katie. >> i will be here tomorrow. last day of the week. ainsley is back next week. >> i'll be on "the five" tonight playing myself. >> have a great thursday. see you on friday. >> bill: good stuff. thanks, good morning. quote, reasonable and fair. that's what president biden calls his plan to cancel student loans. begging to differ are republicans, tax experts and some of the borrowers who stand to benefit. the list is longer. good morning, i'm bill hemmer. hello at home. >> dana: good morning. i'm dana perino and this is "america's newsroom." this is sending some pretty bad signals to a lot of americans and yet the democrats are full steam ahead. you will see they can barely answer any questions that americans have about it. the president announcement is drawing criticism across the

political spectrum pledging to cancel up the $10,000 for those making less than $125,000 and year and twice that for pell grant recipients. >> bill: $300 billion is the latest hand out on a tab topping $4 trillion. republicans call it reckless. >> this sends the wrong incentives telling people if you did pay your loan on time and you did the stand-up thing, you are a sucker. >> this is just another example of politicians saying give it to me and then we'll take it from the people. >> of all the dumb things joe biden has done this may be the dumbest yet. it is stiff competition. >> bill: maria bartiromo has analysis. madison all worth and the cost to taxpayers. hello, jacqui heinrich at the white house. >> the administration just won't say it even though we already know the answer.

the press secretary yesterday repeatedly punted on who is paying for this. this morning the education secretary wouldn't even talk dollar amounts. >> how much does this cost? >> you know, depending how many people take advantage of it. let me remind folks. >> what's the range of possibilities, mr. secretary? >> well, like i said, those projections are still coming out. >> the answer is a minimum of $300 billion according to penn wharton. 43 million borrowers, biden canceling up the $10,000 in federal loans or $25,000 with pell grants if you make less than $125,000 a year or $250,000 for couples. everyone else's payments are -- those are capped at 5% of your discretionary income. if you went to a trade school or paid back your loans, no

hand-out for you. the president thinks it's perfectly fair. some democrats disagree. obama advisor said it doesn't just pour gasoline on the inflation fire but breaks a campaign promise that all proposals are paid for and last year pelosi said she didn't think it was legal. >> a lot of people think the president has the power for debt forgiveness. he does not. >> yesterday she said his bold action is helping to empower every american to reach fulfillment. all but certain to face court challenges. biden got it done passed after 9/11 that assures people aren't worse off financial during a national emergency. they argue the emergency is the pandemic even though they just said it was over at the southern border when they moved to lift title 42. >> bill: what's up is down,

what's down is upside down. thank the lawnmower for lowering the temperature at the end. talk to you soon. >> dana: for more on how this will affect you the taxpayer let's go to madison talking to everyday americans and getting their take on the hands-outs. what did you hear? >> you know, from the people that are in favor of this, many of them have student loans of their own. some of the 26 million americans that stand to benefit. the others who could see $300 billion added to our national debt say they don't feel the same way. >> i think the overall debt of the country, who will pay for it? someone is going to of to pay for it. >> you go to school, you pay your own way. we don't need the government. >> trying to get your first home, raise a family, extra burden. if we can do it why not? we give money everywhere else. >> it shouldn't be made without considering it comes with consequences and

responsibilities. >> i think of my 5-year-old and 6-year-old if they borrow something i try to teach them responsibility and i try that should be the same no matter how old you are. >> people don't feel like this is the right thing. other loans aren't being bailed out. those who paid off their student loans or are on track to they feel cheated. when we talk about the mortgage loans, business loans, credit card debt all still on the table. it is always good to also follow the money. economists are pointing out this does not solve the root problem that college education costs have exploded in this country. meanwhile, if you look at president biden's campaign donations he received more than 64.5 million from individuals in higher education during his 2020 campaign. i also wants to point out people i talked to agree and think the cost of college has gotten out of hand but don't think this is the way to do it. slapping a band-aid and potentially raising the cost of college further and targeting

individuals that might not actually need the help. they agree they think it has gotten too expensive but confused why this is the way the white house is approaching it. >> dana: madison, thank you. >> bill: interesting analysis with maria bartiromo with us now. good morning. can you project the fallout on this? when you also consider that the loan payments have been suspended for almost three years when they will start to resume come january 1 of 2023? >> good morning to you. let me look at my watch. oh, the mid-term elections are 75 days away. this obviously looks like a political stunt. what we're hearing is massive pushback not just from republicans but independents as well. the independent committee for responsible budget are calling this, quote, gallingly reckless saying this is likely to cost between $400 and $600 billion.

it will add up to twice as much or more to the deficit as was just eliminated from the inflation reduction act. so we know that this is inflationary and costly. i want to focus on something that madison just brought us. that is the cost of college, bill. because this is what american families have been complaining about for a long time. larry lindsey from the lindsey group writes this. in 2017 the federal reserve bank of new york estimated that policy charges for student debt over the previous decade had allowed tuitions to rise by 60% more than what would have occurred otherwise. debt cancellation and interest forgiveness will perpetuate the extraordinarily high inflation rate for a college education. that is something that hits american families hard. people want to put their kids through college and yet now it is about to ramp up in terms of

expense. that's what tom cotton tweeted about yesterday as well. >> dana: it's interesting. meghan mccardle talks about this won't be the only time they do this. what about the students next year going into school thinking i will get a loan? where is my pay-out? it almost seems like they're setting something like this up and it is likely to be taken on in the courts and as speaker pelosi said it is not constitutional. where does that leave the lenders as well, maria? what are they supposed to do? >> for starters, i would expect lawsuits from the attorneys general. i just spoke on "mornings with maria" with the attorney general of arkansas. she told me a few minutes ago that she would be happy to join other a.g.s bringing suit against this because he does not have the legal authority to forgive all of this debt.

the bankers are basically looking at this and saying well, you know, prices are going higher, the debt is going away because once you give someone something, it is very hard to take it away. that has been the fight around social security as well for years. once you give an individual something, it is very tough to walk this back. that is a great point and i would expect that this is going to trigger further inflation. what is really bizarre is that sound bite yesterday from president biden when he said i think this is fair. fair? how about all of those students who work morning, noon and night to pay off their student loans for college. how is that fair to those people? yesterday peter doocy did a great job asking the education secretary about this and he said that's right, anybody who already paid out the debt they get nothing. >> bill: indeed, maria, thank you. instant analysis on that.

