a happy story when it comes to everything, all the controversy going on in sports. god bless her. >> sandra: she said distance runner. to me, that was 1500 meters. that was a sprint. >> john: to me, all running is a sprint. thanks for joining us. i'm john roberts. >> sandra: i'm sandra smith. >> john: "the story" with martha starts right now. >> martha: great story. thanks very much, guys. good afternoon, everybody. i'm martha maccallum on this friday. this is "the story." former attorney general bill barr set the durham probe in to motion. now we're still digging through what is really in here and it has revealed through a closer look that there were clinton investigations that the bureau was digging in to in their field offices and they were getting somewhere. but they dropped them to focus on trump investigations. we'll talk to bill barr about

that. bret baier joins us as governor ron desantis lands on the cover of "time" magazine and reportedly tells his donors that he believes trump cannot win. first, general jack keane is standing by on breaking news that is developing at this hour that the united states will participate in the training of ukrainian pilots on f-16s. so where is all of this headed? there's been a longstanding request for f-16s from the united states. so there are reports that there's been significant advances in this. president zelensky is coming to the g-7 in japan to talk one-on-one with the allies and president biden about all of this. that's where we find our correspondent from the white house, peter doocy. he's live in heiroshima.

>> that was january. now in man, a senior administration official tells us as the training takes place, zelensky on his way to japan for in-person meeting. he says this will greatly enhance our army in the sky. i count on discussing the practical implementation of this discussion at the g-7 in hiroshima. in march, the u.s. pilots let two ukrainian pilots on a simulator in arizona. reportedly they did it great. so making this announcement is frustrating for the president's critics. >> we wasted an entire year. the ukrainian pilots are able to master the f-16 in four months,

not 12. they're highly motivated, this will be a game changer on the battlefield. when it comes to the biden administration, it's pulling teeth for being all in for them winning in ukraine. >> we expect there to be a lot of talk about china in hiroshima as well. it's unclear how united the g-7 leaders will be about confronting them right now. in terms of getting the whole g-7 on the same page against russia, this jets training program has turned out to be a pretty easy one. martha? >> martha: thanks, peter. we bring in retired four-star general jack keane, chairman of the institute for the study of war and fox news senior strategic analyst. general, good to have your here. obviously a very big development. ukraine has been fishing for these f-16s for a long time. until now the white house has said no. >> yeah, this is the pattern.

ukraine asks for a capability. we reject it. then some of our allies start to warm to the idea. the u.k. led this effort. their new prime minister much like boris johnson is all in on supporting ukrainians. when you start to look at this thing, in terms of the facts of it, it just makes so much sense to give them an air capability beyond what their helicopters, their limited fighter jet capability that they have. this is an advanced generation aircraft that they will use. they want to use it for air defense and support their troops on the ground. the f-16 can to both of those functions very easily. i agree completely about training the ukrainians. if there's one thing we've learned in these last 18 months or so is how quickly the ukrainians pick up anything that we're training them on. whether it's high tech or it's just a standard piece of equipment. these guys go after it with a

vengeance. they will pick this up very quickly. i mean, we had briefings on this last year about the number of pilots that they had ready to go, english-speaking, highly trained in their fighter capability and look at where we are. took us a year to get this -- to get to this point. it's sad in that sense but also delighted finally we made this decision. we won't see the impact of this for some time. it will have absolutely nothing to do with the counter offensive that is about to take place in three weeks. it's likely to have utilization more next year or the end of this year at best, if they're successful at accelerating the training. >> martha: two thoughts and a question on this. it's impossible to underestimate the power of zelensky's persuasion and presence. he has been exhaustive in traveling around, speaking to

leaders, speaking to the u.k., going to the g-7 and me will meet with them again. he's been very successful even though it's tape a long time to get the jets in to the skies. one of the reasons that was biden said he wouldn't provide them is they felt they were escalatory and provoke a difficult response from russia. so how do you think russia perceives this news that these f-16st will be flown by ukraine pilots? >> we self-impose this on ourself. this is our conclusion that we drew that it would be escalatory. we had those conclusions about other weapons systems, particularly himars and the like going back. we provided increased advanced capability, and the russians have not escalated at all, period. and i've always believed right

from the beginning that brandishing the use of nuclear weapons, if you analyze that and do some thinking and apply some judgment to it, it doesn't make sense that russia would do that because nato comes in the war and everything they have in ukraine would get destroyed. that's the facts of the case. putin knows that. >> martha: one quick question on china. the president has decided he's not going to australia and new guinea. very important places in terms of the defense against china and various reporters weighing in in the region. one of them saying a certain way -- they said the president has to deal with the debt sealing, a certain way to avoid default, to remember there's nothing inevitable about u.s. leadership and china's aspirations are ambitious, a quick thought on that. >> there's no doubt about that.

