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maria: good friday morning everyone thank you so much for joining us. i am maria bartiromo. friday april 26, your top stories, 6:00 a.m. on the east coast. sticker shock persist as the inflation story unfolds. features are indicating a big rally at the start of trade ahead of the federal reserve preferred reading on inflation. the dow industrial of 58, the nasdaq up 163 extended yesterday's big moves, the march pc index could be a market mover out to a half hours time, 8:30 a.m. eastern join us as were counting down to the numbers, the dow and nasdaq selling off yesterday as persistent inflation keeps investors on the edge when and if the fed will cut interest rates. the dow industrial plummeting, the s&p lower by 73 in the nasdaq lower by 100 points. growth is slowing as earnings on top this morning.

we are watching chevron, exxon, phillips 66 all out before the opening bell. will also recap alphabet and microsoft's earnings last night the stocks on the move right now. european markets are higher take a look at the eurozone stocks higher across-the-board, s&p 100 up 35, capcom 19 and dax index higher by 130. in asia green across-the-board, anthony blinken meeting with xi jinping in china this morning. the shanghai composite up 1.1% overnight, hang sighing up 2.1%. protested american universities bringing arresting chaos to campus but it won't upset president biden's trip to new york today, he'll skip visiting columbia to calm the protesters instead speaking with howard stern with a radio interview in new york. the supreme court hears the first arguments for donald trump's presidential immunity case as a former president drums uplands flipped empire state

bread while trying to jam and campaign stops before and after facing injury all day long and in your courthouse. joining the conversation all morning long u.s. senate candidate and gop strategist joe pinion and lonski group founder president john lonski. "mornings with maria" is live right now. ♪ ♪ ♪. maria: it is time for the hot topic of the hour. the supreme court appearing open to grant some level of immunity to protect former president trump from prosecution in the civil fraud trial in the hush money case. trump praised the highest court yesterday after hearing initial arguments. watch this. >> i think it was made clear and i hope it was made clear that a president has to have immunity, you don't have a president or

would be a ceremonial president, that's not what the founders had in mind in the justices were on the game. presidential immunity is imperative or you practically want of a country anymore. maria: about came out of the hearing, the scotus also warning the supreme court is seen a dangerous president and president can prosecute their political rivals. watch this. >> the president may be criminally prosecuted by a bitter political opponent, will that not lead us into a cycle that destabilizes the functioning of our country. we can look around the world and find countries where we have seen this process and the loser gets thrown in jail. >> i'm trying to understand the disincentive from turning the oval office into the seat of criminal activity in this

country. once we say no criminal liability mr. president you can do whatever you want. >> i am concerned about future uses of the criminal law to target political opponents based on accusations about their motives. maria: fascinating to hear the arguments of yesterday and this will continue. the your reaction. >> ethic it's refreshing to see the highest court in the land having a deliberate conversation on the issues that many people in this country have forced to decide. many people have said for a very long time these issues are much longer than president trump. they have large ranging impact on the veracity of our republic. in some ways it is always appeared that people are willing to damage the institutions that have allowed america to become the envy of the world by actually trying to go after president trump in a way that is beyond the pale.

hopefully we will see them strike the balance between accountability for anyone who holds the office but also hamstring in a way that the business of the people and stability of the world is in many ways compromised. maria: i think you're spot on. the two systems of justice has been the story for donald trump since he walked out the other bitter and announced, excavator and announced who's running for president. dave used things against him, the other side, political enemies in many cases were not even true. that's really what the justices are talking about right here, being used against drop. >> again there are people who hated president trump, members of congress talking about impeaching him before he even had taken the oath of office. from that point forward it seemed quite clear to many people no matter what he did or didn't do their going to try to find some way to penn a crime on the elephant. now we have the issue with the

president, at least outside of the courthouse talking about what many of us have said the supreme court is the last bastion to ensure the brinksmanship of her politics doesn't overrun the purpose of the country. maria: i was happy to hear that the supreme court justices are talking this out. hash judiciary republican state manhattan da alvin bragg in the das office of political motivation and animus to infected prosecutorial discretion in the trump so-called hush money case, jim jordan said x prosecutor mark pomerantz put public pressure on bragg to actually charge trump. we know this was overlooked many times and yet alvin bragg went forward with it. >> this is pretty sad, it's a sad commentary in the current state of justice in the united states. there's no way in the world that this case would now be occurring

