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>> what's up? >> what are you doing, man? >> good to see you. >> thanks for being here, of cou course. >> how are you? >> good to see you. >> keep going. >> keep going. [laughter] >> we're good. >> you got it. thank you guys for making the trip. >> cheers to you guys. >> cheers. >> cheers to warriors. appreciate it. >> thank you, sir. >> welcome to a special edition of "modern warriors." war on warriors. each man here has served in our nation's military and has spoken out about a disturbing change in culture at the department of defense. right now our military is being indoctrinated with a critical race theory curriculum to appease social justice warriors while losing our competitive

edge. we're all here at an undisclosed location outside of nashville, tennessee, to talk about these concerns over some tennessee whiskey with real warriors who are at the forefront of this fight. >> stu sheller, best-selling author of "crisis in command," and former lieutenant colonel in the united states marine corps. he served in the marine corps for 17 years as an infantry officer deploying to iraq and afghanistan. he has awards for valor and has commanded at the platoon company and battalion level. wesley hunt is a west point graduate and former apache helicopter pilot. hunt also served as a diplomatic liaison officer to saudi arabia. hunt's father is a retired lieutenant colonel in the army and beth of his siblings also attended west point and served. they are 60 years of military

service just in his immediate family. captain jason church, retired u.s. army who deployed to afghanistan in 2012. he was injured in an i.e.d. blast that resulted in the loss of both legs below the knee. despite this he still wants to serve his country and he's currently the chairman of veterans on duty. and congressman mike -- represents florida's sixth congressional district and serves on the house armed services committee and is the ranking republican. he's a green beret, colonel in the national guard and is the former white house and pentagon policy adviser. he's been at the forefront of exposing woke policies being implemented throughout our military and is the first green beret to be elected to congress. thank you all, gentlemen, for being here. >> cheers. you guys are all warriors indeed. seen combat. you're still passionate about what's happening in our military today.

what do we mean when we say we think military is going woke? is the problem overblown? >> it's very real coming from the sodders and cadets in terms of the outcry about what's happening. i found out what was being taught at west point which was a seminar titled "how to cope with your whiteness and white rage" at west point. they were recommending to not say mom and dad, not say boyfriend, girlfriend, and they are being taught that the flag that they signed up to die for is inherently at its core bad. that it's, that it's colonialist. a lot of recruits are saying that's not what we signed up for and it is tearing our military apart from the inside and it's impossible to avoid the conversation. wokism is just simply placing the social values of equal opportunity over the values of the organization, so in the

military it should be war fighting, and so i give a story in my book at the basics school, we had to give a pitch to minorities to push them into combat arms, and white students were told they weren't allowed to go to this pitch, right? and the thought process was, general officers come from minorities. so general officers come from combat arms, right? >> for our viewers combat arms infantry armor. >> aviation, tanks. >> we would segregate, let's call it a hundred females and black hispanic, we need you represented in the general officer ranks. after the speech i had three black officers come up to me and say this is bull [ bleep ] you should be treating us like equals, and i as the field grade officer completely agreed with them but in that moment, i don't

know, i felt afraid. i felt like i had to hold the party line so rather than saying, guys, i agree with you i just stood there and said, look, it's important that we're very representative in the military, and that you guys take a look at combat averages right? most people don't speak out what they know to be true. so the fear of there is going to be repercussions of whatever the popular thing is, most people think, if i say something, aim going to make a difference? and why i would risk everything that i have? i had to kind of step back and say, i don't believe with this fundamentally but am i going to make a change? apache pilot, i had my life saved by apache pilots. it was a female. but, you know, just hearing you acknowledge and say, yes, i mean, whole race thing, whole minority thing, i think, everyone should just be treated as equals. >> that's correct. >> right? that's what everyone should want. >> that's correct. >> equality, so the critical

race theory, just assuming that the system is inherently racist is shortsighted. when someone says it's inherently racist because there are less black officers in the general officer ranks, what they don't report is that black officers are less likely to go into infantry. when asked why it's because usually, what they told me was, i want marketable skill. so what you have to ask yourself as a military professional when you're trying to solve this problem is, is it the military's responsibility to go into homes at young ages and teach families of different ethnicities of why infantry is important if they want to become general officers or because of the social dynamic that's way beyond just the military's slice of the problem, the system must be inherently racist when really i think everyone should subscribe to we want equality, we want one standard, if you want to be an

