are quasi mow toe. >> space is exciting. it burns our imaginations. >> on monday "special report" latest on the war in ukraine from the ground and president biden meet with congressional hispanic caucus on border issues. thank you so much for watching i'm gillian turner in washington. judge jeanine pirro is in for jesse watters up next. >> judge jeanine: happy earth day, everybody. ♪ chanting] >> judge jeanine: the first earth day was recognized 52 years ago. but, according to the experts in washington, we don't have many earth days left to celebrate.

>> it's about understanding that it costs more not to respond to the climate crisis than it does to respond. and it is, without exaggeration about survival. >> the planet is running a fever. there are no emergency roofs for planets we have to pass legislation that unleashes the wind and solar, all-american vehicle. plug in hybrid, battery storage technology, transmission technology revolution that we know is out there. we can save all of creation by engaging in massive job creation. >> millennials and people, you know, gen z and all these folks that come after us are looking up and we are looking the world is going to end in 12 years if we don't address climate change and your biggest issue. [applause] >> your biggest issue is how are we going to pay for it. >> 12 years? that was three years ago. wow.

the clock is really ticking. but this isn't the first time we have been threatened with a climate of aapocalypse. in 1969 the "new york times" talked to an expert who said everyone will disappear in a cloud of blue steam by 1989 because of pollution. now, i don't remember disappearing in a cloud of blue steam, do you? the a.p., the associated press reported in 1989 that rising seas would olittle bit rate oobliterate by 2,000that didn't. nonetheless joe biden can't planet himself is taking big bold action on climate. is he opening up america's pocketbook to force the military to go green. >> one of the things i found as as president of the united states i get to spend a lot of money. i'm not joking.

we're going to completely -- i'm going to start the process where every vehicle in the united states military, every vehicle is going to be climate friendly, every vehicle. we're going to have -- no, i mean it. >> judge jeanine: joe biden wants the army to drive electric tanks. but what does he drive? after all he is an automobile buff. >> i -- i -- i'm an automobile buff. i have a 68 corvette that does nothing but pollute the air. [laughter] but i don't drive very much. >> judge jeanine: why doesn't he drive a tesla? after all, he wants you to buy one. so we asked jen psaki this last month and here's what she said. >> you guys are pushing electric vehicles today. this is a president who always talks about the power our example. >> um-huh. >> does he own an electric vehicle? >> presidents of the united states don't do a lot of driving. >> he is posted videos where is he refusing revving the corvette in wilmington he owns cars.

>> he has driven as president to give model to the rest of the country. >> does he own one. >> the president's record on this clear peter, presidents of the united states current and when they are no longer typically are not doing a lot of driving. >> judge jeanine: that sounds like a no. though biden did say today that he will buy an electric corvette if chevy ever makes one. but this is a problem with the elitist left's approach on the environment. they want you to change your life but they won't do anything to change theirs. just take john kerry climate czar and class a hypocrite. he wants coal miners to go make solar panels but he won't give up private jets. that's okay because he really deserves it. >> it's the only choice for somebody like me, who is traveling the world to win this battle. i negotiated the paris accords for the united states. i have been involved in this

fight for years. the time it takes me to get somewhere i can't sail across the ocean i have to fly. >> judge jeanine: and he is not alone. just yesterday bill clinton told us if you don't want to die you have got to make some serious changes calamitous consequences will ensue if we don't do x, yz. every year the closer we get to d-day the more harsh these consequences seem to be but the steeper the cuts need to be because we are running out of time. now we don't have any excuse our grandchildren are depending on you. i wonder if he was thinking about the consequences when he was driving to africa on jeffrey epstein's lolita express? look, here's the thing about joe biden's climate agenda. it's big, expects expensive and it comes wrapped in miles of red

tape. according to a report from the securities and exchange commission biden's climate regulations could cost american businesses more than $10 billion. is that money coming out of joe's pocket? i don't think so. those regulations aren't just costly they are time consume consuming. he is restoring environmental regulations that will tying up construction projects years legal battles with climate activists. you know who doesn't regulate construction to death? china, they are the biggest polluter in the world but you don't hear anyone complaining about them instead american climate activists claim we are the problem. they want us to continue punishing ourselves despite the fact that our air is 75 times cleaner than it was on the first earth day 52 years ago and our water is the cleanest it's ever

