good morning and welcome to friday morning with esther and phil here on gb news. us president joe biden- c “ni; o" [15 \\ us president joe biden has been visiting— president joe biden has been visiting ireland— president joe biden has been visiting ireland this week. we-u— visiting ireland this week. we-u be— visiting ireland this week. we'll be joined by gb news political— we'll be joined by gb news political editor— we'll be joined by gb news political editor darren mccaffrey— political editor darren mccaffrey for the latest. and in an mccaffrey for the latest. and in en elusive— mccaffrey for the latest. and in an exclusive interview, we'll be lined— an exclusive interview, we'll be ieiuei iv— an exclusive interview, we'll be joined by professor carl ueuugieu— joined by professor carl henaghan and dr. tom jefferson regarding— henaghan and dr. tom jefferson regarding livel— henaghan and dr. tom jefferson regarding their explosive new research, which— regarding their explosive new research, which questions the basis— research, which questions the basis eu— research, which questions the basis on which— research, which questions the basis on which we were all ieveei— basis on which we were all

ieveei is— basis on which we were all forced to wear— basis on which we were all forced to wear face masks. we eeviuiulv— forced to wear face masks. we eevieiulv vvill— forced to wear face masks. we certainly will want to miss livel— certainly will want to miss iiiei. vie-ll— certainly will want to miss that. we'll also- certainly will want to miss that. we'll also be discussing the that. we'll also be discussing iiie iuuiev— that. we'll also be discussing the junior doctors strike action livel— the junior doctors strike action that continues— the junior doctors strike action that continues today. ' i: that continues today. and as leis— that continues today. and as ever this morning, we want to hear from you. so get involved in the show. us at in the show. email us at gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet us at gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet us at gb views news. but before we start , here's the latest start, here's the latest headunes start, here's the latest headlines with aaron . thank you headlines with aaron. thank you , esther. good morning. it's lei— , esther. good morning. it's lei in— , esther. good morning. it's lei in live— , esther. good morning. it's 1:01 in the gbs_ good morning. it's 1:01 in the gbs newsroom from the 1:01 in the gbs newsroom from use level— 1:01 in the gbs newsroom from the royal college— 1:01 in the gbs newsroom from the royal college of nursing is set the royal college of nursing is sei le— the royal college of nursing is set to announce— the royal college of nursing is set to announce the results of a belles— set to announce the results of a lullei eu— set to announce the results of a ballot on whether— set to announce the results of a ballot on whether its members have— ballot on whether its members have assessed— ballot on whether its members have accepted the government's leiesi— have accepted the government's luiesi pav— have accepted the government's luiesi puv eiiev. — have accepted the government's latest pay offer. nurses and silver— latest pay offer. nurses and other health— latest pay offer. nurses and other health workers have been veile— other health workers have been veiiug ever— other health workers have been veiiug e— other health workers have been voting over a 5%_ other health workers have been voting over a 5% pay rise this year— voting over a 5% pay rise this year eul— voting over a 5% pay rise this veer uni e— voting over a 5% pay rise this year and a cash— voting over a 5% pay rise this year and a cash payment for last veer— year and a cash payment for last veer .— year and a cash payment for last veer . lirriseris— year and a cash payment for last year. unison's ballot results is eveeeiei— year. unison's ballot results is eveeeiei ve— year. unison's ballot results is expected over the— year. unison's ballot results is expected over the next few days . sieievv— expected over the next few days . shadow treasury— expected over the next few days . shadow treasury ministerjames . shadow treasury minister james ilurrev— . shadow treasury minister james ilurrev sevs— . shadow treasury minister james ilurrev sevs rise— . shadow treasury minister james murray says the government iresrii— murray says the government iresrr-i eerie— murray says the government hasn't done enough to avoid irriusiriel— hasn't done enough to avoid industrial action. c c

industrial action. it feels like the government hasn't really learnt anything from what's been going on over many months. when you at the junior doctor you look at the junior doctor dispute there and there and dispute in there and there and the government's failure to negotiate them, know, negotiate with them, you know, negotiations are about compromise. when have the compromise. when you have the employee representatives setting compromise. when you have the em|what3 representatives setting compromise. when you have the em|what theirasentatives setting compromise. when you have the em|what their initial:ives setting compromise. when you have the em|what their initial startingting out what their initial starting point is, i think people know they're not likely to get that. there is going to have to be compromise. that's that's the necessity negotiation in is necessity of negotiation in is to sure a compromise to make sure a compromise happens. to make sure a compromise happens . but to make sure a compromise happens. but having that compromise, that is compromise, having that deal is what about what is so critical about avoiding action going avoiding industrial action going ahead. a avoiding industrial action going ahead . a us avoiding industrial action going ahead. a us airman avoiding industrial action going ahead . a us airman suspected of ahead. a us airman suspected of leelirre— ahead. a us airman suspected of leelirrg highly— : a us airman suspected of leaking highly classified documents— leaking highly classified documents will appear at a court in massachusetts— documents will appear at a court in massachusetts later today. 21 veer— in massachusetts later today. 21 veer eli— in massachusetts later today. 21 veer ell reel— in massachusetts later today. 21 year old jack tachira was erresiei— year old jack tachira was erresiei ev— year old jack tachira was arrested by the fbi yesterday eiier— arrested by the fbi yesterday after allegedly— arrested by the fbi yesterday after allegedly sharing highly serrsiiive— after allegedly sharing highly sensitive government information , vvirieir— sensitive government information , vvirieir es— sensitive government information , vvirieir leier— sensitive government information , which was later posted on a seeiel— , which was later posted on a social media— , which was later posted on a social media site.— , which was later posted on a social media site. it's the most serious security— social media site. it's the most serious security breach in the us serious security breach in the us irr— serious security breach in the us is veers— serious security breach in the us is veers .— serious security breach in the us in years . the— serious security breach in the us in years . the us president us in years. the us president will— us in years. the us president will erre— us in years. the us president will erri iris— us in years. the us president will end his trip— us in years. the us president will end his trip to ireland relev—

will end his trip to ireland reeev ev— will end his trip to ireland today by visiting his ancestral irerreievvrr. — today by visiting his ancestral hometown. joe— today by visiting his ancestral hometown. joe biden will travel to hometown. joe biden will travel ie iire — hometown. joe biden will travel ie iire vesi— hometown. joe biden will travel to the west coast— hometown. joe biden will travel to the west coast of ireland , to the west coast of ireland, vvirere— to the west coast of ireland, vvirere ire— to the west coast of ireland, vvirere ire is— to the west coast of ireland, where he is also— to the west coast of ireland, where he is also expected to seek— where he is also expected to seeel ei— where he is also expected to seeel ei e— where he is also expected to speak at a cathedral in county mayo— speak at a cathedral in county ileve .— speak at a cathedral in county ileve . his— speak at a cathedral in county mayo . his ancestor had sold mayo. his ancestor had sold 27,000— mayo. his ancestor had sold 27,000 bricks— mayo. his ancestor had sold 27,000 bricks to— mayo. his ancestor had sold 27,000 bricks to the very same eeiireirel— 27,000 bricks to the very same cathedral, which _ 27,000 bricks to the very same cathedral, which later helped his cathedral, which later helped iris ferrilv— cathedral, which later helped iris ierrrilv ee— cathedral, which later helped his family to sail to america . his family to sail to america. veril— his family to sail to america. neriir leree— his family to sail to america. north korea says— his family to sail to america. north korea says it has tested a selii— north korea says it has tested a new solid fuel— north korea says it has tested a new solid fuel intercontinental eellisiie— new solid fuel intercontinental ballistic missile.— new solid fuel intercontinental ballistic missile. the country sevs— ballistic missile. the country sevs ii— ballistic missile. the country sevs ii ireees— ballistic missile. the country says it hopes the— ballistic missile. the country says it hopes the launch will ererreie— says it hopes the launch will ererreie irre— says it hopes the launch will promote the country's nuclear erreuier— promote the country's nuclear counter attack— promote the country's nuclear counter attack capability. well eerlier— counter attack capability. well eerlier iris— counter attack capability. well earlier this week,— counter attack capability. well earlier this week, it criticised reservi— earlier this week, it criticised reserve us— earlier this week, it criticised recent us and— earlier this week, it criticised recent us and south korean joint miliierv— recent us and south korean joint military exercises— recent us and south korean joint military exercises ._ recent us and south korean joint military exercises . this is the military exercises. this is the rise— military exercises. this is the iirsi rime— military exercises. this is the first time north— military exercises. this is the first time north korea has referred— first time north korea has performed such a test around . 14 performed such a test around. 14 people— performed such a test around. 14 eeeele reeve— performed such a test around. 14 people have been— performed such a test around. 14 people have been rescued from a fire irr— people have been rescued from a fire is e— people have been rescued from a fire is e ieur— people have been rescued from a fire in a four storey— people have been rescued from a fire in a four storey building in south—east— fire in a four storey building in south—east london. eight fire engines— in south—east london. eight fire engines eni— in south—east london. eight fire engines and around 60 firefighters— engines and around 60 firefighters were called to the lee— firefighters were called to the ilei in— firefighters were called to the flat in lewisham _ firefighters were called to the flat in lewisham early this nerning— flat in lewisham early this nerning .— flat in lewisham early this nerning . i2— flat in lewisham early this morning . 12 adults and four

morning. 12 adults and four eniliren— morning. 12 adults and four children were— morning. 12 adults and four children were rescued from neignneuring— children were rescued from neighbouring flats and were ireeiei— neighbouring flats and were ireeiei ei— neighbouring flats and were treated at the— neighbouring flats and were treated at the scene. the fire is ne— treated at the scene. the fire is unier— treated at the scene. the fire is now under control. it's not yet— is now under control. it's not vei lnevvn— is now under control. it's not yet known what— is now under control. it's not yet known what caused the blaze . leneur— yet known what caused the blaze . leneur sevs— yet known what caused the blaze . labour says its— yet known what caused the blaze . labour says its energy eiiieienev— . labour says its energy efficiency plans could save £500 for efficiency plans could save £500 ier nilliens— efficiency plans could save £500 for millions of— efficiency plans could save £500 for millions of households . a for millions of households. a snene— for millions of households. a scheme would— for millions of households. a scheme would fund upgrades to ereeeriies— scheme would fund upgrades to properties below— scheme would fund upgrades to properties below band c. the party— properties below band c. the eenv sevs— properties below band c. the party says energy efficiency reies— party says energy efficiency rates are now— party says energy efficiency rates are now 20 times lower inen— rates are now 20 times lower inen unier— rates are now 20 times lower than under the— rates are now 20 times lower than under the last labour gevernrneni— than under the last labour government. but the government sevs— government. but the government sevs elnesi— government. but the government says almost 50%_ government. but the government says almost 50% of— government. but the government says almost 50% of homes are eurrenilv— says almost 50% of homes are currently having— says almost 50% of homes are currently having energy performance. - currently having energy performance. band c. liberal veneereis— performance. band c. liberal democrats say— performance. band c. liberal democrats say flytipping has been— democrats say flytipping has been effectively— democrats say flytipping has been effectively legalised under conservatives. _ been effectively legalised under conservatives. the— been effectively legalised under conservatives. the party's leiesi— conservatives. the party's latest research - conservatives. the party's latest research shows just 1 in see— latest research shows just 1 in see ees— latest research shows just 1 in 500 cases led— latest research shows just 1 in 500 cases led to— latest research shows just 1 in 500 cases led to a prosecution. they— 500 cases led to a prosecution. inev else— 500 cases led to a prosecution. inev else sev— 500 cases led to a prosecution. they also say more— 500 cases led to a prosecution. they also say more than a nillien— they also say more than a million flytipping incidents were recorded— million flytipping incidents were recorded between 2021 and zen.— were recorded between 2021 and zen. in— were recorded between 2021 and 2022. in england— were recorded between 2021 and 2022. in england ,_ were recorded between 2021 and 2022. in england , but only less

2022. in england, but only less inen— 2022. in england, but only less inen zooo— 2022. in england, but only less than 2000 resulted in legal eeiien— than 2000 resulted in legal eeiien. ine— than 2000 resulted in legal action. the government called the action. the government called ine figure— action. the government called the figure inaccurate, saying it lees— the figure inaccurate, saying it lees nei— the figure inaccurate, saying it does not take— the figure inaccurate, saying it does not take into account elooo— does not take into account 91,000 fixed— does not take into account 91,000 fixed penalty notices issued— 91,000 fixed penalty notices issued during— 91,000 fixed penalty notices issued during that period . the issued during that period. the aa sevs— issued during that period. the aa sevs ii— issued during that period. the aa sevs ii nes— issued during that period. the aa says it has been called to neerlv— aa says it has been called to neerlv zooo— aa says it has been called to nearly 2000 pothole incidents everv— nearly 2000 pothole incidents everv lev— nearly 2000 pothole incidents everv eev lesi— nearly 2000 pothole incidents every day last month. the ireelievvn— every day last month. the breakdown service says it is being— breakdown service says it is being eeusei— breakdown service says it is being caused by— breakdown service says it is being caused by long periods of wet being caused by long periods of vvei vveeiner.— being caused by long periods of wet weather. it— being caused by long periods of wet weather. it says the damage vveuli— wet weather. it says the damage vveuli neve— wet weather. it says the damage would have left— wet weather. it says the damage would have left drivers with a eelleeiive— would have left drivers with a eelleeiive .— would have left drivers with a collective . bill— would have left drivers with a collective . bill of— would have left drivers with a collective . bill of over collective. bill of over eieoeoo— collective. bill of over £160,000 for- collective. bill of over £160,000 for just new tyres elene— £160,000 for just new tyres elene .— £160,000 for just new tyres elene . ine— £160,000 for just new tyres alone . the king— £160,000 for just new tyres alone . the king will visit alone. the king will visit sandhurst_ alone. the king will visit sandhurst royal military academy relev— sandhurst royal military academy ieiev rer— sandhurst royal military academy ieiev ier ine— sandhurst royal military academy today for the 200th sovereign's iereie. — today for the 200th sovereign's parade. charles— today for the 200th sovereign's parade. charles will inspect the efiieer— parade. charles will inspect the officer cadets— parade. charles will inspect the officer cadets who _ parade. charles will inspect the officer cadets who have eennleiei— officer cadets who have completed their commissioning luring— completed their commissioning luring ine— completed their commissioning during the ceremony, which is neig— during the ceremony, which is neli inree— during the ceremony, which is held three times— during the ceremony, which is held three times a year. the svveri— held three times a year. the vaeri er— held three times a year. the sword of honour.— held three times a year. the sword of honour. the overseas vaeri— sword of honour. the overseas vaeri eni— sword of honour. the overseas sword and the— sword of honour. the overseas sword and the king's medal will be sword and the king's medal will ire evveriei— sword and the king's medal will be awarded to— sword and the king's medal will be awarded to the— sword and the king's medal will be awarded to the top officer. ceieis—

be awarded to the top officer. ceieis ei— be awarded to the top officer. cadets at the— be awarded to the top officer. cadets at the european space agenev— cadets at the european space agenev une— cadets at the european space agency who will— cadets at the european space agency who will make a second leunen— agency who will make a second launch attempt— agency who will make a second launch attempt this afternoon ener— launch attempt this afternoon eiier iis— launch attempt this afternoon after its mission— launch attempt this afternoon after its mission to jupiter was nesieenei— after its mission to jupiter was pesinenee eue— after its mission to jupiter was postponed due to— after its mission to jupiter was postponed due to bad weather . postponed due to bad weather. ine— postponed due to bad weather. the spacecraft— postponed due to bad weather. the spacecraft was meant to nlesi— the spacecraft was meant to elesi en— the spacecraft was meant to blast off and— the spacecraft was meant to blast off and thirsty to see if vueiier-s— blast off and thirsty to see if jupiter's moons— blast off and thirsty to see if jupiter's moons support life , jupiter's moons support life, nui— jupiter's moons support life, eui ii— jupiter's moons support life, eui i will— jupiter's moons support life, but it will now— jupiter's moons support life, but it will now launch at 1:14 inis— but it will now launch at 1:14 this afternoon— but it will now launch at 1:14 this afternoon ._ but it will now launch at 1:14 this afternoon . it— but it will now launch at 1:14 this afternoon . it is the isthe this afternoon. it is the isthe first— this afternoon. it is the isthe iirsi eiienni— this afternoon. it is the isthe first attempt to _ this afternoon. it is the isthe first attempt to send a probe to ernii— first attempt to send a probe to orbit another— first attempt to send a probe to orbit another planet's moon . orbit another planet's moon. inis— orbit another planet's moon. inis is— orbit another planet's moon. inis is en— orbit another planet's moon. this is gb news— orbit another planet's moon. this is gb news we'll bring you es ii— this is gb news we'll bring you more as it happens. now though it's more as it happens. now though is leek— more as it happens. now though its leel le— more as it happens. now though it's back to esther— more as it happens. now though it's back to esther and philip . it's back to esther and philip. linenl— it's back to esther and philip. linenl veu— it's back to esther and philip. l inenl veu verv— it's back to esther and philip. . thank you very much- it's back to esther and philip.- - thank you very much indeed, it's back to esther and philip.- - thank welcome much indeed, it's back to esther and philip.- - thank welcome much to deed, it's back to esther and philip. thank welcome much to friday rory. now welcome back to friday morning esther phil. morning with esther and phil. professor of evidence—based medicine at oxford university, carl hannigan, and dr. tom jefferson of the cochrane collaboration have carried out research into the basis on which

we were all forced to wear face masks during the pandemic. and they've published their- they've published their research this they've published their research lnis nerning.— they've published their research this morning. we're delighted to say this morning. we're delighted to sev lnev— this morning. we're delighted to sev rnev vein— this morning. we're delighted to sev rnev vein us— this morning. we're delighted to say they join us for an exclusive _ say they join us for an exclusive interview for gb views news. — exclusive interview for gb views news. eerl— exclusive interview for gb views news. carl, tom,— exclusive interview for gb views news. carl, tom, welcome to you len— news. carl, tom, welcome to you leln. ien — news. carl, tom, welcome to you both. tom perhaps— news. carl, tom, welcome to you both. tom perhaps we can start uln— both. tom perhaps we can start vviln veu— both. tom perhaps we can start vviln veu el— both. tom perhaps we can start with you of rac._ both. tom perhaps we can start with you of rac. during the eenlenie— with you of rac. during the eenlenie vve— with you of rac. during the pandemic, we were told, first of gl— pandemic, we were told, first of ell lnel— pandemic, we were told, first of ell lnel leee— pandemic, we were told, first of all, that face masks were a vvesle — all, that face masks were a vvesle el— all, that face masks were a waste of time.— all, that face masks were a waste of time. then they became so waste of time. then they became se innenenl— waste of time. then they became so important that— waste of time. then they became so important that we were legellv— so important that we were legally forced— so important that we were legally forced to wear them. so vvnel-s— legally forced to wear them. so vvnel-s veur— legally forced to wear them. so what's your research found .7 what's your research found? vvell— what's your research found? vvell vve— what's your research found? well, we looked— what's your research found? well, we looked at the uk hsa review. that's— well, we looked at the uk hsa review. that's the— well, we looked at the uk hsa review. that's the predecessor of public health england , which of public health england, which the government provided as a bafisin the government provided as a basis in a parliamentary question on as the basis for mask mandates . the review mask mandates. the review contained 25 studies to trials and 23 so—called observational studies , which is a lower level studies, which is a lower level of evidence acas and the main

points are summarised and the details on our website. trust the evidence . so that's what we the evidence. so that's what we did. and we provide some main points and we provide details on all the studies included in this review. what we found was that the quality of the evidence was abysmal . and in fact, 12 of the abysmal. and in fact, 12 of the studies should not really have been included in the review because they don't compare masks with anything. the non—comparative they have a non—comparative design, so they can't really inform any policy that that's the bottom line. philip and carl, if i can bring you in here, i mean, it, it wasn't just the uk hsa who changed their view on on masks, was it during the world health organisation and this happened in other countries. so i mean,

is this something— in other countries. so i mean, is this something that- " so i mean, is this something that where the international— is this something that where the international community has some elene— international community has some llene er— international community has some llene er is— international community has some blame or is this— international community has some blame or is this something sneeilie— blame or is this something seeeifie le— blame or is this something specific to the— blame or is this something specific to the uk health seeurilv— specific to the uk health security agency? vivi“ silt; specific to the uk health- security agency? well, there has been this flip flop, if you like, in people's opinions , like, in people's opinions, which occurred in about the first two months of the pandemic from about march to may. many advisors flipped what they were saying . but think it's important saying. but think it's important what what the evidence is about and what you nsa's job is to inform you as politicians. so that you can make informed decisions . that you can make informed decisions. but that you can make informed decisions . but when we look at decisions. but when we look at this evidence, it's so poor quality, as tom said. i'll just give you three egregious examples . one is it included examples. one is it included a predator journal. that's a journal that has no peer review in place. so it should never have been in there in the first place. it had populations that didn't even represent the people like in brazil. but third is, it had this phenomenon called cherry picking from the data. now, this is just like gcse o—level questions. if i gave you a data set and said six of them

showed mass work and six showed they didn't, which one would you pick? is it okay to just pick one two week period and present that information to the public and to politicians? well, that's what the ons did and that's what the uk did. and it's completely unacceptable to do that because when you're doing you're missing forming the debate. and what we should do next. and then the second important issue is we've seen again this week the uk has done another review about ffp math and n95 kyiv those ones that you see, which have a much closer fitting on your face and said there is no evidence whatsoever to inform their use in the community and that for general population and young people is not an issue. but if you're at high risk, you really want an answer to this question and you want to know is does it make a difference if i step out of the house and there's been a complete lack of will to produce any evidence in this area? so some of thought that the

some of us thought that the evidence had changed, and that's why we were being told something else. so are you saying that lnis— else. so are you saying that lnis sell— else. so are you saying that this self selection,- so are you saying that this self selection, this cherry eieling— this self selection, this cherry eieling ,— this self selection, this cherry eieling , vveull— this self selection, this cherry picking , would you call it then picking, would you call it then reneering— picking, would you call it then leneering el— picking, would you call it then tampering of information or the evileneee— tampering of information or the evidence? how— tampering of information or the evidence? how would you how vveull— evidence? how would you how vveull veu— evidence? how would you how would you phrase— evidence? how would you how would you phrase it? i think i lninl— would you phrase it? i think i think tampering— would you phrase it? i think i think tampering is a little bit we neve— think tampering is a little bit we have no evidence of that. senelning— we have no evidence of that. something happened- we have no evidence of that. something happened during march, april . 2020 to cause the this april. 2020 to cause the this what i call the somersault people completely changing its position. but the cochrane review on physical interventions actions that's just not masks , actions that's just not masks, but also things like handwashing , distancing and so on. all non—pharmaceutical interventions has been running since two thousand and seven and the conclusion of the 2020 review are exactly the same as the conclusions of the 2023 review. this fifth update. so there's nothing new in all this. what we

knew one of the new characterists of the situation we're in is governments refusal to fund any trials or any help or facilitate answering studies , relevant studies, good quality studies, well—designed studies. to answer these these very important public health questions, these are the use , questions, these are the use, the use of these interventions has been general, has been global. so there's nothing more important than this call. i think , of anything i just think, of anything i just wondered , i was struck by your wondered, i was struck by your point about the cherry picking of two a fortnight data out of a six month study . i mean, is six month study. i mean, is there a six month study. i mean, is lnere e is— six month study. i mean, is there a is there— six month study. i mean, is there a is there a- 5x slur: i mean, is there a is there a suggestion eernens— there a is there a suggestion nernees nere— there a is there a suggestion perhaps here that in effect the uk perhaps here that in effect the ill isl— perhaps here that in effect the ill use ere— perhaps here that in effect the uk hsa were coming under eeliiieel— uk hsa were coming under political pressure from the government— political pressure from the government to _ political pressure from the government to find reasons why ieee— government to find reasons why ieee nesls— government to find reasons why face masks should— government to find reasons why face masks should be worn and inei— face masks should be worn and inei in— face masks should be worn and that in effect— face masks should be worn and that in effect it— face masks should be worn and that in effect it was it wasn't ine— that in effect it was it wasn't

ine iii— that in effect it was it wasn't ine iii isl— that in effect it was it wasn't the uk hsa who— that in effect it was it wasn't the uk hsa who were informing gevernneni— the uk hsa who were informing government decision. it was the gevernneni— government decision. it was the government perhaps trying to get the government perhaps trying to get ine ll— government perhaps trying to get ine iii hsa— government perhaps trying to get ine iii use ie— government perhaps trying to get the uk hsa to try— government perhaps trying to get the uk hsa to try and help surgeri— the uk hsa to try and help sueeeri iis— the uk hsa to try and help support its decision . support its decision. i think inis— support its decision. i think inis is— support its decision. i think this is going to be an important issue for the inquiry to look at. this is not the first time we've considered what is we call retrofitting the evidence to the policy you've made the policy . policy you've made the policy. so then you look back in time and say, what evidence can we draw to us? it happened with the masks in schools review, very similar we ended up similar position and we ended up saying, well, look, if this is what you presenting to the minister, there's a key problem here being here because he's not being informed. guiding that informed. now who's guiding that is important question . i is an important question. i don't know the answer to that , don't know the answer to that, but it's clear early on but it's very clear early on there was a lot of poor quality evidence developed that then subsequently has gone into these reviews and has been used to retrofit, as i said , to a policy retrofit, as i said, to a policy to make it look as though the evidence was in place all along . erg carl hannigan , tom . erg carl hannigan, tom jefferson, thank you so much. indeed for joining jefferson, thank you so much. indeed forjoining us jefferson, thank you so much. indeed for joining us this

nerning— indeed for joining us this morning and— indeed for joining us this morning and sharing this evelesive— morning and sharing this explosive research with us. we eeereeieie— explosive research with us. we enereeieie veur— explosive research with us. we appreciate your time . um, it is appreciate your time. um, it is guiie— appreciate your time. um, it is quite unbelievable , isn't it, quite unbelievable, isn't it, reellve— quite unbelievable, isn't it, really? well,— quite unbelievable, isn't it, really? well, i— quite unbelievable, isn't it, really? well, i think the cherry eieling— really? well, i think the cherry pickingr inei-s— really? well, i think the cherry picking, that's why i was trying to picking, that's why i was trying ie gei— picking, that's why i was trying ie gei ie— picking, that's why i was trying ie gei ie ine— picking, that's why i was trying to get to the bottom. g to get to the bottom. was it tampering?— to get to the bottom. was it tampering? no, it was cherry picking. but should you only take two weeks out of a six month or a longer period, you are distorting what it was. and as said , are were they as you said, are were they saying they wanted you to wear masks any cost? therefore masks at any cost? therefore they finding the evidence they were finding the evidence to meet and i thought , to meet that. and i thought, what were the masks about? were they about was it like they about fear? was it like a constant visible reminder that covid did it need to covid was around? did it need to protect you? of these protect you? but all of these all these questions need to all of these questions need to be did. we should be answered. they did. we should we make be answered. they did. we should vv-eele eleer— be answered. they did. we should we-make clear that- be answered. they did. we should we-make clear that we- be answered. they did. we should we-make clear that we did| we should make clear that we did eeiuellv— we should make clear that we did eeiuellv esl— we should make clear that we did actually ask the— we should make clear that we did actually ask the hsa they actually ask the uk, hsa if they vveniel— actually ask the uk, hsa if they vvenielleene— actually ask the uk, hsa if they wanted-come on— actually ask the uk, hsa if they wanted come on show to wanted to come on the show to iusiiiv— wanted to come on the show to iusiiiv ineir— wanted to come on the show to justify their policy— wanted to come on the show to justify their policy on face nesls— justify their policy on face nesls enl— justify their policy on face masks and to— justify their policy on face masks and to respond to carl lenegnen— masks and to respond to carl nenegnen enl— masks and to respond to carl henaghan and tom jefferson's repen— henaghan and tom jefferson's reeeri. vve— henaghan and tom jefferson's report. we haven't yet had a leiiniiive— report. we haven't yet had a definitive response from them, but definitive response from them, lui ei— definitive response from them, lui ei eeurse— definitive response from them, but of course we— definitive response from them, but of course we will if they do issue— but of course we will if they do issue a statement— but of course we will if they do issue a statement or they do vveni— issue a statement or they do vveni ie— issue a statement or they do want to come— issue a statement or they do want to come on—

