is getting shorter and shorter. maria: you're going to react as a father sending his daughter to college. you'll remember who did what. >> i had a conversation about her checking out columbia, nyu, ut austin at some point. when this is happening, look, i think columbia's $89,000 a year, tuition, room and board combined. this is what you get for 89 grand a year. students have no idea what they're protesting. when you don't understand the complexity of a situation it's probably best to sit that one out. maria: president biden us is headed to syracuse but he has no plans to visit columbia university. mike johnson gave a heated address at the school yesterday. the speaker called on columbia's president to he resign as protesters heckled him. watch this. >> [ indiscernible ]

>> enjoy your free speech. anti-israel encampments are popping up at universities all across the country. it was i c chaos on that campus. we looked out a sea of students faces with rage. so many of them don't know what the heck they're talking about. this is not the expression of free speech, not the free exchange of ideas in the public square. this is he threatening and intimidating jewish students because of who they are, what they believe. maria: former president obama, a former columbia alum, has not made comments about the violent rhetoric. >> the contrast is stark between democrats reaction to charlottesville and their reaction at this moment. i think obama's silence is deafening, the white house saying this is a private

institution so we're not going to say anything, had this is absolutely outrageous. i'm really thankful when you hear people speaking out, mike johnson, thank you for getting out there. scott galway had some really great comments about if any other race was singled out the way jews are singled off right now, they would be kicked off campus without a second's notice. student ids would be invalid right away. it's unbelievable that this is okay. they're taking over institutions. students are afraid to go to school. they have to have remote optioptions, for $89,000 you can watch classes online because you're afraid to go to class. maria: the white house may not say anything right now. they claim they don't want to get involved, this he's a private issue. they said enough two weeks ago when chuck schumer went on the senate floor and demanded that benjamin netanyahu do elections because he no longer served the people of israel and joe biden

follows up and says that was a really good speech. they've done a fair amount of ttalking already and joe biden calling for a cease fire and telling netanyahu how to respond to war. does this empower things like that, you've got the white house attacking net netanyahu duringe big ofest fight of his life. >> he' he's stabbing him in te back. the colleges, this has been going on for years, always anti-american, always anti-westerners. i think these are orchestrated efforts by the left to have protests everywhere and the biden administration isn't going to speak out against them because they want the votes and this idea that they're private institutions, well, they're haheavily subsidized by awful u,

more so -- by all of us, more so by president biden's loan forgiveness. give me a break. maria: we're trying to figure out who is behind all of this. coincidentally, quote, unquote, they all have the same tents, they all have the same clothing. who is funding this. the department of homeland security confirmed that foreign students could potentially face deportation if they're suspended from their courses while on a stunted visa -- student visa. that's one way to say you want to be part of the protests the, you want to create discord in america, you'll be sent back. i don't know if i'm believing it. what do you think? >> i'm not believing it. they won't do it. maria: they won't do it. >> the universities depend so heavily on foreign students, they will fight against it too because they are paying the full tuition and all of these things so i don't believe it. they're just saying this, again, lip service. let's wait to see the first person that actually gets deported. >> i like to see one person get scolded. that's the thing.

the students aren't getting kicked out. there's no consequences for this action. so sure, you'll pull your student visa if the there's consequences but there aren't any consequences. >> there's 11 million migrants. they're not sending any of them back. they're certainly not going to send students back. they're not going to do it. and let's not forget if you sit in front of n an aabortion clinc and pray you go to prison for 10 years. we talk about this two tiered system of justice, like these protests where there's -- i just saw fire. that doesn't seem very peaceful to me. the democrats are going to tell you these are peaceful protests, no big deal. they're not peaceful. maria: let's hear from kjp when talking about protests across the country yesterday. watch this. >> this is a deeply painful, painful moment for many communities and we understand that. but the president believes that free speech debate and nondiscrimination on college campus puses are important, thee

important american values so he'll always be very clear, we will always be very clear about that here. but protests must be peaceful. students must be safe. when we see violent rhetoric we have to call that out. maria: more talking points there, lee. your thoughts? >> where's the violent rhetoric? there's you violent rhetoric, there's no doubt about it. students have said they're afraid. they've left campus. they're calling police officers pigs. thetalking about all these othe- it's unbelievable. she's dancing around the issues. it's a painful issue for many communities. say their names, say what we're talking about and they just won't. they want to have it every which way. they want to be on both sides of the issue. we'll tough on this side, friends of israel, but they better spard gaza. you can't have it -- better support gaza. you can't have it every which

