tree small equities for japan. you like india, i-shares, msc-iind, india. what is the positive on that? we have 15 seconds on that. we're coming up to the bell? >> both are benefiting from lowest investment in china in 30 years. capital is flowing into japan. capital is flowing into india. india has high demand for their stocks where a lot of countries around the world are in recession. india is expected to grow 7% this year, earnings up 18%. good fundamental story in india as well. liz: david, i like the small cap japan idea. [closing bell rings] that you're not jumping late onto the big train. david kudsi law, always thanks. hold the confetti. dow, s&p, no new all-time highs. that's different. we'll see you tomorrow. ♪. larry: hello, folks, welcome to

"kudlow," i'm larry kudlow. the biden administration properly getting slammed with the outrageous cascade of progressive failures as guy benson calls it, regarding the illegal migrant status of the suspected killer, tragic story of the 22-year-old georgia nursing student. we will talk to vivek ramaswamy about this in just a few moments. we've also got byron donalds on deck. the strange case of fani willis and her lover with 2000 cell phone calls, 2000 text messages up tonight. first the still most awful story. fox news jacqui heinrich at the white house about this illegal immigrant tragedy. jacqui, what can you tell us, thank you? >> larry, since saturday we've been asking the white house on statement about lake ken hope riley's murder allegedly at the hands of a venezuelan national that crossed into the country illegally two years ago. after announcing the president's

plans to visit the border on thursday, the white house just got back to our request over the weaken. we would like to extend the deepest condolences to the laken hope riley. people should be held to the furthest extent of the law if they're guilty. give then is active case we refer you to the i.c.e. republicans plame it squarely on biden border policy and sanctuary states. the suspect was arrested in 2023 in new york but was released before i.c.e. could put a detainer on him according to a spokeswoman. >> the biden democrats open border policy allowed this man to come into our country, give him parole and kill an innocent young woman and you know, here in scottsdale, arizona, there are venezuelan gangs, organized crime, breaking into peoples

houses, using wi-fi and cell phone blockers to get around cameras. these are organized criminals. >> reporter: biden will head to the border on thursday. it will be his second visit since taking office. something the white house repeatedly called a photo-op or a publicity stunt when republican members of congress do it. biden will call for lawmakers to take up the senate bill that passed, excuse meed that failed to pass. the border patrol union which endorsed the border provisions of that bill is slamming the president's visit though, telling fox, biden is going to the border now solely to save himself. border security should never be about politics t should be about the safety and security of this great nation and the american people. the president will not nonany executive actions while in brownsville, texas. that is expected sometime around the state of the union. he previously said he has done all he can by stroke of a pen. now officials are downplaying whatever is coming as lesser

insignificance than what congress could do if they got their act together as they put it, larry. larry: you know, jacqui, just one point on this whole tragic story, you've got two boris trajkovski did is here. one is letting a killer in the first place. everyone reporting that. second one is letting killer out without any bail or detention in new york, new york city. this is one of the alvin bragg stories. i just raised it. i don't know if anybody is talking about that, but that is the second tragedy of this gigantic tragedy, how did that person get released in the first place to go down to georgia so he could murder this poor young woman? >> reporter: well, the i.c.e. spokesperson is saying that they were not able to put a detainer on him because nypd released him before they could. larry: yeah. >> reporter: that is how he got out. new york city is a sanctuary city. new york is a sanctuary state.