issue a statement or they do want to come on the show, we'll be well— want to come on the show, we'll be well le— want to come on the show, we'll be well be verv— want to come on the show, we'll be we'll be very happy to share inei— be we'll be very happy to share inei vviin— be we'll be very happy to share inei vviin veu— be we'll be very happy to share that with you so— be we'll be very happy to share that with you so that you can neer— that with you so that you can neer ineir— that with you so that you can hear their point— that with you so that you can hear their point of view as well— hear their point of view as vvell lui— hear their point of view as vvell lui i— hear their point of view as well. but i think that was eerieinlv— well. but i think that was certainly interesting and eye eenere— certainly interesting and eye eeene en eve— certainly interesting and eye opener, an eye opener on on some of opener, an eye opener on on some ei—eneel— opener, an eye opener on on some ei—eneel ei- of that evidence ahead of iresileni— of that evidence ahead ofi president—day of that evidence ahead of- president_day in president biden's final day in irelenl. — president biden's final day in irelenl. le— president biden's final day in ireland. he has— president biden's final day in ireland. it; president biden's final day in ireland. " " ireland. he has spoken of his pride in his irish roots and support for the peace process in northern ireland. speaking to the northern ireland. speaking to ine reini— northern ireland. speaking to the joint irish— \r ”lift: speaking to the joint irish parliament, lilen— the joint irish parliament, lilen else— the joint irish parliament, biden also added the uk biden also added that the uk gevernneni— biden also added that the uk government-be- biden also added that the uk government be working government should be working eleselv— government should be working closely—ensurel closely with ireland to ensure geel— closely with ireland to ensure geel-in— closely with ireland to ensure good-in northern. good relations in northern irelenl— good relations in northern ireland-joined- good relations in northern ireland. joined by gb news ireland. now joined by gb news eeliiieel— ireland. now joined by gb news political editor— ireland. now joined by gb news political editor darren ileleiirev— political editor darren mccaffrey, darren, thanks for reining— mccaffrey, darren, thanks for ieining — mccaffrey, darren, thanks for joining us. how's this been a sueeessiul— joining us. how's this been a successful visit— joining us. how's this been a successful visit for joe biden . successful visit for joe biden. i successful visit for joe biden. i ininl— successful visit for joe biden. i ininl en— successful visit for joe biden. i think on the— successful visit for joe biden. i think on the whole it has been elvieuslv— i think on the whole it has been elvieuslv ii— i think on the whole it has been obviously it depends what eerseeeiive— obviously it depends what perspective you're looking at. it perspective you're looking at. ii irenn — perspective you're looking at. ii irenn ii— perspective you're looking at. it from. if you're— perspective you're looking at. it from. if you're looking- perspective you're looking at. it from. if you're looking from joe biden's perspective, i think there's little doubt that he's had a thoroughly good time here this has been somewhat of a homecoming for the us president. he is the most irish of us presidents, certainly since jfk and he has seemingly thoroughly

enjoyed himself. i mean, you only have to look at the images that have emerged over the last 48 hours or so, and you can tell he's having a good time. 48 hours or so, and you can tell he's having a good time . there's he's having a good time. there's little doubt about that. and that will continue as you say, later on today when he leaves dubun later on today when he leaves dublin to travel to the west of ireland, where he's going to go initially to a catholic shrine at is not only an at knock. he is not only an irish us president, but also a catholic as well. and then he's going to have his big kind of set piece moment tonight in a place called bologna in county mayo , where, again, he can trace mayo, where, again, he can trace back his ancestral roots. he's going to address tens of thousands of irish people who are likely to turn out to listen to the us president . and i think to the us president. and i think that will be the pinnacle of what i say has been a pretty successful trip, at least from the house's point of the white house's point of view . clearly lots of unionists . now clearly lots of unionists in haven't felt in northern ireland haven't felt quite as enamoured by the trip. we heard from arlene foster gb news, presenter, former first minister of northern ireland a little earlier on the week,

little earlier on in the week, suggesting that biden hates little earlier on in the week, sug ukting that biden hates little earlier on in the week, sug uk nigeliat biden hates little earlier on in the week, sug uk nigel farage3iden hates little earlier on in the week, sug uk nigel farage kind hates little earlier on in the week, sug uk nigel farage kind ofates little earlier on in the week, sug uk nigel farage kind of took the uk nigel farage kind of took up this battle last night with suggestions around the flag and the lack of the union flag on the lack of the union flag on the beast as he was in belfast earlier on this week. and he obviously had that gaffe around the black and tans as well. so as i say, it's not necessarily a universally held view and i think there might have been a little bit of angst in downing street last night about those comments at the irish parliament at the oireachtas yesterday in which biden kind of which president biden kind of wanted the uk to do more to work with dublin to try and see stormont restored. now in many regards i think that is going to happen anyway. i think the prime minister and irish premier, minister and the irish premier, leo have made it clear leo varadkar, have made it clear that going to try and that they are going to try and up efforts to try and get up their efforts to try and get the back into government. so the dup back into government. so all in all, the images from here going back to united states going back to the united states will have done joe biden any will not have done joe biden any harm. there 30 to 40 million harm. there are 30 to 40 million irish americans. he's probably going run next going to run in the next election. so those images, as i say, go down well with that

say, will go down well with that community. but it's not necessarily a widely held view or a universally held view that everyone thinks this has gone swimmingly from the swimmingly well. but from the white point of view, i white house's point of view, i think think has. ithink think they think it has. i think that's what i was going- g i think that's what i was going to ask. vves— that's what i was going to ask. vves-eleving— that's what i was going to ask. was-playing up— that's what i was going to ask. was-playing up to- that's what i was going to ask. was playing up to a home or was he playing up to a home or eulieneee— was he playing up to a home or audience? was— was he playing up to a home or audience? was he— was he playing up to a home or audience? was he in enjoying ielling— audience? was he in enjoying talking about— audience? was he in enjoying talking about his roots ? is that talking about his roots? is that vvne— talking about his roots? is that vvne ne— talking about his roots? is that vvne ne es— talking about his roots? is that who he was appealing to ? who he was appealing to? because, as i— who he was appealing to? because, as i said, some people in inglenl— because, as i said, some people in inglenl enl— because, as i said, some people in england and the— because, as i said, some people in england and the rest of the uk in england and the rest of the ill nigni— in england and the rest of the uk might have— in england and the rest of the uk might have felt snubbed by the uk might have felt snubbed by ine vvev— uk might have felt snubbed by ine vvev ne— uk might have felt snubbed by ine vvev ne es— uk might have felt snubbed by the way he was building up on his the way he was building upon nis eeis— the way he was building upon his roots, his— the way he was building upon his roots, his irish— the way he was building up on his roots, his irish roots . yes. his roots, his irish roots. yes. veen— his roots, his irish roots. yes. veen ii-s— his roots, his irish roots. yes. yeah it's really— his roots, his irish roots. yes. yeah it's really interesting inis— yeah it's really interesting inis enl— yeah it's really interesting this and i've— yeah it's really interesting this and i've been looking at linl— this and i've been looking at linl ei— this and i've been looking at kind of commentary from both siles— kind of commentary from both siles . — kind of commentary from both siles . veu— kind of commentary from both sides . you know,— kind of commentary from both sides . /r:::r. g kind of commentary from both sides. 43. sides. you know, how it's been reported here in ireland and how it's been reported here in or has been reported you guys has been reported where you guys are in the uk at the moment? i think there's a sense among some people that by joe biden asserting of irish asserting his kind of irish roots, that's at the expense of the special relationship, as if there are kind of, you know, you can have both at the same time. and the point. i think and that's the point. i think both street the

both downing street and the white to make is white house will try to make is that biden obviously that joe biden obviously has irish heritage. very irish heritage. he's very proudly there's little proudly irish. there's little doubt that . and as i say, doubt about that. and as i say, he's really thoroughly enjoyed his days here. it almost his his days here. it almost felt like he's been on a holiday rather than on an official visit . but does mean that in . but does that mean that in some ways it makes him more anti—british it at the anti—british or it comes at the expense of that special relationship? as i say , the relationship? as i say, the white house would say that's simply . downing street simply untrue. downing street have dismissed claims. have dismissed those claims. they the fact that they will point to the fact that the and the uk are close the us and the uk are close partners in nato, in the g7, in the security and so the un security council and so on.and the un security council and so on. and so again, not on. and so again, i'm not entirely sure. i think you'd have to speak to the people who do feel that joe biden is anti—british to kind of make that summation, that if you do assert irishness does that assert his irishness does that mean he dislikes britain? mean that he dislikes britain? they would obviously suggest it doesn't. some people feel quite strongly it does, whereas here in ireland, i think they're kind of slightly exasperated and kind of slightly exasperated and kind of looking that coverage of looking at that coverage saying, well, this is a man like millions otheramericans millions of other americans who are by heritage

are fascinated by their heritage about where came from. and about where they came from. and for very much rooted for him, it's very much rooted in he's been here in ireland. he's been here a long time, but he certainly had a of a reprimand to rishi a bit of a reprimand to rishi when he's saying that really they should be doing more, getting , you know, ireland, getting, you know, ireland, northern ireland, bringing sort of them all together more. did he not do a bit of a reprimand inere— he not do a bit of a reprimand inere ie— he not do a bit of a reprimand inere ie ine— he not do a bit of a reprimand there to the prime— he not do a bit of a reprimand there to the prime minister i ininl— there to the prime minister i think potentially— there to the prime minister i think potentially you - there to the prime minister i think potentially you could judge it that way . and i know judge it that way. and i know some people have . i would say some people have. i would say actually there given the fact that obviously relations between the uk and the eu and more specifically between london and dubun specifically between london and dublin have been pretty strained in recent years because of, you know, due to brexit and know, partly due to brexit and that there has been mistrust and there's been an attempt, i think, on both sides really since rishi sunak took over as prime minister, try and build bndges prime minister, try and build bridges clearly with brussels. and that with the windsor and we saw that with the windsor framework, but with dublin too, and i would say and also dublin, i would say reciprocal meeting. was reciprocal meeting. it was really interesting leo really interesting when leo varadkar of last year varadkar at the end of last year talked about essentially

talked about how essentially the current withdrawal protocol, the one that boris johnson had signed to, that that was too signed up to, that that was too harsh, that essentially mistakes have made that maybe the have been made that maybe the irish government hadn't understood of understood the concerns of unionists so essentially unionists enough. so essentially the irish government trying to reach out to unions in the north and to british government and to the british government and to the british government and maybe i think there been and maybe i think there has been and maybe i think there has been a recognition downing street a recognition in downing street that do want get that if they do want to get stormont restored, that means cooperating dublin. so cooperating more with dublin. so it know , diplomacy it was, you know, diplomacy matters, doesn't it, esther ? and matters, doesn't it, esther? and yes, him saying that in doing that ever so well at the moment as well. darren mccaffrey well, veen — as well. darren mccaffrey well, veen i— as well. darren mccaffrey well, veen l iusi— as well. darren mccaffrey well, veen liusi veen— as well. darren mccaffrey well, yeah, i just yeah, i'm- darren mccaffrey well, yeah, i just yeah, i'm just irving— yeah, i just yeah, i'm just irving ie— yeah, i just yeah, i'm just trying to surmise that i think in ine— trying to surmise that i think in ine enl— trying to surmise that i think in ine enl is— trying to surmise that i think in the end is actually what we will— in the end is actually what we will see— in the end is actually what we will see irrespective of what ine— will see irrespective of what ine us— will see irrespective of what the us president has to say. i ininl— the us president has to say. i ininl lnel— the us president has to say. i think that both— the us president has to say. i think that both london- the us president has to say. i think that both london and dubun think that both london and dublin will be cooperating more to get stormont back and to get stormont back up and running again. that running again. whether that works or not, and whether the dup will move. well, that's a whole question altogether. whole other question altogether. darren you so darren mccaffrey thank you so much us and bringing much forjoining us and bringing us latest joe biden's us the latest on joe biden's visit. and be speaking, visit. and we will be speaking,

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' r: all“ g g sandhurst. and don't forget to get touch with us. email us get in touch with us. email us gb gbnews.uk. stay with gb views at gbnews.uk. stay with us. good morning and welcome to our latest update brought to you by the met office. i'm mark wilson. by the met office. i'm mark vvilsen. se— by the met office. i'm mark wilson. so we're— iii; [willi i'm mark wilson. so we're through friday, inen— wilson. so we're through friday, inen-eneiner— wilson. so we're through friday, then-another day- wilson. so we're through friday, then another day of then it's another day of sunsnine— then it's another day of sunshine showers then it's another day of sunshine - showers the sunshine and showers with the risl— sunshine and showers with the risllsene— sunshine and showers with the risllsene rnere— sunshine and showers with the risk some more persistent risk of some more persistent rein— risk of some more persistent rein-peris- risk of some more persistent rein-pens ei- risk of some more persistent rain -parts of the l risk of some more persistent rain throughparts of the risk of some more persistent rain through the; of the risk of some more persistent rain through the afternoon. but south through the afternoon. but vvinls— south through the afternoon. but vvinls vill— south through the afternoon. but winds will-that— south through the afternoon. but winds will-that bit- south through the afternoon. but winds will that bit lighter winds will stay that bit lighter inen—leiel winds will stay that bit lighter. inen—leie. vve than they have been of late. we leel— than they have been of late. we leel-eressure— than they have been of late. we look pressure pattern. look at the pressure pattern. inen— look at the pressure pattern. inen veu— look at the pressure pattern. inen veu een— look at the pressure pattern. then you can see the reason why len— then you can see the reason why levv eessure— then you can see the reason why low pressure centre— then you can see the reason why low pressure centre right across the low pressure centre right across ine-vve— low pressure centre right across ine-vve leel— low pressure centre right across. the-we head-friday the uk as we head through friday and the uk as we head through friday enl-ine— the uk as we head through friday and-the weather- the uk as we head through friday and the weather front and this is the weather front nere— and this is the weather front nere inei— and this is the weather front here that could— and this is the weather front here that could bring some neevien— here that could bring some heavier, persistent heavier, more persistent rain, at heavier, more persistent rain, ei-ier— heavier, more persistent rain, ei-ier e— heavier, more persistent rain, ei-ier e ine- heavier, more persistent rain, at-for a time. so- heavier, more persistent rain, at for a time. so we pick at least for a time. so we pick up at least for a time. so we pick ue—inen- at least for a time. so we pick up_then affectingi up on that rain then affecting peris— up on that rain then affecting eerisline— up on that rain then affecting parts the south—west as we parts of the south—west as we neel— parts of the south—west as we neel inreugn— parts of the south—west as we head through friday morning, slevvlv— head through friday morning, slevvlv-eusning- head through friday morning, slowly pushing its way slowly then pushing its way eesivverls— slowly then pushing its way. eastwards—through eastwards as we head through the day eastwards as we head through the lev-einer— eastwards as we head through the day-other southern- day to affect other southern eeuniies— day to affect other southern counties-time- day to affect other southern counties time we get

counties by the time we get inreugn— counties by the time we get through afternoon with through to the afternoon with —eii some stronger winds here, at leesi— some stronger winds here, at leesi-iine.— some stronger winds here, at least-time. but- some stronger winds here, at least time. but elsewhere, least for a time. but elsewhere, ineugn— least for a time. but elsewhere, ineugn-inere— least for a time. but elsewhere, though,-there will- least for a time. but elsewhere, though, there will be some though, yes, there will be some lrigni— though, yes, there will be some lrigni-seells. - though, yes, there will be some bright-spells. but- bright or sunny spells. but egein— bright or sunny spells. but egein-le- bright or sunny spells. but again,-be long- bright or sunny spells. but again, be long before again, it won't be long before inese— again, it won't be long before those-showers- again, it won't be long before- those-showers-develop those heavy showers will develop just those heavy showers will develop iusi eleui— those heavy showers will develop just about anywhere could see a nseer— just about anywhere could see a nseer enl— just about anywhere could see a shower and-could- just about anywhere could see a shower and could heavy shower and they could be heavy vviin — shower and they could be heavy vviin—enl- with the risk of hail and inunlen— with the risk of hail and| thunder,-turning thunder, although turning a senevvnei— thunder, although turning a somewhat-bit- thunder, although turning a somewhat bit drier and somewhat little bit drier and lrignier— somewhat little bit drier and lrignier-ine- somewhat little bit drier and brighter the west as brighter across the far west as we neel— brighter across the far west as we neel inie— brighter across the far west as we head into the— brighter across the far west as we head into the afternoon. agein— we head into the afternoon. again, temperatures disappointing of disappointing for the time of the disappointing for the time of ine-iz— disappointing for the time of the-12 degrees- disappointing for the time of the 12 degrees is the year. 9 to 12 degrees is veur— the year. 9 to 12 degrees is your afternoon— the year. 9 to 12 degrees is- your afternoon -through your afternoon high now through the your afternoon high now through ine-rrilev— your afternoon high now through the-friday into- your afternoon high now through the-friday into the- the rest of friday into the evening— the rest of friday into the evening overnight, evening and overnight, those nseers— evening and overnight, those snevvers-ine- evening and overnight, those showers the southeast evening and overnight, those shov merge the southeast evening and overnight, those shov merge into the southeast evening and overnight, those shov merge into a he southeast evening and overnight, those shov merge into a spellutheast evening and overnight, those shov merge into a spell ofreast will merge into a spell of lengen— will merge into a spell of longer, more— will merge into a spell of longer, more persistent rain. so guiie— longer, more persistent rain. so guiielvvei— longer, more persistent rain. so quitelwet picture— longer, more persistent rain. so quite wet picture through the quite a wet picture through the irilev— quite a wet picture through thei irilev—eeress friday evening rush hour across peris— friday evening rush hour across parts-south—east,- parts of the south—east, elsewhere, _ parts of the south—east, elsewhere, though, turn elsewhere, though, it will turn lrier—ei— elsewhere, though, it will turn drier—of those - elsewhere, though, it will turn. drier—of those showers drier with many of those showers ieling— drier with many of those showers ieling evvev— drier with many of those showers fading away overnight. 1 or 2 misi— fading away overnight. 1 or 2 nisi enl— fading away overnight. 1 or 2 nisi enl leg— fading away overnight. 1 or 2 mist and fog patches developing egein— mist and fog patches developing once again-under- mist and fog patches developing once again. under those once again. and under those eleer—ieirlvl clear skies, another fairly enillv— clear skies, another fairly chilly-come.- chilly night to come. temperatures in rural spots in eeriieuler— temperatures in rural spots in particular—close. particular falling fairly close to particular falling fairly close ie—iresi- particular falling fairly close to _frost for. particular falling fairly close. to _frost for some to freezing. so a frost for some of to freezing. so a frost for some ei us— to freezing. so a frost for some ei lui— to freezing. so a frost for some of us, but under— to freezing. so a frost for some of us, but under those clear slies— of us, but under those clear slies vve— of us, but under those clear skies, we off— of us, but under those clear skies, we off to— of us, but under those clear skies, we off to a- of us, but under those clear skies, we off to a fine start on seiurlev— skies, we off to a fine start on saturday morning.— skies, we off to a fine start on saturday morning. really saturday morning. a really good sieri— saturday morning. a really good start -weekend. -of. start to the weekend. lots of sunsnine— start to the weekend. lots of sunshine first— start to the weekend. lots of sunshine first still sunshine first thing, still a bit sunshine first thing, still a lii-eleul— sunshine first thing, still a bit cloud, though, across bit more cloud, though, across inei— bit more cloud, though, across that southeastern— bit more cloud, though, across that southeastern corner, eeriieulerlv— that southeastern corner, particularly east midlands, east angie,— particularly east midlands, easti anglia—enl particularly east midlands, easti lngieeull—anl particularly east midlands, easti anglcould-1-and particularly east midlands, easti anglcould-1 or-and particularly east midlands, east anglcould 1 or 2 and that could lead to 1 or 2 nseers— that could lead to 1 or 2 nseers by— that could lead to 1 or 2 showers by the we get

showers by the time we get inreugn — showers by the time we get inreugn ie — showers by the time we get through to afternoon. but through to the afternoon. but elsevvlere— through to the afternoon. but elsewhere, - as- through to the afternoon. but elsewhere,-as i- through to the afternoon. but elsewhere, as i said, elsewhere, though, as i said, a nuen— elsewhere, though, as i said, a nuen-ie— elsewhere, though, as i said, a nuen-ie ee- elsewhere, though, as i said, a- much -to come compared much drier day to come compared to much drier day to come compared ie—leis— much drier day to come compared ie—leis ei— much drier day to come compared to_lots of sunshine. to recent days. lots of sunshine vviin—i— to recent days. lots of sunshine vviin—i ininl- to recent days. lots of sunshine with _i think it- with light winds. i think it will— with light winds. i think it will-iii- with light winds. i think it will bit warmer will feel that bit warmer as well— will feel that bit warmer as well. - afternoon l will feel that bit warmer as. well.-afternoon we well. so by the afternoon we eeull— well. so by the afternoon we eeull-nigns— well. so by the afternoon we could-highs of- well. so by the afternoon we could-highs of 16- well. so by the afternoon we could highs of 16 or could see highs of 16 or 17 legrees— could see highs of 16 or 17 degrees,-few- could see highs of 16 or 17 degrees, few degrees could see highs of 16 or 17- degrees,-few degrees up degrees, a good few degrees up on degrees, a good few degrees up enes— ii- degrees, a good few degrees up enes— ii sievsl on friday's values as it stays lergelv— on friday's values as it stays lergelv-es— on friday's values as it stays lergelv-es vve— on friday's values as it stays largely as we head through largely dry as we head through inie— largely dry as we head through inie-enl— largely dry as we head through inie-enl-lrv- largely dry as we head throughi into-and-dry theme into sunday and that dry theme eeninuesi— into sunday and that dry theme continues-early- into sunday and that dry theme continues early part of continues into the early part of nexi— continues into the early part of nexi vveel— continues into the early part of next week-lots- continues into the early part of next week-lots of- continues into the early part of next week lots of fine next week as well. lots of fine vveeiner— next week as well. lots of fine weather-come.— next week as well. lots of fine weather come. winds will weather to come. winds will sieri— weather to come. winds will start-strengthen,- weather to come. winds will start strengthen, coming in start to strengthen, coming in fren— start to strengthen, coming in iren ine— start to strengthen, coming in from the east. _ start to strengthen, coming in from the east. it'll from the east. so it'll be eeeler— from the east. so it'll be- cooler—coast. cooler towards the east coast. lui— cooler towards the east coast. lui generellv— cooler towards the east coast. but generally, temperatures cooler towards the east coast. but gen up..ly, temperatures cooler towards the east coast. but gen up..ly, 1couldratures cooler towards the east coast. but gen up..ly, 1couldraturhighs coming up. we could see highs

welcome back to friday morning vviin— welcome back to friday morning vviin isiner— welcome back to friday morning with esther and— welcome back to friday morning with esther and phil, the time is— with esther and phil, the time is loze— with esther and phil, the time now is 1027 and— with esther and phil, the time now is 1027 and it's been eneiner— now is 1027 and it's been another busy— now is 1027 and it's been another busy week for the royal neusenell— another busy week for the royal household with _ another busy week for the royal household with invitations going out household with invitations going eui enl— household with invitations going eui enl vviin— household with invitations going out and with meghan announcing she out and with meghan announcing sne vveni— out and with meghan announcing sne vven-i le— out and with meghan announcing she won't be attending this nerning— she won't be attending this nerning ,— she won't be attending this nerning , ling— she won't be attending this morning , king charles is due to morning, king charles is due to inseeei— morning, king charles is due to inseeei ine— morning, king charles is due to inspect the 200th _ morning, king charles is due to inspect the 200th sovereign's ierele— inspect the 200th sovereign's ierele ei— inspect the 200th sovereign's parade at royal— inspect the 200th sovereign's parade at royal military academy senlnursi. — parade at royal military academy sandhurst. we're— parade at royal military academy sandhurst. �*fvirzi; ”it; “iii: parade at royal military academy sandhurst. �*fvirzi; ”it; “till: parade at royal military academy sandhurst. “till: sandhurst. we're joined now by gb news royal reporter cameron walker. cameron, thanks for joining us. apart from the

king's visit, we've also got a court case today . yes, we court case today. yes, we eerieinlv— court case today. yes, we eerieinlv le— court case today. yes, we certainly do. this- court case today. yes, we certainly do. this is- x yes, we certainly do. this is involving ine— certainly do. this is involving ine ellegel— certainly do. this is involving ine ellegel egg— certainly do. this is involving the alleged egg throwing ineilenis— the alleged egg throwing incidents in— the alleged egg throwing incidents in new york back in levenler— incidents in new york back in levenler .— incidents in new york back in november. if— incidents in new york back in november. if you remember, incidents in new york back in november . if you remember, there november. if you remember, there was november. if you remember, there e neering— november. if you remember, there e neering in— november. if you remember, there was a hearing in january where a 23 was a hearing in january where a ze veer— was a hearing in january where a ze veer ell— was a hearing in january where a 23 year old, patrick— was a hearing in january where a 23 year old, patrick thelwell eleelel— 23 year old, patrick thelwell eleelel nei— 23 year old, patrick thelwell pleaded not guilty to a section eeur— pleaded not guilty to a section ieur eullie— pleaded not guilty to a section four public order— pleaded not guilty to a section four public order offence today . lis— four public order offence today . lis inel— four public order offence today . his trial starts.— four public order offence today . his trial starts. and ahead of inei— . his trial starts. and ahead of inei inel— . his trial starts. and ahead of inei iriel ,— . his trial starts. and ahead of that trial , he's— . his trial starts. and ahead of that trial , he's spoken outside that trial, he's spoken outside eeuri. — that trial, he's spoken outside eeuri. se— that trial, he's spoken outside eeuri. se inis— that trial, he's spoken outside court. so this is— that trial, he's spoken outside court. so this is what he said ielev. — court. so this is what he said ielev. ine— court. so this is what he said today. the main— court. so this is what he said today. " today. the main issues of the trial are that i are being accused of threatening and violent behaviour that caused him to fear unlawful violence . him to fear unlawful violence. my him to fear unlawful violence. my defence is that i was acting to prevent people who suffer at the hands of the british state day in and day out because of the unlawful violence that is carried out by this state regime which descending fascism which is descending into fascism in our eyes. but my in front of our eyes. but my main defence is not a legal one, it's a moral one. and that is that my actions those of that my actions are those of a free defending themselves free person defending themselves because we all have the right to stand against a government stand up against a government thatis stand up against a government that is stripping us of our rights, banning protests . well,

rights, banning protests. well, the trial continues and- ” lg in?” g well, the trial continues and we'll neve— the trial continues and we'll neve ie— the trial continues and we'll neve ie vveii— the trial continues and we'll have to wait and— the trial continues and we'll have to wait and see exactly vvnei— have to wait and see exactly vvnei is— have to wait and see exactly vvnei is seil— have to wait and see exactly what is said in— have to wait and see exactly what is said in court today. but inis— what is said in court today. but inisleleerlv— what is said in court today. but inisleleerlv ,— what is said in court today. but this-clearly , you— what is said in court today. but this clearly , you know, this is clearly, you know, eening— this is clearly, you know, eening-e— this is clearly, you know, coming a couple this is clearly, you know,- coming-a couple lweeks coming just a couple of weeks ago— ago that buckingham palace announced-the- ago that buckingham palace announced the royal announced that the royal erenives— announced that the royal archives are— announced that the royal archives are essentially being eeenel— archives are essentially being eeenel up— archives are essentially being opened up student in opened up to a phd student in llenenesier— opened up to a phd student in manchester to _ opened up to a phd student in manchester to look at the links leivveen— manchester to look at the links leivveen ine— manchester to look at the links between the historical slave irele— between the historical slave irele enl— between the historical slave trade and the— between the historical slave trade and the british monarchy enl— trade and the british monarchy enl env— trade and the british monarchy and any potential profits that occurred because of that, the ling— occurred because of that, the ling nes— occurred because of that, the king has expressed his support for king has expressed his support ier ine— king has expressed his support for the research— king has expressed his support for the research ._ king has expressed his support for the research . his for the research. his spokesperson for the king said he spokesperson for the king said ne nel— spokesperson for the king said he had continued— spokesperson for the king said he had continued his pledge to leeeen— he had continued his pledge to leeeen nis— he had continued his pledge to deepen his understanding of sleverv-s— deepen his understanding of slavery's impact with vigour and determination.— slavery's impact with vigour and determination. that's information- determination. that's information is not expected to come out. that— information is not expected to come out. that risk search is nei— come out. that risk search is nei exeeeiel — come out. that risk search is not expected to _ come out. that risk search is not expected to come out until 2026.— not expected to come out until loze- se— not expected to come out until loze- se vve-ll— not expected to come out until 2026. so we'll have to wait and neerlv,— 2026. so we'll have to wait and see. clearly, this— 2026. so we'll have to wait and see. clearly, this is— 2026. so we'll have to wait and see. clearly, this is nothing to do see. clearly, this is nothing to le vviin— see. clearly, this is nothing to le vviin ine— see. clearly, this is nothing to do with the trial— see. clearly, this is nothing to do with the trial that's continuing— do with the trial that's continuing in york , but it's continuing in york, but it's iusi— continuing in york, but it's iusi e— continuing in york, but it's just a coincidence it's happening— just a coincidence it's happening same just a coincidence it's happening-same the happening at the same time. the eeurl— happening at the same time. the court case, wasn't— happening at the same time. the court case, wasn't-he- court case, wasn't it, when he said the haven't got said at the start, i haven't got a defence. my defence is a legal defence. my defence is a moral one. i'm not sure how moral one. yes. i'm not sure how well goes a court. well that goes down in a court. well, we'll we'll have to see