in new york if it weren't for the fact that donald trump is currently running for president. when you start to politicize justice you are getting on a very wrong track for the u.s. this could come back to haunt us some point in the future. what happened to the scales of justice i don't know anymore. it depends whether or not somebody likes you or whether or not you represent a right political party. maria: terrible. i'm happy to see that the supreme court is actually looking at and talking this out. were just getting started. quick break. wrapping up a major week in first-quarter earnings, chevron out in just a few minutes. we'll see what earnings look like, laffer tango investment cio nancy tango with her outlook on investing today. our power panel our doug collins and fox news contributor tomi lahren are here for the entire 8:00 a.m. hour. join us you're watching "mornings with maria", live on fox business. we'll be right back.

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on the push for artificial intelligence business, that stock better than 4%, chevron earnings out in just a moment you will have those momentarily. getting ahead laffer tengler investment cio nancy tengler is with me as chevron chairs are about half 8%. thank you so much for being here. i love the fact that you look at fundamentals. i want to get your take on it, how are earnings from your standpoint in terms of fundamental growth. >> i pinned the piece on monday that suggested we would see a slowing economy. last week's earnings were disappointing from the industrials. we saw guidance lowered in some cases and other cases we solid reaffirmed but very few instances of earnings being guided up but this week takes the cake in the same piece we reaffirmed our commitment to technology and a lot of people have been saying it's over and a.i. is not real and you saw

yesterday microsoft earnings contributed materially to earnings and the google news was fantastic, we on both microsoft the 12 best ideas portfolio. we're very pleased with what they deliver, we think were just getting started early innings in the a.i. race. maria: yesterday we saw the obvious slowdown that you're referring to, we had gdp at 1.6%, compare that to the quarter before at two plus% in the quarter before the at 4.9% you talking about gdp going from 4.1% from or .6% in a couple of quarters. even though the macro story is slowing you will see outsize growth from big tech. >> infected a slowing economic environment you want to own companies that have reliable earnings growth. if you take a company like service now that reported this week up over 24% that's what i

want to own in a slowing environment but what was more troubling some of the gdp slowdown was inventory subtracting and trade about 1.3%, we are slowing and what was more troubling the quarter pce of 3.7%. that should be what we will see today with the pce numbers. nobody wants to see slowing economic growth and rising inflation. maria: inflation has been persistent, sticker shock is in food, fuel, rent. will today be a market mover and you think it's going to stay appear for a little bit? >> i think those of us that live in the real world know prices are 20% higher so only on wall street do we look at the rate of change and say good prices are only going up 0.3%. americans are hurting, i think that is very clear. we continue to draw our analogy

to the 1990s were you had stronger economic growth and strong productivity and they were able to coexist with strong stock prices. maria: jamie dimon collated the 1970s. able to get to the earnings breaking, chevron right now earnings beating expectation there actually beating on earnings-per-share and revenue. earnings $2.93 a share. revenue of 48.7 billion. expectations were for 287 a share on revenue of 56.6 billion. 293 on revenue of 48.7 billion it could be a mess on revenue even though it's beating on earnings. stock is up flat a quarter of 8%, what is your take on the oil sector. >> we own chevron it is a disappointment that they missed on revenues and that really tells you what they see from the demand standpoint. i think a tell this company settles the hess arbitration

with exxon it does not go anywhere for quite some time and has performed about half of what exxon has performed year-to-date. it's being held back. maria: would you buy oil companies knowing the oil may stay up in the 80s for some time. >> we are overweight but that's not saying much because industry weighting is pretty low in the s&p but we own fang, chevron, eog, we like those names you're getting paid to wait for things to get better via the dividend. we are pretty happy that were not adding to the group and were happy with our position the way it is. maria: then there's the fed, let me bring john dansk en. the federal reserve alpha-1 c meeting next week. obviously we won't see them move in rates next week but we could get more commentary on whether or not a cut soon or sooner than later. >> that is true, the market does

not see the first rate cut occurring if it doesn't have a september 18 meeting of the fomc. the reality is we have to see a material slowdown if we have a just entered this inflationary economy. we don't have that yet. you're talking about the court pce price index that was a surprise on the high side. if i worked this number out it's telling me for the month of march the court pce index was up by five tenths of 8%. earlier the gain was expected to be only three tens of 8%. finally on the gdp report all of the growth came from consumer services for consumer spending. spending on durables was down, spending on non- durables was down and moreover one of the reasons though of reading was so

