>> kayleigh: all eyes on the border today as president biden and former president trump head down for dueling visits as immigration is the top issue for 2024. this is "outnumbered," i'm kayleigh mcenany, with harris faulkner and emily compagno and host of the michele tafoya podcast, michele tafoya, and former gubernatorial candidate lee zeldin. there is president biden boarding air force one on route to brownsville and former president trump is going to eagle pass, texas. just 46 apprehensions this week in brownsville compared to 2100 in eagle pass in last five days. i wonder why biden chose brownsville? you're looking at it. we have bill melugin, but we

begin with griff jenkins with the latest. >> griff: the latest is president biden will soon be at brownsville border patrol station accompanied by dhs secretary mayorkas and will dpet operational briefing from the chief of the border patrol and officials who will bring him up to date and learn 5:00 a.m. this morning, 100 migrants crossed in this area. exclusive footage shot by fox cameraings, more than 100 migrants being processed at camp monument, mostly central american migrants, some from venezuela. many of them criminal migrants that have been in the news recently. i want to talk about the difference between eagle pass where bill melugin is and brownsville, where i am. you can see on the comparison less than 50 in this area, zero

crossings on monday and illustrates the fact the president is coming to one of the least most trafficked areas in the country. i was able to speak to the border patrol chief jason owens who will brief the president. no one knows the situation better and he talks about the number we don't puts enough emphasis on and that is gotaways, those that evade apprehension and disappear into the dark of the country. here is what he had to say about it. listen. >> i know so far the known gotaways, folks we've been able to detect and not been able to get to and apprehend, 120s,000 already this year. unknown gotaways is what we don't know, nothing more than a guess. i'm worried it could be a substantial amount, i won't know that until i have resources and manpower before i can cover the areas not covered right now.

>> griff: to flash back to the fact brownsville was ground zero nine months ago, may of 2023, title 42 was ending, shooting hundreds of migrants crossing at the time. this is one of the least trafficked area because of the wire and the obstructions the state of texas has put up to drive the numbers down and it is numbers surge in arizona and california. latest number of crossings across southwest border, 6500 in last 24 hours, most in the arizona and california areas. back to you. >> kayleigh: keep us updated, thank you, griff jenkins. today president biden to the border. he set off a bomb and he has essentially going to stand in the debris of the bomb he set off and try to say my predecessor donald trump set off

the bomb vm we'll fact check that. here is border numbers, they are elevated around 2021 at the south sector and you can see in arizona and texas. record highs on president biden's watch, harris. >> harris: so i want you to notice something else about the numbers. it is winter time and they often dip down. remember numbers were higher going into january, people were freezing and they were trying to get them into tents. sometimes you see that slow down. the place it has slowed down the most is where the containers and razor wires. no arguing fact going to an area that used to be the epicenter and is now benefiting from what the governor has done in texas, now we see the president of the united states. i don't know if he's planning to take a victsry lap around that, a few weeks ago he was fighting to take that down. can you imagine what brownsville

would have looked like if those things did not exist? the border patrol council told me migration wests, the cartels know. they have detection and know where we are putting resources and they are flooding people and we are starting to see undocumented minors coming across, along with fentanyl in arizona and now california. so biden can run, but he can't hide. he can run for president, he can't hide from that. >> kayleigh: yeah, the most c confounding white house decision-making. you want to magnify chaos you created and you want to elevate your rival. by biden going there today he's highlighting trump's trip across all major networks who would have otherwise ignored it. the part that is most confounding, if you go to chaos, bring a deliverable, declare an

emergency. he is not intending to do that, bolster resources at the southern border, they are seeking to blame trump for lack of action at the border while tying the former president to the disruption. this is a blame trump trip. >> lee: what can i do? you are feeling urgenty and know this is number one issue for so many americans and decide you can't avoid it and decide to go to the border, show up with action. you are showing a chart what it was like under president trump, what it is like now, the numbers and there are policies and explanation that dps to it. president trump in office ramped up the construction of the border wall. there was no ramping up of catch and release. they were implementing remain in

mexico policy when joe biden gets rid of it. title 42 eliminated without a replacement. custom and border patrol saying, keep our names out of your mouth, you were talking about that last hour. when joe biden and his administration comes in, they are attacking great agents who are willing to protect this country. >> harris: who does that, seriously? >> lee: president biden has power to open the border and close it, show up with deliverables. >> kayleigh: he says he doesn't have the power unless congress gives it to him. here is what he said on that point, watch. >> president biden: this bill would give me as president emergency authority to temporarily shut down the border when it becomes overwhelmed. if the bill law today, it would qualify to be shut down right now. >> kayleigh: he needs bipartisan