nevv— well, we'll we'll have to see new inei— well, we'll we'll have to see how that unfolds. _ well, we'll we'll have to see how that unfolds. but charles isn-i— how that unfolds. but charles isn-i neli— how that unfolds. but charles isn't half dealing with a lot of ei— isn't half dealing with a lot of issues at the— isn't half dealing with a lot of issues at the moment, isn't it? it issues at the moment, isn't it? ii sees— issues at the moment, isn't it? ii ene— issues at the moment, isn't it? it seems one after— issues at the moment, isn't it? it seems one after another and inen— it seems one after another and inen-reel— it seems one after another and inen-reel in- it seems one after another and then-read in the- then when you read in the rulers— then when you read in the eeeers veu— then when you read in the papers, you probably took it as a papers, you probably took it as e iii— papers, you probably took it as e lii ei— papers, you probably took it as e lii ei e— papers, you probably took it as a bit of a snub— papers, you probably took it as a bit of a snub that meghan isn-i— a bit of a snub that meghan isn-i eening— a bit of a snub that meghan isn't coming over to his eereneiien— isn't coming over to his coronation, particularly as he vvellel— coronation, particularly as he vvellel ner— coronation, particularly as he walked her down— coronation, particularly as he walked her down the aisle. but my walked her down the aisle. but nv guesiien— walked her down the aisle. but nv guesiien ie— walked her down the aisle. but my question to you is all well, in inei— my question to you is all well, in that meghan— my question to you is all well, in that meghan and harry neusenell— in that meghan and harry household ,_ in that meghan and harry household , so— in that meghan and harry household , so she's megxit as it household, so she's megxit as it iren ine— household, so she's megxit as it were, from the british royal ienilv— were, from the british royal renilv. sne-s— were, from the british royal family. she's not coming over leel— family. she's not coming over leel ie— family. she's not coming over leel ie ine— family. she's not coming over back to the uk,— family. she's not coming over back to the uk, are we going to e lriiiing— back to the uk, are we going to see a drifting apart of harry enl— see a drifting apart of harry enl llegnene— see a drifting apart of harry and meghan? it— see a drifting apart of harry and meghan? it seems that way. vvell— and meghan? it seems that way. vvell ii— and meghan? it seems that way. vvell ii is— and meghan? it seems that way. well, it is interesting— and meghan? it seems that way. well, it is interesting since- well, it is interesting since 2020 when megxit happened , 2020 when megxit happened, meghan has returned to the uk three times. harry has returned a lot more often for various reasons. the last time meghan was over here was for the queen's funeral. however, she was here anyway before the queen died because she was carrying out some charity engaged event we haven't seen meghan in public with harry at all this year. we had clearly the netflix document

that aired in january, but in terms of a live appearance , we terms of a live appearance, we haven't had one. so some people are starting to ask the question , why are we not seeing them together as this power couple, which we were led to believe they want voted to be? i think perhaps king charles. we know from my understand is very much still loves his son. and he is very pleased that both prince harry and prince william will be at the coronation to support him. course, it's of the him. of course, it's one of the most important of the most important days of the king's , but we are getting king's life, but we are getting that sense, aren't we, that meghan is distancing herself somewhat , not from the royal somewhat, not from the royal family separate lives. i mean, this will be a story— family separate lives. i mean, this will be a story that- this will be a story that uniells— this will be a story that uniells ,— this will be a story that unfolds , but- this will be a story that unfolds , but it seems to me they unfolds, but it seems to me they eeull— unfolds, but it seems to me they eeull le— unfolds, but it seems to me they eeull le geing— unfolds, but it seems to me they could be going their own seeereie— could be going their own separate ways. - could be going their own separate ways. g separate ways. but it's just to play separate ways. but it's just to play devil's is an argument that meghan's actually being kind to you, to the royal family, because have over because if she'd have come over , so much media , they'd have been so much media focus her. there might have focus on her. there might have been booing or whatever been all the booing or whatever from crowd whatever. from the crowd or whatever. and actually, staying away, the actually, by staying away, the focus going to be on the focus is going to be on the coronation than meghan

coronation rather than on meghan . you could argue that by not . so you could argue that by not coming, actually doing the coming, she's actually doing the royal a turn. yeah royal family a good turn. yeah i think meghan is in a very difficult situation because she is she does if she doesn't. is if she does if she doesn't. as you said, if she did come i— as you said, if she did come over, i think— as you said, if she did come over, i think people would accuse her of— over, i think people would accuse her of putting the seeiligni— accuse her of putting the seeiligni en— accuse her of putting the spotlight on her, overshadowing the coronation.— spotlight on her, overshadowing the coronation. of— spotlight on her, overshadowing the coronation. of course, the ine— the coronation. of course, the ivve nesi— the coronation. of course, the two most important people on the day two most important people on the lev ere— two most important people on the lev ine— two most important people on the lev ine ling— two most important people on the day are the king queen day are the king and queen eenseri. — day are the king and queen eenseri. se— day are the king and queen consort. so perhaps meghan day are the king and queen concomeso perhaps meghan day are the king and queen con come over rhaps meghan day are the king and queen con come over and s meghan day are the king and queen con come over and accompany did come over and accompany lerrv— did come over and accompany harryr ner— did come over and accompany harry, her critics— did come over and accompany harry, her critics would argue inei— harry, her critics would argue inei-is— harry, her critics would argue that is overshadowing that that she is overshadowing that enl— that she is overshadowing that enl-sieel— that she is overshadowing that and-steal the- and trying to steal the limelight. - and trying to steal the limelight. i- and trying to steal the limelight. and trying to steal the- limelight. i remember speaking to time, cameron, to you at the time, cameron, when it was a very when we said it was a very fortunate they fortunate date. they chose because the because not only was it the coronation, it was archie's coronation, it was also archie's birthday. did give people birthday. so it did give people a out. think the royal a get out. and i think the royal family are very good that. family are very good at that. now, by yougov now, polling here by yougov suggests that people aren't that enthused by the coronation. it's saying 52% are not interested . saying 52% are not interested. and 15% are very interested. what do you think that is about? is there has there been too many royal occasions of late? and we're all getting slightly , i

we're all getting slightly, i don't know, used to them because about them. i know there has been— about them. i know there has been e— about them. i know there has been e lei— about them. i know there has been a lot hasn't— i know there has been a lot hasn't there, in the lesi— been a lot hasn't there, in the lesi veer.— been a lot hasn't there, in the lesi veer. anl— been a lot hasn't there, in the last year. and in— been a lot hasn't there, in the last year. and in fact, i think vvnei-s— last year. and in fact, i think what's interesting what's really interesting is eneiner— what's really interesting is another yougov what's really interesting is- another_yougov poll another bit of that yougov poll eneng is— another bit of that yougov poll were among 18 to— another bit of that yougov poll were among 18 to year olds, were among 18 to 24 year olds, 75, were among 18 to 24 year olds, 75. inree— were among 18 to 24 year olds, 75, three quarters— were among 18 to 24 year olds, 75, three quarters don't care at all 75, three quarters don't care at ell er— 75, three quarters don't care at ell er verv— 75, three quarters don't care at all or very much— 75, three quarters don't care at all or very much about king enerles-s— all or very much about king charles's coronation. i think ei— charles's coronation. i think ei ine— charles's coronation. i think one of the big— charles's coronation. i think one of the big challenges for ine— one of the big challenges for ine level— one of the big challenges for the royal family— one of the big challenges for the royal family is to make the firm— the royal family is to make the inn eeeeel— the royal family is to make the inn eeeeel ie— the royal family is to make the firm appeal to the— the royal family is to make the firm appeal to the younger genereiien— firm appeal to the younger genereiien .— firm appeal to the younger generation . i— firm appeal to the younger generation . i think the added generation. i think the added pressure ler— generation. i think the added pressure for charles and camilla in eeriieuler— pressure for charles and camilla in eeriieuler is— pressure for charles and camilla in particular is that their eeeuleriiv— in particular is that their p0pularity is_ in particular is that their popularity is not as high as the nine— popularity is not as high as the erinee enl— popularity is not as high as the prince and princess of wales. irinee— prince and princess of wales. irinee enl— prince and princess of wales. prince and princess of wales are ielling— prince and princess of wales are eelling ei— prince and princess of wales are eelling ei ine— prince and princess of wales are eelling ei ine iel— prince and princess of wales are polling at the top of the latest veueev— polling at the top of the latest veueev pell— polling at the top of the latest yougov poll in— polling at the top of the latest yougov poll in terms of royal eeeuleriiv— yougov poll in terms of royal popularity amongst brits, nerees— popularity amongst brits, whereas charles and camilla iuriner— whereas charles and camilla further-pecking. whereas charles and camilla further pecking order. further down the pecking order. so further down the pecking order. se inev— further down the pecking order. se inev-ie— further down the pecking order. so they -to make - further down the pecking order. so they to make sure it's a so they need to make sure it's a seeeieeuler— so they need to make sure it's a spectacular occasion that's going— spectacular occasion that's going . benefit- spectacular occasion that's going benefit country. going to benefit the country. lev— going to benefit the country. now cameron,— going to benefit the country. now cameron, king, charles nesn-i— now cameron, king, charles hasn't arrived— now cameron, king, charles hasn't arrived at— now cameron, king, charles hasn't arrived at sandhurst yet as soon as he does, we'll be inere— as soon as he does, we'll be there bringing— as soon as he does, we'll be there bringing that news to you live— there bringing that news to you live . — there bringing that news to you live . lnl— there bringing that news to you live . and cameron,- there bringing that news to you live . ' r: cr?" ll there bringing that news to you live . r: ll live. and cameron, you'll be there giving us the details of

what's going on. but plenty more still to come on friday morning with me and phil junior. doctors have been accused of putting politics above patient safety, as figures showed, excess deaths almost tripled after their previous strikes. we'll be joined by journalist annabel denham to discuss just that. but stay with us because first, here's the news with rory . thank here's the news with rory. thank you, esther. the latest from the gb you, esther. the latest from the ll levvsreern— you, esther. the latest from the gb newsroom from _ the latest from the gb newsroom from the royal cellege— gb newsroom from the royal cellege ei— gb newsroom from the royal college of nursing is set to announce the— college of nursing is set to announce the results of a ballot on announce the results of a ballot en vvneiner— announce the results of a ballot on whether its— announce the results of a ballot on whether its members have eeeeeiel— on whether its members have eeeeeiel ine — on whether its members have accepted the government's latest pay accepted the government's latest eev ener.— accepted the government's latest eev eiier. uurse— accepted the government's latest pay offer. nurses and other neelin— pay offer. nurses and other health workers— pay offer. nurses and other health workers have been voting e 5%_ health workers have been voting e se pav— health workers have been voting over a 5% pay rise— health workers have been voting over a 5% pay rise this year and a over a 5% pay rise this year and e eesn— over a 5% pay rise this year and e eesn eevneni— over a 5% pay rise this year and a cash payment for— over a 5% pay rise this year and a cash payment for last year. unisen-s— a cash payment for last year. unison's ballot— a cash payment for last year. unison's ballot result is exeeeiel— unison's ballot result is expected over- unison's ballot result is expected over the next few days as expected over the next few days es e us— expected over the next few days as a us airman— expected over the next few days as a us airman suspected of leeling— as a us airman suspected of leeling nignlv— as a us airman suspected of leaking highly classified documents— leaking highly classified documents will appear at a court in massachusetts—

documents will appear at a court in massachusetts later today. 21 veer— in massachusetts later today. 21 veer ell— in massachusetts later today. 21 veer ell leel— in massachusetts later today. 21 year old jack teixeira was erresiel— year old jack teixeira was erresiel lv— year old jack teixeira was arrested by the - year old jack teixeira was arrested by the fbi yesterday eiier— arrested by the fbi yesterday after allegedly— arrested by the fbi yesterday after allegedly sharing highly sensiiive— after allegedly sharing highly sensitive government information , vvnien— sensitive government information , vvnien es— sensitive government information , vvnien leier— sensitive government information , which was later posted on a seeiel— , which was later posted on a social media— , which was later posted on a social media site.— , which was later posted on a social media site. it is the nesi— social media site. it is the most serious— social media site. it is the most serious security breach in the most serious security breach in ine us— most serious security breach in ine us in— most serious security breach in ine us in veers— most serious security breach in the us in years ._ most serious security breach in the us in years . the us the us in years. the us eresileni— the us in years. the us president will- the us in years. the us president will end his trip to irelenl— president will end his trip to ireland today— president will end his trip to ireland today by— president will end his trip to ireland today by visiting his eneesirel— ireland today by visiting his ancestral hometown . soon, joe ancestral hometown. soon, joe lilen— ancestral hometown. soon, joe lilen nill— ancestral hometown. soon, joe lilenvvillie— ancestral hometown. soon, joe biden will to travel the west eeesi— biden will to travel the west eeesi ei— biden will to travel the west coast of ireland,— biden will to travel the west coast of ireland, where he is exeeeiel— coast of ireland, where he is exeeeiel ie— coast of ireland, where he is expected to also— coast of ireland, where he is expected to also speak at a eeinelrel— expected to also speak at a cathedral in— expected to also speak at a cathedral in county mayo . his cathedral in county mayo. his ancestor had— cathedral in county mayo. his ancestor had sold— cathedral in county mayo. his ancestor had sold 27,000 bricks to ancestor had sold 27,000 bricks ie ine— ancestor had sold 27,000 bricks ie ine verv— ancestor had sold 27,000 bricks to the very same— ancestor had sold 27,000 bricks to the very same cathedral , to the very same cathedral, vvnien— to the very same cathedral, which later— to the very same cathedral, which later helped his family to sail which later helped his family to seil ie— which later helped his family to sail to america— which later helped his family to sail to america ._ which later helped his family to sail to america . the king will sail to america. the king will visii— sail to america. the king will visit sandhurst_ sail to america. the king will visit sandhurst royal military aeelenv— visit sandhurst royal military leelenv ielev— visit sandhurst royal military academy today for the 200th severeign-s— academy today for the 200th sovereign's parade . charles iii sovereign's parade. charles iii will— sovereign's parade. charles iii will inseeei— sovereign's parade. charles iii will inspect the— sovereign's parade. charles iii will inspect the officer cadets vvne— will inspect the officer cadets vvne neve— will inspect the officer cadets who have completed their commissioning during the ceremony, which is held three ines— ceremony, which is held three iines e— ceremony, which is held three iines e veer. — ceremony, which is held three times a year. the— ceremony, which is held three times a year. the sword of leneur — times a year. the sword of leneur ine— times a year. the sword of honour. the overseas sword and the honour. the overseas sword and ine ling-s—

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welcome back to friday morning with esther and phil. it's 1039. lots of news coming in, particularly about the face masks research done by karl heneghan and tom jefferson . heneghan and tom jefferson. heather says, i think face masks verv— heather says, i think face masks were very important as they made peerle— were very important as they made eeeele leel— were very important as they made eeeele ieel sele— were very important as they made people feel safe. i— were very important as they made people feel safe. i think eeriieulerlv— people feel safe. i think particularly when we started going— particularly when we started geing leel— particularly when we started going back out— particularly when we started going back out again and using eullie— going back out again and using public transport,— going back out again and using public transport, i— going back out again and using public transport, i know that i felt public transport, i know that i ieli e— public transport, i know that i ieli e lei— public transport, i know that i felt a lot happier— public transport, i know that i felt a lot happier when on a bus for felt a lot happier when on a bus ier ine— felt a lot happier when on a bus ier ine iirsi— felt a lot happier when on a bus for the first time— felt a lot happier when on a bus for the first time to— felt a lot happier when on a bus for the first time to see eervene — for the first time to see everyone wearing masks. so in inei— everyone wearing masks. so in inei-i— everyone wearing masks. so in inei-i ininl— everyone wearing masks. so in that-i thinklwas- that context, i think it was ineerienl— that context, i think it was important-that- that context, i think it was important. that about important. so that was about leeling— important. so that was about feeling—about. feeling. that wasn't about vvneiner— feeling. that wasn't about. vvneiner—use feeling. that wasn't about- vvneiner—use . whether they were of any use. lui— whether they were of any use. lui-vvnei— whether they were of any use. but-what you're- whether they were of any use. but what you're saying. it but i get what you're saying. it luili— but i get what you're saying. it built-confidence. - but i get what you're saying. it built confidence. built up your confidence. us sieenen— built up your confidence. us siepnen sevs— built up your confidence. us stephen says segment today stephen says the segment today was as was very interesting as a barrier covid. often barrier against covid. i often wondered be wondered that masks could be easily when people easily dirtied when people reuse them. if others felt them. i wonder if others felt similarly and comments about joe biden in ireland , anthony says. biden in ireland, anthony says. in my opinion, i think this man is of touch with the is totally out of touch with the reality situation reality of the situation in ireland . some might argue ireland. some might argue

anthony is out of touch completely . but. but we completely. but. but. but we wouldn't say that. no, no, no, no. that's that would be that's for to say. for other people to say. ungenerous that. but ungenerous to say that. but look, classified us look, 300 highly classified us documents have been leaked from the pentagon . a 21 year old us the pentagon. a 21 year old us nes— the pentagon. a 21 year old us airman has been— jig" a 21 year old us airman has been arrested over the airman has been arrested over ine leel— airman has been arrested over ine leel . — airman has been arrested over ine leel . l— airman has been arrested over the leak . ' ii. " 'l�*irt;�*"rt;rt.rt; the leak. a ministry of defence spokesperson said on twitter. the reported leak of the widely reported leak of alleged classified us information has demonstrated a serious of inaccuracy. serious level of inaccuracy. readers should be cautious about taking at face value allegations that have the potential to spread disinformation. well we're joined now by political commentator dr. jana harper hayes well, john, i'd like you to put some light on this. is it misinformation mission?- misinformation mission? is it a irue— misinformation mission? is it a irue leele— misinformation mission? is it a irue leele enl— misinformation mission? is it a true leak? and would really a 21 veer— true leak? and would really a 21 veer ell— true leak? and would really a 21 veer ell neve— true leak? and would really a 21 year old have had— true leak? and would really a 21 year old have had that high grele— year old have had that high grade intelligence ? c131 grade intelligence? great questions— grade intelligence? great guesiiens .— grade intelligence? great questions . is— grade intelligence? great questions . is it- grade intelligence? great questions . is it a false flag ? questions. is it a false flag? erg. how did they catch him so quickly when they couldn't the

fbi couldn't find the leaker of the roe v wade decision from the supreme court. still, you know, 18 months later. supreme court. still, you know, 18 months later . let's step back 18 months later. let's step back for a moment , 18 months later. let's step back for a moment, because we don't know if he is really the culprit . first off, it showed up in jan fury on this reddit. it didn't necessarily get enough traction . so then they moved it to a different chatroom . um, one of different chatroom. um, one of the things that . at first the the things that. at first the biden administration tried to convince the media was to say that it's descent information, misinformation on its fake news . et cetera. and eventually they got caught. and so they had to confess . now what? we don't know confess. now what? we don't know is that if he's a false flag, if he's a, because we have a battle going on between the globalists and the nationalists , we have a and the nationalists, we have a uni party that includes the

independence, the republic cons the democrats, and then we have the democrats, and then we have the republicans who you call maga . but that is a very big maga. but that is a very big growing faction . i think this growing faction. i think this was done to expose that biden administration was lying to the pubuc administration was lying to the public about how well we're doing in the . ukraine i mean, doing in the. ukraine i mean, the thing is here,— doing in the. ukraine i mean, the thing is here, jan,- doing in the. ukraine i mean, the thing is here, jan, i- lg " i mean, the thing is here, jan, i mean, eiiner— the thing is here, jan, i mean, eiiner ii-s— the thing is here, jan, i mean, either it's misinformation an enl— either it's misinformation an enl er— either it's misinformation an enl er ii-s— either it's misinformation an enl er is e— either it's misinformation an and or it's a leak. it seems to me— and or it's a leak. it seems to me ii— and or it's a leak. it seems to me ii een-i— and or it's a leak. it seems to me it can't be.— and or it's a leak. it seems to me it can't be. it— and or it's a leak. it seems to me it can't be. it can't be both eresunel— me it can't be. it can't be both eresunel eliv— me it can't be. it can't be both presumed ably. so— me it can't be. it can't be both presumed ably. so if it is a leel,— presumed ably. so if it is a leel, vve— presumed ably. so if it is a leak, we can— presumed ably. so if it is a leak, we can only presume that it leak, we can only presume that ii is— leak, we can only presume that ii is irue— leak, we can only presume that ii is irue .— leak, we can only presume that it is true . but— leak, we can only presume that it is true . but of— leak, we can only presume that it is true . but of course, it is true. but of course, inev-re— it is true. but of course, inev-re nei— it is true. but of course, they're not going to say that is— they're not going to say that is irue,— they're not going to say that is irue, ere— they're not going to say that it's true, are they? so, i mean, at it's true, are they? so, i mean, ei see— it's true, are they? so, i mean, ei reini— it's true, are they? so, i mean, at some point they're going to neve— at some point they're going to neve ie— at some point they're going to have to decide,— at some point they're going to have to decide, i— at some point they're going to have to decide, i guess, whether or have to decide, i guess, whether er-senelelv— have to decide, i guess, whether or- somebody just— have to decide, i guess, whether or somebody just posted or not somebody just posted a leel— or not somebody just posted a load-nonsense- or not somebody just posted a load nonsense there, load of old nonsense up there, in—ii-s— load of old nonsense up there, in—ii-s nei- in which case it's not particularly- in which case it's not particularly albie serious or inev-re—iel particularly albie serious or. they're—to admit they're going to have to admit inei—ii- they're going to have to admit inei—ii is- that it is a leak and it is genuine. — that it is a leak and it is genuine. which way do you think it's genuine. which way do you think ii-s geing— genuine. which way do you think is geing ie— genuine. which way do you think is geing ie gee — genuine. which way do you think it's going to go? r:rtr" g it's going to go? see, i don't ii— it's going to go? see, i don't see it as either situation see it as an either or situation . the fact is that that somebody

wanted it out, that the biden administration was not telling the truth to the public about how we're doing in the ukraine and when i said a false flag and and when i said a false flag and a and how did they catch him so quickly ? those are are quickly? those are are suspicious things to me because somebody wants to expose that the biden administration is lying about how well we're doing in the ukraine. now, i don't know if you're aware of operation mockingbird , but this operation mockingbird, but this was a church hearing, senator church . uh, i can't remember the church. uh, i can't remember the yeah church. uh, i can't remember the year, but it was a way back and it was determined that that the cia had plants in all of our media. now, if you think that the cia only deals with things outside of america, forget it . outside of america, forget it. they are messing with a lot of things. and right now there is this battle going on. do we

think biden's credible? do we think biden's credible? do we think the administration is credible ? and what are they not credible? and what are they not telling us? what do we need to know? and i think this is going to be an evolving situation. dr. jan harper hayes we will definitely be following this closely and i'm with you. it's going to be an unfolding siiueiien— going to be an unfolding situation. thank you for joining us inis— situation. thank you for joining us this morning— situation. thank you for joining us this morning. _ situation. thank you for joining us this morning. \rt,rrl t us this morning. now, junior doctors have been on a four day walkout this week. according to doctors have been on a four day wpublicthis week. according to doctors have been on a four day wpublic polliveek. according to doctors have been on a four day wpublic polliveelpsos:ording to doctors have been on a four day wpublic polliveelpsos mori g to doctors have been on a four day wpublic polliveelpsos mori 54% a public poll by ipsos mori 54% of people support doctors in their strike action. a quarter of a their strike action. a quarter ei e nillien— their strike action. a quarter of a million operations- ” t a quarter of a million operations and ireeinenis— of a million operations and treatments have been treatments may have been eeneellel— treatments may have been cancelled result the cancelled as a result of the ieur— cancelled as a result of the ieur lev— cancelled as a result of the four day walkout . junior doctors four day walkout. junior doctors neve— four day walkout. junior doctors neve-eeeusel— four day walkout. junior doctors have accused putting have been accused of putting eeliiies— have been accused of putting politics above _ have been accused of putting politics above patient safety , politics above patient safety, as figures— politics above patient safety, as figures showed, excess deaths elnesi— as figures showed, excess deaths elnesi irielel— as figures showed, excess deaths almost tripled after their previeus— almost tripled after their previous strikes. joining us now is annelel— previous strikes. joining us now is annabel denham, deputy eernrneni— is annabel denham, deputy comment editor— is annabel denham, deputy comment editor of the daily ielegreen— comment editor of the daily ielegreen ie— comment editor of the daily telegraph to discuss this. so reellv— telegraph to discuss this. so reellv ,— telegraph to discuss this. so reellv , es— telegraph to discuss this. so really , was this— telegraph to discuss this. so really , was this about pay and really, was this about pay and eenliiiens— really, was this about pay and conditions or— really, was this about pay and conditions or was— really, was this about pay and conditions or was it all about eeliiies— conditions or was it all about eeliiies enl— conditions or was it all about politics and a— conditions or was it all about politics and a militant infiltration _ politics and a militant infiltration of the bma ? well, i

infiltration of the bma? well, i ininl— infiltration of the bma? well, i ininl ine— infiltration of the bma? well, i think the problem actually is inei— think the problem actually is inei vve— think the problem actually is that we cannot— think the problem actually is that we cannot remove pay from eeliiies— that we cannot remove pay from eeliiies vvnen— that we cannot remove pay from politics when it— that we cannot remove pay from politics when it comes to remuneration— politics when it comes to remuneration of nhs staff leeuse— remuneration of nhs staff because we don't have a functioning— because we don't have a functioning medical labour nerlei. — functioning medical labour market. obviously we have a nationalised healthcare system, but we could nonetheless have some form of labour market within healthcare which would enable us to plug shortages in certain areas and certain specialities by promising people more pay if they went into those and the fact that we don't means that pay is persistently politicised . it also means that politicised. it also means that we have these national discussion lines over whether doctors deserve more pay. and you mentioned there that 54% in the ipsos mori poll , you mentioned there that 54% in the ipsos mori poll, and i was absolutely staggered to read that was the most recent data that was the most recent data that the number of people who strongly support the strike action has actually gone up in the last few weeks . now, it'll the last few weeks. now, it'll be interesting to see if that remains the case following this latest these latest statistics on the number of excess deaths rising during the two weeks of

the last bma strike action . the the last bma strike action. the point that i've been trying to make this week really is that i feel as though the british medical association, its supporters and its members are at risk of overplaying their hand. now, of course , they do hand. now, of course, they do have support. many people have public support. many people think that doctors deserve more pay - think that doctors deserve more pay . and, you know, to be fair pay. and, you know, to be fair to them , they have seen a real to them, they have seen a real terms cut in their pay over the last 13 or 14 years. however they keep pushing out this £14 an hour , um, number, which is an hour, um, number, which is extremely misleading given that junior doctors have a starting salary which is above the national average and they actually get paid around a third. more than that starting bafic third. more than that starting basic salary in extra payments. of course, it costs the taxpayer around £200,000 to train a doctor, which you wouldn't say about other workers in our economy who are on £14 an hour, such as bartenders and baristas

and the really crucial point is the fact that doctors get excessively generous, defined benefit pensions with employer contributions around three times that, that workers in the private sector get so it's very interesting there that senior doctors seem to be giving advice to junior doctors that actually their demand of 35% was naive and childish and un probably unachievable . what were they unachievable. what were they leing— unachievable. what were they leing inei— unachievable. what were they doing that for?— unachievable. what were they doing that for? and— t. “trt“ what were they doing that for? and they a. “at“ what were they doing that for? and they did a. “art“ what were they doing that for? and they did say eening— doing that for? and they did say eening leel— doing that for? and they did say coming back to— doing that for? and they did say coming back to your point about eensins— coming back to your point about eensins ii— coming back to your point about eensiens ii veu— coming back to your point about pensions, if you want your pay risev_ pensions, if you want your pay give— pensions, if you want your pay give up— pensions, if you want your pay rise, give up those. is that nignlv— rise, give up those. is that highly generous pension scheme? so highly generous pension scheme? se lees— highly generous pension scheme? se lees reeliiv— highly generous pension scheme? so does reality have to hit inese— so does reality have to hit these junior— so does reality have to hit these junior doctors in what inev-re— these junior doctors in what they're wanting— these junior doctors in what they're wanting as a pay rise ? they're wanting as a pay rise? eeeuse— they're wanting as a pay rise? leeuse i— they're wanting as a pay rise? because i think— they're wanting as a pay rise? because i think the popularity vviin— because i think the popularity vviin ine— because i think the popularity with the country— because i think the popularity with the country will fall when inev— with the country will fall when inev reelise— with the country will fall when they realise the— with the country will fall when they realise the amounts are leing— they realise the amounts are leing pell— they realise the amounts are leing eeil . — they realise the amounts are being paid . yes,- they realise the amounts are being paid . v/rt;~afr “ £5593 they realise the amounts are being paid. v/rt;~afr £5593 being paid. yes, i mean, 35% is obviously absolutely massive. it's over three times the current inflation rate. as steve barclay, the health secretary, pointed out at the weekend , it

pointed out at the weekend, it is widely out of step with the pay is widely out of step with the pay increases that are being offered to other public sector workers. and for some doctors it may amount to as much as £20,000 a year. you know, this is more than some people will earn in, you know, in a year on a typical income. so you know, i do think that they're asking for too much. it does feed into this idea that they're overplaying their hand. they remain very quiet on sector pensions, quiet on public sector pensions, although bma has been forced although the bma has been forced to out now say that in to come out now and say that in suggest doctors perhaps get a pay suggest doctors perhaps get a pay increase now for less jam , pay increase now for less jam, more less money in their public sector pensions, denim. thank you very much indeed- t r:rt“ thank you very much indeed for your insigni— you very much indeed for your insigni inie— you very much indeed for your insight into this— you very much indeed for your insight into this matter. thank veu.— insight into this matter. thank veu. len— insight into this matter. thank veu. uevv vvere— insight into this matter. thank you. now we're joined today in the you. now we're joined today in ine siulie— you. now we're joined today in ine siulie lv— you. now we're joined today in the studio by author and former leleur— the studio by author and former leleur ill— the studio by author and former labour mp simon— the studio by author and former labour mp simon danczuk and eeliiieel— labour mp simon danczuk and political commentator suzanne evens— political commentator suzanne ivens ie— political commentator suzanne evans were to start. maybe it's vviin— evans were to start. maybe it's vviin inei— evans were to start. maybe it's with that strike— evans were to start. maybe it's with that strike erg. “ with that strike erg. i mean, sinen— with that strike erg. i mean, sinnen vvere— with that strike erg. i mean, simon were you surprised that that of that opinion poll showed that of that opinion poll showed that the majority of the public support the doctors in their strike well, i'm strike action? yeah. well, i'm nei— strike action? yeah. well, i'm nei surerisel— strike action? yeah. well, i'm not surprised-that- strike action? yeah. well, i'm not surprised ithat .- strike action? yeah. well, i'm not surprised-that . i- t“ yeah. well, i'm not surprised that . i think not surprised by that. i think peerle—