way. maria: imagine if trump said anything like that. aoc doesn't want cops anywhere. look at the tweet alexandria ocasio-cortez put out. not only did columbia make the horrific decision to mobilize nypd on their students but the units called in have some of the most violent reputations on the force. nypd promised the city they the won't deploy srg to protests so why are the counter terrorist units here. she doesn't want any cops here. why are they there? because clearly columbia felt they needed to calm this down. they needed the nypd. >> yeah. well, look, the students who aren't protesting you need to make sure they're safe but they're not going to class anymore. they're doing it virtually. when it comes to safety, one of the interesting things, at the beginning of these protests there were no cops there but they were handing out face masks just in case for safety purposes. there were volunteers handing out face masks which was insane.

when you think about students not understanding what they're protesting and you kind of rewind back to blm and you remember people didn't really understand what black lives matter was all about and then patrice, whatever her name is, the co-founder, she ended up buying four luxury houses worth 3.2 million with donations that came in. you have to research this stuff before you put your neck out there. maria: for sure. we are looking at pictures from austin, texas on wednesday. this has gotten worse throughout the week. these anti-israel protesters at usc. we're just getting started this hour. we're going to slip in a short break. we've got tech earnings on deck tonight, alphabet and microsoft report after the bell tonight. you saw what meta numbers have done to the market this morning. meta is down 13% and the dow industrials right now down 218. the word on wall street panel is here with expectations. don't miss that. you're watching "mornings with maria" live on fox business. we'll be right back. ♪ don't show up. ♪ don't come out.

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maria: welcome back. time for the word on wall street, top investors watching your money. joining me is asset management president and chief investment officer, question kevin monn. also with us is mark tepper. kevin, thank you for joining the conversation. >> my pleasure. maria: we had airlines reporting, southwest, caterpillar, american airlines reporting earlier this morning. southwest missed on the expectations, stock right now is down almost 9% after the first quarter results missed. they also cut jet delivery forecasts for boeing. american airlines reported a double miss, it reported record revenue, 12.6 billion in revenue. stock is up better than 4%. we're watching caterpillar.

stock is down 4% this morning after its numbers. meta reported better than expected earnings last night, was weak on revenue outlook. the stock is down better than 14%. meta put focus on artificial intelligence. mark zuckerberg said for the next two years the company will focus on growing products and engagement before focusing on momonetizing the business. give us your reaction and expectations ahead of the big ones tonight. >> big tech earnings are incredibly important to the psyche of investors. we cover them so much in the media and many individual investors and asset managers hold big tech names, particularly the mag seven. why is the earnings season so important. the s&p 500 companies are expected to grow earnings only by one half of 1% in the first quarter. but you know what tech the following sector is expected to hegrow by over 20%. with we need the technologies to raise the tide which will lived

the other boats in the ocean. maria: what about second half of the year. that's where the issue is. meta last night, weak revenue expectations, is that going to be the trend for big tech. >> i think it is. i think it will be about cap ex and a.i. we refreshed from facebook they're investing more and more into a.i. infrastructure. what does that mean? data centers. microsoft was reporting later today, just announced they're going to bu build over $2 billin in data centers in japan by 2025. that's going to hurt revenue estimates. over the long term that's going to position them to grow their earnings even more so brace yourself. maria: i'm bracing myself for a he slowdown in the economy. we've been talking about this for a long time, mark. we may not have seen the impact of 11 rate hikes yet. we're got the owner of gucci selling off yesterday, the company's key brand, gucci seeing a 20% decline in revenue. theythey're talking about lower demand for you gucci.

