>> kayleigh: a crucial moment in the biden impeachment inquiry is unfolding. hunter biden on capitol hill for closed-door deposition, an interview he fought tooth and nail to avoid. house republicans are expected to press hunter his foreign business dealings and whether or not his father was involved. this is "outnumbered," i'm kayleigh mcenany. here with co-host emily compagno and harris faulkner. president of american spirit enterprises, tammy bruce and jason chaffetz. let's go to david spunt live on capitol hill with details. >> david: we heard from nancy mace from south carolina who said hunter biden has not once invoked fifth amendment right to self-incrimination. she says he is defiant.

house democrats say he is being very candid and there is no impeachable evidence that relates directly to hunter biden. this will be a long day for hunter biden and his attorneys and for members of congress and staff in the room. hunter rushed past cameras, joined with his lead attorney abbe lowell. he told a committee for more than a year your committees have hunted me in your pursuit of my dad. you have trafficked inuendo, ignoring clear and convincing evidence staring you in the face. you do not have evidence to support the conspiracies about my father because there is not any. the house republicans want to ask hunter about business deals

to see if and how they relate to his dad, the president. today's deposition is part of the larger probe into president biden and hunter has been a large part of that. >> i'm ready to try to begin to close this investigation. this has been a very difficult investigation. this administration has been obstructive. >> comer says the investigation goes on and hunter's team is hoping arrest of alexander smirnov will help his case. he was determined to be a flight risk. he was determined to lie to the fbi when he said hunter and joe biden received 5 million each from ukraine. democrats say it should end the probe. >> what we just witnessed over the last hour was deep sea fishing expedition because the

republican case has fallen apart over last several weeks. >> we're hearing from both sides and await the transcript to see what hunter biden said, what was asked and answered and that is expected to take a few days given what is expected to be a very long day today. back to you. >> kayleigh: long day and long anticipated day. david spunt, thank you. start with nuts and bolts, jason. this is best summary of the hunter biden saga put out by mike johnson. 15 million flowed to the biden family from russia and china. 22 times president biden talked to his son's business associates. 16 times biden lied to the american people about it. we have checks made out to biden directly. that is what this is about. >> jason: joe biden is vice president and had a if fictitio

name and what about the e-mails and the 80 visits that happened from hunter biden business associates and the white house and the $20 million that came in and the $100 thousand in the bank account of joe biden's grandkids. for what? what about going on air force two, 12 times, places like china and striking a multi million dollar deal that ended with money going into hunter biden businesses. what about maria budarina, sorry, slaughtering her name, the russian oligarch. testimony says during that meeting joe biden called in as vice president and said, "help my son." there were millions dollars. this russian oligarch, not on the list of sanctions. what a surprise.

there is so much evident. it infuriates me when they say there is not evidence. >> kayleigh: huntered you do not have evidence to support the conspiracies about my father because there isn't any. here is what biden said about business dealings previously. watch. >> president biden: i did not know he was on the board of that company. i never discussed my business or their business, my son's or daughter's. never discussed my son about anything to do with ukraine. never spoken to my son about overseas business dealings. never discussed with my son or my brother anything to do with their business, period. ♪ ♪ >> no. >> kayleigh: that is what he said, except scroll 20 pieces from house oversight of involvement in business dealings.

devon archer, joe biden is the brand. 2015, biden host official residence. i would call this evidence. >> harris: jason just laid this case out, this is why he was the chairman of oversight. kudos to you. we could scroll for the rest of the show, we don't have time. one thing andy mccarthy said to me was that there is a what's app message that hunter famously sent in 2017, he extorted his own chinese business partner by saying, i'm sitting here with my father and we want to know why you guys have not come through yet. they have three or four different things like that, probably more, they could throw at him and keep asking, you sure your father wasn't involved in this? this could go around and around. does hunter biden do what the man on the stand in the nathan

wade and fani willis case did yesterday, lose his memory? just say, i don't remember. he could plead the fifth or say, i don't know. with receipts right in front of him. interesting what comes out in the transcript. >> kayleigh: we have the message, emily, pull it up right now. the mesdz age is interesting. shakedown. i'm sitting here with my father and why hasn't the commitment been fulfilled, tell the director i would like to resolve this, now means tonight. if i get a call or text from anyone else, i will make certain the man sitting next to me and my ability to hold a grudge, you will regret not following my direction. i'm sitting here waiting for the call with my father. >> emily: according to hunter, that was taken out of context. >> kayleigh: how? what context?