infantry officer, apache pilot, whatever it is, you have to achieve the standard. >> what you're saying, and i often say it, it's about standards. not about gender, race, or religion, this is the standard to be a marine, the standard to be an air force pilot or green beret. that's it. either you meet the standard or you don't that should be the military's sole objective. what is the standard that we need, to have the best military members we can to defend the nation and defeat our enemies. >> it's also a choice. >> it's a choice for combat arms. for the person who chooses combat arms is basically there because they want to kick ass. woe want to put steel on target and regardless of your mentality it has nothing to do with your race, religion, color or creed. i chose to fly apaches because i wanted to be at the tip of the spear in combat. >> they look cool. >> they look amazing. >> and they have air conditioning. >> we could care less. when you're on the ground, taken enemy rounds, first, the enemy's

bullets could care less what color you are and when i'm calling in air support i could care less what color the pilot is s. i just want bombs and rockets on foreheads of the bad guys. >> i want somebody to meet the standard to do that because that's the big thing. if you're not having standards, you're going to allow certain elements of politics to come into play and what that does is it puts soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines lives' at risk. if you have people who can't perform the job in positions of real importance, that's when people die. look, i was laying on a battlefield myself bleeding out. if i had people surrounding me who could not meet the standards physically, to carry me off the battlefield, could not meet the standards in the air to provide air support, fighting off the taliban to make sure a medivac could land, i'm dead. i'm not here. obviously i love being here and have a wife and grow a family but when we look at this over

time it also reduces america's abilities to fight and win wars. if you have people dying on the battlefield and forces losing the ability to project power that's how an enemy like china or russia beats us. if we're prioritizing politics over military effectiveness and readiness we will lose the next war. we have more modern warriors on the other side of the break.

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>> we're being told time and time again, though, that diversity is our strength. it seems to be the dod's number one talking point on a lot of levels. >> i've had this argument thrown at me. you want diversity of thought. a perfect example. lost your legs and need someone to carry you off. you're looking at a pretty big dude. i would have a hard time picking you up by myself and carrying you off the battlefield. what about professional sports. this is what i think about. the wnba is equal opportunity. it's not equality. it's saying, we're giving you an equal opportunity to play but if we wanted equality you would have to try out for the same team. imagine if there was basketball team and one had all the best players and the other was strength of diversity and you had spots reserved for every

ethnicity, and the losing team was killed because that's the outcome in war. i don't understand why sports aren't held to the same standard of diversity is your strength if we need someone to pick up a 200-pound man that's bleeding out from both legs and somehow when that outcome is death we have a different philosophy on it. >> there is an important point in the physicality, and the physical fitness and all of that right? and that is, it takes different physical dynamics, and different levels of strength to be a marine than it does to be a cyberwarrior, right? or to be a supply officer or what have you. so, you know, legislation that we just got in the defense bill directs the military to, let's make the physical standards to the job, right? and stop dividing men, women, along gender lines, right? it's about, again, it's about standards and hitting those standards and making sure they fit the job.

if you're a cyberwarrior i'm not going to have to drag a cyberwarrior away from their computer or keyboard. >> we also need cyberwarriors. we need combat arms, all different walks of life. >> where did this come from? where did the idea that the military should be a social laboratory for social justice come from? was it a certain administration, was it a certain policy, i remember women in the military, but women in combat roles, where did the idea that equity, i love your analogy of the wnba and the nba, where did that analysis come in? >> president obama said publicly, i want to see every minority have an equal opportunity in the military. on the surface everyone agrees with that. everything we're talking about. we all want everyone -- agreed. they wanted to do female-male infantry units so the marine corps spent six months, did a female engagement -- >> i remember that. >> and they had a male bat