your thoughts. >> this is alarming. we've been talking for months and months about how the lower income consumer has been impacted, how middle america has been impacted. i mean, lower income consumers you've got to work two jobs to put food on the table your target shopper has become a walmart shopper. once you're in walmart, you're not buying name brand stuff, you're buying private label generic stuff. there's all these tradedowns happening of. last quarter, darden mentioned that foot traffic in olive gar olivegarden, for people making s than 75 grand a year went down significantly. people making 250 grand or more they saw a huge increase in foot traffic. what does that mean? that means your capital grill, you know, person who is going to capital grill, the customer is trading down to also of i've ga- olive garden. i'm very concerned this is finally starting to hit the higher end consumer. gucci obviously a big name

brand. luxury brand. and the fact they're down -- revenues are down 20% year over year, they do have some business specific issues but i'm very concerned about the higher end consumer no longer -- you know, scaling back on discretionary purchases and focusing more on essentials. maria: what will you be watching to see if the this is the first of a domino effect to fall in terms of high end? >> i want to see any narrative coming out of lvmh, the parent company of louis vuitton. maria: they're in lots of businesses like champagne and upscale -- >> at least with regards to the louis vuitton, handbags and things like that, i want to know this business specific to gucci, i don't think it's purely business specific. i think this has to do with a slowdown in demand. maria: maria: look at interest rates this morning, the 10 year treasury yield trading this way ahead of the first read of first quarter gdp out, it's out this morning at 8:30 a.m. and the yield on the 10 year at 4.65%. on the gdp we're expecting

growth of 2.4%. we've got the fed's preferred read on inflation as well. the march pce index is out on friday. kevin, let's talk about the fed. we've got the fomc meeting next week. will we hear more over time, over time, jay powell keeps saying that. i think they're giving up on the 2% target. >> in have. the long awaited economic slowdown has finely come to fortune as we can see the 2.4% growth for the fourth quarter. they raised the inflation target to 2.6%. that tells me they're more concerned with the economic slowdown dipping into recession than they are with inflation staying above 2%. i think there's a path forward for three interest rate cuts this year but don't expect that first one any time before july. maria: three rate cuts. i think that is -- you're sticking your neck out with that one. >> that's their forecast, not mine. maria: markets are expecting that. if we don't get that, are we going to see a harsh selloff.

we've seen a tough beginning to the second quarter. we're down another 2 listen right now. >> i think we will see a pullback. i don't know if they'll move forward with the three rate cuts. they could cut july. they don't meet in august. they won't do anything before p september. they come back after the election, they could cut then and one more time in december. i don't know if they're going to do it. be there could still be three interest rate cuts. maria: i could believe a cut after the election. that's where i am on this. >> why? why cut? because we're add i addicted to% interest rates. inflation is reaccelerating. if the economy is growing, we're not in a recession. why would cut? look, i think it's possible that we do get one cut this year. maria: one cut, yeah. >> ing what you're going to start to hear out of the fomc meetings, you're going to start to hear comments about a potential rate hike. maybe not this year. maybe sometime next year.

but they're at least going -- there's go to be few people who bring it up and that has the potential to really spook investors. >> i would remind you, in the early 1980s when tall paul was fair chan of the federal reserve, he raised interest rates and that brought on a recession. maria: let's take a short break. kevin, it's great to see you. thank you so much. have a gre day. coming p up, all scranton joe said he will let trump's tax cuts expire as he tries to act relateable to union workers. pennsylvania congressman scott perry is here with reaction from pennsylvania. you're watching "mornings with maria" live on fox business. stay with us. ♪ i need something you proof. ♪ something stronger than i'm used to. ♪ i've been pulling 90 to 100, feel like nothing's gonna cut it, that's the hard truth.

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her uncle's unhappy. i'm sensing an underlying issue. it's t-mobile. it started when we tried to get him under a new plan. but they they unexpectedly unraveled their “price lock” guarantee. which has made him, a bit... unruly. you called yourself the “un-carrier”. you sing about “price lock” on those commercials. “the price lock, the price lock...” so, if you could change the price, change the name! it's not a lock, i know a lock. so how can we undo the damage? we could all unsubscribe and switch to xfinity. their connection is unreal. and we could all un-experience this whole session. okay, that's uncalled for. maria: welcome back. president biden says he wanted the senate border deal to be included in the foreign aid package. karine jean-pierre down playing the impact of a border executive order from the president. watch this. >> there's one thing this bill

