hello you're watching or listening to andrew pierce here on news and with you until 2:00. here's what's coming up. what are know about sue grey's appointment as cast.7 thomas chief of staff sue gray course, was the senior civil servant who did into partygate, did that report into partygate, which wrecked which effectively wrecked boris johnson's premiership. so was it an impartial report and should her appointment be blocked .7 more her appointment be blocked.7 more leaks. hancock whatsapp leaks. matt hancock whatsapp messages suggesting team ask if they could lock up nigel farage for breaking lockdown rules. i wonder how you've taken to that

also can bruise the radio presenter with the biggest audience anywhere in britain bowing out from the bbc today because of course he's too old at 72. joining me the next i was going to be the conservative peen going to be the conservative peer, lord vaizey . and you at peer, lord vaizey. and you at home, of course, are such an important part of the show. email me at gb views at gbnews.uk. that's what's coming up this hour and more. but first, the latest news . good first, the latest news. good afternoon. it's 12:01. i'm rhiannon afternoon. it's12:01. i'm rhiannon jones the gb newsroom conservative mp jacob rees—mogg is calling for a proper inquiry into sue gray appointment as sir keir starmer's chief of staff. the senior servant led an independent investigation partygate, but it was announced that she was leaving the civil to join the labour party . allies to join the labour party. allies of boris johnson have condemned her new role with the tory party chair, calling it inappropriate. mr. rees—mogg says the appointment invalidates report

into lockdown breaches at number 10. former mp accepted her two reports on the strict that she was impartial and not now looks wrong . no confidence can be wrong. no confidence can be placed . the evidence she secured placed. the evidence she secured or passed the police. so instead there should be an investigation into her and to her appointment. we should have an inquiry into what she has done in her contacts with labour while she's been a civil servant, particularly those with the office of the leader of the opposition. further leaked whatsapp messages by march . whatsapp messages by march. hancock suggest his team asked if they could lock up nigel farage for being a pub hooligan and breaking lockdown rules . the and breaking lockdown rules. the messages revealed by the telegraph were allegedly sent in 2020 after mr. farage shared a video of himself drinking at a pub a fortnight earlier. he was at a trump rally in the us covid lockdown rules. anyone coming to england from abroad was required to quarantine for 14 days or face a £1,000 fine at the time.

mr. farish said he wasn't breaking quarantine rules. however, he has since he probably was . what i was probably was. what i was photographed that day, the pubs open. had i reached full 14 days. well it was a bit nip and i think proper late. i hadn't quite reached time. i always made sure i used hand sanitiser , made sure i used hand sanitiser i , made sure i used hand sanitiser , i always kept my distance from people i. i have to say, you know, bad laws and bad laws make people lawbreakers , councillors people lawbreakers, councillors martin and mark gordon will appearin martin and mark gordon will appear in court today after. the remains of a baby were found in brighton. the pair have been charged with gross manslaughter, concealing birth of a child and perverting course of justice. the body of a newborn was found in an area of woodland in holland on wednesday after a two day search. the couple who arrested on monday will appear at crawley magistrates court .

at crawley magistrates court. the hs2 project could be delayed in an attempt to kerb rising . in an attempt to kerb rising. that's according to the project's executive. the line is supposed provide a faster rail service between london and manchester, but there are reports it may no longer run to its planned terminal at euston as a cost saving measure. the project chief executive now says the impact of inflation means they're having to look at ways of reducing costs , including the of reducing costs, including the timing and phasing of the project project . mp neil coyle project project. mp neil coyle has apologised in the house of commons and he's ashamed of behaviour after he was found to have breached parliament's bullying and harassment policy. independent expert panel has recommended a five day suspension for the former labour politician and follows reports foul mouthed and drunken of another mp . assistant he is also another mp. assistant he is also accused of bullying and harassing a parliamentary . both harassing a parliamentary. both instances place in a commons bar

and nobel peace prize winner and. pro—democracy activists has been sentenced in a belarus court to ten years in prison for funding protests . ali harbi ali funding protests. ali harbi ali chatzky , whose human rights chatzky, whose human rights group provided legal and financial aid to protesters dunng financial aid to protesters during a 2020 wave of unrest in belarus has also been convicted of tax evasion. he claims he's being persecuted for political reasons. russian news agency tass reporting on the sentencing , says the verdict is likely to be strongly condemned by the west west and it may well be much better. cold weather alerts being issued parts of the uk at the start of next week. the uk health security agency says. freezing temperatures and wintry showers are forecast england from monday bringing with it a risk of ice. the met office, meanwhile, has issued a snow for parts of scotland and the north—east of england. the cold snapis north—east of england. the cold snap is expected to last until midnight on wednesday . this is

midnight on wednesday. this is gb news i'll bring you more as it happens. now, though, it's back to andrew . back to andrew. you know, it's impossible to exaggerate the importance of good governance, of a scraped, pristine, impartial civil service . so the credibility of service. so the credibility of senior civil servants to grace report into partygate, which wrecked boris johnson's time as prime minister, rested on her supposed unimpeachable impartiality. we know just eight months after her report dropped, she's not just in labour's support. she's to be chief of staff . less to labour leader staff. less to labour leader quest drama destroying the civil service reputation for impartiality. the service reputation for impartiality . the appointment impartiality. the appointment can be blocked . i think it can be blocked. i think it should be. i'm joined now by the associate editor of the daily telegraph. of course, gb news very own presenter, camilla tominey camilla, hello to you. i have to say very rarely when we

do our job in, politics does my do ourjob in, politics does my jaw drop . when i heard that sue jaw drop. when i heard that sue gray had got this job with starmer. my jaw hit, gray had got this job with starmer. my jaw hit , the floor. starmer. my jaw hit, the floor. it quite extraordinary, isn't it? i it quite extraordinary, isn't it.7 i mean , if you think that it.7 i mean, if you think that the report wasn't a stitch up of bofis the report wasn't a stitch up of boris johnson , in fact, he boris johnson, in fact, he himself said that he felt vindicated by the report say it could have got a lot harder than it actually did. even if you don't think that, you still might think that there's a degree of an appropriate witness to somebody who's in that privileged civil service position. doubt in the position. no doubt in the possession of a huge amount sensitive information, then walking straight from that role to the leader of the opposition office and acting as sir keir starmer's right hand woman , i starmer's right hand woman, i mean, it just does smell decidedly iffy. of there are questions to be asked about when she started negotiations with keir starmer over this job. if it was weeks or months ago, as the times has reported today. then of course, serious questions need to be asked about

her impartiality with regard to the partygate probe. if she was having an additional dialogue as to her career prospects , the to her career prospects, the labour leader's office. the also we pointed out in the daily mail today she she blocked somebody from number 10 going to the house of lords for 12 months because she thought there had to because she thought there had to be a decent space between the two jobs. she's breaking her own rules there because she wants to start with keir starmer right away. i mean, i think the instant nature of her resignation has also raised eyebrows. this idea suddenly she's left this job. i mean, i think the first that the cabinet secretary simon case heard of it was when news broke. i don't think he was given warning, which, again , suggests a degree which, again, suggests a degree of heaviness about the entire process . i mean, i think if you process. i mean, i think if you are in that robust civil service role and you're supported by people that keep banging on about impartiality and nothing to see here, that there shouldn't be any fear of an investigation. the whole thing

should be probed . think the should be probed. think the cabinet office are looking at it, and rightly so. i think anyone civil service who anyone in the civil service who defends civil service as defends the civil service as being won't have being impartial won't have anything worry about by an anything to worry about by an investigation are you surprised investigation. are you surprised she's taken this job because . she's taken this job because. everything i'd read about her written about her prior to this where she was supposed to be shrewd in impartiality. a model civil servant. do you think she didn't realise just how big a role this would trigger .7 i'm not role this would trigger? i'm not sure really. i mean , it's hard sure really. i mean, it's hard to be able to speak on her behalf. i don't know her personally. i have actually thought very good things about and isn't particularly and that she isn't particularly political in inverted commas and lots of people do speak to her sense of professionalism, dedication , the job and hard dedication, the job and hard work. so at the same time, i think those people who are her allies all surprised by her taking the decision and the rapidity of it. i think are some in the civil service this sort of scratching their heads, wondering whether she did predict that it would call this fallout. but i think to be

unked fallout. but i think to be linked to the partygate probe on hand and then to be linked to keir starmer on the other, isn't the best look. and of you alluded to that in your first answer she's in charge of and propriety. she may know of all sorts of other investigations that are underway into perhaps conservative mp, liberal democrat mps and working in the cabinet office. she's got access to all sorts of highly sensitive government information which she can take all, all with her to her new job in the labour hq. yes, i mean, to be fair there will be a strong argument to suggest that people can leave newspapers and go to other newspapers. people can leave companies and go to other companies and go to other companies and go to other companies and they don't share sensitive information and that might scupper their previous employer the same time employer. but at the same time yeahi employer. but at the same time yeah i think that's why the cabinet office is right to look at this and to ask these questions, to say, well, look what, information has she been party to what information be potentially prejudicial, party to what information be potentially prejudicial , the potentially prejudicial, the government, should she take it to leaders is she to the leaders and how is she

going to manage what she knows in regard to her new job? can i ask you about, in regard to her new job? can i ask you about , the telegraph's ask you about, the telegraph's ongoing lockdown files? think it's what is it? day three. day four. now the latest . talking four. now the latest. talking about how the were pleased that the police were so actively taking arresting people putting people in court for apparently breaking lockdown rules. yeah i'm just having a look at the front page here. so shameless plug, but we are to have to get happy with the police. and that's a quote from matt hancock. and i think what today's beg the question of is why. hancock has health secretary was involved in any decision making . it came to decision making. it came to police enforcement . we've got police enforcement. we've got some quite interesting analysis here. obviously, the police are pushing back on it about the independence of the police force from government and yet at the same time, a great number of messages exchanged about how they wanted the police to go heavy on the public . now, heavy on the public. now, i think the public understands

that there was a need to enforce some of these rules, even if they didn't agree with them. but we know those cases where we know of those cases where a sledgehammer used to crack sledgehammer was used to crack and not we won't forget when we that the two women who met in derbyshire on a park with a cup of coffee and were fined 200 quid because the police accused them of holding a picnic. i mean, they did apologise for that. and the ladies got their money back, but it did enormous damage not only to people's questioning of the rules, their legitimacy, unprecedented legitimacy, this unprecedented enforcement , our own civil enforcement, our own civil liberties , but also the police's liberties, but also the police's rather heavy handed behaviour towards people who were trying towards people who were trying to make the best fist of a very difficult situation and commit a lot of nigel farage of course, because that some delicious in your files today about the police and ministers wanting the police and ministers wanting the police to go and arrest nigel farage for allegedly breaking lockdown rules. yes is he a pub hoougan lockdown rules. yes is he a pub hooligan that ? may be. it just hooligan that? may be. it just that may be a discussion for another day with nigel. i mean

it does lay bare the ludicrous nature of some of the messages and in respect, you nature of some of the messages and in respect , you know, the and in respect, you know, the joking around some of the rhetoric. look at the end of the day, i think that we some might argue that if all of our whatsapps were published and we'd all probably be revealed to have some choice, unwise have made some choice, unwise remarks in this case, though, the of trying to throw nigel farage in prison for having a pint perhaps the forms 14 day quarantine period ended does speak to the ludicrous nature of some of these rules. i mean you know don't enforce rules on the pubuc know don't enforce rules on the public that are almost impossible to follow . there's impossible to follow. there's also some other stuff that is jokey by those involved , but i jokey by those involved, but i mean, wouldn't have been felt have been funny by the people who had affected, for instance , who had affected, for instance, this joke about whether people were going into quarantine, hotels . and at some point matt hotels. and at some point matt hancock says to simon case oh, 147 people have gone into quarantine hotels voluntarily and simon case, the cabinet