not surprised by that. i think- eeeele—generellv people the public have generally a people the public have generally e eesiiive— people the public have generally e eesiiive-ei— people the public have generally a positive of doctors a positive view of doctors everell— a positive view of doctors overall all. _ a positive view of doctors overall all. but- a positive view of doctors overall all. but i suspect that inei— overall all. but i suspect that inei inei— overall all. but i suspect that that that that— overall all. but i suspect that that that that percentage will be erelel— that that that percentage will be eroded as— that that that percentage will be eroded as the— that that that percentage will be eroded as the strike goes on. anl— be eroded as the strike goes on. anl vvnei— be eroded as the strike goes on. anl vvnei i— be eroded as the strike goes on. and what i think— be eroded as the strike goes on. and what i think the strike snevvs— and what i think the strike snevvs is— and what i think the strike snevvs is ,— and what i think the strike shows is , is— and what i think the strike shows is , is really how shows is, is really how ineffective _ shows is, is really how ineffective the nhs model is. anl— ineffective the nhs model is. anl ine— ineffective the nhs model is. and the need— ineffective the nhs model is. and the need to— ineffective the nhs model is. and the need to reform it relieellv— and the need to reform it relieellv .— and the need to reform it radically . so— and the need to reform it radically . so i- and the need to reform it radically. so i think the junior leeiers— radically. so i think the junior leeiers geing— radically. so i think the junior doctors going on— radically. so i think the junior doctors going on strike are euiiing— doctors going on strike are putting another nail in the nhs eeiiin. — putting another nail in the nhs eeiiin. inei-s— putting another nail in the nhs coffin. that's the— putting another nail in the nhs coffin. that's the reality of it. coffin. that's the reality of ii. inev-ve— coffin. that's the reality of ii. inev-ve gei— coffin. that's the reality of it. they've got it's a nationalised- it. they've got it's a nationalised industry. they're using— nationalised industry. they're using ineir— nationalised industry. they're using their power to try and get more money. asking for 35% is, as more money. asking for 35% is, es nes— more money. asking for 35% is, es nes leen— more money. asking for 35% is, as has been said— more money. asking for 35% is, as has been said ,_ more money. asking for 35% is, as has been said , naive nail in as has been said, naive nail in ine— as has been said, naive nail in ine eenin— as has been said, naive nail in the coffin of— as has been said, naive nail in the coffin of the— as has been said, naive nail in the coffin of the nhs. “l: the coffin of the nhs. i think peerle— the coffin of the nhs. i think peeple er— the coffin of the nhs. i think people are finally starting to question this wonderful godlike nhs. i think you know the covid disasters, the lockdowns have forced long waiting lists . i forced long waiting lists. i think for the first time now, the general public is questioning whether, as simon says, the set up and the way it's managed and organised is really it can be and really the best it can be and i think people are concluding no, but i'm not really surprised think people are concluding no, but there's really surprised think people are concluding no, but there's stilly surprised think people are concluding no,

but there's stilly susupport that there's still the support for junior doctors. i mean, it forjunior doctors. i mean, it is know, nhs is is still, you know, the nhs is still british institution still the british institution that loves so that everybody loves most. so i'm not surprised. but do i'm not really surprised. but do i'm not really surprised. but do i support the junior doctors strike? honestly i can't really. i support the junior doctors s myself onestly i can't really. i support the junior doctors smyself have ly i can't really. i support the junior doctors s myself have had can't really. i support the junior doctors smyself have had an't really. i myself have had an appointment, cancelled four times now and i'm getting really quite peeved about that . and quite peeved about that. and other people a lot more people will be in that same situation. they do quite well as long as i've they've been i've been alive. they've been complaining about paying conditions. go into conditions. they must go into the profession knowing what it's like course the tax like. and of course the tax payer— like. and of course the tax payer-subsidise- like. and of course the tax. payer-subsidise-to like. and of course the tax- payer-subsidise-to the payer also subsidise them to the iune— payer also subsidise them to the iune ei— payer also subsidise them to the iune ei eleui— payer also subsidise them to the tune of about £200,000 for their for tune of about £200,000 for their ier ineir— tune of about £200,000 for their for their training— tune of about £200,000 for their for their training ._ tune of about £200,000 for their for their training . simon i for their training. simon i vvenlerel— for their training. simon i wondered what you made of the iniervievv—iee- wondered what you made of the interview—top of. interview we did at the top of ine— interview we did at the top of ine-vviin— interview we did at the top of the-with karl- interview we did at the top of the with karl heneghan and the show with karl heneghan and ren— the show with karl heneghan and ien leiiersen— the show with karl heneghan and tom jefferson about the results of tom jefferson about the results ei ineir— tom jefferson about the results ei ineir survev— tom jefferson about the results of their survey into how the uk use— of their survey into how the uk use nel— of their survey into how the uk hsa had justified— of their survey into how the uk hsa had justified the use of fee— hsa had justified the use of ieee nesls— hsa had justified the use of face masks and— hsa had justified the use of face masks and how they'd manipulated— face masks and how they'd manipulated std. the evidence to iusiiiv— manipulated std. the evidence to iusiiiv ii.— manipulated std. the evidence to iusiiiv ii. vvnei— manipulated std. the evidence to justify it. what did— manipulated std. the evidence to justify it. what did you what did justify it. what did you what lil veu— justify it. what did you what lil veu mele— justify it. what did you what did you make of— justify it. what did you what did you make of what they had to seve — did you make of what they had to seve vvell— did you make of what they had to seve well i— did you make of what they had to say? well, i have— did you make of what they had to say? well, i have to— did you make of what they had to say? ta“ say? well, i have to declare an interest. i was totally opposed to face mask. i hated wearing face masks. if anything would make me animate about a subject,

it face masks. but. but it was face masks. but. but specifically , what i think this specifically, what i think this shows is a real infringement on civil liberties . and that's the civil liberties. and that's the issue. what impact did making everybody wear face masks have on people's civil liberties ? and on people's civil liberties? and i suspect that we won't get to the bottom of this. it'll be covered up, it'll be moved on. and that's and, suzanne, they said they had their conclusion and cherry picked the data and they cherry picked the data to get to that conclusion. were you surprised? no, absolutely not, because it was obvious to anyone with a thinking brain cell that masks were not going to protect against a respiratory virus, which is why the health agencies had never suggested them for other respiratory virus viruses like simon, i was incensed by this. it made me so angry because i'm afraid i did see through the bull right from the word go. but as heather seil— the word go. but as heather seil veu— the word go. but as heather said, you know,— the word go. but as heather said, you know, she- : grtr but as heather said, you know, she was one of ine— said, you know, she was one of ine viees— said, you know, she was one of the viewers said— said, you know, she was one of the viewers said ,_ said, you know, she was one of the viewers said , but look, it the viewers said, but look, it geve— the viewers said, but look, it geve ne— the viewers said, but look, it gave me confidence to come back on gave me confidence to come back en ine— gave me confidence to come back en ine-ii— gave me confidence to come back en ine-ii mele— gave me confidence to come back on the-it made me- gave me confidence to come back on the it made me feel safe on the bus. it made me feel safe . se— on the bus. it made me feel safe . se inei-s— on the bus. it made me feel safe . so that's that's— on the bus. it made me feel safe . so that's that's different, ineugn— . so that's that's different, ineugn-e— . so that's that's different, though,-? and- though, isn't it? and i

wondered,— though, isn't it? and i wondered, meant though, isn't it? and i- wondered,-meant to be wondered, was it meant to be a verv— wondered, was it meant to be a verv visible— wondered, was it meant to be a very visible sign— wondered, was it meant to be a very visible sign to— wondered, was it meant to be a very visible sign to say to peerle— very visible sign to say to eeeele ,— very visible sign to say to people , covid- very visible sign to say to people , covid still with us? people, covid still with us? vvnei— people, covid still with us? we ere— people, covid still with us? what were we _ people, covid still with us? what were we wearing masks for? not what were we wearing masks for? uei ler— what were we wearing masks for? not for protection,— what were we wearing masks for? not for protection, but for einer— not for protection, but for other reasons?— not for protection, but for other reasons? ' grtqr not for protection, but for- other reasons? absolutely. i was really interested in heather's comment actually comment because actually she's hit nail on the head. my hit the nail on the head. my understanding that, of understanding is that, of course, originally health course, originally the health agencies point agencies were saying no point wearing then suddenly wearing masks. then suddenly we were wear them. were all forced to wear them. why was that? understanding why was that? my understanding is that the economy didn't bounce back as quickly after the first lockdown, when it was lifted the government lifted and the government thought can we do to get thought, what can we do to get people out on the streets? people back out on the streets? i let's introduce masks i know. let's introduce masks and them safe. and and make them feel safe. and simon, that yougov simon, what about that yougov poll about the coronation 52% of us aren't so enthused— t rtr“ 52% of us aren't so enthused about it. in — us aren't so enthused about it. in surerisel— us aren't so enthused about it. in surprisel lv— us aren't so enthused about it. i'm surprised by that— us aren't so enthused about it. i'm surprised by that ,- us aren't so enthused about it. i'm surprised by that , actually. i'm surprised by that, actually. people appear to be growing bored of the royal family saga as it goes on. the good news is it's in the daily mail today that prince andrew is not going to write a an autobiography. so that's a bit of good news for king charles, but it probably didn't say he wasn't going to do

a netflix series, so he might not write a book. he might do a leeu— not write a book. he might do a docu commentary.— not write a book. he might do a docu commentary. yeah.- he might do a docu commentary. yeah. “ docu commentary. yeah. i mean, the docu commentary. yeah. i mean, ine elner— docu commentary. yeah. i mean, the other thing that we were discussing, suzanne, joe the other thing that we were discusinig, suzanne, joe the other thing that we were discusin ireland.ine, joe the other thing that we were discusin ireland. what's joe the other thing that we were discusin ireland. what's been biden in ireland. what's been your assessment of his of his visit? is he he the visit? is he does he hate the british, do think? i think visit? is he does he hate the bri does. io think? i think visit? is he does he hate the bri does. i think? i think visit? is he does he hate the bri does. i thinkiink? i think visit? is he does he hate the bri does. i think arlene think visit? is he does he hate the bri does. i think arlene foster he does. i think arlene foster eeiuellv— he does. i think arlene foster eeiuellv nii— he does. i think arlene foster actually hit the _ he does. i think arlene foster actually hit the nail- : i think arlene foster actually hit the nail on the neel. —ne- actually hit the nail on the- head. -he-supposed head. you know, he was supposed to head. you know, he was supposed ie-lig— head. you know, he was supposed to-big bilateral- to have this big bilateral neeiing— to have this big bilateral meeting with— to have this big bilateral meeting with rishi which meeting with rishi sunak, which iurnel— meeting with rishi sunak, which iurnel inie— meeting with rishi sunak, which turned into what— meeting with rishi sunak, which turned into what everyone's lulling— turned into what everyone's dubbing because they dubbing a bilat because they liierellv— dubbing a bilat because they liierellv iusi— dubbing a bilat because they literally just down a literally just sat down for a guiel— literally just sat down for a quick-coffee - literally just sat down for a quick coffee and a photo quick cup of coffee and a photo eneie— quick cup of coffee and a photo eneie sneei— quick cup of coffee and a photo eneie sneei .— quick cup of coffee and a photo photo shoot . you— quick cup of coffee and a photo photo shoot . you know, of photo shoot. you know, lots of peerle— photo shoot. you know, lots of eeeele leni— photo shoot. you know, lots of people don't like— photo shoot. you know, lots of people don't like trump. i'm linl— people don't like trump. i'm linl ei— people don't like trump. i'm kind of like— people don't like trump. i'm kind of like on— people don't like trump. i'm kind of like on the fence with irunn— kind of like on the fence with irunn lui— kind of like on the fence with irunn lui sev— kind of like on the fence with trump, but say what you like eleui— trump, but say what you like eleui nin. — trump, but say what you like about him..loved- trump, but say what you like about him. loved britain and about him. he loved britain and he about him. he loved britain and ne-eleer— about him. he loved britain and ne-eleer ne— about him. he loved britain and he-clear he loved- he made it clear he loved lriiein— he made it clear he loved lriieinlue— he made it clear he loved britain he biden he made it clear he loved britainihe-biden as britain. he kept biden just as vvell— britain. he kept biden just as well liln-i— britain. he kept biden just as well, didn't he?— britain. he kept biden just as well, didn't he? he did. he did. lilen— well, didn't he? he did. he did. lilen on— well, didn't he? he did. he did. lilen on .— well, didn't he? he did. he did. lilen on . ne— well, didn't he? he did. he did. biden on , no. he— well, didn't he? he did. he did. biden on , no. he clearly he's biden oh, no. he clearly he's nei— biden oh, no. he clearly he's nei inei— biden oh, no. he clearly he's nei inei-us- biden oh, no. he clearly he's not that-us much. biden oh, no. he clearly he's- not that-us much prefers biden oh, no. he clearly he's- not irish-us much prefers biden oh, no. he clearly he's not irish roots. us much prefers biden oh, no. he clearly he's not irish roots. and; much prefers biden oh, no. he clearly he's not irish roots. and imuch prefers biden oh, no. he clearly he's not irish roots. and i think prefers biden oh, no. he clearly he's not irish roots. and i think he fers his irish roots. and i think he rulling— his irish roots. and i think he was rubbing.in_ his irish roots. and i think he was rubbing in our faces was rubbing it in our faces a lil — was rubbing it in our faces a lil i— was rubbing it in our faces a bit. i-shocked,- was rubbing it in our faces a bit. i was shocked, though, darren mccaffrey about darren mccaffrey said, about the number in ireland number of people in ireland who have heritage. you can have irish heritage. so you can see why biden's place. see why joe biden's place. that's if he's going to that's why it's if he's going to announce dance,— that's why it's if he's going to announce dance, he can't blame nin— announce dance, he can't blame nin ler— announce dance, he can't blame nin ierinei. — announce dance, he can't blame him for that. / if he's him for that. yeah. if he's going— him for that. yeah. if he's geing ie— him for that. yeah. if he's going to stand— him for that. / if he's going to stand again, he wants inese— going to stand again, he wants inese veies —

going to stand again, he wants those votes. look— going to stand again, he wants those votes. look we'll be back vviin— those votes. look we'll be back vviin veu— those votes. look we'll be back vviin veu lein— those votes. look we'll be back with you both soon. and with you both very soon. and inere-s— with you both very soon. and ile eleniv— with you both very soon. and there's plenty still to there's plenty more still to come. -joined- there's plenty more still to come.-joined by. there's plenty more still to. come.-joined by dup there's plenty more still to- come.-joined by dup mp come. we'll be joined by dup mp sennv— come. we'll be joined by dup mp sennv vvilsen— come. we'll be joined by dup mp sammy wilson on— come. we'll be joined by dup mp sammy wilson on what he thinks eleui— sammy wilson on what he thinks eleui lilen-s— sammy wilson on what he thinks about biden's visit— sammy wilson on what he thinks about biden's visit to northern irelenl. — about biden's visit to northern irelenl. ill— about biden's visit to northern ireland. i'll be— about biden's visit to northern ireland. .. r: t “g ireland. i'll be discussing the latest on the pentagon leaks. that and much more. so stay with us. good morning and welcome to our latest update brought you our latest update brought to you by met office. i'm mark by the met office. i'm mark wilson. -through. by the met office. i'm mark. wilson.-through friday. wilson. so we're through friday. inen—ei- then it's another day of sunsnine— then it's another day of. sunshine _with then it's another day of- sunshine _with the sunshine and showers with the risl— sunshine and showers with the risl-nere— sunshine and showers with the risk more persistent sunshine and showers with the risk affecting�*nore persistent sunshine and showers with the risk affecting partsziersistent sunshine and showers with the risk affecting parts of sistent sunshine and showers with the risk affecting parts of theznt rain affecting parts of the seuin— rain affecting parts of the. south _ afternoon. rain affecting parts of the- south _ afternoon. but south through the afternoon. but vvinls—lii- south through the afternoon. but winds—bit lighter. winds will stay that bit lighter inen— winds will stay that bit lighter inen-leen- winds will stay that bit lighter than_been.late.l than they have been of late. we leel—eeiiernl look at the pressure pattern. inen— look at the pressure pattern. inen-see— look at the pressure pattern. then - see the - look at the pressure pattern. then see the reason look at the pressure pattern.- then-see the reason why then you can see the reason why len— then you can see the reason why levv—rigni- then you can see the reason why low—right across. low pressure centre right across the low pressure centre right across ine ill— low pressure centre right across ine ill es— low pressure centre right across ine ill es vve— low pressure centre right across the uk as we head— low pressure centre right across the uk as we head through friday and the uk as we head through friday enl-ine— the uk as we head through friday and-the weather- the uk as we head through friday and the weather front and this is the weather front nere— here that could bring some neevien— here that could bring some. heavier,_rain, heavier, more persistent rain, at heavier, more persistent rain, ei—iine.- heavier, more persistent rain, ei—iine. se- heavier, more persistent rain, ei—iine. se vvel heavier, more persistent rain,i at_time. so we pick at least for a time. so we pick uplihai_ at least for a time. so we pick uplinei-inen- at least for a time. so we pick up that then affecting up on that rain then affecting peris— up on that rain then affecting eeris—esl up on that rain then affectingi eeris—es vve parts of the south—west as we neel— parts of the south—west as we neel inreugn— parts of the south—west as we head through friday morning. slevvlv—iis- head through friday morning. slevvlv—iis vvev| slowly then pushing its way eesivverls— slowly then pushing its way eastwards-head- slowly then pushing its way eastwards head through eastwards as we head through the day eastwards as we head through the lev ie— eastwards as we head through the lev ie eiieei— eastwards as we head through the day to affect southern day to affect other southern eeuniies — day to affect other southerni eeuniies —gei counties. by the time we get inreugn— counties. by the time we get through afternoon through to the afternoon with _n..., i through to the afternoon with serneere—n eii some stronger winds here, at leesi— some stronger winds here, at lees-iine— some stronger winds here, at least time. elsewhere, least for a time. but elsewhere, ineugn— least for a time. but elsewhere, ineugn-inere— least for a time. but elsewhere, though,-there-be- least for a time. but elsewhere, though, there be some though, yes, there will be some lrigni— though, yes, there will be some lrigni-seells. - though, yes, there will be some bright-spells. but- bright or sunny spells. but egein— bright or sunny spells. but egein-le- bright or sunny spells. but again,-be long- again, it won't be long before inese— again, it won't be long before inese neevv— again, it won't be long before those heavy showers develop those heavy showers will develop just those heavy showers will develop iusi—seel just about anywhere could see a nseer— just about anywhere could see a snevve-eeull- just about anywhere could see a shower-could be- shower and they could be heavy vviin — shower and they could be heavy vviin nesl—

shower and they could be heavy with-risk-and- with the risk of hail and inunlen— with the risk of hail and thunder, although turning a senevvnei— thunder, although turning a somewhat little bit drier, lrignier— somewhat little bit drier, brighter as brighter across the far west as we brighter across the far west as vve-ine— brighter across the far west as we _the afternoon. . we head into the afternoon. egein— we head into the afternoon. again, temperatures disappointing for the time of the disappointing for the time of ine—legrees- disappointing for the time of the—degrees is. the year, 9 to 12 degrees is veur— the year, 9 to 12 degrees is your afternoon— the year, 9 to 12 degrees is your afternoon high now through the year, 9 to 12 degrees is you restarnoon high now through the year, 9 to 12 degrees is you rest of oon high now through the year, 9 to 12 degrees is you rest of fridaygh now through the year, 9 to 12 degrees is you rest of fridaygh n(the hrough the rest of friday into the evening— the rest of friday into the evening overnight, those evening and overnight, those nseers— showers towards the southeast nill— showers towards the southeast viii—ei- will merge into a spell of lengen— will merge into a spell of longer, more— will merge into a spell of longer, more persistent rain. so guiie— longer, more persistent rain. so guiie-eieiure— longer, more persistent rain. so quite picture through quite a wet picture through the irilev— quite a wet picture through thei irilev—eeress friday evening rush hour across peris— friday evening rush hour across eerisline— friday evening rush hour across parts the south—east parts of the south—east elsewhere, _ elsewhere, though, it will turn lrier— elsewhere, though, it will turn lrier-nenv— elsewhere, though, it will turn drier-manylthose- elsewhere, though, it will turn drier many those showers drier with many of those showers ieling— drier with many of those showers ieling evvev— drier with many of those showers fading away overnight. 2 fading away overnight. 1 or 2 nisi— fading away overnight. 1 or 2 nisi-leg— fading away overnight. 1 or 2 mist-fog patches- fading away overnight. 1 or 2 mist fog patches developing fading away overnight. 1 or 2 mist again.g patches developing fading away overnight. 1 or 2 mist again.g patunderieveloping fading away overnight. 1 or 2 mist again.g patunder those)ing once again. and under those eleer— once again. and under those clear-another- clear skies, another fairly enillv— chilly night to come. temperatures spots in temperatures in rural spots in eeriieuler— temperatures in rural spots in particular falling— temperatures in rural spots in particular falling fairly close to particular falling fairly close ie-se— particular falling fairly close ie-seliresi- particular falling fairly close i to _so lfrost . some particular falling fairly close. to us. _solfrostisome particular falling fairly close to us. but so frost some particular falling fairly close to us. but under frost some particular falling fairly close to us. but under those some particular falling fairly close to us. but under those clearne of us. but under those clear slies— of us. but under those clear slies vve— of us. but under those clear slies vve gei— of us. but under those clear skies, we get off— of us. but under those clear skies, we get off to a fine sieri— skies, we get off to a fine sieri en— skies, we get off to a fine start on saturday morning. a reellv—ie- start on saturday morning. a reellv—ie ine- really good start to the vveelenl— really good start to the weekend. lots of sunshine. first ining— weekend. lots of sunshine. first ining-e— weekend. lots of sunshine. first ining-e lii— weekend. lots of sunshine. first thing,-a bit-cloud,- thing, still a bit more cloud, ineugn— thing, still a bit more cloud,- though,_southeastern thing, still a bit more cloud, though,particularly southeastern thing, still a bit more cloud, though,particularly east heastern corner, particularly east uillenls— corner, particularly east- midlands,_southeast midlands, east anglia, southeast inglenl. — england. and that could lead to 1 2 england. and that could lead to i? nseers— england. and that could lead to 1.2 showers-the- england. and that could lead to 1 2 showers the time we 1 or 2 showers by the time we get— 1 or 2 showers by the time we gei-ie— 1 or 2 showers by the time we gei-ie ine— 1 or 2 showers by the time we get to the afternoon. get through to the afternoon. lui— get through to the afternoon. but elsewhere,— get through to the afternoon. but elsewhere, though, as i seil— but elsewhere, though, as i seil-lrier- but elsewhere, though, as i said,-drier day- but elsewhere, though, as i said, drier day to but elsewhere, though, as i- said,-drier day to come said, a much drier day to come eeneerel— said, a much drier day to come compared-recent— said, a much drier day to come compared recent days. of compared to recent days. lots of sunsnine— compared to recent days. lots of sunsnine-ligni— compared to recent days. lots of sunshine-light-i- sunshine with light winds. i ininl—inei- sunshine with light winds. i think—that bit. think it will feel that bit. warmer—the warmer as well. so by the eiierneen — warmer as well. so by the afternoon-could- warmer as well. so by the afternoon could see highs of afternoon we could see highs of 16 afternoon we could see highs of ie er— afternoon we could see highs of ie erllegrees— afternoon we could see highs of 16 orldegrees, a— afternoon we could see highs of 16 or degrees, a good few 16 or 17 degrees, a good few legrees— 16 or 17 degrees, a good few legreeslen— 16 or 17 degrees, a good few degrees on friday's values. degrees up on friday's values. it degrees up on friday's values. ii sievs— degrees up on friday's values. ii sievs-lrv— degrees up on friday's values. ii sievs-lrvlvve- degrees up on friday's values. it stays dry we head it stays largely dry as we head

inreugn—enl- it stays largely dry as we head through—and thati it stays largely dry as we head. through—and that dry through into sunday and that dry inene— through into sunday and that dry theme continues— through into sunday and that dry theme continues into the early pari— theme continues into the early een—es- theme continues into the early een—es vvell - theme continues into the early| part—as well. lots part of next week as well. lots of part of next week as well. lots ei-vveeiner— part of next week as well. lots of-weather to _ part of next week as well. lots of weather to come. winds of fine weather to come. winds will— of fine weather to come. winds will-strengthen,- of fine weather to come. winds will strengthen, coming will start to strengthen, coming in—se— will start to strengthen, coming in—se ii- will start to strengthen, coming in—se ii vill- will start to strengthen, coming in _50 it will be. in from the east. so it will be eeeler— in from the east. so it will be cooler towards— in from the east. so it will be cooler towards the— in from the east. so it will be cooler towards the east coast. lui— cooler towards the east coast. but-temperatures. but generally, temperatures eening— but generally, temperatures . eening—nigns but generally, temperatures - eening—nigns ei coming up. we could see highs of 18 coming up. we could see highs of is er— coming up. we could see highs of is erllegrees— coming up. we could see highs of is erllegrees .—

good morning and welcome to the second hour of friday morning with on gb with esther and phil here on gb news. president biden is on the lesi— news. president biden is on the lesi lev— news. president biden is on the lesi lev ei— news. president biden is on the lesi lev ei nis— news. president biden is on the last day of his trip— news. president biden is on the last day of his trip to- \r president biden is on the last day of his trip to ireland. sennv— last day of his trip to ireland. sammy wilson,— last day of his trip to ireland. sammy wilson, chief whip the sammy wilson, chief whip for the illu— sammy wilson, chief whip for the dup,-discussing- sammy wilson, chief whip for the dup,-discussing his- dup, will be discussing his use— dup, will be discussing his visii vviin— dup, will be discussing his visit with us— dup, will be discussing his visit with us and we'll be seeeling— visit with us and we'll be seeeling ie— visit with us and we'll be speaking to us. . rta speaking to us. political analyst eric ham regarding the latest news on those pentagon leaks. a new report released ielev— leaks. a new report released ielev suggesis— a new report released today suggests childcare costs are today suggests childcare costs preveniing— today suggests childcare costs are preventing mothers from reiurning— are preventing mothers from reiurning ie— are preventing mothers from returning to work. we'll be liseussing— returning to work. we'll be discussing this— returning to work. we'll be discussing this with a mother enl— discussing this with a mother enl ine— discussing this with a mother and the chief— discussing this with a mother and the chief executive of the

eerlv— and the chief executive of the eerlv veers— and the chief executive of the early years alliance, neil leeen. — early years alliance, neil leech. and— early years alliance, neil leech. ' “r: early years alliance, neil leech. “r: “ early years alliance, neil- leech. and aslef. this morning, we want to hear from you. so get involved the email us involved with the show. email us at gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet us at gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet us at gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet us at gb views news. but before thatis at gb views news. but before that is your latest headlines with rory . thank you very much, with rory. thank you very much, esther. i'm rory smith with the leiesi— esther. i'm rory smith with the leiesi in— esther. i'm rory smith with the leiesi in ine— esther. i'm rory smith with the latest in the gb— i'm rory smith with the latest in the gb newsroom the level— latest in the gb newsroom the level eellege— latest in the gb newsroom the royal college of— latest in the gb newsroom the royal college of nursing is set to announce the— royal college of nursing is set to announce the results of a lellei— to announce the results of a lellei en— to announce the results of a ballot on the— to announce the results of a ballot on the government's leiesi— ballot on the government's leiesi pav— ballot on the government's latest pay offer. _ ballot on the government's latest pay offer. nurses and einer— latest pay offer. nurses and other health— latest pay offer. nurses and other health workers have been veiing— other health workers have been veiing ever— other health workers have been veiing e— other health workers have been voting over a 5%_ other health workers have been voting over a 5% pay rise this veer— voting over a 5% pay rise this veer enl— voting over a 5% pay rise this veer enl e— voting over a 5% pay rise this year and a cash— voting over a 5% pay rise this year and a cash payment for last veer.— year and a cash payment for last year. meanwhile,— year and a cash payment for last year. meanwhile, unison's ballot resuli— year. meanwhile, unison's ballot resuli is— year. meanwhile, unison's ballot result is expected— year. meanwhile, unison's ballot result is expected over the next ievv— result is expected over the next few levs— result is expected over the next few days. shadow— result is expected over the next few days. shadow treasury uinisier— few days. shadow treasury minister james— few days. shadow treasury minister james murray says the severnneni— minister james murray says the government has— minister james murray says the government has not done enough to government has not done enough ie eveil— government has not done enough to avoid industrial— government has not done enough to avoid industrial action. it feels— to avoid industrial action. it feels rile— to avoid industrial action. it feels like the— to avoid industrial action. it feels like the government hasn't reellv— feels like the government hasn't reellv leernel— feels like the government hasn't really learned anything from vvnei-s— really learned anything from vvnei-s eeen— really learned anything from what's been going on over many nenins— what's been going on over many nenins . — what's been going on over many nenins . unen— what's been going on over many months . when you— what's been going on over many months . �*flr�*“rt“ what's been going on over many months . .. months. when you look at the junior doctor dispute in there and the government's failure to

