tomorrow. today is wednesday. we have a new podcast out. it's an interesting discussion with veteran political analyst doug schroen with his predictions for what he think will happen in the debate on wednesday. tune in to that. it's available at foxnewspodcasts.com. see you tomorrow. have a great evening. stay well. see you thursday. ♪ >> neil: well, you say it's your birthday. the white house celebrating the signing of the inflation reduction act a year ago today. how time flies. what the administration is whooping it up, americans are still paying up. shelling out $700 more a month than they did two years ago. paying more for things like food, gas and mortgages.

the president admits the act with a lot of green goodies could have gone by a different name. what are they celebrating? like i said, the inflation reduction act didn't bring inflation down. today we look at what and specifically who did. prices are down, but price hikes still are not. and a key interest rated just closed at a 15-year high. let's go to jacqui heinrich at the white house on the fast-moving developments on who gets credit and whether it's a birthday debby down to say it's not the white house when it comes to inflation or this inflation reduction act. jacqui? >> hi, neil. yeah, we got out of the east room where the president held the 1-year anniversary celebration. it was a classic joe biden event. he whispered at one point, yelled at another point. he said the inflation reduction acted is working. he called it a key part of bidenomics, touting jobs creation, specifically in

manufacturing and new investments in climate, even though he didn't get in to the fact that now the estimate of what that will cost is triple what we were told this would go through. that was $385 billion. now new estimates could be somewhere of 1.04 trillion or so. as you mentioned, the new analysis showing that the inflation that has come down has nothing to do with the inflation reduction act. if the president wants to celebrate this, still has major work to do turning down attitudes about the economy heading in to 2024. a new cnn poll shows 51% of americans believe the economy is in a downturn and still heading south. then you also had biden with a 37% approval rating on his handling of the economy. it goes to 30% on his handling of inflation. the white house does not seem to

be planning any new messaging scheme for this. take a listen. >> polls keep showing that people are broadly unhappy with the president's handling of inflation in particular. the president has said he wished he didn't call this the inflation reduction act. what should you call it? >> he said following that sentiment because i think it's a complicated bill. we have already seen costs coming down for consumers on the healthcare side through utility rebates on the energy side. >> at one point about this to keep following is the administration touts the prescription drug negotiating part of the ira is one of the most popular provisions of this plan. right now it's the subject of a barrage of lawsuits. there's a risk that this could end up going the way of the student loan forgiveness plan and getting killed in the courts basically. i asked karine jean-pierre how confident the why house is this

will hold firm, especially through the election season. she tells fox we're confident this will succeed in the courts and nothing that prevents medicare from negotiating lower drug prices. that is one piece we'll continue to follow. >> neil: thanks, jacqui. go to gary kaltbaum, brilliant market watcher that knows a thing or two about birthdays. he's had a few, a young man. this one-year anniversary we're celebrating on the inflation reduction act didn't reduce inflation. i have a feeling the federal reserve and all the rate hikes did or at least got it down a little bit more. it would be a first for government spending to bring inflation down. what did you think? >> yeah, it was also the stopping of printing money that helped bring it down. neil, there is no better arbiter of inflation than the bond market itself. the ten-year yield is a touching a yearly high while inflation comes down. it's at a 15-year high right

now. so i'd be very careful what said out of d.c. -- >> martha: i don't want to jump on you. what you mentioned was so significant. you're looking at the yield on a ten-year treasury note or bond now around 4.25%. it's not been this high in 15 years. that's the market's interpretation of prices that remain stubbornly high. economic activity that remains strong. so there's that part of it. strong enough to keep rates prohibitively high, mortgages well north of 7%. what do you think of that? >> and credit cards are at a record high, interest rates. credit card usage just hit a record. so there's so many things that are potentially negative to watch right now. as i was saying, all of this talk from somebody in d.c. or even a government staff, it really doesn't tell you what is really happening on the ground or in people's wallets or in their pockets. again, i think i've said this to you a few times before. just look at the chart of

savings rates. look at chart of credit card usage. they have gone opposite. i just don't flow that can last too much longer. the other thing, the job market, as long as it stays strong, if we lose the job market, we have big problems going forward consumer-wise, which we're told is 70% of the economy. >> neil: the fact of the matter, stops have been steady as she goes. the administration likes to crow about that. 13 million jobs gained. you've been wondering about how durable that is and whether that momentum is slowing. we'll see exactly how it sorts out. obviously we talked about this inflation reduction acted and how it was sold. it was a pretty bold title a year ago. that really wasn't what it was all about. we found out that it was all about green and climate change progress and charts and all of that stuff that had to do with that. very little to make prices come down. so when this was designed, the long gave the federal reserve,