border deal, fact check, we got you. section 212 f, whenever the president finds entry of any aliens or class in the u.s. would be detrimental to u.s., he may suspend entry of all aliens or any class as immigrants or nonimmigrants. we found you the power, you going to use it? emily. >> emily: it is exhausting to try to educate this president on the powers he has. i see this as yet another foefsive slap in the face of americans and those in law enforcement putting their lives on the line to support the southern border. reminds me september 11, our president decided to attend summit in asia. it's 9/11? where can i stop? alaska? the thoughtlessness, the messaging is abject utter

thoughtlessness. going to visit troops in combat situations in iraq and kuwait. i got to go to those fabs. seeing the two of them and choices they had made and where to visit, it is not wrong or incorrect to say you have shown up and done a -- deployed troops in camp libertier or baghdad, you are not wrong, it is not the same thing as going to the operating bases. not same thing as looking in eyes the troops. the difference to me, it is not wrong, it is off. it sure dang is offensive to me to see this president pretend or not have knowledge he has power to change the situation and utter minimum to show support for border patrol. >> kayleigh: he should stay home, sign 94 executive actions,

put in place trump border policy. blue-state mayors that have aided and abetted, call them, emergency legislative session to cities, roll back your policy, americans are dying. >> michele: i saw this list scroll earlier and i was blown away. i knew there were sanctuary cities and states, i did not know the list was this extensive. citizens in athens, georgia, are screaming, what have you done to us? you have blood on your hands, if you are keeping these people here. it is simple and irritating and offensive. i don't get offended much, i get insulted when the president of the united states looks into camera and says congress needs to give me power or money. that is not true, i hate to say it is a lie, it is a lie, flat out wrong and he could make a change now. >> harris: we stopped scrolling,

there is more. we tried to wait last hour. >> kayleigh: scroll until 1 p.m. supreme court revealing they will rule on president trump's immunity as another state removes him from their ballot. we'll bring a live report when we come back. don't go anywhere. when high rate debt is stressing your budget. but your family's service has earned you a big advantage. the va home loan benefit. with the lower rate newday 100 va cash out loan, you can pay off high rate credit cards and car loans. that's real money you can use to take care of your family and home.

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>> harris: former president trump has been kicked off another state's ballot. this time in illinois. u.s. supreme court agreed to rule on whether trump has immunity in jack smith's election interference case, dispute that will have political implications for entire nation.

shannon bream is live in washington, d.c. shannon. >> shannon: the supreme court does not enjoy being in the middle of political issues, it is juggling several cases that could impact this year's campaign. in addition to the illinois judge who booted the president from the primary ballot, super tuesday, two other states made the same decision, all on hold pending a decision on whether colorado had a right to do what they did. the judges heard the argument on the eighth, the decision could come any time. whether votes will actually get counted or not is up to that decision, we are waiting from the justices and could come any time. in many respects, legal team for trump could argue they got a win from the sprem court yesterday by virtue of justices deciding to take up the case if he has

immunity in the jack smith case against him. you have lawyers on the coach with you, this is what they agreed to hear in april. whether and if so to what extent does a former president enjoy presidential immunity for conduct alleged to have involved acts during his tenure in office. yesterday's order does not tell us how each justice voted. decision due by late june, only then would trial court lift the pause on proceedings and take months to get to trial, could be summer, fall or later. >> harris: you have given me homework assignment with the legal eagles on the couch. thank you, good to see you. let's unpack that. first of all, what happens in those states like illinois and others? we can pop up a map, others would love to join the party. they have been dismissed, those

are in below, or dismissed on appeal. rest of states might be interested in taking him off the ballot, like maine and colorado. what happens? >> lee: supreme court will have to weigh in here and hearing arguments on states so far, we saw this is not just 6-3 divide, this could be 7-2 decision and 8-1 or 9-0 decision. there seems to be bigger support than the 6-3 breakdown. i don't want to hear about attacks on democracy when you see an attack like this. no greater threat against democracy than joe biden and democrats saying americans don't have a right to choose their own president in november. this is the greatest threat to democracy that is imaginable. >> harris: also like a really big deal about election interference, why doesn't anybody call it that? i call it that.

