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♪ ♪. trey: good evening and thank you for joining as i am trey gowdy, it's "sunday night in america", here we go former president donald trump versus president joe biden will go under grover cleveland have company in the history books or will joe biden overcome historically low poll numbers there are blinking caution lights for both candidates while the american people settled in for what looks like the longest general election in history. the general election started in earnest in the state of the union and the talk of unity in his inaugural address years ago is gone this was talk about contrasted not reconciliation. >> my predecessor, former republican president tells put putin, do whatever the hell you want, my predecessor, he's the reason is overturned. my predecessor, many in this chamber want to take the

prescription drug away by repealing affordable care act. i won't let that happen. my predecessor is watching. instead of pitting politics and pressuring members of congress to block the bill, joining and telling the congress to pass it. trey: joining is now fox news contributor charlie hurt and marie hearts, welcome. there was a policy aspect and a performance aspect. did he move voters on his own policy part and did he assuage concerns about his mental acuity with independence or other voters. >> i think he dated a lot about a hundred democrats were nervous they wouldn't admit it publicly but they were nervous up to the speech he was on fire he was fired up and in the details of

policy and going back and forth and engaging with republicans there were a lot of people that thought joe biden would be sleepy and not be engaged to make a lot of mistakes, he did the opposite he gave a fiery speech he was engaged in the details and nobody democrats after the speech feel very good about the contrast. do voters think is too old, of course they do what they saw him in the speech be engaged in energetic and paid a real contrast with his opponent who also is not in control of the facts when he speaks so democrats feel really good sitting here today about the policy in the optics both of which matter as you no. trey: now we have that handsome brother charlie unity more than any times when he was sworn in that he hadn't heard much about it, former president trump has spoken a lot recently about unity within his party.

>> it was the most caustic partisan victory all at state of the union that i've ever witnessed i've covered over 20 in my career covering politics and i've never seen anything like it i think marie is right he came out swinging i don't know what they gave him 40 came out whatever it was i would like a shot of it myself but it was over-the-top he was squinting, he was angry, he was vicious and i'm sure a lot of partisan democrats who don't care about the issues and don't care about the american people were thrilled with the performance i saw partisan fighter and a street fighter and the republican should be warned this is the guy they're going to get a nasty fighter who is willing to say anything in order to win.

it's instructive for republicans to realize the problem he's talking about things like ukraine, he's talking about all of the things that nobody in america cares about he hardly talked about or lied about issues about illegal immigration because of his policies is leading to the death and rape of americans. he did not talk about in any real way the economy or housing cost and all of these things that his policy made worse for people. that is contrast, donald trump will win this thing because donald trump will win on those issues. trey: there were national calls for aftermath of matthew shepard, george floyd, trey vaughn martin, tyre nichols the president made reference to laken riley but does he need to

do more through executive action or some other means that doesn't require congress, he seemed like is underwater on the issue and i think the murder of laken riley is going to be an issue dropped the selection. >> immigration is an issue. in the last fox news poll more americans blame congress for the lack of action at the board of enabling joe biden but democrats in the white house need to take this issue seriously he made a case in the state of the union that he put on the table the toughest border build any democrat would agree to republicans were begging for this bill he agreed to it and for political reasons to help donald trump republicans in congress walked away that's what he needs to say over and over again that's the way to bring down wait times to expel people from the country and get more judges to adjudicate that's the case they need to keep making

but i think they should consider executive action these are horrifying stories and tug at the heartstrings of voters which really matter and voters care about immigration but he also talked about women's health in the academy and housing cost and a lot of issues that voters really care about them republican sat there you sat there during the speeches they sat there and looked like they were a serious party yelling, jeering, screaming not coming forward with policy proposals of their own even the rebuttal. trey: i slept a lot in that chamber i'm not sure how much i slept and listen. before i let you go does former president trump need nikki haley voters and if he needs them how does he get them i will let you take us out without one. >> sure he does in the way he will get them is talking about

the issues that joe biden has ignored or screwed up, the tough bill that marie mentions isabel put forward by house republicans and all the bill was was a policies that donald trump had in place the trump border wall that solve the crisis at the border that joe biden used executive action to create the open border in the crisis that we have in the reasons republicans did not go along with it because democrats refused acceptable and instead insisted they would only accept it if it included billions of dollars for ukraine and the war in gaza. trey: god bless you for joining us which will be the longest general election in the history of mankind. we will see you both soon. what is it take the profit what

is it profit a person to gain the world and lose their soul were politically what is it profit a person to become president if you spend the next four years fighting congress the most round the presidential primary but there are interesting house and senate races if you want to fundamentally change the country you need a mandate. if you need a mandate you want the white house a house in the senate. the gop would not have the majority of the house if it were not for new york and california which are hardly conservative bastions what if anything did we miss while we were focusing are super tuesday eyes on the big prize. radio political analyst joins us now. tell me what i'm missing from the gop perspective you must nominate candidates who can win in the fall but districts that are ruby red you will get a republican no matter what. the question whether a workhorse or a show horse what did you see looking at down ballot races.