>> dana: incredible. >> bill: on the economy by the way. want to get to this. economy shrank at a slightly lower pace second quarter. revised to .6. a sliver of good news. >> dana: one of the things when people watch bill hemmer at the board and showing them how close those senate races are, one of them is in ohio. tim ryan is a congressman running against j.d. vance trying to run as a moderate democrat. the guy for the working people. he immediately knew it was a bad decision by president biden for him. as someone paying off my own family's student loans the costs of higher education are too high. i won't read the whole thing. he said instead of forgiving student loans for six figure earners we should work to level the playing field for all americans. expect to hear a lot more of that. >> bill: ohio will be a closely watched race and so is colorado

on our radar. michael bennett, the democrat, has the same idea as well. this is in the mix right now and see how it plays out. california pushing up its climate push. the first in the nation to ban gas-powered cars. that's awfully rich for a state with some of the biggest climate offenders flying in private jets. tell you what's happening on that. >> dana: passengers erupt in panic as sparks fly from the plane's engine minutes after take-off. what caused the fire. >> the mama and papa bear movement roars back to life. parents right platform candidates sweep the polls in key mid-term races. >> we have a responsibility to make sure that the students that come out of our school system understand what it means to be an american. they need to understand that our rights come from god, not from the government.

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if you like your car's gas-powered and like the kind of car you've been driving for decades, you better buy one quickly because very soon here in california there will be no sales allowed of any gas-powered cars at all. take a look at the numbers here and how quickly california intends to move. by 2026, just four years' time more than 1/3 of all new vehicle sales will have to be zero emissions vehicles. by 2031, less than a decade from now, 3/4 of all sales will have to be zero emissions. and by 2035, 100% no gas-powered vehicles. it will be passed and if so

that's the law in california. supporters of u.c. davis say it isn't just about climate change, it is good for california and the world on many levels. listen here. >> we also get rid of oil imports. we reduce oil imports. so that saves both money as well as energy security issues. it resolves all the energy security issues that go along with that as well. so it's a really big deal. it is a big deal because this is the first time a government has put in place a 100% requirement by 2035. >> now there are critics, of course, as well. a former chair of the california gop tweeted last night quote unless california goes 100% nuclear, zero% of these cars will be zero emission. they will rely on natural gas

or electricity from other sources because solar and wind are not reliable energy sources. this is purely posturing. it may be purely posturing, bill, but it seems it is certain to go into effect. here is another thought. around a dozen other states have signed a memorandum of understanding with california to essentially follow california's lead. they might do it at a different pace but if those other dozen states also adopt the ban on gas-powered cars that's a third of the entire auto market in the united states, bill. it's a sea change. >> bill: jonathan, thanks, nice to have you on the freeway in southern california. >> it doesn't line up to the community which we're representing. so now we have a 4-1 parent and student focus. >> they were tired of how parents were being treated at the school board meetings by the majority board members. they were not allowed to speak

or their time was cut and they were fed up. >> dana: two of the 25 conservative school board candidates across florida who won elections this week running on the parental rights platform. parents say education takes center stage in mid-term races across the country. charlie hurt and richard fowler are both fox news contributors and wonderful to have you both. it is interesting because we remember youngkin's race, the off-year election in virginia. came down to education and he drove that home. that hasn't dissipated. this is not just virginia or florida. all across the country, charlie, in texas, san diego, wisconsin, iowa, these issues for parents have come up time and again and i wonder what you this i the impact of a school board election in florida might have or what it could tell us what could be coming this november. >> it is very important and it is indicative of the direction

that i think the political debate is going. obviously we are going through some incredibly politically divisive times. at the end of the day of course it will be something very local and very really common sense that will bring people together and change the direction of politics or give a positive direction to politics. nothing is more personal, nothing is more local than what local official -- education officials are doing with your children. this activates parents. parents care a lot about it. it is not a political thing, it is a common sense thing. what we are seeing in these races and even in a place like san francisco are parents who are concerned about their children being -- enduring these covid restrictions that have very little or no help to the child but actually in many cases hurt the child, or they are being taught rot that is

not going to help them in the world after education and probably hurts them in the short term as well. >> dana: governor desantis declared it as an issue for him and one he cared about and put his shoulder behind it to get these candidates across the finish line to try to help them. do you think that the democrats were caught unaware here or just get your take, how big a deal do you think this is? >> i think this is a big deal and what democrats need to do in this moment is put a microscope on school board races. what you saw happen in florida is the governor who seems to be rather popular in some parts of the state used his muscle and used the political war chest he has and made large investments in school board races. as a result of those large investments he picked up some wins. i think it's very important now more than ever the democratic party think how to make their investment, where they make their investment and what

impact it will have on their perspective voter. >> dana: interesting. yesterday there was a big decision by president biden that he will forgive student loan debt. we have a little bit of sound from students who were asked their take on it. listen here. >> i don't support canceling student loan debt. >> unfair to people who saved before. >> it comes whether it's taxpayers. >> of course, taxes and prices will get higher. >> i don't think he should do it at all. he should care less about the loan aspect of it really to put himself in a good light with younger voters. >> dana: they could have a spot here on cable news. what do you take on this, charlie? you are looking across the country. who will people react to this decision? >> what you receive there from the students what happens when people look at an issue through common sense rather than a