been but when it comes to climate, liberals don't believe in moderation. for them it's not enough that you don't throw your trash in the rivers, you have to sacrifice your truck and your hamburgers and in some cases your job at their big green altar. here now marc morano, author of the green fraud and congressman byron donalds of florida. good to have you both here this evening. marc, you have a lot on this. the thing that struck me that i remembered from three years ago was apartment oc saying 12 years now we have nine years. what is going to happen? will you tell me what it is? the end of civilization and prince charles 100 month tipping point he counted down the 100 months and when he got to zero he gave a tipping point of like 2048. they extend the tipping point. i was able to trace the first

climate tipping point, judge, back to 1864 when abraham lincoln was president and academic named leo marx warned of climatic excess unless men changed their ways. this is deep hard wired within the human beings that we have a sort of doomsday and that we have to be punished for our sins and taking on a sort of religion. we have to do this sort of these rituals in order to save ourselves. rituals, of course are the green new deal, u.n. climate treaties, giving up our vehicle, cutting thermostat not eating hamburgers a long list of virtue signaling that even john kerry admits would have no impact on zero emissions even if the u.s. zeroed down to nothing. nonsense but good time to review what's going on on earth day. >> judge jeanine: i never ever remembered what earth day meant. congressman donalds one of the things they keep talking about are these electric cars. the problem is we don't have an electric vehicle infrastructure.

you know, so, we want -- we want to get rid of gas and fuel and shut down the keystone pipeline and no more drilling on federal lands. new drilling anyway. how do we make this segue from gas to electric? >> >> the segue that they want to take us down is incredibly expensive and something we simply can't afford. you are right, there is no electric infrastructure. if you went and moved, let's say the postal service to an all electric postal service, i have asked them where are you going to get all the additional electricity you need on the grid to power the cars. >> judge jeanine: thank you. >> what they will tell you is we have to burn more natural gas, we have to burn more oil. what are we doing? don't forget the facts that when you do electric vehicles, you need cobalt, lithium, rare earth mineral. china controls those minerals across the globe. hunter biden helped facilitate co-bat mine in africa. giving money to the chinese for electric vehicles that we don't

have the energy for on our own electric grid. >> judge jeanine: all right. and, marc, as it relates to that idea of getting these electric cars, and then getting the lithium batteries from china, wasn't afghanistan involved in that, also? the lithium mines are in afghanistan? >> yes. i mean china, when afghanistan-china wouldn't meet with joe biden but they method with afghanistan. china is now going to be mining the rare earth metals there. they're mining them in africa as the congressman said. it was children as young as 9 according to international rights organizations. electric cars when you plug them in, you are plugging them in to oil, coal, gas the idea of electric car being all green is nonsense. we are giving away american energy dominance we had just with president trump for the first time since harry truman giving all of that up for more reliance on china, russia, opec, we are outsources our energy and we have the best environmental standards in the world all we are doing is increasing real pollution in the world is when

we outsource in order to meet the, quote, green agenda end quote. >> judge jeanine: congressman donalds i only have a few seconds left. what can congress do effectively in this situation? >> what congress needs to do is we need to actually bring back nuclear power in a major way in the united states that will get us zero emission energy that is cheap, affordable and is reliable. >> judge jeanine: okay. all right. marc murano and congressman byron donalds thanks for being with us tonight. >> any time. >> judge jeanine: are the walls closing in on hunter biden? the u.s. attorney's office is leaving no stone unturned in their investigation into the first son. will an indictment follow? are you haunted by your cable service? have you noticed strange, frightening fees on your monthly bill? do you experience feelings of dread when you pass by your cable box? if the answer is yes... who you gonna call? directv stream. now get $30 off over 3 months.