>> you know how important it is to be a workhorse and went over some of the swing voters there are a lot of letters on the fence they don't like joe biden and his record with their worry about donald trump republicans and democrats are trying to appeal to the middle-of-the-road voters with the senate and the house you play this year i was paying close attention to california because you hit the nail on the head there about a secret republicans holding blue areas of the state of california down in los angeles where big swing district in orange county a lot of districts up north in the southern valley and republicans have a real chance to win and hold the majority in the house and blew districts but they need to have an appealing message abroad message that doesn't appeal to the base but

it appeals to the middle-of-the-road voters. >> former president trump has reference party unity repeatedly in recent days, his victory speech is weak i thought was conciliatory texas republicans are fighting over the impeachment of ken paxton as senate candidate kari lake wrote this about nikki haley which are viewers will be able to see how does it help when general elections and what exactly is kari lake thinking, arizona is or was a pickup opportunity. why are you going out of your way to offend potential voters. >> and makes docent is a game of edition not subtraction in the name 2024 which is better equipped to hold their coalition together fighting is all kinds of problems with the democratic coalition in the basin young

voters and hispanic voters worry about his job performance and voters in the middle are not told about his record of the last three years but republicans have their own challenges trump is needing to win back the suburban moms the haley voters the moderates and independents that one about republican but have issued to trump's personality and push republicans away and kerry did a good job on his speech on super tuesday but you kari lake because you noted attacking nikki haley on the very nasty way under poly nevada people who might otherwise might want to vote republican in arizona and that's getting really interesting because kyrsten sinema who is an independent who announced her retirement a lot of independent voters, voters that i call the mccain republicans who want to

vote republican that is a fundamental instinct but there turned off by the brion of the insult politics and kari lake all too often is an example of bad example of those tendencies of the republican party politi politics. senator steve daines has done a good job of candidate recruitment, larry hogan cannot win in south carolina but tim scott cannot win in maryland, different books for different states when you survey the senate playing field, what you see? >> steve daines has done a tremendous job because is understood that you need a republican party to win back the senate and winnebago election. you have a lot of recruits all over the political map not reflect the state that they are running in. you mentioned montana, tim sheehy the businessman and military man and montana sam brown who has a compelling story ended nevada mike rogers from

your days in the house is a foreign policy expert in house intel committee chair. a very diverse and strong lineup of republican recruits who certainly could put i think republicans are favored to win back the senate given the caliber of candidates. trey: josh, i always enjoyed listening to your perspective and have anyone. i look forward to having you on real soon. >> thank you. trey: got next the supreme court did the impossible they agreed with one another. as the harmony short-lived? fox news legal correspondent shannon bream joins us after the break on "sunday night in america". ♪

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trey: welcome back to "sunday night in america". if only you believe in miracles so what i that was a lyric from a jefferson starship song and we saw something of a miracle this because the supreme court was unanimous and including colorado could not kick donald trump off the ballot. the result was 9 - 0 but was it a mirage, if you read the opinions plural, you will see the visions and jobs the high courts back to the high state with a colorado balaban the court said an issue from the state back to congress which sounds like a loss to cool exam question deny no doubt skip class that day but i will guarantee you shannon bream did not she is the host of "fox news sunday" and the chief legal correspondent. welcome, tell us what is going

on the scoreboard says 9 - 0 but there was bickering in the locker room, what should we take from that. >> that's a great way to put it, bottom line, the opinion we all agree colorado does not have the right under the 14th amendment section three insurrection clause to kick a candidate off of the ballot that is what the e united. one of the concurrence with sotomayor, kagan and jackson that felt like red was the concurrence they agreed with the end result but they did not like the courts expanded reasoning that i got into questions about telling congress what the rule could be or should be in solving the problem they said basically what the court is about is narrowly as possible sticking to answering a question with these three accuse the rest of the court going farther and saying you should not of done all of this and got to the extraneous things those are questions for