low because government spending grew by over 1% as opposed to faster than 4% growth in the final quarter of last year. if you take out government, this is a lackluster economy. maria: that's a great point and i'm glad you raised it. i want to get your take on that. i spoke with stephanie palm boy after the number was out and she said of the 1.6% growth, yesterday that we saw in the g gdp, consumer spending on housing, healthcare and insurance was up one point to percent. out of 1.6% yet one point to percent spent on housing, healthcare and insurance, that is all inflation. >> i think you want to pay attention to what john said about government growth that showed up in the non- foreign payroll numbers last week or month, whatever it was it was largely government and non- growth areas of the economy. i would say look to the '90s for the fed's playbook you can

have higher for longer and the rates compared to my career are not very high based on history the average 5 - 7% the tenure in the 1990s and stocks had a nice run. it just matters what you own. maria: it was good to see you, thank you so much. maria: your morning mover is snapped, checking out the premarket is up three the social media platform soaring after double be on the first-quarter earnings and revenue, the stock is up 23%, revenue was up 21% in nearly one point to billion driven by improvement and the companies advertising platform, the stock is down 34% year to date on snap. former nypd inspector fox news contributor paul mauro is here on the protest shaking of college campuses across the country live after the break. stay with us.

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of anti-semitism on campus. former new york city police department inspector, fox news contributor and the ops desk founder. lawyer paul mauro. thank you for being here. how do you assess what's going on on the universities and now the palestinians are saying they're getting discriminated on. >> this is going to get worse and we should all be prepared there were measures that could have been taken up front that might've tamped it down. i think the trespass violation charge which is a glorified parking summons was a mistake and i think it's likely all the president of columbia would exceed two but all of it was in power of the folks that got them back out there. now will enter the summer protest season and you have all the coronation going on from democrat funding organizations incarnate in committees it's all the dark money that goes to not only candidates but we've seen an occupied wall street in summer 11 of 2020. what we have coming up, we have made a coming up which is a big

day for all of this could lead to the dnc in chicago we distant from new york, minneapolis, even l.a., chicago is going to look like 1968 this is a problem for the dems it's going to continue but the loss is no merit. maria: there's a story in the new york post this is george soros is paying student radicals who are fueling nationwide explosion of israel hating protest. in the piece the post writes this all of the protests are being organized by branches of the soros funded students for justice in palestine, sjp and some students have collapsed with police. were trying to figure out who's behind all of this. obviously it's courtney did they all have the same color tented outfits and somebody is funding all of this. one of my guest said don't be surprised if you learn more that it's a communist china party,

the communist party of china a high did as well but this story is talking about the sjp parent organization funded by a network of on profits funded by among others george soros the billionaire left-wing investor. >> we've seen this in the past they use the dark money cut out and it's funded through subsidiaries so it's difficult to follow, that's why last monday you saw when this kicked off the protest occurred simultaneously in cities across the country this is before they occupy columbia but we had all these protest i was out there so i was up close on them the protester very, very much like occupy. is not to students i've seen the ages of some of the arrestees there in their mid-20s well past college age. you can see there going out at the same time all over the country and they have the same tests and obviously this

coordination and somebody is pulling the strings. maria: unbelievable what about the story of the day house judiciary republicans say alvin bragg and the das office allow political motivation and animus to infect the prosecutorial discretion in the so-called hush money case. the judiciary chairman jim jordan says that x new york prosecutor mark pomerantz put pressure on alvin bragg to charge trump and people are looking at the trial saying we still don't understand what the crime is in the threatening years and years in prison for donald trump, what is the crime. >> we talked about this when the indictment came down. it's got no clear, 34 counts but all goes to a felony to get under the statute of limitations. based on the second crime the alvin bragg has still not hallucinated. that's a real problem. in the sense donald trump still doesn't know specifically what is charged with. the reason for that, the secondary charge is the one that is really problematic. it's a federal election charge. alvin bragg has no jurisdiction. the case law in new york says

you cannot use a federal statute to bump the state charge that's the way the state law goes. real estate you have to rely on a tax charge or something but the problem with that why didn't he charge it he has jurisdiction over that, the examination of this and why it was brought forward really has merit because the case is almost certainly not going to hold up on appeal and then you have to say after everybody else passed on it including alvin bragg's office originally, why did he go forward. maria: the legal situation is going to feature prominently in new york the verdict possibly in may or early june. i want to know what this means for the election. really interesting hearing, president trump speaking out about the first day of supreme court hearings on presidential immunity where some of the justices seem to be open to granting some level of protection of immunity for president trump, watch this.