>> emily: exactly. we don't have the transcripts of this current testimony, but we have that opening statement and he makes two claims essentially underneath entire tree of there is nothing to see here. he essentially claims everything done was in the throws of addiction and said republicans, maga induced republicans have been cherry picking, altering, misrepresenting and taking out of context my communication in facts and financials and only participation his father had was to save his life. he goes down to discredit facts and sources by talking about convictions. what they have been accused of while failing to put spotlight on himself. if he were to go by that same rationale, whether someone was credible, he's there in that pool of being totally uncredible. he says essentially there is nothing to see here. continues to talk about maga

republicans and feeds into democrats come out midway through testimony and say, it is just a fantasy, everything has been altered. end of the day, that is what democrats pick up on. him saying in his opening statement, i was in the throws of my addiction, i take responsibility. he took responsibility, he did. see, leave him alone. he did not take responsibility for financials, mountains of evidence, years of enrichment at behest of our vice president and tax dollars. it is -- i think taste of the transcript we're going to get. >> harris: or shakedown in the messages. >> tammy: evidence is important, if you rely on someone who will recall or not recall a text or if he's a liar and i think he may be, he can say that. when you have volume of evidence of bank records and checks,

other statements, where people physically were, etcetera, that is when that text matters. is that, could that be true in midst of everything we know. then you have the fbi informant and they are hoping to win the news cycle and hear the complaints. when a guy is arrested, you think it must be bad. in fact, not. anything he said, you would have preferred to have evidence linking 5 million and you have to find out where the 5 million moved. the fbi seemed to be okay with that guy for a decade and only suddenly now he's a liar and making stuff up. they should look at every single case they used him on and review it like you would any other person who is placing evidence for a d.a. that whether or not that person is credible. >> kayleigh: we'll see if there is new evidence. for now, here is new video of

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>> emily: authorities in maryland arrested an illegal imfrom el salvador in connection with -- live with more details on this

gut-wrenching story. >> gut-wrenching. the little boy has just turned two in january. they were out for a walk and jeremy was struck and killed. his mother survived. he was described as a sweet and quiet little boy who loved cocomelon. a 25-year-old illegal immigrant from el salvador was arrested. ice told fox 5 repeated efforts to remove him from the u.s. were ignored. the timeline is shocking and speaks for itself. in 2022, he was ordered removed from the u.s. march of 2023, arrested for theft and ice filed to keep him in custody. he was released by montgomery county detention center.

he was released again and this week he is charged with murder. why would this happen? montgomery county maryland has sanctuary status and keeps police from enforcing federal immigration laws. >> emily: that tragic story is one of many cases of migrant crime we've seen in many days. ice officials arrested guatemalan migrant for battery of assault and battery of minor. this honduran man was arrested because he reportedly raped a 14-year-old. this man assaulted a teen girl in virginia and we covered the murder of laken riley. venezuelan national accused of

murdering the nursing student. jason chaffetz, multiple hearings in front of congress where families who have lost loved ones at the hand of illegal immigrants testified over and over again. don rosenburg is a father and testified about the death of his son who died at the hands of an illegal immigrant in california. he pointed out each time congresswoman porter responds, i'm sorry for your loss. it is not about what you say, it is about your actions and nothing speaks louder than action of this administration, utter inaction. >> jason: this is so sad. it doesn't need to happen. not every person coming across the border will be a murderer. i'm sick and tired of hearing democrats talk about we really care and it shouldn't have happened. if you care, get rid of your

