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in washington who cares about the country enough to say what you just said ? i don't think so. >> i think some people like joe manchin have spoken out. but there's no democratic party anymore, doesn't exist. it's not even a progressive party, but it's a leftist revolutionary movement and has no popular support. but throughout history, suchhout such movements didn't really need they didn't need it. they got power in hansen. thank you so much. b we'll be back tomorrow. here's sean hannity. sean. >> all right, tucker, thank t you.his fox and welcome to hannity. we begin with this fox news alert, manhattan d.a. his far left backers are uhis alvin bragg and his far leftp eg backers, they are now upending the rule of law in our country.a they are now weaponizes justice in our country over what is oneg of the weakest cases everht brought before. a court now comingrt full reaction analysis with trump attorney joe tacopina, the great one , mark levin, bill hemmer, jonathan turley, greg jarret, eric trump.
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we'll all be here. but first, only moments ago, former president donald trump wrapped up his speech fromump wr mar-a-lagoap. hir-a-lagoap. a history, all the unfairnessts unprecedented, frankly, that het has faced since coming down that escalator.'s faced since c that escalator.'s faced since c trump tower. one now, one man has no one man has ever been subjected to anything like this in the history ofhe this country. the media colluded, along with the democrats, to destroy him from day one . the president laid out what heds did successfully as president. i it was a powerful case and hetht five presidentful case and hetht nation in decline and five presidents combined could not messmess the country up more thl joe biden.ke he also talked aboutou investigations. it never, ever g seemed to go away the entire time since he. came down.take a >> that escalator never stops. this ct escalator never stops. and i never thought anything like this could happen. n inrica.in america. happe never thought it could happen.me the only crime that i have committed is to fearlessly defend our nation from those
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[ applause ]ation from those who seek to destroy it. >> and now this massive election interference at sehetion interference at our country, beginning with the radical leftt , george soros backed prosecutor alvin bragg of new york , who campaigned on the fact that he would get president trump. >> i'm going to get him. this'm going to get him. i'm going to get him. this is a guy campaigning. you want to get president trump at any cost. >> and this before he knew anything about me, didn't know a thing about me.he w >> hase was campaigning as it turns out, virtually everybody that has looked at this case, including rhinos, and even democrats, say there is noemocrs crime and that it should nevert have been brought, never happened. everybody. >> all right.
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let us be very clear here today. trum donald trump with thirty four felony counts of falsifying document s, rounding legal andas nondisclosure agreements fros m 2016, now part new york statee a code. these arlle usually y misdemeanh crimes five years past the statute of limitations. lega but through a novel legal theory, never before tried attempti album, bragge is now attempting to elevate the expired misdemeanor to felonies to tryoi and prove intent to commit yet another crime. an election crimectione is beli to btoe a federal election crime that likely is also passed. o the statute of limitations, by the way, outside of his purview and that basically the fec and the doj, they both decided there was no crime. they never indicted the president. we had the former head ofe the fec on this very program saying, no, that's not a crime. >> and here's the kicker,alvin alvin .n' won't even specify what those or other crimes are in the indictment. now, why on earth wouldn't the d.a. need to have to prove
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these other phantom crimes or at least identify what they are?s this sounds insane. this sounds crazy.insanends like it sound as like a banana republic, but they are bogusrges charges. and yes, another witch hunt.e th of byes, another witch hunt.e th the bulk of bragg's charges, gu, they depend on testimony from that guy who is s and an ex-con, convicted liar, admitted liar fe and felon michael cone. and here's kone's former legal ser boadviser, bob stello. vict now, he's not a convict. not he's not a admitted liar. and guess what?ink he's i think he's going to be a powerful counter to thel alvin bragg star witness. that would be michael cohen. you decide, what do you have trump?cide, what do you have on donald trump and that's wheno he started with the same litanyo that he used for the rest of the two hours. i swear to god, bob , i don't have anything on donald trump.d. when somebodg on donald trump.d. but the point is , whey n somebody is really thinking of committing suicide and you'rerit
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offering them a legal way ouhetf of this, if he had any information about donald trump, at wouation about donald trump, time, even for a serial liarliar like michael cohen to to fess, up and say, well, i know this or that because i want to save my own hide. but he didn't do that. michael cohen, who , as i said before, was pacingd back and forth, which suddenlyn whck and forth, which suddenlyn whatever he was talking about,at and turn and point his finger i want you guys to understand. o i will do whatever the f i hae to do. ll never i will never spend a day int jail. he said that aleast least 10t 1o it waid that aleast least 10t 1o period, it was it was a bizarre mantrip. mantra, but it made us clantra, but it but it made it clear to us that michael cohen was saying, i will lie, cheat, steal, shooto someone i will never spend day a day in jail. a day in jail. pa>>y attention to what he to said here. whathe said , do you have anythg on michael cohen? on michael cohen? from goingco to jail?i'm neve i have nothing, bob .r goin
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i have nothing at all. jail. but i'm never going to jail. he said he's suicidal and i'llln do whatever it takes to not go to jail. j now, notai only did costello destroy the incredible city of the state star witness michael cohen, but cohen himself completely contradicted the state's case. look at this statement. this is twenty eighteen. now, this indictment talks about payments in 2017.i'll a i'll ask joe tacopina and mark levin about it in a minute. trac quote, in a private transaction in 2016, i use my own personal funds to facilitate a paymentis of one hundred and thirty thousand dollars to miss stephanie clifford, a.k.a.s stem stormy daniels. neither the trump organization nor the trump campaigntion was a party to the transaction. the payment to miss cliffordans. was lawful and was not a campaign contribution or a campaign expenditure by anyone. now, cohen's attorney echoedrnet those very same remarks ine a letter to the fec february three of 2018. r mind, in keep that date in your mind p and a private transactiorin in
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u.s. preivate transactiorin in 2016 before the u.s. presidential election. mr.. and use his own personal funds to facilitate a payment of one hundred and thirty thousand dollars to stephanie clifford. neithe $130,000 tr the trump organizatn or the trump campaign was a party to the transaction. with miss clifford. and notice the date again. the 2018 february album bragge refers to payments from 2017.hia now again, this is a pathetically weak case based on an ex-con and admitted liar and everyone knows it. of course a grand jury, they can indict a ham sandwich and albumg bag. it's not so good at getting convictions. in fact, he has one of country the lowest conviction rates in the entire country, hovering at an embarrassint g 50%. now, that's a felony cases that he actually tries. fel however.on the 52% of ally ar felonies, they ae downgraded to misdemeanors under bragge. donald trump get sonald trump get the distinction of being