another day and just the spirit basically said i agree with the bottom line we do not need to have bickering here publicly let's take the temperature down, so clearly some divisions. >> i don't want to shock you but some democrats like my former colleague the law professor jamie raskin have promised to introduce bills to disqualify not only donald trump but also other republicans so i want to assume you and i are teaching a law school class together and i go to you and i say professor here is our exam question, trump wins the presidency, the democrats win the house in the senate. they are in office before he's inaugurated so biden is still the president in they moved to disqualify him. i know what would happen you would say were not can ask that question because it's crazy and will pick another one. but the court seems tired of being involved in the political issues is that the sense that

you get, they don't want to be there. >> a five the professor people want their money back. a question like that would make them all crazy but yes we have the feeling the court does not want to get dragged into political conversation. bush gore is their worst nightmare data one of a collector stepping in any way being political and putting away on the scale but you know they have so many things this term directly related to president trump they could have great bearing on his campaign and the election but they're dealing with hot button issues like a couple of abortion and gun cases, those decisions are likely due at the end of june early july before the first of the two conventions and in the middle of the election. as much as they would like to avoid getting dragged into things like this and that's what you outlined with the democrat controlled house and senate seated before the potential inauguration of president trump that is a nightmare they would not want to get dragged into what we know nothing should surprise us anymore and we have

to be prepared for any scenario these days. trey: you and i are a couple of nerds we listen to oral argument, i don't know why but i listen to it so i have a very different feeling listening to the colorado ban case then i did the presidential immunity case, i got a different vibe on the d.c. court of appeals. it is now before the high court from a timing standpoint, what should we expect and what is your sense of how that's going to go. >> as much as president trump love the justices earlier this week in the 19 mag 0 decision i'm not sure he'll feel the same way in june the immunity case is much tougher and everybody across the legal spectrum believes a heavy lift for the trump legal team to win on this question of where immunity stops and starts for former president

about actions that he takes related to his official actions in court the win for the trump team is the timing because they're good to hear arguments april 25, probably the end of the term, that could come sooner but due no later the first of july, the trial court has been on pause the jack smith that was supposed to start this week has been on pause until the supreme court makes a decision, only then is it on paused and did you know all the pretrial motions, discovery, all of those things will go back to being an interest active and happening. that means you get to september or october before you can get to the trial and will the d.o.j. want the appearance of a special prosecutor bringing a trial against the primary candidate for the presidency at a time they should have debates in some states early voting at that point. trey: one of my favorite lawyers in the world one of the very few lawyers i like including myself,

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♪. trey: welcome back to "sunday night in america" denver has run out of space and money for migrants, the mile high city is shutting down for public shelters the city solution is to ask property rotors to write to migrants. there would be a cap on rent with nonprofits footing the difference. the denver mayor blames republicans. joining us from the common sense institute is a director of policy and research dj summers, thank you for being here. my first question and forgive my ignorance but if you're migrant and you don't have a job or auto insurance or healthcare or even transportation how will you be able to afford any rent

subsidized or otherwise. >> that's a great question. we have not dove into the particulars of how exactly it is that migrants are arriving in denver are able to secure legal employment in what we do know for a fact and we as a common sense institute are about the facts and the numbers in this situation is costing the city of denver and its institutions dearly. >> let me ask you one other thing. i will rely on my own background. who is going to do criminal history checks or background checks and make sure the person doesn't have a criminal history or ties to gangs or here for nefarious reasons. i don't know how you do a credit search or criminal history search on someone who's come from another country. >> this is one of the issues with the migrants arrive here

it's the resources that we have in denver could be the colorado bureau of investigation or the denver police force that does that. it could be any number of state or local legal institutions that do that. one way or another is going to cost them the payrolls that may have been stretched. it's unclear how the portions of this operation are going to be attempted. trey: you also have education so you may have children coming from countries where the teachers don't currently know the language there is a legal obligation that the kids can go to school and it doesn't do any good to speak them to a in englh if they don't understand. speaking of cost, elementary school, third grade teachers who speak certain languages i would think would be a challenge. before i let you go i am not good on geography you have to help me. i don't think colorado has a border with mexico or canada. i know south carolina does not.