central banks all over the world, were aggressively hiking rates. started back then. that is what has put a dent in inflation now. the dent is not done, is it? >> i don't think even close. certainly didn't help recently that oil prices went up in six weeks. even though it's back down to 79. the other part, neil and you mentioned it, it wasn't the inflation reduction act. it's the gargantuan government increase act that this year -- >> neil: that doesn't have quite the same appeal. >> this year, neil, the growth of government from 2019 to this year is going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 1.6 to $2 trillion. it's going to be all debt. that's the sin of all of this. you want inflation? that's where you're going to get it from. i saw that jacqui heinrich was

interviewing john podesta. he was dolling out money for climate. you want inflation? doll out that type of money from the taxpayer, create massive deficits as far as the eyes can see? you'll get inflation. you'll get higher interest rates and then look out. >> when you look at price hikes, inflation, you've been seeing it all over the place. the administration says it's not as bad as it was. it's still bad. we still have a lot of prices at all-time highs. you talk about borrowing costs. they're at 15-year highs. that is inflationary in and of itself. >> cost of capitol throughout the food chain from the consumer, to small business, to medium size, to big business, to raise debt it cost more to borrow, it cost more. everything down the pipe. that's where profits come in. that's where markets come in. is there any thought process here that the financials are

getting wrecked right now again off of interest rates going to this high. citi group is back to the lows where it was when silicon valley debacle hit. these are things i'm watching closely. i really do believe it's on which way interest rates are going and if the ten-year yield start going 4 1/2 or higher, that's the fed probably having to adjust even higher than they think on their end. >> neil: right. the interpretation could be to your point, the fed will realize, if things are percolating, we have to keep hiking. we can't afford to pause. next month is a meeting that that write previously considering doing that. thanks, gary. good seeing you. >> thanks. >> neil: the power rankings are out here at fox. they're very revealing. you know the guy running away with it, the former president. there's another guy that you probably wouldn't have expected. he's surging big time after this.

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>> neil: hard to believe that is one week away. it all goes down in milwaukee. alexis mcadams in des moines, iowa where there's a heated contest going on and momentum including these new power rankings that we have put together. some revealing numbers, alexis. what do you have? >> hi, neil. yeah, that's right. we've seen the candidates out here in des moines working hard to try to get iowans on their side, that includes tim scott who tonight is breaking in the top three in the fox news power rankings. i asked him why he's moving up the polls. he said because it's common sense conservative policies. listen. >> you think you can move up in

the rankings? >> the good news, we continue to move up. i'm not spending time watching polls. i spend my time watching people. i'm getting to know the average person in the state even better. so far so good. i expect our momentum will increase every day. >> tonight donald trump remains the clear frontrunner, neil. the former. leading by 30 to 40 points in most of the national possible followed by ron desantis in second place. the florida governor is the main alternative to trump. in most national polls, tim scott is a distant third but the only candidate to poll double digit support in more than one state. so we know campaign fund-raising is key to winning these races. trump is pulling in $54 million in the first half of the year. ron desantis is getting money from large individual donors, one who is getting cold feet. a didn't story for tim scott who

had more than 53,000 unique donors that have given around $200 a pop. scott moved over $22 million from his senate campaign giving him lots of cash on hand. he's focused on spending big bucks on tv ads in iowa and new hampshire. vivek ramaswamy and nikki haley and mike pence are listed as in the conversation. we saw trump, desantis and scott really working the crowds and the voters are paying attention. >> they pay attention to what is going on in the national campaign and pay attention to the national polls. at the end of the day, it comes down to what the voters think is best for their state and their country. >> everyone except donald trump continues to remind voters that it's still early here in this presidential run. but it's not going to be early for too long. first it's thanksgiving and then christmas and before you know it, it's caucus time in iowa.

