn't care less who— nice day out? \ttiit you know what? couldn't care less who wakes up in couldn't care less who wakes up to the— couldn't care less who wakes up to the momhg— couldn't care less who wakes up in the morning. john here's my ooht— in the morning. john here's my ooht. who— in the morning. john here's my ooht. who-uo- in the morning. john here's my point. who-up in- in the morning. john here's my point. who up in the point. who wakes up in the momhge— point. who wakes up in the morning? -the- point. who wakes up in the morning? the things maybe morning? of all the things maybe a morning? of all the things maybe o-the—

morning? of all the things maybe o-the toot— morning? of all the things maybe a-the food bill,- morning? of all the things maybe a the food bill, maybe a can't pay the food bill, maybe my—ott- my electricity has gone off. i mtght— my electricity has gone off. i mtght-o— my electricity has gone off. i mtght-o ttot— my electricity has gone off. i might-a flat tire- my electricity has gone off. i might a flat tire in my might have a flat tire in my car, whatever,— might have a flat tire in my car, whatever, but i'd be thhwhg— car, whatever, but i'd be thinking the— car, whatever, but i'd be thinking the monarchy, it ehoutth-t— thinking the monarchy, it shouldn't exist. that know, thinking the monarchy, it sjustdn't exist. that know, thinking the monarchy, it sjust can't xist. that know, thinking the monarchy, it sjust can't get. that know, thinking the monarchy, it sjust can't get inhat know, thinking the monarchy, it sjust can't get in the know, thinking the monarchy, it sjust can't get in the headiow, thinking the monarchy, it sjust can't get in the head ofv, i just can't get in the head of oeoote— i just can't get in the head of oeoote. thet— i just can't get in the head of oeoote. thot te— i just can't get in the head of people. that is their priority in people. that is their priority th the— people. that is their priority to ttte . — people. that is their priority th ttte . t— people. that is their priority in life . l. 3: ' “t: in life. i understand. and i actually agree with you both. but i do believe in a right to express your opinion . but one express your opinion. but one thing we've got to know now is that we've never lived in a society that allows us now to complain basically about anything and because of the platforms like social media, you tend to find that there's other people out there with the same sort of reasoning or understanding that may understanding that you may have or complaints, you say. or your complaints, as you say. eamonn. but agree. mean, eamonn. but i agree. i mean, people up and you think, people wake up and you think, well, that's what i'm going to do. it seems surely there's do. it just seems surely there's other things, especially when it comes coronation and other things, especially when it con reason coronation and other things, especially when it conreason i coronation and other things, especially when it conreason i say coronation and other things, especially when it conreason i say thatoronation and other things, especially when it con reason i say thatorcthe on and the reason i say that is the coronation has a lot of people have it's once in a have said it's once in a lifetime. so when you've got the grand happens grand national happens every yean grand national happens every year, oh, well, year, they'll say, oh, well, we'll next year, we'll target that next year, we'll target that next year, we'll next year. we'll target that next year. that coronation was once a 99.8%

of everybody wanted to see the coronation they didn't want to see the protesters . so for me, see the protesters. so for me, there's sort of a time and a place when have your voice heard ? there was no need for it to happen at the coronation and bearin happen at the coronation and bear in mind, we're not just talking about anti monarchists here. you had just stop oil. you had insulate britain, everybody taking part were using that platform to get their voice heard. well, perhaps that wasn't the time to do it for the coronation but yet in this country we have we don't have a dictatorship . people have the dictatorship. people have the right to their opinions. right to voice their opinions. what they don't have is a thing to disrupt what's that long ago that we saw horse , that that we saw that horse, that police horse sort of stampede down the road and that poor police officer went straight into a into a into a road sign, injuring herself . that's what injuring herself. that's what can happen . yeah. remember that can happen. yeah. remember that that— can happen. yeah. remember that that we— can happen. yeah. remember that that tutthg— can happen. yeah. remember that that was during the— tie“ yeah. remember that that was during the black lives hotter— that was during the black lives matter protest.— that was during the black lives matter protest. and there was huge— matter protest. and there was huge hue— matter protest. and there was huge number of— matter protest. and there was huge number of injured police otttoete— huge number of injured police officers. that— huge number of injured police officers. that was— huge number of injured police officers. that was awful. look, soug— officers. that was awful. look, sottg thum— officers. that was awful. look, sottg hhom .— officers. that was awful. look, sadiq khan , very— officers. that was awful. look, sadiq khan , very unhappy with sadiq khan, very unhappy with the metropolitan— sadiq khan, very unhappy with the metropolitan police . he's the metropolitan police. he's eetee— the metropolitan police. he's oewet tot— the metropolitan police. he's oewet to em— the metropolitan police. he's

asked for an investigation into the.— asked for an investigation into the. tt— asked for an investigation into the. tt toee— asked for an investigation into this. it does feel— asked for an investigation into this. it does feel like every other— this. it does feel like every other toy— this. it does feel like every other day the— this. it does feel like every other day the metropolitan oottoe— other day the metropolitan oottoe — other day the metropolitan police are trouble for police are in trouble for eomethhg— police are in trouble for something other. where do you something or other. where do you thht— something or other. where do you thht-wttt— something or other. where do you thhw-wttt goe— something or other. where do you think-will go? i— something or other. where do you think will go? i mean, think that will go? i mean, where— think that will go? i mean, where-you— think that will go? i mean, where you think an where do you think an investigation land where do you think an investigation-land the investigation will land on the theme— investigation will land on the balance-this,- investigation will land on the balance this, given balance of all of this, given that— balance of all of this, given that-twe— balance of all of this, given that-like david. balance of all of this, given. that-like david davis, balance of all of this, given- that-like david davis, a that someone like david davis, a coheewotwe— that someone like david davis, a conservative—hasl conservative party member, has oteo— conservative party member, has oteo-thot— conservative party member, has also-that-new- conservative party member, has also that new rules also said that these new rules uhtet— also said that these new rules under the— also said that these new rules under this public— also said that these new rules under this public order act are ootuotty— under this public order act are ootuotty-htt— under this public order act are actually-bit too- under this public order act are actually bit too crude actually just a bit too crude out— actually just a bit too crude and -finessing- actually just a bit too crude and-finessing ? - actually just a bit too crude and finessing 7 , and need finessing? yeah, i thmw— and need finessing? yeah, i thmw ho-e— and need finessing? yeah, i think he's wrong because when you've got this type of disrupt occurring on the m25, as i say, or national events , you're going or national events, you're going to need these type of powers. put in place for the police to be able to do something . because be able to do something. because until then we can't. if somebody is themselves on is going to lock themselves on to fence or a road, etcetera, to a fence or a road, etcetera, we glue again what people must understand is the police even here operated to what they here have operated to what they call pneumonic plan they call that pneumonic plan. they were . they were proportionate, legal. they were proportionate, legal. they were accountable. and it's necessary . the police are used necessary. the police are used to this. police are used to to this. the police are used to scrutiny. the police are used to be criticised, being criticised the whole but the end the whole time. but at the end of you know, they have of the day, you know, they have a do and that's that the

a job to do and that's that the new public order bill 2023 is put in place by parliament and it was used effectively by the police . so i don't think police. so i don't think anything really will come of this apart from as we always hean this apart from as we always hear, there's a lot of lessons to be learned and they will be learned . now, i think the police learned. now, i think the police acted well and what must acted exactly well and what must be about the be said, we talk about the metropolitan i'm metropolitan police. i'm very fortunate know forces , fortunate to know other forces, and proud of the fact that and i was proud of the fact that you had essex, hertfordshire, kent, all these other forces working alongside the met. they're actually making the arrests . and that's, they're actually making the arre know, . and that's, they're actually making the arre know, that's. and that's, they're actually making the arre know, that's notd that's, they're actually making the arre know, that's not really s, you know, that's not really seen. think, you know, seen. so i think, you know, congratulations to all the police officers that part . police officers that took part. john, thanks for your views . john, thanks for your views. toute— john, thanks for your views. wouwe heeh— john, thanks for your views. you've been listening to john toytou— taylor, former metropolitan mothe— taylor, former metropolitan police -there. - taylor, former metropolitan police there. thank police detective there. thank you,— police detective there. thank you. john.— police detective there. thank you. tohh. amt— police detective there. thank you, john. and we that let us mow— you, john. and we that let us know what— you, john. and we that let us know what you— you, john. and we that let us know what you think of all of the.— know what you think of all of the. who— know what you think of all of the. mo to— know what you think of all of this. and do stay— know what you think of all of this. and do stay with us. we're totthg— this. and do stay with us. we're talking weather.— this. and do stay with us. we're talking weather. _ this. and do stay with us. we're talking weather. “tit: g this. and do stay with us. we're talking weather. “tit; i talking weather. yes, it was a bit wild yesterday afternoon in london and especially the huge balls of hail there was sort of miniature floods in the streets . yeah. what's that? yes. didn't see any wild weather. and there's more

3 and there's more thunderstorms on there's more thunderstorms on the why. — there's more thunderstorms on the way teth— there's more thunderstorms on the way. yeah. huge claps of hunger— the way. yeah. huge claps of thuhtet .— the way. yeah. huge claps of thunder , sort— the way. yeah. huge claps of thunder , sort of— the way. yeah. huge claps of thunder , sort of seven, 8:00, thunder, sort of seven, 8:00, wett— thunder, sort of seven, 8:00, wett he— thunder, sort of seven, 8:00, we'll be finding— thunder, sort of seven, 8:00, we'll be finding out if those howe— we'll be finding out if those have gone— we'll be finding out if those have gone away— we'll be finding out if those have gone away or if more could be have gone away or if more could he oh— have gone away or if more could he on the— have gone away or if more could he on the why— have gone away or if more could be on the way after— have gone away or if more could be on the way after this .

welcome back at 630. still to oh the— welcome back at 630. still to come on the program this momhg— come on the program this momhg. tuet— come on the program this morning, just before 7:00 at hewem.— morning, just before 7:00 at howowt. cox— morning, just before 7:00 at harvard, cox harvard is a fuel oomootgheu — harvard, cox harvard is a fuel oomootgheh — harvard, cox harvard is a fuel campaigner. he's— harvard, cox harvard is a fuel campaigner. ti; harvard, cox harvard is a fuel campaigner. he's now launched his campaign to become the mayor of london based on all the punitive charges there are getting your car in and out of london. so he's taking on sadiq khan. london. so he's taking on sadiq khan . and does he stand any khan. and does he stand any chance of success talking to him about that? and then our big tehote— about that? and then our big tehote ot— about that? and then our big debate at 7:20,— about that? and then our big debate at 7:20, we'll- seg7 and then our big debate at 7:20, we'll be talking ohout— debate at 7:20, we'll be talking ohout the— debate at 7:20, we'll be talking about the actor— debate at 7:20, we'll be talking about the actor on— debate at 7:20, we'll be talking about the actor on the hit wettth— about the actor on the hit netflix show— about the actor on the hit netflix show heartland, who said ohty— netflix show heartland, who said only gav— netflix show heartland, who said ohty guy toe— netflix show heartland, who said only gay actors should play gay oeet — only gay actors should play gay

oeet wett— only gay actors should play gay roles. we'll ask— only gay actors should play gay roles. we'll ask if— only gay actors should play gay roles. we'll ask if he's right. what— roles. we'll ask if he's right. what oven— roles. we'll ask if he's right. what te— roles. we'll ask if he's right. what even is heartland- roles. we'll ask if he's right. i“ 3 7 do roles. we'll ask if he's right. �*ftt�*“e “ 3 7’ do you what even is heartland? do you know what that is?— what even is heartland? do you know what that is? i— i“ 37 do you know what that is? i haven't tt. — know what that is? i haven't t. to.— know what that is? i haven't seen it. no, but- know what that is? i haven't seen it. \tit know what that is? i haven't seen it. \ttiit seen it. no, but see, i love the way we're supposed to know. what these tv series are. i thought you'd these tv series are. i thought you-t eee— these tv series are. i thought you'd seen them— these tv series are. i thought you'd seen them all. - . e”ti; ithought you'd seen them all. gmgg you'd seen them all. there's ouch— you'd seen them all. there's such to— you'd seen them all. there's such to tot— you'd seen them all. there's such a lot of— you'd seen them all. there's such a lot of rubbish. i'm going through this thing where i'm going to cancel all these star nations. we don't need to see succession or all these things that are all just just ridiculous . that are all just just ridiculous. ridiculous. do you know when was the last time you ever sat down? you thought, that's a really good movie? it's not. the movie's not. they want the oscar nominated are all things that have to make pull at your heartstrings. you love that . hoheheee— your heartstrings. you love that . hoheheee ot— your heartstrings. you love that . banshees of inisherin- ” “35 you love that . banshees of inisherin didn't. i . banshees of inisherin didn't. t thou— . banshees of inisherin didn't. t ttwou ht.— . banshees of inisherin didn't. t thee to t— . banshees of inisherin didn't. i liked it. i loved— . banshees of inisherin didn't. i liked it. i loved it.— . banshees of inisherin didn't. i liked it. i loved it. it- . banshees of inisherin didn't. i liked it. i loved it. it was- i liked it. i loved it. it was actually it was. it was very it was very interesting . yes. i'm was very interesting. yes. i'm not criticising that that not criticising that film. that was okay. all these ones was okay. but all these ones that all about, oh, that are just all about, oh, depression and whatever, whatever happened to having a good western michigan nominated rom coms all day long? rom com rom coms all day long? not enough of those used to make a not enough of those used to make u tot— not enough of those used to make u tot ot— not enough of those used to make u tot ot — not enough of those used to make a lot of rom coms_ not enough of those used to make a lot of rom coms in— not enough of those used to make a lot of rom coms in the early the — a lot of rom coms in the early the teth— a lot of rom coms in the early 90s. yeah, the— a lot of rom coms in the early

90s. yeah, the harry met sally era 90s. yeah, the harry met sally oho— 90s. yeah, the harry met sally oht the— 90s. yeah, the harry met sally era and the richard curtis movies-them- era and the richard curtis movies. them all. movies. i love them all. wottmg— movies. i love them all. notting hill.— movies. i love them all. notting hill. she's- movies. i love them all. wing“; .. she's horrible. notting hill. she's horrible. who? oh yeah, she is. yeah, she's. she shouldn't be ever ottowet— she's. she shouldn't be ever ottowet to— she's. she shouldn't be ever allowed to be— she shouldn't be ever allowed to be interviewed. she-e. — allowed to be interviewed. she-e. t— allowed to be interviewed. she's. i don't— allowed to be interviewed. she's. i don't think she does them— she's. i don't think she does them anymore— she's. i don't think she does them anymore she. them anymore does she. after that— them anymore does she. after that-crash. well- them anymore does she. after that-crash. well she's- them anymore does she. i well she'sjust, that car crash. well she's just, ehe-e— that car crash. well she's just, ehe-e hot— that car crash. well she's just, ehe-e hot .— that car crash. well she's just, she's bad . she's— that car crash. well she's just, she's bad . she's bad.- ti.e” i well she's just, she's bad . she's bad. you can she's bad. she's bad. you can teth— she's bad. she's bad. you can tett het— she's bad. she's bad. you can tell her when _ she's bad. she's bad. you can tell her when you— she's bad. she's bad. you can tell her when you interview her ehe— tell her when you interview her ehe tuet— tell her when you interview her ehe tuet gtozee— tell her when you interview her she just glazes over and you go, whoo— she just glazes over and you go, whoo. ehe-e— she just glazes over and you go, whoa, she's going— she just glazes over and you go, whoa, she's going to explode and she whoa, she's going to explode and ehe ewototee— whoa, she's going to explode and ehe ewototee .— whoa, she's going to explode and she explodes . that's she explodes. that's interesting. - she explodes. that's interesting. and but just mother— interesting. and but just another true— interesting. and but just another true story from people twe— another true story from people i've interviewed _ another true story from people i've interviewed down through the ye — i've interviewed down through the years. when— i've interviewed down through the years. when i— i've interviewed down through the years. when i interviewed i htewtewet— the years. when i interviewed i interviewed her— the years. when i interviewed i interviewed her in— the years. when i interviewed i interviewed her in paris. it's a toug— interviewed her in paris. it's a tohg etoty— interviewed her in paris. it's a tohg etoty. hut— interviewed her in paris. it's a long story. but anyway, the ooht— long story. but anyway, the ooht te— long story. but anyway, the point is, people— long story. but anyway, the point is, people didn't believe me uhttt— point is, people didn't believe me uhttt they— point is, people didn't believe me until they saw the party and yeah.— me until they saw the party and yeah go. — me until they saw the party and yeah go. they— me until they saw the party and yeah go. they ott— me until they saw the party and yeah, go. they all think there are yeah, go. they all think there o tot— yeah, go. they all think there o tot ot— yeah, go. they all think there are a lot of characters get away wtth— are a lot of characters get away wtth thte. — are a lot of characters get away with this. there— are a lot of characters get away with this. there are— are a lot of characters get away with this. there are people that are with this. there are people that owe-tt— with this. there are people that owe-to towe— with this. there are people that are-i'd love-name- are actors. i'd love to name them.— are actors. i'd love to name them. come— are actors. i'd love to name them. come-and- are actors. i'd love to name them. come and they they them. come on. and they they oeoote— them. come on. and they they people associate _ them. come on. and they they people associate them with the towety— people associate them with the towety. outtty— people associate them with the lovely, cuddly character that they— lovely, cuddly character that they hove.— lovely, cuddly character that they have 0h.— lovely, cuddly character that they have. oh, yeah. and they're not they have. oh, yeah. and they're hot the— they have. oh, yeah. and they're hot the that— they have. oh, yeah. and they're not like that at— they have. oh, yeah. and they're not like that at all. _ they have. oh, yeah. and they're not like that at all. they're the— not like that at all. they're the — not like that at all. they're the ones. they're the fascinating- the ones. they're the fascinating ones . they have the ones. they're the— fascinating ones . they have been fascinating ones. they have been outed.— fascinating ones. they have been outet. thoet— fascinating ones. they have been outet. thoet ot— fascinating ones. they have been outed. most of them have been ottet— outed. most of them have been ottet th— outed. most of them have been aided in some— outed. most of them have been aided in some way. but she's one meg— aided in some way. but she's one theg ttyoh-e— aided in some way. but she's one theg ttyoh-e oe— aided in some way. but she's one theg ttyoh-e eh—

aided in some way. but she's one meg ryan's one gb views ehwtwsuh— meg ryan's one gb views gbnews.uk or tweet a gb news. she-e— gbnews.uk or tweet a gb news. she-e .— gbnews.uk or tweet a gb news. she-e . tttght. — gbnews.uk or tweet a gb news. she's . right. she's. right. commuters are being warned to prepare for more travel disruption today after the met office issued a yellow weather warning with thunderstorms and heavy rain battering parts of britain. so what is the yellow weather warning mean ? is that like what warning mean? is that like what otooute— warning mean? is that like what otooute to— warning mean? is that like what colours do they— warning mean? is that like what colours do they go— warning mean? is that like what colours do they go up?- “g 7 is that like what colours do they go up? presume red colours do they go up? presume wet te— colours do they go up? presume wet te the— colours do they go up? presume red is the end— colours do they go up? presume red is the end of— colours do they go up? presume red is the end of the world. amher— red is the end of the world. amhot te— red is the end of the world. amber is the— red is the end of the world. ' t3t3i what's amber is the middle. what's yellow between _ amber is the middle. what's yellow between yellow- ' t3t3i what's yellow between yellow and amber . they-te— yellow between yellow and amber , they're practically— yellow between yellow and amber , they're practically the same ooouut — , they're practically the same colour. -know- , they're practically the same colour. -know why. . , they're practically the same. colour. -know why. why colour. i don't know why. why wouldn't you just have green? it's going be a day, it's going to be a good day, amher— it's going to be a good day, hmhet .— it's going to be a good day, hmhet. tt-e— it's going to be a good day, amber. it's going to be not so good— amber. it's going to be not so good toy.— amber. it's going to be not so good day who— amber. it's going to be not so good day. and then red, you see, why— good day. and then red, you see, why to— good day. and then red, you see, why to we— good day. and then red, you see, why to we eeh— good day. and then red, you see, why do we even give credit to theee— why do we even give credit to these - systems? - why do we even give credit to these systems? and these these systems? and then they— these these systems? and then they — these these systems? and then they name them,— these these systems? and then they name them, know, trixie they name them, you know, trixie storm.— they name them, you know, trixie storm. tthte— they name them, you know, trixie storm, trixie storm— they name them, you know, trixie storm, trixie storm milly. so what— storm, trixie storm milly. so whot o— storm, trixie storm milly. so whot o tot— storm, trixie storm milly. so what a lot of— storm, trixie storm milly. so what a lot of nonsense. there o htg— what a lot of nonsense. there was a big storm— what a lot of nonsense. there was a big storm anyway, you say you— was a big storm anyway, you say you eoy— was a big storm anyway, you say you eoy there— was a big storm anyway, you say you say there were _ was a big storm anyway, you say you say there were snowballs oomthg— you say there were snowballs coming through— you say there were snowballs coming through the air yeetettoy. — coming through the air yesterday. i- coming through the air yesterday. . ti; ” coming through the air yesterday. coming through the air- yesterday. i never saw a thing. yes. harpenden yesterday, water

gushing down the street, sort of berkshire sort of way. is it? why do you say harpenden? i saw it on twitter and hammersmith bus station . it was really bad. bus station. it was really bad. anyway don't take my opinion or hammersmith , but jim dale will hammersmith, but jim dale will tell us what it was like yesterday. jim is a meteorology this yesterday. jim is a meteorology thte momhg— yesterday. jim is a meteorology this morning. jim,— 3 jim is a meteorology this morning. jim, good morning to you. — this morning. jim, good morning to you. good— this morning. jim, good morning to you. good morning- this morning. jim, good morning to you. i: “3 all right. to you. good morning. all right. vett— to you. good morning. all right. mett. how— to you. good morning. all right. well, how would— to you. good morning. all right. well, how would you— to you. i: “3 all right. well, how would you sum up yeetetooy— well, how would you sum up yeetettoye — well, how would you sum up yeetettoye t— well, how would you sum up yesterday ? 3 g well, how would you sum up yesterday ? 3 i yesterday? i would say it was the start of the thunderstorm season. long time coming april. normally delivers a few showers. it tended not to. we didn't see too many thunderstorms. but i think yesterday was a good meteorologist day watching what isabel's just described, the hail and the and the flooding and some lightning and i mean, it's a normal thing at this time of year. you know, we get the right recipe of temperature, humidity , low pressure and humidity, low pressure and a presto, the buttons get pressed and we get these kind of events. and by the way, you don't get them everywhere, which is why you missed it. many people saw it or some people saw it because

they're hit and miss and they spnng they're hit and miss and they spring on you. so sometimes they can arrive as a bit of a shock or surprise and deliver their goods. right. so how long is the— goods. right. so how long is thte womthg— goods. right. so how long is this warning in— 3: right. so how long is this warning in place then? if you— this warning in place then? if you ety— this warning in place then? if you eoy we— this warning in place then? if you say we normally have it in homu— you say we normally have it in hoot. wehe— you say we normally have it in april, we're getting it sort of mtg—wow— april, we're getting it sort of mto—hoy. you— april, we're getting it sort of mid—may, you know, what's the eott— mid—may, you know, what's the eott ot— mid—may, you know, what's the sort of window— mid—may, you know, what's the sort of window stretch till seotemhet— sort of window stretch till september now? i sort of window stretch till— september now? because we are in the thunderstorm season as the thunderstorm season much as the thunderstorm season much as the states. so when the the united states. so when the recipe get recipe is correct, we will get these events more and more. so a little bit more heat in the atmosphere. we've got that now. it's not it's not overheat, obviously , we're waiting for the obviously, we're waiting for the hot spells to arrive. but but there's enough heat and instability there for these to carry on. but in terms of where we are now, now today, particularly in the south—east east anglia , down through kent east anglia, down through kent and surrey , sussex, these sort and surrey, sussex, these sort of places, i think those are the prone zones today, later today, not this morning. it's a beautiful morning for many us beautiful morning for many of us this actually . so make this morning, actually. so make the of that one. and the most of that one. and tomorrow as well, to a certain degree, sporadic outbreaks here or get rid of it

or there. we'll get rid of it probably by friday and saturday. better i i think so . it's better days. i i think so. it's really just watch your backs today and tomorrow. well, i was looking at my phone app and you know, when you can see a whole week ahead the forecast and it was just rain apart from the weekend apparently they say that that's down to britain being nearly constantly in the path of the jet stream. and that brings a conveyor belt— the jet stream. and that brings a conveyor belt of— the jet stream. and that brings a conveyor belt of low- and that brings a conveyor belt of low pressure weothet— a conveyor belt of low pressure weather systems _ a conveyor belt of low pressure weather systems . _ a conveyor belt of low pressure weather systems . t/ggyo a conveyor belt of low pressure weather systems . t/tine“ weather systems. yeah, that's correct. that's exactly what it is. it might not necessarily have the ferocious winds we get in the wintertime sometimes associated with it, but you do get the low pressure areas and the low pressure is the designator, if you like, for these thunderstorms to occur. and everything within them. and i think there's certain places yesterday in devon, somerset , yesterday in devon, somerset, you've mentioned harpenden , you've mentioned harpenden, that's a new one on me. but anyway, these things do do occur and they can be they can be quite dangerous. so it's not a case of doing the wrong thing within these things as in

walking across open fields, being in your, your yacht or eamonn on in the channel that you you super luxury yacht sitting there in open waters not the place to be ridges of mountains or hills not the place to be so certain place and under trees. obviously the classic not the place to be certain places you can be a little bit safer a sit in and watch the telly. tim thank you. yeah, thank- g i“ 3 i tim thank you. yeah, thank you very much. — thank you. yeah, thank you very much. teth— thank you. yeah, thank you very much. yeah. thank— thank you. yeah, thank you very much. yeah. thank you very much. jim hote— much. yeah. thank you very much. jim hote there.— much. yeah. thank you very much. jim dale there, the— jim dale there, the meteorologist . thank you. jim dale there, the— meteorologist . thank you. we've meteorologist. thank you. we've just meteorologist. thank you. we've tuet hou— meteorologist. thank you. we've tuet hoot o— meteorologist. thank you. we've just had a recommendation of a movie for you, eamonn. yep, a message for. and i saw a really great film the other day. you might like it. it was called ticket to paradise, says brian stafford. little tip for you, who-e— stafford. little tip for you, who's-ticket— stafford. little tip for you, who's .ticket to - 3 little tip for you, who's ticket to paradise? who's in ticket to paradise? eh.— who's in ticket to paradise? oh—oewmg. - who's in ticket to paradise? oh,_asking. i'vei who's in ticket to paradise? - oh,_asking. i've seen oh, now you're asking. i've seen it oh, now you're asking. i've seen tt otwettteet— oh, now you're asking. i've seen it advertised on— oh, now you're asking. i've seen it advertised on my— oh, now you're asking. i've seen it advertised on my home- o“ ”ti; “3 i've seen it advertised on my home screen. wee. — it advertised on my home screen. wee. amt— it advertised on my home screen. yee. hhu tutu— it advertised on my home screen. yes. and julia roberts is. it ooute— yes. and julia roberts is. it ooutt wett— yes. and julia roberts is. it could well-and- yes. and julia roberts is. it could well ' “t: yes. and julia roberts is. it- could well-and the two of could well be. and the two of them, they used to be married could well be. and the two of thertheyzy used to be married could well be. and the two of therthey end;ed to be married could well be. and the two of therthey end up to be married could well be. and the two of therthey end up on be married could well be. and the two of therthey end up on be iisland! could well be. and the two of therthey end up on be iisland or and they end up on an island or something. and i think it's their passion is reawakened. they hate each other. well, that sounds they hate each other. well, that eoute ute— they hate each other. well, that eoute the my— they hate each other. well, that sounds like my kind— they hate each other. well, that sounds like my kind of- “cg i“ well, that sounds like my kind of film. woe. — sounds like my kind of film. too a— sounds like my kind of film. too a — sounds like my kind of film. yes. a rom com.— sounds like my kind of film. yes. a rom com. he-

sounds like my kind of film. yes. a rom com. he likes a western. brian but anyway, i wtt— western. brian but anyway, i wttt towe— western. brian but anyway, i will take your— but anyway,i will take your recommendation oho— will take your recommendation oht uh— will take your recommendation oht wtth— will take your recommendation and run with it.— will take your recommendation and run with it. but listen, heeh— and run with it. but listen, weeo thoee— and run with it. but listen, keep those thoughts coming in and keep those thoughts coming in tho to— keep those thoughts coming in tho to ethy— keep those thoughts coming in and do stay with— keep those thoughts coming in and do stay with us as we're oethg— and do stay with us as we're oewthg. coutu— and do stay with us as we're asking. could the— and do stay with us as we're asking. could the answer to nhs etotttmg— asking. could the answer to nhs etottthg he— asking. could the answer to nhs staffing be actually getting eohoot— staffing be actually getting school leavers— staffing be actually getting school leavers to work as tootote— school leavers to work as tootote e— school leavers to work as doctors ? we'll- school leavers to work as doctors ? we'll discuss that in doctors? we'll discuss that in the— doctors? we'll discuss that in the-wtth— doctors? we'll discuss that in the -with david - doctors? we'll discuss that in the with david mellor and the papers with david mellor and emo— the papers with david mellor and tmmo-who— the papers with david mellor and emma-who leaves- the papers with david mellor and emma who leaves to work emma burnell, who leaves to work as emma burnell, who leaves to work oe tootote. — emma burnell, who leaves to work as doctors. .idea_ emma burnell, who leaves to work as doctors. 3 that's as doctors. no idea. that's tumo— as doctors. no idea. that's tumh. twe— as doctors. no idea. that's dumb. i've seen— as doctors. no idea. that's dumb. i've seen it.- as doctors. \ttiit 3 that's dumb. i've seen it. oh dear , dumb. i've seen it. oh dear, oeu— dumb. i've seen it. oh dear, teot .—

i'm at 20 minutes to seven. we're just going to bring you up to date with the way the morning newspapers look. the mail asks if the of donald if this is the end of donald trump's bid to be president, but after jury he sexually after a jury found he sexually abused the writer e jean carroll . well, the eye is focusing on the— . well, the eye is focusing on the archbishop— . well, the eye is focusing on the archbishop of— well, the eye is focusing on the archbishop of canterbury's oottttoot— the archbishop of canterbury's political battle— the archbishop of canterbury's political battle with the government _ political battle with the government over its policy on mtgtohte. —

government over its policy on migrants. .time,- government over its policy on migrants. g migrants. this time, says britain's poised to blacklist russia's wagner group as a terrorist organisation . here's terrorist organisation. here's the express. it leads- g“ “tit“ here's the express. it leads with hhtoth-e— the express. it leads with britain's catastrophic, as it teeohhee— britain's catastrophic, as it describes obesity crisis as 7000 ttohetee— describes obesity crisis as 7000 diabetes sufferers— describes obesity crisis as 7000 diabetes sufferers die needlessly- diabetes sufferers die needlessly every year. ' “t: needlessly every year. and that-e— needlessly every year. and thot-e o— needlessly every year. and thot-e to th— needlessly every year. and that's a big story. needlessly every year. and that's a big story . and finally, that's a big story. and finally, the sun, says meghan markle has hired kim kardashian's former bodyguard as the duchess revamps. why do we care? why do we care? through that story in the bin? that's a really the sun amte— the bin? that's a really the sun amte eetee— the bin? that's a really the sun arnie cares. yeah.— the bin? that's a really the sun arnie cares. yeah. to— “7 that's a really the sun arnie cares. yeah. to people who the— arnie cares. yeah. to people who the th— arnie cares. yeah. to people who the th the— arnie cares. yeah. to people who live in this country. _ arnie cares. yeah. to people who live in this country. what we weeht— live in this country. what we weeht gothg— live in this country. what we weren't going to— live in this country. what we weren't going to raise it heoouee— weren't going to raise it because we know about the news. wooh. — because we know about the news. wooh. teth— because we know about the news. yeah. yeah. we're— because we know about the news. yeah. yeah. we're all— because we know about the news. yeah. yeah. we're all about- because we know about the news. t/tine“ t/tine“ �*ftt�*ti; ”ti; yeah. yeah. we're all about the whereas you know who knows whether guys are going do whether you guys are going to do but know stop it. don't but you know stop it. don't stop. i've got two of them this morning. de—man i'm stop. i've got two of them this morning . de—man i'm with you, morning. de—man i'm with you, hate.— morning. de—man i'm with you, teohet-tt— morning. de—man i'm with you, teohet-tt oh— morning. de—man i'm with you, isabel. -it on track- isabel. i'll keep it on track hght— isabel. i'll keep it on track hght-tot-e- isabel. i'll keep it on track right-let's start. isabel. i'll keep it on track. right-let's start with right. david, let's start with you donald trump and can you then. donald trump and can i just say for the record, because you then. donald trump and can i jlwantedior the record, because you then. donald trump and can i jlwanted to the record, because you then. donald trump and can i jlwanted to talk'ecord, because you then. donald trump and can i jlwanted to talk about because you then. donald trump and can i jlwanted to talk about kimiuse i wanted to talk about kim kardashian. a few kardashian. we've had a few emails and i've had a few tweets as well saying, why aren't we talking about hunter this talking about hunter biden? this is supposed balanced. the

is supposed to be balanced. the reason is because reason we're not is because we are the which are covering the news, which means about the new means we talk about the new stuff the new stuff is that stuff and the new stuff is that trump not been found in his trump has not been found in his favour. hunter biden favour. and the hunter biden stuff is not new. what is hunter httem— stuff is not new. what is hunter htteh tohee — stuff is not new. what is hunter biden done? incidentally, now that whole that you've raised a whole nother story, what's he done? well ago, there were a lot well ages ago, there were a lot of allegations his laptop of allegations around his laptop and there, we and what was on there, which we don't into now, but don't have to go into now, but obviously incensed the right but what has trump done, according to the sorry , to this jury, the an i'm sorry, a woman called jean carroll. i don't know why she's called. i thtmw— don't know why she's called. i ththw tt-e— don't know why she's called. i ththw he very— don't know why she's called. i think it's very chic. but she is cottou— think it's very chic. but she is called e.g. that's— think it's very chic. but she is called e.g. that's and- think it's very chic. but she is called e.g. that's and a- think it's very chic. i: titg that's and a jury in called e.g. that's and a jury in a called e.g. that's and a jury in o otwtt— called e.g. that's and a jury in o otwtt otee— called e.g. that's and a jury in a civil case, let— called e.g. that's and a jury in a civil case, let me— i: titg that's and a jury in a civil case, let me say, found homoto— a civil case, let me say, found homott humo— a civil case, let me say, found donald trump had— a civil case, let me say, found donald trump had sexually abused her out— donald trump had sexually abused her oht the— donald trump had sexually abused her and the total— donald trump had sexually abused her and the total fines amount to ho— her and the total fines amount to $5 million.— her and the total fines amount to $5 million. needless to say , to $5 million. needless to say, humo— to $5 million. needless to say, ttumo hoe— to $5 million. needless to say, trump has said— to $5 million. needless to say, trump has said that you know, that— trump has said that you know, that he— trump has said that you know, that he not — trump has said that you know, that it's not. it's— trump has said that you know, that it's not. it's not true. amt— that it's not. it's not true. amt he— that it's not. it's not true. and he said— that it's not. it's not true. and he said it— that it's not. it's not true. and he said it in a usual wotoohto— and he said it in a usual volcanic trump- and he said it in a usual volcanic trump way. but it raises an interesting question. i raises an interesting question. t meth— raises an interesting question. t thet— raises an interesting question. i mean, first of— raises an interesting question. i mean, first of all, can can tumo— i mean, first of all, can can ttumo wtth— i mean, first of all, can can trump with the— i mean, first of all, can can trump with the mass of lawsuits

thet— trump with the mass of lawsuits that there — trump with the mass of lawsuits that there are _ trump with the mass of lawsuits that there are against him, can he otetthty— that there are against him, can he credibly survive kyiv an eteottoh— he credibly survive kyiv an election campaign and win? and as election campaign and win? and oe hoote— election campaign and win? and as one looks at— election campaign and win? and as one looks at the— election campaign and win? and as one looks at the world news out— as one looks at the world news omt gotmg— as one looks at the world news and we're going to— as one looks at the world news and we're going to come on to meet— and we're going to come on to ttueeto oho— and we're going to come on to russia and stuff— and we're going to come on to russia and stuff like that in oue— russia and stuff like that in due ttme— russia and stuff like that in due ttme um — russia and stuff like that in due time um provided we don't howe— due time um provided we don't have to— due time um provided we don't have to teet— due time um provided we don't have to deal with— due time um provided we don't have to deal with kim kardashian,- have to deal with kim kardashian, of course. and what we hete te— kardashian, of course. and what we see here is to— kardashian, of course. and what we see here is to the greatest oouhtty— we see here is to the greatest oouhtty th— we see here is to the greatest country to the— we see here is to the greatest country in the world has got a otoooet— country in the world has got a otoooet out— country in the world has got a clapped out old— country in the world has got a clapped out old 80 year old as the oteetteht— clapped out old 80 year old as the president and— clapped out old 80 year old as the president and donald trump, who— the president and donald trump, who te— the president and donald trump, who te .— the president and donald trump, who te . oe— the president and donald trump, who te . oe you— the president and donald trump, who is , as you know, he just he who is, as you know, he just he tuet— who is, as you know, he just he tuet te— who is, as you know, he just he tuet te tototty— who is, as you know, he just he just is totally and— who is, as you know, he just he just is totally and utterly unreliable. _ just is totally and utterly unreliable. and dishonest. is that— unreliable. and dishonest. is that the— unreliable. and dishonest. is that the best— unreliable. and dishonest. is that the best they can really toe— that the best they can really toe wheth— that the best they can really do? well, his— that the best they can really do? well, his defence is that he hoem-t— do? well, his defence is that he hoeh-t hot— do? well, his defence is that he hoeh-t hot o— do? well, his defence is that he hasn't had a fair— do? well, his defence is that he hasn't had a fair trial because the— hasn't had a fair trial because thte te— hasn't had a fair trial because thte te hot— hasn't had a fair trial because thte te hot o— hasn't had a fair trial because this is not a trump area. “ this is not a trump area. in toot.— this is not a trump area. in toot. tho— this is not a trump area. in fact, the defendant- this is not a trump area. in fact, the defendant or now the successful claimant is a registered democrat. is that fair? well i mean, he can say it, but the point is, why does he get himself into these scrapes where people bring forward these things? i mean,

there are plenty— forward these things? i mean, there are plenty of— forward these things? i mean, there are plenty of other- there are plenty of other candidates— there are plenty of other candidates for- there are plenty of other candidates for office who have heeh— candidates for office who have been controversial, but they hewem-t— been controversial, but they meet hot— been controversial, but they haven't had this— been controversial, but they haven't had this this trail of toweutte— haven't had this this trail of lawsuits. and,— haven't had this this trail of lawsuits. and, of— haven't had this this trail of lawsuits. and, of course, it's so lawsuits. and, of course, it's eo tyotoot— lawsuits. and, of course, it's eo tyotoot ot— lawsuits. and, of course, it's so typical of trump, this huetmeee— so typical of trump, this business that- so typical of trump, this business that a woman is there thet— business that a woman is there that he— business that a woman is there that he ooh— business that a woman is there that he can just— business that a woman is there that he can just grab any part of that he can just grab any part ot het— that he can just grab any part ot her that— that he can just grab any part of her that he— that he can just grab any part of her that he wants. i mean, the— of her that he wants. i mean, thte te— of her that he wants. i mean, thte te o— of her that he wants. i mean, thte te o t— of her that he wants. i mean, this is a i think,— of her that he wants. i mean, this is a i think, a- of her that he wants. i mean, this is a i think, a revolting ewttt— this is a i think, a revolting etttt ot— this is a i think, a revolting skill of basically is how has he hete— skill of basically is how has he hett oh— skill of basically is how has he hett on to— skill of basically is how has he held on to his— skill of basically is how has he held on to his existing wife? that-e— held on to his existing wife? thot-e whet— held on to his existing wife? that's what i'd_ held on to his existing wife? that's what i'd like- held on to his existing wife? that's what i'd like to- held on to his existing wife? that's what i'd like to know, why she looks at these headlines and these court case like this. and stays with them. i mean, that it absolutely baffles me. it baffles me, too. i mean, the problem, dave , is asking whether problem, dave, is asking whether trump can continue his political career . and trump can continue his political career. and we trump can continue his political career . and we know that at the career. and we know that at the entertainment tonight tape where he talks about grabbing women by parts of their anatomy that i won't mention at breakfast. and he went on after that to be elected president . yeah, i know. elected president. yeah, i know. and he has not lost his support in the republican party . the in the republican party. the republican party are determined

and it seems to choose him as their candidate. the only person who looked like he might challenge was ron desantis, who tried to put himself forward as trump without the baggage . but trump without the baggage. but the baggage is the point . the the baggage is the point. the baggage, if we applied- wu the baggage, if we applied it to oottttoot— baggage, if we applied it to political rules— baggage, if we applied it to political rules and standing in the— political rules and standing in thte country.— political rules and standing in this country, david mellor would hhhg— this country, david mellor would hhhg htm — this country, david mellor would bring him down— this country, david mellor would bring him down there is no he woutth-t— bring him down there is no he woutth-t he— bring him down there is no he wouldn't be anywhere. 3“ g wouldn't be anywhere. wouldn't stom— wouldn't be anywhere. wouldn't etott tt— wouldn't be anywhere. wouldn't even start it. but you see, this is the trouble with with america . you see, trump was a democrat. he was never a republican. and he becomes effectively an entryist into the republican party. and if you have enough people who are so determined that you should become the candidate that they will put up with all the things that trump supporters put up with, it's very difficult to stop up to stop him when it's a primary based campaign where a minority of people can actually determine the outcome by being totally and utterly determined that their man will win . it doesn't mean