battalion, so they carved this out of our operating abilities and for six months provided data that showed readiness and capability, and they provided it and said, hey, it's not as effective. here's the data in the six months that we used our resources to prove this, and the secretary of the navy said, i don't care. this is what we're doing, right? so i was at the basic school at the time where we create mos's and providing all of these previous to a panel, like the defense advisory for women in combat, congressional panel, and so that's what i spent most of my time on. the whole organization was getting frustrated, he came down to talk to us because this whole conversation that we're having was right at this time and he was talking about everything, what i just said, but there was one point that sticks out clearly in my mind, everyone agrees, everyone should have an equal opportunity to try out but the question is are the standards going to lower to shove in some of these

initiatives? and so some captain was brave enough to stand up and say, secretary of the navy, i have a question, can you address standards? and everything you're saying, we all agree with. but our standards are going to drop, and this quote is forever etched in my mind, he confidently looked at the captain, standards won't change. but they will evolve. [laughter] >> and that was it. that's all he got and then he left, and we were more confused. so i asked the colonel, in my mind, right around then, it just like, it was clear to all of us, it doesn't matter what your feedback is they are going to dance around questions, you can provide them data, it doesn't matter, and since then kind of progressively gotten worse. >> and standards -- >> factually right now, physical standards for a female to coming into the infantry is lower than a male. that's unquestionable. >> that's wrong. >> i agree. i agree. >> do you have the physical strength to do these things?

this is the problem when politicians want implement hard changes to the military because the military has these things through experience. we've seen what it takes to win. we've seen what happens and why we lose. then they found ways of trying to bring academia into it, books list, saying this book needs to be read. this guy is literally vouching for racism. when we talked about the crt stuff before this is how you get academically indoctrinated. this is how you have it taught at the academies and when the officer corps buys it into, especially if they haven't been in war, that scares me and it's going to hurt us long term. >> what was your experience as a black officer in the military? >> so when i was coming up, before 2004, my sisters, 1993, this was not a thing. we weren't having these kinds of conversations. 9/11 happened, my sophomore year at west point so my entire class knew that we were all getting ready to go to war so we trained

accordingly. when i look at all the changing of the names on bar recollection and bases and what not, this is all made up stuff that happened over the course of the past few years. >> how many guys you serve with said i don't want to serve at fort benning or bragg because they are confederate generals. >> in eight years active duty of the thousands of conversation that is i have had this was never a bone of contention. >> any complaints on that? >> i served at a.p. hill, at no point did we even ask who is a.p. hill, i could open a history book and read about what he did in the civil war and later when i got my masters i found out about it, oh, that makes sense but people on the ground aren't analyzing that and there is some, it's not our job to rewrite history. it's our job to learn from it and then evolve and go forward but this whole rewriting of history is troublesome. >> on top of that, now that we're bringing this to the

forefront and now that we understood fort hood where i was stationed, fort rucker, it's pretty remarkable to think we've come a long way and if we change the name on these buildings we have no perspective of it. i am less interested in the name, wow, there was a time when we were naming these buildings and naming these bases after confederate generals, and then look at me, as a black apache helicopter pilot flying combat air missions in baghdad, that's absolutely amazing. outside of america, i don't want to lose that perspective. >> the thing is too, when you're talking about renaming all of these bases, this stuff costs money. it costs minute, millions of dollars to do it and right now we've got barracks and other things going on right now that are deteriorating on our bases. it's a complaint i get from a lot of field grade officers is the barracks for personnel are becoming quite antiquated. these things were built 50 years ago but we're going to be spending money on renaming bases

and not actually providing adequate -- >> the army just moved the last few soldiers out of world war ii barracks called smoke bomb hill on fort bragg, because they hadn't had the funding to do so. to your point, they care about mold in the bathrooms, they care about their living conditions, and they care about having the ammo, the equipment, and the things and the leadership that they need to go fight a war. >> you said nobody cares and i think you're right, amongst trigger pulllers, but somebody cares. who is setting the policy that does care that's saying, no, no, no. renaming bases is really important. because whoever they are they are very powerful. >> it's the progressive left that's pushing this agenda, and i think, frankly, you have a lot of generals in the pentagon right now that are just shifting with the political winds. because at the end of the day we need to be focused on war fighting, fact that the chinese navy is now larger than ours,

their space force is larger than ours, they are modernizing their nuclear weapons faster, and we have iran racing toward a nuclear bomb. half of the joint strikefighter fleet isn't flyable. it's not as though we have the luxury to focus on these kind of more esoteric historic issues. we have serious problems in our military today, and then layered on top of that we have a recruiting crisis where we can't even convince people to come in. >> we'll be right back with more "modern warriors." but i wonder if you just take a few seconds to pray with me real quick.