negotiate them, you negotiate it with them, you know, negotiations about know, negotiations are about compromise. you have the compromise. when you have the employee representatives setting out their initial starting out what their initial starting point is, think know point is, i think people know they're likely to get that. they're not likely to get that. there to to be there is going to have to be compromise. that's the compromise. that's that's the necessity of negotiation is to make sure a compromise happens. but that compromise , but having that compromise, having deal what is so having that deal is what is so critical about avoiding industrial going ahead . a industrial action going ahead. a us airman suspected of leaking highly classified documents will appear at a court in massachusetts later today. 21 year old jack tachira was erresiel— year old jack tachira was erresiel lv— year old jack tachira was arrested by the fbi yesterday euer— arrested by the fbi yesterday after allegedly— arrested by the fbi yesterday after allegedly sharing highly sensiiive— after allegedly sharing highly sensitive government information on sensitive government information en vvnien— sensitive government information en vvnien es— sensitive government information on which was later— sensitive government information on which was later posted on a seeiel— on which was later posted on a seeiel nelie— on which was later posted on a social media site.— on which was later posted on a social media site. it's the most serious security— social media site. it's the most serious security breach in the us serious security breach in the us in— serious security breach in the us in veers— serious security breach in the us in veers .— serious security breach in the us in years . the— serious security breach in the us in years . the us president us in years. the us president ienigni— us in years. the us president ienigni nill— us in years. the us president tonight will end— us in years. the us president tonight will end his trip to irelenl— tonight will end his trip to ireland today— tonight will end his trip to ireland today by visiting his eneesirel— ireland today by visiting his ancestral hometown. joe biden vvill— ancestral hometown. joe biden vvill irevel— ancestral hometown. joe biden will travel to _ ancestral hometown. joe biden will travel to the— ancestral hometown. joe biden will travel to the west coast of irelenl — will travel to the west coast of ireland, where _ will travel to the west coast of ireland, where he— will travel to the west coast of ireland, where he is also exeeeiel— ireland, where he is also exeeeiel ie— ireland, where he is also expected to speak at a karthik

erel— expected to speak at a karthik erel in— expected to speak at a karthik erel in eeuniv— expected to speak at a karthik oral in county mayo. his ancest eenie— oral in county mayo. his ancest eenire nel— oral in county mayo. his ancest centre had sold— oral in county mayo. his ancest centre had sold 27,000 bricks to the centre had sold 27,000 bricks to ine verv— centre had sold 27,000 bricks to ine verv see— centre had sold 27,000 bricks to the very same cathedral, which leier— the very same cathedral, which leier neleel— the very same cathedral, which later helped his— the very same cathedral, which later helped his family to sail to later helped his family to sail ie eneriee— later helped his family to sail ie eneriee .— later helped his family to sail to america . the— later helped his family to sail to america . the king is visiting to america. the king is visiting senlnursi— to america. the king is visiting sandhurst royal— to america. the king is visiting sandhurst royal military academy for sandhurst royal military academy ier ine— sandhurst royal military academy ier ine 200th— sandhurst royal military academy for the 200th sovereign's parade . inese— for the 200th sovereign's parade . inese ere— for the 200th sovereign's parade . these are live— for the 200th sovereign's parade . these are live pictures of the eveni— . these are live pictures of the eveni vvnien— . these are live pictures of the event which we're— . these are live pictures of the event which we're expecting to ine — event which we're expecting to see the monarch— event which we're expecting to see the monarch imminently. king enerles— see the monarch imminently. king enerles will— see the monarch imminently. king charles will inspect— see the monarch imminently. king charles will inspect the officer eeleis— charles will inspect the officer eeleis vvne — charles will inspect the officer cadets who have— charles will inspect the officer cadets who have completed their eennissiening— cadets who have completed their commissioning during the ceremony, which is held three iines— ceremony, which is held three iines e— ceremony, which is held three iines e veer— ceremony, which is held three iines e veer .— ceremony, which is held three times a year . the— ceremony, which is held three times a year. the sword of ueneur— times a year. the sword of ueneur ine— times a year. the sword of honour, the overseas sword and the honour, the overseas sword and ine ling-s— honour, the overseas sword and the king's medal— honour, the overseas sword and the king's medal will be awarded to the king's medal will be awarded ie ine— the king's medal will be awarded ie ine iee— the king's medal will be awarded to the top officer— the king's medal will be awarded to the top officer cadets. meanwhile _ to the top officer cadets. meanwhile a _ to the top officer cadets. meanwhile a student is on trial for meanwhile a student is on trial ier ellegellv— meanwhile a student is on trial for allegedly throwing eggs at the for allegedly throwing eggs at ine ling— for allegedly throwing eggs at the king during— for allegedly throwing eggs at the king during a visit to york in uevenler— the king during a visit to york in november ._ the king during a visit to york in november. 23— the king during a visit to york in november. 23 year old patrick inelvvell— in november. 23 year old patrick inelvvell is— in november. 23 year old patrick thelwell is charged with threatening— thelwell is charged with threatening behaviour contrary to threatening behaviour contrary ie ine— threatening behaviour contrary ie ine eullie— threatening behaviour contrary to the public order act. the universiiv— to the public order act. the university of _ to the public order act. the university of york student

lenies— university of york student lenies ine — university of york student denies the charge . farage. while denies the charge. farage. while seeeling— denies the charge. farage. while speaking outside— denies the charge. farage. while speaking outside york magistrates- speaking outside york magistrates court, thelwell said his magistrates court, thelwell said nis eeiiens— magistrates court, thelwell said his actions were _ magistrates court, thelwell said his actions were a— magistrates court, thelwell said his actions were a protest egeinsi— his actions were a protest egeinsi ine— his actions were a protest against the government. my leienee— against the government. my leienee is— against the government. my defence is that— against the government. my defence is that i— against the government. my defence is that i was acting to ereveni— defence is that i was acting to ereveni peerle— defence is that i was acting to prevent people who suffer at the nenls— prevent people who suffer at the nenls ei— prevent people who suffer at the nenls ei ine — prevent people who suffer at the hands of the british state day in enl— hands of the british state day in enl lev— hands of the british state day in and day out— hands of the british state day in and day out because of the unlevviul— in and day out because of the unlawful violence— in and day out because of the unlawful violence that's carried out unlawful violence that's carried eui lv— unlawful violence that's carried eui lv inis— unlawful violence that's carried out by this state— unlawful violence that's carried out by this state regime which is descending— out by this state regime which is descending into fascism in ereni— is descending into fascism in ireni ei— is descending into fascism in ireni ei eur— is descending into fascism in front of our-but- is descending into fascism in front of our-but my. is descending into fascism in. front of our-but my main front of our eyes. but my main defence is not a legal one, it's a moral one. and in that is that my actions a free my actions are those of a free person defending themselves because all have the right to because we all have the right to stand up against a government that stripping of our that is stripping us of our rights, protest , and we rights, banning protest, and we need to stand up and that's what my actions were . the says it has my actions were. the says it has been called nearly 2000 pothole incidents every day last month. the breakdown in service says it has— the breakdown in service says it has been— the breakdown in service says it has been caused— the breakdown in service says it has been caused by long periods of wet— has been caused by long periods of wet weather— has been caused by long periods of wet weather ._ has been caused by long periods of wet weather . it— has been caused by long periods of wet weather . it says the of wet weather. it says the damage — of wet weather. it says the damage would _ of wet weather. it says the damage would have left drivers with— damage would have left drivers with a— damage would have left drivers with a collective— damage would have left drivers with a collective ._ damage would have left drivers with a collective . bill of over with a collective. bill of over £160,000— with a collective. bill of over £160,000 for— with a collective. bill of over £160,000 for just— with a collective. bill of over £160,000 for just new tyres .

£160,000 for just new tyres. labour— £160,000 for just new tyres. labour says— £160,000 for just new tyres. labour says its— £160,000 for just new tyres. labour says its energy efficiency _ labour says its energy efficiency plans could see of £500— efficiency plans could see of £500 fa— efficiency plans could see of £500 for millions of households . nae— £500 for millions of households . hhe eehee— £500 for millions of households . the scheme would fund upgrades to . the scheme would fund upgrades he aeaha— . the scheme would fund upgrades re aaaha re— . the scheme would fund upgrades to around 19 million— . the scheme would fund upgrades to around 19 million properties herew— to around 19 million properties herew hara— to around 19 million properties below band c.— to around 19 million properties below band c. the party accused the government— below band c. the party accused the government of— below band c. the party accused the government of failing to address— the government of failing to address rhe— the government of failing to address the problem, but the earemmehr— address the problem, but the government says it has already hreerea— government says it has already invested £6.6— government says it has already invested £6.6 billion to boost efficiency— invested £6.6 billion to boost emrerehey .— invested £6.6 billion to boost efficiency . liberal democrats efficiency. liberal democrats sav— efficiency. liberal democrats say fly-tipping— efficiency. liberal democrats say fly—tipping has been effectively _ say fly—tipping has been effectively legalised under conservatives. _ effectively legalised under conservatives. the party's rareer— conservatives. the party's latest research - conservatives. the party's latest research shows just 1 in see— latest research shows just 1 in see eases— latest research shows just 1 in see re— latest research shows just 1 in 500 cases to led— latest research shows just 1 in 500 cases to led prosecution. they— 500 cases to led prosecution. rhey area— 500 cases to led prosecution. rhey area sav— 500 cases to led prosecution. they also say more than a mhheh— they also say more than a million fly—tipping incidents were recorded— million fly—tipping incidents were recorded between 2021 and zon— were recorded between 2021 and zon- h— were recorded between 2021 and 2022. in england— were recorded between 2021 and 2022. in england ,_ were recorded between 2021 and 2022. in england , but only less 2022. in england, but only less rhah— 2022. in england, but only less man 2000— 2022. in england, but only less than 2000 resulted in legal aerreh— than 2000 resulted in legal aerrah .— than 2000 resulted in legal aerrah . rhe— than 2000 resulted in legal action . the government called action. the government called the action. the government called rhe figure— action. the government called the figure inaccurate, saying it does— the figure inaccurate, saying it does her— the figure inaccurate, saying it does not take— the figure inaccurate, saying it does not take into account erooo— does not take into account 91,000 fixed— does not take into account 91,000 fixed penalty notices herea— 91,000 fixed penalty notices issued during— 91,000 fixed penalty notices issued during that time . a

issued during that time. a self—driving— issued during that time. a self—driving car system has been given— self—driving car system has been given a— self—driving car system has been gheh a green— self—driving car system has been given a green light— self—driving car system has been given a green light in the uk. rhe— given a green light in the uk. the bluecruise_ given a green light in the uk. the bluecruise self—driving technology— the bluecruise self—driving reehharagy re— the bluecruise self—driving technology is only available on ram-e— technology is only available on ram-e zom— technology is only available on ford's 2023 electric vehicle . ford's 2023 electric vehicle. mar-e— ford's 2023 electric vehicle. rhar-e rhe — ford's 2023 electric vehicle. that's the ford _ ford's 2023 electric vehicle. that's the ford mustang mach—e . that's the ford mustang mach—e. the that's the ford mustang mach—e. rhe ererem— that's the ford mustang mach—e. rhe eyerem re— that's the ford mustang mach—e. the system is equipped with five raarae— the system is equipped with five raarae aha— the system is equipped with five made and a— the system is equipped with five radars and a forward facing camera to track— radars and a forward facing camera to track the speed of emer— camera to track the speed of other vehicles— camera to track the speed of other vehicles and lane marking as other vehicles and lane marking ae rhe— other vehicles and lane marking as me he— other vehicles and lane marking as me he eh— other vehicles and lane marking as this is gb news.— other vehicles and lane marking as this is gb news. we'll bring you— as this is gb news. we'll bring you me— as this is gb news. we'll bring you as h— as this is gb news. we'll bring you more as it happens. nato. hack— you more as it happens. nato. haeh re— you more as it happens. nato. back to esther— you more as it happens. nato. back to esther and philip . back to esther and philip. |rhamh— back to esther and philip. | mark yea.— back to esther and philip. i thank you, rory. - back to esther and philip. . i thank you, rory. welcome back to esther and philip. thank you, rory. welcome back to friday esther to friday morning with esther and now we've and philip. now we've got cameron in the studio with cameron still in the studio with us because charles has arrived there at the 200th sovereign parade at royal military academy, sandhurst . and we can academy, sandhurst. and we can bnng academy, sandhurst. and we can bring you those pictures as they unfold, as it's happening now .

unfold, as it's happening now. cameron, can you tell us what's why— cameron, can you tell us what's why rhe— cameron, can you tell us what's why me he— cameron, can you tell us what's why his he ee— cameron, can you tell us what's why this is so important for charree— why this is so important for charree ra— why this is so important for charles to visit— why this is so important for charles to visit here? yeah wen,— charles to visit here? yeah wear, or— charles to visit here? yeah well, of course,- charles to visit here? yeah well, of course, this is the her— well, of course, this is the her arme— well, of course, this is the first time he's— well, of course, this is the first time he's visited since zors. — first time he's visited since zors. wher— first time he's visited since 2015. when he— first time he's visited since 2015. wt." first time he's visited since 2015. �*rw�*“rt“ 37” “rtrt; first time he's visited since 2015. “ “rtrt; 2015. when he was prince of wales, he represented the queen at the sovereign's parade. but of course, this is the first time he is doing so as the sovereign. it is the 200th royal military academy sandhurst's sovereign . he's expected sovereign parade. he's expected to present the new colours and the sovereign's banner. but in a tribute, i think fitting tribute to her late majesty queen elizabeth and the old colours elizabeth ii and the old colours belonging to her late majesty. they're to marched onto they're going to be marched onto the the cadets and the parade with the cadets and past the statue of . queen past the statue of. queen elizabeth ii as well, at which point a salute is expected to be given. so a fitting tribute to her majesty screams and the cheers of the expectant public. we can hear that's going on. but as soon as charles— we can hear that's going on. but as soon as charles is there, cameron, you'll— as soon as charles is there, cameron, you'll be back to talk us cameron, you'll be back to talk we rhraaah— cameron, you'll be back to talk us through exactly— cameron, you'll be back to talk us through exactly what's happening— us through exactly what's happening now ahead of his final day h— happening now ahead of his final day h herma— happening now ahead of his final day in ireland, the— happening now ahead of his final day in ireland, the us president has day in ireland, the us president hae eheheh— day in ireland, the us president hae ehaheh er— day in ireland, the us president has spoken of his— day in ireland, the us president has spoken of his pride in his rheh— has spoken of his pride in his rheh-eahhah- has spoken of his pride in hisi irish-support.the irish roots and support for the peace—

irish roots and support for the peace areeeee— irish roots and support for the peace process in— irish roots and support for the peace process in northern rreraha. — peace process in northern ireland. “g peace process in northern ireland. speaking to joint ireland. speaking to the joint irish parliament, biden also added the government added that the uk government should closer with should be working closer with ireland to ensure good relationships with northern ireland. we're joined now by chef— ireland. we're joined now by chef whip— ireland. we're joined now by chef whh ar— ireland. we're joined now by chief whip of the— : we're joined now by chief whip of the dup in the heme— chief whip of the dup in the house lcommons,- chief whip of the dup in the house commons, sammy wilson, house of commons, sammy wilson, mp house of commons, sammy wilson, wrlraer— house of commons, sammy wilson, wrlraer aha— house of commons, sammy wilson, mp.east and trim. _ house of commons, sammy wilson, mp east and trim. mp for east and trim. sammy, manh— mp for east and trim. sammy, rhamh yea— mp for east and trim. sammy, rhamh yea ea— mp for east and trim. sammy, thank you so much for joining thank you so much forjoining us this appreciate this morning. we do appreciate it. what made of the it. what have you made of the impact of joe biden's visit, particularly in northern ireland, ireland had no impact. other than to impart and fury at people— other than to impart and fury at heaare whe— other than to impart and fury at people who come— other than to impart and fury at people who come from the warmer— people who come from the unionist community. i don't i'm not unionist community. i don't i'm her een— unionist community. i don't i'm not even so sure— unionist community. i don't i'm not even so sure that since he ham-r— not even so sure that since he ham-r ger— not even so sure that since he area-r her he— not even so sure that since he didn't get the chance to walk arrear— didn't get the chance to walk ahear rhe— didn't get the chance to walk about the place— didn't get the chance to walk about the place and meet people mar— about the place and meet people rhar rheee— about the place and meet people that those from _ about the place and meet people that those from the _ about the place and meet people that those from the nationalist eemmahhy— that those from the nationalist community who— that those from the nationalist community who of course would weeemeh— community who of course would weeemeh hrm — community who of course would welcome him because he is very pro welcome him because he is very we rheh— welcome him because he is very pro irish republican. he has been— pro irish republican. he has been aphaeea— pro irish republican. he has been opposed to and indeed wherea— been opposed to and indeed rgharea many— been opposed to and indeed ignored many of— been opposed to and indeed ignored many of the views of amemere— ignored many of the views of unionists, especially over the werrhem— unionists, especially over the northern ireland— unionists, especially over the northern ireland protocol. but his northern ireland protocol. but he warhe— northern ireland protocol. but he hrrre er— northern ireland protocol. but his little or no— northern ireland protocol. but his little or no impact here because, sammy, we're going to

amerraharery— because, sammy, we're going to unfortunately have— because, sammy, we're going to unfortunately have to interrupt you here,— unfortunately have to interrupt you here, har— unfortunately have to interrupt you here, hm r— unfortunately have to interrupt you here, but i know you warren-r— you here, but i know you wouldn't mind- you here, but i know you wouldn't mind this because we're hrerrwhrhg— wouldn't mind this because we're hrerrwhrha yaw— wouldn't mind this because we're interrupting you for king charree— interrupting you for king charles because he's just arrived— charles because he's just arrived ar— charles because he's just arrived at santos. t. arrived at santos. but we'll come straight back to you. cameron, over to you . yes. these cameron, over to you. yes. these are live cameron, over to you. yes. these hwe hieraree— cameron, over to you. yes. these are live pictures from _ ,. yes. these are live pictures from sandhurst of are live pictures from sandhurst or me— are live pictures from sandhurst or me mar-eery— are live pictures from sandhurst of his majesty attending the her— of his majesty attending the first sovereign's— of his majesty attending the first sovereign's parade as the new sovereign. he will be areeehrhg— new sovereign. he will be presenting new colours and the eewererh-eg— presenting new colours and the sovereign's banner. the king is area— sovereign's banner. the king is area expeerea— sovereign's banner. the king is also expected to— sovereign's banner. the king is also expected to give an address aha— also expected to give an address and he— also expected to give an address and he wru— also expected to give an address and he will present— also expected to give an address and he will present the prize winner's awards,— and he will present the prize winner's awards, including the sword— winner's awards, including the sword of— winner's awards, including the sword of honour.— winner's awards, including the sword of honour. now the sword of homew— sword of honour. now the sword of honour re— sword of honour. now the sword of honour is this— sword of honour. now the sword of honour is this award of honour is this special award aha— of honour is this special award and he— of honour is this special award and it's awarded— of honour is this special award and it's awarded to the officer. caaere— and it's awarded to the officer. cadets considered— and it's awarded to the officer. cadets considered by the commandments to be the best out of commandments to be the best out or he— commandments to be the best out or me make.— commandments to be the best out of the intake. and— commandments to be the best out of the intake. and there are 171 emreer— of the intake. and there are 171 officer cadets— of the intake. and there are 171 officer cadets who _ of the intake. and there are 171 officer cadets who will be commissioned _ officer cadets who will be commissioned as army officers away.— commissioned as army officers raaay. rhe— commissioned as army officers today. the parade— commissioned as army officers today. the parade marks the comprehen— today. the parade marks the completion of— today. the parade marks the completion of 44 weeks of quite hrehee— completion of 44 weeks of quite hrehee rhe— completion of 44 weeks of quite intense live training. to be hemeerry— intense live training. to be perfectly honest, of those emreere— perfectly honest, of those officers, cadets- perfectly honest, of those officers, cadets and his majesty is officers, cadets and his majesty he game— officers, cadets and his majesty he going ra— officers, cadets and his majesty is going to inspect— officers, cadets and his majesty is going to inspect them on the parade— is going to inspect them on the parade ground— is going to inspect them on the parade ground and he'll be

hhwhrea— parade ground and he'll be hhwhrea re— parade ground and he'll be invited to inspect them. all rheee— invited to inspect them. all he who— invited to inspect them. all those who are— invited to inspect them. all those who are graduating. and ahea— those who are graduating. and ahee mere-e— those who are graduating. and also there's 26— those who are graduating. and also there's 26 officer cadets ham — also there's 26 officer cadets from he— also there's 26 officer cadets from 15 different— also there's 26 officer cadets from 15 different countries heeaaee er— from 15 different countries because, of course, the british army— because, of course, the british army rrahhhhg— because, of course, the british army training is— because, of course, the british army training is considered some of army training is considered some or he— army training is considered some or me heer— army training is considered some or me heer hm— army training is considered some of the best in the— army training is considered some of the best in the world. and emer— of the best in the world. and other armies— of the best in the world. and other armies want to essentially,- other armies want to essentially, basically have some of essentially, basically have some or her— essentially, basically have some of their troops— essentially, basically have some of their troops ,_ essentially, basically have some of their troops , sorry, officers of their troops, sorry, officers commissioned— of their troops, sorry, officers commissioned there . he's also commissioned there. he's also expeerea— commissioned there. he's also expeerea re— commissioned there. he's also expected to obviously meet them are— expected to obviously meet them aher rhe— expected to obviously meet them after the event— expected to obviously meet them after the event itself following the presentation— after the event itself following the presentation of colours. he-e— the presentation of colours. me going— the presentation of colours. he-e gahhg re— the presentation of colours. he's going to be giving the aaareee— he's going to be giving the aaareee ae— he's going to be giving the address, as i— he's going to be giving the address, as i said , and present address, as i said, and present rhe— address, as i said, and present am aware— address, as i said, and present the awards sword— address, as i said, and present the awards sword of honour and meer— the awards sword of honour and meer ar— the awards sword of honour and meet some of those prize winners to meet some of those prize winners he he — meet some of those prize winners he he aha— meet some of those prize winners to two. and then— meet some of those prize winners to two. and then upon the rheahare— to two. and then upon the departure, the— to two. and then upon the departure, the commandments will preeehr— departure, the commandments will preeehr rhe— departure, the commandments will present the-with— departure, the commandments will present the -with a _ departure, the commandments will present the with a gift at present the king with a gift at the present the king with a gift at me haee— present the king with a gift at me haee er— present the king with a gift at the base of old— present the king with a gift at the base of old college steps. he the base of old college steps. he eerrahmhy— the base of old college steps. he certainly hit— the base of old college steps. he certainly hit the— the base of old college steps. he certainly hit the ground running, hasn't he , cameron? he running, hasn't he, cameron? he seems packing in a lot of seems to be packing in a lot of these official visits at the moment. yeah, he certainly is. he— moment. yeah, he certainly is. he anhy— moment. yeah, he certainly is. me why a— moment. yeah, he certainly is. it's only a couple— moment. yeah, he certainly is. it's only a couple of- yeah, he certainly is. it's only a couple of weeks ago, waer— it's only a couple of weeks ago, waeh-rlrhar— it's only a couple of weeks ago, wasn't.that.was- it's only a couple of weeks ago, wasn't.that.was.his. wasn't it, that he was on his her— wasn't it, that he was on his her erare— wasn't it, that he was on his first state visit— wasn't it, that he was on his first state visit of- wasn't it, that he was on his first state visit of the new rehgh — first state visit of the new rehgh - her— first state visit of the new reign her majesty first state visit of the new reign-her majesty queen reign with her majesty the queen eaheeerr— reign with her majesty the queen consorts.germany_ reign with her majesty the queen consortslgermany ?_ reign with her majesty the queen consorts germany ? and i think consorts to germany? and i think on consorts to germany? and i think eh-whehe— consorts to germany? and i think eh-whehe-wae— consorts to germany? and i think on whole was considered on the whole that was considered a remarhahhe—

on the whole that was considered a remarkable success. i don't rhhhh— a remarkable success. i don't rhhhh mere— a remarkable success. i don't think there was— a remarkable success. i don't think there was one bad headline ham— think there was one bad headline ham mar— think there was one bad headline from that tour.— think there was one bad headline from that tour. and— think there was one bad headline from that tour. and it's this power— from that tour. and it's this power diplomacy in power of soft diplomacy in aerheh— power of soft diplomacy in aerhah rer— power of soft diplomacy in action for the— power of soft diplomacy in action for the entire national rear,— action for the entire national raw, or— action for the entire national tour, of course.— action for the entire national tour, of course. but the king is head— tour, of course. but the king is head or— tour, of course. but the king is head or he— tour, of course. but the king is head of the armed— tour, of course. but the king is head of the armed forces , and head of the armed forces, and he— head of the armed forces, and he he— head of the armed forces, and this is something— head of the armed forces, and this is something he has clearly grown— this is something he has clearly grewh weed— this is something he has clearly grawh weea re— this is something he has clearly grown used to since he as he was hrhhee— grown used to since he as he was hrhhee ar— grown used to since he as he was hrhhee er wahee— grown used to since he as he was hrhhee er wahee .— grown used to since he as he was prince of wales . but now it's prince of wales. but now it's a where— prince of wales. but now it's a whahe mew— prince of wales. but now it's a whole new meaning for him heeaaee— whole new meaning for him heeaaee he-e— whole new meaning for him because he's the king. m312; because he's the king. more eweem— because he's the king. more eweem ra— because he's the king. more eweem ha ha— because he's the king. more events to go to— because he's the king. more events to go to as- because he's the king. more events to go to as some of the other royals , namely andrew and other royals, namely andrew and harry, having stood away from some of these visits. yeah , his some of these visits. yeah, his workload certainly— some of these visits. yeah, his workload certainly in- , yeah, his workload certainly in increased when— workload certainly in increased when ham— workload certainly in increased when both the— workload certainly in increased when both the queen was rolling hack— when both the queen was rolling haeh whrh— when both the queen was rolling haeh whrh her— when both the queen was rolling back with her duties. then hrhhee— back with her duties. then prince andrew— back with her duties. then prince andrew left as a working emhe— prince andrew left as a working emhe ar— prince andrew left as a working member of the— prince andrew left as a working member of the royal family, as wehh— member of the royal family, as wehh ae— member of the royal family, as wehh ae harry— member of the royal family, as well as harry and— member of the royal family, as well as harry and meghan . so the well as harry and meghan. so the warhead— well as harry and meghan. so the workload certainly— well as harry and meghan. so the workload certainly increased for the workload certainly increased for me king— workload certainly increased for me hhhg aha— workload certainly increased for the king and perhaps the prince and hrhheeee— the king and perhaps the prince and princess of— the king and perhaps the prince and princess of wales as well. i rhhhh— and princess of wales as well. i rhhhh rhey— and princess of wales as well. i rhhhh rhey rhe— and princess of wales as well. i think they the king also has to rehy— think they the king also has to rehy ah— think they the king also has to rehy are he— think they the king also has to rely on his other— think they the king also has to rely on his other brother, hrhhee — rely on his other brother, prince edward.- rely on his other brother, prince edward. and of course , prince edward. and of course, rhey— prince edward. and of course, rhey have— prince edward. and of course, they have recently become the duke— they have recently become the duke aha— they have recently become the duke and duchess of edinburgh. hheee— duke and duchess of edinburgh. hheee awe,— duke and duchess of edinburgh. those two, the— duke and duchess of edinburgh. those two, the king will also , those two, the king will also, of those two, the king will also, ar he— those two, the king will also, of course, be there at present

at of course, be there at present ar rhe— of course, be there at present a me hreahhhg— of course, be there at present at the trooping the colour parade— at the trooping the colour haraae .— at the trooping the colour haraae . aha— at the trooping the colour parade . and that's expected to parade. and that's expected to happen— parade. and that's expected to happen hm— parade. and that's expected to happen hm rehe— parade. and that's expected to happen hm rwhe .— parade. and that's expected to happen in june . of course, the happen in june. of course, the eewerehgh— happen in june. of course, the eawerehgh hae— happen in june. of course, the sovereign has to _ happen in june. of course, the sovereign has to birthdays, aeeeh-r— sovereign has to birthdays, aeeeh-r hee— sovereign has to birthdays, doesn't he? one official, one aha— doesn't he? one official, one and he— doesn't he? one official, one and one actual— doesn't he? one official, one and one actual birthday. his aeraah— and one actual birthday. his actual birthdays— and one actual birthday. his actual birthdays in november. rhe— actual birthdays in november. hhe emhehah— actual birthdays in november. the official one— actual birthdays in november. the official one is in the summer , the- the official one is in the summer , the trooping the colour summer, the trooping the colour haraae. — summer, the trooping the colour parade. har— summer, the trooping the colour parade. but this— summer, the trooping the colour parade. but this is— summer, the trooping the colour parade. but this is something he has parade. but this is something he hae heme— parade. but this is something he has done before— parade. but this is something he has done before this sandhurst mhhhrary— has done before this sandhurst military sovereign's parade that is military sovereign's parade that he happening— military sovereign's parade that is happening today. but this is the is happening today. but this is me her— is happening today. but this is the first time— is happening today. but this is the first time he's doing it as king-— the first time he's doing it as king- sa— the first time he's doing it as king- so a— the first time he's doing it as king- so a very— the first time he's doing it as king. so a very special moment for hhm. — king. so a very special moment for hhm. aha— king. so a very special moment for him. and also— king. so a very special moment for him. and also the 171 emheer— for him. and also the 171 officer cadets- for him. and also the 171 officer cadets being commissioned today. officer cadets being _ commissioned today . for those commissioned today. for those hheremhmg— commissioned today. for those listening on on the radio, i was just impressed there that the to see the horse walk backwards is perfect, a perfect straight line. i must take a hell of a lot of practising and training the rest of us are looking at charles phillips looking at the horse because going to tell you he's always looking the he's always looking at the horses or another. horses in one way or another. what is doing is horses in one way or another. whais is doing is horses in one way or another. whais somethingoing is horses in one way or another. whais something that is horses in one way or another. whais something that this is this is something that this is a regular thing the monarch to regular thing for the monarch to attend, isn't it? this isn't this a this isn't this isn't just a this isn't a one off. this is something that he attends regularly. yes, absolutely. the last-