political prism. they say it's fundamentally unfair and therefore they object to it. it is common sense. not a political thing. >> dana: richard, in the "washington post" the editorial board said widely canceling student loan debt takes money from the broader tax base made up of workers who didn't go to college and support the people with education degrees. the threshold does not reflect need or earnings potential meaning white collar professionals stand to benefit. >> i don't know if i agree with that editorial. the facts are this. we've seen multiple times congress as well as the president push important bail-outs for corporations, for bail-outs for the airlines and the laundry list is long. bail-outs for the banks. now we have a bail-out for folks who make under $125,000 a year. those aren't lawyers or doctors, those aren't the ultrawealthy. we talk about dental hygienists

who make $40,000 a year or nurses who make $70,000 a year and monthly income goes to paying down student loan debt. joe biden got hit on the left on this and when he ran he ran because he was a candidate only going to forgive $10,000 of student loan debt. he won on that and committed to that promise. he is fulfilling that campaign promise. >> dana: you might have had a breakfast of apples and oranges this morning. talk to you later. good to see you both. >> take care. >> bill: growing concerns as the fighting rages near europe's largest nuclear power plant in ukraine. how russia's forces could set in motion a nuclear catastrophe. plus the nypd walks the beat trying to keep everyone safe. are they doing something wrong? a message from the new mayor that has some people asking questions today.

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order for officers walking the beat. do not congregate or engage in unnecessary conversation with others in the post other than police necessity. paul morrow a former nypd intelligence officer. you were one of the cops at one time. you guys have to talk at some point. >> you do. i find it perplexing. it has been part of procedures since the beginning to not congregate. let's boil it down. i think what's going on here is that very often police procedure is obscure to folks and they don't understand in many instances the police are mandated to congregate. in this instance the examples they use. you look at the photos in the article we're talking about. it's a sergeant with his cops. he is doing his job. they are supposed to get together. the sergeant is keeping an eye on them. he is finding out what's going on and making sure they are out

there and deploying them. >> bill: earlier this month apparently the mayor was on a bike ride and saw guys standing ton side of the road and said if they're on the route, have them on the route. they shouldn't be congregating together. pat lynch says, heads the union. the order is unnecessary. pretty soon there won't be enough cops to congregate anywhere in the city because of miserable working conditions and low pay are forcing them to quit in droves. they both make fair points. maybe the mayor is on to something and pat lynch as well. >> the mayor was a cop and understands the routines. he is at a detail and making sure. looks like a parade or something. he is making sure they are deployed along the route at the beginning of the detail. so he is making sure let's get these folks spread out. that's what happens at the beginning of the detail. nothing notable about that. this whole thing strikes me as a solution in search of a

problem. let's defall to the metric that matters. across the city arrests are up. the police department is doing their job. they are trying. it is incredible when you think how hostile the system is with what they're trying to do. the bad guy gets out of jail the next hour. they are trying. men and women -- it's miraculous. >> dana: plenty of crime for them to go after if you look at the stats on the board. transit crime up almost 50% burglary and robbery you've seen all those things. hopefully the cops can just do their job. that's what they want. >> they are and they will. >> bill: our former mayor has a new job. deblasio has been hired at harvard. he is going to teach a course on leadership. hough is that going to go? >> i'll be honest. i thought it was a parity. what will he teach? how to show up late?

it is like hiring the coach of a last place team. ifm owe a graduate of the kennedy skoo. they have some terrific people, great professors, wonderful programs. i don't expect bill deblast yosemite to be among them >> dana: what it comes to leadership? >> how to ruin a city without breaking a swae. i don't get what the thinking is here. if he is up there teaching he is not running for something up here. >> dana: that's the thing. he tried to run for congress. that failed. where will he go? academia. >> bill deblasio instructing the future leaders of this country, the chinese and russians must be laughing to themselves. >> bill: thank you. there is a potential nightmare overseas, a nuclear power plant in ukraine.

russian forces reportedly moving military gear closer to reactors and now president biden facing bipartisan calls to take action before it could be too late. alex hogan live in kyiv with more on this. it's getting attention from every corner, alex. what's happening? >> it is, bill. good morning. ukraine's nuclear power agency is just saying that two of the units at the power plant have been disconnected after fires braeng out next to the nuclear power plant. they are in the works to be reconnected and security systems are currently in place. u.s. president joe biden is facing criticism and calls to take action. he received calls from dozens of former senior administration officials as well as experts who are urging the president to step in over fears of the power plant. the u.n. says delegates from the international atomic energy agency might be able to examine

the facility in coming days. the ukraine ministry of defense says russia is increasing its presence there moving armed vehicles within 200 feet of the reactors in an attempt to try to hide the military equipment by basically parking it at the sight. not far away in central ukraine the death toll is only continuing to rise. at least 25 people are dead and dozens are wounded after an attack on a passenger train. ukrainian president zelenskyy speaking about these brutal killings here and around the country on ukraine's independence day. >> five of them burned in a car. 11-year-old teenager died. russian missile destroyed his house. search and rescue operations at the railway station will continue. we'll make the occupiers bear responsibility for everything they have done. >> the bombardment marked six months since the invasion began. another attack on wednesday destroying a shopping mall in the eastern part of the country.

ukraine's arm forces say air raid sirens blaird across the country, the most disturbing day since the start of the invasion. back in the capital, the city has been largely untouched in recent weeks but sirens blaird throughout the day. one of the longest i've heard in a month being on the ground taking place at three in the morning and rockets hit near the city 15 miles away overnight. >> take care. thanks for keeping the story on our radar. thanks. >> dana: the clock is ticking on capitol hill. the department of justice has until noon to have redactions on the affidavit for the search at mar-a-lago. will any decisions be made? kevin, no! not today. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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>> i think d.o.j. will win their argument. with this judge they'll say well, there will be so much information about this reliability of the sources, the specificity of their information. all that leaves us is the conduct of the former president. i think d.o.j. would be more than happy to release that. my concern is that's all they'll release. >> chris swecker knows a lot now. the question is what will we learn? the justice department has two hours to submit its suggested redactions for the affidavit from mar-a-lago. the judge says the argument to keep it all sealed is the right call because of intense public and historical interest. indeed it does. geraldo is with me now. good morning to you. the judge has also said that the number of redactions requested may render it somewhat useless to put it out. at the start geraldo, what do

