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legislation , to basically force legislation, to basically force workers to cross picket lines, which are manned by their colleagues . i think it is colleagues. i think it is completely unprincipled and unethical and vain . i just don't unethical and vain. i just don't think it would work. the idea that workers are going to be strong armed breaking a strike that they've voted for, i think is just so in the end, i think, bill, it certainly is a backward andifs bill, it certainly is a backward and it's going to inflame situation in my view make the strikes even worse . two teenage strikes even worse. two teenage boys have been charged with murder of a 16 year old. he was stabbed to death in northampton . rowan shand, known as fred , . rowan shand, known as fred, died following the attack on wednesday afternoon. the 14 and 16 year old boys who can't be named for legal reasons, will appear before northampton magistrates court today . three magistrates court today. three men have been jailed in over £35,000 worth of cocaine and heroin seized in westminster in major operation by the met police . side cartel max daniels

police. side cartel max daniels and lloyd brown have been in prison for a combined total of seven years. their charges the supplying of class a drugs and possessing firearms . the met has possessing firearms. the met has closed over 1800 lines and arrested over 3000 county line offenders . since november 2019. offenders. since november 2019. london city hall staff will no longer have access to tick tock on their work devices. the greater london authority says it takes security extremely seriously. it follows similar bans imposed on government ministers in the palace of westminster and in the scottish government . tick tock, which is government. tick tock, which is owned by the chinese internet company bytedance , argues it company bytedance, argues it doesn't share data with china and says these patterns are based on fundamental misconceptions . gwyneth paltrow misconceptions. gwyneth paltrow has testified she initially thought she was being sexually assaulted . after a collision assaulted. after a collision with a retired doctor on a ski slope in utah in 2016, the 76

year old terry sanders is accusing the oscar winning actor of crashing into him and says he's living with a permanent traumatic brain injury as a result . he's suing for damages result. he's suing for damages worth a quarter of £1,000,000. but ms. paltrow denies the allegations and says she can't be held response libel. i was skiing and two skiers came between my skis, forcing my legs apart. and then there was a body pressing against me . and there pressing against me. and there was a very strange grunting noise . so my brain was trying to noise. so my brain was trying to make sense of what was happening. i thought, am i is this a practical joke? is someone, like doing something ? someone, like doing something? this is really, really strange . this is really, really strange. one of britain's leading retail consulting nurses warned john lewis group faces a battle to regain its soul and warned failing for the retail giant was not option. mary porter's

published an open letter to the chair. sharon white, following the news. she was concerned ordering ending the employee owned structure to attract outside investment. john lewis employs 80,000 workers, has also warned of potential job cuts and staff. it wouldn't hand out a bonus for only the second time since 1953. the princess of wales is championing the role business can play in supporting children and their careers. this week, kate launched her business for early childhood , whose for early childhood, whose members include unilever , ikea, members include unilever, ikea, natwest and lego . in a video natwest and lego. in a video released by kensington , the released by kensington, the princess spoke with eisen's chief executive chair, richard walker . she explained how often walker. she explained how often the foundations, the skills, employers for are built in earlier years of our lives. also urged business leaders to prioritise wellbeing in the workplace to support family life . three fragments of ancient

sculptures from the parthenon temple have been held in the vatican , which have been held in vatican, which have been held in the vatican. museums for more than two centuries have been returned to athens. they were handed back during a special at the acropolis museum and have since been placed in the parthenon gallery. the greek government is hoping to recover all the original sculptures from the parthenon including the elgin marbles , which are elgin marbles, which are currently in the british and servicemen who helped to carry the queen's coffin in edinburgh are among those recognise in an honours list. the royal regiment of scotland carried coffin to st james's cathedral to lie in rest. the chief steward of the cathedral also received honours . the royal victorian order service to the monarch monarch . service to the monarch monarch. you're up to date on good news. we'll bring you monets as it happens. now, though, it's we'll bring you monets as it happens . now, though, it's back happens. now, though, it's back to .

to. business very good afternoon. thank you for joining me on gb news. it's forjoining me on gb news. it's bev turner. don't panic. it's not monday morning. it is definitely saturday. am holding the fort for the next 3 hours. now there's been a amount happenedin now there's been a amount happened in politics this week, of course. and joining me now to discuss everything is catherine forster. before we start this, catherine, i do all viewers to know that the last time i saw catherine, we both sat in catherine, we were both sat in the we know the hairdressers. we didn't know we the same we went to the same hairdressers. and i sat there and along and looked and looked along and she looked at oh, we continue at and we went, oh, we continue to have a little natter for about 3 hours while go ahead. about 3 hours while we go ahead. so it's nice to see you in a professional capacity, right? it's a of a week in it's been a heck of a week in politics. we had the boris johnson grilling, the ridiculous, satiric cool combing oven ridiculous, satiric cool combing over, lied about over, whether he had lied about fact he had broken lockdown fact that he had broken lockdown rules. and did he know at the time. and was his lying reckless? this was word. we reckless? this was the word. we also had, of course, moving on to the brexit northern ireland

protocol deal , to the brexit northern ireland protocol deal, which for rishi sunak was the most significant of the week. tell us what happened. of the week. tell us what happened . so rishi sunak counts. happened. so rishi sunak counts. this is a big victory in that it many of the problems with boris johnson's protocol, but crucially not all of them. it did sail through parliament at 515 votes to 29. the that was much talked led by boris johnson , liz truss and duncan smith except to manage to muster a grand total of 22 votes plus the democratic unionist party . so democratic unionist party. so great for rishi sunak however , great for rishi sunak however, it doesn't fundamentally resolve one of the big problems, which is that there is no devolved government in northern because the dup collapsed powersharing a year ago over the protocol, although they say this is better, they say it's not good enough to back. so next month is the 25th anniversary of the good

friday agreement. president biden may be coming over. everybody would like to have say be able to say we've moved on. it's all up and running, but it isn't. and i don't see any prospect that changing in the immediate future for sure. so rishi sunak is currently very unpopular in ireland and with the due pay because this hasn't satisfied there needs to have severed greater with the eu . but severed greater with the eu. but in westminster he's clearly incredibly well thought of by the majority of his party because it's almost like they've prepared to throw northern ireland under the bus to support the prime minister. is that a fair assessment? well depending on which this is this is sort of with this topic, isn't it? depends on where you stand, sir. certainly the influence of the dup waned and the erg dup has waned and the erg significantly because of course, theresa may lost her majority in 17. she relied on the dup. they found £1,000,000,000 down the back of the sofa to get them in

a confidence and supply agreement. and they were very, very important. now, when boris johnson came along in 2019 with his protocol bill and he said there'd be no checks, the dup vehemently opposed that from the very beginning , but frankly the very beginning, but frankly the conservative party didn't really care because they didn't need them in the same way. and that really continued and the deputy chair of the of the erg, darren jones said about brexit, everybody wants the whole thing to go away and think that's part of it isn't simply seven years on people are really tired of it . there are obviously still concerns about what it means for northern ireland that it will not be treated the same as. the rest of the uk clearly. but an awful lot of people just want to feel that can move out of the fatigue as caught up with everything on that topic, hasn't it? rishi sunak by all accounts he's doing pretty well . there he's doing pretty well. there seems to be quite a lot of

feeling that he is managing to push the conservative party into a slightly more positive and more position in quite more powerful position in quite significantly in the last six months. i would say he very cleverly released his tax returns today on the day that bofis returns today on the day that boris johnson was being grilled and there was the vote on the stormont brexit winds , a stormont brexit winds, a framework. so i say a being slightly cynical that that was a really good day to hide bad news. he didn't come out of it too badly, did he? despite the fact that he had 5 million quid in three years a. really good day for that. not to get as much attention as would have done on, let's face it, any other day. but he chose a massive news day. bofis but he chose a massive news day. boris johnson being grilled by the privileges committee, the windsor framework vote. so it didn't get that much attention. but i think what's surprising in a way we all know that he and his wife are massively wealthy, potentially richer than king

charles. his wife's specifically. but i suppose the fact that independent of his wife he's also very well—off but of course he came from a in the city he made lot of money before came into politics. and i mean, it sparked an interesting debate about the fact that his tax rate effectively is about 22. so much lower than many people would pay- lower than many people would pay. other people . when you come pay. other people. when you come back on next, i think your one on the next hour. can we talk about the keir then released his tax return. we didn't have time to do that we didn't have time to do that we didn't have time to start being in the hairdressers. we run of hairdressers. we run out of time right? catherine forster that. okay, let me know what you think about of this. gb views at about all of this. gb views at gb news dot uk is the email this afternoon. of afternoon. so the head of the bank has said that he bank of england has said that he is more for the uk economy is much more for the uk economy is much more for the uk economy is interest were raised is interest rates were raised their years. this their highest for 14 years. this decision lift rates to 4.25% decision to lift rates to 4.25% from 4% came after the inflation rate rose unexpectedly to some

last month. but what all of this mean for the pennies your pocket? so joining me now is economist andrew co. good afternoon, andrew you know , this afternoon, andrew you know, this rise in interest rates was to some extent reaction. correct me if i'm wrong to the federal bank in america. also so raising interest rates. is that relevant here in the uk? what does that mean for how we move forward in the next year of what's happening globally ? well, the happening globally? well, the fed the fed raise rates, but i don't think that that was key reason why the bank england was raising rates. i think that the bank of england was in a rising cycle for some considerable time. inflation is long, way above still over 10% above target, still over 10% versus 2% target. it's scheduled to fall quite rapidly . the bank to fall quite rapidly. the bank felt that it was needed to get inflation down and the real economy variables were looking a bit stronger than they had. so it felt it had the confidence to continue to raise rates. despite

that problems in the banking sector. so i think that that's the right way of thinking things. we have a stronger than expected real economy , so gdp expected real economy, so gdp isn't going to shrink contract as much as the bank of england had feared might. and the output , the outlook for unemployment , , the outlook for unemployment, it's pretty good wages seem to rise fairly rapidly . so the bank rise fairly rapidly. so the bank felt that it needed to raise rates in order to bear on inflation. does that make any sense , though, andrew, from an sense, though, andrew, from an economic point of view and what i mean by that on my weekly morning show with liam halligan , we often discuss this inflation normally a consequence , people feeling quite like they have a lot of disposable income, so they're spending. we have a very busy economy, a very hot economy and raising the interest rates, calls down a little. people don't feel like that at the moment. that isn't the reason that we have this inflation, is it . and don't we inflation, is it. and don't we need people to feel that they have more money in their pockets and spending huge amounts on and not spending huge amounts on

their that can their mortgages so that we can get economy growing again get the economy growing again and keep these businesses particularly i'm thinking hospitality and travel, for instance . well, i think it's instance. well, i think it's rather opposite. it's more that the inflation is high . we need the inflation is high. we need to get the inflation down and one way in which the bank wants to get the inflation down is by making people feel poorer so that they spend less. it's more of that, that direction. it's not as we're in a situation in which the inflation is about at the right level and so therefore we need to worry about and keeping economy going a bit keeping the economy going a bit faster. inflation is way above the target and it's been well above target for a long time. i that i would say, though, is that i would say, though, is that i would say, though, is that i the bank that i think that the bank didn't actually need to raise rates on this occasion because i think it had already done enough with the things it had done before. growth is before. monetary growth is already below 4% in the uk. and so that's likely to be a reasonably good indicator what's going to happen out ahead of in the months , the year, 18 months the months, the year, 18 months ahead and. it seems to me that

the bank's already enough and inflation is likely to come down very rapidly. the bank itself thinks that, but i think it'll probably slightly more probably come down slightly more rapidly at least rapidly than they, at least on the term and so i think the medium term and so i think that they that they probably could have justified a pause now. i also think that this is probably the last rise for some time . that doesn't mean that time. that doesn't mean that interest rates are going to suddenly start to fall rapidly or that won't get higher. or that they won't get higher. it might that they pause it might be that that they pause at level or, you know, one at this level or, you know, one or two minor cuts from this level for a couple of years, and then maybe they'll up to 6% or something if the economy picks up at these the interest rates that we have now, although they might high by, the might seem very high by, the standards the past decade or standards of the past decade or so are actually quite low. they would the kinds of interest would be the kinds of interest that went back or 20 that if you went back or 20 years, you'd have a social with a period of economic downturn and recession. and you wouldn't think of these as interest rates. somehow very rates. that was somehow very high down on high and bearing down on inflation. these would be the low interest rates that you

would use boost economy. so i would use to boost economy. so i think if think that we shouldn't that if the to go a bit the economy starts to go a bit faster with the interest rates are going go up further again are going to go up further again and people need need to and people need to need to understand they're making understand when they're making the household the decisions, their household lending, borrowing and lending, it's borrowing and mortgages and so on that the kind of interest rates, environment that we've had for the and more is it the past decades and more is it was a very special and unusual period. it was emergency levels following great financial following the great financial crisis the global financial crisis and the global financial crisis, and that's not likely to come back soon. going come back time soon. i'm going to be talking to a mortgage adviser in just a moment. if you're watching have got you're watching and you have got questions about, your mortgage, we going to talking to we are going to be talking to somebody moment about somebody in just moment about that. wondering, though, that. and i'm wondering, though, andrew, you that andrew, we people, you said that about that, you know, about the fact that, you know, people little people need to feel little poorer to bring that poorer in order to bring that inflation . down a very difficult inflation. down a very difficult one for the government, isn't it? because to some extent, with an election in probably 18 months, they need to have an electorate that doesn't poor. in fact , going electorate that doesn't poor. in fact, going to electorate that doesn't poor. in fact , going to get twitter poll fact, going to get twitter poll this morning asking our our

audience they feel audience if they do feel well—off now they a couple well—off now than they a couple of years ago . how did the of years ago. how did the government manage ? because there government manage? because there isn't a huge amount of time to make people feel that they have more in their pockets and thereby win an election. so what exactly that playing out? well so. well, that's exactly right. and some of the things the government tried to do, of course, were to cancel some rises in national insurance and it income tax rates at the lower end.so it income tax rates at the lower end. so it's been trying to make people feel like it's going in the right direction. the reality, of course, is with pubuc reality, of course, is with public spending. so absolutely unprecedented . and high levels unprecedented. and high levels of public spending, the very obvious reason since we're no longer in covid and tax rates are actually going to go up. so these kinds of measures which are engaging in a very cosmetic if wanted to have if they really wanted to have people more that governments tend to do a bit better when the economy growing something like

18 months before for an election they'll do better if the economy was already doing fairly for the penod was already doing fairly for the period little bit in advance. if you don't manage to get the economy growing until only the few months an election, then governments often don't do quite so well. so we saw that, for example, 1979 or in 1997, the example, in 1979 or in 1997, the government got absolutely pasty despite doing very despite the economy doing very well that i think well. so i think that i think that the tories position is very, very on the economy. it is. andrew, one more quick question. i do have move on. question. i do have to move on. we saw valley bank go. we saw silicon valley bank go. we saw silicon valley bank go. we suisse bailed we saw credit suisse get bailed out. be worried out. should people be worried about money that they have about the money that they have in bank accounts right now ? in bank accounts right now? well, at some level , in bank accounts right now? well, at some level, you should always have a concern about the set in your bank account. so a bank, a completely safe thing, buying by its very nature. so people should always apply a prudent level concern to faith that money's banks. but that money's in their banks. but it's that uk it's worth saying that uk banking sector hasn't had any particular issues so far. banking sector hasn't had any particular issues so far . so particular issues so far. so these are the problems that had have been associated with. then

us banks. and then there are longstanding issues with credit suisse. and then now with deutsche bank which have coming in europe on. the other hand though, with interest rates at this level. so households had to adjust to very low rates and have probably made some mistakes . the period and financial institutions have done as well. we saw that with problem with the pipes and sector last autumn and it may be that in due course with higher interest rates, that does mean that some chickens coming terms of the coming to roost in terms of the uk financial sector as well. but for now there is no evidence of anything going there. anything going on there. okay, good, for now . hope you're good, good. for now. hope you're right, andrew. i set out a certain principle of your economics. dr. andrew so economics. dr. andrew lilly. so what for home or what does this mean for home or anybody wanting to buy a house? mortgage adviser and broker sally mitchell joins now. sally mitchell joins me now. hello, . well, now , i don't hello, sally. well, now, i don't want this to turn into an individual obsession because i have this problem, i won't be alone . there will be people at alone. there will be people at the moment who came off mortgage rates just the interest rates

went up. i am one of those people. what you advise us to do now ? do we go on to something now? do we go on to something fixed then watch the interest rate fall down in the next five years? or do we go onto something flexible and then watch the interest rate go up? what do we do? yeah it's really difficult to give a blanket response. i'm afraid . it really response. i'm afraid. it really is as individual as you are. everybody's situation slightly different. the best thing to do is get some good advice, which is get some good advice, which is why you use a broker. but i would say that and look at your individual circumstance is fixing. you can fix for two years three, five, seven, ten if you want to. it really depends on your affordability , what on your affordability, what you're trying to achieve, what your long term plans and goals are as well. you know , you're are as well. you know, you're going to be moving, looking , going to be moving, looking, maybe downsizing or upsize . then maybe downsizing or upsize. then you don't want to be quite into a contract for too long. so what

are the what was what are the best of rates that people can get now ? sally and compare that get now? sally and compare that if you would , what you could if you would, what you could get. so let's even little as get. so let's say even little as six months ago yeah it's changed so much and we now refer to those rates as covid rates . we those rates as covid rates. we said a really nice catch all for them. now we were saying things at just under 1% not very long ago. it was crazy. and of course as andrew was saying, people got used to it. they think that's normal and it's not. if you look the history of rates in you know they were unprecedented that we had mini—budget that really fuelled the fire and fixed rate mortgages is just went through the roof instead of 2.4% you were looking at over 6% and that was pretty much overnight. and in fact even before they went up, thousands of products were taken off the market overnight because lenders had to withdraw , re—evaluate, relaunch and

reprice. and of course, the pnces reprice. and of course, the prices came out at afterwards were much, much higher. prices came out at afterwards were much, much higher . since were much, much higher. since then, things have changed slightly sally was talking to somebody that was in property this week and they were saying they're working on predictions that average house price go that the average house price go down by about 10% in the next. now we've had in the uk think isn't it. hasn't we, haven't we worked off the principle that it increased doubles in price every ten years. but that was very much a 1990 2000 phenomenon. what are your predictions now for the property market, would you say in the next couple of years? well, we are expecting to drop by about 10% overall. there will still be hotspots which are not affected . and of course, to not affected. and of course, to make that average of 10, there will be areas of the country where it's slower it's worse . where it's slower it's worse. the historic data is that, yes exactly that quote that you know