for the border to be the top issue for so many voters, something else is going on. it's like the border is a metaphor or an example of something else that is perceived to be broken in this country, how do you see it. >> i think there is a lot of pent-up resentment, denver is one of the most expensive places to live in the country outside of any coastal megacities when you have people that are coming and stretching more of the tax resources that are coming. you're really putting a drain on where the tax dollars formerly have gone and when you offer them new programs or offer them new rent caps or offering them services that these people in denver who have really been here are not getting it's a little bit of resentment that will breathe because of it. trey: are these migrants coming to colorado with the consent at

the invitation of the colorado state government or are they being sent by the federal government. how does denver or colorado find yourself in this situation? >> it's very difficult to track where exactly the migrants come from and how they get here. we do know god or abbott has taken responsibility for shipping somewhere around 16000 of them but we do have new reports coming from local media that say more of them have come simply through word-of-mouth that it got back to el paso nonprofit facilities that denver was a welcoming place to be in a good place to be there were ample jobs, ready access to city services, shelter space, food, what have you. it is a mixture of the migrants coming hear from governor abbott or from their own need for

security and safety. trey: denver is beautiful but wait until they find about telluride there's a lot of beautiful places in colorado i can't afford the rent there i don't how anybody else can. thank you so much for joining us on a sunday night with a forward to having you back again soon. you want to be able to visit, live and work in the district of columbia without literally risking your life what is going on in the nation's capital. d.c. homicide detective and fox news contributor ted williams right after the break only on "sunday night in america".

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trey: welcome back to "sunday night in america". the nation's capital belongs to all of us but it looks like the wild west, violent crime is out of control and no one is immune, members of congress have been victimized for members of congress are lucky they work behind metal detect detector sud by police what about the rest of d.c. if you wanted to convince or take your children or

grandchildren, what about young children that dream of working is solving internship in the center of the world even the most liberal city council on earth finally decided it was enough. the d.c. council approved legislation combating the crime crisis increasing penalties for gun violence, and creating a new felony for organized retail theft, what a change from the d fund the police days or the days of reimagining crime and replacing cops was psychologist, the d.c. council voted to/millions of police funding and they were wrong and we knew it all along. i guess the question how many people were victimized before they figured out soft on crime is really hard on victims. ted williams is the d.c. homicide detective in a fox news contributor and he joins us now and i usually call them mr. williams and my mom's going to be mad for calling him ted

but he wants me to call him ted. we could've saved them of a lot of time and trouble we warned their approach was not going to work i wonder how the people were victimized before they figured it out. >> that's a very interesting question. i tell you they would not of figured out before the angry citizens in the district of columbia and business leaders said do something about this crime we are going to leave the city. as a matter of fact a professional basketball team the wizards are trying to move to virginia and are trying to get the commanders of football team to come back to washington and they may be out of luck there because of the crime situation. think about it 900 car jackie over 900 that means every time you got in your car yet the look in your shoulder. as a result of that the mayor

the light has come on in d.c. and they inducted a new crime the secure d.c. crime bill and i am hoping it will help they need to hire more police officers in the city but they are doing something. >> it's not just the district there are other liberal jurisdictions that are figuring out that there are bad people in the world that want to hurt you, san francisco seems to be figuring it out, new york seems to be figuring it out or putting more cops on the subway. it makes me wonder do we go in cycles where we try to be soft on crime for a decade and figure out that doesn't work. why do we have to keep repeating the cycle. >> it's all unfortunately about politics and what do i mean by

that, when these politicians in office when they are up for reelection. all of a sudden light start coming on if you look at the london breeden san francisco, san francisco has been a pillar of crime for some time under her administration. now all of a sudden she wants to switch far from the left and move to the right and she is doing that because she's up for reelection in a great deal of competition and at the same time the citizens are angry. again there angry all over this country. you talked about mayor adams in new york in the subway where the national guard is patrolling the subways there to try to keep citizens safe. citizens are angry all over this country about the fact that you have a lot of the jurisdictions that are doing little or nothing

about crime. trey: you mentioned the politicians. i will guarantee you when you were a homicide investigator and detective that you never once asked the victim or victims family members about politics. i certainly never did as a prosecutor. i would think people no matter their political ideology they want to be safe they don't want to hear gunshots they want their property values to go up. how do we get politicians to quit using crime as a divisive tool for people who want to be safe. >> that's an excellent question and i think the citizens, law-abiding citizens just want to feel safe in their communities. as a result the good have to keep an eye on the politicians and see that they're doing things in a consistent manner or when it comes to crimes in the

neighborhoods and the thugs that are taking over unit in the district of columbia where you have the teenagers and all of the guns that are on the street and as a result of the crime has gone up. last year homicides were up in the district of columbia after a 25 year low. it's very troubling but i think that citizens are taking a look and they can be very beneficial and helpful to get crime to go down. trey: ted williams you been beneficial and helpful to us this is not either one of us a political issue it is just been carjacked or hijacked by politicians. thank you for joining us on a sunday night we look forward to having you real soon be back my pleasure. trey: coming up too much screen time is bad for our children but don't take my word for