you think this judge decides? let's start there. >> well, i think that he has got the job of king solomon. a real balancing act between the bureau and their justifiable desire to protect the confidential sources and witnesses and not to blow up a very sensitive investigation to national security. on the other hand, the judge himself recognizes, bill, and we all do the extraordinary nature of this raid on mar-a-lago. a president's home. never been done before. unprecedented. so you have this balancing act. the president has got rights. what the bureau did has some people scratching their heads wondering whether or not it was overkill. now you have the information. d.o.j. will present it to the judge with their cross-outs and the judge has to weigh whether this makes any sense? have they gone too far? are they really using national security as an excuse not to

reveal the relevant information in the documents that they sought? really, the bureau is under tremendous pressure, f.b.i., to justify this raid and on the other hand as the judge suggests, intense public interest. >> bill: one thing on this, trump's side argued we have been cooperating throughout the entire ordeal. and if the judge releases nothing today because of the suggested redactions, all we get as a country and as a people is a three-minute statement on behalf of the attorney general from a week and a half ago. and if there is no movement, geraldo, all this goes back into the vault so to speak. >> as an expert on vaults all i can say he has a tough job. how does the job, how will he make the judgment that you can

redact, cross out a paragraph that has the name of a confidential informant in it? what you don't want is for the exposure now to sabotage any investigation. what if there is, for example, you know, someone saying that there are the instructions on how to build a nuclear bomb in document 162? you know, the judge has to go and will he reveal that the document tells you how to build a nuclear bomb? will it reveal the informant's name, the location? it is a very, very difficult decision. >> bill: you can redact the name of the f.b.i. agent. but if the government claims that there is a document that shows how to build a nuclear bomb, we should know that. all of that is relevant to us. and knowing what the former president kept.

that's relevant. >> it is definitely relevant and we're speculating on what the documents contain. but there is a balancing act between national security and the d.o.j.'s legitimate concerns about revealing secrets. the president's right to have the f.b.i. or the d.o.j. exposed for making a political decision to raid his house. it seems to me -- and i have said this -- mar, is malo. the raid seemed excessive and extraordinary. it was by agreement among all the parties unprecedented. so now you have this balancing act between national security and fairness to the former president. i am glad i'm not in judge reinhart's position because he is not going to win any friends regardless. he will give as much as he

possibly can but he will err, i assume, on the side of caution and we might be very unsatisfied as to the reasons behind this raid into the private home of the former president. >> bill: we'll find out something today. how far it goes we don't know. garland says he deliberated on the decision for weeks. if you deliberate on something for weeks and you think it's a major emergency why do you wait weeks? a lot of questions. thanks for coming on today. >> i know he thinks he is clint eastwood, but he is not. he is an anti-american governor that is really going against everything we stand for. >> dana: eric adams scolding greg abbott after five more buses of migrants from texas arrive in the big apple. governor abbott is accusing adams over hypocrisy over his

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given bonuses to hire more -- the suit claiming life in american express became racially toxic for white employees. company's policies incentivized workers and superviseors to use race as a kej you will. hundreds of white employees were terminated. american express calling it false and without merit and telling fox business the company has a longstanding commitment to living our company values. a number of allegations rising in recent years regarding the credit card giant's initiatives including it invited the great grand some of the nation islam founder to give a talk how capitalism is racist. if you don't like these types of policies don't work there. we're seeing frustration from those that did. i'll send it back to you, dana. >> dana: thank you for following that fours. appreciate it.

♪ >> bill: are you feeling what i'm feeling? >> dana: i dig it. >> bill: drought conditions in ft. worth, texas revealing dinosaur tracks dating back 113 million years. a professor from scotland. he has a book called the rise and fall of mammals. you cover it all, professor. thank you for your time. tell us what you think we have learned from this in ft. worth. let's start there. >> this is a really remarkable discovery and very unexpected. i think a lot of us have seen the news over the last few days. all of these dinosaur footprints emerged in texas. you might think texas, a big state, populated state.

how can we still find dinosaurs there? low and behold the water in the river started drying up in the drought. all of these new dinosaur tracks, 113 million years old emerged from the river bed and i think it is a magical thing. you can go there and you can walk alongside these dinosaurs. i think it brings it home how amazing these dinosaurs were and they lived right here in the same place as we live today. >> dana: based on the tracks you see, describe the types of dinosaurs that would have had those big feet. >> texas 113 million years ago during that period it was a little bit before the t-rexs and dinosaurs that left the footprints were some of the ancestors of those famous dinosaurs. there were meat eating dinosaurs. some are three-toed footprint that look like a chicken.

these would have been dinosaurs the size of a city bus. probably a dinosaur that made those tracks and others made by long-neck dinosaurs. the ones the brontsaurus types of dinosaurs. they were growing bigger and bigger. the biggest one became larger than boeing 737 airplanes if you believe that. >> bill: they eat like percy. professor, when the drought ends and the river comes back, the footprints are covered and then they say another 10 or 20 years there could be another drought and we see the footprints again. what would you say to skeptics who say how did they get there? >> we find footprints. i'm from chicago and been in scotland for a decade. i dig up dinosaur bones and i talk about that quite a bit in the rise and fall of the

dinosaurs and i fight footprints in stones. usually a wave will come in sand and wash them away. imagine you leave footprints in mud and that mud bakes in the sun and gets hard and then it is covered by some sand. that can lock those footprints into stone. maybe it only happens one out of every trillion times an animal leaves a footprint but it does happen and it is remarkable. and we should appreciate it and revel in it. that's what people are doing in texas. >> dana: i would love to take your class. thank you so much. great to have you. fox alert now. no sign of president biden at the southern border as the alarming crisis spirals out of control. his homeland security chief will head to the front lines while still claiming the border is secure. i'm dana perino. >> bill: how do you think his answer was there? i'm bill hemmer, good morning. we talk about a lot of things,