does not do, border security. i proposed and negotiated and aagreed to the strongest border security bill the country has ever, ever, ever seen. should have been included in the bill. >> no executive action is actually going to do what that border security plan would have done. maria: that plan would have allowed, what, 5 million people every day, 5 and-a-half million people every day to come into america before anything is done about it. >> right. yeah. maria: that was the border -- >> 5,000 -- mar maria: 5,000 a day. >> it's ut utter nonsense. everything you hear from this administration is complete nonsense or totally false. they could change it tomorrow. the idea that it's a congressional issue, they haven't passed the right bilker it's total nonsense. they could stop the issue. they don't have the will to tell people not to come, to deport people, to use the correct

terms. i think now we're on the like fifth euphamism, it's newcomers, they call people that come to the united states and exploit the system. utter and complete nonsense, false narratives. i don't think the people will buy this. maria: 5,000 people a day. i don't know why republicans weren't getting behind that. no one told the senators to go back to square one and come up with a new immigration policy in the face of an election year. we wanted to see some security at the border. >> right. exactly. the problem is n forcement. this administration has been on the record that they don't want to enforce the law and they've been of of the record saying even if you commit very serious crimes we won't he d deport you. everyone knows about laken riley. there's many cases like that. there are going to be more.

they're tarting to talk about sanctuary cities. they bt haven't put the hammer on it. they've encouraged it. joe biden campaigned on it, supporting sanctuary cities. maria: president biden picked up an a endorsement yesterday. he claimed that trump doesn't share the same values as hard hd working americans. >> people like trump look down on us. we all know somebody we grew up with like that. i look at the economy, i don't see it through the eyes of mar-a-lago, i see it through the eyes of scranton, working people like all of you and my family. maria: president biden posted this on x. he plans to let the trump era tax cuts expire, claiming they only benefit the wealthy. mark, we know that not to be true. this trickles down. and we just saw the other day a new report that the majority of yaudits at the irs are going to people making $200,000 or lower. they're getting audited.

>> correct. look, this is going to affect everyone and one of biden's recommendations in his tax plan -- by the way, we do not have a tax revenue problem as a country. we have a spending problem. okay. so it's not tax revenues. but one of the things he wants to do is raise the capital -- long-term capital gains and dividend rate to 44.6%. and then when you throw the state capital gains rate on top of that, there's going to be a lot of states where it's greater than 50%. with capital gains, let's not forget, that is not indexed with inflation. right? so the 20% we've seen of inflation since biden took office, now you get to pay 50% tax on that 20% inflation as well. maria: wow. you look at a state level, that's why people are leaving blue states. they're moving out of new york and new york is looking under every rock for revenue. now they have this congestion fee that people have to pay. people are just not having it, lee. >> well, and they're forcing

people onto public transportation he which is the whole goal of it but people aren't feeling safe. it's absolutely outrageous. the amount of money that people have to pay to live in new york to live in california. i just want to go back to something that joe biden just said. we all know somebody b who looks down on you. and implying that donald trump looks down on people. i think that's hilarious, actually. one of the biggest arguments, one of the biggest problems republicans have is they're continuously dismissed. kaye youkatie couric said you ce intellectually curious and be a republican. you've got hillary clinton calling republicans a basket full of he deplorables. they're looking down on half of americans and they're trying to say they're the ones fighting for the people. people see right through it. it's absolutely a joke. maria: that's such a good point. you're absolutely right. he looks down on people.

>> the eyes of scranton are looking down on you. maria: exactly. >> unbelievable. >> that's the greatest point. you watch donald trump interact with these blue collar people, with these police officers, other things like that. maria: look at him this morning. >> he likes them. they b don't think he's looking down on them. he likes them, he relates to them. lee's exactly right. the number of terms president biden uses for his political opponents, the consistent the c, calling their concerns racist, things like that. it's so disgusting. president biden knows he ha has he has todivide the country to . it's so cynical. people can see president trump relates to people. look outside what we saw earlier today, people love him. he loves them. president biden can't even go through -- go to a store or do anything else without showing how disconnected he is from the regular people. maria: you know, good for trump

to go and stop at a campaign -- make it a campaign stop uptown in man had hat taken, outside the jp morgan building as he talks to construction workers, he starts signing hats, make america great hats. he has to do it before 9:00 because he has to be in the courtroom. he jammed in a campaign stop to talk to the people before he has to be in court all day. >> it's pretty incredible. he's doing whatever he can. he's got limited time. but what did biden say? he said i don't see such and such through the eyes of mar-a-lago, i see it through you the eyes of scrap on or something -- scranton or something like that. i don't know if you saw on x when he was driving through scranton, he didn't get a warm welcome at all. it was pretty vile. maria: here's the welcome that trump got today. they were chanting four more years, we want trump and usa. >> in new york city. maria: in new york city. that's why president trump thinks he can actually win new

