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personal safety. master sergeant felipe will be retiring after standing watch for 20 years. my stepson is what nicaragua. he said he wanted to ear citizenship and he did that and a lot more. semper fi to all our veterans. i know elizabeth mcdonald is a huge fan. liz: you have a beautiful family. thank you, david for that show. you did a terrific job. details are coming in on the spending cuts and the debt ceiling deal. the gop is fighting hard against
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white house hysteria scaring voters. this is about capping spending at an historically high pandemic levels. the pandemic is over. the far left democrats still want inflationary war-time spending without the war. we have another whittle blower testifying about the investigation of hunter biden. edward lawrence is live at the white house. reporter: we have more of a hard day. june 5 is when the treasury secretary says the u.s. will meet that debt ceiling. the president is thought talking about the debt ceiling issue today. but we have not heard much from
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him on the topic this week. americans have heard enough, seen enough. fox news polling shows most blame president biden's policies the last two years. 48% say his policies are hurting families. 90% of independents feel that way. that's the group the president with need for reelection. the house speaker addressed the fundamental problem. >> the democrats when they took over. they were spending so much, that now we are spending more than we ever have, and they want to continue that path. we cannot at the end of the day have to change trajectory. >> innation is rising, putting pressure on the administration
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and the federal reserve. the press second tear question defending the president going to camp david and then delaware for the weekend. on the debt ceiling, the president is going to camp david this weekend then going to delaware. if the situation is so dire, why is the president. >> i already answered that question. do you have another one? reporter: still hasn't figured out she is making the case he can be a president from anywhere. now we have a hard date, june 5. the house majority leaders will hold a whip call. it's to set up the process going forward if they have a deal how they will whip the conference. liz: joining us now, liz peek,
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steve forbes, forbes media chairman. a cnn poll. 66% say a second biden term would be a disaster, a setback for the u.s. now it's got far left being hysterical about what has been talked about. keeping spending at 2022-2023 levels. that's at record historic highs. but this is domestic terrorism hostage taking? what is going on with the white house and far left squad? >> they are actually describing themselves. there has been a 40% increase and no justification for it. they want more than more and more.
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you see it on the spending and regulatory side. they keep pushing for higher taxes. we know what they want to do to air-conditioners and gas stoves. they are against anything that makes life more pleasant. more people are on to it and i think that's why the biden administration is finally sitting down to negotiate a deal with kevin mccarthy. liz: you can see biden mitting new lows in the cnn poll. >> i called on the president to invoke the 14th amendment and mint a coin and not negotiate with hostage takers. we don't negotiate with terrorists globally. why are we going to negotiate with the terrorists in the republican party. >> the republicans continue to
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govern in a way that is clueless, and godless. faith without works is dead. >> this always defaulty crisis that is manufactured maga madness. >> this is horrible news. while the president leads his democratic competitors, 66% of the public says a biden victory would be a setback or disaster for the united states. liz: what do you think of all that, liz? >> i think it could get worse. the federal reserve will responds to above expected inflation data and continue to hike rates during the summer which will tip us into a recession. we have the president basically not doing his job. i give the american voter a lot
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of credit. the polls show they know what's going on. they know that spending is way above historical norms. we have a spending problem, not a revenue problem, and the american people know it. they snow joe biden's economic policies brought us to this sorry point and it could get worse. liz: things unraveled so rapidly under this president and the polls show that. but he seems to be carrying out a rose garden strategy. we have yet to see him travel to host a campaign event. biden is negative 22%. and rfk jr. is coming on strong here. numerous polls show this is the worst presidency in modern history since the sighsen hour era. >> that's right.
