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>> they call it super tuesday for a reason. this is a big one. [cheers] >> and they tell me he, the pundits and otherwise, that there has never been one like this. there has been anything so conclusive. this was an amazing -- an amazing night. we're going to take back our country. we are going to do it right. we are going to have the greatest economy ever in the history of our country. we're going to top what we did. >> ainsley: president trump making huge gains this super tuesday winning 14 out of the 15 states including delegate-rich california and texas. his rival nikki haley winning vermont. >> steve: president biden on the other side solidified his path to the nomination but there are some more warning signs, especially in minnesota, where nearly 20% of biden's voters

selected uncommitted. oops? >> lawrence: we have live team coverage from washington to california. but we begin with brian at the touch screen to break down some of the results. >> brian: first off, i'm not in control of the touch screen, i'm depending on our great staff to help us out. you might have notified off yesterday because you might have a morning show to do and have to get up early. look at the results that came in after you went to bed. this is not a surprise. alabama comes in strong. the messaging is better for nikki haley whether it comes to pro-choice, pro-life. but it didn't seem to matter in case. alaska, we heard about if you get over 50% winner take all. it's way over 50% despite senator murkowski going for nikki haley. as did you go into arkansas, really no doubt about it, 76 to 18%. sarah huckabee sanders considered a frontrunner to be a vice president running mate for donald trump. >> take a look at what california means. enclaves in hunting beach, they

found in orange county. and central california. 78% over a million people showed up to vote for donald trump. there is no gains there. you would think maybe could flip a little bit and have their voices heard. this i find the most interesting. colorado, up to 48 hours before election day where 24 was told donald trump doesn't really belong on the ballot according to their attorney general when donald trump officially was allowed to be on the ballot, thanks to the supreme court, the people responded at least over a half million did. in maine, susan collins says i'm going for nikki haley, but the people of maine, the republicans in maine said i'm going with donald trump. and when you talk about mass mass for a while, nikki haley was leading early and i thought this could be a message state, perhaps. not really. 60 to 36%. that's where it goes. in minnesota, this is something donald trump should keep an eye on that earlier screen that we saw in the opening animation that showed uncommitted. great deal of uncommitted in minnesota. donald trump feels as though he could have won minnesota in 2016. does he feel he could get it now

with so many uncommitted leading the camp of joe biden we will see how that goes. in north carolina, this is a state that donald trump barely won in 2020. won in 2016. obama won it the second time. let's see how he does in the general election. and then finally in oklahoma, not finally but 81 to 15. no doubt about it. as we move ahead and talk about tennessee. tennessee at 80% to 20. the people of nashville don't speak up. they tend to be a little bit more liberal. move forward over to utah. this was a late decider. just when we walked in the door today. they are not big fans of president trump. although very conservative state. have never quite been. virginia, there was some thoughts that this is the place -- that was vermont. excuse me. vermont she wins. congratulations here. she was extremely happy put out a tweet. when it comes to virginia. a lot of people thought this is a message state for nikki haley. if she was going to go back on the respirator for her campaign, this is where she would do it. upset didn't happen.

995 to 89. you need over 1200 to do it. donald trump could be doing this next week. so, that is a quick look at what happened last night. what happens left to do is probably nikki haley announcement because she has no events on the schedule if she actually wanted to compete in georgia, wouldn't you think that she would have made an announcement last night or at least had a post game party. let's go out to kevin corke on the likely rematch between this guy named donald j. trump and president biden come november. getting word or joe biden's tragedy already. >> kevin: yeah. it's going to be an interesting one and good morning to all of you. now, let me just say it this way. last night former president trump was trying to sort of use his al green, you know, the great musician. he was basically saying, listen, let's all stay together. we have to come together to close ranks if if we are going to beat president biden in november. but first things first, he had to dispatch, as you aptly pointed out his former u.n. ambassador nikki haley. and, of course, after last night, it is clear the former

president continues to crews like the florida georgia line as for his opponent she had this to say or her campaign did, quote: we're honored to have received the support of millions of americans across the country today including in vermont where nikki became the first republican woman to win two presidential primary contests. unity is not achieved by simply claiming we're united. a little shade there as for president biden, well, he almost managed a clean sweep on super tuesday except for a loss in american samoa, who knew? there is more. because crowds could be crewing. minnesota he lost a fifth of the voters to uncommitted. large muslim population in a state by the way. similar story playing thought north carolina. now, the tar heels state has a massive college student population. the whole gaza thing also giving the democrats fits. it is going to be very interesting b.k. to see how things go.