that has been a big piece of this conversation as it relates to a lot of these blue cities and lax prosecutors, lax bail laws and, non-cooperation with i.c.e., larry. larry: yes indeed. jacqui heinrich, thank you. i was just venting. we appreciate your report very, very much. >> reporter: thanks. larry: folks for just one moment i want to take time out from the horrible and tragic laken riley story. what my friend guy benson calls the outrageous of cascade of progressive failures and i do want to say, may she rest in peace, may god watch over her and i do wish the family the greatest of all condolences. for purposes of our show, regarding the 2024 election, okay, the election year voting realignment going on, something the liberal media does not

understand or doesn't want to talk about, i want to insert this into our discussion tonight. look, there is a very nifty piece by my good friend super economist larry lindsey and it is taken from the database of the federal election committee, the fcc. it shows contributors to joe biden were heavily skewed towards college professors, professional people, psychologists, social workers, scientists and writers. 93% of college previous professors gave to joe biden. just 7% gave to donald trump. all right, probably know surprise. meanwhile the biggest donors to president trump were farmers, truckers, entrepreneurs, mechanics and construction workers. now the biggest biden corporate donors, employees of google, microsoft, ibm and kaiser permanente, health care company. the biggest trump givers came

from walmart, fedex and ups. now, this is kind of the new america. this is populist versus elites. this is rich versus middle class. now mr. biden got a lot of money from the rich, okay? much more money than donald trump ever got but interestingly among donors giving less than $200, trump beat biden by a very wide margin. so as larry lindsey put it, the economic elites are democrats. the working stiffs are republicans. now my apologies for my good friend larry lindsey, publicizing his newsletter content. i thought it was too good. larry, please don't get cross with me, we larrys have to be together. one reason i'm raising these points, there is so much second-guessing about trump clobbering nikki haley in south carolina over the weekend.

people keep asking can trump win over independents, can trump win over nikki haley voters? i'm sure he will do quite well. mr. trump on issues of middle class, affordable economy, closing the border, restoring law and order, peace through strength abroad, all that leading to realignment, not just the old static polling between republicans, democrats, independents, realignment, because of biden's repeat failures and woke extremeism of but also black americans, is hispanics, asians, and young people who see trump energic disrupt tomorrow after current political system, maybe a corrupt political system that just ain't working. i call it trump tough. i call it draining the swamp. let's not forget mr. trump's

fundamental optimism making america first again, again. so i would just say pollsters and pundits beware. trump realignment is sneaking up on you, all right? that is beyond this tragic story of the young woman in georgia. now, let's bring in one of our favorites, vivek ramaswamy, former presidential candidate and now hot on the campaign trail for mr. trump. vivek, welcome to the show. i want to talk to you, a couple things, vivek. i love to talk issuing with you, not just politics. the first is the double progressive failure not only the invasion of these illegal immigrants, many of whom are kidnappers, killers, terrorists, spies, whatever, also the second part of this awful story is the fact that new york is a sanctuary city and alvin bragg as a soros prosecutor, let this killer go. so he goes back down, comes in

illegally. goes to new york illegally. commits crimes in new york. he is let out of jail in new york. comes down to georgia. then winds up killing this beautiful young woman. i mean this is the worst of the worst. i don't know if this story has bottomed or not, vivek, but this has to change big time. >> look, it's a basic test of common sense, larry. a nation without borders is not a nation. it is not the cruel thing to hold piece people back. that is not compassion. that is actually common sense. that is what we need to revive in this country, is the basic idea that your first act of entering in this country, cannot break the law. if your first act of entering the country is breaking the law, no surprise those people break the law even further when they're already in this nation. that is not racist. that is not xenophobic. i'm the kid of legal immigrants to this country, larry. that is personal to me. countless people are trying to do this the right way. we're rewarding the people doing

it the wrong way. i do think this will be a key issue at the ballot box this november. i'm seeing that traveling this country. i was in michigan last night. i don't care if you're democrat, republican, or independent, this is not what you want to see our nation become. i think that will drive people out to the polls in droves this negative november. that will lead us to success. larry: let me follow up with mr. trump's maga circular that is sent out which is widely quoted, when i'm your president we will immediately seal the border, stop the invasion. here is the other one, vivek, so important, and on day one we will begin the largest deportation operation of illegal criminals in american history. then he goes on to say, may god bless laken riley and her family. our prayers are with you. the deportation side. >> yeah. larry: this harps back to something eisenhower did many, many years ago. i don't know whether you have spoken to president trump about this or not. that would be a tall order, a