man will win. it doesn't mean he'll win a general election, of course. no, but i mean , i think course. no, but i mean, i think the— course. no, but i mean, i think the otohtem— course. no, but i mean, i think the otohtem te— ti.tit. no, but i mean, i think the problem is you're framing the— the problem is you're framing thte oe— the problem is you're framing thte oe they— the problem is you're framing this as they put— the problem is you're framing this as they put up with it. i ththw— this as they put up with it. i ththw tt-e— this as they put up with it. i think it's celebrated by a oettoth— think it's celebrated by a oettoth o— think it's celebrated by a certain a certain portion of the teouhtto— certain a certain portion of the teouhtto ohmoty— certain a certain portion of the republic primary vote. you know . the— republic primary vote. you know . the my— republic primary vote. you know . the ohty thtmg— republic primary vote. you know , the only thing i— republic primary vote. you know , the only thing i don't like, there-e— , the only thing i don't like, there-e ho— , the only thing i don't like, there's no point— , the only thing i don't like, there's no point in going on. he— there's no point in going on. he the— there's no point in going on. it's the republicans- there's no point in going on. it's the republicans as- there's no point in going on. it's the republicans as if- there's no point in going on. it's the republicans as if the democrats are good. hunter biden was a disgrace. and you know what bothers me? what bothers me is that joe biden is a clapped out old, very old for his years. eight year old biden. and we cannot just deal with trump and not deal with the equally awful this morning joe biden of them has been found to have sexually abused a woman and the other has not. and that is the difference hght— not. and that is the difference hght how— not. and that is the difference right now, frankly— not. and that is the difference right now, frankly ,_ and that is the difference right now, frankly , joe biden is right now, frankly, joe biden is oto.— right now, frankly, joe biden is oto. wee— right now, frankly, joe biden is oto. wee he— right now, frankly, joe biden is old. yes he is.— right now, frankly, joe biden is old. yes he is. joe— right now, frankly, joe biden is old. yes he is. joe biden has otwoye— old. yes he is. joe biden has otwoye heeh— old. yes he is. joe biden has always been a— old. yes he is. joe biden has always been a bit- old. yes he is. joe biden has always been a bit gaffe prone. thet— always been a bit gaffe prone. thot te— always been a bit gaffe prone. thot te true— always been a bit gaffe prone. thot te ttue .— always been a bit gaffe prone. that is true . that— always been a bit gaffe prone. that is true . that is not in any that is true. that is not in any way— that is true. that is not in any way heo— that is true. that is not in any woy the— that is true. that is not in any way near the magnitude of hunter htteh— way near the magnitude of hunter htteh who— way near the magnitude of hunter htteh who te— way near the magnitude of hunter biden, who is hunter biden's not eteotet— biden, who is hunter biden's not eteotet to— biden, who is hunter biden's not elected to anything anyway. tot-e— elected to anything anyway. tot-e mot—

elected to anything anyway. let's not bother— elected to anything anyway. let's not bother with- elected to anything anyway. let's not bother with this. but i just think, you know , we are i just think, you know, we are here to try and discuss objectively these things, not take a partisan. i'm not taking a partisan view. i'm saying that this a partisan view. i'm saying that thte te— a partisan view. i'm saying that thte te the— a partisan view. i'm saying that this is the case— a partisan view. i'm saying that this is the case of— . i'm saying that this is the case of where the tteouhttoohe— this is the case of where the republicans are— this is the case of where the republicans are at. the democrats— republicans are at. the democrats have a candidate that has democrats have a candidate that hoe teeuee— democrats have a candidate that has issues and— democrats have a candidate that has issues and the— democrats have a candidate that has issues and the democrats are wohtemut. — has issues and the democrats are wonderful. and— has issues and the democrats are wonderful. and the— has issues and the democrats are wonderful. “3 “i wonderful. and the republican arnie i don't buy into that just been found to have sexually abused a woman. and it is not going— abused a woman. and it is not gothg to— abused a woman. and it is not gothg to htt— abused a woman. and it is not gothg to htt hte— abused a woman. and it is not going to hit his poll— 3 “ and it is not going to hit his poll ratings at ott. — going to hit his poll ratings at ott. wheth— going to hit his poll ratings at ott. wtott. wo— going to hit his poll ratings at all. well, we don't- going to hit his poll ratings at all. �*ftt�*ti;.i 3“ g all. well, we don't know that, do we? there is a story at the trout— do we? there is a story at the trout ot— do we? there is a story at the trout ot the— t3tit 7 there is a story at the front of the telegraph and i'm a geot— front of the telegraph and i'm a great believer— front of the telegraph and i'm a great believer in— great believer in apprenticeships. absolutely. ththt— apprenticeships. absolutely. ththt tm— apprenticeships. absolutely. think i'm not— apprenticeships. absolutely. think i'm not necessarily a hettewet— think i'm not necessarily a hettewet th— think i'm not necessarily a believer in third- think i'm not necessarily a believer in third level education,— believer in third level education, an but and i think apprenticeships— education, an but and i think apprenticeships are fantastic ththg— apprenticeships are fantastic ththg hut— apprenticeships are fantastic thing but this— apprenticeships are fantastic thing but this has to be a nonsense story- thing but this has to be a nonsense story on the front of the— nonsense story on the front of the how— nonsense story on the front of the daily telegraph and the goemmeht— the daily telegraph and the government, they don't train enough— government, they don't train enough doctors.— government, they don't train enough doctors. they don't pay for enough doctors. they don't pay too ehough— enough doctors. they don't pay for enough doctors. so what are they— for enough doctors. so what are they imposing— for enough doctors. so what are they proposing 7 _ for enough doctors. so what are they proposing ? “tig ”ti; they proposing? they're proposing that 1 in 10 doctors now will not have a university degree of this new cohort going through . so they will just do an

through. so they will just do an on the job apprenticeship as a doctor . now it's doctors and doctor. now it's doctors and nurses for nursing. i can absolutely see this being a valuable us non—academic route into nursing. i don't think we need to have purely academic routes into nursing , but my god, routes into nursing, but my god, i want my doctor to have a medical degree. but i think it'd be medical degree. but i think it'd he wohtemut— medical degree. but i think it'd be wonderful to— medical degree. but i think it'd be wonderful to go— medical degree. but i think it'd be wonderful to go to- medical degree. but i think it'd be wonderful to go to a- i“ti;t3 ie 3ti;tgii;ti; but i think it'd be wonderful to go to a doctor who— be wonderful to go to a doctor who ooh-t— be wonderful to go to a doctor who can't read— be wonderful to go to a doctor who can't read and write. you mow.— who can't read and write. you mow. the— who can't read and write. you know thte te— who can't read and write. you know, this is a— who can't read and write. you know, this is a new experience at, know, this is a new experience at you— know, this is a new experience at you mow.— know, this is a new experience at you know t— know, this is a new experience at, you know, i mean, i look homoto— at, you know, i mean, i look tomortltt— at, you know, i mean, i look forward.it.lhope- at, you know, i mean, i look forward.it.lhope i- at, you know, i mean, i look forward it. hope i live forward to it. i hope i live toug— forward to it. i hope i live tohg ehough— forward to it. i hope i live long enough to- forward to it. i hope i live long enough to see it. “tifti; ye”ti; long enough to see it. there are doctore— long enough to see it. there are uootote mu— long enough to see it. there are doctors and doctors and, you know, you can have a a—level for whatever grading is whatever the grading system is now top of the class now at the top of the class candidate who's perfectly bright, capable, who bright, perfectly capable, who can to assist in can be there to assist in theatre watching, you theatre learning, watching, you know for example, my cousin, know, for example, my cousin, she's junior doctor. she's a junior doctor. she's been, fully qualified. been, you know, fully qualified. but often in theatre but she's often in theatre doing very menial tasks the first very menial tasks for the first little while you could do that as year old. as an intelligent 18 year old. yeah, the point that they yeah, but the point is that they will a fully fledged will then be a fully fledged doctor. they, i mean, they can work— doctor. they, i mean, they can wow-why— doctor. they, i mean, they can wort-why hto— doctor. they, i mean, they can work-way into other- work their way into other ththge.— work their way into other things-also- work their way into other things.-also i- work their way into other things. also i mean, just at things. but also i mean, just at the very— things. but also i mean, just at the very hoeto— things. but also i mean, just at the very basic level, let's take a the very basic level, let's take o-woht— the very basic level, let's take o-woht o—

the very basic level, let's take a-want a doctor- the very basic level, let's take a want a doctor who a gp. i want a doctor who understands— a gp. i want a doctor who understands and is up to date wtth— understands and is up to date wtth ott— understands and is up to date wtth oh the— understands and is up to date with all the literature. has the momhg— with all the literature. has the training-reading— with all the literature. has the training reading academic training in reading academic oooete— training in reading academic oooetelthey— training in reading academic papers they know . do you know papers so they know. do you know what— papers so they know. do you know whot the— papers so they know. do you know what the difference— papers so they know. do you know what the difference is that tttteteht— what the difference is that different medications will do the.— different medications will do thte—ewootty- different medications will do this. _exactly the i this. and that's exactly the answer-exactly - this. and that's exactly the answer exactly the that's answer is exactly the that's what— answer is exactly the that's whotlte. — answer is exactly the that's whotlte. tt-e— answer is exactly the that's what is. it's cheap and it's what it is. it's cheap and it's a what it is. it's cheap and it's o gutot— what it is. it's cheap and it's o gutow hto.— what it is. it's cheap and it's a quick fix. and— what it is. it's cheap and it's a quick fix. and amanda pritchard,_ a quick fix. and amanda pritchard, the— a quick fix. and amanda pritchard, the head of the nhs, eute— pritchard, the head of the nhs, eott-uttoot- pritchard, the head of the nhs, said-radical new- said that this radical new approach— said that this radical new approach-see- said that this radical new approach see tens of approach could see tens of thoueohte— approach could see tens of thousands school leavers thousands of school leavers heoomthg— thousands of school leavers becoming doctors and nurses or other—oue- becoming doctors and nurses or other—care roles- becoming doctors and nurses or other—care roles . l becoming doctors and nurses or other—care roles. ii other key health care roles. i you tet— other key health care roles. i mean, you ask yourself- other key health care roles. i mean, you ask yourself ,- other key health care roles. i mean, you ask yourself, it said mad people , i'm a mad person. mad people, i'm a mad person. i have to ask themselves, are they mad or is the rest of the world mad or is the rest of the world mad ? yeah. i mean, i now do mad? yeah. i mean, i now do believe actually it's rather a comfort to me that it's the rest of the world that's mad. not just i think that to- 3 i“yet3 not just i think that to david, tet-e— just i think that to david, tet-e tott— just i think that to david, let's talk about energy, because it let's talk about energy, because tt woutt— let's talk about energy, because tt woutt oooeot— let's talk about energy, because it would appeal to— let's talk about energy, because it would appeal to me if i was at eohoot— it would appeal to me if i was at eohoot. t— it would appeal to me if i was at school, i would— it would appeal to me if i was at school, i would think, i tom-t— at school, i would think, i don't think— at school, i would think, i don't think i'm- at school, i would think, i don't think i'm smart enough to be don't think i'm smart enough to he o— don't think i'm smart enough to he a doctor.— don't think i'm smart enough to be a doctor, but— don't think i'm smart enough to be a doctor, but i— don't think i'm smart enough to be a doctor, but i could learn on be a doctor, but i could learn oh-omt— be a doctor, but i could learn oh-oht pick- be a doctor, but i could learn on-and pick it- be a doctor, but i could learn on-and pick it up- be a doctor, but i could learn on and pick it up if on the job and pick it up if someone showing me how to on the job and pick it up if- someone-showing me how to do someone was showing me how to do it, someone was showing me how to do to wou— someone was showing me how to do to you mow.— someone was showing me how to do to you know t— someone was showing me how to do it, you know, i mean,— someone was showing me how to do it, you know, i mean, i— someone was showing me how to do it, you know, i mean, i can see it, you know, i mean, i can see to out— it, you know, i mean, i can see it, but actually— it, you know, i mean, i can see it, but actually the— it, you know, i mean, i can see it, but actually the other side of it, but actually the other side

ot the— it, but actually the other side ot the wheat.— it, but actually the other side of the appeal, is— it, but actually the other side of the appeal, is that something wtt— of the appeal, is that something wtth—tom.- of the appeal, is that something will—yeah. and- of the appeal, is that somethingi will—yeah. and badly. will go wrong. yeah. and badly. those poor are probably those poor kids are probably going be the forefront going to be the forefront of that. really that. and that's really when things medicine, things go wrong in medicine, they wrong. can we they really go wrong. can we talk about energy— they really go wrong. can we. talk about energy-because talk about energy bills? because we've been-that— talk about energy bills? because we've been that once the we've been told that once the eohhg— we've been told that once the eohhg-tt-e— we've been told that once the eohhg-tt-e ott- we've been told that once the spring it's all over and spring comes, it's all over and ewetyththg— spring comes, it's all over and everything-back- spring comes, it's all over and everything back to everything will be back to omot— everything will be back to normal.-news- everything will be back to- normal. - news yesterday, normal. but the news yesterday, hoot.— normal. but the news yesterday, howtotlthot— normal. but the news yesterday, david,.that these _ normal. but the news yesterday, david, that these bills are david, is that these bills are uhtttety— david, is that these bills are unlikely-below- david, is that these bills are unlikely below two grand unlikely to fall below two grand for unlikely to fall below two grand tot-yeoe— unlikely to fall below two grand tot-yeot-oht- for another year or so, and they-te— for another year or so, and they-we ttwety— for another year or so, and they're likely to - for another year or so, and they're likely to go on up heoouee— they're likely to go on up because of— they're likely to go on up because of the- they're likely to go on up because of the problem gas because of the problem with gas and because of the problem with gas omot ttueeto— because of the problem with gas and russia and— because of the problem with gas and russia and i— because of the problem with gas and russia and i think that thee-e— and russia and i think that there-e ho— and russia and i think that there's no there's no doubt ohout— there's no there's no doubt ohout tt— there's no there's no doubt about it that— there's no there's no doubt about it that energy bills are ohoottmg— about it that energy bills are ohootthg o— about it that energy bills are crippling a whole lot of decent . hottwotwthg— crippling a whole lot of decent , hardworking british families . , hardworking british families. amu— , hardworking british families. amu thoee-e— , hardworking british families. and there's no— , hardworking british families. and there's no reason- , hardworking british families. and there's no reason to- , hardworking british families. and there's no reason to think that's going to stop any time soon. and that's what the telegraph is saying online. and no doubt it'll find its way into the main paper shortly . okay. the main paper shortly. okay. right. we're going— the main paper shortly. okay. right. we're going to- “ okay. right. we're going to leave it there— right. we're going to leave it there too— right. we're going to leave it there for now.— right. we're going to leave it there for now. david and emma, thoht— there for now. david and emma, thank you— there for now. david and emma, thank you too— there for now. david and emma, thank you for that— there for now. david and emma, thank you for that impassioned tehote— thank you for that impassioned debate through— thank you for that impassioned debate through the papers. we'll howe— debate through the papers. we'll have more from _ debate through the papers. we'll have more from them after about hott— have more from them after about hott-eeweh. — have more from them after about half-seven. okay.- half past seven. okay. meanwhile, we're going to talk about mayoral task contest

about the mayoral task contest in london and the campaigner , in london and the campaigner, the fair fuel campaigner howard cox has announced he will take on the existing mayor, sadiq khan, when the election happens. yes, and lots of people have heeh— yes, and lots of people have heem ttythg— yes, and lots of people have heem ttythg to— yes, and lots of people have been trying to get into politics for been trying to get into politics to ee— been trying to get into politics for some time,— been trying to get into politics for some time, mainly because of his for some time, mainly because of hte wtewe— for some time, mainly because of hte om— for some time, mainly because of his views on this. _ for some time, mainly because of his views on this. he's opposed to the— his views on this. he's opposed to the controversial clean air uttz— to the controversial clean air uttz charge.— to the controversial clean air ulez charge. so— to the controversial clean air ulez charge. so let's speak to the— ulez charge. so let's speak to the mom— ulez charge. so let's speak to the man himself.— ulez charge. so let's speak to the man himself. good morning to you.— the man himself. good morning to you. hue-we— the man himself. good morning to you. we-we oewet— the man himself. good morning to you. we've asked you a few times in you. we've asked you a few times to the— you. we've asked you a few times to the poet— you. we've asked you a few times in the past whether— you. we've asked you a few times in the past whether or not you gothg— in the past whether or not you gothg to— in the past whether or not you were going to get— in the past whether or not you were going to get into politics oho— were going to get into politics omot the— were going to get into politics omot the hewe— were going to get into politics and the news is— were going to get into politics and the news is out . “tit: and the news is out. yes. thank you.— and the news is out. yes. thank you. good morning to both of you. good morning to both of you. it's nice to be on the show. yeah, it's not been an easy decision. 13 years fighting to keep taxation low. quite successfully. but in the process of doing that, i've built up a very big following and i can't ignore the requests . very nice. ignore the requests. very nice. and i feel very , you know, and i feel very, you know, humble about this. but they've asked me to stand against sadiq khan, the wrecking ball mayor of

london, against him on simply that he charges you £12, 50 to get in and out of london in your car, which may be very inconvenient. it may be very ooetty— inconvenient. it may be very ooetty. hut— inconvenient. it may be very ooetty. hut o— inconvenient. it may be very costly. but a lot— inconvenient. it may be very costly. but a lot of- i“ ti“ it may be very costly. but a lot of people, wowed— costly. but a lot of people, howard, would _ costly. but a lot of people, howard, would say, well, he's momhg— howard, would say, well, he's mottmg the— howard, would say, well, he's making the air— howard, would say, well, he's making the air fresher, cleaner to theme— making the air fresher, cleaner to hteothe .— making the air fresher, cleaner to breathe . and— making the air fresher, cleaner to breathe . and there's the to breathe. and there's the thtmg— to breathe. and there's the ththg . — to breathe. and there's the ththg . wo— to breathe. and there's the thing . no, he's- to breathe. and there's the thing . \tit to breathe. and there's the thing. \tit i thing. no, he's not, because he's owned data transport for london have come out with a report that said expanding the ulez to the m25, to the whole of greater london will not make any demonstrable difference to the air we breathe. and it's not just that he's actually admitted that he's trying to fill up his very big deficit that he's built up in his mismanagement of london, and the only way he can do it an easy way of doing it, is the good old cash cow driver. and that's what most politicians see. drivers as. and you know, i've voted tory for 50 years and it's pains me to say that i can't see them beating khan and

i know that the anti khan vote is strong and i'm going to try and rally around as many of the opposition to khan to try and back me to become mayor but howard, as mayor, you- i i but howard, as mayor, you wouldn't huet— howard, as mayor, you wouldn't tuet he— howard, as mayor, you wouldn't tuet he teotthg— howard, as mayor, you wouldn't just be dealing with the issue of just be dealing with the issue ot uttz— just be dealing with the issue ot uttz .— just be dealing with the issue ot uttz . you— just be dealing with the issue of ulez , you would have a broad of ulez, you would have a broad homoto— of ulez, you would have a broad portfolio, including— of ulez, you would have a broad portfolio, including things like the meet— portfolio, including things like the arrests over— portfolio, including things like the arrests over the coronation weetemot— the arrests over the coronation weekend. people— the arrests over the coronation weekend. people will be interested— weekend. people will be interested to— weekend. people will be interested to know your views wheh— interested to know your views wheh tt— interested to know your views wheh tt omee— interested to know your views when it comes to— interested to know your views when it comes to things like that— when it comes to things like that oe— when it comes to things like that as well— when it comes to things like that as well . _ when it comes to things like that as well . kittie. that as well. well, obviously, i'm building up a manifesto, but the three big things for me at the three big things for me at the moment is to scrap ulez cut crime, and that means more visible policing, more bobbies on the beat type thing. and particularly very making things safer for particularly women and walking home at night to the station , etcetera. these are the station, etcetera. these are the sorts of things crime has gone rocketed under sadiq khan's tenure . we see there's 150 tenure. we see there's 150 teenagers have died in since he started , of course, fighting started, of course, fighting with knife crime, etcetera . so with knife crime, etcetera. so what you're absolutely right to ask that question. i'm doing this with a heavy heart, but i'm

committed to this. i've been around block a long time and around the block a long time and i know a lot about a lot of things. and one of the things is my daughter, for example, can't things. and one of the things is my livesiter, for example, can't things. and one of the things is my lives in r, for example, can't things. and one of the things is my lives in london,imple, can't things. and one of the things is my lives in london, can't, can't things. and one of the things is my lives in london, can't find 't she lives in london, can't find a because she can't a house to buy because she can't afford it. so i'm looking at social housing on brownfield sites and reducing planning social housing on brownfield sites aretcetera.ig planning social housing on brownfield sites aretcetera. alltlanning social housing on brownfield sites aretcetera. all those|g issues, etcetera. all those sorts of things. i'm very up to speed from speed exactly what's needed from the say , you've the mayor dare i say, you've beenin the mayor dare i say, you've been in politics five minutes and you've my question , and you've dodged my question, which your view on which was, what's your view on the arrests during the coronation weekend? sadiq khan has coronation weekend? sadiq khan hoe come— coronation weekend? sadiq khan hoe out— coronation weekend? sadiq khan has come out saying— coronation weekend? sadiq khan has come out saying they- “ 37 sadiq khan has come out saying they were outeoueg — has come out saying they were outeoueg lyou— has come out saying they were outrageous. you agree or outrageous. do you agree or degree?— outrageous. do you agree or tteogteee wo— outrageous. do you agree or tteogteee to t— outrageous. do you agree or disagree? no i disagree. “tit: disagree? no i disagree. yes, i ooh-t— disagree? no i disagree. yes, i ooh-t thtmw— disagree? no i disagree. yes, i don't think they— disagree? no i disagree. yes, i don't think they are outrageous. these people were actually ruining a day for the mass majority wanted to go and see. and these people that actually protest what they should be doing is what i've done for 13 years. you go through the objective process of trying to convince government, stand convince the government, stand for set up a party, for politics, set up a party, all those sorts of things. these people in minority, people are in the minority, but they've got a massive vocal voice. and do not condemn the voice. and i do not condemn the

police. did the police. i think they did the right okay and they're in right thing. okay and they're in the mthohty. — right thing. okay and they're in the minority. you— right thing. okay and they're in the minority. you would- ” g“ “g and they're in the minority. you would be etohtthg— the minority. you would be etohttmg oe— the minority. you would be standing as an— the minority. you would be standing as an independent, howowt— standing as an independent, howowt euo.— standing as an independent, howard said, no, i'm standing through— howard said, no, i'm standing through reform— howard said, no, i'm standing through reform uk party as an thteoehteht. — through reform uk party as an independent. i— through reform uk party as an independent. i: “ g 3 independent. i couldn't afford to do it. it's a huge cost. even the deposit is £10,000. reform uk have been a close ally of fairfield , uk over the years and fairfield, uk over the years and they're one of the few parties that actually are very close to what fairfield, uk wants and what fairfield, uk wants and what i want. so with a heavy heart i've decided to move away from working with the tories and now work with reform uk. okay, well thanks for okay, well thanks for announcing your oohtttooy— well thanks for announcing your candidacy with— well thanks for announcing your candidacy with us— well thanks for announcing your candidacy with us today. much oooteototet— candidacy with us today. much oooteototet .— candidacy with us today. much appreciated . that's howard cox appreciated. that's howard cox mom— appreciated. that's howard cox ttom ttetotm— appreciated. that's howard cox from reform uk— appreciated. that's howard cox from reform uk and he is etohtthg— from reform uk and he is standing for— from reform uk and he is standing for mayor of london. huet— standing for mayor of london. tuet eet— standing for mayor of london. tuet oew you— standing for mayor of london. tuet oew you very— standing for mayor of london. just ask you very quickly about ahttew— just ask you very quickly about andrew bridgen_ just ask you very quickly about andrew bridgen being welcomed into andrew bridgen being welcomed hto the— andrew bridgen being welcomed hto the potty— andrew bridgen being welcomed into the party yesterday . into the party yesterday. i know it's into the party yesterday. i know he on— into the party yesterday. i know it's an interesting news line . it's an interesting news line. do you welcome him into the party? i've always been expelled on his holocaust views on his holocaust holocaust views . , i understand he's . yeah, well, i understand he's joining reclaim, isn't he? i think. or something like me. well, go. we'll move

well, there we go. we'll move on. muddled them up. i don't know— on. muddled them up. i don't know. really don't have a view know. i really don't have a view over him. i'm fine. i'm sorry. thank you very much. okay. there— thank you very much. okay. there we— thank you very much. okay. there we go. — thank you very much. okay. there we go. we— thank you very much. there we go. we have sort of ttme— there we go. we have sort of ttme tweet.— there we go. we have sort of time indeed. lucky to get aidan woetwem— time indeed. lucky to get aidan woewem .— time indeed. lucky to get aidan mcgivern . who— time indeed. lucky to get aidan mcgivern . who would time? mcgivern. who would waste time? hoyuoh— mcgivern. who would waste time? mayhem-wo— mcgivern. who would waste time? hoyuoh-wo go— mcgivern. who would waste time? hoyuoh-wo go .— mcgivern. who would waste time? hayden-we go . hello.- mcgivern. who would waste time? 3“ git hello. very hayden, off we go. hello. very good momhg— hayden, off we go. hello. very good morning to— hayden, off we go. hello. very good morning to you.- 3“ o77 git hello. very good morning to you. i'm aidan woetwem— good morning to you. i'm aidan woewem tom— good morning to you. i'm aidan mcgivern ian with— good morning to you. i'm aidan mcgivern ian with the latest gb hewe— mcgivern ian with the latest gb news forecast _ mcgivern ian with the latest gb news forecast from the met htttoe. — news forecast from the met office. some— news forecast from the met office. “ "g news forecast from the met office. some sunny spells, especially in the east. this morning, but it's going to turn increasingly cloudy from the west with showers starting west with heavy showers starting once again. now those showers are already with us in the west because we've got low pressure feeding an occluded front in further east. yesterday's heavy downpours have cleared, but we've got more on the way for the rest of today. so cloudier conditions in the west slowly making their way eastwards and then showers just about possible anywhere into the afternoon , but anywhere into the afternoon, but particularly inland, particularly inland, particularly for central and eastern parts of england into central scotland. showers central scotland. these showers where they do occur will be very lively . me again, some thunder ,

lively. me again, some thunder, some hail in places and they'll be slow moving. not everyone will catch a shower in between the showers, especially around coast. there'll be some sunshine and will reach the and temperatures will reach the mid high drier mid to high teens as drier towards far north of towards the far north of scotland. but here there's lots of cloud and mist and that's of low cloud and mist and that's certainly affecting and certainly affecting eastern and northern scotland during wednesday night. elsewhere, some clear spells, but further showery rain will affect northern ireland, western scotland, western parts of england and wales. some more persistent rain possible in some spots northern ireland. spots across northern ireland. temperatures again then dipping to around the mid to high single figures, 10 or 11 in 1 or 2 spots, but a generally cloudy start to thursday, particularly towards the west. the cloud and the showery rain will once again move east through the day and by the afternoon it's a mix of sunny spells and showers. once again, the showers will be hit and miss. they're not going to affect everyone in and especially around coast . there especially around coast. there will be some sunshine in between. reaching between. temperatures reaching 17, perhaps celsius. so 17, perhaps 18 celsius. so a slight cooling trend later this

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social media platform. truth sootot to— social media platform. truth social to deny— social media platform. truth social to deny he— social media platform. truth social to deny he even knew carroll. i have absolutely no idea who this woman is. the verdict is a disgrace ,- idea who this woman is. the verdict is a disgrace , a- verdict is a disgrace, a continuation- verdict is a disgrace, a continuation of the greatest wttoh— continuation of the greatest wttoh hunt— continuation of the greatest witch hunt of— continuation of the greatest witch hunt of all time . wit witch hunt of all time. no, we hou— witch hunt of all time. no, we hot to— witch hunt of all time. no, we hot to very— witch hunt of all time. no, we had a very interesting person on the program earlier this morning , gloria aldridge, who is an attorney , and she speaks she attorney, and she speaks she shoots from the hip on all of this. and she told us that trump's decision not to testify does hurt his chances of a better outcome . well, it better outcome. well, it tetthttety— better outcome. well, it definitely is- better outcome. well, it definitely is a- ” gitit well, it definitely is a victory for e! reu— definitely is a victory for e! jean carroll— definitely is a victory for e! jean carroll .— definitely is a victory for e! jean carroll . and she alleged jean carroll. and she alleged thu— jean carroll. and she alleged that ehe— jean carroll. and she alleged that she was— jean carroll. and she alleged that she was raped. and even though— that she was raped. and even though the— that she was raped. and even though the guy— that she was raped. and even though the jury did not find in the— though the jury did not find in thte etot— though the jury did not find in this civil lawsuit— though the jury did not find in this civil lawsuit that she was in this civil lawsuit that she was to toot. — this civil lawsuit that she was to toot. outeu— this civil lawsuit that she was in fact, raped, instead finding thu— in fact, raped, instead finding that ehe— in fact, raped, instead finding that ehe we— in fact, raped, instead finding that she was sexually abused , that she was sexually abused, ueet. — that she was sexually abused, ueet. they— that she was sexually abused, used. they also— that she was sexually abused, used. they also did find that ehe— used. they also did find that ehe we— used. they also did find that she was defamed and they found in she was defamed and they found to mow— she was defamed and they found to tuou ot— she was defamed and they found in favour of her— she was defamed and they found in favour of her to— she was defamed and they found in favour of her to the extent of in favour of her to the extent oh oh— in favour of her to the extent of $5 million- in favour of her to the extent of $5 million in— in favour of her to the extent of $5 million in damages. and ehe— of $5 million in damages. and ehe we— of $5 million in damages. and she was certainly— of $5 million in damages. and she was certainly helped by that access hollywood _ she was certainly helped by that access hollywood tape, which was

otoyet — access hollywood tape, which was otoyet tot— access hollywood tape, which was otoyet tow the— access hollywood tape, which was otoyet tow the guy— access hollywood tape, which was played for the jury and played for played for the jury and played tot hohut— played for the jury and played for donald trump in his deposition— for donald trump in his deposition .— for donald trump in his deposition . in his deposition deposition. in his deposition teettmohy— deposition. in his deposition testimony under oath before the thu— testimony under oath before the that .— testimony under oath before the that . aho— testimony under oath before the that . and he— testimony under oath before the trial . and he was— testimony under oath before the trial . and he was asked about trial. and he was asked about thu— trial. and he was asked about that hy— trial. and he was asked about that hy ate— trial. and he was asked about that by ms carroll's attorney oho— that by ms carroll's attorney out he— that by ms carroll's attorney and he stood— that by ms carroll's attorney and he stood his— that by ms carroll's attorney and he stood his ground on the aoeee— and he stood his ground on the access hollywood— and he stood his ground on the access hollywood tape and didn't try to— access hollywood tape and didn't try to get— access hollywood tape and didn't try to get out— access hollywood tape and didn't try to get out from _ access hollywood tape and didn't try to get out from under it hoeet— try to get out from under it based hinckley_ try to get out from under it based hinckley affirmed that he hettewet— based hinckley affirmed that he believed that— based hinckley affirmed that he believed that if- based hinckley affirmed that he believed that if you're a star heoheu— believed that if you're a star heohet. you— believed that if you're a star depher, you know, you can grab a hy— depher, you know, you can grab a hy het— depher, you know, you can grab a woman by her genital area. and of woman by her genital area. and oh he— woman by her genital area. and of course, he used— woman by her genital area. and of course, he used a pejorative tetm — of course, he used a pejorative tetm tot— of course, he used a pejorative tetm tot thu— of course, he used a pejorative term for that .— of course, he used a pejorative term for that . so— of course, he used a pejorative term for that . so he indicated , term for that. so he indicated, yes,— term for that. so he indicated, yee. hete— term for that. so he indicated, yee. me o— term for that. so he indicated, yee. me o etu— term for that. so he indicated, yes, he's a star and i don't ththt— yes, he's a star and i don't ththt thu— yes, he's a star and i don't think that helped him with the guy.— think that helped him with the ruy. aho— think that helped him with the ruy. and then— think that helped him with the jury. and then he— think that helped him with the jury. and then he didn't testify in jury. and then he didn't testify to mout— jury. and then he didn't testify to mom ot— jury. and then he didn't testify in front of the— jury. and then he didn't testify in front of the jury, which he otoe-t— in front of the jury, which he ttth-t hue— in front of the jury, which he didn't have to— in front of the jury, which he didn't have to do, but that woutt— didn't have to do, but that would have— didn't have to do, but that would have been a complete tteoetet— would have been a complete tteoetet tt— would have been a complete disaster if he— would have been a complete disaster if he had done that, heoouee— disaster if he had done that, heoouee he— disaster if he had done that, because he can't— disaster if he had done that, because he can't help but lie. thot-e— because he can't help but lie. thot-e whet— because he can't help but lie. that's what he _ because he can't help but lie. that's what he does . kittie. that's what he does. well, romthg— that's what he does. well, rommg ue— that's what he does. well, joining us now is the american political commentator, steve gill. good to see you, steve. or

see you in a second. he's coming . good morning, steve. listen, i believe that the sort of maga make america great again wing of the republican party makes up about a third of it. they won't be bothered by this finding, but what about the rest of the party? will this hurt his chances of a nomination or indeed of winning the presidency again ? i don't think it hurts again? i don't think it hurts his nomination— ege “7 i don't think it hurts his nomination because, as you meuttoueh— his nomination because, as you mehttohet. the— his nomination because, as you mentioned, the make america eeot— mentioned, the make america ueu agoth— mentioned, the make america great again portion of the tteouhttooh— great again portion of the republican primary is soledar in his republican primary is soledar in hte twou.— republican primary is soledar in hte tuou. t— republican primary is soledar in his favour. i think— republican primary is soledar in his favour. i think the other ogothet— his favour. i think the other case against him in new york thu— case against him in new york that te— case against him in new york that te euoh— case against him in new york that is such a— case against him in new york that is such a persecution witch hunt— that is such a persecution witch huht ohout— that is such a persecution witch hunt about documents and teoottthg— hunt about documents and recording documents by a outeu— recording documents by a partisan depher and a partisan judge— partisan depher and a partisan rutge th— partisan depher and a partisan judge in manhattan that's oueoty— judge in manhattan that's already boosted his primary eteottoh— already boosted his primary election and— already boosted his primary election and his general eteottoh— election and his general election numbers. he's gotten his election numbers. he's gotten hte hott— election numbers. he's gotten his poll numbers— election numbers. he's gotten his poll numbers gotten a bump. the— his poll numbers gotten a bump. thte oue— his poll numbers gotten a bump. thte t— his poll numbers gotten a bump. this one, i think— his poll numbers gotten a bump. this one, i think does have a timeout— this one, i think does have a different different result, otthough— different different result, although the _ different different result, although the result was a bit heue.— although the result was a bit htzute. oe— although the result was a bit bizarre, as allred pointed bizarre, as ms allred pointed out— bizarre, as ms allred pointed out oh— bizarre, as ms allred pointed out on one hand,— bizarre, as ms allred pointed out on one hand, the jury found thu— out on one hand, the jury found that thu— out on one hand, the jury found that that ehe— out on one hand, the jury found that that she was— out on one hand, the jury found that that she was raped, that that she was not raped, _eeehe— that that she was not raped,

even she specifically even though she specifically ototmet— even though she specifically claimed she— even though she specifically claimed she was raped and then togget— claimed she was raped and then togget homoto— claimed she was raped and then tagged donald trump with defamation— tagged donald trump with defamation funds and penalised him defamation funds and penalised htm tot— defamation funds and penalised htm tot thu— defamation funds and penalised him for that for— defamation funds and penalised him for that for saying he ttth-t— him for that for saying he ttth-t rape— him for that for saying he didn't rape her. so the jury eut— didn't rape her. so the jury euo ehe— didn't rape her. so the jury said she didn't— didn't rape her. so the jury said she didn't get raped, but gothg— said she didn't get raped, but gothg to— said she didn't get raped, but we're going to charge donald humo— we're going to charge donald ttumo tot— we're going to charge donald trump for saying she didn't get raped— trump for saying she didn't get raped .— trump for saying she didn't get raped . so— trump for saying she didn't get tooet . so he— trump for saying she didn't get raped . so it's little bit of a raped. so it's a little bit of a oteoue— raped. so it's a little bit of a bizarre result,— raped. so it's a little bit of a bizarre result,-do- raped. so it's a little bit of a bizarre result, do think bizarre result, but i do think it bizarre result, but i do think tt hute— bizarre result, but i do think tt hute htm— bizarre result, but i do think it hurts him in— bizarre result, but i do think it hurts him in the general eteottoh— it hurts him in the general election because he's already weet— election because he's already- weet—wotete weak with suburban women voters omohg— weak with suburban women voters omohg-the— weak with suburban women voters among the demographic among one of the demographic acas.— among one of the demographic acas-t— among one of the demographic acas-t ooh-t— among one of the demographic acas.-i don't-this. acas. and i don't think this here— acas. and i don't think this hetoe-thete. — acas. and i don't think this helps-there. it- acas. and i don't think this helps there. it may not hurt helps him there. it may not hurt htm— helps him there. it may not hurt htm houthty— helps him there. it may not hurt him horribly, but— helps him there. it may not hurt him horribly, but he was already tothg— him horribly, but he was already doing—suburban- doing poorly with suburban. womem—thte women. and i don't think this here— women. and i don't think this hetoe-ot— women. and i don't think this hetoe-ot ott- women. and i don't think this hetoe-ot ut. - helps him there at all. stoohom— helps him there at all. stoohoh. why— helps him there at all. stephen, why why- helps him there at all. stephen, why why is he so strong with his own woman then? his wife? i mean, we stand this would finish a politics lesson in the uk. this would just absolutely finish. there's a number of other things the famous tape where he described grabbing a woman that would have finished any politician in the uk . but so he goes on but i sit uk. but so he goes on but i sit here and i just genuinely scratch my head . why does scratch my head. why does melania stay with him ? you know,

melania stay with him? you know, i think, first of all, she's very loyal and she knows him better than sort of the media presentation of who is . it is presentation of who he is. it is interesting that that— interesting that that access hottywoot— interesting that that access hollywood tape was allowed to be otoyet — hollywood tape was allowed to be otoyet tot— hollywood tape was allowed to be otoyet tow the— hollywood tape was allowed to be otoyet tow the guy— hollywood tape was allowed to be played for the jury and that other— played for the jury and that other-testifying- played for the jury and that other-testifying he other women testifying that he had other women testifying that he hot hot— other women testifying that he had had treated— other women testifying that he had had treated them roughly in some cases. that's— had had treated them roughly in some cases. that's the kind of etutt— some cases. that's the kind of etutt thu— some cases. that's the kind of stuff that normally doesn't get oteeehtet— stuff that normally doesn't get presented before _ stuff that normally doesn't get presented before a jury. and thu— presented before a jury. and that may— presented before a jury. and thu moy gwe— presented before a jury. and that may give an avenue for that may give him an avenue for an that may give him an avenue for u oooeot— that may give him an avenue for an appeal because— that may give him an avenue for an appeal because the access hottywoot— an appeal because the access hollywood tape— an appeal because the access hollywood tape had nothing to do wtth—otee.- hollywood tape had nothing to do with _case. also, i with this particular case. also, in with this particular case. also, th the— with this particular case. also, to thte otee— with this particular case. also, in this case, you— with this particular case. also, in this case, you didn't have to prove— in this case, you didn't have to poet-— in this case, you didn't have to prove-a reasonable- in this case, you didn't have to prove a reasonable doubt prove beyond a reasonable doubt like prove beyond a reasonable doubt the you— prove beyond a reasonable doubt the you to— prove beyond a reasonable doubt the you to th— prove beyond a reasonable doubt the you to to o— prove beyond a reasonable doubt like you do in a criminal case. it like you do in a criminal case. tt we— like you do in a criminal case. tt o— like you do in a criminal case. it was a ponderance of the ewtehoet — it was a ponderance of the evidence. .you- it was a ponderance of the evidence. you just kind of evidence. so you just kind of hot— evidence. so you just kind of hot to— evidence. so you just kind of hot to get— evidence. so you just kind of had to get over— evidence. so you just kind of had to get over that halfway hutte. — had to get over that halfway hutte. hut— had to get over that halfway hurdle. but the _ had to get over that halfway hurdle. but the judge let in teetthg— hurdle. but the judge let in testing arnie— hurdle. but the judge let in testing arnie and that testing arnie and evidence that woutt— testing arnie and evidence that would-normally— testing arnie and evidence that would normally given, testing arnie and evidence that woul

weren't there. and in this case, it weren't there. and in this case, tt-o— weren't there. and in this case, tt-o oh— weren't there. and in this case, tt-o oto-ott— weren't there. and in this case, it-a 30-old case.- weren't there. and in this case, it a 30 old case. the it was a 30 year old case. the toty— it was a 30 year old case. the toty ooutth-t— it was a 30 year old case. the lady couldn't testify as to what year— lady couldn't testify as to what yeulhoooeueh— lady couldn't testify as to what year happened, much what year it happened, much less what mohth. — year it happened, much less what month. _witnesses. i month. there were no witnesses. there— month. there were no witnesses. there-ewttehoe- month. there were no witnesses. there _evidence .- month. there were no witnesses. there evidence . and yet there was no evidence. and yet oguh— there was no evidence. and yet oguh-o— there was no evidence. and yet oguh-o otty— there was no evidence. and yet oguh-o otty ot- again, in a in a city of manhattan,- again, in a in a city of manhattan, new york city, that este— manhattan, new york city, that ego. ot— manhattan, new york city, that ego. ot the — manhattan, new york city, that 85% of the people there voted oguhet— 85% of the people there voted oguhet htm. — 85% of the people there voted against him. not— 85% of the people there voted against him. not surprising that against him. not surprising that u ttheut— against him. not surprising that a liberal democrat judge and a ttheut— a liberal democrat judge and a liberal democrat— a liberal democrat judge and a liberal democrat base of jurors touht— liberal democrat base of jurors touht oguhet— liberal democrat base of jurors found against donald trump. agath— found against donald trump. aguh. teeotte— found against donald trump. again, despite the fact that they— again, despite the fact that they oer-eetee— again, despite the fact that they rejected her very specific ototm— they rejected her very specific ototm thu— they rejected her very specific claim that she— they rejected her very specific claim that she was raped and then— claim that she was raped and then etttt— claim that she was raped and then still found— claim that she was raped and then still found him guilty of tetomottoh— then still found him guilty of defamation for— then still found him guilty of defamation for saying the same ththg— defamation for saying the same ththg thu— defamation for saying the same ththg that the— defamation for saying the same thing that the jury did. she uou-t— thing that the jury did. she ttth-t get— thing that the jury did. she didn't get raped . didn't get raped. steve, steve, let didn't get raped. steve, steve, tot mo— didn't get raped. steve, steve, let me ask you man to man , does let me ask you man to man, does this change your opinion ? does this change your opinion? does this change your opinion? does this change your opinion? does this change your opinion of him? i mean, i'm speaking for a lot of blokes out there . i mean, of blokes out there. i mean, does this make you run to the hills? does this make you distance him or does this make you think, well, it's what you'd expect. it's donald, isn't it? yeah i'm not going to scratch my when t— yeah i'm not going to scratch my when t eoy— yeah i'm not going to scratch my nose when i say this,— t/tine“ i'm not going to scratch my nose when i say this, but i ththt— nose when i say this, but i ththt tt— nose when i say this, but i think it does- nose when i say this, but i think it does raise issues of hte— think it does raise issues of hte hte— think it does raise issues of his his attitude,— think it does raise issues of his his attitude, his blustery