>> neil: thanks, alexis mcadams in iowa. jay, we always look to get a sense of earth-moving and maybe some numbers adjusting and tim scott is getting some of that attention. he surged to the point of being the one to watch and that doesn't mean the others are not. what do you make of the early power ranking read? >> it makes a lot of sense. i think a couple of points to bear in mind. for starters, iowa winners in the last three caucuses have all broken relatively late. cruz, huckabee and, iowa

used to be we know from jimmy carter the launching pad of successful candidacy that came back in 1976 out of nowhere. now of course with this contest, it didn't work out well for ted cruz. he won the state. he wasn't able to capitalize that and eventually failed in new hampshire and frittered away. we know on the democratic side, when barack obama surprised hillary clinton in 2008, he wasn't able to carry that in new hampshire. the battle would drag out in to the spring for the democratic nomination. it's not what it was in iowa. but could it be this time? in other words, if tim scott does well, could he take that momentum and pick up steam? >> i think so. i think something to bear in mind about both parties with the republican party, the first two states are very different. iowa and new hampshire are very different. it's not uncommon for them to offer different verdicts.

when they do, often times it ends up being south carolina that is the tiebreaker. so for instance, in 2000, you saw george w. bush win the iowa caucus and john mccain won the new hampshire primary. went to south carolina. that's one of the big reasons that i would not sleep on tim scott. if he manages to win in iowa and it goes to south carolina as a tiebreaker, guess who is the junior senator from south carolina? >> neil: well-put. jay, i'm curious where the money guys go. everyone is changing perceived momentum based on polling. that can change. there's a period that i remember in the 2008 race where it looked like john mccain wasn't going anywhere and all of a sudden he righted his ship and he was the republican nominee and lost to barack obama. but snapshots are just that. ones snapped, they're shot. what could we be missing here? >> well, i think something bear in mind especially this early on

is not to get too hung up on the polls especially for people like tim scott. i think beyond that, one of the key metrics that i look at and one of the reasons why i think there's room in the same orbit as desantis as you guys have defined that is sort of in the contention spot is because desantis has been burning through a lot of his cash. desantis' fund-raising looked good. but when you look under the hood, he spent a lot of money on staff and private travel. questions remain about his cash flow. tim scott, on the other hand, he's on the air already. an undersold thing about tim scott, when he ran for re-election in south carolina, he created a massive small donor fund-raising network. i don't think it's been fully activated yet. as you said, you have to see the poll numbers rise up. if he breaks out, that network of small donors that he's created could be something. >> neil: it could be.

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>> neil: any minute, any hour, any day, could be sooner than all of the above, we'll hear from new jersey whether a judge thinks that parents should be notified if their child wants to switch genders. let's get the story from nate foy in new jersey with more. nate? >> hi, neil. all the judge would say is a ruling should come shortly.

returning that minute by minute. as parents await that decision, the vice president of the new jersey board of education tells fox news today that he hopes the judge will recognize parental rights. >> i mean, any poor child that is expressing as trans, they need love and guidance. the parents are best suited to that. to think the state will step in and decide that they'll handle that? it's wrong. >> neil, another state regulation passed two weeks ago allowing students to take sex education classes based on their gender identity, not their biological sex. so a biological boy could take a girl's sex ed class. that's why we saw about 100 parents at yesterday's hearing. the state argues transgender kids will be at risk. but school board policies believe that they will have the opposite effect. >> we've heard the best way to prevent teen suicide is through parental involvement. at what point do we become the

guardians over children. >> a statement from the new jersey attorney general's office reads in part, the new policies violate new jersey's law against discrimination. one of the strongest civil rights law in the nation. listen to this. >> that type of issue will come up in a 5-year-old. >> what if it does? >> if it does, i think that we have -- i think the guidelines that exist at the time, you know, will cover that. >> whatever the judge decides will be in effect when school starts in these three districts in just three weeks. back to you, neil. >> neil: wow. all right. nate, thank for that. want to go to john yoo on this. u.c. berkeley law professor, former justice thomas law clerk. one thing i don't understand,

what is wrong with notifying a parent if his or her child wants to switch genders? they're way under age in a lot of these cases. you'd think it obvious that they should be notified. but in the case of the attorney general of the state, the policies violate, forcing this issue violates the issue of nonbinary and transgender students. what do you make of that? >> neil, i think your instinct is the right one. this actually came up during the abortion wars where i think it was pennsylvania actually required that if someone under age minor was having an abortion, that their parents should be notified. the supreme court, if i recall correctly upheld a provision as long as it didn't allow the parents to make the final medical decision. i expect that new jersey school boards must have parental

notification without more will survive under the law. this is really just kind of shadowboxing over the real issue which they're fighting against. can a state either forbid children from getting this kind of surgery on these kinds of puberty blocking drugs or can state prevent parents from interfering with a child's decision. this new jersey case is just a shadowboxing a deeper issue, which will have to go to the supreme court sooner or later. >> you know, teachers come and go. the teachers might keep the secret with the child. we're not going to say a thing to your parents. do this. we encourage you to do this if this is how you feel. but they go, the parents are permanent. there's something screwed up about that. >> yeah, parental rights cut both ways. so the supreme court has long recognized over 100 years that

