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drones in the first few hours of 2023 as russia continued its attack on the country. speaking as missiles rained down on kyiv president zelenskyy posted a year message saying he hopes war with russia will end this . with russia will end this. ukraine's armed forces say russia launched 12 airstrikes across the country overnight. curfews ranging from 7 pm. to midnight made celebrations for the start of the new year. impossible in public spaces . the impossible in public spaces. the archbishop of canterbury is urging the government to tackle what he calls country's broken social care system. justin welby used his new year message to say care homes are struggling to cover energy bills and retain staff. he's called on everyone to rise to the challenge of repairing the present system . repairing the present system. the government says social care was made a priority in last month's autumn budget, pledging £7.5 billion in support over the next two years. a record number

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neil fox fox. yes sir. mark dolan tonight with me, neil fox and my big opinion i'll be discussing the new years . certain politicians should for 2023. i'll also be olympian sharon davis , former boxing sharon davis, former boxing promoter and gender nebulas podcast presenter, free to wallace to debate whether british triathlon's open category to include transgender athletes is fair for all and the news agenda is dry. athletes is fair for all and the news agenda is dry . january news agenda is dry. january a badideais news agenda is dry. january a bad idea is the cinema making comeback? we'll look ahead at what's store for the royal family in 23. now at 1030, we'll bnng family in 23. now at 1030, we'll bring you tomorrow morning's front pages. hot the press and me throughout the show. i've got a great panel for you tonight. journalist and author hilary freeman. we've got brexit party mep de lucy and political commentator benjamin loughnane .

commentator benjamin loughnane. now i want to hear from you throughout the show and i think you might want to be getting involved. it's the views gbnews.uk. so for the next 2 hours, big debates , guests and hours, big debates, guests and always some pretty big opinions. so let's start this . one so so let's start this. one so we've nearly made it through the first day of the new year . we've nearly made it through the first day of the new year. and i'm hoping that if you made any year's resolutions , around 50% year's resolutions, around 50% of us make them every year. you haven't broken them already. otherwise that would be pretty unimpressive . it all started unimpressive. it all started really ancient rome afterjulius really ancient rome after julius caesar had a little with a calendar and established this day, january the first as the beginning , the new year. this beginning, the new year. this was about 2000 years ago. it was named afterjanus was about 2000 years ago. it was named after janus who was was about 2000 years ago. it was named afterjanus who was a two named after janus who was a two faced god, whose spirit inhabits doorways and arches and had special significance for the romans because they believed that janus looked backwards into

the previous year and into the future. and then offered sacrifices to the deity . and sacrifices to the deity. and made promises of good conduct for the coming year as well. now, early christians adopted this idea as well, and it became traditional on the first day of the new year , like this one, to the new year, like this one, to think about one's past mistakes and resolve do better and be better in the future. so just imagine if we could a new tradition now where our leaders had to public please state their resolutions for the coming year and acknowledge their mistakes and acknowledge their mistakes and ups over the last while publicly to do better and be better in the coming year. now, some people may say that's exactly what each party is. manifesto does, doesn't it ? but manifesto does, doesn't it? but if we're going to be really honest here on this first day of the year, i don't think any of us anymore believe of word that's ever said in any those manifestos they sound impressive. almost all of them

are unrealistic to actually that costed out by cloud lands finest accountants. it and as always they overplay and sadly under and now come to accept this as being acceptable. it shouldn't being acceptable. it shouldn't be , course. and at some point it be, course. and at some point it must not if any of our advertisers . this channel must not if any of our advertisers. this channel made false claims , their rights would false claims, their rights would be removed and they could they could be fined. and in the real world, if the ceo and the board of a company didn't do what they told their shareholders and investors they going to do, investors they were going to do, they be removed if they they could be removed if they wasted company money and resources they'd be held accountable. right but politics seems exist in some parallel seems to exist in some parallel universe to the real world. most of us live in. so let's find a way of focusing our political minds on not abstract. next five years, but just the year ahead. and give us one new year's resolution that they're going to try to achieve . and then let's try to achieve. and then let's look back next to see how they did . so what do you feel are

did. so what do you feel are political should resolve to do ? political should resolve to do? well, i've got a few. my suggestion maybe for the prime minister is to resolve to get a grip of his party to calm everything down. but give us a sense of stability. and a sense that he has a plan to somehow bnng that he has a plan to somehow bring together clearly a very fractured conservative party in westminster and around the country. so it feels like the party that people actually voted in 2019. oh, and then please deliver on all those brexit promises that will apparently transform our nation . that'd be transform our nation. that'd be good. transform our nation. that'd be good . keir starmer's resolution good. keir starmer's resolution should to finally tell us what he and would actually do if they were in power rather constantly pointing out what a pig's ear the tories have made of it so far. i mean, i know it has. of course, the gift that keeps on giving and giving, but going forward . we really need to see forward. we really need to see what a potential labour government would and could actually do. nicholas sturgeon perhaps resolved to get on with

herjob as perhaps resolved to get on with her job as scotland's first minister and simply listen to the people who elected you rather than constantly annoy westminster . and for the lib westminster. and for the lib dems , well, let's keep it nice dems, well, let's keep it nice and balanced. a good start for your resolution will be to make sure people in the uk know who your leader is . because i had to your leader is. because i had to google it today to remind myself. seriously oh, it's ed davey , in case you didn't know davey, in case you didn't know ehhen davey, in case you didn't know either. so how does all that sound to you then? keep it simple. keep it straight . each simple. keep it straight. each leader, one resolution. and this time next year , we get to time next year, we get to question how they did by back over the last year with them and talking honestly politics simple , straightforward and accountable . who the hell am accountable. who the hell am kidding? i so this is my to you this 1st of january. what resolutions do you think they should make ? we'd love to hear should make? we'd love to hear your thoughts . the leaders

your thoughts. the leaders resolutions, please. gb views. gb news duke now reacting to my big opinion a pretty top notch panel big opinion a pretty top notch panel. we've got journalist and author hilary freeman, former brexit mep belinda to lucy , who brexit mep belinda to lucy, who seems on very feisty form and. political commentator benjamin lochner as well. so belinda, let's start with you . have you let's start with you. have you actually made any resolute stance yourself? me, myself for sort of. i to always break from those and quite like having a few vices , i think it makes the few vices, i think it makes the life more bearable . but yeah, life more bearable. but yeah, just to, you know , use my phone just to, you know, use my phone less and stop vaping so much which i took up during lockdown which i took up during lockdown which wasn't a good idea to keep my children out of the house a more now in the fresh air. okay benjamin, how about you . well, benjamin, how about you. well, you know, on the of giving leaders resolution why give them another opportunity to lie and then you know break those promises . new year's resolutions

promises. new year's resolutions i think the way i see it is you should be doing that throughout the year anyway. it's a good time to, you know, refresh all your sort of life and go right, what am i going to do for the year coming forwards? but inevitably you break those these resolutions, you forget them within week year. so i within a week of the year. so i think should be something you think it should be something you do the do constantly throughout the year always and year where you always and reflect to make those reflect and try to make those changes. and hilary you're going to throw something more positive at us as well. my is the same as i make pretty much every year and i never stick to, which is to stay off social media, do more reading and finish my book , which i never get around to doing because i'm spend too much time on social media. but yeah, so should any resolutions. i agree . i agree with benjamin . agree. i agree with benjamin. there's no point just deciding going to do something because it's january the first. you know, you've just got to you've got to if you want to do it, you're going to do it. whether it's january the first or march the first, and you just got get

on with it. but maybe it's a bit like the romans used to do that. the a thousand thousand the journey, a thousand thousand miles starts with the first step. just anybody, step. so just anybody, just making that decision to go and just monologue at the top just in my monologue at the top there, we sort of hinted about and no believes them anymore and no one believes them anymore really is slightly really which sadly is slightly the think in a way the case. do you think in a way they should be imagine how different life would be if they were binding? were almost legally binding? if you such a thing? you could think such a thing? what think i would say what do you think i would say that be quite difficult that would be quite difficult because as we've seen in the past couple with the past couple of years with the pandemic and war, there are certain things that suddenly can hit country, that things hit a country, that put things a manifesto on a lower shelf. manifesto on on a lower shelf. however, what the conserved a party is pretty much abandoned them and i. i can't trust what what conservative party say anymore . you know, they preach anymore. you know, they preach a lot very action. i do think trust gone. it was very, very it was going to thinthread in 2019 and people made that kind of last chance. saloon trust vote in 2019. and i think we've been really let down. so i actually

expect a very low turnout at the general election. very sadly , general election. very sadly, with local elections first, of course, coming up, which which are always a strange. you can't imagine the conservatives doing particularly well in the local county and springtime. but i was just going to ask maybe benjamin, do you think keir starmer is going to have a better year this year? i mean, he needs to actually lay down ideas. it's been very easy up to now, let's be honest, just to sort of go they're doing a dreadful job, but but now when it's looking they might be it's looking like they might be having chance of back having a chance of getting back into the time in a into power the first time in a long time, we need know what long time, we need to know what they're to do. well, they're going to do. well, i think if anyone can play that lead. keir starmer. maybe think if anyone can play that lea new keir starmer. maybe think if anyone can play that lea new year'sstarmer. maybe think if anyone can play that lea new year's resolution aybe think if anyone can play that lea new year's resolution should his new year's resolution should to form an opinion on something once. i think thing once. but i think the best thing the party did in 2019 was the brexit party did in 2019 was just having manifesto at just not having a manifesto at all they said, well, all because they said, well, look, useless moment look, it's useless the moment you government, the you get into government, the situation the lay the situation changes the lay of the land different. got to land is different. you've got to make happen. you make decisions as happen. you got every day as it got to take every day as it comes effectively and promising things which in two years you'll

then the situation then bound by when the situation has changed, is inherently dishonest . you know, you're not dishonest. you know, you're not going to be able to live up to that. and i think people are now sick of know, every day sick of you know, every day rushes or liz truss versus rushes sunak or liz truss versus whoever prime minister is whoever the prime minister is today comes out says we're today comes out and says we're going set up a new we've got going to set up a new we've got this new policy, then nothing ever nothing ever ever comes of it. nothing ever happens. and i think have got to the point of exhaustion where. they're of being they're so sick of being told, you is what we're you know this is what we're going do. and it never. going to do. and then it never. they'd rather be promised at they'd rather not be promised at all, you know, just make it a surprise to do things and surprise just to do things and tell us off. tell us what you've don't tell us what you're going to do some stuff and to do. just do some stuff and then now. but although then tell us now. but although we of smile laugh about we sort of smile and laugh about it in many ways it is tragic in many ways that. that what politics have sort that is what politics have sort of got to in 2023. and hillary is there any way that we can on what do politicians need to do so that actually do start so that we actually do start trusting them again. i know telling truth would be a really good point you starting that. but i that the life but i know that the life changes. who knows happens

around world. it affects around the world. it affects obviously jason's decisions and you have to change. but what can do because at the moment that then trusted estate agents then trusted than estate agents amazingly so yeah i mean i think they need to just be honest and i think that they also need to show that they care more about people in this country than . people in this country than. they care about their own interests and know i think they just need to show that they care. and i don't they do that. they give that impression anyway. most of them. i also think actually when you were talking about truth , politicians talking about truth, politicians need to stop redefining pinning very fundamentally important like refugee woman, like man and problem is that truth is getting so because politicians are now flip out words that you know don't make sense anymore. i mean we can see with our eyes that the people coming over on boats and all the evidence behind it backing them. the majority are economic and yet still you'll have politicians standing up

calling every single one of them, you know, refuge guys and that's what i is distorting the distortion words, the redefining of words and the and also i'd say they've been using word misogynistic a lot recently , 60 misogynistic a lot recently, 60 meps wrote to complain about jeremy clarkson's bit on meghan for example, that i didn't like what he said. i'm not a fan of meghan, but there was nothing misogynistic in it at all. it was just criticism someone's and mocking of someone's character. now do that to women all now women do that to women all the time, but now politicians are using the word misogynist to describe criticism of women , the describe criticism of women, the word when people word racist. when people criticise people based on their actions , not their colour, and actions, not their colour, and it's all getting up and politicians really guilty of politicians are really guilty of this, they need to reinstate the original meaning these. original meaning of these. important used in important was that they used in the of commons please. the house of commons please. that's betraying trust as well. i a lot of thank i think that's a lot of thank you their leave it for you for their we'll leave it for that i it's going be a feisty that i it's going to be a feisty show until 11:00 tony i'm show but until 11:00 tony i'm looking forward it but coming up with british triathlon uk with british triathlon and uk boxing introduce some new categories category categories is an open category

fair for athletes get fair for all athletes get mckellen i'll see you in a few.