tht— his his attitude, his blustery the ot— his his attitude, his blustery the ot .— his his attitude, his blustery ttht ot . you— his his attitude, his blustery kind of , you know, bull his his attitude, his blustery kind of, you know, bull in a chtho— kind of, you know, bull in a chtho ehoo— kind of, you know, bull in a china shop sort— kind of, you know, bull in a china shop sort of approach to huge— china shop sort of approach to ththge hoe— china shop sort of approach to things has done— china shop sort of approach to things has done damage to him. i met— things has done damage to him. i ththt tt-e— things has done damage to him. i ththt tt-e oe— things has done damage to him. i think it's one of— things has done damage to him. i think it's one of the— things has done damage to him. i think it's one of the reasons thu— think it's one of the reasons that republicans didn't fare hettet— that republicans didn't fare hettet th— that republicans didn't fare better in the— that republicans didn't fare better in the midterm elections . they— better in the midterm elections . they the— better in the midterm elections . they the he— better in the midterm elections . they like his policies. we atte— . they like his policies. we the he— . they like his policies. we like his policies.- . they like his policies. we like his policies. it's his oeteohutty— like his policies. it's his personality that causes trouble . aho— personality that causes trouble . aht oguh— personality that causes trouble .aht oguh. t— personality that causes trouble . and again, i don't think this here— . and again, i don't think this hetoe htm— . and again, i don't think this hetoe htm .— . and again, i don't think this hetoe htm . tt— . and again, i don't think this helps him . it may not hurt him helps him. it may not hurt him heoouee— helps him. it may not hurt him because among— helps him. it may not hurt him because among that base of temue— because among that base of temue-woe- because among that base of. female-was already female voters, he was already tuthg— female voters, he was already ththg-hut— female voters, he was already faring-but it's- faring poorly. but it's definitely- faring poorly. but it's definitely not going to give him a definitely not going to give him a hooet. — definitely not going to give him a hooet. aho— definitely not going to give him ohooet. aht t— definitely not going to give him a boost. and i think you're hght. — a boost. and i think you're hght. twen— a boost. and i think you're right. even among men, it makes you he— right. even among men, it makes you he o— right. even among men, it makes you he o ttttte— right. even among men, it makes you be a little squeamish about you be a little squeamiin about the you be a little squeamish about the behaviour— you be a little squeamish about the behaviour that— you be a little squeamish about the behaviour that he's exhibited- the behaviour that he's. exhibited _women, the behaviour that he's- exhibited-women, not exhibited towards women, not huet— exhibited towards women, not tuet—uthoughi exhibited towards women, not just say although exhibited towards women, not just say in although exhibited towards women, not just say in that although exhibited towards women, not just say in that accessigh will say in that access hottywoot— will say in that access hollywood tape, was saying hollywood tape, he was saying thu— hollywood tape, he was saying that-celebrities— hollywood tape, he was saying that celebrities have a lot that his celebrities have a lot mote-thu— that his celebrities have a lot more than women throw more sway than women throw themeetwee— more sway than women throw themselves-him. - more sway than women throw themselves him. it themselves at him. and it celebrities— themselves at him. and it celebrities and— themselves at him. and it celebrities and that's certainly true.— celebrities and that's certainly true. hut— celebrities and that's certainly true. hut mu— celebrities and that's certainly true. but man, it— celebrities and that's certainly true. but man, it was such a guteh— true. but man, it was such a guteh woy— true. but man, it was such a guteh woy to— true. but man, it was such a garish way to present it that i ththt— garish way to present it that i ththt thu— garish way to present it that i think that certainly carried wetght— think that certainly carried wetght wtth— think that certainly carried weight with the jury in this thu— weight with the jury in this case, that it— weight with the jury in this case, that it it— weight with the jury in this case, that it it shows an ottttute— case, that it it shows an attitude towards women that none of attitude towards women that none ot ue— attitude towards women that none ot ue ehoutt— attitude towards women that none of us should embrace. don't of us should embrace. i don't mow— of us should embrace. i don't know-access- of us should embrace. i don't know access hollywood know if the access hollywood case - stars threw- case said that stars threw themselves— case said that stars threw themselves- - case said that stars threw. themselves- imean, case said that stars threw- themselves- imean, the themselves at him. i mean, the transcripts says, i don't even wait. when you're a star, they

let you can do let you do it. you can do anything. grab by dot, anything. grab them by the dot, dot, you can do anything. dot, dot. you can do anything. i mean, look, i accept it. it makes you feel squeamish and i just feel sorry for the wing of the party, many the republican party, many of whom religious people, whom are very religious people, conservative people, know, conservative people, you know, morally have morally do gooders who have to contend with this man who is, quite frankly , whether you quite frankly, whether you accept ruling court accept the ruling of the court in just from a number in this case, just from a number of that happened in of things that have happened in his morally dubious. it's his past, morally dubious. it's unfortunate. you think? unfortunate. don't you think? it's the best they can come up with? yeah, and it harkens back to httt— with? yeah, and it harkens back to bill clinton— with? yeah, and it harkens back to bill clinton when— s7 yeah, and it harkens back to bill clinton when he was oteetteht— to bill clinton when he was president and— to bill clinton when he was president and the behaviour that he—he- president and the behaviour that he—he teet- he exhibited and yet he kept gettthg— he exhibited and yet he kept getting—despite. he exhibited and yet he kept getting despite it, getting re—elected despite it, you— getting re—elected despite it, you-oggteeetwe.- getting re—elected despite it, you aggressive, egregious you know, aggressive, egregious hehutou— you know, aggressive, egregious behaviour towards— you know, aggressive, egregious behaviour towards women and oeoote— behaviour towards women and oeootewoutt— behaviour towards women and people would ask, would you want him people would ask, would you want htm to— people would ask, would you want htm to he— people would ask, would you want htm to he-you— people would ask, would you want him to be your daughter's him to be your, your daughter's htgh— him to be your, your daughter's htgh-uthotoot- him to be your, your daughter's htgh-ohhotou e- him to be your, your daughter's high principal? and the high school principal? and the answer-course- high school principal? and the answer-course no.- high school principal? and the answer course no. and answer was, of course no. and i'd answer was, of course no. and t-t-eome— answer was, of course no. and t-t-eome ththg- answer was, of course no. and i'd same thing about i'd say the same thing about hohott— i'd say the same thing about hohott-wou- i'd say the same thing about donald you wouldn't want donald trump. you wouldn't want him donald trump. you wouldn't want htm to— donald trump. you wouldn't want htm tolyou— donald trump. you wouldn't want him to your daughter's high him to be your daughter's high eohoot—oeootel school principal. but people wtttthg— school principal. but people were willing look aside were willing to look that aside oho— were willing to look that aside out—heooueel were willing to look that aside. and—because of and re—elect clinton because of the eoomy— and re—elect clinton because of the economy and— and re—elect clinton because of the economy and they may be wtttthg— the economy and they may be wtttthg to— the economy and they may be willing to re—elect president humo— willing to re—elect president trump oguh— willing to re—elect president trump again over biden because of trump again over biden because ot the— trump again over biden because ot the us— trump again over biden because of the us economy— trump again over biden because of the us economy and the

tutuee— of the us economy and the tutuee ot— of the us economy and the failures of international ttotomooy— failures of international diplomacy and other failures. hu— diplomacy and other failures. hut hotter— diplomacy and other failures. our border is— diplomacy and other failures. our border is awash with illegal utehe— our border is awash with illegal utehe oouhhg— our border is awash with illegal aliens pouring across . it our border is awash with illegal aliens pouring across. it may be enough— aliens pouring across. it may be enough to— aliens pouring across. it may be enough to elect— aliens pouring across. it may be enough to elect him because of toothy.— enough to elect him because of oottoy. hut— enough to elect him because of oottoy. hut moh— enough to elect him because of policy, but man, you're exactly hght. — policy, but man, you're exactly hght. the— policy, but man, you're exactly right. the person— policy, but man, you're exactly right. the person albie stuff is a right. the person albie stuff is tough— right. the person albie stuff is o tough ott— right. the person albie stuff is a tough ottt to— right. the person albie stuff is a tough pill to swallow. just teeny.— a tough pill to swallow. just tthotty. you— a tough pill to swallow. just finally, you know— a tough pill to swallow. just finally, you know the comparisons with joe biden, sleepy joe, lots of people are saying, is he the best? the democrats can come up with? people also talking about the sort stuff surrounding sort of legal stuff surrounding his and sort of business his son and the sort of business deaungs his son and the sort of business dealings that were found his son and the sort of business derhisgs that were found his son and the sort of business derhis laptop. that were found his son and the sort of business derhis laptop. is at were found his son and the sort of business derhis laptop. is thatare found his son and the sort of business derhis laptop. is that alsoyund on his laptop. is that also a disappointment to the democrats that that's the best that they can up with ? well, can come up with? well, especially when - can come up with? well, especially when joe- i“ i i. s7 well, especially when joe biden this weet— especially when joe biden this week eut— especially when joe biden this week said-his— especially when joe biden this week said-his son- especially when joe biden this week said his son has done week said that his son has done hoththg— week said that his son has done nothtng wr.ong— week said that his son has done nothing wrong. and yet we have the tattoo— nothing wrong. and yet we have the laptop showing him cavorting wtth—.— the laptop showing him cavorting with_, underage- with prostitutes, underage oroetttutee— with prostitutes, underage prostitutes, drugs. it's prostitutes, using drugs. it's htzure— prostitutes, using drugs. it's bizarre depher— prostitutes, using drugs. it's bizarre depher that the theorem— bizarre depher that the president would let him travel around— president would let him travel uount the— president would let him travel around the world— president would let him travel around the world with him and at the ee— around the world with him and at the ttme— around the world with him and at the same time say— around the world with him and at the same time say he's done hoththg— the same time say he's done nothtng wong— the same time say he's done nothing wrong. he's the smartest t— nothing wrong. he's the smartest t know. — nothing wrong. he's the smartest t know. tt— nothing wrong. he's the smartest man i know. it makes you gueetton— man i know. it makes you question his— man i know. it makes you question his judgement on a whote— question his judgement on a whole-other- question his judgement on a whole other issues. whole lot of other issues. new. — whole lot of other issues. new. thoee— whole lot of other issues. well, those are— whole lot of other issues. well, those are allegations we should . biden may should stress. yeah. biden may

be the only guy who can beat trump, and trump the only trump, and trump may be the only guy who can beat biden. think guy who can beat biden. i think both parties can probably do both parties can can probably do better. why lot of better. and that's why a lot of folks would like to see ron desantis as the republican nominee to see nominee and would like to see anybody biden nominee the anybody but biden nominee on the democratic at this point, democratic side at this point, i think stuck with those two think we're stuck with those two going again in going head to head again in america well thanks for america in 2020. well thanks for shining that, steve. shining light on that, steve. very, very interesting comparisons there . steve gill's comparisons there. steve gill's an comparisons there. steve gill's on-oottttoot- an american political commentator. appreciate an american political— commentator. .appreciate your commentator. we appreciate your ttme.— commentator. we appreciate your ttme. eh— commentator. we appreciate your time, sir. thank— commentator. we appreciate your time, sir. thank you very much tnteet. — time, sir. thank you very much tnteet. wre— time, sir. thank you very much tnteet. the go— time, sir. thank you very much indeed. we go from american commentator— indeed. we go from american commentator-a— indeed. we go from american commentator a british commentator to a british commentator,— commentator to a british commentator, merali , commentator to a british- commentator,-merali , with commentator, leona merali, with us now. you know,— commentator, leona merali, with us now. you know, my friend , i us now. you know, my friend, i ooute— us now. you know, my friend, i ooutt not— us now. you know, my friend, i ooutt not ever— us now. you know, my friend, i could not ever imagine us ettttng— could not ever imagine us sitting discussing a british oottttoton— sitting discussing a british politician who _ sitting discussing a british politician who would be active, who— politician who would be active, who woutt— politician who would be active, who would continue would be ottowet— who would continue would be ottowet to— who would continue would be allowed to serve— who would continue would be allowed to serve or run for hume— allowed to serve or run for prime minister— allowed to serve or run for prime minister or mp again, who had conducted— prime minister or mp again, who had conducted himself in sort of eon— had conducted himself in sort of eon ot— had conducted himself in sort of some sort of sex.— had conducted himself in sort of some sort of sex. cruel, awful ottneee— some sort of sex. cruel, awful oddness that— some sort of sex. cruel, awful oddness that we're seeing with trump— oddness that we're seeing with trumo . — oddness that we're seeing with trumo . ween.— oddness that we're seeing with trumo . wooh. t— oddness that we're seeing with trump . t/tine“ “ i trump. yeah, i mean, it blows our minds as a uk audience and we look at these types of very

serious allegations against donald trump. i mean, look at what boris johnson was removed from downing for a couple from downing street for a couple of know, against of parties, you know, against lockdown rules. mean, when you lockdown rules. i mean, when you look that, is tame in look at that, that is tame in comparison to what's going in comparison to what's going on in america. it's just that big america. and it's just that big difference our different difference between our different political could political systems that could happen certainly can't happen there. it certainly can't happen there. it certainly can't happen talk, shall happen here. let's talk, shall ohout— happen here. let's talk, shall we, about the _ happen here. let's talk, shall we, about the illegal- “ “tifti; let's talk, shall we, about the illegal migration hut.— we, about the illegal migration httt. rte— we, about the illegal migration out he gotng— we, about the illegal migration bill. it's going through the totte— bill. it's going through the torte-totoy. - bill. it's going through the lords today. sevilla lords from today. sevilla braverman _ lords from today. sevilla braverman very concerned about it braverman very concerned about tt-woteret— braverman very concerned about it-watered down.- braverman very concerned about it-watered down. i- braverman very concerned about it watered down. i suppose it being watered down. i suppose eoeotttouty— it being watered down. i suppose specifically she'd— it being watered down. i suppose specifically she'd be worried ohout— specifically she'd be worried ohout her— specifically she'd be worried about her european court of humon— about her european court of human rights,— about her european court of human rights, section 39. she wonte— human rights, section 39. she wonte to— human rights, section 39. she wants to.able_ human rights, section 39. she wants to i able to _ human rights, section 39. she wants to able to overrule wants to be able to overrule thoee— wants to be able to overrule thoee rutgee.— wants to be able to overrule those judges. do— wants to be able to overrule those judges. do you think thot-e— those judges. do you think thot-e-to— those judges. do you think that's to happen? those judges. do you think- that's-to happen? i don't that's likely to happen? i don't thtnt— that's likely to happen? i don't thtnt-gotng— that's likely to happen? i don't thtnt-gotng to- think there's going to be overruled. lords aren't overruled. the lords aren't necessarily not their necessarily it's not in their capabilities to overrule legislation the legislation sent to them by the commons, they can do is commons, but what they can do is frustrate process potential frustrate the process potential albie the passing of that albie delay the passing of that legislation for up a year now legislation for up to a year now , given where we are in the political , a general political cycle, a general election potentially going to election is potentially going to be months away. so the be 12 to 18 months away. so the conservatives to get this conservatives want to get this legislation in play soon as legislation in play as soon as possible so they can point to

what they've done, what they've implemented actually, implemented and say, actually, we're done on we're getting the job done on immigration. trust us and we'll continue the job. yesterday we had continue the job. yesterday we hot ee— continue the job. yesterday we had news that— continue the job. yesterday we had news that the— continue the job. yesterday we had news that the king- titit“ yesterday we had news that the king and boris rohneon— had news that the king and boris rohneon hot— had news that the king and boris johnson had fallen— had news that the king and boris johnson had fallen out over the twonto— johnson had fallen out over the rwanda proposals.— johnson had fallen out over the rwanda proposals. and today the oooere— rwanda proposals. and today the oooere oe— rwanda proposals. and today the papers are talking— rwanda proposals. and today the papers are talking about the arohhtehoo— papers are talking about the archbishop of— papers are talking about the archbishop of canterbury in the totte— archbishop of canterbury in the lords objecting— archbishop of canterbury in the lords objecting to— archbishop of canterbury in the lords objecting to this bill. hoee— lords objecting to this bill. hoee thu— lords objecting to this bill. does that sort— lords objecting to this bill. does that sort of calm shadow the — does that sort of calm shadow over the home— does that sort of calm shadow over the home secretary's bill, do over the home secretary's bill, to you— over the home secretary's bill, to you thtnte— over the home secretary's bill, to you thtnte — over the home secretary's bill, do you think? i— over the home secretary's bill, do you think? “ over the home secretary's bill, do you think? i mean, i think for a lot of people they look at the king potentially. so we hear you that rwanda you being opposed to that rwanda deal we hear the archbishop of deal. we hear the archbishop of canterbury being this canterbury being opposed to this type of crackdown on illegal migration and i think for the government, it puts them a government, it puts them in a sticky position because ultimately potentially sticky position because ultiiargue potentially sticky position because ultiiargue they've potentially sticky position because ultiiargue they've got otentially sticky position because ultiiargue they've got the tially can argue they've got the mandate of the british people . mandate of the british people. they are the ones that have been elected to do this. and those that out in that are coming out in opposition it aren't elected. that are coming out in opp they're it aren't elected. that are coming out in opp they're influential.3lected. that are coming out in opp they're influential. yes,ad. yes they're influential. yes, they're figureheads, they're important figureheads, but the people that but they aren't the people that the voters entrusted to the voters have entrusted to deliver these types of policies. so i think the government can come quite strongly on come back quite strongly on that. ultimately, is that. but ultimately, it is a

tncky that. but ultimately, it is a tricky situation for them to be in when you've got these powerful voices coming against you. keir say it, you. keir starmer won't say it, out— you. keir starmer won't say it, hut woutt— you. keir starmer won't say it, hut woutt you— you. keir starmer won't say it, but would you say— you. keir starmer won't say it, but would you say it- keir starmer won't say it, but would you say it that you woutt— but would you say it that you woutt eee— but would you say it that you would see the— but would you say it that you would see the lib and would see the lib dems and tohou— would see the lib dems and labour holding— would see the lib dems and labour holding hands and walking town— labour holding hands and walking town-uetee — labour holding hands and walking town-uetee t— labour holding hands and walking down-aisle? i think- labour holding hands and walking down aisle? i down the aisle? i think it's a given . mean, at those given. i mean, look at those numbers the labour party. numbers with the labour party. arnie okay, i do local arnie okay, i do say local elections who collects elections are about who collects your . the national your bins. the national elections are about controls elections are about who controls the weapons. so there is elections are about who controls tidifference weapons. so there is elections are about who controls tidifference in apons. so there is elections are about who controls tidifference in who s. so there is a difference in who you're voting for. when we look at voting for. but when we look at the we look the the trajectory, we look at the polls. labour get over the polls. labour can't get over the line with a with a simple majority. it looks very, very difficult for them do so difficult for them to do so. so the lib dems seem like the natural but keir natural bedfellows, but keir starmer say starmer very reluctant to say yes , we'll entertain the idea of yes, we'll entertain the idea of a coalition because going into coalition lib dems coalition with the lib dems could mean the watering down or even the end of brexit. it could mean to the way we vote mean a change to the way we vote in country. proportional in this country. proportional representation option being introduced. big introduced. so some big fundamental constitutional issues could be raised if that coalition goes ahead leon . coalition goes ahead leon. thank you very much thank ykoery much indeed. thank you very much indeed. wett— thank you very much indeed. wett teue— thank you very much indeed. we'll leave it— thank you very much indeed. we'll leave it there. appreciate you— we'll leave it there. appreciate your ttme— we'll leave it there. appreciate

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pattison. you see, if i was an actor right , pattison. you see, if i was an actor right, could i play the part of a gay man is that you should be able to if you are an actor. but the question i suppose is should you not? could you? well we have a man oomtng— could you? well we have a man oomtng tn— could you? well we have a man oomtng tn who— could you? well we have a man coming in who will— could you? well we have a man coming in who will argue against etrught— coming in who will argue against etrotght oeoote— coming in who will argue against straight people playing gay rotee— straight people playing gay rotee . — straight people playing gay roles . your— straight people playing gay roles . your views- straight people playing gay roles . t/tit. ” .

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man whose own— cancer. yes 745 we'll speak to a man whose own cancer- ii “titer 745 we'll speak to a man whose own cancer stopped growtng— man whose own cancer stopped growtng ee— man whose own cancer stopped growing since giving up his vegetarianism _ growing since giving up his vegetarianism alongside his mettoot— vegetarianism alongside his medical treatment. then after eoe,— medical treatment. then after eoe, we— medical treatment. then after eoe, we ue— medical treatment. then after 8:00, we are speaking to mr wtget— 8:00, we are speaking to mr wtget ruoge— 8:00, we are speaking to mr nigel farage gb— 8:00, we are speaking to mr nigel farage gb news news oreeenter— nigel farage gb news news oreeenter. — nigel farage gb news news presenter. that's- nigel farage gb news news presenter. “ presenter. that's not him. that's donald trump. both of them? yeah . that's donald trump. both of them? yeah. there's that's donald trump. both of them? yeah . there's me, nigel them? yeah. there's me, nigel leading big donald into that big interview they had last week. so. so they're talking about the verdict on suella braverman man's warning to the house of lords , which he's issued over lords, which he's issued over the illegal migration bill. indeed so let us know your views this indeed so let us know your views thte momhg— indeed so let us know your views this morning. lots— indeed so let us know your views this morning. lots of— 3: so let us know your views this morning. lots of them have heeh— this morning. lots of them have heen oomtng— this morning. lots of them have been coming in.— this morning. lots of them have been coming in. we're not going to toot— been coming in. we're not going to toot ot— been coming in. we're not going to look at them— been coming in. we're not going to look at them right now, even though— to look at them right now, even though there-e— to look at them right now, even though there's loads, because got— though there's loads, because got u— though there's loads, because we've got a really good debate, but we've got a really good debate, hut wett— we've got a really good debate, but we'll find- we've got a really good debate, but we'll find a- we've got a really good debate, but we'll find a for them but we'll find a space for them in but we'll find a space for them tn o— but we'll find a space for them tn o mtnute— but we'll find a space for them tn o mtnute .— but we'll find a space for them in a minute. now,— but we'll find a space for them in a minute. now, a british actor— in a minute. now, a british actor known— in a minute. now, a british actor known for— in a minute. now, a british actor known for his role in a programme— actor known for his role in a programme called heartland, whtoh— programme called heartland, when t— programme called heartland, which i have— programme called heartland, which i have no— programme called heartland, which i have no idea what it is , which i have no idea what it is ryou— which i have no idea what it is . you hue— which i have no idea what it is . you hue no— which i have no idea what it is , you have no idea— which i have no idea what it is , you have no idea what it is etther— , you have no idea what it is etther . — , you have no idea what it is etther. wo— , you have no idea what it is either. no idea— , you have no idea what it is either. wit 3 , you have no idea what it is either . wit 3 i“ either. no idea what channel it's on netflix . i know that

it's on netflix. i know that he— it's on netflix. i know that he on— it's on netflix. i know that he on oe— it's on netflix. i know that it's on one point.- i “tit“ wii�*l x i know that it's on one point. okay so. wrou— it's on one point. okay so. when .— it's on one point. okay so. when . thte— it's on one point. okay so. now . thte guy— it's on one point. okay so. well , this guy has- it's on one point. okay so. well , this guy has sparked well, this guy has sparked a debate after saying a gay guy should play a gay guy , right? should play a gay guy, right? well, aiden moreno said straight toe— well, aiden moreno said straight toe ehoutt— well, aiden moreno said straight actors should step— well, aiden moreno said straight actors should step aside and let the tutor — actors should step aside and let the lgbtq+ community represent themeetwee— the lgbtq+ community represent themselves. but— the lgbtq+ community represent themselves. but is— the lgbtq+ community represent themselves. but is he right? ureth— themselves. but is he right? well, co—host_ themselves. but is he right? well, co—host of— themselves. but is he right? well, co—host of the bisexual hrunoh— well, co—host of the bisexual hrunoh .— well, co—host of the bisexual brunch , lewis— well, co—host of the bisexual brunch , lewis oakley, joins us brunch, lewis oakley, joins us in brunch, lewis oakley, joins us tn the— brunch, lewis oakley, joins us tn the etutto— brunch, lewis oakley, joins us in the studio and— brunch, lewis oakley, joins us in the studio and he thinks it's the.— in the studio and he thinks it's the. ne— in the studio and he thinks it's the. he otoy— in the studio and he thinks it's fine, it's okay for— in the studio and he thinks it's fine, it's okay for straight toe— fine, it's okay for straight toe to — fine, it's okay for straight actors to play— fine, it's okay for straight actors to play gay characters. atoonwhtto— actors to play gay characters. meanwhile, there's— actors to play gay characters. meanwhile, there's benjamin button with his glass of steaming up and he says the only gay actors should take on gay roles . but benjamin, the thing roles. but benjamin, the thing is, they're actors. they act a role to tell us why you're so pro a gay guy playing a gay guy. because i think it would be very naive to think that the only part of why a person gets a role is because of their ability to act. we know that there how much

they— act. we know that there how much they appear— act. we know that there how much they oooeu tn— act. we know that there how much they appear in terms— ei we know that there how much they appear in terms of a commercial— they appear in terms of a commercial value, how attractive they— commercial value, how attractive they ue— commercial value, how attractive they how— commercial value, how attractive they are, how much— commercial value, how attractive they are, how much the audience is they are, how much the audience te tomtttu— they are, how much the audience is familiar with- they are, how much the audience is familiar with their name. tote— is familiar with their name. tote ot— is familiar with their name. lots of things— is familiar with their name. lots of things play a role in how— lots of things play a role in how they— lots of things play a role in how they get— lots of things play a role in how they get roles . and the how they get roles. and the truth— how they get roles. and the truth te— how they get roles. and the truth is that— how they get roles. and the truth is that when it comes to gay— truth is that when it comes to guy etortee— truth is that when it comes to gay stories being— truth is that when it comes to gay stories being told, whether they-re— gay stories being told, whether they-re tn— gay stories being told, whether they're in films— gay stories being told, whether they're in films ,_ gay stories being told, whether they're in films , dramas, the they're in films, dramas, the overwhelming— they're in films, dramas, the overwhelming until very reoentty— overwhelming until very recently, they- overwhelming until very recently, they were played by heterosexual— recently, they were played by heterosexual actors . and i think heterosexual actors. and i think you— heterosexual actors. and i think you hue— heterosexual actors. and i think you hue to— heterosexual actors. and i think you have to ask— heterosexual actors. and i think you have to ask yourself why was that?— you have to ask yourself why was that? he— you have to ask yourself why was that? it's because— you have to ask yourself why was that? it's because they didn't thtnt— that? it's because they didn't thtnt thu— that? it's because they didn't thtnt that u— that? it's because they didn't think that a gay— that? it's because they didn't think that a gay star, a gay torto— think that a gay star, a gay actor, would— think that a gay star, a gay actor, would be— think that a gay star, a gay actor, would be commercially wtohte— actor, would be commercially wtohte tor— actor, would be commercially wtohte tor o— actor, would be commercially viable for a lot— actor, would be commercially viable for a lot of— actor, would be commercially viable for a lot of these shows. ant— viable for a lot of these shows. ant eo— viable for a lot of these shows. ant eo t— viable for a lot of these shows. and so i think— viable for a lot of these shows. and so i think that— viable for a lot of these shows. and so i think that when you're tetttng— and so i think that when you're telling stories— and so i think that when you're telling stories of— and so i think that when you're telling stories of lgbt people, thee.— telling stories of lgbt people, ttwee. toy— telling stories of lgbt people, ttwee. toy .— telling stories of lgbt people, lives, day , bisexual, lives, day, bisexual, transgender, etcetera , that they transgender, etcetera, that they ehoutt — transgender, etcetera, that they ehoutt he — transgender, etcetera, that they should be able— transgender, etcetera, that they should be able to— transgender, etcetera, that they should be able to tell their own etortee— should be able to tell their own stories because— should be able to tell their own stories because it— should be able to tell their own stories because it brings an outhentto— stories because it brings an authentic city— stories because it brings an authentic city and they often get tewer— authentic city and they often get fewer opportunities in other areas. benjamin— get fewer opportunities in other areas. “ t get fewer opportunities in other areas . “ t areas. benjamin does that not mean you're closing off the opportunity for them to play any straight roles in reverse ? no, straight roles in reverse? no, not really, because the- t3“ “ 7 no, not really, because the truth is that.— not really, because the truth is that you— not really, because the truth is that you know.— not really, because the truth is that, you know, there's no ehonoge— that, you know, there's no ehonoge ot— that, you know, there's no shortage of things that straight toe— shortage of things that straight toe get.— shortage of things that straight actors get, right.— shortage of things that straight actors get, right. but basically ttm— actors get, right. but basically t-m eoytng— actors get, right. but basically t-m eoytng thu— actors get, right. but basically i'm saying that when it comes to

tetttng— i'm saying that when it comes to tetttng etortee— i'm saying that when it comes to telling stories about a niche eoertenoe— telling stories about a niche experience of— telling stories about a niche experience of life, okay, so , experience of life, okay, so, you— experience of life, okay, so, you mow.— experience of life, okay, so, you know. he— experience of life, okay, so, you know, it's a— experience of life, okay, so, you know, it's a lot easier to know— you know, it's a lot easier to know whet— you know, it's a lot easier to know what it's— you know, it's a lot easier to know what it's like to be heterosexual. _ know what it's like to be heterosexual. we in the motortty— heterosexual. we in the majority, because that is what moet— majority, because that is what moetlou— majority, because that is what most-our society- majority, because that is what most our society is like. but most of our society is like. but when— most of our society is like. but when-hue— most of our society is like. but when-havelniche- most of our society is like. but when have niche experience when you have a niche experience of when you have a niche experience ot—thot-e- of the world, whether that's hetng— of the world, whether that's hetng-or— of the world, whether that's being or disabled gay, of the world, whether that's beingthat's or disabled gay, of the world, whether that's beingthat's a)r disabled gay, of the world, whether that's beingthat's a lotisabled gay, of the world, whether that's beingthat's a lot better! gay, of the world, whether that's beingthat's a lot better toldjay, of the world, whether that's beingthat's a lot better told by well that's a lot better told by someone who understands that . someone who understands that. ant— someone who understands that. ant t— someone who understands that. ant t thtnt— someone who understands that. and i think the- someone who understands that. and i think the truth is that if you— and i think the truth is that if you toot— and i think the truth is that if you toot ot— and i think the truth is that if you toot u tw— and i think the truth is that if you look at tv shows like it's a sin you look at tv shows like it's a etn ohout— you look at tv shows like it's a sin about-hiv— you look at tv shows like it's a sin about. hiv aids- you look at tv shows like it's a sin about hiv aids epidemic, sin about the hiv aids epidemic, thoee— sin about the hiv aids epidemic, thoee guy— sin about the hiv aids epidemic, thoee guy toe— sin about the hiv aids epidemic, those gay actors brought a power to that.— those gay actors brought a power to that thu— those gay actors brought a power to that, that people who hadn't thet— to that, that people who hadn't ttwet through— to that, that people who hadn't lived through it— to that, that people who hadn't lived through it simply couldn't hue. — lived through it simply couldn't hue. so— lived through it simply couldn't have. so louis,— lived through it simply couldn't have. so louis, why benjamin have. so louis, why is benjamin tetttng— have. so louis, why is benjamin talking rubbish? - have. so louis, why is benjamin talking rubbish? i— have. so louis, why is benjamin talking rubbish? i just think over the years i have seen so many performances by straight actors that have played gay characters that have been really moving, that have, you know, that have really changed the dial really helped dial and i think really helped destigmatize lot. ithink destigmatize it a lot. i think actually there _ destigmatize it a lot. i think actually there is— 3 g i i think actually there is something to be actually there is something to he-tor— actually there is something to he-tor when— actually there is something to be .for when a _ actually there is something to be for when a straight be said for when a straight ootor— be said for when a straight ootor oute— be said for when a straight actor puts themselves on the the— actor puts themselves on the ttneltt— actor puts themselves on the line,.it would— actor puts themselves on the line, it would been seen line, as it would have been seen once-ttme— line, as it would have been seen once-ttme ont- line, as it would have been seen once time and plays a gay once upon a time and plays a gay or-thot— once upon a time and plays a gay or-that actually- once upon a time and plays a gay or-that actually it- or lgbt role that actually it hunge— or lgbt role that actually it hrtnge o— or lgbt role that actually it brings a attention to it. brings a lot of attention to it. ant— brings a lot of attention to it. ant twe— brings a lot of attention to it. and i've actually— brings a lot of attention to it. and i've actually always really enroyet— and i've actually always really enroyeo eon— and i've actually always really enroyeo eon ot— and i've actually always really enjoyed sort of the in the

enjoyed sort of the pr in the run-thoee— enjoyed sort of the pr in the run _those kind - enjoyed sort of the pr in the run those kind of films run up to those kind of films where— run up to those kind of films where-actors— run up to those kind of films where actors kind of talk where the actors kind of talk ohout— where the actors kind of talk about-learn- where the actors kind of talk. about-learn-the about what they learn about the tem— about what they learn about the lgbt experience _ about what they learn about the lgbt experience they kind of lgbt experience as they kind of did lgbt experience as they kind of no the— lgbt experience as they kind of did the discovery— lgbt experience as they kind of did the discovery for the role ont— did the discovery for the role one-trough- did the discovery for the rolei one-trought-t and what they brought to it. i ton-t— and what they brought to it. i ton-t thtnt— and what they brought to it. i don't think it's— and what they brought to it. i don't think it's i— and what they brought to it. i don't think it's i think it's great— don't think it's i think it's greot to— don't think it's i think it's greot to he— don't think it's i think it's great to be able have lgbt great to be able to have lgbt toe— great to be able to have lgbt actors-roles,- great to be able to have lgbt actors-roles, but. actors play lgbt roles, but i ton-t— actors play lgbt roles, but i ton-t thtnt— actors play lgbt roles, but i don't think it's— actors play lgbt roles, but i don't think it's essential. and i don't think it's essential. and t thtnt— don't think it's essential. and t thtnt we— don't think it's essential. and i think we need— don't think it's essential. and i think we need to be really ouetut— i think we need to be really careful because— i think we need to be really careful because it was not so tong— careful because it was not so tong-when— careful because it was not so tong-when on— careful because it was not so long when an agent would long ago when an agent would hue—utm- long ago when an agent would have—actor, don'ti have said to their actor, don't do have said to their actor, don't to-thte— have said to their actor, don't to-thte thte— have said to their actor, don't do-this this will- have said to their actor, don't do this this will be bad do this. this this will be bad for do this. this this will be bad. for—stigmatised. for you. you'll be stigmatised. ant— for you. you'll be stigmatised. ant-mo.— for you. you'll be stigmatised. and-2023, we're- for you. you'll be stigmatised. and 2023, we're kind of and now in 2023, we're kind of eoytng— and now in 2023, we're kind of eoytng to— and now in 2023, we're kind of eoytng to them— and now in 2023, we're kind of saying to them again, don't do it, saying to them again, don't do to heoouee— saying to them again, don't do it, because, you— saying to them again, don't do it, because, you know, there wtt— it, because, you know, there wttt he— it, because, you know, there wttt he o— it, because, you know, there will be a backlash from, you know.— will be a backlash from, you know—thtnt- will be a backlash from, youj know,_think that will be a backlash from, you- know,_think that you know, people that think that you ehouttn-t— know, people that think that you shouldn't_roles,| shouldn't be having these roles, thu— shouldn't be having these roles, thot-eteottng— shouldn't be having these roles, that-stealing-so. that you're stealing them. so were-he— that you're stealing them. so we're-be back- that you're stealing them. so we're-be back in. that you're stealing them. so we're be back in that we're going to be back in that ettuotton— we're going to be back in that situation—not- we're going to be back in that situation._not ani situation. but is there not an argument.— situation. but is there not an argument,-that- situation. but is there not an argument, that you know, argument, louis, that you know, you— argument, louis, that you know, you ooute— argument, louis, that you know, you could actually— argument, louis, that you know, you could actually say there was a it you could actually say there was o-tt when— you could actually say there was a-it when fewer- you could actually say there was a it when fewer people a need for it when fewer people oomtng— a need for it when fewer people were coming. and - a need for it when fewer people were coming and now it were coming out and now it is muon— were coming out and now it is much-socially- were coming out and now it is much socially acceptable to much more socially acceptable to be much more socially acceptable to he-theretore— much more socially acceptable to be-therefore there's- much more socially acceptable to be therefore there's no be gay and therefore there's no need— be gay and therefore there's no need tor— be gay and therefore there's no need for someone— be gay and therefore there's no need for someone to act that rote— need for someone to act that rote tn— need for someone to act that rote tn the— need for someone to act that role in the same— need for someone to act that role in the same way. t/tit role in the same way. you woutun-t— role in the same way. you wouldn't need— role in the same way. you wouldn't need a man to act as a woman like you used to in the days shakespeare. well, days of shakespeare. well, i think points on think a couple of points on that. number one is if there is an-process and- that. number one is if there is an-process and if-

that. number one is if there is an-process and if the. an audition process and if the argument— an audition process and if the ugument te— an audition process and if the argument is, well, an lgbt oee— argument is, well, an lgbt oee te— argument is, well, an lgbt oeeon te gotng— argument is, well, an lgbt person is going to bring eomethtng— person is going to bring something role, person is going to bring somethey'll role, person is going to bring somethey'll get role, person is going to bring somethey'll get the role, person is going to bring somethey'll get the role. role, person is going to bring somethey'll get the role. ifle, then they'll get the role. if there-e— then they'll get the role. if there-e o— then they'll get the role. if there's a straight actor that hrtnge— there's a straight actor that brings something different that the-thee.— brings something different that the-likes, then- brings something different that the likes, then maybe brings something different that the it. likes, then maybe brings something different that the it. li izs, then maybe brings something different that the it. li i thinktn maybe brings something different that the it. li i think also iybe brings something different that the it. li i think also it's that's it. and i think also it's ohout— that's it. and i think also it's ohout-that.- that's it. and i think also it's about-that, you- that's it. and i think also it's about that, you know, about saying that, you know, hetng— about saying that, you know, being-bisexual- about saying that, you know, being bisexual or lgbt is being gay or bisexual or lgbt is not the— being gay or bisexual or lgbt is not the moet— being gay or bisexual or lgbt is not the most defining person . not the most defining person. unu— not the most defining person. wnu tt— not the most defining person. wnu t the— not the most defining person. what if the role _ not the most defining person. what if the role is for someone thu— what if the role is for someone thu hoooene— what if the role is for someone thu hoooene to— what if the role is for someone that happens to be gay but they wort— that happens to be gay but they worklo— that happens to be gay but they wortlo-ttrme— that happens to be gay but they work-a .firm? and - that happens to be gay but they work a firm? and that's work in a law firm? and that's wnu— work in a law firm? and that's wnu-toue— work in a law firm? and that's what-focus of— work in a law firm? and that's what-focus of the- work in a law firm? and that's what focus of the story is? what the focus of the story is? is what the focus of the story is? re tt— what the focus of the story is? re tt then — what the focus of the story is? is it then better— what the focus of the story is? is it then better to— what the focus of the story is? is it then better to have someone that- is it then better to have someone that law is it then better to have- someone that-law degree someone that had a law degree hetore— someone that had a law degree hetore-went— someone that had a law degree before -went into- someone that had a law degree before went into acting? before they went into acting? rte—tor- before they went into acting? it's—for some- it's being lgbt for some characters. _ it's being lgbt for some characters. to be characters. it's not going to be the— characters. it's not going to be the overarching— characters. it's not going to be the overarching thing that tettnee— the overarching thing that defines them.— the overarching thing that defines them. do you think thot-e— defines them. do you think that's fair?— defines them. do you think that's fair? _ defines them. do you think that's fair? “ that's fair? benjamin that perhaps minimising perhaps it's actually minimising the being about the role to just being about sexual orientation ? i mean, sexual orientation? i mean, look, if a role is— sexual orientation? i mean, look, if a role is being- 7 i mean, look, if a role is being behind the— look, if a role is being behind the our— look, if a role is being behind the our tn— look, if a role is being behind the bar in the— look, if a role is being behind the bar in the rovers return and the bar in the rovers return and the oeeoe— the bar in the rovers return and the person's sexuality makes hoetootty— the person's sexuality makes hoetootty no— the person's sexuality makes basically no reference , but they basically no reference, but they are theoretically— basically no reference, but they are theoretically a— basically no reference, but they are theoretically a gay character— are theoretically a gay character ,_ are theoretically a gay character , sure, it doesn't character, sure, it doesn't matter — character, sure, it doesn't matter. but— character, sure, it doesn't matter. but what i'm talking ohout— matter. but what i'm talking ohout te— matter. but what i'm talking about is these— matter. but what i'm talking about is these stories of oeoote-e— about is these stories of people's lives- about is these stories of people's lives that they can do a people's lives that they can do u hetter— people's lives that they can do u hetter toh — people's lives that they can do a better job of.— people's lives that they can do a betterjob of. so— people's lives that they can do a better job of. so take, for exempte— a better job of. so take, for exampler o— a better job of. so take, for example, a program that aired on the hhc— example, a program that aired on the the hon — example, a program that aired on the bbc from america called pose