d yes, absolutely. the last time he whehrea— absolutely. the last time he visited december absolutely. the last time he- visited-december-and visited was december 2015. and mar— visited was december 2015. and rhar wae— visited was december 2015. and rhar re— visited was december 2015. and that was to represent her mar-eery— that was to represent her mar-eery-er- that was to represent her. majesty-of course, that was to represent her- majesty-of course, as majesty because of course, as her— majesty because of course, as her waheery— majesty because of course, as her war-eery gar— majesty because of course, as her majesty got older, was her majesty got older, she was ramme— her majesty got older, she was rolling-duties- her majesty got older, she was rolling-duties .- her majesty got older, she was rolling duties . but the rolling back her duties. but the queen— rolling back her duties. but the queen actually— rolling back her duties. but the queen actually was there when ham— queen actually was there when herh hrhhee— queen actually was there when both prince william and prince harry— both prince william and prince harry ham— both prince william and prince harry both passed out of sandhurst. _ harry both passed out of sandhurst. as- harry both passed out of sandhurst. as officers. do you mew— sandhurst. as officers. do you knew whar— sandhurst. as officers. do you know what i'm— sandhurst. as officers. do you know what i'm really feeling now ? know what i'm really feeling now e rm— know what i'm really feeling now e m reahhy— know what i'm really feeling now ? i'm really feeling— know what i'm really feeling now ? i'm really feeling king- ? i'm really feeling king charles's reign. it is like he's got his own son. i don't know , got his own son. i don't know, label he wants to put on this. we're seeing a lot more of i don't know whether it's stability. the armed forces as an oversight, a wise person. do you think do you think he's doing this to differentiate him from queen elizabeth ii? well, i think one of the big— h 7 well,| think one of the big worries rightrtntr“ t 7’ well, i think one of the big worries for when— think one of the big worries for when her— think one of the big worries for when her majesty— think one of the big worries for when her majesty the queen haeeea— when her majesty the queen haeeea away— when her majesty the queen passed away was just what kind of king— passed away was just what kind of king charles— passed away was just what kind of king charles would be and ahea— of king charles would be and ahee haw— of king charles would be and ahee how he— of king charles would be and also how he would be perceived by he— also how he would be perceived by me hwhhhe. — also how he would be perceived by the public. and— also how he would be perceived by the public. and i think if you— by the public. and i think if you remember— by the public. and i think if you remember those pictures of hhm— you remember those pictures of hhm-aawh— you remember those pictures of him down constitution him driving down constitution hhhh— him driving down constitution hhhh rewarde— him driving down constitution hill towards buckingham palace the hill towards buckingham palace rhe hay— hill towards buckingham palace rhe day are— hill towards buckingham palace the day after the— hill towards buckingham palace the day after the queen died, he got the day after the queen died, he

her ear— the day after the queen died, he gar ear-ear— the day after the queen died, he got out-car with— the day after the queen died, he got out car with the with got out the car with the with he— got out the car with the with hhe-camera- got out the car with the with the-consort out. - got out the car with the with the consort out. and the the queen consort out. and the erawae— the queen consort out. and the crowds were really— the queen consort out. and the crowds were really warm towards hhm —hewea— crowds were really warm towards him-loved him.- crowds were really warm towards him loved him. and i him and really loved him. and i rhhhh— him and really loved him. and i rhhhh ehe— him and really loved him. and i think since then,— him and really loved him. and i think since then, we have seen the think since then, we have seen me king— think since then, we have seen me king reahhy— think since then, we have seen the king really undertake his aarhee— the king really undertake his aarhee ,— the king really undertake his aarhee , very— the king really undertake his duties , very kind of king like duties, very kind of king like very— duties, very kind of king like very eawerehgh— duties, very kind of king like very sovereign, like there was a worry— very sovereign, like there was a worry mar— very sovereign, like there was a worry rhar he— very sovereign, like there was a worry that he perhaps would too be worry that he perhaps would too he rehhheah— worry that he perhaps would too be political, as— worry that he perhaps would too be political, as perhaps he has been— be political, as perhaps he has been criticised— be political, as perhaps he has been criticised when he was hrhhee— been criticised when he was hrhhee er— been criticised when he was prince of wales— been criticised when he was prince of wales that has not been— prince of wales that has not been rhe— prince of wales that has not been the case.— prince of wales that has not been the case. he is clearly rahhhg— been the case. he is clearly rahhhg hhe— been the case. he is clearly taking his royal— been the case. he is clearly taking his royal duties very eerheaehy. — taking his royal duties very seriously. he— taking his royal duties very seriously. he was the longest eerwhhg— seriously. he was the longest eewhhg hehr— seriously. he was the longest serving heir apparent. of hr— serving heir apparent. of course, it was— serving heir apparent. of course, it was 70 years that he mar— course, it was 70 years that he rhar he— course, it was 70 years that he rhar he wae— course, it was 70 years that he that he was the— course, it was 70 years that he that he was the heir apparent. aha— that he was the heir apparent. aha mhe— that he was the heir apparent. me he he— that he was the heir apparent. and this is exactly what he's doing— and this is exactly what he's doing haw— and this is exactly what he's doing now. we're— and this is exactly what he's doing now. we're seeing him playing— doing now. we're seeing him hhayhmg awr— doing now. we're seeing him playing out his_ doing now. we're seeing him playing out his duties as head of-md— playing out his duties as head of-armed forces- playing out his duties as head of armed forces just three of the armed forces just three weeke— of the armed forces just three weeks before _ of the armed forces just three weeks before his— of the armed forces just three weeks before his coronation. cameramwe-ry- weeks before his coronation. cameron,-very much.l cameron, thanks very much. we're going keep coming going to we'll keep coming back to happening at to see what's happening at sandhurst morning sandhurst as the morning unfolds. but we're going to head back sammy wilson, who we cut back to sammy wilson, who we cut off midstream. sammy, we apologise for cutting you off in yourin apologise for cutting you off in your in mid, mid, mid flow. apologise for cutting you off in your in mid, mid, mid flow . you your in mid, mid, mid flow. you were talking to us about what you made of joe biden's visit, which a fat lot for by which wasn't a fat lot for by

the sounds of it from when we when we left you. i just wondered, i mean joe biden wondered, sammy i mean joe biden came and he seemed to me dangled some money in front of the people of northern ireland for us investment into northern ireland on the assembly, getting back into to into full flow again . has that made any again. has that made any difference to the stance of the dup in order to go back in there to unlock some of that investment from the us ? from the investment from the us? from the us? well, first of all, philip, i us? well, first of all, philip, h aah-r— us? well, first of all, philip, h aah-r mhe— 7 well, first of all, philip, i don't mind playing second heare— i don't mind playing second rhaahe re— i don't mind playing second fiddle to the— i don't mind playing second fiddle to the king a i don't mind playing second fiddle to the king 5 .. rt fiddle to the king > in fact, h-m — fiddle to the king > in fact, h-m awre— fiddle to the king > in fact, i'm quite happy to do so. um i don't and i don't think that joe biden's visit has made any difference to the dynamics of politics in northern ireland. um as far as we are concerned, he is an outside ear who has interfered in a way which is outrageous and the affairs, the internal affairs of the united kingdom. don't forget that he was the one who put pressure on the government to sign the agreement with the eu , which agreement with the eu, which still leaves northern ireland

separated from the rest of the united kingdom. and i think that, if anything, his demands that, if anything, his demands that we get back to stormont and if we don't get things normalised again, there'll be no trade deal with the uk etcetera has probably reinforced our determination, not to give in to the outrageous interference in our affairs and indeed the impact of his visit here is that unionists will look very, very carefully at anything which he demands and which the government response is to because we see him as being pro—republican . him as being pro—republican. sammy, i just wondered, you know , rhe— sammy, i just wondered, you know ,rhe whhaeer— sammy, i just wondered, you know , the windsor framework has now been— , the windsor framework has now been agreed.— , the windsor framework has now been agreed. it's— , the windsor framework has now been agreed. it's been done and wherea— been agreed. it's been done and aaerea. h— been agreed. it's been done and dusted. i know— been agreed. it's been done and dusted. i know that you as a hehhrheah— dusted. i know that you as a hahhrheah harry— dusted. i know that you as a political party were wholly aphaeea— political party were wholly aaaaeea re— political party were wholly aaaaeea re hr,— political party were wholly opposed to it, but it is now here— opposed to it, but it is now here aha— opposed to it, but it is now there and agreed is there is mere— there and agreed is there is here a— there and agreed is there is there a route— there and agreed is there is there a route back for the dup hara— there a route back for the dup he he— there a route back for the dup into the northern— there a route back for the dup into the northern ireland aeeemhhy— into the northern ireland assembly and- into the northern ireland assembly and back into

powersharing- assembly and back into powersharing and getting it up and running— powersharing and getting it up and running again? or is your heyeerr— and running again? or is your heyeerrlhr— and running again? or is your heyearrlhr going— and running again? or is your boycott it going to carry on boycott of it going to carry on in boycott of it going to carry on hm hemerwhry— boycott of it going to carry on hm hemerwhry e— boycott of it going to carry on in perpetuity ? well i think in perpetuity? well i think mar,— in perpetuity? well i think rhar, hhhhhh— in perpetuity? well i think that, philip, it— in perpetuity? well i think that, philip, it didn't quite hear— that, philip, it didn't quite hear your— that, philip, it didn't quite hear your question. . that, philip, it didn't quite hear your question. t hear your question. it was hreahhmg— hear your question. it was breaking out a wee bit. but i think i know what you're asking . as far as we are concerned . and as far as we are concerned , the current arrangements will not get us into stormont not get us back into stormont because the current arrangements require us to our ministers to facilitate the implementation of foreign law in northern ireland. if we don't do that, then the ministers will be sanctioned. the court says that the courts have said that they will be and therefore there has to be an alternative arrangement, which we believe is available through mutual enforcement, something which the government at one time aspired, housed, and then ran away from because the eu refused to accept it. so there are alternatives. there is a way in which power sharing could be restored , but that requires that restored, but that requires that

not only the views of the eu are taken into consideration, but more importantly the views of the people who live in northern ireland are taken into consideration. sammy wilson, rhahh— consideration. sammy wilson, rhahh yea— consideration. sammy wilson, rhahh yea ee— consideration. sammy wilson, thank you so much— t : rtr“ sammy wilson, thank you so much joining us thank you so much forjoining us this thank you so much forjoining us mhe—yea- thank you so much forjoining us mhe—yea forl this morning and thank you for year— this morning and thank you for year hamme— this morning and thank you for your patience. while we broke off your patience. while we broke arr-yea— your patience. while we broke err-yea ra— your patience. while we broke err-yea he go— your patience. while we broke off-you to go .see i your patience. while we broke off you to go see the off from you to go and see the king— off from you to go and see the king arriving— off from you to go and see the king arriving at— off from you to go and see the king arriving at santos. we aphreehare— appreciate your time this morning-— appreciate your time this morning. was morning. thank you. that was a very— morning. thank you. that was a very definitive wasn't very definitive answer, wasn't it? as get from sammy it? as you always get from sammy whheah—eoo- wilson, to be fair. so 300 hhghhy— wilson, to be fair. so 300 highly classified us documents have— highly classified us documents have been— highly classified us documents have been leaked— highly classified us documents have been leaked from the rehrageh. — have been leaked from the pentagon. _oldl have been leaked from the. pentagon. _old us have been leaked from the- pentagon. _old us air pentagon. a 21 year old us air force officer has been arrested over the leak. the ministry of defence spokesperson said on twitter. the widely reported hear— twitter. the widely reported heah er— twitter. the widely reported leak of alleged— the widely reported leak of alleged classified us information— leak of alleged classified us information has— leak of alleged classified us information has demonstrated a rever— information has demonstrated a serious level of— information has demonstrated a serious level of inaccuracy . serious level of inaccuracy. heaaere— serious level of inaccuracy. readers should— serious level of inaccuracy. readers should be cautious about rahhhg— readers should be cautious about rahhhg ar— readers should be cautious about rahhhg ar race— readers should be cautious about taking at face value allegations mar— taking at face value allegations rhar have— taking at face value allegations that have the— taking at face value allegations that have the potential to ehreaa— that have the potential to spread disinformation . �*vw�*rt; ”iii; spread disinformation. we're immea— spread disinformation. we're iahmea mew— spread disinformation. we're iahmea hy— spread disinformation. we're joined now by eric- spread disinformation. we're joined now by eric ham, political analyst and former national adviser to us national security adviser to us senator bill nelson. first off, how how damaging are these leaks if they are genuine leaks ?

if they are genuine leaks? well, first of all, they're exhremehy— well, first of all, they're extremely damaging. the fact mar— extremely damaging. the fact rhar rhe— extremely damaging. the fact that the leak— extremely damaging. the fact that the leak actually occurred, it's that the leak actually occurred, hr-e eeh— that the leak actually occurred, it's even more— that the leak actually occurred, it's even more reprehensible. hhe— it's even more reprehensible. hhe faer— it's even more reprehensible. the fact that— it's even more reprehensible. the fact that now we know that here— the fact that now we know that here wae— the fact that now we know that there was this— the fact that now we know that there was this low— the fact that now we know that there was this low level 21 year old guardsman_ there was this low level 21 year old guardsman that actually heahea— old guardsman that actually heahea rhe— old guardsman that actually leaked the documents . not only leaked the documents. not only eaee— leaked the documents. not only he mhe— leaked the documents. not only does this reverberate around the ahehe— does this reverberate around the ghehe, har— does this reverberate around the ghehe, hm hw— does this reverberate around the globe, but now the united states is globe, but now the united states he hawhhg— globe, but now the united states he hawhha ra— globe, but now the united states is having to answer for not only why— is having to answer for not only why hr— is having to answer for not only why hr h.pp..ed,_ is having to answer for not only why it happened, but in fact, haw— why it happened, but in fact, haw hr— why it happened, but in fact, how it happened. and the fact mar— how it happened. and the fact rhar mhe— how it happened. and the fact rhar he he— how it happened. and the fact that this is the— how it happened. and the fact that this is the third massive hreaeh— that this is the third massive hreaeh mar— that this is the third massive breach that we— that this is the third massive breach that we have seen in the her— breach that we have seen in the he aeeaae— breach that we have seen in the last decade or— breach that we have seen in the last decade or so— breach that we have seen in the last decade or so speaks to just how— last decade or so speaks to just how vulnerable— last decade or so speaks to just how vulnerable us— last decade or so speaks to just how vulnerable us national eeearhry— how vulnerable us national security interests are, not only at home— security interests are, not only at home har— security interests are, not only at home but across the globe . at home but across the globe. now:— at home but across the globe. haw. aa— at home but across the globe. to. do you— at home but across the globe. now, do you think,— at home but across the globe. now, do you think, eric,- at home but across the globe. now, do you think, eric, that this is politically motivated? the speculation is that the leaks been done to try and embarrass president biden and to try and expose that things aren't going as well in ukraine as president biden was perhaps trying to convey. do you think there is a political motivation here? well i'm pretty sure there

are going to be questions as to why this individual did what he did. but i think the larger heee— did. but i think the larger he— did. but i think the larger issue is how— did. but i think the larger issue is how is— did. but i think the larger issue is how is it- r: r: but i think the larger issue is how is it that these hammerhe— issue is how is it that these aeeamehre .— issue is how is it that these documents , how- issue is how is it that these documents , how is it that such documents, how is it that such eehehrhwe— documents, how is it that such sensitive and _ documents, how is it that such sensitive and highly classified hmarmarhah— sensitive and highly classified information is— sensitive and highly classified information is in— sensitive and highly classified information is in the hands of someone so low— information is in the hands of someone so low on the totem pole 7 someone so low on the totem pole e har— someone so low on the totem pole e hm me— someone so low on the totem pole ? but more importantly, why are there— ? but more importantly, why are there har— ? but more importantly, why are there not more— ? but more importantly, why are there not more measures put in trace— there not more measures put in the re— there not more measures put in the re eheare— there not more measures put in place to ensure that this type of place to ensure that this type or breach— place to ensure that this type of breach doesn't— place to ensure that this type of breach doesn't happen? in faer— of breach doesn't happen? in raer, whar— of breach doesn't happen? in fact, what we— of breach doesn't happen? in fact, what we continue to see is mhe— fact, what we continue to see is the he— fact, what we continue to see is the he he— fact, what we continue to see is this is the third— fact, what we continue to see is this is the third such vulnerability that has occurred aha— vulnerability that has occurred and whar— vulnerability that has occurred and whar we— vulnerability that has occurred and what we continue to see is mar— and what we continue to see is that there— and what we continue to see is that there isn't— and what we continue to see is that there isn't an— and what we continue to see is that there isn't an effective har— that there isn't an effective measure put in— that there isn't an effective measure put in place to ensure mar— measure put in place to ensure that mhe— measure put in place to ensure that this doesn't— measure put in place to ensure that this doesn't happen. and ahea— that this doesn't happen. and ahee whar— that this doesn't happen. and also what we're— that this doesn't happen. and also what we're seeing is this is also what we're seeing is this he her— also what we're seeing is this he met anhy— also what we're seeing is this is not only causing great consternation,- is not only causing great consternation, particularly with rhehhg— consternation, particularly with rising tensions— consternation, particularly with rising tensions with us foes, har— rising tensions with us foes, hm ahea— rising tensions with us foes, hm ahee hr-e— rising tensions with us foes, but also it's causing tremendous hrahheme— but also it's causing tremendous hrahheme whrh— but also it's causing tremendous problems with us— but also it's causing tremendous problems with us allies as well . cam— problems with us allies as well . can h— problems with us allies as well . can h hear— problems with us allies as well . can i look a— problems with us allies as well . can i look a little- problems with us allies as well . can i look a little bit- problems with us allies as well . can i look a little bit more into this 20, 21 year old? you know anything about him, about his motivation , about why he's his motivation, about why he's doing the job he's doing? can

you tell us a little bit more about him? sure i mean, he's only about him? sure i mean, he's my a— about him? sure i mean, he's my a 2h— about him? sure i mean, he's my a er year— about him? sure i mean, he's only a 21 year old— ,. 7 ”hit; i mean, he's only a 21 year old guardsman. aha— only a 21 year old guardsman. aha er— only a 21 year old guardsman. and of course,— only a 21 year old guardsman. and of course, based on the information— and of course, based on the information that— and of course, based on the information that we have heard hem— information that we have heard from ar— information that we have heard from some of his— information that we have heard from some of his former ehaeemaeer— from some of his former classmates, there was great rrehhaarhah— classmates, there was great trepidation written about him in herme— trepidation written about him in rerme er— trepidation written about him in rerme or he— trepidation written about him in terms of his his— trepidation written about him in terms of his his level of mental erahhhhry— terms of his his level of mental erahhhhry .— terms of his his level of mental erahhhhry . h— terms of his his level of mental stability . in fact,— terms of his his level of mental stability . in fact, we do know stability. in fact, we do know mar— stability. in fact, we do know that he— stability. in fact, we do know that he seemed— stability. in fact, we do know that he seemed to have a fascination— that he seemed to have a fascination with guns and with the fascination with guns and with me mhhhrary— fascination with guns and with me mhhhrary .— fascination with guns and with the military , which certainly the military, which certainly heee— the military, which certainly heee har— the military, which certainly does not speak— the military, which certainly does not speak to him, actually reheaeea— does not speak to him, actually released such— does not speak to him, actually released such sensitive and ehaeehrhea— released such sensitive and classified information about the uhhrea— classified information about the united states. _ classified information about the united states. but the fact that he aha,— united states. but the fact that he that or— united states. but the fact that he did, of course,— united states. but the fact that he did, of course, makes it even more concerning how such an hhahwhaaah— more concerning how such an individual not— more concerning how such an individual not only was able to ehhher— individual not only was able to ehhher hh— individual not only was able to ehhher hm rhe— individual not only was able to enlist in the military, but but how— enlist in the military, but but how he— enlist in the military, but but how he wae— enlist in the military, but but how he was able— enlist in the military, but but how he was able to actually get access to these— how he was able to actually get access to these documents. and aaahh— access to these documents. and agahh whar— access to these documents. and agahm, whar we— access to these documents. and again, what we do— access to these documents. and again, what we do know is that mhe— again, what we do know is that the he— again, what we do know is that the he pra— again, what we do know is that this is pro forma._ again, what we do know is that this is proforma. this isthe meaae— this is proforma. this isthe modus operandi_ this is proforma. this isthe modus operandi for the united sharee— modus operandi for the united sharee aha— modus operandi for the united states and particularly the mhhhhary— states and particularly the military, that— states and particularly the military, that you would have someone who— military, that you would have someone who is— military, that you would have someone who is so low level aeraahhy— someone who is so low level actually having _ someone who is so low level actually having access to these

document— actually having access to these document e. — actually having access to these document s. and— actually having access to these document s. and i— actually having access to these document s. and i think it eheahe— document s. and i think it eaeahe re— document s. and i think it speaks to just— document s. and i think it speaks to just the level, the massive level— speaks to just the level, the massive level of— speaks to just the level, the massive level of vulnerabilities mar— massive level of vulnerabilities that — massive level of vulnerabilities that we're seeing _ massive level of vulnerabilities that we're seeing at all levels, harrhewharhy— that we're seeing at all levels, particularly when— that we're seeing at all levels, particularly when it relates to er— particularly when it relates to or he— particularly when it relates to some of the most classified and meet— some of the most classified and most sensitive— some of the most classified and most sensitive information . in most sensitive information. in faer— most sensitive information. in raer, ae— most sensitive information. in raer, ae a— most sensitive information. in fact, as a former— most sensitive information. in fact, as a former national eeearhry— fact, as a former national security advisor, i certainly wearer-r— security advisor, i certainly wouldn't have— security advisor, i certainly wouldn't have been able to have he he— wouldn't have been able to have access to the documents in the way— access to the documents in the way mar— access to the documents in the way that mhe— access to the documents in the way that this individual did. aha— way that this individual did. aha we— way that this individual did. aha we eee— way that this individual did. and we see just— way that this individual did. and we see just how we see just how— and we see just how we see just how far— and we see just how we see just how far reaching— and we see just how we see just how far reaching it— and we see just how we see just how far reaching it was. and it hae— how far reaching it was. and it hae heem— how far reaching it was. and it has been with— how far reaching it was. and it has been with him having access to has been with him having access re rheee— has been with him having access to these documents— has been with him having access to these documents and how many heathe— to these documents and how many heaahe hw— to these documents and how many heaahe have— to these documents and how many people now have seen so much of the classified _ people now have seen so much of the classified information , the classified information, whheh— the classified information, which also. _ the classified information, which also. thank you very much haeea— which also. thank you very much hhaeea rar— which also. thank you very much indeed for joining— which also. thank you very much indeed forjoining us today. indeed for joining us today. hhamh— indeed for joining us today. hhahh yea. — indeed for joining us today. fascinating. that thank you. fascinating. that waer— thank you. fascinating. that waer hr. — thank you. fascinating. that wasn't it. and— thank you. fascinating. that wasn't it. and i— thank you. fascinating. that wasn't it. and i think- thank you. fascinating. that wasn't it. and i think that is the key question. how did a 21 year old low down really in the in the measure of things have so much information. but look, plenty more still to come on friday morning with esther and phil new research released today suggests that high childcare costs are preventing mothers from returning to work. well, we'll be speaking to a mother

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us welcome back to friday morning with esther and phil. it's 1126. lots of news coming- with esther and phil. it's 1126. lots of news coming in- rt“r: . it's1126. lots of news coming in about ahherehr— lots of news coming in about different issues— lots of news coming in about different issues . _ lots of news coming in about different issues. i�*~irt;.r .. lots of news coming in about different issues . i�*irttr .. different issues. melvin says, come on, harry, speak to your father . and ruby says, i wonder father. and ruby says, i wonder if prince harry will have to bow to queen camilla good question. lots of comments about the tumor— lots of comments about the junior doctor— lots of comments about the junior doctor strike as well. chaaaha— junior doctor strike as well. claudia says,— junior doctor strike as well. claudia says, i— junior doctor strike as well. claudia says, i no longer euphem— claudia says, i no longer support striking doctors, which is support striking doctors, which he-a— support striking doctors, which he-a ehame— support striking doctors, which he-a ehame ae— support striking doctors, which is-a shame as i- support striking doctors, which is a shame as i used to is such a shame as i used to have— is such a shame as i used to have-admiration- is such a shame as i used to have admiration for them, have huge admiration for them, eeaeehahhy— have huge admiration for them, eeaeehahhy-rhe- have huge admiration for them, especially the pandemic. especially during the pandemic. but especially during the pandemic. huh—.— especially during the pandemic. t.r_, h— but angela says, i wholeheartedly support the homere— wholeheartedly support the doctors strike.— wholeheartedly support the doctors strike. they are edging rewarde— doctors strike. they are edging rewarae rear— doctors strike. they are edging towards real change. so mixed wewe— towards real change. so mixed ahear— towards real change. so mixed views about that— towards real change. so mixed views about that particular har— views about that particular issue, but keep— views about that particular issue, but keep those views eamhhg— issue, but keep those views eamhhg hh— issue, but keep those views eamhmg hm hew— issue, but keep those views coming in now. 2 in 5 mothers sav— coming in now. 2 in 5 mothers eay rhe— coming in now. 2 in 5 mothers eay rhe eeer— coming in now. 2 in 5 mothers

say the cost of— coming in now. 2 in 5 mothers say the cost of childcare is prewehrhhg— say the cost of childcare is preventing them from returning to preventing them from returning re warh— preventing them from returning re warh .— preventing them from returning re warh . h— preventing them from returning to work. in new— preventing them from returning to work . in new research that's to work. in new research that's ear— to work. in new research that's come out today— to work. in new research that's come out today ,_ to work. in new research that's come out today , the same come out today, the same preparer— come out today, the same proportion said- come out today, the same proportion said they believe mar— proportion said they believei that—additional that even with the additional euphem— that even with the additional support announced by the chancellor— support announced by the chancellor budget, chancellor in the budget, ehhhaeare— chancellor in the budget, childcare remains too expensive. hhe— childcare remains too expensive. hhe repara— childcare remains too expensive. hhe reaarr aaae— childcare remains too expensive. the report adds that a third of werhhhg— the report adds that a third of working mothers— the report adds that a third of working mothers are currently ehehahha— working mothers are currently ehehahha-rhah- working mothers are currently spending than 30% of their spending more than 30% of their wahee— spending more than 30% of their wages-childcare— spending more than 30% of their wages-childcare . - spending more than 30% of their wages childcare . �*rw�*rt;.. spending more than 30% of their wages childcare. erect. ”it; wages on childcare. well, we're now joined by emily button lynam, a mother of two, and korea and life coach, and neil leach, ceo of the early years alliance . thank you forjoining alliance. thank you for joining us. so we've got this new report out out here and it's got to in five mums think it's you know it's still too expensive it's stopping them going out to work but about 2 in 5 say it is helpful and 30% of their wages on average are being spent. so what i'm just wondering there, neil, how much should you think they should be spending of their wages? because obviously they're keeping 70. they're paying 30% big subsidy by the government. how much should mothers be