we will keep an eye on it. but for now back to you. >> lawrence: thanks, kevin. >> brian: we got some news. >> steve: we do. last night the nikki haley campaign put out rather defiant statement. they said unity is not achieved by simply claiming we're united. today in state after state, there remains a large block of republican primary voters who are expressing deep concerns about donald j. trump. that is not the unity our party needs for success. you look at the numbers though, she was trounced significantly. she won one state, actually, became historic first republican woman to ever win a primary. but, it sounds like at 10:00 this morning got the notice from team haley going to make comments in charleston. according to the "wall street journal" they say she is going to suspend operations. >> ainsley: she ran a great race. trump significantly wins but she still got lot of money -- i mean a lot of votes in each state. i think what i'm hearing in

south carolina. tthe state that does love her we want trump. it's not her time right now. the question is could they mend their relationship? if she does suspend, could they mend their relationship? we ask her to be v.p. so he gets those votes? >> lawrence: i think the olive branch starts with the concession, calling the candidate to say hey, mr. president, you have won this race. that's where the repair. brian went through the graph of all the states. interesting thing when you are focusing not only nikki haley but all the people challenged donald trump. you had governors that endorsed some of these candidates, popular senators within their individual state but the voters still supported donald trump. i think the reality and the message for the republican party is you don't get to establishment, consultants and politicians get to decide the candidate, the voters do. if you want to stick with the voters and prioritize the party, as well as the country. you got to go with what your voters want. i think that's the message that nikki haley has to reflect when

she gets this conference. i may disagree with donald trump. i have had my criticism. but the voters have decided. >> brian: just as i finished the last board is when the news came out that -- i'm not sure if it was linked to my presentation. this was the headlines, happened moments ago. the "wall street journal" reporting what has been reported from the camp a speech at 10:00. make an announcement at 10:00. already know there were no events planned last night. we know there are no events planned to go forward to compete in georgia and the other states that donald trump would get his delegates and salt away the victory officially. she is coming out today. this is some of the intriguing moments does she do what ron desantis did. he came out and surprised everybody and said before new hampshire i'm out. i'm endorsing donald trump. wow! donald trump's camp was caught by surprise by that they thought there might have been a call or interaction. there hasn't been interaction since. now, when vivek ramaswamy drops out, tim scott drops out he says not only am i out, where are you

going to be today? i would like to join you on stage. ron desantis says i have a job to do. i'm going back to florida. they maybe i will see you at the convention. will nikki haley say donald trump won and if anything needs my party to win i'm in. donald trump won. i enjoyed the race i'm going to reattach with my family and i'm worried about my husband over in africa. those are some of the intriguing things. >> ainsley: whether or not drops out. everyone was suspicious of this. i will at least stay until super tuesday and didn't schedule any other events after that. then they released a statement last night just saying we were watching with all of our staffers as the results were come in. we're watching from the charleston area. they call themselves happy warriors the staffers. they say the mood is jubilant. she has a house can i what you island charleston. wanted to be home. reflect everything line have to

walk hire criticism of it donald trump. now she has to pick up that difference and the census say why donald trump is better for the country vs. joe biden. and it may take some time, some healing. but, again, this is the fastest that we're getting to the general election. >> brian: have an answer for you. in her statement after winning vermont, you go down a couple of sentences unity is not achieved by simply claiming we are united. today in state after state there remains a large block of republican primary voters who are expressing deep concerns about donald trump. it's hard to walk that back a couple hours later. >> ainsley: what happened? i feel like in the beginning, steve, she was saying i'm not anti-trump. i worked for him. but then i feel like over time is that just because it's a blood sport and they have just taken jabs at one another? >> steve: absolutely. the jabs have continued. she was talking about unity and whether or not she was going to do whatever she could and today

we will find out when she speaks from south carolina. when the former president refers to her as bird brain. >> ainsley: doesn't go over well with women. >> steve: here's the interesting thing. when you look at the path she -- we presume she thought she had, is there is within the republican party appear tri trump faction. when you look at the exit polling from yesterday, haley's voters said they were voting against trump more than they were voting for her. so she was essentially the vessel. we're going to vote against trump by voting for her. >> brian: where is that? >> steve: this is in the "new york times" this morning. it's a sign of anti-trump motivation that could last until november. when you look also at the exit polling, nikki was among moderate voters 2-1. the problem is moderates only make up about 20% of the republicans. also you, one in four republican voters in north carolina said

that they would feel dissatisfied if trump won the nomination. so, ultimately, she is the beneficiary of big anti-trump movement within the republican party. >> lawrence: the question is does that change whether this becomes a binary choice. >> ainsley: what are you hearing in the diners? if she is not the nominee we are still republicans. >> lawrence: only people i saw that said they were still going to go the other way with the democrats, and we interviewed them in the diners as well. the democrats and the independents that were trying to change the outcome in the primary for the republicans. i will say this: there was a change in tremendously whether this came to nikki haley. before it was just criticizing donald trump on some different foreign pole thing. she said she wanted his tone to change. when ron desantis got out of the race there was a change in strategy. you know, steve talks about the bird brain comment and some

republican voters do not like the name-calling. but then she started to question his mental acuity. comparing him to joe biden and republican voters didn't like that as well, brian. >> brian: her numbers went down but in contention for vermont and takes vermont but not going to be enough. ben domenech joins us now. >> ben: great to be with you. this news just broke. >> ben: just broke. >> brian: i wonder if you would start with your father-in-law. the bitterness you weren't married to your wife then, but the bitterness after george w. bush and john mccain after that primary, it was so hard for them to get back together because feelings were so raw. can they learn something from having eventually having got back together? >> ben: i think there are some things to learn about this. i also think this was an absolutely dominant performance. there were some ways that this could have broken differently and you might have had a different conversation today. you know, the possibility, you know, of her taking virginia, for instance, which was