right, during the commercial break how do we know these things are real, they look so perfect? i thought he gave a great answer. >> dana: did you believe him? >> bill: i did, yes. >> dana: maybe mayorkas can walk along the dinosaur footprints while he is in texas. >> bill: he will be there for an update on border operations in texas. he has no plans to meet with reporters. president biden's response to the border crisis. secretary mayorkas visits the del rio sector. at least 376,000 migrants in the past year alone, dana. double the previous year. a local lawmaker calling the administration's handling of all this disgusting and outrageous. >> how many more children have to die and immigrants have to die for this administration to care about the immigrants. they continue to put policies that encourage people to come here to the united states knowing the dangers, knowing

they will have to go through hell to come here to the united states. it is really disgusting and outrageous what is happening in south texas. >> dana: we have received and update on the baby we told you about earlier this week found in critical condition. we're sad to report that that baby did not make it. casey stiegel in texas. >> this is going to be the ninth visit by the way that secretary mayorkas has made to the southern border since this whole crisis began. it is his third trip this year and today he will be over in the del rio sector, as you just said. that's about 60 miles north from where we are. we have confirmed it will not be open to the press and his office not releasing times just saying he will be engaging with front line personnel and surveying operational activity. we have a photographer there

staking it out. the sector meantime that encompasses eagle pass has become the latest ground zero with more large migrant groups illegally crossing here than any other place. you are looking at one live right now from the fox flight team drone about 150 in size this morning as they wait to be processed. it is also where the most migrant deaths have been logged. so the sheriff of this county, which is maverick county, tells us he would rather see president biden or vice president harris visit instead of secretary mayorkas. he said this has gone on long enough. >> i've seen that immigrants are coming through here. somehow getting the message the borders are open. >> for the second time in a week, the feds say migrants assaulted mexican immigration officials and then fled crossing over into the u.s. but agents here in eagle pass were able to locate the three

and return them to mexican authorities. the same happened just days before. that incident involved nine my grants who were returned back to mexico. bill and dana. >> dana: thank you. >> bill: there is a lot more ahead on this. texas governor greg abbott has been at the center of this argument for years. we'll get his reaction that he is getting from mayors as the bus loads of migrants make their way to washington and new york. he is joining us in a couple minutes on "america's newsroom." >> who is paying for it? >> the $4 billion that is going to go back into, as revenue back into this process of paying right their college tuition. >> who? >> dana: white house dodging questions on who foots the bill for their expensive giveaway. $300 billion in a student loan hand-out. wait, taxpayers are on the hook

including those who never went to college or anyone who sacrificed and saved to pay off their own student loans. bret baier, this has been a policy that has been championed by the left for quite a while. biden himself was skeptical about it even through the campaign and even while president. yet here we are. we have this decision and they can't really answer the question of who will pay for it, bret? >> it's interesting that every political push where the president is up against a corner he has given the hat tip to the progressives. this is another one. a big progressive win. they can't answer how it will be paid for. when they get pushed from reporters about this, this comeback is there is hypocrisy for you to be upset about this if you look at who got ppp, paycheck protection program pay-outs during covid. the problem is that's apples and oranges.

ppp program was passed in april of 2020 by congress. it was passed by congress. so their representatives, lawmakers, senators, congressmen who passed this. this is an executive action. the biggest financial executive action we can track ever. and so i think there is continuing pushback on that front. >> bill: dave ramsey makes a living talking about debt mostly personal debt but government debt, too. here is what he said about it just yesterday. >> this is so intellectually dishonest. if we're so bad you have to cancel them why are you continuing to make them? at least stop making them before we start forgiving them. it's intellectually dishonest and it is an obvious political ploy. >> bill: we have heard a lot of that. going back to the point you were making they will write books on government spending and government decisions made since the beginning of covid. there is a report out today from a committee out of d.c.

that only on student loans the decisions of the federal government made has cost us $800 billion. that is not healthcare, that is not housing. it is student loans. that topic only at $800 billion. >> it's amazing. the number here, $300 billion, is really a number of different organizations looking at this thinking it is actually could be closer to a trillion dollars when push comes to shove. and you add it all up and it exponentially adds up. if you look at the cost of college just over the past 20 years, sometimes it has doubled and sometimes three times and this is not going to help that in any way, shape or form. the administration says they will have a task force that will ask colleges and universities to keep the prices down. but in the wake of this, do we really think that will happen? >> dana: that's ridiculous.

a task force is always the answer. i do also think about a couple of months ago the biden administration argued that covid was over and that way they could get rid of the title 42 provision down on the border. but apparently the covid still exists for people who have student loans because they aren't going to have to start paying back their loans until january, bret. >> amazingly, the december deadline is a month after november 8th. it all fits in together here and the emergency provisions at the border go away, the cdc rolls back the guidelines you don't have to stay six feet, you know, you don't have to quarantine anymore. it is pretty remarkable that this is the emergency provision the department of education is using. the office of legal counsel will see some challenges. i don't know who will have standing to challenge it. i think there will be legal challenges to this. >> bill: another story relates house judiciary committee put out a statement on this.

republicans did. and they were blocked by facebook. and they sent out this message said well, facebook says our post about paying back loans violates their community standards. big tech is at it again. i don't know what the community standards would be for those who think big tech was backing off after the hunter biden stuff, guess again? >> as we get closer to november, closer to watch how much big tech and what they are doing as far as what can and can't go on. we've seen this story before. if it shapes up like the house judiciary committee is suggesting it is, if you are pushing back against the student loan program that it gets somehow censored, that's a big deal and it will be a big story. >> dana: huge story. plenty of stories to cover with you and see you tonight on special report. >> i think d.o.j. will win

their argument. with this judge they'll say there will be so much information about this reliability of the sources, specificity of their information that it will identify them. we can't do that. all that leaves us is the conduct of the former president. i have think d.o.j. would be more than happy to release that. >> bill: the former assistant f.b.i. director predicting the d.o.j. will move to heavily redact that affidavit due at noon today, the proposals are. former president trump's legal team accused the f.b.i. of launching a political attack and questioned its credibility. david spunt live at d.o.j. with more on this. what's the buzz as of this hour? hello. >> that noon deadline is a hard noon deadline set forth by magistrate judge bruce reinhart in florida. it has been this way for years but federal prosecutors typically wait until the last minute or a few minutes before to actually file so we still have a little time technically and we'll see what is filed.