hey hey welcome back to mark dolan tonight i'm neil fox. thank you for your emails that are coming in new year's for government and ministers your spending in all departments to an linda says rishi one resolution's got to be to stop those small boats landing on our shores and gerry says i suggest the mps resolutions be to forget any personal ambitions and support the party manifesto that they were elected . that would be they were elected. that would be a good start it write more of them, please . views at gb news. them, please. views at gb news. don't uk write as sport continues to with the transgender rule . the british transgender rule. the british triathlon federation's new policy for an open category came into force today. the going to be divided into two categories

for athletes over the age of 12, there'll a female category for who are assigned the female sex at birth and an open or in simple terms all individuals, including male transgender and those non—binary who are male sex at birth british triathlon, said the new approach follows on from a survey of over 3000 members that found 80% are in support of the changes . support of the changes. meanwhile, in last week last week the boxing so world boxing council have announced they will introduce a transgender for fighters separate to the men's and women's categories. now to discuss this , i'm joined by discuss this, i'm joined by former olympic swimmer and television presenter sharon davis. so welcome along. happy new year. sharon is . this the new year. sharon is. this the right move? it sounds a lot more inclusive and fair to me . good inclusive and fair to me. good yes, good. i mean, what transformative in leading the way, really in this country with such a policy they announced that they were to do that the

middle of last. that they were to do that the middle of last . and it's a very middle of last. and it's a very fair policy you know, this is about protecting female pathway, but creating an opportunity for everyone to be involved in sport . that's why have the open . that's why we have the open category mentioned category. you mentioned transgender , those that is transgender women, those that is people that biologically but people that are biologically but also people are also enables people are biologically female that are on test. so you wouldn't be allowed to compete the female to compete in the female question rules to be question because the rules to be able to compete as well so is enabung able to compete as well so is enabling to be able to enabling everyone to be able to compete also enabling compete but it's also enabling females to still have their sport which is what i've always been fighting for. well, i'm sure, of course , was the sure, because of course, was the big around last year. leah big story around last year. leah thomas , university of thomas, university of pennsylvania , swimmer, who of pennsylvania, swimmer, who of course had transitioned from a man and was just an incredible swimmer, just won everything . swimmer, just won everything. and then the weightlifter as well, we had these two really start cases that proved in a way how things to change, however tncky how things to change, however tricky the situation wasn't, however inclusive any government governing body was trying to be. clearly some kind of they needed

to do some, i guess lines , in to do some, i guess lines, in the sand and just say, look, we need make some rules here. and this does seem, i hate to say like common sense has prevailed . yeah, i that is what we've been after all along really is basically using the science. so there's 17 peer review sites for folks in the world. the last just which just before christmas, which shows cannot remove shows that we cannot remove puberty now in olympic puberty advantage now in olympic sport. that's anywhere from about weightlifting at about 10% to weightlifting at 30% is something like box thing a male and a female of equal weight. so this isn't someone bigger stronger this is someone of equal weight, height and size. male will 160% harder size. a male will 160% harder onto a female structure , which onto a female structure, which actually is more fragile , actually is more fragile, structure is more fragile. so it's incredibly dangerous. and something like a contact sport in boxing. rowing you know . something like a contact sport in boxing. rowing you know. but be any of those any of those sports are going to be incredibly dangerous. it's really important to put safety first. then we put fairness and then we make sure we come up with ways to inclusive, because

it really is important that can do so. it and this for anyone obviously is transitioning itself is a hugely emotional time for them obviously by the time for them obviously by the time they get to be competing like this, they will have transitioned and will have had to done so far. i think to have done so far. i think three years is what the ioc is saying. but of course has to saying. but of course it has to be fair because people people as well . i was be fair because people people as well. i was going to say people like yourselves have all like yourselves have trained all your sport your life to do a certain sport and then maybe there's a if the rules have still not changed, there would have been chance, there would have been no chance, maybe may been the maybe second may have been the best could have yeah, best you could have done. yeah, i mean absolutely. you know, you say three so we actually lots of sports as well as a fiancee two is when you mentioned earlier thomas was year and that thomas it was a year and that was such a reduced of testosterone levels from male levels testosterone to ten levels of testosterone to ten nanomoles testosterone. levels of testosterone to ten nanomoles testosterone . to nanomoles of testosterone. to lisa, i have than one. most lisa, i have less than one. most females have one. you females have than one. so you know that was ten times the average and they were still allowed to compete and they only had to do that for ten, you know, for a year. the last study

that three christmas that came out, three christmas showed doesn't really showed that doesn't really matter carry on training, matter if you carry on training, if your if you suppress your testosterone a male when there's very little science so it's just an unfair situation and women worked hard to get some form worked so hard to get some form of equality sport. we still don't have that. we're still very long way away from what males have in sport. but we are gradually getting and this was definitely going push definitely going to push us back. this isn't about, you back. so this isn't about, you know, transphobic know, anyone being transphobic or believing the or anyone not believing the sport everybody . this was sport is for everybody. this was about saying that biological, which half of the world, which is half of the world, deserve right to be for deserve the right to be for opportunities success in opportunities of success in sport and let's find better solutions that swim of ways and female and open seems to be the best, but the world boxing council also announced on thursday they're going to thursday that they're going to introduce a transgender . now, introduce a transgender. now, i'm all for that as well. introduce a transgender. now, i'm all for that as well . you i'm all for that as well. you know, that's a way forward that the athletes like it to the athletes would like it to be.then the athletes would like it to be. then let's support that , be. then let's support that, too, and let's make the federations work. transgender groups people and athletes to groups of people and athletes to find things that will work for

them. you came in an them. now, you came in for an awful of didn't you, awful of stick, didn't you, before few views. why do before a few of views. why do you think that is and do you think actually that has it calmed ? i hope it has for you. calmed? i hope it has for you. and you this will help calm things down in general. and you this will help calm things down in general . yeah, it things down in general. yeah, it has. i mean, i think seen the word across it said , you know, word across it said, you know, federation making you dance and deciding that they were going to protect you must be helped. a great deal that was off the back of what they could see happening would live. well, i didn't want to was that have to have a leah and sport and every single sport for people did what they already people who did what they already know you we have two categories at the olympic games males and females for a reason if we didn't have that women wouldn't win events it would be won all by men so that why we have it in the first place and to say that there's no difference of testosterone makes no difference. we ridiculous, you know. honest . let's know. so let's be honest. let's work the science and let's work with the science and let's come good come up with really good solutions. have got solutions. things have got better. we still get massive pilots every once in while . pilots every once in a while. but, you i've only ever

but, you know, i've only ever wanted work with the science wanted to work with the science and only ever wanted that wanted to work with the science an be only ever wanted that wanted to work with the science an be fair»nly ever wanted that wanted to work with the science an be fair sport/er wanted that wanted to work with the science an be fair sport forwanted that wanted to work with the science an be fair sport for everybody.t to be fair sport for everybody. and when there is a and i think when there is a passport it should be passport for men, it should be fair for women. mean, fair sport for women. i mean, let give a ridiculous let me give you a ridiculous example. what's going on at the moment usa rowing, for moment in the usa rowing, for example. have turned example. so usa have turned around and said the women's around and said in the women's anyone identify as a woman anyone can identify as a woman and compete when . it comes to and compete when. it comes to the mixed relays . other words the mixed relays. other words when they're supposed to be two women two men, only biologic women and two men, only biologic females can part because it females can take part because it will affect men . and you tell me will affect men. and you tell me how that is fair. will affect men. and you tell me how that is fair . well, i'll how that is fair. well, i'll we're going to continue this discussion in a moment. but discussion in just a moment. but for moment, thanks for for the moment, thanks for joining us. and yeah, i wish you a happy really a happy new year. really appreciate bring in appreciate that. let's bring in former maloney former promoter kellie maloney and gender nebulas podcast , and gender nebulas podcast, frieda wallace. so frieda, welcome along and a very happy new year and also as well, kelly, how do you feel these new rules? you feel they are fair ? rules? you feel they are fair? is that to me? yes. sorry for it. yes, it is. well, i. i don't

come to this as a sports person . i'm quite willing to listen to . cher and talking about we should follow the science because i don't follow that kind of. what's interesting to me about debate, why it's about this debate, why it's happening now and there's this kind been astronaut kind of been chevron astronaut win some quiet trans people win with some quiet trans people on twitter and that's just a matter of facts and this kind of invasion narrative . trans women invasion narrative. trans women are taking over and it's going to be a problem from . it really to be a problem from. it really is. and you can count you can name them on one hand, maybe the track the trans women that are making waves in sport. track the trans women that are making waves in sport . and also making waves in sport. and also this isn't a new thing. making waves in sport. and also this isn't a new thing . this this isn't a new thing. this goes back to like 1976 when rennie richards , she was in the rennie richards, she was in the us tennis open and she played as trans woman. it didn't create the kind of hysteria that it now the kind of hysteria that it now the reason these things are creating these waves now is because we live in a culture climate. so somebody like , me is climate. so somebody like, me is seen as the other, you know, i you can criticise me based on my otherness and that's the problem