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people sense the economy is getting worse. i think the economic theologians will conclude this year that we are having a full-blown economic recession. but people know things are not going well. they sight with crazy regulations, unrestricted spending and a presidency in a toxic bubl. what world is he living in when he says happy days are here again and people see what the real world is. liz: happy memorial day weekend to you. irs whistleblower gary shapley testified behind closed doors with the ways and means committee. he said irs officials slow walked the investigation into hunter biden to protect the president. >> just got a statement want to
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read from gary shapley's team. the whistleblower testified for six hours to democrat and republican staff members on the house ways and means committee, both republicans and democrats had questions for him and special agent shapley answered all their questions. each side had equal time. he calls this a high profile investigation. he won't say who the subject is of the investigation but we know the subject is hunter biden via multiple sources. this is a hunter biden tax probe that's bindway since 2018. shapley has been on it since 2020. he was taken off the job when he spinning with slow walking the investigation. since then he was taken off the investigation. he's still a special the with the irs. but he says the doj is
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responsible for the way the investigation was handled. >> it was my red line meeting. it just got to that point where that switch was turned on, and i couldn't silence my conscience anymore. >> jim jordan wrote, the department alleged efforts to remove an irs whistleblower from an ongoing investigation could be a retaliatory effort forbidden by u.s. law. of course there is a second whistleblower who alerted his superiors last week though this identity is unknown. liz: thank you so much for joining us. congcongresswoman from hughes ws
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and means. what are you hearing about the whistleblower's testimony? >> any kinds of testimony x have shows the federal government, especially the doj or irs are being used to weaponized and politicized against political targets is a disphrase. we said from day one from the ways and means committee that we are interested in getting any information people have. we opened up a portal. if you are a federal government employee and you know of waste or abuse, contact us waysandmeansdothehouse.gov. this is about abuse. we have more than one. there are multiple whistleblowers who contacted us. we are investigating each and
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every one of them. i can confirm that we did have one of those whistleblowers in committee today that we are meeting with specific members of the economy ian their attorneys. we are investigating. but we are not an adam schiff committee where we are throwing out baseless allegations. we are investigating and as soon as we have information we'll let the public know. liz: hunter biden's case has been out there for five years. he's been doing overseas deals that are pretty nefarious. if it was so straightforward and above board, they were buried in shell offshore companies where grandchildren were getting payment. then they demanded the irs suspend a task force probing hunter biden.
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have you ever seen anything like this? >> with the irs we have seen this again and again during the clinton administration it got so bad there were hering. a commission was put together to focus on targeted irs audits on people the clinton administration didn't like. you saw the closing down of the tea party movement where the irs refused to let people incorporate as a non-profit. this at a time when the biden administration and the entire democratic party says these people with no reforms, let's give them $80 billion. with this track record there ought to be reform first before
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you have think about increasing their money. liz: irs officials know they get their paycheck from senate finance. they hear dog whistles coming out of the white house and they follow it. that's what i heard from irs agents. more whistle blowers, irs whistle imloers are going to come forward, them they say there is a document that exists with alleged briar are you concerning president biden. >> i could not agree more with mr. norquist. look at what they did to a journalist who had the guts to write a story about the truth.
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matt taibbi, they are going to his house, even though they know he didn't owe anything to the irs. my colleagues are trying to get 87,000 more irs agents hired. i asked him about this question of the history going all the way back when he was with the obama administration. he basically denied it. we asked him what are you putting in place. all he said was we can't discuss it. liz: we do not work for them, they work for us, grover. we see this behavior coming out of what's going on in d.c. a lot of trump voters feel president trump was railroaded. grover, the other thing is, james comer just revealed in the timeline about what happened
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with this fbi document, the 1023 that allegedly shows vice president biden involved in bribery. thofficials in ukraine in 2020 said they were offered $5 million in bribes to end the probe into the founder of the energy company burisma. the ukrainian official said there was no connection to hunter biden and joe biden. they repeatedly said that. but this is the largest cash bribe ever seized in ukraine. the american people desire of to know before 2024 what this is all about. >> that's one of the reasons this administration and the irs has gone after the press. matt taibbi the reporter going through how the fbi was getting
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twitter to censor people before elon musk. on christmas eve is when they opened the investigation against this reporter, saturday night, christmas eve when nobody else was there. what in the world was that about? they wanted to know if he had a gun permit? a 4-year-old argument might be something, they said they sent him leafs but couldn't produce them. liz: the polls show the voters don't like what's going on. 7 out of 10, 6 out of 10, man knot and quinnipiac. we'll have you both on. happy memorial day weekend. thanks for joining us. we had a big fight break out on the house between chip roy and ocasio-cortez. we have chuck schumer, he
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botches it and tries to slam the supreme court as maga. special counsel john durham is set to testify on his scathing report on how officials botched russia. polls show consistently it's one of the worst presidencies in modern history. we have "washington examiner's" byron york on "the evening edit" coming up. >> i think the road to socialism goes through a divided republican party.
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desantis. >> he's moving to the left attacking me. he added almost $8 trillion in debt in just four years as president. i think it attacks he's doing honestly show i was right on those issues. >> when the ron desanctimonious facts come out you will see he's better than democrat governors but average with republican governors. he has the third most dates in states having to do with the china virus. >> when he turned the country over to fauci in march of 2020, that destroyed millions of people's lives. in florida we stood up, cut across the grain, took incoming fire from media, the left, even a lot of republicans.
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liz: what do you think, matt? >> the race has heated. you, i would say the race really started this week with desantis' announcement last week. i would agree with tim scott. democrats are counting on republicans beating up on each other. so i haven't heard governor desantis pick too much on president trump until now. but president trump has been going after desantis' poll numbers. liz: critics will say the attack about crazy andrew cuomo.