one of the private discussions going on at this g-7 is not a matter of public record is a recognizization that the easy and these democracies are losing their influence to china and russia. that is just the facts of it. you can see it in africa, in latin america, south asia and the middle east. and they've got to come to grips. why is that happening and what can they do about it. >> martha: yeah. obviously if you're the leadership in new guinea or australia, the fact that the president has decided not to come on this trip that was planned for months is significant when people are pulling for your attention and forming alliances in the area. thanks so much, general. good to have you with us. things are heating up in the gop race for the white house. senator tim scott has filed to run. governor ron desantis could be right behind him. bret baier on the big moves now

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>> martha: making right now, talks have hit a snag in the debt talks. a gop source telling fox that there's too much daylight between president biden and house republicans who want to do just some spending cuts around the edges on nondiscretionary spending. there's real differences here between the two sides. a budget deal is still possible. the president is set to get another update from his

negotiating time tonight in japan. they have to work this out, folks. they will. it's looking rocky at the moment. we'll keep you posted on developments. governor ron desantis in new hampshire today, which is obviously very important place to be for somebody who is expected to announce next week that he will file to get in the race. he's reportedly telling donors that former president trump cannot beat president biden in a head-to-head general election race. desantis made his case to gop lawmakers today in the first primary state. >> we were able to take an urban county like miami-dade that went to hillary clinton by 30 points in 2016 and win it by double digits. you don't do that by only winning republicans. you're winning independents, urban areas. some like the nicest urban spots in miami, i won. how can a republican ever win those? >> so with that, we bring in

bret baier. bret, get to see you this afternoon. it's a logical argument for desantis to make that he had a huge win in florida, which not too long ago was a purply state. it's red these days. he said look, i won people that nobody thought i could win and did it nationally as well. >> it's an interesting pitch. elect ability is a big pitch for republicans. but it's not enough in the current environment. the former president is up in some cases 30, 40 points in a number of polls. as far as elect ability goes, there's polls showing the former president trump beats president biden. others show biden up 5 or 6 or president trump. so the desantis pitch is going to be you like trump policies? so do i but maybe without the chaos, without the baggage. that pitch he's started to unleash in iowa and new hampshire and may be a state by state battle when we get down

to it here. with desantis trying to be the alternative. >> martha: he's getting beat up why the trump folks that are never show about going after their opponents, this is from a spokesperson for maga, inc. ron desantis failed shadow campaign has opened the flood gates for career politicians look to seize an opportunity. they talk about tim scott's entrance. it doesn't kneecap scott. this is obviously an escalating rhetoric between these two, bret. >> yeah, and you seen some ads, some online ads. i think that you may start seeing swinging the other way once governor desantis officially gets in the race and we expect that to happen in a few days. you're right. you have senator tim scott, chris christie, former new jersey governor. you have in the wings governor

glenn youngkin who is the florida republican governor that he's not talking like he's running, but he's sending signals like he thinks about it. >> martha: let's take a look at that. that was very interesting. the youngkin camp is quiet when they talk about running. >> we can usher in a new era of american values. president ronald reagan changed lives. now it's our turn. >> martha: what do you think is going on in the youngkin camp, bret? >> listen, they're saying this is about a push to win back the virginia state senate. didn't mention anything about the state senate in that ad. it was a lot of shining city on the hill and reflecting back on president reagan. boy, did sound like an intro to a race. there's no indications that he's jumping in but may be a late alternative. >> martha: and he and his wife

walking down the colonnade that looks like the white house. thanks, bret. see you tonight. >> see you, martha. >> martha: so kentucky attorney general daniel cameron is now set to challenge democrat andy beshear in the governor's race in kentucky. he joins us live in just a moment. clearly a person to watch in his party. also joining news moments, attorney general bill barr after this.