ihave otherness and that's the problem i have with it. i'm all for fairness sport because it wouldn't make sense . somebody wouldn't make sense. somebody was winning everything. like if i started i'm not a sports let's say if i enter the sports category i'd do a bit of swimming and they just start winning. how would that benefit me? because i'm like some kind of sort trans super of there's no sort trans super woman not woman that's winning. that's not happening . so i'm not sure there happening. so i'm not sure there were there the case of leah thomas , i suppose that she thomas, i suppose that she wasn't winning everything . she wasn't winning everything. she wasn't. highlighted wasn't. but it highlighted a problem guess, it was problem i guess, and it was a problem i guess, and it was a problem that was like, okay, maybe we try and be fair maybe we need to try and be fair to and inclusive everyone, to and inclusive for everyone, but do that so that if you but do we do that so that if you happen that person against happen to be that person against leah you felt was incredibly leah and you felt was incredibly unfair, that , you know, you're unfair, that, you know, you're trained all your life , that trained all your life, that moment. i know because the numbers clearly, you quite numbers clearly, as you quite rightly say , very but rightly say, very small. but we're trying make it we're just trying to make it fair. i mean, do you think the specific one, for example, and the reason we're talking about it is, course, because it today is, of course, because the rules come into effect. the rules are come into effect. so for british triathlon, so say for british triathlon, there is this open category. does that seem like common sense

to you actually come out bringing you kelly? do you bringing you kelly? what do you think ? well, i am from the think? well, i am from the sporting world, and i do believe fair play and safety first in sport. you know. but you talk about the swimmer. she only won race. she was in about eight races that day and she didn't break any records . you'd like to break any records. you'd like to say she and, the new zealand weightlifter , didn't even weightlifter, didn't even qualify after first round yet remembers . qualify after first round yet remembers. it's qualify after first round yet remembers . it's not qualify after first round yet remembers. it's not just qualify after first round yet remembers . it's not just about remembers. it's not just about the physical side, it's also about the mental side . and a about the mental side. and a trans person goes through a hell of a lot of stuff to get to where they are today, and it takes time mentally, you know, i agree with the wbc rules. what they come up with , i think they come up with, i think that's very good because that is sport that you have to have class safety. but i think, you know, we will see how the transcript goes. the wbc have obviously set a precedent by setting a trans category , so setting a trans category, so

it's led the way for other sports to follow. it's more of a political in a sports decision . political in a sports decision. but i totally agree a trans should not be allowed to box biological in any form of combat sport other sport. i think have to look at you know i listened to look at you know i listened to sharron davies i respect sharon's views . you know she's sharon's views. you know she's entitled to her opinion. same we are but we need more . you know, are but we need more. you know, i work with sports and i've got one who told me, yeah, they do a slight advantage , but it depends slight advantage, but it depends on how far you are in your transitioning. i know testosterone level is near enough. as low as what sharon said hers is because i have my bloods and my testing done . six bloods and my testing done. six months. okay one thing i'd like to ask is i. i guess what is good about this ? we can sit down good about this? we can sit down this and we can debate it sensibly and rationally sometimes on social media, things get out of control because just becomes name calling. but we can sit down and

russell and talk about these to make sure all feel happy. let's get that free too. can i ask you as a member of the trans community, do you think how are they reacting to this new policy save for the triathlon so they feel that this feels fair does it feel like common sense at. well, it doesn't feel fair because it seems like segregate and it feels like. well if i was and it feels like. well if i was a sports person , i'm forced to a sports person, i'm forced to play a sports person, i'm forced to play with men . and i don't have play with men. and i don't have the i mean . i don't want this to the i mean. i don't want this to trickle down to the amateur level. i wouldn't somebody who is to trans suddenly think they can't be involved in sport because sport is not just about it's not just about pure science and physicality. it's about striving being the best person you can be and being and overcoming . and i think trans overcoming. and i think trans people relate to that because in their daily lives so when we look at when we look at sports heroes, we're not looking at the stats, we're looking at this person is a great example . person is a great example. somebody that's, you know,

fought for what they wanted to achieve in life . and i think achieve in life. and i think there's another there's another layer story . so layer to the sport in story. so i know i can understand sharon davis you know, and we have to look at the science because there is a sports science, but all that is like i was thinking about, you know, the women's euros, the lionesses. yep if you look at the patriots , there were look at the patriots, there were 32 year old women on, the same field as 17 year olds, sorry, 18 year olds. and i was thinking , year olds. and i was thinking, if you're going to talk about parity, you can't cherry pick. you know, you've got to if you want if you have to look at sport completely in the sense of science and parity. sharon davis be allowed to compete because she well, how tall is she? you know what mean? like you'd know what mean? it's like you'd have well, you're have to say, well, you're physically to, be a swimmer physically big to, be a swimmer because you're going to win everything, you know, to me. and so you can't you can't do that. i that's that's rather i think that's that's rather different. say. and different. i have to say. and kelly. what i mean, what do you feel about what frida said there as someone who's been involved

in sport was i agree in sport i think was i agree with your view on that you with your your view on that you know sport is sport we have categories sport. you know in and someone yeah you get all women you do get smaller women you do get to remain you know you do get to remain you know you take it more like boxing lennox lewis who i looked after he was 666, six and nearly 17 and a half stone. he could fight someone. that was 13 and a half stone and 14 stone and maybe six. so, you know, that's just human. all human bodies are different , but that has to different, but that has to that's kind of what i was saying. sorry just from my point of view is like, oh, such great freedom. a level playing field in. yeah yeah. sharon davis has got quite big shoulders. she's very powerful woman and she's a good swimmer , but she is trained good swimmer, but she is trained for that you have to remember, most people trained all their life . it's also as i said life. it's also as i said earlier, it's a mental thing as well with sport , you draw well with sport, you draw yourself on to achieve something

and we have we have opposite sides. you know, we have scientists say there is no there is no advantage. we need the scientists to sit around the table and this, you know , we table and this, you know, we can't use the trans community as a football to be kicked about by, say, right wing politicians anti trans people. you know i'm all for sitting around a table talking and discussion and comes out right if the science comes out right if the science comes out right if the science comes out right . out right if the science comes outright. sharon out right if the science comes out right . sharon says 100. then out right. sharon says 100. then we go that the science comes out right that that times women don't have an advantage. then we should go with that. kelly, thank you . it's been very thank you. it's been very interesting hearing . all your interesting hearing. all your thoughts tonight on sharon's. well, and this is something that isn't going to be sorted out today sure, but at least today for sure, but at least discussions and discussions have started and moves been it made. thank moves been made. it made. thank free. to thank you very much, kelly thank you very much. i wish both a very happy new wish you both a very happy new yeah wish you both a very happy new year. well, coming up in the news agenda with my panel is 2023 to see the return of

2023 going to see the return of the hollywood blockbuster ? we've the hollywood blockbuster? we've got the papers at 1030 with full panel reaction . well, but next, panel reaction. well, but next, we'll be asking dry january could be bad for you. could actually be bad for you. yeah staging .

a happy new year. it's mark dolan tonight. i'm not marked. i'm in, clearly. but he'll be back tomorrow. i'm neil fox looking after things. thank you very indeed for emails very much indeed for emails they're coming in and you're getting quite heated is good betty says this is about new year's resolutions for mps how about a government actually communicate rather than burying their heads that will be a novel resolution . start talking to resolution. start talking to unions put proposal laws for unions and put proposal laws for when the country can afford it . when the country can afford it. mark new year's mark in cardiff says new year's resolution defy a jeremy hunt talking about trends in sport. juue talking about trends in sport. julie says biological males are

still males in female sports. why your trends still wanting to have females disadvantaged when other options are now being made available . this after the available. this after the british triathlon have decided that today there are two categories. there's female and then there's open and white for everyone else but this is a debate that's going to be going on and on and hopefully people will be getting this sorted. but let's talk about drinking. cheers he says steak, another slugger, tequila oh, god. the show is going to be good. it's january the first. and just in case you've woken up, you didn't know which it was, which means many of you will be partaking in dry maybe boozy dry january after maybe boozy new year's eve , i'm sure many, new year's eve, i'm sure many, of course, many of you won't, though. so we're asking question can dry january be bad for you helping answer this is drinking coach i didn't know they existed called sandra parker from just the tonic hello there and we've

got tv personality ryan parsons as well . hello there. good as well. hello there. good evening. and happy new year to you both. firstly can i just talk to you? sandra firstly, a drinking coach sounds like i'm on fox. ye, we can get you to six pints tonight. come on. it's like coaching me to drink more. i know it's not. of course. what exactly do you do? and how can dry january bad ? hi there . dry january be bad? hi there. happy new year. happy new year to you what i do is i work with people who recognise that they've got a problem with alcohol so they tend to be high achieving and women who are drinking more than they would like to . and what i do is help like to. and what i do is help them take back control so that they can enjoy their more , they can enjoy their life more, whether they prefer to on to dnnk whether they prefer to on to drink occasionally , to drink drink occasionally, to drink moderately, or to not drink at all. but the key thing is, i help them get in control so that they can make the decision themselves. okay now, ryan, can i ask you , are you a boozer? and i ask you, are you a boozer? and would you like to cut down a

little bit, maybe on your boozing ? would you ever consider boozing? would you ever consider doing dry january now? do you think it's a good idea ? well, i think it's a good idea? well, i love to drink . think it's a good idea? well, i love to drink. i'm a social animal. i'm a bit of a party. why person? and for new year's eve, i was out very i've actually got some wine left over here from last night that i'm drinking right now. and it's very good . and i like to say i'd very good. and i like to say i'd like to say that drinking has so many benefits. and i think people that participates and enjoy generally. i'm pretty dull , i'm boring because . what fun , i'm boring because. what fun can you out on the weekends when you're with your friends go club try the bar and you haven't got any alcohol. i think that's most miserable thing i could possibly imagine . so i think giving up imagine. so i think giving up alcohol is the worst you could do at any point in the personally. well, okay a slightly extreme view, i'm sure there , but i'm not sure you're there, but i'm not sure you're out partying last night. a lot of people were. but but maybe if

you do fail, you might be drinking, not my age. you want to cut everything. but as maybe sandra saying you just sandra was saying, you just need to it a bit because. to cut it down a bit because. it's you know, you're doing a bottle a night or whatever it may be. and you think this may be. and you just think this is we know it's not great is you. we know it's not great for health. it's lots of for your health. it's lots of calories has adverse effect calories and has adverse effect on liver and everything else. sandra, mean, i think ryan sandra, i mean, i think ryan has a slight extreme on his non a slight extreme view on his non stop there but but on stop partying there but but on a serious aspect is a dry january a good thing to do or maybe do we need to look at other lifestyle changes? well i think it's great to examine relationship with alcohol, but the problem with dry january , the problem with dry january, most people that drink than they want to feel conflict. it's because on one hand they want to get control over their drinking. the prospect of january, which is , let's face it, for a lot of is, let's face it, for a lot of people, feels like quite a miserable month, the prospects of getting through dry january drinking makes it feel it feels quite miserable for most people