, doubles every ten years. but we have very times in the last 20 or 30 years and in the housing market, what i i'd like to say is that if it does drop by 10, then that only takes us back to the that we were at the beginning of 2021. so we have to not panic it into a little bit of perspective . these things are of perspective. these things are cyclical. you know the markets go up. they go down and we just happen be on a downward trajectory the moment yeah yeah and a state of flux doesn't it feels for everybody professionally, personally , on professionally, personally, on a micro level, all of our own bank accounts where we all would there's a lot of uncertainty in what we can invest, there's a lot of uncertainty in what we can invest , etc. and there's a lot of uncertainty in what we can invest, etc. and on a macro level, well, as we've heard today, still a lot uncertainty. but thank you so much. mortgage broker there, sally mitchell. right on twitter. i've been asking you, do you worse than at do you feel worse off than at the of , 2020? the beginning of, 2020? of course, it was the three year anniversary lockdowns this anniversary of lockdowns this week. i know week. and so i want to know whether you feel that you've got less money in your pocket , got

less money in your pocket, got less money in your pocket, got less disposable income. now you did say the beginning of 2020 and all twitter poll shows that at the moment eight 1% of you feel worse off in spring 2023 than you did in spring 2020. that's really significant , isn't that's really significant, isn't it? okay. keep your votes coming on that twitter poll and email me as well, vaiews@gbnews.uk . me as well, vaiews@gbnews.uk. you are watching and listening to jb news saturday with me. bev turner. lots more to come on today's show. founded in 1123, london's old west hospital celebrates its 19th hundredth birthday . celebrates its 19th hundredth birthday. reporter lisa hartle has been there to find out more about this historic monument to health care. first of all, though, here's your very important and hopefully a little nicer weather . hello as we go nicer weather. hello as we go through the rest this saturday, we will have some sunny , but we will have some sunny, but also quite a few showers to watch out for. and then later tonight , watch out for. and then later tonight, it's going to turn wet and windy in the south. that's because weather system because of this weather system that's currently waiting out the atlantic. can see at the

atlantic. you can see at the moment low fairly moment we have low fairly nearby. that's it's nearby. that's why it's a blustery for many blustery showery start for many little bit a ridge of high little bit of a ridge of high pressure building go pressure building as we go through this morning. and so that's why things are turning a little bit more settled, perhaps as a closer through as we take a closer through saturday afternoon, some showery rain south—west rain across parts of south—west scotland lining, down towards the england . and the southeast of england. and there be showery there will also be some showery elsewhere, can see some elsewhere, too. you can see some showers pushing in across northern scotland and northern parts of scotland and a few the south, though few towards the south, though here the sunshine is going here where the sunshine is going to greatest. but temperatures to be greatest. but temperatures in with the not doing in the south with the not doing too badly, a little bit above average for time of year average for the time of year with 14 15 celsius with highs of 14 or 15 celsius later on, we are going to see then wet and windy weather then this wet and windy weather mentioned earlier pushing initially parts of devon initially across parts of devon and cornwall, then across and cornwall, but then across into of wales, across into parts of wales, across other central parts other southern and central parts of little bit of of england, a little bit of uncertainty as how north uncertainty as to how far north this rain's to get. and it this rain's going to get. and it could be quite heavy, perhaps up to millimetres in some to 30 millimetres in some places. could cause some places. so could cause some localised in south localised problems. in the south we see temperatures we are going to see temperatures staying quite mild but a cold start sunday morning in the start on sunday morning in the north of the northerly

north because of the northerly flow to to some north because of the northerly florpatches to to some north because of the northerly florpatches where to some north because of the northerly florpatches where we to some north because of the northerly florpatches where we have some icy patches where we have some wintry in south. we wintry showers in the south. we are to see that wet are going to see that wet weather clearing go weather clearing away. we go through sunday so through sunday morning. so a dner through sunday morning. so a drier into the afternoon, but it is cloudier than is going to be cloudier than today. further north, some brighter spells mixed with those wintry cold a wintry showers, but a cold a theme because a northerly theme because of a northerly wind down. so wind pushing down. so temperatures for many markedly lower are today as we lower than they are today as we go the end of the day on go through the end of the day on sunday, most places stage generally dry, still some generally dry, but still some showers coming on that northerly wind risk, wintry ones wind risk, some wintry ones across scotland . again, across parts of scotland. again, the of some ice we go the risk of some ice as we go sunday and for many, it sunday night. and for many, it going a colder night going to be a colder night leading a fairly frosty start on morning. otherwise, monday does look generally dry, but cold with temperatures then picking up through the week more up through the week but more unsettled .

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news afternoon. it's 1231. i'm bethany elsey in the gb newsroom the head of the fire brigade union is calling for mass non—cooperation with the government's new empty strike. the minimum service level bill would give ministers power to force union members key sectors to work , strike days or face to work, strike days or face losing their jobs. if b you general secretary matt wrack says the bill is one of the most draconian attacks on the rights of working people in decades , of working people in decades, three men have been jailed and over £35,000 worth of cocaine and heroin seized in a major operation by the met police in westminster side cattle mac daniels and lloyd brown have beenin daniels and lloyd brown have been in prison for a combined total of 17 years. their charges include the supplying of class a drugs and possessing firearms. the met has arrested over 3000 county line offenders . since

county line offenders. since november 2019. one of britain's leading retail consultant has warned john lewis group faces a battle to regain its soul. mary portas has published an open letter to sharon white following the news she was considering ending the employee owned business structure to attract outside investment. john lewis which employs 80,000 workers, has also warned of potential job cuts and said it won't give staff a bonus for only the second time since 1953. gwyneth paltrow has testified she initially she was being initially thought she was being sexually after a collision with a retired doctor on a ski slope in utah back in 2006.76 year old terry sanderson is accusing the oscar winning actress crashing into him and says he's living with a permanent traumatic brain injury as a result. he's suing for damages with a quarter of £1,000,000. but ms. paltrow denies the allegations and says can't be held responsible . you're up to

held responsible. you're up to date , tv online and dvb plus date, tv online and dvb plus radio. this is gb news. now it's back to beth . back to beth. lots more still to come this morning . getting your views as morning. getting your views as well in moment. so keep them coming. gb views at gb news uk. but first of all, some parts hospital in london is celebrating 900th anniversary today as part of milestone. the hospital is undertaking several projects including a new breast cancer centre and preservation work . some of the oldest parts work. some of the oldest parts of the building . you are about of the building. you are about to see and hear footage , heart to see and hear footage, heart surgery which some viewers and listeners may find distressing. lisa hartle has more. st barts , lisa hartle has more. st barts, britain's oldest hospital founded in 1123. today renowned for its work in cancer treatment .hean for its work in cancer treatment . heart surgery. former surgeon gynaecologist to the late queen sir marcus setchell is the deputy of st barts heritage

fundraising to preserve the historical of the hospital. they didn't actually have doctors in the early years and 1123. they were really nuns . the from the were really nuns. the from the priory and nurses but they weren't fide nurses. they were carers basically. but i think it's long history is a very important part of it. a £10 million conservation project is underway part of the 900th anniversary restoring items this william hogarth painting back to the 1730s. in the 18th century they started undertake first medical procedures, the first operations which can imagine at that time was quite terrifying thing because there wasn't anaesthetic anything like that . anaesthetic anything like that. behind us on hogarth's painting you can see a group of figures who represent the patients of the hospital with various

diseases and ailments , including diseases and ailments, including a blind man , a stick. and that's a blind man, a stick. and that's a blind man, a stick. and that's a reminder that the hospital actually appointed its first eye surgeon in 1720 so medical were happening medical education was changing. and from the 18 century onwards , the hospital century onwards, the hospital began to develop into what we really know today as a modern hospital . but it's one of the hospital. but it's one of the leading heart. hospitals in, the world. chief surgeon stephen edmondson has been a st barts for over 40 years, but barts has always a tradition of excellence. it was very clear me when i came here that he had that tradition and it hasn't illustrious history. but i think we're very now centred and grounded the here and the now, and we're doing really good work now that's innovative . what try now that's innovative. what try to do is do the basic stuff extremely well but the thing that boxes on top of that is it innovates so we have specialist programmes that sometimes are unique to barts and that's been the way in my role as clinical

director i've tried to develop the service and i think of the single that typifies barts above excellence. it is the culture that we of striving all the to do the best for our patients . a do the best for our patients. a breast cancer treatment is also being built as part of the 900th anniversary campaign . we will anniversary campaign. we will have surgery from the breast surgeons to plastic surgeons all on one side so that so that more challenging breast surgery can be done , for example, doing be done, for example, doing reconstructions immediately for patients to have a choice what reconstruction they have at the time with the preservation and innovation at st barts staff hope the iconic hospital will to serve generations to come. lisa hartle gb news london. amazing. it's nice to see something we can be proud of, isn't it? now you've been getting in touch with your thoughts about our current economic situation. deirdre says, bev, we have an interest mortgage we interest only mortgage and we are struggling. all mortgage has gone up £500 to almost £1,000. i

don't know how much longer. we can continue it. you are not alone, deirdre . minus just alone, deirdre. minus just quadrupled mortgage. and in a way , i wanted to talk to sally way, i wanted to talk to sally mitchell and get some individual. but she's right. seek out a mortgage broker, i think would be to suggest john and get some individual advice tailored to your individual needs. alone. will needs. but are not alone. will says , i knew what was coming says, i knew what was coming after furlough cheques were being so everyone being handed out, so everyone was out to help out. i was eating out to help out. i saved for the current storm, you know. well, there's a few people are doing that, particularly some of the younger people i was talking to in the office today who to save a to get on who managed to save a to get on the property during lockdown and made some canny financial decisions. to. some decisions. so you were to. some people to people have managed to save a little egg. anthea said little nest egg. anthea said money wise . i am substantially money wise. i am substantially worse off. all thanks to inflation. limited by the ridiculous printing of astronomical amounts of money dunng astronomical amounts of money during covid. at least i can leave my house when i want to

again. you're right. anthea and greg. the interest rates we have now are due to the government's reaction the pandemic. the reaction to the pandemic. the government higher government calls the higher inflation, the consumers. inflation, not the consumers. and trying to catch and now we are trying to catch up wait increases, etc. the up with wait increases, etc. the pubuc up with wait increases, etc. the public caused public haven't caused the inflation, get the blame inflation, but we get the blame . you're very sensible at this .you're very sensible at this time. on a saturday on your views coming in. subscribe also to our youtube . we are at gb to our youtube. we are at gb news now you are watching a missing gb news saturday with bev turner. plenty more still to come this afternoon, including rishi sunak brexit deal for northern ireland. the windsor framework has been formally signed off . framework has been formally signed off. i'm going to be discussing that. but first of all, let's take a quick break. see you .

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and listening to gb news saturday with me, bev turner. so which is the next brexit deal? northern ireland was formally off at a meeting in london after a conservative rebellion against the deal failed this week. james cleverly, the foreign secretary, adopted new arrangements for northern ireland at a meeting with european commission . with the european commission. this comes, of course, after the minister won the backing of his mp for the windsor framework. so to discuss this , the chair of to discuss this, the chair of the conservatives in, northern ireland, matthew robin . good ireland, matthew robin. good morning, matthew . ireland, matthew robin. good morning, matthew. i'm rishi sunak hailed this new arrangement, this new that wins arrangement, this new that wins a framework gave it a sort of royal stamp of approval, didn't they, with that. with that particular name. and then it sort the detail of it became and there were lots of people . there were lots of people. namely the dup those people in northern ireland who feel committed to northern ireland being part of the uk and not part of the eu who were very unhappy it. nevertheless unhappy about it. nevertheless it's got through. where does

this us where does it leave this us now? where does it leave northern? well good to be with you . say from the outset as you. say from the outset as a conservative and a unionist, i welcome this deal. i think the uk government deserves credit of the concessions that they've got from the european commission here. no sell off needed to be even remotely possible matter of months ago . so i think one months ago. so i think one northern ireland is right now and was an overwhelming vote in parliament across all parties leaves i think leaves are in a position we have further unfettered and rightfully so to the uk market. but we have a total centre access . the total centre access. the european single market, the competitive economic advantage that ireland can grasp with that type of is huge and i go and while yes there have been

legitimate concerns within unionism, especially with regard said ecj site, i think the stormont goes a long way to address some of that, gives a devolved parliament an incredible amount of power and incredible amount of power and in the scheme in the scheme of things. but if in my view if we were safeguard northern ireland's position constitutionally in the united kingdom for the next generation, the generation after that we've got to ensure ireland's a thriving union, a dynamic place that. thriving union, a dynamic place that . people want to stay and that. people want to stay and build a and raise a family. and what i worry about is if we continue in this perpetual cycle of division and you know, it was only a few years ago where sinn collapses assembly nor the of collapses assembly nor the of collapses assembly nor the of collapses assembly it comes at a cost and the costs of that is the future viability of governance in northern ireland. so i would encourage our

partners and our friends in the democratic unionist party look again at this this deal and get behind it. obviously, people , behind it. obviously, people, the dup and others would say you've just written off 200 years of history is now turned into a sort of nostalgia for which there is no place, the modern world. how would you respond that? well i think northern ireland being on a separate islands has always always been a little different with within the uk framework . with within the uk framework. just if you if you look at standards and like that, the brexit always going to pose issues with the good friday agreement with regards to ensuring an open border on the island of ireland. what the protocol attempted to do and failed to an extent of i think what the windsor framework no ensures . is what the windsor framework no ensures. is that that north—south border remains open as it . but north—south border remains open as it. but east west this border

that existed . and in the irish that existed. and in the irish sea is effectively removed that in degree the green lane ensuring that goods coming from gb into northern ireland are not subject to any checks is it is a great win for the uk government. it shouldn't have had to take this . people were it shouldn't have had to take this. people were long it shouldn't have had to take this . people were long calling this. people were long calling for european commission to come to that conclusion and at yeah, i'd certainly myself and i know there's advocated for these technical solutions but i, i know lawrence place constitution is safe safeguarded only people that can change that are the people of northern ireland virtue of a of a democratic referendum. northern ireland remains an integral and constitutional part of all of united kingdom . all it has now, united kingdom. all it has now, in my view, is unfettered access into two incredible markets . and into two incredible markets. and this is this can only in my view and the business community by the way understood as a as a as

a win win for win win for province and unionism needs to wake up to that if and i repeat what i said before if we continue this cycle of division of collapsed government it is going to turn off younger more moderate voters. i to unionism in northern ireland and potentially push them into the nationalist camp . we're already nationalist camp. we're already seeing a drift to the neutral a lyons party in northern ireland and from from unionism more division. i think it only helps cause politically i want to see unionism capitalise on on this i think it do that by getting behind deal and encouraging direct investment into northern ireland with this type of access both into the uk market and the european single market. but of course would say that the stormont brake might look quite nice on paper. it's one of these

political sort of tinkering which feels like it sort of gives with one hand and it takes with the other. giving the illusion of power to northern ireland. whereas actually they still have to go cap in hand the eu then this the steps that eu and then this the steps that will need to be taken through to get ultimately what want . get ultimately what they want. they're beholden to . i they're still beholden to. i think the, the stormont by the way, the still a great exists in some form with other relationships with , third party relationships with, third party countries. the difference here for northern ireland is , the for northern ireland is, the amount of power it gives a devolved regional parliament beyond the traditional, a national parliaments. i think it puts so many did incredibly powerful position. i mean, i would say right now there's not a lot of divergence in rules between the uk . and the eu. so between the uk. and the eu. so i mean some of these issues on aren't hugely problematic right now . no, we can aren't hugely problematic right now. no, we can predict aren't hugely problematic right now . no, we can predict the now. no, we can predict the future diverge is inevitable to