secretary then replies, hilarious . well, it wasn't hilarious. well, it wasn't hilarious for the people that happened to do that. instead of going back to work because just find you on this, camilla. there's a huge of words, predictably, between matt hancock, who , of course, hancock, who, of course, published his own rather different pandemic diaries and isabel oakeshott, the journalist who wrote them him. he says it's the appalling breach of trust and faith . and she signed and faith. and she signed a non—disclosure agreement . she non—disclosure agreement. she argues , all in the public argues, all in the public interest . argues, all in the public interest. i'm argues, all in the public interest . i'm with her. it is argues, all in the public interest. i'm with her. it is in the public interest. of it's in the public interest. of it's in the public interest. i mean , the public interest. i mean, anyone who thinks that the most important aspect of this story is isabella needs to perhaps take a long, hard look at themselves. what we've got here is a commitment to interrupt you can i've got some breaking news. just just one moment. that's camilla tominey former prime minister boris former prime minister boris former prime minister boris former prime minister boris johnson will give evidence to the privileges committee in the week beginning march the 20th, on the inquiry into whether he lied to parliament. the committee told

today. parliament. the committee told today . in the studio with me, of today. in the studio with me, of course , is advocacy. so this is course, is advocacy. so this is bofis course, is advocacy. so this is boris johnson this this privileges committee investigation could bring the end of his political career . end of his political career. yes. i mean, following the twists in terms of partygate and what it means and whether because boris, of course got up at the dispatch box and said there parties at number there were no parties at number 10 so so the accusation 10 and so on. so the accusation is that lied to parliament and people think that is a very people think that this is a very dangerous moment for boris johnson gives evidence to johnson if he gives evidence to this the committee this committee and the committee finds could finds against him they could sanction suspend sanction in they could suspend him from the house him potentially from the house of commons. and would be of commons. and that would be obviously i don't obviously extremely i don't think eject him from obviously extremely i don't thin house eject him from obviously extremely i don't thin house of eject him from obviously extremely i don't thin house of commons,i from obviously extremely i don't thin house of commons, butm obviously extremely i don't thin house of commons, but with the house of commons, but with a form, prime minister get form, a prime minister get suspended from the house of commons. serious. pretty commons. serious. it's a pretty serious thing. that committee is chaired labour chaired by the labour mp, harriet who know has harriet harman, who we know has already public, say that already gone public, say that bofis already gone public, say that boris the rules boris johnson broke the rules long was in long before she was put in charge of committee . so charge of this committee. so she's mind up already. she's made her mind up already. now the report is now the sue gray report is interesting. that was going to form a part the form a large part of the committee's deliberations. yeah is disqualified from

is that now disqualified from the privileges committee investigation ? because people investigation? because people are rightly calling into are now rightly calling into question whether she was and observer. we don't know when started talking to keir starmer but is going to be his chief of staff . well i mean this sue gray staff. well i mean this sue gray on this one i don't think i don't think her report is compromised in any shape or form. and to just clear, i defended boris johnson endlessly over partygate when the whole round was going on. i was programmes like this all the time i think it time saying i didn't think it was resigning matter. a was resigning matter. i'm a lockdown myself anyway. lockdown sceptic myself anyway. i can understand why people are so oakeshott. so angry, but isabel oakeshott. i went on a programme with i once went on a programme with her was god of absolute her when she was god of absolute click going boris because of click going for boris because of course a lockdown course she a lockdown sceptic couldn't the that the couldn't bear the fact that the people made these terrible people who made these terrible rules were breaking them. but i defended boris on that. but having so, know , having said that, so, you know, you your introduction it you said in your introduction it was months i do not was eight months ago, i do not believe that sue gray was talking keir starmer, eight talking to keir starmer, eight months, if was i agree, that months, if she was i agree, that could be a factor. secondly, sue gray is a kind you know, she's like reservoir dogs know she

cleans messes she's been cleans up the messes she's been trusted prime ministers for trusted by prime ministers for decades. trusted by prime ministers for decades . she interviewed me for decades. she interviewed me for the ofcom job, which went to michael grade . she carried out michael grade. she carried out bofis michael grade. she carried out boris johnson's orders , make boris johnson's orders, make sure that michael craig got the job. i didn't get the job. she followed for prime minister's time and again and cleaning up their messes. don't forget, she only got the inquiry because simon case couldn't do it because he was compromised. wasn't his life. she got the money her way. it is a labour mole to get the inquiry there. so she's going to go back camilla tominey. camilla, what do now do you think? boris johnson now we've for when he's we've got a date for when he's going to go before this committee. it's the sue gray report now. too toxic to be a part committee's part of that committee's considerations. not sure. considerations. i'm not sure. i mean, the end of the day, partygate happened. i think the bigger question around this particular inquiry , the notion particular inquiry, the notion of whether he knowingly misled parliament or not. you know, the tory supporters argument with this is that the goalposts been shifted and rather than just

knowingly misled parliament. this is not going to be an inquiry about whether he misled parliament, which is a far bigger for , which him his bigger remit for, which him his likelihood to become be found guilty is much bigger. so i think not a great day for him or indeed champions. but then you could arguably that with rishi sunak having secured his brexit deal sunak having secured his brexit deal, it's not been a great for bofis deal, it's not been a great for boris johnson. full stop just on that. boris johnson. full stop just on that . do you detect any that. do you detect any diminution of support that deal in or tory mp still is gung the more people are going into the detail, the less some people are . they like it . well, i think . they like it. well, i think that in the background of the brexiteers are waiting for the star chamber of lawyers to give them their verdict on this . i'm them their verdict on this. i'm not hearing overwhelm and only encouraging mood music from them, but they're holding their counsel also the dup. again, you know we haven't got their full verdict on it. we heard from bofis verdict on it. we heard from boris johnson of the soft power summit yesterday saying that he didn't really like the deal and

he'd rather they stuck with the northern ireland protocol bill. now, he wouldn't he. but now, he would, wouldn't he. but i this initial sort of i think this initial sort of very music from likes very warm mood music from likes of lee anderson and others has been slightly watered down. and i'll be very intrigued to see what people are saying in the brexiteers barton the brexiteers barton camp come the weekend . absolute. that's weekend. absolute. that's camilla don't forget , camilla tominey. don't forget, you her here every you can see her here every sunday morning with her fabulous political show, vaizey. lord political show, ed vaizey. lord vaizey sue gray. so you're. do you think there should be a penod you think there should be a period of time elapsing before she leaves that job in the cabinet which she's already left and takes up that job with keir starmer ? so i pointed out we, starmer? so i pointed out we, point out in the mail today there was somebody involved in a senior job there was somebody involved in a seniorjob in number 10, been appointed the house of laws. appointed to the house of laws. she wouldn't like to take up that it was that year. let that job. it was that year. let me tell i'll tell you when me just tell i'll tell you when i charge of tenure. no, i don't think should necessarily be think they should necessarily be a i mean, in some ways a period of i mean, in some ways we should rejoicing, you we should be rejoicing, you know. starmer is leader of know. keir starmer is leader of the never held the opposition. he's never held a minister, bit like

a cabinet minister, a bit like david when he became it david cameron when he became it was it was today it was was it was just today it was laura while she the head of laura while she was the head of the street honesty. the downing street honesty. she's great member of the she's a great member of the house while she was but house of lords while she was but well gray delayed well because sue gray delayed appointment for a well i think we rejoice that gray we should rejoice that sue gray is for keir is going to work for keir starmer democrats. we want is going to work for keir sta|leader democrats. we want is going to work for keir sta|leader ofamocrats. we want is going to work for keir sta|leader of the :rats. we want is going to work for keir sta|leader of the oppositionant is going to work for keir sta|leader of the opposition who the leader of the opposition who could potentially our next could potentially be our next prime be fully prime minister to be fully versed in the workings of government and the very senior person. senior person person. as a senior person working going working for him, who's going to show to navigate show him how to navigate whitehall, if he whitehall, get done if he becomes minister. becomes prime minister. and that's means certain that's by no means certain and no don't sue gray is the no, don't think sue gray is the sort person going to sort of person he's going to come a couple feet of come within a couple feet of trump, like with couple boxes of classified and dump them on his deskif classified and dump them on his desk if they go for it. in fact, given this row it's even more unlikely that she. but i don't think i don't know sue gray met her a few times, but i know her reputation and i don't think she'd because it would she'd do that because it would compromise if compromise her position. and if they are going to go into government, you know, sue gray wants ensure that the people wants to ensure that the people working government working for that government don't didn't breached

don't. she didn't breached confidentiality just kind of where and then when where she was. and then when keir guest becomes prime keir starmer guest becomes prime is could just brought is he could have just brought her number. yes. it's her into a number. yes. it's very, noble for her to give very, very noble for her to give up her civil service career, take the brickbats from the press get the press in order to get the opposite leader oven ready opposite asian leader oven ready right you become right now what have you become prime me ask you prime minister let me ask you the lockdown the matt hancock is flailing he's lashing out at isabel oakeshott but isn't about the how the information got into the how the information got into the public domain. it's in the pubuc the public domain. it's in the public yeah and in the public it's about what ministers were . it's about what ministers were. yes. and what they were saying on whatsapp. the row over whether schools should have closed. latest are closed. yes. this the latest are talking about today. we want the police get aggressive police get really aggressive with public we need to know with the public we need to know all yeah well i mean all this. yeah well i mean well done to telegraph as done to the telegraph as a victim of the expenses. well, i didn't at the time. didn't i was there at the time. i might have been fooled. you saw orange trouble. saw the orange trouble. horrible, sick feeling . horrible, kind of sick feeling. moment of with when telegraph email came through for every mp, it was absolute. what did you do

wrong? it was hell on earth furniture. i've got them for you to spend on it. we can look it up in wikipedia. it's still this thousands desperate to get it on pavilion. you went to one of those posh shops in new. yes. yeah. do you have to go to go to people watching this. good. you went to up—market shop and you spent a lot money on your bed. oh, i remember now i don't think i bought a brightly okay. is okay and why that your head okay then and why that your head and public inquiry will be and the public inquiry will be coming up what april may labour saying it should have been a lot sooner it's a bit rich coming for them, isn't it? when did the iraq war. well i mean what i mean i mean it's not a great it's a great scoop for the telegraph i personally telegraph. i personally think it's way to behave when it's a great way to behave when i i think it's unusual i mean, i think it's unusual that matt hancock was able use his whatsapp messages to write book will be he gave all the profits charity he was profits to charity but he was apparently done in apparently it was done in conjunction with the cabinet office and isabella oakeshott was on board. i went to was brought on board. i went to the matt hancock

the launch of matt hancock stories and i could sort of sense isabel wasn't entirely happy with the experience. so i think an element she told me. yeah, she didn't like him at all. and i think that is a, i think there's an element of it was difficult to work with you were in government was it. yes. nightmare. terrible to work with. he was a deputy chair of the cabinet subcommittee that i chaired and he was difficult. it makes it would be no surprise that he was very quickly coached . right. because he was a control freak. well, i mean you know, i mean, ijust, control freak. well, i mean you know, i mean, i just, you know , know, i mean, ijust, you know, i've never really understood ambition, but people are just hung up on titles and, you know, i just chalk that on the cabinet. yeah. he never did. well, you can imagine when i was sacked when i was sacked by theresa may from that theresa may from job that i absolutely loved and that's tick on the chin. yeah. six years until an hour later, somebody rang and said, hancock , rang and said, matt hancock, scott, every outside scott, your job every outside facing lord vaizey. coming up after the break, going to talk