you have to remember, though, just two weeks ago attorney general gar hand said he was okay with releasing the search warrant with limited information. we want to see the affidavit that includes probable cause and explain why the judge gave the green light for federal agents to descend on mar-a-lago. the affidavit has detailed information including what crime or crimes prosecutors are eyeing. last week in court the judge said he was leaning toward unsealing parts of the affidavit for the public to see. the justice department warned unsealing any part of the document could threaten the safety of witnesses interviewed by the f.b.i. ultimately reinhart's decision depends on what redactions d.o.j. officials. president trump wants it released in full. it will be filed under seal. we won't see exactly what is in that affidavit -- what's in

those redactions when d.o.j. puts it forward. the judge can sit on it for a while and say i will release this affidavit with some redactions. i will propose my own redactions. it is very unlikely he would release it with no redactions. that is not likely. he can take his time on this. we may not see anything specifically today but this has to be filed here in the next hour and 45 minutes. >> bill: we'll watch that and rely on you to take us through it. >> dana: he was accused of botching the response to the petito domestic violence call. is this officer being demoted? no. >> bill: some universities are putting the woke credentials at the top of the agenda for tenure. >> dana: we know about monopolies in business. do they exist in politics, too? why our next guest says new york city looks like the former east germany. >> every 10 years we redraw all the congressional lines. the court handed us a badly

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>> bill: it has been about a year since responding to the domestic violence call involving brian laundrie and

gabby petito. a police officer from moab was promoted to detective. during the incident last august pratt said he was required to issue an citation but did not. it was to protect women who could return to their abuser. her family has filed a $50 million lawsuit against the department alleging negligent. >> dana: the world of academia. some colleges are requiring professors to prove their dedication to diversity to get tenure or promotion. is this right and fair? william la jeunesse is live in westwood, california on the campus of the university of california. hi, william. >> dana, if you want to teach here or any other major university, you have to pass a litmus test. sign a loyalty pledge that you are committed to racial and

social equity. effectively are you woke enough to teach? i'm not kidding. 2018ucla was the first university to require job applicants to show how they will contribute to diversity, equity and inclusion as a condition of employment. so-called diversity statements are required throughout higher education and may help explain why 90% of u.s. professors identify as democrats. examples, you see davis, only professors who have diversity statements are considered for a job. applicants must show their experience in or knowledge of inclusion and diversity. candidates must show how their teaching contributes to an inclusive environment. >> we are hoping to slowly change the culture and the environment by having more conversations on these topics and hiring more people committed. >> in a tip column professor

advises applicants to focus their dei statement on racial oppression, sexism, homophobia, trans phobia or other forms of oppression if they want to get hired. >> the buzz words that will get you a pass with a liberal audience will be different than the buzz words that would get you a pass with a conservative audience and that's exactly the problem. given that academia is overwhelmingly political liberal we're setting non-liberal applicants up for failure. >> i asked him saying all students equally based on merit he said you wouldn't get hired. if you are color blind, you will not get hired. coalition monday said they want universities to get rid of these all together because they reduce diversity of thought. dana. >> dana: william la jeunesse. school gets back underway we learn more and more about this.

>> bill: democratic congressman jerry nadler cruising to victory over his colleague carolyn maloney. the democrats keeping a strangle hold on this town as violent crime becomes a daily fact of life. dan henninger is writing about it. your headline. jerry nadler beats carolyn maloney in east germany's primary. crime ravages minorities. make your point, dan. >> well, bill, as you know the districts in new york state were redrawn bay court-appointed specialist and pitted jerry nadler against carolyn maloney, both 30 years veterans of the house of representatives and jerry nadler has represented the upper west side, maloney represented the upper east side. i sort of playfully likeened all that running against each

other in east germany a far left one-party state. that's what new york city is turning into. also in this election for self-proclaimed democratic socialists won their primary elections for the new york state senate where they will surely win in november. that insures the city itself, beset by a wave of crime and has four progressive prosecutors and five of the city's counties there is not much getting addressed. they don't believe in heavily prosecuting people. there were three crimes in august one day after another. august 11, 12, 13. in all of them, senior officials came forth. one was a subway worker who was put in the hospital. the head of the mta and head of the workers union made a statement calling for this assault -- person who assaulted them to be banned from the subways for three years as the

law allows. two days later a taxi driver chased by people who refused to pay their fare was beaten to the ground and killed. head of the taxi driver's union when will victims' rights be as important in this city as criminal rights? that's is serious problem in a one party state like new york city. they elected eric adams to do it. he want overcome the ideology that damages black and brown citizens of our city. >> bill: you say the city of 8 million the turnout on tuesday was 8%. on the republican side, the "new york post" is writing about this today. the fallout from new york 19. "wall street journal" your paper is writing about it as well. the post says warning signs for the gop abound and journal takes on the gop and their abortion message. karl said what he would focus

on if he was working this campaign for republicans is to get out the vote operation for november. how do you see it? what is the fallout now two days later? >> get out the vote is going to be very important. a lot is being made of the election in new york 19 where pat ryan beat the republican. it was a two-point victory. not that big but it is true that pat ryan ran almost exclusively on abortion and the dobbs decision overturning roe v. wade. the lesson is especially african says rejected a referendum banning abortion is the republicans in some of these swing districts will have to figure out a way to talk intelligently about abortion and talk about the democratic position. by and large democrats favor the most extreme views on abortion, which is abortion on demand at any point in the pregnancy. most americans have a much more

nuanced view of it than that. they have objections having abortions past a certain point in the term of pregnancy. so the republicans really are going to have to address that. there is no question that there is a vulnerability here and they are going to have to get their voters to turn out. now, this was a primary that took place in august. a lot of people were on vacation. it is hard to know how much to read into the low turnout in the primaries we had this week but november will be another battle all together. this is going to be a big deal and the republicans clearly have been sent a message they have a lot of work to do if they will make good on taking back the house and heaven knows try to take over the senate in november. >> bill: nice to have you on today. good stuff to think about. the turnout was a third of what it was two years prior for the presidential race. it was on the presidential level. thank you, talk again soon. >> dana: greg abbott giving the border crisis to the big apple