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the only person that of aonly person that he's accusing of a misdemeanor, that they're raising it to . thirty four felonies. now, mysteriously, it wentloniei the the way with president trump and the former president's charges were thrmerrges wupgraded, then multd through what is a risky and very complicated legal. i don'ry complicated legal. maneuver. i don't believe they will be successful. is successful. many legal issues out there, it makes you wonder, does this ever stop while violent offenders are walking all overf the streets of new york misdemeanors that trump what can servew yorkeside one hundred and thirty four years, according to one report in prison foprorr allegedly mislabeling a feww documents, according to album drag, this is more thanre tha warranted because document thisanted because document >> this is what he said today.a. true and accurate business records are important everywhere. e imanto be sure, they are all m the more important iorn manhattan, the financial center of the worldcenter o. that is why we have a history.n'
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the manhattan d.a.'s office of vigorously enforcing white collar crime. >> now, sure, alvin bragg letss ,drug dealers, armed robbers. howard out of jail with a slap on the wrist. no bail, but thoseon victimlesss document crimes. >> now, that's real serious stuff.crimes, that's serious why lie, alvin ?why don't why don't you just be honeste ht about your intentions? we all know what's happening here. brag is just fulfilling his own campaign promise to go after one man that's formere president trump, one organization, the trump , thorganization, one family, the trump family. on terump family. boasted about suing trump more than one hundred times, patted himself on the back ford. investigating trump trump's children. he ran as ths the e self-proclad trump expert. now, obviously, the focu-proclag his campaign was not makingt ma new york a safer place. it waskik getting donald trump watch. >> i know a lot of people are wondering whoever has this job
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,are they going to convict donald trump? >> tld trump? one issue. >> the times calls brag a talented prosecutor whose successful suit of the trump foundation could be invaluable experience by the investigation. >> he'll take over as the chief atdeputy attorney general in new york city. i oversaw some of the office's biggest cases from exposing illegal behavior by the trump foundation. we know there's a trump i investigation. i have investigated trumnvestigp and his children and held them accountable for their misconduct with the trump foundation. accountable. i also sued the trump administration more than 100 i also sued the trump administration more than 100 times. times.mes. w of the dea investigating trump. when i was investigati the ag's, i sutro over one hundred times for his administration's misconduct and brought a case against the trump foundation and held himthe trum accountabl >> well, we have, let's say, a d.a. doing this, an attorney general doing this in,n the state of new york , going, after one person, one family organization now in a fair jurisdiction in this case, that
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should be thrown out because of what is called prosecutorial misconduct. lledbut this is new york city,th manhattan, where 90% ois if vots may just hate donald trump.90 you think he can get a fair trial in new york city, but don't expect the judgeo ch to change the venue.an this particular judge, well, likely hates donald trump likerk elkely hates donald trump likerk sehe was already very heavy handed with the former cfo of i the trump organization who is now in rikers island over you, s minor tax violations. in other words, this b won't bel fair trial. and sadly, this is probablybl just the beginning. this is going to be a long tsunami of looming charges against trum p right in the middle of far left jurisdictions across the country. e of farnow, if you're a conser, the three places you probablyed don't want to be involved legally, new york city, legally, new york city, county, georgia.guee guess three , what three jurisdiction donald trump three jurisdiction donald trump and by the waywi, alsoth add to
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that a frivolous civil suit from a woman named e. jean carroll alleging some type ofaut sexual assault from the nineteen ninetie fs. according to usa today, she doesn't remember the exact yea r ,but she's claiming that o shea was a victim of a assault in a changing room at a huge department store. around somewhere aroundago, twenty seven years ago. but sh e doesn't quite rememberwith . and coordination with activist judges, prosecutors, democratst, they are.is i think the president is right . rs this is their attemptheit to distract completely one candidate from the twent from they twenty four election. is that interference you decide by using the courtintertpaoerpba political weapon? . that's certainly novel. now, in doing so, g the they're trying literally turning the country into a banana republic. into where what hunter biden can purportedly take money and make deals with china and russia and ukraine. how much money did ru the bideney did family make with russia?ly how much wer make these business deals with china? u
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how much money did hunter actually make in ukraine? and whatkr about about the dozen countries that james comey has e been talking about? and out of the business deals they made, how much money thaty they themselves take, did they pay taxes on all of that money? did they always cut out 10% for the big guy? or, as as complained on his lap, he pays half his income to pops? as anyone face consequences.youd your fbi has had that laptop o from since december of 2019. >> does that sound like equal justice and application of our laws in america? y whera country where what jim r is an fbi director can takehe tp a fisa application where it says on the very top verified sign his name to it. sign his name to it. the information not verifiedin,e was unverifiable. three and he signed it three separatep times. wouldn't that be committing fraud against the court, lying to a judge and ended up and resulted in spying on an american presidential candidaten and president? no consequences atces at a all
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whatsoever. we live in a country now where hillary clinton mishandled top secret classified information, then wipe the evidence clean g e evidence clean with something called bleach spit, something none of us had heard of u of p to that point and never see the inside of a courtroom. no reasonable prosecutor would ever prosecute, according to comey. but comey, of course, now exposed himself. today's a good day, the day that donal d trump got indicted. if you are a republican, a conservative, or if your lasts name is trump and you so mucht n as spit on the sidewalk oryourse jaywalk, you better brace yourself because the strong ar m of the law is coming for you.adt and it's sad to say, butt th there's not justicere in america tonight as it should be . we don't have equal justice. l c we don't have equal application of our laws. and guess what? our when you don't have both, when you don't have both, you might as well takese your constitution and shredded because every law is based on that one important document. now,t on of course, when you hae a fair trial with a jury of your peers or are you going