york. what do you think? >> i think the enthusiasm level for donald trump is so different than joe biden. seven in 10 trump voters say they're doing so enthusiastically. only three in 10 biden supporters say they're doing so enthusiastically. 28%. there's a huge difference in how people turn out. you see it. you feel it. i can't help but wonder what that means for voter turnout. if you're not excited to vote, are you going to show up. maria: i'd like to know what it means for the jury in the courtroom as well. when we come back the race for the white house heats up. we're on it. 706% of voters say the economy is -- 70% of voters say the economy is a big issue. we will talk about the state of the race. you're watching "mornings with maria" live on fox business. stay with us. ♪

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maria: welcome back. the attorney general of arizona announcing indictments related to the 2020 election. lauren simonetti with details now. >> 18 people indicted in arizona including rudy giuliani and mark meadows for what a grand jury said were efforts to overturn the 2020 election. former president donald trump also named as an unindicted co-consico-conspirator. also, all 29 state house democrats and three republicans voted in favor of the repeal and

now it moves to the state senate. it is expected to also be repealed. a secret service agent assigned to vice president kamala harris' detail brawled with another agent on monday. a shift supervisor and special agent in charge tried to claim the agent who was starting to get a aggressive and then a physical altercation ensued. this is what the secret service said in a same. a u.s. commercial agent supporting the vice president's departure from joint base andrews began displaying behavior colleagues found distressing. the agent was removed from assignment while medical personnel were summoned. the u.s. secret service takes the safety and health of our employees very seriously. the fight happened before the vice president arrived at base andrews and the incident didn't delay kamala harris' travel. walmart is removing self checkout counters at two the additional stores because of skyrocketing retail theft. now waller parts in the

cleveland and shrewberry will remove the self checkouts. they say it's an effort to improve the in store experience. shoppers the cleveland say it means we'll have to wait in line longer. some people like it. some people hate it. in the end, a lot of people steal. stay and get paid. pga tour players reportedly getting money earned for not leaving for liv golf. tiger woods receiving the biggest payout, $100 million. that followed by roy mcilroy at $50 million. approximately $1 billion will be split between 193 golfers and how much a player receives is based on their career long you achievements and that's why tiger got 100 million reportedly. maria: that's a lot. it's because liv is paying up, right and they have to compete. >> and now the ones that stayed loyal to pga are getting

rewarded for it. maria: exactly. lauren, thank you. meanwhile, president trump using his time in new york city to his advantage meeting with construction workers earlier on the upper east side. he's got to be the in court later. he did a campaign stop at 63:00 6:30in the morning. here's what he said to reporters. >> we're very close in new york, i understand. we're leading in the country by a lot. a poll came out a little while ago as you saw yesterday that we're up in every swing state and up by a lot in every swing state so i think we're going to do very well and we're going to make a play for new york. maria: all this before he heads downtown for another day of the so-called hush money trial and by the way all those people around him were chanting four more years, we want trump, and usa. joining me is democrat consultant, former house judiciary committee chief counsel, jeffrey epstein and lead attorney jonathan madison. great to see you both. thanks so much. give us your reaction when you see the split screen of donald

trump talking to construction workers and then you see president biden saying four more years, pause, your thoughts? >> well, joe biden i record this rememberthis when he was in thee and i was in the senate he wanted to be a relateable person but it comes across as forced and scripted. in truth today he's not very relateable and donald trump is very relateable at least to working class voters. the polling numbers i think reflect the fact there is widespread economic dissatisfaction with this administration and their results. the elites in my party have an arrogance of believing that if they talk about things like the inflation reduction act and chips act and the infrastructure bills that voters will care and voters will be moved. the problem with that is there are performance issues with all of those legislative accomplishments and secondly voters don't care about them. what voters care about is the fact that they lost real income

under the biden administration, inflation continues to be high and that most of the jobs that are being created with his record deficit spending are either government jobs or part-time jobs. so biden is far behind on the economy, his relatability on the campaign stump is not particularly strong and on the other issues he is sort of far behind on almost every single issue, other than you abortion, he is far behind. when you talk about relateable issues, most working class voters, the majority voters in the country, find the cultural eliteism on the left on every issue from immigration, race, crime, down the list, not a position that they agree with so there's a cultural eliteism on the left that i think is seeping through and is why you see black and brown voters from the democratic party moving over to the republican side. it's a problem that the party leaders have failed to recognize.