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>> dana: amazon wants to get even further into your home with smart devices announcing plans to buy i robot. some privacy watchdogs are warning it could give amazon digital blueprints inside your home. i love my i robot. tell me more, mark. >> i don't have one myself and a lot of people watching have one. good morning. amazon spending 1.7 billion to buy the company behind the vacuum. it is the latest high-profile

acquisition of an electronic device that millions of people rely on. it will join other amazon products like the ring doorbell and insight into consumer's daily lives. privacy experts say it could provide the tech giant with way too many details about your own home. >> they map your house and use it. unfortunately surveillance is the business model of the internet and a lot of companies use the data to provide free services. >> not the first time amazon faced questions about its data gathering. lawsuit filed this summer accuses the company of taking user audio from the smart speakers for ads. the company told fox protecting customer data has always been very important to amazon. we think we've been good stewards of people's data across all of our businesses. customer trust we worked hard

to earn and keep every day. this month the federal trade commission is exploring ways to crack down on surveillance of consumers. fcc says they are necessary and planning to hold a virtual public forum on this issue two weeks from today and may be a good time to speak up. >> dana: we'll keep an eye on it. i will still use it. it picks up a lot of stuff. >> bill: more buses and migrants today arriving in new york city. our next guest started the idea and says his decision is now exposing the hypocrisy of the mayor of new york eric adams. greg abbott is our guest now and good morning to you. >> you too, bill. thanks. >> bill: appreciate you being here. i think they asked eric adams a week ago. he said he would go to texas and campaign against you. that was two weeks ago. last week they asked him if he has talked to you. he said he hasn't. i'm assuming you haven't talked

to him. why not? why not pick up the phone and have the appropriate conversation? >> we invited him to come to the border and we make the same invitation to the mayor of washington, d.c. as well as anybody. here is the deal, bill. that is most of america has not really understood the magnitude of the problem we have on the border until we started sending buses up to new york. remember, this is not a texas problem. this is an american problem caused by the president of the united states of america. so many people have been blind to this until suddenly buses of migrants started showing up in their city, which is a sanctuary city, by the way. but we still have an open invitation to the mayor of new york to come down to texas and see exactly what's going on. americans in places like new york would benefit from that. if all americans saw what we see every single day, they would be trying to put pressure on the president like we have

been doing to change the president's policies. remember this, two years ago we had the lowest border crossings in decades. when president biden took over, he eliminated all the policies that created a secure border and now we have the highest number of illegal border crossings ever. >> dana: one of the things that you mentioned is the sanctuary city part of new york city and wrote that's hip octoberz. mayor adams said to a radio station, someone get this man a dictionary. hypocrisy is claiming you love america and decrying the words on the statue of liberty. i don't know what he means by that. what's interesting about what you've done adams cannot criticize you without also pointing everybody to look at what's actually happening at the border. i think that's one of the reasons that you are having a good policy choice here. other media then whats to cover

the story. >> you're exactly right. remember this. for almost a year or two into the biden administration, there was only one tv station that exposed what was going on at the border and that was fox news. now suddenly abc, nbc, "the new york times" and some other outlets that are mainstream media are having to cover what's going on on the border because it showed up on their doorstep. going back to what the mayor's office was talking about they seemed to pledge allegiance to the statue of liberty. when i took an oath of office i swore to protect, preserve and defend the constitution and the laws of the united states of america as well as the state of texas. it is the constitution that guides what must be done here and that is to follow the constitution's provision that congress makes the laws to secure the border but the

president is not enforcing the laws passed by congress. the president of the united states is not upholding his oath. we need more americans to call on the president to uphold his oath and enforce the immigration laws of the united states. >> bill: when do you think he will do that? fentanyl reports they seized 11,000 pounds. this is nuts. it is wrong. there is no message, governor, from the white house to try and fight back against these numbers. >> right. so many americans are losing their lives every single day because of the fentanyl that is coming across the border from mexico. law enforcement has seized enough fentanyl to kill every man, woman and child in america. and so this is extraordinarily dangerous. they are doing nothing about it. i'll add to this. also an all-time record. under the trump administration, for four years there were about 11 people on the terrorist watch list who were apprehended

coming across the border. under the biden administration i think that number is now over 80 in just less than two years. those are the people who are caught. the people on terrorist watch list pay more to the cartels to evade detection. what we do not know is the number of terrorists who have made it across the border who are infiltrating the united states of america. my point is this. what the president of the united states is doing is abandoning his responsibility for national security to keep our country safe against terrorists and keep our country safe from deadly drugs like fentanyl. we've had an outbreak of fentanyl deaths. it could be catastrophic in the coming months. >> dana: the mayor of del rio and the mayor of new york city got together. local government is not easy. but when you have that many immigrants coming across the border, they could have a good conversation on that, i bet. governor greg abbott. great to see you.