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they are looking at us saying, they are over here bickering over lowering standards, and changing names on buildings and we're going to be out here war fighting and invading other countries and by the time they wake up, it will be too late. >> we're running around preaching climate strategy to take our entire military vehicle fleet, tanks, armorred personnel carriers, humvees, all electric by 2035 to 2045. >> you show me an electric apache. >> divorced from reality. >> i want the tanks that will kill the most bad guys and be the most lethal not the one that's least carbon emitting but that's a serious strategy. you can look it up. it's on the table right now. that's the focus of the leadership to answer your question. >> it has nothing to do with lethality. >> are electric vehicles more lethal than a jet turbine in the back of the tank? >> that's being driven by politicians. >> back to an agenda that's

coming from the left because at the end of the day you have political appointees in charge of the pentagon. we need the most lethal fighting force and it's about standards, not about gender, race, religion. >> so did you see it in west point, morsi civilian professors which came out of the same educational pipeline as other elite civilian universities and bring those politics with them? >> my sister was actually a west point professor, was a math instructor when my brother and i were both cadets. even at that time, having some civilian instructors was a good thing to give you some diversity of thought as you were talking about which is really important, to get different perspectives but at the end of the day, we want all focused on war fighting and the overwhelming majority of our instructors were rotc guys, former west point graduates, that came back to teach at west point, to talk about and teach war fighting. you can go anywhere else but if

you don't want to war fight then go to a civilian school so we should not be changing the way we teach at the military academies to indoctrinate ourselves to the way the city civilian -- >> cal berkeley. >> right. >> we're trying to recruit and find young people that want to actually fight wars. we have to cater to them and cater to their needs and cater to what they want to do. they want to fight wars, let's teach it. >> let's go to that, then, because the centerpiece of this article in the army times, woke military debate is about the army's inability to meet its recruiting goals. by some estimates, 15,000 to 20,000 short in recruits, as men who have served and, you know have, kids that could, would you recommend to your kids to join today's military? >> you know, i have to say absolutely i would. but that's because i believe absolutely that the united states is under a level of threat that it's never been

under before. however, we're seeing about 50 to 60% of recruits come from military families, and we're seeing time and time again it's a double kill shot. we're seeing that military members are leaving because of all of this stuff going on, this distraction from war fighting, wokeness that's going on, and that is just devastating. you layer on top of that the first african-american secretary of defense saying the military is being overcome with white supremacy and we have to have a strange standdown. >> threat number one. >> threat number one, and a training standdown. >> then a study was done. 100 military members out of 2.5 million, that's .004%, i know a lot of you don't do a lot of math, that's a tiny fraction participate in any extremism, yet that was the number one threat. so i think a lot of communities

of color why, would they want their kid joining a systematically racist military. >> i'm not concerned with where we're at right now because the post 9/11 guys and gals, we're still actually in charge. we're the colonels soon to be generals, that actually fought a war. we're good right now because we're going to be the future leaders that are actually -- >> are those people being pushed down? >> 10 years from now we're indoctrinating our future colonels and lieutenant colonels. >> you asked a question about my kids. i would obviously be like, yes, if you want to serve your country, god bless you, we need you, we have to have you. i'm concerned about their colonels and their lieutenant colonels and their majors that might get them killed. that's my concern. >> i think we have the best young talent. i think we have the best young enlisted, that we have the best facilities. countries, other countries, come to the united states to train here. our budget, $750 billion a year is larger than some countries'

gdb. that's a lot of huge assets that our united states military has. the only thing that's wrong with our military is the leadership. and so this thing can be fixed. after world war i, a guy named marshall, secretary of the army, came in and got rid of all those bureaucratic generals, allowed the ascension of someone like highsen hour ultimately leading to our success in world war ii. we need another marshall to come in and clean out that old leadership class so we can have some of that young talent matriculate and move to the top. >> this is the greatest country in the world. it really is. there is no place better than the united states, and it's worth fighting for, and, in my opinion, worth dying for but you have left leaning radicals who are in the pentagon, white house and in the halls of congress who say this country isn't even worth fighting for. >> so how are you going to get them to come into the military? you're seeing recruiting numbers