. my guidance is that for people who are drinking more than they want to , it's better to look at want to, it's better to look at why you're drinking and a lot of people need some guidance, some support to understand the reasons why they feel they need alcohol . so we're trying to cut alcohol. so we're trying to cut it out from once it elevates it to this elixir. and i know when i was drinking, i never made it through dry january. i thought january was a terrible idea . i january was a terrible idea. i thought it needs a bore and one through a miserable month, even more miserable. it made me want to drink more in february, so it's not a long term solution but is great to examine where you are and you know, i don't think it's the best solution for andifs think it's the best solution for and it's a good idea to. look at your drinking for sure. okay i mean, ron, when do you say you imagine going out without any booze?i imagine going out without any booze? i mean, a lot of people obviously have have the drink when go out with their when they go out with their friends it loosens friends because it loosens him up. you've tough day. you up. you've had a tough day. you just want to. maybe it just want to. yeah, maybe it loses those chuckles but loses some of those chuckles but also helps maybe give them

also it helps maybe give them a little dutch courage little bit of dutch courage sometimes talking people sometimes and talking to people they normally want they wouldn't normally want to talk maybe says talk you that maybe it says about your personality that you've got constantly drink you've got to constantly drink that then . you do that right then. but you can do things surely in moderation doesn't always have to be to excess . no, i doesn't always have to be to excess. no, i agree. i think moderation is good. so exercise some moderation when drinking. i understand there's a lot of health when it comes to drinking excessively, but think you should also examine there's a lot of health benefits as well when it comes to drinking i was reading studies today, for example, that drinking in moderation can actually reduce your risk . moderation can actually reduce your risk. heart disease , reduce your risk. heart disease, reduce reduces your risk of developing kidney stones. it makes you more social. it boosts your sex drive. there's so many benefits when it comes to drinking alcohol that isn't widely discussed and sometimes think that think there's a lot of that i think there's a lot of judgements, there's a lot of doom and gloom when it comes to drinking. i know there's fun aspect, then if you drink aspect, but then if you drink too much judged everyone, too much judged by everyone, i think just have a good time as you've all said, january is a

miserable we've got train strikes up . it's going to strikes coming up. it's going to be wet. it's going to be cold. just get a bottle of dry. now i've done live a little . so what i've done live a little. so what did i say in french? judge it was it draw rather vague or whatever exact . okay. live for whatever exact. okay. live for today you might get hit by a bus tomorrow . i today you might get hit by a bus tomorrow. i have today you might get hit by a bus tomorrow . i have that. today you might get hit by a bus tomorrow. i have that. have a glass of wine. that's what i always got. let me tell you about a couple of things in the serious question, obviously, for sandra as to ask maybe as a sandra as well to ask maybe as a last question. firstly, boosting your sex drive after few your sex drive after a few pounds much , it probably pounds or too much, it probably goes the other way. let's be. but there you sandra, is but there you go, sandra, is booze us in any way? i booze good for us in any way? i have heard, as all heard, have heard, as we've all heard, maybe red wine is good. maybe some red wine is good. occasionally moderation. occasionally or in moderation. it be a little bit better for the heart. true i think it's. i think it's that classic case where we hear something , says where we hear something, says alcohol's great for us. and we post it to people, you know like winston churchill, live to be one hundreds and he driving in gallons of gin every the i don't

believe the alcohol is good for you i don't judge anyone for drinking know the clients that come to me they want to make the change themselves . i teach change themselves. i teach people to judge anyone else really to do it for yourself. so i don't personally think it's good you, but i also don't believe in bonding it. and i don't believe in judging others for drinking has to be a personal decision. all right, sandra, i really you being on and i wish you a happy new year. and obviously, ronnie, you get back body. okay? so back to your body. okay? so i you much. and i wish you you very much. and i wish you a very, very happy new year. if you are struggling at all with drinking or alcohol, we will put something up on screen to try and help you, someone you can contact on and have a word about anyway. after the break, we will be diving into the popcorn, something rather different as we discuss the return of the cinema blockbuster. we will see you in 3 minutes .

welcome back to the thanks for joining us. a couple of your emails actually about booze and drinking and dry january says, i gave up drinking because of a heart problem . not hard drinking heart problem. not hard drinking occasionally. so instead i drink drinks. alister says alcohol is like any drug. it's addictive . like any drug. it's addictive. just a bad habit. well if you're struggling at all with drinking , 90 struggling at all with drinking , go to ww dot drink. delko dot uk was 2022 the return of blockbuster cinema. the pandemic saw cinema audiences scatter while streaming services benefited from a stay at home population . but benefited from a stay at home population. bu t £2 billion population. but £2 billion movies like top gun maverick , movies like top gun maverick, record breaking avatar the way water have bought cinema straight back into the spotlight

. so we're asking have we sweet and to the popcorn experience or are we still a little bit salty about the cost now who might know more? is the editor of celluloid junkie , patrick van celluloid junkie, patrick van zyl wachowski . are we returning zyl wachowski. are we returning to the cinema? patrick i kind of hope so because i love it. happy new year by the way. happy new yeah new year by the way. happy new year. and people are definitely returning to cinema and avatar has proved that if top gun, maverick and all the blockbusters of last summer aren't enough. but the important thing 2023 , is going to be thing is 2023, is going to be the first post—pandemic year at the first post—pandemic year at the cinema . we're going have the cinema. we're going to have a slate and going to be a full slate and going to be something for everybody. whatever you're into , you're whatever you're into, you're going to find it at your local multiplex. i mean, it's la. will the levels ever get back to prep pandemic? i would say no, because during that time we all got netflix . so we felt when we got netflix. so we felt when we found these other services and they weren't very expensive and all the time, actually, i have to say, i love the cinema. don't get me wrong, i really and go as

often as can because i love often as i can because i love that screen experience, but actually went to see actually to see i went to see recently example, the juke recently for example, the juke now that was on telly, which is great film, but don't need to great film, but i don't need to go big screen to see that go to the big screen to see that but do to go to the big screen but i do to go to the big screen to maverick top and say to see maverick top gun and say the marvel movies and the big marvel movies and avatar. course, you want that avatar. of course, you want that experience of the sound on the big screen. so maybe, maybe movie companies realise movie companies will realise there you put on there are some movies you put on at big screen there are at the big screen and there are others actually you just others that actually you just don't so it'll change don't need to. so it'll change and like everything does . and adapt like everything does. and cinema has been . adapting and cinema has been. adapting for 120 527 years, in fact. but here's an interesting fact over the christmas , the biggest film the christmas, the biggest film in cinema was avatar, followed by the boots, the third biggest film was love, actually inside limos, and the fourth biggest was elf. i mean, people have stayed at home and watch those and yet they went to the cinema because it's an experience. it's not just about the movie. like i said, it's popcorn. it's, you know, the great sound, the big

picture, the comfortable sofas and with a kind of film slate, we've got an 2023 people are definitely going to be coming back mean for once for a start 21st of july put that date in your you're going to be seeing an epic at the multiplex when you have the new christopher nolan film up heimer about the father of the atomic bomb going head to head with robbie's barbie , directed by greta gerwig barbie, directed by greta gerwig . you know, just the fact that they've got two huge films like that coming out on the same day tells like there is confidence that people be coming to the cinema . also, i saw the trailer cinema. also, i saw the trailer other day that did look just crazy good was tom cruise, of course, and mission that's coming out with that amazing stunt we've all seen and probably look to that how the making of the stunt but the sort of money they're throwing at these now is incredible these things now is incredible and i guess that's part the reason you know when you go reason why you know when you go to you take the kids it's to the if you take the kids it's not a cheap experience anymore. it in fact you know, five quid for like a normal little popcorn

it feel like slightly it does feel like slightly you're being ripped know you're being ripped off. i know they've got pay for it. how they've got to pay for it. how how come? and the seats are getting better. getting bigger and better. that's we that. what that's good. we like that. what do can do maybe do you think they can do maybe to keep the cost down a little bit that to encourage us to get there ? well, there is definitely there? well, there is definitely that cinema a treat. it's night out for people. it's an indulgence but you can go to cinema very cheap if you're a film fan you can have an unlimited card lets go and watch as many films as you like or you can go on cheaper on mondays . so can go on cheaper on mondays. so tuesdays when the price are reduced or they do the meerkat movies where you get special deal for watching films when you have something like the new indiana jones , then definitely indiana jones, then definitely you will want watch it on the big screen and. the same for mission impossible, the same transformers. john wick horror films. you know , like scream and films. you know, like scream and a quiet place . they really only a quiet place. they really only work in the cinema and that's what makes people to get up from

the couch and go to cinema because it's something , hey, because it's something, hey, there's one. there's one big movie you missed out for year, by the way, which is a chicken run. dawn with a nugget of course. but, you know. but but those do so well as well those films do so well as well because they're fun and nice escape as the movies have always they're lovely way to in they're a lovely way to go in their your phones off, their turn your phones off, which of like way which i kind of like the way they do turn your phones they do it. turn your phones off and yourself go into and indulge yourself and go into another you can escape a another so you can escape for a couple over 3 hours. in couple hours or over 3 hours. in avatar's case. but you know, you can transform into a different place a bit escape the doom place for a bit escape the doom and gloom of . january exact. place for a bit escape the doom and gloom of . january exact . and and gloom of. january exact. and we talked about all the strikes and everything. cinema is the perfect escapism and chances are it's going to be a dire year. we're going to want escapism. we're going to want escapism. we're going to want escapism. we're going to want to go and see films like and feel good films. let's forget about films. let's not forget about it. we've got goal wins. it. so we've got next goal wins. coming small film by way coming up, a small film by way to take vicky about the samoan team that performed worst of all in an international they lost 31

zero to australia so hired a dutch coach to coach them to how to score a goal any goal based on a true story based on the british documentary perfect feel good film lovely patrick thank you very much indeed for joining us tonight and i wish you a happy year in the movies. okay, nice. thank you. hey, coming up in the next hour, have tomorrow's papers with full panel reaction. a new scheme that drastically reduce that will drastically reduce your cost to well, your travel cost to well, see your travel cost to well, see you surely .

welcome back to mark dolan tonight . i'm welcome back to mark dolan tonight. i'm neil fox with welcome back to mark dolan tonight . i'm neil fox with some tonight. i'm neil fox with some big should the government make £2 bus cut fair permanent. we'll talk things royal family in 2023, including prince harry's memoir , which are released in

memoir, which are released in ten days time. the king's coronation . and plus, where will coronation. and plus, where will we see a slimmed down monarchy this year? we'll have tomorrow morning's front pages at 1030 sharp. and our panel will take that. great britain's and union jackasses for 2023. first up, though, the headlines with right anderson . thanks, neal. here's anderson. thanks, neal. here's the latest from the gb newsroom catholics have been praying for former pope benedict at mass services across the after he died aged 95. earlier, pope francis paid his respects to his predecessor addressing worshippers at the vatican . worshippers at the vatican. tomorrow morning, pope benedict's body will be brought to saint peter's . he will lie in to saint peter's. he will lie in state for three days until his funeral on the 5th of january . funeral on the 5th of january. the president of ukraine says his military shot. the president of ukraine says his military shot . down five his military shot. down five drones in the first few hours of

2023 as russia continued its attack on the country. speaking as missiles rained down on kiev president zelensky posted a year message saying he hopes the war with russia will end this year. ukraine's armed forces say russia launched 12 air strikes across the overnight. curfews ranging from 7 pm. to midnight made celebrations for the start of the new year. impossible in pubuc of the new year. impossible in public spaces . the archbishop of public spaces. the archbishop of canterbury is urging the government to tackle what he calls the country's broken social care system . justin welby social care system. justin welby used his new year message to say care homes are struggling to cover energy bills and retain staff. he's called on everyone to rise . the challenge of to rise. the challenge of repairing the present system. the government says social care was made a priority in last month's autumn budget, pledging £7.5 billion in support over next two years. a record number of migrants almost, next two years. a record number of migrants almost , 46,000, of migrants almost, 46,000, crossed the english channel to the uk in 2020 to according to

the uk in 2020 to according to the home office, there's been a steady increase since 2018 when just 299 people were detected . just 299 people were detected. the prime minister has promised to introduce laws this year, making it clear those who enter the country illegally that they won't be allowed to stay and northern california started 2023 with severe weather the past 24 hours, including flooding and an earthquake . storms and heavy earthquake. storms and heavy rains triggered severe flooding and forced residents in some areas to evacuate a 5.4 magnitude earthquake forced . the magnitude earthquake forced. the closure of at least one bridge, a safety were carried out. it comes just a month after the last big quake where two people died. that we're on tv, online and on dab plus radio. this is gb news. the people's . back now gb news. the people's. back now to neil fox .