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♪ >> judge jeanine: a man has tried to set himself on fire in front of the supreme court in washington, d.c. chad pergram has the latest. chad, what's going on there. >> i just walked out of the capitol just a few minutes ago here and i saw they changed the security posture on the capitol plaza. a bunch of police cars started to race up constitution avenue and the supreme court. they closed off the area and i was told there on the scene that a man had tried to set himself on fire on the steps of the supreme court. just a few minutes after that an ambulance pulled up and then a u.s. park police helicopter arrived, took away the patient and flew him away to the hospital. you could see rather surreal scene the helicopter flying over top of the u.s. capitol. this comes just a couple of days after there was this false alarm about an air incursion on capitol hill. so you can see how nerves were kind of frayed having a helicopter land so close to the united states capitol after what happened wednesday night. the u.s. capitol police put out a statement saying this was only related to a medical emergency.

it had nothing to do with what happened on wednesday night or security situation but that person has now been transported away to the hospital after trying to set themselves on fire on the steps of the supreme court. back to you. >> judge jeanine: chad, thanks so much. a lot of strange doings in washington. anyway the federal probe into the president's son hunter biden is starting to really heat up. a new cbs report shows that the u.s. attorney's office wanted every record relating to hunter's finances, including even his paternity documents. watch. >> cbs news investigative team was able to obtain this subpoena sent by the u.s. attorney's office sent in delaware of december of 2020 to a law firm in arkansas that represented london roberts. the woman who brought and settled a paternity suit with hunter biden. this is a very broad subpoena seeking financial records and it falls into two distinct buckets. the first has to do with the

flow of money in and out of his account. it asks for all documents, emails, instant messages related to income expenses, debts, financial transactions both personal and business former u.s. attorney told us that this kind of subpoena really indicates to him that the u.s. attorney in delaware is leaving no stone unturned. jean they are leaving no stone unturned suggesting this probe might expand beyond just hunter biden. joe biden's brother james biden was served with a federal subpoena requesting august of his financial documents dating back to 2014 when joe was vice president. we know that joe biden had intertwined finances had his son hunter. when hunter and his business partners were paying off joe's bills like his home repairs and his private phone line. so it's very possible that the president, joe biden, may also find himself in the crosshairs

of a federal investigation jim trusty is a former doj prosecutor. jim, it's good to have you on tonight. this is a far reaching subpoena. it is one that is quite broad. it doesn't seem like just a tax evasion investigation. >> yeah, that's the big question. and i really think that's going to be the ultimate test here of the attorney general ultimately is whether or not this is just a tax case or something bigger. i mean, the investigation has two big landmark self-inflicted injuries that we know of. the first being leaving the laptop at the repair shop. the second is probably this: fighting a paternity suit against an arkansas stripper has led to an easy avenue for federal prosecutors to have kind of contemporaneous records of income and self-expense bias biden. self-inflicted dumb moves by him. they don't agree it's being done honestly and objectively.

doesn't guarantee a result implicates all the federal laws in play for his conduct. >> judge jeanine: you know, jim, you really disappoint me when you bring reality back into the sphere. as a former d.a. myself and i'm talking to you yes, yes it sounds like we have a case here but, remember who is in charge of the department of justice merrick garland the guy who wanted to go after tears of those domestic terrorists. you know, what's interesting is joe biden -- not joe biden, james biden, the brother is also involved. we know that hunter and james were doing business. so, you know, it's not just about taxes, when they start bringing in the president's brother as well. i mean, that kind of to a prosecutor smells like something a little different. >> yeah. you are right. there is a question of whether they are viewing james as a conduit for more information just to witness or if he a subject or a target. those are things that only a few people in this world know right now. but, look, i mean, you know, i think you are right. if they are looking expansively at other people, it sounds like

more than a tax case. remember, the only people that have called this a tax investigation are hunter's own attorneys. they kind of set that out as a trial balloon and we don't really have any conversation what the scope is from the u.s. attorney's office. >> judge jeanine: that is so true. and, you know, if they have hunter's laptop, i mean, reports are that there are things on that laptop that in and of themselves are crimes. so, i mean, you know, the question is, whether or not the department of justice and right now it's with the u.s. attorney in delaware, correct? >> >> its is remember, the end game is a big old permission slip from the attorney general. whether that's a soft plea an a busy friday afternoon to like a tax misdemeanor or whether it's a robust, serious investigation and prosecution that implicates other people and foreign corrupt practices act. fara, money laundering all the things at play that's the wait