looking to pay for their childcare ? well, i think we childcare? well, i think we eheaha— childcare? well, i think we eheaha he— rt.“ r:rt.ttrt;7’ well, i think we should be comparing ourselves to whar— should be comparing ourselves to whar ether— should be comparing ourselves to what other countries do. and if you— what other countries do. and if you hear— what other countries do. and if you hook re— what other countries do. and if you look to others,— what other countries do. and if you look to others, particularly scandinavian— you look to others, particularly scandinavian countries, frank , scandinavian countries, frank, they— scandinavian countries, frank, they pay— scandinavian countries, frank, they pay very— scandinavian countries, frank, they pay very, very little . they pay very, very little. hegrehahhy— they pay very, very little. regrettably, one of the tables mar— regrettably, one of the tables that we— regrettably, one of the tables that we reh— regrettably, one of the tables that we her he— regrettably, one of the tables that we top is where a mother's as that we top is where a mother's ae a percentage— that we top is where a mother's as a percentage of— that we top is where a mother's as a percentage of her salary is ehehr— as a percentage of her salary is ehehr ah— as a percentage of her salary is eaehr ah earhy— as a percentage of her salary is spent on early years care and educator— spent on early years care and educator he— spent on early years care and education is right— spent on early years care and education is right at the top when— education is right at the top when hr— education is right at the top when it comes— education is right at the top when it comes to investment . i when it comes to investment. i have— when it comes to investment. i have re— when it comes to investment. i have re eay— when it comes to investment. i have to say that— when it comes to investment. i have to say that we are right at the have to say that we are right at me harrem. — have to say that we are right at the bottom. so— have to say that we are right at the bottom. so if— have to say that we are right at the bottom. so if you look at scandinavian— the bottom. so if you look at scandinavian countries , some of scandinavian countries, some of them — scandinavian countries, some of them nam— scandinavian countries, some of them nah-eha— scandinavian countries, some of them off £75 month as them cap off at £75 a month as earr— them cap off at £75 a month as maximum sort of— them cap off at £75 a month as maximum sort of fees that are hayahhe— maximum sort of fees that are hayahhe .— maximum sort of fees that are hayahhe . h— maximum sort of fees that are payable . i think— maximum sort of fees that are payable . i think that is an payable. 1 think that is an eawhrahhe— payable. i think that is an equitable place for parents to be equitable place for parents to hee-hhe— equitable place for parents to he-hr-e har- equitable place for parents to be-it's not just- equitable place for parents to be it's not just about, be because it's not just about, aare— be because it's not just about, rhreleay— be because it's not just about, aare|eay gerrhhg— be because it's not just about, dare say, getting mums back dare i say, getting mums back hara— dare i say, getting mums back he he— dare i say, getting mums back into the working— dare i say, getting mums back into the working environment , into the working environment, but into the working environment, hm mhe— into the working environment, hm the he— into the working environment, but this is about— into the working environment, but this is about educating , but this is about educating, earhhg— but this is about educating, earhhg rar— but this is about educating, caring for young children who whhh— caring for young children who will generate— caring for young children who will generate more income farther— will generate more income further down _ will generate more income further down the line. and so yeah— further down the line. and so yeah .— further down the line. and so yeah , my— further down the line. and so yeah , my position would be very yeah, my position would be very thre— yeah, my position would be very hhrrhe, rrahhhy— yeah, my position would be very little, frankly. _ yeah, my position would be very little, frankly . and— yeah, my position would be very little, frankly , . 3 3 yeah, my position would be very little, frankly . ' “r: tar t“ little, frankly. and emily, can you tell us about your situation and what the cost of childcare

has meant for you? yeah yes, absolutely. so i was 7 /rt;t“ yes, absolutely. so i was previous to hawhhg— absolutely. so i was previous to having children,— absolutely. so i was previous to having children, so— absolutely. so i was previous to having children, so i've got a three— having children, so i've got a three aha— having children, so i've got a three are a— having children, so i've got a three and a one— having children, so i've got a three and a one year old boy and i three and a one year old boy and h wae— three and a one year old boy and h a— three and a one year old boy and h a rech— three and a one year old boy and i was a tech director— three and a one year old boy and i was a tech director and kind of i was a tech director and kind or warhea— i was a tech director and kind or worked my— i was a tech director and kind of worked my way up in financial eewheee— of worked my way up in financial eewheee aha— of worked my way up in financial eewheee and h— of worked my way up in financial services and i retrained and i herr— services and i retrained and i heh mar— services and i retrained and i heh rhar rah— services and i retrained and i left that job whilst i was on maremhry— left that job whilst i was on maternity leave— left that job whilst i was on maternity leave with my eldest aha— maternity leave with my eldest son and one of— maternity leave with my eldest son and one of the huge contributor— son and one of the huge contributor factors to that was ehhhaeare— contributor factors to that was childcare care _ contributor factors to that was childcare care costs. and i rhhhh— childcare care costs. and i rhhhh hr-e— childcare care costs. and i think it's impacting us as marhere— think it's impacting us as mothers on— think it's impacting us as mothers on an- think it's impacting us as mothers on an individual basis . mothers on an individual basis. but mothers on an individual basis. hm h— mothers on an individual basis. hm h rhhhh— mothers on an individual basis. but i think the— mothers on an individual basis. but i think the more worrying hmhaer— but i think the more worrying hmhaer he— but i think the more worrying hmhaer he eh— but i think the more worrying impact is on broader society. vea— impact is on broader society. veu mew,— impact is on broader society. veu knew we— impact is on broader society. you know, we know that we've got a raw— you know, we know that we've got a rare gender— you know, we know that we've got arew gender hay— you know, we know that we've got a 15% gender pay gap and we know that he— a 15% gender pay gap and we know that he eer— a 15% gender pay gap and we know that he eer ra— a 15% gender pay gap and we know that it's set to take— a 15% gender pay gap and we know that it's set to take us 134 yeare— that it's set to take us 134 yeare re— that it's set to take us 134 years to reach— that it's set to take us 134 years to reach gender parity . years to reach gender parity. aha— years to reach gender parity. aha h— years to reach gender parity. aha h rhhhh— years to reach gender parity. and i think the— years to reach gender parity. and i think the rising childcare eaere— and i think the rising childcare eaere he— and i think the rising childcare eaere he going— and i think the rising childcare costs is going to— and i think the rising childcare costs is going to create huge gaps— costs is going to create huge gape hh— costs is going to create huge gape hm eaehery— costs is going to create huge gaps in society and also have huge— gaps in society and also have huge hmhaere— gaps in society and also have huge impacts across the board . huge impacts across the board. i huge impacts across the board. h mean— huge impacts across the board. h hmhhy— huge impacts across the board. i mean, emily, what— huge impacts across the board. i mean, emily, what would- huge impacts across the board. i mean, emily, what would you say to people who say, well, look, you know, if you can't afford to have children, then you shouldn't children you shouldn't have children and you shouldn't have children and you who you shouldn't expect people who don't subsidise

don't have children to subsidise those through their those who do through their taxes. what would you say to people who might have that opinion ? i think as working opinion? i think as working parents, we generate so much money for the economy and we've got to think about the impact from a gdp perspective of taxable childcare is very low and the amount that people are paying and the amount that people are paying on top of that is adding to the economy . and i think as a to the economy. and i think as a eaehehy— to the economy. and i think as a eaehery, we— to the economy. and i think as a society, we need— to the economy. and i think as a society, we need to— to the economy. and i think as a society, we need to start- society, we need to start wahahhg— society, we need to start valuing caring- society, we need to start valuing caring and contribute mar— valuing caring and contribute rhar ae— valuing caring and contribute rhar ae harr— valuing caring and contribute rhar ae ham or— valuing caring and contribute that as part of gdp . neil, what that as part of gdp. neil, what what-e— that as part of gdp. neil, what whar-e year— that as part of gdp. neil, what what's your view— that as part of gdp. neil, what what's your view about that? i remar— what's your view about that? i mean, esther did— what's your view about that? i mean, esther did say- what's your view about that? i mean, esther did say at- what's your view about that? i mean, esther did say at the start , you know, what, what start, you know, what, what level should be paid for by the state? what level should be paid for by the parent. that's always going to be a difficult balance for the, for any government to find the balance as to how find the right balance as to how much it should each should pay. do you not have any sympathy at all people who say, well, all for people who say, well, look, can't look, you know, if you can't afford children, don't afford to have children, don't have well, it's an have them? well, it's an hhrereerhha— 7 well, it's an interesting question, phil, but the interesting question, phil, but me reahhry— interesting question, phil, but me reahhry he— interesting question, phil, but the reality is we— interesting question, phil, but the reality is we never ask that aaeerheh— the reality is we never ask that

aweerhah er— the reality is we never ask that aweerhah er a— the reality is we never ask that question of a child that walks through— question of a child that walks though he— question of a child that walks through the school gate somehow wela— through the school gate somehow wela hahaharhah— through the school gate somehow we a population wake up and we as a population wake up and we as a population wake up and we-rhar— we as a population wake up and we-rhar-rahh- we as a population wake up and we-that-fail to- we realise that if we fail to get— we realise that if we fail to her hr— we realise that if we fail to get hr rhahr— we realise that if we fail to get it right for— we realise that if we fail to get it right for young children, haeheahhy— get it right for young children, basically-cost- basically they will cost us a ramme— basically they will cost us a fortune further— basically they will cost us a fortune further down the line. i rheee— fortune further down the line. i mean, these are— fortune further down the line. i mean, these are these are ehhhareh— mean, these are these are children contribute people children that contribute people are children that contribute people hhwhhg— children that contribute people are living longer.— children that contribute people are living longer. we have a hehehah— are living longer. we have a hehehah erhehe— are living longer. we have a pension crisis coming our way. so pension crisis coming our way. so yea— pension crisis coming our way. so yea mew,— pension crisis coming our way. so yea mew, my— pension crisis coming our way. so you know, my argument is rhey-re— so you know, my argument is rhey-re harr— so you know, my argument is rhey-re ham or— so you know, my argument is they're part of society . sorry, they're part of society. sorry, herher. — they're part of society. sorry, herher. we.— they're part of society. sorry, esther. no, no,— they're part of society. sorry, esther. no, no, no.- they're part of society. sorry, esther. \rt:r g esther. no, no, no. so i guess this is a big question, too , is this is a big question, too, is how early would you have then children going to school? would would you say it's not about childcare costs then really the school should be opening up earlier? and then how young would you have children going into school ? well, i dropped the into school? well, i dropped the were— into school? well, i dropped the were eeheah— into school? well, i dropped the were eehaah .— into school? well, i dropped the word school . this— into school? well, i dropped the word school . this is— t7 well, i dropped the word school . this is about word school. this is about eaaearhhg— word school. this is about educating young children . and educating young children. and whar— educating young children. and whar h— educating young children. and what i wouldn't— educating young children. and what i wouldn't want people to rhhhh— what i wouldn't want people to rhhhh he— what i wouldn't want people to rhhhh he mar— what i wouldn't want people to think is that the— what i wouldn't want people to think is that the way in which a we— think is that the way in which a we year— think is that the way in which a two year aha,— think is that the way in which a two year aha, a— think is that the way in which a two year old, a three year old or a rear— two year old, a three year old or a rear year— two year old, a three year old or a four year old— two year old, a three year old or a four year old basically hewehahe— or a four year old basically hewehehe he— or a four year old basically develops is exactly the same as area— develops is exactly the same as areh year— develops is exactly the same as a here year aha. — develops is exactly the same as a ten year old. the— develops is exactly the same as a ten year old. the thought of young— a ten year old. the thought of young children— a ten year old. the thought of young children sitting at desks, heamhhg— young children sitting at desks, heamhhglrare— young children sitting at desks, learning rote horrifies me, learning by rote horrifies me, rrahhhy— learning by rote horrifies me, frankly-think- learning by rote horrifies me,

frankly-thinklis- frankly. so i think it is a ahherehr— frankly. so i think it is a different set— frankly. so i think it is a different set of circumstances. har— different set of circumstances. hm h— different set of circumstances. hm h ahee — different set of circumstances. but i also think— different set of circumstances. but i also think that we should do me— but i also think that we should he re— but i also think that we should do more to support parents. we eheaha— do more to support parents. we eheaha aa— do more to support parents. we should do more— do more to support parents. we should do more in— do more to support parents. we should do more in the earliest yeare— should do more in the earliest yeare rer— should do more in the earliest years. for those— should do more in the earliest years. for those who years. for those parents who perhahe— years. for those parents who perhahe warr— years. for those parents who perhaps want to _ years. for those parents who perhaps want to spend a little bit perhaps want to spend a little hhr me— perhaps want to spend a little bit more interacting , bit more time interacting, hewehahhha— bit more time interacting, developing relationships with her— developing relationships with their children,— developing relationships with their children, doing right their children, doing the right mhe— their children, doing the right that .— their children, doing the right that . hwe— their children, doing the right thing . i've spoken enough thing. i've spoken to enough harehre— thing. i've spoken to enough parents-frankly- thing. i've spoken to enough parents .frankly ,- thing. i've spoken to enough parents frankly , have gone thing. i've spoken to enough parent after, frankly , have gone thing. i've spoken to enough parentafter, youtkly , have gone thing. i've spoken to enough parent after, you knowhave gone thing. i've spoken to enough parent after, you know ,ave gone thing. i've spoken to enough parent after, you know , the gone home after, you know, the working— home after, you know, the working ahh— home after, you know, the working all day long, spent an hear— working all day long, spent an hour whrh— working all day long, spent an hour with their— working all day long, spent an hour with their child feeling very— hour with their child feeling very awhhy— hour with their child feeling very guilty, giving them more eweeer— very guilty, giving them more eweeer aha— very guilty, giving them more sweets and more— very guilty, giving them more sweets and more toys because they— sweets and more toys because they aah-r— sweets and more toys because they don't have— sweets and more toys because they don't have any time with rhem. — they don't have any time with rhem. orher— they don't have any time with them. other countries provide if i them. other countries provide if i 90— them. other countries provide if r 90 re— them. other countries provide if r to re euphem— them. other countries provide if i go to support emily because we haven-r— i go to support emily because we haweh-r gar— i go to support emily because we haweh-r gar ree— i go to support emily because we haven't got too much time left now— haven't got too much time left hmhhy— haven't got too much time left hmhhy, h— haven't got too much time left now, emily, i know you've given up now, emily, i know you've given up a— now, emily, i know you've given up a ham— now, emily, i know you've given up a high powered— now, emily, i know you've given up a high powered job as it ha— up a high powered job as it he yaw— up a high powered job as it were. do you feel- up a high powered job as it were. thr “.rgrt; were. do you feel huge gratification, though? do you think that being a mom is the most important thing or the most important job you will be doing ? yeah, absolutely. i love being amam aha— ? yeah, absolutely. i love being amam and h— 7’ yeah, absolutely. i love being a mum and i wouldn't take that hack— a mum and i wouldn't take that hack for— a mum and i wouldn't take that back for anything. _ a mum and i wouldn't take that back for anything. and i think the challenge— back for anything. and i think the challenge that women face is when— the challenge that women face is when they— the challenge that women face is when they become— the challenge that women face is when they become mothers, their amhhrheh— when they become mothers, their ambition doesn't— when they become mothers, their ambition doesn't change, but her— ambition doesn't change, but

their priorities— ambition doesn't change, but their priorities do. and that's why— their priorities do. and that's why you— their priorities do. and that's why you reha— their priorities do. and that's why you tend to— their priorities do. and that's why you tend to see women heawhhg— why you tend to see women leaving workforce or going leaving the workforce or going for something— leaving the workforce or going for something different because rhexhhhe— for something different because flexible motty_ for something different because flexible motty have flexible motty we don't have mar— flexible motty we don't have that h— flexible motty we don't have that hh-eerah— flexible motty we don't have that in-setup of- flexible motty we don't have that in setup of many that in the setup of many eamahhhee— that in the setup of many companies that we have today , companies that we have today, aha— companies that we have today, and h— companies that we have today, and h aah-r— companies that we have today, and i don't think— companies that we have today, and i don't think you should have— and i don't think you should have re— and i don't think you should have to choose— and i don't think you should have to choose between your career and your.— have to choose between your career and your. is it much career and your. is it as much arrear— career and your. is it as much about emerheh— career and your. is it as much about emotion as— career and your. is it as much about emotion as it is about the eeer— about emotion as it is about the eeer e — about emotion as it is about the eeer e h— about emotion as it is about the eaere hrhhmh— about emotion as it is about the cost? i think it— about emotion as it is about the cost? i think it is.— about emotion as it is about the cost? i think it is. i- about emotion as it is about the cost? l ithink it cost? i think it is. i think it is. cost? i think it is. i think it he. hr— cost? i think it is. i think it is. it definitely— cost? i think it is. i think it is. it definitely is.- cost? l ithink it is. it definitely is. both hhahh— is. it definitely is. both hhahh yaw— is. it definitely is. both thank you both- is. it definitely is. both thank you both indeed, very much for joining us this morning. forjoining us this morning. now, plenty more still to come on friday morning with esther and phil, including the latest news on the entertainment and showbiz world. stay with . us showbiz world. stay with. us good morning. it's 1133. showbiz world. stay with. us good morning. it's1133. i'm hay— good morning. it's1133. i'm hary smhrh— good morning. it's1133. i'm hary smhrh hh— good morning. it's1133. i'm rory smith in the gb newsroom, the rory smith in the gb newsroom, rhe heyah— rory smith in the gb newsroom, the royal college— rory smith in the gb newsroom, the royal college of nursing is set the royal college of nursing is eer re— the royal college of nursing is set to announce— the royal college of nursing is set to announce the results of a hater— set to announce the results of a hahher ah— set to announce the results of a hahher are he— set to announce the results of a ballot on the government's hareer— ballot on the government's hareer hay— ballot on the government's latest pay offer. _ ballot on the government's latest pay offer. nurses and emer— latest pay offer. nurses and other health— latest pay offer. nurses and other health workers have been warhe— other health workers have been what ever— other health workers have been what a— other health workers have been voting over a 5%_ other health workers have been voting over a 5% pay rise for mhe— voting over a 5% pay rise for the year— voting over a 5% pay rise for the year aha— voting over a 5% pay rise for this year and a— voting over a 5% pay rise for this year and a cash payment for

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welcome back to friday morning with - welcome back to friday morning whrh herher— . welcome back to friday morning whrh herher aha— - welcome back to friday morning with esther and phil.— . welcome back to friday morning with esther and phil. the— welcome back to friday morning with esther and phil. the time he— with esther and phil. the time he hee.— with esther and phil. the time now is 1139. now— with esther and phil. the time now is 1139. now the start of he— now is 1139. now the start of me ehaw— now is 1139. now the start of me ehew, we— now is 1139. now the start of the show, we had- now is 1139. now the start of the show, we had an interview whrh— the show, we had an interview with professor— the show, we had an interview with professor carl henaghan and dr. with professor carl henaghan and or. hem— with professor carl henaghan and dr. tom jefferson— with professor carl henaghan and dr. tom jefferson about their research into— dr. tom jefferson about their research into .— dr. tom jefferson about their research into . the methods used research into. the methods used by he— research into. the methods used by me wh— research into. the methods used by he rah ra— research into. the methods used by the uk to justify wearing of haee— by the uk to justify wearing of race maehe— by the uk to justify wearing of face masks and— by the uk to justify wearing of face masks and we've had a eraremehr— face masks and we've had a statement through from the uk, as..— statement through from the uk, hew rhe— statement through from the uk, hew rhe wh— statement through from the uk, hsa, the uk health security agency— hsa, the uk health security agency .— hsa, the uk health security agency , mam — hsa, the uk health security agency , from dr. renu bindra, agency, from dr. renu bindra, rhehr— agency, from dr. renu bindra, rhehr hearty— agency, from dr. renu bindra, their deputy director of public hearth— their deputy director of public health clinical— their deputy director of public health clinical response, he eaha—

health clinical response, he eaha rhe— health clinical response, he said the current— health clinical response, he said the current evidence on haee— said the current evidence on race eawerhae— said the current evidence on face coverings suggests that all types— face coverings suggests that all type er— face coverings suggests that all type or haee— face coverings suggests that all types of face coverings are , to types of face coverings are, to waryhhg — types of face coverings are, to varying exrehre— types of face coverings are, to varying extents, effect lviv in retreat— varying extents, effect lviv in reducing transmission of reephrarary— reducing transmission of respiratory viruses in both heahrh— respiratory viruses in both health care— respiratory viruses in both health care and community eerrhhge— health care and community eerrhhge . — health care and community settings. n95— health care and community settings . n9; settings. n95 respirators are likely to be the most effective , followed by surgical masks and then non—medical masks. although optimised non—medical masks made of 2 or 3 layers might have similar air filtration efficiency to surgical masks. the evidence specific to covid 19 is still limited and does not allow for firm conclusions to be drawn for specific settings and types of face coverings . types of face coverings. however, there is no evidence to suggest that face coverings and masks would be less effective at preventing the transmission of covid 19 than any other similar respin gyratory infection. so that's what the uk hsa have to say in response to what professor carl heneghan and tom jefferson . and here's what some jefferson. and here's what some of ear— jefferson. and here's what some or wewere— jefferson. and here's what some of our viewers said.— .. and here's what some of our viewers said. stefan eaye— of our viewers said. stefan eaye rm— of our viewers said. stefan says, i'm constant amazed at the hack— says, i'm constant amazed at the

hack er— says, i'm constant amazed at the lack of knowledge— says, i'm constant amazed at the lack of knowledge on this eahr-eer— lack of knowledge on this subject here.— lack of knowledge on this subject here. here. i think we-hh— subject here. here. i think we-hh arr— subject here. here. i think we'll all agree— subject here. here. i think we'll all agree with that. the ceehrahe— we'll all agree with that. the cochrane report— we'll all agree with that. the cochrane report and two other ehame— cochrane report and two other rererre have— cochrane report and two other reports have definitively proven mar— reports have definitively proven that wearhhg— reports have definitively proven that wearing masks has absolutely— that wearing masks has absolutely no- that wearing masks has absolutely no effect on either transmissibility_ absolutely no effect on either transmissibility or infection. aha— transmissibility or infection. aha heter— transmissibility or infection. and peter says— transmissibility or infection. and peter says ,_ transmissibility or infection. and peter says , in my opinion, and peter says, in my opinion, at he— and peter says, in my opinion, at me eham— and peter says, in my opinion, at the start of— and peter says, in my opinion, at the start of the— and peter says, in my opinion, at the start of the pandemic, if we're in a mask— at the start of the pandemic, if we're in a mask saved even just hhe,— we're in a mask saved even just the hem— we're in a mask saved even just one life, then .was_ we're in a mask saved even just one life, then was well worth one life, then it was well worth hr. — one life, then it was well worth hr. hhe— one life, then it was well worth hr. hhe threa— one life, then it was well worth it. the first wave— one life, then it was well worth it. the first wave-the- it. the first wave of the pandemic killer wave. pandemic was the killer wave. i think this issue going to think this issue is going to keep rolling on in terms of the scientific evidence and the bafis scientific evidence and the basis for which people are asked. interestingly , what carl asked. interestingly, what carl hahhhaah— asked. interestingly, what carl hahhhaah aha— asked. interestingly, what carl hannigan and tom— : interestingly, what carl hannigan and tom jefferson were aehhha— hannigan and tom jefferson were aehhhg rer— hannigan and tom jefferson were aehhhg her wae— hannigan and tom jefferson were aehhhg rar a— hannigan and tom jefferson were asking for was a definitive body whrhhh— asking for was a definitive body within government to analyse the hara— within government to analyse the data property,— within government to analyse the data properlyr har— within government to analyse the data properly, not cherry pick, not data properly, not cherry pick, her have— data properly, not cherry pick, her have your— data properly, not cherry pick, not have your policy and rerrerhr— not have your policy and retrofit from _ not have your policy and retrofit from the facts, but aeraahhy— retrofit from the facts, but actually have— retrofit from the facts, but actually have this department whheh— actually have this department whheh wae— actually have this department which was lacking. it's very , which was lacking. it's very, very— which was lacking. it's very, very mhe— which was lacking. it's very, very rhhe he— which was lacking. it's very, very this is going to go on and on very this is going to go on and em aha— very this is going to go on and em and h— very this is going to go on and on and on. i think- very this is going to go on and on and on. i think in- very this is going to go on and on and on. “ very this is going to go on and on and on. .. on and on. i think in terms of the basis upon which we were asked to wear face masks, whether or not the evidence was there or not the there or whether or not the evidence manipulated in evidence was manipulated in order a political order to justify a political decision . anyway, we're now decision. anyway, we're now joined by sarah robertson to

give latest showbiz and give us the latest showbiz and entertain news. sarah, welcome . entertain news. sarah, welcome. entertainers. please entertain you. indeed. entertainers. please entertain you . indeed. well, it's all you. indeed. well, it's all going— you. indeed. well, it's all going ah— you. indeed. well, it's all going h-e— indeed. well, it's all going on. it's strictly come aahehhg— going on. it's strictly come aahehhg ar— going on. it's strictly come dancing at the— going on. it's strictly come dancing at the bbc. bbc chiefs are dancing at the bbc. bbc chiefs where.— dancing at the bbc. bbc chiefs are furious. apparently because the are furious. apparently because he judges— are furious. apparently because the judges aren't— are furious. apparently because the judges aren't demanding an 11% the judges aren't demanding an me pay— the judges aren't demanding an me pay hee— the judges aren't demanding an me pay .— the judges aren't demanding an 11% pay rise . and— the judges aren't demanding an 11% pay rise . and this has upset 11% pay rise. and this has upset hhe— 11% pay rise. and this has upset hhe ehhere. — 11% pay rise. and this has upset bbc chiefs. and— 11% pay rise. and this has upset bbc chiefs. and it's also upset the professional— bbc chiefs. and it's also upset the professional dancers as they anhy— the professional dancers as they why her— the professional dancers as they only get £35,000 _ the professional dancers as they only get £35,000 a— the professional dancers as they only get £35,000 a series. apparehrhy— only get £35,000 a series. apparenfly but_ only get £35,000 a series. apparently but the judges are on ahwarae— apparently but the judges are on ahwarae ar— apparently but the judges are on upwards of 200,000. well i think her— upwards of 200,000. well i think rhehr hhaearae— upwards of 200,000. well i think their placards and— upwards of 200,000. well i think their placards and go pro reerhhg. — their placards and go pro testing. this— their placards and go pro testing. this is- their placards and go pro testing. .. l testing. this is it esther. i think they're following in the junior doctors and the nurses footsteps, aren't they? and they're more realistic- rttrtr“ . g“rt;«r7’ and they're more realistic the more reahherhe— they're more realistic the more reahherhe eh— they're more realistic the more realistic on their— they're more realistic the more realistic on their aim for these heathe— realistic on their aim for these people going— realistic on their aim for these people going i_ realistic on their aim for these people going i know, but 11% pay people going i know, but11% pay hee— people going i know, but 11% pay hhar-e— people going i know, but 11% pay hhar-e re— people going i know, but 11% pay rise. that's to not— people going i know, but 11% pay rise. that's to not be laughed at he— rise. that's to not be laughed at he he— rise. that's to not be laughed at he he so— rise. that's to not be laughed at is it? so you— rise. that's to not be laughed at is it? so you know, shirley hahhae— at is it? so you know, shirley hahhae he— at is it? so you know, shirley hahhae he eh— at is it? so you know, shirley ballas is on half— at is it? so you know, shirley ballas is on half a million a y...— ballas is on half a million a y... rerarreahy— ballas is on half a million a year, reportedly she's year, reportedly she and she's wahrhha— year, reportedly she and she's wahrhha mhe— year, reportedly she and she's wanting this 11%— year, reportedly she and she's wanting this 11% pay rise. so mar-e— wanting this 11% pay rise. so mate a— wanting this 11% pay rise. so mate a big— wanting this 11% pay rise. so that's a big payday they that's a big payday if they gram— that's a big payday if they gram-har— that's a big payday if they grant-but we- that's a big payday if they grant but we shall see. so grant it. but we shall see. so mar-e— grant it. but we shall see. so mare-heem— grant it. but we shall see. so that's been happening that's what's been happening rhere. — that's what's been happening over there. t. r:rt:r over there. someone else will do it for less, i'm sure i'll volunteer. i'll volunteer. i rhhhh— volunteer. i'll volunteer. i rhhhh here— volunteer. i'll volunteer. i

think lots of— volunteer. i'll volunteer. i think lots of us. - i'll volunteer. i think lots of us. what about you,— think lots of us. what about yaw, herhere — think lots of us. what about you, esther? : r:rt:r . you, esther? would you do it for less? would you?— you, esther? would you do it for less? would you? we- you, esther? would you do it for less? would you? we all- you, esther? : r:rt:r . 7 would you? we all love less? would you? we all love emery,— less? would you? we all love errherhy, aah-r— less? would you? we all love strictly, don't we?— 7 would you? we all love strictly, don't we? on to the hear— strictly, don't we? on to the hear that— strictly, don't we? on to the hear that .— strictly, don't we? on to the next thing . obviously we heard next thing. obviously we heard yeereraay— next thing. obviously we heard yeereraaylrhe — next thing. obviously we heard yesterday the de—man yesterday in the news. de—man emera— yesterday in the news. de—man emhereh. she— yesterday in the news. de—man omicron. she passed away at the age— omicron. she passed away at the aae-hrhharee— omicron. she passed away at the age-tributes have- omicron. she passed away at the age tributes have been age of 93. tributes have been hawhhg— age of 93. tributes have been rhawhhg ham — age of 93. tributes have been flowing from the— age of 93. tributes have been flowing from the fashion and ehewhhz— flowing from the fashion and showbiz world— flowing from the fashion and showbiz world overnight , saying showbiz world overnight, saying how— showbiz world overnight, saying how ehe— showbiz world overnight, saying how she changed— showbiz world overnight, saying how she changed the face of raehheh. — how she changed the face of fashion. you— how she changed the face of fashion. you know, made it reeehhhe— fashion. you know, made it haeehhhe rar— fashion. you know, made it possible for women really to awaheea— possible for women really to awameea hh— possible for women really to advance in the— possible for women really to advance in the workplace because it advance in the workplace because hr gave— advance in the workplace because hr gave wmeh— advance in the workplace because it gave women that— advance in the workplace because it gave women that freedom when they— it gave women that freedom when they erahea — it gave women that freedom when they started wearing their ehhrre— they started wearing their skirts shorter. - they started wearing their skirts shorter. she was more than fashion. she was she was women coming of age in so many different ways. i have to say, i did interview jerry quant. i write books for school girls on career advice and what have you. and so i spoke to this lady and i was just so amazed how fun she was , pragmatic. she was down to was, pragmatic. she was down to earth . she was she was quick earth. she was she was quick minded and she knew her mind. so i was trying to get her to give advice to young kids. and i said, what if things go wrong? have you ever had a fashion design that went wrong? and she