to neil fox. thanks very much indeed . the thanks very much indeed. the price of a single ticket on most local buses in england is going to be capped at local buses in england is going to be capped a t £2 for the next to be capped at £2 for the next three months. now, this could save thousands literally . some save thousands literally. some intercity routes. kochi school day only and airport services are excluded. as well as those services which don't normally allow the use of free bus passes. bus fares london, greater manchester and merseyside and west yorkshire are already capped. so what will this bring to your daily life and? local economy across the country ? you can get in touch country? you can get in touch please at give at gbnews.uk. so we are back with our panel. hilary we are back with our panel. hilar y £2. it's actually really hilary £2. it's actually really good. it could save families an awful lot money. people are going to be saying, you should this last longer than three months. yeah, i mean, absolutely . i mean, i'm always absolutely amazed. i go out london amazed. and i go out of london how much cost? i mean, how much buses cost? i mean, often it's probably cheaper to get it to

get a neighbour than it is to get a neighbour than it is to get the bus. and, you know, busesin get the bus. and, you know, buses in london are capped . and buses in london are capped. and i think, you know, people take that for granted. it's more that for granted. but it's more like huge to families. i mean, like a huge to families. i mean, if you you get on a bus and if you if you get on a bus and there's four of you and it's, you know each, that's just you know, £5 each, that's just just to get from a to b, that's a hell of a lot of money. so yeah, think it definitely yeah, i think it definitely should be something that lasts for longer because, you know, it's but but taking bus is a it's but but taking the bus is a way of getting people to go . way of getting people to go. city centres, which is something that's really badly needed. and it creates community as well. so i think and, and of course it stops people using their cars. so i think it should be a priority to keep the fares low. and although fuel costs have come down over the last couple of months. thank god , because of months. thank god, because they ridiculous fill they were ridiculous to fill expensive £1.60 gallons. so yeah it's a way of for people also don't have cars and the option it's a way of helping them around cheaper. belinda what do you think? i think it should

definitely be made permanent and i don't know why has it hasn't been done before. you know, it's quite clearly a clearer high streets are struggling. also streets are struggling. i also you green all the you can't preach green all the time while making it financially impossible to use your like you have to put on fares that people can actually accept . do twice can actually accept. do twice a day, three times the school run mums take the bus for the school run and as you said it could be 20 quid if you've got three kids. so and i hope it does stay open.i kids. so and i hope it does stay open. i have a feeling it might do because to cancel something like that it's going to be quite a headline. you know, government cancels this march. so i actually feeling maybe actually have a feeling maybe this a little bit of this is just a little bit of a practise and i mean, it's about 4000 bus routes. i hope it gets expand to all bus routes outside london. i it would be london. and i think it would be good for the to show some good for the tories to show some compassion they can find compassion if they can find money ukraine and for, you money for ukraine and for, you know, other things that don't seem very relevant to our nation travel system right now. they can find if they can find the money for things like this, they

can't keep saying, oh, we haven't got any money. and then doing foreign aid and then, you know, frittering away loads of money on furlough things know, frittering away loads of monthatn furlough things know, frittering away loads of monthat whenyugh things know, frittering away loads of monthat when they things know, frittering away loads of monthat when they suddenlys know, frittering away loads of monthat when they suddenly on like that when they suddenly on a yeah. they have to a monetary yeah. they have to spend when spend that's going to say when everyone's about that everyone's talking about that level the government keep talking levelling up this talking about levelling up this big actually big expression this actually seems a genuinely sensible seems to be a genuinely sensible yeah to be a yeah. helping level up to be a bit scrooge if they suddenly took away . well you took away. well you know you can't have these green can't have all these green policies penalise car policies trying to penalise car users make it impossible to users and make it impossible to have the chance we have have any of the chance we have in we've got a great in london. we've got a great pubuc in london. we've got a great public transport system, but outside even like outside of london, even like ten, outside of london ten, 15 miles outside of london andifs ten, 15 miles outside of london and it's awful, you know, it's expensive the buses never turn expensive. the buses never turn up, you know they're like once an you're lucky, and an hour if you're lucky, and then cancelled . then that might be cancelled. you're in you're sitting around in a freezing stop. you freezing bus stop. you think i might as use my car even might as well use my car even they ramp up the prices and, put all sorts of costs and levies on it. you know, you end up using the cars anyway all that the cars anyway and all that that green agenda stuff that sort of green agenda stuff does cost of does is increase the cost of doing people continue to do doing it people continue to do it doesn't actually work the best get people out of

best way to get people out of their improve public their cars to improve public transport and you can do transport and if you can do that outside the centres and outside of the city centres and actually people incentivise actually get people incentivise people use public people to use that public transport, know that's transport, then you know that's a way of going about it a better way of going about it rather just a better way of going about it ratherjust green communism. rather just green communism. yeah mean the westminster yeah i mean the westminster often being accused of just being too london centric in politics general, being that politics in general, being that i a fifth of the population i know a fifth of the population live in the south—east that means don't. right and you means 4/5 don't. right and you know, a time when these vast know, at a time when these vast numbers we've been hearing of, for example , for hs2 have been for example, for hs2 have been bandied for years now insane amounts of money. yeah. you know, do we need to get to manchester 7 minutes quicker? not know, think of not really. you know, think of it just if you take that it could just if you take that money and put it into bus fares and then put into all those and then put it into all those little railways got closed little railways that got closed over the last over the years over the last decades, open them up help decades, we open them up to help people go from east coast to west coast in the north. wouldn't that be smarter ? i wouldn't that also be smarter? i do maybe one they do think maybe one way that they could make money or save could make some money or save some taking another some money is by taking another look. bus pass thing . look. the free bus pass thing. because, you know, now that we're retiring much later

we're all retiring so much later , it doesn't really make sense to give someone who's a free to give someone who's 60, a free bus when they might be commuting to work and at top of their to work and at the top of their career, earning the them career, earning the of them a and so maybe it should be means tested or maybe it should start later . that's right. tested or maybe it should start later. that's right. yeah. i have to say i have got my bus pass. have to say i have got my bus pass . no, no i have to say i have got my bus pass. no, no i didn't do that and i, i use that you kind of think it's just slightly inside. yeah, that's brilliant. but slightly crazy too. i have to be honest. we've got to get people out and about. but i mean, you make good point, though. it make a good point, though. it only lasted at the only lasted months at the moment. okay. it's moment. it stops okay. it's hugely popular. three months if it stops . yeah. and take it away it stops. yeah. and take it away . think the press would be awful. and i think they're cleverer that so that's why i have a have a feeling this may have a i have a feeling this may be like a little sort of be just like a little sort of plan to it goes and plan to see how it goes and i don't have your confidence oh something think it has to happen this and i think we've got this year and i think we've got to get the high street and shops everything such everything they've had such a hard need to get people hard time. we need to get people of it working from home well and

also the chance of also get people the chance of living slightly and living somewhere slightly and commute able to commute commute to being able to commute easily congestion easily, getting the congestion down are fed up of, you know, the traffic jams and all that sort thing. so i think it's good. come on. conservative party doing one good inspiring thing. mean, permanent thing. i mean, if it's permanent for london know it's for london you know it's difficult to say actually difficult now to say actually with to stop it in three months time elsewhere i mean it would be awful even london. i mean, they they there a massive they they there was a massive recently they were to recently and they were trying to get rid of loads of bus routes some were petitioning in my area, they were going to get rid of that there were no of routes that there were no other transport. other means of transport. children have been able to children would have been able to go to school. there's no reason it. you had dr. beeching it. i mean, you had dr. beeching cuts to the railways in this country london once had the country ago. london once had the best tram system in the best tram tram system in the world. we just ripped it up world. and we just ripped it up for . no good world. and we just ripped it up for. no good reason, you world. and we just ripped it up for . no good reason, you know, for. no good reason, you know, just got rid of it, tore it all up you have to sort of think up and you have to sort of think we better infrastructure 50, we had better infrastructure 50, 60 years ago do now. 60 years ago than we do now. what's happening? we should be increasing be increasing and we should be improving especially

improving it, especially when the population increasing improving it, especially when theronulation increasing improving it, especially when the fon ulatio surely:reasing improving it, especially when the fon ulatio surely want1g improving it, especially when the fon ulatio surely want more year on year. surely want more infrastructure, and infrastructure, not less and cheaper quality , not cheaper and better quality, not more expensive and worse and even when there aren't strikes on trains are cancer old, you know, and then people get forced back their cars we get, back into their cars and we get, oh, all for we're oh, you're all for we're polluting, killing polluting, you're killing the environment the of it. environment and the rest of it. it's you've not it's like, well, you've not given options. you know, given us options. you know, we've to drive because we've got to drive because there's no other way of getting about getting in contact. about people getting in contact. honestly and salford says, why should taxpayers should we taxpayers subsidise this ask about in a this? i'll ask you about in a moment. jonathan this moment. jonathan says, this will save nothing . how many take a save me nothing. how many take a bus for just single journey? most return , especially if most get a return, especially if you're going work myself you're going to work like myself and this is actually not correct return fares are also capped at £4. all right, jonathan, but what about why should taxpayers subsidy this? well, i think it's the government mismanage , our the government mismanage, our money in the first place. there are get money are many. they could get money if they wasting it. had if they wasting it. they had such a blank check culture in our government they just see that taxpayers money is an infinite that they can infinite source that they can just dip into. and i think we

need to hold them to account than ever and say, look, you've need to hold them to account than ev�*taxesi say, look, you've need to hold them to account than ev�*taxes manageyk, you've need to hold them to account than ev�*taxes manage it you've need to hold them to account than ev�*taxes manage it you'iso got the taxes manage it well so you can help people with their transport if it came to saying, oh, to raise taxes to oh, we have to raise taxes to fund think that's fund this. and i think that's different. but i do the different. but i do think the hopefully to in hopefully trying to arrange in a better way that this frees up. like i would be interested to know where the money comes from. i think it's million that i think it's 60 million that finance and helps. think it finance it and helps. i think it for about 80% of what the councils i councils are contributing. so i think and i think think it is a gift and i think it's doable. it's actually not a lot of money. it's trip in the in the ocean and we people to make money if people make that money back if people are active and they're are like active and they're going they're spending going places they're spending more money economy more more money the economy is more lively. not even you're not lively. it's not even you're not even money. returns even losing money. the returns are community and are really for the community and they to they really are most to the cinema. but guess, you know, cinema. but i guess, you know, for the last few years when you saw the amount of money and it was numbers, was eye—watering those numbers, covid and, the covid and the ppe and, the wasted money, we had during those which insane , those years, which was insane, actually. you understand why actually. you can understand why people are going well, if you could a way print money for could in a way print money for that lost money for this that coming lost money for this the other right now this is it's