sanctuary status. what sanctuary means, they will not communicate with ice. you have somebody here illegally and you commit a brutal crime, they will not tell authorities to deport them. i give mayor eric adams credit for at least uttering out loud we should reconsider sanctuary status in new york. these are entirely preventable. you commit a crime, you kick a cop, we kick you back to venezuela or wherever you came from. until democrats get rid of sanctuary status, we will hear about this time and time again and countless people get murdered that should never happen. >> emily: how many times are people accused of crime recidivists, how much times charged and released on similar crime. we read some just now. >> kayleigh: it is sad and

infuriating. bill melugin began, can't keep up with the stories at this point. there are so many. to your point, emily, many recidivists. this national trajectory at the border has a face, laken riley. this national tragedy has many faces and a president without interest in addressing this. he knows it is a problem. he added to his schedule today a discussion about crime. you want to end crime, cancel the meeting and your remarks and go to your desk at oval office and take your pen, to fix this. don't go to the border tomorrow, save the gas, sit at your desk and 94 signatures reinstates trump era policies. trump in july 11 of 2015, i sat across from an angel mom, who lost her son in a hit-and-run. she said he came into her hotel

and met with angel families and said to the media, you have ignored these families too long, not anymore. do it again, bring families around you and put faces on this national tragedy. >> emily: harris, i make this point often and well made. don rosenburg, the father of his poor son killed by an illegal immigrant wrote to congress and said reference nancy pelosi's comments, she said parents torn from their children and spouses ripped from loved ones. she was talking about ice stepping in and conducting raids. she made the point illegal immigrants that they posed no threat. don rosenburg said the one who killed my son had no criminal record. had he been deported for the crime illegally entering this country. it is explained, everyone is

innocent, putting recidivism to the side to tackle that point you say and i appreciate it and don tried to make to congress. lawmakers say you are ripping away families. what about families here being ripped away from their dead loved ones. >> harris: if you break the law to get into this country, why wouldn't you continue to do that. many of these people were minors when they crossed the border. 15, 16 years old. we just had an incident, a tourist got shot and the suspect is 15 years old, his mother nearby, he was running with a mob of people staying in a shelter on west side of new york. they are here illegally. it is not like you can't find

them and deport them, which is what obama did. democrats did not like that, we might need it now. when you break the law that breaks our sovereignty, it is a crime, send them back. >> emily: tammy, final question, it is hard to compile statistics people argue. we don't know. it is a very few illegal immigrants, government accountability office does. last report 2018, it does reflect a substantial and alarming amount of violent crimes. question remains, where are latest statistics? isn't one more enough? wasn't the first one enough? >> tammy: the reports will condemn what they have been doing and i would argue when they say someone hasn't had criminal history, we don't know their history before they crossed the border and use of

gangs of minors specifically -- >> harris: tammy, breaking news gives us new topic to talk about on the other side. senate majority leader minority leader ranking member in senate, mcconnell will step down from his post in november and we know he is longest serving senate leader in history, maintained power in face of convulsions in the party for two decades. let's not ignore the stuff on the other side and happening now. i'm reading from the associated press. it is written with interesting color. mcconnell just turned 82 last week. set to announce his decision today in well of the senate, place he looked in awe, from back benches in 1985, and where

he grew comfortable in front-row seat afforded by party leaders. mitch mcconnell is stepping down and will leave his job in november. he has taken a lot of heat lately, some over deals that republicans particularly in house have not agreed upon. this latest round on the border, which originally had aid for ukraine, 60 plus billion, it had money for other countries like israel and hamas war, so on and so forth. it only had a smaller amount, not even third of what was going to ukraine for u.s. border and it was a border bill. now what were the conversations like that got republicans and senate to point where that would be under discussion? republicans in the house sent hr 2. jason, you were leadership for

republicans in the house, chairman of the oversight committee, been on the hill. what does his departure mean in november? >> jason: he will be widely applauded for leadership and contributions, particularly in shepherding in conservative justices. i think he lead that effort and if you look at the make-up of the supreme court mostly under trump. this is the right move. republicans need new leadership, i think he is making it at the right time. i appreciate mitch mcconnell for signalling he was going to endorse donald trump. it is no secret the two did not get along, but to come together to fight to win the presidency for republican party is interesting move. >> harris: interesting, too, staying through november.