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to have to go into a venueo ha where nine out ovef ten peoplela don't like your political leanings? you know, what do you believe in free speech? do you believe in free and fair elections anyway , as we speak, democrats are now spitting on our constitutio forn for chep political gain. and mark my words, if they getwd aways, a with this great country that we love, that so manyso m people thought bled and died for as the great america republic will never be the same again. here with reaction, formeron president donald trump's lawyer ,attorney joe tacopina is with us . joe , let me lettacopina mwitheh this this indictment with you, because, you know, all muc thirty four counts are pretty much the same, with the exceptiothn of where the funds come from. for example, look at the first count grand jury. crime new york , by this indictment, accuses the defendant of a crime of falsifying busineg bs records in the first degree in violation of penal law. one seven five point one zero committed as follows and then
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it says the defendant in the county of new york and elsewhere on or about february 14 .7 2017 with intent to defraud and intent to commit other crime and aid and conceal the commission there of madee and caused a false entry in the business es records of an enterprise. to wit, an invoice from michael fromn. an invoice from michael now, that's where it gets a little different. can you explain to me whatcan yo the intent to defraud intent to commit another crime? concel what is that other crime and to aid and conceal the commission thereof?reof. do you know what the do you know what the that they're talking about here? well, you know, normally when the indictment clears that up for you, when you get that rs iyou, when you get that here it up for you here. it didn't.t it doesn't. it simply says that it'ssiness r a false business record , s yoas you cited properly with t indictment reads for the attempt or intent to defraud or aid and abet the commission of a crime orr
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to cover up another crime. now, let's be clear. the first count is a misdemeanor. without that misde added languae about the other additional crime, it's a misdemeanor. obviously,it's a it couldn't brg a misdemeanor count any more . >> statute limitations is long gone. misdemeanor account. the statute ofcount. so they cobble together a few misdemeanors and call it a felony. gothe problem with that is let's guess what they're talking about when they sa.y another crime without identifying in the indictment, which to me is striking. no, there'egals a legal requiret for them to do it, but it's standard operating procedure to doperatino anyway that they s be talking about federal campaign election laws, because that's all there was a federal. campaign. it is clearl iy not a crime und fec laws to settle a civil case resolved that civi l case with personal funds and then not notify the fec, even ifrule you're in the middle ofs if a campaign, because the rule is if that payment would have been made irrespective of, the campaign, which here
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clearly would have, that's what was made of personal funds. f >> there is no fec obligation. that's what bradley smith,tion the former fec chairman, hasis d already said . so this indictment wasict a disappointment in one regard and another regarded was r released because they didn'tegat anything else. i just don't know how they think that square peg. . round hole. so alvin bragg on thatg in commercial that you played on ,l which is more powerful thanl o i assure you, will be partur of our motion to dismiss one site ,that commercial, whenasked abou he's asked about, you know, going after donald trump, the question was not even ann articulate question is are you going to convict donald trump? well, before we get there we conviction, we have to getge the investigation, the charges and then the conviction. but we wencht right to convictis and at the break then correct. and he said that's priority or issue number one , really. o yoreu were turning off. e go >> you had no access to evidence. let me go through this indictment now. when they referenceymen the payments, they're all ints 20 , 17 .rr >>ec atly,m i am i reading that
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correctly? all 30 for charges? charges?at. i am correct on that. right. okay, so when i have this otay, so when i have this in 2017.heth >> right. yeah. in otheryments the words, the ps they're alleging took place in 2017. now this is michael cohen's lawyer's letter to the fec he'ser's letter to the fec and he's saying in february ofan 2018 that none of these things happened. so their star witness nohappenee going to defend his own lawyer's words? did his lawyer lie? did michael cohen lie? i know he's an admitted serial liar. i know he's a convict.liar but to those states , match up to you. is there an issue there inch u? they'rre an issue there inch u? terms they're saying the money was paid in twenty , seventeen and michael cohen's attorneys say i'm right here, that nothing at allrneyg righ happend by twenty eighteen? >> can you help me with that? t? >> no, iou help me with that? t? nor can what i can help you with is none of it all matters. yes. michael cohen is constitutionally incapable of tellingmichael cohen the tr
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he, he every day he switchess th a story from one to anotherr das to another. he just said sean, four days ago that when he pled guilty in federal court, now he's a new man. he hascoa new a new lawyer, anu going anti trump now instead omf tpro trump and all the things swore to in the past are now t not true.true when he pled. guilty in federal court. >> he's just said a few days ago that he really was wasn'tt guilty. he was forced to plead guilty to protect his family. well, thenhi he committed perjury. so let's add that little c bitof dishonesty and felony to the litany of criminal michael cohen. but i can' wt helpit you with it because it doesn't make sense.it but here's the kicker, john .'se one other kicker. it doesn't matter even if michael cohen were telling the truth and even a brokenn wee clockworks is today, right? even if he was telling i the truth, it still doesn't amount to a crime because there day.nt to a crime because there is no fec violation. and that is sothere is vital ins case. there was no reporting obligation. you know what's really funny when we talk about selective thi prosecution and this is very important, mos vt reporting vioa
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violations of campaign finance law are almost always never prosecuted as felonies. almost always. never. they're normallys felonies give. you want a great example? hillary clinton just recently, g her campaign was giveniv a fine trump is now indicted for, for steele dossier payments. those were payments for dirt digging, okay, that fall squarely within campaign finance laws. the only purpose for thosely puo payments to get that dossierymew on the on the fake trump russia stuff that he russia, which provedak to be a hoax. all of that was done with campaign funds. all of that was exclusively for the purpose of the campaign. unlike the personal resolution of a civil claim that donalde cn trump did. do yet yet they don't want hillary clinton's campaign. and hillary clinton marked legahillary clinton marked fees. >> okay, sl o let me.