this constitution protects the rights of parents to make fundamental decisions about the upbringing of their children, where they should go to school, what they should learn, what language they should be taught. at the same time, parents of transgender children say that i have the right to make the decisions for my child. parents should be fundamentally involved with this choice but it doesn't really cut it clearly one way or the other in the transgender debate. >> neil: it is confusing to put it mildly. if i could switch gears. we know mark meadows wants to take this fulton county case and have it adjudicated in a federal court. for all i know, president trump could prefer the same. where do you think this is going and what are the arguments for each? >> meadows has a pretty good claim. there's a law passed by congress

long ago that says if a state tries to prosecute a federal officer for what they did in their official duties, you can get that case out of the state court and take it to federal court. doesn't mean the case is over. it means you get a federal judge as your forum and a federal jury which would be better for meadows than a georgia state court. the problem is that won't help most of the other defendants in that georgia indictment because most of those were not federal officers. they were working for the campaign. this is even tougher yet. president trump, at times he's acting as the president of the united states and enforcing the laws. he would be the officer pro texted by this. what about when president trump is running as a candidate? i expect fani willis will say my indictment of the campaign and trump and all of these people is about trump when he's acting as a private citizen. if that is true and the courts agree, then trump won't be able

to remove. might only be meadows that can benefit from this statute in the end. the second thing is, this is really shadowboxing over a bigger issue, should any state d.a. be able to prosecute any president no matter what? does this mean some red d.a. state will bring charges against joe biden or hunter biden? >> neil: there's four cases involving 91 different charges right now. the president and his legal folks want to make sure that these are pushed as far back as they possibly can. i was talking to a number of legal analysts earlier on fox business, which if you don't get you should demand, but one of the things that these lawyers were mentioning to me is inconceivable that any of these go to trial before the election. do you agree with that? >> i think it's very hard to see this georgia case going to trial. the d.a. here has said i want all the defendants, 18 or 19 of them, including trump, all the way down to people to be there

at the same time for all the proceedings. i can't see how that will get done. the narrow ones and this is what jack smith was aiming for with the mar-a-largo classified documents and the january 6th case is so that he could keep it narrow to rush it through before the election. it will be hard. whoever those legal analysts that have been talking to other than me, i agree with them. a lot of these cases will have to wait. >> neil: you're no good company. john yoo, the former assistants attorney general. tell me this is not bodacious. the chinese hacking a u.s. congressman who sits on the house armed services, that is cold that congressman is next.

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we know that china likes to hack folks. when you go after someone who sits on the house armed services committee and influential in national security affairs, you're changing the fighting game a little bit, to put it mildly. nebraska republican don bacon was indeed hacked informed by the fbi that it happened and a chinese communist party was behind that breach. sir, how did you find out? >> first, thanks for having me on. i had an initial indication in june when microsoft sent me a cryptic note saying that i may have been hacked, change your password. i didn't know if it was true or not. maybe it was a hoax. i did change my password. there was an indicator something was going on. monday, i got a call from the fbi, which you hear the fbi wants to talk to you, it gets your attention. the fbi cyber team said they

were notifying me that the chinese government hacked my e-mail from 15 may to 16 june. they used a vulnerability in the microsoft software. the microsoft team patched me june 16. i schedule them if there's anything that i did that made that more vulnerable or opened a door somehow. they said no, it was a vulnerability. so i asked did anybody else get hacked. they said yes. it was mainly state department folks and commerce department leaders that were hacked. to my knowledge, i think i'm the on congress person that was hacked, which is interesting in its own right. why was i selected out of the group? >> neil: you're a powerful influential figure. what is bizarre about this, far from getting cowed by these revelations, the chinese up the ante and expand not only hacking incidents but bold economic ones

as well. that shove it back in our face and start monitoring guys like you and those in the state department. they've gone after u.s. utilities. they have the wherewithal to do a lot, a lot of scary stuff. what do you think they're up to? >> they are very bold. on one hand, they want to tell the biden administration, the state department, everything is normal. treat us like everything is good. let's just feel good about each other. meanwhile, they're stealing our technology, they're stealing our intellectual property, hacking in to the defense computers, getting personal information from folks. tons of data -- >> neil: congressman, i don't want to sound like a novel here, but obviously they would need help in doing that. there would have to be someone on the u.s. side fostering that or opening this process up and allowing them to do what they