and see from this attorney general. not just the integrity of the investigators and the u.s. attorney. >> judge jeanine: you are so right about that jim trusty. thanks so much for being with us tonight. >> sure. >> judge jeanine: okay. and tragedy on our southern border as a texas national guardsman goes missing while trying to save a migrant in the rio grande. more on that story coming right up. ♪ ♪ crowd control- have a nice day alex (thanks ms. ellen) ...taking the stairs. that's how you du more with dupixent, which helps prevent asthma attacks. dupixent is not for sudden breathing problems. it's an add-on-treatment for specific types of moderate-to-severe asthma that can improve lung function for better breathing in as little as two weeks.

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( ♪♪ ) ♪ walking on ♪ ♪ walking on the moon ♪ ♪ some ♪ ♪ may say ♪ ♪ i'm wishing my days away ♪ ♪ no way ♪ ♪ walking on the moon ♪ ♪ >> judge jeanine: joe biden has criminally neglected the southern border. now there may be deadly consequences. a texas national guard soldier went missing today while trying to rescue a female immigrant in the rio grande on the u.s.-mexico border. the soldier removed his body armor and dove into the river after spotting the drowning woman. the immigrant survived and is

now in border patrol custody. hours later the soldier still has not been found. but he is presumed to have drowned. this comes as a wave of illegals watch the southern border in anticipation of title 42 ending next month. overwhelming the border agents and our national guard defending our country. here now stephen miller, america first legal founder and former senior adviser to president trump. steven, it's always good to see you. this is really a very sad story. and i can't help but think that but for the refusal of joe biden to create some kind of regulator at the border that this is his fault. >> it is absolutely his fault because joe biden has sent the message to the world that if you come to the united states illegally you will get in. the result of that decision tragically, heart breakingly are incidents like this because people are coming in record

numbers and risking their lives in many cases, making the treacherous journey and it's the heroes of our country who have to risk their lives to save them. this would all stop tomorrow if he just returned to the trump policy of detain and deport. break our laws, the law's enforced and did you go home. >> judge jeanine: the amazing part of it, steven, he has the house, the senate, and the oval. why doesn't he do something about the broken immigration system? i got to tell you, i'm tired of hearing them say it's broken immigration. it's not broken. they are not following the law and all of the sudden the law is broken? the system is broken? this is just -- this is lunacy. it will only get worse as -- this is a rush on the border. >> their border policy is exactly the same as what soros prosecutors are doing in our cities which they are unilaterally suspending enforcement of the law and giving criminals free rain.

immigration enforcement is law enforcement. and by saying that you will not be deported, what they are saying is the laws of the united states will not be enforced. donald trump fixed the system by restoring consequences for law breaks. joe biden smashed the system into dust by allowing everyone to break the law with impunity. >> judge jeanine: well, that impunity, i mean, i call it privilege. i call it criminal privilege. you know. i call it immigrant privilege right now. the people coming here illegally have to hire a lawyer. they have to, you know, speak the language. they have to give their, you know, their honesty to the united states i'm missing the word. >> pledge loyalty. >> judge jeanine: none of this is happening and being flown into the interior of the country faster than they're come in. now they are saying well, it's not fair you shouldn't be

sending them to the interior. what should would he be doing with them? >> the only solution, the only solution is to end catch and release. which is the one thing that joe biden will never do since his goal is maximum illegal immigration. every choice he has made from terminating mpp. terminating safe third agreements and terminating every that donald trump put in place is to put them in the country. that's why my organization america first absolutely suing the general paxton to stop the rescission of title 42. >> judge jeanine: i only have a few seconds left. what is joe biden's end goal here? just to let everybody in to america until, when? >> >> you are witnessing it until all of the country resembles the same political experiment that took place in california. that is ultimately their belief, their design and their objective. they think that having massive uncontrolled illegal immigration will make this country a more

liberal, more left wing less conservative country. that's their belief. that's their plan. and they are playing it through. and all the people dying are just collateral damage. >> judge jeanine: how sad. how sad. thank you, stephen miller, always good to have you on and thank you for the work you are doing. >> thank you. >> judge jeanine: aoc has a dire warning for america. she says that if republicans retake the house and senate it might as well be the end of democracy. watch. >> if we lose the house -- this is no joke, january 6th was a trial run. and a lot of people don't seem to understand that. it was a trial run and they are going to come back. if they take the house, then they have the votes [inaudible] election. whatever the results are. serious. >> judge jeanine: let's be honest about what this is. it's a blatant attempt to scare people into going to the polls.