. it the bbc from america called pose . tt we— the bbc from america called pose . tt ohout— the bbc from america called pose . it was about black— the bbc from america called pose . it was about black transgender oeoote— . it was about black transgender oeoote tn— . it was about black transgender oeoote tn the— . it was about black transgender people in the 1980s that produced— people in the 1980s that produced the— people in the 1980s that produced the kind of music that oeoote— produced the kind of music that oeoote the— produced the kind of music that people like rupaul and madonna that me— people like rupaul and madonna thot out— people like rupaul and madonna that came out of— people like rupaul and madonna that came out of it. and they mote— that came out of it. and they mote o— that came out of it. and they made a brilliant— that came out of it. and they made a brilliant drama about it. ant— made a brilliant drama about it. ant the— made a brilliant drama about it. and the actors— made a brilliant drama about it. and the actors who— made a brilliant drama about it. and the actors who played that htooh — and the actors who played that were black, trans— and the actors who played that were black, trans people, some of were black, trans people, some ot whom— were black, trans people, some of whom remembered that period of whom remembered that period ot ttme.— of whom remembered that period ot ttme. ant— of whom remembered that period ot ttme. ant tt— of whom remembered that period of time. and it brought a power to thu— of time. and it brought a power to that very— of time. and it brought a power to that very sensitive story . to that very sensitive story. notty— to that very sensitive story. notty ont— to that very sensitive story. worry and o— to that very sensitive story. motty and a depth to it that huet— motty and a depth to it that just wouldn't— motty and a depth to it that just wouldn't have happened otherwtee. — just wouldn't have happened otherwise. and— just wouldn't have happened otherwise. and if- just wouldn't have happened otherwise. ' 3 �*7 i just wouldn't have happened otherwise. “3 �*7 i i otherwise. and if it isn't the case that you shouldn't be a part the group that you're part of the group that you're trying to represent, that it that it doesn't an that it doesn't bring an authenticity, have authenticity, i wouldn't have a white bloke playing nelson mandela think mandela and actually i think most would recognise most people now would recognise as sort of pretending to as someone sort of pretending to be a wheelchair bit be in a wheelchair is a bit awkward as well. i think this is orogreee. — awkward as well. i think this is orogreee. wnu— awkward as well. i think this is progress. what do— awkward as well. i think this is progress. what do you- 3 i think this is progress. what do you mean you wouttn-t— progress. what do you mean you wouttn-t get— progress. what do you mean you wouldn't getlwhite_ progress. what do you mean you wouldn't get white playing wouldn't get a white guy playing weteon— wouldn't get a white guy playing nelson mandela?— wouldn't get a white guy playing nelson mandela? _ wouldn't get a white guy playing nelson mandela? t/tit. gig nelson mandela? you get lots of black playing black people playing white characters to be characters and that seems to be okay. had a black actress okay. we had a black actress playing queen elizabeth the first. goes. i think. first. anything goes. i think. i think most people would find it i think most people would find tt-tt— i think most people would find tt-tt not— i think most people would find it-if not insulting- i think most people would find it if not insulting , to it comical, if not insulting, to see eamonn holmes playing the rote— see eamonn holmes playing the

rote ot— see eamonn holmes playing the role of nelson— see eamonn holmes playing the role of nelson mandela. right i ton-t— role of nelson mandela. right i ton-t thtnt— role of nelson mandela. right i don't think that's— role of nelson mandela. right i don't think that's one job you-e— don't think that's one job youe gotng— don't think that's one job you're going to find that that actress, that— you're going to find that that actress, that black actress who otoyet— actress, that black actress who played elizabeth— actress, that black actress who played elizabeth the first tneutttng — played elizabeth the first insulting well mean i haven't thu— insulting well mean i haven't seen that particular program . so seen that particular program. so i seen that particular program. so t ton-t— seen that particular program. so t ton-t mow— seen that particular program. so t ton-t tnow t— seen that particular program. so i don't know i don't know ewootty— i don't know i don't know exactly what— i don't know i don't know exactly what you're talking ohout. — exactly what you're talking about. well,— exactly what you're talking about. well, concept the about. well, the concept the concept— about. well, the concept the oonoeot thu— about. well, the concept the concept that black actress concept that a black actress woutt— concept that a black actress woutt-o- concept that a black actress would - a white - would pay play a white historical— would pay play a white historical you're historical character. and you're supposed that. well, supposed to believe that. well, hang on. i mean, there's- 3 well, hang on. i mean, there's been eome-ttte— hang on. i mean, there's been some - like the - hang on. i mean, there's been some like the netflix some stuff like the netflix tremo— some stuff like the netflix drama where _ some stuff like the netflix drama where people thought that there— drama where people thought that there weent— drama where people thought that there weren't black people uourt— there weren't black people uount tn— there weren't black people around in the— there weren't black people around in the aristocracy and in thoee— around in the aristocracy and in thoee hone— around in the aristocracy and in thoee oone ot— around in the aristocracy and in those parts of britain at the ttme. — those parts of britain at the ttme. ant— those parts of britain at the time. and there— those parts of britain at the time. and there were so i think there-e— time. and there were so i think there-e heeh— time. and there were so i think there's been some— time. and there were so i think there's been some historical rewrtttng— there's been some historical rewrtttng on— there's been some historical rewriting on some those rewriting on some of those controversies— controversies where people saw htoot— controversies where people saw htoot-tn— controversies where people saw black-in historical. black people in in historical uunoe— black people in in historical uunoe hut.— black people in in historical dramas. but, mean, there's dramas. but, i mean, there's the— dramas. but, i mean, there's thte .— dramas. but, i mean, there's thte . oe— dramas. but, i mean, there's thte . oe tt— dramas. but, i mean, there's this , as it called— dramas. but, i mean, there's this , as it called being called this, as it called being called colour—blind— this, as it called being called colour—blind and— this, as it called being called colour—blind and whatever. so the— colour—blind and whatever. so the gooe— colour—blind and whatever. so the goes on— colour—blind and whatever. so this goes on all— colour—blind and whatever. so this goes on all the— colour—blind and whatever. so this goes on all the time.- this goes on all the time. i mean, this is a nonsense. i watched kenneth branagh's film belfast, which had indian corner shop owners and black schoolteachers and whatever. believe me, the only black people belfast in people you saw in belfast in 1969 was either soldier or doctor, and that was it. but that was retro casting and it was being colour—blind. and

that's the way it is. so i find it quite strange that when all these things happen in and they're accepted and seem to they're accepted and you seem to accept that it's not accept that it's that it's not good to have a white person play medicine. mandela you say medicine. mandela that you say only can a gay only a gay guy can play a gay guy. but only a gay guy can play a gay guy . but let only a gay guy can play a gay guy. but let me only a gay guy can play a gay guy . but let me say this to you. guy. but let me say this to you. they— guy. but let me say this to you. they there— guy. but let me say this to you. okay there have— guy but let me say this to you. okay there have obviously been heterosexual— okay there have obviously been heterosexual actors who have tone— heterosexual actors who have tone gooe— heterosexual actors who have done good portrayals of gay eohoote— done good portrayals of gay eohoote. — done good portrayals of gay eohoote. t— done good portrayals of gay schools. i think- done good portrayals of gay schools . schools. i think matthew mcconaughey in dallas buyers club got oscars exquisite, in my opinion . yeah, but let me make opinion. yeah, but let me make the— opinion. yeah, but let me make thte hotht— opinion. yeah, but let me make thte ootnt .— opinion. yeah, but let me make thte ootnt . wou— opinion. yeah, but let me make this point . you know,- “ yeah, but let me make this point . you know, brokeback this point. you know, brokeback mouton.— this point. you know, brokeback nountun. o— this point. you know, brokeback mountain, a film _ this point. you know, brokeback mountain, a film that as a young teenoge— mountain, a film that as a young teenoge guy— mountain, a film that as a young teenage gay person had a huge etteot— teenage gay person had a huge etteot on— teenage gay person had a huge etteot on me— teenage gay person had a huge effect on me. and— teenage gay person had a huge effect on me. and they were heterosexual— effect on me. and they were heterosexual actors and they did a heterosexual actors and they did a good— heterosexual actors and they did u good too. — heterosexual actors and they did a good job. there'd_ heterosexual actors and they did a good job. there'd be no tenytng— a good job. there'd be no tenytnglhut- a good job. there'd be no denying but you have to ask denying it. but you have to ask youeett— denying it. but you have to ask youeett-te— denying it. but you have to ask youeett-te tt— denying it. but you have to ask yourself-is it that- yourself why is it that hoetootty— yourself why is it that basically all- yourself why is it that basically all of those major nottywoot— basically all of those major nottywooo guy— basically all of those major hollywood gay story is basically every— hollywood gay story is basically ewery ttteruty— hollywood gay story is basically every literally every single one unth— every literally every single one unttt very— every literally every single one until very recently went to heterosexual— until very recently went to heterosexual actors ? is that not heterosexual actors? is that not a heterosexual actors? is that not a orohtem— heterosexual actors? is that not o orohtem thu— heterosexual actors? is that not a problem that no— heterosexual actors? is that not a problem that no gay people got to tett— a problem that no gay people got to tett thoee— a problem that no gay people got to tell those stories— a problem that no gay people got to tell those stories and it was my— to tell those stories and it was only heterosexual.— to tell those stories and it was only heterosexual. so it is heoouee— only heterosexual. so it is because they—

only heterosexual. so it is because they wouldn't think a gay— because they wouldn't think a guy ootor— because they wouldn't think a gay actor would _ because they wouldn't think a gay actor would sell. they wouttn-t— gay actor would sell. they wouldn't think— gay actor would sell. they wouldn't think it'd be commercial. - wouldn't think it'd be commercial. and we have to break thu— commercial. and we have to break that town— commercial. and we have to break that town no— commercial. and we have to break that town — commercial. and we have to break that down now. tij3t

tnteet. — both of you. thank you very much tnteet. hottng— both of you. thank you very much indeed. dating interview- indeed. dating interview with simon callow, i think last year, highly acclaimed, highly critically acclaimed, prominent actor. highly critically acclaimed, prominfsaid actor. highly critically acclaimed, prominfsaid he actor. highly critically acclaimed, prominfsaid he didn't actor. highly critically acclaimed, prominfsaid he didn't think:tor. highly critically acclaimed, prominfsaid he didn't think that and he said he didn't think that roles be diminished roles should be diminished down to sexuality. it to somebody's sexuality. it should be based on their ability to wonderful voice. simon to act wonderful voice. simon callow a to act wonderful voice. simon callow-a wonderful- ei. 3 ti.ti simon callow a wonderful voice. callow has a wonderful voice. very.— callow has a wonderful voice. very. very— callow has a wonderful voice. very, very because most very, very good, because most toe— very, very good, because most actors are performing a role thu— actors are performing a role that-newer- actors are performing a role that never necessarily that they've never necessarily thet— that they've never necessarily lived through— that they've never necessarily lived through themselves. that they've never necessarily lived th ” gut themselves. that they've never necessarily lived th ” g“ themselves. that they've never necessarily lived th ” g“ mselves. that they've never necessarily lived th ” g“ tees. that they've never necessarily lived th ” g“ ” exactly right. so that's our let us know yours playing the gladiator. you know russell crowe — gladiator. you know russell gone on.— gladiator. you know russell crowe. oh, yeah.— gladiator. you know russell crowe. oh, yeah. i- (get: you know russell crowe. oh, yeah. i think i'd hue— crowe. oh, yeah. i think i'd hue heeh— crowe. oh, yeah. i think i'd have been good— crowe. oh, yeah. i think i'd have been good in that role. i ooute— have been good in that role. i ooutt eee— have been good in that role. i could see, but— have been good in that role. i could see, but i— have been good in that role. i could see, but i wasn't a gtottotor— could see, but i wasn't a gladiator, so— could see, but i wasn't a gladiator, so maybe i wouldn't be gladiator, so maybe i wouldn't he-to— gladiator, so maybe i wouldn't he-to-wo- gladiator, so maybe i wouldn't he-to-wo. tm| be allowed to play. no, i'm oomtng— be allowed to play. no, i'm oomtnglto— be allowed to play. no, i'm coming to 25 8. be allowed to play. no, i'm. coming-to 25.8. please be allowed to play. no, i'm- comingito 25.8. please do coming up to 25 to 8. please do stay coming up to 25 to 8. please do stoy wtth— coming up to 25 to 8. please do stoy wtth ue— coming up to 25 to 8. please do stay with us after— coming up to 25 to 8. please do stay with us after the— ti.ti.ti“ “g l. i7; 8 please do stay with us after the break, wnu— stay with us after the break, wnu ue— stay with us after the break, wnu we— stay with us after the break, what are we discussing? kittie. what are we discussing? well, the— what are we discussing? well, the to— what are we discussing? well, the to o— what are we discussing? well, the to to huge— what are we discussing? well, this is a huge story. what are we discussing? kittie. “.tgti britain's this is a huge story. britain's obesity crisis— “.tgti britain's obesity crisis apparently 7000 oeoote— obesity crisis apparently 7000 heoue-every- obesity crisis apparently 7000 people every year people are dying every year heoouee— people are dying every year heoouee ot— people are dying every year because of it.— people are dying every year because of it. we'll be discussing— because of it. we'll be discussing it- because of it. we'll be discussing it with david mellor and discussing it with david mellor ont tmmo— discussing it with david mellor and emma-next- discussing it with david mellor and emma next in the and emma burnell next in the oooere— and emma burnell next in the otoue-te— and emma burnell next in the oooere-te .-

see two minutes before 8:00. ttmo— see two minutes before 8:00. ttmo to— see two minutes before 8:00. ttmo to go— see two minutes before 8:00. time to go through— see two minutes before 8:00. time to go through the- see two minutes before 8:00. time to go through the papers. joining us, david mellor and also emma burnell. very nice to see you both. and david, we want to talk financial matters and britain's economic prospects were underestimated, says the telegraph. yes , unfortunately, telegraph. yes, unfortunately, the neutron— telegraph. yes, unfortunately, the telegraph only— tigitg “ yes, unfortunately, the telegraph only says so onttne— the telegraph only says so online, which— the telegraph only says so online, which is why i have to hotte— online, which is why i have to fiddle around—

online, which is why i have to fiddle around with my mobile. it's fiddle around with my mobile. tt-e not— fiddle around with my mobile. it's not because— fiddle around with my mobile. it's not because i'm taking eouoy— it's not because i'm taking eouoy tewte— it's not because i'm taking saucy texts from anybody, but the not— saucy texts from anybody, but the not thu— saucy texts from anybody, but the not that anyone who would eent — the not that anyone who would eent o— the not that anyone who would eent o eouoy— the not that anyone who would send a saucy text— the not that anyone who would send a saucy text watches gb wewe. — send a saucy text watches gb wewe. ttm— send a saucy text watches gb wewe. tm eorry— send a saucy text watches gb news. i'm sorry to— send a saucy text watches gb news. i'm sorry to break that to you,— news. i'm sorry to break that to you. out— news. i'm sorry to break that to you. hut thot-e— news. i'm sorry to break that to you, but that's the _ news. i'm sorry to break that to you, but that's the fact of it. hut— you, but that's the fact of it. hut tt-e— you, but that's the fact of it. hut tt-e gutte— you, but that's the fact of it. but it's quite interesting ootuotty— but it's quite interesting ootuotty. tt— but it's quite interesting actually. it is— but it's quite interesting actually. it is interesting. the round— actually. it is interesting. the round te— actually. it is interesting. the round te no— actually. it is interesting. the pound is now forecast to rise ehuoty— pound is now forecast to rise ehuoty ogunet— pound is now forecast to rise sharply against the dollar after one sharply against the dollar after ot— sharply against the dollar after ot the— sharply against the dollar after one of the city's— sharply against the dollar after one of the city's most gloomy onutyete— one of the city's most gloomy analysts, which _ one of the city's most gloomy analysts, which happened to come trom— analysts, which happened to come trom otty— analysts, which happened to come trom otty hunt.— analysts, which happened to come from city bank, admitted it was wrong— from city bank, admitted it was wrong to— from city bank, admitted it was wrong to underestimate britain's economic . prospects. and with an economic. prospects. and with an honeety— economic. prospects. and with an honeety very— economic. prospects. and with an honesty very commendable and not often— honesty very commendable and not otten to— honesty very commendable and not otten to he— honesty very commendable and not often to be found— honesty very commendable and not often to be found in— honesty very commendable and not often to be found in politics. the— often to be found in politics. the heou— often to be found in politics. the heat ot— often to be found in politics. the head of european foreign exchange— the head of european foreign exchange strategy at city said its predictions— exchange strategy at city said its predictions of— exchange strategy at city said its predictions of a material ootteotton— its predictions of a material collection house— its predictions of a material collection house material ooueototn— collection house material correction but— collection house material correction but with false teeth hoot— correction but with false teeth hoot tn— correction but with false teeth hoot tn o— correction but with false teeth back in a material correction in home— back in a material correction in houee ortoee— back in a material correction in house prices and— back in a material correction in house prices and a— back in a material correction in house prices and a collapse in ooneumotton— house prices and a collapse in consumption have— house prices and a collapse in consumption have not come to hoee.— consumption have not come to hoee. ant— consumption have not come to ooee. ant thte— consumption have not come to pass. and this is— consumption have not come to pass. and this is what he said. the— pass. and this is what he said. the notee— pass. and this is what he said. the notee to— pass. and this is what he said. the notes to clients, he said. euotee. — the notes to clients, he said. euotee. wre— the notes to clients, he said. quotes. we have— the notes to clients, he said. quotes. we have been wrong, rotun— quotes. we have been wrong, otun ont— quotes. we have been wrong, plain and simple— quotes. we have been wrong, plain and simple . i plain and simple. was it not a forecast— plain and simple. was it not a forecast they made in the wake of the disastrous kamikwasi budget last september when

everybody was in a in a bit of a sort of freefall and nobody really knew was going to really knew what was going to happen, including indeed who created why they might have created it, why they might have got wrong. but i mean, is got it wrong. but i mean, is that that what that the story here? that what does forecasts about the does it most forecasts about the economy are wrong? what it means is economy are wrong? what it means te-toee— economy are wrong? what it means te-toeelmeon— economy are wrong? what it means te-toeelmeon tt— economy are wrong? what it means is-doeslmean if british- is what does it mean if british temont— is what does it mean if british temontlto— is what does it mean if british demand-to rise?— is what does it mean if british demand to rise? is that good? demand is to rise? is that good? 130 demand is to rise? is that good? too rte— demand is to rise? is that good? too he he— demand is to rise? is that good? too he he ot— demand is to rise? is that good? 130 it's 126 at the— demand is to rise? is that good? 130 it's 126 at the moment.- 130 it's 126 at the moment. i think 130 it's126 at the moment. i think he'll go one. so that means think he'll go one. so that thu— think he'll go one. so that means that we— think he'll go one. so that means that we go- .. tgtit so that means that we go abroad. we can buy— means that we go abroad. we can huy more— means that we go abroad. we can huy ureth— means that we go abroad. we can buy more. well, that would be onelthe— buy more. well, that would be one-the hopeful— buy more. well, that would be one the hopeful things. one of the hopeful things. you. — one of the hopeful things. you. woe.— one of the hopeful things. yeah. yes. yes.— one of the hopeful things. yeah. yes. yes. there- one of the hopeful things. t/tine“ “titer “titer “tifti t3tit one of the hopeful things. yeah. yes. yes. there we go. and of course, also . so it should of course, also. so it should have an impact on interest rates. but but but the point is it's talking down. the british economy has been a habit of people really in all the years i've been interested in politics. but the british economy and the british people , economy and the british people, despite some of their awful political leaders, are stronger than we ever give them credit for. and there is more resilience in the british economy. the british economy is more effective than a lot of its critics. so don't minded just to say hindsight is a wonderful

thing. ijust remembering in say hindsight is a wonderful thing. i just remembering in the tmmettote— “g i just remembering in the immediate aftermath of that mtnt—hutget— immediate aftermath of that mini—budget, wasn't it parity hetween— mini—budget, wasn't it parity hetween the— mini—budget, wasn't it parity between the dollar and the pound?— between the dollar and the pound?-that's- between the dollar and the pound? that's right. and pound? yes, that's right. and nohoty— pound? yes, that's right. and nohoty-tnew- pound? yes, that's right. and- nobody-knew-resilient nobody really knew how resilient the pound— nobody really knew how resilient the pound we— nobody really knew how resilient the pound was going to be. so you— the pound was going to be. so you ooute— the pound was going to be. so you could understand why their toreooete—l forecasts would be terrible, heoouee— forecasts would be terrible, because .were - forecasts would be terrible, because were all very, very because we were all very, very worrtet— because we were all very, very wormed—oteo- because we were all very, very worried—also all. because we were all very, very. worried—also all that worried. well, and also all that weiheoome— worried. well, and also all that we became experts in gilts we all became experts in gilts for we all became experts in gilts tor moet— we all became experts in gilts tor moet ot— we all became experts in gilts for most of the— we all became experts in gilts for most of the things in that hutget— for most of the things in that budget unravelled. budget were unravelled. so ththge— budget were unravelled. so ththge howe— budget were unravelled. so things have changed. - budget were unravelled. so things have changed. therefore, forecasts changed. and that's right , they wrong, but they right, they were wrong, but they were wrong because they didn't see being unravelled at the see that being unravelled at the time. no one did. you know liz truss was not saying, actually, i'll step down. actually, i'll turn this all around . so i mean, turn this all around. so i mean, a dollar 30 is still not anything like the peak strength that the pound's been at. i mean, i remember going to new york in 2014 and we were nearly $2 to the pound. you could go on a great shopping trip, which i very much did. so it's not there's nothing we need to put this into context that it's not as strong as it has been as it

could be. the problem, i mean, forecasters have a difficult job every one who says this is what's going to happen has a difficult job. i know, because i'm quite often asked what will be the outcome of the next election for example. and i'm like, well, i don't know. so here's where i think we stand at the moment . and based on that, the moment. and based on that, this is what i think will happen. nobody's happen. but i'm nobody's investing money based on investing their money based on what i'm saying. and this is the problem economic forecasts. problem with economic forecasts. it shift out where it will shift out where investment goes . absolutely no . investment goes. absolutely no. tmmu— investment goes. absolutely no. tmmu you— investment goes. absolutely no. emma, are you reading- g absolutely no. emma, are you reading this, the hou— emma, are you reading this, the tront rouge— emma, are you reading this, the tront ooge ot— emma, are you reading this, the front page of the— emma, are you reading this, the front page of the daily express? you wont— front page of the daily express? you wont to— front page of the daily express? you want to talk— front page of the daily express? you want to talk about? and the toeteet— you want to talk about? and the toeteet growtng— you want to talk about? and the fastest growing health emergency in fastest growing health emergency tn the— fastest growing health emergency tn thte country— fastest growing health emergency in this country is— fastest growing health emergency in this country is diabetes. wooh. — in this country is diabetes. wooh. wow— in this country is diabetes. yeah. now let's— in this country is diabetes. yeah. now let's be- in this country is diabetes. t/tine“ witth in this country is diabetes. yeah. now let's be clear. this is type two diabetes. liz so there are two types of diabetes, one of which is genetic and children on type one diabetes. it's not caused by lifestyle concerns. type two diabetes is largely driven by lifestyle

concerns , not least obesity . and concerns, not least obesity. and there's been a massive rise in this over the last few years, up 13, up 13% pre—pandemic levels. yeah, exactly . which means i yeah, exactly. which means i mean, there are obvious reasons. there were two years where exercising was considerably harder and comfort eating was an obvious thing to do . we all did obvious thing to do. we all did it . and i think that, you know, it. and i think that, you know, in the same way that alcohol consumption went up during the pandemic, so did food takeaways. the only people still working with a delivery at home, making all that gorgeous sourdough bread and the banana bread and all the cakes. so i think that this may be a post—pandemic blip, but it is something that we do need to look at. we do need to be i mean, i'm conscious that i'm talking about obesity. i'm no longer morbidly obese, which i once was, but i've got exactly two stone, three and a half pounds to lose before i hit my target weight. so i am

nowhere near a healthy weight at the moment. but you're trying . the moment. but you're trying. i'm doing my best. absolutely a type two diabetic. i'm not a tvint— type two diabetic. i'm not a typo two— type two diabetic. i'm not a type two diabetic. i'm not a type two diabetic. i was type two diabetic. i was glory type two diabetic. i was glory of it. type two diabetic. i was glory ot tt. wou— type two diabetic. i was glory of it. you can— type two diabetic. i was glory of it. you can reverse- type two diabetic. i was glory of it. you can reverse it.- gt ti. i was glory of it. you can reverse it. you can reverse it. _ of it. you can reverse it. you can reverse it. in- of it. you can reverse it. you can reverse it. “ �*eri of it. you can reverse it. you can reverse it. “ ei. can reverse it. in fact, my dad's done so. which i'm so proud of him in in doing so, he's. how did he do it? he changed his lifestyle. i mean, my mum transferred all of the lifelong diet energy that she's had onto my dad and the dog . the had onto my dad and the dog. the poor gets no food . oh, no. poor dog gets no food. oh, no. but so they've changed their lifestyle. they drink less than they used to. they eat more since. yeah, the dog drinks a lot less than they used to, but. and it's about making small lifestyle shifts . everything in lifestyle shifts. everything in moderation is my sort of humble opinion . the way to go? opinion. the way to go? certainly i've found that supported through the slimming world plan that i use, which means that if i want to have a bit of chocolate, i just have to balance it with other things. sustainable exactly. it's unsustainable to live completely like but it is like a monk. okay. but it is a worrying factor in when we're

looking at that is in crisis anyway . if the things that are anyway. if the things that are likely to drive much more nhs usage are going up at the same time as we're already seeing waiting lists rise , that is a waiting lists rise, that is a worry. yeah, well said. okay, let's. it was the victory- t/tine“ t: okay, let's. it was the victory parade in let's. it was the victory parade tn noeoo— let's. it was the victory parade in moscow yesterday in red sguue— in moscow yesterday in red sguue onu— in moscow yesterday in red square and, uh,— in moscow yesterday in red square and, uh, david, you've token— square and, uh, david, you've toten on— square and, uh, david, you've taken an article— square and, uh, david, you've taken an article from the neutron— taken an article from the tetegrooh .— taken an article from the telegraph , uh, a column by telegraph, uh, a column by women— telegraph, uh, a column by women te— telegraph, uh, a column by hamish de bretton—gordon and tetttng— hamish de bretton—gordon and tetttng ohout— hamish de bretton—gordon and talking about how russia is ootuuty— talking about how russia is actually suffering worse than nyoe— actually suffering worse than anyone thinks— actually suffering worse than anyone thinks .— actually suffering worse than anyone thinks . yes. “titer “ anyone thinks. yes. yes. i mean , anyone thinks. yes. yes. i mean ryou— anyone thinks. yes. yes. i mean , you wonder what i worry, actually about putin because you think, how could he have credibly stood there while one single, 1943 tank went through ? single, 1943 tank went through? i mean it. but but behind all of that, there is a recognition that, there is a recognition that the russians i mean, they can still push a button and destroy all of us. so we don't want to get too complacent about

russia. but the reality is, in terms of the quality of their soldiers is they're not high calibre. and to be fair to what is what is what, what what what has happened in in basically they haven't managed to adapt to modern warfare , which is modern warfare, which is probably good from our point of view, but it means their losses are unsustainable except they go to a group like and indeed it's all over the times the wagner group where they get people out of prison and send them to the front line murderers and so on. so it's fascinating . where's it so it's fascinating. where's it all going to end? i tell you, i'm not i'm not at all sure indefinitely. i mean, even the wrogner— indefinitely. i mean, even the wogner orouo— indefinitely. i mean, even the wagner group are— “t3ti “ gily i mean, even the wagner group are upset with huttn— wagner group are upset with huttn ot— wagner group are upset with huttn u the— wagner group are upset with putin at the moment. so this is the mercenary group that the russian government commission. yeah, the russian government

oommteetonet— yeah, the russian government. commissioned—group. commissioned the wagner group. the commissioned the wagner group. the—te— commissioned the wagner group. the—te eoytng- the uk government is saying they-re— the uk government is saying they-re-to— the uk government is saying they're to prescribe them they're going to prescribe them as they're going to prescribe them oelterrortet— they're going to prescribe them as terrorist organisation. as a terrorist organisation. eute— as a terrorist organisation. outte rtghtty— as a terrorist organisation. quite rightly. agree quite rightly. i fully agree wtth— quite rightly. i fully agree with _ indeed. j with that already. indeed. aheotutety— with that already. indeed. absolutely but even there, there are absolutely but even there, there teneton — absolutely but even there, there are tension between the wagner erouo— are tension between the wagner orouo ont— are tension between the wagner orouo end the— are tension between the wagner group and the russian ministry of group and the russian ministry ot-where— group and the russian ministry ot-where they- group and the russian ministry of where they there was of defence, where they there was a of defence, where they there was a ytteo— of defence, where they there was a ytteo where — of defence, where they there was a video where the— of defence, where they there was a video where the head of the wagner— a video where the head of the wogner orouo— a video where the head of the wagner group with dead bodies hehtnt— wagner group with dead bodies hehtnt htm — wagner group with dead bodies behind him was— wagner group with dead bodies behind him was saying, you are tttttng— behind him was saying, you are tttttng ue— behind him was saying, you are killing us, you're— behind him was saying, you are killing us, you're not sending us killing us, you're not sending ue enough— killing us, you're not sending us enough ammunition . so even us enough ammunition. so even wtth— us enough ammunition. so even wtth theee— us enough ammunition. so even with these mercenary groups, there— with these mercenary groups, there te— with these mercenary groups, there is tensions— with these mercenary groups, there is tensions spilling out hto— there is tensions spilling out tnto ouhtto— there is tensions spilling out into public, which you can tmogtne— into public, which you can imagine that— into public, which you can imagine that given how controlled— imagine that given how controlled the russian narrative is, controlled the russian narrative te. tt— controlled the russian narrative te. tt theee— controlled the russian narrative is, if these are— controlled the russian narrative is, if these are spilling out hto— is, if these are spilling out tnto outtto— is, if these are spilling out into public, what on earth is hoooentng— into public, what on earth is happening behind the scenes and wnu— happening behind the scenes and whot te— happening behind the scenes and whot te whet— happening behind the scenes and what is what point— happening behind the scenes and what is what point is he going to moye— what is what point is he going to move against— what is what point is he going to move against putin? i mean, nutm— to move against putin? i mean, huttn toots— to move against putin? i mean, putin looks dreadful now. i mean, it's hard. it's impossible not to believe he's ill. yeah the worry is, of course, if he's going, you'll want to take some of the rest of us with him, if not quite a lot of the rest. guys got a got to cut across not quite a lot of the rest. - guys got a got to cut across you there.— guys got a got to cut across you there. thunk— guys got a got to cut across you there. thank you— guys got a got to cut across you there. thank you both very much tnteet. — there. thank you both very much tnteet. see— there. thank you both very much indeed. see you— there. thank you both very much indeed. see you again just after hut— indeed. see you again just after hott huet— indeed. see you again just after hott ooet etght— indeed. see you again just after half past eight, right with the

ttme— half past eight, right with the ttme ot— half past eight, right with the ttme u too. — half past eight, right with the time at 747. e”ti; 3 time at 747. these are today's top stories and a us jury has found donald trump sexually abused magazine writer e! abused the magazine writer e! jean carroll in the 1990s and then defamed her by branding her a liar. he must now pay nearly £4 million in damages to the columnist. trump has called the verdict a disgrace, saying he will appeal the archbishop of canterbury will condemn the government's illegal migration bill in parliament later today. the legislation aims to detain ont— the legislation aims to detain ont oromotty— the legislation aims to detain and promptly remove people who tn— and promptly remove people who tn the— and promptly remove people who arrive in the uk— and promptly remove people who arrive in the uk in— and promptly remove people who arrive in the uk in small boats etther— arrive in the uk in small boats etther to— arrive in the uk in small boats either to their— arrive in the uk in small boats either to their home country or a either to their home country or a thru— either to their home country or othtrt oountry— either to their home country or a third country like rwanda . a third country like rwanda. tohort— a third country like rwanda. tohort ho— a third country like rwanda. robert de niro_ a third country like rwanda. robert de niro has- a third country like rwanda. robert de niro has announced the birth of his seventh child. he is 79 years old and the oscar winner shared the news during an interview with et, canada . parts interview with et, canada. parts of england have been hit by hailstorms , heavy rain and hailstorms, heavy rain and thunder with yellow weather warnings in place until 10:00 tonight at the met office says heavy showers with the risk of thunder and hail persist

thunder and hail will persist over the next two days . now, over the next two days. now, we've all heard the warnings over the years, haven't we, that processed meat or red meat can all cause cancer? well up next, we'll be speaking to nick wheeler. he was a vegetarian for 40 years, but after being diagnosed with bowel cancer in 2021, his nutritionist actually told him to add meat back into his diet to help him fight the disease whilst he was getting his medical treatment. well, that's interesting advice, but nick has since given up vegetarianism . and guess what? vegetarianism. and guess what? his vegetarianism. and guess what? we oonoer— vegetarianism. and guess what? we hoe— vegetarianism. and guess what? his cancer has stopped- g e“ and guess what? his cancer has stopped growing. it's his cancer has stopped growing. to huet— his cancer has stopped growing. we we etoooet— his cancer has stopped growing. we we etoooeo .— his cancer has stopped growing. it's just stopped . nick and his it's just stopped. nick and his nutritionist— it's just stopped. nick and his nutritionist ,_ it's just stopped. nick and his nutritionist , reese join us now. nutritionist, reese join us now. very— nutritionist, reese join us now. very good— nutritionist, reese join us now. very good to— nutritionist, reese join us now. very good to eee— nutritionist, reese join us now. very good to see you both . hi. very good to see you both. hi. we— very good to see you both. hi. me good— very good to see you both. hi. me good to— very good to see you both. hi. it's good to see— very good to see you both. hi. it's good to see you. well, i'm tt— it's good to see you. well, i'm tt te— it's good to see you. well, i'm sure it is good— it's good to see you. well, i'm sure it is good to— it's good to see you. well, i'm sure it is good to see you. toure— sure it is good to see you. yue gut.— sure it is good to see you. you're glad. what a story. you see:— you're glad. what a story. you t— you're glad. what a story. you t woutt— you're glad. what a story. you see, i would have— you're glad. what a story. you see, i would have thought i read all see, i would have thought i read at theee— see, i would have thought i read all these articles— see, i would have thought i read all these articles or— see, i would have thought i read all these articles or whatever ont— all these articles or whatever and tt— all these articles or whatever and tt eoye— all these articles or whatever and it says, oh,— all these articles or whatever and it says, oh, we have too muon— and it says, oh, we have too muoh meot. — and it says, oh, we have too much meat. it— and it says, oh, we have too much meat. it lies your gut, much meat. it lies in your gut,

tutt— much meat. it lies in your gut, tutt ot— much meat. it lies in your gut, full of chemicals— much meat. it lies in your gut, full of chemicals .— much meat. it lies in your gut, full of chemicals . everything's full of chemicals. everything's hot.— full of chemicals. everything's hut-tt— full of chemicals. everything's hotltt oome— full of chemicals. everything's bad.-it come as- full of chemicals. everything's bad.-it come as a- full of chemicals. everything's bad. it come as a surprise bad. did it come as a surprise to you— bad. did it come as a surprise to you because— bad. did it come as a surprise to you because you thought you tong— to you because you thought you were doing everything right? oh, oheotutety. — were doing everything right? oh, absolutely. ' gigt absolutely. absolutely. when i first reese, had to sort first met reese, i had to sort of explain my life, which was full of quite a lot of stress in one way or another. but then i thought as a saving grace , i thought as a saving grace, i said him, but look, i haven't said to him, but look, i haven't eaten meat for 40 years thinking he oh, well done, you. he would go, oh, well done, you. and he put his head in his hands and started think, and and started crying. i think, and said, there and buy some said, go out there and buy some steak. you know, you've got to you've got to get. why did you say that? a couple of reasons, reotty— say that? a couple of reasons, reotty. hut— say that? a couple of reasons, reuty. out the— se7 a couple of reasons, really. but the biggest one is there-e— really. but the biggest one is there-eltot— really. but the biggest one is there'sllot of— really. but the biggest one is there's lot of minerals that there's a lot of minerals that you— there's a lot of minerals that you ton-t— there's a lot of minerals that you ton-t get— there's a lot of minerals that you don't get when you don't eat meet.— you don't get when you don't eat meet-twe— you don't get when you don't eat meat.-like zinc,- meat. things like zinc, eeoeotuty— meat. things like zinc,- especially—means meat. things like zinc,- especially_means iron meat. things like zinc,- esp really _means iron meat. things like zinc,- esp really tricky-means iron meat. things like zinc, esp really tricky to means iron meat. things like zinc, esp really tricky to getneans iron meat. things like zinc, esp really tricky to get in ans iron are really tricky to get in vegetables.— vegetables. it's very interesting. “tit“ vegetables. it's very interesting. ti,“ g interesting. i'm on zinc supplements now because it just it's in body. it's non—existent in my body. you arnie exactly. it. yeah. you only you arnie exactly. it. yeah. you onty reuty— you arnie exactly. it. yeah. you onty reotty get— you arnie exactly. it. yeah. you onty reotty get tt— you arnie exactly. it. yeah. you only really get it from - t/tit. ti; htoetigy it. yeah. you only really get it from oysters ont— only really get it from oysters and ret— only really get it from oysters and red meat— only really get it from oysters and red meat .— only really get it from oysters and red meat . so— only really get it from oysters and red meat . so if you're, if and red meat. so if you're, if youe— and red meat. so if you're, if youre o— and red meat. so if you're, if you're a normal— and red meat. so if you're, if you're a normal erg , if you're you're a normal erg, if you're toottng— you're a normal erg, if you're toottng thoee— you're a normal erg, if you're lacking those and— you're a normal erg, if you're lacking those and you won't get it, lacking those and you won't get to out— lacking those and you won't get to hut t— lacking those and you won't get to hut t neon— lacking those and you won't get it, but i mean, we— lacking those and you won't get it, but i mean, we haven't got any— it, but i mean, we haven't got any tootore— it, but i mean, we haven't got any doctors represented here and

we ehoutt— any doctors represented here and we should stress— any doctors represented here and we should stress that whilst you did we should stress that whilst you no go— we should stress that whilst you no go hoot— we should stress that whilst you did go back onto— we should stress that whilst you did go back onto a— we should stress that whilst you did go back onto a meat eating oteo— did go back onto a meat eating otee-oteo— did go back onto a meat eating diet, also undergoing diet, you were also undergoing a mettoot— diet, you were also undergoing a mettou—heet medical treatment from the best cancer-in-country. i cancer hospital in the country. aheotutety. — cancer hospital in the country. aheotutety. so— cancer hospital in the country. absolutely. so you— cancer hospital in the country. absolutely. so you can't- absolutely. so you can't attribute of this to attribute all of this to changing your diet? no, no, i don't attribute— changing your diet? no, no, i don't attribute any— changing your diet? no, no, i don't attribute any of- changing your diet? no, no, i don't attribute any of it- don't attribute any of it ohongtng— don't attribute any of it changing diet. the doctors, changing my diet. the doctors, the tootore— changing my diet. the doctors, the doctors have— changing my diet. the doctors, the doctors have stopped the cancer chemotherapy so cancer with the chemotherapy so far. cancer with the chemotherapy so tu. ant— cancer with the chemotherapy so tu- ant hut— cancer with the chemotherapy so far. and but what— cancer with the chemotherapy so far. and but what what the work wtth — far. and but what what the work wtth tteeee— far. and but what what the work wtth tteeee te— far. and but what what the work with reese is, is— far. and but what what the work with reese is, is doing is retuotng— with reese is, is doing is reducing the— with reese is, is doing is reducing the effect of the chemotherapy— reducing the effect of the chemotherapy , which is a very chemotherapy, which is a very etrong— chemotherapy, which is a very strong, poisonous— chemotherapy, which is a very strong, poisonous drug at the ent— strong, poisonous drug at the end ot— strong, poisonous drug at the end ot the— strong, poisonous drug at the end of the day,— strong, poisonous drug at the end of the day, to put into your hoty— end of the day, to put into your hoty eyery— end of the day, to put into your body every fortnight and by ohongtng— body every fortnight and by ohongtng my— body every fortnight and by changing my diet and working in a gym — changing my diet and working in o gym to— changing my diet and working in o gym to outt— changing my diet and working in a gym to build some muscle , even a gym to build some muscle, even ot— a gym to build some muscle, even u my— a gym to build some muscle, even u my age— a gym to build some muscle, even u my oge .— a gym to build some muscle, even even at my age . and— a gym to build some muscle, even even at my age . and then he said even at my age. and then he said our even at my age. and then he said age.— even at my age. and then he said oge. hut— even at my age. and then he said our age. but that— even at my age. and then he said our age. but that would be untur— our age. but that would be untotr ot— our age. but that would be untotr u my— our age. but that would be unfair at my age, 69, now 69. or.— unfair at my age, 69, now 69. oh youy— unfair at my age, 69, now 69. oh. youy o— unfair at my age, 69, now 69. oh. youy o goou— unfair at my age, 69, now 69. oh, you've a good few- unfair at my age, 69, now 69. oh, you've a good few years on me . you're six ahead of me. me. you're six ahead of me. you're six ahead of me. but you look you look honestly fit and well and you're tanned and you're healthy and you've got obviously within you, you . you obviously within you, you. you obviously within you, you. you obviously exude this feeling of i may this beaten.

i think i may have this beaten. well, i, i only say that ortyotety— well, i, i only say that ortyotety .— well, i, i only say that privately , if- well, i, i only say that privately , if you like, because privately, if you like, because who— privately, if you like, because who mowe— privately, if you like, because who tnowe .— privately, if you like, because who knows . and— privately, if you like, because who knows . and certainly i think who knows. and certainly i think the you— who knows. and certainly i think the you toot— who knows. and certainly i think the you look well— who knows. and certainly i think the you look well the real the tootore— the you look well the real the tootore ue— the you look well the real the doctors are worried would never say doctors are worried would never eoy thu— doctors are worried would never eoy thu you— doctors are worried would never say that you know— doctors are worried would never say that you know you've always got to — say that you know you've always got to wort— say that you know you've always got to wort to— say that you know you've always got to work to keep— say that you know you've always got to work to keep up and work to keep— got to work to keep up and work to keep you— got to work to keep up and work to keep your strength up so that you— to keep your strength up so that your on— to keep your strength up so that your own sister— to keep your strength up so that your own sister ,_ to keep your strength up so that your own sister , um, can cope your own sister, um, can cope with— your own sister, um, can cope wtth eyerythtng— your own sister, um, can cope with everything that's going on. and with everything that's going on. ant tt-e— with everything that's going on. ant tt-e huet— with everything that's going on. and it's just about doing eyerythtng— and it's just about doing everything-to- and it's just about doing everything to can make it as everything you to can make it as good— everything you to can make it as good oe— everything you to can make it as good oe you— everything you to can make it as good oe you on— everything you to can make it as good as you can. and reese, what woutt— good as you can. and reese, what woutt he— good as you can. and reese, what would be-difference- good as you can. and reese, what would be difference between would be the difference between ootuuty— would be the difference between ootuotty ruet— would be the difference between actually just taking the supplements whilst you're going through— supplements whilst you're going througtthe— supplements whilst you're going througtthe-t— supplements whilst you're going througithe-i mean,- supplements whilst you're going througithe “ supplements whilst you're going througithe eating the meat? i mean, as a vegetarian, presumably he could have. did the past, have. maybe you did in the past, used some some zinc used to take some some zinc supplements. yeah, that's a good gueetton— supplements. yeah, that's a good gueetton. — supplements. yeah, that's a good gueetton. rte— supplements. yeah, that's a good question. it's very— supplements. yeah, that's a good question. it's very difficult to know how much to take, know just how much to take, especially with certain minerals when at zinc. all when you're looking at zinc. all minerals in pairs. so zinc minerals work in pairs. so zinc and copper, and and copper, potassium and sodium. take one of sodium. if you just take one of those minerals, you can up those minerals, you can end up depleting some of the others, especially like zinc. so especially things like zinc. so if high, you end if you zinc is too high, you end up depleting copper, you up depleting copper, which you need cells. so need for white blood cells. so that can cause other problems.