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and she was fine. she was fined and he's indicted for a personal expenditure which work for legal services. now, based on the fact that alvin bragg ran to go after donald trump and he made it that a campaign promise, would that be a possibility for recusal? th >> are you going to put forth a motion for a change of venueg or you're going to put forwardto mo you're going to put forwardto misconduct?tion about or selective prosecution considering this has never happened? >> last question. >> yes, we're going to pute goin forth all sorts motions.t go look, we just got this indictment today doesn't really help us that much. wee have a statement of facts. we'll get and get some discovery and some evidence. and we have four months to make md we have four months to make but i will telakl you, a nmoiso to dismiss is coming on several grounds. prosecutorial misconduct, selective prosecution for sure. will be two of them.pr legaosl insufficiencies, another one . but but wea havcle a clear casf selective prosecution.
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if this man's name, statute of if this man's name, statute of not he would>> not be prosecuteb . >> we're looking at statute ofud limitations. there's a whole host of of motions that's going, you know. >> all right, let me here and i my opinion.t, let me here and i >> all right. joe this case won't see a jury, in my opinion. all right. joe tacopina, thank you. >> all right.s arraignmen following his arraignment, donald trump then left york new this evening. he arrived back at mar-a-lago in florida. look at this video that was up.e look at this. shok at this. showing their support forpresid the former president . you can see right there. well, ru n the wholwee vide'lo provided by trump, social media adviser dance corvino. media it's on twitter. if you wan t to see even more ofa it yourself. that is a prettypr impressive statement here with reaction. the host of life, liberty levine, we call him the greatlei one . >> mark levin is with us .th us. >> mark levin is with us .th us. grhow are you? >> you have a great legal mind. your constitutional scholar. you are the chief of staff to ronald reagan's attorney . reagangeneral, ed meese. you know a lot about the law. l let'aws get your take on the lar
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specifically in this case. and this indictment. >> well, first of all, one ofto the things on top of everythingn else is there has to be an underlying crime right on . >> people are saying, well, what is it? t whatwhat underlying crime did donald trump commit ? he didn't commit any underlyingl crime and he wasn't chargeyid with any underlying crime. he wasn't charge.he wasn't charo election violations, even though that's notlathou the jurisdictiongh. ctio >> the d.a., there's nothingda here. but i want to ge.t into something here. somethi >> donald trumngp is a historice figure or they wouldn't be doing this. they wouldn't be doing this.oinv there wouldn't have been a january six committee. there wouldn't have been a mueller criminal investigation thatcommitte woult have been too phony impeachments. listen to this, america. there wouldn't. been a warrant which is inexcusable and unconstitutional. wawhich ist, in my view. and fbi swat team sent to his t home there had been in the course of the last few mon monthsth, five grand juries controlled by democrats over
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what you would have thought. >> this man took money from the communist chinese. ve thougn >> you would have thought his son took money from the communist chinesm e. >> you would have thought he's the criminal of the senate. exactly did hee do?e so they have to concoct all crie these phony crimes because hs e didn't do anything.da so the manhattan d.a. should be disbarred not only because of the way he campaigned, c because you know what? t this is that a pre law student shouldn't even put in front ofon a judge.wo, that's number one . number two , letitia james , in albany looking for crimesd and then goes after civil suits . she's another one who should be disbarred for the way that she campaigneddisbar. the legal profession is an embarrassment right now that judges humiliation right now, they need to get their in gear and get their act together and get this country back instead of giving a rubber stamp. behavi all this behavior, that'sorber number one . we havone.e a democratin new yo attorney general in new york , a democrat, d.a. in manhattan,ic a democrat in atlanta,he
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a democrat appointed by the democratc attorney general for the biden administration in washington, dc. ration in what's going on here?e this party wants to change w the supreme court. inate they want to change the senate. they want to eliminate the filibuster rule orate eliminate the electoral college. they're attacking the first amendmentht. first they want to eliminate the second amendment. they're violating the fourth and the fift h amendment. you know what this is ?. this is tyranny. ou know now, donald trump is a c figure. you think if he was mitt romney ,they give a ? no, no. you think if franklin was a bush that they'd give a damn?o >> no, look at trump today. he gives his speech at mar-a-lago. this is a man who's committed to fighting these abuses, who's committed to fighting these marxists, who's committed to fighting the tyrann m y. he talkse about securing the border. they don't want to secure the borderey don't want to secu he talks about sound money.ant o they don't want sound money.un he talks about building up the military. they want to militar
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y. y. they hate the cops.i d on and i coul.d go on and onecon and on. look what he did to our economy. look what he did with energyh en independence. he was supposed to be barack obama's third term with hillary clinton and he stopped them. bak and this is payback.. and they're not going to give up. erican we, the american people, need to stand behind this guy.r repun there's not another republican that i can think of c who can fight back and fight back this way. way. this way. i can't sa y i like others.some o i really do. i think some of them wouldpresi. at this time, at thi wouldpresi. be great presidents.moment but at this time, at this moment, with these american marxist movements taking over, with soros funding, these prosecutors crime up the , he's the guy and they know it. and let me tell you something else. tas one other thing. one mr. bragg has chinese. he's broken. yeah.s look at what china is doing. t look at as they try to fill
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the void left open by america, d not leading the free world ..wh look at what's happeningat's riw before our eyes. dangero look how dangerous that is .us and the alliances that they're creating. >> and let me say something else. say somewhile i have a minute od left, this d.a. in fulton county, atlanta, is another hack. phone and s the idea that a president picks up the phone and says something votehe phone and says something some more votes and you're going to say that that'say a crime. every precinct worker, everyr, ward leader, i have no i doubt that she's picked up the phone and said the same thing during her elections. that's not he a crime. where and thisth in washington, d.c., who they dragged back from the hag who has a horrendoushorn record of overcharging, he's bringing in servicedo peope and the secret service and all the rest of our documents matter of our documents matter and mar-a-lago, hey, we got documents. d sear we went in search, found more documents. really. somore documen how the hell is t obstruction? that documents are still there?r