an extent, but it will be up to parties northern ireland to make a determination of that going forward . i certainly think where forward. i certainly think where we are right now , it's good we are right now, it's good place. there's been eu concession offer concession especially as it relates to some tax issues, state aid . i think tax issues, state aid. i think the green line will ensure ease of and ease of travel goods coming from gb and into and i so okay , we'll see. we'll see how okay, we'll see. we'll see how the stormont brake works in practise but it's unlike else that the eu has ever offered a third party saw the uk government deserves credit and security . okay. all right thank security. okay. all right thank you matthew. matthew and the chairman of northern ireland, conservatives. the idea that we had brexit and then we're still thanking the eu for giving us these concessions will anyways discuss the business side of all this is roger pollard. roger is

the head of the federation of small businesses in northern ireland. good roger. hopefully ireland. good roger. i hopefully heard the conversation that was had then. this idea that this is more done, this is moving forward, this is not pandering to nostalgia of 200 years of irish history any more. this is a forward looking plan that will help the businesses of northern ireland. is that right? well, the first thing is that the fsb doesn't get involved in constitutional matters, and that's our constituency is drawn from right across the whole population of people. our members business owners and members are business owners and so we speak on behalf of on those issues . the point you those issues. the point you make, the whole thing is very you we've got to to you know, we've got to look to see from and how have we see we come from and how have we got to here the protocol was done business. it wasn't done done to business. it wasn't done with business and it caused a lot of problems. i suppose to their eu and the their credit, the eu and the uk have both long time now, have both spent a long time now, the last few months to business understanding problems understanding what the problems and of developed solutions and then of developed solutions . now we're looking to see which

is a bit like i'm sure you've apologised at some point in the past an inch past and you've gone an inch you've seen. yes, it's got the right rooms, got all right number of rooms, got all the you want in that the things that you want in that house, you're happy with the place hands and then you place you hands and then you walk it's only the start walk away. it's only the start of it's to of the process then it's over to your lawyer seller's lawyer your lawyer and seller's lawyer to the detail and to work through the detail and see exactly what it is that you're getting. and i think that's where at the that's where we're at at the moment. that matthew moment. the picture that matthew there was much there painted was very much echoing the very optimistic scene rishi set scene that rishi sunak had set out. but we still need to see shows that actually go to translate the of the that translate into the of the that businesses will work by. and i suppose one final point on that is we've spent 45 years where i think britain has become very well known for gold plating rules that came out europe rules that came out of europe it, took rules and then it, took the rules and then added and strengthened added them and strengthened them and the and made them absolutely the best rules could have. we best rules you could have. we need to see that rolled need to see that process rolled back. see the back. we need to see the lightest touch of rules governing the process of goods between britain and northern ireland, because at the moment we're on we're seeking detail on how that's going operate . the

that's going to operate. the green line sounds very attractive, but we don't actually how going actually know how it's going to work. that first work. so need to see that first before can give it before we can give it wholehearted endorsement and be enthusiast about it and that's interesting to hear that you don't feel that you want to sign the detail of that, but of course it got voted through this week, you know, not unanimously, overwhelmingly in parliament. do you think those employees know the detail of this or do they just not really care? from a business point of view , no, i business point of view, no, i think they the detail of what they voted on, but they were only voting on the stormont brake , which is one tiny part of brake, which is one tiny part of this we've got to see how does the entire system and we sat down with hmrc just i think the day after rishi sunak made the announcement windsor announcement of the windsor framework, sat time with them framework, we sat time with them with and there were 20 with others and there were 20 questions business. questions submitted by business. business organisations. we're still waiting the answers to still waiting for the answers to those questions. i wrote to hmrc again at beginning of this again at the beginning of this week that like to week to say that we'd like to see answers to those see the answers to those questions we'd also like a questions and we'd also like a sense what's the timescale so sense of what's the timescale so

that you're going be that you're going to be operating for on the consultation sadly we consultation process. sadly we haven't to haven't yet had a response to that. waiting to see that. so still waiting to see what be consulted and what will be consulted and process like. how will they process look like. how will they understand all issues understand all the issues that need and then when need to be sorted. and then when will come forward the will we come forward with the detail as to how those going detail as to how those are going to implemented? just to be implemented? so just optimistic, cautious are not not being about it. yeah being naive about it. yeah absolutely. and that that tends to attitude putting to put attitude is putting northern good stead northern ireland in good stead for if you had to for many years. if you had to sum up the skills that you need. how bad is it for businesses overin how bad is it for businesses over in northern ireland at moment, just like the mainland ? moment, just like the mainland? imagine you're dealing with huge utility increase capital gains, corporation tax , incoming high corporation tax, incoming high burden labour short which same sorts of problems that we're experiencing here. it's very much the same sort of problems. i think those are all if you like uk wide issues that you're touching on there. there's not a devolved aspect to most of those, but i would say that there's also a huge degree of positivity despite despite that catalogue of problems ,

catalogue of problems, challenges that you outlined there. i was in washington last week was meeting there week and i was meeting there with joe kennedy , who's with senator joe kennedy, who's going coming across here going to be coming across here as economic and he tells as the us economic and he tells me that he has a pipeline of businesses wanting to come and invest in northern ireland as soon as he and running soon as he gets up and running in similarly, we have in the role. similarly, we have a of businesses within a lot of businesses here within the small businesses the federation, small businesses who looking the who are actively looking at the us as number one export us as as their number one export market. so we're going to see a lot of two way trade taking off in few weeks and months in the next few weeks and months from here. think businesses from here. so i think businesses in confident in a cautious but confident place at the moment. and i think we just need to try and remove all of the uncertainty that doesn't need to be there. and that's i calling for the that's where i calling for the detail around implementation detail around the implementation or to that. or framework is central to that. okay. thank you roger okay. all right. thank you roger basulto there. roger the head of the of small the federation of small businesses ireland. the federation of small busines watching ireland. the federation of small busineswatching , ireland. the federation of small busineswatching , listening nd. the federation of small busineswatching , listening to. you are watching, listening to gb news saturday with me, bev turner lots more coming up on the this afternoon, the show this afternoon, including us including a story that rocked us all baroness cases all this week. baroness cases report into the met police fail

links and i want to know if you'll still trust the police force. it was a huge amounts of chaos, wasn't there, about the fact that it's racist, homophobic , misogynistic. does homophobic, misogynistic. does that matter to you as long as they catch the baddies. first of all, let's take a look at the weather with burkill. hello as weather with burkill. hello as we go through the rest of this saturday, we will have some sunny spells, but also a few showers watch for. and showers to watch out for. and then later tonight, is going then later tonight, it is going to and windy in the to turn wet and windy in the south. because of this south. that's because of this weather currently weather system that's currently waiting atlantic. waiting out in the atlantic. you can moment we have can see at the moment we have low fairly nearby. low pressure fairly nearby. that's why it's a blustery showery start many. a little showery start for many. a little bit a ridge high pressure bit of a ridge high pressure building through this building as we go through this morning. and so why morning. and so that's why things little bit things are turning little bit more settled, perhaps as we take a look through saturday a closer look through saturday afternoon, some showery rain across south—west across parts of south—west scotland towards scotland lining down towards south—east and there south—east of england. and there also showery outbreaks also be some showery outbreaks elsewhere can see some elsewhere, too. you can see some showers in across showers pushing in across northern of scotland and northern parts of scotland and a few south, though, few towards the south, though, here, the sunshine here, that's where the sunshine is to be greatest. is going to be greatest. temperatures the south the temperatures the south with the sunshine doing too badly, sunshine not doing too badly, a little average the

little bit above average for the time with highs of or time of year with highs of 14 or 15 celsius later on. we are to see then this wet and windy weather i mentioned earlier pushing parts pushing initially across parts of cornwall, then of devon and cornwall, but then across of wales , across into parts of wales, across into parts of wales, across other southern and central parts of england. little bit uncertainty far bit of uncertainty as to how far north this rain's going to get and it could be quite heavy up to 30 millimetres in some places. so could cause some localised in south. localised problems in the south. we temperatures we all can see temperatures staying quite mild colder staying quite mild but a colder start the start on sunday morning in the north because of the northerly flow leading to perhaps icy flow leading to perhaps some icy patches some wintry patches where we some wintry showers the we are showers in the south, we are going see that wet weather going to see that wet weather clearing away we go through clearing away as we go through sunday a theme sunday morning. so a theme into the but it is going the afternoon, but it is going to cloudier than today. to be cloudier than today. further brighter further north, some brighter spells with wintry spells mixed with those wintry showers, colder thing showers, but a colder thing because a northerly wind because of a northerly wind down. so temperatures for many market lower than they are today as we go through the end of the day on, sunday, most places staying generally dry, but still some showers coming down. that northerly risk some northerly wind risk of some wintry parts wintry ones across parts of scotland risk of scotland. again, the risk of some as we go through sunday

some ice as we go through sunday night. and for many it is going to be a night leading to be a colder night leading into a frosty start on into a fairly frosty start on monday otherwise, monday morning. otherwise, monday morning. otherwise, monday generally dry monday does look generally dry but with temperatures then but cold with temperatures then picking week. but picking up through the week. but unsettled .

hello, good afternoon. thanks for joining me on this saturday. sunny outside, i think there's no windows here, but i can see a little glimpse of sunshine. may bev turner you haven't overslept monday. i'm keeping you company for we've got. for the next 2 hours. we've got. still come, we're going still to come, we're going to be looking that casey looking at that baroness casey report into the met police from earlier the week that made earlier in the week that made the headlines, it. racist the headlines, didn't it. racist misogynistic and homophobic were just of the conclusions just some of the conclusions that casey came to about that dwane casey came to about the police. but do you care the met police. but do you care about issues as as about those issues as long as they're solving getting

they're solving crimes getting search gb views at gb news dot uk . but first it's the news uk. but first it's the news headunes uk. but first it's the news headlines with . bias. thank you. headlines with. bias. thank you. good afternoon. it's 1:01. headlines with. bias. thank you. good afternoon. it's1:01. i'm bethany elsey with top stories from the newsroom . the head of from the newsroom. the head of the fire brigade union calling for mass non—cooperation if the government's new anti strike laws, the minimum service bill would give ministers the to force certain in union in key sectors to on strike days off losing their jobs. if the eu general secretary matt wrack says the bill is one of the most draconian attacks, the rights of working people in, he's urging the trades union congress to hold emergency meeting to launch joint strategy to resist the legislation basically force workers to picket lines which are being manned their colleagues. i. i think it is

completely on principle and unethical and i'm just don't think it would work. the idea that workers are going to be strong armed into breaking a strike that they've voted for, i think is just fanciful. so in the end, i think bill certainly is a good bill and it's going to inflame situation in my view , inflame situation in my view, make the strike even worse . two make the strike even worse. two teenage boys have been charged with , the murder of a 16 year with, the murder of a 16 year old who was stabbed to death in northampton. rowan shand, known as fred, died following the attack on wednesday afternoon in the 14 and 16 year old boys who can't be named for legal reasons will appear before northampton magistrates court . three men magistrates court. three men have been jailed over £35,000 worth of cocaine and heroin seized in a major operation by the met police in westminster. seth gatto, max daniels and lloyd brown have been imprisoned . a combined total of 75 years. their charges include the supplying of class—a and possessing a firearm . the met

possessing a firearm. the met has arrested 3000 county line offenders since november 2015. london city hall staff will no longer have access to tiktok on their work devices . the greater their work devices. the greater london authority says . it takes london authority says. it takes information security extremely seriously . it follows similar seriously. it follows similar bans imposed government ministers in westminster and in the scottish government . tiktok, the scottish government. tiktok, which is owned by chinese internet company bytedance , internet company bytedance, argues it doesn't share data with china and says these bans are based on fundamental misconceptions . gwyneth paltrow misconceptions. gwyneth paltrow has testified she initially thought she was being sexually assault , but thought she was being sexually assault, but after a collision with a retired on a ski slope in, utah, back in 2016, 76 year old terry sanders is accusing the oscar winning actress of crashing into him and, says he's living with a permanent traumatic brain injury as a

result . he's suing for damages result. he's suing for damages worth quarter of £1,000,000. but ms. paltrow denies the allegations and, says she can't be held responsible . i was be held responsible. i was skiing . two skis came between skiing. two skis came between skis forcing legs apart. and then there was a body pressing against. and there was a very strange grunting noise . so my strange grunting noise. so my brain was trying make sense of what was happening. i thought, am i. is this a practical joke ? am i. is this a practical joke? is someone like doing something 7 is someone like doing something ? this is really, really strange. one of britain's leading retail consultant has warned john lewis faces a battle to regain its . mary portas has to regain its. mary portas has written an open letter to the chair white. it follows the news she's considering ending the employee owned business structure attract outside investment . john lewis, which investment. john lewis, which employs 80,000 workers has also warned of potential job cuts and said it won't give staff a bonus

for only the second time since 1953. qatar's sheikh yassin has submitted an improved offer to buy manchester united football club. a source close to the bid, says the qataris remain confident of completing a takeover. it follows a second bid from boyhood. united fans . bid from boyhood. united fans. jim ratcliffe, one of the richest people in britain , and richest people in britain, and finnish businessman thomas zilliox, is also in the race proposing to buy half the club. with fans buying other half the sale could a world record fee with current owners the glazer family . with current owners the glazer family. demanding £6 with current owners the glazer family . demanding £6 billion. family. demanding £6 billion. three fragments of ancient sculptures from the parthenon temple that have been held in the vatican. museums for more than two centuries have been returned to athens. they were handed during a special ceremony at the acropolis museum and since been placed in the parthenon gallery . the greek parthenon gallery. the greek government is hoping to recover

all original sculptures , all original sculptures, including the elgin marbles , including the elgin marbles, which are currently in the british museum , and servicemen british museum, and servicemen who helped to carry the queen's coffin in, edinburgh, are among those recognised an honours list. the royal of scotland carried the coffin st james's cathedral, to lie in rest. the chief steward , the cathedral chief steward, the cathedral also received honours under the royal victorian order recognising service to the monarch. this is gb news. so bringing monies. it happens now though it's back to beth . though it's back to beth. very good afternoon. thank you for joining me here on gb news. forjoining me here on gb news. so this saw yet another blow for the metropolitan police force after baroness casey's report highlighted misogyny, racism and all gb news poll this week

highlighted that the public's trust in the uk's police has been damaged. so joining me now is the former met police, chris hobbs. hello, chris. thank you for coming in. nice nice to see you. now you've read this whole report, which i like rather, than just taking the headlines from the paper. was it all negative about the police? it was somewhat the chief aspects of it. she she did highlight in the first part of the report problems frontline police officers . and he takes his face officers. and he takes his face through poor management lack of staff and her demand and she was sympathetic to their plight. and later on she also complimented the new trainee detectives who were being face with tasks and dufies were being face with tasks and duties that, frankly, they're not qualified to do . right. but not qualified to do. right. but she actually had some praise for them. so the first half of the first part was well—received . first part was well—received. the rest of it wasn't. and i was out on wednesday when there was a big protest in london . i spoke a big protest in london. i spoke to quite a few officers and they

dismayed and some of them are thinking of leaving. and as i thinking of leaving. and as i think we joked earlier, queensland police quickly put in an advert saying, well, if you don't. not in london, come and join us, australia. so there is a crisis , a morale crisis at the a crisis, a morale crisis at the moment among many officers without doubt. but the aspects about poor management and fact, they're being asked to do too much. the poor organisation that they thoroughly agreed with. she hit so many nails on the head with that. so they were part happy and part that now a bit miserable . well, in a way that's miserable. well, in a way that's the to some extent, i guess that's the media's fault, isn't it. the fact that all of these newspapers didn't pick up on the positive things that said positive things that she said about police picked up on about the police we picked up on the negative headlines and this idea identity politics and idea of identity politics and how important that is that you don't discriminate people. and thatis don't discriminate people. and that is important. of course it is. but do you think the public are less inclined to be preoccupied by whether a police

officer treats differently or gay people or black people differently, to, say , a straight differently, to, say, a straight white male that he might be then whether they actually solve the crime, get their stuff , take the crime, get their stuff, take the perpetrator of a of a crime to court. i think it's a combination of both. and i certainly think this report has done a lot of damage . it is so done a lot of damage. it is so negative and. the headlines have been so negative now , i think been so negative now, i think perhaps it's a sense of balance. and what they didn't the media the last ten years which i think most of the incidents that the baroness as we've seen happened over ten years. you had in that time 60,000 police officers and male police officers and staff who served in the met. that's the equivalent of the emirates stadium. so imagine that for now. imagine that you'd be up the hundreds even if it is hundreds, and it may well of bad officers who don't want and we don't want them . you are still don't want them. you are still left with a steady that's full.