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happy or dazed but not happy days. on a school night you can forget about watching television. the world is different now some parents haven't seen their children's eyes and ears all they see are the tops of their heads as young people stare at the screen, the screen is different now as phone or another device but the result is not. a new study from pediatrics shows early development is impacted by screen time, children two and under spend 42 minutes a day watching screens and that is hindering communication to motor skills and social skills and attention span and speech that robs young people human interaction kids miss hearing 1000 words spoken per day by an adult. pediatricians say keep children from screens until they're 18 months old and then only for educational purposes. doctor kevin gilleland is a psychologist and he has thoughts on this. welcome, what do you think is this the weekly warning about

social media or is there something really going on here. >> first of all i think your parents were making good decisions limiting your television that is first. second this is a really important study from birth to three years old is a critical time. for the acquisition of words. what you need is a language rich environment not just from the parent or the child but also the interactive part, that forms the building blocks of language and is predictive of social development, emotional development, iq brain health. words are vitamins for the developing brain. it is critical of what the study found one of the things interfering is technology and screens and the more screen time the last parent child interaction time.

>> my wife read to our children nightly and i'm sure your wife did both of our wives were teachers but what else can families do with all the device distractions to do what you just said in use words with one another. >> not everybody can get professional help like you and i did that have spouses that are teachers. i have a 2-year-old i have a grandson and i love that tiny human but when i come home from work it takes effort to be pops. and what the researchers and research did, were not saying 0 technology and programs were saying be thoughtful and in fact there's good studies of watching programs with your child and adding to what's being discussed is very beneficial. even independent viewing with good educational programming that is fine as well but make sure we're reading, talking, making animal sounds back and

forth, that all helps to add to the words in the parent child dynamic. trey: we are overwhelmed with studies about one a week and it's hard for those of us that don't have phd's to separate the noise from what is real. on this issue on social media particularly with respect to children and their development what caught your attention the most and what should we be the most focused on. >> it's really convicting because when you're tired and the study pointed out. let's not talk about the challenges of life both parents working in developing and pouring into your child. it's not easy to fit that in but be mindful are you handing the screen or an ipad or a tv program are you asking it to do

something for you like to big of a break. it's okay to utilize but do it thoughtfully and that's the biggest take away. technology for us as individuals and children is something were still learning to manage in this study is another convicting don't ask it to do too much and i like it about the study. trey: doctor kevin gilleland i knew you when you were 17 years old and the fact that you are a grandfather now i don't know if the word is alarming or happy, i don't know the right word, life moves fast, thank you for joining us on a sunday night and loaning us your expertise in a way that we can digest it. >> good to be with you counsel counselor. trey: a couple of things before we go, the president used to

submit the state of the union in writing no speech or televised address, no drama on tv and it changed much about our culture would you prefer to read the speech in your own home or watch it at a british soccer match. i want you to let me know your preference. i was on tv this week and made it innocuous joke about someone i've known for 30 years it was a joke i've made a million times usually in front of the person. i say i'm as nervous as lindsey graham and the spelling bee in the woodlot starter at that joke that he does but the media, some of them have little sense of humor. the headline that i dissed him. it's actually called the joke. i wish the. media had a sense of humor or invested a phone call before embarrassing themselves with the story. some reporters don't know the difference between a joke and it did. maybe if they had more friends they would. whatever most loyal viewers passed away this week bert mccarthy, roberta mccarthy

mother of kevin mccarthy others called him congressman or speaker majority or minority leader but to her it was son. she wrote every sunday night after the show and told me what i got right and what i got wrong and i loved every second of it and i will miss it and i will miss her but she is free of pain and reunited with her husband and others that went before her. rest in peace mrs. roberto mccarthy. thank you for spending part of your sunday with us. we hope you have a great week ahead, you can find us online at gowdy america or a entrée gaudi podcast. good night from south carolina. i am jon scott, thank you for joining us. we will see you next week, good night.