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nobody destroyed them. nobody sold them to the enemy . why are you acting like this? is the crime of the century, for god's sakes? j 6th and then january 6th, war they're trying to dust off old civil war statutest and confederate statutes to apply against a former president of the unitea d party states . the democrat party is trying i to destroy the republican party and they're going to succeed if thisthey're going to succeed if the democrat party's trying to choose the republican nominee, the democrat part y has been hijacked by marxisty radicals. that's what thismarxis guy is in manhattan. that's what they are in atlanta. that's what all these polls are. and that's what's goinmag on ina this country right now. victor davis hanson is correct.t we are in a revolution. guy and this guy, donald trump, is standing up to it like verylr few can, and they are trying to destroy him. >> and you know what do and you know what >> y they're going to make g a martyr out ooif because theres nobody else thatg could stand p to this and withstand this dayia
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in and day outnd.s da the way he does, they're going to make a martyr out of him fore liberty. and i'm done. that's it.tyr him for liberty. and by the way, it started frome day one when it came down doy one when it came down the escalator and now he's got tsunami of of legal actions again against how anyone wouldho be able to bifurcate or compartmentalizeo their time and attention to running a campaign and dealing to with all of this.ow how you do it i don't know how you do it. great one . mark levin, thank you. hemmer s here now with more america's news co-hosts, our own bill hemmer is with us . bill , let's get to the news. aa basically, the take away thatsit i got from the president and his speech tonight. i he gave a history from the the moment he came down that escalatoe dor, trump tower.towe, it has been nonstop, never ending year in b, year out. investigations, three years ofee russia. r hoke's mueller investigation to impeachment's. >> and now here we are with the first of what are many legal issues that he is facing. issues that he is facing. what is the reaction you are
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getting from our viewers? sean, good evening.gettin good to be with you.rs? >>od to be with you.rs? and also g talked about the jude in this case and the d.a. as well. the juwe'll see how far he goesk with that. w new york was a mess today. mesyou saw for yourself, sean, throughout the entire city just just listening to the city just show for the past 30 minutes or so on on what happens next. donald trump will be back in new york scheduled to be before this judge in early december, december 4th. >> that's a monday 4 . that's a monday 4 all the pre trial issues beforer that do not require hisid presence. but the judge said he go gt to e back here eight months from now. so here eight we'll see how that ge a couple of things here.s just what is the trial strategy? what does that look like?wh whatat are a the legal issues tt you challenge? you're talking to joe tacopina. a moment before i was talking to james truste earlier tonight, and you mentioned that , do you challenge the venue on new york? >> voted for joe bimbettey mo more than 80%. >> is that viable to you? get a judge convinced of that?
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i don't know. do you challenge the statute oty limitationous? maybe. but we trustee said was after there was so much leaked o on behalf of the indictment, he was, quote, happily surprise with the content that he found e today. nt tand there wasn't much of a surprise, according to him, what happens if this gets to trial? you know, tacopina is arguing that. he says it'l what happel never go before a jury. maybe he's right. but how do you prevent that? what do you do? how do you take it on trust? he says it's not a terribley sad thing to hav ie a star witness like michael cohen.ichael like michael cohen.ichael in the credibility ofin the process with a guy like a gy cohen on the stand l. in fact, he was on another network tonight, still talking again. weain. continues to change if not going through time. a couple of questions here. the trust he has, how was the case revived?ad. whatcase revived?ad. what changed? and sean, i think it's worth worth repeating, in mid-december of ya last year, alvin bragg got a conviction for the trump organization. and also alan wisenberg, the former accountana coon ft fr
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donald trump, is serving time attorney omp, is serving time he's seventy six .ot a rosalyn, i believe, also gotctig a conviction against the trump organization and in january , they issued a fine of one point six dollars million that had to be paid. t time it was shortly after that time that this grand jury was seated. was there somethins seatedg in e that bragge saw that couldaw? be presented during trial? that's somethingt remainseen. to be seen. okay, back on the issue, what i did not realize is that youo e could file a motion fornted the minutes that represented for the grand jury. why is that important? because then you could find the wording for how , in, ho the words of trustee, how doeshw the law apply in a case like this now? and i thincoulk there could bedn discovery, a lot of informationf on behalf of trump's attorneys that they will learn aboutorne the process in there. p thenprocess in there. p then what do you do you get before a judge, before december and you push forase. a dismissal of the case? i don't know i f you can get that in new york city. . >> maybe you can.ca but in the words trustee one last time, sean, he believes if they can makebefo a case before this judge, afterr digesting the news, they gotoulb
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dismsting the news, they gotoulb it would be dismissed in a newl york minute., >> right.th >> right.th weno appreciatllowine. now, following donald trump'sd arraignment album, bragge, he had a press conferencea pres dug which he repeatedly dodged reporters questions. >> take a look for yourself. this gray says that also business records indicate that concealing other crime. but the indictment does not say what those crimes were.re we are assuming perhaps that they might be allegedly. i'm wondering if you can specify what waselection. >> we're all struggling. so let me let me say, as an doe initial matter ofno idthe indictment, specify becauh the law does not require. >> all right. here with reactionw , fox news a contributor jonathan turley. jonathan , thanks for being with the president in his speech tonight. and you had an opportunityth to read the indictment. i want to get to that inunity to a second. but in his speech tonight, he
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gave a history lesson of all o the things that he's hadndure. to endure, russia, russia, that was a three year long lie and it was a hoax. i'm proud to say on this program, we ended up beingight proven right time and timen, sth again, starting with the horowitz report. our information was correct. the rest of the media got it wrong. i want to ask you this.th when youis loo k at russia, when you look at ukraine, when you look at impeachment, number ukraine, impeachment number two. wh two en, when you look at now he's facing this case ins facing new york , possibly one in georgia, you have a special onorgia, you have a special counsel and multiple investigations there at some point.t well, first of f allirst, have ever seen this in americanin history? am does america at thi look at this and say, why?say, why? why is this one man being why are they going after him this way nonstop? they goingwell, it has been unr there's no question about that..