a of money it is a drop a lot of money but it is a drop in the governmental in the ocean in governmental terms you're absolutely right should thing maybe should this same thing maybe move onto train because i mean the trains so i have to love going by train there's nothing nicer , but it's expensive. so nicer, but it's expensive. so family on the train. yeah. if you try to go from london to any other major birmingham, other major city birmingham, manchester, spend manchester, whatever you spend over is cheaper over hundred quid, it is cheaper fly. yeah i mean if you're go shopping in paris, it's easily shopping in paris, it's easily shopping london. you know, it's ridiculous. and yeah, it's not a case of subsidising it, it's about making it cheaper through other measures and we, we have a terrible system in this country mean they're going up 5.9% on these . it's not a better these. it's not a better service. no, no, no . a better service. no, no, no. a better system. i don't know what we're paying. and if i never pass my driving test, so maybe people should be read nationalised . oh, should be read nationalised. oh, yes. well run, run, run more efficiently run. because nationalised always me for most people thinks you think in efficiency but if they were just

one company, one set of rails, one company, one set of rails, one company. do you not think that maybe smarter but run efficiently. no i don't. that fills me dread i dread the british way it was all right oh no and they're so unaccountable then as . well, it's i know it's then as. well, it's i know it's not great now and it needs to be reset but renationalise the trains. no, that me with fear. i just don't think they be run by organisations trying make a profit. i don't see why you know if he does it he may have it as a for not well i think london and tfl they put them, they put the money back tfl don't now. so not do that for the national railways . well which is a modern railways. well which is a modern version on national. yes to a certain extent but, but making it efficient which is what it needs to be because it was dreadfully unofficial when i was a kid. so i know like old style british rail, but you know, the modern slant on it all sounds . modern slant on it all sounds. see, she's sweating over the train. the trains are so much, though. i will give them that. it's a nice. the journey, you

know, the seats aren't all falling apart. there's not kind of rubbish everywhere. it's i remember the old days and they're laughing. but yeah , a they're laughing. but yeah, a lot of, a lot of it was, but but you know, it's a great way to travel now. it is a great efficient way to travel. and most times it's bang on time and. it's good. i know we've got these strikes to get through at these strikes to get through at the moment guess you can the moment and i guess you can understand if people had understand maybe if people had a pay a understand maybe if people had a pay a long time when pay rise for a long time when seen printing for seen the government printing for money years, you're money last four years, you're going, oh, can i please have some more? needs to be some more? but that needs to be sorted because it's not the sorted out because it's not the best way really. support i best way really. support know i don't you're don't think you know when you're sweating it's only taught me the thousands sound of thousands of sound of nationalisation oh get yourself a right. up, a cup. all right. coming up, we've got the papers at 1030 and we'll be talking things royal with angela coming up after this .

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tonight. i'm neil fox. welcome back to mark dolan tonight. i'm neil fox . and let's tonight. i'm neil fox. and let's talk about the royal family because 2022 was a very difficult year for. because 2022 was a very difficult year for . them as we difficult year for. them as we get into january we wish king charles and the rest of family a very prosperous year. here with me to discuss things royal is angela levin, who knows her stuff . angela, happy new year. stuff. angela, happy new year. thank you so much for joining us. so, i mean, all those years ago, we had the annus horribilis as described by the queen it was as described by the queen it was a it was a dreadful one last yean a it was a dreadful one last year, wasn't it? i think it really was actually . i mean, really was actually. i mean, because they had all the cover it around and it was very difficult to know how to operate , what with harry and meghan , , what with harry and meghan, prince andrew having presenting a dark over the royal family i think it was it was really difficult. and also knowing that the queen wasn't very and that she was so lonely shrinking and without her husband she lost so

much of her as royal de vivre. so it was a very difficult time, but they came over it very well. i think they got through the pandemic very well and queen, because she is not been known terribly well by people and. she did an awful lot of zooming and talking to families who had very ill children who weren't getting their help to people who were on their help to people who were on their and actually cracking of jokes. she's very she's very mischievous . woman i wrote a mischievous. woman i wrote a biography which came a few months ago, which is hilariously funny, very quick thinking, but very, very kind. and i think that she got a lot of support for that as well. but clearly that on the first month of the queen's jubilee year, platinum jubilee , she made the statement

jubilee, she made the statement . i think everyone was shocked that she wanted committed to be known as queen consort , not known as queen consort, not princess consort . now the princess consort. now the interesting about that is that when camilla and charles got married . they clarence house married. they clarence house split up that she would known as princess. now it's a nonsense really because if you marry a king , it doesn't really because if you marry a king, it doesn't happen very often . if you marry a king, you often. if you marry a king, you a queen. right. you can't be a princess. and it was a way of being derogatory her. she doesn't mind what her title is. she's not one who's a big fuss about. she's not one who's a big fuss about . but they could have been about. but they could have been about. but they could have been a lot going on in parliament saying should she be princess, should she be queen. and it could of a lot of rough and tumble and been difficult. so the queen this is what she wanted made it straight because in parliament, i believe is going to actually fight that because this is one of the

queen's important wishes . so queen's important wishes. so that's made it very straight . that's made it very straight. well, let's talk about the coronation. may the six notes, of course , it's actually the of course, it's actually the coronation of king charles third and queen camilla. yes and do you think that's mean, the queen elizabeth, the second was an incredible ceremony that we know now watching the crown that the prince philip had said should televise this, because this is a huge for the world and the commonwealth how are going to commonwealth how are we going to view king charles her third coronation. is it going to be a huge affair ? will it be scaled huge affair? will it be scaled down? well, i think that they put their feet in the water gently two or three months ago when they said they were going to be very cautious about how much they spent because were having a difficult time with money and they would keep it quiet and there was a huge huge noise . no we want it terrific . noise. no we want it terrific. we loved the pandemic. we loved the celebrations . we don't want the celebrations. we don't want you to cut money. let's have it

. we can do it so well in this. and let's have all the all the wonderful things that go with it. and i think that's what they're going to i think they're going to be attacked . they spend going to be attacked. they spend too much or too little. that's inevitable. but think we're going to see all the marches and the wonderful music that ? the wonderful music that? actually, they do . britain does actually, they do. britain does so very well, especially occasions. i mean, the funeral was epic. i have to be that was just it was a spectacle that the world literally marvelled at. and that's we do so well. and we did it brilliantly. we really did. and you think be more of the same to you? yes, i'm sure will. it'll be much shorter instead of 8 hours. i think it's going be two or three, which is plenty . it's going be two or three, which is plenty. it's going to going be two or three, which is plenty . it's going to take fewer plenty. it's going to take fewer time for people go through processing into the westminster abbey because it's going to be 2000 people instead of about eight or 10,000 people. but

apart from that, i think it's going to be very grand. i believe camilla has chosen her dress. she's chosen her crown. she's already to go for it. expect it's not from prime. i'm guessing there was a ribbon cutting cost on this one. naughty kate maxwell. nothing like that . a question for you. like that. a question for you. do you think that harry is going to be at that coronation ? well, to be at that coronation? well, i king charles has been i think king charles has been clever said it's open clever because he said it's open for him , you know, anybody from for him, you know, anybody from the family . welcome. so it's up the family. welcome. so it's up to harriet. make up his own mind. i don't think they're going to pressure it. press pressure them do to come . and i pressure them do to come. and i think they'll be in a difficult because what you have to do is you have to swear allegiance to the king. you have to go down a nail. now, will harry, do that. we'll make and let him. that's a big question that hangs over the coronation . everybody has to do coronation. everybody has to do that. and so he can't escape . that. and so he can't escape. there's got to sort of think

about that carefully. i think that it will take a lot of attention away. if they come, there'll be a lot of booing. they've lost the love that he wants in the in among the people. he was one of the most popular, wasn't he? was popular, yes. other than the he was incredibly popular. he was very lively. he was full of wit, all that. but i think if you leave it like that, we shall see. but i think he will also depend on the book spare, which is coming out on 10th of january. and read today that meghan's also a moaning book which will come out straight after that and i think it depends on what they say and how rude they are . but it's a how rude they are. but it's a difficult one. but i think it is a difficult one for a father, especially king who's a father to actually stop us coming . of to actually stop us coming. of course, it would be very difficult, but i think that it this keeping it open but not sort of pushing things is just the right way to do it. but then

forget his art, his birthday is going to be actually busy. so they've got an and say this is more important . one thing i must more important. one thing i must ask you is about when i was looking at the king's speech, i thought i have to say i thought it was very good . it sort of it was very good. it sort of gave us an idea of what this new slimmed down royal family will be. that's himself, be. that's obviously himself, camilla. there's kate and there's william . we saw edward there's william. we saw edward and sophie course as well, and princess anne and princess anne, the hardest working. very much under the radar all the time. just work . we've got a printout just work. we've got a printout of all the things she's doing this month. it's by far more than the others put together. it's incredible . but that's how it's incredible. but that's how it's been for years for her. i think she'll take on a bigger role. yes is now she could be one of the four counsellors of state if a king charles goes or he's not well he has to have somebody to stand for him. and it was going to be harry or andrew, but it's gone through

parliament and could now choose new people and he's got his sister, princess on the instead and edward, his younger brother and edward, his younger brother and i think that's ideal. it's also hopeless if they're not in the country they've got be ready i think. should princess be needed. she'll be top right. seem to be getting on tremendously . charles and now tremendously. charles and now i didn't know that they were so close , but now they seem to be close, but now they seem to be very solid and part that is because they both have a very, very strong sense of duty. and they believed in what queen elizabeth did and they want to carry that desire to be face full and help the country , the full and help the country, the commonwealth. well thank you so much for coming on and imparting wisdom to us. i think we're all excited about may the sixth. i have to say. yes, and slightly

worried about what's going to happen with harry's book and meghan's book. but thank you and appreciate you coming, which you're very new year. thank you. i'm that croquet . oh, i'm sorry that croquet. oh, gosh, i need some more tequila . gosh, i need some more tequila. the papers with full panel reaction coming up very shortly. i'm will find out who our panel thing will be. 2023 is great britain . and union jackass . britain. and union jackass. we'll see you after the .