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>> martha: an attorney for daniel penny telling fox that they have now identified one of the two other men seen in the eye witness video. no word on which of the men they have identified as the investigation continues. funeral services for jordan neely held in new york city today. the case won't go before a grand jury until at least monday. as donald trump and ron desantis inch closer to a 2024 face off, the former president winning a proxy war over the florida governor's race this week. daniel cameron handily beat desantis-backed kelly craft in kentucky's gop primary for governor. democrat andy beshears popular in kentucky. an unset in november would be a telling indicator for 2024. with that we bring in kentucky gop nominee for governor, daniel

cameron. general cameron, thanks for being here. >> thanks, martha. i appreciate it. >> martha: it's interesting. we talk about trump support for you, desantis support for kelly craft who was a u.n. ambassador under president trump. that came in late. that came in monday. so what are your thoughts on that? >> well, at the end of the day, i am focused on making sure we make andy beshear a one-term governor. whether it's president trump or governor desantis or governor youngkin or sarah huckabee sanders, i'm here to uniform the republican party. we want to retire andy be sheer from the governor's office. >> so one other note on the desantis part. you said that it was in your victory speak on tuesday, you

said the trump culture of winning is alive and well in kentucky. was that aimed at the comment by desantis on the culture of losing, that he wants to put to rest? >> well, here in kentucky, the working men and women of this commonwealth appreciate president trump and appreciate the work he did in the presidency over the four years he was there. i know a lot of folks, myself included, hope he rereturns to the presidency. so at the end of the day, this is about united kentuckians and making sure that we get rid of a governor who shut down churches, shut down schools. because he shut down schools, we have learning loss here in kentucky. so if any of your viewers want to help out our campaign, feel free to go for cameronforkentucky.com. >> martha: let's talk about what's going on in kentucky and so many places in terms of crime and as you point out, the huge learning loss that happened

during covid what are you promising kentucky voters on those fronts? >> well, on day one, we have an education commissioner that was essentially appointed by andy beshear that said if you're a hard working teacher in kentucky and the you have reservations about the gender ideology curriculum in schools, the teacher needs to find another job. that's not the right answer. the right answer is andy beshear needs to find another job. we'll make sure that happen comes november. on crime, as the next governor of kentucky, i'm going to work with police and local law enforcement to make sure that they have the resources necessary to tamp down violent criminals. if you're trying to track down businesses in to a state, it's important that violent crime is under control. governor besheer has done nothing about it. i want to take action on day

one. >> martha: clearly a race to watch and you're a candidate to watch. attorney general cameron, thanks for coming in today. >> thank you. great to see you. >> martha: you bet. let's get a check on new york city's migrant crisis with nate foy who has been following this. hi, nate. >> hi, martha. eric adams expected 15 buses to a reid in new york city this weekend. the first stop will be the iconic roosevelt hotel. this will be the main intake center moving forward. migrants are given food and water and legal and medical services. some people will live here. starting today, 175 families will be living here. that number will increase to 850. the hotel has been closed for three years, but now it's part of the mayor's solution to this crisis that keeps getting larger by scale. take a look. another migrant bus arrived at the port authority this morning.

we counted 38 migrants. this comes one day after the mayor sent two migrant puss to sullivan county. within hours the county declared a state of emergency joining 20 other new york countities declaring a state of emergency. >> whoever is telling us not to go somewhere, i have one question. you tell me where we should go. >> martha, a quick update from a story earlier this week. we're learning a veterans advocate is saying some migrants were kicked out of an orange county hotel. fox news has reached out to the organization for a statement but so far we have not heard back. back to you. >> martha: thanks for the follow up, nate. yeah, the mayor here is in a difficult spot. that roosevelt hotel has been

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the foreign governments in the clinton administration. they did that months before the 2016 election. some republicans are calling to reopen those investigations. former attorney general bill barr is standing by with his thoughts on all of this. first to griff jenkins. >> what a week it began with the durham drop. it ends with calls for clinton investigations. will john durham testify next week as requested by jim jordan and the judiciary committee. will he address the clinton investigations. now let's recall in one probe from 2014, the fbi was investigating claims ott two foreign governments that were seeking to buy influence with hillary during her presidential campaign with illegal donations. that was shut down. as well as the three investigations in to the clinton foundation launched in early 2016 by three fbi field offices in arkansas, new york and

washington d.c. durham also highlighted the different way in which the fbi approached the clintons versus the trump investigations. in the report, durham writes unlike the fbi's opening of a full investigation of unknown members of the trump campaign, in this separate matter, involving a purported clinton campaign plan, the fbi never opened any type of inquiry, issues any tasks, employed analytical personnel or produced any products in connection with the information. byron donalds weighed in earlier on that today. watch. >> this is dangerous for our country. what the report shows is that you had rank and file in the fbi and three different offices who had serious concerns about the clinton foundation and what was going on around hillary clinton. >> so will we hear from durham, martha? fox has learned negotiations are underway with durham and jordan

to see if he can testify. a.g. merrick garland will not block durham if he chooses to testify. martha? >> martha: thanks, griff. we'll be watching that. bill barr joining me now, author of "one damn thing after another." thanks for being here today. good to have you with us. >> great to be here. >> martha: let's take a look at the durham report. while the department appears to have legitimate concerns about the clinton foundation investigation occurring so close to a presidential election, it does not appear that similar concerns were expressed by the fbi regarding cross fire hurricane investigation. what do you say about this -- when appears to be dumping out of clinton investigations and putting the gas on the trump investigation right before the election? >> well, it shows that there appear to have two different standards used obviously.