something that a lot of people thought was viable. turns out not to be true at all. the swamp couldn't deliver for her there the bureaucrats that really run northern virginia were not enough. one of the things we have to keep in mind about this, the level of dominance that donald trump has shown over the party is clearly plays to advantage. i think if i'm the democrats at this point, i have to be evaluating can i get any of those haley voters to come over to my side? and i'm not sure that there is a real path for them to do that at this moment without a major adjustment in the way that the white house is behaving, without them prioritizing a lot of different things. and i think one of the things that's going to be key, particularly as we talk about the way that abortion played in the '22 cycle in ways that damaged republicans i think it's going to be key for you is burr ban women to have the kind of voice like that nikki haley out there for donald trump to bring them back in and to block the democrats. >> the "new york times" exit poll haley's voters said they

were voting against trump more than voting for her. to your point you wonder whether or not those people would go to trump or biden because these are republicans. so the question is, if they are motivated that way yesterday, do they vote at all in november? >> ben: i think that's a very good question. a lot of them are going to be essentially stay at home voters, hate both sides. we have seen that have a major role in past elections. where people just didn't show up in the way that they were expected to. look, i think that, again, this is a dominant performance from donald trump. he has got the party on his side. he is clearly, you know, established that there is no real aim for anybody to beat him and i don't think there ever really was. >> lawrence: i'm curious with some of that polling because we saw it i talked about some of these voters. a chunk of haley supporters they were democrats and if they were independents, they typically voted for democrats.

how much of the polling is skewed in that way of saying hey, i'm a republican voter. i'm voting in this primary. but i'm really a democrat and i was going to vote for joe biden anyway? >> ben: look, the level to which we see that independent vote is a big question. and i think that one of the things that we're going to see coming out of this is, you know, this is now going to be the longest general election campaign that we have seen really in terms of the fight between these two incumbent candidates, essentially. and the different issues -- the issues that could be very different six months from now compared to where it is, i think the border is still going to be an issue. crime, i think, is going to be a major issue. i think that the way that that plays with independent voters could end up being decisive. >> ainsley: that says a lot about these candidates, right? the voters have spoken, they really love donald trump or they want biden. because, you are right. >> ben: no one is making up their mind at this point. >> ainsley: what's your prediction for haley today? >> ben: she is going to drop out. >> brian: who does she endorse?

>> ben: does she endorse immediately? i'm not sure she may be a hold-back person remember ted cruz. >> lawrence: vote your conscience. >> ben: vote your conscience. >> ainsley: if she loses her home state. this is a different time and different election and people like her. >> ben: she has a popularity factor that does matter. she is younger than a lot of the candidates we are talking about. i think she could have a future in south carolina but nationally i really doubt it. >> brian: she should give herself more credit. when she would get votes, i'm saying not just voting against trump. they are voting for you. she is experienced. she is conservative. she is accountant. talking about being physically it responsible. i thought it was fascinating what is leaking from axios today about joe biden's strategy. effortly, what he said in the new yorker magazine, we will be the strategy. i'm not going to have a rose garden strategy when my surrogates speak to me and i talk about infrastructure. i'm going for donald trump's juggler. and he said this yesterday through his campaign.

donald trump limp into the general election as wounded, dangerous and unpopular, cash-strapped beleaguered by a host of external issues. trump is offering voters an anti freedom, anti-democracy, anti-american agenda that has cost maga republicans election a after election. they want to make him hitler. they want to make him -- they want to make a threat to democracy. that's what they will do. >> ben: obviously. that's what they have been doing from the get-go. it's what they are going to continue to do only way they though how to beat him. not going to be good enough. the factors you need to have more confidence on the part of the incumbent. you know, you can't run the kind of campaign with joe biden that he would need to run to beat this version of donald trump. >> lawrence: i just think that it's fascinating in the statement they say that donald trump limpsz when you have got a president of the united states that can't walk without tripping or they have had to lower the stairs because he has tripped on it so much. i want to go to this "wall street journal" report.

it's saying that nikki haley will not endorse donald trump. >> brian: not immediately. >> ben: again, i could definitely seeing her doing the ted cruz thing. having to be convinced. having to say look, if you want a future in the republican party, and she said no to no labels. no to getting out. then i think that could be a situation where she is in milwaukee and she gives a speech and at that point it might actually, you know, be something that is more beneficial to the trump campaign, depending on where things shake out. >> brian: are has some drama as she walks up the stage. >> ben: one other thing that i think we learned from last night's performance, obviously we were talking about on fox nation the veepstakes where the president goes -- where the former president goes,. >> brian: i like fox nation by the way. >> ben: thank you. we appreciate everybody who tuned. in three hours with jimmy failla on set is always a rock and roll night i think the lesson is donald trump is should not play it safe when it comes to the vp choice.

a lot of people in his ear going to be saying just play it safe. don't rock the boat. don't pick someone who is different -- do kind of the pence thing all over again. something like that. i don't think that's the lesson. >> brian: what is not safe? >> ben: i think making a riskier choice. >> brian: like? >> ben: you see her face rotating through right now. tulsi gabbard is going to be on this show a little later. i think that someone who is more interesting, that can bring in a strong sort of youth vote presence. you could see that really, i think, reach out into nontraditional republican pockets across the country in ways that could prove really interesting. particularly think, i mean, you mentioned john mccain. i think of a state like arizona. you want to lock down a state like arizona. i think that someone who is a veteran, who is interesting, who maybe pulls away people who might -- r.f.k. is on the ballot there. they might come to him over biden. if you have got someone who really, i think, excites people, that's going to be something that is really critical.