>> jason: that makes sense. >> harris: talk about the heat mcconnell felt recently. >> tammy: he had public elth issues and americans are thinking we need change. trump's popularity is indication that americans are tired of status quo, he represents that, arguments from democrats and republican side about age, that is not always issue. it is associated problems. he kept merrick garland off the supreme court. when he hasn't used his power to do things that were right, we still have immigration issues and economic issues and budget issues, the dumb fight between him and trump, the american people are having a say and i think clearly for a variety of reasons, this is the correct

move. >> emily: it is interesting, 82 years old and when you look at news surrendering him lately, about wrestling with possible endorsement. there are reports he and speaker johnson's nudging about the ukraine bill. people were righting about apex, will he have to eat your hat and endorse him and could that be palatable? question remains as you analyze why that might have a lot to do with it. he felt it was impossible to do. they have not spoken since 20twen and been acmoanuous in public. >> kayleigh: there has been reporting about the acrimony between him and president trump. interesting this comes on heels

of that. legacy to jason's point, he will be remembered for and touted that for first time in 40 years not a single vacancy, he did a lot in that regard. we must look forward to who succeeds him and politico said we don't know who will succeed him, his name is john, either john cornyn or john thune. interesting to see. clearly trying to remain in step with the republican base. >> harris: now learning that senator mitch mcconnell will make remarks 13 seconds from now. we'll see if he's on time. i'll ask the team in our control room if we have a shot of the lectern where he will walk to? jason you were talking about inevitability of this in terms of where he is with his career

and what he might want to do other than politics. >> jason: he's been a fixture. i was in high school, it's been a while. he has lost his step and had health issues, it is time for natural transition, you have to make sure you don't give up that seat too soon. makeup of senate, you don't want to give up that boat. lame duck session is always nefarious stuff happening. >> harris: leaving in november. >> jason: this is where they need to clarify, maybe leaving the post as minority leader, not leaving senate as senator. >> harris: ap report doesn't say that. >> jason: just saying that is a question. how they elect and put in a new

senator is different from house members. >> harris: right. quoting mitch mcconnell, i stand before you today to say this will be my last term as republican leader in the senate. great point. coming right back, we are covering breaking news right here on "outnumbered." t reagan

revolution. truth is when i got here, i was just happy if anybody remembered my name. president reagan called me mitch o'donnell, close enough, i thought. my wife elaine and i got married on president reagan's birthday,

february 6, probably not the most romantic thing to admit, but reagan meant a lot to both of us. for 31 years, elaine has been the love of my life and i'm eternally grateful to have her by my side. i think back to my first days in the senate with deep appreciation. time that helped shape my view of the world. i'm unconflicted about the good within our country and irreplaceable role we play as the leader of the free world. it is why i work so hard to get national security package passed earlier this month. believe me, i know the politics within my party at this

particular moment in time. i have many faults. understanding politics is not one of them. that said, i believe more strongly than ever that americans global leadership is essential to preserving the shining city on the hill that ronald reagan discussed. as long as i'm drawing breath on this earth, i will defend american exceptionalism. as i've been thinking about when i would deliver news to the senate, i always imagine a moment when i had total clarity and peace about the sunset of my work. a moment when i'm certain i have helped preserve the ideals i strongly believe.

that day arrived today. my goals when i was narrowly elected back in 1984, were fairly modest. do a good job for people of kentucky and convince them by doing so they might rehire me for a second term. that was it, that was the plan. if you would have told me 40 years later that i would stand before you as longest serving senate leader in american history frankly i would have thought you lost your mind. i have the honor of representing kentucky and senate longer than anyone else in our state's history. i never could have imagined, never could have imagined that happening. when i arrived here in 1984 at 42. i'm filled with heart-felt gratitude and humility for the