laughed said, yes, laughed and she said, yes, she did. she you know, yes, did. and she you know, yes, she's known for the minis, but she's known for the minis, but she was doing the maxis longest and shop on and she went into her shop on the road and they weren't the king's road and they weren't selling. and she this could selling. and she said this could have a go so as have made a go bust so quick as a was selling was a flash. what was selling was the shorter skirts. so all of those longer skirts were taken off the shelves, back into the, you know, back on the sewing machines cut shorter. and that's when i thought , my goodness, when i thought, my goodness, you're a phenomenon. she could see wasn't she had see it wasn't working. she had to make a decision. and she did. and just the work. and and she just redid the work. and so said that's what so she said that's what kids need they need to have need to do. they need to have focus , know what they're doing. focus, know what they're doing. and if you make a mistake, learn from pdq she really was from it. pdq she really was a trailblazer , wasn't she? and trailblazer, wasn't she? and going on from from- l 7 and going on from from there. james career— going on from from there. james caraeh hae— going on from from there. james corden has now— going on from from there. james corden has now come out and demea— corden has now come out and aehhea mar— corden has now come out and denied that one— corden has now come out and denied that one direction will not denied that one direction will her he— denied that one direction will not be reuniting— denied that one direction will not be reuniting on his last ever show the— not be reuniting on his last ever show the late late show over in america. _ ever show the late late show over in america. he got all the ehe— over in america. he got all the one direction— over in america. he got all the one direction fans— over in america. he got all the one direction fans hopes up. t hey— one direction fans hopes up. hhey rhawahr— one direction fans hopes up. they thought they were coming together— they thought they were coming raaerher aha— they thought they were coming together and to— they thought they were coming together and to see him off. but apparehrhy— together and to see him off. but apparehrhy hr-e— together and to see him off. but

apparently it's not— together and to see him off. but apparently it's not the case. hhe— apparently it's not the case. hhe haee— apparently it's not the case. the lads can't— apparently it's not the case. the lads can't be together. so whate— the lads can't be together. so what? where— the lads can't be together. so what? where did— the lads can't be together. so what? where did it— the lads can't be together. so what? where did it come from then? did he just make it up or. well, it's just these rumours fly around, i mean, i did. fly around, phil, i mean, i did. i did write myself i did write a story myself a earthe— i did write a story myself a eawrhelyeare— i did write a story myself a couple years ago where there couple of years ago where there were-rhea— couple of years ago where there were-then about- couple of years ago where there were then about them were talks then about them eemhha— were talks then about them emhe-har- were talks then about them coming but think coming together, but i think hhey— coming together, but i think hhey-eart— coming together, but i think hhey-eah-r-hr- they just can't make it work. we— they just can't make it work. hhe-eay— they just can't make it work. hhe-say mar— they just can't make it work. me-say that tomorrow- they just can't make it work. . me-say that tomorrow-our me just say that tomorrow on our show, one direction are going to i say was i was going to say this was a one direction leak, wasn't it? yeah. licky. licky. licky. licky misinformation . yeah,- yeah. licky. licky. licky. licky misinformation . yeah, it- yeah. rte/gr rte/gr rte/gr rte/gr misinformation . yeah, it was. misinformation. yeah, it was. i mmh— misinformation. yeah, it was. i rhhhh. h— misinformation. yeah, it was. i rhhhh. h mmh— misinformation. yeah, it was. i think. i think people- misinformation. yeah, it was. i think. i think people say- misinformation. yeah, it was. i think. i think people say things often in the hope that they just keep saying enough. it will keep saying it enough. it will happen. it not. so there happen. but it has not. so there you go . so sorry. fans. you go. so sorry. 1d fans. you'll have wait a little bit you'll have to wait a little bit longer. now this is interest saying this story. king saying love this story. king charles has been named as time magazine's one of their icons is no less by edward enninful fashion editor of vogue , vogue fashion editor of vogue, vogue magazine's editor. he said he's anicon. magazine's editor. he said he's an icon . he's done so much for an icon. he's done so much for the public. he thinks he's going to be a fantastic monarch who's really going to sort of lead the way and is a trailblazer. and what i find fascinating about

this is that meghan and harry, who who made the cover of time magazine two years ago, they've dropped off the top 100 list altogether. and king charles has nabbed their spot . they altogether. and king charles has nabbed their spot. they king charles will— nabbed their spot. they king charles will have— nabbed their spot. they king charles will have a- : t they king charles will have a copy of that remem— charles will have a copy of that rahhghr. hhm— charles will have a copy of that tonight. him and— charles will have a copy of that tonight. him and camilla will be laughing— tonight. him and camilla will be laughing ar— tonight. him and camilla will be laughing at that— tonight. him and camilla will be laughing at that .— tonight. him and camilla will be laughing at that . they've made laughing at that. they've made the laughing at that. they've made me her— laughing at that. they've made me her eter— laughing at that. they've made the top spot button , meghan and the top spot button, meghan and marry.— the top spot button, meghan and marry. h— the top spot button, meghan and marry. h rhhhh— the top spot button, meghan and harry. i think he's— the top spot button, meghan and harry. i think he's too busy. i mean, a fashion— harry. i think he's too busy. i mean, a fashion icon- harry. i think he's too busy. i mean, a fashion icon as- harry. i think he's too busy. i mean, a fashion icon as well as just a general icon. he's just in a general icon. fashion icon. no in a general icon. fashion icon. we became— in a general icon. fashion icon. no because-working- ,. gt; t“ fashion icon. no because working with no because nfl is working with the no because nfl is working with me hrhheeee— no because nfl is working with the princess trust.— no because nfl is working with the princess trust. he's working whrh— the princess trust. he's working whrh rhe— the princess trust. he's working with the prince's— the princess trust. he's working with the prince's trust. and he have— with the prince's trust. and he loves-passionate- with the prince's trust. and he loves passionate king loves how passionate king charhee— loves how passionate king charhee he. — loves how passionate king charles is. his- loves how passionate king charles is. . thy loves how passionate king charles is. t trtrgrth. charles is. his military regalia on today? santos. thought on today? it's santos. i thought he of a fashion he was a bit of a fashion icon, very dashing . yeah. well, there very dashing. yeah. well, there you 90- — very dashing. yeah. well, there you 90- sa— very dashing. yeah. well, there you go. so that's— very dashing. yeah. well, there you go. so that's one in the eye for harry and meghan. they won't like will meghan like that, will they? or meghan won't. not won't. and andrew's not releasing . yes, this is releasing this. yes, this is very interesting,- “g yes, this is very interesting, esther. «£in very interesting, esther. very hmereerhma— very interesting, esther. very interesting story— very interesting, esther. very interesting story .— very interesting, esther. very interesting story . so- very interesting, esther. very interesting story . so it's been interesting story. so it's been mooted over the last few months that prince andrew was going to copy and do his own copy his nephew and do his own tell all memoir. but apparently this is not the case. andrew, i've been told, is standing

square behind king charles, his brother, and charles is using the coronation as an opportunity to bring the family back together and wants to sort of bnng together and wants to sort of bring andrew back in to the fold. but obviously in a private capacity and not in a public capacity. and in gratitude, andrew is not doing anything. he's not going to be doing a tell all. he's not going to be writing you know, we're writing a book. you know, we're going him stay quiet for going to see him stay quiet for the foreseeable. so that's interesting . i think so. interesting. i think so. robertson thank you very interesting. i think so. - robertson thank you very much haeea— robertson thank you very much hhaeea arrear— robertson thank you very much indeed about what's not harrehhhg— indeed about what's not happening than indeed about what's not happening-than is happening rather than what is happening- — happening rather than what is happening- yesr_ happening rather than what is happening. “rtt: happening rather than what is happening. /rt;~tr happening. yes, but that's just important. we're putting happening. /rt;~tr we're putting the important. we're putting the recom— important. we're putting the record straight. _ important. we're putting the record straight. she- we're putting the record straight. she knows what-e— record straight. she knows what's-there.- what's going on there. absolutely— what's going on there. absolutely we've got absolutely and we've got a earthe— absolutely and we've got a couple comments couple of more comments here. wherew— couple of more comments here. obviously,-about- couple of more comments here. obviously, about the obviously, talking about the hectare— obviously, talking about the doctors - action - obviously, talking about the doctors action there. doctors strike action there. harem— doctors strike action there. harem eaye— doctors strike action there. karen says esther and philip, in my-aaerere— karen says esther and philip, in my-doctors and- karen says esther and philip, in my doctors and nurses, my view, doctors and nurses, errhhhhg— my view, doctors and nurses, striking-nothing- my view, doctors and nurses, striking nothing less than a striking is nothing less than a regar— striking is nothing less than a legal protection— striking is nothing less than a legal protection racket . if the legal protection racket. if the her— legal protection racket. if the reer ar— legal protection racket. if the reer or we— legal protection racket. if the rest of us don't— legal protection racket. if the rest of us don't pay them more mey— rest of us don't pay them more money, our health— rest of us don't pay them more money, our health is at risk. ama— money, our health is at risk. and harder— money, our health is at risk. and gordon says,— money, our health is at risk. and gordon says, i'm- money, our health is at risk. and gordon says, i'm absolutely disgusted these nurses disgusted by these nurses and doctors on strike. their pay lost through inflation is no worse their worse than anyone else. their pay worse than anyone else. their pay is much better than a lot of

other workers on top their other workers on top of their generous and sick leave. generous pension and sick leave. they have security of they have absolute security of their job. gets that in they have absolute security of theirjob. gets that in any their job. who gets that in any other job? and they can move anywhere country keep anywhere in the country and keep their are just their job. they are just unbelievable. well, we're joined haw—wr- unbelievable. well, we're joined haw—hr ahal now by former labour mp and armor— now by former labour mp and author simon— now by former labour mp and author simon .uk_ now by former labour mp and author simon .uk and political eemmehaerrr— author simon .uk and political commentator suzanne evans. now, this commentator suzanne evans. now, rhhe wae— commentator suzanne evans. now, the whar— commentator suzanne evans. now, the whar yea— commentator suzanne evans. now, this was what you were saying a hhrrhe— this was what you were saying a hhrrhe hh— this was what you were saying a little bit earlier,— this was what you were saying a little bit earlier, simon, that you— little bit earlier, simon, that you wee— little bit earlier, simon, that you were surprised that they had as you were surprised that they had ae mach— you were surprised that they had ae mweh euphem— you were surprised that they had as much support the junior hectare— as much support the junior doctors from _ as much support the junior doctors from the public. i'm wehaerhhg— doctors from the public. i'm wondering.it_ doctors from the public. i'm wonderinglit is- doctors from the public. i'm wondering it is changing now wondering if it is changing now heeaaee— wondering if it is changing now heeaaee rhe— wondering if it is changing now because the comments coming in are-mar— because the comments coming in are .that supportive- because the comments coming in are that supportive of the are not that supportive of the tumor— are not that supportive of the tamer-h— are not that supportive of the junior-i think- are not that supportive of the junior-i think it- are not that supportive of the junior i think it will junior doctors. i think it will erode— junior doctors. i think it will erode over-and- junior doctors. i think it will erode over-and the. junior doctors. i think it will- erode over-and the longer erode over time. and the longer they keep this strike action on, they keep this strike action on, the more likely they are they're going to lose support from the public. and we saw on the front of the telegraph today, it's resulting deaths. mean, resulting in deaths. i mean, this reality of the this is the reality of the action they're taking . it's action that they're taking. it's unrealistic asking for 35. they need to get back around and it's not helping the nurses either. we thought we'd we'd solve we thought that we'd we'd solve mar—game- we thought that we'd we'd solve mar—game haehl that one. they were going back to that one. they were going back tea—her— that one. they were going back re—her hw- that one. they were going back re—her . - that one. they were going back to_not now . n0,j to work. seems not now. no, mar-e— to work. seems not now. no, mar-e right-— to work. seems not now. no, that's right. and this is a real

issue for the government as well. actually, they have to try and manage this. we're running close to a general election. how it will impact on that is very interesting , suzanne. we spoke interesting, suzanne. we spoke about childcare costs earlier with a mom and with with the chief executive of the early years alliance who was saying that, in effect , the government that, in effect, the government should be doing more to subsidise childcare for people so they can go back to work. where do you where do whereydo you where do you stand where do you where do you stand on where do you where do you stand eh-wehh.— where do you where do you stand ah-wehh. hrs— where do you where do you stand on _well, it's interesting. on this? well, it's interesting because daughter's grown because my daughter's grown up now, single mother. now, but i was a single mother. i'm struggled with i'm really quite struggled with childcare nature i'm really quite struggled with ch theare nature i'm really quite struggled with ch the job. nature i'm really quite struggled with ch the job. i nature i'm really quite struggled with ch the job. i had. nature i'm really quite struggled with ch the job. i had. i nature i'm really quite struggled with ch the job. i had. i reallynature of the job. i had. i really needed live in help and there were weeks was were some weeks when i was paying were some weeks when i was paying living more paying that living help more than earning . so reports than i was earning. so reports that hearing that parents that we're hearing that parents are spending 30% of their income on childcare , i'd think, yes, on childcare, i'd think, yes, please. that would have for please. that would have been for great time. but i have great me at the time. but i have a issue actually, with a bit of an issue actually, with the government more the government providing more and for childcare. the government providing more afirmly for childcare. the government providing more afirmly believe for childcare. the government providing more afirmly believe that' childcare. the government providing more afirmly believe that part dcare. the government providing more afirmly believe that part ofare. i firmly believe that part of the childcare has the reason that childcare has become expensive is because become so expensive is because there have been endless government subsidies endless

government subsidies and endless amounts not endless amounts of, well, not endless amounts, a significant amounts, but a significant amounts, but a significant amount childcare. and amount of free childcare. and that inevitably drives up the price. so in a sense i think this has been a self—fulfilling prophecy. government should prophecy. so government should help childcare? i help with childcare? yes, i think that's right. but there has got to be a limit because the more subsidy you put in from a government, the higher the price is the prices are. i also think is a serious think there is a serious question to be asked about whether really be whether we should really be encouraging parents to go to go out to work rather than staying at home to look after their children, particularly if they're single were they're single parents were helping by getting helping the economy by getting the mum out in the workplace. and i wonder , well, is and i wonder, well, is that rhghr— and i wonder, well, is that rhghr e— and i wonder, well, is that right ever— and i wonder, well, is that right ? you maybe you should be right? you maybe you should be at home— right? you maybe you should be at home whrh— right? you maybe you should be at home with your— right? you maybe you should be at home with your child. i just hehhewe— at home with your child. i just hehhewe hh— at home with your child. i just believe in choice. _ at home with your child. i just believe in choice. “cir?" i at home with your child. i just believe in choice. / i think believe in choice. yeah. i think the economics— believe in choice. yeah. i think the economics of— believe in choice. / i think the economics of childcare are he— the economics of childcare are me reha— the economics of childcare are me poini mar— the economics of childcare are the point that suzanne makes. if aawemmehr— the point that suzanne makes. if government make— the point that suzanne makes. if government make an intervention and government make an intervention aha-mar,— government make an intervention and-that,-impactl and subsidise that, what impact heee— and subsidise that, what impact heee-have— and subsidise that, what impact heee-have ah— and subsidise that, what impact does-have on on- does that have on on the hhaaerrye— does that have on on the industry? think i do think we industry? i think i do think we eheaha— industry? i think i do think we eheaha make— industry? i think i do think we should make a— industry? i think i do think we should make a positive intervention— should make a positive intervention .- should make a positive intervention . this about intervention. this is about harme— intervention. this is about future generations , education future generations, education for future generations, education ramme— future generations, education for future generations . so for future generations. so i rhhhh— for future generations. so i

rhhhh hhe— for future generations. so i think it's an— for future generations. so i think it's an important intervention,- think it's an important intervention, but i think we ehaaha— intervention, but i think we eheaha he— intervention, but i think we should be more— intervention, but i think we should be more innovative , use should be more innovative, use hrhmary— should be more innovative, use hrhmary-mere- should be more innovative, use hrhmary-mare .- should be more innovative, use rrhmary-mare . we- should be more innovative, use primary more . we don't primary schools, more. we don't have— primary schools, more. we don't have re— primary schools, more. we don't have re hahha— primary schools, more. we don't have to build lots— primary schools, more. we don't have to build lots of new eehreer— have to build lots of new centres . and— have to build lots of new centres . and think something centres. and i think something hhe— centres. and i think something like surestart_ centres. and i think something like surestart was— centres. and i think something like surestart was a positive. i rhhhh— like surestart was a positive. i rhhhh hr— like surestart was a positive. i think it made— like surestart was a positive. i think it made a— like surestart was a positive. i think it made a good positive hhrewehrheh— think it made a good positive intervention children. now intervention for children. now eamelrhe— intervention for children. now some the childcare centres some of the childcare centres weara— some of the childcare centres were eay— some of the childcare centres wewre eay he— some of the childcare centres would say one of— some of the childcare centres would say one of the worst rhhhge. — would say one of the worst rhhhge. sa— would say one of the worst things. so there- would say one of the worst things. g“rt;trt; would say one of the worst things. so there has been an intervention. the government are sort of dictating the price and they're losing money because you can't add to that support. so they've made an intervention, they've made an intervention, they've put billions of pounds into a way they're into it, but in a way they're stymieing the development of these well. yeah, these centres as well. yeah, i think these centres as well. yeah, i rhhhh mar-e— these centres as well. yeah, i think that's right.— these centres as well. yeah, i think that's right. - these centres as well. yeah, i think that's right. so- t yeah, i think that's right. so the intervention— think that's right. so the intervention and it in intervention and we saw it in the budget recently , more money, the budget recently, more money, taxpayers money being put into this is it the right way to go about it? is it the right solution? and i don't think we're being particularly innovative with innovative about coming up with solutions involving children solutions of involving children more in education at early more in education at an early stage. erg more in education at an early stage . erg we were also stage. erg we were also aheeaeehhg— g erg we were also discussing earlier the pentagon heare— discussing earlier the pentagon hewe-.— discussing earlier the pentagon heahe-. hr-e— discussing earlier the pentagon leaks,-. it's quite- discussing earlier the pentagon leaks, . it's quite it leaks, suzanne. it's quite it awre— leaks, suzanne. it's quite it seems quite extraordinary that a 21 seems quite extraordinary that a er year— seems quite extraordinary that a er year eha— seems quite extraordinary that a 21 year old person— seems quite extraordinary that a 21 year old person who seems to

be 21 year old person who seems to he rahrhy— 21 year old person who seems to he rahrhy hew— 21 year old person who seems to be fairly low down— 21 year old person who seems to be fairly low down the pecking emer— be fairly low down the pecking order .— be fairly low down the pecking emer, hae— be fairly low down the pecking order , has access— be fairly low down the pecking order , has access to this order, has access to this privileged— order, has access to this privileged confidential information— privileged confidential information . it seems a curious information. it seems a curious erary— information. it seems a curious erary ra— information. it seems a curious erary re me— information. it seems a curious erary re me . — information. it seems a curious story to me . well,- information. it seems a curious story to me . �*rw�*rt;.. . story to me. well, it is curious. and i guess there's two answers to why it's curious . and answers to why it's curious. and that is, well, one, he did it. or two, he's a fall guy for somebody else. but i think what worries me about the first point is if it was him and if this 21 year was indeed leaking year old was indeed leaking these highly classified state secret and could get hold of them, then surely russia and china can get hold of them quite easily as well. so i think there's a serious issue. i mean, this is the most serious breach i can remember in at least the last ten years. and although some of the some of the issues and of the stuff that's and some of the stuff that's been leaked, i think is not necessarily that surprising. i felt some time, for felt for quite some time, for instance, that ukraine is not doing quite as as the doing quite so well as as the propaganda might have us believe . well, all i'd say somebody ahwheaehy— . well, all i'd say somebody ahwhawehy yaw— well, all i'd say somebody obviously you have been an mp , obviously you have been an mp, hwe— obviously you have been an mp, h-we heem— obviously you have been an mp, he been a— obviously you have been an mp, i've been a junior— obviously you have been an mp, i've been a junior minister and rye- i've been a junior minister and hwe-a— i've been a junior minister and hwe-a secretary— i've been a junior minister and i've-a secretary of- i've been a junior minister and i've a secretary of state i've been a secretary of state aha— i've been a secretary of state are a— i've been a secretary of state and a-minister- i've been a secretary of state and a-minister .- i've been a secretary of state and a minister . and the and a cabinet minister. and the mare-ga— and a cabinet minister. and the more-go ah,— and a cabinet minister. and the more-go ah, ae— and a cabinet minister. and the more-go ah, ae hr- and a cabinet minister. and the more go up, as it were, the

more you go up, as it were, the ham— more you go up, as it were, the he he— more you go up, as it were, the rahhe me me— more you go up, as it were, the ranks, the more checks are done on ranks, the more checks are done oh yea— ranks, the more checks are done oh you about— ranks, the more checks are done on you about whether you can be rraerea— on you about whether you can be rraerea whrh— on you about whether you can be trusted with this— on you about whether you can be trusted with this kind of information.— trusted with this kind of information. so checks are done . i information. so checks are done . h wae— information. so checks are done . h ahea— information. so checks are done . i was also chair— information. so checks are done . i was also chair of— information. so checks are done . i was also chair of the hrhrheh— . i was also chair of the british transport police hahharhhy— british transport police authority. more checks done authority. more checks were done there—mhe.- there. so that's one thing. here— there. so that's one thing. there _checks- there. so that's one thing. - there _checks .there's there. so that's one thing. - thyear-checks-there's there. so that's one thing. - thyear old .checks-there's there. so that's one thing. thyear old if checks there's there. so that's one thing. thyear old if they ks there's there. so that's one thing. thyear old if they now there's there. so that's one thing. thyear old if they now knowre's there. so that's one thing. thyear old if they now know all 21 year old if they now know all rheee— 21 year old if they now know all rheee rhhhae— 21 year old if they now know all these things about— 21 year old if they now know all these things about him, he's on hhe.— these things about him, he's on hhhe. hee— these things about him, he's on hhhe. we r— these things about him, he's on line. he's, i don't— these things about him, he's on line. he's, i don't know, a zeahar— line. he's, i don't know, a zeahar hh— line. he's, i don't know, a zealot in one— line. he's, i don't know, a zealot in one way or another. hee— zealot in one way or another. we mehrahhy— zealot in one way or another. he's mentally unstable . he he's mentally unstable. he wearer-r— he's mentally unstable. he wouldn't-past- he's mentally unstable. he wouldn't past some wouldn't have got past some of thee— wouldn't have got past some of those _clearance. - wouldn't have got past some of those clearance. and those security clearance. and rhea— those security clearance. and her he— those security clearance. and her siep_ those security clearance. and then one step further around the eahhher— then one step further around the cabinet table,— then one step further around the cabinet table, if— then one step further around the cabinet table, if something reahhy— cabinet table, if something reahhy he— cabinet table, if something really is this— cabinet table, if something really is this sensitive, you get— really is this sensitive, you gei a— really is this sensitive, you get a hara— really is this sensitive, you get a hard copy- - really is this sensitive, you get a hard copy. it's not emahhea— get a hard copy. it's not emailed to— get a hard copy. it's not emailed to you, you get a hard c0py— emailed to you, you get a hard copy- hr— emailed to you, you get a hard copy. hr he— emailed to you, you get a hard copy. it is numbered and it is harder— copy. it is numbered and it is handed back.— copy. it is numbered and it is handed back. at— copy. it is numbered and it is handed back. at the end of the meehhmo— handed back. at the end of the meeting, there— handed back. at the end of the meeting, there are no mobile theme— meeting, there are no mobile phone hh— meeting, there are no mobile phones in that— meeting, there are no mobile phones in that room. there is memhe.— phones in that room. there is memhe. se— phones in that room. there is nothing so yea— phones in that room. there is nothing. so you couldn't take photographe— nothing. so you couldn't take rheraararhela— nothing. so you couldn't take photographs. a has this photographs. so a pawn has this boy photographs. so a pawn has this hey heem— photographs. so a pawn has this hay heeh weee— photographs. so a pawn has this boy been used as— photographs. so a pawn has this boy been used as a— photographs. so a pawn has this boy been used as a pawn? i will say— boy been used as a pawn? i will eay a— boy been used as a pawn? i will eay a hay— boy been used as a pawn? i will eay a hay he— boy been used as a pawn? i will eay a hay he 2h— boy been used as a pawn? i will say a boy is 21 years old. is he reahhy— say a boy is 21 years old. is he reahhy rhe— say a boy is 21 years old. is he really the leaker?— say a boy is 21 years old. is he really the leaker? it does seem aahhaae— really the leaker? it does seem aahhaae mar— really the leaker? it does seem dubious that such— really the leaker? it does seem dubious that such a junior emhe— dubious that such a junior emhe er— dubious that such a junior member of the- dubious that such a junior member of the military would have— member of the military would have access to _ member of the military would have access to such classified hmarmarheh— have access to such classified hmermarheh. — have access to such classified information . that- have access to such classified information . information. that has to be called into question . and some called into question. and some of the facts that are coming out

in interesting, for in increasingly interesting, for example , the fact that, well , example, the fact that, well, it's the alleged fact that egypt was going to supply arms to russia in the conflict. and more recently in the daily mail today, it suggested that china would prefer keir starmer to win the next general election. another one of the allegations to come out of this information, i don't think that'll do. keir starmer much good to be quite honest, but some interesting facts to come out from it. and of course the other issue is about the actual issue of ukraine whether or ukraine itself and whether or not be a wane in not there will be a wane in support in america for the war in ukraine, pain on on the back of it, which will obviously be great for news russia. great for news for russia. yeah, that's and that's yeah, that's right. and that's some the concern about that. some of the concern about that. that's an that's why it's so important an issue of these leaks. issue in terms of these leaks. simon suzanne, have you back on again. great simon suzanne, have you back on again . great to have you with us again. great to have you with us here— again. great to have you with us here raaay. — again. great to have you with us here today. that's— again. great to have you with us here today. that's all— rtgt .. great to have you with us here today. that's all we've gt .. great to have you with us here today. that's all we've got rhme— here today. that's all we've got rhme her.— here today. that's all we've got rhme rar- har— here today. that's all we've got time for. but up— here today. that's all we've got time for. but up next gb news time for. but up next is gb news hwe— time for. but up next is gb news hhwe whrh— time for. but up next is gb news live with mark— time for. but up next is gb news live with mark longhurst. and we-hh— live with mark longhurst. and we'll-tomorrow- live with mark longhurst. and we'll tomorrow at 10 we'll be back tomorrow at 10 .a— we'll be back tomorrow at 10 am-a where— we'll be back tomorrow at 10 am. a whole range of a.m. with a whole range of rathe— am. with a whole range of topicinncluding- am. with a whole range of topics including talking to one topics, including talking to one of topics, including talking to one

or hrhrahh-e— topics, including talking to one of britain's most— topics, including talking to one of britain's most formally reared— of britain's most formally feared gangster who turned his life feared gangster who turned his hhe areare— feared gangster who turned his life around. and— feared gangster who turned his life around. and he'll be. and we-hh— life around. and he'll be. and we-hh ahee— life around. and he'll be. and we'll also be— life around. and he'll be. and we'll also be going to the ahrheae— we'll also be going to the antique ulez_ we'll also be going to the antique ulez protest in london. so antique ulez protest in london. se reh— antique ulez protest in london. se tehh ae— antique ulez protest in london. se rehh ae rhea— antique ulez protest in london. so join us then . _ antique ulez protest in london. so join us then . “rttrt; so join us then. hello there. welcome to your friday weather update. i'm clare nasir. showery today some persistent rain across more southern areas but it does warm up into the weekend. first of all your bigger picture low pressure in charge right across the country . this one here is producing more persistent rain. it's tracking down towards the low countries. a lighter breeze further north so you can catch some showers. they will be slow moving. always moving. and there's always fronts in the vicinity. rain never too far away, but it's pretty much sunshine and showers towards the north—west more persistent cloud across central parts of scotland, towards parts of scotland, down towards northern england some northern england and some showery rain here showery rain. this rain here gradually tracks towards the east, but some heavier bursts across eastern counties through this afternoon . so here are your this afternoon. so here are your temperatures for temperatures below average for this year and quite this time of year and quite a breeze develops through the afternoon more afternoon across more southwestern areas the southwestern areas of the country. now notice this evening, this rain does clear

more western areas, but it becomes confined more eastern becomes confined to more eastern parts , heavier bursts likely parts, heavier bursts likely across kent east anglia, some clearer further west. and clearer skies further west. and with the chance of with that, the chance of a frost. northern ireland, western scotland , perhaps the far north scotland, perhaps the far north of more of a breeze down of wales, more of a breeze down towards southwest, keeping towards the southwest, keeping temperatures towards the southwest, keeping te bit eratures towards the southwest, keeping te bit of itures towards the southwest, keeping te bit of aires towards the southwest, keeping te bit of a wet towards the southwest, keeping tebit of a wet start towards the southwest, keeping te bit of a wet start to the day a bit of a wet start to the day across eastern counties. however, through saturday, this rain and clears towards rain slides and clears towards the east, a cold start elsewhere, but it will be bright across western and southern parts of scotland, down towards northern ireland, west wales as well as the west country. the cloud the cloud breaks up through the afternoon triggering afternoon, triggering some showers see some sunshine showers as we see some sunshine and these showers again could just heavy towards the just about be heavy towards the east, but they will be scattered. temperatures higher than they have around than what they have been around 13 15, 16 c before. the cloud 13 to 15, 16 c before. the cloud thickens from the west. here's a snapshot for sunday morning. rain across the north as well as the west. drier skies elsewhere after a chilly start, the cloud will break. so we will see some sunshine through the afternoon. and again, where you catch some

brighter temperatures brighter weather. temperatures doing for this time doing quite well for this time of 17 or 18 c. a fine of year. 17 or 18 c. a fine start to next week, again, with some sunshine .

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