>> lawrence: needs to make the move immediately. >> ben: no. >> lawrence: or waits closer to the convention. >> steve: make it exciting. >> ben: make it exciting. he can run the apprentice as long as he want. look, i'm just saying i don't think that the safe choice this time around is the way. i think people want new. >> brian: remember what john mccain did took a huge risk and paid the price. >> ben: paid the price. only point in that election where he was actually ahead for a sustained amount of time. >> brian: on the program and tracking the jet that sarah palin was on going to that event. >> ben: i remember. >> steve: let me ask you this, a safe pick would probably be a woman simply because the democrats are going to use abortion as one of their gigantic issues. so that would be a safe bet. but is that necessary? >> ben: i'm not sure it is necessary. you have to have someone on the ticket who request talk about it. i haven't heard, you know, the way that tim scott talks about it that much. i would like to hear more. >> steve: marco rubio mass given some great speeches.

>> ben: people addressed the issue and addressed it well and they don't necessarily have to be a woman but it helps. one more point for tulsi. biggest moment she had on stage in a democratic primary was when she absolutely gutted kamala harris. eviscerated her on stage. i don't know but, but if we're going to have a debate this cycle, if it's going to be any debate, it might be the vice presidential. and i would love to see a rematch. >> brian: let's bring in bret baier, joining on the phone with this breaking news. bret, of course, we just found out -- thanks so much, ben, you can stick around. thanks so much, bret, for joining us. first off, nikki haley ought 10:00 today will make an announcement according to the "wall street journal." she is going to drop out of the race and she will delay endorsing donald trump if at all. >> bret: yeah, good morning. we are hearing that as well. and, you know, this is what had been expected after -- after the results of super tuesday winning

vermont but losing all the other contests. she then suspends her campaign with wins in district of columbia and vermont. the part about not endorsing donald trump, i think, will probably be vexing for some in the republican party and we'll see how she phrases it and how that all comes about. but suspending the campaign brings essentially this race to an end and donald trump is the presumptive nominee with just a few delegates to go before clinching mathematically. >> steve: quoting the "wall street journal" article, it says and we know this first part. haley won't announce an endorsement wednesday, the people close to campaign said. but this is the part i want your comment on. haley will encourage donald trump, who is close to having the delegates needed to win the republican nomination to earn the support of republicans and

independent voters who backed her. what does she want to happen with that? >> bret: steve, this could be negotiating ploy, who knows. i don't think she is on the top of the list for v.p. at least that's the sense you get from trump world and the former president himself. but, i do think that this sounds like a negotiating point and there has got to be some unity messaging here in this speech because that's, i think, what the republican party is yearning for. >> lawrence: bret, when you look at the tea leaves and you have covered this for years, how bloody was this process? is it comparable to any other moment in time where there can be some repair? >> bret: yeah, listen, lawrence. ronald reagan and george h.w. bush were pretty ugly at times

and ran some really tough campaign ads against each other maybe neat as pointed elbows as we got to at the end here, but it was ugly. obviously they came back together and became a ticket. not sure that's going to happen this time. and i think how she talks about in this morning 10:00 a.m. eastern time is going to be crucial and, also, how the former president reacts to that. if it irks him and he reacts that's one thing. i think you saw his speech last night, i do think there was an effort to kind of specifically avoid that topic until he figured out what exactly was happening. >> ainsley: bret, usually when we see candidates mend their relationship, it's when they need one another. look at ted cruz. of they had -- it was a battle, talking about each other's wives. >> steve: until may. >> ainsley: then ted cruz needed

him down it texas. donald trump went down there and helped him with that race when he was running against bourque betoo'rourke. if nikki haley wants to continue and have a future in politics maybe they can come together because maybe they will need each other down the road? >> bret: yeah. i think that's a great point, ainsley. and that is a great analogy as well. ted cruz, he went all the way to the convention. you remember he gave that speech on the floor and then the trump family walked in and sat there while he was speaking? i mean, that was pure drama. >> lawrence: vote your conscience. >> bret: it is possible. it's a matter of figuring out how you can scratch each other's back. again, i'm not sure that vp is the one. >> bret: do you know what is interesting what kellyanne said is that jared and ivanka are really tight with the haley family. >> ainsley: don jr. tweeted he doesn't like her.