the democrat party is fractured. and voter enthusiasm on their part is in the toilet. and republicans are poised for historic midterm victory in november. and since the dems can't seem to win over voters with their ideas or their policies, they are trying to paint a doomsday scenario to gin up support for their base. and aoc is blaming joe biden and the party for not listening to her crazy rants. congressman steve scalise is the minority whip of the house. congressman, it's good to see you. how are you? >> judge, great to be back with you. doing well. >> judge jeanine: okay, good. let's talk about aoc. you know, all hell is going to break loose with the climate change. we have got nine years and the end of democracy while the southern border is being -- there is a rush on the border right now while criminals are being let out of jail. victims are being ignored. and this woman is worried about the democracy. she crazy or am i? >> judge, what they are scared to death about, especially these

big government socialists led by aoc is losing power. look, they have run this country for the last two years into the ground. there is fires all over the world. if you look at america, inflation prices, high gas price crisis, border crisis, crime running rampant, let alone what they have done on foreign policy and those debacles from afghanistan to ukraine, so they don't want to lose power, they know the country is fed up with their big government socialist push to the left, and that's why you are going to see this huge wave in november of people saying we want to take our country back just like they did in last november in virginia where they said we want to take our country back because parents want to be involved in kids' education. those are the kinds of issues that people care about. democrats want to talk about january 6th every day because they don't want to talk about the inflation and high cost of everything that they have created with two years in total charge of washington. >> judge jeanine: you know, one of the other issues that they don't want to confront is the issue of crime. and, you know, jen psaki a

couple months back was saying look at them. look at jeanine pirro why is thee talking about crime? it has no consequences? we are being overrun by criminals who are not being held and simply being allowed to go out again and reoffend. and, yet, it doesn't seem that they are getting the memo. i keep going back to the question. what are they looking for? are they looking to just satisfy the progressive end of the party? but the progressive end of their party is at odds with the other end of the democrat party which is why they are fractured. i mean, so why is joe biden even listening? >> well, is he letting the big government socialist drive the agenda. you know, aoc, bernie sanders, they are the thought leaders of the democratic party and they're driving things. they were pushing defund the police. now they want no cash bail. they want to let people out if they are violent criminals. and you are seeing it destroy big cities. you are seeing it run people out of big cities there was like a million people that left the state of new york last year. many of them moving to states

like florida. they are seeking freedom and seeking an escape from the socialist states. they don't want to see the country run like a socialist nation. and that's really what this fight is about. that's what november's election is going to be about. you want freedom or do you want big government socialism? but if you look at the mask mandate, i mean for goodness sake, the courts finally said enough with cdc overpushing their boundaries. can you actually fly own a plane with or without a mask it's your choice. joe biden repealed that because they want government control. they don't want to let go of control. >> judge jeanine: the amazing part of it is if they appeal it now, what does the cdc, which was one of the reasons for the overturning of the case, it had to do with the cdc, you know, not following the requirements and, in fact, the congress didn't give the cdc the power that they are using in the end whether a you have got now they appeal now is low numbers. how could they possibly win with a circuit? >> right. this is work. freedom actually works. they don't believe in it.