opportunity. but now it is 2024, i'm now 82. as ecclesiastes tells us, there is a season. to serve has been the honor of my life, to lead my republican colleagues has been the highest privilege. but one of life's most underappreciated talents is to know when it is time to move on to life's next chapter. i stand before you today, mr. president and my colleagues to say this will be my last term as republican leader of the senate. i'm not going anywhere any time

soon. however, i'll complete my job, my colleagues have given me until we select a new leader in november and they take the helm next january. i'll finish the job people of kentucky hired me to do, as well, albeit from a different seat. and i'm actually looking forward to that. so it is time for me to think about another season. i love the senate and my life. there may be more distinguished members of this body throughout history, i doubt there were any with any more admiration for the senate. after all this time, i still get a thrill walking into the capitol and especially on this

floor knowing that we, each of us, have the honor to represent our states and do the important work of our country. but father time remains undefeated. i'm no longer the young man sitting in the back hoping colleagues will remember my name. it is time for next generation of leadership. henry clay said in this body in 1850, the constitution of the united states was not made merely for generation that then existed, but for posterity, unlimited, undefined, endless, perpetual, posterity. so time rolls on. there will be a new custodian of

this great institution next year. won't surprise you to know i intend to turn this job over to a republican majority leader. i have full confidence in my confidence to choose my replacement and lead our country forward. it will be other times to reminisce, i'm immensely proud of accomplishments i've played some role in obtaining for the american people. today is not the day to discuss all of that. as i said earlier, i'm not going anywhere any time soon. there are many challenges remust meet to deliver for the american people and each will have my full effort and attention. i still have enough gas in my tank to thoroughly disappoint my critics and i intend to do so

with all enthusiasm with which they have become accustomed. so to my colleagues, thank you for entrusting me with our suc success. been an honor to work with each of you. there will be plenty time to express my gratitude in greater detail as i sprint to the finish line, which is now in sight. i yield the floor. [applause] >> harris: we thought we would stick with that for a few seconds as they gave a round of applause after a beautiful speech on the senate floor. we learned today, maybe he's been thinking about that for a little while.

his words were touching. he will be in the post as ranking leader, if you will, minority leader of republicans in the senate until november. will remain on the job for his term, serving people of his home state as a senator, he will sit in a different seat. we were looking it up on the couch, he will go until 2026, he would be 84 years old. he turned 82 last week. i want to go live to chad pergram on capitol hill with more. i can only imagine, just a few minutes before you told fox to watch out, 13 seconds or something, as i said on the air. what has talk been like on the hill? he must have talked about this, associated press interviewed him

before this. >> chad: this was a shockwave, one of the senators who might try to succeed him, john cornyn emerged from the meeting and said he had not heard anything about it three or four minutes before mitch mcconnell took the floor. the reason being mitch mcconnell is longest serving party leader as majority leader, minority leader in all time for the senate. no one served as long as he has. think about stalwarts like robert bird and mitch mcconnell o outlasted all of them and he quoted the book of ecclesiastes, always a time and season for everything, it is time for me to move on. keep in mind, mitch mcconnell, there have been people calling for him to step aside? republican ranks. you often hear me say it is

about math, a little writing was on the wall a week or so ago, when they passed that sup elemental international aid package for ukraine and taiwan. he was unable to get a majority of his conference to vote yes. he didn't have attrition and challenge by rick scott? fall of 2022, last time they had a leadership election. we believe and don't know what the vote was, about 10 republicans defected there. that number has been increasing and look at number like that and health issues he had last year, that is something whispered around capitol hill maybe he is getting long in the tooth and can no longer lead. what this reminds me of and i invoked robert bird, democratic senator, he stepped away from leadership, in quite a long time as majority leader and minority

leader and he served in the senate for another 22 years. he had health issues. this is similar to robert bird. >> harris: i want clarity, jason chaffetz and i were talking. when this was reported, he would stay until november. i want clarity around when he would leave and what happens in the interim? >> you have election in the fall and both parties have their conference or caucus election. which side is in majority or minority. democrats will meet and probably re- elect chuck schumer. then you have this leadership race, usually in late november around thanksgiving after that election this fall and the three people are john cornyn, from texas. you have john berroso and john