he doesn't want her. >> steve: no chance she will be vice president. >> brian: they were close. remember first came down -- she called president trump before she ran. she said, listen, i'm going to reverse my decision. i'm going to go run. basically the same thing tim scott did. i'm going to go run, too. it looked like haley who started in single digits ended up being the number one contender for the next three months. that's when she changed her tone. and that's when she began to make a difference because she, as gavin newsom said, ended up being the best surrogates that democrats had. his quote was i hope she stays in the race as long as possible. so that takes the nuances out of it. >> bret: yeah, i agree with you, listen, the wins she had, vermont and district of columbia those are places where democrats could walk in and vote for nikki haley and, you know, it wasn't -- it didn't feel like there was this big republican outpouring. there is a part of her support

that is skeptical trump or anti-trump. he probably does have to mend that in order to get all of the votes he needs come november. but the question is how he does that and does it start today? >> lawrence: you know, bret, the concerning thing for me is there is clearly a split in the republican party. donald trump represents a new republican party. they -- it looks like nikki haley got that 25% that want to return to the traditional republican party. is that party dead now after the clinching of the nomination basically last night? or does donald trump need to welcome that part of the party in? >> bret: i think to win in november, because of where we -- where we're seeing the approval numbers across the board, he'll have to make some outreach. you know, if he said, you know, she is going to be in my cabinet

or there is going to be a future for nikki haley, or here's what my cabinet looks like, there's a large part of making people feel comfortable, especially people who may look at january 6th and other things and say i have a problem with this but i love politics. >> brian: i thought it was a very learned moment, too. ari fleischer said last night he said in the 2,000 campaign things were better between bush and mccain. bush made peace with mccain but still very unsteady. he argued that bush got really hurt by that and that's why the election with gore obviously went to overtime and was so very close. so, it's hard to walk back some of those comments, i remember south carolina debate. and that went a lot longer, i believe bush 41 and reagan went into may. and he ended up being the running mate there voodoo economics. went down to the fundamentals how he was going to transform america. one thing, lawrence, i don't think nikki haley is that different from trump except for

maybe foreign policy. but, when it comes to the border, when it comes to fiscal responsibility, when it comes to being tough on china, which was not really the foundation of the old -- was -- was not the foundation of the old republican party. >> ainsley: we have independently confirmed she is suspending like you said, bret. you said you were hearing that, too. what do you make of her saying i'm not going to immediately endorse trump? why not? again, i think it's a negotiating ploy. woe haven't heard the speech yet, ainsley. i do think this is an effort to figure out her way forward and whether it is inside the trump administration or outside. i think she wants to make a splash. i do think that there is a very short window here a grace period that republican also want to get together and start fighting this fight against president biden because that is the ultimate goal as you get ready to hear the president on thursday for

the state of the union he is a weakened president. if you look at independents and every other poll he is upside down on every issue. >> brian: he does not think. so he does not think so. he said it yesterday. he said we only report the polls that have him losing. i guess there was a quinnipiac poll. >> bret: every one. >> brian: five in a row. word is behind the scenes he doesn't want to hear it. he feels as though he is winning these tough to convince a president that you have got to come from behind. >> bret: convince a former president you need half the party doesn't think he needs. i do think that's getting through and some of the messaging that you are hearing from the former president. >> lawrence: thanks, bret. >> steve: bret, did we wake you up when we called you? >> bret: i'm getting in the car to go d.c. >> brian: car? >> lawrence: such a boss. >> brian: do you want to use my plane? [laughter] >> steve: probably getting in car to go to your plane. >> bret: exactly. >> brian: i left it running just in case.

>> ainsley: bret, the coverage was excellent. >> bret: team effort. >> steve: good morning, everybody. if you are just getting up at 6:30 eastern time, fox news can report now that nikki haley is expected at 10:00 this morning in a live telecast you will see here on the channel at 10:00 a.m. live from south carolina. she will suspend operations essentially after she was trounced yesterday by donald trump on the republican side in the race for the nomination. he, for all intents and purposes, has clinched the nomination as of next week or the week after that. but, with her dropping out. and she will not endorse donald trump today. and that's what we are speculating with bret with and now i think dana perino is joining us live. hey, dana. >> dana: good morning. >> steve: dana, what do you make of nikki haley? she said she wasn't going to drop out before super tuesday. it's what happened wednesday and it sounds like she is dropping out.

>> dana: well, let's look at it this way, she a real woman of her word. if you think back to last february she started at zero. she said i will get this to a two person race. and a lot of people scoffed at that. and, laura ingraham was saying last night you got to hand it to her, she did what she said she was going to do. she got it to a two-person race. and the thing is the people want who they want. and it was a forgone conclusion going into super tuesday that donald trump would be the presumptive nominee and he is. though, you know, campaigns tend to run out of money, run out of steam, and also just run out of road. she has run out of road. i thought it was -- i understood the reason not to speak last night. let it settle. i also wanted to remind everybody she is a very faithful person. she talked about god a lot on the trail and how he sustained her. but her on earth biggest supporter is right now serving

in the military. and he's not been here during this time for her. >> steve: right. >> dana: i was thinking about that that she has done this one, partly, for her family she says, for america. she is one of the first tea party republicans. i remember covering her back in 2010 when sean hannity asked me to go and meet this woman who was going to run for governor of south carolina. so, i don't know what she will do next in the coming days but i understand that desire, need, and sort of forgone con conclusion to suspend today. >> lawrence: dana, i was watching your coverage last night -- by the way, great job on your analysis. and you alluded to it starts with the call from her. can you go into depth on that? [laughter] >> dana: well, yeah. it was interesting because harold ford jr., who i adore, as you know, said that at this point it is trump's position to reach out to her. and i said well, that's not actually the case. if you lose the race, the person