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after all, today and all those who've impacted by her. who've been impacted by her. we're going to talk about that a little bit, i just want to little bit, but i just want to come before go on to come back before we go on to that advising boris that subject, advising boris johnson be an incredibly johnson can be an incredibly performer. yes, but not great on detail. and when he goes before that privileges committee , he's that privileges committee, he's going to have to be on best behaviour and he's got be on good form. yes. well he's earning a lot of money at the moment so hopefully he's had some good lawyers and i think is a very fair point. boris is a busker, much every time busker, it works much every time when he's giving when even when he's giving speeches, but they will probably be. already alluded to be. you've already alluded to the chair harriet the fact the chair is harriet harman. probably be harman. there will probably be a forensic line by line and forensic on a line by line and analysis what he said the analysis of what he said in the commons. what actually we know now actually happened in downing street to kind of street and an attempt to kind of say know , what do you mean say, you know, what do you mean by party? and so on? so he's got to be right. i mean, now again, i am sympathetic to boris. i know boris johnson. you know bofis know boris johnson. you know boris needed boris johnson in a crowd is hail fellow. well met but he's actually quite i think quite a shy and reserved person

and don't he kind you know and i don't he kind of you know got on down at these party and passed the red wine but but i also think he's quite an easy bloke and if people are doing stuff he sort of probably found it quite difficult. hey on this is completely beyond the bounds does as we know does it. as we know he has a lockdown sceptic. in fact, i think of the good things think one of the good things from whatsapp dump is from the whatsapp dump is i think, know, i am the think, you know, i am on the side of boris people saying, oh, this terrible he he this is a terrible thing he he wanted old to die or wanted the old to die or whatever but boris, know, whatever but boris, you know, you could him fighting what you could see him fighting what he was saying, sake. he was saying, goodness sake. you you think twice just you know, you think twice just on the on the lockdown. does it matter ? he misled parliament or matter? he misled parliament or into he misled parliament. there is a big difference. yeah, i think there is a massive difference. that's the point. i think there's a massive difference. you might have known . i mean, you the point the reason i tweeted on partygate is if everyone is working 18 hour days in downing street, i fail to see why adding a glass of red wine to that mixing increased the risk of trans mission. and

if boris said , as far as i was if boris said, as far as i was concerned, people were in downing street all the time. and you know, if they if they had, i would not have. somebody had would not have. if somebody had a of red wine, that's a a glass of red wine, that's a party did he know that people were kind of throwing red wine on and dancing two in on the walls and dancing two in the morning and bringing karaoke machines? was a civil machines? and it was a civil say, yeah. so say, bringing them in. yeah. so know easily have stood know i could easily have stood up the dispatch if i'd had up at the dispatch if i'd had bofis up at the dispatch if i'd had boris job and said, as boris johnson's job and said, as far there were no far as i'm aware, there were no parties. and i think there is a big difference knowingly lying and misleading. and unintentionally misleading. commons . so it's commons fascinating. so it's march the 20th is the date boris johnson robust about this and he says that he will defend himself at this committee gb news political catherine forster joins you now . catherine this is joins you now. catherine this is keenly awaited march the 20th. it's going to be all eyes on boris and harriet harman. and of course, boris will make the point that harriet harman has already made her view clear. she said in the commons he broke the

rules yet she's chairing rules and yet she's chairing this committee to decide whether he misled parliament. well, indeed, yes, some concern about that. but this is long awaited, isn't we've been waiting for months and months and months to really hear from the privileges committee and what they are up to and. of course, with all partygate being revisited yesterday , this is all very yesterday, this is all very topical now. so the report about 30 pages was published by the privileges committee , just about privileges committee, just about 12:10. and we know that they are saying this is not about partygate. they're not interested digging that over is purely about boris johnson and whether or not he knowingly missed led parliament. now they've stressed about there's 100 instances a year of mps misleading parliament inadvertently. so the question is if he really is now i haven't

had a chance to read the whole thing yet, but they are saying that breaches of coronavirus guidance have been obvious to bofis guidance have been obvious to boris johnson at several events he attended and they published pictures . so that doesn't sound pictures. so that doesn't sound good. and boris johnson obviously or the beginning 20th of march will have a lot of questions to answer and that will be very keenly awaited for what he says . all right. that's what he says. all right. that's catherine forster with us in downing street, ed vaizey, that they are saying knowingly, intentionally misled. yes i i've beeni intentionally misled. yes i i've been i just believe that boris johnson did knowingly that he was then. now, you and i both know that politicians can, but one economical economically skilled child swingle broken because apparently two people having sex on it. i what was bofis having sex on it. i what was boris johnson then . i wasn't boris johnson then. i wasn't there at the time. i remember if two people were having sex either but this was during lockdown when people were

following the rules set by this government. of most government. some of the most onerous we've ever had onerous rules we've ever had imposed on in peacetime. and imposed on us in peacetime. and there they were . yeah. now, there they were. yeah. now, look, i do not condone behaviour, particularly as i was lockdown sceptic. what i'm saying is i didn't condemn boris johnson for it because i didn't think boris johnson knew extent of what was going on. and i also think boris took the view as a lockdown sceptic having to impose these laws that toasting somebody with a glass of wine in room full of people had been spent all day working together, was not you know, i had a glass of wine with my family when. we were in lockdown. i didn't think i was having a party because i had a glass of wine in the evening because we were all in the so that the house together. so that was my and knowingly, i my problem. and knowingly, i think, is crucial here because i think, is crucial here because i think boris, you know, we were i going to say, as we all know, that politicians are economic with the truth. you know, that famous phrase you and we all know well you could be at the dispatch box and use words in a

way that you hope doesn't give a bald listen to what is being asked. but is still credible. and that may be what boris johnson did, but that is not knowingly the time of asking for you, were you knowingly economical with. they thought basically you were basically when you were a minister asked minister i never got asked difficult questions . it was difficult questions. it was fine. and also nobody fine. right. and also nobody ever told anything, so i ever told me anything, so i couldn't lie about you couldn't lie about it. you should talked me. i knew should have talked to me. i knew all . now, coming up after all sorts. now, coming up after the we'll be talking the headlines, we'll be talking about anniversary about the two year anniversary since abducted, since sarah was abducted, raped and murdered by a serving police officer, , i will officer, wayne cousins, i will have reaction. reaction to have more reaction. reaction to the developments . the latest police developments. good afternoon. it's 433. i'm rhiannon jones in the gb newsroom. borisjohnson rhiannon jones in the gb newsroom. boris johnson will give evidence to the privileges committee later this month following allegations he misled over partygate the former prime minister's set give evidence the week commencing march the 20th.

mr. johnson says it was his honest belief the rules and guidance have been followed and that there's no evidence he knowingly or recklessly misled the privileges committee says breaches of coronavirus rules would have been obvious to him at the time. meanwhile, mr. johnson spoken , out on the johnson spoken, out on the appointment of sue gray as sir keir starmer's new chief of staff , calling it particularly staff, calling it particularly concerning . it comes as jacob concerning. it comes as jacob rees—mogg the appointment invalidates her report into lockdown breaches at number 10. former mp accepted her two reports on the strict understand ending that she was impartial and not now looks wrong . no and not now looks wrong. no confidence can be placed in the evidence she secured or passed the police. so instead there should be an investigation into her and to her appointment. we should have an inquiry into what she has done in her contacts with while she's been a civil servant, particularly those with the of the leader of the the office of the leader of the opposition , a nobel peace prize opposition, a nobel peace prize winner and pro—democracy has been sentenced in a better court

to ten years in prison for funding protest rights. alice at news human rights group provided legal and financial aid to protesters during a 2020 wave of unrest in belarus. has also been convicted of tax evasion . he convicted of tax evasion. he claims he's being prosecuted for political reasons. russian agency tass that's reporting on the sentencing, says the verdict is likely to be strongly condemned by the west and it may well be march but a cold weather alerts being issued parts of the uk at the start next week. the uk at the start next week. the uk health security agency says freezing temperatures and showers are forecast across . showers are forecast across. england from monday bringing it a risk of ice. the met office , a risk of ice. the met office, meanwhile, has issued a snow warning for parts of scotland and the north east of england. cold snap is expected to last until midnight on wednesday . tv until midnight on wednesday. tv online on dab plus radio. this is gb news. now it's back to andrew .

well, today is the second anniversary since sarah everard was kidnapped, raped and brutally killed by police officer wayne cousins . he was officer wayne cousins. he was sentenced to a whole life term. london mayor sadiq khan says his thoughts are with the family and ones of sarah everard today. joining me on the show now is gemma the gemma aitchison, who's the founder matters, which is founder of matters, which is a charity which campaigns to women's rights . gemma, a very women's rights. gemma, a very sad for the family , sarah sad for the family, sarah everard. they'll never, ever get oven everard. they'll never, ever get over. of course. do you think have improved much for women to women feel safer now perhaps than they did two years ago on. the streets of towns and cities . it will be very difficult for her family for many years to come . but no, i don't things come. but no, i don't things have improved at all. i think

the police have doubled down and been defensive instead of acknowledging and actually addressing issues and just the police, the cps , the whole police, the cps, the whole justice system really have issues with dealing with against women and girls, including , as women and girls, including, as we know from the murder of sarah a few weeks . i don't we know from the murder of sarah a few weeks. i don't think women and girls do feel safer. and i think their trust , the justice think their trust, the justice system to deal with that is at an all time . and i don't think an all time. and i don't think it's improving. what they need to do to , improve things. gemma to do to, improve things. gemma . i think that they need to take on just like any professional does they need to take on the feedback instead of getting defensive about it and saying it's only a few bad apples. instead of having that defence and deflection reaction , they

and deflection reaction, they need to listen to that deal with day in and day out. on the and they really need to change how they really need to change how they try and their police officers . you know, most police officers. you know, most police officers. you know, most police officers don't have training in domestic even though that is a huge number of the comments they get. it's quite crazy ridiculous that it's always happened. any of the professional who wasn't trained in something that they was better. they were told they weren't to practise, they weren't to practise, they weren't qualified practise. it should be same with police officers. they need to be trained in what they're doing. and gemma, for you that you've got personal interest in this, got a personal interest in this, which explains a lot of your work with. yes. matters matters and you know my sister sasha my son was raped for murder ten years ago this year. and for me the work that i've been doing , the work that i've been doing, the work that i've been doing, the thing that doesn't seem change is that we don't take violence against, women and girls, seriously. when you think

about wayne cousins, our current target mental in my sister's case, they all have a history of offences that were dismissed and not taken seriously until that was unfortunately thought that body at the end and was still making that same mistake . do you making that same mistake. do you think the fact that officers now we saw it with cousins and you just referred to david carrick he got a life sentence with a minimum term of 30 years for a reign terror against women. do you think fact that police officers in uniform are involved will now perhaps finally get some serious action from police 7 some serious action from police ? i think it's not just the police officers themselves , the police officers themselves, the perpetrator , police officers. perpetrator, police officers. it's the ones that knew about them. many of them about current crime culture intact . you know, crime culture intact. you know, the horrible crime that had within the falls . you know, so within the falls. you know, so it isn't as if these who are perpetrators within the police aren't known about . so not only aren't known about. so not only do the officers themselves need

addressing, but want to know about what's being done, about all the people that condoned and enabled that person to continue. i want to know what's happening to those officers, too. all right, gemma. that's gemma atkinson, who's the founder of yes matters, whose own sister was only 16, was raped and murdered ten years ago at vaizey by the police. his reputation never been so low at the. it's amazing we seem to be hearing another police officer being charged and i think gemma. right. | charged and i think gemma. right. i mean, i think the police get very defensive over these things. look, you these things. now, look, you know, a police officer know, this was a police officer uniform who kidnapped, raped , uniform who kidnapped, raped, murdered a woman, picked up off the street, used his authority do so. somebody else, as you say , david, character again in 30 years. you can't be defensive about this. you've got to be open about it. there's still. to a certain extent, a canteen culture, police force. culture, the police force. there's defensive mentality, a of circle the wagons mentality . of circle the wagons mentality. and they have to understand why the public has lost confidence , the public has lost confidence, not least related to the fact

that very few crimes now appear to be kind of investigated and detected. so there has to be kind of root and reform. i feel very strongly or very sorry some ways for the police leadership because the turnaround. turning this ship around is going to be very, very difficult. i mean, it's cliche, but it's true. i think true people would would be more confident if they actually saw a bobby on the beach, if they saw. i agree with you. if they saw. i agree with you. if the police actually responded. when you report that your house has been burgled. yeah, i agree with i i think with you. i mean, i think there's a there's lots of things can change about the police, which are important but for example, crime. example, financial crime. i think beef up. you think we should beef up. you know, now suffer know, most people now suffer crime from some scam email . crime from some scam email. yeah. so could recruit yeah. so you could recruit people who see do that people who never see to do that kind of work. but then the reassuring presence of seeing a police person and man or woman, not a car walking down the street is a very good because people just feel reassured that there's help on the way. having