>> emily: perfect segue, i spoke to a loyal fox watcher who said my biggest concern is the fact no one assuage election integrity and election interference. why don't the questions seem to be not answered or addressed in the public sector? that map perfectly illustrates one legal argument, patchwork effect, how can you take away from people power to have a candidate for national election on every single ballot when it clearly is here in consideration in some states? it is fascinating question, i think largest continued slap in the face by left is knee-jerk quote behind donald trump's name, the threat to democracy when greatest threat is if this occurs. >> lee: this is clearly election interference and proven to be when you see tears on the other side over the last 24-48 hours.

>> emily: yes, yes, yes. >> harris: pop up the map, notice gold, those states are pending with this. talk about patchwork, we will go into election season, colorado has taken name off the ballot before supreme court weighed in, if the votes don't count, neighbors next door, their votes didn't matter, they might vote for somebody else. do you think it gives some advantage to one side or the other? >> michele: i'm not a lawyer, i got a masters in marketing leadership. let the market decide, let consumers, people, voters decide. one judge in illinois made this happen. one election official in maine

who made this happen. supreme court of colorado made this happen. these are not voters. taking someone's name off a ballot, deleting a choice. you better love america enough to want to defend democracy by allowing the people to choose what happens in november, not these little handful of bureaucrats or judges. >> harris: and it brings to the point, why people distrust this process, you look at that map and think, the united states is not united when we vote? real quick question for you. when do we reach the point too close to the election? like is that being talked about, do you think in the white house? calculus being, if we could speed this up a little bit. >> kayleigh: it is being talked about openly. i heard an anchor say everyday counts, like toward what?

speeding up a process in election interference? people are openly saying that. jamie raskin talking about the supreme court, we should be engaged and aroused because of supreme court. what does that mean? really, nancy pelosi? way to disturb faith in institution. yes, he used those words, check it out. illinois and the decision they made, one of my former colleagues pointed out on page 38, illinois state board of election shall we move donald trump from the ballot from the general election or cause any vote cast for him to be suppressed. word of advice for those engaging in election interference and voter suppression, look up suppressed, don't admit you want to suppress the vote. well done. emily, how do you explain to americans who get up early on

that day, primary in their state and vote and they find out if it does not work in the u.s. supreme court that vote doesn't count? >> emily: you can't explain it and it is indefensible, it is antithet cal to what we stand for. why is the left and democratic party think it is okay or that they can gaslight us to accept it when it is anything but. >> harris: coming up, president biden's doctor says he is fit for duty, that may not assuage worry and fearsome are expressing in the poll and we picked one where he is scratching his head. that just happened. >> why is the president or your office not willing to make dr. o'connor available to answer questions here?

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he passes a cognitive test everyday, he moves from one topic to another topic. this is a rigorous job and the president has been able to do this job everyday for the last three years. he has been able to get done over the past three years. >> emily: he passes a cognitive test everyday? he might be presented with a cognitive test everyday, passing it remains to be see. kevin mccarthy would disagree. >> he still has a teleprompter when you meet behind closed doors. i found when i met with him, he would read from the card. if you deviate, i didn't negotiate with him, the debt ceiling, he just sticks to the cards and if you deviate, he can't continue on.

>> lee: the reason why he is not getting a cognitive test, concern over what the results are going to show and spin is becoming more and more hyper bollic and does not pass smell test for rest of america because we're watching this so-called cognitive test everyday in front of us and on the camera concerned about what would happen if you had a test and the doctor was able to take the podium and answer questions. i don't think they want the public to see that. the idea we are witnessing this case of benjamin button, he is getting better and stronger and younger everyday, americans are watching saying, there is an issue, be honest what is going on. >> emily: a cognitive test was administered in deposition, vice president could not remember when he was vice president or when his son died.

>> kayleigh: fantastic point, only reg cognitive test we've gotten and he failed it and robert hur detailed it for us all to read. it is laughable for the president to say he pass a cognitive test everyday, i don't say that with glee, i want him to be with it when he sits across from xi and putin and others. 70% of more thanes say he is too old, he fails cognitive test everyday. handled it so poorly, don't do a surprise physical, it is planned part of his schedule, nothing to see here, not a big deal, doing annual physical and pop it up as surprise, maybe to detract from hunter. not good pr. >> emily: what is insulting at a minimum, when karine jean-pierre says he is leading a historic presidency while everyone campaigns around him is

something to be side for cognition, it isn't. for her to think we will accept that as reasoning -- >> harris: interesting, too. couple things. i thought about this yesterday why on that day would he have unannounced and reporters are there on the lawn and helicopter appears. where is he going? anyone know? he turned around inaudibly and took every microphone to say, i'm going to get my physical today. you couldn't hear him, the helicopter was going. hunter biden, yes. primary was bad, it said a lot about his faern policy and what gentle balance and finesse he is lacking. all the thing she says he passes cognitive everyday he is failing at.