one that applied to trump and one that applied to other cases involving hillary clinton, either the foundation or very specific allegations, very clear and specific allegations of foreign influence attempts using -- going through the clinton administration or going to the clinton administration. these were handled differently than how they handled trump, which obviously adds to the evidence that this was a bias investigation. it wasn't so much to stop -- apparently wasn't to stop the russians. it was to stop trump. >> martha: and we've heard about the efforts to help hillary and hurt trump. this feels like it lines up with that thinking. the other thing that strikes me, general barr, they talk -- the durham report talks about how loosely-based crossfire hurricane was and that they hadn't tapped in to their russia

analysis that existed in the fbi and said to them, you know, does this pass the smell test, you guys? what we're picking up from this australian informant? they sort of had this separate line that was ignoring the fbi's offices that were supposed to be focused on this kind of thing. and compare that with the work that was done by fbi analysts on the clinton foundation. >> right. look at this example. they had specific information that a foreign country had deployed a non-u.s. person to make a contribution to hillary clinton's campaign to get favors. to get favors in the future. that's very specific and it's a foreign person. they didn't -- they turned down and blocked doing a fisa initially. what did they do with trump? they get this very fuzzy

statement that just said the russians have some stuff from a 28-year-old volunteer, unpaid volunteer in the campaign. they launched immediately to a full blown investigation and sought a fisa application against the u.s. person. i mean, it just -- it boggles the mind. but there are so many omissions and commissions that have clearly no reasonable basis that it obviously suggests that this was not a good faith investigation. now, can we prove beyond a reasonable doubt it was for a corrupt motive? no. but certainly all of this other evidence strongly suggests the probability that this was not just inadvertent sloppiness and mistakes. they had an agenda. >> martha: christopher wray, the

current director who you worked with, he says look, these things have been fixed. these people don't work here anymore. that's not the way it is now. do you believe that? >> i think it's important -- i've said this many times. the problem with russiagate was not a problem among the rank and file. it was a problem at the highest -- willful group at the top that had an agenda. that was the problem. in fact, people who are treating the fbi as a monolith, they're making a mistake. there were objections in the fbi as to how far they were taking this thing, the russiagate investigation a when they were dropping things related to hillary clinton, there were objections within the fbi. >> martha: so last thought. does it go anywhere? you heard byron donalds say they should reopen the investigations into the clinton foundation.

will that happen in your opinion? >> well, not at the department of justice. the statute of limitations has run. i mean, i personally feel, you know, it's appropriate to find out what happened there. but because of those earlier delays, the statute of limitations has long since run. >> martha: okay. bill barr, thank you very much. always good to talk to you, sir. >> thanks. >> martha: so this has just broken, this news. football hall of famer and civil rights activist jim brown has died. a look back at jim brown's incredible legacy when jim gray joins "the story" next. my name is brian delallo. i teach ap and honors economics in pittsburgh, pennsylvania. financial well-being to me is knowing that i can be free to do the things that i love to do. i hope when i retire someday, they say,

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>> martha: sad news breaking. jim brown, football hall of famer and civil rights activist has died. he led the cleveland browns to their last nfl championship title in 1964 and was the league's mvp a year later. at syracuse university, he earned ten versety letters in basketball, football, lacrosse and track. he started in dozens of movies including "any given sunday" and "the dirty dozen." his family said he died peacefully at his home in l.a. he was 87. we're glad to have sports caster jim gray here with us, host of his sirius xm radio show, "let's go." he joins us today. hi, jim. >> hi, martha. it is very sad. he was a legend. he was just a bigger than life guy. perhaps the greatest football

player ever, still renouned as that late into his 80s. probably the greatest lacrosse player ever, too, back at syracuse. he did a lot of things. worked with gangs. with american out here in los angeles. tremendously accomplished. a huge loss. >> martha: yeah, he talked about the meaning of football in his life as a black man. how much meaning it sort of gave to him, how much courage and strength that he got from how prominent he became in the sport, jim. >> well, he came from that era back with mohammed ali an bill russell and kareem abdul-jabbar. they had that very fair mouse meeting. there you can see it on the screen. >> martha: yeah, the ali summit. >> and he lived that life. he lived that life. he was a civil rights activist. made made you're contributions