that look, you know, some these terror attacks, for example, where the police have with minutes within minutes. been unbelievably brave in taking on the attackers. you know the police still do a very good job by night are still by night and are still a relatively safe country. but there needs to be a kind of hearts and minds strategy now with the british public. absolutely vaizey. absolutely that's lord vaizey. he's me here until 1:00. he's with me here until 1:00. he's with me here until 1:00. he's a conservative peer, former government minister and earlier this week, of course, there . this week, of course, there. it's a story that won't go away. the royals king charles apparently asked harry and meghan or told them that they're going vacate frogmore cottage that's the five bedroom cottage on the windsor estate. harry and meghan spokesperson said requests have been made for them to give up frogmore cottage removed their last foothold in the uk their ties , the royal the uk their ties, the royal family being weakened. there is talk that it's been offered to prince andrew instead. he lives in a 30 room house called windsor royal lodge. it's very large i know it's up in there

and he's got in the grounds of that royal windsor royal lodge a heupad that royal windsor royal lodge a helipad because i was going to interview him for the day and. we went by helicopter to birmingham say to prince birmingham i did say to prince andrew you people andrew and you wonder people call andy , why call you airmiles andy, why aren't on a train . joining me aren't we on a train. joining me to talk about the twists and turn in the endlessly fascinating and harry saga is richard fitzwilliam , the royal richard fitzwilliam, the royal commentator. richard i can't really see the meghan and harry can have any cause for complaint. they've moved to the united states. their new life is in california with their millionaire chums . oh, i agree millionaire chums. oh, i agree with you. i think that. so you . with you. i think that. so you. know what has to bear in mind. the background to this. i mean, going back to the interview, which did the royal family so much harm? but if just go from last to december when they were trailers . for the 6 hours of the trailers. for the 6 hours of the netflix docu series, harry and meghan put out and the one

trailer it was appeared to be truly beautifully timed to cause problems for the prince and princess of wales when they were visiting boston . then you had visiting boston. then you had this a six rs, which for the couple who both they want privacy was simply bizarre with all the intimate texts and so on, but infinitely more serious . of course they were trashing the commonwealth with some of the commonwealth with some of the talking heads they were using . there was a brief for using. there was a brief for break and then we had break christmas and then we had spat memoir and those spat the memoir and those interviews including one that tomorrow with dr. campbell matos are very very controversial . are very very controversial. harry has a very very clearly put the boot in and there's no question that been embarrassing almost all the senior members of the royal family, the very state ones, have been under attack, including. so this is what king charles decided do. and it's interesting that no one, as far as i know, sort of this particular option , a talk about

particular option, a talk about taking the titles to children, wouldn't get titles or indeed of some form of reconciliation . some form of reconciliation. what the sussexes wanted apology they certainly won't get that i mean take to the cameron walker our royal reports because you've got some breaking news about the king the queen. i do. yes. this from buckingham palace. in the last few minutes, the king and queen state queen consort's, the first state visits of the new reign will be taking place later month to france and germany. this has been rumoured for some time, but now we have it. the king and queen consort first state visits france and germany . there is france and germany. there is going be many to do with going to be many to do with climate change and is perhaps what we expect is with with king charles. the response to the conflicts in ukraine, trade and investment opportunities and shared the best of our arts and culture collective arts and culture. it's understood this was at the request of the british government. clearly trying to increase relationships

with europe. but there were questions perhaps as to why the first state visits wouldn't to be a commonwealth nation rather europe. i think perhaps maybe so close to the coronation. clearly the commonwealth countries are very far away and they are both in their seventies. so perhaps that slightly played a chant , in their seventies. so perhaps that slightly played a chant, a played a part in it, but one of the questions for me, and i think this is going to become a bit of a sticking point of the next weeks. the buckingham palace, who is going act as palace, who is going to act as councillors state for the king on the i just on behalf of the king, i just admire accounts states admire what accounts states where council is. where the council of state is. that's deputised behalf of that's deputised on behalf of the official state the king signing official state papers undertaking everything the king does to do with the constitution or matters of the united kingdom . so the five united kingdom. so the five byelaw five councils of states, the queen consorts as the monarchs spouse, and then the four, and they senior in line to the throne over age of 21, which is at the moment, as it stands, the prince wales, the of sussex, harry, the duke of york, prince andrew and princess prince

andrew's youngest daughter. oh, what a collection. i exactly. now the king did express his his wish or he would be content in a message to the house of lords for other two siblings, prince edward and princess anne, to depufise edward and princess anne, to deputise on behalf of him. however that is not in legislation as it stands. so at the moment they are going to have to choose. but you have to have to choose. but you have to have two councils of state. it's going to be clearly the prince of is the throne and of wales is at the throne and then have to pick one of those and surely going to drop and then surely going to drop harry and andrew, because andrew no does any royal duties no longer does any royal duties and has walked away, and harry has walked away, packed gone off to packed his trunk and gone off to california circus. perhaps packed his trunk and gone off to cthink1ia circus. perhaps packed his trunk and gone off to cthink lti circus. perhaps packed his trunk and gone off to cthink it would. perhaps packed his trunk and gone off to cthink it would be perhaps packed his trunk and gone off to cthink it would be very erhaps i think it would be very difficult for them to pick the either one of two, which either one of those two, which leaves unless leaves princess beatrice unless legislation through, leaves princess beatrice unless legislatisure through, leaves princess beatrice unless legislatisure what through, leaves princess beatrice unless legislatisure what they'rergh, leaves princess beatrice unless legislatisure what they're going i'm not sure what they're going to buckingham that to buckingham palace on that particular are not particular point are not commenting think commenting what do you think they if you they should do? vaizey if you were you saw you as were advising, you saw you as a minister, you would see members of the royal family on a 1 to 1 basis. well, speaking, a player of obviously waiting of the realm, obviously waiting

this legislation, this important legislation, which about which i going to fight on about who cause to who should be the cause to i would for princess beatrice would go for princess beatrice met her a few times she seems a very nice person princess on a i like her too. i see also she's always battling to the experts in room actually who said is in the room actually who said is the we could make, the only game we could make, couldn't council couldn't they make her council of they got it. of state. well, they got it. they got to get it to the house of lords they got i'll tell you something i put in my application to to application to go to the coronation. know, you coronation. you know, you you can a ballot to take can enter a ballot to you take your you coronation. you think they you think a they fixed it? you think it's a genuine ballot or do you think it won't be they weirdly all the most will pay is will they most they will pay is will they won't pay there won't see an important pay there which so that's which rules you out. so that's lord doesn't me lord knows doesn't mind me teasing him a little bit. i don't mind if he does out now today, present with the largest listening today, present with the largest liste out. no the bbc they're bow out. no the bbc they're pretty well my listening because ken going to commercial radio ken is going to commercial radio after 45 years with the beeb. his mid—morning on radio his mid—morning show on radio two of more than two had a rate of more than 7 million. astonishing. he's going, course at age of going, of course at the age of 72 esteemed too old. he's being replaced by vernon kay . you know

replaced by vernon kay. you know him age 48. another sign to me that the publicly funded bbc is out of step and out of touch . out of step and out of touch. the mood of the country. it's an endless quest find a youth endless quest to find a youth audience. well, the chance to broadcaster alan joyce who now also tim luckhurst who is a professor tim not because he was principal of south college durham university and a former bbc journalist . afternoon chief, bbc journalist. afternoon chief, both kind of bloke to you first 40 do you think ken bruce been chucked on the scrapheap because he is old? well the chosen one is he was offered a new deal. he's on about 400 grand at the moment. and was offered a new deal moment. and was offered a new deal. but he saw the way the wind is blowing. and so he was offered a better by bow radio. and that's he's gone but you know have to wonder about know you have to wonder about the sanity and the sense of the bosses radio two who are used bosses of radio two who are used to they is listening. have to they think is listening. have this quest to get younger presenters younger people are presenters in younger people are not listening to radio to older people . i'm since they got rid people. i'm since they got rid of paul o'grady and since they

got rid of steve they have lost 600,000 easterners. they use policy is working. and let me tell you. so they've got rid of wright. they've got rid of they've come bruce has gone podesta's co guest has been replaced by i'm going to test your who is d.j. spoon they've never heard of him here is that no hiroshi that's a bloke that's right there's a big television shows never heard of them. no, no. and the replacing them with people that old people don't want to listen to a even on no shows they've got rid of the 6070s and eighties music. let it popular and now don't is doing so well on the commercial channels that are booming so it just seems like they've got a death wish i think . tim death wish i think. tim luckhurst your ex—bbc man, you've been critical of the bbc in the past and praised the bbc to carol malone's right. i mean, radio two is having some form of midlife because it's losing these seasoned, popular

broadcasters . i think there's a broadcasters. i think there's a great deal of truth in what carol says and. i think the bbc is making a very grave error by losing such popular broadcasters. but is pursuing not just a younger , but also not just a younger, but also a very deliberate cost cutting practise the bbc knows that it's got to reduce what it pays its presenters or one way that you reduce you pay your presenters is by rid of very expensive , is by rid of very expensive, very experienced people with enormous audience appeal and trying to grow new presenters of your own . now that might save your own. now that might save money but in the short term it's likely to listeners too. and i think that's big problem for the bbc and it is kind of a right as well. but when she talks about this, the craving of the youth, the youth listener and i think . the youth listener and i think. right, they're not going to tune to in this all these other channels they can go to. you're absolutely right. they're not going to tune in to bbc radio. but there's an even bigger problem youth audience problem the youth audience doesn't really listen to radio . doesn't really listen to radio. the bbc's great challenge is

that youth audience tends to consume its news. if it consumes news or music at all online or streaming services. the mainstay broadcasters are not appealing to the youth audience, whether it's on television or through radio . young people. my students radio. young people. my students are , different ways of getting are, different ways of getting the information in entertainment they want. that's a colossal challenge for the bbc , the challenge for the bbc, the licence fee funded broadcaster . licence fee funded broadcaster. and it's one of the reasons why i think as a fan of the bbc, in your rights, andrea, that i've been critic, but i'm also been a critic, but i'm also a big, passionate defender of the nofion big, passionate defender of the notion bbc , bbc, notion of the bbc, bbc, a cultural institution , is very cultural institution, is very valuable to britain, but it's going to have to get smaller, it's going to have to decide what it needs do and what it what it needs to do and what it does to do. bbc the does not need to do. bbc the scale currently got really scale we've currently got really isn't going to survive and i think music radio is a really big i mean, answer the question for can commercial radio not for me can commercial radio not do music radio as well as the bbc as far as i can say, commercial does music radio absolutely brilliantly. there is

simply no need for radio two in radio one, i think can has probably made a sensible decision going to a station where he's going to have a big audience come alone. you know, this is apart everything you just said. i agree with . but just said. i agree with. but this also a just you know, this is also a just you know, there is a law there's there is an equalities law in this country. is also rank country. and is also rank hypocrisy from a company that pndes hypocrisy from a company that prides itself on diversity and inclusion . now, the bbc has inclusion. now, the bbc has a rule that says 20% of its talent has to come from bombay background socio disadvantage, socio economic background and disability . there is no room disability. there is no room here for older people. i mean this is an age based policy and i get what you're about saving money, but it is an age it's policy that got rid of vanessa feltz. liz kershaw says that as soon as she turned 60, they kicked her out. and is kicked her out. and this is crazy. ken he beat all the laws of , you know, the bbc crazy. ken he beat all the laws of, you know, the bbc breakfast is usually the show that has the most listeners. can bruce beat