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and things like the russianke te collusion investigation, it wasy really shown to be unfounded at the very beginning. the fbi was told that they were likely relying on russian intelligence, disinformation that were part of the steeleth dossier.e so there are legitimateon questions of a lot of citizens of whether the criminal justicee system has been weaponized. >> i think that what is different here is that it's very hard to come up with any rationale for what bragge has been doing here. this was an indictment thatctmet fulfilled his his pledge during the campaign to effectively bag donald trump. so it's an indictment that came through a very concerned process where it was verys very political . and his two prosecutorssi resigned. they had a public campaign gnedto pressure him. one wr one wrote a tellot all book.te i mean, these are the types of things that were shocking
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to many of us in the bar. >> but i have to say that what i saw today in this indictment, i didn't expect i did not expect that at this historic moment that alvin bragg would leave such gaps in the indictment. i was nok t the only one . i mean, there were expertsre exr on every networkts scratching their heads and asking, what is he being charged with ? now, that's a horrible situation to be. e situatio and , you know, there's a call of history here. now, bragg says, i don't have buw, bragg says, i don't have becamet the first prosecutoro i to indict a formerct president n >>d don't you think you shouldh tell him? and the americanat jonathan i what exactly you're alleging?e could i read every chargegrand the same way the grand jury or the county in new york by thisdd indictment accuses the defendant of falsifying business recordsanof in the fit degree in violation ofio penal code one seven five point
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one oh, the defendant inry o the county of new york and elsewhere on or about. they give a date with the intent to defraud an intentrimea to commit another crime and aidd and conceal a commission of c end conceal a commission of c of business records of anwi enterprise to it and invoice to whoever. u >>ar okay, you're a professor of law. can you explain that to me? what is the other crime? r >> well, that's exactly t hat'the problem. y thand during his press confere ,he said maybe it's a new york election violation, which hascr. been odd since this was a federal election. maybe it's a federal electionvit violation. >> hio d toio but what is very clear heree is that he doesn't have a federal election violation, at least not in my view. vie >> and the view of many othervio people, including senator experts, it thisexpe payment would not constitutert a federal election contributione
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.ntf justic >> and that's one of the reasons why the department of justice likely did not pursue it. host >> so there's a host oflems problems here that will havewill to be resolved up front. but they just set a date tillda december.just set a date tillda december. so this has to hang over a candidate for the presidency. idate fountil december when i tk there are threshold problems here that could lead thresho tos dismissal. >> all right. let me ask you one last question, if i can. and i thin k this is veryod important for everybody to understand here.. >> we now are looking at forng donald trump or what he's looking at. he's now a presidential candidate is what will becom e tsunami of legal issues that i would imagine are going con to consume many, many hours of his day and that would be the jean carroll civil suit from yes twenty seven years ago. but ty seven years ago. year it happened, but an alleged assault in a changing room and a huge department store in new york city.
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then you have, of course, the georgia case. if, in fact, an indictment comes in there. i've read the transcript multiple times.ctment c i havele times.ctment c i have not seen a crime init there. they take one sentence out of what is a very long phone call and they extrapolate that out to be the true meaning ofcall w the call when there's a lot more said. that adds a ton of context.t sad and texture to it, then you now have a special counsel. the two topics thatnow ha i understand they're looking into wouldveal be january 6th and the records issue at-lag mar-a-lago post rate. so my question to you is , how do you run for president knowing that to go through that that legag l rigmarole is going to take probably years? >> it is going to be years. it's very likely that none of these cases can be resolved before the election. and then it gets very, very odd because for example, on the federal side, the department of justice does not believe that it can indict
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a sitting president . so unless they indict and tryree him before the election, it's not clear how they would proceed. proceed. he can also, by thd.e way, self pardoned for federal s offenses on the state side. >> theseoffe two statens casese are exceptionally weak. the weakest is manhattanweak.. we don'test is manhattanweak.. we don't even know what w the case is . even after the filing oft th the indictment, george ,georgi i think, is very weak. nt the argument that his statementt to go find me theseme votes constitutes a crime, doesn't ficonstitut with with the entire transcript. you know, the interpretation of donald trump will be obvious. he was just telling them that mu was just telling them that to overturn this election. he only needtus to finrnd that number of votes for the election to be overturned. now, you might not agree with that interpretation. rpretatibut there's certainly reasonable doubt there. so the two state the cases, i think, are really fairly anemic.
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i would be surprised if one ofbe them, manhattan, made it to trial for georgia. unfortunately, these are fac it. juror skwraoy, these are fac it. issues. >> so she has a shot at going to trial, showing the man. isse professor, i'll shows. you the crime. sad day for america. my view, professor. thank you.crime. all right. now, given the truly unprecedented and outrageous nature of the latest witch against president trump, you t now have to wonder, how is h the trump familyow holding up here now?p. the executive vice president of eric, trump,ntioned easident of is with us . eric , i had mentioned earlier, this is this has started from the moment your dad came down the escalator and it's going to be a long two years based reading comingg down the road. i could only imagine your family'down thes reaction l of this today. y >>ou well, sure. >> sean,l, sure. we've been living with this fore the last six years. as you said . and i have to say, i've spent every minute of the last thirty six hours with my fatherv and i have neverer seen a stronger, more determined person in my life.nger more determined person.