>> i think it was made clear and i hope it was made clear that a president has to have immunity. you don't have a president or at most you can say it would be a ceremonial president and that's not what the founders had in mind and the justices were on the game. presidential immunity is imperative or you practically won't have a country anymore. maria: what did you think of the scotus hearing yesterday. >> i learned it's always difficult to hear the tea leaves on them and they were all over the place obviously but i think what were likely looking at trying to divide some test to ascertain when the president asked if he is acting in an official capacity or private interests. i think that test will likely come down as the majority in this is just a guess. there will be all kinds of defense even within the majority we get a majority, that will go down to the lower courts and

they will have to use the test to ascertain what happened here in as justice gorsuch said what that's going to involve is looking into the mind of the president and trying to ascertain motive why was he doing what he was doing and the outer limits of both sides, one side best articulated by justice jackson and the other by corsets, comes down to the two extremes because as neil gorsuch said you speaking to the ages this will be with us for the rest of our lives, remember whether it evolves to the credit of the sitting president or not during an election we should remember that it is part of the president's official duties to ensure that the integrity of our election system is sound whether it cuts against him or not and it's an argument that donald trump's actions if he believed that the election had really been undermined are within his official duties if he felt like it had been impugned. maria: were to be watching that. by the way it's good to see you.

i wanted to ask you about harvey weinstein and the rape charge overturned in new york. real quick. >> i think that's very significantly for the donald trump case because the donald trump involves prior bad acts and that's what got the weinstein case thrown out. it's sandoval all the two cases that are implemented. that is likely going to matter if the case appeals for donald trump. let me just say for this reason and others i can tell you and go to the top question. as a cop and not as a lawyer. if i had brought this into the manhattan district attorney's and asked them to go forward they would've laughed me out of the room rate is only because his name is trump. count on that. maria: taken to the bank, i'm sure you're right, paul mauro joining us. i want to tell you exxon mobil is out and the numbers are below the revenue. it looks like a beat at 83.0 wait billion. that's better than expected but the earnings are amiss the earnings copy to dollars and 6

cents versus an estimate of 2.20. the stock is down 3% on exxon mobil. that's what you see the dow industrial come off the highs. quick break hudson institute jonathan ward is here on anthony blinken strip, he said the united states must focus diplomatic efforts everywhere but beijing as secretary of state info duplicate wraps up the trip in beijing after the break. stay with us. ♪ i love your dress. oh thanks! i splurged a little because liberty mutual customized my car insurance and i saved hundreds. that's great. i know, right? i've been telling everyone.

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stock is down about 2.5% on the mixed report. lauren simonetti with the details. >> it was a miss on the bottom line. eps was $2.6, that was adjusted and missed. a big be on revenue of $83.08 billion. exxon mobil expects record oil and gas demand this year, that's a good sign for the economy holding up but also plans to hold the pioneer merger in the second quarter. as we noted exxon shares down 2.5% in the premarket. other headlines, new york federal judge has rejected former president trump's request for a new trial and the defamation case brought by i ching carol, the judge upheld the ruling that he must pay more than $83 million in damages, trump's legal team said the court severely limited trump's testimony which they say influenced the jury's verdict. net neutrality remember that

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companies would've created the largest copper mine are in the world with 10% production, copper is a major material and ev batteries. this is typical during the first talking when companies are trying to make a deal, we will follow it. the first round of the 2024 nfl draft wrapping up in detroit to heisman winners going first and second. the chicago bears with the first pick, usc quarterback caleb williams. washington commanders with the second pick, lsu quarterback jaden daniels and new england patriots with drake may. one selection checkup football fans michael penn ask junior went eighth to the atlanta falcons that signed a $180 million deal with the veteran quarterback kirk cousins last month. >> the atlanta falcons select michael penick's junior, quarterback from washington.