did to you and to so many others. do you expect there's a ring here doing just that? >> no. i was a 30-year intelligence officers in the air force. they don't need inside people to do this. cyber intelligence, they can do that from china and they have very -- >> neil: even applying to you, sir and your committee work? even going in to the state department, the defense department? you'd think there's another level or another rung that would make that more cumbersome to do from around the world. >> in this case, it's my personal e-mail, not my work e-mail. it was my political e-mail that they hacked. there was these extra barriers put out there. you're right. probably more barriers for state department and the commerce department. but the fact is, they have the capabilities to do this from china and they have tried to

find a weakness, chinks in the armor in our cyber defenses and they're very good at it. so is russia. as a commander at ramstein, off an air force base, someone that served in iraq, i always assumed that it is possible that my phone is being listened in to and my e-mails are being read. i know they're that good. >> neil: it's amazing to me. it is what it is to your point. just keeps going on. congressman, thanks very much for joining us. more importantly for your incredible service. we appreciate all of it. all right. in the meantime, the latest images coming in from maui and a death toll a that has surpassed 106 at latest count. indications it's not where near over. oh booking.com, ♪ i'm going to somewhere, anywhere. ♪ ♪ a beach house, a treehouse, ♪ ♪ honestly i don't care ♪ find the perfect vacation rental for you

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>> neil: heard someone on air renering to the damage in maui looking like a different planet. they used to say that for it's beauty. the latest from william la jeunesse in how they're trying to get to the bottom of what happened and to make things better. >> neil, the circuits here are overloaded and jammed. everyone is going in right now,

and i'll do my best to bring you up to speed. the search for a victims and a search for answers. survivors are wondering, assessing their lives and their future. >> it's very hard to see this. all my life is all gone in minutes. >> it's not just me that lost everything. everybody. everything is gone. >> this is the absolute worst disaster i have ever seen. it's carnage. everything is burned. people had no time to get out of the way. >> so they have about 100 recovery teams here and 50 cadaver dogs working a again, sifting through the rubble looking for jewelry, bones,

teeth, anything that dna could be pulled from. so far police have obtained dna from 14 victims and 42 relatives that gave a swab. so they believe or if they believe they had some relative that may have been lost in the fire. >> i share 50% dna with my parents. with my brother. i share 25% dna with my aunt or uncle. so by taking relative sample, running it against a sample from remains, we can look at the level of relatedness and identify the sample in that manner. >> so the video here was shot by a man in lahaina. he watched downed power lines outside his house literally catch fire and a brush fire and the wind started and it just got worse. >> i hear a pop coming from across the street. as soon as i hear the pop, all i heard is electrical like bzz

going on the ground there. i look, there's a power line right there. >> now, while the state is scrambling to find hotels and basically any kind of condos or vacation rentals, we found two gentlemen who found refuge in vans that were donated to them by a tour company. >> i slept many my truck for this. it's so nice to get in a van and stretch out, have a semi sense of normalcy. >> so two interesting things, neil. i don't know if you can see me or not. number 1, the governor said yesterday that he's not allowing predatory developers from the mainland and also the economy is tanking right now as resorts are going down, there's no money. a restaurant had to cancel a shift. they want people to go to the parts of the island that do have plenty of rooms and yet the

exception is that the entire island burned and that is nowhere near the case. back to you. >> neil: just remarkable. thank you for that, william la jeunesse. let's go to rick reichmuth, meteorologist. this is, obviously, rick, going to be a herculean task to make things right. they're still battling with weather. >> they still haven't had moisture. the drought that has been there, one of the ingredients that sparked these fires, no real relief for that. the winds are lower than they have been on the north side of the idea, maybe more. the west side, west side are not that bad. this is rain through friday. wind on the winward sides. you get that almost every day. it's the leeward side that don't get that and unfortunately no relief coming except maybe -- this is what is happening in the pacific. this is a tropical storm out there. not expecting any negative impacts from this storm but it could bring 5, 6 weeks from now

some increased moisture in the area. that would be helpful. want to take you through the rest of the tropics. there's a lot going on including in the pacific, this is tropical storm hillary. the track of this one is interesting. we'll see this storm strengthen rapidly and go right up here. looks like at this point, somewhere impacting southern california, maybe the southwest and what we would likely see is really strong winds. we'll see a really big increase in moisture. we need it. this is monsoon season in the southwest. we have gotten much. but take a look at this. this is saturday through wednesday. some spots here, maybe 3 to 5 inches of rain. in an area like this, that will probably cause some flooding. we need the rain. probably will come too quickly. then in to the atlantic basin. starting to get activity going. these two storms out here far out in the atlantic. this one that develops five or six days from now across the