that trend? he was beating zoe ball by a million listeners a week and yet still they make it easy him to go and i to hope god ken bruce that can bruce takes the huge chunk of his listeners to boom radio because vernon kay is good and when he's good but he's not. ken bruce and i hope the bbc pay a very high price for this. hey, just policy, i hope.i for this. hey, just policy, i hope. i think . you're right. hope. i think. you're right. that's malone and tim luckhurst. professor tim luckhurst is principal of south college durham university. thanks for joining ed vaizey the last joining me. ed vaizey the last word the word culture. for six years the bbc was . a big part of your bbc was. a big part of your remit . it's bbc was. a big part of your remit. it's it. it's insanity what's happening at radio two when i'm ahead of the game because i was on the front page of the sunday times in 2009 saying that radio one should be abolished because do agree with tim's analysis we've got a really successful commercial radio stations in the uk a great kind of export you know stories and they can do you know radio one was set up because of pirate

radio in the 1960s. it was set up as a specific government policy to come back. pirate radio and the bbc has to make tough choices and you know that ecos system has evolved over the last 60 years is thriving . does last 60 years is thriving. does the bbc really need to be there ? the big problem is everyone pays licence they pays the licence so they think they to provide something they have to provide something for these are the for everyone. but these are the kind tough decisions we kind of tough decisions that we pay kind of tough decisions that we pay director general to make pay the director general to make . we're paying too . yeah. and we're paying too much well is much the licence fee. well is that point all. that's still face. he'll come back and. join me again. i hope i really did not do well enough. well, it's average . you're watching andrew average. you're watching andrew pierce and you're listening to andrew pierce here on gb news. plenty more still to come in the next of, the program. so next hour of, the program. so don't go anywhere. but before that to take very quick that we're to take a very quick break. news , its own break. bbc news, its own late night preview show where night paper preview show where comedians you through next comedians take you through next day's top news stories. you don't have to bother reading the newspaper. we've got it covered for every at 11 for you headliners every at 11 pm. and repeated every morning at it won't send you to at 5 am. it won't send you to sleep. of the other paper

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channel hello, this is andrew pierce . hello, this is andrew pierce. back to the show coming up in this hour. it's been revealed in the last few minutes that the former prime minister, boris is to evidence to the to give evidence to the privileges committee in the beginning, march the 20th, and whether he missed like led parliament knowingly about breaking coronavirus lockdown rules will also be looking to make a speech made by the former prime minister in which he says he'll find it very difficult to vote for rishi sunak's. new brexit northern ireland brexit deal for northern ireland that vaunted windsor that is the much vaunted windsor framework and will also be taken up with latest news. people's

poll which found only 8% of you thought king charles meeting with the eu boss ursula von der leyen was a good idea. but before that we're going to get the latest headlines . thank you the latest headlines. thank you and good afternoon it's woman a past one. your top stories , the past one. your top stories, the gb newsroom, the privileges committee has said breaches of coronavirus rules and street would have been obvious to boris johnson at the time . the former johnson at the time. the former prime minister's to give evidence person about partygate out the committee inquiry on march the 20th. he says it was his honest belief the rules and guidance had been followed and that there's no evidence he knowingly or recklessly misled . knowingly or recklessly misled. parliament meanwhile, mr. johnson's the appointment of sue gray as keir starmer's new chief of staff was particularly concerning . the senior civil concerning. the senior civil servant led an independent investigation into partygate ,

investigation into partygate, but it was announced yesterday she was the civil service to join the labour party. conservative mp rees—mogg calling for a proper inquiry into the employment , saying it into the employment, saying it invalidates her report into lockdown breaches at number 10. former mp accepted her to reports on the strict understanding that she was impartial and. not now looks wrong. no confidence can be placed in evidence she secured or passed the police . so instead or passed the police. so instead there should be an investigation into her and to her appointment that we should have an inquiry into . what she has done and her into. what she has done and her contacts with labour while she's been a civil servant, particularly those with the office leader of the office of the leader of the opposition . further leaked opposition. further leaked whatsapp messages by matt hancock . his team asked if could hancock. his team asked if could lock up nigel farage for being a pub hooligan and. breaking lockdown rules. the messages by the telegraph are allegedly sent in 2020 after mr. farage shared a video of himself drinking at a

pub a fortnight earlier, he was at a trump rally . the us under at a trump rally. the us under covid lockdown rules. anyone coming to england from abroad required to quarantine for days or face a £1,000 fine at the time, mr. said he wasn't quarantine rules. however he has since said he was. what i was photographed that day the pubs open had i reached the full 14 days. well it was a bit nip and tucki days. well it was a bit nip and tuck i think probably. i hadn't quite reached the time . i always quite reached the time. i always made sure i used hand sanitiser. i kept my distance from . i have i kept my distance from. i have to say, you know, bad laws . bad to say, you know, bad laws. bad laws make people lawbreakers . laws make people lawbreakers. the king and queen consort will make their state visits to france and germany at the end of the month . buckingham palace the month. buckingham palace says the six day trip beginning the 26th of march, will celebrate relationship with both countries marking shared

histories, culture and values. the royal couple will travel to paris and then onwards to berlin. the trip will include a number of firsts, including the king being the first british monarch to give a speech from. france's senate chamber. constance marten and mark shorten are appearing in court after the remains of a baby were in brighton. the pair have been charged with gross negligence manslaughter, concealing the birth of a child and perverting the course of justice. the body of a newborn was found in an area of woodland in holland bray on wednesday after a two day search. the couple were arrested on monday. will are appearing at crawley magistrates courts . the crawley magistrates courts. the hs2 project be delayed in an attempt to kerb rising costs that's to the project's chief executive the line supposed to provide a faster rail service between london and manchester but there are reports that may no longer run to its planned terminal euston as a cost saving measure. the project's chief now

says the impact of means they're having to at ways of reducing costs , including the timing costs, including the timing phasing of the project . mourners phasing of the project. mourners have lined the streets to pay their respects to a whose body was found in a house in milton keynes four years after she disappeared a cortege for the 19 year old has passed through first and in a public funeral procession. thames valley police human remains at a property last october following a tip off from the public. ms. was last seen walking to in february 2019. neil maxwell was found dead two months after ms. crouch's disappearance . he remains the disappearance. he remains the only suspect in the . case neil only suspect in the. case neil coyle has apologised . in the coyle has apologised. in the house of commons and said he's ashamed of his behaviour now after was found to have breached parliament's and harassment policy . the independent expert policy. the independent expert panel has recommended a five day

suspension for the former politician. it follows reports of foul mouthed and drunken abuse of another mp as assistant. he is also accused bullying and harassing a parliament tree journalist. both instances took place in a commons bar , a nobel peace prize commons bar, a nobel peace prize winner and pro—democracy activist has been sentenced in a belarus court to ten years in prison for. funding protests. alice alioski, whose human group provided legal and financial aid to protesters during a 2020 wave of unrest in belarus has also been convicted tax evasion. he claims he's being persecuted for political reasons. russian news agency tass reporting on the sentencing . the verdict is sentencing. the verdict is likely to be strongly condemned by the west . and may well be by the west. and may well be march. but a cold weather alerts being issued for parts of the uk at the start of next week. the uk health security agency says freezing temperatures and wintry

are forecast across england from monday, bringing with it a risk ice.the monday, bringing with it a risk ice. the met office, meanwhile has issued a snow warning for parts scotland and the north—east of england . the cold north—east of england. the cold snapis north—east of england. the cold snap is expected to last until midnight on wednesday . this is midnight on wednesday. this is gb news are bringing more as it happens though, it's back to andrew . andrew. thanks to thanks to rihanna for that. now the former prime minister boris johnson, it's going to happen finally. he's going to happen finally. he's going to happen finally. he's going to called before that privileges committee march, late march , the inquiry into whether march, the inquiry into whether he lied knowingly to parliament over partygate. members of the committee say evidence strongly suggests that breaches of coronavirus rules will have been obvious to boris johnson at the time he was at the gatherings . time he was at the gatherings. joining me now is gb news political reporter catherine forster catherine. this could

potentially exaggerate the importance of it make or break his career because if the committee says he willingly and knowingly misled parliament, potentially the fine , he could potentially the fine, he could be suspended from parliament. yes, he could be. this is very serious for boris johnson indeed. and it could be the end . his career as a conservative mp in parliament. less than a year after he was prime minister . so this privileges has been working for many, many months and we have been waiting . and we have been waiting. finally, it seems there is movement. boris johnson will appear before them. we understand the week beginning the 20th of march and they have in the last hour published a 24 page document in which they've said that it breaches of guidance would have been obvious to boris johnson at several

events that he attended. they've published four new photographs that we haven't seen before and they that they say that parliament have been misled . parliament have been misled. bofis parliament have been misled. boris johnson's handed over 46 what's up conversely and witnesses i've spoken to the privileges committee boris johnson have been told the identity of those people . now identity of those people. now the privileges committee is made up of people. it's chaired by labour mp harriet harman, although it actually does have a majority of conservative mps on it. four conservative mps . now it. four conservative mps. now bofis it. four conservative mps. now boris johnson has been quick to rush out statement in which he has said he has been vindicated . he said it is clear from this that i have not committed any contempt of parliament and have been vindicated. there was no evidence that i knowingly or recklessly miss led parliament. he goes on to say that he was

aware of any breaches taking place, that he relied on advice from his officials and that nobody had warned him that any of these gatherings might have been. of these gatherings might have been . it said that it seems he been. it said that it seems he may have the rules of boris saying absolutely that he been. and also he's a dig at sue gray and the sue gray report , which and the sue gray report, which is proving so controversial that she's going to work for starmer and the labour party . he's and the labour party. he's commented on the fact that the privileges committee a lot of the material from the sue gray report and in fact referenced her to six occasions in this 24 report page report that's just been published . all right. been published. all right. that's catherine forster gb news political reporter in downing street, scarlett mccgwire i'm delighted to say with me in the studio for next hour. former studio for the next hour. former labour party adviser and of course, you used to advise harriet think i said i

harriet harman. i think i said i certainly did. i wouldn't certainly did. i said, wouldn't you advising then not chair you be advising then not chair this she's this committee when she's already she thinks already told us what she thinks about johnson? she in the about boris johnson? she in the commons, he broke the rules knowingly. so can she be an knowingly. so how can she be an impartial absolutely. impartial child? absolutely. absolutely not. harriet is a trained and she's going into this as lawyer. she's not telling anybody any of her friends, anybody what what she's finding out. she's looking . she finding out. she's looking. she said she's just looking at the evidence. i mean, the fact the fact is it doesn't matter what you believe or what you don't believe. what's is the evidence and we talk about sue gray and her her investigation . right. her her investigation. right. what nobody's saying is that she was wrong . what nobody's saying was wrong. what nobody's saying is the things that she said happened didn't she said there was a failure of leadership at number 10, which boris was prime. so failure by him, it wrecked his premiership. he was he had announced his resignation within two months. what wrecked his premiership? right was was a that we all know he had parties

right. and b that rishi sunak frankly completely disagreed with him on economic policy. and then 50 ministers resigned within 24 hours. that was the end of the i mean actually as far as the labour party was i mean sue gray investigation was pretty shallow . the so—called pretty shallow. the so—called alba party, that they had to celebrate the end of dominic cummings wasn't even investigated. so i mean actually think that if you talk to any labour and ps they'll say there was a lot more to look at that she decided not to. what of british investigation seven mps the tories on there some of them are no fans of boris johnson if they find he has knowingly misled parliament. does he have to be suspended from parliament? well, that's up to, mustn't it? i mean, they have to decide. i mean, i think they they have to decide it. how egregious the was. right whether it was accidental . whether it was over