worthwhile one for sure, vivek, but a tall order. how do you see that? >> first it starts with common sense, larry. if we had the largest influx of illegal mass migration into our country in american history, then it makes sense by definition we have to have the largest mass deportation in american history as well. there are legal tools already available to the federal government. take 287-g. that is a provision in the law that says the department of homeland security and i.c.e. can deputize local law enforcement to actually serve their warrants. historically the objection was there are only 6,000 i.c.e. agents. there are millions of illegal migrants. 12 million will have crossed under biden's tenure. how can you solve that? there are a million law enforcement standing at the ready. that is one example of existing tools in the legal tool box. we don't really need new laws to do this. what we need is a new president to enforce the laws already on the books. so i think that is what it is going to take, a president with

a spine. yes, new laws can make a difference. there are areas for congress to step up. but this idea of a mass deportation will be inhumane, let's forget about that. start with people entered the country illegally the last two years. use existing laws to do it humanely as possible. if we are a nation on rule of law, we have to be a nation that enforces laws already on the books. i think they will try to paint president trump in some wrong light when he tries to do this. we have to understand this is a moral case for the rule of law itself. the very people the left who would purport to help are the ones being hurt by many of these policies. larry: i think the country will be with him, on this, vivek. for all the horrible tragedy of this you know, deceased young woman from georgia, i think the country would be with him. i wish we could find a way to go after these sanctuary cities. deny them federal fund. i'm not sure, i have not thought

it through but the blood of this woman is on joe biden's hands for his open border policies, the blood of this woman is on the hands of new yorkers. alvin bragg for sure, eric adams, for sure, governor hochul. any sanctuary cities let them come in to be immediately released to commit crimes, sell drugs, kill people. there has to be something we can do here. so far we're taking it. we're not doing anything. somehow there has to be a plan to stop these sanctuary cities and releasing all these illegal immigrant criminals and murder earliers. >> so basic steps, let just go in order here. first not only build the wall, complete the wall. move our own military to our own southern border. stop federal funding. we'll ghetto the sanctuary cities in a second, no more federal funding for central america until each of those countries blockaided their border all the way through the derien pass, migrants are flowing from venezuela to the

southern border of texas. you come to our homeland here. stop every last dime of federal funding for so-called sanctuary cities until they're enforcing the rule of law. larry this is another one where we use existing laws and the constitution as it already exists, to say birthright citizenship does not actually apply to the kids of illegals. the best border policies of all are to eliminate the incentives to be here illegally in the first place. if we end that federal funding to sanctuary cities, we end those other incentives up to including birthright citizenship for the kids of illegals which the first words of 14th amendment do not apply, we'll be on the way to solving the border crisis. we don't need new laws. we need a new president. this makes it the most vital issue in november and i think what will lead us to victory. larry: this brings me to the other point i want to chew on with you, vivek, that is this realignment going on.

everybody is looking at the world, republicans, democrats, independents. will trump get independents, will trump get the haley voters. i raised in my riff to put something else on the table besides the horrible news about this late young woman's death, you know, larry lindsey's article, you probably know larry, the people for trump, farmers, truckers, entrepeneurs, that is you, vivek, entrepreneurs, mechanics and construction workers this is completely different coalition. you can add to that 56 can americans, asian-americans, hispanic-americans too. this is completely different realignment. the wealthy rich are for biden, they're the elites but ordinary working folks, creative people, brand new money, new companies, they're for trump. i don't think the world sees the prism of this election up there this new lens but i say there is a new lens coming, what do you think? >> look i think there is an opportunity for realignment like

we saw with the reagan landslide in 1980 and again had 1984. larry: yeah. >> i think that is a special opportunity we have ahead of us in 2024 we have to make this not just about biden's failures but what do we actually stand for as a republican party. we stand for the rule of law. we stand for the pursuit of excellence. everyone of those entrepreneurs, truckers are entrepreneur too. everyone of those entrepreneurs can achieve the maximum of their own potential with their own hard work, without apologizing for their success. president trump said it well. you know what our vending against will be? success will be our vending against. with that message we bring the people along from inner-city, rural communities, black to white. america first is bigger than just the historical republican party. i do see that opportunity, larry. it will not happen automatically. i think there is a complicated path ahead. i think it is unlikely. personally i don't believe biden will be the nominee. on the other side of traps that have been laid i see an opportunity this year dare i say