break so happy new year. and on the first day of january, let's see what joy front pages of the tomorrow morning's papers bring us . it's not too much, tomorrow morning's papers bring us. it's not too much, i'm afraid . let's have a look. the afraid. let's have a look. the mirror. firstly 500 deaths a week due to the nhs crisis. up to 500 people a week could be dying to emergency care delays . dying to emergency care delays. a top health boss warns . awful. a top health boss warns. awful. the front page of the. tory

voters blame government for the nhs crisis poll shows conservative voters believe the party has failed in its management on the nhs the past decade, according to a new poll. shared exclusively with i. the guardian front page fury at ministers plans for new real terms pay cut for nhs . i mean terms pay cut for nhs. i mean cuts seriously . this is not what cuts seriously. this is not what we need . also great pay picture we need. also great pay picture of a of a lady celebrating the end of an era of devastation in brazil . so the elections over brazil. so the elections over there, the mail have got rishi's trivial triple new year headache . the scale of the accept new year challenges facing rishi sunak was laid bare. the first was the devastating revelation the nation's top a&e doctor that up to 500 patients a week are dying because of delays. it's awful at the moment. the daily star. climate change. crisis mad councils spend millions new trees and thousands . critics

trees and thousands. critics fury over bad job amid extreme weather and the express has got hundred patients again dying a week due to delays. so got a great superstar panel us tonight which has been good will see our panellists nominations for the great britain and onion and jackass a little bit later on. but let's have a chat firstly. hilary what do you think which obviously it's 500 deaths. it's dreadful story. yeah. it's horrific. and sadly not surprising given what's been going on and the cuts but what that the headline as start struck me the most was tory voters blaming the government because if the tories have lost their own followers and own followers no longer believe that they're in charge and in control and, and obviously the nhs is important . everybody, no matter important. everybody, no matter what political persuasion you are, because we all need it. and i think that's real indictment of the governance over the last 12 years. and bearing in mind last few years, i mean, how quickly , you know, people forget

quickly, you know, people forget and politicians forget, you know, boris nearly died . the nhs know, boris nearly died. the nhs was to save him .we're all was there to save him. we're all out clapping. every out there clapping. every thursday night the during lockdown for what a brilliant job they did. and then, of course, it all and it's all course, it all ends and it's all forgotten, sadly. belinda do you. i mean, it's the same story, the rounds. but story, obviously the rounds. but yes. when their own yes. when the when their own voters are saying i'm sorry, you've lost it. it's quite a common though, not just within nhs . yes, think tory nhs. yes, but i think tory voters are angry at the conservative party and blame them for the migrant crisis not controlling our borders. that northern protocol. northern ireland protocol. i think tory voters are starting to be more angry at the conservative party than labour voters and this the big loss. voters and this is the big loss. the conservative party. they've really alienated was their 2019 voters. i mean, they have also beenin voters. i mean, they have also been in charge for 12 years. i know at points they were coalition, but that was, you know, only for a short time have had control over this. and now with an 80 seat majority, there's really no excuse they they reset nhs and they should have reset nhs and made big bold early on instead

of just tinkering around the edges with the nhs tinkering the edges with the nhs tinkering the edges with the nhs tinkering the edges with our borders, with immigration. edges with our borders, with immigration . they haven't got immigration. they haven't got the spine to make the decisions. they don't have the courage, be disliked by the sort of lib dem . they're constantly trying to chase and you're never going to vote them they've turned vote for them and they've turned their their original their back on their original voters. almost they're voters. it's almost like they're completely the conservative completely from the conservative voters at the moment. yeah so you've been in politics as an mep and it is easy to sit on the sofa and just say, oh, they should do all these things. what they do. what would you do with they do. what would you do with the nhs? yeah, i would completely. the working conditions for doctors and nurses and concentrate on that than pay at the moment because struggling at the moment it's not the nhs staff that not unique the nhs staff that are going through difficulty with paying we all are. with paying bills. we all are. but working conditions don't have be so appalling. we need have to be so appalling. we need to far more nurses and to attract far more nurses and doctors and doctors to the profession and keep them from country and keep them there from country and start training them up more and giving them more time off. i mean, these doctors in a&e are

literally worked to the bone and burnt out. so many are leaving the profession at a time the medical profession at a time when our universities only 15% of british students onto their medical courses. so the government haven't got a grip of we are going to staff the nhs because staffing issues i think far salary payments at moment and that can be addressed. i when our economy gets a bit better exams we have a situation we've got nurses to foodbanks well they're on that i don't quite believe i think that is a bit reality tory story. well because if you are on mean there are plenty of people in the country on what 30 grand average a year salary why they going to foodbanks and i know it's struggle and i'm not i'm not i love nurses and i fully back them striking just not knowing when we don't have any money but the foodbank stories i was a big opfics the foodbank stories i was a big optics nhs has optics thing and the nhs has become little bit political become a little bit political and they are using as a bit of a football bashing thing against the and the foodbank the tories and the foodbank thing. i don't think that's a majority of nurses at all. it's

a job. know that gb news have a job. i know that gb news have to many nurses who had to do that sadly, but so it's an ongoing problem. benjamin how that sadly, but so it's an ongoinyou oblem. benjamin how that sadly, but so it's an ongoinyou solve|. benjamin how that sadly, but so it's an ongoinyou solve thisnjamin how that sadly, but so it's an ongoinyou solve this within how that sadly, but so it's an ongoinyou solve this with the. »w would you solve this with the. yeah, what, what what is solution? the nhs is a golden . solution? the nhs is a golden. any time the government tries to go into it, everyone just go into near it, everyone just goes touch leave it goes no don't touch it, leave it alone. there's clearly alone. but there's clearly problem need to be problem that need to be resolved. allowed do resolved. but not allowed to do anything all. if they we anything at all. if they say we have an agency workers. have to have an agency workers. we to rely less on agency we need to rely less on agency workers. we're them above workers. we're paying them above the to come and a lot the odds to come in. and a lot of these people are former nhs staff gone to agencies staff who've gone to agencies because. flexible because. they want more flexible working conditions working hours, better conditions pay- working hours, better conditions pay. say we can offer pay. but if we say we can offer that from within the nhs rather than having so much regulation and things make it and all the things which make it impossible that internally if impossible to that internally if we, make it more we, you know, make it more efficient all the rest of it, it would be a lot better. but you go anywhere near it and all the left wing press, stop it, left wing press, oh, stop it, don't touch nhs golden calf. we're to do we're not allowed to do anything. are anything. so the government are in of a catch 22 in a bit of a catch 22 situation. i the mail situation. but i think the mail got it right. it's not just the

nhs, the migrant crisis, that's a problem as and many other a huge problem as and many other issues people are issues which are people are getting of there's never getting fed up of there's never been a better time in this country a third party. country for a third party. you know wants labour they know no one wants labour they think things will get no think things will get worse. no one tories. they've one wants the tories. they've had to do something and had 12 years to do something and they've time they've done in that time there's never been better time for party. i think you for a third party. i think you know who stands up and know anyone who stands up and goes, going to seize the goes, we're going to seize the opportunity will gain a lot. what's though is what's interesting though is i think we are all as think we are probably all as shocked together shocked sitting here together on those when. it those news headlines when. it said four years ago, actually five years because was five years ago, because it was in crossed. in 2018, 299 migrants crossed. and were, what, 46,000 and there were, what, 46,000 last year? mean , that is a last year? i mean, that is a staggering people . i staggering number of people. i mean, were discussing this mean, we were discussing this last panel as well last week with our panel as well going that's 6000 who going that's 6000 people who have conned out of a lot of have been conned out of a lot of money by some evil people who are putting boats and are putting them on boats and taking grand apart for taking five grand apart for it. why don't we get some people out there to stop it from that end. just stop they're not just stop. stop they're not paying just stop. stop they're not paying lot of paying this up front a lot of the a loan they end up in the time. a loan they end up in very wage work, car washes very low wage work, car washes or worse, organised crime.

exactly. the black and they're paying exactly. the black and they're paying it back to the traffickers in this effectively indentured servitude. so you've got a black market slave economy happening in this country as a result of this crisis because they're not paying it upfront, they're not paying it upfront, they're paying it back through this work and we're allowing it to happen we're letting it run out control. government could out of control. government could belligerency measures they did enjoy that. so why enjoy it like that. yeah so why couldn't they stop albanians and, know, put it put a and, you know, put it put a motion through last week, get it? they don't really care if don't about it they don't care about it if they wanted done would be done wanted done it would be done by now. the don't have now. and the people don't have faith. the conservatives want immigration. they want to solve faith. the conservatives want imnboat:ion. they want to solve faith. the conservatives want imn boat crisis hey want to solve faith. the conservatives want imnboat crisis because to solve faith. the conservatives want imn boat crisis because the solve the boat crisis because the black gives and black economy gives millions and millions into our millions pounds worth into our economy it makes you economy. and it makes you wonder, they so relaxed wonder, why are they so relaxed and go about actually and slow go about actually making tough decisions to stop this? because germany rejects albanians from safe . why haven't albanians from safe. why haven't we passed an emergency is a crisis. it is i mean it's a the numbers are huge clearly of whoever these people are . and whoever these people are. and it's this is just an enormous amount of people. and it just

seems to be we don't know who they who these people are they are, who these people are coming. we want the right people to to our country. need to come to our country. we need growth. need skills, we need growth. we need skills, we need people. businesses. people. we need businesses. this, is this, this and this. this is solving crisis is solving the nhs crisis is fuelling the black market is fuelling the black market is fuelling fuelling indentured servitude. not positive servitude. these not positive things country you might things the country you might make a case of immigration saying we to shortages saying we need to plug shortages in you know labour markets or whatever i personally would say that recruit people from that we can recruit people from this train them this country, train them up rather doing that. so, rather than doing that. and so, however from poorer countries that can stop that need them, they can stop that. but that's that's a separate issue when got separate issue when you've got it towards the it entirely going towards the black economy. that's black market economy. that's a disgrace to the entire country. and it should be. is there any way that we take the nhs out of politics because late because of line up but it almost needs reset button take because it gets kicked around like some kind of political football all the time and it's too precious, it's too good , you know, it's too good, you know, everyone's envious of our nhs and we all needs it at times but it gets used to doesn't it gets

used for political reasons. what do you remember the olympics ceremony when it was you ? it was ceremony when it was you? it was like, this is, this is britain, this is what for the world is. yes yeah. and but it is it is like, you know, if say to people what makes britain british that is one of the main things that people come up that it it really is it really is important us and i think you know we forgotten what it must have been like before the nhs if you didn't you and you see it in america people die because they can't afford get health it's shocking . get health care. it's shocking. i'm just gonna look at one one of story. we've got you of the story. well we've got you there and you're in such flying this evening. panel, thank you very were just very much. we were just discussing , obviously, discussing royals, obviously, a moment front of moment ago. the front page of the mail william's relationship with with with hanging with hanging with harry is the key. it's very william's relationship with harry by a thread . it's sad, harry by a thread. it's sad, isn't it, from these two boys who grow up. we watch them all grow up so close, so tight particularly after what happened

with their mum . it's sad. i with their mum. it's sad. i believe that's even the threads left. i'm surprised it's go anywhere to hug . i feel very anywhere to hug. i feel very sorry for william . he's got sorry for william. he's got a lot of responsibility . he's got lot of responsibility. he's got to be the next king. he do anything publicly , he's got to anything publicly, he's got to try and do this privately. and it just seems as though harry is resistant any attempts at resistant to any attempts at reconciliation and he's gone off to america he's this memoirs he's the documentary and he he's done the documentary and he clearly has a lot of unresolved trauma and issues around the family . and, of course, william family. and, of course, william is very limited in what he can do to reconcile that. and it must be very difficult when you're in such a public position. you're so much scrutiny around you. it's hard enough. when you don't have that scrutiny . it's so family issues. scrutiny. it's so family issues. it must be so much harder for william. yeah, all you excited about the coronation ? i'm so about the coronation? i'm so excited. i'm already it. but i've already told the girls going to get our tents. we're going to get our tents. we're going to get our tents. we're going to camp the night before. and a huge it's such and it's such a huge it's such a historical moment. we know how long to wait . hopefully