drop because you're seeing this approach from the left saying this country isn't worth fighting for and a military e exacerbating the divide. it's something that's destructive long term because if you don't have defense being honestly just brought together by patriots, by people who really do believe in what this country stands for, that's how it falls apart. a recipe for destruction. >> one thing about recruitment that isn't talked about in the media a lot there is a new program called genesis, i did my research, and i've talked to a bunch of recruiters, i know now when an 18-year-old goes in and says i want to join whatever service he fills out a disclosure to release his medical information. the government has centralized all of our medical information and the information system is called genesis, showing anyone prescribed adhd, antidepressant, all prescription drugs that we push out on a mass basis now, is

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>> here's a quote from a lot colonel in the marine corps. dale patworth, 26 years, he said with a woke military whose most senior officer is concerned about white rage to discover and discharge white extremists, blaming it all on toxic masculinity, discharging real warriors for not being vaccinated, having a two-day standdown to discuss white extremism, the promotion and expansion of women in xwashgts lowering recruiting standards, blaming the military for 247 years of institutional racism is

not the military i was in for 26 years. does that resonate with you. >> resonates well. just sitting here right now having conversations, we were literally politically incorrect for my entire time in the military. we would tell off-color jokes here and there. we got to learn about each other, fight together, live with each other and we realized we're all literally the same >> insult each other. >> we thrived on it. every time i hear that, like the most funny ever had was sharing some funny, maybe off-color, totally inappropriate jokes with my fellow comrades and we laughed about it and then we talked about it and then we joked about it and fought a war together. >> and you got closer because of it? >> got closer because of it. it's so funny how we have this bond together based on our

humanity and imperfections. we were all americans, number one. that's what's so important. >> and the training reflects that. when you're going through marchedhard training, it requires you to work with people and communicate, and these are the things that will be taken away when you start to divide people and you start to have standards change because now, look, i don't know if you can carry me. and then there becomes a bit of, a little bit of a wall built up. >> i find it hard to believe that this is bringing units close together. >> it's not. >> you're losing that camaraderie that's necessary in war, because it is hell. it is hell when you're out there and you need to know somebody has your back. right now it seems like the biggest priority are the politics of the day. >> when you're a farm boy from indiana or inner-city detroit or wherever, jewish, christian, muslim, you're all forced together and it came home to me with a world war ii veteran that i became close to, in north florida, came from the

segregated south, and he told me, i never really had any real relationship with a person of color, my entire youth. we were in the segregated south and then he rounds the corner, his first ship in the navy and his bunk mate is black and they are literally sleeping on top of each other and become lifelong friends. that's why i think we have to get back to national service, some shared sacrifice for a cause bigger, and then the only color you're worried about is red, whoite and blue. because you're serving a cause bigger than yourselves. >> fox nation is forever grateful for whoever has put this great country first.

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say to someone who denies the fact that the pentagon has a wokeness problem? >> the people who say this is overblown, this is made up. the soldiers, the sailors, the families of the cadets that are ringing our phones off the hook, that are sending the briefings, like how to cope with your whiteness and white rage, they have a very different view. they are incredibly uncomfortable because they feel like they will be canceled within the military organization. why are they coming to me and not to you? this is a grassroots push back and outrage that's bubbling up. we have to arrest this problem now because we face the next war or the next national crisis. >> look at the statements coming from leadership. can you not tell me there is a woke problem going on in the military? >> it's ridiculous to deny the problem exist, and it's not just within the military. the issue right now is that the

military becomes the epicenter because of the control that the white house can exert. it's very evident to see this philosophy and this failed ideology permeating through the ranks. >> if you say that it doesn't exist you haven't served in the military and if you say it doesn't exist and you have served in the military then i discredit you immediately because you're not telling the truth. >> amen. >> pray god, we're going to take charge in the congress. and, you know, we're just going to have to legislate. we've already proposed amendments to ban crt, to ban anti-american marxist -- we can go down the list of the garbage that's being taught not only in our military academies but if we're not successful, i fear future soldiers, sailors, airmen, marine, guardians, will suffer. at work, helping them achieve financial freedom.