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my th than anybody i've ever met. he's an absolute rock . rock. and it really dawned on me when we flew into laguardia airport e on his plane, we often motorcade every single intersection was closed. the fdr was closed. there was an army around trump tower. tower. there's an army around the courthouse. there was barricades all over new york , literally. alvin bragg caused thirty eight thousand nypd officers to be distracted from distracted from their job, $20 their jobs, over two hundred mieir jobs, over two hundred they're estimating that tripll was foion for ? r for one hundred and thirty thousand dollar payment. it's insane. ins how many people in new york died because the entire nypd wasn't doing their job because they were dealing with alvin bragg's? ith alvipolitical charade.? >> and people have to put this in perspective, sean. they'rective, sean. they're doing this to persecute a guy that's winning g thisecutthe republican nominan by thirty five points is not even close.nati they wanon bt to take him out o the race. they started the six years agooe when they subpoenaed everythingm ,document 11 million documentsga
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from the trump organization. they couldn't findti a thing.ng and this is what they're doing in the 11th hour when they see how well my father is doing innr the polls because america is failing right now on every single metric. they're going after him. they've weaponizes system. alvin bragg dibragg d. letitia james did it. they're doing it in georgia.e d they're doing it all overthey w the place. they want a tsunami ofan legal challenges to weigh overesident. president and they think he'll give up. the one thing i'll tell you, sean, my father will neverher we ever give up. 's gonna you saw tonight he's going to fight. and i promise you, i mark my words, i'm saying here on your show for the first.e yo, time, i promise you he is going to win in 2020 four americans see through this charade. but, eric , it's clear thatt they want to keep your father boggedto down until twenty ,ow twenty four . they want him wrapped upn iuntn and legal challenges left, right and sideways until l left, twenty four .sidewa i don't know, i don'yst have a crystal ball. i don't know what other. stal we do know what investigations are going on .re we do know that the aegean carroll case apparently
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is moving forward. i don't know what happens in fulton county, georgia, but . con county, georgia, but and if there's any county thatoe would be likely to go afterto your dad in georgia, it's going to be fulton county. and then when you haven a special counsel, you never know where those investigations end up. well, shawn, they want to back him down in washington. >> the too. i he was getting so much done for the american people that guess what? as getting he didn't peachment one , they didn't want to they wanted to distract from his time. you know, he's rebuildingg the military. he was reducing taxes. he was cutting regulation. he wasand , you know, he was hes prioritizing religious freedom. he was prioritizing american first, you know, peace irst,n pa the middle east. the middle east. he guess what they were doingh at the same time, letting you go for doing absolutely nothing wrong. let's impeach him again.er suprt let's go after a supreme court ju, you know, makeupreme court up stories that they werethnkin drinking beer and doing all sorts of things when that eve clearly wasn't happening. that's all they've ever tried to do. him to do. him him down. and that's exactly their plan. righth triedt. .
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or they tried to bankrupt him.tp clearly, that wasn't goingpen. to happen. they try to bonk him dow tn. wh that wasn't going to happen.ap so they go aftergo his family. they go after his lawyers. fthey go after his friends.. they go after anybody in his inner circle. ody insean, this is their plan. they're not even discrete about it. this is what the other party does. they weaponizes the system the, weaponizes every institution that they can put their clawsvey into. into that's what they do. they will win using anyn. methodology that they can. it's not about fair elections anymore. it fai at the ballot box. it's using any method to gain ae an unfair advantage over your opponent. that's what the democrats will do. r and ou they put my father and our family through .family through and i'm telling you, the american people look through it, they see it. they understand what the washington swamp is , loud the washington swamp is , loud foclear americans .ica. whclear americans .ica. when we got off that planene a and you saw tens and tens of thousands of peoplnd e lininglmof peoplnd ai palm beach international airport to mar-a-lago, wavingng american flags at trump.p 2024 twenty , twenty four flags.
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sean, the love is incredible. no one's ever seen that kind of love. and this is coming offki the dae that the 44th president of the united states was indicted in. the streets are lined with people literally singing god bless america. the steric trump, thank you. sig >> i appreciate your time, as always.od america.s.od >> joining u joining us now, south carolina senator linsey graham.ah senator linsey graham.ah one of the president's staunchest allies. you've endorsed hiprhestm for 2. twenty , twenty four . you watched his speech tonight. he gave a longhis sp history. hearing it in total is kind of jarring, isn't knowing what he's facing now. >> it's pretty jarring, is it,ih inat that you have it. >> >> well, they'v te taken a wrecking ball to his whole life. and , you know, there's a backlash brewing . es what makes a banana republic? it's not about what you did.rep? it's who you are.ed states. he lieho you are.ed states. states . he lied under oath. d undeabout allegations. allegationt allegations. did he get prosecuted? no, he lost his law license for five years. hillary clinton was the candidatesh
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democratic candidate for president . she destroyed thirty three thousane destd d es and people on our staff tookr a hammer to a hard drive where they prosecuted for obstruction of justice. yo n in biden's business dealings, is anybody going after their family like they did eric's family in new york ? was the off ramp her e to win20 to twenty, twenty four ? we twenty, twenty four ? we have the house. we have three great senate pickup opportunities to give us the senate back in 20202024 four , three democrats in deep red states that are up in 2020 four . we can take back the senat.e and president trump can get a second term to finish out his agenda. a secothere's a lot of love in the streets, but love ain'tve going to do it, pal. they're trying to ruin this d country.it they're trying to destroy president trump tonight. i have set up a website. i don't get one penny, buti want i want you to give money tonight to help president trump. he's raised eight million dollaro s. this l this is legal garbage started.ed don't stop now. 70%.