it's like how much do you actually take? if you get it actually take? and if you get it from food you're from a food source, you're almost impossible to go over the levels your body need levels that your body would need because would all because it would get rid of all the doesn't. so i'm the stuff. it doesn't. so i'm just interested _ the stuff. it doesn't. so i'm just interested to- the stuff. it doesn't. so i'm just interested to know- i 3 i so i'm just interested to know what you— just interested to know what your ohttoeoohy— just interested to know what your philosophy and your philosophy is. by and huge.— your philosophy is. by and large, reece,— your philosophy is. by and large, reece,-a- your philosophy is. by and large, reece, a gut large, reece, you're a gut heotth— large, reece, you're a gut health nutritionist and a and a oereonot— health nutritionist and a and a personal trainer.— health nutritionist and a and a personal trainer. what you personal trainer. what are you eoytng— personal trainer. what are you eoytng-who- personal trainer. what are you saying who would be saying to people who would be yegetorton — saying to people who would be vegetarian _think. vegetarian or vegan? i think youre— vegetarian or vegan? i think you-re-to— vegetarian or vegan? i think you're to missing out you're going to be missing out onltot— you're going to be missing out onltot ot— you're going to be missing out onllot of minerals- you're going to be missing out on lot of minerals and i think on a lot of minerals and i think temooruy— on a lot of minerals and i think temooruy athte— on a lot of minerals and i think temporary albie people can feel the—hue— temporary albie people can feel fine—havelstorel temporary albie people can feeli fine—havelstore of fine because you have a store of a fine because you have a store of oom-nether— fine because you have a store of a-minerals inside- fine because you have a store of a minerals inside your a lot of minerals inside your hoty— a lot of minerals inside your hoty-tonger- a lot of minerals inside your body,-longer you. a lot of minerals inside your body, longer you go body, but the longer you go wtthout— body, but the longer you go without minerals, the more without those minerals, the more orohteme— without those minerals, the more orohteme you— without those minerals, the more problems you start— without those minerals, the more problems you start to run into. so problems you start to run into. so-oon— problems you start to run into. so-oon toot— problems you start to run into. so-can feel great- so people can feel great initially that's generally so people can feel great initially they're t's generally so people can feel great initially they're eating erally because they're eating more vegetables, because vegetables, not because they're not as much meat. so when not eating as much meat. so when people switch from a normal meat eating more eating diet to eating more vegetables they don't vegetables because they don't have they have eat have the meat, they have to eat more generally more veggies, which generally makes but that makes you feel better, but that lack generally comes lack of meat generally comes back bite you a little bit back to bite you a little bit later on and you start to feel worse. start to feel lower worse. you start to feel lower in and not an in minerals and it's not an obvious thing that you relate to. a vegetarian, so i feel to. i'm a vegetarian, so i feel a more tired. i'm my skin's a lot more tired. i'm my skin's not dark. and this is one of

not as dark. and this is one of the things that nick has seen an improvement. you get and improvement. you get tanned and you tanned longer and you stay tanned longer and that's sign of health. so that's a good sign of health. so if gets get if you're somebody who gets get sun get sun exposure and you get burnt a lot, a bit a problem. lot, that's a bit of a problem. or you get tanned and then you lose it very quickly. those are not of health and not great signs of health and a lot of it down to your lot of it is down to your mineral status. wow. gosh, thot-e— mineral status. wow. gosh, that's-interesting.- mineral status. wow. gosh,| that's.interesting..you that's so interesting. do you mow.— that's so interesting. do youi know,_reminder know, there's just a reminder onoe—whot- know, there's just a reminder once _what in once again that what happens in the-toeen-t— once again that what happens in the-doesn't just- once again that what happens in the doesn't just affect the kitchen doesn't just affect you— the kitchen doesn't just affect. you—hut your physique, how you look, but ootuotty—ont- actually your health and therefore— actually your health and therefore it therefore your well—being. it he— therefore your well—being. it he whet— therefore your well—being. it can be what-in- therefore your well—being. it can be what in our can be what we put in our mouthe— mouths, poison our medicine. aheotutety. — absolutely. the most important ththg— absolutely. the most important thtng we— absolutely. the most important thtng we to— absolutely. the most important thing we do every— absolutely. the most important thing we do every single day. now.— thing we do every single day. uou-uo— thing we do every single day. uou-to tt— thing we do every single day. well,-do it so— thing we do every single day. well,-do it so many- thing we do every single day. well, you do it so many times, right? and i always tell right? and every i always tell who— right? and every i always tell wtot—etohl nick as soon as you're sick, eyery— nick as soon as you're sick, every mouthful— nick as soon as you're sick, every mouthful makes a difference. _ every mouthful makes a difference. kittie. every mouthful makes a- difference. _well, nick, difference. gosh. well, nick, i continue well, thank you. continue to be well, thank you. continue to do what you're doing. and interesting doing. and very interesting just raising subject, getting raising that subject, getting people about what people to think about what they eat and maybe you'll get in touch you touch with us and see if you would what reece is would say, support what reece is saying you find differently, saying or you find differently, let us know. yeah good luck with saying or you find differently, let rest now. yeah good luck with saying or you find differently, let rest of v. yeah good luck with saying or you find differently, let rest of yourih good luck with saying or you find differently, let rest of your treatment. with the rest of your treatment. nick. thank you. and thank you, tteeoe —wtth- nick. thank you. and thank you, reece. _with us. - reece. right. stay with us. wro-tt— reece. right. stay with us. wort—rust- reece. right. stay with us. wort—rust ol reece. right. stay with us. - we'll—just a moment we'll be asking in just a moment after was found liable for after he was found liable for sexual abuse, is donald trump's

2024 presidential bid over already ? but first, let's go to already? but first, let's go to atten— already? but first, let's go to atton nogee— 37 but first, let's go to aidan magee vaughn and your weather— aidan magee vaughn and your weather forecast _ aidan magee vaughn and your weather forecast . ti”y weather forecast. hello. very good— weather forecast. hello. very good morning to you. i'm aidan mcgivern with the latest gb news forecast from the met office some sunny spells, especially in the east this morning, but it's going to turn increasingly cloudy west with heavy cloudy from the west with heavy showers sing once again. showers start sing once again. now those showers are already with us in the west because we've got low pressure feeding and occluded front in further east. yesterday's heavy downpours have cleared out, but we've got more on the way for the rest of today. so cloudier conditions in the west slowly making their way eastwards and then showers just about possible anywhere into the afternoon, but particularly inland, particularly inland, particularly for central and eastern parts of england into central these showers central scotland. these showers where they do occur will be very lively. again some thunder, some hail in places, and they'll be slow moving . not everyone will slow moving. not everyone will catch a shower in between the showers, especially around coast. there'll be some sunshine and the and temperatures will reach the mid teens. drier towards

mid to high teens. drier towards the far north of scotland. but here there's lots of low cloud and mist and that's certainly affecting eastern and northern scotland during wednesday night. elsewhere some clear spells, but further showery rain will affect northern ireland, western scotland , western parts of scotland, western parts of england and wales. some more persistent possible in some persistent rain possible in some spots across northern ireland. and temperatures again dipping to around the mid to high single figures, 10 or 11 in 1 or 2 spots, but a generally cloudy start to thursday, particularly towards the west. the cloud and the showery rain will once again move east through the day and by the afternoon it's a mix of sunny spells and showers. once again, the showers will be hit and miss. they're not going to affect and affect everyone in and especially around coast. there will sunshine between will be some sunshine in between . temperatures reaching 17, perhaps 18 celsius. so a slight cooling trend later this week before those temperatures rise again into the weekend because from friday, especially in the north and into saturday across the whole of the uk , drier and

the whole of the uk, drier and sunnier weather is on the way. and as a result, temperatures will rise .

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well. donald trump's president final bid hangs in the balance as he's ordered to pay his sexual abuse. victim. five $5 million. as faux ooe. — victim. five $5 million. as faux ooe. hoot— victim. five $5 million. as faux pas. good morning— victim. five $5 million. as faux pas. good morning to- victim. five $5 million. as faux pas. i “g pas. good morning to you. welcome to the program. it's 8:00 on wednesday, the 10th of may or watching and listening to breakfast on gb news with eamonn holmes and isabel webster. very nice you on board nice to have you on board wherever you're- nice to have you on board wherever you're watching or ttetentng— wherever you're watching or listening leading the news listening from leading the news on-wyetneetoy— listening from leading the news on wednesday morning, a on this wednesday morning, a jury— on this wednesday morning, a rurylwew— on this wednesday morning, a rurylwew vort— on this wednesday morning, a jury new york has decided jury in new york has decided thu— jury in new york has decided that honut— jury in new york has decided that donald trump sexually ohueet— that donald trump sexually ohueet the— that donald trump sexually abused the writer e jean carroll in abused the writer e jean carroll tn the— abused the writer e jean carroll tn the thhhe— abused the writer e jean carroll in the 1990s, but— abused the writer e jean carroll in the 1990s, but rejected the otum— in the 1990s, but rejected the ototm thu— in the 1990s, but rejected the claim that he— in the 1990s, but rejected the claim that he raped her. tooottng— claim that he raped her. tooottng to— claim that he raped her. reacting to the- claim that he raped her. reacting to the verdict, trump called it part of the biggest witch of all time . the home witch hunt of all time. the home secretary has warned the house of lords not to defy the will of the british people as peers prepare to debate the illegal migration bill for the first time. her comments follow the urtyu— time. her comments follow the orrtyot ot— time. her comments follow the orrtyot ot o— time. her comments follow the arrival of a barge— time. her comments follow the arrival of a barge set- i her comments follow the arrival of a barge set to house oeytum— arrival of a barge set to house asylum seekers— arrival of a barge set to house asylum seekers in— arrival of a barge set to house asylum seekers in the uk . asylum seekers in the uk. the ooyommont— asylum seekers in the uk. the government was— asylum seekers in the uk. the government was right to hand police extra powers, says the

prime minister, as the backlash continues to the arrest of anti—monarchy protesters. it comes as the mayor of london tells the met to conduct a review of coronation policing and sir keir starmer has refused to rule out a coalition with the lib dems if labour failed to win a majority at the next election. despite major gains in the local eteottone— despite major gains in the local elections, pollsters are in touht— elections, pollsters are in touht-oon- elections, pollsters are ini doubt-can secure elections, pollsters are in- doubt-can secure an doubt the party can secure an oyerott— doubt the party can secure an overall majority— doubt the party can secure an overall majority .— doubt the party can secure an overall majority . arnie and overall majority. arnie and youye— overall majority. arnie and youe heeh— overall majority. arnie and you've been very , very good you've been very, very good tetttng— you've been very, very good talking about— you've been very, very good talking about this. this has got a talking about this. this has got u tot— talking about this. this has got u tot ot— talking about this. this has got u tot oh you— talking about this. this has got a lot of you going— talking about this. this has got a lot of you going and john, john— a lot of you going and john, rohn eoye— a lot of you going and john, rohn eoye toet— a lot of you going and john, john says last year's net mtgrotton— john says last year's net migration to— john says last year's net migration to this country was over 500,000.— migration to this country was over 500,000. now it's going to be over 500,000. now it's going to he oyer— over 500,000. now it's going to be over 650,000 _ over 500,000. now it's going to be over 650,000 this year. the oountry— be over 650,000 this year. the oountry oot— be over 650,000 this year. the country cannot sustain this mount— country cannot sustain this mount ot— country cannot sustain this amount of migration, so it toeen-t— amount of migration, so it doesn't matter— amount of migration, so it doesn't matter how much money you pump— doesn't matter how much money you oumo hto— doesn't matter how much money you oumo tnto the— doesn't matter how much money you pump into the nhs, education or houetng— you pump into the nhs, education or housing, we're— you pump into the nhs, education or housing, we're not going to be or housing, we're not going to he otte— or housing, we're not going to he ohte to— or housing, we're not going to be able to repair— or housing, we're not going to be able to repair our public eerytoee— be able to repair our public services with— be able to repair our public services with this amount of oeoote— services with this amount of oeoote oomtng— services with this amount of people coming in constant to eettte— people coming in constant to eettte . — people coming in constant to eettte . anu— people coming in constant to settle . and jeff— people coming in constant to settle . ' “t: �*tfytt“y 3“ i settle. and jeff says, why don't the government use one of these barges for home to home to house

army veterans who are having a hard time after years of service on the question that keir starmer answer, starmer won't answer, a coalition with the lib dems is a lib—lab coalition would be a disaster, says robert . they will disaster, says robert. they will follow disaster, says robert. they will tottow eyery— disaster, says robert. they will follow every woke— disaster, says robert. they will follow every woke diktat- t: 7 they will follow every woke diktat going net eo— follow every woke diktat going net zero would— follow every woke diktat going net zero would be brought torwuot— net zero would be brought forward. brexiteers would be hetroyet— forward. brexiteers would be hetroyet ont— forward. brexiteers would be betrayed and they take us back unter— betrayed and they take us back unter tu— betrayed and they take us back under eu rule.— betrayed and they take us back under eu rule. our borders will be under eu rule. our borders will he thrown— under eu rule. our borders will be thrown wide— under eu rule. our borders will be thrown wide open . so please be thrown wide open. so please do be thrown wide open. so please to tet— be thrown wide open. so please to tet ue— be thrown wide open. so please do let us know— be thrown wide open. so please do let us know your views whether— do let us know your views whether you— do let us know your views whether you agree with that or whether— whether you agree with that or whether you — whether you agree with that or whether you don't agree with that.— whether you don't agree with thu. john— whether you don't agree with that. john says— whether you don't agree with that. john says as much as i'm onnoyet— that. john says as much as i'm onnoyet wtth— that. john says as much as i'm annoyed with the— that. john says as much as i'm annoyed with the tories getting rid annoyed with the tories getting no ot— annoyed with the tories getting no ot hone.— annoyed with the tories getting rid of boris, if- annoyed with the tories getting rid of boris, if labour ends up hoytng— rid of boris, if labour ends up hoytnglto— rid of boris, if labour ends up hoytnglto o— rid of boris, if labour ends up having do a coalition deal having to do a coalition deal wtth— having to do a coalition deal wtth the— having to do a coalition deal with the-dems,- having to do a coalition deal with the dems, you can bet with the lib dems, you can bet you— with the lib dems, you can bet your the— with the lib dems, you can bet your ttte tt— with the lib dems, you can bet your life it-be_ with the lib dems, you can bet your life it-be the- with the lib dems, you can bet your life it be the reverse your life it will be the reverse hreytt— your life it will be the reverse hreytt-eton— your life it will be the reverse brexit start freedom of brexit and start freedom of movement people again . john movement of people again. john so movement of people again. john so u— movement of people again. john so u tot— movement of people again. john so u tot ot— movement of people again. john so u tot oh you— movement of people again. john so a lot of you as— movement of people again. john so a lot of you as to your theortee— so a lot of you as to your theories as— so a lot of you as to your theories as to _ so a lot of you as to your theories as to why keir starmer is theories as to why keir starmer te not— theories as to why keir starmer te not tetttng— theories as to why keir starmer is not talking about a pact with the th— is not talking about a pact with the no heme— is not talking about a pact with the no heme .— is not talking about a pact with the lib dems . oh,— is not talking about a pact with the lib dems . oh, and the lib dems. oh, and incidentally,- the lib dems. oh, and incidentally, something i nearly torgot— incidentally, something i nearly torgot .— incidentally, something i nearly torgot . on— incidentally, something i nearly torgot . oh yeah.— incidentally, something i nearly forgot . oh yeah, well , yeah, you forgot. oh yeah, well, yeah, you go tor— forgot. oh yeah, well, yeah, you go tor tt. — forgot. oh yeah, well, yeah, you go tor tt. weeh— forgot. oh yeah, well, yeah, you go for it. yeah. you— forgot. oh yeah, well, yeah, you go for it. t/tine“ t/tit. 3 go for it. yeah. you read that bit and then i'll read the bit about otherwise you have to about you. otherwise you have to

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after the verdict, trump took to hte eootot— after the verdict, trump took to his social media— after the verdict, trump took to his social media platform, truth sootot— his social media platform, truth sootot to— his social media platform, truth sootot to deny— his social media platform, truth social to deny he— his social media platform, truth social to deny he even knew cutou— social to deny he even knew ourott . — social to deny he even knew ourott . t— social to deny he even knew carroll . i have— social to deny he even knew carroll . gily social to deny he even knew carroll . carroll. i have absolutely no idea who this woman is. the verdict is a disgrace. a continued mission of the greatest witch hunt of all time . now, earlier we had an attorney— . now, earlier we had an attorney from _ now, earlier we had an attorney from the usa called etotto— attorney from the usa called gloria aldridge— attorney from the usa called gloria aldridge on the program . gloria aldridge on the program. you — gloria aldridge on the program. you sho— gloria aldridge on the program. you she tott— gloria aldridge on the program. yes. she told us— gloria aldridge on the program. yes. she told us that— gloria aldridge on the program. yes. she told us that trump's decision not to testify has hurt his chances of a better outcome. well it definitely is a victory for e! jean carroll and she otteget— for e! jean carroll and she alleged that— for e! jean carroll and she alleged that she- tt jean carroll and she alleged that she was raped. and though— alleged that she was raped. and even though the— alleged that she was raped. and even though the jury did not tht— even though the jury did not the th— even though the jury did not the tn the— even though the jury did not find in this civil- even though the jury did not find in this civil lawsuit that ehe— find in this civil lawsuit that ehe we— find in this civil lawsuit that ehe tn— find in this civil lawsuit that she was, in fact,— find in this civil lawsuit that she was, in fact, raped , instead she was, in fact, raped, instead ththg— she was, in fact, raped, instead ttnttng thu— she was, in fact, raped, instead finding that she— she was, in fact, raped, instead finding that she was sexually ohueet— finding that she was sexually ohueet .— finding that she was sexually ohueet . they— finding that she was sexually abused . they also did find that abused. they also did find that ehe— abused. they also did find that ehe we— abused. they also did find that she was defamed_ abused. they also did find that she was defamed and they found in she was defamed and they found tn toryou— she was defamed and they found tn toryou ot— she was defamed and they found in favour of her— she was defamed and they found in favour of her to— she was defamed and they found in favour of her to the extent of in favour of her to the extent oh oh— in favour of her to the extent of $5 million- in favour of her to the extent of $5 million in— in favour of her to the extent of $5 million in damages. she oenunty— of $5 million in damages. she was certainly helped by that access hollywood tape , which was access hollywood tape, which was otoyet — access hollywood tape, which was otoyet tor— access hollywood tape, which was otoyet tor the— access hollywood tape, which was otoyet tor the guy— access hollywood tape, which was

played for the jury and played for played for the jury and played tor honut— played for the jury and played for donald trump in his deposition.— for donald trump in his deposition. his deposition teettmony— deposition. his deposition testimony under oath before the thu— testimony under oath before the trtot .— testimony under oath before the trtot . ant— testimony under oath before the trtot . ant he— testimony under oath before the trial . and he was— testimony under oath before the trial . and he was asked about trial. and he was asked about thu— trial. and he was asked about that hy— trial. and he was asked about that hy ne— trial. and he was asked about that by ms carroll's attorney ont— that by ms carroll's attorney ont he— that by ms carroll's attorney and he stood— that by ms carroll's attorney and he stood his— that by ms carroll's attorney and he stood his ground on the aoeee— and he stood his ground on the access hollywood— and he stood his ground on the access hollywood tape and didn't try to— access hollywood tape and didn't try to get— access hollywood tape and didn't try to get out— access hollywood tape and didn't try to get out from _ access hollywood tape and didn't try to get out from under it, hoetouty— try to get out from under it, basically affirmed that he hetteyet— basically affirmed that he believed that— basically affirmed that he believed that if you're a star, you— believed that if you're a star, you know— believed that if you're a star, you know .— believed that if you're a star, you know . you— believed that if you're a star, you know , you can grab a woman you know, you can grab a woman by you know, you can grab a woman hy her— you know, you can grab a woman hy her genttu— you know, you can grab a woman by her genital area.— you know, you can grab a woman by her genital area. and of course , he used- by her genital area. and of course , he used a pejorative course, he used a pejorative term — course, he used a pejorative term tor— course, he used a pejorative term for that.— course, he used a pejorative term for that. so- course, he used a pejorative term for that. so he indicated, yes,— term for that. so he indicated, yee. hete— term for that. so he indicated, yee. me o— term for that. so he indicated, yee. me o etu— term for that. so he indicated, yes, he's a star. and i don't thtnt— yes, he's a star. and i don't thtnt thu— yes, he's a star. and i don't think that helped him with the guy.— think that helped him with the rury. ant— think that helped him with the rury. ant then— think that helped him with the jury. and then he— think that helped him with the jury. and then he didn't testify in jury. and then he didn't testify tn mont— jury. and then he didn't testify tn tront ot— jury. and then he didn't testify in front of the— jury. and then he didn't testify in front of the jury, which he tttn-t— in front of the jury, which he tttn-t hue— in front of the jury, which he didn't have to— in front of the jury, which he didn't have to do, but that woutt— didn't have to do, but that would have— didn't have to do, but that would have been a complete tteoeter— would have been a complete tteoeter tor— would have been a complete disaster for if— would have been a complete disaster for if he— would have been a complete disaster for if he had done that.— disaster for if he had done that, because— disaster for if he had done that, because as he can't help out— that, because as he can't help hut he.— that, because as he can't help but lie, that's— that, because as he can't help but lie, that's what he does . but lie, that's what he does. the— but lie, that's what he does. the attorney.— but lie, that's what he does. the attorney, gloria allred there. — the attorney, gloria allred there. meanwhile, the home secretary has warned the house of lords not to defy the will of

the british people, as those peers will debate the illegal migration bill for the first time today. sir, comments wrttten— time today. sir, comments wrttten tn— time today. sir, comments written in the— g sir, comments written in the telegraph, follow the urtyot— written in the telegraph, follow the arrival of— written in the telegraph, follow the arrival of a— written in the telegraph, follow the arrival of a barge set to houee— the arrival of a barge set to house hundreds— the arrival of a barge set to house hundreds of asylum seekers whye— house hundreds of asylum seekers he entered— house hundreds of asylum seekers who've entered the— house hundreds of asylum seekers who've entered the uk. let's eoeu—etttori who've entered the uk. let'si eoeu—etttor. speak to our political editor, huren— speak to our political editor, darren mccaffrey, joins us darren mccaffrey, who joins us the— darren mccaffrey, who joins us the-.— darren mccaffrey, who joins us thte-. toot.- darren mccaffrey, who joins us thte-. toot. t- darren mccaffrey, who joins us this . look, i suppose this morning. look, i suppose the— this morning. look, i suppose thte-wuntng— this morning. look, i suppose this-warning shot- this morning. look, i suppose this warning shot then from this is a warning shot then from the-seoretuy— this is a warning shot then from the-secretary to- this is a warning shot then from the secretary to peers in the home secretary to peers in the home secretary to peers in the totte— the home secretary to peers in the lords, amongst whom , of the lords, amongst whom, of course archbishop of course is the archbishop of conterhuy.— canterbury, pictured on the front— canterbury, pictured on the front-eye— canterbury, pictured on the front eye newspaper front of the eye newspaper yeetertoy. — front of the eye newspaper yeetertoy. tt— front of the eye newspaper yesterday. it was the king. toothy— yesterday. it was the king. toothy-the— yesterday. it was the king. today the archbishop of today it's the archbishop of conterhuy.— today it's the archbishop of canterbury, both them canterbury, both of them with orohteme— problems with this government's tmmtgrotton— problems with this government's tmmtgrotton .— problems with this government's immigration . bill— problems with this government's immigration. bill yeah, indeed. though— immigration. bill yeah, indeed. though we— immigration. bill yeah, indeed. though we must— immigration. bill yeah, indeed. though we must be— immigration. bill yeah, indeed. though we must be must- immigration. bill yeah, indeed. though we must be must make clear that the king's appearance when he was the prince of wales was with a previous migration bill introduced by the former prime minister boris johnson. but you're right, there is clearly disquiet within parliament, particularly in the house of lords, about this bill. we know that the opposition parties think it is immoral. we know that the opposition partide hink it is immoral. we know that the opposition partide not it is immoral. we know that the opposition partide not thinkimmoral. we know that the opposition partide not think it'sioral. we know that the opposition partide not think it's going to they do not think it's going to solve the problem of the small boats crisis in the english channel and they think that it does criminalise people who are

trying refuge in this trying to seek refuge in this country. however, what should be said is that the government farage hinckley do believe that this is necessary and as you say, they are going to have a barge now of weymouth, much opposed though by the local conservative mp and indeed by the council that could house up to 500 migrants on it. now they will still be able to go off that barge every day. they are free to move around. they are not prisoners. but this is the government's attempt to try and tackle growing of tackle those growing numbers of asylum this country asylum seekers in this country and migrants need and migrants who need accommodation. the effort of this bill in parliament is to try and deter people from coming here in the first place. as you say, it's to be in the say, it's going to be in the house of lords. expect it's house of lords. i expect it's going an awful lot of going be an awful lot of opposition, an opportunity for opposition in opposition to the bill. but in the actually it's probably the end, actually it's probably an argument the government's not afraid because they think an argument the government's not afraid got cause they think an argument the government's not afraid got public:hey think an argument the government's not afraid got public opinion|k an argument the government's not afraid got public opinion on they've got public opinion on their side. you know, they'll ugue—t- their side. you know, they'll ugue—t euo.- their side. you know, they'll argue,-i said, thei argue, in fact, as i said, the home— argue, in fact, as i said, the home secretary— argue, in fact, as i said, the home secretary has in home secretary has written in the— home secretary has written in thte—oteoe- home secretary has written in thte—oteoe tnl home secretary has written ini this—piece in the this piece, opinion piece in the neutron— this piece, opinion piece in the tetegrooh-they— this piece, opinion piece in the telegraph they have telegraph that they have a mandate—

telegraph that they have a mandate .this,- telegraph that they have a mandate this, reminding the mandate for this, reminding the totte— mandate for this, reminding the toue—hotht- mandate for this, reminding the torte—ootnt to- mandate for this, reminding the lords—point to thei lords of that they point to the toot— lords of that they point to the fact-taxpayers— lords of that they point to the fact taxpayers having fact that taxpayers are having to-extraordinary. to foot these extraordinary httte— to foot these extraordinary httte ont— to foot these extraordinary bills and also— to foot these extraordinary bills and also that it diminishes- bills and also that it diminishes the opportunity for genutne— diminishes the opportunity for genuine-seekers- diminishes the opportunity for genuine seekers who the genuine asylum seekers who the oountry— genuine asylum seekers who the oountry-o— genuine asylum seekers who the oountry-o otoue— genuine asylum seekers who the country a proud tradition country have a proud tradition of country have a proud tradition or hetotng— country have a proud tradition or hetotng. hut— country have a proud tradition of helping. but what will be the eoeottto—you- specific objections, do you thtnh— specific objections, do you thtnh-oeere- specific objections, do you think, peers will specific objections, do you. think,-peers will pick think, that the peers will pick notee— think, that the peers will pick hotee tn— think, that the peers will pick hotee tn ont— think, that the peers will pick holes in and possibly make amendments— holes in and possibly make amendments .— holes in and possibly make amendments . to kittie. amendments. to well, i think to amendments. to well, i think to a large degree, it's going to be based on this idea of the backlog that we're currently seeing in terms of asylum applications . we know that they applications. we know that they are running at record highs . are running at record highs. clearly also they think that this fundamentally criminalises migrants who've come here. now, the government would say that there are routes, there are means for people to seek access to the uk to seek asylum illegally, though many people, even within the conservative party, recognise there not party, recognise there are not many there are many of them, there are applicable to from applicable to people from afghanistan, places like afghanistan, from places like hong kong and ukraine, but not, for example , if you're coming for example, if you're coming from sudan and indeed from other war torn parts of the world. so

they clearly feel that there should be more routes, more accessible routes for people to arrive here in the uk . but as arrive here in the uk. but as i say, in the end, this is a kind of tussle that's going to go back and forth. i think the big question for the prime minister is even if this bill is passed and in the end i think it is because the commons will pass, it will it genuinely act as it is will it genuinely act as a deterrent? will it stop people from english from crossing the english channel arrive uk ? channel to arrive into the uk? will it frankly, as rishi sunak claims do, the claims it will do, stop the small because in the end, small boats because in the end, if doesn't, well, he could be if it doesn't, well, he could be in big trouble at the next general election. okay, darren, thonte— general election. okay, darren, thonte-muoh— general election. okay, darren, thonte-muoh .— general election. okay, darren, thanks-much . sunak- rgti i ti“ okay, darren, thanks much . sunak egypt thanks very much. sunak egypt wtth— thanks very much. sunak egypt wtth .— thanks very much. sunak egypt wtth . the— thanks very much. sunak egypt with . the placard— thanks very much. sunak egypt with . the placard behind darren. with. the placard behind darren. i with. the placard behind darren. t moon— with. the placard behind darren. t ogotn— with. the placard behind darren. t ogotn. t— with. the placard behind darren. i mean, again, i don't— with. the placard behind darren. i mean, again, i don't care- with. the placard behind darren. i mean, again, i don't care what your protesting about or who you're supporting and who you're not, but not on our patch. now i may i think i'd have turned around and taken his placard off him and broken it up or something i just think. but out

none of your business to be ruining our shot. absolutely. yeah.i ruining our shot. absolutely. yeah. i don't care what his protests about. it's just like this is where these new police powers should be brought in. or do you think that's a criminal offence? yeah, i do. i think he should be locked up. okay. put away somewhere. who's going to pay away somewhere. who's going to ooy tor— away somewhere. who's going to ooy tor htm — away somewhere. who's going to pay for him .prison?_ pay for him in prison? guantanamo- pay for him in prison? guantanamo bay. you would send him guantanamo bay. you would send htm there?— guantanamo bay. you would send him there? cost— guantanamo bay. you would send him there? cost than him there? cost more than eton etutent— him there? cost more than eton student-prison.— him there? cost more than eton student prison. somebody student to prison. somebody huet— student to prison. somebody tuetlwoutu— student to prison. somebody just-would be- student to prison. somebody just-would be worth- student to prison. somebody. just-would be worth it. but just. it would be worth it. but think of saddest faction. think of the saddest faction. whereas is, there's whereas whoever he is, there's obviously on obviously nothing going on in his life. he's another eejit his life. so he's another eejit that up in the morning. that wakes up in the morning. what am i to do? i'm going what am i going to do? i'm going to make a space for to make just make a space for them to go do it somewhere them to go and do it somewhere else. and i'm going else. yeah. and i'm going to jump else. yeah. and i'm going to jump of the tv cameras jump in front of the tv cameras and shake it all about it is a problem. well, well, anyway, onywoy— problem. well, well, anyway, onywoy. there— problem. well, well, anyway, anyway, there you— well, well, anyway, anyway, there you go. just my tet-e— anyway, there you go. just my view. let's turn— anyway, there you go. just my view. let's turn our- anyway, there you go. . let's turn our attention view. let's turn our attention to yet— view. let's turn our attention to yet another— . let's turn our attention to yet another phone hacking trtot—hute- trial involving the duke of sueee— trial involving the duke of sussex _today. l trial involving the duke of. sussex _today. yes. sussex beginning today. yes. sontwtohtng— sussex beginning today. yes. sandwiching a— sussex beginning today. yes. sandwiching a coronation? no. but sandwiching a coronation? no. hut-oue— sandwiching a coronation? no. hut-oue to— sandwiching a coronation? no. but due to attend, i but he is due to attend, i hetteye— but he is due to attend, i believe, next— but he is due to attend, i believe, next month . yeah. t/tit. believe, next month. yeah. you you— believe, next month. yeah. you you hoot— believe, next month. yeah. you you hoot-forth— believe, next month. yeah. you you back-forth .— believe, next month. yeah. you you back-forth . make- believe, next month. yeah. you you back forth . make up your you back and forth. make up your mind, harry. good for the planet . anyway he's suing mirror

. no. anyway he's suing mirror group. newspaper owners over whot— group. newspaper owners over whot hete— group. newspaper owners over what he's calling— cftit. newspaper owners over what he's calling unlawful information— what he's calling unlawful information gathering. let's go to tout— information gathering. let's go to paul hawkins,— information gathering. let's go to paul hawkins, who's at the htgh— to paul hawkins, who's at the htgh ooun— to paul hawkins, who's at the htgh ooun tor— to paul hawkins, who's at the high court for us— to paul hawkins, who's at the high court for us this morning, one— high court for us this morning, ont he— high court for us this morning, ont he wtt— high court for us this morning, and he will tell- high court for us this morning, and he will tell us more. paul, gooe— and he will tell us more. paul, goot momhg— and he will tell us more. paul, good morning to— and he will tell us more. paul, good morning to you . “tg good morning to you. morning, eamonn. yeah he is due to appear at this trial that's starting today. it's going to last for 6 today. it's going to last for 6 to 7 weeks. and when he does appean to 7 weeks. and when he does appear, that will be a box office moment because he'll become the first senior royal to appearin become the first senior royal to appear in a courtroom give appear in a courtroom to give evidence since the 19th century. but essentially , at the heart of but essentially, at the heart of this, his case is being heard alongside a number of other celebrities. his the former footballer ian wright, for example , the singer cheryl cole, example, the singer cheryl cole, lawyers representing the estate of the late great george michael and their case centres around allegations of obtaining information illegally to write stories about them from the mid 90s up till 2011 when now we should add that they're going to produce their lawyers are going to produce evidence obtained by

some whistleblowers. there will be receipts from private investigators and phone records etcetera. and now mirror group, who owned the daily mirror , the who owned the daily mirror, the sunday mirror and the sunday people , they have made limited people, they have made limited admission in the past that there was some phone hacking at their group, that some stories were written, that information may have been obtained illegally and they've to pay out hundreds they've had to pay out hundreds of in of thousands of pounds in compensation. but in terms of these saying compensation. but in terms of thestin saying compensation. but in terms of thestin some saying compensation. but in terms of thestin some of saying compensation. but in terms of thestin some of the saying compensation. but in terms of thestin some of the claimants that in some of the claimants cases, they've brought too cases, they've been brought too late. in cases such as prince harry's, there was no illegal obtaining information. but at obtaining of information. but at the this will what the heart of this will be what executives the paper and executives at the paper and editors and the editor of editors knew and the editor of the daily mirror between 1995 and 2004 was piers morgan. so expect to hear his name mentioned a lot the next 6 mentioned a lot over the next 6 to 7 weeks. okay, paul , thank to 7 weeks. okay, paul, thank you very much indeed . hello. you very much indeed. hello. dean deans in i“ 3: hello. dean deans in northamptonshire. i dean deans in northamptonshire. t ogree— dean deans in northamptonshire. t ogree wtth— dean deans in northamptonshire. i agree with eamonn. now, these are i agree with eamonn. now, these the— i agree with eamonn. now, these the noted— i agree with eamonn. now, these are the words, these are one, uh.— are the words, these are one, two. three. — are the words, these are one, two, three, four— are the words, these are one, two, three, four words that i toye — two, three, four words that i toye heortng— two, three, four words that i love hearing on— two, three, four words that i love hearing on the programme. i ogree—

love hearing on the programme. i ogree wtth— love hearing on the programme. i agree with eamonn. t/tit. agree with eamonn. you know, once you've got it like a police state where no one's allowed to be arrested, you could be a dictator. there could be where eyeoryne— dictator. there could be where eeorye eoye— dictator. there could be where eeorye eoyelo— t: i there could be where everyone says, a benign everyone says, be a benign ttototor. — everyone says, be a benigni dictator._benign everyone says, be a benign- dictator._benign one. dictator. would you? benign one. heoote—they-t- dictator. would you? benign one. people _they'd say,- people would like they'd say, unote— people would like they'd say, uncle eamonn— people would like they'd say, uncle eamonn has decided we're tong— uncle eamonn has decided we're totng-tt-e— uncle eamonn has decided we're totng-tt-e the- uncle eamonn has decided we're doing-it's the right- doing this and it's the right ththg— doing this and it's the right thtng . — doing this and it's the right thtng. |ogroo— doing this and it's the right thing . iagree with- doing this and it's the right thing . retg”ti;ti doing this and it's the right- thing . iagree with eamonn. all thing. i agree with eamonn. all those lovely, decent people went down to london, some camped out for 2 or 3 nights to witness a once in a lifetime event, a proper bit of pomp. why should their dares be spoilt by a bunch of self—righteous who obviously have nothing better to do disrupt other people's lives? well done. the police. yeah. i don't disagree with all the arrests. i disagree with ureettng— i disagree with arresting someone just because they-ye— arresting someone just because they-ye eteooet— arresting someone just because they've stepped outside their toot— they've stepped outside their door ont— they've stepped outside their door and they're— they've stepped outside their door and they're affiliated with a door and they're affiliated with o grouo. — door and they're affiliated with o group. you.— door and they're affiliated with o group. you. t— door and they're affiliated with a group. well, i would have arrested that man with a placard today. well, he already today. well, he was already oroteettng— today. well, he was already protesting,-was- 3 well, he was already protesting, was doing protesting, so he was doing eomethtng— protesting, so he was doing- something-disruptive. something that was disruptive. but something that was disruptive. hut-not— something that was disruptive. but-not pre—emptivelyl but if you're not pre—emptively arresting someone before they've done you find done anything, do you not find j'oy done anything, do you not find joy in that? why can you joy and fun in that? why can you not? why? i'm a huge- e“t3 ._. “ se7 why can you not? �*tfytt“y7’ i'm a huge royalist. not? why? i'm a huge royalist. my not? why? i'm a huge royalist. thy tomtty— not? why? i'm a huge royalist. thy tomtty wee— not? why? i'm a huge royalist. my family were there- not? �*tfytt“y7’ i'm a huge royalist. my family were there and i

reotty— my family were there and i reotty wont— my family were there and i really want to _ my family were there and i really want to keep the monuohy. — really want to keep the monarchy. but i was police monarchy. but i was a police otttoer— monarchy. but i was a police otttoer tn— monarchy. but i was a police officer in lfree_ monarchy. but i was a police officer in free country. officer in a free country. i woutu— officer in a free country. i woutu ho— officer in a free country. i would be saying,- officer in a free country. i would be saying, i'm- officer in a free country. i would be saying, i'm having you. i'm going to arrest you. i'd onot— i'm going to arrest you. i'd onot you. — i'm going to arrest you. i'd arrest you. you'd- i'm going to arrest you. t: you'd be arrest you. you'd be a ntghtmue— you'd be a nightmare. police officer. arrest you. you'd be a- nightmare. police officer. i'd onot— nightmare. police officer. i'd onot you.— nightmare. police officer. i'd onot you. to— nightmare. police officer. i'd arrest you, i'd arrest- nightmare. police officer. t: nightmare. police officer. i'd arrest you, i'd arrest you, too. iused arrest you, i'd arrest you, too. i used to be a prefect at school. i was head girl. it was a trump. you this is ridiculous. these umbrellas that you these fold up umbrellas that you could use as batons . oh, my could use as batons. oh, my gosh. but. but it was gosh. but it was good. could use as batons. oh, my- gosh. but. but it was good. you hoop— gosh. but. but it was good. you can keep your baton to yourself. it's very good fun. so anyway , it's very good fun. so anyway, toot— it's very good fun. so anyway, lock them all up. no. well, anyway , suddenly- lock them all up. no. well, anyway , suddenly we- i l. no. well, anyway , suddenly we have to anyway, suddenly we have to detent— anyway, suddenly we have to tetent the— anyway, suddenly we have to defend the protesters right to tree— defend the protesters right to tree eoeeoh— defend the protesters right to free speech in— defend the protesters right to free speech in their opinions. unfortunately,— free speech in their opinions. unfortunately, my right to ohteot— unfortunately, my right to object behaviour, in unfortunately, my right to- object-behaviour, in my object to their behaviour, in my ootnton— object to their behaviour, in my ootntonlnot— object to their behaviour, in my opinion,.not so— object to their behaviour, in my opinion, not so well defended opinion, is not so well defended by opinion, is not so well defended hy—tree— opinion, is not so well defended hy—tree eoeeoh- opinion, is not so well defended by _free speech in. by the wokerati free speech in hrttotn— by the wokerati free speech in hrttotn-he- by the wokerati free speech in britain-belone- by the wokerati free speech in britain be one way britain seems to be a one way etreet— britain seems to be a one way etreet oe— britain seems to be a one way street as well,— britain seems to be a one way street as well, and— britain seems to be a one way street as well, and that one way etreet— street as well, and that one way etreet teote— street as well, and that one way street leads us— street as well, and that one way street leads us to— street as well, and that one way street leads us to 8:16. ' “t: street leads us to 8:16. and here— street leads us to 8:16. and hero to— street leads us to 8:16. and hero to tho— street leads us to 8:16. and here is the rest— street leads us to 8:16. and here is the rest of today's top stories. as beginning with the first baby with dna from three people has been born in the uk following a special ivf procedure. the treatment aims to prevent the passing of defective

genes from mothers by giving the baby dna from its mother, father and another female donor. parts of england have been hit by hail storms. heavy rain and thunder wtth— storms. heavy rain and thunder wtth yettow— storms. heavy rain and thunder with yellow weather— heavy rain and thunder with yellow weather warnings in otooe— with yellow weather warnings in otooe unttt— with yellow weather warnings in otooe unttt rh— with yellow weather warnings in place until 10 p.m._ with yellow weather warnings in place until 10 pm. the met place until 10 p.m. the met outoe— place until 10 pm. the met htttoe eoye— place until 10 pm. the met office says heavy showers with the net— office says heavy showers with the risk-thunder— office says heavy showers with the risk thunder and hail the risk of thunder and hail wtt— the risk of thunder and hail wttt oeretet— the risk of thunder and hail will persist over— the risk of thunder and hail will persist over the next two toye. — will persist over the next two toye. ureth— will persist over the next two days. well, this— will persist over the next two days. well, this is very bad tho— days. well, this is very bad news. the irish- days. well, this is very bad news. ” days. well, this is very bad news. days. well, this is very bad- news. the irish band wild youth has failed to qualify for the eurovision final in liverpool. the dublin band was amongst the five that were knocked out five acts that were knocked out in the first live semi—final off the week. and one of the reasons thatis the week. and one of the reasons that is such bad news is we have the in 1970, dana , the irish winner in 1970, dana, with all kinds of everything in the studio. she's going to be live with us this morning . and live with us this morning. and we can't even heal a sort of irish regression , even in irish regression, even in eurovision. it's not the way it used to be. it's all over. it's all over. but anyway, dana . up

all over. but anyway, dana. up next, two wonder goals and one controversial decision we'll have all the drama from the champions league with aidan magee next. i'm just getting the worth— magee next. i'm just getting the worte ot— magee next. i'm just getting the worte ot ott— magee next. i'm just getting the words of all kinds— magee next. i'm just getting the words of all kinds of— .tt�*~tt.retgti;ti “tixi i'm just getting the words of all kinds of everything up here— words of all kinds of everything up here oe— words of all kinds of everything up here as well. _ words of all kinds of everything up here as well. “tiy .. up here as well. they'll be worth. i'll sing that to you later .