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factor, and how me and all the others survived i put to american ingenuity. >> your brothers found a way. >> after world war ii america was altogether. the days following 9/11, you saw america come together. we want to serve these great americans that risk their life every single day. >> after 9/11 we came together. the only thing that will keep us together is freedom. >> america should make a promise to take care of the families who are left behind, if you're injured, that we'll take care of you. >> they need the support, they need the help. they can't do it alone. >> thank you for today. god bless you. >> join me in supporting our nation's heroes, it only takes $11 per month. thank you, and god bless america. >> rocket man is on a suicide mission for himself.

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>> this is the greatest country in the world because we've been through way worse over generations. >> yes, man. >> this is a country that got through a civil war. this is a country that became back-to-back world war champions. this is a country that got through vietnam veterans returning home and being spat on by fellow americans. we all came home to a hero's i know we're going to right this ship. >> it's reflected in the people who have served. yes, we've got problems going on in the pentagon but we also have a system that allows us a chance to fix it and these guys in congress, they have got to get the bureaucrats up there and strain the radical stuff. hold these people accountable, the american people will see that. >> you can't fight racism with more racism. that's the bottom line. [laughter] >> that's it. >> keep it simple. >> of being racist back.

>> it is that simple. >> it's what it is. >> it's what it is. >> it's terrible. it's literally the opposite of what martin luther king jr. taught. >> let me ask you, when you were in combat, on that martin luther king model what was the ethos in the unit. >> in the foxhole nobody cares. they continue care about black, white, brown, jew, muslim, they care about taking care of the man to your left or right. it doesn't mean we don't understand a checkered history or teach history but this is about moving forward as a country and you have to be unified. at the end of the day we're all americans and that's all our enemies care about and that's all we should care about. >> we're all here because we think we can make a change. we wouldn't be fighting for it if we didn't think that was the case, and so i'm here, i'm optimistic and i think we can get the train back on the tracks but it requires tough conversations like this. it requires understanding. it requires education. it requires talking to people of different beliefs. and then fighting for what you

believe in and not being scared. people want to virtue signal and not risk a position or a thing, and i just think right now, is the time for people to be courageous, speak out with their beliefs, say things that may not be vogue but you know to be true and once you raise that flag, people will find you and that's when you can start making a change. >> we in the military have always found a way to allow the best to rise to the top regardless of your race, color, or creed. the insinuation that we're not better off now than we were 10, 15, 20, 30 years ago, racially, is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard in my entire life. let's get over it, let's move on, let's get back to war fighting. we're not perfect. the military, though, is where everybody comes together under a known common goal, where you've taken an oath to defend your country against all enemies,

both foreign and domestic, and whoever takes no oath doesn't care what race, color, or creed. we're all americans first. let's get back to that and by having these kinds of conversations we're definitely going to head in the right direction for the future. >> part of the reason why we're having this conversation is because of the things you've exposed publicly through your office, and colonel sheller, thank you for everything you've done. you stood up and have sounded the alarm. we've talked so much about courage in this conversation. it's not easy inside the institution to do that and you've done that and we appreciate your insights. >> thank you. >> gentlemen all, thank you very much for being here. an important discussion to have a pivotal moment in our country's history. thank you all for being here and joining us on "modern warriors." our nation's self-determination is truly at stake, if it continues on path of self-destruction our republic itself is vulnerable. and if we don't have a military capable and willing to defend it, then what we pass on to our kids and grandkids is a very

dangerous and dark future. you're part of changing that, and this program, "modern warriors" is trying to help expose the reality of where we are at and galvanize the next generation of leaders to fight for it. thank you for watching "modern warriors war on warriors." ** >> sean: welcome do this special edition of hannity and tonight for the hour we'll highlight some of our biggest interviews from our live audience shows. first up, my interview with former vice president mike pence and his thoughts about running in 2024. >> 60% of the american people are living paycheck to paycheck. many people are tapping into their pensions at a big loss to do so. some people are putting bare necessities on a credit card