accidental. whether it was over and over again. now, the guardian online is published some of the whatsapp messages is that boris has made to back bofis that boris has made to back boris has made available at they are quite. i they are they are people his in his the pr people going. i don't see how we can how can spin this away. i don't see how this is within the rules . i mean they are. it is quite difficult to say how he thinks he's been vindicated . just don't he's been vindicated. just don't sue gray. and you don't think there's any problem whatsoever with sue gray going from her incredibly senior in the cabinet office to work for keir starmer , she could she'd start next week yet was charge of week yet she was in charge of ethics in the cabinet office . ethics in the cabinet office. she blocked somebody from the downing street honours unit going to the house of lords for 12 because of the 12 months because of the political sensitivity. more political sensitivity. far more political sensitivity. far more political political sensitivity. voltaire that she's going to work for the leader of the opposition access to opposition with the access to confidential information she's had in the last few years in the cabinet office. so i think that

what will happen is there will be a decision will have be a decision that will have nothing do with sue gray or nothing to do with sue gray or keir when she can keir starmer about when she can join . it think join right. and it you think there should a delay. i think there should be a delay. i think will a delay. but she clearly doesn't think so. she wants to join. she's breaking ranks. she's and she's put it in other people i mean she all she's done is she's given it to the people who make the decision and they will a decision she's not saying i think i should join that. how long do think the delay should be? should it be like the woman from that to the house of lords? i don't think i mean, i, i that would take us almost the next would take us to almost the next election . i know. i mean, election. i know. i mean, i don't know because i don't know . these things are like and i certainly know that, that , that certainly know that, that, that some of i mean there's somebody in who's in the house of lords working for number 10 at the moment. i mean that that happens all mean, look, when all the time. i mean, look, when bofis all the time. i mean, look, when boris hired the guy who helped labour through , when they labour through, when they boosted government through the

financial crisis right from the treasury , nobody made a peep treasury, nobody made a peep i mean, he knew, he knew all the secrets. i just think it happens a lot. you go for a good civil servant. all right. i'm going to talk now to. the former conservative mp and minister currie. edwina, hello to you. yeah edwina , what just was your yeah edwina, what just was your reaction to sue gray getting this job. and do you think if it is allowed to go ahead because there will be an investigation, first of all, should there be a delay . i was quite shocked delay. i was quite shocked because . ministers need to be because. ministers need to be able to their senior civil servants that all the civil service to . absolutely you need service to. absolutely you need to be able to sit down with your civil servants and talk through a policy talk to its implications and know that the advice that you're getting is really unbiased indeed when they say to you , minister, you can't say to you, minister, you can't do this or you shouldn't be able to do this, you need to know that that is proper sound in advice and it is not coming from who is actually quite hostile to

you and most sympathetic to the other side . this will have to go other side. this will have to go to a cobr that to advise committee on business appointments. but it's been widened been in existence nearly half a century and it started off to civil servants into business jobs. off to civil servants into business jobs . they were then business jobs. they were then going to exploit the information , their knowledge. they had been much than that in more recent years. i think they should stop from doing this job for two years. they can't be. they have to make a recommendation. but if she really wants to go and work for keir starmer , then she'll for keir starmer, then she'll still want to do it in two years time . by then she won't be time. by then she won't be taking the secrets of the prime minister's office with her. that would be my feeling about an honourable to do that . and on honourable to do that. and on that lord vaizey at vaizey was on with me earlier and he said, oh, i don't. she's the sort who would utilise of the intelligence and confidential information she'd got when she

got to the labour party. i thought he was being staff staggeringly naive in saying so. well, tech must not only well, i think tech must not only be, but it must be seen to be done justice. it can't in any way watered down. she's a very remarkable woman . anybody who's remarkable woman. anybody who's run a pub as well as being a top civil comes into a category of people i would admire . but that people i would admire. but that said, she knows all about ethics, and i there should be a big gap between leaving the seniorjob she has at the moment, where she knows an awful and going straight into the leader of the opposition's job where she could take those secrets with her whether she intends to or not. that's going to that would be my to be the that would be my recommendation and edwina on party gate we now know that the week beginning the 20th of march bofis week beginning the 20th of march boris will go before boris johnson will go before that privileges chaired by harriet harman. now scarlet maguire in the studio here with me doesn't it's an issue me doesn't think it's an issue that harman has said on that harriet harman has said on the in commons more the record in the commons more than boris johnson

than once boris johnson knowingly misled parliament, knowingly misled parliament, knowingly broke the rules . does knowingly broke the rules. does that, in your sense, discolour her in any way from chairing this investigation ? well, if this investigation? well, if i remember right me actually , it's remember right me actually, it's mainly chaired by somebody else, but i think chris brown, somebody who's already recused themselves. so harriet sort of has taken over as a deputy. now, i think the thing that surprised me about all this, andrew, is bofis me about all this, andrew, is boris knows , as everybody does, boris knows, as everybody does, that these events appearing before a committee a select committee or whatever is pure theatre . and if , if i were committee or whatever is pure theatre . and if, if i were boris theatre. and if, if i were boris issues, i would have gone into a terribly terribly sorry i made a mistake. i was badly advised or itook mistake. i was badly advised or i took the advice that i was given a terribly sorry, terribly sorry, terribly sorry . and that sorry, terribly sorry. and that would have been an end of it because you're sitting in front of a load of very pompous , of a load of very pompous, self—righteous people. and if you're highly apologetic , you're highly apologetic, there's nothing they can do to you . it as if he's chosen

you. it looks as if he's chosen to do something and chosen to fight . now, if you're kind of fight. now, if you're kind of fighting against the fact and scarlett would probably agree with me here, that's a lot harder to do. it's a it's much better to just say terribly sorry and shut the thing down. and especially if there's no more facts to be delivered on this, when i appeared talking about eggs, there was a lot information to come up and i knew that i would be vindicated. eventually but that's not going to happen the person to happen with boris the person is suffer from this is is going to suffer from this is the current prime minister who really everything shut really wants everything shut down so we can get on with running the country properly, getting everything gone to an even keel and not harking back to difficult things over the last three years. all right . last three years. all right. that's edwina currie, the former minister . that's edwina currie, the former minister. going to get the view now, of course, that the political commentator , sir peter political commentator, sir peter spencen political commentator, sir peter spencer. curry's right. spencer. peter curry's right. isn't she the prime minister will relish like a hole in will relish this like a hole in the not least will the head. not least it will remind people he also got remind people that he also got a £50 fine for turning up at one

of the parties. i think he was there for 2 minutes, then he even had a cup of tea . i don't even had a cup of tea. i don't think it'll be quite so bad for him because you've got to remember that boris johnson has been and scheming to been plotting and scheming to get to the top job in get back to the top job in downing . they've been doing this downing. they've been doing this for and indeed there's a solid grassroots tory grouping which is aligned with the with the tory membership, which says, you know, it was it was the tory members chose him they didn't choose either which tea or or liz truss and therefore we want the man back. well it seems to me very that this taking timebomb is going to finally finish his career off in which case sunak can at least a bit of a sigh of relief. but that's one enemy within out of the picture . do you really think the committee will, if because it's got a tory majority are tory meps really going to vote to

bnng meps really going to vote to bring down the prime minister ? bring down the prime minister? well, you've got to remember that some 50 ministers voted to that, voted with their feet and got dartington out in the first place and therefore , i mean place and therefore, i mean there's quite a lot who regard there's quite a lot who regard the brand a great deal more important than individual standard bearers . and if boris standard bearers. and if boris brought the party into , then the brought the party into, then the sooner he's out of the picture, the better i mean, when it comes to what boris johnson is now said, there was nothing to see here. i mean, it calls to mind the archetypal definition of hotspur, which the kid right murders his parents and then in pleads clemency because an orphan . so if you were a betting orphan. so if you were a betting man peter i'm not sure if you are or you're not. is the any for boris johnson? yeah yeah. well, i mean would think it probably will be. yep because i suspect that the committee will

come down very against him . and come down very against him. and i suspect the upshot of that is his suspension from parliament, therefore he lose ultimately he loses seat in uxbridge and as a consequence , that is out of the consequence, that is out of the picture. that said , he's been picture. that said, he's been making absolute shed loads of money since he left parliament and he probably would part of him would be thinking, well, i think i can afford to go back to being boring. old prime minister tony abbott get peanuts tony abbott doesn't get peanuts all right. that's peter spencer all right. that's peter spencer a bit of commentator scholar. i talked to labour mp and say they fear johnson at a general fear boris johnson at a general election far more than rishi sunak because some people can't stand him of course. but other people, it's like being out with a star. he's a great campaigner undeniably. keir starmer i know you like him, but he is so painfully dull. he's not painfully dull. he's not painfully dull. he's not painfully dull. let's talk about bofis painfully dull. let's talk about boris johnson. i mean, i think borisjohnson. i mean, i think what we don't know is how tired the country is of boris johnson. i mean, remember, he promised

levelling up. we haven't seen anything. he promised 40 new hospitals. the about boris johnson he's a great campaigner can't do what what he wins right . i mean that has been his problem . and . i mean that has been his problem .and i mean, you know, problem. and i mean, you know, he was a terrible prime minister, only beaten by woman who came after him. so i actually but i do understand that what they want what labour are worried about is that that that that up against him campaigning . i mean boris is not campaigning. i mean boris is not entirely truthful as we know and he's certainly not truthful on the road and you just think if he's going to start getting people worked up, that he makes all these promises, both in the brexit, in the and the general election. he did it so , you election. he did it so, you know, i mean, we were told the northern ireland protocol was brilliant . we were told about by brilliant. we were told about by your side that we were going to go into the worst recession if we dared to vote for brexit. we did for and we did not go did for brexit and we did not go into worst recession. now into the worst recession. now that she's that scarlet maguire, she's staying me. coming up staying with me. coming up after the get out of

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so the gb news people's poll has just been published and i think it's fascinating . 60% of those it's fascinating. 60% of those polled think lockdown during the pandemic was the right decision . scarlett mccgwire that we have lockdown sceptics ed vaizey, lord vaizey in that chair before he was a lockdown sceptic. i was a sceptic over the second lockdown, but actually went

along with the first one. i i went along with the first one because the seem to be any option. i mean, it we didn't have a vaccination rate. it was it was definitely killing people and it was definitely i mean, there were going to be awful lot i mean, people who i knew i would elderly people who who were sort of stuck in their homes and actually so the good thing to was i mean , i did go thing to was i mean, i did go for walks every day. i mean, i did not lock myself down. but i think , i mean, i think that i think, i mean, i think that i think, i mean, i think that i think the people sort of looked and thought , what's what's the and thought, what's what's the other option? i mean? i think a lot of people actually lockdown before. the government said we had to. yeah. and the prime minister the country him. minister took the country him. he was very impressive in those days. when he days. you remember when he talked boris talked to the nation boris johnson? yeah, yeah. i mean, before he got covid. yeah, i remember. i mean , he got it and remember. i mean, he got it and nearly died . yeah. and so in nearly died. yeah. and so in a way he was the proof that that's what happens because obviously it completely in number it was completely rife in number where they were all madly mixing

with i rememberjust with each. i rememberjust before the lockdown being in reception the of reception in the house of commons they coming commons and they were coming round with bowls of peanuts and, people putting their hands. and i people putting their hands. and | , people putting their hands. and i , are you marching? people putting their hands. and i , are you marching ? if i thought, are you marching? if there a hand sanitiser there wasn't a hand sanitiser anywhere in, then i called the speaker's office. lindsay said, you've sort it , speaker's office. lindsay said, you've sort it, man. they you've got to sort it, man. they did about two days, but did within about two days, but the mp and the thousands of people who work there were carrying on as if nothing was . i carrying on as if nothing was. i mean, i'm amazed that no mp died because because because because it was absolutely rife not just in number 10 but throughout all houses parliament people to get 10,000 people to pass holders there they're coming from all over the country and peace. yeah, it was a petri dish. it was that was the last time i went there until. well lockdown. i ain't going back there because it was just it was so scary when they hugging each other. they all hugging each other. yeah, thought yeah, they were. they thought they there was they were buffing. there was this slight thing that actually bofis this slight thing that actually boris did have at beginning boris did have at the beginning is i remember when king is that i remember when king charles he was prince at the time well, you know,