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>> bill: as a country we're approaching the grim milestone.

the biden administration's disastrous withdrawal out of afghanistan happened about one year ago bringing back heartbreaking stories and images and steve harrigan was there in the very beginning 20 years ago. he is with us today two decades later in atlanta today. >> bill, one year after u.s. forces pulled out of afghanistan, it is really a few images that are burned into people's memories. first of all, most likely are those desperate afghans running after c-17 transport planes trying to hang on to a wheel or a wing. one young afghan dentist's body was found four miles away on a rooftop. he hung on for four miles. the other image that was poignant was women passing their infants to u.s. forces. they knew what was coming with the taliban and they were willing to make that sacrifice. finally, it was 13 u.s. service members coming home in flag-draped coffins killed by a suicide bomber who had a

backpack with 20 pounds of ball bearings that also killed 170 afghans. when you talk to people who fought and sacrificed in afghanistan they say speed and shame of the u.s. withdrawal is still hard to understand one year later. >> all the gains and things we had done, the positive impact we had made on the people on the country of afghanistan and improving the quality of life for the people, particularly the women and children. you saw those gains reversed in a matter of days. >> the u.s. did evacuate 124,000 people by air. 76,000 of those were afghans like this woman, mother and father who worked for the u.s. they made it out on their fourth try but had to leave relatives behind. >> a lot of depression. going outside and worrying that

maybe some random -- [inaudible] >> for 20 years the u.s. spent roughly $300 million a day in afghanistan. that's 2.3 trillion and the same people who were in charge 20 years ago, the taliban, are back in charge today. bill. >> bill: miraculous 15 days. steve harrigan, thank you for that from atlanta. >> dana: still a chaplain is suing the city of austin claiming he was fired from his job with the austin fire department for sharing his religious views online. on his personal blog he wrote men and women are biologically different and men should not compete on women's sports teams. that chaplain joins us now along with his attorney from the alliance defending freedom. dr. fox, sorry for what you are going through. tell us about the moment you found out you were being fired over this. >> that's precisely what it was.

it was a moment where i was fired. it was very surprising and very shocking because i had come from meetings previous to that with the fire chief and his assistant to say my blog had nothing to do with the fire department and they were not there to censor my writing. so when i was fired over the phone, i felt an meadow fence there that my first amendment rights had been violated, freedom of speech and freedom of religion in something unrelated to my job. >> dana: you wrote on foxnews.com an editorial who said who gets to decide what views are acceptable and some are not on someone's blog or officials will only except those remain silent? i know you are filing a lawsuit. do you think this is a sign of things are happening more

broadly not just in austin? not an isolated incident. we're starting to see more and more of this? >> i could put context to that. 23 years ago, i moved to this country from england as an immigrant on a religious work visa as clergy. that quickly went to a green card, permanent residence and i became a citizen with all of my family. so when i look over the last 23 years, i can say the country i chose to come to live in, to raise my family in and to work in is certainly not the country that we currently live in. things have changed at such a rapid rate, it does seem that government entities are punishing individuals for voicing their first amendment rights of freedom of speech again and freedom of religion of which i'm a big advocate of. >> dana: tell the us about the lawsuit and where does it stand and what do you expect? >> thank you, dana.

it is really a shame that a social agenda by the city of austin is trumping dr. fox's constitutional rights. we filed this lawsuit. we have alleged violations of his first amendment right to free speech. right to exercise his religious freely as well under the texas constitution. this is a situation where the city of austin demanded that dr. fox recant his beliefs in order to keep his job. that is not the job of government institutions to tell americans how to think especially outside of work. >> dana: dr. fox, ryan, please keep us posted and we'll follow this case and hope it gets corrected. thank you both. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> connecting the acre all the way to the table and this data and all these centers do that. >> bill: fox heads to the farm of the future. talk about a foodee. how a nebraska popcorn farmer

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the w the technology and connectivity nothing like it. >> he grows popcorn in western nebraska. >> this is controlling immigration and controlling fertilizer. >> as well as tractors, trucks and storage facility as well as the markets. it ties it directly and right back to the consumer. >> in addition he has drones that monitor crop growth, computer-controlled tractors and co-variants flux towers that measure evaporation transformation. technology funded by the university of nebraska farm program whose goal is to solve world hunger. >> tying that together data does it. cen sores do it. connectivity does it. >> part of an automation trend that includes mechanized device

that picks apples in washington state. a machine that shakes almonds off trees in california and a john deere driveless tractor that tills corn fields in the midwest. the university of nebraska says its technology could increase farm production by over 30%. not everyone is counting their corn before it pops. obviously a lot of this will affect jobs. >> well yes, these technologies are designed first and foremost to replace work that humans do with work that machines do. at the end of the day, those jobs won't be there in the same way they've been in the past. there will be fewer of them. >> patrick bauer is an expert on sustainable food system policy at the university of rhode island. he says farm workers and their families could soon be decimated. he also predicts something possibly more sinister. >> all of this new technology is made by companies who are now going to want a piece of

the food industry pie. >> that's right. they want to make money by selling these machines to farmers and not just the machines, bust they want to monetize the data that those machines will collect from the farm and sell that data back to farmers. >> critics say this technology will cost jobs and the farm industry will be controlled by tech. what do you say? >> i couldn't disagree more. i think it will create a different set of jobs and a whole different set of engagement. >> he says smart farming is the future and farmers who aren't on board are going to be left behind. that's it from here. back to you, dana and bill. >> bill: amazing possibility. >> dana: interesting. >> thanks for that. douglas kennedy. bring the butter and salt for the popcorn. >> dana: that was super interesting. before we go, i will be on "the five" later. greg gutfeld is away i get to

play. i'll fill for greg tonight. might have a guest at the end of the show that you might want toz. i'll crush it. lawrence jones is on. and cat tymp what could go wrong. "the faulkner focus" is next. hi, martha. >> look forward to that tonight. in the meantime bipartisan backlash to president biden's huge student loan bail-out. he has critics on both sides of the aisle raising alarms about the white house's action and dodging questions about who really picks up the tab. this is "the faulkner focus" and i'm martha maccallum in today for harris. great to be with you. the president following through on a campaign promise that he made and canceled up to $20,000 for certain borrowers in debt that they had outstanding for their college years. while extending