it to unite this country. larry: yes. >> donald trump with the ferc first movement has the best potential to do that. i will be helpful any way i can to come accomplish that. larry: vivek, last 30 seconds, that's right, the pundits really underestimate the unifying message of success. trump has been saying this regularly, my best revenge will be success. he will institute new policies. he will drain the swamp. he will break town down the elites milking us for years, with law and order. that is unifying message. that will blow up all the polling models, vivek. you're my favorite entrepreneur, so give me your last entrepreneurial answer. >> what do entrepreneurs say, you get ahead with your own hard work in this country. the sky is the limit what you can achieve, whatever your god given gifts are you can achieve the maximum potential in the united states of america. that was trump's message. it was trump's reality during the first term.

mark my words, larry, the second term will make the first term pale in comparison to the impact it has on this country. that is what i see ahead. i think trump will be actually the guy to reunite this country and revive who we are. i hope to see it on the other side. larry: as my old boss reagan used to say, the best is yet to come. trump says the same thing, you say the same thing, optimism is a winner. vivek, thank you for giving us all this time. we appreciate it. we'll talk soon. >> thank you. larry: you betcha. we have another government shutdown looming. my gosh, another failure in washington, d.c. it will not be such a big deal. i wish republicans followed through passed all 12 appropriation bills. failing that, let's have a 1% budget cut across the board. just a nice 1% budget cut across the board. wouldn't that be something instead of borrowing money or spending other people's money? we have my pal steve moore here to weigh in.

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larry: all right, it's back to school for congress and here with the new curriculum, fox news senior congressional correspondent chad pergram. chad, new semester. >> reporter: larry, good afternoon. so late, so overdue already. congress was mandated to finish its spending bills in september. there is an agreement on a top line figure. however there is no deal on how congress spends the money. so there's a chance of a weekend shutdown. >> well the government shutdown is not ideal but not the worst thing. it would be worse to exacerbate the problem. the only leverage we have when we have one house of one branch is to be willing to say no, to be willing to walk away. >> reporter: conservatives believe green-lighting all spending at current levels for the rest of fiscal year saves money. that prevents new spending. so the right is now pushing a long-term punt until fall.

>> joe biden and chuck schumer want to use the shutdown threat as leverage so they can write the bill. this is why i support a continuing resolution which actually is going to force a 1% cut, $100 billion savings. >> reporter: but the military consume es more than half of all money congress allocates each year. so renewing the old funding is unduly harsh to the pentagon. funding runs out this weekend for energy and water programs, military construction, transportation and housing, plus agriculture. there is little time to avoid a shutdown. >> part of the problem is that the speaker is very inexperienced. he has never served in leadership before, number one. number two, i think he is a afraid to make decisions because he is afraid to lose his job. he saw what happened to his predecessor, kevin mccarthy, and he is afraid any decision he makes will anger one part of his conference or another. >> reporter: we still do not

know when the senate could begin its impeachment trial of alejandro mayorkas. it is doubtful it comes this week. in fact the trial might not start until lawmakers figure out how to fund the government. larry? >> all right, chad pergram, thank you for all of that, we appreciate it. for more on all of this, let's bring in my pal steve moore, committee to unleash prosperity and host of "moore money" on wabc raid quote, hot show. steve moore, couple things, well a shutdown is stupid. they may have to do it this weekend. it is not economically important but it is stupid politically but other thing is, remember all the talk going back 12, 13 months now, we're going to have regular order, we're going to get all the appropriations bill through in republican congress and you know i hate to say it they didn't. they did not do that, steve moore. they just didn't get that done and i am trying to figure out why? >> they just couldn't get the