who is conceding calls the winner and congratulates them; however, in this case, would it go a long way for trump to call her? sure. i mean, if he wanted to. i don't think either of them have to do it. last night was eight months to election day. we have a long way to go. joe biden is in a position where, lawrence, i heard your question to bret about the split in the republican party. i actually think that heals pretty quickly over time. i actually think that the split in the democratic party is a big deal. look at that result in minnesota last night. >> steve: right. >> lawrence: such a great point. >> dana: 20 percent said they were uncommitted. all right. if you are getting to a race where it's going to be this close in these swing states and i'm not saying president trump is going to win minnesota. i'm not saying that i'm saying that president biden has a problem. if they continue to try to kowtow to the left, especially on the issue of gaza and what israel can do to protect itself, they will find themselves with more jewish people in america

saying i don't think i can support you anymore. >> steve: yeah. >> dana: that doesn't mean they are going to vote for trump but biden has a problem. >> brian: dana, looking at the big picture can we look at how past candidates handled it? do you remember was it mccain that reached out to bush or was it bush that reached out to mccain? >> dana: i'm going to proudly say that i was much younger than ari fleischer at the time and i don't remember. [laughter] i was living in san diego at the time. i really don't know. i just know from tradition, you know, i call -- like, for example, what did desantis do? i called donald trump, i'm endorsing him today. >> ainsley: dana, what do you think she is going through right now? we have seen the jabs back and forth and we have known in the past whether candidates go like that it takes a long time for them to heal. what is s she experiencing. >> dana: she has always said up until today she said i have never lost a race. >> ainsley: right. >> dana: she has been counted out, you know that from south carolina. everybody says who is this

woman? how could she possibly win? she was able to do it. and in a way i think that laura ingraham's praise of her last night was really spot on saying she said she was going to do it, she did it, and now maybe she will say i represent a part of the party that wants to vote for you, president trump, that wants to beat joe biden and i think, remember, she was also the first one who said we're not really running against joe biden. we're running against kamala harris. she is an effective campaigner. she has support. i don't know exactly what she is going through, but i think we could all, you know, pray for her especially as you have to step up, make a tough call, and you are doing it without your husband there with you. >> brian: one more element to ask you that i do think you have experience with. do you think it helps trump to name a running mate early to help him with the campaigning being in two places at once? hard to do as a candidate? then you can fan out and put together another team, put him on the other side, they could be raising money, they could be spreading that message, they

could be showing up at the border, especially with knowing that he might have to be in the courtroom a lot? >> dana: you know, i could argue it either way. i like the way you put that. i could see the possibility. but i also think that, one, the civice presidential stakes are always way overrated and overcovered by the media. that would include us. that's fine. it would be fun. it also keeps it in the news, right? so that keeps people guesting. i also thought that president trump last night could have said to biden, mr. president, debate you any time anywhere. let's go. see you in october or see you in september, see you in october. we will do it however you want to do it. and then, again, because the media is going to try to help the biden team say there's no crime here. the economy is so much better. the republicans are the ones that ruined the border policy. and so that's why your point, brian, is a good one. if trump is going to have to be in good, shouldn't there be somebody out there he? will have plenty of supporters

out there. look at tim scott out there giving a good speech. >> steve: dana, thank you very much for joining us live. >> dana: you guys want to see me in an hour? >> brian: still on. got to get dressed eventually. >> dana: okay, i'm coming. >> steve: look at your tv because your partner, bill hemmer actually showed up. he is here in the studio. >> bill: good morning, just got out of the car. >> steve: cat burglar. >> bill: just took off my coat that's a story for another time. talking about the vice presidential pick. in my view this is perhaps one of the most overrated elements of this entire campaign. >> brian: let's not comment. >> bill: we shall. i think the american people are voting on donald trump either a yes or a no and the vp is important. >> steve: what's interesting, we had the billboard over there and it's not turned on. when you look at the billboard she did very well with independents, is suburban womend college educated republicans. these are all republicans, and

i'm not talking about independents or democrats who crossed over. these are republicans. so, how does she rather, how does donald trump wind up with those people? because he needs them to win? >> bill: one thing, i would just -- what's that song by the osborn brothers slow your roll? i think we need to slow our roll. you got 8 months to go now. that is an eternity in american politics and there's plenty of time to reach across the aisle. i would expect them to do a measure of that although perhaps not as much as you would think for a traditional pleasure e. politician would which we know s not. she won district of columbia last weekend and last night vermont. in vermont can you walk into apology place it's not a secret ballot, it's a private ballot. can you choose which party you want and you do not have to change party affiliation. they make it so easy for you to make the selection of your choice. what the raw numbers were in the end about 3,000 or 4,000 vote