time and was oh, well, you know, he's a perfectly healthy he'll be okay was the was the thing that actually people like us don't catch it only the italians . that's why we've got some news coming up . i just want to say coming up. i just want to say that i'm happy and relieved that this matter is finally over today. today's sentence is a vindication . what i've been put vindication. what i've been put through and sends a clear message that the police and the courts take this matter very seriously . i want to let all of seriously. i want to let all of victims of this crime know that i stand in solidarity them and i have absolute no regrets on why they anonymity. i hope that this puts anyone off committing this sort of crime . and i hope for sort of crime. and i hope for anyone else who's been of that, it gives them some sort of justice. thank you so much for your support . and yeah , that's your support. and yeah, that's it . thank . you. so that was it. thank. you. so that was george harrison talking after

the conviction of her ex—boyfriend, stephen bear, who's been sentenced to 21 months in prison for sharing revenge. she gave her anonymity and that was her speaking scarlett mccgwire always brave when a woman does that incredibly brave because there are masses of masses of women out there who've had that happen to them and have not been able to them and have not been able to do anything because they feel ashamed . well done, georgia. ashamed. well done, georgia. well done for saying this isn't this isn't i mean, you know, sex is a wonderful, fantastic but incredibly private . oh, he won't incredibly private. oh, he won't be able to do whatever we want without finding she was huffing she was having messages from america about it i mean just awful for a well well done and is absolutely right he goes to jail this go on yeah and he's got 24 months so of course he'll be out within barely a year. yeah but still jail is not pleasant. i mean it is pretty , pleasant. i mean it is pretty, it's pretty scary . he will learn

it's pretty scary. he will learn a lot lessons and i hope that he will actually behave. but. but i mean, he put out a video of him and his current girlfriend of this morning. i mean, he obviously has no shame. no what is it about men's psyche that they do? do they do this? i think i don't know. was he trying to show off or just because he to humiliate her show off the show, his prowess or whatever? i it is. but it's like men's ending pictures of their beds. yeah god, no, this isn't why . want to go with him? why. want to go with him? i think they're very odd men . and think they're very odd men. and she. she she looked very happy, didn't she , outside chelsea's didn't she, outside chelsea's date. she date. and this would have been an ordeal she'd have taken advice with her lawyers, her family, friends to give up her family, friends to give up her i suspect that her anonymity. i suspect that we'll a big interview with we'll see a big interview with a in one of the sunday newspapers. yeah and i would that tends to be happens and good be what happens and that's good to think that's good to know i think that's good because what says is

because i think what it says is it says everybody not it says everybody i'm not ashamed i did it and this is this is what i do and actually more women should come forward and, say this is because it's being used as blackmail. i mean, we know we the police know it goes on far more than the than we realise because . nobody we realise because. nobody people the women of frightened to come forward. yeah and i mean we were took we had only this week didn't we. boris johnson's wife talking out about the campaign to stop the release of the guy who battered his wife to death with a hammer in front of his children. she of course gave her anonymity over the taxi car rapist to see rapists . small rapist to see rapists. small boys. yeah. i mean i mean and carrie johnson was really good to that. she was one of the people that this dreadful taxi driver who'd say, oh, i've just won the lottery. why don't you have a glass of champagne with me? it was drugged then me? and it was drugged and then he'd them and was of he'd rape them and was one of the women said , you know, the women who said, you know, this happened to me, he's got to

stay in. she kept him in jail. yeah and because if you if you remember the parole board had recommended he be released . yeah recommended he be released. yeah absolutely dozens more cases came to light. he is the most prolific serial rapist in the country . you should never, ever country. you should never, ever be allowed out of prison. ever. in my, ever, ever . be allowed out of prison. ever. in my, ever, ever. i think you can go. oh, you're going to be a bleeding liberal maybe when he's 80. n0. bleeding liberal maybe when he's 80. no. why i do. i think i do that he is really, really dangerous. and again, i mean, you know he's never he's never said how terrible what he did was . i said how terrible what he did was. i mean, even if he was lying, you would think that he would be sensible enough to say yes, what i did. and instead mean he's just i yes, what i did. and instead mean he'sjust i mean, he'sjust mean he's just i mean, he's just terrible . he's one of these terrible. he's one of these ghastly men , still very ghastly men, still very important for women , both in important for women, both in these cases and intimately. is there right? no, no. it is because otherwise they won't go forwards. i mean i mean, still, rape is a shaming thing. forwards. i mean i mean, still, rape is a shaming thing . right. rape is a shaming thing. right. and you don't want you know, i

mean, in prison sometimes rape trial transcripts of rape trials pass around because it titillate is because it's about sex. so actually you do what you do want to protect most. what you want to protect most. what you want to protect most. what you want to protect all women. but then you want people like carrie johnson and georgia to come out and say , this is what happened and say, this is what happened to me. all right. that's scarlett mugabe about that verdict terms of crown court verdict in terms of crown court where stephen been sentenced to 21, in prison for 21, 21 months in prison for sharing revenge on his ex—girlfriend, harrison. ex—girlfriend, georgia harrison. what, ling he is. what, nepal ling man he is. we're going to now to we're going to now go to rhiannon because we're going to we're going to now go to rhithe on because we're going to we're going to now go to rhithe headlinesa we're going to we're going to now go to rhithe headlines ane're going to we're going to now go to rhithe headlines a little going to we're going to now go to rhithe headlines a little after to go the headlines a little after 130 . thank you, andrea. it's 130. thank you, andrea. it's 134. your top from the gb newsroom. the commons privileges says breaches of coronavirus rules in downing street would have been obvious to boris johnson at the time. the former prime set to give evidence about

gates and whether he lied parliament at the committee inquiry on march the 20th. mr. says it was his belief the rules and guidance had been followed and guidance had been followed and that there's no evidence he misled parliament, that mr. johnson's also spoken out about the appointment of sue gray as sir keir new chief of staff . it sir keir new chief of staff. it particularly concerning the senior civil servant led an independent investigation into it was announced yesterday was leaving the civil service to join the labour party can mp jacob rees—mogg calling for a proper inquiry the appointment saying it invalidates her report into breaches at number the king and queen consort will make their first state visits to france and germany at the end of the month buckingham palace says the month buckingham palace says the six day trip beginning on the six day trip beginning on the 26th of march, will celebrate britain's with both countries marking shared histories culture and values. the royal couple will travel to

paris and then onwards to berlin. the trip will include a number of firsts , including a number of firsts, including a king being the first british monarch to give a speech from france's senate chamber. and as we've hearing, a reality tv star has been sentenced to 21 months in prison for sharing a private video of him having sex with his ex girlfriend. stephen bear was accused of circulating footage . accused of circulating footage. him and georgia harrison, having sex in his garden in august 20, 20. 28 year old miss harrison, who's waived right to anonymity, says she , demanded the clip says she, demanded the clip never be shared . bear, who never be shared. bear, who denies all charges , was found denies all charges, was found guilty of voyeurism well as disclosing private with intent to cause distress tv online on dab+ radio. this is gb news. don't go anywhere. andrew back in just moment.

angie pierce back with us. we've just been discussing the reality tv star bear. apparently he was in big brother , has been in big brother, has been sentenced to 21 months in prison for sharing revenge with his ex—girlfriend, georgia harrison , on his only fans website. let's speak now to gb news southeast england reporter ray addison , whose life was outside addison, whose life was outside chelmsford crown court right . chelmsford crown court right. yes. good afternoon, andrew. yes, stephen bear been told he must serve 21 months in prison for voyeurism and to counts of disclosing private films of intent to cause distress . been intent to cause distress. been told as well that he'll be subject a restraining order for five years in which he could never go and speak to or see his former girlfriend , harrison, or former girlfriend, harrison, or even tweet about her insight . even tweet about her insight. others to do the now as he

arrived here earlier at chelmsford crown court waved a peace sign actually stopped to film a video with his girlfriend. his fiancee jessica smith . he was given repeated smith. he was given repeated opportunity to comment on an apologised to his victim but he denied that chance and said that he hopes that one day his side, the story gets out and he gets some justice. now in appearing in court behind a screen, miss harrison , who waived her right harrison, who waived her right to anonymity during this trial , to anonymity during this trial, described it as a wicked crime, said it had always been her worst nightmare that a photo or video would surface of and talked about how she suffered extreme anxiety since . this extreme anxiety since. this offence was committed back in 2020 by stephen bear. in fact, she revealed that she'd actually been hospitalised over because of the severe a—t of this six duration, she said everybody

knew about this video she couldn't go the gym to restaurants that people in the street would come up to her as she said stephen bear had showed empathy or sympathy mocking her onune empathy or sympathy mocking her online during the trial itself, and it showed no regret for his actions at the height of the video's fame. she instagram page received 63 million page views as well, and as a result of situation, she lost reality television work. her earnings dropped significantly and her pubuc dropped significantly and her public image was irreparably damaged. now the judge in summing up said that he was satisfied that stephen bear had indeed lied to ms. harrison, but he said that he deleted the video and had exploited the video and had exploited the video due to its economic value and ms. harrison's fame as a reality television . star reality television. star mitigation from the defence lawyer for mr. bear was that his

psychiatric conditions he's been diagnosed with adhd . the judge diagnosed with adhd. the judge said that that was no excuse for his actions and only a sentence was . a all right, thanks for was. a all right, thanks for that. that's right. that's an outside chance. a crown court . outside chance. a crown court. scarlett did good attempt by the lawyers to do some mitigation for him , but he's just he's just for him, but he's just he's just a piece of work is a vile, horrible man . a piece of work is a vile, horrible man. is a piece of work is a vile, horrible man . is attention horrible man. is attention deficit disorder . it doesn't deficit disorder. it doesn't actually mean that you have an excuse for being a complete and utter prat. i mean, he is just a terrible man and it's also for her she was very positive on the steps the court georgia but this must have been a pretty horrific for the last 201 when she says i mean she had a breakdown around christmas i mean it just must have been awful. and you think wherever go people are going ,

wherever go people are going, i've seen you. but i mean , she i've seen you. but i mean, she was wonderful . and the fact that was wonderful. and the fact that he was tweeting throughout the trial, mocking her, i mean, you just think is this man. i mean , just think is this man. i mean, yeah, thank goodness he's to jail. yeah we've been talking today. of course, it's a second anniversary of the death, murder and rape of everard . and two and rape of everard. and two years already time for the family. but again, it puts again women. how do women feel ? women. how do women feel? because it's not just got to contend with the fact you can come across a monster in a police uniform. but the internet now has become a very potent weapon against lot of women. oh, yeah. i mean there's no yeah. no, i mean there's no question mean, what question that i mean, what happened to everard is sort of everybody's nightmare and you always never happen . always say it'll never happen. this happened. you this isn't what happened. you don't up the street. don't get picked up the street. i mean, i have said it to enough people and then then that people and then and then that happened. but i actually what's happening on the internet, i mean, you're mean, where just because you're on twitter you, you can be

abused you can i mean i mean people , say just the most people, say just the most ghastly things and they they anonymously, of course and they feel they feel they have a right to be. absolutely disgraceful. and it's i mean the reason i do not look at my twitter account is because you know even though i appear to be perfectly self—confident, i don't want to be attacked i get attacked all the time. i'm often told i've been attacked, but i couldn't give hoot what they say about give a hoot what they say about me and it doesn't bother me in the slightest so and i don't bother to read it either right sees you and that's my advice to lots of people you're on twitter if you don't like don't be on twitter. it's the first thing to say. if you are on twitter, say. but if you are on twitter, just don't read all the reviews. yeah told some of yeah because i have told some of the i've said me. the things i've said about me. hilarious people obsessed hilarious people are obsessed apparently taste. they apparently about my taste. they almost face. i know they almost they my face. i know they are those. yeah. and i don't a dead black cat on my head either which partly what people have been well, me been writing. well, joining me now to be voices and they're very welcome that miranda and