votes for it. they couldn't come to an agreement and republicans have, let's not forget a two or three seat majority right now out of 435, it is hard to get anything done and remember they don't control the senate, they don't control the white house. so we shouldn't pretend this very tiny republican majority will change the direction of things. this is very much related to your excellent conversation with vivek. you don't want to take the eye off the ball here. the source of almost every problem in washington right now is joe biden. biden is a pathological spender. he wants to spend money on everything. he spent $150 billion on student loan bailouts even though the supreme court says it is unconstitutional. so i don't want to distract people from that focus which is if you want to get budget sanity, if you want to get control of the border, if you want to deal with all these problems it starts with getting donald trump in the white house and joe biden out of the white house. this is why, larry, what i

support something my friend thomas massie of kentucky has come up with, and this is now part of the budget process. if you can't come up with an agreement, what you do you have last year's level of spending, minus 1%. now, you know me, larry, known me for 35 years, i would take a chainsaw to this budget if i could but at least 1% cut is not spending more than last year. i think that right now is the ideal outcome. larry: it will not happen for months, not going to happen until april or may, i call it out, not going to happen until april or may. >> just pass a continuing resolution. larry: but see here is the other part, the continuing resolution, will be in effect on more omnibus spending bills. >> i know. larry: i thought we didn't want to do omnibus spending bills. you get 1000 page bills, 2000 page bills, nobody knows what is in it. it is antithetical to taxpayer interest. >> no, you're right. larry: the 1% cut is a lovely

idea but it is not going to happen. the last two crs ignored it. the next few crs will ignore it. 2 won't happen. it is not going to happen. >> okay, i'm just telling you it is the law of the land. that is what they agreed to in last year's budget deal, if they couldn't come to agreement, cut 1%. you're making a larger point, larry, which is this, we have a completely broken budget process. larry: right. >> the last time we rewrote the bills, the budget process was 1974. if my math is correct, that was 50 years ago, larry. that was written by the liberal watergate congress. the whole intent of that budget process law was to make it easier for congress to spend. you and i agree, give power of impoundment to the president. larry: impoundment. impoundment. impound their tuchuses off,

impound their receiver ends off. that is what you do. leave the legislative bs. just impound, impound. it may not solve every problem. i have to get out of here. >> franklin roosevelt used it more than any other president. larry: we're all for fdr, sometimes. thanks, steve moore. coming up here on "kudlow," the fannie fiasco, 12,000 text messages, 2000 cell phone calls, this all happened before they were supposedly having a romantic relationship with her favorite prosecutor who was not qualified. meanwhile there is now a democratic operative from the white house who is calling the shots. this is a fiasco. we have got rich lowery, alec lace, when "kudlow" returns. impound, impound impound. let's just let president trumpad do it ♪ it's our time ♪

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♪. larry: here we go again the the fani willis fiasco growing worse by the day. 2,000 text messages, 12,000 calls, cell phone calls, and democratic operative calling the shots. my goodness, steve harrigan in hotlanta with the story. this is real soap opera. kind of loving it. >> reporter: it is tough and these defense attorneys are trying to get the cell phone records from nathan wade, the prosecutor, admitted to the court as evidence. the numbers are remarkably high. more than 2000 phone calls, 12,000 text messages. they all come before they say wade was hired and before wade and willis both swore under oath before their relationship even began. it also places nathan wade around willis's condo at least 35 occasions, sometimes arriving at night, leaving in the morning, yet wade testified under oath he never spent the night in this condo. >> the phone records will

reflect that you were making phone calls from the same location as the condo before november 1st of 2021 and it was on multiple occasions the phone records would be wrong? >> the if phone records reflected that, yes, sir,. >> they would be wrong? >> they would be wrong. >> reporter: defense attorneys making the accusation this entire case is being run from the biden white house. they want to know what went on in multiple meetings between nathan wade and white house officials. they're trying to get information what was talked about during those meetings. larry, back to you. larry: any sense when the judge will make a decision on all of this? >> reporter: he has a hearing march 1st. he will hear final arguments t could be sometime after that. larry: terrific. steve harrigan thank you very much from downtown hot lanta. joining me to chew on this one, this is a wonderful story, rich lowery, editor-in-chief of "the national review," alec lace, host of the first class