you won't notice the gaps on the terraces and i think that has been overlooked. yes there are pockets of people we do not want, but there's an awful lot of people doing a fantastic job. and one other thing, one thing the baroness and i don't know the baroness and i don't know the mythology isn't there in the report . i the mythology isn't there in the report. i don't the mythology isn't there in the report . i don't know how many report. i don't know how many female officers she spoke to, but if she spoke to the ones who in the last ten years who once was the key question to was serving, the key question to me of them would have me is some of them would have had bad time. do you regard had a bad time. do you regard the overwhelming majority your male colleagues as profession untrustworthy ? now, that surely untrustworthy? now, that surely is a question that should have been put that chris is a problem with this word institution to know isn't it. institute national racism or subsequent met police commissioners have reject it that word and then subsequently sort of reluctantly accepted it . what do you make of accepted it. what do you make of that institutional because it almost sounds like it's sanctioned by the leadership

within police departments . i've within police departments. i've flown the white flag to be honest, in trying to work out exactly what it means. i think initially it came out with macpherson . it gave the macpherson. it gave the impression it still does the institutional, impression it still does the institutional , just about institutional, just about everyone is so just about everyone is so just about everyone in the organisation is racist . so that was the racist. so that was the macpherson report came the death of stephen lawrence and the police is paul condon at the moment at that i think at a time wasn't it. i think that's right, it and. i'm not convinced he it was and. i'm not convinced he a particularly good job of defending the met. yeah. but certainly that that was the feeling that everyone now. macpherson actually said it doesn't that all police officers are racist or even the majority them are racist. what he's is that there are problems within the organised nation and there are. but what the definition of institutional frankly i've given up. yes look, the white flag i think is a very damaging phrase because it's also very disempowering about. the individual, it's almost excuse is the individual in all of

these crimes all of these discriminatory decisions, which may be police officers making, are there individuals are making those decisions. and i think we need to shine a light on those individuals and wait out. individuals and wait them out. like say, anything that was like you say, anything that was missing report. chris, missing this report. chris, that surprised there some surprised? yeah. there was some nowhere instance operation trident. so remind us that was was that the black black knife crime it early 2000 it began in the eighties in the nineties and you had violence on streets of london that would perpetuate by so—called jihadi criminals came in from jamaica and of course some local criminals and the black community the activist turn to the police and said , turn to the police and said, you've really got to do something about this. now, various efforts were made and then 1998, was set up then in 1998, trident was set up as an intelligence gathering . as an intelligence gathering. 2000 went fully . so you had 2000 went fully. so you had motor teams teams, intelligence teams , hubs across london . and teams, hubs across london. and what they did was successful, wasn't it? it was brilliant . and wasn't it? it was brilliant. and you had some of the active today who we all know . i won't say

who we all know. i won't say love, but we all know who handled the police at that time were full of praise as the years went by. trident won the trust of the black community. there was a trident logo and, kids. when the trident community people wanted that logo down. inside the branded projects . it inside the branded projects. it worked, didn't it? i was in jamaica for eight months in various everyone in jamaica had heard of operation trident, the police was in trident yards that you might complete from taking your arm off trying get the lanyard it had to find chastity reputation and then for some reason around 2010 the bosses started to change the focus and then had mark duncan yeah which really blew a hole in you know the relationship anyway but what the relationship anyway but what the met and i think the community needs to do let's get back to let's get some of the trident people at scotland yard let's recreate the atmosphere of cooperation that existed. it was a great time the met. it was a

blueprint for the rest of the met. everyone bought into it and i can't understand why she didn't mention it. no. all right, chris. fascinating. chris hobbs, they're a former police officer, but joining now is police and crime commissioner from mark jones . good morning, from mark jones. good morning, mark. obviously, your coming to us this morning from from up north and maybe it is a very different policing situation a start by that. how different is it police lincolnshire would it to police lincolnshire would you it is down here in you say than it is down here in the capital city and being part of met. well it is very . the capital city and being part of met. well it is very. i of the met. well it is very. i also our national because also chair our national because i do spend a lot of time looking at the issue from a national perspective. and it is a difference of questions, but nevertheless there are some underlying things fundamentally trust in policing vital to the mission . but most people say mission. but most people say when they talk about trust to me locally is well, do you answer the phone when ? i read up do you the phone when? i read up do you turn up when i need you? there questions people have . the other questions people have. the other issues are all you doing the

right things to make sure the culture policing is right? all to be honest, locally? second to that question of are you there when i need you. our job the when i need you. ourjob the pubuc when i need you. ourjob the public representative to policing is to hold chief constables to account in delivering that cultural . but at delivering that cultural. but at the same time turning up in the way the public need . i think way the public need. i think trust will be built only by to pubuc trust will be built only by to public need for service and you know, we we've got a lot of cultural change that's needed that fundamental to the mission , making sure that jobs are turned up too. and i think that's where we need to not lose focus all of this in the case report is vital, but so is actually answering the phone , actually answering the phone, turning out and doing a good job. mark i would also argue what's also . i mean, call me old what's also. i mean, call me old fashioned, i like police station. i like see police

officers . i think particularly officers. i think particularly some of the elderly in our community who are the victims of crime. they don't necessarily really want to fight. it's talk to a or email somebody if they've got cancer and they want to walk to the high street and they want to go and see police officer should we not get back to that ? i think when i speak to to that? i think when i speak to people and say, what do you want from policing? the honest answer is, i want to not need policing . i want to feel safe. be safe and prevention of is fundamentally the one principle that the public want . nobody that the public want. nobody wants to be a victim of crime and have to report it anyhow . and have to report it anyhow. and you're right that to some people it's face to face contact is really, really important . is really, really important. policing shouldn't lose sight of that. for others, being to contact the police through , you contact the police through, you know, online messaging apps, sending photographs of information that way is also really important . we've got to really important. we've got to be able to invest in all those,

but it's certainly not about closing frontline police stations and that kind of thing. and we saw in the case, a report that that's going to significant problem in london. we've seen a lot of death claims and all of those erode trust and confidence policing. yeah i think a lot of people now, mark, you the victim of a crime. you get your car broken into someone makes you handbag. they're not even bothering to report it. i mean, there was a sense i think it was in the case report how low the rape conviction rate is . it's rape conviction rate is. it's practically rendered legal, one might say, in this country, because the of getting somebody to call a rape allegation are so tiny is what she means when she talks about misogyny is that one example of how women who predominantly victims of rape. not not but predominantly it's women who are being neglected by that culture . well, there's no that culture. well, there's no that culture. well, there's no that women and girls in particular been let down in a

number of different crime areas. you know , it's not exclusively you know, it's not exclusively women, but there is a large percentage of women that are affected by certain kinds of crimes and policing and the criminal justice system must do better . it's of no consequence better. it's of no consequence if the police a really good job and then it doesn't get to because of the cps not putting the case to court or if the actual court process takes so long that it's more traumatic to go through with it than to get on with your life outside of the criminal justice system. so the whole system has to do better and that's certainly something that we're working directly with ministers to do to say, how can the system as a whole be more responsive, the needs of individuals ? you know, it's not individuals? you know, it's not just about assaults, but it is a really important area that we want policing to do much, much better. but can't emphasise enough that not a victim of those crimes , the best way of those crimes, the best way of deaung those crimes, the best way of dealing with . we need to get dealing with. we need to get back to policing where prevention of crime our number

one priority not just having a response model where we're trying to turn up and chase around after event, but policing really wants to get back to how do you do that though, chris? because presumably that's education. that's about that's about a cultural difference. i mean , how do you go about mean, how do you go about preventing people falling into a life of crime in the first place? well, it's all of those. it's also about putting effort into reducing re—offend ending. we know that , you know, there we know that, you know, there are prolific offenders that are going in and out of prison or they're going through probation and, then instantly committing war crimes. we've got to get better at getting those people off that conveyor if we can prevent re—offend ending happen, we will reduce the number of victims significantly . and that victims significantly. and that policing can't do that its own. but when we talk about trust in policing . what people are saying policing. what people are saying about their loss of confidence in the criminal justice system . in the criminal justice system. they're expressing that through

the lens of policing. so some of these cases are really down to two policing to pull that house in order. but actually it the holding on people on may people on ministers to work better and smarter to get the system working more effectively to make sure that people like my and my mother feel safe in the street and know that if they do need help, it will be there as quickly possible. okay, mark, thank you so police and crime commissioner for lincolnshire, mark jones there. joining me now is the chair of the haringey independent and search monitoring monitoring, ken . oh, monitoring monitoring, ken. oh, ken, it's been a big week this week for the police and the reverberations. we've just spoken to our friend north there . how do the police fix this? what are they getting wrong, in your opinion? i think what the police seem to be getting wrong is the extent of the actual that they face this house, how endemic is in all aspects of policing . now it's on fortunate policing. now it's on fortunate that when you've got the leadership up who's still failed

to acknowledge just how serious a crisis that the police are police are facing around confidence and trust in the police . he's denying police. he's denying institutional racism. if it's some political board that's been played when in my community that we've been complaining about being the police in the black community the last 40 years and the fallout from that is that a number of our people have been killed by the hands of the police and also many of us in our community turn to the police when they become a victim of crime. now, as i said , he needs crime. now, as i said, he needs to, first of all, acknowledge 6010 and the harm that has done to the black community. had this report, we had the macpherson report, we had the macpherson report in the 1990s who alludes to round institutional racism. we feel the backlash of that

and. i'm thinking it starts with acknowledging the harm that other has done to particular communities. the business to case use this phrase about eye—watering force being used by the police . isn't a case that the police. isn't a case that sometimes you might need to use eye—watering force if you've got a proper villain who's trying to escape a knife in his pocket. i'm all right when i watering a saw my i'm i am i'm all for it and i will support the police when we have that site of criminal coming come in to us. but when look at stop and search example nine out of ten that stop on says lead to no further action but it can lead to the person on the receiving end being what we call stockton . being what we call stockton. that's evil, emotional or physical. now take it, for example , if you look at the example, if you look at the system, you'll find that if you're a black young man, you can be likely to be dealt with harsher and level. that means if i'm on on a normal interaction, i'll stop and says, you're going to be your use of force will be

more likely be targeted to want to tell person. so though to tell that person. so though they haven't committed any offence. so when you mention you see a man wielding a knife or or gun or anything 19 they've got the to deal with that. tasers then sprays they've got force of batons but when they generally use it on innocent bystander ended and notification that particularly young men who are under the age of 18 that's not very introduction of every put into action to have from where i'm sitting . if there's an area i'm sitting. if there's an area particularly so is haringey that's where you work so predominantly that disproportionately represented by the black community as compared to other areas in the country. i wouldn't say disproportionately compared other like rural regions or you know, there's going to be a higher density of black people. there is there is a substantial density of black people in that and that's area. but what we

trying to say is quite clearly that you got the police by council meant because if you don't police by consent, you can be look , though, you're an be look, though, you're an occupier , occupying force means occupier, occupying force means that people aren't going to warm to you and asked to very supportive. i have much trouble in trying to convince people who's become a victim of crime, some serious crime to actually look and go to the police and give off the intelligence and they much prefer to say that there's no snitching culture. you know, i will community which i has some done hasn't done our community well . it's such a mess community well. it's such a mess isn't it . chris hobbs was isn't it. chris hobbs was talking about trident's operation trident . was that operation trident. was that a success for you ? it started off success for you? it started off in the right vein to target really serious, violent criminal, but it up in like . i criminal, but it up in like. i remember at one stage when they couldn't break the silence

within that community so that if it was a bright idea to go to jamaica and get some of the people from there to become informants over here. but unfortunately some of the people they picked from jamaica, which gangsters who came over here and they this thought they had the legal gun and all it did was exploit violence on our community, more terrorism in our community. so i said it started off well , but it ended up and off well, but it ended up and they had to be because a number of cases, particularly when a young girl, stonebridge, a young ten year old girl, got shot . ten year old girl, got shot. when they shot the they came for the for the father children. but she she was there so couldn't leave the eyewitness in the end killing her too. but yeah , but killing her too. but yeah, but there's clearly a problem. and don't know what the solution is right now. but it's the solution is you arrest your way out of this , what with people like this, what with people like yourself, grassing groups who can change mindset of these young people . all right. thank young people. all right. thank you.can young people. all right. thank you. can ken there so it's you. can ken hinds there so it's fascinating it to look at it fascinating is it to look at it from all sides that particular

angle i've been asking on twitter trust police so twitter do you trust police so far? it shows that 68% of you say no , you don't trust the say no, you don't trust the police . you are watching and police. you are watching and listening to gb news about her. and lots more coming up on today's show. we're going to be going live to a ulez protest that's taking place at the orpington war memorial. our london hartle will london reporter lisa hartle will be your weather . be there. first, your weather. hello again. looking head through of weekend. it through rest of the weekend. it is to turn little bit is going to turn little bit colder for sunday and there will be but be some showery rain around. but it's south where things it's in the south where things are really going to turn quite wet and windy as we go through tonight. of tonight. and that's because of this of low pressure. and this area of low pressure. and it's fronts. this is going it's a fronts. all this is going to the uk and to push towards the uk and across southern parts as we go through evening and overnight, take closer look though through the saturday, you can the rest of saturday, you can see that showery rain see that some showery rain affecting the uk in affecting parts of the uk in particular and there'll be some wintry the high ground wintry mix over the high ground here too. but it's in the south. wintry mix over the high ground her

uncertainty as to how far north that going to reach. but that rain is going to reach. but it could be pretty heavy with perhaps to 30 millimetres in perhaps up to 30 millimetres in some of the some places because of the cloud, the rain in the cloud, the wind, the rain in the south, temperatures here staying relatively further north, relatively mild. further north, though, perhaps some icy here and perhaps some icy patches of wintry patches because of some wintry showers on sunday showers first thing on sunday morning sunday morning, morning through. sunday morning, though, cloudy, though, we will see that cloudy, wet across parts, wet across southern parts, clearing is going to clearing away. so it is going to turn , albeit fairly cloudy turn drier, albeit fairly cloudy than today for sure. for most places, some sunshine breaking out towards northern parts of northern ireland also across northern ireland and also across of between any of scotland. in between any showers that are pushing down on that and it's that that northerly and it's that northerly means northerly flow. that means temperatures are going temperatures tomorrow are going to compared to to be markedly down compared to today we go through the end today as we go through the end of tomorrow. and for of the day tomorrow. and for many, to be largely many, it is going to be largely dry. cloud will break up dry. the cloud will break up somewhat we'll more somewhat. so we'll see more clear as we go through clear skies as we go through sunday into monday. and sunday night into monday. and with that northerly wind we with that cold northerly wind we are see temperatures are likely to see temperatures dropping quite low to particularly northern particularly across the northern half here be half the uk. here there'll be a fairly frost first thing fairly harsh frost first thing on monday morning and watch out for some icy patches too. if you're taking the roads you're taking to the roads that's wintry showers

that's because wintry showers falling could falling on frozen surfaces could lead difficult lead to some difficult conditions through monday itself, though. yes, it's a chilly frosty start for many, but a bright one. lots of but quite a bright one. lots of sunshine had. it is likely sunshine to be had. it is likely to day of this to be the driest day of this week to. that's things week to. that's because things are going to turn a bit more unsettled from tuesday with some wet to come. wet and windy weather to come. but temperatures should creep up a later .