maria: all really important points, julian. i think president trump was referring to the bloomberg poll revealing that trump is leading president biden in six of seven swing states right now, because of what julian went through. any gains biden may have made are vanishing due to voter pessimism about his handling of the economy. president biden is ahead by two points in michigan while trump leads in pennsylvania, wisconsin, georgia, arizona a, nevada, north carolina. jonathan, how do you see it? >> to your point about michigan, remember in 2016 trump carried that state when no poll thought he would so i think, look, he's probably leading in all seven just like he said. but i think biden has a bigger problem. biden has been pulling you out all of the stops and the problem is, he has no stops left to pull. he tried to buy votes last year by canceling student loan debt.

the supreme court told him no. and then some weeks just earlier he tried to do it on his own, i guess successfully did it on his own, by the way, by issuing more debt in the process. didn't really succeed or of get him any further in increasing his appeal to voters and now we understand that there's a lot of independent voters he was problem he bring relying on that see bidenomics for what it really is, inflationnomics. the problem is biden has a problem is the more he does, the further he goes back had in gains with voters. if there's a tune trump has been singing since day one, mau mari, it's all i do is win, no matter what. maria: it's a good point particularly in the face of gaffe after gaffe when president biden goes to a podium. watch this. just yesterday, watch. >> my predecessor rolled back protection for american workers,

owe posed increases on the federal minimum wage, was proud of the tax cut that overwhelmingly benefited the wealthy and created the biggest corporations and exploded the federal debt. it's going to expire and if i'm reelected it's going to stay expired. maria: he's promising -- he's promising, julian, to basically a allow the trump tax cuts to expire in an economy that is already questionable. t won't that actually be more pressure on people? >> yeah, i don't think his comparing the biden economic record to the trump economic record is a good idea for him. i think people by strong majorities feel that the trump economy was a better economy than the biden economy so i think that's one. i think two -- i'm somebody who thought biden should not run. i thought there were better democratic alternatives i'd like

to see out of the party. number two, he doesn't present in a persuasive way. people have real doubts about his capacity to run, to do a second term. picking up on jonathan's point. there is a sense that trump is strong and strength is something people like. maria: yeah. >> and when biden -- whether you like trump or not, they think he's a strong person and to jonathan's point, when people see biden essentially trying to buy votes with a student loan forgiveness, they see that as a sign of pandering. they don't like it. when people see biden after one of the worst anti-semetic outbreaks on college campuses which is reminiscent of nazi germany in 1938, biden does the both sides part. he says i don't like anti-semitism but i sympathize with protesters. that's a sign of weakness. it's a sign that he has lost the plot on what's going on with the anti-semitism in the united states. it's a sign that there's a lack

of moral clarity in the democratic party not just on these protests but on the middle east generally and people that as a sign of weakness. it's reminisce. -- reminiscent of jimmy carter.n roosevelt. he has to be careful on the domestic cultural issues front and what's going on in the mideast, the college campuses, anti-semetic protests, jews are being spit on, all these things. and president biden comes out and does the both sides part. people see that as a sign of weakness, a lack of leadership, when he should be standing up and explaining what is at stake with what's going on on the campuses and what's at stake with our fight in the mideast which is a fight for western civilization against a modern dana sigh germany -- modern dana day nazi germany.