nuances and people voting uncommitted instead of your name. that donald trump might get more votes from republicans than you do from democrats. he is failing. why doesn't he see this in himself? we are always told and whatever it is, if it is a lump some place, told to check ourselves. if you feel like your memory is going, get that checked out, especially if you are over 65 and doctors tell you that. why doesn't he say, i might be in trouble? ego, narcissism? what is it? >> michele: both things, this man had one goal his whole life, to be president of the united states. not for -- maybe there is ideology there, he told people from a very young age, i'm going to be president of the united states. his son told him to run. that is all he ever wanted to be. he's there and he's passed his peek and he is historical,

historically bad and awful. to have karine jean-pierre say over and over again how robust, healthy, smart and sharp this man is. you do protest too much, trying to sell it. we've got eyes and just because you have that podium doesn't mean you tell us stuff we can see for ourselves ain't the truth. >> emily: short video what she had to say when asked why biden's doctor is not available to speak to the press for administration that promised transparency. >> why is the president or your office not willing to make the doctor available to us to answer questions here? previous presidents put their doctor at the lectern, why not this doctor? >> there is not a precedence for bringing the doctor to the briefing room. i understand it has happened a

few teams over the last 35 years, a couple times, it is not the precedence. the doctor has put forward a c comprehensive, robust memo. >> emily: how this administration promised transparency. we don't do it, there is no precedence. didn't you promise some ceiling shattering administration and supposed to expect the norms were to be shattered by you bucking the norm and we are supposed to say, the rules don't suggest it. it is a farce. >> kayleigh: very simple, if i would have gone to former president trump and said this is going on about your health. he would have said send out the white house physician, let me take a cognitive test, which he

did and passed. they are failing to do either thing, why? he is cognitively impaired and that is sad to say. >> emily: most basic thing of any evaluation, when emergency services come, you assess a person's mental cognition, everything else is added on top. according to this president, that is not part of it. we are looking live at eagle pass, texas on your screen where former president trump will visit in the next few hours challenging president biden on his border policy. bill melugin live on those dueling visits next. and unforgettable scenery with viking. unpack once, and get closer to iconic landmarks, local life, and cultural treasures. because when you experience europe on a viking longship,

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>> kayleigh: former president trump is on his way to eagle pass, texas, an area of the border seeing more activity compared to where president biden is heading. former president expected to hammer biden over open border policy and point out recent surge in violent crime. bill melugin is live with more. bill. >> bill: hi, kayleigh, former president trump expected to give remarks in eagle pass 3:45 eastern time. he is coming to eagle pass, fox news spent last several years, epicenter of the border crisis. president biden heading to brownsville to see little to no activity. this graphic is courtesy of cbp. the difference with eagle pass and brownsville, eagle pass 2000 and brownsville just 46. monday 5 63-0 in brownsville.

what has been taking place in eagle pass? this is yesterday. border patrol troopers finding five unaccompanied young migrant children from guatemala and honduras, part of a group that passed, kids were ages 5-11, with notes going to new york and texas. biden administration will resetel them throughout the united states. video of president trump campaigning. when he speaks today, we are expecting a number of topic, mass catch and release policy and highlight arrest of illegal aliens in recent days and weeks, high profile crimes committed against americans and earlier i caught president of the border patrol union who will be on stage with the president today. i asked him why he's joining the former president? >> agents are nonpolitical, they

want policy to allow us to do our job and that is what president trump does. >> bill: just a short time ago, we learned federal judge blocked texas border security bill sb 4, set to take effect next week that would allow texas to arrest and jail illegal immigrant and give state judges ability to order deportation. judge aing that is a federal judge's job and texas can appeal if they would like to. back to you. >> kayleigh: thank you. we talked about a trip having deliverables and biden has none. there was a president that can give deliverables. i was with president trump in yuma, arizona in 2020. he signed a plaque commemorating 200th mile of border wall. that is when you make a trip to the border, when you have something to show. >> michele: biden has nothing to show, what he has to show is

crisis of epic proportions. my family originally came here legally, my grandparents and i'm so grateful and i was taught everyday of my life, you were born in the greatest country of the world. we adopted my daughter from colombia. guatemala and u.s. had a adoption program, but it was so corrupt it was shut down. all this is delivering to the american people. this administration does not care about the children, do not care about trafficking or that cartels have complete control of our southern border and we do not, that is what he's delivering. >> kayleigh: who can handle the border better in swing states, trump plus 21 in georgia.