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will a daily 12 £12.50 ultralow emission zone fee when the ulez scheme expands according to new analysis . the extension ulez analysis. the extension ulez extension protest is taking place today in orpington . war place today in orpington. war memorials. a lot of people very angry about this and rightly in my opinion. so lisa hartle joins us now from orpington. get afternoon lisa i believe it's quite noisy where you are . tell quite noisy where you are. tell us how many people have gathered and what are they protesting about ? so it's really hard to about? so it's really hard to give a number because it's kind of stretched around around, about behind us. there's lots of tractors, lots of cars . beeping tractors, lots of cars. beeping is going by, lots of people with placards, etc, but indeed very noisy, which is why we stood back a little bit. but i'm joined by the mp for orpington, gareth bacon, who joins me. gareth, tell why you're here today while you feel so strongly about this. well, mechelen is it's decided to do something that's going really hurt. the people that live here. he's

claiming this necessary in claiming this is necessary in order get rid of bad air. but order to get rid of bad air. but don't order to get rid of bad air. but dont bad order to get rid of bad air. but don't bad air here. and he don't have bad air here. and he knows that. and he's going to be charging people £12.50 day if charging people £12.50 a day if they non—compliant. they they drive non—compliant. the people he's going to the kind of people he's going to be hitting a social care workers ordinary people people ordinary everyday people people that need cars we that didn't need their cars we don't have public transport opfions don't have public transport options here or certainly not the number that we in central london and he's hurting them no benefit at all because he knows that this is going that this is not going to improve so this improve air quality. so this is all to start on the 31st of all due to start on the 31st of august as isn't as a £12.50 a day. tell us a bit. there's a lot of tractors here. tell us a bit about how it's impacting on people in the farming community. well, it's going to be devastating because to replace some the that you see behind some of the that you see behind is going be in the region of is going to be in the region of several and several hundred thousand. and this point . this not this is the point. this is not central london . you know, this central london. you know, this is a rural space. have if is a very rural space. have if you look at an overhead map of orpington, you would see greenfields because two thirds of is green. actually have of it is green. we actually have operating here. this is operating farms here. this is going to smash these people up.

it's smash up our it's going to smash up our businesses. going businesses. it's going to smash up our care workers, our police officers firefighters. officers and firefighters. it's not for anybody. so i'm not a win for anybody. so i'm just going to just read you some data that's been collected by imperial data imperial london. so the data reveals many as 204 reveals that as many as 204 deaths attributable toxic air in bromley , 162 deaths attributable toxic air in bromley ,162 in deaths attributable toxic air in bromley , 162 in bexley deaths attributable toxic air in bromley ,162 in bexley and deaths attributable toxic air in bromley , 162 in bexley and 129 bromley, 162 in bexley and 129 in greenwich each year. yes, that's not true. that's a model that's not true. that's a model that done some time ago which said that 4000 people, roughly in london air pollution contributed to their deaths , not contributed to their deaths, not caused that surrey colonies respond that it's causing harm . respond that it's causing harm. and the 204 people you mentioned in primary, these aren't real people simply applied it and breaking it to down well on a ratio this is how many people to knock out in age. knock out in people's age. bromley of . the oldest bromley has some of. the oldest population in the whole of greater so said, greater london. so they've said, well, people die, well, if that many people die, 204 of them will be air pollution. but if it were pollution. but even if it were true, if it were causing true, even if it were causing their this is not their deaths, doing this is not going make difference. going to make any difference. and that he had and the man that because he had to an independent company to have an independent company called produce report called jacobs produce a report looks impact this would looks at what impact this would

have. came back and said have. and he came back and said it would be minor to negligible. this is not about air quality, about money. and tell me about raising money. and tell me about some of that. you're telling you're contacted. oh, telling me you're contacted. oh, very, motorcycle kids very, very loud motorcycle kids going down. me about going up and down. tell me about some your constituents some of the your constituents that been contacting you, that have been contacting you, what i've what they've been saying. i've had of people had thousands of people contacting a lot contacting me. so i've had a lot of pensioners saying of pensioners who are saying they're to housebound they're going to be housebound now. they can't get and about they can't afford to replace their vehicles. i've had charities contacted saying charities contacted me saying they're shut they're going to have to shut their i people that their doors i have people that work emergency services live work for emergency services live outside britain and can't outside great britain and can't come in, come the boundary. people family and people can't visit family and friends, local businesses are going by this. it going to be ruined by this. it really affecting everybody really is affecting everybody these ordinary, these are just ordinary, everyday people and they are certainly what the certainly not, which is what the mayor trying claim. mayor london is trying to claim. these people are not far right, but you're seeing their lives ruined no at all. ruined for no reason at all. they're that's why they're angry and that's why they're do think they're here today. do you think this a valid thing that this is a valid thing that should place in any part of should take place in any part of london where pollution levels are i would suppose are higher? but i would suppose if going into central if they're going into central london i'm london in the congestion, i'm and that was the right and i think that was the right thing today. i think it was much

more a stretch. it out more of a stretch. take it out to and south circular, to the north and south circular, but there is case whatsoever but there is no case whatsoever to bring it we have to bring it here. we don't have low level high levels of low level sorry, high levels of air in imperial air pollution in imperial college, imperial college, the same imperial college, the same imperial college report you're referring to the london to show the london borough probably cleanest probably has a second cleanest set london behind set in greater london behind behind of behind the london bar of havering slightly havering because it has slightly more green space. this isn't about air pollution is about money. thank you very for money. thank you very much for us and just to us today. thank you. and just to read before the read you this, before all the noise gets spokesman the noise gets past, spokesman the spokesperson for the mayor of london said the mayor has been clear the decision to expand the ultra low emission zone london wind white not an easy one but he has had a duty to tackle toxic air pollution. nine out of ten vehicles in out of london. out of london. already ulez complying. it's the is complying. it's the ulez is a very targeted which is about getting off the the most getting off the road the most highly polluting vehicles which are everyone's health, are damaging everyone's health, including drivers . okay, including the drivers. okay, thank you so much thank you. thank you, lisa . just that was thank you, lisa. just that was gareth bacon mp of orpington. orpington it's sort of

south—east south—east of london . it's about so i'm in paddington terrace about hour and a half drive. if you were going to drive from central, where we are largely here at gb news still it's not a centre of london if you're looking at that. i he's got point don't that. i he's got a point i don't think we to see even in the think we need to see even in the centre of london it's an absolute moneymaking scheme and it's people's it's just restricting people's freedoms. has freedoms. sadiq khan has absolutely doing absolutely no problem doing that and mad right. and it drives me mad right. you've in touch. you've been getting in touch. our topics of the day on our big topics of the day on northern dot says an observation from the beginning of the present northern present united kingdom, northern ireland was treated differently . they got at stormont. how different. was that , a mayor different. was that, a mayor says the uk made a decision and that has allowed decision to be undermined. that's a problem starting with your globalist crown, former and current. and i also asked you today do you trust the police this on the back of baroness casey's report were looking at with three different perspectives in the policing community. i think

we're all fascinating and it just serves as that there is a massive problem. and prue has said they longer police for the point consent point for the people by consent in they now in my opinion they now corporations and forcing control over population seems to be over the population seems to be a bit of a bit of a theme isn't it control and darren says to majority of experienced street officers. but senior officers. yes but the senior officers. yes but the senior officer sat behind desks playing officers. yes but the senior ofpoliticst behind desks playing officers. yes but the senior ofpolitics noehind desks playing officers. yes but the senior ofpolitics no time desks playing officers. yes but the senior ofpolitics no time to sks playing officers. yes but the senior ofpolitics no time to bring aying officers. yes but the senior ofpolitics no time to bring back a politics no time to bring back officers the beat. not in that bmw. thank you, darren. thank you for all of those. keep your views coming in. do subscribe also, if you will, to our youtube channel. we are at gb news on youtube now. if you're watching and listening to gb news, me bethenny's. plenty news, stay me bethenny's. plenty more presume more still to come. presume you probably think probably are watching. i think as i'm to you this afternoon including world athletics has voted shock hinckley to ban transgender and women from elite female competitions if they've undergone male . we're going to undergone male. we're going to be discussing that later in the program with a woman who was behind the campaign to make common sense prevail sharon davis. stay with for that .

welcome back. you're watching listening to gb news with me bev turner. so did you see this week the uk government banned the popular made social media tiktok. if you don't know what any of that means, stay with me. my any of that means, stay with me. my mum and dad who are watching them understand that. but i explain minute. they banned explain in a minute. they banned it all parliamentary it from all parliamentary devices, including employees, work to discuss work phones. want to discuss and ask how safe is ask the question how safe is tiktok scottish also tiktok after scottish also followed banned if my followed suit and banned if my employees phones. joining employees mobile phones. joining me this it's one of the me discuss this it's one of the best in the business when it comes tech journalism will guy. great to see you. so let's go bafic great to see you. so let's go basic let's go at it guide there will a lot of people who are not idiots but won't know what tiktok is. explain it for us.

will yeah. there's a good reason that tok is a hugely popular media app, predominantly with the under twenties, but as we've social media apps, they start growing out into different audiences and older as they develop is hugely popular. the idea tiktok it started with short videos and they were quite canny in that they licenced the music . you could dance along to music. you could dance along to your favourite pop hits, you could mime along to dance etc. that's where it started. and then it's developed much more from there. and it's a platform where people share their opinions in video. where people share their opinions in video . there's opinions in video. there's humour, there's kind of even, you know, quite insight, insightful that you can get about all manner of topics. now it's proved popular globally . it's proved popular globally. it's the fastest growing social network. there's around 1.5 billion people around the world now using it. and we heard this week 150 million americans now use it, which is a huge number. it's bigger than the us social networks now in the us . so it's networks now in the us. so it's not only it a means of

communication with other people as per i guess sort of whatsapp in that you can comment on each other's videos and stuff. you can you can hear from the but it's about content creation tune isn't it? and in some ways those who are a bit who are extremely cynical about tech and the effect it's having on humans, children , our brains, our children, our brains, our emotions, etc. people like me . i emotions, etc. people like me. i can see the benefit in tik tok videos because kids are at least being creative. they're creating own content, they're working out how music goes with images, goes with comedy, goes telling a little story. there some sort of input. so why is it bad? well, guyot, have the government in this stopped putting their phones. well, the challenge at the moment is the suggestion that there's chinese state influence in the app. no, we've had no proof evidence that had no proof evidence of that from just from anybody. it's just the suggestion that the chinese state might be snooping around and using the data that the

outlet collects . there's even outlet collects. there's even been suggestions from british that this as an app and a collects more data than us social networks. that's not the case. all networks, all online apps take more data than they probably should. that's the proxy you pay for using what's so—called in quotation marks, a free app or a service. so there's this big this big suggestion, beth , it's dangerous suggestion, beth, it's dangerous it's not safe. you've got us members of congress suggesting that it's brainwashing young kids . but there's that it's brainwashing young kids. but there's a real contradiction here in the uk, it was banned on within 5 hours. number ten had given themselves an exemption so they could still keep using tiktok to communicate to the young audience they what's the platform ? what? hang what's the platform? what? hang on, hang on, hang on. say that again. well, so. so they said the mps can't have it on their work in case the chinese government is listening in. and then said oh, but actually then they said oh, but actually ten can still use it because ten we can still use it because then can reach the youth. then we can reach the youth. yeah exactly yeah that's exactly what happened. biden , for

happened. joe biden, for example, in the us has said, look, if you don't sell your know, the chinese, the chinese owns of it don't sell their stake. it's going happen in the us the same time he was us at the same time he was appearing patrick's videos appearing in st patrick's videos with members of one direction. so it makes little no sense. the contradict, contradiction as a society. bev we are to here in chinese technology it feels like a really strange place to start east—west, you know, geopolitical conflict over social which is used by many people for good. that's the challenge yet and if that if somebody gave us some actual evidence it's like i yeah i don't always agree on the covid stuff. right. but i agree that if somebody shows me some evidence to tell me that this is, is damaging or the data is leaking to the chinese i will step back well done. step back and go well done. governments around the world. but it feels but until that point, it feels like chinese hysteria. i listened guy , tiktok, on listened to a guy, tiktok, on friday actually spend a long time defending the business, the

corporation and, the app, and he was very clear was saying this is not owned the chinese government. i don't know whether you heard that same gentleman stand up on stage and the app . stand up on stage and the app. if there was evidence, if there was data that we could see he couldn't do that, could he ? she couldn't do that, could he? she said, i'm incredibly naive. he couldn't and the biggest challenge was because he's actually been quite transparent , honest. unlike someone like mark who has really struggled in this congress scenarios. he had a congress woman say to him, so you're going to 100% guarantee to me that somebody in the chinese government won't see data on the platform, he said, i'm going to offer 100% guarantee, i'm telling you guarantee, but i'm telling you it's not happening. and for the for the congresswoman, that wasn't enough. but congress in the us we're talking about tiktok as if it was kind of indicative of the problem. it was the chinese the chinese problem was all this data is being harvested in young us people . young americans have .

people. young americans have. no, the data harvested is the as in the us at best just. last week ring owned by amazon and those are the doorbells, the smart doorbells you might have when you high school that kind of yeah and they started they gave information the us law enforcement so from some cameras without the owners of the without even the owners of the cameras . so without even the owners of the cameras. so yeah you can't that the chinese are bad and then say that the us companies are all you know is and not making any mistakes themselves . yeah mistakes themselves. yeah absolutely. it's i think it's an interesting topic will, and i think probably raised a lot of issues that we barely scratch the surface of what that means for people but to great you i'll have you on my weekday show soon to these of topics to talk about these of topics will guy at the tech journalist it is interesting is what you think oh you can send me a text, right? no, you can't. i'm not on it. now, a turnaround in the world of athletics happened just a few days ago with the governing body's president. lord coe, no coe, who said that no transgender athletes gone transgender athletes who'd gone

through puberty would be through male puberty would be permitted in female permitted to compete in female ranking competitions as as ranking competitions as soon as later month. so let's discuss this. i'm delighted to be joined by former olympic swimmer , by former olympic swimmer, feminist advocates sharon davis not delivering the really bad they just kind of happened lovely to see you we have been seeing that you from our sport purely because what happened to me way back in the know in the dark days in black and white time east, german athletes were given testosterone and they totally dominated women's sport. and i could see this happening all over again and i was absolutely determined that i was not going to sit by and let happen. so that's why i've been so vocal in hard. has that been, though, for you, sharon because you work , you got you lost work, you got marginalised , were ostracised . marginalised, were ostracised. well, how has it been for you on a personal level fighting this crusade ? yeah, really horrible ? crusade? yeah, really horrible? because the trans activist ,

because the trans activist, there's a very, very small minority of them that literally just decide they want to your lives because they don't agree with your view and they don't want to allow you to have a platform to even present facts and science, you know and just be respect and i say let's find solutions. so they ring everybody work they everybody that you work for they ring work for ring charities that you work for and they make my life hell. luckily we seem to be coming out the it now. but yes the other side it now. but yes really and they really difficult and they intimidate people not intimidate people into not speaking would have you speaking and i would have you know parents of swimmers or athletes coaches athletes athletes and coaches of athletes really athletes ringing up really big athletes ringing up and in tears, not being and just in tears, not being able to voice opinions , able to voice their opinions, feeling i just couldn't feeling that i just couldn't they couldn't say what they felt. then also, top it felt. and then also, to top it all their associations , not all off their associations, not even to ask the female even bothering to ask the female athletes felt about it athletes how they felt about it as so thank you. good to as well. so thank you. good to do that. i have declare an do that. i have to declare an interest people who don't know sharon i used to swim as well. i as good as you but i was from a swimming family so i tried in your shoes too some extent and thatis your shoes too some extent and that is getting up at 6:00 in

the morning training every night, doing all of those competitions that we used to do , i might have stood , idea that i might have stood on blocks at national on the blocks at the national championships and baths and knew that was a male born athlete in the lane next to me i would have beeni the lane next to me i would have been i don't know how i would have coped with that. well, i and i know how my mother would have coped with it. what i find fascinating, i've watched the athletes supporting, swimmers like is complicit like leah thomas is complicit and how accepting they are of trans athletes racing beside them. why it's very few to be fair, it is very few it's sometimes feels as if it's a few of the athletes that are part of the lgbt community that feel as if they're almost bullied into having to give my opinion . so having to give my opinion. so the vast majority of athletes are very, very pro keeping the women's category for that are biologically female. and that's what the cancer was created for, you know, it solely created to

keep people who had male biology . and the advantage that max bnngs . and the advantage that max brings and all that we're saying is , you know, sport is is, you know, sport is absolutely for all. it really be for everybody. it's a wonderful thing to it keeps us all healthy and keeps us mentally as well. but it to in the correct but it has to in the correct place. don't have. place. and so we don't have. heavyweight fighting heavyweight boxers fighting bantamweight. have bantamweight. we don't have 15 year in under 12. year olds going in the under 12. you have numerous you know, we have numerous categories and paralympics to divide that people can have divide so that people can have level playing fields and an opportunity successful . opportunity to be successful. and sport is already and women sport is already incredibly marginalised. get incredibly marginalised. we get nowhere opportunity of nowhere near the opportunity of men's does. yeah men's sport does. yeah absolutely. let me just read you share on stonewall have share on what stonewall have said. transgender gay, bisexual rights, it is so rights, charity it is so disappointing to . see world disappointing to. see world athletics announce a unilateral ban on trans women track and field events. their own statement recognises there are no trans women competing . it's no trans women competing. it's an international level and that they have no specific evidence to justify the ban. we stand with trans people who now have the door closed on their to compete athletics sports at

compete in athletics sports at an international level . what do an international level. what do you make of that statement ? you make of that statement? well, pretty much every line in that statement is incorrect . so, that statement is incorrect. so, you know, and they turned off their responses for deliberately for reason, and they had a barrage of people pointing out what they'd done wrong. for starters, no one is banning anybody. they just banning them from that category. so they're perfectly of racing with people with biology. there was with the same biology. there was lots every single lots of evidence every single throughout the of history throughout the whole of history shows that males are stronger than females. in fact, the ratio between about 10 to 30. so the more explosive an event is like weightlifting , 30% middle weightlifting, 30% middle distance , 10% weightlifting, 30% middle distance ,10% swimming were distance, 10% swimming were about 11 to 12% high jump, long jump about 11 to 12% high jump, long jump 20. so it's absolutely massive. you know, when the olympics are one one second and it means that you can take a very mediocre male athlete , leah very mediocre male athlete, leah thomas and within one year of transition still enable to have ten times as much testosterone and that system as i have. in fact, they've gone through puberty. they were able to walk straight college