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cuomo's administration is accused of covering up nursing home deaths. senator tim scott is saying i think the road to socialism runs through a divided gop party. everything we say about each other the democrats will weaponize, no matter who the nominee is. >> i agree. i think what any candidate should be doing at this point is talk about what they are going to be doing as president in 2025. critiquing the failures of the last several years under president biden. the covid attack by president trump, he was president then so it's an attack on himself as well. inflation, the immigration crisis and the economy your guest steve forbes was talking about getting worse, not better.
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liz: president biden inherited a powerful growing economy from trump. it was moving at 4%, 6% growth. he was shutting down isis. he was going after russia and the middle east with u.s. energy independence. and in two years all that has become unraveled, matt. >> i think republican primary voters want to hear how republican candidates will be different than joe biden. as tim scott rightly said, promoting our issues and promoting how hour party is better than their party and not attacking each other. at the end of the day every republican governor is better than any democratic voter. liz: we are going to break down
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this over the top attack on the supreme court. democrat senator chuck schumer tries to slam the supreme court at maga. but after justices joined in a unanimous vote against a new epa rule. they are all maga, too? a fight on the house floor. chip roy directly refuting far-left congress woman alexandria ocasio-cortez about government overreach. >> this was no accident. this was intentional viewpoint-based censorship. i fear it's what we'll see all over again this election cycle like we did in the last one.
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"washington examiner" columnist, byron york. let's get to the fight between chip roy and ocasio-cortez. they are debating government overreach. >> they are accusing democrats of saying they spend too much. when is the last time someone said the government does too much for them. their social security check was too high. that teachers are paid too much. >> i will say it. we have a government weaponized against the american people under mining our liberties and they want more of it. my colleagues on the other side of the aisle want more government, more tax, more spending, more bureaucrats knock on your door. >> i think representative
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ocasio-cortez's logic is interesting. each american gets to decide the size of their own benefits. that's just not the issue. what's going on in this fight is extraordinary in the sense that republicans want to cut total spending to 2022 levels. it's 2023 right now. this is not like they are turning the clock back 50 years. spending was already sky high in 2022. yet this is a huge fight. liz: 31 trillion in debt. under the obama white house the debt to gdp ratio was 80%. now it's 130%.
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biden shutting down the keystone pipeline, 87,000 new irs agents and workers. the far left can't clawback tens of trillions in unused pandemic spending? >> everybody knew at the time when the covid relief bills was passed that i was more money than we needed. now the question is can we get some of it back? we found out that the actual deadline on this is june 5. my guess is washington is going to take a long weekend and this fight is not going to be solved until several days from now. liz: we have so much pandemic fraud. a new york businessman pleaded guilty to fraudulently getting
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pandemic aid. and he went to buy a home in nantucket. six out of 10, seven out of 10, say the u.s. is heading in the wrong direction. you see that. so then you see vivek ramaswamy linkedin shuts down ramaswamy over opinions he expressed or climate change and economic policies. >> the whole apparatus on the left seems devoted to shutting down even the mildest of challenges. inflation, it's clear government overspending has contributed to inflation in the last couple years. now we have new news that inflation is just not gone. we'll probably see the mid do
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more and spending more and more is not going to help. one last thing on the fight on capitol hill. the divisions among republicans may start becoming more clear in the next few days. the extraordinary thing republicans did early on is they passed a bill. republicans and democrats had been counting on republicans not getting together. but with their small majority they got together and passed a bill. but is the final bill going to look like that deal? liz: a come woman from house oversight is demanding a $16 million fine be levied on adam schiff for misleading the
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liz: the supreme court again ruled against the epa, striking down an e:pa rule that would have given more power for their control over water and wetlands. >> cons are celebrating this ruling saying it removes burdensome regulations on farmers and land owners and reins in the joe reach by the biden administration. chuck schumer said, this maga supreme court is continuing to erode our country's environmental laws. make no mistake, this will mean more polluted water and more destruction of wetlands. house speaker mccarthy is
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firing back. >> the 9-0 decision in the supreme court schumer said is maga extreme to the democrats here today. they are out of step with the american public. they are out of step with their own party. >> our latest fox news polling shows climate change not even in the top 10 of issues for voters. it falls well below inflation, and crime on the list of voter concerns. the e:pa continues to try to push the biden administration's agenda and the supreme court keeps striking those rules down. the supreme court limited the epa from limiting greenhouse gas emissions. this year the epa has now proposals that would regulate plants and gas powered vehicles. it's pushing forward with that
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agenda even though those rules or proposals could face legal challenges as well. >> thank you so much, grady. we welcome back to the show senator markwayne mullin. what do you make of senator chuck schumer.. why is it politicizing everything? >> if you don't agree with this woke socialist dem that movement in washington, d.c., you are maga. it stands for you are anti-environment, you are racist, and you stand against growth because you don't believe in green energy. the fact is they can't argue on basis. the 1972 pollution environmental
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act, the clean water act, what it says was navigable bodies of water when it was talking about the clean water act. you need to be able to put a boat tonight and ga -- and navie it. it was never meant to go after streams and ponds and ditches which is what the obama epa did. biden rolled it back and we took it to the supreme court. a 9-0 decision and chuck schumer is going to say it's a maga? just admit you got it wrong and move forward. liz: polls show americans don't like when politicians try to undercut u.s. institutions like the supreme court.