>> the first downer. >> the first downer, the draft resumes tonight, round two, 7:0k at all those people. that is awesome. everyone's looking for the next patrick mahomes, why so many quarterbacks were picked. maria: i enjoyed that and i was flipping around and i watched a little of it. coach billick teamed up with us when he joined us and it was fun to watch. >> i did not watch it i take your word for it but i did all my reading this morning and i said quarterbacks and demand. maria: anthony blinken meeting with xi jinping in beijing earlier as he wraps up the three day trip to china. xi jinping telling anthony blinken that china is happy to see a confident open prosperous and thriving united states. he hopes the u.s. can also look at china's development in a

positive light, anthony blinken meeting with china's foreign minister for six hours who told info duplicate that the china u.s. relationship is beginning to stabilize that warned that negative factors were increasing. here is anthony begin this morning on the trip. watch. >> i'm pleased to announce that today we agreed to hold the first u.s. prc talks on artificial intelligence to be held in the coming weeks. will share our respective views on the risks and safety concerns around advanced a.i. and how best to manage them. we also spoke about ways to grow people people ties between our countries particularly educational exchanges. maria: what ultimately got done from this another meeting with u.s. officials in china hudson institute senior fellow alice organization founder and the decisive decade. jonathan dt ward. always a pleasure, anything strike you about anthony blinken strip this time? >> i don't think this is time

with the communist party of china, going over there talking about what we can cooperate on as they undertake the most significant military buildup in modern history, major nuclear buildup as they continue to ship fentanyl into the united states killing tens of thousands of americans in the idea that while the working groups in discussions over high-end technology that are patently dual use in military and strategic competition. were not a point in the competition where we even have a grand strategy that has anything focused on winning. i personally am losing my patience with some of the meetings. at his press conference this morning he talks about having a working group with the communist party of china on fentanyl. after congress released a report that explains that the ccp is directly subsidizing the manufacture of a fentanyl. i just don't find this terribly useful. it was supposedly blinking over there to explain that there would be serious consequences for their support of vladimir putin's invasion of ukraine. if that is true that the

meaningful message that has to be delivered. but classical diplomacy is about victory and organizing the international order so our interest ultimately prevail over the most potent adversaries that there are. i think this is not in my view of the diplomacy of victory in off the diplomacy of shaping international order against the main adversary, there's some of that there was a great visit with japan's prime minister in south korea but i think we need to be focused, the state department has to be focused on the global contest against the horrific regime and beijing. i think the use of engagement we did for 40 years and we transform china from a state to an industrial and technological superpower and i don't think there is anything that we have left to give that will improve this relationship. it's about focusing on defeating them in geopolitical global

competition. maria: that's not what we hear from anthony blinken. a minute ago he was telling us were going to share information on a.i., something tells me the chinese are not going to share anything with other using a.i. particularly as they apply a.i. to the military as you just said, there is a story in the journal that says states take on china in the name of national security. i thought it was interesting to go through the states and america that are been tough on china like for example they are talking about governor glenn youngkin and kristi noem has been tough saying you cannot come here and buy land in south dakota next to our military installation same thing governor glenn youngkin has said about virginia. are the states doing more than actual federal government to protect the country against communist china? >> we have to realize beijing strategy toward the u.s. is a new willed or level in approaches the individual states and cities in the legislature

inside american states. look at how to player system that's been true for a long time and a lot has to do with the trade ties you have the china lobbying groups in washington explaining every state has its own trading relationship with china and that sort of thing. i think it's important for our states to get smarter in our governors to understand how this works. unfortunately when we saw governor newsom go over to have his photo ops with beijing and discuss electric vehicles and those sorts of things. were not focused as a nation on how to win this game other than in congress with encouraging were coming on a bipartisan way but i do think we have to learn how to play this across the board. it is not just washington versus beijing it's going to be the whole country that's going to have to get into this game and figure out how to compete. part of this is going to be the prosperity of our own state system and building trade ties with other countries that are