they don't want people to have freedom. but people want freedom. and they yearn for it in ukraine. and they sure yearn for it in america and when they see it taken away, they really, really do get loud. and have you seen in school board meetings across the country. i are seeing it in elections where the good, big government socialists are losing to people that choose freedom. i choose freedom as you do as well. but it works. stop trying to ruin it here in america. >> judge jeanine: it's frightening when an president comes around we got to moderate what's being said and the first amendment is not-an absolute as people think. >> they want to get rid of the first amendment, the second amendment. it just goes right down the line. people are fed up with it. >> judge jeanine: they are. >> that's why we are going to take our country back starting in november with the house. ultimately getting the white house in 24. >> judge jeanine: congressman steve scalise always good to talk to you. thank you. >> great being with you, judge. >> judge jeanine: drugs, drinking, and violence. johnny depp and amber heard trial officially gone off the

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>> judge jeanine: actor johnny depp has got himself into quite a mess defamation trial against ex-wife amber heard this past week has gone completely off the rails. depp is suing heard $20 million after she posted an op-ed in the "the washington post" saying she was a victim of domestic violence. he claims all of her allegations are false but heard is not backing down on her claims. she is now counter suing him for $100 million because he said the op-ed was a hoax. the bizarre trial highlights violence, drug use, and defecation. >> after wedding there was dinner, dancing and drugs. >> you can't say that he carried cocaine in that box? >> no. but it looks like it would fit some cocaine. >> you would sometimes drink whiskey in the morning too right during this time period? >> you know, i mean, isn't happy hour any time? i don't believe that i'm the only human being that's ever

punched a door or broken something on my side of the bed was human fecal matter. >> evidence of the trial includes claims that depp head butted amber heard. we saw pictures of johnny depp in the hospital after heard allegedly threw a bottle at him and severed his finger. also under the microscope depp's years of substance abuse. depp's cross-examination will resume on monday. what could he be facing after this? joining me now to discuss perfect attorney on this case attorney mark geragos. how are you, mark? >> i'm wonderful, judge, how are you? thanks for that. >> i got to tell you, most people once they are divorced don't ever want to see each other again especially in a courtroom. these two are glutton for punishment. >> you know what cracks me up about this you said it's gone off the rails. people forget he brought this case. he is the plaintiff here.

he is the one who initiated this case. and i just keep saying to myself anybody who will listen why didn't the lawyer talk him out of this? >> judge jeanine: i know. the lawyer should have talked him out of it because we don't know how bad johnny is going to look at the end of the cross-examination. but, remember, heard gets on the stand. she is going to be cross-examined by his lawyer. the issue is this, mark, is it not for defamation first of all whether she was talking about him and if she is a victim of domestic violence, talking about her husband and whether she actually was a victim. so, what does she have to prove? >> well, look, you first have to step back. you to say to yourself how many people really tied together a "the washington post" article in 2018 where she identified herself as a victim of domestic abuse but did not call him out. and how many people remembered that in 2022 but i guarantee him that if you were to do a jesse watters man on the street

interview everybody would have an opinion right now about what has gone on now. he has exposed himself to ridicule, except with, you know, there is kind of a gender divide on this case. at least anecdotally before the cross-examination. but, in order to prove it, he is a public figure, it's a very high bar, given the current state and it's a daunting case that makes very little sense and i personally just think that the lawyers should have talked him out of it. >> judge jeanine: i agree with that it seems he lost all kinds of movie deals after that because don't want to go near a batterer. if he is alleged to be one. and she doesn't sound like a day in the park either and that's going to come out pretty soon. so i mean, who do you think -- go ahead. >> the problem with the case like this, is you are going to get jurors who may split, and like i say, along gender lines,

but ultimately at the end of the day, i can see a compromise on both their houses we are not going to go anywhere near this. and i don't understand -- i understand the interest in it, the interest in it at the end of the day is he not helping his career. she certainly doesn't come off looking better after this. he certainly doesn't. and, you know, losing movie roles. the public and holiday especially has a very short memory and i just don't buy that. >> judge jeanine: well, you know, we will see what happens. but i think they will both pay a very dear price for suing each other again after the divorce. and i couldn't agree with you more that an op-ed shouldn't be enough to have the whole country you know watching this most people go home if they're married and go you know my marriage is pretty cool after you hear about them. >> exactly. by comparison, i have got a great -- i should say my blessings. i mean, geesh.