fatherhood podcast. this guy nathan wade must be very insecure, richard. 2000 cell phone calls. 12,000 text messages? i mean you know, i love love. i mean i love my wife, my saintly wife, but if i ever hit her with 12,000 text messages -- >> not that needy, huh, larry? larry: not that needy. now they're trying to deny everything. do cell phone towers lie? >> they're desperate to say she hired him before there was any relationship, just because he is a good prosecutor and a good lawyer. then this relationship, love happened. larry: love happened. >> in the office but it looks as though, need to learn more but it looks as though the phone records really belie that. the name of the game here, larry, as with all these cases is timing. whether she stays on the case or not, doesn't matter that much. it is whether it can be delayed. they want to do this thing in august, right? a presidential candidate for a major party sit inning a

courtroom in atlanta, in august and september. might supposedly will be sitting in other courtrooms as well this whole thing is show disgraceful, it is un-american. none of this should be happening. he will have to pony up half a billion dollars just in new york to appeal those cases. larry: eighth amendment, raise the eighth amendment, take it all the way up to the supreme court. i don't know if that is possible but he could. alec, you want to know the truth? i don't care if they had a romantic relationship or not to be honest with you. it bothers some judicial types and lawyers. i'm not a lawyer. i do care that they lied. that is the part i care about. that is why she should be disqualified. what seems to be happening all the additional evidence shows that they lied, both of them lied on the stand last week or the week before. that bothers me. >> they lied and they're in denial. they will deny, deny. that is the gameplan here. this adds up to 25, 30, text

messages per day, five or six phone calls per day. that is ridiculous. fani willis made her bed. everybody is sleeping in it. who else is she texting, who else she is texting 12,000 times. we know a a laundry list of people. she mass piles of cash. i know the phone bill, call me on nights and weekends. phone calls weren't free. she must have some monster plan. >> have time. would you be able to do anything else? larry: again i don't care, if he wants to text her all day, 24/7, that's fine, just don't lie about it. i think that is what is going to happen here. i think the judge, the judge is a democrat too. but i don't know i think the noose is coming in. the other thing is a bad story, "breitbart" broke this afternoon, "breitbart" has good reporters, jeff desantis -- >> no relation to the florida governor. larry: no relation to the florida governor.

disantis. not desantis. deputy district attorney, but he has ever -- worked for presidents, governors, senators. he is a campaign war horse. he is the white house person in her operation. i think that's a link. i can't prove it but we know there have been reports that the white house was coaching fani willis and nate thain wade about this. does this dissanities thing. >> we need to learn more. let's say the opposite is the way it is now. if trump convicted of a felony more likely to beat joe biden in november. all these cases would go away. all the them will go away. they are doing it noting even if they don't hurt him in the polls, it is draining resources and time. that is it why this is happening. larry: let's us move on, alec lace, can donald trump win over independents and nikki haley voters in the general election? that seemed to be the hot topic over the weekend.

not that he clobbered her 60-40? >> there there any nikki haley voters. most are democrats. this is trump's party, donald trump's party going forward. larry: but in the general, in the general election how will he do with independents in the general election? >> i think he is going to pick them up. i don't think there are any true nikki believers out there. i think he has no problem scooping up people out there. you have to remember, something, larry, donald trump did not just win the primaries in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, he broke records, in all three. it is dominating performance. get on the trump train, i don't know who these nikki haley are voting for her. larry: one thing, the statistics, the republican turnout in south carolina on saturday, was apparently significantly bigger than the republican turnout in 2016 when you had a real horse race.