long we have to wait. hopefully a you know, one king a long time. you know, one king charles, i have a very long line, but could a once in line, but it could be a once in a lifetime chance for people . it a lifetime chance for people. it is brings the country is it brings the country together. and so to easy be together. and it's so to easy be anywhere. the envy of the world. people will be flying in from all over the world to get a little bit of who we are, our culture, our history with this coronation. this is people love about our country. that's why the monarchy brings so much money abroad. was going money from abroad. i was going to a funny feeling to i've got a funny feeling doesn't know it is talk doesn't know what it is talk about body language the and the idea. yeah honestly i couldn't care less i have no i don't wish them any ill. i know i'm not you know, i wouldn't even say that i'm a particularly a republican yeah. i'm fairly happy that we have a royal family but it's probably best to me , you know, i probably best to me, you know, i don't mind that much , but i don't mind that much, but i really honestly, if i another bank holiday where there's no school kind of my associates and other childcare issues is the

issue we think jobs is all about . yeah so selfish i know i know , i know, i know. it'sjust , i know, i know. it's just yeah, i oh that sort of pomp circumstances so yeah it's interesting to watch you know i watch it for half now watch on the headline news where you can come and join me. the headline news where you can come and join me . channel ten come and join me. channel ten live outside the uk . excited live outside the uk. excited about this. look fantastic opportunity is one of the things that will really i think unite lot of people. maybe not hillary, but we've had so much division over the past years when the queen people when the queen died, people really it would be really together and it would be great have the same thing but in less is have a great sort of less sad is have a great sort of you know celebration everyone get together you know the whole world is focussed on i hope harry come because actually it will take away the attention the papers be filled with harry and william instead of they to william instead of they have to invite him it's he should do invite him but it's he should do the right and perhaps will the right thing and perhaps will come up. as our guest said, it is archie's birthday that day, so that's a pretty good example

. you say so who knows? . yeah you say so who knows? anyway just like being fussy. we do do it well though. but there's no doubt that this royal family now from we are needs to move on from where it was before history has changed times changed people's expectations have clearly changed of what a knew royal should be in a knew royal family should be in a more inclusive world potentially. so i think it'll be interesting to see where goes. yeah, yeah. i'm going to be glued to my screen. i'm going to say i think carlos is more political. elizabeth was they say wants to be more say he wants to be more involved. some of less involved. yeah some of the less perhaps be an issue perhaps that might be an issue of well that yeah of contention well that yeah that could cause some that certainly could cause some problems. could be an problems. yeah could be an interesting i go we like to interesting if i go we like to talk up next this could be good our panellists nominations greatest britain and union jackass but after the break do we need easter eggs on the shelves already series say i know it's new year's day it's mental si .

and three. hey just in case you had a crazy night last night you know new year's day today and to not mention that because we've just had christmas but now we already have shops putting out easter eggs.i have shops putting out easter eggs . i know this sounds daft. eggs. i know this sounds daft. it's please give us a break. look, here come some pictures of shops with there we are right shops with there we are right shops putting up easter eggs. this is boxing day. shops putting up easter eggs. this is boxing day . it happens this is boxing day. it happens sooner and super every single yeah sooner and super every single year. honestly i. what do you guys think , linda? i mean, there guys think, linda? i mean, there should laws about this kind of thing . i mean, can't even get thing. i mean, can't even get through new year. this is literally. well, i can't resist bit of chocolate whatever shape it comes in, i'm up for it. i just think should just have permanent little easter eggs because it's going to because that's how it's going to be. just going run the be. it's just going to run the year it's get gets earlier and earlier and i it spoils it earlier and i guess it spoils it a little bit. it's quite exciting comes exciting when new thing comes out have a christmas

out and you have a christmas assorted easter season. yeah and so it kind of dilutes it a bit being year round. but being all year round. but i think the way we're think that's the way we're heading. you're just going to be drip fed limbo. you just happy that you guys in that has been around you guys in lovely as valentine's day been cancelled normally after christmas it's all the valentine's chocolates before they put out the easter egg. i mean, i understand it's all aboutin mean, i understand it's all about in a way, it's business and that's okay. so we've had christmas then you've got the new year sales. i my next up it's like let's hammer valentine's day fabulous and then we'll do easter. yeah so what's happening on the show straight on boxing day say it's been cancelled . i know really . i been cancelled. i know really. i love that also becomes a little bit over commercial i'll tell you they all do clip benjamin it's on commercialisation definitely. it's as soon as christmas is over it's right now. what's the next thing, the next big thing to generate the money yeah you know christmas starts in the 25th it's nice to go out you know got the

go out you know i got the epiphany on six january and it goes the up to goes all the way up to candlemas, on how candlemas, depending on how religious february. religious you are in february. but seems christmas is but it seems christmas is december or after halloween. yeah 25th. then yeah up to the 25th. then suddenly easter or valentine's day, it's all gotten sort of out of whack and it's definitely by the market. money. money the market. yeah, money. money well, about greatest well, let's talk about greatest britons. and i was going to say is it see what you say, jackass orjackass? is it see what you say, jackass or jackass? all jack all sounds so british chuckles, darling. lovely anyway, let's talk about great britain's to with hillary who this we're trying to predict we normally do of who's been the greatest britain greatest jackass of the week but this will be predicting who we think by of next year when we're by end of next year when we're sitting again would sitting chatting again who would have greatest britain have been the greatest britain in well, i don't in your opinion? well, i don't know the greatest know if he'd been the greatest britain, but i've chosen somebody who doesn't get a hell of fanfare is of a lot of fanfare and is somebody we should to somebody that we should to particularly business. so we have so many villains , you know, have so many villains, you know, that we, you know, philip green or whatever and this is julian richer the founded richer richer who's the founded richer sounds from the

sounds and he apart from the that richer sounds than i think 15% of all their profits to charity . he sets up loads of charity. he sets up loads of different organisations and charities and business initiatives in the aim of trying make society a fairer place and a more equal place. and he's just he's just not that a new one, which i think is going to be quite big next year called the fairness foundation, which is researching, you know, how to make society fairer for everybody it. and i just everybody in it. and i just think, you know, he he deserves a bit of praise for that. so like bit of feel good. thank like a bit of feel good. thank you, a bit you, benjamin mine is a bit controversial . and this is i've controversial. and this is i've got a very well or very bad bill for boris johnson having if he comes back, that'll be huge. that hilariously stages this huge comeback. you know, rishi crashes and burns . you know, you crashes and burns. you know, you get boris stormzy on to win another election. you've got that could go the other way. could be terrible. so this is i've invigorated really well the year be back. i told you year i'll be back. i told you so. or just quietly forget that

iever so. or just quietly forget that i ever said it to really like i'm the leader. i predict nigel farage is going to be a bit of a hero this year. he tends to always step when the country faces labour or conserve to have parties who are just not fit for office where the is rejecting both of them . he has saved this both of them. he has saved this country from ever evolving power gobbung country from ever evolving power gobbling projects like the eu. he saved in this country our sovereignty . he he saved in this country our sovereignty. he is he saved in this country our sovereignty . he is the he saved in this country our sovereignty. he is the man that's made the most political change. this one in my lifetime and i have a feeling his sense of duty to this country is so huge. it's so much more important than a lot of things in his life are, you know, material to all of us. he's just puts this country and its people first every single time. and we do hit a point in this year where rishi and the conservatives just constantly keep us down and labour keep letting us down and labour just before him worse under them anyway i think he could come in, sweep in and save again. well,

let's say right , jackass, let's let's say right, jackass, let's do it then hillary. let's say right, jackass, let's do it then hillary . well, going do it then hillary. well, going back to talk about very shortly ago prince harry, i think that his is about to come out isn't it. and i thought, i have no idea what he's going to say. got pretty well i've got a pretty goodidea pretty well i've got a pretty good idea what is going to say. actually i don't know what more he can say that he has already said, but i think he's really, you know, going to do you know, not going to do hisself year. okay hisself any this year. okay benjamin , i've come forjeremy benjamin, i've come for jeremy hunt, who the de facto prime minister you know, bringing in this about, are we going to stop these people coming from china unless they've got tests, all the rest of it? well, that's just the door back into just opening the door back into that cove nightmare we had for two three years. and i think, two or three years. and i think, you a zero—covid you know, was a zero—covid fanatic was talking. was on a fanatic was talking. he was on a podcast talking about sister podcast talking about his sister living china saying how they living in china saying how they welded the shut . he wasn't welded the door shut. he wasn't saying it like a thing saying it like a bad thing that's inspiring that they that's so inspiring that they welded door shut. i wish we welded the door shut. i wish we

could do that here. now you start coming back and start to hate coming back and think, hunt for me. think, you know, hunt for me. let's briefly. but in let's talk briefly. but in brief, very brief. it's very unked brief, very brief. it's very linked to my first one. it's actually the conservative of the jackal says not a great ampersand, that somehow really ampersand, that somehow i really respect. but as a parliamentary party, whole, i think they've party, as whole, i think they've just everything just squandered everything that we've turned their we've given them, turned their backs voters. i can't backs on their voters. i can't see make it up to see how they can make it up to us the next year or so, just us in the next year or so, just can't it. and think they can't see it. and i think they have the biggest jackass that have be the biggest jackass that i come in politics. i come across in politics. they've squandered the big gift we gave, i it's going we gave, and i think it's going to better. okay. thank to get any better. okay. thank thing coming out on new year's day . it's been thing coming out on new year's day. it's been very entertaining you so much, hilary. thank you, linda. thank you very much. and obviously, benjamin, which guys are year. and let's are lovely new year. and let's come in a year's time right come back in a year's time right or with you, you may not or wrong with you, you may not be a month in is to be back tomorrow. yes, the big man will here. thanks very much indeed for you a very for tonight. i wish you a very new year headliners coming up next, looking ahead to tomorrow's weather and, the uk

will have a cold and frosty start for many on monday morning , cloudier in the south. so after very cold start, temperatures will rise across scotland on monday morning under mostly clear skies . however, we mostly clear skies. however, we do have a few showers on the way. these will be mostly across the western isles. it'll be a bright and cold and frosty start for many northern ireland, but with some isolated mist and fog patches in places as well. a few showers will continue to affect parts of northwest england, but be some decent sunny spells , be some decent sunny spells, particularly the further east you go . a rural frost is you go. a rural frost is possible in across wales, but for it's a bright start to bank houday for it's a bright start to bank holiday monday cloudier across far north, perhaps with an isolated coastal shower or to meanwhile looking at the east midlands , it's a fine but chilly midlands, it's a fine but chilly start today with mostly clear skies . the region temperatures skies. the region temperatures down a little bit, but they could just rise into double figures. light winds and clear skies greets many across east anglia on bank holiday monday. however will be a little more in

the way of cloud across the far south cloudier across southern first thing with further outbreaks of light and patchy rain. but this clear in places dunng rain. but this clear in places during the morning feeling chilly . the rain and cloud chilly. the rain and cloud across the south will clear with most places enjoying a dry and bright day feeling cold in places. that's how the weather shaping up during tomorrow morning morning .

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