trump plus 16 michigan, plus 17 wisconsin. trust in trump. >> lee: president trump has done it already, he can do it again, do not just take his word for it. when he asks his team, let me know what i can do first day on the job. if he had the power to sign it today, he would be signing it today. on the other side of the aisle, their agenda with states not complying and working with ice, they want to abolish ice. attacks on law enforcement and free everything at expense-law-abiding hard-working americans, contrast is clear. number one issue and they trust trump more. >> kayleigh: number one in majority support forever building a wall. vice president kamala harris has nothing but good things to say

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>> dueling border visits today by donald trump and joe biden.

we have all the action there. text messages between terrence bradley and ashleigh merchant, what story do they tell about the fani willis romance. putin is warning of nuclear war, general keith kellogg is here. why did a judge in illinois sdried donald trump engaged in insurrection? i'm john roberts, join the hammer and me at top of the hour. >> emily: vice president kamala harris tipping her hat to liberal cities despite refusal to lockup offender, she says their lax policies are a better way of doing things. >> having progressive prosecutors, for example, who can show what is possible and then show that it works and show that frankly it is not contrary

to public safety. it is a better way, very effective way among other ways to achieve public safety. >> emily: congressman, what is working with that? what is effective about that? that is patently wrong and obvious in destruction of blue cities as no one is prosecuting offenders and people are dying, what is she talking about? >> lee: these people are implementing her agenda. when they see cashless bail in new york, it doesn't stay there, they want it across the country. kamala harris was raising mope to bail out these rioters doing the protest in 2020 in minneapolis. when you see attacks on law enforcement and laws being

passed in state capitol prioritizing illegal immigrants over law-abides citizens, this is what they want implemented. >> emily: this is their agenda, it wasn't hear. there was failure on her part, that is what she wanted to do, represent state prosecuting infractions of the law. she is ideologically confused, it is trash and results in anything we can depend on. >> michele: and results in illegal migrants flipping off cameras in new york because they can't hold them on bail, whatever, whatever. she does not go into specifics what this has done, she says being done a better way, what does that mean? a better way? you see crime on the rise.

president biden said crime is down in america? do you believe your lying eyes or the president of the united states? >> harris: some categories in new york city, they say crime is down. take a look at the crimeless and what is not factored in are crimes that become something else. if you're mugged, but there are people willing to kill you whether you give up your purse or not, what was the motive there? when you look at what happened to the young georgia nursing student with an illegal immigrant suspected much doing that, disfigured her skull. did not take anything from her, malice murder. it was in the purpose of killing. what does she say about that? i want kamala harris to be able to drill down. she once did want to work for the state. if she's on the ticket again, she has to answer these questions.

>> emily: reclassifying violence has been more destructive than no cash bail and she's supported those policies ands this is a better way, is she talking to families of deputy cordero, gunned down in southern california by a recidivist. too many victims families to count, we pray for them all but this vice president ignored them and the impact. >> kayleigh: unsurprising she would ignore those realities, they are not hers, her ignoring political reality, did she not see boyou'din? crime was at the center of your race and so many others. >> emily: more "outnumbered" in just a moment, stay with us. i'm. automated voice: please insert your parking ticket. it's going to take a lot more than a little ticket to get out of here. and if you have cut rate car insurance,

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secretary is responding to what speaker, former speaker mccarthy had said, that even in like very small meeting settings president biden has to have notes and he can't be distracted and can't sway from that or stray from that. here is this from the white house now. perhaps speaker mccarthy should make a note of the following reporting on his own card so he doesn't forget it again. and then what they have done, the white house deputy press secretary, andrew bates, has then provided some links, one is kevin mccarthy who talks from notes and this is huffington post and separately the "new york times," privately mccarthy has told allies he found mr. biden to be mentally sharp. they went through and tried -- don't know the dates on those things, we have not had a chance to drill down, this is just happening. but kevin mccarthy struck a nerve with the white house and the white house is fighting back. we have a border crisis. focus, people. "america reports" now.