>> yeah. larry: with ted cruz and marco rubio and so forth. so there is an intensity thing going on here that i don't think pundits have really picked up correctly. >> yeah. this is the big thing with trump. the turnout, the intensity of his base which no other republican can match. if you're a republican in the bushes you're kind of hurting now, the high propensity voters tend to be democrats in suburbs and other places. but when trump is on the ballot it is a different proposition. he will need to win independents. a lot of polling, general election polling shows him winning independents. 16 he wins independents. wins presidency. 2020, he loses independents and loses. larry: alec, we were talking about earlier about an interesting article by my pal larry lindsey how the republican has changed around the republican party is now made up of not the elites, well to do, truckers, farmers,

entrepreneurs, mechanics workers. my production team checked out these farmers entrepreneur, mechanics and construction workers. there is black americans, hispanic-americans, asian-americans, probably add to that younger people that don't get too much credit. there is republican realignment, the republicans that check those boxes may not tell us anything we need to know about the outcome of this general election. >> the teamsters made a large donation to the rnc. that is historic that hadn't happened. i worked for railroad as mechanic 24 years i'm seeing it. all the boxes you mentioned with the different backgrounds, races, creeds, exist in a big melting pot on the railroad. the shift is monumental this year we're going trump this way. no matter what you're making and bringing home, it doesn't make

it if you're getting a raise but price of everything is skyrocketing. they want a change. they're not better offer now than they were four years ago. that will bring them out to vote for trump. larry: is it true you were cited at mcdonald's over the weekend. your cash wad was blown. >> mcdonald's drive through, two big macs, milkshakes, $17. first time in my life i felt going to mcdonald's, ripped off. the price of food is higher, everyone feels it. it means your paycheck is worth less than it used to be. people won't forget that. larry: affordability crisis. hold that for your next column. rich lowery, alec lace. byron donalds will talk to me about life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, the everywhere you turn, the breakdown of the progressive model. we'll be right back.

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guy benson, he was talking about the horrible, horrible story about the young woman, the late young woman who was killed in georgia, that the guy came in from venezuela illegally. then he commits a crime in new york, they release him because of these progressive judges and george soros district attorneys. there is no law and order because of the progressives. we have a woke culture because of the progressives. we spend and borrowed too much, we have inflation. rich lowery was talking about 17-dollar bill for mcdonald's hamburger and milkshake. i'm a very simple person, i think this country is going to vote against progressive policies across the board? >> i agree with you, larry, progressives wanting control, they want to institute their policy agenda for decades. through joe biden, i will also add, starting with barack obama, but with joe biden they have

been able to accomplish a good portion of it, it sucks. it's terrible, larry. immigration policy is the one everyone can see. the tragedy that happened in georgia but also the tragedy that's happening all over the country. we've had now 200,000 people die from fentanyl overdoses because of joe biden's progressive policies. there are young girls who were sold into sex slavery every single day by the drug cartels because of joe biden's reckless policies and these progressive policies. you have situations where there are migrants who died in the back of tractor-trailers down in texas because of these terrible progressive policies. they do not work. they just breed destruction. they breed death. and they overwhelm cities. every major city including new york is now overrun and overwhelmed. you know, larry, these policies what does it mean in the life of a young child growing up in the inner-city? the progressives lock them out of a classroom for a year or two years because of covid-19,

ignoring the realities that kids are far less susceptible to the worst elements of covid-19. they kept them out after classroom. those kids fell behind. now when they're back in the classroom finally, joe biden and the radical democrats put migrants in these classrooms so the kids fall further behind? month of this stuff works. we just talked about one policy, larry. we have not gotten to the rest of them. larry: of course, whether you call them liberal or progressive or ultimate liberal or radical, this vast spending and borrowing which caused inflation, which made the economy unaffordable for typical working families and for low income families, frankly for black american and hispanic and asian families, you can't live here. there is no law and order. the education system has deteriorated. the culture has been completely impeached and destroyed. people don't even teach history anymore. the border, every day, every day is another border story. people are getting killed left and right, either from murderers

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