and didn't rest on his lawyers. he became a huge movie star and did so many things for so many people. jim brown walked the walk. i was there the day that the cleveland browns played their last game on nbc and he stayed there and stayed with cleveland. he never waivered. he was still a part of the organization to this day, the new team that came back. so it hard to explain just the impact that he had. because we don't have many folks like that anymore. >> martha: you have written so much on these really pivotal sports figures. that kind of commitment to cleveland, we see people trade around all the time these days and his love for that team and for the city and for his work that he did with mohammed ali and so great to highlight the men of that era and what they stood for in civil rights. a tremendous, tremendous legacy.

time thought on that, jim. >> well, it was an honor, a little over a year ago, when the super bowl came to los angeles and the new sofi stadium. he came to the game and to the tailgate party. i got to sit with him, tommy smith and kareem abdul-jabbar. to sit there and be able to talk to them for 45 minutes, just to listen to the stories, to hear them reminisce, a lot of history there and a lot of great things that they have done for america. it's a really sad day. jim brown was a national treasure. >> martha: i hope young athletes today and everybody really will take a moment to look back at the life of jim brown and what he stood for. and you are a treasure to this country when we look at sports history and did in to the loves

of these people. thanks, jim. >> thanks, martha. go learned ant jim brown, a lot to learn from him still to this moment. >> absolutely. thank you, sir. good to see you. so the decline of religion or people who say that they are faithful is going down, as you know. it has a big role in the political landscape. a new poll out that shows that fewer americans are attending religious services and fewer people say it's the most important aspect of their lives. so how does this shift play out in the 2024 election? interesting nuances here to pay attention to. who better to join me than lee carter a pollster and raymond arroyo, a fox news contributor. great to have you here with us today. >> great to be here. >> martha: let's start with some of these numbers. it's interesting. in some places this holds up. in other places this theory

doesn't hold up what is your take open it? >> so my take is this: i think one of the trends we're seeing, people don't like labels. we're seeing more independents than we ever have and people saying i don't want to identify as one religion over another. this is especially pronounced with young people. they say they don't identify with any one single religion. that will have an impact on abortion. it will have a bigger role in this election than anybody expects. the other thing is the rust belt area. look at pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan. it's hard for a republican to take any one of those states because these folks are now identifying more as democrats than republicans. the border states are leaning more rain. florida, texas and arizona are going to the right. both sides have to pull one of those to the other side to win. >> martha: let's put up decrease in religion and these have leaned more democrat in the last couple of elections. oakland county, michigan,

suburban detroit, bucks county, pennsylvania, which is philly, and the increase in people that say they that are faithful. miami-dade, not a big surprise there. you can see the numbers in 2012, 2016 and 2020. raymond, we see a similar trend in texas. what do you think? >> part of this is the great american migration. people moving to areas of the country that they feel reflect their politics and values more. the hispanic vote and the hispanic voter, largely catholics, that this will be determ determinative. the catholic vote is so tight and determines the election. looks like they just tipped over. 39% of catholics are saying, people say they're not catholic in this new poll. they identify as nones. here's the thing about being catholic. it like being a kardshian.

you never forget the lifestyle. the implants stay with you forever. these candidates will have to appeal to the catholic voters and the evangelical voters in a particular way. one things, abortion, won't seal the deal. they have to talk about education and immigration and the parental role in their child's life in the education establishment and abortion will come in to play but it won't be as decisive as it's been, certainly not for the republicans. it will swing against them in this upcoming election sadly. >> martha: lee, raymond talks about the hispanic vote which has grown for republicans. the catholic vote tends to be decisive. when you look at places like michigan, we talked about michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, a lot of independent voters in those areas. >> a lot of independent voters. 7 and 10 independent voters say abortion is one of their primary

drivers to the poll. >> martha: it was in michigan. that's for sure. >> if that's the case, it's going to be hard for republicans unless that they come up with a policy inclusive some models. >> that's why the parent tall agenda is critical and messaging the abortion argument in a different way. >> martha: can you do that? >> give me another 1 1/2 minutes. care for mothers and children. >> martha: that's the ticket there. how is that issue messaged? it wasn't messaged well in the mid-terms. we'll see where it goes. thanks, raymond. have a great weekend. so on a new episode of the untold story podcast, i had a great conversation with josh kraushaar against the faith voter and how it could impact elections. her reacted to all of these new polling numbers that we saw in that deep dive. that is available today on

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