thune. we have only had majority and minority leader in the senate since early part of the 20th century. voters will dictate which party is in the majority. a couple years ago it lasted into january. >> harris: we appreciate you joining "outnumbered" and giving the facts. you are nearby and can feel the emotions. we appreciate it. thank you. how is the senate changed over the years? what is different about leadership position for mitch mcconnell right now than say four years ago? >> jason: senate is based on tradition and seniority. i don't think it is foregone

conclusion john cornyn or john thune gets there. if senator tim scott is not nominated vice president, he will be mentioned, j.d. vance, marco rubio. >> harris: it will not look like what it did in the house going 15 rounds? >> they will settle this. growing number of younger senators don't think you should get to your leadership position based on seniority alone. that change took place first in the house and now in the united states senate. >> harris: both parties dealing with this, the commander-in-chief is dealing with this issue. he said he would run one term and pass the baton and now wants another bite. we are watching day-by-day, is that a good idea?

>> tammy: november election and result of what happens in summer and political arguments will affect this clearly. depends what happens to senate, it is old crew that votes in new leadership for the new crew, they have to recognize if new president is donald trump, this is all hands on deck dynamic. we need everyone to come together and got to be a leader who can do that and doesn't see senate as opposition force to the new republican president. then the country is at stake. it is about following intention and attitude of the american people and what it is happening to the country and around the world, who will have strength to get all hands on deck? >> harris: senator marsha blackburn said they are concentrating on taking the senate. they lost most majority after the last election.

what are your thoughts what that could look like? >> kayleigh: last best opportunity, seats up for reelection, difficult for next decade for republicans to win, this is cycle and looking good. we will see. i want to play mitch mcconnell in appropriate context. he does not get enough credit. it is hard to keep a caucus together, we see that in the house, he did so. ap noted while critics grew more vocal, they did not grow [inaudible] -- that is number one. number two, most importantly, if you are ideological conservative, you are thrilled with overturning of roe v. wade and religious freedom and this man held off merrick garland from taking that senate seat and person who got barrett through.

this man in partnership with donald trump did it. secondly, biggest takeaway is recognizing when your moment has ended. i'm 82 years old, the end happened sooner than i prefer. he talked about ronald reagan and last words, but father time remains undefeated, i'm no longer the young man sitting in the back hoping colleagues will remember my name. for that, he should be given great respect. guy sitting at pennsylvania avenue who might take a lesson. >> harris: joining us by phone is martha maccallum. you were watching this, we knew eventually that this time would come. it does for everybody. his words were so remarkable and he really put everything he had into this speech. he broke up and cried a couple times. it was palpable his departure.

>> martha: indeed, mitch mcconnell has been a force in the senate for decades. i've had pleasure of sitting down with him many times. he is very much the old-school epitome of senatorial process and execution and he spoke beautifully today as he has many times in the past. we've all noticed, sitting with several screens in front of us, he pops up on the senate floor and starts to speak, everyone turns up the volume, you want to hear what mitch mcconnell has to say. he's had a complicated relationship with former president donald trump, that is no secret. we're looking at a near future where it appears the former president becomes the presidential nominee again. and the rnc looks like if

approved by 168 majority rnc representatives, it will have a trump prompter on it. this was coming to a head, i think, between likely future candidate for republican party and senate leader and they have had a very difficult relationship. one of the most moving speeches he gave about his thoughts on january 6. separately from all of that, in his personal life, he's had some medical episodes recently and he is getting on in years. harris, we all do and he decided this is his time to move on. >> harris: politics, kayleigh reminded us, she was press secretary, what they accomplished together. we know as we get older, there is an amazing way we find value in one another and will open our

hearts. i don't think it will be permanents, they accomplished a lot, martha. >> martha: they did. their greatest legacy, as you were discussing is the mark that was made on the supreme court with neil gorsuch, amy comey barrett and brett kavanaugh. there were reports earlier today in the hill that trump's campaign manager and josh holmes, who has been mitch mcconnell's top political adviser, had been in talks. maybe there would be an endorsement, what this says about talks will come out in time. clearly this was a moment and really talks a lot as i say about the rnc, who is republican party of the future and clearly