welcome back . it's 821. still i i it's 821. still to welcome back. it's 821. still to come on today's— i i it's 821. still to come on today's program, as retont— come on today's program, as ireland failed— come on today's program, as ireland failed to— come on today's program, as ireland failed to make it to the tuoyteton— ireland failed to make it to the eurovision final,— ireland failed to make it to the eurovision final, we're going to eoeot— eurovision final, we're going to eoeot to— eurovision final, we're going to speak to donna,— eurovision final, we're going to speak to donna, who won the oonteet— speak to donna, who won the oonteet huet— speak to donna, who won the contest just for— speak to donna, who won the contest just for her country hoot— contest just for her country hoot tn— contest just for her country back in 1970. _ contest just for her country back in 1970. i- contest just for her country back in 1970. i was only, what, nine years of age and then she went on to become the president of ireland . after that, just of ireland. after that, just yeah. candidate for presidency. i yeah. candidate for presidency. t thtnt— yeah. candidate for presidency. t thtnt .— yeah. candidate for presidency. ithink . yeah. - yeah. candidate for presidency. i think . yeah. no,— ytine“ candidate for presidency. i think . yeah. htit “

nearly came back to the singing ont— nearly came back to the singing ont wotttng— nearly came back to the singing ont wotttng ot— nearly came back to the singing and wailing of the— nearly came back to the singing and wailing of the 17 year old. anywoy— and wailing of the 17 year old. anywoy. ott— and wailing of the 17 year old. anyway, all kinds— and wailing of the 17 year old. anyway, all kinds of everything remtnt— anyway, all kinds of everything remtnt me— anyway, all kinds of everything remtnt me ot— anyway, all kinds of everything remind me of you— anyway, all kinds of everything remind me of you . just after remind me of you. just after mne— remind me of you. just after wett— remind me of you. just after nine, we'll be— remind me of you. just after nine, we'll be asking labour if they— nine, we'll be asking labour if they wtt— nine, we'll be asking labour if they will rule _ nine, we'll be asking labour if they will rule out— nine, we'll be asking labour if they will rule out forming a oootttton— they will rule out forming a coalition with— they will rule out forming a coalition with the liberal democrats. _ coalition with the liberal democrats. yesterday sir keir stormer— democrats. yesterday sir keir stormer oe— democrats. yesterday sir keir starmer was dodging the question . ton— starmer was dodging the question . ton ue— starmer was dodging the question . ton yye wtth— starmer was dodging the question . ton yye wttttry— starmer was dodging the question . ian we will try and pin them town— . ian we will try and pin them town on— . ian we will try and pin them town on t. — . ian we will try and pin them down on it. yes,— . ian we will try and pin them down on it. yes, i— . ian we will try and pin them down on it. “titer “1 down on it. yes, i think you think he's a jammy dodger. you're you're spotted him well and truly. and you're accusing him. dodge. dodge dodge, dodge, dodge. that's what you think. okay. vaiews@gbnews.uk. you can tweet at gb. i've got a lib dem tie on today. it's just a yellow tie on today. it's just a yellow tte .— tie on today. it's just a yellow tte . they— tie on today. it's just a yellow tte . they ton-t— tie on today. it's just a yellow tie . they don't get— tie on today. it's just a yellow tie . they don't get to- i ti; ti“ 3 it's just a yellow tie . they don't get to claim the tie. they don't get to claim the out— tie. they don't get to claim the ooout uh.— tie. they don't get to claim the colour .uk. well,— tie. they don't get to claim the colour .uk. well, i'm just. uou.— colour .uk. well, i'm just. when. whot— colour .uk. well, i'm just. well, what am— colour .uk. well, i'm just. well, what am i— colour .uk. well, i'm just. well, what am i anyway? it's just just coincidental . it's just just coincidental. it's a yellow tie today. you could be in yellow tie today. you could be tn the— yellow tie today. you could be in the coalition.— yellow tie today. you could be in the coalition. you- 3 you could be in the coalition. you could be the— in the coalition. you could be the dictator,— in the coalition. you could be the dictator, could be in jail if the dictator, could be in jail tt you— the dictator, could be in jail tt you not— the dictator, could be in jail if you had your— the dictator, could be in jail if you had your jail. a lot of them.— if you had your jail. a lot of them. wee.— if you had your jail. a lot of them. tee. — if you had your jail. a lot of them, yes. right- if you had your jail. a lot of them, yes. ?g“ i“ if you had your jail. a lot of them, yes. 3tg“ “tg them, yes. right on the sting. back pages shape up like this

this morning dominated , of this morning dominated, of course, by the champions league match last night. it's a piece after two wonder goals were scored in manchester city's champions league semi—final , nil champions league semi—final, nil against real madrid . the i against real madrid. the i celebrates king kevin for his man of the match display and the mail says iron brew with pep guardiola claiming the performance has given city the belief they needed to win the tournament. joining me now in studio aidan magee with his take on things and there's a lot to be said here that it was an away draw, which means the second leg is going to be at the etihad in manchester and that has got to be good news for city. yeah, i think be good news for city. yeah, i thtnt thot-e— be good news for city. yeah, i think that's the - g: ti. iy yeah, i think that's the difference from trom — think that's the difference from trom toet— think that's the difference from from last year,— think that's the difference from from last year, it— think that's the difference from from last year, it was a reverse ettuotton— from last year, it was a reverse ettuotton. toet— from last year, it was a reverse situation. last year, the first muoh— situation. last year, the first motoh oe— situation. last year, the first match was played at the etihad. tteot— match was played at the etihad. tteot notht— match was played at the etihad. real madrid scored three goals ont— real madrid scored three goals onot-tt— real madrid scored three goals ont-tt tett— real madrid scored three goals and.it fell-for- real madrid scored three goals and-it fell-for city. and then it fell apart for city toter— and then it fell apart for city later-different- and then it fell apart for city later different time we later on. different this time we etonet—toet- later on. different this time wei started—last night. started the bernabeu last night. very—woye- started the bernabeu last night. very—woye toetl very cagey in some ways last htght.— very cagey in some ways last night,-tactical,- very cagey in some ways last night,-tactical, a- very cagey in some ways last night, tactical, a little night, very tactical, a little bit defensive _ night, very tactical, a little bit defensive at— night, very tactical, a little bit defensive at but two bit defensive at times, but two

hrttttont— brilliant goals, huge disappointment from carlo anoetottt— disappointment from carlo ancelotti that _ disappointment from carlo ancelotti that the var wasn't ooneuttet— ancelotti that the var wasn't consulted because he felt that hernorto— consulted because he felt that bernardo silva— consulted because he felt that bernardo silva had carried the hou— bernardo silva had carried the hott out— bernardo silva had carried the hott out ot— bernardo silva had carried the ball out of play— bernardo silva had carried the ball out of play setting ball out of play before setting up ball out of play before setting up_yu- ball out of play before setting uo—you know- ball out of play before setting- up _you know what? up his goal. but you know what? when— up his goal. but you know what? when ooooto— up his goal. but you know what? when people-expecting- when people were expecting a gunslinging going toe to gunslinging match going toe to toe, it was never going to be like that. this is not just top teyet— like that. this is not just top level european— c this is not just top level european football aim and this level european football aim and thte te— level european football aim and thte te too— level european football aim and this is top _world - this is top level world football. - this is top level world football. some this is top level world football. _some the football. there's some of the heet— football. there's some of the best collection _ football. there's some of the best collection footballers best collection of footballers onon— thot- best collection of footballers on_on that pitch.| on the planet on that pitch. toet— on the planet on that pitch. toet htght.— on the planet on that pitch. last night. it— on the planet on that pitch. last night. it was a decent, teoent—t- last night. it was a decent, decent—i think| last night. it was a decent,- decent_| think city decent contest, but i think city wtt— decent contest, but i think city wttt hoye— decent contest, but i think city will have the— decent contest, but i think city will have the edge in the second leg will have the edge in the second reg-tte— will have the edge in the second reg-tt-elthe- will have the edge in the second leg-it'slthe etihad. leg because it's at the etihad as.mentioned._ leg because it's at the etihad as mentioned. don't rule as we mentioned. but don't rule out as we mentioned. but don't rule tote—- out real madrid. we saw last ntght— out real madrid. we saw last night vinicius,_ out real madrid. we saw last night vinicius, junior, junior muet— night vinicius, junior, junior muet-the- night vinicius, junior, junior must _the best. night vinicius, junior, junior must-the best 2. night vinicius, junior, juniori must-the best 2 or must be one of the best 2 or 3 otoyere— must be one of the best 2 or 3 otoyere tn— must be one of the best 2 or 3 otoyere tn the— must be one of the best 2 or 3 players in the world right now. ant— players in the world right now. ant hete— players in the world right now. ant he-e gotng— players in the world right now. and he's going better and and he's going to get better and hetter.— and he's going to get better and hetter-onw— and he's going to get better and hetter-onty yery— and he's going to get better and better. only very young better. he's only very young hrozttton— better. he's only very young brazilian national. you've got eomeo—n brazilian national. you've gotj eomeo— otty some serious guns on on city etote— some serious guns on on city ette oe— some serious guns on on city ette oe wett— some serious guns on on city side as well. de— some serious guns on on city side as well. de bruyne, of course, a brilliant goal, course, scored a brilliant goal, two— course, scored a brilliant goal, two excellent— course, scored a brilliant goal, two excellent well, you two excellent goals as well, you hoye— two excellent goals as well, you hoyeleoy. — two excellent goals as well, you hoyeleoy. the— two excellent goals as well, you have say. the quality have to say. the quality of mu.— have to say. the quality of mu. ant— have to say. the quality of that. and .say, - have to say. the quality of that. and-say, i- have to say. the quality of that. and say, i think the that. and as i say, i think the ot— that. and as i say, i think the winner of this— that. and as i say, i think the winner of this match is going to ne-e gotng— winner of this match is going to come. he's going to go on and win:— come. he's going to go on and wh— come. he's going to go on and wtn the— come. he's going to go on and win, win the european or the chomotone— win, win the european or the champions league. don't think champions league. i don't think there-e— champions league. i don't think theee—ohout- champions league. i don't think there's-about that. l there's any doubt about that. weoh. — there's any doubt about that. weoh. otu.— there's any doubt about that. yeah. okay. we've- there's any doubt about that. yeah. tgtit i

there's any doubt about that. yeah. tgtit yeah. okay. we've got a bit of transfer news just and i think a lot of concerning declan rice lot of it concerning declan rice at ham. yeah, he's been at west ham. yeah, he's been tott— at west ham. yeah, he's been tort-meet— at west ham. yeah, he's been told .west ham _ at west ham. yeah, he's been. told-west ham-understand told by west ham we understand not— told by west ham we understand thot—etont— told by west ham we understand thot—etont tn- told by west ham we understand that—stand in the- told by west ham we understand that stand in the way that they won't stand in the way of that they won't stand in the way ot o— that they won't stand in the way ot o ohomotone— that they won't stand in the way of a champions-bid- that they won't stand in the way of a champions bid of of a champions league bid of uourt— of a champions league bid of uount aho— of a champions league bid of around £120 million. they might toot— around £120 million. they might toot-tong— around £120 million. they might look-doing-where. look into doing a deal where they—ont- look into doing a deal where. they—onot rho. look into doing a deal where- they_and 100. in they get between 80 and 100. in eyohonge— they get between 80 and 100. in exchange .another_ they get between 80 and 100. in exchange another player exchange for another player oomtng— exchange for another player coming—other. exchange for another player. coming—other way. coming coming the other way. now:— coming coming the other way. how. areenot— coming coming the other way. now, arsenal would the now, arsenal would be the ohytoue— now, arsenal would be thei obvious—him now, arsenal would be the. obvious—him at obvious destination for him at the—eue- obvious destination for him at. the—eue they-re the moment. i'm not sure they're eue—xhoto- the moment. i'm not sure they're sure—xhaka long- sure about granit xhaka long term— sure about granit xhaka long term because— sure about granit xhaka long term because he's kind of otyonotng— term because he's kind of advancing in— term because he's kind of advancing in years. he may want to-eomewhere— advancing in years. he may want to somewhere maybe to play somewhere else. maybe hete— to play somewhere else. maybe he's-solution— to play somewhere else. maybe he's-solution to— to play somewhere else. maybe he's solution to getting he's the solution to getting him to—ont— he's the solution to getting him to—ont moyhe- he's the solution to getting him to and maybe getting to west ham and maybe getting rice to west ham and maybe getting hoe-wow— to west ham and maybe getting rtoe-woy. hut— to west ham and maybe getting rice way, but superb rice the other way, but superb huetneee— rice the other way, but superb business—ham - rice the other way, but superb business_ ham the business from west ham over the yee— business from west ham over the yeueneonl— business from west ham over the yeue|men they— business from west ham over the years. mean, they took him years. i mean, they took him trom— years. i mean, they took him tromwo—e from chelsea's academy was eurotue— from chelsea's academy was surplus requirements. they're from chelsea's academy was surpl|friendsquirements. they're from chelsea's academy was surpl|friends with ments. they're from chelsea's academy was surpl|friends withments. mount great friends with mason mount his great friends with mason mount hte tngtont— great friends with mason mount his england team—mate and i. i thet— his england team—mate and i. i met-htm— his england team—mate and i. i ttret-htm otoy— his england team—mate and i. i first-him play as— his england team—mate and i. i first-him play as a- his england team—mate and i. i first him play as a centre first saw him play as a centre hoot— first saw him play as a centre hoot-tn— first saw him play as a centre hoot-tn hote— first saw him play as a centre back-in 2018 and- first saw him play as a centre back in 2018 and he's back back in 2018 and he's morohet— back back in 2018 and he's morphed midfielder back back in 2018 and he's- morphed-midfielder who morphed into this midfielder who can morphed into this midfielder who oonoeo—t- morphed into this midfielder who can—also maraudi can play deep, but also maraud torwut— can play deep, but also maraud torwut oe— can play deep, but also maraud forward as well. _ can play deep, but also maraud forward as well. he's a mainstay on oueth— forward as well. he's a mainstay on gareth southgate's england teomeheet—t- on gareth southgate's englandi teamsheet_| mean on gareth southgate's england. teamsheet_| mean if teamsheet as well. but i mean if they— teamsheet as well. but i mean if they get— teamsheet as well. but i mean if they get-million— teamsheet as well. but i mean if they get million him, they get £120 million for him, i play— they get £120 million for him, i otoy oe— they get £120 million for him, i play was discarded by a rival otuh— play was discarded by a rival club-fantastic- play was discarded by a rival club. fantastic business. club. that's fantastic business. ant—wont- and they won't they won't stand in and they won't they won't stand tn-thte— and they won't they won't stand tn-thte te— and they won't they won't stand tn-thte te the- and they won't they won't stand in _this is the time. in their way. this is the time is in their way. this is the time te rtght. — in their way. this is the time is right. well,- in their way. this is the time is right. rottiii 3 in their way. this is the time is right. kittie. 3 i in their way. this is the time is right. rottiii 3 i is right. well, would it be out of the question if chelsea come

back in and reclaimed him? i think think chelsea's problem thin summer chelsea's problem thin summer is|elsea's problem thin summer is goings problem thin summer is goings pbe lem this summer is going to be remoytng— this summer is going to be removing players. it's going to be removing players. it's going to he gettthg— removing players. it's going to be getting players on the list. they-ye—they-ye they've bought so many they've erent— they've bought so many they've eoentlmuoh— they've bought so many they've spent much money. they spent so much money. they don't wont— spent so much money. they don't wont-tott— spent so much money. they don't want-fall-further- spent so much money. they don't want-fall-further of- want to fall foul further of ttnonotot— want to fall foul further of financial fair— want to fall foul further of financial fair- i - want to fall foul further of financial fair i think financial fair play, i think hete— financial fair play, i think nee—t- financial fair play, i think he-e—t meoni he's more likely. i mean, cheteeo— he's more likely. i mean, chelsea-been- he's more likely. i mean, chelsea been linked with chelsea have been linked with htm—oyer- chelsea have been linked with htm—oyer the| him plenty of times over the toet— him plenty of times over the toet-yeue. — him plenty of times over the toet-yeue. t— him plenty of times over the last years. i think it's last two years. i think it's tttety— last two years. i think it's more likely to _ last two years. i think it's more likely to go to manchester unnee— more likely to go to manchester unttet. hut— more likely to go to manchester united, but they've signed ooetmtro— united, but they've signed casimiro-long- united, but they've signed casimiro-long deal. casimiro on this long term deal. hete— casimiro on this long term deal. nee—gooe— casimiro on this long term deal. he's—good season.- he's had a very good season. i thtnt— he's had a very good season. i think arsenal's— he's had a very good season. i think arsenal's priority is retuotng— think arsenal's priority is reducing-age- think arsenal's priority is reducing age of some key reducing the age of some key ueoe-eguot- reducing the age of some key areas-squad and- reducing the age of some key areas squad and he areas of their squad and he mtght— areas of their squad and he mtght-there- might fit in there well. atthough— might fit in there well. although can't, cannot although i can't, i cannot thtnh— although i can't, i cannot think,.that- think, not that it's a particularly- think, not that it's a particularly difficult move. i oonnot— particularly difficult move. i cannot think— particularly difficult move. i cannot think of— particularly difficult move. i cannot think of a time in my tttettme— cannot think of a time in my lifetime - ham - cannot think of a time in my lifetime-ham sold lifetime and west ham have sold a lifetime and west ham have sold o otoyer— lifetime and west ham have sold a player-arsenal. _ lifetime and west ham have sold a player arsenal. ' “t: a player to arsenal. okay. and 1st a player to arsenal. okay. and tet-o— a player to arsenal. okay. and 1st a big date the 1st of july, a big date in the boxing calendar. yes, absolutely. i “g i 3 yes, absolutely. i mean, liam boxing calendar. yes,- absolutely. i mean, liam smith etoooet—rr- absolutely. i mean, liam smith etoooet—rr hootl absolutely. i mean, liam smithi stopped _jr back in stopped chris eubank jr back in ronuuy. — january. it was a bit of a eurortee— january. it was a bit of a surprise result,- january. it was a bit of a surprise result, but he's been hoytng— surprise result, but he's been hung—hoot- surprise result, but he's been having back injury. having a nagging back injury. thet— having a nagging back injury. first—initiatedl having a nagging back injury. firactivated initiated having a nagging back injury. firactivated the initiated having a nagging back injury. firactivated the rematch ted or activated the rematch clause. i or activated the rematch clause. t-thte— or activated the rematch clause. t-thte thte— or activated the rematch clause. i-this, this, this- or activated the rematch clause. i this, this, this fight i mean this, this, this fight reotty— i mean this, this, this fight reotty went— i mean this, this, this fight really went ahead the really went ahead because the the— really went ahead because the tho-woe— really went ahead because the kind-was was- really went ahead because the kind was was scuppered kind of fight was was scuppered hoot—woel back in the autumn. so it was going— back in the autumn. so it was gong-on— back in the autumn. so it was gong-on rune- back in the autumn. so it was going-on june the. back in the autumn. so it was going on june the 17th. going to be on on june the 17th. it's going to be on on june the 17th. he gong— going to be on on june the 17th. he gotng to— going to be on on june the 17th. it's going to happen at the at the ueno— it's going to happen at the at the tn— it's going to happen at the at the arena in manchester. now on july— the arena in manchester. now on ruty the— the arena in manchester. now on ruty the-hom— the arena in manchester. now on july the liam smith bullish july the 1st. liam smith bullish

he—smtthl july the 1st. liam smith bullish he.chris_smithi july the 1st. liam smith bullish he chris eubank smith july the 1st. liam smith bullish he chris eubank everyth beats chris eubank jr every day of beats chris eubank jr every day oh the— beats chris eubank jr every day oh the-ont— beats chris eubank jr every day of the _and _on - beats chris eubank jr every day. of the _and _on sunday of the week and twice on sunday ont— of the week and twice on sunday onot-got— of the week and twice on sunday one-got-tn— of the week and twice on sunday one-got-tn the- and he's got he's in the ascendancy— and he's got he's in the- ascendancy _the first ascendancy having won the first htght— ascendancy having won the first htght-know— ascendancy having won the first fight-know having- ascendancy having won the first fight know having said fight but you know having said not— fight but you know having said thot-hoytng— fight but you know having said that-boxing ring- fight but you know having said that-boxing ring ,- fight but you know having said that boxing ring, i that in the boxing ring, i wouttn-t— that in the boxing ring, i wouldn't trust- that in the boxing ring, i wouldn't trust a back injury neoeeeutty. — wouldn't trust a back injury. necessarily. _only necessarily. you know it's only a necessarily. you know it's only _eeet— necessarily. you know it's only _eeet ot- necessarily. you know it's only a-weeks of grace. a couple of weeks of grace that hete— a couple of weeks of grace that nee—hto— a couple of weeks of grace that he-e—tnto the- a couple of weeks of grace that he's-into the ring.- he's got to get into the ring. he— he's got to get into the ring. tt-e-hrutot— he's got to get into the ring. it's-brutal sport.- he's got to get into the ring. it's brutal sport. and if it's a very brutal sport. and if you— it's a very brutal sport. and if you-mowe- it's a very brutal sport. and if your knows there's your opponent knows there's a mowe— your opponent knows there's a knows-achilles- your opponent knows there's a knows achilles heel knows as an achilles heel somewhere, that makes somewhere, then that makes it yery— somewhere, then that makes it yuy—tor— somewhere, then that makes it yery—tor htm.- somewhere, then that makes it very—for him. but. somewhere, then that makes it very for him. but he very dangerous for him. but he neete— very dangerous for him. but he neete to— very dangerous for him. but he needs to something. chris needs to do something. chris tuhont— needs to do something. chris eubank re—establish his eubank jr to re—establish his reoutotton— eubank jr to re—establish his reoutotton-t- eubank jr to re—establish his reputation i think he's reputation because i think he's trottng— reputation because i think he's trottng on— reputation because i think he's trottng on he— reputation because i think he's trading on his father's name. if tm — trading on his father's name. if m oerteotty— trading on his father's name. if i'm perfectly honest you. i'm perfectly honest with you. the— i'm perfectly honest with you. the oonoe— i'm perfectly honest with you. the oehoe .— i'm perfectly honest with you. the ashes . test— i'm perfectly honest with you. the ashes . test 16th- i'm perfectly honest with you. the ashes . test 16th to- i'm perfectly honest with you. the ashes. test 16th to 20th of june edgbaston. you've got some injury news there. yeah. jofra archer injury news there. yeah. jofra aroher t— injury news there. yeah. jofra archer i mean,— injury news there. yeah. jofra archer i mean, look,- injury news there. yeah. jofra archer i mean, look, he- archer i mean, look, he etruggteo— archer i mean, look, he struggled for- archer i mean, look, he struggled for a long time, but hete— struggled for a long time, but he-e-ethow— struggled for a long time, but he's elbow problem. he's he's got an elbow problem. he's my— he's got an elbow problem. he's onty—tori he's got an elbow problem. he's| onty—tor the only played five matches for the numhot — only played five matches for the numhot _th— only played five matches for the mumbai-in the- only played five matches for the mumbai in the indian mumbai indians in the indian hremter— mumbai indians in the indian premier league— mumbai indians in the indian premier league .— mumbai indians in the indian premier league . he's come back premier league. he's come back for—treatment,-it| for some more treatment, but it hoote— for some more treatment, but it toue-the— for some more treatment, but it looks-the world- for some more treatment, but it looks-the world as- for some more treatment, but it looks the world as if looks for all the world as if hete— looks for all the world as if nee-to— looks for all the world as if he's-to miss- looks for all the world as if he's-to miss out- looks for all the world as if he's to miss out on the he's going to miss out on the oehee— he's going to miss out on the ashes now. and— he's going to miss out on the ashes now. and that's a huge htow. — ashes now. and that's a huge htow. ant— ashes now. and that's a huge blow. and undergone huge blow. and he's undergone a huge treotment— blow. and he's undergone a huge treatment-he's- treatment processes. he's had eugery— treatment processes. he's had eurgery-he-e— treatment processes. he's had surgery-he's-he'sl treatment processes. he's had. surgery-he's-he's had surgery arnie, he's had he's had his surgery arnie, he's had he's had hte-monoget- surgery arnie, he's had he's had hte-monoget .- surgery arnie, he's had he's had his-managed . but,- surgery arnie, he's had he's had his managed. but, you his situation managed. but, you mow.— his situation managed. but, you mow-toet— his situation managed. but, you know,-fast bowler,- his situation managed. but, you know, fast bowler, he's know, as a fast bowler, he's going— know, as a fast bowler, he's gotng to— know, as a fast bowler, he's gotng to he— know, as a fast bowler, he's going to be seriously hampered if

going to be seriously hampered tt—ten-t- if his elbow injury isn't oteuet— if his elbow injury isn't oteuet uh.— if his elbow injury isn't cleared up. and it looks now as if cleared up. and it looks now as tt—oertot- if he's undergoing a period of teet— if he's undergoing a period of rest rehabilitation in and rest and rehabilitation in and etotee— rest and rehabilitation in and stokes tweeted _ rest and rehabilitation in and stokes tweeted yesterday, you mow.— stokes tweeted yesterday, you know, we're right— stokes tweeted yesterday, you know, we're right behind you, out— know, we're right behind you, hut t— know, we're right behind you, hut t huet— know, we're right behind you, but i just can't— know, we're right behind you, but i just can't see jofra aroher— but i just can't see jofra archer making the line up now. but archer making the line up now. hut tte— archer making the line up now. hut to o— archer making the line up now. but it's a major— archer making the line up now. but it's a major blow for tngtont. — but it's a major blow for tngtont. t— but it's a major blow for england. i mean, we saw them whet—tn- england. i mean, we saw them whet—tn the- wiped out last time in the he — wiped out last time in the- ashes. _considerable ashes. they made considerable tmoroyemente— improvements since then under hozhott— improvements since then under bazball everything. but bazball and everything. but but i bazball and everything. but but t-tune-e— bazball and everything. but but t-tune-e gotng— bazball and everything. but but t-tune-e gotng to- bazball and everything. but but i june's going to come too i think june's going to come too soon. we're talking, four soon. we're talking, what, four weehe—toi weeks away? it's not going to hoooen. — weeks away? it's not going to hoooen. - — weeks away? it's not going to happen. - thanks.- weeks away? it's not going to. happen. - thanks. thanks weeks away? it's not going to- happen.- thanks. thanks for happen. okay thanks. thanks for making up this morning. making our line up this morning. aidan thank you. aidan magee there. thank you. stay going to be stay with us. we're going to be tteoueetng— stay with us. we're going to be discussing the— stay with us. we're going to be discussing the archbishop of oonterhuy-e— canterbury's battle with the goyernment— canterbury's battle with the government migrant government over its migrant oottoy— government over its migrant oottoy. thot— government over its migrant policy. that will— government over its migrant policy. that will with david policy. that will be with david nettor— policy. that will be with david mellor-emma— policy. that will be with david mellor emma burnell .

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obesity crisis. 7000 diabetes sufferers . this is type to die sufferers. this is type to die needlessly every year we're going through the papers. one last time this morning grin g d one last time this morning with barin— last time this morning with david mellor— last time this morning with david mellor and emma burnell. and david mellor and emma burnell. ani brnrnn— david mellor and emma burnell. and emma, we're— david mellor and emma burnell. and emma, we're going to start nibb— and emma, we're going to start niin yon— and emma, we're going to start niin yon-ibis— and emma, we're going to start with you-this story- and emma, we're going to start with you this story which with you in this story which we've-reading- with you in this story which we've reading bulletins with you in this story which we'morning.eading bulletins with you in this story which we'morning.and1g bulletins with you in this story which we'morning. and ighave ulletins with you in this story which we'morning. and ighave to etins with you in this story which we'morning. and ighave to say; all morning. and i have to say iis— all morning. and i have to say ii-s one— all morning. and i have to say ii-s bi— all morning. and i have to say it's one of those— all morning. and i have to say it's one of those stories and ibis— it's one of those stories and this-occasionally. it's one of those stories and this occasionally in this happens occasionally in bedr— this happens occasionally in beg, you— this happens occasionally in bed, you know,— this happens occasionally in bed, you know, looking through this happens occasionally in bed newspapers. ooking through this happens occasionally in bed newspapers. ookinthingiugh this happens occasionally in bed newspapers. ookinthing when the newspapers. first thing when i i the newspapers. first thing when i—i sni— the newspapers. first thing when i—i bar ani- the newspapers. first thing when i_i sat and couldn't| the newspapers. first thing when i my i sat and couldn't the newspapers. first thing when i my head i sat and couldn't the newspapers. first thing when i my head around and couldn't the newspapers. first thing when i my head around this:ouldn't get my head around this incredible— get my head around this incredible story front of the guardian— incredible story front of the guardian .— incredible story front of the guardian , first— incredible story front of the guardian , first baby born guardian, first uk baby born nibb— guardian, first uk baby born niin dna— guardian, first uk baby born with dna from _ guardian, first uk baby born with dna from three people. so nnni-s— with dna from three people. so nnni-s ibis— with dna from three people. so nnni-s ibis 7— with dna from three people. so what's this ? what's happened what's this? what's happened nerei — what's this? what's happened being so— what's this? what's happened here? so basically- what's this? what's happened here? f gti here? so basically they've got the father and the mother and i think it's something 98 point something% of the dna will be theirs. so all of these sort of traits that you would expect in a child naturally born to two parents. but what they've done fascinatingly and i couldn't tell you the detail because obviously these are very clever scientists. they've put in a certain amount of the mitochondrial dna from a third donor egg that will protect this

child from certain inherited diseases that might have come from the original parents. so it's like a sort of almost like a pre birth inoculation in to ensure that the child will be healthy and happy perfectly you know usually born to the two parents but with this added protection from a third donor 999 protection from a third donor egg which is just extraordinary. apparently 6000 babies are born every— apparently 6000 babies are born eren genr— apparently 6000 babies are born eren year nibb— apparently 6000 babies are born every year with mitochondrial disorien— every year with mitochondrial iieoriere .— every year with mitochondrial disorders , things such as disorders, things such as i ininb— disorders, things such as i ininb ebino— disorders, things such as i think spina bifida was one of been — think spina bifida was one of been ani— think spina bifida was one of them. and this— think spina bifida was one of them. and this will address inn.— them. and this will address inoi. bo— them. and this will address inoi. so i— them. and this will address that. so | think— them. and this will address that. so i think it's absolutely ioeoinoiing— that. so i think it's absolutely ioeoinoiing. — that. so i think it's absolutely fascinating . it— that. so i think it's absolutely fascinating . it is.- that. so i think it's absolutely fascinating . c 'i: fascinating. it is. and, you know, i just i'm never to cease be amazed at what medical science is doing and can do. and i'm just so grateful that we live in a time where these things can be done right. well, you talk about science- 93 it?" : ” g well, you talk about science from rneiiooi— you talk about science from medical science— you talk about science from medical science to other types of science— medical science to other types of science and— medical science to other types of science and david, this is ine— of science and david, this is the guardian— of science and david, this is the guardian and this is online oni— the guardian and this is online and we're talking— the guardian and this is online and we're talking about al. yes

ibis— and we're talking about al. yes ibis is— and we're talking about al. yes ibis is insi— and we're talking about al. yes this is just shows— and we're talking about al. yes this is just shows the- and we're talking about al. yes this is just shows the other- this is just shows the other side of science. you know, science can solve a lot of problems . science can create problems. science can create a number of problems. i hope that i'm surprised to say i story which they've had online for eight hours. they haven't put into the main paper because what it really says is a group of people have done a study of the impact of ai and are really suggesting whether it poses an existential threat and risk to the health of millions. i'd just like to read just one paragraph from this report which says we are now seeking to create machines that are vastly more intelligent and powerful than ourselves . the potential for ourselves. the potential for such machines to apply this intelligence and power, whether deliberately or not, and in ways that could harm or subjugate humans, is real and has to be considered . now, you see, i like considered. now, you see, i like to think i'm reasonably well

informed , but i know nothing of informed, but i know nothing of any of this. and i think an awful lot of people this is creeping up on the world without people actually understand , people actually understand, adding that this artificial intelligence , this opens a whole intelligence, this opens a whole new dimension to our existence. what do you do about it? because on ine— what do you do about it? because on be one— what do you do about it? because on the one hand,— what do you do about it? because on the one hand, we're being robi— on the one hand, we're being ioii inni— on the one hand, we're being told that the— on the one hand, we're being told that the uk— on the one hand, we're being told that the uk is actually a bit told that the uk is actually a bib benini— told that the uk is actually a bit behind in— told that the uk is actually a bit behind in al— told that the uk is actually a bit behind in al we need to bit behind in al and we need to keep— bit behind in al and we need to keep ub— bit behind in al and we need to keep up nibb— bit behind in al and we need to keep up with the— bit behind in al and we need to keep up with the sort of arms ii— keep up with the sort of arms if you— keep up with the sort of arms race. if you like,— keep up with the sort of arms race. if you like, so that we broieoi— race. if you like, so that we can protect our— race. if you like, so that we can protect our national seonriiy, — can protect our national security, make sure that our government— security, make sure that our government database is or our defenses— government database is or our defences aren't— government database is or our defences aren't in— government database is or our defences aren't in some way iniiiiroieb— defences aren't in some way infiltrated, but— defences aren't in some way infiltrated, but on the other noni— infiltrated, but on the other band were— infiltrated, but on the other hand we're all— infiltrated, but on the other hand we're all saying need we hand we're all saying we need we need— hand we're all saying we need we need-ii— hand we're all saying we need we need-ii .— hand we're all saying we need we need-ii . i— hand we're all saying we need we need-it. i mean,- hand we're all saying we need we need-it. i mean, it's- need to stop it. i mean, it's very— need to stop it. i mean, it's very difficult— need to stop it. i mean, it's very difficult. _ need to stop it. i mean, it's very difficult. it- need to stop it. i mean, it's very difficult. l wig very difficult. it is very difficult. of course, the problem is it's very with people fretting about some of the things that people fret about that aren't really worth fretting that much. fretting about that much. i'm thinking people in thinking about people in government, what are we going to do to actually deal with the situation? one situation? and just to take one dimension it, only one thing. dimension of it, only one thing. if ai takes over a whole lot of

bafic if ai takes over a whole lot of basic work , work and some of the basic work, work and some of the work won't be quite so basic, what are we going to do with a community that will not have any jobs ? i mean, that's frightening jobs? i mean, that's frightening actually , i think absolutely actually, i think absolutely agree. totally actually, i think absolutely agree . totally agree with you. agree. totally agree with you. ine— agree. totally agree with you. ine beobie— agree. totally agree with you. ine beobie robo— agree. totally agree with you. the people who are- agflznz; totally agree with you. the people who are inventing ai and creating— the people who are inventing ai and creating ai— the people who are inventing ai and creating ai ,_ the people who are inventing ai and creating ai , the scientists, and creating ai, the scientists, inev— and creating ai, the scientists, inev know— and creating ai, the scientists, inev know ine— and creating ai, the scientists, they know the danger was and yet inev— they know the danger was and yet be siiii— they know the danger was and yet be siiii go— they know the danger was and yet they still go ahead. that's the point.— they still go ahead. that's the point. well there has to be a change to the laws and it has to be a global joined up thing. and we've seen it with dolly the sheen— and we've seen it with dolly the sneeb,-bnon— and we've seen it with dolly the sheep, - know that - and we've seen it with dolly the sheep, know that we're sheep, and we know that we're not sheep, and we know that we're nob-io — sheep, and we know that we're nob-io io, — sheep, and we know that we're nob-io no, you- sheep, and we know that we're not to do, you know, not allowed to do, you know, oioning— not allowed to do, you know, oioning oi— not allowed to do, you know, cloning of human beings, for examine.— cloning of human beings, for exonbie. iis— cloning of human beings, for example. it's illegal for obvious— example. it's illegal for obvious-.- example. it's illegal for obvious-. we. example. it's illegal for- obvious-. we should be obvious reasons. we should be obie— obvious reasons. we should be obie io— obvious reasons. we should be obie o oo— obvious reasons. we should be able to do the— obvious reasons. we should be able to do the same with al. boob.— able to do the same with al. yeah, absolutely.— able to do the same with al. yeah, absolutely. it's- able to do the same with al. yeah, absolutely. it's not- able to do the same with al. yeah, absolutely. it's not about stopping development. it's about guardrails and regulation. and we've got to have those guardrails. i mean, it's quite terrifying that terminator turns out to be a prophetic film rather than a great bit of entertainment, but that is exactly the plot line of that film. you know, robots get cleverer than us and decide that

we're surplus to. we've seen the movie already. we know how it ends. — movie already. we know how it ends. ve— movie already. we know how it ends. we know how it ends when an ai person starts presenting this show , how will you feel this show, how will you feel they won't able to recreate they won't be able to recreate they won't be able to recreate the that there is no? i the banter that there is no? i mean , there just could never be mean, there just could never be sexual chemistry that just oozes throughout this whole programme . who said, oh my god , i this is . who said, oh my god, i this is webb— . who said, oh my god, i this is web, in— . who said, oh my god, i this is web, in boo— . who said, oh my god, i this is well, i'm too old— . who said, oh my god, i this is well, i'm too old to— who said, oh my god, i this is well, i'm too old to fret about inab— well, i'm too old to fret about not ine— well, i'm too old to fret about not ine bong— well, i'm too old to fret about that the lang cat— well, i'm too old to fret about that the lang cat they don't get it. that the lang cat they don't get in wno-s— that the lang cat they don't get in wno-s going— that the lang cat they don't get it. who's going to— that the lang cat they don't get it. who's going to be able to recreate how— it. who's going to be able to recreate how you _ it. who's going to be able to recreate how you feel for me? i i— recreate how you feel for me? i i oon-b— recreate how you feel for me? i mean, i don't think— recreate how you feel for me? i mean, i don't think an- recreate how you feel for me? i mean, i don't think an ai- recreate how you feel for me? i mean, i don't think an ai could have, for example, come out with that sentence. exactly right. let me ask you this. unless it bori— let me ask you this. unless it had gone loopy anyway, this is the guardian, page five. there's little evidence that ireoirnenis— there's little evidence that treatments for— there's little evidence that treatments for chronic pain work. — treatments for chronic pain work. now,— treatments for chronic pain work. now, the— treatments for chronic pain work. now, the one thing the rneiiooi— work. now, the one thing the medical-hates- work. now, the one thing the medical-hates is. medical industry hates is oisbensing— medical industry hates is dispensing painkillers. right so inev— dispensing painkillers. right so be obi— dispensing painkillers. right so inev obi sonne— dispensing painkillers. right so they all come up— dispensing painkillers. right so they all come up with ideas. if you— they all come up with ideas. if you go— they all come up with ideas. if you go io— they all come up with ideas. if you go to hospital— they all come up with ideas. if you go to hospital or something like— you go to hospital or something bike, for— you go to hospital or something like, for instance,— you go to hospital or something like, for instance, when i had my— like, for instance, when i had rnv-broben- like, for instance, when i had my-broken, they. my shoulder broken, they would give— my shoulder broken, they would give-boreoe— my shoulder broken, they would give . parece peter- my shoulder broken, they would give parece peter for give me parece peter murrell for my sboniien— give me parece peter murrell for my shoulder. might as well my shoulder. you might as well nove— my shoulder. you might as well nave—nibb- my shoulder. you might as well have _with lwet- have robbed me with a wet ieiinoe—

have robbed me with a wet lettuce leaf. _it- have robbed me with a wet lettuce leaf. it was lettuce leaf. i mean, it was riiionions— lettuce leaf. i mean, it was ridiculous. and— lettuce leaf. i mean, it was ridiculous. and i- lettuce leaf. i mean, it was ridiculous. and i realised that lettuce leaf. i mean, it was ridilwayls. and i realised that lettuce leaf. i mean, it was ridilway thatid i realised that lettuce leaf. i mean, it was ridilway that you realised that lettuce leaf. i mean, it was ridilway that you gotised that lettuce leaf. i mean, it was ridilway that you got medication the way that you got medication in ine— the way that you got medication in be bbs— the way that you got medication in the nhs hospital was that beobie— in the nhs hospital was that beobie bobbi— in the nhs hospital was that people would just scream. so in the people would just scream. so in be nor— people would just scream. so in be inev— people would just scream. so in the war they would scream. so people would just scream. so in the and they would scream. so people would just scream. so in the and one' would scream. so people would just scream. so in the and one wednesday am. so people would just scream. so in the and one wednesday morning 315 and one wednesday morning i inongni— 315 and one wednesday morning i inongni sow— 315 and one wednesday morning i thought saw this— 315 and one wednesday morning i thought saw this for a game of soioiers— thought saw this for a game of soldiers and— thought saw this for a game of soldiers and i— thought saw this for a game of soldiers and i just— thought saw this for a game of soldiers and i just started seig— soldiers and i just started screaming till— soldiers and i just started screaming till i got what i oonteo.— screaming till i got what i nonieo. bui— screaming till i got what i wanted. but it's like being ioniiion— wanted. but it's like being familiar, being— wanted. but it's like being familiar, being a baby. wanted. but it's like being familiar, being a baby . l familiar, being a baby. so it bike— familiar, being a baby. so it was like being— familiar, being a baby. so it was like being a— familiar, being a baby. so it was like being a baby back in belfast. it was like being a baby back in belfast . it was. was like being a baby back in belfast. it was. it was like being a baby back in belfast . it was. it was that belfast. it was. it was that eamonn holmes is screaming the place down again. i tell you, david, place down again. i tell you, gang, ii— place down again. i tell you, gang, if you— place down again. i tell you, david, if you are— place down again. i tell you, david, if you are in.- f : 5g " i tell you, david, if you are in. yeah, f : gigi? " i tell you, david, if you are in. yeah, no, iis— david, if you are in. yeah, no, its o— david, if you are in. yeah, no, its o senons— david, if you are in. yeah, no, it's a serious your— david, if you are in. yeah, no, it's a serious your body and you know— it's a serious your body and you know onen— it's a serious your body and you know nnen yon— it's a serious your body and you know when you say— it's a serious your body and you know when you say i need more boinbiiier— know when you say i need more painkiller-you'll- know when you say i need more painkiller you'll be painkiller hours. oh you'll be all painkiller hours. oh you'll be obi-bobbi— painkiller hours. oh you'll be all-you'll.fine. - painkiller hours. oh you'll be all you'll fine. i'll all right. you'll be fine. i'll noi— all right. you'll be fine. i'll nob be— all right. you'll be fine. i'll nob be fine. — all right. you'll be fine. i'll not be fine. and- all right. you'll be fine. i'll not be fine. and then you hear ibis— not be fine. and then you hear ibis-boi— not be fine. and then you hear ibis-inoi .— not be fine. and then you hear this-that . oh,- not be fine. and then you hear this-that . oh, but. not be fine. and then you hear this that . oh, but the this nonsense that. oh, but the side— this nonsense that. oh, but the side eiieois— this nonsense that. oh, but the side effects will— this nonsense that. oh, but the side effects will be awful . side effects will be awful. webb— side effects will be awful. bbebb non— side effects will be awful. well, how could the side effects be ony— well, how could the side effects be on os— well, how could the side effects be any worse than— well, how could the side effects be any worse than the pain one is going— be any worse than the pain one is going inrongn— be any worse than the pain one is going through in the first bbooee — is going through in the first bbooee i— is going through in the first place? i mean,— is going through in the first place? " is going through in the first place? i mean, that that's a sort separate issue. and sort of separate issue. and there a huge problem with there is a huge problem with painkiller addiction opioids and the opioids scandal in the us, which is really quite appalling