>> judge jeanine: good to see you mark geragos, thank you so much. >> good to see you. >> judge jeanine: coming up, why is the federal government spending big money on getting monkeys high on marijuana? find out next. >> we have sad. ♪ ♪

♪ ♪ >> jeanine: dr. anthony fauci's national institutes of health is back at it again.

after being accused of funding heinous experiments that track dogs in cages while flies attacked them, looks like more animals on the nih's hit list. a new report from government watchdog group white coast waste project has uncovered that almost $250 million has been spent, get this, getting monkeys, mice, and lobsters high on marijuana. with almost none of it disclosed to taxpayers. now since 2012, more than $169 million has been handed out in grants to feed weed to primates. the study is supposed to research the impact of marijuana on reproductive health but after a decade of getting monkeys stoned, we are still at square one and the waste does not stop there. they also authorized over $40 million for various studies on the impact of vaping nt cigarettes on mice, but the experiments are practically

useless because researchers found human hearts and mice hearts are different but the detail did not stop the nih from wasting even more money on animal experiments like this lobster bake. the report points out that nearly $25 million has been wasted getting lobsters high to see if it made them easier to cook and eat. and after spending all that money, guess what they found out? the weed had no effect. but this is a staggering amount of money for the nih to waste. is this where you want your taxpayer dollars to go? justin goodman is the vice president of public policy of the white coat waste project and he is here now. justin, thanks so much for being with us. i must tell you, i am an animal lover and i understand there is a certain role for animals, you know, in our attempt to try to find cures for diseases, but this strikes me as just

coldhearted and a waste of money. >> yeah, i think animal lovers, liberty lovers, vegetarians, libertarians can all agree this is not a good use of taxpayer dollars. the blunt truth is tens of millions of dollars each year is going up in smoke under these half-baked marijuana experiments on mice and other animals and that taxpayer-funded experimenters are breaking the law by not disclosing how much money they're spending getting animals wasted. >> jeanine: how much know mike do you find out how much money they're waste in? >> we use government spending databases to obtain information. every press release that goes out of a taxpayer-funded university has to disclose by federal law since 1989 exactly how many taxpayer dollars were spent down to the penny. what we found when we reviewed all of these press releases about getting lobsters high, getting my stone, feeding edibles to monkeys, not a single university we found has properly disclosed how much of the spending and taxpayers have

a right to know how their money is being spent. >> jeanine: well, the interesting thing is, you have to wonder when they put outcome i'm sure it is not an rfp, but when they put out proposals the nih ultimately funds, how do they decide, you know, who is better to get $25 million, the sea of lobsters taste better after they smoke weed? [laughter] the lobster does not smoke weed, how do they get weed to the lobster? >> it sounds like some of these experimenters are getting high on their own supply, to be honest, the nih sounds more like a frat house than a government agency. unfortunately, there is a spending problem. the nih is addicted to spending and we see it all over, from fauci's dog experiments to getting lobsters high, this is not how taxpayers want their money spent. we commissioned a poll earlier this month but found the majority of americans, republicans, democrats, independents alike, do not want their tax dollars being spent getting animals high, period, this is something we can all

agree on. >> jeanine: it is something we can all agree on it i think, you know, just don't have faith anymore that the government is doing things that are right, that are normal, you know, how much like this has fauci gotten away with? how long have they been in government, 40 years? he makes more than anyone else, he gives all this money out, what does he get in return for these absurd grants? >> yeah, listen, the fact is the nih is a $40 billion budget, it spends half of it, half of it it admits on animal testing, and that admits 95% of those animal tests, like the examples you gave, don't apply to humans, so it is incredible waste of taxpayer dollars that we should not be forced to pay for it. >> jeanine: where other prosecutors in cases like this? anyway, thank you so much for being with us tonight. >> thanks, judge. >> jeanine: and that is all for us tonight. thank you so much for watching. you can catch me every day on "the five." and on my fox nation show.

"tucker carlson tonight" is up next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." we told you earlier in the week about how the left is very mad and trying to shut down a site called @libsoftiktok? why are they so upset? over the past half year, video after video has appeared on social media showing schoolteachers bragging enthusiastically about how they push their personal politics often weird and gruesome politics on t s