john . hello you both. hi john reid. hello you both. hi andrew, good to talk to you. john, over to you. what do you want to talk, john? what's getting your goat? i'll tell you what. the subject you've just had is something that's very important . had is something that's very important. me. and if i could have 2 minutes of your time on that, i'll be grateful. you have to. far away . i don't know. to. far away. i don't know. stephen bear , the man in the stephen bear, the man in the moon. i have no idea nor the girl that he was seen with, nor anything else. however i would. i would raise the. yeah, let's lock him because he's been naughty . and if you lock him up naughty. and if you lock him up for 21 months or 21 years, it will make no difference unless you the man in some way so that when he comes out he's not the man he was when he went. however, in system we've got in the kidney criminal justice system, we've got to die unless there's some authority and knowledge on this rehabilitation

is taking a backseat and i've got no how to rehabilitate something like him. but if we do nothing, he's going to come out. and whenever and do it all again. because made that way. we need to rehabilitate and we never get enough publicity , never get enough publicity, television or anywhere else from anyone that is sympathetic doing something rather than just warehouse all these men . you warehouse all these men. you know the population's increasing in prison. the prisons new prisons are being built by the government as they see some kind of good thing in locking up more people and costing us an absolute fortune into the bargain . but rehabilitation is bargain. but rehabilitation is limited in the extreme . and i'd limited in the extreme. and i'd like to do something about that. john, before i bring him around . you said you speak from experience in in the system. what was your experience ? my what was your experience? my experience is current andrew. i currently go into prison taking poetry, storytelling , that kind

poetry, storytelling, that kind of thing into the men in the hope that they can bring a little bit of daylight into their miserable lives while they're in there. and the reason do this is because the i do this is because mental health takes a terrible backseat . they're terrible backseat. they're incarcerated , and while they're incarcerated, and while they're depressed and anxious and god knows what else , they won't knows what else, they won't listen to anybody. so the first place you have to get them listening and that's what i do. so there are many, many viewers . sure. and people in the population, the most. john, your conkers, what do you do that for? but i it because i think it's a very worthwhile cause. i do it because get paid for doing it and it tops up pension and i do it . i think it and it tops up pension and i do it. i think it's very worthwhile and i'd like to see more of it. i'd like to see more items on the tv, radio to do something about this awful criminal justice we've got because the absolute stinks . but because the absolute stinks. but well done to you, john, as a very good use of your time

miranda over to you. what do you what would you want to talk about ? hi, andrew. what i do about? hi, andrew. what i do know in my industry it's quite funny because i've say i'm a publican , so i get a lot of publican, so i get a lot of males and females in my pub. and when you're talking earlier about a safe space and safe places for individuals, when they come out , places for individuals, when they come out, i think it's interest doing that. you know, stephen bear no more you don't know or anything about him the biggest issue we have is this this culture of just man who you are. they're slightly untouchable. you know that how reality tv individual you know turning up to the pay the pay signs and the twitter you know i've got people in here we can we can come into pub that are in relationships . those relationships. those relationships. those relationships break down. they fall out. they know that the backlash of pictures of , their backlash of pictures of, their girlfriends amongst themselves or their boyfriends amongst

themselves , you know, these they themselves, you know, these they these people who are normal , if these people who are normal, if you like, public the general pubuc you like, public the general public they understand how damaging that is. public they understand how damaging that is . and it's damaging that is. and it's i think it's very refreshing that you ended up with a sentence because . it actually shows because. it actually shows you're not untouchable . you you're not untouchable. you can't behave like that. it's not acceptable . and it's quite good acceptable. and it's quite good for the for the young individuals that come out that think, you know, just because you mike's been sent picture of this bear or that bird or the girls share in that the like, it's not out with it's it's not going out with it's really quite refreshing to bear to see that actually , you know, to see that actually, you know, when, i was younger, you when, when i was younger, you know, a couple of years, we didn't have the, you know, we didn't have the, you know, we didn't have the, you know, we didn't have this, this online presence all the time. we had a relationship, you get you had some you didn't share pictures. you didn't share they just they just want to share so much more information . and i think it's information. and i think it's quite nice that we combine it back a bit and go, you know, this is non when you have got some and places to be you know

embrace that because you know it can be very murky , very murky can be very murky, very murky arise with you. yeah i was going to say arise of you on twitter . to say arise of you on twitter. yes. yes and do you get a get a lot abuse ? i went viral last lot abuse? i went viral last year from a gasping tweet. and so rock and roll, you know that was sharing in my last pub and actually a bit like you said earlier it when you put it out that i'm twitter because i want to be on twitter for me a little bit of a safe space in my industry, more so than kind of any of the other socials because other publicans understand me, i don't if somebody they don't know me, if they want to comment a point, they don't know me or you know, that's okay. all right. well, listen lovely to talk to you both. that's miranda richardson and john reid, who are our gb news voices. are two of our gb news voices. now, we've been discussing the latest the latest lockdown files in the telegraph leaked telegraph today. further leaked whatsapp matt whatsapp messages from matt hancock a team asked

hancock suggesting a team asked if they could lock up . how dare if they could lock up. how dare they? very own farage for they? our very own farage for being, quote a pub hooligan and breaking lockdown rules. i'm delighted to say nigel joins me now. nigel how would you have coped in prison, do you think ? coped in prison, do you think? well well, it's extraordinary, isn't it ? not only did that matt isn't it? not only did that matt hancock , he was given the powers hancock, he was given the powers of a mediaeval king, the coronavirus act clearly decided that know, maybe mr. farage should be singled out. but i've been a member of his staff. shall lock farage up. should we put him in prison? should we get onto the home office? try to make this happen and don't, sir ed davey , the leader of the ed davey, the leader of the liberal democrats, writing the police. look , i had been police. now look, i had been back from for 14 days, but whether the day i landed counted as a free day, i don't know , as a free day, i don't know, sir. maybe i'd been back for 13 nights and 12 hours, but way i'd been back for fortnight. i've had a test. i was negative . it

had a test. i was negative. it just goes to show how absolutely not only was lockdown and coronavirus , but the way in coronavirus, but the way in which the british state used abused the police force and everybody else drug makers living under a reign of terror. you know what? if i'm in because i went down the pub on days the pubs reopen , you want to find pubs reopen, you want to find me? you want to come and get me? you can. but i've got a bigger confession . and as those months confession. and as those months went on, we went into successive lockdowns i just started ignonng lockdowns i just started ignoring the rules i've only got absolutely ludicrous and i'm amazed that a lot more hello britain is dead. or maybe they did. wonder who watching this did. i wonder who watching this or listening to this didn't go visit a relative. didn't be a friend of gardens . the whole friend of the gardens. the whole thing crazy . and i have to thing was crazy. and i have to say , all of this should have say, all of this should have come out in a public inquiry already. the fact that it hasn't and it had to be leaked. well if that's how we find out, andrew, that's how we find out, andrew, that's how we find out we were

led through all of this by people who were in competent people who were in competent people with no experience and people with no experience and people for whom power literally went to their head. and in those in those latest revelations in the telegraph today. nigel, there is a lot about ministers saying we've got to effectively weaponize the police against people like you who may have broken the rules . yeah i mean broken the rules. yeah i mean disgusting can tell you the police or the police knocked on my door three times during penod my door three times during period but i also had what i'd been abroad and done stuff you know repeatedly people knocking on my door checking i was there . i mean, can you imagine the sheer waste of all of sheer waste of money of all of this? but but, you know, i worried about this because . we worried about this because. we always in the uk that we, always think in the uk that we, you know, our liberties our freedoms, we take them for granted . we look at europe that granted. we look at europe that went that went communist. we think could never, ever happen to us. what we saw during lockdown was using taxpayers money to terrify us with

adverts, to use all the of the state, including the police force , to try and lock us down force, to try and lock us down to encourage, to report on each other. you know, we literally lost our liberties and freedoms and it could happen again. and we've got to make sure this neven we've got to make sure this never, ever, ever happens. we need a full public debate , but need a full public debate, but we also need accountability , we also need accountability, say, from those that did to us. all right. that nigel nigel farage, our very own gb news presenter. and of course he'll be with us, of course, back in his usual slot next week. now the other day it was yesterday, in fact, the former prime minister, boris johnson suggested you may not able to vote rishi sunak's new vote for rishi sunak's new brexit deal for northern ireland. it's called the windsor. what's it called? windsor. what's it called? windsor framework, it's windsor framework, he said. it's about taking back that. about the uk taking back that. was it , which about the uk taking back that. was it, which would be a serious blow for . was it, which would be a serious blow for. rishi sunak he talked about tax and other issues , but about tax and other issues, but talking about. joining me now is , gina miller. she's the leader of the true and fair party and of the true and fair party and of course was leading voice on

remain side in the referendum . remain side in the referendum. gina, if i could ask you first of all about partygate. we now know boris johnson is to be before that privileges committee in the week beginning march. it's going to be chaired by harry they've released harry hammond. they've released a 30 page report today, which suggests pretty much that there was overwhelming evidence was pretty overwhelming evidence that knew that were being that boris knew that were being broken in number 10. i'm amazed it's taken them this long. it was obvious. i mean, you can't that level of noise and people going in, out and not knowing, i just think it's terrible how long actually for long it's taken actually for this inquiry to this stage. but i actually agree mr. farage, it's just been on your show to say it has be about accountability , has to be about accountability, has to be about how can it be one rule for them and one rule for everybody else? if you think many people weren't allowed, say goodbye or didn't have opportunity to say have the opportunity to say goodbye to loved ones or to just to go see friends who were to go and see friends who were suffering from all sorts of mental health other issues . mental health and other issues. i it's deplorable that i do think it's deplorable that they were flouting the rules ,

they were flouting the rules, bringing in you know, we know from the what's up lockdown files a very serious issue, files now a very serious issue, which is the decisions were being made that were not be not based on advice or expert advice. this was about politics. it's shameful . advice. this was about politics. it's shameful. gina boris said in his speech the other day that he will find it difficult to vote for sunak's brexit deal. he said it isn't really brexit know the european court of justice will still the ultimate arbiters of any trade in northern ireland. what is your impression of rishi sunak case? has negotiated with the eu . what negotiated with the eu. what rishi has done is use a that already exists in the withdrawal agreement and the trade and cooperation agreement which were placed there so we could renegotiate. if things weren't working well and we saw with northern ireland that things were not working well, the peace has under threat with has has is now under threat with has happened with the bombing recently and then also got john

caldwell tragic situation . so caldwell tragic situation. so what's happening is rishi sunak is now using political capital to use the mek isms that are already in those international treaties. the political will wasn't there the politicising of everything and the language that bofis everything and the language that boris was using was not conducive for both sides sitting down and. i think that's what we're seeing now, is a different mood and mood music in both brussels and the uk , because we brussels and the uk, because we can only move forwards if sides are willing to do so in a good faith manner. are willing to do so in a good faith manner . all right. that's faith manner. all right. that's gina miller, who's the leader , gina miller, who's the leader, the true and fair party scarlett mccgwire only got about a minute left on that brexit deal . i know left on that brexit deal. i know you're an arch remainer. i was a brexiteer. do you think that the commons should embrace it and approve it yeah. i mean, i this is as good as we're going to get, right? and i think it's really, really important that the of northern that they the people of northern that they can have pets taken over, they can have pets taken over, they can eat english sausages , all of

can eat english sausages, all of that. mean , the shame is, of that. i mean, the shame is, of course, as a remainer that the dealis course, as a remainer that the deal is not as good as we had before we before we left. alright. well i disagree fundamentally with that. of course that scarlett mccgwire you've or you've been watching or listening pierce here listening to andrew pierce here on news. next, the on gb news. up next, it's the briefing quite briefing with quite truly magnificent foster.

hello and welcome to the briefing i'm arlene foster. and here's what's coming up over the next hour. prime minister rishi sunak has presented his brexit deal sunak has presented his brexit deal. on monday, we'll be speaking . pamela gordon lyons speaking. pamela gordon lyons and the ceo of retail of northern former prime minister bofis northern former prime minister boris johnson will be giving evidence . the privileges evidence. the privileges committee on the week on the week commencing the 20th of

march as part of the