straight into the college championships in and championships in america and beat three olympic silver medallists . so, you know, it's medallists. so, you know, it's not there was no other word for it . and to say that that it. and to say that that discriminates against transgender athletes. we at the moment discriminating against everything male female athlete in whole by saying they're in the whole by saying they're not entitled to fast food . you not entitled to fast food. you have some sympathy. sharon for those people have confusion their gender let's call it that even as i'm saying that i know it's going to upset a lot of people. the language around is very difficult to get right, isn't it? without upsetting somebody? absolutely . but somebody? yeah, absolutely. but those do live and those people who do live and there is no doubt that from the beginning of time there have been individual labels who will say a very young age, they say from a very young age, they were born in wrong body. were born in the wrong body. i think there is a there are think there is a there there are very few of them. but those people exist and feels like people exist and it feels like the tyranny of the the sort of tyranny of the minority which what we've lived under of this under it feels in terms of this particular debate do you worry that there's some kickback from this particular issue in sport

that will negatively affect trans people who do have a difficult journey ? no, i almost difficult journey? no, i almost think the opposite, because i think the opposite, because i think people then lose sympathy when they feel as if the rights of other people are being trodden on, then they may end up becoming more having more animosity . you know, and i think animosity. you know, and i think that a lot of trans people that i've met have actually said that, you know, i many trans friends throughout this process that made most of them that i've made and most of them support sports . it's a very support fast sports. it's a very few number that actually don't and i think you also have to remember to say you are born in the wrong body still means that thatis the wrong body still means that that is the body that you have, whether you like it or no. that is a body that you will be doing sport with. so that is the reality of the biological situa and is what we have to deal with. know. if we say we're with. you know. if we say we're going to change across, going to change rules across, the whole society based on the whole of society based on what feel, we're not to what people feel, we're not to stop know, it's just stop it, you know, it's just it's not realistic it's just not realistic and something sport, is something like sport, which is something like sport, which is so you know, reliant on so much by, you know, reliant on the physical abilities that

you're to put into the you're able to put into the swimming pool or the track or swimming pool or to the track or whatever. you know, we can't just pretend that that doesn't exist. the women no longer exist. and the women no longer entitled to have something that men are entitled to have absolute . sharon it's lovely to absolute. sharon it's lovely to see. thank you for all your hard work, honesty thank you so much for everything that done for everything that you've done on this issue. think it's on this issue. i think it's for all our daughters, actually. all of our daughters, actually. so we're going to hoping to get an view to sharon later an opposing view to sharon later on program. on on in the program. on that topic, on topic. you topic, you not on the topic. you are listening. gb news are watching, listening. gb news saturday with me bev turner. coming up this afternoon, we're going be discussing boris going to be discussing boris johnson's future after he sat through privileges committee through the privileges committee meeting did see meeting this week, did you see it ridiculous. but it absolutely ridiculous. but first, a at the first, let's take a look at the weather. hello again. looking through the rest of the weekend, it going to turn a little bit it is going to turn a little bit colder for sunday. there will be some . it's some showery rain around. it's in the south where things are really going quite wet really going to turn quite wet and we go through and windy as we go through tonight. that's of tonight. and that's because of this of pressure. and it's this of low pressure. and it's associated fronts. all this associated two fronts. all this is push towards the uk is going to push towards the uk and southern parts as we

and across southern parts as we go this evening and go through this evening and overnight, closer look overnight, take a closer look through rest of saturday and through the rest of saturday and you see that showery rain you can see that showery rain affecting northern parts of the uk particular. there'll uk in particular. and there'll be some wintry mix over the high ground it's the ground here. but it's in the south have that wet and south where we have that wet and windy weather. mentioned windy weather. i mentioned earlier to push its earlier that's going to push its way a little of. way across a little bit of. uncertainty far north uncertainty as to how far north that rain is going to reach. but it could heavy with perhaps it could be heavy with perhaps up 30 millimetres in some up to 30 millimetres in some places because of the cloud, the wind, in south, wind, the rain in the south, temperatures staying temperatures here staying relatively mild. further north, though, picture, some though, a chillier picture, some frost perhaps some icy frost here and perhaps some icy patches wintry patches because of some wintry showers. sunday showers. first thing on sunday morning morning, morning through sunday morning, though, the cloudy though, we will see the cloudy wet across southern though, we will see the cloudy wet clearing cross southern though, we will see the cloudy wet clearing away. ;outhern though, we will see the cloudy wet clearing away. so :hern though, we will see the cloudy wet clearing away. so itern though, we will see the cloudy wet clearing away. so it is parts clearing away. so it is going to drier, albeit going to turn drier, albeit fairly cloudy today for fairly cloudy, cloudy today for sure. for most places , some sure. for most places, some sunshine breaking out towards northern parts of northern ireland and also across parts in between showers that are between any showers that are pushing down on that northerly flow, flow. flow, it's that northerly flow. that temperatures tomorrow that means temperatures tomorrow are markedly down to are going to be markedly down to today we go through the end today as we go through the end of the day tomorrow. and for many, it is to be largely dry.

the cloud will break somewhat. so more clear skies as so we'll see more clear skies as we through sunday into we go through sunday night into monday that cold monday and with that cold northerly are likely northerly wind, we are likely to see dropping see temperatures dropping quite low the low to particularly across the northern the uk. here northern half of the uk. here there'll a fairly harsh frost there'll be a fairly harsh frost first monday morning first thing on monday morning and for some icy and watch out for some icy patches too. you're taking to patches too. if you're taking to the that's because wintry the roads. that's because wintry showers on frozen could showers falling on frozen could lead some difficult lead to some difficult conditions monday conditions through monday itself, though. yes a chilly frosty for many , but quite frosty start for many, but quite a one. of sunshine a bright one. lots of sunshine to it is likely to be to be had. it is likely to be the day of this week to the driest day of this week to come. that's because things are to turn a bit more unsettled from tuesday with some wet and windy come, windy weather to come, but temperatures a temperatures should creep up a little later .

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for the next hour , i'm going to for the next hour, i'm going to be keeping you company on your and radio with the stories that matter you across the country just happening. all of us just coming to say coming to the studio to say hello on this evening on hello be on this evening on your new saturday here on new look saturday night here on gb news is on at six till seven plenty coming up still on this show we're going to be discussing johnson's discussing boris johnson's future we await future as an mp as we await the verdict whether or not he verdict on whether or not he misled during the misled parliament during the ridiculous partygate scandal . ridiculous partygate scandal. this comes after he sat in front of senior mp on the privileges committee earlier this week. we're going to be looking at all that. of all, here that. first of all, here you headunes that. first of all, here you headlines bethany . beth, headlines with bethany. beth, thank you. good it's 2:10. i'm bethany elsey with your top stories from the gb newsroom the head of the fire brigade union is calling for mass non—cooperation with the government's new empty strike laws. the minimum service level bill would give ministers to force certain union in key sectors to work on strike days

or face losing their jobs if be you general secretary matt wrack says the bill is of the most draconian attacks on the rights of working people in decades. he's urging the trades union congress to hold an emergency meeting to launch a joint strategy to the legislation to basically force workers to cross picket lines which are being manned by their colleagues. i think it is completely and unethical and i just don't think it would work . the idea that it would work. the idea that workers are going to be strong armed into breaking a strike that they've voted for , i think that they've voted for, i think is just fanciful. so in the end, i think this bill is a backward bill. and going to inflame the situation in view, make the strike even worse to boys have been charged with the murder of a 16 year old who was stabbed to death in northampton rowan shand, known as fred died following the attack on wednesday . the 14 and 16 year

wednesday. the 14 and 16 year old boys who can't be named for legal reasons, will appear before magistrates court today . before magistrates court today. at least 23 people have been killed following a major tornado that hit the us state of mississippi . it's understood mississippi. it's understood dozens have been injured and at least four people are still missing after the twister swept through the state and into alabama. the emergency management agency says the storm has left a trail of damage more than a hundred miles long. residents of entire buildings left in rubble. cars turned and trees uprooted by the get ourselves into middle part of the house. and we and we got in there and obviously it was coming right behind us because as soon we got in there, we heard a big boom and didn't hear anything else for little while. so we walked out and then just came to about ten trees down came out to about ten trees down in yard. gwyneth paltrow has testified she initially thought she was being sexually assault did after a collision with a retired doctor on a ski slope in

utah back in 2006. 76 year old terry sanderson is accusing the oscar winning actress of crashing into him and says he's living with a permanent traumatic brain injury as a result. he's suing for damages worth a quarter of £1,000,000. but ms. paltrow the allegations and says she can't be held responsible . i was skiing and to responsible. i was skiing and to skis came between my skis , skis came between my skis, forcing my legs apart. then there was a body against me and there was a body against me and there was a very strange grunting noise. so my was trying to make sense of what was happening. i thought, am i is this a practical joke? is someone doing something? this is really, really strange . london really, really strange. london city hall staff will no longer access to tick tock on their work devices. the greater london authority says it takes information security extremely seriously. it follows similar bans imposed on government

ministers in westminster and in the scottish government . tick the scottish government. tick tock, which is owned by chinese internet company bytedance , internet company bytedance, argues it doesn't share data with china and says these bans are based on fundamental misconceptions . one of britain's misconceptions. one of britain's leading retail consultant has warned john lewis faces battle to regain its soul. mary portas written an open letter to the chair sharon white. it follows the news she's considering ending the employee owned business structure to attract outside investment. john lewis, which employs 80,000 workers, has also of potential job cuts and said it won't give staff a bonus for only the second time since 1953. qatar's sheikh yassin has submitted improved offer to buy manchester united football club. a source to the bid says the qataris remain confident of completing a takeover . it follows a second takeover. it follows a second bid from boyhood. united fans

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back to bed. good afternoon. thanks for joining me. it's 2:07. now we're joined the studio by political correspondent catherine foster to see what's been going on this week. catherine liz truss resignation honours. i mean she was only there for 5 minutes. are you allowed to sort of nominate fewer people depending on how long you spend in number 10? well, it's sort of unprecedented, isn't it 49 days? yeah, but more than minutes, but not that was 49 days. she spent in office. so there was a lot of chat that. maybe she wouldn't put anybody because it might not be appropriate because i mean basically she was booted out because of happened to me after the many but she was hounded out by the globalists. i think you'll find catherine forster. you know, they had rishi sunak and jeremy hunt had some jobs to do. to go. they couldn't do. she had to go. they couldn't have that causing trouble have her in that causing trouble

. couldn't possibly . well, i couldn't possibly comment. but basically she has put list of four. now boris put a list of four. now boris johnson put a list forward of 100 currently been whittled to down about 60, still being disputed. is he dead on? it's still? i believe so . believe so. still? i believe so. believe so. let's what happens in the end. so liz truss doesn't have any family members, but she's got matthew from vote leave . she's matthew from vote leave. she's got brexit down. john moynihan. she's got ruth porter, who was deputy of staff with her and she's got mark littlewood of right wing think tank , the iea. right wing think tank, the iea. yeah the sort of think tank that basically she tough to trust a nomics but low tax cutting taxes low spending that sort thinking and somewhat less conservative thinking. some would call conservative thinking she wants these for people to be made lords . there's

these for people to be made lords. there's a these for people to be made lords . there's a lot of lords. there's a lot of criticism, though, because, of course, first of all, she was only there for 49 days. and also, if you're if you become a lord, it's not like when you become an mp, you've got to be re—elected and you've got to earn right every five years, earn the right every five years, haven't an. but if you haven't you, in an. but if you are a lord in the house of lords that's life. so quite that's it for life. so quite a lot of criticism . and of course lot of criticism. and of course if labour gets into power keir starmer has already said they will abolish the house of lords in its current form . but i mean in its current form. but i mean we, we have heard that before so. so she won't stack the deck a little bit although isn't very many with very capital c conservative. open market, low regulation. low tax free competition . kind of like it. competition. kind of like it. get him in there. make some decisions for us. well, yeah, but of course, a lot of people will say that their mortgage rates have rocketed because of her. now course, it wasn't only because of her interest rates. they rising anyway and cheap money was coming to an end

anyway. but it did a massive sudden impact on the economy at the time and the bank of england had to intervene and whatever. but certainly where she was right and. no one would disagree. is that she talked about the need for growth and we've had over a decade of next no growth appalling productivity that stagnating wages it's impacted on all of us and at least what she has done now is that we're talking about growth and thinking about growth, how to get growth . so that's a she to get growth. so that's a she might be a bit of a sort of socially awkward, slightly odd character . socially awkward, slightly odd character. i'm socially awkward, slightly odd character . i'm allowed to have character. i'm allowed to have an opinion at this time of the day amount stuff. i probably should tell you. but but you know, she she definitely had i think she's been scape goat head very much about the economic problems. it's so easy to blame liz truss. the quantitative easing going on for a long time and it runs up during lockdowns. and i do feel like and joanna going oh it's all her. blame the woman. blame the woman who was

there for 49 days. all her fault. anyway, that is my opinion. what are we opinion. what else are we talking about ? oh, yes, i know. talking about? oh, yes, i know. this bit i wanted to talk this is bit i wanted to talk about keir starmer released his tax a response to tax return as a response to rishi sunak, releasing his . what rishi sunak, releasing his. what doesit rishi sunak, releasing his. what does it say? so rishi sunak really big news day of boris and the windsor framework vote . so the windsor framework vote. so keir starmer, the following day, less exciting in that not surprisingly he didn't as much money so rishi sunak 4.8 million over three years. i worth saying that neither of them actually released their full tax return. they released a sort of one page rundown. but rishi released for three years. keir starmer for two and he basically earned the year 21, 22, for instance, 125,000 from being mp leader of the opposition . he also in that the opposition. he also in that year had . 85,000 capital gains year had. 85,000 capital gains tax liability from a house that

he bought for his sister. no not terribly exciting. nice. total rate was 33. rishi rishi sunak was lower at 22 because rishi sunak's comes primarily from investments. so nothing massively exciting like regular, but of course only going back two years and we don't know what he earned when he was director of public prosecutions i would imagine more but i mean they don't they have chosen to put out these tax details but of course boris johnson didn't , liz course boris johnson didn't, liz truss didn't. theresa and michael gove did when they were running the conservative leadership . but it's not that leadership. but it's not that common to do you like it as a trend? i just wonder, like i wonder, do i want to live in a country where people in office are obliged to show us how much they earn? i must say i'm much less concerned about how they earn than where they're earning it from. and i think there are some serious questions with

rishi sunak having this rishi sunak with having this based and this based investment fund and this kind of blind package of cash. and don't we know it's and we don't we know it's dividends primarily that earnings with dividends weren't they to a salary. they as opposed to a salary. but you've got surely there is some reason to argue that vested interests or conflicts of interests or conflicts of interests , motivations behind interests, motivations behind political decisions for instance, the speculation that rishi sunak had shares in maiden over his fund was invested in madonna, who provided one of the vaccines. we should know whether that informed his decision to roll out such a thing. well you can see the case transparency and why this information should be out there. and certainly there is a bit of a mystery surrounding rishi sunak's income because of the blind trust. it was put into a blind in 2019, apparently thought, well, he doesn't know, honey, that's almost like they knew he was going to become premier. he doesn't you know, doesn't know where it you know, how managed. so how it's being managed. so to avoid potential conflict of avoid any potential conflict of interest but also you would worry , wouldn't you. people worry, wouldn't you. people going into politics. yeah it's

such a environment. they get a lot of abuse. is it going to become another thing which puts good people off potentially going into politics because it's another thing that everyone is going to pick over. what's more likely to happen is they'll come up very clever ways of getting around it and hiding significant earnings so that they get earnings so that when they get into we don't know. i'm into power we don't know. i'm a big fan of transparency, don't you? you so much, you? thank you so much, catherine now moving on it catherine rice. now moving on it was big story week. boris was a big story this week. boris johnson sat for 5 hours in front of the privileges committee and was scrutinised by show boating mps whether misled the mps about whether he misled the house his involvement in the house and his involvement in the partygate scandal . joining me partygate scandal. joining me now is the labour mp for birmingham perry ball, khalid mahmood , hello khalid. nice to mahmood, hello khalid. nice to see again . prior to. see you again. and prior to. good to see you. was it a day as a labour mp? was it. did you sit there with your popcorn? did you get all comfy on the sofa and go going to enjoy 4 hours of this, watching the oiled piglet, the squealing piglet try and wriggle

free yet again in boris johnson . well, no, actually i had quite a bit of meetings to do and i quite busy with most of the meetings and i had of the committee hearing . but really committee hearing. but really it's typical . boris is never it's typical. boris is never going to come out with the full truth of what happened. it was on his terms , what he wanted to on his terms, what he wanted to say, and he said it on his terms. so really, i don't think we're ever much further forward other than waiting for the committee decide committee to decide they're going do . do you think he was going to do. do you think he was i mean, you said that you don't expect him to ever tell the truth. and does it matter , truth. and does it matter, kelly? does it matter ? used the kelly? does it matter? used the analogy earlier in the week on the mid—morning show to the point that it felt a bit watching a mediaeval battle with the drummer boy in the corner , the drummer boy in the corner, with boris johnson being the drummer boy . and it was like the drummer boy. and it was like the drummer boy. and it was like the drummer boy. and it was like the drummer boy drops his drumstick. and inquiry into and then there's an inquiry into why drummer boy dropped his why the drummer boy dropped his drumstick, opposed to all of drumstick, as opposed to all of the collateral damage and, the bloodshed and the loss and the