maria: that issue divided democrats and had some democrats thinking he's got to go and it's not just that, that he lost, they're also thinking he's losing some serious mental capacity. here's the sound bite i was referring to earlier. watch this. >> i see an economy that grows from bottom up where wealthy pay their fair share so we can have child care, paid leave and reduce the federal deficit and increase economic growth. folks, imagine what we can do next. four more years. pause. >> four more years. maria: four more years. pause. john than, obviously he wasn't supposed to read the pause in the teleprompter. >> well, i mean, it's possible, maria, that he was empathizing with the voters outside of the courthouse in manhattan this

morning. they were chanting four more years for donald trump. i don't know what he was referring to, to be honest. i think most americans out there understand that president biden is cognitively just not what he used to be and i actually think this is an issue that goes far beyond party politics. i think anybody out there who is watching and listening to this man speak should understand he cannot be president of the united states anymore. there's far too much going on, on the brink of a third world war. we're already at a conflict in the middle east. it puts americans at risk. puts his party at risk, puts our party at risk, puts the whole nation at risk. i think the responsible thing is for him to cep down. he's not -- step down. he's not going to do that. maria: i think the border issue is going to come back and bite democrats because this is another issue where most people in the middle, most people who are independent thinkers are recognizing that this is a serious security threat.

we don't know the some of these people coming in. we don't know what their intentions are. and they want clearly the democrats or the administration wants an open border. if they didn't, they would have done something about it. >> yes. the president has the ability without legislation to close the bore today. 70 to 80% of the public disapprove of his immigration policies. this is again another insans where you want to see the president stand up to the far left in the party and say your positions on the border are wrong, i'm going to do the common sense position which is where most american voters are. if he would stand up and give an address on what's going on in iran and israel and talk about the importance of israel vanquishing hamas and how that's critical to the west, a churchill like you address in the oval office, that's the kind of moral claire i the at this and leadership -- clarity and leadership we want to spy in a president, he doesn't take that and there's a pandering to the hard left which is leading this

party to no place good which is why the numbers are not good right now. maria: absolutely. then you've got aoc complaining that the police are involved in the protests, that they had to call the police because it got so violent. she doesn't want any police there. julian -- >> good luck with that. maria: great conversation. we appreciate your time this morning. thank you. >> thanks, maria. maria: julian epstein, jonathan madison. stay with us. we'll be right back. (luke) this will be a gold mine of local intel. (marci) so, tell us about this corn festival. (stylist) oooh you got your corn pudding... (marci) so...is it safe around here? (stylist) sometimes. [luke gasping] (marci) no eyebrows? (luke) think of how light it'll feel in the summer. we gotta run. eleven thousand more neighborhoods to go! (vo) ding dong! homes-dot-com.

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maria: welcome back. today the supreme court will determine whether former president trump has ime moonty e in the special counsel jack smith's election interference if case. fox news' david spunt is outside the supreme court right now with more. david. >> reporter: maria, good morning. whether the justices like it or not, they will enter the nerve center of the 2024 presidential election. arguments begin promptly at 10:00 this morning, expected to go several hours. former president donald trump, he says the charges levied against him for allegedly trying to overturn the 2020 presidential election should not force him to be in a courtroom. he says that he should have absolute immunity here. he says that these allegations surrounded a time while he was still president. he also a says future presidents would be affected by with what the supreme court decides, telling fox news this, this

morning: >> we have a big case today. the supreme court on presidential immunity. a president has to have immunity. if you don't have 'em. moonty, you just have a ceremonial president. >> reporter: special counsel jack smith who charged trump insists that the. former president's behavior continued after he left office of and should be prosecuted, full stop. the case was supposed to go to trial in early march, it was delayed when the supreme court agreed to hear the case. the justices typically like to shy away from politics, they cannot escape it in this case. if they say trump is not immune opinion, the engines will start moving. it will take a couple of months to at least start a trial that's been on hold for several months. if the justices rule that donald trump is immune, we may not see a case in washington, d.c. at all. again, we will hear from the if justices expected to go several hours, a final decision's supposed to come down, maria, at the latest by the end of june but, of course, could be earlier. maria: so we won't know today,

david. we'll get the news potentially next month. >> reporter: exactly, yeah. we're not going to know today. the earliest we could hear is potentially a few weeks, a although it's a complicated issues, it's deep. there's a lot of issues dealing with presidential immunity, a -- immunity, so the end of the supreme court term is the end of june, and that's when hay typically decide big cases. i would say probably not anymore in the next few weeks. it's going to take a while, maria. maria: david, thanks very much. david spunt at the supreme court this morning. stay with us, we'll be righte go back. ♪ ♪ in. eight months pregnant.. that's a different story. finish finish finish. and so did our business needs. the chase ink card made it easy. when you go for something big like this, your kids see that. and they believe they can do the same. earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase

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