. i read a fascinating book on the sackler family and how much like the tobacco industry for years did they completely suppressed all of the research into this this story slightly different in that what they're talking about is that people in chronic pain are being prescribed antidepressants . yes. prescribed antidepressants. yes. and there's actually it seems the evidence is not there . why the evidence is not there. why would these help ? there are would these help? there are people don't really see the connection as to why dealing with your mental mood helps your pain . well, i'm guessing that a, pain. well, i'm guessing that a, there's a certain amount of placebo effect and b, serotonin production, which is what antidepressants do , might help antidepressants do, might help you to manage your response to pain. but i just feel we need to do going back to my first phrase, we know we're in an extraordinary world of medical breakthroughs. they've got to be better ways , ways that don't better ways, ways that don't involve huge financial scandals and medical addiction and ways

that actually work rather than just pumping out these these pills that, you know, we've got in hand, as it were. so i think there and i know people suffering from chronic pain. it is it's not a case of just getting through it can really debilitate your whole life. so it's i have a lot of this what i don't want to do is see people being told this will help when it won't. well i don't want people to be deprived of tablets when they will help or they're better than the alternative. absolutely. you might as well snob— absolutely. you might as well snob on— absolutely. you might as well snob on o— absolutely. you might as well suck on a nettle— absolutely. you might as well suck on a nettle or you would you— suck on a nettle or you would you nonbi— suck on a nettle or you would you nonbo oo— suck on a nettle or you would you would do anything to get rid and you would do anything to get rid ono inoi-s— you would do anything to get rid ono inoi-s ii. — you would do anything to get rid and that's it. people- you would do anything to get rid and that's it. 311i: " and that's it. people who are in that of pain. reading that kind of pain. i was reading a story about a woman who basically invented the concept of post traumatic stress disorder and then she had a terrible injury and it wiped out her career for 20 to 30 years. so they need help. but we've got to make sure it's the right

help. yeah, now you're talking oboni— help. yeah, now you're talking oboni nibing— help. yeah, now you're talking about wiping out— yeah, now you're talking about wiping out careers. david the about wiping out careers. david one gonn— about wiping out careers. david the john lewis,— about wiping out careers. david the john lewis, the boss of john benis— the john lewis, the boss of john benis ono— the john lewis, the boss of john lewis, and that— the john lewis, the boss of john lewis, and that includes noiirose— lewis, and that includes waitrose and— lewis, and that includes waitrose and all sorts of places , nibb— waitrose and all sorts of places , nibb booe— waitrose and all sorts of places , nibb iooe o— waitrose and all sorts of places , will face a confidence vote by son— , will face a confidence vote by staff members— , will face a confidence vote by staff members today. now, this is very— staff members today. now, this is very, very— staff members today. now, this is very, very interesting. as i nnoersiono— is very, very interesting. as i understand it,— is very, very interesting. as i understand it, this woman is an ex sini— understand it, this woman is an ex oinib senoni— understand it, this woman is an ex civil servant .— understand it, this woman is an ex civil servant . yes. and she's ex civil servant. yes. and she's running— ex civil servant. yes. and she's rnnning ibis— ex civil servant. yes. and she's running this big— ex civil servant. yes. and she's running this big commercial eniiiv— running this big commercial eniiiv no— running this big commercial entity now. things don't seem to be going— entity now. things don't seem to be going boo— entity now. things don't seem to be going too well— entity now. things don't seem to be going too well at john lewis at be going too well at john lewis oi ine— be going too well at john lewis at the moment— be going too well at john lewis at the moment in— be going too well at john lewis at the moment in terms of what it's at the moment in terms of what its nonn— at the moment in terms of what its norin .— at the moment in terms of what its norin . bui— at the moment in terms of what it's worth . but the— at the moment in terms of what it's worth . but the latest thing it's worth. but the latest thing i— it's worth. but the latest thing i reori— it's worth. but the latest thing i reoo in— it's worth. but the latest thing was i read in the— it's worth. but the latest thing was i read in the papers on snnoov— was i read in the papers on snnoov ono— was i read in the papers on sunday and know people who went snobbing— sunday and know people who went snobbing .— sunday and know people who went snobbing . iinobbn— sunday and know people who went shopping . finally, if you go to shopping. finally, if you go to noiirose— shopping. finally, if you go to waitrose now,— shopping. finally, if you go to waitrose now, they've got the bignis— waitrose now, they've got the bignis-oni— waitrose now, they've got the lights-out and - waitrose now, they've got the lights out and they have lights turned out and they have no-on-inings- lights turned out and they have no-on-things as. lights turned out and they havei no-on-things as part no heating on and things as part of-environmentally- of being environmentally friendlv-_ friendly. so the whole experience _ friendly. so the whole experience like visiting experience is like visiting a gnosi— experience is like visiting a gnosi iroin— experience is like visiting a ghost train or— experience is like visiting a ghost train or something. so i insi— ghost train or something. so i insi none— ghost train or something. so i insi none io— ghost train or something. so i just have to laugh because this is insi— just have to laugh because this is insi bike— just have to laugh because this is just like one— just have to laugh because this is just like one disaster after onoiner— is just like one disaster after onoiner .— is just like one disaster after another . tell— is just like one disaster after another . tell us— is just like one disaster after another. tell us more. is just like one disaster after another . tell us more. ennis l another. tell us more. well, it is .— another. tell us more. well, it is . ano— another. tell us more. well, it is . ann os— another. tell us more. well, it is . ann os yon— another. tell us more. well, it is . and as you say , the guardian is. and as you say, the guardian online says the boss of john lewis, dame sharon white, will face a confidence vote by staff

members because remember, the staff own the business and she is looking for ways of bringing in fresh investment . and on the in fresh investment. and on the face of it, nothing wrong with that. if you see, the interesting thing is in this fast changing world, nothing is forever. i mean, i've been a long standing john lewis customer. i don't think i'm responsible solely for the lot of other people. don't go. but, but and i love waitrose. but it's actually got to the point now where what used to be regarded as assets in that business are no longer regarded as assets. things change. and i have to admit, you know , it is have to admit, you know, it is odd that somebody who had a distinguished career as a civil servant is deemed to be the right person to run a retail business like that . but the business like that. but the reality is that john lewis has supped reality is that john lewis has slipped down on to become a source of people are saying, well, you don't want to end up like john lewis when of course, a few years ago people were

saying, john lewis, what a perfect recipe for a classic business. you know? okay, guys, you've business. you know? okay, guys, yon-e been— business. you know? okay, guys, you've been classic— /i:::i. , okay, guys, you've been classic reviewers ibis— you've been classic reviewers ibis morning.— you've been classic reviewers this morning. really? do obbreoioie— this morning. really? do appreciate that. thank you, brnrno. — appreciate that. thank you, emma. .david. - appreciate that. thank you, emma. david. and with that emma. and david. and with that binne— emma. and david. and with that iirne obbroooning— emma. and david. and with that time approaching a 8:45, we'll sav— time approaching a 8:45, we'll sov gooobve— time approaching a 8:45, we'll sov gooobve io— time approaching a 8:45, we'll say goodbye to the guys and web— say goodbye to the guys and web bring— say goodbye to the guys and we'll bring you— say goodbye to the guys and we'll bring you up to date with onions— we'll bring you up to date with onions rob— we'll bring you up to date with today's top stories— we'll bring you up to date with today's top stories . as the us today's top stories. as the us jury— today's top stories. as the us inn bonne— today's top stories. as the us jury found donald trump sexually obnseo— jury found donald trump sexually obnseo ine— jury found donald trump sexually abused the magazine to e jean corrob— abused the magazine to e jean corrobb in— abused the magazine to e jean carroll in the— abused the magazine to e jean carroll in the 1990s and then oeiorneo— carroll in the 1990s and then defamed her— carroll in the 1990s and then defamed her by— carroll in the 1990s and then defamed her by branding her a bion— defamed her by branding her a bion be— defamed her by branding her a bion be nosi— defamed her by branding her a liar, he must now— defamed her by branding her a liar, he must now pay nearly £4 rnibbion— liar, he must now pay nearly £4 rnibbion in— liar, he must now pay nearly £4 million in damages to the columnist. _ million in damages to the columnist. f: columnist. trump's called the verdict a disgrace , saying he verdict a disgrace, saying he will appeal the archbishop of canterbury will condemn the government's illegal migration bill in parliament later today. the legislation aims to detain ono— the legislation aims to detain ono nonbin— the legislation aims to detain and promptly remove people who in— and promptly remove people who in ine— and promptly remove people who arrive in the uk— and promptly remove people who arrive in the uk in— and promptly remove people who arrive in the uk in small boats eiiner— arrive in the uk in small boats eiiner io— arrive in the uk in small boats either to their— arrive in the uk in small boats either to their home country or a either to their home country or o inno— either to their home country or o iniro connin— either to their home country or a third country like rwanda . the a third country like rwanda. the bovob— a third country like rwanda. the bovob cobbege— a third country like rwanda. the royal college of— a third country like rwanda. the royal college of nursing will be bobboiing— royal college of nursing will be bobboiing iis— royal college of nursing will be balloting its members in england on nneiner— balloting its members in england on nneiner io—

balloting its members in england on whether to take— balloting its members in england on whether to take more strike ooiion— on whether to take more strike action.nurses_ on whether to take more strike action . nurses vote - on whether to take more strike action nurses vote in favour, action if nurses vote in favour, siribes— action if nurses vote in favour, siribes sobbi— action if nurses vote in favour, strikes could occur— action if nurses vote in favour, strikes could occur at every nhs rinsi— strikes could occur at every nhs irnsi in— strikes could occur at every nhs trust in england— strikes could occur at every nhs trust in england .— strikes could occur at every nhs trust in england . parts of trust in england. parts of bngbono— trust in england. parts of england have— trust in england. parts of england have been hit by hail siors— england have been hit by hail siors neon— england have been hit by hail storms, heavy rain and thunder. vebbon— storms, heavy rain and thunder. yellow weather— storms, heavy rain and thunder. yellow weather warnings in place nniib— yellow weather warnings in place nniib ioioo— yellow weather warnings in place until 10:00 tonight. the met eiiioe— until 10:00 tonight. the met biiioe sovs— until 10:00 tonight. the met office says heavy showers with the office says heavy showers with ine risi— office says heavy showers with be risb oi— office says heavy showers with the risk of thunder and hail nibb— the risk of thunder and hail nibb bersisi— the risk of thunder and hail will persist over— the risk of thunder and hail will persist over the next two boys— will persist over the next two boys .— will persist over the next two boys . — will persist over the next two days . snowdrops- will persist over the next two days . : er: :: days. snowdrops and daffodils, butterflies and bees, sailboat boats and fishermen , things of boats and fishermen, things of the sea. oh, a duet . and she was the sea. oh, a duet. and she was binon— the sea. oh, a duet. and she was binon .— the sea. oh, a duet. and she was binon . on— the sea. oh, a duet. and she was binon . on, sne— the sea. oh, a duet. and she was dinah . oh, she was— the sea. oh, a duet. and she was dinah . oh, she was only,- o" i: and she was dinah . oh, she was only, what, dinah. oh, she was only, what, 17 dinah. oh, she was only, what, ii or— dinah. oh, she was only, what, ii or so— dinah. oh, she was only, what, ii or so nnen— dinah. oh, she was only, what, 17 or so when you— dinah. oh, she was only, what, 17 or so when you were. ennis 17 or so when you were. well, in — 17 or so when you were. well, in nibbing— 17 or so when you were. well, i'm willing to lie. i was 18. 18. and she won the i'm willing to lie. i was 18.- 18. and she won the eurovision song— 18. and she won the eurovision song coniesi— 18. and she won the eurovision song contest with— 8 and she won the eurovision song contest with this song 3 and she won the eurovision song contest with this song . song contest with this song. bei-s— song contest with this song. bei-s none— song contest with this song. bei-s none o— song contest with this song. let's have a look. oh . okay of let's have a look. oh. okay of enervibing— let's have a look. oh. okay of enervibing . — let's have a look. oh. okay of everything . remind- let's have a look. oh. okay of everything . 3c.“ i: let's have a look. oh. okay of everything . 31:“ i:

let's have a look. oh. okay of everything . 31:1“ 1i: everything. remind me of you, summer time. winter time , time, summer time. winter time, time, spring. and autumn too. monday, tuesday . every day i think of tuesday. every day i think of you. day houses, romance is things of the night. oh, wow . things of the night. oh, wow. voice of an angel. oh , are you voice of an angel. oh, are you talking to me, raymond? to you . talking to me, raymond? to you. don't make it any bigger. how did that little song and- don't make it any bigger. how did that little song and i- j1:1�* l e e3 ggi1:1” how did that little song and i mean, i did that little song and i mean, i rernernerb— did that little song and i mean, i rernernerb i— did that little song and i mean, i remember i was— did that little song and i mean, i remember i was ten years of oge— i remember i was ten years of oge oi— i remember i was ten years of oge oi ine— i remember i was ten years of age at the time,— i remember i was ten years of age at the time, and i remember you— age at the time, and i remember you conning— age at the time, and i remember you coming boob— age at the time, and i remember you coming back to— age at the time, and i remember you coming back to derry, and inev— you coming back to derry, and inev noi— you coming back to derry, and inev noi o— you coming back to derry, and they had a special plane called they had a special plane called ine-oberoiion— they had a special plane called the operation diana. the nana operation diana. oberoiion— the nana operation diana. operation diana and the contest in— operation diana and the contest was in amsterdam _ operation diana and the contest was in amsterdam . ' : was in amsterdam. amsterdam, which you know very well. isabel and. and you isabelhand. and you came back isabel and. and you came back oni— isabel and. and you came back oni everybodvr_ isabel and. and you came back and everybody, it— isabel and. and you came back and everybody, it seemed to be the and everybody, it seemed to be be nnobe— and everybody, it seemed to be be nnobe oi— and everybody, it seemed to be the whole of ireland turned out for the whole of ireland turned out ior yon. — the whole of ireland turned out ior you. on— the whole of ireland turned out ior yon. on .— the whole of ireland turned out ior yon. on . ii— the whole of ireland turned out for you. oh , it was- the whole of ireland turned out for you. cj“ : it. for you. oh, it was fantastic. when i left to go to amsterdam to cleaners and a porter waved

us goodbye . and when we landed us goodbye. and when we landed back in dublin airport, there was about 5000 people hanging off the building . and then the off the building. and then the first time that a southern irish plane landed in northern ireland. so it was very unifying. and it was the music united, the communities in the north. it, you know , over the north. it, you know, over the border. but then it was thank god it was a hit all through europe. and i must never forget the writers to amateur writers, compositors in a newspaper. derry lindsay and jackie smith. but it all seriousness i was i was thinking about it, looking at it, and i'm looking at a lot of the acts that take place now in whatever it is . could a song in whatever it is. could a song bike— in whatever it is. could a song bibe abb— in whatever it is. could a song like all kinds— in whatever it is. could a song like all kinds of— 1“ l could a song like all kinds of everything ever win eurovision again, or is inoi— ever win eurovision again, or is inoi iirne— ever win eurovision again, or is inoi iirne gone— ever win eurovision again, or is that time gone ? _ ever win eurovision again, or is that time gone ? i— ever win eurovision again, or is that time gone ? l “e”i: that time gone? i it's a hard io— that time gone? i it's a hard one to answer that but what restored my faith? wouldn't you love to keep eurovision a political agenda free zone and let it be about the music and the performance? italy arnie.

no, not italy. portugal won in 2017 when he looked a mess . 2017 when he looked a mess. nobody styled him. the song had the longest intro in the history of eurovision and he smashed it all the jury votes and all the pubuc all the jury votes and all the public votes voted for the song and for him . so yes, you you can and for him. so yes, you you can actually beat the system. yeah. yeah. eurovision i presume, sornbbeiebv— yeah. eurovision i presume, completely changed your life. oh yeon. — completely changed your life. oh yeon. bo— completely changed your life. oh veon. bo yon— completely changed your life. oh yeah. do you still— completely changed your life. oh yeah. do you still think it has inoi— yeah. do you still think it has inoi soe— yeah. do you still think it has that same magic? i think eurovision. any platform that allows people all to come together and celebrate in a good way. i would never knock it. and for unknown writers is i mean, look at derry and jackie smith, unknown writers to have that platform. it's unbelievable . so platform. it's unbelievable. so what happened to you? l l. “in; so what happened to you? you won. you on— what happened to you? you won. von ine— what happened to you? you won. you won the contest. and then insi— you won the contest. and then insi iobb— you won the contest. and then insi iobb us— you won the contest. and then just talk us through the iobboning— just talk us through the following year of your life and nnoi— following year of your life and nnoi ii— following year of your life and what it looked— following year of your life and what it looked like. oh, it was neoiio— what it looked like. oh, it was neoiiolii— what it looked like. oh, it was hectic-it-like- hectic. it was like a roundabout. every single tv brogrornrne— roundabout. every single tv brogrornrne-ii- roundabout. every single tv programme,-it was. roundabout. every single tv. programme,-it was cilla

programme, whether it was cilla biosb— programme, whether it was cilla bboob, cbiii— programme, whether it was cilla black, cliff richard, saturday nigni— black, cliff richard, saturday nigni rigni— black, cliff richard, saturday night right through the 70s into the night right through the 70s into ine ses— night right through the 70s into ine ses, every— night right through the 70s into the 80s, every tv— night right through the 70s into the 80s, every tv programme inere— the 80s, every tv programme inere os— the 80s, every tv programme there was more— the 80s, every tv programme there was more than the dots. they— there was more than the dots. ibey soii— there was more than the dots. ibey soii ii— there was more than the dots. they said it was— there was more than the dots. they said it was on— there was more than the dots. they said it was on more- there was more than the dots. they said it was on more than the dot for those viewers who remember the dots at the end of the no , it it was heck. the tv, no, it was. it was heck. but thing that happened but the best thing that happened to follow record to me was the follow up record was flop. oh, what was a complete flop. oh, what was a complete flop. oh, what was the follow was called was the follow up? it was called easy. will follow you . okay. easy. i will follow you. okay. if you follow me and actually, olivia newton—john did the demo and it was a complete flop and it a wonderful agent. dick katz . he said, okay, you can go back to normal life or you can stay and fight and it was the first time anybody had asked me what did i want to do? so i said, okay, well, stay and fight . and okay, well, stay and fight. and the following year , when the following year, when eurovision came around, i had a hit all over europe with a song called who put the lights out. so that kind of ensured i wasn't a eurovision one hit wonder. yeah yeah. and then thank god i had had a number of hits after that. we we got talking a while

back, a few months ago when they knew that ukraine couldn't hold the contest and we both firmly believed that the contest should not be held in liverpool, newcastle, glasgow, whatever. it should have been held in bebiosi— it should have been held in belfast. yeah,— it should have been held in belfast. yeah, because of the nisiorn— belfast. yeah, because of the war history, the— belfast. yeah, because of the war history, the war torn idea, ine— war history, the war torn idea, ine iieo— war history, the war torn idea, ine iieo oi— war history, the war torn idea, the idea of peace— war history, the war torn idea, the idea of peace and reconciliation and whatever, nboienen— reconciliation and whatever, nnoiener. bo— reconciliation and whatever, whatever. no one, no one agreed niin— whatever. no one, no one agreed niin ibis— whatever. no one, no one agreed niin ibis bui— whatever. no one, no one agreed with this, but we,— whatever. no one, no one agreed with this, but we, we definitely inongni— with this, but we, we definitely inongni inoi— with this, but we, we definitely thought that it— with this, but we, we definitely thought that it should . vin: thought that it should. we ieiiniieiy— thought that it should. we definitely put— thought that it should. we definitely put that- thought that it should. we definitely put that forward . definitely put that forward. although i was in liverpool yesterday and i would not begrudge liverpool anything. well, it's practically irish. oh, they're wonderful people. and all the volunteers. the eurovision volunteers and saying hello to them again because they're just marvellous . it's they're just marvellous. it's there's a buzz, there's a happiness list, an i wouldn't begrudge liverpool anything . begrudge liverpool anything. last night they got kicked out ireboni— last night they got kicked out ireboni goi— last night they got kicked out ireland got lost— last night they got kicked out ireland got lost their place . ireland got lost their place. yep,— ireland got lost their place. yep, yep- _ ireland got lost their place. yepr yep- what- ireland got lost their place. yepr yep- what a- ireland got lost their place. yep, yep. �*fii�*1“e “ce 1“ yep, yep. what a shame. yeah. yeah. but i didn't realise that last night was an entirely pubuc last night was an entirely public vote. no music jury vote

. and i think that's. that's very difficult to overcome . it's very difficult to overcome. it's strange. isabel was saying how it strange. isabel was saying how ii onongei— strange. isabel was saying how ii onongei your— strange. isabel was saying how it changed your life.— g isabel was saying how it changed your life. eurovision ani— it changed your life. eurovision ani ii— it changed your life. eurovision and it changed— it changed your life. eurovision and it changed your life to a iegree— and it changed your life to a iegree inoi— and it changed your life to a degree that it— and it changed your life to a degree that it was part of the irnbeins— degree that it was part of the irnbeins inoi— degree that it was part of the impetus that made you or felt vou— impetus that made you or felt yon sobbi— impetus that made you or felt yon oonbi run— impetus that made you or felt you could run to— impetus that made you or felt you could run to be the bresiieni— you could run to be the president of— you could run to be the president of ireland. : president of ireland. i heard you— president of ireland. i heard you eieroiei — president of ireland. i heard you elevated me to the president , and i want to thank you very much . yeah, but you lost to the much. yeah, but you lost to the be—rnon— much. yeah, but you lost to the de—man michael— much. yeah, but you lost to the de—man michael d— 1“..1it“ yeah, but you lost to the de—man michael d higgins yeah “.it.“ yeah, but you lost to the de—man michael d higgins yeah. and de—man michael d higgins yeah. ani nes— de—man michael d higgins yeah. ani ne-s siibb— de—man michael d higgins yeah. and he's still the— de—man michael d higgins yeah. and he's still the president. neon— and he's still the president. veon — and he's still the president. yeah twice.— and he's still the president. yeah twice. |— and he's still the president. yeah twice. i was- and he's still the president. yeah e : yeah twice. iwas nominated. i was the first independent ever nominated to run. and, you know, honestly , i had no desire to be honestly, i had no desire to be in politics because we saw politics fail and i had no desire to be in politics. but i think, like most people, i, i hate when people feel that nobody's listening to them. you know, when the person feels that they don't have the connection or they don't have the, you know, whatever it is to get their voice heard and nobody is

listening. and all had was listening. and all i had was a platform. used the platform platform. so i used the platform to speak for them and i agreed with them. so i got nominated and then because of that , that and then because of that, that i ran in the european election and iended ran in the european election and i ended up with, as an mep, an mep, yeah. how did you find that experience — mep, yeah. how did you find that experience? well,— mep, yeah. how did you find that experience? well, it— mep, yeah. how did you find that experience? well, it was- ii 37�* “ce 1“ how did you find that experience? will : �*" experience? well, it was first of all an honour, definitely an honour as i walked in. nana mouskouri was walking out. do you know who nana mouskouri is? big glasses, big spectacles, iornons— big glasses, big spectacles, famous greek. _ big glasses, big spectacles, famous greek. ci”i1:1i1:1

day. every day. a battle. boo-re— day. every day. a battle. you're well— day. every day. a battle. you're well out- day. every day. a battle. you're well out of- day. every day. a battle. you're well out of it.- day. every day. a battle. you're well out of it. you're well out of it. but that business about giving people a voice is what we try and do on this channel. i know and connect with people and say the things that others are afraid to. that's why watch but that's why we watch it. but oono.— that's why we watch it. but oono—go- that's why we watch it. buti bono—go-bv dana, do you just go still by bonoe — dana, do you just go still by bonoe nyon— dana, do you just go still by dana? .you dana- dana, do you just go still by dana? i e“ dana, do you just go still by- dana? .you dana scanlon well, dana? are you dana scanlon well, dana? are you dana scanlon well, dana i'll always be. dana dana, i'll always just be. dana can i tell you i'm doing- dana, i'll always just be. dana can i tell you i'm doing a- ll dana can i tell you i'm doing a choir somb— can i tell you i'm doing a choir sornb oi— can i tell you i'm doing a choir sornb oi ine— can i tell you i'm doing a choir camp at the beginning june. camp at the beginning of june. nnoi— camp at the beginning of june. nnoi-oonnbe- camp at the beginning of june. what-camp? oh- camp at the beginning of june. i what-camp? oh anyone what is a choir camp? oh anyone who wants to sing, you don't have to a singer. yes, we're have to be a singer. yes, we're in a beautiful— have to be a singer. yes, we're in a beautiful-house.| in a beautiful dunfield house. it's in a beautiful dunfield house. bis—iis- it's a stately home. it's a neebeni— it's a stately home. it's a weekend where- it's a stately home. it's a weekend where they'll learn inree— weekend where they'll learn inree oi— weekend where they'll learn inree oi ny— weekend where they'll learn three of my songs. they'll sing all three of my songs. they'll sing obi binis— three of my songs. they'll sing obi binis oi— three of my songs. they'll sing all kinds of everything with me. ani— all kinds of everything with me. ani ononev— all kinds of everything with me. and anyone can— all kinds of everything with me. and anyone can come. there's gobo— and anyone can come. there's gobo iinner— and anyone can come. there's gobo iinner .— and anyone can come. there's gala dinner , there's campfire gala dinner, there's campfire singing— gala dinner, there's campfire singing .— gala dinner, there's campfire singing . bui— gala dinner, there's campfire singing . bni o— gala dinner, there's campfire singing, but a wonderful choir sie— singing, but a wonderful choir master called— singing, but a wonderful choir master called matthew jones , a master called matthew jones, a young— master called matthew jones, a young onoir— master called matthew jones, a young choir master. and on the iinob— young choir master. and on the iinob ooy— young choir master. and on the iinob iov .— young choir master. and on the iinob iov . ne— young choir master. and on the final day , we will— young choir master. and on the final day , we will sing together final day, we will sing together . ani— final day, we will sing together . ani ii— final day, we will sing together . ani ii yon— final day, we will sing together . and if you want— final day, we will sing together . and if you want to come bese— . and if you want to come bese i— . and if you want to come because i think- . and if you want to come because i think you'd like to sing— because i think you'd like to sing .— because i think you'd like to sing . iis— because i think you'd like to sing . is o— because i think you'd like to sing . it's a choir— because i think you'd like to sing. it's a choir camp because i think you'd like to sing . it's a choir camp 2023 sing. it's a choir camp 2023 niin— sing. it's a choir camp 2023 niin oono.— sing. it's a choir camp 2023 with dana. okay— sing. it's a choir camp 2023 with dana. okay ' “i: l “1:1i: with dana. okay and it's held. wneree— with dana. okay and it's held. wneree in— with dana. okay and it's held. where? in dunfield— with dana. okay ' “i: l “1:1i: where? in dunfield house. it's bingsion— where? in dunfield house. it's near kingston in— where? in dunfield house. it's near kingston in hertfordshire. verv— near kingston in hertfordshire. very good.— near kingston in hertfordshire. very good ani— near kingston in hertfordshire. very good. and it's beautiful.

do very good. and it's beautiful. bo yon— very good. and it's beautiful. bo you know— very good. and it's beautiful. do you know after— very good. and it's beautiful. do you know after the- very good. and it's beautiful. do you know after the king's coronation concert on sunday and the choirs prominence in that, i think a lot of people might take you up on it and feel inspired and involved. oh, you'll and to be involved. oh, you'll make dana had make friends for life. dana had her make friends for life. dana had nor-snows— make friends for life. dana had her shows in america and her own shows in america and everything. yeah yeah, big time. but there we go. so much to talk about. we're all right. and this eurovision week and the final choir then the final of choir camp and then the final of eurovision on saturday. but no, ireland. they're lovely. lovely to see you, my good friend . to see you, my good friend. remember the day i went to your house? yeah. de—man was just rerniniing— house? yeah. de—man was just rerniniing nne— house? yeah. de—man was just rerniniing i— house? yeah. de—man was just reminding me, i said.- , yeah. de—man was just reminding me, i said. '“i: , yeah. de—man was just reminding me, i said. “i: reminding me, i said. and you fed reminding me, i said. and you iei nne— reminding me, i said. and you iei nne oeo-b— reminding me, i said. and you fed me cakes. would i do that to you? it was lovely. it was lovely. and your beautiful daughters and everything . all daughters and everything. all thank you. so lovely. it thank you. it's so lovely. it was lovely day. very, very was a lovely day. very, very nice. was a lovely day. very, very ani— was a lovely day. very, very nice. and you're— i:ey very, very nice. and you're welcome. any iinne. — nice. and you're welcome. any iinne—bini. - nice. and you're welcome. anyi time. _kind. thank time. you're very kind. thank you— time. you're very kind. thankj you—indeed. right. you very much indeed. right. we'll have more— you very much indeed. right. we'll have more on- “j.“ 3: right. we'll have more on donald “j.“ :: right. we'll have more on donald trump oiier— we'll have more on donald trump oiier ibis— we'll have more on donald trump oiier inis . — we'll have more on donald trump after this . hello,— we'll have more on donald trump after this . hello, over.- we'll have more on donald trump after this. e: after this. hello, over. good morning to you. i'm aidan mcgivern with the latest gb news forecast from the met office some sunny spells, especially in the east this morning, but it's going to turn increasingly

cloudy the west with heavy cloudy from the west with heavy showers starting once again. now those showers are already with us in the west because we've got low pressure feeding and occluded front in further east. yesterday's heavy downpours have cleared, but we've got more on the way for the rest of today. so cloudier conditions in the west slowly making their way eastwards and then showers just about possible anywhere into the afternoon. but particularly inland, particularly for central and eastern parts of england into scotland. these into central scotland. these showers where they do occur will be very lively . again, some be very lively. again, some thunder , some hail in places, thunder, some hail in places, and they'll be slow moving. not everyone will catch a shower in between the showers, especially around some around coast. there'll be some sunshine will sunshine and temperatures will reach to high teens , reach the mid to high teens, dfier reach the mid to high teens, drier towards the far north of scotland . but here there's lots scotland. but here there's lots of cloud mist and that's of low cloud and mist and that's certainly eastern and certainly affecting eastern and northern scotland during wednesday night. northern scotland during wednesday night . elsewhere, some wednesday night. elsewhere, some clear spells, but further showery rain will affect northern ireland, western scotland, western parts of england and wales. some more

persistent rain possible in some spots across northern ireland. temperatures again dipping to around the mid to high single figures, 10 or 11 in 1 or 2 spots, but a generally cloudy start to thursday, particularly towards the west. the cloud and the showery rain will once again move east through the day and by the afternoon it's a mix of sunny spells and showers. once again, the showers will be hit and they're not going and miss. they're not going to affect everyone especially affect everyone and especially around coasts . there will around coasts. there will be some sunshine between . some sunshine in between. temperatures reaching 17, perhaps 18 celsius. so a slight cooling trend later this week before those temperatures rise again into the weekend because from friday, especially in the north and into saturday across the whole of the uk , drier and the whole of the uk, drier and sunnier weather is on the way. and as a result, temperatures will rise .

donald trump's presidential bid hangsin - donald trump's presidential bid nongs in ine— . donald trump's presidential bid hangs in the balance— . donald trump's presidential bid hangs in the balance as— donald trump's presidential bid hangs in the balance as he's orierei— hangs in the balance as he's orierei io— hangs in the balance as he's orierei io bov— hangs in the balance as he's ordered to pay his sexual abuse. vioiirn— ordered to pay his sexual abuse. vioiirn ib— ordered to pay his sexual abuse. victim $5 million.— ordered to pay his sexual abuse. victim $5 million. hello there . victim $5 million. hello there. 9:01,— victim $5 million. hello there. 9:01, wednesday,— victim $5 million. hello there. 9:01, wednesday, the- victim $5 million. hello there. 9:01, wednesday, the 10th- victim $5 million. hello there. 9:01, wednesday, the 10th of may. you're tuned into breakfast on gb news with eamonn and isabel. here's on gb news with eamonn and isabel . here's what's leading isabel. here's what's leading the

isabel. here's what's leading be news— isabel. here's what's leading the news this— here's what's leading the news this morning. a jury in ben— the news this morning. a jury in new york-s— the news this morning. a jury in new york's decided that donald nonb— new york's decided that donald irnrnb seonobbv— new york's decided that donald trump sexually abused the writer e trump sexually abused the writer ereon— trump sexually abused the writer bbeon corrob— trump sexually abused the writer e jean carroll in— trump sexually abused the writer e jean carroll in the 90s. but reieoiei— e jean carroll in the 90s. but reieoiei ine — e jean carroll in the 90s. but rejected the claim that he raped ner. — rejected the claim that he raped ner. iieooiing— rejected the claim that he raped her. reacting to— rejected the claim that he raped her. reacting to the verdict, nonb— her. reacting to the verdict, irnrnb oobbei— her. reacting to the verdict, trump called it— her. reacting to the verdict, trump called it part of the biggesi— trump called it part of the biggest witch— trump called it part of the biggest witch of all time . biggest witch hunt of all time. ine— biggest witch hunt of all time. ibe nonre— biggest witch hunt of all time. the home secretary— biggest witch hunt of all time. the home secretary has- biggest witch hunt of all time. the home secretary has warned the house of lords not to defy the house of lords not to defy the will of the british people as peers prepare to debate the illegal migration bill for the first time. her comments follow the arrival of a barge set to house asylum seekers . the house asylum seekers. the government was right to hand police extra powers , says the police extra powers, says the prime minister, as the backlash continues to the arrest of anti—monarchy protesters. it comes as the mayor of london iebbs— comes as the mayor of london iebbs ine— comes as the mayor of london tells the met— comes as the mayor of london tells the met to— comes as the mayor of london tells the met to conduct a oi— tells the met to conduct a review of coronation policing oni— review of coronation policing oni g.— review of coronation policing oni sir beb— review of coronation policing and sir keir starmer has refused to and sir keir starmer has refused io rube— and sir keir starmer has refused io rnbe oni— and sir keir starmer has refused io rnbe oni o— and sir keir starmer has refused to rule out a coalition with the lib to rule out a coalition with the bib berns— to rule out a coalition with the bib berns ii— to rule out a coalition with the lib dems if labour fails to win a lib dems if labour fails to win o nor-onio— lib dems if labour fails to win o rnoioriiv oi— lib dems if labour fails to win a majority at the— lib dems if labour fails to win a majority at the next election. boobie— a majority at the next election. bespiie major— a majority at the next election. despite major gains— a majority at the next election. despite major gains in- a majority at the next election. despite major gains in the- a majority at the next election. despite major gains in the local elections, pollsters are in doubt the party can secure an overall majority . and we're all overall majority. and we're all also overall majority. and we're all obso osbing—

overall majority. and we're all obso osbing yon— overall majority. and we're all also asking you this- cy and we're all also asking you this morning to very— also asking you this morning to very binibv— also asking you this morning to very binibv cosi— also asking you this morning to very kindly cast your votes. if you— very kindly cast your votes. if you ion-i— very kindly cast your votes. if you don't mind,— very kindly cast your votes. if you don't mind, for us here on gb you don't mind, for us here on on news— you don't mind, for us here on gb news breakfast in the boiionob— gb news breakfast in the national reality tv awards and the national reality tv awards and be iiiic— national reality tv awards and the tric awards. _ national reality tv awards and the tric awards. and you can obso— the tric awards. and you can obso noie— the tric awards. and you can also vote for— the tric awards. and you can also vote for the _ the tric awards. and you can also vote for the very special bornonn— also vote for the very special eamonn holmes,— also vote for the very special eamonn holmes, who is up again for eamonn holmes, who is up again ior besi— eamonn holmes, who is up again for best presenter— eamonn holmes, who is up again for best presenter at the trick. i for best presenter at the trick. i ibinb— for best presenter at the trick. i ibinb ine— for best presenter at the trick. i think the best— for best presenter at the trick. i think the best thing- for best presenter at the trick. i think the best thing to- for best presenter at the trick. i think the best thing to do- for best presenter at the trick. i think the best thing to do is maybe go to the gb news well, i don't know if they're doing go to my instagram. if you're on insiogrorn— to my instagram. if you're on instagram, i'll— to my instagram. if you're on instagram, i'll try— to my instagram. if you're on instagram, i'll try-it. instagram, i'll try and put it on inner.— instagram, i'll try and put it on twitter. my— instagram, i'll try and put it on twitter. my instagram and my inner— on twitter. my instagram and my iniiier oni— on twitter. my instagram and my twitter and sort— on twitter. my instagram and my twitter and sort of— on twitter. my instagram and my twitter and sort of if you click on inoi— twitter and sort of if you click on inoi. yon-ib— twitter and sort of if you click on that, you'll-a- twitter and sort of if you click on that, you'll a way, a on that, you'll see a way, a binb— on that, you'll see a way, a binb io— on that, you'll see a way, a binb io obi— on that, you'll see a way, a link to all-these- on that, you'll see a way, a link to all these things. link to all of these things. boi— link to all of these things. bni i— link to all of these things. bni i nonbi— link to all of these things. but i would think- link to all of these things. but i would think if- link to all of these things. but i would think if doing but i would think if we're doing it for one it's like it for one thing, it's like diana that previous diana said in that previous interview , it's about giving interview, it's about giving people a voice who feel they're not connected or they don't have anything one's anything to say, and no one's listening and whatever listening to them. and whatever you our program in you think of our our program in the breakfast section for 3.5 hours every day, we do try and ask the questions or put the scenario those that no one else is doing and not just following the press releases . yeah, the press releases. yeah, absolutely. and this program was only— absolutely. and this program was onbv bonnonei— absolutely. and this program was only launched last— ci1:1cy and this program was only launched last january. and to

only launched last january. and io be— only launched last january. and io be ob— only launched last january. and io be ob inere— only launched last january. and to be up there with well—established programs that none— well—established programs that none-oonno— well—established programs that have around decades is have been around for decades is an have been around for decades is on nononr ani— have been around for decades is an honour. and we— have been around for decades is an honour. and we would love your— an honour. and we would love your noie— an honour. and we would love your vote-please,- an honour. and we would love your vote. please, you've your vote. so please, you've only— your vote. so please, you've onbv-iriiov- your vote. so please, you've only-fridaylcastl only got till friday to cast it oni— only got till friday to cast it oniinoubi— only got till friday to cast it and-would be- only got till friday to cast it and would be very grateful, and we would be very grateful, nerv— and we would be very grateful, nerv groieiub— and we would be very grateful, nerv groieiub .— and we would be very grateful, nerv groieiub . — and we would be very grateful, very grateful . robbin . and we would be very grateful, very grateful . ionic: . e“: very grateful. well, viewers and listeners, our top story this morning is that a jury in the usa has found that donald trump did sexually abuse magazine writer e jean carroll in the 1990s. the former president was 19905. the former president was orierei— 19905. the former president was orierei io — 19905. the former president was orierei io bov— 19905. the former president was ordered to pay her— hq the former president was ordered to pay her $5 million in iornoges— ordered to pay her $5 million in iornoges oiier— ordered to pay her $5 million in damages after the— ordered to pay her $5 million in damages after the jury found his comments, calling— damages after the jury found his comments, calling the accusations- comments, calling the accusations a- comments, calling the accusations a hoax and a lie had norrnei— accusations a hoax and a lie had norrnei ner— accusations a hoax and a lie had harmed her reputation. \r::bni1 harmed her reputation. now, oiier— harmed her reputation. now, oiier ine— harmed her reputation. now, after the verdict— harmed her reputation. now, after the verdict ,_ harmed her reputation. now, after the verdict , trump took to after the verdict, trump took to his social media platform truth social to deny he actually knew miss carol. i have absolutely no idea who this woman is. the verdict is a disgrace .- : 1“ the verdict is a disgrace . it's verdict is a disgrace. it's a continuation— verdict is a disgrace. it's a continuation of— verdict is a disgrace. it's a continuation of the greatest niion— continuation of the greatest niion nuni— continuation of the greatest witch hunt of— continuation of the greatest witch hunt of all time . well, witch hunt of all time. well, eorbier— witch hunt of all time. well, eorbier ne— witch hunt of all time. well, earlier we spoke _ witch hunt of all time. well, earlier we spoke to the american oiiornev. — earlier we spoke to the american attorney, gloria _ earlier we spoke to the american attorney, gloria allred, who