harm that was should really be looking at as opposed to this. now well, the problem with boris is that he can never be done at an early stage if. he'd come forward to parliament at the of it and said, look, i'm sorry, we made some mistakes . it was made some mistakes. it was difficult circumstances all difficult circumstances for all of work in the of us to work in the circumstances that we were doing the work in and apologise straight away. he would have saved himself country saved himself and the country a huge about , this whole huge debate about, this whole issue. it's upset a lot . people issue. it's upset a lot. people who have lost, loved i've lost my father in law in this covid episode that happened and it huns episode that happened and it hurts lot of families to see people who at the top were making the laws , not actually making the laws, not actually deaung making the laws, not actually dealing with it . making the laws, not actually dealing with it. this is true. but that would also argue that we've had significant over 30,000 excess deaths in the uk, not because of covid, because of covid policy of lockdowns . we're covid policy of lockdowns. we're now in the long tail of the lockdowns. isn't that what the

inquiry should be now looking as opposed to whether boris johnson knew he should or shouldn't have been, as was one of the phrases used , drifting into somebody used, drifting into somebody else's orbit in number 10 at that time. quite rightly, i think i had a number of the deaths of the family who were not covid related, but nevertheless lost their lives . nevertheless lost their lives. and i think really what the also hospital services are up to spec because of the backlog caused by covid and the fact that the nightingale hospitals that are put in were hardly used. so the capacity wasn't in the hospitals freed up to do that. i think that's you're quite right much more important question to be looking at and how we can learn to not move forward in the same direction next we need direction next time. we need a proper pander policy. how we deal with these things and there has to be an element of ppe, storage that is proper, current and put into place. yeah well, we had a pandemic preparedness plan and we ripped it up and

went something completely different, which was quarantining healthy, which is just a bizarre. and i was ever really given as a full explanation for that. can i just ask about ulez . can i ask ask you about ulez. can i ask you about we got a protest day in orpington . we've got the in orpington. we've got the conservative mp who was down there whose name gareth bacon, there whose name gareth bacon, the for orpington and sadiq khan is making himself incredibly unpopular with lot of people who have to get their daily business and use their car or their vehicle for . their business. can vehicle for. their business. can you defend him at this stage is tone deaf to people who hate you less ? well, unfortunately didn't less? well, unfortunately didn't defend the cars in birmingham, which is a clean air zone that we had in birmingham. i was against it because i believe if it's the most vulnerable and the most poorest people in our society to do that, we have to look at clean air for our future generations. but we have to look at what limits we're looking at. and as it happened in birmingham, we were actually below when cars came

below limit when the cars came in. and i think part of the issues actually, looking at the data to see how far up we are, we're going in the next five years have a huge amount of electric cars that will, of course drop, as well. so what is he then? yeah, he going to do then? yeah, absolutely. or thank you so absolutely. or i thank you so much. mahmood, labour mp much. khalid mahmood, labour mp for perry joining me for birmingham, perry joining me now political commentator now is political commentator stephen woods . good stephen carlton woods. good morning. it's not morning. it's a noon some normally on in the morning. stephen i automatically say morning . how do you say good morning. how do you think boris johnson fared this week? much as i think week? because as much as i think it was ridiculous. think in it was ridiculous. i think in terms of his performance because bofis terms of his performance because boris it is always a boris johnson it is always a performance. thought did performance. i thought he did very well . i'm performance. i thought he did very well. i'm a bit performance. i thought he did very well . i'm a bit split performance. i thought he did very well. i'm a bit split this one i did on the laws and a lot of what the mainstream media have been saying about it and weren't so kind to him as what you've been. so i think he was it was his usual performance. yes. and i thought we saw a bit more of boris at that time as. what do you mean? well, he defended himself and he didn't just put up with all the that

were because they were watched him because they were watched him because they were hostile so there were extremely hostile so there were extremely hostile so there were be there weren't any were going be there weren't any they were always going to be hostile i mean , know hostile to him. i mean, know harriet hates boris harriet harman hates boris johnson. she's made no secret of the fact he's her the fact that he's not her favourite person . i you know favourite person. i you know what crossing my mind? what was crossing my mind? stephen was thinking the reason bofis stephen was thinking the reason boris johnson is really good at this is to not this with so many wives in the past on a personal level, he's being grilled over the by bossy the kitchen table by bossy women. he's very the kitchen table by bossy womeat he's very the kitchen table by bossy womeat it. he's very the kitchen table by bossy womeat it. he's he's very the kitchen table by bossy womeat it. he's very he's very the kitchen table by bossy womeat it. he's very athe's very the kitchen table by bossy womeat it. he's very at pushing good at it. he's very at pushing back on the accusations. well, i know he keeps them under, and i shouldn't shortly we left it shouldn't be. shortly we left it with this is the trouble with bofis with this is the trouble with boris johnson serious. boris johnson is serious. is serious personal of it's serious in. a personal of it's serious in. a personal of it's serious a political level. serious on a political level. yeah forget was yeah but don't forget boris was the prime minister and the people's prime minister and a people won't forgive a lot of people won't forgive what's but what's happened all this. but when we at the inquiry in when we look at the inquiry in the privileged committee and what it's made up of, because a lot of people going to say lot of people are going to say if he gets off with it, oh, if he gets off with it, but oh, well, was conservatives , well, it was for conservatives, not. well, you look at them not. well, if you look at them for conservative mps who for conservative mps and who they actually are. i mean, the first one on the list is under

carter from warrington south . carter from warrington south. now, he was from the from the remain side. really. i need to stay he said what all the remain the afterwards. well i respect the afterwards. well i respect the referendum results which means no they don't really and we're going to do everything we can to stop the well if we move on to the other people alberto costa , who's been an mp from costa, who's been an mp from 2015, he was an avid campaigner to remain as well. so he was always going to go against the grain and i'll come to my point on this a bit later. so sir bernard jenkin , conservative mp, bernard jenkin, conservative mp, since 1992 and he was one of the maastricht rebels . rebels sorry, maastricht rebels. rebels sorry, that's that john major called or referred to them as being people with all married parents didn't see the time. yeah he has always opposed boris becoming leader. and i remember at the he said that he was going to support michael gove . he said boris

michael gove. he said boris would be a disaster. this was a reported in the dail on the 8th of august in the daily mail talking about bernard jenkin and his opposition to boris. talking about bernard jenkin and his opposition to boris . and his opposition to boris. and then finally sir charles walker mp . since 2005, a long standing mp. since 2005, a long standing critic of boris and it's been he is brought in to criticism, especially regards to treating backbenchers like dogs. he said . so what you're saying that is this for various other parties and reasons, this committee are not onside with boris. there's not onside with boris. there's not one support for boris did not one support for boris did not also sir charles walker was there was speculation to have him cross in the house, crossing the floor last year as well. so on these stepping down as an mp, as well because he's a bit disillusioned the whole process. so what you think they will so what do you think they will conclude? punishment will conclude? what punishment will they give him? this is they give him? well, this is interesting because interesting really, because if they him for more they do suspend him for more than fires a force than ten days, it fires a force

off by—election in the area . off a by—election in the area. that has the removed that means boris has the removed and he can't stand as a conservative if candidate in that byelection . but the key is that byelection. but the key is he could stand an independent. what be the situation if what would be the situation if he won the vote there and i oh i don't i don't think he'd be bothered. i don't think i don't he'd want the hassle. he wants an life don't think with an easy life don't think with space found in space journalists he found in number i don't think we've number 10. i don't think we've seen bulk boris. well a lot seen bulk of boris. well a lot of our viewers would hope that you you so you are right thank you so stephen carlton once right you're watching and listening to gb news saturday with me at bev turner more to come on turner lots more to come on today's it's day for today's show. it's match day for the nations . scotland the home nations. scotland taking to cyprus play taking on cyprus to cyprus play rugby. i didn't know and wales first is croatia we'll break down that chance with sports reporter ben jacobs he's going to be telling me a lot stuff that i don't but first, that i don't know. but first, the weather. hello again, looking head through the rest of the it going to turn a little the it is going to turn a little bit colder sunday and there will be showery rain around. but be some showery rain around. but it's where things it's in the south where things are going to turn quite

are really going to turn quite wet windy we go through wet and windy as we go through tonight, because of tonight, and that's because of area pressure. and it's area of low pressure. and it's fronts all is going to push towards across towards the uk and across southern as we go through southern parts as we go through this evening and overnight. take a look, though, through this evening and overnight. take a rest look, though, through this evening and overnight. take a rest ofok, though, through this evening and overnight. take a rest of saturday h, through this evening and overnight. take a rest of saturday h, th you h this evening and overnight. take a rest of saturday h, th you can the rest of saturday and you can see some showery rain see there's some showery rain affecting the affecting northern parts of the uk and there'll be uk particular and there'll be some wintry ness over the high ground too. but it's in the ground here too. but it's in the south where we have that wet and, windy weather i mentioned earlier that's going to push its way across a little bit of uncertainty as to how far north that going to reach. but that rain is going to reach. but it could heavy with it could be pretty heavy with perhaps up to 30 millimetres in some of the some places because of the cloud, the rain in cloud, the wind, the rain in south, temperatures here staying relatively though south, temperatures here staying rechillier though south, temperatures here staying rechillier some though south, temperatures here staying rechillier some here rough south, temperatures here staying rechillier some here andh a chillier some frost here and perhaps some icy patches because of wintry showers. first of some wintry showers. first thing on sunday morning through sunday morning, though, we will see wet weather see the cloudy, wet weather across clearing across southern parts clearing away. turn away. so it is going to turn dnen away. so it is going to turn drier, albeit fairly cloudy, cloudy an for sure for cloudy an today for sure for most places. some sunshine breaking towards northern breaking out towards northern parts and parts of northern ireland and also parts of scotland in also across parts of scotland in between showers that are between any showers that are pushing that northerly

pushing down on that northerly flow. northerly flow. and it's that northerly flow. and it's that northerly flow. temperatures flow. that means temperatures tomorrow markedly tomorrow going to be markedly down compared today we go down compared to today as we go through the of the day tomorrow. and for many, it is going to largely dry. the clouds will break we'll see break up somewhat. so we'll see more skies as we go more clear skies as we go through into monday through sunday night into monday and cold northerly and with that cold northerly wind, to wind, we are likely to see temperatures quite temperatures dropping quite low to across the to particularly across the northern of the uk. here they'll be a fairly harsh frost first thing morning and thing on monday morning and watch some icy patches watch out for some icy patches too. if you're taking to the roads showers roads because wintry showers falling could lead falling on frozen could lead to some conditions some difficult conditions through though. through monday itself, though. yes frosty start for yes a chilly frosty start for many , but quite bright one. many, but quite a bright one. lots sunshine to be had. it lots of sunshine to be had. it is likely to be the driest day of this week to come. that's because are going turn because things are going to turn a unsettled from a bit more unsettled from tuesday wet and windy tuesday with some wet and windy weather but weather to come. but temperatures creep up temperatures should creep up a little later, little bit to. see later, i don't gb news because i was sick and tired of hearing my views being represented not just mine but so people that i knew but so many people that i knew and spoke to. i just couldn't get my voice there. get my voice out there. i couldn't say anything. i couldn't say anything. i couldn't anything. whatever couldn't do anything. whatever

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legal reasons will appear before northampton magistrates later. you're up to date on tv derby plus radio online in this is gb news. now it's back to beth . news. now it's back to beth. now. did you spot the deliberate mistake before the news? when i said . i didn't know cyprus said. i didn't know cyprus played rugby. apparently it's a football match. my father's going to be so disgusted with me . born and bred of money, united fan. what can i say? i don't really follow sport more now. wales apparently take on croatia this evening . it's going to be this evening. it's going to be the first match since the retirement of gareth. i know who he is as. the new era begins and a manager role but page so after a manager role but page so after a will a nightmare world, wales will apparently be looking for a fresh start as page says the squadis fresh start as page says the squad is resetting reframing after going out in the group stage in qatar . joining me to

stage in qatar. joining me to discuss all this is ben , sports discuss all this is ben, sports journalist and football fanatic . ben, we were impressed by the way i that making it sound way i read that making it sound like remotely. what i was like a new remotely. what i was talking but i'm so glad talking about. but i'm so glad you're here. what is going on with voice? welsh tonight. with this voice? welsh tonight. what's the significance i what's the significance of. i don't . i think i should be don't know. i think i should be asking you the questions. it sounded very convincing to me. so congratulations. definitely sounded like you're into this qualifying . listen from wales is qualifying. listen from wales is perspective the big thing is that gareth bale has retired so it's to some extent the start of the new era . he was so the new era. he was so influential for wales . and influential for wales. and what's interesting about there being game is croatia themselves got a number of top stars and they themselves are starting age as well. they did very well in. the world cup, croatia, they ended finishing in third place. so it's not an easy opening game for wales . there's so it's not an easy opening game for wales. there's a so it's not an easy opening game for wales . there's a lot of for wales. there's a lot of debate around luka modric and how long he'll continue playing for croatia and if he can balance real madrid and croatia and then from wales his

perspective in the absence . perspective in the absence. bale. there's a lot of talk around ramsey, their captain and whether he can help galvanise that generations this is a good test for wales, but they're certainly not the favourites this evening not the ideal opener because if that form of croatia during the world cup there's a lot of young stars coming forwards and ramsey has got a big role to play as well. right. cyprus playing someone tonight. i can't remember. who was what did they say in the intro cyprus are playing england . no scotland. no a player in scotland not either. it's an ongoing game . the moment i can ongoing game. the moment i can tell you that scotland one nil up and it's going well again i think you've got the top nine not the very six cyprus england would be an one to see one day. but england have got ukraine coming up, which is a tough test as well it's been difficult times, of course for ukraine due to the war in ukraine and

there'll be an element i think if that match being about the emotion too and mcilroy modric for example who plays for chelsea and ukraine has been talking about the importance of that game in a wider context. but for england's of view, they're following from an excellent opening victory and where italy, where they hadn't won for the best part of six decades and now they'll be favourites to make it two wins out of two. and coming back to scotland big game for them against cyprus to get to a winning start it was a difficult opening. half hour or so the match at the moment is heading towards half time, but the last time i checked, scotland were 1:00 in that game and the fact they've got an early breakthrough is significant and they're playing at home as well. so expectation be so the full expectation will be that on and win that scotland can go on and win in a and. then from in group a and. then from england's point view, it's england's point of view, it's ukraine as their second qualifier, which is upcoming . qualifier, which is upcoming. when are the euro . i'm sorry when are the euro. i'm sorry ben. well the you were in that

question. when are they the euros are taking place germany and this is the early stage of qualifying now . so it won't be qualifying now. so it won't be until 2024, but qualifiers take place to allow for the 20 teams that will go through the groups stage to book their place . and stage to book their place. and then it gets a little bit complicated because there's also the nations league and i won't bore you with that , but in bore you with that, but in essence, that a playoff that allows three qualifiers plus hosts four plus 21st and second place from each of these groups. and that's how you get to the 24 teams that will qualify. okay, good.i teams that will qualify. okay, good. i mean, you said it then it gets bit complicated, as it gets a bit complicated, as you can see, ben. i'm already finding little bit finding this a little bit complicated. you all seem very patient. football so patient. football fans. so it's all qualifiers now and all the qualifiers are now and then euros next year, then the actual euros next year, 2024. where is i should know , 2024. where is i should know, euro 2024 is taking place in germany and, of course. variety

did you have a moment when you had to remind yourself why that was taking place or did you know? no. of i knew it's germany. i mean, they'd be in the qualifying if they were otherwise, not the hosts. so i used always goes through automatically . i think what's automatically. i think what's interesting about german bid interesting about the german bid for euro 2024 is some of the venues we know about leipzig and dortmund to munich and berlin but they'll be games in hamburg and dusseldorf as well. so it should be very interesting and think modern euros and what we need to learn , think with need to learn, think with everything generally in football , a world cup, a club world cup which is incoming, being expanded is the worth of something a bit more condensed and from a football point of view that was the benefit of qatar. doha was small. it felt like a one city world cup and. i think that the german euros is going to have that feel as well. it accessible it will be it will be accessible it will be easy get around. easy to get around. there's a lot of established stadiums that we know about, like the allianz

arena and everyone how arena and everyone knows how iconic is well. so iconic dortmund is as well. so it should be something very special but also accessible for the fans and off the back of qatar, where perhaps either didn't want go or couldn't didn't want to go or couldn't afford go . hopefully, this is afford to go. hopefully, this is going to be something that really european culture really brings european culture together but are the together, but germany are the hosts that make them one of hosts and that make them one of the favourites as well the the favourites as well on the football of because home football side of because home advantage be key in advantage can be very key in these games i do know . these two games that i do know. thank you, ben. ben jacobs there, sports having to deal with like but you've with an idiot like but you've been getting in on a big been getting in touch on a big topic early on in the show. i asked you about whether you trust police of. this trust the police of. this baroness report came baroness casey report that came out laurie, says out this week, laurie, says a minority bad people in any minority of bad people in any organisation hopefully they'll be majority of be dealt with the majority of police hard working police officers are hard working dedicated doing an extremely dedicated and doing an extremely difficult job in society that difficult job in a society that seems help bent on destroying that morale. good point, lowry allen says. i to respect the police. but when they started arresting people because someone hurt feelings and stopped being impartial, they lost my respect.

and it will take a lot for them to get it back. the only i would say in their defence, if they're being criticised in these in this report for not being sensitive to people's feelings, they thought they can't win really coming and on ulez expansion dismissing expansion pizza dismissing concerns air quality is concerns about air quality is not acceptable even it's not severe in certain areas air pollution is a significant risk. let's prioritise the health and wellbeing of our communities and work towards a sustainable future . i think peter, if future. i think peter, if everybody is poor and can't afford to afford to feed families because they can't take their van out to work, that's not i want to live in not a future i want to live in right cave coming in and do subscribe our youtube channel subscribe to our youtube channel at watching and at gb news. you watching and listening news saturday me listening to gb news saturday me 530 plenty. still come this 530 plenty. still to come this afternoon including nearly 700,000 car drivers inland and will face this daily £12.50 ultralow emission zone fee when the scheme expands . we've just the scheme expands. we've just been discussing it. i'm going to been discussing it. i'm going to be talking about it again in a moment. you're watching .