western gulf. if that did, probably wouldn't have enough time to strengthen in a strong storm but could bring really needed moisture to texas. texas, neil, has been baking and they haven't had much moisture at all. maybe from this storm over the weekend, we get some moisture come in. that would be good news. take a look at this. we're getting into the meat of hurricane season right now. really ramps up and on cue. starting to see things become active in the atlantic. neil? >> neil: thanks. just what we need. thanks, rick. rick reichmuth following those developments. meanwhile, karl rove on what is at stake a week from today. apparently a very big debate. you didn't hear it from me. pano ai chooses t-mobile for business for 5g solutions... ...because t-mobile helps pano ai innovate, so they can stop the spread of wildfires. now's the time to see what america's largest 5g network can do for your business.

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upgrade to febreze car. >> neil: week from today, big fox debate. of course, bret baier will take you to that big night to see who scores some points and maybe surprise you on the upside. karl rove former white house deputy chief of staff, best selling author and contributor. brilliant guy. knows every little creek and nook and cranny in this country, by the way. good to see you. it's scary. >> thank you. good to be on. >> neil: can you see someone emerging who, you know, scores either a good line or makes an impact or surprises on the upside in this debate? or has all that been hashed out

to the point where, like, go ahead. >> no, i think there's going to be a moment where more people are going to see whoever is on that stage than they've seen of the field thus far this year. they've seen individual candidates make their announcement. they've seen the frontrunner dominate the headlines. but no, this is going to be a big evening because there are a lot of people who are going to be watching and several people, not just one, but several people can have a good night and cause their numbers to rise and cause a lot of people to say you know what? i need to reconsider the field. >> neil: you always remind me when we look at these polling numbers across the country and all, it's one race at a time. it's the caucuses and then it's, you know, new hampshire, what have you, and south carolina, all that. so it's race by race and who has the momentum? in 2016, donald trump succeeded brilliantly picking apart that field. and emerging as the unbeatable guy. now, he is starting off being the unbeatable guy. so there's the pressure that comes with that. how do you see it?

>> well, i think that's right. and he faces a big decision. if he doesn't show up, then he's going to give the stage to all of his potential competitors and maybe one or two or more are going to strike some very responsive chords with the voters. on the other hand, if he shows up, he can count on being the pin cushion for the evening. everybody is going to be going after the frontrunner. but there are pluses and minuses to each. i don't think we have any idea of how it's going to pan out. he has said he's not going to show up, that he's neither going to sign the pledge he would support the nominee of the republican party nor show up saying why should i show up if i'm way out in front? but, you know, there's -- this is a delicate thing. and debates, you may remember, when we had the 2012 debates, for example, in 2011 and 2012, it went back and forth. sometimes romney had a good night. sometimes gingrich had a good night. sometimes herman cane had a good night. we can see that here.

i think it's more advantageous for the former president to be in the debate, not to be in the debate. if he's in the debate, he dominates it because of the nature of his persona and ability to make all things about all trump all the time. >> neil: quickly, what is the ramification for donald trump? if he doesn't go on wisconsin, battleground state to put it mildly. memories might not be long and the general election, if he were the nominee. would they be sore about that? >> well, there might be some residual on that. but i think it's -- i think it was likely drop away before the election. what happens if he says i'm not going to wisconsin because i'm the frontrunner and i'm not going to the reagan debate because i hate the person who is the chairman of the board of the reagan library? i mean, after a while, people start to say why isn't he willing to show up as the frontrunner ought to be willing to show up and show us that he deserves to be the frontrunner by dominating the evening. so, you know, there are pluses and minuses whether he comes or whether he goes. but it will be interesting to

see what his final decision is. >> neil: indeed. we'll probably know at the last minute. thank you very much, karl rove. good seeing you. i'm going to be talking to bill barr on what's at stake legally for the former president in all these battles and indictments. 91 different charges across four criminal cases. how that sorts out for the former president. that's tomorrow. "the five" is now. >> jeanine: hello, everyone. i'm judge jeanine pirro along with dana perino and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." >> jeanine: here's how to deal with the woke mob. republican presidential candidate vivak is schooling a self-described pan sexual activist who decided to confront him over lgbtq issues. >> have a negative vie