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recall when he stood up and said of the supreme court, threatening the justices over abortion, and justice brett kavanaugh was later stalked by an armed assassin. >> when you start looking at this, you see anger in the movement of the left. they get frustrated when they don't agree with them and they will come after you any way they can. they will even destroy their own which is what chuck schumer is doing here. it's obvious what they are moving towards. they are moving towards socialism. that means government can take over for everything. they want government to be responsible for every aspect of our lives which is what our founding fathers never wanted it to be. when you start talking about executive orders coming out of president biden or president
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trump's administration. we can say the courts finally got something wrong and they agreed on it. liz: senator schumer also attacked the supreme court after it unanimously ruled in favor of a 94-year-old grandmother. she lost her home on $2,300 in back taxes then a county in minnesota slapped her with $13,000 in interest and they took her condo and sold it at a $25,000 profit. the supreme court overturned multiple lower cut justices saying it's okay for the government to do this. >> one thing that we don't get enough credit for for the court we have right now is president trump. he changed the face our court.
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he brought a little bit of common sense to our court. and i like to see the way it's moving right now. what's going to happen now is chuck schumer is probably going to talk about expanding the court so they can put their left-leaning political judges on the bench. but the court made two good decisions here. there is plenty of times i disagree with them. in the last two years they have been getting a lot of decisions right. we have congresswoman luna coming up. she is seeking a $16 million fine against congressman adam schiff for misleading america on the trump-russia probe. john durham is going to testify on his scathing report on how the government botched that.
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liz: congresswoman, it's good to see you. you were seek a $16 million fine or adam schiff against russia. why? >> it hasn't been done before in the history of congress. but we have the ability to sanction our own. and levy fines. i filed a privileged motion meaning i will bring this to the house floor to sanction him and pay half of the cost of the russia collusion investigation. he was fundraising off of it. he was using his position as the head of the house intelligence committee saying he was privy to information the american people didn't have. liz: you said he kept going to
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the media. we have seen the media coverage. he was claiming he saw proof of collusion that basically former president trump were colluding with russia. the mueller report never found that. >> ultimately as part of holding honor and restoring what happened to the house of representatives, people cannot do this. he used his position. he violated trust among the american people. we'll be bringing this vote to the house floor. we only need a simple majority. liz: special counsel john durham is set to testify wednesday, june 21. what would you -- if you were to question him, what would you ask? >> i would ask him to reiterate what he put in the reports and ask him how damaging
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representative schiff was to pushing massive disinformation and the longterm impacts it had from a national security perspective. the american people really trusted schiff. half of the country believed it was true. if we look at what's happened in a foreign relations capacity. i what argue it's potentially sedition. we have to take this seriously. we'll be pushing for that vote before durham testifies on the 20th. liz: do you see any other kinds of probe like this? >> schiff in doing what he did, being a ranking member on that committee, he caused a lot of damage. if it were myself doing it, if there was any other republican who has done that, everyone knows it would be a different
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standard of justice. we don't have the doj or the fbi. so it's up to the republican conference to restore order in the house of representatives. liz: special counsel durham recommended a commission be created they can't do it, that's what many former agents told us, final word. >> i think it's unfortunately very true and as you know it's with the administration who the endpoint control the investigation and who has shown justice or not this case. i think were out of position in our country that we are not as bad as other third world countries but as a member of the house were country, we don't do the thing who's going to do it, if not now when, this is my effort to not just represent
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voice concerns of my representatives but to fight for the country. congresswoman thank you for joining us. we will be back on tuesday with president trump former senior kellyanne conway and kelly mcinerney and much, much more, have a happy memorial day weekend i'm initial you of my entrepôt to my grandfather he died from obligations of being hit with mustard gas my mother was one year old she did never knew him we women take our veterans for fighting for america. we hope you have a happy memorial day we can now time for my buddies good to see you dig in inchon. >> i love that. ♪ ♪ ♪

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