margin in vermont. i would have to check that. >> ainsley: i remember yesterday we were talking about how you said she had the chance to win in vermont, which she did. she has a chance to win in virginia. when you look at what happened in virginia, trump won there. >> bill: they came home. >> ainsley: they did. what is happening in virginia? >> bill: i guess we will find out november, fair question. barack obama turned it blue in 2008. first time it had gone blue since 1964. and they have not gone back since. that northern part of the state is always where you focus on. those counties that border washington, d.c. >> steve: fairfax. >> bill: loudoun county. ranked out 1, 2, and 3 out of the entire state. that's where can you drive up numbers for a candidate like barack -- sorry, like joe biden come november. >>t curious because usc covering every single primary and as the party starts to come together, what is the nikki haley voter? like, what do they believe? because there is gonna be this

crossover and then there is some that may not come home. so who are they? talk about the democrats that's voting. but overall? >> bill: my sense of suburban voters a lot of what we saw four years ago that's what i would argue today. how many of them come home? i guess we will wait to find out. the biden team put out a long memo on how they interpreted the results. >> steve: right. >> bill: i think it was about 1:00 this morning. they were banging on trump, banging on trump, banging on trump. maybe legitimate reasons here or there conversely, you have got joe biden who has got a lot of problems. >> lawrence: yeah. >> bill: two things that stick out in my mind that border trip last week when you see him walking along the gravel was not a promising moment. >> brian: was like wallenda walking between buildings. >> bill: leaving camp david when he poked his head out in front of the camera, that's what the democrats have to contend with, a. b, i would argue if you look at

some of these states that had the opportunity to vote noncommitted, minnesota sticks out in a prominent way. i think when we left last night it was 25,000 raw -- 25,000 people in a democratic primary chose noncommitted in minnesota. does that now make the argument that minnesota is in play? it might. there was a double dignity number in north carolina. in minnesota you have got somali americans and jordanian americans. arab americans around dearborn. >> ainsley: are they doing that to send a message? >> bill: maybe. geographically i'm moving from minnesota to michigan to north carolina. in north carolina was deep into the double digits last night. >> brian: listen, we're getting word that your suit is ready, you are having it pressed. >> bill: i will tell you something, i had this massive coat on with a massive suitcase because i'm about to go on the adventure of a lifetime. >> steve: where? >> bill: and when i come back in

a week, i will tell you all about it. >> bret: but you're not going to tell us. >> bill: i'm not going to tell you right now. i'm saving it for dana. it's all work. it's all vacation. and it's super, super cold. >> ainsley: super cold. >> bill: it's not mars. >> steve: going to space. >> brian: it's not america samoa. >> bill: it is not. great to see you. >> ainsley: great job on the billboard. >> steve: walk off. >> bill: this is what it is like at 6:44. >> ainsley: announcement comes during your show. >> bill: perhaps a tease. >> steve: bill, chris has got your coat, just show the coat for a second. show how big this coat is. >> bill: this sucker right here, guys, is good to 60 degrees below zero. okay? steve okay. >> bill: i'm not making this up. will you help me out, ainsley? thank you, thank you. >> ainsley: have to like really do that? >> steve: i'm bill hemmer

reporting from. >> bill: see you guys at 9:00. chow, bye-bye. >> steve: can i see a fox nation promo. down under. >> brian: the artic circle where the russians are trying to move in our territory. >> ainsley: what about that place that janice went? >> brian: what about greenland we can buy it while hemmer is there. >> lawrence: i will give you a quarter of the cost. you have to provide the other 75. >> brian: to what? >> lawrence: to buy it. >> steve: we'll put it on -- >> brian: bring in jonathan turley. how much money do you have if we wanted to buy greenland we want to get some kind of fund together? john the john the i'm always told take my jacket off for bill. stripping me down as we speak.

>> steve: we booked to you talk about something else. nikki haley is going to drop out at 10:00. we will show it live on fox. she is not going to endorse donald trump, if at all. what are your observations given how you know how things work? >> jonathan: i have had the coverage of covering as many of you have presidential elections going back now six presidents. trump is always that unknown card. you know, in 2016, i think he took the establishment from the blind side. they just did not see him coming because they didn't really understand what was happening in the country. but there's that old expression, are right? that generals too often prepare to fight the last war instead of the next war. i think that one of the questions is he going to pivot now in the democrats have given him, in some ways, a political favor with all of these charges. they have bulldozed any moral high ground they had after january 6th with the ballot cleansing and all of the lawsuits and the astronomical

damages. i think the public gets it. ' there is a certain victimology that is brought into this campaign that is real, is legitimate. the question is whether he can sort of stand tall in front of that storm. you know, i think he has to be able to offer something other than, you know, this is a way to throw grenade into the establishment. he has that i mean, i think we saw that in 2016 but i think what we are really going to see with haley's departure is this vacuum is that now that he is standing alone. now that he will most certainly be the nominee, will he offer something beyond the fact that we have to fight what they're doing or what they have done? and i think you started to see that, but we're waiting for some details. he is going to have a new administration. he will have a new attorney general. a new secretary of state. what is the mandate he is going to give them? i think that's what a lot of

people want to hear. >> lawrence: jonathan, i'm just curious. now we know pretty much going to be wrapped up. donald trump will soon be the presumptive nominee. do you feel this alters the way the court handles with this? don't they have a duty to let the candidate run his race and not be in court? do you see a change in some of these judges? >> jonathan: i think that is really the difficult question here. the supreme court handed down what i consider to be one of the most important decisions of the history of that institution. it told american citizens and they took that to heart yesterday that they will choose their next leader, that states are not going to be able to unilaterally cleanse their ballots. not just of trump. many democrats have called for the removal of up to 200 republicans from ballots. so, that's not going to happen.