actually our friends learning to offset the large chunk of trade with china that could be done at the state level and i think that will be important. maria: it includes other constituents that beijing has tried to lobby like ceo, businesslike hollywood, like universities. you mention congress marco rubio and elise stefanik calling on the administration to block all sales to huawei after the blacklisted chinese company listed a computer powered by intel processor chip. they rated congress secretary gina raimondo this. this'll be unacceptable in a failure to export against the blacklisted champion of the ccp which is actively working against the security interest of the united states. we urge you to reconsider the damaging posture and immediately revoke all export licenses to huawei. a word on huawei, you've done an incredible amount of work and i brought this and my book the

cost which came out in 2020. huawei is the ccp's main tool of surveillance, is that not in terms of surveilling other countries. huawei equipment is used around the world and now you have these two lawmakers urging gina raimondo the congress department not to get business to huawei and put the pipes in american homes and businesses because they are spying on us. >> huawei has come roaring back, this is very distressing there at the end of 2023, the total revenue $100 billion so that put them squarely in the fortune global 100. one of the biggest companies in the world and they have been allowed to grow back and a lot of success and focus in the trump administration on getting them out of the alliance system and pushing them out of the u.s. we got them out of australia and the uk. they have been on tiktok without any real economic damage to themselves. but huawei the fbi told us years ago is just at the centerpiece

of china's intent to dominate international telecommunication infrastructure, the chairman of the board was a former employee of chinese state security services. it's a long list we all know that but they have been able to come back and most of this revenue was in the china market and their access to american technology has allowed them to produce new products. one announced during gina raimondo's visit, the handset that they released and there's still international companies, they've a lot of revenue and europe and africa and asia. we have a big job to do when it comes to huawei. i think it's unfortunate that they have come back. we have to focus on finishing the job. maria: great to have the check, we appreciate your time. jonathan d.t. ward on communist china in the trip. we'll be right back.

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$4.8 million in television and digital ads to push back on the legislation but it's coming the president signing into law this week. zimmerman advertising founder and chairman jordan zimmerman. it's great to see you, thank you so much for being here. i imagine this has to be a major dilemma for advertisers everywhere. i want to get your expert opinion in terms of the dilemma of using tiktok owned by communist china and reaching all the users on tiktok, how you see it? >> first of all good morning it's good to see you and thank you for having me on. i have a big opinion first of all if you go back in history our government would've never allowed a chinese company involved with the chinese government to own any one of our broadcasting linear systems today so why would they allow them to have any part of tiktok

the new aged media outlet here today. i think his absolute insanity and i think as we go through today your audience will see it's insanity as well. the me give you one more stop in the 50s and 60s the federal government had to step in and stop subliminal advertising meaning, a lot of your audience have annoyed you what it is. they would cut and frames throughout their content in the commercials that would influence behavior from you. i believe that is happening now with tiktok their influence people in america, youth in america and their influencing maybe even elections in america through subliminal content. when i looked at that i had to step back and take a breath and say could not be happening, look what's happening other campuses across the country.

over 100 arrests just this week alone. maria: you are saying all of this unrest at the college campuses do you think the ccp is behind the? that's what one of my guests said yesterday. >> i 100% think they do. talk to the students and see what they say they have no idea why they're chanting the river to the sea palestinian will free. there calling for the annihilation of israel. look at the tents there is tents everywhere they all look the same, look at the people. they look like the conductors on every single campus. i'm amazed this is happened in our country the way it has. i truly believe it's been influenced by tiktok. let me say this i think tiktok is an amazing platform but it

should not be owned by a chinese company and controlled by the chinese government. maria: you made the point in the past that you're talking about 170 million active users on tiktok in america. what are companies doing an advertisers doing saying i want to reach those people, its own by the ccp in it's a risk to my own security. >> is interesting that's a great question. the advertisers care about one thing they need to get results. you know were driven by quarters in those quarters make sure we can grow, 170 million active users is more than half of our population in america and their spending hours scrolling and scrolling through in getting messages and you say how could this be happening why should this be happening.

in the getting messages to go to the elected officials until our elected officials don't love them in america don't let this happen. they're a very powerful network. i want everybody watching understand that they are at risk you are at risk having your data stolen in your credit card data stolen. been influenced toward an election and being spied on amtrak. once they have our phones they can go anywhere and they know everything about us. that's not who we are and who were supposed to be in americans. >> that's a great point that's why the tone must be set at the top. companies will do whatever is allowable under the law that's why it must be said the tone from the top. advertising last time he joined the economic backdrop has a lot to do with how people are spending money, how are they >> they're spending more

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