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gb news. welcome back . you're watching welcome back. you're watching and listening to gb news saturday with me bev turner today now nearly 700,000 car drivers in london will face daily £12, 50 ultralow emission zone when the scheme expands, according to new analysis, the rac carried the research and said the expansion of the zone from august 29th will have massive financial impact on motorists and businesses . but massive financial impact on motorists and businesses. but is this a success or failure for motorists in the capital? let's give me his thoughts this is give me his thoughts on this is done. give me his thoughts on this is done . dalton mccarthy good. good done. dalton mccarthy good. good afternoon to. you again don't occur. afternoon to. you again don't occur . colin afternoon to. you again don't occur. colin climate's columnist for the independent, of course. and you and i have spoken about this before. we much disagree on the urgency needed for this ulez. let me i will let you go first spell out why you first and spell out why you think this is necessary. we have

well, the fact is , is that the well, the fact is, is that the car pollution affects people's health in london. poor people in london are seven times more likely to suffer from lung diseases than non—poor people. the 4000 people are dying from premature pollution diseases , premature pollution diseases, according to the nhs . the according to the nhs. the magnificent thing about ulez is its impact positively on. it means a million less admissions to hospital over the next. by 2050 it means 300,000 people. less people will be disabled. surely beverly want to live in london with 300,000 people? not disabled? surely. that's a fantastic prize to aim for. well, 2001 to 2021, according to the un , there was one death the un, there was one death caused directly by car emissions . and what i worry about when , . and what i worry about when,

you talk about beverly. beverly that's a hilarious fact , is that that's a hilarious fact, is that in fact, that is a fact. the other thing i would just say about polling that the 4000 people have died prematurely yearin people have died prematurely year in london . and the one year in london. and the one person that you're referring to is that there was only one inquiry where they the deborah casas daughter , where the casas daughter, where the coroner found was definitely car pollution them. however, the university and the say very, very clearly that particulate pollution from cars is damaging lungs and killing in london you know would also people poverty. we agree on we on that poverty kills people than car fumes and introducing this ulez scheme so that people can't get to work they can't drive their vans they can't get their kids to school and then get onto the job that they want to do that is going to put into poverty.

put more people into poverty. thatis put more people into poverty. that is going to kill more people from this apocryphal idea that polluted which that we have polluted air, which is people. beverley you is killing people. beverley you again inventing . i mean if you again inventing. i mean if you really care about poverty , what really care about poverty, what you would care about every year for the last 12 years the government has raised transport failure for londoners going to work above inflation every year and they've reduced it for drivers and van driver it's gone £120 billion so and then to car drivers pockets with cuts in fuel duty but in london sorry in four public transport for people five in london the fares up every year and the tories are screaming about the units which is a tiny hundred thousand drivers have cut the free travel for 1.5 million pension earners and for 5 million public transport users. if you care about poverty, you should care about poverty, you should care about what the tories are doing to public transport in london. oh i do. oh, i do, don't i. i do immensely. my son last night going out for a drink 18 year

old, wanting get the train, a old, wanting to get the train, a few stops down the road. it was like six quid for train. but like six quid for his train. but this problem. it utter this is the problem. it is utter disgusting to have so many penalise measures the motorists whilst funding public transport because we don't all want to cycle. my son, i don't want him to cycle to the pub in the and come back square feet down the road having had a few beers. i don't wants to have to get on a bicycle to get my children to netball in the rain four miles down the road the restrictions on the motor list are going to make people unwell, unfit , make people unwell, unfit, unhappy, mentally on working on the test. but you're not any statistics that bear out facts. 95% of commuters to work in central do not use a car coming walking alone. you can use taschen glamour and if you do care about transport that you will look that's been raised, the tory insisted was right and they have cut . they have cut they have cut. they have cut

again and again duty for drivers. one and 20 building commission one on £20 billion are done for poor in london for the nhs. in london . absolutely the nhs. in london. absolutely disgraceful. what's being done with car drivers and the subsidy going to them the subsidies being seen the price of a tank petrol i mean most people on a normal wage can barely afford to use their car at the moment. so you're going to have your dream soon of some sort of cycling utopia . everybody just sits in utopia. everybody just sits in that same . we never meet as that same. we never meet as a car and sends london . 95% of car and sends london. 95% of london's do not use a car in central london to work. why are you talking about this elite user suv used to get around, but not the people use public transport. don't you care about the 1.5 million pensioners? when did you get on this programme talk about the 1.5 million pensioners who now have to pay to go and see their kids or take the kids school because the tory government free transport in the mornings in london . free

mornings in london. free transport is not necessarily what works everybody and i'm not just taught there's more to life than commuting is more to life and this is what me whenever we have this conversation like there is sort of a lack of humanity in terms of what life looks like because people just want to leave their house, go to work and come home at night like some little robots getting on and train or getting on a and off a train or getting on a bus, which never turn, bus, which frankly never turn, are overpriced and ordained often public transport often as well. public transport for women. this policy of clamping down cars it's clamping down on cars it's affects much more because are the ones who are more at risk on public. we don't care about the women whose lungs are being poisoned in london. don't poisoned in london. you don't care about hundreds, care about the hundreds, thousands who would thousands of women who would be disabled your policies. look, disabled by your policies. look, the wonderful about ulez is it's actually working half not pollution for women in central london and for the pensioners women in london know what pollution of their lungs . the pollution of their lungs. the pollution of their lungs. the pollution is not so demonstrable worse. and the other thing, you know , when you talk about lung know, when you talk about lung disease and the poor, that is

ridiculous to suggest that that is purely caused by engine emissions that is going to be down the accommodation which they can't to improve. it's going to be smoking, it's going to be lifestyle choices , it's to be lifestyle choices, it's going to be the kind of occupations, frankly, which are low paid in effect their health. there's a lot that we on there's a lot that we agree on don't occur. but the solution to is not to away choice of is not to take away choice of individual, that kind individual, to drive that kind of is perfectly of the risk. there is perfectly choice . you have a choice of choice. you have a choice of either using polluting vehicle to travel to central london or not and the mayor you're talking small companies. i mean , please small companies. i mean, please look at the facts. if you've got a small company or your sole trader, the mayor is giving £10,000 to help you switch to vehicle . that gives you vehicle. that gives you a choice. and what has happened in central london is , almost a huge central london is, almost a huge amount . those central london is, almost a huge amount. those small companies have switched and they now are delighted with cleaner and where it's a win win everybody. well, here we go how about that we don't keep giving taxpayers money to supplement not a green

agenda which is apparently we have you a miss decision which is the most important thing in the world when the british pubuc the world when the british public when asked about whether we wanted to make changes on the subject over know because you defend some complain there was climate me money i will give you money that is money that we are all conflict you complained poor drivers in london who are running business would have to pay running business would have to pay to actually pollute in central london and the mayor saying no you don't have to do we'll give you a grant to help you not polluting central london. that's a win means london. that's a win so it means we'll give you back your money, which, frankly, you should be allowed more of to allowed to keep more of to decide it don't occur. decide how you it don't occur. i always like toe to toe always like going toe to toe with you. i'm we could do with you. i'm sure. we could do this a bottle of wine one this over a bottle of wine one night and find a law that we do agree on. but thank you much, danica mccarthy. climate columnist for independent. columnist for the independent. as you know, we need as someone who you know, we need people we, people like that, don't we, trying to change the dial. but similarly, are similarly, we need those who are going back. the mayor going to push back. the mayor

has clear he that the has been clear he says that the decision expand the ultra low emission london was not an emission zone london was not an easy one but he has a duty to tackle toxic air pollution. his duty, nine out of vehicles duty, nine out of ten vehicles in already us in outer london already us compliance. ulez is very compliance. the ulez is a very scheme about getting scheme which is about getting off most highly off the road the most highly polluting are damaging polluting vehicles are damaging everyone's health, including the drivers hope that the drivers well. i do hope that the mayor london also up mayor of london also gives up his blacked range over the his blacked out range over the first state visit of king charles to france has been postponed because protests postponed because of protests across tens of across the country. tens of thousands have thousands of people have been demonstrating against the government's the government's to raise the pension age from 62 to 64. the king was expected arrive on sunday as part of a week long trip to europe. the french president macron said the president macron said that the visit would have lacked sense and suggested a date later and has suggested a date later in the summer. well, joining me now to discuss this more is caroline aston. good morning, caroline. good royal commentator caroline. good royal commentator caroline , is this the right caroline, is this the right decision, do you think, for prince charles to postpone this visit against this backdrop of a riot ? well, the optics of this

riot? well, the optics of this would be rather difficult, wouldn't they? this glittering state banquet that had been planned . the chateau of planned. the chateau of versailles. well, there are all those past royal ghosts of french royal history lurking in the corners . i think french royal history lurking in the corners. i think this is the right decision . obviously, the right decision. obviously, the state visit would have been long in the planning as these events always are. but i think it would be a very bad look for the king to arrive at this time when we have scenes in the streets of paris, certainly rubbish piled up very like own winter of discontent . so i think it's discontent. so i think it's probably very tactful. the right thing to do and i'm very sorry for president macron who obviously saw this visit as if you like the cop till cherry on the sun of his bromance with rishi sunak . all very rishi sunak. all very interesting nicely put . let me interesting nicely put. let me ask you about the prince of prince of wales william we still think the prince of wales. we're

still struggling we to not see that as well. yes. takes a bit of getting used to. he was in poland earlier this week. how do think he's getting on how do you think he's getting on how do you think he's getting on how do you think he's in the eyes of the pubuc think he's in the eyes of the public he's sort of just quite separate to his brother . very separate to his brother. very different . i think as the days, different. i think as the days, the hours tick away, the contrast between camp montecito and the prince and princess sets of wales out there doing this becomes ever greater. of wales out there doing this becomes ever greater . and i must becomes ever greater. and i must admit it was a very encouraging gesture to see him one hour from the ukrainian there in poland visiting people dislocated from their families getting down beside children. i think comes across as a warm family. beside children. i think comes across as a warm family . and of across as a warm family. and of course, it underlines the point that for the monarchy to be today, it has to be visible . as today, it has to be visible. as the queen herself used to say , the queen herself used to say, you have to be seen to be believed . and i think both he believed. and i think both he and his wife are making a very good job of this. but, of course, we're all waiting to see what will happen on coronation

day if camp montecito will be able to resist the lure of the pubuchy able to resist the lure of the publicity that will be generated that they think might burnish their reputation , which is their reputation, which is a little under attack . the little under attack. the worldwide privacy episode of south park, for one thing, or will they stay ? i'm moving will they stay? i'm moving towards the sussexes, not coming because of course the contrast will be great and there are rumours that people are angry enough about some of the backwash of course, from the there that really might be demonstrations in the seat but whatever happens you know , i whatever happens you know, i think that the whole thing has already slightly tarnished by fact that attention has lifted from king charles. the third is coronation something he's waited all these long years for. already the focus turns more towards cardiff on europe times than maybe it should. interesting times . lie ahead . interesting times. lie ahead.

let me ask you about another royal story that was in the press this week. this is the crown, the high budget netflix series , very controversial. series, very controversial. they've announced they're going to be showing a scene with , a to be showing a scene with, a replica of princess diana's car from crash. how do you respond to that story, caroline? it's just is it not? well, yes but i think it's rather tasteless , think it's rather tasteless, actually, in view of what we're coming up to now. a coronation , coming up to now. a coronation, may. and of course, it's only this last series that they have put the disclaimer on. this is a cunous put the disclaimer on. this is a curious mixture of, put the disclaimer on. this is a curious mixture of , fact and curious mixture of, fact and fiction faction, if you like, such difficult scene to re—enact . difficult certainly for her two sons to know is going to be put out there. and of course the thing about the crown is that an awful lot of people's view of the monarchy is dictated by those scripts. who knows what was in private? who knows what was in private? who knows what was between a husband and wife behind closed doors and the name

of the game , after all for of the game, after all for netflix is to sell the series, get as many people watching it as possible. i have my strong reservations about reconstructing that particular scene. we're all well aware what happened the great tragedy and i suppose the greatest tragedy of all both for the then concerned and lady diana spencer was that they both didn't marry different people . yeah. just in a word. people. yeah. just in a word. briefly do you watch it as a royal commentator commentator? do you watch the crown? does it add anything to your knowledge base, which is already very deep, if you want me? to be honest, i often have a box tissues by my side and throw them drift. well, them where they drift. well, apart from what i know to be, the truth is true. and the truth is that the tissue doesn't damage the television, of course. but certainly course. but it certainly relieves feelings. right. relieves my feelings. all right. thank much . ousted royal thank you so much. ousted royal commentator there. you know, in tv news, we have the best royal commentators don't. we they're all absolutely brilliant, right . have loved being with you . i have loved being with you for it's quite a long

for 3 hours. it's quite a long time, isn't it? this programme will be back tomorrow from midday . will leave you with the midday. will leave you with the weather. see next week. hello looking head through the rest of the weekend . it is going to turn the weekend. it is going to turn a little bit colder for and there will be some showery rain around but it's in the south where things are really going to turn quite wet and windy as we go tonight. and that's go through tonight. and that's because this area of low pressure its associated pressure and, its associated fronts all this is going to fronts, all this is going to push towards uk and across push towards the uk and across southern as through southern parts as go through this overnight . take this evening and overnight. take a though, through a closer look, though, through the saturday and you can see the of saturday and you can see that some showery rain affecting northern of the uk northern parts of the uk particular there'll be some particular and there'll be some ness over the ground too . ness over the high ground too. here south where here it's in the south where we have wet and windy weather have that wet and windy weather i that's going have that wet and windy weather i push that's going have that wet and windy weather i push its that's going have that wet and windy weather i push its way that's going have that wet and windy weather i push its way acrossat's going have that wet and windy weather i push its way across a s going have that wet and windy weather i push its way across a little|g to push its way across a little bit unsettled as to how far bit of unsettled as to how far north is going to north that rain is going to reach. but it could be pretty heavy with perhaps up to 30 millimetres some places millimetres in some places because of the the wind, because of the cloud, the wind, the south the rain in the south temperatures staying temperatures here staying relatively though, relatively mild. north, though, a some frost here a clear picture some frost here and icy patches and perhaps some icy patches because wintry showers.

because of some wintry showers. first sunday morning first thing on sunday morning through though, through sunday morning, though, we the weather we will see the cloudy weather across parts clearing across southern parts clearing away. so is going to turn away. so it is going to turn dnen away. so it is going to turn drier, fairly cloudy, drier, albeit fairly cloudy, cloudy of an today for sure. for most places, sunshine breaking out northern of northern out towards northern of northern ireland and also across of scotland. in between any that are pushing down on that northerly flow and that northerly flow and it's that northerly flow and it's that northerly flow and it's that northerly flow means northerly flow that means temperatures to be temperatures are going to be markedly compared today temperatures are going to be mewe dly compared today temperatures are going to be mewe go compared today temperatures are going to be mewe go throughympared today temperatures are going to be mewe go through theared today temperatures are going to be mewe go through the end today temperatures are going to be mewe go through the end of today temperatures are going to be mewe go through the end of the |y as we go through the end of the day tomorrow. and for many, it is to be largely dry. the is going to be largely dry. the cloud somewhat. so cloud will break somewhat. so we'll more clear skies as we we'll see more clear skies as we go through sunday night into, monday. cold monday. and with that cold northerly wind, we are likely see dropping quite northerly wind, we are likely see particularlyiropping quite northerly wind, we are likely see particularly acrossg quite northerly wind, we are likely see particularly across theiite low to particularly across the northern the uk here. northern half of the uk here. there'll harsh frost there'll be a fairly harsh frost first thing on monday morning and out for some icy and watch out for some icy patches you're taking patches too. if you're taking the that's because wintry the roads. that's because wintry showers could showers on frozen surfaces could lead some conditions through lead to some conditions through monday yes, a monday, though. yes, it's a chilly frosty start for many, but quite a bright one. lots of sunshine to be had. it is likely to be that dry ice day of this week to come because things are

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