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the money you give tonight goesh to help president trump. 30% will helelp take back the senate. we got pk a chancupe to pick ui three senate seats and very red states held by democrats and now want to wake up after20 the election in 2020 four with2 republection in 2020 four with2 a republican house, a republican senate. swearing and donald trump raised his right hand swearing to beneed the president of the united states that we need you are noy helpless outhelple there, folks. the off ramp to a bananan republic is to win in twenty , twenty four , the house, the senate, and reelect donald trump. truhow can you help? you can pray. you can vote , and you can give linsey grammy.com blow up the internet tonight. helpin this man help america stl while we still have a country worth saving. >> do you >> do you believe that equalbee justice under the law, an equal application of our laws is dead? >> laws is it may be , but we gt one last chance here to straighten this out. i just told you a democratich lies under oath regarding matters.
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they're not prosecuted. a democratic secretary of state running for president destroysys thirty three thousand emails under subpoena. they're not prosecuted. this is selective prosecutioproi is legal. garbage in new york is it'sy motivated. ast chance and we do have one last chance to not become a bananarepublic republic. twenty , twenty four is the most important election in my lifetime. america literally state as we know it is am t stake as we know it. i'm sorry i'm so upset, but please help president trump. a5 if you can afford five or ten bucks. affor if you can't afford a dollar, fine. just pray. make sure yodoll.u vote as early as you can in your state. don't risk anything any more .c. vote as soon as you can. pray for this country.coun praytr for this president and if you got any money to give, give it. lindsey graham, .comive,. m it doesn't go to me.to it goes to helping this president and taking back the. senate. let' let's stand ups st for this president . let's stand up for this country
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and let's don't take this anymore. >> we alt l can help. we all can senator linsey graham, thank you. here now help. reaction. fox news contributors kellyanne conway, ari fleischer, with us. all right.o who wants to go first? wanti'll i'll give it to you, kellyanne. jump in at the kellyanne. >> oh, i thank. well, yes, sir. so one thing i know you wantedvh to cover tonight, which i thinko is incredibly important, is what we've seen all along, ee ever since donal trd did go downesca the escalator, which is the media's core job, is to get the story wherever the facts lead.tr but their obsessioy wherever thh get donald trump, despite the facts they gave michaeeyl l jovanotti and audience on cnn. 7 seventy four times within ten weeks, he broke a record a that's an average of more than once a day. is he's nowno serving multiple sentences for extorting nike, for stealing money from different clients, includingy stormy daniels. wanted to say one thing aboute h inwhat alvin said today. he sai alvin said today. he said that the second crimend that donald trump made
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committed was trying to pao y hush money to suppress negativec information that could have affected his election chances. i callti b.s. on that completely. there was no person who wass no going to get in our way infocusn 2016. i was focused on one woman one womacused on one woman and her name was hillary clinton. n,i was the campaign manager. donald trump went to eight, nine stops a day. t election he won that election fairly and squarely. she ignored the voters sq ofgnored the voters states like michigan and wisconsin. we both right in therecons and i the case right to them. the biggest crimgg true that dop trump has committecommitted with evidence is winning the presidency. in 2016, alvin bragg2016 and the rest cannot get over that one that we had a betterwe better connective tissue wit candidate, a better message,ople better connective tissue with the people. and ever since the momencet he won, ari and sean, so many people have been so thirsty to just take it away from him, pretend he's illegitimately elected. and i will say this abouy t that . michael cohen wanted to have a bigger role in the campaign. . and i think that he put all
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this together. you read the 2018 letter. he said nobody the trumpw campaign knew about it. nobody the trump organization knew about it. that's true. as farou that'sas as i'm concerned. coat'sas as i'm concerned. as far as i testified underd oath, he wanted to have anor outsized role. i wanted to say.king tha but for me, making that payment, donald trump would not have won non e. that is true.n none of that is going to hold up. this man won three hundred and four electoral votes, hadwih nothing to do with some foreign person. >> zero. all right. perst to get ari fleischer, leta get your take here. we havri, let'e a former presidr the first time today indicte fd and in a court of law and charged with thirty four felonies. lookged with, i look at it.ever every lawyer i've talked to has looked at it. there's noknt one person that be believes that this is a legitimate charge. they don't even knows a how .'t even knows this is a convoluted new novel, legal theory that they broughtp. in just for donald trump. thougt but your thoughts watching today? >> hmm. you know, one of the raps against donald trump is that heh violates the norms. and as a result, the democrats had no choice. p nod no choice. p showing what's happened to donald trump is actuallyio
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the real violation of the norms. by he was impeached the first time ,a process that did not even the go through the judiciary committee. they wreck the bipartisanjudici intelligence committee at the hands of adam schiffcommittt donald trump. the second time they tried to impeach him, knowingrough they would not succeed. they did even go through that process. they and shoved it down everybody's throats.throat and now yonow u have a prosecutr inyou have a overwhelmingly lop, ideologically democrat, eighty five to 15 , democrat to republican, manhattan goingdo aftenaldr donald trump. here's what i hope happens next. i ho hope that o conservative prosecutors in rural areas of america indica it bill clinton, indict hillary retu clinton, indict hillary their only way to stop this and return to the norms is fors one side to realize if they go too far , the other will matchtc them. and that is not the way we settle disputes in america. they should be settled at the ballot box, not through the courts. but republicans cannot unilaterally disarm. you can't let them try
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to interfere in the twenty twenty four election by doing it to donald trump. what they're doing and i say that is somebody who will criticiz e donald trump when he goes too far . the democrats are violatinge e normthe norms and they're especially doing it through this case this week. caseak in manhattan. >> oh, you got a lot of low lot hanging fruit with hunter biden. and i think the american people need to know how much money didd the biden family do with russia? how much money biden in business deals that they have with china, how much of the money in these deals did they get to pocket? >> did he mean it when he sai said he gives half his income to pops? wad s he really complaining for paying for all the repairs at his father's home? was father's home? was the big guy really joe biden? did the big guy purposely fire a prosecutor in ukraine to protect her son who was being paid but admitted he had no experience? i think those are all goodxperie questions. ari, thank you.nce. and thank you. kellyanne, moore, hannity. straight ahead, think you know
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