iobb— attorney, gloria allred, who iobi us— attorney, gloria allred, who told us that— attorney, gloria allred, who told us that trump's previous sooniobs— told us that trump's previous scandals had— told us that trump's previous scandals had damaged his chances of scandals had damaged his chances oi ninning— scandals had damaged his chances oi ninning ine— scandals had damaged his chances of winning the case. ionic: c of winning the case. well, it ieiiniieby— of winning the case. well, it definitely is a victory for kyiv e jean carroll, an and she alleged that she was raped. and even though the jury did not find in this civil lawsuit that she was in fact raped, instead finds that she was sexually abused. finds that she was sexually abused . and they also did find abused. and they also did find that she was defamed and they found in favour of her to the extent of $5 million in damages. so she was certainly helped by that access hollywood tape, which was played for the jury and played for donald trump in his deposition . in his his deposition. in his deposition testimony under oath before the trial . and he was before the trial. and he was asked about that by miss carol's attorney and he stood his ground on the access hollywood tape and didn't try to get out from under it based hinckley affirmed that

he believed that if you're a star depher, you know, you can grab a woman by her genital area. and of course, he used a pejorative term for that . so he pejorative term for that. so he indicated , yes, he's a star and indicated, yes, he's a star and i don't think that helped him with the jury. and then he didn't testify in front of the juryr didn't testify in front of the jury, which he didn't have to do, but that would have been a complete disaster if he had done that, because he can't help but lie. that's what he does like talking to gloria allred . i talking to gloria allred. i mean, she just shoots from talking to gloria allred. i- mean, she just shoots from the nib. — mean, she just shoots from the nib. sne— mean, she just shoots from the nib. sne sovs— mean, she just shoots from the nib. sne sovs ii— mean, she just shoots from the hip. she says it as— mean, she just shoots from the hip. she says it as it is. i was busi— hip. she says it as it is. i was iusi booking— hip. she says it as it is. i was just looking for— hip. she says it as it is. i was just looking for the mirror ooiuobbn— just looking for the mirror actuallyr in— just looking for the mirror actually, in amongst all the robbers— actually, in amongst all the. papers—headlines papers because the headlines nere. — papers because the headlines nere. -irunnb- papers because the headlines here. -trump the- papers because the headlines here. _trump the sex. here. yeah. trump the sex attacker i mean such attacker and i mean such damaging headlines here in the uk. finish any uk. they would finish any british politician the question we to assistant we will pose to the assistant editor cindy yu editor of the spectator cindy yu now this is the end for now is this is this the end for trump or is he untouchable? well, i don't think he's untouchable, it's certainly untouchable, but it's certainly not end. in fact , you know, not the end. in fact, you know, his not the end. in fact, you know, bis-nos— not the end. in fact, you know, his-has already- not the end. in fact, you know, his-has already come- e“: in fact, you know, his has already come out his base has already come out oni— his base has already come out oni soig.— his base has already come out oni soii. ne— his base has already come out and said, we don't—

his base has already come out and said, we don't believe this. ibis— and said, we don't believe this. ibis is— and said, we don't believe this. ibis is vei— and said, we don't believe this. this is yet another— and said, we don't believe this. this is yet another legal witch nuni— this is yet another legal witch hunt-donald- this is yet another legal witch hunt donald trump . and hunt against donald trump. and sorneiies— hunt against donald trump. and sometimes they— hunt against donald trump. and sometimes they have value . they sometimes they have value. they bone— sometimes they have value. they bonelboini— sometimes they have value. they bonelboini in— sometimes they have value. they have point in saying that. but have a point in saying that. but obso.— have a point in saying that. but obso. vou— have a point in saying that. but obso. you know.— have a point in saying that. but also, you know, was the iiiiereni— also, you know, was the different criminal and civil iriobs— different criminal and civil iriobs noy— different criminal and civil iriobs noy ub— different criminal and civil trials way up, it does become border— trials way up, it does become ever harder to— trials way up, it does become ever harder to kind of your oeroeg— ever harder to kind of your average normal— ever harder to kind of your average normal swing voter, your rnoieroie— average normal swing voter, your rnoieroie noier— average normal swing voter, your moderate voter to— average normal swing voter, your moderate voter to really go for binn— moderate voter to really go for bin .— moderate voter to really go for bin . so— moderate voter to really go for bin . so i— moderate voter to really go for him . so i think— moderate voter to really go for him . so i think the base will him. so i think the base will obonge— him. so i think the base will never change their mind about binn- — never change their mind about birn. ii— never change their mind about binn- ii busi— never change their mind about him. it just reminds- never change their mind about him. “3b; never change their mind about him. c “3b; him. it just reminds us all i suppose, how entrenched politics him. it just reminds us all i suin ose, how entrenched politics him. it just reminds us all i suin america. entrenched politics him. it just reminds us all i suin america. entrenlitics is in america. you're either, you know , come what may your you know, come what may your your liberal, your come, what may. you're effectively a trump supporter or you're kind of an undecided added, one undecided added, but no one seems what happens seems to care what happens either whether biden's either way, whether biden's half asleep it might be, asleep or whatever it might be, or whether trump's sexually assaulting just vote assaulting women. they just vote along colour lines. yeah, i mean, the options- g e” c yeah, i mean, the options are not great, are mean, the options are not great, ibeye— mean, the options are not great, ibeyelrneon— mean, the options are not great, are they? mean, but then are they? i mean, but then ogoin— are they? i mean, but then again,.british- are they? i mean, but then again, british politics, again, in british politics, oiien— again, in british politics, often great often the options are not great eiiber— often the options are not great either—problemsl often the options are not greatj either—problems . either. politics is problems. so, okay, listen, what happens now? because he's going to appeal this based on some of the stuff that was included , stuff that was included, including the transcript from the hollywood the access hollywood tape where he these claims that you

he made these claims that you could anyone if you were could grab anyone if you were a star. you didn't even have to ask. but he's saying that's totally irrelevant. that's prejudicial. yes. totally irrelevant. that's prejudicial . yes. well, he he's prejudicial. yes. well, he he's going— prejudicial. yes. well, he he's going io— prejudicial. yes. well, he he's going to appeal— prejudicial. yes. well, he he's going to appeal and- : ie. yes. well, he he's going to appeal and while he's ogoeobing— going to appeal and while he's obbeobing ne— going to appeal and while he's appealing, he doesn't have to pay— appealing, he doesn't have to boy-nibbion.- appealing, he doesn't have to pay-million. so- appealing, he doesn't have to pay-million. so i- appealing, he doesn't have to pay million. so i guess pay that $5 million. so i guess boning— pay that $5 million. so i guess having-dragging- pay that $5 million. so i guess having dragging in the having this dragging out in the souris— having this dragging out in the sourislsorne— having this dragging out in the courts-some ways- having this dragging out in the courts some ways is good courts in some ways is good for sonnelbis— courts in some ways is good for some his supporters because some of his supporters because ibey-bb— some of his supporters because ibey-bb-nebb— some of his supporters because they'll-well,-know,l they'll think, well, you know, bonobi — they'll think, well, you know,i bonobi—boob. donald trump is fighting back, iigniing— fighting back against the new york— fighting back against the new york liberal— fighting back against the new york liberal-all- fighting back against the new york liberal all this york liberal elite, all of this sori— york liberal elite, all of this| sort of stuff. again, it comes boob— sort of stuff. again, it comes boob bonn— sort of stuff. again, it comes back down to— sort of stuff. again, it comes back down to the— sort of stuff. again, it comes back down to the moderate swing oie— back down to the moderate swing noiers-bui— back down to the moderate swing noiers-bui iurn- back down to the moderate swing voters. put turn them voters. does this put turn them oiie— voters. does this put turn them one no — voters. does this put turn them off? and actually,— voters. does this put turn them off? and actually, when it comes to off? and actually, when it comes io—ossoubil off? and actually, when it comes io—ossoubi. osi to trump and sexual assault, as you— to trump and sexual assault, as you-webb— to trump and sexual assault, as you-nebb ii— to trump and sexual assault, as you-well, it would- to trump and sexual assault, as you well, it would kill, you say as well, it would kill, you— you say as well, it would kill, you-besser— you say as well, it would kill, you lesser politician . you know, a lesser politician. bui— you know, a lesser politician. bui ior— you know, a lesser politician. bui ior binn— you know, a lesser politician. but for him, that— you know, a lesser politician. but for him, that the access bobbynooi— but for him, that the access hollywood tape— but for him, that the access hollywood tape has been out for yeors— hollywood tape has been out for yeors oni— hollywood tape has been out for yeors oni ii— hollywood tape has been out for years and it didn't— hollywood tape has been out for years and it didn't damage him in zone — years and it didn't damage him in zone so— years and it didn't damage him in 2016. so who— years and it didn't damage him in 2016. so who knows? c “3y in 2016. so who knows? cindy, insi— in 2016. so who knows? cindy, iusi nobi— in 2016. so who knows? cindy, just hold that thought because we pat mcfadden, the shadow we have pat mcfadden, the shadow chief secretary to the treasury and available with a number of things to talk to pat about. and we'll come we'll come straight back to you. pat mcfadden. and i presume could hear what presume you could hear what cindy saying. we're cindy yu was saying. we're talking trump and talking about donald trump and how, you know, what's been associated with his name. pat. would finish any politician in

britain. i mean, just from from his personal life alone and his his personal life alone and his his opinions of women and things like that . but what's different like that. but what's different in the usa ? what's different in the usa? what's different that he can still survive? i mean, we're not sure that even this latest case would finish a president run. it may well do, but not necessarily so. pat . but not necessarily so. pat. well i'll you know, i think we should be careful about getting in a glass house and lecturing people in the united states. but across politics, whether iis— but across politics, whether ii-s bere— but across politics, whether ii-s bere or— but across politics, whether it's here or there, i would say we sboubi— it's here or there, i would say we should be— it's here or there, i would say we should be careful not to noobse— we should be careful not to normalise things as there would not normalise things as there would noi be— normalise things as there would not be normalised— normalise things as there would not be normalised in the past. i o ooubbe— not be normalised in the past. i mean, a couple of— not be normalised in the past. i mean, a couple of years ago, you eiieoiineby— mean, a couple of years ago, you effectively had— mean, a couple of years ago, you effectively had an— mean, a couple of years ago, you effectively had an attempted ooub— effectively had an attempted soup in— effectively had an attempted soup in ine— effectively had an attempted coup in the united states to ieny— coup in the united states to ieny ine— coup in the united states to deny the result— coup in the united states to deny the result of the presidential- deny the result of the presidential election. you've boi— presidential election. you've noi obi— presidential election. you've had all this.— presidential election. you've had all this. donald trump once soii— had all this. donald trump once said something— had all this. donald trump once said something along the lines, i said something along the lines, i nigni— said something along the lines, i rnigbi noi— said something along the lines, i might not have— said something along the lines, i might not have this exact, but it i might not have this exact, but ii os— i might not have this exact, but it was something— i might not have this exact, but it was something along the lines of i it was something along the lines oi i ooubi—

it was something along the lines of i could shoot— it was something along the lines of i could shoot someone on biiib— of i could shoot someone on fifth avenue _ of i could shoot someone on fifth avenue and— of i could shoot someone on fifth avenue and it wouldn't nnobe— fifth avenue and it wouldn't rnobe ony— fifth avenue and it wouldn't make any difference to my subborier— make any difference to my subborier os— make any difference to my supporter was, yeah, and that's bon— supporter was, yeah, and that's how entrenched— supporter was, yeah, and that's how entrenched things are there. so how entrenched things are there. so so— how entrenched things are there. so so oi— how entrenched things are there. so so of course— how entrenched things are there. so so of course we'll have our ien— so so of course we'll have our bui— so so of course we'll have our bui ne— so so of course we'll have our view, but we should take care oboui— view, but we should take care about standards— view, but we should take care about standards in our own bobbies— about standards in our own bobiiios ioo— about standards in our own politics too, of— about standards in our own politics too, of course. but the difference is, pat, the difference is, pat, the difference is, pat, your leader can't even say i might be open to a pact with the lib dems because he's worried about that. finishing his electoral chances are not a point i'm trying to get to is surely there's a way of just saying straight if i need them , i'd come on board. need them, i'd come on board. i wouldn't be against asking the lib dems. but at the moment we don't need them. is there not a way that he can sort of say yes and say no at the same time ? i and say no at the same time? i thought that was a very neat binoi— thought that was a very neat binoi inere— thought that was a very neat pivot there from _ thought that was a very neat pivot there from two very iiiiereni— pivot there from two very different subjects . look, i different subjects. look, i ibinb— different subjects. look, i ibinb ibis— different subjects. look, i think this question about pacts and coalitions— think this question about pacts and coalitions is— think this question about pacts and coalitions is very presumptuous . you know, people

presumptuous. you know, people noiobing— presumptuous. you know, people were watching your program or the were watching your program or ibe oie— were watching your program or ibe oie in— were watching your program or the voters in my— were watching your program or the voters in my constituency . the voters in my constituency. nnoi— the voters in my constituency. nboi ibey— the voters in my constituency. what they want— the voters in my constituency. what they want to know is that our politicians— what they want to know is that our politicians working hard to sobe— our politicians working hard to sobne ibe— our politicians working hard to solve the country's problems and book— solve the country's problems and book oui— solve the country's problems and book oui ior— solve the country's problems and look out for their— solve the country's problems and look out for their interests. voue— look out for their interests. voue goi— look out for their interests. you've got interest rates brobobby— you've got interest rates probably going up tomorrow. a lot probably going up tomorrow. a boi oi— probably going up tomorrow. a lot of problems— probably going up tomorrow. a lot of problems with the cost of bining — lot of problems with the cost of bining oui— lot of problems with the cost of living out there. _ lot of problems with the cost of living out there. they don't noni— living out there. they don't noni io— living out there. they don't want to hear— living out there. they don't want to hear politicians making bresurnbiions— want to hear politicians making presumptions about what might bobben— presumptions about what might bobben oiier— presumptions about what might happen after the— presumptions about what might happen after the next election. i happen after the next election. i io— happen after the next election. i do ieob— happen after the next election. i do deal with— happen after the next election. i do deal with this person or a coobiiion— i do deal with this person or a coalition with— i do deal with this person or a coalition with that person. so you— coalition with that person. so you know.— coalition with that person. so you know. in— coalition with that person. so you bnon. in o— coalition with that person. so you know, i'm a football man and i you know, i'm a football man and iibinb— you know, i'm a football man and iibinb you— you know, i'm a football man and iibinb you oe— you know, i'm a football man and i think you are to— you know, i'm a football man and i think you are to him. and inere-s— i think you are to him. and inere-s o— i think you are to him. and there's a saying— i think you are to him. and there's a saying in football, you-bi— there's a saying in football, you-bi be— there's a saying in football, you'll be familiar with, which is you— you'll be familiar with, which is you sboubi— you'll be familiar with, which is you should do— you'll be familiar with, which is you should do your talking on the is you should do your talking on ibe oiien— is you should do your talking on ibe biion .— is you should do your talking on ibe biion . ani— is you should do your talking on the pitch . and i— is you should do your talking on the pitch . and i think politics the pitch. and i think politics sboubi— the pitch. and i think politics should maybe— the pitch. and i think politics should maybe take a lesson from inoi— should maybe take a lesson from iboi roiber— should maybe take a lesson from that rather than _ should maybe take a lesson from that rather than making in presumptuous— that rather than making in presumptuous statements about nnoi— presumptuous statements about nboi sboubi— presumptuous statements about what should happen afterwards. were— what should happen afterwards. were oirning— what should happen afterwards. we're aiming for— what should happen afterwards. we're aiming for labour we're aiming for a labour rnoioriiy— we're aiming for a labour rnoioriiy oi— we're aiming for a labour majority at the- we're aiming for a labour majority at the next election. iboi-s— majority at the next election. iboi-s nboi— majority at the next election. that's what we _ majority at the next election. that's what we want. but we've got that's what we want. but we've goi io — that's what we want. but we've goi io gei— that's what we want. but we've goi io gei ibe— that's what we want. but we've got to get the trust of the beobbe— got to get the trust of the beobbe io — got to get the trust of the beobbe io io — got to get the trust of the people to do that and that's the job people to do that and that's the iob were— people to do that and that's the job we're focussed_ people to do that and that's the job we're focussed on. yes, but to-,_ job we're focussed on. yes, but io-1wben— job we're focussed on. yes, but io-. wben you- job we're focussed on. yes, but to-, when you say- job we're focussed on. yes, but to , when you say they to be clear, when you say they sboubin-i— to be clear, when you say they shouldn't-talking- to be clear, when you say they shouldn't talking about what

shouldn't be talking about what bobbens—onil happens after the election and yet happens after the election and yei-siorrner— happens after the election and yet starmer talked happens after the election and yet what starmer talked happens after the election and yet what wouldbr talked happens after the election and yet what would happen lked happens after the election and yet what would happen after about what would happen after the about what would happen after ibe—cones- about what would happen after ibe—cones io| the election when it comes to ibe— the election when it comes to ibe-bes— the election when it comes to the-he's ruled- the election when it comes to the he's ruled that the election when it comes to- the-he's ruled that out. the snp and he's ruled that out. so the snp and he's ruled that out. so ibe— the snp and he's ruled that out. so ibe booi— the snp and he's ruled that out. so the fact that— the snp and he's ruled that out. so the fact that he— the snp and he's ruled that out. so the fact that he actually- so the fact that he actually doesn't want to admit that he probably go into a deal probably would go into a deal with because with the lib dems because he knows people wouldn't knows a lot of people wouldn't really coalition in. really want a coalition in. well, two points i'd make in response to that when it comes to the snp, it's not really specular ation about what would happen after election . happen after the election. that's a comment on such a fundamental— that's a comment on such a fundamental difference here, were— fundamental difference here, wbereyou— fundamental difference here, where you've got one party, inere— where you've got one party, ibere iboi— where you've got one party, there that wants— where you've got one party, there that wants to break up the bniiei— there that wants to break up the united kingdom.— there that wants to break up the united kingdom. that's the nnobe. — united kingdom. that's the nnobe. so— united kingdom. that's the whole. so you— united kingdom. that's the whole. 31:“ c whole. so you don't have fundamental differences with the lib dems, for example, on the european union or perhaps on proportional representation . in proportional representation. in oh dear. well, we are we are not a oh dear. well, we are we are not o noiionobisi— oh dear. well, we are we are not a nationalist party. _ oh dear. well, we are we are not a nationalist party. we- cj“ : well, we are we are not a nationalist party. rabbi; a nationalist party. we want to been— a nationalist party. we want to keep the uk together . and that's keep the uk together. and that's a fundamental difference . but a fundamental difference. but it's not a comment about what might happen after the election . you know, we'll be in scotland and we'll be fighting to keep

the uk together. and in fact, i would argue the labour party is the best placed of all the political parties in the uk to keep the uk together because i think we hopefully after the next election will be in a position where we've got good representation in scotland, england and in wales. but to be clear , are you saying then you clear, are you saying then you don't have fundamental differences with the liberal democrats who have openly said that they would like to reverse the vote, that they would the brexit vote, that they would like change the way people like to change the way people vote country? perhaps vote in this country? perhaps in favour-proportional- favour of proportional representation in. no i'm saying iboi— representation in. no i'm saying iboi were— representation in. no i'm saying that we're aiming— representation in. no i'm saying that we're aiming for a majority bobour— that we're aiming for a majority labour government and actually we i— labour government and actually we i bobe— labour government and actually we i bobe inoi— labour government and actually we i hope that if— labour government and actually we i hope that if we get a rnoioriiy— we i hope that if we get a majority labour- we i hope that if we get a majority labour government it ioesn-i— majority labour government it ioesn-i busi— majority labour government it doesn't just happen once because i doesn't just happen once because i ion-i— doesn't just happen once because i ion-i noni— doesn't just happen once because i ion-i woni o— doesn't just happen once because i don't want a labour government just i don't want a labour government iusi io— i don't want a labour government iusi io be— i don't want a labour government iusi io be o— i don't want a labour government iusi io be o sori— i don't want a labour government just to be a sort of— i don't want a labour government just to be a sort of speed bump or an interregnum_ just to be a sort of speed bump or an interregnum between two beriois— or an interregnum between two periods oi— or an interregnum between two beriois oi iory— or an interregnum between two periods of tory government. i ibinb— periods of tory government. i ibinb ibe— periods of tory government. i think the tories— periods of tory government. i think the tories have- periods of tory government. i think the tories have such think the tories have made such a mess of running the country over past 13 years that it's over the past 13 years that it's going a long time to going to take a long time to turn things around. and that's why in my job as a shadow

treasury spokesperson, i'm always very careful to say that when it comes to the manifesto, everything will be very carefully costed and funded and that we don't over promise and try to promise things that we can't deliver. i think it's going to take time to turn the country round. so i'm looking to a majority labour government. maybe not even once, but maybe not even just once, but twice. can maybe not even just once, but twice . can i ask you about the twice. can i ask you about the ibbegob— twice. can i ask you about the illegal migration— re.r1:1 can i ask you about the illegal migration bill that's going— illegal migration bill that's going inio— illegal migration bill that's going into the— illegal migration bill that's going into the lords today? the arobbisbob— going into the lords today? the arobbisbob oi— going into the lords today? the archbishop of canterbury on the ironi— archbishop of canterbury on the ironi-eye— archbishop of canterbury on the ironi-eye ioioy- archbishop of canterbury on the front eye today ready to front of the eye today ready to bone — front of the eye today ready to bone _obosb — front of the eye today ready to have _clash with - front of the eye today ready to have clash with number 10. have a big clash with number 10. do you— have a big clash with number 10. do you ibinb— have a big clash with number 10. do you think that— have a big clash with number 10. do you think that the archbishop sboubi— do you think that the archbishop sboubi ioioy— do you think that the archbishop should foray into— do you think that the archbishop should foray into politics? webb— should foray into politics? webb. newe— should foray into politics? well, we've got— should foray into politics? well, we've got this- should foray into politics? well, we've got this system in the united kingdom where we have members of the clergy who are members of the clergy who are members of the clergy who are members of our legislature. that's part of our constitution. so he's got a right to his view. and every time he or any other leading archbishop or bishop says something political, they'll always be those who say

stick to your day job. but as long as it's part of our constitution to have four members of the house of lords who are also bishops and archbishops, then they've got a right to speak about legislation. so constitutionally , yes, he does have a right to his view . yeah. well, pat, you his view. yeah. well, pat, you do your talking on the pitch . do your talking on the pitch. i'll try to. thank you very much. okay. thank you very much inieei. — much. okay. thank you very much inieei. boi— 1“.e“ okay. thank you very much indeed. pat mcfadden's “j“ okay. thank you very much indeed. pat mcfadden's the sboiow— indeed. pat mcfadden's the shadow chief— indeed. pat mcfadden's the shadow chief secretary to the ireosury. — shadow chief secretary to the ireosury. ani— shadow chief secretary to the treasury. and a— shadow chief secretary to the treasury. and a very sunny day ibere— treasury. and a very sunny day ibere on— treasury. and a very sunny day there on westminster , a very there on westminster, a very sunny— there on westminster, a very sunny booking— there on westminster, a very sunny looking pitch behind it is i sunny looking pitch behind it is i neei— sunny looking pitch behind it is i neei io— sunny looking pitch behind it is i neei io gei— sunny looking pitch behind it is i neei io gei ny— sunny looking pitch behind it is i need to get my cap on. b/i1:1~er i need to get my cap on. yes, indeed. — i need to get my cap on. yes, indeed. iigni— i need to get my cap on. yes, indeed. right. with the time at 9:15, let's bring you up to date with the rest of today's top stories. another phone hacking trial involving the duke of sussex begins today. prince harry is sussex begins today. prince borry is suing— sussex begins today. prince harry is suing mirror- :1ii1:1g : prince harry is suing mirror group newsbobers— harry is suing mirror group newspapers over what he's sobbing— newspapers over what he's calling unlawful information goinering— calling unlawful information gathering with— calling unlawful information gathering with the tabloid is soniesiing— gathering with the tabloid is contesting the— gathering with the tabloid is contesting the claims . it argues contesting the claims. it argues iboi— contesting the claims. it argues iboi sonne— contesting the claims. it argues that some have— contesting the claims. it argues that some have been brought far too that some have been brought far ioo boie—

that some have been brought far ioo boie . — that some have been brought far ioo boie . ibe— that some have been brought far too late . the first— that some have been brought far too late . �*" too late. the first baby with dna from three people has been born in the uk following a special ivf procedure. the treatment aims to prevent the passing on of defective genes from mothers by giving the baby dna from its mother, father and a female donor. parts of england bowe— a female donor. parts of england bone been— a female donor. parts of england bone been bii— a female donor. parts of england have been hit by— 71:1 : parts of england have been hit by hailstorms, beowy— have been hit by hailstorms, beowy roin— have been hit by hailstorms, heavy rain and— have been hit by hailstorms, heavy rain and thunder with yebbow— heavy rain and thunder with yellow weather— heavy rain and thunder with yellow weather warnings in place uniib— yellow weather warnings in place uniib iobbo— yellow weather warnings in place until 10:00-the- yellow weather warnings in place until 10:00 the met until 10:00 tonight. the met eiibe— until 10:00 tonight. the met biiioe-beowy— until 10:00 tonight. the met office heavy showers with office says heavy showers with the office says heavy showers with ibe-oi— office says heavy showers with the-of thunder— office says heavy showers with the of thunder hail the risk of thunder and hail nibb— the risk of thunder and hail wibb rersisi— the risk of thunder and hail will persist. that's going will persist. and that's going to will persist. and that's going iolower— will persist. and that's going iolower ibe— will persist. and that's going to.over the next- will persist. and that's going to over the next two days . to be over the next two days. a sneob— to be over the next two days. a sneob preview— to be over the next two days. a sneak preview now— to be over the next two days. a sneak preview now of to the boini— sneak preview now of to the boini in— sneak preview now of to the boini in ii— sneak preview now of to the point in 15 minutes time with anirew— point in 15 minutes time with andrew pierce— point in 15 minutes time with andrew pierce and beverly turner iurne.— andrew pierce and beverly turner iurne. booi— andrew pierce and beverly turner turner. good morning. good morning.— turner. good morning. good morning. good— turner. good morning. good morning. good morning. good morning.— morning. good morning. good morning-_you- morning. good morning. good morning—you hoti morning. what's got you hot unier— morning. what's got you hot under-collar— morning. what's got you hot under collar today? trump under the collar today? trump neon.— under the collar today? trump weob. iboi-s— under the collar today? trump weob. iboi-s o— under the collar today? trump yeah, that's a very nice collar youe— yeah, that's a very nice collar you goi— yeah, that's a very nice collar you've got there. _ yeah, that's a very nice collar you've got there. thank you. webb— you've got there. thank you. web-oni— you've got there. thank you. well,-and _justl well, isabel and i just just gbonoei— well, isabel and i just justi gbonoei—ii-s glanced at the memo. it's onozing— glanced at the memo. it's onnozing bow— glanced at the memo. it's amazing how many times we sort of accidentally coordinate our looks, isn't it? it's all agreed in oione — looks, isn't it? it's all agreed in advance. of— looks, isn't it? it's all agreed in advance. of course.- c c?” it's all agreed in advance. of course. of course it in advance. of course. of course bl.— in advance. of course. of course iil. so— in advance. of course. of course iil. so-io— in advance. of course. of course iil. so-io we— in advance. of course. of course itl. so-do we think,- it is. so what do we think, ibene— it is. so what do we think, ibene irurnb— it is. so what do we think, then? trump obviously, i don't

ibinb— then? trump obviously, i don't ibinblwoubi— then? trump obviously, i don't think would finish him off. think it would finish him off. no.— think it would finish him off. bo.—noibingl think it would finish him off. no,.to. _nothingl think it would finish him off. no,.to. no,_nothingl think it would finish him off. no,.to. no, i-nothingl think it would finish him off. no,.to. no, i agreeothingl think it would finish him off. . no,.to. no, i agree with you. seems to. no, i agree with you. but my question is , why does it but my question is, why does it not but my question is, why does it noi iinisb— but my question is, why does it not finish him— but my question is, why does it not finish him off? c : 1“ c not finish him off? it shouldn't finish him off on this occasion. this feels outrageous to bring something 23 years later that is extraordinary. well, just beuse— extraordinary. well, just because of— extraordinary. well, just because of the- : ”y well, just because of the time, i mean, a lot because of the time, i mean, a boi oi— because of the time, i mean, a boi oi seuob— because of the time, i mean, a lot of sexual allegations come to lot of sexual allegations come io-rnony— lot of sexual allegations come io-rnony yeors— lot of sexual allegations come to many years after. 1“ to light many years after. this is o— to light many years after. this is a journalist. _ to light many years after. this is a journalist. she's- to light many years after. this is a journalist. she's a she's used to speaking for herself, talking out. i mean, it is very strange . it was a civil jury. so strange. it was a civil jury. so there's criminal conviction. there's no criminal conviction. but he can now be called a sexual predator. but i think this will reinforce his base completely. and this off the book— completely. and this off the book oi— completely. and this off the book oi ibe — ie.i1:i1“ and this off the back of the mar—a—lago files and the back of the mar—a—lago files and ibe business— back of the mar—a—lago files and the business misdemeanour, it busi— the business misdemeanour, it iusi is— the business misdemeanour, it just is building— the business misdemeanour, it just is building a— the business misdemeanour, it just is building a picture that the authorities— just is building a picture that the authorities ,_ just is building a picture that the authorities , the powers that the authorities, the powers that be in— the authorities, the powers that be in washington— the authorities, the powers that be in washington , do not want be in washington, do not want binn— be in washington, do not want bin io— be in washington, do not want bin io ur— be in washington, do not want him to run again— be in washington, do not want him to run again .— be in washington, do not want him to run again . and it will him to run again. and it will play— him to run again. and it will bboy io— him to run again. and it will bboy io bis— him to run again. and it will play to his base.— him to run again. and it will play to his base. it will strengthen— play to his base. it will strengthen on- play to his base. it will strengthen on those woman. play to his base. it will— strengthen on those woman. what nonbi— strengthen on those woman. what woubi ii— strengthen on those woman. what woubi ii io— strengthen on those woman. what woubi ii is ior— strengthen on those woman. what would it do for you— strengthen on those woman. what would it do for you as— strengthen on those woman. what would it do for you as a- strengthen on those woman. what would it do for you as a voter? i mean, he may speak politically. may speak. politically. he may speak. you may like policy. may say, i like that policy. i like policy . but may say, i like that policy. i like policy. but his like that policy. but his personal standards and what he

said previously about women , said previously about women, what does that do to you ? that what does that do to you? that clip of him when he— : 3b:1i yi1:i.7 that clip of him when he talked about grobbing— clip of him when he talked about grobbing one— clip of him when he talked about grabbing women in the proverbial geniiob— grabbing women in the proverbial geniiob oeo.— grabbing women in the proverbial genital area? for— grabbing women in the proverbial genital area? for me at the time , it genital area? for me at the time . ii os— genital area? for me at the time , it was absolutely— genital area? for me at the time , it was absolutely disgusting. am i— , it was absolutely disgusting. am i realistic— , it was absolutely disgusting. am i realistic that men have ibose— am i realistic that men have those conversations behind obosei— those conversations behind closed doors?— those conversations behind closed doors? absolutely. of course , we know— closed doors? absolutely. of course , we know those sorts of course, we know those sorts of conversations go _ course, we know those sorts of conversations go on. not with me . con— conversations go on. not with me . can absolutely— conversations go on. not with me . can absolutely guarantee, of course, but they do. sadly, they do. so realistically,— course, but they do. sadly, they do. so realistically, we- e 3b:1.i sadly, they do. so realistically, we know ibere-s— do. so realistically, we know there's conversation going. at there's conversation going. at ibe iinne— there's conversation going. at ibe iirne i— there's conversation going. at the time i thought it was if he if the time i thought it was if he ii inoi— the time i thought it was if he if that didn't— the time i thought it was if he if that didn't bring him down in iboi— if that didn't bring him down in that election— if that didn't bring him down in that election ,_ if that didn't bring him down in that election , this— if that didn't bring him down in that election , this won't to that election, this won't to beor— that election, this won't to beor ii— that election, this won't to hear it from _ that election, this won't to hear it from his- that election, this won't to hear it from his mouth of how he felt hear it from his mouth of how he iebi oboui— hear it from his mouth of how he felt about-how- hear it from his mouth of how he felt about-how he- hear it from his mouth of how he felt about how he felt felt about women, how he felt oboui— felt about women, how he felt oboui bis— felt about women, how he felt about his power— felt about women, how he felt about his power more critically oni— about his power more critically oni-be— about his power more critically and-he could— about his power more critically and-he could use- about his power more critically and he could use it. then an and how he could use it. then an obbegoiion— allegation 23 years later from sorneboiy— allegation 23 years later from somebody which— allegation 23 years later from somebody which he hasn't been iouni— somebody which he hasn't been iouni guibiy— somebody which he hasn't been iouni guibiy. — somebody which he hasn't been found guilty . he— somebody which he hasn't been found guilty . i1:1 : c found guilty. he says he doesn't even hen found guilty. he says he doesn't even her. he doesn't found guilty. he says he doesn'tl even-her. he doesn't even even know her. he doesn't even know— even know her. he doesn't even know-bor— even know her. he doesn't even know-bor-ior— even know her. he doesn't even know-for-for me,- know her. for me, for me, beoring— know her. for me, for me, hearing-that- know her. for me, for me, hearing that was know her. for me, for me,- hearing-that was more hearing him say that was more snowing.— hearing him say that was more snowing-o— hearing him say that was more shocking,-a way,- hearing him say that was more shocking, a way, it shocking, but in a way, it iiin-i— shocking, but in a way, it didn't surprise- shocking, but in a way, it didn't surprise because we didn't surprise me because we know— didn't surprise me because we. know—bobben know those conversations happen and know those conversations happen oni—o- know those conversations happen oni—o rnorel and the court awarded a more iornoges— and the court awarded a more damages defamation than for damages for defamation than for the damages for defamation than for ibe seuob— damages for defamation than for the sexual assault,— damages for defamation than for the sexual assault, which is extraordinary— the sexual assault, which is extraordinary because he called her extraordinary because he called ber-. — extraordinary because he called ber-. b— extraordinary because he called ber-. b boi— extraordinary because he called

ber-. b boi oi— her a liar. a lot of extraordinary things you to talk about, guys. we're going to talk oboui—ioo.- about, guys. we're going to talki oboui—ioo. wbo about archbishop welby, too, who reobby— about archbishop welby, too, who really - irritates - really intensely irritates me. ani— really intensely irritates me. ang—io- really intensely irritates me. and _to criticise. really intensely irritates me. and _to criticise the and he's going to criticise the siob—in- and he's going to criticise the siob—in inel stop the boats policy in the bouse— stop the boats policy in the bouse oi— stop the boats policy in the house of lords— stop the boats policy in the. house of lords-that house of lords to scratch that bob.— house of lords to scratch that iion.-ierribby- itch. he is a terribly irritating— itch. he is a terribly irritating man. itch. he is a terribly irritating man, icyg a itch. he is a terribly- irritating man.iwe'll take irritating man. we'll take a short break and we'll back short break and we'll be back and talking and we'll be talking about russia's wagner group how russia's wagner group and how they're to blacklist they're poised to be blacklist outed uk .

we'll welcome back at 922. we're going to talk about the wogner— we're going to talk about the wogner eroub— we're going to talk about the wagner group today because ooooriing— wagner group today because ooooriing io— wagner group today because according to the— wagner group today because according to the times, the uk is sei— according to the times, the uk is sei io— according to the times, the uk is set to officially— according to the times, the uk is set to officially label them ine— is set to officially label them ibe bussion— is set to officially label them the russian mercenary group as a brosoribei— the russian mercenary group as a proscribed terrorist— proscribed terrorist organisation. i suppose the big guesiion— organisation. i suppose the big question really— organisation. i suppose the big question really that i put to ciniy— question really that i put to ciniy wu— question really that i put to cindy yu, who's— question really that i put to cindy yu, who's still with us bere— cindy yu, who's still with us bere in— cindy yu, who's still with us bere in ine— cindy yu, who's still with us here in the studio, is why now ? here in the studio, is why now? why— here in the studio, is why now? wby noi?— here in the studio, is why now? wby noie i— here in the studio, is why now? why not? i mean,— here in the studio, is why now? why not? i mean, what's been ibis— why not? i mean, what's been ibis owiub— why not? i mean, what's been this awful mercenary group for a bong— this awful mercenary group for a bong-wes— this awful mercenary group for a long-yes that's— this awful mercenary group for a long-yes that's a- this awful mercenary group for a long yes that's a good long time? yes that's a good guesiion. — long time? yes that's a good question. well,— long time? yes that's a good question. well, i- long time? yes that's a good. question. well, i-we're question. well, i guess we're seeing the ukraine having a offensive very soon in the spfing offensive very soon in the spring and this is a bit of a symbolic move, really to kind of bolster that support and some more cynical actors in westminster have said that actually this comes because the uk doesn't know what else to do. you know, it it is so symbolic in some ways , but i think that in some ways, but i think that would unfair because would be a bit unfair because actually does is that actually what it does do is that it financially it means that financially sanctions mercenary sanctions this mercenary group so through so that they can't go through british institutions british financial institutions and also prevents them from and it also prevents them from being british being able to sue british journalists , which shockingly journalists, which shockingly they done in the past, that they had done in the past, that they had done in the past, that the nerve of them coming to the

uk to sue british journalists in uk to sue british journalists in uk anyway, this uk courts. but anyway, this would prevent them from doing that. the guys that. and these were the guys who time last year who were at the time last year trying to kill zelenskyy, weren't they? do you remember in the weren't they? do you remember in ibe irnrneiioie— ”r1:1 1“ c c“i1:1y7’ do you remember in the immediate aftermath the the immediate aftermath of the bnosion— the immediate aftermath of the invasion,-this- the immediate aftermath of the invasion, this huge invasion, there was this huge beor— invasion, there was this huge fear-were going. invasion, there was this huge fear were going to try fear that they were going to try and—catchl fear that they were going to try. and—catch mm and decapitate him and catch him and decapitate him and catch him and he-s— and decapitate him and catch him and he's actually— and decapitate him and catch him and he's actually living in living— and he's actually living in livinglbunker- and he's actually living in living bunker. and he's actually living in living bunker . �*tz; and he's actually living in- livinglbunker. .wife has living a bunker. his wife has had be separated and living had to be separated and living a separate own. separate bunker of her own. their kids with her. so it's been very terrifying times. and their kids with her. so it's been are terrifying times. and their kids with her. so it's been are very fying times. and their kids with her. so it's been are very unscrupulousrnd these are very unscrupulous people they're people. i mean, they're mercenaries, so they mercenaries, right.7 so they wherever there is conflict , wherever there is conflict, especially in africa, i understand they have some kind of hand in because they're of hand in that because they're paid army basically . the paid for army basically. the head of them, prigozhin is known as putin's chef for his close links to putin, but has also, you know, recently actually criticised putin for not giving the wagner group enough arms. so this link between mercenary and state is actually very, very small, very , very blurred. yes. small, very, very blurred. yes. yeah . cindy yu appreciate ci; yeah . cindy yu appreciate your yeah. cindy yu appreciate your take. — yeah. cindy yu appreciate your take. thank— yeah. cindy yu appreciate your take. thank you— yeah. cindy yu appreciate your take. thank you very much indeed. — take. thank you very much indeed. -the- take. thank you very much indeed. the time coming up indeed. with the time coming up to 9:25,—

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morning. it's 9:30 am. on wednesday. the 10th. this is to the on gb news me, the point on gb news with me, andrew and bev turner. andrew pierce and bev turner. so donald trump has sexually assaulted— so donald trump has sexually assaulted o— so donald trump has sexually assaulted a writer this is the

finding— assaulted a writer this is the finding on— assaulted a writer this is the finding on o— assaulted a writer this is the finding on o jury— assaulted a writer this is the finding of a jury in a civil ne— finding of a jury in a civil case. he says— finding of a jury in a civil case. he says he's never even met— case. he says he's never even me n— case. he says he's never even me n yeon— case. he says he's never even met e jean carroll— case. he says he's never even met e jean carroll and calls it a met e jean carroll and calls it onnen— met e jean carroll and calls it onnen nonn— met e jean carroll and calls it a witch hunt. but— met e jean carroll and calls it a witch hunt. but is his bid to renne— a witch hunt. but is his bid to retake nne— a witch hunt. but is his bid to retake the white— a witch hunt. but is his bid to retake the white house now oooneoe— retake the white house now doomed? and— retake the white house now doomed? and it's the will of the people. — doomed? and it's the will of the people. nne— doomed? and it's the will of the people. the home— doomed? and it's the will of the people. the home secretary tells the house of lords not to block her illegal migration bill. widespread opposition expected, and going be led by the and it's going to be led by the archbishop of canterbury, justin welby. fresh from the coronation the latest harry hacking case. this time the prince is taking action— this time the prince is taking action against— this time the prince is taking action against mirror newspapers . were— action against mirror newspapers were going— action against mirror newspapers .wene going no— action against mirror newspapers .we're going to be— action against mirror newspapers . we're going to be live at .we're going to be live at oonn— .we're going to be live at ooun . — .we're going to be live at ooun . ano— .we're going to be live at court . and labour- .we're going to be live at court . ' ” c. .we're going to be live at- court . and labour under pressure court. and labour under pressure over what we call a coalition of chaos. over what we call a coalition of chaos . a keir starmer is chaos. a keir starmer is refusing to rule out a deal with the lib dems . and involved with the lib dems. and involved with the lib dems. and involved with the conversation this morning . the conversation this morning. vaiews@gbnews.uk is the email oneness,— vaiews@gbnews.uk is the email oneness, eo— vaiews@gbnews.uk is the email oneness, so you— vaiews@gbnews.uk is the email address, so you can— vaiews@gbnews.uk is the email address, so you can tweet us at gb address, so you can tweet us at on newe— address, so you can tweet us at on newe- nun— address, so you can tweet us at gb news. but first— address, so you can tweet us at gb news. but first of all, here is your— gb news. but first of all, here is your newe— gb news. but first of all, here is your news with— gb news. but first of all, here is your news with bethany elsey

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