standard bearer is donald trump and has been since 2015. although there are divisions within the republican party, there are decisions about where movement and momentum is and i think this is part of a basket of decisions mitch mcconnell made. clearly not the only issue, in that basket. >> harris: some will be personal. they are personal. martha maccallum, thank you, we'll be watching "the story." bring in jacqui heinrich. where is she, is she at the white house? clearly you are, give an update from there. >> we've reached out to the white house to glean whether the president got a heads up on this. yesterday you had big four congressional leaders meeting with the president, he was trying to make the case about

need to push ukraine aid forward and get the government funded and legislative battles on the hill. they were in the same room, we don't know if biden got a heads up from mcconnell, we know they have had a long relationship. biden was in the senate 36 years, not been on same side of many issues at all and maintained respect for each other. whenever one or the other had a health issue or a family problem, they always were sharing words of support and condolences and had a professional relationship certainly. this will be an interesting change for biden, rest of his administration not to have a republican in senate leadership that he has that long- standing relationship with. this is someone who he has been able to reach agreements on critical issues and they see eye to eye on issues like ukraine

and have forged a path forward against stronger voices in their respective parties. this will be change for sure for the white house legislative team and who they deal with and call when they need to get something done. >> harris: you are saying part of the reason why people in the senate who are younger and maybe newer and fresher might have wanted a change. it is not something you can ignore when you start to talk about a traditional relationship with democrats at time when the nation is so divided. jacqui heinrich outside the white house, i'm sure we'll check with you when we get examination of the pop-up, unannounced physical exam for the presidential walter reed. he's back home in the people's house. emily. >> emily: i'm struck that there were absolutely no leaks, when you scroll media pages, minutes

prior to the announcement, all coverage of mitch mcconnell on potential endorsement and impact on the ukraine agreement. sort of surprising lack of leak for once. note senator tillis called mitch mcconnell a true legend, we are seeing legends step down, nick saban and bill belichick. with stepping down of this true legend, question remains, look to future of senate as coagulated family moving forward that represents the future of the american republican party will we see succession of leaders. will it be like al davis where we've seen a million head coaches, no one could last. as we evaluate the three johns,

the question will remain, doo people see longevity or a struck match and i say with all due we'll be sorry to see his leadership end. >> harris: it's such a great question. what do they need is the answer to the question. so, what do they need in the senate right now? >> in part, what they need is somebody that can articulate the vision because today's modern communications, they have changed and you need a strong voice. we need a speaker who can speak. we need a majority leader that can make the case. you can't just leave that all to the hands of a president and i think process matters. process does matter. again, a wonderful eloquent speech and he will be fondly remembered and he achieved things nobody else achieved. his longevity says a lot about the respect he had from his colleagues, even though there

was frustration, he still accomplished so much and the legacy on the supreme court will last for generations. >> harris: my dad the colonel used to say what protects your legacy -- >> kayleigh: you need to articulate the case but need to know the process, procedures of the senate, the only way he managed to get so many judges through. i don't think you can leave a discussion of mitch mcconnell without numbers, three trade judges, 174 district court judges, 54 circuit court judges and three supreme court judges. breakdown of the court, six appointed by republican, and three by democrats. without the man you are looking at the numb can be reversed, and beyond roe v. wade, abortion

until birth, and covid, we were losing on religious liberty, you can't pray in your home in california, can't have more than a certain number. barrett comes on the court, it shifts. and imagine without constitution loving justices. >> harris: a busy hour of breaking news. a couple things we'll be watching for, obviously as all the reaction on capitol hill to the announcement that the minority leader of the senate, leader of republicans is going to step down, mitch mcconnell, will stay on as senator and on the record under oath behind closed doors between the oversight committee in the house and the president's son hunter biden. all of it on fox news. stay glued. "america reports" now. >> i stand before you today, mr. president, and my colleagues