but, the real question is what these trial judges are going to do. judge chutkan in d.c. said i'm not going to consider at all that you're running for president. and that surprised a lot of us because if this -- if the supreme court rules against trump on immunity and sends that mandate back to the district court and she decides to put the pedal to the metal and hold a trial before the election, that trial could conceivably go through the election. >> brian: when would it start though? the thing is would they start a trial in september? remember that unsaid rule you talk about we don't want to effect an election? what is considered not effecting an election? because they are now asking for one case in july trump team said give me august. the question is would they take september? do you think that september would be acceptable to the american people?

>> jonathan: that's a very good question. smith filed said i don't consider myself bound by that longstanding policy. >> brian: unbelievable. >> jonathan: i'm not going to be restricted by that the question is whether the trial judge in d.c. is going to say look, enough, i gave you one of the fastest tracks i have seen. i rack tied in d.c. i have never seen a case like this get scheduled for trial in this speed. as the a criminal defense attorney. my head would catch on fire if a judge said do you know what i'm going to give you a couple of months on pre-trial and we are going to rush this thing through. >> steve: exit question. a year ago. get in the way back machine. a year ago donald trump was trailing ron desantis in the popularity polls and alvin bragg indicted him here in new york and suddenly he made hay of it and, you know i know he complains about the legal cases but, ultimately, in a weird way they actually helped him. >> jonathan: that's the funny

aspect of this all this talk about how much money the trump campaign has. every time he shows up in a courtroom, he is on all the networks. and the optics are good for him because every time he is on it's a different city. it's a different case and i don't think the american people like that. i think that they feel like the establishment, once again. >> brian: republicans do. >> jonathan: hand on the scale. >> ainsley: thank you for come in. go to katie pavlich get reaction to this news. he brings up good points. what happens now with the media now that it's going to be trump and biden. they are going to be all in on these court cases. they are already saying they are going to be aggressive and go for the jugular. >> katie: president trump is very good using the media to advantage. talk about these republicans who they are trying to bring back into the party. a a lot of the republicans i know who like nikki haley they believe a lot of these court cases, mostly the one in new york where they are trying to seize assets, put president trump through a show trial, you know, claiming fraud when there

are no victims. the banks said they paid back all of their loans that that was a serious red flag for them and they're getting behind donald trump. when it comes to moving forward here and the bigger picture for this race, you know, there's a lot of talk about how nikki haley may come back into the fold. she is not going to endorse trump today. she has been saying on the campaign trail joe biden should resign for the good of the country. that it is unsustainable for kamala harris to become president. if she believes what she has been saying she will eventually get behind donald trump. and you have to remember that ted cruz pulled this thing all the way to the convention. there were back door meetings, secret dinners happening for people to try and game delegates at the convention to take donald trump out there. that's not going to happen. but ted cruz had won texas. he had won wisconsin. he had vice president mike pence endorse him and, yet, pence went on to be donald trump's vice president. >> steve: right. >> katie: that's one thing. the other thing is that joe biden has been sitting the campaign has been barely warmed

up on the democratic side. they have a lot of money and donald trump is now just getting started as you guys have mentioned all morning it's the longest general election campaign that we have ever seen. the media will certainly be on donald trump -- not on donald trump's side but against him. they are secretly happy that he is back because you'll remember the hay days of him being in the white house everyone was watches. you can't look away. and we are watching history take place here. this is something we haven't ever seen. >> lawrence: katy, who do you like for these v.p. options? because it's going to be a long race. this is probably going to be the longest general election but there is a lot of super stars within the republican party right now. i know loyalty is one thing for donald trump. who do you like within the top list? >> katie: i think donald trump will make the best decision he can for whatever he needs to get him over the finish line. there is still a lot of time. there is something to be said about waiting to the convention to announce the nominee to get this thing going, steve, where they need to go to see what kind

of voters they need. look where they are trailing what states they may need someone in to get them over the finish line. a long list of people thrown out their names. tim scott was a good advocate last night south carolina senator last night for the president. but, you know, that question has not been answered yet. and so the list is long. there are lots of contenders. who will want that position. i'm sure they will look at the pieces on the map and see where they need to get voters. mike pence, of course, helped donald trump back in 2016 with the evangelical vote. donald trump doesn't need that vote anymore. so maybe he will be looking at other states. also there is this question of whether donald trump is going to campaign in all 50 states. maybe he would look at elise stefanik for example someone take him in new york. >> brian: tulsi gabbard is also waiting in the wings. see what happens. >> steve: you have been waiting in the wings you have been on all morning. >> katie: not all morning. all good. busy. >> brian: coming up straight ahead we continue to bring you the latest on the breaking news. here it is nikki haley about to

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